Re: Stupid Adobe Question

[Bruce Walker]

Bill queried:
>
> My stupid question is this: Are the versions of Photoshop and Lightroom
> in the 10 dollar offer the same ones in the 31 dollar offer?

The software is completely the same. The features and frequency of
updates are also the same.

I subscribe to the ten buck option because (a) I'm cheap, and (b) I
don't need any off-site space. Most of the other odds and ends in the
"Photoshop" plan is in the $10 one too, like Portfolio (I don't use
it), and Fonts (I should be using it).

The Creative Cloud application controls what is installed or not, and
lets you downgrade to prior versions if something fucks up. (I am
currently running one Ps version behind because they broke some
crucial plugins with the latest.)

Once I got over my snit with the subscription concept, I'm very happy
with the CC package. Recent features in Ps and Lr are the bees knees
and save me huge amounts of work, especially things like cloning out
random distracting objects. I'm also really digging LUTs for colour
grading in both Lr and Ps. (You can make a fancy LUT in Ps then import
it into Lr and avoid sending shots out to Ps purely to tone them if
you have a batch to do. It's a bit involved, but worth the effort in
many cases.)

HTH, Bill.

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Re: PESO - Cut Flowers

[Bruce Walker]

I really love the light and the delicate colours in this, Bulent.

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 6:14 AM Bulent Celasun  wrote:
>
> A still life under natural light. Was not planned.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/49511680468/in/dateposted-public/lightbox/
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> (For the gadget conscious, I used Pentax K3 with DA 50mm f/1.8 at f/3,5)
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Re: PESO x 2 - two bests

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Thank you, Ann!

A bit Weston, although he tended to stick with plainer backgrounds as
far as I've seen so far. I really had other folks, like Arnold Newman,
in mind while composing it.

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:50 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:
>
> virually (no oun) safe for work, no?
> I like both - though might like the first better in just black and white
> - pink is always kinda corny.
>
> as to the second  - Edward Weston homage no doubt :-)
>
> ann
>
> On 2/6/2020 12:58 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> > On 5/2/20, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >> Two shots that I consider to be personal bests. The first is from 2
> >> weeks ago and the second is from the middle of December, 2019.
> >>
> >> might as well jump
> >> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Il3.o3EjAXlU
> >>
> >> nude study with Phylactere
> >> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I9Ve8hGlONT0
> > Superb work as always.
> >
> > I tolerate jump.
> >
> > I love the nude study.
> >
> > Sublime!
> >
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Re: PESO x 2 - two bests

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Thank you very much, Bulent, for this appreciation and critique!

An interesting coincidence to me that you feel fragility in the figure
in nude study. She was 3 or 4 months pregnant when we shot, and
beginning to show.

I was very much aiming for a painterly look in that too. I arranged
all the background elements, and chose a high ISO and wide-open
aperture for softness.

BTW, I failed to mention that I did all post-processing in Lightroom.
Mosty minor slider tweaks.


Bulent wrote:
>
> Bruce,
> I liked both for different reasons.
> The first is an elegant, light, high key image which requires far too
> much knowledge to shoot this good.
> The viewer has to catch the "flying" figure before she leaves the frame...
> Ethereal is the word that comes to my mind.
> The second, which appeals to me more, is like a painting. Can be oil
> or even watercolor.
> The composition is that of a perfect combination of static/rigid
> elements (rectangles) and beautifully dynamic, curving figure.
> I can imagine the painter looking at this one finally and saying, "done!".
> The figure is certainly not flying but is not heavy either. The
> dominant feeling is, to me, fragility.
> Thank you very much for producing these and sharing them with us.
> Bulent
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> Bruce Walker , 6 Şub 2020 Per, 13:30 tarihinde
> şunu yazdı:
> >
> > Thank you very much, Doug.
> >
> > > You already know I love that shot of Phylactere, and the other one, of
> > > Olivia, is a stunner.
> > > Sent  from my phone, which I’m staring at instead of doing actual work.
> > > > On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Bruce Walker 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Two shots that I consider to be personal bests. The first is from 2
> > > > weeks ago and the second is from the middle of December, 2019.
> > > >
> > > > might as well jump
> > > > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Il3.o3EjAXlU
> > > >
> > > > nude study with Phylactere
> > > > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I9Ve8hGlONT0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Both shot with the 645Z and the 55mm f:2.8 SDM lens. Each was lit by a
> > > > single light source.
> > > >
> > > > The first was lit by an 8 inch hard silver reflector aimed though a
> > > > 3/4-stop 8x8 foot scrim, above-right.
> > > > 55mm/2.8 at f/8, 1/125th sec, ISO 100; handheld.
> > > >
> > > > The second was lit by ambient window light, left.
> > > > 55mm/2.8 at f/2.8, 1/30th sec, ISO 1600; handheld.
> > > >
> > > > Model 1 is Olivia Preston, Playboy Cybergirl of the Year 2018.
> > > > Model 2 is Phylactere Rayna, a fine arts lecturer at the University of
> > > > Montreal, model, yoga instructor, dancer, photographer.
> > > >
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Re: PESO x 2 - two bests

[Bruce Walker]

Much appreciated, Steve.

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 12:59 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>
> On 5/2/20, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Two shots that I consider to be personal bests. The first is from 2
> >weeks ago and the second is from the middle of December, 2019.
> >
> >might as well jump
> >https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Il3.o3EjAXlU
> >
> >nude study with Phylactere
> >https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I9Ve8hGlONT0
>
> Superb work as always.
>
> I tolerate jump.
>
> I love the nude study.
>
> Sublime!
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Re: PESO x 2 - two bests

[Bruce Walker]

Still working on my captions! ;-)

Thank you, John.

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 11:46 AM John  wrote:
>
> Of course I looked at the photos before reading at the rest of the post ...
>
> Sort of expected a nude sky-diver & a nude with a large strategically located
> plant of some sort (not knowing what a "Phylactere" might be).
>
> The first one is definitely the best I've ever seen you post.
>
> On 2/5/2020 20:11:27, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > Two shots that I consider to be personal bests. The first is from 2
> > weeks ago and the second is from the middle of December, 2019.
> >
> > might as well jump
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Il3.o3EjAXlU
> >
> > nude study with Phylactere
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I9Ve8hGlONT0
> >
> >
> > Both shot with the 645Z and the 55mm f:2.8 SDM lens. Each was lit by a
> > single light source.
> >
> > The first was lit by an 8 inch hard silver reflector aimed though a
> > 3/4-stop 8x8 foot scrim, above-right.
> > 55mm/2.8 at f/8, 1/125th sec, ISO 100; handheld.
> >
> > The second was lit by ambient window light, left.
> > 55mm/2.8 at f/2.8, 1/30th sec, ISO 1600; handheld.
> >
> > Model 1 is Olivia Preston, Playboy Cybergirl of the Year 2018.
> > Model 2 is Phylactere Rayna, a fine arts lecturer at the University of
> > Montreal, model, yoga instructor, dancer, photographer.
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
>
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Re: PESO x 2 - two bests

[Bruce Walker]

Dan, I think that Photoshelter just doesn't like you. :-)

Try these links to my Instagram.  "jump" is lightly censored to
appease the Zuckerprudes.

jump
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8E2gXrhxQ1/

nude study
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6PARodB8He/


> for some reason, I can see only the thumbnails.
>
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>*
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:12 PM Bruce Walker  wrote:
> > Two shots that I consider to be personal bests. The first is from 2
> > weeks ago and the second is from the middle of December, 2019.
> >
> > might as well jump
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Il3.o3EjAXlU
> >
> > nude study with Phylactere
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I9Ve8hGlONT0
> >
> >
> > Both shot with the 645Z and the 55mm f:2.8 SDM lens. Each was lit by a
> > single light source.
> >
> > The first was lit by an 8 inch hard silver reflector aimed though a
> > 3/4-stop 8x8 foot scrim, above-right.
> > 55mm/2.8 at f/8, 1/125th sec, ISO 100; handheld.
> >
> > The second was lit by ambient window light, left.
> > 55mm/2.8 at f/2.8, 1/30th sec, ISO 1600; handheld.
> >
> > Model 1 is Olivia Preston, Playboy Cybergirl of the Year 2018.
> > Model 2 is Phylactere Rayna, a fine arts lecturer at the University of
> > Montreal, model, yoga instructor, dancer, photographer.
> >
> > Enjoy!
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Re: PESO x 2 - two bests

[Bruce Walker]

Thank you very much, Doug.

> You already know I love that shot of Phylactere, and the other one, of
> Olivia, is a stunner.
> Sent  from my phone, which I’m staring at instead of doing actual work.
> > On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Bruce Walker 
> wrote:
> >
> > Two shots that I consider to be personal bests. The first is from 2
> > weeks ago and the second is from the middle of December, 2019.
> >
> > might as well jump
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Il3.o3EjAXlU
> >
> > nude study with Phylactere
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I9Ve8hGlONT0
> >
> >
> > Both shot with the 645Z and the 55mm f:2.8 SDM lens. Each was lit by a
> > single light source.
> >
> > The first was lit by an 8 inch hard silver reflector aimed though a
> > 3/4-stop 8x8 foot scrim, above-right.
> > 55mm/2.8 at f/8, 1/125th sec, ISO 100; handheld.
> >
> > The second was lit by ambient window light, left.
> > 55mm/2.8 at f/2.8, 1/30th sec, ISO 1600; handheld.
> >
> > Model 1 is Olivia Preston, Playboy Cybergirl of the Year 2018.
> > Model 2 is Phylactere Rayna, a fine arts lecturer at the University of
> > Montreal, model, yoga instructor, dancer, photographer.
> >
> > Enjoy!
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Re: PESO x 2 - two bests

[Bruce Walker]

Larry wrote:

> > On Feb 5, 2020, at 5:11 PM, Bruce Walker 
> wrote:
> >
> > Two shots that I consider to be personal bests. The first is from 2
> > weeks ago and the second is from the middle of December, 2019.
> As well you might.
> >
> > might as well jump
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Il3.o3EjAXlU
> That is definitely one of your best.
> >
> > nude study with Phylactere
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I9Ve8hGlONT0
> Very nice.  I’m curious whether you also processed it as a black and white.
> Also, a question about your composition choice.  On the left, bottom and
> right, there is a very similar amount of space between the edge of the
> frame and the edge of Pylactere, yet at the top about a third of the frame
> is simply background.  Why the large open space rather than something
> closer to a 4x5 crop with much less empty space?


I considered b but for me colour is a very important part of the
composition.

The negative space above? I was just feeling it. :-) I have been studying
Arnold Newman and designers like Paul Rand and trying to get a better feel
for a wider PoV and including more background. This shot just suggested to
me to open it up more and leave space above. My tendency has always been to
crowd the subject in the frame; I'm pushing back against that.

Thank you, Larry.

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[Bruce Walker]

Thank you very much, Doug.


> You already know I love that shot of Phylactere, and the other one, of
> Olivia, is a stunner.
> Sent  from my phone, which I’m staring at instead of doing actual work.
> > On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Bruce Walker 
> wrote:
> >
> > Two shots that I consider to be personal bests. The first is from 2
> > weeks ago and the second is from the middle of December, 2019.
> >
> > might as well jump
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Il3.o3EjAXlU
> >
> > nude study with Phylactere
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I9Ve8hGlONT0
> >
> >
> > Both shot with the 645Z and the 55mm f:2.8 SDM lens. Each was lit by a
> > single light source.
> >
> > The first was lit by an 8 inch hard silver reflector aimed though a
> > 3/4-stop 8x8 foot scrim, above-right.
> > 55mm/2.8 at f/8, 1/125th sec, ISO 100; handheld.
> >
> > The second was lit by ambient window light, left.
> > 55mm/2.8 at f/2.8, 1/30th sec, ISO 1600; handheld.
> >
> > Model 1 is Olivia Preston, Playboy Cybergirl of the Year 2018.
> > Model 2 is Phylactere Rayna, a fine arts lecturer at the University of
> > Montreal, model, yoga instructor, dancer, photographer.
> >
> > Enjoy!
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PESO x 2 - two bests

[Bruce Walker]

Two shots that I consider to be personal bests. The first is from 2
weeks ago and the second is from the middle of December, 2019.

might as well jump
https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Il3.o3EjAXlU

nude study with Phylactere
https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I9Ve8hGlONT0


Both shot with the 645Z and the 55mm f:2.8 SDM lens. Each was lit by a
single light source.

The first was lit by an 8 inch hard silver reflector aimed though a
3/4-stop 8x8 foot scrim, above-right.
55mm/2.8 at f/8, 1/125th sec, ISO 100; handheld.

The second was lit by ambient window light, left.
55mm/2.8 at f/2.8, 1/30th sec, ISO 1600; handheld.

Model 1 is Olivia Preston, Playboy Cybergirl of the Year 2018.
Model 2 is Phylactere Rayna, a fine arts lecturer at the University of
Montreal, model, yoga instructor, dancer, photographer.

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Re: 2019 PDML Quotations List

[Bruce Nagel]

On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 02:12:50PM -0500,Doug Brewer, discombobulated, 
unleashed:


it is my sincere hope that one day I will be remembered for something
other than self-loathing and intruding waterfowl.



On 12/31/19 4:48 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

The annual tradition: https://www.robertstech.com/quote.htm





From my quotes file, one of my favorites from the PDML:


A good photo will overcome its format.
(Doug Brewer)

although you can never go wrong with intruding waterfowl if you want the
element of surprise.


--
the other Bruce (back to lurking now)


I will not carry a gun. I'll carry your books, I'll carry a torch, I'll carry a
tune, I'll carry on, carry over, carry forward, Cary Grant, cash and carry,
carry me back to Old Virginia, I'll even hari-kari if you show me how, but I
will not carry a gun!
(Hawkeye Pierce)


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Re: OT: Email seems to be back

[Bruce Nagel]

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:21:48AM -0400, Larry Colen contributed:


The problem isn't a lack of service, the problem is that EarthLink uses the 
animal husbandry definition of the word.


...and that's a MARK!


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Re: Stupid iPad

[Bruce Nagel]

On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:55:21 -0400, P. J. Alling  wrote:


I'd never say anything about your taste, mostly because I haven't tasted
you, and probably wouldn't want to.


MARK!



On 6/10/2019 8:02 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

I almost never lack for inspiration, sometimes skill, often taste, but rarely 
for something to photograph.

On June 10, 2019 4:41:45 PM PDT, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

On 10/6/19, l...@red4est.com, discombobulated, unleashed:


I don't know what I'd do these days if I had a problem and my network
connection was down.

In that case the correct procedure is to pick up a good book by your
favourite photographer and sit down for some inspiration. With a really
hot cup of tea.


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Re: PESO -- fuzzy sweater

[Bruce Walker]

Well, I certainly understand and appreciate that, Dan. :)

Dan Matyola wrote:

> That sweater is indeed fuzzy!
> The image has nice geometry, but I like most of the other images on the
> same page more.
> Dan Matyola
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>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 5:59 PM Bruce Walker 
> wrote:
> > I have finally made a photograph that is safe from deletion on
> > Instagram or jail time on Facebook.
> >
> >
> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GYAjkPdbqmCc/I3WQT11D_0ko
> >
> > On Flickr if you prefer: https://flic.kr/p/24Eex4e
> >
> > 645z, 55mm/2.8 at f/4, 1/125th sec, iso 200. Exposure adjustments, b
> > conversion in Lightroom. Light courtesy large sheers-covered windows
> > behind me, illuminated by morning sun. Model is Sara Scarlet from
> > Belgium.



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PESO -- fuzzy sweater

[Bruce Walker]

I have finally made a photograph that is safe from deletion on
Instagram or jail time on Facebook.

https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/GYAjkPdbqmCc/I3WQT11D_0ko

On Flickr if you prefer: https://flic.kr/p/24Eex4e

645z, 55mm/2.8 at f/4, 1/125th sec, iso 200. Exposure adjustments, b
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behind me, illuminated by morning sun. Model is Sara Scarlet from
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Re: March PUG is up

[Bruce Walker]

Ann's "Missing you" is my strong favourite -- intriguing! Also much
amused by Brian's Still Life and PJ's plastic cars.

An entertaining gallery; thanks again for your efforts, Brian.

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Re: PESO:: Green Sea Turtles

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On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 08:36:14AM -0500, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
"Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:


Went up to the north shore to watch the surfers, but the waves were small
and the action nonexistent.  There were, however, a lot of green sea
turtles on the beach.

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/1/21/green-sea-turtle


Comments invited and appreciated.


Contrary to some others I actually like the composition and the inclusion of 
bits of the other turtles, it shows its part of a group but focuses on the one 
individual.  I think there is a good balance to the composition but I do wish 
there were just a wee wider strip of sand between the rock and the edge of the 
frame in the bottom right.  I like that the back portion of the shell mimics 
the angle of the profile of the rock.

Is it resting its head there because the rock is warm?  I like the shot, it says 
"Yeah I'm just going to rest here a moment."

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Re: NESO - Cage

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I appreciate that, Dan. Thank you.


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> I very much like the lighting and the geometry of the figure, but the stool
> (?) distract a bit from the power and unity of the image for me.
>
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> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 10:07 AM Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
> > Cage ~ October 2018 ~ Mississauga
> >
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IF3hAAvSDEhM
> >
> > I am getting much better at reducing PP. I processed this in Lightroom
> > only and it was mainly hue shifts for skin tones, and global curve and
> > level adjustments.
> >
> > 645z, 90mm/2.8 Macro
> >
> > Model: Joy Kidston.
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NESO - Cage

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Cage ~ October 2018 ~ Mississauga

https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IF3hAAvSDEhM

I am getting much better at reducing PP. I processed this in Lightroom
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645z, 90mm/2.8 Macro

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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

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On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 1:43 AM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
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> Am 02.01.19 um 16:39 schrieb Bruce Walker:
> > I think the secret to making sure it's a joy and not a duty is to
> > firmly resist the temptation to make photography a vocation.
>
> In my book, this goes for turning any hobby into a profession. I've done
> so with audio engineering, many moons ago, and it took me almost 20
> years afterwards to find some fun in doing audio as a hobby again.

Yeah, I hear you. But I guess it depends on the disposition of the
person as well.

I was a computer hobbyist before I entered the workforce, first as a
hardware engineer, later transitioning into software. Throughout my
career I kept on tinkering with hobby side projects, folding many of
them back into my professional work. Of course to the untrained eye it
appeared that I was merely a workaholic doing 12 to 14-hour days for
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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

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On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:09 PM William Robb  wrote:
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> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 9:49 AM Bruce Walker 
> > I think the secret to making sure it's a joy and not a duty is to
> > firmly resist the temptation to make photography a vocation.
>
> Or make photographing naked women into a vocation.

I expect that even shooting naked ladies can become a chore if there's
commerce involved. Deadlines, securing models, post-processing,
location scouting, paperwork ... bleargh.

Shooting nude women just because you can is all joy.

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Re: 2018 faves and chasing the muse

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I think the secret to making sure it's a joy and not a duty is to
firmly resist the temptation to make photography a vocation.

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:44 AM Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>
> I'm not taking many pictures these days, except occasionally with my phone, 
> but I'm not going to beat myself up about it, and I don't think anyone else 
> should. It's meant to be enjoyable, not a duty.

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Re: How to get new photographic ideas

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A terrific and inspirational read, Bob. Thank you!


On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:52 AM Bob W-PDML  wrote:
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> According to Philippe Halsman:
>
> https://www.magnumphotos.com/theory-and-practice/philippe-halsman-how-to-get-new-photographic-ideas/
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Re: PESO x 2: wrapping up 2018

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Thank you, Dan. Really appreciate your thoughts on Soaring!

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 12:29 PM Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> Excellent work, as always!  These are indeed among your finer images.
>
> I think, however, that I like "Soaring" even better.  That is an especially
> strong image, with great geometry and vitality.
>
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>
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 11:51 AM Bruce Walker 
> wrote:
>
> > Two shots that crown 2018 for me. My most recents are almost always my
> > favourites, but I feel particularly accomplished with these.
> >
> > "Draped"
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IGrU7cLj6TI0
> > 645z & 55mm/2.8
> >
> > "Cameo"
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I0o.Q0ANndP8
> > 645z & 150mm/2.8
> >
> >
> > For Dan: start here,
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com
> > The specific images are the 2nd in the 1st row, and the 1st in the 2nd row.
> >
> > Both shots at f/2.8. Window light only.
> >
> > Cheers!
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Re: PESO x 2: wrapping up 2018

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I'll take disturbing, Ann. :-) Thank you!

On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 9:51 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:
>
> I'm with Cotty on these - with the added note that I gotta say I find
> Draped disturbing..
>
> ann
>
> On 12/27/2018 5:22 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> > On 27/12/18, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >> "Draped"
> >> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IGrU7cLj6TI0
> >> 645z & 55mm/2.8
> > Not a fan. Bit too contrived for me.
> >
> >> "Cameo"
> >> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I0o.Q0ANndP8
> >> 645z & 150mm/2.8
> > Sublime! Love it.
> >
> > Happy New Year Brucey
> >
> >
> >
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Re: PESO x 2: wrapping up 2018

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I appreciate it, Cotty.

Happy New Year to you! :-)


On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 5:22 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 27/12/18, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >"Draped"
> >https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IGrU7cLj6TI0
> >645z & 55mm/2.8
>
> Not a fan. Bit too contrived for me.
>
> >"Cameo"
> >https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I0o.Q0ANndP8
> >645z & 150mm/2.8
>
> Sublime! Love it.
>
> Happy New Year Brucey
>
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PESO x 2: wrapping up 2018

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Two shots that crown 2018 for me. My most recents are almost always my
favourites, but I feel particularly accomplished with these.

"Draped"
https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IGrU7cLj6TI0
645z & 55mm/2.8

"Cameo"
https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I0o.Q0ANndP8
645z & 150mm/2.8


For Dan: start here,
https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com
The specific images are the 2nd in the 1st row, and the 1st in the 2nd row.

Both shots at f/2.8. Window light only.

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Re: GESO (16) - Amalfi

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Those church interiors are stunning, Rick.

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 9:32 PM Rick Womer  wrote:
>
> My computer problems once again under control, allow me to present a gallery 
> of photos from Amalfi, Italy. It is a remarkably vertical town.
>
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/organize/Italy-11-2018/Amalfi
>
> (K-5, DA 17-70 and 11-17)
>
> Comments always appreciated.
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Re: Posting to instagram from a desktop

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Larry wrote:
>
> Has anyone figured out a convenient way to post to instagram from a
> desktop computer?

This: https://www.lrinstagram.com/

I have been using it successfully for most of this year. From time to
time Instagram changes something and breaks it, but the developer is
proactive and issues an update.

Technically, using this is completely counter to Instagram's TOS --
they disallow any 3rd party access to their APIs -- but I love giving
Instagram and their stupid minions 20% of a high five.

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Re: We've got snow!

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On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 12:00:04PM -0500, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
On Sun, 9 Dec Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Without images to prove it, we don't believe a thing you say!


MARK!



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On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 11:40 AM John  wrote:


Or more likely some kind of mix of sleet & snow that's white and a couple
of
inches deep. It's wet & heavy. I've already heard idiots out playing with
their
4WD vehicles this morning so I expect the power to go out soon.

It was so quiet around 5 am that it woke me up, so I do have a photo or
two, but
I don't know if the power will stay on long enough for me to process them
and
get them up on flickr.

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Re: A camera so hip it almost hurts

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On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:35 PM Larry Colen  wrote:
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> Bruce Walker wrote on 11/25/18 4:52 AM:
> > It pains me to say this, but that's actually kind of appealing. :-)
> >
> > Does that make me, tragically, hip?
>
> There are many things you need to worry about, being hip is none of them.

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Re: A camera so hip it almost hurts

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It pains me to say this, but that's actually kind of appealing. :-)

Does that make me, tragically, hip?


On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 5:23 AM Larry Colen  wrote:
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> Remember the kickstarter for the camera that uses leica mount lenses
> someone posted a link to a while back?  Here's one that is even hipper.
>
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ondu-/ondu-iii-pinhole-cameras-perfect-shutter-snap-on-f?ref=project_link
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Re: Haven't done a PESO in a while

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Very elegant, Mark.

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 10:58 PM Mark Roberts
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> Lisa and I went to the White Mountains in New Hampshire last weekend.
> Did a bit of hiking on Mt. Washington. This is one of the shots I got.
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e204563.jpg
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Re: Taking better pictures

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Everyone with a new macro lens.


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:26 PM Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> Who said "If your photos aren't good enough, you are not close enough"?
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 3:03 PM Ken Waller  wrote:
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> > "Want to take better pictures?"
> > "Aim at better stuff".
> >
> >
> > I found these profound words of wisdom in a National Geographic
> > 'Expedition
> > Photography' brochure hyping their 2019-2020 Photo Expeditions.
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

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On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:31 PM Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> When one gets to be my age,  "the future" of anything is irrelevant.

Mark!

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Re: PESO: Foundations

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That's very good, Dave.

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:34 AM David Mann  wrote:
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> My wife and daughter went to a play last week so I spent a little time having 
> a walk around the central city.
>
> Before the earthquakes this was the city's tallest building.  Now it's just 
> another derelict site.
>
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1063/#peso
>
> I bought my lunch from a ground-floor bakery in this building on the day of 
> the 2011 quake... I was walking back to the office when it hit.
>
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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

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They probably just haven't figured out how to avoid blown-out
reflections in the glass! :-)

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:26 PM  wrote:
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> The e-passport system works most of the time, but it's not infallible, as my
> wife found out in Europe this year.  It's also a bit of a nuisance to have
> to take off your glasses, cap/hat, etc. when using it.  Why authorities
> insist on having passport photos without glasses for people who wear them
> all the time is beyond me.
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
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> > From: PDML  On Behalf Of John Francis
> > Sent: Friday, 16 November 2018 10:34 AM
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> > Subject: Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship"
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> >
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:49:48AM -0500, John wrote:
> > > On 11/15/2018 04:42, Rick Womer wrote:
> > > > IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax
> honcho
> > > > said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.
> > > >
> > > > It???s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office
> equipment
> > > > companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper
> > > > documents.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ironic in light of the increasing demand for physical photo-IDs.
> >
> > I think that rather depends on where you are.
> >
> > I recently had to renew my (British) passport.  Not only was I able to
> submit
> > my photograph as a digital image - the passport itself also contains an
> > encoded
> > form of the image, readable electronically.  And apparently at some UK
> > airports
> > I could just walk up with the passport in hand, place it on the desk, and
> look
> > into a camera.  My digital image from the camera would be checked against
> > the
> > biometric data encoded in the pasport, and if everything checked out I
> would
> > be able to proceed through the gate.  I'm sure there would be somebody
> > present
> > to supervise things, but the whole verification process would be done
> > digitally.
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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

[Bruce Walker]

When I began my career in 1978 I worked for one of the then Big Three
word processor companies (AES Data, Canada's answer to Wang and IBM)
and the phrase "paperless office" was widely heard. Paper would soon
be obsolete.

When I wrapped up my full time career in 2010 I worked in the Toronto
office of a San Francisco wireless firm (Soma Networking) and was
located not far from a big honking multi copier/printer (possibly a
Ricoh) that churned out documents all the time. This despite that all
meetings featured a table full of laptops and tablets.

"Paperless office". Pffft. :-)

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 4:43 AM Rick Womer  wrote:
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> It’s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office equipment
> companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper
> documents.
>
> Rick

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Re: Tripods

[Bruce Walker]

In my experience, when I remember to bring a tripod I don't end up
using it. When I need a tripod, I forgot to bring it -- it's at home.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 9:57 AM P. J. Alling  wrote:
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> I always thought the best tripod is the one you have with you. Unless
> you left all of the them at home.
>
>
> On 11/13/2018 9:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > Both provide ample evidence that disproves the notion that the best
> > tripod is the one you left at home.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:33 AM Alan C  wrote:
> >> Touchè
> >>
> >> Alan C
> >>
> >>
> >> On 13-Nov-18 09:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Alan C wrote on 11/12/18 11:36 PM:
> >>>> https://cdn.instructables.com/FIG/IYMW/I0466WB8/FIGIYMWI0466WB8.LARGE.jpg?auto=webp=600
> >>>
> >>> The one I made is sturdier:
> >>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157619815658015
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Tripods

[Bruce Walker]

Both provide ample evidence that disproves the notion that the best
tripod is the one you left at home.


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> Touchè
>
> Alan C
>
>
> On 13-Nov-18 09:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >
> >
> > Alan C wrote on 11/12/18 11:36 PM:
> >> https://cdn.instructables.com/FIG/IYMW/I0466WB8/FIGIYMWI0466WB8.LARGE.jpg?auto=webp=600
> >
> >
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> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157619815658015
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Re: PESO - comfortable

[Bruce Walker]

And that's about what I'd expect, John; full-size images. Thanks!

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 2:22 PM John  wrote:
>
> On Flickr (where the image is measurable against a black background) it's 
> about
> 5.5 inches x 7.5 inches on a 27 inch 1080p monitor. Can't measure the others
> because the white background in the image fades into the webpage's white
> background, but the figure looks about the same.
>
> On 11/10/2018 13:11, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > John, same size as in a reasonable viewing size, bigger than just a 
> > thumbnail?
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 11:56 AM John  wrote:
> >>
> >> If it helps any, I get the same size image from all three URLs. I did have 
> >> to
> >> sign in to Yahoo to be able to see it in Flickr.
> >>
> >> Email program = Thunderbird if that tells anything.
> >>
> >> On 11/10/2018 08:33, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>> Dan, I wonder if your mail program is splitting the link? Try this
> >>> shortened URL:
> >>>
> >>> http://bit.ly/2DwJHHb
> >>>
> >>> Are you on Flickr? It's at this link too: https://flic.kr/p/P14iXD
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 11:40 PM Daniel J. Matyola  
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I only see the thumbnail version.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dan Matyola
> >>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 10:07 AM Bruce Walker  
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> "Just make yourself comfortable."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Imgc2wwJTrjU -- (mildly 
> >>>>> NSFW)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Model: Pix.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 645z, 150mm/2.8 at f/11, 1/125th sec, iso 200;
> >>>>> Post in Lightroom and Photoshop.
> >>>>> Lots of lights.
> >>>>>
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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 151, Issue 23

[Bruce Nagel]

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 09:41:06AM -0500, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:


Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 11:46:29 +0100
From: Jostein 
To: pdml@pdml.net
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The white patch is actually the overcast sky, I'll have to take your word for
it on the variety of fern but you're correct on both the moss and the ferns.
:-)  This was shot in Hylebos Wetlands Park in Federal Way, WA which has a
wondrous variety of plantlife to photograph, including moss and ferns
growing like crazy all over many of the trees.

Bruce N.
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Jostein wrote:

Bruce N. will have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect that:

the white patch is snow

The light-green foliage is a fern, most likely a polypodium species.
Which one depends on where the image is taken.

The foreground is a moss, the brown part its roots. I can't make
qualified guesses about species.

Jostein

Den 06.11.2018 00:23, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:

I have no problem with Bruce Walker's image.  It would be nice if I could
move the magnifying glass around.  

It is Bruce Nagel's image that I can't make head or tails of.

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - comfortable

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John, same size as in a reasonable viewing size, bigger than just a thumbnail?

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 11:56 AM John  wrote:
>
> If it helps any, I get the same size image from all three URLs. I did have to
> sign in to Yahoo to be able to see it in Flickr.
>
> Email program = Thunderbird if that tells anything.
>
> On 11/10/2018 08:33, Bruce Walker wrote:
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> > shortened URL:
> >
> > http://bit.ly/2DwJHHb
> >
> > Are you on Flickr? It's at this link too: https://flic.kr/p/P14iXD
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 11:40 PM Daniel J. Matyola  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I only see the thumbnail version.
> >>
> >> Dan Matyola
> >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 10:07 AM Bruce Walker  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Just make yourself comfortable."
> >>>
> >>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Imgc2wwJTrjU -- (mildly NSFW)
> >>>
> >>> Model: Pix.
> >>>
> >>> 645z, 150mm/2.8 at f/11, 1/125th sec, iso 200;
> >>> Post in Lightroom and Photoshop.
> >>> Lots of lights.
> >>>
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Re: PESO - comfortable

[Bruce Walker]

Dan, my portfolio site (Photoshelter) seems to be really confused by
your browser and mistakenly assuming it is a small mobile screen. But
then it uses a huge font for the title (?!?). Do you also see the
"hamburger menu" (3 stacked horizontal lines) in the upper-left
corner?

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 9:41 AM Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>
> That still takes me to a page with "BRUCE WALKER" in very large print.
> Under that is the thumbnail, and under that "2 0f 300."  Double clicking
> leads me to a large page of nudes, and the one that was in the thumbnail is
> indeed the second image (I assume there are 300 on the page).
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 8:34 AM Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
> > Dan, I wonder if your mail program is splitting the link? Try this
> > shortened URL:
> >
> > http://bit.ly/2DwJHHb
> >
> > Are you on Flickr? It's at this link too: https://flic.kr/p/P14iXD
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 11:40 PM Daniel J. Matyola 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I only see the thumbnail version.
> > >
> > > Dan Matyola
> > > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 10:07 AM Bruce Walker 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Just make yourself comfortable."
> > > >
> > > > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Imgc2wwJTrjU -- (mildly
> > NSFW)
> > > >
> > > > Model: Pix.
> > > >
> > > > 645z, 150mm/2.8 at f/11, 1/125th sec, iso 200;
> > > > Post in Lightroom and Photoshop.
> > > > Lots of lights.
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Re: iPESO: Doorbell View

[Bruce Walker]

This could be the start of a whole new photo category. :-)

I installed a Nest Hello doorbell button a few weeks ago, but the
shots from it are just of our boring front walk. It's pretty cool
though; I haven't tried this feature yet but it's supposed to be able
to recognize familiar faces and distinguish between friends/family and
strangers. I mainly wanted to know when packages are delivered and to
be sure that they aren't stolen.

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 9:36 AM Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>
> My son gave us a video surveillance system called Ring.  It includes a
> doorbell for both the front and back doors, plus a motion detector
> floodlight for the back yard.  It sends a message to our iPhones and Apple
> watches whenever there is motion in the protected zones.  One can view a
> live image of the activity from anyplace where there is wifi or cell
> service.
>
> We were at a meeting in Princeton, about 16 miles south of our home, when
> we received messages that someone was at our front door.  I left the
> meeting, went into the hallway, where I saw that the yard maintenance crew
> was ringing our front doorbell.  Later I saw that one of our next-door
> neighbors was also ringing the bell.  I called her on my cell phone, and
> learned that the lawn maintenance crew had broken one of our irrigation
> lines, and water was pouring out all over the yard.  I was able to describe
> to her husband where and how to turn off the water supply to the irrigation
> system, solving the problem.  This is a very useful device, which I highly
> recommend.
>
> In any event, the wind the other day caused the from door system to
> activate, giving a nice image of our front yard with fall foliage.  I took
> a screen shot to get the image onto my iPhone, so I could download it to my
> computer and upload it to Squarespace:
>
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/dans-pesos/2018/11/10/doorbell-view
>
> Obviously, there was no skill or art on my part, but comments are still
> invited.
>
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Re: PESO - comfortable

[Bruce Walker]

Dan, I wonder if your mail program is splitting the link? Try this
shortened URL:

http://bit.ly/2DwJHHb

Are you on Flickr? It's at this link too: https://flic.kr/p/P14iXD

Cheers!

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>
> I only see the thumbnail version.
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 10:07 AM Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
> > "Just make yourself comfortable."
> >
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Imgc2wwJTrjU -- (mildly NSFW)
> >
> > Model: Pix.
> >
> > 645z, 150mm/2.8 at f/11, 1/125th sec, iso 200;
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> > Lots of lights.
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Re: PESO - comfortable

[Bruce Walker]

Thank you, Larry.

I was inspired to try this from a book of Albert Watson stuff. I felt
this was a subject that was strong enough to stand on its own on white
seamless.

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 4:06 PM Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> Nice use of the white background combined with soft but not flat
> lighting.  The body art and short hair make for a more visually
> interesting model as well. The color of the upholstery works well in
> this also.
>
> Bruce Walker wrote on 11/9/18 7:06 AM:
> > "Just make yourself comfortable."
> >
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Imgc2wwJTrjU -- (mildly NSFW)
> >
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> >
> > 645z, 150mm/2.8 at f/11, 1/125th sec, iso 200;
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> > Lots of lights.
> >
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Re: PESO - comfortable

[Bruce Walker]

Imagine that! :-)

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 11:32 AM P. J. Alling  wrote:
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> Funny she doesn't really look comfortable...
>
>
> On 11/9/2018 10:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > "Just make yourself comfortable."
> >
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Imgc2wwJTrjU -- (mildly NSFW)
> >
> > Model: Pix.
> >
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PESO - comfortable

[Bruce Walker]

"Just make yourself comfortable."

https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Imgc2wwJTrjU -- (mildly NSFW)

Model: Pix.

645z, 150mm/2.8 at f/11, 1/125th sec, iso 200;
Post in Lightroom and Photoshop.
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Re: November PUG is up

[Bruce Walker]

Enjoyed those. Especially Dave Brooks' chickadee, Filip Nicolai's Dead
Browser and Stan Halpin's Rust.

Dave, that's a really great grab among lucky grabs!
Filip: I'm amazed anyone even remembers Navigator. :-) Ah, the history there.

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 6:39 AM Brian Walters  wrote:
>
> G'day all,
>
> A varied gallery with a variety of interpretations.  I'd say Dan and Bruce 
> have
> the most literal interpretations.
>
> View here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
>
> +
>
> Next up: 'Water'.
>
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
> You can submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: November PUG is up

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On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 2:26 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> I can't make head or tail out of Bruces :-)

That's a bummer, Ann.

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Re: Nuts to Adobe

[Bruce Walker]

Quite so! Yeah, so still an issue although you can at least preserve
your work and manage the assets in Lr.

Hmmm. Still sub-optimal.

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 5:22 PM Jostein  wrote:
>
> I suspect it will still mean that the adjustments made in Serif-layers
> will not be understood by LR because of the non-Adobe way of encoding them.
>
> Jostein
>
> Den 04.11.2018 22:16, skrev Bruce Walker:
> > Aha! They have listened to user feedback then; good.
> >
> > When I tested it, I complained about that and was told they had no
> > plans to fix it, so tough. (Basically.)
> >
> > So it could be useful after all.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 4:10 PM Jostein  wrote:
> >> Thanks Bruce.
> >>
> >> Just returned home to a wider network pipeline and dug up this statement
> >> at the Affinity user forum:
> >>
> >> "We have registered our own TIFF tags for embedding Affinity layer data
> >> in a TIFF, in similar fashion to PSD layer data. This is intended for
> >> use with DAMs that use TIFF as their interchange format.  When saving a
> >> TIFF file, if your document has multiple layers you will be given the
> >> option of including Affinity layer data.  This will preserve the
> >> editable elements of a multi-layer document.  This obviously comes at a
> >> cost of increased file size.  Our TIFF tags will use our proprietary
> >> data format and as such can only be used by Affinity applications.
> >>
> >> At this time we have no plans to save TIFF files with the PSD format
> >> layer data.  PSD layer data held in a TIFF file will be imported and
> >> converted to the Affinity format."
> >>
> >> Jostein

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Re: PESO nude study

[Bruce Walker]

Next up: peppers.

:-)

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 4:39 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:
>
> I see you are in your Edward Weston period
>
> ann
>
> On 11/4/2018 4:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > >From a studio session on Halloween with a new to me model, Joy
> > Kidston. It's quite likely Safe For Work as no lady bits are visible,
> > but it _is_ a nude, so you know.
> >
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Ijdax8ZvD_yo
> >
> > 645z, 90mm/2.8 at f/11, 1/125th sec, iso 200;
> > Post in Lightroom.
> >
>
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Re: Nuts to Adobe

[Bruce Walker]

Aha! They have listened to user feedback then; good.

When I tested it, I complained about that and was told they had no
plans to fix it, so tough. (Basically.)

So it could be useful after all.

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 4:10 PM Jostein  wrote:
>
> Thanks Bruce.
>
> Just returned home to a wider network pipeline and dug up this statement
> at the Affinity user forum:
>
> "We have registered our own TIFF tags for embedding Affinity layer data
> in a TIFF, in similar fashion to PSD layer data. This is intended for
> use with DAMs that use TIFF as their interchange format.  When saving a
> TIFF file, if your document has multiple layers you will be given the
> option of including Affinity layer data.  This will preserve the
> editable elements of a multi-layer document.  This obviously comes at a
> cost of increased file size.  Our TIFF tags will use our proprietary
> data format and as such can only be used by Affinity applications.
>
> At this time we have no plans to save TIFF files with the PSD format
> layer data.  PSD layer data held in a TIFF file will be imported and
> converted to the Affinity format."
>
> Jostein
>
> Den 04.11.2018 15:51, skrev Bruce Walker:
> > On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 7:42 AM Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> >> This saving in Affinity, Bruce...
> >> It reads to me like the problem has two components and I'm a little 
> >> confused about what's what.
> >> For starters, you configured Affinity as an external editor in LR, right?
> > Right.
> >
> >
> >> Then you invoked Affinity from LR, which makes LR create a TIFF that is 
> >> opened in Affinity. Hope I'm still on track.
> > Correct. Still on track. :-)
> >
> >
> >> Then, when you finished the edit in Affinity, I imagine you saved the TIFF 
> >> as is.
> > Yup. I save the Affinity-edited version.
> >
> >
> >> Here are the things I haven't quite figured out yet...
> >>
> >> Did the the saved edit of the TIFF then show in LR? If not, could the 
> >> preview be refreshed to show it?
> > Yes, it appears in the Lr Library as expected.
> >
> >
> >> And about the layers... Did Affinity preserve layers in the saved file?
> > No, it doesn't, and that's the essential problem.
> > Affinity cannot create a layered TIFF like Photoshop. It flattens the
> > TIFF so all your intermediate editing steps -- the layers -- are gone
> > forever.
> >
> > As one reviewer pointed out you can save the edited file separately
> > from within Affinity as a proprietary Affinity file but Lightroom
> > can't manage that as an asset, so it can (and will likely) go astray.
> >
> >
> >> Jostein the slow learner...
> > That I doubt. :-)
> >
> >
> >> Den 4. november 2018 02.54.04 CET, skrev Bruce Walker 
> >> :
> >>> No, no. I was evaluating AP as a possible substitute for Photoshop. So
> >>> Edit-in-Affinity must be able to accept a TIFF file, edit that into a
> >>> layered TIFF, then write it back to Lightroom, just like Photoshop
> >>> does. Ie: the workflow expected by your regular Lightroom user.
> >>>
> >>> It can't do that. So ... /next/.
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 6:16 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>> That’s great, but if you’re using AP as your external editor for LR,
> >>> why are you using Photoshop to generate files?
> >>>> G
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Bruce Walker 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> Godfrey, then it must have been a year ago then. They were pushing
> >>> the
> >>>>> impending release with a big social media and blogging sites
> >>> campaign
> >>>>> and urging folks to give the beta a test as it was to be released
> >>>>> shortly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You don't _make_ a layered file in Lightroom. You receive one back
> >>>>> into Lightroom from an external editor, like Photoshop.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Example: starting in Lightroom with a DNG file in your library, you
> >>>>> invoke Edit-in Photoshop. That sends the file to Photoshop where it
> >>>>> appears as a single layer in a freshly opened file.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You edit this. Create some adjustment layers. Now Save.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That sends the edited copy of the file back to Lightroo

PESO nude study

[Bruce Walker]

>From a studio session on Halloween with a new to me model, Joy
Kidston. It's quite likely Safe For Work as no lady bits are visible,
but it _is_ a nude, so you know.

https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/Ijdax8ZvD_yo

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Re: Nuts to Adobe

[Bruce Walker]

Godfrey, okay: strike "regular Lightroom user". I really meant
"regular Lightroom user who uses Photoshop extensively as an external
editor" anyway.

But Jostein was looking for a replacement for Photoshop as an external
editor for Lightroom, presumably to do more than just add a border.

I suggest that as it does not save the full state of the file,
Affinity fails to meet that criteria. If flattening the TIFF is not an
issue, then Affinity may well be fine for him, and others.

And yes, I did indeed decide to stick with using Photoshop in my
workflow. I went ahead and upgraded to CC after many years of waiting
for somebody to come up with a usable (for me) alternative to Adobe's
stuff.

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 1:59 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>
> Bruce,
>
> Those are *your* requirements: preserving your exact Adobe LR+PS workflow. I 
> would not presume that that is the expectation of a "regular Lightroom user" 
> at all.
>
> I've been using Lightroom since it was Public Beta 2 in 2006. As the years 
> have gone on, I have discarded using Photoshop entirely—where all the 
> complexities of layered TIFFs/PSDs, etc, make sense—because I have no need 
> Photoshops graphics capabilities for my photography. I use Lightroom to do 
> the raw conversion and finishing work on my photos, with the sole exception 
> of the little ragged black border that I emplace with Flare 2 or SnapSeed. So 
> I have absolutely no need of layered TIFFs, etc.
>
> When I use external editors launched from LR *other* than PS, I'm not looking 
> to replicate PS features. I'm looking to do something that some other app 
> does a little better, a little more simply, a little more conveniently. That, 
> as far as I've seen from teaching LR and PS courses, is far more what the 
> average LR user does with external editors other than Photoshop.
>
> Affinity Photo does an excellent job of raw conversion and finishing 
> comparable to Lightroom's capabilities, and that's what I'd buy it to 
> replace. The very occasional need I have to edit a document with text and 
> graphics emplacements, it does that well too. I have no need of a Photoshop 
> replacement, although for many folks it will suffice for that. What it 
> doesn't do that LR does so well is simple image management and templated 
> operations for printing and slide show production. I haven't found tools yet 
> that do this as well as LR does, so as long as LR 6.14 continues to operate, 
> I'll be sticking with it. Unless I happen to find something that actually 
> does these things better.
>
> If AP doesn't work for you, and you want an exact clone of Photoshop to 
> support your current workflow, well, just stick with Photoshop. It'll do the 
> best job. :)
>
> G
>
> > On Nov 3, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> >
> > No, no. I was evaluating AP as a possible substitute for Photoshop. So
> > Edit-in-Affinity must be able to accept a TIFF file, edit that into a
> > layered TIFF, then write it back to Lightroom, just like Photoshop
> > does. Ie: the workflow expected by your regular Lightroom user.
> >
> > It can't do that. So ... /next/.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 6:16 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> That’s great, but if you’re using AP as your external editor for LR, why 
> >> are you using Photoshop to generate files?
> >>
> >> G
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Godfrey, then it must have been a year ago then. They were pushing the
> >>> impending release with a big social media and blogging sites campaign
> >>> and urging folks to give the beta a test as it was to be released
> >>> shortly.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You don't _make_ a layered file in Lightroom. You receive one back
> >>> into Lightroom from an external editor, like Photoshop.
> >>>
> >>> Example: starting in Lightroom with a DNG file in your library, you
> >>> invoke Edit-in Photoshop. That sends the file to Photoshop where it
> >>> appears as a single layer in a freshly opened file.
> >>>
> >>> You edit this. Create some adjustment layers. Now Save.
> >>>
> >>> That sends the edited copy of the file back to Lightroom as a layered
> >>> TIFF where it appears in the catalog as a new file. I stack that with
> >>> the original for less confusion.
> >>>
> >>> If you re-edit that edited TIFF you will find that the entire thing is
> >>> there intact with all layers, meta info, etc.
> >>>
> 

Re: Nuts to Adobe

[Bruce Walker]

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 7:42 AM Jostein Øksne  wrote:
>
> This saving in Affinity, Bruce...
> It reads to me like the problem has two components and I'm a little confused 
> about what's what.
> For starters, you configured Affinity as an external editor in LR, right?

Right.


> Then you invoked Affinity from LR, which makes LR create a TIFF that is 
> opened in Affinity. Hope I'm still on track.

Correct. Still on track. :-)


> Then, when you finished the edit in Affinity, I imagine you saved the TIFF as 
> is.

Yup. I save the Affinity-edited version.


> Here are the things I haven't quite figured out yet...
>
> Did the the saved edit of the TIFF then show in LR? If not, could the preview 
> be refreshed to show it?

Yes, it appears in the Lr Library as expected.


> And about the layers... Did Affinity preserve layers in the saved file?

No, it doesn't, and that's the essential problem.
Affinity cannot create a layered TIFF like Photoshop. It flattens the
TIFF so all your intermediate editing steps -- the layers -- are gone
forever.

As one reviewer pointed out you can save the edited file separately
from within Affinity as a proprietary Affinity file but Lightroom
can't manage that as an asset, so it can (and will likely) go astray.


> Jostein the slow learner...

That I doubt. :-)


>
> Den 4. november 2018 02.54.04 CET, skrev Bruce Walker 
> :
> >No, no. I was evaluating AP as a possible substitute for Photoshop. So
> >Edit-in-Affinity must be able to accept a TIFF file, edit that into a
> >layered TIFF, then write it back to Lightroom, just like Photoshop
> >does. Ie: the workflow expected by your regular Lightroom user.
> >
> >It can't do that. So ... /next/.
> >
> >On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 6:16 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> That’s great, but if you’re using AP as your external editor for LR,
> >why are you using Photoshop to generate files?
> >>
> >> G
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Bruce Walker 
> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Godfrey, then it must have been a year ago then. They were pushing
> >the
> >> > impending release with a big social media and blogging sites
> >campaign
> >> > and urging folks to give the beta a test as it was to be released
> >> > shortly.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > You don't _make_ a layered file in Lightroom. You receive one back
> >> > into Lightroom from an external editor, like Photoshop.
> >> >
> >> > Example: starting in Lightroom with a DNG file in your library, you
> >> > invoke Edit-in Photoshop. That sends the file to Photoshop where it
> >> > appears as a single layer in a freshly opened file.
> >> >
> >> > You edit this. Create some adjustment layers. Now Save.
> >> >
> >> > That sends the edited copy of the file back to Lightroom as a
> >layered
> >> > TIFF where it appears in the catalog as a new file. I stack that
> >with
> >> > the original for less confusion.
> >> >
> >> > If you re-edit that edited TIFF you will find that the entire thing
> >is
> >> > there intact with all layers, meta info, etc.
> >> >
> >> > Clear?
> >> >
> >> >> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:18 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi
> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Since Affinity Photo was still in beta release in mid-spring of
> >2017 and didn't go final until after August 2017 far as I can tell, I
> >doubt you were working with the "final beta" if it was a couple of
> >years ago.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't really understand the workflow that your comments propose.
> >I'm not entirely sure how I make a "layered TIFF" or "layered PSD" file
> >in Lightroom to begin with. Lightroom's use of layers is internal. ??
> >> >>
> >> >> But for sure, if it's all of Photoshop that you want, just use
> >Photoshop.
> >> >>
> >> >> G
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Bruce Walker
> > wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm certainly willing to update my opinion about Affinity's
> >> >>> capabilities, but I was unable to complete a review of it myself
> >when
> >> >>> I tested their final beta a couple of years ago.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The first issue I had was completely wacky colour shifts when I
> >&

Re: Nuts to Adobe

[Bruce Walker]

No, no. I was evaluating AP as a possible substitute for Photoshop. So
Edit-in-Affinity must be able to accept a TIFF file, edit that into a
layered TIFF, then write it back to Lightroom, just like Photoshop
does. Ie: the workflow expected by your regular Lightroom user.

It can't do that. So ... /next/.

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 6:16 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>
> That’s great, but if you’re using AP as your external editor for LR, why are 
> you using Photoshop to generate files?
>
> G
>
>
> > On Nov 3, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> >
> > Godfrey, then it must have been a year ago then. They were pushing the
> > impending release with a big social media and blogging sites campaign
> > and urging folks to give the beta a test as it was to be released
> > shortly.
> >
> >
> > You don't _make_ a layered file in Lightroom. You receive one back
> > into Lightroom from an external editor, like Photoshop.
> >
> > Example: starting in Lightroom with a DNG file in your library, you
> > invoke Edit-in Photoshop. That sends the file to Photoshop where it
> > appears as a single layer in a freshly opened file.
> >
> > You edit this. Create some adjustment layers. Now Save.
> >
> > That sends the edited copy of the file back to Lightroom as a layered
> > TIFF where it appears in the catalog as a new file. I stack that with
> > the original for less confusion.
> >
> > If you re-edit that edited TIFF you will find that the entire thing is
> > there intact with all layers, meta info, etc.
> >
> > Clear?
> >
> >> On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:18 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Since Affinity Photo was still in beta release in mid-spring of 2017 and 
> >> didn't go final until after August 2017 far as I can tell, I doubt you 
> >> were working with the "final beta" if it was a couple of years ago.
> >>
> >> I don't really understand the workflow that your comments propose. I'm not 
> >> entirely sure how I make a "layered TIFF" or "layered PSD" file in 
> >> Lightroom to begin with. Lightroom's use of layers is internal. ??
> >>
> >> But for sure, if it's all of Photoshop that you want, just use Photoshop.
> >>
> >> G
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 3, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm certainly willing to update my opinion about Affinity's
> >>> capabilities, but I was unable to complete a review of it myself when
> >>> I tested their final beta a couple of years ago.
> >>>
> >>> The first issue I had was completely wacky colour shifts when I
> >>> imported a file from Lightroom. I assume they have fixed that by now.
> >>>
> >>> But the utter deal-killer was that although you can configure it as an
> >>> external editor to Lightroom and it will import a layered TIFF, it
> >>> cannot write a layered TIFF (or a PSD) back to Lightroom. So if I used
> >>> it as an external editor I lost all my carefully constructed layers
> >>> when the file was flattened to save it back. That is 100% useless to
> >>> me as my files often make a few round trips to the external editor
> >>> while I make revisions, or in the case of long retouch, save
> >>> checkpoints or continue editing later on.
> >>>
> >>> This is till the case as far as I can tell from googling.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:31 AM Mark Roberts
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 7:03 AM Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Other developers are improving their products too, so essentially, if 
> >>>>>> they can do now what CS6 can do, it's what I need it for.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I can say with assurance that they do not. The majority of these
> >>>>> products are going after the Lightroom market
> >>>>
> >>>> Affinity Photo is not going after Lightroom, it's definitely a
> >>>> Photoshop replacement. I have it and it's *very* good. Probably a step
> >>>> up from Photoshop CS6.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia
> >>>> www.robertstech.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> &g

Re: Nuts to Adobe

[Bruce Walker]

Godfrey, then it must have been a year ago then. They were pushing the
impending release with a big social media and blogging sites campaign
and urging folks to give the beta a test as it was to be released
shortly.


You don't _make_ a layered file in Lightroom. You receive one back
into Lightroom from an external editor, like Photoshop.

Example: starting in Lightroom with a DNG file in your library, you
invoke Edit-in Photoshop. That sends the file to Photoshop where it
appears as a single layer in a freshly opened file.

You edit this. Create some adjustment layers. Now Save.

That sends the edited copy of the file back to Lightroom as a layered
TIFF where it appears in the catalog as a new file. I stack that with
the original for less confusion.

If you re-edit that edited TIFF you will find that the entire thing is
there intact with all layers, meta info, etc.

Clear?

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:18 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>
> Since Affinity Photo was still in beta release in mid-spring of 2017 and 
> didn't go final until after August 2017 far as I can tell, I doubt you were 
> working with the "final beta" if it was a couple of years ago.
>
> I don't really understand the workflow that your comments propose. I'm not 
> entirely sure how I make a "layered TIFF" or "layered PSD" file in Lightroom 
> to begin with. Lightroom's use of layers is internal. ??
>
> But for sure, if it's all of Photoshop that you want, just use Photoshop.
>
> G
>
>
> > On Nov 3, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> >
> > I'm certainly willing to update my opinion about Affinity's
> > capabilities, but I was unable to complete a review of it myself when
> > I tested their final beta a couple of years ago.
> >
> > The first issue I had was completely wacky colour shifts when I
> > imported a file from Lightroom. I assume they have fixed that by now.
> >
> > But the utter deal-killer was that although you can configure it as an
> > external editor to Lightroom and it will import a layered TIFF, it
> > cannot write a layered TIFF (or a PSD) back to Lightroom. So if I used
> > it as an external editor I lost all my carefully constructed layers
> > when the file was flattened to save it back. That is 100% useless to
> > me as my files often make a few round trips to the external editor
> > while I make revisions, or in the case of long retouch, save
> > checkpoints or continue editing later on.
> >
> > This is till the case as far as I can tell from googling.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:31 AM Mark Roberts
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 7:03 AM Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Other developers are improving their products too, so essentially, if 
> >>>> they can do now what CS6 can do, it's what I need it for.
> >>>
> >>> I can say with assurance that they do not. The majority of these
> >>> products are going after the Lightroom market
> >>
> >> Affinity Photo is not going after Lightroom, it's definitely a
> >> Photoshop replacement. I have it and it's *very* good. Probably a step
> >> up from Photoshop CS6.
> >>
> >> --
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> >> www.robertstech.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: Nuts to Adobe

[Bruce Walker]

I'm certainly willing to update my opinion about Affinity's
capabilities, but I was unable to complete a review of it myself when
I tested their final beta a couple of years ago.

The first issue I had was completely wacky colour shifts when I
imported a file from Lightroom. I assume they have fixed that by now.

But the utter deal-killer was that although you can configure it as an
external editor to Lightroom and it will import a layered TIFF, it
cannot write a layered TIFF (or a PSD) back to Lightroom. So if I used
it as an external editor I lost all my carefully constructed layers
when the file was flattened to save it back. That is 100% useless to
me as my files often make a few round trips to the external editor
while I make revisions, or in the case of long retouch, save
checkpoints or continue editing later on.

This is till the case as far as I can tell from googling.


On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:31 AM Mark Roberts
 wrote:
>
> Bruce Walker wrote:
>
> >On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 7:03 AM Jostein Øksne  wrote:
> >>
> >> Other developers are improving their products too, so essentially, if they 
> >> can do now what CS6 can do, it's what I need it for.
> >
> >I can say with assurance that they do not. The majority of these
> >products are going after the Lightroom market
>
> Affinity Photo is not going after Lightroom, it's definitely a
> Photoshop replacement. I have it and it's *very* good. Probably a step
> up from Photoshop CS6.
>
> --
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> www.robertstech.com
>
>
>
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Re: Nuts to Adobe

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On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 7:03 AM Jostein Øksne  wrote:
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> Other developers are improving their products too, so essentially, if they 
> can do now what CS6 can do, it's what I need it for.

I can say with assurance that they do not. The majority of these
products are going after the Lightroom market, many with the addition
(illusion) of layers. You will not find the rich feature set and
general image processing capabilities of even Ps CS2 in them. And if
you have any plugins, like Nik, they won't work. Little finesses like
"flow" for brushes is missing from the only app I know that manages to
clone many (though not even 25% of) Photoshop's features: The Gimp.

I searched for and tested a lot of software after Adobe went
subscription with the goal of replacing Lr and Ps. I gave up. I need
the power of both of them.

If you don't then I suggest trying The Gimp as it's free,
multi-platform, and quite powerful.

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Re: Nuts to Adobe

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Jostein, I just have to say it: the best advanced editor available is
Photoshop.

After recent Mac OS X updates started to erode my CS5 enough to be
troublesome, I finally gave in and subscribed to CC. It has been, for me,
worthwhile. Lightroom integrates better with Ps, both are speedier, and Ps
has seen some feature additions that are extremely useful and powerful for
me. Time saved in retouching; more convincing and accurate editing --
especially in the area of selections -- and much better handling of huge
645Z files, for example. The Content Aware healing brush is magical.

I was one of the last holdouts. My copy of CS5 and my old Lightroom owed me
nothing. I strongly dislike the subscription model still, but I'm not going
to cut off my nose to spite my face. Being a self-righteous dogmatic
curmudgeon has its downsides.


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> Thanks P.J.
> The only reason that keeps me from playing with editors like
> RawTherapee, DxO, C1 (or Corel AfterShot, for that matter), is that they
> are not good DAMs. The true strength of Lightroom is exactly that. It
> combines good archiving, basic raw file editing, and good integration
> with specialist editors like Zerene Stacker for macro, Photomatix for
> HDR and Autopano for mosaics. It also supports management of images
> published to social media and my own website.
>
> The only piece in the puzzle that has fallen out is the _advanced_ image
> editing option. That's what I need a Photoshop replacement for.
>
> Jostein
>
> Den 27.10.2018 02:52, skrev P. J. Alling:
> > Look into RawTherapee it does a nice job, and it's Free, well they ask
> > for a donation, but it's essentially free.  I did manage to crash it,
> > but it does make nice renders.  It also seems to support every current
> > Camera.  I'm not using it, but it's become my current backup if DxO Mark
> > pisses me off as much as Adobe has.
> >
> >
> > On 10/26/2018 4:43 PM, Jostein wrote:
> >> After a harddrive replacement a good year ago, Photoshop CS6 has kept
> >> nagging me for its license key every time I open the program. All
> >> online suggestions for fixing have been tried to no avail.
> >>
> >> So, now I'm thinking it's time to move on. CS6 is getting old, and the
> >> UI does not scale well on larger screen resolutions. But a CC
> >> subscription is not an option.
> >>
> >> Anyone on the list using Corel Paintshop Pro or Affinity Photo?
> >> - I'd love to hear your experiences. :-)
> >>
> >> Jostein
> >>
> >
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Re: GESO: more butterflies

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All beautiful, Subash. I'd add a little mid tones contrast boost and
desaturate the background a touch, but the pastel colours and soft
background in all of them works really well.

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> some more butterflies:
>
> http://something-feathered.in/2018/09/27/more-butterflies/
>
> k5iis and the DAL 50-200 WR
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Re: First Try in My Budget Tabletop Studio

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Really digging the mid 1990's web design there, Dale. Quite in keeping
with the vintage content. :-)

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 8:53 PM Dale H. Cook
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>
> I finally got my tabletop studio going. [...]
>
> https://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/radios/pages/gr-dec.html#1490b

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Re: OT: Instagram

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Non-compete contract clauses are usually only for a year or two. You
couldn't enforce one beyond that as employment lawyers would
successfully show they impair the executive's ability to make a
living.

Now, maybe they had stock options that vested over 5 or 6 years.
That's kind of long too (3 years is usual) but possible considering
the amount of money involved.

Neither of these were mentioned in the tech press though.


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>
> Most developers are independent types, they more or less began the high
> movement low loyalty workplace.  Mainly because they're smart enough to
> realize that most employers care less about them than they do about the
> furniture.  Zuckerberg, seems to be loyal to his friends, at least while
> they're valuable to him, but would treat the rest of his employees with
> a certain level of contempt.  They probably had contracts, that
> guaranteed them employment and pay for a number of years, that kept them
> from competing in their chosen field of endeavor,  which are now up, and
> they left as soon as they legally could.
>
> On 9/25/2018 1:54 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > I'm surprised they lasted 6 years at FB. Entrepreneurial types are
> > generally allergic to large corporations, and dealing with FB
> > "optimizing" the app in order to clobber the competition, Snapchat,
> > and fine tuning the thing to maximize ad revenue at the expense of it
> > being, well, actually interesting, would frustrate anyone.
> >
> > Personally I doubt those two will ever produce anything really money
> > making again. I think they just got lucky with Instagram. They will
> > pour lots of dough into multiple startups and watch each fizzle. It
> > will take a few lifetimes to blow though the 1 billion they received
> > though, so I'm sure they'll have fun doing it.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:42 PM Daniel J. Matyola  
> > wrote:
> >> The creators of Instagram apparently are unhappy with the way Facebook is
> >> handling the app.
> >> http://www.theweek.co.uk/96699/why-instagram-founders-are-leaving-facebook-owned-app
> >> ?
> >>
> >> Dan Matyola
> >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 8:30 PM Mark Roberts 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Facebook without words.
> >>> That sounds pretty good, actually.
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Re: OT: Discovering the Origin of The Origin of the World

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Who will be the first to claim Sonorous Interiors as the title of a
photo book, likely published by Goliath or Taschen?

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 2:30 PM Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> https://www.afp.com/en/news/206/mystery-arts-most-scandalous-picture-revealed-doc-19d7it3
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Re: OT: Instagram

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I'm surprised they lasted 6 years at FB. Entrepreneurial types are
generally allergic to large corporations, and dealing with FB
"optimizing" the app in order to clobber the competition, Snapchat,
and fine tuning the thing to maximize ad revenue at the expense of it
being, well, actually interesting, would frustrate anyone.

Personally I doubt those two will ever produce anything really money
making again. I think they just got lucky with Instagram. They will
pour lots of dough into multiple startups and watch each fizzle. It
will take a few lifetimes to blow though the 1 billion they received
though, so I'm sure they'll have fun doing it.

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>
> The creators of Instagram apparently are unhappy with the way Facebook is
> handling the app.
> http://www.theweek.co.uk/96699/why-instagram-founders-are-leaving-facebook-owned-app
> ?
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 8:30 PM Mark Roberts 
> wrote:
>
> > Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >
> > >Facebook without words.
> >
> > That sounds pretty good, actually.
> >
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Re: OT: Instagram

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The encouragement is not so much from "Instagram the app" -- into
which you can toss whatever you darned well please -- but "Instagram
the marketing vehicle and popularity contest".

It is touted by enthusiasts as a way to get your work noticed (and so
make yourself more marketable), but to do that you find you have to
create work that is popular on IG, and that leads to a silly circular
feedback loop with everyone producing the same muck.

If you just want to share your work conveniently with a few friends
and family, it works just fine for that.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:04 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
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> Who gives a rat's patootie what Instagram "encourages"? I do what I want, and 
> if I can't display it on Instagram, well, I won't use Instagram... :-)
>
> G
> —
> No matter where you go, you'll piss off the idiots if you tell them they're 
> idiots.
>
> > On Sep 24, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> >
> > uh huh
> >
> >> On 9/23/18 8:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >> Since Instagram encourages a tedious homogeneity of heavily tinted and
> >> HDR'ed landscapes and portraits with out-of-focus faery lights, if
> >> nobody on Instagram is digging your work, you are likely on the right
> >> track. :-)
> >
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Re: OT: Instagram

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Since Instagram encourages a tedious homogeneity of heavily tinted and
HDR'ed landscapes and portraits with out-of-focus faery lights, if
nobody on Instagram is digging your work, you are likely on the right
track. :-)

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 7:37 PM Doug Brewer  wrote:
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> Watching my new work tank so spectacularly is kind of awesome, though.
>
> On 9/23/18 3:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > I post there, though I'm damned if I know why I bother. I dislike
> > pretty much everything about Instagram.
> >
> > If you use Lightroom, consider using the LR/Instagram plugin as it
> > eases a few of IG's annoyances. Most notably, it enables you to post
> > directly from Lightroom, and it solves the IG stupid arbitrary crops
> > by letterboxing.
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Re: OT: Instagram

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I post there, though I'm damned if I know why I bother. I dislike
pretty much everything about Instagram.

If you use Lightroom, consider using the LR/Instagram plugin as it
eases a few of IG's annoyances. Most notably, it enables you to post
directly from Lightroom, and it solves the IG stupid arbitrary crops
by letterboxing.

https://www.lrinstagram.com/


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> Does anyone here use Instagram for images?
>
> I had never tried it.  At a recent meeting of tyhe Princeton Mac Users
> Group, however, there was a presentation on saving and sharing images
> through Instagram, so I though I would give it a try.  What appealed to me
> was the apparently quick and easy way to take an iPhone image and upload it
> quickly to FaceBook Through Instagram.
>
> Las Sunday I was at the airport early in the morning helping to set up for
> our charitable Motorcycle Ride and Fly event.  I noticed that I was casting
> a macroscian shadow and snapped a quick image.  I then  uploaded the image
> to both Instagram and Facebook using the Instagram app on my iPhone.  The
> result was a disaster.
>
> Here is the original image from my iPhone:
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/dans-pesos/2018/9/23/shadow
>
> Here is the image as posted on FaceBook via Instagram:
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/dans-pesos/2018/9/23/headless-shadow
>
> Notice any difference?
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Re: Fall Meadowlark

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Nicely done, Jack! Great pose, light and colour.
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 4:02 PM Jack Davis  wrote:
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>
>
> Out this AM to check Refuge readiness. Flooding well underway in most.
>
> Attaching another Meadowlark. Difficult to resist, especially when hearing 
> their glorious song.
>
> The mass migration not locally available. Bit too early.
>
>
> C?
>
> thanks!
>
>
> K3ll/150-450
>
>
> TAV:, Shutter 1/3200, AP f8. ISO Auto
>
>
> Bright sun.
>
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Re: The importance of hardware updates

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That is a pretty clear sign that you could use a computer upgrade.
Just suggestin'  :-)


On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:01 PM Alan C  wrote:
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> OK if your computer is USB3. I'm still stuck in USB2.
>
> Alan C
>
> On 20-Sep-18 07:51 PM, Bill wrote:
> > Several years ago, probably when the K10 or k20 came out, Sandisk had
> > a deal where SD cards were being packaged with little USB card
> > readers. I've been using them ever since, and, of course, getting
> > longer and longer transfer times when moving image files to my computer.
> > I finally decided enough was enough and bought myself a USB 3 card
> > reader.
> > Holy cow!!
> > The new reader is something like 6 times faster.
> > I'm very good about upgrading computers, I've done a computer upgrade
> > every other camera, but peripherals like card readers not so much.
> >
> > that's all.
> >
> > bill
> >
> >
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Re: GESO - soft and hard

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Lucky thing that you aren't working at either of them anymore. :-)

Glad you enjoyed!
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 6:15 PM P. J. Alling  wrote:
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> None of those are safe for work, a couple of places that I used to work,
> enjoyable but not safe for work...
>
>
> On 9/18/2018 9:09 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > ... light, that is.
> >
> > I recently got the opportunity to rent my favourite studio as a shared
> > space (shared with four other photographers month-by-month), so I jumped at
> > it. This has had the effect of kicking my lazy butt into the studio every
> > week. So far the results have been fine.
> >
> > I have been pursuing two main themes of hard light drama and soft light
> > portraits. Here are some ...
> >
> > A portrait of Whitney (sfw)
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I5QBIlbXFro0
> >
> > Nude study 3 (~sfw)
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IwOnCdjRgix8
> >
> > Reclined (sfw)
> > https://flic.kr/p/29TjJTQ
> >
> > Lingerie study 1 (sfw)
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I3oMRgqzOYRY
> >
> > “Internet access is out — again!” (nsfw)
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I5guPZKQe8SQ
> >
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
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Re: GESO - soft and hard

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Hey, Steve; thank you!

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 1:02 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 19/9/18, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >> > Nude study 3 (~sfw)
> >> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IwOnCdjRgix8
>
> This is excellent mate.
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Re: GESO - soft and hard

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I really appreciate that, Dan. Thank you!

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:05 PM Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> For some reason your links lead me to small sized images, and I couldn't
> get the larger versions.  So, instead I simply went to the main gallery.
>
> It is an amazing collection of alluring and compelling images, with more
> than a little good natured humor.  You have really become quite adept at
> figure photography.  Quite impressive .
>
> Dan Matyola
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>
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:10 AM Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
> > ... light, that is.
> >
> > I recently got the opportunity to rent my favourite studio as a shared
> > space (shared with four other photographers month-by-month), so I jumped at
> > it. This has had the effect of kicking my lazy butt into the studio every
> > week. So far the results have been fine.
> >
> > I have been pursuing two main themes of hard light drama and soft light
> > portraits. Here are some ...
> >
> > A portrait of Whitney (sfw)
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I5QBIlbXFro0
> >
> > Nude study 3 (~sfw)
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IwOnCdjRgix8
> >
> > Reclined (sfw)
> > https://flic.kr/p/29TjJTQ
> >
> > Lingerie study 1 (sfw)
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I3oMRgqzOYRY
> >
> > “Internet access is out — again!” (nsfw)
> > https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I5guPZKQe8SQ
> >
> >
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GESO - soft and hard

[Bruce Walker]

... light, that is.

I recently got the opportunity to rent my favourite studio as a shared
space (shared with four other photographers month-by-month), so I jumped at
it. This has had the effect of kicking my lazy butt into the studio every
week. So far the results have been fine.

I have been pursuing two main themes of hard light drama and soft light
portraits. Here are some ...

A portrait of Whitney (sfw)
https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I5QBIlbXFro0

Nude study 3 (~sfw)
https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IwOnCdjRgix8

Reclined (sfw)
https://flic.kr/p/29TjJTQ

Lingerie study 1 (sfw)
https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I3oMRgqzOYRY

“Internet access is out — again!” (nsfw)
https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I5guPZKQe8SQ


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Testing

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I have for the most part been lurking, but I seem to either not be receiving 
mail from the list or to have been unintentionally unsubscribed.

Could someone reply to me off-list and let me know if this is getting there?

Do I need to wave the sacrificial chicken again?

In other news recently purchased a new (to me) M42 55mm and 135mm and hope to
soon give them a real try out on the K1000.

(I also got an H2 body but it appears to have issues with its poor little
shutter :-(  )

Thanks,
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Re: 3rd place

[Bruce Walker]

Well done! Beautiful light in that scene. Lovely mood.


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> Put in this pic from the grandfather mtn area for a small photog
> contest, won 3rd place.
>
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Re: This is EFFED-UP!

[Bruce Walker]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:05 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
> While I understand all the problems and sympathize to the people
> experiencing it, the recurrence of them gives me an impression that people
> have some sort of masochistic pleasure from experiencing these problems.

Well, you _are_ addressing a group of long-time Pentax users.

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Re: OT: Finally some GOOD news from the internet

[Bruce Walker]

On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 9:00 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Bob W-PDML wrote:
>
>>Extra bonus: I have no idea what a fluid ounce is, and not enough capacity 
>>left in my head to hold that information.
>
> Well it's obvious: A fluid ounce is 1/20th of a pint. Except in the
> U.S. where it's 1/16th of a pint. A fluid ounce is the same in the
> States and the UK about 30 ml) but a UK pint is 20 oz and a US pint is
> 16 (and a UK gallon is correspondingly larger than a US gallon.

I'm glad that photography isn't that bewildering.

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Re: An amuzing Kickstarter: Instax Square with your Pentax, Nikon, Leica, etc.

[Bruce Walker]

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on 6/12/18 9:15 AM:
>>
>> I'm always entertained by silly photo stuff that might make interesting
>> photographs.
>>
>> Got a Nikon, Leica M, Pentax, Olympus, or whatever film camera taking up
>> space on your shelf? These guys are working on a back replacement that will
>> allow you to shoot Fujifilm Instax Square instant film with it.
>>
>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ninmlab/instant-magny-35-an-instant-back-for-135-slr-and-r
>>
>> Ground floor pledges for some cameras are still available at about $100. I
>> hope they make their funding and actually produce the gizmo; it would be
>> fun. :)
>
> Interesting.  I'm guessing 2-3 stops loss of light due to the greater
> magnification ( don't know the size of the instant film ) and a fair amount
> of loss of detail due to the optics to get the image to the instant film.
> It seems that big thing hanging off the back of the camera would make things
> rather awkward to hold, or even see through the viewfinder.  But, apart from
> ease of use and image quality, that looks like it could be fun.

Instax square film is 2.4 inches on a side.

They claim that light loss is 3 stops so you treat the ISO 800 film as
ISO 100 to get correct exposure. The attachment also flips the image
because of that internal mirror. The front surface mirror is supposed
to be super reflective and clear.

The internal optics limits max aperture to f/4.

I have to wonder about the viewfinder issue, too, Larry. Looks like a
problem to me.

Cute but pointless, imho. Won't stop them from reaching their
Kickstarter target though! :-)

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Re: Studio Strobes for Pentax

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On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 7:21 PM, John  wrote:
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> I would like the option of HSS.
>
> I was kind of looking for ideas on what those shooting in studio with Pentax
> are using. Right now, it's really idle curiosity, because I don't know if
> I'll ever be able to set up a studio.

HSS is _completely_ useless in the studio. Well, perhaps also in a
brightly sunlit studio, which I have encountered a few times. The
645Z's 1/125th sec sync speed makes that tricky sometimes.

HSS is mainly of use outside in the sun with underpowered flashes.
Using efficient modifiers (read: silver coated) and at least 500
watt-second strobes you can overpower the sun without needing HSS.

There are 3rd party HSS solutions out there that work with Pentax.
I'll leave it to you to Google it up. :-) They all sound iffy and
klugey to me and I decided to pass on the whole thing.

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Re: Studio Strobes for Pentax

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I am using a fairly extensive Paul C Buff kit, John. I have four 640
watt-seconds Einsteins. I have a bunch of PCB modifiers including the
5' strips, a 5' silver parabolic (PLM), beauty dish, reflectors, barn
doors, and grids. I also have a Vagabond battery inverter so I can go
on location for a few hours if I need to. Also useful for firing a
strobe from outside through a window to mimic sunlight in a room.

I trigger, control, and meter the whole shebang with the Cyber
Commander and CyberSync receivers. I can meter my lights individually,
in groups or all together then remotely adjust power levels also
individually or groups/all no matter if they are twelve feet up in an
umbrella on a boom. It's way better than climbing a ladder or dropping
the boom down to make adjustments.

The light meter is builtin to the Cyber Commander. It's the niftiest
setup around and AFAICT unique to Buff.

The rental studio I work from is a Paul C Buff shop, very handily.
They have a ton of modifiers that I don't, like 4x8' softboxes, 7'
silver umbrella, 5' octas, more barn doors and gels, etc. And more
lights. Second last shoot I needed five lights so I used my four and
rented one.

If you want to start small I would recommend you get one of their
CyberBees. LED modelling lamp also works for video. Very
cost-effective. Modifiers can be sourced on eBay if you really want to
save money. Anything that fits Balcar or Alien Bees will work.

BTW, I now and then use my gear at home in the family room as a
makeshift studio for headshots and portraits. You don't need to get
fancy to have a "studio". One light, a hunk of 5' wide seamless taped
to the wall, a DIY reflector (foamcore or styofoam insulation from the
big box hardware store). My local studio gives me seamless paper when
the roll hits 12 feet left because it's no use to him then. (Needs to
be enough to create a sweep.)



On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 7:21 PM, John  wrote:
> And indeed, another Earthlink Email was rejected by "spameatingmonkey".
>
> Second attempt:
>
> On 6/10/2018 21:32, Bruce Walker wrote:
>
>> John, assuming you mean "what options do you have for using his gear
>> during the course", your Pentax gear will work just fine with the
>> Profoto kit, fully manual operation only.
>>
>
>  I already figured out the xTTL only works with the dedicated controller.
> I'm not looking for xTTL, just a way to remotely change power levels
> independently.
>
>>
>> HSS has its uses like overpowering the sun outdoors, but I'm okay with
>> using an ND filter instead.
>>
>> If you are looking for gear recommendation for you to buy afterward, I
>> have opinions there too. :-)
>>
>
> I would like the option of HSS.
>
> I was kind of looking for ideas on what those shooting in studio with Pentax
> are using. Right now, it's really idle curiosity, because I don't know if
> I'll ever be able to set up a studio.
>
>
>
>
>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 8:48 PM, John  wrote:
>>> I'm taking a class on lighting this week with Tony Corbell. He's using
>>> Profoto Air TTL and the Profoto strobes (A1, B1, B1X & D1). Great if
>>> you're
>>> a Nikon or Canon shooter.
>>>
>>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/browse/Profoto/ci/7757/N/4232859328
>>>
>>> But what options are there if you're a Pentax shooter like me?
>
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Re: Studio Strobes for Pentax

[Bruce Walker]

John, assuming you mean "what options do you have for using his gear
during the course", your Pentax gear will work just fine with the
Profoto kit, fully manual operation only.

Neither xTTL or HSS features will work but that's 100% okay since Tony
Corbell is an old school guy and he teaches flash metering and manual
strobe settings.  The Air remotes allow manual triggering and full
remote control -- on/off, power levels, modelling lamps, etc. -- from
your hotshoe.

Like Larry, I have no use for xTTL in studio strobes. It relies too
much on luck; it meters by reflected light while I believe strongly in
measuring incident light; and subject movement within the studio space
can alter the results.

HSS has its uses like overpowering the sun outdoors, but I'm okay with
using an ND filter instead.

If you are looking for gear recommendation for you to buy afterward, I
have opinions there too. :-)


On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 8:48 PM, John  wrote:
> I'm taking a class on lighting this week with Tony Corbell. He's using
> Profoto Air TTL and the Profoto strobes (A1, B1, B1X & D1). Great if you're
> a Nikon or Canon shooter.
>
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/browse/Profoto/ci/7757/N/4232859328
>
> But what options are there if you're a Pentax shooter like me?
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Re: PESO that smile

[Bruce Walker]

Agreed!  Genuine emotion in those, Larry.


On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Jostein  wrote:
> Contagious!
> Jostein
>
> Den 10.06.2018 20:58, skrev Larry Colen:
>>
>> A couple weeks ago I met Talecia at a party. She had such an amazing smile
>> I *had* to photograph her. Fortunately she was easy to convince, and even
>> better has an amazing presence in front of the camera. Our favorite photo
>> from the set was actually taken while joking around between poses:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/40907779050/in/album-72157669979657408/
>>
>> K-1, FA 80-200, black backdrop with gelled strobes on it for color.
>> Softbox key to the left, gridded horizontal striplight to the right for
>> fill.
>>
>> She loves B photography, so I did a bunch of them in black and white,
>> which are at the end of the set.  For those that want to see more of this
>> lovely lady the full set is at:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157669979657408
>>
>> Warning, a couple of the photos are borderline NSFW
>>
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Re: PESO contemplation

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I suppose it is. I quite often specifically mark the few ones that
_aren't_ as SFW. ;-)  Actually, quite a few of my recent shots are
safe, particularly from this set.

Thanks, Dan!


On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 4:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Very nice.
>
> Isn't it a bit redundant to label YOUR pesos "NSFW"?
>
> Dan Matyola
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> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
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>> Evoking a dreamy Rembrandt vibe. A little NSFW though.
>>
>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IihW2dlH.6fk
>>
>> 645z, 150mm/2.8 at f/5.6, 1/125th sec, 100 iso.
>> A teensy bit of Lightroom editing.
>>
>> Enjoy responsibly!

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PESO contemplation

[Bruce Walker]

Evoking a dreamy Rembrandt vibe. A little NSFW though.

https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IihW2dlH.6fk

645z, 150mm/2.8 at f/5.6, 1/125th sec, 100 iso.
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Re: PDML Annual

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On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> l...@red4est.com wrote:
>>On June 9, 2018 10:49:14 AM PDT, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>>On 9/6/18, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>
Damned by faint anxiety.  Cotty's clearly a spent force.
>>>
>>>On it like a bonnet.
>>
>>That comment went over my head.
>
> Time to hang up your hat then.

I'm sure we are all brimming with rejoinders to that.

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Re: PESO+PESO -- KOZ

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Thank you, Paul.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 7:27 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Beautiful!
>
> Paul
>
>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 7:19 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>
>> It was a very good morning. I shot with "KOZ", a Quebec native model,
>> dancer and pole dancer (she was in Toronto for a pro-level competition
>> and came in second) this morning. I returned to my work inspired by
>> Vincent Peters and Jean-Francois Jonvelle. And a bit of Ralph Gibson.
>>
>> _Technically_ safe for work.
>>
>> Skirt
>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IiypCx.XMVEs
>>
>> Pointe
>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IKTdlRnr9g40
>>
>> Both shot with the 645z, FA 150mm/2.8 (newly acquired). Minimal
>> processing in Lightroom. No retouching.
>>
>> Enjoy!
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PESO+PESO -- KOZ

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It was a very good morning. I shot with "KOZ", a Quebec native model,
dancer and pole dancer (she was in Toronto for a pro-level competition
and came in second) this morning. I returned to my work inspired by
Vincent Peters and Jean-Francois Jonvelle. And a bit of Ralph Gibson.

_Technically_ safe for work.

Skirt
https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IiypCx.XMVEs

Pointe
https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IKTdlRnr9g40

Both shot with the 645z, FA 150mm/2.8 (newly acquired). Minimal
processing in Lightroom. No retouching.

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Re: Where do you post your critter pictures?

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All of my photos of equines can be found in a Flickr album located in the
vicinity of:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/losthalo/albums/72157646881959603

There are a few critters in here as well:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/losthalo/albums/72157662402122589

I have thus far resisted the urge to post all of my "D'a" cat and dog
photos to the internets...

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Re: PESO - outlines

[Bruce Walker]

Thank you, Dan!

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
<danmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting project, with images that are quite artistic.
>
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much, Don! I'm editing the rest of the set now. Some
>> more variety in projections and colours coming.
>>
>> And thank you to all who looked and commented.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Donald Guthrie <shark50...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > You are on to something there for sure. Darn near perfect is my take.
>> > Looking forward to seeing more of this style.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Message: 7
>> >> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 20:00:10 -0400
>> >> From: Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com>
>> >> To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List <PDML@pdml.net>
>> >> Subject: PESO - outlines
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>
>> >> <cajuu0cfvly+hwg1fme8bt3-44bzpqewx8-niaxkd_p76wze...@mail.gmail.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> >>
>> >> I am adding to my Outlines project with results of working with
>> >> another model/dancer, Muirina Fae.
>> >>
>> >> note: nsfw
>> >>
>> >> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ITb2MbiN5o5M
>> >>
>> >> 645z, 90mm/2.8 macro at f/8, 1/125th sec, 200 iso.  Post just in
>> >> Lightroom Classic CC.
>> >>
>> >> Hope you like.
>> >>
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Re: PESO - outlines

[Bruce Walker]

Thank you very much, Don! I'm editing the rest of the set now. Some
more variety in projections and colours coming.

And thank you to all who looked and commented.


On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Donald Guthrie <shark50...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are on to something there for sure. Darn near perfect is my take.
> Looking forward to seeing more of this style.
>
>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 20:00:10 -0400
>> From: Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com>
>> To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List <PDML@pdml.net>
>> Subject: PESO - outlines
>> Message-ID:
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>> <cajuu0cfvly+hwg1fme8bt3-44bzpqewx8-niaxkd_p76wze...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> I am adding to my Outlines project with results of working with
>> another model/dancer, Muirina Fae.
>>
>> note: nsfw
>>
>> https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ITb2MbiN5o5M
>>
>> 645z, 90mm/2.8 macro at f/8, 1/125th sec, 200 iso.  Post just in
>> Lightroom Classic CC.
>>
>> Hope you like.
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Re: Wrapping up UK trip 2018

[Bruce Walker]

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Mark Roberts
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>
> But I think it will be worth the wait. At least if you like photos of sheep.

Ewe know it!

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PESO - outlines

[Bruce Walker]

I am adding to my Outlines project with results of working with
another model/dancer, Muirina Fae.

note: nsfw

https://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ITb2MbiN5o5M

645z, 90mm/2.8 macro at f/8, 1/125th sec, 200 iso.  Post just in
Lightroom Classic CC.

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Re: PESO - lady in red

[Bruce Walker]

Thanks, Jack.

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:00 PM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm with Bruce!
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 19, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce Walker wrote:
>>> This for me is a rare image on two counts: subject is clothed, and the
>>> shot is unretouched.
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/41480140124/lightbox/
>>
>> I'm looking forward to seeing more from the shoot, but I'm afraid this one 
>> just doesn't work for me. The subject herself is just so dark compared to 
>> the background that even the red is hard to see.  The model looks lively, 
>> the pose/shape she made against the background is pleasing, but the only 
>> thing that seems easy to see is the bright background.
>>
>>
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Re: PESO - lady in red

[Bruce Walker]

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:29 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
>
> Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> This for me is a rare image on two counts: subject is clothed, and the
>> shot is unretouched.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/41480140124/lightbox/
>
>
> I'm looking forward to seeing more from the shoot, but I'm afraid this one
> just doesn't work for me. The subject herself is just so dark compared to
> the background that even the red is hard to see.  The model looks lively,
> the pose/shape she made against the background is pleasing, but the only
> thing that seems easy to see is the bright background.

I appreciate hearing your reactions, Larry.

My intent was for the model's shape and pose to be largely in
silhouette and have the spotlight pick out her eyes. So the darkness
is intentional.

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PESO - lady in red

[Bruce Walker]

This for me is a rare image on two counts: subject is clothed, and the
shot is unretouched.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/41480140124/lightbox/

I wanted to try out something more sophisticated than I have tried
before. I put together projected shapes (a white horizontal bar), gels
(red and blue from left and right), and a all-white background. That
required five strobes -- one more than I even own so I had to rent
one.

I carefully metered out everything, I let the makeup artist have all
the time she needed and the result is I was able to get this shot with
just slight Lightroom slider adjustments, mainly exposure and
contrast.

Model is Muirina Fae from Victoria BC.
She is wearing a red latex catsuit, bustier and cincher from Artifice Clothing.

645z, 90mm/2.8 at f/8, 1/125th sec, 200 iso.

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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2018 - Stunning

[Bruce Walker]

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:31 AM, Bill <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/18/2018 10:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> Part 2 of my comments on the annual.
>>
[...]
>>
>> I'm PISSED because Bruce Walker produced not only a great portrait study
>> but slipped a nip slip past the censors and named it Slip creating a
>> wonderful pun and double entendre.
>
> He didn't slip it past us, we Photoshopped it in.

You scoundrels! No wonder my reputation is in disarray.

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