Re: OT - Coll video

2009-01-20 Thread Luiz Felipe
Had problems to get the first file, but watched easily in Linux (Kurumin 
NG, Kubuntu - based BR distro) will test again today in M$ trash - er, 
Windows...


Codecs may give even the best system a bad time. I usually get K Lite 
codec packs for Windows, but there is always some issue. Problem is, 
after some software trials Windows may get yet less stable.


Didn't try to watch the video online, since my home Net provider is 
rather cheap and speed very, very low, but will try it from the office asap.


LF

Peter Alling escreveu:
If I try to run it from the browser I get sound but no picture.  I'm downloading it now to to try to view it in a different player.  


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From: Cotty 
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On 19/1/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:



Would love to watch it, but my computer doesn't like it...
  

Try the AVI file Frank...

<http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/video.html>

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Re: PESO - attempt at B/W conversion

2009-01-19 Thread Luiz Felipe
Jostein, for some artifact from the past to be found, it takes two - it 
needs to survive, and someone needs to find it. Then it's more likely to 
be labeled as fertility token or religious sculpture. Assuming the next 
race will give a damn about the previous ones...


Give it enough time, even our radioactive dumpster is going to disappear.

LF

AlunFoto escreveu:

Peter, your initial argument was that few humans live where
fossilisation takes place. I argue that many of our artifacts are
deposited in places that do favour fossilisation. And I would say that
shipwrecks in particular are prone to fossilisation because of the
amount of detritus that rains down on them. Many wrecks will be
covered in oxygen free mud long before they have had time to rot or
rust, and then will have reasonable probability of reaching the fossil
record. From echo sounding in eg. the Black Sea, we know that human
artefacts are already preserved that way in the form of drowned
settlements. In the Scandinavian countries, there are still untouched
bronze-age burial mounds that do contain wooden ships preserved in
peat, along with weaponry, jewelry and tools. In Denmark, nearly
perfect specimens of stone-age people have been unearthed from
marshlands which, incidentally, would also be likely candidates for
future fossilisation.

In short, I think you're overly pessimistic. The abundance of our
species across the face of this planet is so extensive that
fossilisation of enough artefacts to make a mark in history is more
likely than not.

Another matter is that future geologists will find sliver-thin strata
in the sediments that are nearly saturated with non-natural chemical
contaminants such as dioxins or moderately soluble mercury salts. And
if they're lucky they'll stumble upon some very unlikely deposits of
highly concentrated plutonium in concrete. That should be a good
puzzle for them , but I think you know what I mean.

Jostein

2009/1/19 Peter Alling :
  

In a few million years the pyramids will be weathered to less than hillocks; iron, even 
stainless steel, will oxidize to dust; micro-organisms will have eaten rubber and 
plastic; glass will have been smoothed to pebbles;  little recognizable as an artifact 
will remain.  For example not too long ago, it seems that a couple of Ford Truck 
sparkplugs from the 1920's were initially misidentified as "geoids".  The 
earth's crust is very active, and the biosphere even more so.


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From: Bob Sullivan 
Sent: Jan 19, 2009 6:55 AM
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Subject: Re: PESO - attempt at B/W conversion

Jostein,
Our garbage dumps will be a treasure trove for future records of our existance.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:03 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:
  

While human bodies stand little chance of fossilising, many of our
cultural artefacts do. Structures such as pyramids, concrete, cast
iron, shipwrecks in mud, etc, etc. We started out pondering whether a
civilisation could have existed before the emergence of humans. I
would argue that any such civilisation would have been discovered by
fossilised remains of their artefacts. It is of course possible to
imagine an intelligent species not building anything to support their
existence, but that defies the definition of civilisation, doesn't it.

On an eerie sidenote, I suspect human civilisation's largest
contribution to a future fossil record will be fossilised garbage...
:-(

Jostein

2009/1/19 Luiz Felipe :


Peter, I saw "Stan" (a T-Rex fossil) at Disney's Animal Kingdom and the
folks at the exibition told me how few specimens existed. It's a very
difficult puzzle indeed.

There are lots of unexplained artifacts from pre-historic ages that suggest
mankind did have a former civilization that vanished in some global
catastrophe, leaving scattered groups with tales of destruction by flood and
fire. We usually regard our achievements as important, but if mankind
disappeared the next tenants would have little to remember us.

LF

Peter Alling escreveu:
  

On a serious note, most people don't realize how little of the fossil
record actually exists.  I think the entire T-Rex species is known from
fewer than 100 individuals with only a half a dozen considered "nearly
complete", representing several hundred thousand years of the species'
existence.  The amount of time that hominids an entire group of mammalian
species have been on earth is less time than the existence of that one
species of dinosaur was.  If the same amount of time elapsed between the
rise of a new intelligent creature and our demise, as between us and the
dinosaurs, I doubt enough would exist of our works to show that we were tool
users.  In fact though there are an awful lot of us, I doubt there would be
many surviving fossils, as most of us live in areas not conducive to fossil
formation.

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Re: PESO - attempt at B/W conversion

2009-01-19 Thread Luiz Felipe
Possible, previous human or non-human civilizations alike, our 
understanding of the past is flawed, IMHO. I wouldn't pretend to have 
real knowledge about the matter, but have read about some archaeological 
findings that were reexamined after a long time of their discovery and 
acquired a possible new role, a fairly advanced technological one. Like 
fragments of ceramic and metals that would be an ancient battery, a 
wooden sculpture of a stylish hawk that is said to glide as perfectly as 
modern scale planes, and others.


Our knowledge gets thinner as we move into the past. Many things may 
happen in 50.000 years - many things may have happened and we may never 
know based on how little evidence actually survives such small 
(planetary scale here) time span. Just remember anything big enough to 
wipe out mankind probably would bring great geological changes too. That 
could wipe out coastlines and many important cities and structures.


In low technology areas any metal get re-used as long as possible - the 
tools I throw away in recycle bins here in the city would be gladly 
forged into other utilities, in other places. Plastics and other 
sinthetics are harder to re-use in low tech areas, but burn rather 
easily. How long do you think the survivors of some really important 
catastrophe would take to dismantle the next abandoned small city?


The kind of technology we have today was possible because lots of 
factors were present - and were used by some small number of specific 
individuals in the adequate moment. A human society could survive, being 
isolated and low tech enough to endure. After a time, they may even 
remember the giant waves, or the rains of fire, or how close they were 
to disappear. They would probably find unexplainable ruins, signs of 
former societies, and maybe even recognize those societies as human. But 
do you really think they would understand the difference between our 
banks and churches? I don't believe every toolmaker being is guaranteed 
to develop space travel - and after the right amount of time even our 
space dumpster may get cleaner.


LF


Bob W escreveu:

Peter wrote:
  
that one species of dinosaur was.  If the same amount of time 
elapsed between the rise of a new intelligent creature and 
our demise, as between us and the dinosaurs, I doubt enough 
would exist of our works to show that we were tool users.  In 



fossils already exist in association with stone tools. Assuming we haven't
already dug them all up, if we were to disappear tomorrow I don't see any
great reason why many of the fossils still in the ground shouldn't remain
there for the next 65 million years. In addition, some of our artefacts are
designed to last a long time. For example, the Hoover Dam is supposed to
last as long as the rocks amongst which it is built. There's probably as
much chance of our traces remaining for 65 million years as there was of the
dinosaurs' traces lasting that long.

Luiz wrote:

  
There are lots of unexplained artifacts from pre-historic ages that 
suggest mankind did have a former civilization that vanished in some 
global catastrophe, leaving scattered groups with tales of 
destruction 



I'm late into this conversation, but from the gist of it I think people are
referring to non-human civilisations. 


As far as prehistoric human civilisations go, there are some interesting
peer-reviewed (as opposed to barking mad lunatic Graham Hancock types) books
around - google Richard Rudgley, for example. He is an archaeologist who
shows the transition from prehistoric hunter-gatherers to early
agriculturalists. 


There are also many peoples (it might be a bit a a stretch to describe them
as civilisations) who were destroyed by natural disasters, or barely scraped
through by the skin of their teeth.

By coincidence, I happened to be reading some reviews today of books about
the Black Death of the 14th century. This event killed something like 30% of
the population of the known world, and was described in one of the reviews
as the worst natural disaster ever to strike mankind. However, that is
probably not true as the Toba explosion about 74,000 years ago, which was
the biggest eruption of the last 2 million years, appears to have come close
to making humans extinct, reducing the population to fewer than 10,000
breeding pairs. Stephen Oppenheimer pushes this theory very interestingly in
a number of his books, including Out Of Eden.

Bob

  
by flood and fire. 
We usually regard our achievements as 
important, but 
if mankind disappeared the next tenants would have little to 
remember us.





  

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Peter, I saw "Stan" (a T-Rex fossil) at Disney's Animal 
Kingdom and the 
folks at the e

Re: PESO 2009 - 006 - GDG

2009-01-19 Thread Luiz Felipe
Agree with you about this second version - for me, the first one looks 
better.


I don't use square framing that much, but very often I feel 35mm format 
a little too long - either wide or tall. The photos I took with a 6x7 or 
4.5x6 usually needed less tampering.


LF

Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu:

Thank you, Luis.

I do square framings rather a lot, haven't done it with this one yet 
but it's an interesting thought.


Some folks commented about something punchier, so I took a stab at it. 
I'm not sure if I like it as much, but I'm open to thoughts about it ...


  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/006a-cablesbrick.jpg

To my eye, it's lost some of the delicacy of surface and seems a bit 
heavy handed.


Godfrey


On Jan 18, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Luiz Felipe wrote:

Well, at first I was not sure about that photo. The cable tie fights 
the white paint, somehow... Other than that, I like the light and the 
color. Ever felt like cutting it square, without the tie?


Second look - more like tenth, actually - the image feels better. 
Still think about the square version... but that's just my taste, I'm 
kind of square lately.




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Re: OT - Coll video

2009-01-19 Thread Luiz Felipe

At last!!!

Finished download during the night - a little over 4 hours, from what I 
got waking during the night to check the process. That's what we get 
from el cheapo net providers...


Very interesting film indeed, plenty of great images and very well 
assembled. Soundtrack just perfect for my taste.


Congrats to director, producer(s), camera, lightning, cast, crew...

LF

Luiz Felipe escreveu:
Cotty, I'm trying to download the movie since you posted the message, 
but so far the download never passed 20% - it just hangs there 
endlessly. Trying again right now - hope it works this time.


LF

Cotty escreveu:

At Christmas we spent a week on the Isle of Coll in Scotland. I didn't
shoot hardly any stills, but i did shoot a couple of hours of video.

Here's a 13 minute film called 'Coll' and features some scenery, some
wildlife, some family moments, and more than a little irony with some of
the music

<http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/video.html>

For various reasons it will only be up for a few days from today 17 
January.


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Re: Peso Ice chain in colour

2009-01-18 Thread Luiz Felipe

Make mine color, by a small margin.

LF

David J Brooks escreveu:

Here is the ice chain in colour, for those that asked.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8515017

Heavy overcast sky with pretty decent snow fall happening.

Dave

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Re: PESO 2009 - 006 - GDG

2009-01-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Well, at first I was not sure about that photo. The cable tie fights the 
white paint, somehow... Other than that, I like the light and the color. 
Ever felt like cutting it square, without the tie?


Second look - more like tenth, actually - the image feels better. Still 
think about the square version... but that's just my taste, I'm kind of 
square lately.


LF

Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu:
Went to Juan Buhler's "Street Photography" show opening in San 
Francisco on Friday evening.


I arrived early so spent an hour or so meandering about the 
neighborhood of Hyde, Bush, Pine, and Leavenworth streets, exploring. 
I make quite a few 'details' still life scenes and a number of people 
scenes too, intending to render in B&W.


This one, however, gave me pause to do a color rendering as it was a 
near-wide open shot with the old Pentax M50/1.4 lens. While it's not 
the sharpest photo I've made, the high sensitivity setting lens and 
color give it a textural quality that I'm quite enjoying.


  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/006-cablesbrick.jpg
  "Cables & Brickwork" - San Francisco 2009
  Panasonic G1 + Pentax M50/1.4
  ISO 1000 @ f/2 @ 1/20 sec

Comments always appreciated.

BTW, an excellent show, Juan! Worth the trip for any San Francisco 
area locals to go for a visit. It's at the Shenson Gallery hall in the 
hospital, 900 Hyde Street, San Francisco, CA.


enjoy,
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Re: OT - Coll video

2009-01-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Cotty, I'm trying to download the movie since you posted the message, 
but so far the download never passed 20% - it just hangs there 
endlessly. Trying again right now - hope it works this time.


LF

Cotty escreveu:

At Christmas we spent a week on the Isle of Coll in Scotland. I didn't
shoot hardly any stills, but i did shoot a couple of hours of video.

Here's a 13 minute film called 'Coll' and features some scenery, some
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<http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/video.html>

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Re: Peso Ice and Chain

2009-01-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Interesting photo indeed, David - that wedding is getting more and more 
interesting...


LF

David J Brooks escreveu:

I went with Erin and James today, to look at ANOTHER golf club for the
wedding reception.

Lots of snow over the weekend, but roads were pretty good.

Several things of interest outside to photograph.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8514555

There were two chains hanging down from the entrance and this one caught my eye.

Not sure if i like my conversion, or the colour better.

K10D, 16-45 LR 2 conversion.

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Re: PESO - attempt at B/W conversion

2009-01-18 Thread Luiz Felipe
Peter, I saw "Stan" (a T-Rex fossil) at Disney's Animal Kingdom and the 
folks at the exibition told me how few specimens existed. It's a very 
difficult puzzle indeed.


There are lots of unexplained artifacts from pre-historic ages that 
suggest mankind did have a former civilization that vanished in some 
global catastrophe, leaving scattered groups with tales of destruction 
by flood and fire. We usually regard our achievements as important, but 
if mankind disappeared the next tenants would have little to remember us.


LF

Peter Alling escreveu:

On a serious note, most people don't realize how little of the fossil record actually 
exists.  I think the entire T-Rex species is known from fewer than 100 individuals with 
only a half a dozen considered "nearly complete", representing several hundred 
thousand years of the species' existence.  The amount of time that hominids an entire 
group of mammalian species have been on earth is less time than the existence of that one 
species of dinosaur was.  If the same amount of time elapsed between the rise of a new 
intelligent creature and our demise, as between us and the dinosaurs, I doubt enough 
would exist of our works to show that we were tool users.  In fact though there are an 
awful lot of us, I doubt there would be many surviving fossils, as most of us live in 
areas not conducive to fossil formation.

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From: AlunFoto 
Sent: Jan 17, 2009 3:45 PM
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2009/1/17 Peter Alling :


If birds are related to dinosaurs maybe they did.
Not much would be left of our civilization after a few million years.
  

True enough. But since there are fossilised remains of early hominids
like Lucy, then one has to wonder how a previous civilisation of
another species could have come and gone without as much as a trace in
the fossil record.

Unless, of course, the fossil record is a hoax planted by the previous
civilisation.

No, wait! That doesn't hold with the fact that Noah's flood caused all
the fossils.


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Re: PESO: Co-pilot

2009-01-18 Thread Luiz Felipe

Great moment - don't mind the FOV, it's just fine.

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Was recently visiting my hopelessly RC involved brother who lives in the San 
Jose, CA smog.
His retired life now involves little else than RC (radio controlled) model 
airplanes (electric motors).
I accompanied him to the Monta Vista area where he joined about twenty of his 
like afflicted friends who spend at least as much on their RC hobby as I do my 
photo hobby.
I began watching a father daughter "team" thoroughly enjoy both the flying and a 
absolutely joyous relationship. They were there for a fairly short time both days I happened to, 
also, be there. At one point Dad was in a conversation with a fellow "pilot" while his 
daughter obviously relished a completely comfortable warm connection to him as she play/waited.
I grabbed a moment with the wide end of my K10D to which is a nearly permanently attached FA 80~320. 
Wish I'd had a somewhat greater FoV.


Jack

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Re: GESO - 003 "Study in Lichen and Moss"

2009-01-18 Thread Luiz Felipe

Yessir... ;-)

Liked the shot, BTW. Lately I'm feeling the need to shoot closer and closer.

LF

Joseph McAllister escreveu:

On Jan 18, 2009, at 05:17 , David J Brooks wrote:


Carry a spritzer bottle aka Mr C Braswell.:-)

Dave



I only do my cheating in Photoshop, thank you sir!

And Luis, no, I do not have to, nor wish to, be addressed or referred 
to as Sir...  I'm a Scot.  Just don't look at me directly and you'll 
be fine.   :-)


On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Joseph McAllister 
 wrote:

I went back today and reshot #9 closer with a FA 100mm Macro, but the
weather was dryer, and the light warmer.

I added what I got to the end of the GESO. Not as pretty, IMHO. And 
cropped

to get the bright background out and for balance.

http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/GESO%20%20-%20%20Pentaxian/large-20.html


On Jan 17, 2009, at 05:05 , Luiz Felipe wrote:


Joseph, numbers 2, 4 and 9 worked well for me - did you get closer?

LF

Joseph McAllister escreveu:


A few shots I took the other day. It was overcast so the light 
level low,
just as it was with the Study in Chain Link, shot at the same time 
(mostly).


http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/GESO%20%20-%20%20Pentaxian/index3.html

Comments and criticisms are always welcome as I grow(?).


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Re: PESO -- Just another Cliché [Sunset]

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe

Not sure here - seems fuzzy in my screen. Interesting colors and framing.

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As the title says.

<http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20justanotherclich%e9.html>

Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/Vivitar Series 1 VMC 35-85mm f2.8 Varifocal

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Re: PESO -- Tire-d

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe

I like it Peter - wonder about the colors, a little.

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Peter Alling escreveu:

I don't know if I posted this before. If I have you can ignore it.

http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20tire-d.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/some lens or other...

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Re: On-topic, now off-topic, enablement

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
Ouch... sorry, for me and some MPB stands for Musica Popular Brasileira 
- Brasilian Pop Music wich was part of my parents' soundtrack... and is 
still part of mine. The listed are my "Foreign Soundtrack", opposite to 
my 2-part "National Soundtrack" composed mainly by Brasilian Popular and 
Fado - a Portuguese "Must".


No baldness so far - just a good amount of white, mixed to the original 
brown. Now your post really made sense...


The time I wore my hair long I had no worry about safety - wich I 
usually don't anyway, except two times I had to let the critters notice 
I already had my hand full of metals and gunpowder. They left in a 
hurry. Somehow a hairy and bearded LF seems less of a potential victim.


LF

ps: do you wish to be adressed as sir???

Joseph McAllister escreveu:

On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:32 , Luiz Felipe wrote:

Second time around, Joseph. When I did cut my hair years ago, the gal 
at the shop asked me three times if I was sure... and then asked 
again. For me it's no big deal, either short or long - in the middle 
is the problem, as it's all over the wind. I do get by a little 
better with short hair and shaved - only now and then someone tries 
to rob me. No such problems with long hair and bearded, who knows why...


Ditto, except the robbed part. Don't think the a-holes who broke into 
my car knew anything about my hair length.


For the record, I'm only part-time MPB... being exposed to foreign 
influences like Doors, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, The Who, Yes, 
Genesis, Led Zep... then Quiet Riot, Great White, Cinderella, Twisted 
Sister... not to forget newcomers like Offspring, Metallica, Angra... 
That was sure to balance a Classic/ MPB/ Fado childhood.


But lately I'm hearing lots of kid music...

You came up with a definition of MPB that I still can't figure out. I 
was referring to Male Pattern Baldness. But your music tastes 
certainly mirror mine for the most part. My childhood was Classic/Folk 
Songs/Musicals. Standing around the piano singing Old Man River, 
Oklahoma, Swanee River, Workin' on the Railroad to my mother's 
accompaniment.


Joseph McAllister escreveu:

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Luiz Felipe  wrote:


I'm letting hair
grow and the cap helps keeping it out my face until it's
tail-long.



I hear your pain, Luiz.  My hair is now down to my shoulders. I 
actually went out and bought some headbands last week so I didn't 
have to wear a hat all time to keep my hair out of the way. Growing 
into my avatar...


Sorry about mentioning this, all you 40 somethings with that MPB, 
but I have to have something to brag about at 66.5 yrs.  :-)


Tail long!   Whew!

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Re: Resisting the Temptation of Wide-Angle (was - PanasonicG1...example photo @ ISO 1000)

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
William, I had some custom-made prints once or twice - one got even 
better as the group was really wide and the trimmed photo allowed me to 
cut out the ceiling. But that was way before the computers got personal.


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William Robb escreveu:


- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: Resisting the Temptation of Wide-Angle (was - 
PanasonicG1...example photo @ ISO 1000)




William Robb wrote:


I find for myself, that if I am doing a paid shoot, I, of course, 
grab whichever lens is required, and often that is a very wide angle


When doing a paid shoot, going a little wider than what you *expect* 
to need is usually better: You have to have room to crop off the ends 
when a customer wants an 8 x 10 or 11 x 14 print -- and if your frame 
everything tightly into the 2:3 ratio of most SLR's you won't be able 
to supply prints in these "squarer" print formats without losing 
things on the long ends of the frame.


When I worked at the photo store we had a number of "professional" 
photographers who couldn't seem to grasp this concept.


We had a photographer have a brain fart on a group shot last year 
where he filled the frame with his group, not allowing for 4:5 ratio 
prints.
The post production person on the job was going mental until I 
introduced her to the concept of using the transform tool as a way of 
fitting the sides in. I figured they wouldn't mind being a bit thinner 
anyway.


William Robb

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Re: On-topic enablement

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
Hey Rick... the moment I felt like using my hair long I did it - it's my 
hair anyway, and anyone uncapable of accepting me hairy is probably 
better away from me anyway. Had a few costumers eye me sideways but 
almost all of them accepted me after the first job. My parents reacted 
negatively as expected, but kept breathing as usual. No big deal. Wife 
didn't like it, but didn't leave - and my son gave it no great 
attention, just told me he did like his own hair short.


Dreams to some often turn out nightmares to others - but I'd try to make 
mine (and my wife and kids')come true. If only they were as simple as a 
long hair...


LF

Rick Womer escreveu:

Only in my dreams...

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Luiz Felipe  wrote:

  

I'm letting hair
grow and the cap helps keeping it out my face until it's
tail-long. 




  


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Re: On-topic enablement

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
Second time around, Joseph. When I did cut my hair years ago, the gal at 
the shop asked me three times if I was sure... and then asked again. For 
me it's no big deal, either short or long - in the middle is the 
problem, as it's all over the wind. I do get by a little better with 
short hair and shaved - only now and then someone tries to rob me. No 
such problems with long hair and bearded, who knows why...


For the record, I'm only part-time MPB... being exposed to foreign 
influences like Doors, Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, The Who, Yes, Genesis, 
Led Zep... then Quiet Riot, Great White, Cinderella, Twisted Sister... 
not to forget newcomers like Offspring, Metallica, Angra... That was 
sure to balance a Classic/ MPB/ Fado childhood.


But lately I'm hearing lots of kid music...

LF

Joseph McAllister escreveu:

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Luiz Felipe  wrote:


I'm letting hair
grow and the cap helps keeping it out my face until it's
tail-long.



I hear your pain, Luiz.  My hair is now down to my shoulders. I 
actually went out and bought some headbands last week so I didn't have 
to wear a hat all time to keep my hair out of the way. Growing into my 
avatar...


Sorry about mentioning this, all you 40 somethings with that MPB, but 
I have to have something to brag about at 66.5 yrs.  :-)


Tail long!   Whew!

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Re: GESO: Kerala (was) Re: bazaar

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
Subash, you have some very interesting images there. The one suggestion 
I can think of is more attention to details.


One detail that did bother me was the man in the boat - needing either a 
fill card or a very, very weak flash. The church, the boilers and the 
the boat would be my faves. The boilers could also work without the boat 
and the wires.


The sunsets are good moments but I'd change their framing - the horizon 
is too close to the middle for my taste, and the one with the fishing 
net could possibly benefit from a slightly different position. I also 
liked the song, but the person in the foreground is sort of blending to 
the ones standing in front of him - standing just a little to the left 
would probably place him against the lighted floor. As they are, very 
interesting images that could (for my taste) be even better with minor 
changes. As I say that, it's not easy to compose a "grabshot", and we 
often have just one shot before we are noticed and the mood spoiled. But 
if you have the chance, move a little and shoot again. ;-)


Please post more!

LF

Subash escreveu:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:58:12 -0600
"Christine  Aguila"  wrote:

  

Hi Subash:  I agree with what William Robb said, but keep posting
your shots from your recent trip.  I'd love to see them.  Why don't
you put a GESO together.  Cheers, Christine



  

http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/Peso#5292119179876878786
  


hi Christine, thanks for looking and the comments. appreciate it. i did
in fact put together a collection of photos for friends here in India.
some of the captions may have local allusions which may not make much
sense to you, but it shouldn't be a serious problem. ;-) it is rather
big (25 photos), but would love to hear what you think.

http://jeyan.jalbum.net/Kerala/

regards, subash

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Re: GESO - 003 "Study in Lichen and Moss"

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
Had the first three rainy days in a loong time this week, and liked the 
change... since the rain is fairly warm and at the same time cools down 
the city a little.


Got tired of losing the close encounters and switched the hood in my 
50mm for a reverse adapter and #1 extension ring. Now I'm macro-able, 
but the wind got too intense for that kind of work in the streets. Go 
figure...


LF

Joseph McAllister escreveu:

On Jan 17, 2009, at 05:05 , Luiz Felipe wrote:


Joseph, numbers 2, 4 and 9 worked well for me - did you get closer?

LF

Joseph McAllister escreveu:
A few shots I took the other day. It was overcast so the light level 
low, just as it was with the Study in Chain Link, shot at the same 
time (mostly).


http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/GESO%20%20-%20%20Pentaxian/index3.html

Comments and criticisms are always welcome as I grow(?).



I was working with the DA 50-200, and was about as close as it would 
focus, hand held, at 200mm or less. #9 (Grass and Moss) was certainly 
a fluke, being as sharp as it is. Being overweight, with knee 
arthritis and wearing boots that were too big, standing still without 
swaying back and forth is impossible. But for that 1/45th of a second, 
I guess I was able to stay within the capabilities of the sensor 
twitching motor.


The reason for the long zoom was I was shooting photos of the dogs at 
the Lowell Dog Park, as I do most every day. I usually don't carry 
anything other than this lens or the DA 18-250. I do have my Z10 with 
me all the time, and writing this reminded me that I have the 
capability there of super macro shots. I'll try some today.


Here in Everett, we're getting pretty tired of the weather. Of 
anyplace in Puget Sound, Everett is the one spot that has not been out 
of the fog or total overcast for almost two weeks. And today's 
forecast confirms that it may be the same until Wednesday, when it 
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Re: PESO - A couple more spring flowers

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
Mixed feelings Boris - The background is neither focused nor out of 
enough. Interesting subjects, and framing - I'd go macro on #1if I 
could. Keep them coming...


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Boris Liberman escreveu:

Hi!

I am taking a bit of rest these days from many activities. So I am 
trying to come up with easy images (like in "easy listening").


I wonder if it ever worked that way...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/01/peso-2009-002.html

Both shot with my trusty SMCP A 50/1.2.

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Re: PESO: Good Listeners

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe

Very good moment Paul!

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Re: PESO: bazaar

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe

Much better, for me. The post still bothers, but less so.

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Subash escreveu:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:58:59 -0300
Luiz Felipe  wrote:

  

Hi Subash, really colorful. But I'm kind of divided between the
in-focus area, the still brighter colors up high a little to the
center, and the man figure. Keep them coming!



hi Luiz,

thanks for looking and the comment. here's another shot taken with a
lot more DOF. do tell me if this makes more sense to you..

http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/Peso#5292301333245877234

thanks, subash

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Re: Resisting the Temptation of Wide-Angle (was - Panasonic G1...example photo @ ISO 1000)

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
Mark, I sometimes made lines on the Lx and Hassel groundglasses (in the 
Lx, not the groundglass itself but in the glass cover above it) to mark 
some areas I had to leave completely clean for titles and text. And 
remember some ground glass with the framing lines to standart print 
sizes. Had some problems myself with family parties, before going for money.


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Mark Roberts escreveu:

William Robb wrote:


I find for myself, that if I am doing a paid shoot, I, of course, 
grab whichever lens is required, and often that is a very wide angle


When doing a paid shoot, going a little wider than what you *expect* 
to need is usually better: You have to have room to crop off the ends 
when a customer wants an 8 x 10 or 11 x 14 print -- and if your frame 
everything tightly into the 2:3 ratio of most SLR's you won't be able 
to supply prints in these "squarer" print formats without losing 
things on the long ends of the frame.


When I worked at the photo store we had a number of "professional" 
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Re: Resisting the Temptation of Wide-Angle (was - Panasonic G1...example photo @ ISO 1000)

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
William, I think this is about our "own", rather than "paid for" shots. 
If I include my jobs, then some 80% will fall into "tele" range, almost 
always with 100/ 135mm in 35mm, 120/ 150 in the Hassel. Second lens 
would be the 24mm for the 35mm format and the 50mm for the Hassel. I 
hardly used my zooms unless the photo absolutely demanded - exceptions 
being 35~70 2.8 (long gone) and 28~70 4.0 wich had some use in parties 
and events.


But those were the lens required to do the job anyway - when we're asked 
to provide some particular view of the shoes we're doing that, even if 
we offer a side shot as alternative.


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William Robb escreveu:


- Original Message - From: "Anthony Farr"
Subject: RE: Resisting the Temptation of Wide-Angle (was - Panasonic 
G1...example photo @ ISO 1000)



I'm not claiming that wide-angle shots are inferior.  Some shots can 
only be
made with a wide lens and many photographers are skilled and 
expressive with
them.  My own experience is that my photographs are better when I use 
the
longest lens that will suffice.  Sometimes that will still be a wide 
lens,
but in future I'll resist the temptation to pursue a wide view for 
its own

sake.

In my professional years I found that a wide lens was handy for 
getting into
the front rank of a media event and still being able to frame the 
shot. In
a crowded room I could grab a reasonably large group from only a 
metre or

two away with my venerable M 24~35 (shooting film).  Landscapes and
industrial scenes often needed my widest lens (15mm at work, 17mm in my
personal kit)to encompass the client's brief.

My current taste is for a tighter view.  If possible I'll back up as 
much as
I'm able and shoot as long as I can.  I simply prefer the aesthetics 
of the

longer lens for now.


I find for myself, that if I am doing a paid shoot, I, of course, grab 
whichever lens is required, and often that is a very wide angle, but 
if I am pleasure shooting, I tend towards standard to short telephoto 
more than anything else.
One of the things I like about digital is that the plethora of 
slightly wide angle focal lengths from my 35mm film days have now 
become standards to short telephotos.

When I was shooting 35mm, I always wanted a 60mm lens.

William Robb

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Re: OT PESO - BANG!!!

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe

Hi David... Nice catch - how many pics did you take overall??

LF

David Savage escreveu:

G'day All.

Sometimes it's handy having a camera with a high FPS count:

<http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3173175215/>

It's not really a PESO, more of a fast moving GESO.

Cheers,

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Re: Resisting the Temptation of Wide-Angle (was - Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000)

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
Guess every story has at least two sides... The first lens I bought came 
with the Km body (1976), and I made lots and lots of pics with the 50mm 
1.4 before I bought a 28mm and a 135mm - and discovered I was often too 
wide or too narrow and had to use the 28 and crop.


Using dad's cameras was a little different - I very often carried only 
the 35mm and the 90mm. So far, and assuming 35mm film as default format, 
most of my photos fall into "normal" 28~40 range, "close enough" 50~90, 
with secondary categories being "far" 135~, and "wide" ~24. In 
particular, "wide" is where my 24mm very often is not enough. The same 
goes for "away", but not often. I can (if I really really need) use a 2x 
and once or twice I borrowed long teles - wich seem more likely to find 
than under-24mm lenses around here.


Now I can and do try a different angle if I'm too wide for that far away 
pic, and if not wide enough I'll try a different angle of the story - 
but as soon as I can spare the cash I'll add lenses, starting from those 
I need most. From the pics I feel like trying, right now I'll go 
wider... wich is a problem since right now I need a smaller format than 
35mm. Looking for the 10~20 to pair with my future digital aps Pentax 
may solve these problems.


You have a point about most of my photos - they're likely to keep coming 
from the 28~135mm range (35mm equivalent). But there is always something 
new to try isn't it?


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Anthony Farr escreveu:

The overall impression I get from the "Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO
1000" discussion is that many photographers aspire to wider and yet wider
fields of view. 


But lately I've observed that my best photographs mostly have normal to
narrow fields of view.  As tempting as it is to put on a wide lens and
capture the whole scene, I've been striving to exercise some self discipline
and choose the longest focal length that works.  Sometimes I even try to use
a longer lens than is comfortable, and select that small part of the scene
that tells the story.

A tele shot seems to have a cleanness and tightness that distils and
concentrates a story.  Wide shots can often capture objects unrelated to the
subject that will dilute a story(expansive landscapes excepted).

In a nutshell - I tend to desire wide-angle lenses, but I'm better off using
normal or long lenses.

Regards, Anthony


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Re: GESO - 003 "Study in Lichen and Moss"

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe

Joseph, numbers 2, 4 and 9 worked well for me - did you get closer?

LF

Joseph McAllister escreveu:
A few shots I took the other day. It was overcast so the light level 
low, just as it was with the Study in Chain Link, shot at the same 
time (mostly).


http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/GESO%20%20-%20%20Pentaxian/index3.html

Comments and criticisms are always welcome as I grow(?).

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Re: PESO: bazaar

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
Hi Subash, really colorful. But I'm kind of divided between the in-focus 
area, the still brighter colors up high a little to the center, and the 
man figure. Keep them coming!


Luiz Felipe

Subash escreveu:

hi,

am back from a week's trip to my native state kerala, on the west
coast of india. got plenty of photos, hopefully some of them good.
here's one to start with :

http://picasaweb.google.com/pdml.live/Peso#5292119179876878786

a hawker in the local bazaar waiting for a customers. would love to
hear your comments.

K10D, FA35/2, Raw, Digikam

regards, subash

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Re: On-topic enablement

2009-01-17 Thread Luiz Felipe
Roger that Derby - but I'm into Disney hats myself. You wouldn't believe 
how easy to get a subject's smile wearing the Goofy one...


But my main motive is the opposite - I'm letting hair grow and the cap 
helps keeping it out my face until it's tail-long. Part of my Hell's 
Angel disguise for the coming US trip... ;-)


LF

Derby Chang escreveu:


Along the lines of MaritimTim's enablement, the best 25 bucks I've 
spent lately - one of Mark's cafepress caps.


I'm not normally a hat person, but a recent bit of sunburn after a No 
1 haircut made me reconsider. Cuts down on spurious meter readings 
from stray light in the viewfinder too. Highly recommended.


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Re: PESO: Wh...Whe...Where Am I ???

2009-01-16 Thread Luiz Felipe

Well Rick, I'm lost too... but that's a nice photo, BTW.

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Rick Womer escreveu:

"Gee, Toto... I don't think we're in Philly anymore..."

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8507667&size=lg

(K10D, DA 50-200)

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Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Luiz Felipe
Same problem, similar solution... but add a new notebook to that 
schedule. Sad to say, I have to stretch my ca$h a lot.


LF

Charles Robinson escreveu:

On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:38, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Or is everyone here simply too cheap to buy what they need for a new 
camera with a different format?




(*raises hand with a resigned look on face*)

Yeah, my budget for camera gear is not where I would like it to be.  
Kid's college and car repairs and home repair comes first, sadly.


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Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Luiz Felipe
I'm glad you put this in writing... now I can trim 20 years of my age 
and feel I'm young again... ;-)


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Paul Stenquist escreveu:
I thought in equivalent field of view when I first moved to digital. 
Now after tens of thousands of digital photos, I know what the FOV of 
a given lens is on my camera. The 35mm FOVs never cross my mind. My 
16-50 is a 16-50. Period. At one end it's nice for landscapes and my 
VTs. At the other end, it's a slightly wide portrait lens. Equivalents 
are for the newbies.

Paul
On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:39 AM, frank theriault wrote:

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Joseph McAllister 
 wrote:

I solved this problem for myself by NOT using words at all.



I solved the problem, too.  I put a lens on my camera.  I look through
the viewfinder.  What I see in the viewfinder mostly corresponds with
what's going to show up on the picture.

Okay, seriously, I guess I just don't need to know exact
equivalencies.  A 16mm will be wider than a 24mm on all bodies -
that's about all I need to know.  After nearly a couple of years, I
have a pretty good idea what a lens of a given focal length will do on
film on my *istD.  Exact numbers don't interest me so much...

;-)

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Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Luiz Felipe

Great, huge mistake here:

Luiz Felipe escreveu:

... Moving from the Hasselblad to the 35mm will not
transform the 150mm in a 275mm - but will change its role from a
"normal" lens to a "moderate tele". And the best way to grasp that... 

Actually should read

... Moving from the Hasselblad to the 35mm will not
transform the 150mm in a 275mm - but will change its role from a
"moderate tele" lens to a "tele". And the best way to grasp that ...


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Re: PESO: industrial kitsch

2009-01-16 Thread Luiz Felipe

Hey Ralf, isn't it time for a bad image, just for a change??

Great as usual!

Luiz Felipe

Ralf R. Radermacher escreveu:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15675255

Enjoy.

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Re: SDHC - Ultra 2 or 3

2009-01-16 Thread Luiz Felipe

Tell you, I give you $20 for that K20d of yours... assuming it's working ok.

LF

m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com escreveu:
 Cory Waters  wrote: 
  

I just got two Sandisc Ultra II 4GB cards at Amazon for under $14...
The times we livein in man... I tell ya.
Cory



Heard on the radio this morning that bulk iron ore carriers that were hiring at 
$250,000/day last summer are now available at $3000/day.  No takers.  Using the 
same rates, that makes a K20D worth about $5.

  

Brian Campbell wrote:


I just purchased the K20D and was wondering what memory I should go with,
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Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-16 Thread Luiz Felipe

Actually, when I started using different formats I used a numeric
relation. I started with 35mm, and had finished sorting out what use I
had for each lens, and all the sudden those beaultiful numbers stopped
making sense. Since they were numbers, its translation to their new
meaning was a... give the kid a hand of applause, a number! I wonder if
I had scribed "wide" "normal" and "tele 1" and "tele 2" in red to 35mm
and blue to 120 format... Dad would have some harsh words to say.

Since I started pestering my father to teach me to photograph, lenses
come by numbers that don't describe their FOV. To understand their
meanings I have to take in context the film/ sensor size. Since I can't
see photo industry all the sudden change their naming, I guess we're
about to continue calling lenses by its focal lenght - a number that by
itself does not describe the field of view. And I fairly believe the
users switching formats will rely on a numeric relation to translate
their pet lenses to their new roles (this number to be named henceforth
as "yellow aardvark").

Hate as I hate using words sometimes, I guess the idea of using a number
to correlate the lens' focal lenght ( another number) to its role in a
new format will stick around. And Jaume, you're not alone - as soon as I
started to look into APS sized pentaxes, I started looking for a new
wide angle. Guess what I did to translate their focal lenghts to my 35mm
perspective?? The right kid gets a cookie... The same number I used when
I suddenly remembered my not-so-interesting 50mm would become a so-so
tele with a delightful aperture. Too bad that number is widely referred
to as "crop factor". I guess "35mm-to-APS format conversion reference"
would be to long to type anyway.

Godfrey, I really am sorry to disagree with you - since I agree with you
to some extent. Context - when it comes to lenses and quotes - makes a
lot of difference. Moving from the Hasselblad to the 35mm will not
transform the 150mm in a 275mm - but will change its role from a
"normal" lens to a "moderate tele". And the best way to grasp that new
role in a quick and dirty way will be multiplying the "reference focal
number for the format" (number, usually the focal lenght) by a
"groundhog rate" (yet another number, usually the ratio between formats'
diagonal). Sadly this makes no allowance to the different proportions.

I am saying that to get the Hasselblad the "tele look"  I get from my
100mm (in 35mm format) I'll need a lens longer than that, and I can live
with the 150mm since it's available, and the almost enough wide 50mm for
the hassel would make a better choice for the 6x7, and the 75mm (4.5x6
format normal) would behave as a lovely wide for the 4x5. That of course
assuming their image circles would cover all the formats. After some
time, the numeric conversion stuff fades away - until the next format
change.

Luiz Felipe

Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu:


On Jan 15, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Luiz Felipe wrote:

The problem here seems choice of words. You seem fed up with "crop 
factor" but willing to apply "field of view equivalence" to describe 
what happens when you change the size of the film or sensor used to 
capture the image.


I only use equivalence terms when discussing the subject of crop 
factor with users. I use neither of them when discussing lenses for a 
particular camera system.


Call it aardvark or pink panther, there is a numeric relation that 
will help me translate the lens to their new use. The same as my 120 
and 4x5 experiences.


Do you call your 35mm camera lenses by a "crop factor" on your medium 
format and large format camera lenses? "Well, the crop factor for my 
Hasselblad 150mm lens makes it a 275mm lens for my Pentax K1000."


Just nonsense. It's a 150mm lens, the focal length has a meaning with 
respect to the FoV *in the context* of a particular format. Period. If 
you need to equivalence those fields of view, call the factor by which 
they difference an equivalence factor, not a crop.


Or just call it a telephoto lens for the 35mm camera and a portrait 
lens for the Hasselblad.


Or simply state the FoVs: 150mm = 21/21/29 degrees 
horizontal/vertical/diagonal on the Hasselblad, or 13/9/16 degrees for 
the K1000. If that isn't informative enough, nothing is. It's a heck 
of a lot more informative than a "crop factor".


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Re: PESO - Goshawk

2009-01-15 Thread Luiz Felipe

Agree!

Jostein, I can't wait to see what's nest ;-)

LF

Brian Walters escreveu:

Excellent!

The blurred wings and pin-sharp eyes looking directly at the camera make
for a very compelling image.  Maybe some of the highlights behind the
bird could be reduced in intensity, but that's a minor nit.


Cheers

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On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:25:38 +0100, "AlunFoto" 
said:
  

Dear gang,
Thanks for all the comments on my past PESOS the last couple of days.
I will address the comments more broadly when I get back to Oslo. For
now, here's a taste of today's production. Tomorrow will be my last
day up here, and I'm going back with the eagles. They have put out
more bait than previously, so I cross my fingers for some
eagle-to-eagle interactions tomorrow.

For now, here's a taste of today's production.

Image only:
http://turl.no/2s4

In blog:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/01/eagles-day-3.html

cheers from a cold but happy camper,
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Re: PESO Don't Walk

2009-01-15 Thread Luiz Felipe

Nice shot Christine! Is that what they call "white noise"??

Serious, I like it.

LF

Christine Aguila escreveu:

Just a quick grab.  We had a bit of weather today.

http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/don%27twalk/content/Truman_Snow_shots_4_large.html 



Only funny & witty comments of the Bob W kind welcome ;-).
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Re: PESO - Spring is coming

2009-01-15 Thread Luiz Felipe
Hey Boris, nice shot! While I don't want it to be an obligation, do try 
to photograph every week - I really wish I could.


LF

Boris Liberman escreveu:

Hi!

Last week I had a chance to do a bit of photography. So here is one 
picture I'd like to share with you:


http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/01/peso-2009-001.html

Have your honest and brutal say.

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Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-15 Thread Luiz Felipe
The problem here seems choice of words. You seem fed up with "crop 
factor" but willing to apply "field of view equivalence" to describe 
what happens when you change the size of the film or sensor used to 
capture the image.


I enjoy very much using the 24mm, had used the 50mm only because it's 
bright, and 90% of my portrait  was made between 100 and 135mm - in the 
35mm format. The moment I buy a micro4/3 or APS sized sensor I'll have 
these lens I own change their role. And will have to search a new option 
to my wide angle needs. Call it aardvark or pink panther, there is a 
numeric relation that will help me translate the lens to their new use. 
The same as my 120 and 4x5 experiences. I hate some words myself, and 
don't wish to seem champion for the "crop factor" idea. But I'm willing 
to touch the matter of "diferent viewing angles" for the same lens used 
by different format cameras very often - there is always some newcomer 
around that may benefit of the matter.


The point is, the very same lens collection we are willing to keep in 
use is going to assume a new dimension the moment we buy a new camera 
with a different size of sensor. So there is no free lunch - there is 
always a price to pay.


Luiz Felipe

Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu:

On Jan 15, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

But, then, in m4/3, the same 24mm produces an AOV equivalent to a 
48mm on film. Well, if you like this field of view, great, but, in 
any case, if you used to use the lens for landscapes, now you HAVE TO 
add a wider lens to the system and use the 24mm for other purposes. 
And suddenly, for some people, the 24mm won't have the same appeal 
that it used to, so, again for some people, the idea of buying a new 
system in order to be able to use the lense probably wasn't as good 
as it seemed.



Using a 20mm focal length on FourThirds format produces the same 
result as using a 35mm lens on a Leica M4 and printing an 11x14 inch 
print with the full vertical field of view, cropping on the long axis. 
Remember that the FourThirds format proportion is different from 
35mm's 2:3 proportion, which is not reflected in the "crop factor", 
based on diagonal measure. Vertical field of view equivalence is 
1.83x, horizontal is 2.1x.


So yes, you need a different focal length lens if you want a wider 
field of view. But that's SOP for anyone moving between formats. Big 
deal.


Personally: I use adapted older lenses primarily to obtain fast, 
compact, well corrected portrait and tele field of view. For wide 
field of view, I use FourThirds lenses as they are better designed for 
the format.


EG: The aforementioned M50/1.4 lens, fitted on the Olympus 1.4x 
teleconverter, produces a superb 70mm f/2 lens that is small, light, 
with a field of view equivalent to something in the neighborhood of a 
135mm lens on 35mm film. A Color Heliar 75/2.5 will be about the same 
and even smaller, lighter. This FoV was always one of my best 
favorites when I want tele. A 135mm f/2 lens for a 35mm SLR camera is 
a rarity, and large/heavy/expensive.


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Re: PESO: A few recent shots

2009-01-15 Thread Luiz Felipe

Great shots Ralf!

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Ralf R. Radermacher escreveu:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15658340

Channel ferry Seafrance Manet, lately withdrawn from active duty between
Calais and Dover, hasn't yet been officially decommissioned by Seafrance
but it has been laid up in Dunkirk for a while and is obviously waiting
for a buyer. 



http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15659479

P&O's Pride of Canterbury, also shown at Dunkirk, has just had some
major repair and repainting work done and will by now have returned to
Calais for a few more years on the same relation.


http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15664532

A rotating bridge in the habour of Dunkirk


http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15652721

We've just had two weeks of dry and sunny winter weather with a strong
high-pressure system over most of Western Europe which ended with a
temperature inversion and very bad air quality. So, what you're seeing
in the background isn't fog or mist but solid smog in the valley of the
river Meuse at Liège.


As always, your coments and suggestions... :-)

Ralf

  


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Re: Panasonic G1 ... example photo @ ISO 1000

2009-01-15 Thread Luiz Felipe
Actually that's one of their strong points - almost any system you 
currently own, you'll be able to add a micro4/3 camera to your bag. The 
2x conversion is a drawback, however.


I'm still wondering about the viewfinder - call me spoiled. Will try one 
of them in the first chance. So far my intentions include digital 
Pentaxes, since I like the available options and have some PK gear. But 
those cameras are interesting indeed. Wonder if I'll be able to resist 
some Leica-styled small digital, compatible with almost any brand of 
lens available...


LF

Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu:


On Jan 14, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
This page is keeping a tally of what's available, what's coming, etc 
in lens adapters:

http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dx428wg_10fdvsmtd7
I'm currently using the Panasonic DMW-MA1 adapter (FourThirds to 
micro43) for FourThirds SLR lenses and stacking Pentax K, Nikon F, 
Pentax M42 and Olympus OM adapters to use the older manual lenses I 
have kicking about. I expect to obtain a Leica M-bayonet direct 
adapter soon and then I'll pick up the Nokton 40mm f/1.4 and Color 
Heliar 75mm f/2.5 lenses.

Godfrey


Godfrey, is it correct that due to the very short flange distance (I 
think minimal there is all together) any lens from any camera can be 
mounted on micro43 camera, such as Panasonic G1?


Just about. One of the websites showed a prototype mount adapter with 
Pentax 110 lenses fitted.


The mount register is about 20mm. For comparison, a Leica M is 28.5 
and a Pentax K is 45.


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Re: PESO - Golden Eagle

2009-01-14 Thread Luiz Felipe

Jostein, yet another great shot. I still like the other a little more.

LF

AlunFoto escreveu:

Shot only:
http://turl.no/2rw

In blog, with some comments on the experience:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/01/eagles-day-2.html

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Re: PESO: Surprising a Lady

2009-01-14 Thread Luiz Felipe

Very good Paul! You did get her phone didn't you??

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Paul Stenquist escreveu:
I was shooting virtual tours today. The agent gave me some apartment 
numbers and keys, and I worked on my own. I opened the door of the 
first apartment, and immediately thought I must be in the wrong 
apartment. Not ten feet away a young lady was standing in front of her 
stove, her head was thrown back, and her eyes were closed. I thought 
that perhaps I had interrupted something, well, intimate. Once I 
stopped blushing and found my voice, II asked her if she''d like to 
model for me, and she did just that -- without speaking so much as a 
word. Here's a pic from that shoot:


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Re: Cotty's birthday

2009-01-14 Thread Luiz Felipe

Happy birthday Cotty!

LF

Scott Loveless escreveu:

It's Cotty's birthday where Cotty is.  Somebody call him, please, and
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Re: PESO - Sea Eagle

2009-01-13 Thread Luiz Felipe

Great work indeed - the kind to leave a lot of ruffled feathers...

LF

ps: actually I like it more because the feathers aren't neatly arranged.

AlunFoto escreveu:

http://turl.no/2rr

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Re: Geso Red barn redone and extra's

2009-01-13 Thread Luiz Felipe
David, the snow helps - but I agree about the superimposed fences Very 
interesting images...


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David J Brooks escreveu:

Hi gang.

Went out for a tour Sunday. Some new snow over the week and nice and sunny.

Re visited the red barn spot and the fence post spot, for some reshooting.

http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=434798

K10D, 77 Ltd and LR adjusting.

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Re: For Frank

2009-01-13 Thread Luiz Felipe
Frank, you're not suggesting we who live in hot places with year-round 
swimming are mad, I hope...


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frank theriault escreveu:

...snip
But honestly, I think I prefer living in a place that has distinct
seasons.  I think warm all year round would drive me nuts!

:-)

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Re: PESO - Takin' It to the Streets

2009-01-13 Thread Luiz Felipe

Interesting moment, Frank!

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frank theriault escreveu:

We got a dusting of snow on the weekend.  I was in Kensington Market
doing my weekly shopping.  The already-narrow sidewalks are worse with
snowbanks, so Itook to the street.  I turned around (checking for
cars) and this scene caught my eye:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/01/takin-it-to-streets.html

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Re: GESO - 002 - Study In Chain Link

2009-01-13 Thread Luiz Felipe

...and the links?

David J Brooks escreveu:

Interesting subject.

I'm on the fence about two of these.

Dave

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Joseph McAllister  wrote:
  

Played around this evening with some images I captured this afternoon, a
grey, foggy, misty day in the Pacific Northwest.

http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/GESO/002/index.html

Comments welcome


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Re: OT: How to review books (for LF)

2009-01-13 Thread Luiz Felipe

...now that's a low (under 2 inches) blow...

LF

m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com escreveu:
 Bob W  wrote: 
  

I think Peter Cook has come back to life.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A3R7PU67SRMD1E/ref=cm_pdp_rev_mo
re?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview#R2X2TB3S4O5I60




Not only books.  Scroll to bottom for reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/Playmobil-3172-Security-Check-Point/dp/B0002CYTL2/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

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Re: FIlm transport in hand luggage

2009-01-13 Thread Luiz Felipe
The worst moment I had experienced so far I just forgot about a tiny 
flashlight in my pocket. Was very late, and between the photo bag, my 
name being called by the PA system and the damned metal detector beeping 
I almost lost my temper. Did swear out loud in a foreign language when 
the hand detector pinpointed the not so empty pocket and the dangerous 
mini-torch. And the security did dismantle the flashlight just to make 
sure the batteries were permitted items.


Some days we just do better staying in the bed. To get to the airport I 
had a row with some rent a car crew about the difference between the 
voucher and the final settlement of the bill (had to pay cash as they 
said my creditcard refused - wich it did because they already had 
charged the balance twice). To get to the airline counter I had to wait 
for the idiot in front of me in the line, who would carry 6 bags in his 
hand but couldn't lift one, then to board the airplane I had to come 
back and describe in full detail the contents of my checked bag, which 
displayed in the airport x-ray machine something that looked like 3 gun 
barrels (my tripod), some knifes (one folding pocket, one small diving) 
and a strange amount of books (9, sci-fi). Then I just forgot to take 
out the dangerous flashlight...


And then had to show BR customs proof I had all that strange looking 
cameras and lenses before I left the country - wich I did, serial number 
after serial number after serial number. The gal was so disappointed she 
was not getting me for smuggling a full bag of photo gear she did the 
checklist twice. Then found the books, and tried hard to find where it 
said I couldn't carry 9 books from the exterior without paying some tax, 
or that sci-fi books in english were subversive and outlawed. I wonder 
if I had a Playboy magazine...


Other day I asked for hand inspection of my films, heard they say yes 
and handed them the ziplock. Wich they promptly received and dumped 
trough the x-ray with impassive faces. I only received the films back to 
test them - would leave as a present but tought better. No, I didn't 
lose my temper, but my face wouldn't qualify as impassive.


I never travel with exposed, not developed film - carry my unexposed out 
of the paper packs in a plastic bag (and often use Fuji, almost always 
in clear plastic containers) but sometimes we just can't get it done 
without some talking, and lately even talking seems ineffective. Thanks 
for your views, folks - I'll carry TSA and Kodak printouts with me. And 
maybe I go digital in 2009...


LF

Bob Sullivan escreveu:

Reminds me of the time (pre TSA) when boarding a flight in the US
southwest and the guy in front of me was wearing a cowboy hat, boots,
and a 5 inch belt knife in a nice buckskin scabbard.  I thought 'What
the hell?' but nobody said a word, just commonplace to carry your pig
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Re: GESO: Can't Decide (book choices)

2009-01-13 Thread Luiz Felipe
Make mine Branch and Butterfly - but I kept tilting the notebook every 
time I watched Butterfly. Great images anyway, but I'd leave the "rat" 
and the hummingbird out, on the count of the background and wing 
position just about to cover its eyes.


If you guys keep posting that good images the book is going to make 
history...


LF

John Celio escreveu:

Five finalists:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1062

Took forever to narrow it down this much.  Hardest bit of editing I've 
had to do all year.  The hummingbird one is supposed to look sepia 
toned, but the Photoshop sepia filter doesn't help for shit, and this 
is the closest I could get.  Probably too yellow.


If you have an opinion on which one or two are best, I'd be immensely 
grateful.  I'm a terrible editor, especially with recent photos taken 
recently.


Thanks,
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Re: GESO - 002 - Study In Chain Link

2009-01-13 Thread Luiz Felipe
Breaking barriers Joseph?? Very very interesting set, and my faves are 
1, 2 and 5... just great. Keep 'em coming... :-)


LF

Joseph McAllister escreveu:
Played around this evening with some images I captured this afternoon, 
a grey, foggy, misty day in the Pacific Northwest.


http://homepage.mac.com/jomac/GESO/002/index.html

Comments welcome


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Re: PESO - Random bird from South Texas

2009-01-12 Thread Luiz Felipe

Very interesting pic, Christian. Looks like a big bird...

LF

Christian escreveu:

http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com/

Click it to make it bigger.

This guy was photographed during the workshop in Texas 18 months or so 
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Re: FIlm transport in hand luggage

2009-01-12 Thread Luiz Felipe
Rick, the sixpack that went into the machine was dumped after I 
developed one. Visible, irregular bands were evident in the unexposed 
film. I understand newer x-ray machines switch from low to high energy 
scanning modes when detect suspect metal densities.


http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/tib/tib5201.shtml offers some 
extra info. My Fuji Pro Value 200 came out fainter but similar to the 
fifth pattern counting back from the bottom of the page.


To that day I believed modern x-ray scanners would be hard to find in 
Brasil.


Thanks!!

LF

Rick Womer escreveu:

Back in the day, I carried lots of film in my camera bag, and just let it go 
through the xray machine.  I could not see any problems.  From what I've read, 
it is only very high speed film that can get fogged.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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From: Luiz Felipe 
Subject: FIlm transport in hand luggage
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 2:00 PM
Well, seems almost certain a trip of yours trully around
part of the US between april and may '09. Here in Brasil
I don't have much trouble with hand inspection of my
films - only lost six unexposed rolls so far, in a single
event.

But I wonder if this is still possible in the US - my
latest experience there came fairly ok in may, '01.
Still have a small film shield, but lately I just carry my
6pack of Fuji as I walk under the metal detector and ask it
to be hand checked.

I can travel without film if needed, but would rather have
some with me all the time. Still remember the most
suspicious way some security party regarded my gossen
lightmeter once...

Comments? Ideas? Thanks!!

LF

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FIlm transport in hand luggage

2009-01-12 Thread Luiz Felipe
Well, seems almost certain a trip of yours trully around part of the US 
between april and may '09. Here in Brasil I don't have much trouble with 
hand inspection of my films - only lost six unexposed rolls so far, in a 
single event.


But I wonder if this is still possible in the US - my latest experience 
there came fairly ok in may, '01. Still have a small film shield, but 
lately I just carry my 6pack of Fuji as I walk under the metal detector 
and ask it to be hand checked.


I can travel without film if needed, but would rather have some with me 
all the time. Still remember the most suspicious way some security party 
regarded my gossen lightmeter once...


Comments? Ideas? Thanks!!

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Re: Light room vers 2.2 downloading

2009-01-12 Thread Luiz Felipe

...some glitch...

LF

David J Brooks escreveu:

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
  

Probably a transient glitch at their servers. Just wait a while and try
again.



Could be.

I'v been trying since the middle of last week.:-)

Dave
  

G

On Jan 12, 2009, at 7:23 AM, David J Brooks wrote:



Any one having trouble down loading the PC version of the latest
Lightroom update.

It down loaded and installed on my mac fine, but when i do the windows
version for my PC, it will either do nothing, or hang up with in the
first few minutes. I have a speedy connection.

I also noticed the windows version is twice the size of the mac version.
  

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Re: PESOs: all I got in Christmas...

2009-01-12 Thread Luiz Felipe
Very interesting, I liked the contrast between lights in the first. Any 
kind of filtering?


LF

Bong Manayon escreveu:

A little late but in between the coverages and projects during
December I manage to get these:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3183164587/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/318428/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3183997244/

Shot with film (I was giving my K10D a rest...).

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Re: Quick gallery

2009-01-12 Thread Luiz Felipe
Great images, fave are grass and road. Lisa feels a little akward - 
between the framing and the movement.


LF

Mark Roberts escreveu:
Just got home after a week in NC. Stayed at our friends' cabin, 
"roughing it" by Cotty's definition: Only dial-up Internet :)


Here's a quick-n-dirty gallery of snaps I took during a walk around 
the cabin on Wednesday while it was snowing.


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Re: PESO: St. Louis Water Division

2009-01-12 Thread Luiz Felipe

Like it, Rick, but wonder what a softer light would do to that theme.

lf

Rick Womer escreveu:

This was taken in Laclede's Landing, an area of old warehouses and cobblestone 
streets near the Arch in St. Louis.

I'm not sure why it appeals to me, but it does.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8317513&size=lg

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Re: Is this overdone?

2009-01-12 Thread Luiz Felipe

William, sorry to say but I didn't understand your goal.
lf


William Robb escreveu:

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/1017finished.html

Thanks

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Re: PESO: Bored Butterfly Brain

2009-01-12 Thread Luiz Felipe

Man, you're dangerous... great pic.

LF

John Celio escreveu:

http://www.neovenator.com/special/bored.jpg

Shot while waiting to get into the Member Preview of the California 
Academy of Sciences, in San Francisco, last September.  Shot from the 
hip with the DA 100, and was pleasantly surprised when I saw how 
perfectly the composition came out.  I also started cracking up at her 
expression, because she was the only glum person in line that day.


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Re: PESO 2009 - 005 - GDG

2009-01-11 Thread Luiz Felipe

Not right now, thanks. May reconsider in the future.

LF

Paul Stenquist escreveu:


On Jan 11, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Luiz Felipe wrote:

...come on, Godfrey... for the first time, I'll pass - hope you don't 
take it too hard.



So, you're not up for that one?
Paul

LF

Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu:

From the Canary Wharf area, London  in 2005 ...

 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/005-thegoodship.jpg
 "The Good Ship.." - London 2005
 Pentax *ist DS + FA135/2.8 AL [IF]
 ISO 200 @ f/8 @ 1/125 sec

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Re: Need to buy/rent DA* 16-50

2009-01-11 Thread Luiz Felipe
Very good advice indeed - and if you have previous access to the place, 
scout it and try to match your probable position to the best lens. I 
understand some cerimonies are rehearsed (right word???) so you may tag 
along and actually shoot some before the wedding - kind of a making-of.


If you're alone, but the wedding is  to be videotaped, you may use the 
second camera without flash to get a different light - you may even go 
high ISO if your friend likes the idea. I'd avoid using any unproved or 
unfamiliar gear - test and try it beforehand, setup and handling. If the 
cameras use different batteries and/ or cards, I use a right side/ left 
side pocket separation to avoid mixing them.


LF

Paul Stenquist escreveu:

Hi John,
Can't help you with the lens, but I would suggest you also bring one 
longer lens for the ceremony. A 135 will work or, better yet, a fast 
zoom in that range. Two bodies are essential. You can't risk it all on 
one. And you'll need a good flash and diffuser for the reception, with 
plenty of backup batteries. Good luck with this.

Paul
On Jan 11, 2009, at 1:52 PM, John Celio wrote:

So it looks like I'm going to be the primary photographer at my 
college best friend's wedding in early March.  She originally wanted 
me to shoot with another friend, but apparently they had some sort of 
falling-out and now it's all on me.


I think I need the DA* 16-50 to be able to shoot this right.  I don't 
have any lens even close to that sort of quality, so I'm looking to 
buy or rent the lens from someone.  I can't afford to buy it new.  
There are no shops within a hundred miles that rent Pentax, let alone 
a DA* lens, and I don't want to use a 3rd-party lens.


So, anyone want to sell their copy?  If not, would you be willing to 
rent it?  If not that, does anyone know of a place that will rent the 
lens and ship it to me?


Thanks,
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Re: A Foggy E'en in Olde London Towne

2009-01-11 Thread Luiz Felipe

Great pic, Bob. Just watch out - Jack may still be out there...

LF

Bob W escreveu:

The fog swirls amid the Victorian docks. In the counting houses tallow
candles gutter as fat men with sleek, sallow jowls flicker their stubby
fingers through the day's tally. Dockland workers, fearful for their jobs,
scurry in the basements, searching for food, clothing, and shelter from the
penetrating dank. Dusk falls. A man steps out of the shadows. A shutter
clicks.

Or something like that, anyway.

http://www.web-options.com/Top12/content/L1030189_large.html

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Re: Need to buy/rent DA* 16-50

2009-01-11 Thread Luiz Felipe

Great link, Christine, TKS indeed!

John, hope the assignment goes extra well (;-))

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Christine Aguila escreveu:
Mathew Hunt posted this link sometime in October.  I bookmarked it.  
HTH. Good luck with the wedding shoot.  Cheers, Christine


http://www.cameralensrentals.com/shop/






- Original Message - From: "John Celio" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:52 PM
Subject: Need to buy/rent DA* 16-50


So it looks like I'm going to be the primary photographer at my 
college best friend's wedding in early March.  She originally wanted 
me to shoot with another friend, but apparently they had some sort of 
falling-out and now it's all on me.


I think I need the DA* 16-50 to be able to shoot this right.  I don't 
have any lens even close to that sort of quality, so I'm looking to 
buy or rent the lens from someone.  I can't afford to buy it new.  
There are no shops within a hundred miles that rent Pentax, let alone 
a DA* lens, and I don't want to use a 3rd-party lens.


So, anyone want to sell their copy?  If not, would you be willing to 
rent it?  If not that, does anyone know of a place that will rent the 
lens and ship it to me?


Thanks,
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Re: PESO 2009 - 005 - GDG

2009-01-11 Thread Luiz Felipe
...come on, Godfrey... for the first time, I'll pass - hope you don't 
take it too hard.


LF

Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu:

From the Canary Wharf area, London  in 2005 ...

  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/005-thegoodship.jpg
  "The Good Ship.." - London 2005
  Pentax *ist DS + FA135/2.8 AL [IF]
  ISO 200 @ f/8 @ 1/125 sec

enjoy
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Re: PESO: Tonights Full Moon

2009-01-11 Thread Luiz Felipe
Walter, outstanding image. I intended to try the day before but chose 
the wrong position - atracted unwanted audience and had to take off 
fast. Congrats.


LF

Walter Hamler escreveu:

Supposed to be the largest one this year due to its closeness. A
similar event occured in Nov or Dec I believe.
Taken with the K20 and the Sigma 600 mirror lens.

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4577390_6uHqv#452570930_cpXfR-L-LB

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Re: PESO: Near the Arch

2009-01-11 Thread Luiz Felipe

Hey Rick, very interesting indeed - good pic!

LF

Rick Womer escreveu:

Cleaning up a few pix left over from the fall...

This is another from the St. Louis series, taken in the park that surrounds the 
Gateway Arch.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8317504&size=lg

(K10D, DA 50-200)

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Re: PESO Tulip Shake 1 or 2?

2009-01-11 Thread Luiz Felipe

Bless you! Number 2, by a nose.

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Christine Aguila escreveu:

Hi Everyone:

Bit of an accident here:  I sneezed & the tulip shook--then I kind of 
liked what I saw.  I'd be interested in knowing which you prefer-- 1 
or 2.


http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/tulip%20shake/index.html

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Re: PESO: barbq

2009-01-11 Thread Luiz Felipe

Nice pic - please be careful with the flame thrower...

LF

Paul Stenquist escreveu:

A nice day for a barbecue. I think I'll grill some ribs.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8491193&size=lg
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Re: Peso Auctions

2009-01-11 Thread Luiz Felipe
David, looks a very nice fire truck indeed, and I really wonder how high 
went the price...


Went to a car auction some time ago, looking for a usable carcass to 
re-new my ride, but came out empty handed - there is something evil that 
possesses the audience and makes them keep raising the price again and 
again...


LF

ok, are we going to see more pics of the fire truck

David J Brooks escreveu:

I went to an auction Saturday, just North of town.

Its the first one i have attended in probably 10-12 years.

I went alone.

I should not do that.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3187906165/

Saw this on the web site for the auctioneer, thought it would be neat
to have. It is from the mid 1800's, so I'm told. Cast iron fire truck,
so to speak.

Thought i might pick it up for $30-50 dollars.

I was wrong.

Never go to auctions by ones self.

K10D, 16-45, on board flash

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Re: Costa Rican earthquake

2009-01-10 Thread Luiz Felipe
Matter of fact I noticed the news - being slightly shaken three times 
made me aware of those happenings all around the world. Never been 
there, but have a fair idea of the hardship involved. Volcanoes are one 
of the deadliest wonders of this planet - and we can never be really 
sure of safety in those areas.


Stan, at the same time at another place some kids were born, and some of 
them to loving and willing parents, some were getting married, others 
divorced, some would be helping needed strangers, others would be 
stealing, and so on. Small as it is, this is a whole planet. We can't 
help but take it one bit at a time, and with so many bits around we have 
to look first to those we feel closer. And since there are good things 
happening out there we may as well look at them too. That's just human. 
Don't feel like you should be fully aware of everything, everywhere - we 
humans just can't.


Sadly, there are ones capable of celebrating human hardship based on 
most irrelevant differences. I quite don't think that's human.


Great photos, BTW...

LF

Stan Halpin escreveu:
Don't know how many of you noticed, I don't think it has been a major 
story, but there was a 6.1 or 6.2 earthquake in Costa Rica about 30 
hours ago. I have been tracking the relatively few stories that have 
come out. Since my wife and I were in the area of the epicenter last 
June, I have a personal connection! I read the comment about "we were 
on the viewing platform near the falls and the platform collapsed..." 
and I think, yeah I have several photos of me, of my wife, and of both 
of us standing on that viewing platform...


Actually it could have been any one of these or one of several others 
on that particular trail...


http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p192711468/h11d18ada#h11d18ada

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p821279748/h2ec6d1d0#h2ec6d1d0

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p821279748/h2ec6d1d0#h3e6b8755

I look at the photos of the roads that have collapsed and/or been 
covered by landslides and I recognize the road we were on on our way 
to the volcano and then to the falls. One or both of the photos I have 
sent to Mark for the upcoming PDML book were taken near the La Paz 
"luxury eco-tourist resort" as it is being described; reports are that 
the resort suffered heavy damage and they are working on evacuating 
guests and staff members, but the process is complicated by the fact 
that the road is gone.


What bothers me most about all of this is that, if I hadn't been there 
last summer, I might well not have noticed. Or if I noticed, I might 
well not have paid much attention. Assuming I am at least somewhat 
typical, that is a sad commentary on how inured we become to other 
people's disasters.


Oh well. End of philosophical  discourse. Back to your regularly 
scheduled programs...


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Re: PESO 2009 - 004 - GDG

2009-01-10 Thread Luiz Felipe
Hey Godfrey, a great black and white idea, about white and black 
bears... keep'em coming...


LF (just now hearing "Desert Moon by Great White", believe it or not ;-)

Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu:
Something a little different ... One of my candidates for the PDML 
photo book too, btw ...


  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/004-rescueme.jpg
  "Looking For Rescue" - Palo Alto 2008
  Pentax K10D + FA43mm f/1.9 Limited
  ISO 400 @ f/5 @ 1/15 sec

Comments and critique always appreciated... :-)

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Re: PESO - Dear Santa

2009-01-09 Thread Luiz Felipe
Nice letter Bruce! Look up for the best of each age as she grows. I 
sometimes wouldn't mind having my boy exactly as he was some 5 years 
ago... much easier to carry... ;-)


But then, that young he would not be able to teach me his fave 
dinosaur's name.


LF

Bruce Dayton escreveu:

I thought you all might enjoy seeing what my little girl created for
Christmas.  On Christmas Eve she worked really hard all on her own to
write a letter to Santa to leave on the hearth with a plate of
cookies and milk.  There was no urging on our part to do this, just a
little help from Dave Brooks, her spelling teacher to get the letter
written.  I will miss this kind of thing as she grows up...

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_6275.htm


Christmas morning after Santa 'Came thru' for her.

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_6290.htm


  


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Re: PESO: Heart of Stone

2009-01-09 Thread Luiz Felipe
Joseph, not every case of loss qualifies as tragic. Not 100m from my 
place there are some 30+ huts, built into the Maceio river banks, on the 
express purpose of being flooded in the winter. Were built for the 
'07~08 winter wich came rather tame, and now have all the comforts of 
modern life - they even achieved proper eletric supply, even if they are 
INTO the almost dry riverbed.


From past years, come any serious rain, I expect more than 1,50m of 
water above their floors - maybe 2m. I  wouldn't qualify those  souls as 
"uncapable"... and whatever happens to them as tragedy. That area is 
well known as flood area, they built just at the right time to have 
problems and almost any rain will get them wet. There are lots of cases 
of tragedy, however. People just seem unable to move until it's late.


Love water too, same sign, and agree with your proper range of 
elevation. Sadly, if I try that range here in Fortaleza I end up in 
another town - or in really big ca$$$h areas.


LF

Joseph McAllister escreveu:

Thanks for the thoughts, Walt.

Some of those in low lying areas here are going through the annual 
tragic loss of property and comfort. One wonders why they don't move 
somewhere else. Interviews on TV display statements such as "this is 
much worse than last year."  At what point does the riparian view 
become secondary to not having to cope with these almost annual floods 
and property losses?


I love water, love seeing it and hearing it. (sign =  Cancer) But it 
has never occurred to me to live next to or below the level of any 
body of water unless I'm a hundred or more feet above it. Right now 
I'm about 200 feet above the Snohomish river and Puget Sound. But my 
favorite dog park is under 3 feet of water because the dikes 
surrounding Ebey Island failed last night. And yes, if you Google 
Earth or Map , that's my photo 
of the dog park just north of Rte 2 in Panaramio if you have it 
enabled. (Shameless plug - please excuse) :-)


The worst thing that has impacted me the past few days is having UPS 
inform me that my shipment of gear from B&H has an "exception" because 
their trucks have been unable to get to the Seattle area thanks to 
major road closures in the passes and to the south, I-5. I see from 
this mornings tracking info that they finally arrived at 11 PM last 
night, and are out for delivery late this afternoon. Of course, I 
won't be here, as I have a an appointment in Seattle. Typical timing 
on my part, I guess.


On Jan 8, 2009, at 19:07 , Walter Hamler wrote:


Thanks Joe.
I have been following the weather out your way as my sister-in-law is
working out there on Mt. Rainer at the ski lodge for the season. I
hope she either doesn't freeze to death or starve!
When I was in the Navy at Whidbey Is. for 3 months in Feb 65 they told
me that people up there actually go crazy because of the weather!
Hope you all stay ok!

Walt

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Joseph McAllister  
wrote:

Pre-ci-o-sus!  Great capture of a loving feline...

I can't get my cat to do anything except eat, sleep, and knead me 
bloody. I
suppose it would help if we had some sun up here in the Pacific 
Northwest.

She might feel like going out and rubbing up against something.


On Jan 8, 2009, at 14:52 , Walter Hamler wrote:

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#451421583_Zz3Sw-L-LB 



She has a heart of stone, but he loves her anyway.  :-)

Walt


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Re: "Lustworthy"

2009-01-09 Thread Luiz Felipe
For the record, I don't dislike the idea of multicolor cameras. Just 
didn't like the white version. Living in a sunny place, I believe that 
camera will stay cooler than the black one, under the sun.


Anything that would sell more Pentaxes is welcome - I'd buy a 18% grey 
one - or a silver one, colors I like. Also, I suspect a colorful camera 
may help to get a smile from some subjects - I often got better smiles 
when using a "lowly" point and shoot. And many persons told me how 
impressive the hasselblad was - demanding some extra time to forget 
about "being photographed". Maybe a red camera would help. My old 
classmates would aprove - maybe even without sickle and hammer...


LF

ps: Sorry, somehow I managed to send a garbled version before. I guess 
my pc is more tired than I am.




Joseph McAllister escreveu:

Folow up.

The G1 comes in colors. I recently saw a photo of a deep red one 
somewhere. Photokina report?


http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/index.html

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Re: "Lustworthy"

2009-01-09 Thread Luiz Felipe
For the record, I don't dislike the idea of multicolor cameras. Just 
didn't like the white version. Living in a sunny place, I believe that 
camera will stay cooler than the black one, under the sun.


Anything that would sell more Pentaxes is welcome - I'd buy a 18% grey 
one - or a silver one, colors I like. Also, I suspect a colorful camera 
may help to get a smile from some subjects -


Joseph McAllister escreveu:

Folow up.

The G1 comes in colors. I recently saw a photo of a deep red one 
somewhere. Photokina report?


http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/index.html

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Re: PESO - A Winter Treat

2009-01-09 Thread Luiz Felipe
Nice photo, Frank, pity the consequences. I'm trying very hard to pass 
my son the idea animals are unpredictable, neither good nor bad, and 
best if observed from distance - no touching wild or unknown animals. So 
far, no scars...


LF

frank theriault escreveu:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/01/winter-treat.html

...and fifteen seconds later the little blighter nibbled the tips off
two of her fingers.

But still, it was a nice moment while it lasted.

;-)

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Re: SO, 32GB on a card isn't enough for you?

2009-01-09 Thread Luiz Felipe
Stan, my first personal computer used k7 tapes to store programs and 
files. Back then, my space-age machine offered 64kb of ram, and some 
time later we discovered 640 kb was enough for any user...


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Stan Halpin escreveu:
I used to think 10 megabytes was a lot of space. It was a really big 
deal when prices came down to the point that we were able to buy 10mb 
external drives for our office computers for under $1500...


stan

On Jan 8, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Peter Alling wrote:

A terabyte is a little less than I have on my still crippled desktop 
system in three drives, with about 2/3 taken up with my entire image 
output from my *ist-D and *ist-Ds.  I used to think a terabyte was a 
lot of space...


-Original Message-

From: Dario Bonazza 
Sent: Jan 8, 2009 9:33 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: SO, 32GB on a card isn't enough for you?

Peter Alling wrote:
A terabyte is a whole lot of jpegs, those who never change cards or 
print

a picture will be able to store several lifetimes of photography from
their p&s digital camera and never worry about running out of space...


By looking at my newly-established storage system, a terabyte is 
about 30%

more than all the silly things I've done so far.

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Re: PESO - Poplars

2009-01-09 Thread Luiz Felipe
Brian, I like the color a little more. The BW version would require a 
darker sky, for my taste. Very interesting photo.


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Brian Walters escreveu:

G'day all

These Lombardy Poplars along a drainage channel caught my eye a year or
so ago.  They had not yet come into new leaf and the trunks and branches
took on a silver/gold appearance in the late afternoon light.

Image processing disclosure - cropped top and bottom, mainly because of
a dark shadow in the foreground.  Some cloning along the bottom edge,
due to the same shadow. Slight boost to contrast.

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/114205/Poplars.html


I thought the trees might look good in black and white.  This is mainly
the
red channel.

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/114207/Poplars_in_Black_and_White.html


Comments and suggestions most welcome.



Cheers

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Re: "Lustworthy"

2009-01-09 Thread Luiz Felipe

I'd sell it to John, at discount prices - and keep the eneloops.

LF

Cotty escreveu:

On 8/1/09, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

That's what Engadget calls the white K-m / K2000 ...

"Let's just say this straight out: the white Pentax K2000 is one of the
hottest DSLRs we've ever seen. It's seriously lustworthy. Considering
how great the reviews have been, we'd say it's definitely worthy of a
spot on your list if you're in the market."

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/hands-on-with-pentaxs-new-lineup-
including-the-white-pentax-k2/
http://snipurl.com/9nxtu



I'm afraid if it was forced on me, I'd tape up the whole camera in black
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Re: Magazine Cover

2009-01-09 Thread Luiz Felipe

Congratulations, Paul! Great shot indeed!

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Paul Stenquist escreveu:
Some of you may recall seeing some of the pics I shot of a Dodge 
Challenger S/S prototype back in October. One of my shots is on the 
cover of the April issue of Mopar Action magazine, which will hit the 
stands in a couple of weeks. (Yeah, the predating of newstand mags is 
a bit nuts.) The magazine art directors did some nice work on it, 
particularly bringing out the grille details. They had to go in there 
and work at pixel level to brighten the grid. Here's the cover:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8482863

Here's  my original rendering:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8482860&size=lg

They used the same pic inside on a spread, along with seven other pics 
I shot that day, including my "Photoshopped" pan. (I told them how I 
cheated it, btw.) I'm pleased with the renderings, particularly the 
cover, which is on nice glossy stock.


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Re: OT Enablement

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe
Tim, I used + 2 and then +3 to check the focus on the ground glass when 
I had a 4x5. Sold the 4x5, but the glasses remain - as soldering aid, or 
when I have to use really small screwdrivers. But if you're using more 
than once in a while it's best to use good quality ones, that really fit 
you. Good as the generics may be, there is no replacement to good 
lenses... ;-)


LF

Tim Øsleby escreveu:

So far, what I know is that +1,5 (it was not +1) may not be perfect,
but they makes it less tiresome to sit in front off the screen. It
also reveals a lot of details I have missed before.

But thanks, I'll look into it.

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2009/1/8 Christine  Aguila :
  

Hi Tim:  You might want to get your eyes checked because there is computer
viewing distance & reading distance.  It might not be a good idea to use
dedicated reading glasses for computer monitor distance viewing.  When I
accidently have my dedicated reading glasses on and try to look at the
computer monitor,  the glasses give the monitor a concave distortion, which
isn't good for long time viewing--or even short-term viewing--very bad for
the eyes.  I have 3 pairs of glasses: bifocals, dedicated computer monitor
distance, and dedicated reading distance.  It's a drag to be sure, but it's
necessary.  Just thought I'd mention it.  Hope you don't mind :-)  Cheers,
Christine





- Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" 
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My best spent 7$ so far.
A set of +1 reading specs.
Now I'm able to see whats at my monitor :-)

I'm aging ...

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Re: Quite possibly the best photo I have ever taken

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe
Derby, great pic indeed - just keep posting and we'll tell you when you slip... 
;-)

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Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:37:49 +0100, "Dario Bonazza"  
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> Great! Great! Great!
> 
> Dario
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
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> Subject: PESO: Quite possibly the best photo I have ever taken
> 
> 
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> > I know I have had some copious amounts of wine tonight, but I may have 
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Re: Street Photography show in San Francisco

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe
Juan, impressive pics. For me, 
http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=show2009&image=L1002645.jpg 
, 
http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=show2009&image=k10d8199.jpg 
and 
http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=show2009&image=20081029-L1003929.jpg 
are the best ones.


Very good!

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Juan Buhler escreveu:

Hello Pentaxians,

I leave my usual lurking state to throuw a link out there:

http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=show2009

This is a preliminary (although it should be quite final by this time)
edit for my next show, at the Shenson Gallery of the St Francis
Memorial Hospital in San Francisco. If anyone is in the area, there's
going to be an opening on Friday the 16th, at 6:30pm. The address is
Hyde St, between Pine and Bush.

Any comments about the set, or individual pictures welcome. Please
disregard the slight toning variation in the files...

Thanks!

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Re: OT PESO - Pin Pricks in Space

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe

... dark noise, of course...

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frank theriault escreveu:

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:15 PM, David Savage  wrote:
  

G'day All,

Another from the trip down south, taken on new years day (night) (~270kb)

<http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/Pin%20Pricks%20in%20Space.jpg>

D700, Smegma 24-70mm f2.8 @ 24mm, 16 seconds @ f4, ISO 6400.

BTW, that isn't noise. It's stars.

Enjoy,




How could it be noise with the D700?

;-)

Tremendous photo. BTW.

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Re: OT PESO - Pin Pricks in Space

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe

... my gawd, it's full of stars...

David, another WOW pic - really wish I had clear skyes for a while. 
Since I read the msgs so far, my questions and then more answered, all 
I'm left to do is ask for more.


Luiz Felipe

David Savage escreveu:

G'day All,

Another from the trip down south, taken on new years day (night) (~270kb)

<http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/Pin%20Pricks%20in%20Space.jpg>

D700, Smegma 24-70mm f2.8 @ 24mm, 16 seconds @ f4, ISO 6400.

BTW, that isn't noise. It's stars.

Enjoy,

Cheers,

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Re: *ist DS storage question

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe
Well, I have NO experience with eneloops - may try, someday, and may 
even post the results here just to see what develops.


Each and every battery would behave in some particular way when 
presented to some particular camera, in some specific temperature, after 
X days of being charged by Z brand charger at Y volts versus A  
miliampers...  and the camera will try to judge the remaining capacity 
looking for a certain treshold voltage. And the voltage variations here 
should be small - and measured in actual use, so this voltage is not the 
one measured with ordinary meters. This measurement is made in presence 
of a demand.


How soon this specific camera will say that particular battery set is 
depleted? It will depend on a whole set of circunstances, but I'm 
positive there will be cases such as yours, William. Because that 
particular set feels better charged to the camera, as under its present 
demand the voltmeter stays in the green zone. I'm willing to bet some 
cents a different set of higher-rated batteries may endure a little 
longer if you use the flash more, or keep shooting at a faster rate, or 
the temp gets a little higher. Let's not forget the batteries in 
question may be good for other cameras even after being pronounced dead 
by one.


Each and every eletronic gadget has its own signature, about using 
energy. Some use much energy to power up, than very little to remain in 
operation. Those different uses will drain different batteries in 
(guessed right) different degrees. Static tests made with 
constant-demand dummy loads will never get the same  results, even if 
they're made by unbiased people. So both lab curves AND real world 
results by observing people with the same gear are important tools to 
find out which batt will work better.


If the amount of energy in those things would be equal to the amount of 
energy used discussing their use... :-)


LF

William Robb escreveu:


- Original Message - From: "Brian Walters"
Subject: Re: *ist DS storage question



I'm with you, Charles.

I've tried numerous brands and the Eneloops have proven to be far
superior to any of them in practice.

If others have had different experience, fine.  Use what works best for
you.

Having said that, I'm impressed with the non-rechargeable Energisers
that came with the K200.


I used a few different brands/ capacities of NiMH bateries with my 
istD before going to non rechargable lithiums.
I actually didn't see much of a correlation between MaH capacity and 
number of pictures taken.
The best performance I got was with some 1700 or so MaH batteries, 
which performed far better than the 2400 (IIRC) MaH batteries that I had.


William Robb

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Re: White K-m again...

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe
I'll just wait for the 18% grey version. I like the Darth Vader ordinary 
black better, anyway.


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Charles Robinson escreveu:


I had no idea that it was a limited edition..!  Now I have to have 
one!  Don't you?




Simply put: Nope!

Not unless they are going to have a gold "C3PO" version to go with it 
later. :-)


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Re: PESO - Crowding the Doors

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe
Frank, did you check the FBI about this guy? What if he's wanted for 
something?? What if he hates Pentax users??? What if every time he sees 
a camera  he feels the need to check the batteries in search of illegal 
eneloops


... BTW, this should be a low power joke...

LF

frank theriault escreveu:

I'm not sure if the fellow is disgruntled due to the crowds or because
he saw me taking photos:

http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2009/01/crowded-platform-bloor-station.html

Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Hageman Barn re-do

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe
Jack, I like the extra foreground, but the new color just seems to 
intense for the scene. I'd say the second framing with just a small 
increase in color from the first  shot would pretty much get it done - 
for this particular point of view. Keep that barn in check...


LF

Jack Davis escreveu:

In response to comments, I've taken down the sky to something more like its 
actual appearance and given it more foreground. I, also, roughly cloned in the 
bottom edge with dead grass to cover the asphalt edge of the roadway.
Early and late sweet light is certainly an option, but I feel this is more 
consistent with my impression at the time.

Jack

Any comments gratefully accepted.

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Re: SO, 32GB on a card isn't enough for you?

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe

Peter Alling escreveu:

A terabyte is a whole lot of jpegs, those who never change cards or print a picture 
will be able to store several lifetimes of photography from their p&s digital 
camera and never worry about running out of space...

  

... space enough to backup some mp3's and dvds, and even the pc system...

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Re: SO, 32GB on a card isn't enough for you?

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe

AlunFoto escreveu:

2009/1/7  :
  

<- Old foogy here. What the heck is a  terrabyte?



It's when the Earth bites back.

Jostein


  

... ouch...

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Re: PESO: Hageman Barn

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe
Well done Jack, and since it's near enough, do return. Ah, do post the 
new pics, too...


I was going to ask about the post, but read the other messages first - 
could you perhaps get closer? Both to avoid the road and fence 
altogether, and play with different framings. But I'd stay outside - and 
not too close.


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Jack Davis escreveu:

Gray, raw, dim day that seemed to suit this barn well. Was probably a little 
darker day than it appears.
I shot it because it's a barn. Have no other treason.

Jack 


All comments welcome


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Re: *ist DS storage question

2009-01-08 Thread Luiz Felipe
Hey Derby - thanks for the info. I can live with that counter display, 
assuming it counts down when I have less than 999 photos to take.


I believe I'll need to discuss the eneloop issue deeper,  however...

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Derby Chang escreveu:

Hi Luiz,

I popped a 16GB SDHC A-Data card into my *ist-DS I leave at work 
(powered happily by Eneloops, BTW). Other than the frame counter 
showing 999, it all works fine.


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Re: WOWs

2009-01-07 Thread Luiz Felipe
Godfrey, to some people there is no Photography - just Cameras and 
lenses and this and that.


Know one of them - buying gear every week, an awesome collection - and 
every time we meet he goes on and on about how this and that would be 
great for this and that situation. Then shows me latest gadget. Then 
speaks about next - what do I think??? Then we talk about going 
somewhere someday to take pics. Then we argue about the bill, then seeya 
next week.


Great fellow, great collection. Photos, just family meetings, most taken 
by his wife with one or other point and shoot.  Bet he would love the 
G1... just don't hold your breath waiting for the pics.


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Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu:
Macworld Expo is going on and I hear a lot of WOW this and that on the 
news and on line. I was in SF yesterday. Did a bit of gallery 
visiting. Visited the Macworld exhibition too.


Saw tons of people wandering around with massive DSLRs and big lenses 
hung from their necks, as well as big bag or backpack stuffed full of 
photo gear. I didn't see many pictures being taken, and I have to say 
that I wonder what the point of carrying 20 pounds of expensive camera 
gear around a show floor for several hours might be unless you're 
using it to make photographs. WOW.


It happened that I saw someone I'd met at a photo talk as I was 
leaving the show. He had a Canon 5D, four big lenses, bag o gear, etc. 
I asked him what kind of photos he was working on. "Haven't taken any 
pictures today. My back hurts, I'm going home," was his response. WOW.


I played with the Nikon D700 and D300 again at the Nikon booth. Nice 
... solid, professional quality cameras. Good lenses. I didn't bother 
to pick up the D3x or D3, I know they're great pieces of equipment. WOW.


My meander through the show was as it usually goes nowadays. I wander 
the edges of the exhibition space looking at the small booths and 
talking to people. The usual suspects were there, I picked up a couple 
of pieces of literature, talked to a few old friends and colleagues. 
It was a good show.


I had my modest shoulder bag, the G1 fitted with Olympus 25mm lens, 
some stuff for the galleries (a folio or two), and my usual complement 
of carryabout junk in the form of cell phone, ipod, notebook, voice 
recorder, pens, etc. About two-three pounds of stuff, total, and 
nothing in my pockets. People seeing me snap a photo with the G1 came 
running over to ask questions about it. The guy with the Canon nearly 
cried when I handed it to him ... the whole camera and lens weighs 
less than a third of one of his lenses. I only took a couple of photos 
there ... most of what I shot was on the BART train going to and from 
the city. Got a couple I like ... so far.


Later in the evening, I attended a bon voyage party for a couple of 
friends heading out on a year's sabbatical. I had the same camera with 
me and made a few family and friends snapshots. It's small, 
unobtrusive, unthreatening appearance makes it a snatch to engage with 
people ... the equipment disappears in my hands, just like my old 
Leica M did.


Now *that* was the best WOW of the day. :-)

Godfrey
  Equipment often gets in the way of photography.

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Re: Quite possibly the best photo I have ever taken

2009-01-07 Thread Luiz Felipe
Derby, great pic indeed - just keep posting and we'll tell you when you slip... 
;-)

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Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:37:49 +0100, "Dario Bonazza"  
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