K20D and K200D cashback in the UK
http://www.pentax.co.uk/_uk/photo/cashback.php £100 on K20D and £50 on K200D from 11th June to the end of August. Shame I bought mine already... Rob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Sigma 10-20 vs Pentax 12-24
One thing I would consider is what you want to use the lens for. For me, wide angles are generally for landscape photography and this introduces an additional issue to consider - the sun... The Pentax SMC coating has always been far better than Sigma at avoiding flare and ghosting and for this reason alone I would strongly consider it. Don't get me wrong - I have a lot of Sigma glass and many of the EX lenses are great but these particular lenses are going to have a bug hunk of glass catching the sunlight. I think these are both very fine lenses, and neither would be a bad choice but my money would be on the Pentax. Mind you I also buy my Pentax gear from somewhere that give me a free 3 year guarantee which helps. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timber Sent: 06 May 2008 22:45 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Sigma 10-20 vs Pentax 12-24 Hi list! I am planning to buy a WIDE angle lens. I am hesitating between the Sigma 10-20 and the Pentax 12-24 (maybe Pentax 10-17 Fisheye) As the price the Pentax 12-24 is almost 2 times as the Sigma 10-20 but as I read the reviews both are good lens. Actually I am wondering if the Pentax one worths it's price compared to the Sigma one or should I go for the Sigma? Is there any noticeable IQ or CA advantage to the Pentax? Some says the Sigma becomes best if stopped down... but I would like to have a lens which is good at wide open too. So any advice? Is the Pentax that much better than the Sigma as the price shows or not? :D Thanks, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Flash for K10D
Failing that, another thing that might be worth considering is if you buy another AF-360GZ which breaks somewhere else, you would be able to use the other one for spares? If you can fix it for $40 that sounds the best bet though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 29 April 2008 14:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Flash for K10D If it's the same as the 540, you can purchase the hot-shoe module for about $40. It attaches with four screws, and the electrical connections are by means of a single plug. Replacement is a five minute job. Paul On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:08 AM, Amirkambiz Hamedanizadeh wrote: My problem with my Pentax AF-360GZ, was as you mentioned that the hot shoe is broke. Do u think it is worth to fix it? The flash itself did not drop. Cheers, Amirkambiz -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:00 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Flash for K10D The 540 is superb in terms of consistent exposures and overall performance. The hot shoe locking mechanism is a bit fragile, but ti's okay if you're careful. I've used the Sigma EF 500 Super as well, and the Pentax is much more accurate in terms of exposure. Paul On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:08 PM, Amirkambiz Hamedanizadeh wrote: Hi, I used to have the Pentax AF-360FGZ, which is broken and they ask for lots of money to repair it ( Norway, sweet Norway☹). So I decide to buy one more flash and I dedicated around 250 US$ for a flash, I wonder which flash do you recommend. I do not think any time I need wireless feature. 1. Pentax AF-360FGZ 2. Pentax AF-540FGZ 3. Sigma EF-530 DG ST 4. Sigma EF-530 DG Super I appreciate your recommendation. Cheers, Amirkambiz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Sigma 100~300 f/4 DG APO lens
I have had one for a good few years. Used it a lot on the MZ-S back in the film days. My lack of time to follow the hobby these days and also the type of photography I have done for the last couple of years mean it hasn't even been tried on the K10D or K20D yet, and maybe not event on the *istD... Must get it out again. Anyway, I found it a fantastic lens, and AF was good on the MZ-S - as I found at the Duxford PDML meet. Very sharp but very heavy. Although I found it not significantly heavier than their (also superb) 70-200 F2.8 and the range was better for me at the time. There are a fair number of reviews here: http://www.photographyreview.com/cat/lenses/35mm-zoom/sigma/PRD_85165_3128crx.aspx I don't believe they have built an HSM version for Pentax yet, so bear that in mind. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: 28 April 2008 15:19 To: AlunFoto Cc: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sigma 100~300 f/4 DG APO lens The DA* 300? Very good. Solid as a rock. I like it a lot. To the point where I concider selling my other long lenses. Optically it beats the shit out of the Tamron adaptall 300/2,8 and the K-500/4,5. It is good fully open, and very good at f:5,6. I've used it with the Pentax 1,7x AF TC. That combo definately needs a bit stepping down. But at f:10 it only needs a minor contrast boost in PP to deliver. I'm really waiting for the new TC to come. The only point that I'm not confident in is the AF. Far to easy to easy to distract. And it tends to go in the wrong direction. But this could be me, or the body, or both (me and my body) I'm not used to AF and long glass, so I don't know what to expect. All this said. I've read a lot positive about the Sigma 100-300/4. Mostly from Canikon birders in Norway. I've seen very good pictures from it. Seems to perform very well with the matched TC. There is also a guy at pentaxforums who has both the Sigma and the DA* 300. According to him they are on par with each other. I find that hard to beleave. There is conflicting inforamtion about HSM on this lens. But it seems tha DA* 60-250 really needs to deliver to compete. 2008/4/27 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey Tim Ø, How's your new baby coming along? Jostein 2008/4/27 Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The 300/4 will be available any day now. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday as new K10D with warranty (body only)
OK, I have taken the plunge and upgraded to the K20 and now need to recoup some of my outlay by selling my trusty K10D. Bought January 2007. Have taken about 1500 shots with it. Should still have 20 months warranty from the Pentax Pro shop wher I got it (Kamera Altrincham otherwise known as http://www.equipmentexpress.co.uk) as there was a 3 year warranty on it. I have emailed them today to make certain this can be transferred, but I don't imagine there would be a problem. Incidentally I got my K20D from them too because that free warranty is great. I also got their price down to match competitors who arent giving any extra warranty! Comes boxed, without a mark on it and with all the CDs, instructions, cables etc. If you didn't look at the picture count you wouldn't know it was not new. Comes with the first firmware upgrade (V1.1?) to enable wireless flash but havent upgraded it since then so you could still get into the service menu and adjust the focus (something I never got round to because my lenses were very accurate on it). Offers in the region of £300 delivered in the mainland UK, or it will go on ebay shortly. Please feel free to ask any questions, or to request a picture etc. Cheers Rob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - personal gps satnav question
I am not aware on one which will feed an external monitor, but even if you did, you would still need access to the unit to use the touch screen for control purposes - although I guess if it were in a pocket between the front seats you could still do this... I know the Navman units don't allow it. If you email the guys at http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk they will be able to tell you - as well as give you one of the best prices around! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 13 July 2007 11:37 To: pentax list Subject: OT - personal gps satnav question Thanks for looking. Is there anything on the market that will allow connection from a GPS (like a TomTom etc) to an external monitor? I have a 7 inch LCD on my dash that shows me the view from the reversing camera on my truck. It can switch between inputs and has an AV connection - are there any Satnav products you know of that will allow me to hook up to this external monitor? Dash real estate at a premium. System is vehicle- based, so hard-wired not a problem. TIA -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT - personal gps satnav question
Actually, looking at it you might have some luck with a PDA running satnav software. The PDA will not be as good as a dedicated unit but is more likely to feed an external monitor (although I don't know much about PDAs to be honest!). Rob -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham Sent: 13 July 2007 12:13 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT - personal gps satnav question I am not aware on one which will feed an external monitor, but even if you did, you would still need access to the unit to use the touch screen for control purposes - although I guess if it were in a pocket between the front seats you could still do this... I know the Navman units don't allow it. If you email the guys at http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk they will be able to tell you - as well as give you one of the best prices around! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 13 July 2007 11:37 To: pentax list Subject: OT - personal gps satnav question Thanks for looking. Is there anything on the market that will allow connection from a GPS (like a TomTom etc) to an external monitor? I have a 7 inch LCD on my dash that shows me the view from the reversing camera on my truck. It can switch between inputs and has an AV connection - are there any Satnav products you know of that will allow me to hook up to this external monitor? Dash real estate at a premium. System is vehicle- based, so hard-wired not a problem. TIA -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Camera Raw 3.7 is Here
I have no problem dealing with it, and you are right that the options arent tough - but I would rather spend 5 minutes dealing with it once every 4-5 years than have to do it every time I download images from a card. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: 19 February 2007 19:10 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Camera Raw 3.7 is Here Kind of reminds me of the Y2K problem - the older programmers thought they wouldn't need to deal with it, so didn't...until... Since you know you are going to end up with the problem, why not just come up with a solution now, instead of having to go back and fix it later? The solutions aren't really too tough. -- Bruce Monday, February 19, 2007, 9:41:16 AM, you wrote: RB Looks interesting. I am sure if I were shooting a lot more it would RB be worthwhile, but it is a little overkill for my current needs. I RB am sure that by splitting the range I have I can last at possibly as RB long as a couple of years before overlap occurs. I can then do a RB simple rename changing the prefix on the existing images (I can RB write a util to do this in 5 mins if I don't already have something) RB and off I go again. RB Will take a look and think about whether something more useful would RB be worthwhile though... RB Cheers to all who responded. RB Rob RB -Original Message- RB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf RB Of Paul Sorenson RB Sent: 19 February 2007 14:29 RB To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List RB Subject: Re: Camera Raw 3.7 is Here RB Rob - RB It's an extra piece of software, but if you're running Windows you RB might RB look at Downloader Pro. RB http://www.breezesys.com/Downloader/features.htm RB It has some nice features for transferring from card to computer, RB including batch rename as part of the download process as well as RB creating unique folders on the fly. Since I use both a DS and a DS2, I RB simply set my file names as I download them with DS_image number or RB DS2_image number. RB -P RB Rob Brigham wrote: IS there an easy way to manually set the next file number? From reading the manual it seems I can do this by renaming a file as IMGP5000.PEF and putting it on and SD card then taking a new picture - thereby setting the counter to 5001? I want to do this so that the naming is different to my *istD by having a start number that wont overlap (for some time...). Cheers Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: 19 February 2007 05:33 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Camera Raw 3.7 is Here And it supports the K10D. I just installed it. Download here: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=3587fileID = 33 77 http://tinyurl.com/yu9m82 Hooray! My SD storage capacity just expanded greatly. Now I am going to reset my K10D to PEF format. Joe RB -- RB PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List RB PDML@pdml.net RB http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Camera Raw 3.7 is Here
DS2_image number. RB -P RB Rob Brigham wrote: IS there an easy way to manually set the next file number? From reading the manual it seems I can do this by renaming a file as IMGP5000.PEF and putting it on and SD card then taking a new picture RB - thereby setting the counter to 5001? I want to do this so that the naming is different to my *istD by having a start number that wont overlap (for some time...). Cheers Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: 19 February 2007 05:33 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Camera Raw 3.7 is Here And it supports the K10D. I just installed it. Download here: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=3587fileID = 33 77 http://tinyurl.com/yu9m82 Hooray! My SD storage capacity just expanded greatly. Now I am going to reset my K10D to PEF format. Joe RB -- RB PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List RB PDML@pdml.net RB http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net RB -- RB PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List RB PDML@pdml.net RB http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: IIIIIIIIIIIII
Fabulous - would love to have been there to see it. You did a great job on this shot. Rob - Original Message - From: Fernando Terrazzino Subject: PESO: I I'm probably more inclined to pay attention to frozen lakes, as I come from a warmer place. http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=395612866size=o -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Camera Raw 3.7 is Here
IS there an easy way to manually set the next file number? From reading the manual it seems I can do this by renaming a file as IMGP5000.PEF and putting it on and SD card then taking a new picture - thereby setting the counter to 5001? I want to do this so that the naming is different to my *istD by having a start number that wont overlap (for some time...). Cheers Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: 19 February 2007 05:33 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Camera Raw 3.7 is Here And it supports the K10D. I just installed it. Download here: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=3587fileID=33 77 http://tinyurl.com/yu9m82 Hooray! My SD storage capacity just expanded greatly. Now I am going to reset my K10D to PEF format. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Camera Raw 3.7 is Here
Looks interesting. I am sure if I were shooting a lot more it would be worthwhile, but it is a little overkill for my current needs. I am sure that by splitting the range I have I can last at possibly as long as a couple of years before overlap occurs. I can then do a simple rename changing the prefix on the existing images (I can write a util to do this in 5 mins if I don't already have something) and off I go again. Will take a look and think about whether something more useful would be worthwhile though... Cheers to all who responded. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Sorenson Sent: 19 February 2007 14:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Camera Raw 3.7 is Here Rob - It's an extra piece of software, but if you're running Windows you might look at Downloader Pro. http://www.breezesys.com/Downloader/features.htm It has some nice features for transferring from card to computer, including batch rename as part of the download process as well as creating unique folders on the fly. Since I use both a DS and a DS2, I simply set my file names as I download them with DS_image number or DS2_image number. -P Rob Brigham wrote: IS there an easy way to manually set the next file number? From reading the manual it seems I can do this by renaming a file as IMGP5000.PEF and putting it on and SD card then taking a new picture - thereby setting the counter to 5001? I want to do this so that the naming is different to my *istD by having a start number that wont overlap (for some time...). Cheers Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: 19 February 2007 05:33 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Camera Raw 3.7 is Here And it supports the K10D. I just installed it. Download here: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=3587fileID= 33 77 http://tinyurl.com/yu9m82 Hooray! My SD storage capacity just expanded greatly. Now I am going to reset my K10D to PEF format. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Eneloop batteries on DS or Flash?
Damnit - I have just spent more money that I didn't really need to! Seriously though, these sound like they will be the perfect answer for my flash and also for the istD now that it will be dormant as a backup body assuming the K10 takes over now it is on the scene. They are far from cheap in the UK...! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Robinson Sent: 26 January 2007 14:39 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Eneloop batteries on DS or Flash? On Jan 26, 2007, at 8:05, Dave Kennedy wrote: Anyone using Eneloop batteries in their cameras or flash? Just wondering how they perform. Dell.ca has a good one-day deal on them today. I've been running them in my DS since mid November. It's a delight to just pick up the DS and use it (especially after letting it sit for a week - poor camera!) without having to think about whether or not there is a charge left in there. I just picked up another set to put into my Sunpak flash. Soon I'll get a 3rd set for my Sigma Flash and I'll be quite satisfied. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Warranties Pentax stuff within the EU
I am sure it has been debated at length in the past, but I am considering buying a lens from Germany to be shipped to the UK. Will this come with an international Pentax warranty that Pentax UK will honour? I think I am right in saying that it does, but would like reassurance - it is quite a significant cost saving...! Thanks Rob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Warranties Pentax stuff within the EU
Thanks - will check this with the suppliers. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: 25 January 2007 12:32 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Warranties Pentax stuff within the EU As I understand it as long as the place you buy it from fill out a Pentax International Warranty Certificate it should be covered. Cheers, Dave On 1/25/07, Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure it has been debated at length in the past, but I am considering buying a lens from Germany to be shipped to the UK. Will this come with an international Pentax warranty that Pentax UK will honour? I think I am right in saying that it does, but would like reassurance - it is quite a significant cost saving...! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: eBay Communications PART 2
That's nothing - read this little lot if you have some time on your hands: http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=322205 Pretty hilarious! Certainly puts me off selling on ebay regularly although I do on occasion when I must... Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 24 January 2007 10:08 To: pentax list Subject: eBay Communications PART 2 Steve, In your advert you say operate your camera from 200yds distance using this gear and the item will be exactly as described or I will offer you a full refund. I have not had time to test the item at all, but I did read the manual last evening and it says that the maximum direct transmission range is 100 m/330ft. I will return the item in the same secure packaging and by the same method of post for full refund. With regret. Regards Peter Broadbent (Ahar - knew it! Trouble with a capital T. I checked the book and indeed he was right - the book says 100 metres, but I have used it past this distance fine on full batteries. Nevertheless, I did make a mistake in my listing, which is unusual for me. Anyway I'd had enough of this bozo, so decided to call his bluff..) Peter, I have tested the item at 200 yards and it works. I will not be offering a refund on this item. The item is as described. Please do not send the item back as I will not be refunding you in this instance. Please feel free to take the matter up with eBay. I will be forwarding all email exchanges between us to eBay for consideration. Regards, Steve C. Steve, Have checked with Canon Support and the item is for use up to a maximum range of 100 metres. Please reconsider your position and accept that you will refund in full. Regards Peter Hi Peter, I have read the Canon literature and concede the point that it does indeed say that the LC-4 is capable of a range up to a maximum of 100 metres. However, I have used the LC-4 past that maximum. But that is a moot point. Other points you may wish to consider: You claim to have read the details on the auction page but in case you missed it, anyone with negative feedback should have emailed me first before bidding. In fact you bid and won the item with some negative feedback, in total contravention to eBay's policy as listed here: http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/unwelcome-buying.html I was minded to cancel the auction and file a complaint. However, I did not. Your 2nd and 3rd emails to me were not what I would describe as 'friendly', and indeed I found them threatening. Bidding and buying on an item in an eBay auction is supposed to be final. In fact I am happy to refund on any item that is not as described - a totally optional and friendly gesture. The Canon LC-4 Wireless Remote Control that I sold to you was as described in full working order and in mint condition. The fact that I may have detailed one fact with an incorrect number (according to Canon) is relevant but not, in my opinion, reason for a refund. The fact is that you have had the item for several days now - you claimed you needed it in a hurry, and I went against my better judgement and sent it off earlier than I normally would have (again a friendly gesture). And now you claim you have not even had the unit out to test it? I am what I would consider to be a reasonable chap - I'm not out to con anyone. Never have and never will. I provided an item for sale in good faith. Anyone buying from eBay should do their own research and consider carefully the deal they are entering into. Regards, Steve C (If I had listed it correctly at 100m working distance, I would not entertain a refund, unless the unit was faulty. I'll list my lessons learned at the end of tail) Steve, Have now tested the item and it appears NOT to be working. Have spoken with Canon who are having a technician call me back to ascertain whether or not this is so. Will update you when I have a response. Regards Peter Peter, If this is the case, and the LC-4 is not working, then of course I will honour a refund, including your postage costs. However, if the item is returned to me and I test it and find it to be working, then it will be packaged up and returned to you. regards, Steve C Steve, I have faults identified with the transmitter plus the item being not as described in your auction description. I shall return the item to you asap and if I do not receive a refund in full by return I shall not refer the matter to eBay but place the matter in County Court without further reference to your good self. Regards Peter Peter, I will gladly receive the item back. I will then test it myself, and if I find the item to be in good working order, I will send it back to you by return. Your idle threats about county court action do not frighten me, so threaten away. If I test the item and I find it is faulty, I will gladly refund you, and offer my
RE: eBay Communications PART 2
My personal policy is to not leave feedback until the other party has left for me. Of course if they do the same then no-one leaves anything. My overriding policy is not to leave feedback for anything I don't want the missus to know I have bought, and sometimes to ask the seller to do the same! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 24 January 2007 13:31 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: eBay Communications PART 2 My personal policy eith eBay auctions is not to leave any feedback at all unless the auction is exceptional in some way, either good or bad. For a routine transaction - price reasonable, money transferred without problems, product shipped without much delay and received in good condition - I neither give nor expect feedback at all. No different than any other commercial sale outside eBay. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Official K10D Firmware v1.10
Just in time for my new arrival! Thanks for posting the link. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hamilton Sent: 23 January 2007 01:08 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Official K10D Firmware v1.10 http://www.pentaximaging.com/customer_care/show_firmware?firmId=8793673 Enjoy. -- -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Official K10D Firmware v1.10
Update applied. I have a question that someone may be able to help with. Received the K10 at work today, but don't have any lenses at work to try it out (silly me!). When going into the flash mode selection, wirless is shown but it is greyed out and cannot be selected. Is this because I don't have a lens mounted for some reason? I don't quite understand this. Obviously I can answer this when I get home, but that is a long 7 hours away...! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Brigham Sent: 23 January 2007 09:31 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Official K10D Firmware v1.10 Just in time for my new arrival! Thanks for posting the link. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hamilton Sent: 23 January 2007 01:08 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Official K10D Firmware v1.10 http://www.pentaximaging.com/customer_care/show_firmware?firmId=8793673 Enjoy. -- -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Official K10D Firmware v1.10
Thanks - that puts my mind at rest! Cant wait till tonight... Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: 23 January 2007 12:03 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Official K10D Firmware v1.10 On 1/23/07, Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When going into the flash mode selection, wirless is shown but it is greyed out and cannot be selected. Is this because I don't have a lens mounted for some reason? Yes. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: A little *ist D statistics - regarding Value for money
I actually look at my value from the *istD in another way: One of the first dozen shots I took with my *istD (all just test shots of my kids, then 3yrs and 1yr old) was worth the price of the camera alone - even if I had dropped it in the sea the next day and lost all of my money. I was trying out ISO 1600/3200 and the shot I got would not have happenned with film, not to mention that I wouldn't have been shooting the kids at that time had I not bought the D and wanted to test it out. Every day's use since then has been a bonus. Like the £1000 camcorder I bought 4 yrs ago, and have only shot 10 hours of video with. I am currently editing these and putting them on DVD. I have just replaced the camcorder with a 3ccd version from Panasonic, so that works out £100 per hour of video over the last 4 years. Expensive, but when these are the best memories of your childrens early lives it is worth every penny. In 20 years time if I didn't have this video I would gladly pay 10 times that for the opportunity to go back and film it! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: 21 January 2007 08:26 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A little *ist D statistics Hello All Since I am soon to receive my K10D, which will partly replace my *ist D, I guess a little statistics is in it's place. I had it for 29 months. I did 45000 shots I paid app.. 1180 USD incl. CF-cards, for it. That's the total cost - just about. That's in average 52 shots every day. Each shot cost me 0,4 USD or 4.4 cents That's 2.3 USD every day. Something like 5 cigarettes every day (Danish price level). I don't smoke BTW. If I had used film and my MZ-S this figuring would have been very different: I would have taken only 33 % of the number of shots = 15.000 shots I would have been able to use the camera for 29 more months before it got obsolete, reducing the cost of the camera to 50%. I would have used 417 films at a total cost of app. 6000 USD Each shot would have cost me app. 0.5 USD, which is about 10 times the cost of a digital shot ! In total I would have spent app. 7000 USD. About selling photographs: I believe the *ist D did pay for itself - a couple of times actually, during it's 29 months of hard labour. If I had used film I would have lost money - I guess I would have spent perhaps 3000-4000 USD, that no one but me, would have had to pay. No wonder digtal cameras are so popular. Soon I will (almost) retire the *ist D. It will serve as a back-up body - or my wide angle body, when ever I use two bodies simultaneously - one wide angle lens and one tele lens. The final economics of the K10D will no doubt be even better than described above, since the camera is less expensive and more ressourcefull (67% more pixels in each shot and Shake Reduction will probably mean, that I will sell more photographs). The only REAL BIG DOWNSIDE: I will certainly miss TTL-flash!!! Regards Jens -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.1/640 - Release Date: 01/19/2007 16:46 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: RAW processing for K10D
Thanks to those that replied. Hopefully the camera will arrive soon, and I will be able to try it out! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: 19 January 2007 17:57 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: RAW processing for K10D I have Adobe CS2 and use Adobe Camera Raw for all my RAW processing from the istD. I seem to recall seeing mention that this doesn't support the PEF files from the K10D though - is that right? - Rob: Correct. But presumably this will come in the next release. - If so then presumably the obvious answer is to use DNG (think I have seen lots of people doing that) and pass this through Camera RAW - I really don't want to learn another tool in the first instance having got used to this one. If doing this, do I need to do anything special to calibrate Adobe RAW for the DNG files from the K10D? - DNG files from the K10D seem to come up in ACR just fine. The Auto settings work as they did before, or you can set manually. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash
Order is placed with supplier - delivery Monday!! This is just what I have been waiting for. Just knowing the wireless will be sorted is enough for me, even if I have to wait a few days for the official firmware. Big thanks to Pentax...! (and to all those who have tested and verified it works for me) Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J and K Messervy Sent: 19 January 2007 06:56 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash I have zero patience and willpower, so the new firmware is in. Wireless flash works a treat! - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: K10D pre-release firmware 1.10 now wireless flash Do believe I'll wait for the real release by Pentax, but... will the download/installation process be simply stated and clearly explained. After downloading, I have the feeling that I'll not have the slightest idea what to do to load it to my K10D? I do know where the USB cord is but no idea as to the process. I love to fret. Jack --- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firmware for K10D IS here... http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21716233 1.10 Firmware can be downloaded from here: http://www.4shared.com/dir/1796154/f4cc7649/sharing.html -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ __ TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RAW processing for K10D
Now that I have decided to take the plunge (thanks to re-instated wireless support), I just wanted to check something. I have Adobe CS2 and use Adobe Camera Raw for all my RAW processing from the istD. I seem to recall seeing mention that this doesn't support the PEF files from the K10D though - is that right? If so then presumably the obvious answer is to use DNG (think I have seen lots of people doing that) and pass this through Camera RAW - I really don't want to learn another tool in the first instance having got used to this one. If doing this, do I need to do anything special to calibrate Adobe RAW for the DNG files from the K10D? Obviously I could go and search for this but there are just too many posts and a lot of discussion about RAW workflow etc which makes a lot of work to wade through. If someone can help me be lazy it would be much appreciated. Thanks (axcited) Rob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: what kind of soft case came with your 77mm Ltd?
My Black 77 has a green bag with a big Gold Pentax on it - don't think it says the focal length. Came from Japan via Sunny Brighton. Could be that this differs from country to country or batch to batch? Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: 16 January 2007 01:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: what kind of soft case came with your 77mm Ltd? Amita, All the black limited lenses have black case with no writing on them. The black case would be for the black 77mm limited. Regards, Bob S. On 1/15/07, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finally ready to photograph my 77m Ltds. so I can sell them on ebay. I have both a black and a silver one. I found one green soft case that says 77/1:1.8, and one black soft case that just says Pentax on it, with no focal length or anything. Could the black one be the one for the black 77mm? I don't want to lose money on my sale because the case is missing. Thanks, Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of KMount?
I think a bigger issue may be that FF + SR in the same body would make for a very large camera. Even if the two couldn't work together, the firmware could automatically crop a certain number of pixels from the edge when SR is turned on. At least for wide angle landscapes where you don't need SR, you would get the bigger image area. But look at the size of the K10D, and that is because of the APS sized SR mechanism. Imagine how big an FF sensor indide such a mechanism would be - not to mention that you would need much stronger magnets etc to move the larger sensor. I am not convinced that they would put both in the same body. However I would like to see 1.2 or 1.3 crop sensor with SR, and/or FF sensor without SR. There would be applications for bigger bodies without SR, even if they would be more niche players. I would dearly love to be able to use my 77 for portraits again, but on the smaller sensor the FOV is just not wide enough for indoor shots. So I use the 50 1.4 which is fine, but I fell in love with the 77 and would give my left arm to use it as intended again, but on digital... Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: 21 December 2006 15:54 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of KMount? I'm having trouble with identifying Shake Reduction as a problem for full frame sensor cameras. Everybody is talking like the shake reduction movement is centimeters of travel. Look at some of the side by side comparisons. Remember some of the old time discussions about 'circle of confusion' at 1/1000th of an inch. Shake reduction is going to be a movement of very tiny proportions. 1 to 3 pixels on a sensor that is 3000+ pixels wide. If our full frame lenses can't deal with that small amount of moving or miss positioning, I would be really surprised. Bring on the full frame! Comments or corrections to this logic??? Regards, Bob S, On 12/21/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main argument at the moment is SR, as it is in the K100/10D, wouldn't work. Supposedly current full frame Pentax lenses projected image circle wouldn't be large enough to cover the moving sensor. As some people think that SR is more useful than a FF sensor, that's their reason for thinking Pentax FF is a pipe dream. Time will tell. Cheers, Dave P.S. Welcome. On 12/21/06, Tom Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Im kinda' new here, but one of the things I picked up in passing is that the K-mount might be fundamentally incompatible with a full-frame DSLR? Or did I miss something? If I didnt, please explain to me what the issue is, as I was under the impression that if you put a sensor the size of a 35mm frame in the same place in reference to the lens as a 35mm frame of lens, it would all work out just peachy. Why not? I hope not, as I am hoping that the bigger sensor will give the quantum physicists more to work with to give us all the resolution we can eat AND bring dynamic range more in line with film. From my understanding, this is likely an either/or proposition with an APC sensor. Cant have both. TIA -Tom in SC -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: firmware upgrade for K10D?
The second that is official and beyond doubt my name will be on an order list somewhere, until then I remain skeptical... Any more hints of this gratefully received! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Fairweather Sent: 20 December 2006 17:16 To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: firmware upgrade for K10D? Mes amis According to the website for the French magazine Chasseur D'Images, there will be a firmare update early next year which will enable the internal flash to trigger other flashes zut alors Peter le Pentaxiste -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Paul Stequest Will not stop sending me harrasing private emails
Two points: 1 You have been told far more than TWICE, in the few of your flame wars that I have actually read parts of, to stop posting here - did that stop you? 2 Did you ever try simply not replying to any of his personal emails? Would have been worth a shot if what you REALLY wanted was for the emails to stop, rather than wanting to win the battle. I am not condoning or comdemning what he did in private emails - right now I don't give a damn and don't feel a lot of sympathy towards you based on the little I have read that you have been involved in lately. I would far rather he insult you in private than you insult him and the entire list in public by posting this here and dragging us all in. Sorry if that is not what you wanted to hear... Please grow up. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell Sent: 18 December 2006 14:08 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Paul Stequest Will not stop sending me harrasing private emails Good, now I can reply. He sent me a whole bunch of personally attacking insulting PRIVATE EMAILS I did not want. He continued doing it even after I politely sent him simple replies that asked him to stop emailing me TWICE. That is not trying to get the last word in , that is trying to get rid of a psycho. He does not have the right to do that to anyone and its an abuse of the list information to use private emails to harrass people. I did NOT start the exchange, he did, and I repeatedly asked him to stop poitely and he would not. thats why I have brought his behaviour to the listmasters attention. This kind of thing is unexcusable. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:38 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Paul Stequest Will not stop sending me harrasing private emails HAR! I did send him an e-mail asking him to lay off Tom in regard to the television. Of course he had to get the last word in. I decided to see if I could outlast him. The man needs help. Paul -- Original message -- From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am a being repeatedly harrased by Paul Stenquist in private emails. He will not stop emailing me with harrassing letters. He has been asked repeatedly to stop with no harrassment in return and he wont. He got my private email address from this list and to be using it to harrass me in my private email box has got to be an abuse of the list information and privacy rules. Who runs this list? Would someone please inform him that this is incredibly wrong thing to be doing to me or anyone. Specifically when they have been told repeately to stop emailing me privately and without any harrassment whatsoever in doing so. This behavior of his simply beyond belief. jco = Paul Stenquists still writes to me in private emails: repeated plain requests to stop: For your own good, you should try to get help. Some counseling could go a long way toward solving your problems. On Dec 18, 2006, at 12:09 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: YES I WILL RESPOND, DONT EVER EMAIL ME HERE LIKE THIS AGAIN. IF YOU DO I WILL REPORT YOU TO THE LIST, ITS GOT TO BE HARRASSMENT AND ABUSE OF THE LIST PRIVACY RULES. STICK TO THE LIST. NO MORE PRIVATE EMAILS JCO -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D image quality
Thanks for that Dario - I have only had a look at the K10D/EOS400D shots so far but there is a big difference in favour of the Pentax as you say! If it werent for the nobbled wireless control I would be taking pics with one myself by now. I am still holding out to see if there is another model to follow which might tick all of my boxes, but am getting more and more tempted by the K10D I must admit... Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dario Bonazza Sent: 01 December 2006 08:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D image quality Yesterday I spent a couple hours comparing pictures with a friend who is a pro in picture manipulation and pre-press services, sort of a wizard with picture tweaking (and has been very critical with Pentax DLSR's quality in the past). We compared and optimized the following pictures: K10D: http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/74252-5136-16-1.h tml http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/74256-5136-16-2.h tml (one of the two, not sure which one) EOS400D/Kiss DIgital X: http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/74250-5136-17-1.h tml Nikon D80: http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/74161-5136-17-2.h tml Alpha100: http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/74157-5136-18-1.h tml By direct comparison, the K10D picture wins. However, the big difference really comes when you try tweaking the images (Shadow/highlight, Noise Ninja, and the like). After proper tuning, there is a huge difference in favor of the K10D: detail, dynamic range and presence (not sure how to describe that perception, it's the feeling of objects being truly there, so that they look real and you can even touch them). That's sign that the image contains more info to work on. Now my friend (who always criticized Pentax DSLR's) thinks the Pentax is truly ahead of the bunch of 10MP cameras, and wants one for him too. Dario - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:26 AM Subject: K10D image quality There may be wailing and gnashing of teeth over on DPReview about perceived problems with the K10D, but my initial impressions with my new K10D are that this camera delivers astonishing image quality! Images are much sharper right out of the camera (even with the same lens) than my istDL. The colour balance and rendition are vastly superior to the istDL and the tonal gradations and shadow detail (in fact dynamic range in general) are also vastly superior to the DL. Every shot from the DL had to be quite drastically tweaked in levels to get rid of the red cast in every shot. Levels, curves, selective colour and slight selective saturation adjustments are part of my regular workflow for images from the DL. Last night, I found that a very quick and subtle tweak of levels and curves were all I needed to get more than satisfactory results from my K10D files. They really do POP! I also did an experiment with the same lens, same settings on the tripod, etc between the two cameras. I shot RAW and converted to JPEG with no adjustments whatsoever. Unfortunately, I resized them a little too small, so I'll redo it with larger files, but the difference between the two was staggering. In isolation the istDL shot looks okay. When compared to the K10D shot, the istDL shot is unacceptably soft, muddy, underexposed and red. The difference really did blow me away. Long story short...even though I had built the K10D up a huge amount, it has certainly met my expectations. The only issue I've had is the shake reduction appears to be a little intermittant. Sometimes it works (you can hear it during exposure) and sometimes it doesn't. Cheeers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D image quality
Immediate thing that comes to mind here is that the K10D shot has waaay too much contrast and the mid range in addition to the shadow areas are dissapearing into blackness. I think you have also gone too far (on my monitor) away from the red cast and the K10D shot now has a greenish cast. I have to say that I would be seriously unhappy with the K10 shot here - unless processing is the cause... Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 November 2006 23:50 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D image quality Here's the link to the comparison shots...as I said, they're tiny but the difference is very noticeable. Both were iso200 with auto whitebalance in aperture priority with the lens stopped right down. http://tinyurl.com/y5mqe4 Another interesting thing is that these files have been resized to exactly the same number of pixels, however the K10D file is about 25% larger. Clearly the K10D captures and retains more data. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There may be wailing and gnashing of teeth over on DPReview about perceived problems with the K10D, but my initial impressions with my new K10D are that this camera delivers astonishing image quality! Images are much sharper right out of the camera (even with the same lens) than my istDL. The colour balance and rendition are vastly superior to the istDL and the tonal gradations and shadow detail (in fact dynamic range in general) are also vastly superior to the DL. Every shot from the DL had to be quite drastically tweaked in levels to get rid of the red cast in every shot. Levels, curves, selective colour and slight selective saturation adjustments are part of my regular workflow for images from the DL. Last night, I found that a very quick and subtle tweak of levels and curves were all I needed to get more than satisfactory results from my K10D files. They really do POP! I also did an experiment with the same lens, same settings on the tripod, etc between the two cameras. I shot RAW and converted to JPEG with no adjustments whatsoever. Unfortunately, I resized them a little too small, so I'll redo it with larger files, but the difference between the two was staggering. In isolation the istDL shot looks okay. When compared to the K10D shot, the istDL shot is unacceptably soft, muddy, underexposed and red. The difference really did blow me away. Long story short...even though I had built the K10D up a huge amount, it has certainly met my expectations. The only issue I've had is the shake reduction appears to be a little intermittant. Sometimes it works (you can hear it during exposure) and sometimes it doesn't. Cheeers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D image quality
OK so no processing - then the question is whether processing could fix the serious (in my book) problems in the K10 image. If I only had these jpgs to choose from, I would most definitely take the dl shot. The colour cast could be fixed and a touch more contrast and sharpening would solve the problems there. This small K10 jpg would be a lot harder if not impossible to correct if detail has been lost in the shadows. Now I would imagine that correcting the K10 shot in the RAW conversion would far beat the DL shot but the point being made here was about how they looked out of camera and it doesn't look good in this instance at least, in my opinion. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J and K Messervy Sent: 01 December 2006 10:57 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D image quality Read the post. There's been no processing of either file. I'll take the k10d shot over the muddy, red dl shot any day. - Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: RE: K10D image quality Immediate thing that comes to mind here is that the K10D shot has waaay too much contrast and the mid range in addition to the shadow areas are dissapearing into blackness. I think you have also gone too far (on my monitor) away from the red cast and the K10D shot now has a greenish cast. I have to say that I would be seriously unhappy with the K10 shot here - unless processing is the cause... Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 November 2006 23:50 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D image quality Here's the link to the comparison shots...as I said, they're tiny but the difference is very noticeable. Both were iso200 with auto whitebalance in aperture priority with the lens stopped right down. http://tinyurl.com/y5mqe4 Another interesting thing is that these files have been resized to exactly the same number of pixels, however the K10D file is about 25% larger. Clearly the K10D captures and retains more data. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There may be wailing and gnashing of teeth over on DPReview about perceived problems with the K10D, but my initial impressions with my new K10D are that this camera delivers astonishing image quality! Images are much sharper right out of the camera (even with the same lens) than my istDL. The colour balance and rendition are vastly superior to the istDL and the tonal gradations and shadow detail (in fact dynamic range in general) are also vastly superior to the DL. Every shot from the DL had to be quite drastically tweaked in levels to get rid of the red cast in every shot. Levels, curves, selective colour and slight selective saturation adjustments are part of my regular workflow for images from the DL. Last night, I found that a very quick and subtle tweak of levels and curves were all I needed to get more than satisfactory results from my K10D files. They really do POP! I also did an experiment with the same lens, same settings on the tripod, etc between the two cameras. I shot RAW and converted to JPEG with no adjustments whatsoever. Unfortunately, I resized them a little too small, so I'll redo it with larger files, but the difference between the two was staggering. In isolation the istDL shot looks okay. When compared to the K10D shot, the istDL shot is unacceptably soft, muddy, underexposed and red. The difference really did blow me away. Long story short...even though I had built the K10D up a huge amount, it has certainly met my expectations. The only issue I've had is the shake reduction appears to be a little intermittant. Sometimes it works (you can hear it during exposure) and sometimes it doesn't. Cheeers James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D image quality
If you click on the image you get a slightly bigger image than the thumbnail. The problem with the levels due to the over the top contrast is quite evident there - even at that small size. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kostas Kavoussanakis All that from a post-it size jpg? Am I missing something here? http://tinyurl.com/y5mqe4 Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: report on Mini PDML LONDON
Was great to see everyone. The market was soo much more interesting than I remember (from 15 years ago - at which time I was probably more than a little drunk!). Saw the guy with all the piercings in his face, but didn't get a good shot alas. Not really my style of photography either - I am an out and out landscape photographer by passion, and really struggled in the melee of the place. Got a few shots which were OK at showing the place, but nothing I would even begin to be proud of. Fascinating place though, and I wont be leaving it so long before I go back. Shame you couldn't record the fabulous food smells as you walked around - I nearly had to have a second lunch! Sorry that I didn't find any of you at the end, couldn't hang around too long and left about 5:30 - but it sounds like you lot may have already left anyway. I will have a look through my shots tonight but they may or may not get shown! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 16 October 2006 08:51 To: pentax list Subject: Re: report on Mini PDML LONDON On 16/10/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Ten Pentaxians came together at or near the appointed hour in Camden Town. We found a place to have a bit of lunch, enjoyed an hour or so of conversation, food and drink, and went off to meander the busy bazaar and streets with cameras in hand. Around 5pm, we went our separate ways happy and with a bunch of photos in our cameras ... A great time! Truly enjoyed seeing everyone, discovering the Camden Locks lunacy with you all. Pictures will follow once I arrive home later this week. Thanks for being there. :-) Thanks Godders. It was a very brief meeting for Alma and I - we arrived late (after an unscheduled diversion on the underground) and had to leave early to pick up our son. It was pleasant seeing everyone. Sorry to Steve from DPReview and our own Rob from Reading - didn't get to say good-bye as we had to dash off while you were in the market somewhere. Camden (locks and market etc) is a very busy place on a weekend with plenty to do and see, but too much for me. I'm a country bumpkin now and the outrageous crowd numbers I found too overwhelming. I think I took about four shots and deleted them all - not a good shooting day. I think I'm entering a more 'focussed' phase where I know exactly what I want to shoot, rather than do the photographic equivalent of pick-pocketing. The company was great though, and nice to see Bob and Godders again, and we met Skye and her husband (I'm crap with names - was it Edward?) and her sister. Alma took lots of shots, including one that I will publish shortly that leaves little to the imagination ;-) Thanks all. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Mini PDML LONDON
Looks like I may be able to join you guys - not been to Camden for a looong time either. Are these details still valid? Cheers Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 03 October 2006 23:30 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Mini PDML LONDON Just a heads up - Mini PDML get together in London (UK) on Sunday October 15th. Time: 2 - 2.15pm Location: Outside Camden Town Tube Station Beacon: Cotty - 6'5 with blue cap on Occasion: Godfrey's UK Tour Highlights: Camden Market, locks and canal, hustle and bustle Names here please 1. Godders 2. Cotty + 1 3. Bob W 4. Skye + 1 5. Richard (Godders' Pentaxian friend) 6. Mystery Pentax UK rep with goodies! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Interview w/Pentax exec
Add to that list: C. Landscape photographers - many of whom havent gone digital because (I think) most MedF solutions need to be tethered to a PC, need mains power, or are just too bulky to use in the field. Some of these may have gone digital (if so then many would probably look to the 35mm FF solutions) but probably few find digital up to the standard so also shoot film still. The 645 would (hopefully) be a good field use camera and not have any huge competition in this market, albeit a slightly niche market I guess. You still (at least up to a year ago anyway) find Pentax highest penetration in this market among professionals as far as I can see - the 645 and 67 are quite common in UK outdoor mags. I don't think the 645D is particularly aimed at studio photogs because there are solutions which will be fine for them already - albeit expensive ones...! Pentax may win some of these on price, but not sure how many. Just my 2c Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: 28 September 2006 13:15 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec I will argue with that. MF users are: a. Wedding Photographers many who have gone digital, but some of them are actually going back to film; and b. Studio Photographers who have probably only gone 50% digital, some of them actually shoot digital and film in parallel. Actually the only area where digital is an overwhelming advantage are news, and event photography. Oh, yes, and snapshooters who have to see their image to know if they got what they thought they got. Which brings up an old story. It was January 1961 I was in basic training, I had just bought a Kalimar A at the Base Exchange for $24.95, I also got a roll of Kodachrome. My first 35mm camera, and my first roll of color film. Over the weekend I wandered over the base taking pictures of everything in sight. I got that roll of Kodachrome back, it had 17 black slides and 3 dim ones. Back to the BX to buy a light meter, that was when I realized that photography was going to be an expensive hobby. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Digital Image Studio wrote: On 28/09/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax's pro users have been largely medium format for many years. Whether they can retain a share of this market is uncertain, but they probably have a better chance in MF than in pro grade FF SLR. I understand where you're coming from Paul but I sincerely expect that any pro who used Pentax medium format equipment has likely moved on to a new digital system of some type. I can't help but believe that the vast majority of Pentax MF shooters these days are amateurs. Few of which will likely shell out for a new P645 even if it comes in at under US$5k (and as you may recall I've said similar before long ago but it seem more and more likely as time slips by) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Interview w/Pentax exec
I'd pay $500 more for wireless via RTF!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 28 September 2006 16:38 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec I'd pay $500 more for a FF sensor body at 12MP. Tom C. From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:13:06 -0700 Going to 12MP from 10 will be an even smaller step than going to 8MP from 6, so they'll have to throw lots of other nice stuff into the equation :) I'm thinking cast magnesium chassis, higher frame-rate, CF and SD cards, bluetooth, etc. grin - This is a puzzle. The K10D is so well spec'd that I don't see what value can be added that would warrant spending another $500 to $700 on it at retail. A gold band to match the DA* lenses? Seriously, what could be added to warrant a substantially higher price? (Don't suggest sensor. That's too easy, and too speculative.) I wouldn't pay $500 more for a magnesium chassis or 5fps. And once I've stocked up on SD cards, I will no longer be interested in a CF slot. Thanks for the report, Ken. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Samsung has spoken (sort of)
Not an answer, but see http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/samsung_09212006_gx10_pr.html Lens Mount: PENTAX KAF mount compatible with PENTAX KAF2, KAF and KA mount lenses Power zoom function - Not available K-mount lenses - usable with restrictions S-mount lenses - usable with adapter and restrictions 67/645 lenses - usable with adapter and restrictions They are obviously seeing K mount owners as part of their market, and it wouldn't make a lot of sense for them not to do the green button thing if Pentax does it. Of course making sense does not always win the day (look at the wireless RTF issue)...! Rob At 11:51 PM 22/09/2006, P. J. Alling wrote: No way to know until someone trys it. Samsung isn't making a big deal about, probably since they don' see former and current K mount owners as part of their primary market. On 9/22/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it (or any Samsung) have the aperture-actuator botch? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(
To me, this is far more serious than losing use of the aperture ring. Almost all of my indoor flash photography is done with the wireless 360 bounced and the RTF providing a little fill to avoid shadow cast. This means I can bounce the 360 off the most appropriate surface because I can point it in any direction (I hand hold it), and I don't have to mess around if I change the orientation of the camera etc. I usually only mount the 360 on the shoe when I need more range from it. I am not gonna use 2 flashes because the whole thing just gets too cumbersome then, and people will think I am even more mad than at present...! Lack of CF support annoyed me a little, but I could see the sense in it. Lack of AA support seriously annoys me, but if that is the price for the other features then I guess I have to live with it. I am not sure I can accept the flash limitation though - this is a serious issue for me, and a really stupid move on Pentaxes part. One of the best loved features on their cameras of late, and one which helped enormously to overcome the hassle of having to go P-TTL. NOT HAPPY!!! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylwester Pietrzyk Sent: 15 September 2006 08:28 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net List Subject: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-( I just have read FAQ on japanese K10D page using babelfish and: Q: The Strobo it can photograph with the wireless? A: Wireless photographing is possible by the fact that 2 AF540FGZ or AF360FGZ are used. With the built-in Strobo wireless speed light photography is not possible. Why? It was quite useful. Now you have to have two dedicated flashes to have wireless... If they could implement this functionality in low end analog bodies like MZ-6 or *ist and in *istD, why they couldn't in their newest flagship??? For me it's a one of the biggest ommisions in otherwise excellent camera. Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(
Hope you are right Paul. Cant believe they would do something like this - there is no justifiable reason for it, unless you were selling a camera without RTF. The use of RTF other than as a controller could arguably not belong on a higher end model like this, so if they were going to nobble it, they would be better to remove it altogether and make the camera significantly smaller IMO... Fingers crossed! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 15 September 2006 12:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-( You can use the 360 as a slave. I also suspect that this information might be wrong. It doesn't make much sense. I wouldn't get my shorts in a knot over it quite yet. On Sep 15, 2006, at 5:53 AM, Rob Brigham wrote: To me, this is far more serious than losing use of the aperture ring. Almost all of my indoor flash photography is done with the wireless 360 bounced and the RTF providing a little fill to avoid shadow cast. This means I can bounce the 360 off the most appropriate surface because I can point it in any direction (I hand hold it), and I don't have to mess around if I change the orientation of the camera etc. I usually only mount the 360 on the shoe when I need more range from it. I am not gonna use 2 flashes because the whole thing just gets too cumbersome then, and people will think I am even more mad than at present...! Lack of CF support annoyed me a little, but I could see the sense in it. Lack of AA support seriously annoys me, but if that is the price for the other features then I guess I have to live with it. I am not sure I can accept the flash limitation though - this is a serious issue for me, and a really stupid move on Pentaxes part. One of the best loved features on their cameras of late, and one which helped enormously to overcome the hassle of having to go P-TTL. NOT HAPPY!!! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylwester Pietrzyk Sent: 15 September 2006 08:28 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net List Subject: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-( I just have read FAQ on japanese K10D page using babelfish and: Q: The Strobo it can photograph with the wireless? A: Wireless photographing is possible by the fact that 2 AF540FGZ or AF360FGZ are used. With the built-in Strobo wireless speed light photography is not possible. Why? It was quite useful. Now you have to have two dedicated flashes to have wireless... If they could implement this functionality in low end analog bodies like MZ-6 or *ist and in *istD, why they couldn't in their newest flagship??? For me it's a one of the biggest ommisions in otherwise excellent camera. Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D on Pentax Germany site
Can you confirm if RTF fires the newer Pentax flashes in P-TTL? Sorry if this is becoming a crusade, but I desparately want to know as it is V important to me, and probably many others too! Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylwester Pietrzyk Sent: 15 September 2006 12:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D on Pentax Germany site On 15.09.2006, at 12:26 , Cotty wrote: You still have the prototype? Or did you do some evaluation a while back? I have prototype since monday, today I have to give it back ;-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
English K10D brochure
http://www.pentax.no/accounts/433774/File/Datablader/8690.pdf Interesting - you can apprently select intermediate ISO values, presumably meaning not just the presets. Is also says you can adjust sensitivity when doing in camera RAW conversion. This presumably is what is meant by ISO on the screen, but still not specifically saying what it does... No mention of using RTF for driving wireless... Loads of accessories bags etc... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(
This is what concerns me - I have been looking for something on the menus, or a button like we have to select the 'channel' number. Havent seen anything. If this isnt on there I will have to be seriously re-evaluating my purchase of this camera, such is my need for this. I love (almost) all of the features on the K10D more than words can say, but my *istD still does me fine and if I can only use the new camera for 50% of my photography, and have to go back to the *istD for the other half then I am just not sure that I can buy into that. It may seem like overreacting, but 90-95% of the indoor shots I take use wireless triggered by the RTF and I am not going to carry both around all the time so I can juggle which one to use based on this feature. This means the K10D could get left at home too often to justify... I am still hoping, but not so positive anymore Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lawrence Kwan And the writing is on the wall when you see no wireless flash Master control settings in the custom settings. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Anyone know what happened to Peter from sunny Brighton
He got me and istD before they were available outside Japan last time, and was looking to get in touch again (for obvious reasons) but he doesn't seem to post on then list anymore and his email says he is away until march 2007. Is he off travelling or something? Cheers Rob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Does this mean what I think it means?
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/PentaxK10D/Images/Captures/TV2006090616253900-01.jpg This shot which illustrates the in camera RAW processing does indeed suggest setting ISO after the event? Or are they just misleading by using ISO in the display to mean brightness in general? Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 13 September 2006 21:44 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Does this mean what I think it means? What program allows ISO changes during RAW conversion? Exposure yes, ISO no. -Adam Dario Bonazza wrote: ISO setting during PC conversion is common stuff. ISO seting during in-camera conversion is what they claim. Dario - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: Re: Does this mean what I think it means? Toralf Lund wrote: From the Pentax France Page: Le traitement interne des fichiers RAW permet d'agir sur la taille, la compression, la balance des blancs, le réglage des ISO (Pentax est le seul), le ton de l'image, la saturation, la netteté et le contraste. via Babelfish: The internal treatment of files RAW makes it possible to act on the size, compression, the balance of the white, the adjustment of the ISO (Pentax is only), the tone of the image, saturation, clearness and contrast. It sounds like ISO adjustment in post is possible with RAW files. That would be an earth-shaking capability. Really? I've always been thinking that since the lower few bits in current high-ISO shots is essentially just noise, you might get output of the same quality by shooting at a lower ISO (and under-exposing), then multiplying up the pixels from the RAW file... But what this sound like to me (who doesn't speak much French, either), is merely that details on the ISO setting that already was applied, will be stored in the tags of the file. (And maybe ISO adjustment will be a somewhat more complex operation in this camera?) - Toralf However, that would not be a 'Pentax Only' feature, which they are claiming. ISO adjustment in post would be. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D batteries
Also, on http://www.dcview.com.tw/article/newreadarticle.asp?id=4865 It says something to the effect: D-LI50 lithium-ion battery power, can take approximately 500 images (CIPA standards, the use of flash lighting images 50%), and the fuselage with special batteries and single-use batteries can handle three CR-V3 batteries. Again - looks more promising at last! Rob http://www.escapebeyond.net/dieni/photos/equipment/2.jpg http://www.escapebeyond.net/dieni/photos/equipment/1.jpg Looks like they should be changeable with Aas or at least CR-V3s - yah if they are!! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D batteries
http://www.escapebeyond.net/dieni/photos/equipment/2.jpg http://www.escapebeyond.net/dieni/photos/equipment/1.jpg Looks like they should be changeable with Aas or at least CR-V3s - yah if they are!! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D battery pack and charger
Yes, storage. You can also store a remote control in there too. Must be quite large to pack all of that in...! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: 13 September 2006 16:17 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D battery pack and charger Looks like we maybe able to use 3 kinds of battery. Though why does the grips pack have an SD card in it? Just for storage? Dave On 9/13/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=20005793 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
More K10 'rumour'
Not long till the press release, but while we are waiting the following was offered on photozone: 22b ADC CCD 100,000 exposure shutter (guaranteed?) 1/4000 top shutter speed 1/180 flash sync speed Dust and moisture sealed Dynamic range twice as good as Sony A100 Plastic outside on a stainless steel subframe/chassi RAW + JPEG, 3.3 frames per second Supersonic in-lens motors support Kelvin manual white balance Li Ion battery pack DBG2 Weight 730grams with batteries 1. 22-bit ADC The K10D incorporates a high-performance A/D converter, which faithfully converts the analog data collected by the CCD image sensor into digital data. With the highest resolving power (22 bits, or 4.2 million gradations) among all existing digital cameras, it offers a digital-conversion capacity 1,024 times greater than conventional 12-bit, 4,096-gradation A/D converters. 2. D-BG2 Battery Grip Developed for exclusive use with the PENTAX K10D, this battery grip can be used in combination with the camera's rechargeable lithium-ion batteries to greatly extend the battery life. With an extra shutter-release button, preview lever, electronic dial, AE-lock button and green button, it makes vertical-position shooting simple and effortless. It also features the same dust-proof, water-resistant construction as the K10D camera body. Marketing date (tentative): Mid October, 2006 (at the launch of the K10D) Power source: Exclusive lithium-ion battery (D-LI50 type) Dimensions: 140 (W) x 43 (H) x 73.5 (D) mm (excluding protrusions) Weight: 235g (without battery) 3. Compatibility with supersonic motor-driven lenses The K10D is designed to be compatible with supersonic motor-driven autofocus lenses (currently under development), which are expected to provide smoother, quieter autofocus operation than conventional lenses. 4. Newly designed PRIME imaging engine: The K10D incorporates the new PRIME (PENTAX Real Image Engine) as its imaging engine. Designed exclusively for PENTAX digital SLR cameras, this new imaging engine produces well-balanced, true-to-life images through efficient control of CCD signals, saturation, brightness, white balance, sharpness and contrast. Its new memory (DDR2: Double Data Rate 2) also serves to enhance speedy image processing and high-speed data transfer. 5. Dust-proof, water-resistant construction The K10D boasts a reliable dust-proof, water-resistant construction, with special seals applied to 72 different parts of the camera body, including the shutter release button and switches/levers/dials. This dependable body makes it possible to use the K10D in the rain or at dusty locations without worries. 6. Powerful rechargeable batteries for extended shooting The K10D features new, large-capacity lithium-ion rechargeable batteries, which can capture approximately 730 images** when fully recharged. ** Under testing conditions prescribed by the CIPA standards (flash illumination used in 50% of images). 7. Dust Removal system to keep dust off the CCD surface The K10D features the new Dust Removal (DR) system to prevent dust from sticking to the surface of the CCD image sensor (or low-pass filter). Applied to the CCD surface through a vapor deposition process of a fluorine compound, the PENTAX-original Special Protect (SP) coating effectively removes dust and stains from the surface. In the next step, dust that still remains on the surface will be shaken off when the SR system shifts the CCD at high speed. The dust that is shaken off the CCD will fall onto an adhesive sheet positioned at the bottom of the SR unit, eliminating any possibility of its returning to the CCD surface. 8. Sensitivity-Priority mode: The K10D features a new Sensitivity-Priority AE (Sv) mode, which is designed to automatically select the optimum combination of aperture and shutter speed for a user-selected sensitivity. The sensitivity can be shifted instantly (in 1/2 or 1/3 steps) by turning the electronic dial. Since this mode eliminates the need to recall a menu screen for sensitivity changes, the photographer can react more quickly to changing photographic conditions. Oh, and it of course still has 10Mp CCD, in-body Shake Reduction, HyperProgram and HyperManual modes, 11 point AF with 9 cross sensor, 0.95x pentaprisma etc... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: The Croc Hunter is no more
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GBword1=great+white+shark; word2=saltwater+crocodile Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Sent: 05 September 2006 13:36 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: The Croc Hunter is no more who'd win in a fight: the great white shark or saltwater crocodile? (I love these silly arguments! :-) ) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net mike wilson wrote: From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/05 Tue AM 09:50:42 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: The Croc Hunter is no more On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:50:13 +0100, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes wrote: King Cobras are not much smaller, but I'd rather be bitten by a python. King Cobras are much, _much_ smaller than the largest constrictors. From Wikipedia: K Cobras 18.5 ft (it doesn't mention a record, but I have seen mention of 24 ft.) Pythons20 ft (the record is 32 ft. I don't suppose the person who met the biggest cobra lived to tell the tale!) I don't know what the average size of a King Cobra is, but in East Africa (home of many pythons) you seldom see a python longer than 15 ft. So much, much, smaller is not, in my view, correct. Well, Cobras are a fair bit shorter and the largest constrictors (I'm not getting into the Python/Anaconda argument) are considerably greater in girth, so in my view it is. 8-) I wasn't aware of any geographical restrictions on the discussion. And as for Black Mambas... give me a croc any day. You might have a better chance of running from a croc but, if either of them got to you, the Mamba might be a quicker way to go. Neither would be painless. Black Mambas are big, very poisonous, fast, and, crucially, extremely aggressive. George Ionnides, the greatest snake collector of all, feared no other snake but gave Black Mambas a very wide berth. His book, if you come across it, is an excelent read. You can meet them anywhere, and if you are close they will usually attack. With crocs, you know where they will be, and if you have any sense you will be on land, in which case it is quite likely that they will be basking in the sun like a coster, and give you no trouble. Black Mambas are thought to kill more people in coastal East Africa than all other wild-life combined. And incidentally, I wouldn't choose to be bitten by a python. I was simply voicing a preference if the alternative were a King Cobra. John I thought we were comparing crocs and mambas? My point is that, if either of them actually gets to you, the mamba would probably be the quicker way to go. Not exclusively and neither pleasantly. Enough morbidity! Let's talk about photography. Does Pentax make a lens long enough to shoot mambas in the wild? I think the 600/4 would be more of a burden than an asset. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D Facts and speculations v2
http://www.photozone.de Don't know if I can link to the exact topic but it isnt hard to find! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: 01 September 2006 04:42 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D Facts and speculations v2 From Rob Brigham: Hi guys - been lurking and not managing to keep up with the list for some time but starting to get K10D urges! From Roland Mabo: - Rob, can you give us the url for this? I assume it is from dpreview, where Roland is a regular, but I cannot find it there. Thanks, Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D Facts and speculations v2
Hi guys - been lurking and not managing to keep up with the list for some time but starting to get K10D urges! From Roland Mabo: 10.2Mp APS-C sized sensor Hardware noise-killing processing (The K10D will have the lowest noise at high ISO of all the 10Mp cameras, thank's to new noise-killing technology by Pentax/Samsung.) (Hardware) Dust removal function 3 fps JPEG streaming (The hardware noise-killing technology slows down the image processing so it isn't possible with more than 3 fps, but in future versions of this technology they may be able to speed it up to allow for faster frames per second) RAW + JPEG possible 22 bit image processing and built-in RAW-JPEG converter (SilkyPix algorithms?) SDHC compatible card slot Li Ion battery pack, AA batteries also possible Li Ion battery/hand grip, AA batteries possible (You can use Li Ion or AA batteries in the camera, it comes with a Li Ion battery pack and charger, but it's designed as 4xAA's or 2xCR-V3 in one unit. Simply remove it and use AA batteries. The optional battery pack/handgrip uses the same solution, so you can use 2 x Li Ion's or 4 x CR-V3's or 8xAA's.) Dust and weather sealed body and battery/hand grip Full metal body (Metal outside and inside, inspired by MZ-S construction) KAF3 lens mount with USM motors support (Don't know what they will call it yet) New DA 16-50 f/2.8 AL ED and 50-135 f/2.8 ED with USM motors. Interchangeable focusing screens Pentaprism viewfinder 11 point AF with 9 cross sensor points (same layout as the current bodies). No more power zoom. + many other neat things. Oh, and a link to Pentax dust removal patent: http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOCIDX=JP2005354330F=0 The camera is currently on a secret tour around the world, it has been presented for various VIP's (distributors, salesmens, journalists, professional photographers etc.). The factory is in pre production state now, scheduled to go into full production mid September, shipment starts late September/early October. Expected price with DA 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 AL kit lens - approx 1 000 USD. Take care R -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D - facts and speculations
The bigger question I guess would be whether these new USM lenses also have the mechanical linkages to work on older bodies? I have a strong suspicion that they will not, but would love to be wrong... If not then it is less useful to have an ist(any flavour) or K100(unless it gets enabled) as a backup body. Rob Brigham Badger Software Ltd www.badger.co.uk 0118 9464488 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sylwester Pietrzyk Sent: 31 August 2006 16:28 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D - facts and speculations On 31.08.2006, at 17:02 , Cotty wrote: So let me get this right. If USM or it's Pentax-monikered equivalent is introduced, anyone that wants to take advantage of it is going to have to buy new lens(es) ? Exactly. One must have lenses with built-in USM motor for USM to work :-) But I guess new mount would be back compatible, so older lenses would work the way they usually did ;-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D - facts and speculations
Yeah - Have actually been having to do some work at work, shocking as that may sound! As we do crisis management software, things have been crazy at work since a certain even in London just over a year ago. I have ended up deleting whole weeks of emails at a throw because there is no way for me to keep up with reading the list, never mind posting... Cant contain myself at the moment though - feel some spending coming on! Rob Sylwek wrote: Welcome back Rob, I haven't read you for years :-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: LONDON PDML 2005 more pics up
Just wanted to add my huge thanks to Cotty for organising things and to all the other 'listers' for turning up and making it so good. I absolutely love London (particularly the diversity as you walk around) but don't spend nearly enough (leisure) time there. I also live the PDML and the folk on here, but don't spend nearly enough time here these days (damn work!)... So the opportunity to combine both was not to be missed. Borough market was fantastic. I never knew the place existed, but shall visit again in the future. I loved the place so much that I would be hard pressed to say which of that or the London Eye was best. Not to say the Eye was anything less than stunning! Perfect time of day to be up there - must say I was glad not to have to join the rather large queues too. I just love seeing any big city from up high at night. The Eye was over too quickly though, or at least the time seemed to go very fast - as was the case for the whole gathering. As others have suggested it would be nice next time to have more time to chew the fat with the other folk, and perhaps not such a hectic schedule - but I wouldn't have changed the itinerary for the world. Some great pics from everyone already - I shall add my own to Photosig when I get round to it (damn work again). Toodle pip - back to the grind now... Rob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2005 20:16 To: pentax list Subject: LONDON PDML 2005 more pics up More pics from the weekend. It's all on one page, 23 pics about averaging 40 kb (sorry dial-uppers - why not make a nice hot cup of tea while it loads ;-) Enjoy: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/london.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: LONDON PDML - final update
Just wanted to confirm I will be there - booked at the Hotel all. Be great to see everyone again. Am hoping to make the market for lunchtime, if I can build our new garden furniture one evening this week or in the morning on Saturday for the folks to use over the weekend. Will be getting the train up to the hotel, drop bags then meet up as soon as I can find y'all. As an aside - I am looking to clean the sensor on my istD soon, and rather nervous (for no good reason other than fear of the unfamiliar). Would welcome if anyone could bring along the device they use for me to examine, and give me tips on how to use it (plus info on where to buy/make it). Will be V busy all week so may not be checking the list too often but will deffo be at the meet! Rob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 May 2005 14:01 To: pentax list Subject: LONDON PDML - final update Sorry to keep bombarding the list with this. Final update available here: http://www.cottysnaps.com/londonpdml2005.html Attendees have been notified off list. Best, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Where's Cotty?
MG Rover was the remainder of British Leyland I believe, after Jaguar some other bits were extracted from the group in the late eighties. British Leyland was formed I think when all the UK manufacturers were in trouble with the idea that together they could survive. MG Rover had some tie ins with Honda in the early nineties, before being sold to BMW who really wanted the Land Rover business. They made masseive losses on the rest of the group, so sold MG Rover for £10 to a rescue consortium of British wheeler dealers. BMW had already sold Land Rover to Ford after milking their knowledge of Off-Roaders, and Kept mini which is doing good business. MG recently has only been a badge for the 'sporty' Rovers, and there will be no more MGs, or Rovers unless or until someone buys the names. MG racing which was separate has also ceased most of its activities as I thibnk it depended on money from the main group. -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 April 2005 20:35 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Where's Cotty? John Francis wrote: Keith Whaley mused: I read in today's paper of the imminent breakup of MG Rover. Last large car maker in the UK. Sad that! They said some 5000 will lose their jobs. Will Rover be able to survive on it's own? There is no Rover as a separate entity. Land Rover hasn't been part of the Rover group for some time. Uhhh, you're telling me, Rover as a CAR does not exist anymore? Nobody makes one? Of any kind? Same for Land Rover? Are they going to have to recall Cotty's? Oh dear! Hmmm. Next thing you'll be tryingto tell me is that there's no MG anymore! Soighhh. Good thing I've got several books describing (and picturing) those good ol' days, or all my memories would be gone! keith
FIRST PENTAX 645 DIGITAL TO BE UNVEILED AT TOKYO TRADE SHOW
http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=6458800 GOLDEN, CO (March 15, 2005)PENTAX Imaging Company has announced that PENTAX Corporation will unveil the first PENTAX 645 Digital medium-format camera at the Photo Imaging Expo (PIE) from March 1720, 2005 in Tokyo. This latest PENTAX digital advancement will be showcased under glass at PIE 2005. The PENTAX 645 Digital camera will offer professional quality digital image reproduction. The camera will also feature: A reliable PENTAX 645 AF mount Compatibility with existing smc PENTAX 645 interchangeable lenses A Kodak developed extra-large CCD image sensor with 18.6 total megapixels.* *Design, specifications and product name are subject to change without notice. Official launch date and pricing to be announced. In addition to a legendary array of film and digital SLR camera products, PENTAX boasts a proud heritage of delivering professional quality photographic equipment. PENTAX introduced the world's first multi-mode medium-format film camera in 1984the PENTAX 645. In 1997, the manufacturer unveiled the PENTAX 645N, which was the world's first medium-format camera with a high-precision autofocus system at that time. The PENTAX 645 Digital medium-format camera will offer a new digital dimension for medium-format photographers.
SIXTH PENTAX DIGITAL DA-SERIES LENS ANNOUNCED
http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=6458799 GOLDEN, CO (March 15, 2005)...PENTAX Imaging Company has announced yet another compact, lightweight, interchangeable zoom lens for exclusive use with PENTAX digital SLR cameras including the *ist D and the *ist DS digital SLRs. The smc PENTAX-DA 12mm-24mm F4 ED AL [IF] is the sixth DA-series lens offered by the photo manufacturer. The PENTAX-DA 12mm-24mm F4 ED AL [IF] will feature: 2X zoom coverage in the ultra-wide angle range with an angle of view from 99 degrees to 61 degrees (equivalent in focal length from 18.5mm to 37mm in the 35mm format) when mounted on the PENTAX *ist D or *ist DS digital SLR camera body 13-element/11-group optical construction incorporating ED (Extra-low Dispersion) and aspherical optical elements The compact dimensions (diameter x length) of 3.3½ x 3.4½ (83.5mm x 87.5mm) With Extra-low Dispersion (ED) glass lens element and two aspherical lens elements, the lens offers more true-to-life image reproduction. The image circle in DA-series lenses is designed to perfectly match the 23.5mm x 15.7mm size of the CCD used in PENTAX digital SLRs to optimize camera performance. The new design also contributes to a drastic reduction in size, weight and production cost, compared to 35mm-format counterparts with similar specifications.
RE: FIRST PENTAX 645 DIGITAL TO BE UNVEILED AT TOKYO TRADE SHOW
Duh - sorry, bit late here... Been too busy with work for the list lately! -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2005 15:48 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: FIRST PENTAX 645 DIGITAL TO BE UNVEILED AT TOKYO TRADE SHOW http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=6458800 GOLDEN, CO (March 15, 2005)PENTAX Imaging Company has announced that PENTAX Corporation will unveil the first PENTAX 645 Digital medium-format camera at the Photo Imaging Expo (PIE) from March 1720, 2005 in Tokyo. This latest PENTAX digital advancement will be showcased under glass at PIE 2005. The PENTAX 645 Digital camera will offer professional quality digital image reproduction. The camera will also feature: A reliable PENTAX 645 AF mount Compatibility with existing smc PENTAX 645 interchangeable lenses A Kodak developed extra-large CCD image sensor with 18.6 total megapixels.* *Design, specifications and product name are subject to change without notice. Official launch date and pricing to be announced. In addition to a legendary array of film and digital SLR camera products, PENTAX boasts a proud heritage of delivering professional quality photographic equipment. PENTAX introduced the world's first multi-mode medium-format film camera in 1984the PENTAX 645. In 1997, the manufacturer unveiled the PENTAX 645N, which was the world's first medium-format camera with a high-precision autofocus system at that time. The PENTAX 645 Digital medium-format camera will offer a new digital dimension for medium-format photographers.
RE: Pentax News
Awww - I thought you would just see it as a challenge Cotty!?! Surely you could fab a device to wit for the mirror to retract, then slide the lens back into the body, then trip the shutter, then extraxt the lens from the body for the mirror return? Not sure how you would work out the focus of the damn thing though... Rob -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The only way would be to mount the 35mm lens *inside* the 645 lens throat, so that the distance from the back of the K mount lens to the 645D's sensor was 45.46mm - but sadly wew then have the problem of the 645D's mirror hitting the whole kit and caboodle.
RE: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem...
To find the IP address you should just be able to right click on the computer icon next to the time and select properties. The support tab there should show you the IP address. You can also select properties, select the TCPIP and click the properties button/ Failing that - go into control panel, network and internet connections, network connections then right click on the appropriate connection (you may well only have one) and select properties. Also worth looking at in control panel are the firewall settings (Under security center in control panel) - you could just try turning it off if it is on. Firewall is relatively new in XP so unless you stay up to date you may not have it. If you recently updated it probably got installed and may well be blocking internet connection sharing. Beyond that, internet connection sharing in XP home is a nightmare - you just have to keep plugging away until it decides it will work for you (or not!). You would be far better served by getting a router and letting each PC connect direct to the internet. You can now get some very good all in one wireless router modems which include built in firewalls and a wireless access point (make your laptop truly mobile!). Rob -Original Message- From: Tan and Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 February 2005 22:08 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem... Hi Alan and John! Thanks so much for your responses - I should probably clarify a couple of things. My PC is connected to the internet via cable (broadband). I use my PC predominantly, which is how I send and receive emails. My lappy is my second 'puter and it connects to the internet THROUGH my network and PC's internet connection. The reason for this is that Steve will sit and work on the lappy whilst I am working on the PC. When I initially set up the network, I experienced the same problem and a friend of mine told me to manually enter the IP addresses, and which numbers to use. However, I can't remember just where it is that I go to enter the IP addresses, and I can't remember them anyways! I did ping them using the command prompt and there is no response from either, which is strange as I AM able to access files/folders. Sorry, I am very confusing aren't I?!?! hehe. Tanya Mayer Photography Brisbane, Qld, Australia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549 Mobile +61 0437831247 -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2005 7:35 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem... --- Tan and Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running Win XP on both systems. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! You may try InternetOptions/Connection/Setup in IE6 to setup the internet connection again. = Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
RE: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem...
To find the IP address you should just be able to right click on the computer icon next to the time and select properties. The support tab there should show you the IP address. You can also select properties, select the TCPIP and click the properties button/ Failing that - go into control panel, network and internet connections, network connections then right click on the appropriate connection (you may well only have one) and select properties. Also worth looking at in control panel are the firewall settings (Under security center in control panel) - you could just try turning it off if it is on. Firewall is relatively new in XP so unless you stay up to date you may not have it. If you recently updated it probably got installed and may well be blocking internet connection sharing. Beyond that, internet connection sharing in XP home is a nightmare - you just have to keep plugging away until it decides it will work for you (or not!). You would be far better served by getting a router and letting each PC connect direct to the internet. You can now get some very good all in one wireless router modems which include built in firewalls and a wireless access point (make your laptop truly mobile!). Rob -Original Message- From: Tan and Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 February 2005 22:08 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem... Hi Alan and John! Thanks so much for your responses - I should probably clarify a couple of things. My PC is connected to the internet via cable (broadband). I use my PC predominantly, which is how I send and receive emails. My lappy is my second 'puter and it connects to the internet THROUGH my network and PC's internet connection. The reason for this is that Steve will sit and work on the lappy whilst I am working on the PC. When I initially set up the network, I experienced the same problem and a friend of mine told me to manually enter the IP addresses, and which numbers to use. However, I can't remember just where it is that I go to enter the IP addresses, and I can't remember them anyways! I did ping them using the command prompt and there is no response from either, which is strange as I AM able to access files/folders. Sorry, I am very confusing aren't I?!?! hehe. Tanya Mayer Photography Brisbane, Qld, Australia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549 Mobile +61 0437831247 -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2005 7:35 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem... --- Tan and Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running Win XP on both systems. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! You may try InternetOptions/Connection/Setup in IE6 to setup the internet connection again. = Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
RE: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem...
I think that is quite possible - on the basis that SP2 introduced the windows firewall amongst other things. Rolling back seems a little severe though... The point is that regardless of the cause of the problem, a router is much more efficient and reliable than a PC sharing the internet connection anyway - not to mention simpler to set up. Machines could then work independantly and the 'connected' machine doesn't have to spend resource serving up stuff to the remote. -Original Message- From: Ryan Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February 2005 16:29 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem... Noone agrees with me it's probably an XP SP2 problem? I've got a dollar on the problem going away if she does a rollback. Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: Larry Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:56 PM Subject: Re: OT - Computer nerds unite! I have a networking problem... Sounds like you're using the PC as a bridge connection for the laptop to get out to the internet. A better arrangement would be to use a router between the cable modem and the computers. Each computer would hook directly to the router and would be able to access the internet without depending upon having the other computer turned on. A 4-port router is pretty cheap - about 40USD - and comes with a setup CD that pretty easily configures the computers on the network. Linksys and Belkin are two popular routers here in the states for home networking equipment. Adding a router has the additional benefit of built-in firewall called Network Address Translation (NAT). The outside world only sees the IP address of the router and not the IP addresses of the computers on your network. Paul I know that this does not address your immediate problems but I agree with Paul about adding a router to your network. I think that it would actually simplify things for you and be more robust and secure. I currently have a network at home with a Linksys Router (BEFSX41) and 16 port switch (EZXS16W) supporting 6 PCs a couple of network attached hard drives, two printers, scanners, etc. all accessing the internet via a cable modem. The setup and maintenance of the network is relatively easy. The router is a DHCP server which means that it assigns the IP addresses to each of the PCs and administers the network. There is very little for you the user to do after it is setup. Adding a PC is not much more than attaching to an open port on the network. Just a suggestion and maybe an inappropriate one at this time but worth considering after you sort the current problem out. Larry
New Pentax 55-200?
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_2553.html Not seen this mentioned, but havent been able to read all the mails here... Sounds interesting though: SMC Pentax DA 50-200mm lens introduction : Pentax Corporation is pleased to announce the exhibition of the following reference product at PMA 2005, the largest photo merchandise trade show in the U.S.A., to be held from February 20 to 23 in Orlando, Florida. The new Pentax product is an interchangeable telephoto zoom lens for exclusive use with Pentax digital SLR cameras. At this moment the (tentative) of the lens is smc Pentax DA 50mm-200mm F4-5.6 ED. Major features of the smc Pentax DA 50-200mm lens: compact, lightweight zoom lens, designed for exclusive use with Pentax KAF-mount digital SLR cameras, four-times zoom coverage in the telephoto range.
RE: New Pentax 55-200?
Sorry - have been deleting hundreds of unread posts lately as not enough time for cyber-skiving at work at the moment! -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 February 2005 16:31 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: New Pentax 55-200? Rob Brigham wrote on 15.02.05 17:24: http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_2553.html Not seen this mentioned, but havent been able to read all the mails here... It was mentioned on PDML with DA 50-200 f4-5.6 subject :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
MEGA Photography TV Night tomorrow (UK only)
Apologies if that has been mentioned already - cannot keep up with the list at the moment! UKTV History channel Saturday 5th February 19:00 to 00:00 Decisive Moments: the Photographs That Made History Pictures! Pictures! Pictures! Series focusing on the celebrated images captured in the 20th century. In this programme, photography from the 1920s and 30s, including Tony Berardi's moving photograph from 1929's St Valentine's Day Massacre and the crash of the Hindenberg in 1937. The Persuaders Series focusing on the celebrated images captured in the 20th century. In this programme, an exploration of the propaganda wars of the 1930s and the part the camera played in these, as well as a look at the photography of Dorothea Lange in Depression America. Are You Crazy? Series focusing on the celebrated images captured in the 20th century. In this edition, the role of the camera during the Second World War. Featuring Joe Rosenthal's controversial `Raising of the Stars and Stripes on Iwo Jima'. Some Intimacy Series focusing on the celebrated images captured in the 20th century. In this edition, the golden age of celebrity photography, in which photographers such as Yousuf Karsh, Dennis Stock and Sam Shaw reveal how they secured the cooperation of subjects including James Dean, Marilyn Monroe and Winston Churchill. And paparazzo Ron Galella explains how things are different now. Only in the Light of Day Series focusing on celebrated images captured in the 20th century. In this programme, images from the 1960s, when photographers not only recorded history but also helped to change it. Featuring the student protests at Kent State University and American marines under fire in Vietnam.
RE: PENTAX PHOTO Browser + Laboratory update
Does anyone have an emailable/downloadable copy of the original software anywhere easy? I do have mine but I will have to wade through piles of junk in the loft to find it - I didn't install it when I replaced my PC because it was so poor compared to Photoshop CS, but I want to have a look at the new one. I don't know why they don't just put proper installs in the web - its not like anyone in their right mind would steal the software if they didn't have a Pentax digicam is it? Much appreciated if anyone can help... Rob -Original Message- From: David Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 February 2005 06:40 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PENTAX PHOTO Browser + Laboratory update Hi Gang, Just to let you know, Pentax has come good and added an update so that *ist D users can use the new versions (2.1) of PENTAX PHOTO Browser and PENTAX PHOTO Laboratory. I think that *ist DS users (with version 2.0) should update too. Here is the link (down the bottom): http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/download_digital.html Haven't looked at the Lab yet, but have used the browser briefly and it feels pretty good (faster?). Seems more professional anyway. Now we only have to wait for the *ist D firmware version 2.0 (-: Cheers, David -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 1/02/2005
RE: *istD EOL...
I have always found Pentax AF much more reliable than my cy manual focusing. Started with the MZ-30, then the MZ-S was a definite step up. *itdD AF seems to be have trouble locking more often than the MZ-S but will sometimes focus in lower light than the MZ-S would. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2005 15:23 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: *istD EOL... Quoting Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alan wrote: There never was much wrong with Pentax AF anyway. (I'm not quite sure whose comment that was) I never found anything wrong with Pentax AF on the much-maligned PZ-1 and I thought the ZX-5n wasn't too bad either, though not good in really low light. However, it seems to me that autofocus on the *ist D is worse than either of those. I use manual focus most of the time with the *ist D because I've lost a lot of shots while the camera hunted, and lost some more that turned out, upon inspection, to be out of focus. And as I've said before, the autoexposure with the *ist D doesn't work as well as ANY other Pentax camera with AE that I've used: that would be two ME Supers, P30t, Super Program, Program Plus, LX, PZ-1, ZX-5n, WR-90 and Optio 550. That said, I am learning to get better exposures out of the *istD, and as someone else has said, its viewfinder works fine for manual focus. ERNR
Not Pentax but Photo Related: Photos show US presidents at play
An exhibition of rarely seen photos of US presidents has opened in Washington, revealing unguarded moments from their spells at the peak of power. The National Archives says it has uncovered photographs that capture not just the events of public life, but also the human qualities of our leaders. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4078529.stm
RE: Home Computer Prediction From 1954
Isn't that the latest Apple Mac? runs hides... -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2004 16:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home Computer Prediction From 1954 This may produce a few grins: http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/54-computer.jpg Shel
RE: Photo.net Changes the Rules and a Question
I think Photosig is pretty good. -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 November 2004 15:10 To: PDML Subject: Photo.net Changes the Rules and a Question Again, Photo.net pisses me off. Under the old rules, a non-member (in other words, someone who doesn't want to pay an annual fee, like me), one could post up to 99 photos in their gallery. If one went over that amount, the post would still go through, but any of your photos could be arbitrarily deleted without notice, to get your number down to 99. Fair enough. Yesterday, when I posted my most recent PAW (which only Cotty liked g), a big red notice is on my screen that I'm over my limit of ~47~ photos. Huh? Well, it seems that guests (which is what they now call me, since I won't pay) now have a limit of 5 photos, plus extras. The number of extras one is allowed is determined by some arcane and undisclosed formula that has to do with how many viewings one's photos have had, along with how many photos one has posted. The number of extras can fluctuate without notice. Okay, I know, I know, I'm a cheapskate looking for freebies, and I have no right to complain, right? Wrong! Seems to me that changing the rules mid-stream, without notice, is entirely unfair. At least they could have a Sunset or Grandfather Clause (or whatever they call them) wherein the new rules only apply to new members (sorry, guests), and anyone who's been around for a while still has the same old guidelines applied to them. So, again, I'm looking for a new place to put photos. My searches in the past didn't prove fruitful, because anyone who wanted to view at those places had to sign in (don't like that). I see Boris is using Web Aperture, but folks don't like the resized window. Who's Amita with? Mug-something-or-other? Anyone have any thoughts on that place? Is it free? I really don't want to have to pay for this - having to put up with ads, and having my name and info go into a databank to be used for who knows what is about all I'm the payment I'm willing to make. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: OT - Paparazzi doc on TV in UK
Br - you beat me to it! Add BBC4 to the list tonight too though - if you haven't seen it before: Frank Hurley: The Man who Made History (BBC4 Monday, 15.11.2004 21:30-22:30) A look at the life and work of photographer Frank Hurley, who captured some of the earliest images of the world's most remote places. The cinematographer on Ernest Shackleton's doomed Endurance expedition to the Antarctic, Hurley also photographed both World Wars and explored New Guinea. But today's experts believe some of his pictures to be elaborate fakes. Was he a giant of photography or just a conjurer with a camera? -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 November 2004 18:04 To: pentax list Subject: OT - Paparazzi doc on TV in UK Tonight (Monday) on BBC 3 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/tv/paparazzi.shtml Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Over to the Dark side.. ist D vs 20D brief comparison
Read this: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/read_opinion_text.asp?prodkey=canon_eos2 0dopinion=23637 Har!
RE: Bespoke (was RE: Over to the Dark side.. ist D vs 20D brief comparison)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=bespoke was what my usual online dictionary said (made-to-order, tailored, tailor-made). Seems to derive from 'as discussed' ie (be)(spoke). -Original Message- From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 November 2004 00:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Bespoke (was RE: Over to the Dark side.. ist D vs 20D brief comparison) On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:08:52 -, Rob Brigham wrote: [...] felt like it was bespoke built for me [...] Ok, this is probably one of those American English versus H.M. English things. I've seen the term bespoke used in this way before, usually in reference to clothes. It has always sounded like it means something along the lines of custom tailored. But I've never found an (American English, I guess) dictionary that gave a definition that sounded like custom tailored. So, _is_ that what it means? TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
RE: Bespoke (was RE: Over to the Dark side.. ist D vs 20D brief comparison)
Don't know why this didn't get to the list earlier - so will post again. Sorry if it ends up on there twice! http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=bespoke was what my usual online dictionary said (made-to-order, tailored, tailor-made). Seems to derive from 'as discussed' ie (be)(spoke). -Original Message- From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 November 2004 00:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Bespoke (was RE: Over to the Dark side.. ist D vs 20D brief comparison) On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:08:52 -, Rob Brigham wrote: [...] felt like it was bespoke built for me [...] Ok, this is probably one of those American English versus H.M. English things. I've seen the term bespoke used in this way before, usually in reference to clothes. It has always sounded like it means something along the lines of custom tailored. But I've never found an (American English, I guess) dictionary that gave a definition that sounded like custom tailored. So, _is_ that what it means? TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Heads up - new photog series on ITV(Meridian) starts tonight in the UK
The Frame Arts documentary series. Kos Evans has an international reputation as a photographer in the glamorous world of yacht and powerboat racing. The programme follows her from her southern base to the Mediterranean in search of the perfect picture The Frame - Music And Arts Friday, 12.11.2004 Start Time: 23.30 End Time: 00.00 Duration in Mins: 30
RE: Over to the Dark side.. ist D vs 20D brief comparison
The size is fine for me, but the shape of the grip is less than ideal. I REALLY miss the MZ-S as it felt like it was bespoke built for me and could easily have been an extension of my arm! There is not another camera on the planet which grips as nicely as the MZ-S... I have the grip but never use it as I cant get happy with it at that size, and don't really mind holding it vertically without the grip. Plus it wouldn't go in my camera bag with the grip attached and I cant be ar**d to keep taking it off putting it on. -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2004 15:45 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Over to the Dark side.. ist D vs 20D brief comparison On 11/11/04, Ryan Lee, discombobulated, unleashed: I completely agree with you about feels and looks; the ist D is a gorgeous little thing, and it's not too shabby specwise either. However, I'm not deeply invested in Pentax glass, and my love affair is more with the mz5n or the mz3 bodies (samples of wonderfully thoughtful design). I'll be hanging on to that forever, but having played around with the 20D, I can't say the same- it almost feels like it's anticipating to be replaced already! Let me guess, you're going to put tape over the word 'Canon', right? I think the *ist D is a beautiful and well-crafted piece of kit. But am I the only one on the planet who doesn't like it's small size? I love the weight and size of bigger bodies. (cue WW) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?
Not on my BBC2 - my guides say keep the aspidistra flying at 23:20. Missed it last night (knew it was on at 9:00, but watching some other c**p), so cheers for the Heads up for tonight and Saturday night tho... -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 November 2004 19:15 To: pentax list Subject: Re: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67? On 8/11/04, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: Former supermodel Helena Chistensen turns into photographer in this documentary airing tonight on BBC3 tonight (Monday) at 9pm. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/tv/behind_the_lens.shtml That a Pentax 67 she's wielding in the top pic? Also on Weds evening on BBC 2 for those on terrestrial... Helena Christensen: Behind The Lens Mon 8 Nov at 21:00 on BBC Three Tue 9 Nov at 01:30 on BBC Three Wed 10 Nov at 00:45 on BBC Three Wed 10 Nov at 23:20 on BBC Two Sun 14 Nov at 02:55 on BBC Three Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?
Yeah - I had seen her on interviews talking about her photogtaphy before and wasn't too bothered about it. Still worth a watch in recognition of Pentax loyalty if nothing else... -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2004 11:00 To: pentax list Subject: Re: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67? On 9/11/04, Rob Brigham, discombobulated, unleashed: Not on my BBC2 - my guides say keep the aspidistra flying at 23:20. Odd, the Radio Times says the same thing (aspidistra). Missed it last night (knew it was on at 9:00, but watching some other c**p), so cheers for the Heads up for tonight and Saturday night tho... To be honest I thought the doc was crap. It was shot in a bitty handheld style that makes me feel ill. The woman herself I found to be shallow and aimless. He photography was okay if you like the style but IMO it was an hour too long ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67?
The worst offender is a program called 'its nice to be xxx...' which the missus sometimes tries to watch where they look at the lifestyles of Rich Famous. All zooms and pans and flicking all over the place. Cookery programs often do the same now, although never as bad as this program... -Original Message- From: Steve Jolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 November 2004 16:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UK - Photog Doc tonight - P67? Cotty wrote: To be honest I thought the doc was crap. It was shot in a bitty handheld style that makes me feel ill. The woman herself I found to be shallow and aimless. He photography was okay if you like the style but IMO it was an hour too long ;-) I hope I'm not the only one to get incredibly annoyed by producers skimping on the cost of steadicam operators and rigs (or maybe just tripods) and then marketing their programmes as edgy... S
RE: Color Print Film Question
I always found Reala needed to be exposed at ISO 80 (but developed as normal to add punch and contrast). I think it would work well for you Shel, but the Kodak films have a warmer pallette which might suit a dull day better. -Original Message- From: Mat Maessen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 November 2004 17:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Color Print Film Question Something with a bit more contrast, like say Royal Supra 200, or just straight Gold 200 might work better. Reala always seemed a bit flat to me, though I've never tried the Kodak VC films on cloudy days (they do very well on sunny days for me). -Mat On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 09:06:35 -0800, Tim Sherburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kodak Portra 160VC might also do the trick. On 11/8/04 9:03, Steve Jolly wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: What would be a good choice of color print film for a heavily overcast day. Slower speed films preferred. I was thinking of Reala as it seems punchy enuf to overcame the greyness of the day. Agfa Ultra 100? The question mark is 'cos although I exposed a roll last weekend, I haven't had time to develop it yet. It seems pretty much designed for the job though. S
RE: Small-sensor DSLR probably not a stop-gap
In fact you will still be able to use it with a full frame Pentax - just that the edges of the frame will be black. Maybe this will bring in a new era during which format decisions will go beyond square or rectangular but also be circular as APS lenses get used more and more on full frame bodies! -Original Message- From: Sam Jost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I bought one DA lens, the DA-14 - there is no real choice there and I won't really need it on a full frame pentax. Sam
RE: Bye...
Me too. -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2004 17:13 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Bye... On 29/10/04, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: It's those silent people that should speak up more often. Their views are important and valuable contributions, even if they're expressed only as a short me too or I agree note. I agree. D'OH! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: OT: Typical Canon shooter....
Yeah, they were actually ordered to remove the donkey from the pits as it 'lowered the tone', but as Ford had already announced their decision the crew gave them the two fingers! -Original Message- From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 October 2004 15:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Typical Canon shooter Mat Maessen wrote on 10/14/2004, 10:14 AM: The whole site is friggin hilarious!! http://www.donkeydoesf1.co.uk/China%20Race%20Day/Dsc03496.jpg Apparently the Jaguar F1 mechanics are a bit pissed off with Ford for pulling out of F1 One of my favs: http://www.donkeydoesf1.co.uk/China%20Race%20Day/eIMG1772.JPG -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BBC Photographer of the year
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/3732862.stm Some nice blurry shots for Frank! I find it amazing when I keep looking at these different competitions on the beeb that our month PUG has far better shots to my mind, every month...
RE: Have you backuped your pics ?
Articles here that includes a few comments here from Andrew Wyllie (NEC) who are backing the HD-DVD format (as opposed to BluRay) with Toshiba: http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/New...?RelatedID=5794 http://pcworld.co.nz/news.nsf/0/00B6ADAE5467DBC5CC256ECF00761FA3?OpenDoc ument http://www.eetimes.com/article/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=26100874sub_ taxonomyID=2251 The article is interesting but he is wrong on a few things he mentions: - BluRay disks can now exist without a caddy due to a protective coating much as DVD-RAMs - Both Sony and Panasonic have developed blue/red combo lasers for DVD, CD and BR reading To be fair though there is just as much false info out about HD-DVD - those who say 15GB (single layer) and 30GB (dual layer) is not enough for long HD movies simply underestimate the compression WMV and MPEG4 can bring to such content. Longhorn will support HD-DVD: http://www.cdr-info.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=9845 It will be interesting to see how the HD-DVD versus BluRay 'war' turns out. IMHO we are unlikely to see an early mass adoption of blue laser products because there is no pressing need for people to upgrade - a 4.7GB DVDR provides sufficient storage for most, an 8.5GB dual layer DVDR even more so. Thus both formats are likely to survive initially - and perhaps this is a bad thing? Unlike for recordable DVD, the Hollywood studios will have an impact as they will start releasing high definition content on either HD-DVD or BR-ROM. So early adopters are in the position where they could, potentially, buy a failed product. In short a true return to the days of Betamax versus VHS - only worse as it is worldwide failure the new format is looking at. Physically BluRay has greater capacity (25GB or 50GB as opposed to HD-DVDs 15GB/30GB). However HD-DVD is potentially going to be more durable and (possibly) cheaper. Again it is too early to comment with any accuracy though. So that puts current support for HD-DVD as Toshiba, NEC, Sanyo and Microsoft. BluRay is supported by JVC, Hitachi, Panasonic, Philips, Pioneer, Samsung and Sony among others. I do find it interesting that the HD-DVD camp are playing the 'compatibility card' - much like the DVD Alliance did until all the independent tests started to show that DVD+RW/+R actually faired somewhat worse than DVD-RW/-R in that department. Certainly both BluRay and HD-DVD machines are going to be backwards compatible with DVDs. Bigger still in the pipeline though: http://www.dvd-recordable.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=arti clesid=1415mode=threadorder=0thold=0 -Original Message- From: Graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 October 2004 14:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Have you backuped your pics ? No need to rush. I decided against a two layer DVD just last month because I could not find anyone selling the special disks for it. In fact locally they just started selling 8x DVD+R's about 3 weeks ago. Most all of these will read older disks anyway. OTOH if you had invested in a DVD-RAM you probly made a mistake. -- Caveman wrote: Yes ? Good. Then prepare to produce yet another pile of disks: http://asia.cnet.com/news/personaltech/0,39037091,39197221,00.htm -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
RE: Sigma AF 1.4X worth considering?
There were several versions (at least 2 anyway) - the EX ones are pretty good, but before that less so. You need to check that the rear element of your lens will not crash into the front element of the convertor as it stands proud of the housing. Sigma have a compatibility table on their website for their own lenses. -Original Message- From: Andre Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2004 16:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sigma AF 1.4X worth considering? Good optics? Is it also compatible with MF lenses? Andre
RE: Sharpest Color Film
Depend on how you define sharpness I guess. I found Reala to be more detailed and have more exposure lattitude than Superia which I don't like also due to its colour palette. Other films by default could possibly be more contrasty than Reala though so could 'appear' sharper. Rating Reala at ISO 80 rather than its suggested 100 (and developing as normal) also increases saturation contrast and makes it the best neg film ever in my opinion. -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2004 15:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sharpest Color Film Need a quick answer if you can. Which have you found to be the sharper, more detailed color film: Fuji Reala or Fuji Superior? Have you found any that's sharper? I have a roll of Royal Gold 25 that's a bit out of date that John Francis gave me a couple of years ago. I'm not too concerned with color fidelity in this project, but want the best detail and resolving power I can find with the film that's now in my freezer. Will this out of date film have suffered an loss of resolving power or sharpness over time? Shel
RE: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
The price of the 300D has already been tubling in the UK for a few months now. The 10D seems to be getting close to freefall now too... It is hard to see how Pentax could possibly undercut their competition as things stand, which is why I am glad they seem to have taken a fresher approach by pushing the small light thing and possibly appealing to a new group of buyers. Now we know why they don't bother with a ZLR like the other makes - they don't need one, the istDs does the job and more! -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My point is that with a little bit more thought and it would have appealed to a far wider potential market. However it's appeal is yet to be tested, like the *ist D it's still not a Canon or a Nikon. My guess is that the price of the 300D will tumble as soon as the *ist Ds hits the market. Good luck to Pentax, they are late to market again. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/ ~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: What, no *ist-Ds messages?
You can buy it without any rebate for this price in the UK now! http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=777_4_409_40901 Or body only for £539. 10D is £799 from the same place (body only). This includes shipping and VAT. -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 September 2004 16:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What, no *ist-Ds messages? On 14 Sep 2004 at 15:53, Rob Brigham wrote: The price of the 300D has already been tubling in the UK for a few months now. The 10D seems to be getting close to freefall now too... There is an AUD200 cash back on the 300Ds at the moment, I've got a flyer in front of me quoting AUD1790 for the 300D + 18-55 which would make it about GBP621 with the cash back. I have one next to me at the moment and I must say that even given its bulbous body and crappy plastic feel all of the buttons work as expected unlike my supposedly superior *ist D. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/ ~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: What was the name of that raw converter again - 7-something ?
Can only think of these: Pentax Photolab Photoshop CS C1 (LE or Pro) Dcraw GraphicConverter (5.2.2) BreezeBrowser vuescan Genzo -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 September 2004 16:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What was the name of that raw converter again - 7-something ? Does aanyone remember?? Thanks Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
RE: RAW vs. JPG and CF size
My favourite answer - yes AND no... It does always record jpegs at the same time, but they are embedded in the .PEF file rather than separate files. Someone on here wrote an extraction utility I think for this kind of purpose - cant rememer you would need to search the archives unless he owns up! -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 September 2004 17:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RAW vs. JPG and CF size Can the istd record both a raw and a jpeg file simultaneously so one can have a smaller sized proof to examine, or perhaps for some QD work, while still having the RAW file available for later processing? Shel From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] After having shot the last few jobs in RAW, I can come up with another reason or two. 1) latitude is greater than with jpg. More ability to deal with possible blowouts and more ability to deal with shadows. 2) white balancing after the fact while looking at the whole sequence or shoot is easier and more consistent. I shot my first 10,000 frames in jpg and I can say that now I am a convert to RAW. Just more after the fact control. Not unlike a BW photographer wishing to develop his/her own film and possibly doing their own printing.
RE: Come to papa........
Didn't you seel one of these a while back? Have you come out of the deal quids in, or do you wish now that you had kept your original? Anything to keep posting in the PUG eh? -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 September 2004 22:51 To: pentax list Subject: Come to papa Can't keep a good lens down. Unfortunately I couldn't be with the auction at close to snipe, so paid the price. It's no bargain but I'm really happy. It's the best lens on the planet. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=707item=3837464104rd=1 Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
RE: CR-V3 rechageables
I keep Some (non rechargeable) Lithium Aas as my backup rather than CR-V3s because they can also be a backup for my flash other equipment, and were really pretty cheap. I do have some CR-V3s which came with the camera but see no point buying any more when I can get lithium AAs. As for rechargeable CR-V3s the same applies - why use soemthing that isnt versatile enough to swap between equipment. One of the big advantages of the *ist D was the use of a common battery type which could be swapped shared with other gear. Having to buy two chargers for the two CR-V3s that the ist requires made it a paing in the ass too - either that or keep swapping batteries out one by one to charge a set. Rechargeable CR-V3s are also very expensive unless they have come down in price. Buy a Uniross Globetrotter charger which you can use most anywhere and you really have no need for LiOn. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 September 2004 00:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CR-V3 rechageables the four brands i saw used three different incompatible charging systems. i am sticking with high capacity NiMH batteries for now with a pair of fresh CR-V3 primary cells as backup. Herb... - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 3:31 PM Subject: CR-V3 rechageables Anyone tried to use CR-V3 rechargeables (1100mAh) in the *ist D? Are they recommendable to use?
RE: Nimh batteries
Also Ansmann Energy 8 (or 16) - very very good, but they aint cheap! Most of the uniross range seems to be switched over to individual cell chargers now too. Actually most if not all manufacturers are switching to individual cell monitoring these days, although they may not have a light on each cell for your info. The key is whether you have to insert batteries in multiples of two as in the old days or any number you like in any combination of capacities. The uniross Globe Trotter and Panasonic BQ-395 both have individual cell charging, but just a single indicator for when the batch is complete. The Annsman is huge, but allows C D cells too, and is great for refreshing old or poor batteries which might have a memory effect - unbelievably fast too! The globe trotter is unbelievably small and goes everywhere with me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 September 2004 22:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nimh batteries Herb Chong wrote: i also strongly recommend a charger that monitors each cell as it charges. it will have one status LED for each cell. you'll get more useful capacity and longer useful life this way. rg replied: Who makes chargers like these? Maha, model C-401FS: http://www.mahaenergy.com/store/item.asp? idproduct=178 I have one and I love it. Get your free email account at mail2go.com today! Click here http://www.mail2go.com to open your account.
RE: my ist D AF problem
Would be well worth testing on a film body too. It might just be the AF system in the *istD which is often said to have such focussing innacuracies with fast lenses (like the FA 50 1.4 for example). There might be nothing wrong with the lens either... -Original Message- From: Ryan Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2004 13:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: my ist D AF problem lol! I forgot I had a spare ist D lying around the house. I just did a quick test, and it appears that I don't have to send my ist D back (damn! Because the ist D is still under warranty while the lens isn't..). Anyway, I've noticed that at 2.8, autofocusing on text doesn't emphasise the edges. I assume the temporary workaround would be shooting at 5.6 and smaller, but then that's just hiding the wrong focus in the extra DOF. Anybody know how much sending in a Sigma lens for a CLA costs (assuming it's for an adjustment of the AF, if that's possible, what ranges am I looking at)? Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: RE: my ist D AF problem Just use the same lenses to test another *istD in the shop and see. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Upon taking a bunch of rather soft shots, I've just been testing my ist D's AF. It seems that with the Sigma EX 28-70 2.8 (which I've not had any AF problems with my 5n), even though the camera says something is focus (using single point/ spot AF), the camera consistently misses the focus (tested on text). Manual focusing yields the usual sharp focus I'm used to getting. Batteries are full, btw. Does this mean I should return the body for a new one, something is wrong with my lens (I don't think this is the case..), or something else? Please advise. Thanks, Ryan _ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft(r) SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994; DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN(r) Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
RE: my ist D AF problem
The problems relate to focussing on distant objects and shooting wide open - this is not something which is called for, so normally goes unnoticed until or unless tested specifically. Compare with manual focus on a distant object and you will probably find that the AF has focussed in front of the object. Well documented on dpreview and I think pretty much everyone found to their surprise that it was evident, but the conclusion was that under normal shooting conditions it is not that significant. -Original Message- From: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2004 13:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: my ist D AF problem This one time, at band camp, Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be well worth testing on a film body too. It might just be the AF system in the *istD which is often said to have such focussing innacuracies with fast lenses (like the FA 50 1.4 for example). There might be nothing wrong with the lens either... I use a FA 50 1.4 with the *istD and have had no problems Kind regards Kevin - __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
RE: Pentax Imaging
This is not at all what I have heard many times in the past. Not saying who is right or wrong but I have often been told that Pentax USA was independent which was why they do not supply international warraties wherease everywhere(?) else does. Not sure why else they would do that. Now that it has been disputed would be nice if someone could dig out the definitive answer with proof? -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 August 2004 02:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Imaging Pentax USA belongs to Pentax Japan Lock Stock and Barrel. That's the way it's been since Honeywell lost the distributorship in the 70's. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: Pentax Imaging True, but this seem to be a problem in the US and Australia and nowhere(?) else. In this part of the world theres no problem with distribution or getting stuff provided it is still avaiable. The distribution channels seem excellent; my 600mm lens was delivered by overnight express mail from Pentax headquarters in Belgium directly to my door. Out of curiosity, Pål, do you know which of Pentax' distributors worldwide are owned by the mother corp, and which ones are private companies? I know of only the USA and Aussie ones that are private companies, and they both seem to generate a lot of complaints regarding distribution of goods. William Robb
RE: Prosumer vs. DSLR (was Re: two new digicams...)
Does the CRT display its data from the sensor, or does it read back what has been written to the tape/media? -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 August 2004 12:47 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Prosumer vs. DSLR (was Re: two new digicams...) On 17/8/04, fra, discombobulated, offered: BD Not that they couldn't be overcome, but I haven't heard great BD things even about the best of the EVF's. I agree. Have you ever tried one of the professional TV cameras? From what I have seen (they have BW EVF, which is inherently sharper than a colour one), they are nowhere near an optical finder yet. Cotty, is that true in the latest models as well? I do not keep up with the industry. AFAIK. The prosumer dv cams might have a flip out LCD but it's nowhere near as good as a small CRT. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
RE: PDML Mini-FAQ
And obviously on some Tuesdays! -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 August 2004 14:23 To: Pentax Discussion Malling List Subject: PDML Mini-FAQ A mini-FAQ for this list is available at: http://graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html This message will be posted every Sunday. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
