Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes. I nominate Tim. OK: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AogBdTEc87UVdGZqd2tGdjdiZDU5cDJ6cV9ZU2d5c2chl=en_USauthkey=CPSu6bAG Think I need an FA77... -T On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: Another vote here for the 50-135. No, I haven't measured, that wind blowing flapping your undies is my arms waving. Often perceived sharpness is a function of DoF. The 21mm Limited isn't all that sharp, but when you're taking pictures of mountains and skyscrapers and so on... Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes. -T On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: On 22 June 2011 16:25, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: I once cut my finger on an M50/1.7. There was a slight burr on the filter thread... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28 June 2011 16:38, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: Think I need an FA77... -T Sure so long as perceived sharpness is preferable to veiling flare in your list of lens essentials. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 6/28/2011 09:43, Rob Studdert wrote: On 28 June 2011 16:38, Tim Braytb...@textuality.com wrote: Think I need an FA77... -T Sure so long as perceived sharpness is preferable to veiling flare in your list of lens essentials. I beg to differ, Rob. My silver FA77 is as fine as any other SMC optic I have. Yet, if Tim needed a reason for yet another enablement, FA77 can easily come on top of his list... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11-06-28 2:38 AM, Tim Bray wrote: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com wrote: Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes. I nominate Tim. OK: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AogBdTEc87UVdGZqd2tGdjdiZDU5cDJ6cV9ZU2d5c2chl=en_USauthkey=CPSu6bAG Think I need an FA77... -T Thanks for the spreadsheet, Tim. I assume that the curious entry for a 5/1.4 is actually the DA* 55/1.4. I count 3 mentions for that one (Stan Halpin, William Robb and myself). I bet there'd be an enthusiastic specialized market for a 5mm 1.4. :) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Good job, Tim. I'm a little surprised by the absence of the DA70. Maybe no one has one? On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes. I nominate Tim. OK: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AogBdTEc87UVdGZqd2tGdjdiZDU5cDJ6cV9ZU2d5c2chl=en_USauthkey=CPSu6bAG Think I need an FA77... -T On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: Another vote here for the 50-135. No, I haven't measured, that wind blowing flapping your undies is my arms waving. Often perceived sharpness is a function of DoF. The 21mm Limited isn't all that sharp, but when you're taking pictures of mountains and skyscrapers and so on... Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes. -T On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: On 22 June 2011 16:25, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: I once cut my finger on an M50/1.7. There was a slight burr on the filter thread... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I once had an M28/3.5 that I could have used to shave my beard. Of my current stable, the M50/1.7 is probably sharper wide open than the FA50/1.4, but I don't much care for the flatness of the photos it produces. The FA50 is a much nicer lens to use and just as sharp as the 1.7 once it's stopped down a bit. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think my DFA 100 was my sharpest lens, /was/ because I had to sell it for lack of funds. The DFA 50 will have to go next. Those are/were the sharpest two in my stable. =( Ecke 2011/6/28 Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I once had an M28/3.5 that I could have used to shave my beard. Of my current stable, the M50/1.7 is probably sharper wide open than the FA50/1.4, but I don't much care for the flatness of the photos it produces. The FA50 is a much nicer lens to use and just as sharp as the 1.7 once it's stopped down a bit. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Tim Bray wrote: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes. I nominate Tim. OK: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AogBdTEc87UVdGZqd2tGdjdiZDU5cDJ6cV9ZU2d5c2chl=en_USauthkey=CPSu6bAG Awesome! thanks. Think I need an FA77... -T You only think you need an FA77 because you've never shot with one. Otherwise you'd know you need one. When you're in the Beigh Arya, let me know, we can get together and I'll let you play with mine for a bit. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't think I have made enough use of my K28 3.5. JCO swears by it. I need to just stick it on the K7 so I actually take it with me. On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I once had an M28/3.5 that I could have used to shave my beard. Of my current stable, the M50/1.7 is probably sharper wide open than the FA50/1.4, but I don't much care for the flatness of the photos it produces. The FA50 is a much nicer lens to use and just as sharp as the 1.7 once it's stopped down a bit. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Tim Bray wrote: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes. I nominate Tim. OK: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AogBdTEc87UVdGZqd2tGdjdiZDU5cDJ6cV9ZU2d5c2chl=en_USauthkey=CPSu6bAG Think I need an FA77... -T Late additions (my sharpest lenses): Pentax FA 77 Ltd Sigma 180mm f/3.5 macro -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes. I nominate Tim. On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: Another vote here for the 50-135. No, I haven't measured, that wind blowing flapping your undies is my arms waving. Often perceived sharpness is a function of DoF. The 21mm Limited isn't all that sharp, but when you're taking pictures of mountains and skyscrapers and so on... Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes. -T On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: On 22 June 2011 16:25, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: I once cut my finger on an M50/1.7. There was a slight burr on the filter thread... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 23/6/11, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: The A*85/1.4 is OK wide open as well. I think that's an understatement. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Another vote here for the 50-135. No, I haven't measured, that wind blowing flapping your undies is my arms waving. Often perceived sharpness is a function of DoF. The 21mm Limited isn't all that sharp, but when you're taking pictures of mountains and skyscrapers and so on... Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes. -T On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: On 22 June 2011 16:25, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: I once cut my finger on an M50/1.7. There was a slight burr on the filter thread... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 23/06/2011 8:44 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: I have the 55/1.4 and quite enjoy that lens. In the film era I had an FA*85/1.4, the 55 reminds me of that lens. And that lens was very very nice in many respects. I regret selling it but I needed to finance purchase of my 77mm which had equivalent quality, similar FOV, and much is smaller and easier to travel with. If I had to give up the 55mm or 77mm today, I would probably keep the 77, again primarily based on size. But the 55/`1.4 makes a great companion to the 21mm for walking a city like Venice or Rome in the evening . . . I can't compare the 55 to the FA-50; I never liked the look or feel of FA lenses and was able to pretty much skip over that generation of lenses, substituting either M or A lenses or FA* lenses. And then we got to the digital bodies and DA and DA* lenses and I've had even less reason to acquire any FA glass. I keep forgetting I have the 55/1.4. It's such a large thing that I tend to use anything but that lens. It's very sharp indeed, even wide open it's decent.. I've been enjoying the 43 quite a bit lately. I really like it, and at f/8 I don't think there is sharper. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 22 June 2011 16:25, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: I once cut my finger on an M50/1.7. There was a slight burr on the filter thread... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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smck 35 f3,5 -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:48 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? Assuming we are talking about sharpness at optimum aperture, I would have to say my FA50 1.4, closely followed by the FA100 2.8 macro and the FA135 2.8. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I do not have a GREAT collection of lenses from which to choose, but I would have to say that mine right now, at least the sharpest wide open is the Tele-Takumar 200mm f5.6. In addition to sharpness it has great color and contrast. I love that lens. I have two lenses on the way that might rival it (we'll have to see)... a Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f2.8-3.5 and a screwmount S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). The latter is definitely not the sharpest wide open (but acceptably so) but is often mentioned as one of the finest 135mm lenses in the known universe. What say you? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't test, but I think my DA* 50-135mm and the FA 50mm f 1.4 might rank at the top, but I have to say, I'm happy with the quality of all my lenses. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:25 AM Subject: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I do not have a GREAT collection of lenses from which to choose, but I would have to say that mine right now, at least the sharpest wide open is the Tele-Takumar 200mm f5.6. In addition to sharpness it has great color and contrast. I love that lens. I have two lenses on the way that might rival it (we'll have to see)... a Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f2.8-3.5 and a screwmount S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). The latter is definitely not the sharpest wide open (but acceptably so) but is often mentioned as one of the finest 135mm lenses in the known universe. What say you? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I don't test, but I think my DA* 50-135mm and the FA 50mm f 1.4 might rank at the top, but I have to say, I'm happy with the quality of all my lenses. Cheers, Christine A lens that seems conspicuously absent from this discussion is the 55/1.4. For that matter, I hardly ever see the lens mentioned at all. Does anyone even own one? How does it compare with the P-FA 50/1.4? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My sharpest lens is always the one on my camera for some reason. When I look through the others the images are usually upside down and rather blurry. Plus they never take good pictures like my camera does when I point it in the right direction. In other words, I am not a pixel peeper - I lack both funds and passion for such an indulgence. Cheers Ecke 2011/6/23 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I don't test, but I think my DA* 50-135mm and the FA 50mm f 1.4 might rank at the top, but I have to say, I'm happy with the quality of all my lenses. Cheers, Christine A lens that seems conspicuously absent from this discussion is the 55/1.4. For that matter, I hardly ever see the lens mentioned at all. Does anyone even own one? How does it compare with the P-FA 50/1.4? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm always confused when people bring up the pixel peeper label as if our eyes can't distinguish relative sharpness in our images (film or digital). Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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OK let's just say I take a less analytic approach... I either like an image or I don't. I'd never make a good wine taster. No offense I hope Ecke 2011/6/23 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: I'm always confused when people bring up the pixel peeper label as if our eyes can't distinguish relative sharpness in our images (film or digital). Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The FA 77/1.8 the K 135/2.5. Although ever since I got the K-5 everything else became sharp... On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I do not have a GREAT collection of lenses from which to choose, but I would have to say that mine right now, at least the sharpest wide open is the Tele-Takumar 200mm f5.6. In addition to sharpness it has great color and contrast. I love that lens. I have two lenses on the way that might rival it (we'll have to see)... a Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f2.8-3.5 and a screwmount S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). The latter is definitely not the sharpest wide open (but acceptably so) but is often mentioned as one of the finest 135mm lenses in the known universe. What say you? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Ecke PDML overpenta...@googlemail.com wrote: No offense I hope Ecke None taken. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11-06-23 2:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I don't test, but I think my DA* 50-135mm and the FA 50mm f 1.4 might rank at the top, but I have to say, I'm happy with the quality of all my lenses. Cheers, Christine A lens that seems conspicuously absent from this discussion is the 55/1.4. For that matter, I hardly ever see the lens mentioned at all. Does anyone even own one? How does it compare with the P-FA 50/1.4? I have one, and there are at least three other PDMLers with them as well. It's become my workhorse lens. I've been doing portrait shooting (outdoor corporate headshots this morning) and for that it has the right combo of lightness (beats the DA* 50-135 for that), speed (1.4 vs 2.8) and that portrait lens pleasant softness attributed to the classic 85mm Pentax glass. I also use it as my default carry. I'm going to some sort of local arts media mashup tonight and I'll have it on the K20D. It's very very sharp, but I can't give you a comparison as I've never owned the FA 50. I have an S-M-C Tak 50/1.4, but I rarely use it anymore; it's too much trouble. As for the whole glass sharpness comparison thing, I have to agree with the who cares folks. All my Pentax glass is sharp enough for what I use it for, even the original kit lenses I got with the K100D. I have a small collection of lenses, all picked for specific purposes and all see good use. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2011-06-23 14:04 , Darren Addy wrote: I'm always confused when people bring up the pixel peeper label as if our eyes can't distinguish relative sharpness in our images (film or digital). i don't print images and my display only has 1920x1200 pixels, so it's only when i zoom in to 100% that i see the actual pixels; that's pixel peeping (though others go further) -- i can more easily see the relative sharpness then, and with a detailed image i can also quickly tell whether i've come close to the resolution of my sensor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open Overall, My Nikkor 210/5.6 4x5 lens. It covers 5x7 so movements are a bit limited, but at f/22 to f/45 it is slice your eyes out sharp. Wide open, none of them really, but the *600/5.6 would probably be it. The A*85/1.4 is OK wide open as well. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 23, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I don't test, but I think my DA* 50-135mm and the FA 50mm f 1.4 might rank at the top, but I have to say, I'm happy with the quality of all my lenses. Cheers, Christine A lens that seems conspicuously absent from this discussion is the 55/1.4. For that matter, I hardly ever see the lens mentioned at all. Does anyone even own one? How does it compare with the P-FA 50/1.4? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I have the 55/1.4 and quite enjoy that lens. In the film era I had an FA*85/1.4, the 55 reminds me of that lens. And that lens was very very nice in many respects. I regret selling it but I needed to finance purchase of my 77mm which had equivalent quality, similar FOV, and much is smaller and easier to travel with. If I had to give up the 55mm or 77mm today, I would probably keep the 77, again primarily based on size. But the 55/`1.4 makes a great companion to the 21mm for walking a city like Venice or Rome in the evening . . . I can't compare the 55 to the FA-50; I never liked the look or feel of FA lenses and was able to pretty much skip over that generation of lenses, substituting either M or A lenses or FA* lenses. And then we got to the digital bodies and DA and DA* lenses and I've had even less reason to acquire any FA glass. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Out of all the Pentax lenses I owned and used, the FA43, FA77 and DA21 were the best performers, in that order, overall. (My use of them inverted the order in general...) I don't do technically viable resolution and contrast test from which to infer what their specific performance wide open might be. On Wednesday, June 22, 2011, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I do not have a GREAT collection of lenses from which to choose, but I would have to say that mine right now, at least the sharpest wide open is the Tele-Takumar 200mm f5.6. In addition to sharpness it has great color and contrast. I love that lens. I have two lenses on the way that might rival it (we'll have to see)... a Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f2.8-3.5 and a screwmount S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). The latter is definitely not the sharpest wide open (but acceptably so) but is often mentioned as one of the finest 135mm lenses in the known universe. What say you? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Assuming we are talking about sharpness at optimum aperture, I would have to say my FA50 1.4, closely followed by the FA100 2.8 macro and the FA135 2.8. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I do not have a GREAT collection of lenses from which to choose, but I would have to say that mine right now, at least the sharpest wide open is the Tele-Takumar 200mm f5.6. In addition to sharpness it has great color and contrast. I love that lens. I have two lenses on the way that might rival it (we'll have to see)... a Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f2.8-3.5 and a screwmount S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). The latter is definitely not the sharpest wide open (but acceptably so) but is often mentioned as one of the finest 135mm lenses in the known universe. What say you? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Overall and wide open, my sharpest lens is undoubtedly the DA* 60-250/4. if restricted to one stop, my k 85/1.8 might well be the sharpest, probably at f 5.6. My K 28/3.5 was amazingly sharp at f 5.6 and f8, but I no longer own that lens. I have several FA lenses. I don't find any of them to be remarkably sharp. Paul On Jun 22, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I do not have a GREAT collection of lenses from which to choose, but I would have to say that mine right now, at least the sharpest wide open is the Tele-Takumar 200mm f5.6. In addition to sharpness it has great color and contrast. I love that lens. I have two lenses on the way that might rival it (we'll have to see)... a Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f2.8-3.5 and a screwmount S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). The latter is definitely not the sharpest wide open (but acceptably so) but is often mentioned as one of the finest 135mm lenses in the known universe. What say you? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'll say 50-135. 2011/6/22 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com: Assuming we are talking about sharpness at optimum aperture, I would have to say my FA50 1.4, closely followed by the FA100 2.8 macro and the FA135 2.8. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I do not have a GREAT collection of lenses from which to choose, but I would have to say that mine right now, at least the sharpest wide open is the Tele-Takumar 200mm f5.6. In addition to sharpness it has great color and contrast. I love that lens. I have two lenses on the way that might rival it (we'll have to see)... a Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f2.8-3.5 and a screwmount S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). The latter is definitely not the sharpest wide open (but acceptably so) but is often mentioned as one of the finest 135mm lenses in the known universe. What say you? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'd have to say the DA 35mm 1:2.8 Macro Limited; O WO. It's so sharp I have to handle it with gloves on. -bmw On 11-06-22 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I do not have a GREAT collection of lenses from which to choose, but I would have to say that mine right now, at least the sharpest wide open is the Tele-Takumar 200mm f5.6. In addition to sharpness it has great color and contrast. I love that lens. I have two lenses on the way that might rival it (we'll have to see)... a Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f2.8-3.5 and a screwmount S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). The latter is definitely not the sharpest wide open (but acceptably so) but is often mentioned as one of the finest 135mm lenses in the known universe. What say you? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2011-06-22 09:25 , Darren Addy wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open i'm pretty sure my A 50/1.7 and M 50/1.4 are quite sharp, not sure which is sharper but i use the 1.7 mostly; my Sigma 105/2.8 EX Macro is probably sharper, and probably has a flatter field; i have an SMC Bellows 100/4 which i've only used a bit; perhaps it's even sharper but i really don't know for sure; for me it raises the question should i do more tests (at the expense of time practicing making a picture)? probably not, but i test a bit now and then in a casual way; mostly i intuit from the results i get, and i think all of the above lenses can get about as much as i can from the sensor of my K200d; should i question that assumption? would i start to see the limits of these lenses with a K5? when i pixel peep i also seem to get plenty of sharpness from my Sigma 28/2.8 and even my DA 16-45 at f/8 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: snip So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open snip What say you? My lenses are very rarely the limiting factor in the sharpness of my photos. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: My lenses are very rarely the limiting factor in the sharpness of my photos. True dat! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2011-06-22 11:25, Darren Addy wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: I couldn't tell you from direct experimentation or measurement, but my instinct is that it's probably either the K 135/2.5 or FA* 200/2.8 in my stable. The F* 300/4.5 is right up there, too. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The sharpest lens I own is the Vivitar 90-180m f4.5 flat field. That's just purely subjective, no actual testing. It is however not particularly convenient being heavy, relatively slow, and requiring the green button kludge to meter properly. Of my Pentax lenses, the 43mm limited is best stopped down just a bit, the SMCP [K] 135mm f2.5 is very sharp wide open, and the SMCP-F 70-210mm gets lots of complements on it's sharpness. On 6/22/2011 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I do not have a GREAT collection of lenses from which to choose, but I would have to say that mine right now, at least the sharpest wide open is the Tele-Takumar 200mm f5.6. In addition to sharpness it has great color and contrast. I love that lens. I have two lenses on the way that might rival it (we'll have to see)... a Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f2.8-3.5 and a screwmount S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). The latter is definitely not the sharpest wide open (but acceptably so) but is often mentioned as one of the finest 135mm lenses in the known universe. What say you? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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With out a doubt my 200mm f4.0 ED Macro SMC Pentax A*, although I've never run any objective tests to compare it with my other lenses. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great optical design. There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the sharpest in the Pentax stable, and others beyond Pentax (Zeiss probably most often mentioned). So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I do not have a GREAT collection of lenses from which to choose, but I would have to say that mine right now, at least the sharpest wide open is the Tele-Takumar 200mm f5.6. In addition to sharpness it has great color and contrast. I love that lens. I have two lenses on the way that might rival it (we'll have to see)... a Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f2.8-3.5 and a screwmount S-M-C Takumar 135mm f2.5 (version 2). The latter is definitely not the sharpest wide open (but acceptably so) but is often mentioned as one of the finest 135mm lenses in the known universe. What say you? Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Being evasive are we Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: My lenses are very rarely the limiting factor in the sharpness of my photos. True dat! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote: My lenses are very rarely the limiting factor in the sharpness of my photos. Do you imply they are sharper than you? ;-) You should stop that self-flagellation! :-) Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Who would sharpen their member? On 6/22/2011 3:34 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I [mis]read the topic as: PDMLers: what is your SHARPEST member? Cheers, Igor -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:47 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Who would sharpen their member? A sharpened member could lead to a prick. On 6/22/2011 3:34 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I [mis]read the topic as: PDMLers: what is your SHARPEST member? Cheers, Igor -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: A sharpened member could lead to a prick. PDML has several members who, on occasion, might match that description. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 22, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com wrote: My lenses are very rarely the limiting factor in the sharpness of my photos. Do you imply they are sharper than you? ;-) That's not setting the bar very high. You should stop that self-flagellation! :-) Either that, or I'm bragging about the quality of my lenses. My most commonly used lenses are my 16-50, FA31, FA77 and DA40. My P50/1.4 is a bit soft wide open, and unfortunately that's how I most often use it as I usually pick it up when I need f/1.4. My 18-250 isn't particularly sharp, but it's sharper at 250 than cropping down from something much shorter. The A* 200/2.8 is pretty sharp, but I mostly use it when I need fast and long. The bigma can be pretty sharp, again sharper at 500 than cropping down from something a lot shorter, but as my recent bird pictures show, it can be a challenge getting sharpness out of it. Stop just about any of those lenses down to f/8-f11 and you'll be hard pressed to tell one from another based on sharpness. I've got a couple of shots I took with the kit lens on the K-x, just for fun, and was pleasantly surprised at how sharp they were. The only reason that I don't use that lens is because my 18-250 is about as sharp and more versatile, and the DA40 is a lot smaller if I want something small and light. For sheer image quality I'd say my favorite lens is my FA77, possibly followed by my DA40. The FA31 is a solid performer and a useful focal length and speed, but for some reason I never developed a strong emotional attachment to its performance. Kind of like the 16-50, I find that I leave the zoom on my K-5 most of the time these days, and it does the job, but it's not a lens that I look forward to using. The other reason that my lenses are rarely the limiting factor is that one of my many peculiarities is that I seem to have more fun working hard to get a decently sharp picture out of lousy light, than I do getting a fantastically sharp picture in good light. If anyone could take a picture, there's no need for me to, I'd rather go for the shot that most people can't even get, where reasonably sharp is a pretty significant technical achievement. Then again, I'm probably not the only odd duck on this list. Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: My lenses are very rarely the limiting factor in the sharpness of my photos. MARK!! (that could be the quote of the year so far, BTW) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson Thank you. ;-) snip So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I don't know, I really don't. I guess I'd have to say my Leica f2.0 40mm Summicron C. Sure wish I had a digital body I could put that sucker on. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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frank theriault wrote Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:11:18 -0700 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson Thank you. ;-) snip So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I don't know, I really don't. I guess I'd have to say my Leica f2.0 40mm Summicron C. Sure wish I had a digital body I could put that sucker on. Frank, I have two copies of the Summicron-C 50 and neither is as sharp as my Summicron 50 v4 and v5 lenses. This is on a M8.2 body. Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have finally sold all my mediocre lenses. The remainder are all sharp. #1 FA50/1.4 #2 FA28/2.8 #3 FA24-90 #4 A70-210 Oops. Got a generic 500/8 t-mount yesterday. Might keep it for baseball/Wrigley. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska. For my 6x7 it is the 200mm tak. Love this one. For digital my D FA 50 2.8 is my bets. It was dialed in by Pentax for the K10-D. My 77ltd and my 100 macro are good but i think i need them dialed in. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open I don't know, I really don't. I guess I'd have to say my Leica f2.0 40mm Summicron C. Sure wish I had a digital body I could put that sucker on. cheers, frank Frank - that is why I bought an Olympus PEN EL-2 + Leica adapter. Stop by sometime and you are welcome to try it with your Summicron . . . Maybe we can get a Detroit or Sarnia PDML gather together, you can round up a tram-load of PDMLers from Toronto region. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sinc eyou don't ask sharpest *working* lens I'd say the A* 200 f4 macro ED. Other notables that come to mind would be an M 50 f4 macro, both M and FA 50 1.7, and (stopped down) Takumar 105 f2.5 (6x7). The D-FA 100 f2.8 is right up there too. MCC On 2011-06-22 09:25 , Darren Addy wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open Every once in a while I have flirted with the notion of testing various lenses, but each time quickly realize two things. First, I have neither the patience nor the skill to properly do a comparative test. Second, it really doesn't matter. Some lenses feel right and give a pleasing result; other lenses I sell. So, a totally unscientific, very subjective answer to the question: 1. The only thing sharper than my FA* 200/4.0 macro is a Ginsu knife. 2. The A-120/4.0 macro (645 mount) was quite special also. 3. Of my more modern lenses, the 60-250/4.0 and 16-50/2.8 are both lenses that have no tradeoffs; i.e., I don't have to stop and think if I am sacrificing image quality in order to get the wide or long FOV I want. But the 50-135/2.8 is the one that is most often attached to a camera body. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The other reason that my lenses are rarely the limiting factor is that one of my many peculiarities is that I seem to have more fun working hard to get a decently sharp picture out of lousy light, than I do getting a fantastically sharp picture in good light. If anyone could take a picture, there's no need for me to, I'd rather go for the shot that most people can't even get, where reasonably sharp is a pretty significant technical achievement. Then again, I'm probably not the only odd duck on this list. Har! We are even! ... at least we are not lame ducks. :-) (I hope...) Igor PS. I knew what your meant. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Subject: Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open Every once in a while I have flirted with the notion of testing various lenses, but each time quickly realize two things. First, I have neither the patience nor the skill to properly do a comparative test. Second, it really doesn't matter. Some lenses feel right and give a pleasing result; other lenses I sell. More important would be to know at which f stop each partiicular is sharpest. So, a totally unscientific, very subjective answer to the question: 1. The only thing sharper than my FA* 200/4.0 macro is a Ginsu knife. 2. The A-120/4.0 macro (645 mount) was quite special also. 3. Of my more modern lenses, the 60-250/4.0 and 16-50/2.8 are both lenses that have no tradeoffs; i.e., I don't have to stop and think if I am sacrificing image quality in order to get the wide or long FOV I want. But the 50-135/2.8 is the one that is most often attached to a camera body. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Should be - More important would be to know at which f stop each partiicular lens is sharpest. I guess I'll have to start reading these before I hit send Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Subject: Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Subject: Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I love Frank's sig: Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open Every once in a while I have flirted with the notion of testing various lenses, but each time quickly realize two things. First, I have neither the patience nor the skill to properly do a comparative test. Second, it really doesn't matter. Some lenses feel right and give a pleasing result; other lenses I sell. More important would be to know at which f stop each partiicular is sharpest. So, a totally unscientific, very subjective answer to the question: 1. The only thing sharper than my FA* 200/4.0 macro is a Ginsu knife. 2. The A-120/4.0 macro (645 mount) was quite special also. 3. Of my more modern lenses, the 60-250/4.0 and 16-50/2.8 are both lenses that have no tradeoffs; i.e., I don't have to stop and think if I am sacrificing image quality in order to get the wide or long FOV I want. But the 50-135/2.8 is the one that is most often attached to a camera body. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 6/22/2011 18:25, Darren Addy wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open Darren, this is a tricky question. So here is my tricky answer. 1. Most importantly, I almost always shoot hand-held, which immediately implies that I don't extract all the sharpness there is from my lenses. 2. I've all three FA limited lenses that are pretty sharp. I think that FA31 is the sharpest wide open and FA43 is the sharpest closed down a bit. FA 77 is also very sharp, but in a pleasing, not bleeding way. 3. Some of the shots that I made with A 50/1.2 wide open were surprisingly sharp for my taste. Closed down it is also very sharp. 4. Sigma 24-60/2.8 is soft-ish wide open but from f/3.5 on it can be bitingly sharp - like in - you can count separate hairs on the eye brows of my girls from their portraits. 5. DA 21 ain't too impressive wide open, but close it a stop or two and it is pretty sharp. It is Galia's lens now, by the way. 6. Our most resent buy - D FA 50/2.8 is very sharp too and the sharpness is uniform across the frame. Galia uses it with great success. 7. My copy of FA 50/1.4 is also very sharp. It is so sharp that its previous owner was somewhat reluctant to part with it. So, to summarize - when choosing a lens for a shoot or for a walk or even for travel I don't concern myself with sharpness. I would suggest a similar approach. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
