Re: Lightroom Question
I'm using Photoshop CS6 with ACR 9.1.1 and also LIghtroom v6.0. I only have two newer lenses - DFA 28-105 and DFA 15-30 - but profiles for both seem to be supported, even though Adobe says they are not. Screenshots: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/lens-correction-in-acr-9?blog=9 The only thing is that neither ACR or Lightroom detect the unsupported lenses. When I check "enable profile correction" nothing happens but if I then select Pentax under "Make"both ACR and LR detect the lens at that point and load the profile. The officially supported lenses are automatically detected without the lens make being entered. This does not make the lens name appear in the file's exif data, but I think that running the raw files through an up to date version of Adobe DNG converter will add that info. Mark On 8/10/2018 11:56 AM, Bill wrote: I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as "unknown". I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is the wrong platform. My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or is this even possible? thanks bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
Yes. The LensTagger plugin presents you with a screen where you can fill in the relevant data, and save it as a preset. When you run the command, it is actually executed by another program, the exiftool by Phil Harvey. Afterwards, you need to update metadata from file in LR to see the change. To run the plugin on multiple files, you just select them in the Library module before starting the plugin. The processing capacity seems to be a max limit of between 30 and 50 files somewhere. Jostein Den 11.08.2018 23:38, skrev Jos de Fotograaf: Hi Jostijn, Interesting option Is my understanding right, that I have to add the information manually to each picture, sometimes in batch? Greetz, Jos On 8/10/2018 11:14 PM, Jostein wrote: Bill, I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to write specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, and well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO. https://www.lenstagger.com/ Jostein Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill: I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as "unknown". I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is the wrong platform. My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or is this even possible? thanks bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh Bill make a copy of your old cameraraw file befor you start modifiying it! On 8/11/2018 11:27 PM, Jos de Fotograaf wrote: Hi Bill, Profile I do not know, but lens naming I do as follows: I have a picture taken with a K5 and this Sigma 10-20mm this name is not known by light room, When I read its metadata with the little program "PhotoMe", it shows lens ID: 3 44 When I import this photo into lightroom, the lens is named: "Sigma or Tamron lens" Many Sigma lenses have the lens ID "3 44" My understanding is that LR translates the ID "3 44" into the name "Sigma or Tamron lens" LR uses its file "cameraraw.dll" to do this. When I open this cameraraw file with the little program HxD, I found the "3 44" and the wording "Sigma or Tamron lens" (find the lens section by using the search function for "Sigma" or Pentax") As I have only one Sigma lens in possession with the ID "3 44" , I changed the wording in the cameraraw file in: "Sigma 10-20mm /4-5.6 EX" From now on, my pictures taken with this lens, get the correct name at importing. I do this in lightroom CC clasic, but did it also in LR5. In your case: find the lens code of your lens (with PhotoMe or other program). In the camera raw file, change the lens ID of a lens that you are not having or using. See what name comes out when when importing a picture taken with that lens. Change that name in the cameraraw file. It can take some trial and error the get it right. Greetz, Jos On 8/10/2018 5:56 PM, Bill wrote: I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as "unknown". I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is the wrong platform. My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or is this even possible? thanks bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Jostijn, Interesting option Is my understanding right, that I have to add the information manually to each picture, sometimes in batch? Greetz, Jos On 8/10/2018 11:14 PM, Jostein wrote: Bill, I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to write specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, and well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO. https://www.lenstagger.com/ Jostein Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill: I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as "unknown". I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is the wrong platform. My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or is this even possible? thanks bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
Hi Bill, Profile I do not know, but lens naming I do as follows: I have a picture taken with a K5 and this Sigma 10-20mm this name is not known by light room, When I read its metadata with the little program "PhotoMe", it shows lens ID: 3 44 When I import this photo into lightroom, the lens is named: "Sigma or Tamron lens" Many Sigma lenses have the lens ID "3 44" My understanding is that LR translates the ID "3 44" into the name "Sigma or Tamron lens" LR uses its file "cameraraw.dll" to do this. When I open this cameraraw file with the little program HxD, I found the "3 44" and the wording "Sigma or Tamron lens" (find the lens section by using the search function for "Sigma" or Pentax") As I have only one Sigma lens in possession with the ID "3 44" , I changed the wording in the cameraraw file in: "Sigma 10-20mm /4-5.6 EX" From now on, my pictures taken with this lens, get the correct name at importing. I do this in lightroom CC clasic, but did it also in LR5. In your case: find the lens code of your lens (with PhotoMe or other program). In the camera raw file, change the lens ID of a lens that you are not having or using. See what name comes out when when importing a picture taken with that lens. Change that name in the cameraraw file. It can take some trial and error the get it right. Greetz, Jos On 8/10/2018 5:56 PM, Bill wrote: I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as "unknown". I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is the wrong platform. My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or is this even possible? thanks bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Do you recon it would work with Adobe Bridge CS6? On 8/10/2018 17:14, Jostein wrote: Bill, I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to write specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, and well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO. https://www.lenstagger.com/ Jostein Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill: I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as "unknown". I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is the wrong platform. My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or is this even possible? thanks bill -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It would be awesome if there was a collection of these lens profiles someplace. Lr 6 doesn't even have one for the fa50/1.4 On August 10, 2018 2:14:02 PM PDT, Jostein wrote: >Bill, >I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional >optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to >write >specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, and >well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO. >https://www.lenstagger.com/ > >Jostein > >Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill: >> I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect >any >> more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as >> "unknown". >> I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it >is >> the wrong platform. >> My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens >> correctly, or is this even possible? >> >> thanks >> >> bill >> > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
Bill, I'm still on Lightoom 5, and anyways use a number of unconventional optical setups. I use a plugin called LensTagger that allows me to write specific lens designations into the XMP tags. It's donationware, and well worth the dollars you can spare, IMHO. https://www.lenstagger.com/ Jostein Den 10.08.2018 17:56, skrev Bill: I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as "unknown". I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is the wrong platform. My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or is this even possible? thanks bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lightroom Question
Hi Bill, I suspect someone on the list probably has a more detailed knowledge of this question. But maybe a small tidbit that I know could be helpful. I am not sure what you meant by the "wrong platform": Mac vs. Windows or LR CC vs earlier versions. There is a tool "Adobe Lens Profile Creator" available for download for both Mac and Windows: https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/digital-negative.html#Adobe_Lens_Profile_Creator What I don't know if this profile would work for the earlier versions of LR. More over, - I am not sure if this profile creator allows you to enter "unknown" lenses in the database. From what I understand, - it allows saving lens profiles for corrections in LR, but maybe it would also allow adding a new lens. You can try. https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/lens-profile-support.html Cheers, Igor Bill Fri, 10 Aug 2018 08:57:46 -0700 wrote: I am using an old enough version of Lightroom that I cannot expect any more updates (camera raw 7), and my new D FA* 50mm lens is listed as "unknown". I found a profile writer on the Adobe website, but unfortunately, it is the wrong platform. My question is, how do I get Lightroom to identify my new lens correctly, or is this even possible? thanks bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
Bill wrote: I'm probably missing something obvious, but in Lightroom 6 (not CC), when rating images by star, there is a banner popup that indicates an image has just been given a rating. Can it be made to go away? If you wait about a second, it will go away. If you don't want the notification at all, I'm sure you can find out if it can be turned off by watching an hour and a half of instructional videos, because that is so much easier than an indexed written manual. thanks bill -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question: cropped DNGs for panoramas
Larry Colen wrote: The Lightroom panorama function works pretty well, for most things. However, I have a couple cases of adjacent frames that each have a meteor trail in them. Since I can't tell LR which areas I specifically want to include/exclude in a panorama, is it possible to take my initial DNGs, and crop copies of them so that the area with the meteor trail is only in one file, forcing LR to include the meteor trail in the final panorama? I haven't yet tried this, I expect that it might work by using the export or print functionality, I.e. make a crop and export the cropped area as a DNG (or if need be a TIFF). I suspect that this is something trivial to do in Photoshop, but that's a can of worms I'd rather avoid at the moment. I just wasted a bunch of time wrestling with this. If you export a cropped dng as a dng, you get the full dng, with the cropping info. If you export it as a tiff it won't work in a merge. If you convert that tiff to a dng, it still won't work in a merge. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question: cropped DNGs for panoramas
On 13/08/2015 5:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Larry Colen wrote: The Lightroom panorama function works pretty well, for most things. However, I have a couple cases of adjacent frames that each have a meteor trail in them. Since I can't tell LR which areas I specifically want to include/exclude in a panorama, is it possible to take my initial DNGs, and crop copies of them so that the area with the meteor trail is only in one file, forcing LR to include the meteor trail in the final panorama? I haven't yet tried this, I expect that it might work by using the export or print functionality, I.e. make a crop and export the cropped area as a DNG (or if need be a TIFF). I suspect that this is something trivial to do in Photoshop, but that's a can of worms I'd rather avoid at the moment. I just wasted a bunch of time wrestling with this. If you export a cropped dng as a dng, you get the full dng, with the cropping info. If you export it as a tiff it won't work in a merge. If you convert that tiff to a dng, it still won't work in a merge. I could have told you that. This is both the beauty and Achilles heel of the way Lightroom processes a file. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Did you do a copy or move when doing the import? If so, then the files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is. If you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card. I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot themselves in the foot. If you can see the pictures in Lightroom, you can right click on it and select Go to Folder in Library, or Show in Explorer. The one hitch about Go to Folder in Library is that, by default, Lightroom suppresses the display of unnecessary parent folders in the folder hierarchy, so it still might not be obvious where you are. The higher levels can be shown by right-clicking on a folder and selecting Show Parent Folder until you have enough context. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Did you do a copy or move when doing the import? If so, then the files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is. If you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card. I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot themselves in the foot. Hence, the part about Add. If you can see the pictures in Lightroom, you can right click on it and select Go to Folder in Library, or Show in Explorer. The one hitch about Go to Folder in Library is that, by default, Lightroom suppresses the display of unnecessary parent folders in the folder hierarchy, so it still might not be obvious where you are. The higher levels can be shown by right-clicking on a folder and selecting Show Parent Folder until you have enough context. Show in Explorer shows unambiguously where the files are in the file system, because it opens File Explorer. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Did you do a copy or move when doing the import? If so, then the files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is. If you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card. I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot themselves in the foot. The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-( I'm not ready for full time teaching yet. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:27 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:33 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Did you do a copy or move when doing the import? If so, then the files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is. If you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card. I can't test it right now, but I don't think Lightroom will let you add-in-place from a memory card. Too many people would shoot themselves in the foot. Hence, the part about Add. Huh? My point is that it doesn't make sense to talk about Add from a memory card. See page 23 of the manual: http://helpx.adobe.com/pdf/lightroom_reference.pdf Note: The Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a camera or camera card. Show in Explorer shows unambiguously where the files are in the file system, because it opens File Explorer. I agree, and suggested that in my reply to John. I suggested it instead of Go to Folder in Library because I thought Lightroom hiding parent folders might be confusing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-( I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a camera or camera card. Did the OS not recognize the device as a card? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-( I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a camera or camera card. Did the OS not recognize the device as a card? Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4. When the card was removed, all the images were marked with missing symbols, but of course thumbnail previews had all been created. The edits I did were saved back on the card before I removed it. I also couldn't convince Lr to reimport so I could do it right. Very frustrating. I'm sure I was doing something really dumb, but had no time to work it out then. I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called Kingston yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting me. Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher. :) There doesn't seem to be a delete function for Folders. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called Kingston yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting me. Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher. :) There doesn't seem to be a delete function for Folders. Right-click on it and Remove? http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/create-folders.html#delete_folders I would expect removing the folder (and hence the photos) from the Lightroom catalog would also allow it to re-import. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called Kingston yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting me. Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher. :) There doesn't seem to be a delete function for Folders. Right-click on it and Remove? http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/create-folders.html#delete_folders I would expect removing the folder (and hence the photos) from the Lightroom catalog would also allow it to re-import. Well I was right-clicking on the parent folder and no menu appears. When I just now right-clicked on the also missing child folder I was able to delete that, and so the parent disappeared too. Thanks! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 20/08/2014 8:01 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-( I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a camera or camera card. Did the OS not recognize the device as a card? Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4. When the card was removed, all the images were marked with missing symbols, but of course thumbnail previews had all been created. The edits I did were saved back on the card before I removed it. I also couldn't convince Lr to reimport so I could do it right. Very frustrating. I'm sure I was doing something really dumb, but had no time to work it out then. Unclick the option that says Don't Import Suspected Duplicates I haven't been able to get rid of the phantom Folder called Kingston yet either. It sits there on the left under the Folders tab taunting me. Nyah, nyah: you're a shitty teacher. :) There doesn't seem to be a delete function for Folders. Right click on the folder and click remove. After that, you should get an option to remove the folder from the catalog or to delete it entirely. If you don't get the remove entirely option, remove it from the catalog in Lightroom and then delete it manually from whatever location it has peen written to. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Lightroom recognizes any storage volume which is laid out with the DCIM directory structure as a camera or camera card. If you had loaded up a card with files and didn't honor the DCIM directory structure, Lightroom would simply see it as another USB mass storage volume allowing Add and Move import methods. Godfrey On 20/08/2014 8:01 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-( I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a camera or camera card. Did the OS not recognize the device as a card? Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This card came out of a K-5. Lr apparently glitched. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Lightroom recognizes any storage volume which is laid out with the DCIM directory structure as a camera or camera card. If you had loaded up a card with files and didn't honor the DCIM directory structure, Lightroom would simply see it as another USB mass storage volume allowing Add and Move import methods. Godfrey On 20/08/2014 8:01 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The hole in my foot is still smoking from two weeks ago when I did exactly that while tutoring another photographer. :-( I'm curious how that happened, because the manual confirms that the Add and Move import methods are not available when importing from a camera or camera card. Did the OS not recognize the device as a card? Apparently not. Mac OS X. Lr 4.4. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In my experience, it's much more likely that the card had some issue with its file system at that time. It hardly matters, but in every case like this I've examined when I was teaching and doing client support, the issues were never resolved to be a LR fault, they were always something in the card, the camera, the cable, the reader, etc. If LR allowed Move or In Place mode operations, something about the card or in the chain of operations that mounted it did not inform LR that it was a DCIM storage device. It would be interesting to know what that was. :-) Godfrey On Aug 20, 2014, at 1:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: This card came out of a K-5. Lr apparently glitched. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Lightroom recognizes any storage volume which is laid out with the DCIM directory structure as a camera or camera card. If you had loaded up a card with files and didn't honor the DCIM directory structure, Lightroom would simply see it as another USB mass storage volume allowing Add and Move import methods. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
On 8/19/2014 10:32 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: I made the mistake of importing images directly into lightroom from my memory card. Not sure why that would be considered a mistake; I consider it a normal workflow. It was a mistake for two reasons: 1. My photos didn't end up where I told Lightroom to put them. 2. I couldn't find my photos with Adobe Bridge or Windoze search. But where the hell are my actual DNG files? Right-click on a thumbnail, Show in Explorer. Ok. Now I know where they are. All I got to do is figure out how to make Lightroom put 'em where I wanted 'em in the first place. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
In Lightroom, library mode, grid view, select the files. Then drag them to the folder in the Folders panel you want them to be located in. LR will do the move operation and update the database properly. Godfrey On Aug 20, 2014, at 4:04 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: Ok. Now I know where they are. All I got to do is figure out how to make Lightroom put 'em where I wanted 'em in the first place. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: I made the mistake of importing images directly into lightroom from my memory card. Not sure why that would be considered a mistake; I consider it a normal workflow. But where the hell are my actual DNG files? Right-click on a thumbnail, Show in Explorer. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
Did you do a copy or move when doing the import? If so, then the files are on your hard drive, wherever the default location is. If you did an Add, then the files are still on the memory card. If you can see the pictures in Lightroom, you can right click on it and select Go to Folder in Library, or Show in Explorer. On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: Not even off topic here this time ... I got my laptop out to exercise it before the PPofNC convention and re-installed software - Photoshop CS5, Lightroom 3.2 and Corel Painter 11. This time when I installed Lightroom I managed to do so without it trying to catalog every image on both hard-drives. But I am having another problem ... I made the mistake of importing images directly into lightroom from my memory card. I can see the images IN LIGHTROOM. I can do all sorts of lightroom stuff to them ... But where the hell are my actual DNG files? Like if I wanted to open an image with Photoshop so I could convert it to a PSD file I can open with Painter? NO, I am NOT going to upgrade lightroom to the latest version if I can't ever get the version I already paid for to work. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
Will this work? Open the file with her tweaks Create a develop preset Open your original RAW file and create a virtual copy Apply the preset of her tweaks to the new copy -p Sent from my iPad On Jun 16, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: My friend Candice wanted to try her hand at processing one of my photos in lightroom. I exported several virtual copies of it onto a catalog on a usb stick. She imported that catalog, made the tweaks she wanted and saved the catalog back to the usb stick. I’d like to import her edits to the file as virtual copies along side my edits, but I seem to either have the option of copying the files to a new location, or importing the edits leaving the files in place. If I try the latter, unmounting the stick, then pointing at the raw file already on my disk, it says it can’t have two things pointing to the same raw file. How do I solve this problem of merging edits as virtual copies? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
I may not understand the question. But it would seem that if you do an import-from-catalog you will bring in her (changed) files. Or just the changes to the files. If you don’t want to lose your originals in the process, make a duplicate first. The re-import will “overwrite the original but your duplicate should stay as it was. stan On Jun 17, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: My friend Candice wanted to try her hand at processing one of my photos in lightroom. I exported several virtual copies of it onto a catalog on a usb stick. She imported that catalog, made the tweaks she wanted and saved the catalog back to the usb stick. I’d like to import her edits to the file as virtual copies along side my edits, but I seem to either have the option of copying the files to a new location, or importing the edits leaving the files in place. If I try the latter, unmounting the stick, then pointing at the raw file already on my disk, it says it can’t have two things pointing to the same raw file. How do I solve this problem of merging edits as virtual copies? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LightRoom question/idea
What you are describing are Smart Collections. B On 1 Nov 2013, at 05:16, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, wise people of PDML :-). I have an idea/question. Say, in LightRoom Library module I set up a filter and see some pics. I sort them some, mark them some, etc. Then I decide to set up another filter, may be from different folder, may be from different parameters... I sort some more pics and so on. Is there a way in which I can easily go back to my previous filter (state of Library module window)? Is there a notion of tabbed Library module browsing? Are the plugins/addons that facilitate such convenience? Thanks. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LightRoom question/idea
On 11/1/2013 8:27 AM, Bob W wrote: What you are describing are Smart Collections. B I'm unfamiliar with this feature. So it is time to get acquainted. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: sorting manual from auto focus?
There's an EXIF token FocusMode that EXIFtool can read, but I suspect it's somewhat variable as to what cameras support using it and how it's included in EXIF data. Lightroom does not display it nor present it as a sorting option, so you'd need to write a script with EXIFtool to determine if a file had it, interpret the data associated, and then generate and insert a keyword. If you save metadata in LR first, run a script external to LR to do this on your files, then re-open LR and tell it to read metadata, it will include the new keywords in the catalog. G On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I assume that the exif data for photos mention whether they were taken on auto focus or manual focus. Is there a reasonably easy way in lightroom to sort photos out based on that? I'd like to see how often I focus on the mic rather than the musician, versus how often the camera does. I would settle for something that looked at the exif data and added a tag in lightroom based on info in the exif. If need be, I'd settle for using another tool to do the job. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: sorting manual from auto focus?
Jeff Friedl has a metadata viewer tool available as a plug-in, but it doesn't look to include AF data. He might update if you ask him, he's fairly responsive. http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/metadata-presets On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I assume that the exif data for photos mention whether they were taken on auto focus or manual focus. Is there a reasonably easy way in lightroom to sort photos out based on that? I'd like to see how often I focus on the mic rather than the musician, versus how often the camera does. I would settle for something that looked at the exif data and added a tag in lightroom based on info in the exif. If need be, I'd settle for using another tool to do the job. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
In a sense, yes. However, Bridge does not maintain an editing history or allow organization of files into collections and groupings independent of the file system. It simply records IPTC annotations and adds them to the processing parameter settings that Camera Raw writes into .XMP sidecar files (if you have Camera Raw configured that way ...). The .lrcat file is the database file representing a Lightroom catalog that contains all the information produced or used by Lightroom about the particular set of files you've imported into it, excepting the original files themselves and the previews generated for Lightroom to display. File location, type, time and date, EXIF data, IPTC data, any processing operations, groupings with other files, slide/print/web preset associations, etc etc etc, are all in the .lrcat file. This is a superset of what .XMP sidecar files can contain for each file, one file at a time. XMP data is limited to static IPTC and image adjustment parameters written as image metadata. On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:44 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I'm pretty sure I don't understand most of that except I think you're saying the .lrcat file performs the function for the whole catalog of images that the .xmp files performed for individual images in Bridge? From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR they're over HERE now. Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original is there and the thumbnails don't have that ? asking where the original is, though. That's the right way to do it for large directory trees of original image files. Right- or control-clicking on a folder name in the Folders panel brings up a popup menu with the command Update Folder Location You can essentially have multiple identical copies of the folder tree. Expose the topmost parent folder in the tree and just point LR to whichever one you want it to use at any time. I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information about edits changes. I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files ... Lightroom stores information about all operations on an image file, along with all the parameters, IPTC annotation, keywords, file location in the file system, etc, into an SQLlite database file. That's what the .lrcat or catalog file is. It can optionally store metadata describing the state and processing parameters (along with IPTC annotations) into .XMP format sidecar files for native raw files, or into DNG files. It can do the same with JPEG, PSD and TIFF files as well, if you enable that option. This is a subset of the full information contained in the database file as it does not contain the edit history, inclusion into collections, etc. It is simply a static output of the state of the processing controls?and IPTC metadata in Adobe eXtensible Metadata Protocol format. (I do not enable automatic synchronization of metadata nor do I enable it to store processing information into JPEG, PSD and TIFF files ... it's unnecessary unless you wish to use other applications in the Adobe Creative Suite which are aware of this information and synchronized to utilize it in conjunction with Lightroom and Camera Raw. Occasionally, in the production of rendered JPEG files, I force Lightroom to write metadata to files as I sometimes produce the rendered JPEG files through writing out a slide show or by compositing several images in the Print module. The procedure then is to import those exported products, synchronize the IPTC metadata from the original files, and force a write of the IPTC annotation so that it can be picked up on flickr and used by clients. I always strip processing information and EXIF camera data from my image products ... there's no point to including it.) - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
A related question: When moving a big directory tree, am I better moving the whole tree in lightroom? Or am I better off moving it with the file system, then just telling lightroom where the root of that tree is? On Jul 14, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the harddrive that I've been using for my raw files. So, I put the raw files from the weekend onto an external drive. When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files. I've been using lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm solving those hiccups. I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to share with other people. How do I go about this? I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to find it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: lightroom question: moving/copy
From: Larry Colen Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the harddrive that I've been using for my raw files. So, I put the raw files from the weekend onto an external drive. When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files. I've been using lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm solving those hiccups. I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to share with other people. How do I go about this? I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to find it. I'm not a lightroom guru by any means, but I think that once you have all your files in the place you want them, you can make a new lightroom catalog that points to those files in the location you want it to point to. Whenever you want to share them using lightroom, you use that new catalog. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:09, John Sessoms wrote: I'm not a lightroom guru by any means, but I think that once you have all your files in the place you want them, you can make a new lightroom catalog that points to those files in the location you want it to point to. Oy - wouldn't a new catalog contain none of the changes/edits? I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR they're over HERE now. Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original is there and the thumbnails don't have that ? asking where the original is, though. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
Wrote a complete article on exactly this subject some time ago: http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles/ click on 08 - Lightroom, moving a large number of files G On Thursday, July 14, 2011, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the harddrive that I've been using for my raw files. So, I put the raw files from the weekend onto an external drive. When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files. I've been using lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm solving those hiccups. I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to share with other people. How do I go about this? I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to find it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
On Jul 14, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Wrote a complete article on exactly this subject some time ago: http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles/ click on 08 - Lightroom, moving a large number of files Thanks. I wish I had asked first before starting. Changing halfway through would, I think, cause more problems than it would solve. Maybe this will save some other people some grief. At least it will help the next time I need to do something like this. G On Thursday, July 14, 2011, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the harddrive that I've been using for my raw files. So, I put the raw files from the weekend onto an external drive. When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files. I've been using lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm solving those hiccups. I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to share with other people. How do I go about this? I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to find it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: lightroom question: moving/copy
Don't use LR to move it across the network, it's painfully slow. You might find it simpler to copy the whole structure to the new disk, then use give the new disk the name that the old one had, so LR doesn't notice the difference. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: 14 July 2011 10:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: lightroom question: moving/copy A related question: When moving a big directory tree, am I better moving the whole tree in lightroom? Or am I better off moving it with the file system, then just telling lightroom where the root of that tree is? On Jul 14, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Last weekend, when photographing at a dojo event, I ran out of space on the harddrive that I've been using for my raw files. So, I put the raw files from the weekend onto an external drive. When I was at Costco today, they had a good price on a 3TB USB3 external drive, so I picked it up to be for just my raw files. I've been using lightroom to copy directory trees over from the old (Mixed use) drive to the new (just photo) drive. I've been running into some problems when part of a directory tree is already there and I can't just copy the top of the remaining tree over because the top level directory already exists. But, I'm solving those hiccups. I've got a bunch of files on the external drive, but rather than moving them to the new drive, I want to copy them, and just tell lightroom to use the copy, that way I've got all of the files in a convenient place for me to share with other people. How do I go about this? I think I've seen something about it, but don't remember where, or how to find it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
From: Charles Robinson On Jul 14, 2011, at 9:09, John Sessoms wrote: I'm not a lightroom guru by any means, but I think that once you have all your files in the place you want them, you can make a new lightroom catalog that points to those files in the location you want it to point to. Oy - wouldn't a new catalog contain none of the changes/edits? I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR they're over HERE now. Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original is there and the thumbnails don't have that ? asking where the original is, though. I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information about edits changes. I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files similar to the way Bridge stores the changes from ACR. If I were moving/copying files with Bridge, I'd be moving/copying the sidecar files along with the .PEF files, and the information about the changes would be there in the new location. I don't know why Adobe would reinvent the wheel when they have a system for storing information that works. But I don't know. If lightroom uses a different system, the changes might not be there, but I'm sure there must be some way to transfer information about changes edits into the new catalog. And I'm pretty damn sure make a new catalog is going to be at least part of the answer. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR they're over HERE now. Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original is there and the thumbnails don't have that ? asking where the original is, though. That's the right way to do it for large directory trees of original image files. Right- or control-clicking on a folder name in the Folders panel brings up a popup menu with the command Update Folder Location You can essentially have multiple identical copies of the folder tree. Expose the topmost parent folder in the tree and just point LR to whichever one you want it to use at any time. I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information about edits changes. I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files ... Lightroom stores information about all operations on an image file, along with all the parameters, IPTC annotation, keywords, file location in the file system, etc, into an SQLlite database file. That's what the .lrcat or catalog file is. It can optionally store metadata describing the state and processing parameters (along with IPTC annotations) into .XMP format sidecar files for native raw files, or into DNG files. It can do the same with JPEG, PSD and TIFF files as well, if you enable that option. This is a subset of the full information contained in the database file as it does not contain the edit history, inclusion into collections, etc. It is simply a static output of the state of the processing controls and IPTC metadata in Adobe eXtensible Metadata Protocol format. (I do not enable automatic synchronization of metadata nor do I enable it to store processing information into JPEG, PSD and TIFF files ... it's unnecessary unless you wish to use other applications in the Adobe Creative Suite which are aware of this information and synchronized to utilize it in conjunction with Lightroom and Camera Raw. Occasionally, in the production of rendered JPEG files, I force Lightroom to write metadata to files as I sometimes produce the rendered JPEG files through writing out a slide show or by compositing several images in the Print module. The procedure then is to import those exported products, synchronize the IPTC metadata from the original files, and force a write of the IPTC annotation so that it can be picked up on flickr and used by clients. I always strip processing information and EXIF camera data from my image products ... there's no point to including it.) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 14, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Wrote a complete article on exactly this subject some time ago: http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles/ click on 08 - Lightroom, moving a large number of files Thanks. I wish I had asked first before starting. Changing halfway through would, I think, cause more problems than it would solve. Maybe this will save some other people some grief. At least it will help the next time I need to do something like this. The files have moved on the disk. And if I look in the libraries, as far as I can tell lightroom thinks that they've moved. However for the past several hours I've had 4 operations in progress, each with a progress bar all the way to the right and saying moving folder. Running top shows lightroom averaging about 1% of the CPU. I thought there was a mac application to show system resource usage, but I can't find it. I never seem to be able to understand these intuitive user interfaces. Anyways, it's very frustrating because LR doesn't seem to be doing diddly. I'm afraid to stop it however, lest I really screw things up. Meanwhile, I don't know how many hours I need to let it sit and do nothing before it decides that it's done, and can't do anything. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The files have moved on the disk. And if I look in the libraries, as far as I can tell lightroom thinks that they've moved. However for the past several hours I've had 4 operations in progress, each with a progress bar all the way to the right and saying moving folder. Running top shows lightroom averaging about 1% of the CPU. I thought there was a mac application to show system resource usage, but I can't find it. I never seem to be able to understand these intuitive user interfaces. /Applicationa/Utilities/Activities Monitor.app - It's essentially taking the output from top and other unix utilities and putting them into a easily configurable windowed interface. As I say to our mutual friend and repeat here, If you don't bother to learn the system and its tools, you spend a lot of time and energy venting your frustration. It's not a Linux system, a Windows system or a UNIX system. Don't make assumptions. ;-) For the geeky minded, there are also a great deal more system and application analysis tools available when you install the Xcode development tools bundle. Anyways, it's very frustrating because LR doesn't seem to be doing diddly. I'm afraid to stop it however, lest I really screw things up. Meanwhile, I don't know how many hours I need to let it sit and do nothing before it decides that it's done, and can't do anything. Since I don't know what you did to move your file repository, I can't really help your understanding of what LR might be doing. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question: moving/copy
I'm pretty sure I don't understand most of that except I think you're saying the .lrcat file performs the function for the whole catalog of images that the .xmp files performed for individual images in Bridge? From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I'd move it outside of LR (just because why induce the overhead of having some other application doing the moving) and then just tell LR they're over HERE now. Not sure how to relocate/point to a different copy when the original is there and the thumbnails don't have that ? asking where the original is, though. That's the right way to do it for large directory trees of original image files. Right- or control-clicking on a folder name in the Folders panel brings up a popup menu with the command Update Folder Location You can essentially have multiple identical copies of the folder tree. Expose the topmost parent folder in the tree and just point LR to whichever one you want it to use at any time. I don't know. I guess that depends on how lightroom stores information about edits changes. I *think* it may use sidecar (.xmp) files ... Lightroom stores information about all operations on an image file, along with all the parameters, IPTC annotation, keywords, file location in the file system, etc, into an SQLlite database file. That's what the .lrcat or catalog file is. It can optionally store metadata describing the state and processing parameters (along with IPTC annotations) into .XMP format sidecar files for native raw files, or into DNG files. It can do the same with JPEG, PSD and TIFF files as well, if you enable that option. This is a subset of the full information contained in the database file as it does not contain the edit history, inclusion into collections, etc. It is simply a static output of the state of the processing controls?and IPTC metadata in Adobe eXtensible Metadata Protocol format. (I do not enable automatic synchronization of metadata nor do I enable it to store processing information into JPEG, PSD and TIFF files ... it's unnecessary unless you wish to use other applications in the Adobe Creative Suite which are aware of this information and synchronized to utilize it in conjunction with Lightroom and Camera Raw. Occasionally, in the production of rendered JPEG files, I force Lightroom to write metadata to files as I sometimes produce the rendered JPEG files through writing out a slide show or by compositing several images in the Print module. The procedure then is to import those exported products, synchronize the IPTC metadata from the original files, and force a write of the IPTC annotation so that it can be picked up on flickr and used by clients. I always strip processing information and EXIF camera data from my image products ... there's no point to including it.) - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3763 - Release Date: 07/13/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question, sorting by autofocus
Lightroom does not include the Focus Mode or any other focusing system EXIF tokens in the EXIF metadata it displays. Probably the best thing you can do is to use EXIFtool to extract the focusing specific information from your image files in a list and then add it to the image files as keywords. (I suspect the reason they don't show it is that there are a number of different EXIF tokens used by different manufacturers for focus specific aspects of a capture ... it would be a fairly complex mess to sort it out and present it in a sensible way for all camera makes and models.) On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I'm going over my photos from the event, and ran across a whole series of shots that were perfectly focused, on the microphone. I'd love to be able to sort photos on whether they were autofocused or manually focused to see if it was me, or the camera, blowing it. Is there a way to do this? I didn't see it, but could well have missed it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
Experiment a little bit with a copy of the files. I seem to recall that if you pick a range, with the most selected file at the head, and set a specified time for that file, the others will shift by the relative amount that implies. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was shooting with both bodies this weekend, particularly during dance contests when I had the FA31 on one body and the 18-250 on the other. Unfortunately, the clocks in the two cameras were out of sync by 5 minutes, so sorting by capture time almost, but doesn't quite, work right. I don't think so, I wasn't able to find it in the spitzer resnick book, but is there a way to select a group of pictures and say correct the capture time of all of these by 5 minutes? In Lightroom, the Metadata-Edit Capture Time... command should do exactly what you want. Thanks a bunch. If my cameras were exactly five hours out of sync, rather than five minutes, it would do exactly what I want. Unfortunately it seems that I have the choice of changing all of the files to the same time, or by an integer number of hours, not tweaking the files in one camera by five minutes so that a capture time sort works right. There's also an option in the Catalog Preferences, Metadata tab, to write date or time changes into proprietary raw files if you want to punch it directly into the original RAW files too. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
2009/12/8 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: Unfortunately it seems that I have the choice of changing all of the files to the same time, or by an integer number of hours, not tweaking the files in one camera by five minutes so that a capture time sort works right. Would it be an option to ccircumvent the whole problem this way: 1. Do a manual reordering of the images, 2. With that sort-order, do a rename. This will create a filename sequence that's chronological, if you did the job right in step one. Then you'll get it right by sorting on filename, at least. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
Godfrey's right - I Just tried it - I selected two photos - edited the capture time of the top one by clicking on the seconds and adding two, clicked the change all button and the second photo had two seconds added. So it should be a matter of selecting all the shots from the camera you want to change - adding five minutes to the first of the selection and then change them all - a two-minute job! Alastair On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Experiment a little bit with a copy of the files. I seem to recall that if you pick a range, with the most selected file at the head, and set a specified time for that file, the others will shift by the relative amount that implies. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was shooting with both bodies this weekend, particularly during dance contests when I had the FA31 on one body and the 18-250 on the other. Unfortunately, the clocks in the two cameras were out of sync by 5 minutes, so sorting by capture time almost, but doesn't quite, work right. I don't think so, I wasn't able to find it in the spitzer resnick book, but is there a way to select a group of pictures and say correct the capture time of all of these by 5 minutes? In Lightroom, the Metadata-Edit Capture Time... command should do exactly what you want. Thanks a bunch. If my cameras were exactly five hours out of sync, rather than five minutes, it would do exactly what I want. Unfortunately it seems that I have the choice of changing all of the files to the same time, or by an integer number of hours, not tweaking the files in one camera by five minutes so that a capture time sort works right. There's also an option in the Catalog Preferences, Metadata tab, to write date or time changes into proprietary raw files if you want to punch it directly into the original RAW files too. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:22 AM, Alastair Robertson wrote: Godfrey's right - I Just tried it - I selected two photos - edited the capture time of the top one by clicking on the seconds and adding two, clicked the change all button and the second photo had two seconds added. So it should be a matter of selecting all the shots from the camera you want to change - adding five minutes to the first of the selection and then change them all - a two-minute job! Thanks, that seems to have worked properly, once I did it in gallery mode. Alastair On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Experiment a little bit with a copy of the files. I seem to recall that if you pick a range, with the most selected file at the head, and set a specified time for that file, the others will shift by the relative amount that implies. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was shooting with both bodies this weekend, particularly during dance contests when I had the FA31 on one body and the 18-250 on the other. Unfortunately, the clocks in the two cameras were out of sync by 5 minutes, so sorting by capture time almost, but doesn't quite, work right. I don't think so, I wasn't able to find it in the spitzer resnick book, but is there a way to select a group of pictures and say correct the capture time of all of these by 5 minutes? In Lightroom, the Metadata-Edit Capture Time... command should do exactly what you want. Thanks a bunch. If my cameras were exactly five hours out of sync, rather than five minutes, it would do exactly what I want. Unfortunately it seems that I have the choice of changing all of the files to the same time, or by an integer number of hours, not tweaking the files in one camera by five minutes so that a capture time sort works right. There's also an option in the Catalog Preferences, Metadata tab, to write date or time changes into proprietary raw files if you want to punch it directly into the original RAW files too. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Thanks, that seems to have worked properly, once I did it in gallery mode. Great! Glad to help. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was shooting with both bodies this weekend, particularly during dance contests when I had the FA31 on one body and the 18-250 on the other. Unfortunately, the clocks in the two cameras were out of sync by 5 minutes, so sorting by capture time almost, but doesn't quite, work right. I don't think so, I wasn't able to find it in the spitzer resnick book, but is there a way to select a group of pictures and say correct the capture time of all of these by 5 minutes? In Lightroom, the Metadata-Edit Capture Time... command should do exactly what you want. There's also an option in the Catalog Preferences, Metadata tab, to write date or time changes into proprietary raw files if you want to punch it directly into the original RAW files too. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question, synchronizing camera clocks
On Dec 7, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was shooting with both bodies this weekend, particularly during dance contests when I had the FA31 on one body and the 18-250 on the other. Unfortunately, the clocks in the two cameras were out of sync by 5 minutes, so sorting by capture time almost, but doesn't quite, work right. I don't think so, I wasn't able to find it in the spitzer resnick book, but is there a way to select a group of pictures and say correct the capture time of all of these by 5 minutes? In Lightroom, the Metadata-Edit Capture Time... command should do exactly what you want. Thanks a bunch. If my cameras were exactly five hours out of sync, rather than five minutes, it would do exactly what I want. Unfortunately it seems that I have the choice of changing all of the files to the same time, or by an integer number of hours, not tweaking the files in one camera by five minutes so that a capture time sort works right. There's also an option in the Catalog Preferences, Metadata tab, to write date or time changes into proprietary raw files if you want to punch it directly into the original RAW files too. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
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RE: Lightroom question
I don't think it's designed with that sort of approach in mind, and that's not a way that I would recommend to anyone, but... To use a laptop as the day-to-day working catalogue, with offline storage say on a network drive or a separate external drive, I would probably be thinking along these lines: 1. for day-to-day use, import onto the laptop 2. for back-ups archiving, regularly copy the whole lot, pictures, catalogue, everything to 2 external drives 3. at year end, 3.1 delete everything from the laptop except the favourites 3.2 get 2 new external drives to use for backups (otherwise you will overwrite all your non-favourites!) 4. to work on any of the non-favourites, re-import them into the laptop from the archive Bob I think you see the problem now... My paradyme with Photoshop was to keep everything in one catalogue on one machine. Then it changed to move old images off the laptop (or desktop) to free up space for newer pictures. At first, this was easy and I was able to create a Greatest Hits album by copying 40 or 50 favorites for 2008 into a separate folder. This file could remain at hand while the old photos moved off line. In mid 2009, I became dissatisfied with Photoshop Elements 5.0 and decided to move to Lightroom 2. Here the catalogue system is more sophisticated and my paradyme for handling images is breaking down. I can establish a '09 favorites on the catalogue system, but by mid 2010, most '09 RAW images will be moved off line. I will lose access to the pictures without juggling a separate hard disk drive where the images are stored. For a select set of '09 images, I would like to keep the RAW files and sidecar files (or whatever the modifiers are) on the laptop for easy access in 2010. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: What sort of access do you want to those pictures, and when you say 'roll the pictures off', what do you mean - are you moving them from the laptop's internal disk to an external disk and also deleting them from the LR catalogue, or are you keeping them in the catalogue? When you import files into LR it adds an entry for each file into its catalogue. The entry includes a preview of the photograph. You can choose the resolution of the preview. The catalogue entry also includes a pointer to the place on disk where the picture is stored. If you move the file outside of LR to another disk then LR won't be able to find it, but it will still have the catalogue entry and the preview data. You can continue to use this for everything except the Develop module. An option you could consider is to keep the catalogue on the internal disk, but use external disks to store the photographs. Then very year you just use a new external disk. The catalogue retains continuity and if you do need to use the Develop module for any of the photos on disconnected external disks, just reconnect them. Bob Marnie, The problem is not getting them into a lightroom collection. The problem is what happens when I roll the calandar quarter's worth of pictures off of the laptop. I will lose access to all my favorites for that time period. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: OK, Here's a question. In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos. That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up. With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5. The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters. So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around for a long time. Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder? That's what I did in PS Elements. Regards, Bob S. Why not just grab them into a LR collection? That way you don't have to copy them anywhere. They are ready and available in a collection. Uh, how to do that, well, consult Lightroom Help or something. Marnie :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,
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Marnie, The problem is not getting them into a lightroom collection. The problem is what happens when I roll the calandar quarter's worth of pictures off of the laptop. I will lose access to all my favorites for that time period. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: OK, Here's a question. In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos. That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up. With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5. The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters. So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around for a long time. Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder? That's what I did in PS Elements. Regards, Bob S. Why not just grab them into a LR collection? That way you don't have to copy them anywhere. They are ready and available in a collection. Uh, how to do that, well, consult Lightroom Help or something. Marnie :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 10/12/2009 7:24:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Marnie, The problem is not getting them into a lightroom collection. The problem is what happens when I roll the calandar quarter's worth of pictures off of the laptop. I will lose access to all my favorites for that time period. Regards, Bob S. === Additional USB HD (with cases) are very cheap these days. Or you buy the portable case and add a drive. I have one I to back my photographs to and put in a safety deposit box. I am thinking of getting another one and having two rotating back ups going. I also have another one that isn't that portable, external SATA linked HD, that I store most of my photos on. But an USB HD will hook up to both laptop and desktop. Marnie aka Doe :-) And it's possible in LR to have different catalogues for different things, say different drives, though I haven't tried that yet. But it's possible. - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The question is, how do I copy the photos from different libraries, or catalogues, or whatever they're called into a single set? Preferably doing so in such a way that I'm I don't mean to sound rude, but if you don't even know whether you're dealing with libraries or catalogues are you likely to understand any answers you're given? You really need to learn more about Lightroom. You don't need to copy the photos, you just need to create a collection and add the photos to the collection. A collection is just a set of references to the files you imported, it's not a copy of the files. Bob -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: 11 October 2009 21:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom question On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49:54AM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote: On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote: I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed. [snip!] I didn't see a question...? Sorry. The problem with trying to write something when I've been up for 24+ hours: I'd like to collect all of those shots, with the processing data that I've already done, and have a special grouping of them all in one place. I'd rather do this without duplicating the raw files that are already there, though I don't mind if the files of processing instructions (for printing) are different than the current iteration of those files. The question is, how do I copy the photos from different libraries, or catalogues, or whatever they're called into a single set? Preferably doing so in such a way that I'm collecting the lightroom info about each photo, rather than just duplicating the raw files. When I import files, it maintains the directory structure of where each of the photos is, and this may, or may not be a good thing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I wish I could help, but I don't have time to write out what seems to comprise about 70% of the nine-hour Lightroom workshop I teach. This material ... image files in the file system and their relationship to the Lightroom catalog ... seems to be the 95th percentile problem for most people using Lightroom, at least through the first few weeks of use, because they do not understand the fundamentals of a computer file system and how the Lightroom database interacts with it. My next Lightroom workshop is scheduled for November 7-8 ... see the Media Center website at http://www.midpenmedia.org and click on Check out our Classes, then search for Lightroom. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 10/12/2009 2:32:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@web-options.com writes: I don't mean to sound rude, but if you don't even know whether you're dealing with libraries or catalogues are you likely to understand any answers you're given? You really need to learn more about Lightroom. You don't need to copy the photos, you just need to create a collection and add the photos to the collection. A collection is just a set of references to the files you imported, it's not a copy of the files. Bob = Speaking of learning more, I like the book I got just this past weekend. It's probably more book than some people want, but it covers EVERYTHING and is organized well and well written. I find Scott Kelby has good starter books, but they ARE starter books so they leave things out. Usually exactly the things I want to know. But one might start with his Lightroom 2 book. I have only read parts of this one and flipped through it to see what it covers, but so far I would highly recommend it. The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 2 Book by Martin Evening. Once I get through it, or parts of it I should know a lot more than I do now. I've mainly been using Lightroom for cataloguing, but I am now I am intrigued by its Develop module. I also want to know how snapshots work, and how I can do my own presets. All that is explained and more. Seems everything is explained. HTH, whoever, Marnie :-) (Those that live no where near Godfrey. Heh.) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What sort of access do you want to those pictures, and when you say 'roll the pictures off', what do you mean - are you moving them from the laptop's internal disk to an external disk and also deleting them from the LR catalogue, or are you keeping them in the catalogue? When you import files into LR it adds an entry for each file into its catalogue. The entry includes a preview of the photograph. You can choose the resolution of the preview. The catalogue entry also includes a pointer to the place on disk where the picture is stored. If you move the file outside of LR to another disk then LR won't be able to find it, but it will still have the catalogue entry and the preview data. You can continue to use this for everything except the Develop module. An option you could consider is to keep the catalogue on the internal disk, but use external disks to store the photographs. Then very year you just use a new external disk. The catalogue retains continuity and if you do need to use the Develop module for any of the photos on disconnected external disks, just reconnect them. Bob Marnie, The problem is not getting them into a lightroom collection. The problem is what happens when I roll the calandar quarter's worth of pictures off of the laptop. I will lose access to all my favorites for that time period. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: OK, Here's a question. In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos. That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up. With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5. The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters. So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around for a long time. Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder? That's what I did in PS Elements. Regards, Bob S. Why not just grab them into a LR collection? That way you don't have to copy them anywhere. They are ready and available in a collection. Uh, how to do that, well, consult Lightroom Help or something. Marnie :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There's also online training at http://www.kelbytraining.com/ They have 30+ teachers. Most of the course are on PS, but some are on Lightroom. I am impressed they have a online course done by Katrin Eismann Color to Black and White Artistry, but they seem to have some beginning and advanced LR courses too. They now have it set up now at $24.95 a month for all you can take. Since that's pretty cheap, sign up for month, cram in as much as you can. :-) I am thinking about doing it once I get more LR conversant. But I haven't done it yet, so I can't personally recommend it. But overall it looks like a pretty good deal. HTH, too, Marnie :-) (Now that Godfrey won't answer any and all PDML LR questions. We didn't pay him enough. Heh.) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Godfrey, Been thinking about it. You gonna do a traveling show someday? Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: I wish I could help, but I don't have time to write out what seems to comprise about 70% of the nine-hour Lightroom workshop I teach. This material ... image files in the file system and their relationship to the Lightroom catalog ... seems to be the 95th percentile problem for most people using Lightroom, at least through the first few weeks of use, because they do not understand the fundamentals of a computer file system and how the Lightroom database interacts with it. My next Lightroom workshop is scheduled for November 7-8 ... see the Media Center website at http://www.midpenmedia.org and click on Check out our Classes, then search for Lightroom. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Godfrey, Been thinking about it. You gonna do a traveling show someday? If I can find a way for it to pay off, I'd love to. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob, I think you see the problem now... My paradyme with Photoshop was to keep everything in one catalogue on one machine. Then it changed to move old images off the laptop (or desktop) to free up space for newer pictures. At first, this was easy and I was able to create a Greatest Hits album by copying 40 or 50 favorites for 2008 into a separate folder. This file could remain at hand while the old photos moved off line. In mid 2009, I became dissatisfied with Photoshop Elements 5.0 and decided to move to Lightroom 2. Here the catalogue system is more sophisticated and my paradyme for handling images is breaking down. I can establish a '09 favorites on the catalogue system, but by mid 2010, most '09 RAW images will be moved off line. I will lose access to the pictures without juggling a separate hard disk drive where the images are stored. For a select set of '09 images, I would like to keep the RAW files and sidecar files (or whatever the modifiers are) on the laptop for easy access in 2010. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: What sort of access do you want to those pictures, and when you say 'roll the pictures off', what do you mean - are you moving them from the laptop's internal disk to an external disk and also deleting them from the LR catalogue, or are you keeping them in the catalogue? When you import files into LR it adds an entry for each file into its catalogue. The entry includes a preview of the photograph. You can choose the resolution of the preview. The catalogue entry also includes a pointer to the place on disk where the picture is stored. If you move the file outside of LR to another disk then LR won't be able to find it, but it will still have the catalogue entry and the preview data. You can continue to use this for everything except the Develop module. An option you could consider is to keep the catalogue on the internal disk, but use external disks to store the photographs. Then very year you just use a new external disk. The catalogue retains continuity and if you do need to use the Develop module for any of the photos on disconnected external disks, just reconnect them. Bob Marnie, The problem is not getting them into a lightroom collection. The problem is what happens when I roll the calandar quarter's worth of pictures off of the laptop. I will lose access to all my favorites for that time period. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: OK, Here's a question. In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos. That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up. With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5. The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters. So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around for a long time. Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder? That's what I did in PS Elements. Regards, Bob S. Why not just grab them into a LR collection? That way you don't have to copy them anywhere. They are ready and available in a collection. Uh, how to do that, well, consult Lightroom Help or something. Marnie :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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G, My monthly Calumet Photo catalogue lists courses they are offering. They sponsor seminars in their locations at an instore meeting room. See on of their catalogues for seminars in NYC, Boston, Chicago, SF, LA, etc. (You'll need to up your prices.) See if you can make a connection out there and then spread out. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Godfrey, Been thinking about it. You gonna do a traveling show someday? If I can find a way for it to pay off, I'd love to. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So, copy everything to your backup. Select your 2009 images, then the Keepers sub-set of images. Then flip the selection so now you have in your selection all of those which are NOT Keepers. Delete them from the HD from within LR. You are left with your Keepers still on your HD. stan On Oct 12, 2009, at 6:25 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Bob, I think you see the problem now... My paradyme with Photoshop was to keep everything in one catalogue on one machine. Then it changed to move old images off the laptop (or desktop) to free up space for newer pictures. At first, this was easy and I was able to create a Greatest Hits album by copying 40 or 50 favorites for 2008 into a separate folder. This file could remain at hand while the old photos moved off line. In mid 2009, I became dissatisfied with Photoshop Elements 5.0 and decided to move to Lightroom 2. Here the catalogue system is more sophisticated and my paradyme for handling images is breaking down. I can establish a '09 favorites on the catalogue system, but by mid 2010, most '09 RAW images will be moved off line. I will lose access to the pictures without juggling a separate hard disk drive where the images are stored. For a select set of '09 images, I would like to keep the RAW files and sidecar files (or whatever the modifiers are) on the laptop for easy access in 2010. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: What sort of access do you want to those pictures, and when you say 'roll the pictures off', what do you mean - are you moving them from the laptop's internal disk to an external disk and also deleting them from the LR catalogue, or are you keeping them in the catalogue? When you import files into LR it adds an entry for each file into its catalogue. The entry includes a preview of the photograph. You can choose the resolution of the preview. The catalogue entry also includes a pointer to the place on disk where the picture is stored. If you move the file outside of LR to another disk then LR won't be able to find it, but it will still have the catalogue entry and the preview data. You can continue to use this for everything except the Develop module. An option you could consider is to keep the catalogue on the internal disk, but use external disks to store the photographs. Then very year you just use a new external disk. The catalogue retains continuity and if you do need to use the Develop module for any of the photos on disconnected external disks, just reconnect them. Bob Marnie, The problem is not getting them into a lightroom collection. The problem is what happens when I roll the calandar quarter's worth of pictures off of the laptop. I will lose access to all my favorites for that time period. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:43 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: OK, Here's a question. In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos. That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up. With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5. The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters. So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around for a long time. Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder? That's what I did in PS Elements. Regards, Bob S. Why not just grab them into a LR collection? That way you don't have to copy them anywhere. They are ready and available in a collection. Uh, how to do that, well, consult Lightroom Help or something. Marnie :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob, will this work: In Library Module, click on the -/+ by folders and make a new folder. I just did this and I called it 2009 Keepers. Now go through your pics and drag your keepers to the new folder you just made called 2009 Keepers. You will get a dialogue box that says Moving a Photo on a Disk, and then click move. Now you have a folder of 2009 Keepers. Delete the *non-keeper photos,* which are stored on back-up anyway, if I understand you correctly. I don't know if that helps, but I gave it the old one two. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Lightroom question Thanks Paul, I'm looking for a good way to keep the shots or copies up on the laptop after I roll the originals off the laptop and into back=up storage. This keeps me from fumbling around with extra drives all the time. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: Bob - See my answer to Larry - I think that answers your question, too. Adding those files to a Collection just tags them in a database so you're not keeping an additional actual image file. -p Bob Sullivan wrote: OK, Here's a question. In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos. That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up. With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5. The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters. So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around for a long time. Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder? That's what I did in PS Elements. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote: I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed. [snip!] I didn't see a question...? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2428 - Release Date: 10/11/09 06:39:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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or you can pick your favourites - using whatever tool you fancy - 5 star them, use the flag tool, add to a quick collection whatever, then select them all and click export as catalog - specifying the destination. Hey presto, it copies the images along with the metadata. When you want to view them navigate to the folder you stored them in and open the catalog Alastair On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Bob, will this work: In Library Module, click on the -/+ by folders and make a new folder. I just did this and I called it 2009 Keepers. Now go through your pics and drag your keepers to the new folder you just made called 2009 Keepers. You will get a dialogue box that says Moving a Photo on a Disk, and then click move. Now you have a folder of 2009 Keepers. Delete the *non-keeper photos,* which are stored on back-up anyway, if I understand you correctly. I don't know if that helps, but I gave it the old one two. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Lightroom question Thanks Paul, I'm looking for a good way to keep the shots or copies up on the laptop after I roll the originals off the laptop and into back=up storage. This keeps me from fumbling around with extra drives all the time. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: Bob - See my answer to Larry - I think that answers your question, too. Adding those files to a Collection just tags them in a database so you're not keeping an additional actual image file. -p Bob Sullivan wrote: OK, Here's a question. In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos. That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up. With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5. The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters. So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around for a long time. Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder? That's what I did in PS Elements. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote: I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed. [snip!] I didn't see a question...? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2428 - Release Date: 10/11/09 06:39:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote: I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed. [snip!] I didn't see a question...? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
OK, Here's a question. In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos. That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up. With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5. The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters. So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around for a long time. Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder? That's what I did in PS Elements. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote: I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed. [snip!] I didn't see a question...? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry - I think your question is how do I get files printable by a third party from the raw files I've manipulated. Yes?? Here's one way... With Lightroom in library mode - Create a Collection - give it a name that describes the content Find the images you want to get printed and add them to the collection You don't have to add them all at one time - if they're in different folders find the ones in one folder and add them, then move to the next folder you want to use and add them, etc. You can select multiple files in each folder and add them at once. When you have them added to the collection, show the Collection in the Library pane, select the ones you want to send out to be printed and export them as jpg's. Be sure to export them as sRGB's. The export dialogue lets you specify where to put the exported jpg's so now you can navigate there in Windows Explorer and either upload them to your print source or copy them to whatever media you want to use to get them to your third party printer. HTH -p Larry Colen wrote: I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed. The only catch is that I've never printed any of my digital photos. Therefore, it would be wise for me to do a test run and get some of my shots printed. I've collected a list of some of my favorites on flickr. It should be fairly easy to find the files, and even in theory the libraries(?) that they're in. I'd like to collect all of those shots, with the processing data that I've already done, and have a special grouping of them all in one place. I'd rather do this without duplicating the raw files that are already there, though I don't mind if the files of processing instructions (for printing) are different than the current iteration of those files. I could look this stuff up in various lightroom books, but I'm not even sure what to look for. One complication to this whole process is that I've moved my whole directory tree of photos from one drive, to another, at least once. And I believe the catalogue (?) files as well. At one point in my attempt to get my old catalogue, or whatever it's called, I pointed the wrong thing to the wrong place in the directory tree, and messed everything up, so there's weird duplication with something pointing to places that aren't there for various libraries, or catalogues or whatever. I'm not familiar enough with lightroom (yes, I know, I should take Godfrey's class) to know what things I should look up in the index. I've run into problems before because what I think is the intuitively correct name is different than what Adobe thinks is the intuitively correct name. If it helps for pointing. I've got Kelby's Adobe photoshop lightroom book and Resnick and Spritzer's Lightroom Workbook. I may have a couple other books around someplace, but those are the one sitting on my computer at the moment. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2428 - Release Date: 10/11/09 06:39:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
Bob - See my answer to Larry - I think that answers your question, too. Adding those files to a Collection just tags them in a database so you're not keeping an additional actual image file. -p Bob Sullivan wrote: OK, Here's a question. In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos. That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up. With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5. The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters. So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around for a long time. Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder? That's what I did in PS Elements. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote: I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed. [snip!] I didn't see a question...? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2428 - Release Date: 10/11/09 06:39:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
Thanks Paul, I'm looking for a good way to keep the shots or copies up on the laptop after I roll the originals off the laptop and into back=up storage. This keeps me from fumbling around with extra drives all the time. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: Bob - See my answer to Larry - I think that answers your question, too. Adding those files to a Collection just tags them in a database so you're not keeping an additional actual image file. -p Bob Sullivan wrote: OK, Here's a question. In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos. That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up. With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5. The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters. So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around for a long time. Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder? That's what I did in PS Elements. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote: I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed. [snip!] I didn't see a question...? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.9/2428 - Release Date: 10/11/09 06:39:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:49:54AM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote: On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:40, Larry Colen wrote: I've got a job Tuesday night taking photos at a charity event. As part of this job, I'm going to need to get them printed. [snip!] I didn't see a question...? Sorry. The problem with trying to write something when I've been up for 24+ hours: I'd like to collect all of those shots, with the processing data that I've already done, and have a special grouping of them all in one place. I'd rather do this without duplicating the raw files that are already there, though I don't mind if the files of processing instructions (for printing) are different than the current iteration of those files. The question is, how do I copy the photos from different libraries, or catalogues, or whatever they're called into a single set? Preferably doing so in such a way that I'm collecting the lightroom info about each photo, rather than just duplicating the raw files. When I import files, it maintains the directory structure of where each of the photos is, and this may, or may not be a good thing. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
In a message dated 10/11/2009 10:54:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: OK, Here's a question. In Photoshop Elements 5.0 I kept/keep a file of 2008 best and 2009 best photos. That way, I can reference and print them without digging them up. With the K-7, I've shifted to Lightroom 2.5. The laptop quickly fills with new images, and I have to roll off past quarters. So how do I establish a place where I can keep the best of 2009 around for a long time. Do I copy my favorites to a separate folder? That's what I did in PS Elements. Regards, Bob S. Why not just grab them into a LR collection? That way you don't have to copy them anywhere. They are ready and available in a collection. Uh, how to do that, well, consult Lightroom Help or something. Marnie :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question, converting to greyscale
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I went to a new dance venue last night and the blues room was lit with orange rope lights. In short, the red channel is fairly well exposed, but the others are a couple of stops under. As such, there's a lot of noise in the blue and green channels. In lightroom, is there a way to convert to black and white either just using the red channel, or better yet, using the blue and green in such a way that it minimizes the noise? Sure: A: Hit the Grayscale button in the Develop module, then go into the Grayscale Channel Mixer and turn down the blue/green channel sliders, pull up the yellow-orange-red sliders. B: Stay in Color mode, go into the HSL panels ... All ... Set saturation on all channels to -100. Then adjust Luminosity sliders to present the best data. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: lightroom question, converting to greyscale
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I went to a new dance venue last night and the blues room was lit with orange rope lights. In short, the red channel is fairly well exposed, but the others are a couple of stops under. As such, there's a lot of noise in the blue and green channels. In lightroom, is there a way to convert to black and white either just using the red channel, or better yet, using the blue and green in such a way that it minimizes the noise? Sure: A: Hit the Grayscale button in the Develop module, then go into the Grayscale Channel Mixer and turn down the blue/green channel sliders, pull up the yellow-orange-red sliders. B: Stay in Color mode, go into the HSL panels ... All ... Set saturation on all channels to -100. Then adjust Luminosity sliders to present the best data. I use B. :-) Dave -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
Marnie, it is easy. Instead of making a web directory from small images, you can make it from originals. In the parameters of web gallery mode you can find a parameter that sets the size of imported images. Unfortunately I have LR 2.1, thus I cannot show you the screen shot, but it is there and I hope you find this parameter. Once you solve this issue, I suggest you make a web gallery settings preset so that to save your time for the next gallery. HTH. Boris On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I avoid this? What am I missing? TIA, Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 12/7/2008 11:21:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, it is easy. Instead of making a web directory from small images, you can make it from originals. In the parameters of web gallery mode you can find a parameter that sets the size of imported images. Unfortunately I have LR 2.1, thus I cannot show you the screen shot, but it is there and I hope you find this parameter. Once you solve this issue, I suggest you make a web gallery settings preset so that to save your time for the next gallery. HTH. Boris Well, Boris, I thought I WAS making it from the originals. But I'll look around and see if I can find some settings about that. (Actually, I don't know where that setting is, but I'll look around.) That's sounds like it's probably the problem, though. So, thanks. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks for the flattery. In the web module, on the Image tab there is a Size slider which you can use to set the size of the long edge. I always shooot raw and leave it to the web module to resize. I generally go with 900 pixels for 2:3 pictures, and 800 pixels for 4:3. If I remember I set the quality to 50% or lower, otherwise downloads take the better part of infinity for some people. No need for any fancy presets. If I want to stick just a jpeg up I use the export functionality. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 December 2008 18:03 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Lightroom Question I have LR 1. I've TRIED to use it to create a web gallery. But every time I do it resizes my photos. I resize my own photos when I convert them to jpg. I try to make them the size I think is good for viewing (landscape 700-800 mp wide, and portrait 660mp tall max.) that also won't overwhelm older browsers. But it always seems to resize them about to be about 70% of the original size. I figured the next time Bob threw up a gallery (he seems to use it pretty exclusively) I'd take a second look, because I remembered his photos being larger than what LR is giving me. Yup. http://www.web-options.com/Dec7/ (Not the image quality, I'd have difficulty matching that, :-), but the size). When constructing the web gallery in LR I have found a little slider bar on the right that is under Large and is labeled Quality and I bump it up to 100%. But it STILL resizes my photos. How can I avoid this? What am I missing? TIA, Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
The image pages slider under Appearance is the one that controls the final image size. The quality slider just adjusts the amount of .jpg compression. Cheers, Dave 2008/12/8 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have LR 1. I've TRIED to use it to create a web gallery. But every time I do it resizes my photos. I resize my own photos when I convert them to jpg. I try to make them the size I think is good for viewing (landscape 700-800 mp wide, and portrait 660mp tall max.) that also won't overwhelm older browsers. But it always seems to resize them about to be about 70% of the original size. I figured the next time Bob threw up a gallery (he seems to use it pretty exclusively) I'd take a second look, because I remembered his photos being larger than what LR is giving me. Yup. http://www.web-options.com/Dec7/ (Not the image quality, I'd have difficulty matching that, :-), but the size). When constructing the web gallery in LR I have found a little slider bar on the right that is under Large and is labeled Quality and I bump it up to 100%. But it STILL resizes my photos. How can I avoid this? What am I missing? TIA, Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
In a message dated 12/7/2008 1:47:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The image pages slider under Appearance is the one that controls the final image size. The quality slider just adjusts the amount of .jpg compression. Cheers, Dave == Hey, great. I will take a look. Thanks a lot, Dave. Marnie :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom Question
In a message dated 12/7/2008 1:09:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the flattery. In the web module, on the Image tab there is a Size slider which you can use to set the size of the long edge. I always shooot raw and leave it to the web module to resize. I generally go with 900 pixels for 2:3 pictures, and 800 pixels for 4:3. If I remember I set the quality to 50% or lower, otherwise downloads take the better part of infinity for some people. No need for any fancy presets. If I want to stick just a jpeg up I use the export functionality. Bob Aha. Cool. That's very helpful. Thanks. Hmmm, is it flattery when it's true? Oh, well, you're on my hate list anyway, so I should probably just ignore your comment. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
Mark Roberts wrote: All right, this has been driving me bonkers and I can't find an answer... How do I change the default sort order in Lightroom? Every time I import a directory of files it sorts the images by capture time and I have to *manually* change it to sort by file name. What's worse is when I'm in a hurry and forget to do this there doesn't seem to be a way to change groups of directories in one go: I've just spent half an hour going through previously imported directories and correcting the sort order manually - one at a time. It's infuriating and I know there has to be an easier way. I'm not too terribly familiar with Lightroom, having only used it a handful of times, but this looks promising. http://regex.info/Lightroom/Meta/View=Jeffrey -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
Scott Loveless wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: All right, this has been driving me bonkers and I can't find an answer... How do I change the default sort order in Lightroom? Every time I import a directory of files it sorts the images by capture time and I have to *manually* change it to sort by file name. What's worse is when I'm in a hurry and forget to do this there doesn't seem to be a way to change groups of directories in one go: I've just spent half an hour going through previously imported directories and correcting the sort order manually - one at a time. It's infuriating and I know there has to be an easier way. I'm not too terribly familiar with Lightroom, having only used it a handful of times, but this looks promising. http://regex.info/Lightroom/Meta/View=Jeffrey It might help, but I'm not gonna mess with it: a hidden, unsupported feature of these custom templates, which themselves are a hidden, unsupported feature of Lightroom I've done some searching of the Internets and found, to my complete amazement, that there *isn't* any way to change the default sort order in Lightroom! (Well, besides playing with undocumented, hidden, unsupported stuff like the above.) Nor is there a way to change the sort order of more than one directory at a time! Unsurprisingly, there have been a lot of complaints about these issues, particularly the default sort order problem. I'm hoping cough that Adobe has fixed it in Lightroom 2.0, which was released yesterday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Unsurprisingly, there have been a lot of complaints about these issues, I'm quite surprised by that. OK, there should be a way to change the default sort order on import, but until your post I had no idea there wasn't - I've felt no need for anything other than what it does. I do sort collections, but that's after import, and I can't think why I would want to sort all collections in the same way - I definitely want to be in control of the order they show in, and a 'sort all' feature could leave to some very blue language. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 29 July 2008 19:32 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lightroom question Scott Loveless wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: All right, this has been driving me bonkers and I can't find an answer... How do I change the default sort order in Lightroom? Every time I import a directory of files it sorts the images by capture time and I have to *manually* change it to sort by file name. What's worse is when I'm in a hurry and forget to do this there doesn't seem to be a way to change groups of directories in one go: I've just spent half an hour going through previously imported directories and correcting the sort order manually - one at a time. It's infuriating and I know there has to be an easier way. I'm not too terribly familiar with Lightroom, having only used it a handful of times, but this looks promising. http://regex.info/Lightroom/Meta/View=Jeffrey It might help, but I'm not gonna mess with it: a hidden, unsupported feature of these custom templates, which themselves are a hidden, unsupported feature of Lightroom I've done some searching of the Internets and found, to my complete amazement, that there *isn't* any way to change the default sort order in Lightroom! (Well, besides playing with undocumented, hidden, unsupported stuff like the above.) Nor is there a way to change the sort order of more than one directory at a time! Unsurprisingly, there have been a lot of complaints about these issues, particularly the default sort order problem. I'm hoping cough that Adobe has fixed it in Lightroom 2.0, which was released yesterday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom question
Bob W wrote: Unsurprisingly, there have been a lot of complaints about these issues, I'm quite surprised by that. OK, there should be a way to change the default sort order on import, but until your post I had no idea there wasn't - I've felt no need for anything other than what it does. I do sort collections, but that's after import, and I can't think why I would want to sort all collections in the same way - I definitely want to be in control of the order they show in, and a 'sort all' feature could leave to some very blue language. I'm not talking about a sort all feature. I meant the ability to manually select *specific* directories and then apply a sort to just these selected directories with one action. Hardly something one could do by accident (and in fact it's something I'd never do at all if I were allowed to have all imports have my own preferred sort order by default). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have the Beta 2 version here, i'll try a sort on it and see what it does. Dave On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob W wrote: Unsurprisingly, there have been a lot of complaints about these issues, I'm quite surprised by that. OK, there should be a way to change the default sort order on import, but until your post I had no idea there wasn't - I've felt no need for anything other than what it does. I do sort collections, but that's after import, and I can't think why I would want to sort all collections in the same way - I definitely want to be in control of the order they show in, and a 'sort all' feature could leave to some very blue language. I'm not talking about a sort all feature. I meant the ability to manually select *specific* directories and then apply a sort to just these selected directories with one action. Hardly something one could do by accident (and in fact it's something I'd never do at all if I were allowed to have all imports have my own preferred sort order by default). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LightRoom question
Easiest way (Lightroom 1.4.1): - click on the folder or collection of photos you want to search - open the Find panel - click the Text checkbox - set the upper popup to Keywords - set the Rule popup to Are Empty The grid will now show all exposures which have no assigned keywords. Godfrey On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:37 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Here is a simple question which I cannot answer myself: Suppose I have a folder with several photos. Some of the photos has keyword tags associated with them. Some other photos don't have any associated tags. How can I display only the latter? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Got that! Thanks! Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Easiest way (Lightroom 1.4.1): - click on the folder or collection of photos you want to search - open the Find panel - click the Text checkbox - set the upper popup to Keywords - set the Rule popup to Are Empty The grid will now show all exposures which have no assigned keywords. Godfrey On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:37 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Here is a simple question which I cannot answer myself: Suppose I have a folder with several photos. Some of the photos has keyword tags associated with them. Some other photos don't have any associated tags. How can I display only the latter? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 1, 2008, at 16:37, Rick Womer wrote: Thanks, Godders. I found out why it wasn't working--I was clicking on the slide mount in the Grid view, rather than on the image itself. I don't want fingerprints on the images, after all... I was making exactly that same mistake when I started (and maybe for the same reason!) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 1, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I would like to add a photo to an existing Collection. So, I read the f###ing documentation, which says to select the photo in Library Grid mode, and drag it to the desired collection in the Collection Panel. Nifty, except that the photos don't drag anywhere. How is it =really= done? Exactly as they state: Click and drag a thumbnail from the Grid view onto the Collection you want to add it to. If the particular image or copy is already in the Collection you drag it to, Lightroom will not allow you to add it twice. I have no idea why it would not work on your system. Perhaps you're not giving Lightroom that momentary pause required for it to know that you've clicked and dragged the image? I find this happens to me occasionally. An alternative is to select the thumbnails in either the Library grid view or the Film Strip panel and control-click on the Collection you want to add them to. Pick the Add Selected Photos To This Collection command ... Lightroom will add them as requested. A nice touch ... if you have a folder or collection selected in grid view and hover the mouse over a Collection, Lightroom will highlight all the files from the current location that are already included in the collection you are hovering over. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Godders. I found out why it wasn't working--I was clicking on the slide mount in the Grid view, rather than on the image itself. I don't want fingerprints on the images, after all... Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 1, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I would like to add a photo to an existing Collection. So, I read the f###ing documentation, which says to select the photo in Library Grid mode, and drag it to the desired collection in the Collection Panel. Nifty, except that the photos don't drag anywhere. How is it =really= done? Exactly as they state: Click and drag a thumbnail from the Grid view onto the Collection you want to add it to. If the particular image or copy is already in the Collection you drag it to, Lightroom will not allow you to add it twice. I have no idea why it would not work on your system. Perhaps you're not giving Lightroom that momentary pause required for it to know that you've clicked and dragged the image? I find this happens to me occasionally. An alternative is to select the thumbnails in either the Library grid view or the Film Strip panel and control-click on the Collection you want to add them to. Pick the Add Selected Photos To This Collection command ... Lightroom will add them as requested. A nice touch ... if you have a folder or collection selected in grid view and hover the mouse over a Collection, Lightroom will highlight all the files from the current location that are already included in the collection you are hovering over. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom: Question about Clarity
Thanks, Adam. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 12:37 AM Subject: Re: Lightroom: Question about Clarity Clarity is more like sharpening for the mid-tones only, it increases edge contrast rather than overall contrast (And Vibrancy does much the same for midtone saturation). -Adam On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Tim. So increasing the contrast in-camera (record mode) wouldn't help with midtone clarity then? Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Lightroom: Question about Clarity Clarity adds contrast in the midtones. Nothing magic about that. So you don't need to worry about in camera settings and exposure. It simply makes the picture pop a bit more. Some times I use it as a semi sharpening tool. MaritimTim 2008/4/12, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone: I have lack-of-clarity about Lightroom's Clarity function. This is from Help: Clarity: Adds depth to an image by increasing local contrast. I don't have an understanding of local contrast. What does local contrast mean? What is added depth? Also, I seem to like the photo better when greatly increasing the clarity slider. Fine. But what's NOT happening in-camera (for example, do I need to be making smarter exposure decisions etc) that requires me to add depth by way of increased local contrast during processing? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom: Question about Clarity
Christine - I don't think you can duplicate the clarity function in the camera. It is applying sharpening to the mid-tones. That's an oversimplification. Here are the details. http://www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2007/07/lightroom_11_the_clarity_tool_1.html I've read in several articles that finding a name for the tool was difficult. At one time it was called punch. GS http://georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom: Question about Clarity
Clarity adds contrast in the midtones. Nothing magic about that. So you don't need to worry about in camera settings and exposure. It simply makes the picture pop a bit more. Some times I use it as a semi sharpening tool. MaritimTim 2008/4/12, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Everyone: I have lack-of-clarity about Lightroom's Clarity function. This is from Help: Clarity: Adds depth to an image by increasing local contrast. I don't have an understanding of local contrast. What does local contrast mean? What is added depth? Also, I seem to like the photo better when greatly increasing the clarity slider. Fine. But what's NOT happening in-camera (for example, do I need to be making smarter exposure decisions etc) that requires me to add depth by way of increased local contrast during processing? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom: Question about Clarity
Several good responses, re, Clarity. They are all correct, it adds mid tone contrast or punch. I have a routine when developing in LR, and basically it it top to bottom. Do the color balance first, then exposure, etc.. Sometimes if my exposure is only a little on the low side, ie, less than 1/2 stop, and especially a contrasty scene, I will add brightness as it doesn't add exposure to the highlights. I will normally add a little contrast, but only 5 to 15 points. Then I add Clarity, usually 50 to 60. I seldom add Vibrance or Saturation, but on really brilliant colors I will lessen Satutation 5 points or less. To me this lessens and harsness to my eye. I use Recovery and Fill Light only when I have to to bring in details that I think are important. If overdone your contrast will fall out the bottom. On my K10 I usually sharpen to 80~85 at 0.7 pixels. Once I open the image into PSE 6 or go to Print Module I only size and set up to print. Hope this helps a little :-) Walt On 4/11/08, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone: I have lack-of-clarity about Lightroom's Clarity function. This is from Help: Clarity: Adds depth to an image by increasing local contrast. I don't have an understanding of local contrast. What does local contrast mean? What is added depth? Also, I seem to like the photo better when greatly increasing the clarity slider. Fine. But what's NOT happening in-camera (for example, do I need to be making smarter exposure decisions etc) that requires me to add depth by way of increased local contrast during processing? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom: Question about Clarity
Hi George: Big thanks for the article link. I haven't read it yet, but will do. I kind of like punch better; I might have been able to draw a better inference with that one. ;-). Thanks again. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Lightroom: Question about Clarity Christine - I don't think you can duplicate the clarity function in the camera. It is applying sharpening to the mid-tones. That's an oversimplification. Here are the details. http://www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2007/07/lightroom_11_the_clarity_tool_1.html I've read in several articles that finding a name for the tool was difficult. At one time it was called punch. GS http://georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
