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Sorry to hear that, Walter. I hope it works out for the better for you and without delays. Boris On 10/28/2010 5:07 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Normally, I'm much better about replying in a timely manner to responses to the threads I start on the list than I was yesterday. Well, there's a reason it took me a little longer. While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Unfortunately, this is the only car I have, and my insurance isn't going to cover the loss. So, now, I'm stuck trying to figure out a way to get around ... with no money, and only a part-time job. Needless to say, I'm living in interesting times. Anybody know of any photography contests where they give away cars? Or nice bicycles? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Paul. I'm not sure it'd be worth the hassle. I've talked to Chrysler a few times and everyone I've spoken to doesn't seem too concerned with customer satisfaction. Of course, I haven't told any of them that the media were on hand and captured it in video, or that I have it in pictures. Maybe that would light a fire under 'em as it were. ;-) -- Walt On 10/28/2010 6:57 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Sorry to hear of your loss, Walter. If you have any thoughts of seeking relief from the manufacturer or through the courts, you have to make sure the car isn't scrapped. It's a closed case without physical evidence. Paul On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:59 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/10/28 Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com: Thank you, Ecke! I ran a VIN search, and found out there's a flaw in the design of the power steering assist hose on my car -- which stands to reason, as I'd noticed the past few times I'd driven it that there was a slight whine whenever I made a hard turn. Recall ID 06V001000 you mean, yeah that and the one I mentioned before also applies to your model year. Hopefully some of that booze money can be converted into a down payment for your lawyer ]=) Wishing you all the best of luck, man! Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think you should go after them on general principle. Ecke 2010/10/29 Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com: Thanks, Paul. I'm not sure it'd be worth the hassle. I've talked to Chrysler a few times and everyone I've spoken to doesn't seem too concerned with customer satisfaction. Of course, I haven't told any of them that the media were on hand and captured it in video, or that I have it in pictures. Maybe that would light a fire under 'em as it were. ;-) -- Walt On 10/28/2010 6:57 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Sorry to hear of your loss, Walter. If you have any thoughts of seeking relief from the manufacturer or through the courts, you have to make sure the car isn't scrapped. It's a closed case without physical evidence. Paul On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:59 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/10/28 Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com: Thank you, Ecke! I ran a VIN search, and found out there's a flaw in the design of the power steering assist hose on my car -- which stands to reason, as I'd noticed the past few times I'd driven it that there was a slight whine whenever I made a hard turn. Recall ID 06V001000 you mean, yeah that and the one I mentioned before also applies to your model year. Hopefully some of that booze money can be converted into a down payment for your lawyer ]=) Wishing you all the best of luck, man! Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Bran. Or maybe Consumer Reports. ;-) I just figured I was powerless to put out the fire, so I turned to the only thing I knew. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 5:35 PM, Bran Everseeking wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:07:46 -0500 Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Nice pictures. I would have been unlikely to hold a camera in the same circumstances. maybe a car mag would like those... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Why, the Ford Agency, of course. On 10/28/2010 5:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Who is the advertising agency for Ford? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Ken, Actually, that car has never been in the shop since I've owned it, except to have new brakes put on. It was over 100,000 miles without a hitch. And I am not the biggest stickler when it comes to vehicle maintenance. I'm not sure if this is going to be worth pursuing -- though the existence of media footage and photos might be enough to tweak the conscience of a bean-counting corporate lawyer. I'll have to call around to some more attorneys to see if there's anyone willing to take the case. There just aren't a whole lot of them in my area, and the one I think most likely to take the case is -- well, let's just say there's some bad blood between us. I once worked for him, and the split wasn't amicable. I'll weigh my options. I doubt they'll be doing anything to the car in the next couple of days. Thanks for the advice. I'll keep you posted as events warrant. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 7:39 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Just when things were going well... Thank you, Ecke! I ran a VIN search, and found out there's a flaw in the design of the power steering assist hose on my car -- which stands to reason, as I'd noticed the past few times I'd driven it that there was a slight whine whenever I made a hard turn. http://is.gd/gp67C Apparently, it's known to cause underhood fires like the one I had. Now, it's a matter of finding what to do about it. I called an attorney friend of mine, but he doesn't work in that are of the law. So, I need to do a bit more research to find out where to go next. Was any repair done to the car recently? Are you the original owner? Did you receive a recall notice? Take your Vehicle Identification Number to a Chrysler dealer and get copies of any recall notices. If you're going to pursue this you need to preserve the remains. Ideally, you should have a vehicle fire expert examine the vehicle, this will cost $100 to 250/hour. Photograph the underhood remains. Do nut disturb the evidence. It sounds like you may have a case here given the recalls on the car. Be advised that without a vehicle for the manufacturer to examine, you have a tough road to hoe and in any event it will take time and effort on your part to see any return on your effort. If you pursue this legally, get a lawyer that handles product liability, ideally one who has handled identical cases, a web search should help you find one. Good luck, I hope it pans out for you. Thanks again. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 2:47 PM, eckinator wrote: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/1999/plymouth/breeze/recalls/index.html recall number 09E043000 THIS CONDITION MAY RESULT IN A VEHICLE FIRE. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Boris. It'll all work out, one way or another. I'm not going to dwell on it for a long time. -- Walt On 10/29/2010 5:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Sorry to hear that, Walter. I hope it works out for the better for you and without delays. Boris On 10/28/2010 5:07 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Normally, I'm much better about replying in a timely manner to responses to the threads I start on the list than I was yesterday. Well, there's a reason it took me a little longer. While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Unfortunately, this is the only car I have, and my insurance isn't going to cover the loss. So, now, I'm stuck trying to figure out a way to get around ... with no money, and only a part-time job. Needless to say, I'm living in interesting times. Anybody know of any photography contests where they give away cars? Or nice bicycles? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Thanks, Paul. I'm not sure it'd be worth the hassle. I've talked to Chrysler a few times and everyone I've spoken to doesn't seem too concerned with customer satisfaction. Of course, I haven't told any of them that the media were on hand and captured it in video, or that I have it in pictures. Maybe that would light a fire under 'em as it were. ;-) -- Walt The pictures won't make a difference. Neon and Plymouth have both been gone for a long time. No one cares. The only thing that might help would be a history of problems with whatever it was that caused the fire, and, better yet, a history of settlements. Paul On 10/28/2010 6:57 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Sorry to hear of your loss, Walter. If you have any thoughts of seeking relief from the manufacturer or through the courts, you have to make sure the car isn't scrapped. It's a closed case without physical evidence. Paul On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:59 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/10/28 Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com: Thank you, Ecke! I ran a VIN search, and found out there's a flaw in the design of the power steering assist hose on my car -- which stands to reason, as I'd noticed the past few times I'd driven it that there was a slight whine whenever I made a hard turn. Recall ID 06V001000 you mean, yeah that and the one I mentioned before also applies to your model year. Hopefully some of that booze money can be converted into a down payment for your lawyer ]=) Wishing you all the best of luck, man! Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/10/29 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: The pictures won't make a difference. Neon and Plymouth have both been gone for a long time. No one cares. were they actual companies that got done away with or just brands? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Plymouth was a Chrysler Corporation brand, Neon was a model. Both have passed from consciousness. No one would spend money defending their honor, nor would anyone spend money besmirching them. Paul On Oct 29, 2010, at 11:10 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/10/29 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: The pictures won't make a difference. Neon and Plymouth have both been gone for a long time. No one cares. were they actual companies that got done away with or just brands? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Larry. My brother's a professional mechanic, and when he looked at it, he just said, Yep. It's pretty much totaled. Bummer, sorry to hear that. So, I had the car hauled off for scrap today. Which wasn't a total loss in that I got $200 for the dead weight of the thing. That'll buy me some booze. You can buy a lot more booze in the US for $200 than you can here. Just a cheer up thought. Dave -- Walt On 10/28/2010 1:45 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Without seeing the damage it is hard to tell, but it is possible that you could just replace a few damaged components and get your car working again. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Just when things were going well... Thanks, Paul. I'm not sure it'd be worth the hassle. I've talked to Chrysler a few times and everyone I've spoken to doesn't seem too concerned with customer satisfaction. Of course, I haven't told any of them that the media were on hand and captured it in video, or that I have it in pictures. Maybe that would light a fire under 'em as it were. ;-) Having photos of the fire only prove there was a fire. Basically useless. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 6:57 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Sorry to hear of your loss, Walter. If you have any thoughts of seeking relief from the manufacturer or through the courts, you have to make sure the car isn't scrapped. It's a closed case without physical evidence. Paul On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:59 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/10/28 Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com: Thank you, Ecke! I ran a VIN search, and found out there's a flaw in the design of the power steering assist hose on my car -- which stands to reason, as I'd noticed the past few times I'd driven it that there was a slight whine whenever I made a hard turn. Recall ID 06V001000 you mean, yeah that and the one I mentioned before also applies to your model year. Hopefully some of that booze money can be converted into a down payment for your lawyer ]=) Wishing you all the best of luck, man! Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: eckinator 2010/10/29 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: The pictures won't make a difference. Neon and Plymouth have both been gone for a long time. No one cares. were they actual companies that got done away with or just brands? Plymouth was an actual company that got shut down in Chrysler's bankruptcy reorganization. Neon was a Plymouth model line. I don't want to be a downer, but I don't think Walt's going to be able to collect anything from Chrysler. I think it was mentioned it was a 1999 model? If so, that's a 10+ year old car with 100,000 miles on the clock, and Walt says it's never been in the shop. I'm guessing he means he never had to have repair work done on it; that he did have routine maintenance done. Still, I'd be willing to bet it's well out of warranty and never been in the shop would include never having it in to have the power steering hose defect corrected under recall, which the manufacturer's lawyer could argue makes Walt equally responsible. Even if he prevailed, he wouldn't collect more than fair market replacement value, and that's only about $750 - $1500. The lawyer would charge more than that. It sucks, but about the best Walt's going to be able to do is claim the loss on his income taxes. If it was me, I'd be looking for what $1000 or less could get me on Craigslist. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/10/29 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Still, I'd be willing to bet it's well out of warranty and never been in the shop would include never having it in to have the power steering hose defect corrected under recall, which the manufacturer's lawyer could argue makes Walt equally responsible. Even if he prevailed, he wouldn't collect more than fair market replacement value, and that's only about $750 - $1500. The lawyer would charge more than that. It sucks, but about the best Walt's going to be able to do is claim the loss on his income taxes. If it was me, I'd be looking for what $1000 or less could get me on Craigslist. you're probably right and Walt seems to look at it the same way. morally though he should be reimbursed somehow. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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How do you feel about scooters? On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:48 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/10/29 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Still, I'd be willing to bet it's well out of warranty and never been in the shop would include never having it in to have the power steering hose defect corrected under recall, which the manufacturer's lawyer could argue makes Walt equally responsible. Even if he prevailed, he wouldn't collect more than fair market replacement value, and that's only about $750 - $1500. The lawyer would charge more than that. It sucks, but about the best Walt's going to be able to do is claim the loss on his income taxes. If it was me, I'd be looking for what $1000 or less could get me on Craigslist. you're probably right and Walt seems to look at it the same way. morally though he should be reimbursed somehow. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: eckinator 2010/10/29 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Still, I'd be willing to bet it's well out of warranty and never been in the shop would include never having it in to have the power steering hose defect corrected under recall, which the manufacturer's lawyer could argue makes Walt equally responsible. Even if he prevailed, he wouldn't collect more than fair market replacement value, and that's only about $750 - $1500. The lawyer would charge more than that. It sucks, but about the best Walt's going to be able to do is claim the loss on his income taxes. If it was me, I'd be looking for what $1000 or less could get me on Craigslist. you're probably right and Walt seems to look at it the same way. morally though he should be reimbursed somehow. Morally he should be reimbursed by *whom*? If someone is at fault in this, I can't see who it is? And if no one is at fault, then who exactly owes Walt for the damage to his car? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/10/29 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Morally he should be reimbursed by *whom*? If someone is at fault in this, I can't see who it is? And if no one is at fault, then who exactly owes Walt for the damage to his car? see, there's your difference between 'morally' and 'logically' - by gut feeling, i.e. 'morally' it just isn't fair that Plymouth should get away with building a car that catches fire, recall or not, maintenance or not. Cars aren't supposed to be built that way, period. 'logically'... well first of all it is a cultural thing - what is considered fair in one society may not be in another and then the rest is probably a matter for experts, lawyers and judges to decide. Personally, I do fail to understand how the maker of the part that failed and caused the fire could NOT be at fault. How is that? Thanks Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Just when things were going well... 2010/10/29 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Morally he should be reimbursed by *whom*? If someone is at fault in this, I can't see who it is? And if no one is at fault, then who exactly owes Walt for the damage to his car? see, there's your difference between 'morally' and 'logically' - by gut feeling, i.e. 'morally' it just isn't fair that Plymouth should get away with building a car that catches fire, recall or not, maintenance or not. Cars aren't supposed to be built that way, period. 'logically'... well first of all it is a cultural thing - what is considered fair in one society may not be in another and then the rest is probably a matter for experts, lawyers and judges to decide. Personally, I do fail to understand how the maker of the part that failed and caused the fire could NOT be at fault. How is that? And your proof is?? Thanks Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/10/30 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: And your proof is?? obviously not there. you're right. I'll let it go. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That presupposes that the existence of said proof would matter. In this case, it doesn't. So, in the end, the moral question is moot, just as the logical one is. -- Walt On 10/29/2010 5:37 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Just when things were going well... 2010/10/29 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Morally he should be reimbursed by *whom*? If someone is at fault in this, I can't see who it is? And if no one is at fault, then who exactly owes Walt for the damage to his car? see, there's your difference between 'morally' and 'logically' - by gut feeling, i.e. 'morally' it just isn't fair that Plymouth should get away with building a car that catches fire, recall or not, maintenance or not. Cars aren't supposed to be built that way, period. 'logically'... well first of all it is a cultural thing - what is considered fair in one society may not be in another and then the rest is probably a matter for experts, lawyers and judges to decide. Personally, I do fail to understand how the maker of the part that failed and caused the fire could NOT be at fault. How is that? And your proof is?? Thanks Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: eckinator 2010/10/29 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Morally he should be reimbursed by *whom*? If someone is at fault in this, I can't see who it is? And if no one is at fault, then who exactly owes Walt for the damage to his car? see, there's your difference between 'morally' and 'logically' - by gut feeling, i.e. 'morally' it just isn't fair that Plymouth should get away with building a car that catches fire, recall or not, maintenance or not. Cars aren't supposed to be built that way, period. 'logically'... well first of all it is a cultural thing - what is considered fair in one society may not be in another and then the rest is probably a matter for experts, lawyers and judges to decide. Personally, I do fail to understand how the maker of the part that failed and caused the fire could NOT be at fault. How is that? Thanks Ecke Parts wear out. Old cars die. The vehicle lasted at 7 years beyond the warranty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You need to switch genres to street photography, with images of people taking the bus and walking. Jeffery On Oct 28, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Normally, I'm much better about replying in a timely manner to responses to the threads I start on the list than I was yesterday. Well, there's a reason it took me a little longer. While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Unfortunately, this is the only car I have, and my insurance isn't going to cover the loss. So, now, I'm stuck trying to figure out a way to get around ... with no money, and only a part-time job. Needless to say, I'm living in interesting times. Anybody know of any photography contests where they give away cars? Or nice bicycles? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Wow. I'm sorry for your loss. If your insurance won't cover it because they say it was a mechanical defect, I would suggest seeking compensation from the manufacturer. If you have a local TV station that has a consumer-protection segment, you could try to get them involved. I'm sure they would appreciate your nice clear photographs of the incident. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You did get some nice pictures. How did the fire start? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Wow. I'm sorry for your loss. If your insurance won't cover it because they say it was a mechanical defect, I would suggest seeking compensation from the manufacturer. If you have a local TV station that has a consumer-protection segment, you could try to get them involved. I'm sure they would appreciate your nice clear photographs of the incident. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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HA! Unfortunately, that's not feasible where I live, which is a town with a population of roughly 350. I'd starve to death between shots. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 10:15 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: You need to switch genres to street photography, with images of people taking the bus and walking. Jeffery On Oct 28, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Normally, I'm much better about replying in a timely manner to responses to the threads I start on the list than I was yesterday. Well, there's a reason it took me a little longer. While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Unfortunately, this is the only car I have, and my insurance isn't going to cover the loss. So, now, I'm stuck trying to figure out a way to get around ... with no money, and only a part-time job. Needless to say, I'm living in interesting times. Anybody know of any photography contests where they give away cars? Or nice bicycles? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Matthew. Unfortunately, the local media were on-hand for the event. So, they've got all the pictures and footage they need. Just my luck, huh? I'm going to check up on any kind of possibly related recalls, though. Maybe there's something there. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 10:17 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Wow. I'm sorry for your loss. If your insurance won't cover it because they say it was a mechanical defect, I would suggest seeking compensation from the manufacturer. If you have a local TV station that has a consumer-protection segment, you could try to get them involved. I'm sure they would appreciate your nice clear photographs of the incident. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm not sure how it started. I suspect it was something electrical, though there's no way of knowing for sure. I did notice a little smoke coming from under the hood when I got out of the car, but figured it was just some oil burning off the manifold from when I put a little in it a few days before. I thought it was odd and figured the oil would have burned off already by then, but didn't give it a whole lot of thought. Turns out I was right. It was odd. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 10:18 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: You did get some nice pictures. How did the fire start? On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Matthew Huntm...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Wow. I'm sorry for your loss. If your insurance won't cover it because they say it was a mechanical defect, I would suggest seeking compensation from the manufacturer. If you have a local TV station that has a consumer-protection segment, you could try to get them involved. I'm sure they would appreciate your nice clear photographs of the incident. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Just when things were going well... Thanks, Matthew. Unfortunately, the local media were on-hand for the event. So, they've got all the pictures and footage they need. Just my luck, huh? I'm going to check up on any kind of possibly related recalls, though. Maybe there's something there. HTH - http://www.nhtsa.gov/ -- Walt On 10/28/2010 10:17 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Wow. I'm sorry for your loss. If your insurance won't cover it because they say it was a mechanical defect, I would suggest seeking compensation from the manufacturer. If you have a local TV station that has a consumer-protection segment, you could try to get them involved. I'm sure they would appreciate your nice clear photographs of the incident. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Normally, I'm much better about replying in a timely manner to responses to the threads I start on the list than I was yesterday. Well, there's a reason it took me a little longer. While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Ouch. Unfortunately, this is the only car I have, and my insurance isn't going to cover the loss. So, now, I'm stuck trying to figure out a way to get around ... with no money, and only a part-time job. Needless to say, I'm living in interesting times. Without seeing the damage it is hard to tell, but it is possible that you could just replace a few damaged components and get your car working again. The bad news is that the damaged components are probably the wiring harness and the plastic induction system. The induction system isn't too difficult, but replacing a wiring harness could be a major pain in the ass. You may want to start looking around for cars like yours that have been totalled in a wreck, but which their wiring harness survived unscathed. Anybody know of any photography contests where they give away cars? Or nice bicycles? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Damn... I am so sorry Walt. Glad you weren't inside... I did a quick search and your problem doesn't seem to be a first. Look here: http://www.allworldauto.com/comments/plymouth_breeze_comments_and_complaints_132-1868-1.html http://www.aboutautomobile.com/Complaint/1999/Plymouth/Breeze/Electrical+System http://www.arfc.org/complaints/1998/plymouth/breeze/electrical_system/problem.aspx and here's one specific recall on this page: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/1999/plymouth/breeze/recalls/index.html recall number 09E043000 THIS CONDITION MAY RESULT IN A VEHICLE FIRE. see also here for details http://www.automotive.com/1999/49/plymouth/breeze/recalls/61098.html Hope this helps Ecke 2010/10/28 Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com: Hi all, Normally, I'm much better about replying in a timely manner to responses to the threads I start on the list than I was yesterday. Well, there's a reason it took me a little longer. While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Unfortunately, this is the only car I have, and my insurance isn't going to cover the loss. So, now, I'm stuck trying to figure out a way to get around ... with no money, and only a part-time job. Needless to say, I'm living in interesting times. Anybody know of any photography contests where they give away cars? Or nice bicycles? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Aw man, that sucks! I hope you find a way to get money to fix it, or a new car (none of which paid by you). --M. On 28 October 2010 11:07, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Normally, I'm much better about replying in a timely manner to responses to the threads I start on the list than I was yesterday. Well, there's a reason it took me a little longer. While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Unfortunately, this is the only car I have, and my insurance isn't going to cover the loss. So, now, I'm stuck trying to figure out a way to get around ... with no money, and only a part-time job. Needless to say, I'm living in interesting times. Anybody know of any photography contests where they give away cars? Or nice bicycles? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Ken. Any little bit of information helps. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 1:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Just when things were going well... Thanks, Matthew. Unfortunately, the local media were on-hand for the event. So, they've got all the pictures and footage they need. Just my luck, huh? I'm going to check up on any kind of possibly related recalls, though. Maybe there's something there. HTH - http://www.nhtsa.gov/ -- Walt On 10/28/2010 10:17 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Wow. I'm sorry for your loss. If your insurance won't cover it because they say it was a mechanical defect, I would suggest seeking compensation from the manufacturer. If you have a local TV station that has a consumer-protection segment, you could try to get them involved. I'm sure they would appreciate your nice clear photographs of the incident. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Larry. My brother's a professional mechanic, and when he looked at it, he just said, Yep. It's pretty much totaled. So, I had the car hauled off for scrap today. Which wasn't a total loss in that I got $200 for the dead weight of the thing. That'll buy me some booze. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 1:45 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Without seeing the damage it is hard to tell, but it is possible that you could just replace a few damaged components and get your car working again. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Ecke! I ran a VIN search, and found out there's a flaw in the design of the power steering assist hose on my car -- which stands to reason, as I'd noticed the past few times I'd driven it that there was a slight whine whenever I made a hard turn. http://is.gd/gp67C Apparently, it's known to cause underhood fires like the one I had. Now, it's a matter of finding what to do about it. I called an attorney friend of mine, but he doesn't work in that are of the law. So, I need to do a bit more research to find out where to go next. Thanks again. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 2:47 PM, eckinator wrote: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/1999/plymouth/breeze/recalls/index.html recall number 09E043000 THIS CONDITION MAY RESULT IN A VEHICLE FIRE. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Mis. That would certainly be a big help. I'll figure out something eventually. It's the meantime that's going to be the challenge. :-) -- Walt On 10/28/2010 2:52 PM, Miserere wrote: Aw man, that sucks! I hope you find a way to get money to fix it, or a new car (none of which paid by you). --M. On 28 October 2010 11:07, Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Normally, I'm much better about replying in a timely manner to responses to the threads I start on the list than I was yesterday. Well, there's a reason it took me a little longer. While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Unfortunately, this is the only car I have, and my insurance isn't going to cover the loss. So, now, I'm stuck trying to figure out a way to get around ... with no money, and only a part-time job. Needless to say, I'm living in interesting times. Anybody know of any photography contests where they give away cars? Or nice bicycles? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-10-28 16:37, Walter Gilbert wrote: Now, it's a matter of finding what to do about it. I called an attorney friend of mine, but he doesn't work in that are of the law. So, I need to do a bit more research to find out where to go next. You could do a Google search for something like product liability attorney plus the year, make, and model of the vehicle, plus, if there is one and you have it, the NHTSA notice for the defect. Sometimes, just having the NHTSA notice number in hand and calling the manufacturer's regional rep is enough to get them to act. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/10/28 Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com: So, I had the car hauled off for scrap today. Which wasn't a total loss in that I got $200 for the dead weight of the thing. That'll buy me some booze. Walt, perhaps you should call the place again and ask them to leave the car unharmed for now in case it needs to be accessed to secure evidence. Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That sux. But on the bright side at least you weren't in the car when it caught fire (I've been ... it ain't fun!) and no one was injured. The rest of it ... eh? Things Happen. We have to cope with it. I've had so much crap just happen the past few years it's been a struggle, but with courage you survive and move on. Good luck, keep your head up. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Normally, I'm much better about replying in a timely manner to responses to the threads I start on the list than I was yesterday. Well, there's a reason it took me a little longer. While I was out taking pictures at a political rally, an announcement came over the public address system saying, If there's an owner of a red Plymouth here, your car is on fire. It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Unfortunately, this is the only car I have, and my insurance isn't going to cover the loss. So, now, I'm stuck trying to figure out a way to get around ... with no money, and only a part-time job. Needless to say, I'm living in interesting times. Anybody know of any photography contests where they give away cars? Or nice bicycles? -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/10/28 Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com: Thank you, Ecke! I ran a VIN search, and found out there's a flaw in the design of the power steering assist hose on my car -- which stands to reason, as I'd noticed the past few times I'd driven it that there was a slight whine whenever I made a hard turn. Recall ID 06V001000 you mean, yeah that and the one I mentioned before also applies to your model year. Hopefully some of that booze money can be converted into a down payment for your lawyer ]=) Wishing you all the best of luck, man! Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Ecke. I can probably get an attorney to take the case on a contingency basis, if there's anything to it. I've called Chrysler a few times -- most recently after having spoken with the local dealership they put me in contact with and finding them less than helpful and informative. They're supposed to have a case manage give me a call within 48 hours (I suspect that'll be Monday). I'll just have to see what develops from there. Here's hoping for the best. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 3:59 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/10/28 Walter Gilbertldott...@gmail.com: Thank you, Ecke! I ran a VIN search, and found out there's a flaw in the design of the power steering assist hose on my car -- which stands to reason, as I'd noticed the past few times I'd driven it that there was a slight whine whenever I made a hard turn. Recall ID 06V001000 you mean, yeah that and the one I mentioned before also applies to your model year. Hopefully some of that booze money can be converted into a down payment for your lawyer ]=) Wishing you all the best of luck, man! Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:07:46 -0500 Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Nice pictures. I would have been unlikely to hold a camera in the same circumstances. maybe a car mag would like those... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Oct 28, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Bran Everseeking wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 10:07:46 -0500 Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: It instantly occurred to me that owner of a red Plymouth is a pretty accurate description of me. Lo and behold ... http://picasaweb.google.com/Ldotters/BurninBreeze?feat=directlink Nice pictures. I would have been unlikely to hold a camera in the same circumstances. maybe a car mag would like those... Who is the advertising agency for Ford? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sorry to hear of your loss, Walter. If you have any thoughts of seeking relief from the manufacturer or through the courts, you have to make sure the car isn't scrapped. It's a closed case without physical evidence. Paul On Oct 28, 2010, at 4:59 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/10/28 Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com: Thank you, Ecke! I ran a VIN search, and found out there's a flaw in the design of the power steering assist hose on my car -- which stands to reason, as I'd noticed the past few times I'd driven it that there was a slight whine whenever I made a hard turn. Recall ID 06V001000 you mean, yeah that and the one I mentioned before also applies to your model year. Hopefully some of that booze money can be converted into a down payment for your lawyer ]=) Wishing you all the best of luck, man! Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Walter Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Just when things were going well... Thank you, Ecke! I ran a VIN search, and found out there's a flaw in the design of the power steering assist hose on my car -- which stands to reason, as I'd noticed the past few times I'd driven it that there was a slight whine whenever I made a hard turn. http://is.gd/gp67C Apparently, it's known to cause underhood fires like the one I had. Now, it's a matter of finding what to do about it. I called an attorney friend of mine, but he doesn't work in that are of the law. So, I need to do a bit more research to find out where to go next. Was any repair done to the car recently? Are you the original owner? Did you receive a recall notice? Take your Vehicle Identification Number to a Chrysler dealer and get copies of any recall notices. If you're going to pursue this you need to preserve the remains. Ideally, you should have a vehicle fire expert examine the vehicle, this will cost $100 to 250/hour. Photograph the underhood remains. Do nut disturb the evidence. It sounds like you may have a case here given the recalls on the car. Be advised that without a vehicle for the manufacturer to examine, you have a tough road to hoe and in any event it will take time and effort on your part to see any return on your effort. If you pursue this legally, get a lawyer that handles product liability, ideally one who has handled identical cases, a web search should help you find one. Good luck, I hope it pans out for you. Thanks again. -- Walt On 10/28/2010 2:47 PM, eckinator wrote: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/1999/plymouth/breeze/recalls/index.html recall number 09E043000 THIS CONDITION MAY RESULT IN A VEHICLE FIRE. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
