Re: [NF] Queries re: Python & Such...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

No - Ed, you got me wrong!

I am NOT at ALL against sharing code and giving it away for free! But, 
he posted on a forum that is NOT Specific to programmers. And, for 3D 
Printing folks - if you don't already do programming - getting that 
code, by itself is no good! Since, not only do you normally have to have 
an IDE/Dev Env. to run the code - many times - you need extra packages. 
So - my point was - he should really share an EXE as opposed to just 
purely a python chunk of code - since, most in that forum may NOT know 
what to do with it!


I hope that makes more sense now...

-K

On 2/17/2023 7:08 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Feb 16, 2023, at 21:41, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:

Someone just posted on the 3D Printing forum, of which I am a member - some 
Python code to pause a print job. OF course, it was funny - since he posted the 
Actual code - giving it up for others to use.

Not funny at all. Sharing code is very commonplace in the world of free/open 
software.

I have a lot of my code on GitHub (https://github.com/EdLeafe), free for anyone 
to see and use/adapt. Why not?


-- Ed Leafe








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Re: [NF] Queries re: Python & Such...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey Eric,

I would love to do so. But, alas - the one customer I was referencing 
was a Military customer. So, needless to say - I can not share a pic of 
anything from them. But, that being said - I might be able to get a pic 
from a Co-worker in TX who prints REALLY BIG Things - and I might be 
able to grab up one of those pics to post!


I will keep you posted...

-K

On 2/16/2023 11:37 AM, Eric Selje wrote:

That sounds really interesting. If you can post a pic of something that
takes 5 days to 3D print I'd love to see it.

Eric

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:10 AM Ed Leafe  wrote:


On Feb 15, 2023, at 19:01, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:

So, I know there is a Leafe mailing list for Python, as I just looked on

the Leafe mailing lists website. But, sadly - unlike this one - it pretty
much looks dead. Sad - since I was just beginning to get back into some
Python programming again.

I set up the ProPython and ProLinux lists at a time when there was a lot
of discussion about things on those topics on this list, and some members
felt that that stuff didn't belong on a VFP list. But as you've noticed,
there really isn't a need for those lists anymore, and since it takes me
more effort to close them than to leave them running, they're still there.

But I still don't see anything wrong with asking Python questions here, as
long as you add the [NF] in the subject, so that those members who only
want VFP content can filter out such messages.


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Re: [NF] Queries re: Python & Such...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey there Ed,

Its nice to hear from you. Yeah - understood as to why you keep those 
forums running - takes less effort than to kill them off!


But, yes - got it. Will post questions here if need be - with the [NF] 
subject prefix - just to keep it Kosher!


Will say - its kinda fun to be getting back into the programming world a 
little. Python looks like it can be fun stuff. I've got several 
co-workers who have been dabbling in Python that past couple years. But, 
of course, should I really dig in - I could put them all to Shame! But, 
in a fun way - considering my extensive programming background.


Will also note...

Someone just posted on the 3D Printing forum, of which I am a member - 
some Python code to pause a print job. OF course, it was funny - since 
he posted the Actual code - giving it up for others to use. Not that its 
a bad thing. But, for folks that are Not programmers - and who have NOT 
setup a Python Dev environment, and don't know how to DL specific 
packages - its not an Easy thing. Best thing for the guy to do is also 
drop an EXE on the folks. Which I am about to suggest to the guy...


-K

On 2/16/2023 7:10 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Feb 15, 2023, at 19:01, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:

So, I know there is a Leafe mailing list for Python, as I just looked on the 
Leafe mailing lists website. But, sadly - unlike this one - it pretty much 
looks dead. Sad - since I was just beginning to get back into some Python 
programming again.

I set up the ProPython and ProLinux lists at a time when there was a lot of 
discussion about things on those topics on this list, and some members felt 
that that stuff didn't belong on a VFP list. But as you've noticed, there 
really isn't a need for those lists anymore, and since it takes me more effort 
to close them than to leave them running, they're still there.

But I still don't see anything wrong with asking Python questions here, as long 
as you add the [NF] in the subject, so that those members who only want VFP 
content can filter out such messages.


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Re: [NF] Queries re: Python & Such...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Thanks Alan - much appreciated! I may have to check them out at some 
point...


-K

On 2/16/2023 3:21 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:

Kurt

There's the official Python forums: https://python-forum.io/forum-8.html

Also StackOverflow if you can provide a code sample.



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[NF] Queries re: Python & Such...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey there folks,

So, I know there is a Leafe mailing list for Python, as I just looked on 
the Leafe mailing lists website. But, sadly - unlike this one - it 
pretty much looks dead. Sad - since I was just beginning to get back 
into some Python programming again.


I did notice that even this forum has gotten to be VERY Quiet. Sad indeed!

Truthfully, I have not seriously done any FoxPro since like 2020, and 
even that was a Small personal project. Last serious work was in like 
Nov 2017. And, I know that FoxPro usage in general is dying off across 
the world...


Anyway - back to the topic at hand: Python.

In my case, I'm actually using the PySimpleGUI to build UI's. Its a 
project I'm coming back to, as it was mothballed about a year ago - due 
to a big round of layoffs at the 3D Printing co. where I was working. So 
- yeah, FYI - I'm back at that co. - they hired me back last year in 
Oct.!  I'm pretty thrilled to be back - especially as it truly is my 
Dream Job!


Anyway - short synopsis of tool I am working on.

If someone is printing a REALLY Large print job - which can literally 
take like 5 days or more to run, problem is - if you get an error on the 
machine that can not be recovered from. It can be a pretty Epic fail - 
not only because all the lost hours, but, also costs of filament. For 
instance - a special filament like Ultem - can run a customer like $750 
for 2.5Kg of the stuff. So, if a customer runs a big print job - and 
they are on the 2nd spool - and printer dies 1/2 way thru that spool - 
you have essentially thrown like $1100 Down the Toilet!


The tool I am creating will essentially take a massive GCode file, and 
based upon criteria - find out where it left off printing. Then, remove 
all the lines of code that have already been printed - but, making sure 
some of the GCode lines at the top, like print temperatures - are still 
included. Then, it will have proper lines to restart that print job.


Anyway - probably TMI in regards to this posting. But, if anyone could 
point me in the direction of a forum similar to this one - where I could 
get some help in Python programming - that would be Awesome!


Thanks,
Kurt


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Re: Using OpenAI like ChatGPT?

[Kurt @ Gmail]

I must say - this discussion is potentially very interesting. I was 
pondering a reply here, when I only saw the Subject line - but, didn't 
read the actual message content.


The reason being, is because folks at my job (all Engineers) have been 
recently discussing ChatGPT - including actually playing around with it. 
In fact, one or 2 of the guys have actually been using ChatGPT to 
generate Python code. And, myself - I'm actually digging back into doing 
Python coding for work. I may try the ChatGPT myself to see what it can 
do in regards to generating Python code.


I will say, since Python is a modern code, where as VFP is more like 
Legacy programming code - I think ChatGPT would have MUCH Better results 
for creating Python code that works vs. VFP code.


-Kurt


On 2/5/2023 6:33 PM, Eric Selje wrote:

You should ask ChatGPT if Visual Foxpro could make use of OpenAI
like ChatGPT.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:08 PM Man-wai Chang  wrote:


I am just wondering whether Visual Foxpro could make use of OpenAI
like ChatGPT :)

I don't have any purpose nor objective in mind.

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Re: [NF] Understanding Rackspace documentation

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Actually - I believe the Big Kahuna here - Ed Leafe - he worked for 
RackSpace if I am not Mistaken!!!


On 5/12/2022 11:10 AM, Frank Cazabon wrote:

Hi,

anybody here ever had to do anything with Rackspace's  Storage API to 
move objects around?


I think I've seen Rackspace mentioned here before so I'm hoping.

I've got to copy a file from one container to another (actually it's a 
lot of files but I'm just trying to prove the concept).


I've managed to get the authentication sorted out which was defined 
like this:


$ curl https://identity.api.rackspacecloud.com/v2.0/tokens  \
 -X POST \
 -d 
'{"auth":{"RAX-KSKEY:apiKeyCredentials":{"username":"yourUserName","apiKey":"$apiKey"}}}' 
\

 -H "Content-type: application/json"

I was able to translate that like this:

m.lcUrl = "https://identity.api.rackspacecloud.com/v2.0/tokens;

TEXT TO lcAuthBody NOSHOW TEXTMERGE
{
  "auth": {
    "RAX-KSKEY:apiKeyCredentials": {
  "username": "<>",
  "apiKey": "<>"
    }
  }
}
ENDTEXT

LOCAL loXmlHttp AS Microsoft.XMLHTTP

loXmlHttp = Newobject( "Microsoft.XMLHTTP" )
loXmlHttp.Open( "POST" , m.lcUrl, .F. )
loXmlHttp.setRequestHeader("Content-Type","application/json")
loXmlHttp.Send( m.lcAuthBody )

I can then pull the token out of the loXmlHttp.responsetext

Now I want to use this token to copy a file from one container to 
another.


The documentation here 
(https://docs.rackspace.com/docs/cloud-files/v1/storage-api-reference/object-services-operations#copy-object 
) gives this example:


COPY /v1/account/sourceContainer/sourceObject  HTTP/1.1
Host: storageURL
X-Auth-Token: yourAuthToken
Destination: /destinationContainer/destinationObject

I don't know how to interpret this to make an xmlhttp call.

1. What is the url for the end point? I've got the account, 
sourceContainer and sourceObject but not sure what comes before the /v1/


2. I'm unaware of a COPY type of Http request, so what should that be?

3. Even trying various things in PostMan aren't helping :(




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Re: [NF] Those were the days ... ISP charges

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Was that REALLY the cost for CompuServe? Yikes!

I was there at the beginning - I did CompuServe & Prodigy and even 
dabbled in AOL Online briefly - which, years later - all non-computer 
literate people used AOL - and I knew to stay away. I did a little bit 
of the Early BBS systems. And, I was doing online banking with Chemical 
bank via modem & later as Chase Online via true internet (when they 
bought over Chemical & MannyHanny) - so, I was doing online banking 
before most common folks.


Yeah - the days of Modems - what FUN!!!

Funny side story. Its the reason when I was married - that my wife (now 
Ex) - INSISTED I get my own phone line - because I was doing the modem 
stuff - and people could not call in!


:-)

Fun times indeed...

-K

On 4/23/2022 1:03 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

Who's ever going to need more than 256 Kbps?

Puts my .42bis modem all to shame.

And, at $22.95/hour for CompuServe, this will be a real time saver!



On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:09 AM Paul Newton  wrote:

  From an ISP in Kenya ca. 2005

What are the cost implications?
===

They are so minimal, you won't believe it! For as little as US$ 200
per month you can get yourself a leased line of 64Kbps uplink and
256Kbps downlink.

Paul Newton



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Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Cool - its FREE for Home users like Me! Nice!

I'm going to give it a shot...

-K

On 4/13/2022 7:26 AM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Kurt

To answer your question, please visit their website ...

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ Gmail
Sent: 12 April 2022 23:34
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

Hey Paul - OK, no worries. Got it.

On the website - does it stated whether it's a free or paid type of tool?
And, once you do try it out - I'd be curious to know what you think about it
- and if it does what you need done.

Oddly - I still to this day get strange looks from people when I mention
Thunderbird. As I've been using it since nearly its original inception -
which I THINK when Mozilla was 1st released or shortly there after. I've
enjoyed using Thunderbird - and I am surprised that I almost NEVER Come
across anyone that uses Thunderbird!!!

-Kurt

On 4/12/2022 2:27 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Kurt

I don't really have anything to pass on in the way of info - I just
Googled "em Client" and Google came up with About 2,760,000,000
results (0.49 seconds) Thankfully the first result takes you straight
to their website where you can download it.  I haven't yet looked at
it other than as described in my previous message.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @
Gmail
Sent: 12 April 2022 22:21
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

You're quite welcome Paul!

And, wow - 894 hits on the ProFox search is a LOT!

Interesting find on the eMClient. Can you pass us some info on it here.
As I may want to take a lookat that myself and try it - since I also
use Thunderbird. And, actually have a couple outstanding issues with
access of some emails and folder.

Thanks!
-K

On 4/12/2022 2:11 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for your reply and suggestion, Kurt.

Searching for "thunderbird" in the ProFox archive returns 894 matches!
However I did find one useful thing for starters - an e-Mail client
(eM
Client) with which I was able to import all the MBOX messages.

Paul Newton

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @
Gmail
Sent: 12 April 2022 00:21
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

I remember a Thunderbird discussion on here a Good WHILE ago - I may
have been the instigator. I do remember someone saying that the email
data for Thunderbird was actually something like SQL Lite. Again -
this is purely based upon memory - and, old people like me - well, we
have Memory leakages...

Have you tried doing a search of ProFox archives for the word

Thunderbird?

IF so - you might potentially get a Hit!

-Kurt

On 4/11/2022 3:02 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all

 


I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
(Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get
rid of for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these
correspond to TB's folders.  They contain files with no extension
(these contain the actual
emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain
files with an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of
the MBOX

contents.
 


One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client
which works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this
with TB but got stuck at the stage where it wants details of
incoming and outgoing server accounts (I don't want to set up an

account).
 


Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as
individual EML files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap
solutions without limitations would be helpful - I have used
Thunderstor in the past but now can only find a trial version with
no

means to upgrade.
 


The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for
subject, sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode
and save any attachments.

 


Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different
approach) will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to
reinvent the wheel regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody
knows of any tools or existing code that could be helpful .

 


Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message

 


Paul Newton



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[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey Paul - OK, no worries. Got it.

On the website - does it stated whether it's a free or paid type of 
tool? And, once you do try it out - I'd be curious to know what you 
think about it - and if it does what you need done.


Oddly - I still to this day get strange looks from people when I mention 
Thunderbird. As I've been using it since nearly its original inception - 
which I THINK when Mozilla was 1st released or shortly there after. I've 
enjoyed using Thunderbird - and I am surprised that I almost NEVER Come 
across anyone that uses Thunderbird!!!


-Kurt

On 4/12/2022 2:27 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Kurt

I don't really have anything to pass on in the way of info - I just Googled
"em Client" and Google came up with
About 2,760,000,000 results (0.49 seconds)
Thankfully the first result takes you straight to their website where you
can download it.  I haven't yet looked at it other than as described in my
previous message.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ Gmail
Sent: 12 April 2022 22:21
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

You're quite welcome Paul!

And, wow - 894 hits on the ProFox search is a LOT!

Interesting find on the eMClient. Can you pass us some info on it here.
As I may want to take a lookat that myself and try it - since I also use
Thunderbird. And, actually have a couple outstanding issues with access of
some emails and folder.

Thanks!
-K

On 4/12/2022 2:11 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for your reply and suggestion, Kurt.

Searching for "thunderbird" in the ProFox archive returns 894 matches!
However I did find one useful thing for starters - an e-Mail client
(eM
Client) with which I was able to import all the MBOX messages.

Paul Newton

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @
Gmail
Sent: 12 April 2022 00:21
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

I remember a Thunderbird discussion on here a Good WHILE ago - I may
have been the instigator. I do remember someone saying that the email
data for Thunderbird was actually something like SQL Lite. Again -
this is purely based upon memory - and, old people like me - well, we
have Memory leakages...

Have you tried doing a search of ProFox archives for the word Thunderbird?
IF so - you might potentially get a Hit!

-Kurt

On 4/11/2022 3:02 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all




I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
(Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get
rid of for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these
correspond to TB's folders.  They contain files with no extension
(these contain the actual
emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain
files with an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of the
MBOX

contents.



One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client
which works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this
with TB but got stuck at the stage where it wants details of incoming
and outgoing server accounts (I don't want to set up an account).




Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as
individual EML files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap
solutions without limitations would be helpful - I have used
Thunderstor in the past but now can only find a trial version with no

means to upgrade.



The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for subject,
sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode and save any
attachments.




Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different
approach) will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to
reinvent the wheel regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody
knows of any tools or existing code that could be helpful .




Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message




Paul Newton



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Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

[Kurt @ Gmail]

You're quite welcome Paul!

And, wow - 894 hits on the ProFox search is a LOT!

Interesting find on the eMClient. Can you pass us some info on it here. 
As I may want to take a lookat that myself and try it - since I also use 
Thunderbird. And, actually have a couple outstanding issues with access 
of some emails and folder.


Thanks!
-K

On 4/12/2022 2:11 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for your reply and suggestion, Kurt.

Searching for "thunderbird" in the ProFox archive returns 894 matches!
However I did find one useful thing for starters - an e-Mail client (eM
Client) with which I was able to import all the MBOX messages.

Paul Newton

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ Gmail
Sent: 12 April 2022 00:21
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

I remember a Thunderbird discussion on here a Good WHILE ago - I may have
been the instigator. I do remember someone saying that the email data for
Thunderbird was actually something like SQL Lite. Again - this is purely
based upon memory - and, old people like me - well, we have Memory
leakages...

Have you tried doing a search of ProFox archives for the word Thunderbird?
IF so - you might potentially get a Hit!

-Kurt

On 4/11/2022 3:02 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all

   


I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
(Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get rid
of for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these
correspond to TB's folders.  They contain files with no extension
(these contain the actual
emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain files
with an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of the MBOX

contents.
   


One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client
which works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this with
TB but got stuck at the stage where it wants details of incoming and
outgoing server accounts (I don't want to set up an account).

   


Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as
individual EML files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap
solutions without limitations would be helpful - I have used
Thunderstor in the past but now can only find a trial version with no

means to upgrade.
   


The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for subject,
sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode and save any
attachments.

   


Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different
approach) will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to
reinvent the wheel regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody
knows of any tools or existing code that could be helpful .

   


Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message

   


Paul Newton



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Re: Accessing/processing archived emails

[Kurt @ Gmail]

I remember a Thunderbird discussion on here a Good WHILE ago - I may 
have been the instigator. I do remember someone saying that the email 
data for Thunderbird was actually something like SQL Lite. Again - this 
is purely based upon memory - and, old people like me - well, we have 
Memory leakages...


Have you tried doing a search of ProFox archives for the word 
Thunderbird? IF so - you might potentially get a Hit!


-Kurt

On 4/11/2022 3:02 PM, paul.newton.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all

  


I have several (Windows Explorer) folders containing archived TB
(Thunderbird) emails which I want to review and clean up (i.e. get rid of
for good).  These folders have an SBD extension and these correspond to TB's
folders.  They contain files with no extension (these contain the actual
emails) and which I believe are "MBOX" files.  They also contain files with
an MSF extension which apparently contain summaries of the MBOX contents.

  


One possible approach might be to set up TB or another email client which
works with MBOX type files.  I made a first attempt at this with TB but got
stuck at the stage where it wants details of incoming and outgoing server
accounts (I don't want to set up an account).

  


Another approach might be to export all the MBOX messages as individual EML
files.  Here any recommendations for free/cheap solutions without
limitations would be helpful - I have used Thunderstor in the past but now
can only find a trial version with no means to upgrade.

  


The idea then would be to use VFP to parse the EML files for subject,
sender, recipient, date and content as well as to decode and save any
attachments.

  


Any ideas or suggestions regarding either approach (or a different approach)
will be most welcome.  In particular, I would not want to reinvent the wheel
regarding the parsing of the EMLs - so if anybody knows of any tools or
existing code that could be helpful .

  


Many thanks, and apologies for the length of the message

  


Paul Newton



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Re: VRunFox

[Kurt @ Gmail]

I like that Enchilada. But, If I remember right - since I did this a 
good bit when I was working a lot in VFP - you don't need to distribute 
the VFP9.exe file. If you Create an EXE - all you then need to do is 
pass along the DLL files with your project EXE - and then the EXE should 
run...


-Kurt

On 4/8/2022 8:44 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:

If you just want something that you can use onsite without actually installing 
VFP, just take the following files from your VFP\Windows folders, zip them, 
then just unzip them in a folder on whatever machine and run the EXE. This is 
better than vrunfox because it's the full enchilada.

vfp9.exe
vfp9r.dll
vfp9t.dll
vfpenu.dll
vfprenu.dll
gdiplus.dll (c:\windows\syswow64\)
msvcp71.dll (c:\windows\syswow64\)
msvcr71.dll (c:\windows\syswow64\)




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Re: [NF] Facets Database???

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Understood. Thanks for the feedback. Didn't realize it was Dave's site. 
Makes sense.


-K

On 3/7/2022 11:53 AM, Michael Glassman wrote:

Pinal Dave runs the site himself, and English is his second or third language.  
I think most of his readers learn to interpret his writing style and forgive 
his mistakes.

Mike


-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @ Gmail
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2022 11:56 AM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Facets Database???

Hey Mike,

Yeah - that is truly a classic from Dilbert - thanks for the link.
Although, I will admit - I thought Red had the most RAM!

Will also say, I almost had to cringe when reading the article around the comic 
that the dude posted - as his writing is Terrible, and looks like he doesn't 
even bother to Proof read what he wrote, nor does anyone else on the site 
bother to proof read it for him, as in - the folks that run the site! Yikes...

-K

On 3/7/2022 9:15 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

Cue the Dilbert cartoon about databases.
http://track.smtpsendemail.com/9074967/c?p=klYXZw5RMYof4vwZ822brx22uE_
jlBnDP6ycdzwkNLzngCdZNJlTgrzR6E-s8-heh4utQh5TnGSJ0wc4SUrIOKOukhgxW39BS
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On 3/5/2022 2:35 AM, Johan Nel wrote:

Hehe,

That is typical headhunter.  I believe the name of the database to be
developed is to be named Facets...

On 2022/03/04 19:48, Kurt @ Gmail wrote:

Hey folks - anyone every heard of this kinda DB before? Myself - Never!

So, I was surprised when this headhunter reached out to me about a
job doing this stuff. And, I confirmed - she insists the person must
obviously have hands-on experience with it. This is the info about
the Gig and her info (she connected with me on LinkedIn - so you can
connect with her there):


  Facets Database Developer

*Hi there! We’re searching for a database developer with strong
Facets experience. This role will potentially be a role that will be
contract to hire, but in the meantime it’ll be 100% remote and a
contract.  The role will be gathering all information regarding the
intended functions of the Facets database and configuring, and
designing and creating appropriate frameworks. Do you know someone
who is a fit? We’re interviewing asap. Lauren Daher Senior Manager,
Consultant Engagement at Catalyst Solutions*

I'd say TGIF - but, in my case - nothing to be thankful for in
regards to sliding into the weekend...

-Kurt


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Re: [NF] Facets Database???

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Wow Stephen - that's just Facet-enating!

-K

On 3/7/2022 9:20 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:

It could be working with them as well.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18347277/how-to-create-a-faceted-search-with-sql-server


On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 11:14 AM MB Software Solutions, LLC <
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:


That reminds me of DotNet job ads when they asked the same thing.lol

On 3/4/2022 4:57 PM, j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote:

It may be that the headhunter doesn't fully understand what they are

asking for.  I remember a few weeks after Visual Basic was launched seeing
adverts for programmers with at least two years' experience of Visual
Basic. 

John Weller
07976 393631


-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Ted Roche
Sent: 04 March 2022 21:06
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Facets Database???

Welcome back, Kurt!

A quick web search for "facets database" doesn't seem to point to one
product, but rather a feature that several different database engines

are

offering as different things. It's hard to know what the headhunter

wants.

Besides heads, of course.



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Re: [NF] Facets Database???

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey Mike,

Yeah - that is truly a classic from Dilbert - thanks for the link. 
Although, I will admit - I thought Red had the most RAM!


Will also say, I almost had to cringe when reading the article around 
the comic that the dude posted - as his writing is Terrible, and looks 
like he doesn't even bother to Proof read what he wrote, nor does anyone 
else on the site bother to proof read it for him, as in - the folks that 
run the site! Yikes...


-K

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On 3/5/2022 2:35 AM, Johan Nel wrote:

Hehe,

That is typical headhunter.  I believe the name of the database to be 
developed is to be named Facets...


On 2022/03/04 19:48, Kurt @ Gmail wrote:

Hey folks - anyone every heard of this kinda DB before? Myself - Never!

So, I was surprised when this headhunter reached out to me about a 
job doing this stuff. And, I confirmed - she insists the person must 
obviously have hands-on experience with it. This is the info about 
the Gig and her info (she connected with me on LinkedIn - so you can 
connect with her there):



 Facets Database Developer

*Hi there! We’re searching for a database developer with strong 
Facets experience. This role will potentially be a role that will be 
contract to hire, but in the meantime it’ll be 100% remote and a 
contract.  The role will be gathering all information regarding the 
intended functions of the Facets database and configuring, and 
designing and creating appropriate frameworks. Do you know someone 
who is a fit? We’re interviewing asap. Lauren Daher Senior Manager, 
Consultant Engagement at Catalyst Solutions*


I'd say TGIF - but, in my case - nothing to be thankful for in 
regards to sliding into the weekend...


-Kurt


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Re: [NF] Facets Database???

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Ha ha - that's True - but, ONLY if its truly Multi-Faceted!
-K

On 3/6/2022 1:07 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:

It's a good name for a database though.



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Re: [NF] Facets Database???

[Kurt @ Gmail]

I totally agree with you. Many times I find headhunters to be rather 
useless! In reality, I think a headhunter should work in the industry 
for which they are trying to place people, so they know what they are 
doing - and should have done that kind of work Before becoming a 
headhunter. But, we know - for the most part - that simply is not the case!


-K

On 3/4/2022 11:35 PM, Johan Nel wrote:

Hehe,

That is typical headhunter.  I believe the name of the database to be 
developed is to be named Facets...


On 2022/03/04 19:48, Kurt @ Gmail wrote:

Hey folks - anyone every heard of this kinda DB before? Myself - Never!

So, I was surprised when this headhunter reached out to me about a 
job doing this stuff. And, I confirmed - she insists the person must 
obviously have hands-on experience with it. This is the info about 
the Gig and her info (she connected with me on LinkedIn - so you can 
connect with her there):



 Facets Database Developer

*Hi there! We’re searching for a database developer with strong 
Facets experience. This role will potentially be a role that will be 
contract to hire, but in the meantime it’ll be 100% remote and a 
contract.  The role will be gathering all information regarding the 
intended functions of the Facets database and configuring, and 
designing and creating appropriate frameworks. Do you know someone 
who is a fit? We’re interviewing asap. Lauren Daher Senior Manager, 
Consultant Engagement at Catalyst Solutions*


I'd say TGIF - but, in my case - nothing to be thankful for in 
regards to sliding into the weekend...


-Kurt


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Re: [NF] Facets Database???

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey there Ted,

Its great to hear from you!!! As for the welcome back - Thanks - I 
appreciate it. Of course, its not for good reasons that I am back. But, 
it is what it is...


Interesting feedback about Facets. And, funny joke about her Hunt for 
heads. That being said, I've dealt with headhunters who are NOT too 
bright. So, even though she Claims its a Facet DB - maybe she is simply 
wrong - and doesn't really have a clue.


Either that, or Facets is SO Old - that's why its not appearing as an 
actual DB, but, rather - certain DB Engines can maybe import Facet type 
data. But, at this point - I wouldn't worry about it.


Myself - I'm not going to worry about it either!

Also - funny one on You Paul for Tails comment!!!

-K

On 3/4/2022 1:05 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

Welcome back, Kurt!

A quick web search for "facets database" doesn't seem to point to one
product, but rather a feature that several different database engines
are offering as different things. It's hard to know what the
headhunter wants. Besides heads, of course.

On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 12:48 PM Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:

Hey folks - anyone every heard of this kinda DB before? Myself - Never!

So, I was surprised when this headhunter reached out to me about a job
doing this stuff. And, I confirmed - she insists the person must
obviously have hands-on experience with it. This is the info about the
Gig and her info (she connected with me on LinkedIn - so you can connect
with her there):


   Facets Database Developer

*Hi there! We’re searching for a database developer with strong Facets
experience. This role will potentially be a role that will be contract
to hire, but in the meantime it’ll be 100% remote and a contract.  The
role will be gathering all information regarding the intended functions
of the Facets database and configuring, and designing and creating
appropriate frameworks. Do you know someone who is a fit? We’re
interviewing asap. Lauren Daher Senior Manager, Consultant Engagement at
Catalyst Solutions*

I'd say TGIF - but, in my case - nothing to be thankful for in regards
to sliding into the weekend...

-Kurt


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Re: Using gmail to send emails from your VFP apps -- deadline approaching for shutoff

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Ah Cool - so that's how Tracy did it! I do remember someone posted about 
that in the past - because I have seen this problem many times before.


But, now I'm curious. Is the problem related to my email reader - or it 
really is related to how Mike transmitted the message? Does it occur 
because someone tried to transmit a message to the forum here, and it 
included some HTML formatting? As I know this forum does Not support 
that kind of formatting.


I just posted something today - am wondering if my own posting got 
transmitted as Alien-Speak as well...


-Kurt

On 3/4/2022 11:32 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Mar 4, 2022, at 12:01, MB Software Solutions, LLC 
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Z290IHRoaXMgbm90aWNlIGZyb20gZ29vZ2xlIHRvZGF5OgoKCiAgTGVzcyBzZWN1cmUgYXBwcyAm

... etc.

Try this site: https://www.base64decode.org


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Re: Using gmail to send emails from your VFP apps -- deadline approaching for shutoff

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Gosh Mike - that looks like Alien speak. You might want to run this 
message thru your ACTU (Alien Communication Translation Unit)!


-Kurt

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[NF] Facets Database???

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey folks - anyone every heard of this kinda DB before? Myself - Never!

So, I was surprised when this headhunter reached out to me about a job 
doing this stuff. And, I confirmed - she insists the person must 
obviously have hands-on experience with it. This is the info about the 
Gig and her info (she connected with me on LinkedIn - so you can connect 
with her there):



 Facets Database Developer

*Hi there! We’re searching for a database developer with strong Facets 
experience. This role will potentially be a role that will be contract 
to hire, but in the meantime it’ll be 100% remote and a contract.  The 
role will be gathering all information regarding the intended functions 
of the Facets database and configuring, and designing and creating 
appropriate frameworks. Do you know someone who is a fit? We’re 
interviewing asap. Lauren Daher Senior Manager, Consultant Engagement at 
Catalyst Solutions*


I'd say TGIF - but, in my case - nothing to be thankful for in regards 
to sliding into the weekend...


-Kurt


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Re: Back from the Dead & MS PowerApps...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hi there Alan,

Thanks for the reply, and the extensive feedback. Actually, Stephen 
touched based with me about it, we chatted on the phone. It was good 
getting to catch up with him - as it was a while since last I spoke to 
him. He did let me know that the full blown version of PowerApps, if you 
have the 365 license, lets you connect to almost any kind of data 
source, including things like MS SQL. Too bad that reporting is an 
afterthought, considering how VFP kicks butt at it! I will indeed have 
to check out that Tutorial link you sent me.


Thanks again,
Kurt


On 2/28/2022 2:06 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:

I've had a play with PowerApps - ti was PowerApps For Teams which is (or was) 
more limited than full-fat PowerApps. For example at the time you could only 
use Sharepoint Lists as your data backend but I understand now there is a 
'Dataverse For Teams' also. For serious LOB applications for end users you or 
your customer would need the full PowerApps on your Office 365 subscription. As 
ever with these low-code tools, it's great until you start hitting edge cases 
but I was quite impressed.

Of course business application style reporting and printing is a distinct 
afterthought as it seems to be with every tool that isn't Visual FoxPro ;)

Take a look at April Dunnam's excellent Youtube tutorials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H4ljf4FuTE



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Re: Back from the Dead & MS PowerApps...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Thanks Tracy!

On 2/24/2022 2:53 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:

Good luck,  Kurt.

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt @
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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 5:32 PM
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Thanks SO Much RK - its Great to hear from you again!!

-K

On 2/24/2022 2:30 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:

Good luck with the latest search, Kurt.

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rk

From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ Gmail
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 5:27 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Back from the Dead & MS PowerApps...

Hey there folks,

I know its been a while since many of you last heard from me. Yeah, I
used to be Very Active on this forum some years ago. I did manage to get
an Awesome 3D Printing job last year in July, it was Truly my Dream Job.
And, that's not an exaggeration. But, alas - situation went FUBAR, and
the co. let go 40% of workforce between Cali & Texas operations -
including me...

So, I'm Back to Searching for a job, and also back to maybe being a
little more active on here. As I'm now looking at programming jobs, as
well as 3D Printing related jobs.

Anyway, I came across this job listing, which of course mentioned
FoxPro. But, then it also mentioned MS PowerApps. I'd Never heard of
that. And, a quick search seems to show you can do Drag screen
design, with little coding required.

As such, I was curious to know if Anyone here had any experience with
that!?!?

OK, its back to the job search now. I look forward to hearing back from
the Hive Mind here.

Regards,
Kurt



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Re: Back from the Dead & MS PowerApps...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Thanks SO Much RK - its Great to hear from you again!!

-K

On 2/24/2022 2:30 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:

Good luck with the latest search, Kurt.

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rk

From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Kurt @ Gmail
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 5:27 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Back from the Dead & MS PowerApps...

Hey there folks,

I know its been a while since many of you last heard from me. Yeah, I
used to be Very Active on this forum some years ago. I did manage to get
an Awesome 3D Printing job last year in July, it was Truly my Dream Job.
And, that's not an exaggeration. But, alas - situation went FUBAR, and
the co. let go 40% of workforce between Cali & Texas operations -
including me...

So, I'm Back to Searching for a job, and also back to maybe being a
little more active on here. As I'm now looking at programming jobs, as
well as 3D Printing related jobs.

Anyway, I came across this job listing, which of course mentioned
FoxPro. But, then it also mentioned MS PowerApps. I'd Never heard of
that. And, a quick search seems to show you can do Drag screen
design, with little coding required.

As such, I was curious to know if Anyone here had any experience with
that!?!?

OK, its back to the job search now. I look forward to hearing back from
the Hive Mind here.

Regards,
Kurt



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Back from the Dead & MS PowerApps...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey there folks,

I know its been a while since many of you last heard from me. Yeah, I 
used to be Very Active on this forum some years ago. I did manage to get 
an Awesome 3D Printing job last year in July, it was Truly my Dream Job. 
And, that's not an exaggeration. But, alas - situation went FUBAR, and 
the co. let go 40% of workforce between Cali & Texas operations - 
including me...


So, I'm Back to Searching for a job, and also back to maybe being a 
little more active on here. As I'm now looking at programming jobs, as 
well as 3D Printing related jobs.


Anyway, I came across this job listing, which of course mentioned 
FoxPro. But, then it also mentioned MS PowerApps. I'd Never heard of 
that. And, a quick search seems to show you can do Drag screen 
design, with little coding required.


As such, I was curious to know if Anyone here had any experience with 
that!?!?


OK, its back to the job search now. I look forward to hearing back from 
the Hive Mind here.


Regards,
Kurt


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Re: [NF] ML & Python anyone?

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Interesting coincidence that I should read this today - as I just 
started to dabble at Python at work. Will admit - I don't know the ML 
reference.


FYI - my new job is actually my Dream Job - been there almost 3 months 
now - its a 3D Printer co. - with HUGE Machines I get to work on BEAT 
Them Up - as a Test Tech.!


Shout out to Mr. Babcock - thanks for the Kudos on LI!

-Kurt

On 10/1/2021 6:43 AM, Jürgen Wondzinski wrote:

If you're able to speak Python, you could as well take a look at 
www.Lianja.com, which is basically VFP11 with Python, PHP, JavaScript and 
TypeScript compilers added. Uses the VFP object-model including its 
Container-Hierarchy and classes. Can use any database (besides of it's own 
SQLServer), generates classic Desktop apps for Win, Mac and Linux. Creates 
Mobile Apps. It's also easy to build cloudbased AppServers and SaaS 
installations.

wOOdy


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: ProFox  Im Auftrag von Peter Cushing
Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Oktober 2021 15:16
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Interesting.  Just recently downloaded python and was looking at doing some ML. 
 Also downloaded pytorch to hopefully do this.  Got to learn some python first, 
then try to apply it.   Lots to learn and will have a look at the videos on 
here.  Thanks,


Peter Cushing
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[NF] OMG - TeamViewer is Changing!

[Kurt @ Gmail]

So - a few days I was driving south on the 405 here in LA. And, most of 
you are probably already familiar with the really big Digital billboards 
that are popping up all over America - on the sides of major highways.


Well, I see this one - with an Ad for The Walking Dead (one of my 
favorite shows) - but, in the lower left 1/3 of the sign is this Blue 
Box! And,  as I got closer, I saw it said "TeamViewer is Changing"! I 
had to laugh my ass off at that technical glitch. Am sure most folks 
driving by had no idea as to what is TeamViewer. But, it sure was funny!


Lastly, as I'm now located in LA - if anyone here is local to LA and 
wants to meet up for Beers & some Tech talk - feel free to drop me a line.


L8r,
Kurt


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Re: Hacker's Guide, Section 4, now live on github.io!

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey Ted - thanks for letting us know about this. Its pretty cool. I 
really like that pic of the fox in a wizard type outfit. Am curious to 
know Doug's thought process in regards to posting this specific chapter. 
I mean, yeah, I get it - its listing all the commands and how they work.


I also really like the quote - the 1st 1 from Alice & Wonderland, and, 
then I saw the one from a band, as I was looking at COS(). And, that 
brought back distant memories.


Back in the early 80's - if people had an Apple or a PC computer in 
their homes (and it was very few) - I could in about 10 minutes write a 
small program that would spin a line around and essentially draw a 
circle. I used the Cartesian to Polar coord. systems conversion - using 
Sine & Cosine functions - to spin angles & gen X coord's - and, people 
were always blown away when I would do that on there computer. Yeah - 
literally about 10 min. to create the program and have it running. It 
was cool, since it was early CG, and showed not only the power of a 
personal computer - but the power of math and a couple of simple math 
functions!


-K-

On 12/29/2019 7:46 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

Kudos to Doug Hennig for getting this done!

https://hackfox.github.io/

Looks great!



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Re: Outlook Redemption tool

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Awesome - I'm glad Gianni's suggestion worked. I am quite sure I also 
used that .Display() option before. But, again - it was SO Many Years 
ago - and, at my advanced age - Memory Leakage is quite 
common... :-)


-K-

On 9/4/2019 6:41 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

PERFECT!!! That did it!

On 9/3/2019 9:39 PM, Gianni Turri wrote:

Use .Display() instead of .Save()

Gianni



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Re: FoxPro 2.6a for Chromebooks

[Kurt @ Gmail]

You took the words right out of my mouth!

On 9/2/2019 7:47 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:

updated their
membership tracking app to something else using FileMaker.

Downgraded more like. FileMaker. Eccch.



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Re: FoxPro 2.6a for Chromebooks

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Damn Eric - that is a Helluva Great Story!!! I love it!

I worked a prior job where it was a consulting co. that created database 
system apps or updated/maintained existings types of apps(like SBT). It 
was mostly all russian programmers - and I was essentially a project 
manager - and the direct contact with many of the clients. Well, one 
client - with whom I actually DID do some of the FoxPro programming work 
myself - and they had Macs (it was a publisher for Wine Spectator & 
Cigar Afficianado mag's). And, they were also using FileMaker. I think I 
DID do some interfacing to that app - possibly to extract data - but, it 
was a long time ago - so don't remember much about that job.


However, on a related note to your college experience. I actually put a 
team of students together to do a special independent type project. I 
think it was maybe 6 or 8 of us. Generally in pairs - like 2 worked on 
creating the GUI, 2 of us doing the coding for the mathematical data 
manipulation (the whole app was a CG type app - allowing interesting 
experimentation with mathematical types of CG) - and 2 of them were 
doing documentation. It was all based upon an art type class I took at a 
previous college. And, the head of the comp. dept. liked my idea of 
making an app and running it as a kind of independent study course for a 
team of students. So - yup - we got credit for doing it. Sadlly - I hate 
to admit it - it didn't work out too well - and I don't think we ever 
properly finished a truly functional app...


-K-

On 9/2/2019 6:06 AM, Eric Selje wrote:

Here's a fun, related story.

In college I was in the sailing club, and they used a spreadsheet to keep
track of membership. They only had Macs in the boathouse. I wrote a
membership tracker in FPW 2.6 and then walked a floppy over to the
boathouse and ran the app, unmodified, on their Mac that had FoxPro.

As I was about to graduate, I met with my advisor and it turned out I was
One Credit short of my requirements. I just about panicked, but he asked me
about any independent work I'd been doing for the University. I told him
about my project for the sailing club, and he gave me a credit of
independent study. Boom - FoxPro helped me get my degree in Computer
Science.

A few years later I went into the boathouse. They'd already updated their
membership tracking app to something else using FileMaker. I wonder if
whoever did that got credit?

Eric



On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 8:43 PM Michael Oke, II  wrote:


It was, after a fashion, ancient history. I remember creating a Mac 3.0 app
from a DOS app. Fun times.



On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 08:43 Ted Roche  wrote:


On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 11:16 AM John Weller 
wrote:


I should have remembered!


Well, it is ANCIENT history, at this point. :)

(and I had been shipping commercial apps for 20 years then ;)

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Re: [NF] Chromebook End of Automatic Updates

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Alternately - to take LESS chances after AUE - just don't connect the 
Chromebook to the Web!


Its a thought...

-K-

On 8/23/2019 7:16 AM, davetha...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 7:20 AM Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.
 wrote:

I just bought from Amazon a Chromebook.  I asked Tech Support date of AUE:

June, 2020!

https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/6220366?hl=en

What are your suggestions on June, 2020?


According to:


1) Get a new chromebook.
2) Install Linux
3) Install a chrome os workalike
or
4) just take your chances.

hth

dt


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Wow - Deja vu!

I joined this forum Circa 2008 - and, previously I was at a job and had 
to do Exactly this! It was maybe circa 2005-06. YEs, I did indeed do 
this via Office Automation. There was a great book out there - all about 
doing OA - and that's how I ended up doing the project. I too needed to 
do attachments as well.


Book w/all answers is by Hentzenwerks (probably misspelled that!). But, 
there you have it...


-K-

On 8/20/2019 9:22 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

VFP9SP2 app

Customer uses Outlook and wants the app to generate an email to a 
given email address from the app AND attach certain documents to it.  
Customer will preview it and then manually hit "Send" on their own.


What's the BEST (and hopefully easiest) way to implement this? Invoke 
Outlook via CREATEOBJECT and set properties and attachments 
accordingly?  Typically in the past I've used MAILTO and ShellExec but 
this time the extra requirement is to have files attached from the 
application too, which makes MAILTO not an option, if I understand 
correctly.


tia,
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Re: Happy Anniversary!

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Hey Ed - Congrats on the Anniv of this Baby of yours. Its Still kicking 
- and its now almost to the drinking age!!!


I wish I knew about the forum earlier than I did. But, was THRILLED to 
join it back in 2008 when I did! So - I guess for me - its my 11th yr 
anniv here in the forum - and I'm made some great friends here too!


-K-

On 8/17/2019 7:35 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:

OK, it's a bit late, but it just occurred to me that we just passed the 20th 
anniversary of the ProFox list! I posted the first message on July 22, 1999. So 
break out the bubbly!

https://leafe.com/archives/msg/1


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Re: Happy Anniversary!

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Wow - I am JEALOUS! I would LOVE to have been able to support an old 
Pascal app - as TurboPascal was my 1st True Love! It was SO Awesome!!!


:-)

-K-


On 8/17/2019 7:44 AM, Jean MAURICE wrote:

ouaouh so old ? and still working ?

Some of you remember that I am a railway fan and a ... fossile in 
computer programming. Last week, I have benn hired by SNCF (the French 
National Railways) to maintain an app built in 1991 with ... Pascal. 
In fact there is a new app being built but it is very late ... as our 
trains are !


I wish a long life to Profox, the best thing that happened in my 
professional life.


The Foxil

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Re: vfp9 exe

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Why not create a single file - with a single record, a File Lock Flag. 
So - when a user goes to reindex files - they MUST Lock that one record 
1st. Then, at the startup of your system - for regular users - the 
system must check that flag & record to see if someone locked it and is 
indexing files.


It's a thought...

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On 7/23/2019 10:36 AM, Ken McGinnis wrote:
We have a vfp9 SP2 program that has been running nearly bug free for 
over 10 years. Only now we have a need to find out if anyone else is 
using the exe in a specific folder. We allow many users to have their 
own unique folder with their patient data files.


So we log into folder 1 and another user is in folder 2. No problem.

If we log into folder 1 and another user is in that same folder, again 
no problem. Our software is multi-user down to the individual record 
level. The problem is when the 2nd user comes in and needs to lock 
many or all files to reindex or other procedures. How can the 2nd user 
know that another user is there? Again it is not a problem until that 
1st user starts to do something, almost anything that requires 
accessing files. All files are locked by the 2nd user so the 1st user 
starts getting errors.


We could try to lock the exe and that would fail so we would know 
someone else is using the software. However, if that other user is 
working with data in a different folder, we don't care so we do not 
want to lock the exe.


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Re: Remote FoxPro Work???

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Wow - you really must be a Fan! Will be honest - and it probably sounds 
bad - but, I never heard of A-frame. I have, of course, heard of Unity - 
and I have merely dabbled in it. But, most co's want SERIOUS Unity 
experience in order to hire. And, FYI - the current gig - which does NOT 
Pay enough - and thus my current financial stress - its running a 3D 
Printing farm - and also doing 3D designs for clients. But, it simply 
does NOT pay well enough...


-K-

On 7/2/2019 3:39 PM, Paul Hemans wrote:

You also have 3d skills. Can you use them to segue into A-Frame, Unity or
photorealism etc?

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 7:56 AM Kurt at VR-FX  wrote:


Yeah - I know - these days - that's a pretty crazy request.

I know some of you have followed me a bit - and know I lost my job in
Nov 2017 - where I was working down on Wall Street. Then, moved to Cali
to look for a job - could NOT find work in San Francisco. Even applied
to UCLA for a programming job - did 2 rounds of interviews - and the
people there saying they were impressed with me - during both
interviews. Only to NOT get the job. Then, finally, getting a "job" down
here in San Diego. Actually getting to do 3D Design work for clients, as
well as running 3D Printing jobs. But, sadly - its SUCKING! Its not a
regular job - not salaried - not even part time pay. Its contractor pay
- per job - and it does NOT pay well enough. Been here for over 9 weeks
now - and its again put me in a BAD financial situation...

So - as a total "shot in the dark" - I figured I would post here again
and see if there is any possible remote FoxPro work.

And, I know - almost no companies these days are still working w/VFP.
And, sure, I know it would be better to work in some other newer more
modern tech. - but, I don't have any  of those tools in my tool belt. So
- all I really have is VFP & MS SQL.

Anyway - just figured I would take a stab and post here...

Regards   -Kurt



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1st IDE - yes, that was exactly my point. For programming - it was TRULY 
a Game Changer!!!


On 7/4/2019 1:10 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:

Turbo Pascal and Turbo C were indeed great, used them a lot in college.

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Excellent! Don't we ALL Need an Upgrade in life???

On 5/21/2019 11:45 PM, Johan Nel wrote:

On 2019/05/21 21:09, Eric Selje wrote:

And as a programmer, can you fix my iPhone?

Yes, it is called upgrade iPhone 4.0 to iPhone 6.0... :-D


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Re: [NF] Cursing Microsoft for dialog boxes that will not expand in any direction in Word 2016

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Touche!

On 5/21/2019 3:09 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

At 12:09 2019-05-21, Eric Selje  wrote:

And as a programmer, can you fix my iPhone?


 Call a veterinarian instead.

[snip]

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Nope - and I wouldn't want to. To be honest - I prefer to hang out in 
the 3DP Realm...


-K-

On 5/21/2019 12:09 PM, Eric Selje wrote:

And as a programmer, can you fix my iPhone?

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:32 PM Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:


Mike - how DARE you make a comment like that! You're a programmer - and
ALL code should look Easy to you!!! No???

:-)

-K-


On 5/21/2019 8:49 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

Ouch...that gives me a headache just trying to decipher that!


On 5/21/2019 4:36 AM, Johan Nel wrote:

And straight from the .NET runtime, the culprit is  drum
rolling..  BestFitMapping = false :-)

[DllImport("user32.dll", BestFitMapping = false, CharSet =
CharSet.Auto, SetLastError = true)]
[SuppressUnmanagedCodeSecurity]
[SecurityCritical]
public static extern int MessageBox(HandleRef hWnd, string text,
string caption, int type);

On 2019/05/20 23:52, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

GRR! I've got a colossal cleanup to do with bookmark
references and this freaking window refuses to enlarge in any
direction: https://www.screencast.com/t/PTDtv8bVI

C'MON, M$!!!  NOT TODAY!


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Re: [NF] Cursing Microsoft for dialog boxes that will not expand in any direction in Word 2016

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Mike - how DARE you make a comment like that! You're a programmer - and 
ALL code should look Easy to you!!! No???


:-)

-K-


On 5/21/2019 8:49 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:

Ouch...that gives me a headache just trying to decipher that!


On 5/21/2019 4:36 AM, Johan Nel wrote:
And straight from the .NET runtime, the culprit is  drum 
rolling..  BestFitMapping = false :-)


[DllImport("user32.dll", BestFitMapping = false, CharSet = 
CharSet.Auto, SetLastError = true)]

[SuppressUnmanagedCodeSecurity]
[SecurityCritical]
public static extern int MessageBox(HandleRef hWnd, string text, 
string caption, int type);


On 2019/05/20 23:52, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote:
GRR! I've got a colossal cleanup to do with bookmark 
references and this freaking window refuses to enlarge in any 
direction: https://www.screencast.com/t/PTDtv8bVI


C'MON, M$!!!  NOT TODAY!


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Re: [NF] Cursing Microsoft for dialog boxes that will not expand in any direction in Word 2016

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Angry Mike - I thought your post was funny - but, then I looked at the 
pic - and had to laugh. You now remind me of Bad Steve!


Oh no - now I'm Bad Kurt...

:-)

-K-


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GRR! I've got a colossal cleanup to do with bookmark 
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Re: VFP apps and UPS ShipExec SDK

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What you want to do - definitely seems to spark a memory inside my old 
feeble mind. Maybe I had tried working on something like that some YEARS 
ago! I can even visualize in my head the circumstance - and I think it 
was for some client project - and they were doing shipments. But, beyond 
that - I have no recollection. I possibly did that even before I joined 
this forum!


Did you search the archives for anyone else doing something similar?

-K-

On 5/16/2019 5:58 AM, Philip Borkholder wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone worked with the UPS ShipExec SDK .NET Class Library files 
and a VFP app?


I have been presented with a case and I am looking for guidance.


Thanks,

Philip Borkholder

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Re: [NF] UCLA Job & a 3DP Job...

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Just a short follow-up...

I actually worked the last 7 days. But, alas - its flexible - I can come 
and go when I want at the shop. I spent several hours yesterday as well 
as today - working on a weekend - but, alas - I enjoy it. Am also 
working to bring in new biz into the shop there - so, its fun, I'm 
learning stuff - and I am Hustling to make money! ALL good things!!!


And - yeah - the weather is Awesome down here - I feel like I am living 
in the Caribbean!


-K-

On 4/2/2019 12:01 AM, John Weller wrote:

+1

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On 1 Apr 2019, at 21:36, Ted Roche  wrote:

Bon Voyage and good luck with your move and new position!

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Re: [NF] Substandard Software

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Gene - I truly feel your pain. But, alas - your posting was a Delightful 
Chuckle!!! I truly enjoy your humor.


-K-

On 4/11/2019 5:26 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
Dear [unless you write software like that I am about to discuss] List 
Members:


 Look!  I have a shiny new E-mail address.  The apartment complex 
where I live decided to change things -- new management -- and the 
local phone company shortly will no longer be able to deliver service 
here.


 I have everything transferred over, and so far, so good for the 
most part.


 Never mind that my new ISP's Webmail page will not let me sign 
in.  Never mind that their Web page chops off some important parts of 
the page.  (I usually just use POP anyway.)  (I do not want to change 
my screen resolution as I like to be able to read what is on it 
without going all squinty.)


 If you send E-mail to my old E-mail address, it will get to me, 
but this is no thanks to Telus support.  The Telus support rep did not 
know how to do redirection of neither new E-mail, nor existing E-mail 
and would probably rather have hung up on me.


 Telus's redirect feature operates on only one E-mail at a time.  
I had accumulated about 65 messages in the few days I have not been 
using E-mail.  You can see what is coming, right? Telus's Webmail 
feature does allow selecting more than one message at a time, but this 
is not available for redirect and there is no message about this 
either.  In addition, how one enters the target E-mail address seems 
to require use of both keyboard and mouse.


 Please do not write software like this.  I would regret your 
death.  I would also regret you not dying.


 Have a good weekend.  Unless you write software like the above.

 (Yes, I know.  We have all had to do shortcuts, but general use 
software like Webmail should have a better (complete?) user interface.)


Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko



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Re: [NF] What happens on the Wednesday after the 2nd Tuesday?

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Gotta say - that's TOO Funny! Lucky I am Lazy about doing Updates - but, 
in this case - Laziness is a Godsend!


:-)

-K-


On 4/11/2019 3:05 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

Windows machines crash, or fail to start:

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsofts-april-2019-updates-are-causing-windows-to-freeze/

Just the usual. Avoid updates for a while, lock up your machines if you can.

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Thanks John!

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Re: ProFox List Statistics for March 2019

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Thanks Johan! And - keep up the great work w/X#!

-K-

On 4/1/2019 4:35 PM, Johan Nel wrote:
Well, well, well... Well done Kurt!  Paul, I will get you to number 2 
soon


It seems X# have slowly entered the Top 20 popular ProFox list too.  
Slowly making its way to the number 1 spot...


Watch the statistics...

Johan Nel
Friend of XSharp (FOX)
George, South Africa.

On 2019/04/01 22:37, Paul H. Tarver wrote:

Just as shocked to see that I was so busy last month that I fell off the
list for the first time in months! I guess I need to step up my group 
game!

:)

Paul H. Tarver

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Re: [NF] UCLA Job & a 3DP Job...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey there Ed - yeah, I hear ya. I hang out here - mostly cause its a 
place full of familiar "Faces"/names - and thus a lot of the time I do 
it more for the camaraderie!


And - yes, the new gig probably will Kick Arse! And, since I will be 
working with a guy who runs a 3DP biz - there is the potential to work 
with him to help me bring some of my creative product designs to market. 
Will try to follow-up here in the near future to let people know how 
things work out.


-K-

On 4/1/2019 3:33 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:

I am now preparing to move down to SD this next weekend and leave SF. Hopefully 
it works out for the best. Of course, it will put me even Farther away from the 
FoxPro realm. However, I will still try to pop my head up here on occasion. 
Heck, maybe I can even meet some of the ProFox folks in person down there.

I’m about as far away from the FoxPro realm as could be, and I still manage to 
pop up here. I’m sure that your new gig will kick ass!


-- Ed Leafe







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Re: [NF] UCLA Job & a 3DP Job...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Thanks Tracy & Roger!  I hope it truly turns out to be a Great Adventure 
- but, not a theme park...


-K-

On 4/1/2019 2:50 PM, roger tremblay wrote:

Good luck in your new venture.

On 4/1/2019 5:37 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:

May you fair well on your new venture!

Tracy

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
Kurt @

Gmail
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 4:27 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: [NF] UCLA Job & a 3DP Job...

So - sadly - I got rejected from the UCLA job! Believe me - it kinda
freaked me out. They claimed that they had a pool of good candidates.
But, alas - can that be true??? I mean - WTF - we know there are hardly
any VFP programmers still around these days - and a good number of them
have passed away over the years! They even claimed one foolish candidate
did not even know the color of the FoxPro logo! Ugh...

As such, I kinda freaked out when I got the rejection letter -
especially as I REALLY Needed to move ASAP - as life at my sister's
house had become a disaster!!! Well, I then remembered I personally knew
the CEO's of 2 different 3DP co's down in San Diego. I reached out to
BOTH of them - and Bang - one of them got back to me in like 25min -
telling me it was perfect timing - since he was currently looking for
someone - and indeed had an open position - for a person to run &
deliver 3D Print jobs.

I am now preparing to move down to SD this next weekend and leave SF.
Hopefully it works out for the best. Of course, it will put me even
Farther away from the FoxPro realm. However, I will still try to pop my
head up here on occasion. Heck, maybe I can even meet some of the ProFox
folks in person down there.

L8r,

-K-



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Re: [NF] UCLA Job & a 3DP Job...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Yes indeed Stpehen - Youre quite correct!! And - thanks for the moral 
support!


On 4/1/2019 1:39 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

Good luck down there.  This is what you really want to do, isn't it?

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 3:27 PM Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:


So - sadly - I got rejected from the UCLA job! Believe me - it kinda
freaked me out. They claimed that they had a pool of good candidates.
But, alas - can that be true??? I mean - WTF - we know there are hardly
any VFP programmers still around these days - and a good number of them
have passed away over the years! They even claimed one foolish candidate
did not even know the color of the FoxPro logo! Ugh...

As such, I kinda freaked out when I got the rejection letter -
especially as I REALLY Needed to move ASAP - as life at my sister's
house had become a disaster!!! Well, I then remembered I personally knew
the CEO's of 2 different 3DP co's down in San Diego. I reached out to
BOTH of them - and Bang - one of them got back to me in like 25min -
telling me it was perfect timing - since he was currently looking for
someone - and indeed had an open position - for a person to run &
deliver 3D Print jobs.

I am now preparing to move down to SD this next weekend and leave SF.
Hopefully it works out for the best. Of course, it will put me even
Farther away from the FoxPro realm. However, I will still try to pop my
head up here on occasion. Heck, maybe I can even meet some of the ProFox
folks in person down there.

L8r,

-K-



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Re: [NF] UCLA Job & a 3DP Job...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Thanks Paul!

On 4/1/2019 1:41 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote:

Congratulations!

Paul H. Tarver


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Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 3:27 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: [NF] UCLA Job & a 3DP Job...

So - sadly - I got rejected from the UCLA job! Believe me - it kinda
freaked me out. They claimed that they had a pool of good candidates.
But, alas - can that be true??? I mean - WTF - we know there are hardly
any VFP programmers still around these days - and a good number of them
have passed away over the years! They even claimed one foolish candidate
did not even know the color of the FoxPro logo! Ugh...

As such, I kinda freaked out when I got the rejection letter -
especially as I REALLY Needed to move ASAP - as life at my sister's
house had become a disaster!!! Well, I then remembered I personally knew
the CEO's of 2 different 3DP co's down in San Diego. I reached out to
BOTH of them - and Bang - one of them got back to me in like 25min -
telling me it was perfect timing - since he was currently looking for
someone - and indeed had an open position - for a person to run &
deliver 3D Print jobs.

I am now preparing to move down to SD this next weekend and leave SF.
Hopefully it works out for the best. Of course, it will put me even
Farther away from the FoxPro realm. However, I will still try to pop my
head up here on occasion. Heck, maybe I can even meet some of the ProFox
folks in person down there.

L8r,

-K-



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Re: ProFox List Statistics for March 2019

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Yeah - that's right - you better! Time to make a New Post - just to get 
your name in the Stats for this month!!!


HA HA!

-K-

On 4/1/2019 1:37 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote:

Just as shocked to see that I was so busy last month that I fell off the
list for the first time in months! I guess I need to step up my group game!
:)

Paul H. Tarver



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Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 2:04 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: ProFox List Statistics for March 2019

Wow - will admit - was quite surprised to see my name at the top of this
list!!! I guess that means it was kinda quiet on here this past month -
or, simply - I had a big mouth this past month. Am shocked to see I
actually started 22 different posts. Somehow - I can't even recollect
starting that many! Too bad I can't access my desktop computer to check
on this - since, right now - I only have access to my laptop - which has
a bit of a different email setup - which I failed to make equivalent to
my desktop PC.

Be right back with my 1st NEW posting for the month...

-K-

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Top 20 Contributors by Number of Non-OT Posts

|Posts   Contributor   |

1.   22Kurt at VR-FX
2.   14Tracy Pearson
3.   12Ted Roche
4.   10Fletcher Johnson
5.9Dave Crozier
6.9mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
7.9Thierry Nivelet
8.7Stephen Russell
9.6Paul Newton
   10.6Alan Bourke
   11.5John Weller
   12.5Gene Wirchenko
   13.5MB Software Solutions, LLC
   14.5Vince Teachout
   15.4Charlie-gm
   16.4Frank Cazabon
   17.4Ed Leafe
   18.4Johan Nel
   19.4Koen Piller
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[NF] UCLA Job & a 3DP Job...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

So - sadly - I got rejected from the UCLA job! Believe me - it kinda 
freaked me out. They claimed that they had a pool of good candidates. 
But, alas - can that be true??? I mean - WTF - we know there are hardly 
any VFP programmers still around these days - and a good number of them 
have passed away over the years! They even claimed one foolish candidate 
did not even know the color of the FoxPro logo! Ugh...


As such, I kinda freaked out when I got the rejection letter - 
especially as I REALLY Needed to move ASAP - as life at my sister's 
house had become a disaster!!! Well, I then remembered I personally knew 
the CEO's of 2 different 3DP co's down in San Diego. I reached out to 
BOTH of them - and Bang - one of them got back to me in like 25min - 
telling me it was perfect timing - since he was currently looking for 
someone - and indeed had an open position - for a person to run & 
deliver 3D Print jobs.


I am now preparing to move down to SD this next weekend and leave SF. 
Hopefully it works out for the best. Of course, it will put me even 
Farther away from the FoxPro realm. However, I will still try to pop my 
head up here on occasion. Heck, maybe I can even meet some of the ProFox 
folks in person down there.


L8r,

-K-


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Re: Happy April Fools (and not OT!)

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Thanks for this posting Ted. If it wasn't for YOU - I would have Totally 
Forgotten today was April Fool's day - a Foolish thing to forget...


And - some of those videos were rather entertaining. The Cat mat was 
Very cute - and the Swiss Army type Glasses were pretty wild - with a 
really nicely slick 3D CG rendering of the design!


-K-

On 4/1/2019 8:06 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

Former Visual FoxPro marketing flunky, and now...

"Microsoft marketing chief Chris Capossela sent out a note to employees
last week announcing that the company had decided against doing any
public-facing stunts, because “data tells us these stunts have limited
positive impact and can actually result in unwanted news cycles.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/04/01/its-april-fools-day-heres-s-updating-depressing-comprehensive-list-pranks-hoaxes/



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Re: ProFox List Statistics for March 2019

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Wow - will admit - was quite surprised to see my name at the top of this 
list!!! I guess that means it was kinda quiet on here this past month - 
or, simply - I had a big mouth this past month. Am shocked to see I 
actually started 22 different posts. Somehow - I can't even recollect 
starting that many! Too bad I can't access my desktop computer to check 
on this - since, right now - I only have access to my laptop - which has 
a bit of a different email setup - which I failed to make equivalent to 
my desktop PC.


Be right back with my 1st NEW posting for the month...

-K-

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Top 20 Contributors by Number of Non-OT Posts

|Posts   Contributor   |

   1.   22Kurt at VR-FX
   2.   14Tracy Pearson
   3.   12Ted Roche
   4.   10Fletcher Johnson
   5.9Dave Crozier
   6.9mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
   7.9Thierry Nivelet
   8.7Stephen Russell
   9.6Paul Newton
  10.6Alan Bourke
  11.5John Weller
  12.5Gene Wirchenko
  13.5MB Software Solutions, LLC
  14.5Vince Teachout
  15.4Charlie-gm
  16.4Frank Cazabon
  17.4Ed Leafe
  18.4Johan Nel
  19.4Koen Piller
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Re: UCLA & FoxPro...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

HA ha - Nice one Mike!

Nope - its mainly FoxPro dev. in a logistics type dept. w/in UCLA. 
Downside - pay is TERRIBLE!!! Its a tad more than 1/2 my last salary! Ugh...


I can't believe they want someone with Exp. - serious VFP/FoxPro exp. - 
yet, only want to pay 60K! Although, I hear this is common in Uni's!


:-(

-K-

On 3/1/2019 1:57 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

On 2019-03-01 15:53, Vince Teachout wrote:

On 03/01/19 2:33 PM, Kurt @ Gmail wrote:
Yup - if you can believe (which I am sure you folks can - since 
Uni's at time tend to be a bit behind in Tech.) - they actually have 
a job opening with FoxPro being the core of the job. Just finished 
doing a Skype interview with 4 people. Was actually kinda fun!


They will probably be contacting me for the next phase. In which 
they also let me know I will be doing a kind of programming test - 
then a 2nd interview.


Best of luck in the new job!!!



Yes, best wishes!  What would the job title be?  A professor teaching 
"Database Fundamentals 101" or "Database Applications Made Easy with 
VFP"    


:-)


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UCLA & FoxPro...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Yup - if you can believe (which I am sure you folks can - since Uni's at 
time tend to be a bit behind in Tech.) - they actually have a job 
opening with FoxPro being the core of the job. Just finished doing a 
Skype interview with 4 people. Was actually kinda fun!


They will probably be contacting me for the next phase. In which they 
also let me know I will be doing a kind of programming test - then a 2nd 
interview.


At this point - I kinda figure that they will Have to progress to the 
next step with me!


Just figured some of you folks might find this tidbit of info. interesting!

-K-



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Re: [NF] Learn about Stored Procedures

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Holy Crap Stephen - that's a DAMN Funny comic! I love it!!! Even my son 
is familiar with XKCD!


To make my reply even MORE Interesting - and a comment I am DAMN SURE 
that Ed would appreciate - truth is - my son is a bit of a computer 
expert now, in some way. Since, you see - he's actually a Python 
programmer! And, has been using Python for over 2 years - and has done a 
TON of programming in Python for Condensed Physics Matter research and 
data analysis!


Although - honestly - I should make a New Thread about this. Since there 
is a bit of additional info I could relate about it!


-K-

On 2/28/2019 6:45 AM, Stephen Russell wrote:

Sprocs are great because they make it much harder to hack into your backend
data.  Nothing new here, right?

https://www.xkcd.com/327/


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Re: false news....

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Uh oh Ted - this kinda comment could push this thread into the Devious 
world of the OT Territory!!!


For the heck of it - I Googled the term - and I found it kind funny what 
was written up in the Urbandictionary:


"Those Muricans think they can just push everyone around. What abunch 
ofarrogant 
imperialisticbastards 
!"


Sure sounds like a word that Stephen Colbert would use a Lot!

;-)
-K-

On 2/25/2019 9:00 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

Ur either Muricans, or your not.;)



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Re: Webfaction question

[Kurt @ Gmail]

If you just want to do simple websites - have you considered Wix? I 
don't use it - but, I think I have heard good things about it!


-K-

On 2/23/2019 6:20 PM, Ken McGinnis wrote:
I just spent over 4 hours on digitalocean. I signed up. I was 
impressed by reviews that it is good. It seem to be using the Amazon 
AWS resources? not sure. Anyway I spent hours trying to figure it out. 
First, I admit that I have not set up web sites in over 15 years, but 
I manage over 10 web sites on Webfaction and they all work fine - 
until recently when I can't seem to access files in a subfolder.


Digitalocean.com uses something they call 'projects', 'droplets' and 
'spaces'. Sorry, but I guess I am too old and I have not kept up. 
Those mean nothing to me. Projects I guess I can figure out. but 
droplets? Google (my wonder answer to all questions) does not give me 
anything that I can understand.


Spaces? I guess that is a 'space' on the server? I was able to set up 
a 'space' (whatever that is) and I could copy files to it using their 
utility. All that is fairly obvious. After getting that far, i was 
able to ask Google a question it could answer and I found other users 
who had the same issue that I had. What I wanted was internet storage 
with a URL that worked in a browser. Is that asking too much? Another 
'answer' to someone's question stated that there was no concept of a 
subfolder?? That simply makes no sense to me. So all the files must be 
in the root of the space? crazy. I know I must be missing something.


Maybe I am getting too old for this stuff? I am a good programmer in 
fox for over 30 years and I have designed over 20 web sites using hand 
coded html including a web site for my kids middle school. It works on 
Webfaction except for this new issue since they sold out to GoDaddy? 
You would think I could get through all these new terms (new to me). I 
must have read a dozen tutorials and websites with questions and 
answers and it simply 'does not compute'.


If anyone else tries to use digitalocean for a simple html website and 
is successful, I would like to know how, a link, anything that would 
help.


Ken

On 2/22/2019 12:45 PM, Malcolm Greene wrote:

Hi Ken,

I may have been one of those cheerleaders that steered you to 
Webfaction. Webfaction was great back in the day, but over the past 
few years they seemed to coast on their success. I'm no fan of 
GoDaddy - if they're the new owner, then Webfaction is doomed.


Like Tracy, I've heard good things about Digital Ocean. Amazon AWS 
also offers a competitively priced Webfaction equivalent called 
Lightsail. Let us know who you finally end up with.


Malcolm


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Re: Foxite?

[Kurt @ Gmail]

That reminds me - and makes me chuckle. Did you know that FaceBook has a 
special dev lab as part of the co. - and that its actually named Area 
404?!? Well - its true! I've been there - was visiting with a buddy of 
mine who is a manager there - and he does hi-tech research & dev. as he 
has a background in robotics & electronics - and actually has not One 
but Two PhD's!


-K-

On 2/21/2019 4:32 AM, Richard Kaye wrote:

Seems to be down. Last few times I tried to get to the site it 404ed.

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Subject: Foxite?

Is Foxite still up and running or has it been retired?

Can’t seem to get access to a couple of articles I bookmarked some time ago.

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Re: Name your lnaguages.

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Yeah - some pretty hysterical responses by some of the folks replying to 
that Tweet!


But - Wait - I didn't see a Tweet reply from Ed - and I know he's a BIG 
Tweeter!!!


:-)

-K-

On 2/6/2019 7:06 AM, Fred Taylor wrote:

LOL!

Fred


On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 8:02 PM Stephen Russell 
wrote:


https://twitter.com/shanselman/status/1092319147118247936

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Re: Google API for Geocoding ... Again

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The pay for this gig is So Small - that it would not be worth it to pay 
for any SW to assist with this task.


As is, I found simple code to allow me to open a URL within a Browser 
window/tab from within VFP. And, I did Google Mapping between locations 
for directions - and figured I could just pass this as a URL. So - I 
made this little app that allows me to plug in up to 4 locations (as the 
woman would make multiple stops) - with the start & end of her trip 
being her home location. So, although its rather simple - it works for 
my purposes.


Thank you everyone for your input on this!

-K-

On 2/4/2019 6:39 AM, Chris Davis wrote:

Not sure if this will help as only glancing at these emails but in vfp I do 
visit the following URL

http://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/geocode/json?address=##ADDRESS##

using either vfpconnection or the Microsoft html thing ( I can be more specific 
if required)

the ##ADDRESS## is replaced with a postcode for instance

http://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/geocode/json?address=WS98ER

You used to be able to do this all day long (there was a throttle that kicked 
in at some point based on your IP address but the limit was something like 5000 
calls a day)

These days I believe you need an API key which you would need to pass in with 
the query to get your JSON back with the lat and lng in.

I believe you need a paid for account now but you get $200 dollars usage credit 
each month for the API which I think for modest usage is plenty.




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Sent: Monday, 28 January 2019 19:27
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Google API for Geocoding ... Again

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 10:25 AM Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:


Ok - yes, I'm dredging up a VERY Old thread here!

So, here's the deal. A woman I worked with for this Jewish Holiday
Pop-up shop here in SF this past late Nov./early Dec. - she wants me
to do a kind of Admin task for her. She's going to give me a
spreadsheet of locations - and wants me to use Google Maps to find the
distances traveled. She then has to note the distances back into the 
spreadsheet.
It may have to do with reimbursement based upon mileage.



I did something like this back in 2008 or so and I'm pretty darn sure I posted 
it here but I'll be darned if I can find it. Maybe your Search-Fu is better 
than mine so you might be able to dig it up.

I used MS Access to do the work but it did the exact thing you are trying to do.


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Re: Google API for Geocoding ... Again

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Ok - yes, I'm dredging up a VERY Old thread here!

So, here's the deal. A woman I worked with for this Jewish Holiday 
Pop-up shop here in SF this past late Nov./early Dec. - she wants me to 
do a kind of Admin task for her. She's going to give me a spreadsheet of 
locations - and wants me to use Google Maps to find the distances 
traveled. She then has to note the distances back into the spreadsheet. 
It may have to do with reimbursement based upon mileage.


As such, was hoping I could potentially whip up something Simple to help 
me automate the process - so, I was looking at this particular 
discussion thread.


So - Ted - I was curious about your hack. I actually HAVE a LONG Time 
ago done something similar - to launch IE. But, for the life of me - I 
no longer remember what the VFP code was to do exactly that. Can you 
maybe throw me a bone here on how to launch IE from inside VFP? I 
suspect it DOES have something to do with the Run command in VFP...



TIA,

-K-

On 9/13/2016 6:46 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

A hideously-ugly hack that might do the trick would be to automate an
IE browser session, feed it the URL, and parse the source result
searching first for "location" then for the nearest "lat" and "long"
in the resultant source.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 6:44 AM, Dave Crozier  wrote:

Fellow Gentlemen,
I posted a request about doing geocoding requests  to receive back a Lat/Long 
dataset for various addresses a few weeks ago and now find that Google do in 
fact provide a Geocoding service:

https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/geocoding/start

The responses back from the requests are all JSON from a Java Script API run by 
Google. I have looked over Rick's Westwind site to try and get a start on using 
this method to get back a JSON response but seem to be getting nowhere fast. Anyone 
got any ideas on a simple & neat way of retrieving this data back using VFP 
programmatically? Either that or anyone know a free Geocoding site that would 
handle up to 100 name and address calls per day ideally by sending a text file and 
receiving one back which could be automated from the VFP end.

Never even looked at Web services in anger before so it all seems a little 
baffling and terribly long winded at the moment unless I am missing something 
obvious.

Note I don't want to have to drop into an intermediate program/language to 
accomplish this, if possible.

Dave


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Re: [NF] Looking for a little Python/Django help

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I'm actually going to read your Blog post - since, if you can believe it 
- I'm actually starting to teach a class to kids, in an after school 
type program. One class is 3D Design/3D Printing - but, the other class 
is Python based.  Am also going to look around at some older threads 
here talking about Python - so I can truly get a quick jump start in 
Python. Of course, needless to say - I need only stay 1 or 2 steps ahead 
of the kids!


And - if ANYONE has a suggestion for something Cool I could teach the 
kids in Python - feel free to give me a shout out!


Fletcher - sorry to Hi-Jack your thread. At least its not a total 
hi-jacking and steering it into a wrong direction...


I give you back the steering wheel now!

-K-

On 1/24/2019 4:55 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 24, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Fletcher Johnson  
wrote:

My most interesting python question is related to the "file... import ..." 
command.  Apparently, you can't specify a parent folder in the file portion, just the 
current one.  But there is a way to designate where other files may be found, I just 
haven't figured out where that gets set, especially when using environments.

You can't specify operating system paths in the import command; those modules 
need to be in known locations where Python can find them. When you install 
something (usually with `pip install`), it is placed in the 'site-packages' 
directory of your environment. I started to write a big long explanation here, 
but decided that it would be better as a blog post:

https://blog.leafe.com/using-a-python-virtual-environment/

Of course, if you have any questions about that, let me know.


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[NF] Re: This is a test please ignore.

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Alan - its VERY Hard to Ignore this kind of Thread! Why? Because too 
many people find it Fodder for Humorous jokes. Or, then there are folks 
like Ted who like to take a truly OCD Tech twist in making a reply.


Nice one Ted!

-K-

On 1/21/2019 12:46 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:

A test.

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

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Find a new job!

;-)

-K-

On 1/10/2019 12:01 PM, Eric Selje wrote:

I didn't get this. What should I do?

;)

E

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:59 AM Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. 
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I see both mine and others

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On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 16:29 Dave Crozier 
Ed,
Thanks I'll investigate further!

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Sent: 10 January 2019 14:24
To: ProFox Mailing List 
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On Jan 10, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Dave Crozier 

wrote:

I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart

from my own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look

please

as it seems to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all

my

emails as davec at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them
under my domain name dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under

the

old alias..

Your account is set to receive your own posts, so I assume that it is
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make your own posts show up. Some clients see the reply as a dupe (since
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Re: VFP Work in San Diego???

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Ed - thanks again for your input. I actually did reach Barb - and 
connected via LinkedIn. Only to find that, sadly, she lost her job this 
past Nov. - and is now struggling looking for work as I am! And, she did 
indeed remember you.


So - thanks again for the suggestion.

Kurt

On 1/8/2019 12:53 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 8, 2019, at 2:14 PM, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:

So - was curious to know if any of you are located in SD - I believe someone is.

IIRC, Barb Peisch is in San Diego: http://peisch.com/


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+1.

On 1/9/2019 2:36 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote:

+1.

I'd chip in too!

Paul H. Tarver
Email: p...@tpcqpc.com



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Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay


Well, if ever needed, do a GoFundMe (or better site) campaign and we'll
all chip in.  I know I'd have no problem throwing a few bucks at this as
a "thank you" for such a great resource.




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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

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Too late - I already replied back to your last response! But - i know 
what happened - you read things in order - and replied immediately 
instead of seeing the other replies to the thread...


-K-

On 1/9/2019 12:58 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

On 2019-01-09 14:13, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:


    The numbers do not make sense.  Does that "100K" mean 100,000 
messages or 100 kilobytes?  How does 280 relate to 133,000?


It’s a monthly limit on the number of messages. And as Ted pointed
out, each post gets sent to each subscriber: 475 as of last May,
though it’s down to 474 as of Jan1
(https://leafe.com/archives/msg/512459). So that’s where the 133K
comes from.



Ah, I see this now.  Please disregard my last post.


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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Mike - yeah, both Ed & Ted already answered that Q.

Issue is - its the monthly emails Times the total # of subscribers - 
which equates to the large 133K # total!


Ed - I really do NOT think you should use this service - since its 
Pricey - and there's NO Reason why you should pay for the service when 
these forums don't even Net you ANY $$$!


Also - you do this same similar forum for Python - don't you? Which, if 
so, increases total # of emails, and thus the monthly cost. Or, maybe 
the cost is Per forum type - not grouped together...


My 2.05 centavos - upgraded for inflation...

-K-

On 1/9/2019 12:51 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

On 2019-01-09 13:51, Ed Leafe wrote:

Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my
domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket
blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital
Ocean).

I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun
(https://www.mailgun.com/). So far it seems to be running well, but if
any of you on the receiving end of things notices a problem, please
let me know.

One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent
is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest
number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about
133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month
(ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at
least.



First and foremost, thanks again Ed for doing this list!!!

Help me out with that math on the above.  280 emails in May...that 
multiplied by 12 months equates to 3360 emails for the year.  Or is 
multiplied by the number of folks subscribed to arrive at your 133,000 
number?



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Thank you Ed for the heads up. I will go check out her website momentarily.

Regards,
Kurt

On 1/8/2019 12:53 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 8, 2019, at 2:14 PM, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:

So - was curious to know if any of you are located in SD - I believe someone is.

IIRC, Barb Peisch is in San Diego: http://peisch.com/


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VFP Work in San Diego???

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Hello there folks,

I thought I would ping the group about the above Subject line question. 
Actually did a quick search of my own ProFox archives before sending 
this out - but, it turned up empty for SD(No - NOT Sugar-Daddies)/San Diego!


So - was curious to know if any of you are located in SD - I believe 
someone is. And, if anyone knows of any possible VFP work down there. I 
know some folks will chime in and suggest I should be looking for work 
in other tech/programming languages. But, seriously - no need for that - 
as I know what many will say. Am just curious to know about VFP work for 
now - since its much easier for me to get with my background.


I've actually been searching for 3DP work in the Silicon Valley area - 
but, not getting a good response to my applications.


TIA,
Kurt

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Re: ProFox List Statistics for 2018

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OK - I have to admit - this is the 1st time I've seen a thread here 
going down the path of Latin! Pretty funny. Wasn't sure the language - 
but, Google Translate knew immediately. Enough talk about Kings!


:-)

-K-

On 1/3/2019 8:24 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:26 AM Jean Laeremans 
wrote:


lex dura sed lex


sed lex est rex



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Re: ProFox List Statistics for 2018

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Nice one Gene

On 1/2/2019 10:32 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
At 22:01 2019-01-02, List Administrator Account  
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[snip]


Total [OT] Posts: 1
(Down 97.67% from 2017)


 First entry of the year for "Hilarity in Statistics"?

[snip]

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Re: REINSTALL FOX PRO 9

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Tracy - sounds like Gary tried VFP6 to then do VFP9 - but, seems - VFP6 
won't install!


Gary - what does it insist on VS - just to install VFP6? I never 
installed VS in order to install VFP. Although - I haven't touched a 
VFP6 install in Many Moons! And, on my personal PC & laptop - I don't 
even use Win10 - still w/Win7 & 8.


-K-

On 12/10/2018 7:16 PM, Tracy Pearson wrote:

I've not needed to install an older version of FoxPro to install the FoxPro 9 
upgrade on Windows 10.

HTH,
Tracy

On December 10, 2018 10:13:20 PM EST, GARY  JEURINK  
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Help, my computer running win 10 and foxpr 9 crashed. I paid a fortune
to
recover the old c-drive. Now a new computer won't let be load visual
studio
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Re: Fwd: Urgent requirement for the position of : Programmer IV@ Torrance CA

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This is TOTALLY BOGUS! The phone number below for this job - you call it 
- and its a disconnected #! How the Heck can a stupid recruiting firm 
operate like that - using a phone # in an email for a # that doesn't 
even work!?!?! That's just Insane!


-K-

On 11/29/2018 3:14 PM, Richard Quilhot wrote:

Anyone looking for VFP gig in CA?
Rick Q
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Re: Urgent requirement for the position of : Programmer IV@ Torrance CA

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Ed - You're pretty funny! How Ironic - since I actually already applied 
to this position - which was posted on Indeed - and I got NO REPLY back 
from this Cor-Tech folks who posted it! I actually started looking for a 
Temp. place to live whilst down there - since this is ONLY a contract 
job supposedly lasting 3-4 months. Of course, I know its VFP and MS SQL 
- which would make me a perfect fit!


So - Richard - you know someone personally in regards to the hiring for 
this Gig?


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On Nov 29, 2018, at 5:14 PM, Richard Quilhot  wrote:

Anyone looking for VFP gig in CA?

Oh, Kurt? It's not close, but it's in the same state...

https://leafe.com/archives/msg/512151


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Re: [ADMIN] Problem with list archives

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Yeah Ed - I know. I've heard you mention that a couple times. So, I 
guess I'm in the same club now. Previously working w/Fox - yet no more - 
but, still hanging with the Gang!


-K-

On 11/28/2018 8:05 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Nov 28, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:

Look at that! Glad I could be of some limited use here - even though I'm no 
longer working in Fox - at least not right now...

Heh, I haven’t had a copy of Fox for over a decade. So don’t feel bad.  ;-)

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Re: [ADMIN] Problem with list archives

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Look at that! Glad I could be of some limited use here - even though I'm 
no longer working in Fox - at least not right now...


-K-

On 11/27/2018 6:41 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Nov 27, 2018, at 6:59 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

However, when clicking the "View entire thread" 
(https://leafe.com/archives/full_thread/506233), the site then failed and just said "No 
results were found. Please try again."

Since there really isn't a guaranteed way of tracing a thread, since In-Reply-To: headers 
are notoriously unreliable, the "View Entire Thread" relies on parsing the 
subject of the current email, and finding others that match. It's a hack that works most 
of the time, but obviously not in this case.

Kurt's solution (doing a new search by subject) is the preferred method in 
these cases.


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Re: [NF] The real Python

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Hey there Ed,

Its good to see you pop your head in on this thread. Especially since I 
know of your own deep appreciation for Python - and I kind of expected 
you would reply.


Interesting stuff you posted indeed - I will definitely have to check 
out some of those links!


-K-

On 11/27/2018 6:37 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Nov 27, 2018, at 6:32 PM, Ted Roche  wrote:

It must be true; I read it on the internet,

https://docs.python.org/3/faq/general.html#why-is-it-called-python

The Python Package Index, which is the repository for 3rd-party packages, was originally 
named the "Cheese Shop", after this famous Monty Python sketch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0
https://wiki.python.org/moin/CheeseShop

In fact, https://cheeseshop.python.org will redirect to https://pypi.org/

The editor included with Python is named IDLE 
(https://docs.python.org/3/library/idle.html), in honor of Monty Python's Eric 
Idle.


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Re: [NF] The real Python

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Come on Bad Stephen - don't be so cruel! Lighten up a little!!!

Or - WAIT - Hold the Presses - was that actually your attempt at Humor???

Dang - it's been WAY Too long since we got to hang out and drinks some 
Brew together!


-K-

On 11/27/2018 6:28 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

Still a schmuck but please keep up the good work.

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:11 PM Gene Wirchenko  wrote:


At 13:37 2018-11-27, Stephen Russell  wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rExOUynZM

   Ah, yes, another diatribe about the programming language.  I
think I will post about Monty Python being better.  First, I will
have a look ...

   Oh.

   Carry on then.  A NSFW might have been a good idea, but "...
you're past them now." -- Monty Python and the Holy Grail, record's
opening introduction, the part about offensive language

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Re: [NF] The real Python

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Gene - you're pretty funny - but, generally that is the case. Yes - I 
will admit - if you watch ALL the video - its really NSFW. But, then 
again - I'm unemployed, and sitting in my "room" watching this video - 
with nobody to bother me. So - I didn't even think about the NSFW thing!


It was some funny stuff though...

BAD STEPHEN

:-)

-K-

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At 13:37 2018-11-27, Stephen Russell  wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rExOUynZM


 Ah, yes, another diatribe about the programming language.  I 
think I will post about Monty Python being better.  First, I will have 
a look ...


 Oh.

 Carry on then.  A NSFW might have been a good idea, but "... 
you're past them now." -- Monty Python and the Holy Grail, record's 
opening introduction, the part about offensive language


Sincerely,

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I actually did a search - for subject phrase of "PROTECTING YOUR 
DISTRIBUTED CODE" - and it seemed to bring up everything. I know the 
link you mentioned to "View entire thread"- but, the other worked - as a 
work-around...


-K-

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I wanted to review past posts for protecting your distributed EXEs. I 
recall I asked about this a couple years ago.  I found this in my 
'armadillo' search:  https://leafe.com/archives/msg/506233


However, when clicking the "View entire thread" 
(https://leafe.com/archives/full_thread/506233), the site then failed 
and just said "No results were found. Please try again."


(Flashing the big "E" in the sky for Ed Leafe to come save the day 
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Re: [NF] The real Python

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Dang Ted - Ur right! Seems to be Real! But, What the Hell - U just KNOW 
the web is Filled with Fake news! Just ask the POTUS...


(OK - now I am digress into evil OT Territory - I shall button my lips 
up now!)


-K-

On 11/27/2018 4:32 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 7:24 PM Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:


No Kidding! IS that right? I wouldn't doubt it - considering some of the
humor from Techies! You should see the names of the rooms inside of Area
404 (which itself is a joke) - the hi-tech lab inside FaceBook! I was
there visiting a buddy of mine - who is a manager there. Its pretty wild.


It must be true; I read it on the internet,

https://docs.python.org/3/faq/general.html#why-is-it-called-python



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No Kidding! IS that right? I wouldn't doubt it - considering some of the 
humor from Techies! You should see the names of the rooms inside of Area 
404 (which itself is a joke) - the hi-tech lab inside FaceBook! I was 
there visiting a buddy of mine - who is a manager there. Its pretty wild.


-K-

On 11/27/2018 4:20 PM, Frank Cazabon wrote:

Python (the programming language) was apparently named after Monty python's 
flying Circus (the TV show).

On 27 November 2018 20:07:56 GMT-04:00, "Kurt @ Gmail"  
wrote:

I don't get it! What does it have to do with Programming???

Ha ha - I know - its just a joke. There were some funny stuff. Like -
"Its just a Flesh wound..."!

-K-


On 11/27/2018 1:37 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

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I don't get it! What does it have to do with Programming???

Ha ha - I know - its just a joke. There were some funny stuff. Like - 
"Its just a Flesh wound..."!


-K-


On 11/27/2018 1:37 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5rExOUynZM




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Happy Turkey Day...

[Kurt @ Gmail]

...to all of you that are here State Side! OF course, my apologies to 
those of you who are Vegan. You know how PC people are here in Cali!


-K-


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Re: Test

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Damn - I just looked over Dave's original message - and I swear - I 
could NOT find the Partridge! Am I missing something Ted???


Dave - good to see you Yakking it up!

-K-


On 11/8/2018 3:21 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

Yak, indeed! Test successful.

What a message footer, though!

I know it's your company's policy and not yours, but there's a legal
contract, a disclaimer, a message about viruses that doesn't apply to plain
text mail, headers for three separate MIME sections, two JPEGS, four PNGs,
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Re: CAN You Hear the Silence???

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Thanks for the follow-up Ted. I did notice that you use GMail, although 
I didn't notice till after I wrote the below reply.


Thanks again for the reply - and I'm glad to finally be back here again!

-K-


On 11/7/2018 10:14 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

I've been GMail only for a couple of years now and it seems to work fine.
Some people's emails don't come through (like Yahoo!) because they don't
follow the proper rules, but mostly, it works okay.


On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 1:02 PM Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:


Hey there Ted,

Turns out - it wasn't my email reader. It seems that Optonline.net was
being Black listed, which I found out - since I reached out directly to
Ed about the problem. However, I got busy with looking for work and
failed to followup and switch to another email address of mine. Well -
this has now been rectified - as I'm now using my GMail account.
Hopefully it now works (as I think I remember people reporting problems
in the past with GMail access to ProFox. Will See...

-K-


On 6/26/2018 11:24 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

ProTip: visit the Leafe forum archives to see if there are email
messages you're not getting in your defective email reader.



On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt at VR-FX 

wrote:

Wow - was surprised not to receive ANY Forum postings since 6/16! Has it
really been that silent - or have I been unsubscribed for some reason?
Hmmm...


-K-



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Big Changes & Fox Work in SF Bay Area?

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey there folks,

Yeah - I've been MIA for a little while now. I struggled to find work in 
NYC area - and things just went from Bad to Worse! So - towards the end 
of Sept. I made a big life change. Packed up my car - putting most of my 
life in Storage - then hit the road and drove West Old Man...


About 8 days later I arrived in San Francisco - where I am now living at 
my sister's place. So, I've been looking for work out here. Even applied 
to a job at "X" - the special hi-tech lab of Google. They had a job for 
a 3D Printing specialist. I would have been Perfect for the job - as I 
had everything they wanted. But, maybe they saw me as too old, working 
too many years, and probably thought I would need more $$$ than they 
wanted to pay for the position - and, as such - I never heard back from 
them. I even had not One but TWO Internal referrals - but, alas, that 
didn't help...


I'm even looking for possible FoxPro work - which is the main reason I 
am making this posting.


Anyone know of any FoxPro work in the Cali area? Preferably in the SF 
Bay area. Although, I will consider elsewhere in Cali.


TIA!
-K-

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Re: CAN You Hear the Silence???

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Hey there Ted,

Turns out - it wasn't my email reader. It seems that Optonline.net was 
being Black listed, which I found out - since I reached out directly to 
Ed about the problem. However, I got busy with looking for work and 
failed to followup and switch to another email address of mine. Well - 
this has now been rectified - as I'm now using my GMail account. 
Hopefully it now works (as I think I remember people reporting problems 
in the past with GMail access to ProFox. Will See...


-K-


On 6/26/2018 11:24 AM, Ted Roche wrote:

ProTip: visit the Leafe forum archives to see if there are email
messages you're not getting in your defective email reader.



On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Kurt at VR-FX  wrote:

Wow - was surprised not to receive ANY Forum postings since 6/16! Has it
really been that silent - or have I been unsubscribed for some reason?
Hmmm...


-K-



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