Re: [qubes-users] qvm-usb is broken in qubes 4 / debian-10

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Sep 8, 2021, 11:12 by vita...@premium-security.com:

> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-usb a myvm sys-usb:2-3
> Device attach failed: /usr/lib/qubes/usb-import: 50: 
> /usr/lib/qubes/usb-import: cannot open /sys/devices/platform/vhci_hcd/status: 
> No such fileNo unused port found! VM: "work-term" File: 
> "/usr/lib/qubes/usb-import" Version Control: 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-app-linux-usb-proxy/blob/master/src/usb-import/usr/lib/qubes/usb-import:
>  81: /usr/lib/qubes/usb-import: cannot create 
> /sys/devices/platform/vhci_hcd/attach: Directory nonexistent
> [user@dom0 ~]$
>
I think you are experiencing this issue

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/6868

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[qubes-users] draw.io desktop running from a template

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This is a bit of a long shot but is there anyone using draw.io / diagrams.net 
 via the desktop app installed in a template.

I've got it installed in a debian template but when you launch it from an appVM 
 it does not see any of the available templates.

would love to hear others experience 

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes updater icon never gets cleared

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Dec 5, 2020, 11:16 by qubes-users@googlegroups.com:

> It happened to me as well and is most probably an issue with the pulseaudio.
>
> Does it happen with fedora-32 template only or is it the case for other 
> templates too?
>
> If only with fedora-32, try to directly open the fedora-32 template and 
> execute:
> $ sudo dnf update
>
> If it says anything about pulseaudio, try to execute:
>
> $ sudo dnf update --best --allowerasing
>
> This should solve the issue.
>

I have the same persistent notification due to pulseaudio updates.   Do you 
recall  what packages it said it will remove when you run with --best 
--allowerasing.

I am told it will remove

Removing dependent packages:
- pulseaudio-qubes
- qubes-vm-recommended

Which at least the second one sounds important for qubes operation  so feeling 
a bit cautious


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[qubes-users] AppVM colors not matching what is set

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Hi Qubers

I  has a an odd problem with AppVM colors.   One particular AppVM, lets call it 
"personal" as that's what it is called :)   is set to green in qubes manager 
but all window decorations are showing as gray, except for the top level 
"personal" menu item in the xfce menu which shows the correct green,  all the 
applications under it are gray though

Is there any way to force a reset of an AppVM color so that the programs run in 
it inherit the color?   

I've tried doing it through the Qubes Manager and changing to a different 
color,  sometimes rebooting, sometimes not  but it never changes.

Running Qubes 4.0.3

Cubit

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Re: [qubes-users] Can’t download large files

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Aug 7, 2020, 20:22 by shamaarmarti...@gmail.com:

> I’m trying to download a 1.6gb file but after it’s complete I get:
>
> there is not enough room on the disk to save /tmp/mozilla_user0/fN+pjzFx.part
>
> I made sure the download was directed to another file after download in 
> Firefox but it still keeps prioritizing the tmp folder. I then attempt to 
> unmount:
> sudo umount /tmp  - -force
> Device is busy
> I tried deleting the mozilla_user0 and the system created the folder that’s 
> only 1gb
>
> Is there any other way to fix this?
>

Make sure the allocated space for the AppVM is large enough.  By default an 
AppVM get created with 2GB of user space.

Open Qubes Manager,   open the settings for the AppVM and increase "Private 
storage Max size" as needed.

cubit

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[qubes-users] USB headset, how to control volume?

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Hello.

I have a logitec USB headset which is plugged into the laptop and then 
connected to my "chat" AppVM.

The audio and mic work in so much that I can hear and be heard. I can not 
however figure out how to control the sound level.

At the moment it's so loud I can not leave the headphones on my ears.

I've trued the in-line volume control,  the dom0 pulseaudio volume control,  
Manager and Preferences but can not change the level

Is there any way to control the sound level once it is passed to an AppVM?    
It would also be nice to control my mic levels but so far people have not 
complained about me being too quiet so not as pressing.

Cu

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes Updater doesn't update

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Mar 20, 2020, 20:21 by qubes-users@googlegroups.com:

> Updating Debian templates with the Qube Manager just works, but the problem 
> persists.
>
> Maybe something bugging in my config, or has anybody experienced something 
> similar? Any advice what to do?
>

I think it's a bigger bug, not just you.    I have the exact same problem and 
there was a similar thread a week or two ago where others had problem too


¬cubit

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[qubes-users] Qubes' Thunderbird Add-On

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With the recent upgrade to Thunderbird 68.2  and the depreciation of old style 
add-ons.   Are there any plans to bring back the Qubes Add-on to allow opening 
of email in dispVM as needed/by default?

Cu-

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[qubes-users] no DNS resolving being passed to sys-firewall or other appVMs after updates?

[cubit]

I am not sure if this is related to recent updates but after updating today and 
doing a reboot, my sys-firewall and other appVMs are not getting DNS resolving 
working.

- sys-net (fedora30) starts up with out an issue, can resolve and connect to 
the internet
- sys-firewall starts up and gets an IP address,  it can ping sys-net and hosts 
on the internet by IP but can not by name.  
- appVMs are the same as sys-firewall

on sys-firewall and appVMs I have two entries in /etc/resolv.conf 10.139.1.1 
and .2   I am not sure what these IPs are as they do not show up in qubes 
manager and I can not ping them.  

IPs all start at 10.139.0.5 which is sys-net

The only way I can get to the internet is to use Tor or VPN which don't rely on 
the system DNS.   

Is anyone else experiencing this,  does anyone know what 1.1 and 1.2 hosts are 
or how I can get DNS up and running again?

cubit

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[qubes-users] Re: qubes-update-gui always has "updates available for 1 qubes"

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Mar 5, 2019, 8:26 PM by cubit@tutanota.c

> Is there any way to see what qubes the qubes-update-gui tool thinks there are 
> updates for.  Ever since installing Qubes 4.0  the gui has been telling me 
> there is "updates available for 1 qubes"  even when the gui shows there is 
> not^1.    Even manually selecting all listed quebes and running an update on 
> them all does not get rid of this notice.
>
> Is there somewhere on the command line I can look to see what 
> qubes-update-gui tool things needs updating and more importantly, clear it :-)
>
>
> 1: This was also happening before I pause checking of some templates as per 
> this post: > 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/|sort:date/qubes-users/V1YpSYsUiwA/8kt2j4BQBAAJ
>  
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/|sort:date/qubes-users/V1YpSYsUiwA/8kt2j4BQBAAJ>
>
> Cubit
>

To follow up,  the latest dom0 updates (24-48hrs ago) appear to have fixed this.

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[qubes-users] Touchpad scroll speed under 4.0.1

[cubit]

Hello Qubes-users

I'm running an x230 with 4.0.1 and am trying to figure out how I can make the 
two finger scroll gesture on the touchpad more responsive

Under 3.2 this worked very well and scrolling was responsive,  so much you 
could "flick" a page and it'd scroll for a little on its own.  Since updating 
to 4.0.1 the responsiveness of two finger scroll gesture on the x230 has become 
very slow where a full swipe of the touchpad will scroll about a 12th of the 
screen at a time.  USB mouse works perfectly

Does anyone experience the same thing or have suggestion on how to make it more 
friendly?

Cubit


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[qubes-users] qubes-update-gui always has "updates available for 1 qubes"

[cubit]

Is there any way to see what qubes the qubes-update-gui tool thinks there are 
updates for.  Ever since installing Qubes 4.0  the gui has been telling me 
there is "updates available for 1 qubes"  even when the gui shows there is 
not^1.    Even manually selecting all listed quebes and running an update on 
them all does not get rid of this notice.

Is there somewhere on the command line I can look to see what qubes-update-gui 
tool things needs updating and more importantly, clear it :-)


1: This was also happening before I pause checking of some templates as per 
this post: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/|sort:date/qubes-users/V1YpSYsUiwA/8kt2j4BQBAAJ
 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/|sort:date/qubes-users/V1YpSYsUiwA/8kt2j4BQBAAJ>

Cubit



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Re: [qubes-users] QUBES_GPG_AUTOACCEPT not being honored in 4.0

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Mar 4, 2019, 3:10 PM by un...@thirdeyesecurity.org:

> What shell are you using in gpg?
> Try putting the export line in .profile and restart gpg. Any different?
>

That did the job.   I had it originally listed as I mentioned in .bash_profile 
which was sourced by .bashrc which was sourced by .profile  but I guess 
something went wrong along the chain.

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[qubes-users] QUBES_GPG_AUTOACCEPT not being honored in 4.0

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Following a move from Qubes 3.2  to 4.0.1 I am struggling to get the split key 
gpg to honor QUBES_GPG_AUTOACCEPT any more 

The rest of the split key functionality works as expected but it's very 
frustrating the have QUBES_GPG_AUTOACCEPT default to 300 despite having been 
manually changed to 86400


Relevant config riles.   I hope I did not forget to include any important.

.bash_profile in vault

user@vault:~$ more .bash_profile
export QUBES_GPG_AUTOACCEPT=86400


gpg-split-domain in work

user@work:~$ more /rw/config/gpg-split-domain
vault


qubes.Gpg in dom0

[user@dom0 ~]$ more /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.Gpg
work  vault  allow
$anyvm  $anyvm  ask



Cubit

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Re: [qubes-users] "Qubes Update" tool - can you ignore a template

[cubit]

Feb 25, 2019, 3:10 PM by un...@thirdeyesecurity.org:

> The services tab doesn't show services which have the default settings,
> which can be confusing.
> Use the drop-down menu to select the service, use the "+" button to add
> it to the bottom pane, and then deselect the check box. Click OK and
> you're done.
>
> You can set global settings from the System-GlobalSettings menu item,
> and there is option to "Disable checking for updates for all qubes"
>

Thank you for that


Cubit

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Re: [qubes-users] "Qubes Update" tool - can you ignore a template

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Feb 25, 2019, 2:17 PM by un...@thirdeyesecurity.org:

> Disable the qubes-update-check service.
> You can do this from qube manager or using qvm-service.
> I disable that service everywhere.
>

Thank you unman.   I can see how to do this via qvm-service but looking at the 
qubes manager gui, I don't see the option.  Is there a particular tab it should 
be listed under?

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[qubes-users] "Qubes Update" tool - can you ignore a template

[cubit]

In the Qubes Update tool under 4.x,  is it possible to set a template to be 
ignored for update checking?

The reason for this is I like to keep the default installed "fedora-29" 
template unused and work off a clone  "fedora live" and in a worst case 
scenario I can use the "fedora-29" taplate to make new clones if that latter 
breaks or I want a template with out all the software I installed in "fedora 
live"

The problem with this, as I never update "fedora-29" it always has updates 
available

 Cubit

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Re: [qubes-users] qvm-trim-template hung now stuck with remnants of the process

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13. Nov 2018 11:09 by un...@thirdeyesecurity.org 
<mailto:un...@thirdeyesecurity.org>:

>>
>> Thank you for the suggestion unman, when I do the `--just-db` step outlined 
>> it tells me
>>
>> A VM with the name 'trim-whonix-gw-14' does not exist in the system.
>>
>> I've also tried this before deleting the AppVM that trim creates but the 
>> error is the same
>>
>> CuBit
>
> Try virsh -c xen:/// undefine trim-whonix-gw-14
>




Success!  Thank you.




is it just a case of running that and rm'ing the appvm directory to remove a 
trim appvm?  I did not see any of the menu items being created during the 
process






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Re: [qubes-users] qvm-trim-template hung now stuck with remnants of the process

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13. Nov 2018 00:46 by un...@thirdeyesecurity.org 
<mailto:un...@thirdeyesecurity.org>:


> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 08:47:43PM +0100, cubit wrote:
>> I was running qvm-trim-template on my 6 templates - Qubes 3.2 -  but the 
>> process looked to hang on 2 of them.   After 30 minutes of waiting (usually 
>> 2-3 minutes max) I ctrl+c them
>> This resulted in files being left behind blocking me from running 
>> qvm-trim-template again on the problem ones.
>>
>>
> Read > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/remove-vm-manually 
> <https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/remove-vm-manually/>
>
> The libvirt error shows you need to manually remove that qube.
>
> qvm-remove just-db trim-whonix-gw-14
>
> unman
>







Thank you for the suggestion unman, when I do the `--just-db` step outlined it 
tells me




A VM with the name 'trim-whonix-gw-14' does not exist in the system.




I've also tried this before deleting the AppVM that trim creates but the error 
is the same







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[qubes-users] qvm-trim-template hung now stuck with remnants of the process

[cubit]

I was running qvm-trim-template on my 6 templates - Qubes 3.2 -  but the 
process looked to hang on 2 of them.   After 30 minutes of waiting (usually 2-3 
minutes max) I ctrl+c them
This resulted in files being left behind blocking me from running 
qvm-trim-template again on the problem ones.
If I do  qvm-trim-template whonix-gw-14   I get the error
Disk usage before:
2644484    /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/root.img
Creating temporary VM...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/qvm-trim-template", line 172, in 
    main()
  File "/usr/bin/qvm-trim-template", line 115, in main
    fstrim_vm.create_on_disk()
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/modules/000QubesVm.py", line 
1298, in create_on_disk
    self.storage.create_on_disk(verbose, source_template)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/storage/__init__.py", line 
175, in create_on_disk
    os.mkdir (self.vmdir)
OSError: [Errno 17] File exists: '/var/lib/qubes/appvms/trim-whonix-gw-14'
I though maybe I could delete the trim-whonix-gw-14 app VM but get this error 
then

$ sudo rm -rf /var/lib/qubes/appvms/trim-whonix-gw-14
$ qvm-trim-template whonix-gw-14
Disk usage before:
2644484    /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/whonix-gw-14/root.img
Creating temporary VM...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/qvm-trim-template", line 172, in 
    main()
  File "/usr/bin/qvm-trim-template", line 115, in main
    fstrim_vm.create_on_disk()
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/modules/000QubesVm.py", line 
1320, in create_on_disk
    self._update_libvirt_domain()
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/modules/000QubesVm.py", line 
767, in _update_libvirt_domain
    raise e
libvirt.libvirtError: operation failed: domain 'trim-whonix-gw-14' already 
exists with uuid 1dcd7cd5-aaa9-4b62-8254-73b8db63190b


Can anyone suggest how to rectify this so I can trim once again?

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Re: [qubes-users] how do you clear "move/copy to other app vm" context windows

[cubit]

21. Aug 2018 00:09 by un...@thirdeyesecurity.org 
:

> Ah, OK  - on 3.2 the lists were indeed cached on the calling qube.
>
> The rogue entries are stored in ~/.config/qvm-mru-filecopy in the qube
> you are trying to copy from.
> You can just edit that file to remove them from the list.




Thank you! Sanity restored :-)







 

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 has been Released

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20. Aug 2018 11:27 by 169...@gmail.com :

> Thanks
> a /var/log/tor/log file does not exists. There are no files in /var/log/tor/ 
> folder. 
>
> It did not happened before, but now I'm getting the enclosed alert window, 
> which tells about permission errors.
>
> Perhaps it is better to try to delete the Whonix 14 installation and try 
> another time.
>







I had this exact problem when I did my first install of whonix-14.   
/var/lib/tor and all sub filders and files were owned by user "pulse".   I did 
chown them to be owned by "debian-tor" but with other time related problems I 
just delete the whonix-14 templates and re-installed them.   Second time they 
worked fine despite doing nothing different.






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Re: [qubes-users] how do you clear "move/copy to other app vm" context windows

[cubit]

18. Aug 2018 11:22 by un...@thirdeyesecurity.org 
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> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 08:32:35PM +0200, cubit wrote:
>> Is there a way to copy the suggested VMs in the "move/copy to other app vm" 
>> as I have a few entries that no longer exist and would like to get rid of 
>> them?
>>
>>
>> CuBit
>
> Those aren't "suggested": they are taken from list of available qubes,
> and I don't think they are cached.
>
> Just to be clear, you have run 'qvm-remove foo', foo no longer appears
> in the QubeManager, you cannot run a program in foo by (e.g)  'qvm-run -a foo
> xterm', but foo appears in the drop down list for policy checking?
>







Thank you Unman,  this is on Qubes 3.2 maybe working differently




I have entries in the "suggested" list which includes old AppVM that no longer 
exist and even incomplete entries where I was too quick to hit return to send a 
file.  Example  I have "vaul"  (no such appvm ever exist) and "vault" (does 
exist appvm)







CuBit












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Re: [qubes-users] Re: how do you clear "move/copy to other app vm" context windows

[cubit]

17. Aug 2018 03:24 by yreb...@riseup.net <mailto:yreb...@riseup.net>:

> On 08/16/2018 08:32 AM, cubit wrote:
>> Is there a way to copy the suggested VMs in the "move/copy to other app vm" 
>> as I have a few entries that no longer exist and would like to get rid of 
>> them?
>>
>>
>> CuBit
>>
>
> I suppose you've tried  qvm-sync-appmenus in dom0
>
> and/or  in the VMM  "refresh applications" 
>
>
> though, just a wild guess not an educated one
>







I think I was not too clear.   In the file browsers (nautilus) there is a right 
click context menu option to copy or move a file to another appvm.  I am trying 
to find how to clear these dialog boxes of the appvm names that are saved in 
them.




CuBit

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[qubes-users] how do you clear "move/copy to other app vm" context windows

[cubit]

Is there a way to copy the suggested VMs in the "move/copy to other app vm" as 
I have a few entries that no longer exist and would like to get rid of them?


CuBit

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Enigmail v2.0 broke split-gpg

[cubit]

27. Mar 2018 15:40 by cu...@tutanota.com :


>
> Any persons got the workaround listed here: > 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3750 
> >  to work in 3.2?   Is 
> there a particular line it needs to be done on.    When I add it to the file, 
> all that happens is my work VM connects to my vault VM and I get a blank 
> email no decrypted message
>
>







Is there plans to move the patch from r3.2 testing to stable any time soon?






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[qubes-users] issues with qubes fedora and debian repos

[cubit]

Are there problems with the debian and fedora repos at the moment.   I am 
getting errors when I try to update debian9 and fedora26 templates?

Debian: 
Err:5 http://deb.qubes-os.org/r3.2/vm  stretch 
Release
  500  Unable to connect
Hit:7 http://ftp.debian.org/debian  
stretch-backports InRelease
Ign:6 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian 
 stretch InRelease
Hit:8 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian 
 stretch Release
Reading package lists... Done
E: The repository 'http://deb.qubes-os.org/r3.2/vm 
 stretch Release' does no longer have a 
Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore 
disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration 
details.


Fedora:
Error: Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'qubes-vm-r3.2-current'





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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Enigmail v2.0 broke split-gpg

[cubit]

27. Mar 2018 09:45 by mich...@qubes-os.org <mailto:mich...@qubes-os.org>:

> couldn't figure out a fast solution so I downgraded back to v1.9.9 for
> the time being.
>
> You can do the same by downloading v1.9.9 and manually installing in
> thunderbird (and unchecking "update addons automatically"):
>
> https://www.enigmail.net/download/release/1.9/enigmail-1.9.9-sm+tb.xpi?type=application/octet-stream
>  
> <https://www.enigmail.net/download/release/1.9/enigmail-1.9.9-sm+tb.xpi?type=application/octet-stream>
>
> I will email Enigmail mailing list so that they are aware.
>







Is anyone else who downgraded back to 1.9.9 getting stuck with a big autocrypt 
header being displayed and a missing email body when receiving emails from 
enigmail 2.0 users?




Any persons got the workaround listed here: 
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3750 
<https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3750> to work in 3.2?   Is 
there a particular line it needs to be done on.    When I add it to the file, 
all that happens is my work VM connects to my vault VM and I get a blank email 
no decrypted message








cubit.










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Re: [qubes-users] Re: split gpg failing after moving appvm from debian 8 to debian 9

[cubit]

1. Mar 2018 20:13 by cu...@tutanota.com:


> 1. Mar 2018 20:01 by > un...@thirdeyesecurity.org> :
>
>
>> Which Qubes version are you using?
>> Do you get the Gpg dialog popup?
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> Qubes 3.2 with all templates and dom0 updated as of today.   Yes I get pop up 
> asking do I want to give access to keys for the time period defined by 
> QUBES_GPG_AUTOACCEPT in .bash_profile in work qube (if vault qube is not 
> running it will be started).  I say yes to this and it just errors with 
>
>
>
>
>
> "Error - no matching private/secret key found to decrypt message; click on 
> details button for more information"
>
>
>
>
>
> Clicking on the details button in thunderbird, shows that the message is 
> encrypted to my key
>
>
>
>
> gpg key is a master / sub key set up with the master private key offline if 
> that makes any difference.
>







Here is some type of  answer if anyone else runs into this problem, I did not 
manage to fix this but did work around it.  





 - I created a brand new vault VM based on Debian 9, 


- exported all my keys from old vault

- imported into new vault 


- updated work VM to call new vault




everything works again.




I guess I'll never know why simply changing my original vault VM template from 
Debian 8 to 9 did not work.





Cubit
















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Re: [qubes-users] Re: split gpg failing after moving appvm from debian 8 to debian 9

[cubit]

1. Mar 2018 20:01 by un...@thirdeyesecurity.org:


> Which Qubes version are you using?
> Do you get the Gpg dialog popup?

 




Qubes 3.2 with all templates and dom0 updated as of today.   Yes I get pop up 
asking do I want to give access to keys for the time period defined by 
QUBES_GPG_AUTOACCEPT in .bash_profile in work qube (if vault qube is not 
running it will be started).  I say yes to this and it just errors with 





"Error - no matching private/secret key found to decrypt message; click on 
details button for more information"





Clicking on the details button in thunderbird, shows that the message is 
encrypted to my key




gpg key is a master / sub key set up with the master private key offline if 
that makes any difference.















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Re: [qubes-users] Re: split gpg failing after moving appvm from debian 8 to debian 9

[cubit]

1. Mar 2018 19:36 by un...@thirdeyesecurity.org:

> It's not broken on debian-9.
> How are you calling split-gpg in the work qube?
> What is the exact error message?




I had:




work qube as debian 8, changed template used to debian 9 and works ok.





vault qube as debian 8 but when I try change the template to debian 9, work 
template can no longer find private keys.    The work quebe will start the 
vault qube when encrypted email is looked at so it appears they are talking ok.





- In work qube I am using Thunderbird + enigmail

- enigmail is configured to use "/usr/bin/qubes-gpg-client-wrapper"

- in work qube terminal  "qubes-gpg-client -k" returns all my keys




The only thing changing is the template for vault qube.




Cubit










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[qubes-users] Re: split gpg failing after moving appvm from debian 8 to debian 9

[cubit]

19. Jan 2018 09:26 by cu...@tutanota.com:


> Hello qubes-users
>
> I am migrating all my AppVM from Debian 8 template to Debian 9 template  but 
> I am running into little problem with split GPG.
>
> Split GPG has been working on my computer okay with Debian 8 and two appVM;   
> "work" which has thunderbird and enigmail and "vault" which has my gpg keys.
>
> The issue seems to be if I set the vault to Debian 9,  my work appVM 
> complains that it can not find my private key.  Even though if I run 
> "qubes-gpg-client -K" on the work appVM it shows my keys.  Looking at an 
> encrypted email when "vault" appVM is not running will force it to be 
> started.   The problem exists if even I set work appVM to d8 or d9. Work 
> VM with Debian9  and vault VM with debian 8 works okay.
>
> I have gone over > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/split-gpg>  to make sure 
> everything is set up correctly after template change and at each step it is.
>
> Can anyone know how to fix this?
>
>







Hello Qubes users,




I am still stuck with this problem of not being able to move from Debian8 to 
Debian9 for my split GPG. Is there anyone who know a way to do this or is 
just split key GPG in Debian 9 broken?







Cubit






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[qubes-users] split gpg failing after moving appvm from debian 8 to debian 9

[cubit]

Hello qubes-users

I am migrating all my AppVM from Debian 8 template to Debian 9 template  but I 
am running into little problem with split GPG.

Split GPG has been working on my computer okay with Debian 8 and two appVM;   
"work" which has thunderbird and enigmail and "vault" which has my gpg keys.

The issue seems to be if I set the vault to Debian 9,  my work appVM complains 
that it can not find my private key.  Even though if I run "qubes-gpg-client 
-K" on the work appVM it shows my keys.  Looking at an encrypted email when 
"vault" appVM is not running will force it to be started.   The problem exists 
if even I set work appVM to d8 or d9. Work VM with Debian9  and vault VM 
with debian 8 works okay.

I have gone over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/split-gpg to make sure everything 
is set up correctly after template change and at each step it is.

Can anyone know how to fix this?

Cubit


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: R3.2: Debian 9 template fails to update 50% of the time

[cubit]

5. Dec 2017 10:32 by dim...@gmail.com:


> Check out the documentation:
>
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/debian/upgrade-8-to-9
>
> User-initiated updates/upgrades may not run when a templateVM first starts. 
> This is due to a new Debian config setting that attempts to update 
> automatically; it can be disabled with systemctl disable apt-daily.timer.
>




Wow how did I miss  that.




Danke




Cubit

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[qubes-users] R3.2 Fedora 26 template update issues

[cubit]

Hello, I am using the offical Fedora 26 template 
(qubes-template-fedora-26-4.0.0-201711170141.noarch.rpm)  from the Repo and am 
having problems with it.

If I run an update from the Qubes VM manager it throws lots of errors about 
unmet dependencies for a few dnf and yum packages and ultimately fails to 
update the template.

If however I start the template manually and do a "dnf update"  it updates all 
the packages with out a problem.

Is there a way to fix the template so that updating with Qubes VM manager works?


Cubit.

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[qubes-users] R3.2: Debian 9 template fails to update 50% of the time

[cubit]

Hello Qubers,

I am having problems with a Debian 9 template on Qubes R3.2

The Debian 9 template is an upgraded Debian 8 from the repos as there is no 
prebuilt D9 yet.   Each time I try to update it from Qubes VM Manager it fails 
the first time  every time with error

Reading package lists... Done
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily 
unavailable)
E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
Done.
Press Enter to shutdown the template, or Ctrl-C to just close this window.

The only way to get around this is to shutdown the template and immediately try 
an update again.

Starting it up again, it it is very slow to connect, sitting at "0% [Working]" 
for up to a minute before connecting to the repos and then slowly goes thorugh 
them.

Any person know how to fix this so it updates first time with out problems?

Cubit


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[qubes-users] Re: Debian 9 templates

[cubit]

22. Jun 2017 12:37 by cu...@tutanota.com:


> Is there existing any pre-made templates for Debian 9?
>







Halo 





Is there any news on Debian 9 template?   





Can also someone remind we the URL to check which templates are installable, 
not /docs but there was a URL to the folder/repo with all the templates for 
download









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Re: [qubes-users] how to better verify backups to catch restore errors?

[cubit]

22. Jun 2017 03:58 by a...@qubes-os.org:

> You can use the "verify-only" restore option (available both in Qubes
> Manager and on the command-line) immediately after creating a backup.
>




That is the problem.   I have done the verify and it passes with no error for 
all of the backup archives that have problems restoring my "storage" AppVM.  As 
I discovered this has been a problem for nearly 4 months worth of backups.





I am trying to find if there is another way to verify backups because the built 
in method and restorting is failing me at the moment.  Or better fix the 
backup/restore issue

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[qubes-users] Debian 9 templates

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Is there existing any pre-made templates for Debian 9?




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[qubes-users] how to better verify backups to catch restore errors?

[cubit]

Is there a better way to verify that the qubes based backup succeeds?

I discovered today that, while I backup all AppVM and TemplateVM in one time 
(via GUI),  the backups created going back to February all consistently fail to 
restore one particular appVM

Yesterday I needed a clean laptop for a travel so I did a full backup and then 
removed my "storage" AppVM that contain all my documents as well I delete 2 
other AppVM, "gpg" and "chat".   Can you see where this go..?

Today I go to restore the deleted AppVM via GUI.   "gpg" and "chat" restore 
perfect but "storage" gives error even though when I veryify the archive it is 
ok :((

   ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: u'/var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk/vm1'
   *** Skipping VM: storage
   -> Done. Please install updates for all the restored templates.
   -> Completed with errors!
   

 I try using "qvm-backup-restore -d sys-usb /path/to/backup/qubes_backup_time 
storage --debug" to see if there are more details.  It fails too and no much 
details are extra  See attached restore_errors.txt where it try vm17
 
 
What is interesting is that for some reason it is trying to restore vm17 which 
is not my "storage" vm based on the qubes.xml in the same directory.  My 
"storage" vm should be 1.

I was able to do "emergency backup recovery" on files in vm1 directory and as 
hoped, all my "storage" appVM files were in there.

I had to go to backups from February before I could find one that would restore 
"storage" appVM from GUI or qvm-backup-restore

Some questions

- how can I better veryify backups working?
- why does it seem qubes is getting confused about appVM qid on restore?
- at top of restore_error.txt file it says only 1MB to restore, even when AppVM 
is 1.8GB is size,  why size difference?
- is there anything I can do to compare the good backup that restores via gui 
and any of the many broken backups to see what went wrong?
- how can I be sure this qid mixup won't happen again?


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Working in temporary dir:/var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk
Extracting data: 1.0 MiB to restore
Run command[u'/usr/libexec/qubes/qfile-dom0-unpacker', '1000', 
u'/var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk', u'-v']
Got backup header and hmac: backup-header, backup-header.hmac
Verifying file /var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk/backup-header
Loading hmac for file /var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk/backup-header
File verification OK -> Sending file /var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk/backup-header
Creating pipe in: /var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk/restore_pipe
Getting new file:qubes.xml.000
Getting hmac:qubes.xml.000.hmac
Verifying file /var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk/qubes.xml.000
Started sending thread
Moving to dir /var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk
Loading hmac for file /var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk/qubes.xml.000
File verification OK -> Sending file /var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk/qubes.xml.000
Getting new file:
Waiting for the extraction process to finish...
Extracting file /var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk/qubes.xml.000
Running command [u'tar', u'-xkv', u'qubes.xml']
Removing file /var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk/qubes.xml.000
qubes.xml
Finished extracting thread
Extraction process finished with code:0
Loading file /var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk/qubes.xml
storage is included in backup
whonix-gw is included in backup
whonix-ws is included in backup
sys-net is included in backup
sys-firewall is included in backup
debian-8-live is included in backup
sys-whonix is included in backup
anon-whonix is included in backup
5 is included in backup
debian-8-sec is included in backup
debian-8-stable-java is included in backup
4 is included in backup
net- is included in backup
1 is included in backup
2 is included in backup
3 is included in backup
chat is included in backup
gpg is included in backup
personal is included in backup
6 is included in backup
7 is included in backup
8 is included in backup
9 is included in backup
fedora-24-live is included in backup
10 is included in backup

The following VMs are included in the backup:

--+--+--+---+---+---+
 name | type | template | updbl | netvm | label |
--+--+--+---+---+---+
 storage |  App | debian-8-live |   | - | green | <-- Will be renamed 
to 'storage'

The above VMs will be copied and added to your system.
Exisiting VMs will NOT be removed.
Do you want to proceed? [y/N] Working in temporary dir:/var/tmp/restore_LtT4Jk
Extracting data: 1.7 GiB to restore
Run command[u'/usr/libexec/qubes/qfile-dom0-unpacker', '1000', 

Re: [qubes-users] emergency backup recovery proedue - how do you tell which "vm" folder is what AppVM

[cubit]

21. Jun 2017 19:38 by cu...@tutanota.com:


> I am having to do an emergency backup recovery on my most recent backup 
> as a restore from GUI fails.  
>
>
> I have a lot of AppVM and TemplateVM, 30 in total.   After I extract the 
> backup archive I am presented with a list of folder (vmNN)  one for each VM.  
>  
>
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 user user  93 Jun 14 12:23 backup-header
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 user user 138 Jun 14 12:23 backup-header.hmac
> drwxrwxr-x 2 user user    4096 Jun 21 19:23 dom0-home
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 user user   30752 Jun 14 12:23 qubes.xml.000
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 user user 138 Jun 14 12:23 qubes.xml.000.hmac
> drwxrwxr-x 3 user user    4096 Jun 21 19:10 vm1
> drwxrwxr-x 2 user user    4096 Jun 21 18:45 vm10
> drwxrwxr-x 2 user user    4096 Jun 21 19:02 vm11
> drwxrwxr-x 2 user user    4096 Jun 21 19:10 vm13
> drwxrwxr-x 2 user user    4096 Jun 21 18:40 vm14
> .
>
> Is there a way how do I know what vm number corresponds to an appVM name so I 
> do not have to try restore each vmNN folder to get my files back for just one 
> problem VM.
>







To answer my own question.  from the same directory as the vmNN folders:




   cat qubes.xml.??? | openssl enc -d -pass pass:"my_pass" -aes-256-cbc -out 
qubes.xml 





Then look for the appVM name and the corresponding "qid="













   

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[qubes-users] emergency backup recovery proedue - how do you tell which "vm" folder is what AppVM

[cubit]

I am having to do an emergency backup recovery on my most recent backup as a 
restore from GUI fails.  


I have a lot of AppVM and TemplateVM, 30 in total.   After I extract the backup 
archive I am presented with a list of folder (vmNN)  one for each VM.   

-rw-rw-r-- 1 user user  93 Jun 14 12:23 backup-header
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user user 138 Jun 14 12:23 backup-header.hmac
drwxrwxr-x 2 user user    4096 Jun 21 19:23 dom0-home
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user user   30752 Jun 14 12:23 qubes.xml.000
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user user 138 Jun 14 12:23 qubes.xml.000.hmac
drwxrwxr-x 3 user user    4096 Jun 21 19:10 vm1
drwxrwxr-x 2 user user    4096 Jun 21 18:45 vm10
drwxrwxr-x 2 user user    4096 Jun 21 19:02 vm11
drwxrwxr-x 2 user user    4096 Jun 21 19:10 vm13
drwxrwxr-x 2 user user    4096 Jun 21 18:40 vm14
.

Is there a way how do I know what vm number corresponds to an appVM name so I 
do not have to try restore each vmNN folder to get my files back for just one 
problem VM.




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Re: [qubes-users] debian8's thunderbird dead

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6. May 2017 10:30 by haa...@web.de:

> since debian-8 rebraded icedove thunderbird, they are all dead. On the
> command line the just spill out "Killed" verbose or safe-mode give no
> better information. This may or may not be linked to the change in
> debian8 - it may also be linked to the "immutable script" in rc.local
> that I copied after some hardening discussion here in the forum 2 months
> ago. I don't see how, but since I am lost I look for any possibility.
> May you help me?  Thx, Bernhard







You could try re-installing thunderbird




apt-get purge thunderbird icedove

apt-get install thunderbird







>
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Re: [qubes-users] Experiencing intermittent hangs?

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6. May 2017 01:37 by tas...@openmailbox.org:


> On 05/05/2017 09:15 PM, Gaiko Kyofusho wrote:
>> I seem to be experiencing intermittent/temporary (few secs-min) hangs
>> on/between VMs. That is, I can be working on an app in one VM, it will
>> begin to hang, to I usually switch to another VM and work on that for a
>> min or two then come back to the hung VM and it seems to work again.
>> While this is happening in _many_ applications, it seems to be an issue
>> more with chromium. I was thinking this might be related to memory as I
>> am also getting errors about not having enough mem to open up a VM (so I
>> usually close a VM or two then I can)(for the record I have the max my
>> laptop will take, 16gb, the default Qubes install doesn't include swap
>> space does it?)
>>
>> Anyway, thoughts on this would be appreciated as its really not helping
>> my workflow.
>>
>
> Although I don't use chromium, I'm experiencing temporary graphics freezing 
> as well. For example, if I start to drag a file from nautilus onto another 
> app the dragged icon may freeze in transit along with nautilus. Sometimes it 
> can stay frozen for 30 sec. or more.
>







I started a thread about this back in April.  Apparently a known issue with a 
fix due some time




https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/appvm$20window$20freezing|sort:date/qubes-users/q1w05yyCI2k/XWpDFWDrBwAJ

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Re: [qubes-users] QSB #30: Critical Xen bugs related to PV memory virtualization (XSA-213, XSA-214)

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2. May 2017 12:10 by a...@qubes-os.org:

> Patching
> =
>
> These packages will migrate to the current (stable) repository over the
> coming days after being tested by the community.
>







Not wanting to push it too much but is there a rough eta as to when these 
patches will be pushed to 3.2-stable?






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[qubes-users] AppVM windows freezing after recent update

[cubit]

Hello Qubers.

I am sorry but this is going to be a little vague as I have not been able to 
pinpoint much but hoping someone knows a solution or is at least having same 
problem.

Since updating dom0 and my appVM templates last Sunday I am having problems 
with windows in my appVMs being unresponsive to mouse input.  I can not scroll 
or select items in windows.   The menus work in so much as they show the list 
but clicking itemes in the menus of a window does nothing.   Trying to click X 
to close a window does nothing. Some examples.  if I open Nautilus I can 
not select directories to change to or files to open,  firefox will not scroll 
windows.    The only way around this is to shutdown the problem AppVM via VM 
manager and try again,  some times it works first times around, some times I 
have to shut down the AppVM multiple times.

I'm running Qubes 3.2 with Fedora 24 and Debian 8 app templates/vms


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Re: [qubes-users] feature idea: creat trusted office document

[cubit]

14. Mar 2017 23:34 by tas...@openmailbox.org:

> The latter sounds plausible. But its just removing one step for the user... 
> open doc in untrusted/disp VM and "Save As PDF", then run the usual Trusted 
> PDF function (from a trusted VM; it doesn't help to run it from untrusted).




Unless I am over complicating my work flow, I have many steps to get a risky 
doc to a pdf I can give for some person




- open document it disp vm

- save as pdf

- open dom0 terminal

- get dom0 to open a disp terminal in the same dispVM as the disposable doc

- move converted PDF to a trusted domain

- view PDF




so be 3 extra step it would cut down.









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Re: [qubes-users] Re: sys-net forgets wifi password on reboot

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14. Mar 2017 22:50 by pag...@gmail.com:

> This should help. > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2584
>
> Essentially, make sure you have gnome-keyring and libnotify-daemon rpms 
> installed in the template. The edit the template 
> /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file and add 'keyfile' to the plugins 
> list under [main].
>




Thank you, I see you mention the need for libnotify-daemon which does not look 
to exist as a package in dnf.




 For the plugin's line I have




#plugins=ifcfg-rh,ibft




Does it make more sense to match it to that in github ("plugins=ifbt,keyfile) 
or just updated to add keyfile to existing one I have.  to be




plugins=ifcfg-rh,ibft,keyfile









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[qubes-users] feature idea: creat trusted office document

[cubit]

What would be possibility of getting a file manager context menu item to create 
trusted office document  like we have for PDF and img currently.

I think make the document its self safe is hard while keeping the file type but 
maybe "convert to trusted pdf" would be usable solution?


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Re: [qubes-users] Curious: https for yum repos

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14. Mar 2017 04:39 by tas...@openmailbox.org:

> GPG is sufficient for verification, although using HTTPS would conceal which 
> software packages you are using



GPG does not protect against a MITM downgrade attack to a validly signed but 
older vulnerable version of a piece of software


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[qubes-users] sys-net forgets wifi password on reboot

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I am using Qubes 3.2 with Fedora 24 netVM.

I have just noticed after changing the WPA2 password on one of the Access 
points I use that Qubes no longer remembers the Wifi password for any new 
access point that I add.

It will remember the password as long as I do not restart the sys-net AppVM or 
reboot the computer.

Is anyone else noticing this?  


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[qubes-users] Re: kali failing to start as a HVM (bootable iso)

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17. Jan 2017 00:31 by spfmcgu...@gmail.com:

> What steps did you do before this step? Did you create the HVM using 
> qvm-create?
>
> Have you referenced the Docs page for setting up Kali? 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/pentesting/kali




I followed https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/pentesting/kali/#hvm




With step 2 being done through Qubes VM manager (VM > Create VM)


Name: kali

color: red

HVM: standalone

Allow networking: sys-firewal




Then on to step 3 which gives the error as last email














 

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[qubes-users] kali failing to start as a HVM (bootable iso)

[cubit]

I'm trying to run the kali iso as a HVM but when running qvm-start in dom0  it 
just fails with the errors below.  The template being used is a standalone HVM. 
Can anyone have pointers on how to work this?

$ qvm-start kali --cdrom work:/home/user/kali-linux-xfce-2016.2-amd64.iso
--> Loading the VM (type = HVM)...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/qvm-start", line 136, in 
    main()
  File "/usr/bin/qvm-start", line 120, in main
    xid = vm.start(verbose=options.verbose, 
preparing_dvm=options.preparing_dvm, start_guid=not options.noguid, 
notify_function=tray_notify_generic if options.tray else None)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/modules/01QubesHVm.py", line 
335, in start
    return super(QubesHVm, self).start(*args, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/modules/000QubesVm.py", line 
1966, in start
    self.libvirt_domain.createWithFlags(libvirt.VIR_DOMAIN_START_PAUSED)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/libvirt.py", line 1059, in 
createWithFlags
    if ret == -1: raise libvirtError ('virDomainCreateWithFlags() failed', 
dom=self)
libvirt.libvirtError: internal error: libxenlight failed to create new domain 
'kali'





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Re: [qubes-users] removing of f23 template did not go as planned

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3. Jan 2017 21:05 by a...@qubes-os.org:

> Not sure why the removal failed, but you can clean up any remnants by 
> following these instructions:
>
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/remove-vm-manually
>







Fixed,  the dnf remove cleaned up everything but the .desktop files.  rm'ing 
those got rid of the app menu entries












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[qubes-users] removing of f23 template did not go as planned

[cubit]

Has anyone else run into this.  I was attempting to remove the Fedora 23  
template as I no longer use it.

I removed my cloned F23 templates with the gui manager and that went OK but 
when I did a dnf remove from terminal in dom0  for the main template I got a 
bunch of file not found errors and even though it says it removed the template 
and can't be found with dnf list or in qubes manager,  the template entry is 
still in my application menu.

Any suggestions on how to clean this up properly would be appreciated

Below if the output of dnf remove

$ sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-23
Dependencies resolved.

 Package  Arch   Version   Repository  Size

Removing:
 qubes-template-fedora-23 noarch 3.0.6-201608081228    @qubes-dom0-cached 3.3 G

Transaction Summary

Remove  1 Package

Installed size: 3.3 G
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded.
Running transaction
A VM with the name 'fedora-23-dvm' does not exist in the system.
--> Removing menu shortcuts...
  Erasing : qubes-template-fedora-23-3.0.6-201608081228.noarch  1/1 
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/fedora-23/root.img.part.03: remove 
failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/fedora-23/root.img.part.02: remove 
failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/fedora-23/root.img.part.01: remove 
failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/fedora-23/root.img.part.00: remove 
failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/fedora-23/apps.templates: remove 
failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/fedora-23/apps.tempicons: remove 
failed: No such file or directory
warning: file /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/fedora-23/apps: remove failed: No 
such file or directory
  Verifying   : qubes-template-fedora-23-3.0.6-201608081228.noarch  1/1 

Removed:
  qubes-template-fedora-23.noarch 3.0.6-201608081228    

Complete!




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Re: [qubes-users] Split GPG: thunderbird+enigmail stopped cache password

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16. Dec 2016 18:38 by marma...@invisiblethingslab.com:

>> + Changing my vault VM to fedora24
>>
>>    - It remembers the keys password but does not honor the timeout settings, 
>> it always reprompts at 5 minutes despite "export QUBES_GPG_AUTOACCEPT=86400" 
>> being in .bash_profile 
>
> Hmm, it works for me...
>
>>    - Removing the password from my subkeys and it still prompts for a 
>> password and only works with the password I removed, not blank.  interacting 
>> with gpg on command line shows that the password does not exist all signing 
>> / decryption is automatic
>>
>> Any reasons for the above behavior?
>
> Make sure you use gpg2, not gpg.


Both are installed in the Fedora 24 template but if I understand correctly, the 
qubes gpg wrapper now defaults to gpg2.


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Re: [qubes-users] Split GPG: thunderbird+enigmail stopped cache password

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16. Dec 2016 12:22 by a...@qubes-os.org:

> You're also ignoring the part that I quoted for you previously. Here
> it is again:
>
> "You may experience trouble when attempting to use a PGP key with a
> passphrase along with Split-GPG and Enigmail. If you do, you may need
> to remove the passphrase from your (sub)key(s) in order to get
> Split-GPG working correctly. As mentioned above, we do not believe PGP
> key passphrases to be significant from a security perspective."
>
> What this means for you:
>
> You're experiencing trouble when attempting to use a PGP key with a
> passphrase along with Split-GPG and Enigmail, so you may need to
> remove the passphrase from your (sub)key(s) in order to get Split-GPG
> working correctly.
>







I do not want to come across rude but that's not how I see it.   I was using 
passphrase fine over several releases and it just stop working for a reason I 
have yet to find out why.




Removing the password is not a fix it is a kludge or work around.   A fix is 
getting it back to its previous working state with password use intact.





If passphrase use is so seeming temperamental that you have to offer this 
kludge, it should be said do not use!







 

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

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21. Oct 2016 16:14 by cu...@tutanota.com:

>
> I tried menulibre and it did not go so well, moving the "Qubes VM Manager" 
> shortcut in the app menu from the middle of off the templates and  appvm's to 
> the top along side "run program" and "terminal emulator"  had the very bad 
> side effect of deleting all the shortcuts under "system tools".
>
>
>
>
> Has anyone played around and found a way to --safely-- organize the 
> application menu?
>







Looping back to this has anyone had any success in managing the xfce menu 
expecially grouping the templates?









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Re: [qubes-users] How do I get Qubes 4.0 pre-release/dev build?

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1. Dec 2016 21:40 by a...@qubes-os.org:

>> Should user experience also be considered for major releases?
>>
>
> Yes, but we simply don't have the workforce at this point. Higher priority 
> tasks consume all available developer bandwidth.
>




The user experience or even hardware support is an important one.  If people 
can't use it, Qubes is doing to languish in some obscurity,   should more 
developers be brought on?   





 I know that is a matter of money or someone being generous with time but 
funding should be a possible route (ccing Michael Carbone) but I am sure hard 
work to gain or even applying for some like Google Summer of Code.










 

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Re: [qubes-users] How to completely remove a template ?

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16. Dec 2016 10:04 by sw...@petaramesh.org:

> I had upgraded my fedora-23 template to fedora-24 by cloning it per the
> documentation, then moved all my VMs to using the new one.
>
> Then I removed (dnf remove) the fedora-23 package. Still it shows up in
> the "Qubes VM manager", and the option "Remove VM" is greyed out.
>
> I have then removed all the fedora-23 folders under /var/lib/qubes ,
> still I cannot get rid of the entry in the VM manager.*
>








from dom0 terminal run  





qvm-remove 




e.g




qvm-remove fedora-23









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Re: [qubes-users] Split GPG: thunderbird+enigmail stopped cache password

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16. Dec 2016 05:58 by a...@qubes-os.org:

> I recommend disabling your key's passphrase (i.e., using a blank
> passphrase).

 

This is disappointing to hear.    Removing the password sounds like a kludge 
than a fix to something that had been working okay.





I understand the model does not technically need a password but it is something 
I want (rightly or rongly) and it was working okay since R3.0 which to me 
indicates that it can work and just something broke.




> The reasoning can be found throughout the document (search for
> "passphrase").
>




I do and see that it is optional which should mean it works. From the page you 
say:





> > "Therefore,using a passphrase at all should be considered optional."




If it is not supposed to work  or is not supported it should be said  "do not 
use passphrase with key" instead of saying "is optional" as this lead people to 
understand that while not needed it works.
















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[qubes-users] ssh keys gui not working / password no longer stored (deb8)

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Heia

Since using Qubes (debian 8 template) back to R3.1 when ever I used ssh I would 
get a gui prompt asking for my key password and it would be remembered for all 
subsequent ssh sessions until I restart the AppVM.

With a recent template update this has broken, now what happens is in the 
terminal window I am asked for the keys password but the password is no longer 
stored and I must retype for every new session.

Is there an easy way to get the gui / password managed option back?

Cubit


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Re: [qubes-users] How do I get Qubes 4.0 pre-release/dev build?

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1. Dec 2016 13:43 by a...@qubes-os.org:

> we don't consider this to be a security risk of any kind due to the way dom0 
> is isolated from domUs:
>




Does using older and potentially EOL  distros for Dom0 leave it with out dated 
software that can be beneficial to users?  e.g. Updated XFCE will always bring 
improvements for like with dual monitor setups and other fixes better support 
for HiDPI monitoers.    With out these it seem to me that it means Qubes 
support gets relegated to older hardware with out fancy features.





Should user experience also be considered for major releases?










 

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Re: Enigmial and Splig GPG2 (previously Re: [qubes-users] Upgrading from Split GPG1 to Split GPG2?)

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17. Nov 2016 15:33 by dmoer...@gmail.com:

> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 at 10:21:33 PM UTC-5, george wrote:
>> Yes. I get the same issue too. I can read the message, but I can't write, 
>> and I'm also in Debian-8 VM on Qubes 3.2, with Enigmail and Thunderbird. I 
>> can READ messages, but I can't send them, nor verify/encrypt/sign them. I'm 
>> not sure what to do with this...
>
> What template are you using for the gpg VM? 
>







 For me both my vault VM and thunderbird VM are sharing the same Debian 8 
template.   This template does have gnupg-agent 2.0.26-6+deb8u1  installed






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Re: [qubes-users] dom0 window manager style

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13. Nov 2016 19:52 by qu...@axenhus.com:

> If you're using XFCE I think it's Nodoka. (That's what I got anyway.)




That was it! I guess I skipped over that.




 

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[qubes-users] dom0 window manager style

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I have a really stupid question.  I was looking at dom0's window manager 
settings and changed the style and now I can not find the one that Qubes uses 
by default.   Can anyone know what it is called or how to get it back, I've 
gone though the list and nothing looks similar and yes I have tried "Default" :)



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Re: [qubes-users] Re: OpenBSD Xen PHVM

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7. Sep 2016 16:33 by j...@johnrshannon.com:

> From the OpenBSD 6.0 Release Notes:
>
>> The xen(4) driver now supports domU configuration under Qubes OS.




Has any persons investegated if OpenBSD as a AppVM is likely to possible?




 

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Re: Enigmial and Splig GPG2 (previously Re: [qubes-users] Upgrading from Split GPG1 to Split GPG2?)

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9. Oct 2016 15:17 by cu...@tutanota.com:

>
> Has anyone experienced problems with using Splig GPG with Thunderbird and 
> Enigmail 1.9.5 in Debian 8 appVM?   Have also tried to build the AppVM 
> and TB install from scratch instead of simpli upgrading enigmail with 
> existing AppVM.    When ever I try I get the above error. when checking 
> encrypted email.
>







Sorry for bumping but hoping someone knows a solution for this?






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Re: [qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

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4. Oct 2016 11:47 by cu...@tutanota.com:

>
> https://smdavis.us/projects/menulibre>   looks promising 
>
>
>
>
>
> But I am think that I just checking with anyone who has experience with XFCE 
> + Qubes to make sure there is not some sort of compatibility issue by using 
> such a app and how Qubes interacts with the application menu.
>




I tried menulibre and it did not go so well, moving the "Qubes VM Manager" 
shortcut in the app menu from the middle of off the templates and  appvm's to 
the top along side "run program" and "terminal emulator"  had the very bad side 
effect of deleting all the shortcuts under "system tools".




Has anyone played around and found a way to --safely-- organize the application 
menu?






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Re: [qubes-users] customizing dispVM not working

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10. Oct 2016 20:50 by un...@thirdeyesecurity.org:

> I remember a thread about this some time back - what you're doing is
> exactly right. 




Well that's good to know :o)

 


> All I can suggest is that you make sure that the change
> has "taken" in the template, and ensure that it has stopped running
> before you run qvm-create-default-dvm.
>




starting firefox from the template shows the changes as I want and `qvm-ls`  
before I run `qvm-create-default-dvm` shows that the template is not running.




All quite strange.









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[qubes-users] customizing dispVM not working

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Hello,

I am trying to customize a dispVM on qubes 3.2 but I can not get the 
customization to take. I am doing the following

dom0:
`qvm-run -a fedora-23-test gnome-terminal`

In the resultant gnome-terminal I am doing
`firefox`

When firefox launches I am setting duckduckgo as my homepage

I quit firefox

I `touch /home/user/.qubes-dispvm-customized`

I `poweroff` fedora-23-test from the gnome-terminal I opened.
 
I set the template to default dvm
`qvm-create-default-dvm fedora-23-test`

I then start the disposable firefox from XFCE application menu.

Firefox starts but does not have the custom start page but the standard 
http://start.fedoraproject.org.

I tried similar with nautilus changing from icon to list view but it also does 
not take.

This was working OK in 3.1. Am I doing something wrong in 3.2?


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Enigmial and Splig GPG2 (previously Re: [qubes-users] Upgrading from Split GPG1 to Split GPG2?)

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4. Oct 2016 19:40 by cu...@tutanota.com:
>
> I upgraded enigmail to v 1.9.5 and it did not go as well as planned.   From 
> what I read of the qubes documents there were nothing to change in qubes 
> settings to take into account the GnuPG2 requrement now.
>
>
>
>
> But when I run thunderbird 45.2.0 + enigmail 1.9.5 I get the following error.
>
>
>
>
>    " GnuPG reported an error in the communication with gpg-agent (a component 
> of GnuPG).
>
>     This is a system setup or configuration error that prevents Enigmail from 
> working properly and cannot be fixed automatically.
>
>     We strongly recommend that you consult our support web site at > 
> https://enigmail.net/faq> ."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The messages decrypt but I lose the notification that the email was decrypted 
> and I do not see any of the options to view details of the encrypted message 
> such like who it was encrypted for. I did restart both the appVM for 
> thunderbird and the appVM for my keys, both debian 8
>







Hello qubers,




Has anyone experienced problems with using Splig GPG with Thunderbird and 
Enigmail 1.9.5 in Debian 8 appVM?   Have also tried to build the AppVM and 
TB install from scratch instead of simpli upgrading enigmail with existing 
AppVM.    When ever I try I get the above error. when checking encrypted email.




Cubit










 

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Re: [qubes-users] QVM Manager restart fails periodically

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4. Oct 2016 16:04 by jeremyr...@airmail.cc:

> I can confirm that I encountered this today.  It was with a VM that had
> been running for several days.  I've encountered the same error (or one
> similar to it) in the past when trying to shut down a VM that takes a
> long time -- Qubes Manager asks me if I want to kill it, and if I say
> yes, sometimes there's some apparent race condition and the error comes
> up (I guess because the VM finished shutting down right before Qubes
> Manager tried to kill it).







For mich I do not see any request to kill the AppVM and the uptime of the VM is 
very low. for example 50 minutes when I was testing the function to try and get 
it to error.  


>  
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[qubes-users] Upgrading from Split GPG1 to Split GPG2?

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Hello

I am using an older version of Enigmail as during the time Split GPG and 
enigmail did not seem to work well together.  Enigmail expecting gpg2 while 
split gpg on qubes was offering gpg1.

If I want to upgrade my enigmail to the latest is there anything I need to do 
to the split GPG set up or should it all just talk GPG2 now?


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Re: [qubes-users] QVM Manager restart fails periodically

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4. Oct 2016 12:31 by a...@qubes-os.org:

> Thanks for the report. Tracking:
>
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2362
>




Some unscientific testing.




Trying a restart after 15 minutes of not doing a restart and the function works 
as expected




Trying a restart after 50 minutes of not doing a restart and the function fails 
the first time with the error as mentioned previously.









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Re: [qubes-users] where is sources.list?

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4. Oct 2016 12:31 by nezna...@xy9ce.tk:

> in Dom0 i try 
> sudo find / -name *.list -print 
> and i don't see the sources.list. Where is it?

sources.list is Debian based,  dom0 is fedora so take a look /etc/yum.conf, 
/etc/yum and /etc/yum.repos.d



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Re: [qubes-users] Re: XFCE Application menu

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3. Oct 2016 13:24 by cubemam...@gmail.com:


> Yeah I find that really annoying. I like my launcher to be neatly organized 
> and now its a mess, I'm not willing to go in an fix it via  text file in vi. 
>
> Best third party way to make this editable?




https://smdavis.us/projects/menulibre  looks promising 





But I am think that I just checking with anyone who has experience with XFCE + 
Qubes to make sure there is not some sort of compatibility issue by using such 
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Re: [qubes-users] XFCE Application menu

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2. Oct 2016 16:03 by evas...@openmailbox.org:


> Right click on the panel -> Panel -> Add New Items -> Launcher
> Now you can right click on new launcher icon and add any applications to it. 
> (also configure it)
>




Thanks Eve star but I am not sure this is sustainable, I would rather something 
that works with Qubes and will auto add and AppVM as I create them.




 

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[qubes-users] QVM Manager restart fails periodically

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Hello

I am testing the new "restart" feature in the Qubes VM Manager and noticing 
that it is a bit buggy.   There is one piece of the puzzle however that I can 
not figure out allowing me to replicate it consistently or narrow down why it 
fail some times

The first time I  select a VM and press "restart"  after an indeterminate time 
frame the restart will fail with the error below.   If I try and restart any 
number of other vm immediately after they will all restart ok.

error: 

  ---
  line: assert not vm.is_running() 
  func: start_vm
  line no.: 1158
  file: /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubesmanager/main.py
  
  line: self.caller.start_vm(vm)
  func: check_if_vm_has_shutdown
  line no.: 288
  file: /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubesmanager/main.py

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[qubes-users] XFCE Application menu

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hello everyone.  just upgraded to 3.2 and liking it.   one question I have..

Is there any reason (other than trust) not to install MenuLibre 
(https://smdavis.us/projects/menulibre) to dom0 so I can organize the 
application menu to do things like group the templates?   Or perhaps I am 
missing some already installed way with out having to manually edit config 
files?


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Re: [qubes-users] disposableVM not really disposable

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26. Jul 2016 23:14 by marma...@invisiblethingslab.com:

> Check file list in /var/lib/qubes/appvms/fedora-23-dvm. Especially date
> and permissions of volatile.img there.
>




It's actually fedora-23-stable-dvm based off a copy of the template




Here is the file list,  there is one noticeable difference when comparing it to 
fedora-23-dvm folder.    For my template volatile.img is chmod 600  while it is 
644 in fedora-23-dvm.   Changing the permissions to match 644 does not change 
anything, the problem still exists





total 503544
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jun  3 11:18 disp10.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jun  3 11:33 disp11.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jun  4 19:58 disp12.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jun  4 19:59 disp13.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jun  4 20:01 disp14.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 14 18:25 disp15.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 14 18:26 disp16.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 14 18:27 disp17.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 14 18:28 disp18.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 14 18:34 disp19.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1669 Jul 26 15:08 disp1.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 14 18:53 disp20.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 15 12:44 disp21.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 17 07:27 disp22.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 18 08:55 disp23.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 18 09:20 disp24.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 18 13:30 disp25.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 18 16:25 disp26.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 18 20:48 disp27.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 18 20:56 disp28.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 11:47 disp29.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1669 Jul 26 15:58 disp2.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 15:23 disp30.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 15:31 disp31.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 15:35 disp32.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 15:36 disp33.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 15:44 disp34.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 15:52 disp35.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 16:19 disp36.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 17:02 disp37.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 17:14 disp38.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 18:13 disp39.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1669 Jul 26 17:25 disp3.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 19 20:07 disp40.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 20 08:07 disp41.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 20 16:30 disp42.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 21 09:49 disp43.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 21 12:00 disp44.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 21 12:01 disp45.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 21 12:02 disp46.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 21 12:05 disp47.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 21 12:05 disp48.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 21 12:06 disp49.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1669 Jul 26 18:34 disp4.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 21 14:15 disp50.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 21 15:09 disp51.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 22 09:23 disp52.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1671 Jul 22 09:24 disp53.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1669 Jul 26 18:51 disp5.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1669 Jul 26 19:59 disp6.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1669 May 30 12:16 disp7.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1669 Jun  2 20:15 disp8.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1670 Jun  2 20:15 disp9.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes   309223442 Jul 21 09:49 dvm-savefile
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1925 Jul 21 09:49 fedora-23-stable-dvm.conf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 user qubes  55 Mar 31 16:15 icon.png -> 
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/devices/appvm-gray.png
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes   1 Jul 21 09:49 netvm-id.txt
-rw-rw 1 user qubes  2147483648 Jul 21 09:49 private.img
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes    1024 Jul 21 09:49 saved-cows.tar
-rw--- 1 root qubes 12348030976 Jul 26 20:00 volatile.img
-rw-rw-r-- 1 user qubes  70 Mar 31 16:15 whitelisted-appmenus.list



 

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[qubes-users] disposableVM not really disposable

[cubit]

Heyya

I have discovered my disposableVM Firefox is not really disposable as history 
persists between sessions.

This came to notice as I have recently customized my browser, setting up a new 
start page and removing the hello and pocket buttons.  Though I have noticed 
similar issues before customization though did not think to check if history 
was being stored.

Over the last couple of days each time I start Firefox I get the "Well, this is 
embarrassing." error with a restore session tab for my home page.  I also get 
two other tabs to Mozilla pages => The first run page and a bit ironically a 
page showing the private browsing mode.

I opened the history tab today to discover I have 3 days worth of history 
stored in the browser.

I can work around this by doing a qvm-create-defalult-dvm   
but I would like to know what is the best way to fix this permanently.


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Re: [qubes-users]

[cubit]

14. Jul 2016 04:19 by qubenewb...@sigaint.org:


> I have signed up for the mailing list, but I havent "received" the thread 
> Id like to reply to.
>




Hi Qube Newb,  you will not easili be able to reply to any email threads that 
happened before you signed up, as as you noted you will not have receive 
them.





I do not see an easy way of requesting old email from google groups so in my 
mind there are two option, both having some downsides




1. reply via the google groups page 
(https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/qubes-users)  AFAIK this requires 
you to have a google account to reply from there




2. You could copy the contents / subject of email you want to reply to from 
the web interface of google groups.  This will break email threading and as a 
result it will not be seen as part of the same conversation by the google 
groups web interface and not grouped with the other emails in the 
conversation,  similarly any email client that does a threading view will 
have it separate from the original thread.




Maybe others have better suggestions






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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Bridge Network

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8. Jul 2016 06:47 by drew.qu...@gmail.com:

> I would be interested in a discussion, but not a public one.
>




Just what a community wants to see, someone willing to take but not 
contribute back to it when they can.









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Re: [qubes-users] Re: issues in 3.2

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2. Jul 2016 08:02 by drew.qu...@gmail.com:

> I'll list the rest in time, no need to overload you with the bugs.




Now would be a good time. If you don't make the bugs know they may not be 
found until after 3.2 is released.


 

> I wish it was at least tested before it came out to the public though.
>
>

3.2 is only a release candidate at the moment, it is not for public use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Release_candidate



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Re: [qubes-users] Change Inter-VM Copy/Paste Shortcut?

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25. Jun 2016 16:47 by ryan.ken...@gmail.com:

> I *think* what I'd like to do is use Windows_Key (Meta) + C for copy, but 
> so far I haven't figured out how to get that to work. "Meta" didn't work in 
> the config file noted above.
>




To use the Windows Key, it is `Mod4`




"Mod4-c"

"Mod4-v"






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