Re: [Radiant] SnS Requests Anyone?

2008-11-13 Thread Chris Parrish

Adam van den Hoven wrote:

Things I would like:
something like a separate field for copyright notices so that you can 
minimize the JS/CSS without loosing (someone else's) copyright notice.


You can accomplish this today by bundling multiple assets.  For instance:

--- JS file #1:  prototype.js (not minified) ---

/*  Prototype JavaScript framework, version 1.6.0
*  (c) 2005-2007 Sam Stephenson
*
*  Prototype is freely distributable under the terms of an MIT-style license.
*  For details, see the Prototype web site: http://www.prototypejs.org/
*
*--*/



--- JS file #2:  prototype.js.content (this has 'minify?' checked) ---

... the rest of the prototype lib goes in here ...


That would serve up the prototype library just as you requested as 
'prototype.js'





support for external libraries
I really just want 1 tag to use for all these assets
they can be always "as link"
If you really want to be cool, "know" ahead of time all the important 
libraries and their versions (kinda like how the google Ajax Libraries 
API works -- http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxlibs/) so I can do 


But also just http://scriptsite.com/somelibrary"; />


Sounds neat -- though I'm *positive* you don't want me anywhere near any 
project that requires constant maintenance to keep up-to-date with the 
latest libraries.


Couple of questions, though:

   * If you know the url, what's the benefit of using the  tag?  I mean sure, it renders the link for you but that's not
 so bad to type manually.
   * How would it be helpful for SnS to have it's own list of libraries
 when the Google api you offered already does this?

I'm really not trying to beat the "you can already do this" drum, but 
why not just type:


 http://www.google.com/jsapi";>
 
   google.load("prototype", "1.6");
   google.load("scriptaculous", "1.8.1");
 

Or, if you want to keep your list of google.load's in their own 
javascript file (named, say, "google.loads"), you could just:


 http://www.google.com/jsapi";>
 


I want to make sure I'm understanding your ideas.  (Thanks for the tip 
on google, BTW.  I've never used that and think that it'd be a nice 
addition -- looks like they even minify stuff for us).

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Re: [Radiant] Articles extension

2008-11-13 Thread Adam van den Hoven
Be very careful about this before you go down this road. You may put  
in more effort than you get put of it.  That being said, I'd look at  
the archive extension. This is probably the route you want to take:  
modifying the behaviour of a page. This should "play well" with pages.


Adam
On 13-Nov-08, at 5:21 PM, Philip Arndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi everyone,

I'm working on a site at the moment where the next thing I'll need  
to build is an extension to have "articles"
These are pretty much the same as pages but need to have different  
groupings etc.


Does anybody know of any existing extension that will do this or  
most of this and could be added to?
Otherwise, once I'm done, I'll see if I can make what I get done  
public.  But it'd be nice if somebody has already done that!


Cheers
Phil
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Re: [Radiant] Articles extension

2008-11-13 Thread Mohit Sindhwani

Philip Arndt wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on a site at the moment where the next thing I'll need to 
build is an extension to have "articles"
These are pretty much the same as pages but need to have different 
groupings etc.
I'd have thought that if each article belongs to 1 category, then it's a 
regular hierarchical page - just create the parent and add children 
under it.  On the other hand, if an article belongs to multiple 
categories, you could use something like the tagging extension.  More 
detail about how to tag with Radiant is in the Summer Reboot article 
about Using radiant as a blog.

http://wiki.radiantcms.org/Using_Radiant_as_a_Blog

Cheers,
Mohit.
11/14/2008 | 9:32 AM.

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[Radiant] Articles extension

2008-11-13 Thread Philip Arndt

Hi everyone,

I'm working on a site at the moment where the next thing I'll need to  
build is an extension to have "articles"
These are pretty much the same as pages but need to have different  
groupings etc.


Does anybody know of any existing extension that will do this or most  
of this and could be added to?
Otherwise, once I'm done, I'll see if I can make what I get done  
public.  But it'd be nice if somebody has already done that!


Cheers
Phil
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Re: [Radiant] Comment extension

2008-11-13 Thread Mohit Sindhwani

Luiz Biagi wrote:

Hi I'm trying to use the Extension for comments:
http://github.com/artofmission/radiant-comments/tree/master
I want to view the commentaries and the comment insertion frame only when
i'm in the article visualization, I mean, when I'm in the article link, not
the articles (main page), but I'm having some problems, the " " are apearing in the main page, please help me!
  
Sounds like you have refered to the comments snippet somehow.  I'm not 
sure what you've done, but a few things might be:
1. You refer to the comments snippet in the layout and both pages 
(articles and the main page) use the same layout.  So, comments show in 
both pages.  Fix: Create a different layout for the articles.
2. Your main page does something that includes the body of the article 
and the body of the article has the comments in it.


If this doesn't help, we'll need to see what your main page's content 
area looks like and how you refer to the comments.


Cheers,
Mohit.
11/14/2008 | 9:00 AM.

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Re: [Radiant] Importing & Exporting

2008-11-13 Thread Mohit Sindhwani

Anton Aylward wrote:

Hi Anton,


Mohit Sindhwani said the following on 11/13/2008 02:01 PM:
  
 So far, I'm using SQLite, so I just 
move the database between my PC and the demo site.  



How lucky you are!  I tried that, moving from my laptop to my ISP and it
didn't work.

Probably because my laptop runs a 32-bit processor and my ISP runs a
64-bit.  Or possibly an OS clash.  Or ...
  
That is very strange!  SQLite is supposed to be binary compatible - sure 
it wasn't a problem with extensions?



No dump-restore is the way to go!
  
I notice that you have a version management plugin for Radiant.  What 
are you using?


Cheers,
Mohit.
11/14/2008 | 8:55 AM.


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Re: [Radiant] SnS Requests Anyone?

2008-11-13 Thread Adam van den Hoven

Things I would like:
something like a separate field for copyright notices so that you can  
minimize the JS/CSS without loosing (someone else's) copyright notice.

support for external libraries
I really just want 1 tag to use for all these assets
they can be always "as link"
If you really want to be cool, "know" ahead of time all the important  
libraries and their versions (kinda like how the google Ajax Libraries  
API works -- http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxlibs/) so I can do  


But also just http://scriptsite.com/somelibrary"; />

Adam


On 13-Nov-08, at 3:31 PM, Andrew Neil wrote:



I'm getting ready to roll out a new SnS version this weekend with  
some bug fixes and a column name change (requested and implemented  
by Andrew Neil to help it work with his file_system extension).


As Chris says, I have been working on integrating file_system  
functionality into SnS. The column name change was simply to avoid a  
naming conflict between the two extensions, but it shouldn't cause  
any perceptible change in the behaviour of SnS.


My file_system/SnS integration is not ready for release yet, but I  
shall announce it here when it is.


Since I'm doing that, are there any other issues/feature requests  
out there?  Now would be a good time to entertain those.


I was going to suggest asset packaging... but then I had another  
look at the README and saw that it was already there!


Cheers,
Drew
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Re: [Radiant] SnS Requests Anyone?

2008-11-13 Thread Andrew Neil


I'm getting ready to roll out a new SnS version this weekend with  
some bug fixes and a column name change (requested and implemented  
by Andrew Neil to help it work with his file_system extension).


As Chris says, I have been working on integrating file_system  
functionality into SnS. The column name change was simply to avoid a  
naming conflict between the two extensions, but it shouldn't cause any  
perceptible change in the behaviour of SnS.


My file_system/SnS integration is not ready for release yet, but I  
shall announce it here when it is.


Since I'm doing that, are there any other issues/feature requests  
out there?  Now would be a good time to entertain those.


I was going to suggest asset packaging... but then I had another look  
at the README and saw that it was already there!


Cheers,
Drew
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Re: [Radiant] Importing & Exporting

2008-11-13 Thread Adam van den Hoven


On 13-Nov-08, at 2:00 PM, Chris Parrish wrote:


  * It's simple (read: non-technical users love it)
  * It's db-independent so if my local development environment is
Sqlite3 but my server is MySQL or PostgreSQL (or I want to change
databases/servers some day) it's no sweat to move content around.
  * It's collects all of the content (this means styles and scripts
ala SnS, and whatever fun extensions I choose to add in the  
future).

  * My site's content can be fully restored via import.
  * Ideally it's in a human readable format so if it's kept in an scm,
diff tools can identify changes.
  * Bonus points for packaging all the files up nicely (like a zip or
tarball for download).
  * Bonus points for managing asset files such as images images
(though I'm not holding my breath here).


It seems to me that you want to keep a copy of everything in an svn  
repo so why not simply symlink your assets directory from the  
repository directory and symlink db/export from the SAME repository.  
Paperclipped (or what ever) will store all its changes in the symlink  
and the super_export (which is the only one of the two that will work  
for this) will put its files there too. Now you simply have to svn add  
and svn commit and you're laughing.



Adam
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[Radiant] Comment extension

2008-11-13 Thread Luiz Biagi
Hi I'm trying to use the Extension for comments:
http://github.com/artofmission/radiant-comments/tree/master
I want to view the commentaries and the comment insertion frame only when
i'm in the article visualization, I mean, when I'm in the article link, not
the articles (main page), but I'm having some problems, the " " are apearing in the main page, please help me!

Thank you guys
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Re: [Radiant] Importing & Exporting

2008-11-13 Thread john

On 2008/11/13, at 15:00, Chris Parrish wrote:


  * Bonus points for managing asset files such as images images
(though I'm not holding my breath here).


I've found page attachments using Amazon S3 as the storage backend  
alleviates all of the issues I had surrounding tracking static assets.

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Re: [Radiant] Importing & Exporting

2008-11-13 Thread Andrew Neil

Chris,

The import_export extension[1] captures every model in the database  
within one big yaml file. By default this is saved as db/export.yml.


Pros:
* very portable

Cons:
* if you want to edit the records captured in the yaml, they can be  
quite difficult to find



The super_export extension[2] captures every model in the database in  
its own file. The file format is like this:


/db/export/:model_name/:id.yml

Pros:
* it is easier to locate individual records, should you want to edit  
them


Cons:
* less portable export format than a single yaml file

There is no harm in installing both extensions, playing around with  
them and deciding which you prefer. They can both co-exist happily. Of  
course, things could get confusing if you keep a stale db copy in one  
format...


If your assets are stored on the filesystem, then neither of these  
extensions will be able to assist in backing them up. I don't know how  
they would fare if you were storing your assets in the db...


I hope that helps.

Cheers,
Drew


[1]: http://github.com/radiant/radiant-import-export-extension/tree/master
[2]: http://github.com/Aissac/radiant-super-export-extension/tree/master


On 13 Nov 2008, at 22:00, Chris Parrish wrote:

One of the problems with Radiant being so extensible is that it  
attracts a lot of software geek-types.  ;-)  It's no issue for me to  
do a db dump/restore but I couldn't give that job to my assistant.


Plus I'm not sure that that's a friendly format for, say, version  
controlling a site's content.


Anyway, sorry for not being more clear. My goals here are:

  * It's simple (read: non-technical users love it)
  * It's db-independent so if my local development environment is
Sqlite3 but my server is MySQL or PostgreSQL (or I want to change
databases/servers some day) it's no sweat to move content around.
  * It's collects all of the content (this means styles and scripts
ala SnS, and whatever fun extensions I choose to add in the  
future).

  * My site's content can be fully restored via import.
  * Ideally it's in a human readable format so if it's kept in an scm,
diff tools can identify changes.
  * Bonus points for packaging all the files up nicely (like a zip or
tarball for download).
  * Bonus points for managing asset files such as images images
(though I'm not holding my breath here).

And I'd really *love* it if someone could tell me the difference  
between import_export and super_export (which I think does import  
too).


-Chris


Mohit Sindhwani wrote:

Chris Parrish wrote:
I'm looking for a good way to backup/restore all of my content for  
a Radiant App.  I'm want something that collects all the data  
(including extension models).


I'm aware of Import-Export and Super Import-Export but I can't  
seem to find anything that clearly spells out the differences.  Is  
anyone familiar with both solutions (or any other ones you'd  
recommend)?  I could use some tips.
Would a database dump not help?  So far, I'm using SQLite, so I  
just move the database between my PC and the demo site.  But, I  
would have thought that a database dump would manage 'almost'  
everything.  The only thing that gets left behind, unfortunately,  
is the stuff in public... and I don't know how Page Attachments /  
Gallery would work across database dumps and restores.


I need to think about this not too far in the future... in a way,  
it's good that you're ahead!


Cheers,
Mohit.
11/14/2008 | 2:58 AM.

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Re: [Radiant] Importing & Exporting

2008-11-13 Thread Chris Parrish
One of the problems with Radiant being so extensible is that it attracts 
a lot of software geek-types.  ;-)  It's no issue for me to do a db 
dump/restore but I couldn't give that job to my assistant.


Plus I'm not sure that that's a friendly format for, say, version 
controlling a site's content.


Anyway, sorry for not being more clear. My goals here are:

   * It's simple (read: non-technical users love it)
   * It's db-independent so if my local development environment is
 Sqlite3 but my server is MySQL or PostgreSQL (or I want to change
 databases/servers some day) it's no sweat to move content around.
   * It's collects all of the content (this means styles and scripts
 ala SnS, and whatever fun extensions I choose to add in the future).
   * My site's content can be fully restored via import.
   * Ideally it's in a human readable format so if it's kept in an scm,
 diff tools can identify changes.
   * Bonus points for packaging all the files up nicely (like a zip or
 tarball for download).
   * Bonus points for managing asset files such as images images
 (though I'm not holding my breath here).

And I'd really *love* it if someone could tell me the difference between 
import_export and super_export (which I think does import too).


-Chris


Mohit Sindhwani wrote:

Chris Parrish wrote:
I'm looking for a good way to backup/restore all of my content for a 
Radiant App.  I'm want something that collects all the data 
(including extension models).


I'm aware of Import-Export and Super Import-Export but I can't seem 
to find anything that clearly spells out the differences.  Is anyone 
familiar with both solutions (or any other ones you'd recommend)?  I 
could use some tips.
Would a database dump not help?  So far, I'm using SQLite, so I just 
move the database between my PC and the demo site.  But, I would have 
thought that a database dump would manage 'almost' everything.  The 
only thing that gets left behind, unfortunately, is the stuff in 
public... and I don't know how Page Attachments / Gallery would work 
across database dumps and restores.


I need to think about this not too far in the future... in a way, it's 
good that you're ahead!


Cheers,
Mohit.
11/14/2008 | 2:58 AM.

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Re: [Radiant] Importing & Exporting

2008-11-13 Thread Anton Aylward
Mohit Sindhwani said the following on 11/13/2008 02:01 PM:

>  So far, I'm using SQLite, so I just 
> move the database between my PC and the demo site.  

How lucky you are!  I tried that, moving from my laptop to my ISP and it
didn't work.

Probably because my laptop runs a 32-bit processor and my ISP runs a
64-bit.  Or possibly an OS clash.  Or ...

No dump-restore is the way to go!

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Re: [Radiant] Importing & Exporting

2008-11-13 Thread Mohit Sindhwani

Chris Parrish wrote:
I'm looking for a good way to backup/restore all of my content for a 
Radiant App.  I'm want something that collects all the data (including 
extension models).


I'm aware of Import-Export and Super Import-Export but I can't seem to 
find anything that clearly spells out the differences.  Is anyone 
familiar with both solutions (or any other ones you'd recommend)?  I 
could use some tips.
Would a database dump not help?  So far, I'm using SQLite, so I just 
move the database between my PC and the demo site.  But, I would have 
thought that a database dump would manage 'almost' everything.  The only 
thing that gets left behind, unfortunately, is the stuff in public... 
and I don't know how Page Attachments / Gallery would work across 
database dumps and restores.


I need to think about this not too far in the future... in a way, it's 
good that you're ahead!


Cheers,
Mohit.
11/14/2008 | 2:58 AM.

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[Radiant] Importing & Exporting

2008-11-13 Thread Chris Parrish
I'm looking for a good way to backup/restore all of my content for a 
Radiant App.  I'm want something that collects all the data (including 
extension models).


I'm aware of Import-Export and Super Import-Export but I can't seem to 
find anything that clearly spells out the differences.  Is anyone 
familiar with both solutions (or any other ones you'd recommend)?  I 
could use some tips.



-Chris
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[Radiant] [Fwd: [Radiant-Dev] Re: Conditional Tags Tutorial?]

2008-11-13 Thread Chris Parrish
Adam Asked this on the Radiant-Dev list but I thought it might be more 
applicable here...



Fair enough.

Anyone with any other votes?  Or questions you'd like answered in a 
tutorial?



-Chris

Adam van den Hoven wrote:
Chris, 

One of the things that is missing from your recent two extensions 
(both Conditional Tags and Variables) is a tutorial. While gawking at 
your code is not a /bad/ way to figure out how to do it, I'd like to 
have more information about the reasons why you would expose something 
through the evaluator and so on. 

So I'd like to make the following (cheeky?) suggestion. Take an 
existing, non trivial extension (my vote is for paperclipped) and 
write a tutorial showing step by step what one would do to create a 
separate extension to add conditional evaluators to it. I would 
include things like "What is the best way to write  tests/specs for 
each evaluator" as i suspect its not /entirely / clear. This should 
give us enough information to start using Conditional Tags in our own 
extensions. 


Adam!

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Re: [Radiant] Radiant Template Contest Extended

2008-11-13 Thread Mohit Sindhwani

Hi Sean

Sean Cribbs wrote:
I have decided to extend the Template Contest deadline to January 1, 
2009.  Sadly, we received no entries by the October 31 deadline.  In 
order to spark your imagination, here are some suggestions for 
templates you might make:


* Corporate brochure-ware
* Artist portfolio
* Blog or 'zine
* Podcast (with in-page media player?)
* Tutorials or documentation

If you have started working on one, please finish and submit it.  If 
you haven't started, here's your chance!




That is a great idea.  I've been inching along on a small simple 
corporate (SME) website kind of thing (in fact, to be honest, I was 
working on it when your mail came in) and have been hoping to send it in 
to you.  It won't be flashy, but it will work.


Cheers,
Mohit.
11/14/2008 | 12:16 AM.

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[Radiant] Radiant Template Contest Extended

2008-11-13 Thread Sean Cribbs
I have decided to extend the Template Contest deadline to January 1, 
2009.  Sadly, we received no entries by the October 31 deadline.  In 
order to spark your imagination, here are some suggestions for templates 
you might make:


* Corporate brochure-ware
* Artist portfolio
* Blog or 'zine
* Podcast (with in-page media player?)
* Tutorials or documentation

If you have started working on one, please finish and submit it.  If you 
haven't started, here's your chance!


Cheers,

Sean
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[Radiant] How to use the -tag?

2008-11-13 Thread Simon Rönnqvist

  Hi!

I tried to figure out how to use the -tag, but  
couldn't find any effect no matter where I put it in the form  
template... and no matter what I used as a redirect_to (I also tried  
without one and having the form page as the redirect_to page).


I used it like this: Thanks!


Another thing that I noticed is that there's no real explanation to  
how you call variables in the email templates: http://github.com/radiant/radiant-mailer-extension/tree/master 
 ...apart from  showing up in the list of  
tags that can be used in the form, which isn't really accurate.  
However I figured this one out by looking in the comments in the code,  
as the handbook recommends. :)


  cheers, Simon
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Re: [Radiant] Tags extension: move to latest edge breaks db migration

2008-11-13 Thread Benny Degezelle
> The task rake db:migration breaks on a file of the Tags extensions if I
> move to latest edge. http://pastie.org/312887
>
>
> /simon


Hi Simon,

Quite sure that this is caused by a change in rails; rails 2.1.1 moved
module Dependencies to ActiveSupport::Dependencies
I'm swamped as ever at the moment, and not working with edge anytime soon..
Could you try this and let me know if it worked? Or even better fork and
send a pull request on github;

The patch would be to update
vendor/extensions/tags/vendor/plugins/has_many_polymorphs/lib/has_many_polymorphs/dependencies.rb
so that the first line

module Dependencies

reads

module ActiveSupport::Dependencies

Not sure how to make this backwards-compatible though..

Regards,
Benny Degezelle

Gorilla webdesign
www.gorilla-webdesign.be
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