[RBW] Re: NS bag and Nitto rack FS
Howabout $80 shipped for the bag? Anyone? On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: Rack is sold but the bag is still available-price drop to $90 shipped. http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532217756/lightbox/ Thanks, Steve On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.comwrote: I also have the Nigel Smithe greed tweed rackpack and the Nitto Campee rack from Anne's Bleriot available. They're like new. I'd like $130 shipped for the rack, $110 for the bag, or $220 for both Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532268503/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11532217756/lightbox/ And the bike before the parts and accessories came off: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738390@N08/11463313625/lightbox/ Thanks! Prices negotiable on all this, BTW. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS - Nitto, Tubus, Compass Tires, Paul, and more
Been doing some garage cleaning (and soul searching about various projects) thus have some up with a bunch of parts for projects that are never going to happen. Shipping included where indicated. The bigger items are really dependent on how far you are from the SF Area. I can combo shipping and we can work out something if you want more than one item with included shipping. RACKS: Nitto R-15 rack. Great shape. $90 shipped Tubus Cosmo Rack. Great shape. Uncut silver stays with silver mounts. $100 shipped BRAKES: Paul Touring canti brakes - anodized silver, black koolstop pads, new straddle wires plus some extra o-rings. $110 shipped Paul Love Lever Compact pair - new. Silver anodized. For linear-pull brakes. $80 shipped Paul Love Lever 2.5 pair - new. Silver anodized. For linear-pull brakes. $80 shipped WHEELS: 650B wheelset. Rich built. Synergy / Deore LX. 32-spoke. With skewers. Light use. Really nice shape. $250 plus shipping. 700c rear wheel - Handspun built. New in box. Mavic A319 / Deore LX. 36-spoke. $110 shipped 700c wheelset - Twin Hollow / Tiagra. 32-spoke. From Riv so FL built. Little use. $120 plus shipping TIRES: Compass Tires 26 x 1.75 Pair. new in packages - $100 shipped Schwalbe Marathon Green Guard HS368 Pair - 650B x 42. new, never mounted. $40 shipped Fatty Rumpkin Kevlar bead Single. New in package. $35 shipped Conti Tour Ride 650B x 54 Pair. Light use. Great shape. $35 shipped MISC: Trico Iron Case - Never used. Perfect shape. Great bike shipping case for up to 63cm bike. $200 plus shipping. Yepp Mini front mount child seat. Orange. New in box. All hardware, $105 shipped. - PayPal is the best way to handle a transaction. Personal/gift preferred unless you have moral issues with it. Local SF Area pickup/drop off is possible. Pictures on request. More to come Dan -Marin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: 55 Bosco and maybe some brass ferrules
WTB: 55 Bosco and maybe some brass ferrules. Just like it says. Thanks in advance. - Captain Conway -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE
The way I wrapped my head around it is that 3 ( at least ) different phenomena are involved; tire internal friction, tire contact patch ( external friction ), and vibration damping of the entire assembly ( Tires, Bike, Human). At very low pressure tire internal friction is high and tire contact patch is large but vibration is absorbed at the tire ( and not transmitted up into the assembly). Within moderate pressure there are sweet spots where the balance optimizes for low rolling resistance and low levels of vibration passing up into the assembly ( fast and comfortable ) . At high moderate no one is happy ( tire is still flexing, contact patch is still relatively large, and a lot of the vibration is passing up to be damped by the human in the assembly). At very high pressure internal friction is very low ( no flex in the tire ), external friction is very low ( contact patch has become tiny ), and vibration is transmitted almost directly into the assembly. The balance is out of whack but favors low rolling resistance. What Jan has found is that with good tire design and half an eye on the pressures we can enjoy a large sweet spot where a low work load, a comfortable chair AND high productivity reside. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's
This topic reminded me of my first question to Rivendell. I emailed Jay Ritchey and asked him if the 52 cm Sam Hillborne could be built with 700c wheels so that you could use the frameset as both a 650b fat tire bike and a 700c skinny tire bike. Jay replied that he thought there was enough room but that this was perhaps the most pointless idea ever proposed. Sometime later another Rivendell employee did put 700c wheels on his 650b Hilsen and when Grant put the picture on the Staff Bike page he wrote something like ‘don’t you do this’. On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 4:55:01 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote: If you have them, how often do you take advantage of multiple wheelset's on a bike? So far in my bike tinkering I have usually been limited by multiple wheel sizes or rear drop outs to making each build a stand alone, frame specific function. I have this thought that significant interchangeability among multiple bikes would be some kind of nirvana... I'm curious to hear anyone who has it or has at some point had it on whether you really took advantage of it. Right now between 6 active bikes and a tandem (two are my wife's) I have 27(1), 26(2), 700C(2) and 650B(2) wheel sizes and 130/135 OLD represented, among those 3 or 4 bikes could fit the wheel's off of one other bike but in practice I'm not doing any wheel swaps as each one is built up and shod with a tire that matches the frame's intended function and I don't have any spare wheelset's at present. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's
That's the way to do it. I've seriously considered selling all my track wheels and starting again with wider rims. But that's enough scratch to buy a good used bike... Which only compounds the mismatched wheels problem! Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Mixte frame design question
There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
Maybe it has to do with the angles of available lugs? cheers, Andrew (Painstakingly pecked out on my iPhone; please pardon my brevity and tpyos.) On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:27, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Roadeo 59cm; Phil Wood, Nitto, Sugino, Brooks, etc.
Thank you for the compliment and well-wishiing! I'm officially dropping the price to $3500, and will entertain offers! Adam On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 12:08:08 PM UTC-5, SeanMac wrote: Adam, Good luck with the new baby. He/she will be a wonderful addition to your life. Your bike is beautiful. If I had the spare cash I would be delighted to take it off of your hands. Unfortunately, my bank account does not allow me to help you out right now. Best of luck. Sean On Sunday, January 5, 2014 1:19:43 PM UTC-5, Adam DeFayette wrote: $3750; price includes professional packing shipping. Pictures: https://plus.google.com/photos/101616295581563373309/albums/5965472136228528865 This is a very lightly used Quickbeam Green Roadeo. I purchased this from the first run of Roadeos, and only road it a few hundred miles over the last few summers in Upstate New York. This green/cream-colored frame is offset with lots of antique brown leather, and nickel-colored components. The overall effect is very beautiful; one of my best designed bikes, and I'm sorry to have to sell it. Why I'm selling? My wife and I are are expecting a child soon, and I am liquidating my stuff so that we can put away some savings. I will miss this bike, and really wish that I had ridden it more. Everything is in like-new condition. There are a couple tiny scratches in the paint, and I have pictured them - nothing serious or very noticeable, and certainly no dents. Honestly, I did not even notice them until looking the bike over for sale. The frame was treated with T9 per Rivendell's method. Estimated value new is upwards of $4750. Save yourself a grand, and the wait time! I have included pictures from various times in the bike's life - the most recent pictures are the indoors series against the brick wall. Components: (Prices are mostly current Riv Prices) Brooks B17 Narrow Saddle ($108) [great condition, hardly broken-in] Tange-Levin Headset ($60) Nitto S-83 Seat Post ($97) Brooks Challenge Seat Bag ($90) Shimano Tiagra Brakes Levers ($110) Two (2) King Bottle Cages ($36) Nitto Technomic Stem 10cm ($50) Silver Shifters ($78) Phil Wood Bottom Bracket ($138) Wheels: Phil Hubs (Freewheel) laced with DT Competition Double-Butted Spokes to Velocity Aerohead Rims ($700) Challenge Parigi/Roubaix 23mm Tires ($150) Sugino Mighty Tour Crankset, 170mm, 34/50T ($300) Shimano Freewheel 7spd, 13-28 F($20) Nitto 42cm 'Dream' Handlebar ($80) Campagnolo Mirage Front Deraileur ($50) Shimano XT Rear Derailleur ($100) VP Thin Gripster Pedals ($67) Lots of Extras: Blinkies, Schwalbe Tubes, Cateye Strada Cyclometer, Soma mini-pump, Brass Bell, VO Skewers, Leather Bar Tape, Cables Housing ($100-$200) Questions? Comments? Contact me here, or email me at adam.de...@gmail.com Thank you for your interest! Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's
Interesting. Did Riv think it was a bad idea to swap back and forth because of BB height? When I tried 650B on my Riv Road, I kept my 700C wheels and short-reach brakes with the intention of being able to swap back and forth between Lierres and Ruffy Tuffy's. It turns out, I love the 650B Lierres and have never swapped back! Now the Phil Rivy/Ruffy Tuffy wheels have found a temporary home on a bike for my daughter. Tim On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 1:55 PM, redsydude thaus...@q.com wrote: This topic reminded me of my first question to Rivendell. I emailed Jay Ritchey and asked him if the 52 cm Sam Hillborne could be built with 700c wheels so that you could use the frameset as both a 650b fat tire bike and a 700c skinny tire bike. Jay replied that he thought there was enough room but that this was perhaps the most pointless idea ever proposed. Sometime later another Rivendell employee did put 700c wheels on his 650b Hilsen and when Grant put the picture on the Staff Bike page he wrote something like ‘don’t you do this’. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
I've noticed that kink as well. I also prefer the look of a single diagonal line; that's why the diagatube Bombadil and Appaloosa look so good. According to Sheldon Brown et al, in a true mixte frame the diagonal element is actually two stays from rear dropout to head tube. Has Riv ever considered doing a true mixte? http://sheldonbrown.com/images/mixte-supercourse.jpg Although, I'd bet that suitable tubing would be a custom order, as the mixte diagatubes are usually seat stay diameter but quite long. Tim On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: Maybe it has to do with the angles of available lugs? cheers, Andrew (Painstakingly pecked out on my iPhone; please pardon my brevity and tpyos.) On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:27, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.
In my opinion, the sidewall was not cut. It appears to have delaminated. The fibers are layered in cross hatch pattern and the layers separated allowing the blowout to occur. There was no brake contact with the side wall and no sign of any abrasion or cutting of the sidewall. The blowout was not preceded by any unusual impact and (in hindsight) the delamination occurred over several miles. (Speaking of which, the incident taught me that if a tire starts to develop a once a rotation thump. Stop immediately and find the cause.) On a related point, one concern with riding a 650 B tire is that it is not a standard size and is therefore hard if not impossible to replace on the road. If this were a 26 or 700C any bike shop or sporting good store could provide a (temporary) replacement but with 650B that is not an option. Since this occurred I swiched to SOMA B (with Kevlar) and carry a tire patch. No tire is slower than a tire with a blown sidewall. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.
Another rider gave me one of those and it worked initially. I added the duct tape when I saw slight bulge develop and did not want to risk another blowout because I did not have another boot and I have over one hundred miles left to ride. I now carry a couple just in case. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's
Combining this thread with that on only one bike, many years ago I tried to make one bike (steel mtb) suitable for all uses with 3 different wheelsets, all with identical rims but with different cassettes and tires. The cockpit was the same: AT4 bars and saddle, both set up for road riding. Knobby wheelset with 13-28; Fatboy wheelset with 13-21; and 26 X 1 Turbo wheelset with 12-19. At one point I thought I'd be able to use just two sorts of cassettes (13-21) with a Mountain Tamer Quad, but to no avail. Eventually I realized that nothing works on the road like a good road bike, so I stopped trying to do all with one. Notably, the mountain bikes (Supergo, Specialized Stumpjumper Comp and Team) handled badly with 1 tires. Later I augmented the Fargo's 44 mm SnoCat SL dirt wheelset with a Rhyno Lite road wheelset (the disk brakes took care of brake compatibility) and used both about equally; this was before the Ram took over loaded errand duties from the Fargo, now limited to off road. I can see augmenting the Fargo's older Open Pro wheelset with something 36 hole and beefier for possible touring duties. On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I know swapping wheelsets is faster than simply changing tires, but is it really THAT much faster, especially given the number of times in a year you’re really going to swap for different purposes? I’m pretty sure I could change a pair of tires in the warmth and comfort of my shop in 10 or 15 minutes (not, as Steve P says, that I actually do that, afflicted as I am by the dread n+1 disease – multiple wheelset utility mooted by multiple bikes). *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony DeFilippo *Sent:* Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:55 AM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's If you have them, how often do you take advantage of multiple wheelset's on a bike? So far in my bike tinkering I have usually been limited by multiple wheel sizes or rear drop outs to making each build a stand alone, frame specific function. I have this thought that significant interchangeability among multiple bikes would be some kind of nirvana... I'm curious to hear anyone who has it or has at some point had it on whether you really took advantage of it. Right now between 6 active bikes and a tandem (two are my wife's) I have 27(1), 26(2), 700C(2) and 650B(2) wheel sizes and 130/135 OLD represented, among those 3 or 4 bikes could fit the wheel's off of one other bike but in practice I'm not doing any wheel swaps as each one is built up and shod with a tire that matches the frame's intended function and I don't have any spare wheelset's at present. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's
Forgot to add, of course: still hope to repeat the multiple wheel syndrome if and when I get S3X hubs for the Riv fixies. Well, rear wheels, at least. Note that the whole point of additional wheels is to avoid the hassle of simply changing tires, which you can't do if wheel swaps mean adjusting brakes. At least, that's my premise. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Combining this thread with that on only one bike, many years ago I tried to make one bike (steel mtb) suitable for all uses with 3 different wheelsets, all with identical rims but with different cassettes and tires. The cockpit was the same: AT4 bars and saddle, both set up for road riding. Knobby wheelset with 13-28; Fatboy wheelset with 13-21; and 26 X 1 Turbo wheelset with 12-19. At one point I thought I'd be able to use just two sorts of cassettes (13-21) with a Mountain Tamer Quad, but to no avail. Eventually I realized that nothing works on the road like a good road bike, so I stopped trying to do all with one. Notably, the mountain bikes (Supergo, Specialized Stumpjumper Comp and Team) handled badly with 1 tires. Later I augmented the Fargo's 44 mm SnoCat SL dirt wheelset with a Rhyno Lite road wheelset (the disk brakes took care of brake compatibility) and used both about equally; this was before the Ram took over loaded errand duties from the Fargo, now limited to off road. I can see augmenting the Fargo's older Open Pro wheelset with something 36 hole and beefier for possible touring duties. On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I know swapping wheelsets is faster than simply changing tires, but is it really THAT much faster, especially given the number of times in a year you’re really going to swap for different purposes? I’m pretty sure I could change a pair of tires in the warmth and comfort of my shop in 10 or 15 minutes (not, as Steve P says, that I actually do that, afflicted as I am by the dread n+1 disease – multiple wheelset utility mooted by multiple bikes). *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony DeFilippo *Sent:* Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:55 AM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's If you have them, how often do you take advantage of multiple wheelset's on a bike? So far in my bike tinkering I have usually been limited by multiple wheel sizes or rear drop outs to making each build a stand alone, frame specific function. I have this thought that significant interchangeability among multiple bikes would be some kind of nirvana... I'm curious to hear anyone who has it or has at some point had it on whether you really took advantage of it. Right now between 6 active bikes and a tandem (two are my wife's) I have 27(1), 26(2), 700C(2) and 650B(2) wheel sizes and 130/135 OLD represented, among those 3 or 4 bikes could fit the wheel's off of one other bike but in practice I'm not doing any wheel swaps as each one is built up and shod with a tire that matches the frame's intended function and I don't have any spare wheelset's at present. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
The 55cm demo (congrats on getting it, Michael!) has the no-kink geometry, compared to the 50cm demo (kinky). I used to think the kink detracted from the look... but my mind's now used to the look, and the 55cm no-kink looks to be the outlier! I also think large frames w/o TT or diagatubes look strange now. Maybe if I look at MCRB long enough, they'll look fine, too? For fabricating a true mixte, the limitation is the lug-- Riv would have to use a different headlug and seat lug () or perhaps do a filet braze to the headtube? I think Liesl mentioned that her custom Appaloosa will have a diagatube of this sort. (As the frame is too small to have a Riv-normal diagatube.) Shoji On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:16:29 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: I've noticed that kink as well. I also prefer the look of a single diagonal line; that's why the diagatube Bombadil and Appaloosa look so good. According to Sheldon Brown et al, in a true mixte frame the diagonal element is actually two stays from rear dropout to head tube. Has Riv ever considered doing a true mixte? http://sheldonbrown.com/images/mixte-supercourse.jpg Although, I'd bet that suitable tubing would be a custom order, as the mixte diagatubes are usually seat stay diameter but quite long. Tim On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.netjavascript: wrote: Maybe it has to do with the angles of available lugs? cheers, Andrew (Painstakingly pecked out on my iPhone; please pardon my brevity and tpyos.) On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:27, BSWP asht...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Utility of Mulitple Wheelset's
I run my lights 24 hours a day to maximize visibility (unfortunately another one of my friends got killed in a bicycling accident last month). However, I do use my Shimano 700 hub for normal use, and I am going to build up an SON hub for long brevets (I saved a years worth of bicycling commuter checks to buy it!). Toshi in Oakland CA, where I am lucky enough to get $20 a month for bicycling purchases from work -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE
Of course you are quite right that this is of no importance when we go ride our bikes, but when experimental data seems to contradict our understanding of how something works I like to find at least a possible explanation. Don't you? I'm no engineer and my graduate degree has nothing to do with science. But will hazard to say it occurs to me that rubber and air can only yield so hard a surface before the tire explodes. Declining changes in figures from 140 to 200 could reflect that what you find at 140 is about all you are going to get with the component at hand. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
Yah, the 55 Cheviot shares the kink. At least it looks that way from the posted pics. I have gotten used to look as I have to see the 50 Betty in the garage every day. But I do prefer the straight line. Dan -Marin On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.comwrote: The 55cm demo (congrats on getting it, Michael!) has the no-kink geometry, compared to the 50cm demo (kinky). I used to think the kink detracted from the look... but my mind's now used to the look, and the 55cm no-kink looks to be the outlier! I also think large frames w/o TT or diagatubes look strange now. Maybe if I look at MCRB long enough, they'll look fine, too? For fabricating a true mixte, the limitation is the lug-- Riv would have to use a different headlug and seat lug () or perhaps do a filet braze to the headtube? I think Liesl mentioned that her custom Appaloosa will have a diagatube of this sort. (As the frame is too small to have a Riv-normal diagatube.) Shoji On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:16:29 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: I've noticed that kink as well. I also prefer the look of a single diagonal line; that's why the diagatube Bombadil and Appaloosa look so good. According to Sheldon Brown et al, in a true mixte frame the diagonal element is actually two stays from rear dropout to head tube. Has Riv ever considered doing a true mixte? http://sheldonbrown.com/images/mixte-supercourse.jpg Although, I'd bet that suitable tubing would be a custom order, as the mixte diagatubes are usually seat stay diameter but quite long. Tim On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: Maybe it has to do with the angles of available lugs? cheers, Andrew (Painstakingly pecked out on my iPhone; please pardon my brevity and tpyos.) On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:27, BSWP asht...@gmail.com wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.
@ ironrider: Feasable to carry a spare folding tire, just in case, on these types of long rides? Or are these problems too rare to worry about it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Non-scientific data point: tire pressure and Force Field Fatties
I pump my Force Field Fatty Rumpkins up to 40psi and re-inflate when it feels like they need it. They didn't feel like they needed it, but it had been a while. So I took my floor pump to them this morning, and the pressure in the tires didn't even register on the gauge. It was 6 or 8 pumps before they were up to even 20psi. Force Field Fatty Rumpkins do not feel 'supple' or 'fast', but they do feel extremely 'stout'. They have decent traction on dirt, in my experience and they run absolutely straight on Synergy rims, in my experience. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?
Hey group, just wanted to know if anyone on the list has tried out the Brooks Cambium/ C17? and how it might compare to a standard B17 in comfort. I know that its a little narrower(~10mm), but just wanted to get an idea of how the material feels when youre on it!thanks -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
Looking for some parts for a new to me San Marcos Frame/Fork: Brake: Shimano Tiagra sidepulls 9 speed cassette (11-32 or 11-34)... Sugino crank: wide/low double (40t x 26t)...thinking I might save a little weight going double, but not sure Deraillers: Shimano cx70 Front Shimano deore rear derailler Possibly a lightish wheelset for my jack browns...(130mm rear spacing) all my other sets are 135mm spacing wont fit... Frame/Fork was a Christmas present. Thinking of making this into a light-ish bike with albatross and bar end shifters. Looking for used but lots of life left parts. Don't really have the cash to buy all new. The frame is killing me just sitting here looking at me waiting to be builtArgg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.
Many have noted that using a 26 tube for a 650b tire is pretty common and entirely functional. 650b-specific tubes are ideal, but certainly not necessary. Since 26 tires are the most common of all, I would say it's quite possible to mitigate tire issues by either carrying a 26er with you or finding one en route. KJ On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:32:23 PM UTC-5, Iron Rider wrote: On a related point, one concern with riding a 650 B tire is that it is not a standard size and is therefore hard if not impossible to replace on the road. If this were a 26 or 700C any bike shop or sporting good store could provide a (temporary) replacement but with 650B that is not an option. Since this occurred I swiched to SOMA B (with Kevlar) and carry a tire patch. No tire is slower than a tire with a blown sidewall. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.
Kieran Iron Rider is specifically talking about the case where you have a non-repairable tire sidewall blowout on 650B. Since very few bike shops and zero sporting goods stores sell 650B tires, Iron Rider is making the point that you might be hosed in that situation. It's partially true with spokes, too. If you break a spoke on a 650B wheel, most bike shops don't have that length on the shelf. Many shops can make a spoke, but they can't make a tire. The clear advice is that all mechanical failures should be scheduled to occur within ~100ft of the front door of a bicycle shop that is open for business. You're welcome! ;-) On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:22:03 AM UTC-8, Kieran J wrote: Many have noted that using a 26 tube for a 650b tire is pretty common and entirely functional. 650b-specific tubes are ideal, but certainly not necessary. Since 26 tires are the most common of all, I would say it's quite possible to mitigate tire issues by either carrying a 26er with you or finding one en route. KJ On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:32:23 PM UTC-5, Iron Rider wrote: On a related point, one concern with riding a 650 B tire is that it is not a standard size and is therefore hard if not impossible to replace on the road. If this were a 26 or 700C any bike shop or sporting good store could provide a (temporary) replacement but with 650B that is not an option. Since this occurred I swiched to SOMA B (with Kevlar) and carry a tire patch. No tire is slower than a tire with a blown sidewall. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
It definitely looks as though they use the same lugs (for cost savings I assume), which just means the tubes, because of varying lengths, though at similar angles, meet at different points. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?
I had a C17 loaner out on my SimpleOne last month and wrote about it. It feels pretty similar to a B17 to me. http://thedailyrandonneur.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/brooks-cambium-c17-saddle-a-real-brooks/ Ed Washington, DC On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 1:39:10 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote: Hey group, just wanted to know if anyone on the list has tried out the Brooks Cambium/ C17? and how it might compare to a standard B17 in comfort. I know that its a little narrower(~10mm), but just wanted to get an idea of how the material feels when youre on it!thanks -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.
I've never had a blow out or a gash severe enough to warrant a tire boot. Regardless of what size tire you ride, the chances of encountering difficulty within 100 of an open bike shop are small, despite Bill's sage advice. I carry a cell phone for emergency extractions when the LZ gets too hot. Err, when I can't come up with some kind of hack or fix to limp home on. Having gone totally away from 700 to 650B, it's just never been a problem. On 1/8/2014 1:40 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: clear advice is that all mechanical failures should be scheduled to occur within ~100ft of the front door of a bicycle shop that is open for business. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.
Ha! That's funny Bill. I'll try to plan that out;-) It's a good point that Ironrider makes and I for one will start travelling with tire/boot patches and for long trips a fordable replacement. I imagine as the 650b size becomes more popular then bike stores will carry more selection. On the point about spokes, I was pricing out components to build a 650b wheel set and it seems that there are no 650b spokes available? Which size spoke do you use for a 650b build? Maybe once I read the answer it'll be a duh moment. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Kieran Iron Rider is specifically talking about the case where you have a non-repairable tire sidewall blowout on 650B. Since very few bike shops and zero sporting goods stores sell 650B tires, Iron Rider is making the point that you might be hosed in that situation. It's partially true with spokes, too. If you break a spoke on a 650B wheel, most bike shops don't have that length on the shelf. Many shops can make a spoke, but they can't make a tire. The clear advice is that all mechanical failures should be scheduled to occur within ~100ft of the front door of a bicycle shop that is open for business. You're welcome! ;-) On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:22:03 AM UTC-8, Kieran J wrote: Many have noted that using a 26 tube for a 650b tire is pretty common and entirely functional. 650b-specific tubes are ideal, but certainly not necessary. Since 26 tires are the most common of all, I would say it's quite possible to mitigate tire issues by either carrying a 26er with you or finding one en route. KJ On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:32:23 PM UTC-5, Iron Rider wrote: On a related point, one concern with riding a 650 B tire is that it is not a standard size and is therefore hard if not impossible to replace on the road. If this were a 26 or 700C any bike shop or sporting good store could provide a (temporary) replacement but with 650B that is not an option. Since this occurred I swiched to SOMA B (with Kevlar) and carry a tire patch. No tire is slower than a tire with a blown sidewall. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/f2LAG6k5qAo/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
Peter I have a lightly used 11-34t 9 speed cassette I could let go of for 10 bucks plus shipping, I think it will ship via small flat rate so about $6. Contact me at ryansub...@gmail.com if that works for you. Ryan On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:41:29 AM UTC-8, PeterG wrote: Looking for some parts for a new to me San Marcos Frame/Fork: Brake: Shimano Tiagra sidepulls 9 speed cassette (11-32 or 11-34)... Sugino crank: wide/low double (40t x 26t)...thinking I might save a little weight going double, but not sure Deraillers: Shimano cx70 Front Shimano deore rear derailler Possibly a lightish wheelset for my jack browns...(130mm rear spacing) all my other sets are 135mm spacing wont fit... Frame/Fork was a Christmas present. Thinking of making this into a light-ish bike with albatross and bar end shifters. Looking for used but lots of life left parts. Don't really have the cash to buy all new. The frame is killing me just sitting here looking at me waiting to be builtArgg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.
Well, the Kevlar FiberFix emergency spoke -- http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=707 -- should solve the 650B spoke problem. Unless they don't work (I carry them, but have never had to use one). But Sheldon says they work, so they must. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:40 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues. Kieran Iron Rider is specifically talking about the case where you have a non-repairable tire sidewall blowout on 650B. Since very few bike shops and zero sporting goods stores sell 650B tires, Iron Rider is making the point that you might be hosed in that situation. It's partially true with spokes, too. If you break a spoke on a 650B wheel, most bike shops don't have that length on the shelf. Many shops can make a spoke, but they can't make a tire. The clear advice is that all mechanical failures should be scheduled to occur within ~100ft of the front door of a bicycle shop that is open for business. You're welcome! ;-) On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:22:03 AM UTC-8, Kieran J wrote: Many have noted that using a 26 tube for a 650b tire is pretty common and entirely functional. 650b-specific tubes are ideal, but certainly not necessary. Since 26 tires are the most common of all, I would say it's quite possible to mitigate tire issues by either carrying a 26er with you or finding one en route. KJ On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:32:23 PM UTC-5, Iron Rider wrote: On a related point, one concern with riding a 650 B tire is that it is not a standard size and is therefore hard if not impossible to replace on the road. If this were a 26 or 700C any bike shop or sporting good store could provide a (temporary) replacement but with 650B that is not an option. Since this occurred I swiched to SOMA B (with Kevlar) and carry a tire patch. No tire is slower than a tire with a blown sidewall. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?
I wrote about mine on the list when I got it as a freebie from Brooks last year. In short pretty good but doesn't get better as a B-17 does. Here's a link to the thread... https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/C-17/rbw-owners-bunch/tvayozWOA-8/h2J_3QKKEFwJ Aloha, Bob On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:53 AM, dailyrandonneur eddie...@gmail.com wrote: I had a C17 loaner out on my SimpleOne last month and wrote about it. It feels pretty similar to a B17 to me. http://thedailyrandonneur.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/brooks-cambium-c17-saddle-a-real-brooks/ Ed Washington, DC On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 1:39:10 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote: Hey group, just wanted to know if anyone on the list has tried out the Brooks Cambium/ C17? and how it might compare to a standard B17 in comfort. I know that its a little narrower(~10mm), but just wanted to get an idea of how the material feels when youre on it!thanks -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.
I always use a spoke length calculator, Hugh, using the specific rim and hub I'm using. Señor Tinker has a link to a good one on his page. http://www.biketinker.com/ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Smitham Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:55 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues. Ha! That's funny Bill. I'll try to plan that out;-) It's a good point that Ironrider makes and I for one will start travelling with tire/boot patches and for long trips a fordable replacement. I imagine as the 650b size becomes more popular then bike stores will carry more selection. On the point about spokes, I was pricing out components to build a 650b wheel set and it seems that there are no 650b spokes available? Which size spoke do you use for a 650b build? Maybe once I read the answer it'll be a duh moment. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.commailto:tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Kieran Iron Rider is specifically talking about the case where you have a non-repairable tire sidewall blowout on 650B. Since very few bike shops and zero sporting goods stores sell 650B tires, Iron Rider is making the point that you might be hosed in that situation. It's partially true with spokes, too. If you break a spoke on a 650B wheel, most bike shops don't have that length on the shelf. Many shops can make a spoke, but they can't make a tire. The clear advice is that all mechanical failures should be scheduled to occur within ~100ft of the front door of a bicycle shop that is open for business. You're welcome! ;-) On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:22:03 AM UTC-8, Kieran J wrote: Many have noted that using a 26 tube for a 650b tire is pretty common and entirely functional. 650b-specific tubes are ideal, but certainly not necessary. Since 26 tires are the most common of all, I would say it's quite possible to mitigate tire issues by either carrying a 26er with you or finding one en route. KJ On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:32:23 PM UTC-5, Iron Rider wrote: On a related point, one concern with riding a 650 B tire is that it is not a standard size and is therefore hard if not impossible to replace on the road. If this were a 26 or 700C any bike shop or sporting good store could provide a (temporary) replacement but with 650B that is not an option. Since this occurred I swiched to SOMA B (with Kevlar) and carry a tire patch. No tire is slower than a tire with a blown sidewall. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/f2LAG6k5qAo/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:46:28 PM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote: For fabricating a true mixte, the limitation is the lug-- Riv would have to use a different headlug and seat lug () or perhaps do a filet braze to the headtube? I think Liesl mentioned that her custom Appaloosa will have a diagatube of this sort. (As the frame is too small to have a Riv-normal diagatube.) I noticed the lug on the Cheviot (this one: http://25.media.tumblr.com/122d0d1e21f583da20777428d264d501/tumblr_myubi5Hecp1qe3ngpo6_400.jpg) is the same as one that was mentioned in a blug awhile back; as I was awaiting my Bombadil at the time and knew they had a new lug coming for it, when I saw that lug in the blug, I'd asked about it, if it was going to be on the diaga-Bomba... Grant said nope, that the Bomba had a LOT more clearance needed, and that lug wouldn't do for it, that he might eventually design a new lug for it, but that if the angles didn't come out just right, that such could end up being an expensive problem; that's why they were passed through Mark Nobilette's for adding on the curvastays on the Bombadils... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Well Equipped 53CM, 1983 Squoia
This bike just has the standard SKS fenders. Single pivot brakes, like my Suntour Superbe have more fender clearance than dual pivot because they sit a little higher. The JB's fit under the fender OK, but not with a bunch of space. The real issue is the horizontal dropouts, which make getting the rear tire on a bit of a push, but once in place they're fine. The horizontal dropouts require leaving extra space and on one occasion Pat sucked up a pine cone into that space which quickly broke the fender. I've see (pictures) of fender installations with a spring up against the chain stay bridge, but I don't think that would work with JBs. A 30mm tire would work though. Michael On Monday, January 6, 2014 5:01:59 PM UTC-5, gordo wrote: Hi Michael, I have that same frameset but in a 58 - would you mind sharing the fender model that you were able to fit with Jack Browns? Cheers, Eric On Monday, January 6, 2014 12:22:04 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote: For Christmas I outfitted my wife's 1983 Sequoia with brand new Albas, thumbies, levers index shifters; then gave her my good pair of wheels (Ultegra/Open Pro/Jack Browns). Now I just made an impulsive purchase of the Betty Foy Demo which RBW offered for sale! I know she'll love it but would never indulge herself! So I'm offering her bike for sale: I can sell it with the new or old parts, all good, your choice. 1983, 53CM Specialized Sequoia, $1100 plus shipping Frame - Tange. excellent condition, paint scratches on chain stay lower fork blade. CS spread to 130mm Wheels: Ultegra Hubs, Open Pro Rims, Jack Brown Tires (Blue Green) All in excellent condition. Drive train- Stronglight Cartridge BB, Shimano 600 crank(46/36/24) (or Sugino XD2 if you prefer), Ultegra RD, Deore XT FD, Ultegra 9 spd 12-27, brand new conex chain. Cockpit: Stronglight headset, new Albas, new Tallex stem, new Shimano levers, new Paul’s thumbies, New Microshift 9 spd index shifters BE adapters included. Alternate choice, Noodle bars, nitto stem, Techtro levers, Silver Shfters Brakes: Suntour Superbe single pivot SP; SeatPost Nitto (26.9), SKS Fenders, touring pedals. Saddle, mirror and Nitto rear rack not included. Pictures at: https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A25VaUrzMrRm8 MIchael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.
Yeah, not sure what the heck I was on about there. Just take the keyboard away from me. Or maybe I need new glasses .. KJ On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 2:40:13 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Kieran Iron Rider is specifically talking about the case where you have a non-repairable tire sidewall blowout on 650B. Since very few bike shops and zero sporting goods stores sell 650B tires, Iron Rider is making the point that you might be hosed in that situation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
Leslie I thought the same thing, but when I went back in the BLUG, that special lug you are referring to is a seat lug, with the seatpost clamp and everything. Two different lugs. Here's the famous one: http://media.tumblr.com/3481d96969a53412f236eb0f2c257b0f/tumblr_inline_mkut7pukgd1qz4rgp.jpg or maybe you are talking about a different special one than I was thinking of. At any rate, the middle Cheviot lug looks the same as the one on recent Betty Foys. On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:17:31 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote: On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:46:28 PM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote: For fabricating a true mixte, the limitation is the lug-- Riv would have to use a different headlug and seat lug () or perhaps do a filet braze to the headtube? I think Liesl mentioned that her custom Appaloosa will have a diagatube of this sort. (As the frame is too small to have a Riv-normal diagatube.) I noticed the lug on the Cheviot (this one: http://25.media.tumblr.com/122d0d1e21f583da20777428d264d501/tumblr_myubi5Hecp1qe3ngpo6_400.jpg) is the same as one that was mentioned in a blug awhile back; as I was awaiting my Bombadil at the time and knew they had a new lug coming for it, when I saw that lug in the blug, I'd asked about it, if it was going to be on the diaga-Bomba... Grant said nope, that the Bomba had a LOT more clearance needed, and that lug wouldn't do for it, that he might eventually design a new lug for it, but that if the angles didn't come out just right, that such could end up being an expensive problem; that's why they were passed through Mark Nobilette's for adding on the curvastays on the Bombadils... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: 650B Vee Speedsters
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11842876134/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11843245206/ Very low miles. I needed more side knobs so purchased some Thunder Burts to replace these. $30 + $6-$10 for shipping. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 650B Vee Speedsters
This is for the pair. Two tires. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11842876134/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11843245206/ Very low miles. I needed more side knobs so purchased some Thunder Burts to replace these. $30 + $6-$10 for shipping. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 650B Vee Speedsters
Tires are sold, thanks for the interest! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11842876134/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11843245206/ Very low miles. I needed more side knobs so purchased some Thunder Burts to replace these. $30 + $6-$10 for shipping. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?
I have one on my MTB, and actually paid Brooks for it! The feel isn't as good as the Brooks leather ones that I have on two other bikes. The material does give, and as such performs its duty as part of a sling type saddle, but just not as much as leather in my view. I had to fine tune the saddle position to ensure that it was under the sit bones. Wouldn't say that it was worth the price, but from its construction I expect it to hold up well on the MTB. -Stewart On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:59:51 AM UTC-8, Statrixbob wrote: I wrote about mine on the list when I got it as a freebie from Brooks last year. In short pretty good but doesn't get better as a B-17 does. Here's a link to the thread... https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/C-17/rbw-owners-bunch/tvayozWOA-8/h2J_3QKKEFwJ Aloha, Bob On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:53 AM, dailyrandonneur eddi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I had a C17 loaner out on my SimpleOne last month and wrote about it. It feels pretty similar to a B17 to me. http://thedailyrandonneur.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/brooks-cambium-c17-saddle-a-real-brooks/ Ed Washington, DC On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 1:39:10 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote: Hey group, just wanted to know if anyone on the list has tried out the Brooks Cambium/ C17? and how it might compare to a standard B17 in comfort. I know that its a little narrower(~10mm), but just wanted to get an idea of how the material feels when youre on it!thanks -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfhar...@gmail.com javascript: statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 650B Vee Speedsters
easy come, easy go ~mike On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:56:17 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11842876134/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11843245206/ Very low miles. I needed more side knobs so purchased some Thunder Burts to replace these. $30 + $6-$10 for shipping. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Well Equipped 53CM, 1983 Squoia
That's WAY less expensive than a New Sequoia: http://www.lighthousecycles.com/the-new-sequoia/ On Monday, January 6, 2014 12:22:04 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote: For Christmas I outfitted my wife's 1983 Sequoia with brand new Albas, thumbies, levers index shifters; then gave her my good pair of wheels (Ultegra/Open Pro/Jack Browns). Now I just made an impulsive purchase of the Betty Foy Demo which RBW offered for sale! I know she'll love it but would never indulge herself! So I'm offering her bike for sale: I can sell it with the new or old parts, all good, your choice. 1983, 53CM Specialized Sequoia, $1100 plus shipping Frame - Tange. excellent condition, paint scratches on chain stay lower fork blade. CS spread to 130mm Wheels: Ultegra Hubs, Open Pro Rims, Jack Brown Tires (Blue Green) All in excellent condition. Drive train- Stronglight Cartridge BB, Shimano 600 crank(46/36/24) (or Sugino XD2 if you prefer), Ultegra RD, Deore XT FD, Ultegra 9 spd 12-27, brand new conex chain. Cockpit: Stronglight headset, new Albas, new Tallex stem, new Shimano levers, new Paul’s thumbies, New Microshift 9 spd index shifters BE adapters included. Alternate choice, Noodle bars, nitto stem, Techtro levers, Silver Shfters Brakes: Suntour Superbe single pivot SP; SeatPost Nitto (26.9), SKS Fenders, touring pedals. Saddle, mirror and Nitto rear rack not included. Pictures at: https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A25VaUrzMrRm8 MIchael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 650B Vee Speedsters
Hey David, Will you take some measurements of the thunder burts and post to the list when you mount them? Thanks! -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:27 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Tires are sold, thanks for the interest! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11842876134/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11843245206/ Very low miles. I needed more side knobs so purchased some Thunder Burts to replace these. $30 + $6-$10 for shipping. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?
Good info, thank you Stewart Sent from my iPhone On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:42 PM, slogie stewart.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I have one on my MTB, and actually paid Brooks for it! The feel isn't as good as the Brooks leather ones that I have on two other bikes. The material does give, and as such performs its duty as part of a sling type saddle, but just not as much as leather in my view. I had to fine tune the saddle position to ensure that it was under the sit bones. Wouldn't say that it was worth the price, but from its construction I expect it to hold up well on the MTB. -Stewart On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:59:51 AM UTC-8, Statrixbob wrote: I wrote about mine on the list when I got it as a freebie from Brooks last year. In short pretty good but doesn't get better as a B-17 does. Here's a link to the thread... https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/C-17/rbw-owners-bunch/tvayozWOA-8/h2J_3QKKEFwJ Aloha, Bob On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 9:53 AM, dailyrandonneur eddi...@gmail.com wrote: I had a C17 loaner out on my SimpleOne last month and wrote about it. It feels pretty similar to a B17 to me. http://thedailyrandonneur.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/brooks-cambium-c17-saddle-a-real-brooks/ Ed Washington, DC On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 1:39:10 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote: Hey group, just wanted to know if anyone on the list has tried out the Brooks Cambium/ C17? and how it might compare to a standard B17 in comfort. I know that its a little narrower(~10mm), but just wanted to get an idea of how the material feels when youre on it!thanks -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfhar...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
In that situation I would respace the San Marcos to be 135mm. The only reason I have two bikes that can share wheels is because I cold set one of them to match the other. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:41:29 AM UTC-8, PeterG wrote: Looking for some parts for a new to me San Marcos Frame/Fork: Brake: Shimano Tiagra sidepulls 9 speed cassette (11-32 or 11-34)... Sugino crank: wide/low double (40t x 26t)...thinking I might save a little weight going double, but not sure Deraillers: Shimano cx70 Front Shimano deore rear derailler Possibly a lightish wheelset for my jack browns...(130mm rear spacing) all my other sets are 135mm spacing wont fit... Frame/Fork was a Christmas present. Thinking of making this into a light-ish bike with albatross and bar end shifters. Looking for used but lots of life left parts. Don't really have the cash to buy all new. The frame is killing me just sitting here looking at me waiting to be builtArgg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
Sheldon does not appear to support his true mixte definition, except the implicit support of Sheldon says so. For the most part, that's enough for me, but does anyone have a French source to differentiate solid-tubed step-through frames as being not a mixte? I always wondered if it was a sly way to gauge his own influence on the internet, and see how far an unsupported assertion can go, and where it might pop up in a Google search. Philip (long have I wondered this) www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:16:29 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: I've noticed that kink as well. I also prefer the look of a single diagonal line; that's why the diagatube Bombadil and Appaloosa look so good. According to Sheldon Brown et al, in a true mixte frame the diagonal element is actually two stays from rear dropout to head tube. Has Riv ever considered doing a true mixte? http://sheldonbrown.com/images/mixte-supercourse.jpg Although, I'd bet that suitable tubing would be a custom order, as the mixte diagatubes are usually seat stay diameter but quite long. Tim On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.netjavascript: wrote: Maybe it has to do with the angles of available lugs? cheers, Andrew (Painstakingly pecked out on my iPhone; please pardon my brevity and tpyos.) On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:27, BSWP asht...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
Quote from Sheldon (AASHTA): According to Sheldon, a mixte is: A style of lady's http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_l.html#ladys frame in which the top tube http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ta-o.html#toptube consists of a pair of small diameter tubes running more-or-less straight from the upper head lug http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_l.html#lug, past the seat tube http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_sa-o.html#seattube, and on to the rear fork endshttp://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_e-f.html#forkend. A mixte frame thus has 3 sets of rear stays, instead of the usual two. *A variant on the mixte uses a single, full sized top tube running from the upper head tube to the seat tube, but retains the middle set of stays*. A lady's type bike that lacks the middle pair of stays is not a mixte. In other words, Sheldon defines a Rivendell as a variant of a mixte. The third set of stays is the critical part that supports the seat tube and makes it a mixte. A Rivendell has the middle set of stays, and happens to have a full size top tube. Anybody who says a Rivendell is not a mixte and uses Sheldon to defend their position, does not understand Sheldon's definition. On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 3:56:30 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: Sheldon does not appear to support his true mixte definition, except the implicit support of Sheldon says so. For the most part, that's enough for me, but does anyone have a French source to differentiate solid-tubed step-through frames as being not a mixte? I always wondered if it was a sly way to gauge his own influence on the internet, and see how far an unsupported assertion can go, and where it might pop up in a Google search. Philip (long have I wondered this) www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:16:29 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: I've noticed that kink as well. I also prefer the look of a single diagonal line; that's why the diagatube Bombadil and Appaloosa look so good. According to Sheldon Brown et al, in a true mixte frame the diagonal element is actually two stays from rear dropout to head tube. Has Riv ever considered doing a true mixte? http://sheldonbrown.com/images/mixte-supercourse.jpg Although, I'd bet that suitable tubing would be a custom order, as the mixte diagatubes are usually seat stay diameter but quite long. Tim On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: Maybe it has to do with the angles of available lugs? cheers, Andrew (Painstakingly pecked out on my iPhone; please pardon my brevity and tpyos.) On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:27, BSWP asht...@gmail.com wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 650B Vee Speedsters
Definitely. Just rode them for the first time today. Mini-review forthcoming! FYI, they're 49/50mm wide on 28mm rims. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Mike Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.comwrote: Hey David, Will you take some measurements of the thunder burts and post to the list when you mount them? Thanks! -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Jan 8, 2014, at 2:27 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Tires are sold, thanks for the interest! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:56 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11842876134/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11843245206/ Very low miles. I needed more side knobs so purchased some Thunder Burts to replace these. $30 + $6-$10 for shipping. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
Yeah, the true mixte vs not true mixte thing is just a dumb distinction. Mixte is not french for a step through frame with twin laterals. There is no better name for the style of bike with a top tube hitting mid seat tube, and it is used interchangeably by most people for a true twin lateral vs dropped top tube. Other than mixte there is no other good single name for the step-through dropped-top-tube ladies-bike girls-bike mamachari style bike. This is the realm of pedants. Realm of Pedants, of course, is pretty much synonymous with the internet. I think you will find in real life that Mixte is used more often than any other term other than he poor descriptives girls-bike or ladies-bike. Later Tarik On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Sheldon does not appear to support his true mixte definition, except the implicit support of Sheldon says so. For the most part, that's enough for me, but does anyone have a French source to differentiate solid-tubed step-through frames as being not a mixte? I always wondered if it was a sly way to gauge his own influence on the internet, and see how far an unsupported assertion can go, and where it might pop up in a Google search. Philip (long have I wondered this) www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:16:29 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: I've noticed that kink as well. I also prefer the look of a single diagonal line; that's why the diagatube Bombadil and Appaloosa look so good. According to Sheldon Brown et al, in a true mixte frame the diagonal element is actually two stays from rear dropout to head tube. Has Riv ever considered doing a true mixte? http://sheldonbrown.com/images/mixte-supercourse.jpg Although, I'd bet that suitable tubing would be a custom order, as the mixte diagatubes are usually seat stay diameter but quite long. Tim On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: Maybe it has to do with the angles of available lugs? cheers, Andrew (Painstakingly pecked out on my iPhone; please pardon my brevity and tpyos.) On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:27, BSWP asht...@gmail.com wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
ceci n'est pas une Bombadil: http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/4494454218/ On 1/8/14, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Quote from Sheldon (AASHTA): According to Sheldon, a mixte is: A style of lady's http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_l.html#ladys frame in which the top tube http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ta-o.html#toptube consists of a pair of small diameter tubes running more-or-less straight from the upper head lug http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_l.html#lug, past the seat tube http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_sa-o.html#seattube, and on to the rear fork endshttp://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_e-f.html#forkend. A mixte frame thus has 3 sets of rear stays, instead of the usual two. *A variant on the mixte uses a single, full sized top tube running from the upper head tube to the seat tube, but retains the middle set of stays*. A lady's type bike that lacks the middle pair of stays is not a mixte. In other words, Sheldon defines a Rivendell as a variant of a mixte. The third set of stays is the critical part that supports the seat tube and makes it a mixte. A Rivendell has the middle set of stays, and happens to have a full size top tube. Anybody who says a Rivendell is not a mixte and uses Sheldon to defend their position, does not understand Sheldon's definition. On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 3:56:30 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: Sheldon does not appear to support his true mixte definition, except the implicit support of Sheldon says so. For the most part, that's enough for me, but does anyone have a French source to differentiate solid-tubed step-through frames as being not a mixte? I always wondered if it was a sly way to gauge his own influence on the internet, and see how far an unsupported assertion can go, and where it might pop up in a Google search. Philip (long have I wondered this) www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:16:29 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: I've noticed that kink as well. I also prefer the look of a single diagonal line; that's why the diagatube Bombadil and Appaloosa look so good. According to Sheldon Brown et al, in a true mixte frame the diagonal element is actually two stays from rear dropout to head tube. Has Riv ever considered doing a true mixte? http://sheldonbrown.com/images/mixte-supercourse.jpg Although, I'd bet that suitable tubing would be a custom order, as the mixte diagatubes are usually seat stay diameter but quite long. Tim On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: Maybe it has to do with the angles of available lugs? cheers, Andrew (Painstakingly pecked out on my iPhone; please pardon my brevity and tpyos.) On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:27, BSWP asht...@gmail.com wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
Fo-Sheezy, Joe Breezy On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 4:21:50 PM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: ceci n'est pas une Bombadil: http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/4494454218/ On 1/8/14, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Quote from Sheldon (AASHTA): According to Sheldon, a mixte is: A style of lady's http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_l.html#ladys frame in which the top tube http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ta-o.html#toptube consists of a pair of small diameter tubes running more-or-less straight from the upper head lug http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_l.html#lug, past the seat tube http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_sa-o.html#seattube, and on to the rear fork endshttp://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_e-f.html#forkend. A mixte frame thus has 3 sets of rear stays, instead of the usual two. *A variant on the mixte uses a single, full sized top tube running from the upper head tube to the seat tube, but retains the middle set of stays*. A lady's type bike that lacks the middle pair of stays is not a mixte. In other words, Sheldon defines a Rivendell as a variant of a mixte. The third set of stays is the critical part that supports the seat tube and makes it a mixte. A Rivendell has the middle set of stays, and happens to have a full size top tube. Anybody who says a Rivendell is not a mixte and uses Sheldon to defend their position, does not understand Sheldon's definition. On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 3:56:30 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: Sheldon does not appear to support his true mixte definition, except the implicit support of Sheldon says so. For the most part, that's enough for me, but does anyone have a French source to differentiate solid-tubed step-through frames as being not a mixte? I always wondered if it was a sly way to gauge his own influence on the internet, and see how far an unsupported assertion can go, and where it might pop up in a Google search. Philip (long have I wondered this) www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:16:29 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: I've noticed that kink as well. I also prefer the look of a single diagonal line; that's why the diagatube Bombadil and Appaloosa look so good. According to Sheldon Brown et al, in a true mixte frame the diagonal element is actually two stays from rear dropout to head tube. Has Riv ever considered doing a true mixte? http://sheldonbrown.com/images/mixte-supercourse.jpg Although, I'd bet that suitable tubing would be a custom order, as the mixte diagatubes are usually seat stay diameter but quite long. Tim On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: Maybe it has to do with the angles of available lugs? cheers, Andrew (Painstakingly pecked out on my iPhone; please pardon my brevity and tpyos.) On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:27, BSWP asht...@gmail.com wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
it is a little bit Breezy, now that you mention it! http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/4899070155/ On 1/8/14, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Fo-Sheezy, Joe Breezy On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 4:21:50 PM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: ceci n'est pas une Bombadil: http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/4494454218/ On 1/8/14, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Quote from Sheldon (AASHTA): According to Sheldon, a mixte is: A style of lady's http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_l.html#ladys frame in which the top tube http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ta-o.html#toptube consists of a pair of small diameter tubes running more-or-less straight from the upper head lug http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_l.html#lug, past the seat tube http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_sa-o.html#seattube, and on to the rear fork endshttp://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_e-f.html#forkend. A mixte frame thus has 3 sets of rear stays, instead of the usual two. *A variant on the mixte uses a single, full sized top tube running from the upper head tube to the seat tube, but retains the middle set of stays*. A lady's type bike that lacks the middle pair of stays is not a mixte. In other words, Sheldon defines a Rivendell as a variant of a mixte. The third set of stays is the critical part that supports the seat tube and makes it a mixte. A Rivendell has the middle set of stays, and happens to have a full size top tube. Anybody who says a Rivendell is not a mixte and uses Sheldon to defend their position, does not understand Sheldon's definition. On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 3:56:30 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: Sheldon does not appear to support his true mixte definition, except the implicit support of Sheldon says so. For the most part, that's enough for me, but does anyone have a French source to differentiate solid-tubed step-through frames as being not a mixte? I always wondered if it was a sly way to gauge his own influence on the internet, and see how far an unsupported assertion can go, and where it might pop up in a Google search. Philip (long have I wondered this) www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:16:29 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: I've noticed that kink as well. I also prefer the look of a single diagonal line; that's why the diagatube Bombadil and Appaloosa look so good. According to Sheldon Brown et al, in a true mixte frame the diagonal element is actually two stays from rear dropout to head tube. Has Riv ever considered doing a true mixte? http://sheldonbrown.com/images/mixte-supercourse.jpg Although, I'd bet that suitable tubing would be a custom order, as the mixte diagatubes are usually seat stay diameter but quite long. Tim On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Andrew Letton let...@flash.net wrote: Maybe it has to do with the angles of available lugs? cheers, Andrew (Painstakingly pecked out on my iPhone; please pardon my brevity and tpyos.) On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:27, BSWP asht...@gmail.com wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question
Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or similar terms. Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was invented by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was intended to make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames with a deeply dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin diagonal tubes to stiffen tandem frames. Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed frame. To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. André Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the head tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely copied. You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly Image Archive at http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus remained popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was even aware of the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of mixte, but he was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube with no extra rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus offends engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte. More recently, Rivendell inspired its mixtes on the Reyhand type, but without extending the extra stays beyond the seat tube. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
Phillip, I have googled it and can't seem to find out how to make the 135mm wheel set fit a 130mm space.Can you elaborate? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question
I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte: (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.) Though I used it with what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US). I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube style of step through bike than the single diagatube style. :) SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or similar terms. Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was invented by A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was intended to make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames with a deeply dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin diagonal tubes to stiffen tandem frames. Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed frame. To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. André Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the head tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely copied. You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly Image Archive at http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus remained popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was even aware of the second Reyhand type when he coined his definition of mixte, but he was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube with no extra rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus offends engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte. More recently, Rivendell inspired its mixtes on the Reyhand type, but without extending the extra stays beyond the seat tube. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] 13 shots for 13...2013 that is...and maybe a few more...
its hard to pick just a few photos from so many great rides however I pared it down to 13, well make that just a few more than 13..anyone else with a similar compilation should post away... http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/sets/72157638895721164/ meade...who has taken up running in these single digit times... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Let's imagine a Tallux with a removable faceplate.
I stand firm in my faith that in these troubled times, most if not all of the world's problems could be solved with a tall, lustrous Nitto stem featuring a removable faceplate. And by *most if not all of the world's problems*, I of course mean, I'd desperately like to try out the Albastache, but I'm pretty sure the adhesive on my cork grips is MIL-SPEC. Imagine the clamor heard 'round the world, undulating and ceaseless, resounding in force 'cross fiber and copper all the way to Walnut Creek, where the powers that be see an earnest demand and figure out a way to get the ball rolling. Me, I'd gladly pay $100.00 on up and in advance for 10cm worth of polished panacea. Any similarly minded, dice-rollin' Early Adopters care to weigh in? Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question
I'm confounded. I've looked at my 55cm Betty Foy, and I don't notice a kink. I definitely can see one on the Cheviot that's on the Blug, and I can clearly see it on Vince's staff bike in the Staff Bikes section of rivbike.com. On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:27:07 AM UTC-8, BSWP wrote: There's a picture of a 60cm Betty Foy on Riv's blug, and it's the first I remember seeing where the top/diaga-tube looks to meet its rear counterparts in a clean straight line. On others, and I guess smaller sized frames, the top tube meets the rear tubes with a slight kink. Again, I must not have paid attention to other images, or to the frames in person. But why the difference? Is it to keep the step-through height of the top tube identical across frame sizes? It's no doubt identical in rigidity and stoutness, but quite different in appearance, one size to another. I like the look of a single line from top of head tube to rear axle. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.
I don't see how the duct tape helps wrapped on the outside. I was expecting to see a picture showing the tape INSIDE the tire, using the tire pressure and effectively creating a tire boot. --Metin On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:36:11 AM UTC-8, Iron Rider wrote: Another rider gave me one of those and it worked initially. I added the duct tape when I saw slight bulge develop and did not want to risk another blowout because I did not have another boot and I have over one hundred miles left to ride. I now carry a couple just in case. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 3:39:01 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Leslie I thought the same thing, but when I went back in the BLUG, that special lug you are referring to is a seat lug, with the seatpost clamp and everything. Two different lugs. Here's the famous one: or maybe you are talking about a different special one than I was thinking of. At any rate, the middle Cheviot lug looks the same as the one on recent Betty Foys. Hi Bill, Nope; I remember that lug, too; but the one I was referring to, and asked Grant about, you can see in these two Rosco Bubbe pics: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvr1jxwxCw1qdvnvk.jpg http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvymvxcdZX1qdvnvk.jpg The thing that had caught my eye was the two 'wings' with sockets for the stays to come into the sides of the lug; normal mixte or normal bike size, it is; but fat Bombas, need more room than that lug has... -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
Oh, and while talking mixtes, here's a bike that brought me around to thinking about them http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/2349587723/mountain-mixte-custom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Let's imagine a Tallux with a removable faceplate.
*Me, I'd gladly pay $100.00 on up and in advance ...* Shh...don't tell them that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Let's imagine a Tallux with a removable faceplate.
Jeff, why not also go for a quill Nitto stem with varying extension, rise and removable face plate capabilities. When shooting for the moon go for broke! I'd throw $100 toward that plus clog up the fiber and copper. ~Hugh On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 6:04:54 PM UTC-8, sameness wrote: I stand firm in my faith that in these troubled times, most if not all of the world's problems could be solved with a tall, lustrous Nitto stem featuring a removable faceplate. And by *most if not all of the world's problems*, I of course mean, I'd desperately like to try out the Albastache, but I'm pretty sure the adhesive on my cork grips is MIL-SPEC. Imagine the clamor heard 'round the world, undulating and ceaseless, resounding in force 'cross fiber and copper all the way to Walnut Creek, where the powers that be see an earnest demand and figure out a way to get the ball rolling. Me, I'd gladly pay $100.00 on up and in advance for 10cm worth of polished panacea. Any similarly minded, dice-rollin' Early Adopters care to weigh in? Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 13 shots for 13...2013 that is...and maybe a few more...
Meade, That's a damn good idea! I like it a lot...I'll start the weeding process asap, man is this going to be something. ~Hugh On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 6:00:55 PM UTC-8, Meade Anderson wrote: its hard to pick just a few photos from so many great rides however I pared it down to 13, well make that just a few more than 13..anyone else with a similar compilation should post away... http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/sets/72157638895721164/ meade...who has taken up running in these single digit times... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
Aha. I didn't keep the allowable variant mixte style in my mind. This not a mixte (ATS): http://www.biketinker.com/2012/fine-bikes/state-of-the-steyr-3-15-12/ (no third set of stays) This IS a mixte: http://www.biketinker.com/2012/fine-bikes/state-of-the-belleville-3-21-12/ (twin tubes + lateral stays... What would those be? Top Tube Stays?) Is there any source more original than Sheldon for the Strict Interpretation of mixte-hood? Did all French builders use the TT stays? Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
I agree. I recall the heated debates over fixed gear vs fixed wheel, as well as the Singlespeed is a misnomer, since they go many speeds! and Don't call it a fixie! controversies. I reject those on slightly different grounds, though. You undermined your whole position, though, by reminding me that I could ever use the word mamachari! As in, A true mixte is differentiated from a mamachari by its third set of stays. ;^) Philip www.bikepedantry.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Let's imagine a Tallux with a removable faceplate.
Shh...don't tell them that. A Tallux is $77.00. The stem I'm imagining would allow me the possibility of at least three different cockpits (Albas, 'Stache, drops), which would otherwise need three different stems. So I don't think at least $100 to make something appear outta thin air is unreasonable, esp. considering whatever it costs for casting and tooling and RD plus minimums and blah blah. (W)hy not also go for a quill Nitto stem with varying extension, rise and removable face plate capabilities. Maybe just my experience, but I've always found those dial-a-cockpit comfort stems less than robust, and not something I'd feel comfortable taking off road on the long term. Wasn't it the nominally budget but totally solid Periscopa that didn't get the Pope's blessing for trails? When it comes to Nitto, God don't make no junk and all that. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mixte frame design question
Speaking of fixed gear, now that I've got my correspondence course diploma on a frame I couldn't give away 10 years ago, I'd say my circle is almost complete. Jeff Ix-nay on the Mix-tay Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
Cold set is a fancy way of saying bend it. Here's Sheldon Brown: http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:53:14 PM UTC-5, PeterG wrote: Phillip, I have googled it and can't seem to find out how to make the 135mm wheel set fit a 130mm space.Can you elaborate? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Let's imagine a Tallux with a removable faceplate.
Maybe just my experience, but I've always found those dial-a-cockpit comfort stems less than robust, and not something I'd feel comfortable taking off road on the long term. In addition to not inspiring much confidence, these stems are typically ugly. Were Nitto to design one, it would be elegant. The combination of a removable faceplate and adjustable extension on a long quill means one stem could work for multiple bar set-ups. Could be a winner. dougP On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 6:41:07 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Jeff, why not also go for a quill Nitto stem with varying extension, rise and removable face plate capabilities. When shooting for the moon go for broke! I'd throw $100 toward that plus clog up the fiber and copper. ~Hugh On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 6:04:54 PM UTC-8, sameness wrote: I stand firm in my faith that in these troubled times, most if not all of the world's problems could be solved with a tall, lustrous Nitto stem featuring a removable faceplate. And by *most if not all of the world's problems*, I of course mean, I'd desperately like to try out the Albastache, but I'm pretty sure the adhesive on my cork grips is MIL-SPEC. Imagine the clamor heard 'round the world, undulating and ceaseless, resounding in force 'cross fiber and copper all the way to Walnut Creek, where the powers that be see an earnest demand and figure out a way to get the ball rolling. Me, I'd gladly pay $100.00 on up and in advance for 10cm worth of polished panacea. Any similarly minded, dice-rollin' Early Adopters care to weigh in? Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS - Nitto, Tubus, Compass Tires, Paul, and more
Hi Dan, I'm interested in the Cosmo rack if it's still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Let's imagine a Tallux with a removable faceplate.
I bought a second hand nitto quill stem on the iBOB list a while back that was part of a batch custom ordered at one time from a bike shop owner. So, it can be done. This one is tigged welded and polished. Kevin Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
I cold-set my old bike the other night, though just from 122 to 126mm, and it came out great. You need 3/8 all-thread, 2 nuts, 4 1-inch washers, and very good calipers. A pair of 9/16 box-end wrenches are fantastic, since you can hang them on the fixture. You have to spread it, then relax it and measure. I gained my first half-mm set at an opening of 142mm, and ended up spreading to 146mm to get my permanent set at 126. Like I said - came out great and I felt like a pro with the result. Sorry I didn't take a photo On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:41:14 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Cold set is a fancy way of saying bend it. Here's Sheldon Brown: http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:53:14 PM UTC-5, PeterG wrote: Phillip, I have googled it and can't seem to find out how to make the 135mm wheel set fit a 130mm space.Can you elaborate? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS - Nitto, Tubus, Compass Tires, Paul, and more
Sorry. The Cosmo is taken. I'll be putting out a revised list in a bit with some new additions. Dan On Jan 8, 2014, at 8:13 PM, grrlyrida grrlyr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, I'm interested in the Cosmo rack if it's still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
here you go http://seenonthetrain.blogspot.com/2011/11/cold-setting-bicycle-frame.html On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:19:55 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I cold-set my old bike the other night, though just from 122 to 126mm, and it came out great. You need 3/8 all-thread, 2 nuts, 4 1-inch washers, and very good calipers. A pair of 9/16 box-end wrenches are fantastic, since you can hang them on the fixture. You have to spread it, then relax it and measure. I gained my first half-mm set at an opening of 142mm, and ended up spreading to 146mm to get my permanent set at 126. Like I said - came out great and I felt like a pro with the result. Sorry I didn't take a photo Phillip, I have googled it and can't seem to find out how to make the 135mm wheel set fit a 130mm space.Can you elaborate? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB Nitto Albatross Bars (or WTT)
I'm looking for an aluminum Albatross bar. I also have various Nitto drop bars and other swept-back/cruiser bars to trade. Thanks! Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
and it didn't take 25 turns, so measure, measure, measure On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:23:49 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: here you go http://seenonthetrain.blogspot.com/2011/11/cold-setting-bicycle-frame.html On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:19:55 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I cold-set my old bike the other night, though just from 122 to 126mm, and it came out great. You need 3/8 all-thread, 2 nuts, 4 1-inch washers, and very good calipers. A pair of 9/16 box-end wrenches are fantastic, since you can hang them on the fixture. You have to spread it, then relax it and measure. I gained my first half-mm set at an opening of 142mm, and ended up spreading to 146mm to get my permanent set at 126. Like I said - came out great and I felt like a pro with the result. Sorry I didn't take a photo Phillip, I have googled it and can't seem to find out how to make the 135mm wheel set fit a 130mm space.Can you elaborate? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Let's imagine a Tallux with a removable faceplate.
*NITTO already makes a pop-top quill stem.* Scroll to bottom of page to see it on the left: http://www16.ocn.ne.jp/~nitto210/stem-E.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Let's imagine a Tallux with a removable faceplate.
*NITTO already makes a pop-top quill stem*. Not as tall as a Tallux, but maybe what you are looking for? Scroll down to bottom of page to see it on the left: http://www16.ocn.ne.jp/~nitto210/stem-E.htmlhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww16.ocn.ne.jp%2F~nitto210%2Fstem-E.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNF7TCucXFQpJqG_UZqHzt40lnA0AA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Let's imagine a Tallux with a removable faceplate.
@sameness: Show trimmed content Nitto makes a pop top quill, though not as tall as a Tallux. Scroll all the way to the bottom and you will see it on the left. http://www16.ocn.ne.jp/~nitto210/stem-E.html Show trimmed content -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Let's imagine a Tallux with a removable faceplate.
@sameness: Nitto makes a pop top quill, though not as tall as a Tallux. Scroll all the way to the bottom and you will see it on the left. http://www16.ocn.ne.jp/~nitto210/stem-E.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
Next time I'll do it your way. I just squeezed the rear triangle down from 126 to 120 with my hands. I may have used a giant adjustable wrench to make the dropouts parallel again. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:19:55 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: I cold-set my old bike the other night, though just from 122 to 126mm, and it came out great. You need 3/8 all-thread, 2 nuts, 4 1-inch washers, and very good calipers. A pair of 9/16 box-end wrenches are fantastic, since you can hang them on the fixture. You have to spread it, then relax it and measure. I gained my first half-mm set at an opening of 142mm, and ended up spreading to 146mm to get my permanent set at 126. Like I said - came out great and I felt like a pro with the result. Sorry I didn't take a photo On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:41:14 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Cold set is a fancy way of saying bend it. Here's Sheldon Brown: http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:53:14 PM UTC-5, PeterG wrote: Phillip, I have googled it and can't seem to find out how to make the 135mm wheel set fit a 130mm space.Can you elaborate? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: Brooks B17S saddle
Anyone have an unused B17S lying around? This is an experiment so doesn't have to be unused or beautiful, in fact I would prefer rough condition and inexpensive. Black possibly preferred, but any color is fine. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
Philip, what I did was use an extra set of nuts and washers on the outside to squeeze the dropouts parallel - as I tightened it on the outside, I gradually loosened the inside, and went back and forth a few steps - my dropouts came out parallel. On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:52:56 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: Next time I'll do it your way. I just squeezed the rear triangle down from 126 to 120 with my hands. I may have used a giant adjustable wrench to make the dropouts parallel again. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:19:55 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: I cold-set my old bike the other night, though just from 122 to 126mm, and it came out great. You need 3/8 all-thread, 2 nuts, 4 1-inch washers, and very good calipers. A pair of 9/16 box-end wrenches are fantastic, since you can hang them on the fixture. You have to spread it, then relax it and measure. I gained my first half-mm set at an opening of 142mm, and ended up spreading to 146mm to get my permanent set at 126. Like I said - came out great and I felt like a pro with the result. Sorry I didn't take a photo On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:41:14 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Cold set is a fancy way of saying bend it. Here's Sheldon Brown: http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:53:14 PM UTC-5, PeterG wrote: Phillip, I have googled it and can't seem to find out how to make the 135mm wheel set fit a 130mm space.Can you elaborate? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build
here's what I got out of it - converted an old 5-speed rear to a 7-speed rear (though I had been running an Ultra-6) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaP1060004.jpg On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:14:59 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: Philip, what I did was use an extra set of nuts and washers on the outside to squeeze the dropouts parallel - as I tightened it on the outside, I gradually loosened the inside, and went back and forth a few steps - my dropouts came out parallel. On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:52:56 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: Next time I'll do it your way. I just squeezed the rear triangle down from 126 to 120 with my hands. I may have used a giant adjustable wrench to make the dropouts parallel again. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:19:55 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: I cold-set my old bike the other night, though just from 122 to 126mm, and it came out great. You need 3/8 all-thread, 2 nuts, 4 1-inch washers, and very good calipers. A pair of 9/16 box-end wrenches are fantastic, since you can hang them on the fixture. You have to spread it, then relax it and measure. I gained my first half-mm set at an opening of 142mm, and ended up spreading to 146mm to get my permanent set at 126. Like I said - came out great and I felt like a pro with the result. Sorry I didn't take a photo On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:41:14 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Cold set is a fancy way of saying bend it. Here's Sheldon Brown: http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:53:14 PM UTC-5, PeterG wrote: Phillip, I have googled it and can't seem to find out how to make the 135mm wheel set fit a 130mm space.Can you elaborate? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Let's imagine a Tallux with a removable faceplate.
Nitto makes a pop top quill, though not as tall as a Tallux. Scroll all the way to the bottom and you will see it on the left. http://www16.ocn.ne.jp/~nitto210/stem-E.html Thanks. Not horrendous looking, but also not a whole lot better looking than any of the offerings from Dimension, Orgin8, Sunlite, etc. Tall! Lustrous! Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Well Equipped 53CM, 1983 Squoia
Thanks Michael! I will do some experimenting with the standard SKS fenders and some different brakes this weekend. On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:14:36 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote: This bike just has the standard SKS fenders. Single pivot brakes, like my Suntour Superbe have more fender clearance than dual pivot because they sit a little higher. The JB's fit under the fender OK, but not with a bunch of space. The real issue is the horizontal dropouts, which make getting the rear tire on a bit of a push, but once in place they're fine. The horizontal dropouts require leaving extra space and on one occasion Pat sucked up a pine cone into that space which quickly broke the fender. I've see (pictures) of fender installations with a spring up against the chain stay bridge, but I don't think that would work with JBs. A 30mm tire would work though. Michael On Monday, January 6, 2014 5:01:59 PM UTC-5, gordo wrote: Hi Michael, I have that same frameset but in a 58 - would you mind sharing the fender model that you were able to fit with Jack Browns? Cheers, Eric On Monday, January 6, 2014 12:22:04 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote: For Christmas I outfitted my wife's 1983 Sequoia with brand new Albas, thumbies, levers index shifters; then gave her my good pair of wheels (Ultegra/Open Pro/Jack Browns). Now I just made an impulsive purchase of the Betty Foy Demo which RBW offered for sale! I know she'll love it but would never indulge herself! So I'm offering her bike for sale: I can sell it with the new or old parts, all good, your choice. 1983, 53CM Specialized Sequoia, $1100 plus shipping Frame - Tange. excellent condition, paint scratches on chain stay lower fork blade. CS spread to 130mm Wheels: Ultegra Hubs, Open Pro Rims, Jack Brown Tires (Blue Green) All in excellent condition. Drive train- Stronglight Cartridge BB, Shimano 600 crank(46/36/24) (or Sugino XD2 if you prefer), Ultegra RD, Deore XT FD, Ultegra 9 spd 12-27, brand new conex chain. Cockpit: Stronglight headset, new Albas, new Tallex stem, new Shimano levers, new Paul’s thumbies, New Microshift 9 spd index shifters BE adapters included. Alternate choice, Noodle bars, nitto stem, Techtro levers, Silver Shfters Brakes: Suntour Superbe single pivot SP; SeatPost Nitto (26.9), SKS Fenders, touring pedals. Saddle, mirror and Nitto rear rack not included. Pictures at: https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A25VaUrzMrRm8 MIchael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?
I put mine on my Moulton and it is comfortable for me. But I only use it for shorter rides in town. I still use a B-17 for my Touring bike. The Cambian is beautiful and seems to flex in the right places from day one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Waterford Hilsen Pearl Blue
OPI brand nail polish… No Room For The Blues blue… Waterford Homer. Clear coat recommended if you want it to last on the toe nails. --Smitty On Sunday, December 22, 2013 4:11:18 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: Ever notice that it's *really* close to Pan-Am blue? Now that's classy. cc -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Updated : FS - Nitto, Tubus, Compass Tires, Paul, and mor
Updated and some additions. Shipping included where indicated. The bigger items are really dependent on how far you are from the SF Area. I can combo shipping and we can work out something if you want more than one item with included shipping. BRAKES: Paul Touring canti brakes - two wheels worth - anodized silver, black koolstop pads, new straddle wires plus some extra o-rings. $110 shipped Paul Love Lever Compact pair- new. Silver anodized. For linear-pull brakes. $80 shipped WHEELS: 700c rear wheel - Handspun built. New in box. Mavic A319 / Deore LX 8/9 speed. 36-spoke. $110 shipped 700c wheelset - Twin Hollow / Tiagra 8/9 speed. 32-spoke. From Riv so FL built. Little use. $120 plus shipping DERAILLEURS: Shimano 105 10-speed triple front derailleur 5603 - new in box. I have two. $35 shipped each TIRES: Schwalbe Marathon Green Guard HS368 Pair - 650B x 42. new, never mounted. $40 shipped Fatty Rumpkin Kevlar bead Single. New in package. $35 shipped Conti Tour Ride 650B x 54 Pair. Light use. Great shape. $35 shipped MISC: Trico Iron Case - Never used. Perfect shape. Great bike shipping case for up to 63cm bike. $200 plus shipping. Yepp Mini front mount child seat. Orange. New in box. All hardware, $105 shipped. - PayPal is the best way to handle a transaction. Personal/gift preferred unless you have moral issues with it. Local SF Area pickup/drop off is possible. Pictures on request. More to come Dan -Marin Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Anyone else in the Bay Area sign up for 3CR?
http://www.santacruzrandonneurs.org/2014-3CRHome.html Just curious. I will be riding my Rivendell, of course. Most of the registrants are from California so I figure there must be at least one other Rivendell owner in the mix. -Jim -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
