[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build

[Dan]

Thanks for the followup, Armand. Your experience is likely what made my LBS 
recommend me staying with the 43s on my Quills. But good to know it's 
possible if I ever insist! I don't mind anyway on that bike - the 43s suit 
it perfectly and are plenty comfortable. They leave room for fenders too.

With regards to switching to an Appaloosa, firstly, it's a great bike! I 
love mine.
Secondly, be aware that the geometry is slightly different at the front. 
The Appaloosa has a 72 degree head tube angle vs. the 69.5 on the Platypus.
Not sure what that means for real-world handling but I thought I'd point it 
out.
Which brings me to my next point: have you considered an Atlantis? I think 
they have a similar HTU (70) and slightly more tyre clearance than an 
Appaloosa too. The trouble is finding one...

On Monday 27 May 2024 at 02:49:08 UTC+9:30 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh and @Dan, tubeless was without unordinary issue on the Velocity Quills. 
> I will say though...
>
> I setup the same tires on my wheelset, and my partners bike, which has 
> some WTB KOM i25 rims. The tires setup MUCH more easily on the WTB rims. 
> The Quill's didn't present any *real* issue, but it was the difference of 
> having tires immediately seat onto the bead with zero leakage, vs fussing 
> for 2-minutes for the bead to catch on and stop splattering sealant 
> everywhere. I used an air compressor with valve cores removed to initially 
> seat the bead. 
>
> This is consistent with my experiences as a former bike mechanic. WTB's 
> rims and tires have incredibly tight tolerances, for the better. I've 
> personally never had a Velocity wheel setup as easily as a WTB rim. The 
> tolerances of the bead shelf diameter can be tighter.
>
> Just yesterday I was on a long bike commute, put the bike on one of those 
> public work stands to add some air to my tires, and my stupid Lezyne 
> thread-on bike pump unthreaded my valve core upon removal (yes I purged the 
> air before unthreading, and the valve core was tightened appropriately). I 
> was surprised to see the bead of the tire unseat due to the pressure loss. 
> My little hand pump did inflate the tire again fine, but there was some 
> sealant weeping in the process. *With the wheel being completely off the 
> ground, I think a well-designed tubeless rim should NOT unseat the bead of 
> a tire simply due to losing air.* Especially with a high quality tubeless 
> tire with a durable casing. My 3 (THREE ;) cents. 
>
> First train ride:
>
> [image: IMG_3477.jpg]
>
> On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 10:08:00 AM UTC-7 Armand Kizirian wrote:
>
>> @Eric - I'm mixed on the pretzel pedals. I chose them over the 
>> Monarchs/Gamma because of the additional, wider support, and the sculptural 
>> design matched the them I was going for. I'm afraid the aesthetics do not 
>> match the function very well. The function of the pedal is heavily reliant 
>> upon the pins. Remove the pins and you have a pretty terrible pedal, in 
>> terms of have a flat, consistent surface on which to evenly distribute 
>> weight, with some form of traction. The pins they come with are quite tall 
>> and aggressive, the type that will mark and damage your shoe sole overtime. 
>> They are quite effective, but, at least in my eyes, these are meant to be 
>> beautiful pedals for pleasure riding, not downhill mtb'ing. I modified them 
>> by putting in a mix of 1-2mm shorter brass m4 set screws. I like how they 
>> are now, but wouldn't purchase them again. I'll probably end up with some 
>> generic Shimano one-side platform/other side SPD pedal, as some of the dirt 
>> trails I like to go on tangent to my city are incredibly steep. 
>>
>> Right now I'm experimenting with some Rene Herse knobbies. They roll 
>> exceptionally well, are indeed quiet, but however, they have introduced a 
>> consistent buzz that is transmitted to the pedals--feedback which I'm not 
>> crazy about. Audibly they are indeed quiet. I'm VERY impressed by the 
>> durability of the endurance casing, I trashed these tires descending over 
>> 6000ft on some of the chunkiest rocks/terrain in southern california and 
>> not a hiccup. I did identify one of the knobs being slashed in half and 
>> flapping about, no risk of a puncture though. I'll probably switch back to 
>> RH slicks, or try a slick in the rear and knobby up front. 
>>
>> *As much as I do love the Platy so far, I think I would desire the 
>> additional tire clearance that an Appaloosa offers.* *If anyone has a 
>> 54-57cm lime-olive Appaloosa frame/fork, I would consider a purchase or 
>> trade. * Plus the additional convenience of a diamond frame, from extra 
>> water bottle, to more traditional frame bags/top tube ba

[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build

[Dan]

I thoroughly enjoyed this write-up. I can tell you've put in a lot of 
thought to this bike, and it's beautiful.
Your approach to this build as a performance upright bicycle and your 
subsequent revelations as to the comfort mirror my own on my new, purple 
Appaloosa. I have the same bars too, but slightly wider tyres! All I need 
is some bar tape and to mount my shifters upside down like yours for those 
secondary hand positions to really be dialled.
Hope you have many more adventures to come.

PS: I was told the Quills couldn't handle 48s (I have them on my 
singlespeed). Are you running yours tubeless?


On Wednesday 15 May 2024 at 09:26:44 UTC+9:30 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:

> The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. 
> 
>  
> *
>
> Cockpit features a Nitto 135mm Faceplater Stem with Rons Ortho Bars, 
> Brooks leather ergon grips with Simworks purple bar ends, Rivendell S2 
> friction shifters, with harlequin style newbuams purple/yellow wrap with 
> clear shellac, and a stem-mounted spurcycle bell. S83 seatpost with Brooks 
> B17 titanium. NOS Dura-Ace headset.
>
> [image: IMG_3282.JPG]
>
> Brakes feature Paul Canti Levers with Touring Canti’s, Moon units, and 
> Hunter cycles Nugz for extra cable adjustment. Rene herse and nitto cable 
> hangars. Yokozuna reaction compressionless housing. All capped off with 
> Forager cycles cable cherries. Kool stop brake pads with the grey e-bike 
> pad compound. This was my final hurrah to test the ultimate canti-lever 
> brake setup and deem its worthiness as a brake. It has not passed by test. 
> Riv recommends v-brakes for several valid reasons.
>
> Custom wheelset featuring White Industries MI5 hubs laced to Velocity 
> Quill rims with Sapim spokes and brass nipples, 32h front, 36h rear, all 
> polished. Rene Herse Tires, 48mm Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge. I will 
> likely keep an endurance casing Oracle ridge as a final tire choice, setup 
> tubeless with Ultradynamico brass tubeless valves. I like riding fast, 
> especially on dirt. 
>
> Drivetrain features an ultra rare 110/73bcd Middleburn lightweight road 
> triple with 42/28t gearing and Rivendell chain guard and brass 
> self-extractors. Aluminum Sugino 28t chainring and aluminum chainring 
> hardware for weight reduction. NOS Dura-Ace 7700 sealed cartridge Bottom 
> bracket. Pedals are MKS Pretzel with shorter 4-5mm length brass set screws 
> to replace the 6mm long aggressive steel pins. Ultegra PD-ES600 SPD pedals 
> for longer rides when I want to be clipped in. Deore XT 9-speed 11-34 
> cassette, with NOS Dura Ace 7700 mid-cage rear derailleur (wolftooth 
> roadlink to clear the 34t), Dura Ace 7800 double front derailleur. KMC 
> 10-speed X10SL with the gold treatment, because, gold! This all shifts 
> *wonderfully.*
>
> Accessories include Nitto F32 front rack with Tanaka stainless steel 
> basket held by Voile mini straps, Nitto 32r rear rack with cygolite rear 
> light mount. Front rack features upcycled 28t chainring for my cygolite 
> go-pro mount (blue lug style) and M6 brass set screws to fill the unused 
> braze-ons. Blue Lug yellow X-Strap bungee cords front and rear, with the x2 
> rainbow Rivendell straps laced through the basket to handle any odd things 
> to carry on the fly. Beautiful Nitto R bottle cage on top, with ultra rare 
> matching Nitto BG-L 1-liter bottle cage on the bottom. Greenfield kickstand 
> wrapped with newbaums purple. Purple Blue Lug Koma lights front and rear at 
> the drop-outs for when I forget to bring my nicer lights. Newbaums wrap on 
> top tube for convenient handle grip when carrying up/down stairs to the 
> train. Blue lug style newbaums chainstay guard. Hemp twine features 
> everywhere. Lastly, any unused braze-ons are populated with M5 brass set 
> screws, including the backside of the utilized hourglass mounts 
>
> Security includes hexlox axles, with the same keyed inserts for the 
> seatpost clamp, stem, and saddle. GPS sticker for theft deterrent. Hidden 
> air tag. Serial number registered in two bike indexes. I purchased a 
> Kryptonite mini New York u-lock off ebay ($60 new!). It is absurd and 
> confidence inspiring. Makes my evolution mini u-lock look like a joke. 
>
> One bit I forgot to mention. The inner position of the lower rear right 
> rack mount are positioned perfectly for a chain holder, as 80's touring 
> bikes used to have. An Acetal bushing with delrin washers result in not 
> just a chain holder, but the ability to backpedal and lube the chain wit 
> the wheel off. 
>
>
> Thanks for reading! 
> Armand 
> Santa Monica, CA
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: Appaloosa Overnighter

[Dan]

Thank you for the kind responses everyone.

Randy, Nicholas: I'd love to see photos of your Appaloosas set up for 
touring, if you haven't shared them already.

Patrick: I enjoy reading the reports from the foreign lands of the USA too 
;)
I wish I could see mountains on the horizon! 

On Wednesday 1 May 2024 at 04:12:22 UTC+9:30 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks for more very interesting report and photos from worldwide 
> Rivendell riders. The rangeland looks much like the US Southwest but 
> without the inevitable mountains on the horizon.
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 5:44 AM Dan  wrote:
>
>> I bought my Appaloosa because I wanted a bike for adventures. I wanted a 
>> bike that could take me and my things anywhere, on or off road. A bike that 
>> was comfortable enough to ride all day for days.
>>
>> To that end, one month after my new Appaloosa rolled out of the shop, I 
>> departed with a friend on what would be my first ever overnighter!
>>
>>
>> *Disaster strikes*
>>
>> On the morning of the ride I felt great. I was packed, I’d made it to the 
>> 7:28am train, and I was waiting at another station to join my friend on a 
>> train that would take us to the end of the line. Looking at my bike, I 
>> noticed the seat was a little crooked. I loosened the bolt, straightened 
>> the seat, and tightened it. The train arrived, I hopped on, said hi to my 
>> friend, and noticed the seat was still moving when I tried to twist it. So 
>> I attempted to tighten it some more.
>>
>>
>> **SNAP**
>>
>>
>> The seatpost binder bolt had snapped. I stared in disbelief at the broken 
>> bolt in my hands. No!
>>
>> I recalled reading on the Analog Cycles website that Rivs use a standard 
>> bolt for their seatposts, so we spent the remainder of the train ride 
>> frantically searching for an open hardware store. Unfortunately, it was the 
>> ANZAC Day public holiday and so all shops only opened at 12pm. We were out 
>> of luck. Defeated, we resigned to train back to town so I could swap my 
>> gear over to my Straggler.
>>
>> As we neared my front door, my friend had a brainwave. “What if you see 
>> if you have the right bolt at home?”. It turns out that I did - on an 
>> unused post-to-IS-mount disc brake adapter - and the Riv was on the road 
>> again! This time, I made sure to grease the bolt before install, and it 
>> tightened smoothly and snugly.
>>
>>
>> *On the Road*
>>
>> Our destination was a series of seaside holiday towns on the south coast 
>> of South Australia’s Fluerieu Peninsula. We started our riding at the end 
>> of the train line, in the picturesque wine region of McLaren Vale. After a 
>> well-earned coffee, we rode through autumn-hued vineyards before reaching 
>> the escarpment - our big climb for the day. I learned that even a 24x36 low 
>> gear doesn’t make for an easy climb of 10+% gravel grades, and we enjoyed a 
>> walk up the hill in good spirits.
>>
>>
>> Following lunch at the top of the escarpment, we made our way through the 
>> rolling landscape of the peninsula, passing through a forest plantation and 
>> several conservation parks on the way. After an unexpected creek crossing 
>> we ran in to a family of campers, whose comment of ‘I couldn’t imagine two 
>> bikes better set up for adventure’ left us in smiles. We even felt good 
>> about the next hour or so of alternately walking and riding through the 
>> sandy scrubland!
>>
>>
>> Despite the late start, we made it to the coast at the perfect time - 
>> just as the sun was setting. I’d planned the last few km to follow the bike 
>> path along the coast, and it was sublime.
>>
>> [image: IMG_1195.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: E0C3AD72-4167-49D8-95CC-B6678632E349.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_1221.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_1233.jpeg]
>>
>>
>>
>> *Day Two*
>>
>> I’m one of those people that just can’t ride the same way twice on one 
>> trip. My rides have to be loops. Our return leg was longer than the first 
>> one, eventuating in 90km of riding with some 1,400m of climbing. We set out 
>> early took our time, enjoying the expansive vistas from the gravel farm 
>> roads, and finding our zone in the long, gradual climbs. Memorable moments 
>> include meeting some people hiking the Heysen trail while we had stopped in 
>> what we thought was the middle of nowhere to have a snack, and coffee and 
>> scones in the cozy, wood-panelled cafe in the tiny town of Inman Valley. 
>> After passing through the Myponga reservoir and enjoying a beer an

Re: [RBW] Dog ride

[Dan Bluestein]

Patrick: It's urban and traficky where we live, so she rides in the trailer 
until we get a few miles up the hill to where there's more space around. 
Then she runs alongside, tethered to the trailer, a couple miles, until we 
get to where the trails are, where I lock up the trailer and she gets to 
run free while I ride. She stays in the trailer the whole way home 
downhill. She's a 41lb mutt: mostly german shepherd, pit and chow-chow, 
about 1.5 years old. She tolerates being in the the trailer just fine--she 
was gradually introduced to the trailer by giving her meals in there at 
first while it was on the ground, wheels off, then while slowly rolling it 
back and forth by hand, working up to pulling her around the back yard. But 
when running alongside, she used to get distracted by squirrels and try to 
chase them, sometimes pulling hard enough to tip the trailer on its side, 
the racket making her freak out and causing her to try to run more and drag 
the trailer, causing more racket and more freak-outs. But as she's gotten 
more mature that doesn't happen anymore. Our prior dog, for whom we 
originally got the trailer years ago, was a 75lb lab mix who would leap out 
the trailer's head-hole at every chance so he had to be zipped entirely 
inside and he'd bark the whole ride. I'm a scrawny lightweight so pulling 
him was never too fun and he definitely seemed like he wasn't into it so we 
gave up after maybe a dozen short rides. The trailer went on extended loan 
to a friend who used it infrequently and gave it back recently.

Robert: I've never heard of bikejoring, looks like fun, maybe I'll look 
into it when this pup gets a little older if she seems like she wants to 
pull.

On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 1:16:04 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Oh, and for no reason except that dogs are cute and fun: my ex wife's 
> miniature Aussie shepherd at about 3 months old, when she persuaded me to 
> watch her. I call her (the dog, Strudel) the "demon dog" because she has 
> light blue eyes.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 1:45 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Dan: Kudos: bike, dog, landscape. 
>>
>> On the question of bikes and dogs, generally: how many RBW-listers use 
>> their bikes to run their dogs? Kind and size of dog? Route and distance? 
>> How do you attach dog to self or bike?
>>
>> Me: Mutt, long and lean, ~20 lb, eager, energetic, agressive, 9 years's 
>> old mid-May; far too energetic for me to walk him, and I ain't a-gonna run. 
>> So I have a waist-belt dog leash which I use on a bike and we negotiate the 
>> annoying locks and gates to get to the nearby acequia ditchbank roads so 
>> that I can ride the mischief out of Perry for ~1.5 miles.
>>
>> I've thought of getting some sort of trailer to take Perry to the "dog" 
>> park some 2-3 miles away by the ABQ/Bernalillo County library branch. Do 
>> any of all y'all use trailers? Describe kind and temperament of dog and 
>> success with trailer.
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 1:25 PM Dan Bluestein  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, I haven't posted here in a while, but since there seems to be a 
>>> subset of folks here who like seeing people's dog photos in addition to 
>>> photos of people's bikes, and I finally got around to moving the trailer 
>>> hitch to my homer, here are a few shots from this past weekend with 
>>> beautiful weather here in the East Bay.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1162.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On our way up Tunnel Road bypass
>>> [image: IMG_1158.jpg]
>>>
>>> All wet after I had to holler at her to get out of the water (she 
>>> couldn't read the sign that said "no dogs in pond")
>>> [image: IMG_1160.jpg]
>>>
>>> Mt. Diablo in the background
>>> [image: IMG_1159.jpg]
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Dan
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>

[RBW] Re: Long wheelbase = long chain

[Dan]

Bill:
Yes, that’s how I’ve been managing it. Works perfectly that way, and I take 
it as good training for front derailluer shifts. 

Kiziria:
Thank you so much, that’s EXACTLY what I’m looking for! I’ll be sourcing 
one of these for sure. Wow. 

On Saturday 27 April 2024 at 09:05:18 UTC+9:30 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:

> Plenty of Shimano Shark Fin's on eBay and elsewhere still to be had. Chain 
> suck be gone. 
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:08:16 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> "maybe a different derailleur with stronger spring would lessen the chain 
>> flying around?"
>>
>> Or a derailleur with a clutch would lessen the chain flying around.  IMO 
>> there is some technique involved also.  The upper run of chain is only 
>> slack when you are coasting.  Keep it stuck in your head that if you are 
>> coasting you ought to already be in the big ring.  Maybe that's not 
>> practical on your terrain, but it's basically impossible for that chain 
>> mishap to happen from the big ring.  
>>
>> Another idea is a mullet tire setup: wider in front and narrower in back. 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito. CA
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:02:06 PM UTC-7 Dan wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to hijack this thread with a question relevant to the title, if 
>>> not the OP's actual question:
>>>
>>> *How do people manage the lng chain getting wedged between the tyre 
>>> and chainstay?*
>>> I'm loving my Appaloosa so far, but when I'm in my 24t chainring and on 
>>> a bumpy road, the chain flys around, hits the knobby side of my rear tyre, 
>>> and gets sucked in and wedged. It's not a great sound.
>>>
>>> My first angle of attack is to go for a slightly wider BB. There's a 
>>> 115mm BB installed now, but the crank manufacturer 
>>> <https://www.spacycles.co.uk/m8b0s109p3383/SPA-CYCLES-TD-2-Super-Compact-Chainset-with-Zicral-Rings>
>>>  
>>> recommends a 119mm.
>>> After that, I'm going to try and fashion a kind of chain bash guard like 
>>> Ultraromance did 
>>> <https://youtu.be/B_0qSPMps48?si=Mng6dfjgzG4_QoBY=234> on his 
>>> Atlantis for this very issue. Finally, I'd look at swapping the rear 
>>> derailleur for one with more tension maybe? I'm using the Deore M591, which 
>>> looks good, but maybe a different derailleur with stronger spring would 
>>> lessen the chain flying around?
>>>
>>> On Friday 26 April 2024 at 00:27:12 UTC+9:30 Edwin W wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a Joe Appa with long chain stays, which necessitates a long 
>>>> chain, longer than a single chain.
>>>>
>>>> For all of you out there with a long chain bike, what are your best 
>>>> tips/tricks/techniques for purchasing a chain. Where do you go for a long 
>>>> chain?
>>>>
>>>> What else do you think about with chain replacement, maintenance, etc...
>>>>
>>>> Lifelong learner, breaking cobbled together chains,
>>>>
>>>> Edwin
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Long wheelbase = long chain

[Dan]

I'd like to hijack this thread with a question relevant to the title, if 
not the OP's actual question:

*How do people manage the lng chain getting wedged between the tyre and 
chainstay?*
I'm loving my Appaloosa so far, but when I'm in my 24t chainring and on a 
bumpy road, the chain flys around, hits the knobby side of my rear tyre, 
and gets sucked in and wedged. It's not a great sound.

My first angle of attack is to go for a slightly wider BB. There's a 115mm 
BB installed now, but the crank manufacturer 

 
recommends a 119mm.
After that, I'm going to try and fashion a kind of chain bash guard like 
Ultraromance did  
on his Atlantis for this very issue. Finally, I'd look at swapping the rear 
derailleur for one with more tension maybe? I'm using the Deore M591, which 
looks good, but maybe a different derailleur with stronger spring would 
lessen the chain flying around?

On Friday 26 April 2024 at 00:27:12 UTC+9:30 Edwin W wrote:

> I have a Joe Appa with long chain stays, which necessitates a long chain, 
> longer than a single chain.
>
> For all of you out there with a long chain bike, what are your best 
> tips/tricks/techniques for purchasing a chain. Where do you go for a long 
> chain?
>
> What else do you think about with chain replacement, maintenance, etc...
>
> Lifelong learner, breaking cobbled together chains,
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] FS 2017 58cm (CTT) Homer AHH Frame, Fork, Headset

[Dan]

Relisting since Spring has sprung.

Dropped the price to $1300 + ship for the frame, fork, headset.

This is a 2017 "short" chainstay, Waterford (I believe) A. Homer Hilsen

It measures 58cm CTT (which is, I think, how Riv measures) or 56 CTC on the 
seattube x ~56.5cm TT. The chainstayz are 47cm (center of drop out to 
center of BB shell).

Condition-wise, this is a handsome frame but there are paint chips and 
wear, but no dents, no rust.

I might have parts you need, but I think I will hang onto my spare 650B 
wheels which I had previously offered. 

Fresh photos (just shot earlier today): 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WygAM61nM5u6uiNJA

Located in the greater LA area. I can get a box from the LBS and ship 
safely, with a label from PirateShip.

Cheers!

Daniel
Yorba Linda, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cantilevers or Direct Mount-Centerpulls

[Dan Sullivan]

That’s a beaut. Happy trails!

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:51:43 AM UTC-5 kyleco...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just an update - went with cantis! now i have to go buy the rest of the 
> bicycle...
>
> [image: bleriot.jpg]
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 5:12:14 PM UTC-8 Josiah Anderson wrote:
>
> I want to jump in here on one of my pet issues: "squishy" brakes are *not* 
> a problem provided they still stop well, and squish can be indicative of 
> good braking. If they feel stiff, all that means is that you don't have as 
> much mechanical advantage as you could, because of design or setup. If more 
> mechanical advantage is added, the pads and possibly the calipers WILL 
> squish, no matter what. It will feel "mushy" and there will be more power. 
> The best brakes I've ever used were v-brakes operated by short-pull levers, 
> which required very true wheels and felt extremely soft, but provided truly 
> impressive braking thanks to the high MA at both the lever and brake. That 
> was the setup that taught me that squishy brakes can be good. 
>
> Soft-feeling brakes also often allow for better modulation than a binary 
> "on-off" brake feeling. In a very stiff-feeling brake system, there is 
> minimal difference in braking power between just barely engaging the brake 
> and yanking as hard as you can, because the lever stops moving in a very 
> defined spot and no amount of force that human hands can apply will move it 
> farther, so the pads don't grip the rim any harder either. That is the 
> definition of a "stiff" feel; you can't get around that, only improve it 
> with more MA (and a softer brake feel). This means that the initial "bite" 
> needs to be very strong, which is the opposite of what I want from a brake. 
> I want to have control over exactly how much braking I get, from "very 
> little" to "STOP RIGHT NOW" and everywhere in between. Good centerpulls 
> absolutely can provide that, and the "squish" that you may feel is simply 
> the feeling of good modulation.
>
> However, if the "soft" feeling is from the caliper flexing (like Tektro 
> 559s do), that is not desirable, because the lever travel is just moving 
> the brake and not the pads. Those brakes have a relatively low MA (and low 
> usefulness as brakes) because if it were higher they would flex even worse. 
> Maybe this phenomenon is the root of the misunderstanding; if squishy 
> long-reach-sidepulls were the only soft-feeling brakes I'd experienced, 
> then I would probably shoot for stiffness too. 
>
> I hope that all makes sense and is helpful.
>
> Josiah Anderson
> Missoula MT
>
> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 4:06:12 PM UTC-5 kyleco...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Hey Christian thanks for all your thoughts! To answer a couple of your 
> questions:
>
> *Which CPs are you considering and what is your max tire size? *
> I was looking at the Rene Herse cps. I'd be looking to run 44's, but 42's 
> seem to be more intended for the Bleriot 
> . The Rene Herse are 
> for sure pricey, and I will be spending a bit as it is with the frame 
> builder mods. However, they state they have the clearance for 42s and 
> fenders. I have a pair of dia-compe canti's 
>  
> I love on another bicycle, so much so I put a pair on my girlfriend's 
> bicycle. On that note: @Patrick - I've gotten pretty comfy now at setting 
> up canti's with drop bars. Specifically the dia-comps. It's all about 
> getting that straddle wire set up in the right position. I have done it 
> poorly on other pairs of cantis and been called out by real mechanics haha.
>
> *Will you be using fenders? *
> Potentially. I see most of these tours happening in summer and hopefully 
> some that require a flight in the nearish future. I'd probably snag a pair 
> of SKS for easy mounting and peace of mind when flying. not so much of a 
> big deal if my plastic fenders get damaged instead of banging up a nice 
> pair of honjos!
>
> *Are you planning on mounting anything to the brake studs (racks, lights 
> etc)?*
> If I did canti's I would likely get a Nitto M12 and attach it to the 
> brakes. I do plan on having low rider pannier attachments put on for a 
> nitto s rack 
> 
> .
>
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 12:17 PM christian poppell  
> wrote:
>
> Hey Kyle! 
>
> I have used cantilevers and direct mounted centerpulls (MAFAC RAID with 
> new Rene Herse hardware). If I could do it over I would have installed 
> cantilevers. The downsides for centerpulls for me are modulation, fender 
> fitting, and braze on locations on the fork. 
>
> Modulation - The MAFAC RAID brakes feel more squishy to me, even after 
> adding a brake booster to the rear. Also, despite my best efforts, I have 
> not been able to eliminate the howling from the rear brake. I threw 
> 

[RBW] Re: FS Paul Comp Racer - Pair 'o' silver w/ hangers, fresh pads

[Dan]

Good morning. Saturday morning price drop to... $320

On Friday, April 12, 2024 at 6:59:37 AM UTC-7 Dan wrote:

> This is a nice way to upgrade your braking with a MUSA classic.
>
> recessed mount Racers in silver (anodized) finish
> Paul straddle wire
> roller straddle hanger
> fresh (NIB) Kool Stops (same as stock)
> Surly (rear) cable hanger
> 1" headset mounted cable hanger with barrel adjuster
> Red cherry cable ends
>
> see https://photos.app.goo.gl/C8JdRuNGGsnwCek8A for pictures
>
> $340 shipped/insured 
>
> Dan
> Yorba Linda, CA, USA
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[RBW] FS Paul Comp Racer - Pair 'o' silver w/ hangers, fresh pads

[Dan]

This is a nice way to upgrade your braking with a MUSA classic.

recessed mount Racers in silver (anodized) finish
Paul straddle wire
roller straddle hanger
fresh (NIB) Kool Stops (same as stock)
Surly (rear) cable hanger
1" headset mounted cable hanger with barrel adjuster
Red cherry cable ends

see https://photos.app.goo.gl/C8JdRuNGGsnwCek8A for pictures

$340 shipped/insured 

Dan
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[RBW] Re: Long Chainstays - What Problem/Deficiency Do They Solve?

[Dan]

Roy, I've found I have BETTER climbing ability on my Appaloosa with its 
super-long stays. If you stay seated your weight is rearward enough for 
traction, and thanks to the long stays the front end doesn't want to lift. 
That means you don't have to lean forward as much as you would on a 
regular-stayed bike which again improves traction on the rear end.
In practice, climbing steep dirt paths with the Appaloosa feels like I have 
a motor out back that pushes me up the hill. It's great!

On Saturday 6 April 2024 at 11:15:28 UTC+10:30 Roy Summer wrote:

>
> Long chain stays usually mean a longer wheelbase which means a more 
> comfortable ride because you’re not sitting on top of the rear wheel (think 
> compact car vs. limo) and less climbing ability as the rider, again, is not 
> sitting over the rear wheel. That said, use a lower gear to climb and don’t 
> worry about being first in the mountain stages at the TDF. A longer 
> wheelbase also generally results in a somewhat slower handling bike ( not 
> that it is dangerous, just not twitchy) so leave the long chain stay ride 
> home when you do your next crit.
> On Sunday, March 31, 2024 at 1:50:18 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ 
> wrote:
>
>> Enjoyed reading the thread "Anyone else not a fan of long chainstays?", 
>> especially Bill L's explanation of the RBW bike design philosophy.   Seems 
>> the prevailing thought is long stays are better for
>> upright riding
>> single track type trails (vs a Rails to Trails type trail)
>>
>> I'll just note 2 'facts'
>> 1  The vast majority of RBW models (except the Roadeo type frame) use 
>> slack STA and HTA which may contribute to the ride effect when coupled with 
>> long stays.
>> 2.  In the beginning RBW addressed getting the bars higher and adopting a 
>> non-racer riding style (back at 45° with hands on hoods), which IMHO were 
>> solutions to actual problems.
>>
>> *So What problem or current deficiency in bike design is Grant solving by 
>> using long chain stays*
>> Just to bring bikes to market that no one else is building??
>> Or do they solve a real problem???
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> FWIW 2 of 3 of my frames have 44 to 45cm chain stays, and 1 has a 43cm 
>> chain stay.It's hard to notice a ride difference.
>>
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[RBW] Re: NBD - Purple Appaloosa

[Dan]

Thank you everyone for your kind words. I'm enjoying the bike more the more 
I ride it - it engenders a different, more relaxed pace - perfect for 
exploring.

Eric, your Appaloosa with Ortho bars was an insipiration for me, so your 
words mean a lot!

Jay - funny you mention C, because this frame actually made its way to me 
from them! They are super nice people and I love what they're doing with 
bikes (obviously).

On Saturday 6 April 2024 at 05:17:36 UTC+10:30 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Great post and run-down, Dan! The Appaloosa is lookin' good. 
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 5:29:46 PM UTC-4 Jay wrote:
>
>> I also love this post!
>>
>> I was in C Cycle, home of the Bassi and noticed the Bloomfield.  That 
>> caught me eye in your write up so I thought I would mention.
>>
>> That purple is amazing.  Enjoy!
>>
>> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 12:55:20 PM UTC-4 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Great story and pics, thanks for sharing Dan. Congrats on the new bike. 
>>> It's making me want to put rons bars back on the atlantis. 
>>>
>>> mike in austin tx
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 2:44:46 AM UTC-5 Dan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone, I’d like to share the story of my new purple Appaloosa. 
>>>> I’ve gained a great deal of insight and enjoyment from reading this forum, 
>>>> so it’s only right that I return the favour with a story of my own.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From the first time I had heard that there was a company called 
>>>> Rivendell, I knew that someday I’d be riding one. I’d avidly read Tolkein 
>>>> in my childhood, so to hear that there were LotR themed bicycles - and 
>>>> that 
>>>> they were so beautiful! - was just fascinating to me. The more I read 
>>>> about 
>>>> the bikes and the philosophy, the more I was convinced. The final straw 
>>>> was 
>>>> coming across ‘Calling In Sick Magazine’, aka the unofficial Rivendell fan 
>>>> magazine. Reading the stories and looking at the photos of those people 
>>>> riding on dry hills near the ocean, in terrain not to dissimilar to what I 
>>>> ride here in Adelaide, Australia, gave me the impetus to make my dream a 
>>>> reality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, why did I choose an Appaloosa? To answer that, here is a little bit 
>>>> about the other bikes in my stable…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Surly Straggler*
>>>>
>>>> This was my first ‘nice’ bike, the first bike I actually did any 
>>>> research on before buying. I bought it to be my only bike and a do-it-all 
>>>> bike, one that would be reliable and fun both day-to-day and on riding 
>>>> anywhere and everywhere when I felt like adventure. In that, it’s met all 
>>>> my expectations and then some. It’s set up with a rack and fenders as a 
>>>> commuter, but over time I’ve tweaked it with wider, flared drops, fatter, 
>>>> more supple rubber and lower gearing to suit my increasing desire to 
>>>> explore. I’ve ridden this bike on two (metric) centuries, countless 
>>>> suburban explorations, in the rain, on gravel, and on single track. It 
>>>> does 
>>>> it all, more or less. I’ve never liked the looks of the stack of spacers I 
>>>> needed to get the bars high, and the gearing is probably a bit high, 
>>>> though 
>>>> that has made me stronger. Descending on the dirt, even with the flared 
>>>> drops, is a whole-body workout. Side note - I actually wanted a Cross 
>>>> Check, but they weren’t available to order in Australia when I bought this 
>>>> bike.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_0580.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Bassi Bloomfield*
>>>>
>>>> It took a while to allow myself the thought that it was ok to have more 
>>>> than one bike. I’d been browsing Blue Lug and watching Terry Barentsen 
>>>> during the pandemic and fell in love with the idea of 650b, fat tyres, 
>>>> upright bars and front baskets. The day after I’d decided that I could get 
>>>> myself another bike, my local bike shop listed a whole bunch of Bassi 
>>>> frames for sale. The clearance for wide 650b tyres and the flower head 
>>>> tube 
>>>> graphic sold me instantly!
>>>>
>>>> This bike has been a revelation for me. There’s something about it - 
>>>> the wide bars, the light frame

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

[Dan]

Chris, can I ask how this ended up working for you? If so, what shim did 
you use?

I've set up my Appaloosa with the Orthos and a 120mm VO single-bolt 26.0mm 
stem.
The comfort and control is FANTASTIC, but I can make the bars slip if I 
push down on them hard. So far it hasn't happened while riding, but it 
makes me feel a little uneasy that it might be possible.

I'm wondering if I need to go for a 31.8mm Nitto faceplater or, *gasp*, a 
threadless adapter and threadless stem :S
On Wednesday 13 March 2024 at 09:07:59 UTC+10:30 Chris K wrote:

> Again, thanks much for all the replies and info. I think I'll get the 135 
> Faceplater. The reason for getting the Nitto Riv version instead of one of 
> these awesome Ritchie's is I need the extra height.
>
> FWIW, Ron says a 25.4 clamp works with the 26.0 bar if you pry it open 
> just a touch to fit it in. Bit of a hack I suppose, but I'm gonna give it a 
> shot.
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 3:27 PM Brian McDermott  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I went from Billies to orthos on my Appaloosa, had to go from a 120 to 
>> 130 for the extra sweep. Finding a suitable 26.0 stem was a challenge, 
>> ended up with a Miyata pantographed stem from eBay.
>> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 10:03:24 AM UTC-7 Chris K wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, I've got some Ortho Bars in my cart and looking for stem advice 
>>> from those who use this bar. Obv there are multiple fit and frame factors 
>>> that play into something like this, but curious what people are generally 
>>> going with. Here are the options I'm deciding between:
>>>
>>> - Faceplater 110mm
>>> - Faceplater 135mm
>>> - Tallux 12cm
>>>
>>> Will the 110 Faceplater be too short?
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm 650B AHH F/F/HS

[Dan]

Good morning. I was told that the measurements didn't come through clearly 
in the pictures, so I remeasured and this is a 56. It's squarely 56cm, 
measured center to center. When I posted yesterday I misremembered and 
unfortunately I can't change the subject line.  *It is a 56cm.* 

The seat tube measures 56cm CTC and the TT (CTC, but there's a 2* slope) is 
about 562. Riv's geo chart is here: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20170602082329/https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry

And here's the geo on BikeInsights (comparing the 56 and the 58): 
https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5a1e69902a0c030014708caa,5a1e69902a0c030014708cab,

Finally, here's the product page from that same archive/same era is here: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20170704042854/https://www.rivbike.com/collections/framesets/products/a-homer-hilsen

The only picture with the measuring tape I can discern is the headtube 
(~246mm), which is not a helpful measurement, IMO, but I know a lot of 
people look at that like gospel.



Daniel in LA, CA, USA
On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 4:52:13 PM UTC-8 Dan wrote:

> I have a 2017 58cm AHH that is I'm ready to pass along to a new home. This 
> is a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hillsen, which I believe makes it a Waterford.  
> Frame shows some chips and wear but no dents, no rust. Seatpost not 
> included. Additional parts are available; let me know what you might need. 
> Asking $1400 + shipping. Price includes frame, fork, and Tange headset. 
>
> For +$300 (only with the frameset), I'll include wheels and tire. Wheels 
> are all silver with Velocity rims, SP dynamo, Bitex cassette rear, wrapped 
> in (white) Soma Grand Randonneur tires, plus 1 extra tires (still in 
> wrapper). 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/WygAM61nM5u6uiNJA
>
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> LA, CA, USA
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[RBW] FS: 58cm 650B AHH F/F/HS

[Dan]

I have a 2017 58cm AHH that is I'm ready to pass along to a new home. This 
is a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hillsen, which I believe makes it a Waterford.  
Frame shows some chips and wear but no dents, no rust. Seatpost not 
included. Additional parts are available; let me know what you might need. 
Asking $1400 + shipping. Price includes frame, fork, and Tange headset. 

For +$300 (only with the frameset), I'll include wheels and tire. Wheels 
are all silver with Velocity rims, SP dynamo, Bitex cassette rear, wrapped 
in (white) Soma Grand Randonneur tires, plus 1 extra tires (still in 
wrapper). 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WygAM61nM5u6uiNJA

Daniel
LA, CA, USA

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[RBW] Re: HUGE Rivendell archive update: Catalogs, flyers, brochures and more

[Dan F]

Wow, what a treat. Thank you, Eric!

On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 1:08:47 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've spent the last several months scanning my collection of Rivendell 
> catalogs, flyers, ads and brochures. 
>
> Reed, who hosts the archive of Rivendell Readers at 
> http://notfine.com/rivreader/, kindly added all of my scans to the site. 
> Now there is quite a trove of Rivendell ephemera. 
>
> He created a new link (the old one still works!): 
> http://notfine.com/rivendell/
>
> Enjoy reading! All of the files are text searchable. If you have anything 
> that we haven't included please send me a DM. 
>
>
>- All 20 Rivendell catalogs
>   -  Catalogs from 1996-2018
>- Frame brochures
>   - 1995 frames mailer
>   - Atlantis and Atlantis 2
>   - Rambouillet
>   - Romulus
>   - Rivendell Frame Brochure
>   - An early frame paint chart
>   - *I'm missing the Cheviot brochure*
>- Flyers
>   - Nine flyers from 2002–2009
>   - *I'm missing Hiawatha Holidays No. 1 *
>- Ads
>   - An add for the reader from Vintage Bicycle Quarterly
>   - A 2014 Cheviot ad
>
>
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Re: [RBW] San Francisco/Bay Area Riv Riders

[Dan Bluestein]

I haven't ridden 3 Bears in a while -- if only I wasn't away this weekend. 
Next time, though!
--dan (Oakland)
On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:03:23 AM UTC-7 diana@gmail.com wrote:

> Anybody want to do this ride tomorrow? - 
> https://bayareabikerides.net/the-three-bears/ 
>
> Was thinking the intermediate loop 28.5 miles? Start at 9:30 am?
>
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 7:11:26 AM UTC-7 Diana H wrote:
>
>> I'm in Lower Haight area. Happy to jump on the Bart to meet folks. I'm 
>> riding my Platypus and happy for road and/or a little gravel. 
>>
>> Saturday might be toasty so I vote for a morning start. I'm game for 
>> anything up to ~30 miles.
>>
>> Diana
>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:02:54 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> You can even buy them from me! If I can find them, they're around here 
>>> somewhere. I don't live in the area anymore so don't need them, if anybody 
>>> wants to pay some kinda cash gimme a holler. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 5:13 PM Diana H  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> First time posting! I would love to meet fellow Riv riders in the Bay 
>>>>> area. Is anybody available this Saturday 8/5? I moved to the Bay area 
>>>>> recently and don't know many places to ride yet, so open to ideas! 
>>>>
>>>> I highly recommend you get yourself a copy of Roads to Ride (
>>>> https://amzn.to/3YjHJAl), and  Roads to Ride South (
>>>> https://amzn.to/3YkOlyM). They're both written by this gentleman 
>>>> called Grant Petersen. You might have heard of him.
>>>>
>>>> The books were written in the 1980s/1990s, but they're still mostly 
>>>> good and highly recommended. It's OK to buy them used. Grant told me he 
>>>> never saw any royalties from the books before the publishing company went 
>>>> under.
>>>>
>>>> Piaw
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Summer Riding Photos 2023

[Dan Bluestein]

We camped at Glen but took an afternoon walk from there to Wildcat. It
helped getting a site since we were able to take off work and go on a
Monday.


On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 6:34 PM Piaw Na(藍俊彪)  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 6:29 PM Dan Bluestein 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Recently I took advantage of child #1 being off at a sleep-away camp to
>> leave my wife with only child #2 to look after and managed to get in my
>> first overnighter since I got the Homer. This was an overlapping trip to
>> the birthday ride I posted about last month, from the East Bay across the
>> bay to Point Reyes National Seashore. here are a few shots.
>>
>>
> Was this to Wildcat Campground? I've been trying to get that site for ages
> and have never had any luck!
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[RBW] FS: (Riv-adjacent) Black Mountain Cycles "Road"

[Dan]

For your consideration: my 62cm Black Mountain Cycles "Road" in the Merckx 
colorway. Build is Shimano Tiagra/GRX w/ Wolfooth NW ring, Thomson seapost 
and collar, Fizik stem, Pro bars, Tektro brakes, front brake lever is a 
Tektro aero, rear is a Tiagra brifter, Panaracer Gravel King tires. Saddle 
not included.

Shown with 82cm saddle height:
https://imgur.com/a/NPQNQvb

Is it a Rivendell? Sorry, no, but the geo is close to a 61cm Roadeo but 
with 20mm more reach (and some other minor differences that I consider 
close enough to come out in the wash):  
https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5d61b35e6b56b4001760f48d,5b8578f548f3a30004789b17,=,64aacf93ef92a7001f16d310,

$1050. Located in SoCal.  I have a bike box and will ship at cost 
(PirateShip--or you provide label), if you're not local.

Dan Af
Yorba Linda, CA

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Summer Riding Photos 2023

[Dan Bluestein]

Thanks Brian! The bar wrap is teal, but dusty from the trail. I had the
bike built by riv and didn't specify anything either way regarding
treatment but I think they put on a coat of clear shellac (this is my first
time using cloth tape and not sure I know the difference between shellacked
and not, but it doesn't seem like just plain fabric).

All--I agree with Ted, keep the photos coming. It's everyone's beautiful
images that inspired me to stop being a lurker and share mine.

--dan


On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 4:52 PM Brian Turner  wrote:

> Dan, those photos are incredible, and your Homer looks fantastic! Curious,
> what color is the cloth bar wrap on your bars? Is it treated with shellac
> or anything?
>
> - Brian
>
> On Jun 19, 2023, at 4:39 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
> From Wikipedia and the photos Google brought up, what a wonderful area,
> both as to the landscape and as to the social history -- Shakers and other
> utopianists who, even if one deprecates their naif attempts at
> human-constructed social perfection, at least sought to transcend petty
> commercial mundanity, and to do so in a beautiful natural environment.
>
> The stone wall made me think of rural Britain but the extent and relative
> "spareness" of the landscape (and the  mortar in the wall) made me think of
> NA.
>
> From the SOMA website the Pescadero does seem to be a near cousin to the
> Rambouillet. Again, the aesthetic of the bike matches that of the landscape.
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 2:06 PM DavidP  wrote:
>
>> Patrick, this is in Harvard, MA; my area of Massachusetts doesn't have a
>> ton of hills high enough to give overlooks but this is a decent one. The
>> bike is a Soma Pescadero with 700x33s under the VO fenders and Diacompe
>> GC610 centerpulls - somewhat inspired by some of the Rambouillet / Romulus
>> builds I've seen.
>>
>> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 3:03:05 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> David: Where was this photo taken? Beautiful SOMA -- what model? -- and
>>> beautiful scenery (as is that in the Seattle and BC and Oakland photos).
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, who must take some bosque acequia-trail photos with the
>>> cottonwood fluff in the air.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 10:51 AM DavidP  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Taking in the view at the top of the hill this morning.
>>>>
>>>> [image: PXL_20230619_130242278_prospect--hill-1800.jpg]
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Suntour Cyclone GT long cage

[Dan Bluestein]

Like Reginald suggested, I bent a new tab onto the end of one of those 
springs a year or two ago. It has held up so far, but the derailer is only 
in use as a tensioner on a dinglespeed. Getting the bend angled so that it 
would go back together correctly was a little bit of a nuisance, but if 
nobody has an intact derailer for you, give it a try.

Dan

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 2:04:49 AM UTC-7 R. Alexis wrote:

> Wonder if you can bend a new tab on the end of that spring to make it 
> work? 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 4:39:54 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello friends — On yesterday's ride I broke one of the tabs on the chain 
>> tension spring of my Cyclone rear mech. 
>>
>> If you have a long cage Cyclone you'd part with please let me know your 
>> price shipped to me in Virginia, 22401. 
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Here you can see the spring and the bright metal from the fresh break. I 
>> even found the little piece of spring that broke free. 
>>
>> [image: cyclone1.png]
>>
>> [image: cyclone2.png]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Hillborne vs. Romulus?

[Dan Sullivan]

Brian, I’ve been looking at the Crust LB with a lot of interest. Another 
Bob in the Madison area has one too. If the the RB-T hadn’t come along I 
may have pulled the trigger on one of those at some point.

Dan

On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 12:23:11 PM UTC-6 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dave, if you are alright with 650b wheels the canti-brake Crust Lightning 
> bolt may fit your description. I believe 650x48 unfendered is about max but 
> check their site to be sure.
>
> Brian
>
> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-6 Dave C wrote:
>
>> I was in a rush yesterday evening when I wrote my last post; here is a 
>> bit more information that might be useful. I have a Romulus, a Hilsen, a 
>> Soma Double Cross, and I used to have an Atlantis that I owned for ten 
>> years (1st ten Toyo). They are all great bikes, but I think that one's 
>> weight, their load, and the terrain and tires make a big difference in how 
>> the bike feels and the perceptions of stiffness. My Atlantis was an 
>> excellent bike, and I sold it due to size (I wanted to run larger tires on 
>> it and it was too large once I put bigger tires on it). For lightly loaded 
>> riding, I prefer the Romulus and Soma, which feel very pleasant with 
>> vigorous efforts on hills, an important quality to me. I believe off road 
>> and/or with greater loads, the bikes may feel differently, but I am still 
>> testing out the Hilsen further. I do have the Hilsen for sale, because I 
>> need a bike more like the Romulus but with tire clearances similar to the 
>> old Atlantis. That is a hard niche to fill, because it seems most bikes 
>> that clear a 45-50 tend to be built up more stiffly relative to the 
>> Romulus. I really believe that our personal attributes are just as 
>> important as the bike's construction; people often state "this bike is 
>> flexy/stiff" but I think it's probably more accurate to say "for my weight 
>> and riding choices, this bike is flexy/stiff". Dave in Carlsbad
>>
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 6:31:55 PM UTC-8 Dave C wrote:
>>
>>> Dan, I have been meaning to write a post about some long term riding 
>>> comparisons I have been making between a Toyo Homer and a Toyo Romulus. I 
>>> have more to say, but I will keep it simple for the moment - yes, there is 
>>> a difference. I have a 59 cm Romulus that rides differently, more flexy in 
>>> a good sense, than the 61 cm Homer.  I will add more later, but I believe 
>>> the Romulus is at my weight -175 pounds - a better ride for light loads and 
>>> fast rides, and the the Homer is a little more stiff, perhaps an advantage 
>>> with greater weight loads. I would wager the Sam will be more like the 
>>> Homer than the Romulus. If you have a 59 cm Romulus, I will buy it from 
>>> you. I have. side pull Romulus and would like a canti one as well.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-8 Dan Sullivan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wondering what people who have experience with both the early 
>>>> Hillbornes with cantis and the Romulus think about the two in terms of 
>>>> overall impression -- is one "speedier" than the other, or is one stiffer, 
>>>> etc, those kinds of things.  I get that the Hillborne is a tad longer 
>>>> wheelbase and more tire clearance, but just wondering if one or the other 
>>>> is noticeably stiffer than the other?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I have gotten the itch to change things up in my fleet (of two, 
>>>> really not a fleet at all) and since test rides are out of the question 
>>>> looking to the group for advice/opinion.
>>>>
>>>> thanks, Dan in the deep freeze of winter in Mount Horeb, WI
>>>>
>>>> ps. I have a canti-Rom, looking at a first-gen green Sam
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Hillborne vs. Romulus?

[Dan Sullivan]

Dave, thanks for all this. My original post took over a week to clear the 
moderators (apparently) and in the meantime a very nice 91 Bstone RB-T came 
available and I jumped on it. I had one a few years back and have been 
keeping one eye open (off and on) for another one since it was my fave of 
all time.

Anyways, my Rom is a 63 and I haven’t yet decided what I’m going to do with 
it.I like it a lot, the color is great, it rides and fits nice and fits a 
38 gravel king w/o fenders. The T fits a 38 WITH fenders though and since 
my storage is limited I will part with one of them at some point, most 
likely. My BMC monster cross isn’t going anywhere, nor is the screamer 
tandem.

Dan
Mount Horeb, WI
On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-6 Dave C wrote:

> I was in a rush yesterday evening when I wrote my last post; here is a bit 
> more information that might be useful. I have a Romulus, a Hilsen, a Soma 
> Double Cross, and I used to have an Atlantis that I owned for ten years 
> (1st ten Toyo). They are all great bikes, but I think that one's weight, 
> their load, and the terrain and tires make a big difference in how the bike 
> feels and the perceptions of stiffness. My Atlantis was an excellent bike, 
> and I sold it due to size (I wanted to run larger tires on it and it was 
> too large once I put bigger tires on it). For lightly loaded riding, I 
> prefer the Romulus and Soma, which feel very pleasant with vigorous efforts 
> on hills, an important quality to me. I believe off road and/or with 
> greater loads, the bikes may feel differently, but I am still testing out 
> the Hilsen further. I do have the Hilsen for sale, because I need a bike 
> more like the Romulus but with tire clearances similar to the old Atlantis. 
> That is a hard niche to fill, because it seems most bikes that clear a 
> 45-50 tend to be built up more stiffly relative to the Romulus. I really 
> believe that our personal attributes are just as important as the bike's 
> construction; people often state "this bike is flexy/stiff" but I think 
> it's probably more accurate to say "for my weight and riding choices, this 
> bike is flexy/stiff". Dave in Carlsbad
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 6:31:55 PM UTC-8 Dave C wrote:
>
>> Dan, I have been meaning to write a post about some long term riding 
>> comparisons I have been making between a Toyo Homer and a Toyo Romulus. I 
>> have more to say, but I will keep it simple for the moment - yes, there is 
>> a difference. I have a 59 cm Romulus that rides differently, more flexy in 
>> a good sense, than the 61 cm Homer.  I will add more later, but I believe 
>> the Romulus is at my weight -175 pounds - a better ride for light loads and 
>> fast rides, and the the Homer is a little more stiff, perhaps an advantage 
>> with greater weight loads. I would wager the Sam will be more like the 
>> Homer than the Romulus. If you have a 59 cm Romulus, I will buy it from 
>> you. I have. side pull Romulus and would like a canti one as well.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-8 Dan Sullivan wrote:
>>
>>> Wondering what people who have experience with both the early Hillbornes 
>>> with cantis and the Romulus think about the two in terms of overall 
>>> impression -- is one "speedier" than the other, or is one stiffer, etc, 
>>> those kinds of things.  I get that the Hillborne is a tad longer wheelbase 
>>> and more tire clearance, but just wondering if one or the other is 
>>> noticeably stiffer than the other?
>>>
>>> Thanks, I have gotten the itch to change things up in my fleet (of two, 
>>> really not a fleet at all) and since test rides are out of the question 
>>> looking to the group for advice/opinion.
>>>
>>> thanks, Dan in the deep freeze of winter in Mount Horeb, WI
>>>
>>> ps. I have a canti-Rom, looking at a first-gen green Sam
>>>
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[RBW] Hillborne vs. Romulus?

[Dan Sullivan]

Wondering what people who have experience with both the early Hillbornes 
with cantis and the Romulus think about the two in terms of overall 
impression -- is one "speedier" than the other, or is one stiffer, etc, 
those kinds of things.  I get that the Hillborne is a tad longer wheelbase 
and more tire clearance, but just wondering if one or the other is 
noticeably stiffer than the other?

Thanks, I have gotten the itch to change things up in my fleet (of two, 
really not a fleet at all) and since test rides are out of the question 
looking to the group for advice/opinion.

thanks, Dan in the deep freeze of winter in Mount Horeb, WI

ps. I have a canti-Rom, looking at a first-gen green Sam

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[RBW] WTB: Rosco Platypus 50cm Purple

[Dan Vee]

Hey.

Curious if anyone here might have one they are looking to sell?  Could be a
frameset or possibly a complete.

Thanks
-Dan

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: New 57cm Roadini Frameset (Orange) + headset, 559 brakes, Nitto seatpost

[Dan Leahul]

Care to indulge further as to why the Roadini didn't work out for you? I'm
looking for one in this size, but I've never ridden one. I'm looking to
replace my aggressive fat tire road bike with something a little more chill
(and easier on the back), plus it's become mostly redundant with my
aggressive fat tire gravel bike.

Thanks,

Dan

On Mon., Jan. 9, 2023, 5:46 p.m. Andrew Turner, 
wrote:

> Pictures can be found in my FS album here.
> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/5q3GaT9EnzUh7yzt5>
> The only places where there's paint damage are the dropouts and below the
> fork crown, so nothing all that visible. This is the 2022 model that fits
> up to a 45mm tire.
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 11:33:40 AM UTC-6 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>> PM sent.
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 1:00:19 PM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I bought the frameset new from Riv a month ago but after 50 miles of
>>> riding I simply do not enjoy the way it rides compared to my other road
>>> bike so I'm casting this one back out. It's got the FSA headset installed
>>> with some pewter headset spacers from BlueLug, new Tektro 559 brake
>>> callipers and a new Nitto S65 300mm seatpost. There's a few paint nicks I
>>> gave it because I'm a sloppy mechanic and installing fenders was a
>>> wrestling match, but nothing serious or all that visible.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty bummed it didn't work out for me but I hope it finds a new
>>> home!
>>>
>>> Asking $1375 which will include shipping, DM if you want pics
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andrew
>>>
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[RBW] WTB: Discord Peeper 30mm aluminum Stem

[Dan Vee]

Hey

Curious if anyone might have one of these they’re looking to sell? Thanks!

- Dan
Jersey

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Re: [RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Dan Leahul]

I'm going on my ninth year of owning my Paul Racers. I have no doubts that
they'll last me my cycling lifetime. They are clever, overbuilt, beautiful
brakes. Using these in their long reach context, they offer many times over
more braking power and braking feel than anything else out there (r559, Dia
Compe, etc). A few hundred dollars for decades of blissful braking doesn't
seem like that bad of a deal, unless you're working with a extreme budget.

Seems odd to have to convince a Rivendell owner the value of Paul
Components! The two companies seem very similar in terms of offerings and
ethos.

I say buy them and never look back.

Dan in Canada 

On Sun., Sep. 25, 2022, 5:51 p.m. Joe Bernard,  wrote:

> Yes he should buy what he wants, my answer is my experience and how I feel
> about it. It's also based on the budget I was working with a couple years
> ago, I'm not currently operating with Paul money! 螺
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:20:51 PM UTC-7 Minh wrote:
>
>> you're responses are going to be a little skewed by asking on this group,
>> as most of us have decided that 'worth it' are based on other things beside
>> $$ value.   from a functional standpoint you can get other brakes that are
>> more affordable and function nearly the same.   if you want to split the
>> difference consider forgoing the brakes and treating yourself to the
>> levers, they will bring you a little bit of joy everytime you touch them
>> and remind you about the person that gave you the gift.
>>
>> there's no wrong decision here, its really personal so do what feels
>> right to you regardless of what others may say, welcome and enjoy!
>>
>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 6:08:52 PM UTC-4 velomann wrote:
>>
>>> They are absolutely worth the money in terms of quality, function, and
>>> supporting a great company. I own and use every type of brake Paul makes,
>>> and lots of others and the Motolites combined with the Paul levers are
>>> absolutely the best rim brakes I have ever used. And yes I disagree that
>>> they are difficult to set up, especially compared to many older canti
>>> brakes out there. The two-nut system all Paul brakes use is (to my mind)
>>> intuitive and once you get it, all Paul rim brakes set up basically the
>>> same way.
>>> And the Motolites are one of the only rim brakes that allows you to
>>> (within reason) swap wheel sizes. I can run 700c wheels on my 650b Sam
>>> Hillborne no problem (except removing the fenders.)
>>> I do recommend purchasing the Paul Bottle Opener tool
>>> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/service-parts/tools/bottle-opener/
>>> Yes you can adjust Paul brake tension with a 15mm box wrench or cone
>>> wrench, but the angle and width that matches the Paul brake nut is really
>>> helpful and it's a nice tool to keep in you on-bike kit.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:52:35 AM UTC-7 Bill Fulford wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was recently gifted $500 to Rivendell. My plan was to upgrade my 2007
>>>> Atlantis with Paul brakes and levers. I placed the order only to read later
>>>> that the brakes are sold per wheel. That’s  more than I wanted to spend. So
>>>> before I call Rivendell tomorrow morning to cancel I’m wondering how folks
>>>> feel about these brakes? I would be ordering the linear pull brake with
>>>> love levers. Are they worth it?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Canti-Rom - 63 cm - CA Delivery

[Dan Sullivan]

these are a great color.  I've got one that shares time with my BMC 
monstercross.  Really a nice, light, fast bike and it seems like everyone 
who sees it comments on the color. I run 38 Gravel Kings that are wonderful 
tires.

Dan in the driftless hills of SW Wisconsin

On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 9:07:56 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:

> What a great color! Rare bike, fat road tires, Golden Age fit and finish. 
> I’d get this in a heartbeat, if I didn’t already have a shiny green 
> “French Fit” custom. 
>
> Philip
> Sonoma County, Calif
>
> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 12:15:48 PM UTC-7 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>
>>
>> Bump: price listed includes delivery from me to California buyer in 
>> August, with no unboxing. I’d just hand over the bike. Or make offer.
>>
>> I have additional photos sendable to anyone interested.
>>
>> - Jimmy Warren
>>
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:51 AM, James Warren  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>>
>> Standover is just under 88 cm with the Panaracer 700x37s on the bike.
>>
>> - Jimmy
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2022, at 11:39 AM, Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim
>> What is the standover height on this beautiful bike?  
>> Mike SLO CA
>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 4:05:43 PM UTC-7 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi RBW Forum Friends, 
>>>
>>> Photos show a bike that’s been in my large hoard that has always gotten 
>>> way too few miles. (I have a Ram and a Hunq and a Hillborne and an Atlantis 
>>> and about 12 other bikes, so the Rom has often sat in my collection as 
>>> “cool to own,” but it’s a great, versatile road bike that needs to get out 
>>> there. I’ve taken great care of it since 2006 (when I got it via trade for 
>>> a Heron touring on this forum), and the frame has very few scratches and is 
>>> in outstanding condition. 
>>>
>>> I have a 93 cm PBH, so this frame is about 1 cm too small for me. The 
>>> long and high Nitto stem in the photos shows how I addressed it and made 
>>> the frame size work for me.. I have many other stems if the buyer wants a 
>>> different dimension stem swapped in (but that would mess up the cork bar 
>>> tape.) The saddle height in the photos is probably a bit lower than my 
>>> usual 81 cm. 
>>>
>>> Asking $1500 which includes delivery to the buyer in California. 
>>> Avoiding shipping is my desire, and I enjoy CA road trips in the month of 
>>> August. Before August 11 or 12 would be ideal. PayPal or Venmo 
>>>
>>> Components: 
>>> Dia Compe canti brakes 
>>> Tiagra drop bar brake levers 
>>> Nitto stem 
>>> Nitto Noodle handlebar - 44 cm 
>>> Riv Silver bar-end shifters 
>>> Shimano Ultegra headset 
>>> Suntour XC-Pro crank triple: 46-36-24 
>>> 12-34 SRAM 9-speed cassette 
>>> Dura Ace front derailleur 
>>> Deore rear derailleur 
>>> MKS sneaker pedals 
>>> Thomson seatpost 
>>> Seller San Marcos saddle 
>>> Panaracer Pasela 700x37 tires 
>>> Rear wheel is Lesnik-built: Alex DM18 with LX hub, 36 spokes 
>>> Front wheel is not a Lesnik: Sun CR-18 rim and a hub labeled “Shimano”, 
>>> 36 spokes 
>>>
>>> If interested, email me at: 
>>> jimmac...@gmail.com 
>>>
>>> Thank you, 
>>> Jim Warren, long-time Forum member 
>>>
>>> Photos, and I have more: 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] From One Curious Photo . . . .

[Dan Bluestein]

Don't know about a printed copy of the Nat Geo issue, but scans of its two 
bicycling articles are online via this blog post:
https://blog.centurycycles.com/2013/11/a-look-back-at-bicyclings-past-with.html

Here's the Hemistour article:
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/118126270394701041949/album/AF1QipPLNY8TBUEF6HlYe-Rf1YTr6q2V6hbst6iqq9Q?feat=directlink

and here's the "Bicycles Are Back and Booming" article:
https://get.google.com/albumarchive/118126270394701041949/album/AF1QipPzC5izDN8D4hH2dytpnIXZljAOb0_PCIOS1sg?feat=directlink

- Dan

p.s. Hi everyone, I'm a new poster here, but have been lurking for a while 
as a Riv-curious former Bridgestone rider.

On Monday, December 27, 2021 at 3:45:08 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> Well, this is cool! Now, is someone other than me on the lookout for a 
> copy of the May 1973 Nat Geo article which features '26 pages about 
> bicycling'? That'd be a fun timepiece to see! 
>
> Thanks Garth!
>
> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 1:51:14 AM UTC+9 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I mean "multiple cogs" of course.
>>
>>
>> adding a freewheel to a Sturmey Archer hub
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Sam! Advice/recommendations?

[Dan Sullivan]

Another thumbs up for the Gravel King 38 slicks.  Have a pair on my 
canti-Rom and they are really fast and comfy smooth at 35-40 psi, 
super-great tires.  I've not ridden any RH tires and they may be even 
better but these are so nice I have no desire to spend the money to find 
out.

Dan in MSN

On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 7:00:27 PM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> No worries at all! 
>
> If anyone can find the tutorial on grinding down the tab on the Shimano 
> bar end pod, I'm struggling to find it on Riv's website. I thought it was 
> on one of the pages for the shifters themselves, but not seeing them there 
> or on the Shimano Dura-Ace page. 
>
> Ben
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 6:05 PM Paul Richardson  
> wrote:
>
>> whoa, no, i totally lied.  i'm sorry.  i pulled up my old invoice and it 
>> looks like back in the day they sold a kit that included the shifters and 
>> the pods, which is what i used.
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-11-05 at 7.01.23 PM.png]
>>
>> sorry to mislead you; shoulda kept my mouth shut!  guess my memory isn't 
>> as good as i thought!  and man where did i put those shimano pods...?!
>>
>> paul
>> takoma park, md.
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[RBW] Riv BB memories

[Dan McNamara]

Making room in my daughter’s bookshelf for incoming 4th grade type books and 
came across this in a copy of “Little Bear’s Friend”. 

I do miss that kind of interaction with Grant. Went to knot tying classes, took 
my daughter to book readings, flipped Dylan records over on the turntable. And 
tested out a few hatchets. 

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[RBW] Re: Roadini Tires: Anyone running 38s?

[Dan Sullivan]

Not on a Roadini, but I can squeeze 38 gravel king slicks in my canti-Rom 
and those tires are amazing.  Never ridden anything so fast and smooth.  I 
go about 50-55 psi on mine, and weigh in the mid-220s, and they feel 
perfect.

If you can fit 38s go for it.

Dan in MSN

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:14:05 PM UTC-5 Kushan wrote:

> I am running 38 x 700c Gravelking Slick 
> <https://www.panaracerusa.com/collections/gravel/products/gravelking-slick-folding-gravel-tires>.
>  
> It clears the brakes and fork pretty well. Although clearing through the 
> brake calipers requires getting the air out - this is only a concern when 
> you're getting your wheels in or out. 
>
> Previously I tried 32 mm Continental Slicks and 35 mm Gravelking SS 
> <https://www.panaracerusa.com/collections/gravel/products/gravelking-ss-folding-gravel-tires>.
>  
> 38mm feel noticeably more comfortable (I am guessing because I run 38mm at 
> 75psi while used to run 32s at over 90 psi). I have heard others talk about 
> 38mm having poor handling on Roadini but I have not been able to tell the 
> difference or my riding style (10-12 mph on paved roads unless descending) 
> has not put me in a situation where I can notice the difference.
>
> Not sure if you're looking to run fenders, but there doesn't seem to be 
> enough clearance for them with 38 mm tires. 
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 6:45:23 PM UTC-7 robert.har...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks --
>>
>> OK, my Jack Brown's are on their last legs. Is anyone running 38s -- if 
>> so, any reflections? Any pics? 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> RGinDC
>>
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[RBW] Re: Repaints

[Dan Sullivan]

A friend of mine got his fatbike painted by a body shop and it is really 
nice.  I for one will never again ship a bike to a painter; last (and only) 
time I did that I sent my prized machine off and they destroyed the fork 
which was a key part of what made the bike special. They did replace the 
fork and it was OK but the bike was never really the same.  Still great but 
not the same.

On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 6:46:07 PM UTC-5 LBleriot wrote:

> I found some blistering on my protovelo Romulus and after getting quotes 
> from Coast and Waterford, I decided to have my local auto body shop respray 
> the frame.  It’s a single color with no panel on the head tube and no 
> decals.  For $75 I got a beautiful respray that matches the original color 
> on the fork perfectly.  It took a day and I avoided the hassle of shipping. 
>  Something to consider.  If it was my orange Ram, I might get on the Joe 
> Bell list and go through the effort. 
>
> On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 3:20:23 PM UTC-4 Buck Flagg wrote:
>
>> Hello, group! Help needed!
>>
>> I am getting to the point with my RivBike that I will soon be needing a 
>> repaint. My fifteen year-old Rambouillet is a four-season commuter with 
>> around 55K miles on it, 99% racked up on NYC streets and bike lanes. With 
>> all that, not to mention daily chaining to a bike rack, it would be 
>> impossible to maintain a frame in pristine condition but now my periodic 
>> inspections are starting to turn up evidence of corrosion causing wee 
>> blisters in the original paint in a few places.
>>
>> The Rivendell website page on repaints lists a couple of shops in CA and 
>> Waterford.
>>
>> Anyone here have any wisdom/experience/opinions on this subject they'd 
>> care to offer regarding these or any other paint shops? Ideally, I'd love 
>> to find someone with mad skilz in the greater NYC area who has experience 
>> with the Rivendell product and access to the Rivendell decals.
>>
>> Very grateful, in advance, for any help!
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTT: 63cm Canti-Rom for 60cm Hillborne (original green one)

[Dan Sullivan]

I should add, I am interested in just buying a first gen Hillborne f/f/hs 
if you have one you’re willing to part with and don’t want my Rom.  Thanks, 
Dan 

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 3:10:57 PM UTC-6 Dan Sullivan wrote:

> Not sure the moderator(s) will let this through; most of my infrequent 
> posts are on the iBOB list. But if they do here's the deal: I am tall with 
> pretty short legs (I broke Trek's "what size frame should I get" app when I 
> entered my dimensions) and I've always wanted a bike in the 60-62 seat tube 
> range with a longer-than-60-cm top tube, which seems to be the limit for 
> nearly all production frames.  One of the exceptions was the first 
> Hillborne run, which had a 61cm effective TT.  I had a line on one last 
> year that never panned out, meantime I got the Rom, which is a great bike 
> and I will ride it happily but I'm using a long-setback post and a 
> ridiculously long stem and it still feels a little short for me (it has a 
> 59.5 TT).
>
> So if you have a green Hillborne from the first run and wanna trade for a 
> slightly sprightlier bike that is equally rare, let's talk.
>
> Dan, where the snow is almost gone in southern WI  
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[RBW] WTT: 63cm Canti-Rom for 60cm Hillborne (original green one)

[Dan Sullivan]

Not sure the moderator(s) will let this through; most of my infrequent 
posts are on the iBOB list. But if they do here's the deal: I am tall with 
pretty short legs (I broke Trek's "what size frame should I get" app when I 
entered my dimensions) and I've always wanted a bike in the 60-62 seat tube 
range with a longer-than-60-cm top tube, which seems to be the limit for 
nearly all production frames.  One of the exceptions was the first 
Hillborne run, which had a 61cm effective TT.  I had a line on one last 
year that never panned out, meantime I got the Rom, which is a great bike 
and I will ride it happily but I'm using a long-setback post and a 
ridiculously long stem and it still feels a little short for me (it has a 
59.5 TT).

So if you have a green Hillborne from the first run and wanna trade for a 
slightly sprightlier bike that is equally rare, let's talk.

Dan, where the snow is almost gone in southern WI  

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Appaloosa 60cm pics with big tires, thoughts on upright riding position

[Dan Sullivan]

The grilver color never looked that good to me but that Clem H looks 
GREAT.  Makes me want one!

Dan S
Snowy Southern WI

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 11:21:07 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:

> Here is my 62 Appaloosa with 50mm Cazarderos on Cliffhangers (measure a 
> true 50mm). I fit a 2.1" Thunderburt in the rear but the 2.25" was too 
> close for comfort. The 2.25" fit fine in the fork but it needed to be 
> deflated a bit (annoying). Not sure if that has changed with more recent 
> models. I am never uncomfortable on this bike; I did not build it as an in 
> the hoods faster pace bike so I can't really comment on that.
> [image: DSC00759.jpg]
>
> And here is my 59 Clem H with 2.25" Thunderburts on Cliffhangers. Plenty 
> of room. Will probably try 2.5" tires next. This bike is a good fit and 
> also very comfortable.
> [image: DSC00324.jpg]
>
> Bones
> On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 2:53:17 AM UTC-5 brizbarn wrote:
>
>> Looking for some photos of a Joe Appaloosa size 60 or 58 with big tires, 
>> 29x2.25ish.  New to group, hopeful Riv owner. Thinking of getting an orange 
>> Joe when the next batch comes out.  Most pics on the www are of smaller 
>> frames, and I'd love to see what the proportions look like on a big frame. 
>>  Also wonder if the upright riding position that Riv is known for gets 
>> uncomfortable or hinders hard pedaling.  I'm used to getting in the hoods 
>> to get a faster pace going. Currently ride a Surly Traveler Check with 
>> drops, a Panasonic MC4500 vintage mtb, and a FBM bmx.  Feel free to drop 
>> any insights on the Appaloosa worth knowing before dropping a pretty penny 
>> on one.  Thanks.  
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Nitto Big Back Rack - LARGE

[Dan McNamara]

I’ll second the Acorn Medium Saddlebag. Holds an amazing amount. Side pockets 
are great for small items (phone etc) that you need to grab in a hurry. I have 
never had a thigh rub issue. I have 3 of them. 

The only issue with Acorn is the wait for stock. This bag seems to sell more 
slowly than others that Acorn makes so it is fairly easy to buy one when they 
have a batch of bags to sell. 

Leah - I could loan you one for a test fit if you are interested. Just let me 
know. 

Dan

San Rafael CA

> On Dec 1, 2020, at 7:31 AM, Brian Campbell  wrote:
> 
> I have used one of these bags on my AHH for years. It will allow you to 
> carry what you need for a long day ride and a couple of straps on the outside 
> through the D-rings allow for bulky clothing to be attached. 
> 
> https://www.acornbags.com/collections/rear-bags/products/medium-saddlebag?variant=1113866272
> 
> You would easily be saving yourself a couple of pounds by not having the 
> large rack. 
> 
>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 7:25:36 AM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>> Leah,
>> Have you considered a saddlebag with a quick release?
>> Nitto makes a very nice one and the part that stays attached to your saddle 
>> doesn’t weigh much.
>> 
>> Ray
>> 
>>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 5:14:55 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>> Bagboy up front is great, I have Rosco A set up like that with lowriders 
>>> when I need to haul stuff. Rosco B has as light of a fully integrated 
>>> basket/rack as I've yet to make. Probably do a basket on Rosco A soon 
>>> (exposing it's lovely headbadge like sibling B's)
>>> Ditching all rear weight is nice when you want to hammer out of the pedals 
>>> on a slim waisted mixte frame, not that that's something to aspire to, but 
>>> I've got a seemingly rational fear of creating flex in and around my bottom 
>>> brackets, and I'm fortunate that the Rosco Bigs have a burly fork (75 lbs 
>>> in lowriders over the bridge? Totally!!) 
>>> Made this rear rack for my light awhile back-
>>> 
>>> this way I'm not tempted to load it up :)
>>> -Kai
>>> 
>>>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 4:27:01 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>> It would be a smaller bag in this scenario and no, they don't interfere 
>>>> with v-brakes. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 1:23:39 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>> One more possible problem with a large saddlebag and no rack: the bag 
>>>>> when full can press against the rear brake cable and prevent strong 
>>>>> braking. I think Leah has V brakes instead of cantilevers, and perhaps V 
>>>>> brakes aren't so affected -- I've not used Vs for a decade -- but the 
>>>>> medium Saddlesack, temporarily substituting for rack and panniers on the 
>>>>> new Matthews road bike, really does interfere with the action of the rear 
>>>>> cantilever. Fortunately, I have one of those Nitto wire standoff things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think Rivendell-design saddlebags do this worse than Carradice-design 
>>>>> saddlebags.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thigh rub doesn't bother me -- I find it comforting -- but it is a real 
>>>>> thing.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:15 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>>>> Of course it's sold out! 臘
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Another issue with rackless is I don't think you've ever ridden a 
>>>>>> saddlebag that way, the rubbing on the back of the legs bothers some 
>>>>>> people (I'm one of those people). Your results may vary and whatnot. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 12:57:14 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>>> Joe, I agree. Amd they’re sold out at Rivendell!!! 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2020, at 12:49 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm #TeamLightness, too, and I like the idea of a rackless saddlebag. 
>>>>>>>> If it's not too big empty and clears the fender, you can load it up 
>>>>>>>> and have it rest on said fender without pushing down too hard on it. A 
>>>>>>>> grid-gray Bag Boy to match your Banana Bag should work. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Chambray shirt deal alert

[Dan McNamara]

I have a few Edgevale shirts and pants and have found the fit to be loose but 
not baggy. Hopefully this batch holds to that. 

My Riv fit comment was based on the old RBW shirts  - I would be a medium in 
those. As I have a couple of shirts on the way I hope that fit will hold up on 
these. If they run big that is much better than running small. 

Admittedly I did not check the size chart. 

Dan

San Rafael, CA

> On Nov 19, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
>  wrote:
> 
> Be aware that at least on my browser, the itty bitty ruler icon that David 
> talked about goes away once you start clicking on the other sizes. If that 
> happens, just reload the page and don't touch the size icons. I'm using 
> Safari (not exactly a rare browser at 13% or so market share) so I think it's 
> just shoddy configuration on their part.
> 
> To loop back to my question, I measured a few shirts and they're all around 
> 20" wide, buttoned, and that's equivalent to about 40" circumference/chest. I 
> don't think I'm a particularly small fella (5'10"/160), so that's why I asked 
> for a confirmation from those who actually have these shirts, especially as 
> they are "Final Sale".
> 
>> On Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 9:39:20 AM UTC-8 Hetchins52 wrote:
>> Paul — There’s an itty, bitty graphic image of a ruler that links to the 
>> sizing chart for each shirt. The chambray “Small” is about ¾” larger than 
>> the other small shirts. Perhaps because it shrinks in laundering and the 
>> others are pre-shrunk fabric?
>> I ordered a Small Railroad short sleeve. Ships from Texas.
>> 
>> David Lipsky in Berkeley, CA
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 8:51:23 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>> Hey Benz,
>>> Can you link to where you found those measurements? I'm almost always 
>>> between sizes, but I can find them on their site or on Google.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the tip Dan. These look like great shirts, just in time for new 
>>> shirt season!
>>> 
>>> Paul in AR
>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 9:43:52 AM UTC-6 Benz Ouyang, 
>>>> Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>>>> Hey Dan, is the sizing correct? Their small has a chest size of 42.25", 
>>>> which is 21" pit-to-pit and definitely a little large for a small. Is that 
>>>> the "Riv fit" you're talking about?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 7:48:26 AM UTC-8 danmc wrote:
>>>>> Edgevale has their chambray shirt from last year on close out for $34. I 
>>>>> have been really happy with this shirt. The fabric is not pre-shrunk but 
>>>>> a good wash and dry gets it to a perfect Riv fit - not fitted with room 
>>>>> to move. At $89 they were a good deal. At $34 it is a crazy good deal. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://edgevaleusa.com/collections/sale/products/elwell-chambray
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sewn in the US from Japanese fabric. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> 
>>>>> San Rafael CA
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[RBW] Chambray shirt deal alert

[Dan McNamara]

Edgevale has their chambray shirt from last year on close out for $34. I have 
been really happy with this shirt. The fabric is not pre-shrunk but a good wash 
and dry gets it to a perfect Riv fit - not fitted with room to move. At $89 
they were a good deal. At $34 it is a crazy good deal. 

https://edgevaleusa.com/collections/sale/products/elwell-chambray

Sewn in the US from Japanese fabric. 

Enjoy!

Dan

San Rafael CA

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Re: [RBW] Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[Dan Sullivan]

When I build wheels (I've done maybe 4 or 5) I just lay the new wheel next 
to a built wheel and copy the spoke pattern.  I may have watched a video 
once; may have read something from Sheldon. Except for the one time when I 
threaded the spokes backwards (elbows out when they shoulda been in) I've 
never broken a spoke and they have stayed true. The time I broke one spoke 
I looked at the wheel and, oh duh, saw my mistake, turned the spokes around 
and it's been fine since.

I do have an ancient cast iron truing stand someone gave me and I use it 
but I've also just put the wheel in a frame and used the brake pads as 
guides -- leave the quick release (or straddle cable in the case of cantis) 
open until you get it pretty straight and then close them when it gets 
close to true. I don't claim to be a role model, but I have enjoyed 
building wheels.  One January at the Madison swap I scored a bunch of MA-2s 
and MA-40s, some new and some built on cheap hubs, and I have built several 
nice wheelsets as a result.  Still have a couple waiting to be put together 
when I need them.

Dan
sunny southern WI, with a chance of snow tonight

On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 10:29:39 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Do it. I've built exactly 1 wheel, to try it, and it served me well for a 
> few thousand miles. This was a 36-hole non-dished wheel for a fixed 
> drivetrain, and following Sheldon Brown's instructions it was surprisingly 
> easy without having to dish or give different tensions to R and L sides. I 
> took me slightly over an hour, IIRC, at any rate, less than 2 hours.
>
> I had no wheel building stand or any other wheel-specific tools except a 
> spoke wrench.
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:25 AM 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>> So with COVID and all, I've decided that now is the time to do stuff that 
>> I haven't ever done before.  Learning to speak French is perhaps a bridge 
>> too far - not so good at language.  But it seems reasonable to think that I 
>> can at least build a front wheel with a Dyno hub to put on the Sam I ride 
>> in the means streets of DC and on some gravel.  
>>
>> I have a truing stand but not a dishing tool.  I would say I am a 
>> competent wrencher.  Of course anyone who has built up a wheel did it once 
>> for the first time.  Is this something I should take on?  What are the odds 
>> for success?  Will I quit in frustration?
>>
>> Points of view encouraged.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: (2) Acorn bags-medium-original tan

[Dan McNamara]

Hi Joel,

I also own both the Sackville and the Acorn bag. The Acorn can expand quite a 
bit aft from the pics and has an inner closure to keep the contents from 
spilling out. The shape and the side pockets are what makes the Acorn work 
better, for me at least. Shape has no thigh rub.  Side pockets are perfect for 
phone, wallet, small tools what could be tough to dig out. 

But either is a good choice. 

Dan

San Rafael CA

> On Sep 16, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Joel Stern  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Benz.  Seems like the Sackville May hold more, I thought it would be 
> the opposite.  I am also considering this small Acorn.
> 
> Which of the 2 do you like better?
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Joel 
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 2:32 PM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
>>  wrote:
>> Joel, I'm not Mike, but I have both the Acorn and Sackville. They're about 
>> the same size in terms of capacity, but they are shaped differently.
>> 
>> Pics are worth more than words, so here are some pics:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Monday, September 14, 2020 at 7:32:11 PM UTC-7 Joel wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mike, just a question, are these much bigger, the look it, than the banana 
>>> bag?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Joel
>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:42:03 AM UTC-4, mike goldman wrote:
>>>> both bags look brand new. ive never used them and there really isnt any 
>>>> indication of use but i cant call them new
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> this is the original tan color not the newer ranger tan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (1 bag left pending payment)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> $75 shipped each 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> mike goldman
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> rhode island
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Drink 1 Cup Before Bed, Watch Your Body Fat Melt Like Crazy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> mayserve-magestor.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5cc994014d77e14013c66st04duc
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[RBW] FS: Soma San Marcos (54cm)

[Dan Godfrey]

Hey All, 

Selling this stallion. Lugged steel frame designed by Grant Petersen of 
Rivendell, produced by Soma. Thin(ish) Tange Prestige tubing, Rivendell 
lugs, beautiful blue paint, 650b model (v2.5). Awesome bike, selling 
because I've finally admitted that the fit isn't right for me. Currently 
built up as a fast rando with extralight tires, black nitto front rack, 
etc. Frame is in good condition, light cosmetic dings pictured in photos. 
This bike is fast, smooth, beautiful and versatile. Currently running 
Compass/Rene Herse 650b 38mm Loup Loup Pass Extralight tires, but 
previously mounted 42mm tires. 

Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/36BpArLnfYB4cM2G7 
Geometry/Info: https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/san-marcos-frame-set
 
Grant's Description of the V1: 
http://www.somafab.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/san-marcos-flyer2.pdf

Parts:
Full Ultegra (Brifters, long cage rear derailleur) 
*Dura Ace front derailleur 
Ultegra 11-32 cassette 
Ultegra Chain 
Thomson Elite Seatpost 
Nitto stem
Soma Highway One Handlebar, 44mm
Bontrager crankset
Tektro R559 Brakes
Ultegra Hubs
Velocity A23 rims, DT Swiss lightweight spokes
Compass/RH Loup Loup Pass 38mm Extralight tires
Nitto front rack (black)

$1400. Feel free to contact me with comments or questions. Bike comes 
without pedals or seat, but I can toss in a seat if necessary. Shipping 
possible, local sale possible. Let's talk. 

Dan in Seattle

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Re: [RBW] Sweepy bars, stem length, and climbing out of the saddle

[Dan Vee]

Hey.

Just to clarify.  The frame  does have a longer “reach” number also to be
used with a flat bar set up.  But yes I was saying that also.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 10:56 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> It's very easy to imagine, and anyway the point in question doesn't really
> involved long top tubes, it simply refers to reach. The OP said that when
> he installed the bar on a long stem he could climb standing comfortably
> holding the grips, but when seated the grips were too far away. When he
> installed a shorter stem, he felt comfortable seated but standing to climb
> and holding the grips felt "weird." I counseled that holding forward of the
> grips while standing might solve the problem, and gave instances. Not
> rocket science.
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 4:16 AM Garth  wrote:
>
>>
>> You can't image it *with the frame designs you've been riding *Patrick.
>> Of course you hate swept back bars on your bikes, of course you consider
>> that "sit up and beg". The frame reach is too darn short of reach for those
>> bars. That square pegs don't fit into a round holes is obvious, they simply
>> don't match.
>>
>>
>> A frame with a much longer reach is where they function best, and even
>> then, the design of the frame's handling will effect how those bars feel in
>> all riding conditions. I have 2 distinctly different handling bikes, the
>> Bombadil and a Franklin custom(sport/touring), both with long reaches, tall
>> stack heights, 13cm stems and 56cm Alba bars set up the same way. I mostly
>> ride at say a 45-65 degree angle. With drop bars on the Franklin it was
>> much less than that.
>>
>> The Bomba up/down hill can feel like turning a wheelbarrow,  there is
>> definite resistance to steering inputs wherever my hands are on the bar
>> fore-aft while the Franklin feels completely neutral
>> everywhere-all-the-time meaning the bike isn't offering much resistance to
>> steering inputs. It's free and easy, slow/fast/up/downhill, I find this
>> most intuitive. Same bar and stem, similar frame reach, two very different
>> experiences. I ride both all the time.  Different bikes for different
>> moods.
>>
>> I like Dave Moulton's depiction of a vertical pencil on a table. Turning
>> left and right is very easy. Now tilt it back some and try steering left
>> and right. The more tilt, the more resistant it feels to turning inputs,
>> like a wheelbarrow.
>>
>>
>> The Bomba up until the last Clem/Hillybike designs, had the the longest
>> reach of any Riv design per given frame size. It was the only Riv frame
>> that would work for me with swept back bars because I know how much frame
>> reach I prefer. I can see why people say they disliked the Alba, or swept
>> bars in general. On a frame with not enough reach you can/may end up with
>> too much weight/pressure on your hands and feel too upright, especially
>> when you limit yourself to the bar ends. Add that with the design of the
>> steering and a customers intangible expectations,  and you have all sorts
>> of opinions expressed.
>>
>> So having swept back bars with plenty of reach is a totally different
>> experience from "sit up and beg". Yeah ... you're begging for a better
>> fitting bike... more frame reach please !   I remember riding English
>> 3-speeds back in the day, gawd was that awful. Wy too short of reach ,
>> straight up riding and your knees almost hitting the bars. Quite unstable.
>> How anyone put up/puts up with that is beyond me ! Ahahahahahaa 
>> To each their own.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Sweepy bars, stem length, and climbing out of the saddle

[Dan Vee]

Thanks for the responses guys.

I agree that the longer reach measurement (relative to the bb) Defintely
helps, which this bike does have.  I have ridden sweepier bars on bikes
designed around drops and always felt weird to me.  Trail on this bike is
around 65-69mm depending on tire size.   I suppose it does differ a little
from a riv in chainstay length at 423mm with the sliding drop outs slammed
forward but does have a 20mm to play with (423-443).  I’d assume that this
could alter handling slightly too weight distribution wise.

On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 8:26 PM Paul Clifton  wrote:

> I disagree with Patrick, and without having read the articles, I think I
> agree with Garth. It really depends on the frame. Swept back bars work
> better on some frames than others. A long top tube is helpful. I climb
> stand with Albatross and Bosco bars with my body up in between the grips
> without sliding my hands forward very much. A longer top tube makes that
> position, relative to the pedals, more similar to a bike with drop or
> straight bars, where the grips are more in line with or in front of the
> head tube. Bar width also matters some.
>
> Paul in NW Arkansas
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

[Dan Vee]

Hey

Wow I’m using a Phil fixed/fixed track hub and didn’t even think of that until 
you said it! Totally forgot that that happens when you fully remove the bolts! 

-Dan

New jers

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

[Dan Vee]

This is good Information.  Thanks.  I will be getting a custom 650b fixed gear 
soon and have been contemplating fenders... but between the rear wheel flipping 
for gear Changes and the general style of riding I do, I feel like the 
simplicity of the bike kinda gets lost somewhere.  I think I’ll just get wet. 
:-).  Thanks for posting your experience update.

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Re: [RBW] Re: CL outting: Bombadil

[Dan McNamara]

Joe! The 52 Bomba is an awesome bike. I ran mine with Bosco bars. Had the Bosco 
Bullmoose originally then switched to standard Bosco. Hope you enjoy it. 

Dan

San Rafael CA

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> "That comment gives me bad flashbacks from home. Lol."
> 
> Kim, that comment gave me weird flashbacks to when I was married! 
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Interesting flat bar brake levers

[Dan McNamara]

Hi John. I believe I have a set of those levers originally purchased to go with 
a build that is now going to use v-brakes. I’ll dig them out and PM you. 

Dan



> On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:52 AM, John H.  wrote:
> 
> Hey bunch -- My search for the trustworthy silver Shimano BL-550 levers that 
> Riv used to sell (and Shimano discontinued) has turned up nothing. I'm new to 
> the flat bar brake lever domain, but if you've got something cool or 
> interesting kicking around your parts bin that would work with cantilever 
> brakes give me a shout and I'll be happy to take them off your hands.
> 
> 
> -John
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Re: [RBW] Re: Not even a fistfull of seatpost!

[Dan Vee]

Awesome stories 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

[Dan Vee]

I have a berthoud Aspin and a b17. I find so far that the Aspin is more 
comfortable a little less upright and the b17 is more comfortable if your 
upright.  

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Re: [RBW] Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

[Dan McNamara]

Hi Joel,

I have both Brooks and Berthoud saddles and prefer the Berthoud for a leather 
saddle. It does appear the Boulder Bikes has a couple of black Mente in stock. 

Another option to look at is Rivet. Their saddles are nice as well and they 
have a “try before you buy” program. 

Dan

San Rafael CA

> On Jul 12, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Joel Stern  wrote:
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> I’ve ridden Brooks forever, I had decided to try narrower than my B68 as Oi 
> rubs my inner thigh and is annoying. So I started reading on my old trusty 
> B17.  Wow, so many models and opinions, now some discontinued.  Then I 
> stumbled onto a few (many) comments and threads on Berthoud saddles. Looking 
> at their page I see the Mente is closest in size to the B17, the rest are 
> narrower.  But they seem to not be available unless from an eBay sellers who 
> sell at a very high price.  I ride upright, not 90 degrees but closer than 
> not.  I did read some comments on the durability of the leather which may 
> have been caused by putting Proofide  on it.  Just wondering if any members 
> who ride upright have used the saddle and how they like it.   Not sure if 
> this helps but my sitbones seem to ne a out 90mm apart, +20=110mm.  
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[RBW] Organized Rides 2020

[Dan Vee]

Hey ! Also in jersey was wondering where I could get some info on those 
rides If you know? Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Rene Herse Tires with tubes

[Dan Vee]

Yep that is true. Same tread rubber less sidewall

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[RBW] Re: Gus is a sit-up guy and his neck flows like a swan now

[Dan Vee]

Ahh just checked out your blog story makes me want one of those Bikes

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[RBW] Re: Center pull/Herse Brake Help

[Dan Vee]

Don’t know much about the squeal but was wondering how anyone who has these 
brakes likes them?

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB quickbeam or simple one

[Dan McNamara]

When I was considering an SO (before I blew up my knee) Keven was recommending 
a 58. After I came back from the test ride on the 58 and Keven was making a 
coffee, Mark walked over to me and said “you should be on a 56.” They did not 
have a 56 for demo that day and then the single speed became impractical for 
me. 

My PBH is 84 and I am 5’ 9.5”. 

The bar and stem choice will probably make the difference. Although a little 
crotch clearance is nice in any case. 


Dan
San Rafael CA



> On May 29, 2020, at 11:31 AM, greenteadrinkers  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a 56 SO. Maybe consider the height of the tires you plan to use, 
> currently I have 43 Compass Hurricane Ridge, fairly tall. I'm like 5'11" give 
> or take, 84 pbh, I think a 58 would be too large for me, the 56 fits well, I 
> guess a 58 could work, bit, it's nice having stand over space between my 
> crotch and the top tube.
> 
> Scott
> 
>> On Friday, May 29, 2020 at 9:46:46 AM UTC-4, Andrew Huston wrote:
>> Likely a long shot. Probably a 54 or 56. 5’10 and 84 PBH.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Dan McNamara]

That could be a good option. It brings back memories of Mr Rogers’ Neighborhood 
wherein the doctor in the neighborhood of make believe named Dr Bill, who was a 
platypus, had a daughter named Ornithorhynchus Anatinus. For that reason I have 
known the latin name for the platypus. 

Surprisingly it has come in useful more than once. 

Dan



> On May 16, 2020, at 2:02 PM, The Snag  wrote:
> 
> 
> Has no one bothered to look up the Latin name of the platypus? Anatinus is 
> the species. I think it sounds quite regal, as people have requested. Beyond 
> that it is a scientific name, scientific names are used by people worldwide 
> to communicate effectively. Good start, we're getting cross-cultural. 
> 
> Then we go back to gender-neutral first names. My first though was Dylan, not 
> only a much beloved name in Rivendell but also it's meaning has water-based 
> roots. But maybe it doesn't flow too well with Anatinus. What does sound good 
> it Tony, or Toni, or my favorite spelling, Tonee.  I have no skin in the game 
> because my step-thru is a giant Rosco Mtn. mixte, but I think that Tonee 
> Anatinus would be a bitchin name for a bike. 
> 
> Haakon
> Tillamook, OR
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Re: [RBW] PSA: 3 Rivendells for sale on CL

[Dan McNamara]

I have a couple of friends in Bend who may be able to help. Let me know if you 
need someone on the ground. 

Dan

San Rafael CA

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 2:40 PM, J L  wrote:
> 
> I like your enthusiasm Joe!!
> 
> Bend is a beautiful place, party because it is 6 hours away from anywhere 
> else. 
> 
> I’ll see what the seller says on the phone. 
> 
> Jason
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh man, I saw it. Check RC Nute for help, or John Bennett. Or maybe you'll 
>> get lucky and the seller will ship. That's a rare beast in that condition, 
>> sheesh! 
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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

[Dan McNamara]

That bike just looks fast, Bill.

Dan

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> 
> A few things came together and prompted me to build up a tubular wheelset for 
> my Roadeo.  The rims are vintage MAVIC GL330s, and the tires are super sweet 
> Veloflex Vlaanderen which measure a true 27mm.  Now my Roadeo tips the scales 
> at a legit <20 lbs.  I am keeping my clincher wheelset as well, but DANG, 
> this bike is fast with supple tubulars.  
> 
> Photo proves I rode The Three Bears on tubulars for the first time in 20 
> years.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/49815410327
> 
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> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Semi-OT: chambray

[Dan McNamara]

Here is another option for a chambray shirt that just came back into stock and 
is a good price. 

https://edgevaleusa.com/products/elwell-chambray

I have one from a few years ago and it is a great shirt - just bought a backup. 
I also like their pants for everyday wear or doing heavy work around the house. 

Glad that there are options out there. 

Dan

San Rafael, CA

> On Apr 7, 2020, at 9:38 PM, Clayton Scott  wrote:
> 
> Taylor stitch may have something too. Tellason may as well.
> 
> Clayton Scott
> HBG, CA
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Re: [RBW] Another Clem fender conundrum

[Dan McNamara]

Hi Jim,

I have used a wine cork with a long bolt to address this. There is also this 
item from Velo-Orange that might help: 

https://velo-orange.com/products/spring-thing?_pos=1&_sid=3accc6dce&_ss=r

You could probably put something similar together with a trip to the hardware 
store. 

Good luck!

Dan

San Rafael, CA

> On Apr 13, 2020, at 9:46 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well after 3 years, I decided to finally put the fenders on that I had 
> purchased with the bike.  There was a drenching on a rather cold day (for 
> Texas in March) a few weeks back, and I can't have that road grime all over 
> me again.
> 
> Thoughts of, oh why oh why didn't I just pay the $40 or whatever it was to 
> have Rivendell put them on before shipping the bike? Come to mind at times 
> like these.
> 
> So anyway the front fender went pretty well but the back fender was a train 
> wreck/dumpster fire (pick one).  The fender line is a disaster.  There must 
> be at least three inches between the fender and the tire near the seat stay.  
> I put the bike in the stand and took the fender back off.
> 
> I need a long bolt and something like a wine cork to create some shim space 
> there.  I have seen these done before on other bikes
> 
> Does anyone have suggestions?  I would prefer to order the bolt online.  I 
> have lots of wine corks and other assorted washers lying around.
> 
> Pics at https://photos.app.goo.gl/LTC6BnG1T9WXK2jXA of the front and rear.
> 
> Jim
> Leander, TX
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Semi-OT: chambray

[Dan McNamara]

I’ll throw Gustin into the mix. I have a couple of their workshirts and they 
are pretty nice. And a chambray shirt which is more dress shirt than work 
shirt. The business model is a little RBW-like as they don’t start a run unless 
they have the run funded enough to cover costs. All the clothes are MUSA 
(primarily SF.)

The jeans are also an awesome deal for the price, quality and MUSA-ness. 

Sizing is a bit of an issue as they tend to run slim. 

Dan

Marin, CA




>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Brad  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking about Gibson and Pattern Recognition when I was writing about 
> repro workwear. Buzz Rickson is right in line with the other brands I 
> mentioned. 
> 
> Brad
> Queens
> 
>> On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 4:56:41 PM UTC-4, Jay Lonner wrote:
>> The Epaulet stuff looks really nice, maybe too nice for stuffing into a 
>> saddlebag and general bike-y use. The reproduction workwear is more what I 
>> had in mind. I’ll check out those links for sure, but in the meantime ended 
>> up placing an order for a Buzz Rickson chambray shirt because a) it seems 
>> like a good shirt for my purposes, and b) that brand has been on the fringes 
>> of my consciousness ever since reading “Pattern Recognition” by William 
>> Gibson when it first came out. I’m a little concerned about the sizing since 
>> I’m probably a few standard deviations taller than their domestic Japanese 
>> market, but I just ordered the biggest one they make and we’ll see how it 
>> turns out. Agreed that the MUSA stuff is a relative bargain, so I’ll just 
>> have to stock up if/when they ever do another run. 
>> 
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>> 
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Brad  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are a handful of small companies out there making reproduction 
>>> vintage workwear. 
>>> 
>>> Check out:  Left Field, Post Overalls, Engineered Garments, etc. (There's 
>>> also Iron Heart, which is made in Japan.)l
>>> 
>>> They manufacture domestically and use high-quality materials. And they're 
>>> expensive enough that they make you realize what a good deal Riv's MUSA 
>>> gear is. I'm far from an expert on this, but it's my understanding that a 
>>> lot of these companies make clothes for the Japanese market. There's a 
>>> strong demand there for vintage US workwear. 
>>> 
>>> One of the companies (I think it's Post Overalls) is owned by a Japanese 
>>> man who studied fashion production management in the States. His clothes 
>>> are made with old machines from defunct factories in the US because 
>>> collectors can tell the difference in the stitches made with new machines 
>>> and old machines. You can really go down the rabbit hole with this stuff!
>>> 
>>> Brad
>>> Queens
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 1:54:11 PM UTC-4, Jay Lonner wrote:
>>>> I just pulled my trusty MUSA blue chambray shirt out of the wash and it is 
>>>> on its last legs, so to speak - significant fraying at the cuffs and 
>>>> collar, worn elbows, missing buttons. I happened to get Grant on the phone 
>>>> yesterday during a call to HQ on an unrelated matter, and when I pivoted 
>>>> to this topic he indicated that new ones aren't in the pipeline. Any 
>>>> suggestions on where to source a replacement that checks many/most of the 
>>>> boxes of the original? There are commodity-grade options available from 
>>>> the usual suspects (Carhartt, Duluth Trading, etc.) but I really love the 
>>>> synergy of that supple Japanese chambray while supporting living wage 
>>>> domestic craftspeople.
>>>> 
>>>> Alternatively, does anyone have the genuine article for sale in size XL?
>>>> 
>>>> Jay Lonner
>>>> Bellingham, WA
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[RBW] MUSA Pants

[Dan Kretzer]

What can you tell me about the fit of the current MUSA long pants now back 
in stock? (the tapered ones)

Always find buying clothes online risky. Most Riv stuff is cut generously 
but I'm probably at the upper end of the XL.
(235 Lbs 36-38 waist depending on cut, 6'3")

-Dan

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[RBW] Re: Paint curing and seat post bolting

[Dan Kretzer]

Kevin,
The paint will be softer during the curing process and will slowly harden. 
You could start building anytime but could risk surface damage if you're 
not very careful.

Stay away from HD! Go to your LBS for the binder bolt. (or call the 
painters and ask them to send it)
-Dan

On Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 7:32:56 PM UTC-5, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>
> Greetings.
> Just got my All-Rounder frame back from the painters at Waterford.  
> Reading the included instructions, they seem to recommend that I allow the 
> frame paint to "cure" for a couple of weeks without explaining exactly what 
> curing is.  Can anyone enlighten me?
> Also, the frame was returned without a seat post binder bolt.  Before I 
> make multiple trips to Home Depot for the correct one, can someone tell me 
> what they've used?  If memory serves, it's an M5 of some kind, but I can't 
> recall exactly which.
> Many thanks,
> Kevin Lindsey
> Alexandria, VA
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[RBW] Re: Thinking about cycling for me in the future....

[Dan Kretzer]

PG
I've had the same thoughts during the last few years. (will be 72 in April) 
I was living in a high density area and although my past involvement in 
motorcycles taught me to anticipate the worst, I was getting less and less 
comfortable riding on the roads. 

I retired last summer and part of the decision to move was to live in a 
more bike friendly environment.
We now live within a mile and a half of a network of Rail Trails. The area 
is also very bicycle friendly with clearly marked bike lanes in a town that 
has mandatory traffic stops for pedestrians.
I couldn't imagine life without some kind of outdoor exercise. 

Where I used to live it was difficult finding safe routes but not 
impossible. As others have said seek out the better roads. If you don't 
live near paved trails perhaps there are some close enough to drive to and 
bike from there?

Read up on bicycle safety. Use a rear view mirror and lights, know your 
place in the lane, take "box turns", etc. It's not like it was when we were 
growing up. Try to make sure drivers see you and anticipate that they 
won't. 

Riding smart keeps it fun and enjoyable.
-Dan 

On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 7:34:28 PM UTC-5, PG wrote:
>
> I'm turning 67 in a week, and haven't ridden in a couple of months. The 
> last time out, a woman blew a stop sign at an intersection -- presumably 
> while texting, base on her body language -- and if I'd been 100 feet closer 
> to the intersection, I would have been creamed. I shook for a couple of 
> days afterwards, and haven't been motivated to go out since. As with most 
> of us, this isn't an isolated incident.
>
> My instinct is to quit riding. A couple things are behind that. Because of 
> my age, my reflexes, depth perception, and general eyesight are in decline. 
>
> I only ride on the road, as mountain and trail riding don't appeal to me. 
> I guess I could start spinning at home to keep my fitness level up. 
>
> I know the odds are that I will be fine, but even a minor accident would 
> take months to recover from. A major accident could result in permanent 
> damage.
>
> Am I overreacting? It's been several months and I've had no urge to ride 
> again.
>
>
> Paul
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Re: [RBW] FS: 52cm Sam Hillborne complete

[Dan McNamara]

Here is a link to the RBW geo chart with the 52 Sam. There were plenty of 
slight changes per order from the builder but this should be the basic idea. 

Let me know if you have troubles with the Google sheet and I’ll send a pdf. 

Dan

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gfiN1kOxVrthdc6eScUF9fP5n-BvRBILbBMYiEg5LM4

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> Not sure. I see there isn't a 52cm on the current geometry chart. Sizes jump 
> from 51 to 55.
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Re: [RBW] WTB A few items

[Dan McNamara]

Hi Andrew. Finally back together here. Last week was rough. 

I have the two Gravel Kings. Still on a bit of a hunt for the Mark’s Rack. I 
found the slightly used one but I am pretty sure I have an unused one which is 
what I wanted to sell. I’ll dig around a bit more the next day or two and see 
if I can locate it. It not I’ll probably have the used one available. 

Sorry this is taking so long. 

Dan

> On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Dan McNamara  wrote:
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> Hi Andrew. 
> 
> Sorry - been dealing with power outages and evacuations due to fire danger 
> here in NorCal. I will look for the rack tomorrow and let you know exactly 
> what I have. 
> 
> Dan
> 
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Re: [RBW] WTB A few items

[Dan McNamara]

Hi Andrew. 

Sorry - been dealing with power outages and evacuations due to fire danger here 
in NorCal. I will look for the rack tomorrow and let you know exactly what I 
have. 

Dan

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Re: [RBW] WTB A few items

[Dan McNamara]

I have a pair (actually may have 3) Panaracer Gravel King in 650B x 48. also 
have some Big Bens in 650B x 48 if those are of interest. Not sure if the are 
the raceguard version but will check. Schwalbe tires do run smaller than spec. 

Also might have a Marks rack but need to dig around for it. 

We are getting ready for a couple of days of power shutdown here in Marin but 
I’ll try to get some info out tomorrow. 

Dan

> On Oct 26, 2019, at 5:41 PM, Andrew Huston  
> wrote:
> 
> Anyone have any of the following?
> Nitto Bullmoose
> Nitto albatross bars
> Nitto R14
> Nitto Marks Rack
> 650b tires, 47 or larger (open to options)
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil

[Dan McNamara]

I sold a 52 Bomba with the clear coat treatment (complete with racks) in 2015 
for $1950. It was a good build (Rich built wheels etc) but no dyno and no bags. 

Dan

> On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> I’d ballpark the frame fork headset and bars at like $1600. To replicate the 
> build you buyer would need to budget around $4500 but most buyers prefer to 
> do their own thing. If you insist on selling it complete you’ll be in the 
> $2600 to $3000 range I suspect. 
> 
> If it were me I would sell bags and racks separately to maximize my return. 
> 
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca
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Re: [RBW] OT: non-bike hobbies

[Dan McNamara]

I have a few hobbies that ebb and flow depending on what else is going on. 

Rebuilding lever espresso machines. 
Mostly the smaller machines like La Pavoni, Olympia Cremina, Sama. Friends find 
machines at garage sales and I’ll fix them up and show them how to use them. 
Parts are readily available. Nice combination of wrenching, plumbing and 
electrical. Occasionally I’ll sell one to fund further endeavors. 

Playing guitar and ukulele. 
Working on this with my 8 year old daughter. A WIP on both our parts. 
 
Film photography.
I have been down the photography route before. Decided to leave the Nikon SLR 
alone this time and use a fixed lens rangefinder. Decent ones are fairly 
inexpensive - there have been lots of good recommendations on the list 
recently. Tuning up a older camera can be pretty satisfying. Replacing light 
seals or a stuck shutter is not too difficult but does require a clean space 
and concentration. Then you get to take pictures with it. 

Friends have tried to get me interested in other things - stamp or coin 
collecting, baseball cards, Frank Zappa records etc - but I have so far 
resisted. 


Dan






> On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:19 PM, dstein  wrote:
> 
> I feel like this has come up before but could only find a thread from 2010: 
> what are your non-bike hobbies? Particularly anyone with young kids that suck 
> up all your other time or involve them. I haven't been riding since an 
> accident earlier this year. My wife says I need a hobby. I don't disagree. 
> Bonus points if it's thrifty, because damn I've spent a lot of money at 
> Rivendell over the years.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Dan McNamara]

I used the Yepp seat rack mounted as we had to switch between two bikes. It
worked great on a Tubus. The Cheviot had the Ursus stand and it was the
most steady by far. I tried lots of stands (VO, Hebie, Pletcher, Lumintrail
etc) and the Ursus was the most steady for the precious cargo. I always
kept a firm grim on the bike when the cargo was on-board, of course.

I have quite the cache of stands if you want to try some out. Let me know
and we can figure something out. We have moved on to a cargo bike for most
travel until she is more steady by herself for long distances.

Dan



On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 10:32 PM Amit Singh  wrote:

> About to put a rear kid’s bike seat on mine.
>
> Do you suggest frame mounted or rack mounted?
>
> Also, what kind of kickstand is the most weight bearing and most stable to
> load / unload?
>
> There will be precious cargo aboard and I want to avoid any mishaps.
>
> Thanks in advance for your guidance!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wider flat bars

[Dan McNamara]

If you end up having the Nitto Kite as a contender I have one unused acquired 
from Blue Lug. Does not look like the intended build is going to happen. 

Let me know if you are interested. 

Dan

San Rafael, CA

> On Aug 18, 2019, at 2:16 PM, PaulS  wrote:
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> Thank you. I’d like probably something in between 20-30 deg sweep. Soma looks 
> nice but too much sweep.  I may look at the Blue lug bars or Wavie. 
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Re: [RBW] Association of Caffeinated Wheelers...I totally brain farted.

[Dan McNamara]

Thanks for posting this,  Brad. Appropriating the “haz” design is awesome. 

The ACW drip grate you did for the La Pavoni still makes me smile every 
morning. What size are the new mugs? 

Dan

> On Jul 26, 2019, at 1:15 PM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> So it was recently brought to my attention that I completely failed to 
> announce to the RBW any of the new ACW goodies that have been rolling through 
> the store.
> 
> This list was the main source of revival for the ACW some years ago, and I 
> feel silly I neglected to keep current. So much of the "social" interaction 
> moved to IG that I followed suit. Weird thing is I'm on the RBW and IBOB 
> lists everyday.
> 
> Anyway, there are some enamel mug goodie boxes, a couple different patches, 
> some new stickers and buttons...and a painting or two.
> 
> So for those coffeeoutside types, and caffeine crazed cycling friends, go 
> check it.
> 
> ACW STORE
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Re: [RBW] Pedal click driving me batty

[Dan McNamara]

I would definitely try the bearing service on the gripsters. I chased a click 
on my bike for quite a while and finally swapped in a set of RMX pedals I had 
stashed away for the grinpsters. Click gone. 

Reminds me to pick up a rebuild kit. 

Dan



> On Jul 9, 2019, at 4:33 PM, Will Rhea  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ian! I'll keep this in mind.
> 
> Looks like they have a Thin Gripster bearing / rebuild kit on the Riv site, 
> I'm going to go ahead and try that for now.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -br
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:08 PM Ian A  wrote:
>> If using a Shimano sealed bottom bracket with the plastic spacer, check the 
>> spacer is not cracked. A cracked spacer can cause a rhythmic click.
>> 
>> IanA
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Re: [RBW] FS: New Tools

[Dan McNamara]

If still available I’ll take one of the CP-1 cassette pliers. 

My shipping zip code is 94901. 

Thanks

Dan

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Keith Muller  wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I have a box of Park Tools that I'm looking to sell.  I got a big kit and 
> there were some parts I already had.  All items are new.  Most in the 
> packaging, some without.  Let me know what items you want.  You pay the 
> shipping.  DM me with any questions or offers.
> 
> Keith
> 
> Pic:  https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gtQXrdR1wsSX3Vfd33YEnSP98uwNlIDA
> 
> This is what I have:
> 
> Part# Description Retail  My Price
> AWS-1 Park Tool, AWS-1, 3-way hex wrench, 4mm, 5mm and 6mm$11.49  $6.00
> AWS-1 Park Tool, AWS-1, 3-way hex wrench, 4mm, 5mm and 6mm$11.49  $6.00
> AWS-15Park Tool, AWS-15, 3-way aluminum body hex wrench, 4mm, 5mm and 
> 6mm $31.95  $18.00
> BBT-69.2  Park Tool, BBT-69.2, Bottom Bracket Tool, 44mm  $25.95  $14.00
> BBT-9 Park Tool, BBT-9, Bottom bracket tool, External cups and crankarm 
> adjusting cap $22.95  $11.00
> BCB-4.2   Park Tool, BCB-4.2, Bike cleaning brush set $21.95  $12.00
> BO-2  Park Tool, BO-2, Bottle opener  $7.45   $4.00
> BO-4  Park Tool, BO-4, Corkscrew Bottle Opener$45.95  $27.00
> BT-2  Park Tool, BT-2, Fourth hand cable stretcher, With locking ratchet  
> $48.95  $27.00
> CC-2  Park Tool, CC-2, Chain wear indicator, Shows percentage of wear $27.95  
> $16.00
> CC-3.2Park Tool, CC-3.2, Chain wear indicator, Shows to either keep 
> or replace$10.95  $6.00
> CCP-22Park Tool, CCP-22, Crank puller, For square taper cranks
> $15.49  $8.00
> CCP-44Park Tool, CCP-44, Crank puller, For splined cranks $15.95  
> $9.00
> CCW-5 Park Tool, CCW-5, Crank bolt wrench: 14mm, 8mm  $11.95  $7.00
> CDG-2 Park Tool, CDG-2, Chainring diameter gauge  $34.95  $19.00
> CL-1  Park Tool, CL-1, Synthetic chain lube, 4 oz. (118 mL)   $8.95   $5.00
> CN-10 Park Tool, CN-10, Cable and housing cutter  $36.95  $20.00
> CN-10 Park Tool, CN-10, Cable and housing cutter  $36.95  $20.00
> CP-1  Park Tool, CP-1, Cassette pliers$50.95  $28.00
> CP-1  Park Tool, CP-1, Cassette pliers$50.95  $28.00
> CT-3.2Park Tool, CT-3.2, Chain Tool, Fits 3/32'', 3/16'' and 1/8'' 
> chains $36.95  $20.00
> DAG-2.2   Park Tool, DAG-2.2, Derailleur hanger alignment gauge   $79.95  
> $42.00
> DH-1  Park Tool, DH-1, Dummy hub  $19.95  $11.00
> DS-1  Park Tool, DS-1, Digital scale  $69.95  $39.00
> INF-2 Park Tool, INF-2 Tire inflator for air compressor   $134.95 $80.00
> MLP-1.2   Park Tool, MLP-1.2, Master link pliers  $15.95  $9.00
> PTD-5 Park Tool, PTD-5Preset torque driver, 5 Nm  $41.95  $24.00
> PTD-6 Park Tool, PTD-6Preset torque driver, 6 Nm  $41.95  $24.00
> PW-4  Park Tool, PW-4, Professional pedal wrench  $34.95  $19.00
> SA-3  Park Tool, SA-3, Deluxe shop apron  $24.95  $15.00
> SW-22.2   Park Tool, SW-22.2, Master, Spoke wrench, Red, 0.136''  $25.95  
> $15.00
> SZR-1 Park Tool, SZR-1, Shop scissors $9.95   $5.00
> TK-4T Park Tool, TK-4T, Tool Kaddie, Bench Mount  $59.95  $37.00
> TM-1  Park Tool, TM-1, Spoke tensiometer  $81.95  $44.00
> TS-TA Park Tool, TS-TA, Thru axle adaptors, For all Park Tool truing stands   
> $59.95  $34.00
> TSB-4 Park Tool, TSB-4, Truing Stand Base For TS-4$57.95  $32.00
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Re: [RBW] Re: utility biking shop in SF east bay?

[Dan McNamara]

The Recyclery in San Rafael (a bit of a haul, I know) tends to have a fair
number of used commuter type bikes at reasonable prices. I am going to be
stopping by this afternoon and will let you know if I spot anything decent.

You might try California Pedaler in Danville - they always have used bikes
as they have a good trade-in policy.

The IGH might be tough to find on a used bike beyond a 3-speed.

Dan


On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 9:38 AM Collin A  wrote:

> Ted,
>
> Its a bit more of a drive, but technically still in the east bay. Check
> out Luckyduck Bike Cafe in Oakland. Its a lovely little shop that has a
> bunch of used (nice) bikes for sale and they definitely cater to the
> commuting type, but the prices may be a bit steep. It's worth a call or a
> look though...
>
> http://www.luckyduckoakland.com/
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 8:05:21 AM UTC-7, ted wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>> I have a friend in the market for a new bike. She had an upright,  step
>> through, fendered, chain cased, one speed, "mama-san" bike she bought in
>> Tokyo.
>> She wants a "lighter" bike with some gears. I think she's going to want
>> 26" wide tires, fenders, step through frame, upright bars, and rear
>> derailur or or 5 or 7 speed igh,
>> Though I think she would be well served by a Clem L I'm not sure she will
>> go for that price point (I think her old bike cost a few hundred $$ new).
>> Can anybody suggest a bike shop or two in the SF east bay (friend is in
>> Fremont, I'm in Pleasanton) that serves urban/suburban commuter type riders?
>>
>> TIA
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Mieshas / RBW Cork grips

[Dan McNamara]

Hi Ant

Check Analog Cycles. They have the cut out version in stock. 


Dan

San Rafael CA

> On Mar 28, 2019, at 7:07 PM, ant ritchey  wrote:
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> Outta stock and I need a pair!
> 
> Looking for a set or two in good to excellent condition.
> 
> Either variation will work...lemme know if you've got some collecting dust 
> that you'd like to sell off.
> 
> Have plenty of random bits to trade, too!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: [RBW] Riv GrabSack - did they ever come in black?

[Dan McNamara]

Hey Joe Bunik - if the other Joe can’t help you I have an extra Flatsack in 
grey. 

Just let me know. 

Dan

> On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Joe Bunik  wrote:
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> Oh man, Joe -- if Philip doesn't want yer Flatsack, I'm in. And will
> apply the Gorilla Parts patch, promptly!
> =- Other Joe B
> 
>> On 10/20/18, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>> I have a grey Flatsack if you (or anyone) is interested, they appear to be
>> gone and never to be seen again at Riv. $25 shipped.
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Re: [RBW] Thank you Riv & My kid-hauler

[Dan McNamara]

I’ll get them out and shoot some pics for you over the weekend

. It is a different setup than the VO porter stand. I had the Ursus on my Bomba 
and it worked well. I would not jump curbs with it on a bike as it sits low. I

I have a few other as well 

the VO Copenhagen / Massload was ok. 

The Hebie Double was good but not as solid as the Ursus. 

Dan

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 6:37 PM, Justin, Oakland  wrote:
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> Dan-
> Does it go up narrower than the VO porteur model? That one interferes with my 
> chain. 
> 
> -J
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Re: [RBW] Thank you Riv & My kid-hauler

[Dan McNamara]

Hi Justin. I have quite a collection of dual legged kickstands gathered for 
bike-with-kid service. I’ll send you some info tomorrow. I am local-ish so you 
can check them out. Need to clean out the garage. 

The Ursus is the best I used. Super stable and wide footprint. Helps with 
wiggling kids whether front or rear. 

Dan
- Marin CA

> On Oct 13, 2018, at 4:29 PM, Drw  wrote:
> 
> I had the pletscher and I have one of the VO’s.
> I don’t think id be comfortable leaving a kid on the bike propped up by 
> either one. Pletscher felt more stable, but VO Gets points for adjustability 
> and not bending my kickstand plate off the frame. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 52 Clem L, possibly 55 Cheviot or canti-Sam

[Dan McNamara]

I have a 54.5 Rosco Bubbe “mountain Mixtec” that I may never build up. Let me 
know if that is of any interest and we can discuss

Currently F/F/HS/BB/SP and I do have a wheel set (Shimano Dyno) as well as 
chocolate norm handlebars. And the rest of the kit to build it out. 

Feel free to PM me to discuss. 

Dan

Marin, CA

> On Oct 10, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Adam Leibow  wrote:
> 
> oof brutal - sorry to hear that!
> 
>> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 2:35:03 PM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>> I'm looking for F/F/HS, complete, or anything in between. Shipping to 98052.
>> 
>> Slight preference for the Clem L since the price point makes goodies like 
>> dynamo lighting more accessible. Still, any of these three would be 
>> terrific, for slightly different reasons that I'd weight equally.
>> 
>> Thanks, all, for the great collective input on frame choices!
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Re: [RBW] WTB Brooks c19

[Dan McNamara]

I may have one - I’ll double check this weekend. Any preference for slotted or 
not?

Dan

Marin. CA

> On Oct 3, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Timothy Hurley  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>I’ve convinced myself that a c19 will solve all my problems. Does anyone 
> have one collecting dust that’d they’d like to sell? Any color is cool.
> 
> Thanks and happy riding,
> T.J.
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Paul Racer, front, silver

[Dan McNamara]

Hi Reid,

I have a front silver Paul Pacer with both nutted and recessed bolts. I don’t 
have a rear so it is probably a good time to make it part of a set. 

I’ll send a pic this evening via PM. 

Dan

> On Sep 30, 2018, at 11:11 PM, Reid Echols  wrote:
> 
> Got a great deal on one of these recently (rear), and looking for a front 
> brake to complete the set! I’d be open to a pair at the right price, of 
> course.
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[RBW] Re: Roadini - How do you like yours?

[dan boyle]

I have Joe A that I set up with racks, dyno lights, fenders and it is my 
commuter bike. Loved it from day one. I ride it 5 or 6 days a week.  I had 
a Trek Domane 2.0 that I used for weekend speedy rides. It felt a little 
small, and compared to my Joe A it was obviously not nearly as comfortable, 
but it was light and fast and I liked that part.  I was deciding between a 
road-build Sam or a Roadini. 

Will told me the Sam was pretty close to my Joe A,  and might not be 
"different" enough to feel like a different ride.  He was right.  My 
Roadini arrived several weeks ago. It is exactly what I wanted it to be, no 
extra stuff bolted on, just their recommended wheels and brifters with a 
3x10 setup  Light, comfortable and fast.  My Trek and Joe are 58's, My 
Roadini is a 61.  I ride it every chance I get.  I would get it again in a 
second...it is perfect.  The Trek is up for sale, never to be ridden 
again.  The Roadini is just too smooth, comfortable and fast (enough for 
me). 

On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 6:59:52 PM UTC-7, Jonathan K. wrote:
>
> I'm trying to convince myself that I do/don't need a Roadini. I have a Sam 
> that I bought to be my road bike, but it's been gradually taking on more of 
> a beast of burden role. Originally quite minimalist, I am now running racks 
> and bags fore and aft for commuting. So, I'd like to get a bike to fill the 
> role of lightweight, long distance, weekend rider.
>
> The Roadini has been out for a while now, and there seems to be a fair 
> amount of them out in the world. So, for anyone who has been riding their 
> Roadini for a while, how do you like it? I'm interested in thoughts, 
> impressions, reviews, comparisons to other road bikes, etc. Would you 
> recommend one over other bikes to someone who wants a simple road bike for 
> (relatively) fast long distance riding? Pictures are encouraged, of course!
>
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Re: [RBW] (Belated) New (to me) Bike Day: Rambouillet!

[Dan McNamara]

Congrats on both the baby and the Ram. I had one of the vintage and it is a 
great ride.

Dan

San Rafael, CA

> On Aug 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> 
> I'd recently been finding myself pining after the aesthetic of many 
> mid-2000's Rivendells, looking longingly at pictures the Quickbeam I used to 
> have but sold to another list member (hey, Wally!), when a 64cm Rambouillet 
> popped up on a nearby craigslist. It seemed like just the thing, with the 
> usual spot-on Rivendell build and some really nice finishing touches: 
> Dura-Ace hubs, hammered Honjos, Gilles Berthoud bag, titanium B.17.  I 
> decided to move on a few other projects and spring for this one.  Connecting 
> with the buyer and seeing the bike was one of those "it's meant to be" 
> moments: he literally lived across the street from my sister-in-law's 
> apartment, and when I hopped on to test ride, the saddle was already in the 
> perfect position for me--no adjustments needed.  
> 
> And that's kind of the point with this bike.  I usually like having projects, 
> building or re-building my bikes so they're a reflection of me.  But I have a 
> baby on the way any minute now, and probably will have less time and 
> attention for projects moving forward.  The Rambouillet is done up so nicely 
> I don't feel the need to change anything on it just yet.  I bought it 
> thinking I'd put drop bars on it, but the Albatross build is reminding me of 
> when I had my Quickbeam and Long Haul Trucker set up similarly and I'm really 
> enjoying it, at least on the short rides I've done so far.  The handling is 
> great with a few pounds in the Berthoud bag.  
> 
> Pictures here: 
> 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmqiuhka 
> 
> Being red-green colorblind, I'm usually not one to really notice paint jobs, 
> but this one is really nice!  There is something about the Rambouillets' 
> paint, maybe it's the pearl coat that they used, that gives it a real depth.  
> Ironically, the red-green colorblind guy has ended up with two green 
> Rivendells (my Clem is also green), but I'm really happy about it. Looking 
> forward to many great miles on it! 
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Re: [RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

[Dan McNamara]

I’ll second Bruce on that suggestion. Not as big as the ones you have listed 
but great tires. I have a set in the garage that you could borrow to test out 
if you want. 

I am in San Rafael but head to the east bay fairly often. Probably heading over 
this weekend. PM me if you want to try and meet up. 

Dan

San Rafael

> On Jul 27, 2018, at 7:50 PM, "br...@bgcycles.com"  wrote:
> 
> You might want to try the Rock n’ Road tires. I make them in 650b x 43 both 
> Skinwall and Blackwall.  That is what they are made for - 
> https://brucegordoncycles.bigcartel.com 
> Regards,
> Bruce Gordon
> 
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 6:14 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Collin, no matter what you end up deciding, you owe it to yourself to start 
>> with the widest Compas tires that fit (Switchback Hill for 650b), as Compass 
>> is the benchmark for plush and smooth and fast ride. If you end up needing 
>> more flat protection due to thorns, try adding Orange sealant to your tubes. 
>> If you get flats from glass regularly, you may need different tires, but 
>> experience on that seems to vary here. As you then try different tires, you 
>> will have a solid benchmark of comfort and speed against which to compare 
>> them.
>> 
>> I’ve ridden the Barlow Pass (700 x 38, road), Snoqualmie (700 x 44 road), 
>> and Steilacoom (700 x 38 knobbie) on all kinds of terrain and the road tires 
>> woudl easily handle what you describe. Their only terrain downside is 
>> rutted/technical loose stuff and snow/mud, and the knobbie handles those 
>> with exellence. I ride 1/3 paved, 1/3 dirt, 1/3 trail, including a fair bit 
>> of more technical.
>> 
>> WIth abandon,
>> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Kids Stuff - What child seat fits what bike?

[Dan McNamara]

I used a Bobike Mini on my 52 Bombadil. That bike (early version) had a 59
TT and I used Bosco bars with it. My PBH is 84.5 so there was plenty of
height clearance. The clearance to the nose of the saddle was good - I
never had a problem with feeling crowded. The Bobike is more upright than
the iBert which is a good thing for clearance.

Anyway, the front seat was great until she was 3 1/2 and then I stitched
her to the back of the Cheviot with a Yepp Maxi seat. She never liked the
Burley trailer.

A friend used the Bobike after we outgrew it and really liked it as well.
He used it on a threadless mountain bike.

Dan

San Rafael, CA



On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:16 AM EasyRider  wrote:

> Paul, I think you're wise to borrow one first. These front seats tend to
> work best with large frames/top tubes. If you are about my size (PBH ~79),
> you may decide to wait for the Rosco Bebe or to get that trailer a little
> sooner.
>
> I can only speak to the iBert, but after installing one on my Trek 950,
> which I think has a top tube around 57-58cm, there was hardly any room left
> between the nose of the saddle and the backside of the iBert. (It wasn't a
> "tight squeeze" it was a "there's no way I could ever fit in there" kind of
> space, and I'm a trim 155 lbs.) I'd have needed to lower my saddle way down
> so that I could safely straddle the bike and plop my dude in the seat and
> buckle him in. And then I'd be riding around with knees splayed and legs
> never fully extended. This the problem that the Rosco Bebe would address by
> having a "legendarily long top tube" and swept back bars.
>
> Pete
> Arlington, VA
>
> On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 11:19:55 AM UTC-4, Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>> I know this topic comes up frequently. I've learned a lot from reading
>> previous threads, but with the impending BOSCO BEBE and an eight month old
>> who's anxious to get on a bike, I've got some decisions to make, and I'd
>> love some input.
>>
>> I'm pretty set on a front seat. It just seems like more fun. I'd love to
>> test a few seats out (front and back) before I buy anything, but I'm not
>> sure I have that option. Does anyone in the Atlanta area have a baby seat
>> or two I can test fit/test ride on a few different bikes? I'd really like
>> to test one of the Yepp models, but any seat I could try out would be
>> really helpful.
>>
>> My big question is, given my stable and the BOSCO BEBE, should I buy the
>> best seat for one of my current bikes, even if it's not the one I want, or
>> should I buy the seat I think I want, Yepp, mount it on a less than ideal
>> bike. Then shuffle the stable and the checkbook around till I get a bike
>> that works with the seat.
>>
>> I know the normal people answer is buy a seat for your current bike and
>> just ride, but I'm hoping to take lots of great rides over the next 2-3
>> years, so I can justify a dedicated bike/baby seat combo. I'm just not sure
>> what I want that to look like yet.
>>
>> Here's the bikes I've got that will work with a seat. Has anyone used a
>> front seat on any similar bikes? How'd it work out?
>>
>> 1. MTBUBBE - appears that the long head tube makes front seats less than
>> ideal. I'm not sure about the handling with an extra 20 lbs towards the
>> front.
>>
>> 2. 1984 Trek 720 - The frame is relatively light, but it rides well with
>> a load. The clamp spot for a front seat seems more reasonable, but it might
>> still be tight and the top tube is completely horizontal. I could try it
>> with riser bars instead of drops.
>>
>> 3. 1985 or so Peugeot MTB (Crazy Horse) - It's an 80s MTB. Super fun to
>> ride. No idea how the seat would fit and how it would handle. Any thoughts?
>>
>> 4. 90s Cannondale MTB - Pretty similar to the Peugeot, but nicer, newer
>> parts and a threadless stem.
>>
>> I'm not really interested in trailers right now, even though it's likely
>> that I'll use one eventually.
>>
>> Maybe a rear seat is the way to go?
>> Does anyone have any tips on how to determine whether a front seat will
>> work well on a particular bike?
>>
>> My guess is that in the end this is all pretty child-dependent, and I
>> shouldn't sink to much time and money into this until I know that my child
>> like to ride bikes. So maybe I just need to experiment a little bit. How
>> would y'all solve this "problem".
>>
>> Paul in ATL
>>
>> P.S. Anyone selling a used child seat in good condition? I'm your market.
>> DM me.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cutting down Grip area of Albatross bars?

[Dan McNamara]

I have an Alba that is cut down. I'll shoot a couple of pics for you and do 
some measurements. 

Dan

> On Jun 22, 2018, at 12:19 PM, phil k  wrote:
> 
> Yes it is. I rather like the bar ends on the upright bars though and they 
> keep hitting my legs.
> 
> I tried measuring inside, but it's a bit difficult. I might have to call Riv 
> and see what is possible. I'm already got a long reach stem on there.
> 
>> On Friday, June 22, 2018 at 1:47:35 PM UTC-4, Ian A wrote:
>> Switching to Thumbies would be an option.
>> IanA
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Cheviot and Bike Rack

[Dan McNamara]

You might take a look at this hitch adapter:

http://www.hitchsource.com/torklift-ecohitch-hidden-mini-cooper-hardtop-door-2015-14-in-receiver-p-36883.html

It is a bolt in so there should not need to be any fabrication. It is a
little strange having the hitch right above the exhausts but if there is
available space then why not.

Here is an over-dramatic video of the install: https://vimeo.com/145407793

A body shop could do this install pretty easily.

Dan



On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 11:09 AM Deborah Coffin 
wrote:

> I’m the happy owner of a new 50cm Cheviot, and am struggling to figure out
> how to safely transport it on my Mini Cooper. I have what I think is the
> only bike rack that works on my car—a Saris Bones. Apparently, unless it
> comes built for a hitch, Mini’s can’t be fitted with anything else.
>
> I’ve been mounting my bike between the top tune and behind the seat tube,
> then I turn the front wheel backwards so it doesn’t stick out too much.
> Right now I have no fenders or racks, but I’d like to get both, eventually,
> but wonder if that will make turning the front wheel impossible. The other
> issue is that the stays on the rack hit the bike at an odd angle,
> scratching and/or marking up the frame.
>
> I tried one of the bars that connect between the seat post and stem, but
> then the back wheel extends really far beyond the car.
>
> It’s the only sorrow I’ve had as a new owner, cause I’d like to take my
> bike with me across the country this summer. I took off the rear wheel to
> get it home when I bought it, but that’s sort of a pain.
>
> Beyond removing the wheels, or mounting it as I have been—or getting a
> different car—has anyone a better idea? Suggestions? Solutions?
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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Red Rodeo Complete bike $2400

[Dan McNamara]

The Roadeo is sold. Thanks!

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Dan McNamara <djmcnam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Continuing my purge of bikes that need to be ridden and currently are not.
>
> 57cm Hot Red Rodeo
>
> This bike was a demo bike at RBW built up by Mark. It has not seen many
> miles.
>
> Shimano 105 5700 10-speed group
> Compact (50/34) crankset w/ 172.5 crank arms
> 12-27 cassette
>
> Rich built A23 rims
> Jack Brown Green tires
> Nitto Tallux 10cm stem
> Nitto Crystal Fellow (s65) seatpost
> Nitto Noodle 46cm handlebars
> Brooks C17 Saddle
>
>
>
> Bike is in great shape and is a wonderful ride. Just not getting enough
> road time on it. The Shimano brifters shift great and the gearing is
> perfect for a fast road ramble with hills.
>
> Saddle height in picture is 72cm.
>
> $2400 plus actual shipping costs.
>
>
> I would prefer a local sale in the SF Bay Area but can work out shipping
> if necessary.
>
> Let me know if you are interested and want more pics.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [RBW] FS: NIB Luna Cycle BBS02 mid-drive kit with 48v battery $600

[Dan McNamara]

Hey! That's my job!



> On May 16, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> SOLD! To me, of course ;-)
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[RBW] FS: NIB Luna Cycle BBS02 mid-drive kit with 48v battery $600

[Dan McNamara]

Pardon the non-RBW content but since there has been a fair amount of e-bike
conversion discussion lately I thought I would throw this out there.


I purchased this kit to convert my wife's cargo bike (Bike Friday
Haul-a-Day) but she is not really going to be up for bike riding anytime in
the near future (unfortunately.) So instead of taking on an unneeded
project it is time to move this on.

The kit has never been installed or really out of the box. It is programmed
to 750W but is capable of delivering more power if needed/wanted.

Plenty of info available on the Luna Cycle site:
https://lunacycle.com/bafang-bbs02-750w-middrive-kit/

$600 plus shipping for the complete kit.

PM with any questions. I am in the SF Bay Area and local pickup or delivery
would be great.

Dan



*Build list:*

BBS02 Kit
Sprocket Size: 46T
Bafang C961 Display
Throttle Options: Bafang BBSxx Universal Thumb Throttle
Battery: Panasonic 48v Shark GA 13.5 ah
Charger: Standard 3amp Barrel Charger
Programming Cable: Bafang Programming Cable
Gear Sensor: GearSensor for Derailers and Internal Geared Hubs
Install Kit: Luna Wrench

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Re: [RBW] FS: 57cm Red Rodeo Complete bike $2400

[Dan McNamara]

Hi Joe,

The TT on the 57 Roadeo is 56.5.

I just realized that auto-spellcheck had struck may email subject. Awesome!
Roadeo not Rodeo.

Dan




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> Hey Dan, what is the TT measurement? Gorgeous bike!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Canti Sam vs BMC monstercross

[Dan Sullivan]

I think either one would be fine. I had a Sam during my flipper days and 
didn't really give it a chance.  I have a v. 3 BMC now and feel like it 
will do anything I want a bicycle to do.  Which for me is commuting on 
crappy WI roads, occasional easy singletrack, and basic bopping around.

So I guess I'm a content person now with my BMC whereas in my Sam days I 
was a fretter... Nothing to do with the actual bikes themselves tho.  Main 
difference in the builds is I'm running bigger tires on the BMC (43) 
compared to what I had on my Sam (35).  I think if I'd tried 43's on the 
Sam I would have stopped my flipping right there.

Dan
Madison, WI

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 1:08:39 PM UTC-5, Forrest Harvey wrote:

> I had the pleasure of picking a 5.3 frame from Mike a month or so ago. 
> Almost done with the build and will report back on the ride. 
> I know the wheelbase isn't has long as most Riv bikes. Mike doesn't 
> recommend the bike for extending touring over 1.5/2 weeks 
> .It is a no nonsense bike though and everything has a purpose 
> FD cable stop with barrel adjuster (pulley as well so you can Top or 
> Bottom Pull)
> Rear Canti Stop (Nice to have but obviously not needed with V brakes)
> All cables run on the top tube (Cleanest looking IMO and easy to service)
> Welds are super clean!
>
> *Build*
> Chris King HS
> XTR 9 speed FD
> XTR 9 speed rapid rise RD (not positive this is going to work)
> DA 9 speed bar end shifters
> Tektro Brake levers 
> Nitto Albastache bars 
> Velo Orange 90mm stem 18* rise 
> Nitto seatpost 
> Paul Mini moto's 
> White Industries G30 crankset with a wide low set up (44/24)
> Atlas Rims to WI MI5 Hubs with Firecross tires 
> King Water cages (the bike has mounts for 3 bottles which is nice!)
>
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 9:13 AM, John G. <jpg...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Apologies—looks like I wrote that just as Bill was posting.
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[RBW] Re: Your favorite Rivendell?

[Dan Sullivan]

In order, no longer own any of them so take this with a grain of salt.
 
1. Quickbeam. Green 62. By far the one I wish I still had.
2. Redwood. Green 65. Very nice road traditional road bike but I'm not that 
interested in this type of bike anymore. One of my all-time favorite 
colors, for bikes or anything else for that matter.
3. Mountain Expedition, burnt orange. Miss this one, although I really 
don't like 26" wheels anymore so it is probably nostalgia.
4. Hillborne at Riv HQ, liked it.
5. Hunqapillar at Riv HQ. Wanted to like it more than the Hillborne but 
didn't.
6. Hillborne at my house, bought after riding one at HQ (not the same 
one).  Did not like it at all, did not really give it a chance. Was in my 
fast-flip phase of biking; a lot of bikes went in and out without getting a 
fair shake, this was probably one.

The NewLantis looks really cool, esp. with the curvy tube in my size.  I've 
downsized to two bikes and haven't bought a new one for a while and won't 
be, so there ya go.  Old guy prattling on about the old days.

Dan, in rainy WI


On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 9:33:52 PM UTC-5, Kainalu V. wrote:

> After a 64 Hillborne, (only)two 68 Quickbeams, a 65 Clem H, a Will's 
> Mountain Mixte, and a Hubbuhubbuh. The Beams were super, the Clem does 
> whatever I want it to, the Hillborne was the first bike that fit, and the 
> tandem is too fresh to judge. But the mixte?, that bike rules. Had to do 
> some filing to get the chain to stop pinching between the cassette and 
> somewhat low hourglass braze-on, and the blue took awhile before I loved it 
> (I do!), but that bike gives me great joy. With it's step throughness, it 
> looks slow and relaxed, which makes it more of a kick when it's not being 
> slow and relaxed, and makes slow and relaxed that much more so. Love love 
> love that bike...
> -Kai
> BK NY 
>
> P.S.- whoever was riding that cinnamonny red beauty of a Quickbeam through 
> Queens this morning, yours may be my favorite, wish I wasn't rushing along 
> to a meeting and could've spent a bit of time drooling. 
> Hi. Nice Bike.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FT: Your Medium Shopsack for my Large

[dan beringhele]

Sorry, olive. I don’t really care what color I get in return.

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:58 PM Belopsky <belopolsky.i...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Color?
>
> On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 7:35:46 PM UTC-4, DB wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking to trade my large shopsack for your medium.  Mine's in great
>> shape, used without any tears, holes or stains.  Let me know if you're
>> interested.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS - Waterford AHH 59cm

[Dan Bracey]

The bike is sold.  Thanks. 

On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 3:19:45 PM UTC-4, Dan Bracey wrote:
>
> Willing to sell Frame/Fork/Headset for $1500 shipped.  
>
> On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 2:13:53 AM UTC-4, Dan Bracey wrote:
>>
>> Full image gallery here: https://imgur.com/a/axZDK
>>
>> I'm going to regret this, but for sale is a Waterford built 2006 A. Homer 
>> Hilsen that I have owned it since 2010. When I bought the bike, I thought 
>> I'd own it for the rest of my life, but it turns out that it just doesn't 
>> fit the type of riding I'm doing as well as I thought it would. It is one 
>> of the more beautiful frames I've ever put my eyes on and when I purchased 
>> it I painstakingly cleaned the frame and carefully touched up all the chips 
>> with matching enamel paint (first sign that I'm not a true "Riv guy"). 
>>
>> The paint is darker blue than the current Homer and anyone that is paying 
>> attention knows that the AHH has gone through a lot of hues of blue over 
>> the years. I was also missing the brifter index shifting from my sportier 
>> road bike, so Homer's bar end shifters got swapped for a full Shimano 
>> Ultegra 6500 triple groupset (second sign that I'm not a true Riv believer) 
>> which I believe to be the last classically beautiful group that Shimano 
>> produced. I don't need to go into how great these frames are and how well 
>> they handle, or how beautiful they are, but I will say that the size 59 
>> frame was on the verge of being too big for my 5'11" frame, but it was 
>> still comfortable for a couple of 100 mile plus rides that I did on it. The 
>> larger than normal sizing and the low seat post was one Grantism that I do 
>> believe in for this bike which made it extremely comfortable for long rides.
>>
>> Further details on the build are a full Nitto cockpit & seatpost 
>> including 46cm Noodle handlebars wrapped with brooks honey leather tape 
>> that could use some moisturizing but still has plenty of life. A set of 
>> classic Rivendell wheels: Rich-built, Phil-hubbed (NLA), Synergy Velocity 
>> rimmed, 36 spoke wheels with a Shimano 12/27 9 speed cassette. Jagwire 
>> silver cables throughout and Tektro R556 Sidepull brakes. 
>>
>> The bike recently had a service from the top notch local shop including a 
>> replacement of the shift cables.
>>
>> Seeing as the groupset is not very "rivish", I'm happy to sell the bike 
>> minus the groupset, but I would prefer to sell complete. I will probably 
>> shed a few tears as I tape up the box on this one, but this is a bike that 
>> deserves to be ridden hard and often and I'm not doing that. 
>>
>> Complete $2700 
>> Less Shimano groupset, but including everything else, wheels, cockpit, 
>> etc. $2300
>>
>> Will consider frame only, but prefer to sell complete
>>
>> Prices do not including shipping or fees.  Located in Charlottesville, VA 
>> and happy to deal locally.  
>>
>> Contact me by email - dlbra...@gmail.com
>>
>> Full image gallery here: https://imgur.com/a/axZDK
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS - Waterford AHH 59cm

[Dan Bracey]

Willing to sell Frame/Fork/Headset for $1500 shipped.  

On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 2:13:53 AM UTC-4, Dan Bracey wrote:
>
> Full image gallery here: https://imgur.com/a/axZDK
>
> I'm going to regret this, but for sale is a Waterford built 2006 A. Homer 
> Hilsen that I have owned it since 2010. When I bought the bike, I thought 
> I'd own it for the rest of my life, but it turns out that it just doesn't 
> fit the type of riding I'm doing as well as I thought it would. It is one 
> of the more beautiful frames I've ever put my eyes on and when I purchased 
> it I painstakingly cleaned the frame and carefully touched up all the chips 
> with matching enamel paint (first sign that I'm not a true "Riv guy"). 
>
> The paint is darker blue than the current Homer and anyone that is paying 
> attention knows that the AHH has gone through a lot of hues of blue over 
> the years. I was also missing the brifter index shifting from my sportier 
> road bike, so Homer's bar end shifters got swapped for a full Shimano 
> Ultegra 6500 triple groupset (second sign that I'm not a true Riv believer) 
> which I believe to be the last classically beautiful group that Shimano 
> produced. I don't need to go into how great these frames are and how well 
> they handle, or how beautiful they are, but I will say that the size 59 
> frame was on the verge of being too big for my 5'11" frame, but it was 
> still comfortable for a couple of 100 mile plus rides that I did on it. The 
> larger than normal sizing and the low seat post was one Grantism that I do 
> believe in for this bike which made it extremely comfortable for long rides.
>
> Further details on the build are a full Nitto cockpit & seatpost including 
> 46cm Noodle handlebars wrapped with brooks honey leather tape that could 
> use some moisturizing but still has plenty of life. A set of classic 
> Rivendell wheels: Rich-built, Phil-hubbed (NLA), Synergy Velocity rimmed, 
> 36 spoke wheels with a Shimano 12/27 9 speed cassette. Jagwire silver 
> cables throughout and Tektro R556 Sidepull brakes. 
>
> The bike recently had a service from the top notch local shop including a 
> replacement of the shift cables.
>
> Seeing as the groupset is not very "rivish", I'm happy to sell the bike 
> minus the groupset, but I would prefer to sell complete. I will probably 
> shed a few tears as I tape up the box on this one, but this is a bike that 
> deserves to be ridden hard and often and I'm not doing that. 
>
> Complete $2700 
> Less Shimano groupset, but including everything else, wheels, cockpit, 
> etc. $2300
>
> Will consider frame only, but prefer to sell complete
>
> Prices do not including shipping or fees.  Located in Charlottesville, VA 
> and happy to deal locally.  
>
> Contact me by email - dlbra...@gmail.com
>
> Full image gallery here: https://imgur.com/a/axZDK
>

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