[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Bonk?
I think the ease of institution of the regimen can vary as individuals' balance of fast-twitch and slow-twitch (white meat, dark meat for the poultry familiar). Know that your smooth muscle, (heart, blood vessels walls, intestinal walls) are fueled by glucose. Your brain and nervous system run exclusively on it too. The diet's object is to end the fast and easy conversion of carbohydrates and sugars into glycogen, the energy storage molecule in your liver and large muscles from which glucose supplies are detached and circulated for that use. Fats, oils and proteins are also processed into glycogen too, it just takes more time and energy. In certain neurological situations a ketogenic diet is instituted for just that reason. This diet conversion should probably be undertaken before you go out above the normal activity or duration as the depletion of the rapidly available stores leaves you in the rarely exercised conversion to stores that are slower to respond to physiologic needs until more rehearsed. You can end up with low blood sugar level presenting various symptoms ranging from lowered consciousness, heart palpitations and GI distress since that system represents the largest amount of of smooth muscle and is also the one the body will take off-line if supplies fall short. Preservation of the prioritized critical operations will ensue. Lack of stores forces the body the body to initiate those choices and if continued something called catabolism will ensue where the body will begin to breakdown functional tissue to make energy. Your GI system's tolerance of the diet is another issue. Difficulties can come from a shift of dietary intake in the liver's production, smooth flow of, storage in the gall bladder and secretion into the small intestine to emulsify fats, oils and lipids in the diet. Requirements for the substance exceeds the flow volume the ducts can support or the product becomes sludgy. Pancreatic secretions have digestive enzymes which, if any structural barrier to the flow of the volume produce in response to dietary intake can begin taking the same action (digestion) on itself resulting in pancreatitis. Poor responses to Atkins diets are frequent in the literature. Have to listen to your body and know where you are starting. You may have more brittleness to this metabolic change that is either on the molecular or structural level or it might be well tolerated once the conversion is complete. This audience is generally an active one, benefitting all of this. The population I see with gall stones, requiring biliary stenting and pancreatitis are not using this diet to benefit their metabolic function, they are sitting on the couch playing video games, eating junk and finally having distress when they present. Andy Cheatham Piottsburgh On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 12:37:26 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: But isn't eating all that cream and fat really bad for your circulatory system? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Fixing sharp edges on B67 rivets
Philip, did you use a hammer on copper rivets, or on steel rivets or both? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Bonk?
No. Read the book. Then ask questions. Everything your thought you knew about the relationship between fat and cholesterol and health is wrong. Learn why. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 10:37:26 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: But isn't eating all that cream and fat really bad for your circulatory system? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Bonk?
Anne, You are right, fruit is mostly sugar. There isn't a nutritional need for fruit or sugar, once the liver and body are producing the glucose needed, and sipping it rather than gulping it. I still eat a grapefruit now and again when they are in season. The date advice is for when someone is riding (or exercising), in the transition between being a sugar burner and a fat burner, and needs to bump up their glucose stores because of those combined factors. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 11:36:53 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm trying to understand how eating dates, which are basically sugar stuck together with a little bit of fiber and a little water, work in a diet that is supposed to be low in sugars and starches. Why not just eat jelly beans? On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 6:28 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote: I'm experiencing some of the same. I did a 200k on Saturday. I've been eating very low carb for only two weeks now. Saturday was actually day number 13. I'm going for my first RUSA R-12 so I need a 200k for the month of January. I chose a very flat (only 500 ft. of elevation gain in 200k!) route in VA. It was 31 degrees at the start with a 40 degree high, sunny, very light winds. I had fatty tea and yogurt with bleu cheese and macadamias for breakfast (Grant's concoction, but I forgot the coconut at home, darn it). I took along maybe 8-10oz. of salami and 6-8 oz of parmesan cheese. I didn't eat all of the salami and cheese. Maybe I ate slightly more than half. I also had half of a big dill pickle for the sodium. I felt ok for most of the ride. I had the pickle at 25 miles, then a couple of pieces of cheese between the 25 and 63 mile point. At 63 miles I stopped for lunch. I am caffeine free these days (for nearly a year now) except when on brevets. I find it is a great pick me up if only used on these long rides. I had coffee and salami and cheese. The next stop was at 103 miles and, although not hungry, I ate about 1/3 bag of almonds for the sodium. (I did take electrolyte tablets throughout the ride. About every hour.) So the last 22 miles I sort of ran out of gas. At around the 110 mile point I couldn't really produce any power. I ate a few more pieces of cheese and finished the ride. Overall I was happy to just finish. My rolling average was 15.2. I would expect that I could do better on such a flat route, maybe 16-17. But I was never hungry. I ate only because I felt that I should. I finished around 5:00 and I only had some fatty tea and a few macadamias that evening. There was no hunger. I look at it as an experiment, and a not at all unsuccessful one. I know that I am still trying to adapt to fat burning so Deacon's suggestion of dates (or some kind of natural carbs) is a good one. I also read Tony's link to Mark Sisson on fueling for a marathon, and I think I may try it for next month's 200k. Oh, by the way, I've lost 5 lbs in two weeks, although I gained one lb after the 200k. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Too much on the plate.
I'd wear one. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 7:51:20 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: ##Bill logs onto cafe press to have *SMAFU* T-shirts printed## -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike
I'm a big fan of Brooks tape which, of course, matches the honey saddle perfectly. They are expensive but I bought them after my third set of corks crapped out in less than a year. I bought one pack of Brooks 9 years ago and have moved them across three different handlebars. I only had to clean off a little of the adhesive with Goof-off. They feel great and age in a similar fashion as the seat (although not quite as quickly). The new-to-me Hillborne I recently purchased came with Albatross bars. I've thought about swapping them for Albastache bars because I miss having the mustache-style bars I had on a Surly. Initially, I have considered at least flipping them upside-down (as David said he tried) to achieve the more ergonomic down drop on the front curve. I fear I would lose the upright quality at the bar ends that is nice to have when commuting through the city. If I did switch to Albastache, I would probably go back to a shorter stem. 'Stache bars really increase the reach. Has anyone flipped Albatross bars over or is that just a ridiculous idea? As for the quicker steering on the 'stache bars, I believe that has more to do with the hand position being in front of the pivot point of the headset. More of your weight is further out so the steering action is more of releasing of your weight from one side to the other. It uses your weight more in the steering. With the upright bars such as the Albatross and Bosco, your hands are more in line with that pivot point and less of your weight is on the bars. Steering becomes more of a push/pull relationship. At least that's what I've been able to surmise from a basic ergonomic comparison between the drops, bosco, albatross and older mustache bars I've had. This is also why I think that flipping the Albatross bars will not achieve a similar feel of my old mustache bars. Hi, I'm John and I'm a bar-swap addict. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 8:08:47 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: Hi folks, I am contemplating a winter project that would convert an early 1990 Trek 520 touring bike into an around town grocery getter and/or bike trail, easy cruising bike. My plan is to swap out the Noodle bars on my Trek for Albastache bars. From what I have read, this looks to be a pretty easy conversion. The bar end shifters that I have on the Noodles should work on the Albastache bars. I should also be able to swap over the brake levers from the Noodle to the Alnbastache (I've got the original levers - non-aero, non-brifters). Is there something that I am missing? Will be cable lengths be similar or will I likely need new cables? For as long as I can remember, every bike that I have ever ridden has used drop bars, so I contemplate this shift with both excitement and a bit of apprehension. After all, why mess with something that works? On the other hand, I think that this conversion will bring new life to a bike that does not get used very often. One other thought, what color Newbaum tape do you suggest to best match an Brooks B-17 honey saddle that has some years on it? Thanks for your thoughts. Sean EA, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike
Do you Proofide the bar tape? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Surlyprof Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:28 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike I'm a big fan of Brooks tape which, of course, matches the honey saddle perfectly. They are expensive but I bought them after my third set of corks crapped out in less than a year. I bought one pack of Brooks 9 years ago and have moved them across three different handlebars. I only had to clean off a little of the adhesive with Goof-off. They feel great and age in a similar fashion as the seat (although not quite as quickly). The new-to-me Hillborne I recently purchased came with Albatross bars. I've thought about swapping them for Albastache bars because I miss having the mustache-style bars I had on a Surly. Initially, I have considered at least flipping them upside-down (as David said he tried) to achieve the more ergonomic down drop on the front curve. I fear I would lose the upright quality at the bar ends that is nice to have when commuting through the city. If I did switch to Albastache, I would probably go back to a shorter stem. 'Stache bars really increase the reach. Has anyone flipped Albatross bars over or is that just a ridiculous idea? As for the quicker steering on the 'stache bars, I believe that has more to do with the hand position being in front of the pivot point of the headset. More of your weight is further out so the steering action is more of releasing of your weight from one side to the other. It uses your weight more in the steering. With the upright bars such as the Albatross and Bosco, your hands are more in line with that pivot point and less of your weight is on the bars. Steering becomes more of a push/pull relationship. At least that's what I've been able to surmise from a basic ergonomic comparison between the drops, bosco, albatross and older mustache bars I've had. This is also why I think that flipping the Albatross bars will not achieve a similar feel of my old mustache bars. Hi, I'm John and I'm a bar-swap addict. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 8:08:47 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: Hi folks, I am contemplating a winter project that would convert an early 1990 Trek 520 touring bike into an around town grocery getter and/or bike trail, easy cruising bike. My plan is to swap out the Noodle bars on my Trek for Albastache bars. From what I have read, this looks to be a pretty easy conversion. The bar end shifters that I have on the Noodles should work on the Albastache bars. I should also be able to swap over the brake levers from the Noodle to the Alnbastache (I've got the original levers - non-aero, non-brifters). Is there something that I am missing? Will be cable lengths be similar or will I likely need new cables? For as long as I can remember, every bike that I have ever ridden has used drop bars, so I contemplate this shift with both excitement and a bit of apprehension. After all, why mess with something that works? On the other hand, I think that this conversion will bring new life to a bike that does not get used very often. One other thought, what color Newbaum tape do you suggest to best match an Brooks B-17 honey saddle that has some years on it? Thanks for your thoughts. Sean EA, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners
[RBW] Re: Dumber than my derailer!
I also had a similar problem. The derailleur hanger had twisted a little from my shoelace catching it. I just had to rotate it slightly to fix the problem (in my situation). John On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 2:58:53 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: I can’t seem to get my front derailer sorted properly. In it’s current cable tension/screw settings it takes up 80% of the shift range in the big ring, and goes to the middle at 90% pushed down and the granny at 100% pushed down. I’d rather spread that out evenly but can’t get there and have increased my drain bammage trying to follow the books. What magic answers do you all have in the derailers for dummies category? Grin. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike
Brooks leather bar tape isn't the same leather as the saddles (that would be much too thick, of course). It's thinner and has a wax treatment from the factory (which is noted in the accompanying paperwork, iirc) so it holds up pretty well without any treatment. However, I also use Obenauf's on the tape after it gets a little worn. I use Obenauf's on everything leather (though I also use silicone cream on my boots once a year). FYI, the black, brown, honey, and red Brooks tape is made in Italy, and all the other colors are made in China. The Brooks bar plugs fall out quickly, in my experience. Whiskey caps are a closer replacement to the Brooks plugs, but they don't stay in as positively as wine corks. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Surlyprof jmcclu...@gmail.com wrote: I use the Obenauf's that Rivendell sells. Stuff is fantastic. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/goo13-tiny.htm John On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 8:29:24 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: Do you Proofide the bar tape? *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Surlyprof *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:28 AM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike I'm a big fan of Brooks tape which, of course, matches the honey saddle perfectly. They are expensive but I bought them after my third set of corks crapped out in less than a year. I bought one pack of Brooks 9 years ago and have moved them across three different handlebars. I only had to clean off a little of the adhesive with Goof-off. They feel great and age in a similar fashion as the seat (although not quite as quickly). The new-to-me Hillborne I recently purchased came with Albatross bars. I've thought about swapping them for Albastache bars because I miss having the mustache-style bars I had on a Surly. Initially, I have considered at least flipping them upside-down (as David said he tried) to achieve the more ergonomic down drop on the front curve. I fear I would lose the upright quality at the bar ends that is nice to have when commuting through the city. If I did switch to Albastache, I would probably go back to a shorter stem. 'Stache bars really increase the reach. Has anyone flipped Albatross bars over or is that just a ridiculous idea? As for the quicker steering on the 'stache bars, I believe that has more to do with the hand position being in front of the pivot point of the headset. More of your weight is further out so the steering action is more of releasing of your weight from one side to the other. It uses your weight more in the steering. With the upright bars such as the Albatross and Bosco, your hands are more in line with that pivot point and less of your weight is on the bars. Steering becomes more of a push/pull relationship. At least that's what I've been able to surmise from a basic ergonomic comparison between the drops, bosco, albatross and older mustache bars I've had. This is also why I think that flipping the Albatross bars will not achieve a similar feel of my old mustache bars. Hi, I'm John and I'm a bar-swap addict. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 8:08:47 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: Hi folks, I am contemplating a winter project that would convert an early 1990 Trek 520 touring bike into an around town grocery getter and/or bike trail, easy cruising bike. My plan is to swap out the Noodle bars on my Trek for Albastache bars. From what I have read, this looks to be a pretty easy conversion. The bar end shifters that I have on the Noodles should work on the Albastache bars. I should also be able to swap over the brake levers from the Noodle to the Alnbastache (I've got the original levers - non-aero, non-brifters). Is there something that I am missing? Will be cable lengths be similar or will I likely need new cables? For as long as I can remember, every bike that I have ever ridden has used drop bars, so I contemplate this shift with both excitement and a bit of apprehension. After all, why mess with something that works? On the other hand, I think that this conversion will bring new life to a bike that does not get used very often. One other thought, what color Newbaum tape do you suggest to best match an Brooks B-17 honey saddle that has some years on it? Thanks for your thoughts. Sean EA, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --
RE: [RBW] Re: Too much on the plate.
TOO FUNNY. I’d take one, too, and I’ve never even laid eyes on Manny (no need, though, to understand the shirt!). From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 7:51 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Too much on the plate. ##Bill logs onto cafe press to have SMAFU T-shirts printed## On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:47:14 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: SMAFU On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I called into RBWHQ this morning to ask a technical question. Dave was all Sorry for the noise, Bill, it's situation Manny up in here. Apparently Manny and his motley crew had just rolled in from their overnighter. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: Time. Always the big factor. With the very limited amount of time in my life. A much needed time on the bike was important for the recharge. 40 miler ride with 6000 feet of climb AND overnight? Sure lets try to squeeze it in. New trails and private roads? Maybe 5ish hours including lunch. 7 hours later. We're still trying to find the car in the dark with no lights. 2 hours late. I'm grateful that good friend Ely could vouch for me. Tony from Silva cycles and Bridget from Palo Alto Bicycles join in on a quick overnight. Amazing ride and amazing overnight? I'm more grateful for the amazing fiancee that deals with me leaving the house for a bike ride and coming back only to leave again for an overnight. Pictures proved that Karl the Fog comes to Walnut Creek: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk7cGubY Manny Never enough time for everything Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Bonk?
Deacon, Ok, so let me get this straight. You sleep on the floor, don't sit on chairs, don't stretch, breath through your nose, ran 30 miles a day with your camping gear in a fanny pack, ride bare-foot and eat once a day? You sir, are the most interesting man in the world! On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:10:03 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Anne, You are right, fruit is mostly sugar. There isn't a nutritional need for fruit or sugar, once the liver and body are producing the glucose needed, and sipping it rather than gulping it. I still eat a grapefruit now and again when they are in season. The date advice is for when someone is riding (or exercising), in the transition between being a sugar burner and a fat burner, and needs to bump up their glucose stores because of those combined factors. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 11:36:53 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm trying to understand how eating dates, which are basically sugar stuck together with a little bit of fiber and a little water, work in a diet that is supposed to be low in sugars and starches. Why not just eat jelly beans? On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 6:28 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote: I'm experiencing some of the same. I did a 200k on Saturday. I've been eating very low carb for only two weeks now. Saturday was actually day number 13. I'm going for my first RUSA R-12 so I need a 200k for the month of January. I chose a very flat (only 500 ft. of elevation gain in 200k!) route in VA. It was 31 degrees at the start with a 40 degree high, sunny, very light winds. I had fatty tea and yogurt with bleu cheese and macadamias for breakfast (Grant's concoction, but I forgot the coconut at home, darn it). I took along maybe 8-10oz. of salami and 6-8 oz of parmesan cheese. I didn't eat all of the salami and cheese. Maybe I ate slightly more than half. I also had half of a big dill pickle for the sodium. I felt ok for most of the ride. I had the pickle at 25 miles, then a couple of pieces of cheese between the 25 and 63 mile point. At 63 miles I stopped for lunch. I am caffeine free these days (for nearly a year now) except when on brevets. I find it is a great pick me up if only used on these long rides. I had coffee and salami and cheese. The next stop was at 103 miles and, although not hungry, I ate about 1/3 bag of almonds for the sodium. (I did take electrolyte tablets throughout the ride. About every hour.) So the last 22 miles I sort of ran out of gas. At around the 110 mile point I couldn't really produce any power. I ate a few more pieces of cheese and finished the ride. Overall I was happy to just finish. My rolling average was 15.2. I would expect that I could do better on such a flat route, maybe 16-17. But I was never hungry. I ate only because I felt that I should. I finished around 5:00 and I only had some fatty tea and a few macadamias that evening. There was no hunger. I look at it as an experiment, and a not at all unsuccessful one. I know that I am still trying to adapt to fat burning so Deacon's suggestion of dates (or some kind of natural carbs) is a good one. I also read Tony's link to Mark Sisson on fueling for a marathon, and I think I may try it for next month's 200k. Oh, by the way, I've lost 5 lbs in two weeks, although I gained one lb after the 200k. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike
I use the Obenauf's that Rivendell sells. Stuff is fantastic. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/goo13-tiny.htm John On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 8:29:24 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: Do you Proofide the bar tape? *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Surlyprof *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:28 AM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike I'm a big fan of Brooks tape which, of course, matches the honey saddle perfectly. They are expensive but I bought them after my third set of corks crapped out in less than a year. I bought one pack of Brooks 9 years ago and have moved them across three different handlebars. I only had to clean off a little of the adhesive with Goof-off. They feel great and age in a similar fashion as the seat (although not quite as quickly). The new-to-me Hillborne I recently purchased came with Albatross bars. I've thought about swapping them for Albastache bars because I miss having the mustache-style bars I had on a Surly. Initially, I have considered at least flipping them upside-down (as David said he tried) to achieve the more ergonomic down drop on the front curve. I fear I would lose the upright quality at the bar ends that is nice to have when commuting through the city. If I did switch to Albastache, I would probably go back to a shorter stem. 'Stache bars really increase the reach. Has anyone flipped Albatross bars over or is that just a ridiculous idea? As for the quicker steering on the 'stache bars, I believe that has more to do with the hand position being in front of the pivot point of the headset. More of your weight is further out so the steering action is more of releasing of your weight from one side to the other. It uses your weight more in the steering. With the upright bars such as the Albatross and Bosco, your hands are more in line with that pivot point and less of your weight is on the bars. Steering becomes more of a push/pull relationship. At least that's what I've been able to surmise from a basic ergonomic comparison between the drops, bosco, albatross and older mustache bars I've had. This is also why I think that flipping the Albatross bars will not achieve a similar feel of my old mustache bars. Hi, I'm John and I'm a bar-swap addict. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 8:08:47 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: Hi folks, I am contemplating a winter project that would convert an early 1990 Trek 520 touring bike into an around town grocery getter and/or bike trail, easy cruising bike. My plan is to swap out the Noodle bars on my Trek for Albastache bars. From what I have read, this looks to be a pretty easy conversion. The bar end shifters that I have on the Noodles should work on the Albastache bars. I should also be able to swap over the brake levers from the Noodle to the Alnbastache (I've got the original levers - non-aero, non-brifters). Is there something that I am missing? Will be cable lengths be similar or will I likely need new cables? For as long as I can remember, every bike that I have ever ridden has used drop bars, so I contemplate this shift with both excitement and a bit of apprehension. After all, why mess with something that works? On the other hand, I think that this conversion will bring new life to a bike that does not get used very often. One other thought, what color Newbaum tape do you suggest to best match an Brooks B-17 honey saddle that has some years on it? Thanks for your thoughts. Sean EA, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications
[RBW] Re: Fixing sharp edges on B67 rivets
I definitely hammered down the edges of copper rivets on the Quickbeam's B17. I think I also hammered the edges of steel rivets, but I'm not sure. I don't think you'll damage the integrity of a rivet by removing material from its head, but since they're designed to be hammered, I'd try that first. Philip www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 3:31:16 AM UTC-8, John Phillips wrote: Philip, did you use a hammer on copper rivets, or on steel rivets or both? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Fixing sharp edges on B67 rivets
I agree that you should try hammering it first. It could be that the rivet wasn't set completely into the leather as it's meant to be, so the edge would be sticking up a little causing the discomfort. David Chicago On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 12:31:36 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: I definitely hammered down the edges of copper rivets on the Quickbeam's B17. I think I also hammered the edges of steel rivets, but I'm not sure. I don't think you'll damage the integrity of a rivet by removing material from its head, but since they're designed to be hammered, I'd try that first. Philip www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 3:31:16 AM UTC-8, John Phillips wrote: Philip, did you use a hammer on copper rivets, or on steel rivets or both? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Swift Industries Paloma Handlebar bag/ hardly used with Klick Flix mount system
ASKING $160 SHIPPED TO THE CONTINENTAL U.S. PLEASE EMAIL EMAIL ME FOR DIRECT RESPONSE: rodc...@gmail.com I bought this custom made Swift Industries Bar bag and never found a home for it. I had planned to use it on my road bike but ended up with a different setup. This bag was mounted and ridden twice. Yes, that's it. It has the deluxe Waxed Canvas charcoal colored material that was an upcharge. I also have the Rixen Kaul Klick Flix mounting system with clamps for either a 26.0 sized bar or a 31.8. I'm selling it because I'm not using it. I have another setup where I'm using a large Swift Industries Ozette Rando bag with decauleur. I may be selling that soon as well as I need more room than the bag can accomodate. Anyhow, photos of the Paloma are attached. It's in great shape sorry my photos aren't that good but the bag is clean. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4sPzD7wsCro/VL6kP8vgphI/D5Y/rECowclTmSM/s1600/IMG_9611.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-un4ZuWQmh94/VL6kSCxU6DI/D5g/yu9ZmxyjLC4/s1600/IMG_9612.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LEtl6gtL5-A/VL6kTz890-I/D5o/hSyFncmRjTI/s1600/IMG_9613.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BSMnhPTfTOY/VL6kN5UX3iI/D5Q/NtxLdYiCByc/s1600/IMG_9610.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Too much on the plate.
Yes! Sign me up for one. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:51:20 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: ##Bill logs onto cafe press to have *SMAFU* T-shirts printed## On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:47:14 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: SMAFU On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: I called into RBWHQ this morning to ask a technical question. Dave was all Sorry for the noise, Bill, it's situation Manny up in here. Apparently Manny and his motley crew had just rolled in from their overnighter. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: Time. Always the big factor. With the very limited amount of time in my life. A much needed time on the bike was important for the recharge. 40 miler ride with 6000 feet of climb AND overnight? Sure lets try to squeeze it in. New trails and private roads? Maybe 5ish hours including lunch. 7 hours later. We're still trying to find the car in the dark with no lights. 2 hours late. I'm grateful that good friend Ely could vouch for me. Tony from Silva cycles and Bridget from Palo Alto Bicycles join in on a quick overnight. Amazing ride and amazing overnight? I'm more grateful for the amazing fiancee that deals with me leaving the house for a bike ride and coming back only to leave again for an overnight. Pictures proved that Karl the Fog comes to Walnut Creek: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk7cGubY Manny Never enough time for everything Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike
I have no experience with Albastache bars but a lot with Trek 5/6/720 from that period. They tend to steer a bit more quickly than any of the RBW bikes I have ridden and so I would wonder if the wider bars might accentuate that. Just a thought. Michael On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 11:08:47 AM UTC-5, SeanMac wrote: Hi folks, I am contemplating a winter project that would convert an early 1990 Trek 520 touring bike into an around town grocery getter and/or bike trail, easy cruising bike. My plan is to swap out the Noodle bars on my Trek for Albastache bars. From what I have read, this looks to be a pretty easy conversion. The bar end shifters that I have on the Noodles should work on the Albastache bars. I should also be able to swap over the brake levers from the Noodle to the Alnbastache (I've got the original levers - non-aero, non-brifters). Is there something that I am missing? Will be cable lengths be similar or will I likely need new cables? For as long as I can remember, every bike that I have ever ridden has used drop bars, so I contemplate this shift with both excitement and a bit of apprehension. After all, why mess with something that works? On the other hand, I think that this conversion will bring new life to a bike that does not get used very often. One other thought, what color Newbaum tape do you suggest to best match an Brooks B-17 honey saddle that has some years on it? Thanks for your thoughts. Sean EA, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Bonk?
Quirky. The word you're looking for is quirky. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 9:20:36 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote: Deacon, Ok, so let me get this straight. You sleep on the floor, don't sit on chairs, don't stretch, breath through your nose, ran 30 miles a day with your camping gear in a fanny pack, ride bare-foot and eat once a day? You sir, are the most interesting man in the world! On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:10:03 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Anne, You are right, fruit is mostly sugar. There isn't a nutritional need for fruit or sugar, once the liver and body are producing the glucose needed, and sipping it rather than gulping it. I still eat a grapefruit now and again when they are in season. The date advice is for when someone is riding (or exercising), in the transition between being a sugar burner and a fat burner, and needs to bump up their glucose stores because of those combined factors. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 11:36:53 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm trying to understand how eating dates, which are basically sugar stuck together with a little bit of fiber and a little water, work in a diet that is supposed to be low in sugars and starches. Why not just eat jelly beans? On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 6:28 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote: I'm experiencing some of the same. I did a 200k on Saturday. I've been eating very low carb for only two weeks now. Saturday was actually day number 13. I'm going for my first RUSA R-12 so I need a 200k for the month of January. I chose a very flat (only 500 ft. of elevation gain in 200k!) route in VA. It was 31 degrees at the start with a 40 degree high, sunny, very light winds. I had fatty tea and yogurt with bleu cheese and macadamias for breakfast (Grant's concoction, but I forgot the coconut at home, darn it). I took along maybe 8-10oz. of salami and 6-8 oz of parmesan cheese. I didn't eat all of the salami and cheese. Maybe I ate slightly more than half. I also had half of a big dill pickle for the sodium. I felt ok for most of the ride. I had the pickle at 25 miles, then a couple of pieces of cheese between the 25 and 63 mile point. At 63 miles I stopped for lunch. I am caffeine free these days (for nearly a year now) except when on brevets. I find it is a great pick me up if only used on these long rides. I had coffee and salami and cheese. The next stop was at 103 miles and, although not hungry, I ate about 1/3 bag of almonds for the sodium. (I did take electrolyte tablets throughout the ride. About every hour.) So the last 22 miles I sort of ran out of gas. At around the 110 mile point I couldn't really produce any power. I ate a few more pieces of cheese and finished the ride. Overall I was happy to just finish. My rolling average was 15.2. I would expect that I could do better on such a flat route, maybe 16-17. But I was never hungry. I ate only because I felt that I should. I finished around 5:00 and I only had some fatty tea and a few macadamias that evening. There was no hunger. I look at it as an experiment, and a not at all unsuccessful one. I know that I am still trying to adapt to fat burning so Deacon's suggestion of dates (or some kind of natural carbs) is a good one. I also read Tony's link to Mark Sisson on fueling for a marathon, and I think I may try it for next month's 200k. Oh, by the way, I've lost 5 lbs in two weeks, although I gained one lb after the 200k. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?
Yes, I found the 700x35 version online, thanks. What is the difference between the regular folding tire and the Adventure tire? See: http://www.outsideoutfitters.com/p-24675-clement-xplor-clincher-tires.aspx?variantID=74424gclid=CjwKEAiAlvilBRC5ueCzkpXb4kgSJADxop1B_-hrXETBIefTSLRXuKZnbnVDzMWPXO3fQPjaR-PwohoC0brw_wcB On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like you need some manner of CX tire. I've had good luck with the Clement MSO 700x40 tires but they would likely not fit on the Redwood. I believe there is a similar version in 700x35 (USH-something or rather). KJ On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 5:34:51 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX, route 2531 http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531 The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX and Lincoln, TX. A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for riding this stretch. I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois, one running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups. There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel and some paved stretches. Our back tires kept sliding sideways when we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would have to correct. Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of times it was close. It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires. What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end slide-outs on soft dirt and sand. But not so much tread that it digs itself into soft surfaces. The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42. It would fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time. I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them. Any suggestions? Must roll good on pavement as well. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?
Oh, looks like the MSO comes in 700x32 too. Cool! I enjoy the tread pattern on the MSOs and they do roll well on pavement. KJ On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:45:54 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: Yes, I found the 700x35 version online, thanks. What is the difference between the regular folding tire and the Adventure tire? See: http://www.outsideoutfitters.com/p-24675-clement-xplor-clincher-tires.aspx?variantID=74424gclid=CjwKEAiAlvilBRC5ueCzkpXb4kgSJADxop1B_-hrXETBIefTSLRXuKZnbnVDzMWPXO3fQPjaR-PwohoC0brw_wcB On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Sounds like you need some manner of CX tire. I've had good luck with the Clement MSO 700x40 tires but they would likely not fit on the Redwood. I believe there is a similar version in 700x35 (USH-something or rather). KJ On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 5:34:51 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX, route 2531 http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531 The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX and Lincoln, TX. A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for riding this stretch. I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois, one running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups. There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel and some paved stretches. Our back tires kept sliding sideways when we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would have to correct. Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of times it was close. It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires. What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end slide-outs on soft dirt and sand. But not so much tread that it digs itself into soft surfaces. The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42. It would fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time. I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them. Any suggestions? Must roll good on pavement as well. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?
I have WTB All Terrain 700 x 37 on my new ANT. I can't vouch for dirt performance, but they roll nice on pavement for the 10-20 mile rides I've done so far. I completely forget they're semi-knobby until I look under the front rack. http://www.wtb.com/products/all-terrain On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:34:51 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX, route 2531 http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531 The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX and Lincoln, TX. A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for riding this stretch. I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois, one running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups. There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel and some paved stretches. Our back tires kept sliding sideways when we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would have to correct. Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of times it was close. It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires. What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end slide-outs on soft dirt and sand. But not so much tread that it digs itself into soft surfaces. The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42. It would fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time. I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them. Any suggestions? Must roll good on pavement as well. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?
I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX, route 2531 http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531 The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX and Lincoln, TX. A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for riding this stretch. I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois, one running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups. There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel and some paved stretches. Our back tires kept sliding sideways when we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would have to correct. Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of times it was close. It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires. What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end slide-outs on soft dirt and sand. But not so much tread that it digs itself into soft surfaces. The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42. It would fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time. I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them. Any suggestions? Must roll good on pavement as well. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike
Its funny how a project evolves over time. I started this thread asking about replacing the Noodle bars on my Trek 520 with Albastache bars. Now, one day later, after reading a whole lot of comments here (and other places on the web), I think that I may do better going with Albatross bars rather than the 'stache bars. Here is my thinking. . . . A number of folks have commented that the 'stache bars put their hands forward in an aero position. This, to me, makes them sound like bars made for somewhat aggressive, go-fast riding. This is not what I want with my Trek. I already have two other bikes that fill the go-fast niche. I want my Trek to be different. It should be the grocery-getter; the bike that I ride to the library or on the bike path with my kids. The Trek should be a stop and smell the roses kind of bike. After doing some research, it seems as though the Albatross bars will be the best fit for this kind of riding. My thinking on this was heavily influenced by this post from our friend Pondero: How Albatross Bars Changed My Life https://pawndero.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/how-albatross-bars-changed-my-life/ Of course, making this conversion will require me to buy new brake levers as well. Riv has me covered there. I don't know about replacing them stem. I currently have a Nitto Technomic. However, this set up puts the bars several inches below the saddle, so perhaps I should replace the stem with a Dirt Drop stem or one of the Dead Stock stems that Riv. currently has available. All of this thinking makes my head spin sometimes. I wish it was warmer outside (and the roads were not covered with snow so that I could go for a nice relaxing bike ride. Sean On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:55:52 PM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote: I agree about the plugs. I've never gotten them to stay in long without a little adhesive. I have also seen that some of the Brooks tape colors fade due to sun exposure (badly in some cases). I haven't had this problem with the 9 year old honey tape. They've darkened nicely with age. John On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 8:39:48 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: Brooks leather bar tape isn't the same leather as the saddles (that would be much too thick, of course). It's thinner and has a wax treatment from the factory (which is noted in the accompanying paperwork, iirc) so it holds up pretty well without any treatment. However, I also use Obenauf's on the tape after it gets a little worn. I use Obenauf's on everything leather (though I also use silicone cream on my boots once a year). FYI, the black, brown, honey, and red Brooks tape is made in Italy, and all the other colors are made in China. The Brooks bar plugs fall out quickly, in my experience. Whiskey caps are a closer replacement to the Brooks plugs, but they don't stay in as positively as wine corks. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Surlyprof jmcc...@gmail.com wrote: I use the Obenauf's that Rivendell sells. Stuff is fantastic. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/goo13-tiny.htm John On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 8:29:24 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: Do you Proofide the bar tape? *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@ googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Surlyprof *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:28 AM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike I'm a big fan of Brooks tape which, of course, matches the honey saddle perfectly. They are expensive but I bought them after my third set of corks crapped out in less than a year. I bought one pack of Brooks 9 years ago and have moved them across three different handlebars. I only had to clean off a little of the adhesive with Goof-off. They feel great and age in a similar fashion as the seat (although not quite as quickly). The new-to-me Hillborne I recently purchased came with Albatross bars. I've thought about swapping them for Albastache bars because I miss having the mustache-style bars I had on a Surly. Initially, I have considered at least flipping them upside-down (as David said he tried) to achieve the more ergonomic down drop on the front curve. I fear I would lose the upright quality at the bar ends that is nice to have when commuting through the city. If I did switch to Albastache, I would probably go back to a shorter stem. 'Stache bars really increase the reach. Has anyone flipped Albatross bars over or is that just a ridiculous idea? As for the quicker steering on the 'stache bars, I believe that has more to do with the hand position being in front of the pivot point of the headset. More of your weight is further out so the steering action is more of releasing of your weight from one side to the other. It uses your weight more in the steering. With the upright bars such as the Albatross and Bosco, your hands are
RE: [RBW] Re: Too much on the plate.
MUBAR. Mannyed Up Beyond All Reason ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?
After doing some more reading and research, I have found that: The Clement Xplore MSO comes in 700x32 and 700x40 The Clement Xplore USH comes in 700x35 I think the USH is more what I have in mind, it has a smooth center section with the diamond shaped blocks on the edge. Here is a review that I found on the Clement site, the guy is a lot lighter than me but also carries a much bigger load: http://newenglandbicyclist.blogspot.com/2014/09/review-clement-ush-60-tpi.html Plus I found the 60 TPI tires on sale for $32, so there is that ;) On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, looks like the MSO comes in 700x32 too. Cool! I enjoy the tread pattern on the MSOs and they do roll well on pavement. KJ On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:45:54 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: Yes, I found the 700x35 version online, thanks. What is the difference between the regular folding tire and the Adventure tire? See: http://www.outsideoutfitters.com/p-24675-clement-xplor-clincher-tires.aspx?variantID=74424gclid=CjwKEAiAlvilBRC5ueCzkpXb4kgSJADxop1B_-hrXETBIefTSLRXuKZnbnVDzMWPXO3fQPjaR-PwohoC0brw_wcB On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like you need some manner of CX tire. I've had good luck with the Clement MSO 700x40 tires but they would likely not fit on the Redwood. I believe there is a similar version in 700x35 (USH-something or rather). KJ On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 5:34:51 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX, route 2531 http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531 The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX and Lincoln, TX. A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for riding this stretch. I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois, one running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups. There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel and some paved stretches. Our back tires kept sliding sideways when we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would have to correct. Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of times it was close. It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires. What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end slide-outs on soft dirt and sand. But not so much tread that it digs itself into soft surfaces. The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42. It would fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time. I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them. Any suggestions? Must roll good on pavement as well. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?
Sounds like you need some manner of CX tire. I've had good luck with the Clement MSO 700x40 tires but they would likely not fit on the Redwood. I believe there is a similar version in 700x35 (USH-something or rather). KJ On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 5:34:51 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX, route 2531 http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531 The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX and Lincoln, TX. A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for riding this stretch. I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois, one running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups. There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel and some paved stretches. Our back tires kept sliding sideways when we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would have to correct. Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of times it was close. It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires. What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end slide-outs on soft dirt and sand. But not so much tread that it digs itself into soft surfaces. The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42. It would fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time. I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them. Any suggestions? Must roll good on pavement as well. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Too much on the plate.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-E1yXDZvWGNs/VL7xKi5prqI/DC8/f8ciESmLJ9Q/s1600/SMAFU.jpg I found a SF Custom T-shirt place in SF. Here's what I came up with: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-E1yXDZvWGNs/VL7xKi5prqI/DC8/f8ciESmLJ9Q/s1600/SMAFU.jpg I generated a quote for 15 of them, for $240 plus shipping. $16 each. Haha On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 7:17:59 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: Yes! Sign me up for one. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:51:20 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: ##Bill logs onto cafe press to have *SMAFU* T-shirts printed## On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:47:14 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: SMAFU On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: I called into RBWHQ this morning to ask a technical question. Dave was all Sorry for the noise, Bill, it's situation Manny up in here. Apparently Manny and his motley crew had just rolled in from their overnighter. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: Time. Always the big factor. With the very limited amount of time in my life. A much needed time on the bike was important for the recharge. 40 miler ride with 6000 feet of climb AND overnight? Sure lets try to squeeze it in. New trails and private roads? Maybe 5ish hours including lunch. 7 hours later. We're still trying to find the car in the dark with no lights. 2 hours late. I'm grateful that good friend Ely could vouch for me. Tony from Silva cycles and Bridget from Palo Alto Bicycles join in on a quick overnight. Amazing ride and amazing overnight? I'm more grateful for the amazing fiancee that deals with me leaving the house for a bike ride and coming back only to leave again for an overnight. Pictures proved that Karl the Fog comes to Walnut Creek: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk7cGubY Manny Never enough time for everything Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?
Right on. Have fun :) On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I have WTB All Terrain 700 x 37 on my new ANT. I can't vouch for dirt performance, but they roll nice on pavement for the 10-20 mile rides I've done so far. I completely forget they're semi-knobby until I look under the front rack. http://www.wtb.com/products/all-terrain On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:34:51 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX, route 2531 http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531 The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX and Lincoln, TX. A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for riding this stretch. I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois, one running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups. There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel and some paved stretches. Our back tires kept sliding sideways when we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would have to correct. Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of times it was close. It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires. What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end slide-outs on soft dirt and sand. But not so much tread that it digs itself into soft surfaces. The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42. It would fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time. I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them. Any suggestions? Must roll good on pavement as well. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Too much on the plate.
That's pretty great. Too bad we don't have any ready art of someone pushing a bike up a hill On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-E1yXDZvWGNs/VL7xKi5prqI/DC8/f8ciESmLJ9Q/s1600/SMAFU.jpg I found a SF Custom T-shirt place in SF. Here's what I came up with: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-E1yXDZvWGNs/VL7xKi5prqI/DC8/f8ciESmLJ9Q/s1600/SMAFU.jpg I generated a quote for 15 of them, for $240 plus shipping. $16 each. Haha On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 7:17:59 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: Yes! Sign me up for one. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:51:20 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: ##Bill logs onto cafe press to have *SMAFU* T-shirts printed## On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:47:14 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: SMAFU On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote: I called into RBWHQ this morning to ask a technical question. Dave was all Sorry for the noise, Bill, it's situation Manny up in here. Apparently Manny and his motley crew had just rolled in from their overnighter. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 3:57:59 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: Time. Always the big factor. With the very limited amount of time in my life. A much needed time on the bike was important for the recharge. 40 miler ride with 6000 feet of climb AND overnight? Sure lets try to squeeze it in. New trails and private roads? Maybe 5ish hours including lunch. 7 hours later. We're still trying to find the car in the dark with no lights. 2 hours late. I'm grateful that good friend Ely could vouch for me. Tony from Silva cycles and Bridget from Palo Alto Bicycles join in on a quick overnight. Amazing ride and amazing overnight? I'm more grateful for the amazing fiancee that deals with me leaving the house for a bike ride and coming back only to leave again for an overnight. Pictures proved that Karl the Fog comes to Walnut Creek: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk7cGubY Manny Never enough time for everything Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Surprising Failure Today
Towards the end of my ride today, I heard a loud crunch and my Ram lurched to a stop. Didn't take long to figure out the cause. My Shimano Tiagra RD had separated into two pieces. The larger chunk with cable attached wrapped around the right chainstay and lodged in my spokes. The other piece remained bolted to the dropout. Fortunately, I was going very slowly at the time, so no damage was done to my wheel. I wasn't shifting at the time, just pedaling along. I was able to break the chain and remove the cable so I could at least roll my bike to where my wonderful wife rescued me. Surprising because the RD is only a couple of years old and has not suffered any tip-overs that might have damaged it. I took a couple of pictures of the fracture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/53546004@N07/16312803255/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/53546004@N07/16125257318/ Is it just me, or is this not uncommon? Off to shop for a new RD. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested
I run Compass 1.75 on one bike, 2.15 Big Ben's on another (how I ended up with two 26 inch bikes is a long story). I run both on mixed terrain, with good results. The Compass tires spin up faster, and I use them for day-long rides (75+ miles) with a mix of pavement and trails. The Big Bens will pretty much roll over anything, and I tend to use them where that will be helpful: think monster truck. rod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?
The Conti Cyclocross Speed is worth considering: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t108.htm I find it plenty grippy in dirt, and smooth on the road. Nice price for a good tire, too. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Too much on the plate.
What Mr. Chen said...that would be PERFECT. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?
Where did you find MSOs on sale? I've found them to be a great tire for me and want to get some more. To OP: If you can fit 'em, the MSOs are fantastic tires. Not slow at all and I obsess on tires a bit. If you want a bit smaller, and potentially a bit faster, don't forget about the Challenge Gravel Grinder. I love Challenge tires, and while never having used this model, I bet they're great. http://www.challengetech.it/products/gravel/gravel-grinder-053/en If you want the narrower 32mm version, the Almanzo is your ticket: http://www.challengetech.it/products/gravel/almanzo-041/en The Almanzo and GG are probably faster but less grippy in the dirt than the MSO and USH. Their side knobs are fairly petite. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: After doing some more reading and research, I have found that: The Clement Xplore MSO comes in 700x32 and 700x40 The Clement Xplore USH comes in 700x35 I think the USH is more what I have in mind, it has a smooth center section with the diamond shaped blocks on the edge. Here is a review that I found on the Clement site, the guy is a lot lighter than me but also carries a much bigger load: http://newenglandbicyclist.blogspot.com/2014/09/review-clement-ush-60-tpi.html Plus I found the 60 TPI tires on sale for $32, so there is that ;) On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, looks like the MSO comes in 700x32 too. Cool! I enjoy the tread pattern on the MSOs and they do roll well on pavement. KJ On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 6:45:54 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: Yes, I found the 700x35 version online, thanks. What is the difference between the regular folding tire and the Adventure tire? See: http://www.outsideoutfitters.com/p-24675-clement-xplor-clincher-tires.aspx?variantID=74424gclid=CjwKEAiAlvilBRC5ueCzkpXb4kgSJADxop1B_-hrXETBIefTSLRXuKZnbnVDzMWPXO3fQPjaR-PwohoC0brw_wcB On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like you need some manner of CX tire. I've had good luck with the Clement MSO 700x40 tires but they would likely not fit on the Redwood. I believe there is a similar version in 700x35 (USH-something or rather). KJ On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 5:34:51 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX, route 2531 http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531 The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX and Lincoln, TX. A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for riding this stretch. I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois, one running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups. There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel and some paved stretches. Our back tires kept sliding sideways when we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would have to correct. Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of times it was close. It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires. What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end slide-outs on soft dirt and sand. But not so much tread that it digs itself into soft surfaces. The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42. It would fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time. I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them. Any suggestions? Must roll good on pavement as well. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit
[RBW] Re: Surprising Failure Today
What JP said...I tend to figure you get what you pay for. Though I figure Grant and Co did their due diligence on the big wheel Altus rear D. So glad you came out unscathed. ~Hugh Los Angeles, CA On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 2:56:14 PM UTC-8, John wrote: Towards the end of my ride today, I heard a loud crunch and my Ram lurched to a stop. Didn't take long to figure out the cause. My Shimano Tiagra RD had separated into two pieces. The larger chunk with cable attached wrapped around the right chainstay and lodged in my spokes. The other piece remained bolted to the dropout. Fortunately, I was going very slowly at the time, so no damage was done to my wheel. I wasn't shifting at the time, just pedaling along. I was able to break the chain and remove the cable so I could at least roll my bike to where my wonderful wife rescued me. Surprising because the RD is only a couple of years old and has not suffered any tip-overs that might have damaged it. I took a couple of pictures of the fracture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/53546004@N07/16312803255/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/53546004@N07/16125257318/ Is it just me, or is this not uncommon? Off to shop for a new RD. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: GrandBois tires on sale at Grandbois
The ordering process was the same for me. I got my tires in less than 36 hours to receive, not bad service for free shipping. Another plus was the mailman came when my wife wasn't home. : ) They look nice, but i am going to wait till I need new tires to mount them. I bought them because I couldn't pass on the sale. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB: IRD Stem shifter mount
I'm stem-shifter curious. If you have one of those stem shifter mount things that you aren't using, then please let me know. Off-list please - sheesh have some decency, right? ;) -Aaron Young The Dalles, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: GrandBois tires on sale at Grandbois
Mine weighed about 240 grams on my kitchen scale. The yen has really tanked compared to the dollar, so it is a good time to buy things from Japan now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: OT: Cut a corner off my Unracer card -- I raced!
Dear Tim, Congratulations! It sounds like a great day outside. There's a card? Besides, What is more unracer than racing? Consider the following. Tying into the eat bacon, don't bonk thread, short-ish racing efforts (especially criterium racing and CX racing, shockingly enough) are a whole lot closer to the HIIT exercises and Tabata sprints touted for the unracing crowd than the moderate long-distance riding most of us do for fun. Consider: Criterium: Bug-eyed for a minute or so at the start, settle into the rhythm and recover if you're near the front, or get cross-eyed four times a minute if you're in the back and having to hammer out of every corner; get redlined for a minute or so to establish a break, a few minutes criss-crossing into the red to hold off the charging pack, then see purple stars for fifteen seconds at the sprint, recover gently? All in under an hour. Cyclocross: Bug-eyed for fifteen seconds or so at the start, floating in red haze and for a few seconds on the runups and barriers (so eight or ten times in 45min, tunnel-vision on the finishing straight for ten seconds or so, recover gently. I'd keep the corner of your card. Cheers, Will William M. deRosset Fort Collins, CO On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 10:28:27 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: (Off-topic due to no Riv content, but an Unracer discussion kinda fits in.) I competed in my first race ever this Sunday, so I guess I should cut a corner off my unracer card as penalty. :) The Triple D winter endurance race is 63 miles (100k) of gnarly snowmobile trail single track, B-roads, and the crushed lime Heritage Trail outside of Dubuque, IA. It was 40F, and the surface conditions ranged from sloppy to extra sloppy. 95% of the riders (including myself) chose fat bikes. Steve (owner/operator of Thirtieth Century bikes in Iowa City) is friends with Ira Ryan and rode a rigid steel Breadwinner 29er single speed. I took comfortable breaks to warm up and chose a relatively sane pace, so my time was near the bottom of the finishers at 8:45. Considering that almost half of the riders don't finish the race (there is an associated poker tour you can flex to if you drop out of the race proper), I feel very proud for finishing at all! Overall, a challenging but fun experience. The race concept did act as a motivator to push myself a little harder, but I wasn't aiming for a place. I was racing the sun more than any other rider, and I still got in long after dark. Riv-ish accessories: Brooks flyer, Crane bell, German mirror, Aardvark saddle cover. I have to clean and re-wax the Brooks, as the elastic saddle cover disappeared really early in the race. Tim Gavin Cedar Rapids, IA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: GrandBois tires on sale at Grandbois
Just now, their website brings up a message that Google translates as: *Visit us, thank you.* *Currently, because of maintenance by the server providers,* *Not permitted access to temporary shops.* *Because it is a plan that can sometimes access 8 am,* *Although Excuse me, again, as you can visit us* *Thank you.* Looks like I'll need to try again later! David Lipsky Berkeley On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 8:39:44 PM UTC-8, frenchosa wrote: I just ordered GrandBois Extra Leger tires for for 32 each...about 1/2 price of what they are selling for in the States http://www.cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/T700_F28_EL.html I live in Japan, but it looks like they do international shipping. Michael Osaka, Japan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Lon Haldeman's Rivendell
In mid-2002 when I ordered my Rivendell custom, the standard fork crown is on the Rivendell in the background. When I received the bike, the fork crown was the same as on Lon's green bike. I called Rivendell and was told that I had received the custom cut fork crown at no extra charge. I offered to pay the upcharge but they refused. (Just another example of Rivendell's great customer focus.) The custom cut fork crown eventually became standard on the customs and most of the other models. I still think it's one of the prettiest fork crowns out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: A bike for Mom
The bike looks great. What a nice labor of love for your mom. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB front rack... Nitto, Pass and Stow, etc
Took advantage of the end of the year coupon and was able to pick up a 62 Hillborne a few weeks ago. I have it pretty dialed in so far but i'm in need of front rack. I usually carry a fair amount of junk in a basket up front so the bike feels a bit naked at the moment and my saddlebag is stuffed. I prefer the look of a mark's rack or pass and stow up front but would consider a nitto big front rack or something similar. anybody have something to get rid of? thanks in advance, james -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surprising Failure Today
Porous metallurgy? That looks pretty bad. On Jan 20, 2015 8:03 PM, John lindbergj...@hotmail.com wrote: Towards the end of my ride today, I heard a loud crunch and my Ram lurched to a stop. Didn't take long to figure out the cause. My Shimano Tiagra RD had separated into two pieces. The larger chunk with cable attached wrapped around the right chainstay and lodged in my spokes. The other piece remained bolted to the dropout. Fortunately, I was going very slowly at the time, so no damage was done to my wheel. I wasn't shifting at the time, just pedaling along. I was able to break the chain and remove the cable so I could at least roll my bike to where my wonderful wife rescued me. Surprising because the RD is only a couple of years old and has not suffered any tip-overs that might have damaged it. I took a couple of pictures of the fracture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/53546004@N07/16312803255/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/53546004@N07/16125257318/ Is it just me, or is this not uncommon? Off to shop for a new RD. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested
Dear Hugh, I bought a pair in March of 2014 for my Atlantis. They replaced a set of Big Apples 26x 2.1(?). The Compass seem faster but I have no data to confirm that. The compass ride as nicely as the Big Apples. I have about a 1000 miles on them and have not gotten one flat. (I really hate writing that...fate and all) I ride suburban/urban streets, paved bike paths, and some gravel trails. They handled those surfaces fine, perhaps a bit more sure footed on the dirt than the Big Apples. I rode them today and was pleased not to see any sidewall cracking yet. They do measure I believe closer to 1.60 than 1.75; someone else will verify/revise that I am sure. All in all nice tires that are well suited for how and where I ride. I will buy another pair when these wear out. I did buy the tubes that Compass recommends along with the tires. Purchasing through Compass was fast and painless. Hope that helps, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested
Hugh, another option is the 26 x 1.75 Pasela. The 1.75 model has beefier tread than the thinner Pasela's and would do great for mixed terrain. The TG model would be a great touring tire. I've done quite a bit of off-road on the 700 x 37 version that has the same heavier tread. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Parts Purge Continues
My seatpost came in today, thanks Peter! On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I really understand that people are frustrated, and I am truly sorry. but yes its been the month from hell for me too. Actually just got back from ER with my daughter who got the Flu, 105 fever, its really bad here in OCNY. The frame and box o parts for another person came back yesterday for insufficient postage. I love my wife but she just never does this kind of stuff and was trying to help me out. Frame and box o parts are going out priority tomorrow by my hands. My wife and daughter are staying with my mom as I am the only one not with the flu for the time being. Again, I am very sorry to keep people waiting, it isn't out of dishonesty or some ulterior motive, its just been a shitty few weeks/month Doc said I might not ride again until the spring if they cant get rid of my fluid in lungs so probably gonna be off the list after I get these shipping issues dealt with as its depressing to read about great ridesstay healthy everyone. I will be in touch tomorrow with tracking for various people but feel free to email me off list if you have a specific issue. Thanks On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: You're bumping the thread to complain about an issue that's already been explained? The dude ended up in the hospital; this is not usually a planned (or welcomed) occurrence. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTT: 57cm Canti Hilsen for 56 Atlantis
It's obvious now, I am just not right in the head, so I'll spare the tale. Bottom line...I want fat tires. Period. So yes. A 57 Hilsen made by Waterford, with canti mounts added by Avery Co Cycles, and just freshly painted by Spectrum. All tip top and mint like. At minimum...a bone stock 56cm Atlantis green frame, fork and comparable headset (dura ace). If its got an abundance of beausage, but no dents or damage, maybe some extra trade love my way? An Albatross bar? Cambium? Willing to swap wheels if need be. I have a few sets of tires too. The m-bar I'd like to keep, but have a Noodle I could swap for an Albatross. If its tempting, drop a line and we'll discuss details. hbclick (located at) yahoo.com I suppose people here know who I am and can vouch for be trusty. You should too. Heres a pic: https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/15980402446/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surprising Failure Today
Glad no damage to you. I haven't used Tiagra, but Sora triple front derailleurs I've had have also just broken. Same failure more than once, the metal arm that holds the spring just snapped. (I obviously don't save money by baying Sora anymore.) I like Shimano a lot, especially LX, but the mid-to-low-priced road derailleurs are showing a pattern that's not so good. On Jan 18, 2015, at 2:56 PM, John wrote: Towards the end of my ride today, I heard a loud crunch and my Ram lurched to a stop. Didn't take long to figure out the cause. My Shimano Tiagra RD had separated into two pieces. The larger chunk with cable attached wrapped around the right chainstay and lodged in my spokes. The other piece remained bolted to the dropout. Fortunately, I was going very slowly at the time, so no damage was done to my wheel. I wasn't shifting at the time, just pedaling along. I was able to break the chain and remove the cable so I could at least roll my bike to where my wonderful wife rescued me. Surprising because the RD is only a couple of years old and has not suffered any tip-overs that might have damaged it. I took a couple of pictures of the fracture: https://www.flickr.com/photos/53546004@N07/16312803255/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/53546004@N07/16125257318/ Is it just me, or is this not uncommon? Off to shop for a new RD. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Surprising Failure Today
I'm glad nothing else was damaged and you weren't roaring downhill in traffic! My wife has experience casting non-ferrous metals, and she wasn't surprised by the apparent variation in density in the photos. Kind scary... John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?
Have you considered the 700x40 Clement MSO? They make something in 38 too. Depending on your rim you might be able to fit them on there. The MSOs are pretty sweet tires. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX, route 2531 http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531 The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX and Lincoln, TX. A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for riding this stretch. I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois, one running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups. There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel and some paved stretches. Our back tires kept sliding sideways when we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would have to correct. Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of times it was close. It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires. What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end slide-outs on soft dirt and sand. But not so much tread that it digs itself into soft surfaces. The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42. It would fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time. I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them. Any suggestions? Must roll good on pavement as well. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?
Rims on the Redwood are 700c Synergy in the front and Sun CR-18 in the back. 23-24mm type rims, wide but not Blunt wide. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Have you considered the 700x40 Clement MSO? They make something in 38 too. Depending on your rim you might be able to fit them on there. The MSOs are pretty sweet tires. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I own a 200K RUSA permanent that goes from Austin to Lincoln, TX, route 2531 http://www.rusa.org./cgi-bin/permview_GF.pl?permid=2531 The first time I rode this with a few friends, there was quite a bit more dirt than we were expecting on the stretch between McDade, TX and Lincoln, TX. A 32-38mm slick was not really ideal equipment for riding this stretch. I had one friend riding 700x32mm Grand Bois, one running 700x32mm Stampede Pass and me running 650x38mm LoupLoups. There was quite a bit of sand and soft dirt, along with some gravel and some paved stretches. Our back tires kept sliding sideways when we were trying to ride through the soft dirt and sand, and we would have to correct. Thankfully none of us went down, but a couple of times it was close. It was worse for my friends on the 32s than for me but it still felt real squirrely on the wider tires. What I really want for this ride is something that rolls good on pavement but has some tread to it in order to prevent the rear end slide-outs on soft dirt and sand. But not so much tread that it digs itself into soft surfaces. The Soma Cazadero would be about perfect I think. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/cazadero-tires-700c650b-x-42mm BUT...my Redwood has 700C wheels and will not fit 700x42. It would fit 650Bx42 but I have not converted it at this time. I think 700Cx38 would probably fit if I removed the fenders, which I would probably want to do anyway as to not get mud stuck up in them. Any suggestions? Must roll good on pavement as well. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike
If your goal is an around town errand runner, I don't think you can go wrong with the Albatross. It's great in the city raising you up and back. I also had a set of Bosco's but they just seemed too high for my liking and there really isn't a second hand position that works for me (I only bought them to take pressure off an injured shoulder which it did by raising me way up). If you don't want the second hand position and don't want to buy another stem, the Bosco will get you up much higher. You may still need to buy another stem just to add length as the Albatross and Bosco bring the hands back to where they could bump knees if you're not careful. John On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 4:26:37 PM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: Its funny how a project evolves over time. I started this thread asking about replacing the Noodle bars on my Trek 520 with Albastache bars. Now, one day later, after reading a whole lot of comments here (and other places on the web), I think that I may do better going with Albatross bars rather than the 'stache bars. Here is my thinking. . . . A number of folks have commented that the 'stache bars put their hands forward in an aero position. This, to me, makes them sound like bars made for somewhat aggressive, go-fast riding. This is not what I want with my Trek. I already have two other bikes that fill the go-fast niche. I want my Trek to be different. It should be the grocery-getter; the bike that I ride to the library or on the bike path with my kids. The Trek should be a stop and smell the roses kind of bike. After doing some research, it seems as though the Albatross bars will be the best fit for this kind of riding. My thinking on this was heavily influenced by this post from our friend Pondero: How Albatross Bars Changed My Life https://pawndero.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/how-albatross-bars-changed-my-life/ Of course, making this conversion will require me to buy new brake levers as well. Riv has me covered there. I don't know about replacing them stem. I currently have a Nitto Technomic. However, this set up puts the bars several inches below the saddle, so perhaps I should replace the stem with a Dirt Drop stem or one of the Dead Stock stems that Riv. currently has available. All of this thinking makes my head spin sometimes. I wish it was warmer outside (and the roads were not covered with snow so that I could go for a nice relaxing bike ride. Sean On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:55:52 PM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote: I agree about the plugs. I've never gotten them to stay in long without a little adhesive. I have also seen that some of the Brooks tape colors fade due to sun exposure (badly in some cases). I haven't had this problem with the 9 year old honey tape. They've darkened nicely with age. John On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 8:39:48 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: Brooks leather bar tape isn't the same leather as the saddles (that would be much too thick, of course). It's thinner and has a wax treatment from the factory (which is noted in the accompanying paperwork, iirc) so it holds up pretty well without any treatment. However, I also use Obenauf's on the tape after it gets a little worn. I use Obenauf's on everything leather (though I also use silicone cream on my boots once a year). FYI, the black, brown, honey, and red Brooks tape is made in Italy, and all the other colors are made in China. The Brooks bar plugs fall out quickly, in my experience. Whiskey caps are a closer replacement to the Brooks plugs, but they don't stay in as positively as wine corks. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Surlyprof jmcc...@gmail.com wrote: I use the Obenauf's that Rivendell sells. Stuff is fantastic. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/goo13-tiny.htm John On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 8:29:24 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: Do you Proofide the bar tape? *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@ googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Surlyprof *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:28 AM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike I'm a big fan of Brooks tape which, of course, matches the honey saddle perfectly. They are expensive but I bought them after my third set of corks crapped out in less than a year. I bought one pack of Brooks 9 years ago and have moved them across three different handlebars. I only had to clean off a little of the adhesive with Goof-off. They feel great and age in a similar fashion as the seat (although not quite as quickly). The new-to-me Hillborne I recently purchased came with Albatross bars. I've thought about swapping them for Albastache bars because I miss having the mustache-style bars I had on a Surly. Initially, I have considered at least flipping them upside-down (as David said he tried) to achieve the
Re: [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike
Great, now I'll throw in another option for an upright 26.0 handlebar! Jitensha bar. Its a very good upright bar and great for getting around town while still being upright like the albatross, and not as aggressive as the albastache. I have it on a recent Quickbeam build and am very happy with them. They would work well with your 26.0 stem which I think is what you said you had, and they're pretty cheap, but you would still need mtn bike levers w/ them. They also sweep back enough to make them versatile with a stem that could be too long. Just a thought. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:26 PM, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote: Its funny how a project evolves over time. I started this thread asking about replacing the Noodle bars on my Trek 520 with Albastache bars. Now, one day later, after reading a whole lot of comments here (and other places on the web), I think that I may do better going with Albatross bars rather than the 'stache bars. Here is my thinking. . . . A number of folks have commented that the 'stache bars put their hands forward in an aero position. This, to me, makes them sound like bars made for somewhat aggressive, go-fast riding. This is not what I want with my Trek. I already have two other bikes that fill the go-fast niche. I want my Trek to be different. It should be the grocery-getter; the bike that I ride to the library or on the bike path with my kids. The Trek should be a stop and smell the roses kind of bike. After doing some research, it seems as though the Albatross bars will be the best fit for this kind of riding. My thinking on this was heavily influenced by this post from our friend Pondero: How Albatross Bars Changed My Life https://pawndero.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/how-albatross-bars-changed-my-life/ Of course, making this conversion will require me to buy new brake levers as well. Riv has me covered there. I don't know about replacing them stem. I currently have a Nitto Technomic. However, this set up puts the bars several inches below the saddle, so perhaps I should replace the stem with a Dirt Drop stem or one of the Dead Stock stems that Riv. currently has available. All of this thinking makes my head spin sometimes. I wish it was warmer outside (and the roads were not covered with snow so that I could go for a nice relaxing bike ride. Sean On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:55:52 PM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote: I agree about the plugs. I've never gotten them to stay in long without a little adhesive. I have also seen that some of the Brooks tape colors fade due to sun exposure (badly in some cases). I haven't had this problem with the 9 year old honey tape. They've darkened nicely with age. John On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 8:39:48 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: Brooks leather bar tape isn't the same leather as the saddles (that would be much too thick, of course). It's thinner and has a wax treatment from the factory (which is noted in the accompanying paperwork, iirc) so it holds up pretty well without any treatment. However, I also use Obenauf's on the tape after it gets a little worn. I use Obenauf's on everything leather (though I also use silicone cream on my boots once a year). FYI, the black, brown, honey, and red Brooks tape is made in Italy, and all the other colors are made in China. The Brooks bar plugs fall out quickly, in my experience. Whiskey caps are a closer replacement to the Brooks plugs, but they don't stay in as positively as wine corks. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Surlyprof jmcc...@gmail.com wrote: I use the Obenauf's that Rivendell sells. Stuff is fantastic. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/goo13-tiny.htm John On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 8:29:24 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: Do you Proofide the bar tape? *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegrou ps.com] *On Behalf Of *Surlyprof *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:28 AM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike I'm a big fan of Brooks tape which, of course, matches the honey saddle perfectly. They are expensive but I bought them after my third set of corks crapped out in less than a year. I bought one pack of Brooks 9 years ago and have moved them across three different handlebars. I only had to clean off a little of the adhesive with Goof-off. They feel great and age in a similar fashion as the seat (although not quite as quickly). The new-to-me Hillborne I recently purchased came with Albatross bars. I've thought about swapping them for Albastache bars because I miss having the mustache-style bars I had on a Surly. Initially, I have considered at least flipping them upside-down (as David said he tried) to achieve the more ergonomic down drop on the front curve. I fear I would lose the upright quality at the bar ends that is nice to have when commuting through the city. If I did
[RBW] Compass 26 × 1.75 Feedback requested
Hi Bunch, Has anyone had experience with the above tires? If yes how do they compare to the Big Ben's? The compass weigh in at 440g which are light and I presume would roll fast. I wonder how they'd handle mixed terrain? How they hold up over time? In advance thanks for your thoughts. Cheers, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: GrandBois tires on sale at Grandbois
On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 3:40:32 PM UTC-8, Minh wrote: It's amazing that these guys will discount them so heavily only being 10% off on weight! they've could've called them 'leger' instead of 'extra leger'! Grand Bois is getting a new shipment, and don't want to create confusion. Adding an SKU to the shop is a major administrative task, and if you have limited numbers, it's easier to just sell them at a discount and clear the shelves. I actually prefer the current tires, as the new ones will revert to the dry-feeling casing that the first Extra-Legers used. We had too many issues with them fraying, but perhaps we ride them harder than many Japanese cyclotourists... Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Industries Paloma Handlebar bag/ hardly used with Klick Flix mount system
THIS BAG WENT FAST. IT'S BEEN SOLD. THANKS FOR VIEWING. On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 10:56:04 AM UTC-8, Rod C wrote: I bought this custom made Swift Industries Bar bag and never found a home for it. I had planned to use it on my road bike but ended up with a different setup. This bag was mounted and ridden twice. Yes, that's it. It has the deluxe Waxed Canvas charcoal colored material that was an upcharge. I also have the Rixen Kaul Klick Flix mounting system with clamps for either a 26.0 sized bar or a 31.8. I'm selling it because I'm not using it. I have another setup where I'm using a large Swift Industries Ozette Rando bag with decauleur. I may be selling that soon as well as I need more room than the bag can accomodate. Anyhow, photos of the Paloma are attached. It's in great shape sorry my photos aren't that good but the bag is clean. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4sPzD7wsCro/VL6kP8vgphI/D5Y/rECowclTmSM/s1600/IMG_9611.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-un4ZuWQmh94/VL6kSCxU6DI/D5g/yu9ZmxyjLC4/s1600/IMG_9612.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LEtl6gtL5-A/VL6kTz890-I/D5o/hSyFncmRjTI/s1600/IMG_9613.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BSMnhPTfTOY/VL6kN5UX3iI/D5Q/NtxLdYiCByc/s1600/IMG_9610.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Swift Industries Paloma Handlebar bag/ hardly used with Klick Flix mount system
I knew a friend who wanted one and well I want to be the bike version of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Hj7bp38f8 On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Rod C rodc...@gmail.com wrote: THIS BAG WENT FAST. IT'S BEEN SOLD. THANKS FOR VIEWING. On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 10:56:04 AM UTC-8, Rod C wrote: I bought this custom made Swift Industries Bar bag and never found a home for it. I had planned to use it on my road bike but ended up with a different setup. This bag was mounted and ridden twice. Yes, that's it. It has the deluxe Waxed Canvas charcoal colored material that was an upcharge. I also have the Rixen Kaul Klick Flix mounting system with clamps for either a 26.0 sized bar or a 31.8. I'm selling it because I'm not using it. I have another setup where I'm using a large Swift Industries Ozette Rando bag with decauleur. I may be selling that soon as well as I need more room than the bag can accomodate. Anyhow, photos of the Paloma are attached. It's in great shape sorry my photos aren't that good but the bag is clean. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4sPzD7wsCro/VL6kP8vgphI/D5Y/rECowclTmSM/s1600/IMG_9611.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-un4ZuWQmh94/VL6kSCxU6DI/D5g/yu9ZmxyjLC4/s1600/IMG_9612.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LEtl6gtL5-A/VL6kTz890-I/D5o/hSyFncmRjTI/s1600/IMG_9613.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BSMnhPTfTOY/VL6kN5UX3iI/D5Q/NtxLdYiCByc/s1600/IMG_9610.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike
I agree about the plugs. I've never gotten them to stay in long without a little adhesive. I have also seen that some of the Brooks tape colors fade due to sun exposure (badly in some cases). I haven't had this problem with the 9 year old honey tape. They've darkened nicely with age. John On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 8:39:48 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: Brooks leather bar tape isn't the same leather as the saddles (that would be much too thick, of course). It's thinner and has a wax treatment from the factory (which is noted in the accompanying paperwork, iirc) so it holds up pretty well without any treatment. However, I also use Obenauf's on the tape after it gets a little worn. I use Obenauf's on everything leather (though I also use silicone cream on my boots once a year). FYI, the black, brown, honey, and red Brooks tape is made in Italy, and all the other colors are made in China. The Brooks bar plugs fall out quickly, in my experience. Whiskey caps are a closer replacement to the Brooks plugs, but they don't stay in as positively as wine corks. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Surlyprof jmcc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I use the Obenauf's that Rivendell sells. Stuff is fantastic. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/goo13-tiny.htm John On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 8:29:24 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: Do you Proofide the bar tape? *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@ googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Surlyprof *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:28 AM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Noodle to Albastache Swap - Trek 520 Touring Bike I'm a big fan of Brooks tape which, of course, matches the honey saddle perfectly. They are expensive but I bought them after my third set of corks crapped out in less than a year. I bought one pack of Brooks 9 years ago and have moved them across three different handlebars. I only had to clean off a little of the adhesive with Goof-off. They feel great and age in a similar fashion as the seat (although not quite as quickly). The new-to-me Hillborne I recently purchased came with Albatross bars. I've thought about swapping them for Albastache bars because I miss having the mustache-style bars I had on a Surly. Initially, I have considered at least flipping them upside-down (as David said he tried) to achieve the more ergonomic down drop on the front curve. I fear I would lose the upright quality at the bar ends that is nice to have when commuting through the city. If I did switch to Albastache, I would probably go back to a shorter stem. 'Stache bars really increase the reach. Has anyone flipped Albatross bars over or is that just a ridiculous idea? As for the quicker steering on the 'stache bars, I believe that has more to do with the hand position being in front of the pivot point of the headset. More of your weight is further out so the steering action is more of releasing of your weight from one side to the other. It uses your weight more in the steering. With the upright bars such as the Albatross and Bosco, your hands are more in line with that pivot point and less of your weight is on the bars. Steering becomes more of a push/pull relationship. At least that's what I've been able to surmise from a basic ergonomic comparison between the drops, bosco, albatross and older mustache bars I've had. This is also why I think that flipping the Albatross bars will not achieve a similar feel of my old mustache bars. Hi, I'm John and I'm a bar-swap addict. On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 8:08:47 AM UTC-8, SeanMac wrote: Hi folks, I am contemplating a winter project that would convert an early 1990 Trek 520 touring bike into an around town grocery getter and/or bike trail, easy cruising bike. My plan is to swap out the Noodle bars on my Trek for Albastache bars. From what I have read, this looks to be a pretty easy conversion. The bar end shifters that I have on the Noodles should work on the Albastache bars. I should also be able to swap over the brake levers from the Noodle to the Alnbastache (I've got the original levers - non-aero, non-brifters). Is there something that I am missing? Will be cable lengths be similar or will I likely need new cables? For as long as I can remember, every bike that I have ever ridden has used drop bars, so I contemplate this shift with both excitement and a bit of apprehension. After all, why mess with something that works? On the other hand, I think that this conversion will bring new life to a bike that does not get used very often. One other thought, what color Newbaum tape do you suggest to best match an Brooks B-17 honey saddle that has some years on it? Thanks for your thoughts. Sean EA, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW
