Re: CS>Carb Blockers and Lymph

[Deborah Gerard]

To help drain my lymphs I have put eight inch blocks at the head of my 
bed...incline theraphy I think it's called...debbie

Dee  wrote:v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}  
v\:* {   BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)  }  Thanks for that Rowena, I 
don't really know although I don't seem to have any sort of swellings.  I get a 
sort of tenderness under the arms when touched sometimes but have been told 
this is normal.  I must say since I've been taking the iodoral I have had much 
more energy, but apart from this blasted weight problem I seem to have quite 
good health.  I do take CS most days as well so rarely get ill.  I will 
certainly check this site though. Dee  
   
  ---Original Message---
   
  Typically, people assume that overeating is the cause.
   
  There is an interesting site - rather encouraging, too - on
  www.poppylaneclinic.com.au
  Poppy Lane Skin Care & Lymphoedema Clinic  139 Hollywood Drive Lansvale NSW
  2166 Australia (02) 9723 5402
   
  http://www.lymph.com.au/webcontent14.htm
   
   


   
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Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?

[Deborah Gerard]

I would get rid of those fillings as fast as I could they are the reason for 
alot of illness. One more thing to add about the h202...I have a grandchild 
that had a head cold over the weekend and I had her lay on her side and put 
several drops into her ear canal untill it stopped fizzing in both ears...she 
was fine by the time she went home Saturday night...debbie

Rebecca Thomas  wrote:  Several years ago I began 
treating my mouth with peroxide after brushing
my teeth at night. When I went to the dentist he found no cavities &
asked what I'd been doing. He said 'It's working GREAT, keep it up!!!"
I have several amalgam fllings.

Becca

Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 12:45:31 -0400
From: Marshall Dudley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?

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Re: CS>aspirin

[Cinder Ella]

A pilot friend of mine said he experienced this and when he searched out the 
reason for it he found it was the hamburger he had earlier.  Apparently all 
these fast food burger places spray their lettuce with something so it won't 
wilt so fast.  He was allergic to this and developed this wierd tunnel vision 
for short periods.  Also he said as a pilot some major airlines demand that 
their pilots do not eat any amount of aspartame or any other fake sweetener as 
it causes problems big time.  So you guys with your pizza and pop (non-diet) 
don't get me started on aspartame.  That stuff is deadly.
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Dee 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 12:42:18 PM
Subject: Re: CS>aspirin

This is *very* similar to what I had.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: 04/09/07 17:00:18
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>aspirin
 
There is a pretty good animation of what one is like at
http://www.knownjohnson.com/?p=73
 
Mine was more jagged, with triangular points facing in, like sharks
teeth, and was black and not in color, but this is a pretty good simulation.
 
 
 
Marshall


  

Re: CS>another cause of all new diseases.... Bisphenol A

[Vwolf21]

 
In a message dated 4/9/2007 8:22:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
saffiresk...@yahoo.com writes:

Sigh...OKso no news is good news. Can  anyone give a heads up on how this 
typical  bottle brings its goods.  Soda, juice, water, etc.

***I am wondering that also...We get our water from a Spring Bottleing 
Company...I guess I better get some info on the plastic the water is bottled 
in.  V.



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Re: CS>Blood sugar, weight loss, etc./ Terri

[Vwolf21]

In a message dated 4/9/2007 9:23:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Vwolf21 writes:

 
Hi ..I didn't include all of the text because I assumed everyone has read it.
And probably copied it out   as I have.
Terri...are you a Naturapathic Dr.?
How is it you know so much?
You have Clients?
I would be interested in working with you...from the post you sent...you 
appear to know a great deal about how the body functions.
Maybe we can sort my system out and get it running properly again.
Please send me info on what it is you do and what you charge...thanks..V



 
*Terri...I tried twice to send this to your personal mailbox but it 
wouldnt go thru.
I used the address of _tcj...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:tcj...@yahoo.com) 
So I am taking a chance and sending it to the silver list in the hopes you 
see it there and will reply ...let me know what I am doing wrong?  



In a message dated 4/9/2007 6:38:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tcj...@yahoo.ca 
writes:

V said,
> I have hyperinsulinism <

Dee said,
> [People think]...when you are this sort of weight,
that you must be stuffing your face secretly, but I
can assure you this is not true.  And when I do starve
and lose a few pounds, if I deviate one little bit
from the starvation mode, then I pile it on again and
more! <

Both of these issues can be addressed in similar ways.
Let me comment on them one point at a time.






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Re: CS>Carb Blockers

[Carol Ann]

LOLIf'n I go for a pizza, I'm going for the whole sugar and salt combo 
monty.a cold (non diet) coke over ice. 

Clayton Family  wrote: Hey, watch it! I need to get more 
diet soda and pizza!

On Apr 9, 2007, at 7:10 PM, Carol Ann wrote:

> In your situation as you describe it, neither would I.  However, there 
> are folks who would consider carb blockers as a means to overindulge 
> in foods they would other wise avoid or eat much less of as part of 
> their regular, low weight diets.
>
> Kinda like folks who order a pizza with the works or a whopper and 
> fries and wash it down with a  diet soda.
>
> Marshall Dudley  wrote:


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RE: CS>question

[john freese]

Dee  wrote:v\:* {behavior:url (#default#vml);}  
v\:* {   BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)  }  It isn't so difficult 
really, all I'm asking is 'what is an anti-biotic?' I know that it means 
'against life' but I do not know what it is or how it works.  Dee  
   
  ---Original Message---
   
From: Dan Nave
  Date: 09/04/2007 18:18:02
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CS>question

   
  The answer is stated in terms of the question.
   
  You need to rephrase the question to something that makes some sort of 
sense...
   
  Dan
   
   
  This is how antibiotics work.
  http://health.howstuffworks.com/question88.htm



 
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Re: CS>Re: weight loss/Kevin Trudeau

[Carol Ann]

My mother has all his books. She was prescribed Statins.  When she showed her 
doctor one of his bookshe called Trudeau a quack.Great 
compliment...imho.  She's off the Statins and plavax. 

Upon reading Trudeau I tried to find some "NEW" epiphany contained therein..but 
couldn't.   I'd say though that he's is doing a fantastic job and public 
service re educating mainstream consumers who don't have a clue as to the 
difference between sat/non sat fats/oils, folks who are still using corn oil 
and eating white bread as main staples.
I especially like his position re medicines main objective.money...hand 
over fist vs good health.

Agreed, didn't like his website regrading the credit card newsletter business 
when I checked it out due to having heard similar complaints from people 
elsewhere.  

Cinder Ella  wrote: I have almost every book from Kevin 
Trudeau including his Mega Memory book when he first started out.  Were they 
what he said they were?  NO.  I also subscribed to his website for over a year. 
 Was it what he said it would be?  NO.  Would I do it all over again?  
Probably.  Will I continue to purchase his books?  NO!  I have also stopped 
subscription to his website and have heard from others that they tried to stop 
their subscription and their pleas fell on deaf ears.  They can't get off (at 
least 3 people I know) and they had to go and change their credit card numbers 
to stop him.  One person I know bought his diet book (although a part of that 
comes with one of his regular  books which I have and didn't find particularly 
helpful, like the rest of his books) and she said there is something you have 
to have injected every day.  I don't know whether or not this injection is 
natural or not.  She couldn't remember what it was.  In
 general, I don't recommend wasting any money on Kevin Trudeau's books.  I 
admire the man and admire what he has done and is trying to do for the general 
public and the world at large but if you want your money better spent, there 
are other books out there that would be more helpful in terms of informational 
value.
 Doris
 just my humble opinion, Sorry Kevin


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From: "vwol...@aol.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 5:20:57 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Iodine/. weight lossDEE/Kevin Trudeau

  In a message dated 4/6/2007 5:04:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
papad...@gmail.com writes:
 You might scan this new book when it comes out =

http://tinyurl.com/yufcz8
 I went to the site...I have been thinking about this book since I saw the 
infomercial the other morning.
 Like Dee and I guess a zillion others...I have tried every "diet" imaginable.
 Altho the Carb Addictive diet worked for me years ago...it no longer does.
 I am guessing hormones and menopause...

 Like Ruth and Dee   I have so many obstacles to overcome to get to a healthy 
space.

 I have concluded my basic problem is that I had an injury as a child...a hit 
to the forehead with a baseball bat...complete accident..I was a city child 
just moved to the country and did not know that you shouldn't come up behind 
someone about to swing a bat:(
 Still have the lump between my eyes after all these years...I believe that 
smack moved something inside the brain..probably in the Hypothalamus area.

 Up till that time I was very tall for my age and active ...I then stopped my 
growth ...stayed at that level the rest of my life and had early 
menses...becoming Estrogen dominant...and the problems began.

 Any how   telling you all this because  the concept that Kevin speaks of 
...correcting the Hypothalamus...reregulating it...really caught my attention.
 So of course I was interested.

 Your post caused me to go to the url you sent .
 However,  there seems to be an implication that one has to "take" 
something...completely natural..of course:(...in order to accomplish what he is 
speaking of.
  
 My question...has anyone bought this book  and is there a product involved?
 I would appreciate any info on this...willing to purchase Yet Another Book on 
this subject if I think it is worth it.thanksV.



  
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Re: CS>another cause of all new diseases.... Bisphenol A

[Carol Ann]

Sigh...OKso no news is good news. Can  anyone give a heads up on how this 
typical  bottle brings its goods.  Soda, juice, water, etc.

Ross Craig  wrote:Oh oh, it seems these 
polycarbonate bottles are the cause of almost  everything. Is nothing safe 
anymore?
  
 From the Globe and Mail today:
 It seems obvious that a high dose of a poison would be more dangerous than a  
lower one, but bisphenol A is creating a stir because it doesn't follow this  
seemingly common-sense rule. Researchers say this oddity results from the fact  
that bisphenol A isn't a conventional harmful agent, such as cigarette smoke,  
but behaves in the unconventional way typical of hormones, where even  
vanishingly small exposures can be harmful.
 This is why some environmentalists and scientists contend that bisphenol A,  
which leaches in trace amounts from food and beverage packaging, is among the  
scariest manufactured substances in use, an eerie modern version of the vaunted 
 lead water pipes by which ancient Romans were unknowingly poisoned.
 Extrapolating from the results of animal experiments, they suspect bisphenol  
A has its fingerprints all over the unexplained human health trends emerging in 
 recent decades hinting at something going haywire with sex hormones, including 
 the early onset of puberty, declining sperm counts, and the huge increase in  
breast and prostate cancer, among other ailments.
 full story:
 
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Re: CS>Carb Blockers

[Clayton Family]

Hey, watch it! I need to get more diet soda and pizza!

On Apr 9, 2007, at 7:10 PM, Carol Ann wrote:

In your situation as you describe it, neither would I.  However, there 
are folks who would consider carb blockers as a means to overindulge 
in foods they would other wise avoid or eat much less of as part of 
their regular, low weight diets.


Kinda like folks who order a pizza with the works or a whopper and 
fries and wash it down with a  diet soda.


Marshall Dudley  wrote:



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Re: CS>Carb Blockers

[Carol Ann]

In your situation as you describe it, neither would I.  However, there are 
folks who would consider carb blockers as a means to overindulge in foods they 
would other wise avoid or eat much less of as part of their regular, low weight 
diets.

Kinda like folks who order a pizza with the works or a whopper and fries and 
wash it down with a  diet soda. 

Marshall Dudley  wrote: C

I am not sure I would call it abusing food.  We eat out a lot, and 
unfortunately restaurant food is much higher in carbs than we would 
like. To get sufficient proteins, vitamins, minerals and so forth, 
requires eating more starches than needed or desired.  This allows one 
to "kill" much of the carbs, while still getting the nutrition from the 
other parts of the meal.

Marshall


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Re: CS>Almost as good as WD40...

[sol]

And vodka smells a lot better than WD-40 (which I have a hard time 
believing is non-toxic, as I have trouble breathing around/in the odor 
of WD-40.
I'll try the shower and bathtub thing, vodka smells better than bleach 
or vinegar.

sol

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2. To  clean the caulking around bathtubs and showers, fill a  
trigger-spray  bottle with vodka, spray the caulking, let set five 
minutes and  wash  clean.  The alcohol in the vodka kills mold and 
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CS>Blood sugar, weight loss, etc.

[Terry Chamberlin]

V said,
> I have hyperinsulinism <

Dee said,
> [People think]...when you are this sort of weight,
that you must be stuffing your face secretly, but I
can assure you this is not true.  And when I do starve
and lose a few pounds, if I deviate one little bit
from the starvation mode, then I pile it on again and
more! <

Both of these issues can be addressed in similar ways.
Let me comment on them one point at a time.

The first thing to check is your urine/saliva pH. Here
is a metabolic principle: The more alkaline your pH
is, the stronger (more efficient) your insulin is, and
vice-versa. So, if your pH is overly alkaline, you
will have overly strong insulin, which translates to
low blood sugar (hyperinsulinism = hypoglycemia).
Since most folks have fluctuating pH, their blood
sugar bounces around a lot, with accompanying
fluctuations of energy, mood, digestive efficiency and
mental clarity. This is what causes hundreds of
millions of people across North America to head for
the coffee machine about 10:00 AM and 2:00 PM every
day, when their blood sugar has dropped. Other folks
eat sugar to accomplish the same thing.

But it goes farther than that. I have tested the pH of
many, many people all across North America since 1984,
and only a small percentage of them are consistently
acidic or alkaline (except for older folks, who have
usually settled into a consistent acidic pH). The
significance of fluctuating pH is that it indicates a
state of demineralization. So a program of
remineralization is essential, top-priority.

Of all the nutrients that people are familiar with
today - vitamins, minerals, enzymes, protein, etc. -
minerals play the most important role in human
metabolism. Our bodies use vitamins, protein and
enzymes, but we are made of minerals. The root cause
of illness and poor health centers upon the process of
demineralization. It's a bit like a bank account in
which, if you write a check for more than the balance
in the checking account, it automatically dips into
the funds in the savings account. When your body does
not get the minerals it needs from the food you eat
(or the supplements you take), it "pirates" minerals
from the mineral reserves throughout your body. So, if
your body has a chemical imbalance of one type, it
will steal minerals from your joints and bones, and
you might develop arthritis or bursitis (or calcium
deposits or fibromyalgia). Or, if your chemistry is
unbalanced in another direction, your body might leach
minerals from the linings of your arteries, and you
might develop high blood pressure and heart disease.
If you can imagine the bricks and the mortar in a wall
slowly dissolving, then you will have an idea of the
process of demineralization. After awhile, of course,
the wall will topple over, because it has become
structurally unsound. Bone density, a term used by
doctors, is actually referring to the amount of
minerals that have been removed from the bones by the
body, and how much is still left. 

Anytime your body does not get the minerals it needs
from the food that you eat (unless you are taking and
assimilating good mineral supplements), it will take
them out of your body's reserves.

When your pH is overly alkaline, your digestion slows
down and your body is unable to extract the nutrients
from your food (or supplements). When your pH is too
acid, your digestion is too fast, with the same
results. To the degree that your pH is unbalanced, to
that degree does your
digestion/assimilation/metabolism suffer. So resolving
pH imbalance is absolutely essential. When overly
alkaline, your body tends to steal minerals that it
needs from the top half of your body, resulting in
excessive tooth decay, TMJ, head, neck and shoulder
problems, etc. If consistently too alkaline, you will
be constipated. You may have a higher body temperature
than you should (need less blankets than your partner,
perspire easily, hate hot weather, maybe sleep with a
fan by your bed). When too acid, the body searches for
mineral deposits from the lower half of your body.
This is why many older folks (who have become
consistently acidic) have feet problems, corns,
bunions, hip problems, etc. If consistently acidic,
your body temperature will be too low (my ex-wife
needed seven blankets to my one), you may have trouble
digesting protein (especially meat) because it moves
too fast through your digestive tract. You will be
highly susceptible to bone-joint problems (arthritis,
bursitis, fibromyalgia) and, of course, cancer. The
answer, by-the-way, is not to become alkaline (with
its accompanying problems), but to become balanced. 

Although I have described acid/alkaline issues above,
because most folks experience fluctuating pH, it is
not so simple or clear as I have described.

How to achieve balanced pH? OK, fasten your seat
belts.

First off, unbalanced pH is NOT caused primarily by
acidic/alkaline foods. It is caused by a calcium
deficiency of a specific type. To make this clearer, I
must digress to

Re: CS>Re: Kefir etc candida

[ruth strackbein]

Thanks, Sol , Good suggestions, all of them.  Will print them out when I get 
back to the library on Wednesday. Short of time, now.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: sol 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Kefir etc candida
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:24:13 -0600

Ruth, I was never tested for candida, just went by my symptoms and a 
history of frequent female candida infections.


Good luck getting any accurate CS info from a medical doctor. Most aren't 
interested, except to warn a person away from it. CS cannot so far as I'm 
aware to date harm any organ of the body. He may be thinking of compounds 
such as silver citrate, but honestly most MDs don't know the difference, 
and could care less, and wouldn't believe anything to the contrary in any 
case. Unless the info comes from the FDA or big pharma they won't believe 
it.


I have never had such a mouth reaction as you describe, so don't know what 
it could be. This is where a water test meter (PWT or Com-100) would come 
in very handy. If you test your distilled water prior to making CS, you can 
make sure to use very pure water only, and if you test your finished CS, 
and subtract the reading of the distilled water you started with then you 
have some close idea of the ppm of your finished CS. Otherwise you are just 
guessing. FWIW, my SG-6, set where it should be making 8-10 ppm actually 
produces CS of around 5 ppm. In any case, starting with some previously 
made CS in the batch already (I do this deliberately to shorten brewing 
time) will not affect the auto shut off point of an automatic generator. It 
will be the same ppm at shut off, unless you changed the dial.
A test meter (don't get a TDS meter, they don't read below 1.0 uS)won't 
give you 100% accuracy, but you will have a much better idea what could be 
going on, as well as a much closer idea of what ppm your finished CS is.


I did wonder if you could be sensitive to the slight acidity of distilled 
water and the finished CS? Theoretically distilled water (and therefore the 
CS made from it) should be neutral (ph 7). But in real life where I live, 
both purchased distilled water and my home distilled water are about pH 5 
to 6. It doesn't bother me, but might be mildly acidic enough to bother 
you? Other than that guess, I simply have no idea why you get that burning 
sensation.


Might be worth getting some pH test strips and checking. You can get them 
at any pharmacy. You could also simply add a small pinch of baking soda to 
your CS and see if that changes the sensation in any way. Also it might be 
good to just drink some of your plain distilled water and see if it gives 
you the same sensation.


Anybody else have any ideas?
sol


ruth strackbein wrote:
My MD warned me about swallowing CS  .  Sounded like he
thinks it might have negative effects in my liver and other organs.   I 
got concerned after reading a post from a woman whose son had similar 
sensations when swallowing CS.  The last CS I made I had spilled the half 
maade CS about halfway through the process.  Was trying to  straighten the 
silver strips.  Called Trem.  He said just to fill up the jar and start 
over.  I had started with 8-10 ppm setting on my Silvergen and now I 
wonder if  the finished product was actually higher and my body wasn't 
ready for that.   Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: sol 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Kefir etc candida
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:22:22 -0600

I guess you are asking *me* how much CS I used? (I left out Ruth's email 
in the quoted text). I drank between a pint and a quart a day for a long 
time (sipped througout the day, held in mouth for a while sometimes). 
Don't remember exactly now, but at least 6 months to a year, and I think 
it was probably actually closer to 2 years (but my memory isn't that 
great). Plus I took caprylic acid according to instructions on the 
bottle--it was vitaminshoppe brand (probably went through at least 2 
bottles) and I went on a low carb diet, very strict (Atkins induction) 
for 2.5 months (that I do remember).
I also did take some probiotics, if memory serves, but I don't remember 
brand...

sol

Clayton Family wrote:
I would be interested in what all you have done, and how much is needed 
for the candida.


Also there is a possibility of cellular infection, with those reactions, 
not just candida. And from what I saw last night on genetically 
engineered food, it may be from consuming foods that have infections 
built into them.


On Apr 6, 2007, at 11:38 PM, sol wrote:

 I was extremely lactose intolerant for
several years, but no longer have any lactose intolerance at all thanks 
to CS and Caprylic Acid and a low carb diet all of which I believe 
reduced my own candida problem. In my experience one really needs to 
get CS comsumption up to far greater quantities than you are currently 
able to take for it to help eliminate candida overgrow

Re: CS>Re: Kefir etc candida

[sol]

Ruth, I was never tested for candida, just went by my symptoms and a 
history of frequent female candida infections.


Good luck getting any accurate CS info from a medical doctor. Most 
aren't interested, except to warn a person away from it. CS cannot so 
far as I'm aware to date harm any organ of the body. He may be thinking 
of compounds such as silver citrate, but honestly most MDs don't know 
the difference, and could care less, and wouldn't believe anything to 
the contrary in any case. Unless the info comes from the FDA or big 
pharma they won't believe it.


I have never had such a mouth reaction as you describe, so don't know 
what it could be. This is where a water test meter (PWT or Com-100) 
would come in very handy. If you test your distilled water prior to 
making CS, you can make sure to use very pure water only, and if you 
test your finished CS, and subtract the reading of the distilled water 
you started with then you have some close idea of the ppm of your 
finished CS. Otherwise you are just guessing. FWIW, my SG-6, set where 
it should be making 8-10 ppm actually produces CS of around 5 ppm. In 
any case, starting with some previously made CS in the batch already (I 
do this deliberately to shorten brewing time) will not affect the auto 
shut off point of an automatic generator. It will be the same ppm at 
shut off, unless you changed the dial.
A test meter (don't get a TDS meter, they don't read below 1.0 uS)won't 
give you 100% accuracy, but you will have a much better idea what could 
be going on, as well as a much closer idea of what ppm your finished CS is.


I did wonder if you could be sensitive to the slight acidity of 
distilled water and the finished CS? Theoretically distilled water (and 
therefore the CS made from it) should be neutral (ph 7). But in real 
life where I live, both purchased distilled water and my home distilled 
water are about pH 5 to 6. It doesn't bother me, but might be mildly 
acidic enough to bother you? Other than that guess, I simply have no 
idea why you get that burning sensation.


Might be worth getting some pH test strips and checking. You can get 
them at any pharmacy. You could also simply add a small pinch of baking 
soda to your CS and see if that changes the sensation in any way. Also 
it might be good to just drink some of your plain distilled water and 
see if it gives you the same sensation.


Anybody else have any ideas?
sol


ruth strackbein wrote:
My MD warned me about swallowing CS  .  Sounded like he
thinks it might have negative effects in my liver and other organs.   I got concerned after reading a post 
from a woman whose son had similar sensations when swallowing CS.  The 
last CS I made I had spilled the half maade CS about halfway through the 
process.  Was trying to  straighten the silver strips.  Called Trem.  He 
said just to fill up the jar and start over.  I had started with 8-10 
ppm setting on my Silvergen and now I wonder if  the finished product 
was actually higher and my body wasn't ready for that.   Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: sol 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Kefir etc candida
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:22:22 -0600

I guess you are asking *me* how much CS I used? (I left out Ruth's 
email in the quoted text). I drank between a pint and a quart a day 
for a long time (sipped througout the day, held in mouth for a while 
sometimes). Don't remember exactly now, but at least 6 months to a 
year, and I think it was probably actually closer to 2 years (but my 
memory isn't that great). Plus I took caprylic acid according to 
instructions on the bottle--it was vitaminshoppe brand (probably went 
through at least 2 bottles) and I went on a low carb diet, very strict 
(Atkins induction) for 2.5 months (that I do remember).
I also did take some probiotics, if memory serves, but I don't 
remember brand...

sol

Clayton Family wrote:
I would be interested in what all you have done, and how much is 
needed for the candida.


Also there is a possibility of cellular infection, with those 
reactions, not just candida. And from what I saw last night on 
genetically engineered food, it may be from consuming foods that have 
infections built into them.


On Apr 6, 2007, at 11:38 PM, sol wrote:

 I was extremely lactose intolerant for
several years, but no longer have any lactose intolerance at all 
thanks to CS and Caprylic Acid and a low carb diet all of which I 
believe reduced my own candida problem. In my experience one really 
needs to get CS comsumption up to far greater quantities than you 
are currently able to take for it to help eliminate candida overgrowth.





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Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?

[Cinder Ella]

Just because you didn't have any cavities after doesn't mean there wasn't any 
damage being caused to the mercury fillings.  Perhaps the hydrogen peroxide was 
cleaning your teeth well all over and you didn't have any cavities but did you 
ever research to find out if it was also releasing mercury into your system?  
Hydrogen Peroxide does react with metal from all that I know and have been 
told.  When my last amalgam fillings are gone next month I fully intend to use 
hydrogen peroxide as a rinse.  
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Rebecca Thomas 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 2:46:57 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?


Several years ago I began treating my mouth with peroxide after brushing
my teeth at night.  When I went to the dentist he found no cavities &
asked what I'd been doing.  He said 'It's working GREAT, keep it up!!!"
I have several amalgam fllings.

Becca

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CS>Almost as good as WD40...

[Dan Nave]

Well, who knew

1. To remove a bandage painlessly,  saturate the bandage
with vodka. The solvent dissolves adhesive.

2. To  clean the caulking around bathtubs and showers,
fill a  trigger-spray  bottle with vodka, spray the caulking, let set
five minutes and  wash  clean.  The alcohol in the vodka kills mold and
mildew.

3. To clean  your eyeglasses, simply wipe the lenses
with a soft, clean cloth dampened with  vodka. The alcohol in the vodka
cleans the glass and kills germs.

4.  Prolong the life of razors by filling a cup with
vodka and letting your safety  razor blade soak in the alcohol after
shaving.  The vodka disinfects  the blade and prevents rusting.

5. Spray vodka on vomit stains,  scrub with a brush, and
then blot dry.

6. Using a cotton ball, apply  vodka to your face as an
astringent to cleanse the skin and tighten  pores.

7. Add a jigger of vodka to a 12-ounce bottle of
shampoo. The  alcohol cleanses the scalp, removes toxins from hair, and
stimulates the growth  of healthy hair.

8. Fill a sixteen-ounce trigger-spray bottle and spray
bees or wasps to kill them.

9. Pour one-half cup vodka and one-half cup  water in a
Ziploc freezer bag and freeze for a slushy, refreshable ice pack for
aches, pain or black eyes.

10. Fill a clean, used mayonnaise jar with  freshly
packed lavender flowers, fill the jar with vodka, seal the lid tightly
and set in the sun for three days. Strain liquid through a coffee
filter, then apply the tincture to aches and pains.

11. To relieve a  fever, use a washcloth to rub vodka on
your chest and back as a  liniment.

12. To cure foot odor, wash your feet with vodka.

13.  Vodka will disinfect and alleviate a jellyfish
sting.

14. Pour vodka over  an area affected with poison ivy to
remove the urushiol oil from your  skin.

15. Swish a shot of vodka over an aching tooth Allow
your gums to  absorb some of the alcohol to numb the pain.

And silly me . I've only been drinking the  stuff!!! 

RE: CS>Re: Kefir etc candida

[ruth strackbein]

Hi, Sol and Clayton Family, I may try kefir again .  and if I do will 
appreciate the information on separating taking CS from using kefir or 
probiotics.  I am using a probiotic now, but generally take CS during the 
late evening or even at night so the likelihood of getting them mixed is 
rather slight for the present.  However, my schedules may change as they 
often do. Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Clayton Family 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: Kefir etc candida
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 13:05:41 -0500

I would be interested in what all you have done, and how much is needed for 
the candida.


Also there is a possibility of cellular infection, with those reactions, 
not just candida. And from what I saw last night on genetically engineered 
food, it may be from consuming foods that have infections built into them.


On Apr 6, 2007, at 11:38 PM, sol wrote:




-Original Message-
From: ruth strackbein [mailto:ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com]


  Naturally, I want

to look into any possible leads away from surgery.  Trouble is, I am
seriously milk intolerant, cant use yogurt. Did try homemade kefir from 
raw

goat's milk and got diarrhea.  Maybe your information would address those
kinds of issues. Thanks, Ruth


Ruth,

Sounds like lactose intolerance---If so you might have candidiasis, as has 
been mentioned before. I was extremely lactose intolerant for several 
years, but no longer have any lactose intolerance at all thanks to CS and 
Caprylic Acid and a low carb diet all of which I believe reduced my own 
candida problem. In my experience one really needs to get CS comsumption 
up to far greater quantities than you are currently able to take for it to 
help eliminate candida overgrowth. The fact that you experience a herx 
like reaction to incredibly small quantities of CS could itself indicate a 
serious candida overgrowth or other similar problem. With the problems you 
have described, it would seem to me to be a miracle if you did not have 
severe intestinal candida, or even systemic candida.

  Kefir or probiotics should be taken apart from CS by a couple hours.
Kefir is supposed to be great stuff, and I make it and take what I can gag 
down, but I just don't like it, even in smoothies. It did give me diarrhea 
at first, but I cut back, started with a very small amount, and worked up. 
I do like to eat the extra Kefir grains, even though I don't like the 
Kefir itself. I'm weird I guess.


sol


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Re: CS>Re: Kefir etc candida

[ruth strackbein]

Hi, sol, Was tested for Yeast awhile back and test came back negative.  
However, I realize that such a test done via the regular MD channels may not 
mean that I do not have candida.  Have used Caprylic acid also a long time 
ago without any seeming benefit, also various candida otc meds.  Am glad to 
have your  dosages of CS.  Am having some possible trouble with a funny 
feeling in my mouth and burning in esophagus when I swallow it.  My MD 
warned me about swallowing CS  .  Sounded like he thinks it might have 
negative effects in my liver and other organs.  I suspect he accessed one of 
those sites that is talking about colloidal silver as opposed to EIS.  I 
called him and asked him to call back with further information , but he 
hasn't responded as yet.  I would be upset about this except that this man 
is extremely busy ,  and usually looks worn out.  He will reply when he gets 
time to do the research again, or check into what he did before.  I got 
concerned after reading a post from a woman whose son had similar sensations 
when swallowing CS.  The last CS I made I had spilled the half maade CS 
about halfway through the process.  Was trying to  straighten the silver 
strips.  Called Trem.  He said just to fill up the jar and start over.  I 
had started with 8-10 ppm setting on my Silvergen and now I wonder if  the 
finished product was actually higher and my body wasn't ready for that.   
Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: sol 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Kefir etc candida
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:22:22 -0600

I guess you are asking *me* how much CS I used? (I left out Ruth's email in 
the quoted text). I drank between a pint and a quart a day for a long time 
(sipped througout the day, held in mouth for a while sometimes). Don't 
remember exactly now, but at least 6 months to a year, and I think it was 
probably actually closer to 2 years (but my memory isn't that great). Plus 
I took caprylic acid according to instructions on the bottle--it was 
vitaminshoppe brand (probably went through at least 2 bottles) and I went 
on a low carb diet, very strict (Atkins induction) for 2.5 months (that I 
do remember).
I also did take some probiotics, if memory serves, but I don't remember 
brand...

sol

Clayton Family wrote:
I would be interested in what all you have done, and how much is needed 
for the candida.


Also there is a possibility of cellular infection, with those reactions, 
not just candida. And from what I saw last night on genetically engineered 
food, it may be from consuming foods that have infections built into them.


On Apr 6, 2007, at 11:38 PM, sol wrote:

 I was extremely lactose intolerant for
several years, but no longer have any lactose intolerance at all thanks 
to CS and Caprylic Acid and a low carb diet all of which I believe 
reduced my own candida problem. In my experience one really needs to get 
CS comsumption up to far greater quantities than you are currently able 
to take for it to help eliminate candida overgrowth.





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Re: CS>aspirin

[ruth strackbein]

Hi Marshall, Thanks for the link:  Mine was more jagged, too, but , as I 
recall it was in color.  Would be especially freaky to have one while 
driving!  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Marshall Dudley 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>aspirin
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:54:19 -0400

ruth strackbein wrote:
Thanks, Marshall, Guess I was mistaken about the ischemic attack, it 
probably wasn't one.  Actually, I don't remember that it ever happened 
again , though possibly slightly once or twice, never as strongly as the 
time to which I referred.  Haven't had any in the recent past.  Ruth


I have had 3 of them in my life. All during a one week period.  Since I 
knew what it was, I actually sat back and enjoyed it, as an interesting 
learning experience.  I will never forget it, really bizarre.  Now that I 
have experienced it though, I don't particularly want any more.  I had no 
headache during or following it, but then I rarely get headachs.


There is a pretty good animation of what one is like at 
http://www.knownjohnson.com/?p=73


Mine was more jagged, with triangular points facing in, like sharks teeth, 
and was black and not in color, but this is a pretty good simulation.




Marshall

From Ruth Strackbein




From: Marshall Dudley 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>aspirin
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:24:05 -0400

ruth strackbein wrote:
Hi Dee, Guess I should have recognized the ischemic attacks, just wasn't 
thinking for the moment. I have had at least one in the past, maybe as 
long as 15-20 years ago. All of a sudden, I was dismissing my students 
for lunch and my vision blurred and jagged lines appeared


That is the classical symptoms for a "Visual migrane". Completely 
harmless, unless you are driving or something and it leads to an 
accident.  They normally go away in 15 to 30 minutes after the tunnel 
vision.  The only thing I have found that works on them is hand on 
healing or Reiki, which can make them go away in about 30 seconds.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Carb Blockers

[Cinder Ella]

Do as you like, just sharing my experience.  Take the carb blocker and see what 
happens to you.
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Marshall Dudley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 12:58:25 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Carb Blockers


Carol Ann wrote:
> hmmm.  I am not sure sure I agree totally.  After reading this thread 
> I went and bought a bottle while I was at the store for sumten else.  
> anyway, I am not what anyone would consider "overweight",  yet, I 
> could stand to lose 10-14 lbs easily as I know I would feel better.  
>  
> What has happened is that my body likes the weight its at.dosent 
> seem to want to budge regardless of what I do, it seems to have 
> settled at 145lbs. (5' 7").  A few of these extra lbs are in the wrong 
> place.I think the use of such a product to accomplish a short term 
> goal, wherein the body can get a jumpstart and then readjust to a 
> different weight is reasonable.  To use it to abuse food however is 
> another matter and I would concur with you Doris. 

I am not sure I would call it abusing food.  We eat out a lot, and 
unfortunately restaurant food is much higher in carbs than we would 
like. To get sufficient proteins, vitamins, minerals and so forth, 
requires eating more starches than needed or desired.  This allows one 
to "kill" much of the carbs, while still getting the nutrition from the 
other parts of the meal.

Marshall


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Re: CS>question

[Marshall Dudley]

Dee wrote:
But what are they?  Dee  
 
/---Original Message---/
 
/*From:*/ Marshall Dudley 

/*Date:*/ 04/09/07 18:27:40
/*To:*/ silver-list@eskimo.com 
/*Subject:*/ Re: CS>question
 
I guess that is one interpretation, chemicals are not one celled or alive
 
Marshall





Chemicals are either elements, or elements joined into molecules by 
ionic or covalent bonding.


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Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?

[Dee]

I use EIS and it even stops toothache!  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Rebecca Thomas
Date: 09/04/2007 19:47:36
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?
 
Several years ago I began treating my mouth with peroxide after brushing
my teeth at night.  When I went to the dentist he found no cavities &
asked what I'd been doing.  He said 'It's working GREAT, keep it up!!!"
I have several amalgam fllings.
 
Becca
 
 
 

Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[Dee]

I don't know about that, because years ago, people used to live with farm
animals even, and I don't think allergies were heard of then.  I think it is
far more likely to be the way we live now i.e. Pesticides, pollution, all
the rubbish that is put in food, the fact that even baby washing stuff, but
certainly all the shower/hair washing products we use; are so loaded with
sodium laureth sulphate, propylene glycol etc., I mean, even dogs and cats
have allergies now!  Another thing is vaccination and they pump even tiny
babies full of vaccines which contain mercury, formaldahide, alluminium, etc
.  I think at one time our immune systems could cope with things like mold
and fungus, but now it is so under seige from trying to protect us from
everything else, it is fighting a losing battle.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: mborg...@att.net
Date: 09/04/2007 19:48:33
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re:
CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol
 
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER.
 
  A FEW THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND,60 YRS AGO WHEN PEOPLE STARTED BRING INTO THE
HOME DOGS AND CATS AND MADE THEM PART OF THE FAMILY, I BELIEVE THAT IS ALSO
THE TIME WHEN FUNGUS AND MOLD STARTED INVADING HOMES. FORMALLY DOGS AND CATS
HAD THEIR PLACE OUTSIDE THEY WORKED AND USUALLY DID NOT COME INTO THE HOME.
NOW,DOGS AND CATS ROAM OUTSIDE PICKING UP MOSS(FUNGUS) OR FUNGUS FROM THE
TREES ON THEIR FEET AND FUNGUS WILL GET INTO THEIR COATS FROM TREES ETC.
THEY THAN LICK THEIR FEET LICK HUMANS OR THE FUNGUS JUST GOES INTO THE
CARPETS, BEDDING, FURNITURE, CLOTHES.
 

RE: CS>question

[Dee]

Actually folks, I remove the question because I had a brain wave and looked
it up myself!  It seems they are drugs which is something (I don't know why)
I never knew.  I now know why the mystified answers I received!  Put it down
to more senior moments (LOL!) Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Dee
Date: 04/09/07 19:55:44
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>question
 
It isn't so difficult really, all I'm asking is 'what is an anti-biotic?' I
know that it means 'against life' but I do not know what it is or how it
works.  Dee  
 

CS>unsubscribe

[Julie Pressman]

RE: CS>question

[Dee]

It isn't so difficult really, all I'm asking is 'what is an anti-biotic?' I
know that it means 'against life' but I do not know what it is or how it
works.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Dan Nave
Date: 09/04/2007 18:18:02
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>question
 
The answer is stated in terms of the question.
 
You need to rephrase the question to something that makes some sort of sense
..
 
Dan

Re: CS>question

[Dee]

But what are they?  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: 04/09/07 18:27:40
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>question
 
I guess that is one interpretation, chemicals are not one celled or alive
 
Marshall

Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[mborgert]

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER. 

 A FEW THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND,60 YRS AGO WHEN PEOPLE STARTED BRING INTO THE 
HOME DOGS AND CATS AND MADE THEM PART OF THE FAMILY, I BELIEVE THAT IS ALSO THE 
TIME WHEN FUNGUS AND MOLD STARTED INVADING HOMES. FORMALLY DOGS AND CATS HAD 
THEIR PLACE OUTSIDE THEY WORKED AND USUALLY DID NOT COME INTO THE HOME. 
NOW,DOGS AND CATS ROAM OUTSIDE PICKING UP MOSS(FUNGUS) OR FUNGUS FROM THE TREES 
ON THEIR FEET AND FUNGUS WILL GET INTO THEIR COATS FROM TREES ETC. THEY THAN 
LICK THEIR FEET LICK HUMANS OR THE FUNGUS JUST GOES INTO THE CARPETS, BEDDING, 
FURNITURE, CLOTHES.

ANOTHER, WASHING CARPETS WITH LIQUIDS IN THE WINTER.  THERE IS NO WAY WALL TO 
WALL CARPETS CAN DRY OUT IN THE WINTER, UNLESS ONE IS IN A HOTTER CLIMATE, FOR 
THE CARPETS SHOULD BE AIRED ON BOTH SIDES, AND PEOPLE KEEP HOMES COOLER EVEN IN 
THE WINTER AT NIGHT OR WHEN THEY LEAVE THE HOUSE.  ALL OF THE LIQUID THAT IS 
LEFT TO DRY OUT BECOMES,OVER TIME, MOLD.  THE DRY CARPET CLEANER, WHO KNOWS 
WHAT CHEMICAL IT CONTAINS. 

I DO LOVE DOGS AND CATS BUT IF ONE HAS AN ALLERGY BESIDES BEING ALLERGIC TO 
THEIR DANDER IT COULD ALSO BE THE ABOVE REASONS.

THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION
MARY


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From: Clayton Family 
>
> Severe allergic reactions are much more common today than in years 
> past. Almost unheard of 100 years ago, now everyone has heard of it, 
> nearly.
> 
> Dr Doris Rapp has been working in the allergy field for 40 or 50 years, 
> and is convinced that toxins and chemicals are to blame for the upswing 
> in severe childhood allergies and brain disorders, like ADHD. She has a 
> book about it, is this your child's environment, or something.
> 
> In my own case, I had sinus problems, which according to research done 
> by Mayo Clinic and available by searching PubMed, is almost certainly 
> due to fungal infections. Also had a small amount of toxic mold growing 
> on some sheetrock in 2 locations in the home, further poisoning me. I 
> was given dilfucan, an antifungal to deal with the candida and sinus 
> infections, and allergy antigens. This improved my condition a great 
> deal, but not enough.
> 
> Then I heard about CS, and started using it instead of the diflucan and 
> the antigens, which I came to believe were also adding to my burden. I 
> use it 3 x a day, just like I had to take the antigens. The 3 x a day 
> schedule has been shown to work the best for sublingual route of 
> allergy treatment, so I stayed with the 3x a day routine, to stimulate 
> my body's immune response, but with cs instead of antigens.
> 
> At the same time, I heard for the first time about genetically 
> engineered food in our diet, and that it might be contributing to our 
> problems. So I started trying an organic vegetarian diet (I am vegan, 
> due to allergies to dairy).
> 
> I improved MUCH more quickly with this, and consider that the 
> genetically engineered food to be a sinister stealth attack on our 
> entire nation. One quote from the movie, from the GE company, said they 
> will be watching the children of the nation closely in the next 10 
> years! If we were infiltrated by Communists intent on the destruction 
> of our nation, it could not be much more evil than this.
> 
> So  Monsanto had been looking for a soil bacteria that is genetically 
> resistant to Roundup. They looked for 12 years, then they found one. 
> They tried cutting and pasting it in, but no go, the cell boundaries 
> are too strong (just to keep things like this out). So then they put on 
> their thinking caps and decided that bacteria and viruses can invade 
> the cell wall, so they put in some E coli. This bug causes some severe 
> gastrointestinal infections, by the way. It worked. They found some 
> viruses that also work, and to get a control on the process so they can 
> test if it is working, they put in an antibiotic resistant bacteria. So 
> they can give the culture the antibiotic, and if the culture lives, 
> they have won!
> 
> SO in GE soy, we eat e coli, antibiotic resistant bacteria, and some 
> viruses. And then they can spray it with Round up, and it won't kill 
> the plant. And we are not talking about how the pollen from the corn 
> goes all over and contaminates regular corn.
> 
> I am thinking that the CS might be a supplement I might need for the 
> rest of my life. These ge bugs might be getting into my cells 
> (something did, I had a severe body wide infection of some kind, 
> judging by how little cs I could take without getting a bad herks). And 
> since the CS works at the cellular level, it will maybe kill all the 
> invaders.
> 
> At any rate I am getting healthier by the day, as long as I watch my 
> diet, environment and take my CS. By the way, my food allergies are 
> also improving greatly- I had some dairy by accident, and did not have 
> anaphylaxis, did not even have an asthma attack like last time, but I 
> could not digest

Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?

[Rebecca Thomas]

Several years ago I began treating my mouth with peroxide after brushing
my teeth at night.  When I went to the dentist he found no cavities &
asked what I'd been doing.  He said 'It's working GREAT, keep it up!!!"
I have several amalgam fllings.

Becca

--- Begin Message ---

Cinder Ella wrote:
I thought adding hydrogen peroxide to EIS CS would nullify it.  Just 
like when you swish hydrogen peroxide in your mouth with amalgam 
fillings the fillings react with the H2O2 and you're not supposed to 
do that.  I had some colloidal silver and gold made by someone else 
and it was yellow.  After I added some hydrogen peroxide to it, it 
went clear.  Anyone know what the heck happened there?


The large particle of silver were converted to diatomic particles.

Marshall

Doris

- Original Message 
From: joe bloggs 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 8:17:09 AM
Subject: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?

I've read that adding one or two drops of 35% hydrogen peroxide to 
colloidal

silver can break up the silver into smaller particles.  Does anyone know
anything about this?
Any info or advice would be much appreicated.  Thanks.
Frankie

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CS>monsanto

[zeb caffe]

And, isnt monsanto reponsible for the cotton, morgenlles (fiber disease)? ARent 
they the ones who genetically altered cotten or am I wrong here?thanks to the 
person who posted the information about the health freedom movement. We really 
need to pay attention to the intent behind some of these groups.These latest 
posts are the reason that I felt it was important to allow off topic health 
issues to be discussed on the silver forum. If our freedoms are taken from us, 
it will affect our ability to use silver anyway.
 
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Re: CS>question about CS /adding scents to c s

[Vwolf21]

 
*I see...o.k.
I will use the CS spray seperately from the Scented CS...thanks...V

In a message dated 4/8/2007 2:19:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
clay...@skypoint.com writes:

I really would not do it. The PPM is very low, so if you add anything 
to it, it will probably be bonding with the free ionic silver and 
rendering it mostly useless.

On Apr 7, 2007, at 2:20 PM, vwol...@aol.com wrote:

> I use a small spray bottle 3/4 filled with full strength CS.
> I then add a small amount of scent...one of the few that don't bother 
> me...Jean Nate Cologne or a few drops of Lemon Oil.
>  
> By doing this...am I cutting the efficacy of the CS?
>  
> By combining the two   I am hoping to disinfect the air as will as 
> leave a pleasant scent.
>  
> Most scents are verboten in our house because of my allergies.   
> thanks  V.
>
>
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CS>Leptin for weight loss

[Carl Deb Charter]

Anyone ever heard of this or of Leptin for weight loss?  Thanks,
http://www.nofatnow.com/

Re: iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[Clayton Family]

Severe allergic reactions are much more common today than in years 
past. Almost unheard of 100 years ago, now everyone has heard of it, 
nearly.


Dr Doris Rapp has been working in the allergy field for 40 or 50 years, 
and is convinced that toxins and chemicals are to blame for the upswing 
in severe childhood allergies and brain disorders, like ADHD. She has a 
book about it, is this your child's environment, or something.


In my own case, I had sinus problems, which according to research done 
by Mayo Clinic and available by searching PubMed, is almost certainly 
due to fungal infections. Also had a small amount of toxic mold growing 
on some sheetrock in 2 locations in the home, further poisoning me. I 
was given dilfucan, an antifungal to deal with the candida and sinus 
infections, and allergy antigens. This improved my condition a great 
deal, but not enough.


Then I heard about CS, and started using it instead of the diflucan and 
the antigens, which I came to believe were also adding to my burden. I 
use it 3 x a day, just like I had to take the antigens. The 3 x a day 
schedule has been shown to work the best for sublingual route of 
allergy treatment, so I stayed with the 3x a day routine, to stimulate 
my body's immune response, but with cs instead of antigens.


At the same time, I heard for the first time about genetically 
engineered food in our diet, and that it might be contributing to our 
problems. So I started trying an organic vegetarian diet (I am vegan, 
due to allergies to dairy).


I improved MUCH more quickly with this, and consider that the 
genetically engineered food to be a sinister stealth attack on our 
entire nation. One quote from the movie, from the GE company, said they 
will be watching the children of the nation closely in the next 10 
years! If we were infiltrated by Communists intent on the destruction 
of our nation, it could not be much more evil than this.


So  Monsanto had been looking for a soil bacteria that is genetically 
resistant to Roundup. They looked for 12 years, then they found one. 
They tried cutting and pasting it in, but no go, the cell boundaries 
are too strong (just to keep things like this out). So then they put on 
their thinking caps and decided that bacteria and viruses can invade 
the cell wall, so they put in some E coli. This bug causes some severe 
gastrointestinal infections, by the way. It worked. They found some 
viruses that also work, and to get a control on the process so they can 
test if it is working, they put in an antibiotic resistant bacteria. So 
they can give the culture the antibiotic, and if the culture lives, 
they have won!


SO in GE soy, we eat e coli, antibiotic resistant bacteria, and some 
viruses. And then they can spray it with Round up, and it won't kill 
the plant. And we are not talking about how the pollen from the corn 
goes all over and contaminates regular corn.


I am thinking that the CS might be a supplement I might need for the 
rest of my life. These ge bugs might be getting into my cells 
(something did, I had a severe body wide infection of some kind, 
judging by how little cs I could take without getting a bad herks). And 
since the CS works at the cellular level, it will maybe kill all the 
invaders.


At any rate I am getting healthier by the day, as long as I watch my 
diet, environment and take my CS. By the way, my food allergies are 
also improving greatly- I had some dairy by accident, and did not have 
anaphylaxis, did not even have an asthma attack like last time, but I 
could not digest it well, and had indigestion and fatigue. I took some 
digestive enzymes and fasted 24 hours, and much better today. Not to 
mention the inhalent allergies.


I am thinking it must be some combo of infections. Whatever it is I am 
happy it works. I am sure my problems are not permanent, even though so 
many people say things like this are permanent. It turns out they are 
not, if you can get away from the toxins and cure the infections.


Congratulations!

Kathryn

On Apr 9, 2007, at 10:14 AM, sol wrote:

Well iodine is a 'necessary nutrient', but I CANNOT entirely avoid it, 
and do not have a goiter, so I MUST be getting sufficient. 20 years + 
of strict avoidance and I'm not dead yet (quite). So I get plenty of 
iodine, all my ultra-strict avoidance does not mean I'm iodine 
deficient, only means that I (mostly) manage to keep my total iodine 
intake down to where I don't have constant severe hives and eczema. I 
still do have frequent hives and eczema (I do everything I can to keep 
it to a minimum) and take antihistamines constantly plus sometimes 
have to use cortisone products, etc., etc. all because it is 
impossible to really avoid getting iodine. People who can eat high 
iodine foods, seafood, sea salt, high iodine veggies like broccoli and 
asparagus, and all the commercially prepared foods that contain 
iodized salt or seaweed thickeners and so on get a lot of iodine. 
Still some people may 

Re: CS>question

[Marshall Dudley]

Dee wrote:
Just a quick question.  Why does EIS not kill anti-biotics please? 

Because you cannot kill something that is not alive.
 Is it because they are more than single celled? 

I guess that is one interpretation, chemicals are not one celled or alive

Marshall
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Re: CS>Future of Food/ Name of Movie/Thanks

[Vwolf21]

 
In a message dated 4/9/2007 12:59:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
clay...@skypoint.com writes:

The name of the movie is The Future of Food, a documentary.

On Apr 9, 2007, at 11:12 AM, vwol...@aol.com wrote:

> Message below in the post...thanks...V.
>  

Thanks...I will try and get it from Netflix...sounds very interesting...V



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RE: CS>question

[Dan Nave]

The answer is stated in terms of the question.
 
You need to rephrase the question to something that makes some sort of
sense...
 
Dan



From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:47 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>question


How do they work then, oh great sage (LOL)?  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Ode Coyote  
Date: 09/04/2007 16:30:13
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>question
 
 
   Anti-biotic are not alive to start with.
 
ode
 
 

Re: CS>Carb Blockers and Lymph

[Dee]

Thanks for that Rowena, I don't really know although I don't seem to have
any sort of swellings.  I get a sort of tenderness under the arms when
touched sometimes but have been told this is normal.  I must say since I've
been taking the iodoral I have had much more energy, but apart from this
blasted weight problem I seem to have quite good health.  I do take CS most
days as well so rarely get ill.  I will certainly check this site though.
Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Rowena
Date: 09/04/2007 15:47:14
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Carb Blockers and Lymph
 
Dee, is it possible that lymphodema is involved here, or even lipodema or a
mixture of the two?
Things block the flow of lymph, and so the fluid just sits in the tissues.
I've been told that problems in the reproductive organs can cause
lymphodoema in the lower half of the body, e.g. fibroids - they block the
flow of lymph which bathes the tissues.  The fluid can't flow back to the
blood stream, and just sits there.
With lipodoema, if I have it right, the lipids stuck in the tissues then go
on to block the lymph, so you get a double whammy.
Also with lipodoema, the limbs etc can be larger than normal, but the feet
are normal sized.  With lymphodoema, the feet swell also.
 
Typically, people assume that overeating is the cause.
 
There is an interesting site - rather encouraging, too - on
www.poppylaneclinic.com.au
Poppy Lane Skin Care & Lymphoedema Clinic  139 Hollywood Drive Lansvale NSW
2166 Australia (02) 9723 5402
 
http://www.lymph.com.au/webcontent14.htm
 
 

Re: CS>Carb Blockers

[Marshall Dudley]

Carol Ann wrote:
hmmm.  I am not sure sure I agree totally.  After reading this thread 
I went and bought a bottle while I was at the store for sumten else.  
anyway, I am not what anyone would consider "overweight",  yet, I 
could stand to lose 10-14 lbs easily as I know I would feel better.  
 
What has happened is that my body likes the weight its at.dosent 
seem to want to budge regardless of what I do, it seems to have 
settled at 145lbs. (5' 7").  A few of these extra lbs are in the wrong 
place.I think the use of such a product to accomplish a short term 
goal, wherein the body can get a jumpstart and then readjust to a 
different weight is reasonable.  To use it to abuse food however is 
another matter and I would concur with you Doris. 


I am not sure I would call it abusing food.  We eat out a lot, and 
unfortunately restaurant food is much higher in carbs than we would 
like. To get sufficient proteins, vitamins, minerals and so forth, 
requires eating more starches than needed or desired.  This allows one 
to "kill" much of the carbs, while still getting the nutrition from the 
other parts of the meal.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Future of Food/ Name of Movie

[Clayton Family]

The name of the movie is The Future of Food, a documentary.

On Apr 9, 2007, at 11:12 AM, vwol...@aol.com wrote:


Message below in the post...thanks...V.
 
In a message dated 4/9/2007 8:54:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
clay...@skypoint.com writes:

Well, the govt has appointed Monsanto executives to head the Epa and in
other positions of power in the FDA. It is chilling.
On Apr 8, 2007, at 10:19 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

> Why on earth would they do such a horrible thing and why isn't anyont
 > stopping them??
>
> Clayton Family  wrote:
>  I saw this movie last night, a documentary.
DO YOU HAVE THE NAME OF THIS MOVIE?
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF WHAT MONSANTO IS 
DOING...FOR MY OWN INFORMATION AND TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN BETTER TO MY 
FAMILY JUST WHAT IS HAPPENING. V.
 It is one of the most scary and eye opening things I have seen in a 
long time. Basically, it tells how Monsanto has spliced E coli into 
food, along with antibiotic

>  resistant bacteria, and viruses, etc. So Bt corn, has several
 > different
>  kinds of infectious organisms in it.
>
> No wonder so many people are having these unknown allergies and 
immune

>  diseases- those are some of the common side effects of eating this
>  food.
>
> I am almost certain it has played a big role in my own health issues.
>
> Just wanted to put a bug in your ears,
>
> Kathryn
>
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Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?

[Marshall Dudley]

Cinder Ella wrote:
I thought adding hydrogen peroxide to EIS CS would nullify it.  Just 
like when you swish hydrogen peroxide in your mouth with amalgam 
fillings the fillings react with the H2O2 and you're not supposed to 
do that.  I had some colloidal silver and gold made by someone else 
and it was yellow.  After I added some hydrogen peroxide to it, it 
went clear.  Anyone know what the heck happened there?


The large particle of silver were converted to diatomic particles.

Marshall

Doris

- Original Message 
From: joe bloggs 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 8:17:09 AM
Subject: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?

I've read that adding one or two drops of 35% hydrogen peroxide to 
colloidal

silver can break up the silver into smaller particles.  Does anyone know
anything about this?
Any info or advice would be much appreicated.  Thanks.
Frankie

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Re: CS>question

[Dee]

How do they work then, oh great sage (LOL)?  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Ode Coyote
Date: 09/04/2007 16:30:13
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>question
 
 
   Anti-biotic are not alive to start with.
 
ode
 
 

Re: CS>aspirin

[Dee]

This is *very* similar to what I had.  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: 04/09/07 17:00:18
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>aspirin
 
There is a pretty good animation of what one is like at
http://www.knownjohnson.com/?p=73
 
Mine was more jagged, with triangular points facing in, like sharks
teeth, and was black and not in color, but this is a pretty good simulation.
 
 
 
Marshall

Re: CS>Carb Blockers/ Mike

[Vwolf21]

Please scroll down...reply in the post...thanks   V.
 
In a message dated 4/8/2007 10:47:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
mdev...@eskimo.com writes:

Dear Virginia,

You write:
> I have hyperinsulinism and the doc recommends I use something like
> this..

Hyperinsulinism may have an organic cause or contributing factor, such 
as the liver parasites or other pathogens some people are suggesting. 
It is something worth looking into.

That said, the main reason your insulin is high is because you are 
eating enough carbohydrates often enough that it triggers an almost 
continuous insulin response. That's the job of insulin, to keep your 
blood sugar low by causing the body to move it into the cells and out 
of the bloodstream.
*Yup...I do eat to many carbs...even though I try and make them "Good" 
carbs.
My body requires lots of Protein...I am Blood Type O but even without that 
info..experience tells me that Protein is what works for me.

So logically, I should keep my food intake to 3/4 protein  1/4 carbs...the 
Carbo Addicts Diet is perfect for this..but I have spent so much of my life 
hungry...at times close to starving  (diet pills and water shots..for years) 
that 
now that I have begun eating real food, I want Pasta and Bread ...among other 
things.
I use the lo carb pasta  Dreamfield  and Multi Grain bread but it doesn't 
matter...I am only fooling myself.:(  just for the sake of the feeling of 
comfort 
these foods give me.
My mind tells me that many of my "hungers" will never be met...missed out on 
so much in this lifetime...and that then drives me to calm myself with food.
My mind and body are constantly at war...not good ...I know.**

The insulin not only helps transport glucose into the muscle cells, but 
also to transport lipids into the fat cells. High triglyceride levels 
are yet another response of the body to high carbohydrate intake. 
Insulin stores away that extra fat, as well. That's why we gain weight 
on a high carb diet.

After routine consumption of unhealthy levels of carbohydrates, your 
body becomes de-sensitized to your own insulin, requiring the pancreas 
to produce more and more of it in order to achieve sugar control. 
That's why they also call this condition "insulin resistance syndrome."

The body has absolutely no essential need for carbohydrates! 
***This is especially true for Blood Type O's...the original meat eaters on 
this planet.

The small 
amount of glucose it needs for the brain and a handful of other organs  
can be synthesized quite easily by the liver from dietary protein.

It all becomes a question of how much carb you can afford to eat and 
stay healthy, not how much you *need* to eat to be healthy!

As long as you're eating carbs, your body will burn them up first to 
get energy. It does this for a reason: High levels of blood suger are 
bad for you!

If you ever stop eating carbs long enough for it to burn up all the 
stored and circulating reserves of sugar, your body *will* switch over 
to it's PREFERRED fuel, FAT! All those triglycerides? Yep, them!

I have seldom felt better than when I managed to resist my addiction to 
carbs long enough to get into fat burning mode and stay there. More 
energy, stamina, everything works better. I could go all day without a 
stop and hardly ever feel hungry. I was running on my own fat stores 
along with whatever fat I ate.

You'll want to eat protein, yes, in whatever amounts your body needs to 
build and repair itself. Your main energy food is fat. Eat healthy, 
good quality fats in adequate amounts and you'll not be hungry, nor 
will you gain weight -- as long as you're NOT running with an insulin 
response every day! The moment you do, you'll be switched back over to 
storing fat and burning sugar.

Veggies, then, add bulk to your diet and give you the many vitamins, 
minerals, and enzymes you need in addition to the fat and protein. 
Fruit is an occasional treat.

That's the secret of all the carb restricted diets. It is, in fact, the 
way we were meant to eat. There were very few concentrated 
carbohydrates routinely available to our hunter-gatherer ancestors, 
plus they were always active enough to burn off whatever starches they 
did consume so they could quickly get back to burning fat. The bulk of 
their energy came from fat in the wild game they hunted and trapped, 
plus whatever nuts, seeds, roots, and the like that they could gather. 
In the fall, the tribe could gorge on fruit, leading to an insulin 
response which would help them store some extra fat away for the lean 
months of winter.

The trouble with trying to eat this way today is the animal fat and 
protein most easily available are corrupted by our insistance on 
feeding livestock on grain instead of grass. The veggies we get are 
less nourishing due to soil depletion and artificial fertilizer use. 
Nearly everything we can buy is processed to death... literally until 
it is dead. Cheap vegetable oils are anything but safe to eat. An

Re: CS>Future of Food/ Name of Movie

[Vwolf21]

Message below in the post...thanks...V.
 
In a message dated 4/9/2007 8:54:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
clay...@skypoint.com writes:

Well, the govt has appointed Monsanto executives to head the Epa and in 
other positions of power in the FDA. It is chilling.
On Apr 8, 2007, at 10:19 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

> Why on earth would they do such a horrible thing and why isn't anyont 
> stopping them??
>
> Clayton Family  wrote:
>  I saw this movie last night, a documentary.
DO YOU HAVE THE NAME OF THIS MOVIE?
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF WHAT MONSANTO IS DOING...FOR 
MY OWN INFORMATION AND TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN BETTER TO MY FAMILY JUST WHAT IS 
HAPPENING. V.

It is one of the most scary and eye opening things I have seen in a long 
time. Basically, it tells how Monsanto has spliced E coli into food, along with 
antibiotic
>  resistant bacteria, and viruses, etc. So Bt corn, has several 
> different
>  kinds of infectious organisms in it.
>
> No wonder so many people are having these unknown allergies and immune
>  diseases- those are some of the common side effects of eating this
>  food.
>
> I am almost certain it has played a big role in my own health issues.
>
> Just wanted to put a bug in your ears,
>
> Kathryn
>
> A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth.
> Albert Einstein, 1901
>




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Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CS>low sodium on blood test- now iodine again - OT

[Cinder Ella]

I replied to you.  The other person who thought you were not overweight replied 
to Carol Anne thinking it was you.  (Must have been a guy tee hee hee :0))
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Dee 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 4:15:59 AM
Subject: Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CS>low sodium on blood 
test- now iodine again - OT

Hi Doris, I seemed to have replied to your email through another persons reply! 
 I do agree, but I just cannot eat 'normal' food (i.e. Veggies, meat etc.,) so 
tend to live on sandwiches and fruit.  I do not eat massive amounts though; 
never more than 2000 calories per day, and if there is something out there that 
could give me a kick start it would be worth it just to bring the weight down  
so that I could continue as I was already doing.  The trouble with starvation 
diets is that you can't sustain them for obvious reasons and as soon as you eat 
anywhere near a normal amount of calories, bang, on it goes and more!  Dee (I 
think you replied to Carol Ann and thought it was me)
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Cinder Ella
Date: 08/04/2007 19:09:26
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CS>low sodium on blood 
test- now iodine again - OT
 
I tried those carb blocker thingies too and lost weight.  You are also losing 
nutrients and if you should ever stop taking those wonderful carb blockers and 
have not managed to changed your eating 
patterns... guess what's going to 
happen?  Your body will put all the weight on and more.  Once your body has 
been deprived of calories, by whatever means, it adapts and makes better use of 
what it is allowed to have.  Then as soon as it gets more than it's used to it 
doesn't need the extra to survive anymore and immediately puts it into fat 
storage for a "rainy day".  Take it from someone who has been there ... 
done that!  Your body is a wonderfully adaptive machine, very intricate and 
complicated.
Doris

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Re: CS>aspirin

[Marshall Dudley]

ruth strackbein wrote:
Thanks, Marshall, Guess I was mistaken about the ischemic attack, it 
probably wasn't one.  Actually, I don't remember that it ever happened 
again , though possibly slightly once or twice, never as strongly as 
the time to which I referred.  Haven't had any in the recent past.  Ruth


I have had 3 of them in my life. All during a one week period.  Since I 
knew what it was, I actually sat back and enjoyed it, as an interesting 
learning experience.  I will never forget it, really bizarre.  Now that 
I have experienced it though, I don't particularly want any more.  I had 
no headache during or following it, but then I rarely get headachs.


There is a pretty good animation of what one is like at 
http://www.knownjohnson.com/?p=73


Mine was more jagged, with triangular points facing in, like sharks 
teeth, and was black and not in color, but this is a pretty good simulation.




Marshall

From Ruth Strackbein




From: Marshall Dudley 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>aspirin
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:24:05 -0400

ruth strackbein wrote:
Hi Dee, Guess I should have recognized the ischemic attacks, just 
wasn't thinking for the moment. I have had at least one in the past, 
maybe as long as 15-20 years ago. All of a sudden, I was dismissing 
my students for lunch and my vision blurred and jagged lines appeared


That is the classical symptoms for a "Visual migrane". Completely 
harmless, unless you are driving or something and it leads to an 
accident.  They normally go away in 15 to 30 minutes after the tunnel 
vision.  The only thing I have found that works on them is hand on 
healing or Reiki, which can make them go away in about 30 seconds.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Carb Blockers

[Cinder Ella]

There are ways to boost your metabolism.  Unclogging your liver is a good way 
to start.
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Dee 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 4:04:33 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Carb Blockers

Hi Doris, I know what you mean, and this actually  happens even when you just 
diet naturally without carb blockers.  I have to literally starve to lose 
weight now because my metabolism is totally up the creek from constant dieting 
even when I really wasn't fat!   I do not eat sensibly but I don't eat massive 
amounts of food either, but even when I cut my calories down to 1500 per day, 
(which is mostly what I usually consume, perhaps a bit more but never over 
2000) and yet I am 196lbs. (I think somewhere the Dee's have got mixed up!) and 
I am 5' 6" I know people do not believe this and think that when you are this 
sort of weight, that you must be stuffing your face secretly, but I can assure 
you this is not true.  And when I do starve and lose a few pounds, if I deviate 
one little bit from the starvation mode, then I pile it on again and more!  
Hence the weight now.  This beggars the question at the end of the day, what do 
you do?  Dee (not the 145lb  Dee LOL!) 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Cinder Ella
Date: 09/04/2007 01:15:09
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Carb Blockers
 
   Now all of a sudden the whooshing effect stops and all the "xyz" calories 
are once again being recognized by your body.  Now your body says, "I don't 
know... we did perfectly fine with "x" for so long and we don't really need 
"yz" anymore.  Tell you what... we'll store them just in case she does this 
to us again!"  Now you gain back the weight.  It's what happens with ALL forms 
of calorie reduced diets and forms of deprivation.  And that's exactly what 
carb and fat blockers do even though you can't see it happening.  I know 
because I went through this and after all was said and done I developed 
hindsight and researched the ingredients and realized what was happening.  Well 
that and I examined my stool carefully.

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Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?

[Marshall Dudley]

Ode Coyote wrote:
Note that it is recommended to let the EIS sit for 5 or more minutes 
if you do add H2O2 to it to let it stabilize.


*Marshall



+++  Make that 2 or more days and I'm right with you.

Ode

I have changed it to "Note that it is recommended to let the EIS sit for 
5 or more minutes (2 or more days according to some experts) if you do 
add H2O2

to it to let it stabilize."

I do realize that they dynamics are different when added to fresh vs 
stabilized EIS.  What I have no data on is if the final result is better 
or worse for one or the other.


Marshall


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Re: CS>question

[Ode Coyote]

  Anti-biotic are not alive to start with.

ode


At 09:31 AM 4/9/2007 +0100, you wrote:

Just a quick question.  Why does EIS not kill anti-biotics please?  Is it 
because they are more than single celled?  Many thanks in advance.  Dee



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Re: CS>Adding hydrogen peroxide?

[Marshall Dudley]

Ode Coyote wrote:

  3% will do it too.
 Micrograph proof at
www.msrebel.com

Are you sure that is the correct page?  I don't find H2O2, hydrogen or 
peroxide mentioned anywhere on that page.


Marshall

 But, don't add till after a few days and don't use H2O2 when 'making' CS

Ode

At 12:17 PM 4/6/2007 +, you wrote:

I've read that adding one or two drops of 35% hydrogen peroxide to 
colloidal

silver can break up the silver into smaller particles.  Does anyone know
anything about this?
Any info or advice would be much appreicated.  Thanks.
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iodine, other allergies, plus CS for allergy reduction? was Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[sol]

Well iodine is a 'necessary nutrient', but I CANNOT entirely avoid it, 
and do not have a goiter, so I MUST be getting sufficient. 20 years + of 
strict avoidance and I'm not dead yet (quite). So I get plenty of 
iodine, all my ultra-strict avoidance does not mean I'm iodine 
deficient, only means that I (mostly) manage to keep my total iodine 
intake down to where I don't have constant severe hives and eczema. I 
still do have frequent hives and eczema (I do everything I can to keep 
it to a minimum) and take antihistamines constantly plus sometimes have 
to use cortisone products, etc., etc. all because it is impossible to 
really avoid getting iodine. People who can eat high iodine foods, 
seafood, sea salt, high iodine veggies like broccoli and asparagus, and 
all the commercially prepared foods that contain iodized salt or seaweed 
thickeners and so on get a lot of iodine. Still some people may not get 
enough, but I personally suspect that is because of some inability to 
properly use what they take in.


My point is only that many people are allergic to and must avoid various
"necessary for life" nutrients. Take a look at phenylketonuria for just 
one other example.


A complicating factor is that when one is having a sensitivity or 
allergy reaction going on, one becomes more sensitive to everything, and 
make have additive allergic reactions to substances that one might not 
otherwise react to. Over my years of iodine allergic reactions, this has 
resulted in my developing other permanent allergies/sensitivities. Of 
course I could be wrong about the cause of this progression, but I'm not 
wrong about the fact I've developed more and more sensitivities and 
reactons over the years.


Howeverregular CS use for 4 ?) years now has resulted in a great 
reduction in inhalant allergies, pollens and the like. I can't explain 
that except that it could be due to reduction in candida overload, and 
possibly reduction of mold in sinuses (I don't know if I actually ever 
had mold infection in my sinuses, but I used to get 3 or 4 bad colds, 
flus, and sinus infections every year. Now.I don't. Nor do I suffer 
"hay fever" with anything approaching the severity that used to be 
common to me. Yay!


sol

Dee wrote:
How does this work then Sol, because I thought that iodine was essential 
to life?  Dee  




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Re: CS>Carb Blockers and Lymph

[Rowena]

Dee, is it possible that lymphodema is involved here, or even lipodema or a 
mixture of the two?
Things block the flow of lymph, and so the fluid just sits in the tissues.
I've been told that problems in the reproductive organs can cause 
lymphodoema in the lower half of the body, e.g. fibroids - they block the 
flow of lymph which bathes the tissues.  The fluid can't flow back to the 
blood stream, and just sits there.
With lipodoema, if I have it right, the lipids stuck in the tissues then go 
on to block the lymph, so you get a double whammy.
Also with lipodoema, the limbs etc can be larger than normal, but the feet 
are normal sized.  With lymphodoema, the feet swell also.

Typically, people assume that overeating is the cause.

There is an interesting site - rather encouraging, too - on 
www.poppylaneclinic.com.au
Poppy Lane Skin Care & Lymphoedema Clinic  139 Hollywood Drive Lansvale NSW 
2166 Australia (02) 9723 5402

http://www.lymph.com.au/webcontent14.htm


I just read that because of the static lymph, infections are a strong 
possibility and it's recommended that the patient keep antibiotics on hand 
in case.  Here is where CS should come into its own!  CS and DMSO topically 
would enter the tissues right to any site of infection.

Regards
Rowena

. . . even when I cut my calories down to
1500 per day, (which is mostly what I usually consume, perhaps a bit more
but never over 2000) and yet I am 196lbs. (I think somewhere the Dee's have
got mixed up!) and I am 5' 6" I know people do not believe this and think
that when you are this sort of weight, that you must be stuffing your face
secretly, but I can assure you this is not true. 


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Re: CS>Future of Food

[Clayton Family]

Well, the govt has appointed Monsanto executives to head the Epa and in 
other positions of power in the FDA. It is chilling.

On Apr 8, 2007, at 10:19 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Why on earth would they do such a horrible thing and why isn't anyont 
stopping them??


Clayton Family  wrote:
 I saw this movie last night, a documentary. It is one of the most 
scary

 and eye opening things I have seen in a long time. Basically, it tells
 how Monsanto has spliced E coli into food, along with antibiotic
 resistant bacteria, and viruses, etc. So Bt corn, has several 
different

 kinds of infectious organisms in it.

No wonder so many people are having these unknown allergies and immune
 diseases- those are some of the common side effects of eating this
 food.

I am almost certain it has played a big role in my own health issues.

Just wanted to put a bug in your ears,

Kathryn

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CS>NATURAL SOLUTIONS FOUNDATION's DISINFORMATION SHOULD BE IGNORED & NOT FORWARDED-

[Hannah]

NATURAL SOLUTIONS FOUNDATION's
DISINFORMATION SHOULD BE IGNORED & NOT FORWARDED- HERE IS
WHY!!
(this is an email forward from the becknblood group)


 
From:  IAHF
List: 
A few people on the IAHF list have
forwarded an alert to us that originated from a controlled
opposition group called the "Natural Solutions
Foundation". Since entering our movement, this dubious
organization has been actively interfering with the work of IAHF and
allied organizations via a campaign of disinformation and
spin intended to distract dietary supplement
consumers from the REAL issues in an attempt to
subvert and hijack our movement by steering the
grass roots into dead ends. Their gameplan is thoroughly
exposed here: 

A Modern Major General
Exposed? 


http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-moderngeneral.html
 
and here: CONTROLLED
OPPOSITION GROUPS

http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm
  
Their recent campaign calls attention
to an FDA Federal Register Notice
(
http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/98fr/E7-3259.htm) which they
outrageously assert threatens to block non MDs from recommending dietary
supplements to patients is no
exception. 
They would have us believe that unless
we flood the FDA with their form comment, that the FDA is going to
suddenly start attacking any non MD (chiropractor, ND, etc) who
recommends dietary supplements to a
patient. 
NSFs assertions are both false
and absurd. They would have us believe that FDA has the ability
to rewrite the law. FDA can't do that, only Congress can. They would have
us believe that through a Federal Register notice, FDA has the ability to
make changes to the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994
under which dietary supplements are regulated as foods. They would have
us believe that based on what FDA is saying, that unless FDA hears from a
lot of people, non MDs (naturopaths, chiropractors) will suddenly not be
allowed to recommend dietary supplements to patients and that health food
stores would no longer be allowed to sell them to us. That is both
false and absurd! This is the worst form of sensationalism and it has NO
PLACE in this movement!
WHAT NSF IS TRYING TO DISTRACT YOU
FROM

It should be self evident that unless
we are able to stop our country from being forced into the North
American Union, that failure to defend our sovereignty equals
failure to defend the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act and all
of our other laws as well as our Constitution. 

Laibow/Stubblebine aren't
doing a damn thing to call attention to this, moreover, when
our movement attempted to kill CAFTA, (recognizing that the SPS language
it contains ropes us more into CODEX) Laibow/Stubblebine generated no
less than SEVEN spin pieces against our message
while SIMULTANEOUSLY telling people that they'd just
achieved a (non existent) "VICTORY" at
Codex. 

Read "A Modern Major General
Exposed?" to get an idea of the kind of spin these people routinely
engage in:



http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-moderngeneral.html

They did this in order to create COGNITIVE
DISSONANCE in the minds of the people who were receiving our
alerts- because they wanted them to SIT ON THEIR HANDS
and not do ANYTHING to oppose CAFTA. Right now,
they're not doing anything to warn people about FDA's TCC or the NAU
which its part of:

If you fail to
grasp the fact that our country is being deconstructed right now with the
ruling elite's plan being to force us into a North American Union with
Canada and Mexico patterned after the European Union Dictatorship, please
take the time to examine this
information:
1. My petition calling for Congressional oversight on the FDA's
Trilateral Cooperation Charter

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/373269232#body
  
2. Interview Jerome Corsi of World Net
Daily just did of me:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55028
  
3. National Problematique: North
American Nightmare  8 min
video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tg8suvwS3o&mode=related&search
=

4. Video: The Real Face of the
North American Union

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/videos/EuropeanUnion.html
  
5.
Treason Abounds -
Gov't Cabal Plots North American Union (NAU)



http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TreasonAbounds.html
If you want any clarification on what I'm saying here after you've
thoroughly examined the information above, please call me at 800-333-2553
H&W. Please forward this to anyone who might have received Laibow's
so called "alert."

The harm these
people have been doing within the health freedom movement is
incalculable. Please STOP forwarding their so called
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CS>Seeing Through Spin of Citizens for Health and The Natural Solutions Foundation

[Paula Perry]

Important information about the front groups attempting to hijack opposition to 
codex and health restrictions. Be wary. Citizens for Health not long ago was 
trying to get people to call and write-in to their congress people, to restrict 
states rights regarding food safety. They wanted national, less restrictive 
labeling and controls for food.
Paula

 http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm

CS>question

[Dee]

Just a quick question.  Why does EIS not kill anti-biotics please?  Is it 
because they are more than single celled?  Many thanks in advance.  Dee  


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Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CS>low sodium on blood test- now iodine again - OT

[Dee]

Thanks for this Doris, it is definitely a possibility because my gamma
enzymes in the liver are always way up on what they should be.  Apparently,
this is called some sort of syndrome as I do not drink alcohol although the
doctor I am sure, thought I was a closet alcoholic at first!  Maybe this is
the toxin thingy, because I have all these amalgum fillings which I can't
afford to have removed.  Regards Dee (the 196lb Dee LOL!) 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Cinder Ella
Date: 08/04/2007 19:00:10
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CS>low sodium on
blood test- now iodine again - OT
 
Dee, the weight loss thing may have more to do with a congested liver than just 
iodine supplementation by itself.  I have been taking iodine and haven't lost a 
milimeter.  I also know though that I have a congested liver and am working on 
cleansing my entire body right now.  Remember your fat cells are also your 
body's way of protecting your vital organs from toxins that your liver can't 
filter out.  If your liver is clogged or congested, then the toxins are 
floating around in your blood stream and your body tends to engulf them with 
fat and store them to protect your vital organs like heart and brain so they 
aren't damaged.  Then they store the fat in your body thinking they have done 
you a favour because your liver can no longer do it's job.  

Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CS>low sodium on blood test- now iodine again - OT

[Dee]

Hi Doris, I seemed to have replied to your email through another persons
reply!  I do agree, but I just cannot eat 'normal' food (i.e. Veggies, meat
etc.,) so tend to live on sandwiches and fruit.  I do not eat massive
amounts though; never more than 2000 calories per day, and if there is
something out there that could give me a kick start it would be worth it
just to bring the weight down  so that I could continue as I was already
doing.  The trouble with starvation diets is that you can't sustain them for
obvious reasons and as soon as you eat anywhere near a normal amount of
calories, bang, on it goes and more!  Dee (I think you replied to Carol Ann
and thought it was me)
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Cinder Ella
Date: 08/04/2007 19:09:26
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: another interesting site on iodine, was Re: CS>low sodium on
blood test- now iodine again - OT
 
I tried those carb blocker thingies too and lost weight.  You are also
losing nutrients and if you should ever stop taking those wonderful carb
blockers and have not managed to changed your eating patterns...
... guess what's going to happen?  Your body
will put all the weight on and more.  Once your body has been deprived of
calories, by whatever means, it adapts and makes better use of what it is
allowed to have.  Then as soon as it gets more than it's used to it doesn't
need the extra to survive anymore and immediately puts it into fat storage
for a "rainy day".  Take it from someone who has been there ... done
that!  Your body is a wonderfully adaptive machine, very intricate and
complicated.
Doris

Re: CS>Carb Blockers

[Dee]

Hi Doris, I know what you mean, and this actually  happens even when you
just diet naturally without carb blockers.  I have to literally starve to
lose weight now because my metabolism is totally up the creek from constant
dieting even when I really wasn't fat!   I do not eat sensibly but I don't
eat massive amounts of food either, but even when I cut my calories down to
1500 per day, (which is mostly what I usually consume, perhaps a bit more
but never over 2000) and yet I am 196lbs. (I think somewhere the Dee's have
got mixed up!) and I am 5' 6" I know people do not believe this and think
that when you are this sort of weight, that you must be stuffing your face
secretly, but I can assure you this is not true.  And when I do starve and
lose a few pounds, if I deviate one little bit from the starvation mode,
then I pile it on again and more!  Hence the weight now.  This beggars the
question at the end of the day, what do you do?  Dee (not the 145lb  Dee
LOL!) 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Cinder Ella
Date: 09/04/2007 01:15:09
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Carb Blockers
 
   Now all of a sudden the whooshing effect stops and all the "xyz" calories
are once again being recognized by your body.  Now your body says, "I don't
know... we did perfectly fine with "x" for so long and we don't really
need "yz" anymore.  Tell you what... we'll store them just in case she
does this to us again!"  Now you gain back the weight.  It's what happens
with ALL forms of calorie reduced diets and forms of deprivation.  And that
s exactly what carb and fat blockers do even though you can't see it
happening.  I know because I went through this and after all was said and
done I developed hindsight and researched the ingredients and realized what
was happening.  Well that and I examined my stool carefully.
 

Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol

[Dee]

How does this work then Sol, because I thought that iodine was essential to
life?  Dee  
 
---Original Message---
 
From: sol
Date: 09/04/2007 01:30:30
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Re: iodine allergy to Sol
 
NOpe, I am definitely allergic to the iodine (straight pure iodine) but
I am also reactive to any and all iodine compounds. I'be been told
before that humans cannot be allergic to iodine but that is a load of
crap. (no offense)
sol
 
Cinder Ella wrote:
> It's interesting to note that people who are allergic to Shellfish are
> usually allergic to iodine as well.  Perhaps it's not the iodine you're
 
 
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