RE: CSOT - shower filter

2014-01-17 Thread Bob Banever
Post filtration of an alumina filter would get any remaining solids out of
the water, especially any as large as would be present from the filter media
itself.  There are .1 micron filters on the market that can even filter out
virus particles. 

 

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From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 8:03 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - shower filter

 

Aluminum oxide cannot be present in dissolved form in water, it is 100%
non-soluble.  A very fine powder could be transported by water as a slurry,
suspension, or colloid though.

Marshall

On 1/16/2014 10:02 PM, Neville wrote: 

Don't know if you can answer this Marshall but I'll ask anyway out of
curiosity. 

 

Is it possible for the waste byproduct of aluminium processing plants added
to mains water supply to contain any aluminium oxide - at all?

 

N.

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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:56:15 -0500
From: mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - shower filter

Alumina is aluminum oxide, a very hard ceramic.  It has a wide range of
uses, from grinding abrasive, plastic filler, electrical insulator (like for
spark plugs), filter medium, paint filler/pigment, catalyst, and gemstones,
such as rubies and sapphires.

Marshall

On 1/16/2014 6:40 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: 

Hi Joe,
Is alumina the same as aluminum?  If it is wouldn't that be a poor choice to
shower in?
Thanks.
PT

 

 

 

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RE: CSOT - shower filter

2014-01-16 Thread Bob Banever
There are filters that remove most fluoride.. They are made from alumina.
They can be added to RO systems or used singly under a sink.  They won't
remove all of it. but about 95%.

 

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From: Neville [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 4:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSOT - shower filter

 

I don't think there is a filter system on the market that will remove
Fluoride.  I spoke with reps of the Seagull home water purification systems
{which of course they say is the best money can buy} but nowhere in their
information material does it state theirs will remove Fluoride, everything
else seemingly g but nowhere does it state Fluoride removal.

 

My understanding is RO is the only way to remove it, and that I am led to
believe is fairly cost prohibitive for the home.

 

N.

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From: highfie...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - shower filter
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:38:49 +1100

What about the Fluoride removal, for the town dwellers?

Jane

 


The filters that remove chlorine don't necessarily remove chloramine.


Chloramine can be removed for drinking water purposes by a carbon block or
activated carbon filter that can be installed on a kitchen faucet. Also,
both chlorine and chloramine can be removed for bathing purposes by
dissolving Vitamin C in the bath water. One 1000 mg Vitamin C tablet will
neutralize chloramine in an average bathtub. (
http://www.ecologycenter.org/factsheets/waterquality_eastbay.html 18)

There are no shower filters on the market that completely remove chloramine.
( http://www.chloramine.org/chloraminefacts.htm#filtration 19) There are,
however,
http://www.radiantlifecatalog.com/product/WHOLE-HOUSE-FILTRATION/ whole
house water filters that remove chlorine, chloramine, and other
contaminants.   Unfortunately, they're quite expensive and thus may not be
an option for many people.

 
http://www.reactual.com/home-and-garden/toiletries/shower-filters-2011.html
 Vitamin C shower filters may be a good choice for those looking for an
inexpensive way to reduce the chloramine (and chlorine) content of their
showers. Vitamin C is an effective dechlorination agent, removing up to 99%
of chlorine and chloramine, and vitamin C filters are much less expensive
than the whole house filter featured above. The disadvantage to using them
is they're not as durable or effective as a whole house filtration system,
and you would need a separate filter for each shower outlet in the house.

http://chriskresser.com/is-your-daily-shower-making-you-sick



RE: CSOT - shower filter

2014-01-15 Thread Bob Banever
Gene,

 

  Rainshow'r Mfg. Co. makes a great shower filter that I use.  Their
factory is around the corner from my home.  They are nice folks.  Their
website is rainshowermfg.com.  Toll free 800 243-8775.  They offer more
media in the filter than any other company.  It takes out almost all
chlorine and some other impurities.   

 

Bob

 

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From: Gene Wolfe [mailto:ge...@ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - shower filter

 

We  use a shower filter from http://www.aquasana.com/ They recommend
changing the filter every 6 months.

Gene

On 1/15/2014 3:51 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

Hi, 
Does anyone have a shower filter they really like?  I'm not looking for a
whole house filter, just a shower filter and one that let's me attach my own
shower head.
Thanks.
Blessings, PT

 

 



RE: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+ Midlands

2014-01-07 Thread Bob Banever
Mushrooms are great absorbers of radiation.  The problem is the mushrooms we
buy may already be contaminated with it.  If so we would be ingesting the
very things we're trying to get rid of.  BTW... stay out of airplanes if
possible.  Average CPM readings at 36,000 feet are around 900 CPM... normal
for that level is 100 or less.  Fukushima is showing it's hand up there big
time.

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From: Vicky [mailto:k2p2...@centurytel.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands


Check out Paul Stamets, he did an experiment growing mushrooms on a pile of
sludge for the military along with a few other companies and his was the
only one that changed the sludge to life giving soil. It's the power of
mycelium. Check out his TED talk, very informative.

V


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RE: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+ Midlands

2014-01-07 Thread Bob Banever
RaVen,

I'll give a short reply now.  Have to get to work.  Radiation levels at
36,000 feet are much higher than at ground.  Normally that is also true, but
normal at 36K feet would be 100 CPM or slightly above.  Now they are finding
readings in the 1000 CPM range.  Hazmat emergency is 100 CPM at ground.  In
other words it's dangerous to fly now.  NEVER go thru the x-ray machines.
Get a pat down.  Mushrooms grown in a hot house would probably be ok, and
those grown outside may not be.  No way of knowing without a measurement. 

Bob

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands

Should we grow our own mushrooms at home? Is there a way to get non-toxic
mushrooms - which mushroom is the best to removing toxins?
Can you please clarify, Bob, about staying out of airplanes... do you mean
radiation is worse in the plane - how does that work exactly? Does that mean
radiation is more intense up in the air?
I just took a plane ride to east coast from Colorado and it took a toll on
my health. Now I'm wondering if it's radiation - (plus the xrays from the
security check point).  
I cannot ingest any foods with iodine - with Hashimoto's thyroid disease- it
makes me feel worse. What other non-iodine non-toxic foods/herbs/natural
medicine I can take? 

RaVen 

On Jan 7, 2014, at 8:22 AM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:

Mushrooms are great absorbers of radiation.  The problem is the mushrooms we
buy may already be contaminated with it.  If so we would be ingesting the
very things we're trying to get rid of.  BTW... stay out of airplanes if
possible.  Average CPM readings at 36,000 feet are around 900 CPM... normal
for that level is 100 or less.  Fukushima is showing it's hand up there big
time.

-Original Message-
From: Vicky [mailto:k2p2...@centurytel.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands


Check out Paul Stamets, he did an experiment growing mushrooms on a pile of
sludge for the military along with a few other companies and his was the
only one that changed the sludge to life giving soil. It's the power of
mycelium. Check out his TED talk, very informative.

V


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RE: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+ Midlands

2014-01-06 Thread Bob Banever
Joy,

   Where do you live?  Where I live backround is still around 35CPM give or
take.  Beach areas and beach sand can go higher and higher elevations can go
higher still.

Bob

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Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+ Midlands

Fukushima's radiation levels are hitting all time highs. Yesterday 
measuring in the 140 plus range and higher.

So - how will humanity shield itself? Will everyone now live in Faraday 
cages? Won't that be bothersome not to mention downright impossible? Do 
you go to the bathroom in a Faraday cage too?

Just how practical is living in a cage? And isn't that just actually 
living in a prison?

Joy


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RE: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+ Midlands

2014-01-06 Thread Bob Banever
Those  are good.  One of the best chelators for metals is zeolite.  Zeolites
were fed to people, animals, and even spread on the ground at Chernobyl.
The positive charge inside it's cage like  structure attracts metals
including radionuclides into it where they bind to it.  They are then
harmlessly excreted out via the bowels and kidneys.

 

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From: Ole Alstrup [mailto:alst...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 6:19 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Sv: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands

 


Chelation is uppermost important here, flush out the isotopes. Fulvic/Humid
acids and Modifilan extract are some of my favourites.

 

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From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca; 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; 
Subject: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands 
Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 2:12:32 PM 

 


A Faraday cage is only good for stopping EMF from getting to you. 
Radiation will have to be stopped using other methods, like Lugol's Iodine.
Joe


On 06/01/2014 2:09 AM, 2Words wrote:
 Fukushima's radiation levels are hitting all time highs. Yesterday 
 measuring in the 140 plus range and higher.

 So - how will humanity shield itself? Will everyone now live in 
 Faraday cages? Won't that be bothersome not to mention downright 
 impossible? Do you go to the bathroom in a Faraday cage too?

 Just how practical is living in a cage? And isn't that just actually 
 living in a prison?

 Joy


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RE: CSRe: Radiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+ Midlands

2014-01-06 Thread Bob Banever
Kelp and miso USED to be good to rid the body of radiation, along with
pumpkin and all cruciferous vegetables.  Beware though. ANYTHING out of
Japan is contaminated and  most everything coming from the Pacific ocean may
now be as well, sorry to say.

 

 

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From: 2Words [mailto:2wordsproduct...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:23 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: Radiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands

 

Kelp and Miso too.

Joy



On 1/6/2014 5:56 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:


From: 

Joe Huard  mailto:joe.hu...@primus.ca joe.hu...@primus.ca


Date: 

1/6/2014 4:12 PM

 


To: 

silver-list@eskimo.com

 

A Faraday cage is only good for stopping EMF from getting to you. Radiation
will have to be stopped using other methods, like Lugol's Iodine. 
Joe 

 



RE: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+ Midlands

2014-01-06 Thread Bob Banever
Zeolite chelates the heaviest metals first, so mercury, lead, uranium, etc.
would be the first to go.  

 

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From: Ole Alstrup [mailto:alst...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 8:19 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Sv: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands

 


The original manufacturer

http://www.zeohealth.com/liquidvspow.html

 

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From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com; 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; 
Subject: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands 
Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 4:15:33 PM 

 


Interesting. Wondering if zeolite would chelate iodine. As is when I 
accidentally get iodined and go into a severe allergic flare.
Do you have a brand to recommend? This might be worth experimenting with.
sol

Bob Banever wrote:

 Those are good. One of the best chelators for metals is zeolite. 
 Zeolites were fed to people, animals, and even spread on the ground at 
 Chernobyl. The positive charge inside it's cage like structure 
 attracts metals including radionuclides into it where they bind to it. 
 They are then harmlessly excreted out via the bowels and kidneys.

 



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RE: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+ Midlands

2014-01-06 Thread Bob Banever
There are some companies that claim their micronized zeolites enter the
bloodstream.  Also, Waiora a MLM company sells their NCD liquid zeolite that
they claim will do the same.  Micronized in this instance means cleaned of
impurities so the cages can attract impurities from inside the body.  If the
cages are already full of impurities there won't be any room left for toxins
in the body.

 

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From: asifnathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 12:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands

 

Hi,

Is there an understanding that the zeolites enter the bloodstream

And would they pass through the blood brain barrier.

I'm thinking about heavy elements in muscle and the brain.

Peace to all

Asif.

 

 

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From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net 
Date: 06/01/2014 20:40 (GMT+00:00) 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands 



Zeolite chelates the heaviest metals first, so mercury, lead, uranium, etc.
would be the first to go.  

 

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From: Ole Alstrup [mailto:alst...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 8:19 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Sv: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands

 


The original manufacturer

http://www.zeohealth.com/liquidvspow.html

 

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From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com; 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; 
Subject: Re: CSRadiations Levels Hit an All-Time High Yesterday 140+
Midlands 
Sent: Mon, Jan 6, 2014 4:15:33 PM 

 


Interesting. Wondering if zeolite would chelate iodine. As is when I 
accidentally get iodined and go into a severe allergic flare.
Do you have a brand to recommend? This might be worth experimenting with.
sol

Bob Banever wrote:

 Those are good. One of the best chelators for metals is zeolite. 
 Zeolites were fed to people, animals, and even spread on the ground at 
 Chernobyl. The positive charge inside it's cage like structure 
 attracts metals including radionuclides into it where they bind to it. 
 They are then harmlessly excreted out via the bowels and kidneys.

 



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RE: CSSmart meters

2013-09-04 Thread Bob Banever
PT,

 

   Did you use aluminum foil or something else?  I've read that thick
multiple layers of aluminum foil will block the microwaves but I'm not sure.

 

Bob

 

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From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSmart meters

 

Yes.  I had it done by my electrician and I can feel the difference in the
room closest to the meter.
PT

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: CSSmart meters





Grounded?

 

From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSmart meters

 

I just put a shield on mine.  1/4 plate steel behind and along the side the
house is on.
PT

 

 

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:06 PM
Subject: CSSmart meters


Anyone have any success in Massachusetts calling national grid and having
them move the smart meter from your home ??

Thanks 
Paul 

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RE: CSHas anyone treated birds with CS?

2013-06-30 Thread Bob Banever
Hope it isn't swine flu.  As far as CS for chickens go, I have no idea if
it's safe or not.  My guess would be yes, it's safe.

-Original Message-
From: 123 456 [mailto:whiteol...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 6:16 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: CSHas anyone treated birds with CS?

I have a pet chicken who has the sneezes.

Only had birds for the past few years so never encountered any
sickness before this.
Chickita is definitly not a happy little camper.
I can't locate any antibiotics until Tues so I have to make do until then.

Has anyone else ever treated birds before?

Thanks for any help.
Tara


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RE: CSFwd: PLEASE HELP RE MY HUSBAND..

2013-06-29 Thread Bob Banever
That's interesting.  After researching the vitamin I cannot find any
reference to your wife's condition, nor any reason why this would work for
it.  Not to say it hasn't done the job, just can't find any reason for it.

 

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From: Del [mailto:d...@altsystem.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 8:17 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Fw: CSFwd: PLEASE HELP RE MY HUSBAND..

 

My wife has completely solved her trigger finger problem through the use of
this product:

http://www.amazon.com/Thorne-Research-Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate-Vegetarian/dp/B0
05P0JHS6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8
http://www.amazon.com/Thorne-Research-Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate-Vegetarian/dp/B
005P0JHS6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1372561544sr=8-3keywords=thorne+pyridoxal
+5%27+phosphate
qid=1372561544sr=8-3keywords=thorne+pyridoxal+5%27+phosphate

 

It is a form of B vitamin (B6?).  She advises taking two to three capsules a
day for about a week, then reducing to one a day until symptoms have
disappeared.  There are no negative side effects that we know of.  The cure
has been complete, but it may recur, in which case you take this product
again.  

 

Del

 

 

 

 

Brooks,
my husband, my dear husband is suffering from trigger finger of the ring
finger on the left hand, for the last 3 weeks. Nothing can be done with
conventional medicine for this problem. Can you please suggest something.
His symptoms are : very difficult to bend the finger from the first knuckle
away from the palm, if he bends the finger, it locks up, then he has to
manually unlock it. Intermittent pain. 

  Bless You,

   Glenda Mason

 

 

 



RE: CSre: list

2013-06-01 Thread Bob Banever
Sh.. You'll wake everybody up!

 

Bob

 

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From: Jane MacRoss [mailto:highfie...@internode.on.net] 
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 12:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSre: list

 

This is the first post for 11 days  //  Jane

 

Bob is this list just quiet? Have not heard anyone in a long time



RE: CSre: list

2013-05-31 Thread Bob Banever
It's just very quiet.  

 

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From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 8:34 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSre: list

 

Bob is this list just quiet? Have not heard anyone in a long time

 

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From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, May 10, 2013 5:52:27 PM
Subject: RE: CSNano silver used to decontaminate radioactive cesium in
Japan

It appears from this experiment that a good reverse osmosis (RO) filtration
system that includes nano silver in the mix of filter media will not only
filter out cesium but neutralize its radioactivity as well.  Very
impressive.  

-Original Message-
From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNano silver used to decontaminate radioactive cesium in Japan

http://coldfusionnow.org/field-work-of-cesium-decontamination-by-nano-silver
/

Not sure how this works, but since nano-silver is involved thought it 
might be of interest.

Marshall



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RE: CSNano silver used to decontaminate radioactive cesium in Japan

2013-05-10 Thread Bob Banever
It appears from this experiment that a good reverse osmosis (RO) filtration
system that includes nano silver in the mix of filter media will not only
filter out cesium but neutralize its radioactivity as well.  Very
impressive.  

-Original Message-
From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 9:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNano silver used to decontaminate radioactive cesium in Japan

http://coldfusionnow.org/field-work-of-cesium-decontamination-by-nano-silver
/

Not sure how this works, but since nano-silver is involved thought it 
might be of interest.

Marshall



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RE: CSblood cancer

2013-05-07 Thread Bob Banever
Is that the only therapy being used?

 

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From: Rod Samuelson [mailto:rsamuels...@cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSblood cancer

 

Leukemia is being treated with colloidal silver.  Please comment.

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

 

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RE: CSblood cancer

2013-05-07 Thread Bob Banever
That's wonderful.  I was going to add some ideas but because the CS appears
to be working I'll just let it be.  

 

Cheers.

 

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From: Monique Sauve [mailto:moniquesa...@shaw.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 7:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSblood cancer

 

Great to hear. Can you give more info.?  How much and for how long?  



On 5/7/2013 4:57 PM, Rod Samuelson wrote:

yes and his white blood count is almost normal

 


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From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 11:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSblood cancer

 

Is that the only therapy being used?

 


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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSblood cancer

 

Leukemia is being treated with colloidal silver.  Please comment.

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

 


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RE: CSTooth infection

2013-03-14 Thread Bob Banever
Be very careful of pulling wisdom teeth.  I would use a Godzilla zapping
device to get rid of any potential infections before I would pull any teeth.
You can damage the lingual (and other) nerves permanently if you aren't
careful and that would cause a lifetime of pain and suffering in your jaw
and tongue.  My lingual nerve was damaged from an injection of articaine for
a root canal procedure.  It was a full 7 years before I was able to heal the
nerve and those seven years were hell on earth.  Constant burning pain in
the tongue 24/7 along with many other horrific sensations and taste
alterations.  I'm fine now thanks to acupuncture, B vitamins and cannabis
(yes, cannabis is neurogenic, it causes nerves to grow).  I now use a
Godzilla whenever I have a painful tooth and it never fails to kill the
bacteria causing the problem whether in a root or tooth.  

 

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From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSTooth infection

 

And as one ages, one cares less about what others may think ~ life's too
short g.

 

N.

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From: jmillerwo...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:02:11 -0500
Subject: Re: CSTooth infection
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

It isn't that bad, Pat. I lost not only my wisdom tooth on one side, but I
also lost three others next to that wisdom tooth.. No one has commented; I
am still making new friends; I totally ignore it, and no one has asked me
about it.

In fact, I am glad for this reminder because I used to be so self-conscious
for much of my life. Somewhere along the way, I lost that
self-consciousness, maybe because I am so busy finding things I can do for
others. It is amazing how unimportant a tooth is compared to all the good
you do and all the love you share.

Joyce

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote:



I had to have a wisdom tooth extracted a couple of months ago.  It had had a
mercury filling removed and had ozone treatment and a partial crown a year
ago, but it became abscessed.  The dentist said that I had two choices, root
canal or extraction.  He said that he wouldn't have root canals for himself
or his family since the bacteria hides in the roots and even ozone cannot
get rid of all of it.  I hate having this huge gap and often quit smiling to
cover it (even though the kids say it doesn't really show.)  The dentist
said that I could be evaluated for an implant in 5 or 6 months, but that one
would cost $4,500.  I guess I'll have to get used to the gap.  = (

Pat 



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RE: CSTooth infection

2013-03-13 Thread Bob Banever
I cured myself of mercury poisoning using liquid zeolite.  I took 10 drops
in water three times a day for three weeks.  I felt better in 5 days but
continued for the 3 weeks.  I used the NCD brand.  There are powder forms
too.   To that I added activated charcoal (4 caps daily) and a heaping
tablespoonful of chlorella.  That's it and it worked like a charm.

 

Bob

 

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From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTooth infection

 

Cilantro can be used but a friend of mine, years ago, who did it, told me
that it needs to be made into a tea to work best.  She brought herself back
from the brink with this method once she had been diagnosed with serious
mercury poisoning.
PT

 

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From: Jess jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 13, 2013 7:38:41 PM
Subject: RE: CSTooth infection

I had my mercury fillings removed. don't do them all at once. there is a
product recommended to remove the mercury that gets into your body, one such
product is Pectasol Chelation Complex but I think you can also take
chlorella and cilantro.  others on the list may know what else is good for
mercury detox.  

 

how do you know you have digestive parasites?  are you taking a good
probiotic for your stomach and intestines?  garlic and ginger are also good.
Jess

 

From: Heather W [mailto:heatherwy...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 2:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSTooth infection

 

Thanks so much for the advice! This thread is so incredibly helpful!

I do trust my dentist. However, I wish it was that simple. I do not have
insurance or the thousands of dollars to takes for a root canal and crown. I
will use the dental zapper I just built then go back for another x-ray. I
did not ask him what it would cost if the infection was not there. Maybe
just a crown.

Also I have been having problems with digestive parasites.  And I'm thinking
lung parasites too. I made a zapper with toothbrushes. Should I make one
with sponges for digestive or lung purposes?  And what placement and for how
long should I use the zapper for those two areas to have the best effects?
Thanks again!

On Mar 13, 2013 12:47 PM, Heather W heatherwy...@gmail.com wrote:

I just got back from the dentist. He did an xray on my mercury amalgam
filling to see what it would cost to take it out. He said because of the
expanding and contracting of the filling I now have a crack down the tooth
and int ok the root. He said it is infected and could start bothering me
really soon, or not for a while. But it WILL end up being a problem. I am
wondering if anyone has had success in treating a tooth infection of this
magnitude with CS? And if so, what techniques did you use? Thank you in
advance for the advice!

Heather



RE: CSJuice fasts...

2013-02-07 Thread Bob Banever
Dee,

   Vegetables are real food used for nourishment as well as cleansing.  I
don't know where you read they are only for detox, but it is wrong.  Veggies
contain minerals, vitamins, and enzymes as well as some protein.  They are a
necessary part of everyone's diet.  In fact the bulk of your diet should be
based on plants, not animals.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSJuice fasts...

Sorry bob, but it makes perfect sense to me, having embarked on various
vegetable only diets - and feeling like rubbish.  dee


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 Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:59:25 -0800
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 Subject: RE: CSJuice fasts...
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 ...wrong wrong wrong...
 
 I read very recently, that the whole reason for eating vegetables
 is to detox the liver and system.  It is not to nourish, 
 
 
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RE: CSJuice fasts...

2013-02-06 Thread Bob Banever
Hi Nenah,

 

 Yes it's true some people do worse with a raw food diet, vegetarian or
otherwise.  It is most important to chew our food well so as to warm and
digest most of it before it goes into the stomach.  It becomes much easier
for us to assimilate that way and places less stress on our body.   If
everyone would simply masticate their food 20, 30 or more times before
swallowing we would have a more peaceful world.  

 

Cheers.

 

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From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSJuice fasts...

 

Bob wrote: Juice fasts can be very beneficial for those who are overheating
or have too much fire or yang. Many people are like that which is why juice
fasting can be so beneficial. I would agree that cold, and empty yin
conditions would not benefit or might get worse. Certainly eating cold food
such as ice cream, smoothies, etc are never beneficial except in those
people who might temporarily benefit from eating cold and/or raw food.
Generally, eating a balance of raw/cooked food is good for everyone. It is
always important to chew your food well and eat organically raised food as
much as possible. Chewing cooks the food before it goes down and enzymes
in the food and saliva break it down further. 



Bob,

I completely agree with you about raw food being cold to the body. I love
blending my salads and adore leafy green salads, but I always feel better
when I eat cooked meat and some cooked veggies too.

 

This is one reason I take issue with raw foodists (or any dogmatic position
on what one should be eating). In my experience, most raw foodists have
acted as though that way of eating will help everyone, and that if you can't
do it, keep on doing it until you feel better.

 

But some people NEVER get better from a completely raw diet, especially a
raw vegetarian diet. 

 

Nenah



RE: CSJuice fasts...

2013-02-06 Thread Bob Banever
Lena,

 

 I was a strict macrobiotic while living in Boston going to college.
Studied with Michio Kushi for several years.  Some of the things they
practice make sense!

 

Bob

 

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From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:46 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSJuice fasts...

 

Hmmm.

I'll ruminate on that! =)

In macrobiotics, they always said 'chew your drink and drink your food'.

 

Be well,

Léna

On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Bob Banever wrote:





Hi Nenah,

 

 Yes it’s true some people do worse with a raw food diet, vegetarian or
otherwise.  It is most important to chew our food well so as to warm and
digest most of it before it goes into the stomach.  It becomes much easier
for us to assimilate that way and places less stress on our body.   If
everyone would simply masticate their food 20, 30 or more times before
swallowing we would have a more peaceful world.  

 

Cheers.

 

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From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSJuice fasts...

 

Bob wrote: Juice fasts can be very beneficial for those who are overheating
or have too much fire or yang. Many people are like that which is why juice
fasting can be so beneficial. I would agree that cold, and empty yin
conditions would not benefit or might get worse. Certainly eating cold food
such as ice cream, smoothies, etc are never beneficial except in those
people who might temporarily benefit from eating cold and/or raw food.
Generally, eating a balance of raw/cooked food is good for everyone. It is
always important to chew your food well and eat organically raised food as
much as possible. Chewing “cooks” the food before it goes down and enzymes
in the food and saliva break it down further. 



Bob,

I completely agree with you about raw food being cold to the body. I love
blending my salads and adore leafy green salads, but I always feel better
when I eat cooked meat and some cooked veggies too.

 

This is one reason I take issue with raw foodists (or any dogmatic position
on what one “should” be eating). In my experience, most raw foodists have
acted as though that way of eating will help everyone, and that if you can’t
do it, keep on doing it until you feel better.

 

But some people NEVER get better from a completely raw diet, especially a
raw vegetarian diet. 

 

Nenah

 



RE: CSJuice fasts...

2013-02-05 Thread Bob Banever
PT.

 

   Juice fasts can be very beneficial for those who are overheating or have
too much fire or yang.  Many people are like that which is why juice fasting
can be so beneficial.  I would agree that cold, and empty  yin conditions
would not benefit or might get worse.  Certainly eating cold food such as
ice cream, smoothies, etc are never beneficial except in those people who
might temporarily benefit from eating cold and/or raw food.  Generally,
eating a balance of raw/cooked food is good for everyone.  It is always
important to chew your food well and eat organically raised food as much as
possible.  Chewing cooks the food before it goes down and enzymes in the
food and saliva break it down further.  Where did you get your acupuncture
training?  I taught for 6 years at The New England School of Acupuncture.

 

Cheers.

 

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From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:57 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSJuice fasts...

 

Hi Mike,
I don't do juice fasts because when I was in Acupuncture school we saw too
many long term vegetarians and raw foodists with severe health issues whose
systems had to be trained to digest other foods again.  Digestion is
basically a fermentation process.  That means that when we eat our bodies
must bring the temperature (physical and thermodynamic) of the food to the
temperature of the body in order to ferment/digest it.  If the food is
physically or thermodynamically cold it must be warmed and that takes
energy.  Over time the digestive system becomes impacted and functions less
efficiently and health issues ensue.
Very simplified to be sure but still true.
PT

 

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From: M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, February 5, 2013 4:37:20 PM
Subject: CSJuice fasts...

Hi folks,

Seeing as how quiet things have been for several days, I'd like to toss
a subject into the ring...

Anybody got experience or observed others doing juice fasts or other
variants on a mostly to all raw veggie, nut, fruit diet, with perhaps
just a little dairy/eggs/fish thrown in? I'm talking on the order of 80%
raw or more?

What's the longest pure juice fast you've done or seen?

Areas I'm most interested in are how they handled willpower issues,
getting along with immediate family, excellent resources, and I don't
know what else?

There's a documentary called Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead on Hulu that
offers some good inspiration. Any other media, books, websites?

What sort of results have you seen and what kind of conditions have
shown improvement... or not?

Thanks!

Be well,

Mike D.





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RE: CSPinworms

2013-01-27 Thread Bob Banever
DE will only work if you have worms in your intestines.  Zeolite might work
better as micronized or liquid zeolites are small enough to get into the
bloodstream.

 

Bob

 

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From: Paul Steel [mailto:pste...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPinworms

 

I have lyme and think i have had pinworms for a long time and just figured
out that i have them...I have used DE quite a bit over the last few
years...So not sure it really helped with this...I will start adding a
heaping tablespoon to my morning smoothie again though...thanks

 

 

Paul Steel

h 508.520.6905

c 508.922.0519

The harder you work the luckier you get!

 

 

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: CSPinworms


I wonder if DE would work if you have any hanging around

Katherine
Legacy Manor
The Way Food Used to Taste
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about getting pin x at the drug store but wondering if there is any other
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RE: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery

2013-01-23 Thread Bob Banever
Nenah,

 

 All you need to rid yourself of a bacterial tooth or tooth root
infection is a flashlight battery, some wires, sponges, and elastic bands.
Attach the wires to either end of the battery with solder (not 9 volts. too
stong!), strip the ends and attach sponges to cover them, wrap elastic bands
around to hold them in place.  Wet them with some salt water and apply them
to either side of the tooth that is infected.   Hold them in place for 4 or
5 minutes, then switch them around (to change the polarity).  After another
4 or 5 minutes you're done.  Repeat the next day or as needed.  One session
is usually sufficient although I always do two or three just to make sure.
It never fails.  Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for info
and schematics if you're interested.

 

Bob

 

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From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:nenahsyl...@cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:31 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery

 

People have been talking about using electrical current directly in the
mouth using wires or pads to carry the current.

 

Current directly in the mouth never felt good to me. So here's what I do: I
put electrode patches on the OUTSIDE of either cheek, or somewhere at the
jaw where the pain is the strongest. Inside my mouth is salt water that I
hold for the duration of the session. The salt water ensures good
conduction, as the electrical current does reach all areas of the mouth. I
make sure to start with my mouth about half filled with salt water, because
by the time the session is over my mouth is completely filled with liquid on
account of increased saliva production.

 

Of course, I spit out the water when I'm finished, into the trash.

 

Each session ranges from 30 - 60  minutes, however long I can hold the salt
water. Even after one session I feel relief.

 

For these sessions, I use a portable frequency generator (a rife machine)
that I wear around my waist. Frequencies used are commonly all below 1000
hertz. This is important, because the lower frequencies have longer
wavelengths and so pass through thicker structures than the higher
frequencies do. However, within these parameters, it appears that more
important than the frequency itself is the salt water, which conducts the
current.

 

I suppose a zapper-type instrument or the Tennant Biomodulator (which I own
and use a lot) would suffice as well.

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011)

Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)

VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification

 http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com;
http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com 



RE: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery

2013-01-23 Thread Bob Banever
Jim,

 

A Tens unit will not work.  You need DC current.  A 1 ½ or 3 volt
battery works well.  Not 9 volts, way too strong and dangerous. 

 

Bob

 

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From: Jim Holmes [mailto:gooogleis...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS How I cured my abscessed tooth with a double A battery

 

Very interesting.  I am interested in knowing what happens long term.  

I wonder if a TENS device could be used in the same manner.  Higher voltage,
pulsed.

They even come with conductive pads.  

Very pure distilled water is an insulator.  


Lois,

Thank you for the info.  I am interested in follow up.  It stopped it.  Now,
can the nerve recover full functioning?  

May I have your permission to copy and paste your mail complete and
unaltered except to remove anything you desire?

Later,
   Jim 




On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:53 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 1/20/2013 6:35:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net writes:

Hi,
Anyone know if DMSO and homemade silver could help an abscessed tooth and
prevent a root canal? If so what would be the protocol please.
Thanks, Sandy  

  { It's  a yahoo group  germkillersignin
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/?v=1t=sear
chch=webpub=groupssec=groupslk=1  Hi Sandy,  I cured a really
bad abscess with a double A battery. Had them before  had to take mega
doses of antibiotics before I started learning about alternatives. 

This is what I did.---  {{I used it  let Bg know on the electricgermkiller
sit.--It was put in the archive with my instructions. he asked for pictures
of how I built it but I never took any  sent them..I should but it is so
easy-}}I took about 6-8 inches of lamp wire---pulled it in
halfcleaned the rubber / plastic  on each end of both wires--{ about 3/4
inches }   I soldered one end of one wire to the pos. post on the battery 
one end of the other wire on the negative end On the other bare ends I
wrapped a small piece of cotton cloth. { I used a needle  thread to keep it
in place |   I soaked the cloth end of each wire in distilled water-Put
the cloth end of one wire in my mouth as close to the abscess as I could get
it  the other wire outside on the big bump on my jaw..I held them in
place for 5 mins. then switched positions ---inside wire out * outside wire
in {thus changing the polarity }   held it for 5 mins. . 

   I did this in the evening before bed time..rinsed my mouth with hydrogen
peroxide / distilled water  then CS /EIS...   I did the same thing the next
morning  again in the eveningThe next morning when I got up the
swelling was almost gone  no more problems since...This was several months
agoNO- you can't feel a thing as far as electric current passing through
the jaw... I even used it to cure my Grandson's cold sore  an infected big
toe Good luck--Lois  

 



RE: CSsilver and DMSO for abcessed tooth

2013-01-20 Thread Bob Banever
The best way to kill an infection in the root of a tooth is by electricity.
All you need is a flashlight battery or at the most a 6 volt lantern battery
but NOT 9 volts. too strong and dangerous.  Go to microelectricitygermkiller
group on Yahoo for instructions on how to make a Godzilla unit.  Very simple
with battery, wires, sponges and elastic bands.  Two 8 minute sessions is
all it takes.  Good luck.

 

Bob

 

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From: mgperrault [mailto:mgperra...@aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSsilver and DMSO for abcessed tooth

 

On 1/20/2013 4:35 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST wrote:

Hi,
Anyone know if DMSO and homemade silver could help an abscessed tooth and
prevent a root canal? If so what would be the protocol please.
Thanks, Sandy

Seems like it would work, but havent had much success with that.  On the
other hand, DC zapping, godzilla style, using an inexpensive lantern battery
and sponges seems to work pretty well.  Clove oil is pretty effective.  DMSO
with clove and CS might be worth an experiment.  An inexpensive laser shows
promise.  You can get a certain dye and use this with a laser and this is
supposed to be effective.   Ozone is said to work wonders, but the problem
is you cant breath it or it makes havoc with your lungs.   I hold my breath,
delivering the ozone through a small tube.  But you would really have to
work this out, and be consistent.



RE: CSOil of Oregano and colds/the sugar cure!

2013-01-01 Thread Bob Banever
Here is a four hour cold cure using sugar!  Go to health-science-spirit.com.
Research from George Last shows that common sugar will cure a cold and even
influenza.  Also, if you want to shorten the duration of a cold get some
zinc acetate lozenges (called Zinx).  Google this for more info.  They work,
I've used them successfully a couple of times.  Once at the first sign I
took them and it never developed, another after a day of symptoms I took
them (one dissolved in the mouth every two hours) and it was gone in two
days with the symptoms greatly diminished.

 

Bob

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 12:46 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOil of Oregano and colds

 

Every scrap of info on what is working for others is so helpful.

Thanks for sharing. So much to learn!

 

On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

Actually I've had to revise my original post as I have persevered with the
oil of oregano and have improved enormously in this week.  I just had a
couple of grotty days but now - a week later - there are almost no cold
symptoms at all--I'm happy to say.  I have taken o of o two or three times a
day, plus CS plus lemon balm and am now pleased with the results. Compared
to two people who I caught the cold from (they actually had a truly bad
'flu) my recovery is miraculous!  They had it for six weeks and still have
bad coughs, whereas I didn't really get a cough--just a tightness in the
chest which is now easing up.  A Happy New Year to you too.  Kind regards,
dee


 From: 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 10:02:16 -0500

 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSOil of Oregano and colds
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com

 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 07:02:17 -0800


 Hi Dot,
 I have to appologize profusely for not getting back to you afew months
ago.
 I had the oportunity to move into a wonderful old farm house down the
 road from me and I had to mobilize the family, livestock and friends
 rather quickly, if you call a two month move quick LOL!
 I've been tryinng to destess just a little over the holiday but hope
 to be back up to speed by tomorrow when the world comes back to work.
 What are the symptoms of your cold?
 Oregano usually works only too well but I've had the chance to try
 some new immune system boosters latelytoo, gano, mushroom extracts to
 be precise.
 The blend I'm using has the Agaricus Blazarai in it.
 There isn't much on the web about it yet because it seems to be so new
 the20 years of research results aren't in yet.

 I've been sticking to mostly vegetarian foods lately too and my immune
 system is pretty good so maybe those green veges are helping.

 I'm still detoxing from that root canal that was infected. I'm taking
 the carnivora now and it is really working to clean up all that
 resdual infection and dead white blood cell (pus) stuff that has been
 over taxing my lymph.
 Interesting experience, but I'm thankful it's truly almost gone now.
 That muscadine grape sed lotion I was telling you about is still a
 great relief from the inflamation issues but it's mostly palliative,
 it doesn't go to the underlying issues of the infection but it
 certainly lets my body have a rest.

 Happy New Year, stay warm.
 Tara





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RE: CSDill pickle juice 4 colds Try a Hot Toddy BS Ep Salts bath

2012-12-29 Thread Bob Banever
Might be a combination of vinegar and the probiotics in the juice.  

 

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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDill pickle juice 4 colds Try a Hot Toddy  BS  Ep Salts
bath

 

Do you think that might be something to do with vinegar Lois?  I must say
that I haven't had a cold for about seven or even eight years - but this bug
seems to be something else!  Probably a 'super bug' as they say.  dee



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In a message dated 12/29/2012 6:23:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
d...@deetroy.org writes:

PS  cant bath-we only have a shower here!



If you can't do the bath, put the mix in a tub  soak your feet  as much of
your legs as you can.. Just like with Earthing, The feet are a doorway...
  Here's a good one I got a long time ago from a news letter I get . The
writer said they haven't had a cold in 30 yrs using it-Consume two
tablespoons of cold Dill Pickle Juice each morning when you get up-{ The
DPJ protocol } :-)
 The news letter writer did a search on it  found that people also use dill
pickle juice for upset stomach  hangovers...  { Just found it interesting..
I haven't had a cold for near 5 + yrs since I found out about CS. I take a
big swig every time I go out where there might be someone ill. }  Lois



RE: CSOil of Oregano and colds

2012-12-27 Thread Bob Banever
Thanks Kathy.  That's a lot of garlic!

 

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From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 3:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOil of Oregano and colds

 

I take 22 capules of garlic power, plus an ultimate cayenne, from
Swanson(100,000 HU) 3-4 times a day, tapering down as the days go by.  I
don't know how its going to work in the big picture, I take it in capsule,
but you can do the tea if you can stand it.  If the cayenne burns your
stomach, a piece of bread will help.  

- Original Message - 

From: Bob Banever mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:13 PM

Subject: RE: CSOil of Oregano and colds

 

Kathy,

 

 Please let us know how the pepper and garlic powder work out.  I'm
battling a lung infection right now.  How much of each do you take?  In
capsules, tea, etc?  Thanks.

 

Bob

 


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From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOil of Oregano and colds

 

I'm expermenting with cayenne pepper and garlic poweder for the first time,
I found that I have to take  it like you would an anti-botic, 4-5 times a
day for the first day and can cut down slowly I am on my third day, it got
rid of most of the lung infection (the green).  I'm going to stay on it for
another couple days to be sure.  I really want to get off anti-botics

Kathy 

- Original Message - 

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:21 PM

Subject: CSOil of Oregano and colds

 

Just to say that I was told that oil of oregano would 'stop a cold in its
tracks' but this is not true.  I have just started a cold and used this
almost immediately and the cold is getting steadily worse.  I am also using
CS with DMSO but still have the cold.  Just a snippet to say that natural
remedies are not always successful either.  Dee 



RE: CSCure for cancer and hiv by using Vaccine

2012-12-27 Thread Bob Banever
My beloved dog Max,  a bichon frise, got AIHA (hemolytic anemia) right after
a rabies vaccine.  Although he lived for many years after that, I had to
spend over 12 thousand dollars on vet bills for transfusions and medical
care to keep him alive over the years.  He died at 16 years of age from
congestive heart failure but the point being vaccines are DEADLY for any
living thing.

 

Bob

 

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From: Patricia Cloonan [mailto:pacloo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCure for cancer and hiv by using Vaccine

 

EXACTLY Vicki...I couldn't agree more...vaccines are NEVER the answer.

 

Patty



 

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 5:46 PM, vicki hood mutt...@isp.com wrote:

Considering my stepgrandson died a few days after a vaccine(3 monthsof age)
and I have MS immediately after a vaccine, my dear friend gets lupus a few
days after a vacine, several friends get leukemia immedistely after a
vaccine, my girlfriends daughter gets juvenile arthritus right after
vaccine, my dogs get parvo from the parvo vaccine, numerous people get fever
and epilesy right after a vaccine, people get the flu from the flu vaccine,
gardisil causes untold death and sickness, babies are required to have some
67 vaccines before school,  mercury ruins the brain as does formaldehyde,
aluminum, msg, cross species pus and other disgusting ingredients in
vaccines, i would be very careful about this recommendation.  You could be
sending untold damage and death by a false claim.  The pharma industry
thrives on illness NOT on wellness.  I cannot recieve a 2 hour advertisement
for sickness and death as my computer service does not have that kind of
capability.  I do hope others respond.  My studies span years and years
because of the study of damage from vaccines.  I would suggest a site
written by lots of doctors who have health as an interest and have delved
into the vaccine question.  try checking the ingredients in vaccines by
--vaclib.org---there are even forms to opt out of school vaccines.
Our constitution does not allow a foreign substance pumped into our bodies
as schools and others would have us believe.  Forced vaccines on the agenda?
I will do whatever it takes for protection against this sellout by our own
governent.  They can take that hypo and put it where the sun don't shine.
Sincerely,  Vicki Hood

- Original Message - 

From: james mailto:james7...@hotmail.com  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 11:29 PM

Subject: CSCure for cancer and hiv by using Vaccine

 

 Hi everybody,

 

I would like everybody to know about this research doctor who invented a
vaccine(s) that can cure diseases like HIV, cancer and others.

 

 

His name is SAM Chachoua

 

One of the youtube video is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNoT8lb3aIs
(2hours)

 

He really explains the cause of cancer.

 

james

 



RE: CSAmerican Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution)

2012-12-27 Thread Bob Banever
I have used American Biotech Labs Ag404 and it always has a bitter taste to
it.  Not offensively bitter but it is always there.  Seemed to work well for
me.  Cured me of a good poisoning in a few hours.  Good luck.

 

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From: Simonsen, John [mailto:john.simon...@oregonstate.edu] 
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSAmerican Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution)

 

TDS only measures ionic silver. The ASAP product is mostly metallic silver
in colloidal form. So very low conductivity. You would need a different (and
more expensive) analytical method to determine the total Ag in the ASAP. 

 

John

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From: Scotty [scottie592...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 7:46 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAmerican Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution)


It was probably 10ppm coming out of the brewing process and after
stabilization settled in at the common 3ppm. Still works at 3ppm! Seems kind
of like deceptive labeling though, eh?


Scotty

Have a great day!

 



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From: Alex Flex aflex...@gmail.com
Subject: CSAmerican Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2012, 9:37 AM

Hello List,

I recently bought two bottles of Ag4O4 colloidal silver from American
Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10PPM Silver Solution) and I wanted to share my
experience and get an opinion.

I noticed that there was no taste of this, it was like tasting regular
water... SO i went and took my TDS meter and it measured 3ppm  only!!

Could anybody tell me if this is some kind of mistake... ? Or has anybody
before seen such measure?

Alex



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RE: CSOil of Oregano and colds

2012-12-26 Thread Bob Banever
Kathy,

 

 Please let us know how the pepper and garlic powder work out.  I'm
battling a lung infection right now.  How much of each do you take?  In
capsules, tea, etc?  Thanks.

 

Bob

 

  _  

From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOil of Oregano and colds

 

I'm expermenting with cayenne pepper and garlic poweder for the first time,
I found that I have to take  it like you would an anti-botic, 4-5 times a
day for the first day and can cut down slowly I am on my third day, it got
rid of most of the lung infection (the green).  I'm going to stay on it for
another couple days to be sure.  I really want to get off anti-botics

Kathy 

- Original Message - 

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:21 PM

Subject: CSOil of Oregano and colds

 

Just to say that I was told that oil of oregano would 'stop a cold in its
tracks' but this is not true.  I have just started a cold and used this
almost immediately and the cold is getting steadily worse.  I am also using
CS with DMSO but still have the cold.  Just a snippet to say that natural
remedies are not always successful either.  Dee 



RE: Annatto //Re: CSVit D and K2

2012-12-11 Thread Bob Banever
I think you are confusing natto with annatto.  Natto is a fermented soy
probiotic that is a very strong proteolytic enzyme.  Helps to thin the blood
and unblock clogged arteries.  Annatto is a red vegetable dye but I don't
think it's from the same source.

 

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From: Rachel Hawkridge [mailto:rayeh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:25 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Annatto //Re: CSVit D and K2

 

yep, it's natto.



 

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
wrote:

Perhaps it was natto?  dee



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From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:16:47 +1100
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Annatto //Re: CSVit D and K2
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:17:13 -0800



I thought annatto was a red colouring powder:
 
http://fedup.com.au/factsheets/additive-and-natural-chemical-factsheets/160b
-annatto

oh dear, yes it is

Jane

  
  Thank you Dee.  I do take the Mercola Vit K2 with MK7 from  annato
(fermented soy) in the morning and the D3 in the evening; so from  now on, i
will shift the D3 in the morning now.  This is wonderful  info.  
 Melly




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Peace . . .

Rachel Hawkridge
in a NE Seattle 'burb






RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY

2012-12-07 Thread Bob Banever
Bravo.

 

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From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 2:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY

 

I started a new topic so I could air my views on this ridiculous Vit D
deficiency BS.

 

I live in Australia for Christ sake, we get enough sun here that if you
walked around under it for too long your body fluids would start to simmer,
and eventually boil inside your damn skin, and they waffle on and diagnose
people with Vit D deficiency.??  Shear and utter lunacy!!!

 

Work it out for heavens sake.  WHY and HOW can Homo Sapien in the 21st
century possibly be lacking in ANY vitamin, AND mineral if it comes to that,
because I have no doubt we are surely lacking in bucket loads of those too
if they cared to investigate???

 

We are slowly being poisoned, deprived of natural nutrients in pretty much
EVERYTHING we drink and consume, not forgetting those microwave terminators
that we put food and liquid into before consumption.

 

If this was a natural occurrence, we would never have progressed past the
Stone Age???

 

This lacking of vitamins and minerals is being forced upon every Homo Sapien
on the planet pretty much, and with the dollar and profit as motivation.

 

There is so much BS being spread around by those little people in their
white dust coats that people are actually believing everything some
organisation puts out.

 

The FDA, our TGA and any other funded mob of laboratory Frankensteins all
have vested interests in something OTHER than your and my health in mind!!

 

There, I've got that off my chest, nobody need reply, just considered it was
time for a voice of sanity and reason to be heard.

 

 

 

N.



RE: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?

2012-12-06 Thread Bob Banever
If Vit.D3 is toxic then you'd better stay out of the sun.  Your body
produces about 10,000 IU's in an hour of sunshine.  I've been taking
8000IU's daily for a couple of years with no ill effects that I can feel or
see.

-Original Message-
From: André Juthe [mailto:andre.ju...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?

Ok so the FDA's recommendations of vitamin D3 are very wrong? This is
a bold claim. Do you have a some references for this?

/AJ

2012/12/6 sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com:
 André Juthe wrote:

 Everything including water is bad if it is is taken in too high does,
 are you claiming that even eating according to the recommendations of
 FDA is unhealthy?



 If you mean eating according to the USDA food guidelines, I certainly do
 think it is un healthy. LOL
 sol



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RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO

2012-12-06 Thread Bob Banever
Sandy,

 

 You can try putting a half dropper full of CS into each nostril lying
flat on your back with your head over the edge of a bed.  Look from side to
side to get the CS into the sinus cavity.  Do this for three minutes a
couple times a day.  After gargle with hydrogen peroxide to kill any
bacteria in the throat.  Good luck.

 

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From: JERRY PRENDERGAST [mailto:jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 6:59 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO

 

Hi, 
Just bought a Silver-Gen and have been using  the silver in my mouth and
taking 2 oz two times a day. I have not seen improvement.
I would like to know how others have used DMSO and Silver. thinking that I
might need the penetration to see sucess.
Also is there a discussion group or web site that would  have good knowledge
on DMSO and CS.

I have post nasal drip and dry sore mouth. Also digestive problems.
Also I would like any help for external use for hip pain.
Thanks a lot. Sandy





RE: CSreverse osmosis water

2012-12-03 Thread Bob Banever
Kathy,

 

 You can add minerals to each glass of water you use after filtration OR
there are filters on the market now that remineralize (alkalinize) the water
that has been RO filtered.  Good luck.  Google alkalinizing filters.

 

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From: bob Larson [mailto:bobli...@att.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 2:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSreverse osmosis water

 

concentrace

 


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From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 1:54 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSreverse osmosis water

I've been using reverse osmosis water for years and just found out that all
the minerals are taken out of it.  I need some infput as to how to
re-mineralize it..thanks...Kathy



RE: CSGiardia, etc

2012-12-02 Thread Bob Banever
I'm not sure if CS would be effective against parasites including these.  CS
kills single celled organisms only.   MMS would be effective though
(activated chlorine dioxide).  Good luck.

 

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From: finplan65 [mailto:finpla...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 9:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSGiardia, etc

 

Is there one type-of the three types- of silver that has been found to be
more effective internally against such undesirables as Giardia and tapeworm
cysts? Thank you for all the info found in this forum.



RE: CSSpecial CS Silvercillin patent (*99% silver particles) - Possible to produce it at home?

2012-11-28 Thread Bob Banever
Alex,

 

 I don't know why you would want 100% particulate silver in the first
place.  It is the silver ions that do the killing of pathogens.  Particles
must be ionized before they do anything otherwise they are inert.  Silver
ions hold a positive charge and are attracted to negatively charged
pathogens (most are).  Particles have no charge thus no attraction.  Silver
must come in contact with a pathogen to destroy it.  There are some
interesting silver solutions on the market now. one is silver tetroxide
Ag4O4.  This is more bioavailable than other forms.  It can steal multiple
electrons at a time as opposed to ionic silver which only steals one, this
making it more active.  Go to alternative-health-concepts.com for more info.
Good luck.

 

Bob

 

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From: MaryAnn Helland [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 7:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSpecial CS Silvercillin patent (*99% silver particles) -
Possible to produce it at home?

 

Hi Alex.  Welcome to our list.  I can't answer your questions, but wanted to
welcome you to the group.

MA

 

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From: Alex Flex aflex...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 28, 2012 1:45:23 PM
Subject: CSSpecial CS Silvercillin patent (*99% silver particles) -
Possible to produce it at home?

Hello My name is Alex iam new here.

As some of you may know there is a patent for Silvercillin (I think its
http://www.google.com/patents/US7135195 ).

Questions:

a.) If iam not mistaken whats special about this CS is that is has 99%
Silver Particles and not IONS, can somebody please confirm this?
b.) Id like to know if I can make this at home Iam willing to invest some
money if necessary, or perhaps buy a generator capable of doing this?
c.) If the answer to B is that the procedure is very complex, does anybody
know of lab proof CS manufacturers that can deliver this at a reasonable
price?

Thanks all!!!

-- Alex


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RE: CSFDA Closures

2012-11-28 Thread Bob Banever
The GMO vote in CA was completely rigged.  You do realize that over 3.3
million votes have not been counted yet, do you not?  The CA Sec of State is
claiming that all votes will be tallied by Dec.7th.  I'll believe it when I
see it but the entire process is rigged to the highest bidder.

 

  _  

From: dAVId [mailto:dhall...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSFDA Closures

 

I think the latest voting in California explains many of our problems, they
vetoed the opportunity to have listed GMO products on the label.  Who pray
tell would not want that???   Monsanto spent eight million dollars paying
voters to vote it down.  As long as we allow the sale of votes, government
is for sale as is most of our politicians.  Unfortunately ninety nine
percent of folks only react, and I do not see many reacting to bigger and
more government.  Most folks have a cell phone in their ear, and sucking on
their own bottle of water.  talk about insecurity, So we may be goners.
david lubbock tx.  

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Congress also has a role to play here.  They could cut back the FDA if they
wanted to.

PT

 

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From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, November 28, 2012 5:31:02 PM
Subject: Re: CSFDA Closures


I so agree, Melly.  We don't have a Pres looking out for us and our dear
Pres believes in the largest government money can buy (more bureaucrats)
controlling as many citizens and every facet of their lives as possible.
Nor do we have a Congress that has any backbone or principles and they are
not at all willing to stand up for us.  We are screwed.  It is just a matter
of time now.  What I really resent is how the government continues to just
write rules and/or regulations and seems to consider our
Congress/Constitution an irritant at best and irrevelant at worst.  That
effectively removes our voices from having any influence in any possible
legislation.   Lola H.  

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Lola,

 

What i am afraid of is that this may be only the beginning, and eventually
they will force all the others too.  They stopped rain-tree from importing.
Others import too.  They find excuses on imported goods being risky.

 

Melly

 

 



RE: CSFDA Closures

2012-11-28 Thread Bob Banever
One by one the FDA nazi goons under the direction of our esteemed President
with the approval of congress are attacking and taking away our ability to
treat and heal ourselves, and even to prevent illness before it starts.
They are poisoning our food and water with GMO's, fluoride, barium, and
aluminum making it almost impossible for the average person to ingest
anything that isn't tainted in some way.  This is by design.  Then, after
making us sick, they take away our ability to treat and heal ourselves and
our loved ones.  Can you think of anything more evil in its intent?   I for
one cannot.  The governments job is to protect its citizens. instead they
are now in the business of murdering us.  I'm not joking folks.  This is the
reality we are living in.  Monsanto, big pharma, and the NOW are in
partnership to cull the population and give millions of new customers to the
pharma companies so they can poison us with their dangerous and ineffectual
drugs making trillions on us before we die.

 

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From: phoenix23002 tds.net [mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSFDA Closures

 

I so agree, Melly.  We don't have a Pres looking out for us and our dear
Pres believes in the largest government money can buy (more bureaucrats)
controlling as many citizens and every facet of their lives as possible.
Nor do we have a Congress that has any backbone or principles and they are
not at all willing to stand up for us.  We are screwed.  It is just a matter
of time now.  What I really resent is how the government continues to just
write rules and/or regulations and seems to consider our
Congress/Constitution an irritant at best and irrevelant at worst.  That
effectively removes our voices from having any influence in any possible
legislation.   Lola H.  

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Lola,

 

What i am afraid of is that this may be only the beginning, and eventually
they will force all the others too.  They stopped rain-tree from importing.
Others import too.  They find excuses on imported goods being risky.

 

Melly

 



RE: CSFDA Closures

2012-11-28 Thread Bob Banever
Correction to my last post.. NOW should be NWO (New World Order).  BTW..
GMO's poison us two ways. by forcing us to ingest a foreign mutated protein
AND by ingesting large amounts of glyphosphate and other herbacides that are
used heavily on GM crops.

 

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From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSFDA Closures

 

One by one the FDA nazi goons under the direction of our esteemed President
with the approval of congress are attacking and taking away our ability to
treat and heal ourselves, and even to prevent illness before it starts.
They are poisoning our food and water with GMO's, fluoride, barium, and
aluminum making it almost impossible for the average person to ingest
anything that isn't tainted in some way.  This is by design.  Then, after
making us sick, they take away our ability to treat and heal ourselves and
our loved ones.  Can you think of anything more evil in its intent?   I for
one cannot.  The governments job is to protect its citizens. instead they
are now in the business of murdering us.  I'm not joking folks.  This is the
reality we are living in.  Monsanto, big pharma, and the NOW are in
partnership to cull the population and give millions of new customers to the
pharma companies so they can poison us with their dangerous and ineffectual
drugs making trillions on us before we die.

 

  _  

From: phoenix23002 tds.net [mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSFDA Closures

 

I so agree, Melly.  We don't have a Pres looking out for us and our dear
Pres believes in the largest government money can buy (more bureaucrats)
controlling as many citizens and every facet of their lives as possible.
Nor do we have a Congress that has any backbone or principles and they are
not at all willing to stand up for us.  We are screwed.  It is just a matter
of time now.  What I really resent is how the government continues to just
write rules and/or regulations and seems to consider our
Congress/Constitution an irritant at best and irrevelant at worst.  That
effectively removes our voices from having any influence in any possible
legislation.   Lola H.  

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Lola,

 

What i am afraid of is that this may be only the beginning, and eventually
they will force all the others too.  They stopped rain-tree from importing.
Others import too.  They find excuses on imported goods being risky.

 

Melly

 



RE: CSMSM

2012-11-27 Thread Bob Banever
Marshall,

 

 I'm not sure what I have.  I haven't had any fever but I'm coughing a
lot and in the Am cough up thick mucous.  I have felt dizzy, weak, and achy
like I have a fever but I don't have one.  In any case I've been nebulizing
3 - 4 times daily and ingesting about 3 - 4 T daily as well.  Perhaps I
should ingest more?  I'm 5 days into this. this is the sickest I've been in
over 40 years.  Very strange.  Thanks for your input.

 

Bob

 

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From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:44 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMSM

 

Everyone in my family has been 100% effective in stopping the flu in its
tracks with CS over the last decade.

Marshall

On 11/23/2012 6:06 PM, Bob Banever wrote: 

Has anyone had any luck using CS for the flu?  If so have you ever nebulized
it?  I'm suffering from some sort of respiratory infection that came on
rather suddenly.  Fever of 99F, coughing, dizziness, joint pains etc.
Thanks.

 

Bob 

 

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From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMSM

 

GreatSKU.com . He even offered free shipping and no state sales tax to worry
about. I bought a bunch of red and green lasers from him with several
orders, no problems except it took about one week to receive the orders. My
credit card Co. got excited about China purchases, sent me a notice of
strange charges.

 

In a message dated 11/22/2012 4:17:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jessi...@optonline.net writes:

Brickey, did you buy the lasers from China online?  if so what web site?
thanks, Jess

 

Thanks, Brickey. Where can I find out more information? No, I did not use
Andreas training.  bpou...@rogers.com had a bunch of files on lasers/leds
which she sent to anyone who asked. My printer was down so I did not save
the downloads. She is the Canadian Coordinator, Global Recognition Campaign.
Her PC crashed right after she sent me the files.  One file I saved is from
Light Energy Co, 18005444826 on Healing With Single Frequency Light. He has
a web site if you goggle it. Another one is Laser Energetic Detoxification,
Eve Greenberg, staff reporter for explore dated November 6, 2006. This is
the file that reports on DR Cowdens allergy elimination methods.

Brickey

 

  _  

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2629/5414 - Release Date: 11/23/12

 



RE: CSMSM

2012-11-23 Thread Bob Banever
Has anyone had any luck using CS for the flu?  If so have you ever nebulized
it?  I'm suffering from some sort of respiratory infection that came on
rather suddenly.  Fever of 99F, coughing, dizziness, joint pains etc.
Thanks.

 

Bob 

 

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From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMSM

 

GreatSKU.com . He even offered free shipping and no state sales tax to worry
about. I bought a bunch of red and green lasers from him with several
orders, no problems except it took about one week to receive the orders. My
credit card Co. got excited about China purchases, sent me a notice of
strange charges.

 

In a message dated 11/22/2012 4:17:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jessi...@optonline.net writes:

Brickey, did you buy the lasers from China online?  if so what web site?
thanks, Jess

 

Thanks, Brickey. Where can I find out more information? No, I did not use
Andreas training.  bpou...@rogers.com had a bunch of files on lasers/leds
which she sent to anyone who asked. My printer was down so I did not save
the downloads. She is the Canadian Coordinator, Global Recognition Campaign.
Her PC crashed right after she sent me the files.  One file I saved is from
Light Energy Co, 18005444826 on Healing With Single Frequency Light. He has
a web site if you goggle it. Another one is Laser Energetic Detoxification,
Eve Greenberg, staff reporter for explore dated November 6, 2006. This is
the file that reports on DR Cowdens allergy elimination methods.

Brickey

 



CSSorry should have changed subject to Flu

2012-11-23 Thread Bob Banever
Has anyone had any luck treating the flu with CS?  Have you nebulized it?
I have a cough,  low fever 99F, dizziness etc.  Thanks for any info.

 

Bob

 

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From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMSM

 

GreatSKU.com . He even offered free shipping and no state sales tax to worry
about. I bought a bunch of red and green lasers from him with several
orders, no problems except it took about one week to receive the orders. My
credit card Co. got excited about China purchases, sent me a notice of
strange charges.

 

In a message dated 11/22/2012 4:17:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jessi...@optonline.net writes:

Brickey, did you buy the lasers from China online?  if so what web site?
thanks, Jess

 

Thanks, Brickey. Where can I find out more information? No, I did not use
Andreas training.  bpou...@rogers.com had a bunch of files on lasers/leds
which she sent to anyone who asked. My printer was down so I did not save
the downloads. She is the Canadian Coordinator, Global Recognition Campaign.
Her PC crashed right after she sent me the files.  One file I saved is from
Light Energy Co, 18005444826 on Healing With Single Frequency Light. He has
a web site if you goggle it. Another one is Laser Energetic Detoxification,
Eve Greenberg, staff reporter for explore dated November 6, 2006. This is
the file that reports on DR Cowdens allergy elimination methods.

Brickey

 



RE: CSMSM

2012-11-23 Thread Bob Banever
Thanks Tel.  How often and for how long would you nebulize?  Thanks again.

 

Bob

 

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From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 3:12 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMSM

 

Yes, a nebulizer will really help with the use of Colloidal Silver in it.

 

Tel Tofflemire

 

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From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: CSMSM





Has anyone had any luck using CS for the flu?  If so have you ever nebulized
it?  I'm suffering from some sort of respiratory infection that came on
rather suddenly.  Fever of 99F, coughing, dizziness, joint pains etc.
Thanks.

 

Bob 

 

  _  

From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMSM

 

GreatSKU.com http://greatsku.com/  . He even offered free shipping and no
state sales tax to worry about. I bought a bunch of red and green lasers
from him with several orders, no problems except it took about one week to
receive the orders. My credit card Co. got excited about China purchases,
sent me a notice of strange charges.

 

In a message dated 11/22/2012 4:17:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jessi...@optonline.net writes:

Brickey, did you buy the lasers from China online?  if so what web site?
thanks, Jess

 

Thanks, Brickey. Where can I find out more information? No, I did not use
Andreas training.  bpou...@rogers.com had a bunch of files on lasers/leds
which she sent to anyone who asked. My printer was down so I did not save
the downloads. She is the Canadian Coordinator, Global Recognition Campaign.
Her PC crashed right after she sent me the files.  One file I saved is from
Light Energy Co, 18005444826 on Healing With Single Frequency Light. He has
a web site if you goggle it. Another one is Laser Energetic Detoxification,
Eve Greenberg, staff reporter for explore dated November 6, 2006. This is
the file that reports on DR Cowdens allergy elimination methods.

Brickey

 

 



RE: CSSorry should have changed subject to Flu

2012-11-23 Thread Bob Banever
Thanks Gary.

 

Bob

 

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From: Gary Hilt [mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 3:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSorry should have changed subject to Flu

 

Yes i have had many copd exacerbations stopped by CS i breathed it atleast 4
times a day about 3.5 ml at a time and ingested4-6 oz. it should kill it
least it works for me.

might try lugundi for that cough great stuff. 

 

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net wrote:

Has anyone had any luck treating the flu with CS?  Have you nebulized it?
I have a cough,  low fever 99F, dizziness etc.  Thanks for any info.

 

Bob

 

  _  

From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMSM

 

GreatSKU.com . He even offered free shipping and no state sales tax to worry
about. I bought a bunch of red and green lasers from him with several
orders, no problems except it took about one week to receive the orders. My
credit card Co. got excited about China purchases, sent me a notice of
strange charges.

 

In a message dated 11/22/2012 4:17:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jessi...@optonline.net writes:

Brickey, did you buy the lasers from China online?  if so what web site?
thanks, Jess

 

Thanks, Brickey. Where can I find out more information? No, I did not use
Andreas training.  bpou...@rogers.com had a bunch of files on lasers/leds
which she sent to anyone who asked. My printer was down so I did not save
the downloads. She is the Canadian Coordinator, Global Recognition Campaign.
Her PC crashed right after she sent me the files.  One file I saved is from
Light Energy Co, 18005444826 on Healing With Single Frequency Light. He has
a web site if you goggle it. Another one is Laser Energetic Detoxification,
Eve Greenberg, staff reporter for explore dated November 6, 2006. This is
the file that reports on DR Cowdens allergy elimination methods.

Brickey

 





 

-- 

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ. 

Gary  Lennie

 



RE: CStick bite problem

2012-11-21 Thread Bob Banever
If I were you I’d do two things right away.  Make a paste out of activated
charcoal and tincture of lobelia, echinacia,comfrey, and lobelia
(brownrecluses.com makes a great one).  I’d also apply some electricity.
Get a flashlight battery (not 9 volt, 1 ½ or 3 volt).  Solder two wires to
either end, cut some sponges in 2 inch squares and wrap those sponges around
the two ends of the two wires (after you strip the ends of plastic).  Afix
with a rubber band.  Wet sponges and apply sponges to either side of bite or
one on top and one on the other side of forearm.  Keep in place for 5
minutes then switch sponges and treat for another 5 minutes.  Do this once a
day for the next 3 days.  Apply paste twice a day.  If you can’t get any of
these things, get some baking soda and mix with CS to a paste.  Apply this
in same manner but won’t be as effective as the lobelia tincture.  Good
luck.

 

Bob

 

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From: vicki hood [mailto:mutt...@isp.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CStick bite problem

 

Hi all,  Yesterday scraped tick out of my forearm.  It was half embedded.
Very smalll deer tick.  I have problems.  I drank CS numerous times, washed
it with alcohol, scratched a lot.  Last night it swelled.  It turned red.
It hurts and itches in a path 3inches by 6 inches with a hard circle about
the size of a 50 cent piece at the bite then swelling and heat and red  that
headed upward and sideways from the top of my forearm.  It is hot and
swollen  ---Still drinking CS. short soak in rubbing alcohol.  Several swabs
of oil of oregano. Avoiding doctor.  everal years ago i had tick bite that
had hard, red angry reaction.  Doctor said i am allergic.  Whoa,  Benedryl?
What do i do?  HELP.  MuttmomVicki



RE: CSLDN, and treatments for control of MS!!

2012-11-11 Thread Bob Banever
Marlene,

 

 Many people have reported relief from MS symptoms by eating a gluten
free diet.  No wheat in any form.  Try it if you haven't already.  It'll
take 1 to 3 months to see the benefit if you have a wheat intolerance.  ! in
3 people do!

 

Bob

 

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From: Rowena [mailto:new...@internode.on.net] 
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:03 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSLDN, and treatments for control of MS!!

 

Thanks Marlene for this info.  People who report back on their treatments,
especially successful ones, benefit more than the people on the list, as we
all have friends with problems.  This information is going to a friend in
Geraldton, Western Australia, now.  (When she lived near me, she used to get
CS from me; I don't know what she is able to get now!)
Rowena



On 5/11/2012 11:33 PM, Marlene Hanson wrote:

I have been using many treatments such as exercise, iodine, mms, CS and LDN
over the years to control my MS and reduce damage. I take 4.5 mg LDN at 9;30

 

 every night This is major. LDN will stop the immune system for several
hours and allow it to build up endorphins. The immune system can become
aware of the

 

 difference between our tissues and foreign invaders. LDN has been very
effective for me. I believe keeping the immune system calm is the answer for
me. I also

 

 have my food allergies tested and either desensitized or refrained from
them. I also had my dental work cleaned up and metals removed from my mouth.
When 

 

I finished the metal replacement I did the IV chelation of Mercury, Lead,
arsenic, etc. I refrain from sugar and all artificial sweeteners I reduced
and alleviated gluten,

 

 stimulants, preservatives, alcohol, chicken eggs, and milk products. I try
to avoid stressful situations and people. Having physical injuries has
always stimulated the

 

 MS process. Having bad emotional attractions are also bad for my health.
Having the mental approach I have chosen has benefited me as well. I try to
accept all

 

 that has come to my life as a blessing and something to feel thankful for.
I feel some of the blessing is the adventure of changing the situation by
learning how to

 

 deal with it and knowing that it is what is making me who I am. I had a
long term remission 8 years and was able to repair much of the brain damage
then in May 

 

had another auto accident trauma and am experiencing symptoms again. My
holistic Clinic is giving me IV's which are currently helping me and
reducing current 

 

symptoms and allowing me to return to active normal life again. 

 

 I have so much to be thankful for. The people on this list and their
suggestions have given me many blessings and support, Thank you MH 

 



RE: CSsuggestions

2012-11-09 Thread Bob Banever
I have used Silver Biotics silver tetroxide many times with great success
and safety.  Silver tetroxide is a more active form of ionic silver so you
use less of it and it seems to work a bit faster.  Any good ionic silver
solution should work well though.  Remember that it is the silver ions that
do the work of killing bugs, particulate silver must be turned into ions
before it can work.  The theory is it happens in the body.  Good luck.

 

Bob

 

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From: Gary Hilt [mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSsuggestions

 

I HAVE USED SOV.SILVER AND FOUND IT VERY USEFUL AND SAAFE. I BREATHE IT ,
DRINK IT , PUT IN MY EYE

ALTHO NOW WE MAKE OUR OWN.

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:55 AM, finplan65 finpla...@yahoo.com wrote:

As a newbie to this health area I need some advice from those more
knowledgeable than myself..Could someone please tell me if the two retail
bought brands, Sovereign Silver and American Biotech (Silver Biotics) can be
recommended as safe and effective? If not are there any retail brands that
can be recommended? Thank You

 

 





 

-- 

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ. 

Gary  Lennie

 



RE: CSStoring water

2012-11-06 Thread Bob Banever
I believe chlorine evaporates out of water in about 6 hours if left open to
the air.

 

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From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 5:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSStoring water

 

Hi Ode,
This is interesting and useful information.  I lived with cisterns and while
I would bathe in the water I wouldn't drink it.  Every time I did I got
sick.  Then the cistern was cleaned and you wouldn't believe what they
shoveled out at the bottom.  No wonder I got sick.  Live and dead critters!
Just my experience.
PT

 

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From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, November 6, 2012 8:03:49 AM
Subject: Re: CSStoring water

Experiments in collecting rain water off a tin roof:
Let it rain a while to wash the roof and the airthe water came up quite
pure at around 2 uS conductivity or less.
Probably not uniformly sterile, but cisterns have been used for potable
water for centuries. [usually made of concrete or masonry where lime might
sterilize the water]

 Back in the day:  I would tie a very large tarp by the corners to tree
trunks, cut a hole in the central sag to fill an upended open ended [with
screen wire to keep out the skeeters], 275 gallon drum...spigot and hose
just off the bottom.
..nice dry spot to watch it rain from and LOTS of water, very fast, even
during a light rain. [but with everything smaller than screen that was on
the trees in it ]

Inexpensive water filter [used for years and years to filter rain water
caught on the old bus roof channeled into hose line by gutters on the sides]
10 feet of 4 PVC pipe and end caps drilled and tapped to take 1/2 pipe
thread hose fittings , polyester pillow stuffing and a few pounds of
activated charcoal.

Interesting process learned last night:
A clear water bottle left in full sun with Aluminum foil on one side to
reflect  concentrated sunlight back into the bottle  [parabolic mirror] will
sterilize the water in about 6 hours.
 Heat? and concentrated UV light.
UV lights are often installed along well to home water lines.

  Looking into water purification kits at REI...

Some had powdered Chlorine to kill everything..and..H2O2 to drive off the
Chlorine.
ie: Add H202 to tap water and wind up with water with no sterilant in it.



-Does hydrogen peroxide remove chlorine? Hydrogen peroxide can be used for
dechlorination, in other words to remove residual chlorine. Residual
chlorine forms corrosive acids when it is oxidised by air or condenses in
process systems. When chlorine reacts with hydrogen peroxide, the hydrogen
peroxide falls apart into water and oxygen. Chlorine gas hydrolyses into
hypochlorous acid (HOCl), which subsequently ionises into hypochlorite ions
(OCl-).
Cl2 + H2O à HOCl + HCl à H2O + OCl- 

After that, hydrogen peroxide reacts with the hypochlorite:

OCl- + H2O2 à Cl- + H2O + O2

The reaction between hydrogen peroxide and hypochlorite takes place very
quickly. Other organic and inorganic substances cannot react with
hypochlorite. 

Lots of info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach#Color_safe_bleach







Boiling for water sterilization


Boiling can be used as a method of water disinfection but is only advocated
as an emergency water treatment method, or as a method of portable water
purification in rural or wilderness settings without access to a potable
water infrastructure. Bringing water to the boil is effective in killing or
inactivating most bacteria, viruses and pathogens. Boiling is the most
certain way of killing nearly all microorganisms. According to the
Wilderness Medical Society
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling#cite_note-backpackers_field_manual-0
[1], water temperatures above 160°F (70°C) kill all pathogens within 30
minutes and above 185°F (85°C) within a few minutes. So in the time it takes
for the water to reach the boiling point (212°F or 100°C) from 160°F (70°C),
all pathogens will be killed, even at high altitude. To be extra safe, let
the water boil rapidly for one minute, especially at higher altitudes since
water boils at a lower temperature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling#cite_note-backpackers_field_manual-0
[1]



Silver, copper and zinc are all metals that will kill micro-organisms at
very low concentrations.
Hydronium [H3], an acidic byproduct of electrolysis will sterilize water at
low concentrations as well..and..it neutralizes after a while as it finds
the  counterpart also produced, or both bubble off.
 Warm up that water in the sun to help de-gass it.
Got a car battery, [solar panel?  Bicycle with old style generator?] some
old galvanized pipe or copper wire and some jumper cables ?

Ode

Ode
















RE: CSMaking silver colloids from silvernitrate and trisodium citrate

2012-10-17 Thread Bob Banever
Have you tried silver tetroxide?  This more active form of ionic silver is
quite effective.  Go to alternative-health-concepts.com  SilverBiotics makes
it.  It cured my dog of a severe gall bladder infection (mucoseal) in two
days.  Good luck.

 

Bob

 

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From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMaking silver colloids from silvernitrate and trisodium citrate

 

The reason I am trying to try things like this is because my bugs are not
dying.  If I take a swig of 1000PPM silver citrate, I get a herx, but I am
not ready to do that regularly as I am afraid of argyria.  I have also taken
a few drops of 15,000PPM silver citrate with barely noticeable response.
Other things I have thought of doing are drops of super concentrated silver
nitrate, but there are warnings that it may not be safe to contact tissues
at higher PPMs, so I am shy about that.  And then also that may turn me blue
eventually.  Silver nitrate can supposedly reach like 2 million PPM at
saturation.

 

Well, then I suppose another approach is trying super concentrated silver
colloids.  I feel a little better about that since I have not heard of
anyone getting argyria from silver colloids, but tell me if I am wrong. Also
no one has complained about toxicity of lower PPM silver colloid
suspensions.  One claimed method is using the reducing agent from
silverlungs:

http://shop.silverlungs.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AGENT

They only recently started selling it separately.  Though I would need a
high PPM ionic solution in order to convert to colloids in the first place.
I suppose I could just see what happens if I mixed it with silver citrate or
silver nitrate solutions in that case.

 

And then there is this method:

http://www.ktu.edu/lt/mokslas/zurnalai/medz/medz0-87/03%20Electronic...(pp.2
87-291).pdf

Apparently, you can mix silver nitrate and trisodium citrate to make
colloidal silver.  The method described in the paper would yield
approximately 100PPM colloidal silver assuming it all gets converted.  This
begs the question if the same process would work for much higher
concentrations, perhaps making say 1000PPM silver colloids?  

 

And also, I was reading some other forum where people were mentioning using
cinnamon extract to make silver colloids.  Anyone know anything about that? 

 

...

 

Trisodium citrate supplier:

http://www.alfa.com/en/gp100w.pgm?dsstk=36439

Silver nitrate facts and supplier:

http://www.saltlakemetals.com/Silver_Nitrate_Solution.htm

http://www.saltlakemetals.com/Solubility_Of_Silver_Nitrate.htm

 

David



RE: CSCS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Banever
Hemp seed oil, the kind sold in health food stores, is NOT the same as hemp
oil used to treat cancer.  Marijuana or hemp oil is psychoactive and
contains dozens of cannabinoids to combat the disease icluding CBD and THC.
Hemp seed oil is made from seeds from industrial hemp. a cousin but not the
same plant.  There is almost no THC in the oil, thus no therapeutic effect.

 

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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 3:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

 

Thanks for that Kirsteen.  I suppose it is the form it takes which makes it
legal/illegal.   Ours not to reason why.  How are you by the way?  dee



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From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:00:44 +0100
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:00:44 -0700



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
wrote:

Can we buy hemp oil as this is the cannabis plant isn't it?  Illegal
here in the UK.  


Hi Dee

I use Nutiva organic cold-pressed hemp oil on my salads all the time. I buy
it in grassroots, our local organic store. I'm pretty sure if I can buy it
here in Scotland, you should be able to get it down there. Actually if you
do a google search, there's loads of places selling it.

chheers
Kirsteen





RE: CSCS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Banever
I cured my dog of a mucoseal, an infection of the lining of his gall
bladder, with silver tetroxide.  Cured him in 2 days after the vet said
surgery is the only option.  Good luck.  Bob

 

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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 8:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and Cancer? +hempseed oil

 

I'm glad it is working out for you Kirsteen, I'm sure you are taking all the
natural things to combat the drugs as well - as you say.  Good luck with it
all.. Best regards dee



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From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:19:59 +0100
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and Cancer? +hempseed oil
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:19:59 -0700



On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
wrote:

Thanks for that Kirsteen.  I suppose it is the form it takes which makes it
legal/illegal.   Ours not to reason why.  How are you by the way?  dee


hi Dee

I'm not bad only 2 more cancer treatments to go but they had to be put on
hold as my digestive probs started up again. Doc thinks it's an infected and
inflamed gallbladder so I've had to go on dreaded antiobiotics :-(.  However
they do seem to be working so I'm just digging out the probiotics and eating
loads of kimchi.

Hopefully I'll get another herceptin treatment on Tuesday and then just one
more in 3 weeks and that'll be me - just yearly checkups- Yeah :-)

The real problem is that all these issues make the M.E. so much worse. I can
now only stand for about 5 minutes and can only sit upright for about 15
before I keel over and any exhertion at all has me laid up for days but
hopefully once all the other problems are dealt with this might improve a
bit.

Cheers
Kirsteen



RE: CSheavy metal poison

2012-07-29 Thread Bob Banever
Another possibility is the use of liquid zeolites.  It worked for me when I
had mercury poisoning from an amalgam that was removed without any
safeguards.  I took 10 drops 3x a day for three weeks.  I felt better after
5 days but stayed on the protocol for the three weeks.  Also took chlorella
and activated charcoal internally.

 

  _  

From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 7:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSheavy metal poison

 

She definitely needs to look at chelation.  The doctors can do it with IV,
but there are some pretty good oral ones on the market as well.  I have used
and been satisfied with the extreme health one.

Marshall

On 7/29/2012 8:00 PM, Kathy Tankersley wrote: 

 A dear friend of mine has been diagnosed with heavy metal poisoning, anyone
on the list had any experience with this?  She had been really sick and
needs to go a different direction than she is going.   Any input is highly
appreciated.Thanks, Kathy

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RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2012 #292

2012-07-27 Thread Bob Banever
Ian,

 

   I make my own solution of ionic silver and it works quite well most of
the time.  The absolute best and most effective silver I have found is
silver tetroxide (Guardian Silver Sol).  Google for info.  It saved my life
and the life of my dog.  I suffered from a ptomaine poisoning from bad
chicken. this got rid of it in a few hours.  My dog had a mucoseal. an
infection of the lining of his gall bladder.  Usually requires surgery and
antibiotics. I cured my 15 year old dog in two days with it.  Amazing stuff.

 

  _  

From: Ian MacLeod [mailto:heyo...@crestviewcable.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2012 #292

 

I've a question I hope someone can answer. One seller of nanosilver, Purest
Colloids. Internet URL is purestcolloids.com, says that theirs is a
better-than-most colloidal silver because their silver particles are
smaller, and there is almost no ionic silver in the solution. They call it
mesosilver because of the process used. They have all sorts of studies
available, plus the make other colloidal suspensions than just silver.
Anyway, some others insist that ionic silver is the part that has the
antibiotic effect. THAT can be made at home, I know, but it's silver
dissolved in solution, it is NOT a colloidal suspension. So which one should
we buy? I'm looking at the added expense of buying one of each and using
both. ONE of them has to be wrong, but which one?

Thanks!

Ian 


 

On 7/27/2012 7:51 AM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:

 



RE: CSR/O water reads 0.0 uS !

2012-06-28 Thread Bob Banever
David,

 

 RO water is slightly acidic due to it's lack of minerals.  Simply add
some at the end (calcium, magnesium etc.) or there are alkalinizing filters
available that add trace minerals to the water.  

 

  _  

From: jess [mailto:jessi...@optonline.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 5:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSR/O water reads 0.0 uS !

 

What RO system do you have? Thanks, Jess

 

From: David mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com  AuBuchon 

Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 4:42 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CSR/O water reads 0.0 uS !

 

The reverse osmosis water out of this tap reads 0.0 on my Hanna PWT, and it
is not malfunctioning!  That is better than distilled.  The pH measure 5.0.
That is a little concerning to me...   

 

David



RE: CS Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade

2012-06-27 Thread Bob Banever
Thanks Jason.

 

Bob

 

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From: Jason R Eaton [mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:12 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade

 

Hi Bob:

 

As I said previously, you can either substitute with D-Ribose (for energy
production), or simply omit.

 

~Jason

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Bob Banever mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 19:57

Subject: RE: CS Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade

 

I like all of the ingredients except stevia.  Is there a substitute for
that?  Coconut sugar perhaps?   Thanks.

 

Bob

 


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From: david moskovits [mailto:dieseld...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:48 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade

 

 

1 cup of fresh squeezed lemon juice: (4 -6 lemons)
4-6 cups of clean water (to taste) 
1 tsp of ground turmeric
1 tsp of cinnamon
Pinch of Himalayan salt
pinch of cayenne pepper

pinch of ginger 

pinch of basil 
1/2 tsp of liquid stevia (or to taste)


 


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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:12:24 -0600
Subject: Re: CS Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade
From: gooogleis...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

For internal?  How much? 

Thanks,

 Jim

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Harold har...@telus.net wrote:

My understanding about Citrus fruits acidity is; it is converted in the body
to an Alkaline ash and should have no effect on leaching Calcium and
Magnesium.

Am enclosing  an important recipe for treating inflammation which is very
prevalent in most diseases.

 

Harold

 

 

 

 

 

Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade:
1 cup of fresh squeezed lemon juice:
(4 -6 lemons)

4-6 cups of clean water (to taste)
1 tsp of ground turmeric
1 tsp of cinnamon
Pinch of Himalayan salt

1/2 tsp of liquid stevia (or to taste)
Optional: 1 tsp ground/fresh ginger

 



RE: CS Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade

2012-06-26 Thread Bob Banever
I like all of the ingredients except stevia.  Is there a substitute for
that?  Coconut sugar perhaps?   Thanks.

 

Bob

 

  _  

From: david moskovits [mailto:dieseld...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:48 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade

 

 

1 cup of fresh squeezed lemon juice: (4 -6 lemons)
4-6 cups of clean water (to taste) 
1 tsp of ground turmeric
1 tsp of cinnamon
Pinch of Himalayan salt
pinch of cayenne pepper

pinch of ginger 

pinch of basil 
1/2 tsp of liquid stevia (or to taste)


 

  _  

Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:12:24 -0600
Subject: Re: CS Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade
From: gooogleis...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

For internal?  How much? 

Thanks,

 Jim

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Harold har...@telus.net wrote:

My understanding about Citrus fruits acidity is; it is converted in the body
to an Alkaline ash and should have no effect on leaching Calcium and
Magnesium.

Am enclosing  an important recipe for treating inflammation which is very
prevalent in most diseases.

 

Harold

 

 

 

 

 

Anti-Inflammatory Lemonade:
1 cup of fresh squeezed lemon juice:
(4 -6 lemons)

4-6 cups of clean water (to taste)
1 tsp of ground turmeric
1 tsp of cinnamon
Pinch of Himalayan salt

1/2 tsp of liquid stevia (or to taste)
Optional: 1 tsp ground/fresh ginger



 



RE: CSprostate infection

2012-06-20 Thread Bob Banever
D-mannose works wonders for UTI's.  Add some cranberry juice (unsweetened)
and you've got a potent therapy.

 

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From: olushola camara [mailto:camaramah...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:11 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSprostate infection

 

Try pomegranate extract.

Olshola

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:34 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
wrote:

Elderly ailing man with recurrent infection believed to be in
prostate, maybe in UTI.  He is nebulized CS for lung cancer, but that
is not gonna help the prostate.

Any suggestions?  I am thinkinh about:

vitamin C, flower pollen, oral CS, brooks' CS/DMSO method of
administering through the urethra, D-mannose, etc.

Is oral CS good with UTI or prostate?

David


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RE: CSParalyzed vocal cords

2012-06-19 Thread Bob Banever
Marshall,

   I would think acupuncture might be worth a shot.  It has the ability to
stimulate nerve function as well as the function of the vocal cords
themselves.  Several treatments would be necessary though... nerves
regenerate very slowly.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSParalyzed vocal cords

Edgar Cayce got over his with vocal cord problem with hypnosis...

Dan

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
 Does anyone have any suggestion on getting paralyzed vocal cords working
 again?  My daughter had thyroid cancer, and when they removed her thyroid
 her vocal cords got paralyzed.  I have been searching for any alternative
 therapies, and have found some Chinese herbs, homeopathic remedies, and
 maybe electro stimulation.

 Brooks, any research in this area you are aware of.

 Thanks,

 Marshall



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RE: CSBruise with hard center?

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Banever
Mark,

 

  If you can make an extract of comfrey, ecinachia, and lobelia and add
some activated charcoal that would be the best for a spider bite.  You can
add colloidal silver to that.  If you can't, a raw onion finely sliced or
chopped as a poultice works well for most spider bites.   You can also make
a poultice of baking soda, activated charcoal, and colloidal silver.  Not as
good as the lobelia, but should work well.

 

Bob

 

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From: Mark [mailto:markyd...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 6:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: herbal_remed...@yahoogroups.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBruise with hard center?

 

Tick bite?

Regards,

 

Mark

 


On 04 Jun 2012, at 15:02, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

Hello All,

 

My daughter woke up this morning with a light purplish bruise on the lower
part of her shin bone. It's about 2-3 inches in diameter with a light yellow
center which feels like a small stone (tender to the touch). She does not
remember banging herself yesterday - but she is a very active 9 year old and
I can't rule it out. However, at the same time - I wonder if it could also
be a spider bite of some sort.

 

Either way - what's the best course of treatment at this time? I can make a
poultice of EIS (silver water) and then I was thinking perhaps a comfrey
poultice. Is there any way I can draw any of the toxin out if it is indeed a
spider bite? 

 

Thanks for your help!




Lisa (in NH)



RE: CSThis is Worrisome -- Now it is our Tomato

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Banever
Joyce,

 

Where I live in So. Cal tomatoes grown in Mexico are awful, even the
organic heirloom variety.  Tomatoes grown locally are still good although
more difficult to find.

 

Bob

 

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From: Joyce Miller [mailto:jmillerwo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThis is Worrisome -- Now it is our Tomato

 

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Our tomatoes are in trouble.  Whatever they do they will alter the tomato
genetically.  I sincerely hope they do not take out the beneficial genes  as
they gmo the plant.


I think our tomatoes have been in trouble for quite some time. I don't know
if it is GMO  or what, but even the organic tomatoes in all the stores in my
area, and there are a lot here, all of the tomatoes have no flavor. No
flavor at all. Pretty, look good, but no flavor.

I no longer buy them because they add nothing to a salad or to anything
else: they have no taste. And the color is not enough.

Joyce Miller
 



RE: CSMay we talk about Shngles vaccine vs. CS?

2012-05-30 Thread Bob Banever
I've given CS to two shingles patients and both were cured.   Haven't had a
relapse in years.

 

Bob

 

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From: Joyce Miller [mailto:jmillerwo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMay we talk about Shngles vaccine vs. CS?

 

Mu husband had the shingles a few years ago and they were horrible for him.
No way do I want to go through that. I did some research on the vaccine, and
what I found out was good. So I had the shot. We shall see.

Joyce

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Judy Knowlton
judydownma...@roadrunner.com wrote:


   It occurs to me that intake of CS for other purposes may have killed
the
   virus -- especially if we are 10-year some-time users.
   Anybody here actually gotten shingles?
   Thanks for any information.
   At almost 77, having had chickenpox, I am interested in opinions and
information .
   Vaccine is my lowest choice anyway, and without Rx coverage, it's
about
$200.
   Judy Down Maine


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RE: CStooth problems- can EIS help? Double A Battery

2012-04-29 Thread Bob Banever
Jim,

 

 Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo.  It's very simple. all
you need is a flashlight battery (NOT a nine volt one), wires, tape or
solder, and sponges.  

 

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From: Jim Holmes [mailto:gooogleis...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 9:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStooth problems- can EIS help? Double A Battery

 


Werry interesting.  

How does one receive instruction in the technique?

Are there...studies?

Thank you for that info.

Jim

On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 5:17 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 4/28/2012 9:55:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
martsmai...@aol.com writes:

*  If you have a diseased tooth, or if you've already had a root canal, I
highly recommend consulting a biological dentist about have it extracted 

I cured a real nasty abscess with a Double A  battery. It will kill
infection.  Lois

 



RE: CStooth problems- can EIS help?

2012-04-28 Thread Bob Banever
I easily destroyed several bacterial infections in the roots of my teeth as
well as cavitations in  teeth.  I used a Godzilla… a battery hooked up to
two wires with sponges on the ends used as electrodes.  The DC current kills
the bacteria instantly inside the tooth or root.  You can use as little as 1
½ volts or up to 6 volts but no higher.  9 volts is dangerous and overkill
in any event.  Just a flashlight battery will do.  Go to
microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for info and schematics on how to
make the device… it costs less than $10 and has saved me thousands in dental
bills.  Good luck.

 

Bob

 

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From: martsmai...@aol.com [mailto:martsmai...@aol.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:55 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CStooth problems- can EIS help?

 

  

You did the correct thing.



According to Dr. Mercola

During a root canal, there is no way to sterilize your tooth; after the root
canal, dangerous bacteria hide out in the tooth and are unreachable with
antibiotics

*  Root-canaled and filled teeth harbor bacteria that morph into very toxic
forms, which then can migrate to other tissues in your body and cause
serious medical conditions, including diseases of your heart, kidneys,
bones, and brain 

*  There is no other medical practice that permits leaving a dead body part
inside your body, because it triggers your immune system to attack 

*  If you have a diseased tooth, or if you’ve already had a root canal, I
highly recommend consulting a biological dentist about have it extracted 

 

In a message dated 4/27/2012 9:19:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
smjl...@wavewls.com writes:

I would choose losing the tooth over a root canal any day!




 

 



RE: CSDrinking lemon juice to alkalize

2012-04-18 Thread Bob Banever
Jason,

 

  If you are testing well for mineral and electrolyte balance then you
must be consuming edible clay.  :-)

 

  _  

From: Jason R Eaton [mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 12:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDrinking lemon juice to alkalize

 

Hi Melly:

 

While taking adequate minerals is a very important part of health, I
strongly disagree with that blanket statement, which is backed by opinion
and not real science.  In fact, the truth is that the alkalzing minerals IN
lemon are primarily calcium, magnesium, and potassium.  It actually
stimulates the production of calcium carbonate in the body.  I'm aware that
some people out there are trying to teach this leaching idea, but it is
not backed in common sense or science, and is obviously being taught by
individuals with very little background in the scientific approach to
biochemistry.

 

For example, I actually have cellular and metabolic work done to monitor my
electrolyte and mineral balance.  I'm one of the few people who test at near
perfect mineral balance levels.  No mineral supplementation needed; only a
reasonably healthy diet is required.

 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Jason

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com  

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:50

Subject: CSDrinking lemon juice to alkalize

 


For those drinking lemon juice to alkalize i hope you realize that for lemon
to convert your ph, it leaches on your minerals like calcium and magnesium,
so it would be best to take mineral supplement too.

 

Melly

 



RE: CSRe: root canal

2012-03-13 Thread Bob Banever
Mary,

 

  No, it will not do the same thing.  This is raw DC current albeit very
low voltage.  Not the same thing.

 

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From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 7:53 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe: root canal

 

Bob, Thank you
I have a pemf device will it do the same thing?
Mary

 

  _  

From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, March 11, 2012 7:29:18 PM
Subject: RE: CSRe: root canal

Your only hope is to make or buy a Godzilla device and treat the tooth and
root with this.  It will kill the bacteria in the tooth and root but the
dentist won’t be able to tell the difference.  Your pain should subside
within a few days or so after treatment.  Go to microelectiricitygermkiller
group on Yahoo for schematics on how to make a device.  You can make one for
under $15.  It simply sends 3 – 6 volts DC current thru the tooth killing
the bacteria.  I’ve saved myself a couple of root canals doing this.  You
can use a flashlight battery of as little as 1 ½ volts or go up to a 6 volt
lantern battery.  DO NOT GO ANY HIGHER… DO NOT USE A NINE VOLT BATTERY …
DANGER… TOO STRONG.  It isn’t necessary anyway as a little goes a long way.
Good luck.

 

Bob

 

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From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 6:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: root canal

 

Harold,
Last week I asked about cavities, I went to the dentist I must have a root
canal.  He is a holistic dentist,the tooth is lightly discolored and in the
x ray the root seem dark
Question can I keep applying silver (cs) will it take away the poison will
it penetrate the tooth? I must have this done on the 20th

 

  _  

From: Harold har...@telus.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 4:26:56 PM
Subject: CSc s  Silver puppy generator

Lost my link for Silver Puppy generator ,and googling didn’t help any.

Have an interested  buyer for a good simple machine.

Have link for SG6,but she wants to compare.

TIA,

Harold



RE: CSRe: root canal

2012-03-11 Thread Bob Banever
Your only hope is to make or buy a Godzilla device and treat the tooth and
root with this.  It will kill the bacteria in the tooth and root but the
dentist won’t be able to tell the difference.  Your pain should subside
within a few days or so after treatment.  Go to microelectiricitygermkiller
group on Yahoo for schematics on how to make a device.  You can make one for
under $15.  It simply sends 3 – 6 volts DC current thru the tooth killing
the bacteria.  I’ve saved myself a couple of root canals doing this.  You
can use a flashlight battery of as little as 1 ½ volts or go up to a 6 volt
lantern battery.  DO NOT GO ANY HIGHER… DO NOT USE A NINE VOLT BATTERY…
DANGER… TOO STRONG.  It isn’t necessary anyway as a little goes a long way.
Good luck.

 

Bob

 

  _  

From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 6:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: root canal

 

Harold,
Last week I asked about cavities, I went to the dentist I must have a root
canal.  He is a holistic dentist,the tooth is lightly discolored and in the
x ray the root seem dark
Question can I keep applying silver (cs) will it take away the poison will
it penetrate the tooth? I must have this done on the 20th

 

  _  

From: Harold har...@telus.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 4:26:56 PM
Subject: CSc s  Silver puppy generator

Lost my link for Silver Puppy generator ,and googling didn’t help any.

Have an interested  buyer for a good simple machine.

Have link for SG6,but she wants to compare.

TIA,

Harold



RE: CS Tape Worm Cure

2012-03-05 Thread Bob Banever
I've never heard of this before either.  I'd love to learn more.   If there
is any info on this out there please send a link.

Thanks.

 

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From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 11:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Tape Worm Cure

 


Tel, what would be in coQ10 that would kill a tape worm?  And does it matter
which type--the ubiquitone or ubiquinol?  And does it kill other types of
parasites?  I've just never heard this before.

 

Samala,

Renee 

 

 

 

 

---Original Message---

 

 

Tape worm in People  in pets  is very common in most parts of the country,
(A real easy cure is for all tape worm infestations)  It 

is C 0 Q 10,   can be bought in food stores even wallmart.



 

 

 



RE: CS Tape Worm Cure

2012-03-05 Thread Bob Banever
Thanks Tel.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@cableone.net] 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 3:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Tape Worm Cure

You asked about coq10 killing tapeworms !   I only know that a very  
good Vet, told me to try COQ10 , it worked twice as fast as any  other  
stuff, and it is easy to admisniser , and a clean way to do the job.   
I have only had this last spring to try it during the Arizona tape  
worm season and it worked every time, I have somthing like 8 or 10 pet  
owners who will not need me for tape worms this year, they all know  
how to do it themselves.  I will be busy here in New Mexico this  
spring with tape worms , but after one season of coq10 they will all  
know how to rid tape worms for themselves. As you will all of you, if  
you try it. If you need more info email of call me.
Tel
505-899-3489
www.quailwoodherbal.com
Albuquerque, New Mexico,
  87114


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RE: CScavities

2012-03-04 Thread Bob Banever
SteveG,

 

  Cavities do heal.  All you have to do is get rid of the bacterial
infection and then remineralize the tooth.  Over time they are completely
healed.

 

Bob

 

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From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:35 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScavities

 



I don't think anything can actually 'heal' a cavity because the damage has
already been done.  However, if you have gum disease and cavities in
progress, plaque etc. CS is helpful, but what REALLY works well is an
occasional 5 minute dose of micro-electricity.  This has had amazing results
for people with abscesses, loose teeth, bleeding gums etc.

More info available at the yahoo group 'micro-electricty germkiller'



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From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net
Subject: CScavities
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, March 4, 2012, 11:02 AM

A few months ago, healing cavities was mentioned.  I have lost my
information on this, as I now find I have one.
Can anyone please tell me the method used and is it possible to heal
cavities?
Mary

 

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, March 3, 2012 4:44:26 PM
Subject: Re: CSCS on EMPTY STOMACH? (pets)




In a message dated 3/2/2012 8:10:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
goofeygal...@comcast.net writes:

i usually take my CS as a swig and hold it in my mouth for about 3 minutes
before swallowing, regardless of empty or full stomach.

 

Obviously my cat cannot do that so i gently syringe into his mouth but do it
on empty stomach however i don't know if his stomach likes that so am
wondering if it's okay to administer with food?

 

Susie

Hi Susie, I have seen many folks that put CS down for their pets to drink
any time they want it. Some put it down straight some just mix it in with
their water...I really don't think food or no food is a problem... some of
our cats like it either way  a couple want nothing to do with it... If you
have CS questions about pets, a really good site is here  --SilverPets :sign
in
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/?v=1t=searchch=webpub=grou
pssec=groupslk=1   it's a yahoo group...Lois

 



RE: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

2012-02-12 Thread Bob Banever
I've been using cinnamon flavored tooth powder from Eco Dent for many years
with no problems whatsoever.  Cinnamon is strongly anti-bacterial and a
beneficial spice for cancer as well.

 

Bob

 

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Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 3:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

 

Sodium Laurel Sulphate should be avoided like the plague! 

There should also be warnings on the toothpastes that use cinnamon to flavor
the toothpaste (according to the woman who cleans my teeth). Ginger, she
said, is fine; cinnamon is not. I don't remember what she said it does to
the teeth, but she chastised one of the reps from a toothpaste company about
bringing them toothpaste with cinnamon, and he said well, that is what
people like. She went right back and told him that the company needs to not
use stuff that can harm the teeth.

In one article, the Journal of the American Dental Association says that
cinnamon can sensitize and irritate the mouth and is highly caustic when
applied directly to our gums. Cinnamon irritates mucus membranes and the
mouth is a mucous membrane. It can cause inflammation in the mouth even
while killing bacteria in the mouth.
http://jada.ada.org/content/126/9/1214.1.full.pdf




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RE: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

2012-02-12 Thread Bob Banever
Sol,

   Make yourself or buy a Godzilla and treat your sensitive tooth and roots
with a small amount of DC electricity, no more than 6 volts but even half
that will work.  Go to microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo for info...
you can buy all the parts for about $10.  It's simple and effective... the
electricity will kill any bacteria in or on the tooth or root and quickly
stop pain and sensitivity.  Works like nothing else I've saved myself
thousands in potential root canal therapy by using this device.  It stops
cavities in their tracks!  All you need are batteries (do NOT us 9 volt
batteries... its too much juice and potentially dangerous), two insulated
wires, sponges, elastic bands.  You can even use one flashlight battery and
solder the wires to either end, using the other ends to apply to the tooth.
Even this small amount of electricity works.  Make sure you get the
schematics or directions from the group.  Good luck.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

Dan Nave wrote:
 I believe that DMSO cures sensitive teeth roots.  At first I thought
 it was due to CS when used with DMSO for penetration, but I have used
 DMSO by itself on the teeth roots and the sensitivity has completely
 disappeared.  In one application!  I can eat acidic things like sour
 apples etc without pain and without etching off the protection.  I
 used full strength DMSO from the bottle and applied it directly to the
 area of the gums and teeth roots.

 I would appreciate it if anyone with sensitive teeth roots would try
 this and report the results back.
   
Hmmm, Since my cataract surgery (acrylic lens implants--DMSO dissolves 
some or all acrylics--I cannot find out what kind of acrylic my implants 
are made of) I have avoided using DMSO at even very low 
concentrationsbut this may be worth the risk. Mostly plain CS 
used as mouthwash after brushing keeps my exposed tooth roots from being 
too sensitive. However I have one spot that remains excruciating. Can 
barely even floss it. I've been thinking about having that tooth pulled 
to tell the truth.

I'd be extremely interested to know how long the desensitization from 
the single application lasts.
sol


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RE: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

2012-02-12 Thread Bob Banever
Joyce,

 

   Thanks for the reply.  If I do have problems I will certainly try
stopping the powder.  

 

Bob

 

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From: Joyce Miller [mailto:jmillerwo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 8:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: tea tree oil, was Re: CSDMSO cures sensitive teeth roots

 

On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
wrote:
I've been using cinnamon flavored tooth powder from Eco Dent for many years
with no problems whatsoever.  Cinnamon is strongly anti-bacterial and a
beneficial spice for cancer as well.

Bob,

The topic of this thread is sensitive gums and then tea tree oil.

I think, as with so many things, that what works for one may not work for
all. I am glad you have had no problems with cinnamon. But I did research
this as well as listening to the woman who has cleaned my teeth for 24
years, and what I found confirmed a common issue with cinnamon and gums. I
too had been using it for some time to make my toothpaste: I stopped and
turned to ginger instead after I heard and verified what cinnamon can do to
gums -- also checked that ginger is safe with both the tech and my own
research. 

At least, knowing about this, if you should ever have painful gums, Bob, you
now know what to drop.

Joyce Miller

 



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RE: CSKidney Failure

2012-01-11 Thread Bob Banever
Sandy,

 

   According to Traditional Japanese Medicine aduki bean juice is very
good for the kidneys.  Black beans are good too.  The juice is the liquid
portion of the beans after you've cooked them for several hours.  

 

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From: Sandy [mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSKidney Failure

 


Hi Joy, a gentleman from another forum posted his regimen for getting off of
dialysis and how it healed his kidneys.

Sandy

Here it is...

Yes Melly--coq10 'was' one of the things I used. I made sure i bought the
highest potent stuff I could find. Maybe i went overboard, but heck,,i'm off
dialysis. I was on dialysis for 2 years, and seen two of my friends die
their at the center. I knew i had to figure out a way of leaving there. I
would go every other day, at 6 in the morning-for 5 hours. It doesn't
hurt,,but man, afterwards, you felt like you were hit with a mack truck.
Fortunately, i knew natural medicine worked, because i used garlic(liquid)
to cure my cat of FIP, and the same thing for my dog years later who had
parvo,and it cured him too. In both cases, the vet wanted to put them
down, but i love animals, and thought that would be like murder. I just
read a lot, I have 400-500 books on natural medicine, sooo,don't give me any
credit. Other people wrote these books, i just learned from them.

yes, you can research on google, kidney disease, and coq10. A dr. Richard
Schulze wrote a book saying,,that no one needs to be on dialysis! Research
him too, i got his books from Amazon.

Ok,,the Coq10 i bought,,is called Liq-Nol. Made by epic4health. Not cheap,
at 130.00 a bottle. You can research this, and get 'ubiquinol', not
ubiquinone,,more potent. Google all this!

The second thing,,er let me say first,,after a while on dialysis,,i decide
to go 'against' what the doctors were preaching to me,,NO VITAMINS,,NO
HERBS,,VERY LITTLE WATER. FINALLY I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,,DIALYSIS IS 'REMOVING
ALL OF THE GOOD STUFF(MINERAL, VITAMINS ETC.) as well as the bad stuff. I
was not getting better. I started taking my vitamins etc..and guess what, I
immediately noticed the difference. Shortly after, I was discharge from
dialysis. My last kidney doctor, a young guy(nephrologist), told me on the
sly,,er,,admitted,,that he believed in what i was saying about 'curing'
people, but,,in order to protect his job, would not exactly preach it to the
other patients! This is the kind of world we live in,,money,,even at the
expense of someones life,,is more important than the truth! My first kidney
doctor was the one who 'scared' me, into 'not' taking any natural things
because it could kill me. I took a chance,,I was right,,he was wrong!
Sorry--got sidetracked.
  
The second thing i took-a whole food supplement, a powerful one called
Green Vibrance. I get most of my stuff from Amazon, but you can search
around for better deals.

The third thing I took,,and i think this had a BIG' impact--'ionized
water. I see a natural health doctor here in Akron Ohio, so I take 3 gallon
jugs to him, because he has a water ionizer. Costs a few bucks a gallon.
Those were the 'biggies' that I did.

Dr. Schulze uses kidney cleansing herbs, which, i guess i must work, but i
didn't follow his exact protocol. I ate lots of garlic, took
astragalus-google that, its amazing. I will think of more things I did and
get back to you all. The doctor(chiropractor) i see here in Akron, is Dr.
Keith Ungar, you can look him up, on  YouTube, and he has teaching(no
selling) videos.  Anyway,,you would think,,the medical guys would be bugging
me on how i got off dialysis,,since no ones hardly done it. Conspiracy of
Silence,,lol.Anyway,,i'm not a writer, but i hope this helps someone I
believe 'everthing, and i mean everything, can be cured with natural
medicine. Its just figuring out the right protocol for your particular
condition.READ READ READ!

Dave

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From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com
Subject: CSKidney Failure
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2012, 12:49 AM

Hi,

For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know
of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean
the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells?
Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to
alleviate pain?

Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest.

Blessings of good health to all,
Joy


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RE: CSbrain a barrier?

2012-01-04 Thread Bob Banever
Neville,

 

   Well of course it hasn't gained exceptance.  It would destroy the
multi-trillion dollar pharma industry's hold on cancer therapy for starters.
Imagine doing away with radiation and chemotherapy as mainstream medicine
and instead treating tumors with a couple of silver wires.  HA!  Never going
to happen.  It wasn't proved in a scientific study.  Now who is going to
conduct a study that will cost millions and make no money for anyone?  There
are MANY ways to treat and cure cancers.. Marijuana oil, limonoids (from
lemons!), herbal therapies of all sorts, frequencies, electricity, juice
fasting and dietary changes, etc.  None of these things will ever be
accepted by mainstream medicine.  Period.

 

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From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 5:12 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSbrain a barrier?

 

That's right, he inserted silver wires either side of the tumour I believe
and ran current through them thus the silver ions produced destroyed the
tumour.

 

His research was never accepted cos he wasn't concerned about satisfying the
powers to be by documenting and publishing his findings.  He was more
concerned about PEOPLES welfare!  Not dissimilar to Beckers funding being
stopped sending him into early retirement cos he went against advice NOT to
publish his findings...and DID publish!

 

N.

 Subject: Re: CSbrain a barrier?
 From: jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp
 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:04:23 +0900
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Several decades ago an MD named Bjorn Nordenstrom, at the Karolinska
Institute, reported success in treating tumors with electrified needles
applied, as I recall, directly to the tumors. So far as I know, this method
has not gained much acceptance. I do not know why. 
 
 
 
 
 On 2012/01/05, at 9:18, Jason R Eaton wrote:
 
  Greetings,
  
  According to Becker's work contrasted with Bart Flick's work contrasted
with Steven Quinto's work, the following statement can be made:
  
  With the right amount of current (extremely small amount), silver ions
delivered by this current can cause cancer cells to dedifferentiate, and
thus return to a pre-cancerous state. However, Becker refuted this claim;
based on his work, it is clear that the RIGHT amount of current must be
used.
  
  Stephen Quinto followed up and studied the effect that silver ions had
on human cancer cells, and found that the silver ion has the capability to
destroy cancer cells. His lab studies were never published, but they were
very interesting.
  
  However, I do not view silver as a primary treatment modality for
cancer, as the silver ion must reach the cancer, and with cancer/tumors in
the body, if you're not a surgeon, getting that task done guaranteed is
not easy.
  
  ~Jason
  
  
  From: slickpic...@cox.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Cc: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 16:04
  Subject: Re: CSbrain a barrier?
  
  
  What is uncontrolled de-differentiation? Perhaps almost a cancer,
perhaps a scar tissue, but
  anyway, not good I can imagine.
  
  So those who nebulize CS are increasing their chances of lung cancer?
  
  Terry
  
   mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com wrote:
  Is there information on silver crossing the blood brain barrier?
  Informed person says it does. I witnessed someone putting a poultice
  of c silver on the arm and this seemed to cause a slightly raised, de
  pigmented scar tissue like area.
  
  If I can vaguely remember, Becker said that silver can de
differentiate
  cells and that skin mediated voltage fields can sustain a re
  differentiation and thus some regeneration of limb and bone, even
  cancerous. I may not have it right, but I dont have the book anymore.
  Another part of the conundrum is that when the silver forms brown
stains
  on the colloidal making apparatus, this is very difficult to clean. So
  I imagine the silver staining the brain and causing dedifferentiation
  and this seems totally frightening. What is uncontrolled
  de-differentiation? Perhaps almost a cancer, perhaps a scar tissue,
but
  anyway, not good I can imagine. Sorry if this has been covered, I
  looked at the archives but didnt find anything
  
  thanks
  
  mg
  
  
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RE: magnetic pulser, was Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

2011-12-21 Thread Bob Banever
PEMF stands for Pulsed Electromagnetic Frequencies.

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: magnetic pulser, was Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

David AuBuchon wrote:
 PEMF and magnetic mattresses are two other magnetic applications.

What is PEMF?
thanks,
sol


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RE: CSnutrasilver experience

2011-12-20 Thread Bob Banever
David,

 

   Have you tried silver tetroxide?  I've found this form of silver to
be very effective for infections.  It's made by a company called Guardian
and they claim it is only 10ppm but it works quite well. Cleared a food
poisoning I had in about 4 or 5 hours.

 

Bob

 

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From: David AuBuchon [mailto:aubuchon.da...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSnutrasilver experience

 

So I got a bottle.  Though it says nothing clear on the paperwork, it is
claimed nanoparticles of silver from 2 to 20nm @ 3600PPM

 

Physical observations:

-dark brown liquid.

-When added to water, it has a tendency to sink, indicating the particles
are clumped together

- I punctured the top of the bottle with a diaper pin.  The instructions
were to do so with a toothpick.  Then drops come out of this hole.  I
estimate I am only getting 300 to 400 drops out of this bottle.  There is a
claimed 600 per bottle (which is the standard drop count for 1 fl. oz.).  I
don't think using a toothpick would have yielded 600 drops.

 

Results:

60 drops gives me some intestinal herx, and couple days of taking 60 drops
once a day, I notice some very slight overall health improvements.  No
systemic herx however.  Could provide some more incremental improvement for
me due to killing bartonella in the intestines, but it will not be able to
handle the systemic problem.

 

It is noteworthy that I get any results at all, as at present, no other
silver product does so for me.  Though EIS does prevent me from backsliding
systemically.  

 

David



Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info

2011-10-24 Thread Bob Banever

Amen.
- Original Message - 
From: Mike W-H th...@telus.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info



I always make judgement in my decisions.
and people should have the god given right to choose when it comes to 
there health and not have someone
stuff something down there  throat and tell them that it is good for 
them..






- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info


That may be so, but you don't appear to be the one who could make a
judgement about it...

Dan

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Mike W-H th...@telus.net wrote:

No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap...

sorry i don't buy it..

the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should 
you
trust them? I don't...are they health 
professionals??

NO!!
So who are they to say what is safe
Why take the risk

Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes 
they

are unsafe?




- Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info



Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is
also a list of links that may be relevant.

Dan

http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml

At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere
with other wireless devices in my home?

Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to
the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a
gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is
2.4 GHz (gigahertz).

The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas
meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will
interfere with any wireless devices in the home.

Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart
Meters been assessed?

The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from
Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the
FCC exposure guidelines.

The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields
were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on
Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines
developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute
of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.

Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on
public health:


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Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info

2011-10-24 Thread Bob Banever

Ambient Microwave Radiation From  Wireless Technologies Linked to Higher
Residential Electricity  Cost
_http://electromagnetichealth.org/media-stories/#Ambient-Microwave_
(http://electromagnetichealth.org/media-stories/#Ambient-Microwave)


High Frequencies from  Neighborhood Cell Phone Antennas Found to Speed Up
Utility Meters, Increasing  Bills


Might you be paying for electricity  you did not use? A couple in upstate
New York noticed their electricity bill had  almost doubled, even though the
rates had not increased and their utility usage  had not changed. The
utility company said they could not explain what had  happened. The couple 
was
aware a cell phone tower had been erected near their  home and every time 
they

added new antennas, their electricity bill  increased.


This couple contacted Dr. Magda  Havas of Trent University in Canada, who
investigated their  situation.   Dr. Havas reviewed four years of the couple’
s utility  bills and discovered the utility bills had increased dramatically
when the  antennas went online. She measured high levels of microwave
radiation in the  home as well as dirty electricity, or high frequency
transients, on the  electrical wiring.


When RF  chokes were placed near the hour-watt meter the cost of monthly
bills  decreased substantially… almost to pre-tower levels. After installing 
a

$10  choke, this couple saved almost $1000 annually on  electricity.


The explanation is simple.   Mechanical hour-watt meters can give
inaccurate readings if frequencies higher  than 60 Hz (cycles per second) 
are present

on the wiring.  The utilities  know this and they have technology to keep
the electrical power operating at a  pure 60 Hz.  However, when higher
frequencies are loaded onto the line,  these frequencies make the hour-watt 
meters

spin faster, giving the appearance  that more electricity is being
consumed.  These false readings are costing  American families hundreds to 
thousands

of dollars each  year.


If your electricity bills are increasing without  any obvious explanation
and if you go on vacation and are using minimal power  but your electricity
bill is still high you may want to investigate this  situation.  You may be
paying for power you are not  consuming.


This case study suggests that further analysis  of electrical utility bills
pre- and post-erection of a cell phone tower is  warranted in cases where
utility bills in homes and offices have increased  without explanation.


Credentialed journalists interested  in pursuing a story on the impact of
ambient RF on utility meter readings may  contact Dr. Magda Havas at
HYPERLINK **mailto:mha...@trentu.ca**  _mhavas@trentu.ca_ 
(mailto:mha...@trentu.ca)

.


- Original Message - 
From: Mike W-H th...@telus.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info



You should watch the movie

Full Signal , to get better educated on the subject

Part 1  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoDUCryS6LY

Part 2  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYBtxjJbmDsfeature=related

Part 3  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzxp1CCtILofeature=related

Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMI8RCKUHE4feature=related

Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ8F81tJwywfeature=related

there is qualified people on this movie that you should listen to, then 
you will know what you are dealing with  and you might just have an 
emotional response when you see that someone is violating your rights, my 
point is that these meters are not optional, when there is other 
alternatives they can use such as wired meters using telephone lines, they 
can give customers an option but don't,,, NOT FAIR, but life never is 
sometimes, people should have the right to choose i believe in my humble 
opinion...


If I came into your house everday and sprayed rat poison, Just a little 
bit into your water every day and told you it is not proven, that in those 
small quantities that it would harm you and that you would need to hear 
from a qualified individual that it is perfectly safe , would you wait to 
hear from that person, then go to bed at night feeling much better?


there is evidence to prove that RF is not good for humans...Physicists 
will tell you otherwise, What long term tests have they don't on this 
technology before launching this on people? NONE


I don't like being a guinea pig, forgive me for having an emotional 
response.







- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info


The point is that you certainly are able to have an emotional
response, but if you are not willing to look at the facts of what you
are actually dealing with then you will not be able to move beyond an
emotional response.

Dan

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Mike W-H th...@telus.net wrote:

I always make judgement in my decisions.
and people should have 

Re: CSElectromedicine

2011-10-24 Thread Bob Banever
Very interesting reading.  I suffer from damage to my lingual nerve from an 
injection of articaine (Septocaine) used as an anesthetic for a dental 
procedure.  This occured in July 07.  I am now 90% improved.  Two things that 
helped me the most were cannabis (it is actually neurogenic over time) and a 
supplement called SupremeB with a small amount of lithium orotate in it.  That 
gave me the most relief.  Also of help was rubbing very hot cayenne pepper into 
my tongue... it burned like heck but after that wore off it gave me relief from 
the burning sensation in my tongue.  I no longer have to use that, nor do I 
smoke week any longer.  I might try chitosan and see if it gives me that last 
10% improvement I'm looking for.  

Bob  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jason R Eaton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 6:20 PM
  Subject: Re: CSElectromedicine


  Hi David:

  I have a rebuilder; I bought it before they received their approval, so the 
price was much more affordable.  :o)

  It is an excellent device, and certainly works well for injuries and 
nueropathy.  I was suprised to find that it is is perfect to use with referred 
pain; possibly even phantom pain.

  ~Jason

  - Original Message - 
From: David AuBuchon 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 18:15
Subject: Re: CSElectromedicine


Here is the article I wrote on nerve damage and spinal cord injury 
treatment options.  It contains everything I know (or don't know) about the 
ReBuilder, and a lot more:


http://scientificliving.net/2010/11/20-natural-ways-to-heal-nerve-damage-and-spinal-cord-injuries/

I had been compiling all this for my dad who has a chronic spinal cord 
injury and is so skeptical it makes one feel sick.  Even he has agreed to try 
some of this stuff in the future after getting berated by me over the course of 
months for his close mindedness / stinginess.  I kept telling him to either try 
this stuff or stop complaining you wish there was something that can be done.  

Some of these can be generically classified as stem cell boosters.  I 
have been meaning to pull all out those out of this webpage and make a page 
just about stem cell boosters.  I think many supplements that we don't formally 
recognize as stem cell boosters in part work that way.  I think it is a 
mechanism of action that is really only starting to be talked about.  

The CEO of Rebuilder Medical has a long comment at the end.  He says he 
actually worked with Dr. Becker interestingly enough.

There are actually a lot of cheap supplements on this list that I would try 
all at once for nerve damage and spinal cord injury.  Some other cheap options 
too such as simply putting some wooden blocks under the head of your head to 
incline your bed at night has improved I think 3 cases of chronic SCI's.

Liposomal colostrum is cheap in bulk powder (not capsules) and is very 
promising for any injury I think.  The Director of that company posted a 
comment saying his product cured a case of spina bifida, a very serious birth 
defect!  Ordinary colostrum also improved one chronic SCI.  

I have some other things in my notes I still have not added to this page 
such as IR therapies and a couple other supplements I can't remember right now. 
 

Nothing can be done for nerve damage and spinal cord injury?...That is BS.

David






On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:01 PM, gaiac...@gmail.com gaiac...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi David.  Does the ReBulider only work on nerves, do you know?  It 
sounds much like the SCIO machine a friend of mine has, only hers works on just 
about everything--in real time, sending back a balancing signal to what it has 
detected as being unbalanced in the body.  But that machine is SUPER expensive! 
 

Samala,
Renee 


  

   




Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info

2011-10-23 Thread Bob Banever

Mike,

 RF readings have shown that smart meters emit far stronger fields than 
they admit, and they emit them for 24/7 in a pulsed arrangement.  From what 
I have read, these smart meters are dangerous.  Nobody knows the health 
effects of microwave radiation, and studies do show increased risk of 
cancer, high blood pressure, cardiac abnormalities, allergies, and other 
health effects.  I have also read that the microwaves can be blocked using 
thick aluminum foil or aluminum screening.  It's best to block in back of 
the meter so no waves enter your house.  If you block the front of the 
meter they won't be able to be read and that might trigger law enforcement 
of some sort.  I'm no expert but I'm reading as much as I can on this.  If 
you live in California you can complain to SC Edison or PGE.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Mike W-H th...@telus.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info



No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap...

sorry i don't buy it..

the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should you 
trust them? I don't...are they health professionals?? 
NO!!

So who are they to say what is safe
Why take the risk

Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes they 
are unsafe?





- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info



Found some useful info at this link.  Below the part I attached is
also a list of links that may be relevant.

Dan

http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml

At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere
with other wireless devices in my home?

Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to
the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a
gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is
2.4 GHz (gigahertz).

The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas
meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will
interfere with any wireless devices in the home.

Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart
Meters been assessed?

The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from
Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the
FCC exposure guidelines.

The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields
were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on
Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines
developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute
of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.

Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on
public health:


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Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info

2011-10-23 Thread Bob Banever

Dan,

Here is a sample letter that I signed and sent to SCEdison.

California Public Utilities Commission
505 Van Ness Avenue
San Francisco, California 94102

  This letter is to inform you that as a California utility customer, I 
demand the removal of wireless utility meters, and wireless Smart Grid 
infrastructure and an immediate restoration of analog utility meters.


The World Health Organization has recently classified radio frequency 
electromagnetic fields (wireless) a possible carcinogen. It is a violation 
of our rights to force the installation of wireless devices upon utility 
customers without fair process of public or environmental review, or proof 
of safety.


I demand an investigation and evidentiary hearings into the safety impacts 
of wireless meters, including over billing, interference, burned out 
appliances, fires and explosions, and health complaints. The people of 
California deserve an opportunity to be heard.


The opt-out proposals before the CPUC are inadequate responses to the 
problems consumers are experiencing. A pay to opt-out option is only 
available to the wealthy.  This option is not equitable and therefore may be 
illegal.  In addition, paying to opt out of a safety hazard is wrong.


We are already paying more for the Smart Meter that we don't want. We want 
the same reliable service of an analog meter with a meter reader, and at no 
additional cost.


Impose an immediate moratorium on wireless utility meters and provide 
immediate relief by restoring the analog meters!


Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter!




- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info



Found some useful info at this link.  Below the part I attached is
also a list of links that may be relevant.

Dan

http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml

At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere
with other wireless devices in my home?

Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to
the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a
gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is
2.4 GHz (gigahertz).

The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas
meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will
interfere with any wireless devices in the home.

Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart
Meters been assessed?

The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from
Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the
FCC exposure guidelines.

The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields
were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on
Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines
developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute
of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.

Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on
public health:


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Re: CSSmart Meter

2011-10-21 Thread Bob Banever
Melly,

 Smart meters usually have a digital read out on them.  Do you have this 
anywhere on the face?

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melly Bag 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 3:42 PM
  Subject: CSSmart Meter


I went out just now to take a look at our electric meter.  It does not 
have the little clocks.

The meter  looks like a taxi meter, not LED or digitalized.  The brand 
of the meter is Elster, however, at the bottom it reads DCSI SMT3.  I did a 
search on DCSI SMT and it is a smart meter.  I also found an article that 
ELSTER and DCSI have joined to produce/use a certain kind of meter, which i 
don't understand.  The article is here:  http://www.metering.com/node/10226

Can someone tell me if indeed this is a smart meter?  

Thanks.

Melly 


Re: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-20 Thread Bob Banever

Scott,

 I felt an immediate sense of relief after the first dose of MMS... it 
got progressively better after that so I know the MMS was killing the bad 
bacteria.  I've never used more than 6 drops of chlorine dioxide at a time 
diluted in 4 oz of water, and most of the time it's only two drops.  I've 
also never used it for more than two days at a time and never suffered any 
side effects short or long term.  I also use CS but haven't found it to be 
as effective for viral conditions.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: CSOT - MMS



Food poisoning can pass by itself in that length of time.

MMS is indiscriminate. It will damage organs as readily as a pathogen.  It
like being in a room of kids and thugs and closing your eyes and shooting.
No idea at all what you will hit.

Why take the risk? CS is far safer.

Scott Adams
www.lyme-resource.com
You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
Adams



-Original Message-
From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS

David and All,

   MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer
than any antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range
of pathogens.  Sure accidents can happen... and if someone is
getting sick on one or two drops of MMS then this is a HERX
reaction... something is wrong with the patient, not the
medicine.  I have used this for over three years for colds
and a case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has
shortened the duration of the illness to 3 days maximum,
usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in less than 18
hours, truly amazing.

Bob
- Original Message -
From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS


 Three injuries I have heard personally, without even
looking for them:

 -A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye
 -2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using
 unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite)

 ~David


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Re: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-18 Thread Bob Banever
PT,

   I've used MMS for a few years on and off now.  I've never had any side 
effects whatsoever and yes, you should stop taking Vit.C in any form while 
taking it.  Vit.C can be taken after two hours however.  You should use apple 
cider vinegar, not white vinegar.  I've never used vinegar, always citric acid 
or lemon juice.  Good luck.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: PTFerrance 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:54 AM
  Subject: CSOT - MMS


  Hi,

  I have a couple of questions about MMS for those who use it, if you don't 
mind answering.

   

  First, when using vinegar will any vinegar do the job. white or apple cider?

   

  Second, do you stop taking your multi-vitamin while using MMS?  Since most 
have Vit C in them and one is supposed to take the MMS every 2 hours or so it 
would seem that it is necessary to discontinue supplements with Vit C.

   

  Thanks for any help you can give.

  PT


Re: CSsmart meter shielding

2011-10-18 Thread Bob Banever
Shirley,

   I have one too.  If you live in California you can protest to the DPUC 
on their website.  If they recieve enough complaints they will ban the things.  
I complained yesterday.  They say aluminum foil (double or triple thickness) 
will block the energy.  Put sheets on the wall behind the meter between you and 
the meter.  You can wrap the outside of the meter as well... just keep the 
front uncovered so Edison can read it.  If they cannot they might send someone 
to your house.  From what I understand all of the meters around you communicate 
with each other.  

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shirley Reed 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:59 AM
  Subject: CSsmart meter shielding


  Anyone know if tachyon items can shield from this thing??   If the energy 
from these meters travels for 5 miles, then we would need to shield from 
everyone's meters and that doesn't seem possible.  But it is quite possible 
that I don't understand the situation.  :)  If the energy goes out from 
everyones meter, does it go just in one direction or all around?  Seems to me 
that we need to know this before any strategy can be devised for protection.   
My house has one of these things.  Scary.   pj


Re: CSOT - MMS

2011-10-18 Thread Bob Banever

David and All,

  MMS can be a life saver... it is certainly far safer than any 
antibiotic and much more effective for a wider range of pathogens.  Sure 
accidents can happen... and if someone is getting sick on one or two drops 
of MMS then this is a HERX reaction... something is wrong with the patient, 
not the medicine.  I have used this for over three years for colds and a 
case of food poisoning... in EVERY instance it has shortened the duration of 
the illness to 3 days maximum, usually 2, and my food poisoning was gone in 
less than 18 hours, truly amazing.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT - MMS



Three injuries I have heard personally, without even looking for them:

-A patient went blind in one eye after getting MMS in his eye
-2 patients had collapsed veins after an IV MMS treatment using
unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite)

~David


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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Bob Banever

Dan,

I live in So. Cal and already have a smart meter on my house.  I'm 
livid as I didn't even know they installed it (probably two years ago). 
I've always had issues with my health living here.   Tiredness and malaise 
mostly.  As soon as I leave on vacation I feel better.  Happens every time. 
I called SC Edison and they said they cannot remove the meter until the DPU 
ok's the opt out.   In the meantime I covered the meter with a double layer 
of thick aluminum foil.  I haven't shielded the back of the unit though 
I can't get in back of it.  I'm wondering if I put foil up on the wall 
inside my house directly in back if that will shield me.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: CSsmart meter


You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
strength of any emission into the house.  That should take care of it.

Dan

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:

The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying 
please
do not change my meter . I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said 
at

this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list. Right now I
am on their delay list.

I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it
affects privacy issues. Jess

From: Elizabeth Williams
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter

I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it 
in

the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could
legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near
the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I
have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city 
a

letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.

Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com



From: jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
Subject: CSsmart meter

silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;

is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects? This morning 
a
utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a 
smart

meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I live in southern
California.

I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and 
sleep
problems. The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I 
read

that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
anyone know about this subject?

thanks, Jess



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Re: CSsmart meter

2011-10-17 Thread Bob Banever
Lena,

  Thick aluminum foil should do the trick.  On YouTube there is a 
demonstration of someone using a turkey roasting pot made of thick aluminum 
foil... after covering the meter it blocked 100% of the radiation.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Guyot Léna 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:42 PM
  Subject: Re: CSsmart meter


  I'd imagine that lessemf.com would probably have something you could use to 
eliminate the hazard from the meter, if worse comes to worse. I've phoned them 
and they're pretty helpful and knowledgeable.


  Be well,
  Léna

  On Oct 17, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Dan Nave wrote:


  You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal
  shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the
  strength of any emission into the house.  That should take care of it.


  Dan


  On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter
travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying please
do not change my meter .  I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said at
this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California
Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list.  Right now I
am on their delay list.


I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it
affects privacy issues. Jess


From: Elizabeth Williams
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSsmart meter


I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it in
the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things
for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could
legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near
the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I
padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I
have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city a
letter stating that I dont want this smart meter.


Elizabeth Williams
belzi...@hotmail.com





From: jessi...@optonline.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700
Subject: CSsmart meter


silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com;


is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects?  This morning a
utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a smart
meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I  live in southern
California.


I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and sleep
problems.  The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read
that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does
anyone know about this subject?


thanks, Jess




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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #296

2011-09-28 Thread Bob Banever
Melly,

 Silver disrupts enzymes necessary for single cellular respiration... it 
doesn't affect multi-cellular organisms at all.  That would be us.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melly Bag 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 7:10 PM
  Subject: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #296


Sandee, David, and anyone who has read the report,

I don't think i am getting that report quite right,  i am pretty bad at 
this kind of things.  It said that the silver kills the cells' enzymes and 
thereby kills the cells.  Will this not affect our health?

Thanks.

Melly

--- On Wed, 9/28/11, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote:


  From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
  Subject: silver-digest Digest V2011 #296
  To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
  Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 12:45 PM

   


Re: CSTel - black salve

2011-09-27 Thread Bob Banever
LOL
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tel Tofflemire 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:02 PM
  Subject: Re: CSTel - black salve


  LETS PUT IT  THIS WAY, I MOVED AWAY FROM MY WIFE, I AM NOW SINGLE AGAIN.

  Tel Tofflemire
  ALB. NEW MEXICO

--
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:14 AM
  Subject: Re: CSTel - black salve

  Thanks Tel, why the  move?  dee


  On 27 Sep 2011, at 14:35, Tel Tofflemire wrote:

   YOU ARE WELCOME DEE,  JUST DON'T GET TOO MUCH LIQUID IN THE TUB STIR AND 
LET IT ABSORB , 
   DID YOU SEE I HAVE MOVED, TO NEW MEXICO ?

   Tel Tofflemire
   ALB. NEW MEXICO
   QUAILWOOD HERBAL.COM
   From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:25 AM
   Subject: Re: CSTel - black salve
   
   thanks Tel and PT.  dee
   
   


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Re: CS44 PPM

2011-09-22 Thread Bob Banever
Jason,

 I thought Mesosilver was mostly particulate, with little or no ionic 
content.   Most of the home brews are at least 80% ionic, or so I thought.

 Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jason R Eaton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 4:43 PM
  Subject: Re: CS44 PPM


  Hi Alan:

  It's the age old arguement.  Frank says that the reason people experience 
good results with a good quality home brew is the particulate content.  The 
counter-arguement is that the reason people experience results with Mesosilver 
is its ionic content.

  Best Regards,

  Jason


  - Original Message - 
From: Alan Jones 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:29
Subject: Re: CS44 PPM


I wonder if Frank has changed his mind about this?  I was scanning his web 
site and he seems to be saying that ingesting ionic silver is useless. 


All ionic silver will turn into silver chloride once inside the body 
because of the readily available supply of chloride ions in many different 
forms.



http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutIonic.html


Alan


On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Jonathan B. Britten 
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

  I'm baffled by the comments.  As I stated, Frank Key has stated clearly 
on the Silver List, he recognizes the efficacy of the EIS that most members 
make.  That's a matter of record; it's in the archives.I don't understand 
the need to attack him here in this manner.



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Re: CS44 PPM

2011-09-22 Thread Bob Banever
Neville,

 But since the ionic content of Mesosilver is almost nonexistant how can 
the results be attributed to it's ionic content?  Particle silver perhaps 
becomes ionic in the presence of stomach acid?  

 Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Neville Munn 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:56 PM
  Subject: RE: CS44 PPM


  Apologies, I did lose something in translation.  I misread it.  I read that 
several times, and only AFTER posting did I get it.
   
  The suggestion is that it's NOT the particle content in Mesosilver, but 
rather the ION content that gets results.
   
  Sorry, as you were.
   
  N.
   


--
  From: one.red...@hotmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CS44 PPM
  Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:22:54 +1030


  Unless I've misread something, all the advertising I've read regarding 
Mesosilver is that it purports to be high in *particulate* content?
   
  Have I lost something in translation?
   
  N.
   


--
  From: ja...@eytonsearth.org
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS44 PPM
  Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:43:02 -0700


  Hi Alan:

  It's the age old arguement.  Frank says that the reason people experience 
good results with a good quality home brew is the particulate content.  The 
counter-arguement is that the reason people experience results with Mesosilver 
is its ionic content.

  Best Regards,

  Jason


  - Original Message - 
From: Alan Jones 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:29
Subject: Re: CS44 PPM


I wonder if Frank has changed his mind about this?  I was scanning his web 
site and he seems to be saying that ingesting ionic silver is useless. 


All ionic silver will turn into silver chloride once inside the body 
because of the readily available supply of chloride ions in many different 
forms.



http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutIonic.html


Alan


On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Jonathan B. Britten 
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

  I'm baffled by the comments.  As I stated, Frank Key has stated clearly 
on the Silver List, he recognizes the efficacy of the EIS that most members 
make.  That's a matter of record; it's in the archives.I don't understand 
the need to attack him here in this manner.



-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor 
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to 
the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)


Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Bob Banever

Jonathan,

 Forgive me, but what is EM.   Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 8:23 PM
Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima


Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential 
Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM shop 
told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM on 
contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down to 
5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.


He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat 
problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get 
more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers consume 
EM themselves.


Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this 
disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three 
melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one instance; 
some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth 
toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to 
date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical of 
government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, but 
that's all off-topic.





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Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

2011-09-17 Thread Bob Banever

Yep... got it thanks.

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: CSBioremediation at Fukushima



I think its Essential Microorganisms. Someone please correct if wrong.
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld

-Original Message-
From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:40:21
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

What does EM mean?
Thanks.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp]
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSBioremediation at Fukushima

Some members, particularly Brooks Bradley, are familiar with the Essential
Microorganisms  (EM) of Terao Higa, PhD.  The proprietor of a local EM 
shop
told me today that volunteers in Fukushima area are experimenting with EM 
on
contaminated crops.  He said blueberries went from 20,000 becquerels down 
to

5,000, a 75% drop.  I don't know the details.

He also said people volunteering in that area are suffering from throat
problems, which I took to be due to radiation, but am not sure.  If I get
more details I'll pass them along.Incidentally, these volunteers 
consume

EM themselves.

Incidentally, most of the news in the corporate press regarding this
disaster is, to put it mildly, inadequate.  There have been at least three
melt-downs and apparently a total melt-through in at least in one 
instance;

some experts fear that radiation is actually moving down through the earth
toward groundwater.   Given the sugar-coating in the mainstream news to
date, this is certainly possible.   Japanese people are deeply skeptical 
of
government reports, and I think some major changes are ahead for Japan, 
but

that's all off-topic.




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Re: CSBob Banever

2011-09-17 Thread Bob Banever
Renee,

   Sorry, it wasn't me.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: gaiac...@gmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:26 AM
  Subject: CSBob Banever


Bob--was it you that sent me the phone number of Ol' Bob's wife for me 
to ask her for permission to use his info?  If so, could you send it to me 
again?  3 to 4 weeks ago I had a major OS crash and though I was able to save 
my files/folders, I lost all my email and contacts.  It wiped my incredimail.  
Sigh

Samala,
Renee 



   
  
   


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