Re: Multiple Windows

2010-06-26 Thread Daniel

Beverly Howard wrote:

What I normally see when this occurs is a (not responding) message in
the windows title bar.

While it is highly irritating, I have found that when I switch to
another (non SM) window, a few minutes later SM starts responding.

I have also found that if I look at task manager after one of these
events, I frequently find multiple instances of seamonkey running... so,
I shut down the current instance of SM, then use task manager to kill
the old SM processes.

I am always reluctant to kill the current instance of SM based on having
had either profile or bookmark corruption from doing so.

Beverly Howard


Beverley, do you have to reply to postings without quoting any of the 
previous posts??


I understand that at the moment, I can click on the message prior to 
your's to see what you are talking about, but, at some time in the 
future, the previous message will have expired from the server, and 
people will be left wondering what the heck Beverley was talking about!!


There is no need to fully quote the message you are replying to (but you 
can), you can cut the bits you're not responding to, if you wish!!


Daniel
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Re: Multiple bookmark entries.

2010-06-26 Thread Daniel

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Bernard Mercier a pensé très fort :

Daniel a pensé très fort :

James E. Morrow wrote:

Bernard Mercier wrote:

I am prety sure I have multiple bookmarks to the same url.
Will there be development in the bookmarks manager to detect those?
If not what solutions have posters here for this? (I didn't find an
addon for
it)


You may wish to consider AM Dead Link.

http://www.aignes.com/deadlink.htm

I've used it for some years now and it seems to work with Seamonkey
(which it may find as Mozilla Suite) Opera, IE and Chrome. The program
helps to eliminate obsolete and duplicate bookmarks.




James, when I last used AMdeadlink, it checked each of the bookmarks to
see it the address was still a valid address. You could have had the
same address in your addressbook nineteen times, and AMdeadlink would
check that the address was valid, nineteen times, so no solve, the OP's
problem.



IMHO, of course.



Daniel

Thanks for specifying.
I did use quite some time ago AMdeadlink also, but didn't remember it found
duplicate bookmarks.



Rechecking the AMdeadlink website it specifies a check for duplicate now
also. Maybe time to revist that functionality.

Downloaded it and installed.
The check for duplicate is grayed out when checking the bookmarks.html of
SeaMonkey.
I get e lot of error indications, but not sure if it are false errors.
Maybe be it's because I am running in wine.



I dual boot Win7/MandrivaLinux. If I remember, tomorrow I'll download 
Deadlink, install it and see how I go.


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Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read

2010-06-26 Thread Arnie Goetchius

NoOp wrote:

On 06/25/2010 12:54 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:


,,,




If you've a problem with SeaMonkey, please feel free to move on to some
other application. Otherwise file a bug report (or point to an existing
bug report), contribute time to the project. Did I miss where you'd
previously filed a bug report? If so I appologize  would appreciate it
if you could remind me by supplying the url to the bug report.



FYI, The relevant bug report is located at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465116
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Re: Automatic 2.0.5 version

2010-06-26 Thread Daniel

Pat Connors wrote:

I was surprised this morning when I clicked on SM and found I had an
automatic download from SeaMonkey that I didn't ask for. When the
browser finally load, it said I now had 2.0.5. I have been on SM since
Netscape stopped updating and this has never happened before.

When I read the list, it was mentioned that this not the full 2.0.5 but
a security update. What does that mean? Under Help, About SeaMonkey, it
says I am using version 2.0.5. I guess I need a clarification on whether
this is 5 or not 5.



Pat, it would seem that you have had a non-automatic update performed on 
you.


In Edit-Preferences-Advanced-Software Installation, you should be 
able to set up how you want SM to update, or to inform you of updates 
being available. At least that's how I read it!!


I've got mine set up to check for Updates weekly and then for SM to Ask 
me what to do, but I cannot recall (for sometime, at least) being asked 
what I what to happen, just at times when I start SM, it tells me it is 
applying update.it never asks if I want to apply the updates.


Seems something is wrong here!

Daniel
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Re: Multiple Windows

2010-06-26 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Daniel wrote:

 but I cannot tell what OS you are using (Whats Warp 4.5??).

I see nobody has answered that for you yet. It is OS/2.

I was a Warp user for a time during the mid-90s, and might have remained
so, except there was not a lot of productive software available for the
platform -- or at least not for the kind of work I was required to do.

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Download Manager SM 2.0.5

2010-06-26 Thread Brian
I have discovered the following issues with Download Manager (DM):
(Basically, the same functionality of SM 1.1.18 needs to be carried
forward/restored in 2.0.5.)

Currently, 2.0.5 DM lacks the following:

1 -- If the DM in 2.0.5 is enabled and is either minimized or not the
primary window on the desk top, SM 2.0.5 always brings it to the
foreground (primary window) when any type of download is invoked from
an email link, email attachment, or web page element.  SM 1.1.18 did
not do this in that the state of the DM window was never changed upon
initiating a download.  This 2.0.5 version creates a major hassle
because it requires the user to constantly re-minimize the DM window
in order to continue with whatever following downloads the user wishes
to pursue.  This becomes very annoying very quickly.  The DM is often
used to record a history of downloads.  But the only way around this
problem is to shut the DM off, which means that no download history is
recorded.

2 -- In the SM 2.0.5 Edit/Preferences/Browser/Downloads settings
window, you currently have the following:
When starting a download:
   [_] Flash the Download Manager if it's already open.
Otherwise:
(  ) Open the Download Manager
(  ) Open a progress dialog
(  ) Don't open anything

You should add these options to that list:

   When the Download Manager is minimized:
 (x) it should be brought to the foreground (default)
 (  ) it should stay minimized

   When the Download Manager is not the primary window:
 (x) it should be brought to the foreground (default)
 (  ) it should remain in the background


3 -- The DM history records from 1.1.18 were not migrated over to
2.0.5 when the conversion was done.  That history needs to be
preserved because sometimes it is necessary to do a re-download of a
file.  The DM history provided a very convenient way of finding that
file and the URL with with to re-download it from.

4 -- It would be nice to be able to save a DM history records off to a
file.  This way, a person can keep the DM clean and to a minimum and
yet still have access to the history of prior downloads.  This should
include the functionality of being able to select which records to
save off.  And as those are saved, they would then be removed from the
DM history window.
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Download Manager (SM 2.0.5) window always in foreground

2010-06-26 Thread Brian
I have discovered the following issues with Download Manager (DM):
(Basically, the same functionality of SM 1.1.18 needs to be carried
forward/restored in 2.0.5.)

Currently, 2.0.5 DM lacks the following:

1 -- If the DM in 2.0.5 is enabled and is either minimized or not the
primary window on the desk top, SM 2.0.5 always brings it to the
foreground (primary window) when any type of download is invoked from
an email link, email attachment, or web page element.  SM 1.1.18 did
not do this in that the state of the DM window was never changed upon
initiating a download.  This 2.0.5 version creates a major hassle
because it requires the user to constantly re-minimize the DM window
in order to continue with whatever following downloads the user wishes
to pursue.  This becomes very annoying very quickly.  The DM is often
used to record a history of downloads.  But the only way around this
problem is to shut the DM off, which means that no download history is
recorded.

2 -- In the SM 2.0.5 Edit/Preferences/Browser/Downloads settings
window, you currently have the following:
When starting a download:
   [_] Flash the Download Manager if it's already open.
Otherwise:
(  ) Open the Download Manager
(  ) Open a progress dialog
(  ) Don't open anything

You should add these options to that list:

   When the Download Manager is minimized:
 (x) it should be brought to the foreground (default)
 (  ) it should stay minimized

   When the Download Manager is not the primary window:
 (x) it should be brought to the foreground (default)
 (  ) it should remain in the background


3 -- The DM history records from 1.1.18 were not migrated over to
2.0.5 when the conversion was done.  That history needs to be
preserved because sometimes it is necessary to do a re-download of a
file.  The DM history provided a very convenient way of finding that
file and the URL with with to re-download it from.

4 -- It would be nice to be able to save a DM history records off to a
file.  This way, a person can keep the DM clean and to a minimum and
yet still have access to the history of prior downloads.  This should
include the functionality of being able to select which records to
save off.  And as those are saved, they would then be removed from the
DM history window.
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Re: Automatic 2.0.5 version

2010-06-26 Thread Robert Kaiser

Pat Connors schrieb:

When I read the list, it was mentioned that this not the full 2.0.5 but
a security update.


The full 2.0.5 is a security update to 2.0.4, so I don't understand what 
you mean...


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Re: Multiple bookmark entries.

2010-06-26 Thread Ed Mullen

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Bernard Mercier a pensé très fort :

Daniel a pensé très fort :

James E. Morrow wrote:

Bernard Mercier wrote:

I am prety sure I have multiple bookmarks to the same url.
Will there be development in the bookmarks manager to detect those?
If not what solutions have posters here for this? (I didn't find an
addon for
it)


You may wish to consider AM Dead Link.

http://www.aignes.com/deadlink.htm

I've used it for some years now and it seems to work with Seamonkey
(which it may find as Mozilla Suite) Opera, IE and Chrome. The program
helps to eliminate obsolete and duplicate bookmarks.




James, when I last used AMdeadlink, it checked each of the bookmarks to
see it the address was still a valid address. You could have had the
same address in your addressbook nineteen times, and AMdeadlink would
check that the address was valid, nineteen times, so no solve, the OP's
problem.



IMHO, of course.



Daniel

Thanks for specifying.
I did use quite some time ago AMdeadlink also, but didn't remember it found
duplicate bookmarks.



Rechecking the AMdeadlink website it specifies a check for duplicate now
also. Maybe time to revist that functionality.

Downloaded it and installed.
The check for duplicate is grayed out when checking the bookmarks.html of
SeaMonkey.
I get e lot of error indications, but not sure if it are false errors.
Maybe be it's because I am running in wine.



I installed the latest version (4.1) in Win 7 Professional.  Here's what 
I found.


It doesn't know about SeaMonkey it won't use the places.sqlite file to 
check bookmarks; you have to open the bookmarks.html file.  However, it 
won't check dupes in an HTML file.  So, here's what I did.


I copied places.sqlite from my SM profile into my Firefox profile.  Ran 
AMDeadlink on the FF bookmarks, eliminating dupes and broken links.  Exited.


Copied places.sqlite from FF to SM.

All done.

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Re: Multiple bookmark entries.

2010-06-26 Thread Ed Mullen

Ed Mullen wrote:

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Bernard Mercier a pensé très fort :

Daniel a pensé très fort :

James E. Morrow wrote:

Bernard Mercier wrote:

I am prety sure I have multiple bookmarks to the same url.
Will there be development in the bookmarks manager to detect those?
If not what solutions have posters here for this? (I didn't find an
addon for
it)


You may wish to consider AM Dead Link.

http://www.aignes.com/deadlink.htm

I've used it for some years now and it seems to work with Seamonkey
(which it may find as Mozilla Suite) Opera, IE and Chrome. The program
helps to eliminate obsolete and duplicate bookmarks.




James, when I last used AMdeadlink, it checked each of the bookmarks to
see it the address was still a valid address. You could have had the
same address in your addressbook nineteen times, and AMdeadlink would
check that the address was valid, nineteen times, so no solve, the OP's
problem.



IMHO, of course.



Daniel

Thanks for specifying.
I did use quite some time ago AMdeadlink also, but didn't remember it
found
duplicate bookmarks.



Rechecking the AMdeadlink website it specifies a check for duplicate now
also. Maybe time to revist that functionality.

Downloaded it and installed.
The check for duplicate is grayed out when checking the bookmarks.html of
SeaMonkey.
I get e lot of error indications, but not sure if it are false errors.
Maybe be it's because I am running in wine.



I installed the latest version (4.1) in Win 7 Professional. Here's what
I found.

It doesn't know about SeaMonkey it won't use the places.sqlite file to
check bookmarks; you have to open the bookmarks.html file. However, it
won't check dupes in an HTML file. So, here's what I did.

I copied places.sqlite from my SM profile into my Firefox profile. Ran
AMDeadlink on the FF bookmarks, eliminating dupes and broken links. Exited.

Copied places.sqlite from FF to SM.

All done.



OK, hold everything.  Ignore the above.  I'm still working on this.

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Re: Multiple bookmark entries.

2010-06-26 Thread Ed Mullen

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Bernard Mercier a pensé très fort :

Daniel a pensé très fort :

James E. Morrow wrote:

Bernard Mercier wrote:

I am prety sure I have multiple bookmarks to the same url.
Will there be development in the bookmarks manager to detect those?
If not what solutions have posters here for this? (I didn't find an
addon for
it)


You may wish to consider AM Dead Link.

http://www.aignes.com/deadlink.htm

I've used it for some years now and it seems to work with Seamonkey
(which it may find as Mozilla Suite) Opera, IE and Chrome. The
program
helps to eliminate obsolete and duplicate bookmarks.



Rechecking the AMdeadlink website it specifies a check for duplicate
now
also. Maybe time to revist that functionality.

Downloaded it and installed.
The check for duplicate is grayed out when checking the
bookmarks.html of
SeaMonkey.
I get e lot of error indications, but not sure if it are false errors.
Maybe be it's because I am running in wine.



OK, hold everything. Ignore the above. I'm still working on this.



SeaMonkey is still storing bookmarks in the HTML file.  places.sqlite 
holds the history.


Backup your profiles before doing this:

1.  In Firefox do Bookmarks - Organize Bookmarks
2.  Delete all the bookmarks
3.  Choose Import and Backup - Import HTML
4.  Select your SeaMonkey bookmarks.html file
5.  Close Firefox
6.  Run AMDeadlink and select Firefox 3
7.  Click the Find Duplicates button
8.  Eliminate the dupes you don't want
9.  Click the check button if you want to find dead links
10.  Exit AMD
11.  Open FF - Bookmarks - Organize Bookmarks
12.  Choose Import and Backup
13.  Choose Export HTML and save the file to your SM profile

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.5 Security Update

2010-06-26 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 26/6/2010 02:11, flyguy told the world:

 My laptop has not updated automatically. I have it set for don't check 
 for updates automatically - is that the reason? I definitely DO NOT 
 want it to update automatically at any time, as I'm using mobile 
 broadband with limited bytes/month, and I don't want to over my allotment.

Well, Thunderbird checked my extensions, found some that weren't tagged
as compatible with 2.0.5, and then prompted me if I really wanted to
upgrade, considering it would have to disable those extensions. I expect
Firefox and Seamonkey act in a similar way.

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i'm curious

2010-06-26 Thread user

... can one charge his 'From' field in message
to html. i want to do... blinkName/blink

any hints???
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Re: i'm curious

2010-06-26 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
u...@domain.invalid wrote:

 ... can one charge his 'From' field in message
 to html. i want to do... blinkName/blink
 
 any hints???

You had some answers when you asked the same question two days ago.
Message-ID: uyydncjgjvd4vr7rnz2dnuvz_uidn...@mozilla.org

No, you can't apply styling and HTML to mail header items.

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Re: Multiple Windows

2010-06-26 Thread Beverly Howard
 do you have to reply to postings without quoting any of the previous 
posts?? 


Will comply... I apologize for the bad habit of assuming that everyone 
here is using SeaMonkey's newsreader and with threads with unread set ;-)


Beverly Howard

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Re: Multiple Windows

2010-06-26 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Beverly Howard wrote:

 [Daniel wrote:  attribute restored]
 do you have to reply to postings without quoting any of the previous
 posts??  
 
 Will comply... I apologize for the bad habit of assuming that
 everyone here is using SeaMonkey's newsreader and with threads with
 unread set ;-)

Daniel is using SeaMonkey. However, there are dozens? of ways one could
configure his/her newsreader, and one popular way is to Hide Read
Messages.  

My choice is Hide Read Messages, and Sort by Subject, DateTime.

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Re: i'm curious

2010-06-26 Thread user

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:


... can one charge his 'From' field in message
to html. i want to do...blinkName/blink

any hints???


You had some answers when you asked the same question two days ago.
Message-ID:uyydncjgjvd4vr7rnz2dnuvz_uidn...@mozilla.org

No, you can't apply styling and HTML to mail header items.


... thx
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Re: i'm curious

2010-06-26 Thread user

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:


... can one charge his 'From' field in message
to html. i want to do...blinkName/blink

any hints???


You had some answers when you asked the same question two days ago.
Message-ID:uyydncjgjvd4vr7rnz2dnuvz_uidn...@mozilla.org

No, you can't apply styling and HTML to mail header items.


... thx
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Re: Multiple Windows

2010-06-26 Thread Beverly Howard

 and one popular way is to Hide Read Messages. 

Thanks, I fully understand that... and most newsreaders offer that 
option.  I will endeavor to resume selective relevant quoting here.


It took me years to find and discover the power of Mozilla's threads 
with unread ...which hides all messages related to threads that don't 
have current posts, while allowing instant access to all prior messages 
within the threads that have new posts giving fast and accurate 
reference to the entire thread.


Beverly Howard






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Re: Missing in SeaMonkey 2.0.5

2010-06-26 Thread Evan Davidson

Arne wrote:

Upgrading from 2.0 and all went well, as it seems so far.
But now I'm missing the Tab X extension, as it is not compatible with 
2.0.5 :(





Try Sea Tab X; it works for 2.0.5 and there's a separate version for the 
upcoming 2.1. You can find it at: 
http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/extensions.html#seatabx



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Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read

2010-06-26 Thread Ray_Net

NoOp wrote:

On 06/25/2010 12:54 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:


,,,

without reading, you can mark read, then delete.



That's not the issue. If you mark as unread and then delete, it is
moved to Trash and the status is changed to read. In 1.x, after
marking as unread and deleting, it is moved to Trash and the status
stayed as unread. In 2.x, after marking as unread and deleting, it
is moved to Trash and the status is changed to read.


Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem.
When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while with the
delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the mail
are changed. Someone told us that resetting the unread status is done
by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers lives
in their gold-tower.


Cool your jets.  I think that you're beating a dead horse as 1.1.x is
dead. There is an option in 2.x preferences to not mark spam as read,
but as far as I can recall there is no such option to do the same with
deleated mail. (Don't know I'd have to reinstall 1.x to check but I won't).

Regarding But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. I've no idea
what gold-tower you imagine. The 'developers' are volunteers that
contribute *their time* freely to this project. If you'd like to do the
same then I'm sure that you can find your way to the dev pages. Here,
let me help you:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/
  http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved

Your comments regarding the developpers (sic) is both incorrect and
offensive. As a 'user' and 'volunteer tester' of SeaMonkey I've no
problem with pointing out issues and/or problems with SM and/or
reporting bugs if the issue is serious enough. In nearly all cases I've
received positive response from the SeaMonkey volunteers (developers).

If you've a problem with SeaMonkey, please feel free to move on to some
other application. Otherwise file a bug report (or point to an existing
bug report), contribute time to the project. Did I miss where you'd
previously filed a bug report? If so I appologize  would appreciate it
if you could remind me by supplying the url to the bug report.







So far so god - BUT - when a mail is readed - it's normal to change 
their status from unread to readed.
When an unreaded message is deleted, it's normal when moving this 
message to the trash folder that his status stays an unread - *because* 
no read action was performed.


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Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read

2010-06-26 Thread Phillip Jones

Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 06/25/2010 12:54 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:


,,,

without reading, you can mark read, then delete.



That's not the issue. If you mark as unread and then delete, it is
moved to Trash and the status is changed to read. In 1.x, after
marking as unread and deleting, it is moved to Trash and the status
stayed as unread. In 2.x, after marking as unread and deleting, it
is moved to Trash and the status is changed to read.


Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem.
When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while with the
delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the mail
are changed. Someone told us that resetting the unread status is done
by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers lives
in their gold-tower.


Cool your jets.  I think that you're beating a dead horse as 1.1.x is
dead. There is an option in 2.x preferences to not mark spam as read,
but as far as I can recall there is no such option to do the same with
deleated mail. (Don't know I'd have to reinstall 1.x to check but I won't).

Regarding But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. I've no idea
what gold-tower you imagine. The 'developers' are volunteers that
contribute *their time* freely to this project. If you'd like to do the
same then I'm sure that you can find your way to the dev pages. Here,
let me help you:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/
   http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved

Your comments regarding the developpers (sic) is both incorrect and
offensive. As a 'user' and 'volunteer tester' of SeaMonkey I've no
problem with pointing out issues and/or problems with SM and/or
reporting bugs if the issue is serious enough. In nearly all cases I've
received positive response from the SeaMonkey volunteers (developers).

If you've a problem with SeaMonkey, please feel free to move on to some
other application. Otherwise file a bug report (or point to an existing
bug report), contribute time to the project. Did I miss where you'd
previously filed a bug report? If so I appologize   would appreciate it
if you could remind me by supplying the url to the bug report.








So far so god - BUT - when a mail is read - it's normal to change
their status from unread to read.
When an unread message is deleted, it's normal when moving this
message to the trash folder that his status stays an unread - *because*
no read action was performed.


 Have you looked at these:
http://screencast.com/t/ZmZhNjZmOWI
http://screencast.com/t/ZmJhYjZkMTM

You can turn these actions on or off just by checking or un-checking.

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how to automatically save files?

2010-06-26 Thread Lee
SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain
file types - the latest example being
  http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx
where I get

You have chosen to open
whatever.pptx
which is a: Microsoft PowerPoint Presentation
from http://whatever

What should SeaMonkey do with this file?


and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line
is greyed out.
Is there some way for me to manually go in and force all .pptx files
to be saved instead of asking every time I download a .pptx file if I
want to open it with some application?

SeaMonkey 2.0.5 running on Windows Vista

Thanks,
Lee
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Re: Deleted Messages Moved to Trash folder as read

2010-06-26 Thread Arnie Goetchius

Phillip Jones wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 06/25/2010 12:54 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:


,,,

without reading, you can mark read, then delete.



That's not the issue. If you mark as unread and then delete, it is
moved to Trash and the status is changed to read. In 1.x, after
marking as unread and deleting, it is moved to Trash and the status
stayed as unread. In 2.x, after marking as unread and deleting, it
is moved to Trash and the status is changed to read.


Most of people doesn't understand this simple problem.
When a mail is moved from one folder to another one (even while with
the
delete action) this is not normal that the characteristics of the mail
are changed. Someone told us that resetting the unread status is done
by design; therefore this is a *BAD* design. But the developpers lives
in their gold-tower.


Cool your jets. I think that you're beating a dead horse as 1.1.x is
dead. There is an option in 2.x preferences to not mark spam as read,
but as far as I can recall there is no such option to do the same with
deleated mail. (Don't know I'd have to reinstall 1.x to check but I
won't).

Regarding But the developpers lives in their gold-tower. I've no idea
what gold-tower you imagine. The 'developers' are volunteers that
contribute *their time* freely to this project. If you'd like to do the
same then I'm sure that you can find your way to the dev pages. Here,
let me help you:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved

Your comments regarding the developpers (sic) is both incorrect and
offensive. As a 'user' and 'volunteer tester' of SeaMonkey I've no
problem with pointing out issues and/or problems with SM and/or
reporting bugs if the issue is serious enough. In nearly all cases I've
received positive response from the SeaMonkey volunteers (developers).

If you've a problem with SeaMonkey, please feel free to move on to some
other application. Otherwise file a bug report (or point to an existing
bug report), contribute time to the project. Did I miss where you'd
previously filed a bug report? If so I appologize would appreciate it
if you could remind me by supplying the url to the bug report.








So far so god - BUT - when a mail is read - it's normal to change
their status from unread to read.
When an unread message is deleted, it's normal when moving this
message to the trash folder that his status stays an unread - *because*
no read action was performed.


Have you looked at these:
http://screencast.com/t/ZmZhNjZmOWI
http://screencast.com/t/ZmJhYjZkMTM

You can turn these actions on or off just by checking or un-checking.



You are correct that you can turn those actions on or off but that is 
not the subject of this discussion. The fact remains that deleted 
messages moved to trash cannot be moved there as unread no matter what 
is checked in Message Display, Junk Display or any place else in SM2.x

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Re: how to automatically save files?

2010-06-26 Thread Paul

Lee wrote:

SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain
file types - the latest example being
  http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx
where I get

You have chosen to open
whatever.pptx
which is a: Microsoft PowerPoint Presentation
from http://whatever

What should SeaMonkey do with this file?


and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line
is greyed out.
Is there some way for me to manually go in and force all .pptx files
to be saved instead of asking every time I download a .pptx file if I
want to open it with some application?

SeaMonkey 2.0.5 running on Windows Vista

Thanks,
Lee


If that extension is not listed in your helper apps, then add it
there and set it for what ever default you want.
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Re: how to automatically save files?

2010-06-26 Thread Lee
On 6/26/10, Paul p...@main.com wrote:
 Lee wrote:
 SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain
 file types - the latest example being
   http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx
 where I get

 You have chosen to open
 whatever.pptx
 which is a: Microsoft PowerPoint Presentation
 from http://whatever

 What should SeaMonkey do with this file?


 and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line
 is greyed out.
 Is there some way for me to manually go in and force all .pptx files
 to be saved instead of asking every time I download a .pptx file if I
 want to open it with some application?

 SeaMonkey 2.0.5 running on Windows Vista

 Thanks,
 Lee

 If that extension is not listed in your helper apps,

it isn't

 then add it there and set it for what ever default you want.

how?

Edit / Preferences / Browser / Helper Applications
just shows me the existing helper apps.  There's no add, new, or edit
buttons - just ok, cancel  help

Thanks,
Lee
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Re: how to automatically save files?

2010-06-26 Thread Lee
On 6/26/10, Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
 Lee wrote:
 On 6/26/10, Paul p...@main.com wrote:
 Lee wrote:
 SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain
 file types - the latest example being
   http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx
 where I get

 You have chosen to open
 whatever.pptx
 which is a: Microsoft PowerPoint Presentation
 from http://whatever

 What should SeaMonkey do with this file?


 and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line
 is greyed out.
 Is there some way for me to manually go in and force all .pptx files
 to be saved instead of asking every time I download a .pptx file if I
 want to open it with some application?

 SeaMonkey 2.0.5 running on Windows Vista

 Thanks,
 Lee
 If that extension is not listed in your helper apps,

 it isn't

 then add it there and set it for what ever default you want.

 how?

 Edit / Preferences / Browser / Helper Applications
 just shows me the existing helper apps.  There's no add, new, or edit
 buttons - just ok, cancel  help

 Thanks,
 Lee

 SM Preferences/Navigator/Helper Applications - you should see buttons
 for New Type, Edit, and Remove.

I certainly should :)   Unfortunately, no.
Are you using Windows?  The options I have on the top bar are
  File  Edit  View  Go  Bookmarks  Tools  Window  Help
maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a SM Preferences or
Navigator option to click on anywhere..

Thanks,
Lee
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Re: how to automatically save files?

2010-06-26 Thread Paul

Lee wrote:

On 6/26/10, Rufus n...@home.com wrote:

Lee wrote:

On 6/26/10, Paul p...@main.com wrote:

Lee wrote:

SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain
file types - the latest example being
  http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx
where I get

You have chosen to open
whatever.pptx
which is a: Microsoft PowerPoint Presentation
from http://whatever

What should SeaMonkey do with this file?


and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line
is greyed out.
Is there some way for me to manually go in and force all .pptx files
to be saved instead of asking every time I download a .pptx file if I
want to open it with some application?

SeaMonkey 2.0.5 running on Windows Vista

Thanks,
Lee

If that extension is not listed in your helper apps,

it isn't


then add it there and set it for what ever default you want.

how?

Edit / Preferences / Browser / Helper Applications
just shows me the existing helper apps.  There's no add, new, or edit
buttons - just ok, cancel  help

Thanks,
Lee

SM Preferences/Navigator/Helper Applications - you should see buttons
for New Type, Edit, and Remove.


I certainly should :)   Unfortunately, no.
Are you using Windows?  The options I have on the top bar are
  File  Edit  View  Go  Bookmarks  Tools  Window  Help
maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a SM Preferences or
Navigator option to click on anywhere..

Thanks,
Lee


I use old 1117.
Edit/prefs/Navigator/helper apps \ new type \ name it something
\ then extension pptx.  I just tried it and it works for me.
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Re: how to automatically save files?

2010-06-26 Thread Rufus

Lee wrote:

On 6/26/10, Rufus n...@home.com wrote:

Lee wrote:

On 6/26/10, Paul p...@main.com wrote:

Lee wrote:

SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain
file types - the latest example being
  http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx
where I get

You have chosen to open
whatever.pptx
which is a: Microsoft PowerPoint Presentation
from http://whatever

What should SeaMonkey do with this file?


and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line
is greyed out.
Is there some way for me to manually go in and force all .pptx files
to be saved instead of asking every time I download a .pptx file if I
want to open it with some application?

SeaMonkey 2.0.5 running on Windows Vista

Thanks,
Lee

If that extension is not listed in your helper apps,

it isn't


then add it there and set it for what ever default you want.

how?

Edit / Preferences / Browser / Helper Applications
just shows me the existing helper apps.  There's no add, new, or edit
buttons - just ok, cancel  help

Thanks,
Lee

SM Preferences/Navigator/Helper Applications - you should see buttons
for New Type, Edit, and Remove.


I certainly should :)   Unfortunately, no.
Are you using Windows?  The options I have on the top bar are
  File  Edit  View  Go  Bookmarks  Tools  Window  Help
maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a SM Preferences or
Navigator option to click on anywhere..

Thanks,
Lee


No, I'm using a Mac, but the menus have always been the same - you sure 
there's not a Preferences option under Seamonkey?  I have -


Seamonkey  File  Edit  View  Go  Bookmarks  Tools  Window  Help

in my bar.

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Re: how to automatically save files?

2010-06-26 Thread Lee
On 6/27/10, Paul p...@main.com wrote:
 Lee wrote:
 On 6/26/10, Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
 Lee wrote:
 On 6/26/10, Paul p...@main.com wrote:
 Lee wrote:
 SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain
 file types - the latest example being

 http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx
 where I get

 You have chosen to open
 whatever.pptx
 which is a: Microsoft PowerPoint Presentation
 from http://whatever

 What should SeaMonkey do with this file?


 and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line
 is greyed out.
 Is there some way for me to manually go in and force all .pptx files
 to be saved instead of asking every time I download a .pptx file if I
 want to open it with some application?

 SeaMonkey 2.0.5 running on Windows Vista

 Thanks,
 Lee
 If that extension is not listed in your helper apps,
 it isn't

 then add it there and set it for what ever default you want.
 how?

 Edit / Preferences / Browser / Helper Applications
 just shows me the existing helper apps.  There's no add, new, or edit
 buttons - just ok, cancel  help

 Thanks,
 Lee
 SM Preferences/Navigator/Helper Applications - you should see buttons
 for New Type, Edit, and Remove.

 I certainly should :)   Unfortunately, no.
 Are you using Windows?  The options I have on the top bar are
   File  Edit  View  Go  Bookmarks  Tools  Window  Help
 maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a SM Preferences or
 Navigator option to click on anywhere..

 Thanks,
 Lee

 I use old 1117.
 Edit/prefs/Navigator/helper apps \ new type \ name it something
 \ then extension pptx.  I just tried it and it works for me.

*sigh*  Edit / Prefs / Browser / Helper apps and no button for new
type in SM 2.0.5

I don't like Firefox because it gives me less control over what
happens  SM seems to be going in the same direction.   Oh well.. time
to give Opera a try I guess.

Thanks,
Lee
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Re: how to automatically save files?

2010-06-26 Thread Lee
On 6/27/10, Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
 Lee wrote:
 On 6/26/10, Rufus n...@home.com wrote:
 Lee wrote:
 On 6/26/10, Paul p...@main.com wrote:
 Lee wrote:
 SeaMonkey doesn't give me the option to automatically save certain
 file types - the latest example being

 http://www.cacetech.com/sharkfest.09/DT5_Varenni_WinPcapDosDonts.pptx
 where I get

 You have chosen to open
 whatever.pptx
 which is a: Microsoft PowerPoint Presentation
 from http://whatever

 What should SeaMonkey do with this file?


 and the 'Do this automatically for files like this from now on.' line
 is greyed out.
 Is there some way for me to manually go in and force all .pptx files
 to be saved instead of asking every time I download a .pptx file if I
 want to open it with some application?

 SeaMonkey 2.0.5 running on Windows Vista

 Thanks,
 Lee
 If that extension is not listed in your helper apps,
 it isn't

 then add it there and set it for what ever default you want.
 how?

 Edit / Preferences / Browser / Helper Applications
 just shows me the existing helper apps.  There's no add, new, or edit
 buttons - just ok, cancel  help

 Thanks,
 Lee
 SM Preferences/Navigator/Helper Applications - you should see buttons
 for New Type, Edit, and Remove.

 I certainly should :)   Unfortunately, no.
 Are you using Windows?  The options I have on the top bar are
   File  Edit  View  Go  Bookmarks  Tools  Window  Help
 maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see a SM Preferences or
 Navigator option to click on anywhere..

 Thanks,
 Lee

 No, I'm using a Mac, but the menus have always been the same - you sure
 there's not a Preferences option under Seamonkey?  I have -

 Seamonkey  File  Edit  View  Go  Bookmarks  Tools  Window  Help

 in my bar.

There's no Seamonkey anything on my menu bar to click on.  On the
extreme left is the little triangle that does the menu bar show/hide
and then comes the File  Edit  View  options just like you have.

Are you using a 1.x or 2.x version of SeaMonkey?  I thought I used to
be able to add and remove file type extensions at will, but that
functionality seems to not be there any more :(

Regards,
Lee
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