Re: We 9.2 and IE
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Re: We 9.2 and IE
hi i have been having that trouble for ages now it is anoying to me i just use short cut key to restart we. cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: tchild via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:30 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: We 9.2 and IE Hi guys, WE and IE have been working together pretty damn good until just a few days ago. Now seems at thimes WE as I am using the up or down arrow to read a webpage will just go silent, then after acouple of minutes and me hitting the up or down arrow a few time it will start talking again. It just started this a few days ago. I”"’m using WE 9.2 windows 8.1 and IE 11. Any one got any ideas... ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
We 9.2 and IE
Hi guys, WE and IE have been working together pretty damn good until just a few days ago. Now seems at thimes WE as I am using the up or down arrow to read a webpage will just go silent, then after acouple of minutes and me hitting the up or down arrow a few time it will start talking again. It just started this a few days ago. I”"’m using WE 9.2 windows 8.1 and IE 11. Any one got any ideas... ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi: You can make the power button do that in Windows 7 as well. Just got the control panel, go into power options and, in that dialog, tab to "choose what the power buttons do" and press the enter key. Kevin Huber On 9/8/15, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: > Maybe everyone knows this, but with computers later than Windows-7, you > can tap the button on your computer to safely shut down. You no longer > need the keyboard or mouse to safely shut down. > > On 9/8/2015 8:03 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: >> Hi: Same here. >> I have found that sometimes it pays to move very slowly through a page >> and >> especially be careful if you are getting slow results and try a WE search >> for something. I have had WE go dead as a dornail many times when trying >> to >> perform a search. >> This even usually locks up the keyboard as well but firing up narrator >> will >> usually give me just enough to get WE working so I can REBoot without >> pushing the computer hard button. >> Also, hitting the WE Restart keys will sometimes, if the keyboard is >> still >> available, bring WE back but then there are often features of WE that >> don't >> work or some that seemingly start working that wernt working before the >> crash and I have to do a soft ReBoot, if I can get back to the Desktop >> via >> narrator, to get WE back to working as it does prior to a lockup. >> This indicates to me 2 possible areas of interest. >> Any scripts that are related to the browser could be not executing their >> searches fast enough like reading the dom as it is dynamically updated and >> 2 >> perhaps flash advertising or info items that are constantly starting and >> stopping automatically may be causing problems or a combination of the 2 >> or >> something totally diferent. >> It should be fixable since another mainline screen reader will work fine >> even after WE has locked up if I can get to it via narrator. >> I too am looking forward to a new release, guess this last upgrade didn't >> get it right yet, where at least one of the browsers work much better and >> with no lockups with WindowEyes so these speech outages are eliminated - >> no >> lockups is the primary goal here me thinks. >> Perhaps the AI Squared staff is slogging through what they can do with >> the >> new Edge browser, UIA or the DOM and all that rather complicated set of >> technicals - fingers crossed they figure it out sooner rather than later. >> Rick USA >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On >> Behalf Of via Talk >> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 4:36 PM >> To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> >> Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 >> >> Hi don, >> >> Yes, there are a number of WE users that are experiencing the Speech >> going silent, sometimes to return, and sometimes to never return until >> the system is re booted. >> >> I have done everything suggested, and so far, I still have issues, >> especially if I attempt to move faster through a Web Page than WE can >> deal with. >> >> I think it was Chris who suggested I make sure I.E. 11 is handling HTML >> 5, and since I have done this, my own troubles have diminished, and WE >> seems to be more forgiving than before. >> >> I have also started using the "Insert Tab" combo to have WE list the >> Links on a Web Page. This helps a great deal when moving around on >> Youtube.If I use the "Insert Tab" combo, I rarely have Speech go >> away, and I can move up and down the list of links as quickly as my >> fingers like. >> >> The only problem, is that reading only Links does not always give you >> the info you need. >> >> I still have huge Headaches when attempting to use Ebay.In fact, I >> have stopped visiting Ebay, because WE, on my machine, just struggles to >> keep speaking, and to accurately read the page. >> >> I am using 9.1, and just waiting for a version of WE that has fixed >> these problems. >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. >> rr.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List ar
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Maybe everyone knows this, but with computers later than Windows-7, you can tap the button on your computer to safely shut down. You no longer need the keyboard or mouse to safely shut down. On 9/8/2015 8:03 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: Hi: Same here. I have found that sometimes it pays to move very slowly through a page and especially be careful if you are getting slow results and try a WE search for something. I have had WE go dead as a dornail many times when trying to perform a search. This even usually locks up the keyboard as well but firing up narrator will usually give me just enough to get WE working so I can REBoot without pushing the computer hard button. Also, hitting the WE Restart keys will sometimes, if the keyboard is still available, bring WE back but then there are often features of WE that don't work or some that seemingly start working that wernt working before the crash and I have to do a soft ReBoot, if I can get back to the Desktop via narrator, to get WE back to working as it does prior to a lockup. This indicates to me 2 possible areas of interest. Any scripts that are related to the browser could be not executing their searches fast enough like reading the dom as it is dynamically updated and 2 perhaps flash advertising or info items that are constantly starting and stopping automatically may be causing problems or a combination of the 2 or something totally diferent. It should be fixable since another mainline screen reader will work fine even after WE has locked up if I can get to it via narrator. I too am looking forward to a new release, guess this last upgrade didn't get it right yet, where at least one of the browsers work much better and with no lockups with WindowEyes so these speech outages are eliminated - no lockups is the primary goal here me thinks. Perhaps the AI Squared staff is slogging through what they can do with the new Edge browser, UIA or the DOM and all that rather complicated set of technicals - fingers crossed they figure it out sooner rather than later. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 4:36 PM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Hi don, Yes, there are a number of WE users that are experiencing the Speech going silent, sometimes to return, and sometimes to never return until the system is re booted. I have done everything suggested, and so far, I still have issues, especially if I attempt to move faster through a Web Page than WE can deal with. I think it was Chris who suggested I make sure I.E. 11 is handling HTML 5, and since I have done this, my own troubles have diminished, and WE seems to be more forgiving than before. I have also started using the "Insert Tab" combo to have WE list the Links on a Web Page. This helps a great deal when moving around on Youtube.If I use the "Insert Tab" combo, I rarely have Speech go away, and I can move up and down the list of links as quickly as my fingers like. The only problem, is that reading only Links does not always give you the info you need. I still have huge Headaches when attempting to use Ebay.In fact, I have stopped visiting Ebay, because WE, on my machine, just struggles to keep speaking, and to accurately read the page. I am using 9.1, and just waiting for a version of WE that has fixed these problems. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi: Yes. Often I can exit using narrator and then ReBoot the computer. I have tested JAWS on the same browser page while WE was totally locked up, well it would allow me to use the keyboard after firing up narrator, and JAWS seemed to read the page fine while WE was still dead. Sometimes, perhaps 1 out of 4 or 5 times firing up narrator or jaws will bring WindowEyes back to life but usually with some of the WindowEyes hot keys like read to end and others not working. ReStarting WindowEyes will not bring these features back but a complete ReBoot of the computer via the soft ReStart or actually pushing the computers power button will bring WindowEyes back to its normal operational state. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Elizabeth [mailto:thot...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 8:22 AM To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11 In such cases, are you able to use an alternate screen reader such as NVDA? At 08:03 AM 9/8/2015, you wrote: >Hi: Same here. >I have found that sometimes it pays to move very slowly through a page and >especially be careful if you are getting slow results and try a WE search >for something. I have had WE go dead as a dornail many times when trying to >perform a search. >This even usually locks up the keyboard as well but firing up narrator will >usually give me just enough to get WE working so I can REBoot without >pushing the computer hard button. >Also, hitting the WE Restart keys will sometimes, if the keyboard is still >available, bring WE back but then there are often features of WE that don't >work or some that seemingly start working that wernt working before the >crash and I have to do a soft ReBoot, if I can get back to the Desktop via >narrator, to get WE back to working as it does prior to a lockup. >This indicates to me 2 possible areas of interest. >Any scripts that are related to the browser could be not executing their >searches fast enough like reading the dom as it is dynamically updated and 2 >perhaps flash advertising or info items that are constantly starting and >stopping automatically may be causing problems or a combination of the 2 or >something totally diferent. >It should be fixable since another mainline screen reader will work fine >even after WE has locked up if I can get to it via narrator. >I too am looking forward to a new release, guess this last upgrade didn't >get it right yet, where at least one of the browsers work much better and >with no lockups with WindowEyes so these speech outages are eliminated - no >lockups is the primary goal here me thinks. >Perhaps the AI Squared staff is slogging through what they can do with the >new Edge browser, UIA or the DOM and all that rather complicated set of >technicals - fingers crossed they figure it out sooner rather than later. >Rick USA > >-Original Message- >From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On >Behalf Of via Talk >Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 4:36 PM >To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > >Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > >Hi don, > >Yes, there are a number of WE users that are experiencing the Speech >going silent, sometimes to return, and sometimes to never return until >the system is re booted. > >I have done everything suggested, and so far, I still have issues, >especially if I attempt to move faster through a Web Page than WE can >deal with. > >I think it was Chris who suggested I make sure I.E. 11 is handling HTML >5, and since I have done this, my own troubles have diminished, and WE >seems to be more forgiving than before. > >I have also started using the "Insert Tab" combo to have WE list the >Links on a Web Page. This helps a great deal when moving around on >Youtube.If I use the "Insert Tab" combo, I rarely have Speech go >away, and I can move up and down the list of links as quickly as my >fingers like. > >The only problem, is that reading only Links does not always give you >the info you need. > >I still have huge Headaches when attempting to use Ebay.In fact, I >have stopped visiting Ebay, because WE, on my machine, just struggles to >keep speaking, and to accurately read the page. > >I am using 9.1, and just waiting for a version of WE that has fixed > these problems. > > >___ >Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >For membership options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi . >rr.com. >For subscription options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >List archives can be found a
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hey, folks. You know how when you use the run dialog, Windows remembers the name of the last program you entered? Chris Grabowsky had told the list that WE can be started by pressing Windows-R then typing wineyes and hitting enter. My crashes tend to occur in IE eleven and practically always stuns Window-Eyes to silence and the WE hot key to restart is also disabled or locked up in the tangle. I tried the WE startup using the run dialog one time and it worked. It forced IE to close down as well, which is kind of wierd, but I got speech back without going through too many conrortions. I'd say the alternate method of using the run dialog is about 60 to 70% effective. Enough to keep in mind for sure. --Lou N. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 8:41 AM To: Elizabeth; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 yes, sometimes I can use NVDA. Sometimes I start NVDA when WE goes silent. I would rather use WE, as it is a much fuller featured program, than NVDA. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/fenderwal%40sb cglobal.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
yes, sometimes I can use NVDA. Sometimes I start NVDA when WE goes silent. I would rather use WE, as it is a much fuller featured program, than NVDA. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
In such cases, are you able to use an alternate screen reader such as NVDA? At 08:03 AM 9/8/2015, you wrote: Hi: Same here. I have found that sometimes it pays to move very slowly through a page and especially be careful if you are getting slow results and try a WE search for something. I have had WE go dead as a dornail many times when trying to perform a search. This even usually locks up the keyboard as well but firing up narrator will usually give me just enough to get WE working so I can REBoot without pushing the computer hard button. Also, hitting the WE Restart keys will sometimes, if the keyboard is still available, bring WE back but then there are often features of WE that don't work or some that seemingly start working that wernt working before the crash and I have to do a soft ReBoot, if I can get back to the Desktop via narrator, to get WE back to working as it does prior to a lockup. This indicates to me 2 possible areas of interest. Any scripts that are related to the browser could be not executing their searches fast enough like reading the dom as it is dynamically updated and 2 perhaps flash advertising or info items that are constantly starting and stopping automatically may be causing problems or a combination of the 2 or something totally diferent. It should be fixable since another mainline screen reader will work fine even after WE has locked up if I can get to it via narrator. I too am looking forward to a new release, guess this last upgrade didn't get it right yet, where at least one of the browsers work much better and with no lockups with WindowEyes so these speech outages are eliminated - no lockups is the primary goal here me thinks. Perhaps the AI Squared staff is slogging through what they can do with the new Edge browser, UIA or the DOM and all that rather complicated set of technicals - fingers crossed they figure it out sooner rather than later. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 4:36 PM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Hi don, Yes, there are a number of WE users that are experiencing the Speech going silent, sometimes to return, and sometimes to never return until the system is re booted. I have done everything suggested, and so far, I still have issues, especially if I attempt to move faster through a Web Page than WE can deal with. I think it was Chris who suggested I make sure I.E. 11 is handling HTML 5, and since I have done this, my own troubles have diminished, and WE seems to be more forgiving than before. I have also started using the "Insert Tab" combo to have WE list the Links on a Web Page. This helps a great deal when moving around on Youtube.If I use the "Insert Tab" combo, I rarely have Speech go away, and I can move up and down the list of links as quickly as my fingers like. The only problem, is that reading only Links does not always give you the info you need. I still have huge Headaches when attempting to use Ebay.In fact, I have stopped visiting Ebay, because WE, on my machine, just struggles to keep speaking, and to accurately read the page. I am using 9.1, and just waiting for a version of WE that has fixed these problems. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thoth93%40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi: Same here. I have found that sometimes it pays to move very slowly through a page and especially be careful if you are getting slow results and try a WE search for something. I have had WE go dead as a dornail many times when trying to perform a search. This even usually locks up the keyboard as well but firing up narrator will usually give me just enough to get WE working so I can REBoot without pushing the computer hard button. Also, hitting the WE Restart keys will sometimes, if the keyboard is still available, bring WE back but then there are often features of WE that don't work or some that seemingly start working that wernt working before the crash and I have to do a soft ReBoot, if I can get back to the Desktop via narrator, to get WE back to working as it does prior to a lockup. This indicates to me 2 possible areas of interest. Any scripts that are related to the browser could be not executing their searches fast enough like reading the dom as it is dynamically updated and 2 perhaps flash advertising or info items that are constantly starting and stopping automatically may be causing problems or a combination of the 2 or something totally diferent. It should be fixable since another mainline screen reader will work fine even after WE has locked up if I can get to it via narrator. I too am looking forward to a new release, guess this last upgrade didn't get it right yet, where at least one of the browsers work much better and with no lockups with WindowEyes so these speech outages are eliminated - no lockups is the primary goal here me thinks. Perhaps the AI Squared staff is slogging through what they can do with the new Edge browser, UIA or the DOM and all that rather complicated set of technicals - fingers crossed they figure it out sooner rather than later. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 4:36 PM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Hi don, Yes, there are a number of WE users that are experiencing the Speech going silent, sometimes to return, and sometimes to never return until the system is re booted. I have done everything suggested, and so far, I still have issues, especially if I attempt to move faster through a Web Page than WE can deal with. I think it was Chris who suggested I make sure I.E. 11 is handling HTML 5, and since I have done this, my own troubles have diminished, and WE seems to be more forgiving than before. I have also started using the "Insert Tab" combo to have WE list the Links on a Web Page. This helps a great deal when moving around on Youtube.If I use the "Insert Tab" combo, I rarely have Speech go away, and I can move up and down the list of links as quickly as my fingers like. The only problem, is that reading only Links does not always give you the info you need. I still have huge Headaches when attempting to use Ebay.In fact, I have stopped visiting Ebay, because WE, on my machine, just struggles to keep speaking, and to accurately read the page. I am using 9.1, and just waiting for a version of WE that has fixed these problems. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Sometimes, turning browse mode off makes navagating links a lot faster. On 9/7/2015 4:35 PM, via Talk wrote: Hi don, Yes, there are a number of WE users that are experiencing the Speech going silent, sometimes to return, and sometimes to never return until the system is re booted. I have done everything suggested, and so far, I still have issues, especially if I attempt to move faster through a Web Page than WE can deal with. I think it was Chris who suggested I make sure I.E. 11 is handling HTML 5, and since I have done this, my own troubles have diminished, and WE seems to be more forgiving than before. I have also started using the "Insert Tab" combo to have WE list the Links on a Web Page. This helps a great deal when moving around on Youtube.If I use the "Insert Tab" combo, I rarely have Speech go away, and I can move up and down the list of links as quickly as my fingers like. The only problem, is that reading only Links does not always give you the info you need. I still have huge Headaches when attempting to use Ebay.In fact, I have stopped visiting Ebay, because WE, on my machine, just struggles to keep speaking, and to accurately read the page. I am using 9.1, and just waiting for a version of WE that has fixed these problems. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi don, Yes, there are a number of WE users that are experiencing the Speech going silent, sometimes to return, and sometimes to never return until the system is re booted. I have done everything suggested, and so far, I still have issues, especially if I attempt to move faster through a Web Page than WE can deal with. I think it was Chris who suggested I make sure I.E. 11 is handling HTML 5, and since I have done this, my own troubles have diminished, and WE seems to be more forgiving than before. I have also started using the "Insert Tab" combo to have WE list the Links on a Web Page. This helps a great deal when moving around on Youtube.If I use the "Insert Tab" combo, I rarely have Speech go away, and I can move up and down the list of links as quickly as my fingers like. The only problem, is that reading only Links does not always give you the info you need. I still have huge Headaches when attempting to use Ebay.In fact, I have stopped visiting Ebay, because WE, on my machine, just struggles to keep speaking, and to accurately read the page. I am using 9.1, and just waiting for a version of WE that has fixed these problems. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
There have been numerous issues with WE 9.2 and IE 11 in all Windows versions from 7 to 10. A lister suggested having WE read nothing after starting a web page rather than 24 lines or the entire page. I tried this,and it has helped some but I think not enough. I did notice that one page I accessed was trying to play a video, but coudn't. Sorry I can't be of more help. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 8:22 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 10 64 bit machine and IE 11. On a very consistent basis I will be on a random web page using the down arrow key to read the page and WE will stop speaking. after about a 30 second wait speech comes back. Is this a known issue? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE 9.2 and IE 11
Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 10 64 bit machine and IE 11. On a very consistent basis I will be on a random web page using the down arrow key to read the page and WE will stop speaking. after about a 30 second wait speech comes back. Is this a known issue? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi Joseph, I did not have the opportunity to use window-eyes 9.2 with windows 7 64bit pro so can't comment whether or not circumstances would have been similar. My issues started after the update to windows 10, but still really love windows 10 in spite of window-eyes idiosyncrasies. -- Curtis Delzer On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:42:18 -0500 Jo Taliaferro via Talk wrote: > Well, I'm not having problems with WE 9.2 and IE 11 latest updates so I find > myself wondering what I'm doing right! I have everything set to the > defaults in IE 11 and use Windows 7 64-bit machine. Maybe we should go from > what's right instead of what's wrong! I'm not denying problems others are > having, just puzzled. I'm not bragging, either, just finding very few times > when IE says it's not working. > > Jo Taliaferro > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+soaringeagle7=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:09 AM > To: net bat; Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > Wow! I never knew about that keystroke for quickly starting task manager. > > > > Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. > -Original Message- > From: net bat via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:49 PM > To: Tom Fairhurst ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > if you know which program it is open the task manager with shift control > escape and end task on the program then you won't have to reboot every time. > > -Original Message----- > From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:04 PM > To: Curtis Delzer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > I might add to this that for me, I am not able to start narrator or any > other program to help. Even if I am successful in getting Window-Eyes back, > the other offending program may remain stuck or otherwise not work properly. > Often, I must hit the power button for a reboot. > > -Original Message- > From: Curtis Delzer via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:32 PM > To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > that is the issue, again and again, when a program has stopped working, > Window-eyes also "stops" working when the computer is still working! > THAT is the issue, though IE or any other program stops, Window-eyes has to > be hearty enough or however or whatever it takes in resources, to make us > competitive with other screen observers that say "X, program has stopped > working . . ." Then, we can properly interact. > Issues with that program stealing focus away have to be dealt with as well > since if we are writing a message, or a book, or . . . and X program > crashes, the issues where Window-eyes becomes unable to talk are like "we're > going blind again" without any access at all. > -- > Curtis Delzer > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:58:57 -0400 > Loy via Talk wrote: > > > I am one that is not having the problem to the extent that some are. I > > have some sight and some times when this happens there is a message > > that IE has stopped working, so it may not be just a WE problem. I > > wonder if JAWS or NVDA users are having any of these problems? I am > > sure that AISquared is working hard to find a solution. > > - Original Message - From: "via Talk" > > > > To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" > > > > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM > > Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > > > > > > If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has > > > been a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the > > > story they can not say over the phone. After all, management might > > > be listening, and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. > > > > > > Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between > > > those systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, > > > and the systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web > > > finished without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. > > > > > > I asked this question to those who had those systems that were > > > having no issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my > > > question to those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. > > > > > > To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping > > > out, or
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Well, I'm not having problems with WE 9.2 and IE 11 latest updates so I find myself wondering what I'm doing right! I have everything set to the defaults in IE 11 and use Windows 7 64-bit machine. Maybe we should go from what's right instead of what's wrong! I'm not denying problems others are having, just puzzled. I'm not bragging, either, just finding very few times when IE says it's not working. Jo Taliaferro -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+soaringeagle7=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:09 AM To: net bat; Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Wow! I never knew about that keystroke for quickly starting task manager. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:49 PM To: Tom Fairhurst ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 if you know which program it is open the task manager with shift control escape and end task on the program then you won't have to reboot every time. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:04 PM To: Curtis Delzer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I might add to this that for me, I am not able to start narrator or any other program to help. Even if I am successful in getting Window-Eyes back, the other offending program may remain stuck or otherwise not work properly. Often, I must hit the power button for a reboot. -Original Message- From: Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:32 PM To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 that is the issue, again and again, when a program has stopped working, Window-eyes also "stops" working when the computer is still working! THAT is the issue, though IE or any other program stops, Window-eyes has to be hearty enough or however or whatever it takes in resources, to make us competitive with other screen observers that say "X, program has stopped working . . ." Then, we can properly interact. Issues with that program stealing focus away have to be dealt with as well since if we are writing a message, or a book, or . . . and X program crashes, the issues where Window-eyes becomes unable to talk are like "we're going blind again" without any access at all. -- Curtis Delzer On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:58:57 -0400 Loy via Talk wrote: > I am one that is not having the problem to the extent that some are. I > have some sight and some times when this happens there is a message > that IE has stopped working, so it may not be just a WE problem. I > wonder if JAWS or NVDA users are having any of these problems? I am > sure that AISquared is working hard to find a solution. > - Original Message - From: "via Talk" > > To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" > > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM > Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > > > If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has > > been a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the > > story they can not say over the phone. After all, management might > > be listening, and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. > > > > Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between > > those systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, > > and the systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web > > finished without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. > > > > I asked this question to those who had those systems that were > > having no issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my > > question to those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. > > > > To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping > > out, or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your > > computer have a Dedicated Sound card in the system? > > > > Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is > > plugged into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother > > board from the Mother board manufacturer. > > > > > > This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the > > built in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were > > part of the Mother board. > > > > How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having > > the system freeze. > > > > > > > > -- > Dave > > > > ___ > > Any views or opinions presented in this emai
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Wow! I never knew about that keystroke for quickly starting task manager. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:49 PM To: Tom Fairhurst ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 if you know which program it is open the task manager with shift control escape and end task on the program then you won't have to reboot every time. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:04 PM To: Curtis Delzer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I might add to this that for me, I am not able to start narrator or any other program to help. Even if I am successful in getting Window-Eyes back, the other offending program may remain stuck or otherwise not work properly. Often, I must hit the power button for a reboot. -Original Message- From: Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:32 PM To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 that is the issue, again and again, when a program has stopped working, Window-eyes also "stops" working when the computer is still working! THAT is the issue, though IE or any other program stops, Window-eyes has to be hearty enough or however or whatever it takes in resources, to make us competitive with other screen observers that say "X, program has stopped working . . ." Then, we can properly interact. Issues with that program stealing focus away have to be dealt with as well since if we are writing a message, or a book, or . . . and X program crashes, the issues where Window-eyes becomes unable to talk are like "we're going blind again" without any access at all. -- Curtis Delzer On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:58:57 -0400 Loy via Talk wrote: I am one that is not having the problem to the extent that some are. I have some sight and some times when this happens there is a message that IE has stopped working, so it may not be just a WE problem. I wonder if JAWS or NVDA users are having any of these problems? I am sure that AISquared is working hard to find a solution. - Original Message - From: "via Talk" To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been > a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they > can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, > and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. > > Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those > systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the > systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished > without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. > > I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no > issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to > those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. > > To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, > or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have > a Dedicated Sound card in the system? > > Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged > into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from > the Mother board manufacturer. > > > This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built > in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the > Mother board. > > How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the > system freeze. > > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
when it crashes end task on the plug in container. not firefox. this is the flash player program. after you close the task manager press f5 to reload the page, which will also start the flash player too. *** if you use the html5 player on the youtube page instead of the adobe flash player it won't crash. i installed this from the youtube web page when it told me it was availible. -Original Message- From: Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:08 PM To: Tom Fairhurst ; Curtis Delzer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I've found that in most cases I'm able to start NVDA which at least enables me to start Task Manager and close the nonresponsive program. Of course this in no way makes the problem any less annoying. I find I usually have to do this with YouTube, which I usually use with Firefox because of Addblock Plus. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:04 PM To: Curtis Delzer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I might add to this that for me, I am not able to start narrator or any other program to help. Even if I am successful in getting Window-Eyes back, the other offending program may remain stuck or otherwise not work properly. Often, I must hit the power button for a reboot. -Original Message- From: Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:32 PM To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 that is the issue, again and again, when a program has stopped working, Window-eyes also "stops" working when the computer is still working! THAT is the issue, though IE or any other program stops, Window-eyes has to be hearty enough or however or whatever it takes in resources, to make us competitive with other screen observers that say "X, program has stopped working . . ." Then, we can properly interact. Issues with that program stealing focus away have to be dealt with as well since if we are writing a message, or a book, or . . . and X program crashes, the issues where Window-eyes becomes unable to talk are like "we're going blind again" without any access at all. -- Curtis Delzer On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:58:57 -0400 Loy via Talk wrote: I am one that is not having the problem to the extent that some are. I have some sight and some times when this happens there is a message that IE has stopped working, so it may not be just a WE problem. I wonder if JAWS or NVDA users are having any of these problems? I am sure that AISquared is working hard to find a solution. - Original Message - From: "via Talk" To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been > a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they > can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, > and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. > > Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those > systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the > systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished > without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. > > I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no > issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to > those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. > > To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, > or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have > a Dedicated Sound card in the system? > > Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged > into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from > the Mother board manufacturer. > > > This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built > in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the > Mother board. > > How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the > system freeze. > > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
if you know which program it is open the task manager with shift control escape and end task on the program then you won't have to reboot every time. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:04 PM To: Curtis Delzer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I might add to this that for me, I am not able to start narrator or any other program to help. Even if I am successful in getting Window-Eyes back, the other offending program may remain stuck or otherwise not work properly. Often, I must hit the power button for a reboot. -Original Message- From: Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:32 PM To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 that is the issue, again and again, when a program has stopped working, Window-eyes also "stops" working when the computer is still working! THAT is the issue, though IE or any other program stops, Window-eyes has to be hearty enough or however or whatever it takes in resources, to make us competitive with other screen observers that say "X, program has stopped working . . ." Then, we can properly interact. Issues with that program stealing focus away have to be dealt with as well since if we are writing a message, or a book, or . . . and X program crashes, the issues where Window-eyes becomes unable to talk are like "we're going blind again" without any access at all. -- Curtis Delzer On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:58:57 -0400 Loy via Talk wrote: I am one that is not having the problem to the extent that some are. I have some sight and some times when this happens there is a message that IE has stopped working, so it may not be just a WE problem. I wonder if JAWS or NVDA users are having any of these problems? I am sure that AISquared is working hard to find a solution. - Original Message - From: "via Talk" To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been > a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they > can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, > and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. > > Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those > systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the > systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished > without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. > > I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no > issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to > those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. > > To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, > or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have > a Dedicated Sound card in the system? > > Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged > into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from > the Mother board manufacturer. > > > This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built > in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the > Mother board. > > How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the > system freeze. > > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visi
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I've found that in most cases I'm able to start NVDA which at least enables me to start Task Manager and close the nonresponsive program. Of course this in no way makes the problem any less annoying. I find I usually have to do this with YouTube, which I usually use with Firefox because of Addblock Plus. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:04 PM To: Curtis Delzer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I might add to this that for me, I am not able to start narrator or any other program to help. Even if I am successful in getting Window-Eyes back, the other offending program may remain stuck or otherwise not work properly. Often, I must hit the power button for a reboot. -Original Message- From: Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:32 PM To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 that is the issue, again and again, when a program has stopped working, Window-eyes also "stops" working when the computer is still working! THAT is the issue, though IE or any other program stops, Window-eyes has to be hearty enough or however or whatever it takes in resources, to make us competitive with other screen observers that say "X, program has stopped working . . ." Then, we can properly interact. Issues with that program stealing focus away have to be dealt with as well since if we are writing a message, or a book, or . . . and X program crashes, the issues where Window-eyes becomes unable to talk are like "we're going blind again" without any access at all. -- Curtis Delzer On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:58:57 -0400 Loy via Talk wrote: I am one that is not having the problem to the extent that some are. I have some sight and some times when this happens there is a message that IE has stopped working, so it may not be just a WE problem. I wonder if JAWS or NVDA users are having any of these problems? I am sure that AISquared is working hard to find a solution. - Original Message - From: "via Talk" To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been > a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they > can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, > and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. > > Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those > systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the > systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished > without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. > > I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no > issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to > those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. > > To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, > or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have > a Dedicated Sound card in the system? > > Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged > into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from > the Mother board manufacturer. > > > This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built > in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the > Mother board. > > How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the > system freeze. > > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of t
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I might add to this that for me, I am not able to start narrator or any other program to help. Even if I am successful in getting Window-Eyes back, the other offending program may remain stuck or otherwise not work properly. Often, I must hit the power button for a reboot. -Original Message- From: Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 3:32 PM To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 that is the issue, again and again, when a program has stopped working, Window-eyes also "stops" working when the computer is still working! THAT is the issue, though IE or any other program stops, Window-eyes has to be hearty enough or however or whatever it takes in resources, to make us competitive with other screen observers that say "X, program has stopped working . . ." Then, we can properly interact. Issues with that program stealing focus away have to be dealt with as well since if we are writing a message, or a book, or . . . and X program crashes, the issues where Window-eyes becomes unable to talk are like "we're going blind again" without any access at all. -- Curtis Delzer On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:58:57 -0400 Loy via Talk wrote: I am one that is not having the problem to the extent that some are. I have some sight and some times when this happens there is a message that IE has stopped working, so it may not be just a WE problem. I wonder if JAWS or NVDA users are having any of these problems? I am sure that AISquared is working hard to find a solution. - Original Message - From: "via Talk" To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been > a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they > can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, > and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. > > Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those > systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the > systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished > without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. > > I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no > issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to > those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. > > To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, > or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have > a Dedicated Sound card in the system? > > Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged > into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from > the Mother board manufacturer. > > > This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built > in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the > Mother board. > > How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the > system freeze. > > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those o
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
that is the issue, again and again, when a program has stopped working, Window-eyes also "stops" working when the computer is still working! THAT is the issue, though IE or any other program stops, Window-eyes has to be hearty enough or however or whatever it takes in resources, to make us competitive with other screen observers that say "X, program has stopped working . . ." Then, we can properly interact. Issues with that program stealing focus away have to be dealt with as well since if we are writing a message, or a book, or . . . and X program crashes, the issues where Window-eyes becomes unable to talk are like "we're going blind again" without any access at all. -- Curtis Delzer On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:58:57 -0400 Loy via Talk wrote: > I am one that is not having the problem to the extent that some are. I have > some sight and some times when this happens there is a message that IE has > stopped working, so it may not be just a WE problem. I wonder if JAWS or NVDA > users are having any of these problems? I am sure that AISquared is working > hard to find a solution. > - Original Message - From: "via Talk" > To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" > > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM > Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > > > If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been > > a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they > > can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, > > and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. > > > > Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those > > systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the > > systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished > > without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. > > > > I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no > > issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to > > those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. > > > > To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, > > or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have > > a Dedicated Sound card in the system? > > > > Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged > > into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from > > the Mother board manufacturer. > > > > > > This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built > > in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the > > Mother board. > > > > How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the > > system freeze. > > > > > > > > -- > Dave > > > > ___ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. > > For subscription options, visit > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
My issues are not with my Becky! mail email program at all, not a single lockup or issue. IE11 with Window-eyes 9.2 and my windows 10 professional 64 bit, 8 gigs ram, (Intel processor) built-in sound with Motherboard system, that's another issue. I described all of my symptoms a couple days ago. -- Curtis Delzer On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:47:47 -0700 via Talk wrote: > If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been > a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they > can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, > and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. > > Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those > systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the > systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished > without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. > > I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no > issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to > those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. > > To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, > or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have > a Dedicated Sound card in the system? > > Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged > into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from > the Mother board manufacturer. > > > This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built > in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the > Mother board. > > How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the > system freeze. > > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I will try this. Maybe WE is trying too many things during the initial loading of web pages -- Curtis Delzer On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:04:01 + Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote: > Hi, > What happens if you go to verbosity/browse mode/new page information 1 and > set auto read to do nothing instead of reading the first 24 lines\? > > Chris > > > Window-Eyes Product Support > Ai Squared > 725 Airport North Office Park > Fort Wayne, IN 46825 > (802) 362-3612 > www.aisquared.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Ennis Killip via Talk > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 10:49 AM > To: dlh...@centurylink.net; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > > Subject: RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > Hi, I am experiencing exactly the same difficulties and am concerned I am not > doing my computer any good by doing hard restarts constantly. I also have > the problem that WE will not always allow me to open combi boxes. > > Ennis. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ennis.killip=sky@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of via Talk > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:06 PM > To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > I too continue to experience repeated crashes and Speech going away. > using the Short Cut to re start WE rarely works. Almost always, I need to do > a hard Re start. > > I have attempted to clean up old Set files, but so far, this has not reduced > the rate of failure. > > On my system, it does seem as if I type too fast, I can cause WE to go quiet. > If I wait 20, 30, 60 seconds, sometimes speech will return on its own. > > I do not have the Keyboard speaking characters or words. > > > Am using Win 7 64 bit, and Word 2010, as well as I.E. 11. > > Navigating some web sites is very difficult. I am starting to use some of > the short cuts, which makes a little difference, but using just the arrow > keys to move around, does not always work as in previous editions of Window > eyes. > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ennis.killip%4 > 0sky.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I have experienced the same issues using both JAWS and WE so at least in some instances, it does not appear to be a screen reader issue. Perhaps it could be settings in IE that need to be changed, or just the way that the page is coded. I do know that sometimes changing from IE to Firefox seems to fix some of these issues, i. e. making links work, and opening edit boxes and combo boxes. Andy -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rathburn via Talk Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:07 PM To: dlh...@centurylink.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Hi, I'm running WE 9.2 and Windows 7 HP 64-bit on a 6-year old Acer laptop with only 2 Gigs of ram. It has a ATI Radian HD3200 graphics and Realtech HD sound card built-in and I'm not experiencing the constant crashes that others are reporting. My biggest complaaint about I.E. 11 is encountering links that can't be opened, buttons that can't be clicked, combo boxes that can't be activated and so on. I am particularly disappointed that the Walmart.com web site is almost impossible to use any more. In the past, I've ordered from Walmart.com every 6 to 8 weeks. The orders consisted of non-perishible food, household items and personal products at very competitive prices. I was unable to complete a questionaire on line in preparation for a doctor's appointment because links wouldn't open and edit boxes wouldn't accept text. These type of issues directly affect my ability to function independently as a blind person. I know that a screenreader can't overcome a poorly designed web site but I can empathize with those that feel that accessibility in general is not as good as it should be nowadays. I will continue to use WE and hope that future releases will address some of these issues. Respectively, Dan -- From: "via Talk" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has > been a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story > they can not say over the phone. After all, management might be > listening, and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. > > Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those > systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the > systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished > without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. > > I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having > no issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to > those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. > > To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping > out, or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your > computer have a Dedicated Sound card in the system? > > Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged > into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board > from the Mother board manufacturer. > > > This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built > in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of > the Mother board. > > How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having > the system freeze. > > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rathburnda nny%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/andrew.bar acco%40va.gov. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I do sometimes get the message that IE has stopped working. -Original Message- From: Loy via Talk Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 9:58 PM To: dlh...@centurylink.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I am one that is not having the problem to the extent that some are. I have some sight and some times when this happens there is a message that IE has stopped working, so it may not be just a WE problem. I wonder if JAWS or NVDA users are having any of these problems? I am sure that AISquared is working hard to find a solution. - Original Message - From: "via Talk" To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have a Dedicated Sound card in the system? Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from the Mother board manufacturer. This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the Mother board. How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the system freeze. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I am using a SoundBlaster Live sound card -Original Message- From: via Talk Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:47 PM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have a Dedicated Sound card in the system? Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from the Mother board manufacturer. This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the Mother board. How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the system freeze. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi Dan, May I suggest trying Firefox? Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rathburn via Talk Sent: August 24, 2015 10:07 PM To: dlh...@centurylink.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Hi, I'm running WE 9.2 and Windows 7 HP 64-bit on a 6-year old Acer laptop with only 2 Gigs of ram. It has a ATI Radian HD3200 graphics and Realtech HD sound card built-in and I'm not experiencing the constant crashes that others are reporting. My biggest complaaint about I.E. 11 is encountering links that can't be opened, buttons that can't be clicked, combo boxes that can't be activated and so on. I am particularly disappointed that the Walmart.com web site is almost impossible to use any more. In the past, I've ordered from Walmart.com every 6 to 8 weeks. The orders consisted of non-perishible food, household items and personal products at very competitive prices. I was unable to complete a questionaire on line in preparation for a doctor's appointment because links wouldn't open and edit boxes wouldn't accept text. These type of issues directly affect my ability to function independently as a blind person. I know that a screenreader can't overcome a poorly designed web site but I can empathize with those that feel that accessibility in general is not as good as it should be nowadays. I will continue to use WE and hope that future releases will address some of these issues. Respectively, Dan -- From: "via Talk" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been > a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they > can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, > and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. > > Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those > systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the > systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished > without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. > > I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no > issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to > those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. > > To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, > or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have > a Dedicated Sound card in the system? > > Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged > into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from > the Mother board manufacturer. > > > This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built > in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the > Mother board. > > How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the > system freeze. > > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rathburndanny% 40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi Dave: I am in between. I get allot of freeze ups especially in IE 11 using WindowEyes 9.1 and 9.2 but not all the time. Allot depends on which Websites I am visiting and how cranky WindowEyes is behaving when I go to them. There have been several good ideas about this ranging from automatic mouse stuff causing problems as WindowEyes moves it around behind the scenes to flash, one I am sure WindowEyes has problems with, to the fact that WindowEyes might be having problems trying to get the use of computer processors if it is running on a thread that gets locked up. And then there are the various scripts that run slowly compared to compiled code, use various timing tricks and have their own threading and message processing situations. Most of these can not really be analyzed by us since we don't have access to necessary code nor would we want to most likely. But when you are on a Website and you get an error that IE Explorer or other application has locked up it should never lock up the Screen Reader. Also, anything that is used to monitor dynamic and page changes events should never be able to automatically trigger any action without some specific interface, notification perhaps but no automagic actions without notification. We don't want a MenuBar ppopping up because of WE tracking some screen changes behind the scene and moving the mouse, by itself for tracking purposes, over some active control, ditto dynamic advertising and flash or flash advertising. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:48 PM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have a Dedicated Sound card in the system? Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from the Mother board manufacturer. This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the Mother board. How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the system freeze. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Windows 7 64-bit running on Toshiba 5-year-old laptop, Core I3-350M processor, 4 GB of RAM, RealTech built-in sound card. Window-Eyes 9.2, Eloquence TTS for Window-Eyes, Windows Live Mail 2012, IE 11, Firefox 40.02, Office 2010, Windows Security Essentials. Typically 1.5 to 2 GB of RAM is in use. Sometimes WLM or IE 11 will become busy and I use ctrl-Alt-W to reboot Window-Eyes. If you can't get ctrl-Alt-W to work from inside a program, try doing it from the desktop. If that doesn't work, avoid clobbering your system by doing a no-feedback shutdown: Windows key, Tab twice, right arrow once, R for Restart. Try the same websites with NVDA. I get plenty of use out of my Window-Eyes investment, and these crashes are not very frequent. I think that for both IE 11 and Firefox, Flash is becoming a big problem for stability. And web sites are far more complicated than they were 10 or 15 years ago, with lots of things ggoing on behind your back. But you have a fighting chance if you keep your screen reader up to date and don't run an antivirus program that hobbles your system. Keep those toolbars at bay, too. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: via Talk Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have a Dedicated Sound card in the system? Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from the Mother board manufacturer. This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the Mother board. How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the system freeze. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I am one that is not having the problem to the extent that some are. I have some sight and some times when this happens there is a message that IE has stopped working, so it may not be just a WE problem. I wonder if JAWS or NVDA users are having any of these problems? I am sure that AISquared is working hard to find a solution. - Original Message - From: "via Talk" To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have a Dedicated Sound card in the system? Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from the Mother board manufacturer. This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the Mother board. How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the system freeze. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hello Chris, OK, I did what you asked, and then went to Youtube to check on Subscriptions. I was moving slowly, as I could tell, WE was not Snappy Responsive, which usually means I can loose speech at any time. I was able to view several videos, and then the Speech dropped out. I waited for about one minute, and it came back. However, once the Speech has gone away, it doesn't seem to take much to make it disappear again, usually for good. And sure enough, was watching another Video, and about two thirds of the way through a 4 minute video, the speech just disappeared. I could not tell if it was I.E. 11 that locked up, or if it was just WE. But, nothing I did brought Speech back. I ended up needing to do a Hard Re boot. Once the system had re started, the speech was back, and I am writing this email. When I have a list of Links on a web page, I will Press the Insert Tab key combination, which gives me a list of those Links on the page. I never have any problems reading this list. In fact, the reading is Snappy and I can use the Arrow keys quickly without having any freezing, or locking up of WE, or I.E. or the System. After viewing a video, and am back into Browse mode, WE is again slightly sluggish, and if I attempt to move quickly through the lines of text on the web page, it is very easy to cause WE to fall behind, and go quiet. That is when I can wait for 20, 30, or more seconds, for the speech to perhaps return. Sometimes it does, and other times it does not. Sorry, am only giving you symptoms and not causes, but right now, I do not know what is Causing WE to run so badly. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi: Ok, I will give it a try. I am running windows 7.5, latest fire fox, officd2007 with outlook. Also, avg, malware bytes 1.75, and older version of spy bot. No crashes with ms word, and excell I can't read much of the screen with avg and no need to as all I do is scan and let avg delete whatever it finds, same with malware bytes although I can read the screen in that case. I do have occasional problems trying some links, they don't work With fire fox, very little problems, other then the rare link mentioned above A sound card not on the mother board and I think it is a sound blaster card or a derritive of same When the computer boots, window eyes apps come up if there is and update and I can make a choice. However, I do not do a lot of heavy internet stuff other then searches and very few shoppingg or bank sites other then my own which is a canadian bank. Ok, that is it from a very old and non techie guy who just wants normal use from his computer and no strange stuff, no games, and no wild web sites. For what it is worth and probably not much Don But, yes, I do have ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi, I'm running WE 9.2 and Windows 7 HP 64-bit on a 6-year old Acer laptop with only 2 Gigs of ram. It has a ATI Radian HD3200 graphics and Realtech HD sound card built-in and I'm not experiencing the constant crashes that others are reporting. My biggest complaaint about I.E. 11 is encountering links that can't be opened, buttons that can't be clicked, combo boxes that can't be activated and so on. I am particularly disappointed that the Walmart.com web site is almost impossible to use any more. In the past, I've ordered from Walmart.com every 6 to 8 weeks. The orders consisted of non-perishible food, household items and personal products at very competitive prices. I was unable to complete a questionaire on line in preparation for a doctor's appointment because links wouldn't open and edit boxes wouldn't accept text. These type of issues directly affect my ability to function independently as a blind person. I know that a screenreader can't overcome a poorly designed web site but I can empathize with those that feel that accessibility in general is not as good as it should be nowadays. I will continue to use WE and hope that future releases will address some of these issues. Respectively, Dan -- From: "via Talk" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:47 PM To: "Don H" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have a Dedicated Sound card in the system? Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from the Mother board manufacturer. This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the Mother board. How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the system freeze. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rathburndanny%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
If you call their Tech Support, they won't say that 9.1 or 9.2 has been a Step backwards, but what they do not say, often tells the story they can not say over the phone. After all, management might be listening, and heaven forbid someone tell the truth about a product. Although, I am still wondering what the differences are between those systems that are said to run 9.2 without a stitch of problems, and the systems those of us who can barely get a session on the Web finished without speech dropping out, or the system freezing up. I asked this question to those who had those systems that were having no issues, but did not get a single reply. So I'll ask my question to those of us who are having major issues with 9.X. To those who are finding 9.2, or 9.1 locking up, or Speech Dropping out, or requiring a restart of WE, or a hard Re Boot, does your computer have a Dedicated Sound card in the system? Meaning, the Sound chips you are using, are on a Card that is plugged into the Mother Board, rather than are built into the Mother board from the Mother board manufacturer. This system I use, has no dedecated Sound card, but is using the built in Graphics as well as the built in Sound features that were part of the Mother board. How about the rest of you, if you can write an Email without having the system freeze. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE 9.2 and IE 11
Having tried all the suggested possible fixes for WE 9.2 not working well with IE 11, I think it can be said with confidence that WE 9.2 is a step backwards when it comes to working well with IE 11. Would be nice if Ai Squared would confirm this backslide and at least say they are working on it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi, What happens if you go to verbosity/browse mode/new page information 1 and set auto read to do nothing instead of reading the first 24 lines\? Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Ennis Killip via Talk Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 10:49 AM To: dlh...@centurylink.net; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Hi, I am experiencing exactly the same difficulties and am concerned I am not doing my computer any good by doing hard restarts constantly. I also have the problem that WE will not always allow me to open combi boxes. Ennis. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ennis.killip=sky@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:06 PM To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I too continue to experience repeated crashes and Speech going away. using the Short Cut to re start WE rarely works. Almost always, I need to do a hard Re start. I have attempted to clean up old Set files, but so far, this has not reduced the rate of failure. On my system, it does seem as if I type too fast, I can cause WE to go quiet. If I wait 20, 30, 60 seconds, sometimes speech will return on its own. I do not have the Keyboard speaking characters or words. Am using Win 7 64 bit, and Word 2010, as well as I.E. 11. Navigating some web sites is very difficult. I am starting to use some of the short cuts, which makes a little difference, but using just the arrow keys to move around, does not always work as in previous editions of Window eyes. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ennis.killip%4 0sky.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi Dave I am dealing with all of the same issues. Thanks for listing the difficulties of using We. I have the same computer specs as you. Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:06 AM, via Talk wrote: > > I too continue to experience repeated crashes and Speech going away. > using the Short Cut to re start WE rarely works. Almost always, I need > to do a hard Re start. > > I have attempted to clean up old Set files, but so far, this has not > reduced the rate of failure. > > On my system, it does seem as if I type too fast, I can cause WE to go > quiet. If I wait 20, 30, 60 seconds, sometimes speech will return on > its own. > > I do not have the Keyboard speaking characters or words. > > > Am using Win 7 64 bit, and Word 2010, as well as I.E. 11. > > Navigating some web sites is very difficult. I am starting to use some > of the short cuts, which makes a little difference, but using just the > arrow keys to move around, does not always work as in previous editions > of Window eyes. > > > -- > Dave > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ktpurity%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi, I am experiencing exactly the same difficulties and am concerned I am not doing my computer any good by doing hard restarts constantly. I also have the problem that WE will not always allow me to open combi boxes. Ennis. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ennis.killip=sky@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 3:06 PM To: Rick Thomas ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I too continue to experience repeated crashes and Speech going away. using the Short Cut to re start WE rarely works. Almost always, I need to do a hard Re start. I have attempted to clean up old Set files, but so far, this has not reduced the rate of failure. On my system, it does seem as if I type too fast, I can cause WE to go quiet. If I wait 20, 30, 60 seconds, sometimes speech will return on its own. I do not have the Keyboard speaking characters or words. Am using Win 7 64 bit, and Word 2010, as well as I.E. 11. Navigating some web sites is very difficult. I am starting to use some of the short cuts, which makes a little difference, but using just the arrow keys to move around, does not always work as in previous editions of Window eyes. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ennis.killip%4 0sky.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I too continue to experience repeated crashes and Speech going away. using the Short Cut to re start WE rarely works. Almost always, I need to do a hard Re start. I have attempted to clean up old Set files, but so far, this has not reduced the rate of failure. On my system, it does seem as if I type too fast, I can cause WE to go quiet. If I wait 20, 30, 60 seconds, sometimes speech will return on its own. I do not have the Keyboard speaking characters or words. Am using Win 7 64 bit, and Word 2010, as well as I.E. 11. Navigating some web sites is very difficult. I am starting to use some of the short cuts, which makes a little difference, but using just the arrow keys to move around, does not always work as in previous editions of Window eyes. -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I get it happen all the time we just stops talking the short cut key always brigns we back but its anoying. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 9:14 AM To: Curtis Delzer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I hate to add my voice to this thread, but I am using Windows 7 64-Bit Pro, ande I have chronic crashing of IE 11 and WE 9.2. Yes, I tried deleting everything but my favorites, and it doesn't help. I have reset my setting inIE as well. -Original Message- From: Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:51 PM To: Kathy Metters ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I just don't do "me too" messages," and have been really TRYING not too, with this version of we, 9.2 and windows 10 pro 64 bit, to agree with all the silence of we-messages in this thread,but . . . Tabbing within applications, alt-tabbing between applications, bringing up IE, and within IE; tabbing to links, bringing up the link listing facility with insert-tab, not staying focussed on an edit box to type in a search string like on the bookshare page, and then, SILENCE. Not golden silence, but silence where usually, control-alt-w brings it back but, I can count on fingers of two hands how many times it happens in an hour, and yes, I did say two hands. Within windows 10; file explorer, tabbing in and around the start menu,boom, crash or silence. All I have for Internet or virus protection / mal-ware is Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, c-cleaner, and what comes with Windows 10, defender. It does not matter which synthesizer, or group of speech synthesizers, WE consistently crashes. -- Curtis Delzer On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:13:02 -0700 Kathy Metters via Talk wrote: I too am running the latest version of window eyes on a Windows 7 PC 64-bit with IE 11. I have had so many crashes since updating to the latest version of window eyes. Today I lost speech totally. I couldn't get speech back and I had to force a hard shutdown. I don't know what is going on with window eyes. Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Don H via Talk > wrote: > > Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11. > Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more > losses of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1. Control alt W brings speech > back > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ktpurity%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 and chrome causing WE9.2 crashes with alt d
Hi to all and Curtis in particular, Thanks for posting, and I urge everyone with WE9.2 crashing or silence problem to post; so that this problem can be debugged. Firstly all of the triggers mentioned by Curtis for causing WE9.2 to crash or go silent are also happening to me. They are more frequent with windows 10 than with windows 7. Also, it usually it takes pressing a key twice to get things done. to press a key twice to get it to respond. For example, in Thunderbird for me to select an email from the inbox or to delete it, I need to press the key twice. If I am reading an email and want to delete it, I need to press delete twice. Yesterday I installed chrome onto both windows 7 and windows 10 and pressing alt d causes WE9.2 to crash -- Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. ** ** ** ** ** **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** ** computer specifications: Window Eyes 9.2 , Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10 with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad core drivers and software updated. Software recommended: Firefox, Thunderbird, security: Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform, Ninite updater, and Driver buster (which you need sighted help because it is all graphic, but works great for updating drivers.) On 8/23/2015 10:51 AM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote: I just don't do "me too" messages," and have been really TRYING not too, with this version of we, 9.2 and windows 10 pro 64 bit, to agree with all the silence of we-messages in this thread,but . . . Tabbing within applications, alt-tabbing between applications, bringing up IE, and within IE; tabbing to links, bringing up the link listing facility with insert-tab, not staying focussed on an edit box to type in a search string like on the bookshare page, and then, SILENCE. Not golden silence, but silence where usually, control-alt-w brings it back but, I can count on fingers of two hands how many times it happens in an hour, and yes, I did say two hands. Within windows 10; file explorer, tabbing in and around the start menu,boom, crash or silence. All I have for Internet or virus protection / mal-ware is Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, c-cleaner, and what comes with Windows 10, defender. It does not matter which synthesizer, or group of speech synthesizers, WE consistently crashes. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I hate to add my voice to this thread, but I am using Windows 7 64-Bit Pro, ande I have chronic crashing of IE 11 and WE 9.2. Yes, I tried deleting everything but my favorites, and it doesn't help. I have reset my setting inIE as well. -Original Message- From: Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:51 PM To: Kathy Metters ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I just don't do "me too" messages," and have been really TRYING not too, with this version of we, 9.2 and windows 10 pro 64 bit, to agree with all the silence of we-messages in this thread,but . . . Tabbing within applications, alt-tabbing between applications, bringing up IE, and within IE; tabbing to links, bringing up the link listing facility with insert-tab, not staying focussed on an edit box to type in a search string like on the bookshare page, and then, SILENCE. Not golden silence, but silence where usually, control-alt-w brings it back but, I can count on fingers of two hands how many times it happens in an hour, and yes, I did say two hands. Within windows 10; file explorer, tabbing in and around the start menu,boom, crash or silence. All I have for Internet or virus protection / mal-ware is Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, c-cleaner, and what comes with Windows 10, defender. It does not matter which synthesizer, or group of speech synthesizers, WE consistently crashes. -- Curtis Delzer On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:13:02 -0700 Kathy Metters via Talk wrote: I too am running the latest version of window eyes on a Windows 7 PC 64-bit with IE 11. I have had so many crashes since updating to the latest version of window eyes. Today I lost speech totally. I couldn't get speech back and I had to force a hard shutdown. I don't know what is going on with window eyes. Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Don H via Talk > wrote: > > Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11. > Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more > losses of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1. Control alt W brings speech > back > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ktpurity%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40kc.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I just don't do "me too" messages," and have been really TRYING not too, with this version of we, 9.2 and windows 10 pro 64 bit, to agree with all the silence of we-messages in this thread,but . . . Tabbing within applications, alt-tabbing between applications, bringing up IE, and within IE; tabbing to links, bringing up the link listing facility with insert-tab, not staying focussed on an edit box to type in a search string like on the bookshare page, and then, SILENCE. Not golden silence, but silence where usually, control-alt-w brings it back but, I can count on fingers of two hands how many times it happens in an hour, and yes, I did say two hands. Within windows 10; file explorer, tabbing in and around the start menu,boom, crash or silence. All I have for Internet or virus protection / mal-ware is Malwarebytes Anti-Malware, c-cleaner, and what comes with Windows 10, defender. It does not matter which synthesizer, or group of speech synthesizers, WE consistently crashes. -- Curtis Delzer On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 21:13:02 -0700 Kathy Metters via Talk wrote: > I too am running the latest version of window eyes on a Windows 7 PC 64-bit > with IE 11. I have had so many crashes since updating to the latest version > of window eyes. Today I lost speech totally. I couldn't get speech back and I > had to force a hard shutdown. I don't know what is going on with window eyes. > > Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Don H via Talk > > wrote: > > > > Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11. > > Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more losses > > of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1. Control alt W brings speech back > > ___ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ktpurity%40gmail.com. > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi: Happens here on my Windows 8.1 machine with WE 9.2 and IE 11. The symptoms are losing speech, losing the up and down arrow keys and usually the tabbing keys and sometimes the alt-tab function. Sometimes the ctl-alt-w keys will bring it back but often only partially. Sometimes firing up narrator and moving around the web page by tabbing will then have WE start speaking again but often without the use of the up and down arrow keys and it is likely to fail again unless I exit and ReStart IE and sometimes the machine itself. Sometimes firing up jaws will work to help WindowEyes come back, note that jaws still reads things correctly so the pages are there, and sometimes just refreshing the page might help but not usually. I have noticed that often when I do manage to get speech back the cursor or whatever is around an input or active control on the page like a search box or one of those menu bars with various control options and sometimes if I get away from them quickly I can avoid the problem, sometimes not so this is not a solid idea but has been the case often enough to indicate a possible point of the problem source. Another problem I have, had allot with another browser, firefox, was that WE was having all kinds of problems with flash objects crashing firefox. It got so bad I dumped firefox and just live with all the IE speech problems in WindowEyes. The thing here is that while I am not getting major page messages from firefox that it has crashed due to the flash problems these pages likely still use flash in Internet Explorer so may be another source of WE Problems - don't know. Good luck: Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Metters via Talk Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 12:13 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 I too am running the latest version of window eyes on a Windows 7 PC 64-bit with IE 11. I have had so many crashes since updating to the latest version of window eyes. Today I lost speech totally. I couldn't get speech back and I had to force a hard shutdown. I don't know what is going on with window eyes. Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Don H via Talk wrote: > > Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11. > Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more losses of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1. Control alt W brings speech back > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ktpurity%40gma il.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I too am running the latest version of window eyes on a Windows 7 PC 64-bit with IE 11. I have had so many crashes since updating to the latest version of window eyes. Today I lost speech totally. I couldn't get speech back and I had to force a hard shutdown. I don't know what is going on with window eyes. Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Don H via Talk > wrote: > > Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11. > Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more losses > of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1. Control alt W brings speech back > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ktpurity%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi Don, Have you tried the key F11 to toggle full screen on and then off? Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Don H via Talk Sent: August 21, 2015 9:21 AM To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Wished it was that simple. Only thing checked is lock the tool bar. On 8/21/2015 4:20 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote: > Hi, > You can also try going into the view menu select toolbars and make sure most of them are unchecked. > Chris > > Window-Eyes Product Support > Ai Squared > 725 Airport North Office Park > Fort Wayne, IN 46825 > (802) 362-3612 > www.aisquared.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:03 PM > To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > Maybe f6, shift f6 control f6? :) sometimes one of those combinations gets out of that header stuff. :) > -- > Curtis Delzer > > On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 08:55:46 -0600 > Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > >> Glad I'm not the only one who has that problem sometimes. >> >> >> >> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. >> -Original Message----- From: Don H via Talk >> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:44 AM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: WE 9.2 and IE 11 >> >> Running IE 11 on Win 7 or 8.1 or win 10 seems to have this same issue. >> When going to any random web site I find myself not on the web page >> but up in the header area of IE 11. Sometimes you can tab your way >> back down to the actual web page and sometimes tabbing just circles >> you around in the IE header. >> Is there any way of preventing this? This issue has been around for >> several WE versions with no improvement in WE 9.2. >> Any help would be appreciated other than saying use another browser. >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000% 40cableone.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40v erizon.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40a isquared.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comc ast.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Wished it was that simple. Only thing checked is lock the tool bar. On 8/21/2015 4:20 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote: Hi, You can also try going into the view menu select toolbars and make sure most of them are unchecked. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:03 PM To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Maybe f6, shift f6 control f6? :) sometimes one of those combinations gets out of that header stuff. :) -- Curtis Delzer On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 08:55:46 -0600 Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who has that problem sometimes. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:44 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Running IE 11 on Win 7 or 8.1 or win 10 seems to have this same issue. When going to any random web site I find myself not on the web page but up in the header area of IE 11. Sometimes you can tab your way back down to the actual web page and sometimes tabbing just circles you around in the IE header. Is there any way of preventing this? This issue has been around for several WE versions with no improvement in WE 9.2. Any help would be appreciated other than saying use another browser. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi, You can also try going into the view menu select toolbars and make sure most of them are unchecked. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:03 PM To: Bryan Peterson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Maybe f6, shift f6 control f6? :) sometimes one of those combinations gets out of that header stuff. :) -- Curtis Delzer On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 08:55:46 -0600 Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > Glad I'm not the only one who has that problem sometimes. > > > > Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. > -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:44 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > Running IE 11 on Win 7 or 8.1 or win 10 seems to have this same issue. > When going to any random web site I find myself not on the web page > but up in the header area of IE 11. Sometimes you can tab your way > back down to the actual web page and sometimes tabbing just circles > you around in the IE header. > Is there any way of preventing this? This issue has been around for > several WE versions with no improvement in WE 9.2. > Any help would be appreciated other than saying use another browser. > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Maybe f6, shift f6 control f6? :) sometimes one of those combinations gets out of that header stuff. :) -- Curtis Delzer On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 08:55:46 -0600 Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: > Glad I'm not the only one who has that problem sometimes. > > > > Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. > -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:44 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: WE 9.2 and IE 11 > > Running IE 11 on Win 7 or 8.1 or win 10 seems to have this same issue. > When going to any random web site I find myself not on the web page but > up in the header area of IE 11. Sometimes you can tab your way back > down to the actual web page and sometimes tabbing just circles you > around in the IE header. > Is there any way of preventing this? This issue has been around for > several WE versions with no improvement in WE 9.2. > Any help would be appreciated other than saying use another browser. > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I went to this site and tabbed up and down maniacally, moved by headings, lists, landmarks, etc. and had no problems. I then did a search and bounced all around again. And again it was rock solid. You could take a look at the add-ons in IE and consider resetting advanced settings. Good luck, Tom On 8/20/2015 2:00 PM, manny via Talk wrote: Hi, Their seems to be a compatibility problem with I e 11 and WE9.2. I did install all the factory set files, as suggested by a poster. I tried using my a t and t uverse account on both windows 10 and windows 7 WE9.2 after some tabbing around the website seems to make WE9.2 gag. Sometimes WE9.2 starts talking again, but sometimes not, in which case I have to start all over. here is the link: http://uverse.com/tv I went to the same website on my ipad using voice over and I was able to brows the page with no problem.-- Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. ** ** ** ** ** **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** ** computer specifications: Window Eyes 9.2 , Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10 with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad core drivers and software updated. Software recommended: Firefox, Thunderbird, security: Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform, Ninite updater, and Driver buster (which you need sighted help because it is all graphic, but works great for updating drivers.) On 8/20/2015 4:55 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who has that problem sometimes. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:44 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Running IE 11 on Win 7 or 8.1 or win 10 seems to have this same issue. When going to any random web site I find myself not on the web page but up in the header area of IE 11. Sometimes you can tab your way back down to the actual web page and sometimes tabbing just circles you around in the IE header. Is there any way of preventing this? This issue has been around for several WE versions with no improvement in WE 9.2. Any help would be appreciated other than saying use another browser. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mauiman01%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi, Their seems to be a compatibility problem with I e 11 and WE9.2. I did install all the factory set files, as suggested by a poster. I tried using my a t and t uverse account on both windows 10 and windows 7 WE9.2 after some tabbing around the website seems to make WE9.2 gag. Sometimes WE9.2 starts talking again, but sometimes not, in which case I have to start all over. here is the link: http://uverse.com/tv I went to the same website on my ipad using voice over and I was able to brows the page with no problem.-- Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. ** ** ** ** ** **http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** ** computer specifications: Window Eyes 9.2 , Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10 with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad core drivers and software updated. Software recommended: Firefox, Thunderbird, security: Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform, Ninite updater, and Driver buster (which you need sighted help because it is all graphic, but works great for updating drivers.) On 8/20/2015 4:55 AM, Bryan Peterson via Talk wrote: Glad I'm not the only one who has that problem sometimes. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:44 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Running IE 11 on Win 7 or 8.1 or win 10 seems to have this same issue. When going to any random web site I find myself not on the web page but up in the header area of IE 11. Sometimes you can tab your way back down to the actual web page and sometimes tabbing just circles you around in the IE header. Is there any way of preventing this? This issue has been around for several WE versions with no improvement in WE 9.2. Any help would be appreciated other than saying use another browser. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mauiman01%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Glad I'm not the only one who has that problem sometimes. Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:44 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Running IE 11 on Win 7 or 8.1 or win 10 seems to have this same issue. When going to any random web site I find myself not on the web page but up in the header area of IE 11. Sometimes you can tab your way back down to the actual web page and sometimes tabbing just circles you around in the IE header. Is there any way of preventing this? This issue has been around for several WE versions with no improvement in WE 9.2. Any help would be appreciated other than saying use another browser. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE 9.2 and IE 11
Running IE 11 on Win 7 or 8.1 or win 10 seems to have this same issue. When going to any random web site I find myself not on the web page but up in the header area of IE 11. Sometimes you can tab your way back down to the actual web page and sometimes tabbing just circles you around in the IE header. Is there any way of preventing this? This issue has been around for several WE versions with no improvement in WE 9.2. Any help would be appreciated other than saying use another browser. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Still getting a lot of crashes with Windows 9.2 and IE11. Did someone say something about an auto-recovery feature? Well it hasn't happened for me yet; I still have to press control alt W to get WE back. Also, still got the issue with Audible downloads where Window-Eyes sticks halfway through the download and will neither close nor open and I have to reboot. Must say I thought these bugs had been ironed out but it seems not. Windows Seven 64 bit with latest Window-Eyes! Cheers, Sandra. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
This is what helped me in the past. I went into Internet options, advanced tab and reset IE. Another time uninstalling Siverlite seems to make a difference. - Original Message - From: "via Talk" To: "Rick Jarvis" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:04 PM Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Since chip and a couple of others are finding 9.2 to be the most wonderful version ever, I guess I should ask other than running a malware package, what else might I try? Because I am not a Happy Camper with 9.1, and do not want to fork out another $50 for 9.2, which some others are finding to be troublesome in the same way 9.1 has been. I have seen programs that are to check and update all Drivers on a given system, but so far, I have not trusted these programs to be installed without some kind of malware of its own. If any here know of such a program, and that it is trustworthy, would you share the name of it here? I have really been struggling to use the 9.1. And I have call Tech four or five times, and they find nothing strange about my system. but, I must have something not quite right, so am looking for any help. the other Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Try deleting your browser history/cache. Also do you have any third party apps installed, if so what ones? Have you tried turning apps off to see if that makes a difference? Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:04 PM To: Rick Jarvis ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Since chip and a couple of others are finding 9.2 to be the most wonderful version ever, I guess I should ask other than running a malware package, what else might I try? Because I am not a Happy Camper with 9.1, and do not want to fork out another $50 for 9.2, which some others are finding to be troublesome in the same way 9.1 has been. I have seen programs that are to check and update all Drivers on a given system, but so far, I have not trusted these programs to be installed without some kind of malware of its own. If any here know of such a program, and that it is trustworthy, would you share the name of it here? I have really been struggling to use the 9.1. And I have call Tech four or five times, and they find nothing strange about my system. but, I must have something not quite right, so am looking for any help. the other Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Since chip and a couple of others are finding 9.2 to be the most wonderful version ever, I guess I should ask other than running a malware package, what else might I try? Because I am not a Happy Camper with 9.1, and do not want to fork out another $50 for 9.2, which some others are finding to be troublesome in the same way 9.1 has been. I have seen programs that are to check and update all Drivers on a given system, but so far, I have not trusted these programs to be installed without some kind of malware of its own. If any here know of such a program, and that it is trustworthy, would you share the name of it here? I have really been struggling to use the 9.1. And I have call Tech four or five times, and they find nothing strange about my system. but, I must have something not quite right, so am looking for any help. the other Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
I wish I had the magic answer. But, unfortunately, all I can say is I can't remember the last time I lost speech. Window-Eyes 9.2, IE 11, W7/64. Tom On 8/18/2015 6:26 PM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: Yes it happens to me more often than it used too. I am running windows 10 and of course win-eyes 9.2 I seem to loose speech more than normal. Rick On 8/18/2015 1:16 PM, Don H via Talk wrote: Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11. Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more losses of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1. Control alt W brings speech back ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Yes it happens to me more often than it used too. I am running windows 10 and of course win-eyes 9.2 I seem to loose speech more than normal. Rick On 8/18/2015 1:16 PM, Don H via Talk wrote: Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11. Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more losses of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1. Control alt W brings speech back ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE 9.2 and IE 11
Hi, Me too. I've also noticed that since 9.2 on my bank website WE doesn't read the secret word anymore as I arrow down through the choices or use first letter navagation, I have to tab away and then back to read the word and then do it over and over till I get the word I need. I did work properly in 9.1. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 1:16 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE 9.2 and IE 11 Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11. Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more losses of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1. Control alt W brings speech back ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE 9.2 and IE 11
Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and using IE 11. Can't say it is tied to any one web site but have noticed a lot more losses of speech with WE 9.2 versus 9.1. Control alt W brings speech back ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
