[Talk-kosovo] Map Mitrovica
Hi all, this is to announce the first OSM mapping event to take place in Mitrovicë/Kosovska Mitrovica next week! It is organised in collaboration with a local organization that aims to bring people from the divided city together. We hope to attract many participants from different parts of the city and to make the best city map ever :) See this wiki page for more information: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Mitrovica Also we're looking for some experienced OSM users speaking Serbian and/or Albanian to support the event by joining us and giving help to the participants. Feel free to contact me if you're interested to join. Looking forward to your feedback! jan ___ Talk-kosovo mailing list Talk-kosovo@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-kosovo
[talk-ph] Post-disaster imagery of Tacloban area available
Dear All, Thanks to the coordination work of Andrew Buck, Kate Chapman, and Dale Kunce from the American Red Cross, among others, the U.S. Department of State's Humanitarian Information Unit (HUI) has made available post-disaster imagery from Digital Globe through the NextView License. Robert Banick, from the American Red Cross too, has setup a task to map the current state of Tacloban City area after Typhoon Haiyan inflicted heavy damage to buildings, infrastructure and areas: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/350 Many thanks to all those who made this possible, and to all of you who are going to make the best use of it to help the relief workers alleviate the suffering of the survivors. Jean-Guilhem ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: Re: [HOT] Post-disaster imagery of Tacloban area available
Sending this message again, as the previous version was rejected as too big because it included a large screen capture. I think it remains understandable without it. Anyway, the big version is in the moderator queue. Message original Sujet: Re: [HOT] Post-disaster imagery of Tacloban area available Date : Wed, 13 Nov 2013 10:46:13 +0100 De :Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org Pour : Noel Ballantyne noelballant...@gmail.com Copie à : HOT h...@openstreetmap.org, osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Hi Noel Good tip for JOSM, and good idea to share your offset estimate. But please, send them directly to the lists. (Actually, at first, I was thinking that this was what you had done.) I am copying them now. Thank you very much, Jean-Guilhem Le 13/11/2013 10:10, Noel Ballantyne a écrit : Hi Jean-Guilhem A tip for anyone using JOSM. create a filter with this expression' collapsed OR damaged' With this filter on buildings tagged with collapsed OR damaged be greyed out leaving buildings that have not been assessed. [cut image to cut down my message size] Noel On 13 November 2013 08:57, Noel Ballantyne noelballant...@gmail.com mailto:noelballant...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jean-Guilhem There is an imagery offset of 6.71; -1.73 for anyone using JOSM Noel On 13 November 2013 08:10, Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org mailto:jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org wrote: Dear All, Thanks to the coordination work of Andrew Buck, Kate Chapman, and Dale Kunce from the American Red Cross, among others, the U.S. Department of State's Humanitarian Information Unit (HUI) has made available post-disaster imagery from Digital Globe through the NextView License. Robert Banick, from the American Red Cross too, has setup a task to map the current state of Tacloban City area after Typhoon Haiyan inflicted heavy damage to buildings, infrastructure and areas: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/350 Many thanks to all those who made this possible, and to all of you who are going to make the best use of it to help the relief workers alleviate the suffering of the survivors. Jean-Guilhem ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org mailto:h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Post-disaster imagery of Tacloban area available
Hi Erwin, landuse=brownfield was suggested on IRC Please people, talk with the lists directly, I am very busy trying to setup more imagery. Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem Le 13/11/2013 11:09, Erwin Olario a écrit : How should we mark areas tagged as residential (without buildings) and appears to be damaged? On Wednesday, November 13, 2013, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote: Sending this message again, as the previous version was rejected as too big because it included a large screen capture. I think it remains understandable without it. Anyway, the big version is in the moderator queue. Message original Sujet:Re: [HOT] Post-disaster imagery of Tacloban area available Date :Wed, 13 Nov 2013 10:46:13 +0100 De : Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org'); Pour :Noel Ballantyne noelballant...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'noelballant...@gmail.com'); Copie à : HOT h...@openstreetmap.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'h...@openstreetmap.org');, osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'talk-ph@openstreetmap.org'); Hi Noel Good tip for JOSM, and good idea to share your offset estimate. But please, send them directly to the lists. (Actually, at first, I was thinking that this was what you had done.) I am copying them now. Thank you very much, Jean-Guilhem Le 13/11/2013 10:10, Noel Ballantyne a écrit : Hi Jean-Guilhem A tip for anyone using JOSM. create a filter with this expression' collapsed OR damaged' With this filter on buildings tagged with collapsed OR damaged be greyed out leaving buildings that have not been assessed. [cut image to cut down my message size] Noel On 13 November 2013 08:57, Noel Ballantyne noelballant...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'noelballant...@gmail.com'); wrote: Hi Jean-Guilhem There is an imagery offset of 6.71; -1.73 for anyone using JOSM Noel On 13 November 2013 08:10, Jean-Guilhem Cailton jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'jg_cail...@volunteers.cartong.org'); wrote: Dear All, Thanks to the coordination work of Andrew Buck, Kate Chapman, and Dale Kunce from the American Red Cross, among others, the U.S. Department of State's Humanitarian Information Unit (HUI) has made available post-disaster imagery from Digital Globe through the NextView License. Robert Banick, from the American Red Cross too, has setup a task to map the current state of Tacloban City area after Typhoon Haiyan inflicted heavy damage to buildings, infrastructure and areas: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/350 Many thanks to all those who made this possible, and to all of you who are going to make the best use of it to help the relief workers alleviate the suffering of the survivors. Jean-Guilhem ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'h...@openstreetmap.org'); https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- *Erwin Olario* - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - » email: erwin@ mailto:er...@ngnuity.net*n**GNU**it**y**.**net* http://ngnuity.net/ | gov...@gmail.com mailto:gov...@gmail.com » mobile (PHL): +63 908 817 2013 » voicemail / sms (USA): +1 347 746 9461 » OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B | 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 D56B ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Just found this map in the New York Times, which credits OpenStreetMap. Presumably this is the end result of all the initial mapping done on OSM? http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/11/11/world/asia/typhoon-haiyan-map.html?_r=0 Yes. :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Typhoon Haiyan and OpenStreetMap
Hello everyone, The online response to mapping the areas affected by Typhoon Haiyan is very heartwarming. Thank you to everyone involved. Please do continue to map as the data is being used by first responders and relief workers. Most of the information about mapping efforts can be found on the OSM Wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan Here are some choice highlights: 1. HOT's OSM Tasking Manager: http://tasks.hotosm.org/ - This is where most of the mapping efforts are coordinated. There are currently 13 tasks that you can participate in. Almost all tasks are for tracing buildings and roads using available Bing satellite imagery. One is for assessing damage using post-typhoon imagery. 2. The Atlantic - How Online Mapmakers Are Helping the Red Cross Save Lives in the Philippines: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/11/how-online-mapmakers-are-helping-the-red-cross-save-lives-in-the-philippines/281366/ - Feature article explaining how the map data in OSM can help the (American) Red Cross in directing relief effort where it is needed most 3. Changesets map by Pascal Neis: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-typhoon-haiyan-2013/#7/11.502/122.805 - Hourly updated map showing the locations of half of the 8000+ changesets in the affected areas. These changesets were done by 600+ mappers and contain almost 1.3 million changes (versions) to objects. 4. Before and after map: http://pierzen.dev.openstreetmap.org/hot/leaflet/OSM-Compare-before-after-philippines.html - Side-by-side map comparing rendered OSM data from before the typhoon to the current OSM tiles 5. Areal damage overview map of Tacloban: http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/americanredcross.map-ms6tihx6/page.html#14/11.2189/125.0116 - Map by the American Red Cross showing areas damaged in Tacloban. The buildings come from OSM. This map has been used by The New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/11/11/world/asia/typhoon-haiyan-map.html?_r=1; Thanks! Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Yolanda Mapathon at UP Geography Dept.
Dear all, We are planning a short mapathon to train a few people of the UPD Geography Department to edit OSM. Initial plan will be on Friday Nov 15, 6:00 PM. If anyone is near UP Diliman, please join. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Searching all financial institutions (Yolanda Response)
Dear everyone, We got a request to search for details of all banks, money transfer, postoffices. Basically, we need to improve address details on what is available in OSM. No mapping needed, this is just browser and spreadsheet. If anyone is interested, send me a message offlist. Thanks! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk-be] POI Address problem
Can someone please tell me how I can properly tag this POI http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/237662466 ? It's a shop located in the Pierstraat in Reet. The building has an addr:street tag and is part of an associatedStreet relation. However Nominatim (and openlinkmap) places it in the Pierstraat - Matenstraat. Do a look-up for Vero Golf on osm.org I know this is a complex street that starts as Pierstraat in Reet/Rumst in the east, becomes Pierstraat (Reet side)- Reetsesteenweg (Aartselaar side), Pierstraat (both Reet Aartselaar), Pierstraat (Aartselaar side) - Matenstraat (Niel side) while traveling to the west. Nevertheless the building is nearer a Pierstraat-Pierstraat part and has all those additional tags. So what's the use of all this additional information when the reference implementation (=Nominatim) just ignores it? m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Brussels
On 2013-11-13 12:18, Marc Gemis wrote : Can someone please tell me how I can properly tag this POI http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/237662466 ? It's a shop located in the Pierstraat in Reet. The building has an addr:street tag and is part of an associatedStreet relation. However Nominatim (and openlinkmap) places it in the Pierstraat - Matenstraat. Do a look-up for Vero Golf on osm.org http://osm.org Would anyone mind so little? ;-) Brussels: *Village* Boundary Brussels, Ville de Bruxelles, Brussels-Capital, *French Community*, Brussels-Capital Region, 1000;1040, Belgium http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=4.33549880981445minlat=50.7964057922363maxlon=4.40201187133789maxlat=50.8904113769531 Nominatim locates that village in the French Community !!! And nobody seems to care !!! ... Territorialité des langues https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communaut%C3%A9s_de_Belgique#Territorialit.C3.A9_des_langues La Constitution belge a prévu, en son article 4 https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_4_de_la_Constitution_belge, _*quatre *__*régions linguistiques https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9gions_linguistiques_de_Belgique*_ : la région de langue néerlandaise, la région de Bruxelles-Capitale (bilingue français-néerlandais), la région de langue française et la région de langue allemande (la plupart des communes des Cantons de l'Est https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantons_de_l%27Est_%28Belgique%29). Ces quatre zones délimitent les territoires où chaque langue est la langue officielle, avec en plus trente communes situées près des frontières linguistiques où des minorités historiques bénéficient de facilités linguistiques https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facilit%C3%A9s_linguistiques. Les Communautés ne représentent donc pas directement l'ensemble des personnes parlant une des langues officielles, mais les habitants des différentes régions linguistiques. Gemeenschap (België) https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeenschap_%28Belgi%C3%AB%29 Een *gemeenschap* is een /_*persoonsgebonden*_ overheid/ in België https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgi%C3%AB. ... _*Alle Belgen*_ vallen onder een van de volgende drie taalgemeenschappen ... ... Brussel _*Brussel is officieel tweetalig*_, behorend tot zowel de Vlaamse en Franse gemeenschap... The issue seems clear to me, especially in French. We have 3 kinds of persons according to the official language they speak, but we have *4 territories* one of which is bilingual in the sense that their people can choose between two languages. behorend tot zowel is ambiguous: it should made clear that it speaks of the persons and not the territories. But that's obvious. A territory cannot be inside 2 disjoint territories, and that's the problem... As OSM is obviously drawing territories, the communities do not fit in relations, these must contain territories As nobody cares, as I am presently involved in Brussels modifications, and as I know boundaries well, I can do that: - add a 4th territory aka community for Brussels. The only problem is how to name it. The three territories are called: Flemish Community, Communauté flamande, Vlaamse Gemeenschap, Flämische Gemeinschaft French Community, Communauté française, Franse Gemeenschap, Französische Gemeinschaft German-speaking Community, Communauté germanophone, Duitstalige Gemeenschap, Deutschsprachige Gemeinschaft They should normally not be called territories, but I'm not going to start a misunderstood revolution. Brussels' Community? Bilingual Community? I know this is a complex street that starts as Pierstraat in Reet/Rumst in the east ,... I know it's a complex country that starts as Pierstraat in the west, ... :-) Cheers, Cordialement, André. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels
The only problem is how to name it. The three territories are called: Flemish Community, Communauté flamande, Vlaamse Gemeenschap, Flämische Gemeinschaft French Community, Communauté française, Franse Gemeenschap, Französische Gemeinschaft German-speaking Community, Communauté germanophone, Duitstalige Gemeenschap, Deutschsprachige Gemeinschaft They should normally not be called territories, but I'm not going to start a misunderstood revolution. Brussels' Community? Bilingual Community? I think it should be Bilingual Community, because - that border level refers to the languages and Brussels is not (an official one) - it's a neutral description and does not favourite one of the languages as else one of them should be mentioned first. A note could explain that the community is part of both, but is mapped seperatly, because of the limitations of OSM. Regards, Gerard. André Pirard wrote: On 2013-11-13 12:18, Marc Gemis wrote : Can someone please tell me how I can properly tag this POI http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/237662466 ? It's a shop located in the Pierstraat in Reet. The building has an addr:street tag and is part of an associatedStreet relation. However Nominatim (and openlinkmap) places it in the Pierstraat - Matenstraat. Do a look-up for Vero Golf on osm.org http://osm.org Would anyone mind so little? ;-) Brussels: Village Boundary Brussels, Ville de Bruxelles, Brussels-Capital, French Community, Brussels-Capital Region, 1000;1040, Belgium http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=4.33549880981445minlat=50.7964057922363maxlon=4.40201187133789maxlat=50.8904113769531 Nominatim locates that village in the French Community !!! And nobody seems to care !!! ... Territorialité des langues https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communaut%C3%A9s_de_Belgique#Territorialit.C3.A9_des_langues La Constitution belge a prévu, en son article 4 https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_4_de_la_Constitution_belge, quatre régions linguistiques https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9gions_linguistiques_de_Belgique : la région de langue néerlandaise, la région de Bruxelles-Capitale (bilingue français-néerlandais), la région de langue française et la région de langue allemande (la plupart des communes des Cantons de l'Est https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantons_de_l%27Est_%28Belgique%29). Ces quatre zones délimitent les territoires où chaque langue est la langue officielle, avec en plus trente communes situées près des frontières linguistiques où des minorités historiques bénéficient de facilités linguistiques https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facilit%C3%A9s_linguistiques. Les Communautés ne représentent donc pas directement l'ensemble des personnes parlant une des langues officielles, mais les habitants des différentes régions linguistiques. Gemeenschap (België) https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeenschap_%28Belgi%C3%AB%29 Een gemeenschap is een persoonsgebonden overheid in België https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgi%C3%AB. ... Alle Belgen vallen onder een van de volgende drie taalgemeenschappen ... ... Brussel Brussel is officieel tweetalig, behorend tot zowel de Vlaamse en Franse gemeenschap... The issue seems clear to me, especially in French. We have 3 kinds of persons according to the official language they speak, but we have 4 territories one of which is bilingual in the sense that their people can choose between two languages. behorend tot zowel is ambiguous: it should made clear that it speaks of the persons and not the territories. But that's obvious. A territory cannot be inside 2 disjoint territories, and that's the problem... As OSM is obviously drawing territories, the communities do not fit in relations, these must contain territories As nobody cares, as I am presently involved in Brussels modifications, and as I know boundaries well, I can do that: - add a 4th territory aka community for Brussels. The only problem is how to name it. The three territories are called: Flemish Community, Communauté flamande, Vlaamse Gemeenschap, Flämische Gemeinschaft French Community, Communauté française, Franse Gemeenschap, Französische Gemeinschaft German-speaking Community, Communauté germanophone, Duitstalige Gemeenschap, Deutschsprachige Gemeinschaft They should normally not be called territories, but I'm not going to start a misunderstood revolution. Brussels' Community? Bilingual Community? I know this is a complex street that starts as Pierstraat in Reet/Rumst in the east ,... I know it's a complex country that starts as Pierstraat in the west, ... :-) Cheers, Cordialement, André. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels
On Wednesday 13 November 2013 16:27:11 André Pirard wrote: The issue seems clear to me, especially in French. We have 3 kinds of persons according to the official language they speak, but we have *4 territories* one of which is bilingual in the sense that their people can choose between two languages. behorend tot zowel is ambiguous: it should made clear that it speaks of the persons and not the territories. But that's obvious. A territory cannot be inside 2 disjoint territories, and that's the problem... As OSM is obviously drawing territories, the communities do not fit in relations, these must contain territories As nobody cares, as I am presently involved in Brussels modifications, and as I know boundaries well, I can do that: - add a 4th territory aka community for Brussels. Please don't make up names. There's no Brussels community so don't invent one. The one thing I now agree with is getting the communities out of the administrative boundaries, if only to please software that gets its mind blown when it belongs to two entities of the same kind at once. But that seems to have happened anyway already, see http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/78967 . You just have to wait until nominatim has updated its database. Greetings, Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:27 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.comwrote: On 2013-11-13 12:18, Marc Gemis wrote : Can someone please tell me how I can properly tag this POI http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/237662466 ? It's a shop located in the Pierstraat in Reet. The building has an addr:street tag and is part of an associatedStreet relation. However Nominatim (and openlinkmap) places it in the Pierstraat - Matenstraat. Do a look-up for Vero Golf on osm.org Would anyone mind so little? ;-) Because I promised to write some guidelines for the import of AGIV addresses, I want to know what I should write. I also think my problem is more common than yours. By this I mean that it show be obvious to any mapper to tag a POI so that it's address is returned correctly. Maybe Belgium is unique regarding its administrative borders. Although the Germans also have problems with cities such as Hamburg, because it misses an administrative layer (see talk mailing list of the past 2 weeks). And in India they have a problem with their country borders All those problems are important to a group of people, but they are all exceptions to the general rules. So maybe we should just take up all those complaints with the Nominatim developers, because they might not be aware of all those exceptions. m m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 06:12:30PM +0100, Marc Gemis wrote: All those problems are important to a group of people, but they are all exceptions to the general rules. So maybe we should just take up all those complaints with the Nominatim developers, because they might not be aware of all those exceptions. There are already various bugs open with no reaction. It's not because nominatim gets it wrong that we should change something. Kurt ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] WMS for OSM using EPSG:31370 (Lambert 72)
As far as I understand, the main usage of tiles projeted in Lambert72 or Lambert 2008 is to be mixed with data from AGIV or Walloon Regio, which doesn't support 900913 (nor 3857) in their WMS services. We are developping an app today and this is a problem to mix information from Walloon Regio and OSM because the need of projectio. QGIS user doesn't need this, but they are advanced user. We target people who are not GIS user there. Right ? Julien Le 2013-11-12 19:14, Ben Abelshausen a écrit : Hi Kurt, Yes there are always better technical solutions. The idea is to make is easy as possible for data consumers to use our maps, preferably as easy as other competing sources. Having this already setup supporting the correct projection(s) would be a good thing not just for QGIS but other applications are more demanding. In my specific example OpenLayers is used and it is impossible (or hard) to combine layers with different projections. No idea why they stay with the old system, probably because it would require rewriting some things switching now. Regards, Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be [1] Links: -- [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] WMS for OSM using EPSG:31370 (Lambert 72)
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:35 PM, jul...@fastre.info wrote: QGIS user doesn't need this, but they are advanced user. We target people who are not GIS user there. Right ? Exactly, still working on this at the moment. Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Philippines disaster
Hi at http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/350 post disaster satellite imagery has been made available for mapping Tacloban, one of the heaviest hit cities in the Philippines. Your help mapping there is welcome (JOSM experience needed, and please carefully follow the instructions). OSM based maps are being used by (at least) the American Red Cross which means that your mapping might save lives. More info can be found here: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-November/068573.html When task 350 is completed other tasks are available at http://tasks.hotosm.org Johan ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels
I'll agree with that, if it's correctly tagged, we should not change it. But how do we know that it is tagged correctly, if there is no place to see it in action? m On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 06:12:30PM +0100, Marc Gemis wrote: All those problems are important to a group of people, but they are all exceptions to the general rules. So maybe we should just take up all those complaints with the Nominatim developers, because they might not be aware of all those exceptions. There are already various bugs open with no reaction. It's not because nominatim gets it wrong that we should change something. Kurt ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
You will find links to wiki and help.osm.org via the Link help on the top. But in my opinion it is too complicated to click twice. The other way arround why do we need an Export button at such a prominent position? If we really need this it should be moved to the export/share sidebar. The Link to the welcome page could be moved to the welcome window, too. André 2013/11/13 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr: No more links to: - the wiki - the copyright/licence stuff - help.osm.org What about translations ? 2013/11/13 Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com Forwarding to mailing list. -- Forwarded message -- From: christian.pietzsch Date: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 Subject: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website To: RobJN Hi Thanks everyone for their great work. I like the new design. Lot of space for the map itself, clearly structured overall very modern. There is just one thing I always wanted to have at OSM.org. If you search for a town the boundary should be highlighted (like in Wikipedia [maybe without filling]) One thing I noticed is that on wider screens (24) at the sub pages (like about/...) the text and information is only displayed in the middle (huge gray areas to the left and right) Especially the user diaries could be stretched over the whole screen. One more thing...is there going to be a zoom to my location feature? (Maybe this has been discussed before and abandoned because of privacy concerns...sry if I missed it) The test page is only available in English isn't it? Do you still need people to translate it? Regards Christian (Hedaja) Ps.: I had to smile when I saw the sign up page xD ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Christian Quest wrote: No more links to: - the wiki - the copyright/licence stuff - help.osm.org André has already mentioned two of these, and the copyright/licence page is linked both from the attribution on the map and from the About page. Ed ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Exporting capabilities is that makes OSM stand out. this is what we do: we provide data for anyone for every use. It is important to keep the export tab prominent. Me too, I dont like the fact documentation links did disappear from the home page. cant we have a drop down menu with links to the wiki? On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:09 AM, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: You will find links to wiki and help.osm.org via the Link help on the top. But in my opinion it is too complicated to click twice. The other way arround why do we need an Export button at such a prominent position? If we really need this it should be moved to the export/share sidebar. The Link to the welcome page could be moved to the welcome window, too. André 2013/11/13 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr: No more links to: - the wiki - the copyright/licence stuff - help.osm.org What about translations ? 2013/11/13 Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com Forwarding to mailing list. -- Forwarded message -- From: christian.pietzsch Date: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 Subject: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website To: RobJN Hi Thanks everyone for their great work. I like the new design. Lot of space for the map itself, clearly structured overall very modern. There is just one thing I always wanted to have at OSM.org. If you search for a town the boundary should be highlighted (like in Wikipedia [maybe without filling]) One thing I noticed is that on wider screens (24) at the sub pages (like about/...) the text and information is only displayed in the middle (huge gray areas to the left and right) Especially the user diaries could be stretched over the whole screen. One more thing...is there going to be a zoom to my location feature? (Maybe this has been discussed before and abandoned because of privacy concerns...sry if I missed it) The test page is only available in English isn't it? Do you still need people to translate it? Regards Christian (Hedaja) Ps.: I had to smile when I saw the sign up page xD ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
How often is it used? In my opinion newbies think you could export a vector image. Then they find out it is only a xml file with (for the first moment) useless content. I would calll me a long time contributor and never had the need of an xml-export at the front page. If we want to promote this, we need a description page with links to the planet file, country excerpts, small exports (from the osm-server) and to larger exports via the overpass API or overpass turbo page. André 2013/11/13 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: Exporting capabilities is that makes OSM stand out. this is what we do: we provide data for anyone for every use. It is important to keep the export tab prominent. Me too, I dont like the fact documentation links did disappear from the home page. cant we have a drop down menu with links to the wiki? On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:09 AM, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: You will find links to wiki and help.osm.org via the Link help on the top. But in my opinion it is too complicated to click twice. The other way arround why do we need an Export button at such a prominent position? If we really need this it should be moved to the export/share sidebar. The Link to the welcome page could be moved to the welcome window, too. André 2013/11/13 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr: No more links to: - the wiki - the copyright/licence stuff - help.osm.org What about translations ? 2013/11/13 Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com Forwarding to mailing list. -- Forwarded message -- From: christian.pietzsch Date: Tuesday, 12 November 2013 Subject: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website To: RobJN Hi Thanks everyone for their great work. I like the new design. Lot of space for the map itself, clearly structured overall very modern. There is just one thing I always wanted to have at OSM.org. If you search for a town the boundary should be highlighted (like in Wikipedia [maybe without filling]) One thing I noticed is that on wider screens (24) at the sub pages (like about/...) the text and information is only displayed in the middle (huge gray areas to the left and right) Especially the user diaries could be stretched over the whole screen. One more thing...is there going to be a zoom to my location feature? (Maybe this has been discussed before and abandoned because of privacy concerns...sry if I missed it) The test page is only available in English isn't it? Do you still need people to translate it? Regards Christian (Hedaja) Ps.: I had to smile when I saw the sign up page xD ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:52 AM, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: If we want to promote this, we need a description page with links to the planet file, country excerpts, small exports (from the osm-server) and to larger exports via the overpass API or overpass turbo page. good idea. instead of the export, a page that tells people that they can export the data, and not just have the tiles images. -- -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Pros: - the layers tab is smaller vertically. It could be even better by taking off the other maps samples which are unnecessarily overloading the other tiles servers each time someone opens this tab. - looks more modern Cons: - text attributs for the top menus. Fonts are very thin and colours very light, almost transparent. This will be a problem when the site is used in bad conditions (outdoor, sun, small devices) or by visual impaired. - you have two links (About and Learn More) jumping to the same page. In general: - I fully agree that the link to the documentation and licence are essential to the main page. It is not just yet another slippy map with different styles. We have to figure out that the licence terms are explained in the small map link © OpenStreetMap contributors or through the About page. How can we explain that the major difference between OSM and Google Maps is its licence (e.g. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_Map_Maker) ? - in the past, one part of the community said that the slippy map and its default style should be less prominent or even hidden somewhere behind the front page because OSM is mainly a database, not a slippy map project and what is shown is just partial or may lead to tag for the renderers. I did not agree on that. I found the previous situation where the map was on the main page but no so prominent was a good compromise, especially when we see this page as a call for new contributors. But now this trend to put the default slippy map (which is far from perfect) as the major feature of the project is imho a mistake. Improve a bit the default rendered style, add a routing feature and the home page will be the open version of Google Maps services. Is it the final goal of the website ? - the About first sentence is very urban-centric : OSM is built by a community of local mappers that keeps data about roads, cafés, subway stations, and much more up to date every day. . First, many areas in OSM are just empty. It's even not the question to keep data up-to-date like it is in most of the urban cities in OSM but just create data. Second, I'm happy to see that our first example for maintaining data up-to-date are for roads, cafés and ... subway stations. - the community driven section is talking about engineers and HOT team but the average contributor, you know the one who is not an engineer neither a remote armchair mapper in Africa or Asia, is not mentionned even though it is the main part of the community. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Hi, Rob Nickerson schrieb: Please take a minute or two to give it a try – both positive feedback and constructive criticism is welcomed. overall I like the new design. It's cleaner and I have more visible map. However, I also have some smaller notes (and bugs?!). * After search I get the search results. Clicking on a result makes the results disappear (however, a white empty stripe stays) and the map does not jump to the city I searched * When I move and zoom the map I occasionally get a Loading...-text in the textbox, which makes the Welcome...-text bounce up and down. This is annoying. * The color/design of login/signup-buttons is too light so that it looks like they're deactivated. I'd like to have them darker. * Imho there should be a way to remove the Welcome-textbox, too. (Didn't check if it vanishes for registered users) * History mostly always gives No changesets in this area for areas smaller than whole europe Regards, Peda -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
The text OpenStreetMap is a free and editable map of the world maintained by an active community of contributors. has always been on the main page and has never been correct because it repeats one of the main misunderstandings about OSM. Now that this text is the only one on the front page it is time to fix this: OSM is not a map but a database. Rainer ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
What is the goal of the redesign ? Get new active contributors ? Get new users ? Moving the wiki/help/license link away makes me feel we're moving slowly to the second choice which does not look to me as a good idea. I'm expecting the OSM front page to clearly explain that anybody can contribute to the map by improving the data yourself and that all the project is a open project (I dont like the free map, it looks too much as free beer). On the positive side, the new graphical design is really a great improvement, except the not enough contrasted texts (+1 with Pieren about visually impaired people or outdoor situations). 2013/11/13 Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com Christian Quest wrote: No more links to: - the wiki - the copyright/licence stuff - help.osm.org André has already mentioned two of these, and the copyright/licence page is linked both from the attribution on the map and from the About page. Ed -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
+1 ! When I present OSM to local authorities, I usually start with a joke... in OpenStreetMap only one word is right: open street ? whe're not doing only street mapping map ? we're not only making maps Changing OSM's name is way too late, but at least we should have a clear statement about not only streets and not only map(s)... 2013/11/13 rainerU ra...@sfr.fr The text OpenStreetMap is a free and editable map of the world maintained by an active community of contributors. has always been on the main page and has never been correct because it repeats one of the main misunderstandings about OSM. Now that this text is the only one on the front page it is time to fix this: OSM is not a map but a database. Rainer ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
+1. The same reasons. I woluls suggest adding of helpful links with the collection like: wheelmap.org openfiremap.org opensciencemap.org Best, Marek Dnia 13 listopada 2013 12:15 Christian Quest lt;cqu...@openstreetmap.frgt; napisał(a): +1 ! When I present OSM to local authorities, I usually start with a joke... in OpenStreetMap only one word is right: open street ? whe're not doing only street mapping map ? we're not only making maps Changing OSM's name is way too late, but at least we should have a clear statement about not only streets and not only map(s)... 2013/11/13 rainerU lt;ra...@sfr.frgt; The text OpenStreetMap is a free and editable map of the world maintained by an active community of contributors. has always been on the main page and has never been correct because it repeats one of the main misunderstandings about OSM. Now that this text is the only one on the front page it is time to fix this: OSM is not a map but a database. Rainer ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Peter Barth osm-t...@won2.de wrote: * History mostly always gives No changesets in this area for areas smaller than whole europe This is because the test website uses a completely separate database from the main OSM website, except for Nominatim search results and the tiles. So there is no changeset almost everywhere. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
As a rather new user I welcome a modernized start page, as well as better ways of introducing new users. I avoided OSM for long, although being a map-interested geek, due to a site looking out-dated and too steep learning curve not really knowing where to start. Rather than saying it's a database (even Google Maps is a database, presented as a map, although more or less homogenous), maybe add something to describe that there is not ONE map, but the data can be used to produce any kind of map-related data and render maps for different purposes. Refer to the imagination of the visitor. Or why not use the description on the About page: *OpenStreetMap powers map data on hundreds of web sites, mobile apps, and hardware devices*? I agree with others about importance to consult sight-impaired users, removing urban-centred references like subway stations, keeping data up-to-date not being the main agenda, export needing explanation and that a Help link should be more prominent (put it where Export is now and put Export where the Help is now, as Export is not something most people would know how to use anyway). /Daniel 2013/11/13 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Peter Barth osm-t...@won2.de wrote: * History mostly always gives No changesets in this area for areas smaller than whole europe This is because the test website uses a completely separate database from the main OSM website, except for Nominatim search results and the tiles. So there is no changeset almost everywhere. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Personally, I want to congratulate and thank everyone who has put countless hours into this redesign over the last few months. This is a significant improvement over our current homepage and helps with the very serious issue that OSM simply looked *dated*. This is a beautiful, usable site, which is important not just for aesthetics, but also because of the competence it communicates. In addition, it's quite lovely on a mobile browser, which was a pleasant surprise! Great work, everyone. I (we!) really appreciate the work you've done! Cheers, Kathleen On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Daniel Westergren wes...@gmail.com wrote: As a rather new user I welcome a modernized start page, as well as better ways of introducing new users. I avoided OSM for long, although being a map-interested geek, due to a site looking out-dated and too steep learning curve not really knowing where to start. Rather than saying it's a database (even Google Maps is a database, presented as a map, although more or less homogenous), maybe add something to describe that there is not ONE map, but the data can be used to produce any kind of map-related data and render maps for different purposes. Refer to the imagination of the visitor. Or why not use the description on the About page: *OpenStreetMap powers map data on hundreds of web sites, mobile apps, and hardware devices*? I agree with others about importance to consult sight-impaired users, removing urban-centred references like subway stations, keeping data up-to-date not being the main agenda, export needing explanation and that a Help link should be more prominent (put it where Export is now and put Export where the Help is now, as Export is not something most people would know how to use anyway). /Daniel 2013/11/13 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Peter Barth osm-t...@won2.de wrote: * History mostly always gives No changesets in this area for areas smaller than whole europe This is because the test website uses a completely separate database from the main OSM website, except for Nominatim search results and the tiles. So there is no changeset almost everywhere. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Typhoon Haiyan and OpenStreetMap
Hello everyone, The online response to mapping the areas affected by Typhoon Haiyan is very heartwarming. Thank you to everyone involved. Please do continue to map as the data is being used by first responders and relief workers. Most of the information about mapping efforts can be found on the OSM Wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan Here are some choice highlights: 1. HOT's OSM Tasking Manager: http://tasks.hotosm.org/ - This is where most of the mapping efforts are coordinated. There are currently 13 tasks that you can participate in. Almost all tasks are for tracing buildings and roads using available Bing satellite imagery. One is for assessing damage using post-typhoon imagery. 2. The Atlantic - How Online Mapmakers Are Helping the Red Cross Save Lives in the Philippines: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/11/how-online-mapmakers-are-helping-the-red-cross-save-lives-in-the-philippines/281366/ - Feature article explaining how the map data in OSM can help the (American) Red Cross in directing relief effort where it is needed most 3. Changesets map by Pascal Neis: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-typhoon-haiyan-2013/#7/11.502/122.805 - Hourly updated map showing the locations of half of the 8000+ changesets in the affected areas. These changesets were done by 600+ mappers and contain almost 1.3 million changes (versions) to objects. 4. Before and after map: http://pierzen.dev.openstreetmap.org/hot/leaflet/OSM-Compare-before-after-philippines.html - Side-by-side map comparing rendered OSM data from before the typhoon to the current OSM tiles 5. Areal damage overview map of Tacloban: http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/americanredcross.map-ms6tihx6/page.html#14/11.2189/125.0116 - Map by the American Red Cross showing areas damaged in Tacloban. The buildings come from OSM. This map has been used by The New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/11/11/world/asia/typhoon-haiyan-map.html?_r=1; Thanks! Eugene ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Rob Nickerson schrieb: Today the updated design for the main OpenStreetMap.org website is nearly ready to be rolled out. You can view a demo at redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org First of all, the new design looks really nice. And there's a way to get to the search function on a mobile device now! \o/ But I have two points I don't like that much: 1) The Box underneath the search is a distraction once I start looking around on the map, please provide a way to collapse it. 2) One of my main reasons to call up the OSM site is often to get to the wiki, can it be made more swiftly available? It could even be behind a Hamburger button like the search etc. is on mobile (just not requiring another page load). Thanks for all the work! Robert Kaiser ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Hoe restaurants vast te leggen die eten bezorgen in opdracht van Thuisbezorgd.nl ?
Ik ben niet echt voorstander om zulke verzamelingen te gaan mappen in OSM. Je brengt ook niet all tankstations van merk X onder in 1 relatie. Maar als je toch op dit pad wil verder gaan, gebruik dan misschien een relatie type=collection. (Zie taginfo: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/relations ) Er is wel geen wiki documentatie. met vriendelijke groeten m Beste OpenStreetMappers, Sinds vorige week neemt Thuisbezorgd.nl betalingen in Bitcoins aan. Mijn vraag is nu hoe dit vast te leggen in OpenStreetMap? De zaken waar Thuisbezorgd.nl mee samen werkt nemen namelijk, tot zo ver bekend, zelf geen Bitcoins aan. Wanneer een zaak wel Bitcoins aanneemt, leg ik dat vast met sleutel payment:Bitcoin yes. Het lijkt mij dat je een restaurant welke samenwerkt met Thuisbezorgd.nl onderdeel zou moeten maken van de relatie of superrelatie genaamd Thuisbezorgd.nl. En dat deze (super)relatie dan als eigenschap zou moeten hebben dat deze Bitcoin aanneemt. Wanneer ik een relatie aanmaak, kan ik kiezen uit: Route Boundary Restriction Multipolygon relation Dan maak ik een relation aan, maar die lijkt dan als hoofdeigenschap het desbetreffende restaurant te hebben. Terwijl dat dan dus Thuisbezorgd.nl zou moeten zijn. Hier loop ik dus vast. Iemand anders oplossingen hiervoor? -- Met vriendelijke groet, Best regards, Bas de Lange -- ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl End of Talk-nl Digest, Vol 81, Issue 8 ** ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
[OSM-talk-nl] relaties downloaden als gps probleem
Iemand die me kan helpen met het volgende: Ik heb vooral MTB routes als relatie opgevoerd. Via http://mtb.waymarkedtrails.com zijn die te bekijken en er is ook een gpx download mogelijk, ook als je de relatie in de OSM wiki opzoekt. Maar waarom is die track dan helemaal 'gehusselt'? 10 trackdelen en allemaal door elkaar aan mekaar vastgeplakt. (voorbeeld, probeer maar uit)Hoe moet ik de relaties bewerken om een mooie bruikbare gpx export te krijgen? groet, Patrick ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] relaties downloaden als gps probleem
Ik heb even naar deze relatie gekeken met de JOSM relatie editor, en zag dat de wegdelen daar niet netjes op volgorde staan (de editor heeft daar een heel mooi indicatortje voor). Misschien dat dat ook de reden is dat de gpx export niet helemaal goed werkt, groeten, Piet Patrick Coenen schreef op 13-11-2013 13:59: Iemand die me kan helpen met het volgende: Ik heb vooral MTB routes als relatie opgevoerd. Via http://mtb.waymarkedtrails.com http://mtb.waymarkedtrails.org/nl/?zoom=12lat=50.53156lon=6.81125hill=0.5route=0.5#routes zijn die te bekijken en er is ook een gpx download mogelijk, ook als je de relatie in de OSM wiki opzoekt. Maar waarom is die track dan helemaal 'gehusselt'? 10 trackdelen en allemaal door elkaar aan mekaar vastgeplakt. (voorbeeld http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3322634, probeer maar uit) Hoe moet ik de relaties bewerken om een mooie bruikbare gpx export te krijgen? groet, Patrick ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] relaties downloaden als gps probleem
Zou het dan toch die forwards en backwards zijn? Kan ik dat in potlatch, of moet ik die in JOSM zetten? Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:52:46 +0100 From: pjsm...@hetnet.nl To: talk-nl@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] relaties downloaden als gps probleem Ik heb even naar deze relatie gekeken met de JOSM relatie editor, en zag dat de wegdelen daar niet netjes op volgorde staan (de editor heeft daar een heel mooi indicatortje voor). Misschien dat dat ook de reden is dat de gpx export niet helemaal goed werkt, groeten, Piet Patrick Coenen schreef op 13-11-2013 13:59: Iemand die me kan helpen met het volgende: Ik heb vooral MTB routes als relatie opgevoerd. Via http://mtb.waymarkedtrails.com zijn die te bekijken en er is ook een gpx download mogelijk, ook als je de relatie in de OSM wiki opzoekt. Maar waarom is die track dan helemaal 'gehusselt'? 10 trackdelen en allemaal door elkaar aan mekaar vastgeplakt. (voorbeeld, probeer maar uit) Hoe moet ik de relaties bewerken om een mooie bruikbare gpx export te krijgen? groet, Patrick ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] relaties downloaden als gps probleem
Bekend probleem, zie ook http://www.wereldfietser.nl/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3t=20201 Die relatie bestaat verder uit verschillende delen die niet aan elkaar zitten, zie http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation?relationId=3322634noCache=true_noCache=on Patrick Coenen schreef op 13-11-2013 13:59: Iemand die me kan helpen met het volgende: Ik heb vooral MTB routes als relatie opgevoerd. Via http://mtb.waymarkedtrails.com zijn die te bekijken en er is ook een gpx download mogelijk, ook als je de relatie in de OSM wiki opzoekt. Maar waarom is die track dan helemaal 'gehusselt'? 10 trackdelen en allemaal door elkaar aan mekaar vastgeplakt. ( voorbeeld , probeer maar uit) Hoe moet ik de relaties bewerken om een mooie bruikbare gpx export te krijgen? groet, Patrick ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] relaties downloaden als gps probleem
Damn! da's een mooi tooltje! ik leer iedere keer weer nieuwe dingen. thanks voor die link Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 15:32:42 +0100 From: ligfiet...@online.nl To: talk-nl@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] relaties downloaden als gps probleem Bekend probleem, zie ook http://www.wereldfietser.nl/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=3t=20201 Die relatie bestaat verder uit verschillende delen die niet aan elkaar zitten, zie http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation?relationId=3322634noCache=true_noCache=on Patrick Coenen schreef op 13-11-2013 13:59: Iemand die me kan helpen met het volgende: Ik heb vooral MTB routes als relatie opgevoerd. Via http://mtb.waymarkedtrails.com zijn die te bekijken en er is ook een gpx download mogelijk, ook als je de relatie in de OSM wiki opzoekt. Maar waarom is die track dan helemaal 'gehusselt'? 10 trackdelen en allemaal door elkaar aan mekaar vastgeplakt. ( voorbeeld , probeer maar uit) Hoe moet ik de relaties bewerken om een mooie bruikbare gpx export te krijgen? groet, Patrick ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] relaties downloaden als gps probleem
Kan je ook in Potlatch herstellen. Kijk vooral naar de gaten in het netwerk, zie http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeMap?relationId=3322634 (blauwe pois) Zou het dan toch die forwards en backwards zijn? Kan ik dat in potlatch, of moet ik die in JOSM zetten? ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] relaties downloaden als gps probleem
Ben ook op het probleem gestuit: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=21324 Is al weer een poosje terug. In de tussentijd heb ik inderdaad een algoritme bedacht en uitgewerkt in Javascript dat het een beetje beter doet dan Waymarked Trails. Het is niet zo moeilijk om ways om te keren en aan elkaar te knopen. Maar als er gaten zijn, of fouten, dan kan het algoritme dit niet oplossen. Het gaat bijvoorbeeld fout op rotondes. Ik denk dat iemand die echt goed is in de materie en in javascript daar wel iets voor kan bedenken. Als jullie geïnteresseerd zijn in mijn oplossing, kan ik de code online zetten. Het is wel enigszins complex. Minko schreef op 2013-11-13 15:38: Kan je ook in Potlatch herstellen. Kijk vooral naar de gaten in het netwerk, zie http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeMap?relationId=3322634 [1](blauwe pois) Zou het dan toch die forwards en backwards zijn? Kan ik dat in potlatch, of moet ik die in JOSM zetten? ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl [2] Links: -- [1] http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeMap?relationId=3322634 [2] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
[talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps
Just a heads up that GA have a tile service for their NATMAP 250K Topo Maps. So if you add this to JOSM/etc you can use this as a base layer to derive information from. http://www.ga.gov.au/gisimg/rest/services/topography/NATMAP_Digital_Maps_250K_2008Ed ition_WM/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x} The map is CC BY 3.0 AU as per http://www.ga.gov.au/topographic-mapping/digital-topographic-maps/using-attributing-products.html However as per the contributor terms I don't believe OSM allows one to derive information from CC BY works and include this in OSM (https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/624/can-i-use-or-trace-from-cc-by-data-under-the-new-contributor-terms but) and attach the attribution to the feature as per the usual methods, unless you requst some kind of special license above and beyond what GA already grant via the CC license. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps
Interesting Andrew. Do you know much about this service ? I have been trying to display it in FoxtrotGPS which normally uses OSM or Google tiles. But I find two puzzling things - 1. While I request png files I seem to get JPEG 2. Their Y and X number system seems to be miles away from where I'd expect it to be. I need to browse to somewhere in Antarctica, south of Africa before I could get any (Aussie) tiles back. I used to understand the numbering system, sigh, better get my old notes out.. Anyway, Foxtrot is quite confused, does display tiles but somehow in the wrong order, interesting ! David David On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 19:13 +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: Just a heads up that GA have a tile service for their NATMAP 250K Topo Maps. So if you add this to JOSM/etc you can use this as a base layer to derive information from. http://www.ga.gov.au/gisimg/rest/services/topography/NATMAP_Digital_Maps_250K_2008Ed ition_WM/MapServer/tile/{zoom}/{y}/{x} The map is CC BY 3.0 AU as per http://www.ga.gov.au/topographic-mapping/digital-topographic-maps/using-attributing-products.html However as per the contributor terms I don't believe OSM allows one to derive information from CC BY works and include this in OSM (https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/624/can-i-use-or-trace-from-cc-by-data-under-the-new-contributor-terms but) and attach the attribution to the feature as per the usual methods, unless you requst some kind of special license above and beyond what GA already grant via the CC license. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps
On 13 November 2013 22:01, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: Interesting Andrew. Do you know much about this service ? I know that they also publish the original ECW files, which I originally converted to JPEG and hosted on my own server as a service which converted these into web map tiles, until I found that GA already have such a service! GA are using ArcGIS Server to serve the tiles, but they do conform to the same specification as OSM tiles. 1. While I request png files I seem to get JPEG I don't think they serve PNG files, only JPEG. 2. Their Y and X number system seems to be miles away from where I'd expect it to be. I need to browse to somewhere in Antarctica, south of Africa before I could get any (Aussie) tiles back. I used to understand the numbering system, sigh, better get my old notes out.. Anyway, Foxtrot is quite confused, does display tiles but somehow in the wrong order, interesting ! Make sure you are using z/y/x and NOT z/x/y (so it is different to OSM tiles) otherwise it will look like one of those puzzles. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps
Ah, z/y/x ? that makes sense. FoxtrotGPS does not do z/y/x. Just what I'd expect from GA, worked with them indirectly some time ago. Another life. I also played with pulling png tiles out of the GA ECW maps but gave up dealing with their website, they made endless changes that broke firefox each time. Got sick of explaining to their tech (??) people that I found it difficult to run Internet Explorer under linux. (So even then they were not keen on open standards !) Then the license holder withdrew the ecw plugin for GDAL... Anyway, this new GA tile server still sounds cool, will have to look into what can be done. Thanks for your help. David On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 22:20 +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: On 13 November 2013 22:01, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: Interesting Andrew. Do you know much about this service ? I know that they also publish the original ECW files, which I originally converted to JPEG and hosted on my own server as a service which converted these into web map tiles, until I found that GA already have such a service! GA are using ArcGIS Server to serve the tiles, but they do conform to the same specification as OSM tiles. 1. While I request png files I seem to get JPEG I don't think they serve PNG files, only JPEG. 2. Their Y and X number system seems to be miles away from where I'd expect it to be. I need to browse to somewhere in Antarctica, south of Africa before I could get any (Aussie) tiles back. I used to understand the numbering system, sigh, better get my old notes out.. Anyway, Foxtrot is quite confused, does display tiles but somehow in the wrong order, interesting ! Make sure you are using z/y/x and NOT z/x/y (so it is different to OSM tiles) otherwise it will look like one of those puzzles. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps
From: David Bannon [mailto:dban...@internode.on.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps Then the license holder withdrew the ecw plugin for GDAL... There's still an ECW plugin for GDAL. It requires the third-party SDK and you'll have to compile gdal yourself, which is annoying. Creating ECW files is what takes purchasing a license. If there's ECW files where it would be beneficial to host them, I could do or someone else could. We'd have to get confirmation that data source was happy with attribution in accordance with ODbL sections 4.2 and 4.3 which are keep intact any copyright or Database Right notices or a notice associated with the Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware that Content was obtained from the [the datasource] ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[Talk-br] Fwd: Porto Alegre lançou portal de open data
Para os interessados da região de Porto Alegre, o novo portal de open data do município tem diversas informações que podem ser importadas no OSM. -- Forwarded message -- From: Claiton Neisse claiton.nei...@gmail.com Date: 2013/11/13 Subject: [Talk-br] Porto Alegre lançou portal de open data To: OSM talk-br talk-br@openstreetmap.org A cidade de Porto Alegre lançou hoje um beta do portal de open data do município: http://datapoa.com.br/ Atenciosamente, Claiton Neisse ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-br] Mapas turísticos baseados no OSM
Que legal esse http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Use-it/Map_of_Copenhagen_for_Young_Travellers, gostei do manual. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Use-it/Map_of_Copenhagen_for_Young_Travellers Uso o Inkscape e tava com a ideia de usar um processo parecido, mas manualmente... gostei dessa ideia, é bem isso - a intenção é fazer algo do tipo. Muito legal esse trabalho. *Edil Queiroz de Araujo* Projeto RGM - Ribeirão Grande em Mapashttp://projetorgmsp.blogspot.com.br/ ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Mapas turísticos baseados no OSM
Achei legal demais também, até já gerei um mapa da UFMG seguindo o roteiro. No exemplo usa o osmarender, mas na página do projeto diz que o desenvolvimento do osmarender parou. Alguém sabe qual seria o aplicativo mais recomendado no lugar do osmarender? Às vezes a wiki do OSM parece um cemitério de projetos abandonados :( abraço Gerald 2013/11/13 Edil Queiroz de Araujo edil...@gmail.com Que legal esse http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Use-it/Map_of_Copenhagen_for_Young_Travellers, gostei do manual. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Use-it/Map_of_Copenhagen_for_Young_Travellers Uso o Inkscape e tava com a ideia de usar um processo parecido, mas manualmente... gostei dessa ideia, é bem isso - a intenção é fazer algo do tipo. Muito legal esse trabalho. *Edil Queiroz de Araujo* Projeto RGM - Ribeirão Grande em Mapashttp://projetorgmsp.blogspot.com.br/ ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-br] Mapas turísticos baseados no OSM
Eu uso Mapnik, ele está ativo e tem muita gente usando. http://mapnik.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik https://github.com/mapnik/mapnik ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Fwd: Porto Alegre lançou portal de open data
Aqui vai uma pergunta: em princípio dados disponibilizados sob a licença CC-BY ou coisa moralmente similar só devem ser importados depois de termos certeza que as possibilidades um pouco limitadas do OSM de fazer a atribuição de autoria são considerados suficientes pelo autor dos dados. Neste caso do datapoa, em que a licença é ODbL, estamos na mesma situação, não estamos? Ou existe algum detalhe tecnico que diferencia o caso CC-BY do caso ODbL? Abrindo um parêntesis, a prefeitura de Porto Alegre encomentou um aerolevantamento da cidade recentemente. Eu descobri que eles estão estudando disponibilizá-lo de forma restrita, talvez mediante pagamento. Tem gente na prefeitura que entende que o aerolevantamento não é uma informação que possa ser obtida via Lei de Acesso à Informação. Esse ponto de vista está certamente equivocado (se procurares a LAI, ela define informação de forma bem ampla). Se alguém estiver interessado em brincar de gladiador legal, eu tenho uma sugestão: solicitar todos os dados do aerolevantamento à prefeitura; se eles negarem sob esse argumento de que não é informação, tem-se um ótimo contra-arugmento para usar em um recurso. Eles poderiam negar o acesso sob outras alegações, tipo segredo industrial ou segurança; para esses casos também não seria difícil contra-argumentar. Posso repassar uns documentos que obtive sobre o tema se alguém tiver interesse. Outra coisa que legal de tentar obter da prefeitura seria o contorno das edificações e endereçamento atômico. Talvez se conseguíssemos contatar alguém do datapoa.com sensível ao nosso ponto de vista, seria uma chance de fazer a coisa ir para frente. On 11/13/2013 07:13 AM, Fernando Trebien wrote: Para os interessados da região de Porto Alegre, o novo portal de open data do município tem diversas informações que podem ser importadas no OSM. -- Forwarded message -- From: *Claiton Neisse* claiton.nei...@gmail.com mailto:claiton.nei...@gmail.com Date: 2013/11/13 Subject: [Talk-br] Porto Alegre lançou portal de open data To: OSM talk-br talk-br@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk-br@openstreetmap.org A cidade de Porto Alegre lançou hoje um beta do portal de open data do município: http://datapoa.com.br/ Atenciosamente, Claiton Neisse ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software halves every 18 months. (Gates' law) ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Mapas turísticos baseados no OSM
Obrigado, não sei porque não pensei nisto [?] abraço Gerald On 13 November 2013 11:38, Tácio Fernandes taciofernan...@gmail.com wrote: Eu uso Mapnik, ele está ativo e tem muita gente usando. http://mapnik.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik https://github.com/mapnik/mapnik 361.gif___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-br] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Para quem não acompanha a lista internacional, está se planejando um redesign da página inicial do projeto, e o autor espera sugestões e críticas construtivas. []s -- Forwarded message -- From: Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:05 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website To: OpenStreetMap t...@openstreetmap.org (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) Hi All, Today the updated design for the main OpenStreetMap.org website is nearly ready to be rolled out. You can view a demo at redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org and you can read about the latest changes on the “pull request” at: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/498#issuecomment-28309700 This is the cumulation of many months of work starting with Saman's presentation at State of the Map US 2013. Obviously I realise that not everyone has the time to search for all the background in the mailing lists and github pull request so to help I have collated the video and slides from both SotM US 2013 and SotM 2013 at http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/upcoming-changes-openstreetmaporg-website/ Please take a minute or two to give it a try – both positive feedback and constructive criticism is welcomed. Regards, RobJN Final acceptance is by the OpenStreetMap Foundation and it's Working Groups. The work of the Foundation and the Working Groups is explained at: http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/work-openstreetmap-foundation/ ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-de] GPS - Networked Transport of RTCM via Internet Protocol
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 06:53:56PM +0100, Markus wrote: Liebe GPS-Spezialisten, kennt sich jemand damit aus: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Networked_Transport_of_RTCM_via_Internet_Protocol (soll Genauigkeiten im 10cm-Bereich ermöglichen) http://www.sapos.de/ Z.b. - Von den Landesvermessungsämtern - Finanziert durch Steuergelder - Nur gegen Einwurf weiterer Münzen zugänglich. http://www.zentrale-stelle-sapos.de/SAPOS_Prospekt.pdf Je Minute 10 € Cent Am spannensten finde ich eigentlich das hier: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Aided_Satellite_Navigation_Technique UKW/RDS empfänger gibts als Single-Chip lösungen und tendentiell können das sogar die Smartphones selber - so das das Thema RTCM Daten zum GPS Empfänger bekommen gelöst wäre ... Leider alles eingestellt ... Und als Grass-Roots Lösung nicht so einfach. Es gibt ja die Regionalradios mit denen man zusammen vielleicht was machen könnte - Platz im RDS sollte immer sein. Aber die Ausstattung die man braucht ist vielleicht ein wenig teuer. und kann die praktische Relavanz für's Mappen erklären? Keine - genauigkeit heutiger GPS Empänger ist bis auf einige Sonderfälle (Grosse Häuserschluchten - belaubte Wälder - Alpen) völlig ausreichend. Das Problem ist eher das beim mappen der Kopf nicht benutzt wird. Ich sehe ganz häufig Straßen - 200m lang - Kerzengrade - und es gibt mapper die Stumpf alle 2m einen Node setzen und da ein Zick-Zack muster reinbasteln. Straße ist Kerzengerade - also reichen 2 nodes am Anfang und am Ende ... Kopf benutzen ist mehr Wert als Geld für GPS Empfänger und Antennen auszugeben. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] GPS - Networked Transport of RTCM via Internet Protocol
Hallo Simon, Wenn du ein GPS Gerat mit Rohdatenausgabe hast Habe ich mal hier eingetragen: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Genauigkeit_von_GPS-Daten#Nachträgliche_Korrektur_durch_Ntrip Welches Einkanal-Consumer-Gerät gibt Rohdaten aus? Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Zeitungsartikel - PR Material - Hausnummern
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Dietmar wrote: Hallo Alexander, Am 12.11.2013 23:33, schrieb Alexander Lehner: Servus - wir haben von der Stadt Landshut Hausnummern erhalten und die mit ein paar kleinen Auflagen in OSM uebernehmen duerfen. Wenn Du mir die Hausnummernliste zusendet, kann ich Passau mit aufnehmen in die Hausnummernauswertung [1]. Ah ja, sehr schoen! So etwas in der Art haben wir auch gebastelt, nur nicht so huebsch ;) Nur ist es so, dass wir (zumindest zu Beginn des Projektes) angehalten wurden, die Rohdaten nicht zu veroeffentlichen. Die Information darin duerfen wir aber wiederum nach ODBL fuer OSM zur Verfuegung stellen. Um damit die Frage von Dirk vorhin zu beantworten. Also aehnliches Prinzip wie bei bing abzeichnen. D.h. wir haben manuell die Hausnummern an die Gebaeude uebertragen, was eh mehr Sinn macht weil man dann nochmal eine manuelle Ueberpruefung dazwischen hat. In Passau wird das genauso gehandhabt. Ich kann aber nochmal nachfragen, ob Landshut die Rohdaten nicht fuer Deine Auswertung zur Verfuegung stellen kann. Alex. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] GPS - Networked Transport of RTCM via Internet Protocol
Hi, Markus schrieb: Welches Einkanal-Consumer-Gerät gibt Rohdaten aus? Ich hab mir 2 Navilock NL-402U gekauft. Darauf eine gepatchte Firmware gespielt (u-blox5 chips liefern nicht per default Rohdaten, können das aber) und dann lief das auch mit den Rohdaten. (Im übrigen läuft sowohl u-center als auch rtklib problemlos mit wine ;)). Gruß, Peda -- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wanderkarten von Russland
Am 06.11.2013 19:36, schrieb Subidux: Vielleicht weiß ja jemand wo man solche Karten her bekommt, oder ob es einen Anbieter giebt, der OSM-Karten druckt oder wie man das möglichst einfach, im Maststab 1:125000, selber machen kann. Der User JBacc hat einen Topo-Stil für Maperitive entwickelt, der allerdings auf 1:25.000 optimiert ist: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:JBacc ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Visualisierung und Simulation von Geodaten! DRINGEND!
Guten Tag, ich wende mich mit folgendem Anliegen an die OSM-Community: Für ein spannendes Projekt im Raum Koblenz suchen wir dringend einen Mitarbbeiter auf freiberuflicher Basis oder in Festanstellung für die Simulation bzw. Visualisierung von Geodaten. Das Projekt dauert vorerst 18 Monate, mit Aussicht auf Verlängerung. Hier die genaue Tätigkeitsbeschreibung: Terrain-Datenbases: * Quelldatenbearbeitung mit ArcMap und ERDAS Imagine * Airfielderstellung mit CnAirG, AdaptiveBuild Multigen Creator sowie der Airfield-Libraries mit der INDRA-Software * Texturerstellung mit Adobe Photoshop * Erstellung und Verifikation von Visual-Datenbasen mit LITHOS * Erstellung von Radar-, NAVAIDS-, Prinipal-Feature-, GPWS-, SE Terrain-DBs mit interner Software von der Fa. INDRA * Erstellung von IOS/LPSG-Maps mit MapLink-Studio * Erstellen von ASTA-Datenbanken (Aircrew Synthetic Training Aids) Model-Datenbases: * Erstellung von 3D-Modellen mit Multigen-Creator * Erstellung von Modelperformance EW-Modellen mit der INDRA-Software TOOLS: * Generieung von ASTA-Databases * ArcMap * ERDAS Imagine * CnAirG * AdaptiveBuild Multigen Creator * Airfield Libraries * INDRA-Software * LITHOS * NAVAIDS Dabei ist die Beherrschung der Software nicht Vorraussetzung. Eine längere Einarbeitungszeit ist vorgesehen. Wichtig ist nur Erfahrung in der Bearbeitung von Geodaten und speziell in der Visualisierung. Wenn Interesse besteht, bitte ich um Kontaktaufnahme. Ich bin sowohl per Email als auch per Telefon erreichbar. Bitte schicken Sie dieses Angebot auch weiter, wenn Sie weitere Adressaten kennen für die dieses Angebot von Interesse sein könnte! Vielen Dank im Voraus!! Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Best regards, ANGELIKA STAUFFER Personalreferentin Recruiting | Professionals IPS GMBH Otto-Lilienthal-Straße 6 | 28199 Bremen fon +49 421 536 88 591 | fax +49 421 596 09 591 angelika.stauf...@ips-bremen.de | http://www.ips-bremen.de http://www.ips-bremen.de JOIN US ON [Xing] https://www.xing.com/profile/Angelika_Stauffer [Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/ipsbremen [Twitter] https://twitter.com/IPSBremen WEIHNACHTEN KOMMT SCHNELLER ALS MAN DENKT! Bleiben Sie trotzdem entspannt - Mit individuellen Weihnachtsgrüßen und originellen Geschenkideen vom ITN Weihnachtsservice. http://www.itn-bremen.de/content.php?pid=startseite/weihnachten.php Bei uns buchen Sie auch passende Räumlichkeiten für Jahresabschlussfeiern, Meetings und Mitarbeiteransprachen. Rechnungsanschrift: IPS GmbH | Otto-Lilienthal-Straße 6 | D-28199 Bremen Lieferanschrift: IPS GmbH | Georg-Wulf-Straße 13 | D-28199 Bremen Geschäftsführer: Subhash Chopra | Amtsgericht Bremen | HRB Nr. 12450 USt.-ID-Nr.: DE114417104 | Steuer-Nr.: 460 118 06226 IPS Vertriebsgesellschaft für innovative EDV-Produkte und -Systeme mbH Diese E-Mail enthält vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, infor- mieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] GPS - Networked Transport of RTCM via Internet Protocol
Am 13/nov/2013 um 11:03 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Kopf benutzen ist mehr Wert als Geld für GPS Empfänger und Antennen auszugeben. +1, Wenn da schon was in OSM drin ist sollte man auch immer die relativen Bezüge berücksichtigen (z.B. Straßenseite oder Häuserfluchten, bzw. allgemein die relative Lage der Dinge zueinander, das ist viel wichtiger als die absolute Lagegenauigkeit) Gruß, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Visualisierung und Simulation von Geodaten! DRINGEND!
Sehr geehrte Frau Stauffer, da diese Mail absolut nichts mit OSM zu tun hat, haben Sie sie offenbar an die falsche Adresse geschickt. Gemäß Ihrem Disclaimer am Ende der Mail (Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail.) bin ich so nett und sage Ihnen hiermit Bescheid und werde die Mail jetzt vernichten. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jochen Topf On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 01:42:43PM +0100, Angelika Stauffer wrote: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:42:43 +0100 (CET) From: Angelika Stauffer angelika.stauf...@ips-bremen.de To: talk-de@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-de] Visualisierung und Simulation von Geodaten! DRINGEND! Guten Tag, ich wende mich mit folgendem Anliegen an die OSM-Community: Für ein spannendes Projekt im Raum Koblenz suchen wir dringend einen Mitarbbeiter auf freiberuflicher Basis oder in Festanstellung für die Simulation bzw. Visualisierung von Geodaten. Das Projekt dauert vorerst 18 Monate, mit Aussicht auf Verlängerung. Hier die genaue Tätigkeitsbeschreibung: Terrain-Datenbases: * Quelldatenbearbeitung mit ArcMap und ERDAS Imagine * Airfielderstellung mit CnAirG, AdaptiveBuild Multigen Creator sowie der Airfield-Libraries mit der INDRA-Software * Texturerstellung mit Adobe Photoshop * Erstellung und Verifikation von Visual-Datenbasen mit LITHOS * Erstellung von Radar-, NAVAIDS-, Prinipal-Feature-, GPWS-, SE Terrain-DBs mit interner Software von der Fa. INDRA * Erstellung von IOS/LPSG-Maps mit MapLink-Studio * Erstellen von ASTA-Datenbanken (Aircrew Synthetic Training Aids) Model-Datenbases: * Erstellung von 3D-Modellen mit Multigen-Creator * Erstellung von Modelperformance EW-Modellen mit der INDRA-Software TOOLS: * Generieung von ASTA-Databases * ArcMap * ERDAS Imagine * CnAirG * AdaptiveBuild Multigen Creator * Airfield Libraries * INDRA-Software * LITHOS * NAVAIDS Dabei ist die Beherrschung der Software nicht Vorraussetzung. Eine längere Einarbeitungszeit ist vorgesehen. Wichtig ist nur Erfahrung in der Bearbeitung von Geodaten und speziell in der Visualisierung. Wenn Interesse besteht, bitte ich um Kontaktaufnahme. Ich bin sowohl per Email als auch per Telefon erreichbar. Bitte schicken Sie dieses Angebot auch weiter, wenn Sie weitere Adressaten kennen für die dieses Angebot von Interesse sein könnte! Vielen Dank im Voraus!! Mit freundlichen Grüßen | Best regards, ANGELIKA STAUFFER Personalreferentin Recruiting | Professionals IPS GMBH Otto-Lilienthal-Straße 6 | 28199 Bremen fon +49 421 536 88 591 | fax +49 421 596 09 591 angelika.stauf...@ips-bremen.de | http://www.ips-bremen.de http://www.ips-bremen.de JOIN US ON [Xing] https://www.xing.com/profile/Angelika_Stauffer [Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/ipsbremen [Twitter] https://twitter.com/IPSBremen WEIHNACHTEN KOMMT SCHNELLER ALS MAN DENKT! Bleiben Sie trotzdem entspannt - Mit individuellen Weihnachtsgrüßen und originellen Geschenkideen vom ITN Weihnachtsservice. http://www.itn-bremen.de/content.php?pid=startseite/weihnachten.php Bei uns buchen Sie auch passende Räumlichkeiten für Jahresabschlussfeiern, Meetings und Mitarbeiteransprachen. Rechnungsanschrift: IPS GmbH | Otto-Lilienthal-Straße 6 | D-28199 Bremen Lieferanschrift: IPS GmbH | Georg-Wulf-Straße 13 | D-28199 Bremen Geschäftsführer: Subhash Chopra | Amtsgericht Bremen | HRB Nr. 12450 USt.-ID-Nr.: DE114417104 | Steuer-Nr.: 460 118 06226 IPS Vertriebsgesellschaft für innovative EDV-Produkte und -Systeme mbH Diese E-Mail enthält vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, infor- mieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.jochentopf.com/ +49-721-388298 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Visualisierung und Simulation von Geodaten! DRINGEND!
Jochen Topf schrieb: offenbar an die falsche Adresse geschickt. Ist das nicht schon die zweite Jobsuche-Spammail binnen weniger Tage? Grüße, Dirk -- Local time :: Ortszeit :: DE-HH 2013-11-13T15:46:30+0100 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
On 11.11.2013 11:58, Sven Geggus wrote: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: es sieht so aus, als gäbe es einen Pull-Request der im vorliegenden Fall dazu führen würde, dass der Quadrat-Name wieder gerendert würde Hier reden wir doch über Blöcke und nicht Quatiere die auch mal aus mehr als einem Carre bestehen können Bist Du sicher? Das hier https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/28/files bezieht sich IMO nur auf punktuelle Objekte, die mit [place] = 'neighbourhood' getaggt wurden aber eben nicht auf Flächen. Neighbourhood halte ich ungeeignet. Wobei ich selbst bei admin_level=10 am Grübeln bin, wenn suburb schon admin_level=9 ist brauche ich für 10 wohl doch place=quater Allerdings kenne ich mich mit Carto nicht aus und habe daher keine Ahnung wo jetzt genau festgelegt wird auf welche Tabelle sich das bezieht. Im alten Stil beziehen sich diese Sachen jedenfalls nicht auf Flächen. Flächen ist noch ein eigenes Thema. cu fly ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] JOSM-Preset
On 11.11.2013 14:04, Markus wrote: Wer kennt sich mit der Erstellung von JOSM-Presets aus, und kann einer netten Taucherin helfen? (Sprachversionen und Icons einbinden) Ich habe hier eine Anfrage per PM :-) (deutsch) Ich würde dann den Kontakt herstellen... Bin ja nicht sicher, ob sowas unbedingt persönlich ablaufen muß, zumal xml Dateien ja auch nur Text sind. Warum nicht über diese Liste, dann ist es auch möglich später darauf zu verweisen. Steh trotzdem zu Verfügung. Soll die Vorlage denn veröffentlicht werden ? dann bittet sich zB das JOSM-Trac an. Vielleicht sollte das ein oder andere auch direkt in JOSM integriert werden. Grüße fly ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
On 11.11.2013 11:54, Dirk Sohler wrote: Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: wobei noch die Frage offen bleibt, ob place=neighbourhood ein guter Tag ist, um diese Quadrate zu beschreiben, oder ob ggf. ein anderer Tag mehr Sinn machen würde, evtl. etwas spezifisches für Mannheim. Was spräche gegen z.B. ref:block=* als Tag? Damit könnte man dann nicht nur die Mannheimer Quadrate (die ja auch irgendwie als Straßenblock ansehbar sind) taggen, sondern auch exakt bezeichnete Blöcke in anderen Städten. Oder falls das nicht erwünscht ist, weil Mannheim die einzige Stadt der Welt ist, wo Straßenblöcke genau bezeichnet sind (was ich mir nicht vorstellen kann, aber nehmen wir das mal an *g*), böte sich halt analog zum bereits vorhandenen Tag ref:svhl=* (Stationsschlüssel des Lübecker Stadtverkehrs) zum Beispiel ref:mannheim_squares=* (o.Ä.) als spezifischen Mannheimer-Quadrate-Tag an. So was ist doch wohl eher ein Thread für tagging@osm, da dieses System in Europa sehr ungewöhlich in zB. Japan aber der Standard ist. Siehe: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.tagging/9926 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.tagging/14885 Allerdings ist weder addr:block noch addr:block_number bisher häufig und place=block gibt es auch nur etwas mehr als 10³. cu fly ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mannheim - Quadratenamen in Mapnik verschwunden
Hi Am 11.11.2013 10:21, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Was jedenfalls den Pull-Request angeht so ist der wohl erstmal vertagt: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/28 Wenn man auf die dringlichkeit für die Mannheimer hinweisen würde, könnte man bestimmt eine schnellere Reaktion erwirken. Ich bin mir aber, wie unten geschildert, nicht sicher ob der PullReq wirklich das hier genannte Problem lösen würde. Lg ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wochennotiz Nr. 173 5.11.-11.11.2013
Danke für eure tolle Arbeit! Gruß Malte Am 12.11.2013 23:02, schrieb wn reader: Hallo, die Wochennotiz Nr. 173 mit allen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap Welt ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2013/11/wochennotiz-nr-173/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] AMAT e OpenStreetMap
Bellissima notizia, molto interessante sul serio . Se posso faccio un salto da Torino ... +1 Cesare Cesare Gerbino http://cesaregerbino.wordpress.com/ http://www.facebook.com/cesare.gerbino http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cesare-Gerbino-GIS-Blog/246234455498174?ref=hl https://twitter.com/CesareGerbino http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cesare-gerbino/56/494/77b Il giorno 12 novembre 2013 16:43, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: Ciao, vi scrivo per raccontarvi che AMAT http://www.amat-mi.it/ Agenzia Mobilità Ambiente e Territorio di Milano, società in-house del Comune di Milano che si occupa principalmente di dati, cartografia e pianificazione territoriale ha deciso di partecipare al progetto OpenStreetMap in maniera diretta. L'obiettivo è quello di apportare modifiche al grafo stradale OpenStreetMap di Milano completandolo dei dati mancanti relativi ad esempio ai nomi delle stade, percorsi dei mezzi pubblici, restrizioni di svolta e altro. Dipendenti e collaboratori esterni lavoreranno, tramite strumenti del mondo OSM (JOSM), ad integrare i dati mancanti direttamente nella base dati OSM, che poi verrà utilizzata internamente per studi e prodotti che verranno rilasciati, a loro volta, alla popolazione. Il tutto per andare a migliorare la qualità dei dati messi a disposizione agli utenti (privati, pubblici, aziende, etc.) anche visto l'avvicinarsi dell'evento EXPO 2015. Si tratta, secondo me, del primo caso di collaborazione a questo livello tra la P.A. e la comunità opendata italiana. Se non si tratta di un cinque stelle dell'opendata, poco ci manca. Questo intervento ha già avuto inizio per quanto concerne la fase di studio e proseguirà, da oggi in poi, in una fase pratica, di editing. In quest'ottica, AMAT desidera conoscere ed entrare in contatto con la comunità Milanese di OSM. Propongo un primo incontro informalissimo durante l'aperitivo di AperiSOD il prossimo giovedì sera http://www.paninomilano.com/ Sotto il palazzo di Regione Lombardia (Milano) alle 19:00. Che ne pensate? A me sembra una ottima occasione per costruire qualcosa di bello insieme ad una PA attenta. Venite? Mi è stato chiesto di aiutare AMAT a dare visibilità dell'intervento all'interno della community OSM e aiutarli a capire dinamiche e criticità della stessa. Grazie, Simone. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] AMAT e OpenStreetMap
abbiamo scelto di parlarne ad un aperitivo a cui comunque sarei andato, perche' non ci sarà niente di organizzato niente slide o altro. Valutato l'interesse dei mapper locali, si deciderà come organizzare i prossimi incontri a milano 2013/11/13 cesare gerbino cesaregerb...@gmail.com: Bellissima notizia, molto interessante sul serio . Se posso faccio un salto da Torino ... +1 Cesare Cesare Gerbino http://cesaregerbino.wordpress.com/ http://www.facebook.com/cesare.gerbino http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cesare-Gerbino-GIS-Blog/246234455498174?ref=hl https://twitter.com/CesareGerbino http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cesare-gerbino/56/494/77b Il giorno 12 novembre 2013 16:43, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: Ciao, vi scrivo per raccontarvi che AMAT http://www.amat-mi.it/ Agenzia Mobilità Ambiente e Territorio di Milano, società in-house del Comune di Milano che si occupa principalmente di dati, cartografia e pianificazione territoriale ha deciso di partecipare al progetto OpenStreetMap in maniera diretta. L'obiettivo è quello di apportare modifiche al grafo stradale OpenStreetMap di Milano completandolo dei dati mancanti relativi ad esempio ai nomi delle stade, percorsi dei mezzi pubblici, restrizioni di svolta e altro. Dipendenti e collaboratori esterni lavoreranno, tramite strumenti del mondo OSM (JOSM), ad integrare i dati mancanti direttamente nella base dati OSM, che poi verrà utilizzata internamente per studi e prodotti che verranno rilasciati, a loro volta, alla popolazione. Il tutto per andare a migliorare la qualità dei dati messi a disposizione agli utenti (privati, pubblici, aziende, etc.) anche visto l'avvicinarsi dell'evento EXPO 2015. Si tratta, secondo me, del primo caso di collaborazione a questo livello tra la P.A. e la comunità opendata italiana. Se non si tratta di un cinque stelle dell'opendata, poco ci manca. Questo intervento ha già avuto inizio per quanto concerne la fase di studio e proseguirà, da oggi in poi, in una fase pratica, di editing. In quest'ottica, AMAT desidera conoscere ed entrare in contatto con la comunità Milanese di OSM. Propongo un primo incontro informalissimo durante l'aperitivo di AperiSOD il prossimo giovedì sera http://www.paninomilano.com/ Sotto il palazzo di Regione Lombardia (Milano) alle 19:00. Che ne pensate? A me sembra una ottima occasione per costruire qualcosa di bello insieme ad una PA attenta. Venite? Mi è stato chiesto di aiutare AMAT a dare visibilità dell'intervento all'interno della community OSM e aiutarli a capire dinamiche e criticità della stessa. Grazie, Simone. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Presentazione OSM per ciclisti sta sera alla FIAB Padova
Sta sera Luca Deluchi farà una presentazione OSM per ciclisti per gli Amici della Bicicletta di Padova. Ora: 21:00 Dove: http://osm.org/go/0IBpgpSi6?m= Siete benvenuti Volker Amici della Bicicletta di Padova - FIAB onlus ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] AMAT e OpenStreetMap
2013/11/12 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: Ciao, ciao In quest'ottica, AMAT desidera conoscere ed entrare in contatto con la comunità Milanese di OSM. Propongo un primo incontro informalissimo durante l'aperitivo di AperiSOD il prossimo giovedì sera http://www.paninomilano.com/ Sotto il palazzo di Regione Lombardia (Milano) alle 19:00. giovedì prossimo 21? così lo aggiungo al wiki Che ne pensate? A me sembra una ottima occasione per costruire qualcosa di bello insieme ad una PA attenta. Venite? Mi è stato chiesto di aiutare AMAT a dare visibilità dell'intervento all'interno della community OSM e aiutarli a capire dinamiche e criticità della stessa. io non potrò esserci ma se serve aiuto contattatemi pure, ovviamente mi sembra un'ottima iniziati molto lodevole Grazie, Simone. -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] SRTM formato OSM
Volevo informarvi che da oggi è possibile scaricare SRTM convertito in formato OSM (.pbf) dal sito della fondazione edmund mach [0] Vi è un file per tutta italia e poi le singole regioni. Vi prego di non scaricare il file completo italiano se vi serve solo una parte poichè il file è un po' pesante (più di 8GB). Volevo chiedervi se qualcuno ha idea di come splittare un file SRTM pbf per essere dato in pasto a mkgmap, ho provato un po' tutti i software dedicati (splitter, osmcut, mapsplit) ma tutti ritornarno diverisi errori. (questo poichè sicuramente il trentino è troppo pesante e mkgmap non riesce a convertirlo e perciò devo dividerlo) [0] http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/italia_osm.html -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Autostrade in centro a Ventimiglia...
Il giorno 14 ottobre 2013 22:13, Daniele Forsi dfo...@gmail.com ha scritto: C'è qualcuno a Ventimiglia o zone limitrofe che può spiegare a questo nuovo utente come si mappa senza distruggere i dati presenti? http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Amici%20dei%20Disabili%20Onlus Sono riuscito a prendere contatto con loro. Ho spiegato, facendo riferimento al wiki, la classificazione delle strade, invitandoli a porre ulteriore domande sulla mailing list. Buona serata, Frafra ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Area Pic-Nic
Chiedo dritte su come taggare correttamente un'area pic-nic. Leggendo qui: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dpicnic_site capisco che se l'area pic-nic oltre ai tavoli ha anche i fuochi *aggiungo sullo stesso nodo* anche il tag amenity=bbq ho inteso giusto? E ancora, se l'area pic-nic ha un nome specifico come tag name metto ad es. Area pic-nic Margherita (come scritto sul cartello ma che forse è ridondante) oppure soltanto Margherita? Grazie, ciao --enrico -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Area-Pic-Nic-tp5785346.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Letture: OpenStreetMap e dati in pubblico dominio
Mi sono imbattuto in questa lettura http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/JimmyRocks/diary/20357 secondo me è molto interessante il punto di vista presentato -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Proposta di roadmap per il capitolo italiano OpenStreetMap Foundation
Ciao, Il 13 novembre 2013 07:36, Stefano Fraccaro postmas...@stefanofraccaro.org ha scritto: Si per motivi economici. Comunque questa mattina ho dato una occhiata alla situazione economica di Wikimedia e ho visto delle cose strane. 2-3 anni fa sono entrati circa 180-200 soci facendo balzare le entrate per quote associative da ~3440€ a oltre 8000. Nell'ultimo anno sono rimasti tesserati 285 persone mentre 186 erano in ritardo oppure non hanno proprio rinnovato. L'ultimo bilancio vede scendere la disponibilità da 172.000 euro a 115.000. Qualcuno che è già dentro a Wikimedia Italia potrebbe fare un pò di luce su questi numeri? posso risponderti io. * nel 2010-2011 Wikimedia Italia ha fatto la campagna con la Wikimedia Foundation, che poi non è più stata fatta perché è cambiato (a livello globale) il modello di fundraising; * l'anomalia nelle iscrizioni è dovuta al fatto che nella pagina per le donazioni era presentate insieme alla possibilità di donare anche la possibilità di associarsi (vedi: http://wiki.wikimedia.it/wiki/Dona) * la cassa insolitamente alta è un residuo del fundraising fatto quell'anno con Wikimedia Foundation, ed il fatto che le riserve calino è dovuto al fatto che le utilizziamo (perché non ha senso tenere quei soldi in cassa). Ciao, Cristian (VIcepresidente di Wikimedia Italia) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] SRTM formato OSM
Personalmente io uso srtm2osm, suddividendo l'area in quadrati da 0.5 x 0.5 e generando un file osm per ogni quadrato. Gli osm li converto poi con mkgmap e metto tutto insieme con gmt. Ho provato a generare un osm che copra tutta l'area e poi splittarlo ma non ci sono mai riuscito. Ciao Cristian Il 13/11/2013 12:02, Luca Delucchi ha scritto: Volevo informarvi che da oggi è possibile scaricare SRTM convertito in formato OSM (.pbf) dal sito della fondazione edmund mach [0] Vi è un file per tutta italia e poi le singole regioni. Vi prego di non scaricare il file completo italiano se vi serve solo una parte poichè il file è un po' pesante (più di 8GB). Volevo chiedervi se qualcuno ha idea di come splittare un file SRTM pbf per essere dato in pasto a mkgmap, ho provato un po' tutti i software dedicati (splitter, osmcut, mapsplit) ma tutti ritornarno diverisi errori. (questo poichè sicuramente il trentino è troppo pesante e mkgmap non riesce a convertirlo e perciò devo dividerlo) [0] http://geodati.fmach.it/gfoss_geodata/osm/italia_osm.html ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Area Pic-Nic
...@dieterdreist che dici? Grazie! --enrico -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Area-Pic-Nic-tp5785346p5785366.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Area Pic-Nic
2013/11/13 demon.box e.rossin...@alice.it: Chiedo dritte su come taggare correttamente un'area pic-nic. Leggendo qui: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dpicnic_site capisco che se l'area pic-nic oltre ai tavoli ha anche i fuochi *aggiungo sullo stesso nodo* anche il tag amenity=bbq ho inteso giusto? io di solito ho usato fireplace=yes E ancora, se l'area pic-nic ha un nome specifico come tag name metto ad es. Area pic-nic Margherita (come scritto sul cartello ma che forse è ridondante) oppure soltanto Margherita? direi solo margherita Grazie, ciao --enrico -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-uy] Proyecto de importacion de direcciones del localidades del interior.
Estimados: Basandonos en la informacion publicada por AGESIC - IDEUy, habria que evaluar la conveniencia y factibilidad legal y tecnica de importar datos publicados por IDEUy. Documento de Lineamientos Estratégicos para la informacion geografica http://ide.uy/inicio/noticias/aprobados+lineamientos+estrategicos+para+la+informacion+geografica http://ide.uy/wps/wcm/connect/2772d80040a110a8bbbe29651486/lineamiento_Datos_Geograficos.pdf?MOD=AJPERES El link para descarga de los datos esta en el menu de http://ide.uy arriba a la derecha y lleva a http://descarga-cdp-ide.agesic.gub.uy/ ¿Quien se suma? Fuera de los datos de direcciones tambien hay otra informacion que podria aprovecharse. Saludos, M. --- Todos los libros digitales (ebooks) y de papel en www.NosGustaLeer.com --- ___ Talk-uy mailing list Talk-uy@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-uy
[Talk-dk] Krisekorlægning på Filippinerne
Kære alle Jeg kan se der er folk der pt. arbejder rundt i Danmark. Det er der ikke noget galt i, men jeg vil alligevel opfordre alle der har tid til overs til at logge ind på http://tasks.hotosm.org/ og deltage i arbejdet der. På indeværende tidspunkt har mere end 600 mappere har allerede deltaget, men der er stadig meget at gøre i området. Med venlig hilsen Hjart ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Krisekorlægning på Filippinerne
Jeg kan her kun gentage opfordringen fra Hjart. Der er en Wikiside med masser af information vedr. krisekortlægningen i forbindelse med tyfonen. Den kan I kigge på som en start http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan vh Søren Johannessen 2013/11/13 Michael Andersen hj...@milvus.dk: Kære alle Jeg kan se der er folk der pt. arbejder rundt i Danmark. Det er der ikke noget galt i, men jeg vil alligevel opfordre alle der har tid til overs til at logge ind på http://tasks.hotosm.org/ og deltage i arbejdet der. På indeværende tidspunkt har mere end 600 mappere har allerede deltaget, men der er stadig meget at gøre i området. Med venlig hilsen Hjart ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops
On 12 November 2013 09:49, Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com wrote: For name, use whatever is on the bus stop sign. So in this example: http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/65797/article_346b19a79c148b9f_1342893529_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg name=Corporation St (or perhaps Street rather than St – not sure if we expand road names when they aren’t being used as road names) The shields in Birmingham say StreetName linebreak CommonName. That might indeed be the best option. We are just leaving out the interchange name then. -- Matthijs ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops
Hi Brian, Generally I don't think adding names to bus stops adds anything to the map other than when it is an Interchange name- so they're the only ones I name. Why? Generally because adding a name consisting of a street name where the street name is already on the map I consider to be cartographic clutter and totally redundant. Common names also tend to duplicate features that are already named on the map and so are not really needed. For transport applications the data is there to be used - no need to add it in a name. To be honest, I don't agree with you there. Tagging for the renderer (not giving bus stops names because it would create a clutter) is usually seen as a bad idea, and I believe that's the case here as well. First, on the one hand the default rendering doesn't display bus stop names anyway, so there it wouldn't become a clutter. On the other hand, the Transport Map layer displays bus stops names on low zoom level, and street names only on the highest levels, so there the bus stop names would be useful to get an overview. Also don't forget that we are not creating a map, we are creating a geographical database. For example, you might want to ask your software for the closest bus stop. It would be nice if you could then get the bus stop name as an answer, for which the name tags are necessary. Or for example, you might want to generate a list of all stops of a given bus route, for which you also need the stop names. Also, not all common names are named after features already on the map (some are called 'middle' for example). For now, I think the best scheme I can think of would be StreetName, CommonName. That would follow the name on the signs, except that we use a comma where there is a line break on the shield. -- Matthijs ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops
Since this information is already in the naptan tags why would we need to add it again under some other, eg name, tag? Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Matthijs Melissen [mailto:i...@matthijsmelissen.nl] Sent: 14 November 2013 01:41 To: talk-gb-westmidlands Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus stops Hi Brian, Generally I don't think adding names to bus stops adds anything to the map other than when it is an Interchange name- so they're the only ones I name. Why? Generally because adding a name consisting of a street name where the street name is already on the map I consider to be cartographic clutter and totally redundant. Common names also tend to duplicate features that are already named on the map and so are not really needed. For transport applications the data is there to be used - no need to add it in a name. To be honest, I don't agree with you there. Tagging for the renderer (not giving bus stops names because it would create a clutter) is usually seen as a bad idea, and I believe that's the case here as well. First, on the one hand the default rendering doesn't display bus stop names anyway, so there it wouldn't become a clutter. On the other hand, the Transport Map layer displays bus stops names on low zoom level, and street names only on the highest levels, so there the bus stop names would be useful to get an overview. Also don't forget that we are not creating a map, we are creating a geographical database. For example, you might want to ask your software for the closest bus stop. It would be nice if you could then get the bus stop name as an answer, for which the name tags are necessary. Or for example, you might want to generate a list of all stops of a given bus route, for which you also need the stop names. Also, not all common names are named after features already on the map (some are called 'middle' for example). For now, I think the best scheme I can think of would be StreetName, CommonName. That would follow the name on the signs, except that we use a comma where there is a line break on the shield. -- Matthijs ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3426 / Virus Database: 3629/6833 - Release Date: 11/13/13 ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-es] Tags for newsagent, kiosk, tobacco etc.
Dear all, First of all, I apologize for writing in English, but I have a question for the Spanish community. I'm currently documenting (and perhaps even standardizing if consensus can be used) the use of shop=newsagent/kiosk/tobacco/books tags. In many countries, there is a type of shop that sells most of the following: - Newspapers - Magazines - Books (but not as wide selection as a book shop) - Stationary - Post cards - Bus tickets - Concert tickets - Lottery tickets - Post stamps - Tobacco - Mobile phone credit - Drinks and candy The name of this type of shop varies across countries. In the Netherlands and Italy, they are most often refered to as tobacco shop (although tobacco is only a small fraction of what is being sold). In Switzerland and Luxembourg, they are refered to as kiosk (although they are not necessarily small buildings on the sidewalk). In Germany, they seem to be referred to as lottery shops (although they offer much more than just lottery tickets). However, the concept seems to be quite similar in most of these countries. Some examples (not necessarily under an open license): Italian tabacchi: [url]http://www.investmilano.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/tabacchi222.jpg[/url] Dutch Primera cigarette shop: [url]http://wijkaanzee.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Primera-wijkaanzee.jpg[/url] Swiss K-Kiosk: [url]http://www.gaeupark.ch/upload/prj/images/kiosk1.jpg[/url] English WHSmith: [url]http://www.birminghamairport.co.uk/~/media/Images/content/at-the-airport/shop-restaurant-images/WHSmith.ashx[/url] German Lotto lottery shop: [url]http://www.hit.de/regional/partner_image/071/071_Lotto_Shop.jpg[/url] Do such shops also exist in Spain, and how are they referred to? Which of the products that I listed do they sell? Thanks in advance for any responses. -- Matthijs ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Tags for newsagent, kiosk, tobacco etc.
Hello, The answer is yes, this kind of shop is called in spanish quiosco, the pronunciation is similar to kiosk. More or less they sell the same, it depends of the owner. The tobacco and post stamps are still selling in tobacco shops (Spanish name is estanco) but some quioscos sold tobacco now. The list of possible articles to sell is the same that you have. I hope I can help you with your doubt. Regards, Óscar (aka cronoser) --- Mensaje Original --- Desde: Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl Enviado: 14 de noviembre de 2013 01:13 Para: talk-es@openstreetmap.org Asunto: [Talk-es] Tags for newsagent, kiosk, tobacco etc. Dear all, First of all, I apologize for writing in English, but I have a question for the Spanish community. I'm currently documenting (and perhaps even standardizing if consensus can be used) the use of shop=newsagent/kiosk/tobacco/books tags. In many countries, there is a type of shop that sells most of the following: - Newspapers - Magazines - Books (but not as wide selection as a book shop) - Stationary - Post cards - Bus tickets - Concert tickets - Lottery tickets - Post stamps - Tobacco - Mobile phone credit - Drinks and candy The name of this type of shop varies across countries. In the Netherlands and Italy, they are most often refered to as tobacco shop (although tobacco is only a small fraction of what is being sold). In Switzerland and Luxembourg, they are refered to as kiosk (although they are not necessarily small buildings on the sidewalk). In Germany, they seem to be referred to as lottery shops (although they offer much more than just lottery tickets). However, the concept seems to be quite similar in most of these countries. Some examples (not necessarily under an open license): Italian tabacchi: [url]http://www.investmilano.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/tabacchi222.jpg[/url] Dutch Primera cigarette shop: [url]http://wijkaanzee.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Primera-wijkaanzee.jpg[/url] Swiss K-Kiosk: [url]http://www.gaeupark.ch/upload/prj/images/kiosk1.jpg[/url] English WHSmith: [url]http://www.birminghamairport.co.uk/~/media/Images/content/at-the-airport/shop-restaurant-images/WHSmith.ashx[/url] German Lotto lottery shop: [url]http://www.hit.de/regional/partner_image/071/071_Lotto_Shop.jpg[/url] Do such shops also exist in Spain, and how are they referred to? Which of the products that I listed do they sell? Thanks in advance for any responses. -- Matthijs ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-ee] openstreetmap ID editor ja orto kiht
Võid ikka. Tahaks lisada veel kihtidega arvestava permalingi kunagi jne. Geokodeerimine ei tunne ka hetkel täpitähti. Terv, Tormi 13. november 2013 14:46 kirjutas Jaak Laineste (Nutiteq) j...@nutiteq.com: Hm, võin selle teata.ee koodi panna kaart.maakaart.ee ? Ega seal muud vahet pole, kui mõned aluskaardi valikud läheks veel juurde. OL on seal ajaloolisel põhjusel puhtalt. Jaak On 13.11.2013, at 2:18, Tormi Tabor tormi.ta...@gmail.com wrote: OpenLayeri's ei ole veel jõudnud teha, aga Leaflet'il on täitsa selline plugin olemas: https://github.com/yohanboniface/Leaflet.EditInOSM Demo: http://teata.ee/ http://teata.ee/#7/58.651/24.609 Tormi 23. oktoober 2013 15:10 kirjutas Jaak Laineste j...@openstreetmap.ee: Äkki oskab keegi kaart.maakaart.ee lehele ka Redigeeri kaarti nuppu lisada? Jupike disainimist, HTML, võibolla CSS ja Javascript ka, et ilus välja näeks. Tehnilise faili uuendamise saan ma teha. Jaak On 23.10.2013, at 14:57, Tormi Tabor tormi.ta...@gmail.com wrote: Hei, Lisasin Maa-ameti aerofoto taustaks lisamise õpetuse ID-editori helpi, vt. https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/id-editor/translate/#et/core/11744216?q=imagery NB! Kes tahaks veel ID-editori tõlkida, siis tehku seda siva, sest juba homme lastakse uus reliis välja! *# Aerofoto* *Aerofotod on kaardistamisel oluliseks algallikaks. Valik aerofotosid on kättesaadavad paremal asuva redaktori taustaseadete menüü kaudu, vaikimisi on taustaks [Bing Maps](http://www.bing.com/maps/ http://www.bing.com/maps/) satelliitfoto.* *Maa-ameti aerofoto taustana kasutamiseks lisa kohandatud tausta valikusse aadress kujul http://kaart.maakaart.ee/orto/{z}/{x}/{y}.jpeg http://kaart.maakaart.ee/orto/%7Bz%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.jpeg. Selleks, et avada OSM ID-redaktor vaikimisi Maa-ameti ortofoto taustaga, kasuta veebibrauseris aadressi http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#background=custom:http://kaart.maakaart.ee/orto/{z}/{x}/{y}.jpegmap=@zoom/@lon/@lat http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#background=custom:http://kaart.maakaart.ee/orto/%7Bz%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.jpegmap=@zoom/@lon/@lat, milles @zoom/@lon/@lat asenda reaalsete väärtustega (näit. 15/59.3438/24.5892).* *Mõnikord on aerofoto kaardiandmete suhtes nihkes. Kui märkad mitmeid taustaga nihkes olevaid teid, ära asu kohe nende asukohti muutma, vaid kohanda vastavalt aerofoto asendit taustaseadete menüü valiku 'Korrigeeri nihet' abil.* Tormi 21. oktoober 2013 16:58 kirjutas Tormi Tabor tormi.ta...@gmail.com: Testisin Viljari URL-i - see ei näita siiski custom layerit, vaid Bingi. Seega, toimiv on minu viimati saadetud viide. URL, mis avab OSM ID-editori Maa-ameti ortofoto taustaga: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#background=custom:http://kaart.maakaart.ee/orto/{z}/{x}/{y}.jpegmap=15/59.3438/24.5892 Tormi 21. oktoober 2013 16:24 kirjutas Tormi Tabor tormi.ta...@gmail.com: Ok, Viljar juba sai ise ka tööle, sry;) 21. oktoober 2013 16:22 kirjutas Tormi Tabor tormi.ta...@gmail.com: Toimib: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#background=custom:http://kaart.maakaart.ee/orto/{z}/{x}/{y}.jpegid=n1813561651map=15/59.3438/24.5892 Tormi 17. oktoober 2013 15:13 kirjutas Jaak Laineste (Nutiteq) j...@nutiteq.com: Äkki lihtsalt openstreetmap.org softi ei uuendata igapäevaselt ? Siis pole see bugi, vaid tuleb oodata kui viimane iD version sinna jõuab. See custom URL igakordne uuesti panek on tüütus tõesti. Eks korralik lahendus oleks JOSM-i asukohapõhist (kui see on ikka asukohapõhine) nimekirja kasutada - et igas asukohas oleksid sealsed sourced juba valikus. SIis saaks kasvõi Tartu LV WMS-i sinna panna. Jaak On 17.10.2013, at 13:55, Viljar vilja...@gmail.com wrote: Tänud, selle abil sain otsa peale. oluline on jälgida parameetrite järjestust ja õiged vahemärke (# ja ? ja ). Vastasel juhul tehakse mingit automaatsuunamist. Seda URL õpetust olen lugenud. http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?background=custom:http://kaart.maakaart.ee/orto/{z}/{x}/{y}.jpegorigin=nweditor=id#map=16/59./25. 2013/10/17 Tormi Tabor tormi.ta...@gmail.com Ups, http://openstreetmap.us/iD/release/#background=custom:http://kaart.maakaart.ee/orto/{z}/{x}/{y}.jpegmap=16.08/24.59492/59.34945 17. oktoober 2013 13:20 kirjutas Tormi Tabor tormi.ta...@gmail.com : /iD/release/#background=custom: http://kaart.maakaart.ee/orto/{z}/{x}/{y}.jpegmap=16.08/24.59492/59.34945 Seda ei tea, miks osm.org-iga ei tööta, epaks vist veakirjelduse koostama.. Terv, Tormi 17. oktoober 2013 13:14 kirjutas Viljar vilja...@gmail.com: Tingituna erinevatest põhjustest olen sunnitud kasutama veebieditori ning see pole just kõige mõnusam. Bing on nigel ja GPS jälg pole alati kõige täpsem. Kui tekkis võimalus maaameti kihti ID's kasutada, siis oli see väga hea uudis ning vahelduva eduga olen seda kasutanud. Jama on aga selles, et iga kord kui kaarti muutma lähen, peab selle Custom layeri uuesti defineerima ning copy-paste
[Talk-at] Brauche Grafische Hilfe bei einem Programm
Hallo ! Ich habe mal geschrieben, dass ich an einem neuen Programm zum konvertieren von OSM Daten in SVG arbeite. Kurze Eckdaten: Das Programm ist in Java geschrieben. (Es läuft auf jedem OS) Es exportiert Multilayer Inkscape SVG daten (was auf welchen Layer kommt, kann man im Stylesheet einstellen) Das Stylesheet ist in Javascript geschrieben und einfach zu ändern. (Jeder Tag eine Datei, Nur die Hauptinfos z.B. landuse.js defniert alle landuse, aber landuse=forest.js überschreibt nochmal die Farben) Trotzdem kann man damit auch komplexere Angaben machen. Das Programm wird, wenn es fertig ist, als OpenSource der Community übergeben. Es gibt noch ein paar Erweiterungen die gemacht werden müssen, aber es gibt auch ein großes Problem. Für die Pattern (landuse=forest) oder die Symbole (power=pole) werden SVG Grafiken verwendet. Ich bin aber ein miserabler Grafiker und die Karte schaut so nicht gut aus. Aktuell Blindenmarkt (meine Heimat) als SVG Datei (DirektExport) http://home.it-open.at/Web/blindenmarkt.svg.zip Entpacken und mit Inkscape öffnen Ich brauche Grafiken für Pattern und Symbole als SVG (Inkscape bevorzugt). Es gibt Grafiken in osmarenderer aber ich bin auf der Suche nach was richtig gutem. Gibt es jemanden der mir da helfen will? Die Grafiken müssen natürllich dann auch unter einer offenen Lizenz stehen. Wer helfen will, der soll sich bitte bei mir melden. ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] batch update: power=sub_station
On 13.11.13 00:52, Rainer Fügenstein wrote: lt. wiki [1] wurde power=sub_station ersetzt durch power=substation. NACK. Das ist ein sehr kontroversiell diskutiertes *Proposal*. Eingeführte Tags zu ändern ist keine gute Idee, zumal ohne Not. /al ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Brauche Grafische Hilfe bei einem Programm
Hallo Roland, Am 13.11.2013 09:53, schrieb Roland Schuller: Es gibt noch ein paar Erweiterungen die gemacht werden müssen, aber es gibt auch ein großes Problem. Für die Pattern (landuse=forest) oder die Symbole (power=pole) werden SVG Grafiken verwendet. Ich bin aber ein miserabler Grafiker und die Karte schaut so nicht gut aus. [...] Ich brauche Grafiken für Pattern und Symbole als SVG (Inkscape bevorzugt). Es gibt Grafiken in osmarenderer aber ich bin auf der Suche nach was richtig gutem. Gibt es jemanden der mir da helfen will? Die Grafiken müssen natürllich dann auch unter einer offenen Lizenz stehen. Ich bin selber kein guter Grafiker, habe aber bereits vor ähnlichen Problemen gestanden. Es gibt inzwischen mehrere Sets frei verwendbarer Map-Icon-Sets; die Folgenden sind die mir bekannten: http://mapicons.nicolasmollet.com/ https://github.com/mapbox/maki http://map-icons.com/ http://freemapsymbols.org/ Und ein etwas chaotischer Überblick: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Icons Vielleicht ist da etwas für dich dabei? Viele Grüße, Holger -- Holger Schoener nume...@ancalime.de ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Brauche Grafische Hilfe bei einem Programm
Hallo Roland, du hast jetzt zwar die osmarender-Symbole erwähnt, aber nichts über die mapnik-Symbole gesagt. Sind diese denn keine Möglichkeit oder bist auf der Suche nach was besserem? http://www.sjjb.co.uk/mapicons/contactsheet Dann wäre die optische Ähnlichkeit - sofern gewünscht - zur Hauptkarte gegeben. LG Thomas PS: Finde ich sehr gut, dass du das derartig umsetzt: Hat mich auch immer gestört, dass alles auf einem Layer daher kam... (nur kann ich nicht programmieren...) Roland Schuller sch...@gmx.at hat am 13. November 2013 um 09:53 geschrieben: Hallo ! Ich habe mal geschrieben, dass ich an einem neuen Programm zum konvertieren von OSM Daten in SVG arbeite. Kurze Eckdaten: Das Programm ist in Java geschrieben. (Es läuft auf jedem OS) Es exportiert Multilayer Inkscape SVG daten (was auf welchen Layer kommt, kann man im Stylesheet einstellen) Das Stylesheet ist in Javascript geschrieben und einfach zu ändern. (Jeder Tag eine Datei, Nur die Hauptinfos z.B. landuse.js defniert alle landuse, aber landuse=forest.js überschreibt nochmal die Farben) Trotzdem kann man damit auch komplexere Angaben machen. Das Programm wird, wenn es fertig ist, als OpenSource der Community übergeben. Es gibt noch ein paar Erweiterungen die gemacht werden müssen, aber es gibt auch ein großes Problem. Für die Pattern (landuse=forest) oder die Symbole (power=pole) werden SVG Grafiken verwendet. Ich bin aber ein miserabler Grafiker und die Karte schaut so nicht gut aus. Aktuell Blindenmarkt (meine Heimat) als SVG Datei (DirektExport)http://home.it-open.at/Web/blindenmarkt.svg.zip Entpacken und mit Inkscape öffnen Ich brauche Grafiken für Pattern und Symbole als SVG (Inkscape bevorzugt). Es gibt Grafiken in osmarenderer aber ich bin auf der Suche nach was richtig gutem. Gibt es jemanden der mir da helfen will? Die Grafiken müssen natürllich dann auch unter einer offenen Lizenz stehen. Wer helfen will, der soll sich bitte bei mir melden. ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Brauche Grafische Hilfe bei einem Programm
Ich habe mir andere Symbolbibliotheken ansehen. Das Problem ist, dass keine der Bibliotheken komplett ist. z.B. Kann an für landuse=forest zwar ein Icon nehmen, aber man kann auch andere Icons für Laubwald,Nadelwald und Mischwald nehemen. Wenn ich ein fixes Iconset nehme, kann ich es selbst nicht erweitern oder abändern. Ich brauche einen durchgängigen Stil für alle Icons. Roland Am 2013-11-13 12:16, schrieb Holger Schöner: Hallo Roland, Am 13.11.2013 09:53, schrieb Roland Schuller: Es gibt noch ein paar Erweiterungen die gemacht werden müssen, aber es gibt auch ein großes Problem. Für die Pattern (landuse=forest) oder die Symbole (power=pole) werden SVG Grafiken verwendet. Ich bin aber ein miserabler Grafiker und die Karte schaut so nicht gut aus. [...] Ich brauche Grafiken für Pattern und Symbole als SVG (Inkscape bevorzugt). Es gibt Grafiken in osmarenderer aber ich bin auf der Suche nach was richtig gutem. Gibt es jemanden der mir da helfen will? Die Grafiken müssen natürllich dann auch unter einer offenen Lizenz stehen. Ich bin selber kein guter Grafiker, habe aber bereits vor ähnlichen Problemen gestanden. Es gibt inzwischen mehrere Sets frei verwendbarer Map-Icon-Sets; die Folgenden sind die mir bekannten: http://mapicons.nicolasmollet.com/ https://github.com/mapbox/maki http://map-icons.com/ http://freemapsymbols.org/ Und ein etwas chaotischer Überblick: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Icons Vielleicht ist da etwas für dich dabei? Viele Grüße, Holger ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-at] Einladung zum CrisisCamp Graz
Hallo, In Graz gibt es dieses Wochenende (am Samstag, 16.11.) einen Hackathon zum Thema Philippinen, dazu würden wir gerne einladen: http://pad.hackers4peace.net/p/crisiscamp-graz Ort ist voraussichtlich die Galerie im Spektral, Essen und Getränke wird besorgt. Würde uns freuen, wenn sich jemand aus Graz dafür Zeit nehmen könnte! lg, Michael -- Michael Maier, Student of Telematics @ Graz University of Technology OpenStreetMap Graz http://osm.org/go/0Iz@paV http://wiki.osm.org/Graz http://wiki.osm.org/Graz/Stammtisch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Stolpersteine
On 10/11/13 15:25, martin ringer wrote: Wie steht es eigentlich um die Eintragung der Stolpersteine? Wo in Österreich gibt es Orte mit Stolpersteinen? Wien, Salzburg, Graz, Mödling, Bezirk Braunau? In Graz gibt es welche, dürfen wir eintragen. Liste kann ich besorgen, ich hatte nur leider selber noch keine Zeit dafür. http://www.stolpersteine-graz.at/ lg, Michael -- Michael Maier, Student of Telematics @ Graz University of Technology OpenStreetMap Graz http://osm.org/go/0Iz@paV http://wiki.osm.org/Graz http://wiki.osm.org/Graz/Stammtisch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[OSM-talk-fr] Intégration d'un plan topographique
Bonjour à tous, Dans le cadre d'un projet de circuit touristique, j'ai récupéré le plan topo d'un site archéologique et de ses alentours. Du coup, j'ai lidée de verser les infos précieuses de ce plan comme les arbres, les bancs, les poubelles, etc... En parallèle, j'ai un petit soucis pour qualifier certaines infos. - Les poteaux téléphoniques (power=pole et quoi ?) - Les points d'altitude presque 4.000 points sur la colline d'Orange avec une précision en z centimétrique (pour un jour améliorer le MNT). - Les plaques et autres regards (eau, électricité, réseaux, ...) Je suppose que cartographier chacun des poteaux d'un barrière est un peu trop (mais je pourrais). Avez-vous quelques idées pour qualifier tout ça ? - Tony EMERY Administrateur OpenStreetMap.fr Mandataire Grand Sud-Est Géomaticien chef de projets -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Integration-d-un-plan-topographique-tp5785214.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Nouveau sur la liste
Bonjour, Je suis depuis quelques temps la liste d'un coin de l'oeil pour me tenir au courant et je prend enfin le temps de me présenter. Je suis chercheur à l'ifsttar et travail sur l'étude des mobilités à partir des traces numériques de déplacement, j'utilise parfois des données OSM dans le cadre de mes recherches et je trouve le projet OSM assez génial. Je ne suis pas du tout actif en ce qui concerne la saisie cela viendra peut être un jour mai je m' intéresse par contre pas mal à la carto et réutilise donc parfois des données OSM. A+ etienne -- ~ Etienne Côme http://www.comeetie.fr == ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Intégration d'un plan topographique
Bonjour - Mail original - De: Tony Emery tony.em...@yahoo.fr - Les points d'altitude presque 4.000 points sur la colline d'Orange avec une précision en z centimétrique (pour un jour améliorer le MNT). http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsurvey_point http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ele - Les plaques et autres regards (eau, électricité, réseaux, ...) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:manhole Je suppose que cartographier chacun des poteaux d'un barrière est un peu trop (mais je pourrais). http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dfence Oui, c'est un peu pousser un peu trop loin le mapping, mais pourquoi pas un nœud à chaque poteau d'une clôture sans l'étiquette en tant que tel. Cordialement -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Changements graphiques à venir sur la page principale d'openstreetmap.org
Bonjour, Comme ceux qui ne suivent pas les discussions au niveau international ou qui n'ont pas suivi le dernier SOTM, un changement de design de la page principale du site openstreetmap.org est en cours de finalisation. On peut en voir un prototype sur ce lien: http://redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ et d'autres commentaires (en anglais) ici: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/498#issuecomment-28309700 Vous pouvez y ajouter vos remarques ou commentaires ou alors participer au fil de discussion sur la liste de diffusion t...@openstreetmap.org . Pieren ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr