Re: IMAP filters
Hi Peter, now, quick filters in 5.3.x, but still no working IMAP. Great... As I said before: useless fancy stuff but not the basics. I cannot understand the product policy, if there was or is any, of Ritlabs. :-( -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.3.1 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.3.1.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP filters
Hi Gleason! Broken imap is a thing of the past for most of us, I suspect. Is there something wrong using IMAP or how do you work? POP3 is kinda outdated, IMAP is the future. And Ritlabs manged it to never get IMAP working 100% over the years. Not many companies get this done as perfect as Ritlabs. Or do you think that this IMAP implementation crap is good enough? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.3.1 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.3.1.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP filters
Hi Peter! I am the only one p*ssed off that IMAP filtering still does not work? No, I am p*ssed, too. And I am using IMAP filters a lot, too. They work somehow, but not completly which is forcing me moving mails around every few days for 15-30 minutes... Great! Well, it seems to be more important of implementing fancy stuff and letting people pay for this instead of getting the basic features up and running. Letting me pay and pay and pay all over again since v2 and the promise that IMAP will work soon still works, but not for much longer, which I can promise here. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.1.6.7 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.1.6.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP purge, mark as deleted, filters
Hi all, I just did some IMAP testing and made some experiences for months which I would like to share here. Maybe you have information for me how I can get rid of the problems, maybe it turns out that I noticed some bugs. When I delete a message on a IMAP account with TB, the message gets marked as deleted in the folder where it was and copied to the Trash folder. I think this is the behavior have I set up in Account Properties / Mail Management / Deletion. Although it says move the message to Trash. I also noticed that when I filter a message to a local account or move it there by hand (I do this a lot to archive messages on my local machine and move the messages away from the server) the messages stay in the IMAP account and are marked as read. Like the deleted messages described above I can purge/compact the folder, e.g. with Roundcube Webmail. How is it possible to really delete (purge) the messages within TB? Thunderbird for example has an option to do just that. When using the filters for moving messages from IMAP into local folders I notice for months now that some filters are executed, some are not. All filters look the same, only the source and destination folders plus the conditions differ a bit. If I use the filters by hand (right mouse, re-filter), all filters work just fine. Does andybody else notice IMAP stuff like this? Did I set up something wrong or are these bugs of TB? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.22.6 (ALPHA) powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.22.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.22.5
Hello all, I did some digging into my IMAP account and found out that there was a certain message which Courier and/or TB was not able to handle. The message looked just like any other message on the server shell. Unfortunally I deleted the message - I did not want to do that to look into it or post it here for further investigation. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.22.6 (ALPHA) powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.22.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.22.5
Hello Maxim, up and running. But IMAP is still not working for me: I connect to the IMAP server and get kicked after some time when TheBat is still looking for changes in the folders on the server. !08.08.2011, 09:39:40: IMAP - Server reports error. The response is: BYE ALERT Fatal error: Invalid argument !08.08.2011, 09:39:40: IMAP - BYE ALERT Fatal error: Invalid argument Regards, Martin Current beta is 5.0.22.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.22.3
Hello Maxim, after having problems with IMAP in 5.0.22.2 I cannot use IMAP in this version anymore. I get disconnected every time I try to connect. I see different errors in log: !05.08.2011, 12:21:38: IMAP - Server reports error. The response is: BYE ALERT Fatal error: Invalid argument !05.08.2011, 12:21:38: IMAP - BYE ALERT Fatal error: Invalid argument !05.08.2011, 12:37:06: IMAP - Connection unexpectedly closed -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.22.3 (ALPHA) powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.22.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.22.3
Hi! I cannot reproduce this. I use IMAP on a Courier server and gmail. Both seem to work OK in this respect. Here I still cannot log in. I also have a Courier server running. With 5.0.2.22 I had the problem that IMAP said something about illegal characters. I deleted the spam messages via webmail and then I was able to synchronize the folders. Now TB does not really much - it logs in and then the connection breaks right away. And no, I won't delete one ham mail after the other to see if this might be a problem. Cheers, Martin Current beta is 5.0.22.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.20.1 MSI
Hello Maxim! Won't install over 5.0.20 - Already installed Same here. Won't install. Regards, Martin Current beta is 5.0.18.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 Thread mark as read
Hello all! BTW: Problem still active in 5.0.14.1... As usual NO comments from Ritlabs staff and no fix. I'm beginning to take this personal. As a result I won't post bugs here anymore and try the bugtracker instead. If the feedback there is the same as here I won't report any bugs at all. If it's that what Ritlabs wants, ok. The product will not get better... This bug reported here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8787 -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.16 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 Search does not save view mode
Hi all! still not fixed in 5.0.14.1... As usual NO comments from Ritlabs staff and no fix. I'm beginning to take this personal. As a result I won't post bugs here anymore and try the bugtracker instead. If the feedback there is the same as here I won't report any bugs at all. If it's that what Ritlabs wants, ok. The product will not get better... This bug reported here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8786 -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.16 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.14.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 Search does not save view mode
Hi all, Hi Maxim, still not fixed in 5.0.14.1... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.14.1 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 Thread mark as read
Hi Stuart! I attached two screenshots (one to this mail, one to the next - because of mail size...). I did mark a couple of threads and made a screenshot (before), then I marked the threads as read (by using the context menu which appears with the right mouse button) and made another screenshot (after). So you are trying to mark numerous threads as read when they are collapsed. You can do that easily when they are selected as you have done by just selecting Mark as Read instead of Mark Thread as read, or use Ctrl+M. Hm, I don't understand. I selected several collapsed (which is default and mostly the case here) threads, use the right mouse button to mark the threads as read. This works sometimes, sometimes not. First I thought it has something to do if first message of the the first or last marked thread is read or unread. But no, I checked just now. BTW: Problem still active in 5.0.14.1... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.14.1 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.12 Thread mark as read
Hi all, as my bug reports simply get ignored when replying to a release info I'm starting new threads now... Thread mark as read still does not work correctly. I mentioned this already three times (5.0.4 RC4, 5.0.8, 5.0.8.1). It works when you only mark unread threads (which means the first message has to be unread). But it does not work when you first mark a read thread and then several unread threads. Can somebody confirm? Can anybody fix this? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.12 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.12 Search does not save view mode
Hi all, in results window of the search function the view mode is not saved. It always bounces back to no view mode when opening again the search function. This problem exists for all 5.x versions but I report it the first time now, I always forgot to mention this. Can anybody confirm? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.12 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.12 Advanced search options are ignored
Hi all, when activating recieved after function in advanced tab of search it is simply ignored, all messages found in message base are listed in results, no matter when the messages were recieved. Maybe other advaced options are also ignored, I did not check, yet. This problem exists for all 5.x versions but I report it the first time now, I always forgot to mention this. Can anybody confirm? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.12 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 Thread mark as read
Hello Stuart, Hello Dwight, thank you for your replies. I attached two screenshots (one to this mail, one to the next - because of mail size...). I did mark a couple of threads and made a screenshot (before), then I marked the threads as read (by using the context menu which appears with the right mouse button) and made another screenshot (after). -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.12 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.orgattachment: before_mark-thread-unread.gif Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 Thread mark as read
Hello Stuart, Hello Dwight, here's the second screenshot. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.12 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.orgattachment: after_mark-thread-unread.gif Current beta is 5.0.10.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.8.1 (BETA)
Hi Maxim, up and running. Rethreading still does not work (wasn't this brought up weeks ago?). Thread mark as read still does not work correctly. I mentioned this already two times... It works when you only mark unread threads (which means the first message has to be unread). But it does not work when you first mark a read thread and then several unread threads. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.8.1 (BETA) powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.8.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Oh No! [Ritlabs-news] The Bat! 5 – 5/5 stars program!
Hi all! It looks like TB5 has just been released. This is going to add great pressure to the dev team because we here know what the problem are. One more news article (German): http://www.golem.de/1104/82615.html Good article, the essence is: Entwickler Ritlabs neigt dazu, finale Versionen zu veröffentlichen, die deutliche Probleme zeigen, und dann neue Versionen hinterherzuschieben. Translated quick and dirty: Developer Ritlabs tends to release final versions with major problems and then releases new versions after that. Nothing more to say... ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.8 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.8 release
Hi Maxim, up and running. I'm using IMAP with my main account and a somehow unusual setup: All mails I get on several email addresses (business, private etc pp...) are routed to this main account. Also several mails are sorted into folders on the mail server. I read mails with my smartphone and via webmailer and from time to time I empty the account by downloading the mails to my local mail client (TheBat). As I use subfolders I download the mails by filter (move) the mails into local folders of my several local mail accounts. This did work sometimes with 4.x, and works a lot better in 5.x, but not perfect. For example: I click on receive mails for the IMAP account. TheBat connects to the server and checks all folders. After that, the filters start working and move mails to my local accounts. But just _some_ folders. E.g. the folder where the TheBat mailing list mails are stored is untouched. I see the mails after TheBat checked the folder, but the mails stay there until I do a manual refilter. Then the mails are moved to my local folders. I cannot see _any_ difference between the different filters here. Can somebody confirm? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.8 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.8 release
Hi Maxim, Thread mark as read is still not working when marking more than one thread. Reported for 5.0.4 RC/4: mid:1387099104.20110331125...@sebald.com Can anybody confirm? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.8 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.6.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.6
Hi Maxim! http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-0-6.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_5-0-6.msi I cannot download any of the files. 404 not found. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.4 RC/4 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 5.0.4 RC/4 is available for beta testers
Hi Maxim, up and running. Thread mark as read is not working when marking more than one thread. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v5.0.4 RC/4 powered by Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 5.0.0.153 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.2.36.1
Hi Maxim, up and running. S/MIME signature problem still exists: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7848 mid:1582052540.20091230034...@sebald.com I addressed this problem beginning of January 2010 and still no progress on it - no, I just got ignored by the developers. As with all problems I post here. Hey, you have S/MIME in the feature list and it does not work for months now, also in the current stable version you offer on your website. This is just ignorant and unprofessional!!! :-( -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.36.1 powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.33.1
Hi Maxim, up and running. Could somebody take care of the S/MIME signature problem? https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7848 It still exists in this version of TB. Thanks! -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.33.1 Beta powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.33.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.23 MSI - again
Hi Maxim, up and running, but: S/MIME signature problem still exists, see: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7848 mid:1582052540.20091230034...@sebald.com BTW: It's not that I did not notice that this bug (or is it my person) ist completly ignored. No comment here in the list, no comment in the bug tracking system, no action at all... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.23 powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello mse! It's just a guess, but your S/MIME certificate says that it's 2048 bits. I've had some bad experiences when I got my first 2048 bits certificate and quickly stepped back to 1024 because too many clients can't handle them and Outlook Express users even reported not being able to reply to me anymore. You also might want to try what happens when you switch from S/MIME internal implementation to MS Crypto API. Maybe there's a change in behavior that could help. I tried but no certificate was found. Not surprise because I downloaded the certificates via Firefox, they never were installed in Windows. I might try this during the weekend. But the internal impementation should work - which also makes more sense that the MS Crypto API when using TheBat from a different computer from time to time. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello mse! when sending a mail to a friend who is using TheBat, too - he sees the attached error message. The friend I was talking about upgraded from 4.1.11 to 4.2.16 Final right now. Before, signed mails from him were fine in Squirrelmail and everywhere else, now signed mails from him are broken as my mails. Inside TheBat the mails look fine. Interesting is, that my mails, which were shown as invalid with a red cross in my friends 4.1.11 TheBat are now shown as valid in the 4.2.16 Final version. I have Version 4.2.18 running on my machine. I installed the required certificates from the website and now your mail appears as properly signed and valid. I'm afraid, I can't help you; here everything looks fine. Yes, everything looks fine INSIDE TheBat and when sending mails from one TheBat to another TheBat. The fun starts when you try to verify the signatures with another mailer than TheBat, e.g. Squirrelmail, Thunderbird or something else. There the signature is broken and invalid. This was not the case with older TheBat versions so something was changed and screwed up the signature thing. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hi Maurice! The fun starts when you try to verify the signatures with another mailer than TheBat, e.g. Squirrelmail, Thunderbird or something else. It's just a guess, but your S/MIME certificate says that it's 2048 bits. I've had some bad experiences when I got my first 2048 bits certificate and quickly stepped back to 1024 because too many clients can't handle them and Outlook Express users even reported not being able to reply to me anymore. Well, could be that some clients don't handle 2048 bit certificates. But when I tested the scenario with a friend of mine he sent me a testmail with TheBat 4.1.11 and his fancy brand new StartSSL 2048 bit certificate. The certificate was valid in my TheBat 4.2.16, Squirrelmail, a linux mail client and also in Thunderbird. After he upgraded his TheBat installation to 4.2.16 as well, mails signed with the same certificate (nothing was changed in the configuration, just upgraded to the then most recent version) were only valid in TheBat, not in any other mail client software. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.2.18 Christmas Edition MSI
Hi Maxim, up and running, but: S/MIME signature problem still exists, see: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7848 mid:1582052540.20091230034...@sebald.com -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello all, problem still exists in 4.2.18... ...and obviously nobody cares... ...as always, adding new fancy features is more important than fixing stuff which already worked before... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello Marek! problem still exists in 4.2.18... ...and obviously nobody cares... ...as always, adding new fancy features is more important than fixing stuff which already worked before... christmas editions have more than 80 bugfixes, what new fancy features are You talking about? I'm talking about the usual way many bugs are treated comparing to adding new features. We had this discussion many times here in the beta list. Usually I would not be concerned that a bug is not fixed after some days. But with these discussions in the past and that just nobody replied or commented this bug concernes me that there will be a long waiting time until something happens. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.18 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.2.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello Maurice, I know that the certificate only appears valid when the root and intermediate certificates are there. The problem here is that it seems that there is some kind of message format error. If the message format was ok, the signature would show as not valid. But the mail client would be able to read the signature. In my case the mail is somehow broken, at least for Squirrelmail and this Linux mail client I mentioned in my first mail. Can someone confirm my problems? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.14.7 RC2 powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.16.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello all, when sending a mail to a friend who is using TheBat, too - he sees the attached error message. Has anybody an idea what is going on? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.16.2 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.orgattachment: Screenshot_PKCS_Error.jpg smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.16.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME cetificate error?
Hello again, ok, it's a issue with the current TheBat! version. when sending a mail to a friend who is using TheBat, too - he sees the attached error message. The friend I was talking about upgraded from 4.1.11 to 4.2.16 Final right now. Before, signed mails from him were fine in Squirrelmail and everywhere else, now signed mails from him are broken as my mails. Inside TheBat the mails look fine. Interesting is, that my mails, which were shown as invalid with a red cross in my friends 4.1.11 TheBat are now shown as valid in the 4.2.16 Final version. Problem is now reported here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7848 -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.16.2 Christmas Edition powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.16.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
S/MIME cetificate error?
Hi all, I noticed that in Squirrelmail S/MIME signed mails from me appear not as they should. See attached picture. Also signed mails appear not valid in other mail clients like this one: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091228 Lightning/1.0b1pre Shredder/3.0.1pre (Taken from X-Mailer header data, I don't know what mailer this exactly is.) When I download my own messages they appear valid in TheBat!. This message should be signed, too. Does someone else has the same problem or can say more about this? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.2.14.7 RC2 powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.orgattachment: smime-error.gif smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.2.16.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP Message Filter not working
Hi all,
I use IMAP filters to filter mails in IMAP folders on the mailserver to a
local account on my machine. All filters work similar. I set conditions and
if the conditions match the message should get moved into this other
account.
Some filters to work perfectly, some filters don't. Here's one of the
filters which is working:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [95CDE010.01C9A013.5EF2DB4A.4628F476]
Name: TB\20Beta
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`List-Id:\20tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder
\5c\5cmar...@sebald.com\20pop3\5ccomputer\5cthebat!\5ctb\20beta
IsActive
IsSendQueue
endFilter
And here is a filter which is not working:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [8DACABE0.01C9A019.6E46D478.1CBCCC5F]
Name: mseb...@hot-chilli.net\20amavis-user
Filter:
{\0D\0A{\0D\0A\20`5`0`List-Id:\20General\20discussion\20list\20about\20AMaViS\0D\0A}\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5c\5cmseb...@hot-chilli.net\5camavis-user
IsActive
IsSendQueue
endFilter
The only difference is that the filters which work affect messages which
are stored in folders without subfolders. The filters which don't work
affect messages in folders with subfolders, e.g. the INBOX folder, but also
a folder named INBOX.Newsletter (where I created subfolders, e.g.
TheBat-Mailinglists).
Can somebody help? Is this a bug or did I setup something wrong?
--
Regards,
Martin
The Bat! v4.1.11.5 powered by Windows Server 2008 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
ConCarne cooks best since 1998
http://www.concarne.org
smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.23
Hello all, this was an problem with all folders. Disk space wasn't a problem, also I was able to use the mouse. I just rebootet the machine and now it works fine. Interesting... Sorry about that, regards, Martin Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.24.23
Hi all, I cannot move messages with the mouse (drag drop) to other folders anymore. Can anybody confirm? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.24.23 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.24.23 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Maxim, up and running using OTFE. As with previous 4.0.2x versions TheBat! sometimes shows two tasks in Windows Task Manager (only in applications view). And also it shows TheBat! twice in Taskbar with only one of it clickable. Also when I return to the Remote Desktop session TheBat! sometimes is shown as stopped working and been closed by Windows. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.22 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.20.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Maxim! up and running using OTFE. I have to correct myself. Incoming and outgoing filters are not working anymore... Reverting to 4.0.20.4. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.22 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.20.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Martin! up and running using OTFE. I have to correct myself. Incoming and outgoing filters are not working anymore... Reverting to 4.0.20.4. Confirmed - switched back to 4.0.20.5 I also had this problem when switching back to .5 which I noticed only five minutes ago. So now I'm back on .4 and hope that everything is working again. And yes, it could be that only some filters are not working anymore. I did not look further into this after four or five filters did not work. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Martin! I just received 5 messages for tbbeta. 2 signed messages from you and 3 unsigned messages from others. The filter did not work on your messages, they remained in the inbox, while it properly worked on the others. Maybe there is a dependancy on whether a message is signed or not? The last two _signed_ messages from Martin Sebald were not filtered over here. It seems that my messages are the showstopper here? *fg* (Sorry for kind of off-topic...) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Mark! I also had this problem when switching back to .5 which I noticed only five minutes ago. So now I'm back on .4 and hope that everything is working again. And yes, it could be that only some filters are not working anymore. I did not look further into this after four or five filters did not work. Messages from you are the only ones that stay in the inbox. All other (TBBETA as well as others) seem to be filtered as could be expected. I also had problems with an outgoing filter which moves messages to people listed in my address book. These messages also stayed in the normal sent folder. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Peter! I'm filtering on the Reply-To header. How do the people with not filtered messages filtering? Header field 'reply-to' contains 'TBBETA@thebat.dutaint.com' I'm filtering for mailheader content: List-Id: tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.22.1
Hi Peter! [-] Digital signatures might cause problems in IMAP or Sorting (BETA issue) your'e damn fast, Max! ;-) Let's see what will happen to Martins next messages... So I just reply without any further sense to this mail... ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Peter! OK ... Martin, since your messages are the only ones which make the filter fail, could you please send two messages to the list, one signed and the other unsigned? This could be helpful in isolating this damn bug-a-boo :-) Sure... ;-) This is the signed message... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.22.0
Hi Peter! OK ... Martin, since your messages are the only ones which make the filter fail, could you please send two messages to the list, one signed and the other unsigned? This could be helpful in isolating this damn bug-a-boo :-) And here we got the unsigned message... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.22.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0.20.4
Hi Maxim, up and running, upgrading from 4.0.20.1. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.20.4 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.20.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.18.7
Hi Maxim, up and running with OTFE and Windows Server 2008. ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.7 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
default charset
Hi all, is there any suggestion what charset is best to use as default? (I'm from Germany so 99,99% of the mostly German and English mails are written and recieved in latin letters.) At the moment I'm using Latin 9 (ISO) but I was thinking about changing this to Unicode (UTF-8). No real reason given but UTF-8 seems to be the future as many applications and operating systems are changing from ISO to UTF-8. And a TheBat! specific question: Is it useful to force a charset when answering to mails or keeping to the charset the original mail was? And what does the option default charset in the folder properties box do? Is this the charset which is used when creating a new message or replying a message? And what about the use character set option in account properties / new message template? Does this override other settings or is this overridden by the folder properties? Thanks a lot for your help. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.5 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default charset
Hi Vili! I think, this mail should have gone to TBUDL. Good point. Just forgot about this list. ;-) I'm also subscribed but I never write there... And what does the option default charset in the folder properties box do? Is this the charset which is used when creating a new message or replying a message? And what about the use character set option in account properties / new message template? Does this override other settings or is this overridden by the folder properties? While you wrote this message, a quick test would have given you the answer. :) So, instead of answer this, I encourage you to make that test. (I hope you dont feel I am rude: I would do the same to my daughter: let her explore things to make her _better_.) Sure, I could try but there are two reasons I did not: 1) I get asked all day about computer problems so in this case I just behave like my customers. It's quicker and easier, also I don't want to invent the wheel a second time. ;-) 2) I can try the behaviour of these settings and afterwards I can say how it works, maybe. But I don't know the real reasons why there are several possibilities to set the charset. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default charset
Hi Vili! I just realized you are an old beta tester. Strange questions... I thought somebody is lost. ;-) As said in the other message I am subscribed to all lists but I usually only read this list and also I only write in this list, from time to time. I'm more like a passive beta tester and only write when something really matters to me. is there any suggestion what charset is best to use as default? (I'm from Germany so 99,99% of the mostly German and English mails are written and recieved in latin letters.) At the moment I'm using Latin 9 (ISO) but I was thinking about changing this to Unicode (UTF-8). No real reason given but UTF-8 seems to be the future as many applications and operating systems are changing from ISO to UTF-8. I use the same charset to reply mails that I got. So what is your default charset? You replied to my message by using us-ascii as charset. Also I noticed that my first message does not have any charset at all in the message header?!? I wrote in Latin 9 (ISO), h...?!? And a TheBat! specific question: Is it useful to force a charset when answering to mails or keeping to the charset the original mail was? I think, in English/German mails, it is not an issue... I think, if you would have Chinese, Cyrillic contacts, that would be an issue. As I wrote, I'm not a real specialist with charsets. I just noticed that there must be something around when for example Debian changed from ISO-8859 to UTF-8 with the last release. Also MySQL-Server changed from ISO-8859 to UTF-8. There must be a reason for this so I asked myself if it is useful or not doing the same with my email message format. Maybe some mailer programs may have problems with ISO charsets in the future?!? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to recover messages?
Hello Paul! PVN Yes, I was able to do it for a customer once. It has never been a PVN problem otherwise. Please tell me how you recovered the mails. All my attempts with Voyager were futile. I would be also very interested who this worked for you as this was the question I was raising in this thread. Is it possible to revert OTFE back to plain? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to recover messages?
Hi Paul! MS As you can see, I use OTFE. TF Bad choice. MS Is there a trick? ;-) TF Use plain. OTFE doesn't seem to support recovering the messages. At TF least that is my experience with Voyager, have tried many ways. Poor advice for someone who has the potential of compromise. I have customers around the world using OTFE with success. The reason I am using OTFE is because I'm also using TB! on my notebook. I tought it might be better to encrypt the mail database instead of encrypting the whole hard drive because of performance and other reasons. My new notebook now offers hardware encryption so OTFE might be outdate for me but I really can understand the argument Thomas brought up. OTFE is very useful for many people. But it seems to be that OTFE isn't fully developed when looking onto database recovery. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default charset
Hi Vili! Also I noticed that my first message does not have any charset at all in the message header?!? I wrote in Latin 9 (ISO), h...?!? It had charset=iso-8859-15, which _is_ Latin 9 Does the mailing list alter the mail header and modifies charset information? This would not make any sense at all... Your mail again contains this in the mail header: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hm... Peters mail also contained this charset information. Is this correct? My mail header looks like this: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0173761011== Maybe because of the S/MIME certificate. I will send this mail without S/MIME. But how does the foreign mail client know how to show my mail? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default charset
Hi Peter, and first of all thank you for all the information about this character set stuff you are providing. Very interesting and also helpful. Sure: for e-mail there is a method to declare the used character set, but not for text files ... And if used commonly for text products, why stick with an old system for e-mail? :-) So: let's switch and show the world: we're not dinosaurs, we use not only a modern MUA, but also see the advantages of a modern character encoding system ;-) I also like being a pioneer and I also like it using new fancy stuff. So I fully agree with your words. But is this the right thing to do? The question is what charset is the best to use to be compatible with most of the other guys on the internet. I'm not talking about Windows 95 users who might run into problems but I'm talking about normal users with Outlook (Express) or Thunderbird or webmail client users. Do most of the modern mail clients support UTF-8 and is this the first choice for mail encoding or should we stick a little bit longer to ISO-8859? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: default charset
Hi all! My mail header looks like this: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0173761011== Maybe because of the S/MIME certificate. I will send this mail without S/MIME. But how does the foreign mail client know how to show my mail? Ok. Without S/MIME I also get Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii in my mail header. When I send a mail to my webmail account I get this: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 So mails to the mailing list are somehow altered. Hopefully not only the mail header but also the content of the mail itself. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.18.6 powered by Windows Server Longhorn Server 4.0 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to recover messages?
Hi all, nobody has any idea? :-( -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14.9 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.7
Hi Maxim, is there some problem with the internal backup? I discovered that TB was backing up my data! Interesting because I never used the internal backup routine, also I never configured anything to make an automated backup. Where are the backup files stored? I was not able to see any destination folder or anything like that. I upgraded to 4.0.14.9 now but I did not read anything about this in .8 and .9 release information. I also had this problem before, see here: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14.9 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14
Hi all, I had this again just some minutes ago. When right clicking TB in task bar and clicking on close a Backup window appeared. TB backuped my accounts! Interesting, because I never configured a automatic backup or used the internal backup anyhow. Two questions: Where can I disable this and where are the files stored? I don't need the backup files because I use my own backup method. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14
Hi all, sorry, message should belong here: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14
Hi Maxim, installed fine from MSI but when I minimize TB into the task bar it jumps to over 30% CPU in task manager and I'm not able to restore the program window. Closing TB with right click in the task bar works. I downgraded to 4.0.12.2. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.12.2 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to recover messages?
Hi all, maybe not a beta issue and a RTFM issue here with me, but I want to ask anyway. During downloading messages my computer hang up the day before yesterday. In maintainance centre TB showed two damaged folders and said that it was able to recover messages. The folder in the TB folder list shows zero messages, also after restarting TB. When taking a look into the folder directory I see the following files: MESSAGES.BCK MESSAGES.EBB MESSAGES.EBI MESSAGES.IBK As you can see, I use OTFE. The first two files should contain the messages. I tried to import both files to another folder but wasn't able to do this, 0 messages imported. Is there a trick? ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.12.2 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14
Hi Maxim, I had the same problem with 4.0.12.2, so I upgraded to 4.0.14 again. It could have something to do when Edit Mail Message windows are open and get minimized or pressed to the background. Strange... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Select Certificate box always appears
Hi all, with 3.x versions of TB this box only appeared one time after installing a new private certificate into an account. With 4.x versions it apprears every time. I started using 4.x with version 4.0.11. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.14 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.orgattachment: select_certificate.png smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
Hi Maxim! The Bat! 4.0.0.22 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-0-0-22.msi is this release still downloadable? I get errors when I tried to download. Did I miss something when crosschecking my new 1500 mails here in the list? Sorry, I did not read much the last weeks. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.11 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
Hi Marek! The Bat! 4.0.0.22 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-0-0-22.msi is this release still downloadable? I get errors when I tried to download. Did I miss something when crosschecking my new 1500 mails here in the list? Sorry, I did not read much the last weeks. You have newer build than this, why do You want to download it? Argn, you're right. I missed the second zero... Sorry... ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.11 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99.29
Hi Maxim, I'm still having the same problem I had with version 3.99.25, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from Oct/20/2007. I'm experiencing the problem that the field for the today's messages display time format is emptied every time I restart TheBat. Means I have to enter (for example) t every time I restart TheBat, otherwise default display format is used. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.29 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hi Paul! I don't get IMAP calls when they use other email clients. Seems you have already found the answer to your problem. ...which comes back to the bottom line of my post which started this subthread: Ritlabs, please add long promised and paid state of the art features MOST mail client big players offer smootly to your planned state of the art interface! Or let me say it different: Focus on long promised stuff instead of talking to some kind of design bureau for a interface nobody here really needs. See, people go mad the same way with e.g. IMAP issues with fancy interface which shows the errors and a classic interface. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.24 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hi Paul! Seems you have already found the answer to your problem. Ritlabs, please add long promised and paid state of the art features MOST mail client big players offer smootly to your planned state of the art interface! I am confused, you said, please add...state of the art features MOST mail client big players offer... I do not understand why you are not using one of the big players if they are giving you what you are looking for. Because I like TheBat most of the time and for most of its features. Also because I'm from the southern part of Germany, to be exactly I'm a Swabian. Maybe you heard what is told about us: We look after our money and what we paid we want to have. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.24 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hi Vili! Friday, October 12, 2007, 6:06:15 PM: What's the situation? Any bètatesting for this version or... yes, it will be, You must wait, work in progress :-) release date I'm more interested if features promised for v2 will be available for v4. Or if this is just another milk the cows release. Sorry for being so optimistic about that. ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.24 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.0
Hi Gleason! Hasn't everyone seen this? Well maybe not, so here it is from the Ritlabs website: The largest-scale changes were made in The Bat!’s interface. Users will see a totally new program. [...] Sounds fancy and supports exactly what I wanted to say: A lot of cosmetic fixes and some fancy bright new colorful stuff but old issues aren't fixed. I think that a state of the art modern interface should come with state of the art features like IMAP and newsgroups ability. The last time I tried IMAP it did not work as it should, see here in the group. I especially had problems with filters and stuff like this. Also some other issues which makes IMAP completly unusable for me. Funny is that I paid for IMAP when I bought v2. Plus plus plus. But I'm really tired of talking this all and all over again. I'm complaining every six months or so about the company's politics and the priority of issues, bugs and stuff like this and it seems that I am the almost the only one who isn't happy with this. I agree that the TB interface should be state of the art. This is important for a lot of (new) customers. But don't forget the tons of to-do's you can see in the bug tracker and in the list of long promised features. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.24 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: beta/17
Hi Maxim, I'm missing most of my filters... three of four filters are gone... Are they gone for good? -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.17 (BETA) powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: beta/17
Hi Maxim, downgraded to 3.99.6, filters are back again and it looks like if all filters are back... Regards, Martin Monday, August 20, 2007, 3:56:52 PM: Hi Maxim, I'm missing most of my filters... three of four filters are gone... Are they gone for good? Regards, Martin smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP folder list synchronization
Hi Vilius! So this is the traditional stuff we are talking about? IMAP is a feature but does not work. Great... Welcome to the IMAPrevTB I already moved to Outlook 2007 for better IMAP and the only feature I'm missing now is messages thread view, which doesn't work well in Outlook. But the else is much better than pre-alpha version of TB!'s IMAP. You're completly right. IMAP in TheBat is in my opinion completly unusable. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. So bad that nobody from the creaters is ever paying attention to threads like this one. We'll, I think they are too busy with fancy stuff like graphicals smileys and tons of themes... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP folder list synchronization
Hi Stuart! 1) Simplify the folder name. Maybe move it to a known folder as a test. I'm not sure if an email address is a valid folder name for this purpose. Well, it's not a folder name, the mail address is the name of the POP3 account the message should get moved to. So you are moving it to a POP3 account. Well I just tried that and it works as well. Interesting. Very interesting. 2) Move your filter higher in the filter list. It may be that some other filter is acting on the message first and not triggering this new filter. This filter is the only active filter. Also it is the second filter in row (after one disabled filter). H, still works for me even after an inactive filter. Hm. It seems that IMAP is not working very well. Did some more testing and it seems to be general instability in IMAP. I created a new filter after restarting TB and it worked the first time, but then quit working. I then sent more test messages and it quit working. I then quit TB and then re-launched and it started working again. So this is the traditional stuff we are talking about? IMAP is a feature but does not work. Great... Don't know what to suaggest as Ritlabs does not seem to want to work on IMAP anymore in version 3. You mean that feature I paid for when upgrading from 1.x to 2.0? Or you mean the feature which was promised to work 2 years ago? Or you mean that feature I have to wait for and pay for version 4 first? Very unpleasant. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP folder list synchronization
Hi Stuart! No, it was one of the folders that did not change since the time I setup the IMAP account. In Manage IMAP folders the synchronize checkbox of this folder was not checked. I changed this and tried again, also disconnected from the IMAP server and connected again. No luck. I also tried to change the mail which should get moved to the local POP3 account to unread again. Also no luck. Is there something special I have to look at for IMAP filter rules which I simply forgot or do not know? Can you copy your filter and paste it here so we can test it? Sure. Here you are: TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [B2D0C457.01C75DDB.16084EC0.30C8CBC2] Name: Test Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder [EMAIL PROTECTED] IsActive Ignore endFilter -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP folder list synchronization
Hi Stuart! Can you copy your filter and paste it here so we can test it? Sure. Here you are: In general the filter seems to work OK. Two things you may want to try. 1) Simplify the folder name. Maybe move it to a known folder as a test. I'm not sure if an email address is a valid folder name for this purpose. Well, it's not a folder name, the mail address is the name of the POP3 account the message should get moved to. 2) Move your filter higher in the filter list. It may be that some other filter is acting on the message first and not triggering this new filter. This filter is the only active filter. Also it is the second filter in row (after one disabled filter). -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP folder list synchronization
Hi all, again I tried my luck with IMAP. I was very unlucky again. Just wanted to make sure that the problem isn't sitting in front of the computer... ;-) I created several folders on my test mailbox the last weeks using the webmail interface. Also there are several mails in the Inbox and the created folders. I pressed Recieve new mails in TB. Following three problems: 1) I created a filter which should move mails with a certain sender in a certain folder to a folder in another TB account. Nothing happened. The reason I like to do this: I want to store mails local because of the huge size and numbers, also I use TB a lot of when being offline. The reason I want to use IMAP instead of POP3: I need to create folders on the mailserver because I get ~200 mails a day and cannot reasonable read these mails online via webmail without sorting this serverside to folders. 2) TB does not show the new folders and I did not find any way to initiate something like this. 3) Inbox appeared bold and showed the number of new mails not until I clicked onto it. As I said, maybe not a TB problem, but I just wanted to be sure. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP folder list synchronization
Hi Stuart! Following three problems: 1) I created a filter which should move mails with a certain sender in a certain folder to a folder in another TB account. Nothing happened. The reason I like to do this: I want to store mails local because of the huge size and numbers, also I use TB a lot of when being offline. The reason I want to use IMAP instead of POP3: I need to create folders on the mailserver because I get ~200 mails a day and cannot reasonable read these mails online via webmail without sorting this serverside to folders. This should work, it does here. You mention below you can't see all your folders, is the one it is supposed to move to one of the ones you can't see? If so se below. No, it was one of the folders that did not change since the time I setup the IMAP account. In Manage IMAP folders the synchronize checkbox of this folder was not checked. I changed this and tried again, also disconnected from the IMAP server and connected again. No luck. I also tried to change the mail which should get moved to the local POP3 account to unread again. Also no luck. Is there something special I have to look at for IMAP filter rules which I simply forgot or do not know? 2) TB does not show the new folders and I did not find any way to initiate something like this. Right click on the account name and select Manage IMAP folders. Then select Reset List. You can now mange each folder in terms of synchronization. Ah thank you. Clearly a problem which sat in front of the computer. ;-) Worked as you described. 3) Inbox appeared bold and showed the number of new mails not until I clicked onto it. This sometimes happens and seems to be a bug. Well ok no big problem for me. But this filter problem really is a showstopper for me in my particular setup I want to run here (as described in my first mail). -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99.5
Hi all, up and running with OTFE... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.99.5 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! hang at startup under Windows Vista
Hi Maxim! Can anybody confim that The Bat! hangs with 50% CPU utilization when you run The Bat! under Windows Vista in 3.98.06? Yes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6271 I personally did not try .6 on Vista yet. When having problems with the previous versions TB took over 90% CPU. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! hang at startup under Windows Vista
Hi Maxim! Yes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6271 I personally did not try .6 on Vista yet. When having problems with the previous versions TB took over 90% CPU. Your message is quite contradicting: by saying Yes you are asserting that 3.98.06 hangs on Vista, and further you are writing that haven't yet tried .6 on Vista. Could you please try .6 on Vista and let us know the results? I was referring to the results of John C (see bug tracker). When I was having problems with previous version (.5 and earlier) TB hung with more than 90% CPU. I will try it with Vista, be back tomorrow or so with results. Vista only runs on my notebook which I use for traveling mostly. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.4
Hi Maxim, up and running with OTFE and Vista. Default program also worked. :-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.4 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat 3.98.2.2 on Vista
Hi Maxim, well, it showed up that another person (JOhn C) is having the same problem, also just from time to time. See bug tracker. So it is an issue you should have a closer look at. Problem is that I cannot tell you anything more at the moment... :-/ BTW: No problems so far with 3.98.3. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.3 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.98.2.2 resolves the editor save issue
Hi Maxim, as 3.98.1 (haven't reported that) it does not start on Vista. thebat.exe shows up with 95-99% CPU in task manager but does not do anything after asking for the master password. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.2 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.98.02
Hello all! Nope - it's a show stopper!!! (Reverting right now). I can't actually send a message with this version. Confirmed, same problem here. I also cannot send some of the messages. Sometimes it works when deactivating S/MIME signature, sometimes not. A real show stopper for me, too. Problem is, that 3.98.1 and 3.98.2.2 don't work here on Vista... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.2 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Again: lost folders in folder-list!
Hi Alexander! I will do so. Although I don't have much faith that something is happening because of this entry into bugtracker. Have you removed the old config files from your account directory? Maybe TB mistakenly used your old folder config file for whatever reason (which surely is a bug). No not yet. I don't have much time left right now. When I'm at home I'm still working on my server. This is also the reason why I transfered TB to my Vista notebook for a while... Were it always the same folders disappearing? No. Randomly any folder was/could be affected. You should post the URL to the BT entry here so that those who confirmed it (Alto and Mark IIRC) can easily add their confirmations to it. Good point! :-) https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6245 -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.2 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Again: lost folders in folder-list!
Hi Miguel! I'm wondering if your lost folders could be a consequence of this. Hmmm, I don't think so. As you see above the procedure is very easy to handle. Anyway, if I was you (and if you can live with it), I wouldn't do any 'synchronization' for a while and see if TB looses any folders then. I had to because I still have some work to do on the server. Because of this I had to transfer TB to my Vista notebook for a while. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.2 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Again: lost folders in folder-list!
Hi Alexander! Thank you for that link. I will go through this when I have some time and passion left. ;-) Well, given your passionate :-) posts here, there should be plenty! ;-) *fg* Time is always a problem here and cannot be solved by new TB versions. ;-) But I will have a look at this site and delete the old files. Two reasons: First because I don't want to have trash on my hard drive and second to be sure that this is not the reason for this lost folder thing. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.2 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.98.02
Hi Marek! Nope - it's a show stopper!!! (Reverting right now). I can't actually send a message with this version. Confirmed, same problem here. I also cannot send some of the messages. Sometimes it works when deactivating S/MIME signature, sometimes not. A real show stopper for me, too. Problem is, that 3.98.1 and 3.98.2.2 don't work here on Vista... try 3.98.2.2, problem with sending messages was fixed in this build. Yeah, could be, but this version does not work here... ;-) BTW about Vista, did You reported it in Bugtraq? Yes I have: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6271 It's interesting that not many people seem to be affected by this Vista problem. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.2 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat 3.98.2.2 on Vista
Hi Maxim! I cannot reproduce the bug https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6271 It runs well on Vista here. Can you send any clues? Interesting. I tried again and this time it worked. Had the same problem with version 3.98.1 yesterday. I tried this version 4 or 5 times and it never worked and just produced 99% cpu in task manager. Now I reinstalled 3.98.2.2, started it, it worked. I quit TB and started it again - did not work... Then I restarted TB several times (4-5) and it always worked. Strange... -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.2.2 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: (no subject)
Hi Maxim, up and running with OTFE. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.3 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.98.02
Hi Simon! It's interesting that not many people seem to be affected by this Vista problem. Are many people running Vista though? :) Hm, good point. ;-) Not really Beta related, but how are you finding it with your apps and hardware? I don't know if you have seen the BBC website article here; makes interesting reading for folks considering Vista -: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6407419.stm We've had a number of test units running at the office with Vista installations both Beta and Release it's been a mixed bag of joy, pain and disaster! One thing is clear, the Microsoft Upgrade Adviser cannot be trusted, very often no=yes and yes=no :) Well, really bit of off-topic, but interesting anyway. Looking at all pros and cons I'm happy with Vista. Vista takes a lot of hardware. My notebook is a Pentium M 740 (Centrino) with 1.73GHz and 1GB of RAM. Starting Vista without any programs installed takes 540MB of RAM. Now with all applications installed it takes a bit more (startup stuff etc pp) and the system partition with 15GB is nearly full. I suggest 20GB as system partition of you don't use it for My document or stuff like TB data files. It recognized most of my hardware on install, the rest excluding the card reader (I used the HP driver for that) was recognized after the first Windows Update. On my client it did not recognize a Adaptec 2940U (!) and a Creative Soundblaster Live! Audigy. I did not try to get drivers for this (working on my server takes a lot of time...) but it did confuse me. Most of all the Adaptec 2940U. I need this thing because of the expensive HP scanner I'm running with this card. Look and feel is great, I also like the new security stuff. You work as a normal user now and if a program needs administrative rights a check box appears. Games seem to be a problem, but Quake 3 Arena runs. ;-) And I don't need anything more. Also the 64 bit version seems to be a problem, too. Lack of drivers. What I'm really having problems with are the PC-Card cards I'm running. Most of them don't work anymore. No drivers. But I think this will be solved in the next weeks/months. I also installed Office 2007 but did not use it exept opening and printing existing documents (Word and Excel). This really looks strange but all people tell me that for beginners it has a lot of advantages. For me as a Office since Word 6.0 user it looks very confusing. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.98.3 powered by Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.98.02.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Again: lost folders in folder-list!
Hi all, Hi Alexander! It took a while for me to come back to this thread. Sorry. Had a lot of things to do, including server upgrade... ;-) Talking about unconstructive stuff we should talk about Paul first... ;-) Well, its only natural that your tone of voice triggers similar responses. I remember we talked about that via PM a long long time ago. Could be. To be honest, I'm not sure. Has been a while, hasn't it? I posted this on December, 6th, 2005, and nothing happened exept one post from Roelof. Also no suggestion or some questions regarding my special environment from Ritlabs. As Miguel suggests you should at least log the occurence of the bug in the bugtracker. I will do so. Although I don't have much faith that something is happening because of this entry into bugtracker. . . . Done... :-) Talking about serious things I cannot find anything really working how it should when trying to use IMAP, which was a promised feature in v3, or was it v2?!? And yes, I also tried on a standard WinXP machine. Well, it is using a Pentium M processor like my server, so it's not standard anymore... ;-) But sorry for getting off-topic... I'm using IMAP, and except for the message counters, I'm very happy with the performance. I'm using Mulberry (the IMAP client as they say) at work to peek into my private mails now and then, and I must say that I prefer TB's performance and appearance over Mulberry. Ah interesting. Maybe I should give IMAP another try. Thank you for this information! :-) I also do not have TB files stored in my user profile. So in theory they're accessible from every account? Yes. But as I am the only person using this computer and the only person who knows the program password I consider it safe. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.95.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.96.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Again: lost folders in folder-list!
Hi Miguel! Well if you think so. I posted this on December, 6th, 2005, and nothing happened exept one post from Roelof. Also no suggestion or some questions regarding my special environment from Ritlabs. And... did you open any BT report? Even though they may take no action, Ritlabs looks at BT reports. While you can never be sure they will read what is posted in this list. I filed a report a few minutes ago. Hopefully it has more effect on Ritlabs than this thread here in the beta list. Also, you seem to have had this 'lost folders' problem more than once and with different versions. However, there are many users like me, using TB since version 1.x and testing 99% of the betas since then, who have never lost a single folder and I have around 500 of them on the average. Without completely discarding a possible TB bug, don't you think there must be something in your 'peculiar' configuration that is causing or inducing this problem? Well, to be honest: I don't know for sure. I'm pretty sure that my configuration isn't special or different to the normal configuration, but I cannot be 100% sure. From what I wrote here: Do you think there is something special? I cannot see anything extraordinary. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.95.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.96.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Again: lost folders in folder-list!
Hi Mark! I have better things to do than reporting about folders disappearing from TB! It's something that has been going on for years and I have to type in the names one by one every time. It often takes some time before I see they have disapeared (f.i. when a message that should have been filtered to it stays in the inbox) because a lot of the folders are seldom used. Same here. It takes time until I see that folders are missing. By then I cannot say when they got lost. I have about 200 folders in my main account and do not use every folder every day. BTW: I can imagine solving this problem in an OFTE setup can be more time-consuming. VERY time-consuming because you have to use several tools to sync the folders in folder view and on the hard drive. I don't lie when I write that this takes hours. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.95.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.96.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Again: lost folders in folder-list!
Hi Miguel! A second reason is that I often sychronize TB to my notebook. For this the quickest solution is synchronizing the TB directory (everything, which means program files plus data files, is inside this directory) to the same location (in my environment D:\INTERNET\TheBat) plus copying the registry keys. How do you do/achieve synchronisation? I'm doing a binary compare of the contents of source and destination folder with a nice little tool. If something does not match at the destination it gets overwritten by the source. After that I import the registry settings into the registry on the destination computer. The TB directories are at the same place, D:\INTERNET\TheBat! . I'm wondering if your lost folders could be a consequence of this. Hmmm, I don't think so. As you see above the procedure is very easy to handle. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v3.95.6 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.96.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
