Re: PGP 7.0.3

2001-02-16 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Alexander!

On Friday, February 16, 2001 at 5:27:58 AM you wrote:

 Mon ami, I'm using 6.5.8 so what ? It doesn't change my opinion !

Didn't intend to.

 And You don't know of course, about multiply unsuitable things and bugs in
 realization of especially Russian part of PGP plug-in.

You are right - but not of course.

 Moreover Stefan and Co know about that situation long time enough
 (more than year). That's why I used the only exact word, that may be
 applied to "charmed" PGP plug-in: STUPIDEST.

OK, I take your meaning in this case as "there has to be work done,
because a per se good thing is not working the way it should". No prob
with this meaning, I have said one or two times the same as there are
some (minor) inconveniences with the plug in (Comment block additions,
version showing).

It would be a good idea to use plug ins which are made by NAI (or
other compilers and programmers) since they know what their versions
of PGP can. TB! have made some plug ins that suit a lot of different
PGP versions.

And - on my side, that is - the plug in makes life easier.


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Re: POP before SMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Thomas!

On Friday, February 16, 2001 at 3:23:55 AM you wrote:

 We have a found a buglet: When "POP before SMTP" is tickmarked, TB
 will always do "Combined Delivery", regardless of whether "Combined
 Delivery" is tickmarked or not.

Sounds more like a (helpful) feature. When you want to send messages
you must have both receiving delivering at once. Now, I find some
logic in the way TB! handles "Receiving" with "POP before SMTP"
checked.

It don't have to be this way but it safes one mouseclick.

Since I did check "Combined ..." when I had to use this scheme, I
cannot really confirm what you found; it always worked like that on my
machines. And now I use "SMTP Authentication", funny enough without
combined delivery. Seems I am not that consistent in my life ;-).


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Syncing with Palm Addresses ... was Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Peter Chiou

Hello Nick,

Thursday, February 15, 2001, 11:49:53 PM, you wrote:

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Nick On February 15, 2001, at 10:54:59 PM, Peter Chiou Wrote:

PC Thanks! That's exactly what I did and it worked.

Nick I did the same thing, although I found it wasn't as smooth an operation
Nick as it should have been. Nonetheless, I was able to import my Contacts,
Nick but I had to do a lot of changing afterwards.

Nick Outlook 98 is a good Program, but it's a PIM and not simply an E-Mail
Nick Program like TB! is, so it isn't really fair to try and compare the two.
Nick I have switched over to TB! here at home, but at work they still make us
Nick use Outlook 98.


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Re: POP before SMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Thomas

Hi Dierk,

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:05:22 +0100GMT (16/02/2001, 16:05 +0800GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

 We have a found a buglet: When "POP before SMTP" is tickmarked, TB
 will always do "Combined Delivery", regardless of whether "Combined
 Delivery" is tickmarked or not.

DH Sounds more like a (helpful) feature. When you want to send messages
DH you must have both receiving delivering at once. Now, I find some
DH logic in the way TB! handles "Receiving" with "POP before SMTP"
DH checked.

Did you notice that TB will log into the POP server with the
Delivering window when the option is checked? This satisfied the
authorization request.

DH It don't have to be this way but it safes one mouseclick.

That's why I also always use combined delivery. However, if TB forces
combined, why do we have the option to untick it?

DH Since I did check "Combined ..." when I had to use this scheme, I
DH cannot really confirm what you found;

Uncheck it and you will see that TB still behaves as if it was still
checked.

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Re: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Jannik Lindquist

Hello Peter,

On Friday, February 16, 2001 at 22:10:35 -0800 Peter wrote on "Importing Outlook
Contacts":

PC Ok,  there has to be a way for a new Bat user like me to import all my
PC outlook  contacts  into  TB  all at one time.

Go to the Ritlabs beta-page and download the tool called "Wab2Ldif". It converts
the standard windows AB-format to the Ldif-format used by TB:

http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html

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Autoresponder template: how do I make one?

2001-02-16 Thread Confusion Feedback

Hey Bat!niks,
I tried. I really have tried. But I have no idea how to tame templates to my needs 
(and it looked so simple!).
People send me messages, via an online form, often requesting information from a 
drop-down list of *lots* of items. All I wanted to do was make a template which would 
look to 
see which particular info they were after (in the body of their message to me), and 
then incorporate this info (from a text file, I guess) into my reply. Now, I gathered 
that I could 
make the program somehow search for every possible info request and use an if/or 
statement to insert the right text...but can I just grab the text (say 'apple' or 
'orange') from the 
message and insert 'apple.txt' or 'orange.txt' into my reply? Can someone point me to 
a suitable reference or lend a hand, bearing in mind that I have more patience than 
techy 
knowledge?

Thanking you,
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Re: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Jannik,

Friday, February 16, 2001, 6:46:07 AM, you wrote:

PC Ok,  there has to be a way for a new Bat user like me to import all my
PC outlook  contacts  into  TB  all at one time.

 Go to the Ritlabs beta-page and download the tool called "Wab2Ldif". It converts
 the standard windows AB-format to the Ldif-format used by TB:

 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html

This will convert from Outlook Express *.wab format not Outlook, first
import  to  OE  from OL to use the convertor. Additionally the pst-wab
conversion  will  not  take place in OE if OL is used in Internet Mode
Only, it will only work if OL is used in corporate mode.


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Re: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Thomas

Hi Mark,

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:03:24 +GMT (16/02/2001, 17:03 +0800GMT),
Mark Aston wrote:

MA This will convert from Outlook Express *.wab format not Outlook, first
MA import  to  OE  from OL to use the convertor. Additionally the pst-wab
MA conversion  will  not  take place in OE if OL is used in Internet Mode
MA Only, it will only work if OL is used in corporate mode.

Wow. Someone told me the MS products are for people who know not much
about computers. I have never used OL or OE, but what you say there
sounds so complicated that I'd rather use The Bat!. Thanks for scaring
me off of MS.

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Re: Syncing with Palm Addresses ... was Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Peter,

On 16 February 2001 at  23:54:29 -0800 (which was 07:54 where I  live)
Peter Chiou wrote and made these points:

PC Do you know of a way to sync your address book in TB! with a Palm
PC device?

This topic is covered in the FAQ.

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Re: Check Name

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Peter,

On 16 February 2001 at  22:56:36 -0800 (which was 06:56 where I  live)
Peter Chiou wrote and made these points:

PC ... In Outlook ... Check Name ... Is there a similar function in
PC TB?

Yes - there is an *exact* equivalent to this function: Ctrl+Plus.

HTH

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Re[2]: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Gordon

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Hi Batpersons,

On or about, Friday, February 16, 2001, 9:13:05 AM, we have reason to believe that 
Thomas wrote:

T Wow. Someone told me the MS products are for people who know not much
T about computers. I have never used OL or OE, but what you say there
T sounds so complicated that I'd rather use The Bat!. Thanks for scaring
T me off of MS.


To be scrupulously fair to MS, if you're only going to use either OL
or OE for your email, you're not going to encounter this kind of
complexity. Funnily enough, the people who have the problem are the
semi-power-users

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Re: Autoresponder template: how do I make one?

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Confusion,

On 16 February 2001 at  18:47:37 +1000 (which was 08:47 where I  live)
Confusion Feedback wrote and made these points:

CF People send me messages, via an online form, often requesting
CF information from a drop-down list of *lots* of items. All I wanted
CF to do was make a template which would look to see which particular
CF info they were after (in the body of their message to me), and
CF then incorporate this info (from a text file, I guess) into my
CF reply. Now, I gathered that I could make the program somehow
CF search for every possible info request and use an if/or statement
CF to insert the right text...but can I just grab the text (say
CF 'apple' or 'orange') from the message and insert 'apple.txt' or
CF 'orange.txt' into my reply? Can someone point me to a suitable
CF reference or lend a hand, bearing in mind that I have more
CF patience than techy knowledge?

There is a quick and dirty way to do this - set up a filter for each
permutation of incoming message with the requisite template being
pulled by responding to the trigger. This is a pretty straightforward
way to do things and should be simple enough for you to set up for
yourself.

The self maintaining, versatile and clever way to do it is to write a
regular expression macro which can do exactly what you are asking but
you will probably need some help to create it.

If you want to employ the latter method, I suggest that you redirect
the reply to TBTECH (details below) and the "gurus" there can help
out.

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Re[2]: Syncing with Palm Addresses ... was Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Marck,

Friday, February 16, 2001, 5:40:37 AM, you wrote:

PC Do you know of a way to sync your address book in TB! with a Palm
PC device?

MDP This topic is covered in the FAQ.

Did I miss it in the Archive?  If you are referring to the Palm Sync
part of the FAQ I wrote, it only does mail sync... If so, I would say
the only way to "sync" would be export/import (not really a "sync"
though).

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Re: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Thomas,

Friday, February 16, 2001, 9:13:05 AM, you wrote:

 Wow. Someone told me the MS products are for people who know not much
 about computers. I have never used OL or OE, but what you say there
 sounds so complicated that I'd rather use The Bat!. Thanks for scaring
 me off of MS.

MS  certainly  don't  encourage  you to change MUA's, there are people
forced  to  use  OE  if  they have a Microsoft Network account, as the
Secure Password Authentication is proprietary to OE.


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Re: Syncing with Palm Addresses ... was Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Tim,

On 16 February 2001 at  08:05:00 -0500 (which was 13:05 where I  live)
Tim Musson wrote and made these points:

PC Do you know of a way to sync your address book in TB! with a Palm
PC device?

MDP This topic is covered in the FAQ.

TM Did I miss it in the Archive? If you are referring to the Palm
TM Sync part of the FAQ I wrote, it only does mail sync... If so, I
TM would say the only way to "sync" would be export/import (not
TM really a "sync" though).

Oops! I must book up for those reading lessons real soon! g

Sorry to mislead.

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Note to Moderators (no subjects)

2001-02-16 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello TB Moderators.

  When I first started on this list, I would, on occasion, subject my
  msgs "a simple question"  was *properly* lambasted for not
  providing a meaningful subject line for the convenience of other
  list members.

  Over time I have recognized the "truth" of this courtesy which is a
  long way of saying that we are getting a fair number of (No Subject)
  msgs on this list.

  Maybe a refresher from the moderators would be timely. Thank you.

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Re: Note to Moderators (no subjects)

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Jan,

On 16 February 2001 at  08:38:33 -0500 (which was 13:38 where I  live)
Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points:

JR When I first started on this list, I would, on occasion, subject
JR my msgs "a simple question"  was *properly* lambasted for not
JR providing a meaningful subject line for the convenience of other
JR list members.

JR Over time I have recognized the "truth" of this courtesy which is
JR a long way of saying that we are getting a fair number of (No
JR Subject) msgs on this list.

JR Maybe a refresher from the moderators would be timely. Thank you.

A timely and well phrased reminder Jan. Thank you for that.

Yes, it is perfectly true that message subjects are getting less clear
and I would certainly like to see that improve.

moderator
So, posters, please try to make your Subject heading pertinent and
clear when writing to the list.

Thank you.
/moderator

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Re[2]: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Jannik Lindquist

Hello Mark,

Friday, February 16, 2001, 10:03:24 AM, you wrote:

PC Ok,  there has to be a way for a new Bat user like me to import all my
PC outlook  contacts  into  TB  all at one time.

 Go to the Ritlabs beta-page and download the tool called "Wab2Ldif". It converts
 the standard windows AB-format to the Ldif-format used by TB:

 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html

MA This will convert from Outlook Express *.wab format not Outlook, first
MA import  to  OE  from OL to use the convertor. Additionally the pst-wab
MA conversion  will  not  take place in OE if OL is used in Internet Mode
MA Only, it will only work if OL is used in corporate mode.

You are quite right, but I thought that it would be easier to export
from OL to OE and then to TB - than to export to a CSV-format and
fiddle with fields :-)

Apparently the original problem has now been solved - but for the sake
of the general TB-enlightenment I add another address. This is to a
beta-version of a programme - called "Dawn" - that *will* export from
OL to TB (and from and to myriads of other AB's):

http://www.internettrash.com/users/zakharin/


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Need help. Filters doesn't work.

2001-02-16 Thread Shahar

Hello TB! fellows.
I have two accounts. One is my main email address and the second is dedicated
to all my mailing list messages, I get all my messages to the second
account.

In my first account I have a special directory with subdirectories
for my lists subjects and filters that moves new mail to the right
subdirectory.

I did this change today:
Instead of retrieve my mailing list messages to my main account, where my
filters are, I retrieve it to my second account. In my second account
I have a single filter that moves every message to my main account
inbox.

Since this change my filters, In my main account, does not respond and all my mailing 
list
messages remain in my main account inbox.

I need your help to make my filters work again.

TIA.



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Re[2]: POP before SMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Deniz Baygan

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Dear Thomas,

Friday, February 16, 2001, 4:23:55 AM, you wrote:

 I just played with it a bit.

 You are right, two windows are being opened.

 The first one is entitled "Delivering Mail". The first action this
 does is "Connecting to POP Server". After this has been successful,
 the amil is then sent via the SMTP server. This is as it has always
 been. One window.

 But here is the second window popping up, entitled: "Receiving Mail".
 Oops, did I check Combined Delivery? No, unchecked. Closed TB and
 reopen. Option still unchecked, but when I  hit "send messages", TB
 will at the same time "check messages".

It doesn't receive any new mail.
When combined delivery is unchecked but still being opened.
I just want 1 window to open as it is since 1.47
This may be a bug or at least a forgotten issue.

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Re: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Mark Aston

Hi Jannik,

Friday, February 16, 2001, 2:54:44 PM, you wrote:

 Apparently the original problem has now been solved - but for the sake
 of the general TB-enlightenment I add another address. This is to a
 beta-version of a programme - called "Dawn" - that *will* export from
 OL to TB (and from and to myriads of other AB's):

 http://www.internettrash.com/users/zakharin/

Excellent  tip,  looks  like a neat program, perhaps there should be a
link from TB! FAQ


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Re: Need help. Filters doesn't work.

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

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On February 16, 2001, at 7:11:10 AM, Shahar Wrote:

S Since this change my filters, In my main account, does not respond
S and all my mailing list messages remain in my main account inbox.

Check the filter that moves the Mailing List messages over, and make
sure you have checked "Continue Processing With Other Filters" which you
will find under the "Options" tab within the filter menu.


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Re[3]: POP before SMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi Deniz,

...
DB I just want 1 window to open as it is since 1.47
DB This may be a bug or at least a forgotten issue.

I still do not understand why this is such a problem for you.
The pop-window comes up and disappears shortly after - so what?

If I think about it: the new approach looks quite useful to me.
It allows you to easily see whether there is a problem with
the pop server or the smtp server.

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Re[4]: POP before SMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Deniz Baygan

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Dear Wolfgang,

Friday, February 16, 2001, 6:11:18 PM, you wrote:

 I still do not understand why this is such a problem for you.
 The pop-window comes up and disappears shortly after - so what?

it's just *disturbing* me and *useless*

 If I think about it: the new approach looks quite useful to me.
 It allows you to easily see whether there is a problem with
 the pop server or the smtp server.

Yes, you may enjoy it.
But there should be a *turn off* option.

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Re: Need help. Filters doesn't work.

2001-02-16 Thread Shahar

Nick,

S Since this change my filters, In my main account, does not respond
S and all my mailing list messages remain in my main account inbox.

 Check the filter that moves the Mailing List messages over, and make
 sure you have checked "Continue Processing With Other Filters" which you
 will find under the "Options" tab within the filter menu.


I did it but still no change.



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Re: Need help. Filters doesn't work.

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

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On February 16, 2001, at 9:38:47 AM, Shahar Wrote:

S I did it but still no change.

Ok, then let's look at what criteria you are using to filter that mail.
Just so I understand what you are doing: You receive Mailing List Mail
from Account B, and filter those messages to Account A, wanting Account
A's filters to then take over and filter the received messages, correct?

What exactly are you filtering on? To, From, Subject, X-MDMailing List,
etc? From my experience, it was always best to filter on X-MDMailing
List if the header exists, and failing that, Reply-To followed by To,
but making sure that you use only the actual address that is usually
contained within the [EMAIL PROTECTED] angle brackets and making sure
to remove the brackets as well.


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Re: Need help. Filters doesn't work.

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Shahar,

On 16 February 2001 at  17:11:10 +0200 (which was 15:11 where I  live)
Shahar wrote and made these points:

S Since this change my filters, In my main account, does not respond
S and all my mailing list messages remain in my main account inbox.

S I need your help to make my filters work again.

There is sadly not a lot of help that can be given other than to
replicate the entire filter system in the second account or put it
back the way it was.

Filters are applied *while importing received messages*. Messages that
are placed in the inbox of another account by a filter will *not* be
filtered again.

Accounts operate independently. The automatic operation of filters
occurs as part of a receive cycle. This is Account 2's receive cycle.
Account 1's filters are not running.

The only other thing you can do is to manually re-filter the account 1
inbox.

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Inserting .jpg image in email...

2001-02-16 Thread Peter Chiou

Hello tbUDL,

   Is  there a way to paste an image into an email? I know TB! doesn't
   generate  html  messages  but  pasting  it as an attachment without
   saving the image first would be helpful.


Best regards,
Peter



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Re: Need help. Filters doesn't work.

2001-02-16 Thread Shahar

Marck,

 The only other thing you can do is to manually re-filter the account 1
 inbox.

Thank you Marck and Nick for your help. Hope to find another solution.

Thanks.



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Re: Need help. Filters doesn't work.

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

On February 16, 2001, at 11:31:53 AM, Marck D. Pearlstone Wrote:

MDP Filters are applied *while importing received messages*. Messages that
MDP are placed in the inbox of another account by a filter will *not* be
MDP filtered again.

What about right clicking the Inbox after the messages have been
filtered there, and then manually choosing 'Re-filter Messages'?


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Re: Need help. Filters doesn't work.

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

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On February 16, 2001, at 7:11:10 AM, Shahar Wrote:

S Instead of retrieve my mailing list messages to my main account,
S where my filters are, I retrieve it to my second account. In my
S second account I have a single filter that moves every message to my
S main account inbox.

Shahar, why don't you revisit your decision to have two separate
Accounts. Why are you wanting all Mailing Lists going to the 2nd
Account, to then only be filtered back to the 1st Account? Is there a
problem with the Servers on one of the Accounts?


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Re: Inserting .jpg image in email...

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Peter,

On 16 February 2001 at  11:45:00 -0800 (which was 19:45 where I  live)
Peter Chiou wrote and made these points:

PCIs  there a way to paste an image into an email? I know TB! doesn't
PCgenerate  html  messages  but  pasting  it as an attachment without
PCsaving the image first would be helpful.

TB can only attach a file to a message. Ergo, the image must first be
saved to a file to *be* attached. Sorry 'bout that.

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Updated PGP Plugin for 6.5.8?

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

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Has anyone contacted RITLabs as to the possibility of coming out with an
updated PGP Plugin for 6.5.8 at least? By "updated", I mean one in which
the correct version of PGP is shown, along with a change in the
verification process such that the antiquated PGPLog will not be used,
but something along the lines of:

*** PGP Signature Status: good
*** Signer: Marck D. Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*** Signed: 16/02/01 12:19:39 PM
*** Verified: 16/02/01 12:29:13 PM
*** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE ***

Which seems to be the standard method employed now through most all
other Mail Clients. The reason I ask, is that the release of PGP 7.0.3's
source code could very well be delayed until NAI comes out with their
Personal Privacy Edition.


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Re: Need help. Filters doesn't work.

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Nick,

On 16 February 2001 at  12:20:11 -0800 (which was 20:20 where I  live)
Nick Andriash wrote and made these points:


MDP Filters are applied *while importing received messages*.
MDP Messages that are placed in the inbox of another account by a
MDP filter will *not* be filtered again.

NA What about right clicking the Inbox after the messages have been
NA filtered there, and then manually choosing 'Re-filter Messages'?

Indeed - which is what I meant when I said:

MDP The only other thing you can do is to manually re-filter the
MDP account 1 inbox.

at the end of my posting :-). Thanks for making the mechanism for
doing that clear - I should have said so.

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Re: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Mark Aston

Hi ,

Friday, February 16, 2001, 3:33:13 PM, you wrote:

 beta-version of a programme - called "Dawn" - that *will* export from
 OL to TB (and from and to myriads of other AB's):

 http://www.internettrash.com/users/zakharin/

 Excellent  tip,  looks  like a neat program, perhaps there should be a
 link from TB! FAQ

Seems  I spoke too soon, just tried this app and it didn't work on the
2  tests I gave it. OLLDIF and LDIFPegasus In both cases it produced
a zero byte file and closed down.



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Re: Updated PGP Plugin for 6.5.8?

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Nick,

On 16 February 2001 at  12:31:50 -0800 (which was 20:31 where I  live)
Nick Andriash wrote and made these points:

NA Has anyone contacted RITLabs as to the possibility of coming out
NA with an updated PGP Plugin for 6.5.8 at least?

I wrote to them two weeks ago asking about PGP 7 support, V2 and a
couple of other things. They didn't respond to any of it :-(.

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Re[2]: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Jannik Lindquist

Hi Mark,

On Friday, February 16, 2001 at 15:33:13 + Mark wrote on "Importing Outlook 
Contacts":

 http://www.internettrash.com/users/zakharin/

MA Excellent  tip,  looks  like a neat program, perhaps there should be a
MA link from TB! FAQ

As a matter of fact, I got the tip from the German TB-page -
http://www.BatMail.de - so all credit should go to the German TB-users :-)

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Documenation woes

2001-02-16 Thread Lyle Scully

Hello Everyone,

Every day I get asked about alternatives to Eudora, Outlook, or
Netscape, and what I use. When I tell them that I use The Bat! they
are very curious why I don't use one of the above. When I tell them my
reasons (Eudora - Slow and buggy, suffering from useless features.
Outlook - a virii haven, and typical of MS products, bloat. Netscape -
won't even go there)
  
When asked if I thought that Bat would be good for my client though, I
almost always say No. Why would I do that if it is such a good
program? Simple...documentation.

I am the CTO for a medium sized ISP here in the US, and 90% of my
clients are businesses that don't have time to sit and fiddle with a
program to figure it out. The lack of even remotely updated
documentation really hurts this product. The only person I could tell
to use the program is one that is more like me. A wirehead.

My clients would LOVE the filters in this thing. It is relatively
easy to figure out, but only if you spend the time. And the PGP
support needs to advance.

Thanks for listening to my rant. I love The Bat! and would pay again
for the honor of using it, but someone needs to work on the
documentation sooner rather than later.

Lyle

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Re: Documenation woes

2001-02-16 Thread Peter Chiou

Hello Lyle,

Friday, February 16, 2001, 2:15:16 PM, you wrote:

Lyle I love The Bat! and would pay again
Lyle for the honor of using it, but someone needs to work on the
Lyle documentation sooner rather than later.


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Re: Documenation woes

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

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On February 16, 2001, at 2:15:16 PM, Lyle Scully Wrote:

LS I am the CTO for a medium sized ISP here in the US, and 90% of my
LS clients are businesses that don't have time to sit and fiddle with a
LS program to figure it out. The lack of even remotely updated
LS documentation really hurts this product. The only person I could tell
LS to use the program is one that is more like me. A wirehead

Yes, I tend to agree with you about the lack of documentation. However,
if you are the SysAdmin for your Company, would it not be possible to
set up TB! on the Workstations already pre-configured in some fashion.
Out of the box, TB! is relatively easy to use, and once they become more
accustomed to it, you could perhaps increase the permissions level
allowing them access to more of TB!'s features.


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Re: Documenation woes

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

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On February 16, 2001, at 2:27:39 PM, Peter Chiou Wrote:

PC Hear  hear.  That  would be great indeed. I am also in the same boat -
PC would love to recommend it but hesitate due to lack of documentation.

Yes Peter, but look how far you've come in a very short period of time.
It doesn't take long at all to master the basics of TB!. I find
Outlook's documentation just as lacking, but more importantly, once you
get into the Program, you are even more disappointed when you find out
what Outlook cannot do. :o(


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Re: Documenation woes

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Lyle,

On 16 February 2001 at  15:15:16 -0700 (which was 22:15 where I  live)
Lyle Scully wrote and made these points:

LS When asked if I thought that Bat would be good for my client
LS though, I almost always say No. Why would I do that if it is such
LS a good program? Simple...documentation.

snip

LS Thanks for listening to my rant. I love The Bat! and would pay
LS again for the honor of using it, but someone needs to work on the
LS documentation sooner rather than later.

Thank you Lyle for an eloquently stated and well made point. I can do
nothing but agree with you. Dieter Hummel has re-written the help in
German for German users. It would be great if something similar could
be done with the English language help.

Having said that, with v2 on the "horizon", there has been a
reluctance to re-document a version of the software who's "time is
running out".

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Re[5]: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Lija


SNIPPED!

PC Yes, you're right. sorry.

Jesus, what a jerk you are!! Are you fucking lunatic?
Do you consider that these forums are some playground for idiots like you?


To Moderators:
I know, I was too rude, but please take some action against cretins like this
guy was!
I apologize to other subscribers!

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Re: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

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L I apologize to other subscribers!

Not accepted! You are the first to cause me to make a Kill File on this
List, and your are, or course, it's first member!


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Re: Documenation woes

2001-02-16 Thread Karin Spaink

On 16-02-2001 at 23:32, Nick Andriash kindly wrote:
 On February 16, 2001, at 2:15:16 PM, Lyle Scully Wrote:

LS I am the CTO for a medium sized ISP here in the US, and 90% of my
LS clients are businesses that don't have time to sit and fiddle with a
LS program to figure it out.

 Yes, I tend to agree with you about the lack of documentation. However,
 if you are the SysAdmin for your Company,

I don't think that Lyle is talking about his collegues. He's
talking about the ISP customers - and fortunately, ISPs do
not have access to their clients' workstations ;-)


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Re[2]: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Gerry Doyon

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Hello Nick,

NA Not accepted! You are the first to cause me to make a Kill File on this
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I concur and am doing the same.

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Re: Documenation woes

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

On February 16, 2001, at 3:26:47 PM, Karin Spaink Wrote:

KS I don't think that Lyle is talking about his collegues. He's
KS talking about the ISP customers - and fortunately, ISPs do
KS not have access to their clients' workstations ;-)

Yes, you are absolutely right Karin... I should have read his initial
posting a little closer. :o(


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Incoming mail sound when filtering

2001-02-16 Thread Ray Selby

Hi TBUDL,

  I have a sound configured for incoming mail for account Account1. I
  have set a filter, which sends this mail to a mailbox in account
  Account2 (no sound configured).

  However, the sound is played as the mail is received in the Account1
  Inbox, presumably before the filter kicks in and sends it to the
  Account2 mailbox.

  Does anyone know how I can prevent this?


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Re[2]: Documenation woes

2001-02-16 Thread Lyle Scully

Hello Nick,

Friday, February 16, 2001, 3:32:59 PM, you wrote:

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NA On February 16, 2001, at 2:15:16 PM, Lyle Scully Wrote:

LS I am the CTO for a medium sized ISP here in the US, and 90% of my
LS clients are businesses that don't have time to sit and fiddle with a

NA Yes, I tend to agree with you about the lack of documentation. However,
NA if you are the SysAdmin for your Company, would it not be possible to
NA set up TB! on the Workstations already pre-configured in some fashion.

Yes that is the case within my company. I can make the techs use
whatever I desire. Email programs though are kind of like shoes, or a
pair of gloves. Horrible analogy I know. But you HAVE to allow these
people to use what feels best to them. My wife uses The Bat! and loves
it, but she simply sends email. Nothing fancy, deletes the messages
after she is done with them. In my job, I get so much mail, that
archiving is the only way to stay afloat. So The Bat! fits in my mind
set.

Clients are another beast entirely. I have no control over what they
use, but many are fed up with the many and varied viruses that seem to
populate the Outlook world.

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Re[2]: Documenation woes

2001-02-16 Thread Lyle Scully

Hello Marck,

Friday, February 16, 2001, 3:41:06 PM, you wrote:

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MDP Hi Lyle,

MDP On 16 February 2001 at  15:15:16 -0700 (which was 22:15 where I  live)
MDP Lyle Scully wrote and made these points:

LS When asked if I thought that Bat would be good for my client
LS though, I almost always say No. Why would I do that if it is such
LS a good program? Simple...documentation.

MDP snip

LS Thanks for listening to my rant. I love The Bat! and would pay
LS again for the honor of using it, but someone needs to work on the
LS documentation sooner rather than later.

MDP nothing but agree with you. Dieter Hummel has re-written the help in
MDP German for German users. It would be great if something similar could
MDP be done with the English language help.

I took a look at that file. Even it doesn't look like it has been
updated recently, but I am just going by the datestamp they have on
the main page of it.

Has anyone tried to port that to other languages? The FAQ is great,
but hard to give to a client.

MDP Having said that, with v2 on the "horizon", there has been a
MDP reluctance to re-document a version of the software who's "time is

I won't even comment on the "horizon", but even if this program stays
at 1.49c (I know there is another beta coming), some people will
continue to use it for some time, even after V2 is out. That is human
nature. Granted over time you learn most of the program, but I still
struggle in some areas. Take the S/Mime stuff as an example. I would
never use it (prefer PGP), but some of my clients would, so I have to
learn it. I have no idea where to even start.

Minor points I know. But a new feature, should have at least minimal
documentation linked to it.

Unless I am missing something.

Regardless, I love the bat, and am happy that I finally said goodbye
to Eudora. I just keep pounding away at it until I figure something
out.

Lyle


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Re: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Lija,

On 16 February 2001 at  23:53:58 +0100 (which was 22:53 where I  live)
Lija wrote and made these points:

L Jesus, what a jerk you are!!

moderator
No name calling.
No personal insults.
/moderator

L Are you ** lunatic?

moderator
No swearing.
/moderator

L Do you consider that these forums are some playground for idiots
L like you?

moderator
No name calling.
No personal insults.
/moderator

L To Moderators:
L I know, I was too rude, but please take some action against cretins
L like this guy was!

moderator
No name calling.
No personal insults.
/moderator

L I apologize to other subscribers!

A slight redemption. For Peter's minor over-quoting faux-pas you have
come back by breaking three *major* list fundamentals.

I understand the point you were making that having just been told off
about over-quoting, Peter once again quoted back Wolfgang's entire
message to just say "Yes, you're right. Sorry". We have to be more
patient with Peter, who has come from the Outlook world. This is an
email client which induces folks to over-quote by hiding the quoted
text at the end, out of sight. This, in turn, results in the bad habit
of never trimming.

Now, back to you :-.

moderator
Please do not swear on this list.
Please do not address people directly on-list in derogatory terms.
Please do not throw insults on-list.

You could have written to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and vented
your spleen there without reprimand. Or even to me personally.

As it stands, you didn't. That means I have to give you warning that,
like you as we do :-), these are eviction offences and, should it
happen again, you will be banned.

I have to make this a public statement in case anyone gets the wrong
idea about how flexible we are on the rules. We're not!
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Re: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Thomas Petrich

Hi Lija, 

I never have read such aggressive in this group!

I wonder if you know that your reaction might have caused more traffic
than Peter will be able to do with his quotes ...
just think before blame others ...

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Re: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Yetto

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JL You are quite right, but I thought that it would be easier to export
JL from OL to OE and then to TB - than to export to a CSV-format and
JL fiddle with fields :-)

When I exported from PMMail to TB! I created an entry in the PMMail
address book with the name of the field as the data in the field.
After exporting to a CSV-format I moved this entry to the top of the
file.  TB!'s import function then suggested the correct mapping for
each corresponding field.

As another thought, can't you export the Outlook contacts a vCards and
then import them to TB!?

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Re: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

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On February 16, 2001, at 4:18:55 PM, Mike Yetto Wrote:

MY As another thought, can't you export the Outlook contacts a vCards and
MY then import them to TB!?

Yes... You sure should be. Never thought of that. Good find *again*
Mike! :o)


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Re: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, at 15:16:06 [GMT -0800], Peter Chiou wrote:

PC   And you're right, it is because I often am a jerk that I need Jesus,
PC   as you said.


I'm more inclined to go with "confused Outlook Express user" than
jerk. The Bat! will allow you to bottom post and, more importantly[1],
trim the quotes by selecting a block and hitting F4. Lookout and
Lookout Distress allow neither action.

Mike Yetto
[1] Yes, this is debatable and I'm inclined to take both sides.
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Re: Importing Outlook Contacts

2001-02-16 Thread Karin Spaink

On 17-02-2001 at 01:18, Mike Yetto kindly wrote:
 On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, at 15:54:44 [GMT +0100], Jannik Lindquist wrote:

JL You are quite right, but I thought that it would be easier to export
JL from OL to OE and then to TB - than to export to a CSV-format and
JL fiddle with fields :-)

 When I exported from PMMail to TB! I created an entry in the PMMail
 address book with the name of the field as the data in the field.
 After exporting to a CSV-format I moved this entry to the top of the
 file.  TB!'s import function then suggested the correct mapping for
 each corresponding field.

When I installed TB! on a friend's computer, I exported
their Outlook address books as a comma-delimited file and
imported that into TB's address book. It went beautifully.


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Moderators: Point of Order

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Yetto

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The Bat! listers,

Jan just sent a reminder about blank subjects and that
prompted me to ask this question.  Please note that I didn't reply to
the other thread.

However, many people do reply to the last message they read
rather than creating a new thread and my question concerns the proper
way to handle this.  Should the moderators immediately start a new
thread before it gets buried in something many of us may already be
skipping?  Is this even possible?  Does anyone have something else for
the moderators to think about this weekend?

Mike "just trying to be helpful" Yetto

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Re[6]: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Listers.

On Friday, February 16, 2001 23:53:58 [ +0100 GMT], Lija wrote the
following in regards to 'Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE!   (was: Importing
Outlook Contacts)':

Lija Jesus, what a jerk you are!! Are you fucking lunatic? Do you
Lija consider that these forums are some playground for idiots like
Lija you?

Lija To Moderators:
Lija I know, I was too rude, but please take some action against
Lija cretins like this guy was! I apologize to other subscribers!

  You know there's something basically wrong with a person who resorts
  to this kind of explosive language over a misdemeanor.

  I would ask the person who wrote these comments the very questions
  he has asked another. And I would ask the moderators to "take some
  action against cretins like this guy was!"

  This reminds me of "road rage". For those of you who are unfamiliar
  with this term, it is when a person gets extraordinarily angry while
  driving a car  cuts someone off or tailgates or screams out
  profanities or indicates foul signals to the other driver who has
  committed a perceived infraction.

  This has given rise to workshops where people learn how to cope with
  their anger. Maybe this fellow could use such a program before he
  gets into real life trouble.

  As for me, I can't accept this behavior or the casual apology to the
  list  I think he should be banned, not warned. Since apparently
  that isn't going to happen, maybe he'll just lurk while we all try
  to forget him.

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Re[2]: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Jody Watts

On  Friday, February 16, 2001 at 6:26 PM 
Mike Yetto tickled the keyboard keys on the subject of: 
"Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE!   (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)". 
My response follows:


MY more importantly[1],
MY trim the quotes by selecting a block and hitting F4

Thank you for this little tip. I did not realize I could do this. This
is one of the reason I like this list so much, it allows me to learn
some of the good "hidden" tricks from the pros!

On a side note, I saw where Poco Mail won the 7th annual shareware
program of the year award. I decided to check it out and see what all
of the hype was about. After playing with it for a few hours, I found
that is was FAR inferior to TheBat! The program is nice, but TB! has,
for me, the better list of features. That just goes to show you that
you can't always trust the reviews of other people.

Keep up the GOOD work ... with the program and the list!


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Re: Incoming mail sound when filtering

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Ray,

On 16 February 2001 at  00:40:59 +0100 (which was 23:40 where I  live)
Ray Selby wrote and made these points:

RS However, the sound is played as the mail is received in the
RS Account1 Inbox, presumably before the filter kicks in and sends it
RS to the Account2 mailbox.

RS Does anyone know how I can prevent this?

Yes. You can get "creative" with filters. Turn off the main sound.
Introduce a new filter between the one which moves messages to
Account2 and the rest of your filters which plays the sound. Make sure
you check the "Continue processing" switch on that filter. That should
do it :-).

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Re[2]: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread syv

On Friday, February 16, 2001 , Nick Andriash wrote the
following in regards to: [Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE!
(was: Importing Outlook Contacts)]


NA Not accepted! You are the first to cause me to make
NA a Kill File on this List, and your are, or course,
NA it's first member!

How do you make a kill file? or are you talking about a
filter to the trash based on sender?

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Re[7]: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Ben Mills



Friday, February 16, 2001, 7:50:40 PM, you wrote:

JR Hello Listers.

JR On Friday, February 16, 2001 23:53:58 [ +0100 GMT], Lija wrote the
JR following in regards to 'Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE!   (was: Importing
JR Outlook Contacts)':

/Snip/
Lija To Moderators:
Lija I know, I was too rude, but please take some action against
Lija cretins like this guy was! I apologize to other subscribers!

JR   You know there's something basically wrong with a person who resorts
JR   to this kind of explosive language over a misdemeanor.

I'll give him to benefit of the doubt and assume he had a bad day.
That sort of behavior is tolerated in many Usenet groups, but not in
moderated lists.

I'm new here so I'm just beginning to recognize some of the faces.
Maybe the offending individual will cool off and things will work
out..


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Re[2]: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Ben Mills

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Friday, February 16, 2001, 7:26:59 PM, you wrote:



MY I'm more inclined to go with "confused Outlook Express user" than
MY jerk. The Bat! will allow you to bottom post and, more importantly[1],
MY trim the quotes by selecting a block and hitting F4. Lookout and
MY Lookout Distress allow neither action.

Please elaborate: When I highlight a block to snip and hit F4TB
spellchecks it. W

What am I doing wrong???





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DEAD HORSE (was Re: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE!)

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Jan,

On 17 February 2001 at 19:50:40 -0500 (which was 00:50 where I live)
Jan Rifkinson wrote and made these points:

JR As for me, I can't accept this behavior or the casual apology to
JR the list  I think he should be banned, not warned. Since
JR apparently that isn't going to happen, maybe he'll just lurk while
JR we all try to forget him.

I understand that some societies have a far more stringent regimen
with regard to breaches of rules and I sympathize completely with the
indignation you (and others) feel about this incident. While the
misdemeanour was severe enough to result in a ban, it is our policy to
allow those less familiar with the rules of *this* society to slip
until they know better - but *only* once.

I believe that I have said what was necessary on this topic to those
directly concerned. Now IMHO what we are doing is becoming little more
than "rubber-necking" at the scene of a wreck. As the attending
officer might say "Move along folks. There's nothing to see here" :-).

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Re: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

On February 16, 2001, at 5:15:33 PM, Ben Mills Wrote:

BM Please elaborate: When I highlight a block to snip and hit F4TB
BM spellchecks it. W

BM What am I doing wrong???

Ben, it sounds like you have already hit the Reply button, and *then*
you are highlighting the text you want to quote. In that case, F4 will
indeed spell check the highlighted text. Try just reading the message in
the preview pane, and then highlight some text... hit F4... and that
should bring up a properly addressed reply with just the quoted text you
highlighted.


Nick


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Quoting Selected Text (was DO NOT OVERQUOTE)

2001-02-16 Thread Nick Andriash

On February 16, 2001, at 5:15:33 PM, Ben Mills Wrote:

BM Please elaborate: When I highlight a block to snip and hit F4TB
BM spellchecks it. W

BM What am I doing wrong???

Ben, it sounds like you have already hit the Reply button, and *then*
you are highlighting the text you want to quote. In that case, F4 will
indeed spell check the highlighted text. Try just reading the message in
the preview pane, and then highlight some text... hit F4... and that
should bring up a properly addressed reply with just the quoted text you
highlighted.


Nick


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Re: Moderators: Point of Order

2001-02-16 Thread Karin Spaink

On 17-02-2001 at 01:41, Mike Yetto kindly wrote:

 many people do reply to the last message they read
 rather than creating a new thread

Fortunately, it is not many people who do so.

 and my question concerns the proper
 way to handle this.  Should the moderators immediately start a new
 thread before it gets buried in something many of us may already be
 skipping?  Is this even possible?

I'd suggest that whoever answers to such a message, takes
the effort to turn their reply into a new message, thereby
achieving the goal: the ensuing thread will be pulled out of
the old, existing one, and will be clearly visible to all.

While I do realise that in this way we suddenly might see
two new threads emerge, or perhaps even three, when more
people answer and create new threads, I don't think it's
fair for us to sit and wait until the moderators do
something.

 Does anyone have something else for
 the moderators to think about this weekend?

What about sex, life and the meaning of the universe? ;-)


- K -

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Re[2]: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Ben Mills



Friday, February 16, 2001, 8:25:42 PM, you wrote:


NA Ben, it sounds like you have already hit the Reply button, and *then*
NA you are highlighting the text you want to quote. In that case, F4 will
NA indeed spell check the highlighted text. Try just reading the message in
NA the preview pane, and then highlight some text... hit F4... and that
NA should bring up a properly addressed reply with just the quoted text you
NA highlighted.

Yep, that's what I was doing.

Thanks,



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Re: Moderators: Point of Order

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Yetto

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On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, at 02:34:18 [GMT +0100], Karin Spaink wrote:

KS I'd suggest that whoever answers to such a message, takes
KS the effort to turn their reply into a new message, thereby
KS achieving the goal: the ensuing thread will be pulled out of
KS the old, existing one, and will be clearly visible to all.

KS While I do realise that in this way we suddenly might see
KS two new threads emerge, or perhaps even three, when more
KS people answer and create new threads, I don't think it's
KS fair for us to sit and wait until the moderators do
KS something.


I suggested that the moderators do this in order to prevent just such
a multiple spawning.  But you are right, they shouldn't carry all of
the burdens, only the final word.

Mike Yetto

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Re: DEAD HORSE (was Re: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE!)

2001-02-16 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Marck,

On Friday, February 16, 2001 01:17:15 [ + GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'DEAD HORSE (was Re: Peter, DO NOT
OVERQUOTE!)':

Marck [...] I believe that I have said what was necessary on this
Marck topic to those directly concerned. Now IMHO what we are doing
Marck is becoming little more than "rubber-necking" at the scene of a
Marck wreck. As the attending officer might say "Move along folks.
Marck There's nothing to see here" :-).

 I said what I had to say but you're the boss man.

-- 
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Ridgefield, CT USA
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Re: Moderators: Point of Order

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Mike,

On 17 February 2001 at 19:41:28 -0500 (which was 00:41 where I live)
Mike Yetto wrote and made these points:

MY However, many people do reply to the last message they
MY read rather than creating a new thread and my question concerns
MY the proper way to handle this. Should the moderators immediately
MY start a new thread before it gets buried in something many of us
MY may already be skipping?

By then it is already too late. The proper point to do this is at the
point of a first reply.

MY Is this even possible?

Yes it is, but you have to change both the Subject and the Follow-up
information.

MY Does anyone have something else for the moderators to think about
MY this weekend?

:-)

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Re: Moderators: Point of Order

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Karin,

On 17 February 2001 at  02:34:18 +0100 (which was 01:34 where I  live)
Karin Spaink wrote and made these points:

 Does anyone have something else for the moderators to think about
 this weekend?

KS What about sex, life and the meaning of the universe? ;-)

... or, as usual, yet more work :-(!

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Re: Moderators: Point of Order

2001-02-16 Thread Karin Spaink

On 17-02-2001 at 03:01, Marck D. Pearlstone kindly wrote:
 Mike Yetto wrote and made these points:

[how to deal with new postings that are actually sent as a
reply to an existing thread - one needs to start a new tread
on one's reply]

 but you have to change both the Subject and the Follow-up
 information.

The Follow-up information? I only know this as a newsgroup
header... [checks her TBDUL / TBTECH mail headers]

Ahhh! This is where you can break the chain of references,
and create a new, fresh reply indeed, as in: bereft of
ancestors. Chut. I thought I knew most of what TB had to
offer - but I am *still* learning.


- K -

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Re[6]: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Gerry Doyon

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Hello Lija,

L Jesus, what a jerk you are!! Are you fucking lunatic?
L Do you consider that these forums are some playground for idiots like you?

L To Moderators:
L I know, I was too rude, but please take some action against cretins like this
L guy was!
L I apologize to other subscribers!

I am writing this to you off forum.  In my humble opinion, you have done
far more damage to the forum than Peter ever could by not trimming down his
quoted text.  Your behavior was way out of line and inappropriate, your
apology notwithstanding.

Regards,

Gerry

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Re: Documenation woes

2001-02-16 Thread Thomas

Hallo Lyle,

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:37:05 -0700 GMT (17/02/2001, 07:37 +0800 GMT),
Lyle Scully wrote:

LS Thanks for listening to my rant. I love The Bat! and would pay
LS again for the honor of using it, but someone needs to work on the
LS documentation sooner rather than later.

MDP nothing but agree with you.

Same here.

MDP Dieter Hummel has re-written the help in German for German
MDP users. It would be great if something similar could be done with
MDP the English language help.

LS I took a look at that file. Even it doesn't look like it has been
LS updated recently, but I am just going by the datestamp they have on
LS the main page of it.

Marck was referring to the German help file, which you can download
from www.batmail.de - not the English help file. The English help file
is far behind. The German help gets updated very often; I have the one
dated 27 Jan 2001 on my disk, but there just might be a newer one.

I understand the German help file is also available as .doc and .pdf
files on request, but don't know whether these downloads are free.

For those who don't read German, it's of course of not much use. The
suggestion that it be translated into English has come up a few times,
but no volunteers have come forward.

LS Minor points I know. But a new feature, should have at least minimal
LS documentation linked to it.

You are preaching to the converted. ;-)

LS Unless I am missing something.

The manpower of RITlabs, maybe.

LS Regardless, I love the bat, and am happy that I finally said goodbye
LS to Eudora. I just keep pounding away at it until I figure something
LS out.

I also came from Eudora and never looked back.

As for the TB documentation, tt might be faster to learn German that
to wait for an English-language documentation. g

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Kill Filter (was: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE!)

2001-02-16 Thread Thomas

Hallo syv,

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:57:56 -0800 GMT (17/02/2001, 08:57 +0800 GMT),
syv wrote:

s How do you make a kill file? or are you talking about a
s filter to the trash based on sender?

Account / Sorting Office / Selective downlaod Filters.

Look around in the tabs, it gives you a lot of options.

Disadvantage: once you have at least one Selective Download filter, TB
will download all headers first, check them against these filters and
take action (for example, a Kill Filter will delete a message on
server and not download it), and after all this is finished, will
start once again and downalod all messages as appropriate.

Therefore, in many cases, just using an Incoming Filter and filtering
into Trash might be faster.

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Re: Moderators: Point of Order

2001-02-16 Thread Thomas

Hallo Mike,

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:48:39 -0500 GMT (17/02/2001, 09:48 +0800 GMT),
Mike Yetto wrote:

KS While I do realise that in this way we suddenly might see
KS two new threads emerge, or perhaps even three, when more
KS people answer and create new threads, I don't think it's
KS fair for us to sit and wait until the moderators do
KS something.

MY I suggested that the moderators do this in order to prevent just such
MY a multiple spawning.

I'm with Karin here, because the moderators do sleep sometimes
(usually when I'm up in my time zone - "right now" is a good example -
and what am I to do? Wait six horus before I reply?

I usually just delete the follow-ups and make a remark of that in my
reply. Or, if it is midly related to the thread, just change the
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Re: Strange deleting

2001-02-16 Thread Thomas

Hallo Lija,

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:10:19 +0100 GMT (15/02/2001, 16:10 +0800 GMT),
Lija wrote:

MK  But  what  about  messages  I  want  to leave on the server? Ie large
MK  messages I want to receive in job place, but small at home only???

Ai Take a look at TBUDLs archive. There is a solution for this with two
Ai filters. It works great for me...

L Do you mean there is a solution for separate download of small and large msgs
L via 2 accounts or solution for avoiding TB's deleting msgs with exceeding limit?

L If there is a solution for second problem (which I also desperately need;), send
L it within your reply...

Look at this message in this same very thread:
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If it does not help you, kindly let us know your further quetions
based on that that message.

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Re: POP before SMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Thomas

Hallo Deniz,

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:05:05 +0200 GMT (16/02/2001, 23:05 +0800 GMT),
Deniz Baygan wrote:

 But here is the second window popping up, entitled: "Receiving Mail".
 Oops, did I check Combined Delivery? No, unchecked. Closed TB and
 reopen. Option still unchecked, but when I  hit "send messages", TB
 will at the same time "check messages".

DB It doesn't receive any new mail.
DB When combined delivery is unchecked but still being opened.

I didn't try it out now. So, the window "Receiving" opens, but if you
have any new mail messages on your server, they won't be downloaded?

Looks like the buggy branch is pointing only to the UI module, not the
functionality. So it's a cosmetic bug. While it may be irritating,
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Re: Moderators: Point of Order

2001-02-16 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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On 17 February 2001 at  12:48:17 +0800 (which was 04:48 where I  live)
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MY I suggested that the moderators do this in order to prevent just such
MY a multiple spawning.

T I'm with Karin here, because the moderators do sleep sometimes
T (usually when I'm up in my time zone - "right now" is a good
T example - and what am I to do? Wait six horus before I reply?

(sleep? wassat?).

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Re[7]: Peter, DO NOT OVERQUOTE! (was: Importing Outlook Contacts)

2001-02-16 Thread Lija

Hi Gerry,

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, at 18:30:17 [GMT -0500, your local time]
(17.2.2001. at 00:30 was my local time), you wrote:

GD I am writing this to you off forum.  In my humble opinion, you have done

Belive it or not, but you have sent this TO forum :))

GD far more damage to the forum than Peter ever could by not trimming down his
GD quoted text.  Your behavior was way out of line and inappropriate, your
GD apology notwithstanding.

Please try to understand me and my point more deeper.
I am not some guy who insults other people (at least, not often;)). I just want
to see _clean and tidy_ posts and I also get annoyed when I see people who dont
comply to this.

Ask yourself, do you (and all others) *really* think that I made "mistake" by sending
(offensive) protest?

  Thank you for your answer, anyway.

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Re: UNSUBSCRIBE TBUDL

2001-02-16 Thread Lija

PL UNSUBSCRIBE

OK, guys, now I am calm and will not overreact, I will just:

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