Re: Folder settings (was: Changing message replyto via filter)
Hi Dwight, On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, at 19:01:16 -0600 you wrote: What folders I have created up to now, of course, I didn't know I needed to do this, but if I had known it wouldn't have saved me on most of my folders. Starting out by setting up 5 accounts, there are 20 folders created immediately (inbox, outbox, sent and trash * 5). Most of the other fifty are imported folders, not ones I have created in TB. If you want to change the settings for all folders (at least for all of one account) I would suggest using the keyboard. That's a pretty fast way for doing such a general change. Mark the first folder and press ALTENTER, ALTU, ENTER, DOWNARROW. You can repeat this sequence until all your folder settings are corrected. On the subject of importing and wishlists -- It sure would be nice to be able to import address books. It *is* possible to import address books. Not all formats out in the world, I agree, but you can import LDIF or CSV, and most programs can export to one of these. Or third party tools like Dawn can do the export. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Viewing Messages
Dierk On 29 Mar 2001, you wrote in BAT: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck! On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 12:19:30 AM you wrote: Because it doesn't work reliably. Also, it gives me an opportunity to strike a pathetic blow against the rising tide with my HTML Quick Template. - From the balcony comes loud cheering: "Bravo!" I hope people would learn how to actually *use* a software. In the light of your comments re html and seeing that your signature separator is incorrect (I had to delete it manually in this reply) and your signature consists of (counting, counting...) 18 lines instead of the four (max) that are usually recommended, perhaps you could improve on that. I have never seen a list with so much information (redundant, in my view) at the bottom of many mails. If you would like the world to know what mailer and what OS you're using, isn't there a facility in The Bat that would allow extra headers to be inserted, as in X-Mailer: The Bat 1.51, etc? Why put a PGP signature at the bottom of a mailing to a list, other than for the simple reason that The Bat can? I have been reading this list on a newsreader which usually strips out these things, and many set their reader to reject html mails - but they also reject anything without correct signature separators or too long signatures. That's one rant off my chest. Norbert -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
PGP (Was Re[2]: Viewing Messages)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30 March 2001 at 10:01:46 +0100 (which was 10:01 where I live) Norbert Lieckfeldt wrote In the light of your comments re html and seeing that your signature separator is incorrect His cut line is correct (Explanation further down) I had to delete it manually in this reply (Thank you) I would give you a regex to improve your templates but as you are not using The Bat! I don't know if it would work. and your signature consists of (counting, counting...) 18 lines instead of the four (max) that are usually recommended, perhaps you could improve on that. No it is not it is actually 9 lines (including 4 blank lines) as well as 9 PGP signature lines. He is also stating his MUA and OS platform which are considered good practise on this list. Why put a PGP signature at the bottom of a mailing to a list, Because that is where PGP puts it. other than for the simple reason that The Bat can? I have been reading this list on a newsreader which usually strips out these things, and many set their reader to reject html mails - but they also reject anything without correct signature separators or too long signatures. For your information when PGP signs an email it must know when it starts and when it finishes it does this by [-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-] to start the message and [-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-] [-END PGP SIGNATURE-] for the PGP signature. Any lines in the email that start with [-] are preceded with [- ]. There for a cut line will go from [--] to [- --]. The reason for using PGP You can add a digital signature to your message, so your recipients will know that the message came from you and is exactly what you said! - -- Good Bye, ___ David | MUA :- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | OXYMORON : Bob Hope Special | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOsRVZfmK8eZlD0U0EQLA9ACfdXezudebvM9WH0hLnY1iidcPVOsAn3cz XnHT1jgK936UMPgiEIUzHb7T =eMBC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP (Was Re[2]: Viewing Messages)
Hi David, On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:44:05 +0100GMT (30/03/2001, 17:44 +0800GMT), David Elliott wrote: Why put a PGP signature at the bottom of a mailing to a list, DE Because that is where PGP puts it. He means: why PGP-sign postings to a mailing list. DE for the PGP signature. Any lines in the email that start with [-] are DE preceded with [- ]. There for a cut line will go from [--] to [- --]. Good reason not to PGP-sign messages on a mailing list. DE The reason for using PGP DE You can add a digital signature to your message, so your recipients will DE know that the message came from you and is exactly what you said! Very true and important for private mail. Also, for the moderators here on this list, so that we know they are they. Provided you verify each PGP-signed message. Do you really do that? - In other words, we are starting the old discussion whether postings on mailing lists should be PGP-signed or not. Flame away! eg -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.51 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Viewing Messages
Hi Norbert, On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, at 10:01:46 +0100 you wrote: In the light of your comments re html and seeing that your signature separator is incorrect (I had to delete it manually in this reply) It is a correct signature delimiter which was changed by PGP and still is a correct delimiter. and your signature consists of (counting, counting...) 18 lines instead of the four (max) that are usually recommended, perhaps you could improve on that. It is 4 lines long, including 4 blank lines (each one a 2 byte increase in message size. Not too much, I'd say). And his PGP signature which is generally not counted as signature on this list. I have never seen a list with so much information (redundant, in my view) at the bottom of many mails. It is recommended to have this information in your signature, because it makes helping and bug tracking easier. You need not hunt down a bug that was corrected some versions ago :-) Why put a PGP signature at the bottom of a mailing to a list, other than for the simple reason that The Bat can? I don't think anyone here uses PGP just because "The Bat can". It's up to everybody to decide if they want to send their messages with or without a PGP signature. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Viewing Messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:01:46 +0100, Norbert graced us with these comments: moderator note In case this develops into a large thread let me make official comments on a few of your points. NL In the light of your comments re html and seeing that your signature NL separator is incorrect (I had to delete it manually in this reply) and NL your signature consists of (counting, counting...) 18 lines instead of NL the four (max) that are usually recommended, perhaps you could improve NL on that. Yes, we encourage posters to restrict their signatures to no more than 6 lines, the purpose of the signature being to convey personal information about the sender and also, important system information if applicable. PGP signatures are not included in the line count. NL I have never seen a list with so much information (redundant, in my NL view) at the bottom of many mails. If you would like the world to know NL what mailer and what OS you're using, isn't there a facility in The NL Bat that would allow extra headers to be inserted, as in X-Mailer: The NL Bat 1.51, etc? The reason for the netiquette rule to reduce signature lines is to reduce bandwidth wastage. Placing the same information in the message headers doesn't address that issue. Since this is a support group, we ask that posters include information in their signatures on what OS they're using. It's very often relevant to problems posted and saves us having to ask. We've already travelled the road of this information not being included in many messages and actually requested that it be included after seeing the numerous queries for that information. NL Why put a PGP signature at the bottom of a mailing to a list, other NL than for the simple reason that The Bat can? PGP signing a message authenticates it. It may seem a waste of time and unnecessary to you but others may feel otherwise. It's not our intention to unnecessarily restrict users provided that their practice doesn't excessively impact on bandwidth. You may wish to compare PGP signing to long signature files in terms of their being comparable in bandwidth wastage. However, long signature files invariably contain highly redundant information that will not interest the intended audience and the very purpose of your signature is to convey useful information to your recipients. \moderator note - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | Moderator(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsRrU1fJ62ArBxfiEQLfyACg+ekaZbZZBVg+t72qNXXOnjeIVkIAnjQB V65fiHHQp0lVIBnaGfHR+45b =KnP+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Address book hassle
On 28-03-2001 at 20:52, Ming-Li kindly wrote: On Wednesday, March 28, 2001 at 20:19:23 +0200 Karin Spaink wrote: For friends, I have set up a small network (two computers, both running WinNT) using TheBat. The program resides on computer A. All users have their own accounts, plus they have access to the company's main account. There is also an admin account, from which you can access all other accounts. The address book resides in d:\thebat\admin . The hassle is that they keep "losing" the address book. I believe you're using one of the newest version (older versions store the information in the registry), The use TB 1.51. so AFAIK the only place TB stores the location and name of the ABs in use in "AddrBook.INI" under the main directory of the message base (or the "working directory" as TB calls it). Please check all network HDs to see if there're other copies of the same .ini elsewhere. There's only one AddrBook.ini and it listed the correct place. How do they normally use the computers? Do you log-in (into Windows, not TB) with different accounts? If so, I suspect there're some discrepancies as to where the "working directory" is at. The location is stored in the registry under the key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! Since every Windows account has its own "HKEY_CURRENT_USER" tree, they might not share the same value for the "Working Directory" entry. And there are two computers, each with its own user accounts. Right. Indeed most users had a wrong key there, which I have dutifully corrected. The problem seems to be fixed now. Thanks! But this means that although AddrBook.ini is supposed to tell the program where to look for the address book, actually the registry entry takes precedence... - K - -- England and America are two countries separated by the same language. - George Bernard Shaw, Reader's Digest, November 1942 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mangled messages in hypertext
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mal! On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 6:03:10 PM you wrote: I receive hypertext from one particular mailing list sender where the lines of text are broken up into many one, two, and three word lines. What's going on? "Hypertext" as in HTML? then I would bet on bad programming on the senders side. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/1 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Life is like a sewer: What you get out of it, depends on what you put into it! (Tom Lehrer) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOsRyCfTo1oA8g8dLEQL9eACghPwkPCcOvbLH8W6ZmlsGwAkUx7oAoISF Z/IgUxacCeis9aB9JftZwu23 =AXuI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: HTML emails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello syv! On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 6:19:33 PM you wrote: Now it does it only displays: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" html head meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" It does not have the ASCII tab and the HTML tab like it use to. The split mode is: full width preview pane. Any suggestion? I sometimes receive "broken" HTML messages. They are not recognised as such and display the pure text. Remember, HTML is nothing else but an ASCII file, i.e. like a batch file. If something went wrong in programming it or in the headers (or wherever TB! gets its info) TB! won't recognize it and show it as pure text. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/1 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Why don't you ever see the headline, "Psychic Wins Lottery?" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOsRzbPTo1oA8g8dLEQL4GgCg1E7v4RWIsZuWSAZOi0zon8iJg1MAn2mL mUCz8wXEWcCyFGtiQc71rdcK =LEvE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck! On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 10:18:57 PM you wrote: DAC This is good. Is there some way one can tell when looking at a DAC message or a mail box that a message has a memo, or does one need to DAC flag the message to tell? The "Memo" has a column which can be selected for display in message lists. What about "Memo Auto-View"? I think that is what he needs. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/1 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Better be mediocre - remember, they shot John, not Ringo. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOsR07/To1oA8g8dLEQKnHACg4+W6H5otkkckDmPBTyDQc53chxEAn2jE F8fHCGyDXfOFztQ7e+JB6bFC =++VW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP (Was Re[2]: Viewing Messages)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On Friday, March 30, 2001 at 11:59:32 AM you wrote: Good reason not to PGP-sign messages on a mailing list. Very true and important for private mail. Also, for the moderators here on this list, so that we know they are they. Provided you verify each PGP-signed message. Do you really do that? - In other words, we are starting the old discussion whether postings on mailing lists should be PGP-signed or not. OK, once again: I think it is good to have *every* mail signed (full stop). And TB! does it for me automatically. BTW, I really am verifying messages from this list. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/1 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Das Vergleichen mit anderen ist das Ende des Glcks und der Anfang der Unzufriedenheit. (Sren Kierkegaard) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOsR1/fTo1oA8g8dLEQIAnACgkKfUcphcIZMp//PYvsa/X4310rgAmgLf dTqym6glvDXv/e8qSuCtdXx9 =85+/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
OT A not so private comment (was: Re: Viewing Messages)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Norbert! On Friday, March 30, 2001 at 11:01:46 AM you wrote: In the light of your comments re html and seeing that your signature separator is incorrect (I had to delete it manually in this reply) and your signature consists of (counting, counting...) 18 lines instead of the four (max) that are usually recommended, perhaps you could improve on that. Norbert Most of it is answered by others and I thank them. 1. Do you use a sig del? 2. There are always options and possibilities in a software one will discover only with time. My comment about usage was a (slightly overdone) comment out of experience especially with OE users. To elaborate a bit on the last point: I really want software that is self-explanatory, easy to use and does what the user wants it to do. Since over time the "standard" programmes have developed more and more features (demanded by buyers) they are far from my ideal. Some companies have decided to set defaults that are non-standard, annoying or plain dangerous. Additionally people in offices use computers as a tool to do work which has nothing to do with computers. Most of them don't know how to find the options and don't know anything about it. A girl friend of mine had to change computers in the office, sent me a superfluously HTMLed message and needed her sys ad to change this - yes! - stupid option in Outlook. It took a week. Sorry for all this wasted time and bandwidth; I hope this cleared up some of my "ranting" lately. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/1 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Die meisten Leute machen sich selbst blo durch bertriebene Forderungen an das Schicksal unzufrieden. (Wilhelm von Humboldt) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOsR5//To1oA8g8dLEQL0rwCgu4sZlVjua0faGfeH/nZbvCZscFcAn3nR VyCYKVHkBjTTuIflP7/vjD++ =MXbX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP (Was Re[2]: Viewing Messages)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30 March 2001 at 15:03:08 +0200 (which was 14:03 where I live) Dierk Haasis schrieb durchdacht das folgende OK, once again: I think it is good to have *every* mail signed (full stop). And TB! does it for me automatically. So do I. BTW, I really am verifying messages from this list. Verify this one ;? PS I liked the last quote. - -- Good Bye, ___ David | MUA :- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | Lawyer: The larval stage of a politician. | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOsSRF/mK8eZlD0U0EQJq7QCgugj3GVp6gMJbHjRnX+D0Zz78xLwAn02/ R9gqhNfakk4u+dfwdd49lzJV =2p67 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: incoming messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Ming-Li! On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 5:52:01 PM you wrote: If you need help from the group, please post the complete filter settings. E.g., what's the filter strings you use, and how you set up the relationship (how you do the "OR"--with the pipe operator or with alternative rule sets), etc. Found out myself now (I hope); it is something I find really funny, and the joke is on me: When I first had the prob (which I still have not found out why it happened), I defined an alternative rule "haasis Sender Yes AND tbot Kludges No"). Since it's main rule "Haasis Sender Yes" already had caught the messages and put them in another folder, they ended up wrongly and were not filtered further. I don't know why my simple main rule catches the TBOT messages but I have now changed it to "Haasis Sender Yes AND tbot Kludges No"). - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/1 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Silence is the virtue of fools. (Francis Bacon) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOsSIj/To1oA8g8dLEQLeCACcC1wSQOXIrMUk4k5KMM/MHsijdYkAoI4V 0B80keXXk+5R0cj45Q+GJB0n =M+hO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP
Hallo Dierk, On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:03:08 +0200 GMT (30/03/2001, 21:03 +0800 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH OK, once again: I think it is good to have *every* mail signed (full DH stop). And TB! does it for me automatically. ...and it needs a RegEx in order to recognize your sig-delimiter. DH BTW, I really am verifying messages from this list. Wow! Are you on a flat rate, or have you taken the time to download each poster's public key, or how do you do it? Does TB verify automtically, too? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When the radio mentions a landslide, cross your fingers and hope it is talking about an election. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On Friday, March 30, 2001 at 4:22:42 PM you wrote: ...and it needs a RegEx in order to recognize your sig-delimiter. 1. I know. 2. For the wish list (we both know, it's already on it): TB! should recognize the PGP sig delimiter. Wow! Are you on a flat rate, or have you taken the time to download each poster's public key, or how do you do it? You know I am not, and yes I try to get the public keys, sometimes from servers. Most of the times I just ask those who use PGP on list or indicate that one can get his/her key. Does TB verify automtically, too? The long-time members of this list (you and me included) know that this is on the wish list. Are we through with rehashing for the sake of new members like Norbert? ;-) - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/1 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C I learn each day what I need to know to do tomorrow's work. (Arnold Toynbee) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQA/AwUBOsSSWfTo1oA8g8dLEQJYHwCfeYgB5Pyr1U1jddV8YInmqS57RZUAnjzX qXdpqoeCrDsuCaRYORaxv8SY =kzhz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP (Was Re[2]: Viewing Messages)
Hi David, on Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:59:05 +0100 GMT (which was 30.03.2001, 15:59 +0100 GMT where I live) David Elliott wrote: Verify this one ;? PS I liked the last quote. *** PGP Signature Status: bad *** Signer: David Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Signer Key ID: 0x650F4534 *** Signer Key Fingerprint: CF6B 9A2E F93E 4018 5120 B357 F98A F1E6 650F 4534 *** Signer Key Status: Invalid *** Signed: 30.03.01 16:58:46 *** Verified: 30.03.01 17:46:51 *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 I use The Bat! v1.51 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A ! -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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Hi, as you see below there are problems to send messages to this list: 30-03-2001 17:48:27 Log record is created. Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED], file 22tuf73-000-.msg Request DNS for SMTP servers for this e-mail... Try DNS-server 217.5.115.7 Sending DNS request... Wait for DNS reply... Found 3 relay(s) (dip2.dutaint.com [10], mail.spij.co.id [20], dip1.dutaint.com [30]) Send via dip2.dutaint.com SMTP-server Connecting to SMTP server... Connected with SMTP-server 220-dutaint.com ESMTP MDaemon 4.0.0rc2; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:48:05 +0700 220-This site does not authorize you to relay mail. 220-If you are not an authorized user of the Duta Integrasi Pratama 220-MailServer you must not relay mail through this site. 220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] HELO pD4B9E41E.dip.t-dialin.net 250 dutaint.com Hello pD4B9E41E.dip.t-dialin.net, pleased to meet you MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 mail from 212.185.228.30 refused by DUL, see http://www.mail-abuse.org/dul/ Protocol error (SMTP) Send via mail.spij.co.id SMTP-server Connecting to SMTP server... Connected with SMTP-server 220 spij.co.id ESMTP MDaemon 3.5.3 ready HELO pD4B9E41E.dip.t-dialin.net 250 spij.co.id Hello pD4B9E41E.dip.t-dialin.net, pleased to meet you MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sender ok RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Recipient ok DATA 354 Enter mail, end with CRLF.CRLF ...Message body was sent, 1663 bytes 250 Ok, message saved QUIT 221 See ya in cyberspace mail.spij.co.id "250 Ok, message saved" Please take a look to the last line! -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 I use The Bat! v1.51 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A ! -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Messages to this list
Friday, March 30, 2001, 10:51:02 AM, you wrote: RB Hi, RB as you see below there are problems to send messages to this list: Roland, I haven't posted here in so long I'm just giving it a test. I'll watch my log. Ben -- Benmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP
Hallo Dierk, On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:04:08 +0200 GMT (30/03/2001, 23:04 +0800 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH Are we through with rehashing for the sake of new members like DH Norbert? ;-) And others. Was I so obvious, and this thread is already finished? ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello Thomas ! On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:22:42 +0800 GMT your local time, which was 30.03.2001, 16:22 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote: [...] DH BTW, I really am verifying messages from this list. Wow! Are you on a flat rate, or have you taken the time to download each poster's public key, or how do you do it? Obviously you never used PGP, so you don't know that you don't have to download the pub key *each* time you verify a message. You can import them into your keyring and check the revocation status from time to time I would like to invite you to use PGP (if you already do, sorry). Ingrid Spitzer (www.spitzer-web.de) wrote a very good tutorial on How to use PGP in The Bat! (Sorry, German version only, but I know that this is no problem for you). In case you have any problems or questions feel free to ask! [...] - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.51 PGP/GPG-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4d (r3/Cygwin) - GnuPGshell v1.60 Comment: http://www.bigfoot.com/~rsoft/gpgshell.html iD8DBQE6xLICTL+wetVsYYcRAV7PAKDG0S/XUnGPnGaNu/oBCwKXiWv8kgCgqlno J6J7oyGuJJiYZo5GaaJVsMQ= =/n0t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP (Was Re[2]: Viewing Messages)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Roland On 30 March 2001 at 17:47:50 +0200 (which was 16:47 where I live) Roland Burger umgeordnete Elektronen zum Erhalten Verify this one ;? *** PGP Signature Status: bad Correct, but this one will be good. -=#;-] - -- Best regards, ___ David | MUA :- The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2000 Server 5.0.2195 SP1 | International | | Oxymoron: Idiot over angels 12.5. | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 04/01) Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered. iQA/AwUBOsSzZvmK8eZlD0U0EQJEgQCgizyjdMP5E/vejUTxJmbR50wtPKoAoKu2 IOod5qIRmp7Si7fp2hZaRocI =dBN7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mangled messages in hypertext
On Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 11:03:10 -0500 Mal Wiseman wrote: I receive hypertext from one particular mailing list sender where the lines of text are broken up into many one, two, and three word lines. What's going on? Do you mean they are broken in the html tab or the plain text tab, or both? Either way, try exporting the message (either format would do) and examining the exported file with a text editor. If the broken lines you observed happened in TB's plain text tab, then you should see the same thing in the text editor. If you saw them in the html view, then there should be some html tag that's breaking them (e.g.: BR or P). -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Address book hassle
On Friday, March 30, 2001 at 15:17:06 +0200 Karin Spaink wrote: There's only one AddrBook.ini and it listed the correct place. So now we know TB doesn't create a new addrbook.ini when it couldn't find one. Right. Indeed most users had a wrong key there, which I have dutifully corrected. The problem seems to be fixed now. Thanks! Glad to hear that. But this means that although AddrBook.ini is supposed to tell the program where to look for the address book, actually the registry entry takes precedence... Yup. It's a dilemma between easier central control or more end user freedom. By storing registry entries under the HKCU key, TB opted for the latter. RIT has said they plan to abandon the registry someday, but we're still waiting. And the problem won't disappear when TB switches to ini-only approach, though with better design it can be minimized. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder settings (was: Changing message replyto via filter)
On 30-03-2001 at 10:30, Lars Geiger kindly wrote: If you want to change the settings for all folders (at least for all of one account) I would suggest using the keyboard. That's a pretty fast way for doing such a general change. Mark the first folder and press ALTENTER, ALTU, ENTER, DOWNARROW. You can repeat this sequence until all your folder settings are corrected. Yammie! I never realised that. I had some quite folders to correct as well, and could never bring myself to go through the hassle. But this *is* a fast procedure. Thanks! - K - -- Our society desperately needs monsters to reclaim its own moral virginity. - Sylvre Lotringer -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Oddities
Hello TBUDL! I have a couple of examples of some little strange things that have been going on lately with my TB! 1. Text trying to escape from the editor window: Sometimes when writing a message, I need to select a block of text with a mouse. If I do it too carelessly, the whole text (not just the selected one) moves to the left so that only a half of it remains in sight. No srollbar appearing on the bottom of the window. No way I can get things back to normal except saving the message and then doubleclicking in the outbox message list to get back to the message editing window. 2. Double cursor: Sometimes if I use Enter too hastily (wanting two or more empty lines in a text), the cursor just can't make it - sure, it moves to the correct place but it also leaves a non-working "copy" of itself behind! The way out? I move the working cursor in the same place as the "copy" and press any key. I've somehow learned to live with it but actually it is *very* annoying! I don't know if it's even possible to solve these problems but what I'd sure like to know is: are there any others having similar problems?! My computer is a laptop Compaq Armada 1500c but I don't think these are display problems - they never happen with any other programs. And the "double cursor"-thing has been with me only since TB! version 1.48 or so. Any suggestions? And *no*, I can't afford a new computer right now :-) -- Best regards, Pete Using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:38:24 +0200, Karin thoughtfully wrote the following: KS I wish it were. I never use the preview window; I read mail KS using the folder view and then hop from message to message. KS For me, that means that memo's are inaccesible: I can write KS one but you can't save it. Try the following: Open a view folder window and then hit Ctrl+Shift+I. This should open the memo view window. The 'save' and 'clear' toolbar buttons should be blanked out so trying to create a memo for the currently selected message would be futile. Now select another message in the message list. You should now see the memo window toolbar buttons become active and you can now create the memo via the view folder window. I can create memos but I have to first select another message after opening the memo view and then go back to the original message for which I wish to create the memo. A minor bug. KS rant It bugs me that I can do more to messages when they are open KS via the preview window than when open in folder view. After-all, it's KS supposed to be just a preview window. From the way it functions, it KS really aught to be called the main message view window because the KS message is clearly *opened* when being viewed via the preview window. Indeed. KS I can edit memo's only when messages are open via the preview window. For me this is no longer the case. You can now do everything via the view folder window. Except for the minor bug I mentioned above, all the past issues have been ironed out. KS The address auto-view is more responsive with the preview window. More responsive? Would you explain what you mean here? - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | Moderator(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsTMyVfJ62ArBxfiEQKr9ACffydzIlclX/ImMMFMdVYuC8Ftz0cAoJPL Cdcfb5gLi5bfl1035y9H8yYc =oYj2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Changing message replyto via filter
List-Hosted-by: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia Friday, March 30, 2001, 12:13:29 PM, you wrote: KS I wish it were. I never use the preview window; I read mail KS using the folder view and then hop from message to message. KS For me, that means that memo's are inaccesible: I can write KS one but you can't save it. Try the following: Open a view folder window and then hit Ctrl+Shift+I. This should open the memo view window. The 'save' and 'clear' toolbar buttons should be blanked out so trying to create a memo for the currently selected message would be futile. Now select another message in the message list. You should now see the memo window toolbar buttons become active and you can now create the memo via the view folder window. I can create memos but I have to first select another message after opening the memo view and then go back to the original message for which I wish to create the memo. A minor bug. I hit ctrl-shft-i and it was ready right away to create a memo, I typed a few characters and his save and they showed up in the memo column were they belong. Didn't have to do the extra fiddling at all. (I'm running 1.51 on WindowsME) -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Oddities
Hallo Pete, On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:05:09 +0300 GMT (31/03/01, 02:05 +0800 GMT), Pete P wrote: PP 1. Text trying to escape from the editor window: I can confirm this. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Never do card tricks for the group you play poker with. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Oddities
Hallo Allie, On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:28:22 -0500 GMT (31/03/01, 02:28 +0800 GMT), A Curtis Martin wrote: ACM Whenever you're caught in this bind, [...] or ACM hitting Ctrl+Home to get to the beginning of the message. This is the work-around I use, too. Forgot to mention it in my previous message. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. In a Zurich hotel: Because of the impropriety of entertaining guests of the opposite sex in the bedroom, it is suggested that the lobby be used for this purpose. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:34:26 -0600, Dwight graced us with these comments: Open a view folder window and then hit Ctrl+Shift+I. This should open the memo view window. The 'save' and 'clear' toolbar buttons should be blanked out so trying to create a memo for the currently selected message would be futile. Now select another message in the message list. You should now see the memo window toolbar buttons become active and you can now create the memo via the view folder window. I can create memos but I have to first select another message after opening the memo view and then go back to the original message for which I wish to create the memo. A minor bug. DAC I hit ctrl-shft-i and it was ready right away to create a memo, I DAC typed a few characters and his save and they showed up in the memo DAC column were they belong. Didn't have to do the extra fiddling at all. That's with the preview window, right? Are you doing that via a folder view window? Double click on any message in the main windows message list. This will open the message in another window, i.e., the view folder window. Now hit Ctrl+Shift+I, and try creating and *saving* the memo. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | Moderator(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsTTmFfJ62ArBxfiEQIiiACeJcK2x0xj2bt8iQM5UVhKW2zS5j8AoI3k WOiTnQNRBwfeb8CcXA1IZOZv =084M -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Oddities
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:05:09 +0300, Pete thoughtfully wrote the following: PP Sometimes when writing a message, I need to select a block of text PP with a mouse. If I do it too carelessly, the whole text (not just the PP selected one) moves to the left so that only a half of it remains in PP sight. No srollbar appearing on the bottom of the window. No way I can PP get things back to normal except saving the message and then PP doubleclicking in the outbox message list to get back to the message PP editing window. Whenever you're caught in this bind, try using the arrow keys to scroll or hitting Ctrl+Home to get to the beginning of the message. Using the Shift+arrow keys is a far more accurate and controllable way to select text while editing. Shift+PageDown to select the current page as well as Shift+End to select the cursors position to the end of the current line of text also provide nice adjuncts to the arrow keys. PP Sometimes if I use Enter too hastily (wanting two or more empty lines PP in a text), the cursor just can't make it - sure, it moves to the PP correct place but it also leaves a non-working "copy" of itself PP behind! The way out? I move the working cursor in the same place as PP the "copy" and press any key. I've somehow learned to live with it but PP actually it is *very* annoying! Yes, I see this at times. PP I don't know if it's even possible to solve these problems but what PP I'd sure like to know is: are there any others having similar PP problems?! Your first problem I do not have since I edit only with the keyboard. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | Moderator(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsTQRlfJ62ArBxfiEQJWNQCg63X/Iy6zKm4u5fuWrBn/h+6LlEEAoKH1 TeXDTfiaOlfpm0eFJY7INDbm =AFcN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Changing message replyto via filter
Friday, March 30, 2001, 12:42:32 PM, you wrote: I can create memos but I have to first select another message after opening the memo view and then go back to the original message for which I wish to create the memo. A minor bug. DAC I hit ctrl-shft-i and it was ready right away to create a memo, I DAC typed a few characters and his save and they showed up in the memo DAC column were they belong. Didn't have to do the extra fiddling at all. That's with the preview window, right? Are you doing that via a folder view window? Double click on any message in the main windows message list. This will open the message in another window, i.e., the view folder window. Now hit Ctrl+Shift+I, and try creating and *saving* the memo. I don't know if I was confused before or not, but I think I am now. I haven't been around the list and/or the bat long enough, I guess to be up on what views are called. I think there are two ways to read a message. The first is while I have a column on the left with my folders listed. If I highlight a folder, I have a list of the messages in that folder in a window which goes across the top of the rest of my screen. When I highlight a message, the text shows up on a window across the bottom under the contents list. If the active window is the top right one, and a message is highlighted, I can ctrl-shft-i, and I get a memo of the message window into which I can immediately type, hit save and have the message show up in the memo column. The other possibility is to double click on the message in that top window and I get a window called "view folder 'folder name' of 'e-mail account name'" while that is the active window I can hit ctrl-shft-i and similarly get a memo of the message window into which I can immediately type, hit save and have the message show up in the memo column. In neither instance do I have to change messages after I open the memo of the message window. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas! On Friday, March 30, 2001 at 6:12:08 PM you wrote: And others. Was I so obvious, and this thread is already finished? ;-) Fr uns alte Hasen :-). (Sorry for using German. Just saying it was obvious for us "older" folks. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/1 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQEVAwUBOsTHjbJE5UYkecsfAQKA4AgAyMIrTyyNXv7YBJVmQG/UC8RhwcnL5/U3 ICvHVoXWrKxT1dlAV5s2mVT9zoSkYiqTz4f7aV2G3xKrrJxiFhKURpnW3QSjaB/1 Lak0e7JcK7TvTd5/8Y5bo2oeyLjIMpOYeShgciQAiCy0Xfl516ZUW0HMfC8ZfCvA JnLtxHxLyoWtOoBSqUssZYXIG1iTgjsaCYeMnEWmC4eYO23c3yXtAPM0Jdy2QREZ pwB5GeRUNba7sX41dcb6Gx9t+gbwmSBxxth16EdQrFWbDtuf6Cix0vJGU5jGsZjy qxv5uSY/Tc7W1tdprsIY3DOv3ZAeKnveiQh0uMdqEe/rKZGiWtbjzA== =PeKA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gerd! On Friday, March 30, 2001 at 6:19:21 PM you wrote: Obviously you never used PGP, so you don't know that you don't have to download the pub key *each* time you verify a message. You can import them into your keyring and check the revocation status from time to time I think you know already. But another thing: How come your signature comes out bad? - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/1 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Respect Yourself. (Pops Staples) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQEVAwUBOsTIXbJE5UYkecsfAQKr1wgAgo3TZ4D3mWtXeVmLaghjGRhFcZZZ7SsW V2NKSQopFNGU1dsvqBOHBXSEtNsamOITJgKwTq6NWQpEL/aqiFjleP80ONZfC++9 lrnjjrS6IagnFOSLwdlAdooY0KfdNYXzYmNpkd4gl5mhGYSPlGaEJxrET3zmEYVz Isu07IMqBJLctB18+/+R5ifJ/uSkxOIWkKREEc1v7z7C3oluObzhTSw1LWN/YgFF muNYGf87VRmk8qQt0Abe3uwmPBbosoNXPHWeMB79Hi2LXcswwsHPBSUMw04rKlmb WfiaOoXclfS6l6xKedGGNz5KovE4wNUpwu6EqfF3Zx2S763pY32+gA== =IsGL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Oddities
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Pete! On Friday, March 30, 2001 at 8:05:09 PM you wrote: Sometimes when writing a message, I need to select a block of text with a mouse. If I do it too carelessly, the whole text (not just the selected one) moves to the left so that only a half of it remains in sight. No srollbar appearing on the bottom of the window. No way I can get things back to normal except saving the message and then doubleclicking in the outbox message list to get back to the message editing window. Use cursor keys or "Pos1" (German keyboard, it is the opposite of "End") or PgUp, actually every positioning key will help you somehow. Sometimes if I use Enter too hastily (wanting two or more empty lines in a text), the cursor just can't make it - sure, it moves to the correct place but it also leaves a non-working "copy" of itself behind! The way out? I move the working cursor in the same place as the "copy" and press any key. I've somehow learned to live with it but actually it is *very* annoying! It is a bug somewhere (I assume TB!, since I sometimes encounter the same thing) but it's just of cosmetical importance on your screen. You don't need to do anything about it. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/1 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C If you give up drinking, smoking and sex, you don't live longer. It just seems like it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy: The core element of freedom! iQEVAwUBOsTL9bJE5UYkecsfAQJbEQf9G+WlhPUHF59AsCWoNjidGruoWpeECUD/ REVG4K460nq+YHb0ZatpSaXv/hnHl/8KGF/cAf52k+W7A8dH2FammR423Yval98j 1WXF9NRlrbZJjAFl0E/GRSYQtQWuO+0kiA/WPTwVBUZHfgIV1GMhdxpUHOTmg9an xtT5nriFSCCogoLIWWEUXnQL0X2mq7vTNbt4CigAp5N7OpQqmwyz5Nld8Nq6qjia UeweUslzdd8vVMUBc0NhxXzCBwm09KoV3bO5B8mbvzuLUOiL+kTBg5m3u1ZUVoi/ I3FAqKPxvwQaftzg4cK6Nboa4fBnkawGH3kF6MDN9wtPzj758iU4dw== =ZveB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:09:03 -0600, Dwight wrote these words of wisdom: DAC The other possibility is to double click on the message in that top DAC window and I get a window called "view folder 'folder name' of DAC 'e-mail account name'" while that is the active window I can hit DAC ctrl-shft-i and similarly get a memo of the message window into which DAC I can immediately type, hit save and have the message show up in the DAC memo column. In neither instance do I have to change messages after I DAC open the memo of the message window. Interesting. Would you try something else then. Disable the mail preview window by hitting Shift+Ctrl+E. Now, open a message in the view folder window and try to create a memo for it. If you have the message displayed in the preview window and then open it in folder view, the problem that I mentioned will not reveal itself. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | Moderator(TBUDL|TBBETA|TBTECH) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsTiMlfJ62ArBxfiEQI+VQCgzWM+JYQhO9vXri0CzOx1rwWYTmcAn2+g P+o6wQWTwrvckvLy56LMq5Wi =l7yV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder settings (was: Changing message replyto via filter)
Hi Karin, On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, at 19:57:32 +0200 you wrote: press ALTENTER, ALTU, ENTER, DOWNARROW Yammie! I never realised that. I had some quite folders to correct as well, and could never bring myself to go through the hassle. But this *is* a fast procedure. Thanks! Of course, this works for other folder settings as well. But you have to be careful, as the shortcuts are different, depending on the language setting of TB!. ALTU becomes ALTL in the German version of The Bat! and so on. BTW, anyone noticed that there is no underlined letter for 'Use folder-specific print settings' in the German language file? -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Oddities
Hello Allie, Friday, March 30, 2001, 9:28:22 PM, you wrote: ACM Whenever you're caught in this bind, try using the arrow keys to scroll or ACM hitting Ctrl+Home to get to the beginning of the message. Using the ACM Shift+arrow keys is a far more accurate and controllable way to select ACM text while editing. Thanks, I'll propably use that from now on! So this "escaping text" is a commonly known... er... what-should-I-call-it... bug...? PP Sometimes if I use Enter too hastily (wanting two or more empty lines PP in a text), the cursor just can't make it - ACM Yes, I see this at times. Okay - I just accept it as it is, naturally waiting that someday this oddity could be ironed out. It's annoying, but not a reason to change to a different mailclient. Other mailers just don't have the muscles TB! has. Thanks Allie, and Thomas too! -- Best regards, Pete Still using The Bat! v1.51 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A :-) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Oddities
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:09:05 +0300, Pete thoughtfully wrote the following: PP Thanks, I'll propably use that from now on! So this "escaping text" is PP a commonly known... er... what-should-I-call-it... bug...? Yes. :=) You'll, however, hardly ever encounter it when editing only with the keyboard. PP Sometimes if I use Enter too hastily (wanting two or more empty PP lines in a text), the cursor just can't make it - ACM Yes, I see this at times. PP Okay - I just accept it as it is, naturally waiting that someday this PP oddity could be ironed out. It's annoying, but not a reason to change PP to a different mailclient. Other mailers just don't have the muscles PP TB! has. Again, you'll not encounter this bug when using mainly the keyboard. It tends to occur when trying to establish cursor positioning with the mouse. I hope that they fix it soon. PP Thanks Allie, and Thomas too! You're welcome. :=) - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | List Moderator (and fellow end-user) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsTqq1fJ62ArBxfiEQIgxACguurR6cDnpdR+L4l5K/c1YFzyRhUAoPuQ TQI4RSvezjn4C80rcGe9Hm2S =Kkbd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Changing message replyto via filter
Friday, March 30, 2001, 1:44:50 PM, you wrote: Would you try something else then. Disable the mail preview window by hitting Shift+Ctrl+E. Now, open a message in the view folder window and try to create a memo for it. If you have the message displayed in the preview window and then open it in folder view, the problem that I mentioned will not reveal itself. You are right. You have to open another view folder window then go back before you can do a memo. I'm not sure why one wouldn't want to always have the mail preview window, myself, so one didn't have to open every message in order to read it, but that definitely seems like a bug not a feature, and it does do what you described. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:32:16 -0600, Dwight wrote these comments: If you have the message displayed in the preview window and then open it in folder view, the problem that I mentioned will not reveal itself. DAC You are right. You have to open another view folder window then go DAC back before you can do a memo. I'm not sure why one wouldn't want to DAC always have the mail preview window, myself, so one didn't have to DAC open every message in order to read it, Open another message in the View folder window. In the View Folder window go to the 'view' menu item and select 'message list'. You should see now that I don't have to manually open each message. If you use the mail tickers view folder window you have the ability of viewing unread messages across folders and across accounts. I can browse multiple folders side by side also. The preview window actually doesn't offer as much versatility when browsing message folders. :=) - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | List Moderator (and fellow end-user) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsT28lfJ62ArBxfiEQJzhwCdGqS20bdV3EeL5o3rbyKUMYVcrSUAniY9 5dMToluq0lg87EjSgHvyRLYp =dqKD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Oddities
Hi Pete, @ 1:05:09 PM on 3/30/2001, Pete P wrote: ... I don't know if it's even possible to solve these problems but what I'd sure like to know is: are there any others having similar problems?! Yes. I experience the same, daily. -- Brian Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Architect, Designer, and Programmer PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8 [TB! 1.52 Beta/1, Windows 98 (SE) 4.10 Build A] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Changing message replyto via filter
Friday, March 30, 2001, 3:13:22 PM, you wrote: DAC I'm not sure why one wouldn't want to DAC always have the mail preview window, myself, so one didn't have to DAC open every message in order to read it, Open another message in the View folder window. In the View Folder window go to the 'view' menu item and select 'message list'. You should see now that I don't have to manually open each message. If you use the mail tickers view folder window you have the ability of viewing unread messages across folders and across accounts. I can browse multiple folders side by side also. The preview window actually doesn't offer as much versatility when browsing message folders. :=) I especially like the ability to go thru the new mail in one window. Thank you. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
On 30-03-2001 at 20:13, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: Karin wrote: [memos] KS I wish it were. I never use the preview window; I read mail KS using the folder view and then hop from message to message. KS For me, that means that memo's are inaccesible: I can write KS one but you can't save it. Try the following: Open a view folder window and then hit Ctrl+Shift+I. This should open the memo view window. The 'save' and 'clear' toolbar buttons should be blanked out so trying to create a memo for the currently selected message would be futile. Now select another message in the message list. You should now see the memo window toolbar buttons become active and you can now create the memo via the view folder window. Blimey, you're right - although it is a bit buggy. I might actualy start using memos from now on. Thanks, Allie. [me quoting Marck's old rant] KS The address auto-view is more responsive with the preview window. More responsive? Would you explain what you mean here? Erm, that was form an old message from Marck. You'd better ask him ;-) - K - -- Capricorns don't believe in astrology. - Daniel Richler: Kicking Tomorrow -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:51:57 +0200, Karin wrote these words of wisdom: More responsive? Would you explain what you mean here? KS Erm, that was form an old message from Marck. You'd better KS ask him ;-) Oh. I didn't realize it was a quote from one of Marck's messages. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | List Moderator (and fellow end-user) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsU7WFfJ62ArBxfiEQLexgCfS8lO1aUQk8dgEoCH/vkfk+WYXtAAnAu1 54oH2yTZuiocQV+GWpj2TX04 =GfeH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Karin, On 31 March 2001 at 03:51:57 +0200 (which was 02:51 where I live) Karin Spaink wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: KS Blimey, you're right - although it is a bit buggy. I might KS actualy start using memos from now on. Thanks, Allie. KS [me quoting Marck's old rant] KS The address auto-view is more responsive with the preview window. More responsive? Would you explain what you mean here? KS Erm, that was form an old message from Marck. You'd better KS ask him ;-) Don't look at me g. It was Allie that said it ... and he was talking about the Memo auto view: Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 02:11:54 -0500 From: A. Curtis Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Personal Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I can edit memo's only when messages are open via the preview window. The address auto-view is more responsive with the preview window." My messages all have silverstones.com IDs. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Consultant Software Engineer [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 04) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOsU+9TnkJKuSnc2gEQI7QwCgu2rsBPdyHV4Q5Rte8pxrFfp858UAnREn WFtBmazykEbKE1CcG48bxibH =9zHR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:20:36 +0100, Marck contributed this to our collective wisdom: KS Erm, that was form an old message from Marck. You'd better KS ask him ;-) MDP Don't look at me g. It was Allie that said it ... and he was MDP talking about the Memo auto view: ROTFL!!!1 You know Marck? When I was reading the rant I said to myself that this was exactly how I felt some time ago before the view folder shortcomings were fixed. :=) That comment about the address-autoview being more responsive must have been made concerning problems which had not yet been fixed. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin | List Moderator (and fellow end-user) Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS! ___ The Bat! v1.52 Beta/1 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build/04.. Comment: PGP Key ID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOsVE2lfJ62ArBxfiEQLoEgCdFSQh7ZXW4c/jmVKyG6BA6Y+Q8q8AniOK +TzfYqLGYZf1eysWz8fo0kWo =jsMp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
Hallo Dwight, On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:09:03 -0600 GMT (31/03/2001, 03:09 +0800 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC I don't know if I was confused before or not, but I think I am DAC now. I haven't been around the list and/or the bat long enough, I DAC guess to be up on what views are called. Let me help you (and probably others) out here. DAC I think there are two ways to read a message. The first is while DAC I have a column on the left with my folders listed. If I DAC highlight a folder, I have a list of the messages in that folder DAC in a window which goes across the top of the rest of my screen. DAC When I highlight a message, the text shows up on a window across DAC the bottom under the contents list. This window is called the preview window or the preview message pane. People have found other expressions, but always containing the word "preview". DAC The other possibility is to double click on the message in that top DAC window and I get a window called "view folder 'folder name' of 'e-mail DAC account name'" This is called the folder view. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. "The alimentary canal is located in the northern part of Indiana." Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder settings (was: Changing message replyto via filter)
Hallo Lars, On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:52:13 +0200 GMT (31/03/2001, 03:52 +0800 GMT), Lars Geiger wrote: LG BTW, anyone noticed that there is no underlined letter for 'Use LG folder-specific print settings' in the German language file? Send this to Dieter or to the German list, it's an easy fix. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I wonder how much deeper would the ocean be without sponges. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Oddities
Hallo Dierk, On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:09:55 +0200 GMT (31/03/2001, 03:09 +0800 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH Use cursor keys or "Pos1" (German keyboard, FYI The key is called "Home" on the US keyboard. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Undo, Prievious view commands
Hello TBUDL, By mistake I moved a message to a folder containing thousands of messages. I don't remember which message it was and I wish to undo this action. Is there a command (like that in Windows Explorer) for this? While previewing a message, I clicked on another one. Is there a way to go back (without remembering what it was and manually searching) to the first one (as with a web browser)? -- Best regards, jlaikan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dierk Haasis ! On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:54:36 +0200 GMT your local time, which was 30.03.2001, 20:54 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote: But another thing: How come your signature comes out bad? Thanks for telling me this. I usually don't check my own sig. I now checked the same message in my sent-folder and BAD! Could be, that I still didn't adjust the GnuPG settings correctly to be fully compatible with PGP. Ok, now let's try the standard version PGP 6.5.8ckt - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.51 PGP/GPG-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - Erwerbsregel #27 Es gibt nichts gefhrlicheres als einen ehrlichen Geschftsmann. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Digitally signed for authentication! iQA/AwUBOsV5Kky/sHrVbGGHEQJ9WACgzW9Cs6Tw/3/v5Q8UV0ymdyi+n0wAnRRN CSeY8hyldULrJBF/pFwhFSaL =qjTg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP (Was Re[2]: Viewing Messages)
Hi David, on Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:25:10 +0100 GMT (which was 30.03.2001, 18:25 +0100 GMT where I live) David Elliott wrote: Correct, but this one will be good. -=#;-] Yu are right! :-)) -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 I use The Bat! v1.51 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A ! -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
On 29-03-2001 at 22:09, Dwight A Corrin kindly wrote: Thursday, March 29, 2001, 1:28:54 PM, you wrote: :-) All we have in TB to parallel this is the Memo. Ctrl-Shift-I. This is good. I wish it were. I never use the preview window; I read mail using the folder view and then hop from message to message. For me, that means that memo's are inaccesible: I can write one but you can't save it. As Marck put it, some time ago [Sept. 27 2000; [Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... once the message is *open*, and there is an associated memo, the memo-autoview window will display it. This is so whether the message is open via the preview window or via folder view. *However*, if I wish to edit a memo or add one to a message, I can only do so if the message is open via the preview window. rant It bugs me that I can do more to messages when they are open via the preview window than when open in folder view. After-all, it's supposed to be just a preview window. From the way it functions, it really aught to be called the main message view window because the message is clearly *opened* when being viewed via the preview window. I can edit memo's only when messages are open via the preview window. The address auto-view is more responsive with the preview window. This goes against what is intuitively expected in the context of what a preview window is supposed to represent metaphorically. /rant - K - -- Maybe Ellen Cherry Charles didn't look like a million dollars, but nobody could deny that she looked like the *tax* on a million dollars. - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org