Can not view html messages
When receiving html messages, it occurs to me very often that the bat! does not show them (it stays on the message I viewed before) and does not mark it as read after a few seconds. Sometimes, it helps to restart the bat!, but this does not carry me far. Does anyone have an idea about what to do? I would be very happy, since I really enjoy using the bat!, but can not work properly given these bugs. I use TheBat! v1.60q under Win98; under NT, these problems do not occur. All the best, Markus Mueller P.S. I'm new to the list, and I hope this question has not been asked too often -- at any case, I did not find a similar topic in the database. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi Jonathan, Thanks very much for your excellent explanation. Maybe you might want to take a look http://www.ordb.org and do a lookup on there, see if it's listed. It checks out OK: Queue status for outbox.attcanada.ca (207.245.244.41) Last added to the queue by: 205.158.67.154 Last added to the queue at: 2002-05-04 04:30 CET The server explicitly rejected all probes, and has been deemed secure by the ORDB testing engine. I would have been surprised if an outfit as large as ATT had been rejected, but one never knows. I don't personally think it is a TB issue itself... more of an issue with the ISP setup. I have switched to sending emails to my colleague's university address... a solution that works, but doesn't fix the problem. I didn't feel as though the tech support individual had a vast depth of knowledge, although it was deeper than mine :-) They probably won't get a lot of complaints if it's restricted to TB! users. -- Regards, Mike Using The Bat! 1.60q under Windows 98 4.10 Build A = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mike Harlos Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada PGP Keys: DH/DSS- 0x8CD85BCERSA- 0xBBDB40B1 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
Hello Paul! On Tuesday, June 25, 2002 at 11:09:37 PM you wrote: I don't see that in my circle of friends or co-workers. More people are looking to simple modular concepts to handle individual tasks. Just to show that I'm still alive. I see the same trend, people going from all-encompassing electronic utility devices called Handy in Germany (cellular phones to the rest of the world) back to small easy-to-use mobile phones. For a short time games, calendars, changeable logos/sounds were all the hype. People were desperately waiting for n ew technologies like WAP and UMTS. Well, the first one was launched but never gained ground. The second one has not yet even been launched (and I doubt it ever will sky-rocket). Nokia and Siemens may still be the best-selling cells, but Motorola is gaining because they leave out a lot of gimmickery. For software I see the same. Like for bags, clothing and cars (No, there really is no all-purpose-vehicle, you have to compromise). -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.60q on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C No name calling. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Self-signed SSL certificates
Hi, I've been testing The Bat! with TLS/SSL and it doesn't work. When I use OutLook Express it asks me if I wanna use the unsecure cert., but The Bat! simply sends the pop3 program a unkown ca error. Is there a setting I can enable so The Bat! will ask me the same question as Outlook Express or is this a known issue with The Bat!. Thanks in advance for any replies. Yours truly, Ralf van der Enden PS: I use The Bat! 1.60q Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Self-signed SSL certificates
Hello Ralf, On Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 9:18:11 AM you [RvdE] wrote (at least in part): RvdE Is there a setting I can enable so The Bat! will ask me the same RvdE question as Outlook Express No. RvdE or is this a known issue with The Bat!. Yes. Additionally (yeah, here come the important part of the e-mail *G*) there's a way you can tell TB! about this cert. Create a new entry in your 'Trusted Root CA' (only visible if you have activated 'Internal Implementation' in 'Options' / 'S/MIME'). Import the _private key_ of your self signed cert as certificate for this entry. If you have set up The Bat! using 'Microsoft CryptoAPI' for 'S/MIME' you'll have to import the public key into the trusted root storage you can see from within IE. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Chamberlain loves the working man - he loves to see him work. - W. Churchill Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
Hello Jonathan, It was foretold that on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 12:57 GMT -0500, Jonathan Angliss [JA] would type: JA There was a recursive macro developed a while back on this list, JA but I couldn't give you any links, as I forgot what it was under. Actually, it was on the TBTECH list. The original thread gave us: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbtech@thebat.dutaint.com/msg01525.html However, because of a bug fix in TB, the correct version is now: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg42507.html -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal I should probably engage that largish, grey organ lurking inside of my skull a bit more often. I think it's called a brain. -- Simon Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail downloading problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Jan Rifkinson [JR] wrote: JR NOD32 stopped TB! in it's tracks by waiting for a user JR response to TB's infected temp file. That's terribly unusual. I've downloaded quite a few viruses with Amon running and TB! has never been stopped. OTOH, I got this machine with NAV2002 and I soon after detected its presence when it did stop TB! during an infected message download. Since I knew about the temp file problem (reported on this list), I just excluded the temp file from real time scanning and that stopped the problem. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAj0azzgACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LH+ACgvIXRr6ctDNqqx3jhkEk6Hsx5 Cd0AnRC+pbQEzwwTGI0chS4I+egzzikq =R7IJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Luigi, @27 June 2002, 07:04:39 +0200 (06:04 UK time) Luigi Rosa in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Maurice Snellen: MS Does anyone have a killer solution to handle mailinglists which don't MS use the Reply-To: header to direct replies back to the list? You filter the messages to a single folder, then in the Reply template of that folder you put this: %TO=%TO=List Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] This advice cannot be given without issuing the standard health warning! ;-) stock lecture I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. In 150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly. There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates. There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when you use AB templates. The dangers are all complacency based and are at their worst in templates which use the %TO= macro. If, at the instant you start a new message you happen to be focused on the wrong folder, the message gets given the wrong address. This happens when you click a mailto without changing folders. The results vary from embarrassing to excruciating depending upon the content of the misdirected mail. BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] without a %TO='' before it. So any pre-existing addresses are retained. /stock lecture Having said all that, folder templates are the only answer. Make sure that you only define folder reply templates though and use the address book templates for new messages. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GtG0OeQkq5KdzaARAu8MAJ9Ny1htgw0+HLqDbRs/JBCwQEkVVACeLC34 DBQWWA17q+Xj6m1FDriEoZ0= =+nWR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
GMT Time Stamp
Hi, This is my first post. Just migrated to The Bat! from Pocomail. How do I create a GMT time stamp in the Reply prefix that I see people using in this list. Preferably, where can I cut paste the macro from :) While I'm at it, can anyone reccommend a good HTML editor (with as smaller a foorprint as possible) that I can use to create an occassional HTML messages. Also, I can't load the FAQ pages at Silverstone. Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 98 4.10 (Build A ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.4 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] Champagne for my true friends and true pain for my sham friends! Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: New User Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gary, @27 June 2002, 21:40:04 -0500 (03:40 UK time) Gary Lucas in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The FAQ page is full of javascript errors that prevent it from displaying in both Netscape and IE on my machine. The pages work perfectly on IE 5.5 and later, Mozilla and many others. NetScape is buggy and there's nothing I can do about that and I'm trying to code around some of Opera's shortcomings. With those provisos the FAQ works well and includes a link at the front page to a flat version which will work on any browser. There seem to be paragraph and block formatting functions, but can't figure out how to do simple formatting like bolding/highlighting text. Probably Outlook Express g. TB is a plain text email client. You can't set character attributes in plain text. You have to use ASCII emphasising like *bold*, /italic/, _underline_ and SHOUTING. This is actually the only way to ensure that the person receiving your message can understand the stresses where they appear. Let's face it, email is about who we are sending it to, not about what we see. The best of all worlds is where we can guarantee that what we see is what we send is what the recipient sees. The Bat! is one of the best in the world at that job. Is a local font change possible? Am I missing something? That's a matter of changing the editor preferences. It won't affect what you send. Also, again because of the plain text limitation and because of the column formatting capabilities of the editor, you are restricted to using fixed width fonts in the editor. You may be able to get hold of some alternatives. One favourite is Andale Mono, available from the MS downloads site. ... It would be much nicer to have it open a new-mail list It is one. Just enable the Message list of the Browse ticker messages folder view window that opens when you double click on the ticker. Also, the silly banner won't go away unless I read all the messages. Isn't there some way to dismiss it? It seems like the only choices here are to have NO ALERTING or to have NUISSANCE ALERTING. Is there some work around? No, but I keep mine minimal by shrinking it to the smallest possible width and sliding it off the edge of the screen so that only a half inch of it is visible. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Gtl2OeQkq5KdzaARAoVYAJ0XkWWPQwUM9yKSEOvzTQ+bPzGwJACcCio/ +k24tn85Nj7Feei8YnMtlww= =VZ4X -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mike, @27 June 2002, 01:43:15 -0500 (07:43 UK time) Mike Harlos in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Jonathan Angliss on TBUDL: ... snip I don't personally think it is a TB issue itself... more of an issue with the ISP setup. ... snip They probably won't get a lot of complaints if it's restricted to TB! users. See [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. That's definitive for me. This ISP is deliberately rejecting mail written by TB users and for no other reason than that the X-Mailer header says The Bat. That's an outrage! Can we have the email address of someone there to flood with complaints? Mind you, they won't get through! Not without removing the The Bat! X-Mailer header. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GttYOeQkq5KdzaARAizxAJ4iUWMWcCUV8TS6Yt3uN0/ftUReowCgoZpn ASfVmhSqddwab4L8YeSPM7M= =Oaz/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
garbage characters
I commonly get messages that have special characters converted to garbage. An example from tonight: positions $B%_(B141 and $B%_(B90, collectively designated the 3$B%((BTAAT element, are This particular one came with a Word file attached, so I can confidently state that: $B%_(B is an en-dash (used here as a minus sign: 141 and 90) $B%(( is a multiplication symbol (3×BTAAT). The person sending these emails is using QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1, and the messages are coming through as plain text only (no HTML attachment). I assume the problem text is being copied from Word and pasted into the email. Can someone tell me: Where are the characters being messed up (TB! receiving, Eudora sending, mail server transferring)? Is there anything I can do in TB! to fix this? Is there anything I can tell the sender to do in Eudora to fix this? Both sender and receiver are in Australia, writing in Australian English, but the problem text is often copied from Word files created by Japanese or Korean authors. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat 1.60q Windows XP 5.1 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: GMT Time Stamp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sudip, @27 June 2002, 15:00:31 +0545 (10:15 UK time) Sudip Pokhrel in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Also, I can't load the FAQ pages at Silverstone. [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] ^ There's your problem. Follow the Flat version links on the first page, which you will be able to read. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GuTZOeQkq5KdzaARAh9KAJ4uUKMsPNnutuR44XrTIBRdTP54JACeObOy rLnVBYzIIq4WHTXAm+Mgcw4= =RaLD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: GMT Time Stamp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sudip, Thursday, June 27, 2002, 5:15:31 AM, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SP While I'm at it, can anyone reccommend a good HTML editor (with as SP smaller a foorprint as possible) that I can use to create an SP occassional HTML messages. Two suggesions: 1. http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/ 2. Early freeware versions of Ray Bradbury's Homesite 1.2 are still floating around the net if you look creatively. This is the core that has migrated through Corporate America all the way up to the latest Macromedia DreamweaverMX. Learn the basic Homesite and you will be prepared should your desires ever take you to Dreamweaver. - -- My Best! Mike MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/the_bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) DH/DSS PGP Key: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/musings/ -or- DH/DSS PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=key_request [Failure is not an option. It is a privilege reserved only for those who try.] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x26C51F27 Comment: Fingerprint: 62E1 E4F5 80C8 6825 8DC4 8C1D A402 E6B0 26C5 1F27 iQA/AwUBPRrnG6QC5rAmxR8nEQK83ACfXLu+FzTuYLn0CQS1vj4zC28j4wIAn3F0 2vW7GNeIGLaVgr5YSBr35WUE =w/BZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Check Mail problems with q?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi List, All this week, I thought my ISP's mail service was squirrely and blamed it on the rain. I now discover, by checking with my previous mail program (Agent 1.91) there is nothing wrong with the server. It's TB! I would like to go back to k but deleted it with the upgrade to q. Could someone please point me to k? TIA - -- Mike MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/the_bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) DH/DSS PGP Key: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/musings/ -or- DH/DSS PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=key_request -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x26C51F27 Comment: Fingerprint: 62E1 E4F5 80C8 6825 8DC4 8C1D A402 E6B0 26C5 1F27 iQA/AwUBPRrqp6QC5rAmxR8nEQI0owCfRkSfDPkjP52FsGxuIz6yYLScZb0An360 vIrox15hjFSCSV93b5JDEkQe =E8Nw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : That's an outrage! Can we have the email address of someone there to flood with complaints? Well, they seem to have other problems as well. Their web site is down (www.cogeco.ca or www.cogeco.com). Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: garbage characters
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 at 19:54 GMT +1000 (27/06/2002 16:54 where you think I live) Tim=[T] wrote to TBUDL : Can someone tell me: Where are the characters being messed up (TB! receiving, Eudora sending, mail server transferring)? Message encoding. Is there anything I can do in TB! to fix this? Ask Ritlabs to support Enrich Text Format. Is there anything I can tell the sender to do in Eudora to fix this? Do not send message using Enrich Text format, and disable use format as sender use (or something like that), always use pure plaintext. Both sender and receiver are in Australia, writing in Australian English, but the problem text is often copied from Word files created by Japanese or Korean authors. MS Family (including when Word or Wordpad set as editor) using RTF as default enrich text format, on this case TB! will see as TNEF (the generic name of MS RTF) you will see an attachment winmail.dat when receive this message. But Pegasus and Eudora see that as Enrich Text, so when she reply or forward it does maintain the format by default (he feel right, but actually no). -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.60q under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Check Mail problems with q?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike, Thursday, June 27, 2002, 6:36:14 AM, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MA All this week, I thought my ISP's mail service was squirrely and MA blamed it on the rain. I now discover, by checking with my MA previous mail program (Agent 1.91) there is nothing wrong with the MA server. It's TB! WRONG! Never mind. I turned off NAV e-mail scanning so TB! could handle it and that's what was going on. Somehow NAV2002 halted my mail checks. Sorry list. - -- My Best! Mike MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/the_bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) DH/DSS PGP Key: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/musings/ -or- DH/DSS PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=key_request [Martyrdom does not end something; it is only the beginning. GANDHI ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x26C51F27 Comment: Fingerprint: 62E1 E4F5 80C8 6825 8DC4 8C1D A402 E6B0 26C5 1F27 iQA/AwUBPRrsw6QC5rAmxR8nEQJeZgCg6OdBXADy+zRhfT4vCg/D1tKZDGMAoIrE Cs04MwP3rKmQd6WtCMXgge38 =Hg5U -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Check Mail problems with q?
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Mike Apsey wrote: All this week, I thought my ISP's mail service was squirrely and blamed it on the rain. I now discover, by checking with my previous mail program (Agent 1.91) there is nothing wrong with the server. It's TB! I would like to go back to k but deleted it with the upgrade to q. Could someone please point me to k? here it is: ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/exe/tb160k.rar -- Marek Mikus Czech Support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.ipex.cz Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : That's an outrage! Can we have the email address of someone there to flood with complaints? Their web site (which is, as I mentioned before, currently down) mentions [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I'm posting this address since it is also visible on their Error Occurred While Processing Request page.) Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: GMT Time Stamp
Hello Sudip, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 15:00:31 +0545 GMT (27/06/02, 16:15 +0700 GMT), Sudip Pokhrel wrote: SPThis is my first post. Just migrated to The Bat! from Pocomail. Welcome to the list. :-) SPHow do I create a GMT time stamp in the Reply prefix that I see SPpeople using in this list. Preferably, where can I cut paste the SPmacro from :) Since you cannot access the FAQ site, you can cp from here: On%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%- %REGEXPMATCH=%HEADERS GMT (%ODateShort, %OTime +0700 GMT), %OFROMNAME wrote: At the end of the second line, you see +0700 GMT hardcoded. Replace that with you own time zone (+0545 GMT). This regular expression, by the way, was created a few years (?) ago by cooperation of several people on this list. :-) -- Greetings to the roof of the world, Thomas (Bangkok). Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wann wird denn endlich der Niagara-Fall geloest oder die Formel 1 ausgerechnet ?? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can not view html messages
Hello Markus, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:42:05 +0200 GMT (27/06/02, 13:42 +0700 GMT), Markus Mueller wrote: MM When receiving html messages, it occurs to me very often that the bat! MM does not show them (it stays on the message I viewed before) and does MM not mark it as read after a few seconds. Sometimes, it helps to MM restart the bat!, but this does not carry me far. Does anyone have an MM idea about what to do? I would be very happy, since I really enjoy MM using the bat!, but can not work properly given these bugs. MM I use TheBat! v1.60q under Win98; I cannot confirm this at all, also using v1.60q under Win98. What are your settings: HTML autoview yes/no, Rich Text Viewer yes/no? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ist es nicht merkwuerdig, dass jeden Tag gerade so viel passiert, wie in die Zeitung passt? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
OT: Mobile phone fads (was: Please release BatNews!)
Hello Dierk, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:05:43 +0200 GMT (27/06/02, 14:05 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH I see the same trend, people going from all-encompassing electronic DH utility devices called Handy in Germany (cellular phones to the rest DH of the world) PMFJI but this is not correct. Cellular phone (or short cell-phone) is the word used in USA, but over here most people would use the word mobile phone or just mobile. You also find the word Mobile followed by a phone number, on many business cards. I also recently received an email from an Englishman (actually living in England, so not being influenced by Asian English) who sent me his *mobile* phone number (choice of word by him, enhancement by me). Except in Singapore, where people say hand phone, and the business cards will show H/P followed by the number. ;-) DH For a short time games, calendars, changeable logos/sounds were all DH the hype. I think that's quite normal, given the amount of advertising money that went into the campaigns. DH People were desperately waiting for n ew technologies like DH WAP and UMTS. Well, the first one was launched but never gained DH ground. The second one has not yet even been launched (and I doubt it DH ever will sky-rocket). I am eagerly waiting for UMTS, for the simple reason that I find current speeds (including downloads speeds we now get at the internet) are ridiculous compared to what is to come. A web page needing more than a 100th of a second to buld up? - Ridiculous! Internet connection by GSM with a max of 9600 baud? - Ridiculous! BTW: Is the American CDMA system the same as the European/Asian UMTS? DH Nokia and Siemens may still be the best-selling cells, but Motorola is DH gaining because they leave out a lot of gimmickery. The markets in Europe and Asia may differ, but Nokia is still the (uncontested?) market leader over here. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: garbage characters
Hello Tim, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:54:49 +1000 GMT (27/06/02, 16:54 +0700 GMT), Tim wrote: T Where are the characters being messed up (TB! receiving, Eudora T sending, mail server transferring)? I assume the font you are using has no equivalents to the ASCII codes that are being transferred. T Is there anything I can do in TB! to fix this? Ask the sender which fnt he is using (maybe ask him to switch to a fixed-width one before cp'ing) and use the same under Options / Editor Preferences / Display / Font / Change. Also check out the charset he is sending the message in. You'll find that in the headers of the message you received from him. T Is there anything I can tell the sender to do in Eudora to fix this? That's not so easy to reply at this stage, we have to read on first: T Both sender and receiver are in Australia, writing in Australian T English, but the problem text is often copied from Word files created T by Japanese or Korean authors. ...and these authors might be using DBCS. Even though the words you see may be English, the weird characters you reported are high-ASCII characters. And they being treated differently by DBCS-capable Windows versions. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I got into the gene pool while the lifeguard wasn't watching. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @27 June 2002, 12:18:12 +0200 (11:18 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: MDP That's an outrage! Can we have the email address of someone there to MDP flood with complaints? Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've sent a message there and to the postmaster at the same domain. They accepted the message from me because I use SecureBat! and not The Bat! Anyone else wanting to complain can park a message in the outbox, export it to a Unix MBX, remove the X-Mailer line in a text editor, re-import it to the Outbox and finally let it fly. If anyone wants to see what I wrote, I've posted it here: http://www.silverstones.com/cocego.txt - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GvFlOeQkq5KdzaARAnkrAJ9eKsKGU7YZGMrJa6cU9guVWLZykQCfQ2iA 8AJ4yMEKPviGubvYwaYPdFY= =okvi -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: GMT Time Stamp
Hello Thomas You wrote On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, at 17:29:39 [GMT +0700] (20:29:39 Thursday, 27 June 2002 where I live):- At the end of the second line, you see +0700 GMT hardcoded. Replace that with you own time zone (+0545 GMT). This regular expression, by the way, was created a few years (?) ago by cooperation of several people on this list. :-) This one may be better, no hard coding:- You wrote %SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS On%SUBPATT=2, at %SUBPATT=3 [GMT%SUBPATT=4] (%OTIMELONG %ODATE where I live):- -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML mail spam not welcome. Using Bat! 1.60q 7BE05C47 - Being used by Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram FILES=1 BUFFERS=0 FCBS=SAYWHAT BREAK=GIMME Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hello Marck You wrote On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, at 12:05:06 [GMT +0100] (21:05:06 Thursday, 27 June 2002 where I live):- Anyone else wanting to complain can park a message in the outbox, export it to a Unix MBX, remove the X-Mailer line in a text editor, re-import it to the Outbox and finally let it fly. What logical reason would they have for their bouncing of mail withX-Mailer Bat!? -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML mail spam not welcome. Using Bat! 1.60q 7BE05C47 - Being used by Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram FROG,n. An amphibian with edible legs. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi Ravi, O am not sure if this is what Roelof already did but you could try the following. -Make a sort email in TB! and address it to one of your other accounts. -Save it as a draft. -Go to the outbox, select the msg and save as (right click) MSG file. - Open the file in Notepad and edit what you think is the offending statement (X-Mailer?) - Save the file - Double click (if MSG files are associated with TB!) -File should appear in your inbox - Move to outbox and press sent. It sounds more difficult than it is and it will give you the possibility to have full control over the headers and see what the problem is, if indeed it is there. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Wear the old coat and buy the new book. - Austin Phelps - Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Markus, @27 June 2002, 12:53:09 +0200 (11:53 UK time) Markus Gloede in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBUDL: That's an outrage! Can we have the email address of someone there to flood with complaints? Their web site (which is, as I mentioned before, currently down) mentions [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I'm posting this address since it is also visible on their Error Occurred While Processing Request page.) That address is currently down too. My SMTP server is struggling to get some kind of reply from their MX. (i.e., I just threw mhesler a copy g). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GvSqOeQkq5KdzaARAtjNAJwLx++maGRcahWmPgzAtVQBkvP05gCePl2s FzaejpS3TE/26rSF9M0+vpI= =7Z9c -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, @27 June 2002, 21:14:59 +1000 (12:14 UK time) John Phillips in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: Anyone else wanting to complain can park a message in the outbox, export it to a Unix MBX, remove the X-Mailer line in a text editor, re-import it to the Outbox and finally let it fly. What logical reason would they have for their bouncing of mail withX-Mailer Bat!? That's what I asked them! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GvT2OeQkq5KdzaARAs2RAKCkklqzmgYWDJdR0Spe2m9FvHY7IACgphq5 9FVRsdalnq0cOlGdMYFzDo8= =eiUj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, 12:14:59 PM, John Phillips wrote: What logical reason would they have for their bouncing of mail withX-Mailer Bat!? I cannot think of many. One possibility is that they had a lot of problems with spam from someone using TB (heaven forbid!), the TB was the only consistent thing to filter on. Perhaps it is accidental - the filter might look for an ! in the x-mailer: field. Or perhaps they are sponsored by MS! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Ticker properties
Hey Jason, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 to write mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 9:49:16 PM. JD A right-click Dismiss command would be good Try right-click Hide JD but having it dismiss itself when there's no messages scrolling by JD would be even better. Agreed, I removed a folder from the ticker display, and ended up closing TB and reopening it. Not a big hassle as I don't do it often, but... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) A television may insult your intelligence but nothing rubs it in like a computer. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
Hi Januk, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 00:55:55 -0700, you wrote: Actually, it was on the TBTECH list. The original thread gave us: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbtech@thebat.dutaint.com/msg01525.html I knew one appeared on there, as it was referenced a couple of times in the same thread, but then somebody posted one on here too. Thanks for passing the links on for me :) However, because of a bug fix in TB, the correct version is now: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg42507.html Ahh... there is the one posted on this list ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Can Not Send Mail
Wow! Thank you to everyone for all your assistance (this community alone is more than worth the price of the software!). I will try and deal with this at the yocal level and report back on progress (or lack thereof whichever the case may be). Thanks again, Ravi On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:05:06 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MDP Hash: SHA1 MDP MDP Hi Daniel, MDP MDP @27 June 2002, 12:18:12 +0200 (11:18 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen MDP [CopyCats] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to MDP Marck D Pearlstone: MDP MDP MDP That's an outrage! Can we have the email address of someone there to MDP MDP flood with complaints? MDP MDPEmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP MDP I've sent a message there and to the postmaster at the same domain. MDP They accepted the message from me because I use SecureBat! and not The MDP Bat! MDP MDP Anyone else wanting to complain can park a message in the outbox, MDP export it to a Unix MBX, remove the X-Mailer line in a text editor, MDP re-import it to the Outbox and finally let it fly. MDP MDP If anyone wants to see what I wrote, I've posted it here: MDP http://www.silverstones.com/cocego.txt MDP MDP - -- MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator MDP TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 MDP ' MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- MDP Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) MDP MDP iD8DBQE9GvFlOeQkq5KdzaARAnkrAJ9eKsKGU7YZGMrJa6cU9guVWLZykQCfQ2iA MDP 8AJ4yMEKPviGubvYwaYPdFY= MDP =okvi MDP -END PGP SIGNATURE- MDP MDP MDP MDP MDP Current Ver: 1.60q MDP FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com MDP Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com MDP Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
ON Thursday, June 27, 2002, 1:14:59 PM, you wrote: JP Hello Marck JP You wrote On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, at 12:05:06 [GMT +0100] (21:05:06 Thursday, 27 June 2002 where I live):- Anyone else wanting to complain can park a message in the outbox, export it to a Unix MBX, remove the X-Mailer line in a text editor, re-import it to the Outbox and finally let it fly. JP What logical reason would they have for their bouncing of mail withX-Mailer JP Bat!? In the light of these events, should we ask the developers to make the X-mailer field an option or one that can be changed? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= In heaven all the interesting people are missing. - Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche - Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi Mike, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 01:43:15 -0500, you wrote: Thanks very much for your excellent explanation. You're welcome... hope I didn't lose you anywhere. Maybe you might want to take a look http://www.ordb.org and do a lookup on there, see if it's listed. It checks out OK: Queue status for outbox.attcanada.ca (207.245.244.41) Last added to the queue by: 205.158.67.154 Last added to the queue at: 2002-05-04 04:30 CET The server explicitly rejected all probes, and has been deemed secure by the ORDB testing engine. I would have been surprised if an outfit as large as ATT had been rejected, but one never knows. I thought that too, but recently our mail scanner software that scans for viruses has a feature to read rbl (ordb and spamcop) reported Verizon/GTE as having an insecure mail server. When I investigated myself, I confirmed it. I was in touch with a friend at Verizon, and notified her, she passed the info onto her techs. I don't personally think it is a TB issue itself... more of an issue with the ISP setup. I have switched to sending emails to my colleague's university address... a solution that works, but doesn't fix the problem. I guess it is a way around until either we, or they find a resolution to the issue. I didn't feel as though the tech support individual had a vast depth of knowledge, although it was deeper than mine :-) Most of the time, ISP's tech supports are trained on the basic information, such as how to check to make sure the user is connected, how to test for bad lines etc, how to check configurations, how to check on certain server statuses. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Check Mail problems with q?
Dear Mike, Thursday, June 27, 2002, 12:45:16 PM, you wrote: MA WRONG! Never mind. I turned off NAV e-mail scanning so TB! could MA handle it and that's what was going on. Somehow NAV2002 halted my mail MA checks. Strange. At lesat there was no problem with NAV Corporate v7.50.846 and TB! 1.60q and k. I am using k-version only because of problems with international characters in HTML part in q-version. -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version :1.60k, Running at NT 5.0, Build 2195 Service Pack 2. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to
Hey Marck, My MUA believes you used Ritlabs SecureBat! (v1.60q) to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 4:49:49 AM. MDP BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct MDP %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] without a %TO='' before it. So any MDP pre-existing addresses are retained. I use a Quick Template to do the same thing (had lots of problems using a folder template...), but it also clears %CC='' ,- [ perl QT ] | %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%CC= `- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi Marck, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:05:06 +0100, you wrote: If anyone wants to see what I wrote, I've posted it here: http://www.silverstones.com/cocego.txt Nice email. You do realise they'll probably read it in Outlook/Outlook Express, and your nicely formatted tags will be all screwy ;) I still find that the action they have taken is remarkably unusual. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Self-signed SSL certificates
Hi Peter, Thanks for that quick response. I'll try to get that certificate imported. Haven't had luck with that before, but maybe I can do it by using MSIE. Ralf Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: New User Questions
Hey Jonathan, My MUA believes you used Sylpheed version 0.7.5claws (GTK+ 1.2.9; i586-pc-linux-gnu) to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 11:04:21 PM. JA You can set a timer on the message ticker so it goes away after a JA certain amount of time. Where is this set? I know I can set it to go away after all messages are a certain age, to get it to go away after X amount of time? Could be useful. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) use Perl; \ program \ fulfillment Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi Julian, JBL Perhaps it is accidental - JBL the filter might look for an ! in the x-mailer: field. Or perhaps they are JBL sponsored by MS! If that were the case, then it would filter out e-mails from Becky 2 (X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.08) which it apparently doesn't. I wonder if they filter out messages from real spam tools like WorldCast? (He says checking something.) Later that morning The answer is probably they won't because WorldCast doesn't include an X-mailer header (like a good spam tool wouldn't)! -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.60q - Windows 2000 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
New User: Stripping mailing list blurb
Hello all, I'm just starting out with The Bat! and want to strip some list management blurb from the bottom of emails I am replying to. I already use the modified filter that strips sigs but this does not work in many cases as people are not using -- to mark their sig lines. Here's an example: ---e.g.-- ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ---end of e.g.-- Can anyone help me with a suitable re? (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Self-signed SSL certificates
Hello Ralf, On Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 2:11:11 PM you wrote in 005501c21dd3$b9fa78a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:005501c21dd3$b9fa78a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): Thanks for that quick response. I'll try to get that certificate imported. Haven't had luck with that before, but maybe I can do it by using MSIE. Works perfectly well with The Bat! address book when using internal S/MIME (which I can only recommend as a few days ago it was discovered MY-CryptoAPI S/MIME has some flaws that makes it unusable IMHO). You'll need to put the text between and including -BEGIN CERTIFICATE- ... -END CERTIFICATE- from your cert file (usually *.pem) into a text file. THIS is the public key. 'BEGIN' and 'END' lines _are important_. Name the file whatever you like, if you don't mind make it's extension .pem too. Now you should be able to import this file as certificate w/o any problems into TB!-AB. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Machines take me by surprise with great frequency. - Alan Turing Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: GMT Time Stamp
John [J], On 27-06-2002 13:08, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: J This one may be better, no hard coding:- J You wrote J %SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS J On%SUBPATT=2, at %SUBPATT=3 [GMT%SUBPATT=4] (%OTIMELONG %ODATE where I J live):- John, I know how to change the local time (%otimelong) to display no seconds, but how do I do that with the RegExp time? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 1.60q /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 /os Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Feature removed
The last version of The Bat put a red tick on the @ of a mailbox that had new mail but was not opened. The latest version has had this removed. This feature is very useful and was something I asked for a while ago. It allows me to see that mail has arrived for another user because all email is picked up by which ever account is logged in and then distrubuted to the right mail box by filters. Could we please have this feature back in the product. Best regards, Dave mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi, Gerard wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : In the light of these events, should we ask the developers to make the X-mailer field an option or one that can be changed? Even though I agree that this should be optional, our current findings about this cable service/ISP should not be the reason to hide what we are using with pride. No, we will not bend! Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Newbie: 2nd question
Hello all, Is it possible either to sync the *address book* with a Palm PDA _or_ sync it with MS Outlook? (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Feature removed
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, 1:32:52 PM, Dave Wright wrote: DW The last version of The Bat put a red tick on the @ of a mailbox DW that had new mail but was not opened. The latest version has had DW this removed. I'm using the latest version my red checkmark's still there Deborah Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Clone
Hi, guys I intend to create another e-mail account but I would like to keep the setting exactly the same as another account can it be done in a quick way??? what I mean is the folder tree and filter thanks in advance Best regards, Jason Primary e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] My PGP Public Key at : Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Feature removed
Hey Dave, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 8:32:52 AM. DW The last version of The Bat put a red tick on the @ of a mailbox DW that had new mail but was not opened. Works as you described here... here is a screen cut. http://www.musson.net/tim/pub/tb-example.png -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Printed on 100% recycled electrons. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: New User: Stripping mailing list blurb
Hello Julian, 27. junij 2002, 14:22:07, you wrote: JK Can anyone help me with a suitable re? Here's a QT I use, and it seems to work with your example: =8--- %quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP %- SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(%- -*?\s*?--\s*\n|%- _{40,}\s*\n|%- \n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%- -+\s+.*roups.*~--\|\n_{1,})|%- \n+Get your FREE download|%- \z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=4' =8--- -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 2] The guy holding the biggest sign demanding that the freeway be torn down moved in six years after it was constructed. -- Alfred's Law of NIMBY'ism [Not in my back yard] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Newbie: 2nd question
Hey Julian, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 8:35:26 AM. JK Is it possible either to sync the *address book* with a Palm PDA _or_ JK sync it with MS Outlook? Unfortunately, no. There are some who have offered to code the conduit, but we need the AB file format from RIT, and writing that does not seem to be high on their priority list... g If/When it is available, it will be posted here, and probably added to the FAQ. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Paper clips are the larval stage of coat hangers. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Clone
Dear Jason, Thursday, June 27, 2002, 2:51:12 PM, you wrote: J I intend to create another e-mail account J but I would like to keep the setting exactly the same as J another account J can it be done in a quick way??? J what I mean is the folder tree and filter J thanks in advance Just make new account, and then replace contents of it's folder by first. (TB! should be off ;-) during copying). -- Best regards, Sergey Uvarov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat version :1.60k, Running at NT 5.0, Build 2195 Service Pack 2. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Feature removed
Hello Dave, 27. junij 2002, 14:32:52, you wrote: DW The last version of The Bat put a red tick on the @ of a mailbox that had new mail but was not opened. The latest version has had this removed. Are you sure your message isn't in common folders? The @ here gets it's tickmark just fine... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 2] Negative expectation thwarts realization, and self-congratulation guarantees disaster. (Or, simply put: If you think of it, it won't happen quite that way.) -- Thwartz's Theorem of Low Profile Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Newbie: 2nd question
Hello Tim, on 27/Jun/2002 you wrote: TM Hey Julian, TM My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 TM to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TM on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 8:35:26 AM. JK Is it possible either to sync the *address book* with a Palm PDA _or_ JK sync it with MS Outlook? TM Unfortunately, no. There are some who have offered to code the TM conduit, but we need the AB file format from RIT, and writing that TM does not seem to be high on their priority list... g TM If/When it is available, it will be posted here, and probably added TM to the FAQ. Thanks for the prompt reply! This is sad though as these things are about all that's currently stopping me from getting rid of Outlook for my email. (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Unread messages sorting
Hi! I am wondering why if I have set sort by unread messages and I receive messages they are not sorted by unread. You have to reselect sorting by unread messages to actually sort it or I usually press CTRL-0 to change sort order. Is the sorting only a one time sort and does not sort the newly added messages? In this case I think that the arrow on the column should disappear. -- Best regards, Mitja Perko Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Feature removed
Dear Tim, Your mail boxes are not password protected, mine are. I have had problems with this before. Could you please do me a favour and see if you still get the red tick if the mail box has a password on it. Best regards, Davemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, 27 June 2002, you wrote: Tim Musson Hey Dave, Tim Musson My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Tim Musson to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tim Musson on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 8:32:52 AM. DW The last version of The Bat put a red tick on the @ of a mailbox DW that had new mail but was not opened. Tim Musson Works as you described here... Tim Musson here is a screen cut. Tim Musson http://www.musson.net/tim/pub/tb-example.png Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Palm - TBab sync (was Re: Newbie: 2nd question)
Hey Julian, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 9:17:40 AM. JK This is sad though as these things are about all that's currently JK stopping me from getting rid of Outlook for my email. You can do an export of your Palm AB to vCard, then import it to TBab. It is not a sync though. If you look through the archives you should be able to find my results of trying to sync with vCards, but as I recall, TB handled duplicates with no problems (no import), but Palm DT just created a new entry blindly... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Who is they anyway? Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Feature removed
Hey Dave, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 9:21:48 AM. DW Your mail boxes are not password protected, mine are. I have had DW problems with this before. Could you please do me a favour and see DW if you still get the red tick if the mail box has a password on DW it. Ah, you did not say it was PW protected in your original msg... *Confirming*, if the Account is PW protected, then the check mark is not displayed if it is not expanded. I noticed this too, but only have one PW protected account (out of 14), so it was not a big issue. If you want this back, go to the Bug Reports link at the bottom of this msg, and put in a feature request/bug report (depending on which you want to call itg). RIT is not guaranteed to read this list. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) 5 days a week my body is a temple. The other two, it's an amusement park. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: GMT Time Stamp
Hi Marck, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 11:11:34 +0100 GMT (6/27/02, 15:56 NST), you [MDP] wrote: MDP There's your problem. Follow the Flat version links on the MDP first page, which you will be able to read. What first page are you referring to? I went to your home page and the link there doesn't work for me Cheers, Sudip mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 98 4.10 (Build A ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.4 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] Those that make the rules don't play the game! Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Feature removed
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, 2:35:04 PM, Tim Musson wrote: TM *Confirming*, if the Account is PW protected, then the check mark is TM not displayed if it is not expanded. I noticed this too, but only have TM one PW protected account (out of 14), so it was not a big issue. I figured it was an extra security feature - you can't even tell *if* there's any email there unless you put it the password. Still, I can see how it would get annoying having to check all the time to see if there was any new mail or not. Deborah Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Feature removed
Hey Deborah, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Educational to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 9:55:44 AM. DW I figured it was an extra security feature - you can't even tell DW *if* there's any email there unless you put it the password. Subconsciously g, that is what I thought too. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) A television may insult your intelligence but nothing rubs it in like a computer. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: GMT Time Stamp
Hey Sudip, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 9:46:03 AM. MDP There's your problem. Follow the Flat version links on the MDP first page, which you will be able to read. SP What first page are you referring to? I went to your home page and the SP link there doesn't work for me I would hazard a guess it is the FAQ link at the bottom of each msg from this list... g -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer. -Douglas Adams Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Just spoke to Tech Support at Cogeco. They were already aware of a problem with TB! client, apparently other TB! users have been calling in with the same problem. They downloaded the TB! last night and carried out extensive testing. According to them, they have not found any problem. I revealed the results of Roelof's experiment and they were quite curious about the x-mailer issue. They have asked me to sent them this info for them to look into further. I have indicated I will send them the entire thread discussed on TBUDL! So we'll see what they find. Keep you posted, Ravi -Original Message- From: Markus Gloede [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:34:54 +0200 Subject: Re: Can Not Send Mail Hi, Gerard wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : In the light of these events, should we ask the developers to make the X-mailer field an option or one that can be changed? Even though I agree that this should be optional, our current findings about this cable service/ISP should not be the reason to hide what we are using with pride. No, we will not bend! Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Just spoke to Tech Support at Cogeco. They were already aware of a problem with TB! client, apparently other TB! users have been calling in with the same problem. They downloaded the TB! last night and carried out extensive testing. According to them, they have not found any problem. I revealed the results of Roelof's experiment and they were quite curious about the x-mailer issue. They have asked me to sent them this info for them to look into further. I have indicated I will send them the entire thread discussed on TBUDL! So we'll see what they find. Keep you posted, Ravi -Original Message- From: Markus Gloede [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:34:54 +0200 Subject: Re: Can Not Send Mail Hi, Gerard wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : In the light of these events, should we ask the developers to make the X-mailer field an option or one that can be changed? Even though I agree that this should be optional, our current findings about this cable service/ISP should not be the reason to hide what we are using with pride. No, we will not bend! Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: New User Questions
Hi Marck, Thursday, June 27, 2002 09:04 Thanks for the helpful reply. However, I think there may still be a problem with the FAQ page. I am using IE 6.0.2600.IC under Win 98/SE 4.10.A and I have all the latest Win 98 and IE update patches from Microsoft. Still, the FAQ reports Done, but with errors on page after loading and all that gets displayed is one line at the top and a white background. No links or anything. --Gary ==Original message text=== From: Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gary Lucas on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, June 27, 2002, 4:22:59 AM Subject: New User Questions == Hi Gary, @27 June 2002, 21:40:04 -0500 (03:40 UK time) Gary Lucas in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The FAQ page is full of javascript errors that prevent it from displaying in both Netscape and IE on my machine. The pages work perfectly on IE 5.5 and later, Mozilla and many others. NetScape is buggy and there's nothing I can do about that and I'm trying to code around some of Opera's shortcomings. With those provisos the FAQ works well and includes a link at the front page to a flat version which will work on any browser. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to
Hallo Marck, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:49:49 +0100GMT (27-6-02, 10:49 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: %TO=%TO=List Name [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP This advice cannot be given without issuing the standard health MDP warning! ;-) Why not something like this: %If:%ToAddr=:%To='[EMAIL PROTECTED]':%- I don't know why checking for %To= doesn't work, but the above does. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hallo Gerard, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:12:08 +0200GMT (27-6-02, 13:12 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: G O am not sure if this is what Roelof already did but you could try G the following. What you suggested, was not what I did, but it had the same effect. I sent a message with TB, my mailserver sent it and stored it in an archive. The archived copy was edited and sent again by my server and again and again. That's why the msgid of all messages was the same (except for one, where I altered it for testing purposes). -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi, Ravi Joshi wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I have indicated I will send them the entire thread discussed on TBUDL! So we'll see what they find. Please do not do this or at least anonymize names and addresses or leave them out. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hello Ravi Joshi, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:00:17 -0400 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 11:00:17 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Ravi Joshi wrote: Hi DG, Thank you for the suggestion, I'll give it a try. Unfortunately, I continue to be unable to send mail from TB! from my cogeco.ca account (the same holds true for my wife's account), I can send and receive from myrealbox account. Everything works fine using Becky, OE or Foxmail...so I don't have a clue as to what is up with TB I'll be moving to a different ISP in a few weeks, so I'll see if this behaviour continues then. If I remember correctly you can send via the myrealbox smtp even if from account isnt myrealbox BUT you have to specify logon with password as for mail collection. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re: Can Not Send Mail
Not to worry...I will maintain individual privacy. You have my word on it. Ravi -Original Message- From: Markus Gloede [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:45:57 +0200 Subject: Re: Can Not Send Mail Hi, Ravi Joshi wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I have indicated I will send them the entire thread discussed on TBUDL! So we'll see what they find. Please do not do this or at least anonymize names and addresses or leave them out. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re: Can Not Send Mail
Not to worry...I will maintain individual privacy. You have my word on it. Ravi -Original Message- From: Markus Gloede [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 16:45:57 +0200 Subject: Re: Can Not Send Mail Hi, Ravi Joshi wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I have indicated I will send them the entire thread discussed on TBUDL! So we'll see what they find. Please do not do this or at least anonymize names and addresses or leave them out. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: GMT Time Stamp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sudip, @27 June 2002, 19:31:03 +0545 (14:46 UK time) Sudip Pokhrel in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: MDP There's your problem. Follow the Flat version links on the MDP first page, which you will be able to read. What first page are you referring to? I went to your home page and the link there doesn't work for me Doesn't work is very ambiguous. Nobody should see a blank screen. The FAQ works fine for me on Opera 6.02 as long as it identifies itself as Opera. If you have it set to identify as IE then you'll see nothing because it isn't IE. In fact, only IE itself is capable of using the W3C compliant DOM code embedded in the page for browsing. Other browsers must use a reload technique. Opera works fine for that, but not if you try to pull a fast one! g - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GyaGOeQkq5KdzaARAp66AJ9w2xVz0PiqJRDlFdRMWHDpdCfP8wCgmI4S d4QftBulPBAPWQmYMdF1KxE= =myMh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: New User Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gary, @27 June 2002, 09:26:05 -0500 (15:26 UK time) Gary Lucas in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: However, I think there may still be a problem with the FAQ page. I am using IE 6.0.2600.IC under Win 98/SE 4.10.A and I have all the latest Win 98 and IE update patches from Microsoft. Still, the FAQ reports Done, but with errors on page after loading and all that gets displayed is one line at the top and a white background. No links or anything. Could you be getting a cached version? I use the same version of IE as you do and the page has no errors. Really! Write to me privately if you want to get involved with helping me debug this issue. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GygvOeQkq5KdzaARAjsOAKCu4+GORerwQCwTFoXJaw8likoJWwCcDUZB cxXHs1DXgOGxkcsdcm/9pS8= =nA0z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hello Marck D Pearlstone, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 10:31:02 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, June 27, 2002, 4:31:02 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: See [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. That's definitive for me. This ISP is deliberately rejecting mail written by TB users and for no other reason than that the X-Mailer header says The Bat. That's an outrage! Can we have the email address of someone there to flood with complaints? Mind you, they won't get through! Not without removing the The Bat! X-Mailer header. I assume that as with any bounced mail, the system admin gets a copy of all bounced mail... Do you think forwarding 15000 plus archived messages would do the trick? someone may wake up... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
[SOT] Looking for an SMTP server
Hello, I am looking for an password protected SMTP server which allows me to send mail wherever I am, not depending on who my ISP is for the moment. It should be run by a serious company, I do not want an open relay server but a service I can subscribe to and trust for a long time. Anyone know a company that offers such a service? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail downloading problems
Hi Allie. At 4:39 AM on Thursday, June 27, 2002 you wrote the following about [Mail downloading problems]: ACM [...] Since I knew about the temp file problem ACM (reported on this list), I just excluded the temp file ACM from real time scanning and that stopped the problem. ACM [/...] I think, but I'm not sure, that I had NOD32 set to wait for a user response rather than automating NOD's work when it spots a virus. That would explain it. OTOH, if it starts up again, I'll remember to exclude *the* .tmp file but I was under the impression that TB! numbers it's temp files so the names vary. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60q/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hello Marck D Pearlstone, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:05:06 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, June 27, 2002, 6:05:06 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Hi Daniel, @27 June 2002, 12:18:12 +0200 (11:18 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: MDP That's an outrage! Can we have the email address of someone there to MDP flood with complaints? Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've sent a message there and to the postmaster at the same domain. They accepted the message from me because I use SecureBat! and not The Bat! Seems to mean that the 3 letters Bat arent the trigger... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
ON Thursday, June 27, 2002, 4:39:14 PM, you wrote: RO What you suggested, was not what I did, but it had the same effect. RO I sent a message with TB, my mailserver sent it and stored it in an RO archive. The archived copy was edited and sent again by my server and RO again and again. RO That's why the msgid of all messages was the same (except for one, RO where I altered it for testing purposes). Hi Roelof, We don't all have email servers running ;-) But that's fine. I still find it very strange and hard to believe that I ISP would block on a X-mailer field. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rule a kingdom as though you were cooking a small fish - don't overdo it. - Lao Tzu - Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Looking for an SMTP server
Hej Marcus, --- Marcus Ohlström / Donnerstag, 27.06.2002, 17:00:37 Looking for an SMTP server I am looking for an password protected SMTP server which allows me to send mail wherever I am, not depending on who my ISP is for the moment. It should be run by a serious company, I do not want an open relay server but a service I can subscribe to and trust for a long time. Anyone know a company that offers such a service? I'm using 2 different way's: 1 - I have an free Account at www.web.de. They are quite serious and I never have problems with them. It happens sometimes that I can't connect but that's not so often. 2 - My provider also have an eMail Server and I'm very Happy with his Service. www.w-p-s.de In both cases I Fetch and Send my Mails by POP/SMTP. Hope it's this what you're looking for. -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.60k under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
ON Thursday, June 27, 2002, 2:34:54 PM, you wrote: In the light of these events, should we ask the developers to make the X-mailer field an option or one that can be changed? MG Even though I agree that this should be optional, our current findings MG about this cable service/ISP should not be the reason to hide what we are MG using with pride. No, we will not bend! Hi Markus, I for one already sent a copy of the complaint msg to the ISP :-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= It is a man's obligation to stick his boneration in a woman's separation to ensure the propagation of the younger federation and the next generation. - Eric Cartman, South Park - Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: GMT Time Stamp
Hi Tim, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:59:20 -0400 GMT (6/27/02, 19:44 NST), you [TM] wrote: TM I would hazard a guess it is the FAQ link at the bottom of each msg TM from this list... Already tried that Tim.. it simply redirects me to the Silverstones FAQ page-the one that is not working (for me) Cheers, Sudip mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 98 4.10 (Build A ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.4 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: New User Questions
Hi Marck, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 15:58:53 +0100 GMT (6/27/02, 20:43 NST), you [MDP] wrote: Still, the FAQ reports Done, but with errors on page after loading and all that gets displayed is one line at the top and a white background. No links or anything. MDP Could you be getting a cached version? I use the same version of IE as MDP you do and the page has no errors. Mark, as I described in my earlier thread, I have the same problem. Also confused about the first page with flat links that you refer to i.e. where is it? Cheers, Sudip mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 98 4.10 (Build A ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.4 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] There can't be a crisis today, my schedule is already full Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: [SOT] Looking for an SMTP server
Hello Marcus Ohlström, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 17:00:37 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, June 27, 2002, 10:00:37 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Marcus Ohlström wrote: Hello, I am looking for an password protected SMTP server which allows me to send mail wherever I am, not depending on who my ISP is for the moment. As far as I know myrealbox.com does it. It should be run by a serious company, I do not want an open relay server but a service I can subscribe to and trust for a long time. Anyone know a company that offers such a service? -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Palm - TBab sync (was Re: Newbie: 2nd question)
Hello Tim, on 27/Jun/2002 you wrote: TM Hey Julian, TM My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 TM to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TM on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 9:17:40 AM. JK This is sad though as these things are about all that's currently JK stopping me from getting rid of Outlook for my email. TM You can do an export of your Palm AB to vCard, then import it to TBab. TM It is not a sync though. If you look through the archives you should TM be able to find my results of trying to sync with vCards, but as I TM recall, TB handled duplicates with no problems (no import), but Palm TM DT just created a new entry blindly... Hmm, thanks for the answer. However, I'd prefer not to step backwards really. However, perhaps this leans towards a solution where I can synchronise the TB address book with the Outlook address book periodically? I will need to continue using Outlook for Calendar and tasks anyway for the moment as the Palm desktop simply doesn't cut it for me. (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: [SOT] Looking for an SMTP server
Hi, Marcus Ohlström wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I am looking for an password protected SMTP server which allows me to send mail wherever I am, not depending on who my ISP is for the moment. It should be run by a serious company, I do not want an open relay server but a service I can subscribe to and trust for a long time. Anyone know a company that offers such a service? I'm also looking for something along these lines. To clarify Marcus's request (as I understood it): he is looking for a service that allows relaying (with different From addresses). GMX, web.de and, AFAIK, fastmail only accept mails for relaying when they contain one of their From addresses. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: [SOT] Looking for an SMTP server
Hey tracer, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m) Personal to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 11:20:15 AM. I am looking for an password protected SMTP server which allows me to send mail wherever I am, not depending on who my ISP is for the moment. t As far as I know myrealbox.com does it. I do just that with myrealbox - one problem you may find... I had problems with ISP's like NetZero, they block all port 25 traffic. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) 5 days a week my body is a temple. The other two, it's an amusement park. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: GMT Time Stamp
Hi Marck, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 15:51:47 +0100 GMT (6/27/02, 20:36 NST), you [MDP] wrote: MDP The FAQ works fine for me on Opera 6.02 as long as it identifies MDP itself as Opera. If you have it set to identify as IE then you'll see MDP nothing because it isn't IE. Yeah I had the Browser Identification set as IE, I changed it to Opera, nevertheless it's still not working (sigh) Cheers, Sudip mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 98 4.10 (Build A ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.4 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] The trouble with political jokes is they get elected Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: New User Questions
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, Tim Musson wrote... JA You can set a timer on the message ticker so it goes away after a JA certain amount of time. Where is this set? I know I can set it to go away after all messages are a certain age, to get it to go away after X amount of time? Could be useful. Well... more like a certain age limit on the emails itself. If you right click the mail ticker next time it is up, go to Messages then Age Limits. Set a value. After a certain period of time, the age of the message is met, and it is removed from the ticker. Which, in theory, if it's the last message, should hide the ticker again. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi, Just a thought:- Could they have excess filtering for spam/virus i.e. Bat gets picked up as a .bat file and hence content is rejected. No sig Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: New User Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sudip, @27 June 2002, 21:02:35 +0545 (16:17 UK time) Sudip Pokhrel in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone: the FAQ reports Done, but with errors on page after loading and all that gets displayed is one line at the top and a white background. No links or anything. MDP Could you be getting a cached version? I use the same version of MDP IE as you do and the page has no errors. Mark, as I described in my earlier thread, I have the same problem. I think yours is a different problem. Like I said earlier, turn off Identify as IE and make it Identify as Opera before viewing. Also confused about the first page with flat links that you refer to i.e. where is it? In the middle of the page you say is blank. You can get directly to the flat version on http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/tbfaq_flat.html - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9GzXDOeQkq5KdzaARAlBFAKCwagoKT+L5P1qehXJdyEI5MoCiogCfRuZR p7WeaKva0Ziy/QPFVDKNk3M= =+P9i -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... Could they have excess filtering for spam/virus i.e. Bat gets picked up as a .bat file and hence content is rejected. An interesting idea I guess. Would be an unusual method of filtering to get viruses, unless they are explicitly blocking .bat files. Although it'd be a really bad filter for it to do that. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: [SOT] Looking for an SMTP server
On 6/27/02 at 11:39 AM Tim Musson wrote: Hey tracer, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m) Personal to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 11:20:15 AM. I am looking for an password protected SMTP server which allows me to send mail wherever I am, not depending on who my ISP is for the moment. t As far as I know myrealbox.com does it. I do just that with myrealbox - one problem you may find... I had problems with ISP's like NetZero, they block all port 25 traffic. = Unless the policy has changed in the past year, earthlink also blocks all port 25 traffic, you have to use the [unreliable] Earthlink SMTP servers. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hello Markus, 27. junij 2002, 16:45:57, you wrote: MG Please do not do this or at least anonymize names and addresses or leave MG them out. What for? Aren't the archives public anyway? -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 2] One out of four people is mentally ill. Check three friends; If they're O.K. it must be you. -- Psychiatrist's At Home Test Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, Jernej Simoni wrote... MG Please do not do this or at least anonymize names and addresses or leave MG them out. What for? Aren't the archives public anyway? Names are, emails aren't. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: [SOT] Looking for an SMTP server
Hello Marcus, Thursday, June 27, 2002, 4:00:37 PM, you wrote: Marcus Ohlström Hello, Marcus Ohlström I am looking for an password protected SMTP server which allows me to Marcus Ohlström send mail wherever I am, not depending on who my ISP is for the moment. Marcus Ohlström It should be run by a serious company, I do not want an open relay Marcus Ohlström server but a service I can subscribe to and trust for a long time. Marcus Ohlström Anyone know a company that offers such a service? Does your ISP offer autheticated SMTP or pop3 before smtp authentication ? If that is the case then it won't matter which service you connect with. -- Best regards, jon Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: New User: Stripping mailing list blurb
Hello Jernej, on 27/Jun/2002 you wrote: JS Hello Julian, JS 27. junij 2002, 14:22:07, you wrote: JK Can anyone help me with a suitable re? JS Here's a QT I use, and it seems to work with your example: Doh!! I worked out what was wrong. I was including the QT *as well as* the %Quotes macro rather than replacing it! People might also like to note that I have changed the macro slightly to remove extra blank lines at the end of the email by adding (^\n*) before the appropriate option (_{40,}\s*\n) like so (note line 5): - %QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?is)%- ((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%- (--+\s+.*roups.*~--\\n.*\n--+~-\\n\n)?%- (.*?)(^(- -*?\s*?--\s*\n|%- (^\n*)_{40,}\s*\n|%- -{40,}\s*\n|%- \n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%- --+\s+.*roups.*~--\)|%- \n\nYour use of|%- \n+Get your FREE download|%- \nNote that the email address of the sender has been changed|%- \n---\nOutgoing mail is certified Virus Free.|%- \z)%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%text%SUBPATT=5' - Additionally, I've changed the reply template (note the %- on the end of the first QInclude) to remove another unwanted blank line: - %To=%- %To=%OFROMNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %CC=%- %- Hello %OFromFName, on %ODate=d/mmm/ you wrote: %QInclude=StripSigs%- %Cursor -- %QInclude=PersSigLong - Hope this may help other newbies too! (Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 ) -- Julian Knight, /\ |Home Page: http://www.knightnet.org.uk/ | |Location : Sheffield, South Yorkshire, United Kingdom. | |Occupation: Security, Directory, Messaging, Network PC Consultant | \/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: GMT Time Stamp
Hello Peter, Thursday, June 27, 2002 at 14:29 GMT +0200, was when inspiration required Peter Fjelsten [PF] to write: PF John, I know how to change the local time (%otimelong) to display no PF seconds, but how do I do that with the RegExp time? A small change to the version Jon posted will do the trick: You wrote %- %SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\:[\d]{0,2}\s*?(.*))%- %REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%- on %SUBPATT=2, at %SUBPATT=3 [GMT%SUBPATT=4] (%OTIMELONG %ODATE %- where I live):- The above results in: You wrote on Thu, 27 Jun 2002, at 14:29 [GMT +0200] (5:29:49 AM June 27, 2002 where I live):- -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Is it OK to use the AM radio after noon? Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: [SOT] Looking for an SMTP server
On Thursday, June 27, 2002, 17:41, Markus Gloede wrote: I am looking for an password protected SMTP server which allows me to send mail wherever I am, not depending on who my ISP is for the moment. To clarify Marcus's request (as I understood it): he is looking for a service that allows relaying (with different From addresses). Thank you, that's what I meant. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/