Re[3]: Beta version features
Hello David, Sunday, August 24, 2003, 5:55:54 PM, you wrote: DA It is not a matter of looking at Stefan's note - not everyone will DA have seem it if they come in on beta3 for example, but sherr lack of DA thought for the user. I could not conceive writing a program which DA would DELETE a users mailboxes on IMAP without at least a warning. The warning has been shown - on the TBBETA. Reading (at least) of TBBETA is a must for those who use TB! Betas. No data is deleted during upgrade to v2 - the files are left untouched, they just cannot be used by version 2. Betas are not supposed to be used by anyone who is not cautious enough to read about major changes. -- Cheers! Stefan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple Addresbook entries when added automatically
Hello Dan, On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PMFJI but this looks very useful. What do you enter into the move messages to folder box? Sent Mail. Thanks ;-) -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beta version features
Stefan Tanurkov on Monday, August 25, 2003, 12:00:01 AM, you scribed: Betas are not supposed to be used by anyone who is not cautious enough to read about major changes. Well... I read the beta list and was well aware that by using the 1.63 betas that some of the file formats changed... which I thought would be ok as eventually 1.63 would become a non beta. Except its not, its become beta of version 2. Which AFAIK I'll have to pay for (waiting for the upgrade policy). I've just tried using the 1.62 release, and it only shows the basic folders (inbox, outbox etc). Be careful with the betas! -- Duncan Strand ICQ: 16966914 www.zebs.org.uk Currently listening to: nowt Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord: 25: No matter how well it would perform, I will never construct any sort of machinery which is completely indestructible except for one small and virtually inaccessible vulnerable spot. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beta version features
Hello David, Shows a lack of professionalism - or lack of concern for the users. I TOTALLY DISAGREE! I think you speak without knowledge. I'm glad to see Stefan responded. I responded because I wanted to insure proper IMAP upgrade to V2 for a member of TBUDL. Unfortunately my response was taken incorrectly. In the future I will direct all TBUDL members to TBBETA before discussing detail on betas. I apologize to Stefan for this misunderstanding. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unsubscribing for a few weeks
In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mary Bull wrote: M Please enjoy! :-) Thanks, I shall. [snip] A lot of fuzz about a couple of weeks off (if I may say so). Arjan (silly subjects 're us) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unsubscribing for a few weeks
Hello Arjan, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M Please enjoy! :-) Thanks, I shall. [snip] A lot of fuzz about a couple of weeks off (if I may say so). Ah, depends how you look at it. Mary is a stalwart of TB in all its forms and forums! She is, at her slightly advanced age (is that ok to say that Mary?) making a trip across the pond to explore, England Ireland and Scotland and also to sit through getting on for 26 hours of Wagner's Ring Cycle here in Glasgow. I know that because she's also a very proficient amateur horn player and we got talking when she heard I played in the orchestra of Scottish Opera so she booked tickets and flights and I'm very much looking forward to meeting her in the flesh. Lots of chat on this in TBOT which is where most of this is being talked about but thought I just had to come tongue in cheek to Mary's defence (if that's not too strong a wording) here, even though it's slightly off topic :-) Sorry mods. -- Best regards, Richard | Using The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 SpamPal | Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 4 | and using the best browser: Opera7 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unsubscribing for a few weeks
Sunday, August 24, 2003, Mary Bull wrote: I think it's a no-no to post just thanks to tbudl Well... There's always TBOT 8-) Have a nice vacation. -- Urban Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message hidden but HTML shows
I received a strange message yesterday which just showed an HTML page from our website, but shows as an HTML display with the IE icon in the righthand column. When I hit F9 and saw the raw code, there was a message there (from someone I've had correspondence with pointing out that something I'd said was in the website was not there!) If I right click and click on RFC-822 headers I then see the headers and message, and if I then click on that menu item again, the headers disappear but the message does continue to show as it should do. Either way, if I hit reply, it shows up as quoted text in the reply. How can I be sure that when I receive an html attachment to an email that I can see the message it is attached to? I don't really want to show headers and then hide headers on every message that seems to be just html. The sending mailer is Outlook. I'm a 19-day user of The Bat, v.1,62r, eventually persuaded to move from Pegasus by a few problems with that and the continuing exhortations of Bill Blinn. Just a week before I pay up. But I already know a little of why Bill is such an enthusiast. -- Gordon Woolf The Worsley Press Hastings, Victoria, Australia www.worsleypress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Book: Success in Store - How to Start or Buy a Retail Business, Enjoy Running It and Make Money Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message hidden but HTML shows
On Monday, August 25, 2003, 1:12:55 PM, I wrote: I received a strange message yesterday which just showed an HTML page from our website, but shows as an HTML display with the IE icon in the righthand column. And now I admit to not looking at what is in front of me. There's the two tabs at the bottom, it was showing on 2, and the message was on 1. I'll get there. And I still send thanks to the list. If you hadn't been there, I wouldn't have worked out how to ask the question, and just asking led to the answer. -- Gordon Woolf The Worsley Press Hastings, Victoria, Australia www.worsleypress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Book: Success in Store - How to Start or Buy a Retail Business, Enjoy Running It and Make Money Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Moving The Bat to another computer with same OS
Can I just backup The Bat on 1st computer. Install TB on 2nd computer and restore it from backup file of 1st computer? Or is there another preferred method to move TB to new computer? -- Craig Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v 1.62r Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 Text/HTML/PHP Editor - NoteTab Pro v 4.95 Text Organizer - Personal Knowbase v 2.1 FreeBSD - Apache - MySQL - PHP Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: firewall software and TB, was Re: blah!
Hi Roelof Sunday, August 24, 2003, 5:49:34 PM, you wrote: RO Yep, until the next time ZA's config got corrupted. Happened quite a RO few times for me. Most of the time creating problems with other RO programs than TB, since TB only connects local on my system. (Local RO mailserver.) I see. I'll give it a shot then. Thanks for the tip Cheers, -Vishal Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving The Bat to another computer with same OS
Craig Westerman, [CW] wrote: CW Can I just backup The Bat on 1st computer. Install TB on 2nd CW computer and restore it from backup file of 1st computer? CW Or is there another preferred method to move TB to new computer? This is the easiest method if it works. Unfortunately, for inexplicable reasons, it hasn't worked out for some. I've been using the same installation of TB! since I registered in 1999 across multiple machines and multiple OS installations. TB!'s backup and restore routing worked for me without problems on 3 of those occasions (no failures when I used it). Just be sure not to delete the original installation unless you have a restored installation on your new machine. If this routine doesn't work, then you could do it the manual way. This would involve copying the installation to the new machine, exporting the registry key for TB!, restoring the key to the new system and making changes as needed to the path related key entry values. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Hi all! Just got around to joining the list. I've been using TB for a few days now and feel pretty comfortable with it. However there are some areas MIA in the help file and have been unable to find relevant information in the FAQs and so forth. I am wanting to choose my own startup defaults for the dispatcher read|recieve|delete|open flags. Is there any way to do that? Secondly, is it possible to associate a folder to a recipient email address? It would be useful for lists and other sorted email folders. EG: ctl-N when TBUDL folder is selected would default to addressing the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without having to add to, select from the address book. Pixie -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
glyphs.bmp
Ref: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/glyphs.html Is this tutorial for a older version of TB!? I don't have a glyph.bmp file in any of the TB! directories. -- Craig Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v 1.62r Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 Text/HTML/PHP Editor - NoteTab Pro v 4.95 Text Organizer - Personal Knowbase v 2.1 FreeBSD - Apache - MySQL - PHP Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Hello PIXIE, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:44:27 -0400 GMT (25/08/2003, 11:44 +0700 GMT), PIXIE wrote: Hi all! Just got around to joining the list. Welcome. :-) I am wanting to choose my own startup defaults for the dispatcher read|recieve|delete|open flags. Is there any way to do that? No, there isn't. The defaults are hard-coded. Secondly, is it possible to associate a folder to a recipient email address? It would be useful for lists and other sorted email folders. EG: ctl-N when TBUDL folder is selected would default to addressing the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without having to add to, select from the address book. Yes, that's possible. Check out Folder / Properties / Template. You can add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to that template and it will do exactly what you require. I love folder templates. Every time you are in the TBUDL folder and create a message, it will be sent to TBUDL. Sometimes you are unaware of which folder you are in, so the message that you wanted to send your your brother or your lover will reach the list. You say it won't happen to you, but believe me, we have had a lot of fun with this. Unfortunately, people have now wisened up and don't use folder templates any more. AB templates are much safer. I create a new message, type TBU in the TO field, and the address will be autocompleted to TBUDL. That's why I have not (yet?) sent any private communication to this list. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My goal is to be a meterologist. But since I possess no training in meteorology, I suppose I should try stock brokerage. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs.bmp
Hi Craig: CW Ref: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/glyphs.html CW Is this tutorial for a older version of TB!? I don't have a glyph.bmp file in CW any of the TB! directories. I believe if you don't drop a glyph.bmp file in the TB! directories, TB! will use the default icons. Here is an URL with dozens of glyph files: http://batworld.de/glyphs/glyphs1/index.html - Ricardo Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message hidden but HTML shows
Hallo Gordon, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:15:28 +1000GMT (25-8-03, 6:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: I received a strange message yesterday which just showed an HTML page from our website, but shows as an HTML display with the IE icon in the righthand column. GW And now I admit to not looking at what is in front of me. There's the GW two tabs at the bottom, it was showing on 2, and the message was on GW 1. TB can display the non-html part as preference, that's something you can configure via the menu: Options - Preferences - 'General' tab - Uncheck 'Display html part of messages automatically' When done so, you can still view the html part by clicking the the html-tab. It's also possible to view the html part with your browser, so you can view pictures that weren't attached to the message, you do this by opening the html attachment that goes with the message. BTW You started your original question as an answer to another thread. That's not the best thing to do for the following reason. The Bat is able to thread messages properly, in order to see what I mean, just select the folder where you're storing the messages from this list. Go to the menu: view - view threads by - references. Now you'll see that all messages are lined up after the message to which they're first, second (or whatever) level replies to. You started what's essentially a new thread by replying to another message. That means it shows up as listed in another thread. Since people sometimes skip messages in threads they don't consider interesting (for lack of time). They might skip your message too, since they're not aware of the newly started thread. So next time you'd do yourself a favor by sending a new message in stead of a reply, because you're reaching a larger audience and one of those might have the answer you've been waiting for. This is not not meant to criticize you, but only to help you appreciate the options TB offers and to be able to get more effect out of your efforts. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Hallo Thomas, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:16:27 +0700GMT (25-8-03, 7:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TF Unfortunately, people have now wisened up and don't use folder TF templates any more. That's not quite true. I still use folder templates, even though they don't insert to-addresses automatically to new messages. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Monday, August 25, 2003, 1:16:27 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Welcome. :-) Thanks! TF No, there isn't. The defaults are hard-coded. Bummer. Perhaps this will make its' way into version 2.x? Seems IMAP related and I read that the IMAP code is getting some due consideration. The hot-keys aren't so bad. All in all I'll probably find other features as I go that will alter how I am using TB now anyhow. TF Yes, that's possible. Check out Folder / Properties / Template... Great! I really haven't examined this area much so I appreciate the jump-start you gave me. As you pointed out though, perhaps I should be looking at AB templates instead. I am still finding myself loosing my way though the various menus and options. Took me a while to finally find the ticker again after I hid it. :-) BTW: which macro is generally used in a list for xxx wrote reply template? I popped in %TONAME but want to double check. -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Hallo PIXIE, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:05:46 -0400GMT (25-8-03, 10:05 +0200, where I live), you wrote: P BTW: which macro is generally used in a list for xxx wrote reply P template? I popped in %TONAME but want to double check. %OFromName On some lists it's frowned upon to put names in the T0-header, so in those cases %ToName won't suffice. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Moving The Bat to another computer with same OS
Monday, August 25, 2003, 12:44:54 AM, Allie Martin wrote: AM If this routine doesn't work, then you could do it the manual way. This Hi, the ability to 'manually install' TB is something I was drawn to. I have a common partition that I have TB reside on and 3 different versions of windows swap in/out of C: all sharing the common TB install. Seems to work without a hitch although there was a slight amount of registry editing needed. Mind you I did install it once and pluck out the RIT registry chain before I removed that partition and re-imaged it. However I don't think I really had to since TB simply created the missing reg entries (defaults of course) in the other OS when I ran the client. Seems much of the configuration information resides in the TB home directory so reconfiguring was quite minimal to have each OS-TB combination work the same. With regard to the backup feature, it has worked perfectly for me during the re-partitioning, OS swapping and so forth that I was doing seeing how TB will work not really being installed on any of the 3 windows partitions that I can boot. Also, unlike some programs you need not worry if your account(s) don't show up as expected. Create new account - pointing to the directory where the files are.. works great. I SO THRILLED about how everything is so un-bound from windows and all the nasty underpinnings that make migration from-to another computer, backups, restore, etc so painless with TB. Craig, my two cents are to go with your gut feeling and use the (backup) TBK file. Works well. And as Allie said, manually moving it is no hassle. Pixie -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Monday, August 25, 2003, 4:55:48 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: RO %OFromName Gotcha! Thanks! RO On some lists it's frowned upon to put names in the T0-header, so in RO those cases %ToName won't suffice. I'm not real knowledgeable about e-mail headers.. So you mean to say that what I put in the template is added to the message header? I was thinking the templates are basically cosmetic. I don't recall what was in there but my name was inserted in the message so I just tried a few until I actually saw Thomas Fernandez show up.. doh! Pixie -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Monday, August 25, 2003, 1:16:27 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF can add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to that template and it will do Correction, add %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- at least on this old 1.62r version -I- am running.. heh heh. How do you like the beta 2.x? -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Blank mails
Hi Bat! Fans, Queer problem. Some (rare) e-mails received are completely blank except for the header. How ever if I click on the Reply arrow, I can then read the mail. Any clues? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 If at first you don't succeed-- Wait! Did you read the manual? Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
S/MIME vs PGP
My guess is that PGP is the favorite amongst most here yet I wanted to see if I can get an idea which I should explore first. A long time ago with IE like 2.0 or 3.0 I bought a verisign S/MIME key to fiddle with. MS cryptoAPI was a PITA and eventually I broke everything and blew the whole venture off.. Never have used PGP for any length of time although I have always had a great interest in privacy and data security and keeping the black choppers away. I've so far generated a few key pair and tossed some mail back and forth with a couple account to get the hang of it.. I'd like to stick with the internal implementations of either unless there is some flaw with that thinking.. Pixie -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: TB! v2 price anyone? Help deciding on a version and so forth
I read this from the website: QUOTE ON Important Note: Ritlabs informs all the customers that the planned release date for The Bat! V.2.** is September 1, 2003. Within two months from the release date, registered users of The Bat! v1.** are eligible to buy The Bat! V.2.** with 50% discount from the current price of V.2.**, regardless of the type and the number of licences of The Bat! v1.** bought before. We will publish an additional information on our site at September 1, 2003. QUOTE OFF I am wondering if someone can divulge the price for version 2? ..additionally Does anyone know what the upgrade to Secure Bat! is? What difference is there between Business, Regular? Is the whole lineup covered in V2? (reg/bus/secure/auth) or is all versions consolidated into one V2? I have not yet registered, but figure I'll be doing so but I have yet to hear back from RIT in response to my info request. It sounds as if I were to purchase now I'd simply need to cough up 50% of whatever v2 is going to cost if I want to upgrade.. Figures I'd decide to try out the program during a transition. Better yet if someone there is available for responding to info requests then things might be more clear. I haven't figured out which version of 1.x I want to get, now I have to consider this. AWK! Pixie -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filtering read messages to individual folders
tbudl, After I've read a set of messages, I'd like to be able to filter them to their own folders for posterity. All the messages have their own Kludges tag, thanks to POPFile, that I can filter on. I'd like it to work this way: X-Text-Classification: mvst move to folderSwim Team X-Text-Classification: tennismove to folderTennis etc. I'm certain TB!'s filtering can do this and have played around some with varying results. One of which was to send my entire Inbox folder into never-never land - still don't know where those e-mail went! :) I would typically want to manually run these filters rather than do so automatically. Help on setting the filters up would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME vs PGP
Pixie, [P] wrote: P I'd like to stick with the internal implementations of either unless P there is some flaw with that thinking.. From the S/MIME perspective, there seems to be a problem with full cross compatibility with the MS CryptoAPI system and the internal one. Signatures generated using one system, verify as bad when checking the signature using the other. I personally use PGP and prefer it since I don't have the above compatibility issue to worry about. I generate my own keys and don't need the services of a certificate authority. Using the internal PGP implementation would amount to using a v2 of PGP. As a result, you'll not be able to import and handle DH/DSS key types. Nowadays, most PGP users use that type of PGP key. So unless you and those you use PGP with are using only RSA type keys then, I'd advise not to use the internal version. I suggest using GnuPG or PGPv6.5.8ckt. For a crash course on how to get up and going, take a look at this page: http://www.landscreek.net/gpg_pgp_tb.html -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message Count
Hi there, is there a way to count all messages in the message bases and not just one folder? I have tons of common folders and would like to know the total number of messages. TIA -- Christian The Bat! v2.0 Beta/4 on Windows XP 5 .1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Hallo PIXIE, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:13:46 -0400GMT (25-8-03, 11:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: P I'm not real knowledgeable about e-mail headers.. So you mean to say P that what I put in the template is added to the message header? No. P I was thinking the templates are basically cosmetic. Well, some are and some aren't. ;-) Some macros change the headers and some don't. %To=[EMAIL PROTECTED] adds an extra address to the To-header, while %ToAddr inserts the first address from the To-header into the message while keeping the message header unchanged. For a good description what the different macros do, look at the help for 'Full alphabetic list of macros' -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Price of TheBat 2
Hi there, a friend of mine wants to know if it would be cheaper to buy TheBat 1.x before September,1st and then buy an update to version 2. Do you think this way is cheaper or is it better to immediately buy version 2? Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering read messages to individual folders
Hallo Dave, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:05:32 -0400GMT (25-8-03, 14:05 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DK I'd like it to work this way: DK X-Text-Classification: mvst move to folderSwim Team We'll keep this example. Go to the sorting office (Account - Sorting office) Create a new incoming filter Name the filter 'Swim team' (meaningful names are the best) String: 'X-Text-Classification: mvst' Location: 'Kludges' Presence: 'Yes' Move message to: 'Swim team' Make sure that 'Active' is checked and 'Manual only' is not, both are the defaults. As easy as that, can all be done from the first tab of the filter. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank mails
On Monday, August 25, 2003, 6:23:28 AM, John Phillips wrote: JP Some (rare) e-mails received are completely blank except for the JP header. JP How ever if I click on the Reply arrow, I can then read the mail. JP Any clues? Are you, like another poster this morning, missing the tab at the bottom of the screen which allows you to view html? Or are the messages maybe formatted in html using white text on a white background? Those are the first things that come to mind. -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank mails
Hallo John, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:23:28 +1000GMT (25-8-03, 12:23 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JP Some (rare) e-mails received are completely blank except for the JP header. JP How ever if I click on the Reply arrow, I can then read the mail. Might be that they're html only. If not, can you read them when you look for the source (Press F9)? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Linebreaks on Yahoo
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, 5:35:05 AM, Alexander wrote: 22-Aug-2003 16:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Confirmed! b1 and b2 didn't do this, but b3 does. Now, the only problem that remains is that Günter is using 1.62r... ;-) I have now had it confirmed that nobody else but myself on the list sees the double-spacing. Nor do I when I look at the copy of my mail, so in other words it only appears in the Yahoo list digest... Curious and curiouser... Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.62r Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank mails
Hello John, Monday, August 25, 2003, 6:23:28 AM, you wrote: JP Hi Bat! Fans, JP Queer problem. JP Some (rare) e-mails received are completely blank except for the JP header. JP How ever if I click on the Reply arrow, I can then read the mail. JP Any clues? I'm experiencing the same thing. It only happens with the mails sent from one person, and I dismissed it as a problme from that end, but it looks like it may not be. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Range of messages visible in Message List
For some reason, I can only see old messages back to a certain date in all folders, even though TB is set to display all messages in the message list. Any suggestions as to which setting is responsible for that? I've looked but can't find anything except the Display item in the View menu. Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.62r Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering read messages to individual folders
Monday, August 25, 2003, 8:28:38 AM, Roelof wrote: R On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:05:32 -0400GMT (25-8-03, 14:05 +0200, R where I live), you wrote: DK I'd like it to work this way: X-Text-Classification: mvst DK move to folderSwim Team R Go to the sorting office (Account - Sorting office) R Create a new incoming filter R Name the filter 'Swim team' (meaningful names are the best) R String: 'X-Text-Classification: mvst' R Location: 'Kludges' R Presence: 'Yes' R Move message to: 'Swim team' R Make sure that 'Active' is checked and 'Manual only' is R not, both are the defaults. R As easy as that, can all be done from the first tab of the R filter. This creates an incoming filter, as you state. What I'm looking for are manual filters that I can run after I've _read_ a message(s) and then press CTRL-ALT-M (for example) and have all filters associated with CTR-ALT-M fire and move the messages to the appropriate folder. Thanks for your help! -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Price of TheBat 2
B-stok/PL, Monday, August 25, 2003 Hello J., On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, at 14:24:38 (which was 14:24 where I live) in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: JS a friend of mine wants to know if it would be cheaper to buy JS TheBat 1.x before September,1st and then buy an update to version JS 2. Do you think this way is cheaper or is it better to immediately JS buy version 2? Even if the price of v2 will be higher then v1 there is a slight possibility that this difference will be bigger then the eventual upgrade cost, thus IMO he/she should wait until 1st Sep to buy v2. -- Michal Kosinski 0xA0448618 TB! 2.0 Beta/4 (E52B0E2E) | Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering read messages to individual folders
On Monday, August 25, 2003, 8:39:38 AM, Dave Kennedy wrote: DK This creates an incoming filter, as you state. What I'm looking for DK are manual filters that I can run after I've _read_ a message(s) and DK then press CTRL-ALT-M (for example) and have all filters associated DK with CTR-ALT-M fire and move the messages to the appropriate folder. On the first tab of the Sorting Office screen, down near the bottom, are two checkboxes - the first for Active, the second for Manual Only. Check Manual Only. The filter will only work when you run it manually. If you're only using this filter on messages you've read, put it in the Read messages group of filters, not the Incoming mail group. (I don't know if this will actually make any difference to a manual-only filter, but it will make it easier to find anyway.) The next step is to to to the fourth tab in the Sorting Office - the Options tab, check off the box which says Execute action of this rule by pressing Hot Key:, and then inserting the Hot Key (Ctrl-Alt-M) you want to use. -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering read messages to individual folders
Hallo Dave, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:39:38 -0400GMT (25-8-03, 14:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DK This creates an incoming filter, as you state. What I'm looking DK for are manual filters that I can run after I've _read_ a DK message Well, you can create a read filter, that automatically gets triggered after the message gets the status 'read' (as opposed to 'unread') You can also create a filter set it to manual and at the 'Options' tab associate it with a hotkey (combination) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Price of TheBat 2
JS a friend of mine wants to know if it would be cheaper to buy JS TheBat 1.x before September,1st and then buy an update to version JS 2. Do you think this way is cheaper or is it better to immediately JS buy version 2? It would be cheaper to buy v2.xx for people recently bought v1.xx? There are some users who said me why they should register (and pay for) v1.xx today if they shall pay again for v2.xx next week. IMHO, it is not the same to use The Bat! since 1.49 (my case) than 1.62r registered yesterday. And more important to me what happens with SecureBat! users? Do I need to re-register? (I bought SecureBat 1.62s two months ago) -- Chema Berian (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Moderator, Spanish The Bat! User Discussion List (GDUTB) More info Here: http://www.gdutb.org Using SecureBat 1.62s on Windows XP Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Filtering read messages to individual folders
Hi Dave, On Monday, August 25, 2003 at 1:39 PM, Dave wrote: This creates an incoming filter, as you state. What I'm looking for are manual filters that I can run after I've _read_ a message(s) and then press CTRL-ALT-M (for example) and have all filters associated with CTR-ALT-M fire and move the messages to the appropriate folder. Put the filter as Roelof outlined in the Read Messages section of the Filters, select Manual instead of Active and on the Options tab, assign it a hot key. That should be all you need. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: S/MIME vs PGP
On Monday, August 25, 2003, Allie Martin wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: AM I personally use PGP and prefer it since I don't have the above AM compatibility issue to worry about. Allie, It surprises me a bit that you are using PGP, because I see no type of PGP signature or hash indication in your message, yet TB! shows a signature icon in the upper right corner of the preview pane or message window. And the icon is operable; when I click it, I get a verification of your signature. *Where* is the OpenPGP signature that TB! is verifying?? -- JN Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
stupid Q, But...
Hi all, I've recently (briefly) tried v2b4 of TB! and find very little difference between that and my 1.62r version. Admittedly I am probably missing something and risk being flamed, but given that I would have to buy v2 (albeit at 50%) to upgrade, what are the most important benefits of v2 over v1.62r? Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Filtering read messages to individual folders
Monday, August 25, 2003, 8:50:48 AM, Terry wrote: T Put the filter as Roelof outlined in the Read Messages T section of the Filters, select Manual instead of Active and on T the Options tab, assign it a hot key. That should be all you T need. Is it OK to assign more than one filter to the same hot key? -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: stupid Q, But...
Hello all, Monday, August 25, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've recently (briefly) tried v2b4 of TB! and find very little difference between that and my 1.62r version. Admittedly I am probably missing something and risk being flamed, but given that I would have to buy v2 (albeit at 50%) to upgrade, what are the most important benefits of v2 over v1.62r? V2.0 has more than 70% of new source code, there are really many of improvements, only some of them are listed bellow. AFAIK final version will have fully implemented Unicode, bigger GUI changes and new filtering system will be in one of next 2.x version, upgrade to V2 is a good choice :-) [!] Fully reworked true IMAP support [!] Completely rewritten preview pane with more sensible options [!] PGP/MIME support added, so it is now possible to send PGP signed/encrypted files without hassle [!] Built-in support for PGP v6-8 [!] Universal interface for handling signed/encrypted messages - no matter which system (PGP or S/MIME) is used [*] Completely rewritten template subsystem with possibility to add macros from plug-ins. [*] New Preferences dialogue [*] Windows editor: sticky setting, spell checking, search/replace [+] Very basic HTML editor [+] Possibility to add user-defined headers to the preview pane header or messages [+] More access options for accounts with user rights. [+] AntiSpam plug-in interface [+] Mark as Junk/not Junk commands in the Specials menu [+] Folder Maintenance Centre [+] Scheduller [+] Specials|Remind later menu for setting message reminders [+] Smart Wrap Quoted text option in the editor preferences [+] Odd/Even quotation are now supported in Plain Text Viewer/Editor [+] Check Spelling before Send/Queue option in the message editor and many of new macros, options etc, it is major upgrade! :-) -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Filtering read messages to individual folders
Hi Dave, On Monday, August 25, 2003 at 2:19 PM, Dave wrote: Is it OK to assign more than one filter to the same hot key? There's the catch. To my knowledge, you can only have one filter per hot key. I hope someone tells me I am wrong. What I have done in the past to get around this is to: Assign a hot-key to the Re-filter messages option in the Folder menu. When that pops up, you can select the filters you want to run by group. Select Read and manual only and it should work. The only caveat is that you don't have any other Read filters that do things you might not want. For example, I have a Read filter that saves the highlighted message as text. It's a manual only filter and I wouldn't want that to run and so this solution wouldn't work for me on one particular account. It would be great as a work-around if there was some way to double-up on filters - for example, move a set of messages to one folder and, as they enter that folder, have a set of filters that act on the messages and filter them further. I don't know if that is possible or not. I've experimented some but have never been able to get it to work. Hopefully, someone will tell me there's a real easy way of doing this that I have missed. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE: The Bat! 2.0 Beta test and reviewing
Gentlemen... With out combined 33+ years in the industry, Beta and field testing since 1984, and our ability to research, edit and produce articles for worldwide and localized readers (newspapers, Web news and information sites), may we be able to apply for Beta testing and product review privileges on the long-rumored The Bat 2.0 version? Beta testing now, and of course, we would be happy to work with you to properly time articles and reviews, and our recommendations. Although we are happy to detail what may be needed in Email, our main Web site is at www.windowgroup.com [details are at www.windowgroup.com/wg ], and we are also quite experienced in performing to both simple trust agreements and/or non-disclosure agreements as is necessary. Looking forward to your reply, Warmest regards Joe Rotello Founder Joe Rotello / Founder / WindowGroup / Kodak, TN / USA / Voice: (865) 932-0041, ICQ 1509199 / Since 1970 Technology Translators / Trainers / Consultants / Electronic Publishers / Web and Video Publications / WWW.MHUSER.COM / www.windowgroup.com Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
It appears I have screwed myself by registering v 1.62r early
The following was just sent to The Bat! developers. -- Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.62r Serial Number BxxxBxxx under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 I just registered The Bat! yesterday after only trying The Bat! for 2 days of the 30 day evaluation. I registered before evaluation was up to show support for your great product. Now I find out a new version will be available in 6 days and I will be charged 50% of purchase price. If I had waited until full evaluation had run out, then I would only have had to pay full price of new version and nothing for old. Thus, by showing support for The Bat! it appears I have screwed myself. Is this correct? IMHO - Anyone who has registered Version 1.62r in the last 2 months should get the upgrade for free and NOT a 50% discount. MOST shareware providers go longer than that before charging for a upgrade. Regards, Craig Westerman -- Craig Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v 1.62r Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 Text/HTML/PHP Editor - NoteTab Pro v 4.95 Text Organizer - Personal Knowbase v 2.1 FreeBSD - Apache - MySQL - PHP -- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Hello PIXIE,
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:05:46 -0400 GMT (25/08/2003, 15:05 +0700 GMT),
PIXIE wrote:
BTW: which macro is generally used in a list for xxx wrote reply
template? I popped in %TONAME but want to double check.
Roelof already gave you good advice. I would like to share my own
template with you:
On%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%-
%REGEXPMATCH=%HEADERS GMT (%ODateShort, %OTime +0700 GMT),
%OFROMNAME wrote:
Don't worry if you don't understand it, I don't either! Kind people on
this list helped me, and it does exactly what I want it to do (see the
attribution line above).
As for filling in the TO field in the message header, I use this:
%TO=%TO=%OFromName on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mind you, this in the AB reply template, not in the folder-level
reply template.
Don't get confused. If this is over your head at the moment, it will
become clear in a while.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.
What we learn from movies: Any lock can be picked by a credit card or
a paper clip in seconds, unless it's the door to a burning building
with a child trapped inside.
Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4
under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A
using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM
Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Hello PIXIE, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:25:15 -0400 GMT (25/08/2003, 16:25 +0700 GMT), PIXIE wrote: TF can add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to that template and it will do Correction, add %TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- at least on this old 1.62r version -I- am running.. heh heh. You are still right, I forgot the quotes. Seems you have a grasp of TB's macro language already. ;-) How do you like the beta 2.x? Love it. Many new features, and bug-count is decreasing at a mind-boggling pace, unless you use IMAP, which is still very beta, but I don't use it. TB 2.0 promises to become a real gem of a software. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Eine Ratte schwaermt der anderen vor: 'Ach ja, diese Lerngesetze sind schon toll! Jedes Mal wenn ich diesen Hebel druecke, muss mir der Weisskittel Futter geben!' Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank mails
Hello John, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:23:28 +1000 GMT (25/08/2003, 17:23 +0700 GMT), John Phillips wrote: Some (rare) e-mails received are completely blank except for the header. How ever if I click on the Reply arrow, I can then read the mail. Could you post the headers of such a message here? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A boiled egg in the morning is hard to beat. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME vs PGP
Hello Joseph, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:12:09 -0500 GMT (25/08/2003, 20:12 +0700 GMT), Joseph N. wrote: It surprises me a bit that you are using PGP, because I see no type of PGP signature or hash indication in your message, Allie uses PGP/MIME, a feature of the beta series. yet TB! shows a signature icon in the upper right corner of the preview pane or message window. And the icon is operable; when I click it, I get a verification of your signature. You are using a beta version, a feature of which is to show the PGP/MIME icon you describe. *Where* is the OpenPGP signature that TB! is verifying?? Hit F9 and look at the bottom. Your question pertains to beautiful new beta features... -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Nach Ansicht des Sachverstaendigen durfte der Verlust zwischen 250.000 und einer Viertelmillion liegen. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank mails
Hello John, Monday, August 25, 2003, 6:23:28 AM, you wrote: JP How ever if I click on the Reply arrow, I can then read the mail. I forgot to add that I can't read even if I hit reply or forward either. However, when I get another e-mail from someone else who has replied to the original e-mail, the e-mail message is clearly there. -- Best regards, Kennethmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filtering read messages to individual folders
Hello Terry, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:23:27 +0100 GMT (25/08/2003, 21:23 +0700 GMT), Terry wrote: It would be great as a work-around if there was some way to double-up on filters - for example, move a set of messages to one folder and, as they enter that folder, have a set of filters that act on the messages and filter them further. I don't know if that is possible or not. I've experimented some but have never been able to get it to work. Hopefully, someone will tell me there's a real easy way of doing this that I have missed. It 's a good idea for the wishlist. I just checked, and Incoming filters, while they have a drop-down box arrow, don't actually have a drop-down box. Would be nice if you could choose Source folder from anywhere. Add it to the wishlist. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Was ist das fuer eine Zeitform: Ich haette kein Kind werden sollen? Preservativ defekt. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Count
Hello Christian, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:17:42 +0200 GMT (25/08/2003, 19:17 +0700 GMT), Christian Rausche wrote: is there a way to count all messages in the message bases and not just one folder? I have tons of common folders and would like to know the total number of messages. I have a total count per account. But you are right, there is no grand total count which would include the common folders. If you added it to the wishlist, where would you want it to appear? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Salmon day: Swimming upstream all day to get screwed in the end. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Range of messages visible in Message List
Hello Günter, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:35:02 +1000 GMT (25/08/2003, 19:35 +0700 GMT), Günter Minnerup wrote: For some reason, I can only see old messages back to a certain date in all folders, even though TB is set to display all messages in the message list. Any suggestions as to which setting is responsible for that? I would think Delete messages after xx days in the folder properties is responsible for this. I've looked but can't find anything except the Display item in the View menu. This setting is not sticky. If you close TB and reopen it, the Display setting will have been forgotten. In any case, when you are in the main menu and have the message list in focus, hitting esc will cause all messages to be displayed. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The real question for 1988 is whether we're going to go forward to tomorrow or past to the--to the back! --V.P. Dan Quayle. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 2.0 Beta test and reviewing
Hello Joe, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:35:10 -0400 GMT (25/08/2003, 21:35 +0700 GMT), Joe Rotello wrote: With out combined 33+ years in the industry, Beta and field testing since 1984, and our ability to research, edit and produce articles for worldwide and localized readers (newspapers, Web news and information sites), may we be able to apply for Beta testing and product review privileges on the long-rumored The Bat 2.0 version? This one is easy. Two steps are required: 1.) Download the current beta from ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta If you want a full changelog since the last release version, you want to download all the .txt files pertaining to 1.63 and 2.0 versions. We are now at 2.0 beta 4. 2.) Subscribe to the beta list. You can do this by sending a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and putting subscribe (without quotes) into the subject. TB betas are open to anybody. Bugs found should be reported to www.ritlabs.com/bt after being described on the beta list and confirmed by another beta tester. Although we are happy to detail what may be needed in Email, our main Web site is at www.windowgroup.com [details are at www.windowgroup.com/wg ], and we are also quite experienced in performing to both simple trust agreements and/or non-disclosure agreements as is necessary. I believe your participation in the beta cycle will be an enrichment for The Bat. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. In an office: AFTER TEA BREAK STAFF SHOULD EMPTY THE TEAPOT AND STAND UPSIDE DOWN ON THE DRAINING BOARD Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:The Bat! 2.0 Beta test and reviewing
JR With out combined 33+ years in the industry, Well, would YOU trust a company that can't even check its own sales pitch for literals? -- regards Clive Taylor Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! 2.0 Beta test and reviewing
Hello Clive, Monday, August 25, 2003, 6:01:44 PM, you wrote: JR With out combined 33+ years in the industry, CT Well, would YOU trust a company that can't even check its own sales CT pitch for literals? Yes I would. But that's not the point. I've been using TB! for ~5 years now (is it really that long?), I started with version 1.1x. Anyway, I've been waiting for years for this to come out and I nearly missed it due to my mail connection going down for a long time. Where can I sign up for this beta? Or is it too late. I don't want to wait until Sep 1, I want to see it now. Oh well, looks like part of my student loan is going to RitLabs. There's no way I'm going to be able to sleep tonight now. -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with Reply Template
Hi all, I'm having trouble with a template for Reply while in The Bat folder. Nothing at all appears in the message section, even though the macros are in the template (in fact I copied them from anther folder). The template is pretty simple: %Cursor - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - On %ODateEn, %TIME, %OFROMADDR wrote: %Quotes -- %DATESHORT Any ideas why this wouldn't work in this one folder? The only difference between this folder's templates and the one I copied it from is that the New Message template in The Bat has a %FROM macro (which I just picked up from the list this morning!) Sorry if I have some of the terminology wrong. Definitely new to macros. I'm still test-driving TB and have learned a lot from this group. Thanks, -- Pat A Canadian in Houston 8/25/03 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:19:29 +0700 GMT, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:05:46 -0400 GMT (25/08/2003, 15:05 +0700 GMT), Thanks for the snippet from your template, I'm slightly aware of regular expressions as I use some in other programs. One thing that caught my attention is for some reason my mail has -0400 in the header instead of -0500, as indicated by your template. I'm unaware of any way to adjust this aside from the time zone setting in windows.. Pixie -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ot - please verify?
Hi all, I know this is off topic, but could anyone please verify my pgp sig? I've made a few changes and I was wondering... Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: The Bat! 2.0 Beta test and reviewing
It seems that Jamie Dainton said ... J Where can I sign up for this beta? Or is it too late. I don't want to J wait until Sep 1, I want to see it now. Oh well, looks like part of my J student loan is going to RitLabs. I was going to wait, too, but I had the misfortune to see the URL for the beta today (ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta/) and went there. This is the kind of new version I like: EVERYTHING looks familiar, it works the way I expect it to work, and poking around through the menus reveals some neat new features. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 8/25/2003 at 1:34 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: In combat, never forget that your weapon was manufactured by the lowest bidder. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: It appears I have screwed myself by registering v 1.62r early
Hi Craig, on Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:41:30 -0500GMT (25.08.03, 16:41 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : CW I just registered The Bat! yesterday after only trying The Bat! for CW 2 days of the 30 day evaluation. I registered before evaluation was CW up to show support for your great product. Welcome to the club. It was the same here, albeit ~2 years ago. :-) CW Now I find out a new version will be available in 6 days I don't quite understand why they announced that. The current beta doesn't feel ready for release to me... CW and I will be charged 50% of purchase price. I don't think so. Keep cool for now. *s* CW IMHO - Anyone who has registered Version 1.62r in the last 2 months CW should get the upgrade for free and NOT a 50% discount. MOST CW shareware providers go longer than that before charging for a CW upgrade. I'm sure the Ritlabs guys might be willing to consider this. :-) OTOH, with 1.62r you have purchased a well functioning mail client that you can use as long as you like. My mother is using TB! 1.61i, I believe, and when I tell her about newer versions, she waves me off, no thanks, this is working fine, please don't change it... ;-) Version 2 has been profoundly re-coded and it has additional features like IMAP support and PGP/MIME, so I see it as a new product, based on the previous. -- Cheers Peter 'Yield to temptation. It may not come your way again.' Oscar Wilde Winamp currently playing: - silence - Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ot - please verify?
Hello daveiw, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:37:43 +0100 GMT (26/08/2003, 00:37 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is off topic, but could anyone please verify my pgp sig? I've made a few changes and I was wondering... Verifies OK. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Pray: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. (Ambrose Bierce) Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Hello PIXIE, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:34:01 -0400 GMT (26/08/2003, 00:34 +0700 GMT), PIXIE wrote: One thing that caught my attention is for some reason my mail has -0400 in the header instead of -0500, as indicated by your template. That's what you are sending: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:34:01 -0400 I'm unaware of any way to adjust this aside from the time zone setting in windows.. I'm afraid that's exactly the place you want to go. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. THE RED LION pub at Lacock in Wiltshire offers whisky-flavoured condoms for sale. The small print at the bottom of the machine advises: Warning-Do not drive while using this product. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: The Bat! 2.0 Beta test and reviewing
Hello Bill, Monday, August 25, 2003, 6:37:38 PM, you wrote: BBTE I was going to wait, too, but I had the misfortune to see the URL for BBTE the beta today (ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta/) and went BBTE there. This is the kind of new version I like: EVERYTHING looks BBTE familiar, it works the way I expect it to work, and poking around BBTE through the menus reveals some neat new features. Yay. It's downloaded and isntalled. I was hoping it might loko a little snazier but really I have no idea what I was expecting. I've lost the address of the beta list, could somebody point me in teh right direction as I have many questions about V2. -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ot - please verify?
Hi daveiw, on Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:37:43 +0100GMT (25.08.03, 19:37 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : dcn I know this is off topic, but could anyone please verify my pgp dcn sig? I've made a few changes and I was wondering... Good signature here. :-) -- Cheers Peter 'To learn more about paranoids, follow them around!' Winamp currently playing: - silence - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ot - please verify?
Hi, Monday, August 25, 2003, 6:37:43 PM, you wrote: dcn Hi all, dcn I know this is off topic, but could anyone please verify my pgp sig? dcn I've made a few changes and I was wondering... dcn Best regards, dcn Dave Wilson. dcn [EMAIL PROTECTED] dcn (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) I'm using the latest beta of v2 and I must admit that I like the way pgp is integrated - thanks for your replies. -- Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ot - please verify?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi daveiw, On Monday, August 25, 2003 at 18:37 GMT +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [dcn] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: dcn I know this is off topic, but could anyone please verify my pgp dcn sig? I've made a few changes and I was wondering... Looks okay over here. gpg: Signature made 08/25/03 13:37:43 Eastern Daylight Time using DSA key ID 6D9675F3 gpg: Good signature from Dave Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: aka Dave Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA X-Request-PGP: http://www.kcoates.com/0x434798B9.htm Using TB! v2.0 Beta/4 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP1 . -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/Sk+TRbTFvUNHmLkRAo5ZAJ0VPzJJMTaf0l7PpWlJMIHbNh3gLgCgiVfn Vod5dpSTnuHEqMmepBlumR4= =xMuO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: S/MIME vs PGP
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:16:06 -0500 GMT, Allie Martin wrote: Thanks for the information! That really helped out a bunch, I now have GnuPG operating and the GPGshell. It'll take a some more reading and experimenting to learn how to use. Pixie -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 2.0 Beta test and reviewing
Hello Jamie, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:56:54 +0100 GMT (26/08/2003, 00:56 +0700 GMT), Jamie Dainton wrote: I've lost the address of the beta list, could somebody point me in teh right direction as I have many questions about V2. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - put subscribe (no quotes) in the subject field. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. SYMPTOM: Feet cold and wet. FAULT: Glass being held at incorrect angle. ACTION: Rotate glass so that open end points toward the ceiling. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
dispatcher column sorting in v2b4
Hi all, I've tried using dispatcher in the latest version and when I view it the receive column is now the second from the left, can I re-sort the columns so that this becomes my first column? I know it's minor, but I preferred it that way, any help is much appreciated. Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:47:35 +0700 GMT, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF That's what you are sending: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:34:01 -0400 Yes I realize that. Kind of strange.. TF I'm afraid that's exactly the place you want to go. Sure enough, the TZ was set for (GMT -05:00) Eastern Time (US Canada) -- W95 lingo. Was stamping -04:00 though.. Changed to another -0500 setting in the list and it cleared up the discrepancy I think. Guess that's what I get for being a hold out and using an obsolete version of windows.. :-) -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 2.0 Beta test and reviewing
Hello Jamie! On Monday, August 25, 2003, 12:56 PM, you wrote, in part: J ... lost the address of the beta list, could somebody point me in teh J right direction as I have many questions about V2. Go here: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Scroll down to the bottom of the page. There's a button for subscribing to TBBETA. It creates a subscribe e-mail for you to send. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 2.0 Beta test and reviewing
Hello Jamie! On Monday, August 25, 2003, 12:56 PM, you wrote: J ... could somebody point me in teh J right direction [for TBBETA] ... Sorry, I miswrote on my message just now: it's not a button but a link at the very bottom of the page at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
Hello PIXIE, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:33:51 -0500 GMT (26/08/2003, 02:33 +0700 GMT), PIXIE wrote: Guess that's what I get for being a hold out and using an obsolete version of windows.. :-) Your time zone is fine now. And my Windows version will become obsolete come January 15 - MS already announced that. Dinos should stick together. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Invent nonsense computer jargon in conversations, and see if people play along to avoid looking ignorant. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/4 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank mails
Hi Deborah, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, at 08:27:33 [GMT -0400] (which was 22:27 where I live) you wrote: Are you, like another poster this morning, missing the tab at the bottom of the screen which allows you to view html? Comes up if I receive HTML (shudder). Or are the messages maybe formatted in html using white text on a white background? Why then would I see them on a reply? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 I find myself beside a stream of empty thought Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank mails
Hi Roelof, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, at 14:31:07 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:31 where I live) you wrote: Might be that they're html only. If not, can you read them when you look for the source (Press F9)? Only the source shows. Tried that as well! -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Ever notice how fast Windows runs? Neither did I. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PGP Signage
Hello tbudl, Is there a macro to stop signing messages to certain addresses? I am using 2.0 Beta 4. I want to stop signing messages to Yahoo Mail lists as it is pointless cos they strip all non text. -- Best regards, Michael ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) If guns are outlawed, how will conservatives win any arguments? http://www.thompsonmike.co.uk/ PGP KeyID := 0xA9547E32 Using TheBat! Version 2.0 Beta/4 Running On Windows XP (2600, Service Pack 1) Sent From OneAndOne pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank mails
Hi Thomas, On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, at 22:27:21 [GMT +0700] (which was 01:27 where I live) you wrote: Could you post the headers of such a message here? Below. My mistake last e-mail. I can only see the mail (see below) in this post if pressing F9. (Last line) Received: from mail.rivernet.com.au by b9 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (applied security profile: Low) at Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:49:05 +1000 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mailgate.mci.tel-pacific.com (mailgate.mci.tel-pacific.com [203.88.255.23]) by telpacmail.tel-pacific.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7P2194t014041 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:01:09 +1000 Received: from fashionfair.com.au (1Cust194.tnt9.syd2.da.uu.net [63.34.228.194]) by mailgate.mci.tel-pacific.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h7P20MB22830 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:00:23 +1000 Received: from bne009m.server-mail.com by fashionfair.com.au (with DomainPOP) (MDaemon.PRO.v6.8.4.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:00:44 +1000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 2566 invoked by alias); 25 Aug 2003 01:50:27 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 2544 invoked from network); 25 Aug 2003 01:50:27 - Received: from unknown (HELO imsm039dat.netvigator.com) (218.102.48.78) by bne009m.server-mail.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 2003 01:50:27 - Subject: Re: Hong Kong visit To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Auto-reply from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:50:25 +0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDRcpt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54 (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) X-Spam-Report: Start SpamAssassin results -0.50 points, 5 required; * -0.5 -- Has a In-Reply-To header End of SpamAssassin results X-Spam-Processed: fashionfair.com.au, Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:00:46 +1000 X-MDRedirect: 1 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Status: O MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Pls kindly forward your emails to my new email address in future: [EMAIL PROTECTED], thank you. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Why do we read left to right yet turn pages right to left? Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Hello and a couple questions (dispatcher this list)
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 01:44:11 +0700 GMT, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Your time zone is fine now. And my Windows version will become TF obsolete come January 15 - MS already announced that. Dinos should TF stick together. ;-) Well... Seems that I was in error once again. I am in GMT-0400 until October 26 @ 2AM. Hadn't crossed my mind that the silly daylight savings time hour shift was in effect. It's quite amazing the wealth of information http://greenwichmeantime.com/ has available. -- Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/4 on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ot - please verify?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I know this is off topic, but could anyone please verify my pgp sig? I've made a few changes and I was wondering... Best regards, Dave Wilson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: Fingerprint: 869D 5DF3 48F9 6DCE BA72 F690 8BA8 C177 6D96 75F3 iQA/AwUBP0oxaouowXdtlnXzEQLViQCeOZsYdX2ILoHeZ7FSoPhZUiLwZUMAoIxL aNLzlSx0LHJxgwVaeV3UnpyI =ZD6/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank mails
Hello John! On Monday, August 25, 2003, 2:26 PM, you wrote: D Are you, like another poster this morning, missing the tab at the bottom D of the screen which allows you to view html? J Comes up if I receive HTML (shudder). (shudder) D Or are the messages maybe formatted in html using white text on a white D background? J Why then would I see them on a reply? Something to do with the choice (in the main window) at Options/Preferences/Viewer. I have mine set at Fixed Width Font. Also, under the General tab at Options/Preferences there's a box to tick to view HTML messages automatically. I don't have this box checked. Just a thought--you could experiment with all these settings. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filtering read messages to individual folders
Hi Thomas, On Monday, August 25, 2003 at 4:40 PM, Thomas wrote: It 's a good idea for the wishlist. I just checked, and Incoming filters, while they have a drop-down box arrow, don't actually have a drop-down box. Would be nice if you could choose Source folder from anywhere. Add it to the wishlist. Thanks for that suggestion. I've submitted it to the wish list. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ot - please verify?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 16:55:29 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is off topic, but could anyone please verify my pgp sig? I've made a few changes and I was wondering... Best regards, Good signature here. gpg: NOTE: old default options file `C:/gnupg\options' ignored gpg: armor header: Hash: SHA1 gpg: armor header: Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ gpg: armor header: Comment: Fingerprint: 869D 5DF3 48F9 6DCE BA72 F690 8BA8 C177 6D96 75F3 gpg: original file name='' gpg: Signature made 08/25/03 16:55:22 using DSA key ID 6D9675F3 gpg: Good signature from Dave Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: aka Dave Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: checking the trustdb gpg: 38 keys processed (5 validity counts cleared) gpg: NOTE: signature key 9669DC4F expired 07/13/02 09:23:32 gpg: checking at depth 0 signed=3 ot(-/q/n/m/f/u)=0/0/0/0/0/1 gpg: checking at depth 1 signed=1 ot(-/q/n/m/f/u)=1/0/0/0/2/0 gpg: checking at depth 2 signed=0 ot(-/q/n/m/f/u)=1/0/0/0/0/0 gpg: next trustdb check due at 2003-10-11 gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. Primary key fingerprint: 869D 5DF3 48F9 6DCE BA72 F690 8BA8 C177 6D96 75F3 gpg: textmode signature, digest algorithm SHA1 Sean - -- Fidonet: 2:263/950 ICQ: 679813 GPG Key 0x7DA70294 Website http://www.tcob1.net THE VIEWS EXPRESSED HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF MY WIFE. - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (MingW32) mQGiBD1L39QRBACtf90f0PDLbmkHBpvS2ScQguCaL1M25AJ8sRb3zc4S5CJh7TaT CFc6qEzhvcjunHWkWjXoETJNCq4pPdQ6Vd0E+EqfdnKvsEc8i1aEiBIYgoivhaeu lnuiDwjozw1GV0uD6gdLo/nkNOvQwIbKAumBXGC2wajU0sIB1HrCE0FN4wCg05Yu r4kUFxe6g7KENnk9h7JHwlUD/iH9uVEEZCwvVEQrIaSx2nM9cNhEQKAq6AI50vF2 6Hdu87nN0X2E8rQQ0pI2ch0cqF0EYekgbiORh7yS9PWl3flC7/S7IYKeRbCKiVAm ri+bX9QDyfrM17swPIQHHudwI04M5Sgmq+YB6TND+hkprBi/zfDog8GFLoZ/O+Ao v19KA/9al24zie0OJllkYyBKrcpBzFKCwTvPyKi0D5xwVJpolRRHIybY3aNfwYgk /z7AdEYvba7kiRtd4XOLzQlXWndMk/BvElH2mjNrCyz6IbytWr0oJrpm83+W8vsy DJ7uy9AMDM2ZmM/vCjefypp0o5fki3QmsnwPOkRnxvPafns6ZrQiU2VhbiBSaW1h IChUQ09CMSkgPHNlYW5AdGNvYjEubmV0PohlBBMRAgAlAhsDBQkCPCGbBAsHAwID FQIDAxYCAQIeAQIXgAIZAQUCPabN8AAKCRAcydJafacClDamAKDAdbQqd3QbccCR 6x3lpacUcQt5xgCfRiNQ41kcj5C22a5HpB1nc/lqeoCIXAQTEQIAHAQLBwMCAxUC AwMWAgECHgECF4ACGQEFAj1L39UACgkQHMnSWn2nApRiPACfbBisQCU0GGsHj6Dk O0lE+X09ycQAnAqU/USqsEpEQGJ4yjs5wZq7jvnZiGIEExECACIFAj2mze8CGwMF CQI8IZsECwcDAgMVAgMDFgIBAh4BAheAAAoJEBzJ0lp9pwKUQEEAoKXePf80ia5B jwkqNzrfrDEJolrUAJ0cGJ6lwsHhzZbc30nGqEbs6NwuVLQqU2VhbiBSaW1hIChT UEFNIFRSQVApIDxzcGFtdHJhcEB0Y29iMS5uZXQ+iGIEExECACIFAj2mzfECGwMF CQI8IZsECwcDAgMVAgMDFgIBAh4BAheAAAoJEBzJ0lp9pwKUCh4AoJI1KeskJEyW iN07GV7CP4x6wDDkAKCKcGQVm2sJsSSuvzmQrKNCU34G3YhcBBMRAgAcBQI9S+Ix AhsDBAsHAwIDFQIDAxYCAQIeAQIXgAAKCRAcydJafacClEd1AJ9oYCKbQdlstst7 n9z26VU7UCAPswCgxW3QZf3p6jUS3uvzGYEfQ3SDuQq0I1NlYW4gUmltYSAoR2F0 ZXMpIDxnYXRlc0B0Y29iMS5uZXQ+iGQEExECACQFAj7WbI4CGwMFCQI8IZsGCwkI BwMCAxUCAwMWAgECHgECF4AACgkQHMnSWn2nApTI7QCgu1K9wUghYyDnYR0ul7De /3bRY50An0Y8Fgsde8LG+aXE7OJml+O5KR1OuQENBD1L4D0QBADrG86APPsb88F2 qLu4tYMYaXxPjfctaoWiEljIdSDQSjKA3EucjHWpycCvzs+Pb/8+zxt0+kyXGIsl BNK4F3gGpDiXumpOKKT+tQwCQemwhw2zH6f/lk5AtqHkcy20hd+2u5NaR37rogdI VSlirPWwm4Ek4X+sdum0puxSTDxAdwAECwP/cqo8ve+hfN6hCRLbYbAPsqCdfKDB bMwRC1AmvPHqVz5jAtVzTcc8h7kebXobO5gi+qXfUkvvX/az7zWPqt9WmZHLVOo1 4qxCGleudJA5I0mcuY+DtJuB0PtdWkyCXij5nu6VRkTmuHzJnNfgijUPTfks8QVH iVYwnHpBUa/jjViIRgQYEQIABgUCPUvgPgAKCRAcydJafacClEhgAJ9NJZtw3B4L mY0HYV9dxd1V0Oi2OgCfUc/w5YI11+izj6Akgm/n9S20Vz2ZAaIEO06wBBEEAJRU ZGIwli6SoVGOnEmHkjlJTGWiqwWgg6Qz1q163uVPNEyWP+Un4rNtcnmhCGwXDWN7 v9gMpv8SVMzUXSZG7m7EhVR/KWKqSAoFKtn78AoutRfMuolFFXm1RGUbovsp9Kqn YiASmltkbjp1/FBq0y4i21hUw/3I/YdxALGyvp13AKDrIbehjDkraSYiBUUGvMCV A1s0vQP/RUsu2nltq8W1Z1DIhh3VsZeHP/CcqLHJ3vpbvoyKbD7/cj5rBx4IClQ/ 96XrDhBwbxWIvtxuJvpZjSNeygA39ADz541hJRXsJflSNBfrExVsVdPXAyw2yVPw KCcrWNj6wE131jk7bDJzS9OhFISMt4BYpUVZ8hWYltrgymK9UkID/356KJHJ9d4d qe8lII4GM6JTLyOaaWK5gu+CbnpfWFyKOo4atcyrxPy0UFkAQGgnZvMVf2ReIq6E z8wL2+C1Jsdm+bbJVj2+foHwvS4kpst3sl236HZuTmZjCZxn6PmO5ys9AhEh5iBS ++btJxX5i9hnrvdlkcIOzkv8xgho4w+biFAEIBECABAFAj1L3pcJHQFFeHBpcmVk AAoJEHkfy9mWadxPzBEAoJWY8AUotDZR7CNFW6ob2k3OFN2/AJ9V9hEAuX50W69Z AKmXKdbnEsaGt7QmU2VhbiBSaW1hIChFbWFpbCBLZXkpIDxzZWFuQHRjb2IxLm5l dD6IXQQTEQIAHQUCO06wBAUJAeEzgAULBwoDBAMVAwIDFgIBAheAAAoJEHkfy9mW adxPzZQAn3Zio/TI68uEOp8XR9XL4u+ejUNdAJ4lowJFzLmYhrRyRfrZ+1WcIwu3 KLQqU2VhbiBSaW1hIChTUEFNIFRSQVApIDxzcGFtdHJhcEB0Y29iMS5uZXQ+iF0E ExECAB0FAjv/+ksFCQHhM4AFCwcKAwQDFQMCAxYCAQIXgAAKCRB5H8vZlmncT0LZ AKDMc4j2Qc9GJ4nRzDR4+FIrLP+7ngCfexrfijoo3ZmF2NqJDINY9x4o//W4zQQ7 TrA9EAMAj7Hq0jRThA1gyiixP0B/FT519cPqCOFOlsIUq7Ha16OrdpZlmZ5WFBSF 4bHr+G8EenG91FUIBPs6hyVG1jcCLqXk5ENcHLlbDWlVj7IqvvxsIfVHBUlPbIat zZyZZzCvAAMFAv9K4HoX7i70kiXabYpNQWi2uwAMb1Y7XW2bHoIBTQN2xABLS1ji 4koI8AZ9ZjMUkjz1CXkUqc03H/d6ngHkuOZPOT/fS2gCrKd0PhonfvNKUeEgVDIK NdKcixHPRzHXZGOITAQYEQIADAUCO06wPQUJAeEzgAAKCRB5H8vZlmncTx3JAJ9R
Re: ot - please verify?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dave, On Monday, 25. August 2003, at 16:55:29 [GMT +0100] you wrote: I know this is off topic, but could anyone please verify my pgp sig? I've made a few changes and I was wondering... ,- [ Looks good here ] | *** PGP SIGNATURE VERIFICATION *** | *** Status: Good Signature from Invalid Key | *** Alert:Please verify signer's key before trusting signature. | *** Signer: Dave Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (0x6D9675F3) | *** Signed: 25/08/2003 12:55:22 p.m. | *** Verified: 25/08/2003 05:32:48 p.m. | *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** | | Hi all, | | I know this is off topic, but could anyone please verify my pgp sig? | I've made a few changes and I was wondering... | | | | Best regards, | | Dave Wilson. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) | | | *** END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** | | | | | Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: | http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html `- - -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: TheBat! 2.0 Beta/4 OS: Windows XP Service Pack 1 PGP:PGP 8.0 | Key: 0xABBB7287 HP: http://home.arcor.de/thebat/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBP0pyt4ePyUSru3KHEQIZFACfTpV2DAEKHkKp/CXkANa46GzDuMIAn1O9 2KsPqnJPv29vsPC9M7AAIIBm =+yDN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
password beta?
After installing the latest beta 2.04 I was asked to fill in my registration key and checksum. When I did I got a message saying that these did not match my password. Can I not use my 'old' registration ID for this beta? -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v 2.0 beta/1 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Range of messages visible in Message List
On Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 1:50:44 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: For some reason, I can only see old messages back to a certain date in all folders, even though TB is set to display all messages in the message list. Any suggestions as to which setting is responsible for that? I would think Delete messages after xx days in the folder properties is responsible for this. Nope. The box is not ticked. I've looked but can't find anything except the Display item in the View menu. This setting is not sticky. If you close TB and reopen it, the Display setting will have been forgotten. In any case, when you are in the main menu and have the message list in focus, hitting esc will cause all messages to be displayed. Nope. ESC makes no difference... Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.62r Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Count
Hello Thomas, I have a total count per account. But you are right, there is no grand total count which would include the common folders. Create a dummy account and move your common folders to it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
apogies re beta and password
I realized too late I should have gone to TBBeta list with my question about re-registering. When I did, I found the answer in their archive. -- Regards, Ochrid _ The Bat! v 2.0 beta/1 op Windows XP _ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: It appears I have screwed myself by registering v 1.62r early
Hi Craig, Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 12:41:30 AM, you wrote: CW I just registered The Bat! yesterday after only trying The CW Bat! for 2 days of the 30 day evaluation. I registered before CW evaluation was up to show support for your great product. Now CW I find out a new version will be available in 6 days and I CW will be charged 50% of purchase price. CW If I had waited until full evaluation had run out, then I would CW only have had to pay full price of new version and nothing for CW old. Thus, by showing support for The Bat! it appears I have screwed CW myself. I am in the same boat as you, Craig, installed the software Saturday registered Monday. Monday afternoon I read that that version 2 is due out September 1st. Regards Robyn Winter R2 Dzigns Melbourne Australia Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Range of messages visible in Message List
Replying to myself :-): This is now cured by changing the message list view date option from received to created. When restoring from a backup recently, it reverted back to received without me noticing. As all the messages had been imported from another email app on changing to TB, older messages all had 1/5/2003, the date of the changeover, as the received date. Still, it raises the question why not all messages with that date were displayed... Regards, Günter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 1.62r Windows XP Version 5 Build 2600 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: stupid Q, But...
On Monday, August 25, 2003, 10:06:31 AM, Marek Mikus wrote: MM V2.0 has more than 70% of new source code, there are really many of MM improvements, only some of them are listed bellow. AFAIK final MM version will have fully implemented Unicode, bigger GUI changes and MM new filtering system will be in one of next 2.x version, upgrade to MM V2 is a good choice :-) And the price? :-) -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank mails
On Monday, August 25, 2003, 3:26:53 PM, John Phillips wrote: Or are the messages maybe formatted in html using white text on a white background? JP Why then would I see them on a reply? When you reply, it would be quoted in plain text :-) -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME vs PGP
Joseph N., [JN] wrote: JN It surprises me a bit that you are using PGP, because I see no type JN of PGP signature or hash indication in your message, yet TB! shows a JN signature icon in the upper right corner of the preview pane or JN message window. And the icon is operable; when I click it, I get a JN verification of your signature. *Where* is the OpenPGP signature JN that TB! is verifying?? That's a PGP/MIME signature. I decided to use them on this list even though this signature type isn't supported by the current full release version. Why? This signature type makes the message body text cleaner since there's no signature text present to clutter the message. It's all hidden in the headers. I also know how it's been trying to justify to members why the cluttering is warranted in the case of my signing messages to this list. PGP/MIME is therefore a godsend. Between Marck, Leif, myself and the members who use PGP/MIME supported versions of TB!, i.e., beta versions g, we can ensure that my messages are really from me. :) -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
