Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP
Sh'mae tbudl-bounces, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, at 15:57:09 [GMT -0400] (or 20:57 in Wales) regarding 'spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP' you wrote: PC On Friday, September 27, 2002, 3:09 PM, you wrote: spammer supporter style rant Sorry but no sympathy from me, and my domain has been in SPEWS cause of other people. If there is a lawsuit against anyone for blocking lists, they'll get a hefty contribution from me for their defense fund... (a mail admin whose heard it all before) a -- pgp key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] O I'd rather play guitar [EMAIL PROTECTED] /|\ 13:02, 29 September 2002 (o--¬ http://new-wales.net / \ Adam Rykala The opinions above are solely those of a 12 year old hacker who has broken into my account, and not those of my employer or any other organization. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Stops Picking Up Mail ...
Sh'mae tbudl-bounces, On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, at 22:11:20 [GMT +0100] (or 22:11 in Wales) regarding 'Stops Picking Up Mail ...' you wrote: MDP Hi Paul, PC I did a search and found akamaitech.net, but I'm not sure I can figure out PC what to block, the range of IPs??? I have TPF, Tiny firewall installed, and PC it does give you the option of blocking an IP, range... anyway, this looks PC like a nice TBOT topic ;) MDP It should probably continue there. MDP F'up to TBOT Just a quicky before you go OT Open up your hosts file in windows and add whatever.akamaitech.net127.0.0.1 Does the job a. -- pgp key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] O I'd rather play guitar [EMAIL PROTECTED] /|\ 22:16, 22 September 2002 (o--¬ http://new-wales.net / \ Adam Rykala Uh, I'm-I'm not quite dead, sir. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPAl
Sh'mae tbudl-bounces, On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, at 18:55:40 [GMT -0400] (or 23:55 in Wales) regarding 'SpamPAl' you wrote: AR DNSBL's is the main thing - the bat can filter on various things AR but its retroactive - SpamPal is a bi more pro active KC I guess I don't see the advantage as spam is spam and in either case KC it ends up in the same folder, whether tagged by a DNSBL list or not. KC The disadvantage, as I mentioned, is that sometimes you get mail KC tagged as spam erroneously if a person happens to be legitimate and KC residing on a DNSBL flagged server. You also have to run a 3rd party KC program that needs to be updated periodically, ties up more system KC resources, to achieve the same net result. Simply using The Bat's KC built in capabilities seems more streamlined. I've gone both routes, KC but this is what I've found works for me. In either case, it seems KC ridiculous that we all have to jump these hoops in order to eliminate KC unwanted, unrequested junk mail. I hate spam. :( As someone who's domain is tagged in SPEWS because of someone else, I actually disagree strongly. SPEWS is a wonderful deterrent and I think using DNSBL's is a much better way then relying on filtering on rules. I'd like to see TB! do its own lookup of DNSBL's and then it would be the ULTIMATE email client - so hint hint Ritlabs! ;-) As I have a Dual Piii system with 640mb of ram system resources isn't an issue for me! a -- pgp key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] O I'd rather play guitar [EMAIL PROTECTED] /|\ 09:34, 21 September 2002 (o--¬ http://new-wales.net / \ Adam Rykala When danger reared its ugly head, He bravely turned his tail and fled. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SpamPAl
Sh'mae Gyfeilion, Seeing as the pursuit of spam is an ongoing concern to everyone...anyone checked out SpamPal at www.spampal.org.uk? I'm using it now and it looks pretty good... DNSBL's, white/blacklists, auto updates free and the manual mentions the Bat! for configuring anyway! a -- pgp key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] O Guitar players do it louder! [EMAIL PROTECTED] /|\ 14:52, 20 September 2002 (o--¬ http://new-wales.net / \ Adam Rykala There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats. - Albert Schweitzer Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamPAl
Sh'mae Kevin, On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, at 15:51:59 [GMT -0400] (or 20:51 in Wales) regarding 'SpamPAl' you wrote: KC There really is no need to use a 3rd party filter if you invest a KC little time setting up The Bats filters. The end result is effective KC spam filtering with only one program ... your e-mail program. The KC Bat's backup facility allows you to save everything easily. Who could KC ask for more? DNSBL's is the main thing - the bat can filter on various things but its retroactive - SpamPal is a bi more pro active a -- pgp key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] O I'd rather play guitar [EMAIL PROTECTED] /|\ 21:24, 20 September 2002 (o--¬ http://new-wales.net / \ Adam Rykala The only difference between diplomacy and treachery is spelling. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rendering tables in HTML
Sh'mae Blarp, On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, at 11:34:34 [GMT -0700] (or 19:34 in Wales) regarding 'Rendering tables in HTML' you wrote: B All, B I get a lot of HTML e-mails that have tables in them. They never look B remotely correct in TB's preview. Generally the first and second rows B look OK but anything beyond that is added to the last row as B additional columns. B I'm not interested in full-blown HTML rendering but do any of the B Beta's improve on this? Try forwarding me one with a gif of how it should look - I'm on 1.62/b5 so I'll tell you a. -- pgp key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] O Guitar players do it louder! [EMAIL PROTECTED] /|\ 20:01, 18 September 2002 (o--¬ http://new-wales.net / \ Adam Rykala If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man. - Mark Twain Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Images
Sh'mae Mark, On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, at 14:18:42 [GMT -0400] (or 19:18 in Wales) regarding 'Images' you wrote: ME A question. When I get an HTMl email with a picture that links to a ME web site, the picture shows up as a red x. Any way to actually see ME the picture? Its a security feature to disable web-bugs and the like that use particular images to be able to track whether emails have been opened. You would have to double click the attachment to open it.. a -- pgp key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] O Guitar players do it louder! [EMAIL PROTECTED] /|\ 20:03, 18 September 2002 (o--¬ http://new-wales.net / \ Adam Rykala You can tell the quality of a person by how they treat people they don't need. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delete command does not work
Sh'mae reclutamiento, On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, at 16:49:35 [GMT -0400] (or 21:49 in Wales) regarding 'Delete command does not work' you wrote: rsn Delete command does not work. It seems frozen?? rsn Any idea or Help would appreciated. This is the second time it happens rsn in less than 2 months. You haved parked a message have you? It would have a P in a blue box next to it -- pgp key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] O Guitar players do it louder! [EMAIL PROTECTED] /|\ 17 September 2002 (o--¬ 21:49 http://new-wales.net / \ Adam Rykala This is the nineties, you don't just go around punching people. You have to say something cool first. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled attachments
Quoting Thomas F. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Adam, AR I haven't seen it, and I send and receive a lot of mail and a LOT AR of attachments. Maybe someone can send you the file. Yeah thats not a bad idea. Use the email address in my sig... a -- [ Adam Rykala ] [ www.new-wales.net ] [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - pgp private key] -- the [new-wales] project - http://www.new-wales.net Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled attachments
Quoting Thomas F. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Adam, AR There MUST be a common thread here! The common thread here is that it will happen to anybody who cares to try it out with the files that Eddy sends. It has nothing to do with hardware. Try it out yourself. ;-) As the man said, Bring it on ;-) a Actually send me the files to this account, then when I've done that, I'll give you another account to try... a -- [ Adam Rykala ] [ www.new-wales.net ] [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - pgp private key] -- the [new-wales] project - http://www.new-wales.net Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Mangled attachments
Hi guys Great idea putting the message store in a zip - a suggestion though. Is there anyone who can set up an auto responder that sens out the one message with the corrupt image...? Mainly because I want to see if there is a difference between the message store version and a forwarded one - I want to see if we can isolate the way it is being written to store... As you all know, virus checkers et al monitor file accesses, (and viruses too ;0( ) and I want to see if we cn at least isolate the obvious ones... I want to see what happens on my machine between opening the two different versions... As you can tell, I'm on my webmail client at the moment but I'll be back home at about 1pm BST - will test this afternoon! a -- [ Adam Rykala ] [ www.new-wales.net ] [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - pgp private key] -- the [new-wales] project - http://www.new-wales.net Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled attachments
Sh'mae Eddy, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 15:38:37 [GMT -0400] (or 20:38 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: E On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 1:36:01 PM, Dwight wrote: DAC On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 12:26:55 PM, Eddy wrote: E Several TB! users have verified my claims after I sent them my Test E mailbox that contains 2 messages which are corrupt when viewed/saved E by TB! but are fine when forwarded to others. E Eddy Tried swapping out your ram? You may have a dodgy chip somewhere? a. -- 12 September 2002, 21:35 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X When Gerber first started selling baby food in Africa, they used the same packaging as here in the USA - with the cute baby on the label. Later they found out that in Africa, companies routinely put pictures on the label of what's inside since most people can't read. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled attachments
Sh'mae Technology, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 17:25:21 [GMT -0400] (or 22:25 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ... A Tried swapping out your ram? You may have a dodgy chip somewhere? BBTE A Adam ... BBTE Everyone who has this problem has bad memory? And I have bad memory on BBTE THREE computers? And the problem doesn't manifest itself with any BBTE other e-mail program? (Not even with that inferior thing Microsoft BBTE ships.) Tell you what, rather then just knocking me back like that. Take your main machine it happens with and try it. FYI I'm a Senior Support guy and the first thing I teach my staff under me is to attack a problem from all likely angles. ANd you say its impossible to have bad ram on three computers - no not impossible. Unlikely, but not impossible. Remove the impossible and whatever is left, even the unlikely - must be suspected. I've seen stranger things that happen. Lets look at what you've said. Attachments come in and on those machines they seem corrupted. JPG's show some file corruption within them right? Documents don't open. Therefore something isn't being read from message store correctly. Seeing as (IIRC) you're storing attachments with the message in the store its safe to assume that for some reason the decoding of the attachment from store is not going right. I said that I suspect a) Its being corrupted in memory as the attachment is being reconstructed. Because its obvious (as other people can read your attachments when forwarded) that the deconstruction process is going wrong. If they are stored in the message base coded then there is no real reconstruction going on in forwarding them - they are merely block copied and sent out. Also you mentioned ZA and mail checking - well I had to rebuild an exchange server with a 12gb database because a virus checker was silently corrupting attachments due to what is called (oh how I laugh) Known Issues So any software that sits between you and the mail store is also suspect. Mainly because the process of checking goes on (1) when writing the message to store and (2) retrieving from store. So there are several angles to try. Me - I'd isolate the easy ones first. Change the RAM - try it. Still the same? then strike ram from it. Check to remove overheating from the equation. Many people just slam in any old RAM into their PC's without a second thought for the issues. Mismatching RAM is a big troublemaker If you have three machines then strip one down to windows and TB!. Remove all extraneous software from it. You may, for example, have an esoteric bit of software that conflicts. a. -- 12 September 2002, 22:32 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X My opinion is neither copyrighted nor trademarked, and it's price competitive. If you like, I'll trade for one of yours. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled attachments
Sh'mae Technology, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 17:25:21 [GMT -0400] (or 22:25 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ... A Tried swapping out your ram? You may have a dodgy chip somewhere? BBTE A Adam ... BBTE Everyone who has this problem has bad memory? And I have bad memory on BBTE THREE computers? And the problem doesn't manifest itself with any BBTE other e-mail program? (Not even with that inferior thing Microsoft BBTE ships.) BBTE I don't think so . Perhaps everybody who has this problem does have mismatched memory - because I don't see a lot of other people suffering from it. I haven't seen it, and I send and receive a lot of mail and a LOT of attachments. But. try this. Export the messages from TB! into *another* mail client. Mozilla/OE/Calypso whatever verify they open or not Export them back repeat.. What gives? Got an IMAP server? Then copy them to that and repeat. a -- 12 September 2002, 22:56 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X Life is a sexually transmitted disease. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled attachments
Sh'mae Mark, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 15:04:08 [GMT -0700] (or 23:04 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: MB Hello Marck, MB Thursday, September 12, 2002, 5:44:34 AM, you wrote: MB I've seen corruption of various file types. MB Forwarding/redirecting the corrupt files back to myself results MB in the files fixing themselves. MDP I think you've missed the point. Are you using NAV? Some other MDP real-time POP3 virus scanner? MB I'm using NAV 2002, and NIS2002. I just recently switched to TB! from MB PMMail2000 Pro. About a month ago. In all my years using PMMail2000, MB never had a problem with corrupt attachments. Only thing I changed was MB my email client. Obviously then you all share a common theme - and so far there's little to go on. Why not register for a free account at www.myrealbox.com - as they have imap access. Worth trying the copy back and forth from imap to test? a -- 12 September 2002, 23:05 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X You've heard about the computer programmer that died while washing his hair in the shower. The instructions said, 'Lather, rinse, repeat.' Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled attachments
Sh'mae Mark, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 15:04:08 [GMT -0700] (or 23:04 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: MB Hello Marck, MB Thursday, September 12, 2002, 5:44:34 AM, you wrote: MB I'm using NAV 2002, and NIS2002. I just recently switched to TB! from MB PMMail2000 Pro. About a month ago. In all my years using PMMail2000, MB never had a problem with corrupt attachments. Only thing I changed was MB my email client. The other thing that crosses my mind is filesystem - obviously you're on Win98 and other people are on Winxp or whatever? You all using fat32? Large disk? a -- 12 September 2002, 23:07 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X 31.69 nHz = once a year. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled attachments
Sh'mae Eddy, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:09:44 [GMT -0400] (or 23:09 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: E On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 4:36:21 PM, Adam wrote: E Several TB! users have verified my claims after I sent them my Test E mailbox that contains 2 messages which are corrupt when viewed/saved E by TB! but are fine when forwarded to others. AR Tried swapping out your ram? You may have a dodgy chip somewhere? E I guarantee to five-9's that this isn't a hardware problem. I have had E this same problem since the TB! 1.53 days, and that was two E motherboards/CPUs ago! Notice I said may - it was merely a base check. E Within 24 hours I had a corrupt attachment in my Inbox. E All the evidence I have encountered seem to point to a problem with how TB! E is processing attachments after they are received. Or some sort of DLL conflict. I've posted another message with some questions - can you answer them and see if there is some sort of common ground we can look at. Its odd how a lot of people don't see this, and those WHO DO see it can forward to those who don't and it works. There's a common theme somewhere - all we need to do is find it. a. -- 12 September 2002, 23:16 (`-''-/).___..--''`-._ Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) http://new-wales.net | (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' Adam Rykala http://new-wales.net | (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' pgp key - pgp.arykalanew-wales.net | You are here: X Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled attachments
Sh'mae Technology, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:23:19 [GMT -0400] (or 23:23 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ... A a) Its being corrupted in memory as the attachment is being reconstructed. BBTE Agreed, but would it not have the same effect when the message is BBTE being reconstructed in Eudora, Outlook, Outlook Express, Pegasus, BBTE Netscape Maill, or SOME other program? I have never seen one of these BBTE programs corrupt an attachment. If memory was the problem, wouldn't I BBTE see some evidence of it in other programs? Wouldn't I see BSODs on a BBTE regular basis? Perhaps, perhaps not. The problem might lie in a support DLL that TB! uses that is being supersedeb by a newer one in the WIn directory... If it sounds like I'm pulling solutions out of my backside, its because I'm trying to see all sides of this to spot a common thread for a clue. I've just had to rebuild one machine in work that was being used in Test Equipment that would BSOD on ONE APP only - turns out it was mismatched memory. replaced a DIMM and the machine has been sweet... I did say MAY mind! As in, have you removed it as a suspect - obviously so. BBTE I agree absolutely that it's probably happening when the attachment is BBTE being reconstructed, but if it's bad memory, would the same image fail in BBTE the same way every single time? I would mention overheating/clocking but that looks like its also out to. BBTE But once an image fails, it always fails. If an image is good, it's BBTE always good. BBTE I'm really not trying to knock you back or to be a smart ass, but BBTE I'm not about to take apart three computers (or even one) on what BBTE looks to me like a wild goose chase. Rather then take one apart - I suggested just opening one and swapping RAM round. When faced with a situation that I can't explain I tend to go right back to basics. Mainly because sometimes it gives you a clue to the real problem. BBTE Both ZA and NAV were out of the picture when I received a fax BBTE attachment earlier today -- it was corrupt. Fortunately my jFax BBTE account is set to leave mail on the server, so I retrieved the BBTE attachment with Eudora -- no problem. Can you try the export-import thingy? I haven't been able to replicate this problem with the few computers I have here which is odd. Its a conflict of sorts, but where? BBTE NAV and ZA were on all 3 machines (different versions). Except for that, BBTE running apps and processes differ quite a bit. Removing ZA and NAV had no BBTE effect, as others have already said. Any other odd software - is one particularly clean or particularly app-laden? Does one get a lot of install/de-install. DLL hell is a bitch to diagnose... a. -- | 12 September 2002, 23:25 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request Antivir scanned mail | It might look like I'm doing nothing, but at the cellular level I'm really quite busy. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled attachments
Sh'mae Technology, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:29:01 [GMT -0400] (or 23:29 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ... A The other thing that crosses my mind is filesystem - obviously you're on Win98 A and other people are on Winxp or whatever? A You all using fat32? Large disk? BBTE I'm on XP. Wouldn't use FAT32 on a dare. All affected systems are BBTE NTFS. All are Seagate drives -- ranging from 7200RPM EIDE to 15000RPM BBTE SCSI. No significant fragmentation thanks to Diskkeeper. No evidence BBTE of impending hardware failure. Same here but SCSI drives, IBM. SO SCSI is out and NTFS is out. Ok keep narrowing the focus ;-) TB! on C drive or another drive? Spaces in folder name (here its d:\TheBat) Only real DLL in the folder are the PGP ones (present) and the Spell Checker. So DLL hell is possibly out as it looks like TB! is pretty self contained (and I got out of programming 10 years ago!!) Write caching on or off? Ultra DMA on? (possibility of some conflict between TB! and something?_) Is there any software on your machine between mail and client? Firewall's, Popup blockers, etc...? There MUST be a common thread here! a. -- | 12 September 2002, 23:32 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request Antivir scanned mail | Then you are cast into the Gorge of Eternal Peril. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled messages
Sh'mae Technology, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:33:46 [GMT -0400] (or 23:33 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled messages' you wrote: BBTEHow do I tell. A failed attachment had this header: Account Properties - Files and Directories a. -- | 12 September 2002, 23:37 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request Antivir scanned mail | Okay, Okay, so you won't go out with me unless I was the last man on earth ... what if you were a purple frog and I was a green cow? Okay , still no What if I had wings, too ? Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mangled messages
Sh'mae Technology, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:33:46 [GMT -0400] (or 23:33 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled messages' you wrote: Bill Do you run your own mail server - and if so, can you read through your logs in case anything untoward there,,? Just another random thought? a I'm going to sleep on this now. Work tomorrow. Will do some research and try to see if anything pops up as likely -- | 12 September 2002, 23:43 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request Antivir scanned mail | For a while I didn't have a car...I had a helicopter...no place to park it, so I just tied it to a lamp post and left it running... [slow glance upward] Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
Sh'mae Nick, On Sun, 08 Sep 2002, at 14:07:20 [GMT -0700] (or 22:07 in Wales) regarding 'AVG virus checker and TB' you wrote: NA Hello Adam Rykala, NA On Sunday, September 08 2002 at 08:45 AM PDT, you wrote: And if you mean turning TB! into OE then ugghhh. NA No, the only one mentioning OE was you. ;o) What he was inquiring about NA is the NewsReader Plugin... no more... no less. ;o) Thats ok then...shiver Anyway, I use XNews and I can't see me changing unless TB!'s newsreader plugin is phenomenal a -- 09 September 2002, 18:06 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. (Abraham Lincoln) Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
Sh'mae Jim, On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 10:54:30 [GMT +0100] (or 10:54 in Wales) regarding 'AVG virus checker and TB' you wrote: JL Hello , JL Just installed TB and have found it to excellent (this from OE). I JL would like to continue using AVG virus checker for my E-mail and JL cannot find a way to do this. Help or advice on another Virus JL checker would be gratefully received. Avg do provide a plug in from their website. Note however that the plugin does not certify email messages - hence no adverts on your emails. However it does full email checking and notification... http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm?session=3f43b5719b5a5a5bc16d3aed490da6c1 a -- 08 September 2002, 12:37 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X God put me on this Earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now, I am so far behind I will never die. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG virus checker and TB
Sh'mae Ben, On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 13:29:52 [GMT +0100] (or 13:29 in Wales) regarding 'AVG virus checker and TB' you wrote: BK ...I think perfect is a bit too far! Where is TBs newgroup support? BK What about the Expand/Collapse All Threads command? And what about BK the transparent mail ticker support? BK ;) If you mean wheres TB!'s newsgroup, then being a fequent user of newsgroups I think its best it kept off it!!! And if you mean turning TB! into OE then ugghhh. Xnews is the best newsreader for people used to TB! IMHO a -- 08 September 2002, 16:43 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X And Winter gave Spring and Summer a miss and went straight on into Autumn. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: W2K to XP Pro
Sh'mae Pete, On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 08:35:45 [GMT -0600] (or 15:35 in Wales) regarding 'W2K to XP Pro' you wrote: PM Before we get moved to TBOT, tell me why you think it would be a downgrade, PM trust me...I am all ears! XP's been right as rain for me, in fact I don't know too many people having problems with it... Mind you, it is hefty - is your machine up to it -- 08 September 2002, 17:55 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X I got a new shadow. I had to get rid of the other one -- it wasn't doing what I was doing. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: XP SP1
Sh'mae DG, On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 15:24:56 [GMT -0400] (or 20:24 in Wales) regarding 'OT: XP SP1' you wrote: DRS It was always there, in any version of Windows, 9x, 2000 and XP. Simply DRS open Internet Explorer, select Internet Options and further Programs then DRS utilize the drop down list, after you install The_Bat!, and select the DRS appropriate default email program. DRS This is NOT new in XP's Service Pack 1. Or right click on XP's start button with the new menu, do properties It can be altered there too a -- 08 September 2002, 23:47 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X 'Did you sleep well?' 'No, I made a couple of mistakes.' - Steve Wright Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: W2K to XP Pro
Sh'mae Pete, On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, at 14:22:38 [GMT -0600] (or 21:22 in Wales) regarding 'W2K to XP Pro' you wrote: PM Replying to your message of Sunday, September 8, 2002, 10:55:47 AM: AR Mind you, it is hefty - is your machine up to it PM 1.4GHz, 512 DDR should handle it. Oh yeah! (2 x PIII 450 and 640mb here) a -- 08 September 2002, 23:55 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X I woke up one morning and looked around the room. Something wasn't right. I realized that someone had broken in the night before and replaced everything in my apartment with an exact replica. I couldn't believe it... I got my roommate and showed him. I said, Look at this--everything's been replaced with an exact replica! He said, Do I know you? Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is the TBUDL info page down...
Sh'mae tbudl, Can't get to it myself? I'm emailing a friend whose evaluating the Bat! and I can't get to the page myself! a. -- 08 September 2002, 23:56 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X We have to belive in free will. We have no choice. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB! Info site
Sh'mae tbudl, Some more info This is my traceroute results from SamSpade Personal 09/09/02 00:00:26 Fast traceroute www.silverstones.com Trace www.silverstones.com (195.112.37.189) ... 1 192.168.0.1 0ms0ms0ms TTL: 0 (server.new-wales.dnsalias.net ok) 2 192.168.254.2 163ms 147ms 147ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 3 192.168.253.6 162ms 152ms 156ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 4 62.252.192.81 160ms 141ms 166ms TTL: 0 (man-pam1-b-fa11.inet.ntl.com ok) 5 213.104.242.165 163ms 149ms 152ms TTL: 0 (man-t2core-b-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com ok) 6 62.253.184.61 152ms 148ms 144ms TTL: 0 (man-bb-b-so-210-0.inet.ntl.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS) 7 62.253.185.138 150ms 155ms 143ms TTL: 0 (win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS) 8 213.105.172.130 177ms 154ms 160ms TTL: 0 (gfd-bb-b-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS) 9 62.253.185.74 156ms 152ms 156ms TTL: 0 (linx-ic-2-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com probable bogus rDNS: No DNS) 10 195.66.226.59 176ms 152ms 213ms TTL: 0 (lon1-10.nildram.net fraudulent rDNS) 11 195.149.20.130 164ms 157ms 159ms TTL: 0 (lon1-9.nildram.net fraudulent rDNS) 12 195.149.20.210 174ms 145ms 148ms TTL: 0 (lon-border-1.bucks.net fraudulent rDNS) 13 195.112.37.29 174ms 164ms 167ms TTL: 0 (lon-backbone-2.bucks.net fraudulent rDNS) 14 195.112.45.26 157ms 173ms 151ms TTL: 0 (lon-core-1.bucks.net ok) 15 195.112.45.30 166ms 152ms 170ms TTL: 0 (lon-backbone-1-e0.bucks.net ok) 16 195.112.37.26 174ms 162ms 165ms TTL: 0 (ayl-backbone-1-hdlc0.bucks.net ok) 17 195.112.45.162 167ms 155ms 164ms TTL: 0 (ayl-core-1.bucks.net ok) Then its all * * * * Is it just me? a. -- 09 September 2002, 00:02 |\ _,,,---,,_ http://new-wales.net | /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' Checked by Antivir Mail Gateway | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) pgp key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | You are here: X Ah, i-- it's not my cross. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Running TB as an NT/ XP service
Sh'mae The, On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, at 20:56:17 [GMT -0700] (or 04:56 in Wales) regarding 'Running TB as an NT/ XP service' you wrote: MW OK. You've convinced me to take another look at Mercury. There's MW obviously some stuff I overlooked before since this is the reason I MW rejected it in the first place. Goody (waits for cheque in post) No i am not on commission (whistles and looks guilty) a ps Seriously though, i am not. -- | 01 September 2002, 11:17 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with attachments being corrupted
Sh'mae Eddy, On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, at 11:07:12 [GMT -0400] (or 16:07 in Wales) regarding 'Problem with attachments being corrupted' you wrote: E On Saturday, August 31, 2002 at 7:40:52 PM Mark Bernard wrote: I recently changed over to TB! from PMMail2000, which I'd been using for years. A fair percentage of the attachments I recieve are now (since switching to TB!) corrupted. I think that the Err#68 is from TB!'s image viewer. E I agree, Mark. E And like Mark, I experience corruption with ALL attachment types, not E just JPEG images. .doc files, .ppt files, .zip files, you name it, it E has come through corrupted at one time or another. And also like Mark, E saving a corrupted JPEG image to disc will _partially_ display in an E external viewer, like ACDSee. At the risk of sounding like an inverse AOL'er, I must say Not me, too. I'm running TB! on Xp and haven't had any attachments corrupt yet, and the nature of my use of email means I send a lot of attachments of multiple forms (.doc, .sdw, .cdr, .zip etc etc) Strange - Mention was made later in the email of Mime encoding - tried uuencoding? Perhaps we can work it out closer by working out what affects you and not me a -- | 01 September 2002, 16:51 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | Cats seem to go on the principle that it never does any harm to ask for what you want. - Joseph Wood Krutch Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Running TB as an NT/ XP service
Sh'mae The, On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, at 10:24:44 [GMT -0700] (or 18:24 in Wales) regarding 'Running TB as an NT/ XP service' you wrote: MW Bats- MW It's not that a standard desktop application should be a good MW candidate for an NT service, but that certain features should. Here's MW my situation: Personally I would suggest you consider something like Mercury/32 as a free mail server with multipop et al. www.pmail.com In essence, I think you're asking a lot of The Bat! to act as server as client. It can be done, but I would suggest going for a dedicated server - and Mercury/32 has some very good press. http://www.pmail.com/newsflash.htm#M332 a -- | 31 August 2002, 18:31 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | I don't have to walk my dog any more. I walked him all at once. He was fun when he was a puppy. I named him Stay. When I'd call him I'd say C'mere Stay C'mere Stay and he'd go like this..(FILL IN THE MOVEMENT YOURSELF). He's a lot smarter than that now. Now when I call him he just ignores me and keeps on typing. Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Urgent Help with Selective Download
Sh'mae The, On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, at 20:54:43 [GMT +0200] (or 19:54 in Wales) regarding 'Urgent Help with Selective Download' you wrote: SP That's a good idea but I've decided to kill all messages with attachments SP that have OE X-mailer header... serves my purpose :) RO That's just as mind blind as an ISP refusing mail with an TB X-Mailer RO header. You're sure you haven't any friends, colleagues, relatives or RO whatever using OE who might send you attachments? Agreed Proper spam fighting works on consent, not content. Blocking solely because its OE isn't really that different from blocking on TB!. a. -- | 31 August 2002, 20:04 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | Gravity isn't MY fault--I voted for velcro! Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Running TB as an NT/ XP service
Sh'mae The, On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, at 13:25:33 [GMT -0700] (or 21:25 in Wales) regarding 'Running TB as an NT/ XP service' you wrote: MW Adam- MW Don't get me wrong here - I have been using TB in exactly this MW situation for a few years now and it works great. Provides local MW interoffice email as well as the client/server functionality I need. I MW *am* making the case for being able to serverize (er...I don't think MW that's a word)some of TB's functionality. Using TB! in this way is fine, but using a client as a server will mean limitations MW The problem with Mercury is that it's strictly a server. I need to MW pick up mail from multiple accounts with multiple ISPs and keep it in MW a central place where the workstations can get to it. That's an MUA MW function and Mercury won't do that. Its a MTA function - lots of mailservers will do that. cf. fetchmail on Linux boxes. I use fetchmail in conjunction with qmail to collect 20+ accounts here MW The only alternative I know of to The Bat running in server mode is MW Microsoft Exchange Server, and I always warn clients that it's clumsy MW and expensive and really requires a full-time system admin to run MW BackOffice and it really should be on its own machine. EXCHANGE...arh I administer an Exchange server in work a! -- | 01 September 2002, 00:13 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | I read the FM, and it didn't work. Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Running TB as an NT/ XP service
Sh'mae The, On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, at 00:12:20 [GMT +0100] (or 00:12 in Wales) regarding 'Running TB as an NT/ XP service' you wrote: AR Does Pegasus Mail support multiple POP3 mailboxes? Yes. AR * Does Pegasus Mail support the IMAP protocol for accessing remote mailboxes? Yes. AR * Can I view pictures attached to mail messages inside Pegasus Mail? Yes - JPG, BMP and GIF. AR * Can I have multiple Pegasus Mail users (e.g, other members of my family) on one computer? Yes. AR * How much does Pegasus Mail cost to register? Nothing - the software is free. You can license AR manuals for the program if you wish, but doing so is optional. Sorry wrong cutpaste from http://www.pmail.com/overviews/ovw_mercwin.htm # Supports incoming mail via either SMTP, or POP3, or even both: Mercury's POP3 client module can retrieve mail from multiple remote POP3 mailboxes and distribute it to local users; it also supports retrieval and distribution of mail from remote Domain Mailboxes. -- | 01 September 2002, 00:23 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | Beta testers who lie! Next time on Geraldo! Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Running TB as an NT/ XP service
Sh'mae The, On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, at 13:25:33 [GMT -0700] (or 21:25 in Wales) regarding 'Running TB as an NT/ XP service' you wrote: Mark Here's a few links in defence of Mercury, which would be my email server of choice if i didn't have my nice dual PPro e-smith box ;-) Mercury can run as an NT Service natively, btw. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~jaabogae/han/m_index.html http://www.nimrais.freeserve.co.uk/mercury/install1.html http://www.chriswillis.com/mercury_mail.htm http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8safe=offgroup=comp.mail.pegasus-mail.misc (full of useful info about mercury and pegasus) a Please note - Contrary to opinion I am not on commission ;-) -- | 01 September 2002, 00:30 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself. (George Bernard Shaw) Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG/TB limitations and issues
Sh'mae The, On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, at 13:49:09 [GMT -0400] (or 18:49 in Wales) regarding 'AVG/TB limitations and issues' you wrote: E I am considering changing my AV program. I noticed these E limitations on the AVG website. Can someone expand on the E ramifications of these statements? Many thanks in advance. E Limitations E Plugin doesn't certify messages due to a nature of the anti-virus plugin E interface of The Bat!. The plugin is called only on message attachments. Do you really want another load of text on the bottom of your emails advertising AVG and certifying to the world what version of the updates you are running? I know people who use AVG who haven't updated it in 6 months and this advertises it to the world. Could be dodgy I use AVG and I don't miss it E Outgoing messages are scanned since a version 1.61 of The Bat! As long as you're using 1.61 then not a problem. E Known issues E Embedded messages are not currently scanned. According to producers of The E Bat!, this problem should be fixed in the version 1.62 of The Bat! Only for mime digests etc, or groups of messages in each other. Though, as it says the new version fixes this. I've thought about changing a few times but AVG works well. Bear in mind though, I am lucky to have a local mail server with a different package for a belt and braces approach. Personally... i think the limitations are minor. Your mileage may vary, of course! A -- | 30 August 2002, 19:02 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | I hate my cubicle! Hey! I CAN knock these walls over Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AVG/TB limitations and issues
Sh'mae The, On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, at 14:31:28 [GMT -0400] (or 19:31 in Wales) regarding 'AVG/TB limitations and issues' you wrote: E Thanks, Adam. I am not interested in the E advertisement-certification feature grin so that was not a E problem. I am using 1.60c -- that does concern me about the E plug-in. I haven't upgraded because it taint broke and so I E wasn't interested in fixing it. I received a *lot* of private E OE mail from subscribers to my mailing lists, often infected, my E current AV and TB are fending them off nicely. I don't think I E can trust my cable mail server for protection. Is the fact that E I am not using 1.61 a requirement here? I wouldn't say a requirement but I certainly haven't found anything broke here when going from 1.60 to 1.61. Have a nose at the changelog to see if anything affects you! a. -- | 30 August 2002, 20:38 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | Debate politics with a fern. If you lose, refuse to water it. Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Closing the programme; address book and groups
Sh'mae The, On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, at 20:50:18 [GMT +0100] (or 20:50 in Wales) regarding 'Closing the programme; address book and groups' you wrote: PZJ Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PZJ Hi TBUDL, PZJ I've started using The Bat, and am tempted to migrate fully from PZJ Outlook. But... there are one or two things puzzling and troubling PZJ me. Perhaps you can help. Im an Outlook migratee! PZJ 1 The programme doesn't close when clicked on the usual X in the top right PZJ corner. MM sounds odd - sounds like a bug - is it perhaps fetching mail when you do that? PZJ 2 I'd like to set up some Groups, and can't find ways to: Right click on each entry and select properties, you can set the group there a. -- | 30 August 2002, 21:01 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | There's a pizza place near where I live that sells only slices... in the back you can see a guy tossing a triangle in the air... Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: (OT) Suggestion for abuser
Quoting Alaeddin Muntasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, This is not directly related to this list but it is e-mail related. Someone is using my e-mail account to send out viruses to a bunch of people. He is only showing my e-mail address as the sender it does not seem like he has my password. Anything I can do about this? Not really as viruses such as Klez forge from: addresses from other people, or from email addresses on web pages that people visit. All you can hope for is to send a boilerplate response pointing this out. Also the bounced messages from server who detect this virus send it back to me with the infected attachments and my virus protection deletes my whole messages.tbb file. Suggestions? Yes - change your virus software. There is no way it should be wiping that file out! I use AVG and it is intelligent enough to let the AV plugin for the Bat! handle it. What are you using for AV? A -- Best, Alaeddin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 on Windows2000 SP3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- [ Adam Rykala ] [ www.new-wales.net ] [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - pgp private key] -- the [new-wales] project - http://www.new-wales.net Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beginners List
Sh'mae The, On Sat, 24 Aug 2002, at 07:04:46 [GMT -0700] (or 15:04 in Wales) regarding 'Beginners List' you wrote: LT Cheap at the price, though ... when I found it I promptly LT bought enough licenses for the whole family .. and even my LT non-geek brother uses it. I didn't have to strong-arm even LT one of them! LT Free is only a good price if the product is what you LT want. LT Lynn A phrase I heard which I like is whatever is only free if your time is worthless. i.e sometimes with the free stuff you spend a lot of time trying to get it to work. It doesn't always apply, but to OE - well no comment. Saying that mind, Mozilla Mail isn't too bad, and Calypso is ok. A -- | 26 August 2002, 17:13 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | God is real... unless declared an integer. Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: After updating AntivirPE antivirus-plugin stopped working
Sh'mae The, On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, at 11:27:44 [GMT +0200] (or 10:27 in Wales) regarding 'After updating AntivirPE antivirus-plugin stopped working' you wrote: H Hi, H After installing the latest update for Antivir-PE the antivirus-plugin H stopped working. I hope that plugin will be updated soon also. Im running the AV MailGate server here and its all running aok so its not the definitions side as they are the same - check to see if the update screwed up an executable somewhere A -- | 25 August 2002, 10:33 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | Alex, I'll take 'Things Only I Know' for $200 Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: After updating AntivirPE antivirus-plugin stopped working
Sh'mae The, On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, at 11:55:02 [GMT +0200] (or 10:55 in Wales) regarding 'After updating AntivirPE antivirus-plugin stopped working' you wrote: H Antivir updates (automatic internet update) always the whole program H but this time it de-installed the old program and after restarting H windows it installed the new program. H So it's completely fresh. H And as you say: It's not because the definitions got updated. It's the H new version of the program that's the cause! Tried manually downloading and install the update from www.antivir.de? A -- | 25 August 2002, 11:13 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://new-wales.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key Request | Let's face the obvious. Yesterday we were nerds. Today we're the cognitive elite. Let's conquer. - Chester G. Edwards Email traffic scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML...
Sh'mae Thomas, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 11:16:43 [GMT +0700] (05:16 where I live) you wrote: TF Hello Adam, TF Could you describe in a few words what Proxomitron is and does? Yeah Its a proxy that kills ads, malicious javascript and stuff that like - consider it a sanitiser for HTMl. You install it, point your web browser to use it as a proxy and it cleans the html up in passing through proxomitron.cjb.net as i recall is the website for it A -- :[: a new-wales - http://www.new-wales.net :]: :[: Adam Rykala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Public key - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: 20 August 2002, 12:52 :[: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :]: Crime doesn't pay, but the hours are good. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: For those of you who like silly noises
Sh'mae Ochrid, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 12:33:57 [GMT +0200] (11:33 where I live) you wrote: O Yes, but this one seems to have the same sound effects: O http://www.cs.northwestern.edu/~beim/eudora/eudora-alert-sounds.html Yep its the same site. MMM odd that, I was there a couple of days ago downloading stuff A -- :[: a new-wales - http://www.new-wales.net :]: :[: Adam Rykala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Public key - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: 20 August 2002, 13:09 :[: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :]: 666A, 666B - Tenants of the beast. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Take the bat to linux (offical linux bat thread).
Sh'mae Jakob, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 15:46:08 [GMT +0200] (14:46 where I live) you wrote: JBG The question is - will RIT Labs be able to release anything under an Open JBG Source licence? JBG How 'official' is this thread anyways? Linux packages do not have to be open source - they can be closed too. -- :[: a new-wales - http://www.new-wales.net :]: :[: Adam Rykala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Public key - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: 20 August 2002, 14:52 :[: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :]: On Sears hairdryer: Do not use while sleeping. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Sh'mae Daniel, On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 16:22:45 [GMT -0400] (21:22 where I live) you wrote: DG Thanks very much Elaine. DG -- Dan DG Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:40:24[GMT -0400] (2:40 PM EDST) you wrote: Bring up the message, use control/F and control/L for subsequent finds. Elaine Hello Daniel On Monday, August 19, 2002, you wrote Is there a way to search for a text pattern within a message? What I'm looking for would be something like the Find/Find Next capability of WordPad. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html DG Using The Bat! v1.60q/Post3 DG on Windows 95 4.0 Build B Just to show you what top-posting looks like with poor quoting and sig delimiters, I've just hit reply to show you what it looks like.. Answer Question Answer Question Dan, you may want to fix your sig delimiter, so at least some of the damage is repaired its dashdashspaceENTER A -- . - .. - - - - - - - - - - - - /Adam \__/ Rykala - - - - - - / / \ (. .) / - - - - - / / / / / / / \/ \ - - - - / / / / / / /: : - - - / / // / ' ' - - :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: / / PGP Public key / / .. \ \ :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: =UU==UU= :: 19 August 2002, 21:27 :: '/ / /||\ \ \':: http://new-wales.net :: ' '' ' :: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :: Be careful with water -- it's full of hydrogen and oxygen! Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Sh'mae ETM, On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 16:45:43 [GMT -0400] (21:45 where I live) you wrote: E Hello Adam E I had to take a break from the list when this subject came up again and E again and again. Maybe instructions for new posters should be posted every E AM/24/7. The sad fact is, its normal email etiquette...exacerbated by poor email clients that do not bottom post by default. -- . - .. - - - - - - - - - - - - /Adam \__/ Rykala - - - - - - / / \ (. .) / - - - - - / / / / / / / \/ \ - - - - / / / / / / /: : - - - / / // / ' ' - - :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: / / PGP Public key / / .. \ \ :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: =UU==UU= :: 19 August 2002, 22:27 :: '/ / /||\ \ \':: http://new-wales.net :: ' '' ' :: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :: The next time we elect a president, for God's sake can we do a background check? David Letterman Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
For those of you who like silly noises
Sh'mae tbudl, http://wso.williams.edu/~eudora/eudora-alert-sounds.html has a nice collection of sounds for new mail - PLUS some nice ones for SPAM announcement. As a result I now have Homer Simpson running to the mailbox with new mail, plus a You've got SPAM! vocie when email comes in from someone not in my address book. Though what really cracked my wife up is the sound I put on my Submit to Spamcop filter. I DONT LIKE SPAM (from the Monty Python spam,spam,spam sketch!) enjoy! A -- . - .. - - - - - - - - - - - - /Adam \__/ Rykala - - - - - - / / \ (. .) / - - - - - / / / / / / / \/ \ - - - - / / / / / / /: : - - - / / // / ' ' - - :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: / / PGP Public key / / .. \ \ :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: =UU==UU= :: 19 August 2002, 23:19 :: '/ / /||\ \ \':: http://new-wales.net :: ' '' ' :: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :: One day, lad, all this will be yours! What, the curtains? Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Sh'mae Arjan, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 02:30:13 [GMT +0200] (01:30 where I live) you wrote: AdG In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Rykala wrote: The sad fact is, its normal email etiquette...exacerbated by poor email clients that do not bottom post by default. AdG Your .sig is too long. AdG Arjan Your quoting is excessive -- :[: a new-wales - http://www.new-wales.net :]: :[: Adam Rykala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Public key - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :]: ::20 August 2002, 02:28:: There are two ways to write error-free programs. Only the third one works. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Sh'mae Marck, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 02:36:38 [GMT +0100] (02:36 where I live) you wrote: MDP Hi Adam, MDP moderator ... and it's my job to make either of these points. MDP Please take it off list or risk a banning. MDP I'll have no public brawls - I thank you :-). MDP /moderator Just me? I notice only I get the warning? -- [20 August 2002, 02:42] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Searching within a message,
Sh'mae Arjan, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 02:30:13 [GMT +0200] (01:30 where I live) you wrote: AdG In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Rykala wrote: AdG Your .sig is too long. AdG Arjan Corrected Thats what you get for storing your sig in quick templates and renaming the wrong ones ;-) A -- [20 August 2002, 02:43] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML...
Sh'mae tbudl, Seeing as there is a lot of light and heat generated about HTML, anyone else using Proxomitron on their windows boxes to kill ads and stuff? A -- [20 August 2002, 03:14] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML...
Sh'mae Ricardo, On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, at 23:30:38 [GMT -0300] (03:30 where I live) you wrote: RMR yes, I do. And when I use IE instead of Opera, IE connects directly RMR without Proxomitron, and I can't believe the amount of garbage I avoid RMR using it :) Do you think there is any point of pushing TB! developers towards this - or some similar system for rendering HTML? Much as I despise HTML mail there is a great demand for it from some people - and if we have to have it, a nice package behind it verifying and validating it would be great. Basically seeing how anally-retentive TB! is in rendering received HTML, it would be very nice to see it do that magic on sent HTML. Then I wouldn't feel so nervous about it. And why am I nervous. I admin (in the loosest sense of the word, as it is with that package) 500 Exchange users. With Outlook. ugh -- :[: a new-wales - http://www.new-wales.net :]: :[: Adam Rykala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Public key - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: 20 August 2002, 03:31 :[: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :]: My grandfather invented Cliff's Notes. It all started back in 1912 ... well, to make a long story short ... Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig's
Sh'mae Marck, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 03:59:22 [GMT +0100] (03:59 where I live) you wrote: MDP Hi Adam, MDP @20-Aug-2002, 03:29 +0100 Adam Rykala [AR] in MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MDP ... but it was a particularly attractive example ;-). Please feel MDP free to use it whenever you write to me privately g. Courtesy of my addiction to alt.ascii.art. There are worse addictions in life, but I can't think of them right now.. A -- :[: a new-wales - http://www.new-wales.net :]: :[: Adam Rykala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Public key - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: 20 August 2002, 04:02 :[: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :]: You know you're obsessed with computer graphics when you're outside and you look up at the trees and think, Wow! That's spectacular resolution! Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML...
Sh'mae Ricardo, On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, at 00:52:20 [GMT -0300] (04:52 where I live) you wrote: RMR actually, I use Proxomitron to control popups, ads, and only a few RMR javascript, and those are controls that I think don't apply to email. RMR So I don't see them as posible features. Unfortunately more and more spam is using webbugs, popups, cookies and javascript obfuscation to try and get us to buy their organ enhancing creams. Thats why I like The Bat! A lovely Spamcop report filter (and may I add a million thanks to whoever wrote that!!! - it now has a nice Monty Python but I don't like spam! sound too) and the ability to defeat all those little iFrame type nasties too. RMR about the render engine, I actually think it should be a bit less RMR 'anally-retentive', because although I hate html mail, if those RMR inferior creatures out there want to use it their mails, I'd like to RMR see what they want to say :) This is in particular about the request RMR of on-line images, I don't want to see javasscript, vbscript or RMR any-script implemented in TB. Actually I've never ever had a problem with images with it. Only if they're webbug type images that point somewhere else are they missing - and that suits me fine! A friend and I recently had a challenge of photoshopping each other into movie posters and the like and The Bat! shows his images just fine. -- :[: a new-wales - http://www.new-wales.net :]: :[: Adam Rykala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: :[: Public key - [EMAIL PROTECTED] :]: 20 August 2002, 04:52 :[: Emails in and out scanned with AntiVir Mail Gateway for Linux :]: A morning without coffee is like something without something else. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML messages
Sh'mae Alaeddin, On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, at 11:32:02 [GMT +0400] (08:32 where I live) you wrote: AM Why is this bad for some people? Just out of curiosity. Its seen as a security issue - an HTML rendered would need to be tightly written to avoid being as full of security holes as OE, for example. A [ Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. - Rich Cook ] -- [18 August 2002, 10:55] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
Sh'mae FJ, On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, at 11:41:14 [GMT +0200] (10:41 where I live) you wrote: FdB Hello Marck, FdB Instead of using the dogma 'top quoting is always hideous', I judge a FdB message on its understandability. I find that, especially in longer FdB threads, in-line quoting leads to an abundance of subthreads inside FdB the messages. A top-quoted summary can help to seperate distractions FdB from the main topic and to refocus the discussion. Without appearing to seem rude Read what Marck was saying, it's not what YOU or I want, its what the recipient wants - and in this case its the list. Besides, if you top quote with a signature delimiter, the next reply snips all the old post - losing all context whatsoever. All a top quoted summary succeeds in doing is summed up as A: Because the answer follows a question. Q: Why not top post? A -- 10 August 2002, 10:48 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
Sh'mae FJ, On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, at 11:41:14 [GMT +0200] (10:41 where I live) you wrote: FdB Instead of using the dogma 'top quoting is always hideous', I judge a FdB message on its understandability. I find that, especially in longer FdB threads, in-line quoting leads to an abundance of subthreads inside FdB the messages. A top-quoted summary can help to seperate distractions FdB from the main topic and to refocus the discussion. FdB Frank Something the whole list may find handy http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bambenek-posting-guidelines-02.txt A -- 10 August 2002, 10:54 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Don't vote. You'll only encourage them. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
Sh'mae FJ, On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, at 12:12:07 [GMT +0200] (11:12 where I live) you wrote: FdB Hello Adam, FdB Saturday, August 10, 2002, 11:51:10 AM, you wrote: FdB In a later email you refer to FdB http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bambenek-posting-guidelines-02.txt FdB I find that point 6 of this reference is actually argueing my case. Indeed perhaps it may, but only in short bursts. Try a 20 reply thread. A -- 10 August 2002, 11:13 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Programming graphics in X is like finding sqrt(pi) using Roman numerals. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
Sh'mae Miguel, On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, at 12:06:22 [GMT +0200] (11:06 where I live) you wrote: MAU Hello Adam, Besides, if you top quote with a signature delimiter, the next reply snips all the old post - losing all context whatsoever. MAU Right. Snipping everything past the -- signature delimiter is a MAU nice feature of TB (BTW, I think it should be an option in MAU preferences). And Threading by Reference is another nice feature of TB MAU which, BTW, allows you to maintain context, or doesn't it? Some of us do not use threading by context - case in point. A 20 reply thread gets a new reply. Its a major PITA to get to the end of it in ANY email reader as far as I am concerned, so I sort by date received. And besides, no one answer my question raised by A: Because the answer should follow the question. Q: Why be against top posting? -- 10 August 2002, 11:14 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 'How can we have a Y2K problem in a country with both Microsoft and Intel?' - Al Gore, Vanity Fair, Jan, 1999 All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
Sh'mae FJ, On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, at 12:12:07 [GMT +0200] (11:12 where I live) you wrote: FdB Hello Adam, FdB Saturday, August 10, 2002, 11:51:10 AM, you wrote: AR Without appearing to seem rude AR AR Read what Marck was saying, it's not what YOU or I want, its what the AR recipient wants - and in this case its the list. FdB I read what Marck said. He said that top-quoting is hideous and that FdB an author should be led by the convenience of the recipient. I FdB responded in my capacity of a recipient, so it is about what I want. So, in essence, all of Internet etiquette goes out of the window? The recipient in this case is TBUDL, not you or I. FdB In a later email you refer to FdB http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bambenek-posting-guidelines-02.txt FdB I find that point 6 of this reference is actually argueing my case. As I said, top posting may only work in QUESTION-ANSWER cases, but in threads it's nothing short of an abomination. A -- 10 August 2002, 11:16 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] When they broke open molecules, they found they were only stuffed with atoms. But when they broke open atoms, they found them stuffed with explosions. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
Sh'mae FJ, On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, at 12:12:07 [GMT +0200] (11:12 where I live) you wrote: FdB Hello Adam, FdB Saturday, August 10, 2002, 11:51:10 AM, you wrote: FdB I find that point 6 of this reference is actually argueing my case. A snippet taken from http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html Why should I place my response below the quoted text? Usually, the reading-flow is from left to right and from top to bottom, and people expect a chronological sequence similar to this. Especially people who are reading a lot of articles (and who therefore would qualify as the ideal person to answer your question) appreciate it if they can read at first the text to which you are referring. The quoted text is some kind of help to remember the topic, which of course will not work, if you place the quoted text below your response. Furthermore, that's the standard. This may sound as a weak argument, but since people are not used to reading the other way around, they have no idea what you are referring to and have to go back and forth between the referenced articles, have to jump between different articles and so on. In short - reading the article becomes more and more difficult - for people who read many articles it is reason enough to skip the entire article, if the context is not obvious. And besides: doesn't it look stupid to first get the answer and then see the question? (Aside from Jeopardy, of course.) Furthermore, you (yes: You) save a lot of time using this way of quoting: You do not need to repeat what the person you refer to wrote, in order to show the context. You just place your comment after the text you wish to comment upon, and everybody immediately knows what you refer to. Also, you realize which text you are *not* responding to and can delete these parts. So: using this technique you save time, your readers don't have to waste time, you save bandwidth and disk-space. Isn't it great what you can achieve by such simple means? -- 10 August 2002, 11:20 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods. Cats have never forgotten this. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
Sh'mae Miguel, On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, at 11:46:25 [GMT +0200] (10:46 where I live) you wrote: MAU Top quoting is forbidden (well, discouraged) in this list and that's MAU all there is to it, we must follow the rules. But let's not give MAU arguments in favour or against. I find top quoting (or is it top MAU posting, I'm never sure which is what) much easier to read because I MAU can start reading from the very top, without having to scroll with my MAU eyes (or keyboard or mouse) over PGP stuff, 'fancy' and lengthy MAU greetings with time stamps from different parts of the world, MAU redundant subjects, names and MIDs that already appear in message MAU headers, etc., etc., etc. Then the issue is untidy snipping and quoting then.. ;-) A -- 10 August 2002, 11:27 [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
Sh'mae Miguel, On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, at 13:10:25 [GMT +0200] (12:10 where I live) you wrote: MAU Hello Adam, MAU Because unless Syafril's server does funny things, you should receive MAU a message with the Question and later, when someone bothers to reply, MAU a message with the Answer. And, if threading by reference... :-)) You can never guarantee that they arrive chronologically though. Email is a funny thing -- 10 August 2002, 15:02 [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Babies don't need a vacation, but I still see them at the beach... it pisses me off! I'll go over to a little baby and say What are you doing here? You haven't worked a day in your life! All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Adding addresses to Address book
Sh'mae Miguel, On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, at 16:22:06 [GMT +0200] (15:22 where I live) you wrote: MAU Hello Adam, You can never guarantee that they arrive chronologically though. Email is a funny thing MAU That is exactly why I view threads by reference and sort by created MAU date and not by received as I believe you said you do :) Ok ok prove me wrong! A ;-) -- 10 August 2002, 15:26 [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Calm down -- it's only ones and zeroes. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: browser association (2nd posting)
Sh'mae Allie, On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, at 07:29:06 [GMT -0500] (13:29 where I live) you wrote: ACM from under my rock ACM Hi guys!. How's the weather out there? ACM /from under my rock So the rock I sent you arrived then! ;-) A -- 09 August 2002, 13:37 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] RTFM: No just an acronym, it's the LAW! All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Case sensitve email addresses
Sh'mae Dave, On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, at 16:55:44 [GMT +0100] (16:55 where I live) you wrote: DW Dear TBUDL, DW I have just noticed that the latest version converts any email DW addresses I enter in the To: box to lowercase. As most email DW addresses are the persons name, which is a proper noun, it is DW incorrect and bad manners to use lowercase. Is there a way I can ge DW The Bat to leave the case as entered? DW Best regards, DW Dave mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DW DW Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: DW http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Actually email addresses are case-insensitive, and are not really proper nouns. They are part and parcel of an address and not a name as such. They cease being a name per se. It would be like arguing version should be spelt verSion as Sion is a first name in Wales. I don't know about you, but it hasn't bothered anyone I email. I think its more a Windows thing where certain packages auto-correct is a bit too keen to see any word as correctable. A -- 09 August 2002, 17:03 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Murphy's best friend was a computer. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My Local Time In Replies
Sh'mae Michael,
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, at 19:36:45 [GMT +0100] (19:36 where I live) you wrote:
MT Hello tbudl,
MT I have noticed in many of your posts that people have something like
MT this-
MT |On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:46:54 +0100 GMT (Aug 09, 20:31 my local time),
MT |you [BH] wrote:
MT Can any one share with me what this template is?
MT Is it just a case of some timezone maths?
Heres my reply to template
%WRAPJUSTIFY %SINGLERE
%subject=Re:%setpattregexp=(?i)\A\:?(\s*\[.*\])?(\s*(re|ha|rcpt|fwd|fw)(\[\d*\])?:\s*)*(.*)%RegExpBlindMatch=%OSubj%SubPatt=5
Sh'mae %TOFNAME,
%WRAPPED='%SETPATTREGEXP=(?m-s)^Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:%-[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))%-%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%HEADERS%-On%SUBPATT=2,
at %SUBPATT=3 [GMT%SUBPATT=4] %-(%OTIME where I live) you wrote:'
%QINCLUDE=PGPREMOVE
%Cursor
--
%QINCLUDE=MYSIGN
It includes my signature MYSIGN and another acro to snip PGP sig's
A
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09 August 2002, 19:44
[ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
[ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ]
[ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
The trouble with work is... it's so daily.
All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux.
Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: inbox-known ?
Sh'mae Andy, On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, at 23:52:31 [GMT +0100] (23:52 where I live) you wrote: AM Hello list AM Probably a stupid question, but what is the purpose of the AM Inbox-Known folder which was created automatically on AM installation? There is a special filter that can be activated that means that any incoming mail from a person already in your address book gets shunted into this folder. Consider it step one in SPAM management. A -- 09 August 2002, 00:33 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Linux: Because rebooting is for adding new hardware. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: DIGEST
Hi Mark, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 21:02:38 [GMT -0700] (05:02 where I live) you wrote: MW Hi back atcha. Sorry guys Can someone review the links to change in and out of Digest - as you can see I had real fun with them yesterday! A -- 04 August 2002, 12:28 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister. Sorry. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Allie, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 23:17:36 [GMT -0500] (05:17 where I live) you wrote: ACM This isn't what *you* do. You do all the quoting at the top followed ACM by all your replying below. I'm yet to see a reply message from you ACM with the format: ACM Quote (pruned properly) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a few examples. I'd deleted all list mail past yesterday so all I have is saturday -, but look carefully and you will see that most of the time I only answer one point. Strange how all of a sudden I am the one defending my position. -- 04 August 2002, 12:30 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] It may be called puppy love, but it's real to the puppy. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Dierk, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 09:45:32 [GMT +0200] (08:45 where I live) you wrote: DH Hello Adam! DH On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 5:32:19 AM you wrote: Come on Allie, that means that whole threads turn into a mish mash. Top or bottom, come off the fence. DH On this list: No. Use conversational mode. See one of my replies - what I call bottom posting is indented quoting - just most of the time I use one message = one point. This is a case in mind - i used this message to answer your one point, -- 04 August 2002, 12:39 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] When I was a child... We had a quick-sand box in the backyard.. I was an only child eventually. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi Thomas, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 12:26:29 [GMT +0700] (06:26 where I live) you wrote: AR Perhaps an FAQ entry is needed, explaining the position? TF It is sad that it seems to be necessary. Indeed - I agree AR This is now officially an ex-horse, it has ceased to be (well I think so)! TF ^^ TF Have you become a moderator? ;-) No, just someone who can see an exercise in futility approaching ;-) A -- 04 August 2002, 12:41 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] The Knights Who Say Nee demand a sacrifice! All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Dierk, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 09:32:11 [GMT +0200] (08:32 where I live) you wrote: DH Hello Adam! DH Why was all the old message's stuff included? Because it was 3 AM and I hit reply without doing my normal pruning. Tired minds and all that -- 04 August 2002, 12:40 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] A)bort, R)etry, I)nfluence with large hammer. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Allie, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 23:23:12 [GMT -0500] (05:23 where I live) you wrote: ACM Upon deliberate review of your posts apart from the recent ones in ACM this thread, I see that this is patently untrue. I apologize for ACM saying this. :) It looks as if this was meant at me, though I can't tell as you replied to yourself. If it is I accept. Ifitisn't then talking to oneself is a very bad sign indeed... A -- 04 August 2002, 12:44 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi Thomas, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 12:26:29 [GMT +0700] (06:26 where I live) you wrote: TF Hello Adam, AR This is now officially an ex-horse, it has ceased to be (well I think AR so)! TF ^^ TF Have you become a moderator? ;-) Sigh - a blatant Monty Python reference and everyone things I'm being pushy ;-) A -- 04 August 2002, 12:46 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Murphy's best friend was a computer. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: DIGEST
Hi Peter, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 14:30:10 [GMT +0200] (13:30 where I live) you wrote: PM Hi Adam, AR Can someone review the links to change in and out of Digest - as you can AR see I had real fun with them yesterday! PM Here you are: PM I suggest you create an archive folder for TB! and store messages of PM general meaning there. :-) I rather zealously overpruned my folder and so deleted the original messages I was sent. Ta A -- 04 August 2002, 14:32 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Found this spoon, sir. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: CONTACT LIST WINDOW
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 11:46:00 [GMT -0300] (15:46 where I live) you wrote: KI just can't find a way to show the contact list window for rapid Kaccess... where can I find it? TF F8 K -- K but isn't there a mini-view like in OE? At the end of the TO: field is a little address book icon A -- 04 August 2002, 16:08 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can assume it will be pretty bad. - Dave Barry All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL Bandwidth
Hi flash, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 08:54:26 [GMT +0700 (JAVT)] (02:54 where I live) you wrote: fwn On Sat, Aug 03, 2002 at 03:33:03AM +0700, Syafril Hermansyah wrote: I think what he meant to say was ...Who have access to e-mail but not the www. Yupe, it is common in big company. fwn If that is the case, I consider subscribing to TB* lists using fwn such a company email address is impolite. I suggest to unsub fwn this kind of user from TB* lists. One should use this kind of fwn account for his job related correspondences only. fwn -flash and if that company uses The Bat! for email It is up to the company to mandate email usages, not us. -- 03 August 2002, 11:11 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Private key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] No man is an island. But some of us are long peninsulas. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: TBUDL Bandwidth
Hi Syafril, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 00:45:31 [GMT +0700] (18:45 where I live) you wrote: SH On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 11:12:25 +0100 Adam Rykala SH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what he meant to say was ...Who have access to e-mail but not the www. Yupe, it is common in big company. fwn If that is the case, I consider subscribing to TB* lists using fwn such a company email address is impolite. I suggest to unsub fwn this kind of user from TB* lists. One should use this kind of fwn account for his job related correspondences only. and if that company uses The Bat! for email It is up to the company to mandate email usages, not us. SH That's the fact, unless the company your owned :-) SH I saw on a lot of SMER company, there is Mail only no browsing/proxy SH installed/allowed. Also factor in people on low bandwidth connections.. I think the email footer is pretty low-impact and contains a hell of a lot of info. The other option is a daily post to the list (or weekly) marked Subscriber Info. People could then filter this out as/when required, even from the server without downloading(mm, lets see - am I using an email client that can do that ;-) ) A -- 03 August 2002, 19:12 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Private key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Is OS/2 only half an operating system? All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hi Jan, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 14:08:40 [GMT -0400] (19:08 where I live) you wrote: JR Hi Thomas. JR At 1:29 PM on Saturday, August 03, 2002 you wrote the JR following about [a real mystery]: TF [...] Some disk utilities will mark those sectors as TF bad and will not allow the O/S subsystem to use them TF again. That's what you need, [/...] JR Can you suggest one that works with NTFS rather than JR FAT32. I had considered Spinrite v5 only to discover that JR it doesn't work w NTFS. I have a feeling that if I could JR do this, this particular problem would be solved. Any more JR of these I would certainly consider changing HDs JR quickly. I would have from the start. Example, I lost all of my email from 1996-2001 cause of a disk fault... mind you, I was using LookOut at the time. That was all my Westminster correspondance, thousands of emails from user groups, correspondence with friends and colleagues gone - thanks to one HDD sector. Now if I get them, the disc goes. Fortunately I moved over to SCSI at the same time for my system disc as well...! A -- 03 August 2002, 19:15 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Private key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] My keyboard keeps changing what I type. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 20:07:17 [GMT -0300] (00:07 where I live) you wrote: K Hi list!, KI would like to know how can I sort the mails on a folder in order Kto get at the begining the newest mails (I've tried with received Kand created columns, but it doesn't order the mails properly) K PS: As you can see I've moved to TB! =), thanks to all of you for your K help! Tried clicking the headings on the message view? -- 04 August 2002, 00:16 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] To iterate is human; to recurse, divine. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
DIGEST
Hi , -- 04 August 2002, 00:32 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] The worst thing about censorship is ÛÛ. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 20:38:51 [GMT -0300] (00:38 where I live) you wrote: K Hi!, Adam, K what? what's that? K thanks All I had to do was click on the heading marked received on the message list view. It sorts mine correctly - how is it wrong? If its reverse - click it again -- 04 August 2002, 00:41 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 47.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 21:03:53 [GMT -0300] (01:03 where I live) you wrote: K Hi list! K How can I use GnuPG with TB! ? K thanks! K PS: I have had it installed since long, and have all the keys created Is it installed in the default location c:\gpg? If so then go to Tools menu - OpenPGP - Choose PGP Version Select GPG Then choose Sign or encrypt as required from the Privacy Menu -- 04 August 2002, 01:09 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 2nd Law of Thermodynamics: Chaos will Reign. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Douglas, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 19:53:55 [GMT -0500] (01:53 where I live) you wrote: DH Hello Adam, DH Your headers and signature indicate / suggest you are using TB! with DH Linux. Is that correct? If so, what Linux and (I assume) win app DH drivers or emulation are you using? DH Thanks in advance. DH Douglas Hinds DH DH Current Ver: 1.61 DH FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com DH Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DH Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com DH Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DH TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DH Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ No such luck Douglas! I have an e-smith server (www.e-smith.org) that sits between my home network and the outside world. I'm running Antivir on it, and AVG on the client. -- 04 August 2002, 02:25 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Office of Economic Opportunity All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:57:58 [GMT -0300] (02:57 where I live) you wrote: K Hi! Adam, Kwell, I still can't use it!... KI have it installed on the default folder c:\gnupg\ (that is the Kdefault folder), the problem is that I can't use my key with TB!, Khow to? Kthanks! Did you set it as your default key What error message you get? Oh btw to answer another point, bottom posting actually follows the thread of conversation betteri.e the e-mail reads chronologically correctly - from bottom to top = from past to present A K K Current Ver: 1.61 K FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com K Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] K Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com K Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] K TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] K Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ -- 04 August 2002, 03:10 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] No, no, aaugh, at the back of the throat. Aauuugh. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi ETM, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 22:22:55 [GMT -0400] (03:22 where I live) you wrote: E A file folder (in the US) runs with the oldest paper at the E bottom and the current papers proceeding in chronological filing E order to the top of the stack. Is this a country thing? E Elaine Probably However the convention for bottom posting for email is a very lon gestablished one, and one that MS had no compunction about breaking... The key to successful bottom posting is quoting, snipping what is extraneous and only including the relevant. Reading a top posted email is like trying to have an argument with a clairvoyant.. A -- 04 August 2002, 03:26 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Do you think that when they asked George Washington for ID that he just whipped out a quarter? All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Douglas, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 21:24:35 [GMT -0500] (03:24 where I live) you wrote: DH Hello Alexis, DH You wrote: AH As I know TB! works fine on WINE DH That's good to know, because WINE is promoted by codeweavers as a DH way to run M$Office 97 2K on Linux (and the most popular Intel DH Unixes) and you know what Office includes. IAC, there are other and DH better Office Suites, which didn't run as well on OS/2 as DH SmartSuite, for instance (referring to the Win 3.1 version not DH Lotus' OS/2 version). The Borland apps did worse than the win apps DH on OS/2, although I have little knowlege of how similar OS/2 and DH Linux are in terms of structure. (I'm just a user). Totally OT but... I use Corel WordPerfect 2002 - and if it only imported jpg's correctly it would rule -- 04 August 2002, 03:28 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] I woke up one morning and looked around the room. Something wasn't right. I realized that someone had broken in the night before and replaced everything in my apartment with an exact replica. I couldn't believe it... I got my roommate and showed him. I said, Look at this--everything's been replaced with an exact replica! He said, Do I know you? All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 23:29:14 [GMT -0300] (03:29 where I live) you wrote: K Hi Adam Rykala, on Sábado, 03 de Agosto de 2002 you wrote: AR Hi KoMpLoT, AR On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:57:58 [GMT -0300] (02:57 where I live) you wrote: AR A K -- K well, maybe you're right... K I've changed the template for the list... K but that's another thing... K I get no err!, that's the problem! K I've installed PGP Freeware v7.0.3 and GnuPG v1.0.6 how can I use K them with TB!, that's all, I just get no err, I can't import my key, K I've no idea of what the problem is... K -- 1) you got a -- sig separator in front of your text - which will mean it will get stripped from a reply 2) PGP 7.0.3 doesn't work - go to 6.58ckt which I have found is the best 3) Tools - Open PGP - Choose GPG Version Then select Open PGP Key Manager Select your key as default then sign key You DON'T NEED TO IMPORT KEY if you are NOT using the inbuilt PGP implementation A -- 04 August 2002, 03:31 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Huh, there's no Messiah in here. There's a mess, all right, but no Messiah. Now, go away! All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi KoMpLoT, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 23:29:14 [GMT -0300] (03:29 where I live) you wrote: K Hi Adam Rykala, on Sábado, 03 de Agosto de 2002 you wrote: AR Hi KoMpLoT, AR On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:57:58 [GMT -0300] (02:57 where I live) you wrote: K Hi! Adam, Kwell, I still can't use it!... KI have it installed on the default folder c:\gnupg\ (that is the Kdefault folder), the problem is that I can't use my key with TB!, Khow to? Kthanks! AR Did you set it as your default key AR What error message you get? AR Oh btw to answer another point, bottom posting actually follows the thread of AR conversation betteri.e the e-mail reads chronologically correctly - from AR bottom to top = from past to present AR A K -- K well, maybe you're right... K I've changed the template for the list... K but that's another thing... K I get no err!, that's the problem! K I've installed PGP Freeware v7.0.3 and GnuPG v1.0.6 how can I use K them with TB!, that's all, I just get no err, I can't import my key, K I've no idea of what the problem is... K -- K Regards, K KoMpLoT K mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Once you've done that in new email go to Privacy and click Sign (or Encrypt) when completed, When you send it will ask for your pass phrase A PS 6.5.8ckt comes with their own Bat! plugin - -- 04 August 2002, 03:37 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] And Winter gave Spring and Summer a miss and went straight on into Autumn. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: Trech Gwlad, nac Arglwydd Comment: Fingerprint: 1877 137B CCB4 FD7A D137 A1B5 7D2B DC81 4F3B C1D1 iQA/AwUBPUyToH0r3IFPO8HREQK7zACggDxXmoQ+/dF4wYibnwksJy+Z7aoAnjSh 0cL3j2TrGgvPG5Va+slPBR1M =F4/s -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Nick, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 19:47:24 [GMT -0700] (03:47 where I live) you wrote: NA Hello Adam Rykala, NA In Reference to your Posting on Saturday, August 03 2002 at 07:34 PM PDT, You DON'T NEED TO IMPORT KEY if you are NOT using the inbuilt PGP implementation NA Why not? Because if you use a PGP/GPG version (rather then the internal implementation) then it uses that versions key manager to handle it. As far as I can tell, the IMPORt facility is for the internal implementation. I've never had to import my key to use PGP with the bat (6.5.8ckt beta 9) A -- 04 August 2002, 03:50 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] If you're standing on your head, and you pull your pants down, is that really such a bad thing? All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi ETM, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 22:54:01 [GMT -0400] (03:54 where I live) you wrote: E I generally read in real time (probably means I should get a E real life grin) and so I usually remember the thread. E Elaine E Hello Adam E On Saturday, August 3, 2002, you wrote Reading a top posted email is like trying to have an argument with a clairvoyant.. E E Current Ver: 1.61 E FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com E Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] E Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com E Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] E TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] E Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ No offense Elaine but that post shows the problem with top posting I saw someone else use this A: Because it doesn't make sense when reading long threads. Q: Why is it wrong to top post? -- 04 August 2002, 03:56 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] I love the swooshing sound deadlines make as they go by. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi ETM, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 21:49:04 [GMT -0400] (02:49 where I live) you wrote: E Is it OE or is it USA programming? I prefer top-replying, don't E often re-read the original post, dislike the colorization that must E be waded through in a reply to read the the current (answer) E post. If I can't remember the original post, dropping to the E bottom to read the original is nicer than wading, especially E since I often don't maximize emails as I go through them. E The reason I ask about American is because I believe Netscape, Eudora, E Pegasus, web services, etc., all may use top reply. E Please explain about the signature problems you mention. I am not E certain I understand. E Elaine SNIP is the key. I'm sorry to sound anal about it but top-posting bugs the hell out of me, its bad etiquette. Pegasus uses bottom posting, and Mozilla does. Netscape for some reason is now using top posting but can be altered. Web services are another kettle of fish.. Consider another analogy. Try driving on your side on the road here in the UK! -- 04 August 2002, 03:59 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Alas, poor kiroY. I knew him backwards. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Nick, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 20:08:47 [GMT -0700] (04:08 where I live) you wrote: NA Hello Adam Rykala, NA In Reference to your Posting on Saturday, August 03 2002 at 07:51 PM PDT, I've never had to import my key to use PGP with the bat (6.5.8ckt beta 9) NA Oh, I see what you are saying. However, if someone was running GPG and NA decided to install PGP 6.5.8ckt, they would still have to import their NA Key(s) to PGP. Yes... which was a pain - thats the way I went. I still have GPG on my machine, just didn't like the Windows plugins such as WinPT or GPGShell. I'm just a GUI snob! A -- 04 August 2002, 04:12 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] If you lost your left arm, your right arm would be left. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi Jonathan, On 03 Aug 2002, at 22:09:30 [GMT -0500] (04:09 where I live) you wrote: JA On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 20:56, KoMpLoT wrote: I don't know, I still prefeer using this way, because I always read the first part to know what's on the e-mail... Take for JA example, the reply to my message, you could have cut it down to maybe JA the first two lines of my reply, and everybody still would have got the JA idea, but the whole email was quoted... but I'm getting off-topic, so JA I'll let it rest. Perhaps an FAQ entry is needed, explaining the position? This is now officially an ex-horse, it has ceased to be (well I think so)! A -- 04 August 2002, 04:13 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] I have a hobby...I have the world's largest collection of sea shells. I keep it scattered on beaches all over the world. Maybe you've seen some of it... All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Nick, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 20:11:50 [GMT -0700] (04:11 where I live) you wrote: NA Hello Adam Rykala, NA In Reference to your Posting on Saturday, August 03 2002 at 07:57 PM PDT, NA Sorry, but your message is a bad example of bottom posting as well, seeing NA as you have included the previous message's List trailer. ;o) I don't NA think it really matters if you top or bottom post... as long as you trim the quoted portion of your postings. I know I know ... I'd been good till that one! Because Elaine doesn't have a sig seperator I failed to notice that one. Another joy of using the Bat! is this ability to fire and forget! A -- 04 August 2002, 04:14 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Love ain't nothin' but sex misspelled. -- short story by Harlan Ellison All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi ETM, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 23:10:15 [GMT -0400] (04:10 where I live) you wrote: E But I have never retained any taglines or extraneous material. E What is it that you all are seeing that I am not seeing on my E receiving end? Is it something in TB that bothers people and I E am not catching on to what it is? Eudora, Pegasus, Netscape, E Outlook, Outlook Express, and whatever others, use top replies E (without colorization) and it doesn't seem to cause problems on E any of my other mailing lists. Comments about it are only made here, E and I somehow am not zeroing in on precisely what the problem is. Proper net etiquette is to bottom-reply, It follows the accepted norm of Question- Answer. We don't see anything different to anyone else using OE, Outlook or whatever. Its just the Bat! is set up by default to encourage good email etiquette. My work involves administering an email server for 250 usershence email is very dear to me (and sometimes the bane of my life). -- 04 August 2002, 04:16 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide, it's a killer! All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi ETM, On Sat, 03 Aug 2002, at 23:13:23 [GMT -0400] (04:13 where I live) you wrote: E Ahh. Then that really is the problem. Different E countries, different views or top and bottom posting. E Okay, I will stop posting here and continue to read (skipping the E colorized portions of the replies laughter). E Elaine no no no no noo! Its not a country thing. The standard of bottom-replying is a global thing. Its broken email clients that are the problem! Not you, or your nationality. Like i said -- think Question - Answer. A -- 04 August 2002, 04:19 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : http://www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] We've got the best government money can buy. Think about that for awhile. All messages both into and out of this account have been scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. However, all attachments should be scanned also with a virus checker at the receiver's end to ensure that the files are clean and free of virus infection. All messages are for the attention of the recipient only. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
