Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs
Hello MAU, On Sunday, April 24, 2022 you wrote: M> Hello Jack, M> Sorry for my late reply, I was away all week and can't use my phone to M> send to the list. >> I owe you an apology Miguel. M> Heck no! You owe me a beer ;-) I would be delighted to provide a beer or two, or seven, should we ever meet. You will be amused to learn that your method of accomplishing what I was after has now been incorporated into yet another group. Again, my sincerest appreciation for your help. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs
Hello Jack, Sorry for my late reply, I was away all week and can't use my phone to send to the list. > I owe you an apology Miguel. Heck no! You owe me a beer ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid)- Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs
Hello MAU, On Monday, April 18, 2022 you wrote: M> Hello Jack, >> I need to trap a bunch of ever changing merchandise and/or >> political ads. Each one is different. M> Even if it is an ever changing list of ads (senders), I still think the M> AB Groups is a much easier and cleaner way than the endless ORs or M> BLOCKS that you were trying. If you get a mew add (sender) all you M> have to do is add it to your AB and ABGroup and the filter will still M> work as desired. No need to fiddle with the filter. M> But then, you do know better than me what you really want to do. I owe you an apology Miguel. After using your method of trapping a multiple list of senders I find that it is much more "elegant" than I originally thought. It turns out that your method is much easier to use than the "block" method I was attempting to make work. I see that it also finds variations of the address I was adding to the group which would have been missed had I gotten the "block" method to work. So, in sum, a great implementation of one of TB!'s more arcane features. Thanks again. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs
Hello MAU, On Monday, April 18, 2022 you wrote: M> Hello Jack, >> Once again I am in need of a way to filter (trap) multiple senders. So far >> the >> only thing that has worked is OR>SENDER>CONTAINS>text for each sender. >> Needless to >> say, this leads to a very large filter. M> Do you have all the senders in your Address Book? If yes, I would M> create an AB Group and add all those senders to the AB Group . Then M> filter with condition: M> Address groups - "AB Group" - contains - sender M> I use this for family and some groups of friends. Thank you Miguel, that seems to work, if a little Rube Goldbergish. Being able to use the "block" function as part of a condition seems to me to be a little more elegant but since I can't get it to work the way I think it should work, I'll continue to use your method since your method DOES work. Once again, I appreciate your expertise in matters batty. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs
Hello Jack, > I need to trap a bunch of ever changing merchandise and/or > political ads. Each one is different. Even if it is an ever changing list of ads (senders), I still think the AB Groups is a much easier and cleaner way than the endless ORs or BLOCKS that you were trying. If you get a mew add (sender) all you have to do is add it to your AB and ABGroup and the filter will still work as desired. No need to fiddle with the filter. But then, you do know better than me what you really want to do. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid)- Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs
Hello MAU, On Monday, April 18, 2022 you wrote: M> Hello Jack, >> Once again I am in need of a way to filter (trap) multiple senders. So far >> the >> only thing that has worked is OR>SENDER>CONTAINS>text for each sender. >> Needless to >> say, this leads to a very large filter. M> Do you have all the senders in your Address Book? If yes, I would M> create an AB Group and add all those senders to the AB Group . Then M> filter with condition: M> Address groups - "AB Group" - contains - sender M> I use this for family and some groups of friends. Thank you for the suggestion Miguel but alas, no. I need to trap a bunch of ever changing merchandise and/or political ads. Each one is different. I plan to unsubscribe from them all but until I have the time to do I thought I'd just have the filter mark them as READ and move them to the trash folder. I've set the trash folder to limit quantity to 500 and to delete old ones when closing TB!. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter for mutiple SENDERs
Hello Jack, > Once again I am in need of a way to filter (trap) multiple senders. So far the > only thing that has worked is OR>SENDER>CONTAINS>text for each sender. > Needless to > say, this leads to a very large filter. Do you have all the senders in your Address Book? If yes, I would create an AB Group and add all those senders to the AB Group . Then filter with condition: Address groups - "AB Group" - contains - sender I use this for family and some groups of friends. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid)- Spain) Using The Bat! Version 9.5.1 (64-bit) Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter help
Hello Ian, On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 you wrote: IAW> G'day Jack, >> Anyone have any idea why the filter caught 39 of them and not any of the >> others? IAW> I have a similar situation where I use the following common filter for incoming messages. IAW> The "members" of the group are set as contacts in an addressbook group. IAW> IAW> I then use \\\Inbox\%AbFromGroup as the destination IAW> folder and where the members have just one e-mail address, there is IAW> generally no issue. It is when they have multiple addresses each that there IAW> appears to be an issue with how the addresses are entered and used. IAW> IAW> I have had to enter a blank line between addresses and even going to the IAW> start of each address and pressing enter. The extra blank lines get deleted IAW> (which points to an addressbook issue) so that when you go into the entry IAW> again the blank lines are no longer there. IAW> Maybe your issue is similar. Unfortunately I won't know if Stuart's suggestion bore fruit until I clean out all the emails that got trapped by the filter because of an error on my part. However, if Stuart's suggestion did *not* work as hoped I'll be delighted to try yours. Thank you Ian. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter help
Hello Stuart, On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 you wrote: SC> Hello Jack, SC> A reminder of what Jack S. LaRosa typed on: SC> July 21, 2021 at 12:46:20 GMT -0500 JSL>> It seems so simple and as I mentioned, a "re-filter" action on the source folder JSL>> did find 39 of the emails contained in the block of addresses. But only on the JSL>> first re-filter. Subsequent re-filterings MOVED no more addresses. Even JSL>> changing the condition ie: SENDER, TEXT, HEADER, MESSAGE SOURCE, or HEADER FIELD JSL>> had no effect. It never did find any more of the multitude of addresses JSL>> contained in the block. SC> Did you try Sender "Contains any of" instead of just "Contains" That MAY have worked Stuart. Un-fortunately, I had a couple of conditions set in the actual filter from previous tests, and in my haste to try your suggestion I overlooked them. This caused many emails to get moved to the destination folder that shouldn't have. I'll have to weed out those inadvertant moves and compare the final count of emails to the count before the re-filter to see if it has gone up. I'll let you know. Many thanks Stuart. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter help
Hello Jack, A reminder of what Jack S. LaRosa typed on: July 21, 2021 at 12:46:20 GMT -0500 JSL> It seems so simple and as I mentioned, a "re-filter" action on the source folder JSL> did find 39 of the emails contained in the block of addresses. But only on the JSL> first re-filter. Subsequent re-filterings MOVED no more addresses. Even JSL> changing the condition ie: SENDER, TEXT, HEADER, MESSAGE SOURCE, or HEADER FIELD JSL> had no effect. It never did find any more of the multitude of addresses JSL> contained in the block. Did you try Sender "Contains any of" instead of just "Contains" -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! Version 9.3.0.2 (64-bit) On Windows 10.0 Build #22000 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter help
Hello MAU, On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 you wrote: M> Hello Jack, >> I have a folder which contains multiple unique emails from a particular >> group of >> people. They were originally moved there manually. I wanted to create a >> filter >> for the source folder to look for the characters in their email addresses >> which >> appear before the @ sign, then move those emails to the aforementioned >> destination folder. When I re-filtered the source folder, only about 39 of >> the >> emails actually got moved. Many more which met the criteria specified in the >> filter were never moved. I double and tripled checked for typing errors and >> there were none. M> It would be much better that instead of trying to explain what your M> filter does, or you think it does, that you copied your filter and M> pasted it here in the list so that we could really look at the filter, M> and maybe even test it. >> I used the block option in the creation of the filter because there were so >> many >> (about 128) addresses I wanted caught. M> I don't know how you used the block option unless I do see the filter. M> Anyway, if you are talking about 128 or so addresses, my own approach M> would be to put all those addresses in an Address Book Group, say M> '128ers', and the in the filter condition use: M> Address groups 128ers contains Sender Thank you Miguel. I'm going to try your suggestion. However, if this .png makes it through (it's only 4KB), it'll show how the filter is built. Notice the up/down arrows to the right of the box displaying "email address 5". clicking those arrows will move you up or down through all the 127 *actual* addresses entered in the "block". It seems so simple and as I mentioned, a "re-filter" action on the source folder did find 39 of the emails contained in the block of addresses. But only on the first re-filter. Subsequent re-filterings MOVED no more addresses. Even changing the condition ie: SENDER, TEXT, HEADER, MESSAGE SOURCE, or HEADER FIELD had no effect. It never did find any more of the multitude of addresses contained in the block. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter help
Hello Jack, > I have a folder which contains multiple unique emails from a particular group > of > people. They were originally moved there manually. I wanted to create a filter > for the source folder to look for the characters in their email addresses > which > appear before the @ sign, then move those emails to the aforementioned > destination folder. When I re-filtered the source folder, only about 39 of the > emails actually got moved. Many more which met the criteria specified in the > filter were never moved. I double and tripled checked for typing errors and > there were none. It would be much better that instead of trying to explain what your filter does, or you think it does, that you copied your filter and pasted it here in the list so that we could really look at the filter, and maybe even test it. > I used the block option in the creation of the filter because there were so > many > (about 128) addresses I wanted caught. I don't know how you used the block option unless I do see the filter. Anyway, if you are talking about 128 or so addresses, my own approach would be to put all those addresses in an Address Book Group, say '128ers', and the in the filter condition use: Address groups 128ers contains Sender -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial (Madrid)- Spain) Using The Bat! vVersion 9.4.2.7 (64-bit) Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter / Folder Question
Hello Stefan Tanurkov via TBUDL, Thank you. I used The Bat for MANY years several years ago. I moved to a MAC so I couldn't use it, but I have moved back to Windows so I'm back. I am embarrassed to say, I forgot about the folders tab in the filter manager .. so thanks for the push in the right direction!Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 10:01:55 AM, you wrote: > Hello Jody, > Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 4:23:43 AM, you wrote: >> Is there a way to set ANY message, that is in a specific folder, as read. > Presumably, you are talking about IMAP folders in your scenario, then the > answer is yes - you can do it with incoming filters assigned to specific > folders, select "Any message" or whatever condition you need and add the > "mark as read" action to the filter. -- Jody Watts Thought for the day : I went to the museum where they had all the heads and arms from the statues that are in all the other museums. -- Steven Wright Composed on Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 7:55 PM using The Bat Version 9.3.0.3 on Windows 10.0 Build 19042 Attachments = Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter / Folder Question
Hello Jody, Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 4:23:43 AM, you wrote: > Is there a way to set ANY message, that is in a specific folder, as read. Presumably, you are talking about IMAP folders in your scenario, then the answer is yes - you can do it with incoming filters assigned to specific folders, select "Any message" or whatever condition you need and add the "mark as read" action to the filter. -- Best regards, Stefan Tanurkov Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter on 'Header Field' in Virual Folders?
Hi On Monday 1 December 2014 at 4:27:44 PM, in mid:1029546671.20141201112...@denstarfarm.us, RD wrote: TB! version 6.7.2 and windows 6/1/7601 Hello TBUDL: I have a new Virtual Folder which collects notifications of new versions of Apps from various lists to which I belong. Some developers have a Header Field called X-Sender. I'd like to make the Virtual Folder look at Header-Fields as well as the regular Header choice. This feature is present in other Filters elsewhere in TB! Can we have it in Virtual Folders? Whilst developers do occasionally participate in this list, the official place for feature requests is https://bt.ritlabs.com. Just out of interest, could you match X-Sender: Some Data using Header Contains X-Sender: Some Data ? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter manipulation
Sunday, July 6, 2014, 3:03:17 AM, you wrote: I don't understand why RITlabs don't make all filters into Common Filters, with the per-account filters views just showing the Common Filters currently ticked for that account. Perhaps they will in one of the next versions of The Bat. I've never understood the per account. Maybe it's useful for those who only have one or two email addresses strictly separated so that business-related and private only know one of them. In my case, I tend to filter on things other than which address the mail was actually sent to, usually from but sometimes subject. That means almost every filter is _one_ common filter, otherwise I have to copy and paste the same filter into every account. My immediate issue here is exceptional. I only used that address for LinkedIn groups and it bore absolutely no relation (apart from the domain) to any of my other email addresses. I thought I was safe with account-specific filters for this. Quite apart from LinkedIn ignoring whatever address you specify for the groups, the format of the messages changed as well so all the filter conditions were broken as well as not sending to the expected address. It's not only The Bat. I don't think any email client lets you edit filters using any text editor. Adrian .. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter manipulation
Hi On Thursday 3 July 2014 at 12:53:11 PM, in mid:1376411768.20140703135...@ags.lu, Adrian Godfrey wrote: Is there a way to copy and paste ALL filters (or at least more than one at a time) associated with a specific email address to common filtera? As far as I know there is no way to do this within the TB! interface other than one at a time. But if _ALL_ your filters are under a single account and none under Common Filters, I suspect you could probably copy the file that stores them and paste it into the correct location for common filters. I was thinking I had done this with filters, but on checking I find it was with Quick Templates. I really should have put those filters in common filters in the first place. I don't understand why RITlabs don't make all filters into Common Filters, with the per-account filters views just showing the Common Filters currently ticked for that account. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter not working
Hallo Greg, Op woensdag 28 december 2011, 1:37:13, schreef Greg Strong: I have a filter not working when using Folder Re-filter . See below in quote box. I altered the target folder and for me the filter functioned properly. Though at first it didn't because the test message was intercepted by another filter, that didn't move the filter, but merely added something to the address book. Therefore you'd better check your log to see whether your message(s) is/are triggered by a filter that's listed above this one. I believe the last license purchase was for V4. Is this functionality just broke, or am I looking at having to purchase a new license? If my memory is correct, I thought the license for version 4 was good for V5.0, Unless you get a pop-up about an expired license or an evaluation period, your registration is still valid. -- Groetjes, Roelof http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter question
Good afternoon Roger, It was foretold that on 26/05/2011 @ 07:19:43 GMT+0200 (which was 02:19:43 where I live) Roger Phillips would write: snipped a bit Try 'Recipient match @forumname' Tnx roger and agent. -- Best regards, Luc Pgp key: mailto:luc_knaepk...@oi.com.br?subject=PGP_Keys_1Body=Please%20send%20keys Using the best e-mail client: The Bat! version 4.2.6 with Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. Beauty lies in the hands of the beer holder. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter question
Good afternoon Roger, It was foretold that on 26/05/2011 @ 07:19:43 GMT+0200 (which was 02:19:43 where I live) Roger Phillips would write: snipped a bit Try 'Recipient match @forumname' No luck. Testing the filter gives me the message that it has been moved but the message didn't actually move to the right folder. -- Best regards, Luc Pgp key: mailto:luc_knaepk...@oi.com.br?subject=PGP_Keys_1Body=Please%20send%20keys Using the best e-mail client: The Bat! version 4.2.6 with Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. Man is a clever animal who behaves like an imbecile. - Albert Schweitzer. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter question -SOLVED
Good afternoon list, Well it seems TB! was in a lazy mood ... after a few minutes the filter kicked in and fo the time being all is well :-) -- Best regards, Luc Using the best e-mail client: The Bat! version 4.2.6 with Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera. Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers. Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter question
Hi Luc and others - i receive mail notifications from a forum but unfortunately it's in the format membername@forumname. I just can't seem to recall how to filter just on the @forumname part. Any pointers? I use Header Contains thebat.dutaint.com to filter (and move to a folder) all emails from this list. You could try: Header Contains @forumname, and if that doesn't work then: Header Contains forumname. Mark Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter question
Hello Luc, Thursday, May 26, 2011, 6:49:40 AM, among other things, you wrote: L i receive mail notifications from a forum but unfortunately it's in L the format membername@forumname. L I just can't seem to recall how to filter just on the @forumname L part. L Any pointers? Try 'Recipient match @forumname' -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.44.2 POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hi On Tuesday 29 September 2009 at 6:33:22 AM, in mid:795040109.20090929073...@dbnmail.co.za, Roger Phillips wrote: Hello MFPA, Monday, September 28, 2009, 7:24:04 PM, among other things, you wrote: M I am going mad :( - Have you put the test filter at the head of the filter queue? That is always the best place for testing as it eliminates the possibility of interference by other filters as Marck Pearlstone was saying. And don't forget common filters vs account filters. As far as I remember, common are checked against first - if I have that wrong, somebody please shout. -- Best regards MFPA When you're caffeinated, all is right with the world Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Guten Tag Tom, am Sonntag, 27. September 2009 um 23:51 schrieben Sie: I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing - it's now if sender contains nam...@gmail.com move to folder XZY I am testing this on one highlighted message via refilter selected folder with the relevant boxes ticked. The message is not picked. I have cut and pasted the email address to avoid any typo. Did you ever check, if a previous Filter did match to this Message and maybe the Option Continue processing with other Filters is not set? Maybe the Filtering does not come until this Filter for your Message... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.10.12 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.5 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Language-File-Checksum: 92BB9EE6 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.6 r52128 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders - about 10 Messages Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Dear Tom, @28-Sep-2009, 07:51 +1000 (27-Sep 22:51 here) Tom [T] in mid:1324329289.20090928075...@sunnysydney.com said to Roger: ... snip T I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing - it's now T if sender contains nam...@gmail.com T move to folder XZY T I am testing this on one highlighted message via refilter selected T folder with the relevant boxes ticked. The message is not picked. T I have cut and pasted the email address to avoid any typo. Have you checked the log for that account? The log contains filtering information and will show which (if any) filters were triggered by that message. This will show if an earlier filter is matching and preventing the target filter from seeing the messages. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.2.10.12 on Windows Vista 6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 ' pgpFsgiWMfYLc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hi On Sunday 27 September 2009 at 10:51:25 PM, in mid:1324329289.20090928075...@sunnysydney.com, Tom wrote: I am going mad :( - It gets like that sometimes. I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing - it's now if sender contains nam...@gmail.com move to folder XZY Have you ticked the box automatically create if necessary when specifying where to move it, just in case? I am testing this on one highlighted message via refilter selected folder with the relevant boxes ticked. The message is not picked. I have cut and pasted the email address to avoid any typo. Is the test filter marked as active? If a common filter, is it shared with all accounts? What happens if you right-click the message and test filters? Have you tried setting up a hot-key combination to test the *actions* of the filter, in case the issue lies there and not in the filter *conditions*? -- Best regards MFPA Virtual workspace, Virtual Office, Virtual Job Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hello MFPA, Monday, September 28, 2009, 7:24:04 PM, among other things, you wrote: M I am going mad :( - Have you put the test filter at the head of the filter queue? That is always the best place for testing as it eliminates the possibility of interference by other filters as Marck Pearlstone was saying. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.10.12 POP3 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hello Tom, Saturday, September 26, 2009, 2:13:10 PM, among other things, you wrote: T Still no luck, tried to change it to T header field to or cc or bcc and sender contains ... but still T some messages won't budge. It looks as though something has perhaps become corrupted. Why not try writing a completely new filter from scratch? -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.10.12 POP3 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hi On Friday 25 September 2009 at 4:55:53 PM, in mid:632520461.20090925175...@gmx.de, Jens Franik wrote: Guten Tag MFPA, am Freitag, 25. September 2009 um 16:41 schrieben Sie: Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 Error or Truth? I *am* using The Bat! v4.0.38. Winver.exe shows my Windows version as 5.1 build 2600 but follows that with .xpclient.six numbers-four numbers. RITlabs download page presently shows the current version as 4.2.10 without the .0 on the end -- Best regards MFPA Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. -- Groucho Marx Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Guten Tag MFPA, am Sonntag, 27. September 2009 um 12:52 schrieben Sie: I *am* using The Bat! v4.0.38 That is what i have been wondering about, TNX. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.10.12 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.5 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Language-File-Checksum: 92BB9EE6 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.6 r52128 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders - about 10 Messages Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Sunday, September 27, 2009, 4:49:19 PM, you wrote: It looks as though something has perhaps become corrupted. Why not try writing a completely new filter from scratch? I am going mad :( - I tried to simplify the filter purely for testing - it's now if sender contains nam...@gmail.com move to folder XZY I am testing this on one highlighted message via refilter selected folder with the relevant boxes ticked. The message is not picked. I have cut and pasted the email address to avoid any typo. -- Tom using TheBat! 4.2.9.1 on XP Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Saturday, September 26, 2009, 12:41:17 AM, you wrote: Hi On Friday 25 September 2009 at 12:21:00 AM, in mid:415057556.20090924182...@fastmail.fm, Stuart Cuddy wrote: Hello Tom, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:06:04 PM, you wrote: T I have however tried some radical changes and even T for these some messages do not move: T if header contains j@company.com and sender match T sharyn...@isp.com move to folder ABC You may not want to use Match as I think this refers to regex. I thought matches all as regexp was the only condition that took regexps. I was also wondering whether match worked if you just included the email address or just the name but the message had both. My testing shows it does. Still no luck, tried to change it to header field to or cc or bcc and sender contains ... but still some messages won't budge. -- Tom using TheBat! 4.2.9.1 on XP Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hi On Friday 25 September 2009 at 12:21:00 AM, in mid:415057556.20090924182...@fastmail.fm, Stuart Cuddy wrote: Hello Tom, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:06:04 PM, you wrote: T I have however tried some radical changes and even T for these some messages do not move: T if header contains j@company.com and sender match T sharyn...@isp.com move to folder ABC You may not want to use Match as I think this refers to regex. I thought matches all as regexp was the only condition that took regexps. I was also wondering whether match worked if you just included the email address or just the name but the message had both. My testing shows it does. -- Best regards MFPA Nothing a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster won't cure! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Guten Tag MFPA, am Freitag, 25. September 2009 um 16:41 schrieben Sie: Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 Error or Truth? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.10.12 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.1 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Language-File-Checksum: 92BB9EE6 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.6 r52128 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders - about 10 Messages Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Guten Tag Tom, am Donnerstag, 24. September 2009 um 04:38 schrieben Sie: I cannot figure out how to set the rule so that it works even if the email was sent to y, z, a, b and c. If you do not see the Filter Condition in the To: or Cc: Field, you have to parse the Headers. But simply Receipient contains m...@email.adr should do the job in most cases. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:je...@gmx.de The Bat! 4.2.10.12 + AntiSpamSniper 3.2.1.1 + Gaijin XMP Makro Plugin 1.2 Language-File-Checksum: E8E56F88 Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon Dual Core 4850e 2,50 GHz, 4 GB RAM Debian Lenny + Windows XP @VirtualBox 3.0.6 r52128 non-OSE 8 POP3 Accounts - 1 IMAP - 170 (Common) Folders - about 10 Messages Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hi On Thursday 24 September 2009 at 3:38:09 AM, in mid:415846758.20090924123...@sunnysydney.com, Tom wrote: I set up a filter to move incoming emails to a special account if sender contains xx and recipient contains y. This works well if the recipient is only y. I cannot figure out how to set the rule so that it works even if the email was sent to y, z, a, b and c. A few thoughts:- Is y an email address or a name? If a name, is it stated slightly differently in the email sent to y, z, a, b and c that does not end up in the folder you want? Assuming y is your address, are any of z, a, b or c yours as well? Is it a common filter or a filter on one account? Are the messages addressed to y, z, a, b and c coming in through an account the filter is active on? Does the filter have continue processing with other filters selected, and if so could a filter further down the list be moving the message addressed to y, z, a, b and c back out of the folder your filter described above has moved it to? Does it make any difference if you change the order of the filter conditions? (recipient contains y and sender contains xx instead of sender contains xx and recipient contains y) -- Best regards MFPA Reality is nothing but a collective hunch. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hiya T I set up a filter to move incoming emails to a special account if T sender contains xx and recipient contains y. T This works well if the recipient is only y. I cannot figure out how T to set the rule so that it works even if the T email was sent to y, z, T a, b and c. Assuming I have I understood you correctly: it works here too, My test filter reads: Sender contains fred AND Recipient contains f...@tiscali.co.uk [ the recipient field contained at least 15 addresses ] Is that what you meant ? If not can you post your non working filter. I had never thought about this before but recipient seems to check both the CC: and To: values. -- Graham *** 7.5: Message scanned prior to sending - no viruses found *** Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Thursday, September 24, 2009, 11:41:38 PM, you wrote: A few thoughts:- Is y an email address or a name? If a name, is it stated slightly differently in the email sent to y, z, a, b and c that does not end up in the folder you want? Assuming y is your address, are any of z, a, b or c yours as well? Is it a common filter or a filter on one account? Are the messages addressed to y, z, a, b and c coming in through an account the filter is active on? Does the filter have continue processing with other filters selected, and if so could a filter further down the list be moving the message addressed to y, z, a, b and c back out of the folder your filter described above has moved it to? Does it make any difference if you change the order of the filter conditions? (recipient contains y and sender contains xx instead of sender contains xx and recipient contains y) thanks everyone for their responses. Ok, here are some additional details: the exact filter is: recipient contains j@company.com and sender contains sharyn move to folder ABC however the sender's email address is sharyn...@isp.com so I suppose it should make no difference with respect to your first question. As mentioned it works fine for a single recipient but nothing happens when the incoming email is as follows: from Header: from: sharyn...@isp.com to: sharyn...@isp.com, j...@company.com, sa...@company.com cc: j@company.com, some...@someothercompany.com Question: is cc not considered to be a recipient? What would be the filter rule in that case? The filter is active and any previous filter is set to continue processing. Haven't tried the last suggestion yet. I have however tried some radical changes and even for these some messages do not move: if header contains j@company.com and sender match sharyn...@isp.com move to folder ABC with the offending email being: from sharyn...@isp.com to j@company.com, j...@company.com, sa...@company.com cc external addresses. stumped... -- Tom using TheBat! 4.2.9.1 on XP Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hello Tom, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:06:04 PM, you wrote: T I have however tried some radical changes and even for these some T messages do not move: T if header contains j@company.com T and sender match sharyn...@isp.com T move to folder ABC You may not want to use Match as I think this refers to regex. -- Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! v4.2.10.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter issue
Hello Tom, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 4:38:09 AM, among other things, you wrote: T I set up a filter to move incoming emails to a special account if T sender contains xx and recipient contains y. T This works well if the recipient is only y. I cannot figure out how T to set the rule so that it works even if the email was sent to y, z, T a, b and c. Such a filter works OK here! I found an old message which had multiple addressees in the 'To' field and copied it to my 'Inbox'. I then set up a filter as you described and used the re-filter command, and the message was moved as the test filter told it to do. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.10.12 POP3 , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter incorrect?
[Reply to: »Luc« · 2009-03-19 · 00:33 h (CET)] Moin, Luc! Okay, I use that one, too. :-) Try: Options… = Filtering = White list of email addresses Maybe the White list of email addresses will not work because the sender's address in the mailing list is *not* t...@yahoogroups.com, but his own address. So I would recommend to use white rules: Options… = Filtering = White rules Just import there the attached rule. – I hope that helps. :-) Btw, how did you know that the plug-in filters incoming messages *before* incoming mail filters are triggered? Is this the normal method with TB!? Or did i miss something in my filter 'translation'? Ummm, first of all I think, that I read about it somewhere a long time ago, and second of all it is the only logical order: 1. Filter Junk/Spam/Viruses 2. Filter real/normal messages Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[the%20bat%21]%20 Using The Bat! 4.1.11.8 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« ·-· | Attachment(s)/Anlage(n) | ·-·--· | · TBOT_WhiteRule.xml ·· Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter incorrect?
[Reply to: »Volker Ahrendt« · 2009-03-19 · 10:55 h (CET)]
Options… = Filtering = White rules
Just import there the attached rule. – I hope that helps. :-)
Sh**! Forgot, that attachments are forbidden. So download the file
here: http://www.ahrendt.net/share/TBOT_WhiteRule.zip
Cheers!
VA
- --
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mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[the%20bat%21]%20
Using The Bat! 4.1.11.8 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3.
»The story so far: In the beginning the Universe was created. This has
made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad
move.«
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Re: Filter incorrect?
Good afternoon Volker, It was foretold that on 19/03/2009 @ 10:55:07 GMT+0100 (which was 06:55:07 where I live) Volker Ahrendt would write: snipped a bit Maybe the White list of email addresses will not work because the sender's address in the mailing list is *not* t...@yahoogroups.com, but his own address. So I would recommend to use white rules: Options… = Filtering = White rules Just import there the attached rule. – I hope that helps. :-) Tnx ... i'll download the file ;-) Btw, how did you know that the plug-in filters incoming messages *before* incoming mail filters are triggered? Is this the normal method with TB!? Or did i miss something in my filter 'translation'? Ummm, first of all I think, that I read about it somewhere a long time ago, and second of all it is the only logical order: 1. Filter Junk/Spam/Viruses 2. Filter real/normal messages Ofcourse it is lol! tnx a lot! -- Best regards, Luc Using the best e-mail client: The Bat! version 4.1.5 with Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 2 and using the best browser: Opera. On the other hand, you have different fingers. Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter incorrect?
[Reply to: »Luc« · 2009-03-18 · 22:01 h (CET)] Moin, Luc! I'm using the following filter to filter messages from tbot list. But they all get marked as junk. Is there something wrong with my filter? You should whitelist the TBOT Mailing List in your Anti Junk Plug-in, because the plug-in filters incoming messages *before* incoming mail filters are triggered. Which Anti Junk Plug-in are you using? Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[the%20bat%21]%20 Using The Bat! 4.1.11.7 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter incorrect?
Good evening Volker, It was foretold that on 18/03/2009 @ 22:26:18 GMT+0100 (which was 18:26:18 where I live) Volker Ahrendt would write: You should whitelist the TBOT Mailing List in your Anti Junk Plug-in, because the plug-in filters incoming messages *before* incoming mail filters are triggered. Ah, haven't thought of that ... gonna give it a try :-) Which Anti Junk Plug-in are you using? Antispamsniper for TB! plug-in -- Best regards, Luc Using the best e-mail client: The Bat! version 4.1.5 with Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 2 and using the best browser: Opera. The first time I see a jogger smiling, I'll consider it. - Joan Rivers. Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter incorrect?
[Reply to: »Luc« · 2009-03-18 · 23:18 h (CET)] Moin, Luc! You should whitelist the TBOT Mailing List in your Anti Junk Plug-in, because the plug-in filters incoming messages *before* incoming mail filters are triggered. Ah, haven't thought of that ... gonna give it a try :-) Which Anti Junk Plug-in are you using? Antispamsniper for TB! plug-in Okay, I use that one, too. :-) Try: Options… = Filtering = White list of email addresses Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! mailto:va%20%3...@ahrendt.net%3e?subject=[the%20bat%21]%20 Using The Bat! 4.1.11.7 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 3. »Infinity itself looks flat and uninteresting. Looking up into the night sky is looking into infinity – distance is incomprehensible and therefore meaningless.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter incorrect?
Good evening Volker, It was foretold that on 18/03/2009 @ 23:30:05 GMT+0100 (which was 19:30:05 where I live) Volker Ahrendt would write: Okay, I use that one, too. :-) Try: Options… = Filtering = White list of email addresses Done ... sending test message as we speak :-) -- Best regards, Luc Using the best e-mail client: The Bat! version 4.1.5 with Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 2 and using the best browser: Opera. Will the information superhighway have any rest stops? Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter incorrect?
Good evening Volker, It was foretold that on 18/03/2009 @ 23:30:05 GMT+0100 (which was 19:30:05 where I live) Volker Ahrendt would write: snipped a bit Okay, I use that one, too. :-) Btw, how did you know that the plug-in filters incoming messages *before* incoming mail filters are triggered? Is this the normal method with TB!? Or did i miss something in my filter 'translation'? -- Best regards, Luc Using the best e-mail client: The Bat! version 4.1.5 with Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 2 and using the best browser: Opera. Atheism is a non prophet organisation. Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help needed
Hello Tom, All filters are set to continue processing with other filters. snipped So if filter rule 3 is met, the journey ends in folder Bounce but otherwise rule 4 should apply. You should then set filter 3 to NOT continue processing with other filters -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.1.11.6 See some of my photos at http://www.Rancho-K.com Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter
Hallo Eddie, On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:56:18 +0100GMT (14-12-2008, 15:56 +0100, where I live), you wrote: EC Could you please look at this filter? I'd like to do that, but the best way to check a filter is by pasting it into your own sorting office and you're making that kind of difficult by placing silly characters like '| in front of every line, so we cannot easily cpopy and paste it. EC It doesn't work as it should. My idea is to filter the TBUDL EC Mission Statement based on Subject and Recipient. Any idea why it EC doesn't do as intended? Many thanks My first guess would be that you've placed it below your regular TBUDL filter and as that is triggered by the meesage, that message won't trigger any other filters. -- Groetjes, Roelof Nobody notices when things go right, I'm always noticed. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.39.39 (BETA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgprzX6yRl9M3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter
Dear Roelof,
-- Sonntag, 14. Dezember 2008, 15:39:59:
EC Could you please look at this filter?
I'd like to do that, but the best way to check a filter is by
pasting it into your own sorting office and you're making that kind
of difficult by placing silly characters like '| in front of every
line, so we cannot easily cpopy and paste it.
Ok sorry for that *gg*. I post it again below.
BTW - thanks for filling the Subject ;)
EC It doesn't work as it should. My idea is to filter the TBUDL
EC Mission Statement based on Subject and Recipient. Any idea why
EC it doesn't do as intended? Many thanks
My first guess would be that you've placed it below your regular
TBUDL filter and as that is triggered by the meesage, that message
won't trigger any other filters.
No, it's before the TBUDL
BTW - the filter is a Common Filter
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [7443B0B0.01C95DF8.0DF36577.31D2DB58]
Name: TBUDL\20Mission\20Statement
Filter:
{\0d\0a\20`2`2`tbudl\20mission\20statement\0d\0a0`1`0`tb...@thebat.dutaint.com\0d\0a}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CTheBat\5CTB!\20udl\20(e)\5CRegister
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
--
liebe Grüsse
www.EddieCastelli.com
Eddie :ec:
on Tour
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Re: filter
Hallo Eddie, On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:13:10 +0100GMT (14-12-2008, 18:13 +0100, where I live), you wrote: EC No, it's before the TBUDL Well, that's your first mistake, make it a subfilter of the tbudl filter that makes it easier to filter, because only need the subject. EC BTW - the filter is a Common Filter Did you enable sharing with the account that receives the tbudl messages? -- Groetjes, Roelof Where law ends, there tyranny begins. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.39.39 (BETA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpeegwbIWgVk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter
Dear Roelof, -- Sonntag, 14. Dezember 2008, 17:40:02: EC No, it's before the TBUDL Well, that's your first mistake, make it a subfilter of the tbudl filter that makes it easier to filter, because only need the subject. How to create a subfilter? You mean by that a filter by itself below TBUDL? EC BTW - the filter is a Common Filter Did you enable sharing with the account that receives the tbudl messages? Yes. -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter
Hallo Eddie, On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:52:29 +0100GMT (14-12-2008, 18:52 +0100, where I live), you wrote: EC How to create a subfilter? You mean by that a filter by itself below EC TBUDL? Select the tbudl filter in the sorting office and select in the menu: File - New subfilter -- Groetjes, Roelof Postscript: The only thing of interest in some letters. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.39.39 (BETA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpEE2b2H6ayu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter
Dear Roelof, -- Sonntag, 14. Dezember 2008, 17:56:23: EC How to create a subfilter? You mean by that a filter by itself EC below TBUDL? Select the tbudl filter in the sorting office and select in the menu: File - New subfilter Thanks now it works. My mistake was that when re-filtering I the two boxes 'read messages' and 'replied messages' under rules had a mark. I was assuming that I don't need to mark 'incoming mail'. Thanks a lot. BTW - may i guide your attention to my posting from early this day? Many thanks! 766128752.20081214101...@gmail.com -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter
Hallo Eddie, On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:09:41 +0100GMT (14-12-2008, 19:09 +0100, where I live), you wrote: EC BTW - may i guide your attention to my posting from early this day? EC Many thanks! 766128752.20081214101...@gmail.com You can try, but next time mention it as mid:766128752.20081214101...@gmail.com otherwise TB thinks it's an e-mail address. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 079 Mouse not found - A mouse driver has not been installed. Please click the left mouse button to continue. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.1.1 RC1 (BETA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp6RGARmxinx.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter
Dear tracer, -- Montag, 15. Dezember 2008, 00:02:52: Thanks now it works. My mistake was that when re-filtering I the two boxes 'read messages' and 'replied messages' under rules had a mark. I was assuming that I don't need to mark 'incoming mail'. If as I am assuming you are filtering on mail just arriving from the internet, I would say you need incoming mail marked as to be filtered. On the other hand once stored in its proper place if more then one is marked I would imagine it doesn't do any harm (except waste some time...) when refiltering. The msg was in his destination folder, so to my understanding it was 'read message'. Therefore I didn't see the need to mark the 'incoming mail'. 'Refilter selected messages' is your time saving mark. -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter
Dear Roelof, -- Montag, 15. Dezember 2008, 00:38:48: EC BTW - may i guide your attention to my posting from early this EC day? Many thanks! 766128752.20081214101...@gmail.com You can try, but next time mention it as mid:766128752.20081214101...@gmail.com otherwise TB thinks it's an e-mail address. yup. I usually insert the 'mid:' but this time I thought not to make it to easy for you as you have already much work ;) -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter
Hello Gunivortus,
Saturday, April 26, 2008, 12:50:12 PM, you wrote:
Often there's an unknowm name added, like:
- From: hewett kalappa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- From: brand hugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- From: Amazing Watches [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The 'recieved from' paths are of course wrong.
Lots of different servers send me bouncing and similar mails for it.
How could I filter them as spam, but 'good' returned mails exclude from it?
Maybe try something like this but add something to the header
contains none of to pick up your own genuine bounces - like your name...
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [A9DF5589.01C6BD8F.11AE46F0.7483A6B4]
Name: Mail\20Delivery\20System
Filter:
{\0D\0A\20`0`10`Mail\20Delivery\20System/0D/0AMail\20Delivery\20Subsystem/0D/0AMAILER-DAEMON/0D/0APostmaster\0D\0A1`2`10`Returned\20mail/0D/0AReturned\20to\20Sender/0D/0ADelivery\20Failure/0D/0Afailure\20notice/0D/0ADelivery\20Status\20Notification/0D/0AUndelivered\20Mail/0D/0AUndeliverable\20mail/0D/0Acould\20not\20be\20delivered/0D/0AUndeliverable\20Email\0D\0A0`5`12`TBUDL/0D/0Atbudl\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5CMail_Delivery_System
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
--
Best regards,
MFPA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Filter questions
Hello REZK945, I want to create a filter rule which does the following: Every not-gpg-signed email will get an automatic generated answer. I'm not familiar with gpg or pgp, etc., but I assume there must be something unique to those messages. An specific header field, or textt within the body. Let's assume the uniqueness is -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- in the body. You would need a filter with condition: Text .does not contain. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- and with Action 'Send automatic reply'. For my explanations below, lets call this filter 'GPG Filter' Exceptions: My suggestion would be to NOT include exceptions in the same filter with .AND NOT. conditions, but to set up a separate filter for each exception. Much more clear and easier to manage. Your filter structure should be: Exception 1 Exception 2 ... GPG Filter For this structure to work, nonre of the filter should have the 'Continue processing with other filters' option selected. - some guys from my contacts can be left out because they use bloody webmailer anyway which makes it harder for them to install and use GPG (they are not very familiar with computers). I think those guys have to be added manually which is what I have already done. Maybe a group could be a better solution? Yes, I thing using an AB Groups is a much better idea. Exception 1 Filter Address groups groupname contains sender - Newsletter etc. - I try to capture them by looking at the topic newsticker and newsletter. But I am not sure whether I get all of them. Exception 2 filter Subject contains newsticker .OR. Sublect contains newsletter - Amazon, ebay etc - IIRC they do not send information emails with newsletter topic. How can I get them? This would be your 'Exception 3' filter, and you must look for something unique in those messages. Perhaps the domain of the sender?. If so: Exception 3 filter Header field From: contains @amazon.com .OR. Header field From: contains @ebay.com - Some other mass mails with more than say 5 recipants. Any chance to capture them? Maybe with something like: Recipient match RegExp But I am not at all familiar with Regular Expressions to suggest one. Sorry. Maybe there are some more exceptions, but I hope to identify them soon. Just add a new filter before the GPG one. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Hope mine are of some help. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.17 (ALPHA) Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Tuesday, January 22, 2008, 12:03:30 PM, you wrote: T Anyway, I will try to inactivate the filter and see what happens T first. Don't inactivate any filter. Just take that frigging tickmark off the Continue option in the first filter, that's all. Thomas, thanks again for your patience. Everything is working fine now. I realise that I did not fully understand the meaning of the sequential filters and the tickmark. I believed that without the tickmark the following filters would not come into play at all (even for other messages). I also thought once a message had been moved following filters were not relevant anymore. I will be more careful with my filtering in future. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:02:50 +1100 GMT (22/01/2008, 19:02 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T thanks again for your patience. T Everything is working fine now. You are most welcome. Thanks for your feedback. -- Cheers, Thomas. Was ist ein Optimist ? - Jemand der das eine Fernsehprogramm langweilig findet und auf das andere umschaltet! http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:09:12 +1100 GMT (21/01/2008, 11:09 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T here we go again: T 1. Filter: This is in Account A. It moves the messages to the bounce folder in Account B. You say it works. T 2. Filter: Is this also in Account A? Since the first filter is set to continue, the messages will now be moved back from the Bounce folder to the Customer In folder. My suggestion: Take the Continue tickmark off the 1. Filter. T 3. Filter: If this is in Account B, the message won't be filtered. The filters are only triggered when messages arrive in the account directly, not via filtering action. T hope that helps. Yes, I imported the filters and took a look at the settings. If I got it right in which accounts the filters are, I hope this helps you. If I am mistaken about the accounts, please clarify before I delete the filters again from my Sorting Office. -- Cheers, Thomas. Unter dem Einfluss von Alkohol griff eine naechtliche Polizeistreife einen Pkw-Fahrer aus Minden. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hi On Monday 21 January 2008 at 5:09:16 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Christopher W. wrote: If you copy it into a new message, then you can hold down ALT and do a columnar selection. Wow that's cool! Is it a TB! feature or a general wp feature? -- Best regards, MFPA Hard work never killed anyone, but why take a risk? Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
MFPA @ 2008-1-21 9:39:23 AM Filter Help mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you copy it into a new message, then you can hold down ALT and do a columnar selection. Wow that's cool! Is it a TB! feature or a general wp feature? It seems to be a feature of more powerful text editors, like MicroEd and my Notepad replacement, Programmer's Notepad (http://www.pnotepad.org/). There is also line selection mode, which selects lines at a time. The normal is stream selection mode. -- Christopher Using The Bat! v3.99.29 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. If you hear an onion ring, answer it. pgpNB3Y5L77p5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Monday, January 21, 2008, 11:08:29 PM, you wrote: Hello Tom, On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:09:12 +1100 GMT (21/01/2008, 11:09 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T here we go again: T 1. Filter: This is in Account A. It moves the messages to the bounce folder in Account B. You say it works. T 2. Filter: Is this also in Account A? Since the first filter is set to continue, the messages will now be moved back from the Bounce folder to the Customer In folder. My suggestion: Take the Continue tickmark off the 1. Filter. T 3. Filter: If this is in Account B, the message won't be filtered. The filters are only triggered when messages arrive in the account directly, not via filtering action. T hope that helps. Yes, I imported the filters and took a look at the settings. If I got it right in which accounts the filters are, I hope this helps you. If I am mistaken about the accounts, please clarify before I delete the filters again from my Sorting Office. Thomas, thanks for your assistance. You are right with respect to the accounts but that does not fully solve the issue. I understand now that my third filter only works on bounces aimed to Account B directly. So this won't help me with bounces from my automated account. However I would still like to filter bounces from this account to the bounce folder. Your suggestion to remove the second filter causes a problem due to a misunderstanding. The first filter moving bounces from Account A to Account B does not work correctly. Instead of moving the messages to the Bounce Folder of Account B, it drops the messages into Customer In / Account B. Or more likely, it does not work at all as the second filter on Account A is meant to do exactly that. The reason is that the account is not only used for automated emails but also for customers trying to contact us by form. I am not sure I understand the logic behind your suggestion re 2. Filter. You indicate that as my first filter is set to continue, the second filter may undo the work of the first filter. I will test your suggestion but would have thought that once moved based on 1. Filter, the second filter should not have any power over those emails anymore. If it works this way, can we amend the 2. Filter to exclude certain emails? Anyway, I will try to inactivate the filter and see what happens first. Thanks for your help. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:16:29 +1100 GMT (22/01/2008, 04:16 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T Thomas, thanks for your assistance. You are right with respect to the T accounts but that does not fully solve the issue. OK. Good that we are clear which filter is in which account. T I understand now that my third filter only works on bounces aimed T to Account B directly. So this won't help me with bounces from my T automated account. Correct. T However I would still like to filter bounces from this account to T the bounce folder. That's what the third filter does. Nothing wrong with it. T Your suggestion to remove the second filter causes a problem due to T a misunderstanding. No! I don't suggest you remove any filter. T The first filter moving bounces from Account A to Account B does T not work correctly. Instead of moving the messages to the Bounce T Folder of Account B, it drops the messages into Customer In / T Account B. The first filter moves the messages into the Bounce folder. It works. T I am not sure I understand the logic behind your suggestion re 2. T Filter. T You indicate that as my first filter is set to continue, the T second filter may undo the work of the first filter. Exactly. In order for your requirements to work, you need to take the tickmark off the Option Continue with other fitlers from the FIRST filter. When happens now is that the first filter moves the message to the Bounce folder (check out Folder / Browse Deleted in that folder for illustration), and then the second filter again moves it, this time to the Customer In folder. The only way to prevent this is by telling the first filter to stop processing the messages it catches. Then the second filter won't be applied. T I will test your suggestion but would have thought that once moved T based on 1. Filter, the second filter should not have any power T over those emails anymore. Usually it doesn't. But you explicetely gave it this power by ticking on Continue with other filters. Take the tickmark off and you'll be fine. T If it works this way, can we amend the 2. Filter to exclude certain T emails? What do you have in mind? T Anyway, I will try to inactivate the filter and see what happens T first. Don't inactivate any filter. Just take that frigging tickmark off the Continue option in the first filter, that's all. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Unter dem Einfluss von Alkohol griff eine naechtliche Polizeistreife einen Pkw-Fahrer aus Minden. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom,
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:38:17 +1100 GMT (20/01/2008, 14:38 +0700 GMT),
Tom wrote:
T What exactly do you want me to post? I thought I had provided the
T details of the filter already?
To post the filter, you right-click on it and choose copy. Then you
paste it into your message. I am posting my TBUDL filter here for
demonstration:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [2E74A880.01C4933A.0405FBCE.7C686508]
Name: TBUDL
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`2`Reply-To:.*TBUDL\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CGmane\5CBat\20TBUDL
IsActive
Ignore
IsSendQueue
endFilter
Now, anybody can copy and paste this block into the Sortiung Office
and then test teh filter, or see what the conditions etc are.
T I thought I had provided the details of the filter already?
Yes, but my guess is that you overlooked something.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
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Re: Filter Help
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 7:47:17 PM, you wrote:
To post the filter, you right-click on it and choose copy. Then you
paste it into your message. I am posting my TBUDL filter here for
demonstration:
Yes, but my guess is that you overlooked something.
thanks - I am sure you are right - here are the details:
This filter is on the account that actually carries the incoming
message:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [5B3C4E3A.01C855C5.5F44B337.2684A21A]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`4`0`Mail\20Delivery\20\0D\0A1`5`0`Mailer-Daemon\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
The following filter is again on the incoming account and set behind
the first filter - this one works though does not help with the bounce
as it captures everything:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [0154AE7A.01C76B43.43122CF8.5E5344DC]
Name: Customerservice
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CCUSTOMER\20IN
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
The third filter below is on the main account. I assume if the first
filter worked properly, I would not even need the second filter.
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [1D164CA0.01C854DF.6E62D0E0.2EAE5A67]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`MAIL\20Delivery\0D\0A1`5`0`MAILER-DAEMON\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
--
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Re: Filter Help
Hi On Sunday 20 January 2008 at 8:47:17 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: Yes, but my guess is that you overlooked something. Like maybe a tick in continue processing with other filters? -- Best regards, MFPA No matter where you go, there you are. Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello MFPA, On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:06:51 + GMT (21/01/2008, 04:06 +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: Yes, but my guess is that you overlooked something. M Like maybe a tick in continue processing with other filters? We will see this when we import the filters. -- Cheers, Thomas. BALDERDASH: Rapidly receding hairline http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:39:16 +1100 GMT (21/01/2008, 03:39 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T This filter is on the account that actually carries the incoming T message: TB! Message Filter Please post the filters without the at the beginning. The way you posted them, I would have to copy from your mail into a word processor, take all these quote marks out manually, and then copy from there into the Sorting Office. I'm not going through this trouble. Just copy and paste into the mail straightforward. -- Cheers, Thomas. If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Monday, January 21, 2008, 12:56:57 PM, you wrote:
TB! Message Filter
Please post the filters without the at the beginning. The way you
posted them, I would have to copy from your mail into a word
processor, take all these quote marks out manually, and then copy from
there into the Sorting Office.
sorry about this :(
here we go again:
1. Filter:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [5B3C4E3A.01C855C5.5F44B337.2684A21A]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`4`0`Mail\20Delivery\20\0D\0A1`5`0`Mailer-Daemon\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
2. Filter:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [0154AE7A.01C76B43.43122CF8.5E5344DC]
Name: Customerservice
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CCUSTOMER\20IN
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
3. Filter:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [1D164CA0.01C854DF.6E62D0E0.2EAE5A67]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`MAIL\20Delivery\0D\0A1`5`0`MAILER-DAEMON\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
hope that helps.
--
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Re: Filter Help
Thomas Fernandez @ 2008-1-20 7:56:57 PM Filter Help mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please post the filters without the at the beginning. The way you posted them, I would have to copy from your mail into a word processor, take all these quote marks out manually, and then copy from there into the Sorting Office. If you copy it into a new message, then you can hold down ALT and do a columnar selection. -- Christopher Using The Bat! v3.99.25 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. How do I set my laser printer on stun? pgpnUlzaUWxDC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, A reminder of what Tom typed on: Saturday, January 19, 2008 at 10:41:08 GMT +1100 T Is there a better criteria I should look for in the header for my T filter or another reason why my setup is failing. I just would like T all incoming mails in Account B with the bounces separated from the T other emails. I use a filter that filters on the Subject as follows: Subject contains any of the following Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed Delivery Status Notification (Failure) failure notice Mail status report Mail System Error - Returned Mail Returned mail: see transcript for details Undeliverable: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender This seems to work OK, but I don't kknow why your method should not work, assuming you have everything setup correctly. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.12 (ALPHA) On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Hello Tom, On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:41:08 +1100 GMT (20/01/2008, 06:41 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T This filter is set up as: if recipient contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] move to T the folder \Account B\Customer in. T This works fine. T I put up a new filter ahead of this for the bounces: T if Text contains Mail Delivery or Header contains Mailer-Daemon T move to the folder \\Account B\Bounce. This should work, I think. You also said that you put the filter ahead of the customer filter, which is important, as the filters are checked from top to bottom, in that order. I believe there is another problem, somewhere were you didn't look. If possible, I suggest you post the filter here so we can play with it. -- Cheers, Thomas. If you have a glass eye, tap on it occasionally with your pen while talking to others. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 1:43:54 PM, you wrote: Hello Tom, On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:41:08 +1100 GMT (20/01/2008, 06:41 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T This filter is set up as: if recipient contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] move to T the folder \Account B\Customer in. T This works fine. T I put up a new filter ahead of this for the bounces: T if Text contains Mail Delivery or Header contains Mailer-Daemon T move to the folder \\Account B\Bounce. This should work, I think. You also said that you put the filter ahead of the customer filter, which is important, as the filters are checked from top to bottom, in that order. I believe there is another problem, somewhere were you didn't look. If possible, I suggest you post the filter here so we can play with it. What exactly do you want me to post? I thought I had provided the details of the filter already? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter
Hello Secret, On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:37:32 +1100 GMT (11/12/2007, 19:37 +0700 GMT), Secret Squirrel wrote: SS I have a filter that moves emails from a certain email address to SS a folder. How do I add an exception to it? Specifically, SS I want the rule to only move the emails from the inbox to this SS other folder if they don't contain the letters re: or SS RE: or Re: (so in other words, if it is a reply, put the SS email in the inbox, otherwise put it into this other folder). Add a condition to the filter: Subject does not start with Re: I think it is even case-insensitive, so it should cover all. -- Cheers, Thomas. Woran erkennen Sie, das Sie als Bedienung nichts taugen? Sie halten Caipirinha fur einen fleischfressenden Fisch. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter
Hello Secret, A reminder of what Secret Squirrel typed on: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 23:37:32 GMT +1100 SS I have a filter that moves emails from a certain email address to a SS folder. How do I add an exception to it? Specifically, I want the rule SS to only move the emails from the inbox to this other folder if they SS don't contain the letters re: or RE: or Re: (so in other words, SS if it is a reply, put the email in the inbox, otherwise put it into SS this other folder). Add a condition that says AND Subject does not contain re: -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.99.29 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: re-filter
Hello Thomas, Not sure I understand what you mean... To clarify, when I run re-filter manually for my inbox TB appears to have captured the last counts from the previous manual re-filter, so right now it's showing 6 messages in my inbox as being processed and 1 filtered. Instead of clearing the number field to zero, TB appears to remember the last number count until the auto filters miss something in my inbox and I run the re-filter again to catch what TB leaves behind. The auto filter works a good 95% of the time leaving about 5% of the messages having not been filtered for some reason. -- Best regards, Timmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, November 16, 2007, 6:47:56 PM, you wrote: Hello Tim, On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:06:45 -0700 GMT (17/11/2007, 02:06 +0700 GMT), Tim Hamm wrote: TH Whenever I re-filter my inbox, even if there are no messages to filter TH TB reports that two messages have been filtered every single TH time. Does anyone have a solution to this? You have a filter that either has no action or filters messages into the Inbox. Two messages are caught by this filter. Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
re-filter
Hello TBUDL, Whenever I re-filter my inbox, even if there are no messages to filter TB reports that two messages have been filtered every single time. Does anyone have a solution to this? -- Best regards, Tim The Bat! v3.99.29 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: re-filter
Hello Tim, On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:06:45 -0700 GMT (17/11/2007, 02:06 +0700 GMT), Tim Hamm wrote: TH Whenever I re-filter my inbox, even if there are no messages to filter TH TB reports that two messages have been filtered every single TH time. Does anyone have a solution to this? You have a filter that either has no action or filters messages into the Inbox. Two messages are caught by this filter. -- Cheers, Thomas. Reality is a crutch for people who can't face drugs. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter signal strings
Hello Neal, Thursday, October 11, 2007, 8:23:51 PM, among other things, you wrote: NL I've been trying to figure out how to get a signal string text file to NL work in v3.x filter. I want to kill messages on the server and have an NL external word list. Do I put a macro in filter condition or what? If you go into the Sorting Office (Shft+Ctrl+S) and Right Click on the Selective Download title and then choose New Filter, you will find that at the bottom of the right hand panel is an item 'Load strings from the file' and a place to enter or choose the file. It is some years since I tried to use this feature and at that time it was not always functional! You could use plain text strings or Regex. I am not sure what format is now acceptable but as far as I can remember the items were separated by the pipe symbol (|). A WORD OF WARNING! Don't under any circumstances set the filter to 'Delete' until you have tested it well with the 'Ignore' function, because if it cannot find the file, it is liable to match *EVERY* message in your mailbox. It was this kind of difficulty which made me give up trying to use it, I found it was more reliable to make the multiple entries in the filter itself. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v3.99.25 with AntiSpamSniper 2.6.1.2, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter signal strings
Hi Roger, Tuesday, October 16, 2007, 12:17:12 AM, you wrote: NL I've been trying to figure out how to get a signal string text file to NL work in v3.x filter. I want to kill messages on the server and have an NL external word list. Do I put a macro in filter condition or what? If you go into the Sorting Office (Shft+Ctrl+S) and Right Click on the Selective Download title and then choose New Filter, you will find that at the bottom of the right hand panel is an item 'Load strings from the file' and a place to enter or choose the file. No problem - I'm there - but the filter does not seem to pick up the file. I have one word per line (CR/LF) and it just will not look at the file./ I've tried referencing the file with the %PUT macro in a condition field but to no avail. It is some years since I tried to use this feature and at that time it was not always functional! Oh yes, I remember. v2 was different in that you could clipboard copy the text and paste it in the filter text field. My spam is so out of control I have to take more aggressive measures. -- Thanks, Neal Using TheBat! v3.99.24 (BETA) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter signal strings
Roger, NL No problem - I'm there - but the filter does not seem to pick up the NL file. That is what I meant about often being not functional. It seems things have not changed. I looked to see it there was a bug report on it, but I guess not. Maybe I'll make one. NL My spam is so out of control I have to take more aggressive measures. Why don't you use AntSpamSniper? It works very well and does delete some of the spam at the server, especially if you prepare a suitable Blacklist. It is a very safe programme in that one can fairly easily load in a Whitelist from one's address book, and it can be continuously be updated to include all addresses that are not marked as spam. I've been using the Agava plug-in with mixed results. I need to knock some of the more obvious one off one the server, but the H-Sphere CP I use in my websites only will blacklist URLs. I'll take a look at AntiSpam Sniper. Thanks much! -- Regards, Neal Using TheBat! v3.99.24 (BETA) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions
Hallo John, On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:12:40 +1000GMT (5-9-2007, 7:12 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JP Any easy way to move (or copy) a whole bunch of filters from one JP account to another, or to make existing filters common filters? The filters are stored in the account.srb file (account.erb for OTFE) in the account directory. (Mail directory for common filters) Closing TB and copying/moving the file to the new location used to work during the early stages of v3, but it hasn't been discussed on list for quite a long now, so that might have been changed. Create a backup and try it. Note that this means that your old filters in the target account will be lost. JP BTW, am I to understand that a common filter will apply to all JP ticked accounts? I presume this is the case but feel I may be getting JP (not a scientific feel mind you) some strange results. I don't use common filters myself, two of my three accounts are merely for some testing, so I don't need any filtering there. -- Groetjes, Roelof When I was a boy, when Fortran was only Twotran http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpTc5v5ltXQc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter questions
Roelof, On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, at 12:41:09 [GMT +0200] (20:41:09 05/09/2007 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: I don't use common filters myself, two of my three accounts are merely for some testing, so I don't need any filtering there. snip, etc. Thanks for the help. -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia Using Bat! 3.99.24, Windows XP, 2600, Service Pack 2 Dell Precision M70 Laptop, 1 Gig ram. Current version is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter for eMail addresses
Hello Roland, On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:01:32 +0200GMT Roland Burger wrote: RB is it possible to set a filter for an account so that only RB special addresses will be accepted? Create an address book for the acceptable addresses and configure the filter to accept only thoses. -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! 3.99.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter not working automatically
Hallo Marten, On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:30:45 +0100GMT (11-7-2007, 1:30 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MG Can anyone suggest why it needs to manually triggered, it will never pick MG up mail as it arrives? Logic suggests that the message is caught by another filter. Can't see any reason in this filter. MG Since there are no other filters in that account and none of the common MG filters affect that account - I have excluded that account from all common MG filters - then I suspect we have bug? And it's a regular account? Messages are received from a server, not filtered from another account? No other filters in the account? What about closing TB, delete the account.srb file. Start TB, paste the filter into the sorting office and try again. MG You think? Maybe... -- Groetjes, Roelof Dave...put those Windows disks down Dave...Dave..DAVE!!! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpgG5mZMzeh0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter not working automatically
Hallo Marten, On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:10:27 +0100GMT (10-7-2007, 14:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MG Can anyone suggest why it needs to manually triggered, it will never pick MG up mail as it arrives? Logic suggests that the message is caught by another filter. Can't see any reason in this filter. -- Groetjes, Roelof This program must die under Microsoft Windows. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.8 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpat58DVN0aP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter not working automatically
MG Can anyone suggest why it needs to manually triggered, it will never pick MG up mail as it arrives? Logic suggests that the message is caught by another filter. Can't see any reason in this filter. Since there are no other filters in that account and none of the common filters affect that account - I have excluded that account from all common filters - then I suspect we have bug? You think? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.99.3 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Thursday, April 26, 2007, 9:24:06 AM, you wrote: I think address books (you can have as many as you want/need) are very useful for this type of things because you can add and delete entries with filter actions. In your case it would be simple with a couple of filters. If the sender of a message is NOT in '1st time' AB, add him. And, if he is, he is obviously a returning customer and the filter can move the message to whatever folder you wish. Thanks a lot - this works fine for me. Took me a while to figure out how to set up the filters and to ensure that they work in the correct sequence and that all have the tick to continue, but once done I now get my alerts as requested. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Hello Tom, I think address books (you can have as many as you want/need) are very useful for this type of things because you can add and delete entries with filter actions. In your case it would be simple with a couple of filters. If the sender of a message is NOT in '1st time' AB, add him. And, if he is, he is obviously a returning customer and the filter can move the message to whatever folder you wish. Thanks a lot - this works fine for me. Glad to hear that :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Hello Tom, I would like to set up a filter to copy all incoming emails arriving in a specific account to a new folder or ideally virtual folder provided the sender's email is already in the original folder (ie. use the filter to notify me that an incoming email is from a known source as opposed to be a brand-new sender). Is this possible? Yes, it is possible in several ways. Perhaps the easiest and most straight forward way would be that you add your 'known sources' to the address book. Then, you can make Active the Known Incoming filter that is included by default by TB in the Sorting Office when an account is created. This way, messages from 'known sources' will be moved to Inbox-Known folder and the rest will just stay in normal Inbox. If you want to keep messages from 'known sources' in a separate folder for each, you can modify the action in Known filter and use the %FromName or %ABFromName macros for the folder name instead of 'Inbox-Known'. Also, when I fiddled with the folders, I set up a virtual folder linked to the original folder. This now shows all the emails from the original as I had not yet set up any filter. How can I get rid of it now. I am afraid deleting it will delete all original emails too, something I don't want to do? NO problem. If you delete a Virtual Folder the messages that were _shown_ (not stored) in it will stay in whatever real folder they were actually in. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Thursday, April 26, 2007, 2:59:12 AM, you wrote: Hello Tom, (ie. use the filter to notify me that an incoming email is from a known source as opposed to be a brand-new sender). Is this possible? Yes, it is possible in several ways. Perhaps the easiest and most straight forward way would be that you add your 'known sources' to the address book. Then, you can make Active the Known Incoming filter that is included by default by TB in the Sorting Office when an account is created. This way, messages from 'known sources' will be moved to Inbox-Known folder and the rest will just stay in normal Inbox. sorry, I was not clear enough - the incoming emails usually are not from known sources the first time. These are orders from customers. The majority will be new customers and new emails but over time some will be returning customers. These I would like to catch and review once they come in. However there is no need to filter them in individual folders. The trick with the address book won't work as I don't want to add each sender to the address book on the off chance that they may order multiple times. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Hello Tom, sorry, I was not clear enough - the incoming emails usually are not from known sources the first time. These are orders from customers. The majority will be new customers and new emails but over time some will be returning customers. These I would like to catch and review once they come in. However there is no need to filter them in individual folders. The trick with the address book won't work as I don't want to add each sender to the address book on the off chance that they may order multiple times. I think address books (you can have as many as you want/need) are very useful for this type of things because you can add and delete entries with filter actions. In your case it would be simple with a couple of filters. If the sender of a message is NOT in '1st time' AB, add him. And, if he is, he is obviously a returning customer and the filter can move the message to whatever folder you wish. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.99.3 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter incoming mails according to what time they were created
Monday, March 26, 2007, 12:09:43 AM, you wrote: Hello Tom, Sunday, March 25, 2007, 8:02:19 AM, among other things, you wrote: T Saturday, March 24, 2007, 7:52:05 PM, you wrote: Saturday, March 24, 2007, 7:47:50 PM, you wrote: for statistical purposes I would like to filter incoming mails of a specific account by the time they were created. My intention is to have one filter for all emails I receive that were created between 08.00AM and 05.00 pm. Similar filters for 5.00pm to midnight and midnight to 08.00AM. SNIP T Instead of trying to do this with virtual folders, I have now set up T common folders and use filters sequentially on the incoming account to T provide me with the info. T However, I don't like that I need to create copies - the beauty of a T virtual folder is that you don't create copies just links. T Also, the output is still not correct as some emails show up under T both officehour filter and evening filter. I checked and rechecked the T filter and they seem fine (time of creation) and I again wonder if T this has something to do with the info in source and this time T sometimes shown as 21.35 -7.00 ? Are you quite sure the filters don't overlap? For example, one ending at 08.00 and another starting at 08.00. Just a thought :-) While I have indeed the filters overlapping on these, this would only matter if the emails arrived on the hour. The problem affects other emails - one email was created at 2.18 pm and it appears both in officehours and evening. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter incoming mails according to what time they were created
Tom @ 2007-3-24 1:04:43 AM filter incoming mails according to what time they were created mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for statistical purposes I would like to filter incoming mails of a specific account by the time they were created. My intention is to have one filter for all emails I receive that were created between 08.00AM and 05.00 pm. Similar filters for 5.00pm to midnight and midnight to 08.00AM. SNIP I don't think I could do this with the easy conditions offered under filters? Have you looked at the Time Of filter? -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.98.4 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Notice in a dry cleaner's window: ANYONE LEAVING THEIR GARMENTS HERE FOR MORE THAN 30 DAYS WILL BE DISPOSED OF pgpgTAo4qVQ7M.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter incoming mails according to what time they were created
Saturday, March 24, 2007, 7:47:50 PM, you wrote: for statistical purposes I would like to filter incoming mails of a specific account by the time they were created. My intention is to have one filter for all emails I receive that were created between 08.00AM and 05.00 pm. Similar filters for 5.00pm to midnight and midnight to 08.00AM. SNIP I don't think I could do this with the easy conditions offered under filters? Have you looked at the Time Of filter? I did not see that before but I am filtering to a virtual folder and I would like to set the new filter to work on the virtual folder. Filter in virtual folders only provides for date or time interval not time of? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
