Re: New filters/re-filtering not working
Hello again, I wrote: > Any ideas as to what's going on here? Never mind. I think I've got it sorted. I just needed to reorder the priority of the filters, as one of them was to "park" all messages. Once I made sure all other filters came before the "park" filter, all is well again. :) -- Melissa 9.1.18 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New filters/re-filtering not working
Hello, I just created a new POP3 account, and created new folders into which I'd like to filter messages. After creating a new filter, and I try to "re-filter" the Inbox, nothing is filtered into the new folder, even though I know there are plenty of eligible messages. In all the years I've been using TB (since v1), I've never had this problem. I'm now using the latest [stable] version. Any ideas as to what's going on here? Thanks! -- Melissa Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recipient in Filters?
Hello Susanne, > I finally managed to set up my filter the way I want it. :) That's what counts. Congratulations!! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v9.0.16.6 (BETA) Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recipient in Filters?
Friday, February 7, 2020, 3:41:29 AM, MAU wrote: > Hello Susanne, >> in filters, does "Recipient" mean anyone in "To, CC, BCC" fields? > I think so. Thanks! Seems to be the case. I finally managed to set up my filter the way I want it. :) -- Best regards, Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com Using The Bat! 8.8.2 OS: Windows 10.0 Build 17763 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recipient in Filters?
Hello Susanne, > in filters, does "Recipient" mean anyone in "To, CC, BCC" fields? I think so. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (Els Poblets (Alicante) - Spain) Using The Bat! v9.0.16.6 (BETA) Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Recipient in Filters?
Hello, in filters, does "Recipient" mean anyone in "To, CC, BCC" fields? -- Best regards, Susanne mailto:sisk...@gmail.com Using The Bat! 8.8.2 OS: Windows 10.0 Build 17763 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "Contains" vs. "Matches" in Filters
Hello, Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 3:38:07 PM, Ian wrote: > Generally Contains looks for a complete match, and Matches looks for > the text anywhere in where you are looking. Thanks! I was seeing it exactly the other way! :) -- Best regards, Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com Using The Bat! 8.8.2 OS: Windows 10.0 Build 17763 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
"Contains" vs. "Matches" in Filters
Hi all, I'm fighting with filters again and am wondering what the difference is between sender/recipient contains any of and matches any of Having trouble setting up a filter where I want messages from a list of certain senders to go to one folder, unless one certain recipient is included, in which case they are supposed to go to a different folder. Can't seem to get this sorted, and wonder if I'm using the wrong terms in the filter. So: if sender is either A,B,C,D or E, message goes to folder 1, unless recipient includes X, in which case messages go to folder 2. -- Best regards, Susanne mailto:sisk...@gmail.com Using The Bat! 8.8.2 OS: Windows 10.0 Build 17763 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: restoring sorting office filters for one account
This follows my prior post in which I asked how to restore lost filters. After searching the forums at the Ritlabs website, I discovered that I could restore the filters by highlighting the account for which I wished to restore filers, clicking on "account" and then "sorting office/filters." In the window that opened, I then could click on "file" and "restore filters." That, in turn, opened up a dialogue box asking if I wanted to restore, I clicked yes and another folder with "orphan filters" opened up. However, I then had to manually copy, one by one, each of the dozen filters that I had into the inbox. If I tried to delete or cut the filter in the orphan filters directory, an error exception window would pop up and everything would freeze in the filters window. I then had to close that window and reopen the sorting filters/office window and do another restore. This raises several questions: 1. Why did this happen in the first place? It occurred, I am guessing, following my computer's forced shut down for a windows update. But why? What can be done to avoid this? 2. I didn't know that there were additional forums in addition to the two list serv e-mail groups for The Bat: this one and the beta forum . Does the online forum also have an e-mail list? 3. The messages in the online forums do not seem to be organized by date. Why not? Thanks for any insight you can provide. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 7.1.18 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
restoring sorting office filters for one account
Hi, Everyone, I have 20 mail accounts and most of them have filters. The filters for one of these accounts, which has one of the largest set of filters - 20 of them - have all disappeared. This happened overnight, when my laptop was taken over by an unannounced Windows updates (grrr). (As a separate issue, I had a dozen e-mail messages - at least - all open, and I now have to try and remember all that I was working on at the time. It would be nice if The Bat would automatically restore all open messages when there is an unexpected shutdown, in much the same way that Word or Excel will restore any open file.) I don't need to restore anything else other than the filters for this one account, and, I have downloaded and sent a number of messages from multiple accounts since the filters went missing. So, is it possible to restore the missing filters for this one account without having to recreate all of them or restoring my entire database? Thanks. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! Pro ver. 7.1.18 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in Imap (gmail) account?
Hello Tony, Saturday, April 30, 2016, 5:50:21 AM, you wrote: > you can click on Setting/Labels and manage which labels Gmail will > present to IMAP clients using the 'Show In IMAP' checkbox. > TB! as a mail client simply shows what it sees. > I hope that helps. Thank you! This was very helpful, especially the hint about the gmail settings for labels! I also noticed that all the folders I created in TB are automatically showing up in Gmail. I'm still confused by the numbers of mails reported by TB. For example, the Total has varied betwenn about 2000 to over 6000. If I add up the Total from all the folders in TB, the number is much lower. And just to make sure I understand Imap with TB correctly: the message are actually downloaded to my computer, correct? -- Best regards, Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com Using The Bat! 7.1.6.0 (Christmas Edition) OS: Windows 10.0 Build 10586 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in Imap (gmail) account?
Hello Susanne, Friday, April 29, 2016, 9:13:54 PM, you wrote: > Can someone please explain in simple terms which folders I should > subscribe to. > All Mail was definitely a mistake, as the messages are duplicated in > different folders. > And "inbox" is not a choice. > My folder tree in TB is a huge mess and filtering doesn't seem to work > well. I have subscribed to all folders except All Mail. I'm not a massive Gmail user and this was done many moons ago so I can't remember how this came about. I believe that Gmail's IMAP implementation is not like everyone else's in that Gmail stores all mail in a single folder and use Labels to separate it out. It then presents these separate labels as separate IMAP folders. Multiple messages can have multiple Labels and then appear in multiple IMAP folders. [Later] I have just discovered for myself that in Gmail web browser you can click on Setting/Labels and manage which labels Gmail will present to IMAP clients using the 'Show In IMAP' checkbox. TB! as a mail client simply shows what it sees. I hope that helps. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 7.1.18.3 (BETA) with IMAP on Windows 7 6.1.Service Pack 1 Build: 7601 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in Imap (gmail) account?
Hello Tony, Friday, April 29, 2016, 4:55:59 AM, you wrote: > They'll appear when you use > Manage IMAP Folders, select the folders to subscribe to and then click > OK. I'm having a hard time understanding IMAP with TB. Can someone please explain in simple terms which folders I should subscribe to. All Mail was definitely a mistake, as the messages are duplicated in different folders. And "inbox" is not a choice. My folder tree in TB is a huge mess and filtering doesn't seem to work well. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in Imap (gmail) account?
Hello Susanne, Friday, April 29, 2016, 1:16:53 AM, you wrote: >> I think they need to be the same. You should manage them by right clicking on >> the name of the account and selecting Manage IMAP folders. > Oh, man! Maybe I'll stick with Pop3 for now! ;) You don't need to actually 'manage' them. They'll appear when you use Manage IMAP Folders, select the folders to subscribe to and then click OK. -- Best regards, Tony The Bat! 7.1.18.3 (BETA) with IMAP on Windows 7 6.1.Service Pack 1 Build: 7601 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in Imap (gmail) account?
Hello Stuart, Thursday, April 28, 2016, 4:56:35 PM, you wrote: > I think they need to be the same. You should manage them by right clicking on > the name of the account and selecting Manage IMAP folders. Oh, man! Maybe I'll stick with Pop3 for now! ;) Thanks! -- Best regards, Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters in Imap (gmail) account?
Hello Susanne, A reminder of what Susanne typed on: Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 16:49:57 GMT -0700 S> Is it possible to have different folders in TB, and the Gmail account? S> Or do I have to set up the same folders in Gmail, to make this work? I think they need to be the same. You should manage them by right clicking on the name of the account and selecting Manage IMAP folders. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:skcu...@fastmail.fm Using The Bat! Version 7.1.18.3 (BETA) (32-bit) On Windows 10.0 Build #14332 Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filters in Imap (gmail) account?
Hello, I am moving to a new computer and am trying to set up my main account as IMAP this time. Am having a tough time with filters, though. They don't seem to work on incoming messages. Is it possible to have different folders in TB, and the Gmail account? Or do I have to set up the same folders in Gmail, to make this work? Thanks for any and all tips! OS: Windows 10 TB v 7.1.8 64-bit -- Best regards, Susanne mailto:sisk...@gmail.com Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail filters: are conditional actions possible?
Hi All,
I tend to provide unique email addresses to each company with whom I
deal, and so spam allegedly from a particular company is usually sent
to an address not associated with that company. I should be able to
use this to split spam from genuine messages on a 'per company' basis,
move spam to my 'spam' folder and move genuine messages to
company-specific folder.
Here's a pseudocode example:
{the address I use for bloggco is co-blog...@mydomain.com}
if (sender contains bloggco.com)
then
if (recipient is co-blog...@mydomain.com)
then
(move to bloggco folder)
else
(move to spam folder)
endif
endif
I could set up two filters, but I'd rather use just one if possible.
Is this possible?
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Copy filters and folders to new account
Hi, I am trying to convert an account to IMAP, but since that is not possible with my version of TB, I wonder, if I could copy the folder tree and filters to a new IMAP account, and then just leave the old POP3 account as an archive. I've tried selecting more than one filter, but that doesn't seem to work. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com Using The Bat! 4.2.6 OS: Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting filters not working consistently
Monday, June 1, 2015, 2:02:34 AM, you wrote: some of the filters no longer seem to be working I don't know why either, but sometimes filtering on message source fixes this. I thought mail headers were supposed to be immune from the dreaded HTML Adrian Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting filters not working consistently
Hello Achdut18,
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 01:20:34 -0500 GMT (02-Jun-15, 13:20 +0700 GMT),
Achdut18 wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Monday, June 1, 2015, 9:58:55 PM, you wrote:
TF Can you post the filter here?
TF Highlight the filter in the Sorting Office, right-click, choose Copy,
TF and paste it into your reply here.
Sure, in fact, since about a half a dozen of them are not working,
I will post two here that don't work, and one that does:
These are not working:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [9545C834.01D09CBA.53F438C7.1B507DEA]
Name: Amer\20Airlines
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`0`0`americanairli...@email.aa.com\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5chatzibur@gmail.com\5CAmer\20Airlines
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [82D5DAC2.01D083D2.200383C6.463C2EE2]
Name: Dragon\20Naturally\20Speaking
Filter:
{\0D\0A\20`0`0`dragonpr...@nuance.com\0D\0A1`0`0`nua...@reply.digitalriver.com\0D\0A1`7`Reply-to`0`nua...@reply.digitalriver.com\0D\0A1`0`0`nuance\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder
\5C\5chatzibur@gmail.com\5CDragon\20Nat\20Spkng
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
This filter, however, works:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [BB696BEE.01D019BE.3180F583.423CDB93]
Name: Investment\20News
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`0`0`InvestmentNews\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5chatzibur@gmail.com\5CInvestment\20News
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
I see no difference between these filters, other than the
specific instructions. I have, probably, 50-60 filters spread among
other accounts that all seem to be working just fine. Thanks for any help you
can provide!
Thanks. Please use reply, not reply to all, there is no need to
send it to my Inbox too.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/
Message reply created with The Bat! 6.7.20
under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1
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Re: sorting filters not working consistently
Hi Thomas,
Monday, June 1, 2015, 9:58:55 PM, you wrote:
TF Can you post the filter here?
TF Highlight the filter in the Sorting Office, right-click, choose Copy,
TF and paste it into your reply here.
Sure, in fact, since about a half a dozen of them are not working, I will post
two here that don't work, and one that does:
These are not working:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [9545C834.01D09CBA.53F438C7.1B507DEA]
Name: Amer\20Airlines
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`0`0`americanairli...@email.aa.com\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5chatzibur@gmail.com\5CAmer\20Airlines
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [82D5DAC2.01D083D2.200383C6.463C2EE2]
Name: Dragon\20Naturally\20Speaking
Filter:
{\0D\0A\20`0`0`dragonpr...@nuance.com\0D\0A1`0`0`nua...@reply.digitalriver.com\0D\0A1`7`Reply-to`0`nua...@reply.digitalriver.com\0D\0A1`0`0`nuance\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5chatzibur@gmail.com\5CDragon\20Nat\20Spkng
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
This filter, however, works:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [BB696BEE.01D019BE.3180F583.423CDB93]
Name: Investment\20News
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`0`0`InvestmentNews\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5chatzibur@gmail.com\5CInvestment\20News
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
I see no difference between these filters, other than the specific
instructions. I have, probably, 50-60 filters spread among other accounts that
all seem to be working just fine. Thanks for any help you can provide!
--
Avi
Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 6.0.0.28 on Win7 Pro
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Re: sorting filters not working consistently
Hi Paul, Sunday, May 31, 2015, 8:03:41 PM, you wrote: PB Don't know but try PB Header - includes - any of - Hampton Hotels Thanks. I already tried that. It didn't work. Sorry, I should have mentioned that in my post. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 6.0.0.28 on Win7 Pro Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting filters not working consistently
Hi, M On Monday 1 June 2015 at 1:02:34 AM, I wrote: some of the filters no longer seem to be working, even though the text for which the filters searches has not changed. To which you replied on Sunday, May 31, 2015, 9:00:15 PM: M Are the filters still marked as Active? Yes M Does the destination folder still exist? Yes M Does some other filter (on that account or a common filter) catch the M message either before or after the one you intend? (Test by M right-clicking message in list, selecting test filters and then M whatever options are appropriate.) No. The e-mails remain in the inbox. Clicking on test filters and running the filter on a highlighted message yields a result box that shows that the message was refiltered. But the filter requires that the message be moved to a destination folder and even though the destination is still present, the message is not moved. I also tried this: I deleted one of the non-working filters completely and recreated it. The message still did not move from the inbox. -- Avi Avram Sacks, using The Bat! ver. 6.0.0.28 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting filters not working consistently
Hello Achdut18, On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 17:56:26 -0500 GMT (02-Jun-15, 05:56 +0700 GMT), Achdut18 wrote: Hi, M On Monday 1 June 2015 at 1:02:34 AM, I wrote: some of the filters no longer seem to be working, even though the text for which the filters searches has not changed. To which you replied on Sunday, May 31, 2015, 9:00:15 PM: M Are the filters still marked as Active? Yes M Does the destination folder still exist? Yes M Does some other filter (on that account or a common filter) catch the M message either before or after the one you intend? (Test by M right-clicking message in list, selecting test filters and then M whatever options are appropriate.) No. The e-mails remain in the inbox. Clicking on test filters and running the filter on a highlighted message yields a result box that shows that the message was refiltered. But the filter requires that the message be moved to a destination folder and even though the destination is still present, the message is not moved. I also tried this: I deleted one of the non-working filters completely and recreated it. The message still did not move from the inbox. Can you post the filter here? Highlight the filter in the Sorting Office, right-click, choose Copy, and paste it into your reply here. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 6.7.20 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting filters not working consistently
Hi On Monday 1 June 2015 at 1:02:34 AM, in mid:204384977.20150531190...@gmail.com, Achdut18 wrote: Hi, I rely on filters extensively in a number of different mail accounts. Most of the time they work as expected. However, in one account, which is dedicated to third-party vendors with whom I do business, some of the filters no longer seem to be working, even though the text for which the filters searches has not changed. Are the filters still marked as Active? Does the destination folder still exist? Does some other filter (on that account or a common filter) catch the message either before or after the one you intend? (Test by right-clicking message in list, selecting test filters and then whatever options are appropriate.) -- Best regards MFPA mailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. -- Groucho Marx Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
sorting filters not working consistently
Hi, I rely on filters extensively in a number of different mail accounts. Most of the time they work as expected. However, in one account, which is dedicated to third-party vendors with whom I do business, some of the filters no longer seem to be working, even though the text for which the filters searches has not changed. Here is an example: I have done business with Hampton Hotels and now get their promotional e-mail. The from field for each message from this vendor is: Hampton Hotels hamp...@h1.hilton.com. I have a filter that searches sender for hamp...@h1.hilton.com It used to work, but not any more. I tried to add a filter that searched the header field from for Hampton Hotels hamp...@h1.hilton.comBut that didn't help. I compared the RFC-822 headers from a message for which the filter worked with the RFC-822 headers from a message that did not get filtered and saw no difference between the two for the fields in question. I have a similar problem with about seven other filters. Any idea as to why I am having this problem? Other filters for this same account seem to be working fine. -- Avi Avram Sacks Using The Bat ver 6.0.0.28 on Win 7 Pro Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting filters not working consistently
Hello TBUDL@thebat., Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:02:34 AM, you wrote: A Hi, A I rely on filters extensively in a number of different mail A accounts. Most of the time they work as expected. However, in A one account, which is dedicated to third-party vendors with whom I A do business, some of the filters no longer seem to be working, even A though the text for which the filters searches has not changed. A Here is an example: A I have done business with Hampton Hotels and now get their A promotional e-mail. The from field for each message from this A vendor is: Hampton Hotels hamp...@h1.hilton.com. A I have a filter that searches sender for hamp...@h1.hilton.com A It used to work, but not any more. A I tried to add a filter that searched the header field from for A Hampton Hotels hamp...@h1.hilton.comBut that didn't help. A I compared the RFC-822 headers from a message for which the filter A worked with the RFC-822 headers from a message that did not get A filtered and saw no difference between the two for the fields in A question. I have a similar problem with about seven other A filters. Any idea as to why I am having this problem? Other A filters for this same account seem to be working fine. Don't know but try Header - includes - any of - Hampton Hotels -- Paul - Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 ...Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular? Current version is 6.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible to copy filters to another account?
Hi On Saturday 23 August 2014 at 7:10:34 PM, in mid:785320.20140823201...@eternallybored.org, Jernej Simoncic wrote: Actually, you can copy all filters associated with an account at once - just right-click the parent tree node, and select Copy there. That may be version-specific, as it is slightly different here. If I right-click, for example, Incoming Mail or Read Messages, the only option not greyed-out is New Filter. However, if I right-click one of my filters, the available options include Copy Tree. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:2014-667rhzu3dc-lists-gro...@riseup.net Coffee doesn't need a menu, it needs a cup. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible to copy filters to another account?
On Sunday, August 24, 2014, 14:44:14, MFPA wrote: That may be version-specific, as it is slightly different here. Hm, possible - I'm running v6 here. Anyway, the other trick (copying filters to Notepad) should still work. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Do whatever your enemies don't want you to do. -- Sinner's Law of Retaliation Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible to copy filters to another account?
On Friday, August 22, 2014, 16:01:52, Adrian Godfrey wrote: I learned that the hard way by not putting all my filters in common filters in the first place. I'm gradually moving them all there out of the individual accounts. Actually, you can copy all filters associated with an account at once - just right-click the parent tree node, and select Copy there. Additionally, you can copy individual filters, paste them in Notepad (one after another), then copy the entire text from Notepad, and paste them as filters in another account. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Them what gets -- has. -- Wakefield's Refutation of the Iron Law of Distribution Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible to copy filters to another account?
Actually, you can copy all filters associated with an account at once - just right-click the parent tree node, and select Copy there. Hi, Jernej. Could you elaborate on just what you said please. (I don't understand exactly what you are describing - sorry.) Thanks. -- Fred Using TheBat V.4.2.44.2 for POP3 mail with Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible to copy filters to another account?
Wednesday, August 20, 2014, 9:06:48 PM, you wrote: Is there a way to copy them to another, rather than having to recreate each in turn? You can copy and paste by right clicking, but only one at a time. I learned that the hard way by not putting all my filters in common filters in the first place. I'm gradually moving them all there out of the individual accounts. Adrian .. Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Possible to copy filters to another account?
I have a lot of filters for incoming mail (each pretty much just filters into a folder). I'm recreating the folder structure in another account, and would like to have the appropriate filters in that account too. Is there a way to copy them to another, rather than having to recreate each in turn? Thanks! - - Andrew mailto:aweb...@wwwebbers.com Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Possible to copy filters to another account?
Hello Andrew, On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:06:48 -0400GMT Andrew Webber wrote: AW I have a lot of filters for incoming mail (each pretty much just AW filters into a folder). I'm recreating the folder structure in another AW account, and would like to have the appropriate filters in that AW account too. Is there a way to copy them to another, rather than AW having to recreate each in turn? Copy the filters from the account to common filters and choose the accounts you want them to apply to in the third tab. -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! Version 6.5.2.4 (64-bit) on Windows 7 6.1 7601 Service Pack 1 If ignorance is bliss, Moderators must be _very_ happy! Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with (all) Filters not working
I use a few imap email accounts. They are 1and1 fwiw .. I use one of two computers, individually, in a week. Of all the accounts, One, and one only, refuses to process all the email. It does randomly filter several emails though. I mean, one day I might get 200 List emails of which 30 are filtered. Another time I might get 90 filtered. I can see no pattern; no exclusion filter, and this happens on both omputers. If I look in the 1and1 web-interface, I do not see anythng I could have done to block filters as all the incoming traffic at 1and1 is passed to The Bat1 .. To reiterate, the other 1and1 imap accounts, ON TB!, successfully filter every single Inbox entry to sugsequent 'Common' Folders. what do I look at to find the problem? thanks -- RD Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with (all) Filters not working
Hello Lists, Friday, August 15, 2014, 10:56:41 AM, you wrote: I use a few imap email accounts. They are 1and1 fwiw .. I use one of two computers, individually, in a week. Of all the accounts, One, and one only, refuses to process all the email. It does randomly filter several emails though. I mean, one day I might get 200 List emails of which 30 are filtered. Another time I might get 90 filtered. I have no answer for you, but I have been complaining about this since they did the major change to how IMAP works. Most of mine do in fact filter, but it seems the odd one will not on a regular basis. I have submitted a bug report, but there has been no action on it. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:scu...@mts.net Using The Bat! Version 6.5.2.3 (32-bit) On Windows 7 6.1 Build #7601 Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
moving filters between common filters and account filters
dear friends, please assist and advice how to move filters between account filters and common filters. we got 3 accounts and each account got filters not exceeding 5 but we do have common folders of about 200 and there are about 150 common filters set up. many thanks -- vernon Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving filters between common filters and account filters
Hallo monsell, On Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:52:40 +0530GMT (1-10-2013, 10:22 , where I live), you wrote: M please assist and advice how to move filters between account filters M and common filters. Select the filter you want to move Press Ctrl C Select the new location for the filter Press Ctrl V Now you've copied the filter to it's new location, because you can't move filters between accounts. Therefore you return to the original filter and delete it. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator Motto: Excess is never enough. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.4.8 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: moving filters between common filters and account filters
M please assist and advice how to move filters between account filters M and common filters. Select the filter you want to move Press Ctrl C Select the new location for the filter Press Ctrl V Now you've copied the filter to it's new location, because you can't move filters between accounts. Therefore you return to the original filter and delete it. ++ appreciated mate thank you -- vernon Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters don't work in one Email Account
Hi On Tuesday 25 June 2013 at 2:11:56 AM, in mid:1526671477.20130624211...@denstarfarm.us, Robert D. wrote: It works splendidly well except for one account. And that one didn't always have the problem. And ... a couple others did and they magically cleared up. Needles to say, this has been going on many, many months and is downright annoying. Maintenance does not work. Go Figure. IIRC, the filters for each account live in one of the account.xxx files in that account's folder. In TB! 4.0.38 it seems to be account.srb, but that may be different in your TB! version. Maybe the file got corrupted? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com What's another word for synonym? Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filters don't work in one Email Account
I have one email account where, at start-up, no filters work.When I run re-filter on that account, every email, usually dozens, will correctly filter to the common folders I use for all other email accounts. Whereas , all the other email accounts I have will filter when I open The Bat! ... I believe I have compared the rules and settings for the troublesome account against the good accounts. I believe they appear to be the same. I must be wrong. So anybody have any ideas I can pursue to clear this up? Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters don't work in one Email Account
Hi On Monday 24 June 2013 at 2:26:13 PM, in mid:1148489053.20130624092...@denstarfarm.us, Robert D. wrote: I have one email account where, at start-up, no filters work.When I run re-filter on that account, every email, usually dozens, will correctly filter to the common folders I use for all other email accounts. Whereas , all the other email accounts I have will filter when I open The Bat! ... I believe I have compared the rules and settings for the troublesome account against the good accounts. I believe they appear to be the same. I must be wrong. So anybody have any ideas I can pursue to clear this up? If you have separate filters for each account, I can't suggest anything. If, like me, you avoid duplication by using Common Filters, make sure the account in question is among those selected on the share with tab for each filter you want to automatically work with that account. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Don't ask me, I'm making this up as I go! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters don't work in one Email Account
Hello MFPA, Monday, June 24, 2013, 2:21:06 PM, you wrote: If you have separate filters for each account, I can't suggest anything. Yup ! A few email accounts have collected. Whatever Lists of interest to which I was subscribed, stayed with the respective Email Account. I move Inbox emails to whatever Hobby-List Common folder that applies. It works splendidly well except for one account. And that one didn't always have the problem. And ... a couple others did and they magically cleared up. Needles to say, this has been going on many, many months and is downright annoying. Maintenance does not work. Go Figure. -- Best regards, Robert Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Rad filters don't work
Batfolk, I have recently upgraded from version 4 of TB to version 5. I have a number of read filters which I use to file messages when I have read them, but these are not triggered when I mark the messages as read manually. If I set TB to mark messages as read when they are opened in a new window, the filter works as expected. Is this a known problem? Is there a solution? Robin Anson -- Robin Using The Bat! v5.3.8 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.12 Filters
Hi, Is it me or have filters stopped working in V5? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 5.0.12 and AntispamSniper 3.2.6.4 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 Filters
Hallo BJH, On Wed, 11 May 2011 11:10:45 +0100GMT (11-5-2011, 12:10 , where I live), you wrote: B Is it me or have filters stopped working in V5? You're not the only one, though I haven't got that problem myself. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator: Satan in some cases. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.12.1 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpc5ibi4moAl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 Filters
On 11/05/2011 11:37:40, Roelof Otten wrote: You're not the only one, though I haven't got that problem myself. Thanks Roelof that makes me feel a whole lot better! ;) -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 5.0.12 and AntispamSniper 3.2.6.4 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 Filters
Hallo BJH, On Wed, 11 May 2011 15:13:45 +0100GMT (11-5-2011, 16:13 , where I live), you wrote: You're not the only one, though I haven't got that problem myself. B Thanks Roelof that makes me feel a whole lot better! ;) What I meant to say, was that there are problems with v5 and filters mentioned on the beta list, though they're not experienced by everybody. Did all of your filters stop working, did only some filters stop or do some filters stop some of the time? -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator (n): see also god, dictator, egoist, oppressor, http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.12.2 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp5iz5VTwlKn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting filters?
(reply to message of Thursday, February 7, 2008) Hi Trevor and all of you, H is it possible to export and import filters? In addition to the advice about copying and pasting between accounts, you can also copy and then paste into Notepad or other text editor for saving. I just have a new computer. Is it also possible to import filters I used on my previous computer in the Bat? (I used the same version of the Bat.) -- Laura. www.ratje-toe.nl Version of The Bat: 4.2.36.4 The Bat!-user since: 16 January 2000. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting filters?
Hallo Laura, On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:15:12 +0200GMT (8-8-2010, 16:15 , where I live), you wrote: L I just have a new computer. L Is it also possible to import filters I used on my previous computer L in the Bat? L (I used the same version of the Bat.) That's possible. When the setup of your new config is the same as your old config (account names and folder names) and you don't have any other filters yet, you can even copy all of your old filters. Close TB and copy the account.srb files fro your old system to your new system, there's an account.srb file in the mail directory and in every account directory. When you don't want to copy all filters, it's best to use Trevor's way. -- Groetjes, Roelof The ultimate Virus, a self-installing copy of Bob. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.60 ALPHA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpmQhiosbpaQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting filters?
(reply to message of Sunday, August 8, 2010) Hoi Roelof, Close TB and copy the account.srb files fro your old system to your new system, there's an account.srb file in the mail directory and in every account directory. Terrific, that's fantastic, I'm very happy, got all my filters back. Thank you so much! -- Laura. www.ratje-toe.nl Version of The Bat: 4.2.36.4 The Bat!-user since: 16 January 2000. Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exporting filters?
Hallo Laura, On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 18:21:04 +0200GMT (8-8-2010, 18:21 , where I live), you wrote: L Thank you so much! Graag gedaan. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 019 User error - Not our fault. Is Not! Is Not! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.60 ALPHA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpPtPUByR2Fr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Migrate folder tree w/filters from one account to another?
Hello Melissa, On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:24:06 -0700 GMT (04/Aug/09, 6:24 AM +0700 GMT), Melissa Reese wrote: MR I've been away for a while, and I'm just getting back to setting up my MR old Bat. Welcome back! MR I've been using one account for the past week, but I'm having MR problems with it, and decided to use a different account. The MR problem is that I built a large folder tree with both incoming and MR outgoing filters in the account I'd like to abandon, and I'd like, MR if possible, to simply move all these folders and their MR corresponding filters to the new account. Would this be possible? MR Or must I build the entire thing from scratch in the new account? Hm. Why don't you change the details in the existing account? New email address, new POP/SMTP server, etc. You wouldn't need to move any of your folders. MR I realize that at the very least I'll have to go into the filters MR and change the email addresses, Only if your own email address is mentioned in your filters. I have one incoming filter called self which contains my own email address: It marks messages as read. Changing one filter wouldn't be much trouble. MR but if I can at least move all the folders and the basic filters MR in one graceful movement that would be wonderful. Yes, you can do that too. I would do it on the file level (Windows Explorer or better File Managers come to mind) while TB! is closed. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.9.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Migrate folder tree w/filters from one account to another?
Hi, I've been away for a while, and I'm just getting back to setting up my old Bat. I've been using one account for the past week, but I'm having problems with it, and decided to use a different account. The problem is that I built a large folder tree with both incoming and outgoing filters in the account I'd like to abandon, and I'd like, if possible, to simply move all these folders and their corresponding filters to the new account. Would this be possible? Or must I build the entire thing from scratch in the new account? I realize that at the very least I'll have to go into the filters and change the email addresses, but if I can at least move all the folders and the basic filters in one graceful movement that would be wonderful. Thanks! -- Melissa TB! v2.12.04 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Setting SPAM filter to run after other filters
Hi I'm using the built in BayesIT spam filter which works pretty well, but is there some way of setting it to filter incoming mail AFTER my other filters have run? In spite of me attempting to train it to recognise TBDUL mail as not junk - much of my list mail is still ending up in the junk folder. If I run a re-filter on the folder my custom filters happily put the mail back where it should be, but it's a major pain to have to do it this way. I'm probably missing something really obvious but whatever it is I'm just not getting it. -- Best regards, Carrenmailto:kiwionab...@xnet.co.nz Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting SPAM filter to run after other filters
Hello Carren, Sunday, July 26, 2009, 9:18:07 AM, among other things, you wrote: CS I'm using the built in BayesIT spam filter which works pretty well, but CS is there some way of setting it to filter incoming mail AFTER my other CS filters have run? I don't think so. CS In spite of me attempting to train it to recognise CS TBDUL mail as not junk - much of my list mail is still ending up in CS the junk folder. I think most of us gave up using BayesIt quite a long time ago and switched to AntispamSniper for the Bat!.You can get the download at www.antispamsniper.com , perhaps you should give it a try. However it still won't run after other filters, but once trained gives very few false positives, or negatives! -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v4.2.9.1 POP3with AntiSpamSniper 3.2.0.6, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting SPAM filter to run after other filters
Hallo Carren, On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:18:07 +1200GMT (26-7-2009, 9:18 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CS I'm using the built in BayesIT spam filter which works pretty CS well, but is there some way of setting it to filter incoming mail AFTER my other filters have run? No there isn't. plug-in filters are always executed before the sorting office. The only way to get rid of your false positives is by training your spam filter. -- Groetjes, Roelof I think, therefore, I cannot be a moderator. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.9.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpM3sfVELvbA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using folder properties in filters and templates
Hello, friends. I have got lots of folders and reorganize them often. Whenever a new penpal (P) occurs, I usually create a folder (PF) for storing the related communication. Since I want the incoming/outgoing messages be stored in PF automatically, I usually create the corresponding pair of filters which move incoming/outgoing messages to PF according to Sender/Recipient. What I am dreaming of is automating the filtering and making it as easy as entering P's address (or two) somewhere in PF's properties (e.g., in PF's memo). If folder memos were searchable via macros, I could create a single pair of filters with condition like Some folder's memo contains 'addr%Sender/%Recipient/addr' and action like Move to the folder %FirstFolderWhoseMemoContains='addr%Sender/%Recipient/addr' or something similar. I do understand that the above is realizable via AB with some clever macros/regexps but I cannot use fixed folder paths in AB, since my folders are permanently reorganized. In addition, I would like to use PF's properties (rather than AB) for specifying additional info on P (such as greetings, etc.) for using in message templates, but I am not aware of macros which can help me. Currently I enter P's info in PF's templates, but this leads to unpleasant duplicating the info needed for New Message and Reply templates. Again, I could store the corresponding info in PF's memo, but it is useless without a %FolderMemo macro. Any ideas? -- Alexander Gutman Using The Bat! v4.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
filters disappeared
Hello Tbudl, I have a problem with my filters as first they disappeared, then the returned in a way (but after a Bat restart they had disappeared again) and now I see not filters... There is an option to get them back on the toolbar and so they did as orphaned filters. Now there are no filters there at all... -- Best regards, tracer mailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How can I copy ALL my filters between in/outbox
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 10:29:01 PM, you wrote: Hello tracer, On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:32:15 +0700 GMT (07/01/2009, 11:32 +0700 GMT), tracer wrote: t Assuming I create them all by hand for mail coming in, what's the t easiest way to copy the lot to outgoing mail and then fix them by t hand... The easiest (but not fastest) way is to support this wish: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 Thomas, this is supposing I guess that I can run 4.1.17 or whatever but I cannot as last time I tried I still crashed and I saw I am not the only one where either a clean or upgrade of system goes wrong. No idea what goes wrong but I end up with NO executable in the Bat directory!!! I checked it obviously manually and you can also see it as the bat Icon on desktop goes to the one used in case it refers to a missing file. And it really is missing... So I am running 4.0.38 I had a msg when booting up the bat just now that there was a new upgrade but no idea what got fixed. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I copy ALL my filters between in/outbox
Hello tracer, On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 21:13:12 +0700 GMT (08/01/2009, 21:13 +0700 GMT), tracer wrote: t Assuming I create them all by hand for mail coming in, what's the t easiest way to copy the lot to outgoing mail and then fix them by t hand... The easiest (but not fastest) way is to support this wish: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 t Thomas, this is supposing I guess that I can run 4.1.17 or whatever No, this is supposing you are running 5.x or 6.x. It is a wish, this feature is not implemented yet. In fact, it is assigned to a Ritlabs staff who left the company quite some time ago, so nobody is working on it. t but I cannot as last time I tried I still crashed and I saw I am t not the only one where either a clean or upgrade of system goes wrong. t No idea what goes wrong but I end up with NO executable in the Bat t directory!!! This is bad news. Since nobody else reported it, let's find out what is different on your system. What kind of Windows are you running? Are you logged in as user or admin? Do you have admin rights? t I checked it obviously manually and you can also see it as the t bat Icon on desktop goes to the one used in case it refers to a missing t file. And it really is missing... Does the icon go the the new version? Hm. Over here (Win XP SP2), the file name is always the same, regardless of the version number. t So I am running 4.0.38 I had a msg when booting up the bat just now t that there was a new upgrade but no idea what got fixed. The changelog is somewhere on the Ritlabs website. Have a look. -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: Most laptop computers are powerful enough to override the communication systems of any invading alien civilization. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How can I copy ALL my filters between in/outbox
Hello Thomas, Thursday, January 8, 2009, 11:02:26 PM, you wrote: Roelof, If you want this moved to Yahoo, no problem but maybe worth first finding out who else has a problem with latest bat. What worries me is not the destruction of the bat but the chance that the databases get destroyed with an upgrade... I have been stuck with the problem since Christmas (ie the update to 4.1 caused me the problem...) 4.1 upgrade t but I cannot as last time I tried I still crashed and I saw I am t not the only one where either a clean or upgrade of system goes wrong. t No idea what goes wrong but I end up with NO executable in the Bat t directory!!! Note my daughters computer had a bug so I fixed it getting rid of a few things at same time: I reinstalled windows in a way I would normally not do but I thought to clean things up and get my other 2 kids of her computer AND no Internet access. Ok, I have with my SMC stick but they haven't got that... Whatever with that stick and a clean the Bat I have the same problem and the Bat was never on that PC before... This is bad news. Since nobody else reported it, let's find out what is different on your system. What kind of Windows are you running? XP-PRO, sr3 Its a real windows by the way. Are you logged in as user or admin? Do you have admin rights? USER, yes Does the icon go the the new version? Hm. Over here (Win XP SP2), the file name is always the same, regardless of the version number. Filename is thebat.exe (now) and its gone if I try to install 4.1.xx. The shortcut sits on the desktop but I end-up with the icon one used for file missing. Old file gets deleted but new one doesn't get installed. t So I am running 4.0.38 I had a msg when booting up the bat just now t that there was a new upgrade but no idea what got fixed. The changelog is somewhere on the Ritlabs website. Have a look. The point being that I cannot imagine it got fixed if I am the only one complaining but I recently saw I may not be really the only one now. Maybe worth it to move this discussion to yahoo Possibly Richard L de S Clauson has a similar problem. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I copy ALL my filters between in/outbox
Hallo koenraad, On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 00:30:14 +0700GMT (8-1-2009, 18:30 +0100, where I live), you wrote: KR Filename is thebat.exe (now) and its gone if I try to install 4.1.xx. KR The shortcut sits on the desktop but I end-up with the icon one used for file KR missing. I've heard one case of someone using some obscure virus scanner that considered TB 4.1.? as a trojan and therefore deleted it. He was using Blink as anti virus, maybe that's what happening to you too. -- Groetjes, Roelof Oops. - Most feared word in Nuclear Physics and Brain Surgery... http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.9 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpqmTmTlLgye.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How can I copy ALL my filters between in/outbox
Hello Roelof, Friday, January 9, 2009, 4:36:27 AM, you wrote: Hallo koenraad, On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 00:30:14 +0700GMT (8-1-2009, 18:30 +0100, where I live), you wrote: KR Filename is thebat.exe (now) and its gone if I try to install 4.1.xx. KR The shortcut sits on the desktop but I end-up with the icon one used for file KR missing. I've heard one case of someone using some obscure virus scanner that considered TB 4.1.? as a trojan and therefore deleted it. He was using Blink as anti virus, maybe that's what happening to you too. I am ashamed to say I never heard of Blink but as you know that means little. I did a search with google and it seems to be a system resident search engine. No idea if that's what you mean! AV getting into my system via various disks are F-secure, Avira, Comodo, and a few others I know and know I can ask questions. NO NORTON, NO McAfee... Easeus makes nice data recovery software/copy software but while you have to know what to watch for, no problems with it. Another website is the www.runtime.org one but lets say unknown stuff doesn't get into my system. AND, I do not mix them!! That I did only once many years ago. I noticed that I seem to have a slightly more stable system after several spy-ware files got knocked out. With a 'cleaned' hard disk I can even get updates for Avira.. So once I have F-secure back and running I will scan my system again to see what it finds as other culprits . And if the Bat works. DO you or anyone else know a WORKING program keeping track of what gets installed and what notIe FILE by FILE??? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I copy ALL my filters betwwn in/outbox
Hallo koenraad, On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:32:15 +0700GMT (7-1-2009, 5:32 +0100, where I live), you wrote: KR Probably a silly question but I don't see it in the help files. KR I am busy setting up filters for Incoming mail and I want to use KR more or less similar ones for outgoing mail but main problem is I KR have many mailboxes.. KR Assuming I create them all by hand for mail coming in, what's the KR easiest way to copy the lot to outgoing mail and then fix them by KR hand... You can copy one filter by having focus on the left pane of the sorting offeice and pressing Ctrl-C, next you go to the outgoing filters and press Ctrl-V, now you can edit the filter. That's what I do when I create an incoming filter and a similar outgoing filter. When you want to copy all filters from one account to another account that doesn't have any filters yet, then you can copy the account.srn file from the account directory for account A to that of account B. Do this preferrably while TB is shut down. However as this overwrites all existing filters in account B, this isn't very suitable when it has got filters. In that case you should use the first method or a variety. When all of your accounts use the same or similar filters, you might consider using common filters. -- Groetjes, Roelof I prefer to call it: The Prime Suggestion - Kirk http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.1.9 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpCSXAjWiyq0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I copy ALL my filters betwwn in/outbox
Hello tracer, On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:32:15 +0700 GMT (07/01/2009, 11:32 +0700 GMT), tracer wrote: t Assuming I create them all by hand for mail coming in, what's the t easiest way to copy the lot to outgoing mail and then fix them by t hand... The easiest (but not fastest) way is to support this wish: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3319 -- Cheers, Thomas. ...und wir gingen mit unserer Lehrerin im Park spazieren. Gegenueber dem Park war ein Haus, wo die Muetter ihre Kinder gebaeren. Eine Gebaermutter schaute aus dem Fenster und winkte uns freudig zu. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How can I copy ALL my filters betwwn in/outbox
Hello Roelof, Probably a silly question but I don't see it in the help files. I am busy setting up filters for Incoming mail and I want to use more or less similar ones for outgoing mail but main problem is I have many mailboxes.. Assuming I create them all by hand for mail coming in, what's the easiest way to copy the lot to outgoing mail and then fix them by hand... -- Best regards, tracer mailto:0tra...@gmail.com Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying filters to another account
Hi Gary, on Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:23:15 -0500GMT(11.11.2008, 18:23 +0100GMT here), you wrote: GL As I recall. I was once able to copy filters from one account to another GL using the Copy_tree function. However, it no longer seems to be available. GL Is there some back door way to do this? No back door. Simply highlight the filter, then copy it with the right-click-menu or ctrl+C and paste it to its destination account. -- Cheers Peter What did God say after creating man? I can do so much better. What did he say after he created woman? Guess I was wrong! (Helen J Bolton) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying filters to another account
On Tuesday, November 11, 2008, Peter Meyns scripted: GL As I recall. I was once able to copy filters from one account to another GL using the Copy_tree function. However, it no longer seems to be available. GL Is there some back door way to do this? No back door. Simply highlight the filter, then copy it with the right-click-menu or ctrl+C and paste it to its destination account. You don't seem to understand. I want to copy the entire tree of incoming filters from one account to another. That choice is grayed out at the incoming filter level. -- Gary -- Quintessential is now playing: The JazzMasters - Starchild -- Random Tagline -- I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in school, so I could converse with those people. - Dan Quayle Mail Handler : ^o^ Flying with The_Bat! 3.99.29 ^o^ The OS: Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying filters to another account
Hallo Gary, On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:44:36 -0500GMT (11-11-2008, 19:44 +0100, where I live), you wrote: GL You don't seem to understand. I want to copy the entire tree of incoming GL filters from one account to another. That choice is grayed out at the GL incoming filter level. AFAIK That has never been possible. In case the receiving account hasn't got any filters yet, you could try to copy all filters of the source account via this procedure. Close TB Copy the file account.srb from the accountdir of the source account to that of the target account (the file is called account.erb when you're using OTFE) Start TB Check the sorting office -- Groetjes, Roelof As I feared, you have no sense of humor. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.34.19 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp5u8m9yZ5Zk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Copying filters to another account
Hello Gary, I want to copy the entire tree of incoming filters from one account to another. That choice is grayed out at the incoming filter level. In the Sorting Office context a tree is a filter and any sub-filters under it. For example: Filter A Sub-filter 1 Sub-filter 2 If you select Filter A and do a 'Copy tree', the filter plus the two sub-filters will be copied. And if then you do a paste (e.g. in another account) the whole 'tree', and with the same structure, will be pasted. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.19 (ALPHA) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Copying filters to another account
Greetings, 12:19, Tuesday, November 11, 2008 As I recall. I was once able to copy filters from one account to another using the Copy_tree function. However, it no longer seems to be available. Is there some back door way to do this? -- Gary -- Quintessential is now playing: Sade - Your Love Is King -- Random Tagline -- Never test the depth of the water with both feet. Mail Handler : ^o^ Flying with The_Bat! 3.99.29 ^o^ The OS: Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters: Run External Process
Hello MFPA, On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:30:10 +0100 your time, you said: [...snip...] You could test by maybe adding a check to see if the file exists and display a message if it doesn't. Yes, I have the folder open when I collect my mail, and I see the wavs appear in the folder. I take it the WAV file exists when you look in the folder afterwards? Does the script work if you plant a WAV of the correct name in the folder beforehand? Yup! Run manually works a treat. Finds any unconverted wavs and processes them. I called it from another script and it works as well. And I also ran in via Windows Run and no problem. I also compiled the script and programs it uses into a single exe and used that instead, thinking that TB! might have something against running scripts, but no go. Have you tried putting the three actions into three separate filters? (make sure first two are set to continue processing with other filters) Yes, I have also tried that. And I have tried a Hotkey only filter for the conversion part, but the wavs aren't processed...well know why they aren't but don't know how to solve the problem. When I run my converter, it creates a couple of temp files and folders in the system temp folder. When run manually I can see these being created and removed as the program executes and ends. I also tried this with TB! executing the .exe and TB! is executing it because the temp files and folders are appearing and disappearing. However, the exe isn't running in the voicemail folder, and I know that for certain because the exe unpacks 4 files into the folder it is run in, runs the script then clears up afterwards. You can see these files appear when run manually, but they do not appear in my voicemail folder. So, TB! is executing the exe, but it is being run somewhere else, not in the same folder as it is executed from. And I have no idea why that is, or how to resolve it. I do know it isn't running in the TB! install folder or in my message base folder because I checked. Anyway, I'm stumped. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #565. Seal Quod I Mrs Wry ¶ TB! 4.0.34 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters: Run External Process
Hello Simon, On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:23:30 +0100 GMT (11/09/2008, 16:23 +0700 GMT), Simon wrote: PMFJI. I really don't know anything about running external programs, but this paragraph just made me think of something: S So, TB! is executing the exe, but it is being run somewhere else, S not in the same folder as it is executed from. And I have no idea S why that is, or how to resolve it. Just a wild thought: Maybe because of TB, the output ends up in another folder, for example a temp folder? This shouldn't happen, but searching the whole computer for the output file is worth a try. Maybe I'm completely off, though. -- Cheers, Thomas. Deine Stereoanlage hat aber viele Knoepfe! - Na, ja, mit Reissverschluss saehe sie ja auch ziemlich bloed aus. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters: Run External Process
On 11 September 2008, 10:23, Simon wrote: When I run my converter, it creates a couple of temp files and folders in the system temp folder. When run manually I can see these being created and removed as the program executes and ends. I also tried this with TB! executing the .exe and TB! is executing it because the temp files and folders are appearing and disappearing. However, the exe isn't running in the voicemail folder, and I know that for certain because the exe unpacks 4 files into the folder it is run in, runs the script then clears up afterwards. You can see these files appear when run manually, but they do not appear in my voicemail folder. ~~~ I suspect that you might need to map \\[obfuscated] to a network drive and change to that early in your script. Assuming that you don't use Z: for anything (if you do, use an alternative drive letter) you can do this with: net use Z: \\[obfuscated] Z: cd \Voicemail Then clean up at the end with: C: net use Z: /delete Alternatively, you can permanently map the drive so that you don't need to create and destroy the mapping each time you run the filter. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Insanity is hereditary ... you get it from your kids! Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters: Run External Process
Hello Geoff, and Thomas, Thanks both for your replies. Spent far too long poncing about with this task now so I'll just set it as a scheduled Windows task to check the folder daily and convert files, or run it manually with a WinHotKey if I need to do it inbetween. I'll go back to it some time when I do actually have the time to faff about with it. Your input appreciated though. Not beaten, just putting it on the back burner for the moment ;-) Cheers.. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #792. Lisa Qed Rum So Wry ¶ TB! 4.0.34 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters: Run External Process
Hello Simon, Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:23:30 AM, Simon wrote: So, TB! is executing the exe, but it is being run somewhere else, not in the same folder as it is executed from. And I have no idea why that is, or how to resolve it. To check where it actually is run, you'd just have to add something like: cd pause to the top of your script. To get it to work in the right directory, you'd just have it move there. Since your My Voicemail-dir does not change (I guess) you'd just need to add something like this to the very top of the script: cd D:\My Voicemail\Incoming Which would make it look like this: /* BEGIN @echo off cd D:\My Voicemail\Incoming echo Name: %~n1 FOR %%a in (*.wav) DO sox.exe %%a %%~na.aiff [..] */ I hope that helps. Regards, -- Using The Bat! v4.0.28.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters: Run External Process
Hi On Wednesday 10 September 2008 at 7:45:39 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Privateofcourse wrote: I am trying to use the 'Run External Process' action under a TB! filter, but the command does not do as I would expect. Never tried it. I have a TB! folder that all my voicemail messages gets moved to using a filter. The filter also extracts the attached GSM voicemail wavs to a voicemail folder on the hard drive. Then I have the filter set up to run a conversion script, but the script flashes and quits without any conversion. [...] The .cmd script converts the GSM wavs to mp3s. It works perfectly when run manually. But when I call it using TB! it doesn't seem to run. Is there a 'run' order for filter commands? I mean, are the filter actions run one after the other? Or simultaneously? I would hope one after another. Otherwise you could not forward and delete a message (or assign to a colour group and move to a folder, for example). The script is very basic, but of course requires the extracted attachment (wav) to be exist, so it must be in the folder before it is run. You could test by maybe adding a check to see if the file exists and display a message if it doesn't. I take it the WAV file exists when you look in the folder afterwards? Does the script work if you plant a WAV of the correct name in the folder beforehand? [...] Do you think the filter actions are running simultaneously? Is there some way to pause the execute filter until the attachment is extracted? Have you tried putting the three actions into three separate filters? (make sure first two are set to continue processing with other filters) -- Best regards, MFPA Did you hear? They took the word gullible out of the dictionary Using The Bat! v4.0.28.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting Office filters - again
On 23 August 2008, 02:33, Roelof Otten wrote: In that case check your condition again, might be a matter of a trailing space that's been copied along while it shouldn't have been. Happened once to me, I couldn't understand why my filter didn't get triggered.. ~~~ Thanks again Roelof, That's one of the first things I checked but my filters still don't work. AFAICT, these two are the only one that do not - but then they are the only filters I have that don't filter on either the sender or subject line. I'm going to change my mail delivery route soon to bypass the server that added the certain header, so I've now deleted that filter leaving only the one that should filter on date. Unfortunately, as you say, TB seems to assess the age of a message from the date received not the date apparently created, and I need to filter on the latter. Spammers send a lot of messages with the creation date in the past. I suspect they do this to get past spam reporting tools that won't report messages more than a few days old. Whatever, I sort messages by date created, not date received. So these old messages get shoved to down the list and I need to use Ctrl+Alt+Right to get to the next to delete it. Unfortunately, I've just changed laptop and the video driver intercepts Ctrl+Alt+Right and interprets this as an instruction to change the orientation of the screen image so that it's on its side! I know there are work-arounds, but this is infuriating and I can't find a way to turn it off in the video driver :( -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorting Office filters - again
Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Sorry for this, but yet another issue with SO filters. I'm trying to dump incoming messages that are apparently older than 30 days to my spam bin. The filter is the topmost in the list. In the Advanced tab, I selected Message is older than and set the days to 30 but the filter didn't work. So I tried setting the rule for this filter that Sender included '@', but it still didn't work so I tried changing this to Sender not containing 'zzz' (both rules were in addition to the Advanced setting). It still doesn't work and TB still isn't directing to my spam bin messages apparently created as far back as 1980. A filter that I tried to set up to dump messages that contained a certain header in the Kludges also didn't work, so is there an issue with TB v1 and XP, am I missing something about how filters are supposed to work, something else? (BTW, including the two that don't work I have 96 SO filters) TIA, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting Office filters - again
Hallo Geoff, On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:25:54 +0100GMT (22-8-2008, 16:25 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GL Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 GL Sorry for this, but yet another issue with SO filters. I'm trying to GL dump incoming messages that are apparently older than 30 days to my GL spam bin. IIRC That age is counting from the moment TB received it. GL A filter that I tried to set up to dump messages that contained a GL certain header in the Kludges also didn't work, so is there an issue GL with TB v1 and XP, am I missing something about how filters are GL supposed to work, something else? (BTW, including the two that don't GL work I have 96 SO filters) I don't know whether you're missing something about how filters are working nor do I know about any issues between TB v1 and Windows XP. However, what I do know is that when you're using 92 filters, it's easy to have some other filter interfering with the one that you're trying. So whenever a filter doesn't deliver, the first thing I do is moving it to the top of the list and try it again. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows:(n.)3. The solution to a problem that didn't exist. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.28.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpyJEvAhgkD0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting Office filters - again
On 22 August 2008, 17:26, Roelof Otten wrote: I don't know whether you're missing something about how filters are working nor do I know about any issues between TB v1 and Windows XP. However, what I do know is that when you're using 92 filters, it's easy to have some other filter interfering with the one that you're trying. So whenever a filter doesn't deliver, the first thing I do is moving it to the top of the list and try it again. ~~~ Thanks. For info, I already did as you suggested without success. The two filters I'm having trouble with are the top two in the list. I've also tried moving them down a couple of places in case the number of filters was causing an issue. Unfortunately, that didn't work either :( -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting Office filters - again
Hallo Geoff, On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:35:35 +0100GMT (22-8-2008, 18:35 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GL Thanks. For info, I already did as you suggested without success. The GL two filters I'm having trouble with are the top two in the list. I've GL also tried moving them down a couple of places in case the number of GL filters was causing an issue. Unfortunately, that didn't work either In that case check your condition again, might be a matter of a trailing space that's been copied along while it shouldn't have been. Happened once to me, I couldn't understand why my filter didn't get triggered.. -- Groetjes, Roelof FIDO: the Information Frontage Road. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.28.4 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp4wkRVDr5eg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems with Filters:
Hello Tbudl, I posted this before, but it didn't seem to make it I have a Common filter that sets a param Incoming Mail Condition: anymessage Action: Set User=Fred It seems to set the param ok, but I cannot, then seem to use it with something like: Regular Account Condition: Addtional Params User is equal to Fred Action: Create new message. It appears the filter or sub-filter never sees the variable set to Fred. Is this a BUG or am I doing something wrong? -- Best regards, Gene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080713-0, 07/13/2008 Tested on: 7/13/2008 5:24:52 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question on filters
Hallo monsell, On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:09:19 +0530GMT (9-7-2008, 5:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M the command given to the sub-filter is headers contain Z or text M contains Z. the main filter X is commanded under continue processing M other filters. Why did you enable 'continue processing'? That is not necessary to enable subfilters. M what does continue processing with other filters really do? as you M said, i have disabled this function from the respective filter. 'Continue processing' lets messages that trigger a filter be processed by other filters on the same level. Let's explain it with an example: FilterA FilterB SubfilterJ FilterC SubfilterK SubfilterL SubfilterM FilterD FilterE SubfilterN FilterF FilterG FilterH FilterI In this filter tree FilterF and SufilterL have 'continue processing..' enabled. A message triggers A, all processing stops at A. A message triggers B, it will be processed by B's subfilters and stops afterwards, so it will be matched against J and stop then, whether it triggers J or not. A message triggers C and afterwards triggers K, it stops there. A message triggers C and afterwards doesn't trigger K, but triggers L, it will continue to M and stop there, whether it triggers M or not. A message triggers F, it will be matched against GHI, until there is a match or it has reached the last filter (I) M i just keep the filters the way i want to. Please do so. BTW You also sent this message to me via private mail. Please don't do that to me. I prefer to keep these discussions public. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, VCR - I came, I saw, I videotaped it http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24.27 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpl1FWzhYnDk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question on filters
Msg-Ref: 14858109-Jul-2008 (Wed) 16:21 Hours (GMT +0530) dear mr roelof, M i just keep the filters the way i want to. Please do so. BTW You also sent this message to me via private mail. Please don't do that to me. I prefer to keep these discussions public. thank you for the detailed explanation, appreciated. also regret that i had in error hit the reply all button thereby your private email id too being added to the main email msg. this is very much regretted. -- best regards vernon Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
question on filters
hi, i have created filters under 'common' filters as i use different email id's. there are two main filters called X and Y and messages are filtered in perfectly. under the filter X, i have created a sub filter called Z. the sub-filter too works perfectly. the command given to the sub-filter is headers contain Z or text contains Z. the main filter X is commanded under continue processing other filters. what i want to do is to get messages coming into Y with Z commands sub-filtered to Z although Z is under X at the moment what happens is although the Z is in the header/text of the messages, it goes directly to Y because Z is under X. pleased to hear -- best regards vernon Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question on filters
Hello Monsell, On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:32:39 +0530 GMT (08/07/2008, 20:02 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mmic the command given to the sub-filter is headers contain Z or text mmic contains Z. the main filter X is commanded under continue processing mmic other filters. mmic what i want to do is to get messages coming into Y with Z commands mmic sub-filtered to Z although Z is under X mmic at the moment what happens is although the Z is in the header/text of mmic the messages, it goes directly to Y because Z is under X. The way you have set it up, the common filter is shared by both accounts, if I understand you correctly. The incoming messages is caught by filter X, but continues to filter Y, which moves the message to account Z. This is expected behaviour. The great advantages of common filters is that it doesn't matter through which account the email comes in, it will always be moved to the same folder, regardless of the account it is under. I think you need to set up two identical but seperate account filters. -- Cheers, Thomas. There are plenty of fish in the sea¡K well that¡¦s great for the fish. But I date humans. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.24.23 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question on filters
Hallo monsell, On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:32:39 +0530GMT (8-7-2008, 15:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M i have created filters under 'common' filters as i use different email M id's. ok M there are two main filters called X and Y and messages are filtered in M perfectly. ok M under the filter X, i have created a sub filter called Z. the M sub-filter too works perfectly. great M the command given to the sub-filter is headers contain Z or text M contains Z. the main filter X is commanded under continue processing M other filters. Why did you enable 'continue processing'? That is not necessary to enable subfilters. M what i want to do is to get messages coming into Y with Z commands M sub-filtered to Z although Z is under X In that case you need an additional filter. As I read your message you want messages with both X and Z or message with both Y and Z to be filtered into Z. Create a new subfilter (with Y as parent) to filter Z messages to Z. Another option would be to create a new primary level filter with two condition blocks: (X and Z) or (Y and Z) and place that filter before the X and Y filters, you don't need any subfilters this way. -- Groetjes, Roelof Mr. Bullfrog says: Time is fun when you're having flies. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp0nn7idDCbj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question on filters
Hi On Tuesday 8 July 2008 at 2:02:39 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i have created filters under 'common' filters as i use different email id's. there are two main filters called X and Y and messages are filtered in perfectly. under the filter X, i have created a sub filter called Z. the sub-filter too works perfectly. the command given to the sub-filter is headers contain Z or text contains Z. the main filter X is commanded under continue processing other filters. what i want to do is to get messages coming into Y with Z commands sub-filtered to Z although Z is under X at the moment what happens is although the Z is in the header/text of the messages, it goes directly to Y because Z is under X. Two suggestions: 1. Make Z a filter instead of a sub-filter. If you want Z to only trigger if X or Y is true, you could set a user parameter as an action of both X and Y and make Z filter on that user parameter as well as the Z header/text. or 2. Put a subfilter Z under Y as well, the same as the one under X. 2. is simpler to set up but 1. means if you want to change the actions of the Z filter in the future you only need to change one filter. -- Best regards, MFPA COMMITTEE: A body that keeps minutes and wastes hours. Using The Bat! v4.0.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: question on filters
Hi Mr Roelof, M the command given to the sub-filter is headers contain Z or text M contains Z. the main filter X is commanded under continue processing M other filters. Why did you enable 'continue processing'? That is not necessary to enable subfilters. what does continue processing with other filters really do? as you said, i have disabled this function from the respective filter. M what i want to do is to get messages coming into Y with Z commands M sub-filtered to Z although Z is under X In that case you need an additional filter. As I read your message you want messages with both X and Z or message with both Y and Z to be filtered into Z. Create a new subfilter (with Y as parent) to filter Z messages to Z. Another option would be to create a new primary level filter with two condition blocks: (X and Z) or (Y and Z) and place that filter before the X and Y filters, you don't need any subfilters this way. what i did was placed another command under Z as follows:- header contains Z or text contains Z and not header contains say for example i want the name 'vernon' filtered to Z from X and Y but Z rests under X. mail arriving under X will be automatically be searched for 'vernon' and sub filtered to Z. mail arriving in Y will also be checked for header contains Z or text contains Z and not header contains 'vernon'. since 'vernon' also arrived at Y but will be rejected and transferred to the subfilter Z automatically. i just keep the filters the way i want to. please comment -- Thanks and Best Regards Vernon Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Power Outage Destroyed Operation of Common Filters
On Thu 3-Jul-08 9:42am -0600, Roelof Otten wrote: In case you haven't got any backup, Try to copy and paste all filters to your text editor and follow the same procedure as above, but in stead of restoring the account.srb/account.erb file from mail directory simply delete them Note that every account has an account.srb file too. Those store the account filters and you should leave them alone, the file in the mail directory stores the common filters. Thanks for all those details on the other two approaches - I've color coded that message and parked it - just in case. Deleting both the ACCOUNT.SRB and ACCOUNT.SRX from the Mail folder appears to have solved the problem. Thanks again! I'm still getting a pair of errors, that were part of more errors, that I've been getting at startup in my thebat_Exceiption.log since the power outage. I'll start a separate thread on those messages. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24.25 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP3 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Power Outage Destroyed Operation of Common Filters
Hallo Bill, On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:11:31 -0500GMT (1-7-2008, 22:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: BM Note that all the high level filters (except Incoming mail) are BM repeated in Incoming mail along with Moving In Hooks and there are BM not in there normal sorted order. You wouldn't happen to have a real backup would you? I don't mean one created by TB (as those don't allow only restoring the sorting offic), but a backup created with the explorer or something like winrar that allows for retrieving individual files. If so, copy and paste your new filters to a text editor (one at a time) if your mutilated sorting office still allows that. Close TB. Restore the file account.srb (account.erb when you're using otfe) from your backup to your mail directory Run TB Copy and paste your new filters from your text editor to your sorting office Close TB Start TB In case you haven't got any backup, Try to copy and paste all filters to your text editor and follow the same procedure as above, but in stead of restoring the account.srb/account.erb file from mail directory simply delete them Note that every account has an account.srb file too. Those store the account filters and you should leave them alone, the file in the mail directory stores the common filters. In case you haven't got a file based backup, but you do have an internal TB backup you could try this to restore your old filters. Cut your internet connection Close TB Delete the account.srb file from your mail directory (account.erb when using otfe) Make a copy of your mail directory with the explorer Start TB Restore your TB backup Close TB Copy the backup of your mail directory on top of your restored mail directory Start TB Reconnect your internet connection The cutting of your internet connection is to prevent the loss of messages received while your busy with this procedure -- Groetjes, Roelof Water floats a ship...Water sinks a ship. Old Chinese Proverb http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.24.25 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpAyzYHTyh6C.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Power Outage Destroyed Operation of Common Filters
Hello TB User Discussion List, Sunday, I added several new sorting office incoming filters to my usual account. I failed to shut down TB after doing this and just left my computer in Stand By mode over night. We had a power outage Monday while my computer was on (it lasted longer than the battery). When I restarted, every seemed fine until I tried a Read messages filter from the Common Filters account. Ctrl-Shift-X, which normally deletes a message both locally and on the server, didn't work. When I checked my sorting office, I noticed that the new (added Sunday) incoming filters filters were missing! I then checked the Common Filters - there were my new filters from my account. I moved them, one at a time, from the Common Filters to my account. I had to close and open TB each time or I received an unrecoverable error message and had to shut down TB with Task Manager. Now my Common Filters have this odd structure. I've rebooted WinXP to no avail. Incoming mail Outgoing mail Moving In Hooks Selective Download Read messages Replied messages Outgoing mail Read messages Replied messages Selective Download Note that all the high level filters (except Incoming mail) are repeated in Incoming mail along with Moving In Hooks and there are not in there normal sorted order. I can add, say, a Read messages filter to Common Filters - but it doesn't work. How can I fix my Common Filters so they work again? Thanks for listening. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 4.0.24.24 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP3 POP3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters not working - was: Lost folders
But now none of the email filters I had for the lost folder are working. The problem is that when the folder was lost, it was moved to M What happens if you move the folder (in TB!) to the location the M filters point to and then move it back? Don't know if you need to M close/restart TB! before moving back. My thanks to you and Tim for the suggestion. Moving the folder worked and it appears everything is back to normal now. -- Jack Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filters not working - was: Lost folders
I restored TB's directory to a different location from a daily disk backup I do and then copied over the missing folder and its contents. Still didn't show up. It appears there is a main index file that has become corrupted. The above problem I had where my directory structure became corrupted has been resolved. The main fix, for any who might have this problem, was to delete the ACCOUNT.FLB file for the main folder. But now none of the email filters I had for the lost folder are working. The problem is that when the folder was lost, it was moved to a new location and the filters were all changed, automatically, to follow it. Now that the folder is back where it belongs, the filters are all pointing to the old location. Is there a way to mass edit these filters to point them to a new location? -- Jack Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters not working - was: Lost folders
Hey Jack, My MUA believes mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] was written on Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 1:05:39 PM. The problem is that when the folder was lost, it was moved to a new location and the filters were all changed, automatically, to follow it. Now that the folder is back where it belongs, the filters are all pointing to the old location. Is there a way to mass edit these filters to point them to a new location? Hmmm, how about moving all the messages from the old location to the new one. Then delete the old folder. THEN move/rename the new folder to the location/name of the old folder... -- Lists Flying with The Bat! eMail v3.99.29 MS-DOS: celebrating ten years of obsolescence Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters not working - was: Lost folders
Hello Jack, Saturday, June 14, 2008, 6:05:39 PM, you wrote: But now none of the email filters I had for the lost folder are working. The problem is that when the folder was lost, it was moved to a new location and the filters were all changed, automatically, to follow it. Now that the folder is back where it belongs, the filters are all pointing to the old location. Is there a way to mass edit these filters to point them to a new location? What happens if you move the folder (in TB!) to the location the filters point to and then move it back? Don't know if you need to close/restart TB! before moving back. -- Best regards, MFPA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] War is a matter of vital importance to the State. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't Edit Some Filters
Hello TB User Discussion List, Some of my filters, although they stilll work, cannot be edited. Hmmm - interesting - I have been having filter trouble since latest TB version but have been unable to pin down the symptoms properly - new filters in folders outside accounts seem to be not working. I wonder ifnthere is something about filters that has been upset in latest version? TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [860DB57E.01C8A8B6.44BF974A.381CE279] Name: To\20Someone Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0Ag.com/0D/0Ahh.net/0D/0Ai.com/0D/0Atbbeta-bounces/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0A/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0A.uu.com/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/0D/0Amccarthy\0D\0A}\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CBill\5CInbox\5CTo\20Me IsActive IsSendQueue endFilter I do notice in this filkter you have pasted that thre are forwrd slashes where I woul expect backslashes to esape characters eg: bill/0D/0Amccarthy Could that be something to investifate? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 4.0.24 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
