Re[2]: A slight twist on the filtering question
Saturday, March 04, 2000, 3:30:55 PM, you wrote: Hi Januk, [snip] Well, right now I use SSH through my telnet program and then I have the SMTP and POP3 ports forwarded using SSH port forwarding. So my TB uses the SMTP and POP3 ports on my local machine, and those have been forwarded to the Unix server's ports. This means that I have to launch my Telnet program and login, before TB is launched. If I could make this more seamless, I would be very pleased. Using a batch file, I can run the two programs simultaneously, so the mail server isn't ready for TB to check mail. Or I can wait until I exit the SSH program, which is pointless since it needs to be running when TB checks the mail. I have done this very thing, initiating SSH and then using port forwarding for POP and SMTP traffic through a local port. I'm new to this list so forgive redundance if it occurs... I now use SKIP, a bit of a predecessor to IPSEC. All traffic between my Win98 box and my remote Unix system is encrypted. This includes mail as well as http, ftp, etc. SKIP starts up on boot up in the Windows environment and of course, you would set it up to run when your Unix system boots as well in the way of a DAEMON or SERVER. It has been a wonderful migration as I never have to worry about sniffing, no matter what type of packets I am passing. Nowadays there is IPSEC support for Win2000 (this is what I hear) and if your Unix end supports it, you could be set. As an FYI, we are running FreeBSD on the Unix side though we have gotten IPSEC to work with Linux as well with some small patches. You can get SKIP from Trustworks: www.trustworks.com, both the client and server. Unfortunately, I don't have too much info on IPSEC in detail... this might be useful for you to get a real feel for the strengths (and possible weaknesses) for your uses. Regards, Tom McDonald --TB! user for about 1 year and I love it! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
auto check - mailto crash - verify decrypt ?
Hi, I'm experiencing many problems with the bat 1.51 : 1) The Bat don't automatically (periodically) check my mails any more ! It already happened two times before with v1.49 and I reinstalled it and it worked fine. Now it really don't work any more ! 2) When in any browser I click on a mailto: link, I got a kernel32 error and a crash. Previously it worked fine and it seems that happen since I've installed Opera. 3) In the Bat help, it is explained that when using "verify signature" on an encrypted e-mail, it decrypts it automatically. But in fact, it only checks the signature ! Is the bug in the program or in the help file. (win 98) Any idea ? Thanks in advance for your help -- Tom -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
HTML Viewing
Hello, I am trying to figure out how to display pictures in HTML view. The pictures are show up as gif attachments but when I click on message.htm on place holders show the pictures do not show. I am using version 1.54/12. -- Best regards, Tom mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
how to change settings for all accounts easily
Hello Everyone, was just reading about the issue of how TB forwards emails in mime formatting depending on how it is set up. On checking my accounts I noticed that all accounts had that box ticked. I don't think I did that and think it was by default but that's not the issue of my question. I now changed all my accounts manually to have this unticked. I fully appreciate the option of having different settings for different accounts but is there any way to change something across all accounts if so desired? If I want all accounts to play a sound when mail arrives, is there no possibility to do this once and then instruct TB to do this for all accounts? -- Best regards, Tom using TB 3.65.03 on XP Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: maintenance and max size of folders
Wednesday, March 8, 2006, 6:13:00 PM, you wrote: Also, is there any easy way to archive emails older than xyz and if so, how would I do that. Yes. In the folder's Properties, check the box and enter a value for Keep messages in base for. Then, on the Deletion tab, check the Use folder-specific deletion settings. Under Alternative Deletion, select Move to the specified folder and configure as you see fit. Also, select Use alternative deletion for for purging this folder. On the main tab, you may also want to check Remove old messages (on exit). This is a great suggestion to automate what I was doing with normal filters and manual transfers before but it's not exactly what I meant. In OE I actually removed the relevant .dbx folders and stored them separately on my hard drive. The idea was to keep the email program smaller and hopefully less prone to corruption. I generally do not have to refer to emails older than 6 months (but may have to store them for legal reasons). Could I do the same, ie moving a folder from documents settings / application data/ The Bat/ Folder X to another spot on my harddrive without affecting the working of TB? Could I if necessary put it back at a later stage? Is any of this necessary or are you guys all happy with quite a number of big folders within TB. Thanks Roelof re the max size 2GB, now I know when to start making arrangements for splitting or moving folders . -- Tom using TB 3.65.03 on XP Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
one email is stuck on server - why?
Hello Everyone, just encountered a funny issue. I am using Mailwasher to filter spam. All new emails go through MW and I then decide whether to delete the email on the server or process it. If I process it, then TB will download the email and depending on my config either delete or leave it on the server. This works very well for me. However since yesterday I have one email that is visible through MW on the server but TB does not download it. I have sent some test emails to the same address and they work as usual. Checking this account via webmail I can see that the email is still on the server but TB does not seem to retrieve this one. I did have a system crash yesterday and wonder if this may have happened when TB tried to download this the first time. I have no other explanation. Is is possible to force the download using some trick? -- Best regards, Tom using TB 3.80.03 on XP Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: one email is stuck on server - why?
Saturday, May 6, 2006, 5:20:55 PM, you wrote: I too use Mailwasher and I also use the Dispatcher in The Bat!. You might want to check this setting. Go to the Account Properties. Under Mail Management, see the box titled Mail Dispatcher. Make sure that the setting Show all messages left on server. What may have happened is that the message is considered as having been read and without this setting only unread messages are shown. Thanks - I tried this but no success. -- Tom using TB 3.65.03 on XP Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Best way to migrate to new pc
Hello Thomas, you wrote: I just went through this. This is what I wrote on the beta list: 2.) Customisations gone. This could easily be fixed by copying the tbuser.def from the back-up to the new location, overwriting the existing new file. This appears to be a programmer oversight, as with this new functionality, the backup routine was not updated. I don't worry about the splash screen or registration. I still have the mail and can do that easily. What customisations are you referring to? Does this affect only the new options in V. 3.8? I actually have not done anything, so this would not bother me but if it affects the settings for the individual accounts (existing templates, filters, html/plain text settings ) etc that would be a different issue. 3.) Settings gone. This refers to window size and location etc. Not sure what that means? Thanks for your info and assistance. -- Tom using TB 3.65.03 on XP Current version is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Is The Bat spying on me?
Thursday, June 29, 2006, 6:07:33 AM, you wrote: However, I'm still uncomfortable with the idea that The Bat! may be spying on me. Could someone please try to do a better job of comforting me? Joe, if you need some independent reassurance, why don't you use one of the online scans available: http://www.kaspersky.com/remoteviruschk or even better http://virusscan.jotti.org/ -- Tom using TB 3.65.03 on XP Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Groups Templates
Hello Everyone, I created a group and used a template for messages to these recipients within the group. I just noticed that if I try to send a regular email to one of the group members, somehow the special template is being attached to his email. That was not my intention. What I would like to achieve is to have a group of x people who need to receive regular updates, receive these updates with a minimum effort from me, ie my intent to use a template. However, I have to communicate with them individually too and in that case the template should remain sleeping. I had assumed that if I use as recipient Group A and allocate a template to group A, then all emails to the Group will be with the template. If I write to a member of Group A using the individual name, the template should not appear. What's my mistake? -- Best regards, Tom using TB 3.80.03 on XP Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Groups Templates
Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 8:52:50 PM, you wrote: Your mistake is that you didn't realize that address book templates (be it individual or group based) are always used. So, the only time I would use a template within the address book is if this recipient always gets the same type of message ? -- Tom using TB 3.65.03 on XP Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
msgtag and TB?
Hello Everyone, I came across this program MsgTag http://www.mstag.com/home/ and was wondering how this program would interact with TB? In fact I seem to remember that I can configure TB somewhere to ignore any read receipts coming via OE (though I forgot where it is). As MsTag seems to work somewhat differently, I am curious to know if someone sends me an email and I read it in TB, will the info that I actually read the mail go back to the sender or not? -- Best regards, Tom using TB 3.80.03 on XP Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: msgtag and TB?
Friday, August 18, 2006, 6:36:57 PM, you wrote: As we all know one of the greatest features/flaws (pick what you want) of TB is that it doesn't show pics that aren't sent along with the message. Therefore nobody knows you've read the message since you didn't view the picture. If you open the message in your browser you'll be viewing the picture and the sender will be notified. Personally I like it that way, so for me that is good news. Thanks also, for the good explanation. -- Tom using TB 3.65.03 on XP Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: msgtag and TB?
Saturday, August 26, 2006, 1:41:50 AM, you wrote: Hi Mark T I came across this program MsgTag http://www.mstag.com/home/ and was wondering how this program T would interact with TB? T As MsTag seems to work somewhat differently, I am curious to know if someone sends me an email and I T read it in TB, will the info that I actually read the mail go back to the sender or not? For your information: (some time) after reading your message, I tried out the program (free version) to see if it works with The Bat! (sending I mean). It does. And, only to let you see that you are rather safe with TB!, I'll send you a PM (with MSGTAG turned on). I will not receive any notice that you have read/opened the message as long as you do not take a look at it with your browser. I got your email and have read it in TB. At this stage I will not open the file in the browser, so you should not receive a confirmation. I may then click on it in a few days to generate the receipt. Thanks for testing this. -- Tom using TB 3.80.03 on XP Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smiley
Hello Everyone, I must be particularly slow today but I cannot figure out how to use the insert smile function in the new version that I just downloaded. Well, I guess I can doubleclick the button but is the smiley not supposed to show up graphically? I tried sending some emails to myself in HTML and it seems that when using TB for receiving emails the smiley appears graphically but bold and underlined will not appear when viewing in plain text. On the other hand, sending the email to Opera the bold function will appear as intended but the smileys only show up in letters. Now I am not even sure if I want to go down the html path but if there is a function, I would like to know how to operate it. I assume it depends on how the receiving email prog is set up but can someone provide some details? Could not find anything under help for smile. -- Best regards, Tom using TB 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
No message loaded
Hello Everyone, I am a bit frantic as I just noticed that many of my existing emails seem to have gone. I upgraded yesterday to the latest version and everything seemed fine. I first noticed that when using the search function and then trying to double click on one of the results to open the email, it does not work. Now I get the same result when doubleclicking in the main panel : No message loaded. I suspect it's just some config issue (maybe different by default in the new version) as the email can still be seen in the preview pane. -- Best regards, Tom using TB 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: No message loaded
Friday, September 8, 2006, 6:49:29 PM, you wrote: TL I upgraded yesterday to the latest version and everything seemed fine. TL I first noticed that when using the search function and then trying to TL double click on one of the results to open the email, it does not TL work. TL Now I get the same result when doubleclicking in the main panel : No TL message loaded. I can't reproduce that behaviour over here. You wouldn't per chance have changed the double click speed of your mouse, so that you can't double click fast enough, would you? What happens when press enter when you've selected a message? Double clicking, pressing enter or right click / open all lead to the same outcome: a grey screen with the message no message loaded and the header view folder and folder name. Is it happening with all messages or just with some messages in one folder or from one (group of) sender(s)? It seems to affect all emails older than today, ie prior to my upgrade. All new messages received after the upgrade do not show this behaviour. BTW You say 'no message loaded', is that the message you get or is that what happens? Yes, unfortunately this is the case but as you said, the messages must still be there as I can see them in the preview pane and when trying to forward. -- Tom using TB 3.65.03 on XP Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: No message loaded
Hallo Roelof, Friday, September 8, 2006, 9:01:47 PM, you wrote: I noticed that you've moved back to 3.65.03, Are you still encountering the same problem? Was that the version you were using before? You are very observant, certainly more observant than I am. My signature was wrong, I had only amended the sig in new messages but not updated the reply function. I am still using 3.85.02. What happens when you select all messages in a folder, export them to unix mailbox, import them again to another (new) folder and try to open them then? Never done that before. Tried to export, reimported to new folder as suggested. Only one message was successfully imported and this message then showed the same symptoms. What happens when you copy all messages to another (new) folder and double click the copies afterwards? same effect - no message loaded ??? Just before sending this reply, I went back into the problem emails to fiddle once again with the settings. As the emails were still shown in preview I thought I might have inadvertently changed a setting. I don't know what I did, just went through the options under view and looked at character settings and global view. I don't think I actually changed anything but all of a sudden, everything works as it should including the emails in the test folder that I had just checked 5 minutes ago. Now I am totally baffled. -- Tom using TB 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: No message loaded
Hi Dean Friday, September 8, 2006, 11:15:37 PM, you wrote: I ran into the same problem. I reloaded the MSI file, went back a version and still had grey messages. I eventually went back to the latest 385.01 version and after about 30 minutes all of sudden the emails just started to show up on the preview screen. Weird, yes I know. The messages I received today have not had that problem so I don't know what to attribute this strange behavior. My problem is also gone (hopefully) and as far as I can tell not because I did anything. Let's hope this issue won't pop up again. It's interesting to know though that I am not the only one with this experience. -- Tom using TB 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Handling of Attachments
Hello Everyone, I am wondering about the best way to deal with attachments? I am getting quite a few reports with attachments sent on a weekly basis and I tend to file many of the attached files on my HD anyway. Usually it's good to know that if I cannot find something later on my HD but remember where it came from, it's probably still somewhere in TB and I can save the relevant file again. However this obviously means that my inbox or rather the relevant subfolders is growing rapidly not only by messages but also mb. Any tips from a working environment on how to best organise files with attachments using TB? -- Best regards, Tom using TB 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Old account remove from choices?
Hello Everyone, due to some spam issues with one account's email address being spoofed, I have retired this account and replaced it with a new account. Everything is set up and works fine. Only issue is that if I write emails, the old account still shows up as an option. Is there any way only to show active accounts so that I don't use the old account by mistake when sending an email. Alternatively if I could move the old account down in the hierarchy that would do too. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Old account remove from choices?
Friday, October 13, 2006, 8:06:26 PM, you wrote: On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 at 10:16:52 +0200, Roelof wrote: I think that in order to drop it in the hierarchy you've got to change stuff in the registry in: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Users Depot No you don't. Ctrl-Shift-Up and Ctrl-Shift-Down will move accounts as well as folders within and account. I think you misunderstood. I realise that I can shift the account and folder itself in the panel up or down. My issue is that when creating a new message and checking the active account under options, the now obsolete account is prominently featured in the number 2 spot next to the replacement account. If I am in a hurry, I might tick the wrong box. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Old account remove from choices?
Friday, October 13, 2006, 8:43:53 PM, you wrote: Hello Tom, I think you misunderstood. I realise that I can shift the account and folder itself in the panel up or down. My issue is that when creating a new message and checking the active account under options, the now obsolete account is prominently featured in the number 2 spot next to the replacement account. If I am in a hurry, I might tick the wrong box. Set an access password to your old account and keep it collapsed. This way, if you select it by mistake you will notice it when you are asked for the password. Good idea, did not know about this option. I had deleted the smtp details in account management to prevent sending an email but your solution is much more elegant. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Difference between versions
Hello Everyone, I just went to the ritlabs homepage to check on TB and noticed that a new version is available. Before everyone gets excited, its 3.85.03 and apart from me, everyone else probably knows about this as it happened almost two months ago. The what's new sections provides lots of details as to the differences to Version 3.80.06 but I am running 3.85.02. Does anyone know what has changed from 3.85.02 to 03 and if it is worthwile to change/ upgrade? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Different signatures depending on recipient
Hello Everyone, I would like to use different types of signatures depending on who I communicate with. I am not using the function via the account (with the exception of this one) as for me this would not be suitable. Recipients are different and will require individual greetings. Currently I use a template for this purpose and quickly insert the signature that is appropriate. I do think though that there is probably a more elegant way available with TB? Is it possible to link a signature to a recipient in the addressbook? So each time I send an email to Joe Bloke my signature will automatically be A and if it is going to Jane Doe my signature will be B? If this can be done (by macro?), I would appreciate any assistance especially if it is geared to Non-Macro Experts. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Different signatures depending on recipient
Thursday, November 23, 2006, 12:55:16 AM, you wrote: Hallo Tom, On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:03:12 +1100GMT (22-11-2006, 12:03 , where I live), you wrote: T I do think though that there is probably a more elegant way available T with TB? Is it possible to link a signature to a recipient in the T addressbook? So each time I send an email to Joe Bloke my signature T will automatically be A and if it is going to Jane Doe my signature T will be B? If this can be done (by macro?), I would appreciate any T assistance especially if it is geared to Non-Macro Experts. There are different approaches to this problem. You could use AB templates, either personal or group templates and in those AB templates you can define any signature you want. Ok, tried this and it works fine. Guess this is what I was looking for. Another option would be to create a couple of QTs each only containing a signature, let's call them sig1, sig2, sig3, etc with sig1 being your general signature. Now you take one of the AB fields that you don't use, in this example I use the personal fax field. In this fax field you enter the name of the signature QT that you want to use for this contact, unless you want to use your general sig1 in that case you can leave the fax field empty. At the location of the signature you place this macro: %QT(%ABToFax=sig1) The %QT() macro inserts a QT %ABToFax copies the contents of the personal fax field from the AB entry of the address in the To: header to the message body The construction %ABToFax=sig1 means that when the %ABToFax macro doesn't retrieve any data sig1 will be inserted, this happens when there is nothing in the personal fax field or when there is no AB entry for the intended recipient. So the full construct %QT(%ABToFax=sig1) will insert the signature QT that you've mentioned in the fax field, unless you've got no signature defined for that recipient and then it'll take the general signature. This appears to be much more sophisticated but alas, I fail to understand the steps ( as indicated my knowledge of macros is NIL). I put the macro as indicated in the fax field (which I don't use either) but then nothing happens. When I write a new email to someone, the information is not automatically put into the email. The signature is still either being taken from the account settings or if these are empty, no signature is added. Do I then still have to enter some entry into the text of the email to generate the macro? I tried this by typing the %QT(%ABToFax=sig1) but this did not do anything. Apart from the fact that typing this string seems more time consuming than the handle for a QT (and more difficult to remember for someone like me :) Obviously I am missing something :( -- Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Different signatures depending on recipient
Thursday, November 23, 2006, 7:27:29 AM, you wrote: On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 at 22:03:12 +1100, Tom wrote: I would like to use different types of signatures depending on who I communicate with. I am not using the function via the account (with the exception of this one) as for me this would not be suitable. Recipients are different and will require individual greetings. Currently I use a template for this purpose and quickly insert the signature that is appropriate. I do think though that there is probably a more elegant way available with TB? Is it possible to link a signature to a recipient in the addressbook? So each time I send an email to Joe Bloke my signature will automatically be A and if it is going to Jane Doe my signature will be B? If this can be done (by macro?), I would appreciate any assistance especially if it is geared to Non-Macro Experts. The approach I use is to store this information in the memo field in the address book. Sorry but exactly is this memo field? I store signature, closing text, nickname and other information in the memo field. So an entry for David Smith might look like this: akaDave/aka closingBest Regards/closing sigwork/sig Then I have a quick template to extract that information: ===[ Start Get_Memo_Attribute ]=== %Rem=' Usage: attribute value=%QInclude(Get_Memo_Attribute,Tag,Default_Value) '%- %If:'%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^%_1%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo'='':'%_2'%- :'%If:+%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^(%_1/)%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo+++:++%- :+%SetPattRegExp=(?im)^(?:%_1)(.*?)(?:/%_1)%RegExpMatch=%ABToMemo+'%- [ End Get_Memo_Attribute ] This looks in the address book entry for the individual for a particular tag (e.g. sig or aka) and returns the text for that attribute if it exists, or the default value if it doesn't. So if you are using it for a signature name (and in the example of Dave Smith above, I would have a quick template called worksig) you only have to put in a signature name when it is different from your standard one. If you want more information, I can provide you with the QTs I have that use this. Similar to my follow up to Roelof, this is way beyond me. I don't understand if this is something that I need to set up once and then can retrieve easily with a few keystrokes or if I actually have to remember these codes every time I needed to write an email? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Different signatures depending on recipient
Friday, November 24, 2006, 3:40:17 AM, you wrote: The %QT(%ABToFax=sig1) goes in your templates, you create a number of QuickTemplates called sig1 ... sign, then, in the Fax field, you type the name of the signature quick template you would like used. Excellent, now I got it (finally). I probably should use group templates to get my set-up faster. Probably also should have another look now at Robin's macro sample to extend my understanding of TB power. I realise that I am only using a small part of the features of TB yet. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Sunday, December 17, 2006, 9:41:47 AM, you wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 at 17:51:25 +, MFPA wrote: Why does simply turning off the x-mailer header resolve this? Because that is what these simplistic spam filters that are looking for TB! are searching on. Sorry, I am trying to follow this thread but still have some problems. Is the culprit the field for X-Mailer? What is the connection to User-Agent? Do I have to use one or the other or both? I followed the instructions and added the field for user-agent and now my header (on one account) does show as agent whatever but the x-mailer is still shown as the Bat. I thought the bad spam programs were looking for this as a criteria? Do I have to delete the field for X-Mailer or replace it with something else? Sorry, this is probably very basic for everyone but me :( -- Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Monday, December 18, 2006, 8:33:44 PM, you wrote: You don't need to set User-Agent for this. However, if you still want to identify you email client, you can do so using the User-Agent field. Thanks, much clearer now. Last question - before I change my templates accordingly, is there a specific reason why a User-Agent should still be set up that way. In other words, if I just switch off the X-Mailer and don't create a User-Agent (ie have nothing in there to show my email program), may this have other consequences I should consider? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! still has negative image
Tuesday, December 19, 2006, 10:07:12 AM, you wrote: There are some anti-spam tools that give you spam-points for omitting a Mailer/X-Mailer/User-Agent header. hmm, sounds like damned if you do and damned if you don't :( Well, I have now switched off the X-Mailer and set up the User-agent with your Mijn kleine vleermuis - that has a nice ring to it :) -- Tom using TheBat! 3.85.02 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Associating active account with specific email addresses
Sunday, October 22, 2006, 9:01:50 PM, you wrote: In New Message you put %ACCOUNT=GS1Hello %tofname, [where 'GS1' would be your first active account] etc etc I love this list and the many handy tips on how to make use of TB. Just followed through with this one and it works great. One question though: if you sent an email to a group of contacts and they have different accounts allocated (like 3 recipients with GS1 and 2 with GS2 etc), which account will be taken. I just sent a merry christmas email and was surprised that the account chosen was not the one I had used from the drop down menu. Then I realised that it must have been due to my earlier set-up in the address book. It's no big deal but just would like to know how it operates for future use. In my case the account chosen was the one of the first recipient in the list (and ignoring every other set-up) - would that be always the case? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Saving Multiple Attachments?
Tuesday, January 2, 2007, 12:30:49 PM, you wrote: Hi everyone, How do you save attachments from multiple messages in The Bat to disk all in one go? I highlighted about a dozen messages, right clicked and went to 'Save All To', picked a folder on my hard drive, but The Bat only saved the attachment from the first message. I am using the save all all the time, including earlier today. This should save all files to the chosen folder. I don't however highlight the individual files (I suppose save all is meant to capture all) and this works fine for me. Is it possible that this was a one-off problem, perhaps you were releasing the shift button too early and thus only leaving the first file highlighted for saving? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 3.96.06
Hello Everyone, surfing to the Ritlabs page http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php I notice the latest version is 3.96.06. I downloaded the Christmas version a few days before Christmas and wonder what the difference is between my version (according to TB is 3.95.1 but according to the page on Ritlabs probably is 3.95.01). When clicking what's new it only shows updates comparing 3.95.01 to earlier versions. Does anybody know and does it make sense to upgrade? I suppose it's a minor fix? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 3.96.06
Saturday, January 6, 2007, 12:51:23 PM, you wrote: Changelog for 3.95.06: [-] Header auto-view in POP3 dispatcher didn't work in previous betas. [-] (#0006141) Bug Invalid pointer operation at sending the letter with nesting [-] (#0006137) Fixed some incompatibilities with Win98 (on mail receive all temporary files go to desktop) [-] File Open/Save Dialogs didn't work under Win98 with 3.95.x [-] Windows 9x compatibility issues. [-] (#0006139) Incorrect positions of strings in Key properties dialog of Open PGP key Manager thanks - where did you find this info? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
addressbook query
Hello Everyone, I am trying to improve my usage of addressbook, groups and template functions and stumbled across two queries. It appears that if I include a contact in a group, this contact can no longer be searched in the normal addressbook but only in the groups. While I can set up contacts in various groups, why do they disappear from the overall addressbook listing? Also, if I have set up templates for the group, it appears that they have priority over templates of the individual. Assuming this is correct and I would like to include a contact in a formal group (with legal templates) for recurring messages but also have private emails with this person, how would I do that? If I want to meet for tennis privately, I don't want the formal template to override? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
Saturday, January 20, 2007, 6:07:59 PM, you wrote: T Also, if I have set up templates for the group, it appears that they T have priority over templates of the individual. Actually, it's the other way around. If a individual template exists, it will always override the group template. When you want to send a message to a couple of recipients, the template used is the template that's supposed to be used for the first address on the To: header. TB doesn't care whether they are part of the same group or not. Got it now -priority individual template / group template / account template and if you have a couple of recipients listed individually in the To field, the template used is the template that's supposed to be used for the first address on the To: header. However if this is a mailing to a group with a group handle, then the group template applies overriding the individual template for this particular mailing, right? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
macro and templates
Hello Everyone, trying to figure out the working of a macro with respect to QT and templates. Am I right in assuming that using @QINCLUD=Qt handle within a template is identical to copy/paste the quick template into the template, just being faster? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
T Got it now -priority individual template / group template / account template Well, you're forgetting about folder templates, they go between group templates and account templates. Well, actually I read about these but did not understand when I would be using them nor where I would set up the details. If I rightclick my folders, properties there is nothing there to enter a template? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: addressbook query
Sunday, January 21, 2007, 8:36:01 PM, you wrote: Well, you're forgetting about folder templates, they go between group templates and account templates. T Well, actually I read about these but did not understand when I would T be using them nor where I would set up the details. If I rightclick my T folders, properties there is nothing there to enter a template? look again, there are template tabs. right, previously looked at inbox which does not have any tabs. Now I can see that other folders created by me later do have the tabs. I guess that gives me one further level of customisation. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
reply to macro and addressbook issue
Hello Everyone, I am using the %OFromFName macro in my reply templates and believe this is based on how the incoming email is received (ie how the sender configured his email address or header). I often notice that this is not working well as the output is unsuitable, e.g. one of my contacts uses an email like _joe Company name. In this case my reply comes out as Dear _joe, in other cases they use jane.doe@ and my reply is Dear Jane.Doe . I just sent a message to myself using as address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and then added me to the address book as First Name Test and Last Name Ing. When trying to reply it just says: Hello testing. Is there any way to correct this. I tried to do this within the addressbook by amending how the name is shown there but this does not seem to have any influence on the macro output. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: NOD32 anti-virus and The Bat!
Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 12:47:29 PM, you wrote: FWIW, I appear to have v2.51.26 of NOD32. I have 2.50.25 and clicking on update now tells me my installation is up to date and no update is required. Latest version is 2.70.23 - however at this point you still have to download this manually. The automatic update from 2.5 to 2.7 is still pending and expected soon. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
moving messages
Hello Everyone, I regularly clean out my inbox and transfer the accumulated emails to other folders. I noticed that recently while the process works fine, the little pop-up box moving messages with the bar showing the process seems to get stuck somewhere around 80%. My impression is that the transfer goes through and all emails are transferred but the box freezes as though it is still processing. Any ideas? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.98 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how to select all emails by one recipient in folder window
Hello Everyone, one of my favourite tricks was to click on one email in window view to (only) show all emails from this recipient or to this recipient. I must have a bad day but for the life of me I cannot remember how I do this. It's ctrl + ? or shift + or... when the recipient is highlighted. Can someone please refresh my memory. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.95.1 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Autobackup Scheduler?
Hello Everyone, I upgraded to the latest verson of TB and was greeted by a pop-up explaining the need to backup emails regularly. I had already read on the download page that Auto Backup is a major improvement. I have previously configured TB to schedule a full backup every week and when the new pop-up suggesting the autobackup appeared, I looked at the form and it looked like the previous scheduler. The only thing I did not see was saving the file name with the datestamp. I guess I must have put that in originally after getting some good advice here. Now looking at the help file (index) I can see some info on backup (for manual backup and very general), nothing on scheduler and nothing on autobackup. The same under Tools. So what is the new Auto-backup and in what way does it differ from what I have been doing in the old version? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
filter incoming mails according to what time they were created
Hello Everyone, for statistical purposes I would like to filter incoming mails of a specific account by the time they were created. My intention is to have one filter for all emails I receive that were created between 08.00AM and 05.00 pm. Similar filters for 5.00pm to midnight and midnight to 08.00AM. I looked a the source code of incoming email and tried to find the information required. I am not sure which line has the right information and get confused by the fact that there may be an adjustment to my time zone or GMT. In most emails it appears that the line Date underneath subject shows the right time and if the adjustment (+11.00) is identical to my own, than the time is correct. In other cases it appears as -7.00 and looking at other data, the correct time would be deducting 7 hours from the time shown. Could someone please explain this to me and provide some guidance as to how I best write a filter? I suppose some regEx can do this but that's beyond me. I don't think I could do this with the easy conditions offered under filters? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter incoming mails according to what time they were created
Saturday, March 24, 2007, 7:47:50 PM, you wrote: for statistical purposes I would like to filter incoming mails of a specific account by the time they were created. My intention is to have one filter for all emails I receive that were created between 08.00AM and 05.00 pm. Similar filters for 5.00pm to midnight and midnight to 08.00AM. SNIP I don't think I could do this with the easy conditions offered under filters? Have you looked at the Time Of filter? I did not see that before but I am filtering to a virtual folder and I would like to set the new filter to work on the virtual folder. Filter in virtual folders only provides for date or time interval not time of? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter incoming mails according to what time they were created
Saturday, March 24, 2007, 7:52:05 PM, you wrote: Saturday, March 24, 2007, 7:47:50 PM, you wrote: for statistical purposes I would like to filter incoming mails of a specific account by the time they were created. My intention is to have one filter for all emails I receive that were created between 08.00AM and 05.00 pm. Similar filters for 5.00pm to midnight and midnight to 08.00AM. SNIP Instead of trying to do this with virtual folders, I have now set up common folders and use filters sequentially on the incoming account to provide me with the info. However, I don't like that I need to create copies - the beauty of a virtual folder is that you don't create copies just links. Also, the output is still not correct as some emails show up under both officehour filter and evening filter. I checked and rechecked the filter and they seem fine (time of creation) and I again wonder if this has something to do with the info in source and this time sometimes shown as 21.35 -7.00 ? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: filter incoming mails according to what time they were created
Monday, March 26, 2007, 12:09:43 AM, you wrote: Hello Tom, Sunday, March 25, 2007, 8:02:19 AM, among other things, you wrote: T Saturday, March 24, 2007, 7:52:05 PM, you wrote: Saturday, March 24, 2007, 7:47:50 PM, you wrote: for statistical purposes I would like to filter incoming mails of a specific account by the time they were created. My intention is to have one filter for all emails I receive that were created between 08.00AM and 05.00 pm. Similar filters for 5.00pm to midnight and midnight to 08.00AM. SNIP T Instead of trying to do this with virtual folders, I have now set up T common folders and use filters sequentially on the incoming account to T provide me with the info. T However, I don't like that I need to create copies - the beauty of a T virtual folder is that you don't create copies just links. T Also, the output is still not correct as some emails show up under T both officehour filter and evening filter. I checked and rechecked the T filter and they seem fine (time of creation) and I again wonder if T this has something to do with the info in source and this time T sometimes shown as 21.35 -7.00 ? Are you quite sure the filters don't overlap? For example, one ending at 08.00 and another starting at 08.00. Just a thought :-) While I have indeed the filters overlapping on these, this would only matter if the emails arrived on the hour. The problem affects other emails - one email was created at 2.18 pm and it appears both in officehours and evening. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving on.
Dear Leif, thank you very much for your work and the fact that you started this all. I only moved to TB less than two years and it took me a while to find my bearings. Even now I am probably barely scratching the surface. However what I learned about this great program, I learned here and I very much appreciate what you and the other experts do for us mere mortals. Wishing you all the best -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter Questions
Hello Everyone, I would like to set up a filter to copy all incoming emails arriving in a specific account to a new folder or ideally virtual folder provided the sender's email is already in the original folder (ie. use the filter to notify me that an incoming email is from a known source as opposed to be a brand-new sender). Is this possible? Also, when I fiddled with the folders, I set up a virtual folder linked to the original folder. This now shows all the emails from the original as I had not yet set up any filter. How can I get rid of it now. I am afraid deleting it will delete all original emails too, something I don't want to do? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Thursday, April 26, 2007, 2:59:12 AM, you wrote: Hello Tom, (ie. use the filter to notify me that an incoming email is from a known source as opposed to be a brand-new sender). Is this possible? Yes, it is possible in several ways. Perhaps the easiest and most straight forward way would be that you add your 'known sources' to the address book. Then, you can make Active the Known Incoming filter that is included by default by TB in the Sorting Office when an account is created. This way, messages from 'known sources' will be moved to Inbox-Known folder and the rest will just stay in normal Inbox. sorry, I was not clear enough - the incoming emails usually are not from known sources the first time. These are orders from customers. The majority will be new customers and new emails but over time some will be returning customers. These I would like to catch and review once they come in. However there is no need to filter them in individual folders. The trick with the address book won't work as I don't want to add each sender to the address book on the off chance that they may order multiple times. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Questions
Thursday, April 26, 2007, 9:24:06 AM, you wrote: I think address books (you can have as many as you want/need) are very useful for this type of things because you can add and delete entries with filter actions. In your case it would be simple with a couple of filters. If the sender of a message is NOT in '1st time' AB, add him. And, if he is, he is obviously a returning customer and the filter can move the message to whatever folder you wish. Thanks a lot - this works fine for me. Took me a while to figure out how to set up the filters and to ensure that they work in the correct sequence and that all have the tick to continue, but once done I now get my alerts as requested. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Addressbook query
Hello Everyone, I recently created a new Addressbook containing the addresses of all incoming emails. This worked fine as I then set up a filter to show incoming mails from existing contacts in a special folder. Today I intended to add a further folder for important or suspicious contacts based on a further addressbook that should contain email addresses for monitoring. I created the new address book and then noticed that my previous address book containing all emails is empty. The default personal addressbook including its groups still exists. Looking at the file size of the lost addressbook in the application folder it may indeed by empty as it has the same size as the new AB I created this morning. Is there any easy way to repopulate this AB (basically all email addresses contained in one folder) and any idea what I did wrong (so I will avoid this in future?) -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook query
Friday, May 4, 2007, 9:32:17 AM, you wrote: Hello Everyone, I recently created a new Addressbook containing the addresses of all incoming emails. This worked fine as I then set up a filter to show incoming mails from existing contacts in a special folder. Today I intended to add a further folder for important or suspicious contacts based on a further addressbook that should contain email addresses for monitoring. I created the new address book and then noticed that my previous address book containing all emails is empty. The default personal addressbook including its groups still exists. Looking at the file size of the lost addressbook in the application folder it may indeed by empty as it has the same size as the new AB I created this morning. Is there any easy way to repopulate this AB (basically all email addresses contained in one folder) and any idea what I did wrong (so I will avoid this in future?) sorry guys, figured it out already. I looked at new addressbook when the addresses were actually in a subgroup of the personal address book. I am surprised though that this came allocated to one of my earlier unrelated queries instead of a new question? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook query
Friday, May 4, 2007, 12:13:51 PM, you wrote: Hi On Friday 4 May 2007 at 2:50:42 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom wrote: I am surprised though that this came allocated to one of my earlier unrelated queries instead of a new question? Here, the first of your two posts starts a new thread as expected. Have you inadvertently re-threaded it? not sure what I did but I guess you are right - must be one of those days :( -- Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
another Addressbook and filter question
Hello Everyone, still working on an issue regarding filtering addresses. I have about 1000 emails in one folder (a subfolder) and would like to add all sender's addresses to a Adressbook (subdirectory in Personal Addressbooks). I tried to set up a manual filter and used refilter but I seem to be missing something. Nothing gets exported on the existing emails. How should I best tackle this? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.98.4 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: another Addressbook and filter question
Hi guys, just a quick update on my issue :) I followed Roger's advice and this solved my problem. Now everything works as intended (until I come up with another challenge for TB). Re filtering other folders than the inbox, maybe my query was confusing. The filter worked fine on incoming emails on the inbox and the sub-folder before. (So in this case the sequence of filters was correct). However, what I had intended was to refilter existing emails in the subordinated folder and this did not work as intended. I needed to do this to generate the addresses in the special addressbook I was creating. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
best view mode for this list
Hello Everyone, a while ago a changed something in the setup for the view mode of this list and I cannot figure out how to get back to what I had before. May I ask what are your favourite settings to follow this list and why? I might as well copy your best settings. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
reply to addressbook issue re macro
Hello fellow Batlovers, one of my contacts is using an address that appears as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my header. His email address is normal like [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am losing my hair trying to remove the underline before his first name in my set up for email to him either as new email or replies. I set up his details in address book without the underline and use the following macro:Dear %ABOFromFName. Despite all of this the underline still appears and I have to manually remove it each time. What am I missing? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply to addressbook issue re macro
Friday, June 1, 2007, 11:57:57 AM, you wrote: If you already corrected it, check whether you have another entry for this recipient, or whether you corrected it for the entry in which he has another email address. TB chooses the AB-macros based on the email address. Thomas, thanks but it was just a typo when cutting and pasting in my email. The macro had the full correct version. Checking your second suggestion, I am not sure. My AB only has one listing for this contact, however if I try to write an email the suggestions will not only contain the AB entry but also the version with _. Not sure where to look for the second entry then. Where are the suggested recipients stored (based on received emails)? Also, I now copied the exact same entry in both macros for compose and reply %ABTOFromFName and the output is different. In compose I have as output Dear (blank), Kind Regards... whereas my reply has output Dear _Joe ... hmmm, totally baffled -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply to addressbook issue re macro
Friday, June 1, 2007, 7:08:26 PM, you wrote: Friday, June 1, 2007, Tom wrote: Also, I now copied the exact same entry in both macros for compose and reply %ABTOFromFName and the output is different. In compose I have as output Dear (blank), Kind Regards... Yes, since there is nothing for the macro to take it's value from in a new mail. You probably want to use %ABToFirstName instead. whereas my reply has output Dear _Joe ... Looks like the first name field in AB is _Joe. Change it to Joe Ok, you were right :) re the new mail issue, I now get the output from addressbook but only if I choose the correct suggestion. This is also the problem when replying. However, the other issue remains open as the address is set up correctly. As mentioned before, my address book only shows one listing for this contact like [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when composing a new email and I start typing Joe I have three choices: 1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] In each case the actual email address is identical. So I suppose TB is checking against received emails and the contact may use different accounts where he set up accounts slightly differently (for reasons I don't understand). So, if I use option 3, then my macro will work and I guess that's a solution. Ideally though I would like to suppress options 1 and 2 as redundant and preventing my macro to work. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how to remove history/suggestions for email favourites?
Hello Everyone, still trying to work out my isuses with macros and templates for some of my regular contacts. One of the issues I encoutered is that when I enter the name of the contact in the To: field, TB is bringing up previous addresses used. This is great when it allows me in case of Joe to choose between Joe Bloke, Joe Lewis and Joe Trippiano but it is irritating when it brings up 4 identical email addresses with the only difference being how the recipient appears (i.e all addresses are [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the choice is between Joe Bloke [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Johann Bloke [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Joey Bloke [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Not really sure why I have this collection of variations but it's slowing down my typing/choosing. Is there any way of getting rid of the duplicates. My addressbook has only one entry and I also seem to not understand the purpose of the favourite button in there as at present it's not even ticked for this contact. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply to addressbook issue re macro
Friday, June 1, 2007, 11:57:57 AM, you wrote: Hello Tom, On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:04:19 +1000 GMT (31/05/2007, 09:04 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T one of my contacts is using an address that appears as [EMAIL PROTECTED] T in my header. His email address is normal like [EMAIL PROTECTED] T I am losing my hair trying to remove the underline before his first T name in my set up for email to him either as new email or replies. T check whether you have another entry for this recipient, or whether you corrected it for the entry in which he has another email address. TB chooses the AB-macros based on the email address. After a lot of searching, I finally tracked down a second entry for this contact in an unrelated AB. The contact ended up there via a filter that should not really have applied for this one. Removing the name from this AB fixed the reply issue :) -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
how to manipulate the creation date?
Hello Everyone, sometimes I work on weekends and prepare emails. I do not want to send them on Sundays, so I place them in the outbox and release them only on Mondays. Unfortunately in this case the creation date still appears as Sunday. Is there any easy way to modify this? I know I can open and save each individual email on Monday and this way change the date to Monday but this is extra work. I would like to find a way to either change 10 or 15 emails at once or use a macro to create a fake Monday date for creation. I realise that this is not a normal request for a an email program but I have to learn that nothing about the Bat is normal, so I am hoping there is a trick I can use. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Desktop Search Engines
Thursday, August 16, 2007, 10:32:55 AM, you wrote: Is anyone happily using any of the desktop seach applications with TB awareness? I am happily using Copernic Desktop Version 2.02 and think it's a great program - however it does nothing for my emails. Having said that, the search function in TB is pretty good. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
CC automatically to third party?
Hello Everyone, I am trying to simplify my cc work. I regularly email a colleague and her supervisor wants to be in the loop on all transactions and to receive a cc. I am happy to do this manually but I often forget. Is there a TB function to relieve my memory? Basically I want all emails (write or replied) to be sent to both colleagues. How would I best set this up ? I guess with the address book but I am not sure how to join two recipients? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: CC automatically to third party?
Tuesday, October 16, 2007, 8:50:57 PM, you wrote: T How would I best set this up ? I guess with the address book but I am T not sure how to join two recipients? You could create a group in your address book and have their names in it, then add that group to your favourites. To send a message to both, you would get your favourites list up and in there you would pick the item that says All items. This would send the message to both. If you wanted to send messages individually, then you pick them from the list as normal. Sounds good for compose but how about reply? If I receive an email from A and hit the reply button, anyway to ensure that B is getting her CC without me adding the email manually? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachment handling
Hello Everyone, previously I did not change the default setting for attachments within TB. However, I am now thinking that I would prefer to save all attachments to a central location on my harddrive (ie outside of the TB) hoping that this will reduce the file size within TB. I read through the Help file and changed the setting. However with my test email I noticed that while the attachment was indeed saved elsewhere, the email still showed the attachment (as existing and picture). Is this normal and perhaps my misunderstanding? I assumed I might only have a txt reference to the split attachment with TB / preview pane but the info is complete. Is the file size saved actually smaller now or do I have the attachment saved within TB and in my external directory now and need to do something else? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment handling
I would prefer to save all attachments to a central location on my harddrive (ie outside of the TB) hoping that this will reduce the file size within TB. The setting you chose only moved the file (in your case, the picture) out of the messages.tb? files. When you are reading mail, it does not look any different. Thanks - this is clear now and it works as you explained. One follow up observation: If my preferred location for saving the attachment is on a networked drive and this pc is not active at the time, it appears that the email gets through with TB overriding the instructions and leaving the attachment with the email. In this case it seems to go back into the default location Documents/Settings.../ Application Data/ The Bat/ Account... -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backup Query
Hello Everyone, just wondering about backups? I have scheduled a weekly backup and include Acc. Properties, Folders, Address Books, Global Options and Attachments. This appears to work fine (fortunately never had to use them) and the output is a .tbk file. Two question: a) do I need to backup quick templates separately or are they included in one of the above headings? Where would I find my current QT? b) as mentioned I never had to use a backup but my harddrive now contains 2 dozen tbk files of increasing size. Assuming I don't notice a sudden unexplained drop in file size, is there any reason not to delete older backups? My assumption is that if my most recent backup does not work, it's likely that the older ones might also have problems but more to the point, the value of a backup taken a year ago with respect emails is not very high or am I missing something? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup Query
Sunday, November 4, 2007, 6:05:49 PM, you wrote: QTs are included with all of that. My guess is that they're part of 'account properties' as they're account specific. On disk they're stored in the account.qtn files. hmmm, I don't seem to see any .qtn files on my harddrive? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment handling
I would prefer to save all attachments to a central location on my harddrive (ie outside of the TB) hoping that this will reduce the file size within TB. One further follow-up query: I noticed that this attachment saving works fine but in the target folder I not only collect the real attachments like xls.files or word doc. but also what I consider trash, e.g. winmail.dat or gif from signatures or inclusions from incredimail. Is there a way to filter this to reduce the clutter? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup Query
Monday, November 5, 2007, 6:04:09 PM, you wrote: T hmmm, I don't seem to see any .qtn files on my harddrive? Are you using OTFE? In that case they're stored in account.etn files. Not sure what OTFE means - I am using the Home edition and cannot find any .etn files either. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup Query
Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 7:31:50 PM, you wrote: Hallo Tom, On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:06:21 +1100GMT (7-11-2007, 8:06 +0100, where I live), you wrote: T hmmm, I don't seem to see any .qtn files on my harddrive? Are you using OTFE? In that case they're stored in account.etn files. T Not sure what OTFE means - I am using the Home edition and cannot find T any .etn files either. OTFE = On The Fly Encryption: an encrypted message base, a feature of the pro edition. When you haven't got any account.qtn files on your harddrive, the the only conclusion I can reach is that you haven't got any quick templates. sorry Roelof - my mistake - I do have dozens of QT and using them really simplifies my life. My search for the files was wrong, using ?.qtn did not show a result - should have used * instead. I found them now in the same application data folder as the rest of the stuff. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Accessing old attachments
Saturday, November 10, 2007, 3:40:48 AM, you wrote: Hi all, I've come across an issue with my message base in TB. It appears that some attachments are no longer accessible from the original message. When I open such a message the attachment and its name is visible as normal, however on attempting to open the file I get an message: Contents of the attachment whatever.doc is not available I've run the Maintenance centre and this doesn't seem to fix the problem. Some attachments appear to be available but some aren't! Does anyone have any ideas about what might have gone wrong - or more importantly how I can access these attachments? Hi Paul, how are you normally treating your attachments? I recently changed some of my accounts from keeping in message bodies to in separate directories. If I move the attachment later or delete as supposedly no longer needed in the new directory, then it will no longer show up in my email. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.3 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail directory
Hello Everyone, I just reinstalled my system, imported all messages and everything is sweet. However, I notice that the mail directory is stored on c:drive in appdata/ Can I change this to a different drive to keep my data and operating software separate? I know I can backup to external drives but in case of a crash/ system failure I would still lose some of my mail. Just don't want to make changes now if somebody already knows that this may cause problems down the track? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail directory
Sunday, December 9, 2007, 9:09:33 AM, you wrote: T Can I change this to a different drive to keep my data and operating T software separate? I know I can backup to external drives but in case T of a crash/ system failure I would still lose some of my mail. T Just don't want to make changes now if somebody already knows that T this may cause problems down the track? Options » Preferences » System » Mail directory » Browse. I haven't seen any problems yet changing the directory to whatever I wanted. Ok, I can change this under preferences but how about the existing folders and subfolders. Can I just cut/paste everything to a new location on the other drive? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
exporting messages
Hello Everyone, I would like to use a rollback function on my pc to solve some technical issue. As a consequence I would lose 2 days of email. What are the options to export those and only those. I could do a normal backup but I am afraid that would duplicate every other email that is already in my other version. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter Help
Hello Everyone, despite testing, tweaking and tearing of hairs, I am still having trouble with a specific filter and hope someone here can help me. I would like to filter bounce messages coming from a website into a specific folder. Customers receive a confirmation email when placing orders or registering, but some of these emails bounce due to incorrect details provided. As the confirmation email comes from Account A used for website queries via a form and automated emails, the bounce is addressed to Account A. Under this account I already have a filter to forward any emails to Account B (which is the active account used for individual emails written to customers). This filter is set up as: if recipient contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] move to the folder \Account B\Customer in. This works fine. I put up a new filter ahead of this for the bounces: if Text contains Mail Delivery or Header contains Mailer-Daemon move to the folder \\Account B\Bounce. I had some variations on this before but nothing works - the emails are being dumped into the Customer in Folder coming later in the filtering. I set up a second filter on the Account B similar to above to move all bounces into the Bounce Folder but again, this is being ignored - however does work when filtering manually. Looking at the bounce messages, they are from Mail Delivery Subsystem or Mail Delivery System (not sure why the difference) and have the subject line Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender. Is there a better criteria I should look for in the header for my filter or another reason why my setup is failing. I just would like all incoming mails in Account B with the bounces separated from the other emails. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 1:43:54 PM, you wrote: Hello Tom, On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:41:08 +1100 GMT (20/01/2008, 06:41 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T This filter is set up as: if recipient contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] move to T the folder \Account B\Customer in. T This works fine. T I put up a new filter ahead of this for the bounces: T if Text contains Mail Delivery or Header contains Mailer-Daemon T move to the folder \\Account B\Bounce. This should work, I think. You also said that you put the filter ahead of the customer filter, which is important, as the filters are checked from top to bottom, in that order. I believe there is another problem, somewhere were you didn't look. If possible, I suggest you post the filter here so we can play with it. What exactly do you want me to post? I thought I had provided the details of the filter already? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Sunday, January 20, 2008, 7:47:17 PM, you wrote:
To post the filter, you right-click on it and choose copy. Then you
paste it into your message. I am posting my TBUDL filter here for
demonstration:
Yes, but my guess is that you overlooked something.
thanks - I am sure you are right - here are the details:
This filter is on the account that actually carries the incoming
message:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [5B3C4E3A.01C855C5.5F44B337.2684A21A]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`4`0`Mail\20Delivery\20\0D\0A1`5`0`Mailer-Daemon\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
The following filter is again on the incoming account and set behind
the first filter - this one works though does not help with the bounce
as it captures everything:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [0154AE7A.01C76B43.43122CF8.5E5344DC]
Name: Customerservice
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CCUSTOMER\20IN
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
The third filter below is on the main account. I assume if the first
filter worked properly, I would not even need the second filter.
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [1D164CA0.01C854DF.6E62D0E0.2EAE5A67]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`MAIL\20Delivery\0D\0A1`5`0`MAILER-DAEMON\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
--
Tom
using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP
Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Monday, January 21, 2008, 12:56:57 PM, you wrote:
TB! Message Filter
Please post the filters without the at the beginning. The way you
posted them, I would have to copy from your mail into a word
processor, take all these quote marks out manually, and then copy from
there into the Sorting Office.
sorry about this :(
here we go again:
1. Filter:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [5B3C4E3A.01C855C5.5F44B337.2684A21A]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`4`0`Mail\20Delivery\20\0D\0A1`5`0`Mailer-Daemon\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
2. Filter:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [0154AE7A.01C76B43.43122CF8.5E5344DC]
Name: Customerservice
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CCUSTOMER\20IN
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
3. Filter:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [1D164CA0.01C854DF.6E62D0E0.2EAE5A67]
Name: Bounce
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`MAIL\20Delivery\0D\0A1`5`0`MAILER-DAEMON\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCustomerservice\5CBounce
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
hope that helps.
--
Tom
using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP
Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Monday, January 21, 2008, 11:08:29 PM, you wrote: Hello Tom, On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:09:12 +1100 GMT (21/01/2008, 11:09 +0700 GMT), Tom wrote: T here we go again: T 1. Filter: This is in Account A. It moves the messages to the bounce folder in Account B. You say it works. T 2. Filter: Is this also in Account A? Since the first filter is set to continue, the messages will now be moved back from the Bounce folder to the Customer In folder. My suggestion: Take the Continue tickmark off the 1. Filter. T 3. Filter: If this is in Account B, the message won't be filtered. The filters are only triggered when messages arrive in the account directly, not via filtering action. T hope that helps. Yes, I imported the filters and took a look at the settings. If I got it right in which accounts the filters are, I hope this helps you. If I am mistaken about the accounts, please clarify before I delete the filters again from my Sorting Office. Thomas, thanks for your assistance. You are right with respect to the accounts but that does not fully solve the issue. I understand now that my third filter only works on bounces aimed to Account B directly. So this won't help me with bounces from my automated account. However I would still like to filter bounces from this account to the bounce folder. Your suggestion to remove the second filter causes a problem due to a misunderstanding. The first filter moving bounces from Account A to Account B does not work correctly. Instead of moving the messages to the Bounce Folder of Account B, it drops the messages into Customer In / Account B. Or more likely, it does not work at all as the second filter on Account A is meant to do exactly that. The reason is that the account is not only used for automated emails but also for customers trying to contact us by form. I am not sure I understand the logic behind your suggestion re 2. Filter. You indicate that as my first filter is set to continue, the second filter may undo the work of the first filter. I will test your suggestion but would have thought that once moved based on 1. Filter, the second filter should not have any power over those emails anymore. If it works this way, can we amend the 2. Filter to exclude certain emails? Anyway, I will try to inactivate the filter and see what happens first. Thanks for your help. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Help
Tuesday, January 22, 2008, 12:03:30 PM, you wrote: T Anyway, I will try to inactivate the filter and see what happens T first. Don't inactivate any filter. Just take that frigging tickmark off the Continue option in the first filter, that's all. Thomas, thanks again for your patience. Everything is working fine now. I realise that I did not fully understand the meaning of the sequential filters and the tickmark. I believed that without the tickmark the following filters would not come into play at all (even for other messages). I also thought once a message had been moved following filters were not relevant anymore. I will be more careful with my filtering in future. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Which spam filter for The Bat?
Saturday, January 26, 2008, 6:03:14 PM, you wrote: I would ideally like to isolate spam for inspection rather than have it automatically deleted. Mailwasher does not automatically delete on the server. Instead you run it as a separate program and it shows you all incoming email before you retrieve these emails to your email programs. It has a leaning filter but you can inspect all flagged emails prior to processing. Once you process, then good emails are either downloaded to your pc into your email program or deleted on the server and never make it onto your pc. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Another filter request
Hello Everyone, I have another filter request and hope the experts here can provide me with an easy to copy filter. I am saving all attachments separate from the email body on my harddrive in a special folder. Some of my partners seem to use outlook and their emails also contain useless winmail4.dat files or companyname_email_logo5.gif as further attachments. (the digits in the files vary). I currently delete these manually from my harddrive. Is there a way to have these stripped automatically? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Backup Query
Hello Everyone, I am using the scheduler to back up my email with the output file being xxx.tbk. I also regularly backup my whole folder set under application data. In the past when I had to reinstall my OS (XP) I got everything up and running quickly by copying the full folder set. I also experimented with having the mail directory moved from one drive to another one under preferences and that worked fine too. I never used the ..tbk file to restore and I am just curious what the difference is between backing up via ...tbk file or via saving the mail directory? Any advantages or disadvantage of one over the other? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup Query
Friday, February 8, 2008, 7:42:26 PM, you wrote: T I never used the ..tbk file to restore and I am just curious what the T difference is between backing up via ...tbk file or via saving the T mail directory? Any advantages or disadvantage of one over the other? Disadvantage is that you can only restore to the same path Right now my TB installation is the default one with the mail directory under application data on the default drive. So assuming I had to do a reinstall and chose the default set up, TBK import should work fine. On the other hand, you say that if i were to put my mail directory on a separate drive when doing a new installation, an import via tbk would fail? -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Backup Query
Friday, February 8, 2008, 11:13:18 PM, you wrote: Hallo Tom, On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 23:00:45 +1100GMT (8-2-2008, 13:00 +0100, where I live), you wrote: T On the other hand, you say that if i were to put my mail T directory on a separate drive when doing a new installation, an import T via tbk would fail? Yes. Unless it has been changed and I didn't notice that. thanks for that - in that case I better write down the exact path to have the option to match it in future. I notice that each time when I do a new installation there may be slight variations as to which account name I use for XP. If my pc dies, I am not sure if I could remember the full path correctly. I guess it's good then to have a full back up of the mail directory too. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best 3.x Version?
Friday, February 8, 2008, 10:51:52 PM, you wrote: As I am currently not brave enough (and neither have the time nor the need to upgrade to 4.x) I would simply like to install the latest and best 3.x version and live happily with it for the next years. Any opinions on which one to use? Which version proofed to contain the least number of bugs? Thanks a lot! Have not had any problems with 3.99.29 -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory usage
Hello Everyone, just wondering what your average memory usage is for your bat? I never paid much attention to this but I recently noticed in task manager something like 60,000-70,000 K and was a bit surprised. Would that be normal on XP? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory usage
Saturday, February 23, 2008, 2:06:09 AM, you wrote: On Friday, February 22, 2008, 12:37:51, Tom wrote: just wondering what your average memory usage is for your bat? I never paid much attention to this but I recently noticed in task manager something like 60,000-70,000 K and was a bit surprised. Would that be normal on XP? It's currently using 228MB virtual, 61MB working set and 87MB private bytes here. Ok, just to put this into context, what is virtual, working set and private - also where do you get your data from. I was only quoting from Task Manager where the current figure (and only figure I can see) is 65,500K - I suppose this is 65.5M. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Addressbook extended
Hello Everyone, I was just fiddling with a filter and came about the option to select Address book extended as opposed to Address book or Address Groups. What does this refer to? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Addressbook extended
Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 8:01:37 PM, you wrote: Hallo Tom, On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:20:46 +1100GMT (4-3-2008, 9:20 +0100, where I live), you wrote: T I was just fiddling with a filter and came about the option to select T Address book extended as opposed to Address book or Address Groups. With 'address book' you check whether the address is in any of your address books. 'address book extended' checks specific address books. 'address book groups' checks address book groups for an occurence of the address. excellent - thanks Roelof -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.14.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Templates - where are they stored
Hello Everyone, if I wanted to back up my templates, where would I find them? -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Templates - where are they stored
account.cfn - account and folder templates, save message template account.qtn - quick templates print.ini - print template avconfig.ini - template for message about found virus excellent - thank you. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Template annoyance
Hello Everyone, nothing serious but I cannot figure out how to fix it. For reasons that are not quite clear to me to of my correspondents appear as Dear _Paul or Dear Joe-xxPTY when using the reply function. Everytime I have to manually fix this. I have looked in the address book under properties/reply and it is set up as Dear %ABOFromFName. When I check the first name under properties it is fine showing only Paul. Both are members of a company group but the templates are not used for the company. Templates under Account properties are showing again Dear %ABOFromFName. In case of Paul I suspect the reason is that his email address on incoming emails is configured to show _Paul XXX with TB thinking his first name is _Paul. What do I have to do to automatically override this. The second case is even more baffling (to me :) ) as the incoming email only shows Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] as normal. No idea why my reply insists on adding -xxPTY. -- Best regards, Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template annoyance
Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 6:23:33 PM, you wrote: Hallo Tom, On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:50:39 +1000GMT (20-5-2008, 9:50 +0200, where I live), you wrote: T I have looked in the address book under properties/reply and it is set T up as Dear %ABOFromFName. When I check the first name under properties T it is fine showing only Paul. Both are members of a company group but T the templates are not used for the company. T Templates under Account properties are showing again Dear T %ABOFromFName. Check your address book for multiple entries with their addresses. Both are only listed once but appear in the overall addressbook and the group representing the company. In case of Paul in an additional group of directors. However the listings are identical and do not show the funny additions. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template annoyance
Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 8:45:31 PM, you wrote: Hallo Tom, On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:22:39 +1000GMT (20-5-2008, 12:22 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Check your address book for multiple entries with their addresses. T Both are only listed once but appear in the overall addressbook and T the group representing the company. Check better. This problem only occurs when you've got multiple address book entries with that address. In the other entry it doesn't have to be the primary address. In case you're using multiple address books it's also bad to have the same address in two (or more) address books. You mention that the contacts are listed in the group(s) and in the overall address book. You do realize that one entry can be a member of multiple groups and that it isn't necessary to have a separate entry in both groups, do you? And an entry from a group will only be listed in the overall display when the properties of that group have 'Hide items if not explicitly selected' unchecked, that is not the default. I suggest that you uncheck the 'Hide items...' for all address book groups and that you check the overall listing while it's sorted on address. That won't find entries with duplicate secondary addresses, but it'll make it a lot easier to to find duplicate primary addresses. Top Marks Roelof and thanks a lot. I could have sworn that there were no other entries but I have one filter for a specific purpose and all emails coming through this filter automatically become members of another group. The two contacts were not supposed to be in there and because I overlooked the hide items function, I did not previously locate them. I also discovered F7 for search which seems much more comprehensive than using the search box. -- Tom using TheBat! 3.99.29 on XP Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
