Can we have common filters that work on all new mail?

2002-03-23 Thread lists


Dave said
 Quite a few folks, including me, have voiced the
 need for the ability to filter inbound mail from different sources
 into a common set of folders.  Would not the best solution, given
 TB!'s account-oriented structure, be to provide for what one might
 call 'common-filters', i.e., a set of filters which operate on all
 inbounds regardless of account, before the account filters are
 invoked?

 Or I way out here by myself?  :)

Not at all. THat's exactly what i'd like to see.

Well, that plus robust importing of unix MBOX files (I just submitted
a bug report after a 500MB mailbox produced about 50 emails that are
bogus. Lines that start with From seem to be always treated as
the start of a new email, and one guy keeps starting his messages
with From what I know... ;-)

Moz



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tmp files left by TB!

2002-06-18 Thread lists


wow, just looked at my temporary internet files and found tons of
TB temp files.. any idea what setting causes them to be cleaned
up.. a lot of them were messages!!! and old..

i'm curious about how this happened and why?

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Re[2]: tmp files left by TB!

2002-06-18 Thread lists

yep, I do use norton.. maybe tb should wait to continue until the
file is free? man, this is a big problem, full text viewable by
any editor or file viewer.

anyone  else have this problem?

thanks for the quick response.

Laura




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JA On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...

 wow, just looked at my temporary internet files and found tons of
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 up.. a lot of them were messages!!! and old..

 i'm curious about how this happened and why?

JA I had it do that to me a while ago... in fact spawned temp files so
JA rapidly, I had over 100 megs within 2 hours... Reinstalled TB! and it
JA went away... not sure about that though. By any chance, do you have a
JA virus scanner on your computer? It could be possible that TB! is
JA creating a file, your virus scanner locks it for scanning, then when
JA TB! tries to delete it, the file is reported as locked, so TB!
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Re[3]: another question to learn how these regexes and makros work...

2003-02-01 Thread lists
Hi All,

Anne's macro sounds very interesting, but I'm afraid I'm not very creative.
Does anyone know of a place where I can download some short, witty sayings,
proverbs, etc. to use with this? Thanks.


Best regards,

Scott A. Blystone
Rochester, New York


Friday, January 31, 2003, 5:56:36 PM, you wrote:

A Friday, January 31, 2003, 10:17:40 PM, ~John wrote:

~  Peter, I'm not interested in displaying what song I'm listening
~  too... but I would like to know how you go about adding the random
~  quotes in your signature?


A This is another neat macro ~John - put all the quotes you want to use
A into a plain text file - one quote per line, and save as cookies.txt
A to your TB! folder for ease.  Then at the bottom of your message
A templates add this line:

A %COOKIE=C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\cookies.txt

A Changing the path to your cookies.txt file as suits where it is on
A your system of course. Whenever you send a message the macro will
A randomly extract a cookie line and add it as a quote to the bottom of
A your outgoing message. :-)





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Question about greyed out signatures

2003-02-06 Thread lists
Hi All,

I've  been  a  very  happt  The  Bat! user for only a few short weeks, and I'm
trying  to  learn all I can about the application. My questions is, I believe,
simple, yet I cannot seem to find the answer to it.

Most  of  the  messages  I see on this list have the signtaure and footer in a
light greyed out text. It looks quite sharp. When I send myself a message I am
unable to duplicate this effect. Is this a function of The Bat! (something I'm
missing), or is it something out illustrious moderator is doing? Thanks.

Best regards,

Scott A. Blystone
Rochester, New York

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Re[2]: Question about greyed out signatures

2003-02-06 Thread lists
Hi Csaba,

Thanks  for the answer, but it answers the wrong question. I already HAVE that
option  selected.  My  changes  need,  I  think,  to be in the EDITOR, not the
viewer.


Best regards,

Scott A. Blystone
Rochester, New York


Thursday, February 6, 2003, 8:23:01 AM, you wrote:


CK Hello,
CK Adjust your Options - Preferences -Viewer - Rich Text/HTML.

CK Now it should be nicer.
CK I hope it helps.
CK --
CK Best regards,
CK 
CKCsaba Kiss
CK   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CK  tel:+4687286259
CK   fax:+468330498
CK 

CK This message was created on Thursday, February 6, 2003.

CK Thursday, February 6, 2003, 2:12:30 PM, you wrote:

lsu Hi All,

lsu I've  been  a  very  happt  The  Bat! user for only a few short weeks, and I'm
lsu trying  to  learn all I can about the application. My questions is, I believe,
lsu simple, yet I cannot seem to find the answer to it.

lsu Most  of  the  messages  I see on this list have the signtaure and footer in a
lsu light greyed out text. It looks quite sharp. When I send myself a message I am
lsu unable to duplicate this effect. Is this a function of The Bat! (something I'm
lsu missing), or is it something out illustrious moderator is doing? Thanks.

lsu Best regards,

lsu Scott A. Blystone
lsu Rochester, New York

lsu I sometimes wonder if the manufacturers of foolproof items keep a fool or two
lsu on their payroll to test things. - Alan Coren


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Re[2]: Question about greyed out signatures

2003-02-06 Thread lists
Hi Jurgen,

Perhaps  I'm  not explaining myself well. I actually do not care what the text
looks  like  as  I compose it. I'm speaking about the end result, the received
message  after  I  send  it.  When  I  look at most of the posts I see on this
reflector  (except  for the one you just sent), I see that the signatures come
out  in  a  very light greyed-out text. I wish to duplicate that effect in the
messages I send out. Does this clarify what I mean? Thanks.


Best regards,

Scott A. Blystone
Rochester, New York


Thursday, February 6, 2003, 8:46:29 AM, you wrote:


JH Hello to Rochester,

JH to get this straight... Your problem is that you want to see those
JH color effects (like the light grey for the sig part) in your EDITOR,
JH when you actually WRITE a message? or that you can't see that effect
JH when you look at messages that you wrote?

JH Jürgen




JH Thursday, February 6, 2003, 2:35:14 PM, you wrote:


 Thanks  for the answer, but it answers the wrong question. I already HAVE that
 option  selected.  My  changes  need,  I  think,  to be in the EDITOR, not the
 viewer.




 Thursday, February 6, 2003, 8:23:01 AM, you wrote:


CK Hello,
CK Adjust your Options - Preferences -Viewer - Rich Text/HTML.

CK Now it should be nicer.
CK I hope it helps.





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Re[2]: Question about greyed out signatures

2003-02-06 Thread lists
Hi Marck,

Bingo! That's it. Thanks a bunch!

PS: I haven't movified THIS template yet to add the cut mark! :-)


Best regards,

Scott A. Blystone
Rochester, New York


Thursday, February 6, 2003, 8:58:15 AM, you wrote:

MDP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
MDP Hash: SHA1

MDP Hi Scott,

MDP @6-Feb-2003, 08:12 -0500 (13:12 UK time) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SAB] in
MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

SAB Most  of  the  messages  I see on this list have the signtaure
SAB and footer in a light greyed out text. It looks quite sharp.
SAB When I send myself a message I am unable to duplicate this
SAB effect. Is this a function of The Bat! (something I'm missing),
SAB or is it something out illustrious moderator is doing? Thanks.

MDP Two things:

MDP 1) The editor doesn't show rich text formatting, so you won't see
MDPthe fancy sig display while composing a message.

MDP 2) To be a signature, the signature text has to be separated from
MDPthe body text by a cut mark. There's quite a good explanation
MDPof the cut mark in the help file but to cut a long story short
MDPgroan it is dashdashspacereturn. Like mine would have
MDPbeen if PGP hadn't fooled around with it!

MDP - --
MDP Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator
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ATT WorldNet Account with The Bat!

2003-02-12 Thread lists
Hi All,

I'm using v1.62i of The Bat! Normally, I have a broadband connection at both my
home and office, so I've had no need for a dial-up provider. Recently, however,
I've  been  traveling  a  bit,  so  I  thought  I'd get myself an ATT WorldNet
account.  I'm  trying  to set up The Bat! so that I can access this POP account
from  my broadband providers. I went on-line vial dialup and enabled WorldNet's
Access Anywhere option. I'm able to access my WorldNet e-mail from my broadband
account  with Outlook Express, but I'm totally unable to get a connection using
The Bat! Here are my settings:

POP server: ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net
TLS to dedicated port (port 995)

I've  tried  every  setting  Authentication  setting and the account log always
tells me the following:

 02/12/2003, 14:40:57: FETCH - receiving mail messages
 02/12/2003, 14:40:57: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake
!02/12/2003, 14:40:57: FETCH - Server reports TLS error: Handshake failure.
!02/12/2003, 14:40:57: FETCH - TLS protocol error: Unexpected message.
 02/12/2003, 14:40:57: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received

 Has anyone successfully set up an ATT WorldNet account for an external ISP or
 broadband connection? I can make Outlook Express work, but not The Bat!

 Help! And thanks!


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Re: ATT WorldNet Account with The Bat!

2003-02-15 Thread lists
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Hash: MD5

Hi All,

I  thank  Michael for his words of wisdom in setting up my ATT WorldNet e-mail
account  with  The  Bat!, but perhaps I did not express myself very well when I
wrote  my  original  message. I already have STUNNEL working and it works fine;
however,  The Bat! supports several types of SSL connections. Ideally, I do NOT
wish  to  run STUNNEL. It's just another process running in the background that
takes  more  memory  and is a possible source of other problems. I'd like to do
this without STUNEL. Has anyone been successful at this? Thanks.

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Re[3]: Sobig

2003-02-27 Thread lists
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Hi Robert,

Thursday, February 27, 2003, 10:09:58 AM, you wrote:


RS Definition  wise  yes but. I have AV 2000 on this machine and it seems
RS to  deal  strangely  with this virus. It stores temp files on disk and
RS that  trigger AV pop ups to annoying extremes as 100s of popups happen
RS as  part  of  the folder filter process. Nothing is infected but it is
RS annoying. I imagine any virus embeded email is safe with the_bat

RS Also if you know of any substitute SMTP programs I might use to filter
RS out  such viruses or worm as in this case! My ultimate solution was to
RS turn  off  auto  protect  and  receive the mail then I looked for .pif
RS attachments and found one with subject:  Re: Documents

RS I  then  both  tried the removal to verify no infection took place and
RS sure enough none occurred. I then truned back on auto-protect.

I have been using The Bat! now for several months, and I wouldn't want
to use anything else at this point. I have used both Trend Micro
PC-cillin and Norton Anti-Virus 2003 with it, but several weeks ago I
purchased Kaspersky AntiVirus Pro and set up The Bat! to use it
instead. Since it is a Russian product, it is not well known in the
U.S. During the weeks I have been using it, Kaspersky has flagged a
number of e-mail propagated viruses. It has worked VERY well and
operates very smoothly. Although the Pro version is $99 U.S., there is
a regular version availble for about half that price. For anyone who
is committed to using The Bat! I would really suggest you take a good
hard look at it.


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Service Pack 1

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AW: Re[4]: View mode, sorted by and sub sorted

2004-06-24 Thread lists
Hi,



 --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---

 Thursday, June 24, 2004, 3:28:30 AM, Wayne wrotened:

 Wayne If they provided a manual, they'd likely sell a lot more copies

 Wayne --  and  get  fewer  requests for support. Most people won't be

 Wayne willing  or have the time to follow a discussion list like this

 Wayne just to be able to use the program.



  I  guess  we're encouraging sociability And you're more likely to

  get the exact answer you want from a person that is responding to you

  than a book that is written generally about a problem.



What about setting up some kind of wiki?

That would enable users to create a kind of online help document for other
users; if it is set up right, with a proper categorisation of topics, then
it would be easy to find out all these things, that some users found in
the program.



sincerely,

Marije Baalman



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Re: POP3 to IMAP

2004-11-22 Thread lists
 The account in question currently has about 30 folders with multiple
 filters in place to move messages to these folders.


Another thought, you may want to reconsider using IMAP if you rely on
filtering. I've still not had any success with automatic filtering on IMAP
accounts.
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Re: POP3 to IMAP

2004-11-22 Thread lists
 T Use Thunderbird to copy the messages to IMAP -- it's much better at
 T this than TB! is.

 Hmm, if there a brief guide available of how to do this?

What I did was from TB!, select the messages in a folder and export as
unix mailbox in the Tbird Local Folders (in your profile/mail folder). I
called the mailbox temp.
Then in Tbird, open the Local Folders/temp folder, select the messages and
move or copy to the appropriate IMAP folder.
Go back to TB!, repeat with the next folder, choosing to overwrite temp
(not append).
It's a long, laborious process, but once you're on IMAP, you can switch
between clients at any time (or run a couple of different clients
simultaneously).
But if you rely on automatic filters in TB!, you may not want to use IMAP.

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Re: TBUDL Digest, Vol 201, Issue 35

2005-08-20 Thread lists
 Hi TBUDL'ers,

 Bayes Filter plugin v2.0.3 has stopped working. It was working fine,
 catching pretty much everything (I get like 50 spam msgs/day). After
 I edited the Whitelist exclusions list, it stopped and no messages are
 sent to the Junk folder now.

 I tried uninstall/reinstall (and training) but it didn't work. I
 believe there might be a bug related to where it stores it's database.
 The reason I say this is that my whitelist file was on a different
 drive than the other database files. I checked them and they are all
 pointing to The Bat! program folder but maybe it got lost somewhere
 else (registry?).

 The BayesIt filter that comes with TB! installation package doesn't
 work for me because it doesn't have an email whitelist feature.


 -- 
 cheers!
  alien

Alien and all,

I had the same problem a while back but I fixed it. You have to be very careful 
what you include in the whitelist file, especially if it's just text. For 
instance, I had the line TEXT: luxsci.com in my file. What you need to know 
is that this plug-in apparently searches *the entire header* for this text. My 
e-mail provider happens to be luxsci.com. I wanted to whitelist any e-mail 
coming from that domain. Unfortunately, the plug-in ends up whitelisting *any* 
e-mails that have luxsci.com *anywhere* in the header. *All* my *own* e-mail 
messages no matter who they were from had this string in them. Thus, *every 
single e-mail* I received ended up being whitelisted. The appearance was that 
the plug-in had stopped working entirely. Because of this I recommend only 
putting *full* e-mail addresses in the whitelist such as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hope this helps a bit.

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BayesIt Plug-in

2005-08-30 Thread lists
Hello tbudl,

  This may sound like a really dumb question, but I downloaded the rar
  for the BayseIt plug in, and expanded it.  How do I install it?

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 lists

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Problem with (all) Filters not working

2014-08-15 Thread Lists
I use a few imap email accounts. They are 1and1 fwiw ..
I use one of two computers, individually, in  a week.

Of all the accounts, One, and one only, refuses to process all the
email. It does  randomly filter several emails though. I mean, one day I
might get 200 List emails of which 30 are filtered. Another time I
might get 90 filtered.

I can see no pattern; no exclusion filter, and this happens on both
omputers. If I look in the 1and1 web-interface, I do not see anythng I
could have done to block filters as all the incoming traffic at 1and1 is
passed to The Bat1 ..

To reiterate, the other 1and1 imap accounts, ON TB!, successfully filter
every single Inbox entry to sugsequent 'Common' Folders.

what do I look at to find the problem?


thanks

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2 PGP bugs that could be embarassing

2001-03-14 Thread dp-lists


Thought that the 2 following bugs using TB! and PGP might be of interest -
both will allow you to send an unencrypted message when you think that you
are safe.

1 - forwarding HTML emails with PGP encryption in insecure

2 - The field %ENCRYPTCOMPLETE/ the Privacy - Encrypt when completed
option is lost when you save a message as draft.

cheers,
davidp.
-- 
David Pascoe, [EMAIL PROTECTED], South Perth, Western Australia

Bug description has been sent to developers, included here for your info.
-

Hello The Bat! developers,

  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.51
  Serial Number 5785E114
  under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998  
  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:
forwarding HTML emails with PGP encryption in insecure

If you forward a HTML email, TB! will encrypt the `text' part of the
message, but will also attach a file - message.shtml - and this will
not be encrypted - so you may think that your email is secure, but
alas you have just forwarded an unencrypted copy of your message.

  Steps to reproduce the bug:
generate a HTML email, say using outlook express, send it to your TB!
mailbox. Forward it, and set Privacy-Encrypt when completed. When it
gets forwarded, take a look and see that the main text is pgp'd but
message.shtml has been attached unencrypted.

Regards,
  David Pascoe
-

Hello The Bat! developers,

  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.51
  Serial Number 5785E114
  under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998  
  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:
The field %ENCRYPTCOMPLETE/ the Privacy - Encrypt when completed
option is lost when you save a message as draft.

  Steps to reproduce the bug:
Either use a template, or set Privacy - Encrypted when completed when
creating a new message. First time hit the save as draft hourglass
icon to postpone creation of the message. Now when you go back to
complete the message and either send direct or put into the outbox,
the message will not be pgp encrypted.

Now, create a new message again, selecting encrypt when complete. This
time put into the outbox. Go back, it will be encrypted, and you could
if you wanted decrypt and keep composing.

So the bug will result in people mistakenly sending unencrypted email
if they used the draft feature.

Regards,
  David Pascoe
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Linux anyone?

2001-05-04 Thread Mailing Lists

This subject may well have been discussed at length in the past, but
as this is my first post, and I am relatively new to The Bat! (about
two months register now), I'll go ahead anyway.

Is there ever any plans to create a Linux version of TB? With the
greater rise to prominence this operating system is beginning to
recieve, I myself am thinking of going over at some point in the
future, but what would I do without my favourite mail client?

With many of the other projects I follow, Linux versions are begining
to rise. Opera's broswer is now quite advanced, and their has been
rumours of Xnews featuring soon on the platform

Anyway, just thought I'd ask, and hello to everyone on this list!

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Re: Linux anyone?

2001-05-04 Thread Mailing Lists

Friday, May 04, 2001, 7:48:15 PM, you wrote:

ML Anyway, just thought I'd ask, and hello to everyone on this list!

...and wouldn't it be great if I set-up my mail software properly.

What a start!!!

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suggesting words from the dictionary

2001-05-23 Thread dp-lists

I have downloaded the dictionary but can't seem to get the spell checker
to have a guess at a wrongly spelt word. Hitting the Suggest button does
nothing. This makes the spell checker only marginally useful 

Any ideas ?

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Mail Dispatcher problem...

2001-06-05 Thread Mailing Lists

Hi,

I upgraded to the 1.52f version the other day and I've noticed that the
Mail Dispatcher seems to work differently. I have one of my accounts set
up to Invoke automatically at each mail check. Previously, it would
only pop up whenever there was new mail on the server, which is the way
I like it. Now, it pops up at each check, regardless of whether there is
any new mail or not. It also seems to list all new mail as of that day,
even if I've already received the mail. Has anybody else encountered
this problem? Is there a fix or a workaround for it? Am I missing
something or should I report this as a bug? Thanks for any help! :)

  Jonathan

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Re[2]: Mail Dispatcher problem...

2001-06-05 Thread Mailing Lists

Hello Marek,

  Thanks for the info. Do you have any idea when the 1.53 version will
  be released?
  
  Jonathan

 
Tuesday, June 05, 2001, 10:13:15 AM, you wrote:

 On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Mailing Lists wrote:

 I upgraded to the 1.52f version the other day and I've noticed that the
 Mail Dispatcher seems to work differently. I have one of my accounts set
 up to Invoke automatically at each mail check. Previously, it would
 only pop up whenever there was new mail on the server, which is the way
 I like it. Now, it pops up at each check, regardless of whether there is
 any new mail or not. It also seems to list all new mail as of that day,
 even if I've already received the mail. Has anybody else encountered
 this problem? Is there a fix or a workaround for it? Am I missing
 something or should I report this as a bug? Thanks for any help! :)

 please wait for upcoming 1.53 version, this is fixed in it.

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using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts inbox

2002-01-02 Thread sbsi lists

Hi,

I'm a new user to The Bat! and so far I'm really enjoying the program.

I tried using the FAQs for this but couldn't find it there so maybe
you can help.

I'm trying to figure out how I can reply to an email which comes to my
default inbox but reply to that message using another email
account that I have setup.  I know how to do that but I want it to
use the same Template that is used when I send from that account
directly. For instance, I have in my template a
%BCC=[EMAIL PROTECTED] and I want that to work when I pick the
from address I want to send with.  I've tried using both the arrow
pulldown in the from field and also using Options--Active
Account--email@ and picking that account.

Any help on achieving this or am I making sense on what I want done?

  

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Re[2]: using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts inbox

2002-01-02 Thread sbsi lists

Hello Melissa,

Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 6:08:23 PM, you wrote:

MR -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
MR Hash: SHA1

MR On Wednesday, January 02, 2002, at 3:39:53 PM PST, sbsi lists wrote:

 I'm trying to figure out how I can reply to an email which comes to
 my default inbox but reply to that message using another email
 account that I have setup.

MR Hello Jason,

MR At the bottom of the composition window, there is a little section on
MR the status bar that shows the current from address/account.  Just
MR right-click on that section of the status bar, and choose a different
MR account from the context menu that pops up.

MR Melissa

Hi Melissa,

Actually, that does teach me something (i like that shortcut!) however that doesn't do 
what I
want to do.  I was achieving that same thing by going up to OPTIONS-ACTIVE
ACCOUNT- choosing whatever acct -- so, i was figuring that out ok.

However, what I want to have happen is when I pick that specific
account, I'd like the template that it uses for FWD or REPLY or
whatever to be used and replace the one in my inbox which the email
came from.  I'm guessing that this isn't possible??

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Re[2]: using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts inbox

2002-01-03 Thread sbsi lists

Hello Roelof,

Wednesday, January 02, 2002, 8:12:15 PM, you wrote:

RO Hello sbsi,

RO On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:41:26 -0600GMT (3-1-2002, 1:41 +0100GMT, where I
RO live), you wrote:

sl However, what I want to have happen is when I pick that specific
sl account, I'd like the template that it uses for FWD or REPLY or
sl whatever to be used and replace the one in my inbox which the email
sl came from.  I'm guessing that this isn't possible??

RO Why not drag the message you want process to the account with the
RO right config for the replying or whatever you want to do.

RO If you only want to use one account for replying you could create
RO filters to put the incoming mail from all accounts in the inbox of the
RO main account?


Thanks Roelof.  This looks like the best way so far.  I was hoping not
to do this but it's not too big a deal either. The %ACCOUNT deal was a
good idea as well but it didn't do exactly what I wanted.

So, I'm moving all messages to this account and then will be able to
use the template the way I want to use it.  Anyway, appreciate all the
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Re[2]: using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts inbox

2002-01-03 Thread sbsi lists

Hello Eddie,

Thursday, January 03, 2002, 12:23:47 AM, you wrote:

EC Dear Jason,

EC  --- sbsi lists / Donnerstag, 03.01.2002, 01:41:26
EC using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts 
inbox


 Actually, that does teach me something (i like that shortcut!)
 however that doesn't do what I want to do. I was achieving that same
 thing by going up to OPTIONS-ACTIVE ACCOUNT- choosing whatever
 acct -- so, i was figuring that out ok. 

 However, what I want to have happen is when I pick that specific
 account, I'd like the template that it uses for FWD or REPLY or
 whatever to be used and replace the one in my inbox which the email
 came from. I'm guessing that this isn't possible??

EC If I'm not mistaken starting from TB! Version 1.54b19 you can use
EC %IF-Statements. I'm wondering if this could help you setting up your
EC Folder-/Address book Templates.
EC Just a thought: if normal Templates don't work try using QT (Quick
EC Templates).


Thanks Eddie but I haven't upgraded to the 1.54b19 version yet - still
running the 1.53d (i just started using this yesterday!).  But, I'll
look at that and see if it will work.


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Re[2]: using other accounts to reply/fwd with when email is in another accounts inbox

2002-01-03 Thread sbsi lists

Hello Dierk,

Thursday, January 03, 2002, 3:23:42 AM, you wrote:

DH Hello sbsi!

DH On 3 Jan 2002 at 01:41:26 you wrote:

 However, what I want to have happen is when I pick that specific
 account, I'd like the template that it uses for FWD or REPLY or
 whatever to be used and replace the one in my inbox which the email
 came from.  I'm guessing that this isn't possible??

DH Yes, it is. Just change the account *before* you change anything in
DH the message (body).

DH I am quite sure, you have first composed your mail and then tried to
DH change the account as the other way round it does work.


Thanks Dierk but I can't figure this one out.  Where do you change the
account *before* hitting 'reply'??  I've looked all over and I'm sure
it's simple but I can't find a way to do that.  The only way I've seen
to do this is when replying (or new message etc...) to a message and
you can right-mouse click on the status bar and change your account or
going up to OPTIONS and picking it there...or using the FROM field.

Can you tell me where to change the account when in another one?



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imap in next version ?

2002-01-08 Thread dp-lists

I didn't see any discussion of IMAP folder support in the up and coming
version. Should I try not to get excited about it being supported anytime
soon ?

I love TB!, but IMAP support is sorely missing, especially TB! at work
where I need my unread and un-acted on emails to be available via IMAP for
home access. I realise IMAP is a big change for TB!, but I am hoping that
it will eventually be able to be as wonderful with IMAP as it is with POP.

I have tried to use pc-pine and mulberry at work, but I miss TB! too much.
The mail dispatcher is 5% good enough...

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choosing an e-mail address from contacts

2002-01-11 Thread sbsi lists

Hello ,

When adding someone in my address book, I can allow them to have many
different e-mail accounts.  Now, when I choose them when sending a
message, how do I pick one of the alternate addresses?

For instance, in Outlook2k (not 2002!), I used to be able and
right-mouse click on a user and pick a different e-mail account if
they had one.

I do see that I can have the multiple addresses added to the BCC but
then I'd have to remove the one in the TO FIELD (which is the defaulted one
or the first one in the list of e-mail accounts) and then would have
to copy/paste from the other choices there's got to be something
easier/better and I just haven't figured it out yet!!

What's the secret in TB!?
I don't have to create multiple contacts in the address book for each e-mail, do I?

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Re[2]: choosing an e-mail address from contacts

2002-01-11 Thread sbsi lists

Hello Lars,

So, are your directions only good for the 1.54 Beta Version?  I can do
what you're talking about below in 1.53d; however, it doesn't
accomplish what I want... so, I'm *assuming* it has to be in the beta.
Right?

If I'm using 1.53d real version, would it be recommended from all
you *more* experienced TB! users to go ahead and jump in and use the
Beta versions??  Or, just wait until the *true* release comes out? And
if so (ie, using beta vers), anything special that a newbie might need to know about
upgrading to the Beta without making me regret it later!! ;)

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Friday, January 11, 2002, 10:59:36 AM, you wrote:

LG Hi Eddie,
LG On 11 Jan 2002 at 17:13:08 [GMT +0100], you wrote:

LG [...] In the current Beta, there's a mechanism to select one of the
LG alternate addresses.

EC And how to select ??

LG When composing a message, open the address selection window with the
LG little vcard icon in one of the recipients lines. Now you can right
LG click a contact and choose from a list via 'Add address -'.


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Re[2]: choosing an e-mail address from contacts

2002-01-11 Thread sbsi lists

Hi Jan,

Actually, that's a cool trick...didn't know that either! However, that
just goes thru other peoples names, and I want to have 1 person in my
address book but with multiple e-mail accounts attached to it and be
able to choose *easily* the other e-mail accounts related to that 1
person.

I saw the 1.54 beta today and it does more what I want...so, that's
probably what I'll try is just update to the beta.


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JR Hello sbsi.

JR At 9:18 AM on Friday, January 11, 2002 you wrote the
JR following about [choosing an e-mail address from
JR contacts]

sbsi When adding someone in my address book, I can
sbsi allow them to have many different e-mail
sbsi accounts. Now, when I choose them when sending
sbsi message, how do I pick one of the alternate
sbsi addresses? [...]

JR   How about starting the name  then using CTRL+ to
JR   go thru all the variations in your AB?

JR   You will need to select some options.

JR ,- [setting steps]
| TB! menu - Options - Preferences - System
JR | select complete automatically address/subject entry
JR | fields complete address from your selection
JR '-


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Re[2]: Memo function (was: Changing received message subject)

2002-01-14 Thread sbsi lists

Hi Dwight,

I noticed this same thing a couple of days ago and almost e-mailed the
list last night when this thread started up... but then didn't because
I figured this was normal behavior.

However, I would really like it to change all my folders without me
having to go in and edit them... and when I exited/restarted the only
folders that had the memo field were the original ones that I had
already edited.  So, it worked for you but not me!! (bummer!)

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Monday, January 14, 2002, 12:43:30 AM, you wrote:

DAC That would seem to be a bug. You can add the memo column to a folder
DAC view, but it didn't then get added to other folder's folder view in
DAC the same account. But then I exited and restarted and now all my
DAC folder view windows in all accounts include the memo column. This is a
DAC good thing.


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No Kaspersky AntiVirus Plug-in with The Bat! v3.0?

2004-09-03 Thread lists . 01
All,

   I just upgraded to The Bat! v3.0, and I just discovered that this
   new version does not include an AntiVirus plugin for Kaspersky
   AntiVirus. All previous versions of The Bat! have included this. I
   can seem to find no information about this in the RIT Labs support
   forums. This is pretty important for me, as some of my mail
   accounts do not Isle the standard port 110 and therefore are
   probably no longer getting checked for viruses. I also own a
   registered version of Zone Labs Security Suite. That product
   includes Computer Associates E-Trust AntiVirus. It would be great
   if there was a plugin for that too. Any ideas? Thanks!

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Re: Just curious why ....

2001-12-08 Thread Nils Haag (mailing lists)

Hello Marc, hi list,
 
On Friday, December 07, 2001 'Marc van Breemen' wrote:

 Can I rely on RitLabs that they introduce The Bat version 2 in the
 very near future?

I don't belive it will be finished within the next three or four
months. but really nobody knows that exactly. Probably even ritlabs
doesn't know.

 They are building it for more than two years
 now. Still no beta to see, that is not really promising. 
[...]
 Can anybody explain me why RitLabs introduces new features (like common
 folders) in an 'old' version (version 1.xx) when they are very (I hope) busy
 with finishing (I hope) version 2.? If I were them I put all my
 effort in completing version 2 and, besides solving the serious bugs,
 quit developing version 1. Why not? Tell me, why not?

Why is everyone so focused to the version 2? If a program works well
and solves all my problems it can be a version 0.1, version 0.9 or
10,000. And if I don't like a program and they call it version 2000
XL, it won't become better!
So be happy about a great mail-client in version 1.xx!


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Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?

2002-01-07 Thread Smart Business Lists

Jon,

JL For those who have made the shift, what are the biggest benefits you have
JL noticed?

I switched finally just a few days ago because of problems with
Outlook 2002 receiving various attachment extensions, stripping LF's
in received messages, and adding LF's in sent messages.  TB leaves my
messages alone.

I find TB's filters and macro's to be much easier to use and for me
more powerful.

I like reducing to the tray icon.

I think TB is at least equal to or better than Outlook for speed and
handling my volume of mail (200-300 messages per day - 1.3 GB of
Outlook pst's)

TB is better for searching.

TB does not lock up on certain MIME certs the way Outlook did.

JL What is the biggest downside you have found?

Not having my calendar.


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Re[2]: choosing an e-mail address from contacts

2002-01-12 Thread Smart Business Lists

Jan

Maybe it is only in Beta/27.

I started at 27 so I don't know about 26.  When I highlight a name in the address
book that has multiples then I can right click and see Add address
in the menu.  If I mouseover Add address then to the right I see
another pulldown with all the emails of that user.  I select the one I
want and it moves into the respective To, cc, or bcc list.


Terry Fritts
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Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195

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JR   When I follow your instructions, nothing happens. Can
JR   you please be a bit more specific, i.e. where am I
JR   when I right click a contact, etc. If I do that, I
JR   get ALT+1, ALT+2, etc.



JR ,- [These are the steps I took]
JR | clicked new msg icon
JR | clicked card icon to the right of the TO: line
JR | searched for name w 2 entries
JR | right clicked in the AB list (no result)
JR | added the name to the TO: side
JR | right clicked in the right column (no result)
JR | entered name in msg
JR | right clicked on name  TO: (no results)
JR '-

JR   What am I missing?


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Re: HTML based emails

2002-01-13 Thread Smart Business Lists

Colin

It will display images that are sent inline, ie with the message.  Images
that are remote will be represented via placeholders.

If you want to see the html rendered properly you can easily open the
page via your browser.

IMHO this is most defintely a good thing.

Terry Fritts
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Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195

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CG Bat looks good except that when receiving emails with HTML included
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CG incoming email as being blank.

CG Is this intentional or am I missing something?


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Re: OE mail export and mail folders

2002-01-19 Thread Smart Business Lists


ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/utilities/wab2ldif.exe

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Attachment size

2002-01-24 Thread Smart Business Lists

Is there a way to view attachment size in the message list?

Terry Fritts
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Re: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

2002-01-24 Thread Smart Business Lists

David

At first I wondered about the text editor but I have grown to really
like it a lot.  That's mainly because of the following:

  1 I finally understood that formatting began where I started typing
  2 I discovered ALT+l to reformat my paragraphs
  3 I turned on Auto Spell Checker
  4 the custom dictionary is very nice
  5 I discovered replying quoted text using F4

Certainly everyone's needs are different and every editor is not the
right tool for every job.  But theBat!'s little editor has continued
to please me again and again.

I hope you find the same thing.

Terry Fritts
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Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195

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DCDC being able to auto reformat if I delete/rewrite something.


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Server Timeouts

2002-05-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

Hello tbudl,

Is it possible to increase the default timeouts for mailservers within
TB? I connect to a mail server than can sometimes take a while to
respond, causing TB to timeout the connection and emit an Unwanted
Bleep!

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Re: Turn off the bleeping beep

2002-05-15 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, 11:31:55 PM, Yuki Taga wrote:

 I have two accounts, and TB is set to check them both at all times.

 For some reason, I'm intermittently getting a failure to connect on
 the secondary account.  I never get it on the primary account (this
 one).

I am having the same problem, then, but I have been blaming my ISP,
which is supposed to be having some mail problems at the moment.

Have you tried accessing the same mail accounts from different
software (I use Popcorn when I am travelling, as I can fit it on a USB
Flash Disk), or by using the Despatch Centre?  This might indicate
whether it is a ISP or software problem.

I posted a question about extending the timeouts that TB uses, which
would be the other way round this problem.

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Re: TB phones home, sends spam?

2002-05-15 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, 3:57:19 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 A  common one is Undisclosed.Recipients@server name. I get about 7
 of  those  a day. I'm guessing depending on the mail server if you set
 it to reject anything sent directly to the server name, it should drop
 those  mails.  After  all...  why would legitimate contacts be sending
 email  to  your  server name, instead of your domain name?

I have a Selective Download filter that kills all messages addressed
to the server name (the filter is '@server.name'), and this gets rid
of a lot of spam.



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Re: odd emails

2002-05-16 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, May 16, 2002, 10:48:37 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 [OT] Where did you get the XP theme from?  I'm looking for one just
 like that ;) [/OT]

It is built into Windows XP.  Right-click on the desktop to get the
display properties, and then select the Appearance tab.  The Windows
and Buttons style should be Windows XP Style, and the you have three
choices of colour scheme - Silver, Blue (default) and Olive Green.

Silver is nice, isn't it!

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SpamCop Encoding problem

2002-05-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

Hello tbudl,

Using the filter script posted by Marck last week, I have set up
filter to automatically send spam messages to SpamCop as an
attachment. The file sent is called Export.txt, and is a Unix Mailbox
file. When I view this within TB or email it to myself it looks fine.
However, when I send it to SpamCop I get it back with a message saying
that Spamcop encountered problems. The returned message looks like
this:

-
SpamCop encountered errors while saving spam for processing:
SpamCop could not find your spam message in this email:

[snip most of headers]

Subject: Message Submission
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--951085329DEB656

951085329DEB656
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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951085329DEB656
Content-Type: text/plain; name=export.txt
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=export.txt

RnJvbSBuZml5Z2lub2pAYWRpbi5iZSAgIFNhdCBNYXkgMTggMTM6Mzg6MjQgMjAwMgpSZXR1cm4t
UGF0aDogPG5maXlnaW5vakBhZGluLmJlPgpSZWNlaXZlZDogZnJvbSBjcG14MC5kaXJjb24ubmV0
ICgxOTUuMTU3LjcuNDEpIGJ5IHN0b3JhZ2UtMi5uZXRzY2FsaWJ1ci5pdCAoNS41LjA0MykKICAg
[snip]


What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Undelivered mail

2002-05-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Saturday, May 18, 2002, 1:53:22 PM, Fré van Limpt wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: maildir delivery failed: error
writing message:Disc quota exceeded

 Does this mean that I have exceeded an amount of disk space on
 The Bat!'s mail server attributed to me?

I think it means that the mailbox of the person you are sending the
message to is full, and will not accept more mail.


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Re: SpamCop Encoding problem

2002-05-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Saturday, May 18, 2002, 2:33:22 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 What am I doing wrong?

 Using the export.txt as an attachment.

Ah!  That how was I originally set it up, but Spamcop confused me by
saying they wanted the message as an attachment.

I will change it now, and try it out on the next spam message I get
(which should be along any minute!)

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Re: SpamCop Encoding problem

2002-05-19 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, May 19, 2002, 7:49:02 AM, Blarp wrote:

 I get the same errors and it doesn't matter how I send the e-mail in.
 The attachment process was working just fine with SC up until a few
 days ago. Now it's not. I've tried with Outlook Express and The Bat.

Quoting the spam in the message seems to work fine, using Marck's
template example.  This copies the original message to a Unix Mailbox
File, and then inserts the contents of the file back into the message
to SC.

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Re: Archives?

2002-05-19 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, May 19, 2002, 6:22:27 PM, Chris Montgomery wrote:

 Actually, I just went to the archives again, clicked on the link for Date
 Index, and then continued clicking on the Earlier Messages links until there
 were no more links to go to earlier messages. Scrolling down the page, the
 earliest message was dated May 5th, 2002. Surely there's more somewhere?

The same happens with me using the [Earlier] link. If you search by
keyword, however, the results will include messages from the whole
archive, and not just the recent past.

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Re: SpamCop Encoding problem

2002-05-19 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, May 19, 2002, 6:39:26 PM, Blarp wrote:

 Can you or someone send me the template example? I just joined the
 list a few days ago and didn't see it.

Here is the content of the template:

 %SUBJECT=Spam: %OSUBJ
 %PUT=C:\TEMP\export.txt

The first line puts Spam: in front of the original subject (this
makes no difference to SC, but makes it easier for me to ID the
message).  The second line inserts the Unix Mailbox File export.txt
into the message.

All this in put together in a filter which Marck posted a couple of
weeks ago. This is activated by Ctrl-Alt-S and saves the contents of
the message to export.txt, puts the message into my Spam folder, and
creates a message to SC with the text of the Spam inserted using the
above template.


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Re: SpamCop Encoding problem

2002-05-19 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, May 19, 2002, 6:55:25 PM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote:

Replying to my own message:

 %SUBJECT=Spam: %OSUBJ
 %PUT=C:\TEMP\export.txt

This seems to work most of the time, but it just failed on a spam
message I was forwarding, as it inserted the Base64 encoding into the
message (it was an HTML message) and not the text.  So, in the message
appeared:

[snip]
 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
 Importance: Normal
 
 --=_NextPart_000_00A7_24B07B7A.D5103D30
 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
 
 
 PGh0bWw+PGJvZHk+PGRpdj48Zm9udCBmYWNlPSJBcmlhbCIgc2l6ZT0iMiI+
 VGhpcyBtZXNzYWdlIGlzIHNlbnQgdG8gb3VyIHN1YnNjcmliZXJzIG9ubHku
[snip]

and not the text.  I could not even get the text to appear by viewing
the source of the original message (F9) as this also showed the
encoding.  I ended up having to open the Message.htm file in IE and
viewing the source, and pasting it back into the massage in TB.

Is this something to so with my settings in TB?


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Re: Manual Filter?

2002-05-19 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, May 19, 2002, 9:14:49 PM, Greg Strong wrote:

 I just did with it indicated as an active rule, and it did NOT work.
 So something must be wrong with my read filter.

I have not tried the read filter, but a problem I can foresee is that
setting the filter as manual only means that you need a way of
triggering it. If you use Re-filter Messages, then this will also
apply the incoming filters, although maybe this will also apply the
read filter? One solution would be to set a Hot Key for the read
filter, so that you can trigger it manually using the keyboard.

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Re: filtering on multiple headers

2002-05-20 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Monday, May 20, 2002, 2:02:57 AM, Michael L. Cusac wrote:

 I thought I could do something like specify mail which does not
 match (Received:\s.*?){3} in the kludges, but apparently TB! only
 looks in the fields of the headers.  Useing 'all' instead of 'kludges'
 doesn't seem to work either.  Is there any way to filter using the raw
 text (source) of the mails, or better yet in the raw header portion?

This is testing my knowledge of Regex to the limits, but I think that
Regex works on a line by line basis. Your filter will look for the phrase
'Received:' in one line (a line being a string terminated by a line
break), which won't match as you want it to.

I am not sure what the solution is.  If the mail is being sent direct
to GMX, then you could try to search for messages that have a received
line which does not include GMX.

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Re: filtering on multiple headers

2002-05-20 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Monday, May 20, 2002, 10:27:39 AM, Michael L. Cusac wrote:

 In general, one RegEx can capture more than one line at a time, but
 after having tried several ideas I believe you're right that TB!'s
 RegEx  will only look at one line at a time.  It would be nice
 to be able to toggle it to handle multiple lines, but for all I know
 that would create some kind of programming nightmare for the
 developers, so I can't really complain.

Different brands of Regex handle multiple lines in different ways,
or so I have learnt from Jeffrey Friedl and Mastering Regular
Expressions (O'Reilly).  This is a good read if you want to know more
about RegEx.  There is also a free guide to Regex on Perldoc.com
(search for Perlretut)


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Re: About 'To:'

2002-05-21 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 10:03:12 AM, Han's wrote:

 To make it confidence, is it possible if The BAT! sends a lot of
 e-mail address in one way without through 'CC' or 'BCC' but only use
 'TO' path and only the aim customer's e-mail address will show up in
 that 'TO' path ?

From the Help file:

 If you want to send a standard message to a group of people, yet
 have the message custom written to every person in the group as if
 they were the only recipient, you can use The Bat!'s mass-mailing
 features.

 Create a Quick Template containing the text of the message and use
 template macros to create personalised inserts for the message (like
 first names in greetings, etc.). In the Quick Template editor, tick
 the Use for new messages / Mass mailing box.

 In the address book, create a group for the intended recipients for
 this mass mailing (if you don't already have one).

 Once you have at least one mass-mailing quick template defined, the
 Address Book contains a couple of new menu entries: New message
 using template and Mass mailing using template. Each of these menu
 options leads to a list of available mass-mailing quick templates.

 First select your recipient group. Then select the option you want
 (New message or Mass mailing) and that's it - all done!


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Focus on starting TB

2002-05-23 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

Hello tbudl,

I have been having occasional problems with TB when I first start it.
The main program window will not take focus, so although the Window is
there, I cannot do anything with it. Strangely, I can right click and
bring up the context menu, but again can get no further. The Message
Ticker works, and double-clicking brings up the folder view, but I
cannot select messages - buttons will pop out when the mouse travels
over them, but cannot be clicked.

I have checked for the obvious things - there are no out of view TB
windows that have taken the focus (none that I can find anyway) and
Alt-Tab does not bring up any windows that I could not see. When this
happens, the only solution seems to be to close down TB and start it
again.

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Re: symultaneus pop3 check

2002-05-25 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Saturday, May 25, 2002, 4:44:33 AM, Ricardo M. Reyes wrote:

 If I check again the failed one, it goes ok.

 It seems to fail when attempting to connect simultaneously to the same
 server, although I don't know if it's a problem at TB or softhome.net.

 Anyone had the same problem?

Yes, all the time. I was tempted to blame TB, but I think it is the
ISP, as I have tried logging onto the servers using Popcorn and I get
the same problem. I think that the cause is load on the ISP's servers.
The message means that the connection timed out.

It would be good if there could be a way of extending the timeout
period in TB.  I think that I would have had this problem in Outlook,
but since the timeout was 1 minute, it was rarely a problem.


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Re: Filtering using AND

2002-05-26 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, May 26, 2002, 8:44:12 PM, Jon Lawrance wrote:

 How do I set up the AND statement in the filters?

On the first tab of the filter (the Rule tab), click on [Add]. This
adds an additional line to your filter, which is used an as AND
statement. The Alternate tab allows you to define OR statements

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Re: 1.60m - State of the art?

2002-05-31 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Friday, May 31, 2002, 1:51:25 AM, Bill Blinn, Technology Editor wrote:

 Sorry Andrea and Marck -- I just don't remember which steps I took or
 in which order. I do remember that it wasn't neat or easy.

I recently imported my address book from Outlook into TB. I exported
from Outlook to a CSV file, which I then edited in Excel to get rid of
most of the fields - I made sure I was only importing the fields that
I wanted, not all the ones that Outlook wanted to transfer. The
process went fine, although I only imported names and email addresses,
as I still use Outlook as my PIM.

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Re: mid: links [was Re: Drafts]

2002-06-01 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Saturday, June 1, 2002, 12:34:39 AM, Adam wrote:

 I tried clicking on that mid link.  But nothing happened. Does
 something happen for you?

By click, read double-click, at least on my PC.  If TB cannot find the
message, it pops up a dialog asking where it should look, and if it
cannot then find the message, it displays a message saying so.


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Re: How does one remove the [#] from replies?

2002-06-01 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Saturday, June 1, 2002, 1:59:37 PM, Jack Murphy, III wrote:

   I'm using the Bat! version 1.53t.  I have no intentions of
 downgrading to 1.60 until it becomes more stable and less buggy.
 Anyway, I love the Bat!, but there's one thing that majorly annoys
 me.  Is there any possible way of removing the [#] after Re when
 replying to a message?  I.e. Re[2]: Whatever, etc.  Any help with
 this matter would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you!

In version 1.60m, you need to go into account properties, templates,
reply, and uncheck Use Reply numbers in subject line.  I don't know
if this is the same in 1.53t.

You can also use the macro SINGLERE to turn it off in a template.


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Re: Signature stripping

2002-06-02 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, June 2, 2002, 2:47:33 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 No ... it's called style I'm using dot-slash-slash as an Ascii Art
 'M'. See it now?

 - --
 Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator

What has happened to your sig. delimiter?  It should be -- 
shouldn't it? I have noticed the same on a few other sigs on the list
- is this a new fashion, or is something happening to them at my end?

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Re: Signature stripping

2002-06-02 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, June 2, 2002, 3:33:57 PM, Jernej Simoni wrote:

 Didn't you read Marck's message? He's using PGP, and it always escapes
 lines starting with dash by adding a dash and a space.

Obviously I did not read it closely enough... :-)

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Re: updating Bat attachment locations when chaning HD folders?

2002-06-03 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Monday, June 3, 2002, 2:34:47 AM, Charlie Laidlaw wrote:

 is there some macro or something that would at least automagically do
 a text-insert of the name  extension of any attachments onto the end
 of the message?

I don't know about the first part, but this is a QT I use for
inserting attachment names:

=
Attachment(s): %ATTACHMENTS
**All attachments virus-checked before sending**
=

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Re: Attaching Attachments

2002-06-04 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Tuesday, June 4, 2002, 10:26:06 AM, Eddie Castelli wrote:

 When replying to a eMail that has Attachments (1-5 or more files) -
 how to include the Attachments to return it to the Sender?

 BTW - the reply should be without Quotes.

I guess the easiest way would be to forward the message (and change
the forward template to suite the quoting style you want).  Replying
does not send back the original attachments.

It is interesting how different mail clients handle attachments in
replies.  Lotus Notes used to send back the original attachments,
which was particularly odd since you could not edit and send back an
attachment without detaching it and reattaching it after the changes
have been made and saved.


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Re: Menu Navigator (was: Server settings?)

2002-06-04 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Tuesday, June 4, 2002, 5:36:07 PM, Thomas F wrote:

 Where (full path)? I didn't find it, even using ther Menu Navigator
 (which I do like).

It's no good; I have to ask - what is the Menu Navigator?  As I run
Windows XP, I have never seen it.  Am I missing anything?

In answer to your question, have a look at Options|Preferences|General
and look at the bottom tick-box.

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Re: Reading calender data from a .pst-file

2002-06-04 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Tuesday, June 4, 2002, 6:00:44 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 I thought it did... or at least it asks you once when the system is
 first changed that changes have been made that affect the way your
 system works.  Do you wish to restore them?... then never get asked
 again ;) Or something like that :)

You can determine these settings in Outlook by going to Tools|Options
and going to the Other tab. In the General section there is a tickbox
for making Outlook the default program for Email, Calendar and
Contacts.

There is also the setting in IE under Tools|Internet Options and the
Programs tab, where you can set these options one by one. I don't know
how these two locations interact, if at all.

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Re: Reading calender data from a .pst-file

2002-06-05 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, 8:49:34 AM, Marcus Ohlström wrote:

 Not here, all I see under the General section of the Other tab is
 Empty the Deleted Items folder upon exit and a Advanced Options
 Nothing about setting Outlook to default mail client or not. And yes,
 I have checked every option under the Advanced Options... as well,
 nothing there either.

What version of Outlook are you running?  It certainly appears in
Outlook 2002, but not, I think, in previous versions.  The way round
it in previous versions is to change the mode of Outlook to No Email,
if it is currently in Internet Email mode.  (Tools|Options|Mail
Delivery and click Reconfigure Mail Support)

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Re: First 2 lines of message does not display

2002-06-06 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 6, 2002, 8:52:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I find that if I mime-formard the original message to myself, save the
 attachment, then import it, I can see the first paragraph.

 Does anyone have any idea why I am not seeing the first paragraph in
 the ORIGINAL message with the abbreviated headers? i.e. why the first
 paragraph is displayed ONLY when the full header (RCF-822 headers) is
 on?

I think that the why is the easy part - for some reason, TB thinks
that the first paragraph is part of the header, and is not displaying
it.  TB and other email software identifies the end of the header and
the start of the message text by an empty line (a line which only has
a new line character on it.

Perhaps, as I think that some others have mentioned, there is a space
on the blank lines.  IIRC, TB will strip surplus spaces when it is
reformatting messages, so maybe the message is being reformatted and
the spaces stripped at some point in the process of forwarding the
message, saving the attachment, and re-importing.  Other than that, I
don't have a clue.

Do you have MS Word or a similar program installed?  Display the
message with the RCF-822 headers displayed, and then copy all of the
text and paste it to a blank document in Word.  If Word does not show
non-printing characters (tabs, spaces, etc) by default enable this by
going to Tools|Options|View and in the Formatting Marks section,
select [ALL].  Then check the message, and see if there is anything
other than just a paragraph mark on the lines between the Subject:
line in the headers, and the first paragraph.

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Re: Removing mail list prefixes

2002-06-09 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, June 9, 2002, 2:00:41 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

   Also the tech list group are quite helpful with regexp[s]
there is one book -- name escapes me @ the moment --
   that is an excellent tutorial.

The book I have, which I have found very useful, is Mastering Regular
Expressions, by Jeffrey E.F. Friedl, and published by O'Reilly (ISBN
1565922573).

There is also a web-guide to Regex at 
http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6.1/pod/perlretut.html

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Re: Additional e-mail folders online.

2002-06-10 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Monday, June 10, 2002, 7:15:19 PM, Joseph N. wrote:

 I don't have an answer for you, but I'm intrigued by the setup.  Would
 you mind sharing the identity of your ISP?  Can you send from the
 ISP's program, i.e., if you were on the road and at another person's
 computer?

The alternative is one of the very small email clients such as Popcorn
(about 250K, which runs from a floppy disk, and will allow you to
access your pop mailboxes directly).  Sending depends what
restrictions your ISP has on relaying mail.

(Popcorn has vanished from the developers website [www.ultrafunk.com]
after they stopped development but it may still be available from
Tucows, etc.  It is also small enough to email!)

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 10:56:10 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 A faint bell is ringing (unlike when you receive mail groan). I'm
 remembering this happening to someone and it turning out to be related
 to a firewall. Are you running one? If you're running ZoneAlarm - get
 it out of there! Put in one that works without interfering with other
 software. If it's not ZA, try disabling it for a bit and see if your
 beeps go.

It was discussed in a thread during May.  Try searching for the thread
called Turn off the bleeping beep in the TBUDL Archives.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 11:58:06 AM, DG Raftery Sr. wrote:

 Have you tried going into Windows Sounds and Multimedia under the Control
 Panel and disabling Window's sounds, most notably ASTERISK, DEFAULT BEEP
 and PROGRAM ERROR?

 Try it and see if that helps. Worked here and took me about 45 minutes to
 determine what the heck was beeping at me all the time.

I am not having these problems at the moment, fortunately, but I would
not be happy about turning off system sounds, as they may be trying to
tell me about something I need to know!

I think from the last discussion that one of the possible causes is a
filter producing an error. There was a suggestion that this caused the
sound, although I have been unable to reproduce this.


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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 6:16:16 PM, Blarp wrote:

 FWIW, I am running a firewall (Tiny Personal) and it's never caused
 problems with apps before. There are no filters in place that delete
 messages. It is definitely the Windows Stop or error sound (thunk).

The normal mail errors are Question sounds - I hear them regularly
during the day, because my ISP's mail servers often respond slower
than TB's time out.  You cannot adjust the timeout.

 Even if I could just change the sound specifically for The Bat
 (somewhat like how Lotus Organizer allows you to), that would be a
 step in the right direction since it's always played at least once
 during a Fetch All and usually 2 or 3 times.

You could submit it as a bug - there is obviously something wrong, so
TB should tell you want it is. Maybe one of the developers will know
what events generate these warnings. The URL of the Bug Report site is
at the bottom of this message.

Are you sure that it is TB generating the sound, and not some other
application that TB is affecting?

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Re: Watch thread?

2002-06-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Friday, June 14, 2002, 8:57:35 AM, Ben Kennish wrote:

 OK campaign started.  Anyone who wants a watch thread feature in
 TB!, reply with Aye!

What would a watch thread feature do?  I used to use the Watch
Thread feature in Agent (when I had time to look at newsgroups), but
this was in relation to automatically downloading messages of threads
I was interested in, rather than just the headers.  In the case of TB,
I download all the messages anyway.

If we are talking about some additional functionality to the existing
filters (perhaps the ability to apply colour groups to threads via the
existing Shft-Ctrl-F Create Filter dialogue) then I would find it
useful.

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The Register - First JPEG virus not a threat

2002-06-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

Hello tbudl,

Following the discussion earlier this week about whether .jpg files
could carry a viral payload, the following article has appeared!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/25718.html

:-0

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Re: Mail Ticker Not Working

2002-06-15 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Saturday, June 15, 2002, 8:05:55 AM, Ben Kennish wrote:

 If I set the Ticker to be on Always in the settings,I can see it.
 It's just automatically does not work as the MailTicker does not
 open when I have new mail (even though the Inbox folder is set to
 Show unread messages on MailTicker

 Any ideas?

It sounds more like a problem with the display criteria for the
ticker. If you right-click on it (you will need to set it to display
Always first, you will see a menu item for Messages. Go to that, and
check that it should be displaying all message types, and make sure
that the time limits are not set so short that the Ticker never
appears.

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Re: Bug?

2002-06-15 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Saturday, June 15, 2002, 6:48:07 AM, Chill wrote:

 Someone explains me, that she just can't write mails with The Bat!
 1.60m or 1.60q. When she clics in the TO field, The Bat! just goes
 down without any error messages. She is on Windows XP.

It is a corrupted address history file.  The best way to solve the
problem is to go to Options|Preferences and the System tab.  Go to the
Autocomplete section, and either turn off autocompletion or set it to
use the Default or All addressbooks.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat

2002-06-16 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, June 16, 2002, 5:34:55 PM, Carlo Revelli wrote:

 Do you know if there is a way to create a filter with a huge list
 of domain names (and not only with e-mail addresses)? How?

Not using the regular Inbox filters.  You can load a file for
Selective Download filtering, but I think that this would be a very
slow way of sorting out spam.

Is the spam domain list is the best approach? Spammers change the
email addresses and domains regularly, so most of the domains listed
will no longer be used, and just slow your filters down. I rely on a
small number of rules to delete 90% of the spam I get - I am confident
enough of them to use them as Kill rules in a Selective Download
filter, although I use an Ignore filter to hold suspicious messages.
Those that get through I send to Spamcop, and adjust my filters if
required.

I am sure you can guess the kind if words to filter on - my kill
filter includes:

btamail.net.cn
2002 Gov Grants
spinformillions
email-4-prizes.com
Viagra

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Re: Can Not Send Mail!!

2002-06-23 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 3:54:06 PM, Ravi Joshi wrote:

 Edit Message - Recipients Address
 Message has not been sent. Server reply Error: Message content rejected.
[...]
 The first time I tried to send this message to the list I received a
 response I was not recognized as a member...so I had to re-subscribe!

It sounds like your account properties may be corrupted.  Have a look
at Account Properties, and check that you have the correct User Name
and Password in the SMTP Server settings, and that you are using the
correct SMTP server address.

One reason the TBUDL list may be rejecting your messages is that your email
address appears different - that is, the messages are being sent with a From:
or Reply-To: address that is different from the ones you originally
subscribed using.

Have you stopped receiving any mail, or just mail from TBUDL?  Can you
collect mail from TBUDL in Outlook?  Check your POP3 server settings
as well.

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Re: Can Not Send Mail!!

2002-06-23 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 3:54:06 PM, Ravi Joshi wrote:

 Edit Message - Recipients Address
 Message has not been sent. Server reply Error: Message content rejected.

[I am sending this to the list and via PM]

Was all of this in the error message?  Where was the error message?
In the TB Account Log?  I don't understand the first line of the
message - was this part of the error message?

On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 11:10:27 PM, Ravi Joshi wrote:

 As far as I can tell my FROM 7 REPLY TO are the same, however I was
 messing around ( a couple of weeks ago) with a template for the AVG
 plugin...don't know if this has anything to do with it but when I was
 sending test messages I would receive an error message indicating that
 the message was undeliverable but in the error it had changed my [sender] email
 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]!

I still think that this sounds like an account configuration problem.
For some reason, the mail server does not like the mail being sent
from TB - when you create a message, and then view the headers
(Ctrl-Shft-K) when the message is in the Outbook, are the From:
Reply-To: and To: headers what they should be?

With the messages from TBUDL, you cannot receive messages from OE or
Becky?  This suggests that the email address that you subscribed from
is not the one that you are checking with your mail clients.  Did you
get any of the confirmation emails back from the Listar address when
you subscribed to the list?

Perhaps your current account in TB is corrupted in some way.  Try
creating a new Account in TB, and re-enter all of the server details
and email addresses from scratch.  Do not try to import the data -
start again.

Other than this, I don't know what the problem is.  Hope this helps.

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Re: Can Not Send Mail

2002-06-23 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 11:10:27 PM, Ravi Joshi wrote:

 Still cannot send any mail from TB! but can do so with OE and Becky. I
 have checked my Account settings, I have uninstalled and re-installed
 twice and I have installed a backup version of 1.60q. Still nothing
 works ; (.

Well, messages sent to your email address are bouncing, which is why
you are getting nothing from the list:

 The Postfix program
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host smtp.cogeco.ca[216.221.81.25] said: 552 Error:
 Message content rejected

552 errors sometimes mean that the mailbox is full.  You need to log
onto your mailbox (try using the Message Despatcher in TB) and see if
there are any messages in there, and if there are, delete them.


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Re: MD5 sum for 1.60q *.exe

2002-06-24 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Monday, June 24, 2002, 1:58:54 PM, Robert Golovniov wrote:

 What,  then,  can  be  the  reasons  of such a strange behaviour of my
 firewall?

Does the firewall keep track of applications to monitor for Trojans?
What it might be warning you is that the checksum of the original
version of TB is not the same as the current one.  I get similar
behaviour from BlackICE after installing a new TB EXE file - BlackICE
will not let it run or communicate with the internal until I give it
permission, and will keep doing so until I update the application
checksum database that BlackICE maintains.

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Re: Mail Ticker properties

2002-06-26 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 6:33:21 PM, Joseph N. wrote:

 I've 'lost' the place where I can set how long the mail ticker will
 wait until displaying and then how long it will keep displaying.
 Where are those settings located??

Right-click on the ticker when it is on the screen (you may need to
set it to display all the time), and you will find the time settings
under Messages|Age Limits.

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Re: Can Not Send Mail

2002-06-26 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 7:56:52 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 12. When TBUDL tries to send messages to me they are apparently
 bouncing. I have now set up through MRB (and am glad to be back!).

 That truly sounds like a configuration error on their end.  For
 somebody else to get bounces as well?

I tried sending a message to Ravi by PM and via the list at the
weekend, and the mail to the Cogeco account bounced, with the same
message.

Interestingly, I just tried again, with a message sent via TB, and one
sent via my ISP's webmail service (so avoiding the use of TB).  The
message sent via TB bounced.  The one sent via webmail has not (yet).
This would suggest that the Cogeco servers do not like something about
messages sent via TB!

Very strange.  Perhaps Ravi could confirm whether he got a message
from me via PM?

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Re: Can Not Send Mail

2002-06-26 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 8:17:59 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote:

 I'd  find  it  highly  unusual  for  an  ISP  to  block based on email
 client...  in  fact  highly  stupid. Not saying impossible, but highly
 unlikely.

I agree, so it will be interesting to see whether Ravi got the message
that I did not send using TB. Messages are also bouncing when they are
sent from TBUDL - does this run using TB?

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Re: Can Not Send Mail

2002-06-26 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 10:54:19 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

 I'm not sure about the reason behind this, but it surely looks like
 somebody down there doesn't like The Bat!

That is outrageous! This also explains why messages from TBUDL were
bouncing, because most people posting are using TB and therefore have
the offending mail headers.

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Re: Can Not Send Mail

2002-06-27 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 27, 2002, 12:14:59 PM, John Phillips wrote:

 What logical reason would they have for their bouncing of mail withX-Mailer
 Bat!?

I cannot think of many.  One possibility is that they had a lot of
problems with spam from someone using TB (heaven forbid!), the TB was
the only consistent thing to filter on.  Perhaps it is accidental -
the filter might look for an ! in the x-mailer: field.  Or perhaps they are
sponsored by MS!

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Re: GMT Time Stamp

2002-06-27 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 27, 2002, 7:37:28 PM, Thomas F wrote:

 Thanks. I can connect now and get the familiar blank page when IE says
 done. This time, the last lines were:

 TR id='text37' style='display:none'TD VALIGN=TOP WIDTH='34'nbsp;/TD
 TD VALIGN=TOP WIDTH='30'INPUT TYPE='Button'  VA

 You see, it breaks up in the middle of the line.

I don't know if this is connected, but there are reports about a BT
HTTP server problem causing difficulties for DSL users trying to
access websites and send email in some parts of London and the South
East (UK). The symptoms seem to be very similar.

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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:11:04 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:

 Hello Marck,

 Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 4:56:02 AM, you wrote :


MDP We just said that in a long thread discussing the plug-in thesis. The
MDP middle man approach slows down *all* mail while plug-ins are only
MDP called when there is an attachment worth looking at.

MDP Please read the recent thread exploring these issue in depth under the
MDP topic OT: Antivirus software review.

 Sorry, new to the list.



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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 4:07:44 PM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote:

 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:11:04 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:

Whoops! I fell asleep at the keyboard (not a comment on my interest in
the messages) and managed to send an email when my fingers slid down
the keys! I knew I had sent something, but could not find it until it
appeared here!

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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 6:07:27 PM, Thomas F wrote:

 Back to serious mode, what could you have done if you had found out
 which message it was?

Nothing, but I woke up to see the NAV Outgoing Email scanning window
disappearing, so I knew I had sent something, but I did not know what
or to who.  I suppose I was lucky just to have sent a blank message to
the list.

Antidote emails sound very like an urban legend, although if you are
running Exchange server, it is possible to recall messages from within
the network.


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Re: Selective Downloads - Kill Filter

2002-07-21 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, July 21, 2002, 7:21:29 PM, Douglas Hinds wrote:

 Use the Mail Dispatcher. Any message containing the string and
 string location you indicated for selective download will have the
 Receive box unchecked and (if you've set delete from server
 immediately) will have the Delete box checked.

Yes, I use the Mail Dispatcher in this way, as I have a filter to hold
mail on the server as well as the one to delete mail, so I review
the server list once a day. Not many spam messages get though, and those
that do go to SpamCop and I amend the filters as necessary.

 That is the way selective download filters work.

And very effectively, too.  What I would like is an addition in the
log file for the account to say that x messages were deleted without
downloading - at the moment, it only tells me the number of messages
on the server, the number of new ones, and the number downloaded.  It does not
say how many were deleted by the Kill filter.

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Re: Selective Downloads - Kill Filter

2002-07-22 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Monday, July 22, 2002, 8:37:09 PM, Ricardo M. Reyes wrote:

 Unless I'm missing something, the 'number of new ones' less the
 'number download' should be equal to the number of deleted messages.

You are right, of course: if I go back through the log, I can work
out the number of messages deleted!  I think that the example I looked
at before was particularly complicated, as it included messages that
were being held on the server, as well as some downloaded.

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Re: Norton Anti Virus 2001 and TheBat

2002-07-28 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, July 28, 2002, 4:47:00 PM, Lynn Turriff wrote:

 One suspects that it does it so the recipient can see the
 'scanned virus free by Norton' note that it puts in the
 email, but that's pointless too, since you have to open
 the mail to read it.

I have never seen this notice - are you sure it is NAV that puts it
on, and not the user?

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Re: that annyoing beep

2002-07-28 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Sunday, July 28, 2002, 6:25:09 PM, Rick Reumann wrote:

 Yes, I do now remember that message, but shouldn't there be a way
 to still not have that beep come up? I was hoping to not have to
 uncheck to have that mail checked while they are doing there
 service (then I have to remember later to turn the checking back
 on). I wouldn't even mind a dialog box within the Bat saying that
 it couldn't connect to a server, since I understand (and would
 want) some notification if it wasn't connecting. When I'm not in
 the Bat though I hate having to deal with the beep that comes up.
 Occasionally servers have some temporary difficulties and it's
 sort of a pain to have to go and set it to not check while a
 temporary problem is occurring.

This subject has come up before, and I have the same problem from time
to time.  The problem seems to be that TB has a fairly short timeout
of 30 seconds, which is not adjustable.  My ISP struggles to respond
within this timeout at peak times, so I got a lot of bleeps.

As the the solution, there is not one at present, other than turning
off the Windows sound for Exclamation.  The longer term ones will
hopefully appear in TB 2.0: either an adjustable timeout; or the
ability to turn off the sound.  You could always post a wish at
Ritlabs.

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Re: Automate the task

2002-08-09 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Friday, August 9, 2002, 12:20:54 PM, William Moore wrote:

 I always use this piece of javascript to (hopefully) avoid detection.

The following website has a number of scripts to do the same thing,
and it will produce the script for your email address on the fly
ready for you to cut and paste into your pages.

http://innerpeace.org/escrambler.shtml


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Re: autoformat?

2002-08-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, 1:18:46 AM, ~John wrote:

   Help! I can't remember how to turn off this irritating auto-format
   when I'm composing a message.

From the TB Help File [Help|Help Topics and search the index for
Automatic]:

   Automatic Text Formatiing

   You can use the Shift+Ctrl+F key combination to dynamically
   toggle autoformat mode on and off as you work to allow you to type
   lists and column formatted text in amongst the formatted
   paragraphs.

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Re: anti-spam suggestions II

2002-08-14 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, 11:28:20 AM, Blarp wrote:

 I have seen some small time spammers get TOSd through SpamCop and I'm
 sure their blacklist is worthwhile but it's not going to reduce your
 spam if you report things to them. IMHO.

I would agree with this (as a paying user of SpamCop).  It is probably
helpful to report things to SpamCop so that open relays and proxies get
identified, but I found that I had far more success at terminating
spammer's accounts when I did the investigating and reporting myself.

I now have a set of Kill filters that I use alongside Selective
Download, so around 40 messages a day are being deleted on the server,
and the remaining 1 or 2 I report via SpamCop.

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