subject:"\[TruthTalk\] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin\: Purim 2006\-Not All Authority is Bad"




Or, she swims in a shallow pond, Judy.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 22, 2006 15:45
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special 
  Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
  
  
  
  I think she adjusts and adapts to theperceived 
  depth of those she is addressing Lance
  
  
  On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes: You're soo deep, Iz.\ From: 
  "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Baloney.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Lance  Even at this late date such a response 
  is unworthy of you. Israel,  on some  occasions (see it's 
  Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!- 
  Original Message -   From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
   Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A 
  Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin: Purim  2006-Not 
  All Authority is BadBut Israel 
  oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!)  iz 
-Original Message-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Kevin  Deegan  Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 
  2006 4:06 PM  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  
  Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is Bad 
Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often 
  by believers,  has  adopted the role of 
  oppressor.   ROTFL  That is 
  Ludicrous on the face of it.  Where did you pick this whopper 
  up?   Perhaps you need a Geography 
  lesson!  http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html 
   Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of  
  California,  SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic 
  dictatorships with 640  TIMES her  size, 60 TIMES her 
  population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab  propagandists 
  call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone  believe 
   them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of 
   the  lands called Arab, be responsible for the 
  political  dissatisfaction of  22 Arab countries? How 
  can the 13 million Jews in the world  (almost 5  
  million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems  
  of  the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 
  1.4 billion  Muslims  worldwide? 
I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too 
   Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament 
   of  David before he meets Goliath!  
  LOL --- 
  Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:   Lance chimes in: Just like you 
  and I, Linda, John has gone on  the odd  'rant'. 
  but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC!  Sadly, 
   Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has 
   adopted the  role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE 
  WHEN IN POWER.  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 
   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi 
  Daniel  Lapin:  Purim 2006-Not All Authority is 
  Bad
  There is little point in talking with someone who knows me  
  better  than I know me. Such arrogant 
  surmising is the product of the  kind  of 
  narrowness that I disregard.  
   jd  
   -- Original message 
  --   From: 
  "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Jd, I never said the 
  Jews will be restored Outside of the  church;  
  they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews  
  more  than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to 
  me that you do.  Your  stereotypes and slurs 
  are very revealing. Izzy  
 
  Romans 11  Israel Is Not Cast 
  Away  1I say then, God has 
  not (A)rejected His people, has He?  (B)May  it 
  never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of  
  Abraham,  of the tribe of Benjamin. 
2God (D)has 
  not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew  (F)Or do 
   you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about 
   Elijah, how  he pleads with God against 
  Israel?  
   3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR 
  PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN  DOWN  YOUR ALTARS, AND I 
  ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY  LIFE." 
4But what is 
  the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT  for  
  Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 
5In the same 
  way then, there has also come to be at the  present 
   time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 
6But (J)if it 
  is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of  works, 
  otherwise grace is no longer grace.  
   7What then? What (K)Israel is 
  seeking, it has not obtained,  but  those who were 
  chosen obtained it, and the rest were  (L)hardened; 
8just as it is 
  written, 
   
  "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, 
   
  EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, 
   
  DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY."  
   9And David says, 
   
  "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad




I don't believe so Lance. I do believe she has her own 
ideas - that she is faithful where
God has her and that she is weary of the constant 
carping and criticism that one must
endure on this list. When I came it wasn't like 
this but this is what it has become.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:00:50 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Or, she swims in a shallow pond, 
  Judy.
  
From: Judy Taylor 



I think she adjusts and adapts to 
theperceived depth of those she is addressing Lance


On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes: You're soo deep, Iz.\ From: 
"ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Baloney.
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Lance  Even at this late date such a response 
is unworthy of you. Israel,  on some  occasions (see 
it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!
- Original Message -   From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A 
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin: Purim  
2006-Not All Authority is BadBut 
Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!)  
iz   -Original Message- 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Kevin  Deegan  Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 
2006 4:06 PM  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel 
 Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is Bad 
  Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often 
by believers,  has  adopted the role of 
oppressor.   ROTFL  That is 
Ludicrous on the face of it.  Where did you pick this 
whopper up?   Perhaps you need a Geography 
lesson!  http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html 
 Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of  
California,  SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic 
dictatorships with 640  TIMES her  size, 60 TIMES 
her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab  
propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone  
believe  them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of 
one percent of  the  lands called Arab, be 
responsible for the political  dissatisfaction of  
22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world  
(almost 5  million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed 
for the problems  of  the 300 million Arabs, who 
have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion  Muslims  
worldwide?   I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH 
too  Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call 
for disarmament  of  David before he meets 
Goliath!  LOL   
  --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:   Lance chimes in: Just like you 
and I, Linda, John has gone on  the odd  'rant'. 
but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC!  Sadly, 
 Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has 
 adopted the  role of oppressor.This is WHO WE 
ARE WHEN IN POWER.  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; 
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from 
Rabbi Daniel  Lapin:  Purim 2006-Not All 
Authority is Bad   
 There is little point in talking with someone who 
knows me  better  than I know me. 
Such arrogant surmising is the product of the  kind 
 of narrowness that I disregard.  
 jd  
 -- Original message 
--   From: 
"ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Jd, I never said 
the Jews will be restored Outside of the  church; 
 they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike 
Jews  more  than any other unbelievers. It 
is obvious to me that you do.  Your  
stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy 
   
 Romans 11 
 Israel Is Not Cast Away 
 1I say then, God has not 
(A)rejected His people, has He?  (B)May  it 
never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of  
Abraham,  of the tribe of Benjamin. 
  2God (D)has 
not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew  (F)Or do 
 you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about 
 Elijah, how  he pleads with God against 
Israel?  
 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR 
PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN  DOWN  YOUR ALTARS, AND 
I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY  LIFE." 
  4But what is 
the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT  for 
 Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO 
BAAL."  
 5In the same way then, there has 
also come to be at the  present  time (I)a 
remnant according to God's gracious choice.  
 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is 
no longer on the basis of  works, otherwise grace is no 
longer grace.  
 7What then? What (K)Israel is 
seeking, it has not

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad




I offer up as evidence Kevin, Judy, David, Dean and 
Iz.Say n'more, say n'more, a nod's as good as a wink.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Deegan 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 22, 2006 16:34
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special 
  Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
  
  And we have been been here so long and you have 
  offered 
  WHAT EVIDENCE?
  
  O I forgot Lances BASELESS ASSERTIONS qualify as 
  Evidence.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  David:It's 
because this is that which passes for evidence with such as yourself. 
I've seen that for a long time.- Original Message - From: 
"David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
Sent: March 22, 2006 10:26Subject: Re: 
[TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not 
All Authority is Bad Sadly, Lance, you do not see that you 
are the one who offers only a "harumph." Kevin presented actual 
evidence for consideration. David Miller 
- Original Message -  From: "Lance Muir" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:  
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A 
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All 
Authority is Bad David/Kevin: 'Good point'? As I 
said recently to David concerning theology/science/logic; should you 
respond only with 'harumph' in the face of mounting evidence then, 
you ought to be speaking only with those who  hold your 
views on things. This is a 'cultish' approach and, is inherently 
dangerous. - Original Message -  
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
 Sent: March 21, 2006 17:56 
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: 
Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad 
ROTFLOL. Good point, Kevin. David 
Miller - Original Message -  
From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:05 
PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel 
Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is 
Bad Lance says Israel, many times 
oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of 
oppressor. ROTFL That is Ludicrous on 
the face of it. Where did you pick this whopper 
up? Perhaps you need a Geography lesson! 
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html Israel in RED , is a 
democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, SURROUNDED by 
22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her size, 
60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab 
propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone 
believe them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one 
percent of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the 
political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 
million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were 
in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, 
who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims 
worldwide? I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH 
too Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for 
disarmament of David before he meets Goliath! 
LOL --- Lance Muir 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Lance chimes in: 
Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd 'rant'. 
but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, 
Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted 
the role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN 
POWER. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A 
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All 
Authority is Bad There is 
little point in talking with someone who knows me better 
than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the 
kind of narrowness that I 
disregard. 
jd -- Original message 
--  From: "ShieldsFamily" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jd, I never said 
the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will 
be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more 
than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. 
Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. 
Izzy Romans 
11 Israel Is Not Cast Away 1I say then, God 
has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! 
For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of 
the tribe of Benjamin. 2God (D)has not 
rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not 
know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, 
how he pleads with God against 
Israel? 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR 
PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad




More time for BSF, Judy.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 23, 2006 06:10
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special 
  Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
  
  I don't believe so Lance. I do believe she has her 
  own ideas - that she is faithful where
  God has her and that she is weary of the constant 
  carping and criticism that one must
  endure on this list. When I came it wasn't like 
  this but this is what it has become.
  
  On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:00:50 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  
Or, she swims in a shallow pond, 
Judy.

  From: Judy Taylor 
  
  
  
  I think she adjusts and adapts to 
  theperceived depth of those she is addressing Lance
  
  
  On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes: You're soo deep, Iz.\ From: 
  "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Baloney.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Lance  Even at this late date such a 
  response is unworthy of you. Israel,  on some  
  occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!  
- Original Message -   From: 
  "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
   Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A 
  Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin: Purim  
  2006-Not All Authority is Bad
  But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!)  
  iz   -Original Message- 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Kevin  Deegan  Sent: Tuesday, March 
  21, 2006 4:06 PM  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel 
   Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is 
  Bad   Lance says Israel, many times 
  oppressed and, often by believers,  has  adopted 
  the role of oppressor.   ROTFL 
   That is Ludicrous on the face of it.  Where did 
  you pick this whopper up?   Perhaps you 
  need a Geography lesson!  http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html 
   Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of 
   California,  SURROUNDED by 22 hostile 
  Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640  TIMES her  
  size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab 
   propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone 
   believe  them! How can Israel, which occupies 
  one-sixth of one percent of  the  lands called 
  Arab, be responsible for the political  dissatisfaction of 
   22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world 
   (almost 5  million fewer than they were in 1939!) 
  be blamed for the problems  of  the 300 million 
  Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion  
  Muslims  worldwide?   I 
  guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too  Israel 
  Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament  
  of  David before he meets Goliath!  
  LOL 
  --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:   Lance chimes in: Just like 
  you and I, Linda, John has gone on  the odd  
  'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC!  
  Sadly,  Israel, many times oppressed and, often by 
  believers, has  adopted the  role of 
  oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 
   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from 
  Rabbi Daniel  Lapin:  Purim 2006-Not All 
  Authority is Bad   
   There is little point in talking with someone who 
  knows me  better  than I know me. 
  Such arrogant surmising is the product of the  kind 
   of narrowness that I disregard.  
   jd  
   -- Original message 
  --   From: 
  "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Jd, I never said 
  the Jews will be restored Outside of the  church; 
   they will be become believers. You say you don't 
  dislike Jews  more  than any other 
  unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do.  
  Your  stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. 
  Izzy   
Romans 
  11  Israel Is Not Cast 
  Away  1I say then, God 
  has not (A)rejected His people, has He?  (B)May 
   it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of 
   Abraham,  of the tribe of Benjamin. 
2God 
  (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew  (F)Or 
  do  you not know what the Scripture says in the 
  passage about  Elijah, how  he pleads with God 
  against Israel?  
   3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED 
  YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN  DOWN  YOUR

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-23 Thread Kevin Deegan

Your Mutha has been wearing combat boots too!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Or, she swims in a shallow pond, Judy.- Original Message -   From: Judy Taylor   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 22, 2006 15:45  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is BadI think she adjusts and adapts to theperceived depth of those she is addressing Lance  On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're soo deep, Iz.\ From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Baloney.[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lance 
 Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel,  on some  occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!- Original Message -   From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is BadBut Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!)  iz   -Original Message-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin  Deegan  Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is Bad   Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers,  has  adopted the role of oppressor.   ROTFL  That is Ludicrous on the face of it.  Where did you pick this whopper up?   Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!  http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html  Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of
  California,  SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640  TIMES her  size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab  propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone  believe  them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of  the  lands called Arab, be responsible for the political  dissatisfaction of  22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world  (almost 5  million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems  of  the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion  Muslims  worldwide?   I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too  Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament  of
  David before he meets Goliath!  LOL --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on  the odd  'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC!  Sadly,  Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has  adopted the  role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin:  Purim 2006-Not All Authority is BadThere is little point in talking with someone who knows me  better  than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the  kind  of narrowness that I disregard.   jd   -- Original message --   From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the  church;  they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews 
 more  than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do.  Your  stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy Romans 11  Israel Is Not Cast Away  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He?  (B)May  it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of  Abraham,  of the tribe of Benjamin.   2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew  (F)Or do  you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about  Elijah, how  he pleads with God against Israel? 
  3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN  DOWN  YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY  LIFE."   4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT  for  Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL."   5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the  present  time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.   6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of  works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.   7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, 
 but  those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were  (L)hardened;   8just as it is written,  "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,  EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,  DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY."   9And David says,  "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,  AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
  10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,  AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER."   11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did  they?  (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression

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Exactly, you have set yourself up as a judge of ppl who 
knows nothing about what is
important and exhibitsinordinate affection for 
worldly foolishness and the wisdom
of Hollywood.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:12:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I offer up as evidence Kevin, Judy, David, Dean 
  and Iz.Say n'more, say n'more, a nod's as good as a 
  wink.
  
From: Kevin Deegan 

And we have been been here so long and you 
have offered 
WHAT EVIDENCE?

O I forgot Lances BASELESS ASSERTIONS qualify as 
Evidence.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
David:It's 
  because this is that which passes for evidence with such as yourself. 
  I've seen that for a long time.- Original Message - From: 
  "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
  Sent: March 22, 2006 10:26Subject: 
  Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
  2006-Not All Authority is Bad Sadly, Lance, you do not 
  see that you are the one who offers only a "harumph." Kevin 
  presented actual evidence for consideration. David 
  Miller - Original Message -  From: "Lance 
  Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
   Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:42 
  AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel 
  Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad 
  David/Kevin: 'Good point'? As I said recently to David concerning 
  theology/science/logic; should you respond only with 'harumph' in the 
  face of mounting evidence then, you ought to be speaking only with 
  those who  hold your views on things. This is a 'cultish' 
  approach and, is inherently dangerous. 
  - Original Message -  From: "David Miller" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:  
  Sent: March 21, 2006 17:56 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special 
  Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is 
  Bad ROTFLOL. Good point, 
  Kevin. David Miller - 
  Original Message -  From: "Kevin Deegan" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
   Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 
  5:05 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi 
  Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is 
  Bad Lance says Israel, many times 
  oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of 
  oppressor. ROTFL That is Ludicrous on 
  the face of it. Where did you pick this whopper 
  up? Perhaps you need a Geography 
  lesson! http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html 
  Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of 
  California, SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic 
  dictatorships with 640 TIMES her size, 60 TIMES her population 
  and ALL the oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel 
  "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe them! How can 
  Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the lands 
  called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction 
  of 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world 
  (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for 
  the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties 
  to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide? I 
  guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too Israel Oppressing 
  the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of David before 
  he meets Goliath! 
  LOL --- Lance Muir 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Lance chimes in: 
  Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd 
  'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! 
  Sadly, Israel, many times oppressed and, often by 
  believers, has adopted the role of oppressor.This is WHO 
  WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; 
  TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 
  12:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from 
  Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is 
  Bad There is little point 
  in talking with someone who knows me better than I know 
  me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind of 
  narrowness that I disregard. 
  jd -- Original message 
  --  From: "ShieldsFamily" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jd, I never said 
  the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will 
  be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more 
  than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. 
  Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. 
  Izzy 
  Romans 11 Israel Is Not Cast Away 1I say 
  then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May 
  it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of 
  Abraham, of the tribe of 
  Benjamin. 2God (D)has not rejected His

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad





What is that supposed to mean?
It's no trouble to maketime for BSF or others who 
edify .. glorifying God with the fruit of
their lips.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:22:45 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  More time for BSF, Judy.
  
From: Judy Taylor 

I don't believe so Lance. I do believe she has her 
own ideas - that she is faithful where
God has her and that she is weary of the constant 
carping and criticism that one must
endure on this list. When I came it wasn't 
like this but this is what it has become.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:00:50 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Or, she swims in a shallow pond, 
  Judy.
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 



I think she adjusts and adapts to 
theperceived depth of those she is addressing Lance


On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes: You're soo deep, Iz.\ From: 
"ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Baloney.
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Lance  Even at this late date such a 
response is unworthy of you. Israel,  on some  
occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!  
  - Original Message -   From: 
"ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A 
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin: Purim  
2006-Not All Authority is Bad
But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!)  
iz   -Original Message- 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Kevin  Deegan  Sent: Tuesday, March 
21, 2006 4:06 PM  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel 
 Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is 
Bad   Lance says Israel, many times 
oppressed and, often by believers,  has  adopted 
the role of oppressor.   ROTFL 
 That is Ludicrous on the face of it.  Where did 
you pick this whopper up?   Perhaps you 
need a Geography lesson!  http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html 
 Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of 
 California,  SURROUNDED by 22 hostile 
Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640  TIMES her  
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare 
Arab  propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how 
dare anyone  believe  them! How can Israel, 
which occupies one-sixth of one percent of  the  
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political  
dissatisfaction of  22 Arab countries? How can the 
13 million Jews in the world  (almost 5  million 
fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems  
of  the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties 
to 1.4 billion  Muslims  
worldwide?   I guess DAVID OPPRESSED 
GOLIATH too  Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like 
the UN call for disarmament  of  David before he 
meets Goliath!  LOL  
   --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:   Lance chimes in: Just like 
you and I, Linda, John has gone on  the odd  
'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC!  
Sadly,  Israel, many times oppressed and, often by 
believers, has  adopted the  role of 
oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from 
Rabbi Daniel  Lapin:  Purim 2006-Not All 
Authority is Bad   
 There is little point in talking with someone 
who knows me  better  than I know 
me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the  
kind  of narrowness that I disregard. 
  jd 
  -- 
Original message --  
 From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Jd, I never 
said the Jews will be restored Outside of the  church; 
 they will be become believers. You say you don't 
dislike Jews  more  than any other 
unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do.  
Your  stereotypes and slurs are very 
revealing. Izzy   
  Romans 
11  Israel Is Not Cast 
Away  1I say then, God 
has not (A)rejected His people, has He?  (B)May 
 it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of 
 Abraham,  of the tribe of Benjamin. 
  2God 
(D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew  (F)Or 
do  you not know what the

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

I'm just trying to stay at a level that can reach you, Lance. :-) iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:13 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

You're soo deep, Iz.
- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 22, 2006 14:22
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Baloney.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on some
 occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!

 - Original Message - 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
 adopted the role of oppressor.

 ROTFL
 That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
 Where did you pick this whopper up?

 Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
 http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
 Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
 SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
 size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
 propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
 them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
 lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
 22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
 the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
 worldwide?

 I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
 Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
 David before he meets Goliath!
 LOL

 --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
 Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
 role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

   There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
 than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
 of narrowness that I disregard.

   jd

 -- Original message -- 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
 they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
 than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
 stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

 Romans 11
 Israel Is Not Cast Away
  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
 it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
 of the tribe of Benjamin.

  2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
 you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
 he pleads with God against Israel?

  3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
 YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.

  4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
 Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.

  5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
 time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

  6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
 works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

  7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
 those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened;

  8just as it is written,
  (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
  EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
  DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

  9And David says,

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Correction then, Iz: You're soo shallow. (That's gwine reach me.)
- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 23, 2006 06:36
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

I'm just trying to stay at a level that can reach you, Lance. :-) iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:13 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

You're soo deep, Iz.
- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 22, 2006 14:22
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Baloney.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on 
some

occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!

- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: 
Purim

2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
adopted the role of oppressor.

ROTFL
That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
Where did you pick this whopper up?

Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
worldwide?

I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
David before he meets Goliath!
LOL

--- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

  There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
of narrowness that I disregard.

  jd

-- Original message -- 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

Romans 11
Israel Is Not Cast Away
 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
of the tribe of Benjamin.

 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
he pleads with God against Israel?

 3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.

 4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.

 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
those who were chosen obtained

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad









You are only bothered by the fact that I
couldnt care less about your (or jds) opinion of me. The
Lord is the One whose opinion matters to me, and before Him alone I stand or
fall. He tells me not to waste my time trying to reason with hardened
hearts, as that is His realm and not mine. (Gnash your teeth.) izzy











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006
5:01 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special
Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad







Or, she swims in a shallow pond, Judy.







- Original Message - 





From: Judy Taylor






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: March 22, 2006
15:45





Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

















I think she adjusts and adapts to
theperceived depth of those she is addressing Lance

















On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 You're soo deep, Iz.
\
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Baloney.






  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Lance
  Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, 
 on some
  occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel 
 Lapin: Purim
  2006-Not All Authority is Bad
 
 
  But Israel
oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) 
 iz
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Kevin 
 Deegan
  Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel 
 Lapin: Purim
  2006-Not All Authority is Bad
 
  Lance says Israel,
many times oppressed and, often by believers, 
 has
  adopted the role of oppressor.
 
  ROTFL
  That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
  Where did you pick this whopper up?
 
  Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
  http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
  Israel in RED
, is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of 
 California,
  SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 
 TIMES her
  size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare
Arab
  propagandists call Israel expansionist!
And how dare anyone 
 believe
  them! How can Israel,
which occupies one-sixth of one percent of 
 the
  lands called Arab, be responsible for the political 
 dissatisfaction of
  22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world

 (almost 5
  million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems

 of
  the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4
billion 
 Muslims
  worldwide?
 
  I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
  Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament 
 of
  David before he meets Goliath!
  LOL
 
 
 
  --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
  Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on

 the odd
  'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! 
 Sadly,
  Israel,
many times oppressed and, often by believers, has 
 adopted the
  role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from
Rabbi Daniel 
 Lapin:
  Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
 
 
  There is little point in talking with someone who
knows me 
 better
  than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the
product of the 
 kind
  of narrowness that I disregard.
 
  jd
 
  -- Original message
-- 
  From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Jd, I never said the Jews will be
restored Outside of the 
 church;
  they will be become believers. You say you don't
dislike Jews 
 more
  than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that
you do. 
 Your
  stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy
 
 
 
  Romans 11
  Israel Is Not Cast Away
  1I say then, God has not
(A)rejected His people, has He? 
 (B)May
  it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of 
 Abraham,
  of the tribe of Benjamin.
 
  2God (D)has not rejected His
people whom He (E)foreknew 
 (F)Or do
  you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about 
 Elijah, how
  he pleads with God against Israel?
 
  3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE
KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN 
 DOWN
  YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY 
 LIFE.
 
  4But what is the divine
response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT 
 for
  Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO
BAAL.
 
  5In the same way then, there
has also come to be at the 
 present
  time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.
 
  6But (J)if it is by

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Gnats have injured my ego more than you and yours are capable of doing. Too
bad your objectives on TT are thwarted. iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:39 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Correction then, Iz: You're soo shallow. (That's gwine reach me.)
- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 23, 2006 06:36
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 I'm just trying to stay at a level that can reach you, Lance. :-) iz

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:13 PM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 You're soo deep, Iz.
 - Original Message - 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: March 22, 2006 14:22
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Baloney.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on 
 some
 occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!

 - Original Message - 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: 
 Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
 adopted the role of oppressor.

 ROTFL
 That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
 Where did you pick this whopper up?

 Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
 http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
 Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
 SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
 size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
 propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
 them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
 lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
 22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
 the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
 worldwide?

 I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
 Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
 David before he meets Goliath!
 LOL

 --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
 Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
 role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

   There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
 than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
 of narrowness that I disregard.

   jd

 -- Original message -- 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
 they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
 than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
 stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

 Romans 11
 Israel Is Not Cast Away
  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
 it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
 of the tribe of Benjamin.

  2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
 you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
 he pleads with God against Israel?

  3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
 YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-23 Thread Kevin Deegan

When did it change Judy?Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe so Lance. I do believe she has her own ideas - that she is faithful where God has her and that she is weary of the constant carping and criticism that one must endure on this list. When I came it wasn't like this but this is what it has become.On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:00:50 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Or, she swims in a shallow pond, Judy.
From: Judy Taylor I think she adjusts and adapts to theperceived depth of those she is addressing Lance On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're soo deep, Iz.\ From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baloney.[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lance
Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on some occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!- Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is BadBut Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor. ROTFL That is Ludicrous on the face of it. Where did you pick this whopper up? Perhaps you need a Geography lesson! http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of
California, SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide? I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
David before he meets Goliath! LOL --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is BadThere is little point in talking with someone who knows me better than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind of narrowness that I disregard. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews
more than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy Romans 11 Israel Is Not Cast Away 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel?
3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained,
but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 8just as it is written, "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 9And David says, "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT, AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." 11(P)I say then, they did not

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Are they indeed?

- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 23, 2006 07:09
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Gnats have injured my ego more than you and yours are capable of doing. 
Too

bad your objectives on TT are thwarted. iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:39 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Correction then, Iz: You're soo shallow. (That's gwine reach me.)
- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 23, 2006 06:36
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

I'm just trying to stay at a level that can reach you, Lance. :-) iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:13 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

You're soo deep, Iz.
- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 22, 2006 14:22
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Baloney.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: 
Purim

2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on
some
occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!

- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: 
Purim

2006-Not All Authority is Bad

But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
adopted the role of oppressor.

ROTFL
That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
Where did you pick this whopper up?

Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
worldwide?

I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
David before he meets Goliath!
LOL

--- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

  There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
of narrowness that I disregard.

  jd

-- Original message -- 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

Romans 11
Israel Is Not Cast Away
 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
of the tribe of Benjamin.

 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
you not know what the Scripture says in the

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad




It didn't Lance, you are lacking eyes 
thatsee

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 04:16:19 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  When did it change Judy?Judy Taylor 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  



I don't believe so Lance. I do believe she has her 
own ideas - that she is faithful where
God has her and that she is weary of the constant 
carping and criticism that one must
endure on this list. When I came it wasn't 
like this but this is what it has become.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:00:50 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Or, she swims in a shallow pond, 
  Judy.
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 



I think she adjusts and adapts to 
theperceived depth of those she is addressing Lance


On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes: You're soo deep, Iz.\ From: 
"ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Baloney.
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Lance  Even at this late date such a 
response is unworthy of you. Israel,  on some  
occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!  
  - Original Message -   From: 
"ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A 
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin: Purim  
2006-Not All Authority is Bad
But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!)  
iz   -Original Message- 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Kevin  Deegan  Sent: Tuesday, March 
21, 2006 4:06 PM  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel 
 Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is 
Bad   Lance says Israel, many times 
oppressed and, often by believers,  has  adopted 
the role of oppressor.   ROTFL 
 That is Ludicrous on the face of it.  Where did 
you pick this whopper up?   Perhaps you 
need a Geography lesson!  http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html 
 Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of 
 California,  SURROUNDED by 22 hostile 
Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640  TIMES her  
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare 
Arab  propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how 
dare anyone  believe  them! How can Israel, 
which occupies one-sixth of one percent of  the  
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political  
dissatisfaction of  22 Arab countries? How can the 
13 million Jews in the world  (almost 5  million 
fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems  
of  the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties 
to 1.4 billion  Muslims  
worldwide?   I guess DAVID OPPRESSED 
GOLIATH too  Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like 
the UN call for disarmament  of  David before he 
meets Goliath!  LOL  
   --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:   Lance chimes in: Just like 
you and I, Linda, John has gone on  the odd  
'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC!  
Sadly,  Israel, many times oppressed and, often by 
believers, has  adopted the  role of 
oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from 
Rabbi Daniel  Lapin:  Purim 2006-Not All 
Authority is Bad   
 There is little point in talking with someone 
who knows me  better  than I know 
me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the  
kind  of narrowness that I disregard. 
  jd 
  -- 
Original message --  
 From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Jd, I never 
said the Jews will be restored Outside of the  church; 
 they will be become believers. You say you don't 
dislike Jews  more  than any other 
unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do.  
Your  stereotypes and slurs are very 
revealing. Izzy   
  Romans 
11  Israel Is Not Cast 
Away  1I say then, God 
has not (A)rejected His people, has He?  (B)May 
 it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of 
 Abraham,  of the tribe of Benjamin. 
  2God 
(D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew  (F)Or 
do  you not know what the Scripture says in the 
passage about  Elijah, how  he

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Apparently so, Lance.  In the past I have often attempted to reason with you
and your friends, as Judy and David and Kevin still do, with facts and
reasonable discussion.  But instead of responding with further discussion,
one is only met with belittling, derision and mocking. Anything that comes
from faith and the heart, from the Bible or the Holy Spirit is scorned.
That type of response is what eventually causes the Lord to turn a person
over to their sin until they have had their fill of it.  There comes a time
when Believers should no longer strive with scoffers. Matthew 7:6
 Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before
swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to
pieces. One can only wait with an open heart for the prodigals to repent and
return.  That is why I look forward to David closing TruthTalk, as it
currently seems to provide too much of a forum for men to sin and bring
judgment upon themselves. I hope one day to embrace each and every one of
you on the other side, where we will all be adoring Jesus together. Matthew
19:26 And looking at them Jesus said to them,  With people this is
impossible, but with God all things are possible.  Izzy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:19 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Are they indeed?


- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 23, 2006 07:09
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad


 Gnats have injured my ego more than you and yours are capable of doing. 
 Too
 bad your objectives on TT are thwarted. iz

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
 Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:39 AM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Correction then, Iz: You're soo shallow. (That's gwine reach me.)
 - Original Message - 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: March 23, 2006 06:36
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad


 I'm just trying to stay at a level that can reach you, Lance. :-) iz

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:13 PM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 You're soo deep, Iz.
 - Original Message - 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: March 22, 2006 14:22
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad


 Baloney.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: 
 Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on
 some
 occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!


 - Original Message - 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: 
 Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad


 But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
 adopted the role of oppressor.

 ROTFL
 That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
 Where did you pick this whopper up?

 Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
 http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
 Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
 SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
 size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
 propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
 them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
 lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
 22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
 the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Apparently not, Linda.

- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 23, 2006 07:47
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Apparently so, Lance.  In the past I have often attempted to reason with 
you

and your friends, as Judy and David and Kevin still do, with facts and
reasonable discussion.  But instead of responding with further discussion,
one is only met with belittling, derision and mocking. Anything that comes
from faith and the heart, from the Bible or the Holy Spirit is scorned.
That type of response is what eventually causes the Lord to turn a person
over to their sin until they have had their fill of it.  There comes a 
time

when Believers should no longer strive with scoffers. Matthew 7:6
 Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before
swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you 
to
pieces. One can only wait with an open heart for the prodigals to repent 
and

return.  That is why I look forward to David closing TruthTalk, as it
currently seems to provide too much of a forum for men to sin and bring
judgment upon themselves. I hope one day to embrace each and every one of
you on the other side, where we will all be adoring Jesus together. 
Matthew

19:26 And looking at them Jesus said to them,  With people this is
impossible, but with God all things are possible.  Izzy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:19 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Are they indeed?

- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 23, 2006 07:09
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Gnats have injured my ego more than you and yours are capable of doing.
Too
bad your objectives on TT are thwarted. iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:39 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Correction then, Iz: You're soo shallow. (That's gwine reach me.)
- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 23, 2006 06:36
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

I'm just trying to stay at a level that can reach you, Lance. :-) iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:13 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: 
Purim

2006-Not All Authority is Bad

You're soo deep, Iz.
- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 22, 2006 14:22
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: 
Purim

2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Baloney.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on
some
occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!

- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
adopted the role of oppressor.

ROTFL
That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
Where did you pick this whopper up?

Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-23 Thread Kevin Deegan

Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You are only bothered by the fact that I couldnt care less about your (or jds) opinion of me. The Lord is the One whose opinion matters to me, and before Him alone I stand or fall. He tells me not to waste my time trying to reason with hardened hearts, as that is His realm and not mine. (Gnash your teeth.) izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:01 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Or, she swims in a shallow pond, Judy. - Original Message - From: Judy
Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 22, 2006 15:45Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is BadI think she adjusts and adapts to theperceived depth of those she is addressing LanceOn Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're soo deep, Iz.\ From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baloney. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lance Even at this late date such a response is
unworthy of you. Israel, on some occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!- Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is BadBut Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor. ROTFL That is Ludicrous on the face of it. Where did you pick this whopper up? Perhaps you need a Geography
lesson! http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab
countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide? I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of David before he meets Goliath! LOL --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is BadThere is little point in talking with someone who knows me better than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
of narrowness that I disregard. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy Romans 11 Israel Is Not Cast Away 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE."
4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-23 Thread knpraise


Yet, how much time did you spend doing the same to others !!?? Give me a break.

jd

-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Gnats have injured my ego more than you and yours are capable of doing. Too  bad your objectives on TT are thwarted. iz   -Original Message-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir  Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:39 AM  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is Bad   Correction then, Iz: You're soo shallow. (That's gwine reach me.)  - Original Message -  From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:  Sent: March 23, 2006 06:36  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel 
Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is Bad I'm just trying to stay at a level that can reach you, Lance. :-) iz -Original Message-   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir   Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:13 PM   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim   2006-Not All Authority is Bad You're soo deep, Iz.   - Original Message -   From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  To:   Sent: March 22, 2006 14:22   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim   2006-Not All Authority is Bad   Baloney. -
Original Message-   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir   Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim   2006-Not All Authority is Bad Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on   some   occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!   - Original Message -   From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  To:   Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim   2006-Not All Authority is Bad  
; But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz -Original Message-   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan   Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:   Purim   2006-Not All Authority is Bad Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has   adopted the role of oppressor. ROTFL   That is Ludicrous on the face of it.   Where did you pick this whopper up? Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!   http://www.masada2000.org/
geography.html   Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,   SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her   size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab   propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe   them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the   lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of   22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5   million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of   the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims   worldwide? I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too   Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of   David before he meets Goliath!   LOL --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd   'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,   Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the   role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:   Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad   There is little point in ta
lking with someone who knows me better   than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind   of narrowness that I disregard. jd -- Original message --   From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;   they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more   than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your   stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy Romans 11   Israel Is Not Cast Away   1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May <
BR>  it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,   of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God (D)has not

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad




Were someone to retrieve all of the 'Shields 
family' posts then, place them alongside the knpraise' posts with an eye to 
genuine content.case closed!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 23, 2006 08:32
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special 
  Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
  
  Yet, how much time did you spend doing the same to others 
  !!?? Give me a break.
  
  jd
  
  -- 
Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Gnats have injured my ego more than you and yours are capable 
of doing. Too  bad your objectives on TT are thwarted. iz  
 -Original Message-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir 
 Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:39 AM  To: 
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special 
Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is 
Bad   Correction then, Iz: You're soo shallow. 
(That's gwine reach me.)  - Original Message -  
From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
 Sent: March 23, 2006 06:36  
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad I'm 
just trying to stay at a level that can reach you, Lance. :-) iz  
   -Original Message-   From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir  
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:13 PM   To: 
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special 
Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim   2006-Not All Authority 
is Bad You're soo deep, Iz.  
 - Original Message -   From: "ShieldsFamily" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  To: 
  Sent: March 22, 2006 14:22 
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel 
Lapin: Purim   2006-Not All Authority is Bad   
Baloney. 
- Original Message-   From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir  
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM   To: 
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A 
Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim   2006-Not 
All Authority is Bad Even at this late 
date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on   some 
  occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES! 
  - Original Message 
-   From: "ShieldsFamily" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  To: 
  Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49 
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi 
Daniel Lapin: Purim   2006-Not All Authority is Bad  
 ; But Israel oppresses its 
enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz
 -Original Message-   From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM  
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Subject: 
Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:  
 Purim   2006-Not All Authority is Bad 
Lance says Israel, many times 
oppressed and, often by believers, has   adopted the 
role of oppressor. ROTFL 
  That is Ludicrous on the face of it.  
 Where did you pick this whopper up?   
  Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!  
 http://www.masada2000.org/ geography.html   
Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, 
  SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships 
with 640 TIMES her   size, 60 TIMES her population and 
ALL the oil. How dare Arab   propagandists call Israel 
"expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe   them! How 
can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the  
 lands called Arab, be responsible for the political 
dissatisfaction of   22 Arab countries? How can the 13 
million Jews in the world (almost 5   million fewer than 
they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of   the 
300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims  
 worldwide? I guess 
DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too   Israel Oppressing 
the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of   David 
before he meets Goliath!   LOL   
  --- Lance 
Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
 Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone 
on the odd   'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO 
WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,   Israel, many times 
oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the   
role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.  
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   To: 
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  
 Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

David/Kevin: 'Good point'? As I said recently to David concerning 
theology/science/logic; should you respond only with 'harumph' in the face 
of mounting evidence then, you ought to be speaking only with those who hold 
your views on things. This is a 'cultish' approach and, is inherently 
dangerous.



- Original Message - 
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 21, 2006 17:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad




ROTFLOL.  Good point, Kevin.

David Miller

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad


Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
adopted the role of oppressor.

ROTFL
That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
Where did you pick this whopper up?

Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
worldwide?

I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
David before he meets Goliath!
LOL



--- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad


  There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
of narrowness that I disregard.

  jd

-- Original message -- 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy



Romans 11
Israel Is Not Cast Away
 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
of the tribe of Benjamin.

 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
he pleads with God against Israel?

 3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.

 4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.

 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened;

 8just as it is written,
 (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
 EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
 DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

 9And David says,
 (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
 AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
 AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER.

 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
(Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.

 12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
(T)fulfillment be!

 13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as
(U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,

 14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen
and (X)save some of them.

 15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world,
what will their acceptance be but

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

I'd answer IFF you'd read/watch (i.e. make use of) the data available. We 
both know that you (and David and, Judy and, Iz) would not.

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 21, 2006 17:05
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
adopted the role of oppressor.

ROTFL
That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
Where did you pick this whopper up?

Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
worldwide?

I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
David before he meets Goliath!
LOL

--- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

  There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
of narrowness that I disregard.

  jd

-- Original message -- 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

Romans 11
Israel Is Not Cast Away
 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
of the tribe of Benjamin.

 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
he pleads with God against Israel?

 3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.

 4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.

 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened;

 8just as it is written,
 (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
 EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
 DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

 9And David says,
 (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
 AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
 AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER.

 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
(Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.

 12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
(T)fulfillment be!

 13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as
(U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,

 14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen
and (X)save some of them.

 15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world,
what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead?

 16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and
if the root is holy, the branches are too.

 17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you,
being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker
with them of the rich root of the olive tree,

 18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are
arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but
the

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on some 
occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!

- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
adopted the role of oppressor.

ROTFL
That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
Where did you pick this whopper up?

Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
worldwide?

I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
David before he meets Goliath!
LOL

--- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

  There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
of narrowness that I disregard.

  jd

-- Original message -- 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

Romans 11
Israel Is Not Cast Away
 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
of the tribe of Benjamin.

 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
he pleads with God against Israel?

 3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.

 4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.

 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened;

 8just as it is written,
 (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
 EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
 DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

 9And David says,
 (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
 AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
 AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER.

 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
(Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.

 12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
(T)fulfillment be!

 13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as
(U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,

 14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen
and (X)save some of them.

 15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world,
what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead?

 16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and
if the root is holy, the

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

It seems it is you who behave CULTish and tow the line you have been handed and that in spite of the facts!You are a TRUE "Believer" David did Oppress Goliath! LOL Of course you again avoid the facts since they are troublesome and stubborn things. In what way is a country surrounded by avowed enemies, outnumbered and almost land locked by those enemies a Oppressor. Did the jews kill Jesus? Are you an Anti Semite?http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/2873395/detail.html Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David/Kevin: 'Good point'? As I said recently to David concerning theology/science/logic; should you respond only with 'harumph' in the face of mounting evidence then, you ought to be speaking only with those who hold your views on things. This is a 'cultish' approach and, is inherently dangerous.- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: March 21, 2006 17:56Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad ROTFLOL. Good point, Kevin. David Miller - Original
Message - From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor. ROTFL That is Ludicrous on the face of it. Where did you pick this whopper up? Perhaps you need a Geography lesson! http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent
of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide? I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of David before he meets Goliath! LOL --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind of narrowness that I disregard. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy Romans 11 Israel Is Not Cast Away 1I
say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is
no longer grace. 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 8just as it is written, "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 9And David says, "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT, AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much
more will

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread David Miller

Sadly, Lance, you do not see that you are the one who offers only a 
harumph.  Kevin presented actual evidence for consideration.

David Miller

- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

David/Kevin: 'Good point'? As I said recently to David concerning
theology/science/logic; should you respond only with 'harumph' in the face
of mounting evidence then, you ought to be speaking only with those who hold
your views on things. This is a 'cultish' approach and, is inherently
dangerous.

- Original Message - 
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 21, 2006 17:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 ROTFLOL.  Good point, Kevin.

 David Miller

 - Original Message - 
 From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
 adopted the role of oppressor.

 ROTFL
 That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
 Where did you pick this whopper up?

 Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
 http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
 Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
 SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
 size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
 propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
 them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
 lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
 22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
 the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
 worldwide?

 I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
 Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
 David before he meets Goliath!
 LOL

 --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
 Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
 role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

   There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
 than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
 of narrowness that I disregard.

   jd

 -- Original message -- 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
 they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
 than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
 stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

 Romans 11
 Israel Is Not Cast Away
  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
 it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
 of the tribe of Benjamin.

  2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
 you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
 he pleads with God against Israel?

  3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
 YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.

  4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
 Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.

  5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
 time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

  6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
 works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

  7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
 those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened;

  8just as it is written,
  (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
  EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
  DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

  9And David says,
  (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
  AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
 10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
  AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER.

  11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
 (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
 to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.

  12Now if

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

David:It's because this is that which passes for evidence with such as 
yourself. I've seen that for a long time.
- Original Message - 
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 22, 2006 10:26
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Sadly, Lance, you do not see that you are the one who offers only a
harumph.  Kevin presented actual evidence for consideration.

David Miller

- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

David/Kevin: 'Good point'? As I said recently to David concerning
theology/science/logic; should you respond only with 'harumph' in the face
of mounting evidence then, you ought to be speaking only with those who 
hold

your views on things. This is a 'cultish' approach and, is inherently
dangerous.

- Original Message - 
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 21, 2006 17:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

ROTFLOL.  Good point, Kevin.

David Miller

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
adopted the role of oppressor.

ROTFL
That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
Where did you pick this whopper up?

Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
worldwide?

I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
David before he meets Goliath!
LOL

--- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

  There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
of narrowness that I disregard.

  jd

-- Original message -- 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

Romans 11
Israel Is Not Cast Away
 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
of the tribe of Benjamin.

 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
he pleads with God against Israel?

 3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.

 4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.

 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened;

 8just as it is written,
 (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
 EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
 DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

 9And David says,
 (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
 AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
10(O)LET

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily

It is arrogance for you to think that you know more about the issue than we
do simply because we don't agree.  Add to that the ridiculously outrageous
nature of your accusations.  izzy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:56 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

I'd answer IFF you'd read/watch (i.e. make use of) the data available. We 
both know that you (and David and, Judy and, Iz) would not.

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 21, 2006 17:05
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
 adopted the role of oppressor.

 ROTFL
 That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
 Where did you pick this whopper up?

 Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
 http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
 Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
 SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
 size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
 propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
 them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
 lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
 22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
 the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
 worldwide?

 I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
 Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
 David before he meets Goliath!
 LOL

 --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
 Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
 role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

   There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
 than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
 of narrowness that I disregard.

   jd

 -- Original message -- 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
 they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
 than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
 stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

 Romans 11
 Israel Is Not Cast Away
  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
 it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
 of the tribe of Benjamin.

  2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
 you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
 he pleads with God against Israel?

  3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
 YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.

  4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
 Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.

  5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
 time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

  6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
 works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

  7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
 those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened;

  8just as it is written,
  (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
  EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
  DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

  9And David says,
  (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
  AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
 10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
  AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER.

  11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
 (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
 to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.

  12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
 failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
 (T)fulfillment be!

  13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as
 (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,

  14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen
 and (X)save some of them.

  15For if their

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily

Baloney. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on some 
occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!

- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
 Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
 adopted the role of oppressor.

 ROTFL
 That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
 Where did you pick this whopper up?

 Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
 http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
 Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
 SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
 size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
 propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
 them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
 lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
 22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
 the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
 worldwide?

 I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
 Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
 David before he meets Goliath!
 LOL

 --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
 Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
 role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

   There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
 than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
 of narrowness that I disregard.

   jd

 -- Original message -- 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
 they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
 than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
 stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

 Romans 11
 Israel Is Not Cast Away
  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
 it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
 of the tribe of Benjamin.

  2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
 you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
 he pleads with God against Israel?

  3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
 YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.

  4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
 Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.

  5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
 time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

  6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
 works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

  7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
 those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened;

  8just as it is written,
  (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
  EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
  DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

  9And David says,
  (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
  AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
 10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
  AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER.

  11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
 (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
 to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.

  12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
 failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
 (T)fulfillment be!

  13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as
 (U)I am

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

You're soo deep, Iz.
- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 22, 2006 14:22
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Baloney.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on some
occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!

- Original Message - 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
adopted the role of oppressor.

ROTFL
That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
Where did you pick this whopper up?

Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
worldwide?

I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
David before he meets Goliath!
LOL

--- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
  Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

  There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
of narrowness that I disregard.

  jd

-- Original message -- 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

Romans 11
Israel Is Not Cast Away
 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
of the tribe of Benjamin.

 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
he pleads with God against Israel?

 3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.

 4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.

 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened;

 8just as it is written,
 (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
 EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
 DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

 9And David says,
 (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
 AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
 AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER.

 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
(Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.

 12Now if their transgression is

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

From one book worm to another.I read a book a week, love reading, I guess I just read the WRONG books!I have a personallibrary room and a few collections.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'd answer IFF you'd read/watch (i.e. make use of) the data available. We both know that you (and David and, Judy and, Iz) would not.- Original Message - From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: March 21, 2006 17:05Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor. ROTFL That is Ludicrous on
 the face of it. Where did you pick this whopper up? Perhaps you need a Geography lesson! http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide? I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for
 disarmament of David before he meets Goliath! LOL --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind of narrowness that I disregard.
 jd -- Original message --  From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy Romans 11 Israel Is Not Cast Away 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED
 YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 8just as it is written, "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 9And David says, "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A
 SNARE AND A TRAP, AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT, AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their (T)fulfillment be! 13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen and (X)save some of them. 15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, what will their
 acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? 16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too. 17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. 19(AE)You will

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise


What's you oldest "Batman and Robin" edition?

jd

-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
From one book worm to another.

I read a book a week, love reading, I guess I just read the WRONG books!

I have a personallibrary room and a few collections.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd answer IFF you'd read/watch (i.e. make use of) the data available. We both know that you (and David and, Judy and, Iz) would not.- Original Message - From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: March 21, 2006 17:05Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor. ROTFL That is Ludicrous on the face of it. Where did you pick this whopper up? Perhaps you need a Geography lesson! http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her size, 60 TIMES her population and AL
L the oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide? I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of David before he meets Goliath! LOL --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppr
essor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind of narrowness that I disregard. jd -- Original message --  From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy Romans 11 Israel Is Not Cast Away 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works
, otherwise grace is no longer grace. 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 8just as it is written, "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 9And David says, "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT, AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their (T)f
ulfillment be! 13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen and (X)save some of them. 15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? 16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too. 17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18do not be arrogant toward the

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread Judy Taylor






I think she adjusts and adapts to theperceived 
depth of those she is addressing Lance


On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes: You're soo deep, Iz.\ From: "ShieldsFamily" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Baloney.
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Lance  Even at this late date such a response is 
unworthy of you. Israel,  on some  occasions (see it's 
Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!- 
Original Message -   From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special 
Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All 
Authority is BadBut Israel oppresses 
its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!)  iz  
 -Original Message-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Kevin  Deegan  Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 
2006 4:06 PM  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  
Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is Bad 
  Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by 
believers,  has  adopted the role of oppressor. 
  ROTFL  That is Ludicrous on the face 
of it.  Where did you pick this whopper up? 
  Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!  
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html 
 Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of  
California,  SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships 
with 640  TIMES her  size, 60 TIMES her population and 
ALL the oil. How dare Arab  propagandists call Israel 
"expansionist!" And how dare anyone  believe  them! How 
can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of  the 
 lands called Arab, be responsible for the political  
dissatisfaction of  22 Arab countries? How can the 13 
million Jews in the world  (almost 5  million fewer than 
they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems  of  the 
300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion  
Muslims  worldwide?   I guess 
DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too  Israel Oppressing the Arabs 
is like the UN call for disarmament  of  David before he 
meets Goliath!  LOL   
  --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John 
has gone on  the odd  'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN 
IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC!  Sadly,  Israel, many 
times oppressed and, often by believers, has  adopted the 
 role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi 
Daniel  Lapin:  Purim 2006-Not All Authority is 
Bad
There is little point in talking with someone who knows me  
better  than I know me. Such arrogant surmising 
is the product of the  kind  of narrowness that I 
disregard.   jd 
  -- 
Original message --   
From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Jd, I never said the 
Jews will be restored Outside of the  church;  they 
will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews  
more  than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me 
that you do.  Your  stereotypes and slurs are 
very revealing. Izzy   
  Romans 11 
 Israel Is Not Cast Away 
 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected 
His people, has He?  (B)May  it never be! For (C)I 
too am an Israelite, a descendant of  Abraham,  of 
the tribe of Benjamin.  
 2God (D)has not rejected His people 
whom He (E)foreknew  (F)Or do  you not know what the 
Scripture says in the passage about  Elijah, how  he 
pleads with God against Israel?  
 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR 
PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN  DOWN  YOUR ALTARS, AND I 
ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY  LIFE." 
  4But what is the 
divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT  for  Myself 
SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 
  5In the same way 
then, there has also come to be at the  present  
time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 
  6But (J)if it is 
by grace, it is no longer on the basis of  works, otherwise 
grace is no longer grace.  
 7What then? What (K)Israel is 
seeking, it has not obtained,  but  those who were 
chosen obtained it, and the rest were  (L)hardened; 
  8just as it is 
written, 
 
"(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, 
 
EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, 
 
DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY."  
 9And David says, 
 
"(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, 
 
AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 
 10"(O)LET THEIR 
EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT, 
 
AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER."  
 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble 
so as to fall, did  they?  (Q)May it never be! But 
by their transgression (R)salvation has  come  to 
the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.  
 12Now if their transgression is 
riches for the world and  their  failure is riches 
for the Gentiles, how much more will their  (T)fulfillment 
be!   
13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then  as 
 (U)I am an

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-22 Thread knpraise


Or maybe, just maybe, her adaptations have to do with what she eats.

jd

-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



I think she adjusts and adapts to theperceived depth of those she is addressing Lance


On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You're soo deep, Iz.\ From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Baloney.
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lance  Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel,  on some  occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!- Original Message -   From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is BadBut Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!)  iz   -Original Message-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.org  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin  Deegan  Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin: Purim  2006-Not All Authority is Bad   Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers,  has  adopted the role of oppressor.   ROTFL  That is Ludicrous on the face of it.  Where did you pick this whopper up?   Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!  http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html  Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of  California,  SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640  TIMES her  size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab  propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone  believe  them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of  the  lands called Arab, be responsible for the political  dissatisfaction of  22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world  (almost 5  million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems  of  the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion  Muslims  worldwide?   I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too  Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament  of  David before he meets Goliath!  LOL 
--- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on  the odd  'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC!  Sadly,  Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has  adopted the  role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org  Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel  Lapin:  Purim 2006-Not All Author
ity is BadThere is little point in talking with someone who knows me  better  than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the  kind  of narrowness that I disregard.   jd   -- Original message --   From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the  church;  they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews  more  than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do.  Your  stereotypes and slurs are very reveali
ng. Izzy Romans 11  Israel Is Not Cast Away  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He?  (B)May  it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of  Abraham,  of the tribe of Benjamin.   2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew  (F)Or do  you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about  Elijah, how  he pleads with God against Israel?   3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN  DOWN  YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY  LIFE."  
t; 4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT  for  Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL."   5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the  present  time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.   6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of  works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.   7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained,  but  those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were  (L)hardened;   8just as it is written,  "(M)
GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,  EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,  DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY."   9And David says,  "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,  AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.  10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,  AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER."   11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, d
id  they?  (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has  come  to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.   12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and  their  failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their  (T)fulfillment be!   13But I am speaking to

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Which is a very dangerous position to take.  Of course many enjoy it, "when our leaders speak the thinking has been done"David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Sadly, Lance, you do not see that you are the one who offers only a "harumph." Kevin presented actual evidence for consideration.David Miller- Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:42 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is BadDavid/Kevin: 'Good point'? As I said recently to David concerningtheology/science/logic; should you respond only with 'harumph' in the faceof mounting evidence then, you ought to be speaking only with those who holdyour views on
 things. This is a 'cultish' approach and, is inherentlydangerous.- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: March 21, 2006 17:56Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim2006-Not All Authority is Bad ROTFLOL. Good point, Kevin. David Miller - Original Message -  From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:  Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor. ROTFL That is Ludicrous on the face of it. Where did you pick this whopper up? Perhaps you need a
 Geography lesson! http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide? I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of David before he meets Goliath! LOL
 --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind of narrowness that I disregard. jd -- Original message --  From: "ShieldsFamily"
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy Romans 11 Israel Is Not Cast Away 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY
 LIFE." 4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 8just as it is written, "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 9And David says, "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 10"(O)LET
 THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT, AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

And we have been been here so long and you have offered WHAT EVIDENCE?O I forgot Lances BASELESS ASSERTIONS qualify as Evidence.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David:It's because this is that which passes for evidence with such as yourself. I've seen that for a long time.- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: March 22, 2006 10:26Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Sadly, Lance, you do not see that you are the one who offers only a "harumph." Kevin presented actual evidence for consideration. David Miller -
Original Message - From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad David/Kevin: 'Good point'? As I said recently to David concerning theology/science/logic; should you respond only with 'harumph' in the face of mounting evidence then, you ought to be speaking only with those who hold your views on things. This is a 'cultish' approach and, is inherently dangerous. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: March 21, 2006 17:56 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad ROTFLOL. Good
point, Kevin. David Miller - Original Message - From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor. ROTFL That is Ludicrous on the face of it. Where did you pick this whopper up? Perhaps you need a Geography lesson! http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the
oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide? I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of David before he meets Goliath! LOL --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY
ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind of narrowness that I disregard. jd -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the
church; they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy Romans 11 Israel Is Not Cast Away 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE."
4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 8just as it is written, "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 9And David says, "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A
RETRIBUTION TO

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Still waiting for the DATA!ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  It is arrogance for you to think that you know more about the issue than wedo simply because we don't agree. Add to that the ridiculously outrageousnature of your accusations. izzy-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:56 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim2006-Not All Authority is BadI'd answer IFF you'd read/watch (i.e. make use of) the data available. We both know that you (and David and, Judy and, Iz) would not.- Original Message - From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
 Sent: March 21, 2006 17:05Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor. ROTFL That is Ludicrous on the face of it. Where did you pick this whopper up? Perhaps you need a Geography lesson! http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab countries?
 How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide? I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of David before he meets Goliath! LOL --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A
 Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind of narrowness that I disregard. jd -- Original message --  From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy Romans 11 Israel Is Not Cast Away 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! For (C)I too am an
 Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained,
 but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 8just as it is written, "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 9And David says, "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT, AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their (T)fulfillment be! 13But I am speaking to you who
 are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen and (X)save some of them. 15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? 16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too. 17But if some of the

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Your mutha wears combat boots[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:What's you oldest "Batman and Robin" edition?jd-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]   From one book worm to another.I read a book a week, love reading, I guess I just read the WRONG books!I have a personallibrary room and a few collections.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'd answer IFF you'd read/watch (i.e. make use of) the data available. We both know that
 you (and David and, Judy and, Iz) would not.- Original Message - From: "Kevin Deegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: March 21, 2006 17:05Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppressor. ROTFL That is Ludicrous on the face of it. Where did you pick this whopper up? Perhaps you need a Geography lesson! http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her size, 60 TIMES her population and AL L the oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe them! How can Israel, which
 occupies one-sixth of one percent of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide? I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of David before he meets Goliath! LOL --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the role of oppr essor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind of narrowness that I disregard. jd -- Original message --  From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.
 Izzy Romans 11 Israel Is Not Cast Away 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious
 choice. 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works , otherwise grace is no longer grace. 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 8just as it is written, "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 9And David says, "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT, AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." 11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come to the Gentiles, to (S)make them
 jealous. 12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their (T)f ulfillment be! 13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen and (X)save some of them. 15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? 16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too. 17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-21 Thread Judy Taylor





Israel was created by agreements of the young United Nations. Their 
new land was nothing like what it is today. 

The land was covenanted by God to Abraham and his seed 
in an "everlasting" covenant; I'd say that lasts a long
time - wouldn't you JD?

And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is reasonable or even 
human, at times.

One has to wonder why even the other Arab nations don't 
want anything to do with the Palestinians; possibly
because there is no such thing as a Palestinian; they 
are descendents of the Philistines who sailed over from
Greece ...

The surrounding Muslim/Arab world's determination to destroy Isreal without 
the possibility of compromise is disgustingly stupid to me Where, at 
one time, I had some regard for the Muslim religion , today, I 
have none. I think it is violent at its core, a faith built 
upon a hatred for all who are not Muslim.

Yes, Golda Meir used to say that they would have peace 
in the middle east when the Muslims begin to love their
children more than they hate the Jews.


But I have little regard for Judaism, as well. A very 
materialistic people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in 
terms of matters offaith and practice. 

I wouldn't be so quick to judge them JD; if we had the 
same kind ofhistory as a nation we would probably (without supernatural 
help) be the same. They have been run out of just about every country on 
the globe, with pogroms in Europe, Isabella shipped them out of Spain. I 
did a paper on it once and was amazed; Ifound it quite 
apalling.

Biblically speaking, Judaism reached full term in Jesus 
Christ. It is not asister religion. Where some consider 
the Old Testament as the history of the Jewish people, I really view 
it as the history of the Church.  God's chosen are to be found 
within the body of Christ. 

You are ungrateful JD - go back and read Romans 
again. We received the oracles of God through the Jews and God has not 
forsaken them. Not yet. I personally believe their ability to 
prosper is crumbs of the blessings they once walked under.

  

jd

From: 
  "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  
  

  

  
  Jd, there are not 
  yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you know. Soon there will 
  be. What bewilders me is why you rarely miss a chance to take a shot 
  at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are true apostates. They 
  claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus 
  and a different gospel. The Jews at least are honest about their 
  stance on Jesus. I have a special place in my heart for Jews because 
  my Savior is a Jew, because the Father says they are His chosen people, 
  and because one day Jesus will again restore Israel 
  into His kingdom. Why doesnt that have any meaning for you? 
  izzy
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 
  PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special 
  Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is 
  Bad
  
  
  Here is what I said, Linda.: "Do you know of any orthodox Jews who do not deny 
  the Christ? And why does that not have any meaning to 
  you? I will give my money to the needy, thank you very 
  much. " There in not one hateful word in that 
  comment -- not one. 
  
  
  
  You can choose to continue to run your mouth or 
  maybe, just maybe, you can stop with your dedicated effort to make 
  me look as bad as possible and actually answer the above 
  question. 
  
  
  
  I am for US aid to Israel. I am not 
  for spending one penny from church coffers. but go ahead and blast 
  the RCC or those on this forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and 
  kiss up to those who deny the Lord you claim to serve. 
  
  
  I expect such conduct from you. 
  
  
  
  
  jd
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Replacement Theology[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:First , I am not a dispensationalist -- never have been and very likely never will be. It is an American theological invention. a man named Darby being its first major proponent, and Scolfield along with Dallas Theological Seminary being the back bone of its critical acclaim.Secondly, an unregenerated Jew is no different than an unregenerated Floridian. I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason that such was never the intention of God -- never. Jews get no credit from me for the Messiah -- they rejected Him then, killed him, came into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role in establishing them as the Kingdom of
God upon this earth -and left the church almost to the man in the years following the fall of their holy city. There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites than perhaps the sites of any other world religion. That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside the blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a biblical conclusion. And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact that I do not hate the Jew. Israel was created by agreements of the young United Nations. Their new land was nothing like what it is today. And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is reasonable or even human, at times. The surrounding Muslim/Arab world's determination to destroy Isreal without the possibility of compromise is disgustingly stupid to me Where, at one time, I had some regard for the Muslim
religion , today, I have none. I think it is violent at its core, a faith built upon a hatred for all who are not Muslim.But I have little regard for Judaism, as well. A very materialistic people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in terms of matters offaith and practice. Biblically speaking, Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ. It is not asister religion. Where some consider the Old Testament as the history of the Jewish people, I really view it as the history of the Church. God's chosen are to be found within the body of Christ. jd-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jd, there are not yet many Jews
who know their Messiah, as you know. Soon there will be. What bewilders me is why you rarely miss a chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are true apostates. They claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel. The Jews at least are honest about their stance on Jesus. I have a special place in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again restore Israel into His kingdom. Why doesnt that have any meaning for you? izzyFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All
Authority is Bad Here is what I said, Linda.: "Do you know of any orthodox Jews who do not deny the Christ? And why does that not have any meaning to you? I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much. " There in not one hateful word in that comment -- not one. You can choose to
continue to run your mouth or maybe, just maybe, you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as possible and actually answer the above question. I am for US aid to Israel. I am not for spending one penny from church coffers. but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who deny the Lord you claim to serve. I expect such
conduct from you. jd
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And look who sit squarely in the middle of
it all; how very convenient. iz











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:55
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special
Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad





Replacement Theology

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 



First , I am not a dispensationalist -- never
have been and very likely never will be. It is an American
theological invention. a man named Darby being its first major
proponent, and Scolfield along with Dallas Theological Seminary being the
back bone of its critical acclaim.











Secondly, an unregenerated Jew is no different than an
unregenerated Floridian. 





I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason that such
was never the intention of God -- never. Jews get no
credit from me for the Messiah -- they rejected Him then, killed
him, came into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role in
establishing them as the Kingdom
 of God upon this earth
-and left the church almost to the man in the years following the
fall of their holy city. There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites
than perhaps the sites of any other world religion. 











That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside the blessings
of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a biblical
conclusion. 











And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact that I do
not hate the Jew. Israel
was created by agreements of the young United Nations. Their new land was
nothing like what it is today. And the hatred of Palestinians goes
beyond that which is reasonable or even human, at times. The
surrounding Muslim/Arab world's determination to destroy Isreal without the
possibility of compromise is disgustingly stupid to me Where, at
one time, I had some regard for the Muslim religion , today,
I have none. I think it is violent at its core, a faith built
upon a hatred for all who are not Muslim.











But I have little regard for Judaism, as well. A very
materialistic people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in
terms of matters offaith and practice. Biblically
speaking, Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ. It is
not asister religion. Where some consider the Old Testament as the
history of the Jewish people, I really view it as the history of
the Church.  God's chosen are to be found within the body of
Christ. 











jd











-- Original message -- 
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know
their Messiah, as you know. Soon there will be. What bewilders me
is why you rarely miss a chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or
the RCC who are true apostates. They claim to serve Jesus and yet are
anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel. The Jews
at least are honest about their stance on Jesus. I have a special place
in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father says they
are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again restore Israel
into His kingdom. Why doesnt that have any meaning for you? izzy



















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special
Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad















Here is what I said, Linda.: Do you know of any orthodox Jews who do not deny the
Christ? And why does that not have any meaning to you?
I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much.  There
in not one hateful word in that comment -- not one. 



















You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just
maybe, you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as
possible and actually answer the above question. 



















I am for US
aid to Israel.
I am not for spending one penny from church coffers. but go ahead and
blast the RCC or those on this forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and
kiss up to those who deny the Lord you claim to serve. 









I expect such conduct from you. 



















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Actually, Smithson Theologgy versus [apparently] Deegan Theology and/or differently stated than Muir Theology or Taylor Theology or Ottoson Theology.

Can't we all just get along -- seriously?

jd

-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Replacement Theology[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

First , I am not a dispensationalist -- never have been and very likely never will be. It is an American theological invention. a man named Darby being its first major proponent, and Scolfield along with Dallas Theological Seminary being the back bone of its critical acclaim.

Secondly, an unregenerated Jew is no different than an unregenerated Floridian. 
I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason that such was never the intention of God -- never. Jews get no credit from me for the Messiah -- they rejected Him then, killed him, came into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role in establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this earth -and left the church almost to the man in the years following the fall of their holy city. There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites than perhaps the sites of any other world religion. 

That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside the blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a biblical conclusion. 

And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact that I do not hate the Jew. Israel was created by agreements of the young United Nations. Their new land was nothing like what it is today. And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is reasonable or even human, at times. The surrounding Muslim/Arab world's determination to destroy Isreal without the possibility of compromise is disgustingly stupid to me Where, at one time, I had some regard for the Muslim religion , today, I have none. I think it is violent at its core, a faith built upon a hatred for all who are not Muslim.

But I have little regard for Judaism, as well. A very materialistic people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in terms of matters offaith and practice. Biblically speaking, Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ. It is not asister religion. Where some consider the Old Testament as the history of the Jewish people, I really view it as the history of the Church.  God's chosen are to be found within the body of Christ. 

jd

-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 








Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you know. Soon there will be. What bewilders me is why you rarely miss a chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are true apostates. They claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel. The Jews at least are honest about their stance on Jesus. I have a special place in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again restore Israel into His kingdom. Why doesnt that have any meaning for you? izzy





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad


Here is what I said, Linda.: "Do you know of any orthodox Jews who do not deny the Christ? And why does that not have any meaning to you? I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much. " There in not one hateful word in that comment -- not one. 



You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just maybe, you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as possible and actually answer the above question. 



I am for US aid to Israel. I am not for spending one penny from church coffers. but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who deny the Lord you claim to serve. 

I expect such conduct from you. 



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Ive never known a Jew who hated
Palestinians. I do, sadly, know many Christians who hate Jews.
iz











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Judy Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:28
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special
Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad













Israel
was created by agreements of the young United Nations. Their new land was
nothing like what it is today. 











The land was covenanted by God to
Abraham and his seed in an everlasting covenant; I'd say that lasts
a long





time - wouldn't you JD?











And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is reasonable or
even human, at times.











One has to wonder why even the other
Arab nations don't want anything to do with the Palestinians; possibly





because there is no such thing as a
Palestinian; they are descendents of the Philistines who sailed over from





Greece ...











The surrounding Muslim/Arab world's determination to destroy Isreal
without the possibility of compromise is disgustingly stupid to me
Where, at one time, I had some regard for the Muslim religion
, today, I have none. I think it is violent at its
core, a faith built upon a hatred for all who are not Muslim.











Yes, Golda Meir used to say that they
would have peace in the middle east when the Muslims begin to love their





children more than they hate the Jews.

















But I have little regard for Judaism, as well. A very
materialistic people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in
terms of matters offaith and practice. 











I wouldn't be so quick to judge them JD;
if we had the same kind ofhistory as a nation we would probably (without
supernatural help) be the same. They have been run out of just about
every country on the globe, with pogroms in Europe, Isabella shipped them out
of Spain.
I did a paper on it once and was amazed; Ifound it quite apalling.











Biblically speaking, Judaism reached full term in Jesus
Christ. It is not asister religion. Where some consider
the Old Testament as the history of the Jewish people, I really
view it as the history of the Church.  God's chosen are to be found
within the body of Christ. 











You are ungrateful JD - go back and read
Romans again. We received the oracles of God through the Jews and God has
not forsaken them. Not yet. I personally believe their ability to
prosper is crumbs of the blessings they once walked under.















jd











From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know
their Messiah, as you know. Soon there will be. What bewilders me
is why you rarely miss a chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or
the RCC who are true apostates. They claim to serve Jesus and yet are
anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel. The Jews
at least are honest about their stance on Jesus. I have a special place
in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father says they
are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again restore Israel
into His kingdom. Why doesnt that have any meaning for you? izzy



















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23
PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special
Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad















Here is what I said, Linda.: Do you know of any orthodox Jews who do not deny the
Christ? And why does that not have any meaning to you?
I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much.  There
in not one hateful word in that comment -- not one. 



















You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just
maybe, you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as
possible and actually answer the above question. 



















I am for US
aid to Israel.
I am not for spending one penny from church coffers. but go ahead and
blast the RCC or those on this forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and
kiss up to those who deny the Lord you claim to serve. 









I expect such conduct from you. 



















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There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind of narrowness that I disregard. 

jd

-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 








Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will be become believers. You say you dont dislike Jews more than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy

Romans 11
Israel Is Not Cast Away
1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 
2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 
3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 
4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 
5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 
6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. 
7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 
8just as it is written,"(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 
9And David says,"(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." 
11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 
12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their (T)fulfillment be! 
13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 
14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen and (X)save some of them. 
15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? 
16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too. 
17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 
18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. 
19(AE)You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in." 
20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you (AF)stand by your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but fear; 
21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. 
22Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's (AH)kindness, (AI)if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also (AJ)will be cut
 off. 
23And they also, (AK)if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 
24For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree? 
25For (AL)I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this (AM)mystery--so that you will not be (AN)wise in your own estimation--that a partial (AO)hardening has happened to Israel until the (AP)fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 
26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,"(AQ)THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB." 27"(AR)THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM,(AS)WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS." 
28From the standpoint of the gospel they are (AT)enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God's choice they are beloved for (AU)the sake of the fathers; 
29for the gifts and the (AV)calling of God (AW)are irrevocable. 
30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been shown mercy because of their disobedience, 
31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy. 
32For (AX)God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all. 
33Oh, the depth of (AY)the riches both of the (AZ)wisdom and knowledge of God! (BA)How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways! 
34For (BB)WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS COUNSELOR? 
35Or (BC)WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK TO HIM AGAIN?

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2006-03-21 Thread knpraise


You are not required to make up lies about a person -- the judgment you offer is the judgment you will receive. Have a nice day.

jd

-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 








Fine with me; Im only required to warn you. iz





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:11 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad


There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind of narrowness that I disregard. 



jd



-- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; they will be become believers. You say you dont dislike Jews more than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy

Romans 11
Israel Is Not Cast Away
1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 
2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 
3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." 
4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." 
5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 
6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. 
7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 
8just as it is written,"(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." 
9And David says,"(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." 
11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 
12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their (T)fulfillment be! 
13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 
14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen and (X)save some of them. 
15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? 
16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too. 
17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 
18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. 
19(AE)You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in." 
20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you (AF)stand by your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but fear; 
21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. 
22Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's (AH)kindness, (AI)if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also (AJ)will be cut
 off. 
23And they also, (AK)if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 
24For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree? 
25For (AL)I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this (AM)mystery--so that you will not be (AN)wise in your own estimation--that a partial (AO)hardening has happened to Israel until the (AP)fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 
26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,"(AQ)THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB." 
27"(AR)THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM,(AS)WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS." 
28From the standpoint of the gospel they are (AT)enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God's choice they are beloved for (AU)the sake of the fathers; 
29for the gifts and the (AV)calling of God (AW)are irrevocable. 
30For just as you once were disobedient to

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

BTW of What TRIBE are you?

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, Smithson Theologgy versus [apparently] Deegan Theology
 and/or differently stated than Muir Theology or Taylor Theology or
 Ottoson Theology.
 
 Can't we all just get along  --  seriously?
 
 jd
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Replacement Theology
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 First ,   I am not a dispensationalist  --  never have been and very
 likely never will be.   It is an American theological invention.  a
 man named Darby being its first major proponent,  and Scolfield along
 with Dallas Theological Seminary being the back bone of its critical
 acclaim.
 
 Secondly,  an unregenerated Jew is no different than an unregenerated
 Floridian.  
 I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason that such
 was never the intention of God  --  never.   Jews get no credit from
 me for the Messiah  --  they rejected Him then, killed him,  came
 into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role in
 establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this earth - and  left
 the church almost to the man in the years following the fall of their
 holy city.   There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites than perhaps the
 sites of any other world religion.   
 
 That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside the
 blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a biblical
 conclusion.  
 
 And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact that I
 do not hate the Jew.   Israel was created by agreements of the young
 United Nations.  Their new land was nothing like what it is today.  
 And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is reasonable
 or even human, at times.   The surrounding Muslim/Arab world's
 determination to destroy Isreal without the possibility of compromise
 is disgustingly stupid to me   Where, at one time,  I had some regard
 for the Muslim religion  ,  today, I have none.   I think it is
 violent at its core,  a faith built upon a hatred for all who are not
 Muslim.  
 
 But I have little regard for Judaism, as well.   A very materialistic
 people,   fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in terms of matters
 of faith and practice. Biblically speaking,  Judaism reached full
 term in Jesus Christ.   It is not a sister religion.  Where some
 consider the Old Testament as the history of the Jewish people,   I
 really view it as the history of the Church.God's chosen are to
 be found within the body of Christ.  
 
 jd
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you know. 
 Soon there will be.  What bewilders me is why you rarely miss a
 chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are
 true apostates.  They claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs
 preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel.  The Jews at
 least are honest about their stance on Jesus.  I have a special place
 in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father
 says they are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again
 restore Israel into His kingdom.  Why doesnt that have any meaning
 for you? izzy
  
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
  
 Here is what I said, Linda.:  Do you know of any orthodox Jews who
 do not deny the Christ?  And why does that not have any meaning to
 you?I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much.   
 There in not one hateful word in that comment  --  not one.  
  
 You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just maybe, 
 you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as
 possible and actually answer the above question.   
  
 I am for US aid to Israel.   I am not for spending one penny from
 church coffers.  but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this
 forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who
 deny the Lord you claim to serve.  
 I expect such conduct from you.  
  
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The Bible tells us that a insignificant piece of dirt inhabited by Jews
come from all over the world would be a problem to the whole world in
the last days.

It does not tell us of a land filled with Christians would be the
problem

--- ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've never known a Jew who hated Palestinians.  I do, sadly, know
 many
 Christians who hate Jews. iz
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
 Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:28 AM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
 
  
 
  
 
 Israel was created by agreements of the young United Nations.  Their
 new
 land was nothing like what it is today.   
 
  
 
 The land was covenanted by God to Abraham and his seed in an
 everlasting
 covenant; I'd say that lasts a long
 
 time - wouldn't you JD?
 
  
 
 And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is reasonable
 or even
 human, at times. 
 
  
 
 One has to wonder why even the other Arab nations don't want anything
 to do
 with the Palestinians; possibly
 
 because there is no such thing as a Palestinian; they are descendents
 of the
 Philistines who sailed over from
 
 Greece ...
 
  
 
 The surrounding Muslim/Arab world's determination to destroy Isreal
 without
 the possibility of compromise is disgustingly stupid to me   Where,
 at one
 time,  I had some regard for the Muslim religion  ,  today, I have
 none.   I
 think it is violent at its core,  a faith built upon a hatred for all
 who
 are not Muslim.  
 
  
 
 Yes, Golda Meir used to say that they would have peace in the middle
 east
 when the Muslims begin to love their
 
 children more than they hate the Jews.
 
  
 
  
 
 But I have little regard for Judaism, as well.   A very materialistic
 people,   fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in terms of matters
 of
 faith and practice.  
 
  
 
 I wouldn't be so quick to judge them JD; if we had the same kind of
 history
 as a nation we would probably (without supernatural help) be the
 same.  They
 have been run out of just about every country on the globe, with
 pogroms in
 Europe, Isabella shipped them out of Spain.  I did a paper on it once
 and
 was amazed; I found it quite apalling.   
 
  
 
 Biblically speaking,  Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ.   It
 is not
 a sister religion.  Where some consider the Old Testament as the
 history of
 the Jewish people,   I really view it as the history of the Church.  
  God's
 chosen are to be found within the body of Christ.  
 
  
 
 You are ungrateful JD - go back and read Romans again.  We received
 the
 oracles of God through the Jews and God has not forsaken them.  Not
 yet.  I
 personally believe their ability to prosper is crumbs of the
 blessings they
 once walked under.
 
  
 
 jd
 
  
 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you know. 
 Soon
 there will be.  What bewilders me is why you rarely miss a chance to
 take a
 shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are true apostates. 
 They
 claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs preaching a different
 Jesus
 and a different gospel.  The Jews at least are honest about their
 stance on
 Jesus.  I have a special place in my heart for Jews because my Savior
 is a
 Jew, because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because
 one day
 Jesus will again restore Israel into His kingdom.  Why doesn't that
 have any
 meaning for you? izzy
 
  
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
 
  
 
 Here is what I said, Linda.:  Do you know of any orthodox Jews who
 do not
 deny the Christ?  And why does that not have any meaning to you?I
 will
 give my money to the needy, thank you very much.There in not one
 hateful word in that comment  --  not one.  
 
  
 
 You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just maybe, 
 you can
 stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as possible
 and
 actually answer the above question.   
 
  
 
 I am for US aid to Israel.   I am not for spending one penny from
 church
 coffers.  but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this forum who
 are
 dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who deny the Lord
 you
 claim to serve.  
 
 I expect such conduct from you.  
 
  
 
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RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Somebody has missed the History of the world for the last almost 60
years. It has been one big problem after another all revolving around
just what should the UN (or world) do with those Jews anyhow. 

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
 than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
 of narrowness that I disregard.  
 
 jd
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
 they will be become believers.  You say you dont dislike Jews more
 than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
 stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy
  
 Romans 11
 Israel Is Not Cast Away
  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it
 never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of
 the tribe of Benjamin. 
  2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you
 not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he
 pleads with God against Israel? 
  3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR
 ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE. 
  4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself
 SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL. 
  5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time
 (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 
  6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works,
 otherwise grace is no longer grace. 
  7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
 those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 
  8just as it is written,
  (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
  EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
  DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY. 
  9And David says,
  (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
  AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 
 10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
  AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER. 
  11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
 (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
 to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 
  12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
 failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
 (T)fulfillment be! 
  13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as (U)I
 am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 
  14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen and
 (X)save some of them. 
  15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, what
 will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? 
  16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if
 the root is holy, the branches are too. 
  17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you,
 being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker
 with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 
  18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant,
 remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but the root
 supports you. 
  19(AE)You will say then, Branches were broken off so that I might
 be grafted in. 
  20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you
 (AF)stand by your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but fear; 
  21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare
 you, either. 
  22Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell,
 severity, but to you, God's (AH)kindness, (AI)if you continue in His
 kindness; otherwise you also (AJ)will be cut off. 
  23And they also, (AK)if they do not continue in their unbelief, will
 be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 
  24For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree,
 and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how
 much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into
 their own olive tree? 
  25For (AL)I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this
 (AM)mystery--so that you will not be (AN)wise in your own
 estimation--that a partial (AO)hardening has happened to Israel until
 the (AP)fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 
  26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,
  (AQ)THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,
  HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB. 
 27(AR)THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM,
  (AS)WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS. 
  28From the standpoint of the gospel they are (AT)enemies for your
 sake, but from the standpoint of God's choice they are beloved for
 (AU)the sake of the fathers; 
  29for the gifts and the (AV)calling of God (AW)are irrevocable. 
  30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been
 shown mercy because of their disobedience, 
  31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Thats funny coming from you.
Do you want to quote some more of my thoughts/beliefs again?
You had a running debate with yourself posting my thoughts on the
subject of carnal babes.
LOL
It is only arrogant/narrow when others do it to you?
LOL

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
 than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
 of narrowness that I disregard.  
 
 jd
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
 they will be become believers.  You say you dont dislike Jews more
 than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
 stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy
  
 Romans 11
 Israel Is Not Cast Away
  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May it
 never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of
 the tribe of Benjamin. 
  2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do you
 not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he
 pleads with God against Israel? 
  3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR
 ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE. 
  4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for Myself
 SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL. 
  5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present time
 (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 
  6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works,
 otherwise grace is no longer grace. 
  7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
 those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 
  8just as it is written,
  (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
  EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
  DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY. 
  9And David says,
  (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
  AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 
 10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
  AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER. 
  11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
 (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
 to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 
  12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
 failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
 (T)fulfillment be! 
  13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as (U)I
 am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 
  14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen and
 (X)save some of them. 
  15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, what
 will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? 
  16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if
 the root is holy, the branches are too. 
  17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you,
 being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker
 with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 
  18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant,
 remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but the root
 supports you. 
  19(AE)You will say then, Branches were broken off so that I might
 be grafted in. 
  20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you
 (AF)stand by your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but fear; 
  21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare
 you, either. 
  22Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell,
 severity, but to you, God's (AH)kindness, (AI)if you continue in His
 kindness; otherwise you also (AJ)will be cut off. 
  23And they also, (AK)if they do not continue in their unbelief, will
 be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 
  24For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree,
 and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how
 much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into
 their own olive tree? 
  25For (AL)I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this
 (AM)mystery--so that you will not be (AN)wise in your own
 estimation--that a partial (AO)hardening has happened to Israel until
 the (AP)fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 
  26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,
  (AQ)THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,
  HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB. 
 27(AR)THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM,
  (AS)WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS. 
  28From the standpoint of the gospel they are (AT)enemies for your
 sake, but from the standpoint of God's choice they are beloved for
 (AU)the sake of the fathers; 
  29for the gifts and the (AV)calling of God (AW)are irrevocable. 
  30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been
 shown mercy because of their disobedience, 
  31so these also now

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
adopted the role of oppressor.

ROTFL
That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
Where did you pick this whopper up?

Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
worldwide? 

I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
David before he meets Goliath!
LOL



--- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
 Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
 role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
 
 
   There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
 than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
 of narrowness that I disregard.  
 
   jd
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
 they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
 than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
 stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy
 
  
 
 Romans 11
 Israel Is Not Cast Away
  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
 it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
 of the tribe of Benjamin. 
 
  2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
 you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
 he pleads with God against Israel? 
 
  3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
 YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE. 
 
  4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
 Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL. 
 
  5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
 time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 
 
  6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
 works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. 
 
  7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
 those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 
 
  8just as it is written,
  (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
  EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
  DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY. 
 
  9And David says,
  (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
  AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 
 10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
  AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER. 
 
  11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
 (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
 to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 
 
  12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
 failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
 (T)fulfillment be! 
 
  13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as
 (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 
 
  14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen
 and (X)save some of them. 
 
  15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world,
 what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? 
 
  16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and
 if the root is holy, the branches are too. 
 
  17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you,
 being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker
 with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 
 
  18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are
 arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but
 the root supports you. 
 
  19(AE)You will say then, Branches were broken off so that I
 might be grafted in. 
 
  20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you
 (AF)stand by your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but fear; 
 
  21for if

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

A classic the likes of which have not been seen around TT since the old
CPP funding of WMD!

--- Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
 adopted the role of oppressor.
 
 ROTFL
 That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
 Where did you pick this whopper up?
 
 Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
 http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
 Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
 SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES
 her
 size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
 propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
 them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
 lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction
 of
 22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost
 5
 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
 the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion
 Muslims
 worldwide? 
 
 I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
 Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
 David before he meets Goliath!
 LOL
 
 
 
 --- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the
 odd
  'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
  Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted
 the
  role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel
 Lapin:
  Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
  
  
There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
  than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the
 kind
  of narrowness that I disregard.  
  
jd
  
  -- Original message -- 
  From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the
 church;
  they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
  than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
  stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy
  
   
  
  Romans 11
  Israel Is Not Cast Away
   1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He?
 (B)May
  it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
  of the tribe of Benjamin. 
  
   2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or
 do
  you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah,
 how
  he pleads with God against Israel? 
  
   3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
  YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE. 
  
   4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
  Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL. 
  
   5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the
 present
  time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice. 
  
   6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
  works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. 
  
   7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained,
 but
  those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; 
  
   8just as it is written,
   (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
   EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
   DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY. 
  
   9And David says,
   (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
   AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. 
  10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
   AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER. 
  
   11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
  (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has
 come
  to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. 
  
   12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
  failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
  (T)fulfillment be! 
  
   13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as
  (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 
  
   14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow
 countrymen
  and (X)save some of them. 
  
   15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the
 world,
  what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? 
  
   16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also;
 and
  if the root is holy, the branches are too. 
  
   17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and
 (AC)you,
  being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker
  with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 
  
   18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are
  arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the

Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

2006-03-21 Thread David Miller

ROTFLOL.  Good point, Kevin.

David Miller

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
adopted the role of oppressor.

ROTFL
That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
Where did you pick this whopper up?

Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
propagandists call Israel expansionist! And how dare anyone believe
them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
worldwide?

I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too
Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
David before he meets Goliath!
LOL

--- Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
 Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
 role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

   There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
 than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
 of narrowness that I disregard.

   jd

 -- Original message -- 
 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
 they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
 than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
 stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy

 Romans 11
 Israel Is Not Cast Away
  1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
 it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
 of the tribe of Benjamin.

  2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
 you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
 he pleads with God against Israel?

  3Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
 YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.

  4But what is the divine response to him? (H)I HAVE KEPT for
 Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.

  5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
 time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.

  6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
 works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

  7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
 those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened;

  8just as it is written,
  (M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
  EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
  DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY.

  9And David says,
  (N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
  AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
 10(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
  AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER.

  11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
 (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
 to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.

  12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
 failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
 (T)fulfillment be!

  13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as
 (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,

  14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen
 and (X)save some of them.

  15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world,
 what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead?

  16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and
 if the root is holy, the branches are too.

  17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you,
 being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker
 with them of the rich root of the olive tree,

  18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are
 arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but
 the root supports you.

RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

True Christians are a the problem.  Faux Christians are. And Jews are
always a problem for them. iz

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:31 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
2006-Not All Authority is Bad

The Bible tells us that a insignificant piece of dirt inhabited by Jews
come from all over the world would be a problem to the whole world in
the last days.

It does not tell us of a land filled with Christians would be the
problem

--- ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've never known a Jew who hated Palestinians.  I do, sadly, know
 many
 Christians who hate Jews. iz

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
 Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:28 AM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
 Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Israel was created by agreements of the young United Nations.  Their
 new
 land was nothing like what it is today.   

 The land was covenanted by God to Abraham and his seed in an
 everlasting
 covenant; I'd say that lasts a long

 time - wouldn't you JD?

 And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is reasonable
 or even
 human, at times. 

 One has to wonder why even the other Arab nations don't want anything
 to do
 with the Palestinians; possibly

 because there is no such thing as a Palestinian; they are descendents
 of the
 Philistines who sailed over from

 Greece ...

 The surrounding Muslim/Arab world's determination to destroy Isreal
 without
 the possibility of compromise is disgustingly stupid to me   Where,
 at one
 time,  I had some regard for the Muslim religion  ,  today, I have
 none.   I
 think it is violent at its core,  a faith built upon a hatred for all
 who
 are not Muslim.  

 Yes, Golda Meir used to say that they would have peace in the middle
 east
 when the Muslims begin to love their

 children more than they hate the Jews.

 But I have little regard for Judaism, as well.   A very materialistic
 people,   fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in terms of matters
 of
 faith and practice.  

 I wouldn't be so quick to judge them JD; if we had the same kind of
 history
 as a nation we would probably (without supernatural help) be the
 same.  They
 have been run out of just about every country on the globe, with
 pogroms in
 Europe, Isabella shipped them out of Spain.  I did a paper on it once
 and
 was amazed; I found it quite apalling.   

 Biblically speaking,  Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ.   It
 is not
 a sister religion.  Where some consider the Old Testament as the
 history of
 the Jewish people,   I really view it as the history of the Church.  
  God's
 chosen are to be found within the body of Christ.  

 You are ungrateful JD - go back and read Romans again.  We received
 the
 oracles of God through the Jews and God has not forsaken them.  Not
 yet.  I
 personally believe their ability to prosper is crumbs of the
 blessings they
 once walked under.

 jd

 From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you know. 
 Soon
 there will be.  What bewilders me is why you rarely miss a chance to
 take a
 shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are true apostates. 
 They
 claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs preaching a different
 Jesus
 and a different gospel.  The Jews at least are honest about their
 stance on
 Jesus.  I have a special place in my heart for Jews because my Savior
 is a
 Jew, because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because
 one day
 Jesus will again restore Israel into His kingdom.  Why doesn't that
 have any
 meaning for you? izzy

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 Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM
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 Purim
 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

 Here is what I said, Linda.:  Do you know of any orthodox Jews who
 do not
 deny the Christ?  And why does that not have any meaning to you?I
 will
 give my money to the needy, thank you very much.There in not one
 hateful word in that comment  --  not one.  

 You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just maybe, 
 you can
 stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as possible
 and
 actually answer the above question.   

 I am for US aid to Israel.   I am not for spending one penny from
 church
 coffers.  but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this forum who
 are
 dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who

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