Re: [Ugnet] Americanizing The Acholi Man I Love

2007-12-26 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Hahaha LOL Anyo, I like this.  Americanize him until you multi-orgasm to faint. 
 Enjoy him, girl.  Have fun!  There is nothing like that sensation running 
through your body, gil.  Nice way to go. 

Anyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Americanizing The Acholi Man I Love
 
Unlike me, the man I love dearly is very Acholinized. But I enjoy Americanizing 
him because he validates my femininity. He held it in his hand and gave me the 
‘What are you going to do about this?’ eye contact. It was the perfect moment 
to indulge in the surprise that I planned for long. I held his hands to his 
feet and knelt before him. I looked up and said, not in my mouth. Then stop, 
he said. I felt his penis devour my walls and push them apart! I opened more. 
His eyes were fixed between our legs. I asked, Can you feel it? He said, I 
can see it as well!
 
We stopped movement but he paused at the wrong time for me. With our eyes 
locked, I ran my fingers on his bare chest. My hands guided my nipples to touch 
each other. He understood the language and his hands replaced mine. I couldn’t 
hold it any longer so I said, Woda me amara. Ngota. Cuni mit. Fully charged, 
his lips left my breasts and he gripped the back of my knees with both hands 
and spread me like a butterfly. He said Abi layo I reassured him, Its ok. I 
am ready to recieve you. 
   
  As if he had just completed a marathon, his head rested on my chest. He 
remarked Ka to pa co dong en! We laughed! 
   
  Acholi Feminist


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Re: [Ugnet] Thousands displaced in Molo need aid - officials

2007-12-07 Thread Rehema Mukooza
The solution is to have LESS children.  None of these people especially the 
children would be displaced if they had not been born anyway.  Let's keep 
children from suffering.  Let's have less of them brought into this 
forsakened-world.
   
  Humans are animals. Every man for himself.  You only have yourself.  The care 
for others is irrelevant in this case.  People basically care only about their 
survival and their DNA (kids, tribesmen).  
   
  I am tired of seeing humans struggle to survive.  It's time to have LESS 
strugglers.  Life will eventually end.  This whole business of populating the 
earth and prospering no longer makes sense.  If these people do not realize 
that another tribe is ALSO there to survive and come to peace with that, we 
will continue to see more cases like these for as long as these different 
groups reproduce more struggler.  
   
  I for one would wonder if one of these groups would want to kill me if I had 
been a member of the rivaling group.  I would wonder at how these people would 
look onto me.  Perhaps, as an enemy to kill, for all this survival struggle?  I 
find it hard to let go of my money to help feed such people whom for all they 
care about is their own survival-struggle.  Such people are dangerous and I see 
nothing but the same thing repeating itself in this particular Kenyan region.  

ocii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

  KENYA: Thousands displaced in Molo need aid - officials   
Photo: Ann Weru/IRIN KRCS has declared the situation a humanitarian crisis 
NAIROBI, 6 December 2007 (IRIN) - Tensions are high in Kenya's New Molo 
District, Rift Valley province, where ethnic clashes have resulted in 15 deaths 
and 16,000 villagers displaced since October, an official of the Kenya Red 
Cross Society (KRCS) said on 6 December. 

Those displaced are sleeping in the open and catching pneumonia and other 
respiratory tract infections because of the prevailing cold weather, Dr James 
Kisia, the deputy secretary-general of the KRCS, told IRIN. 

The most affected areas are Kuresoi, Keringet and Olengurone divisions of New 
Molo, Kisia said. Several people have been injured, some admitted to hospital, 
and at least 200 houses in these areas have been burnt. 

People cannot access their farms, the sanitation facilities in areas where 
they have sought refuge are stretched; some are even consuming untreated water 
from a nearby river, he said. Even though we are distributing food and 
non-food items to the displaced, there is a huge gap as we lack the funds to 
cover all the displaced. 

Josephat Wafula, the KRCS coordinator for Nakuru district, said at least 200 
families had arrived in Molo town and most had sought refuge at a church 
compound. 

There have been no reports of overnight [5-6 December] violence but we have 
received reports of houses having been torched, he said. 

On 5 December, the KRCS declared the situation in New Molo a humanitarian 
crisis and appealed for funds to help those affected. 

According to the KRCS, the clashes are politically instigated and pit three 
ethnic communities against one another. 

Analysts and political observers trace the root of the violence to Kenya's 
colonial era when, in 1941, the government settled 4,000 squatters in 
Olengurone to work in white-owned plantations and farms nearby. Clashes in the 
area since the 1990s have pitted descendants of these squatters against other 
local communities settled in the area. 

An analyst said these villagers had since become pawns in political games of 
politicians who, every election year, incite their supporters to evict their 
neighbours, promising them land left behind by those who flee. 

Newspaper reports on 6 December indicated that police had arrested 102 people 
over the violence and that 60 others had been charged in courts since the start 
of the clashes. 

Kisia said the violence seemed cyclical, intensifying mostly during election 
years. A general election in Kenya is scheduled for 27 December. 

Tension is high on the ground, with continued lack of trust between the 
communities living in the affected areas, KRCS said its latest bulletin. 
Initially the clashes had been concentrated in Kuresoi area, but there seems 
to an escalation in the adjacent divisions of Keringet. The displaced families 
are camping in the town centre, police stations, the DO's [district officer's] 
office and churches. Tension is high on the ground, with continued 
lack of trust between the communities living in the affected areas 

KRCS said maize, beans and potato farms that were ready for harvesting had been 
abandoned. The crops will eventually be wasted in the farms, which will lead 
to prolonged suffering of the affected population. 

At a camp for the displaced at Keringet, KRCS said, water and sanitation 
facilities were over-stretched, with the displaced using water from shallow 
wells and few from taps. 

About 400 people are camping at the Keringet police post, 

Re: [Ugnet] Nsibambi wants to meet Acholi MPs over land

2007-12-04 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Mr. Ocii,
   
  I had almost forgotten about these Madhavanis boosting about exporting their 
sugar to other surrounding countries.  Them boosting about how much export tax 
they contribute to the Uganda gov't for these things. 
   
  Yep, it is time to rise up and fight for our people's survival.
   
  How dare these pigs, think about giving away Acholiland when we have people 
in ID camps who still have to reposess their land?  This is injustice.  We 
should talk to the Uganda Gov't.
  They will definately realize their error and abandon this scheme.

ocii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ms Mukooza,
   
  This is not about Ugandans consuming sugar. That is wrong assumption! 
   
  Most of the sugar produce in Uganda are exported abroad; what Ugandans 
locally consume cannot amount to even 20% of what the Madhvanis produce. 
   
  I will reply you extensively on this when I get time.
   
  The entire scheme is about exploitation of citizens; yet we have government 
that only takes tax payers money without doing anything for citizens in return 
save for buying arms and ammunitions to kill them variously!
   
  Why any sane person support such a government is the question. However, time 
is fast approaching when one's stomach is not longer going to determine the 
future and life of the majority population!! Period.
   
  And, Ms. Mukooza, join [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you don't mind. The forum is for 
all Ugandans, whether you are UPC, FDC, CP, NRA/M, DP, KY, you name it. All are 
wel come.
   
  Ocii

Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think all Ugandans should STOP consuming sugar!  And yet every time I pass 
through the city I see people drinking tea and coffee!  Most of these rural 
people have not TASTED sugar in their lives.  Madhvani's sugar would have no 
market if these city dwellers were not eating up all that sugar.  Basically, 
the rural people are suffering at the hands of the city.

ocii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The NRA/M government needs to leave 
Acholiland alone! It has been 21 years that they have been in power. But all 
these times what they did was liquidate the people; render them destitutes, 
unproductive, plus what nots! 
   
  Development cannot come through selling the country's resources to 
foreigners; destroying vital factors necessary for economic development like 
human resources!! Development comes through a state utilizing tax payers money 
wisely - by investing in sound public projects that create jobs, beside 
citizens' education! 
   
  None of these vital economic measures have been carried out in Uganda for the 
last 21 years. And today these fools want to sell Acholiland to someone who 
would only be siphoning profits made to his country of origin? What 
developments are there in Busoga where the Madhvanis have been operating from 
for donkey years now?
   
  These fools must leave Acholiland alone. They have squandered they time in 
power, and must be pushed out. Period.
   
  Ocii
  
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  Nsibambi wants to meet Acholi MPs over land
  YASIIN MUGERWA
PARLIAMENT  
 
THE government has written to Acholi MPs, inviting them for a discussion on the 
proposed allocation of 40,000 hectares of land in the northern district of 
Amuru to the Madhvani Group of Companies for sugar cane growing.

The MPs had early roundly rejected Madhvani's request on grounds that the land 
in question has oil prospects. They also claim the land is too big for one 
person and that internally displaced persons (IDPs) should first re-posses 
their plots in the district. 

But in a letter dated November 26, 2007, addressed to the chairperson of the 
Acholi Parliamentary Group, Mr Livingstone Okello-Okello, Prime Minister Apolo 
Nsibambi invited all Acholi MPs to his office to speed up the allocation 
process. 

I wish to have a discussion with the Acholi Parliamentary Group on this matter 
[Amuru land] along with Mr K. P Eswar, Director Corporate Affairs. I wish to 
meet you on Tuesday 18th December 2007 at 9.15 am sharp in the Prime Minister's 
Boardroom, the letter reads in part. 

The government's invitation comes two months after MPs from the region 
unanimously rejected Madhvani's request to grow sugar cane in Amuru District 
without the people's consent. 

When contacted yesterday, Mr Okello-Okello said; We will obey the government 
regarding their invitation. We don't know what exactly they want to tell us, 
but we are ready to go there and listen. 

Mr Okello added; As leaders from Acholi, our stand is clear, any investor 
should acquire land directly through our people. We cannot allow investors who 
lobby from higher offices other than the locals who own the land. This is what 
exactly we told Madhvani and if this issue comes up, we shall maintain the same 
position. 

During a tour of the disaster-struck northern region recently, President 
Museveni urged the Acholi

Re: [Ugnet] Nsibambi wants to meet Acholi MPs over land

2007-12-03 Thread Rehema Mukooza
I think all Ugandans should STOP consuming sugar!  And yet every time I pass 
through the city I see people drinking tea and coffee!  Most of these rural 
people have not TASTED sugar in their lives.  Madhvani's sugar would have no 
market if these city dwellers were not eating up all that sugar.  Basically, 
the rural people are suffering at the hands of the city.

ocii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The NRA/M government needs to leave 
Acholiland alone! It has been 21 years that they have been in power. But all 
these times what they did was liquidate the people; render them destitutes, 
unproductive, plus what nots! 
   
  Development cannot come through selling the country's resources to 
foreigners; destroying vital factors necessary for economic development like 
human resources!! Development comes through a state utilizing tax payers money 
wisely - by investing in sound public projects that create jobs, beside 
citizens' education! 
   
  None of these vital economic measures have been carried out in Uganda for the 
last 21 years. And today these fools want to sell Acholiland to someone who 
would only be siphoning profits made to his country of origin? What 
developments are there in Busoga where the Madhvanis have been operating from 
for donkey years now?
   
  These fools must leave Acholiland alone. They have squandered they time in 
power, and must be pushed out. Period.
   
  Ocii
  
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  Nsibambi wants to meet Acholi MPs over land
  YASIIN MUGERWA
PARLIAMENT  
 
THE government has written to Acholi MPs, inviting them for a discussion on the 
proposed allocation of 40,000 hectares of land in the northern district of 
Amuru to the Madhvani Group of Companies for sugar cane growing.

The MPs had early roundly rejected Madhvani's request on grounds that the land 
in question has oil prospects. They also claim the land is too big for one 
person and that internally displaced persons (IDPs) should first re-posses 
their plots in the district. 

But in a letter dated November 26, 2007, addressed to the chairperson of the 
Acholi Parliamentary Group, Mr Livingstone Okello-Okello, Prime Minister Apolo 
Nsibambi invited all Acholi MPs to his office to speed up the allocation 
process. 

I wish to have a discussion with the Acholi Parliamentary Group on this matter 
[Amuru land] along with Mr K. P Eswar, Director Corporate Affairs. I wish to 
meet you on Tuesday 18th December 2007 at 9.15 am sharp in the Prime Minister's 
Boardroom, the letter reads in part. 

The government's invitation comes two months after MPs from the region 
unanimously rejected Madhvani's request to grow sugar cane in Amuru District 
without the people's consent. 

When contacted yesterday, Mr Okello-Okello said; We will obey the government 
regarding their invitation. We don't know what exactly they want to tell us, 
but we are ready to go there and listen. 

Mr Okello added; As leaders from Acholi, our stand is clear, any investor 
should acquire land directly through our people. We cannot allow investors who 
lobby from higher offices other than the locals who own the land. This is what 
exactly we told Madhvani and if this issue comes up, we shall maintain the same 
position. 

During a tour of the disaster-struck northern region recently, President 
Museveni urged the Acholi to embrace investors who want to grow sugar cane 
there. If the Acholi take sugar, they should know that it is not grown in the 
air, but on land belonging to some tribe, Mr Museveni said. 

However, without the consent of the people, it is likely to take more than that 
to get the Acholi to part with land for sugar cane growing. The oil prospects 
in the area has also complicated the matter as MPs insist that the government 
needs to first undertake exploration studies to ascertain whether there's oil.

According to Prof Nsibambi's letter, the proposed sugar complex will consist of 
nucleus estates, out-growers groups, schools, hospitals and houses for all the 
employees. The establishment of the Sugar complex in Amuru will provide 
employment in addition to contributing to the poverty alleviation programme, 
the letter reads.

But Reagan Okumu, the vice chairperson of Acholi Parliamentary Group said; 
There is no free land in Acholi, because the land is communally owned. It is 
not clear from the project proposal how you intend to acquire the land. Given 
the fast growing population of the Acholi sub-region and the technological 
advancement, it is not appropriate to set aside this large chunk of land for 
one project. 

The war has destroyed everything in Acholi. The only asset left for the people 
of Acholi is land. Any proposed investment should benefit the people directly, 
Mr Okumu said.

  

 

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[Ugnet] Fwd: ENDGAME - Blueprint For Global Enslavement, by Alex Jones

2007-11-29 Thread Rehema Mukooza


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  I have just watched this movie and I gotta tell you there is nothing in it 
that I have not already thought of.  You see, unlike most people I chose a long 
time ago to NOT have children.  Reproduction of the human species no longer 
makes sense if the reproduced people are to be subjected to the New World 
Order.  Alex Jones and you all people can call it whatever you want but this 
Order began from the time humans decided to establish CiViLiZaTioN.  
   
  Ever since people decided that EDuCaTion is the ONLY way to success, 
self-worth, and gaining respect in society, this has been the outcome.  Why are 
we suprised?  Knowing what's going on will NOT stop this New Order.  We can 
know all we want to know but as long as we are part of CiViLiZaTioN, typing on 
our computers are we are doing right now, it is only kind if we turn a blind 
eye and let this COME.  
   
  Let me tell you, it would be even more kinder if this movie is NOT 
distributed to many people.  I am not encouraging ignorance but some times it 
is kinder if people do not know the WORSE that is to come.  If a person today 
can be born in a wealthy family and still be subjected to eating peanut butter 
and jelly sandwiches because they taste good then, there is no hope.
   
  Let us be real, the system will not be able to hold up sooner or later.  I 
came to realize a long time ago that people can NOT think beyond making more 
money, their families, their social lives, and their Gods.  
   
  People think that just because they have college money, a nice house, nice 
relationships, they should multiple.  Why are people choosing to bring another 
person into this world and subject this people to THIS?  A few years in the 
past, I asked my parents WHY they had me.  I still can not believe the simple 
answers they gave me!  Answers like: ... we had you because we wanted to have 
kids... you bring joy to our lives.  
   
  My parents WANTED to have kids, that I brought JOY to THEIR lives.  I 
realized then how SELFISH and UNTHOUGHFUL those two and their ancestors have 
been.  I am not depressed as most of you might think, but then again, what IS 
depression?  I decided to NEVER repeat what my ancestors have done.  I am 
ending this genetic journey with me.  
   
  If the survival of the fittest theory is true, then a person and his/her 
multiples will have to be fit for this kind of EXISTENCE.  This New Order has 
been too rough for me to even imagine introducing a child into.  I shiver at 
the thought of subjecting a child to SCHOOL.  I am not anti-education, but to 
me it is like subjecting a person to torture.
   
  I still remember the days, weeks, months, years of softly, kindly, but rudely 
awakened out of my rest to wake up and get ready for school.  There was no 
abuse involved, but nevertheless, it was a rude disturbance to my existence and 
something I do not wish for another.  
   
  I have SEEN life through the eyes of those that I will NEVER bring to life.  
   
  There are millions of people who want and will multiply to TEST their 
multiples and see what they will do with in this New World Order.  I have and 
still encourage people who do not understand my thinking to have children.  
That is so because ONLY and ONLY if a person has kids can they have a true 
insight of what's happening around us.  That's when they turn to their Gods, 
praying for their children's prosperity and so forth, and strive for the best 
education for their kids.  
   
  Until you want the best for your child like all parents do, and dread the 
worst for your kid like all parents, then you will get tired of wanting and 
dreading.  This cycle is too cumbersome!  
   
  
 
   
   
  
Avalaura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The movie is a little long, but well worth it.  I encourage you to 
watch it and share with others.
   
  WAKE UP people, this is not a game! Know your history and see whats going on 
around us before its too late.
   
  Click here to watch the movie on google: 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7828479818173821931q=endgametotal=333start=0num=10so=1type=searchplindex=2
   
  End Game website: http://www.endgamethemovie.com/trailer.html
   
  Peace  Blessings,
  Avalaura


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Re: [Ugnet] Hiting A Woman's Breast

2006-06-30 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Are you talking about real breasts or implants?  Anyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks for your response.  It would be difficult to find an abused woman who says "He punched, boxed, or kicked my breasts". Given the research that I have done, I found that women's breasts get hurt during a scuffle or with an objectONLY , NOT the man's direct hit with a hand/fist. If you have information to the contrary, pleaseforward it to me. My argument is that behind all that faked madness, there is very clear conscious operating protecting the breasts. Why? Theanswer is embedded in the sexual psyche of every sperm
 producer.The Albanian woman in the link said her abuser tried totear off her shirt while trying to get to her breast. The fact he did not touch her breasts leaves questions to be answered. The other abuser threw an object at the abusedwoman who later reported her breasts area swollen and hurting. Neither woman said the abuser hit their breasts with his hands.If you got more information for me, please let me know.Let me ifI misssome informationin the link that you sent to me.Thanks for your response.http://www.un-instraw.org/revista/hypermail/alltickers/en/0834.htmlhttp://www.prisonradio.org/domestic-violence_zuver.htm  EQUALITY FOR KNOWLEDGE IS POWER  "The significant problems we face cannot be solved by the same level of thinking
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Re: [Ugnet] BRAIN DAMAGING HABITS /The main causes of liver damage are:

2006-06-29 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Whatever these findings mean, they ONLY apply to those who stuff their guts with COOKED FOOD! Let them damage their bodies because food is apparantly more important to them than their health. Die suckers, die!Save yourselves by joining the Raw Vegan Movement.  www.thegardendiet.com  www.rawtimes.com  etc etcEdward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  BRAIN DAMAGING
 HABITS1. No BreakfastPeople who do not take breakfast are going to have a lower blood sugar level.This leads to an insufficient supply of nutrients to the brain causing brain degeneration.   2. Overeating It causes hardening of the brain arteries, leading to a decrease in mental power.3. SmokingIt causes multiple brain shrinkage and may lead to Alzheimer disease.4. High Sugar consumptionToo much sugar will interrupt the absorption of proteins and nutrients causing malnutrition and may interfere with brain development.5. Air PollutionThe brain is the largest oxygen consumer in our body. Inhaling polluted air decreases the supply of oxygen to the brain, bringing about a decrease in brain efficiency.6. Sleep DeprivationSleep allows our brain to rest. Long term deprivation from sleep will accelerate the death of brain
 cells.  7. Head covered while sleepingSleeping with the head covered increases the concentration of carbon dioxide and decrease concentration of oxygen that may lead to brain damaging effects.   8. Working your brain during illness   Working hard or studying with sickness may lead to a decrease in effectiveness of the brain as well as damage the brain.   9. Lacking in stimulating thoughts   Thinking is the best way to train our brain, lacking in brain stimulation thoughts may cause brain shrinkage. 10. Talking Rarely  Intellectual conversations will promote the efficiency of the brain    The main causes of liver damage are: 1.   Sleeping too late and waking up too late are main cause.  2.  Not urinating in the
 morning.  3.   Too much eating.  4. 
  Skipping breakfast.  5.  Consuming too much medication.  6.   Consuming too much preservatives, additives, food coloring, and artificial sweetener.  7.  Consuming unhealthy cooking oil. As much as possible reduce cooking oil use when frying, which includes even  the best cooking oils like olive oil. Do not consume fried foods when you are tired, except if the body is very fit.
8.  Consuming raw (overly done) foods also add to the burden of liver.
 Veggies should be eaten raw or cooked 3-5 parts. Fried veggies should be finished in one sitting, do not store.We should prevent this without necessarily spending more. We just have to adopt
 a good daily lifestyle and eating habits. Maintaining good eating habits and time condition are very important for our bodies to absorb and get rid of unnecessary chemicals according to "schedule."  Because:   Evening at 9 - 11pm : is the time for eliminating unnecessary/toxic chemicals (detoxification) from the antibody system (lymph nodes). This time duration should be spent by relaxing or listening to music. If during this time a housewife is still
 in an unrelaxed state such as washing the dishes or monitoring children doing their homework, this will have a negative impact on health. Evening at
 11pm - 1am : is the detoxification process in the liver, and ideally should be done in a deep sleep state.Early morning 1 - 3am: detoxification process in the gall, also  ideally done in a deep sleep state.
  Early morning 3 - 5am : detoxification in the lungs. Therefore there will sometimes be a severe cough for cough sufferers during this time. Since the detoxification process had reached the respiratory tract, there is no need to take cough medicine so as not to interfere with toxin removal process.
  Morning 5 - 7am: detoxification in the colon, you should empty your bowel.Morning 7 - 9am: absorption of nutrients in the small intestine, you should be having breakfast at this time. Breakfast should be earlier, before 6:30am, for those who are sick. Breakfast before 7:30am is very beneficial to those wanting to stay fit. Those who always skip breakfast, they should change their habits, and it is still better to eat breakfast late until 9 - 10am rather than no meal at all.
   Sleeping so late and waking up too late will disrupt the process of  removing unnecessary chemicals. Aside from that, midnight to 4:00
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[Ugnet] CRISS ANGEL: Mind Freek!

2005-08-01 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Members,

Huh, it's been a verylong, long, long long time since I've been anywhere on our web discussion lists. I've got a very busy schedule like a MF, seriously. Web discussions nolonger hold my interest for an unknown reason (not even to myself). I know I know -- it's SUMMER! It's fun outdoors and I couldn't set my butt infront of a PC. I just could not do it. With fellow MFs outside I couldn't resist the temptation to join in and have fu, showsome skin, and have incredible one-nightstands. Great things have happened!

Recently, as I was perusing through TV channels (little interest in tv)my eyez fell on CRISS ANGEL: Mind Freek! Oh he's owesome! The best magician I've ever seen - - people levitating 0-gravity! That's the s**t right there! Mind-blowing! David Blaine is a junior compared to Criss Angel. I was sold - I believe in magical iillusions. I'm not sure I can return to God/Allah in the same way I used to before Criss Angel freeked my mind. 
Visit www.crissangel.com and check out his Media Video Library especially "NYC Times Square Levitation." 

Criss Angel is the best thing that has happened on TV. I rarely watch tv and I almost turned the tv off before I took a second glanceat what has become the almost only thing I watch on tv lately; MIND FREEK. Has anyone watched The Matrix? I wonder if magic works in a similar wayto The Matix (if anyonesaw/remembers that kid bend a spoon - the matrix)?

Hollywood entertainment took me on a ride this summer. Has anyone seen MR.  MRS. SMITH, the movie? Brad Pitt is hott! Ouuch it hurts! I've beenday dreaming of a steamy one-night stand with him. He's on Vin Diesel tail.I recommend yall to check the movie out.

Folks, I got to gooo. I don't know when I'll be around. It's not myfault that web discussions don't hold my interest, anymore. They suck! I'll try to answer replies to THIS email alone. Keep the replies simple and straight to the point. Or elseI'll loseinterest and sink (return?)into oblivion.


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[Ugnet] Re: A Tribe in Botswana Follows a Leader Called Woman

2004-12-13 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Will Sangalyambogo take over the Kabakaship/Nnabakyaalaship? 
Prince Jjunju (Mutebi's son)? Other daughters of Kabaka Mutebi?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  it is a
 reflection of her father'sshock when he first saw her. Translated from Setswana, thelocal language here, it means simply "woman." Her father was chief of the Baletes, one of the eight majortribes of Botswana, who settled in this region just southof the nation's capital, Gaborone, more than a century ago.In the Balete royal family, it is a given that the chief'sfirstborn child will be a boy so that he can inherit thethrone. "My dad said: 'Well, it's a woman. What can I do? It's mychild,' " Ms. Seboko said. Woman Seboko is now 54, and lo and behold, she is theleader of the Baletes herself, the first female paramountchief ever in Botswana. She was enthroned 15 months agoafter challenging and overcoming her own family's effortsto keep the chiefdom a patriarchy. "She had uncles who could definitely ascend to the throne,"said Loabile Mokosi, a cousin on her late father's side."But the question 
 became:
 What stops her?" Very little, it seems. In a society where women areexpected to bow without question to their husbands' sexualdemands, even if their spouses are unfaithful, where wifebeating is all too common and where women who marry undercustomary law are still considered minors, her victory doesnot just stand out. It proclaims that centuries-oldBotswana tradition is doing the bowing now, to irresistiblechange. A woman with a decisive manner and a taste for matchingtwo-piece embroidered outfits, Ms. Seboko seems verycomfortable in her new role. But her path to one ofBotswana's most important traditional posts was anythingbut easy. After her father died in 1966, Ms. Seboko's uncle becamechief. Her only brother succeeded him in 1996. When he diedin 2001, her father's relatives put forward a male cousinof Ms. Seboko as his successor, saying that according tocustom, only males could rule. <
 BR>Ms.
 Seboko, backed by her mother and seven sisters,insisted to the tribal elders that the touchstone was notcustom, but the 38-year-old Constitution of Botswana, withits guarantee of freedom from discrimination. Botswana'swomen's rights leaders urged her forward, saying that womenmust grasp power, not wait for it to be handed to them. Ms. Seboko's 33,000 subjects here in Botswana's sun-bakedsoutheast corner clearly were a bit perplexed by theprospect of a female ruler. At her coronation, theyshowered her with gifts befitting a chief: a new silverpickup truck, a computer, a printer. Also, a washingmachine and a vacuum cleaner. Since then, however, she has endeared herself to much ofthe tribe by balancing calls for change with respect fortradition. Some men - and women - suggest quietly that sheis too outspoken in defense of women's rights. But more sayshe has proved herself with her straightforward
 manner,accessibility and focus on the problems of Ramotswa'syouth. "She is doing very well," said Nfana Botlhole, a 38-yearold unemployed man who came to a recent tribal meeting in alaborer's blue work pants. "Her brother wasn't around verymuch. Now since she came in, you can see what is going on.The youth have easy access to her and they listen to her." At times, she has turned upside-down the notion of what atraditional leader thinks. It is hard to imagine a malechief talking, as she does in interviews, about abuseagainst women. Her own husband beat her. "So I divorced in1978," she said. "I can't stand violence. I didn't want tobe abused." Or about sexual rights: "I believe women have the power. Itis very easy for us to say no to sex." Or about H.I.V.: "To the men I am saying, please, everybodyknows the scourge that is ravaging this country. Let's stopinfecting everybody around." But on
 other issues, her positions are as rooted intradition as any male chief's. She supports caning as aform of punishment in the kgotla, the red brick and tileopen-air shelter that serves as the meeting place for thetribe of 33,000. "It happens all the time," she said. She doesn't approve of jeans-clad women in the kgotla. Orcondoms in the schools. Nor does she see the need forpeople infected with H.I.V. to declare their 

Re: [Ugnet] Re: Endurance running is in east Africans' genes

2004-12-01 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Hahaha LOL LOL LOL Matek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This then explains the position of the racistin Europe and America who often claim that an African can pretty outrun a deer and catch it with bear hands...and Mbhu that is all this african know how to do well!

MKmusamize ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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The long-distance running prowess of Ethiopia’s elite male athletes is partly dictated by their genes.
Researchers have established that such athletes are more likely to have certain variants of four Y chromosome genes compared with other Ethiopians. No one knows what the genes do, or how influential they are, but they are the first to be linked to east Africans’ outstanding ability for endurance events. 
Ethiopian and Kenyan athletes have run 37 of the 40 fastest times recorded over 10,000 metres. Alongside dedication and training, there is no doubt that social and geographic factors, such as having to run long distances to school at high altitudes, contribute to their success.
To find out if genes also play a significant role, Yannis Pitsiladis of the International Centre for East African Running Science at the University of Glasgow in the UK and colleagues studied the Y chromosomes of elite athletes, city dwellers and other non-athletes from the Ethiopian region of Arsi, where many runners originate. 
Four gene variants were clearly more common among the athletes, and one was less common. No mutation was unique to the athletes, however, suggesting that it is the combination of certain gene types that makes the difference. 
“The athletes do show differences from the population as a whole,” says Pitsiladis. “But they are not so overwhelming to say that this is the reason for their success,” he says, and no single gene for endurance running emerged.
The team, whose results will be published in Human Genetics, are hoping to bolster their findings by analysing Kenyan endurance athletes in the same way.




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Re: [Ugnet] Bush to nominate Rice to replace Powell ..WOW now that is a smart political Move!

2004-11-15 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Musamize Ssema:

Europeans were already staying away from the table during Colin Powell's time. Rice is not responsible for that. Colin failed, let's admit it's hard to get foreign leaders (European, Asian, African, S. Americans, etc) on the table with such policies as Bush's. 

Secretaries of State make no difference. The real problem is Bush's foreign policies.


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She'll be an unmitigated disaster on the wold diplomatic scene. She simply doesn't have the the credentials or the personality to encourage Europeans back to the table.Matek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 



 
  
 




Bush to nominate Rice to replace Powell (16/11/2004)





WASHINGTON (AFP) US President George W. Bush plans to nominate his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, as secretary of state in place of Colin Powell after his resignation, two senior administration officials said.Bush plans to turn to deputy national security adviser Stephen Hadley to replace Rice, who is one of the president's closest advisers and confidants, said the officials, who spoke on condition they not be named.Rice, who was 50 on Sunday, had been tipped as a leading contender to succeed Powell, who resigned in a letter to Bush sent Friday but is not expected to leave his post until his replacement wins Senate confirmation.A third official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said Bush could announce the move as early as Tuesday.Hadley, who advised Bush on foreign policy during the 2000 campaign and took office in January 2001, was also the favorite
  to take
 over as national security adviser.Rice and Hadley held foreign policy posts under Bush's father, former president George Bush.A fluent Russian speaker and expert in arms control and the Soviet Union, Rice prepped Bush the elder for nuclear summits with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev.Hadley served as the Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy, and was responsible for defense policy toward NATO and Western Europe, on nuclear weapons and ballistic missile defense, and arms control.Recently, Rice took fire from opposition Democrats over a series of speeches she made in the run up to the November 2 election, most of them in crucial battleground states.
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[Ugnet] Re: Kisanja cash records stolen — paymaster

2004-11-07 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Hahahah hahahaha hahahahaha at"They stole my yellow book" hahahahahMatek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Kisanja cash records stolen — paymaster By Mwanguhya Charles Mpagi Nov 7, 2004




MP Byenkya returns third term money
KAMPALA — Ms Anifa Kawoya says a register she kept of Movement MPs who picked up Shs5 million each to support a third term for President Museveni has been stolen. 
"They stole my yellow book," said Kawoya, the Sembabule Woman MP, who paid out money at Mosa Courts Apartments nearly two weeks ago. "I had my yellow book with a long list of all my kisanja [pro-third term] people and they stole it at Parliament. 
I don't know who stole it. I raised the matter at Parliament, but I could not recover it. I have bought another yellow book and I keep it with my list under my armpit."She lashed out at MPs crying foul over the distribution of the kisanja money. She particularly attacked Mr Kibale Wambi (Budadiri County East, Sironko) who on Monday narrated in detail how ministers lined up to sign for their share at the apartments on Nile Avenue.
"All Wambi said is trash. Saying that I was swimming in a sack of money? How could he tell that the hand he saw coming from under the table was my hand?" she said.
Kawoya questioned the morality of Wambi and Mr Theodore Ssekikubo (Lwemiyaga) who accused the NRM of wasting taxpayer money to buy off MPs to support the third term. 
She wondered why they chose to line up for the money and then turned around and claimed they were being bribed.
"It beats my understanding that somebody goes to a meeting where he has not been invited, picks a voucher and then he is told he is not on the list and then returns to say he could not accept a bribe. What is the logic?" she said.
Kawoya is among three major distributors of the kisanja mobilisation cash along with Minister for Parliamentary Affairs Hope Mwesigye, and Movement Parliamentary Caucus Chairman Charles Bakkabulindi. "It is time for mobilisation. That money shows that I am doing my mobilisation. I am not a woman who courts the press. I am a woman of action," she boasted.
Meanwhile, Mr Bakkabulindi dismissed earlier reports that different amounts were paid to ministers and ordinary MPs. 
"I was the one in charge and it is not true that ministers got a different figure. To make sure that the money was the same, we even printed the figure. The MPs could only write in the constituency and name," he said.
He also dismissed reports that the money was drawn from Bank of Uganda.In another development, Hoima woman MP Beatrice Byenkya returned Shs 5 million kisanja money to the Movement Caucus officials who distributed it.
Twice Ms Byenkya declined to comment on the matter we reached her. "I am not talking," she said. I am not ready to divulge anything."
Sources said, however, that the MP returned the money last Wednesday because she could not have it and live with a clear conscience. She reportedly said that much as she supports the third term, she does not need to be bribed for it.
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[Ugnet] Re: The Chronicles of Riddick (DVD/VHS) - out on Nov 17th

2004-11-05 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Okello,

Why would I have to rape a man? 


Zakoomu M.

=okello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Do you rape your husband sometime?

I hope you are a good wife.


Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Okello:

You "love" my jackass loveonline? Huh! I am suprised, I thought you and others hated it. Because that's whatyou peopledo anyway, is to hate others' contributions on the net. Suprised  shockedI am, and wondering what you love about my "jackass" loveonline.

Well, craving for a one-night stand is not a new phenomenon in this world full of people. It's a new experience, a new suprise. Great things happen like that. It happens to people everyday. You mean, you didn't know? If you have never had one, please do if you want. There's nothing wrong with it if two people agree to it and want it.

Yeah, Iwish I wouldhave a one-night stand with Vin Diesel. Why not? I have a severe crush on him. He is hot. He is talented. He is intelligent. He seems like a good person. I predict he is a lion in bed. I dream of that lion attacking me and tearing me upin surrender, release,andembraceof mourns of pleasure. I'd be damned to refuse that. I do not have a legitimate reason forrefusing a one-night stand with him if he wants and I am very much willing. We are both adults. We'd know what's going on.

In truth, if I would have it my way. He would be theguy I would like to sperminate me. Hahaha, LOL. And just let him usethat gun of his to sperm-shoot my eggs as such as he wants, until he knocked them out. Hahahaha, LOL.I would not have it any other way, that would beheaven for me. It does not get any better than that. 

Yeah man, having a one-night stand with Vin Diesel would be an unforgettable moment in my life. I would treasure those memories until I die. Maybe, Ican forget other things about him, but not what he is capable of arrousing in me. I see it in his eyes. My imagination is indeed running deep. 

I am a Vin Diesel die-hard fan beyond his movies. But that's what he needs anyway, he can't always talk about movies and acting only. He needs something else to preoccupy him. I would love to help him kill time and preoccupy him with me, if he wants.That would be my pleasure. 



Zakoomu M.

=okello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


I love this jackass loveonline. It can spur imagination real deep. Craving one night stand eh? 

Pious



	
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[Ugnet] The Chronicles of Riddick (DVD/VHS) - out on Nov 17th

2004-11-04 Thread Rehema Mukooza


riddick672001,

It's all about Vin Diesel. The man we are all dying for. I wish I could have a one-night stand with him. I wish, I wish. Oh God, how I would enjoy every moment of that and re-play back every scene in my head. 

I wonder how big or small Vin's downstairs is. Can someone tell us, please? Maybe, someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who was with Vin intimately in the past. Vin is not a virgin. He is not married either. He's had a string of past girlfriends. The dude claims thathe has no present girlfriend. He must be in lots of one-night stands then. You know, those things are good sometimes. Especially when one is not in any sort of relationship. 

There has got to be someones out there who have beenwithhim (past  present). Someone tell us. Hahahah, LOL. I love talking such crap. Such crap is good for the mind sometimes. We loosen up and talk a lil' bit dirrrty.

I own every good Vin movie ( Fast  Furious, Pitch Black, Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Fury, A Man Apart, XXX ). I have already pre-ordered The Chronicles of Riddick. I am waiting for Vin's The Pacifier movie to come out in theatres in 2005.

A Man Apart was good. My favorite part was when he told the stripper to get off his lap. That man is crazy and has a dark side to him. He is one of those you don't have any business F-ing with. There is an animalside to him. Vin can be furious and I think that movie gave him achannel to express that side of him. He also showed some love with his wife. The most hot/sexiest scene was when he was in his pajamas gun-fighting off the assassins at night, in his house. I loved, loved, loved it. The man is so hot in his pajamas. Better than he was in XXX's pajamas. I love the scenes where he hits the men, especially the last man (in his pajamas). That was very athletic, hot, intense with emotions, anger, and in line with the movie. Just what I love to see. Hahahah, LOL.

However, Knock Around Guys lacked something. I did not buy it. Sorry folks! Vin's acting was great in that movie, but the movie still lacked something. I didn't dig it enough to buy it. I love the man's acting, personality, and presence. Anyways, what can I say? He is HOT. It's a gift. Lord help him.

Hey Ladies!

Vin said that he has not found that special someone. He wants an Independent Woman (with her game one). Hahaha, LOL the man is full of it. He does not want Clingy Women. If you are one of those who can not stand on your feet without a manby your side, pop off! He is not the guy for you. If you are a b--ch, forget him! The man said he wants a Cool Girl. He wants someone who can hang out with his boys! He wants someone who will get along with his mama and daddy, sister and brother. LOL, hahah. Oh poor Vin! No wonder Mrs. Right has not arrived yet. These girls around are not interested in his family and friends. They want only him (selfish Bs).

But ladies don't give up. Keep your fingures crossed. One day you might run into Vin somewhere and kick it off from there. One thing though, he should look outside hollywood. Love does not live in hollywood anymore. The Maria Manoues, the Michelle Rodriguezs, the Summer Altis, and rest are all in the waiting to catch a hunk like him. Just watch how model/actress Jazelle caught Leonardo deCaprio. Just watch that. Justin Timberlake with Cameroon Diaz. Who thinks such "come togethers" will last?

Vin needs to look outside hollywood. Just like Britney Spears did. Britney has found true love in her dancer (hahaha, LOL) and dropped other celebrities she was secretly dating. Look at JLO, she had to go outside that place to find Mark Antony. Otherwise, she would be stuck with the Bens and P. Diddys of that place. Sometimes, celebrities have to date outside their celebrity rings to find the Mr.(s) and Mrs. Rights for them.

Ladies,
If you are not a celebrity justhope thatyou run into him someday, somewhere. You might have a chance. 

As for me, I would lovehim to sign every movie of his I own. I would love to have his original signatures on my DVDs. I am tired of duplicate autographs. I want the real one. And I would also love to have a photo taken with him. I would proudly hang that photo on the wall. It would be too precious, too goodto hide in a photo album. I would love to have lunch or dinner with him. I would love to have atleast a total of3hrs chat with him. Talking to him for five minutes will not be enough, not for me. After that, I would thank him for making my dream come true, and we would each move on with our lives. That would be my dream date with my favorite actor. Let's keep dreaming. Afterall, dreams come true.



Zakoomu M.

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im from richmond ,indiana its close to ohio line .ive live here all of my life .thanks for making me feel so welcome to this group . its coool!!!

	
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Re: [Ugnet] Nursery Boarding School!\ ssenyange

2004-11-04 Thread Rehema Mukooza
SeboSsenya,

Ossenya, ossenya: Yyi musajja, Ossenya nkku oba nnyange? Ssenyange! Hahahaha.

I've been good. I've been away for a while. Thanks for your welcome! I appreciate that. It seems you are the only person who truely likes me here. You are happy to see me back. I am honoured, really. Kannesuneko, I'm very happy.

Honey moon ejja, sooner or later. Hahaha, LOL. You are a funny guy. Do you know that? I'll be around and I hope to see more of you.


Zakoomu M.

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ssenya nyange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mky Mukooza,Where have been? Were you on honey moon? Welcome back on the net.Ssenya-From: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Nursery Boarding School!Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:25:04 -0700 (PDT)Musajja,I agree with you. This is crazy! A Nursery Boarding school is beyond belief!At what point will this kind of money thirst lead people? There is no way a nursery/kindergarden boarding school can be in the interest of the child's learning and educational ability.I myself went to a secondary boarding school and I must say that it was the worst decision my parents ma
 de for
 me. At first I liked the idea because I wanted to experience boarding life. I missed my parents, siblings, home, and homefriends like crazy! And when it came time to come back home, I had to re-learn how to interact with my own parents, siblings, and homefriends.  It was a weird feeling.I don't know about other people's feelings. But for me, whenever I took long to interact with certain people, I had to re-learn how to live with them again. I mean, my parents, siblings, and homefriends were kind-of-sort-of like halfway strangers in my perspective. There was some kind of emotional distance between them and I. It created some kind of emotional attachment disorder which I felt (that weird feeling).The good thing is that when I came back home for a very good amount, long period of time, I caught up with parents, siblings, and homefriends - we bonded
 again.To hell with boarding schools for young kids in nursery/kindergarden. These children need their parents 24/7 for emotional security and psychological development before anything else. If my parents took me (if I was child that young) to a nursery boarding school, I would die! Hahahah, oh really? Would I? I don't know. But I would be a very confused child. As a child: give me my parents or give me death!Rehema M.d b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Ugandans ae about to migrate to Mars - imagine a Nursery Boarding school. May be I never understood what I learnt from School - you take a baby to a nursery boarding school - goodness.bwanika.and thisThe school’s extra-curriculum offers include music, dance and drama, spor
 ts
 and games, swimming, brass band, digital television (DSTV) connections and a fully equipped disco machine to entertain the children.-Pioneering nursery, primary boarding schools in UgandaMovers  Shakers: By Ibrahim KasitaOct 26 - Nov 2, 2004Basic education providers must not be taxed at the same high level as commercial institutions, says Mr Vincent Matovu, proprietor and headmaster of Vincentalex Boarding Primary School.The school is located in Mukono, 20Km from Kampala City centre on the just off the Jinja-Kampala highway.“We provide social services to the people in order to eradicate illiteracy. But we are taxed as if we are commercialising the education services,” he says. “Government should scrutinise business oriented schools and genuine education providers before hiking tax on us.”F
 or the
 last 20 years, since he opened the first nursery boarding school in Uganda. Matovu has been involved in private education in Mukono District.“I started my school to experiment the new approach of teaching young kids,” he says.”At that time, children were taken for granted and taught forcefully — something which could not generate interest in learning.”Teaching young ones need logic. They require freedom to generate interest in learning and guide them what is good for them, he further says.Matovu, who is a professional teacher specialising in child psychology, was a teacher in Kisaasi Primary School and Namiryango Juniour Boys School, before his enterpreneurial instincts took better of him.“I first rented land in Seeta in 1984 to set up the nursery school for four years before acquiring land in Mukono,” he recalls.Pioneering nursery, primary boarding
  schools
 in UgandaAt the time of setting up the nursery school several areas around Kampala, especially Mukono were insecure because of the intensive civil strife in the country. Ironically this is one of the reasons that prompted Matovu.“Children are innocent,” he says. “In fact it is because of insecurity that I started a school to provide them with 

[Ugnet] Re: The Chronicles of Riddick (DVD/VHS) - out on Nov 17th\ okello

2004-11-04 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Okello:

You "love" my jackass loveonline? Huh! I am suprised, I thought you and others hated it. Because that's whatyou peopledo anyway, is to hate others' contributions on the net. Suprised  shockedI am, and wondering what you love about my "jackass" loveonline.

Well, craving for a one-night stand is not a new phenomenon in this world full of people. It's a new experience, a new suprise. Great things happen like that. It happens to people everyday. You mean, you didn't know? If you have never had one, please do if you want. There's nothing wrong with it if two people agree to it and want it.

Yeah, Iwish I wouldhave a one-night stand with Vin Diesel. Why not? I have a severe crush on him. He is hot. He is talented. He is intelligent. He seems like a good person. I predict he is a lion in bed. I dream of that lion attacking me and tearing me upin surrender, release,andembraceof mourns of pleasure. I'd be damned to refuse that. I do not have a legitimate reason forrefusing a one-night stand with him if he wants and I am very much willing. We are both adults. We'd know what's going on.

In truth, if I would have it my way. He would be theguy I would like to sperminate me. Hahaha, LOL. And just let him usethat gun of his to sperm-shoot my eggs as such as he wants, until he knocked them out. Hahahaha, LOL.I would not have it any other way, that would beheaven for me. It does not get any better than that. 

Yeah man, having a one-night stand with Vin Diesel would be an unforgettable moment in my life. I would treasure those memories until I die. Maybe, Ican forget other things about him, but not what he is capable of arrousing in me. I see it in his eyes. My imagination is indeed running deep. 

I am a Vin Diesel die-hard fan beyond his movies. But that's what he needs anyway, he can't always talk about movies and acting only. He needs something else to preoccupy him. I would love to help him kill time and preoccupy him with me, if he wants.That would be my pleasure. 



Zakoomu M.

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I love this jackass loveonline. It can spur imagination real deep. Craving one night stand eh? 

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[Ugnet] Re: Uganda's fallen child rebels

2004-11-03 Thread Rehema Mukooza
How can it be stopped? Give some ideas.Matek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The fact of the matter is that Yoweri Museveni is killing many many acholi kids..and claiming that he is killing LRA "Rebels". If anything the many killings for almost 20 years have not really detered or reduced "LRA capabilities." In anycase, the more Kidds Yoweri Museveni's Military kills, the MORE acholi kidds "KONY" ends up abducting and train to become new groups of "rebels"It sort of goes like this :.Museveni Troops kills.."kpony" abducts..Museveni Kills "Kony" ..Museveni kills KONY abducts...tand the ultimate losser is really the Acholi specifically and the and the people of Uganda generally. This Yoweri Museveni created Insanity has to be stoped ..somehow.


Matek

makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




This Kirrings of small children and women by the UPDF/NRA is a shame , criminal and must be stopped by all means possible!
If this is what our army does in our names, killing children already abducted ,and then it boosts of fighting rebels and defeating them , then i think this army hasn't learnt anything from its Luwero days when it would kill innocent peasants calling them "Bimpingamizis"!
M7 should abandon his bloodthirsty method of forcing himself onto our people!
Let him try the civilized way of doing politics. This one is much too crude and costly for my taste!

Gook 

"Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom

Original Message Follows From: Matek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ugnet] Uganda's fallen child rebels Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 20:58:58 -0800 (PST) . Uganda's fallen child rebels By Callum Macrae Film-maker and journalist There are few things which can prepare you for the terrible reality of witnessing a "military victory" against the kidnapped child soldiers of Uganda's Lord's Resistance Army (LRA). A soldier nursing a survivor, said to be the child of Vincent Otti I was in the northern town of Gulu, filming for the forthcoming BBC2 special, A Day of War, when Lt Col Charles Otema, the incongruously genial head of military intelligence for the area, contacted me. He said government troops from the Uganda People's Defence Force (UPDF) had scored a "signifi
  cant
 blow" against the rebels. He told me the LRA's second-in-command, Vincent Otti, had been injured in the battle, 55 rebels had been killed - and that, as we spoke, government forces were pursuing the rest through the bush. He invited me to come and see the evidence for myself. Massacre In a tiny military helicopter, we flew 85 kilometres north-west, towards the Sudanese border. Northern Uganda is one of the most fertile places in Africa - it could feed the whole of Uganda and more. The UPDF has been fighting a long war against the rebels But as we buzzed through the heat we could see the land below, hatched with the marks of abandoned fields and villages. This land has been terrorised by the LRA. One and a half million people have been displaced by the war and live today in cramped and isolated refugee camps, dependent on heavily-armed convoys from the World Food Programme. Even there they are not safe. Just two months ago, as m
 any as
 300 were killed when the LRA raided just one such camp, Barlonyo, near Lira. Terrible initiation Once the LRA had a programme of sorts shy; a combination of Christian fundamentalism and political opposition to the government of President Yoweri Museveni. The Barlonyo camp was destroyed in a rebel attack Today it is as much a cult as an army, preying on the mainly Acholi people of the north, the very people it claims to represent. The LRA survives by raiding villages and camps, stealing food and provisions, and abducting people shy; mainly women and children. The older ones they will use as porters till they have no further use of them. The younger ones shy; the 10, 11 and 12-year-olds, they will keep. Not uncommonly they will steal perhaps three kids from the same family and then, in the bush, force the youngest two to kill the oldest one. Thus they are initiated into their new life as rebels. Bound to the ca use by a te
 rrible
 cocktail of guilt, fear and violence. Corpses in the undergrowth Our helicopter touched down in a village which had been taken over as a forward base for the Ugandan army. The helicopter could get no nearer and we had to cover the remaining four kilometres on foot. And then we arrived at the site of the battle. It was a scene of terrible carnage. Dozens of bodies lay scattered around the undergrowth where they had fallen. The first body I saw, the first of these 55 dead rebels, was about four-years-old. Almost certainly he had been born in captivity - probably, like so many others, the product of a forced marriage between an older rebel and a young abducted girl. Some 10 metres away, just such a girl lay, dead, stripped to the waist. She may have been the child's mother. Rag-tag force 

Re: [Ugnet] Papa Wemba back in Court

2004-10-26 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Hahahahah, oh my goodness! What's up withPapa Wemba making a quick buck?

We enjoyed his music, and we still love him. I have too many memories of his music videos playing on UTV. We are behind him and support him. What's wrong with smuggling people to foreign lands for a better future? DRC is bleeding to death!

Ed thanks for the news.Ed Kironde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









 





Wemba on French smuggling charge







Wemba's unique music brought him a global following 
One of Africa's biggest music stars, the Congolese singer Papa Wemba, is due to appear in court in France charged with aiding illegal immigration. 
Papa Wemba is suspected of having received payment to procure visas for Congolese nationals who entered France claiming to be his road crew members. 
The maximum sentence if he found guilty is 10 years in jail and a fine of 750,000 euros ($1m). 
Papa Wemba, 55, faces similar charges in Belgium, where he holds citizenship. 
The singer, whose real name is Jules Shungu Wembadio Pene Kikumba, was arrested in Paris in February last year. 
'Humanitarian concern' 
According to the French authorities, would-be immigrants from DR Congo paid him $4,500 in return for which he told the French embassy in Kinshasa that they were members of his band or road crew. 
French officials became suspicious in 2000 when some 200 people formed his musical entourage, many of them turning up to the airport without instruments. 
Papa Wemba admitted receiving money from the would-be immigrants but said he was acting out of humanitarian concern. 
He was granted conditional release after four months in prison during which he said he underwent a religious conversion. 
He has since been allowed to leave France to give concerts. 
He is expected though to be in court in person in the Paris suburb of Bobigny. 
A flamboyant figure who has been dubbed the king of "rumba rock", Papa Wemba was already a hugely popular performer in the then Zaire before the fashion for African and world music brought him fame in Europe and the US. 
He is also renowned as the moving spirit behind a cult movement known as "the Sapeurs" whose members, young men, spend huge amounts of money on designer clothes. 
Paris is one of the cult's centres and many of Papa Wemba's supporters are expected to attend the trial. 








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Re: [Ugnet] Nursery Boarding School!

2004-10-26 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Musajja,

I agree with you. This is crazy! A Nursery Boarding school is beyond belief! 
At what point will this kind of money thirst lead people? There is no way a nursery/kindergarden boarding school can be in the interest of the child's learning and educational ability.

I myself went to a secondary boarding school and I must say that it was the worst decision my parents made for me. At first I liked the idea because I wanted to experience boarding life. I missed my parents, siblings,home, and homefriends like crazy! And when it came time to come back home, I had to re-learn how to interact with my own parents, siblings,and homefriends. It was a weird feeling. 

I don't know about other people's feelings. But for me, whenever I took long to interact with certain people, I had to re-learn how tolive with them again. I mean, my parents, siblings, and homefriends were kind-of-sort-of like halfway strangers in my perspective. There was some kind of emotional distance between them and I. It created some kind of emotional attachment disorderwhichI felt (that weird feeling).

The good thing is that when I came back home for a very good amount, long period of time, I caught up with parents, siblings, and homefriends - we bonded again. 

To hell with boarding schools for young kids in nursery/kindergarden. These children need their parents 24/7 for emotional security and psychological development before anything else. If my parents took me (if I was child that young) to a nursery boarding school, I would die! Hahahah, oh really? Would I? I don't know. But I would be a very confused child. As a child: give me my parents or give me death!



Rehema M.


d b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ugandans ae about to migrate to Mars - imagine a Nursery Boarding school. May be I never understood what I learnt from School - you take a baby to a nursery boarding school - goodness.bwanika.and this The school’s extra-curriculum offers include music, dance and drama, sports and games, swimming, brass band, digital television (DSTV) connections and a fully equipped disco machine to entertain the children.-Pioneering nursery, primary boarding schools in UgandaMovers  Shakers: By Ibrahim KasitaOct 26 - Nov 2, 2004Basic education providers must not be taxed at the same high level as commercial institutions, says Mr Vincent Matovu, proprietor and headmaster of Vincentalex Boarding Primary School.The school is located in Mukono, 20Km from Kampala City centre on the just off the Jinja-Kampala highw
 ay.
 “We provide social services to the people in order to eradicate illiteracy. But we are taxed as if we are commercialising the education services,” he says. “Government should scrutinise business oriented schools and genuine education providers before hiking tax on us.”For the last 20 years, since he opened the first nursery boarding school in Uganda. Matovu has been involved in private education in Mukono District.“I started my school to experiment the new approach of teaching young kids,” he says.”At that time, children were taken for granted and taught forcefully — something which could not generate interest in learning.”Teaching young ones need logic. They require freedom to generate interest in learning and guide them what is good for them, he further says.Matovu, who is a professional teacher specialising in child psychology, was a teacher in Kisaasi Primary School and Namiryango Juniour Boys School, before his enterpreneurial instincts t
 ook
 better of him.“I first rented land in Seeta in 1984 to set up the nursery school for four years before acquiring land in Mukono,” he recalls. Pioneering nursery, primary boarding schools in Uganda At the time of setting up the nursery school several areas around Kampala, especially Mukono were insecure because of the intensive civil strife in the country. Ironically this is one of the reasons that prompted Matovu.“Children are innocent,” he says. “In fact it is because of insecurity that I started a school to provide them with the security as their parents were hiding from the enemies.” Why did he choose Mukono? I bought a piece of land suitable for constructing a school, he replies.Vincentalex is now a fully-fledged boarding nursery and primary school. It has both day and boarding students with varying school fees. Nursery to primary three students pay Shs270,000 (boarding) and Shs170,000 (day) per term. Primary four and primary s
 even
 students pay Shs330,000 (boarding) and Shs230,000 (day) per term. Matovu is worried about the infiltration of rich people into the field of primary education who aim at making profit. Such people are not always teaching professionals.And their involvement has lowered the standard of education and led to an increase of violent strikes against schools.Matovu calls such people “multiplication table planners.”He says, “With the liberalisation of the education sector, standards of 

Re: [Ugnet] Nursery Boarding School!

2004-10-26 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Musajja,

I agree with you. This is crazy! A Nursery Boarding school is beyond belief! 
At what point will this kind of money thirst lead people? There is no way a nursery/kindergarden boarding school can be in the interest of the child's learning and educational ability.

I myself went to a secondary boarding school and I must say that it was the worst decision my parents made for me. At first I liked the idea because I wanted to experience boarding life. I missed my parents, siblings,home, and homefriends like crazy! And when it came time to come back home, I had to re-learn how to interact with my own parents, siblings,and homefriends. It was a weird feeling. 

I don't know about other people's feelings. But for me, whenever I took long to interact with certain people, I had to re-learn how tolive with them again. I mean, my parents, siblings, and homefriends were kind-of-sort-of like halfway strangers in my perspective. There was some kind of emotional distance between them and I. It created some kind of emotional attachment disorderwhichI felt (that weird feeling).

The good thing is that when I came back home for a very good amount, long period of time, I caught up with parents, siblings, and homefriends - we bonded again. 

To hell with boarding schools for young kids in nursery/kindergarden. These children need their parents 24/7 for emotional security and psychological development before anything else. If my parents took me (if I was child that young) to a nursery boarding school, I would die! Hahahah, oh really? Would I? I don't know. But I would be a very confused child. As a child: give me my parents or give me death!



Rehema M.


d b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ugandans ae about to migrate to Mars - imagine a Nursery Boarding school. May be I never understood what I learnt from School - you take a baby to a nursery boarding school - goodness.bwanika.and this The school’s extra-curriculum offers include music, dance and drama, sports and games, swimming, brass band, digital television (DSTV) connections and a fully equipped disco machine to entertain the children.-Pioneering nursery, primary boarding schools in UgandaMovers  Shakers: By Ibrahim KasitaOct 26 - Nov 2, 2004Basic education providers must not be taxed at the same high level as commercial institutions, says Mr Vincent Matovu, proprietor and headmaster of Vincentalex Boarding Primary School.The school is located in Mukono, 20Km from Kampala City centre on the just off the Jinja-Kampala highw
 ay.
 “We provide social services to the people in order to eradicate illiteracy. But we are taxed as if we are commercialising the education services,” he says. “Government should scrutinise business oriented schools and genuine education providers before hiking tax on us.”For the last 20 years, since he opened the first nursery boarding school in Uganda. Matovu has been involved in private education in Mukono District.“I started my school to experiment the new approach of teaching young kids,” he says.”At that time, children were taken for granted and taught forcefully — something which could not generate interest in learning.”Teaching young ones need logic. They require freedom to generate interest in learning and guide them what is good for them, he further says.Matovu, who is a professional teacher specialising in child psychology, was a teacher in Kisaasi Primary School and Namiryango Juniour Boys School, before his enterpreneurial instincts t
 ook
 better of him.“I first rented land in Seeta in 1984 to set up the nursery school for four years before acquiring land in Mukono,” he recalls. Pioneering nursery, primary boarding schools in Uganda At the time of setting up the nursery school several areas around Kampala, especially Mukono were insecure because of the intensive civil strife in the country. Ironically this is one of the reasons that prompted Matovu.“Children are innocent,” he says. “In fact it is because of insecurity that I started a school to provide them with the security as their parents were hiding from the enemies.” Why did he choose Mukono? I bought a piece of land suitable for constructing a school, he replies.Vincentalex is now a fully-fledged boarding nursery and primary school. It has both day and boarding students with varying school fees. Nursery to primary three students pay Shs270,000 (boarding) and Shs170,000 (day) per term. Primary four and primary s
 even
 students pay Shs330,000 (boarding) and Shs230,000 (day) per term. Matovu is worried about the infiltration of rich people into the field of primary education who aim at making profit. Such people are not always teaching professionals.And their involvement has lowered the standard of education and led to an increase of violent strikes against schools.Matovu calls such people “multiplication table planners.”He says, “With the liberalisation of the education sector, standards of 

[Ugnet] Re: Fwd: Can the President survive the sting and sentiment ofMengo?

2004-10-06 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Me, nze I like the Kabaka. Count me, add me to the list of those who like/love the Kabaka.Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Nume

How many Baganda like Kabaka?


Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

- Original Message - 
From: Simon Nume 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Fwd: Can the President survive the sting and sentiment ofMengo?

Musamize

Where does the Monitor get these fools who write such articles from ?
In another Monitor article of the same day Ssemakula Kiwanuka is quoted as saying that the elite Baganda are not behind the Kabaka.Now thiswriter tells us that the rural Baganda are behind M7 not the Kabaka, since he M7 toured the villages and came to that conclusion.

Copying from Mutufu; hehehehe

Nume
musamize ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Note: forwarded message attached.


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Can the President survive the sting and sentiment of Mengo?INSIDE WHITE PAPER: By Charles EtukuriSept 29 - Oct 06, 2004The Cabinet White Paper recommendation that cultural leaders be subjected to Parliamentary control has left many gasping in disbelief - and others seething with rage - as it means that for the first time, a popularly elected legislature could have powers to unseat one born a king. The move specificall
  y
 targets Buganda where the Kabakaship is regarded as sacred and untouchable.The Mengo government had actually calculated that by bringing their demands for federal status at the time when the 2006 elections were nearing would have brought the government to its knees. The mathematics of Mengo was the federo demands could be a trade off with the third term project.Mengo partially succeeded in as far as it was able to bring the President to meeting them…and that was all. The threats and arm-twisting that characterised the talks suggest there was no genuineness in the talks; Mengo pushing with threats and Government content to delay and lengthen the talking while promising nothing really substantial. 
Mengo remained entirely conservative and fixed, asking for federal status, Kampala city and the famous 9000 square miles. Government gave out a few concessions like Mengo municipality instead of Kampala, a regional tier instead of federal status and two councils instead of one Kabaka-appointed Lukiiko. With this position President Museveni was aided in that it partially portrayed him as the genuine party with the talks and because of the conservativeness of Mengo he opted to instead to meet his people who speak his "Ekisanja" language the Local council, who in effect entirely endorsed his view in amidst of the talks with Mengo. The failed talks have been followed by this latest bombshell that would have the effect of not only trimming the Kabaka's already short wings; but could also see him shown the door by what is in Luganda speak, the bakopi or peasantry. This is arguably a classic ba
  rometer
 of the President's confidence: that he has a broader assured support outside Buganda and a fair one in Buganda that would be enough to make him win an election.President Museveni has consistently been on the mark as saying that he can as well win the elections without Buganda apparently having toured the countryside the President is assured there is rural support to back him up. The President's support seems to lie in the peasants right from the bush days to date. It's on these that his hopes for Ekisanja rest, not the elite, ultra-conservatives in Mengo. The federo demands had an effect of challenging his peasantry support and bowing down to demands like the 9000 square miles could in effect never have been acceptable to him.Within urban Buganda Museveni often fares badly. But in the villages he is just a notch lower than a demi-god. Addressing the nation on star FM recently, the President said he was aware that Mengo didn't support him even in 1996 and 2001
  ; but
 pointed out that he wasn't scared. Museveni has the political support across Buganda and this political support is in the hands of local council officials whom he preferred to meet, Resident District Commissioners, among other officials within the Local Government system who are in touch with the demands of the people. Mengo establishment relies basically on cultural sentiments as basis of selling their conservative federal ideals. However it appears that Museveni has the upper hand now. Buganda has for long used cultural sentiments effectively to rally support against any body that has threatened the existence 

Re: [Ugnet] Cultural leaders bitter over federo - Monitor - 23/9/2004

2004-09-23 Thread Rehema Mukooza
The speaker of Tooro Kingdom, Rev Kloris Kyarimpa said he was “100% sure” that Buganda was responsible fpr the proposal about unseating Kings. 

The speaker of Tooro Kingdom is not serious with his words. The Tooro Queen Mother, Best Kemigisa recently went public with her partisan politics. She told Ugandans (especially Tooro residents and descendants) to support Museveni's third term and the Movement Politicial Organization/Party.

He said, “The constitution spells out well that Kings are outside politics in the country, but Buganda crossed the line and their agitation has made the government take that position. ”

The Tooro Kingdom recently preledged to support the Movement Political Organization/Party - Is Tooro Kingdom outside partisan politics?

Buganda's agitation for Federo is not partisan politics but about developmental governance of the cultural-geographical region of Buganda. Tooro should not confuse development with partisan politics. Buganda is pushing for development through Federo and the Mengo gov't belongs to no political party; not even the Movement that seems to take Tooro Kingdom under its arm-pits.

Buganda/Mengo gov't belows to no political party. It can only work with gov'ts in power to help speed develop through many ways. E.g. immunization, health, education, and encouragement for a better system of governance (Federo) that will bring about change. Mengo cannot help with problems (immunization, health, education, etc) without tuckling the root causes of the probelems (a Unitary system). It's like trying to cure a disease you do not understand,yet the sooner you understand the cause of the disease, the better chancesyou havetofind a cure for it.

It's plain sense, Mengohas come up with a cure for the disease in our system of governance that has led to poor everything in the country. The cure is none other than Federo for the entire country. 

Mengo is not against Museveni. Mengo cares about Buganda and Uganda atlarge and that is why Mengo is pushing for Federo. Maybe Mengo cares more for Uganda than Mu7 does; that's why he is angry with Mengo. It's not Mengo's blame that they care about our country. It's Mu7 to blame for not caring about our country.

The man has kept our brothers and sisters in concentration camps for 18 years with massacres cared out on them that has left 1000s of lives lost. He refused to declare the North a disaster area for international intervention. More lives are lost each day that comes, under his watch. The problem is not cultural leaders who care so much about their people to a point of "violeting" the constitution in the name of a better life for their subjects. The problem is Museveni who does not care for our country.

He has proposed to grab peasants' property for "investment" but not for public use. Why is the gov't looking for investments when it is selling its own property (privatisation)? Any right-thinking Ugandan would wonder if Museveni cares about the country he is leading. The man is damn, stupid, mentally infit to lead Uganda. NO third term for him.



Zakoomu M.


===Omar Kezimbira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Cultural leaders bitter over federo By Rosebell Kagumire Sept 23, 2004 - Monitor




KAMPALA - Cultural leaders have blamed Buganda for the Cabinet proposal presented this week that would give MPs the power to unseat traditional leaders.
Leaders from Bunyoro, Tooro and Teso claim that Buganda’s demand for federo has provoked government officials into suggesting a new governmental reorganisation that would make kings, like all other official leaders, removable from office. 
Justice Minister Janet Mukwaya presented the Cabinet White Paper to Parliament on Tuesday, which proposed that a traditional leader should be subject to the constitution, and if he violates it, Parliament could take him out of office. 
The recommendations are yet to be debated by parliament. The speaker of Tooro Kingdom, Rev Kloris Kyarimpa said he was “100% sure” that Buganda was responsible fpr the proposal about unseating Kings. He said, “The constitution spells out well that Kings are outside politics in the country, but Buganda crossed the line and their agitation has made the government take that position. ”
© 2004 The Monitor Publications


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[Ugnet] Ministers Tim Lwanga Prof. Ssemakula disown Cabinet on Kings

2004-09-23 Thread Rehema Mukooza
These two men: Tim Lwanga  Prof. Ssemakula are lying. We count them accountable to the White Paper, there is no excuse.They are cabinet ministers who took part in making decisionsthat contributed to the document.

Tim Lwanga must have thought that we are stupid. What can a whole-one-proposal be a "typing error"? He went ahead to show his incompetence to say that "maybe it were the lawyers who make the final toucheswho entrenched their ideas contrally to what the cabinet proposed". I can now see why Mu7 appoints such damn men and women into his cabinet. They can not thinnk.

And lastly, Tim Lwanga said that "he was shocked it and will vote against it." Why didn't he vote against it in cabinet? What gov't position does he care mostly about: being a minister or a MP? Tohim these are mere jobs to eat from, he does not care whether he shows up or not. And why do we have members of the Executive (cabinet) in the Legislature (parliament). These two institutions are supposed to be separate and independent from each other without sharing members. How can these two institutions represent the public if they are filled with the same people? The Executive is the Legislature? Ugandans must wake up to that. Too much has already been wasted.



Omar Kezimbira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

2 ministers disown Cabinet on kings By Gerald Walulya Sept 23, 2004 - Monitor




PARLIAMENT — Two ministers have disowned a Cabinet proposal in the White Paper to give Parliament powers to depose traditional leaders in case they contravened the Constitution. 





NO NO NO: Tim Lwanga (L) and Ssemakula Kiwanuka at Parliament yesterday (Photo by John Nsimbe)
Ethics Minister, Mr Tim Lwanga, and Luweero Triangle State Minister, Prof Ssemakula Kiwanuka, told The Monitor yesterday at Parliament they could not remember discussing the said proposal in any Cabinet meeting on the White Paper.
“I don’t remember discussing that proposal. It was probably discussed when I was absent,” Ssemakula said.“There is no way I could have approved such a proposal. We have never discussed it and I have never heard about it. In fact it’s news to me. It was probably a typing error,” Lwanga, who is also the chairman of the Buganda Parliamentary caucus, said.
Justice Minister, Ms Janat Mukwaya, told Parliament on Tuesday the government thought subjecting traditional leaders to Parliament was a necessary move to check them who, prior to this provision, were above the law.
Lwanga said when he heard Mukwaya reading this recommendation from the White Paper he was surprised like many other MPs.
“I was shocked to hear that. I will vote against it. It was probably entrenched in the White Paper by lawyers who made final touches,” Lwanga said.
Information State Minister Dr James Nsaba Buturo dismissed claims by his colleagues as false. “It is not true that this issue was not discussed in Cabinet. The discussions on the White Paper have been protracted. At a time when we revisited some of these issues some members were absent. At no time was the Cabinet represented in full,” Buturo said.
He criticised the two ministers for denying a position taken by Cabinet yet they are bound by its collective responsibility. He said the government worked under pressure to get the White Paper out, which resulted in producing a document, whose details some of the ministers had not appreciated.

© 2004 The Monitor Publications


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[Ugnet] Re: Ministers Tim Lwanga Prof. Ssemakula disown Cabinet onKings

2004-09-23 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Who gave Obote (the Waco in state house) the authority to take away Buganda's kingdom? I now understand why Buganda scoffed at Obote/UPC for usurping the authorityto ban theautomatic existence of Buganda kingdom. 

Basically what Mu7 and his parliament did was to constitutionally recognize the automatic existence of kingdoms. Obote constitutionaly irrecognized this existence plus exiling the traditional leaders (Kabaka in particular).

==Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Ugandans can make me laugh at times. I told them that Museveni has and had no authority what so ever to give Buganda its kingdom, I asked them to refuse that offer from day one, for Buganda's kingdom is a cultural institution that was established way before Museveni was born, its existence is automatic. So in essence a critical thinker would argue that the kingdom's existence is entirely in Baganda's hands, we have a right to decide whether we want it or not, not some Waco in state house. Baganda laughed at me for "Ffe Museveni waffe atuwadde obwakabaka bwaffe" Then Iasked, if Museveni is giving you that kingdom through good faith, why is he not returning the other kingdoms as Ankole let us say? Baganda as always refused to think that a-far.

Now the idiots are starting to think that Museveni can give them the kingdom back but can not end it. Is Matoke screwing the heads this much? Men oh men cut it down for this is becoming very funny indeed.

Em
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2 ministers disown Cabinet on kings By Gerald Walulya Sept 23, 2004 - Monitor




PARLIAMENT — Two ministers have disowned a Cabinet proposal in the White Paper to give Parliament powers to depose traditional leaders in case they contravened the Constitution. 





NO NO NO: Tim Lwanga (L) and Ssemakula Kiwanuka at Parliament yesterday (Photo by John Nsimbe)
Ethics Minister, Mr Tim Lwanga, and Luweero Triangle State Minister, Prof Ssemakula Kiwanuka, told The Monitor yesterday at Parliament they could not remember discussing the said proposal in any Cabinet meeting on the White Paper.
“I don’t remember discussing that proposal. It was probably discussed when I was absent,” Ssemakula said.“There is no way I could have approved such a proposal. We have never discussed it and I have never heard about it. In fact it’s news to me. It was probably a typing error,” Lwanga, who is also the chairman of the Buganda Parliamentary caucus, said.
Justice Minister, Ms Janat Mukwaya, told Parliament on Tuesday the government thought subjecting traditional leaders to Parliament was a necessary move to check them who, prior to this provision, were above the law.
Lwanga said when he heard Mukwaya reading this recommendation from the White Paper he was surprised like many other MPs.
“I was shocked to hear that. I will vote against it. It was probably entrenched in the White Paper by lawyers who made final touches,” Lwanga said.
Information State Minister Dr James Nsaba Buturo dismissed claims by his colleagues as false. “It is not true that this issue was not discussed in Cabinet. The discussions on the White Paper have been protracted. At a time when we revisited some of these issues some members were absent. At no time was the Cabinet represented in full,” Buturo said.
He criticised the two ministers for denying a position taken by Cabinet yet they are bound by its collective responsibility. He said the government worked under pressure to get the White Paper out, which resulted in producing a document, whose details some of the ministers had not appreciated.

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[Ugnet] Re: Ministers Tim Lwanga Prof. Ssemakula disown Cabinet onKings

2004-09-23 Thread Rehema Mukooza
It's saddening how you failed to follow your arguement when Iswitched the presidents from Mu7 to Obote and you resolved to using that oldest chapter in UPC book, "Let us blame Buganda for it all even if we abolished other kingdoms too." What Mu7 is trying to do is what Obote did once; so why are you confused?

Who gave Obote the authority to ban an automatic existence of cultural kingdoms? 
And by "kingdoms", I mean kingdoms not Muteesa (a man). How many automatic existences of cultural kingdoms did Obote abolish? I believe it's more than Buganda's.

Just for the record, Bunyoro, Tooro, Busoga, Ankole kingdoms had no plans for attacking Uganda in 1966. What justified their abolishments? However much lies you put on Buganda, I don't believe Buganda had any plans to attack Uganda in 1966. And if what Mengo is doing now was under Obote's era, you would have been amazedat what steps Obote would make, forget Mu7. Atleast, in this era it's about a monarch and not about victimizing all other monarchsfor the "sins" of one monarch. If Buganda asked for federo under Obote, I believe he would abolish all monarchies in Uganda. 


Zakoomu M.


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Why would you constitutionalise a cultural entity? Did Buganda have a kingdom for it was stated so in the constitution? If you loved constitutionalising it as Museveni did, so what is wrong with making guide lines about it?

Interesting how you failed even to follow my argument and you used the oldest chapter in Buganda book, "Let us blame Obote for it all" Just for the record,the plans Mutesa had for attacking Uganda in 1966, justified all that a responsible president did. And if Mutesa did that during Museveni's era you would have been amazed on what steps Museveni would have taken, forgetObote.

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Who gave Obote (the Waco in state house) the authority to take away Buganda's kingdom? I now understand why Buganda scoffed at Obote/UPC for usurping the authorityto ban theautomatic existence of Buganda kingdom. 

Basically what Mu7 and his parliament did was to constitutionally recognize the automatic existence of kingdoms. Obote constitutionaly irrecognized this existence plus exiling the traditional leaders (Kabaka in particular).

==Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 




Ugandans can make me laugh at times. I told them that Museveni has and had no authority what so ever to give Buganda its kingdom, I asked them to refuse that offer from day one, for Buganda's kingdom is a cultural institution that was established way before Museveni was born, its existence is automatic. So in essence a critical thinker would argue that the kingdom's existence is entirely in Baganda's hands, we have a right to decide whether we want it or not, not some Waco in state house. Baganda laughed at me for "Ffe Museveni waffe atuwadde obwakabaka bwaffe" Then Iasked, if Museveni is giving you that kingdom through good faith, why is he not returning the other kingdoms as Ankole let us say? Baganda as always refused to think that a-far.

Now the idiots are starting to think that Museveni can give them the kingdom back but can not end it. Is Matoke screwing the heads this much? Men oh men cut it down for this is becoming very funny indeed.

Em
Toronto

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2 ministers disown Cabinet on kings By Gerald Walulya Sept 23, 2004 - Monitor




PARLIAMENT — Two ministers have disowned a Cabinet proposal in the White Paper to give Parliament powers to depose traditional leaders in case they contravened the Constitution. 





NO NO NO: Tim Lwanga (L) and Ssemakula Kiwanuka at Parliament yesterday (Photo by John Nsimbe)
Ethics Minister, Mr Tim Lwanga, and Luweero Triangle State Minister, Prof Ssemakula Kiwanuka, told The Monitor yesterday at Parliament they could not remember discussing the said proposal in any Cabinet meeting on the

[Ugnet] Re: Palamenti eneeba n'obuyinza okuggyako Kabaka!

2004-09-22 Thread Rehema Mukooza




Mw. ...

Ah! Kino kyo kitususeeko! Oba kati waliyo ababaka bamekka abasobola okuwagira etteka bwerityo? Nze ndowooza waliwo abajja okuliwagira nga Mu7 abawadde sente n'abasasulira amabanja. Kitalo nyobanaffe! Katikkiro byeyagamba eby'okusabira Kabaka n'Obuganda olw'ebiseera ebitujjirira mumaaso bibino bitukirira.

Tewali njawulo wakati wa Mu7 ne Obote. Oyo Mu7 wamu n'Obote wakwo batta Abaganda e Luwero - ekyo temukyerabiranga! Mulekere awo okwerimba mwekka nti Mu7 teyatta Baganda e Luwero, oba nti Obote yekka yeyatta; bonna batta Baganda banaffe e Luwero nemu Kampala.


Zakoomu M.

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Bannange ensonga nnagikoonako mu e-mail yange 'Ensi egudde eddalu?'. Mwetegereze nti kino kigoberedde Bunyoro okuwabira Kabaka mu mbuga za mateeka. Kabaka bwanagaana okugenda mu kooti nga tebatuma baserikale kumukima? Yensonga y'emu eyelambika obulungi bwewetegereza engeri gavumenti gye cwacwalikana ne Mengo nokulabula Mengo. It seems Mengo is warned either to back the movement or to be resolved. Kuno bwogattako sad term negujabagira. Gyetulaga erabika ekutte kazigizigi!


Byokya
Bya Ahmed Mukiibi ABABAKA abamu beesoozezza minisita Hajati Janat Balunzi Mukwaya bwe yayanjudde ekiteeso ekiwa palamenti obuyinza obuggyako Kabaka. Ekiteeso kigamba: Kabaka oba omufuzi yenna ow’ensikirano anaamenya konsitityusoni, palamenti eneeba n'obuyinza obumuggyako. (The traditional or cultural leader is subject to the constitution and if he violates the constitution, he will be removed from office by parliament.) Bino biri mu kiwandiiko kya gavumenti ekya White Paper minisita kye yayanjulidde palamenti eggulo. Ekiwandiiko mwe muli ebirowoozo ku kukyusa konsitityusoni. Muno mw'etadde ne federo gy'eyagaliza Buganda. Minisita yabadde tannamalayo nsonga eno abamu kwe kwesooza n'okunyeenya emitwe abalala ne baseka mu ngeri y'okwewuunya. Abamu baawuliddwa nga beebuuza nti "gavumenti ebadde ki?" n'abalala nti "Ebintu nga bigenze wala." Embeera eyo yawalirizza Mukwaya okusiriikiriramu, sipiika Edward Sekandi asobole
 okukkakkanya ababaka. Bwe baasirise Mukwaya yabannyonnyodde nti Pulezidenti bw'aba asobola okuggyibwamu ne baminisita tusobolaokuggyibwako obwesige, nammwe (ababaka) musobola okugobwa, lwaki ye Kabaka abeera waggulu w'amateeka? Olwo Mukwaya yabadde yaakamala okunnyonnyola ababaka nti gavumenti etadde mu White Paper ebirowoozo bya mirundi ebiri ku by'obukulembeze bwa gavumenti ezebitundu, bo ababaka be banaasalawo. Ebirowoozo bino mwe muli eky'enkiiko ebbiri okubeera e Mmengo n'ebitundu ebirala eri abafuzi b'ensikirano ng'olumu lwa byabufuzi olulondeddwa obutereevu n'olulala olw'ebyobuwangwa olujja okubaamu Abataka. Oba olukiiko lumu olulonde kyokka ng'a lulimu n'ababaka b'ebyobuwangwa. Ebitundu eteri bafuzi ba nsikirano ejja kubaayo olukiiko lumu lwokka. Ensonga endala eziri mu White Paper gavumenti ewagira okuggyako ekkomo ku bisanja Pulezidenti by'alina okufuna kyokka palamenti y'ejja okusalawo eky'enkomerero. Ku kukyusa okuva mu muvumen
 ti
 okudda mu bibiina kijja kukubwako akalulu k'ekikungo olwo palamenti eryoke ekyuse akatundu 74 aka Konsitityusoni. Okulonda kwa pulezidenti, ababaka ba Palamenti ne bassentebe ba LC5 kubeewo ku lunaku lumu. Gavumenti esemba Bannayuganda okukkirizibwa okubeera n'obutuuze obw'emirundi ebiri (obwa Uganda n'eggwanga eddala). Sipiika Sekandi yategeezezza ababaka oluvannyuma nti agenda kubata baddeyoko mu bantu babeebuuzeeko ku nsonga z'okukyusa mu konsitityusoni, kyokka n’abasaba nti ekiseera bwe kinaaba kituuse eky’okuteesa ku nsonga eno, bakulembeze ebirowoozo by'abantu be bakiikirira sso si ebyabwe.
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[Ugnet] Re: Palamenti eneeba n'obuyinza okuggyako Kabaka!

2004-09-22 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Edward:

Mengo tesolooza musolo n'olwekyo telina simbi zakulonda Lukiiko. Olaba Mengo namasanyalaze n'abakozi bibalemererwa okusasura ebiseera ebisiinga. Olwo lwolowooza nti ezokulonda olukiiko zebalina. Mengo esabiriza busabirizi mu kutunda Buganda Certificates.

Bwadde olukiiko sirulonde, abalukiikamu tebasasulwa. Singa lulondebwa abalukiikamu baba balina okusasulibwa nga ba MPs bwe basasulwa omusaala. Ezo sente Mengo tezirina, tesolooza musolo. Tojjigereza ku gov't ya Uganda esolooza omusolo n'ogatako sente zaba Donors (Britian, USA, Germany, etc) kyokka nga banaffe abali engulu mu lutalo (Northern War) baffa njala, nga kwotadde okubatulugunya n'okubatta kubiragiro bya Museveni.

Mengo tejjigeza ku gov't ya Uganda. Okujjako nga Buganda n'ebitundu bya Uganda ebirala byona biweeredwa Federo (nga n'okusolooza omusolo mwotadde). Awo Mengo lwejja okusobola okusasula sente z'okusawo okulonda kw'olukiiko.

Yye gwe! Omanyi sente ezetagisibwa okusaawo okulonda Olukiiko?
Njagala kumanya oba byoyogerako obitegeera.

Okusinziira kundowooza yange nebyempagira, Olukiiko lwe Mengo bwadde salukubako kalulu lunkikiride bulungi nyo kunsoonga zempagira, era nduwagira. Njaduwagira pakka Federo bwenewebwa Buganda n'ebitundu ebirala, Mengo esolooze omusolo esobole okkusawo okulonda kw'olukiiko. Naye kati nga Mengo bwetalina sente ezo, ekikulu ssi kukuba kalulu ku Lukiiko, wabula nti Olukiiko luwagira kyempagira era lunkiikirira?? Ekyo kekirimu amagezi kati okusinziira kumbeera nga bweeri e Mengo.


Zakoomu M.

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Musooke muddeyo e Mengo mufune olukiiko olulonde.

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Mw. ...

Ah! Kino kyo kitususeeko! Oba kati waliyo ababaka bamekka abasobola okuwagira etteka bwerityo? Nze ndowooza waliwo abajja okuliwagira nga Mu7 abawadde sente n'abasasulira amabanja. Kitalo nyobanaffe! Katikkiro byeyagamba eby'okusabira Kabaka n'Obuganda olw'ebiseera ebitujjirira mumaaso bibino bitukirira.

Tewali njawulo wakati wa Mu7 ne Obote. Oyo Mu7 wamu n'Obote wakwo batta Abaganda e Luwero - ekyo temukyerabiranga! Mulekere awo okwerimba mwekka nti Mu7 teyatta Baganda e Luwero, oba nti Obote yekka yeyatta; bonna batta Baganda banaffe e Luwero nemu Kampala.


Zakoomu M.

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Bannange ensonga nnagikoonako mu e-mail yange 'Ensi egudde eddalu?'. Mwetegereze nti kino kigoberedde Bunyoro okuwabira Kabaka mu mbuga za mateeka. Kabaka bwanagaana okugenda mu kooti nga tebatuma baserikale kumukima? Yensonga y'emu eyelambika obulungi bwewetegereza engeri gavumenti gye cwacwalikana ne Mengo nokulabula Mengo. It seems Mengo is warned either to back the movement or to be resolved. Kuno bwogattako sad term negujabagira. Gyetulaga erabika ekutte kazigizigi!


Byokya
Bya Ahmed Mukiibi ABABAKA abamu beesoozezza minisita Hajati Janat Balunzi Mukwaya bwe yayanjudde ekiteeso ekiwa palamenti obuyinza obuggyako Kabaka. Ekiteeso kigamba: Kabaka oba omufuzi yenna ow’ensikirano anaamenya konsitityusoni, palamenti eneeba n'obuyinza obumuggyako. (The traditional or cultural leader is subject to the constitution and if he violates the constitution, he will be removed from office by parliament.) Bino biri mu kiwandiiko kya gavumenti ekya White Paper minisita kye yayanjulidde palamenti eggulo. Ekiwandiiko mwe muli ebirowoozo ku kukyusa konsitityusoni. Muno mw'etadde ne federo gy'eyagaliza Buganda. Minisita yabadde tannamalayo nsonga eno abamu kwe kwesooza n'okunyeenya emitwe abalala ne baseka mu ngeri y'okwewuunya. Abamu baawuliddwa nga beebuuza nti "gavumenti ebadde ki?" n'abalala nti "Ebintu nga bigenze wala." Embeera eyo yawalirizza Mukwaya okusiriikiriramu, sipiika Edward Sekandi asobole
 okukkakkanya ababaka. Bwe baasirise Mukwaya yabannyonnyodde nti Pulezidenti bw'aba asobola okuggyibwamu ne baminisita tusobolaokuggyibwako obwesige, nammwe (ababaka) musobola okugobwa, lwaki ye Kabaka abeera waggulu w'amateeka? Olwo Mukwaya yabadde yaakamala okunnyonnyola ababaka nti gavumenti etadde mu White Paper ebirowoozo bya mirundi ebiri ku by'obukulembeze bwa gavumenti ezebitundu, bo ababaka be banaasalawo. Ebirowoozo bino mwe muli eky'enkiiko ebbiri okubeera e Mmengo n'ebitundu ebirala eri abafuzi b'ensikirano ng'olumu lwa byabufuzi olulondeddwa obutereevu n'olulala olw'ebyobuwangwa olujja okubaamu Abataka. Oba o

[Ugnet] White paper has ignored tribalism - a lesson to learn

2004-09-22 Thread Rehema Mukooza




White paper has ignored tribalism








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By Joe Nam Notwithstanding its proposed considerable empowerment of parliament, and preservation of family values, the White Paper (now before parliament) has skipped an important issue in regard to cultural institutions. I had proposed at the constitutional review commission, during its sitting, that Parliament should be divided into two, one house for elected representatives and the other for representatives of the cultural institutions in Uganda. The session chairman that day, Dr Byamugisha, of course scoffed at the proposal and it was not included in Prof Sempebwa’s final report. It was killed before the drafting of the white paper. This act effectively perpetuates the marginalisation and alienation of African traditional institutions from democratic participation and civic engagement within the political structures of Uganda. The consequences are detrimental to the country’s progress. Government’s failure to constructively e
 ngage
 traditional institutions in civic participation means that each of the 56 ethnic groups in Uganda will retreat to its tribal cacoon to determine its own narrow agenda. For the dominant ethnic groups like Buganda, this gets expressed in such forms as the quest for federo. The tribe is a strong force that cannot be ignored. It has been mobilised by African politicians for many negative purposes. One sure way to harness the positive forces in tribes is by giving them a national forum within the framework of the law. This offers many solutions to the current governance hitches facing the government. When vested with veto power, a body such as a House of Representatives for traditional institutions reinforces the principle of checks and balances in government that modern western system of government we copied purports to champion. It is a powerful check on the excesses of the Executive and Legislative arms of government. It is also an ideal forum to addres
 s many
 of Uganda’s cultural practices that have outlived their usefulness and is a formidable agency for civic mobilisation. Government would not have to struggle with ethnic jingoism and chauvanism if there were a national forum for traditional institutions to solve conflicts among their peoples. Take the recent cases of clashes involving the Banyoro and Bakiga emigrants, the Iteso and Bahima herdsmen, the Karimojong against their neighbours the Lango, Teso, Acholi, Sabiny and Bagisu. What would the scenario be like if traditional leaders from these ethnic groups sat in one forum to deliberate national issues? There would be more communication and less suspicion, less conflict and more progress. The government’s insistence to implement a system of government that is alien to the African peoples ensures the continuity of conflict, instability, corruption and slow progress conditioned by an unaccountable government. Whether Government likes it or not, tri
 be is a
 force to reckon with. The earlier government corrects its policy on tribe, the better. If not, tribal sentiments shall continue to undermine the government’s nation-building efforts. Article 246 of the constitution merely legalises the existence of cultural institutions. this is not enough although it is a good step to the full institutionalisation of traditional institutions within the structure of government. The mainstreaming of traditional institutions into national politics will also help solve the political chauvinism that has bedevilled African politics. This is the pretence of upholding modern political values at the same time subscribing to and practising deeply held values exclusive to one’s own ethnicity. This is why tribalism thrives despite all rhetoric uttered to denounce it. By marrying traditional and modern political practices, Uganda could produce a hybrid system that ensures a degree of contentment to all parties in this cou
 ntry.
 Why do Britain, the United States, India and other countries have two houses in their parliament if not to ensure the inclusion of all important stakeholders in national life?
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[Ugnet] Re: IS BUSH GAY?

2004-09-09 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Edward:

Well, are you gay? You once said that young women are not good in bed, to your taste. You are either juicing older ladies or gay. You sound very petty in your writings. What are you?


Zakoomu M.


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Is President Bush a Girly Man?







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"Karyn is with us. A West Texas girl, just like me" 

-- President Bush, May 27, 2004

January 2004. Mr. Bush wandered over during Mr. [Scot] Reid's [senior strategist to Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin] chat with the Prime Minister. Mr. Reid introduced himself and shook hands with Mr. Bush.
The President chuckled. "Well, you got a pretty face," he told the surprised Mr. Reid. He wasn't done. "You got a pretty face," he said again. "You're a good-looking guy. Better looking than my Scott anyway."

-- President Bush in a coquettish bout of eye-batting homosexual diplomatic flirting January 16, 2004 The Globe and Mail




We at Baptists Are Saving Homosexuals have BASHed enough so-called "gays" with the blunt love of Jesus to know how to spot deviants across a crowded sale at Saks. Outside of Italian shoes, nothing sends up a rainbow-colored flare that you are dealing with a flaming homosexual more reliably than when a man breathlessly gushes the word "faaabulous!" When a Christian lady hears this word outside of her hair salon or florist, she instinctively reaches for the Bible tracts in her purse because she knows a nancy boy is within throwing range.
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[Ugnet] RE: LONE RANGER: Anne Mugisha demonstrates alone? - makanga

2004-09-08 Thread Rehema Mukooza


Makanga!

I read her posters before I looked at her, believe it or not. The message was simple and in line with my own beliefs in not changing the presidential term limits but the president.

I have no beef with Ms. Anne Mugisha-(Bwomezi?) butI canask where her waist line is. What I mean is that I can ask a question, can't I? Besides, what'swrong with my question?

Here goes a question: Does Ms. Anne Mugisha have a waist line?


Zakoomu M.

gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Zakoomu,If you have any beef with Muky. Anne please let them be directed at the ideas she espouses NOT at her waist line!-- That any Dick head can do!I hope you took time to read and understand her message? It read," CHANGE THE PRESIDENT NOT THE CONSTITUTION" Very simple msg really?Rgds"Rang guthe agithi marapu!" A karamonjong word of wisdom
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Look at the picture on the right.LONE RANGER: Mugisha demonstrates against Museveni before he addressed Ugandans at the Sheraton Seattle Hotel on Saturday
Hahahahah hahahahahaha hahahahah at "LONE RANGER". This is a funny photo, seriously!How many people demonstrated along side Ms. Anne Mugisha-Bwomezi? Haahahahah, this is funny!Katonda wange, yyii banange she was there alone? Hahahahahah, bino bisesa!Is Ms. Anne a Mrs. Bwomezi?Does Ms. Anne Mugisha have a waist line? Hahahahaha, this is truelly funny! I think we are looking at a managed opposition demonstrator. Let's not be fooled.Zakoomu M.-


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[Ugnet] Re: Buganda federo fans overwhelm Nagginda

2004-09-08 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Edward:

Changing Uganda's Buganda from unitary to federalism changes and shapes Buganda's culture, in the same way the change of Buganda from semi-federalism to unitarism changed its culture.

I think I overestimated your intellect! Whatever affects Buganda's culture and Buganda's people's well-being must be addressed by Mengo, Kabaka, Nabagereka, and all cultural respresentatives. Therefore the Nabagareka is justified to wave and smile at a federo-demanding crowd. 

A person like you might even ask how can the Toro, Bunyoro, Busoga, Buganda Queens address the suffering in the IDP camps because such is a political issue to solve. But ofcourse any sensible Ugandan would know that anything that affects culture and the well being of people can not be ignored by cultural institutions. 

Cultures do not exist in a vacuum. Mengo must address and push for federo.



Zakoomu M.

===Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Ugandans

Changing Uganda from a Unitary system to a federal system is a political and not a cultural issue, and people like my self who will be accused to be against Buganda by my comments, can not help but wonder why and how Nanginda can even attend a meeting like this. And to the Mengo officials, I think it would be very fundamental if un informed people like Nabakyaala can be advised to look into the faces of the Ugandans they address and tell them plain blank, that Mengo has nothing to do, with turning Uganda into a federal state. But to do that, Mengo officials must understand that Buganda kingdom is to be in Uganda with Uganda being a federal State or not, but Mengo does not seem to get that.
So I end up with a confused half informed society lead by Mengo, a very uninformed leadership and the weary days continue in Uganda and in Buganda. And the question we remain with becomes very simple, are federalists doing good to thelong effect of Buganda or they are making sure that this kingdom ends with Museveni?

We live in very strange days indeed

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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Buganda federo fans overwhelm Nagginda

 
MAJESTIC: Kemigisha, Nagginda and Busoga’s Muloki on arrival at Nakivubo Stadium for theEkijjulo kya’ bakyaala 


By Alex Balimwikungu THE Nabagereka, Sylvia Nagginda’s, address to a crowd that graced the Ekijjulo kya’ bakyaala (Queens’ bash) on Sunday turned dramatic when frenzied kingdom fans stepped up demands for federo. Nagginda’s speech at Nakivubo stadium was punctuated with chants of, “Twagala federo oba tuffa tuffe”(We want federo, even if it is at the expense of blood), which deafened the stadium. Amidst the chants, Nagginda only smiled and waved to the crowd before resuming her seat. In a speech on behalf of the other Queens, Toro Queen mother Best Kemigisha praised the Government for addressing the plight of the disadvantaged women and children in the displaced people’s camps (IDPs) in the north. The Omugo of Bunyoro, Margaret Karunga and Busoga’s Inebantu, Alice Muloki attended. Kemigisha said they took up the initiative after getting encouraged by the Government’s efforts to alleviate the suffering of t
  he
 IDPs. “We are impressed with the Government’s efforts towards helping the IDPs and marginalised women. To express solidarity with this cause, we came up with such an initiative whose proceeds will go to the IDPs,” she said.
Published on: Tuesday, 7th September, 2004


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[Ugnet] Re: Buganda federo fans overwhelm Nagginda

2004-09-08 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Mw. Ssemakula:

Edward has just insulted all these Queens and condemned them for addressing the suffering of people in IDP camps, because that's a political issue.

Recently, he attacked Mengo, the Kabaka, and Nabagerekafor not being concerned and addressing the Northern War, a political issue. We live in strange days indeed!Edward ishigh on weed! 


Zakoomu M.
===musamize ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Mr. "Mulindwa":

This may be an oxymoron, but do know what is meant by "Ekijjulo kya’ bakyaala"?
If so, what is there to "wonder why and how Nanginda (sic) can even attend a meeting like this"?


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Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Ugandans

Changing Uganda from a Unitary system to a federal system is a political and not a cultural issue, and people like my self who will be accused to be against Buganda by my comments, can not help but wonder why and how Nanginda can even attend a meeting like this. And to the Mengo officials, I think it would be very fundamental if un informed people like Nabakyaala can be advised to look into the faces of the Ugandans they address and tell them plain blank, that Mengo has nothing to do, with turning Uganda into a federal state. But to do that, Mengo officials must understand that Buganda kingdom is to be in Uganda with Uganda being a federal State or not, but Mengo does not seem to get that.
So I end up with a confused half informed society lead by Mengo, a very uninformed leadership and the weary days continue in Uganda and in Buganda. And the question we remain with becomes very simple, are federalists doing good to thelong effect of Buganda or they are making sure that this kingdom ends with Museveni?

We live in very strange days indeed

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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Buganda federo fans overwhelm Nagginda

 
MAJESTIC: Kemigisha, Nagginda and Busoga’s Muloki on arrival at Nakivubo Stadium for theEkijjulo kya’ bakyaala 


By Alex Balimwikungu THE Nabagereka, Sylvia Nagginda’s, address to a crowd that graced the Ekijjulo kya’ bakyaala (Queens’ bash) on Sunday turned dramatic when frenzied kingdom fans stepped up demands for federo. Nagginda’s speech at Nakivubo stadium was punctuated with chants of, “Twagala federo oba tuffa tuffe”(We want federo, even if it is at the expense of blood), which deafened the stadium. Amidst the chants, Nagginda only smiled and waved to the crowd before resuming her seat. In a speech on behalf of the other Queens, Toro Queen mother Best Kemigisha praised the Government for addressing the plight of the disadvantaged women and children in the displaced people’s camps (IDPs) in the north. The Omugo of Bunyoro, Margaret Karunga and Busoga’s Inebantu, Alice Muloki attended. Kemigisha said they took up the initiative after getting encouraged by the Government’s efforts to alleviate the suffering of t
  he
 IDPs. “We are impressed with the Government’s efforts towards helping the IDPs and marginalised women. To express solidarity with this cause, we came up with such an initiative whose proceeds will go to the IDPs,” she said.
Published on: Tuesday, 7th September, 2004


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[Ugnet] Buganda federo fans overwhelm Nagginda

2004-09-06 Thread Rehema Mukooza




Buganda federo fans overwhelm Nagginda

 
MAJESTIC: Kemigisha, Nagginda and Busoga’s Muloki on arrival at Nakivubo Stadium for theEkijjulo kya’ bakyaala 


By Alex Balimwikungu THE Nabagereka, Sylvia Nagginda’s, address to a crowd that graced the Ekijjulo kya’ bakyaala (Queens’ bash) on Sunday turned dramatic when frenzied kingdom fans stepped up demands for federo. Nagginda’s speech at Nakivubo stadium was punctuated with chants of, “Twagala federo oba tuffa tuffe”(We want federo, even if it is at the expense of blood), which deafened the stadium. Amidst the chants, Nagginda only smiled and waved to the crowd before resuming her seat. In a speech on behalf of the other Queens, Toro Queen mother Best Kemigisha praised the Government for addressing the plight of the disadvantaged women and children in the displaced people’s camps (IDPs) in the north. The Omugo of Bunyoro, Margaret Karunga and Busoga’s Inebantu, Alice Muloki attended. Kemigisha said they took up the initiative after getting encouraged by the Government’s efforts to alleviate the suffering of t
 he IDPs.
 “We are impressed with the Government’s efforts towards helping the IDPs and marginalised women. To express solidarity with this cause, we came up with such an initiative whose proceeds will go to the IDPs,” she said.
Published on: Tuesday, 7th September, 2004


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[Ugnet] LONE RANGER: Anne Mugisha demonstrates alone?

2004-09-06 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Look at the picture on the right.








LONE RANGER: Mugisha demonstrates against Museveni before he addressed Ugandans at the Sheraton Seattle Hotel on SaturdayHahahahah hahahahahaha hahahahah at "LONE RANGER". This is a funny photo, seriously! 

How many people demonstrated along side Ms. Anne Mugisha-Bwomezi? Haahahahah, this is funny! 

Katonda wange, yyii banange she was there alone? Hahahahahah, bino bisesa!

Is Ms.Anne a Mrs. Bwomezi?

Does Ms. Anne Mugisha have a waist line? Hahahahaha, this is truelly funny! I think we are looking at a managed opposition demonstrator. Let's not be fooled.



Zakoomu M.
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[Ugnet] UNAA Anne Mugisha led Demonstration

2004-09-06 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Is this how big the demonstration got? Yyii banange, hahahahahaha ahahahahaha this is funny!













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ugnet_: Re: Cops probe tycoon on homosexuality!

2004-08-14 Thread Rehema Mukooza

Shami:

That is a very good question. Does it turn me on seeing two men pumping each other? = Well, it captures my attention. My curiosity builds and I feel like I have to find out more about what these two men are doing to each other and gaining (pleasure). The satisfaction of knowledge I get from watching makes it fun to watch. I am a knowlegde seeker and I find fun in doing that. Watching gays have sex is among the many things I take pride in knowledge for knowing. I would say that seeing two men pump each other is fun to watch. 

There is also something beautiful and humane about it. In my sight, it's a symbol of humanity and sexuality. When aman throws his ego out the window and go for his innate call to experience ecstasy in its greatest and highestform, I think that isa symbol of humanity in itself. No wonder many gay men act "weak" because after touching humanity at its core, some part of the ego dies. The rest that remains is humanity and sexuality, that's what I see in gay sexual activities. 

You wanted to know what turns me on. What turns me on is True Romance! Hahaha... And I don't mean fake/acting romances. I don't mean flowers, candle light dinners, evenning at the beach, etc etc. I don't mean empty kissing, hugging, sucking, careressing, sex etc etc. The kind of romance that starts from Inside to the Outside and not from the Outside-In. I know True Romance when I see it and it turns me on. Now, you go figure!



Zakoomu M.



===Shami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Mpulidde nnyabo (I hear u loud and clear) lol!After all is said and done, would it turn you on seeing two men pumping each other?
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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Shamilah:  Sometime not all situations can be termed as "for" or "against."   I am not against Homosexuality and I am not for Homosexuality. I am an observer who is trying to understand Homosexuality from the core. My thirst for knowledge and understanding of taboo issues (like homosexuality) has led me to many discoveries. I am a very curious person, if you didn't know now you know.   If I turn against homosexuality; How will I find the information about Homosexual sexual activities that I am looking for? Turning against Homosexual does not help my cause (knowledge) but hurt it.   Nditegeera ntya era ndi manya ntya engeri gyebaryaamu ebisiyaga ne gyebabinyumirwaamu singa mba mbivumirira? Nze nnonya kumanya biffa ku bisiyaga n'obuwoomi obubirimi. Okumanya ebiffa ku bisiyaga tekyirina
 kyekinkosa! Nze njagala kumanya, era kaneyongereyo nerabire ku bali be bisiyaga.   Loosely translated as "How will I acquire knowledge of gay sexual activities and the pleasure involved if I am against gays? I am searching for knowledge about gay sexual activities and the pleasure involved. Knowledge of that can not harm me! I want to know, and let me go do some more watching."   If I turn to pro-Homosexuality, I don't think that would help society in the long run either. I would not encourage young men or women to become gays and lesbians. I am pro-fun! I think that If a man enjoys prostate/rectal pleasure, I think he should go ahead with his thing. Being anti-gays will not stop his craving and enjoyments of prostate fun. So, why make his life a living hell? Afterall, it's his life. Everyone on this earth deser
 ves a
 peacefull, enjoyable life. Gays/Lesbians rights must be respected.  I have told you people once and before that there is something humane about two men on each other. Ancient Greeks (the founders of modern civilization and philosophy) saw Gayism as a symbol of human sexuality. Theirs was between a mentor who was usually an elder male with a younger male. The time to see a man as a man (without testasterone issues involved) is during gay sexual activities. Hahaha haha hahahah ahaha hahaha... Unlike Hetorosexual sex, during gay sex testasterone and egos are thrown out the window. The game is ruled by pleasure and ecstasy alone. That is what I call fun to watch! LOL lol lol...   Zakoomu M.   == 
 
 shamilah bbosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Rehema:  You have dwelt on this topic for so long so I have a question: are you for or against gayism/homosexuality? For someone who is not, you sure know alot about it (lol).  =======  Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LilQT:  1st, you said: "Interesting! Would you say?" = Yes, it's indeed interesting! I would say. You have touched a point but you have failed to understand or explain it! Too bad! But I will take it upon myself to enlighten you on the issue.  You said: "Why would somebody want to jeopardize everything by engaging or partic

ugnet_: Out of Partisan Politics Vs. Apolitical

2004-08-14 Thread Rehema Mukooza
How can one be apolitical when oneis a leader ofpeople?
What is partisan politics?
What is apolitical?

Read below...


Leo Ssebweze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



President Museveni has advised that the Kabaka should steer clear of politics.Could he explain why heasked the Kabaka to speak politics to Baganda during the rebel bush war of 1981-1985?
When I hear this advice coming from Museveni and his friends, my first instinct is that malice is the driver. When they go so far as legislating this in law, I am truly troubled.The issue whether the Kabaka or any other traditional leader should engage in partisan politics is amatter local to the people the traditionalhead leads.
Don't get me wrong, I am at one with the contention that the Kabaka should be above partisan politics - the emphasis is on the word 'partisan'. How can one possible be apolitical when one is a leader of people? Correct me if I am wrong but it has to be that Museveni will frustrate anyone who has the following of the masses.
If any one can explain to me why the Kabaka should be out of politics as opposed to partisan politics, I would like to hear from you.
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ugnet_: Re: Bunyoro has decided: No federo

2004-08-12 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Ssemakula:

Owaange, that's a good question!

Buganda accepted the referendum and returned the Buyaga and Bugangaizi counties. This shows that Buganda has a respect for the rule of Law. However, our brothers in Bunyoro do not understand such a respect. 

Buyaga - voted to returnto Bunyoro
Bugangaizi - voted toreturn toBunyoro

Singo (now Kiboga district) - voted tostay inBuganda
Buwekula (some parts of Mubende District) - voted tostay inBuganda
Bugerere (Kayunga District) - voted to stay in Buganda
Buruli (Nakasongola) - voted to stay in Buganda

Recently, it has been reported that Baruuli have their own culture not related to Bunyoro or Buganda. I just read that they speak Luruuli languange (not Lunyoro or Luganda). They have Baruuli clans (not Bunyoro's or Buganda's). And they have their Baruuli cultures too. 

Is Buruuli another Kooki-like? Baruuli are neither Banyoro nor Baganda. 


Zakoomu M.
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ps:

Is Bunyoro challenging the results of the referendum that returned some counties while others freelyvoted to remain in Buganda --in that very same exercise?SSAABASAJJA KABAKA MUWENDA MUTEBI AWANGAALE!!! 



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Federalists:

Last year Bunyoro was for federo (www.federo.com/Pages/Bunyoro_Federal_Revelations.htm). This year theyapparently want land from Buganda, which wasn't mentioned last year.

Uganda bename an entity with the declaration of of a Protectorate. Our first Commissioner and colonial official, one Sir Gerald Portal, was appointed in about 1980.I am no expert in law, but it would appear reasonable to me that internal borders were frozen then.

As tounder what reignwhich counties were added to Buganda is no mystery. It is recorded in books like Sir Apolo Kaggwa's 1901 book 
Bassekabaka Ba Buganda, and in derivative sources like 
Cox, A.H. 1950 The growth and expansion of Buganda, Uganda Journal, 14:153-159, 
J.S. Kasirye's 1959(?) Abateregga ku Namulondo ya Buganda - (an excellent summary for those who find Kaggwa hard-going or long), 
Prof. Matia Semakula Mulumba Kiwanuka's 1972 The History of Buganda: From Foundation to 1900,etc. 

For the literally-challenged, Prof. Posnansky prepared a map derived from Cox's narrative. The map appeared in one of the earliest issues of the East African Geographical Review, (EAGR is porobably defunct now). If and when I get time, I'll scan it and post it on the web.

Peculiarly, the Omukama's fathar wrote quite a bit about Bunyoro, etc. His writings were published in the Uganda Journal, under the nom de plume of "K.W." one of the remarkable points of those writings was the Omukama's plea to the Banyoro to return to Bunyoro and develop their kingdom. No mention of the return of Bugerere, Singo, etc that I can recall, other than maybe the traditional "Lost Counties" that were returned to Bunyoro by Buganda after Independence.

So where do these new territorial claims spring from?

Musamize

(btw: not that it is any of my business, butwhat wonderful things has Bunyoro done with the 'Lost Counties' sincethey were 'found' some 40 odd years ago? Does each resident sport a pajero these days?)"M. Kibuka" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Members,

Bunyoro doesn't like federo; instead it has opted for the lost counties. I'm wondering who told Bunyoro that there is a choice between the two. Where is the relationship, or is it never dying enmity coming up. How viable is the Ugandan state really?

Cheers, M. Kibuka
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Banyoro want lost counties and not federo

 



By Asuman Bisiika All communities have a passionate attachment to what they call a glorious past. For Bunyoro Kingdom, the glorious past was doted with heroism of epic description. This heroism was however distorted by fateful historical events whose effect was so devastating that the present-day Bunyoro Kingdom is viewed as a mere shadow of its old self. Bunyoro Kingdom was the victim of a colonial distortion that changed the balance at a very critical time: during the harnessing of Uganda into the nation-state it is now. The kingdom opposed the forces of the nation-state formation, a position for which it paid dearly. It lost more than three quarters of its territory. By February 1926 when the last changes were made on the borders of Uganda, six of Bunyoro’s counties had been annexed to Buganda; a very big swathe of the 

ugnet_: Re: Cops probe tycoon on homosexuality!

2004-08-12 Thread Rehema Mukooza
LilQT:

1st, you said: "Interesting! Would you say?"= Yes, it's indeedinteresting! I would say. You have toucheda point but you have failed to understandor explain it! Too bad! But I will take it upon myself to enlighten you on the issue.

You said: "Why would somebody want to jeopardize everything by engaging or participating in activities which are frowned upon especially in a society where a lot of people are uninformed,intolerant or are outright ignorant and where there are no shortage of females particularly for tycoons?"

You have observed right, my friend. Homosexual activities are pure Ecstasy! Somebody will risk everything to enjoy Gay sexual activities. If it was not for the great, overpowering sexual ecstasy and pleasure in Gay sexual activities: Do you thinkthat tycoonwould have risked everything for something of no pleasure? Come On!Think, think, it's easy.

There has never been a shortage of females particularly for tycoons. The problem is that these females do not know and will not agree to what men like this tycoon enjoy in sexual activities. Obviously, the tycoon had an Anal-Craving and he got it from these men, according to the story. How many Ugandan ladies would agree to Anal Sex? Be realistic. And even if a small number of them agree, they most probably would not enjoy it. Anatomically it's explainable as to why many would not enjoy it.

However, Gays claim that anal sex is super! when the performee and the performer are bothenjoying it. One is enjoying full-blown Penile sensations, and the other Prostate sensations. The performee tightens his rectum while enjoying prostate sensations caused by the movements and friction of the performer's manhood in his rectum, while the performer "dies" in the great pleasure the frictionbetween thetight rectum and his manhood is providing tohis erectile tissue (manhood). Thus, pleasure for pleasure. Hah! Yiibanange (Huhmm y'all)!Ha ha ha ha, lol lol lol lol kanesekere (let me laugh). 

Lastly:  "I do not know the truth behind this story but it should make you think if you still believe that homosexuality is a choice."

I don't know if you understand this story but it should make you think that homosexuality is a choice. That homosexuality is fun! Atleast, homosexual activities are fun! Homosexuals chose Sexual Pleasure over Social Acceptance. 

You should focus on this question: What kind/amount of sexual pleasure is that?
If you were a critical thinker, you would know the answer to why men choose to become homosexuals. And why they can not give it up no matter what threats they get from society. 

If you were a critical thinker, you would try to find out what is Homosexuality (not the term/word itselfbut the real underground activities). 

If you were a critical thinker, you would not blame Gay men. If you were a critical thinker, you would understand as to why Homosexuality Is A Choice. A choice to seek pleasure over social acceptance. 

No wonder the tycoon almost"...jeopardized everything by engaging or participating in activities which are frowned upon especially in a society where a lot of people are uninformed,intolerant or are outright ignorant and where there are no shortage of females particularly for tycoons." 

I personally do not blame him ebisiyagobiteekwaokuba ngabinyuma (gay sexual activities must be fun)!.Bwoloza ku swiiti ali mu kisiyago nekikunyumira obulungi bwooti, nga gwe awo tojja kukivaako (once you taste the sweetness in gay sexual activities real good, you will not let go). Ha ha ha ha hahahaha...Unless if you mentally numb yourself from enjoying the activities. E.g; straight men who tried it out once but claim not to have liked it. Examples, like those men who are accussing the tycoon of anal-raping them. 

Those men are not looking for justice. They are trying to amend their male ego and get money from the tycoon. Had he given them his car title, would they have reported him to the authorities? Ofcourse, not. Because they would have gotten the money they wanted from him, and boosted their egos. The ego is a tough thing to handle. To be penetrated by another man is considered "weak" as in becoming Dominated over. That's why many Gay-men act "weak" like women (whose biological place is to be penetrated,thus dominated over). 

You see, when Anyomokolo talks about Patriarchy. Gay Males are suffering from it too. Men and women, gays and lesbians all have patriarchy mentalities installed in them from society. They all consider the penetratee as a "weak" person and the penetrator as dominant one. Gay males who are penetrated act like women to portray their "weakness" of being dominated over. Lesbians who "penetrate?" act like men to show their "strength/dominance" in their sexual activities. 

The accusers of the tycoon are suffering from Patriarchy. They are set on a mission to regain their psychological power as men. Blackmail is their strategy. The accused (tycoon) also suffers from the same. He is using his 

ugnet_: Re: Lesbian mentality

2004-08-12 Thread Rehema Mukooza
NileSpring:

You have just raised an important issue that I have never thought about before.

Are Lesbians financiallybetter off thanStraight women?

Hhmm, this is going to be my next research project.



Zakoomu M.

m9nilespring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard Mukasa let freedom rich. Uganda is fighting for freedom of choice. If a woman wants to be a lesbian it is her choice. I don't know what type of village you are talking from. You might be coming from a village with a stupid chief telling you exactly what you should do whenever you meet a woman. By the way how many bustards have you furthered? What worries you if a woman doest come to an agreement with her sexuality? I thought it is her right to be what she wants to be. I am very sorry to hear that millions of people from your village who give birth to millions of unwanted children are not proud of what they have produced. I am watching National Geographic on a daily basis. I have seen many children you have furthered walking naked and crying for food. Also I h
 ave seen
 the women you consider to be fruitful and wise with ugly breasts feeding sick children and they are beginning for a lesbian woman for money to help them feed their useless babies.Lesbian don't cry for food. They are always self sufficient. You have never seen one on National TV begging for food. I can't believe that you could even think about finding a psychiatrist for me. First evaluate yourself before you suggest you should find one. I might think you should find one for yourself for advice of how you can save your village from starvation. I don't have a lot of sleepless nights. I don't have to worry so much about the things you worry about as a farther. This has purified my brain and I have so much time to do so many things women and men like you miss. I am totally independent. I am not a beggar for men. I am totally financially very stable. Go to
 hero or go get a life, I am an independent woman. Free at last thank God almighty I m free at last.



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ugnet_: Re: Entebbe Airport for $160m makeover -- over 5 years

2004-08-12 Thread Rehema Mukooza
I agree with you. The peasants are on another ride!

The govt is to spend $160m on an airport while Buganda was assigned $80m to cater for the roads, education, health, administration, etc. Apparently, an airport is twice as important to these peoplethan Uganda's region (Buganda). 

Who makes these kind of budgets? 


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Entebbe Airport for $160m makeover
By Steven Odeu THE Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) is planning to splurge $160m (280b) over the next five years on a facelift of Entebbe International Airport, funded by the private and public sectors, a top official has said. Ambrose Akandonda, the CAA managing director, said in an interview recently, the American-based consultancy firm, LPA Group, had already completed a conceptual study to transform the airport into a world-class business centre. LPA Group recommended the construction be done in phases, with the first phase expected to start soon, costing $12m (about sh21b). Projects to be done within this financial year include expanding the arrival hall at a cost of sh1.7b and construction of two air bridges that will connect the terminal building to the aircraft. There will also be work on the escalators and elevators in the terminal building, costing about sh700m. CAA will also work on the stabilisation of airport power supply 
 by
 installing a 4000kva automatic voltage stabiliser at a cost of sh500m. “This will be our first step to turning this airport from a terminal building for handling passengers to a modern airline business centre where one can receive all types of services which can be found in any city. Next would be licensing the interested firms to set up supermarkets, cargo stores, hotels, entertainment centres, and processing zones,”Akandonda said.
Published on: Thursday, 12th August, 2004
US $32M per year? Sounds like alot of bread to me. Could even get a whole new airport for that kind of money...
Who is LPA Group, USA?
Is CAA a private entity or a govt. body? In the latter case, I fear the peasant is about to be taken to the cleaners, again! Corporate welfare is alive and well.
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ugnet_: Re: Cops probe tycoon on homosexuality!

2004-08-12 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Shamilah:

Sometime not all situations can be termed as "for" or "against." 

I am not against Homosexuality and I am not for Homosexuality. I am an observer who is trying to understand Homosexuality from the core. My thirst for knowledge and understanding of taboo issues (like homosexuality) has led me to many discoveries. I am a very curious person, ifyou didn't know now you know. 

If I turn against homosexuality; How will I find the information aboutHomosexual sexual activities thatI am looking for? Turning against Homosexual does not help my cause (knowledge)but hurt it. 

Nditegeera ntya era ndi manya ntya engeri gyebaryaamu ebisiyaga ne gyebabinyumirwaamu singa mba mbivumirira? Nze nnonya kumanya biffa ku bisiyaga n'obuwoomi obubirimi. Okumanya ebiffa ku bisiyaga tekyirina kyekinkosa! Nze njagala kumanya, era kaneyongereyo nerabire ku bali be bisiyaga. 

Loosely translated as "How will I acquire knowledge of gay sexual activities and the pleasure involved if I am against gays? I am searching forknowledge about gay sexual activities and the pleasure involved. Knowledge of that can not harm me! I want to know, and let me go do some more watching." 

If I turn to pro-Homosexuality, I don't think that would help society in the long run either. I would not encourage young men or womento become gays and lesbians. I am pro-fun! I think that If a man enjoys prostate/rectal pleasure, I think he should go ahead with his thing. Being anti-gays will not stop his craving and enjoyments of prostate fun. So, why make his life a living hell? Afterall, it's his life. Everyone on this earth deserves a peacefull, enjoyable life. Gays/Lesbians rights must be respected.

I have told you people once and before that there is something humane about two men on each other. Ancient Greeks (thefounders of modern civilization and philosophy)saw Gayism as a symbol of human sexuality. Theirs was between a mentor who was usually an elder male with a younger male. The time to see a man as a man (without testasterone issues involved) is during gay sexual activities. Hahaha haha hahahah ahaha hahaha... Unlike Hetorosexual sex, during gay sex testasterone and egos are thrown out the window. The gameis ruled by pleasure and ecstasy alone. That is what I call fun to watch! LOL lol lol...


Zakoomu M.


==shamilah bbosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rehema:

You have dwelt on this topic for so long so I have a question: are you for or against gayism/homosexuality? For someone who is not, you sure know alot about it (lol).
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Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

LilQT:

1st, you said: "Interesting! Would you say?"= Yes, it's indeedinteresting! I would say. You have toucheda point but you have failed to understandor explain it! Too bad! But I will take it upon myself to enlighten you on the issue.

You said: "Why would somebody want to jeopardize everything by engaging or participating in activities which are frowned upon especially in a society where a lot of people are uninformed,intolerant or are outright ignorant and where there are no shortage of females particularly for tycoons?"

You have observed right, my friend. Homosexual activities are pure Ecstasy! Somebody will risk everything to enjoy Gay sexual activities. If it was not for the great, overpowering sexual ecstasy and pleasure in Gay sexual activities: Do you thinkthat tycoonwould have risked everything for something of no pleasure? Come On!Think, think, it's easy.

There has never been a shortage of females particularly for tycoons. The problem is that these females do not know and will not agree to what men like this tycoon enjoy in sexual activities. Obviously, the tycoon had an Anal-Craving and he got it from these men, according to the story. How many Ugandan ladies would agree to Anal Sex? Be realistic. And even if a small number of them agree, they most probably would not enjoy it. Anatomically it's explainable as to why many would not enjoy it.

However, Gays claim that anal sex is super! when the performee and the performer are bothenjoying it. One is enjoying full-blown Penile sensations, and the other Prostate sensations. The performee tightens his rectum while enjoying prostate sensations caused by the movements and friction of the performer's manhood in his rectum, while the performer "dies" in the great pleasure the frictionbetween thetight rectum and his manhood is providing tohis erectile tissue (manhood). Thus, pleasure for pleasure. Hah! Yiibanange (Huhmm y'all)!Ha ha ha ha, lol lol lol lol kanesekere (let me laugh). 

Lastly:  "I do not know the truth behind this story but it should make you think if you still believe that homosexuality is a choice."

I don't know if you understand this story but it should make you think that hom

ugnet_: Re: Lesbian Mentality

2004-08-12 Thread Rehema Mukooza
NileSpring:

You raised the issue of Lesbians feeding Straight women's unplanned babies, and I thought that was a briliant point. However, you have not helped me pin it down. I don't know if you have vaible evidence to your assertions or not but you could have done much better to conceive meon thatpoint. 

I have no doubts that you are a happily married person. Why don't you date Ugandans? Or well, before your American man? I have never came across a Ugandan male in this diaspora who called a Ugandan lady who refused to date him a Lesbian. I have never came across such a thing. That's news to me. 

I don't even blame you for having an American man. I too have my eyez on Vin Diesel. Hahaha, Allah knows if I'll ever meet that guy. He is soo hot! The hottest male I've ever layed my eyez on, in my perspective ofcourse. However, I think that one should be with someone because she/he loves the other person, but not because the other person is an American. Nze believes in love at first sight. If there isn't any sparks, butterflies the first time I see a man, I don't even waste my time. Why? Because if I do it will be an artificial love created by ourselves. Which means that such a love can easily be uncreated too. Well, keep loving your man. Take care of each other and enjoy yourselves!

For those who wish to learn moreabout Federo, go to www.federo.com and get yourselves educated on the matter.

Keep the Federo fires burning! Our Kabaka instructed us to do so. 



Zakoomu M.


=m9nilespring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can make your research but I am very happilly married to my beloved Americana man. Believe me, if you don't date Ugandans they call you a Lesbian. Even though this is not the stone age man time, some Ugandan men are still thinking like one.I am just crazy because of Federo. I love my Buganda and I want it to gain the federo status. We are very tired of people like (Kasulu, property masters) who are there to confuse and rob Baganda people.Any Muganda looking for property in Buganda be careful. There so many sick minded Ugandans who want to take advantage of you.God bless Buganda.Love yaa all.



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ugnet_: Re: ANYOMOKOLO'S WMD-KNOWLEDGE

2004-08-08 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Members:

Ha ha ha ha ha lol lol lol @ "...a man gave me this knowledge."

I don't always agree with you 100% but you are right in your quoted words above. Men unintentionally give women knowledge and growth in certain areas of their lives. These mendon't even realize it.


Zakoomu M.
=Anyomokolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

kikati_2k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You are an arrogantly proud daughter of the land. Tame your anger sis, after 4 yours there should not be a any strain of anger. as you are now armed with a WEAPON OF MALE DESTRUCTION...knowledge!

Patriarchy brainwashed me for more than 25yrs, therefore rest assured that my anger will carry on for another 25 years.I am armed with the KNOWLEDGE and knowledge is power.

By the way, a man gave me this knowledge. I am sure he wanted me to use for something. I never had the chance to ask him but I think that he would be proud to know that I making the best of it. 

Weapon of Male Destruction: Knowledge.

You got that flipping right!

Anyo


===kikati_2k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
I agree with you though not completely but what are some of the responses from the men. It would be good to read n compare what they think as i would imagine the reponse of a man in your village assuimng its the 'elite' or educated are the ones responding. you can keep their identity for purposes of confidentiality.I see you dancing ding ding because the men are angry ha ha ha Massaging man's psyche turns Anyo on, my observation dont shoot lol. You are an arrogantly proud daughter of the land. Tame your anger sis, after 4 yours there should not be a any strain of anger. as you are now armed with a WEAPON OF MALE DESTRUCTION...knowledge!All da best in yo research.In how languages has patraichy been translated**--- In
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:  I have never posted a single message to equal number of egroups and received so many angry responses from men. It seems that the men who read me everyday, simply ignored me because they thought that I was wasting my time. "Culture-AConspiracyAgainstWomen" hit patriarchy right below the belt. That is good.   I wait to see what men will say when I tap deep into their psyche as to why men beat their wives. I am very confident that I am the only in the whole who knows the real answer. By the way, it takes me a few minutes to write what I researched and investigated for four damn long years. I am a woman who has lost the ability to do a lot things including thinking and asking and anwering questions about why men do what they do to women.   I am very proud of me. I am a woman with knowledge and KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. I want
  all
 women to have knowledge like myself.   KNOWLEDGE IS POWER  Anyomokolo Has Power  Anyo  ==   mmuganzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Hi Anyo Patriarchy is definately responsible for the surbodination of  women..lol  In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anyomokolo wrote:  Patriarchy-A Conspiracy Against Women.By An African Woman My introduction is the Gospel Truth. I would like any man of any  status from any part of the world to challenge my introduction. __Introduction:Patriarchy (culture and tradition and religion) is a social system  whose mission is to 
 retard a
 girl's mental development by replacing  our moral conviction with culture and tradition and religion so that  we are easy to control, use and abuse by men because men have innate  fear of our vagina and each other's penis. Patriarchy's mission is to  disables a girl's mental development so that we are intellectually  incapable of performing mental tasks to defend ourselves against  evil. ©Child Mental Development.I have read a lot about child mental development and I shall  translate. You don't have to read any text in order to know this but  I like to connect the dots in simple terms. We all know that there is something unique about a child's (under  13yrs old) ability to learn and retain information. The brain of a  child younger than 13, stores whatever information it is given  because i
 t does
 not have a choice. It is the reason we say that "if  you teach your kids this, then that, or that they were (not) raised  properly, or this was how my parents taught me, and bla bla…"In other words, what you learn before you turn 14yrs old, will  determine your character as an adult, but every learnt behavior can  also be unlearnt especially if the environment does not accommodate  it. A brain older than 14yrs old has the ability to select what sort  of information it stores. This also explains the rebellious nature of  a teenager. They rebel 

ugnet_: Re: Picketing in Seatle Washington - to Nansikombi

2004-08-07 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Members:

Lol lol lol hahahaha @ "Giraffe wife"!! Ms. Nansikombi thanks. Hahahaha

On top of that that Giraffe wife's chicks are dropping! Anti ebitama bye byona biri mukuyiika, birebera! Have you noticed that?? 

Her teeth are as long as the Giraffe itself. Whenever that Giraffe smiles or laughs the teethcome first to greet you! That Giraffe needs a serious dental work. 

Next to that is the makkudde (fat around the hip area)! She sure does have a load of fat around those hips. Those "big hips"are not hips but fat. We all know the different between hips and fat, and we know what that Giraffe has. Nothing but fat and bad teeth!


Zakoomu M.

=Joicye nansikombi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dear Mr. Writer.

Oh dear me!, kandekye kagyenzi?? I wonder what type of human being are you. Until now you do not know, that we Ugandans are very very sick and tired of your Kondo,Killer  Lier. man Every time we see his picture we feel like vomiting... Please, If you can reach him or his Giraffe wife tell him we are tired 18 years is along time we do not need him any more. Leave our parties alone. DP.UPC. REFORM AGENDA OOWE..
Do not talk any more. Keep your mouth shut.

Thanks
JN.
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 kandekye kagyenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Brothers  Sisters,

UP... what? Can you imagine folksstill want to affiliate themselves with UPC considering its history. Any Ugandan who has otherconcerns and wants to have a fresh start from these old tired cliques wonders how to start. Personally, UPC turned me off, DP aint shit, I cant stand Federo because all I see ahead is kissing the ground and kneeling down to kiss that Kabakas feet who could not complete his education and looking forward to amonarch.Museveni has done a lot for Uganda but I dont know much about thiskisanja thing and changing the constitution.Please tell usmore aboutwhatUPC has to offer other than terrorizing the population as the order of the day.

Thanks,

Kandekye Kagyenzi



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Re: ugnet_: FW: Men like Adriko Co.should be castrated.

2004-08-04 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Ssenyange:

Those girls can pick up their lives from where they left off, but it depends on how much psychological damage is done to them and how resilient they are. 

I have a feeling that these girls shall pass the pain they are feeling now. They are 3 andthey have each other to fall onto for support through this hard time. Rape victims who do not report the incidents to police are mainly the ones who experience the most psychological damage. They are the ones who "loose" life, hope, etc because they fell defeated.

But for a woman or girl to report a rape case to the authorities, that hints at signs of resilience that "I am not defeated, I have to revenge". Thosegirls did the right thing. They shall pass the psychological trauma ofit butthey will have to face the social stigmas out there about rape victims. 

The Uganda Police should abide by a privacy policy. They should stop giving out thevictims' identity and addresses. The people will loose confidence in theirabilityto protect people's privacyagainst the public.

I agree with you that Adriko and company should serve jail time.We should make castration as the punishment for such brutal rapes. Such criminals are wasting tax payers' money in jail. We should castrate them.


Zakoomu M.

ssenya nyange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NettersWhat kind of life will these girls have? They have "lost" life, hope etc . You would think that Missach Adriko, son of Dr. Adriko, wouild have some sense of civilized behaviour. Instead, he's kidnapping, gang rape, spread HIV with no condom to school girls! Such men should loose their manhood.J. Ssenyange---Welcome To Bukedde online: Uganda's leading vernacular daily Abawala 3 babawambye bava ku ssomero Abawala 3 babawambye bava ku ssomero Babiri ku bawala abaawambiddwa ku Ssande nga bava ku ssomero. Bya Deborah Nanfuka ABAWALA basatu baabadde bava ku ssomero, emmotoka n'ebasibirako ne muvaamu abasajja abaa
 badde
 n'ebiso ne babawamba. Baabatutte mu kalina e Bukoto ne babasobyako mu mpalo ppaka obudde okukya. Abawala bonsatule (amannya galekeddwa) bava mu maka gamu e Mengo. Omu wa myaka 16 asomera Mengo SS, omulala ow'emyaka 18 wa Caltec Academy e Makerere n'omulala asoma mu Old Kampala. Ku Ssande akawungeezi baabadde batambula okumpi ne Lutikko e Namirembe ku kkubo eriggula ku Balintuma Road gye babeera, emmotoka y'obuyonjo n'ebasibirako. Mwabuuseemu abasajja basatu abaabadde n'ebiso ne babalagira okuyingira mu mmotoka. Olwo essaawa zaabadde mu 3.00 ez'ekiro. Baabakubye kalifoomu era okuddayo okutegeera nga bali Bukoto mu White Flats. Abasajja bano baayiiridde abawala amazzi, kalifoomu n'abaggwako ne babalagira okuggyamu engoye. Abawala bano baategeezezza nti bakira abasajja babeebakako mu mpalo ate nga tebalina kondomu. Obwed
 da baba
 tebannakyusa kuva ku muwala omu kudda ku mulala nga babalagira okubanuuna obusajja. Abawala balowooza nti abasajja bano baliko ebiragala bye bakozesa obutakoowa kubanga okuva lwe baatandise okukulusanya abawala tebaakooye ppaka obudde okukya. Ku maliiri ga Mmande, abasajja babiri baakedde kufuluma ne baleka munnaabwe Messach Adriko Lumumba akolera mu kitongole ky'omusolo, URA, ng'akuuma abawala. Yatandise okusumagirira mu ntebe, olwo abawala kwe kugezaako okutoloka n'azuukuka ekyaddiridde kulwana nga bwe bakuba enduulu n'awalirizibwa okubaggulirawo era baasibidde ku poliisi ye Kira Road. Akulira poliisi eyo, Patrick Echeku yagambye nti yasindise abaserikale kyokka Lumumba ne yeerema okuggulawo n'agattako okutiisatiisa bw'alina emmundu era ajja kubakuba amasasi. Dr. Eric Adriko eyali omumyuka wa Katikkiro wa Uganda yay
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ugnet_: RE: Musaka Richard is Homophobic!

2004-08-04 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Vukoni:

Are you a secure man?? Are you a non-Gay man who plays with his prostate for pleasure?? LOL Because I think that is themost secure a man can get. That is a man who is not afraid of his body's calling for prostate pleasure. A man who is attracted to the female race and sleeps with them. A man who is not into male-male sexual activities. A man who does not ignore his body parts. That isa secure man.

What is insecure to you?? Does Mukasa's religious homophobic waymean insecurity?? Maybe, Mukasa is Gay without knowing it. Otherwise, I agree with you on what you've said.

Zakoomu M.

===[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rehema,

I must say, Amina, to this. And those others who massage their prejudices by reading selectively from the Bible, Quran, Ifa, etc, beware of the tyranny of the Book. Also beware of obsolescence masquerading as eternal truth through the mouths of insecure men (and sometimes unfortunately women).

vukoni
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 Original Message Subject: ugnet_: Re: Musaka Richard is Homophobic!From: "Rehema Mukooza" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri, July 30, 2004 4:22 amTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stacy:

Mukasa isreligiously convincinghimself as a way to stregthen the book's stories' hold on his mind. The man is testing his belief in the end of the world and the coming of however to take him to heaven. There is nothing I can do about that kind of thought-control the book has on him. He alone can refuse or accept. But apparently, acceptance is the easy way of comfort and assurance of hisimaginations of going to heaven. His imagination is at work. 

I will go ahead and inform the public about the nature of Gay and Lesbians sexual activities. These people are contributing members of society who deserve equal rights. These people are having fun with their bodies. How do their actions affect Mukasa?? This Mukasa has already confessed to the seduction he saw in their eyes. He is using his homophobic religious thought-control to spread nonsense. I can not buy into his ideas for he can not question the basis of these stories. All he is telling me is how much he believes the stories reads in his book.

My message to you all isto use your body parts for pleasure as much as you want. There is nothing wrong with seeking pleasure. Gays and Lesbians are having fun! Heterosexuals are having fun too! The goal is to expand your pleasuredom. Awaken every nerve, passion, anddrawn in it. Redeem yourselves intotal, consumingpleasure.


Zakoomu M.

===stacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


Mukasa Richard:
Is it possible you react to emails and not delete whatever u r reacting to. Its really hard to shoot back asthere are noreferences to make.

Moderator I dont know ifu got anything to say to that.

thnx







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ugnet_: Federo: Buganda Is Open To All - says Katikkiro

2004-08-02 Thread Rehema Mukooza




Buganda open to all - Katikiro








MEET OUR DEMANDS: Katikkiro Joseph Ssemwogerere
THE Katikkiro of Buganda, Joseph Ssemwogerere, meets President Yoweri Museveni on Tuesday to discuss Buganda’s demands. He told Hamis Kaheru exactly what Buganda wants: QUESTION: Baganda seem to be unhappy with the constitutional review process. Why? ANSWER: Whereas we rejected the Charter in the 1995 Constitution, the Ssempebwa Commission recommended that the districts that form a regional tier should have representatives from district councils to form a Constituency Assembly (CA). This CA would prepare a constitution for each regional tier. But to our surprise, although both the 1995 Constitution and the Ssempebwa Commission recommended a constitution for each tier, Cabinet is saying the tier should not have a separate constitution. Cabinet says the Constitution of Uganda should take care of all the peculiarities of the various areas. We do not think that this is a step towards federalism. We think this is LC6 and we are not looking 
 for LC6.
 Q: What do you want then? A: We would like the democratically elected representatives from the districts to team up with the present Lukiiko, form the CA and prepare a constitution for our tier. This constitution should not be in contravention of or contradiction with the national constitution. Q: Has Cabinet rejected the proposed regional constitution? A: They don’t want it. But Ssempebwa recommended a constitution and 1995 recommended a constitution. The Cabinet seems to think that we should not have separate constitutions. But we don’t think that can be called Federo. Q: What would be in the tier’s constitution that can’t be catered for in the national constitution? A: The national Constitution cannot take care of the peculiarities of Buganda. We have got our culture and it has nothing to do with the rest of Uganda. The Constitution of Uganda undertakes to respect people’s various cul
 tures
 and the quest for Federo is to take care of the special peculiarities of various areas in terms of development, culture and peace. Q: What would be the Kabaka’s role under a regional constitution? A: The Kabaka was removed from politics in 1955 and we have no intention of bringing him back to politics because the chief executive is the Katikkiro. Q: Do you want power to collect taxes under Federo? A: We don’t like to collect taxes at all. The central government should continue to collect taxes and give back what we deserve. Q: There is suspicion that Baganda want Federo so they can chase away non-Baganda. A: Non-Baganda have been living in Buganda for a very long time. I do not remember of anybody who has ever been chased from Buganda for being a non-Muganda. I know of people who have been chased from other areas just because they do not belong there, for example in Kibaale, Teso, Toro and Kasese but no
 t in
 Buganda. Buganda is extremely accommodating. Buganda is the only place where you can have non-Baganda MPs. They are about 10 or more. So, the accusation is of course totally untrue. Q: You are asking for 9,000 sq. miles of land. What is it about? A: This is unallocated land which was preserved for future generations of Buganda and it was protected by the colonial government. On October 8, 1962 this land was handed over to Buganda and we set up Buganda Land Board (BLB). When Obote abolished the 1962 Constitution he confiscated all the property and assets of Buganda and the 9,000sq. miles became Crown Land. When President Yoweri Museveni comes to correct the wrongs, instead of returning the land to Buganda he gives it to the districts. The Kabaka is here. Why not give it back to him? Q: Where is this land and who is managing it today? A: In Kiboga, Luweero, Sembabule etc. We don’t count that of Buyaga and Bugangayizi becaus
 e it
 went back to Bunyoro in a referendum. Of course, it is no longer 9,000sq. miles because districts have allocated themselves this land. But there are some unallocated patches. We want the BLB to control this land. We can still keep the district land committees but they work on behalf of the BLB. They can allocate and send returns. This is not freehold. It is leasehold. Q: What is the government’s response to this suggestion? A: They are suggesting that the land remains in the district and we are saying ‘No’. Q: Have you convinced other regions to accept federalism? A: When the government fell in love with decentralisation, they went out and taught it. They started with Mukono District as a test case. When they found out that it was doing well, they spread it all over the place. Why don’t they do the same with Federo? The reason why governments don’t want to give Federo is because of division of power and resources.
 Q: Do you accept the idea of Mengo Municipality? A: Yes. Mengo Municipality would take care of our cultural sites. The minicipality will have a mayor. It will not be headed by the Kabaka. The Kabaka is the head of Buganda. Kampala can be the 

ugnet_: Re: Homosexuality is a CHOICE - mukasa

2004-07-30 Thread Rehema Mukooza

It's amazing how stories in a book can control people'sthoughts! 

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Mukasa Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GAY BISHOP SINCE JUDAS ISCARIOT'S WAS ONE OF JESUS'S DESCIPALS.
THIS GAY BISHOP KNOWS VERY WELL WHO HE IS WORKING FOR.
IN ENGLAND ALONE ,SATAN HAS ALREADY PENETRATED THE CHURCH.OUR QUEEN HAS ALREADY APPOINTED ANOTHER GAY MAN TO BE THE BISHOP READING.
IT IS BECAUSE YOU GUYS DON'T READ THE BIBLE BUT ALL THIS IS NOT NEW TO WE THE SAINTS. THESE ARE THE TRUE SIGNS THAT SHOW THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
I TOLD YOU THAT AS IT WAS IN SODOM AND GOMORRAH THAT IS HOW IT IS GOING TO BE.
DON'T BE MISLED BY THESE SINNERS, THIS IS JUST A BLIND PANIC FOR THEM.
IT DOESN'T MATTER EVEN IF THEY BECOME BISHOPS OR PRESIDENTS , FOR THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE SINNERS AND THAT THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED.
IT IS ONLY REPENTANCE THAT CAN SAVE THEM .BECOMING BISHOPS OR PRIME MINISTERS CAN SAVE THEM.
I DON'T WARSHIP BISHOPS ,FOR MY GOD IS THE GOD OF ABRAHAM ,MOSES DAVID AND JACOB.
HE IS THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH , THE BEGINNING AND THE END.
HE IS ALMIGHTY FOR NO SINNER CAN CHALLENGE HIM NOT EVEN A SINGLE GAY MAN OR WOMAN.
GLORY BE TO GOD THE MOST HIGH.
THE SINS OF THE WICKED MAKE MY FAITH GROW STRONGER AND STRONGER.
MAY THE LORD BE WITH YOU ALL.
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ugnet_: Re: Musaka Richard is Homophobic!

2004-07-30 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Stacy:

Mukasa isreligiously convincinghimself as a way to stregthen the book's stories' hold on his mind. The man is testing his belief in the end of the world and the coming of however to take him to heaven. There is nothing I can do about that kind of thought-control the book has on him. He alone can refuse or accept. But apparently, acceptance is the easy way of comfort and assurance of hisimaginations of going to heaven. His imagination is at work. 

I will go ahead and inform the public about the nature of Gay and Lesbians sexual activities. These people are contributing members of society who deserve equal rights. These people are having fun with their bodies. How do their actions affect Mukasa?? This Mukasa has already confessed to the seduction he saw in their eyes. He is using his homophobic religious thought-control to spread nonsense. I can not buy into his ideas for he can not question the basis of these stories. All he is telling me is how much he believes the stories reads in his book.

My message to you all isto use your body parts for pleasure as much as you want. There is nothing wrong with seeking pleasure. Gays and Lesbians are having fun! Heterosexuals are having fun too! The goal is to expand your pleasuredom. Awaken every nerve, passion, anddrawn in it. Redeem yourselves intotal, consumingpleasure.


Zakoomu M.

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Mukasa Richard:
Is it possible you react to emails and not delete whatever u r reacting to. Its really hard to shoot back asthere are noreferences to make.

Moderator I dont know ifu got anything to say to that.

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ugnet_: Re: Homosexuality Is A Choice - Anyomo....

2004-07-26 Thread Rehema Mukooza

Anyo:

1st. the "Author-Homosexuality Is A Choice" is not a member of the Ugandan Free Speech group. Either direct your comment to the author's websiteor we members of these groups are going to respond to you comment. Here I go...

Are you sure you fully understand what you are talking about?? 
You sound very ignorant on this homosexuality topic. However much you have triedyour argumentin biological mechanisms, you are not convincing. I don't blame you, most people do not understand it either. It's not like you are alone. 

You said: "...ourbrain automatically interprets 'it' andwe respond physiologically with an erection orvaginal discharge, which is indicative ofour desire to penetrate or be penetrated."

Just so you know, Gay men too respond to the brain's automaticinterpretationphysiologically with erections which is indicative of gay men's desire to penetrate. Lesbians too have vaginal discharges indicative of their desire to be penetrated.

You said: "A criteria for an erectionis themental or physicalpresents of a vagina." IDo NOTagree to that. I am a critical thinker.

I believe the criteria for an erection is the mental presents of a penetrable, pleasure-giving opening.That penetrable, pleasure-giving openingcould be the mouth, rectum, or the vagina. 
I). Otherwise, why would a mouth or rectum hold an erection for minutes or hours?? Are you trying to tell us that an erection would end the moment the mental or physical presents of a vagina ends?? That is not true.
II). Or are you telling us that men who penetrate the ass and the mouth are "mentally presenting themselves with vaginas" as they go along physically penetrating and enjoying the mouth and ass?? That too is not true either.
III). Then, why would men penetrate the vagina (get tired of it) and then penetrate the rectum??

Ask yourself before you think you are right: Why do men love rectum-penetration (on both men and women)?? My answer is that the rectum is a pleasure-giving, penetrable opening men (gay andstraight) mentally presents themselves. Actually, it might be more pleasure giving than both the mouth and vagina. I will find out more about rectal pleasure as I continue watching and investigating.

You said: "The degree ofcruelty thatthe opposite sexexerts oneach other, can set the brain to 'refuse' to interpret toachieve thephysiological responses thatI described above." Hahahlol lol Anyomokolo you must be going dumb.

There is no "cruelty" in gay or lesbian sexual activities unless if the parties want it rough. Gay men and Lesbians' brains have never "refused" to interpret to achieve the physiological responses (an erection  vaginal discharges) that you have described above. The ultimate goal is to penetrate or be penetrated and the bodies are mentally ready and then physically ready.

If the brain "refused" to interpret, how can there be physiological responses of an erection or vaginal discharges in gay and lesbians?? I am sure the body can not work without its brain. Get your mind straight. And you saidthat you have a "degree in Sexology"?? Did I hear that right?? Girl, please! Don't even try it. 

You said:"Although acquired fromthe environment, these individuals are not making choices. Let me acknowledge that there arehomosexuals who make choices to satisfy their curiosity and/or experiment." You contradict yourself.

Also being a straight or gay is all acquired from the environment. But theenvironment (social pressure/acceptance) can exert itself on someone to be straight or gay. Example 1: a man and a woman together. The environment of a man is a woman and if he responds to her, she is going to lead him towards heterosexual ism. The environment of that woman too is that man and if he responds to her, he is going to lead her towards heterosexuality. The environment of society will strongly support and encourage that. Example 2:a man and a man together. One man's and another's environment is the other man, if they respond to each other, they will lead each other towards homosexual ism. Society will strongly oppose and discourage their actions. 

You can term it as "satisfaction of their curiosity and/or experiment" but that's the CHOICE they made. How long can a satisfaction of a curiosity and/or experiment last?? Are you trying to convince me that being gay or a lesbian is the choice to satisfy a curiosity and/or experiment but not a CHOICE?? Stop bulls**ting!

You said: "High testosterone and estrogen levels can determine which gender we aresexually attracted to and the braininterprets either way.Personally, I have very high level, which means my brain always interprets." Hahaha, lol lol.

Are you trying to say that gay men have low testosterone levels?? 
And lesbians have low estrogen levels?? 

Hhmm, I have seen many straight women who have physical evidences that indicate that they have natural high levels of testosterone. There are also many lesbians who have physical evidences that indicate that they have high levels of 

ugnet_: Re: Homosexuality is a CHOICE.

2004-07-24 Thread Rehema Mukooza

You two are wack!

Let us talk about Male-Homosexuality, because it's what really interests me more than female-homosexuality. It's a phenomenonto watch two, three, or four men on each other. I find it very interesting and the more I watch, the more I get curious. It's fun watching men on men (to me)! Watching them test each other'ssexual intaketo the maximum. Ha ha ha ha, lol lol lol. There is something beautiful, humane about a man on a man.

From my observations, I think that homosexuality is a CHOICE. It has nothing to do with a man's testosterone levels. Many gay men have higher testosterone levels thannon-gay men. It is not something uncontrollable. A man can grab homosexuality and hold on, or let go. He has a choice. 

However, the choices are:prostate stimulations orpenile stimulations or both. What's your choice?? Hahaha, lol lol lol... That's the only difference between homosexual males and heterosexual males. Huh, Allah knows...these gay men love (I mean love )prostate stimulations. I mean having another man's manhood inside that butt and letting those crushing sensations of prostate orgasms flow is not a joke! It is said that gay men are actually experiencing greater levels of sexual pleasure than straight men. Anatomically, scientifically it's possible and very explainable. Gay men receive "twice" the amount of sexual pleasure and satisfaction than non-gay men. Believe it or not. It's the reality.

While these Anyomokolos are blabbingabout with their wide vaginas and how they can take on big manhoods, a gay man is receiving full-blown pleasure from another man's tight anal opening. From the anatomical perspective, whena man is receiving prostate pleasure he tightens, contracts his kegal muscles (muscles between the scrotum and anus, and those in the anus). Can you believe this phenomenon! One man is drowning in the sea of prostate pleasurecausing his anal muscles to squeeze, tighten, while the other man's manhood is dying in thispure pleasure the tight anus is providing. Pleasure for Pleasure. What a beautiful splendor that is! 

No wonder these men love each other. What more sexual pleasure could a woman's body offer them?? Come on, now! A gay manis most likely to remain gay and never to return to heterosexual ism. Once a man (it could be any man)sees the light (total sexual completion)in gay sexual activities, he will never come back again. He has nothing to loose but gaining the other "half" of his sexual pleasure that heterosexual ism denies him. The man's natural right is literally taken away from him by society's pro-heterosexual stigma. 

With all that carnal flow of sexual pleasure, do you people really think that these men will stop being gay. To become straight again is to give up "half" of their sexual pleasure. Do you think a fellow who is addicted that stuff is going tocare what society says or thinks about him?? The fellow loves his private pleasure and society can only interfere but so far. Somebody is going to leave somebody alone. Society will either leave them alone or they will leave society alone (and do their stuff in the closet). 

Gay men are having fun! We should never feel sorry for them. Their situation is based on CHOICE. And they chose to be gay over society. But the question is: Why?? Being gay must be fun. No kidding! Sexual pleasure (gay) Vs. Social acceptance.Well, Sexual pleasure has overpowered Social acceptance in the eyes of gay men. The question then becomes:What amount of Sexual Experience can that be? Ask gay men, theyunderstand what sexual light means and what it is. 

Heterosexual men have no idea. These women who are running around them (hetero-men)offer nothing compared to what a man can offer another man. Ask a gay man what his choice would be: a man or a woman?? Hahaha, lol lol.Homosexual men are on a higher sexual level than heterosexual men. When these hetero-men underestimate gay men's manhoods, I think they are ignorant and not thinking right. I mean, Who gets more pleasure than who?? The only thing hetero-men are good for is boosting over how many women they have slept with in their lives (Social Acceptance). While a gay man's (Sexual Pleasure)experience farther exceeds that of a hetero-man at the count of 100/50. 

Gay men gave up Social Acceptance and chose Sexual Pleasure!
Straight men chose Social Acceptance over Sexual Pleasure!

Who is a true playa?? Playing out his own real game according to his own rules.
Who is living life by social expectations?? Living life by society's rules.
Whom should we feel sorry for?? Life is too short to deny your heart's desires. 

Some men have chosen to become transsexuals. Meaning that they have gotten their penises and scrotums surgically removed and reshaped their frontal pelvic fronts to look like those of women (artificial exterior vagina). Transsexual men see no use of their manhoods if the prostate/anus is their main source of pleasure. To them it's: Who needs a penis?? Come on, p'eps! Hahaha, lol 

ugnet_: Re: UPC Hunts for 15 Abducted Officials

2004-07-17 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Matek:

Sometimes Evil (UPC) can not be fought by Good (Buganda). 
It should be fought by another kind of Evil (NRM).

Evil vs. Evil. What are the odds??

Zakoomu M.===[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yet another clear evidence implicating the Museveni Military dictatorship in the torture of our members and fellow citizens. Those who think that a people can take this kind of abuse forever( twenty year and counting) are dead wrong. Matek 
UPC Hunts for 15 Abducted Officials  Email This Page Print This Page Visit The Publisher's Site   The Monitor (Kampala)July 16, 2004 Posted to the web July 15, 2004 Patrick Elobu AngonuLira The UPC Presidential Policy Commission Chairman, Dr James Rwanyarare, has said his party has mounted a massive search for its 15 supporters allegedly arrested from Lango by security operatives last week.Rwanyarare told The Monitor by telephone on Wednesday the 15 were members of the executive committees for Lira and Apac. They went missing two weeks ago. Rwanyarare accused the Chieftaincy of Military Intelligence (CMI) and other security operatives of being responsible for the 'abduction."We are moving from police stat
 ion to
 police station searching for our supporters," he said.Rwanyarare, who declined to name the abducted men said they had been able to locate seven of them in a Kampala security detention centre following a tip off by well wishers.Relevant Links East Africa Uganda Arms and Military Affairs Legal and Judicial Affairs "We shall not name them for now for fear that they may be killed before habeas corpus has been issued by court," he said after naming Mr CP Okello whom he said was in bad shape after CMI tortured him.He said the manhunt had led them to locate seven members so far. He said two were being detained at Kampala Central police Station.



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ugnet_: Decency in Language!

2004-07-14 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Members:

One Rule: Decency in Langauage. 

What is "Decency"?? = Decency at the Ugandan Free Speech group is this:
[s**t - for - shit] 
[f**k - for - fuck] 
[ka**bali - for - kacabali] 
[pu**y - for - pussy]
etc etc etc.
I have taken these examples directlyfrom therecent postings of members who have decided to refuse to follow the Rule. The examples above which I've given are a copy of the Rule (Decency) and how it must be followed. 

The displayment of the real indecent language is out-of-order for me to say but, I have to let you people know where the line cuts. It is my responsibility to accurately inform you of the Rule and how every member MUST follow it. Because our group it driven by "free speech", we intend to have members freely express themselves with anyword they, he, she, it choses to use for _expression_. However those words chosen by members MUST be made Decent before a member posts such indecency to the group. 

Ya'llpeople must be feeling tipsy! High on waragi and malwa!
There are consequences for failure of Decency. Do you peopleknow what they are??
I am just wondering, in case the illusion of untouchable has caught some of you.

This group is not about how many indecent words a member can say or knows. Our goal is free _expression_ and if one expresses him/herself withcuss words, he/she MUST make thosecuss words - Decent. Ya'll should get that! I have no time to repeat myself over and over again. Ya'll are adults! Show that you are!


Zakoomu M.
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ugnet_: Re: THE WOMEN IN MA LIFE!!!

2004-07-10 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Shamilah:

Oh come on! It's not about "bringingother women down" but examining their characters and pointing out flaws. What's wrong with that?? It's not time for getting emotional. Nobody is watering anybody down in order to feel good or look better. Pointing out a flaw in another woman is not projecting pain towards her. How can she feel pain that's not there?? That should tell you that there is pain in this woman and nobody is projecting it to her/them but her/them doing it to her/themselves. Why?? = Lack of Common Sense!

I personally do not think that a person (a woman -if you may) who has endured and gone through bad experiences is Someone of Wisdom. How can that be?? Explain. 
Where was this Wisdom before these bad experiences?? Let us get real. Let's put those emotions aside. We do not measure Wisdom by how much mistakes a fellow has done and how much he/she has learned from them. We measure Wisdom by what a fellow has achieved and the mistakes he/she has avoided from getting into. 

Have I ever admired the strength of a single mother?? = NO! There is no Strength in her for me to admire. How can a person with Wisdom admire single motherhood and all the pains in it?? Single mothers have no choice but to look after their DNA (kids). So what?? Everyone whether single or married has got to look after his/her DNA's survival. There is nothing unusual or shocking in that, that's the DNA survival way of the living. 

Whoever wrote that article below must have been smoking weed! The examples of: Mary Magdalene a prostitute who gave up prostitution after finding security in Prophet Jesus (a man) and becoming his closest follower; Esther who wasunfortunate in marrying an abusive man and ending up marrying the wealthiest man in the land -are not examples in themselves for this article's writer's point. I have to criticize this writer for painting these women (Mary and Esther) as women with No Common Sense-will on theirown to better themselves without Men. Where is the "Strength" point in these women?? Where would these women be without the men (Prophet Jesus  the Wealthiest man in the Land)?? Where would these women's Common Sense be?? Let us think, really think.

Many people out there (like this article's author) are making women fools out of themselves. Having sympathy and tolerance for silliness, stupidity, lack of Common Sense is not what will help our fellow simple-minded women. What they need is to discover Sense within. These women need to wake upand many times their sleep is so deep that Nobody can wake them up but they, themselves. 

A qoute from the article: "A woman who has endured the most unusual life is someone of wisdom, someone who has been chosen by God to go through things that have made her stronger." Such a statement is religiously charged and ignoring Common Sense. Why would a Wise person chose to go through things in order to become stronger?? A Wise person proves that one's Strength is with one using her Wisdom to avoid going through 'things.' 
Another qoute: "After all, she has probably been through the fire and had to rebuild." How can a Wise person enter fire that she sees?? Is that Wisdom, kweeri?? Ha ha ha, lol this article is emotionally charged and not offering Sense to those who might be seeking it. 

Another qoute: "Other women only fill it when it is needed.Their cars usually break down." This is how silly this article has gone. Whose car has broken down:A single mother, A battered wife, or A married mother, A Never-Has-Been physically tortured wife?? Whose car is breaking down??Ha ha ha, lol lol, may Allah bless the writer of this article! because this article has turned to funny. 
Here is a silly quote: "Have you ever wondered about that woman who appears to have everything, yet is still very unhappy? Well,she doesn't have everything. She doesn't have personal validation. This is something that cannot be bought. This is something developed over many mistakes and challenges that have taught lessons of the unbearable." The writer has gone crazy! She is trying to tell us that personal validation comes from 'many mistakes and challenges' but not the Common Sense to avoid these mistakes and challenges. She only validates herself after making mistakes and lessons of the unbearable. 
A quote: "Women are so quick to beat the next one down insteadof trying to hold her up. Before you wonder, "What's up with her?" ask yourself, "What's up with me?" Why do I beat down another woman to build myself up?" 
This article is directed to having women rely on their emotions instead of Common Sense. Why would a Sensible woman "uphold" another woman's lack of Common Sense (mistakes/challenges)?? Is this the kind ofsilliness, simple-mindedness women are to teach their daughters?? What's the lesson to learn from that??
Sensible women should ask themselves, "Why do I point out other women's flaws??, Maybe I have Common Sense. That woman is not me and will never be me."
"P.S. This is what we all 

ugnet_: RE: The Chronicles of Riddick - movie

2004-06-29 Thread Rehema Mukooza
oup that I know of. We talk about anything, you name it: politics, dreams, movies, relationships, federo, patriarchy-ideas, sports, religion, culture, northern-war, suffering, life-stories, racism, disagreements, agreements, feminist-ideas, everything. So, I really don't think that it can get any diverse than that.

You are free to help out by introducing morediverse topicsto the group fordiscussion. What's stopping you?? If you have any ideas go right ahead, but don't trythat easy-way-outof trying to get members out of the group to other"diverse message boards." 
May I ask... How are you helping the group with such silly ideas??Your idea of joining other groups is not a bad one but we are not going to leave our Ugandan Free Speech home. Our group is particularly different and that's what sets us apart from other groups. Our ambiguous, broad, diverse, freedom, anything-you-like attitude is what makesour groupunique.


Zakoomu M.

===Shami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Ki..Remmy!I bet you must be one of those people posting multiples on the Vin Diesel message boards huh? Well no such luck...I guess will just be patient to get those two movies!I agree "NOT all cute, nice-looking, handsome, guys are HOT. NOT all cute, nice-looking, beautiful, women are HOT." Most are all muscles but not brains and the women are either dumb blondes or dumba** brunettes!Julianne Moore's 'Far from Heaven' is one of the best movies I ever watched. I am mostly into the old timers: Denzel Washington, Kevin Costner, Richard Gere, Harrison Ford, but will add Nia Long and Angela Bassett.Where did u learn to write like that...u must be an A+ student. If I tried to write an essay like yours, mine would become monotonous without me noticing plus I would run out of interesting phrases
 eh...tehehe..Would you be interested in joining another more diverse message board?What happened to all the people who used to post here, did you scare them away with your 'bold' statements...hahaha..==--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo! Shami:  I really do not think that Vin Diesel is "just hyped", atleast not with me. I had never heard of Vin Diesel until I watched "Pitch Black", the prequel to "The Chronicles of Riddick". To me "hype" is when people praise an actor even before they get to see the actors' acting abilities. For me, I saw Vin's acting abilities before I even knew the man from anywhere. I discovered his talent in the "Pitch Black" picture, therefore I see more in Vin than just "hype." 
 t;
  To me, Vin Diesel is the greatest actor among the list of great actors in my perspective. Namely: Vin Diesel (Pitch Black), Clark Gable - dead (Gone With The Wind), Stuart Townsend (Queen of the Damned), and Henry Cele (Shaka Zulu). The truth is that I own all four of these guys' movies. I admire all these guys' super acting abilities, but Vin is in a league of his own. I worship him platinum! - (as a human).  What I like about Diesel is that he does not give a F how the characters he plays are lighted or potrayed. He just acts out the characters, and that's exactly what he did in "The Fast and the Furious", "A Man Apart", "Boiler Room", "Knockaround Guys", "XXX", "Pitch Black" and now "The Chronicles of Riddick". The mistake that many people make is that they can not separate a character an actor potrays and how the character is lighted from the actual acto
 r's
 acting abilities.   Many of these Hollywood A-list actors and actresses care a lot about how the characters they play are lighted. Why?? - Because the way their characters (they play) are lighted is what gets them Oscar nominations. I would rate many of these A-list actors as "hype" and many B-listers as incredible, good, outstanding actors who deserve Oscar awards. Some of those A-listers pay money and buy themselves into getting nominated for awards. Did you know that money is that talks when it comes to certain awards, unless if sometimes nominators are serious about the true talents worth awards??  I do drool over Vin Diesel a lot. I aint goin to lie to you, lol lol lol lol. The fact (as I see it) is that there is more to Vin than the exterior. I see a lot of muscular, cute, nice-looking, actors but none of them has what Vin has. L
 ook at
 The Rock, Slyvester Stallone, Arnold Shwartz..., Claude Van Dam..., and many action heroes who are swaggering around with their muscles. These guy's muscles are s**t! They are nothing! They are NOT hot! Ofcourse not to me, in my perspective. Then, look at Leonardo DeCaprio, Ben Affleck, Matt Demon, etc, etc. Those guys are cute, handsome, but NOT hot!   What I have come to realize is that NOT all cute, nice

ugnet_: The Chronicles of Riddick - movie

2004-06-28 Thread Rehema Mukooza

Vukoni:

Unfortunately,a man has got to have the exact amount of testasteroneas that flowing throw Vin Diesel's vessels to cast that kind of remote spell on a woman like me. I can not explain it anybetter than that, except telling you that I see a lot of above-average potential in Vin. He is his own person. A product of himself. A maker of his own destiny. A strength of himself. A weakness of himself. A man who refuses.

When he is on screen, he makes me believe that he is the character he isplaying.Up to now, I still see Vin as Riddick. Don't even ask me why. I believe and get totally absorbed into his acting. A quality that's rear in many of today's actors (not all). I told you that his acting takes me higher. His acting captures, grabs my attention and imagination. I can never ever get enough of him in movies. 

With this kind of love I have for him, Vin Diesel is a god and his spells are effectively working on me. Just by looking at him, he empowers me to greater strength. He is my movie-screen hero. He is my idol.He is the greatest actor! I have female wet-dreamswith that man! He is the hottest man on planet-earth! 

I have always wanted to find an actor whom I can identify with on the screen for quite sometime. I've watched many actors in moviesand I failed to findthat qualityin them. The moment I saw "Pitch Black" was the moment I found the actor Iperfectly identify with on the screen. Ever since then, I have been a fan of Vin Diesel and hisRiddick character.

About this "remote" thing going on. I do not think that I will ever meet the man in person. But then again,I have never met a god??For therest, I am to find him on movie screens. He also has another movie to come out in 2005 called "The Pacifier". I'll be patiently waiting for that too. In the mean time, let us go to the movie theatre and watch "The Chronicles of Riddick". I've already watched it twice. A third time,...maybe.

Vin is hot!


Zakoomu M.
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Rehema,

Now I am really beginning to envy Van Diesel. I wish I could cast as powerful aspellon a woman that remotely.

v
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Vukoni:

I don't even blame myself for praising Vin Diesel. What's there not to praise about him?? The man has become a god to me, he is my religion. I breath him, live him, and dream him in in-between my legs! Hahahah, lol lol lol lol... What some sweet dreams I havewith his man!

I'll keep on idolizing him until the Almighty Allah unplugs me out of this Matrix. Life is a pile of fun, pleasure, dreams, andmean s**t anyhow. So, why shouldn't Ifantasize about Vin Diesel?? Do I have areasonable reason for not liking that man?? I have no choice but to worship the greatest actor in my perspective. The hottest man on this planet! 

For now, let's go to the movie theatre and watch "The Chronicles of Riddick." 
I have just finished watching it for the 2nd time in theatre and I can not get enough of Riddick (Vin Diesel). I can not wait until "The Chronicles of Riddick" comes out on DVD and VHSto quenchmy visual  imaginativefan. Definitelywill watch it 40+timesuntil I am visually and imaginativelysatisfied. Addictions die hard.

Ithink the same way I breath, think,live,and dream Vin Diesel is the same way he breathes, thinks, lives, and dreams the Riddick character. Vin and I, both fell in love with Riddick.Vin rocks me hard...hmm, really hard! The man rubbed on me, I can not get enough! Just like this man besides me who rode melast night...hahahaha, lol lol lol lol. It's like they say, like fantasy like reality.

Thesaga continues... Vin Dizz rules!


Zakoomu M.

Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Wow Rehema! That was some mind-blowing panegyric. On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 03:18, Rehema Mukooza wrote:
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ugnet_: Re: The Chronicles of Riddick - movie

2004-06-25 Thread Rehema Mukooza


Vukoni:

I don't even blame myself for praising Vin Diesel. What's there not to praise about him?? The man has become a god to me, he is my religion. I breath him, live him, and dream him in in-between my legs! Hahahah, lol lol lol lol... What some sweet dreams I havewith his man!

I'll keep on idolizing him until the Almighty Allah unplugs me out of this Matrix. Life is a pile of fun, pleasure, dreams, andmean s**t anyhow. So, why shouldn't Ifantasize about Vin Diesel?? Do I have areasonable reason for not liking that man?? I have no choice but to worship the greatest actor in my perspective. The hottest man on this planet! 

For now, let's go to the movie theatre and watch "The Chronicles of Riddick." 
I have just finished watching it for the 2nd time in theatre and I can not get enough of Riddick (Vin Diesel). I can not wait until "The Chronicles of Riddick" comes out on DVD and VHSto quenchmy visual  imaginativefan. Definitelywill watch it 40+timesuntil I am visually and imaginativelysatisfied. Addictions die hard.

Ithink the same way I breath, think,live,and dream Vin Diesel is the same way he breathes, thinks, lives, and dreams the Riddick character. Vin and I, both fell in love with Riddick.Vin rocks me hard...hmm, really hard! The man rubbed on me, I can not get enough! Just like this man besides me who rode melast night...hahahaha, lol lol lol lol. It's like they say, like fantasy like reality.

Thesaga continues... Vin Dizz rules!


Zakoomu M.

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ugnet_: Re: The Chronicles of Riddick - movie

2004-06-21 Thread Rehema Mukooza
ing' to him any time of day if he asked me...tehehehe..Anyway anti u know Ug..some movies take like forever to get here and or not at all, I am yet to check out those two movies u just recommended (though am no fan of Sci-Fi) and I hope the lib am subscribed too has them.Allah be with us all!
==--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yo!  Share my love for VIN DIESEL in our "The Chronicles of Riddick" movie, the sequel to "Pitch Black", if you know what I mean. You can go to the movie theatre and enjoy the art of Vin Diesel in "The Chronicles of Riddick." This is a sci-fi movie stagged in a universe.   This movie rocks! Vin is the MAN. The greatest actor in my perspective! The hottest man on planet-earth! And I just fell in love with the Riddick character from "Pitch Black". Riddick rocked us in the summer of 2000 and he is doing it again now in 2004. I can not get enough of Riddick (Vin Diesel). I can not wait for "Chronicles II" to come out whenever that will be.   I have watched the movie in theatre and I am definately going to watch it again for the second time. I ordered "Pitch Black" on my cable pay-per-v
 iew four
 (4X) times, and I could not get enough of Riddick. I quickly went to the store and bought the "Pitch Black" movie on DVD to watch as many times as I wanted. Lol lol lol...I watched that movie more than 30Xs until I could not watch it any more. That's how addictive the Riddick character can be and has gotten into my blood. I like Sci-Fi movies but with these Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick movies, liking is an understatement. I love these two Sci-Fiction movies.  May the Almight Allah bless the VIN DIESEL with many years to livem so our movie-screen fantasy (the Vin) can live on. My Fantasy Is Alive! That's all that really matters to me right now. The man is hot, what can I say. He has all that it takes to get into my panties. Hahahahahaha, these jokes are getting funny and crazier than I thought!  We Love VIN DIESEL
 (Die-hard Fans), until Death do us apart!  For now, let's hit the movie theatres and see "The Chronicles of Riddick". Go to www.thechroniclesofriddick.com and enjoy the movie trailers and clips.   And if you enjoy video-games, check out The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay only from X-BOX at http://www.riddickgame.com/us/ and become Riddick, the convict.  If you like Animations, check out The Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Fury animation on DVD at http://www.darkfurydvd.com/ . Personally, I'm not a great fun of animations. I prefer playing video-games, here and there, especially dark-filled games i.e huntings (the hunt for Osam Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein), war-zone (Afghanistan, Iraq, and s**t like that), and escappies like Riddick.   And I
 f you
 happen to watch "The Chronicles of Riddick", please send me an email and let me hear what you thought of the movie, the acting, and the universe. I would rate this movie an A+ and worth an Oscar. This is the stuff life is made of...imaginations to unleash.   Zakoomu M. - Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. Dear Rehema Mukooza,  Rehema Mukooza has sent you a CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK ecard.  Click on the link below to view your ecard.  http://www.thechroniclesofriddick.com/index.html?ecard_info=c2xpZGUBUmVoZW1hIE11a29vemEBUmVoZW1hIE11a29vemE=  THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK  NOW PLAYING  To l
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ugnet_: The Chronicles of Riddick - movie

2004-06-18 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Yo!

Share my love for VIN DIESEL in our "The Chronicles of Riddick" movie, the sequel to "Pitch Black", if you know what I mean. You can go to the movie theatre and enjoy the art of Vin Diesel in "The Chronicles of Riddick." This is a sci-fi movie stagged in a universe. 

This movie rocks! Vin isthe MAN. The greatest actor in my perspective! The hottest man on planet-earth! And I just fell in love with the Riddick character from "Pitch Black". Riddick rocked us in the summer of 2000 and he is doing it again now in 2004. I can not get enough of Riddick (Vin Diesel). I can not wait for "Chronicles II" to come out whenever that will be. 

I have watched the movie in theatre and I am definately going to watch it again for the second time. I ordered "Pitch Black" on my cable pay-per-view four (4X) times, and I could not get enough of Riddick. I quickly went to the store and bought the "Pitch Black" movie on DVD to watch as many times as I wanted. Lol lol lol...I watched that movie more than 30Xs until I could not watch it any more. That's how addictive the Riddick character can be and has gotten into my blood. I like Sci-Fi movies but with these Pitch Black and The Chronicles of Riddick movies, liking is an understatement. I love these two Sci-Fiction movies.

May the Almight Allah bless the VIN DIESEL with many years to livem soour movie-screen fantasy (the Vin) can live on. My Fantasy Is Alive! That's all that really matters to me right now. The man is hot, what can I say. He has all that it takes to get into my panties. Hahahahahaha, these jokes are getting funny and crazier than I thought!

We Love VIN DIESEL (Die-hard Fans), until Death do us apart! 
For now, let's hit the movie theatres and see "The Chronicles of Riddick".
Go to www.thechroniclesofriddick.comand enjoy the movie trailers and clips.

And if you enjoy video-games, check out The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay only from X-BOX at http://www.riddickgame.com/us/and become Riddick, the convict.

If you like Animations, check out The Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Fury animation on DVD at http://www.darkfurydvd.com/. Personally, I'm not a great fun of animations. I prefer playing video-games, here and there, especially dark-filled games i.ehuntings (the hunt for Osam Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein), war-zone (Afghanistan, Iraq, and s**t like that), and escappies like Riddick. 

And If you happen to watch "The Chronicles of Riddick", please send me an email and let me hear what you thought of the movie, the acting, and the universe. I would rate this movie an A+ and worth an Oscar. This is the stuff life is made of...imaginations to unleash.


Zakoomu M.
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2004-06-18 Thread Rehema Mukooza
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ugnet_: Re: Patrairchy or Men?

2004-06-08 Thread Rehema Mukooza

Anyomokolo:

There is no need for you to get mad at me for challenging your ideas. To dignify or not my attempt to "challenge" your ideas, I do not give a shit! This world is filled with freedom and some of us (women) have our rights to LOVE our men as much as we want. 

We cook for them because we love them and we want them to have our meals. We clean the house they live in because we love them and we want them to live in a clean home environment. We wash their clothes because we love them and we want them to wear clean, nice smelling clothes. We will have these men's babies through natural fertilization because we lovemating with them. Etc, etc, etc.. They do the same for us in different ways. They pay the major bills for us. They buy groceries. They make sure we have our fill in terms of the bedrooms matters. They cook for us, sometimes. They give us LOVE, warmth, kindness. They provide emotional connections and support. We and our men understand each other on a higher level. There is a lot you do not know about our men.

The content in your master piece was great that's whywe, who do not agree with it had to challenge it. We do not agreewith your test-tube babies and shit! We want natural fertilizations with the penises Allah gave the men we love. We want our future kids to know who their fathers are and not some sperm in a tube, donated by Allah knows who!

Okay, I have challenged you. Can you challenge me??? Take me there, I have no problem going there with you. However, you sound very unwilling to try. Well, you try me. I'll take you there! We have LOVE for our men and it is nothing to be ashamed ofor feel inferior about. We got LOVE along with all the other things we want from our men.

Yes, Anyomokolo I do understand that you've got intellectually stimulating debates with women with PhDs and shit, in your sperm bank, in women's groups. No wonder, maybe y'all have something in common. My dear, a PhD can not buy alady Common Sense. A culture or traditionCAN NOTtake away Common Sense from those who posses it.Maybe some womenDO NOThave any!? They either have NONE or go to the Extreme. Who knows!?

Where was your Common Sense during your abusive relationship?? 
Where was your Common Sense before that abusive relationship?? 
Where is your Common Sense now that you have gotten to the extreme?? 
Do you really think that those with Common Sense will get on your side?? Honestly, think.
What's there to gain on your side when those with Common Sense have all they want??
Whatnews flashdoesyour side have to bringto a lady with Common Sense??

No, I have not heard from Joracha lately. Why should I look forward to hearing from him? Do I care!? Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn!

Well, later too!


Zakoomu M.

Anyomokolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Rehema, I will notdignify your feeble attemptto "challenge" me by responding to your weak argument.Read me again and see how you have embarrassed yourself. English is not my first language either, but GOD-DAMN-IT!I apologize for using too many vocabularies that made it impossible for you tograsp the content of my master piece. Why don't you wait for an opportunity thatmeets your level of intelligence if you truly want to"challenge" me? 

I got much more intellectually challenging debates from educated womenwithPhDs in my spermbank and women's groups that Imust attend to. 


By the way, have you heard from Joracha lately?After reading you today,I believe thathe wasvery right. 

Later.

Anyomokolo

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Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyomokolo:

Let me take this opportunity to challenge you. I do not totally agree with your ideas or this woman's ideas. Some of us (women) would like to have our future kids know who their fathers are. These test-tube babies are not our ideas of naturalism. 

If I am not to have my eggs taken out in order to prove to myself that I can have a child without "me" then, why waste time taking sperms out in order to prove to myself that I can have a child without a "man"?? What is the point in these mind games??
You were taking about psychological pain, but I think thatwhat women like you and this other lady are experiencing is psychological pain itself. Why are y'all fighting nature?? But hey, do whatever y'all galla do. Some of us don't give a shit!

Some of us are totally absorbed into the psychological feelings of LOVE. The feeling of loving a man is nothing to be ashamed of or feeling inferior about (patriarchy ideas). The love we have for our men can not be compared to anything. We do not love these men out of the idea of pleasing them. We just love them for who they are. We love them just because they were born into this world and Allah gave them to us and brought them into our lives. 

While this wom

ugnet_: Re: Patrairchy or Men? - Rashid

2004-06-08 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Rashid:

I aint goin tosweat it with you! I really think that you need toLeave Me ALONE!

Let me ask you a question: Are your remarks personal?? 
Or are they related to the Anyomokolo's anti-patriarchy gospel?? 
And if they are related to the patriarchy debate, what's your position??
Youneed to come clear on your position, so I can put you in your place. 


Zakoomu M.
kaliro45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Anyomokolo,You just have to live with a woman like Rehema--- every body knows that she some times vomits a lot of sheet.Please don't loose your temper take it easyRash
==--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anyomokolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rehema, I will not dignify your feeble attempt to "challenge" me by responding to your weak argument. Read me again and see how you have embarrassed yourself. English is not my first language either, but GOD-DAMN-IT! I apologize for using too many vocabularies that made it impossible for you to grasp the content of my master piece. Why don't you wait for an opportunity that meets your level of intelligence if you truly want to "challenge" me?   I got much more intellectually challenging debates from educated women with PhDs in my sperm bank and women's groups that I must attend to.   By the way, have you heard from Joracha lately? After reading you today, I believe that he was very right. 
   Later.  AnyomokoloRehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyomokolo:  Let me take this opportunity to challenge you. I do not totally agree with your ideas or this woman's ideas. Some of us (women) would like to have our future kids know who their fathers are. These test-tube babies are not our ideas of naturalism.   If I am not to have my eggs taken out in order to prove to myself that I can have a child without "me" then, why waste time taking sperms out in order to prove to myself that I can have a child without a "man"?? What is the point in these mind games?? You were taking about psychological pain, but I think that what women like you and this other lady are experiencing is psychological pain itself. Why are y'all fighting nature?? Bu
 t hey,
 do whatever y'all galla do. Some of us don't give a shit!  Some of us are totally absorbed into the psychological feelings of LOVE. The feeling of loving a man is nothing to be ashamed of or feeling inferior about (patriarchy ideas). The love we have for our men can not be compared to anything. We do not love these men out of the idea of pleasing them. We just love them for who they are. We love them just because they were born into this world and Allah gave them to us and brought them into our lives.   While this woman can pick up a sperm to fertilize her eggs, some of us will go for the natural stick Allah gave the men we love for natural fertilization. We love our men so much that we love their penises along with them. We can never give up the good, satisfying, feeling of their manhoods inside of us. These men's bodies close i
 n
 unison with ours. The feeling of these men with us, emotionally, physically, deeper than spiritual. We Love Our Men, period. We will not give them up for a vibrator or these sperm-tube babies. A man is a Man.   What I am asking for, is for women in abusive relationships to open up their eyes and leave these abusive men. A sensible woman should always take her time to truelly study a man before she gets into a marriage with a man. These women need to use their natural instincts to look out for themselves in a relationship or before a relationship.   A culture or tradition CAN NOT take away Common Sense from those who posess it. Maybe some women DO NOT have any!? Who knows!?   Zakoomu M.   
 t;
 Anyomokolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I am responding to a woman who sent me a private message from another group. Ed (administration), I hope that while I was gone there was a lot youth discussion around here. Right!?!  This is a master piece. Feel free to forward it to every internet group. Help spread my gospel. Hahaha..  _  Private message:   I very enjoy reading you. I check group messages every day just to read you. I really admire your courage to challenge men because you speak for a lot of women. What you said about culture brainwashing girls so that "…we are easy to control, use and abuse by men because they fear our vagina and each other's penis size…" is very true. I am an African woman who was married for two years to a man who was mentally unstable. I divorced five years ago and went back to school with a vengeance a
 nd
 completed my RN in 2002. I am 34 years old and six months pregnant with my second and last child through DI. My mother, who is 62 years old, said that for a young woman of your age who has never been marrie

ugnet_: Re: Patrairchy or Men?

2004-06-08 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Shami:

It is easier now that you have stated your position on Anyo's urguement. 
You are right that each of us has a reason for doing what we do. I too think that she has a point and did what she did after going through what she went through. If you too are locked up in self pitty and can never do anything about it, I say that y'all lack Common Sense.

My question is: How could she have gone through an abusive relationship if she had Common Sense in the first place?? Where was her Common Sense?? Now that she has gone to the Extreme, what purpose does it serve those with no common sense like her?? To them, it is either NO Common Sense at all or the Extreme! Is that wisdom to you??

I agree with you on the test-tube babies and kids never knowing who their fathers are. I believe that test-tube babies should be left as a fertility treatment for those who can not concieve babies the natural way. And for those women who love their test-tube babies, go right ahead. No body is stopping you. Some of us do not give a damn! Naturalism is the way for us.

A male sperm can fertilize an egg outside the womb to produce a zygote. An early foetus can only survive in a womb for obvious reasons. Do I have to go through them for you?? Women need men to concieve babies, the same way men need women for the same thing. Like you've said, sperm banks would run drywithout sperm donors. 

A man is a Man. His sperm factory (testicles) is POWER! 

Disprove it if you can.


Zakoomu M.Shami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I applauded Anyo's urguement! Each one of us always has a reason for doing what we do. I think she has a point there and did what she had to do after going through whatever she went through. Most of us lack that belief (that you can do it without the other person) such that we are locked up in self pity and can never do anything about it.I personally dont believe in test tube babies and I would do it again if it meant going to the operating table. I cannot stand never knowing my child does not have or will never know its father. I also dont think that if we were to preach that kind of gospel to our daughters, we will ever have a chance to be proud grandparents. I mean if the spam banks ran out, as a result of no more having babies (baby boys) the natural way then what?Do tell me, can a male spam fertilise a female egg outside a womb to produce a foetus?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shami:  Aleikum Salam. May Allah be with you.  Thank you for reminding me of the rules of our discussion group. I will try my best not to break them. The word 's**t' was uncalled for and I apologize. I should be the example with decency in language. However, hushness does not break any of our rules. It is okay for people to be hush in our group. Talking 'nasty' is not in anyway breaking our rules. Words like; penis, sex, manhoods, vagina, womanhoods, etc, etc are within our definition of decency. Those are biological, natural terms for those particular parts of the body or actions. No law is broken by them.  In our group, we do not auto-censor postings. 
 I (we)
 do not edit or filter postings out. We believe in total free speech with decency in language. No member or person can be denied a venue to let their messages out because of censorship. People do make mistakes here and here with 'faul' (like me and others), but we choose to forgive and forget. All we do is a reminder to every member the Law Here (decency). I myself need to be reminded of the same. No one is immune. Even judges are judged.  Since you liked my urguement: what would you say about Anyomokolo's ideas??   Zakoomu M. == Shami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is hot..I luv dis!! I would like to thank the inventor(if  that applies)!  PS: Asalam Rehema! Let me assume you created this board, as much as 
  you
 advocate for free_speech and 'decency' in language, I think you  being the moderator should also abide by the rules and not  dictate...I find "some of us dont give a shit" in one of your posts  as 'faul' and too hush! I think everyone here is trying to speak out  his/her mind in the best way he/she can and sometimes like in your  case one as to make a point by talking 'nasty'! and or maybe you  should define to us which words one should use that are not  offending? (like in certain chats where certain words are burned  auto..and you have to edit them).  Otherwise I liked your urguement!  ==   --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "kaliro45" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:  Anyomokolo,  You just have to live with a woman like
 Rehema--- every body knows   that she some times vomits a lot of sheet.  Please don't loose your tempe

ugnet_: Re: Patrairchy or Men?

2004-06-05 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Anyomokolo:

Let me take this opportunity to challenge you. I do not totally agree with your ideas or this woman's ideas. Some of us (women) would like to have our future kids know who their fathers are. These test-tube babies are not our ideas of naturalism. 

If I am not to have my eggs taken out in order to prove to myself that I can have a child without "me" then, why waste time taking sperms out in order to prove to myself that I can have a child without a "man"?? What is the point in these mind games??
You were taking about psychological pain, but I think thatwhat women like you and this other lady are experiencing is psychological pain itself. Why are y'all fighting nature?? But hey, do whatever y'all galla do. Some of us don't give a shit!

Some of us are totally absorbed into the psychological feelings of LOVE. The feeling of loving a man is nothing to be ashamed of or feeling inferior about (patriarchy ideas). The love we have for our men can not be compared to anything. We do not love these men out of the idea of pleasing them. We just love them for who they are. We love them just because they were born into this world and Allah gave them to us and brought them into our lives. 

While this woman can pick up a sperm to fertilize her eggs, some of us will go for the natural stick Allah gave the men we love for natural fertilization. We love our men so much that we love their penises along with them. We can never give up the good, satisfying,feeling of their manhoods inside of us. These men's bodies close in unison with ours. The feeling of these men with us, emotionally, physically, deeper than spiritual. We Love Our Men, period. We will not give them up for a vibrator or these sperm-tube babies. A man is a Man. 

What I am asking for, is for women in abusive relationships to open up their eyes and leave these abusive men. A sensible woman should always take her time to truelly study a man before she gets into a marriage with a man. These women need to use their natural instincts to look out for themselves in a relationship or before a relationship. 

A culture or tradition CAN NOT take away Common Sense from those who posess it.
Maybe some women DO NOT have any!? Who knows!?


Zakoomu M.

Anyomokolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I am responding to a woman who sent me a private message from another group. Ed (administration),I hope that while I was gone there was a lot youth discussion around here. Right!?!
This is a master piece. Feel free to forward it to every internet group. Help spread my gospel. Hahaha..
_
Private message: 
I very enjoy reading you. I check group messages every day just to read you. I really admire your courage to challenge men because you speak for a lot of women. What you said about culture brainwashing girls so that “…we are easy to control, use and abuse by men because they fear our vagina and each other’s penis size…” is very true. I am an African woman who was married for two years to a man who was mentally unstable. I divorced five years ago and went back to school with a vengeance and completed my RN in 2002. I am 34 years old and six months pregnant with my second and last child through DI. My mother, who is62 years old,said that for a young woman of your age who has never been married what you know about men is what ! will bring you happiness. She said that there is no ha
 ppiness
 withtout freedom. She said only American women are happy wives becausethey have freedom.…As you know in Africathere is culture and tradition, psychological war on wives by husbands that locks wives in this marriage “cult” where they are "sex slaves" who "labor 24hrs like horses to take care of men".
Please ‘Anonymous’, don’t use “men” and “patriarchy” interchangeably. Patriarchy is a culture whose mission is to retard girls’ mental development by replacing our moral conviction with culture and tradition. Patriarchy is a social system that raises girls to be so stupid. Let me use the acceptable term, raises girls to follow “culture and tradition and to submit to their husbands and accept the inhumane and degrading conditions of marriage. Patriarchy is a social system that is designed to brainwash women to believe that what is important to men, is also what is important to them. Patriarchy is a social system that brainwashes girls to believe that they are born for one reason and only one reason: Make men happy at all cost ! and by all means nece
 ssary.
 Patriarchy is cult where women are used and abused sexually, physically and psychologically. Patriarchy is anything and everything that does not retard erection and sexual pleasure for men. Patriarchy is a woman giving up her freedom in the name of marriage. Patriarchy is religion. Patriarchy is culture and tradition. Patriarchy is a social system that dominates the world. Patriarchy is the Taliban man in Afghanistan and they are in every society, race, 

RE: ugnet_: Shun 3rd Term, Mengo warned

2004-05-28 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Ed:

I agree with you 100%. Buganda has a right to support or not support the 3rd term. 
I really think that UPC isan enemy of freedom and thus, the axis of evil. 

How can UPC "warn" Mengo againsther freedom??
Who is applying dictatorship to who??

We, Mengo supporters have just finished this years' mourning over the past, and we shall doing the same next year. We shall carry on our de-campaigns of UPC even after Museveni's death. The forces of good (Buganda) shall continue fighting the forces of evil (UPC) until the end of time.

Somebody needs to tell UPC nti gakyaali mabaga! 

Zakoomu M.
=Ed Kironde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









That is the dictatorship I am talking about. People must be openly allowed to oppose the third term and those who want it must be openly allowed to support it.

If such a UPC leader announces that killing the Baganda was necessary to unite the nation, he needs to be put into spotlight and give an account how united we are today as a result such killings and the subsequent repercussions that led to the Buganda King being exiled and later poisoned in the name of unity.

There are known knowns - there are things that we know that we know. There are known unknowns - that is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns ... things we do not know we don't know. And each year we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns." Us Secretary of Defense 2001 -?

Donald Rumsfeld


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Shun 3rd Term, Mengo Warned

New Vision (Kampala)

May 28, 2004 
Posted to the web May 28, 2004 

Milton Olupot
Kampala 

Uganda Peoples' Congress (UPC) presidential policy commission chairman Dr. James Rwanyarare has warned the Mengo government against supporting a third term for President Yoweri Museveni.

Addressing a press briefing on Wednesday, Rwanyarare accused the Buganda government of plotting to support Museveni's bid for a third term in exchange for federo.

 
He said Buganda's recent celebrations, organised by Katikiiro Joseph Mulwanyamuli Ssemwogerere to commemorate the 1966 attack on the palace by former president Milton Obote's troops, were meant to win support for Museveni.

Rwanyarare justified the attack, saying it was necessary for uniting the country.

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He said the Katikiiro's representative at Kasubi tombs, Arthur Bagunywa, meant Museveni when he said "Mengo will support the federal candidate."

Rwanyarare said presenters of CBS Radio weekly programme "Jetuvudde" distorted facts in order to incite the Baganda against UPC and those who held leadership positions under the UPC government


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ugnet_: Re: Playaz Be Ware - ooouch

2004-05-06 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Ed  Members:

A real playa whose penis gets cut off because he played too much with other men's wives does not give up the game. A real playa does not give up on having an orgasm. 

He will simply go the prostate-stimulation way and keep playing to getthe orgasms coming. He can loose his manhood without lossing his game. Lossing a penis is not the end of the game. For him, The Game Must Go On. 

Ha ha ha ha ha ha... It sounds "filthy", huh?? 


Zakoomu M.
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Man cuts off colleague’s private parts  











By Golooba Jimmy 







Wednesday, 05 May 2004
A 30-year-old man has cut off his colleague’s private parts for sleeping with his wife in his absence.

Francis Sentongo of Tebalyala village in Luweero Sub County Luweero District punished Charles Kayondo also aged 30 for being unfaithful.

Sentongo found Kayondo playing sex with his wife and used a panga to cut off his manhood.



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Re: ugnet_: re ugnet: - Maggie Atieno

2004-05-04 Thread Rehema Mukooza
And your point is ...?!Maggie Atieno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 thank you mukooza for teachgin g the use of no critical htinker , Maggie
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Re: ugnet_: U.S. Is Losing Its Dominance in the Sciences

2004-05-03 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Vukoni:

We are no where! We are to figure out our own thingstoo if we are interested in cutting this scientific dependencyon the West. 

Zakoomu M.
==Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And where are we in this scheme of things? On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 10:13, Lisa Toro wrote: What they stole from germans is now over and they can not figure out their own!!  - Original Message -  From: J Ssemakula To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:14 PM Subject: ugnet_: U.S. Is Losing Its Dominance in the Sciences  The New York Times  __ May 3, 2004 U.S. Is Losing Its Dominance in the Sciences By WILLIAM J. BROAD   The United States has started to lose its worldwide dominance in critical areas of science and innovation, according to federal and private experts who point to strong evidence like prizes awarded to Americans and th
 e number
 of papers in major professional journals.  Foreign advances in basic science now often rival or even exceed America's, apparently with little public awareness of the trend or its implications for jobs, industry, national security or the vigor of the nation's intellectual and cultural life.  "The rest of the world is catching up," said John E. Jankowski, a senior analyst at the National Science Foundation, the federal agency that tracks science trends. "Science excellence is no longer the domain of just the U.S."  Even analysts worried by the trend concede that an expansion of the world's brain trust, with new approaches, could invigorate the fight against disease, develop new sources of energy and wrestle with knotty environmental problems. But profits from the breakthroughs are likely to stay overseas, and this country will 
 face
 competition for things like hiring scientific talent and getting space to showcase its work in top journals.  One area of international competition involves patents. Americans still win large numbers of them, but the percentage is falling as foreigners, especially Asians, have become more active and in some fields have seized the innovation lead. The United States' share of its own industrial patents has fallen steadily over the decades and now stands at 52 percent.   A more concrete decline can be seen in published research. Physical Review, a series of top physics journals, recently tracked a reversal in which American papers, in two decades, fell from the most to a minority. Last year the total was just 29 percent, down from 61 percent in 1983.  China, said Martin Blume, the journals' editor, has surged ahead by submitting more th
 an 1,000
 papers a year. "Other scientific publishers are seeing the same kind of thing," he added.  Another downturn centers on the Nobel Prizes, an icon of scientific excellence. Traditionally, the United States, powered by heavy federal investments in basic research, the kind that pursues fundamental questions of nature, dominated the awards.  But the American share, after peaking from the 1960's through the 1990's, has fallen in the 2000's to about half, 51 percent. The rest went to Britain, Japan, Russia, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland and New Zealand.  "We are in a new world, and it's increasingly going to be dominated by countries other than the United States," Denis Simon, dean of management and technology at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, recently said at a scientific meeting in Washington.  Europe and Asi
 a are
 ascendant, analysts say, even if their achievements go unnoticed in the United States. In March, for example, European scientists announced that one of their planetary probes had detected methane in the atmosphere of Mars — a possible sign that alien microbes live beneath the planet's surface. The finding made headlines from Paris to Melbourne. But most Americans, bombarded with images from America's own rovers successfully exploring the red planet, missed the foreign news.  More aggressively, Europe is seeking to dominate particle physics by building the world's most powerful atom smasher, set for its debut in 2007. Its circular tunnel is 17 miles around.  Science analysts say Asia's push for excellence promises to be even more challenging.  "It's unbelievable," Diana Hicks, chairwoman of the school of public policy at the
  Georgia
 Institute of Technology, said of Asia's growth in science and technical innovation. "It's amazing to see these output numbers of papers and patents going up so fast."  Analysts say comparative American declines are an inevitable result of rising standards of living around the globe.  "It's all in the ebb and flow of globalization," said Jack Fritz, a senior officer at the National Academy of Engineering, an advisory body to the federal government. He called the declines "the next big thing we will have to adjust to."  The rapidly changing American status has not gone unnoticed by politicians, with Democrats on the 

RE: ugnet_: Baganda warned on agitating for Federo - New Vision - 1/5/2004

2004-05-03 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Hahahahahahah, thanks Nagadya!Mary Nagadya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mw. Kasangwawo:Thank you for your contributions. However, sometimes Ifeel that you are engaged in the equivalent of takinga goat to an opera. Unfortunately, no matter howfrequently such a goat attends the opera, he isunlikely to ever appreciate it in any sense of theword.Otherwise, it'd be amazing to see a person who claimsto be a Muganda fail to grasp a simple idea that aMuganda's love for his or her Kabaka is independent ofpolitical affiliation. Some just don't get it. Thereis nothing to do about that. Let's move on.MN--- jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Mulindwa  co,  either you didn't understand what the man said or you simply didn't make an  effort to read the article carefully. What should be worrying us are not the  federalist
 s but,
 according to him, your very own party. Referring to the UPC  he said: "This is the very click that chased and deposed the Kabaka in 1966  so I urge you to be cautious of these masqueraders who have come up during  Kabaka's quest for more powers". He further advises us to concentrate on our  development "instead of listening to the likes of the Rwanyarares." This is  what the honorable minister said and not your usual ramblings about  feudalism, which you know nothing about.  Kasangwawo   From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ugnet_: Baganda warned on agitating for Federo - New Vision -  1/5/2004 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:53:03 -0400  And t
 hose are
 the same sentiments worrying us with Federalists Visa Vie  Buganda Kingdom. For one must look very carefully and look at people who  are pleading for this federalism, a man like Mwami Lugemwa is a publicly  known DP man, the same has been an official of external DP branch for some  time now. So Lugemwa goes back to Uganda and now he is pleading for  federalism for he loves Mengo and Buganda King. One can not help but ask,  is Lugemwa now a KY sympathizer? For the going of Lugemwa to Uganda when  Museveni is playing with Ugandans to negotiate on political partys, drives  one to conclude that Lugemwa actually believes that Musveni can allow  political partys to operate in Uganda. And that is not true. Museveni is  just using the Lugemwas for his own staying in power.
 t;
 Now Lugemwa goes to Uganda under the burner of federalism and fighting for  Buganda, and it is Mulindwa who is a non Ugandan and who is anti Buganda.  Like I said to Mwaami Kibuuka, be very careful for this feudalism you have  started under the cover of Federalism, for you will end up hurting Buganda  than you ever wished. And the Kabaka's going to Museveni to ask for more  powers, surely non-critical thinkers that should have raised all your red  flags for many of us have been here very long, unlike the Ssenyange's who  were born when UNLF was attacking Uganda to remove Iddi Amin.  But where we are every one is using every one, DP will grow through Mengo  and Mengo will get more powers from NRM and reform will not register as a  party yet two days af
 ter they
 will register, to Mwaami Kironde in Colorado  now starting a political party which is the 45th of the 46 partys now.  What a fucked up nation?  Em Toronto  The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"  Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"   - Original Message -  From: Omar Kezimbira  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:17 PM  Subject: ugnet_: Baganda warned on agitating for Federo - New Vision -  1/5/2004Baganda warned on agitating for Federo   EDUCATION and sports minister Edward Kiddu Makubuya has  war
 ned
 Baganda against people who are supporting the Kabaka's quest for  more power, reports Ronald Kalyango.  "This is the very click that chased and deposed the Kabaka  in 1966 so I urge you to be cautious of these masqueraders who have come up  during Kabaka's quest for more powers," he said.  He said this recently during a guided tour of Kalule in  Nyimbwa sub-county, Luweero district where he appealed to the residents to  initiate income-generating activities to support Mengo, "instead of  listening to the likes of the Rwanyarares."  Makubuya called upon chiefs to mobilise the people in  culture, discipline and work rather than spending time in misleading  political rallies.  Makubuya, who is also the area MP, toured St. Kizito, Karule  R/C and gardens 
 of his
 electorate where he called upon them to be exemplary  by guarding against swindling of funds meant for development. He also  warned councillors agai nst bidding for tenders, saying a lot of money had  been lost due to shoddy work.  Ends   Published on: Saturday, 1st May, 2004   Email this article to a friend.
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ugnet_: Re: True or false? - Relationships 101

2004-04-30 Thread Rehema Mukooza


Ed:

How long can Lust Last?
1st of all, Lust is the inordinate craving for theindulgence of the carnal pleasure (sex).
Lust will last for as long as the craving for the carnal pleasure from someone lasts. Once this craving is satisfied, the Lust for someone will go AWAY.

When is Desire different from Lust?
2idly, Desire is to wish or long for; want someone. Desire is different from Lust in a way that it lasts, well as Lust can never last long. In sexual terms, Lust can allow people to sleep with one person to the next (thousands of sexual partners). Why?? Because once the Lust's craving for that particular person is satisfied, itfades away, and the Luster moves on to the next person to satisfy his/her craving for the person next in line. With Desire, the wishing for, longing for thatsame personcan be there no matter how much one has been with that very same person.

To explain it better: 
If you craveto sleep with a woman (wannatame what's in between the legs) and you know that you will not have any more interest in that woman after sex, that is Lust. You will soon move on to the next woman who will catch your eye and stir another craving, Lust. 
If you wish for, longto sleep witha woman (wishing thatwhat she offers will last) and you know that you are interested in other things about this woman, other than sex, that is Desire. 

When is Love different from Desire?
Love is a recognition of deep,intense, attractive qualities, which leads tofeelings of desire towards a person, and a sense of underlying oneness with whom one is disposed to make a pair. When a man/woman Loves a man/woman, he/she definitely Desires him/her in the emotion of sex and romance. 
Desire is to wish or long for; want someone. One canDesire someone without Loving him/her. Why?? Because Love is not a component of Desire. Well as, one can not Love someone without Desiring him/her. Why?? Because there is Desire within Love; Desire is among the components ofLove.

If there is no Love, there is no Desire, and therefore it is Lust. Ifthe Desirefades,Lust will definitely fade, and a relationship is NO MORE. That's when couples realize that they were not in Love in the first placeand were responding to their Desires. 

The real difference between Love and Desire is that; Love lasts and Desire can either last or fade. Love targets the lasting (eternal) Desire, well as Desire can either last or fade. Love is deeper than Desire.

If you Love a woman, the relationship will last forever (there is more than Desire in play). If you only Desire a woman, the relationship will last for a while (for as long asyou can keep the Desire coming). If you only Lust for a woman, there is even no hope for a relationship.

Can you Like, Want and Lust for your Love?
1st of all, I don't know how someone can want what he/she already has, unless if he/she wishes for more. I am talking about wanting one's own Love. Usually people want what they don't have. They only time someone can want Love with he/she already has is when he/she thinks he/she don't have it. Now, that would be a psychological mess up.

Yes, people do often like their love if it satisfies their psychological needs. The only time people will hate their Love is when it is causing them psychological torment and not meeting their needs. E.g, like loving a man or woman who does not love you. You will hate that Love you have towards her because it is psychologically tormenting or torturing you. Usually most people will deal with it by accepting that that person does not love them, or force themselves to hat that person by finding all sorts of reasons or wrong things about person. A reason to hate that person, which really is a reason to hate that Love they have for that person. Do you get it??

I don't know about Lusting for one's own Love. That's weird! People usually Lust for other's Love. Or maybe a suicidal person might Lust for his/her Love when he/she is about to kill him/herself. Maybe it's that last Lust for their own Love that saves them from killing themselves at the last minute. How knows? It's a thought. Maybe that's what they call realizing that they love themselves and that life is too important to throw it away by committing suicide. Who knows? You tell me. Now, that is a Love different from the Love we are talking about. 


Zakoomu M.

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Ed Kironde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









Relationships 101
Rehema: How long can Lust Last?
 When is Desire different from Lust?
 When is Love different from Desire?
 Can you Like, Want and Lust for your Love?

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rehema MukoozaSent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:22 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: ugnet_: Re: True or false?


Ssemakula:



Are you married? to a woman(s?) who looks like your mother?? True or False??



Speaking for myself as a woman, I would not waste my time 

ugnet_: Re: True or false?

2004-04-29 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Ssemakula:

Are you married? to a woman(s?) who looks like your mother?? True or False??

Speaking for myself as a woman, I would not waste my time with a man who looks like my father, acts like him, talks like him, etc. Why?? = I would need something different. The moment I detect characterists of my father in a man, I drophim like its hot! 

A man's natural scent (not colognes) can tell a lot whether a woman is attracted to him or not; if she finds his scent offensive, there is no attration, the relationship will not last. The same goes for the man, if he does not like the scent of a woman, the attraction is not there, the relationship is doomed not to last, it is Lust. 

EvOLuTiON:women can just look at a man and make uptheir minds if his scent is offensive or magnetic. Just by sight alone with no sense of smell involved!Womenkeep such details to themselves.Smart women listen to their natural,survivalinstincts, and filter out men ofpoorgenes. Who needs a mixture with such lazy genes?? We don't!

I feel sorry for men who buy flowers, candy, jewery, clothes, etc to impress a woman. Well, non-smart women will simply accept to go with this guy with money even if their natural instincts are against it, as long as the man is economically secure. Such nonsense has lead to an increase in theoccuranceofgenetically passed down diseases such as diabetics, cancer, asthma, high blood pressure, heart attacks, etc especially in developing countries where poverty is focusing women to marry or get mates for financial security.

Therefore people, with all the nonsense you hear about women going with men who have money, do not be surprised if the mentioned diseases increase in the future young generation. Almost every part of the world is reporting increases in these diseases. Do you think these women will turn away from money?? You must be kidding! The future generation's gene pool isgoing to be adisaster if money is the key. The signs for genetic disasters are already here.

If you ever find out that yougot diabetic, heart attacks, cancers, asthmatic, infertile, suicidal, etc, blame your mother for choosing the wrong mate (your father) to have fathered you. Your mother should have listened to her natural instincts and waited for a genetically compatible sperm to fertilize her eggs. Money has nothing to do with genetic compatibility towards making a genetically, physically, fit offspring. Ha ha ha ha ha ha...thank Allah thatthere ismedical advancement and technology to help out those poor genes folks.


Zakoomu M.

james ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:












Women marry men who look like dad 



00:0128April04



NewScientist.com news service




Women tend to choose husbands who look like their fathers - even if they are adopted, reveals a new study.
The research shows that women use their dads as a template for picking a mate by a process called "sexual imprinting", says Tamas Bereczkei at the University of Pécs in Hungary and colleagues.
Husbands and wives have long been suggested to look alike and this is known to occur in many animal species. Couples that look like each other are also more likely to share common genes, and having a degree of similarity is believed to beneficial.
This might explain the study's findings, suggests Glenn Weisfeld, one of the research team and a human ethologist at Wayne State University, Detroit, US "There seems to be an advantage for animals to select a mate somewhat similar to themselves genetically," he told New Scientist. 
"One good possibility is that there are some fortuitous genetic combinations which are retained in the offspring if both parents are similar," he says. "In humans there is evidence to show a lower rate of miscarriage."
However, he points out that there is a balance between the benefits of marrying someone genetically close and the harmful effects of inbreeding. "There seems to be an ideal balance, maybe around the first or second cousin point."
Newborn ducklings 
Imprinting is a fast, instinctive form of learning, perhaps best known from the phenomenon in which newborn ducklings bond with the first object they see.
To test whether women use imprinting to base their marital choices on the appearance of their fathers, the researchers took 26 adoptive families and examined how alike various family members looked. Using adoptive families meant inherited preferences could be ruled out.
Nearly 250 students were asked to rate similarities within three sets of photos. The first showed photos of the wife and four possible husbands, one of whom was the real spouse. 
The second showed a photo of the adoptive father as he would have looked when his daughter was between two and eight years of age, and the possible husbands. The third set showed the adoptive mother and the four possible husbands.
The students correctly matched husbands and wives significantly more than they 

ugnet_: Re: Declare North/East disaster Pulkol

2004-04-29 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Matek:

This is soo sad to hear and see. 18yrs of war, people in concentration camps, the region has not been declared a disaster area. This man Museveni is a murderer. Do you now see why I celebrate the death of murderers like Mu7?? I have no mercy for unmercifull people towards other humans's lives.

Children are dying of diseasein concentration camps, and yet his brattish grandchildren are seen in Kampala's Garden City shopping and eating icecream! This killer does not care about the children in the North. If he can only let his grandbrats spend a day in the war-tone zones in the North and find out what otherkids are facing everyday.

Zakoomu M.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
North Disaster Area - PulkolNew Vision (Kampala)April 29, 2004 Posted to the web April 29, 2004 Charles ArikoKampala FORMER External Security Organisation (ESO) chief David Pulkol has asked Government to accept Parliament's resolution to declare the northern and eastern regions disaster areas.He was yesterday presenting a paper on the northern war at Regency Hotel in Kampala. Pulkol said the declaration would enable victims of war, most of whom live in IDP camps to benefit from emergency aid from donors."There are governments and partners willing to assist Uganda provided those regions are declared disaster areas," he said.Relevant Links East Africa Uganda Civil War and Communal Conflict He told the Government not to misunderstand Parliamen
 t's
 resolution to mean that it had failed to end war which has forced over one million people into campsThe conference was organised by the National Organisations of Trade Unions.


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ugnet_: Ssenyange, Kasangwawo Kipenyi square off -- FN Lugemwa

2004-04-28 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Mw. Lugemwa:

What is it that you really want from ME??
1st of all, I am Rehema Mukooza and not "Muhooza."

2rd, If you take your time and read my first response to the article, you will see that I simply let my views out about Museveni's "Talk to Mengo" nonsense and lies. What has that got to do with the exchanges between these men (Ssenyange, Kasangwawo, and Kipenji)?? I don't like it when people like you pass onlies about me kicking off bitter exchanges among members. I am not responsible for what others say. I am only responsible for whatever I say. You got that right?!

You know, you really need to leave me alone if you have nothing of sense to say about me. I am a very peaceful person here, who is trying to understand the situation in mothersoil, and to get my views across. If you have a problem with my views, why can't you face me and post your complaints on discussion groups where I have membership. It makes no sense for you to post this on UNAANET, where youvery well know I have not membership. It is like you posting this on FedsNet where you know what you did to my membership. It would do me a lot of good if you post such on Ugandanet, for instance a discussion group where I hold membership. But hey, do whatever you brain cells tell you to do. 

I also find it disturbing for you to try to square off these guys' exchanges. Why are you stopping them?? Let them kwemala egogga, I don't see any problem with that. This is a healthy debate and each guy is thinking for himself. There is no need for your over protection of adult men. Is there any??

You know what?, I have no time for petty discussions like this oneyou are trying to get me into. I have important things in my life to spend time on and enjoy. Pettiness is not my idea of important things to waste my time on.

One more thing: What does Kipenji's Muganda wife got to do with the subject?? 
If indeed what you are saying about Kipenji's wife being a Muganda is true, then this is what I think until he gives a better explanation. Kipenji is acting like Obote who had to marry a Muganda woman in order to feel complete. This is an inferiority complex on Kipenji's part, if he cannot feel like a man without a Muganda woman. I have nothing to do with it. Talk about inferiority complexes, we have one right here. Correct me where I went wrong, for I think I'm speaking the truth.

Can you ever discuss important things on these groups besides federalism which we all agree on?? I have yet to see one.


Zakoomu M.

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Lugemwa FN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Kipenyi's wife is a Muganda.It all started with the New Vision article, "Musevenito talk to Mengo" -- 21st April 2004 . If you missedthe article scroll all the way down to the bottom. FNL--Exchange kicked off by who else but Rehema Muhooza! Members:I don't believe that Museveni is going to "talk toMengo". Ooh, please! How many times has he sworn totalk to Mengo?? The fact is that he has not done so,and he says the opposite. Take a look into his recent Tororo speech when he blasted Mengo. Museveni talkshis –[fill in]-- about talking to Mengo and the Kabakawhen he is in Buganda. Basically to please folks!Zakoomu Mukooza--Mukooza,So long as UPC supporters continue their hatemongeragainst Bugand
 a, Mu7
 will rule Uganda until he'sdeposed by the use of arms or killed by bullets.That’s why he does’nt want to stop the war in thenorth so that UPC can increase its sentiments againstBuganda- devide more, rule for ever. The result willbe as you see on Ugandanet. I am anti Museveni butwhen the Adhola, Mulindwa, Akanga, Kipenji etccontinue the envious sentiments against Buganda, Iwould rather give Mu7 a go ahead until a more crediblereplacement ( free of UPC, NRM  Ganda sentiments ) isfound. I have argued UPC to initiate a Truth andReconciliation commission similar to South Africanbut they refused, saying that they have unfinishedbusiness to settle with Buganda. Well, Baganda say"Ekigy'omanyi kinyaga bitono""Sekawuka kaali kakulumye..." " okwerinda...ssibutiitiizi"Ssenyange-Ssenyan
 ge,I
 would rather you keep your puerile talksabout you and your support for Mu7 to yourself.In the same vein would one have to say that as long asyou and Buganda want to keep Mu7,then you can go aheadand get the Federo for Buganda that Mu7 is peddlingbefore you?.Wise people learn from other peoples' mistakes butFools always want to learn through their ownexperiences which oftentimes turns to be veryexpensive.You think Mu7's killing fields that you support in theNorth will go on for ever? What about if he achieveswhat you want and still feels he needs to kill an

ugnet_: Re: OWE'K KASANGWAWO

2004-04-22 Thread Rehema Mukooza
 to leave Canada and go to Uganda to workfor a killer government) 4) Dr Musisi -The husband of Nakanyike- (Who as well went to support the mass murderess) 5) Rugundu (Who left Toronto after being offered a job as a ManagerCoffee marketing Board -London office) 6) Dr George Otto Who kindly resides in Toronto And I can continue on and on for I have lots.  In conclusion Mwaami Kasangwawo and your good Baganda, you have hurt our cause. A cause of people like my self who has never got a pant fromObote or Amin or Mutesa or Mutebi or Museveni. A people who know that if a Northerner or a Southerner or a Moslem or Catholic leads Uganda it does not matterwe will still have to go to work. A people who love Buganda where
  we
 were born and love it as a cultural entity and not as a political entity. A people who know that there is no political development that can be achieved inUganda other than through political party's. As people who have accepted that Ugandans love UPC and the only way we can oppose that is by either refusing Ugandans to love that party or by studying what it does. For when welook in the future of Uganda, either way you slice it, UPC is here to stay, for after 20 years Ugandans still march on Kampala road with UPC uniforms.  Is Obote forcing Ugandans to put on UPC uniforms and march on Kampalaroad when he is in Lusaka?  Your making this debate a tribal debate, and turning it into Baganda and Norther
 ners,
 has denied us the chance to have a legitimate and adult discussion where we can put UPC as a party to carpet. UPC has a lot of explaining to do. There are those of us who were imprisoned during Obote two, and we want to be allowed to ask why? There are those of us who wonder why the difference between UPC one and UPC two. But we can not ask those questions when you have made Uganda issue a Baganda developed, a Northerner primitive and federalism a Uganda last pill. And that takes away ouronly opportunity to have a good but serious discussion on these and other matters of importance about Uganda.  I hope you help every one in these forums to uplift this discussion from the ghettoes the federalist have thrown it into. 
 Em Toronto   The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"  Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"  - Original Message - From: "jonah kasangwawo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:41 PM Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here Mulindwa, the only idiot here is you and gang who obstinately refuse to believe the   facts as confirmed even   by independent sources.  
   That aside, I found the reason you gave for the introduction of a register   quite amusing. You seem to think that everyone is on welfare like you while   you at the same time travel to far places like Winnipeg or even Hong Kong   for kyeyo ! I hope they don't find out about these extra activitiesof   yours, otherwise your welfare check might be confiscated. Kasangwawo   From: "Edward Mulindwa" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Subject: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here   Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:30:14 -0400 
  
Zakoomu  Is Kipenji from the North?  Apparently straight questions are never answered in this forum. Remember   the idiot who stated that Oyite Ojok murdered 500 000 Baganda in Luwero   District? Facts faced him and he dumped his tail right where it belongs in   his legs. That is why I continue that we can never put changes in Uganda   until when we make a national register a mandatory, we need to register all   Ugandans, finger print them and make a national identity card. Inthat way   we will kill two birds with two stones (a) If you make allegationson
 some   one, you can be sued and your well fare check can be confiscated and (b)   You will not have a right to be Mukooza and call your self Zakoomu.  We must create a sense of accountability in our society it is as important   as nothing more.  Em   Toronto   The Mulindwas Communication Group   "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"Groupe de communication Mulindwas   "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"   - Original Message -  
 
  From: Rehema MukoozaTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:14 PMSubject: ugnet_: Re: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here  Kipenji:   How can Adam Dada be an IDIOT?? He is speaking the truth, unlike you   who is in denial of under development of the North. In the North, people   are still living in grass thatched houses and you are trying to deny it.   You galla be livin' la vida fantasia.  Zakoomu M.  
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ugnet_: Re: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza

2004-04-21 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Ssenyange:

I agree with you sebo. These UPC Buganda haters have a lot to loose than Buganda, that's the most sad thing. We can ask ourselves: Who is gaining more and who is lossing more from Museveni dictatorship?? The losers are none other than these UPC supporters, whose home areas are struck with "LRA". These people's people are dying left and right. 

We, in Buganda are enjoying peace with sleep in our comfortable beds, and we shall never give up "sleep" fornight commuting on streets. Gakyaali mabaga! Buganda did not raise Kony nor Museveni. We are caught in the middle and we must make a choice; To have "sleep" or to night-commute?? We are not fools. We have clearly chosen "sleep" because we have to enjoy this one-life we have, and besides, we have nothing to do with both terrorists (Kony  Mu7). None of these terrorists wishes good on Buganda - let's not forget that.

Ifthese haters(UPC) can only wake up. They need to understand that Ankole is the monster that's directing for their killings and not Buganda. They need to direct their hate to the right region (Ankole), because that's where Museveni comes from. It pains me to see them denying these fact all the time. 

UPC sabotaged the truce and reconciliation process that was supposedto take place between Acholi and Luweero people, by having the Acholi apologize to the Luweero victims' families. Whatever unfinished business(revenge) they want to settle with Buganda, we (the people of Buganda) are ready to defend ourselves. We shall never ever allow ourselves to be their victims like in the Obote, Amin, Okello terror regimes. We had enough! "Okweriinda...ssi butititiizi", let them bring their shit and we shall show them fire. Tetwagala kutumanyiira! They need to settle their unfinished business with Ankole.


Zakoomu M.===ssenya nyange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mukooza,So long as UPC supporters continue their hatemonger against Buganda, Mu7 will rule Uganda until he's deposed by the use of arms or killed by bullets. Thats why he doesnt want to stop the war in the north so that UPC can increase its sentiments against Buganda- devide more, rule for ever. The result will be as you see on Ugandanet. Iam anti Museveni but when the Adhola, Mulindwa, Akanga, Kipenji etc continue the envious sentiments against Buganda, I would rather give Mu7 a go ahead until a more credible replacement ( free of UPC, NRM  Ganda sentiments ) is found. I have argued UPC to initiate a Truth and Reconciliation commission similar to Suth African but they refused, saying that they have unfinished business to settle with Buganda. Well, Baganda say "Ekigy'omanyi kinyaga bitono" "Sekawuka kaali kakulumye..." " okwerinda...ssi
 butiitiizi"Ssenyange-------From: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to MengoDate: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:23:00 -0700 (PDT)Members:I don't believe that Museveni is going to "talk to Mengo". Ooh, please! How many times has he sworn to talk to Mengo?? The fact is that he has not done so, and he says the opposite. Take a look into his recent Tororo speech when he blasted Mengo. Museveni talks his shit about talking to Mengo and the Kabaka when he is in Buganda. Basically to please folks!Zakoomu M.===Omar Kezimbira
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Museveni to talk to Mengo, New Vision, 21st April 2004By Alfred WasikePRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has said he is willing to discuss with the Buganda Kingdom officials at Mengo on how much powers they should hold on.“I am ready to discuss with my Mengo friends to determine how much authority they want to hold. I have no problem with discussion but the power must be shared rationally,” Museveni said while commissioning the first phase of a sh2.7b office complex at the Wakiso district headquarters yesterday.Vice-President Prof Gilbert Bukenya and Minister for the Presidency, Alhaj Ali Kirunda Kivejinja, were among the guests.“But I strongly object to all power being usurped from the people at the villages, sub-counties and districts and going to regional tiers. Why should I, a mwanainchi walk from Buwekula to Mengo or
 Parliament in Kampala to have my problems solved? I have a son called Muhoozi. I can’t usurp the authority of running his house. I can only advise him,” he said ashis supporters yelled, “ Museveni for 3rd term”, “No change” while displaying combined three-finger and thumbs-up signs.Museveni (right), said decentralisation had empowered Ugandans to determine development in their areas. He attacked exiled UPC leader Apolo Milton Obote for tric

ugnet_: Re: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza

2004-04-21 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Yes, Ugandans read my posting with attention. UPC should direct its hate to Ankole, for Buganda has nothing to do with terrorist Kony and terrorist Mu7. Neither of these terrorists is a product of Buganda, but ratherAcholi and Ankole. 

Night-commuting or concentration camps can not be tolerated in Buganda. Luweerotaught us a lesson, peace/"ttulo" is what we want in our areas. Brain power is what has saved us from Museveni's terror. Our normal lives must go on. We must "sleep." Got that?? And we must never let the axis of evil (UPC) in power ever again.

Zakoomu M.
=Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Ugandans read this posting with attention.

Em

Toronto

The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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----- Original Message - 
From: Rehema Mukooza 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:07 PM
Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni to talk to Mengo\Mukooza

Ssenyange:

I agree with you sebo. These UPC Buganda haters have a lot to loose than Buganda, that's the most sad thing. We can ask ourselves: Who is gaining more and who is lossing more from Museveni dictatorship?? The losers are none other than these UPC supporters, whose home areas are struck with "LRA". These people's people are dying left and right. 

We, in Buganda are enjoying peace with sleep in our comfortable beds, and we shall never give up "sleep" fornight commuting on streets. Gakyaali mabaga! Buganda did not raise Kony nor Museveni. We are caught in the middle and we must make a choice; To have "sleep" or to night-commute?? We are not fools. We have clearly chosen "sleep" because we have to enjoy this one-life we have, and besides, we have nothing to do with both terrorists (Kony  Mu7). None of these terrorists wishes good on Buganda - let's not forget that.

Ifthese haters(UPC) can only wake up. They need to understand that Ankole is the monster that's directing for their killings and not Buganda. They need to direct their hate to the right region (Ankole), because that's where Museveni comes from. It pains me to see them denying these fact all the time. 

UPC sabotaged the truce and reconciliation process that was supposedto take place between Acholi and Luweero people, by having the Acholi apologize to the Luweero victims' families. Whatever unfinished business(revenge) they want to settle with Buganda, we (the people of Buganda) are ready to defend ourselves. We shall never ever allow ourselves to be their victims like in the Obote, Amin, Okello terror regimes. We had enough! "Okweriinda...ssi butititiizi", let them bring their shit and we shall show them fire. Tetwagala kutumanyiira! They need to settle their unfinished business with Ankole.


Zakoomu M.===ssenya nyange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mukooza,So long as UPC supporters continue their hatemonger against Buganda, Mu7 will rule Uganda until he's deposed by the use of arms or killed by bullets. Thats why he doesnt want to stop the war in the north so that UPC can increase its sentiments against Buganda- devide more, rule for ever. The result will be as you see on Ugandanet. Iam anti Museveni but when the Adhola, Mulindwa, Akanga, Kipenji etc continue the envious sentiments against Buganda, I would rather give Mu7 a go ahead until a more credible replacement ( free of UPC, NRM  Ganda sentiments ) is found. I have argued UPC to initiate a Truth and Reconciliation commission similar to Suth African but they refused, saying that they have unfinished business to settle with Buganda. Well, Baganda say "Ekigy'omanyi kinyaga bitono" "Sekawuka kaali kakulumye..." " okwerinda...ssi
 butiitiizi"Ssenyange-------From: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to MengoDate: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 19:23:00 -0700 (PDT)Members:I don't believe that Museveni is going to "talk to Mengo". Ooh, please! How many times has he sworn to talk to Mengo?? The fact is that he has not done so, and he says the opposite. Take a look into his recent Tororo speech when he blasted Mengo. Museveni talks his shit about talking to Mengo and the Kabaka when he is in Buganda. Basically to please folks!Zakoomu M.===Omar Kezimbira
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ugnet_: Re: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here - Kipenji

2004-04-20 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Kipenji:

I trust that it's not time that you don't have, but rather you can not defend your points against mine. I don't blame you for your failure of an explanation, because logically you don't make sense, not even to yourself.

If you really were sensible, you would understand why people celebrate the deaths of their enemies. But since you are not that sensible, I guess you can not understand. Too bad! Sense is what leads us critical thinkersto celebrate our enemies deaths, and not "foolishness". A fool is one who mourns for his/her enemies' death. 

Zakoomu M.

=Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Zakoomu,sorry but I really have no time for obtunded dunderheads
like you for your pedastal views are not worth my indulgence.
Try your circumlocutions reminiscent of those under the burdens
of bipolar disorders with others.
Celebrate as much as your foolishness can lead you.
Thank you.
Kipenji.
_______-Rehema Mukooza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Kipenji:

Let me tell you something, in this world we live in, people do celebrate the deaths of their enemies. To be specific, people do act to bring death to their enemies through wars and other means. This is not new to a critical thinker like me. I will continue to celebrate the deaths of the enemies of my freedom. Does the celebration prelude me from death?? = NO! Do people who go to war to finish off their enemies eventually die in time?? = YES. Everyone will die, that's the natural law any child knows. 

The point however is that, in the absence (death) of an enemy, we freedom seekers get closer to what we want, and that is freedom. The closer (more enemies die) we get, the more celebrations we carry out. What is there for us to miss (mourn) for these murderers like Oyite-Ojok?? You've got to be kidding me. We weren't born yesterday. We know how this world works. And we shall press for this world to evolve around our FREEDOMS. An enemy of our freedom, is an enemy of our world and civilizations, and thus the enemy should get out of our way (death, exile). We have one life to live. We have no time and space for these enemies. This is why I shall praise Allah for his action towards the death of Oyite-Ojok.

Captain Godfrey Kato might have died along with the enemies of freedom, it is not suprising to me. Kato was playing along with the enemies, supporting them in their every action to suppress our freedoms. It was either Kato was dumb, or he sold his soul to the enemies (puppet). Whatever he did, it is too late now to dwell on these puppets of our enemies. I see these puppets as equivalent to the enemy. 

Kipenji, I find it very uncritical ofyou to give the Canadian experience of Black and White as an example to work in a majority Black Uganda or Africa. In Canada they will view all Blacks as the same, but such does not apply in Uganda. In Uganda they will view people according to their TRIBES or nations (whatever they call it). Take the Bakenyi in Teso asan example. In Teso, any Mukenyi is doomed to be at the end of the list to see a doctor. In Teso, Bahiima settlers are viewed as a threat. And these are all "Black" people in our Black Africa, Uganda. Let us stop blinding ourselves when it comes to tribal identity, Uganda is not Canada. Can't you tell the difference??

The fact that you going for the blindness of tribal identity brings me back to the discussion of "personal merit" as being applied to government jobs, where a majority of these jobs are dominated by Ugandans of Western descent. If you thought that such a "fundamental change" was not good for Uganda, what makes you think that tribal identities are bad for the country or Africa at large?? To me, you sound no different from Museveni or Obote. 

An explanation for the reason why non Blacks are going to the Jupiter (where they can not live) is because in Africa, people have still blinding themselves to the fact that we are diverse, tribal-wise. In many parts of Africa, like Uganda, we still have people among us who have failed to grasp this fact. E.g. Obote, Amin, Museveni. These men are elluding themselves to the tribal differences and they have all worked towards killing people of other tribes in order to "unite" Uganda. They thought that by oppressing their tribal opponents, they will get "nationalism". Hahaha, this is such an illussion - the greatest lie any Ugandan president could ever believe. 

The only way to move forward, is to acknowledge the tribal differences in our mothersoil and cut this denial. How should we acknowledge these differences?? = We should see people according to their tribe and have a tribally representative governance. How can we do this??= A tribally representative federalism can do the fundamental magic for us. How can it?? = With every tribe represented a

ugnet_: Re: Thanks be to Allah that Oyite-Ojok is dead!

2004-04-20 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Toro:

I am a mortal as you are my dear. You see, you present noncriticalism of yourself when you try to remind me of me by this "As if you are immortal". That's a wastage of time and you know it. So, why are you saying it anyway?? Trying to hurt my feelings?? = Hahah, I don't think so. We, mortals shall all die, andthat's why our fellow mortal Oyite-Ojok had no business killing some of us.

Oyite-Ojok was a murderer. Why can't you accept that?? Ifyou wanna talk about Sadists in Uganda's history, let us mention: Oyite-Ojok, Obote, Amin, Okello, Salim Saleh, and Museveni. You see, I celebrate when a Sadist dies. I loose nothing but gain a peacefull piece of mind knowing that these murderers are off the face of the earth to leave us in peace. 

Do I gain pleasure from hurting or humiliating other people?? = NO. I only want freedom for all Ugandans, and we have lots of enemies of our freedoms out there, and Allah needs to help us by getting rid of them, himself. I have one life to live, and I must exercise and enjoy my freedoms before I die. I need to see these enemies out of my way towards freedom. Do you have a problem with us enjoying our freedoms??


Zakoomu M.
==Lisa Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




As if you are immortal, you caused people death, then accused then to be killers without evidence. Super natural The same almighty Allah or God will catch up with you sooner or later. Sadists of all time.

Toro

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- Original Message ----- 
From: Rehema Mukooza 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:43 PM
Subject: ugnet_: Thanks be to Allah that Oyite-Ojok is dead!

Members:

I am here to thank the Almighty Allah for the death of Oyite-Ojok. Alyoose naffa! Twakoowa agasajja gano agatemu! - (We are sick and tired of these murderers!) That man was a killer who disguised himself as a "nationalist". But you know what, Allah shall continue to take away the enemies of our freedom, one by one. At the end of the day, we loose nothing but gain a peacefull piece of mind. 

Justice has been served to us who are still living, not considered the dead who lost their lives because of Oyite-Ojok. All Praises Be to Allah, for He is redeeming us from this Axis of Evil (Oyite-Ojok and gang). Let us all celebrate, becauseFreedom is around the corner. When is Obote's death?? We can not wait to see Obote getting burried in Zambia. Hahaha... that killer is just taking up space on this earth for no good reason! Allah, please act on him real soon, for the anticipation is growing stronger.

Zakoomu M.

jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

aaah, let's not argue about the word 'majority', in any case that was a side point. If it pleases you I'll amend it to: a large part of the population were not sad about his death.My main point was, if you wanted to keep your life intact, could you openly celebrate in Kampala at the time ?Kasangwawo
From: "The Fugee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 16:15:45 +0200Who on earth is this elusive majority? Just because some people may holdthat position it is erroneous to assume that they constitute the majority!The Fugee=- Original Message -From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:55 PMSubject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\  gook,   be real ! Do you seriously believe one could openly celebrate in Kampalaat
 mp;g t;
  the time ? What do you think would have happened to such a person ?   Some Ugandans like you might have been sad at his death but the majority  surely didn't miss him.   Kasangwawo==
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ugnet_: Re: Britain still supports Uganda

2004-04-20 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Matekopoko:

Who is going to put the British "at task to explain their position"??= Themselves, theU.S?? The Russians or the French?? The toothless U.N?? 

Hhhmm, I think we need to remind ourselves that there is no one out there who is going to help us put Museveni in check, except Allah. Kony, other rebels, the gov't, the constitution, have all failed to that. And believe me, if Allah gets rid of Museveni, we (me) shall throw a celebration.

We need to stop dreaming of the International Community coming and rescueing us from the evil of Museveni. The International Community failed to do the same in Rwanda. What makes you think it will put task to Britain to explain her position?? Where is the reality??

Zakoomu M.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

All Ugandans should file the article belowif for nothing else but for the record. I swear the British will be put at task to explain their position!!Matek 
-
Britain still supports Uganda The headline and story in the Sunday Monitor of April 18 (Britain suspends aid to Uganda) are misleading. The UK continues to have an active and substantial programme of development assistance to Uganda and a strong development partnership with Uganda's government. In the year to end March 2004 the UK provided a total of £55 million (Ush. 190 billion approx.), through its development programme in Uganda. This figure includes £30 million of direct support for the Government's budget. The £10 million of direct budget support that the UK has been unable to disburse ahead of discussions on the implementation of the Defence Review and defence expenditure in 2004/05 is only a part of this overall programme. Eric HawthornHeadDepartment for International Development, UgandaRwenzori CourtsPO Box 7306KampalaTel
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ugnet_: Re: Zookamu is bancrupt , to say the least!!!

2004-04-20 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Matekopoko:

How am I doing myself a diservice by celebrating David Oyite-Ojok's death?? 
How am I embarassing myself in the highest order by celebrating Oyite-Ojok's death?? 
I think that you need to cut down on your emotions.

Zakoomu M.
===[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zookamu: You so called "critical thinking" is becoming an embaracement of the highest order. You are doing your self a terrible diservice if you begin to celebrtae over the death of Brig. David Oyite Ojok!!Matek Members:I am here to thank the Almighty Allah for the death of Oyite-Ojok. Alyoose naffa! Twakoowa agasajja gano agatemu! - (We are sick and tired of these murderers!) That man was a killer who disguised himself as a "nationalist". But you know what, Allah shall continue to take away the enemies of our freedom, one by one. At the end of the day, we loose nothing but gain a peacefull piece of mind. Justice has been served to us who are still living, not considered the dead who lost their lives
  because
 of Oyite-Ojok. All Praises Be to Allah, for He is redeeming us from this Axis of Evil (Oyite-Ojok and gang). Let us all celebrate, because Freedom is around the corner. When is Obote's death?? We can not wait to see Obote getting burried in Zambia. Hahaha... that killer is just taking up space on this earth for no good reason! Allah, please act on him real soon, for the anticipation is growing stronger.Zakoomu M.


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ugnet_: Re: Zookamu is bancrupt , to say the least!!!

2004-04-20 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Edward:

No, before your emotions take over your judgment, can you remind me where Oyite-Ojok carried out his "missions"?? What were these missions?? In whose name was Oyite Ojok carrying out these missions?? Who washe fighting against?? Who promoted himto a position of a Brigadier?? Why were he fighting??

I can tell you who Brig. David Oyite-Ojok murdered so it can enable you to follow my reasoning. He murdered Ugandans. Answer the questions in the paragraph above.

Zakoomu M.

=Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Matek

No before we make a conclusion on a Ugandan I think it is only fair we give him/her a chance to explain, for example Zakoomu can you tell me who Oyite Ojok murdered? Just that I am able to follow your reasoning.

Em
Toronto

The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"



- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:27 PM
Subject: [Ugandacom] Zookamu is bancrupt , to say the least!!!

Zookamu: You so called "critical thinking" is becoming an embaracement of the highest order. You are doing your self a terrible diservice if you begin to celebrtae over the death of Brig. David Oyite Ojok!!Matek 
===Members:I am here to thank the Almighty Allah for the death of Oyite-Ojok. Alyoose naffa! Twakoowa agasajja gano agatemu! - (We are sick and tired of these murderers!) That man was a killer who disguised himself as a "nationalist". But you know what, Allah shall continue to take away the enemies of our freedom, one by one. At the end of the day, we loose nothing but gain a peacefull piece of mind. Justice has been served to us who are still living, not considered the dead who lost their lives because of Oyite-Ojok. All Praises Be to Allah, for He is redeeming us from this Axis of Evil (Oyite-Ojok and gang). Let us all celebrate, because Freedom is around the corner. When is Obote's death?? We can not wait to see Obote getting burried in Zambia. Hahaha... that killer is just taking up space on this earth for no 
 good
 reason! Allah, please act on him real soon, for the anticipation is growing stronger.Zakoomu M.



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ugnet_: Re: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here

2004-04-20 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Dada:

Thanks for this reality check which Owor Kipenji seems incapable of handling. I think you should also remind these people to focus on developing their regions for a better life other than reading Bukedde in English. Some of these people need a reality check. 

Zakoomu M.

===Adam Dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Owor, in fairness to Baganda, they at least have something to show for their "Gakyaali mabaga". What have we in the north got to show for the dominance of the polical scene post-independece. The truth is - NOTHING!!!. The Baganda may not be Canadians, by they are light years ahead of us and, by the way, we should really concentrate on how we can save the situation in our area, rather than picking on Buganda's "motto that appears to lead us to a cul-de sac". Who is in the cul-de-sac between us and the Baganda? My friend, you better have a reality check and aknowledge the dire situation we Northerners are in dear. Also, when were you last in Buganda? For you info, mud and wattle houses are now almost extinct in Buganda, being replace with corrogated roofed brick and mortar structures throught the Kingdom. We are, on the other hand still heavily burdened with thatched huts as the standard mode of housing. So please brother Kipen
 ji, I
 strongly advise a reality check and direct your efforts where it is really needed.ThanksAdam===
From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here\Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:29:28 +0100 (BST)Mshemiwa Ssenyange,I want to applaud your logic if at allthat passes for one with the exception that you really did notpay attention to those Officers and Men of the UNLA who diedin that Helicopter crash with the then Chief of Army Staff.Do you remember a one Captain Godfrey Kato,a promisingthen 28 year old Muganda who died in that crash just a monthafter his colourful wedding?If you do ,does it mean that you and your fellow Baganda did actuallycelebrate the loss of this young and talented Muganda soldier,whose widow could be one of the listers on this forum?Ssenyange and ilk,the world has two fundamental divid
 e,i.e
 Black andWhite.In Ottawa where you reside,I do not think any non balck personwill ask you whether you are a Muganda first rather than whether youcome from Africa,by the time they ask you which part of Africa you hailthe discussion of your being a Muganda would not arise for that will matter less to them.This explains why these non Blacks are planningto go to the Mars and Jupiter while our blacks in Uganda are still bothering themselves with knowing olunyiriri,entuba and all that crap and busy celebrating other people's demise as if that by itself has precluded them from death.With this type of flawed logic,it is no wonder that the Buganda Motto since about 1200 has been and is:"Gakyaaali mabaga".Can we not stop and revist this motto that appears to lead us to a cul-de sac?.The logic is if whence you do something you get the same flawed results,you ought to change t
 he
 methodology if you are to move forward and that is what I expect of all those intellectuals and elites from MotherUganda.Thank you.Kipenji._-Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:What is the population of Baganda? Just curious !Secondly, some of us were in Uganda and in luwero at the time, but Museveni was the minister of defense, can Ssenyange tell us what happened in Uganda under Museveni's watch? It is one of those questions which will never be answered by our people who are enjoying the road map of peace, same as they say "Ffe kasita twebaka" yet they can not tell you who refused them to sleep all along, just a name who refused Ugandans to sleep?EmToronto The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri M
 useveni,
 Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
 Original Message -From: Y YaobangTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:11 PMSubject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here\Ssenyange:You stated:"... the Baganda who lost the 500,000 relatives under Oyite's command. ..."This is a very serious statement and allegation. I would not be suprised if you ended up in court over this!!y--- From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok’s family secrets buried here\ Date: Sun
 , 18 Apr
 2004 19:52:10 -0400   Owor Kipenji,   As I mentioned in my 

ugnet_: Re: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here

2004-04-20 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Dada:

Kipenji can not challenge your claims. He has turned to swearing at you as a way of challenging you. But that can not work with critical thinkers like you. 

The most sad thing is that such people have migrated to other regions of Uganda while abandoning their own kin and keith in the North. They claim to have alot of "pride" in the North, despite the fact that they have abandoned development there. And now they are very much interested in reading Bukedde in English and criticizing Buganda.

Adam, I thank you for trying to redirect these kinds of people towards prosperity for the North. They have lost hope, but with people like you around, please continue to stir hope into their hearts. These are the kinds of things Northerners should be thinking about before some of them become anti-civilization.

Zakoomu M.

==Adam Dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Kipenji, I'm not surprised at all that you disgracefully bow out of the debate - the reality check had probably hit you at last! Just as well, so you can redirect your misplaced and irrelevant pomposity elsewhere. Just the desire effect! The very least we require of you as your kin is to quit burying you head in sand in the comfort of western prosperity and do something about our people in the North, many of whom still live in caves, which pass for a homes.Thank you.AdamFrom: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here\Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 02:32:37 +0100 (BST)Adam,stop this stupid posturing of being who you are not.This cheap apostasy will take you know where.And for the nth time I will put you together with the obtundeddunderhead Zakoomu in the same q
 uartile
 of those whosepedastal logic will not warrant my indulgence.Thank you.Let your apostasy lead you through your amaurotic philisophyabout life.Thank you.Kipenji.Adam Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Owor, in fairness to Baganda, they at least have something to show for their"Gakyaali mabaga". What have we in the north got to show for the dominanceof the polical scene post-independece. The truth is - NOTHING!!!. TheBaganda may not be Canadians, by they are light years ahead of us and, bythe way, we should really concentrate on how we can save the situation inour area, rather than picking on Buganda's "motto that appears to lead us toa cul-de sac". Who is in the cul-de-sac between us and the Baganda? Myfriend, you better have a realit
 y check
 and aknowledge the dire situation weNortherners are in dear. Also, when were you last in Buganda? For you info,mud and wattle houses are now almost extinct in Buganda, being replace withcorrogated roofed brick and mortar structures throught the Kingdom. We are,on the other hand still heavily burdened with thatched huts as the standardmode of housing. So please brother Kipenji, I strongly advise a realitycheck and direct your efforts where it is really needed.ThanksAdam From: Owor Kipenji Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here\ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:29:28 +0100 (BST)  Mshemiwa Ssenyange,I want to applaud your logic if at all that passes for one with the exception that you really 
 did
 not pay attention to those Officers and Men of the UNLA who died in that Helicopter crash with the then Chief of Army Staff. Do you remember a one Captain Godfrey Kato,a promising then 28 year old Muganda who died in that crash just a month after his colourful wedding? If you do ,does it mean that you and your fellow Baganda did actually celebrate the loss of this young and talented Muganda soldier,whose widow could be one of the listers on this forum? Ssenyange and ilk,the world has two fundamental divide,i.e Black and White.In Ottawa where you reside,I do not think any non balck person will ask you whether you are a Muganda first rather than whether you come from Africa,by the time they ask you which part of Africa you hail the discussion of your being a Muganda would not arise for that will matter l
 ess to
 them.This explains why these non Blacks are planning to go to the Mars and Jupiter while our blacks in Uganda are still bothering themselves with knowing olunyiriri,entuba and all that crap and busy celebrating other people's demise as if that by itself has precluded them from death. With this type of flawed logic,it is no wonder that the Buganda Motto since about 1200 has been and is:"Gakyaaali mabaga". Can we not stop and revist this motto that appears to lead us to a cul-de sac?.The logic is if whence you do something you get the same flawed results,you ought to change the methodology if you are to move forward and that is what I expect of all those intellectuals and elites from Mother Uganda. Thank you. 

ugnet_: Re: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here

2004-04-20 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Kipenji:

How can Adam Dada be an IDIOT?? He is speaking the truth, unlike you who is in denial of under development of the North. In the North, people are still living in grass thatched houses and you are trying to deny it. You galla be livin' la vida fantasia.


Zakoomu M.===
Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Adam, I told you before that I have not time for IDIOTS 
like you.
Wallow in your IDIOCY till kingdom come.
Ugandanet should not be turned into a gossip chat room
by pigs and idiots of your type.
Auf Wieder Sehen!
Kipenji.
_Adam Dada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Kipenji, I'm not surprised at all that you disgracefully bow out of the debate - the reality check had probably hit you at last! Just as well, so you can redirect your misplaced and irrelevant pomposity elsewhere. Just the desire effect! The very least we require of you as your kin is to quit burying you head in sand in the comfort of western prosperity and do something about our people in the North, many of whom still live in caves, which pass for a homes.Thank you.Adam
--From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here\Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 02:32:37 +0100 (BST)Adam,stop this stupid posturing of being who you are not.This cheap apostasy will take you know where.And for the nth time I will put you together with the obtundeddunderhead Zakoomu in the same quartile of those whosepedastal logic will not warrant my indulgence.Thank you.Let your apostasy lead you through your amaurotic philisophyabout life.Thank you.Kipenji.Adam Dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Owor, in fairness to Bagand
 a, they
 at least have something to show for their"Gakyaali mabaga". What have we in the north got to show for the dominanceof the polical scene post-independece. The truth is - NOTHING!!!. TheBaganda may not be Canadians, by they are light years ahead of us and, bythe way, we should really concentrate on how we can save the situation inour area, rather than picking on Buganda's "motto that appears to lead us toa cul-de sac ". Who is in the cul-de-sac between us and the Baganda? Myfriend, you better have a reality check and aknowledge the dire situation weNortherners are in dear. Also, when were you last in Buganda? For you info,mud and wattle houses are now almost extinct in Buganda, being replace withcorrogated roofed brick and mortar structures throught the Kingdom. We are,on the other hand still heavily burdened with thatched huts as the standardmode of housing.
  So
 please brother Kipenji, I strongly advise a realitycheck and direct your efforts where it is really needed.ThanksAdam--
 From: Owor Kipenji Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here\ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:29:28 +0100 (BST)  Mshemiwa Ssenyange,I want to applaud your logic if at all that passes for one with the exception that you really did not pay attention to those Officers and Men of the UNLA who died in that Helicopter crash with the then Chief of Army Staff. Do you remember a one Captain Godfrey Kato,a promising then 28 year old Muganda who died in that crash just a month after his colourful wedding? If you do ,does it mean that you and your fellow Baganda did actually celebrate the loss of this young and talented Muganda soldier,whose widow could be one of the listers on this forum?
 Ssenyange and ilk,the world has two fundamental divide,i.e Black and White.In Ottawa where you reside,I do not think any non balck person will ask you whether you are a Muganda first rather than whether you come from Africa,by the time they ask you which part of Africa you hail  gt;the discussion of your being a Muganda would not arise for that will matter less to them.This explains why these non Blacks are planning to go to the Mars and Jupiter while our blacks in Uganda are still bothering themselves with knowing olunyiriri,entuba and all that crap and busy celebrating other people's demise as if that by itself has precluded them from death. With this type of flawed logic,it is no wonder that the Buganda Motto since about 1200 has been and is:"Gakyaaali mabaga". Can we not stop and revist this motto that appear
 s to
 lead us to a cul-de sac?.The logic is if whence you do something you get the same flawed results,you ought to change the methodology if you are to move forward and that is what I expect of all those intellectuals and elites from Mother Uganda. Thank you. Kipenji. 

Re: ugnet_: Museveni to talk to Mengo

2004-04-20 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Members:

I don't believe that Museveni is going to "talk to Mengo". Ooh, please! How many times has he sworn to talk to Mengo?? The fact is that he has not done so, and he says the opposite. Take a look into his recentTororo speech when he blasted Mengo. Museveni talks his shit about talking to Mengo and the Kabaka when he is in Buganda. Basically to please folks!

Zakoomu M.

===Omar Kezimbira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Museveni to talk to Mengo, New Vision, 21st April 2004









By Alfred Wasike PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has said he is willing to discuss with the Buganda Kingdom officials at Mengo on how much powers they should hold on. “I am ready to discuss with my Mengo friends to determine how much authority they want to hold. I have no problem with discussion but the power must be shared rationally,” Museveni said while commissioning the first phase of a sh2.7b office complex at the Wakiso district headquarters yesterday. Vice-President Prof Gilbert Bukenya and Minister for the Presidency, Alhaj Ali Kirunda Kivejinja, were among the guests. “But I strongly object to all power being usurped from the people at the villages, sub-counties and districts and going to regional tiers. Why should I, a mwanainchi walk from Buwekula to Mengo or Parliament in Kampala to have my problems solved? I have a son called Muhoozi. I can’t usurp the authority of running his house. I can only advise him,” he said as his supporters yelled, “
 Museveni for 3rd term”, “No change” while displaying combined three-finger and thumbs-up signs. Museveni (right), said decentralisation had empowered Ugandans to determine development in their areas. He attacked exiled UPC leader Apolo Milton Obote for tricking the DP and other political actors of the 1960s and concentrating power at the centre and plunging the country into turbulence by abrogating the constitution in 1967. “He was so greedy that he was even appointing gombolola chiefs. But when we went to the bush, we changed all that by restoring power to the people. But some people were against decentralisation,” Museveni said, triggering massive cheers. He said the actual determinants of Uganda’s destiny were ordinary people. “It is wananchi who are the judges of Uganda’s present and future. Those judges like Kanyeihamba can only judge cases of theft of goats. They can’t manage the cases of politics. it is the voters who are supreme. It
  is not
 Kanyeihamba, or the MPs. It is the people who are the best judges because they have the power. “So when I hear certain people saying wanainchi don’t have the power, I really wonder what is wrong with them. Those who want to dilute the people’s power should just shut up. Leaders are servants. They can’t have the same status as their bosses, the people they lead. That is why we went into combat,” he stressed. He said as a result of the Movement’s electoral success in the 1996 and 2001 polls, “We have used that power entrusted to us to bring development from the centre to the people. In 1986, we used to collect sh5b in taxes. Now we collect sh1,600b and soon we shall collect sh1,800b. There are Government efforts, private sector-led by investors and encouragement of household incomes to eradicate poverty,” Museveni said.
Published on: Wednesday, 21st April, 2004


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ugnet_: Re: OMUKYALA MARRY NAGADYA - reminder to Mulindwa

2004-04-20 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Edward:

YES, I expect an answer from you to those questions below. Don't buryyour head in the sand like an ostrich and then later come back with some other nonsense.
Whose money is Obote living off of for all these years??Whose money did Obote use to build UPC House/Uganda House??


Zakoomu M.
==
Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

KasangwawoDid you expect an answer to those questions?EmThe Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"Groupe de communication Mulindwas"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
===- Original Message - From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:32 AMSubject: RE: ugnet_: RE: OMUKYALA MARRY NAGADYA\ reminder to Mulindwa Ms Mukooza, I don't think we should expect a response on this one. He is now going to bury his head in the sand like an ostrich and then later come back withsome other nonsense. Kasangwawo========= From: Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: RE: OMUKYALA MARRY NAGADYA\ reminder to Mulindwa Date: Mon, 19 Apr 
 2004
 08:23:06 -0700 (PDT)  Kasangwawo:  I wonder, maybe Edward can tell us about Obote's money source. Obote abused the presidential powers when he used taxpayers' money to build Uganda House for his then dictatorial UPC govt. I think Edward is a very non-critical thinker.  Whose money is Obote living off of for all these years?? Whose money did Obote use to build UPC House/Uganda House??   Zakoomu M. === jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:  Mulindwa,  since you ask questions and I don't, can you tell us which questions and who you asked to be able to find out that Obote didn't take even a penny ?  Kasangwawo
 
 ===   From: "Edward Mulindwa"  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: ,  Subject: ugnet_: OMUKYALA MARRY NAGADYA\ reminder to Mulindwa  Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 06:56:38 -0400Kasangwawo"It is an open secret that when Obote was kicked out the second time,he  emptied the state coffers on his way out."Is that another must be accepted statement from Ugandans or you can  actually  back it up by telling us how much money Obote took from Uganda banks? Look  the man was taken out of office and you guys got the full control of Uganda  finances, tell us how much you found missing, what is so hard or
 wrong  about  that? Do you know why you can not do that, it is because you found no penny  stolen, but as long as it will waste Obote's name yes it can be posted and  Ugandans will not ask questions. That is the difference between me and you  for I ask questions.Yes I know the defense you will respond with, I am a UPC supporter, but  look  here even if it is Museveni out of office, I need to know how much hehas  looted out of Uganda Banks before I make my self an idiot by postingsuch  un  provable nonsense about him, bad as he is.Em  Hong-Kong The Mulindwas Communication Group  "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"  
 t;
 Groupe de communication Mulindwas  "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ===- Original Message -  From: "jonah kasangwawo"  To:  Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 6:26 AM  Subject: RE: ugnet_: OMUKYALA MARRY NAGADYA\ reminder to MulindwaSsenya,   thanks for reminding our friend, who incidentally is beating 'kyeyo' in  HongKong these days. At least this time round he acknowledges that hewent  backto check on his roots as far back as 1971. That's a good start.   I was just a bit puzzled by his attack on M
 uky.
 Nagadya formentioningNorthern Uganda and yet he spends his whole response talking aboutit. I  canonly conclude that he really believes he is the only one with the right  totalk about this pet subject of his.   It is an open secret that when Obote was kicked out the second time, heemptied the state coffers on his way out. If he is now poor, as our  friendwho pretends to know every detail about his hero's situation istrying  tomake us believe, then it is his fault for having spent his loot  unwisely.   Yes, thanks to the Northerner who led our country so far that even aSudanese could command our nati
 onal
 army !   Kasangwawo ===   From: "ssenya nyange"Reply-To: [EMAI

ugnet_: LRA, Boo-Kech, and UPDF's attrocities in the North

2004-04-20 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Who killed Betty?By Richard M. KavumaApril 15, 2004




Villagers suspect the UPDF, Kony, and the boo-kech





Good samaritan: Maliamu Paliga looks after some of the orphans of the war in northern Uganda (File photo).The Saturday morning that I arrived in Kitgum, news of " what happened to the blind teacher" was just breaking. 

Betty Alum was one of two teachers for the blind at Kitgum Girls Primary School.
They old lady had arrived from Gulu on Thursday. Her home, just outside the lower gate of the school is a few metres away from a UPDF detach that guards the mission.
She sent her daughter to the shops to buy some items on Thursday evening but advised her to sleep in town if it got late before she could be back.
When the 15-year old girl returned the next morning, the door to her mother's house was locked. 
She knocked several times but got no answer.
Fearing that her mother had fallen sick or been taken to hospital, she panicked, and cried.
When the teachers kicked the door open, the key lay in the entrance.
Betty lay on her belly. 
Her packed travel bag sat on her head. A grinding stone lay on top of the bag.
A small bag of charcoal sat on the grinding stone, followed by a smaller grinding stone.
Beside her laden body lay the big stick with which Betty had been brutally killed. 
Her money was gone.
The incident raised a lot of fear among the community of Kitgum mission. 
Betty had taught at the school for 14 years according to headmistress Sister Santa Adongo.
"Father I used not to be scared but now I am scared for the girls," Sr Adongo told the Parish Priest, Fr Joseph Gerner, that Sunday evening.
People were asking how Betty could have been killed without the soldiers nearby hearing.
The soldiers could have been away on a patrol but there was suspicion that the soldiers had a hand in Betty's death. Such is the confused world of war-ravaged Acholi.
That soldiers were the first suspects has as much to do with the proximity of the scene of the murder to the UPDF detach, as with the confidence people have in the force.
Journalists reporting killings have stopped using the line "suspected LRA rebels" and pile all murders, ambushes and robberies on the rebels of Joseph Kony's Lord's Resistance Army.
Even residents say the rebels commit the majority of atrocities.
The Boo Kech 
But they also speak of the Boo Kech. Boo Kech in Luo means "vegetables are bitter." 
Villagers use it to mean armed gangsters who prefer "sweet things" like meat and others that they steal.
The Boo Kech, passing off as rebels, stage ambushes and rob and kill people before disappearing into the bushes.
In some cases, the Boo kech have been known to demand a specific amount of money after one has sold a property or given away one's daughter in marriage.
According to two elderly catechists in Kitgum, the Boo kech and the LRA are bitter rivals.
The Army Spokesman, Maj. Shaban Bantariza says many are ex-rebels, who just abandoned the rebellion, hid their guns and melted into their communities.
Bantariza dismisses suspicion of civilians in Gulu and Kitgum that some of the Boo kech may be soldiers or policemen, or that security personnel hire their guns out to the thugs.
"Why would they be policemen?" he asks.
Perhaps it is because some soldiers have not helped their reputation by committing atrocities similar to those of the Boo Kech.
Cases of indiscipline by the government soldiers have left people suspicious that some of the atrocities blamed on the rebels are actually committed by other armed groups.
On July 20, 2003 the New Vision ran a story of an 'armed man' who shot one Odiya, a Land surveyor in Kitgum town council. The incident, in which the killer was disarmed, happened around 8 pm at Crenar Bar in Kitgum's East Ward. 
Residents say that the gun was traced to the UPDF, although the army at the time only admitted that investigations were underway.
About two months before that, a UPDF soldier had entered a bar in Kitgum where people were watching Premier League Football and shot a teacher of Atanga Secondary School dead. 
The soldier run away with an unspecified sum of money.
On October 8, 2003 the Luo newspaper, Rupiny, carried a story about a UPDF soldier Okello John Bosco who raped 30-year old Christine Ajok in Kitgum.
The soldier shot and killed the woman and her 8-months old son, Richard Ayera.
A 13-year old night commuter in Gulu said he had to leave home early because even the soldiers "can cause you problems if you leave late".They can, the boy said, even kill you.
Still fresh in the memory of Gulu residents was the story of young man, his mother in labour and a UPDF foot patrol unit.
Riding a bicycle with a lantern, the boy was taking his mother to hospital at night on July 24.
At Gulu Police playground, on the outskirts of Gulu town, the patrol commander stopped Francis lakony, 18.
Ms Kacilina Aunu reportedly sat down as her son explained that he had to get his mother to hospital. The soldiers shot the boy.
Then they 

ugnet_: Thanks be to Allah that Oyite-Ojok is dead!

2004-04-19 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Members:

I am here to thank the Almighty Allah for the death of Oyite-Ojok. Alyoose naffa! Twakoowa agasajja gano agatemu! - (We are sick and tired of these murderers!) That man was a killer who disguised himself as a "nationalist". But you know what, Allah shall continue to take away the enemies of our freedom, one by one. At the end of the day, we loose nothing but gain a peacefull piece of mind. 

Justice has been served to us who are still living, not considered the dead who lost their lives because of Oyite-Ojok. All Praises Be to Allah, for He is redeeming us from this Axis of Evil (Oyite-Ojok and gang). Let us all celebrate, becauseFreedom is around the corner. When is Obote's death?? We can not wait to see Obote getting burried in Zambia. Hahaha... that killer is just taking up space on this earth for no good reason! Allah, please act on him real soon, for the anticipation is growing stronger.

Zakoomu M.

jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

aaah, let's not argue about the word 'majority', in any case that was a side point. If it pleases you I'll amend it to: a large part of the population were not sad about his death.My main point was, if you wanted to keep your life intact, could you openly celebrate in Kampala at the time ?Kasangwawo
From: "The Fugee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 16:15:45 +0200Who on earth is this elusive majority? Just because some people may holdthat position it is erroneous to assume that they constitute the majority!The Fugee=- Original Message -From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:55 PMSubject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\  gook,   be real ! Do you seriously believe one could openly celebrate in Kampalaat
 t; 
 the time ? What do you think would have happened to such a person ?   Some Ugandans like you might have been sad at his death but the majority  surely didn't miss him.   Kasangwawo==
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ugnet_: Thanks be to Allah that Oyite-Ojok is dead!

2004-04-19 Thread Rehema Mukooza

Members:

I am here to thank the Almighty Allah for the death of Oyite-Ojok. Alyoose naffa! Twakoowa agasajja gano agatemu! - (We are sick and tired of these murderers!) That man was a killer who disguised himself as a "nationalist". But you know what, Allah shall continue to take away the enemies of our freedom, one by one. At the end of the day, we loose nothing but gain a peacefull piece of mind. 

Justice has been served to us who are still living, not considered the dead who lost their lives because of Oyite-Ojok. All Praises Be to Allah, for He is redeeming us from this Axis of Evil (Oyite-Ojok and gang). Let us all celebrate, becauseFreedom is around the corner. When is Obote's death?? We can not wait to see Obote getting burried in Zambia. Hahaha... that killer is just taking up space on this earth for no good reason! Allah, please act on him real soon, for the anticipation is growing stronger.

Zakoomu M.

=The Fugee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ssenyange,Since you were in Nairobi "witnessing" celebrations of the tragic death ofOyite-Ojok. I personally find it most reprehensible, repulsive and inhumanto celebrate the death of anybody and yet you think it fit to boastfully doso in the name of all Baganda. How then were you also privy to every"household" in Buganda? Why do you pretend to be the spokesman for allBaganda? Who appointed or elected you to be such a spokesman? If you wish tomake such statements celebrating the death of a national (meaning the wholeof Uganda with Buganda included) make them as Ssenyange and do not try anddrag the Baganda into your evil demented folly.Nze,Akena a.k.a. The Fugee
===- Original Message -From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:17 AMSubject: RE: ugnet_: Oyite-Ojoks family secrets buried here\ Akanga, That was part of the celebration which I personally witnessed. Those in Nairobi were done openly because of freedom of _expression_. about that matter. In Buganda, each household celebrated inside their houses-the same way we celebrate Christmas in Canada.You know the obviuos reason why they could not do it openly in Buganda at that time. In Canada, wecelebrate Christmas in our houses because the outside is too cold to enjoy ( average of -17c). Ssenya=
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ugnet_: RE: OMUKYALA MARRY NAGADYA\ reminder to Mulindwa

2004-04-19 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Kasangwawo:

I wonder, maybe Edwardcan tell us about Obote's money source. Obote abused the presidential powers when he used taxpayers' money to build Uganda House for his then dictatorial UPC govt. I think Edward is a very non-critical thinker.
 
Whose money is Obote living off of for all these years?? 
Whose money did Obote use to build UPC House/Uganda House??


Zakoomu M.
jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Mulindwa,since you ask questions and I don't, can you tell us which questions and who you asked to be able to find out that Obote didn't take even a penny ?Kasangwawo
===From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: ugnet_: OMUKYALA MARRY NAGADYA\ reminder to MulindwaDate: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 06:56:38 -0400Kasangwawo"It is an open secret that when Obote was kicked out the second time, heemptied the state coffers on his way out."Is that another must be accepted statement from Ugandans or you can actuallyback it up by telling us how much money Obote took from Uganda banks? Lookthe man was taken out of office and you guys got the full control of Ugandafinances, tell us how much you found missing, what is so hard or wrong aboutthat? Do you know why you can not do that, it is because you found no pennystolen, but as long as it will wa
 ste
 Obote's name yes it can be posted andUgandans will not ask questions. That is the difference between me and youfor I ask questions.Yes I know the defense you will respond with, I am a UPC supporter, but lookhere even if it is Museveni out of office, I need to know how much he haslooted out of Uganda Banks before I make my self an idiot by posting such unprovable nonsense about him, bad as he is.EmHong-Kong The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
==- Original Message -From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 6:26 AMSubject: RE: ugnet_: OMUKYALA MARRY NAGADYA\ reminder to Mulindwa  Ssenya,   thanks for reminding our friend, who incidentally is beating 'kyeyo' inHong  Kong these days. At least this time round he acknowledges that he wentback  to check on his roots as far back as 1971. That's a good start.   I was just a bit puzzled by his attack on Muky. Nagadya for mentioning  Northern Uganda and yet he spends his whole response talking about it. Ican  only conclude that he really believes he is the only one with the right to  talk about t
 his pet
 subject of his.   It is an open secret that when Obote was kicked out the second time, he  emptied the state coffers on his way out. If he is now poor, as our friend  who pretends to know every detail about his hero's situation is trying to  make us believe, then it is his fault for having spent his loot unwisely.   Yes, thanks to the Northerner who led our country so far that even a  Sudanese could command our national army !   Kasangwawo
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   "Mulindwa"- It is obvious to any netter that you have got scores tosettle  with Buganda and Baganda. Yours is not the ordinary balanced criticism -  it is outright hatred. You invariably only have negative, and at that  distorted views about Buganda and Baganda. Clearly, that can't be right.  The Baganda can distinguish between open hatred and constructive  criticism, and this happens all the time here. But the might of  Buganda/Baganda cannot be diminished by non-entities the likes of  yourself. You are my fellow notherner, and it pains me that you have  failed to own up to that fact - instead you have chosed to disguise  yourself in a kiganda name "Mulindwa" to sow hatred and abandon your kin  and keith. We still wa
 nt you
 back - there is nothing wrong with being a  northerner, these are your roots. We want you back openly.  Adam===From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: <[EMAIL 

ugnet_: Re: Oyite-Ojok's_family_secrets_buried_here - Kipenji

2004-04-19 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Kipenji:

Let me tell you something, in this world we live in, people do celebrate the deaths of their enemies. To be specific, people do act to bring death to their enemies through wars and other means. This is not new to a critical thinker like me. I will continue to celebrate the deaths of the enemies of my freedom. Does the celebration prelude me from death?? = NO! Do people who go to war to finish off their enemies eventually die in time?? = YES. Everyone will die, that's the natural law any child knows. 

The point however is that, in the absence (death) of an enemy, we freedom seekers get closer to what we want, and that is freedom. The closer (more enemies die) we get, the more celebrations we carry out. What is there for us to miss (mourn) for these murderers like Oyite-Ojok?? You've got to be kidding me. We weren't born yesterday. We know how this world works. And we shall press for this world to evolve around our FREEDOMS. An enemy of our freedom, is an enemy of our world and civilizations, and thus the enemy should get out of our way (death, exile). We have one life to live. We have no time and space for these enemies. This is why I shall praise Allah for his action towards the death of Oyite-Ojok.

Captain Godfrey Kato might have died along with the enemies of freedom, it is not suprising to me. Kato was playing along with the enemies, supporting them in their every action to suppress our freedoms. It was either Kato was dumb, or he sold his soul to the enemies (puppet). Whatever he did, it is too late now to dwell on these puppets of our enemies. I see these puppets as equivalent to the enemy. 

Kipenji, I find it very uncritical ofyou to give the Canadian experience of Black and White as an example to work in a majority Black Uganda or Africa. In Canada they will view all Blacks as the same, but such does not apply in Uganda. In Uganda they will view people according to their TRIBES or nations (whatever they call it). Take the Bakenyi in Teso asan example. In Teso, any Mukenyi is doomed to be at the end of the list to see a doctor. In Teso, Bahiima settlers are viewed as a threat. And these are all "Black" people in our Black Africa, Uganda. Let us stop blinding ourselves when it comes to tribal identity, Uganda is not Canada. Can't you tell the difference??

The fact that you going for the blindness of tribal identity brings me back to the discussion of "personal merit" as being applied to government jobs, where a majority of these jobs are dominated by Ugandans of Western descent. If you thought that such a "fundamental change" was not good for Uganda, what makes you think that tribal identities are bad for the country or Africa at large?? To me, you sound no different from Museveni or Obote. 

An explanation for the reason why non Blacks are going to the Jupiter (where they can not live) is because in Africa, people have still blinding themselves to the fact that we are diverse, tribal-wise. In many parts of Africa, like Uganda, we still have people among us who have failed to grasp this fact. E.g. Obote, Amin, Museveni. These men are elluding themselves to the tribal differences and they have all worked towards killing people of other tribes in order to "unite" Uganda. They thought that by oppressing their tribal opponents, they will get "nationalism". Hahaha, this is such an illussion - the greatest lie any Ugandan president could ever believe. 

The only way to move forward, is to acknowledge the tribal differences in our mothersoil and cut this denial. How should we acknowledge these differences?? = We should see people according to their tribe and have a tribally representative governance. How can we do this??= A tribally representative federalism can do the fundamental magic for us. How can it?? = With every tribe represented at the national and local level, a fair, just, representation, sharing of power is achieved among all tribes. Can such federalism divide the country?? = NO! such federalism will infact strengthen our country and bring us towards true patriotism. How?? = Because each tribe gets its share of the national cake.

Buganda's "Gakyaali mabaga" - (tip of the iceberg) slogan is not flawed logic, because it has worked for Buganda all this time. Gakyaali mabaga slogan prepares people for what's next, the worst they willsee. There is nothing wrong with being prepared for the worst because the game is survival, and people must secure their future. That aint "flawed logic", if so, prove it. I believe there are other Gakyaali mabaga equivalents in other languages of Uganda. The problem however is that Owor Kipenji, you are trying to scapegoat Buganda and highlight it from the rest with your negative perspective.

Living in Buganda with all its flawed logic, I wonder why people from all parts of mother Ugandatoday are eager to read Bukedde in English. Thesepeoplewanna know and they are very curious about Buganda and its success with all its intellectual logic of "Gakyaali 

ugnet_: Re: Federo is unifying force for Uganda-Christine Nabukeera

2004-04-16 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Lugemwa:

I find it very hard to believe that Nabukeera is the one to post this to Ugandans. Yes, we all agree on Federalism, but Nabukeera's personality is way far from a "sound democratic" one. 

Let us face it, that woman can not democratically go beyond a few members of the "Advocates for federalism in Uganda." I've seen another side of hers, unless if she proves her democratic self to us (me).

Zakoomu M.
===Lugemwa FN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Letters-- www.ugandaobserver.com

http://www.ugandaobserver.com/today/oped/letters/index.php

Federo is unifying force for Uganda
by Christine Nabukeera
"Advocates for federalism in Uganda" is an independent, non-partisan think tank. Its mission is to champion ideas that will help Ugandans make informed public policy choices. 
Our research aims to enhance the quality of the debate on the issues that matter most to Ugandans by focusing on the strategic choices they must make to promote economic performance, social progress and sound democratic governance. 
Federalism is proposed as a tool against bad governance. We are suggesting that we manage our day-to-day governance locally because we have too much difficulty running everything from the centre. 
Most importantly, instead of pretending that we are united, let us actually negotiate and plan that unity.
Hegel once said, "Freedom is the recognition of necessity". In Uganda today, the most important thing we must recognise is the necessity to abandon the current model (unitary) of governance that has failed to serve the whole country.Federalism for all does not favour any region over the rest, but rather treats all regions equally, irrespective of size and wealth. We argue that equal representation should be constitutionally guaranteed and fixed. We embrace an all-inclusive federalism for Uganda for a more efficient, equitable and fair distribution of wealth and resources. 
Christine Nabukeera, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ugnet_: Northern Uganda asked to apologise to Baganda

2004-04-13 Thread Rehema Mukooza




Northern Uganda asked to apologise to Baganda  






Written by Samuel Matekha 




Tuesday, 13 April 2004
Luweero district Chairperson Hajji Abdul Nadduli has said the war in the North will not come to an end unless the leadership of the Northern Uganda apologizes to the Baganda.

Nadduli says that the war in the north is a curse from Buganda’s spirits following the atrocities on Buganda by national leaders who originated from the North.

He said this while addressing hundreds of Movement government supporters who had gathered at Makerere University Primary School.

Nadduli also slammed the Uganda People’s Congress for talking ill of Constitutional amendments. Nadduli says UPC members have no right to debate on the matter since Obote abrogated the 1962 constitution.

Nadduli further urged President Museveni to give the desired respect and property that traditional institutions need.

He says Kingdoms like Buganda, Busoga, Ankole, Bunyoro and Toro lost a lot of property and heritage during the merger to create Uganda. 
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ugnet_: Re: Northern Uganda asked to apologise to Baganda

2004-04-13 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Edward:

Seriously, I can not help your brain to"understand" the stand in the article, unless if you ask me what you don't understand. Read it again yourself, and draw some conclusions. If you have any questions, please direct them to me.

Zakoomu M.===Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Rehema

Can you please help me to understand this stand?

Em

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Northern Uganda asked to apologise to Baganda  






Written by Samuel Matekha 




Tuesday, 13 April 2004
Luweero district Chairperson Hajji Abdul Nadduli has said the war in the North will not come to an end unless the leadership of the Northern Uganda apologizes to the Baganda.

Nadduli says that the war in the north is a curse from Buganda’s spirits following the atrocities on Buganda by national leaders who originated from the North.

He said this while addressing hundreds of Movement government supporters who had gathered at Makerere University Primary School.

Nadduli also slammed the Uganda People’s Congress for talking ill of Constitutional amendments. Nadduli says UPC members have no right to debate on the matter since Obote abrogated the 1962 constitution.

Nadduli further urged President Museveni to give the desired respect and property that traditional institutions need.

He says Kingdoms like Buganda, Busoga, Ankole, Bunyoro and Toro lost a lot of property and heritage during the merger to create Uganda. 



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ugnet_: RE: Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - is this a joke?

2004-04-12 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Odwe:

In the presence of sound things to say, I would not seek the wisdom of saying nothing!

Since when did I say that you "do not like" one identifying him/herself as a Muganda?? You sounded very negative towards the Kiganda civilized identification process. 

You claimed that Edward never asked you to know your tribe when you met him. By the way I don't believe that crap, because Edward has just finished asking about Museveni's tribe.We all thought that Edward does not ask people their tribes. That's a contradiction, very hypocritical! Using "oyo mwana wani?, yeddira ki?, avaawa?".

Hahahahaha, you sound very unfocused on this particular writing of yours. Federo itself has nothing to do with Buganda, Baganda, because it exists in countries outside b-Uganda. I think that you can do better with your misinformed reasoning. 

You cancall me awoman which seems more to your liking. There is no need for you to fake this lady crap which I can read through. Be yourself. I can perfectly see beyond my feet.

I got the idea to identify you as a Northerner because of that weird Odwe name. It definately did not sound Bantu like. There is nothing wrong with my mentality of generalizing weird sounding Eastern names to the North, after all some Easterners are close cousins to the Northerners in language, traditions, cultures, and Names. The similarities can not be denied. Can they?? And what is wrong with these similarities??

I am open minded and I don't mind listerning to views that oppose mine in good spirit. You let me know of your views and I will let you know of mine intended in good spirit.However, do you havean openmindset to listen to views opposing yours in good spirit?? What I wrote about the Northern and Eastern regions if the benefit of balanced development throughout the country. Development should not be limited to Southern regions. This is the main reason for the need of Federalism.

By the way, this man Edward you were rescueing from reality, can not stand views that differ from his in good spirit. Explain your support for such a character.

Zakoomu M.



When you say that I am "anti non-Baganda, I hate them, I am laughing at their suffering, etc", I think you need to back up these allegations.

===joseph odwe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Mukooza
I the absence f any sound thing to say would please seek some wisdomof saying nothing?For example when you claim that I do not like one identifying him/herself as a Muganda could you back that up? Are mixed up so much in this federo thing that you no longer distinguish between federo,Buganda, a Muganda and Baganda in your thinking? Wake up lady or is it woman? It is year 2004 our there. It's time to see beyond your feet. By the way I notice that you had no answer to my question as to where you got the idea that I indefied myself as a Northener. Ooops I had forgoten that it's your mentality and tendancy to generalize also percieve your illusions as absolute fact. The norm that comes through sound and clear in your expresions here on this forum. With this kind of thinking it's only you who will have to save you from yourself. Do so by revisting your thought with an open mindset open to what those with opposing views have to say in good spirit. Owaye kwa
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 17:22:19 -0700 (PDT) 

 

Mr. Kironde: 

 

Odwe is a hypocrite as they all come.On one side the hates Baganda for identifying themselves as Baganda and their clans.Yet on the left side, he is identifying himself as a "Easterner".What kind of uncritical thinking is that?? 

 

"Mulindwa" can not be what Uganda needs.He does not have what it takes to exactly be that.Ever since I've been on this net, I've not hard sense from Edward.He is anti-democracy, according to his record for supporting Obote.Mr. Kironde, I agree with you. 

 

Zakoomu M. 

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Joseph Odwe 

 

Kudos to Mulindwa to have resisted what you call backward thinking of identifying oneself with a totem, or clan.It also happens that people who say “abo beddira ki, or bannamawanga” happen to be Baana Ba Kintu.I am not sure whether your salvo is directed to the Baganda who zealously take pride in “miz

ugnet_: Re: Museveni aids Obote family (Using cows donated by Heifer International?)

2004-04-10 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Edward:

Did Obote put a former regional leader (Ssekabaka Muteesa II) in England?? Why?? 
Did Obote have a formal arrangement with England to take care ofthat past regional leader (kabaka)??

True fighters of freedom must as well demand thatObote had toput Ssekabakato court/s if he truly believed that he misused his position. If Obote had a case against the Kabaka he should have made it. All I am hearing all along is a simple "Munange nawulidde" and I can not function from such. 

If you knew thatSsekabaka Muteesa II wasagainst freedom, charge him, but your idiotic solution of keeping him at bay means that Obote killed as many Baganda as hedid as long as he wasable to keepthe Kabakaat bay in England. 

I am sorry I do not buy that, I need ournational leaders to be accountable and I amincensed at Obote for that man is still standing on the atrocities he committed on innocent people. And it is onlyinjustice that has protected Obote to today. Do not delude your self. And the accusationsI am making against that mancan only survive in a Uganda community, because it is the community he tortured and murdered. 

IfSsekabaka Muteesa IIwas against freedom, one must wonder whyUPCnever charged him, when itwent to Lubiru and killed people. 

Maythe soul of Ssekabaka Muteesa IIrest in peace with all those (Luweero etc) murdered by your UPC.

Zakoomu M.

=Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Mukooza

Does Zambia put her former leaders in Uganda, or let me put it this way, does Uganda have a formal arrangement with Zambia to take care of her past leaders? True fight for freedom must as well demand that we put those leaders to court/s if we truly believe that they misused their position. If you have a case against Obote make it. All I am hearing all along is a simple "Munange nawulidde" and I can not function from such. If you know that Obote is against freedom, charge him, but your idiotic solution of keeping him at bay means that Museveni can kill as many as he can as long as we will be able to keep him at bay in Sweden. I am sorry I do not buy that I need our national leaders to be accountable and I am proud ofObote for the man is still standing on his deeds, and it is only deeds that have protected Obote to today. Do not delude your self. And the accusations you are making against the mancan only survive in a Uganda
 community.

IfObote was against freedom, one must wonder why NRM has not charged him, when it can go to Luzira prison and murder a disabled man like Alhaji Musa Ssebirumbi. 

May he rest in peace with all those murdered by your NRM.

Em
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Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:16 PM
Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Museveni aids Obote family (Using cows donated by Heifer International?)

Edward:

You asked to know why we should keep Obote out of Uganda. My answer is that he is an enemy of freedom and thus, he must be kept at bay.

And I also believe that it is a humanely thing to help out Obote's family with cows and stuff. Helping Obote's family is not the problem. The problem is the great threat Obote posses to our freedoms of political parties, Kingdoms, Federalism, and Democracy at large. 

We do not play with our enemies, we fight them off to liberate ourselves! I believe we are doing so in Obote's case. 

Zakoomu M.==Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Why?

Em
Hong Kong

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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:49 PM
Subject: ugnet_: Re: Museveni aids Obote family (Using cows donated by Heifer International?)

That is a very humanely thing to do for Obote's family. But we have to keep the former dictator out of Uganda. That's a must.
===J Ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 



Museveni aids Obote family APAC ?President Yoweri Museveni has been lauded for donating 25 cows and sh10m to former president Milton Obote’s family in Akokoro sub-county, Apac. The LC3 chairman, Robert Olinga, recently said Museveni had acted considerately and humanely. Apac gets AIDS funds APAC ?The Uganda AIDS Commission has donated sh70m for Communit

ugnet_: Re: NYTimes.com Article: Remember Rwanda, but Take Action in Sudan

2004-04-09 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Members:

Whenever I hear Ugandans calling on the "international community" to help resolve the situation in the North, I think these Ugandans are simply dreaming! The International Community (UN)is not in position to help our brothers and sisters in concentration camps. 

What we need is for Kony to stop his guerilla war, flee to Sudan and let Northerners and Eastern "sleep". Whenever I hear some people excited whenever Kony kills a UPDF soldier, I get the feeling that these people do not want peace. This dictator is going to keep the blood flowing in Northern/Eastern Uganda for quite sometime, before he dies.
What we need is strategies for the North/East to have peace. One of these strategies would be for Kony to leave the bush.

Zakoomu M.

=J Ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Op-Ed Contributor: Remember Rwanda, but Take Action in Sudan 


April 6, 2004 

By SAMANTHA POWER 






Ten years ago this week, Rwandan Hutu extremists embarked 

on a genocidal campaign in which they murdered some 800,000 

Tutsis and moderate Hutus - a genocide more efficient than 

that of the Nazis. 


On this anniversary, Western and United Nations leaders are 

expressing their remorse and pledging their resolve to 

prevent future humanitarian catastrophes. But as they do 

so, the Sudanese government is teaming up with Arab Muslim 

militias in a campaign of ethnic slaughter and deportation 

that has already left nearly a million Africans displaced 

and more than 30,000 dead. Again, the United States and its 

allies are bystanders to slaughter, seemingly no more 

prepared to prevent genocide than they were a decade ago. 


The horrors in the Darfur region of Sudan are not "like" 

Rwanda, any more than those in Rwanda were "like" those 

ordered by Hitler. The Arab-dominated government in 

Khartoum has armed nomadic Arab herdsmen, or Janjaweed, 

against rival African tribes. The government is using 

aerial bombardment to strafe villages and terrorize 

civilians into flight. And it is denying humanitarian 

access to some 700,000 people who are trapped in Darfur. 


The Arab Muslim marauders and their government sponsors do 

not yet seem intent on exterminating every last African 

Muslim in their midst. But they do seem determined to wipe 

out black life in the region. The only difference between 

Rwanda and Darfur, said Mukesh Kapila, the former United 

Nations' humanitarian coordinator for Sudan, "is the 

numbers of dead, murdered, tortured, raped." 


A radio exchange between a Sudanese ground commander and a 

pilot overhead (taped by a British journalist in February) 

captures the aims of the attackers: 


Commander: We've found people still in the village. 



Pilot: Are they with us or against us? 


Commander: They say they will work with us. 


Pilot: 

They're liars. Don't trust them. Get rid of them. 


And later: 


Pilot: Now the village is empty and secure for 

you. Any village you pass through you must burn. That way, 

when the villagers come back they'll have a surprise 

waiting for them. 


The lessons of Rwanda are many. The first is that those 

intent on wiping out an inconvenient minority have a habit 

of denying journalists and aid workers access and of 

pursuing bad-faith negotiations. Thus far the Sudanese 

government has pursued both approaches, and Western 

officials have been far too trusting of their assurances. 


A second lesson is that outside powers cannot wait for 

confirmation of genocide before they act. In 1994 the 

Clinton administration spent more time maneuvering to avoid 

using the term "genocide" than it did using its resources 

to save lives. In May 1994, an internal Pentagon memo 

warned against using the term "genocide" because it could 

commit the United States "to actually do something." In the 

case of Sudan, American officials need not focus on whether 

the killings meet the definition of genocide set by the 

1948 Genocide Convention; they should focus instead on 

trying to stop them. 


A third lesson is that even when the United States decides 

not to respond militarily, American leadership is 

indispensable. This is especially true because Europe 

continues to avoid intervening in violent humanitarian 

crises. And it remains true despite the Bush 

administration's unpopularity abroad. The United States 

often takes an all-or-nothing approach: if it doesn't send 

troops, it tends to foreclose other policy options. 


In Sudan, this tendency has been compounded by the 

administration's reluctance to risk undermining the peace 

process it has spearheaded between Sudan's government and 

the rebels in the south. While President Bush is 

understandably eager to show he can make peace as well as 

war, he must stand up to Sudan's government during these 

difficult negotiations. 


After all, regimes that resort to ethnic killing and 

deportation as a tool of 

ugnet_: Re: Quota system should be applied for the sake of fairness

2004-04-08 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Edward:

If Federalism makes sure that the Central Govt sponsors students from all regions of Uganda to promote fairness, Isn't that "good governance"?? What you are actually admitting here is that Federalism is good governance. The truth can reveal itself, and what you've said is an example of that. 

Thanks Edward, for finally acknowledging that Federalism is Good Governance. It is now about time you teach your gang about the goods in federalism. Do that, and then we can continue as our discussion as well informed people.

Zakoomu M.===Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




"Under Federalism the Central Govt will have to sponsor students from all regions of Uganda to promote fairness to all regions of Uganda."

That is not done by Federalism, it is done by good governance.

Em
Hong Kong 
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Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Quota system should be applied for the sake of fairness

Members:

If this S. Nairuba knew what she wanted, she should be supporting the Busoga Kingdom in its quest for Federalism. Under Federalism the Central Govt will have to sponsor students from all regions of Uganda to promote fairness to all regions of Uganda. 

This is how bad this Unitary system is working! There is no fairness! Promote Federalism for all.

Zakoomu M.J Ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Quota system should be applied for the sake of fairness
SIR ?I request the government to help students from upcountry schools and apply the quota system when selecting students to public universities this year. This is because the system will promote fairness to all districts. Most students who passed on merit are from central Uganda, which has good schools and too expensive for upcountry students. So the rich afford the tuition in those schools, pass highly and are the same ones who qualify for government sponsorship at the expense of poor students! S. Nairuba Kamuli
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ugnet_: Re: Yowere Tibuhaburwa(?) M7?

2004-04-08 Thread Rehema Mukooza
Edward:

Your question is: "Is Kaguta Museveni's father?"

My answer is: Is that not a question of "oyo mwana wani?."

What I want is a response from you concerning my answer to your question. We have no time to waste. Get serious!

Zakoomu M.
==Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Rehema if you do not know the answer to my question, say you do not know.

Em

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Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 5:36 PM
Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: Yowere Tibuhaburwa(?) M7?

Edward:

You asked: "Is Kaguta Museveni's father?"= Isn't that a question of "oyo mwana wani?"?? You are eithera hypocrite or a sectarian! I want you to critically think. 

If you dare ask where Museveni's father or mother come from, then you are into "oyo avaawa?". If you ask to know what Ankole section he hails from then, you are using "oyo yeddira ki?."

When sensible people ask you; who are your parents?, grandparents?, where they came from?, where you come from?, what's your clan?; you get angry and unreasonably refer to them as "anti non-Baganda" or tribalists. Yet on the other hand you are pressing for the same questions towards Museveni. 

You have proved to me how non-critical of a thinker you are. Indeed Uganda's problem is not only leadership but the population of the likes of Edwards. No wonder development is stagnant in Northern because what can Edward possibly offer there?? Other than taking up space.

Zakoomu M.

=Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 




Zakoomu

Is Kaguta Museveni's father?

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The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"

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From: Rehema Mukooza 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:37 PM
Subject: [Ugandacom] Re: ugnet_: Yowere Tibuhaburwa(?) M7?

Edward:

Are you insane?? Do you have any sense in your peanut brain?? This is what I have been talking about all this time. The evidence is here for all to read for themselves. Edward is anuncritical thinking,hypocrite.

I personally find it very disturbing and hard to believe that Edward is questioning Museveni's lineage. Edward should not be the person to say such about Mu7 and hedoesnot hold any moral judgementto use "oyo yeddira ki?, mwana wani?, avaawa?" to question the dictator's lineage in publics. This hypocrite Edward should be ashamed of himself because he can not bring such nonsense to us, in public.

Edward, I am sorry to say but you have no sense. Museveni will have no problem using a mentality as yours to install himself a dictator for life. This why I will continue to mark you as a uncritical thinker and a hypocrite. Since when have you started to legitimize this "Oyo yeddira ki?, Mwana wani?, Avaawa?" syndrome?? This is another sign of a level of immaturity, sectarianism, and plain old fashioned lack of intelligence, in Edward's character. 

Members: Edward is using "oyo yeddira ki?, mwana wani?, avaawa?" syndrome to discriminate Museveni and other Ugandans. Edward uses it against a selection ofpeople and then he dispises it when used on some people. Does this man have any sense in his head?? What is the difference between who he uses it against and who he uses it not against?? = The difference is Sectarianism. 

This man has no moral right topreach to Ugandans not to use "oyo yeddira ki?, mwana wani?, avaawa?" when he is using it himself. The problem in Uganda is not only leadership, but also the uncritical thinking population of Edward and gangs.

Zakoomu M.

=Edward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Musaazi is Kagame Museveni's father? Since when?Should readMusaazi is Kaguta Museveni's father? Since when?EmFrom: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 9:15 PMSubject: Re: ugnet_: Yowere Tibuhaburwa(?) M7? People Why are we even having this discussion here, is this news? So no body out there ever heard that when Museveni became the president, his father cameto Uganda to see him and he gave him money and instructed him to disappearfrom Uganda? Museveni re

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