Announcing: New Lithuanian Webpage for OpenOffice
Thanks to the efforts of Aivaras Stepukonis we now have a new native-language website for Lithuanian! http://www.openoffice.org/lt/ If anyone is interested in helping translate the core website (around 30 pages) send a note to l...@openoffice.apache.org and we can help you get started. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Please remove my info
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 9:07 AM, M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote: On Sat, May 31, 2014 3:00 pm, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Good catch, Brian! I'll remove that document in one week if nobody objects. If the document is still there in one week, feel free to send a reminder. considering the nature of the request and of that document, if I had editing access to that website, I would: 1) remove it NOW. Why wait, in case like this? If and when somebody objects later, let's listen to their reasons. 2) figure out how and why that stuff ended online in the first place? It appears to have been uploaded on August 27th, 2013 by user account Drtammie. -Rob Marco -- Help *everybody* love Free Standards and Software: http://digifreedom.net --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
OPENOFFICE USERS LIST -- PLEASE READ
The Apache mailing lists have been down due to a hardware failure. More information can be found on the ASF Infrastructure blog here: https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/mail_outage If you are reading this note that means that the lists are back up (yeah!) and the queued up list traffic is now being delivered. When this happens, expect some confusion, including: 1) List subscribers surprised or confused by the sudden surge of traffic as the queued up emails are delivered. 2) Some requests to unsubscribe because of 1) above. 3) Some repeat emails from people who didn't get a response to their original posts because the lists were down. Some of them may be irate. 4) Some test emails from people trying to figure out why their email was not coming through. So it will be messy Let's not make this messier than it is. Consider this note (and the linked blog post) to be an adequate response to anyone asking about the mail outage. I'd recommend focusing on any backed up product support questions. Thanks for your patience and understanding! Regards, -Rob, Your Friendly List Moderator --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Remove me from this mailing list . This is my 3rd request
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Tony Gallas tony.gal...@spin.net.au wrote: Please, if you cannot contribute anything constructive, do not post anything. Direct comments such as these to C3PO. +1. This is a working list, not a free discussion or a chat list. Every post we write goes out to over 500 other busy people who are trying to help users with OpenOffice. Out of respect for their time and attention we should keep our posts focused on that task. Regards, -Rob, Your Friendly List Moderator On 14/05/2014 11:24 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: Maybe some THING is talking to you. The exact meaning is not on the text. You suffer because you do. What THING are you sending emails to bother? If logic people can not remove you from the mailing list, you have to resort to emotional people. If you doubt the server is doing wrong, it is too hard to say. If the server is emotional, can you hear it? Just as R2D2. 2014-05-13 17:54 GMT+08:00 Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org: Thanks, your moderators are handling these requests without too much noise on the list. No need to comment. On 13/05/14 17:43, wils_m...@compuserve.com wrote: See the unsubscribe instructions at the end of the email. -Original Message- From: John Hart Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:30 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Remove me from this mailing list . This is my 3rd request Please note the List Conduct Guidelines; are not appended to this message requesting to be removed from the list. On 5/12/2014 2:01 PM, adesiredspi...@aol.com wrote: Remove me from this mailing list, big in case you can't understand this. This is my 3rd request. I hate my email box is over stuffed please please remove my name too -Original Message- From: Marvin seper...@comcast.net To: users users@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Sat, May 10, 2014 9:35 pm Subject: Remove me from this mailing list Please remove my email address from this mailing list -- The message source with headers follows -- From - Mon May 12 23:12:28 2014 X-Account-Key: account2 X-UIDL: Y1~!!*?!h%!eJ@! X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: X-Mozilla-Keys: X-UIDL-JANA-SERVER: Y1~!!*?!h%!eJ@! Return-Path: users-return-7554-x=nospam@openoffice.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by testra.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with SMTP id s4D61f4Z023285 for xx...@nospam.com; Tue, 13 May 2014 02:01:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 36650 invoked by uid 500); 12 May 2014 21:01:36 - Mailing-List: contact users-h...@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: mailto:users-h...@openoffice.apache.org List-Unsubscribe: mailto:users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org List-Post: mailto:users@openoffice.apache.org List-Id: users.openoffice.apache.org Reply-To: users@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 36642 invoked by uid 99); 12 May 2014 21:01:36 - Received: from Unknown (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 May 2014 21:01:36 + X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of adesiredspi...@aol.com designates 64.12.143.79 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.12.143.79] (HELO omr-m05.mx.aol.com) (64.12.143.79) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 May 2014 21:01:31 + Received: from mtaomg-aan02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aan02.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.80]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8D6FB70242705 for users@openoffice.apache.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 17:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-afa07b.mail.aol.com (core-afa07.mail.aol.com [172.27.24.7]) by mtaomg-aan02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 52F403881 for users@openoffice.apache.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 17:01:07 -0400 (EDT) References: 1465997611.5047079.1399782477531.javamail.r...@comcast.net To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Remove me from this mailing list . This is my 3rd request In-Reply-To: 1465997611.5047079.1399782477531.javamail.r...@comcast.net X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: adesiredspi...@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=MB_8D13C3C6D833D55_1E0C_68D25_ webmail-d139.sysops.aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail STANDARD Received: from 4.53.178.206 by webmail-d139.sysops.aol.com (149.174.18.29) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 12 May 2014 17:01:06 -0400 Message-Id: 8d13c3c6d7293ae-1e0c-23...@webmail-d139.sysops.aol.com X-Originating-IP: [4.53.178.206] Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 17:01:07 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1399928467;
Apache OpenOffice Weekly News #3
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_weekly_news_3 Contributions for next week's issue are welcome on the wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40508638 Regards, -Rob --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open Office 4.1.0 - McAfee Couldn't Verify
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Issy Vern verni...@care4free.net wrote: McAfee gave me a red shield with a warning that it could not verify the supplier of the software. I wonder if this is realted to the Windows feature of digitally signing executables aka authenticode? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/ms537361%28v=vs.85%29.aspx http://blog.didierstevens.com/2008/12/31/howto-add-a-digital-signature-to-executables/ Does Apache sign its releases w authenticode? never checked. In any case, the lack of an authenticode signature is no danger by itself, if you check the file integrity by other means (ie SHA256SUM). Although I admit it´d be nice to have Apache identified as a software publisher via authenticode signature of the executables... Modern anti-virus programs have something called reputation checks. If you try to run a program, it does the normal scan for known viruses. But then it also checks to see if other users have encountered that program before as well. If many people have run it, and reported no problems, then it is given the green light. If it is a program that few people have run, then it is flagged as high risk. The problem fixes itself after a few days, as more and more people install AOO 4.1 and the anti-virus companies see AOO 4.1 as common. Code signing with Authenticode would help as well. They might trust signed programs, even if they are uncommon. Regards, -Rob FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Shame on you.
Hi Terry, You have a right to be upset, but I think your anger is misdirected. We do not bundle any other programs with Apache OpenOffice. Absolutely none. Our downloads are carefully scanned for viruses and are accompanied by digital signatures and cryptographic hashes to allow users to verify their integrity. However, there are 3rd parties that sometimes take OpenOffice and bundle it with other applications of the kind you describe. In some cases they put up fake websites, or purchase advertisements in search engine search results, to lure people to their website. You can read more about this, and what you can do about it, in the following blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/how_to_safely_download_apache As others have suggested, it would help if you can check your system, your browser history, download directory, etc., to ascertain exactly what website you downloaded from and what program (name, date and size) you downloaded. That information can help us identify the culprit and take further action. You mention reporting this incident to consumer authorities. I recommend that as well, as we do in the blog post, but please be careful to first identify exactly what occurred and who is to blame. I can assure you it was not us. Regards, -Rob Weir, Apache OpenOffice Security Team On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Terry Lugviel tlugv...@ymail.com wrote: It's bullshit that you trick us into installing crap malware that includes home page hijackers like FindWide search among others. You should be ashamed to carry such harmful software let alone trick people into installing it as if it's part of the OpenOffice package. You WILL be reported to several consumer protection services and I think you should be fined and sued for infecting our computers with this crap. SHAME ON YOU YOU CHEAP MORONS --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
OpenOffice Weekly News #2
The new issue is out and you can find it here: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_weekly_news_2 Remember, this is powered by your submissions. So be sure to add new stories to the wiki, so we have material ready for next week: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40508638 Regards, -Rob --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
A Reminder on List Conduct Guidelines
Please remember our list conduct guidelines, which can be found here: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html A link to them appears in the footer of every post on the list as well. In particular, note the headers of Respect one another, Be nice, Don't respond when you're angry and Relax. I really don't want to start banning people again, so please, let's just let this thread end and move on. AOO 4.1 is coming out, probably tomorrow. We'll have a lot more important things to discuss soon. Thanks! -Rob (List Moderator) --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: HeartBleed bug
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: According to MalwareBytes, Apache is very vulnerable to the HeartBleed bug. Any truth in that? Here's what they say: Cheers, Maurice Howe It is a bug in OPEN SSL. It affects version 1.0.1 through 1.0.1f (inclusive), and it affects servers that run Apache and NGINX mostly. Open SSL is used in a lot of things and the complete list of what is affected has yet to be tabulated, so there's probably other stuff too. Apache and NGINX are the most important ones to start with. They are talking about the Apache HTTP server. It is clear in context, it affects servers that run Apache and NGINX mostly. The thing to note is that Apache in general is the Apache Software Foundation, a public charity that is the umbrella organization for over 170 open source projects. Every one of them has a name that starts with Apache, e.g., Apache OpenOffice, Apache Hadoop, Apache Subversion, etc. For short names, in informal use, we often just call them OpenOffice, Hadoop, Subversion, etc. The one exception is Apache HTTP Server, where the short name is typically just Apache. Why? Because it was the very first Apache project, the project that lent its name to the Foundation when it was created. Regards, -Rob --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice Weekly News #1
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:41 AM, circul...@gmx.com wrote: Thanks Rob Been hoping for something like this for a long time. Or something like the emails that firefox sends to users, though with more about what is in the pipe. Can we get it emailed to us? That would be my preference. Unfortunately can't find out from edition 1 as am getting error message 404 on trying to have a look: Sorry! We couldn''t find your document A power surge disrupted the server the blog was on. It should be working now. Our blog does have an associated Atom feed. If you look around you'll find numerous services that will let you receive an email notification based on feed updates. Some email clients also have built-in feed support. Regards, -Rob Cheers On 21 Apr 2014, at 13:48, Rob Weir wrote: The first issue is out and you can find it here: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_weekly_news_1 Remember, this is powered by your submissions. So be sure to add new stories to the wiki, so we have material ready for next week: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40508638 I'd love to have content next week related to the users mailing list and/or user forums. A link to an interesting user question, an FAQ, a good tip for users, etc. Regards, -Rob --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: How long to fix a bug?
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM, circul...@gmx.com wrote: How long does it take to fix a bug, please? It depends on the bug. Some get fixed quickly. Some may never be fixed. And is there any point in reporting them? Yes. Even if a bug is not quickly fixed it is good for the developers to know what bugs are out there. In some cases when they make a major change in one area they will look in Bugzilla to see if there are any other related bugs (lower priority ones) that they can fix at the same time. Bug reports are useful for users as well, and IT professionals who support users. The bug reports can describe workarounds, and at the very least they confirm the bug exists, which can reduce the frustration of users when they are not being certain. Its great that some of them are getting confirmed now, but even that has taken several years in some of the examples below - 4 1/2 years in one. None have been fixed yet. (nb only have public wifi so can't download the latest beta - sorry). You can find ones older than that, if you look hard enough. But this is not a queue for movie tickets. Bugs are triaged according to severity and impact, not time. Volunteers typically prioritize based on that, though obviously their own interests and expertise play a role as well. There are several serious bugs to report - particularly in outline and template management, while working in metric (which presumably the vast majority of users do) is a nightmare at present. But doing so is time consuming, and there seems little point if nothing is getting fixed, or certainly no urgency if it takes years to do so. EXAMPLE 1: BUG IN OUTLINE - BUG 98752 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=98752 This was first reported 02 February 2009 but was not confirmed. It caused me huge problems in 2011 so was reported independently on the forum (because finding out how to report a bug was so obscure) and confirmed by Hagar Delest on 01 October 2011 here: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=44287p=204470sid=d016d92716a51e5c9d2cf10631ae8b0d#p204470 Did as required. Nothing happened until 07 August 2013 when Rob picked it up, which was a very welcome surprise after so long. The QA volunteers have been doing a great job working on the back log of older, unconfirmed issues. In many cases we find the old issues are stuck for lack of additional information from the reporter of the issue, e.g., lack of an example document. In other cases old bugs are no longer reproducible. They were fixed in an earlier release. And in some cases they are real defects which we are glad to classify as such. The goal of reviewing these old reports is to make sure that Bugzilla correctly reflects the actual state of the OpenOffice product, what bugs actually exist in the most recent version. It is slow work, but we're catching up. Btw, if you (or anyone else) is interested in helping with this, we welcome all volunteers. Personally I find it a relaxing diversion to review old bug reports, see if they still are bugs, remove duplicate reports, etc. Info for how to get involved is here: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html Regards, -Rob EXAMPLE 2: ORGANISING TEMPLATES - BUG 118552 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118552 First reported 26 October 2011. Confirmed on 03 April 2014. Still hasn't been fixed. EXAMPLE 3: UPDATING STYLES - BUG 121785 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121785 Reported 18 Feb 2013. There is a problem with updating styles, which doesn't behave as stated in help (which covers the topic very badly). On this one, can't get the problem confirmed, and can't even get a response. EXAMPLE 4 : ICON LABELS BUG 121766 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121766 This one is embarrassing. Undo is labelled 'Can't Undo and Redo similarly, and have been since 2007 at least, which must be obvious to millions of users. Astonishing that no-one has picked it up. Reported it on 13 February 2013 was confirmed admirably quickly. Naively, it would seem dead simple to fix - just correcting a couple of labels - but it slipped through to OpenOffice 4 and is still there. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open Office Writer Issue
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 09:34:56 +0100 andrew.2.d...@bt.com wrote: Hi, I am a user of your Apache Open Office product, I have recently experienced some problems with my OO Writer files where all my files are returning a mess of ASCII Garble instead of the intended text. Can you help me please, I've checked the online help but I don't see any resolution to this issue...? Regards Andrew Dunn It is often the case that when an OpenOffice file returns the ASCII filter options screen it has become corrupted. Such corruption often occurs with improper (too speedy) close down of the computer (not allowing time for hardware/software write buffers to flush) or working direct to a USB stick and improper observance of correct USB removal protocols. Hmm Andrew is saying that all of his files were effected. Short of something that corrupted the entire hard drive that would be very unusual. A few questions: 1) Did you change anything recently on your computer, since the last time you successfully worked with these files? For example, did you upgrade OpenOffice? 2) What OS and version are you running? 3) What kind of documents are these? What are the file extension? 4) Can you try loading these files on another machine? Does that work? Regards, -Rob Rename the files to type .zip (at operating system level) and see if an archive utility will open the file. Your content should be in content.xml If the files don't open the archive may be damaged. How much (if any) is recoverable depends on which repair utility you use. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Really need help.
Sounds like this issue: http://technofyi.com/2013/11/25/dismiss-pesky-last-time-opened-openoffice-popup/ -Rob On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Oda Andersen oda-ander...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I use open office at school.. Suddenly clicked entire program and now it says: The last time you opened OpenOffice.org, it unexpectedly quit while reopening windows. Do you want to try two reopen its Windom again? and If you choose not to reopen the windows, you may have to open and position the windows yourself. Also there are two buttons Don` t Reopen and Reopen. If I try to press Dont reopen I come automatically to the Reopen, so when I try to press the reopen nothing happens, it does not work. I really need help. I tried to powered off my Mac, but I can not do it because openoffice are open, and it does not work.., I NEED HELP. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: James Ho is on leave from 21 April to 27 April 2014.
Hi James, Your out of the office notes are being sent to the many hundred subscribers of the OpenOffice users mailing list. This is not good. Could you check your mail client for how to prevent this from happening? There usually is an exceptions rule that you can define. I've unsubscribed you from the mailing list for now. You are welcome to resubscribe once you have fixed this. Thanks! -Rob On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 6:34 PM, jam...@datalink.com.hk jam...@datalink.com.hk wrote: Dear All, I am on leave from 21 April to 27 April 2014. For urgent issue, please contact: Sales manager: Mr. Aero Pang (ae...@datalink.com.hk) Presales: Mr. Ivan Au (iv...@datalink.com.hk) All could be reached at 852-2364 0317. James Ho --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
OpenOffice Weekly News #1
The first issue is out and you can find it here: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_weekly_news_1 Remember, this is powered by your submissions. So be sure to add new stories to the wiki, so we have material ready for next week: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40508638 I'd love to have content next week related to the users mailing list and/or user forums. A link to an interesting user question, an FAQ, a good tip for users, etc. Regards, -Rob --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
The Apache Software Foundation Announces 100 Million Downloads of Apache™ OpenOffice™
[Rob: Please help spread the word by sharing this link with your friends on Facebook, Twitter, Google+, etc.] this announcement is also available online at http://s.apache.org/4BL Leading Open Source office application and personal productivity suite for Windows, Mac, and Linux reaches a major adoption milestone 17 April 2014 --Forest Hill, MD-- The Apache Software Foundation (ASF), the all-volunteer developers, stewards, and incubators of more than 170 Open Source projects and initiatives, announced today that Apache OpenOffice™ has been downloaded 100 million times. Apache OpenOffice is the leading Open Source office document productivity suite, available in 32 languages on Windows, OS X, and Linux. OpenOffice includes a word processor (Writer), a spreadsheet (Calc), a presentation editor (Impress), a vector graphics editor (Draw), a mathematical formula editor (Math), and a database management program (Base). As Open Source software, Apache OpenOffice is available to all users free of charge; the C++ source code is readily available for anyone who wishes to enhance the applications. Originally created as StarOffice by StarDivision and after further development as an Open Source product under the name OpenOffice.org, OpenOffice entered the Apache Incubator in 2011 and graduated as an Apache Top-level Project in October 2012. I'm extremely pleased to see us reach this major milestone in less than two years, said Andrea Pescetti, Vice President of Apache OpenOffice. This is a testament to our community volunteers: the hundreds of talented individuals who make Apache OpenOffice what it is, who write the code, test for bugs, translate the user interface, write documentation, answer user questions and manage our servers. We remain committed to offering the successful combination of reliability and innovation that so many users appreciate. Official downloads at openoffice.org are hosted by SourceForge, where users can also find repositories for more than 750 extensions and over 2,800 templates for OpenOffice. By continuously improving Apache OpenOffice Extensions and Templates sites we show how committed we are about providing projects with what they need most, said Gaurav Kuchhal, General Manager for Slashdot and SourceForge. We are happy to help open source projects to grow, no matter where they are hosted or developed. We have been serving over 122 Million downloads for the Apache OpenOffice project, with daily peaks of about 250,000 and we are committed to providing products and services that demonstrate our dedication to technical excellence. Apache OpenOffice reaching 100 million downloads is a remarkable achievement in the project's 29-year history and testament to the power of successful Open Source communities, said Shane Curcuru, Apache OpenOffice mentor and ASF Vice President of Brand Management. We extend our gratitude to all the volunteers and users whose contribution, feedback, support, engagement, and enthusiasm keeps us focused on delivering great software. We couldn't celebrate this milestone without them! Some Trends and Fun Facts about Apache OpenOffice - OpenOffice supports Microsoft Windows, Apple OS X and Linux - Top downloads by operating system, in order: Windows, Mac, Linux - Top downloads by browser, in order: Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome - Top 10 countries for OpenOffice downloads, in order: United States, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, United Kingdom, Spain, Russia, Canada, and Poland - OpenOffice supports 120+ languages --those that are 100% translated and maintained are officially released. Latest languages released include Asturian, Basque, Danish, Korean, Norwegian, Polish, Scottish Gaelic, and Swedish, thanks to the work of new translation volunteers - Apache OpenOffice features integrated improvements from IBM Lotus Symphony (a previous fork that has been closed and donated to the ASF) to bring better compatibility with Microsoft Office documents - OpenOffice 4.0 debuts a major change to its user interface with the introduction of the Sidebar, developed by the Apache OpenOffice dream team in Hamburg in close cooperation with hundreds of community members - OpenOffice 4.0 reflects 500 bug fixes, advances in Microsoft Office interoperability, enhancements to drawing/graphics, and performance improvements, among many others - The new logo for OpenOffice was chosen after a long selection process that saw over 5,000 votes cast. The winning proposal was submitted by community member Chris Rottensteiner from South Tyrol - Demand for Apache OpenOffice 4.0 averages 1 million downloads per week - The Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 maintenance release fixes critical issues and improves the overall quality of the application, including: additional native language translations, bug fixes, performance improvements, and Windows 8 compatibility enhancements - Apache OpenOffice successfully supports the Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA) and IAccessible2 interfaces,
Re: Any thoughts on Tutor.com's policy of MS Word only?
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Deutsch jdeutsch.aspl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jack, Excellent point about following directions in general -- that deserves its own discussion, probably on a career forum. My question is: What are your (collective) thoughts on this specific direction? For example, is it technically necessary, or not? Does Tutor.com strictly enforce it? Do you know of similar sites which don't insist on it? Etc. I have no knowledge about Tutor.com specifically, but it would be interesting to find out the nature of their dependency on MS Office. 1) Is it merely a matter of comfort and familiarity? 2) Do they have a technical dependency on the Microsoft file formats? (In that case you could remind them that OpenOffice can read and write the MS binary formats: doc, xls and ppt) 3) Do they have a technical dependency on the Microsoft Office application itself, say via macros or extensions? Regards, -Rob Cheers, Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Listen to the universe while it whispers before it has to shout. Marion Grobb Finkelstein, Communication Catalyst -- http://www.MarionSpeaks.com On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:23 PM, japples japp...@europa.com wrote: Another thought, it was clearly stated MS products were required. Applying without the required products demonstrates the inability to follow direction. Jack Jeffrey Deutsch wrote: Hello, I'm thinking of applying for an online tutoring position at Tutor.com. However, they require that tutors (and applicants, for the mock tutoring session) have Microsoft Word (2007 or later) itself -- they specifically say that OpenOffice is not acceptable. I'd rather not spend $110 just to get MS Word (or $140 for MS Office, or $10/month or $100/year to rent MS Office) for this specific job, when OpenOffice/LibreOffice has worked just fine for me for the past decade. Does anyone here have any relevant experience (eg, does Tutor.com in practice allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, is it absolutely necessary to get MS Word, do you know of similar online tutoring services that allow OpenOffice/LibreOffice, etc)? Thank you in advance! Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Listen to the universe while it whispers before it has to shout. Marion Grobb Finkelstein, Communication Catalyst -- http://www.MarionSpeaks.com --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Reminder: Make sure you are included in our AOO 4.1 credits page
The Help/About box of OpenOffice has a link to this credits page: http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html We link to that page from our website and mention it in release announcements. That page links to this wiki page for a list of our volunteers: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers If you are a newer volunteer you might not have an entry there yet. If so, please add one. If you already have an entry, please review and update if needed. Note: This is not just for programmers. Everyone who contributed is encouraged to add their name. This includes QA, beta testers, translators, those helping answer user questions, writing documentation, admin work on our web sites and services, etc. Thanks! -Rob --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Permission to use Firefox Browser
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote: Original Message From: Administrator ad...@bankaltim.co.id To: users@openoffice.apache.org Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 09:27:45 +0800 Dear Open Office, BPD Kaltim is one of Region Bank in Indonesia, our central office located at Samarinda, East Borneo. We have tested Open Office Program as alternative program for documents edit, as a result Open Office Program was the most compatibilty at client or server computers. We have plan to use Open Office Program as Program for documents editfor our client and server pc. Trough this email we would like to ask Open Office Program permission to use Open Office Program as default program for documents editin our company to fulfill our IT Risk Regulation. Thank you for your consideration, we look forward to hearing from you soon. Regard, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND ACCOUNTING DIVISION BANK PEMBANGUNAN DAERAH KALTIMANTAN TIMUR Phone : +62 541 735500 ext 311 314 || Email: ad...@bankaltim.co.id Website: http://www.bankaltim.co.id [http://www.bankaltim.co.id/] Your subject line is misleading, because the Firefox web browser is developed by the Mozilla Foundation not the Apache Software Foundation. You do NOT require any permission to use the Apache OpenOffice software. Please see the Apache License, Version 2.0 details here: http://www.openoffice.org/license.html and a more general overview here: http://www.openoffice.org/why/index.html That is certainly how it feels to users, that they don't need permission to use OpenOffice. But a more correct way to say it is that the Apache License gives the permission to everyone, and that no *additional* permission is needed. Any time you copy a creative work (beyond fair use) you need permission. But with open source software the permission, instead of being negotiated or sold, is given at no cost to all and described in an open source license. But it is still permission. The complication comes from companies performing audits of their internal business controls, and trying to ascertain whether they are legitimately using the software they are using. They might only be familiar with commercial licensing terms. In those case I like to point them to the license, since that is the statement of their permissions. Regards, -Rob Please note that only genuine security issues should be posted to the private secur...@openoffice.apache.org address. Regards Dave --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Replacement login information for Rastadog at Apache OpenOffice Templates
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:08 AM, dr_mur...@nym.hush.com wrote: Dear Sirs or automated reply unit: On behalf of all the other subscribers to this list who are equally confused as to what you are talking about, I'll just say that downloading Apache OpenOffice requires no login or personal information. You just go to http://www.openoffice.org/download and click the link. If you ran into some other behavior, it would help if you could give a *brief* description of what you were attempting, and what messages you saw. Digressions concerning the NSA or the history of the internet will not help us diagnose the problem you ran into. Regards, -Rob You outdid yourselves by sending me an Information e-Mail that contained no information. I foolishly tried to find some of the alleged providers of the code that appears to be required as a handshake of sorts between the provider and client. Unfortunately, this supposedly simple improvement on logins - makes me have to ask the following - (1) exactly what purpose does it serve?, (2) it requests about as much accessible personal info as NSA (who incidentally will have no problems whatsoever in hacking this information), and (3) it requires me to waste time getting onto a web-site that at one time tried to claim that they were Open Source. The latter is a meaningless claim when the net effect of your ID login is to become useful only to companies like Google and others who profit on metadata, and will clearly be thrilled to get more than ever dumped into their servers under the guise of security. There hasn't been any internet security for so long that the claim is ludicrous on its face. More to the point, exactly why does an open source vendor of an Office product need this type of security? My experience with your web-site was sufficiently infuriating that I will make no future effort to obtain you product. I recall downloading OpenOffice before it needed this level of guarding, a simple e-mail address and login name was sufficient. That minimal interaction didn't seem to present a hazard to either SourceForge or Apache as you both remain in business. Frankly, I am glad that you are, and applaud your many software introductions over the years. So I wonder what has changed so much to lead you down the very same path of various surveillance agencies? Perhaps (hopefully) it was meant as attempted countermeasure to our complete loss of privacy. On the latter point, I would simply remind you of all the other methods of software protection and privacy that have failed to achieve either over the span of the last 40 years. This one won't fare any better, but will assuredly lose you clients. How can you be such brilliant coders and not grasp that you have become involved in a software Arms Race in which you have ZERO chance of prevailing, but an enormously high probability of further eroding what little privacy remains. Unintended consequences, particularly when unanticipated, are particularly difficult learning experiences. Best of luck when you finally grasp that your work will ultimately become the death knell for the internet, as you will have been a big help in its further abrogation of constitutional rights, and even worse you will have helped militarize it beyond recognition. So, I actually don't need Open Office in the slightest, and am sorry that despite you cleverness in coding, that cleverness plays no part in your appreciation of your malignant social impact. Best regards,M. Urban, Ph.D. On March 31, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Apache OpenOffice Templates wrote: Replacement login information for Rastadog at Apache OpenOffice Templates Rastadog, A request to reset the password for your account has been made at Apache OpenOffice Templates. You may now log in by clicking this link or copying and pasting it to your browser: http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/user/reset/166063/1396317916/HavINtumGcAdEcpqMSVN7gv9om1W1e3zm3PAck2qtC0 This link can only be used once to log in and will lead you to a page where you can set your password. It expires after one day and nothing will happen if it's not used. -- Apache OpenOffice Templates team --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: NEED HELP
Several great answers to this question, but the original poster probably saw none of them ;-) It is a pain, but remember, users are not required to subscribe. So be sure to cc your response to their email address, not just the list address. If you are curious in checking to see if any particular post comes from a subscribed user, look at the full headers for the email. If you see a header line like: Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.apache.org Then this means the user's post went through moderation because they were not a subscriber. Yes, this sucks. Gravity sucks as well. Both require some habitual effort to overcome ;-) -Rob On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:47 AM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote: Robin Rinsler wrote: Can OPEN OFFICE be used for a PC? Yes. Just go to www.openoffice.org to download it. OO is available for Windows, Linux Mac. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Your Adress
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Roberto Santana rsantana...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Do not see any mention in your Terms and Conditions of use of http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html of your Adress, for Admin or for any eventual Legal reason, or to contribute to be able to ensure funds arrive the right organisation in case of issue with the bank. Is there somewhere a kind of HQ to whom formal / legal communications may be adressed? Apache OpenOffice is a project of the Apache Software Foundation. You can find there contact info, including physical mail address, here: http://apache.org/foundation/contact.html Or, if you are just looking to contact the Project Management Committee of the OpenOffice project you can send an email to priv...@openoffice.apache.org. Or, if this does involve bank transfers, you can contact fundrais...@apache.org. I believe the contact_us page gives d...@openoffice.apache.org for admin questions. Regards, -Rob Where is it located ? Thanks Best regards Roberto SANTANA 34300 Agde, France --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache signature good but no public key
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Shawn Pringle f361...@hotmail.com wrote: In attempting to verify /Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz with the KEYS I got from https://people.apache.org/keys/group/openoffice.asc, gpg reported Can't check signature: public key not found. Here is the complete and exact output from gpg: gpg: armor header: Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Cygwin) gpg: assuming signed data in `Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz' gpg: Signature made Fri 20 Sep 2013 05:51:52 PM ART using RSA key ID 3E3CB8C9 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found When you reply to the list, please reply also to this email address. It verifies for me, a good signature from Herbert Duerr. Can you share the command line you used to invoke gpg? And I assume you imported the openoffice.asc keys first? Regards, -Rob Shawn Pringle --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Fwd: OO 4.1 and accessibility support
Forwarding to Claus, in case he is not subscribed. As Steve says, entering the issue into our Bugzilla issue tracking system is best if you have a defect to report. But if you just want to discuss a possible issue and find out if it is a known bug or expected behavior, then the mailing list is fine as well. Regards, -Rob -- Forwarded message -- From: Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com Date: Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:33 AM Subject: Re: OO 4.1 and accessibility support To: users@openoffice.apache.org Hi Claus, I recommend you to report the problem by AOO bugzilla https://issues.apache.org/ooo. Or you can send a mail directly to d...@openoffice.apache.org or q...@openoffice.apache.org. :) On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Claus Thøgersen c.th...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I do not know if this is the correct list to ask this q question. In the 4.1 beta the accessibility support has been changed and hopefully improved. Of course not all things currently work as we would expect, and there are differences between using JAWS or the NVDA screen reader. For normal users it is impossible to know if the problems we see are related to OO or are caused by the screen reader support of the accessibility interfaces. So where and how do we report problems? Claus -- Best Regards, Steve Yin --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
AOO 4.1 Beta Survey
If you have been trying the Apache OpenOffice 4.1 Beta we'd like to get your feedback. You can find our Beta survey here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/732688/ If you have not yet tried our Beta, and want to, you can read more about it on our blog: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/seeking_beta_testers_for_apache if you just starting to try the Beta feel free to work with it for a few days and then come back to the survey. We'll continue collecting Beta feedback for another week or so. Thanks! -Rob --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Question on Licensing
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Amit Pange amit.pa...@prime4services.comwrote: Hi, We are planning to install Open Office for our colleagues. Do we need to buy any licenses to use open office? I read something on the website regarding Apache 2 License. But I was wondering if the Open Office is a free to use software, what purpose an Apache 2 License solve? The word license, in this context, means permission. So a software license describes what permissions have been given to you to use, modify, redistribute, etc., the software. Commercial software vendors sell the license (permission) for their software. Open source projects, like those from the Apache Software Foundation, give the license for free. But we still have a license which explains exactly what your permissions are. Regards, -Rob Awaiting your reply. Freundliche Grüße / Best regards, *Amit Ashok Pange* *Project Engineer* -- [image: cid:image001.gif@01CDE766.D0C00CE0]http://www.prime4services.com/ mobile +49 173 29 92 132 fon (central) +49 721 60 957 888 fax +49 721 60 957 980 Rüppurrer Str. 1 | 76137 Karlsruhe | Germany www.prime4services.com Court of Jurisdiction Amtsgericht Mannheim | Germany Commercial Register HRB 708033 | VAT N° DE 267661449 Managing Directors Beate Krüger | Yasmine Peters | Marco Glauner -- P *Before printing, think about the environment*
Re: My document won't show up
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:52 PM, heathereaststor...@yahoo.ca wrote: I have had countless problems with this program, and am beginning to HATE it. I think that the only reason that I’m actually bothering with it is that I need the document I saved. At first, the only thing happening was that I could only get a “Read Only” or a “Copy” version of my document. I fixed that. After I did, however, the only thing that came up was #. I’m serious! All that comes up is: ## Pages and pages of only that! How do I fix this?! And I’ve already tried to change the document from a odt. to doc.. Can you get back to the file where you had it as read only? The version with the #'s is clearly hosed. There is nothing there. It is possible the document at an earlier stage was recoverable. But it is hard to say without more details. Regards, -Rob What do I do?! Sent from Windows Mail --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: cannot open .docx document
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Suzanne jax778...@ymail.com wrote: I have used Open Office for years, on a few computers. My new computer uses Windows 7, and I am unable to open .docx files. Will Open Office not open docx files? What version of OpenOffice are you using? What error message are you seeing? The latest version of OpenOffice, 4.0.1, should open docx files. -Rob --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AMAZING -- Case of Subscription via a Remailer Address [was: Re: Removing yourself from the list :)]
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Tom Panfil tap.h...@verizon.net wrote: These people *cannot* send from their Remailer Addresses. They do, if they use GMail SMTP servers which allow setting up aliases for sending email. And remember, Moderators are generally happy to help users unsubscribe if they run into actual technical difficulties. One way they can indicate they are running into problems would be to send a note that says something like: 1) I tried to unsubscribe 2) Here is the command I sent 3) Here is the error message I received back -Rob FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Securing Open Office
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Kirby, Wayne robert.wayne.ki...@saic.com wrote: Good evening. Is there a guidance document to secure Open Office? Hi -- OpenOffice is configured to be suitable for most users right out-of-the-box. For example. macro security is set to require confirmation before executing unsigned/untrusted macros. As you probably know, making a configuration secure is not a binary on/off thing. It starts with understanding what your risks are, based on your usage patterns and threat assessments, and mitigating those risks. For example, some are concerned only about executable code in documents, aka macros, while others are worried about data leakage in the form of personal information in documents. There are things you can do to mitigate these risks, but there is no one-size-fits-all set of hardening recommendations that would be correct for all users. But in general you'll want to look at the configuration options under Tools/Options/OpenOffice/Security. The help files (press F1 to bring up help) explains the operation of these options. Regards, -Rob Thanks. R, R. Wayne Kirby | SAIC CISSP-ISSEP robert.wayne.ki...@saic.com Office (301) 995-7337 Cell (301) 997-8297 NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the identified recipients. It may contain proprietary or otherwise legally protected information of SAIC. Any unauthorized use or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete or otherwise destroy the e-mail and all attachments immediately. --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Ask OpenOffice #2
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Around this time last year we invited you to send us your questions about Apache OpenOffice, the things you always wondered about the product, or questions about the OpenOffice open source project. We had you enter these questions into Google Moderator, where you could also view and rate questions that other users had submitted. We took the top 10 questions, as voted by you, and answered them on our blog: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/your_top_questions_answered We're doing this again, hoping for some more great questions. Technical questions, questions about the open source project, questions about where we see things going in 5 years, all are good candidates. But please avoid repeating questions that were already answered in last year's blog post. We'll ignore those. Also, support questions should still go to our community support forums (http://forum.openoffice.org/) for faster response. Ask OpenOffice is intended for questions of broader interest to users and the community. Last year when we did this we saw 274 questions, and 1,743 votes, from 365 users. I think we'll do even better this time! To submit your question, and to view and rate questions already submitted, go to this page and click on Submit a question: http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=214628 It is about time to wrap this up. If you still have question to enter, please do so. If you can spare a few minutes to vote on the existing questions, that is even more important at this stage. Your votes are what determines the top questions. You can view the questions submitted so far here: http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=214628t=214628.40 I'm planning on closing this in one week. Thanks! -Rob Note: If for any reason you are unable or unwilling to access Google Moderator, you can send the question to me and I will enter it for you. Regards, -Rob --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: File formats for the Draw program
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Tom Backer Johnsen bac...@psych.uib.no wrote: I would like to draw some figures using Draw to be used in a LaTex document, but as far as I can see, none of the file formats offered in that programs are used in Latex. Are there (a) some kind of addition to OpenOffice that can offer something like .png to .tif files to be exported, or (b) some other drawing program to be recommended? You should try a File/Export rather than a File/Save As... You'll see more formats there, including PNG. Regards, -Rob I am using a Mac with OS X. Tom --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: autocorrect file
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Sandra Clark sclark5...@mchsi.com wrote: I used Open Office 4 on a Vista computer. I now have another computer with Windows8. Where is my autocorrect file on the Vista computer and where do I copy it to my Windows 8 computer? Hi Sandra, On your old computer launch OpenOffice Writer and go to Tools/Options/Paths in the menu. There should be an entry there for AutoCorrect. That tells you where the file is stored. Do the same on your new computer to see where you need to copy it. Note: Default Windows configuration may hide these directories. If so, you'll want to follow these steps to unhide them: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/show-hidden-files#show-hidden-files=windows-7 Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Updated List Conduct Guidelines
Updated List Conduct Guidelines have been posted to the website: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html The main addition is item 10, which describes the role of list moderators. Regards, -Rob, Your Friendly Mailing List Moderator - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Tracking document corruption reports
I've created a short survey related to document corruption issues, specifically the kind where the contents of a file is replaced by hash marks. The survey asks the user for information related to the circumstances of the issue, the machine configuration, OpenOffice settings, etc. The hope is that we can collect this information is a systematic way and narrow down the problem. So when we see reports of this kind of problem again, let's please ask the user to enter the details here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/334187/lang-en This will be most useful for new reports going forward, where the user will have this information fresh in their mind. However, if you have a good recollection of a previous incident, you can enter the details for those as well. (I've posted this information on the English Community Forum as well) Thanks! -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft of document corruption survey
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Steve Ahlers sahlers...@yahoo.com wrote: Rob, A question about how frequently update/download patches for OS Never Rarely Monthly Weekly When ever available--manually Automatically update I left MY computer for several hours... Thanks, I made those changes. I also added a question suggested by Martin, about whether more than one document was open. And I added a question asking whether any OpenOffice extensions were installed, and which ones. -Rob Steve Sent from my iPad On Jan 14, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/334187/lang-en The idea here is to have a systematic way to collect information related to the hash mark issue that we see reported from some users. If we can point the users to a survey like this, we can collect all the relevant information in one place and hopefully detect the patterns and narrow down the possible causes. There is more I need to do on the finer details of the survey, to add some screen shots, fix up the next, make some fields context sensitive (only ask Windows version for Windows users, for example). But I'd like to see if there are any top-level things I should change? Any new additional questions, for example? Feel free to try it out, enter some data, etc. But don't use it for real reports yet since I'm planning on tossing out any test data and starting the survey over again when ready. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft of document corruption survey
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Steve Ahlers sahlers...@yahoo.com wrote: Rob, A question about how frequently update/download patches for OS Never Rarely Monthly Weekly When ever available--manually Automatically update I left MY computer for several hours... Thanks, I made those changes. I also added a question suggested by Martin, about whether more than one document was open. And I added a question asking whether any OpenOffice extensions were installed, and which ones. The link to the updated version is here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/334187/lang-en -Rob -Rob Steve Sent from my iPad On Jan 14, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/334187/lang-en The idea here is to have a systematic way to collect information related to the hash mark issue that we see reported from some users. If we can point the users to a survey like this, we can collect all the relevant information in one place and hopefully detect the patterns and narrow down the possible causes. There is more I need to do on the finer details of the survey, to add some screen shots, fix up the next, make some fields context sensitive (only ask Windows version for Windows users, for example). But I'd like to see if there are any top-level things I should change? Any new additional questions, for example? Feel free to try it out, enter some data, etc. But don't use it for real reports yet since I'm planning on tossing out any test data and starting the survey over again when ready. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: spell check
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Scooter scoo...@scootersdesk.com wrote: Shouldn't it be a requirement that if you want an answer to your question, you be a member of the group? Else, what's the point? I Know you'll say I don't mind. but again what's the point. Any one can send a note to the list, though posts from non-subscribers are held in moderation, and passed through if it is not spam. The same is true of all of our mailing lists. This means that it is always a good idea to copy the person asking the question when responding, especially if it is not a name you recognize. You could also check the email headers to see if it was moderator (look for Delivered-To: moderator) but this can be a pain, depending on your email client. -Rob Take Care. Scooter College Park, MD USA Hagar Delest wrote on 1/15/2014 3:24 PM: Forwarded to OP (not subscribed). Alex, please see below. Hagar Le 15/01/2014 21:20, johnny smith a écrit : On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 19:59:01 -, ALEX CARSON alex.cars...@btopenworld.com wrote: Following the installation of version 4.0.1 on my netbook running windows 7 starter, The spell checker underlines every word in the document. I checked that the language was set correctly and the dictionaries were also set, in the tools options menu. I have tried uninstalling it and the re - install but nothing works. it may be of use to try this: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Draft of document corruption survey
http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/334187/lang-en The idea here is to have a systematic way to collect information related to the hash mark issue that we see reported from some users. If we can point the users to a survey like this, we can collect all the relevant information in one place and hopefully detect the patterns and narrow down the possible causes. There is more I need to do on the finer details of the survey, to add some screen shots, fix up the next, make some fields context sensitive (only ask Windows version for Windows users, for example). But I'd like to see if there are any top-level things I should change? Any new additional questions, for example? Feel free to try it out, enter some data, etc. But don't use it for real reports yet since I'm planning on tossing out any test data and starting the survey over again when ready. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Ask OpenOffice #2
Around this time last year we invited you to send us your questions about Apache OpenOffice, the things you always wondered about the product, or questions about the OpenOffice open source project. We had you enter these questions into Google Moderator, where you could also view and rate questions that other users had submitted. We took the top 10 questions, as voted by you, and answered them on our blog: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/your_top_questions_answered We're doing this again, hoping for some more great questions. Technical questions, questions about the open source project, questions about where we see things going in 5 years, all are good candidates. But please avoid repeating questions that were already answered in last year's blog post. We'll ignore those. Also, support questions should still go to our community support forums (http://forum.openoffice.org/) for faster response. Ask OpenOffice is intended for questions of broader interest to users and the community. Last year when we did this we saw 274 questions, and 1,743 votes, from 365 users. I think we'll do even better this time! To submit your question, and to view and rate questions already submitted, go to this page and click on Submit a question: http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=214628 Note: If for any reason you are unable or unwilling to access Google Moderator, you can send the question to me and I will enter it for you. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Publisher Templates?
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Austin Shelton ashelt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A friend of mine is considering switching from her Windows computer to a Macintosh. She is stuck because she uses Microsoft Publisher and an equivalent is not available on MacOSX. I am thinking that maybe she could use OO instead. Here's the thing. It seems like I could set up templates in OO (if possible). That's what she uses the most. So my question is: Has anyone developed templates for (for example) greeting cards, business cards, etc? Can you share your templates with us? Hello Austin, Today is your lucky day! We have an entire repository of templates for OpenOffice, over 1000 of them. You can find them here: http://templates.openoffice.org/ Regards, -Rob Thank You, -- ashelt...@gmail.come sites.google.com/site/ashelton3 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: sending resume using open office
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: Bravo, Rob! I don't know if you have some magic to blot out political, religious, racial, etc, material but I hope so. Most of us simply want to get to the meat is issues, not wade through a lot of off-topic stuff. In practice, no. Once a user has subscribed the content they post is sent out immediately, with no moderator review. In my personal opinion (noting that we have no policy on this point) if someone has a small tag on their posts, in the nature of Go Red Sox! or Praise Jesus or Ernest Rutherford, the New Zealand Einstein or Progressives To The Front! or I Like Tabby Cats, to express their personal identity, and this tag is not disproportionate to the length of their post, then I don't see a problem. I think it would cause more distraction and disruption than it would save, to communicate and enforce such a prohibition, especially on a list that has many one-time posts from non-subscribers. But note: there is a clear distinction between expressing pride in one's own affiliation and attacking someone else's. I hope we agree that the latter should not be permitted. Thanks for all you guys gals do. It's terrific! Case in point: The Community Forum (https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/) that Hagar pointed us to is a real help when looking for particulars. Yes, the Forum volunteers do a great job. Regards, -Rob, Your Friendly List Moderator - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Next steps for the AOO users list
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I just want to make sure that you all know that we're not ignoring this list and its recent troubles. The PMC is taking this very seriously and discussing what actions to take. This discussion may take another day or two. Once done we'll act but also have clearer procedures in place for how to act more swiftly in the future. So please, bear with us a little longer. We'll be back to normal soon. OK. It is done. Thanks for bearing with us as we worked this out. Hopefully we can now get back to helping OpenOffice users! Regards, -Rob For anyone new to the list who is not familiar with the PMC, you can read more here: http://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html#pmc Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Next steps for the AOO users list
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote: Eh? What's done? Is there a report or something we should see? I'm not going to call out names. Those affected have been notified. They are now unable to post to this list, though they can remain subscribed if they want to read posts. They are also welcome to submit support questions to the OpenOffice Community Forum [1]. So no one has been denied the ability to get free community support for OpenOffice. If anyone feels they were unfairly treated they are welcome to escalate to the PMC at priv...@openoffice.apache.org. In the future I would not expect things to carry on this long, nor for there to be a need for a report. Moderators are empowered to ban disruptive users. We're also adding more moderators for this list, so there is ample coverage across time zones. We should all appreciate that there are over 500 subscribers to this mailing list. Staying on-topic, brief, and focused on the purpose of this list (OpenOffice user technical issues) is a necessary discipline for ensuring a pleasant experience for us all. Regards, -Rob [1] https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ Maurice Howe (a dedicated AOO user, but a weary blog follower) -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:46 PM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Next steps for the AOO users list On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I just want to make sure that you all know that we're not ignoring this list and its recent troubles. The PMC is taking this very seriously and discussing what actions to take. This discussion may take another day or two. Once done we'll act but also have clearer procedures in place for how to act more swiftly in the future. So please, bear with us a little longer. We'll be back to normal soon. OK. It is done. Thanks for bearing with us as we worked this out. Hopefully we can now get back to helping OpenOffice users! Regards, -Rob For anyone new to the list who is not familiar with the PMC, you can read more here: http://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html#pmc Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Pages?
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Dena Mossar dmos...@yahoo.com wrote: does Open Office read Pages documents? Can Pages read Open Office documents? Hi Dena, Sorry for the delay. It looks like your question fell through the cracks. No, we cannot read Apple's Pages format. Your best bet would be to export to a DOC file (Microsoft Office 97-2007 format) and then load that in OpenOffice. -Rob Dena Mossar Sent from my iPa - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reminder: List Conduct Guidelines
Intructions for how to unsubscribe are in the footer of every post to this mailing list, including this one ;-) If for some reason this is not working for you, send me a note off-line. Regards, -Rob On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Carmen Putrino carmenputr...@yahoo.com wrote: I can't get myself off this list. I want out! You are fucking driving me crazy!! Carmen Putrino 805.807.4269 carmenputr...@yahoo.com On Jan 7, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Think thinkta...@gmail.com wrote: Mr. Weir, You lost the ability to moderate my behavior on this list when you went after me for stating law and policy, saying I was threatening someone when I was not. You cannot threaten someone with the law. The law is. The consequences exist for illegal activity and that which violates the user's ISP policy. You have chilled free speech on this list. The moderators, collectively, have allowed this list to get so out of hand, I am amazed that any questions get answered. Instead of learning the program, I am spending time trying to get you to do your jobs and ensure this is a safe place for people to post questions that may sound stupid, as people learn the program. Please furnish me with the name and email address of the people who choose moderators on this list. Also, while there is no right to post on this list, there is a set of assumptions based on this product being an open source project that is freely available. Hence your statement about posting on this list being a privilege is both specious and misleading. Likely you meant it that way. It is wholly disingenuous to support an open source/free product and then say that everyone on this list doesn’t have the right to be here. It is not in keeping with the apache or open source projects. When a moderator so greatly misspeaks, it is no wonder that the users on this list are at each other's throats. Brenda Hart Neihouse -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 8:53 PM Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Reminder: List Conduct Guidelines Andrea suggested that we post a link to this in the footer of each message. That is something we can do, but for now I'd like to remind us all of it: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html Remember, no one has a right to post on this list. It is a privilege. To the extent any person's or persons' conduct becomes disruptive of the purpose of this list (supporting users of Apache OpenOffice) this privilege can be revoked. This is an administrative note. It does not require a response. Regards, -Rob Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee Mailing List Moderator - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reading and Exporting spreadsheets--another commentary
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Anthony J. Rudgers anthonyrudg...@att.net wrote: Greetings All, Here's (imho) another example of the symptoms of the coding flaws inherent in the present OOo software suite. You do something according to one set of seemingly-valid protocols get one result (or, perhaps, non-result), then you do it according to another set of also-valid protocols, get an entirely different result (or non-result). This, at least to me, would indicate that there are instances of differing, , consequently, inconsistent, coding within OOo. I've experienced a similar inconsistency in OOo code in another area. I submit this query. Do proponents of OOo software, want to deal w/ correct such problems, deny they exist, ignore them move on (as embodied in the posting: I'm tired of this thread, can't we talk about something else?), throw up their hands say that such inherent problems are just a fact of life--so live w/ them, or, simply, verbally abuse belittle the OOo users who point them out to this community? So I take it that you have completely diagnosed the problem and determined that it is a bug in OpenOffice and not a configuration issue in Cygwin. Wow, that was fast! Maybe now that you've troubleshooted and debugged the issue you would be so kind as to submit a patch to fix it? Or write up a report in Bugzilla detailing how you reproduced the problem and showed that it was an OpenOffice issue? Regards, -Rob Best wishes, Anthony J. Rudgers Orlando, FL U.S.A. -Original Message- From: Arthur Schwarz Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 6:48 PM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Reading and Exporting spreadsheets Win7 cygwin I created and saved a spreadsheet, 'ods' ,document. When I try to read it using my cygwin alias alias ods='/ProgramFiles86/OpenOffice\ 4/program/scalc.exe' it (basically) says what's that but when I use open office directly and use Recent Documents it seems to have no problem. is my alias correct? I use a similar alias for the writer (alias odt='/ProgramFiles86/OpenOffice\ 4/program/swriter.exe') and it works fine. Now comes the real puzzler (for me), when I export the spreadseet as a pdf file, the cygwin shell doesn't recognize it. That is, 'find', 'ls' don't recognize the file. It comes up with no such directory or file. But when I go to the Windows explorer or import the file using Adobe, no problem. The filename is there bold as lightning. and I have no issue. On the other hand, using cygwin, I can't input the file to adobe. Now for the confounding aspect. Everything works as expected in the writer. I can create a pdf file, see it in cygwin, open and use it in adobe, list it, and I guess do everything needful. But not when I create a spreadsheet. Wait, wait. I have (yet) another mystery. When I open a new shell (but do not reboot), the new shell shows the created pdf file but now the ods file is missing. And, contrary to everything above, I can load the pdf file to adobe in the cygwin shell the exact opposite of above. Right now it's an irritation but is there something that I've done wrong or someway to fix the problem so that it shows up in by cygwin shell? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Reminder on list policy
Speaking as a list moderator (yes we do have them) I'd like to remind all posters that threats will not be tolerated on this list. Regards, Rob If you want to flame me, you might want to think again. Most of your ISP's have a policy of no spam/hate/scam/flame. I have reported people to their ISP's before and I will do it again. There is a difference between free speech and hate speech. Hate speech is not protected under the Constitution and your ISP's won't tolerate it either.i - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reading and Exporting spreadsheets--another commentary
On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Arthur Schwarz aschwarz1...@att.net wrote: This is an embarrassment for me. I checked and checked and found out that I had copied the same directory in two places and had one shell in one folder and another in another. And so, being the Great And Wonderful (smart and clever also) person that I am, I exported my pdf file into one folder and looked for it in another. At least that's my current story and I'm sticking with it (until tomorrow). Doh! I'm glad, though, it worked out. One less bug to fix. Regards, Rob But in a soft way I do think your points are valid. I have had problems with the swriter software and lists. Then again, I contribute nothing to a volunteer effort. I am a passive beneficiary of excellent software that has a few bugs. I also have Microsoft software. In 2000 I tried to report a bug (very hard when dealing with Microsoft). In 2008(?) software, the bug is still there (in lists, by the way). I expect that in 2050 software the bug will still remain in Microsoft but in Open Office the bugs I see today will probably be gone. And so, although OOo is not perfect, they are better than Microsoft dreams of in their better days, and the OOo team seems to want to better the product. art -Original Message- From: Anthony J. Rudgers [mailto:anthonyrudg...@att.net] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:07 PM To: Arthur Schwarz; users@openoffice.apache.org Cc: Anthony Rudgers Subject: Re: Reading and Exporting spreadsheets--another commentary Greetings All, Here's (imho) another example of the symptoms of the coding flaws inherent in the present OOo software suite. You do something according to one set of seemingly-valid protocols get one result (or, perhaps, non-result), then you do it according to another set of also-valid protocols, get an entirely different result (or non-result). This, at least to me, would indicate that there are instances of differing, , consequently, inconsistent, coding within OOo. I've experienced a similar inconsistency in OOo code in another area. I submit this query. Do proponents of OOo software, want to deal w/ correct such problems, deny they exist, ignore them move on (as embodied in the posting: I'm tired of this thread, can't we talk about something else?), throw up their hands say that such inherent problems are just a fact of life--so live w/ them, or, simply, verbally abuse belittle the OOo users who point them out to this community? Best wishes, Anthony J. Rudgers Orlando, FL U.S.A. -Original Message- From: Arthur Schwarz Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 6:48 PM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Reading and Exporting spreadsheets Win7 cygwin I created and saved a spreadsheet, 'ods' ,document. When I try to read it using my cygwin alias alias ods='/ProgramFiles86/OpenOffice\ 4/program/scalc.exe' it (basically) says what's that but when I use open office directly and use Recent Documents it seems to have no problem. is my alias correct? I use a similar alias for the writer (alias odt='/ProgramFiles86/OpenOffice\ 4/program/swriter.exe') and it works fine. Now comes the real puzzler (for me), when I export the spreadseet as a pdf file, the cygwin shell doesn't recognize it. That is, 'find', 'ls' don't recognize the file. It comes up with no such directory or file. But when I go to the Windows explorer or import the file using Adobe, no problem. The filename is there bold as lightning. and I have no issue. On the other hand, using cygwin, I can't input the file to adobe. Now for the confounding aspect. Everything works as expected in the writer. I can create a pdf file, see it in cygwin, open and use it in adobe, list it, and I guess do everything needful. But not when I create a spreadsheet. Wait, wait. I have (yet) another mystery. When I open a new shell (but do not reboot), the new shell shows the created pdf file but now the ods file is missing. And, contrary to everything above, I can load the pdf file to adobe in the cygwin shell the exact opposite of above. Right now it's an irritation but is there something that I've done wrong or someway to fix the problem so that it shows up in by cygwin shell? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: All essay text turned to hashtags
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Sadly, quite nothing to do, see: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=17677 where you'll see that I've recorded more than 150 occurrences of this problem. And there were 368 reported UFO sightings in December: http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/ndxe201312.html But I'm not rushing to learn Klingon... If you search Google for phrases like Word document lost when saving you'll see 100's of reports of this as well. I've raised this issue on the dev mailing list: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg15177.html and interest has been slightly raised (new comments in the bug report) but this is a difficult problem that can't be reproduced, hence very difficult to spot. Nevertheless, even in case of bug, the save process could be improved IMHO. Any power shortage? Check the temporary folder of the system (see in OOo ToolsOptionsOOoPaths). If there are folders like sgmlf.tmp with a file having the same name inside, make a copy of that file, rename it to .odt and cross your fingers. If you have not rebooted, you might have those files still there. It would be great to ask for information like this whenever someone reports this kind of problem. 150 reports without this detail are useless. But even 10 reports with this detail might indicate a pattern. 1) What AOO version is in use? 2) What OS version? 3) What file type (extension) was being saved? 4) Where was the file being saved? USB? Network drive? 5) Is autosaved enabled? 6) When you returned to your computer was it in the same state? For example, had you lost power? Did the OS force a reboot? Did your laptop hibernate? Just anecdotally, and without deeper analysis, I see a number of reports on OpenOffice and with Microsoft Office, where a USB memory stick is being used. Savvy users know how to properly remove a memory stick. But not all users do. This can cause problems. Another case to watch out for is old Wordperfect files. A user saves a WPD file, upgrades OOo 3.3.0 to AOO 4.0.1 and now their file won't open. But this is due to the loss of WPD support, not due to damage to the file, though the symptoms look the same at first. Another thing to look for is a forced reboot, the kind that recent versions of Windows do when installing a critical security patch. Some antivirus software does this as well. If you have a document loaded in OpenOffice with unsaved changed, and have autosave enabled, and leave your machine on for a week, with OpenOffice running, and a system restart is forced, what will happen? Is there a correlation to problems in that scenario? Regards, -Rob As a courtesy I have sent a copy of this reply to you as well as to the mailing list. Do Not reply to me personally but just to the list at users@openoffice.apache.org - replies to my personal email address will be ignored. Since you are not subscribed to this list you may not see all the replies to your query. To subscribe Apache OpenOffice mailing lists go to http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html NB: this is more a message for the users mailing list than for the devs. For user support you can also use The OpenOffice.org Community Forum https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ Regards, Hagar Le 04/01/2014 14:04, natalie guttridge a écrit : Please help My daughter has written a 2000 word essay. She saved it and then when she opened it again the whole text has turned into hashtags...can anything be done? Regards Natalie Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: All essay text turned to hashtags
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 05/01/2014 17:05, Rob Weir a écrit : It would be great to ask for information like this whenever someone reports this kind of problem. 150 reports without this detail are useless. But even 10 reports with this detail might indicate a pattern. 1) What AOO version is in use? 2) What OS version? 3) What file type (extension) was being saved? 4) Where was the file being saved? USB? Network drive? 5) Is autosaved enabled? 6) When you returned to your computer was it in the same state? For example, had you lost power? Did the OS force a reboot? Did your laptop hibernate? Have you at least read the topic and the post with all the cases I've recorded??? You'll see that most of these information are available. And each linked topic usually have also these information (with more details of course). - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=17677#p81363 Well, obviously reports with partial information from 5 years ago are not really useful. As I pointed out, I can show over 300 UFO sightings from just December. So what? I'm suggesting collecting this information systematically, for new reports, in 2014 using AOO 4.0.1. For example, you did not ask all of these questions when you responded to the user on this list just now. Just anecdotally, and without deeper analysis, I see a number of reports on OpenOffice and with Microsoft Office, where a USB memory stick is being used. Savvy users know how to properly remove a memory stick. But not all users do. This can cause problems. None of the 150+ cases I've recorded involve USB drives. Of course we know that case. That's why I've discarded them systematically. NB: one more case this very day. This isn't really true. I did a spot check of the reports and some of them did involve USB drives and for many of them the question was not even asked. Another case to watch out for is old Wordperfect files. A user saves a WPD file, upgrades OOo 3.3.0 to AOO 4.0.1 and now their file won't open. But this is due to the loss of WPD support, not due to damage to the file, though the symptoms look the same at first. Again, just read the topic. Most of the files are ODF, some .doc. No exotic format like WPD. Another thing to look for is a forced reboot, the kind that recent versions of Windows do when installing a critical security patch. Some antivirus software does this as well. If you have a document loaded in OpenOffice with unsaved changed, and have autosave enabled, and leave your machine on for a week, with OpenOffice running, and a system restart is forced, what will happen? Is there a correlation to problems in that scenario? And? Even if the boot is forced, as I said, it would be understandable to lose the version that is currently under edition. But it is unacceptable to lose the saved file. And it would be unacceptable to see a UFO. The question is whether any actually have or whether it is user error. I know that this is a difficult problem but please stop trying to find a scapegoat. If nobody wants to investigate, I don't have any problem as long as I don't suffer from this issue. But then, just accept the rants from users who lost important data. NB: I've switched from MS Word to OOo after I lost data. If I ever face this problem, that would be the end of my use of AOO. Users want reliability first. All the nice features you can put in an application will never counterbalance any important data loss. No one is scapegoating. I'm just saying with 100 million users and 5 years and not a single reproducible error? Really? Seriously? -Rob Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
OpenOffice Website Survey
We're conducting a short survey about the OpenOffice website. If you have a moment you can find the survey here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/522696/lang-en Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Informal Mac OS / OpenOffice Survey
An informal survey to help our project planning: If you run OpenOffice on the Mac, what version of Mac OS are you running today? 10.4 (Tiger) 10.5 (Leopard) 10.6 (Snow Leopard) 10.7 (Lion) 10.8 (Mountain Lion) 10.9 (Mavericks) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Call for Comments: Apache OpenOffice Distributor Best Practices
Details are here: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_comments_apache_openoffice Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Good progress on confusing advertisements on download page
Please take a look at this new blog post from SourceForge: http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-blockthis-initiative-update/ It looks like they are taking the ad issue seriously. They have culled 20%+ of the ads and instituted a process for communities to report new misleading ads. I think this will lead to a better experience for our users. Thanks to SourceForge (and Roberto) for listening to their users and responding to feedback! A question for us is: How do we want to report misleading ads in the future? Do we need any process on our side? Do we want to track the reports in Bugzilla? Or do we want to just report these as individuals, possibly leading to redundant reports? Maybe record these in BZ (where adding image attachments and de-duping is easy) and then report to SF with a link to the BZ issue? Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Apache OpenOffice 4.1 to Bring Enhanced Accessibility Support
Our latest blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_4_1_to This accessibility code has now been integrated into the trunk. This is a great step forward. If you refresh yourself on our posted Public Service Mission, you see that accessibility is a key priority for us: http://openoffice.apache.org/mission.html This code came from IBM's contribution of Lotus Symphony, but much effort was required to integrate it into OpenOffice. Our thanks go to Steve Yin for the development work and to V Stuart Foote, James Teh, Jean-Philippe Mengual and Liu Ping for their expertise on testing. (And profuse apologies if I missed anyone) Regards. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
AOO 4.0.1 and MacOS Mavericks?
I'm starting to see questions on whether AOO is compatible with the newly released Mavericks. Has anyone tried it yet? Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Kannada script
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:13 PM, paul hockings visualant...@yahoo.com wrote: The kannada script provided by OpenOffice is useless, because so many of the characters are missing (while two are duplicated). Basically all the syllables beginning in v- plus nearly all those ending in -i or -í are not on the keyboard viewer. Hi Paul, Could you enter an issue into our Bugzilla for this? http://issues.apache.org/ooo/ It would help to include details like: 1) What version of OpenOffice you are using 2) What platform you are running on 3) What font you are using 4) Attach screen shot showing what you are seeing 5) Attach a sample document if you think it will help Thanks! -Rob Paul Hockings - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
New Serbian (Latin script) website live
A quick announcement that we now have a freshly translated website for Serbian with Latin script (sr-latn) due to the efforts of Vladislav Stevanovic Wlada. You can find it here: http://www.openoffice.org/sr-latn/ Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Graph numbers in stats pages need thousands separator
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: While looking at the graph in http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html it was very difficult for me (besides small screen and poor eyesight) to see if the numbers were 6 million 60 million or 600 million, because of the tiny text and lots of zeros without separators for thousands and hundred thousands. We're using a 3rd party library for the charts. I don't see the ability to control the number format, other than to enable or disable rounding to the nearest integer. But maybe someone else sees more here: http://www.simile-widgets.org/timeplot/ ie 60,000,000 reads beter than 6000 I agree. Maybe another solution is to rescale the data, so we report in units of a million downloads. So instead of 6000 we have 60.0? -Rob FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 released
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Rob Weir: The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of OpenOffice 4.0.1 You can download it from our website. No FODT support -- Recycle Bin. We rate our successful by the many millions of users who are successful with OpenOffice. If something else suits your particular needs then use it, by all means, and move on. There is no need to stalk us like a jealous old girlfriend. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
New Turkish website live
A quick announcement that we now have a freshly translated website for Turkish, due to the efforts of Burak Yavuz. You can find it here: http://www.openoffice.org/tr/ Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[ANN] Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 released
The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of OpenOffice 4.0.1 You can download it from our website [1]. The 4.0.1 update includes many bug fixes as well as new translations: Basque, Khmer, Lithuanian, Polish, Serbian Cyrillic, Swedish, Traditional Chinese, Turkish and Vietnamese. Details of new features and enhancements in this release are described in the Release Notes [2]. Those interested in the source code can download it via the links on this page [3]. Regards, Rob Weir, Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/ [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0.1+Release+Notes [3] https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO can't open .xlsx spreadsheet at Cornell site
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Dick Hoffman old...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I downloaded a fairly large spreadsheet from this location http://www.birds.cornell.edu/clementschecklist/download/ but when I try to open it with AOO the progress line shows about a quarter of it being loaded and then AOO stalls and I have to use the Task Manager to cancel soffice. This is using AOO 4.0 on a Windows XP Pro/SP3 system. Any suggestions as to what might be wrong will be appreciated. Dick Hoffman Hi Dick, I can confirm the problem you report with AOO 4.0.0. But I then tried with AOO 4.0.1, a newer version which should be officially released soon. It was able to load that XLSX file. It was slow, but it did fully open. When I saved it as an ODS file, OpenOffice's native format, subsequent opens were much faster. I can send you the ODS version if you want. Or you can try again with AOO 4.0.1 once that releases. Regards, -Rob @Rob -- what OS are you using, given Julian's comment on this as well. Windows 7, 32-bit. I tried 4.0.1., Linux-32, and well basically gave up at the (about) 25% load status. For me it stopped there as well. I took a phone call, and when I checked again the document was open. Check your CPU and see if it is still showing the soffice process as active. -Rob I will try again. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't. -- Following the Equator, Mark Twain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO can't open .xlsx spreadsheet at Cornell site
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Dick Hoffman old...@ix.netcom.com wrote: I downloaded a fairly large spreadsheet from this location http://www.birds.cornell.edu/clementschecklist/download/ but when I try to open it with AOO the progress line shows about a quarter of it being loaded and then AOO stalls and I have to use the Task Manager to cancel soffice. This is using AOO 4.0 on a Windows XP Pro/SP3 system. Any suggestions as to what might be wrong will be appreciated. Dick Hoffman Hi Dick, I can confirm the problem you report with AOO 4.0.0. But I then tried with AOO 4.0.1, a newer version which should be officially released soon. It was able to load that XLSX file. It was slow, but it did fully open. When I saved it as an ODS file, OpenOffice's native format, subsequent opens were much faster. I can send you the ODS version if you want. Or you can try again with AOO 4.0.1 once that releases. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
2013 InfoWorld Bossie (Best of Open Source) Awards
We picked up an award in the desktop and mobile software category: http://www.infoworld.com/slideshow/119867/bossie-awards-2013-the-best-open-source-desktop-and-mobile-software-226979#slide8 Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Windows 8
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:37 AM, iain watson iain_wats...@hotmail.com wrote: Will all versions of OpenOffice run under Windows 8? We haven't tested all versions of OpenOffice on Windows 8, but versions 3.4.1 and 4.0 appear to run fine on Windows 8. -Rob Many thanks for your replies. Iain Watson Sent By iAINPAD - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: MSFT FUD
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:59 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: https://twitter.com/whymicrosoft/status/352474084262678528 6 things you should consider before you rely on http://OpenOffice.org : http://ow.ly/mBdvR Companies tend to do this when they feel threatened. -Rob Ballmer might be on the way out, but their bad habits continue... FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: KEYS
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Allen Tabbert atabb...@goldengate.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I wanted to verify the Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz.asc against my download. I downloaded the KEYS using: wget http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/KEYS Then I imported the keys. But when I ran gpg --verify it said: $ gpg --verify Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz.asc gpg: Signature made Tue 16 Jul 2013 05:39:05 PM CDT using RSA key ID B8E50356 gpg: Can't check signature: No public key The Key ID B8E50356 is not in the set I downloaded from your KEYS file. Why is it not in there?? Hi Ariel, is B8E50356 your key? -Rob Allen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSGABoAAoJEK3AFbtYOknnVI0IALxbJlIW58Ll3R8aryWQXX4k GJ1+Gh5cWFDYvFq9Cetz86vnxDuCaiVMxEOwnRc+PtBQHWHpzRuSKTG16fOs/5JD SGykhVkgdkRodpiuQKE8n/kV8+/aEaa+9WpxVdn+eqhTsi3nc570JQbOaw0sCOrY Nrdwm5Urm7w6wcP240g5UD4pjfXqAieEEe/0FdJQepikt7VFlRjsvRYVekSDHkUL t5XgL3LQAaTt47vMM9EyPMxK2RfIG2dXUQ54phtgFs9CUt2yqVF4s8mA2Ha+moPu rc2mS4vrKeswCO6ywyfDtaQnbaZrLxPG0y9Ql0hcUv5CEHE0eRxnJgkkTYzVUaI= =0QtH -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Is anyone using Apple Pages?
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Julian Thomas j...@jt-mj.net wrote: On 21Aug 2013, at 3:33 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: If possible I'd like to get two test files saved from Pages: 1) An Empty document 2) A document that has a simple string, like hello world Both saved in DOC format. I am running on a Mac and have Pages - also OO 4 Apache. If there is anything that others have not yet provided, pse holler. I think we're set for now with Pages. But if anyone can do the same for XLS and PPT files exported from iWork applications as well, that would be great. It looks like Oliver has a patch for the issue in Pages. But it would be good to test to see if there is a similar issue with the other formats. Regards, -Rob -- j...@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.net Is fire supposed to shoot out of that thing? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Please Enroll Me in Your Users' Database and Your Mailing List
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Re: OpenOffice Download Page
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Steele, Raymond raymond.ste...@lmco.com wrote: I download page does not seem to be displaying the correct information. I am looking to download the latest version 4.0 source. Can someone point me in the right direction. I am looking for the tarball. http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#source From that URL, do you see the row labeled Source tarballs? That's what you want. It is available in three different archive/compression formats. But remember, that is not the latest code. That is the code from 4.0. The most recent code is what you get out of the trunk in Subversion. Information on retrieving that is here: http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html Regardsm -Rob Raymond - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: OpenOffice Download Page
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/07/2013 08:43 PM, schrieb Steele, Raymond: Rob, Thanks for the response. I am looking for the 4.0 code. I clicked the link, but it is not going anywhere. Does it work for you? Yes, for me all 3 links are working, also the links for the signature and hash files. Works fine for me as well, Firefox on Windows 7. -Rob Do you get any error message or at least see any hint that could bring us forward? As alternative, what is happening when you use the Apache server? http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source/ Thanks Marcus -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:51 AM To: d...@openoffice.apache.org; Steele, Raymond Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: OpenOffice Download Page On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Steele, Raymondraymond.ste...@lmco.com wrote: I download page does not seem to be displaying the correct information. I am looking to download the latest version 4.0 source. Can someone point me in the right direction. I am looking for the tarball. http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#source From that URL, do you see the row labeled Source tarballs? That's what you want. It is available in three different archive/compression formats. But remember, that is not the latest code. That is the code from 4.0. The most recent code is what you get out of the trunk in Subversion. Information on retrieving that is here: http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html Regardsm -Rob Raymond - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: Rob Weir: In what way do you think this is true? Bugs/features affecting Windows integration or performance are overlooked, sometimes for 2–3 years. Compatibility and interaction with Windows-only software is ridiculed. There are old bugs on all platforms. And there are platform bigots on all platforms. None of that is going to change. But I don't see any evidence that the needs of Windows users are prioritized less than Mac OS or Linux users. Those ones affecting Linux get more attention. It gives a clear message that developers give no crap about users and are concerned only with their corporations' interests. What corporations do you think are more concerned with Linux than Windows? My pet peeve is the terrible work with dictionaries in Windows version which makes me use a Linux VM just to proofread documents. Spell checking on Windows works fine as far as I can tell. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: And yet the *OO developers treat Windows users as a second-class citizens. In what way do you think this is true? -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week
We released AOO 4.0 on July 23nd, mid-day UTC. We only have summary data for full days, so the following is really for 6.5 days of AOO 4.0, through July 29th. 1,257,653 total downloads (full installs, not including langpacks). In comparison, the 1st 7 days of AOO 3.4.0 saw around 750K downloads, and the 1st week of AOO 3.4.1 saw 1.1M downloads. So we're seeing some nice growth. In graphical form you can see it here: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html Drilling down a little we see that the downloads were: 85% Windows 13% Mac 2% Linux Of the Linux downloads, 57% were 32-bit, 43% were 64-bit. 49% took the DEB packages, 51% the RPM. The top 10 downloads by language were: en_US 497,089 de 170,089 fr 148,619 it 88,931 ja 76,421 es 68,051 ru 52,756 en_GB 49,560 nl 20,649 pt_BR 18,341 Note also: We're about it hit the 60 million mark for total AOO downloads (all versions) probably by tomorrow. The count stands at 59,739,479 yesterday. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 is now available
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Dale Erwin d...@casaerwin.org wrote: I have deliberately delayed installing version 4.0 because I wanted to test the notification process. It has been stated that AOO checks once a week for available new versions. This notice was dated 7/23 at 4: 29 AM. In just a few hours, a week will have passed and I have not seen any notice from my 3.4.1 installation that a new version is available. That's a good test to try. Thanks. If you don't get a notification, let me know what version of 3.4.1 you have installed (language and platform) and I can check as well. -Rob Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org On 7/23/2013 4:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote: The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of OpenOffice 4.0. You can download it from our website [1]. Details of new features and enhancements in this release are described in the Release Notes [2]. Those interested in the source code can download this via the links on this page [3]. Regards, Rob Weir, Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee [1]http://www.openoffice.org/download/ [2]http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes [3]https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail:users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 is now available
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Dale Erwin d...@casaerwin.org wrote: BTW, did I read that is necessary to uninstall 3.4 before installing 4.0? it is not necessary to uninstall 3.3.0, 3.4.0 or 3.4.1. As far as the update notifications go, I have seen over 100K downloads in the past week from in-product update checks. These use a special URL so we can identify them. So mechanism appears to be working for most people. The developer who worked on that area is on vacation, but I'll point him to this thread when he gets back. -Rob Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org On 7/30/2013 6:18 PM, Dale Erwin wrote: Ciao Andrea, At Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org - Online Update I find that Check for updates automatically is selected as is Every Week and it also reports Last checked: 07/29/13, 05:08:00PM which was several hours before I sent that email. This must be the default, because I have never seen this page before. However, if I manually click on the Check Now button, it does find that 4.0.0 is available, but I did not download it yet. Wonder why I never received the notice. I have now enabled Download updates automatically and I will not manually download 4.0 for a while longer just to see if this works. I'm also going to change it to check Every Day for a while so that I don't have to wait another week. Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org On 7/30/2013 2:12 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Dale Erwin wrote: I have deliberately delayed installing version 4.0 because I wanted to test the notification process. It has been stated that AOO checks once a week for available new versions. This depends on your configuration. You may have update checks turned off or set to a different period. Tools - Options - OpenOffice[.org] - Online Updates. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:03 AM, MIKE LISH emell...@gmail.com wrote: All of this seems rather convoluted and complicated. Why can't AOO be made to recognize Google, as it has been made to recognize its compatibility with Microsoft .doc etc. etc. instead of pushing blame in Google's direction. I find it difficult to accept there is no work around to this problem. C'mon! AOO is great in most other ways, and it seems ridiculous for it not to recognize Google email! ! Simple: there is an industry standard for accessing email: MAPI (Messaging Application Programming Interface). OpenOffice works with any application that supports MAPI. Most email clients support MAPI. GMail does not. That is their choice. We can't force them to support MAPI. But we're not writing custom support for every email client in existence. We support the standard. A quick search shows there are products out there that claim to add MAPI support to GMail. I haven't tried any of them to see how they work with OpenOffice, but this one sounds interesting: http://www.mapi4gmail.com/ Regards, -Rob Mike Lish On 23 July 2013 19:03, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: That's not the issue. Apache OpenOffice does not discriminate on that basis. What is the issue is that Apache OpenOffice uses the on-desktop protocol for requesting the opening of an e-mail with a given attachment. This will usually be whatever is recognized as the default e-mail application on the desktop. Google does not provide any kind of desktop presence by which this can be handled. However, it is possible to access Google Mail by standard desktop e-mail applications, instead of using a browser. *That* software can then be reached by Apache OpenOffice so long as it is capable of being registered as the default e-mail application. The Microsoft Outlook desktop application will do this -- connect to Google Mail and integrate with Apache OpenOffice. Depending on operating system, the Windows Live Mail application will also connect to Google Mail and also be triggered by Apache OpenOffice. The same should apply for Outlook Express if someone still uses an operating system that has that desktop application. There are some differences in how this works with Windows 8. There is some other thread or perhaps bugzilla issue where that has been discussed. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Urmas [mailto:davian...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 05:08 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying problem. It does not!! I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize Google email is stone age stuff ! Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from 3rd party company? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:34 AM, MIKE LISH emell...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't expect you to write in custom support for every email client in existence, but I would expect an exception to be made for the biggest and perhaps the top three. What would it take to do! If perhaps %95 percent of email traffic is represented by the top three clients why exclude the biggest of them, in spite of their preference not to support MAPI. It doesn't make any sense! Maybe you missed the part where I pointed out that 3rd parties have already written adapters to bring MAPI support to GMail. That's the way to go. If you use an adapter then all of your desktop applications that support MAPI will be able to work with GMail as well. -Rob Regards, Mike On 24 July 2013 12:31, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:03 AM, MIKE LISH emell...@gmail.com wrote: All of this seems rather convoluted and complicated. Why can't AOO be made to recognize Google, as it has been made to recognize its compatibility with Microsoft .doc etc. etc. instead of pushing blame in Google's direction. I find it difficult to accept there is no work around to this problem. C'mon! AOO is great in most other ways, and it seems ridiculous for it not to recognize Google email! ! Simple: there is an industry standard for accessing email: MAPI (Messaging Application Programming Interface). OpenOffice works with any application that supports MAPI. Most email clients support MAPI. GMail does not. That is their choice. We can't force them to support MAPI. But we're not writing custom support for every email client in existence. We support the standard. A quick search shows there are products out there that claim to add MAPI support to GMail. I haven't tried any of them to see how they work with OpenOffice, but this one sounds interesting: http://www.mapi4gmail.com/ Regards, -Rob Mike Lish On 23 July 2013 19:03, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: That's not the issue. Apache OpenOffice does not discriminate on that basis. What is the issue is that Apache OpenOffice uses the on-desktop protocol for requesting the opening of an e-mail with a given attachment. This will usually be whatever is recognized as the default e-mail application on the desktop. Google does not provide any kind of desktop presence by which this can be handled. However, it is possible to access Google Mail by standard desktop e-mail applications, instead of using a browser. *That* software can then be reached by Apache OpenOffice so long as it is capable of being registered as the default e-mail application. The Microsoft Outlook desktop application will do this -- connect to Google Mail and integrate with Apache OpenOffice. Depending on operating system, the Windows Live Mail application will also connect to Google Mail and also be triggered by Apache OpenOffice. The same should apply for Outlook Express if someone still uses an operating system that has that desktop application. There are some differences in how this works with Windows 8. There is some other thread or perhaps bugzilla issue where that has been discussed. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Urmas [mailto:davian...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 05:08 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying problem. It does not!! I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize Google email is stone age stuff ! Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from 3rd party company? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Apache OpenOffice 4.0 is now available
The Apache OpenOffice project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of OpenOffice 4.0. You can download it from our website [1]. Details of new features and enhancements in this release are described in the Release Notes [2]. Those interested in the source code can download this via the links on this page [3]. Regards, Rob Weir, Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee [1] http://www.openoffice.org/download/ [2] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes [3] https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Screenshots on website???
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:05 AM, kalle hauser bugfind...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi all, Im reading the comments of users in some german forums about AOO 4 at the moment. One user aked for screenshots, becuase he couldnt find any on the official website. The Release Notes for 4.0 are filled with screenshots, dozens of them: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes I think it would be a good idea to put some scrennshots from writer, clac impress on the site I want to learn more about OpenOffice On the main website you get screenshots on the product pages here: http://www.openoffice.org/product/index.html But those need to be updated. -Rib greetings, K. hauser - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: FUD right after download
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: Oh sweet irony, right after downloading AOO 4.0, and before one even gets a chance to install it, you get the same FUD review from a LO zealot as part of the SF.Net redirect to the reviews section... http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1351/3ni.png (those are SourceForge.net's user-submitted reviews, which shows the highest scoring review vs the lowest scoring one). Strangely, it doesn't matter if you select most helpful or sorted by date afterwards from the drop down at the bottom of that page, the displayed reviews do not change, it's always the same 5-star, one-line review that says a great alternative vs the 1-star review full of AOO FUD from someone who says use LO instead. I feel tempted to write a one-star review that reads I'm a LibreOffice troll and I hate to see AOO 4.0 released! and see if it gets displayed :-P. Or even better, write a real good review, praising AOO, but give it only 1-star. We'll benefit more from the good review than we will be hurt by a single-star review. -Rob FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Conflicts?
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Can't say for sure on Windows (but I don't think there would be any problem). We didn't do extensive testing with AOO/LO co-install on Windows, but we did do some basic testing. This was with AOO 4.0 and LO 4.0. Testing was basically installing LO, then installing AOO and verifying that both operating and that they didn't clobber each other's settings. I didn't notice any problems. -Rob Under GNU/Linux, you need to install them with the official packages from their respective website. Using the version delivered by your distro may lead to dependency problems. Hagar Le 23/07/2013 21:38, Virgil Arrington a écrit : Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO-Members dont forget voting
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: On Friday July, 19, 2013, Rob Weir wrote: We've discussed AOO 4.0 many times, on the blog and in social media, and this has been covered in the press. Yes, we don't issue a press release every week or every time we change code indentation, like some other projects seem to do. But we do take care of major announcements. I think the pace of development is one reason for the better quality. I'd like to release more often as well, but I don't want to compromise on quality. But I think there is room for improvement here. And we are discussing having a public beta for AOO 4.1. I have complained on the LO user's list of its pace of releasing new versions. There are several to choose from at its download page, and the latest often contains bugs that had been fixed in earlier releases. It can be quite frustrating to download an update only to find a bug that you had thought was fixed. But... The slow pace of development at Apache is equally frustrating. AOO 3.4.1 is a nice program ... except for the inability of the U.S. English version to properly hyphenate words (See bug 119087). This bug has been around for years preventing the use of AOO for serious work in America when hyphenation is required. I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that it will be corrected in Ver. 4, but it has been frustrating to wait for Apache to release a new version until it gets everything right. Perhaps some sort of interim release fixing known and critical bugs could be made. Surely there can be some compromise between LO's torrid release pace and AOO's seemingly non-existent pace. I think the compromise then is with quality. Think if it this way: any release has fixed and variable costs. The main fixed cost is testing. Any release, no matter how small, needs to be tested. And given the complexity of AOO (from a code and architecture viewpoint) this means a test of every area of the product. We have over a thousand test cases defined for AOO that we try to run on all major platforms before we release. This is a fixed chunk of work and it can take a couple of months. The variable costs, of course, are the development work that goes into adding features and fixing old bugs. Now, in theory, we could have a release every quarter, but that would mean we do only 1 month of feature work and 2 months of testing. That, I think, would be very inefficient. We could also drop our quality goals and do less testing. Or ship based on dates without any fixed test execution goals. That would allow us to release more frequently as well. I don't think either kind of compromise is what our users really want. IMHO, if we want to release more frequently then we need to find a way to accomplish the same quality goals, but in less time. So cut the 2 months of testing down to 1 months, or even less. This could be done, hypothetically, with more test automation and/or more test volunteers. Also, a public beta or bug finding contests is not a substitute for formal QA. These things tend to be highly redundant, shallow feature testing. But they can be a good way to get early feedback. Regards, -Rob Virgil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO-Members dont forget voting
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Scooter scoo...@scootersdesk.com wrote: Good Afternoon Rob Group, I whole heartily agree with your summation. I would much prefer the slower paced actual fixing and additions that worked, then the fastpace maybe it will work and see if the users find the problems the developers missed. I don't stay abreast of LO, since I'm not using LO. My opinion is that there seems to be less to writer then there used to be. the dictionary is now working. Hopefully, a better update can be established so the user doesn't have to figure out whether they have the latest or not. Possibly some way to notify of upcoming updates? In OpenOffice you should be able to do a Help/Check for Updates via the menu. Also, OpenOffice 3.4.1 checks for updates every week (by default) and notifies the user if there is an update available. -Rob I WAS happy with v3.3, but I'm not not a heavy user of AOO, because it isn't 100% compatible with Microsoft Office, especially in the spread sheet department. I need converted xls to work with my AutoCad software, which currently it will not. That's mostly the fault of AutoDesk, who doesn't keep up with new world of office software. I am not one to hang on to expensive Office software because of one program that requires its usage. I am happy that Open Office is alive and progressing at a solid pace of excellence. I'm also ecstatic that its mainline rather then in Incubation, that word gave me the shivers. Take Care. Scooter College Park, MD USA Rob Weir wrote on 7/20/2013 11:33 AM: On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: On Friday July, 19, 2013, Rob Weir wrote: We've discussed AOO 4.0 many times, on the blog and in social media, and this has been covered in the press. Yes, we don't issue a press release every week or every time we change code indentation, like some other projects seem to do. But we do take care of major announcements. I think the pace of development is one reason for the better quality. I'd like to release more often as well, but I don't want to compromise on quality. But I think there is room for improvement here. And we are discussing having a public beta for AOO 4.1. I have complained on the LO user's list of its pace of releasing new versions. There are several to choose from at its download page, and the latest often contains bugs that had been fixed in earlier releases. It can be quite frustrating to download an update only to find a bug that you had thought was fixed. But... The slow pace of development at Apache is equally frustrating. AOO 3.4.1 is a nice program ... except for the inability of the U.S. English version to properly hyphenate words (See bug 119087). This bug has been around for years preventing the use of AOO for serious work in America when hyphenation is required. I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that it will be corrected in Ver. 4, but it has been frustrating to wait for Apache to release a new version until it gets everything right. Perhaps some sort of interim release fixing known and critical bugs could be made. Surely there can be some compromise between LO's torrid release pace and AOO's seemingly non-existent pace. I think the compromise then is with quality. Think if it this way: any release has fixed and variable costs. The main fixed cost is testing. Any release, no matter how small, needs to be tested. And given the complexity of AOO (from a code and architecture viewpoint) this means a test of every area of the product. We have over a thousand test cases defined for AOO that we try to run on all major platforms before we release. This is a fixed chunk of work and it can take a couple of months. The variable costs, of course, are the development work that goes into adding features and fixing old bugs. Now, in theory, we could have a release every quarter, but that would mean we do only 1 month of feature work and 2 months of testing. That, I think, would be very inefficient. We could also drop our quality goals and do less testing. Or ship based on dates without any fixed test execution goals. That would allow us to release more frequently as well. I don't think either kind of compromise is what our users really want. IMHO, if we want to release more frequently then we need to find a way to accomplish the same quality goals, but in less time. So cut the 2 months of testing down to 1 months, or even less. This could be done, hypothetically, with more test automation and/or more test volunteers. Also, a public beta or bug finding contests is not a substitute for formal QA. These things tend to be highly redundant, shallow feature testing. But they can be a good way to get early feedback. Regards, -Rob Virgil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO-Members dont forget voting
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:49 AM, kalle hauser bugfind...@yahoo.de wrote: for the RC2 to be released as AOO 4.0 (or even not) on http://www.marshut.com/rrypt/release-openoffice-4-rc2.html ;-) My question to this: it seems, that not one IT-website in the internet knows about a RC of AOO 4. why you dont start a PR-campain for the new AOO 4 and make a public testing of the RC? Like SuperKK on the AOO blog says: You need to work on your PR. Why were there no public beta announcements? The LibreOffice propaganda machine has already convinced many people that OO is dead. Release early, release often. We've discussed AOO 4.0 many times, on the blog and in social media, and this has been covered in the press. Yes, we don't issue a press release every week or every time we change code indentation, like some other projects seem to do. But we do take care of major announcements. For example, the AOO 4.0 press release already went out. You might not have seen it, but that's the point. Press releases are for the press, so they can write their stories. They want the scoop. We're doing press interviews for AOO 4.0 as well. Remember, if it is on our website then it is not news anymore. So we should not confuse noise with impact. There is an open source echo-chamber, and saying the same tired FUD within that small circle of authors will not convince or convert a single user to move toward or away from OpenOffice. Or at least it will have very little impact compared to the effort. We need to find a way to reach out, beyond the usual suspects and get the news to a new audience. Remember, the growth for AOO is not from those within the open source community. The growth is from those who have never heard of open source. After finishing work on the major-release AOO4, i hope you bring out bugfix-releases more often than all 6 - 8 month. i my opinion bugfixreleases all 3-4 month would be a good intervall... btw: i switched to LO 3.5/3.6, after the OOo-develpoment was on-ice/ incubating, but a comparisen of LO4.0 and AOO3.4.1 shows 1 important thing: You Apache-Guys need longer to bring an new release and implement new features, but the quality of your product seems to be higher I think the pace of development is one reason for the better quality. I'd like to release more often as well, but I don't want to compromise on quality. But I think there is room for improvement here. And we are discussing having a public beta for AOO 4.1. Regards, -Rob e.g LO announces improvments on Load/Save-speed over and over angain, but in the end, AOO 3.4.1 starts faster than LO 3.6. The improvments on the docx/xlsx/pptx-filters in LO are also not as good as yours. keep up the good work! regards K. Hauser - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: With Apache OpenOffice you get what you don't pay for
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 17/06/2013 Rob Weir wrote: Click the links on the Help Spread the Word section of this page, if you want to help: http://www.download.openoffice.org/download/ This link (in the blog post too) works, but it isn't our canonical download page. It works because http://www.download.openoffice.org and http://www.openoffice.org are the same site. Is there a reason for this, or should the blog post be updated to simply suggest http://www.openoffice.org/download/ (the same link we publish on the website)? Looks like an error. I'm surprised it resolved correctly. It is corrected now. Thanks, -Rob Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Opinions expressed in this communication reflect the author's individual personal view, not necessarily that of an amorphous collective. The above statements do not reflect an official position of any organization, corporation, religion (organized or disorganized) or national football association. The contents of said note are not guaranteed to have been spell checked, grammar checked or reviewed for metrical infelicities. The contents of this post may not be suitable for those whose native language is not logic. Caution should be exercised when operating heavy machinery when reading this note, or even when not reading it. Seriously, heavy machinery is dangerous. Be careful. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
With Apache OpenOffice you get what you don't pay for
We've noticed a scam recently where people were fooled into paying a 3rd party website to download OpenOffice. But OpenOffice is free to download from http://www.openoffice.org/. You know this, of course. Anyone who has visited the website know this. But many do not know this. Can you help us educate the public that OpenOffice is free for everyone? Click the links on the Help Spread the Word section of this page, if you want to help: http://www.download.openoffice.org/download/ More info in this blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/with_apache_openoffice_you_get Thanks! -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] ODF file formats vs Zip
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Looking into a document having images with WinZip, it appears that GIF and PNG files are not compressed and SVM files are (with great improvement). The content.xml files, which can be megabytes long, benefit greatly from compression (9:1 easily). Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 and older versions of OpenOffice.org will compress the Thumbnail PNG. Not sure why, but it is a small file so it shouldn't matter in terms of Save performance. If you really want to try a monster test case, try the spreadsheets from this old ZDNet article from 2005: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/ou/performance-analysis-of-openoffice-and-ms-office/120 They are in pre-ODF XML formats, but can easily be converted. Try it as DOC and as ODS. The files themselves look quite reasonable, due to the ZIP compression. But then try unzipping the file. You'll see the content.xml is much, much larger. The problem we have with large ODF spreadsheets is our cell-by-cell table markup is very verbose. We also lack a string-pool structure in the markup to deal with repeated strings, which are common in database-like uses of a spreadsheet. Regards, -Rob - Dennis PS: I don't know whether uncompressed results are also obtained by attempting compression and reverting to STORED when the compression is unsuccessful. Some software does that sort of thing. (I have a recollection that DEFLATE can also produce uncompressed sections on discovery of their uncompressability, but the result won't be the same size as the original. I don't know if the DEFLATE compression used will produce those.) -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 05:45 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org; Dennis Hamilton Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] ODF file formats vs Zip On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Regina is correct about the only two compressions. As far as I know, there is no way to control which compression is used. (If you save with Password, all files are always compressed.) Most of the time DEFLATE is used (although there are two files that are not usually compressed, apparently to make metadata mining simpler for non-encrypted packages). There is currently no way to control the compression in AOO. (The ODF specification simply stipulates the compression that must be used when compression is done, not whether compression is done for parts of unencrypted packages.) Does anyone know whether AOO is smart enough to not waste time trying to compress already compressed files, like PNG images? This could make a big difference in presentations. -Rob [ ... ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: CMS diff:
Committed. Thanks for the patch. In the future, could you put your full name or email address as a comment when you submit the patch? That way we can credit you properly in the logs. It also helps if we need to ask a follow-up question. Thanks! -Rob On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Piotr anonym...@apache.org wrote: Clone URL (Committers only): https://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/de%2Ftopnav.mdtext Piotr Index: trunk/content/de/topnav.mdtext === --- trunk/content/de/topnav.mdtext (revision 1490090) +++ trunk/content/de/topnav.mdtext (working copy) @@ -1,18 +1,18 @@ divid: topnava -- [Product][m0] +- [Produkte][m0] - [Download][m1] - [Support][m2] -- [Extend][m3] -- [Develop][m4] -- [Focus Areas][m5] -- [Native Language][m6] +- [Erweiterungen Vorlagen][m3] +- [Entwickler][m4] +- [Schwerpunkte][m5] +- [Muttersprachen][m6] -[m0]:/product/index.html Apache OpenOffice product description -[m1]:/download/index.html Download OpenOffice.org -[m2]:/support/index.html Find Support for OpenOffice.org -[m3]:/extensions/index.html Extensions and Templates for OpenOffice -[m4]:http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.htmlGet involved in Apache OpenOffice -[m5]:/projects/accepted.html Apache OpenOffice development focus areas -[m6]:/projects/native-lang.html Apache OpenOffice in your Native Language +[m0]:/product/index.html Apache OpenOffice Produkt Beschreibung +[m1]:/download/index.html OpenOffice.org - Herunterladen +[m2]:/support/index.html Finde Support für OpenOffice.org +[m3]:/extensions/index.html Erweiterungen and Vorlagen für OpenOffice +[m4]:http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.htmlEngagieren Sie sich in Apache OpenOffice +[m5]:/projects/accepted.html Apache OpenOffice Entwicklung Schwerpunkte +[m6]:/projects/native-lang.html Apache OpenOffice in Ihrer Muttersprache - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-de-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-de-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Results of the Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey
Thanks to all in the community who took time to offer feedback on our recent logo survey for Apache OpenOffice 4.0. Over 5000 users rated the 40 logo proposals and many offered detailed comments. We have a new blog post where you can see what the top logo proposals were, as well as meet the volunteer designers of the top logos and learn how they approached the design task: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/results_of_apache_openoffice_4 The designers are now refining their logos in preparation for a 2nd round of evaluation and discussion. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: EPUB from OpenOffice
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/10/2013 04:27 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2013 02:31:33 -0500 Tamblyne tambl...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/2/2013 4:01 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:49:13 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: *I see several extensions in the repository that offer EPub digital book conversion from OpenOffice: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/epubGenerator* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/Writer2ePub* * http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/odftoepub* Does anyone have experience with these, and a recommendation? Or is there some other tool that you would suggest for publishing to EPub? Thanks in advance for any insights. I've done very little by way of conversion to electronic formats; I found Calibre very satisfactory. It converts to many (all?) eformats directly from OpenOffice .odt files (from other formats also), and manages one's library on the ereader. Certainly worth investigation. I finally had a chance to try this, and while I love the other aspects of Calibre, the conversion to epub wasn't great as regards it's handling of the styles. So -- to convert do you need a document without any formatting? Thanks Tam I can't answer that in any detail; later this year I will have occasion to convert a book text to some form of epub and will have to read up the intricacies of Calibre's .odt conversion. I am aware that it can be fine tuned to pick up and convert many of the formattings in the .odt, but haven't looked into that in depth yet. Any form of format conversion usually entails decision making about the compromises involved; a text formatted for (say) a US Letter page may not adjust immediately to the reduced and dynamic page/textflow of an ereader. What I have found that works rather well is to use Calibre to convert ODT to ePUB. Then I use Sigil to clean up the underlying html files. I use these settings in Sigil's Preferences in the Clean Source section: HTML Tiddy, Open, Save, and Replace all files. Hi Dan, Does that workflow you describe preserve the Table of Contents from the document, so it becomes a proper TOC in EPUB, not list a list of hyperlinks? -Rob We had a post that mentioned Tiddy in a web article in which the author mentioned that using his method to clean up the code while converting OTD to ePUB. The only problem with the article is that there seems to be no information on the web for how to install Tiddy on Ubuntu (the OS that I use). Sigil seems to install and use Tiddy to clean up the code. FYI: The conversion of ODT to ePUB involves converting a single ODT file to multiple HTML files based upon your settings in Calibre. These files are zipped along with other information, and the zipped file is given the ePUB suffix. --Dan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Zooming in
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Patricia Hickin pph...@gmail.com wrote: My computer zooms in on OpenOffice (and other) screens without my telling it to. (I have a laptop with touchpad). I know it has something to do with the way I'm using my fingers on the touchpad but I can't quite figure out how to avoid it. Is there any way I can disable this feature? It drives me crazy. It depends on the make and model of your laptop. I use a Lenovo Thinkpad and I can control the touchpad by typing the Fn+F8 key combination. -Rob (It happens with other programs too.) Thanks, Pat - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Are you successfully using OpenOffice? Can we quote you on that?
We're close to hitting the 50 million download mark for Apache OpenOffice 3.4. This is a major milestone and we're thinking about putting out a press release. As part of this we'd like to include quotes for some success stories with OpenOffice users. Ideally, I'd like something interesting, a small (or large) company that has deployed OpenOffice, a non-profit organization, a consultant who has recently deployed OpenOffice, etc. If you have an interesting story to tell regarding OpenOffice and are able to be quoted (name and affiliation) please contact me off-line. Thanks! -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: template paths for OS X and Windows
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Bruce Byfield bbyfi...@axion.net wrote: Hi: I am trying to find the location of template directories for both the system and for user accounts for both 32 and 64bit installations for OS X and Windows. The complete information is surprisingly hard to find. Can anyone help me out? I'd be especially grateful for OS X paths. Hi Bruce, On Windows 7 the user-defined templates are in: C:\Users\user-name\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice.org\3\user\template The pre-installed templates are in C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice.org 3\Basis\share\template\locale This may vary a bit depending on Windows configuration options and whether the user overrode the default directory when installing. Note that the AppData directory is hidden in a default installation of Windows. I know nothing about the Mac, unfortunately. Maybe someone else can chime in on that part of your question. In most cases it is best to add/remove templates from the UI rather than via the file system You can get to the Template Organizer via File/Templates/Organize. Regards, -Rob Thanks, -- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7189 (on Pacific time) blog: https://brucebyfield.wordpress.com website: http://members.axion.net/~bbyfield/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a brand refresh for our next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we are looking to update our logo. And there was no better ideas that copycatting MSO 4-tile logo, metro'izing it and throwing in some chicken feathers? The whole gallery save 1-2 images is like that. With all those donations one could suppose a real designer will be employed to create a keystone image. Unless someone is planning to get it off soon and not invest in it targeting next decade or more. Thanks. It is always good to get the LibreOffice perspective on this. But with nearly 4000 responses to the survey so far I think it shows that many thought it worth their effort to participate in the survey in a constructive way. This is good. We were happy to accept logo contributions from anyone. We didn't ask for their C.V. first. That's the nature of open source: we're open. Of course, not all of the logos will make it on to the second round. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
The Apache OpenOffice project is planning a brand refresh for our next major release, Apache OpenOffice 4.0. As part of this effort we are looking to update our logo. We've received 40 proposals from community members and we would like your feedback on these designs. You can find the survey here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ Thanks in advance for your participation and feedback. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey now Open!
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Albino B Neto bino...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/4/24 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/815178/ Good ! :-) I'm already spreading. 407 responses so far. Oh, my poor little server! -Rob Albino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
