Re: A way to branch from a previous revision?
Hi PDG, To do this, it's easiest to browse the repository in Versions. So select your repository (not your working copy) in the bookmarks list on the left, on the right go to the Browse view, and at the top- right of the window find the Revision: pop-up button. Click Browse other revision…, type 144 in the textfield, and click in the table below it. You should see revision 144 selected at the top of the table view after a little while. Now click the Select button at the bottom of that dialog. You're now browsing revision 144, you'll also see that the pop-up that you clicked on initially says 144 now. You can now, while holding the option key on your keyboard, drag the trunk folder to your branches folder, give this branch a name and boom: you have created your new 3.0 branch from revision 144. Select HEAD (Most Current) again from the Revision: pop-up button when you're done, now select the new branch in the Browse view and you can check out a fresh working copy of your new 3.0 branch. I hope this helps, if you have any more questions, feel free to ask them here, or if you need a response urgently, send them to our support team at versi...@madebysofa.com. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On May 17, 11:23 pm, PDGVersions webmas...@pdgcreative.com wrote: I would like to take everything that is up to revision 144 from our Trunk and basically make that into the a branch named 3.0. I have no clue how I am supposed to do that with Versions. Please help, thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Versions is Crashing OS X 10.6.7
Hi SRizzo, These crashes are unrelated to Versions. Every framework on your Mac has a folder called Versions in it, and the only occurrences of the word Versions in your crash log is from inside the CoreGraphics framework that contains the WindowServer application. I think you're better off finding help with this over here: www.apple.com/support All the best, - Dirk On Apr 16, 7:44 pm, TIBC Developer - SRizzo sparkyri...@gmail.com wrote: Within the past 2 weeks, my MBP has been crashing (softly- not black screen but restarts desktop). I checked the crash reports and they are all due to Versions (see below). Has anyone else experienced this? Report (partial) - - - - - Process: WindowServer [62] Path: /System/Library/Frameworks/ ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/WindowServer Identifier: WindowServer Version: ??? (???) Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [1] Date/Time: 2011-04-16 10:04:53.098 -0400 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.7 (10J869) Report Version: 6 Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: checksum mismatch
Hi Piet, First of all, welcome to the group! The problem you describe is usually the result of accidentally making changes to a copy of one of your files that's inside a .svn folder inside your working copy. Every working copy has these folders with metadata in them, they describe the contents of the folder they're in and every sub-folder than has its own .svn folder. One of the most important parts of the metadata is the original version of your files, from before you made any changes. This is the so-called BASE revision. Because these extra copies of the files exist, you're able to Revert without needing a connection to your repository. Along with those BASE revisions, the .svn folder also contains checksums of those files and the mismatch happens when you accidentally edit one of the files, therefore making its contents no longer match with the checksum. The best way to solve this is: 1. to isolate the files you have made changes to that you want to keep (as in, commit back to the repository when you have a chance). 2. to delete the folder that contains those files locally (from the Finder, not from Versions) in your working copy, making it missing. 3. to update your working copy, thereby getting an uncorrupted version of the folder back, 4. to place your changed files back in their applicable locations and to try and commit again. Now, because every sub-folder has it's own .svn admin area, moving folders back and forth is not recommended and can be a bit of a recipe for headaches. You're best off trying to move individual files back in to where they should be placed. In step 2, if your files are at the top level of your working copy, this may mean checking out an entirely fresh working copy. In such a case, I'd recommend checking it out next to the corrupted one, and if you have a lot of changes, use e.g. FileMerge (Kaleidoscope doesn't have a folder comparison feature yet), to see exactly which files are different between your original one and the fresh working copy. Then, copy over those changed files (except for the ones inside .svn folders of course) until they match. This way, you know you won't have lost any work. The good news is that this whole situation shouldn't happen very often, the bad news is that there's really not an easy way to have Versions, or another Subversion client for that matter, just fix things up for you. Drop us a line if you need more help with this. Cheers, - Dirk Stoop the Versions team On Mar 30, 10:53 am, piet guw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi There, I have a slightly annoying problem, I get this error after changing an already existing file. see below Base checksum mismatch on 'morris2.css': expected: e15c569c06e9357eca0c3a619a86d883 actual: ab16f2c7fcc8ac34951dd2e31e176216 If a remove the latest change in this file, it works again but as soon if I would like to commit a change, I get this error. I already tried to remove the old morris.css (hence; morris2.css in thje error) but after I made the same change in this file, the error returned At first I thought, maybe something inside my file was causing the error (because is did work after removing the last change) , like an not allowed character... but every change I made is causing this error (except getting back to the 'old' situation before the error...) Anyone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
100% of Versions sales go to Japan, today only
Hi all, We are donating all of our Versions (and Kaleidoscope, and Checkout) sales to charities in Japan for one day. More info on our blog: http://www.madebysofa.com/blog/help-japan/ Please spread the word. Thanks! - Dirk the Versions team -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Clean up files that were under source control
Careful copying that one, you don't want to make any typos in a script
that has rm -rf in it. :)
One thing to prevent getting those .svn folders in your copied folders
is to ‘export’ them rather than copying or moving them. I know it's a
little late now, but consider this a tip for the next time you need to
get some files out of version control. This command is also very
useful to, for instance, deploy a version of a website to your
webserver without putting all of your .svn metadata in a www-
accessible folder.
Select the folder you want to export in Versions' Browse view (works
with either a repo or working copy) and pick “Export…” under the File
menu or the item's context menu. The exported version will only have
the ‘real’ contents of the folder, not any of the “.svn” metadata
folders in there.
For those forget to use this feature (like me), here's a little Python
command-line script I use whenever I need to get rid of SVN metadata
manually: https://gist.github.com/871204
Cheers,
- Dirk
the Versions team
On Mar 11, 1:59 pm, Cue qbiz...@gmail.com wrote:
I assume your not referring to the svn cleanup utility?
If not, you'd have to manually remove the SVN files since clients serve the
purpose of managing versioned files.
Quick terminal command would be:
cd /path/to/directory
find . -type d -name .svn -exec rm -fR {} \;
Hope this helps.
Cue
On 11 Mar 2011, at 12:48, Jorde Vorstenbosch jordevorstenbo...@gmail.com
wrote:
Take it out of subversion control
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On Friday, 11 March 2011 at 13:47, Alex Zavatone wrote:
What do you mean by clean up?
On Mar 11, 2011, at 5:37 AM, Glenno wrote:
I would like to know this too. Anyone?
Glen
On Feb 24, 4:07 am, Peter peter...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Is there a way to clean up files that were copied using the Finder? Like
in
other version control clients you can Clean up files to set them back
to
normal files/folders.
I know there is the export function to copy files from a working copy
out
to the folder so it is clean of version control.
But I would prefer to copy files using the finder over to a new project.
Then I want to add the project in to SVB. However, versions fails because
those files and folders have Versions tracking infomation with them.
Thanks,
Peter
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Re: PPC Updates
Hi everyone, Thought I'd chime in to shed a little light on why we dropped PPC support. First of all, to kiddailey and anyone else still using Versions on a PPC machine, I'm sorry that this affects you. Seeing support for your machine dropped in a minor update of an app is also unusual, which makes this an even more unpleasant surprise. Below is some background on our decision. Leading up to Versions 1.1, we had to make quite a few decisions on how to move the app forward. One of the biggest decisions we made was to drop Mac OS X 10.4 support. As anyone who's coded for both 10.4 and 10.5 knows, dropping 10.4 really makes quite a difference in development productivity. We were comfortable making this change for Versions 1.1 because only 1 to 1.5% of all active Versions users were still using Mac OS X 10.4. Additionally, less than 1% of Versions' active users were still on PPC Macs. The final nail in the coffin (data-wise) for PPC support was that about half of the remaining PPC users were also on 10.4. So beyond dropping 10.4, also dropping PPC would affect less than 0.5% of all Versions users. The below graphs visualize the data that informed our decision: Mac OS X releases: http://yfrog.com/h6svvcp Architectures: http://yfrog.com/gz41tkp (both graphs display a 7-day moving average to eliminate some noise — for those interested, both Intel and more modern OS versions are slightly, just a tiny bit, more popular in the weekends. This final graph shows Intel/PPC day by day without any averaging: http://yfrog.com/h67oo4p) To be fair, supporting PPC takes way less effort than supporting Mac OS X 10.4 does, but it still takes effort. Most importantly, we need to test on every architecture and OS combination that we support for every release. With an app as big as Versions, you'd be surprised how often you still run into PPC-only issues during pre-release testing. Keeping a functional PPC machine around (and replacing it when it stops being functional) is also getting harder and harder. If it took zero effort to keep supporting PPC, we would keep supporting it. But given our experience, we think we can deliver more positive value to more people by dropping PPC support. It sucks that this means a handful of Versions users will get no more functionality updates, but to make an omelette you've got to break some eggs. I understand that none of this makes dropping PPC any more popular with people with PPC Macs, but I hope this at least shows we didn't make a rash or random decision. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team PS: @kiddailey: Thanks for the nice words about Versions, that means a lot. :) On Feb 28, 7:46 am, kiddailey kiddai...@gmail.com wrote: Well said, TheDo. And you're right, I could work around this using the Terminal, but I've come to love the GUI (and having grown up on DOS and swearing as a kid that I'd *never* use a GUI, that says a lot :) and Versions specifically. For what it's worth, the other well-made OS X SVN client that I was evaluating Versions against still supports PPC (though 10.5 is required). Depending on Sofa's response, I guess that's my alternative -- at least, until they drop PPC support too :/ On Feb 28, 1:23 am, TheDO Webmaster webmas...@thedigitalorchard.ca wrote: I agree with you. Subversion works equally well on all of these machines, why can't Versions? I think that's where the distinction needs to be made. Versions is not Subversion. It's a pretty wrapper around it. To continue using older machines, I think we need to accept this and learn the use the tools of our trade without the fancy interfaces sometimes. A little Terminal knowledge can let you continue to use these machines with equal power. /TheDO/ On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:17 PM, kiddailey kiddai...@gmail.com wrote: I have the hardware. Eight machines to be exact. Three of which are a variety of Intel Macs and two of which are PPC Macs. They are all running a variation of OS X versions. The other three others are Windows XP, Vista and 7. I test on all of them and use SVN as my bridge for getting updates of the various branches of the software to each. The issue is not in not having the hardware. On Feb 28, 12:54 am, Alex Zavatone alexzavat...@gmail.com wrote: But really, I had a quad processor G5 that was last made in 2006. That's 5 years ago. Apple doesn't even support the G5 anymore with the new OS or the current one. They might be fine machines (we even used a G4 for a server for a long time and I still have my TI) but they aren't being made anymore and the market sure isn't growing. On another note, I purchased a Quad processor Intel iMac last year (1067 MHz speed RAM) refurbed from Apple for 1400 bucks. It's just so nice and the current ones with RAM at 1333MHz are simply nutty fast. Sniff around here, I'm sure you'll see something you like that's affordable.
Re: ER: Load real icons for files added on server
Thanks Quinn, Bug filed. - Dirk On Mar 2, 4:41 pm, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: Screen shot 2011-03-02 at 7.32.34 AM.png 22KViewDownload I have View Show Updates from Repository enabled, and it's mildly annoying that files added on the server have a generic document icon; it makes glancing at the icon to infer what type it is rather useless. Using -[NSWorkspace iconForFileType:] (rather than -iconForFile:) it's trivial to get an icon using just a file extension. Since you're displaying only the standard icon (rather than a preview icon for images, etc.) you could even cache icons in an application-static dictionary (keyed by file extension) to reduce memory use and make lookups really fast. (I have no idea how you're implementing it now, just an idea.) Thanks, - Quinn smime.p7s 4KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: I lost everything on upgrade
Hi Toby, Sorry for the trouble. This is very strange and absolutely shouldn't happen. The Versions folder, containing your Bookmarks.plist and License files (and the Compare Scripts folder), belongs in the Application Support directory. To find this directory, first quit Versions, then use the Finder to navigate from your Home folder, to the Library folder, and in there the Application Support folder. There's probably a new folder called Versions in there, if so, rename it to something else (e.g Versions new). Next, drag the Versions folder from your Trash in there. Now restart Versions, everything should be back to normal. If you still experience problems, please contact us directly at versi...@madebysofa.com All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Feb 28, 3:20 pm, Toby t...@tobycryns.com wrote: I upgraded to the most recent Versions (1.1.5) and lost all of my repositories. A number of files were sent to the trash on upgrade: - com.madebysofa.Versions.plist - Versions (Folder) --- Bookmarks.plist --- License --- Compare Scripts (Folder) I assume that these files and folders are what is causing the problem, but I don't know how to put them back. Do you know how to fix this? Thanks! Toby -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Installed version vs. Update version
I just re-downloaded 1.1.4 and this is what was presented to me: http://a.yfrog.com/img614/3425/hmn1.png Can you send us a screenshot of what you're getting over to versi...@madebysofa.com? Thanks, - Dirk On Feb 5, 12:40 am, TheDigitalOrchard webmas...@thedigitalorchard.ca wrote: Every time Versions tells me about a new update that's available, it always gets the version number wrong. It says that version 1.1.4 has been downloaded and is ready to be installed, but that's the version I'm already running. It's actually referring to version 1.1.5, which does indeed get installed. Confirmed after relaunch. Is this a known issue? I've seen it happen for the last few updates at least. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Diff multiple files, diff whole revision
Ben, Jorde, Thanks for all the extra info. We'll see if we can make the whole experience a bit smoother in the future. Cheers, - Dirk On Jan 19, 2:05 pm, Ben Godfrey bpgodf...@gmail.com wrote: Ignore this. The Compare All buttons appeared when I restarted Versions. I hadn't restarted since licensing my expired Kaleidoscope demo. All working now! Thanks for your help. Ben On Jan 19, 12:22 pm, Ben Godfrey bpgodf...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Dirk, sorry to post a duplicate request. Perhaps it's worth adding your answer to the FAQs on the Versions site? I don't see the compare all button unfortunately. I'm running Kaleidoscope 1.1.1 and Versions 1.1.3 on OS X 10.6.6. I'm fairly sure I installed Kaleidoscope before I installed Versions. Ben On Jan 19, 11:42 am, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi Ben, Support for this was added to Versions and Kaleidoscope a little while ago. If all's well, you should see a Compare All button on the right hand side of each revision in Versions' timeline. If you don't see this option, it's probably because you're running an older version of Kaleidoscope. Drop us a line if you can't get it to work, - Dirk the Versions team On Jan 19, 10:56 am, Ben Godfrey bpgodf...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using Kaleidoscope and Versions - both excellent tools. I use svn diff to show a diff for all files in the repo in Kaleidoscope. When a colleague commits some code, I use something like svn diff -r 99:100 to display all the changes made in that commit. It would be great if I could do that from Versions instead of the command line. I would love to see a button to open a diff tool showing all changes next to each revision in the timeline. It would also be very useful to be able to select multiple files in the repo browser and get Kaleidoscope to show a diff. Thanks, Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: torn page icon
Hi Tim, That's not an icon that's present in our app Versions (www.versionsapp.com), where did you get that picture from? All the best, - Dirk On Jan 27, 9:23 pm, treehousetim treehouse...@gmail.com wrote: I'm struggling to figure out what this icon means. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3476294/versions.png anyone have any idea? Thanks! - Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Versions + Pathfinder?
Hey Mike, I just took a look and it's possible. In PathFinder's preferences, go to Reveal and check the box next to Set Path Finder as the default file viewer and Versions will follow suit, just like any other Cocoa app. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On Jan 27, 6:21 pm, Mike Combs m...@combsnet.com wrote: I use Pathfinder, which is a great alternative to Apple's Finder, at least for developers. Is there a way to make Versions' show in finder command use Pathfinder? -- Mike Combs | m...@combsnet.com | 978-677-6688 (home) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Versions + Pathfinder?
PS: You will have to restart Versions after checking or unchecking this box for the change to have any effect. On Jan 28, 12:39 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hey Mike, I just took a look and it's possible. In PathFinder's preferences, go to Reveal and check the box next to Set Path Finder as the default file viewer and Versions will follow suit, just like any other Cocoa app. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On Jan 27, 6:21 pm, Mike Combs m...@combsnet.com wrote: I use Pathfinder, which is a great alternative to Apple's Finder, at least for developers. Is there a way to make Versions' show in finder command use Pathfinder? -- Mike Combs | m...@combsnet.com | 978-677-6688 (home) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: adding files from an existing local project to a new beanstalk repository
Hi Simon, If you select a folder in Versions' Browse view and hit Add in the toolbar, it will add not only that folder, but also all of its contents. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Jan 27, 6:08 pm, Simon Lucas si...@spiralproductions.co.uk wrote: How do i use Versions to add a lot of existing src files from an old project to a new repository? I have an old project that I wish to start managing through Versions/ Beanstalk. I have created an empty repository online and created a local bookmark, thus creating the tags/trunks/branches setup on my disk. Then I added the src files I need to the trunk folder, on the local drive. It seems that the only way to add all the files is to go into each folder and mark them for adding one by one. I thought that I'd be able to add everything in one folder at once. Am I missing something? Thank-you. (I like Versions, but I have to say that the documentation is sparse for a beginner.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Diff multiple files, diff whole revision
Hi Ben, Support for this was added to Versions and Kaleidoscope a little while ago. If all's well, you should see a Compare All button on the right hand side of each revision in Versions' timeline. If you don't see this option, it's probably because you're running an older version of Kaleidoscope. Drop us a line if you can't get it to work, - Dirk the Versions team On Jan 19, 10:56 am, Ben Godfrey bpgodf...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using Kaleidoscope and Versions - both excellent tools. I use svn diff to show a diff for all files in the repo in Kaleidoscope. When a colleague commits some code, I use something like svn diff -r 99:100 to display all the changes made in that commit. It would be great if I could do that from Versions instead of the command line. I would love to see a button to open a diff tool showing all changes next to each revision in the timeline. It would also be very useful to be able to select multiple files in the repo browser and get Kaleidoscope to show a diff. Thanks, Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: New interface
Hey Josh, Sorry your email got stuck in moderation for a while. Due to some clumsiness on my behalf with some changes to my google account, the group's message pending notices ended up in an old inbox I rarely check. Regarding your feedback: We've received a lot of feedback about the UI changes, but a few exceptions aside (like yours), the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. After the 1.1 we have made some changes in response to people's feedback, e.g. some improvements to the new Timeline design. I personally think that the new look of the Timeline/Browse/Transcript buttons is a big improvement. I'm very sorry that you dislike them, but for the time being we don't plan to change them. If we receive significant similar criticism regarding those buttons we'll reevaluate. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 23, 11:23 pm, josh soniktro...@gmail.com wrote: What's up with the new interface? Most of the changes seem to be too minor to bother with but the one that stands out most is the new timeline/browse/transcript tabs. They don't make any sense. The tabs that aren't selected look greyed out and disabled, making you think that you can't click on them. And there's no hover state to indicate click-ability either. This is bad UI and even after I couple of weeks using it I still find myself hesitating with these tabs. I've been using Versions ever since it was in beta and have loved it but this is a bit of an odd new direction. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Diff with Kaleidoscope
Hi Marijn, With the many places in the app that let you open a comparison, just adding this one 'simple feature' is very hard to do without making Versions' interface more complicated. Secondly, so far you're the only person who requested this feature. We prioritize the features we implement by which ones – we believe – have the biggest impact. This one didn't make the cut primarily for the first reason — we don't want to clutter Versions' interface and destroy the best thing about Versions, but also for the second. I think the real solution to this particular feature request is scriptability, maybe similar to how some apps let you add your own scripts to a menu somewhere in the app (complete with keyboard shortcuts). That's a major undertaking, and therefore will have to be weighed against other 'big features', but it's a lot more appealing to me than adding an option to temporarily switch diffing apps for every comparison everywhere in the app. I hope this sheds some light on why this 'one simple issue' hasn't been 'resolved' in 1.1. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 2, 12:15 pm, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: I'm really disappointed to see that this issue has not been resolved in 1.1 Was my problem set unclear? To me it seems pretty straightforward that one would love to merge with FileMerge and view changes with Kaleidoscope. The workflow to support that right now is non-existent at best. Damn, I hate the fact that I've become such a negative nancy when it comes to Versions... Kindest regards, Marijn On Nov 18, 12:22 pm, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: It's not as much the support for Kaleidoscope itself but more for having the option to switch between filemerge en Kaleidoscope. Using the former for merging and the latter for viewing changes. Anyway, I'm abandoning SVN in favor of Git. This is only a concern for me on the project I'm about to finish. I merely wanted to point out the problem set this creates for people that have to merge changes now and again when they use Kaleidoscope. Kindest regards, Marijn On Nov 17, 9:27 pm, Rob Rye rowen...@gmail.com wrote: I have licenses for both. I don't really see any significant difference in the support for using Kaleidoscope in Cornerstone as compared with Versions. Rob On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Marijn wrote: My trial copy of CS expired so I cannot confirm for 100% but as I remember it has a Compare with option on a per file bases. Exactly what we need in Versions... On Nov 8, 10:04 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how does Cornerstone have better support for Kaleidoscope than Versions? Thanks, - Dirk On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: Funny, the competition has better support for using Kaleidoscope than Sofa itself... http://www.zennaware.com/cornerstone On Oct 17, 4:49 pm, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: Don't assume it won't be in the future. This email group is not the only way to get the devs' attention, or to judge what will and won't be supported. Check out the FAQ and email them directly here: http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/support - Quinn On Oct 17, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Marijn wrote: Well I take it this is not supported and given the lack of team response it won't be in the future either... On Oct 11, 7:08 pm, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: It's true, no merge on the feature list. http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/ Notice the emphasis on *spotting* changes quickly. Merge is not yet supported, but I imagine it will have to in order to survive and thrive amid competitors which *do* support merging. - Quinn On Oct 11, 2010, at 9:58 AM, pSouper wrote: really? Kaleidoscope doesn't merge? what good is a diff tool that can't merge? i'd be surpised and shocked i it didn't allow you to merge files - i've just bought it but haven't got around to opening yet so i'd go as far as being discussted... i'm popping off to test it now. On Oct 6, 6:43 am, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: *cough* On Sep 29, 5:17 pm, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having a little workflow problem with Kaleidoscope. Unfortunately Kaleidoscope doesn't have merge support (WTF). I often need to merge changes, so I'll have to do that with good ol' filemerge. How do I switch easily between filemerge and kaleidoscope as diff viewer from the interface in Versions? Going into the preference pane every time seems a bit cumbersome... Kindest regards, Marijn smime.p7s 4KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi
Re: Diff with Kaleidoscope
Hey Marijn, I like the way you think, especially that last sentence. Drop me a line by email and let's meet up sometime. - Dirk On Dec 2, 3:19 pm, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dirk, I'm sorry, I have a lot of trouble with your suggested solution and your argumentation. If I wanted to create scripts to enhance my workflow I'd probably not want to use a GUI in the first place. And wouldn't you say that the interface is already too cluttered if comparisons can be initiated from so many places in the app? Who knows... I don't know cocoa but my guess is that adding an extra menu open with shouldn't be that hard. Or adding a menu when you hold down the remote/local changes button showing you a list of editors to select from. I find it odd that thus far I'm the only one that has requested this feature/reported this bug but I guess there aren't a lot of people merging since it's not supported from within Versions. I understand that managing expectations is hard and that development in general is even harder. Though IMO I've always gotten the feeling that 1.1 would be a significant upgrade. I love the fact that I can organize my bookmarks in folders and the new timeline view is a big improvement. But the fact that you still can't switch between show all and changed view without losing the way you had expanded folders is really annoying. Maybe that's just me but most of the issues that are important regarding workflow have not yet been resolved which is really too bad if your waiting a year for an update. Again this is starting to look way too much like a rant which is not why I'm here. Apologies for that, maybe grabbing a beer together would be a better forum for this discussion :-) Kindest regards, Marijn On Dec 2, 2:09 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi Marijn, With the many places in the app that let you open a comparison, just adding this one 'simple feature' is very hard to do without making Versions' interface more complicated. Secondly, so far you're the only person who requested this feature. We prioritize the features we implement by which ones – we believe – have the biggest impact. This one didn't make the cut primarily for the first reason — we don't want to clutter Versions' interface and destroy the best thing about Versions, but also for the second. I think the real solution to this particular feature request is scriptability, maybe similar to how some apps let you add your own scripts to a menu somewhere in the app (complete with keyboard shortcuts). That's a major undertaking, and therefore will have to be weighed against other 'big features', but it's a lot more appealing to me than adding an option to temporarily switch diffing apps for every comparison everywhere in the app. I hope this sheds some light on why this 'one simple issue' hasn't been 'resolved' in 1.1. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 2, 12:15 pm, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: I'm really disappointed to see that this issue has not been resolved in 1.1 Was my problem set unclear? To me it seems pretty straightforward that one would love to merge with FileMerge and view changes with Kaleidoscope. The workflow to support that right now is non-existent at best. Damn, I hate the fact that I've become such a negative nancy when it comes to Versions... Kindest regards, Marijn On Nov 18, 12:22 pm, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: It's not as much the support for Kaleidoscope itself but more for having the option to switch between filemerge en Kaleidoscope. Using the former for merging and the latter for viewing changes. Anyway, I'm abandoning SVN in favor of Git. This is only a concern for me on the project I'm about to finish. I merely wanted to point out the problem set this creates for people that have to merge changes now and again when they use Kaleidoscope. Kindest regards, Marijn On Nov 17, 9:27 pm, Rob Rye rowen...@gmail.com wrote: I have licenses for both. I don't really see any significant difference in the support for using Kaleidoscope in Cornerstone as compared with Versions. Rob On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Marijn wrote: My trial copy of CS expired so I cannot confirm for 100% but as I remember it has a Compare with option on a per file bases. Exactly what we need in Versions... On Nov 8, 10:04 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how does Cornerstone have better support for Kaleidoscope than Versions? Thanks, - Dirk On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: Funny, the competition has better support for using Kaleidoscope than Sofa itself... http://www.zennaware.com/cornerstone On Oct 17, 4:49 pm, Quinn
Re: Congrats, Versions team
Thanks Joe, It means a lot to hear that. - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 2, 3:10 pm, Joe Wicentowski joe...@gmail.com wrote: 1.1 looks like a solid release with needed fixes and good new features. Thanks for continuing the development of Versions! For those who haven't seen it yet, here are the release notes:http://versionsapp.com/releasenotes Cheers, Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Congrats, Versions team
Hey Gabriel, Just wondering: Are you using Versions on Mac OS X 10.5 or 10.6? We've developed and reviewed the UI changes primarily on 10.6 (90% of active Versions users are on 10.6). Because of the lower default display gamma on 10.5, and various minute differences in the frameworks, everything gets a lot less contrast on 10.5. About the All/Changed button: It's very interesting to hear the feedback from everyone here. When I first saw Jasper's mockups with the button moved to the right, I freaked out a little. Later, when running pre-release builds I had a couple of moments similar to what Lorin describes. We decided to stick with the new location because it makes more sense (hierarchically) and we all got used to it pretty quickly. We'd love to hear more feedback on the UI changes. Of course we can't please everyone, but it really helps guide our ongoing fine-tuning efforts. Thanks, - Dirk On Dec 2, 7:57 pm, Gabriel Gilder gabriel.gil...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely a nice update, thanks to the team for all their work! One minor nit-pick... I personally find that with the new style of the Timeline/Browse/Transcript button, it's much more difficult to tell which is active, as the on/off states aren't as different as they used to be. Probably a minor visual tweak would fix this... anyone else feel this way? -Gabriel On Dec 2, 9:07 am, Shan iotas...@gmail.com wrote: I have to admit, when I heard Versions was going to get some updates, I was skeptical since we heard that for a LONG time. I'm happy to see this great step forward. Of course, if we could get the #1 requested feature added, that'd be great too. I won't mention it again, we all know what it is ;) Bottom line, I'd put my money where my mouth is. If I had to pay for an upgrade to, say 1.5 or 2.0 to get said new feature, I would. As developers, I think we can all understand there's a cost associated with adding features, so complaints about non-free updates should be minimal. Great update, here's to more of them :) Shan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: version 1.1.1 broke my versions
Hi Jean-Rubin, Sorry for the bad experience, you can get the previous release of Versions here: www.versionsapp.com/redirect/builds/Versions_1.0.9_79.zip We would have preferred to not show the update message to PPC or 10.4 users, but sadly that wasn't possible due to limitations to the update mechanism. There was a warning in the release notes, but it's understable that you may have missed it. When you get the update message again, select Skip this Update and it won't offer you any incompatible updates again. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 3, 2:39 am, Jean-Rubin L jrleon...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, i updated to 1.1.1 and it broke my installlation. I'm on a powerPC mac and now my versions is not working no more. If the software is not compatible it would be a good idea to NOT present the update option when it starts up. Anyone can tell me how i can downgrade? Thanks. JR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Congrats, Versions team
Hi Cue, I'm sorry you're dissappointed. But I can assure you that every single bullet point in the 1.1 release notes (did you read them? there were a lot of bullet points) is in there because it benefits people who use Versions. Sadly I can't promise you when particular features will ship, just that we'll do our best to implement what we think is most important for Versions, in the best way we can, as quickly as we can. - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 3, 1:20 am, Cue qbiz...@gmail.com wrote: I'm all for supporting the latest update, but that brings Versions that little closer to where IE6 is today. It's a substantial improvement to where it already stands against other clients. The two key features mentioned below are deemed as a substantial update. I would like to see features being introduced that really and truly need to be addressed, alongside the continuous improvements. Patience is a virtue, but how long before we see beneficial updates containing features that have already started rolling out in other clients? Cue On 3 Dec 2010, at 00:09, Matthew Young m...@objectivea.com wrote: Isn't the #1 requested item branching and merging? -Matt On Dec 2, 2010, at 4:05 PM, David Dunham wrote: On 2 Dec 2010, at 15:50, versions+nore...@googlegroups.com wrote: Of course, if we could get the #1 requested feature added, that'd be great too. I won't mention it again, we all know what it is ;) I know, I've been waiting for the ability to search the log for the longest time. But yes, nice to see a fairly substantial update. David Dunham http://a-sharp.com Twitter: @ASharpLLC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Google Groups Alternatives?
Hi Asbjørn, Thanks for your suggestions. One thing I want to reiterate is that we're not looking for a bug tracker or a customer support system, we're pretty happy with the way we have both set up. We are just looking for something that can host a decent mailing list, preferrably with an online forum as well :) Cheers, - DIrk On Nov 30, 8:50 pm, Asbjørn Ulsberg asbjo...@gmail.com wrote: For support tickets, feature requests, etc., Get Satisfaction and UserVoice are great (the best?) alternatives: http://getsatisfaction.com/http://uservoice.com/ Another alternative that works more like a forum, but still has some of the voting features and such as the two above and that you can host yourself, is Tender: http://tenderapp.com/ Otherwise I would extremely strongly suggest against using a vanilla forum, since it lacks the features you need to handle feature requests, bug reports., etc in a good (or any at all) way. Stack Exchange (as in the engine behindhttp://stackoverflow.com/) is also a better alternative than both Google Groups and a vanilla web-based forum. If you move from Google Groups to phpBB or something similar, I can promise I'll stop using Versions instantly. :) -Asbjørn On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:43:25 +0100, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi All, Because Google Groups is slowly dropping features – and it wasn't that great to begin with – we'd like to eventually find a better place to host this mailing list / online forum. I'd like to ask all of you for suggestions about where to go. From my point of view (the company's and the moderator's) we'd need at least the following features: - Moderation for posts from new members (there's quite a bit of spam that would reach the group without this) - Ways to both view and respond to discussions on the web, as well as through email - Ability for members to upload files Beyond this it doesn't have to be super powerful, as long as it's easy for people to join, read and write to it, I think we've met our goals. We want this to be a place where people can talk about the app and related topics, help eachother and exchange experiences. Something like getsatisfaction.com (emphasis on feature requests, and voting) or tenderapp.com (emphasis on support tickets, not open discussion) would definitely not fit the bill. Any feedback, either suggestions for a good place or piece of software to run this on, or about requirements I didn't mention but you think should be part of the evaluation, is very welcome. Thanks! - Dirk the Versions team -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Google Groups Alternatives?
Sure, I can tell a little bit about that: We use Trac for internal tickets, and a gmail account for support and customer service. The gmail account for support may sound silly, but we actually use Tender (tenderapp.com) on another project (and have experimented with other systems) and have found it easier to keep tabs on conversations and quickly get back to our customers using the gmail account. Less fancy metrics, but also less friction to get a clear overview and punch out a reply. We have our own custom systems to gather and analyze crash reports and software update statistics, and other custom systems to handle sales, licensing and registration, which are integrated with Versions' product website (where you can buy a copy, but also retrieve a lost license key). Finally, we don't have any automated system for feature request voting and instead manually weigh and keep track of popular feature requests. I'm not a big fan of public voting forums, because I believe they can raise false expectations as well as get in the way of having more intricate conversations. The thing we're trying to replace particularly is Google groups. Mostly because Google is slowly removing features from it and have already more or less abandoned ship. We'd like to find a better home for this community of Versions user before Google groups becomes entirely impossible to use. I hope that gives some insight :) All the best, - Dirk On Nov 30, 10:09 pm, Asbjørn Ulsberg asbjo...@gmail.com wrote: Okay. What is your current setup wrt bug tracking, tickets, feature requests, voting, etc.? -Asbjørn On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:16:59 +0100, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi Asbjørn, Thanks for your suggestions. One thing I want to reiterate is that we're not looking for a bug tracker or a customer support system, we're pretty happy with the way we have both set up. We are just looking for something that can host a decent mailing list, preferrably with an online forum as well :) Cheers, - DIrk On Nov 30, 8:50 pm, Asbjørn Ulsberg asbjo...@gmail.com wrote: For support tickets, feature requests, etc., Get Satisfaction and UserVoice are great (the best?) alternatives: http://getsatisfaction.com/http://uservoice.com/ Another alternative that works more like a forum, but still has some of the voting features and such as the two above and that you can host yourself, is Tender: http://tenderapp.com/ Otherwise I would extremely strongly suggest against using a vanilla forum, since it lacks the features you need to handle feature requests, bug reports., etc in a good (or any at all) way. Stack Exchange (as in the engine behindhttp://stackoverflow.com/) is also a better alternative than both Google Groups and a vanilla web-based forum. If you move from Google Groups to phpBB or something similar, I can promise I'll stop using Versions instantly. :) -Asbjørn On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:43:25 +0100, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi All, Because Google Groups is slowly dropping features – and it wasn't that great to begin with – we'd like to eventually find a better place to host this mailing list / online forum. I'd like to ask all of you for suggestions about where to go. From my point of view (the company's and the moderator's) we'd need at least the following features: - Moderation for posts from new members (there's quite a bit of spam that would reach the group without this) - Ways to both view and respond to discussions on the web, as well as through email - Ability for members to upload files Beyond this it doesn't have to be super powerful, as long as it's easy for people to join, read and write to it, I think we've met our goals. We want this to be a place where people can talk about the app and related topics, help eachother and exchange experiences. Something like getsatisfaction.com (emphasis on feature requests, and voting) or tenderapp.com (emphasis on support tickets, not open discussion) would definitely not fit the bill. Any feedback, either suggestions for a good place or piece of software to run this on, or about requirements I didn't mention but you think should be part of the evaluation, is very welcome. Thanks! - Dirk the Versions team -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Google Groups Alternatives?
Thanks for the suggestions everyone, I also heard mixed things about Yahoo groups elsewhere and think we can safely eliminate that option. (If I understand correctly, you even need a yahoo ID to be able to log in to them, which is kind of a dealbreaker). The biggest problem with something like Redmine would be email support. Not sure how configurable their email support is, but just operating an SMTP server is no walk in the park, so I'd rather not have to... Vanilla forums look great, but their email support (not built-in but through availeble plugins) seems pretty minimalistic (no daily digest features etc.) and there's the same story with the SMTP server again. We'll keep on looking :) - Dirk On Nov 17, 5:00 pm, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: I take it you already have a bugtracker but Redmine provides a really great forum, wiki, bugtracker and files management all in one. On Nov 13, 8:21 am, Rob Rye rowen...@gmail.com wrote: I have a fair bit of experience moderating groups on Yahoo! Groups (I inherited all these groups from other moderators and am stuck with them as the communities that use them are unwilling to contemplate migrating to anything better). I find the spam recognition features capricious. The file management set up is annoying as well. I definitely would not recommend it for anything other than a social group that just wants to have a convenient group email system - and doesn't mind having the occasional member email labeled as spam for no good reason at all. Rob On Nov 12, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Rob Lewis wrote: Not really an expert on these things, but what about Yahoo? Used it a few years ago and it seemed pretty good. On Nov 12, 5:43 am, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi All, Because Google Groups is slowly dropping features – and it wasn't that great to begin with – we'd like to eventually find a better place to host this mailing list / online forum. I'd like to ask all of you for suggestions about where to go. From my point of view (the company's and the moderator's) we'd need at least the following features: - Moderation for posts from new members (there's quite a bit of spam that would reach the group without this) - Ways to both view and respond to discussions on the web, as well as through email - Ability for members to upload files Beyond this it doesn't have to be super powerful, as long as it's easy for people to join, read and write to it, I think we've met our goals. We want this to be a place where people can talk about the app and related topics, help eachother and exchange experiences. Something like getsatisfaction.com (emphasis on feature requests, and voting) or tenderapp.com (emphasis on support tickets, not open discussion) would definitely not fit the bill. Any feedback, either suggestions for a good place or piece of software to run this on, or about requirements I didn't mention but you think should be part of the evaluation, is very welcome. Thanks! - Dirk the Versions team -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Diff with Kaleidoscope
Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how does Cornerstone have better support for Kaleidoscope than Versions? Thanks, - Dirk On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: Funny, the competition has better support for using Kaleidoscope than Sofa itself... http://www.zennaware.com/cornerstone On Oct 17, 4:49 pm, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: Don't assume it won't be in the future. This email group is not the only way to get the devs' attention, or to judge what will and won't be supported. Check out the FAQ and email them directly here: http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/support - Quinn On Oct 17, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Marijn wrote: Well I take it this is not supported and given the lack of team response it won't be in the future either... On Oct 11, 7:08 pm, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: It's true, no merge on the feature list. http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/ Notice the emphasis on *spotting* changes quickly. Merge is not yet supported, but I imagine it will have to in order to survive and thrive amid competitors which *do* support merging. - Quinn On Oct 11, 2010, at 9:58 AM, pSouper wrote: really? Kaleidoscope doesn't merge? what good is a diff tool that can't merge? i'd be surpised and shocked i it didn't allow you to merge files - i've just bought it but haven't got around to opening yet so i'd go as far as being discussted... i'm popping off to test it now. On Oct 6, 6:43 am, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: *cough* On Sep 29, 5:17 pm, Marijn marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having a little workflow problem with Kaleidoscope. Unfortunately Kaleidoscope doesn't have merge support (WTF). I often need to merge changes, so I'll have to do that with good ol' filemerge. How do I switch easily between filemerge and kaleidoscope as diff viewer from the interface in Versions? Going into the preference pane every time seems a bit cumbersome... Kindest regards, Marijn smime.p7s 4KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. smime.p7s 4KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Sofa Acquires Versions
Thanks for the support guys, We have some great new stuff coming up. - Dirk On Oct 18, 4:47 pm, Blaise blaise.free...@gmail.com wrote: Great news - I'm glad to hear that development will be continued, there's a lot of interest in closing the gap between the AWESOME interface, and some limited functionality. On Oct 7, 5:56 am, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi all, We have some big news: Sofa has acquired all of Versions. Nothing will change immediately; we were already part owner of Versions and are already proud of it, so we don't plan to change things just for change's sake. Support will be handled by the same excellent team at the same email address. If you own a copy of Versions, your license is still just as valid as it was before. One thing will change and that's that we'll invest more in the continued development of Versions, which is exactly what this acquisition lets us do. Read our joint press release/blog post about it here:http://www.madebysofa.com/blog/sofa-acquires-versions/ If you have any questions about any of this, please ask them here and I'll happily answer them. Thanks, - Dirk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Sofa Acquires Versions
Hi all, We have some big news: Sofa has acquired all of Versions. Nothing will change immediately; we were already part owner of Versions and are already proud of it, so we don't plan to change things just for change's sake. Support will be handled by the same excellent team at the same email address. If you own a copy of Versions, your license is still just as valid as it was before. One thing will change and that's that we'll invest more in the continued development of Versions, which is exactly what this acquisition lets us do. Read our joint press release/blog post about it here: http://www.madebysofa.com/blog/sofa-acquires-versions/ If you have any questions about any of this, please ask them here and I'll happily answer them. Thanks, - Dirk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Exporting entire history log of code committed
Hi Michael and welcome to the group, This information exists in your repository, but not in your working copy. So indeed, if you can no longer connect to the repository, you will no longer be able to access this information. If you truly want to be able to see for each revision which lines of code were committed and by whom, the only practical way to store that information is in the form of an svn repository or a repository dump that you can later use to recreate a repository. Versions doesn't have this functionality built in and to do it you'll need to be able to login to your svn server. For more info, google svnadmin dump. If just information about which file someone committed a change to and when is enough, just the history log may do. In that case, the command line svn log -v command will output a log that's very similar to Versions' timeline view. Run for example svn log -v --non-interactive mylogfile.txt in a Terminal window that's in your working copy directory to create or overwrite a file named mylogfile.txt that contains all this information. There are also options to export the log in XML and with less detailed information, type svn help log to learn more about them. I hope this helps, - Dirk On Jul 23, 5:39 pm, Michael ivers...@gmail.com wrote: How would I export into a text file the entire timeline of code commits ? I want to have on my local hard drive every line of code committed and changed. I think this content exists in the history log. If I become disconnected to the source repository, do I lose this content from my SVN ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Ignore a Directory in Versions
Hi ShiVik, The biggest challenge comes from wanting to ignore everything except for cache and logs inside the tmp directory, afaik. that's simply not possible with SVN. If you can find a way to drop that requirement achieving the rest of what you described is pretty straightforward. Ideally, you could even create the tmp directory itself as well on the fly, so all you would need to set up in Versions is ignoring the tmp folder like Quinn described. To ignore tmp, you'll need to first delete it from svn; both command-line svn and Versions will choke if they find you're trying to ignore a file or folder that's already under version control. If for whatever reason likewise changes aren't possible, following Cue's suggestions to ignore specific files inside the tmp and other folders would be your best bet. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On May 10, 4:41 pm, ShiVik vikramvmalhotra1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all Just go started with Versions. Seems fun and quite intuitive like those SVN clients on Windows. I just bumped into a ignore directory problem. I want to have a directory tmp and it subdirectories cache, logs checked in, but want the files that get generated inside either of tmp, cache, logs to be ignored. Here's my checked-in folder structure /app /app/tmp /app/tmp/cache /app/tmp/logs Now I understand that I need to edit the svn:ignore property of Inspector for app folder, but what should I put in it? I tried the following in vain... tmp . tmp . -R Please guide me. Thanks and Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Minor problem updating
Hi David, This is a known problem that didn't make the cut for the 1.0.8 release. The root cause of the problem is intertwined with several low-level parts of the app, so before we can ship a release that fixes it we need to test such a fix very thoroughly. For the time being, we didn't want to hold out on all the other improvements that were ready in time for 1.0.8. In other words: This bug bugs us too and it'll definitely be fixed some time in future. Thanks! - Dirk the Versions team On Mar 2, 4:49 pm, gbeane glen.be...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 1, 6:49 pm, David Dunham alakor...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I launched Versions today and was told about 1.0.8. I updated, but was unable to quit (I forget the exact dialog), and had to kill it from the Terminal. (It was updated when I re-launched.) David Dunham Creator of Jigami, a unique game for iPhone/iPod touch http://a-sharp.com/jigami/ I seem to have this problem often when I try to update Versions -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Registration problems
Great, I'm happy it worked. We were making some changes to the registration server to reflect our 50% to Haiti campaign, so my guess is that you tried to register at the exact moment I deployed the changes (6:47 pm CET yesterday). Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On Jan 14, 10:19 pm, Mr. Sharkey mr.sharkey@gmail.com wrote: Whatever changed, it's fixed now; registration successful - thanks! M. On Jan 14, 3:30 pm, Mr. Sharkey mr.sharkey@gmail.com wrote: Sure - I'm trying to register a purchased copy of Versions. In the registration dialog, my name and email address are pre-entered, and I've cut-pasted the license key. I've clicked that I agree to the Terms, and when I click on 'Register', I get the error Connection error. Please try again later. I'm running the following: Versions 1.0.7 - Build 73 OS X v.10.6.2 Btw, I have added an exception in the firewall for Versions. Thanks. On Jan 14, 2:00 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Can you tell us exactly what the problem is you're running into? thanks, - Dirk the Versions team On Jan 14, 7:34 pm, Mr. Sharkey mr.sharkey@gmail.com wrote: Was this problem ever resolved? I'm having the same difficulty and it's January, 2010 .. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: open newly-added file from Timeline
When you click an added or deleted entry in the timeline, Versions downloads the file from the repository to a temporary location and then tries to open it through NSWorkspace. This attempt fails when your Mac (launch services) can't find a suitable program to open a file with that file's extension. The easiest way to solve this is to select a file with the same extension in the Finder, Get Info on it, select the app you want to use under Open with: and click Change All Please let me know if that doesn't resolve it. Thanks, - Dirk On Jan 15, 8:22 am, TheDO webmas...@thedigitalorchard.ca wrote: I find the Timeline great at monitoring the changes made to various open-source projects. However, for newly-added files, clicking the file doesn't do anything. Modified files open up in FileMerge since it has something to compare against (the previous version). Versions attempts to do something with the newly-added files, there's a flash, but then nothing. Is this a known issue? How does one view these files from the Timeline? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Registration problems
Can you tell us exactly what the problem is you're running into? thanks, - Dirk the Versions team On Jan 14, 7:34 pm, Mr. Sharkey mr.sharkey@gmail.com wrote: Was this problem ever resolved? I'm having the same difficulty and it's January, 2010 .. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Newb Question
Hi GJ, You can put any binary file under SVN version control. When you commit changes, the old version is overwritten. No special actions needed. The only caveat is that if multiple people have changed the same file, person 1 has committed them and person 2 hasn't yet, SVN has no way of merging the changes when person 2 hits Update, so person 2 will have to pick which version of the file to keep. Other than that, it works fine. We have a lot of PSD files, PNGs and even a load of PDFs and pages documents in Subversion ourselves. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On Jan 13, 11:56 pm, GJ marlon.harri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I recently pruchased Versions. I'm still learning about SVN, and had a question. Some of my files are PSD and FLA files. I know they're binary and I understand SVN only manages versioning in text-based files. If I commit changes for my directory, and an FLA is included, will it just overwrite the binary file currently in SVN, or is there something special I have to do to make sure I have the right binary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Purchased / Registered Versions in Mar 27, 2009 - now it's telling me the Demo has expired.
Hi Richard, That's definitely the weirdest registration related error I've ever seen. Can you try deleting the License file from Library/Application Support/Versions in your home folder and registering again? Thanks and sorry for the hassle, - Dirk the Versions team On Jan 14, 10:36 pm, richardun richar...@gmail.com wrote: When I look at the Versions About Versions, I get: This copy is registered, thank you! And it's telling me DEMO Expired, Click Purchase. What? Versions 1.0.7 - Build 73 I registered with richar...@gmail.com. I'm looking at my license in my email. Contact me for further details, please. Thanks, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Moving local repository to beanstalk account...
Hi James, The good people at Beanstalk have a pretty good tutorial on how to do this over here: http://help.beanstalkapp.com/faqs/managing-repositories/how-can-i-prepare-an-svn-dump-to-import-into-beanstalk After you've successfully exported your local repository with the svnadmin dump command, you can import it into a new Repository on Beanstalk. To do that, log in at Beanstalk and hit the Create New Repository button in the Repositories tab. Over there, you can opt to create your repository starting with the file you exported before. I'm sure other hosted services will have similar options, and most likely, Beanstalk's how-to page on exporting a repository will apply to those as well. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On Jan 8, 12:51 pm, james ja...@method.org.uk wrote: Hi All, How easy is it to move a local repository to a hosted account, ie. Beanstalk? Any help welcome... Thanks in advance, James -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Error in child process: exec of 'ssh' failed: No such file or directory
Hi Bob, Welcome to the group. Your hunch is correct, there's a known issue with Versions resolving paths through the environment for anything listed in the .subversion/ config file. If you put the full path to the ssh executable (/usr/bin/ ssh) in there it should work as expected. Let me know if that works :) - Dirk On Jan 2, 3:57 pm, Bob Denny dc3de...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought Versions, and I am having problems with svn+ssh. I have it all set up for command line access: I defined a tunnel for svn 'a2' with the custom port (-p), my username (-l) on the remote server, and my keyfile (-i), and it's working: $ svn list svn+a2://svn.dc3.com/home/rbdenny/svn/astro/voevent branches/ tags/ trunk/ Killed by signal 15. -- I know what this is, a bug in svn 1.5/1.6 that I wrestled with on Windows! Note the 'svn+a2' - the 'a2' is the tunnel name I set up in .svn/ config. If I cut and paste the URL 'svn+a2://svn.dc3.com/home/rbdenny/svn/ astro/voevent' into the Versions New Repository Bookmark window, leaving Username and Password blank, it fails with the error message 'Error in child process: exec of 'ssh' failed: No such file or directory'. What's going on? It's almost like Versions can't find the ssh executable. I am a relative newcomer, so please bear with me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
20% Discount on Versions
Hi everybody, To celebrate a great 2009, we're running a special end-of-year promo on Versions. If you go to versionsapp.com and click on the discount banner, or on the “Buy” link at the top of the page, you'll automatically get 20% off. The promo runs until January 2nd. I'll include the word coupon in this post, so that people who are searching for a coupon code have a good chance of running into it. Thanks and happy holidays! - Dirk the Versions team -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: dot file Lock Hell
Hi veddermatic, Any chance that the filesystem on that NAS volume is case-sensitive? When I look at the output you posted, the “s”-es in “settings” are lowercase in all of the file names in the error message, and uppercase in the directory listing. Also, while both of these: “._button_apply323Settings.gif.svn-work*” “button_advanced323settings.gif.svn-work*” exist in the props directory, I don't see a file named: “._button_advanced323settings.gif.svn-work” Can you let me know which protocol you're using to access the NAS volume from your Mac? (SMB, AFS, NFS?) There might be some known problem with case-sensitivity and the protocol you're using, but that's just a wild guess on my behalf -- it may not even be related to the trouble you're experiencing. The easiest way to fix this probably goes like this: 1. Temporarily move anything with uncommitted changes you want to keep elsewhere (outside of your working copy) 2. Delete the “buttons” directory from your working copy (Finder delete, not svn delete) 3. Update your working copy 4. Place those files you set aside back and commit your changes Note that if anything you moved out of the way is actually a folder, you'll have to delete the “.svn” folder that's in there before you add it back to the working copy, to avoid confusing SVN.. Good luck and let me know how it works out, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 23, 8:44 pm, veddermatic vedderma...@gmail.com wrote: I accidentally added a dot file that OS X threw on the NAS volume I have a repository checked out on, and now I'm stuck in lock hell. Running 'Cleanup Working Copy Lock On...' gives me this error: = In directory '/Volumes/share/misc/prjk_branch_55/gui/img/buttons' Error processing command 'committed' in '/Volumes/share/misc/ prjk_branch_55/gui/img/buttons' Can't move '/Volumes/share/misc/prjk_branch_55/gui/img/buttons/.svn/ props/._button_advanced323settings.gif.svn-work' to '/Volumes/share/ misc/prjk_branch_55/gui/img/buttons/.svn/prop- base/._button_advanced323settings.gif.svn-base': No such file or directory However, we can see: === macbook-2:.svn vedder$ pwd /Volumes/share/misc/prjk_branch_55/gui/img/buttons/.svn macbook-2:.svn vedder$ ls -al props/ total 68 drwx-- 1 vedder vedder 16384 Dec 23 14:22 ./ drwx-- 1 vedder vedder 16384 Dec 23 14:12 ../ -rwx-- 1 vedder vedder 79 Dec 23 14:22 ._button_apply323Settings.gif.svn-work* -rwx-- 1 vedder vedder 79 Dec 23 13:54 button_advanced323settings.gif.svn-work* macbook-2:.svn vedder$ Said file is in fact there. OS X's command line svn is at 1.4.3, so I can't command line it (although I'm using MacPorts to upgrade now) but was wondering if there was some secret mojo to fix this from within Versions. This will teach me to be more careful in what click on when adding files =) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Problem: Google Code SSL certificates - Reopened
Same here, The good people at Google Code say that a new cert has been issued two days ago, so seeing those dialogs once more is expected. I'm hoping they'll stop popping up in a day or so. The last time they fixed this was on thxgiving, so I'm crossing my fingers for an xmas fix. ;) - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 23, 2:32 pm, jared jared.thomas.hender...@gmail.com wrote: after another couple weeks without the problem, it has cropped up again, starting last night. :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Terrible user experience using Versions and Snow Leopard - Fixed
Thanks Robin, I've taken the liberty to add the word Fixed to this discussion's topic. :) All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 11, 1:58 pm, Robin ro...@active8.nl wrote: The update fixed the apr_pool_cleanup issue I had, many many thanks for releasing this fix earlier. Excellent. On Dec 9, 10:57 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Shortest vacation ever, sorry ;) ETA is later this week. We have a bigger update in the works, but since that one needs a little more love before it's ready for primetime, we've decided to release a small update that primarily takes care of this issue in between. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 9, 2:58 pm, jangro sjan...@gmail.com wrote: This apr_pool_cleanup_kill issue is making me nuts. I get it literally every few minutes. I'm glad to see that you're fixing it, but would also like to hear an ETA. I may just go on vacation until then and I need to know when to come back to work. :) On Dec 4, 10:56 am, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: The next update will fix several issues, but the particular fix I was talking about only relates to the crash logs that have apr_pool_cleanup_kill in their traceback. - Dirk On Dec 3, 5:26 pm, Marijn Huizendveld marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 3, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Dirk Stoop wrote: the next update Will that only fix this specific issue or other things as well? to Versions, Thanks for your patience, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 3, 3:13 pm, misterniall niall.br...@gmail.com wrote: You aren't the only one. I have at least 30 of them here is an example of mine: Process: Versions [1599] Path: /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/Versions Identifier: Versions Version: ??? (???) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: Versions [424] Date/Time: 2009-11-19 16:33:42.839 -0330 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.2 (10C540) Report Version: 6 Interval Since Last Report: 4201 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 1 Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 1 Anonymous UUID: F7C53458-E942-4CBE- B7B1-21971F46D79B Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x73722f83 Crashed Thread: 0 Application Specific Information: *** multi-threaded process forked *** Thread 0 Crashed: 0 libapr.dylib 0x002d928d apr_pool_cleanup_kill + -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: proxy
Hi Neoraptor, Progress is being made and we have a basic implementation of proxy support now. It was scheduled to be in the next update, but we've decided to release 1.0.7 first to take care of a couple of critical bugs, before we're done with fleshing out and testing new features like this one. Sorry to keep you waiting, I can promise that proxy support will be in Versions soon though. - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 11, 11:29 am, Neoraptor neuhaus.jonat...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I would like to know if there is some progress on this features. I still can't use Versions for work because of the proxy support. Best regards, Neoraptor. On 2 nov, 15:58, Neoraptor neuhaus.jonat...@gmail.com wrote: 1. I would like to use http/https/socks 2. I think that the better would be to give the choice to use system setting or custom settings or Noproxy(look at the firefoxproxy settings) I have to use Versions withproxy, and I would like to know if it is possible to use tsocks with Versions in order to pass theproxy. Thank you for support. Best regards. Neoraptor On 9 oct, 09:35, Sofa madebys...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everybody, So we have some questions regarding this feature request. 1) Over what kind of connections are you using aproxyserver, http:// https://, or also other protocols? 2) Would versions adhere to the System Preferenceproxysettings? Regards, -- Jasper the versions team On Oct 8, 4:43 pm, Neoraptor neuhaus.jonat...@gmail.com wrote: I have the same problem with proxys. Could we know if this feature will be implemented? Best regards, Neoraptor. On 18 août, 09:49, fzurell falko.zur...@gmail.com wrote: I've the very same problem. I have to use aProxyin my network to connect to internet sites. But Versions.app doesn't seem to recognize the systemsproxysettings, nor have it's own option to configureproxyusage. Is this a bug or a feature? kind regards Falko On Aug 11, 8:51 am, enerdesign enerdes...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Versions don't work with my systemproxysetting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Problem: Google Code SSL certificates - Reopened
The ticket at Google is filled with comments from people who have started seeing those dialogs again, they're working on it.. On Dec 9, 2:45 am, Nitin Madnani nmadn...@gmail.com wrote: I am a relatively new user of Versions and am seeing these popups every few minutes on my Mac running snow leopard. Help! Nitin On Nov 26, 12:57 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi everyone, This problem has been fixed by google. On thanksgiving nonetheless, so I know who I'm giving thanks to ;) If anyone still gets those dialogs (which seems pretty unlikely to me, but you never know), please drop a line here or at google's support page linked in my previous post. Cheers and happy thxgiving, - Dirk the Versions team On Nov 24, 11:48 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Yet more info: Please 'star' this issue at Google Code if you're experiencing the problem in Versions:http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=3312 The more votes, the more likely they'll be able to give it a higher priority. Thank you all for your patience, - Dirk the Versions team On Nov 24, 9:57 pm, Stratification stratificat...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds very much like what I'm seeing and would really explain its intermittent nature. Thanks for the update, here's to hoping there's a reasonable fix on the horizon (or Google gets their act together). Aaron On Nov 24, 11:59 am, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Some more info: It seems that people using the command line client, or other Subversion clients are also running into this problem (minus the modal dialogs of course). http://groups.google.com/group/google-code-hosting/browse_thread/thre.. Apparently Google Code is sending one of two SSL certificates back (at random) on every new connection to an https Google Code URL. One of these certs is signed by Thawte, one by Google themselves. Every time there's a mismatch between a previously acceptedcertificatefor a particular URL and one that's being used on a new connection, SVN chokes and asks the user to accept the newcertificate. Everything seems to point out that this is a problem with Google Code, not with Versions or Subversion in general. We're still looking for a workaround and ideally for a solution. Like Nick said, turning of working copy badges will help, because every time those are refreshed a new connection is made. It won't make the problem go away completely, but you'll see a lot fewer dialogs. Importing the *.googlecode.comcertificatethat Google signed themselves in your Keychain will not fix the problem, at least it doesn't for me; I still get the dialog asking me to accept the certificate, the difference is that the dialog claims thecertificate is set to be trusted (which I just did in Keychain Access) instead of untrusted. If anyone here knows someone at or close to Google Code, please ask them to take a look at this thread. Any help we can get to clear this up would be appreciated. :) Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Terrible user experience using Versions and Snow Leopard
Shortest vacation ever, sorry ;) ETA is later this week. We have a bigger update in the works, but since that one needs a little more love before it's ready for primetime, we've decided to release a small update that primarily takes care of this issue in between. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 9, 2:58 pm, jangro sjan...@gmail.com wrote: This apr_pool_cleanup_kill issue is making me nuts. I get it literally every few minutes. I'm glad to see that you're fixing it, but would also like to hear an ETA. I may just go on vacation until then and I need to know when to come back to work. :) On Dec 4, 10:56 am, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: The next update will fix several issues, but the particular fix I was talking about only relates to the crash logs that have apr_pool_cleanup_kill in their traceback. - Dirk On Dec 3, 5:26 pm, Marijn Huizendveld marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 3, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Dirk Stoop wrote: the next update Will that only fix this specific issue or other things as well? to Versions, Thanks for your patience, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 3, 3:13 pm, misterniall niall.br...@gmail.com wrote: You aren't the only one. I have at least 30 of them here is an example of mine: Process: Versions [1599] Path: /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/Versions Identifier: Versions Version: ??? (???) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: Versions [424] Date/Time: 2009-11-19 16:33:42.839 -0330 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.2 (10C540) Report Version: 6 Interval Since Last Report: 4201 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 1 Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 1 Anonymous UUID: F7C53458-E942-4CBE- B7B1-21971F46D79B Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x73722f83 Crashed Thread: 0 Application Specific Information: *** multi-threaded process forked *** Thread 0 Crashed: 0 libapr.dylib 0x002d928d apr_pool_cleanup_kill + -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Terrible user experience using Versions and Snow Leopard
The next update will fix several issues, but the particular fix I was talking about only relates to the crash logs that have apr_pool_cleanup_kill in their traceback. - Dirk On Dec 3, 5:26 pm, Marijn Huizendveld marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 3, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Dirk Stoop wrote: the next update Will that only fix this specific issue or other things as well? to Versions, Thanks for your patience, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 3, 3:13 pm, misterniall niall.br...@gmail.com wrote: You aren't the only one. I have at least 30 of them here is an example of mine: Process: Versions [1599] Path: /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/Versions Identifier: Versions Version: ??? (???) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: Versions [424] Date/Time: 2009-11-19 16:33:42.839 -0330 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.2 (10C540) Report Version: 6 Interval Since Last Report: 4201 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 1 Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 1 Anonymous UUID: F7C53458-E942-4CBE- B7B1-21971F46D79B Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x73722f83 Crashed Thread: 0 Application Specific Information: *** multi-threaded process forked *** Thread 0 Crashed: 0 libapr.dylib 0x002d928d apr_pool_cleanup_kill + -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Terrible user experience using Versions and Snow Leopard
Hi guys, This is a known problem, we are working on a fix for it right now. Although we've received some reports that people started seeing this particular crash report a lot more after upgrading to Snow Leopard, it's not completely isolated to Snow Leopard. We are pretty far along with the actual fix and are currently testing whether it has any adverse effects elsewhere. To fix the issue, we've had to make some changes pretty deep down in the guts of some of the library code we use, so we need/want to test rigorously for side effects before we're ready to ship it. I'm hoping we'll have this resolved soon, possibly in the next update to Versions, Thanks for your patience, - Dirk the Versions team On Dec 3, 3:13 pm, misterniall niall.br...@gmail.com wrote: You aren't the only one. I have at least 30 of them here is an example of mine: Process: Versions [1599] Path: /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/Versions Identifier: Versions Version: ??? (???) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: Versions [424] Date/Time: 2009-11-19 16:33:42.839 -0330 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.2 (10C540) Report Version: 6 Interval Since Last Report: 4201 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 1 Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 1 Anonymous UUID: F7C53458-E942-4CBE- B7B1-21971F46D79B Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x73722f83 Crashed Thread: 0 Application Specific Information: *** multi-threaded process forked *** Thread 0 Crashed: 0 libapr.dylib 0x002d928d apr_pool_cleanup_kill + -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Versions unusable because too many crashes
Hey Tim, I just noticed that this issue has been fixed in Subversion 1.6.6. From the release notes: * fix libsvn_ra_svn/marshal.c assertion failed (opt || cstr) (issue #3485) Or if you're interested in more details: http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3485 We'll try to replace SVN 1.6.5 with SVN 1.6.6 in the next release of Versions, so you'll be able to use SVN 1.6 in Versions again. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On Nov 24, 5:31 pm, tim timkna...@hotmail.com wrote: Versions is working nicely again, thanks for the help! On Nov 24, 1:01 pm, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: Only in the sense that they will not be readable by an earlier SVN client. (It won't actually modify the working copy, it's a version compatibility issue.) - Quinn On Nov 24, 2009, at 12:24 AM, tim wrote: but wait... if I go back to svn 1.5.x, won't this mess with my existing working copies? On Nov 24, 9:17 am, tim timkna...@hotmail.com wrote: yep, I'm on svn 1.6.5! I'll try reverting to 1.5 and see what's happening then... thanks! On Nov 23, 1:54 pm, oltbaba oltb...@googlemail.com wrote: Which Subversion Version are you using? In our Team (3 People) two persons can use Versions (running Subversion v1.4.x v1.5.x) Our new team member runs subversion v1.6.5, with this subversion the Versions app crashes on start-up. Anybody experiences the same problems with newer subversion version (= 1.6.5)? smime.p7s 4KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Problem: Google Code SSL certificates - FIXED
Hi everyone, This problem has been fixed by google. On thanksgiving nonetheless, so I know who I'm giving thanks to ;) If anyone still gets those dialogs (which seems pretty unlikely to me, but you never know), please drop a line here or at google's support page linked in my previous post. Cheers and happy thxgiving, - Dirk the Versions team On Nov 24, 11:48 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Yet more info: Please 'star' this issue at Google Code if you're experiencing the problem in Versions:http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=3312 The more votes, the more likely they'll be able to give it a higher priority. Thank you all for your patience, - Dirk the Versions team On Nov 24, 9:57 pm, Stratification stratificat...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds very much like what I'm seeing and would really explain its intermittent nature. Thanks for the update, here's to hoping there's a reasonable fix on the horizon (or Google gets their act together). Aaron On Nov 24, 11:59 am, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Some more info: It seems that people using the command line client, or other Subversion clients are also running into this problem (minus the modal dialogs of course). http://groups.google.com/group/google-code-hosting/browse_thread/thre.. Apparently Google Code is sending one of two SSL certificates back (at random) on every new connection to an https Google Code URL. One of these certs is signed by Thawte, one by Google themselves. Every time there's a mismatch between a previously accepted certificate for a particular URL and one that's being used on a new connection, SVN chokes and asks the user to accept the new certificate. Everything seems to point out that this is a problem with Google Code, not with Versions or Subversion in general. We're still looking for a workaround and ideally for a solution. Like Nick said, turning of working copy badges will help, because every time those are refreshed a new connection is made. It won't make the problem go away completely, but you'll see a lot fewer dialogs. Importing the *.googlecode.com certificate that Google signed themselves in your Keychain will not fix the problem, at least it doesn't for me; I still get the dialog asking me to accept the certificate, the difference is that the dialog claims the certificate is set to be trusted (which I just did in Keychain Access) instead of untrusted. If anyone here knows someone at or close to Google Code, please ask them to take a look at this thread. Any help we can get to clear this up would be appreciated. :) Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
Re: Problem: Google Code SSL certificates
Thank you all for the feedback, I think this problem may only happen to people who have authenticated google code projects set up as externals in other repositories that they've bookmarked. We'll investigate more over here, if any of you who are running into this problem don't have any google code externals defined, please drop us a line here. Thanks again, - Dirk the Versions team On Nov 20, 5:29 pm, HalfdanJ jo...@halfdanj.dk wrote: I have this problem aswell the last couple of days. I hope you can fix it soon! A little note, i'm on some different google code projects, and they act a little different. One is issued by Google Internet Authority, and it says with red letters that its signed by a unknown authority, and another one is signed by another authority.. Though i can't get it triggered right now, so can't see the exact name.. But anyways, love your app! Use it everyday! Jonas Jongejan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Problem: Google Code SSL certificates
Hi Jared, Thanks for the info. There seems to be a problem with Subversion and wildcard SSL certificates, which it seems Google has switched to for google code. We're looking into a way around this problem. That's a lot of it seemss in one sentence, but that's as much as we know right now. I'll follow up here as soon as we know more. - Dirk On Nov 20, 9:45 pm, jared jared.thomas.hender...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having this problem as well, and my google code project is not set up as external in another repository. Thanks for looking into this! On Nov 20, 2:48 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Thank you all for the feedback, I think this problem may only happen to people who have authenticated google code projects set up as externals in other repositories that they've bookmarked. We'll investigate more over here, if any of you who are running into this problem don't have any google code externals defined, please drop us a line here. Thanks again, - Dirk the Versions team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions unusable because too many crashes
Hi Tim, First of all, sorry for the trouble. Could you try entering the following command in a Terminal window, after navigating to your working copy? svn status -u Please let me know if you see anything abnormal in the output. Thanks, - Dirk the Versions team On Nov 19, 2:17 pm, tim timkna...@gmail.com wrote: I hope this might be of some help: I have the same annoying problem: Versions starts up, shows me the send recent crash reports? dialog Versions has crashed or was terminated abnormally 14 times in the recent past. Please send the anonymous crash reports to help us fix the problem(s). If there is a network connection, Versions crashes immediately and OSX tells me it wants to send a crash report to Apple. This issue first occurred after I did a rename command on a folder. After the rename, the original folder was still there and I had errors showing up when updating / committing the project. (don't remember exactly what the errors were.. something about the folder being unversioned) So I tried to delete this folder but Versions couldn't and force delete also didn't work. Then, I deleted the folder on my windows machine, (where I also have a working copy of this project) using Tortoise. After I did this, every time Versions starts up and has a network connection, it crashes immediately. I first fixed the problem by turning off my network connection, start Versions (no crash) and switch off Badges in preferences. Now, when I just click the bookmark with the rename / delete trouble, I notice Versions is trying to connect to the SVN server here on my local network, then crashes again! Which means that all my other bookmarks are OK (if Badges is unchecked) but this one particular bookmark is useless. SPECS: The repository for this bookmark is on a windows machine on my local network running svnserve 1.5.1 r32289. I use SVN without SSH to talk to it. versions 1.0.6 - Build 71 Snow Leopard 10.6.2 build 10C540 svn version 1.6.5 (r38866) I would love to provide more information if needed! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Problem: Google Code SSL certificates
Some people have reported that while Versions is running, they get an SSL certificate acceptance dialog over and over. For me and some other people in our team this has started happening yesterday evening, but only with the SSL cert. used by Google Code. If you are experiencing this same problem, or if you also have authenticated Google Code repository bookmarks in Versions, but aren't running into this problem, please drop us a line in this thread. We are investigating the problem, but would like your feedback to help figure out how high of a priority we should give to this problem. If only a couple of people are running into this problem, we'll look for a workaround first, if a lot of people are running into this issue, we may have to adjust our planning for what/when the next Versions update is going to be. Thanks! - Dirk the Versions team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MacTech: pitfalls of using Subversion with OS X(?)
Regarding bundle files, it's really surprising to me that not more developers safeguard the .svn folders in those during a save. We have one internal app that uses bundles for its file format (a localization tool) and I can't say it was all too hard to make sure the .svn folders are persisted between saves.. All that said, most apps don't check for those, so it's definitely a pitfall. I have seen some scripts online that restore .svn folders in bundle files, by renaming the modified file, copying the original over from the BASE revision of the file that's stored locally, and replacing the contents of the BASE copy with what's in the bundle. Tricky stuff. Personally I just avoid versioning bundle files. With regard to CR or LF line endings, you can set a property on text files to automatically convert them to the native type in working copies. To do this in Versions, select a file in the working copy Browse view, show the inspector, and set the popup under Line Breaks to Native. More info about this feature of Subversion is offered over here: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.5/svn.advanced.props.file-portability.html#svn.advanced.props.special.eol-style The Icon files are indeed a problem, although few people actually run into it. Versions doesn't do anything right now to work around this issue. We usually recommend people to add them to their list of globally ignored files in their .subversion/config file for now, but hope to have some kind of workaround implemented in Versions at some point. Another pitfall, but isolated to cross-platform environments is an issue that pops up here on the Versions google group every now and then, regarding non-ascii characters in file names. If you commit a file called Chêvre.txt on windows, check it out on a Mac and make changes to it there, SVN will see two Chêvre.txt files, a missing one, and an unversioned one. The cause of this problem (simplified explanation) is that Windows can encode these special characters in two different ways in a file name, both are seen as distinct from eachother by Subversion. Mac OS (or more precisely: HFS+) can accept file names with either encoding, but always stores them with only one encoding, the one that's not the default on Windows. The result is that the modified file looks like it's another file even though the human-readable file names are identical. Ocassionally you'll run into someone's workaround online for the problem, but I have yet to run into a really robust solution that'll work in all cases. Afaik. the Subversion community is still trying to figure out what the best 'real' solution for this problem is. The only real workaround for now is to delete the missing file and add the unversioned file, other platforms will respect the character encodings generated on the Mac. A final pitfall, but really an edge case, is that the version of OpenSSH bundles with Mac OS X has a problem with terminating ssh processes that are done with their task, they tend to linger around eating up system resources instead of properly terminating. But (if I remember correctly) you'll only run into that problem with Subversion 1.6.0 and 1.6.1 where the workaround in Subversion's code was temporarily ripped out. With the reservation that I may have forgotten something, these are the only notable Mac-specific pitfalls – beyond the ones you listed – with Subversion that I know to exist. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Nov 7, 2:05 am, Rob Rye rowen...@gmail.com wrote: I have a long and frustrating history with bundles and their interactions with subversion. The short answer is that Apple and the developers of subversion argued for years over how this problem should be solved. In the end, Apple abandoned the bundle structure in iWork '09 (though one can still choose that structure it is not the default). Also, OmniGroup used bundles for some of their applications (e.g. OmniOutliner), and then offered a save as flat file option to accommodate svn users. There are scripts out there for checking bundles into subversion. The makers of ZigVersion (a long-abandoned MacOS X GUI for subversion) probably still have one available for download, if you search their website for update_bundle.tar.gz However, it sounds like you wanted a GUI workaround. I am skeptical about anyone having come up with one, as their having done so might well have saved the bundle structure for iWork '09. On Nov 5, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Rob Lewis wrote: Forgive my talking over my head here; if it weren't for Versions I probably wouldn't be able to use Subversion at all. I happened to see an article in the January 2009 issue of MacTech magazine, called (Avoiding) Subversion Troubles on Mac OS X. It mentions a few possible pitfalls: --Invisible Icon files with a CR as the last character in the filename. It says they can corrupt the repository and must be ignored by svn. --NSDocument deletes
Re: Scandinavian characters in filenames breaking Versions Browser
Hi Samuli, I just wrote something about this exact problem in another thread: http://groups.google.com/group/versions/browse_thread/thread/331f6088197886f?hl=en In short, my suggestion to get stuff to work as expected is to delete the missing files and add the unversioned files (try it with one file first), the problem should not reoccur with the same files again.. I'm sorry for the hassle. We hope to implement a good solution for this problem in a future release of Versions. Sadly, the problem is pretty complex, in that, any possible solution – which really is a workaround a peculiarity of HFS+ – brings along problems of its own. It's been on the 'top annoying issues to fix' list for a while.. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Nov 6, 9:37 am, Slintone samuli.linto...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am using Versions 1.0.6 build 71. The problem is that after checking out a repository, all files with scandinavian characters in their names (ä, ö, å) are displayed immediately as missing/unversioned in the Versions' Browser tab. I have never had problems with scandinavian characters with any other Subversion client. We cannot avoid using these characters in our file names. Is this a known bug or am I doing something wrong? Our repository is hosted on Ubuntu Server 9.10. No problems whatsover with Windows/ TortoiseSVN or Linux/pySVN Workbench. This is very frustrating, since I just bough two Versions licences for learning purposes, and was wishing to buy a bunch more for the entire product development team. I need to know asap, if this can be fixed in Versions configuration or in the Ubuntu Server. If no resolution is present in the near future, we have to start looking for an alternative Mac OS SVN client. regards Samuli Lintonen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need for a Versions Setup Tutorial?
Hi John, Thanks for making and posting that, those videos are great. We have a page in the Versions in-app Help where we link to some online resources for more info about SVN in general and Versions in particular. Can I include a link to your site in there? (and if you're cool with that, please let me know which URL would work best) Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On Nov 2, 11:29 pm, jrock2004 jrock2...@gmail.com wrote: This video is still uploading but you can view one here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atBn7xcDa1g I hope this helps On Oct 28, 5:57 am, katu...@googlemail.com katu...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Guys Versions looks great and I need to use it. I get the basic idea behind subversion, working copies and committing. But when I come to use the Versions I have no clue how to set it up with an existing site ect. There is support documentation but it isn't helpful for the beginner, it assumes too much. Can someone do a quick tutorial on the basics, even a video tutorial? What is versions looking for when I need to set it up with a site? Cheers Dan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions unusable because too many crashes
Hi Guiseppe, I'm sorry for those crashes. When you get a crash report, is Versions actually still running in the background, or does Versions really crash when it shows a crash report dialog? The 'ghost' crash report dialogs are a known issue that are isolated to svn+ssh connections. We are working on a solution for that. If Versions actually crashes when the crash report is shown, you may have run into a new, as of yet unknown issue. If that's the case, please send any crash logs you have to versi...@versionsapp.com so we can research the problem. Thanks, - Dirk the Versions team On Oct 31, 2:28 am, Giuseppe Taibi g...@giuseppetaibi.com wrote: Everything was fine until today. Now versions crashes and crashes and crashes just after start. I must have tried no less than 50 (fifty!) times with the same result. The only way to put a stop to the crashing was to uncheck the badge option in the settings. Eagerly waiting for an upgrade that fixes this as badges are very useful. I am running Snow Leopard 10.6.1 and Versions 10.6 build 71. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 1.0.6 Crashing Constantly
Hi guys, This issue is isolated to svn+ssh and occurs on both Leopard and Snow Leopard (and probably also on Tiger), it is actively being worked on. Somehow this problem has turned out to be very hard to fix, there are a lot of different components involved that play a role, including lib_apr and the version of OpenSSH that ships with Mac OS X. We are doing our best, but due to the complexity of the problem we can't give anywhere close to an accurate ETA until it's actually fixed. Some people with only a handful of bookmarks get those crash dialogs every couple of seconds, some people with dozens of svn+ssh bookmarks only see them occasionally or not at all. If you keep getting those dialogs, switching off the working copy changes badges is a functional workaround to reduce their frequency, but any activity over svn+ssh can trigger this issue, so even with that option off, you may still get the occasional annoying crash dialog (with Versions still running in the background). We realize that a workaround is not a solution, but that's all we have until the problem is fixed. Thanks for your patience :) - Dirk the Versions team On Oct 23, 7:19 pm, RTMFD iba...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seeing this crash as well - I've been seeing it during the 10.6 betas too. Seems that svn is attempting to fork at some point in the libraries, which is a no-no in CoreFoundation (and therefore AppKit/ Foundation) land. - Ian Baird On Oct 11, 12:21 am, Rafa email.r...@gmail.com wrote: Same issue here with svn+ssh bookmarks. The workaround that gary suggests did the trick for me. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Error 210002
Hi Christopher, Error 210002 is a connection error (as you probably might have guessed), we are working to improve error reporting in Versions for these errors. Can you try removing the trailing colon from the host-name part of your URL? So instead of: svn+ssh://hea...@www.heavymark.com:/home/etcetera, use: svn+ssh://hea...@www.heavymark.com/home/etcetera Thanks, - Dirk the Versions team On Oct 13, 7:12 am, Christopher Beckwith heavyma...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have Site5 for hosting and have spent over 4 hours working with them attempting to connect to my repository. I created it in terminal appropriately, and created a rsa key which is in my home directory and in the .ssh folder in my home directory as instructed. When connecting in ssh I can commit but in versions on snow leopard with firewall turned off, I type in a title for the url I enter: svn+ssh://hea...@www.heavymark.com:/home/heavym/svn/project And I enter my user name heavym And no password since I'm using rsa. And each time I get An unknown subversion error occured. (code = 210002) The only thing on Google Groups with that error were in regards to having the firewall turned on on a mac server which I am not using. I would like to purchase this software before the trial ends but of course only if I can get it to work. Thanks so much in advance! Christopher Beckwith --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Error 210002
Hi all, As discussed with Christopher, I've removed the original messages from the group because they contained a real hostname. The original discussion is quoted below with a redacted hostname. - Dirk the Versions team On Oct 13, 1:52 pm, Christopher Beckwith heavyma...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, actually initially I didn't have the colon, but still does not work. Also the svn/project folder is directly above the public_html directory, not a sub directory, which is why I imagine the colon or something is needed. I'm not sure if their is a log in my console or something that would help narrow this down. Thank you! Christopher On Oct 13, 5:14 am, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi Christopher, Error 210002 is a connection error (as you probably might have guessed), we are working to improve error reporting in Versions for these errors. Can you try removing the trailing colon from the host-name part of your URL? So instead of: svn+ssh://hea...@www.example.com:/home/etcetera, use: svn+ssh://hea...@www.example.com/home/etcetera Thanks, - Dirk the Versions team On Oct 13, 7:12 am, Christopher Beckwith heavyma...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have Site5 for hosting and have spent over 4 hours working with them attempting to connect to my repository. I created it in terminal appropriately, and created a rsa key which is in my home directory and in the .ssh folder in my home directory as instructed. When connecting in ssh I can commit but in versions on snow leopard with firewall turned off, I type in a title for the url I enter: svn+ssh://hea...@www.example.com:/home/heavym/svn/project And I enter my user name heavym And no password since I'm using rsa. And each time I get An unknown subversion error occured. (code = 210002) The only thing on Google Groups with that error were in regards to having the firewall turned on on a mac server which I am not using. I would like to purchase this software before the trial ends but of course only if I can get it to work. Thanks so much in advance! Christopher Beckwith --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 1.0.6 Crashing Constantly
Hi Michael, Thanks for the bug report, Did you have this same issue with Versions 1.0.5? Cheers, - Dirk On Oct 2, 10:34 pm, mupdegraff michael.updegr...@gmail.com wrote: Running OS with K64 64 Bit enabled Process: Versions [22349] Path: /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/Versions Identifier: Versions Version: ??? (???) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: Versions [22297] Date/Time: 2009-10-02 13:30:01.388 -0700 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.1 (10B504) Report Version: 6 Interval Since Last Report: 9548 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 10 Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 10 Anonymous UUID: 7058AACF- A187-4457-8834-9CA7E139AB6D Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS) Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x003e Crashed Thread: 0 Application Specific Information: *** multi-threaded process forked *** Thread 0 Crashed: 0 ??? 0x003e 0 + 62 1 libapr.dylib 0x002db446 cleanup_pool_for_exec + 20 2 libapr.dylib 0x002db45c cleanup_pool_for_exec + 42 3 libapr.dylib 0x002db48a apr_pool_cleanup_for_exec + 29 4 libapr.dylib 0x002e6eb1 apr_proc_create + 425 5 libsvn_ra_svn.dylib 0x007ba04a make_tunnel + 391 6 libsvn_ra_svn.dylib 0x007ba2ce open_session + 267 7 libsvn_ra_svn.dylib 0x007ba8eb ra_svn_open + 402 8 libsvn_ra.dylib 0x002f7cfd svn_ra_open3 + 2089 9 libsvn_client.dylib 0x007950d5 svn_client__open_ra_session_internal + 552 10 libsvn_client.dylib 0x00799573 reporter_finish_report + 127 11 libsvn_wc.dylib 0x12b51836 svn_wc_crawl_revisions4 + 1590 12 libsvn_client.dylib 0x00799d69 svn_client_status4 + 1699 13 libsvn_client.dylib 0x00774de3 svn_client_status3 + 137 14 libsvn_client.dylib 0x00774e65 svn_client_status2 + 124 15 com.picodev.SA165 0x00707fb0 EZSEnsureAPRAndSVNLibsInitialization + 24021 16 com.picodev.SA165 0x00707888 EZSEnsureAPRAndSVNLibsInitialization + 22189 17 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9261a2cd __invoking___ + 29 18 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9261a238 -[NSInvocation invoke] + 136 19 com.picodev.SA165 0x0070af08 EZSEnsureAPRAndSVNLibsInitialization + 36141 20 com.apple.Foundation 0x991d4964 -[NSThread main] + 45 21 com.apple.Foundation 0x991d4914 __NSThread__main__ + 1499 22 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95d0af39 _pthread_start + 345 23 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95d0adbe thread_start + 34 Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit): eax: 0xedc8edda ebx: 0x002db479 ecx: 0x95e40d0c edx: 0x003e edi: 0x002f9c65 esi: 0x01584ce0 ebp: 0xb018c858 esp: 0xb018c82c ss: 0x0023 efl: 0x00010202 eip: 0x003e cs: 0x001b ds: 0x0023 es: 0x0023 fs: 0x0023 gs: 0x000f cr2: 0x003e Binary Images: 0x1000 - 0xe0fe7 +com.picodev.Versions 1.0.6 (71) F9574A40- AC71-E697-AB9A-BDFD52704CA3 /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/ Versions 0xfa000 - 0x106ff7 +org.andymatuschak.Sparkle ??? (1.1) / Applications/Versions.app/Contents/Frameworks/Sparkle.framework/ Versions/A/Sparkle 0x111000 - 0x1c6fe7 libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib ??? (???) 4917E4F2-817F-5AC4-3FBE-54BC96360448 /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib 0x251000 - 0x253ffc +libsvn_fs.dylib ??? (???) 111E9C19- EA84-8622-6E22-9F41996D4231 /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/ SA165.bundle/Contents/lib/libsvn_fs.dylib 0x2cb000 - 0x2e9fef +libapr.dylib ??? (???) 8C8299CF-F60A-5887- F32E-4AC71ADBA31E /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/ SA165.bundle/Contents/lib/libapr.dylib 0x2f4000 - 0x2f9ffe +libsvn_ra.dylib ??? (???) 141FC3E8-4198- A334-932A-83BEA19DCF47 /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/ SA165.bundle/Contents/lib/libsvn_ra.dylib 0x70 - 0x727ff7 +com.picodev.SA165 ??? (1.0) E1F346D7-6820-2E84-0137-3250D2E2E3BB /Applications/Versions.app/ Contents/MacOS/SA165.bundle/Contents/MacOS/SA165 0x73c000 - 0x756fff +libneon.dylib ??? (???) 29AAB42C-661F-DDBD- CC4A-C358C3593BE5 /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/ SA165.bundle/Contents/lib/libneon.dylib 0x76 - 0x79efff +libsvn_client.dylib ??? (???) 9545293A-CD8C- C5C7-2EBE-E19CEBC31463 /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/ SA165.bundle/Contents/lib/libsvn_client.dylib 0x7aa000 - 0x7b3ffe +libsvn_diff.dylib ??? (???) 44857756-48AF- F2B0-74FC-6358405F44DE /Applications/Versions.app/Contents/MacOS/ SA165.bundle/Contents/lib/libsvn_diff.dylib 0x7b8000 - 0x7c9ff4 +libsvn_ra_svn.dylib ??? (???) 78B2A8AC-024F-77BA-1608-8B5BE2C62C71
Versions 1.0.6 out now
Hi all, It took us a bit longer than expected, but Versions 1.0.6 is out now. Thank you all for your patience, especially Gary, Jeremy and everyone else who was affected by the high CPU-usage problem introduced in 1.0.5. Tracking down this issue was complicated and took more engineering hours than we'd hoped. Consequentially, the release notes of 1.0.6 don't have a lot of bullet points on them., but we didn't want to wait any longer to get a release out that takes care of this critical bug. For those interested in more details: The root cause of this issue is still hiding somewhere deep down in the bowels of lib-apr or closely related code. We have been working with some very helpful Subversion contributors to find out more. This same issue is also the cause of those false crash reports that some of you have seen popping up every now and then, when Versions is still happily spinning along. Versions 1.0.6 does not 'fix' it, but works around it. We've made some progress in finding an actual solution – instead of a workaround – but getting there is going to take us a bit more research still. The release notes can, as usual, be found in your Sparkle feeds and over here: http://versionsapp.com/releasenotes Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Custom Diff Script
Open up the in-app help and search for Custom, a page called Custom comparison scripts will be in the results. Welcome to the group :) - Dirk the Versions team On Sep 23, 11:20 pm, binarymelon r...@binarymelon.com wrote: Can someone either give me some directions here or point me to some directions about using custom diff scripts. I have no idea where to put them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: License Code Not Working
Hi LRobeson, I can't find any license keys under the email address you posted from to the group. If you drop us an email at vers...@madebysofa.com from the address you used to purchase your copy, we'll get this sorted right away. Thanks, - Dirk the Versions team On Sep 18, 6:15 pm, LRobeson lrobe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to register my copy of Versions and the license key isn't working. I've copied and pasted it straight from the email, I tried removing the spaces and dashes, etc. nothing is working. Is there some trick I'm missing? Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Versions 1.0.6 coming
Hi all, We've tracked down the cause of the following issue that some of you are running into with Versions 1.0.5: - Really high CPU usage in one or more background processes, also named Versions. We will release Versions 1.0.6 soon to take care of this problem. Because this issue was our highest priority, was pretty hard to track down, and we want to get the fix in everyone's hands asap, this one fix will be the only difference between 1.0.6 and 1.0.5. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Little trick to compare Word files
For those of you who have Word files under Version control, this might be of interest, I've just whipped up a little comparison script that tries to use Word's native comparison features when you're trying to compare difference on a Word file from Versions. This will most likely only work woth Word 2008, and will definitely not work on anything before Leopard (because it uses PyObjC). Tip of the hat to Brian, who told me such a feature existed in the first place. You'll find the script in the Files seciton of the group, it's called Automatic.py. Simply download and install in ~/Library/Application Support/Versions/Compare Scripts/ and you can choose it from Versions' preferences. It defaults to FileMerge when it can't find a better suited app to handle the comparison. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team PS: Not tested very extensively, might not work for you at all, but thought I'd share it in case anyone here also puts their Word files in SVN (I do). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: SVN command-line tools stuck at 1.4.4
Quite a while ago, when we first shipped Versions with SVN 1.5 support, I made a little postflight script for the CollabNet SVN installers for Mac OS X that adds the newly installed command line tools to your path variable automatically, for a bunch of different shells. For mysterious reasons it never made it into the CollabNet installers, but I've uploaded it to the Files section here for anyone who wants to adapt or use it. http://groups.google.com/group/versions/web/postflight-svn-cli-pathvars.sh - Dirk the Versions team On Sep 11, 12:03 am, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: Even thought the newer tools may be installed, when you specify only svn in Terminal, it uses the first matching executable it finds, which is /usr/bin/svn on Leopard. If you want to use a newer version on Leopard, the simplest way is to specify the full path to the executable (/opt/subversion/bin/svn) or modify your $PATH variable to put /opt/subversion/bin at the front of your path: export PATH=/opt/subversion/bin:$PATH If you want this to happen automatically each time you open a Terminal window, put that line in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile file. This approach will affect anything that uses the binary, but other tools (like Xcode) that use the SVN libraries in /usr/lib will require more drastic changes. If you can (not on PPC), upgrade to Snow Leopard — it has SVN 1.6.2 built-in. - Quinn On Sep 10, 2009, at 2:50 PM, k9d wrote: Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my command line tools to version 1.6.5 under OSX but even after I install the Collabnet binaries for 1.6.5 from http://svnbinaries.open.collab.net/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folde... Versions still reports that I have commandline tools 1.4.4 Any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Jordan smime.p7s 3KViewDownload --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.5 not behaving well
Hi everyone, Just a quick heads up to let you all know we're aware of the high-cpu usage issues and are investigating them. Sorry for the trouble, we understand that for an app like Versions that you're likely to keep running in the background all day, high CPU usage can get pretty annoying pretty quickly (Especially when your laptop battery is as worn out as mine ;-) ). The issues we are looking into right now: - Very high CPU usage in the background without any clear cause - Stray 'Versions' child processes that use a lot of CPU and can stay alive after Versions.app has quit These problems can occur both on Leopard and Snow Leopard, are new in Versions 1.0.5 and seem related to the new SVN 1.6.5 library, but we're not sure at all yet whether the root cause is in SVN 1.6.5's or Versions' code. If you run into one of these issues and have the Xcode developer tools installed, you can help us track the problem down by followint these steps: - Launch Instruments.app - Choose the CPU Sampler template, - Use the Default Target toolbar item to attach to the CPU-hungry Versions process and record a sample (10-20 seconds is more than enough). - Save the sample and email it to versi...@madebysofa.com with the subject Versions high-CPU Sample - Please tell us in the email which SVN library you have selected in Versions' Preferences - Don't forget to mention which OS X release you're on, or even better, include a System Profile (saved with System Profiler.app) - Accept our eternal gratitude :) We'll let you all know as we find out more. Thanks for your patience :) - Dirk the Versions team PS: Regarding the intense amount of logging that Versions can do from time to time: No worthy mechs found, killed by signal 15, etc., thanks to some pointers from Jeremy at CollabNet, we know what's causing the first one (SASL-related, specifically a problem with the SASL implementation included in the Tiger and Leopard SDKs), the second one has something to do with svn+ssh specifically, we're still tracking down what to do about that one exactly. On Sep 9, 9:25 am, Rolf Schmolling M.A. rolf.schmoll...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, Versions does behave on my system quite well: MBP C2D 2.33 GH 3 GB RAM, German 10.6 Regards, Rolf Am 09.09.2009 um 02:30 schrieb Kevin Powick: I notice my laptop getting hot, then notice that Versions is eating TONS of CPU in Activity Monitor (actually I use iStat Menus 2.0). iStat Menus are such an awesome product (free too!). I have it for exactly this reason. It lets you know when something isn't quite right with your system. A pegged CPU will skyrocket the system temperature very fast. smcFanControl is a nice complement to iStatMenus. Not sure about SL compatibility. I have the DVD, but not made the upgrade as of yet. May wait for 10.6.x before I do. -- Kevin Powick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Unversion
Hi Max, Can you maybe clarify your question a bit? Do you want to make particular files in a working copy unversioned or do you need an entire unversioned copy of your working copy? Thanks, - Dirk On Sep 7, 8:30 am, maxpax tomth...@googlemail.com wrote: Just a quick simple question that for some reason I can't find the answer to! How do you unversion a working copy in versions?? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ignore this file - option always greyed out
On Sep 3, 11:02 am, Kez circle...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/09/2009, at 10:34 AM, Frederick wrote: I can't figure out how to get Versions to ignore a file called configuration.php. When I right-click the file, the option to Ignore configuration.php is greyed out. When I click the containing folder and add an ignore statement in there like *.php, or configuration.php, the file still appears with the pencil next to it. Sounds like its already been committed to the Repository, in which case it is being monitored for changes and so cannot be ignored. Ignore is used for files that change but are not neccessary like build files which change regularly but are not required to recreate the project if something weird happens. does the configuration.php file get changed regularly? ie is it built dynamically from a script or make file etc? if so you can delete it from the repository and when versions shows it again with a question mark against it you can then ignore it. You may need to checkout your project again after the deletion to make your working copy reflect your repo. I think this is right and please correct me if there is a better method. Thoughts Quinn? ( you seem to be the guy to ask about svn things ;) HTH Kieren Hi Kieren, That's completely correct, so step-by-step it comes down to: 1. Select configuration.php in Versions Browse view and 'Delete' 2. Hit commit to actually delete the file from the Repository 3. Re-create the file 4. Go back to Versions, and right/control-click the new configuration.php and select 'Ignore configuration.php' 5. Select the folder that contains configuration.php (the ignore property is actually set on the folder, not the file) 6. Commit again 7. Good riddance Cheers, - Dirk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Stuck updating to 1.0.5 - Installing update... / Quitting Versions...
Yeah, it's exactly that same issue. Regarding which transactions Versions was waiting for: my guess is that those were background transactions to update the badges in the Bookmarks list. We investigate this issue a bit more so hopefully we'll all see that Waiting for transactions to finish... dialog a lot less of in future updates :) - Dirk On Sep 3, 12:18 am, mweil marc.w...@gmail.com wrote: Is this the same issue I reported this morning? =P On Sep 2, 10:17 am, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi everyone, There's a known issue with updating to the new release. Sadly it's something in Versions 1.0.4 that's causing this, so we can't fix it by replacing the 1.0.5 download. If you see this after hitting 'Update': http://files.madebysofa.com/public/etc/dialogsgalore.png Just force quit Versions, and it will relaunch as 1.0.5, no harm done. Thanks, - Dirk the Versions team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Connection Error trying to register
Hi Dan, First of all, sorry for the hassle. There aren't any new known issues with registration in 1.0.5, although there is a known problem when the License file (in ~/Application Support/Versions) is stored on a disk image. Are you by any chance using FileVault? The connection error is most likely a temporary thing and our registration server seems a bit slow today, so it could have been caused by a timeout. Can you try registering again in a little bit and let me know if you continue to get the connection error? Thanks, - Dirk the Versions team On Sep 3, 2:20 pm, Dan ninjafo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I just installed the new update, and now it is telling me that my demo has expired and I need to buy versions. Except i already bought and registered it months ago... I tried putting in my registration details, but I keep getting a connection error dialog. screenie: http://emberapp.com/danayel/images/versions-1 love Versions by the way. Best subversion app I have ever used. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Specify Custom Diff Apps Per File Extension?
This is possible if you write a custom comparison script. Take a look at the script called Changes + conversion.py in the Files section of this group as an example. That particular script pre- processes .doc files, but lets everything else through normally. You can make something similar to open different file types with different apps. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On Sep 2, 8:48 am, BP halep...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to get specific apps to launch based on file extension when doing a compare? The app itself doesn't have to be a diff app but I would like it to open both revisions of the file of interest. For example I'd want MS Word to open 2 revisions when comparing a .doc file or Adobe Reader to open the 2 revisions of a .pdf file, etc. Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: GIT Support
Hi sdepold, There will definitely be a next version of Versions — what's in a name ;) However, such a next version of Versions will not support GIT. Please see the following thread for a recent discussion about this topic: http://groups.google.com/group/versions/browse_thread/thread/1f66be9b454a1625/ Summarized: We think that GIT is so different from SVN that supporting both in the same app would result in a hard to understand and difficult to use application. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Sep 2, 12:17 pm, sdepold sas...@depold.com wrote: Hey folks, much time went by til the last update. Maybe you could intergrate git support for the next (will there be a next verison...?) of versions. greetings sdepold --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Stuck updating to 1.0.5 - Installing update... / Quitting Versions...
Hi everyone, There's a known issue with updating to the new release. Sadly it's something in Versions 1.0.4 that's causing this, so we can't fix it by replacing the 1.0.5 download. If you see this after hitting 'Update': http://files.madebysofa.com/public/etc/dialogsgalore.png Just force quit Versions, and it will relaunch as 1.0.5, no harm done. Thanks, - Dirk the Versions team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: global ignore
Hi digartner, These so-called global ignore settings are stored in a special Subversion configuration file that's shared by all Subversion client applications on your computer. You can find it in the hidden .subversion folder that lives in your home directory, the easiest way to access it is by opening a Terminal window and running the command: open .subversion That should open the folder in Finder, you can then edit the config file that's in there with your text editor of choice (TextEdit will do). Search for a line that starts with global-ignores = , there's a good chance that this line is commented out (which it is by default), in which case Subversion uses its default set of file patterns to ignore, in Subversion 1.5 this default set is: *.o *.lo *.la #*# .*.rej *.rej .*~ *~ .#* .DS_Store In Subversion 1.6 the default set of global-ignores: *.o *.lo *.la *.al .libs *.so *.so.[0-9]* *.a *.pyc *.pyo *.rej *~ #*# .#* .*.swp .DS_Store (Basically it should be the same as what's behind global-ignores = in the commented version of that line) If you remove the #, and change the line by removing the patterns that match with files that you don't want to ignore, and then save the file, Versions should pick up your files as expected (no need to Quit and relaunch the app). Sorry for the hassle and the lack of documentation on this topic. We hope to offer a UI to modify these global ignore settings from within Versions in a future update. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Aug 31, 10:29 pm, digartner tropicals...@gmail.com wrote: Some files are being suspiciously ignored by Versions. I've looked at the ignore properties for all of the containing folders, and I don't see anything suspicious. When I look at the Inspector Properties for the files, there's a message that says To stop ignoring this item, remove it from the ignore properties of its containing folder or the global ignore settings. I can't find any documentation whatsoever describing where the global ignore settings are listed. Help! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External mere applications allowed in versions?
Hi Rob, See this page: http://versionsapp.com/viewdocpage/versions_wf_comp_customscripts.html And the files section of this google group for an idea on how to integrate another app for comparisons. If what you're planning on using is at least modestly popular, chances are someone else already created a script for it and uploaded it here. Cheers, - Dirk On Aug 26, 3:51 am, Rob Segal r9se...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway to add your own custom diff/merge application for use with versions? Seems in the preferences only specific applications are being listed (TextWrangler, AraxisMerge, etc.). I've got kDiff installed which I would like to use as an alternative. Is this possible? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Merging Branches Into Trunk
Hi Matt, Branching and copying are supported, merging is not. To branch or copy, simply hold down the option key on your keyboard while you drag a folder in the Repository Browse view. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Aug 27, 11:05 pm, Matt Williamson dawsdes...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. I paid $50 for this app and it doesn't even support branching?! Not even copying?! I want my money back. Back to the CLI... On Aug 4, 1:47 pm, Kevin korb.ke...@gmail.com wrote: I found documentation on how to create mybranch, however now I want to merge mybranchinto my trunk, or merge changes from my trunk to abranch. Is there a way to do this in Versions? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Job opening at Sofa - Versions support and more
This vacancy has been filled. :) Our newest addition to the team starts at the end of August. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Jun 20, 5:50 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi all, Since this google group is where all experts on Versions gather, I thought I'd let you all know we've just posted a job opening at Sofa for a full-time Support and QA person : http://www.madebysofa.com/jobs The job will be part Versions support, part authoring of documentation, and basically everything related to improving the quality of Versions and our other products. Thanks! - Dirk the Versions team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: lost licence key
Hi Arnold, I just resent your license, if you don't see it in your inbox, please check any junk mail folders you may have. If you ever lose it again, you can always enter your email address in the Lost your license? box at the bottom of www.versionsapp.com/support to get it again. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Jul 8, 5:02 pm, arsyk arnold.syko...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All, i did something stupid. I didn't save my licence key. Ich changed my mac to a new MacBook Pro. But with the transfered data the licence-key from versions is lost. (No i don't how the f*** that happend) but i also realised that now Google i deleting Mails that ware marked als spam after a period of time. That key must be marked. So here is a question: May you resend my key? I bought it by PayPal from this mailaddress. That would be kind. Thank you, Arnold --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: license key
Hi Kilian, I've just sent you your license key in a private email. There was a problem with our registration server, causing your payment to never get registered properly in it. Sorry again for the long wait. Thanks for your understanding, - Dirk the Versions team On Jul 7, 7:26 pm, Kilian C. chilian.ciuff...@gmail.com wrote: the email address i used was amministrazi...@1mas.it Alberto Odorici, my chef. I bought it for my web agency. On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi Kilian, I'm very sorry about that. I can't find any Versions licenses bought using the email address you used to post this message, can you send me an email from the email address you used to buy Versions so I can figure out what your license code is and get it in your hands asap? Thanks! - Dirk the Versions team On Jul 6, 12:14 pm, kilian chilian.ciuff...@gmail.com wrote: hi, i bought versions, bau i'm still waiting for the serial... 1 month elapsed and the trial period too I WANT TO USE MY APP! i wrote about ten mail... and noone answered me! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disable auto syncing with repo
The way to do this right now, is to group several bookmarks in a folder and collapse it in the bookmarks list. Any indicators that aren't visible will not be updated. This may seem convoluted, since many people will want to organize their bookmarks by category (like e.g. applications, frameworks and websites) and not by groups of repositories that belong to one catgory of work they do. A major drawback of offering an active/inactive-toggle per bookmark is that it adds an additional layer of administrative work to dealing with bookmarks that (I think) most Versions users don't need. It's easy to forget that which bookmarks are active, so we would have to indicate their active/inactive status in the bookmarks list itself (one idea: by graying out the icons when inactive. another one: do something similar to what Mail.app does to indicate an account is offline, but that's way too much clutter imho.). Regardless of what kind of indication we go for, this feature will require us to add some extra visual clutter to the bookmarks list. All that being said, we'll look into this. :) Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On Jun 25, 11:06 am, Alberto Ganesh Barbati albertobarb...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on that On 25 Giu, 00:49, asidden asid...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! Is there any way to make Versions temporary disable auto connection to the specified bookmark? I have several bookmarks for different repos and when i launch Versions.app - all of that are connected, even the ones i haven't used for a long time. Probably this will be a good idea to add active/non- active states for bookmarks? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: FileMerge not found
Hi Jean-Christophe, Can you check in a terminal window if the opendiff command can be found? running: which opendiff should show you where it is installed. Versions looks for opendiff in /usr/bin/opendiff and uses that command to launch FileMerge. If you have it installed in a different location (maybe because you only have the iPhone SDK installed and not the Mac toolchain as well? just guessing), please let me know so we can address that in a future update to Versions. Thanks! - Dirk the Versions team On Jun 22, 2:54 pm, amieljc jeanchristopheam...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've the following error when trying to use command 'Compare' in Versions. The FileMerge application could not be located. Please install Xcode Tools from the Apple Developer website. In a terminal window, xcode-select -print-path point to the right location (which is for me /Developer/iPhoneSDK 3.0) and FileMerge can be found under '/Developer/iPhoneSDK 3.0/Applications/ Utilities'... Any hint how to use FileMerge with Versions ? Regards, Jean-Christophe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ask for informations before buying Versions
Hi Franck, To answer your questions: 1: It is possible to use Versions without an internet connection, to do so, go to the View menu and make sure that the option Show Updates from Repository is unchecked. You'll then be able to browse working copies normally, as well as compare the current version of a file against the BASE revision, using the Local Changes toolbar item. 2: You can use a Versions license either on one computer used by multiple people, or on (a reasonable amount of) multiple computers used by one person. Two computers per person won't be a problem. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On Jun 21, 9:18 pm, Franck franck.lepe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I tried Versions and plan to buy it for my team. Nevertheless, I have to questions before buying it : [1] It seems it is required to be logged on the internet to be able to use Versions ? Sometimes, I may wish to compare my working copy (that I modified) with the Base version (the one downloaded from the repository). Such action should not require to be logged on the internet ? So, did I miss something ? Up to now, without beeing on the internet, I have the message : PROFIND request failed on ... [2] We plan to buy licences of Versions for all the members of my team in the laboratory. But, all of us have two computers (desktop and a laptop), should we buy one licence for computer or do you do the same offer than Cornerstone, allowing users to install the software on 2 computers ? Best regards Franck --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Job opening at Sofa - Versions support and more
Hi all, Since this google group is where all experts on Versions gather, I thought I'd let you all know we've just posted a job opening at Sofa for a full-time Support and QA person : http://www.madebysofa.com/jobs The job will be part Versions support, part authoring of documentation, and basically everything related to improving the quality of Versions and our other products. Thanks! - Dirk the Versions team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Warning: Nonexistant Support
Hey Zawie, My comments inline below: On Jun 17, 5:26 pm, zawie zaw...@bowfort.com wrote: Hi, Our entire team was in San Francisco for WWDC. As a consequence, our shared task of getting back to support emails quickly slipped through a bit. I don't think is the reason, because the first time I emailed you was a few weeks before WWDC and had no response back then either. Please see my comment over here: http://groups.google.com/group/versions/browse_thread/thread/1997eb978c1d0f3d?hl=en I'll take this rare opportunity to quote myself: Sofa is also looking for a full-time support/QA person Without delittling your opinion, I do think I have: - given some insight in a key reason for why you may have had a bad support experience, - expressed my public apologies for the whole bad experience, - indicated that we acknowledge there's a bigger problem than just us all being at WWDC, - shown that we are taking very serious steps (hiring an additional full-time employee) to improve support in the long run. Besides, I was at WWDC too, and I know it's busy, I have over 300,000 customers but still I support them during WWDC and there's just one of me. I was hoping to bump into you there to tell you about your support. Unfortunately I had to miss the ADA, congrats by the way. Thanks. I would have loved to meet you there and talk. Although it's sad we didn't meet, I don't think that publicly one-upping eachother on how much support work we do is going to fix anything. Although on a plus point, if you raise your comments on the forum where everybody else can see the reply, we seem to get responses. I'm glad we got a plus somewhere, even if it is a somewhat dubious one. ;) So here goes: 1. When choosing compare to compare differences, it would be nice to have a preference where it just defaults to compare the current version to the head, so you can see what's changed when checking in each time, rather than having to click twice, once to see what you wish to compare against and once to do the compare. Something like a Compare Defaults To Head checkbox. There's a default button in the toolbar, labeled Local Changes, it compares the current version of a file in the working copy against the HEAD revision of that file. You can also find it under the Action menu, under Show Local Changes. This feature is described in the Versions Help documentation, when you search the help for compare it's in the very first page that comes up in the results. Also mirrored here: http://versionsapp.com/viewdocpage/versions_wf_comp_basics.html 2. There are only a few choices for diff software. For example, at WWDC they were touting DeltaWalker. It would be nice to have the diff mechanism more open. Perhaps a plist we can alter that allows us to specify the diff software we would like to use and it's calling setup. We have an open plugin architecture for that, although 'plugin' and 'architecture' are both overly big words to describe what it entails (used here for lack of better terms coming to mind right now). See the page at http://groups.google.com/group/versions/files for several examples contributed by various people, a script (there's that word) for Delta Walker, contributed by Lukas, another member of this group, is in there. This feature is also documented in the Versions Help, along with a how-to on using these scripts. Also mirrored here: http://versionsapp.com/viewdocpage/versions_wf_comp_customscripts.html 3. Paypal. Although many people use it, most companies with reasonable sales have another option. The reason is that paypal does not work with many corporate credit cards (e.g. Amex) and international cards. For example, I wanted to purchase versions for my personal use and the university. The university credit card isn't being accepted by paypal, so you lose that sale. I'm sorry you've had issues using Paypal. There are definitely drawbacks to Paypal, but it works very well for most of our sales, not just for us, but for our customers as well. For people who can't or prefer not to pay with Paypal we can offer alternative payment options when they email us with their request. Overall, I get the impression you are pretty unhappy about your experiences with us so far, which makes me unhappy in turn. We put as much attention as we do in our software because we care about how people experience it, and good, timely support is a part of that experience. I am sorry we let you down. I do hope you'll give us a chance to do better in the future, and if not, I understand. However, some of our best people are answering support emails right now, therefore I'm changing the 'Discussion subject' of this thread back to Support Issues, which I believe is a more accurate and fair headline than WARNING: Non Existant Support. Feel free to change it again if you decide to reply, although at some point, when everything has been said, I may close this topic. If you'd like to
Re: bbedit 8 support?
Hi Mark, If you download the BBEdit.py script from over here: http://groups.google.com/group/versions/files And copy it to the the following location in your home folder: Library/Application Support/Versions/Compare Scripts/ You should be able to select it in the preferences instead of the built-in BBEdit support. This script works properly with BBEdit 8.7.2 (only on Leopard though), but not with the latest releases of BBEdit. Cheers, - Dirk the Versions team On May 27, 7:12 pm, mark12b mark...@gmail.com wrote: i updated to versions 1.0.4 and now file comparison isn't working when i have bbedit selected. it was working just fine before the update... i'm running 8.7.2 (i own bbedit 9 but hate it so i am stuck with version 8 for the foreseeable future). fwiw textwrangler still works ok for file comparison, and i guess if i had to i could switch to that as i do;'t really use any of bbedit's paid features anyway, but i'd rather avoid re-creating all my preferences and whatnot over in textwrangler. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Export Bookmarks
Nope, the Bookmarks.plist does not contain passwords. Those are stored – securely – in the Keychain exclusively. It does however contain the username you set up for each bookmark (and details like whether bookmark folders were collapsed or expanded the last time you ran Versions), so the easiest scenario would be: • Create repository bookmarks exclusively • Optionally file them in groups • Set them up with a bug tracker URL if you have one (als stored in Bookmarks.plist) • Copy the Bookmarks.plist file over • Instruct your peers to double-click every individual bookmark to change the username and enter their password. If you want to know more, have a peek at the file with Apple's Property List Editor (part of the Xcode developer tools), you'll see that the file's structured exactly like the bookmarks list in Versions, you'll likely be able to guess what most things are for. Cheers, - Dirk On May 28, 5:42 pm, Matthew Velie matthewve...@gmail.com wrote: Does the plist contain the password too? Each user has their own username, so I'd rather not have them get my password. Username would be fine because they can easily change that. I'm just afraid with the password it would just work so they wouldn't go change it. On May 28, 11:24 am, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi Matthew, There's no 'export' option in Versions yet, we're hoping to add that some time in the future. But, you can export your Bookmarks manually. There's a file called Bookmarks.plist, which is stored under your home folder, in Library/ Application Support/Versions. If you copy that file over to other computers and launch Versions on them, they'll get the exact same bookmarks you have. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On May 28, 4:59 pm, Matthew Velie matthewve...@gmail.com wrote: I just got versions, and a couple other people at my job will be getting it soon also. We have a bunch of different repositories configured here, and it would be nice if there was a way to export the list of all of the bookmarks I've created so they can easily import them onto their copy of versions. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Export Bookmarks
Hi Matthew, There's no 'export' option in Versions yet, we're hoping to add that some time in the future. But, you can export your Bookmarks manually. There's a file called Bookmarks.plist, which is stored under your home folder, in Library/ Application Support/Versions. If you copy that file over to other computers and launch Versions on them, they'll get the exact same bookmarks you have. All the best, - Dirk the Versions team On May 28, 4:59 pm, Matthew Velie matthewve...@gmail.com wrote: I just got versions, and a couple other people at my job will be getting it soon also. We have a bunch of different repositories configured here, and it would be nice if there was a way to export the list of all of the bookmarks I've created so they can easily import them onto their copy of versions. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Problems with Versions 1.0.4 over HTTP
Hi Casper, I have no clue (yet) what might be causing this, but we'll try to reproduce the problem over here right away. If we need any more details regarding your setup, I'll let you know. Since I don't know how long it will take us to reproduce and then fix the problem, it might be best for you to revert to using Versions 1.0.3 in the meanwhile: http://www.versionsapp.com/redirect/builds/Versions_1.0.3_56.zip I'm really sorry for the inconvenience, - Dirk the Versions team On May 26, 12:32 pm, Casper cas...@cqhosting.nl wrote: Hi all, We use Versions since it came out and it is a wonderful product. But since we updated to 1.0.4 we can't use it anymore. Each interaction with the subversion server (like update, commit or even browsing) results in an error: OPTIONS of 'http:// cas...@svn.ourserver.com/project': 200 OK (http://svn.ourserver.com) This is with a local server over HTTP with Versions on 1.6.1 the library. Does anyone know how we can solve this? Because we can't work at this moment. :) Kind regards, Casper --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Registration problems with Versions
Hi Adian, Sorry for taking a while to get back to you. Is it possible that your internet connection is firewalled or that your computer is set up to use a proxy for https traffic? Please see if you can, using Safari, open the purchase page on versionsapp.com by following the Buy Now link. (Firefox and –as far as I know– Chromium aren't affected by proxies set up in the Mac OS X System Preferences, but Safari and Versions both are). If you can view the Versions purchase page just fine in Safari, the problem you're running into is not network related. If you know of any further details that might be relevant, but don't want to post in public, please send me a personal email at d...@madebysofa.com and we'll figure this out together. Thanks, - Dirk the Versions team On May 20, 11:01 am, Aidan Lister aidanlis...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I just purchased versions, however I get a Connection Error trying to register it. I've tried the Beta version that Dirk has suggested, but that did not help. Regards, Aidan On May 16, 4:02 pm, Dirk Stoop d...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hi Gustavo, I'm sorry for the registration troubles. Please try installing this build of Versions:http://cdn.versionsapp.com/Versions_1.0.4b2_64.zip This is a beta of Versions 1.0.4 that includes fixes to some known problems with registration. Drop me a line if that doesn't take care of the problem. Thanks and sorry again, - Dirk the Versions team On May 14, 4:55 pm, Gustavo Bianchi bien...@gmail.com wrote: I have purchased Versions on 15/DEC/08. The soft was fine until today. When I am trying to start it up, I get a DEMO EXPIRED message. I tried entering my info again, but when i click register the app keeps showing a Processing... message and nothing happens. I have version 1.0.3 build 56. I think I have installed and update yesterday. Yesterday It worked fine, but today no. I am very urged with this as I have a project running. I dont know what to do. May be installing a previous version will work, but I am affraid I lose al my lsettings. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Purchased Version don't start
Hi Gustavo, I'm sorry for the registration troubles. Please try installing this build of Versions: http://cdn.versionsapp.com/Versions_1.0.4b2_64.zip This is a beta of Versions 1.0.4 that includes fixes to some known problems with registration. Drop me a line if that doesn't take care of the problem. Thanks and sorry again, - Dirk the Versions team On May 14, 4:55 pm, Gustavo Bianchi bien...@gmail.com wrote: I have purchased Versions on 15/DEC/08. The soft was fine until today. When I am trying to start it up, I get a DEMO EXPIRED message. I tried entering my info again, but when i click register the app keeps showing a Processing... message and nothing happens. I have version 1.0.3 build 56. I think I have installed and update yesterday. Yesterday It worked fine, but today no. I am very urged with this as I have a project running. I dont know what to do. May be installing a previous version will work, but I am affraid I lose al my lsettings. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions freezing mac, possible problem with encrypted disk images
Hi Jim, I, and several other people here at Sofa, use Knox to keep all of my working copies in encrypted disk images. None of us have run into this problem yet. Are you using any third party application to mount and unmount the disk image, or is it just a disk image you created with Disk Utility and mount yourself by double-clicking it in the Finder? Thanks, - Dirk On May 7, 7:06 am, Jim McGowan jamespmcgo...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, Wondering if anyone else has seen this behaviour, I've had a google round and not found anything similar. On one of my macs I moved my source onto an encrypted disk image for security (read 'paranoia'!) reasons, and have been having trouble with Versions on that mac since then. Intermittently, but maybe 90% of the time Versions freezes my entire mac after launching, and I have to restart the system by holding down the power button. Running svn cleanup on the working copies in the disk image, and restarting svnserve on my server sometimes clear the problem, but not always. The work around I have at the moment is to launch versions before mounting the disk image, Versions opens and shows a (!) icon at the working copies, then mount the disk image and the working copies appear in Versions. I don't have this problem on my other macs, where the working copies are just on the file system. My set up (on the problem mac) is: Versions 1.0.3 (Build 56) Mac OS X 1.5.6 (Intel) Working Copies on Sparse Bundle Image with 256 bit AES Repositories on subversion 1.4.4 on Suse 10.3 server Best, Jim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions crashing now several seconds after launch
Hi Baron, You can try to remove your Versions preferences file, and if that fails, your Bookmarks.plist file. The preferences file is called com.picodev.Versions.plist and is stored in your home folder under Library/Preferences The Bookmarks.plist file is stored in your home folder under Library/ Application Support/Versions. I'd recommend moving both of these files out of the way (e.g. to your Desktop) instead of directly deleting them, it would be a shame to lose those settings if it turns out that the problem wasn't caused by them. If this fixes the problem, please send those two files to me by email off-list so I can take a look at the cause of the problem. Thanks! - Dirk On May 3, 2:59 am, Baron baron.robe...@gmail.com wrote: I have just started experiencing what sounds like the same crash behavior on 1.0.4b63. Any workaround? Baron On Apr 29, 3:40 pm, João Pavão jpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have just checked the log you sent. Good news: this is actually something that has been fixed in the 1.0.4 beta. ;) Cheers, -- João the Versions team On Apr 29, 9:03 pm, johnny johnnytur...@gmail.com wrote: I was able to get everything working again after deleting all of the settings in Preferences and Application Support and running a svn cleanup from the command line (after the crash, one of my repositories was stuck in a locked state)... I will send you one of the crash reports. On Apr 29, 8:33 am, João Pavão jpa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Johnny, Can you please send me some of those crash reports privately? Thanks! -- João the Versions team On Apr 29, 12:04 am, johnny johnnytur...@gmail.com wrote: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: HTML instead of the bookmarks file (on first load)
This sounds like a problem with WebKit, which is the framework we use to render HTML in Versions. A lot of Mac apps use this same framework for similar purposes, so it wouldn't surprise me if Skype also needs it to render chat messages. When you use the Safari browser to view web pages, does that work normally? If it doesn't, this definitely is a problem with WebKit. I'm not sure what the best way to fix this would be, besides reinstalling OS X. One thing you could try is to get the latest Mac OS X Combo update from Apple and run that. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/ Make sure you get a Combo update and not a regular one. There's a decent chance that installing that will replace the defunct version of WebKit. If that doesn't help, my best suggestion would be to reinstall OS X and choosing the Archive and Install option during installation — that should leave all of your own stuff and installed applications in the right place. Good luck :) Cheers, - Dirk On Apr 30, 3:02 pm, Yoav yoa...@gmail.com wrote: Nope, no message at all. I guess it is an OS X problem, not a versions one. I just found out that skype is showing me XML instead of chat messages Maybe it's a faulty rich text component. Any idea where to look? On Apr 30, 3:11 pm, João Pavão jpa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yoav, Please run the Console application (it's in /Applications/Utilities), then launch Versions. Are you seeing any messages being written by Versions to the console? Thanks, João the Versions team On Apr 30, 12:46 pm, Yoav yoa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, Excuse my ignorance as I'm a noob on the mac. d/l Versions, and here's what I see on the first run: http://img.skitch.com/20090430-r9kwxf4ax3wbx71xurhur5fc9p.jpg Not sure what I am doing wrong. Thanks for helping. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Dear Ganesh, I understand that we might send out mixed signals by engaging in some conversations, but not openly discussing all of our plans. The below is not meant as an attack on what you just posted, but as a clarification of our point of view to whomever is interested in it. I've tried to keep this concise, sorry in advance for failing at that. ;) The purpose of this google group, from our perspective, is to provide a forum for people who use Versions to have an open dialogue with each other and with us. People in our development team will primarily post to this group when they feel they are most suited to address a question or concern posted here. The community of Versions users is immensely important to us, but Versions is not an open source project. Our primary responsibility – one we take very seriously – is to provide you all with an application that is *and continues to be* a pleasure to use. Listening to concerns, engaging in dialogue about where Versions is headed, and continuously improving the app are all part of that responsibility. Providing a detailed account of what we are working on and when exactly we plan to ship the fruits of our labor is not. It is understandable when someone mistakes our silence about what exactly we are working on for an indication that we are not working on anything, but it is kind of a stretch. Remember Versions 1.0? We added a bunch of new features in that release (Auto-refresh, change badges, Info pane, etc.) that we had not discussed anywhere in public before. That's more or less indicative of how we, and a bunch of other commercial software companies work: We listen to feedback, engage in conversation, then lock ourselves up in our offices to come up with the best way to mix a variety of feature requests with the direction we want to take the application into, and when we have something to show for that work, we show it. Work on SVN 1.6 support started as soon as 1.6 was – in our opinion – stable enough to actually start work on integrating it, quite a while before people started asking about it over here. There was no reluctancy in working out how to integrate 1.6 in Versions, only reluctancy in knowingly releasing a new build of Versions that introduced significant new problems – the ones Koen described in his post that started this thread – all of which are directly due to issues in SVN 1.6. Releasing an update to Versions that includes SVN 1.6 will result in a lot of people who don't necessarily need 1.6 right now to switch from 1.5 to 1.6, simply because it's the latest and greatest and it's just a click away. We prefer not to release broken things, hence the reluctancy to just ship it and the 'solution' of posting a beta here. There's no such thing as for people to use at their own risk when your business relies to a large extent on people recommending your products to others, but by only posting the build here, at least people who get it will know where to come to learn more about any problems they might run into. I don't agree with, but respect your opinion that the changes in 1.0.4b are underwhelming. It's a 1.0.x update, not a 1.x update, so yes, it is intended as a maintenance release, one that focusses on fixing bugs. Like we mentioned before on several occasions in this group, we are working on new features and bigger improvements too. For this release, taking care of a bunch of annoying bugs was more important to us, because those prevent people from using the application for its advertised purpose and feature set. Of the two ways we could make Versions more useful, we chose to prioritize on reliability first, new features are great too, but they had to wait. Please keep telling us what you expect from us, especially when you feel that we're not living up to it. I hope I've given a bit more insight in how we work. Thanks and sorry again for the rant :) - Dirk On Apr 28, 8:41 am, Alberto Ganesh Barbati albertobarb...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Apr, 22:36, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Exactly. Although these 1.6 issues are eating more time then we would like :-/ Up to version 1.0.3 you always released at least one version a month. Now almost five months have passed since then and you come out with a beta with a very unimpressive list of changes. You are blaming SVN 1.6 about that, while you apparently started to work on it reluctantly and only after significant pressure from the user base in the last month. With all due respect, I am a bit worried. I am happy with Versions, but I am starting to wonder whether significant development is still ongoing or it has already reached maintenance mode. Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Hi Ganesh, I understand, and appreciate that you're taking the time to express your worries. :) All I can really add to what I said before is: don't worry, Versions is being developed very actively. Cheers, - Dirk On Apr 28, 3:49 pm, Alberto Ganesh Barbati albertobarb...@gmail.com wrote: Dirk, I bought Versions in December, around the time 1.0.3 has been released, so I didn't follow what happened before. One thing I know is that one of the reasons I chosed Versions was that there had been several significant updates in the six previous months, showing that the software was very alive and actively maintained. But since I bought it, no more updates. Even if you started working on SVN 1.6 as soon as it was released, it's still four months (from December to March) without updates. That's why I'm worried. Just my opinion, Ganesh PS: and I just had to do a merge from the command line... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: FileMerge not found?
Hi Chris, Short version: run sudo xcode-select -switch /Developer in a Terminal. That should fix it. (fingers crossed) Long version: Versions uses the opendiff command-line tool – also part of a default Developer tools installation – to launch FileMerge. Normally when you install the developer tools, a shell script, also aptly named opendiff is installed at /usr/bin/opendiff. The sole purpose of that shell script is to somehow figure out where the real opendiff command-line tool is located (normally at /Developer/usr/bin/ opendiff). The opendiff shell script uses yet another command-line utility that's included with Xcode, xcode-select (also used to switch between different Xcode installations on one Mac) to do this. This opendiff script is the thing Versions tries to execute when you use FileMerge, if it does not exist, Versions looks in the most likely spot for the real opendiff command. I bet that if you open up a Terminal window on your Mac and run xcode- select -print-path, it will print out /Developer3.0. If that's indeed what you get, run sudo xcode-select -switch / Developer and everything should be fine, including the functionality of any other parts of the Developer tools or third-party apps that depend on this xcode-path to be set correctly. If I'm wrong, let me know, and we'll keep on looking. :) Cheers, - Dirk On Apr 27, 8:53 pm, Chris Williams chriswilli...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not quite sure what's going on but Versions is complaining that it can't find FileMerge: FileMerge Error - The FileMerge application could not be located. Please install Xcdoe Tools from the Apple Developer website. I actually already have FM installed and can run it stand-alone. It's located in /Developer/Applications/Utilities which I believe is the default location. One other clue that might help explain is that I originally had Xcode installed in another directory: /Developer3.0. I've since moved everything so it should be back to the defaults that Versions is looking for.. Any ideas? Should I trash my preferences or something? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Coupon Code
Hi Yoda, There's one on www.svnpack.com, along with discount codes for a Beanstalk subscription, a book from O'Reilly, and an on-demand course from CollabNet. Cheers, - Dirk On Apr 27, 8:46 pm, yoda vijay.vattiko...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any coupon codes at this time? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How can I set the CFBundleVersion according to subversion/Versions revision number?
This one-liner will return the current BASE revision of your working copy: svn info | grep Revision | sed s/'Revision: '// We use this snippet in Checkout to set the CFBundleVersion value in the Info.plist at build time. We don't use Xcode to build the app, and there might be a more efficient way to manipulate your Info.plist than this when you're not running a Python interpreter anyways already, but adding a custom script like the one below as a build phase for your target should work (if you're developing on Leopard that is, if I remember correctly, plistlib was not included with the Python distribution that shipped with Tiger, but you could install it): (set shell to: /usr/bin/python, add your Info.plist to the list of input files in the Run Script Phase window) # --- begin of script import plistlib import os from sys import argv plistPath = argv[len(argv) - 1] plistDict = plistlib.readPlist(plistPath) currentSVNRevision = os.popen(svn info | grep Revision | sed s/'Revision: '//).read().strip() plistDict['CFBundleVersion'] = currentSVNRevision # working with strings is easy in Python, something like what's below should help with the short version shortVersionString = u'MyApp v.1.0, build number %s' % (currentSVNRevision) plistDict['CFBundleShortVersionString'] = shortVersionString # finally, overwrite the old plist file with the modified dictionary plistlib.writePlist(plistDict, plistPath) # --- end of script Written mostly from memory, so fingers crossed that it actually works. - Dirk On Apr 22, 3:06 pm, Alberto Ganesh Barbati albertobarb...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have a complete answer, but you may find these links interesting: http://chanson.livejournal.com/125568.htmlhttp://developer.apple.com/DOCUMENTATION/DARWIN/Reference/ManPages/ma... Ganesh On 8 Apr, 09:31, Gatada johanbasb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am sure this problem has a simple solution: How can I use the subversion/Versions revision number as the CFBundleVersion in my Xcode project? Maybe it even is a nice, clean and efficient way to get the CFBundleShortVersionString set correctly? Thanks! Johan CFBundleVersion: identifies an iteration (released or unreleased) of the application. CFBundleShortVersionString: [major revisions to the application]. [revisions that implement less prominent features].[maintenance releases] PS: Hm, seems like my post timed out? This is second attempt. Sorry if it shows up twice (with slightly different content). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
