[VFB] Chili Pepper
I almost hate to post this I sent a friend a couple of peppers several weeks ago. I just got a CD from him with his last fishing trip. Said he quit counting trout after 135. All photos are different of at least a dozen trout with peppers in their mouths. Some large Cutts too. I will have to find out where he fished. He will be tying at the Sowbug if you would like to talk to him. Tony
[VFB] Ed Motley
Contact me off list. Tony
Re: [VFB] Po' Boy's Fly Tying Club
I use one of those rubber hair brushes. Got a bag full in a few times brushing. Chicki is gone now, If I still have it around I will send it to you. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to figure out a way to get the body hair without it being to obvious,,we do have to take her to the vet for a check-up,,minus patchy fur missing Ray message dated 12/20/2005 9:11:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does that make her look like a Skinny Possum??? LOL, Chuck - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com mailto:vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Po' Boy's Fly Tying Club My ferret has had no hair on her tail for the longest time,doesnt seem to grow back. Ray -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] Need something
To you in New England. I need some of the rubber bands like are used to the lobster claws. Can use about 20 or more. PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST Thanks Tony.
Re: [VFB] Need something
You are a hard man to deal with LOL Will do if you bring the lobsters to the Sowbug and I share them with you. Tony Byard Miller wrote: I'd be happy to send them to you Tony. All you need do is pay for the 10 lobsters I'll need to go out and buy...;^))) Byard Miller Virtual Flybox www.virtualflybox.com Line's End Inc www.linesend.com On Dec 21, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Tony Spezio wrote: To you in New England. I need some of the rubber bands like are used to the lobster claws. Can use about 20 or more. PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST Thanks Tony. -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Feathers from Wing barb sections???
Chuck, If you hold the feather to the light you well see a definite halo radiating out from the quill. This is best seen from the dull side of the feather. If the wing slip is tied in over this dull section the barbs will split. Tie in the wing feathers behind the dull area. Hold the wing slips over the hook shank, squeeze the feathers real tight between your thumb and first finger. Make a soft loop over the slips then make the second soft loop and pull STRAIGHT down while squeezing the slips together make a tight wrap, again pulling straight down. This should lock the wings in place. It is harder to write about it than to do it. If this is not clear let me know. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about that.. They were turkey wing feathers and duck wing feathers in matching pairs, Chuck - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Feathers from Wing barb sections??? Pairs of Geese and duck wings that I ordered is all I know... Chuck - Original Message - From: Tony Spezio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Feathers from Wing barb sections??? What type of feathers are you using for the wings. More info on the type of wing is also needed. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks: On flies where you make a pair of wings by cutting out portions of a matched set of feathers, in the photos I see, the feathers are all beautiful, even, and in one piece No matter what I seem to do, one (or both) of the sides, the barbs come apart, and make the fly look ugly.. I thought about cutting the sections, painting a layer of head cement on one side, then tying them in. Does anybody here do that?? Or am I just doing something wrong??? They will be together till I match them on the hook shank, but I make a cpl pinch turns, and as soon as I tighten down to lock them in place, some of the barbs ALWAYS come apart... This has been about the hardest thing to learn so far.. Thanks in advance, Chuck -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Feathers from Wing barb sections???
Don, Glad you brought this up. O was visualizing what I so and this part just did not click as I do it subconseiouly and never gave it a thought. Tony DonO wrote: Chuck, Tony has the right method for you, but there is one detail that is harder to explain than it is to show, as he says. It's called the fingertip roll. How do you get the thread around the feathers and hook (the soft loops) while you're pinching them? The trick is to roll the tips of your fingers back, exosing the area you want to make the wraps around. Then make your loose wraps- 2 to 3 are sufficient. Then roll your fingertips back to where the thread loops are sandwiched along with the feather tips. Now pull straight down, forcing the thread to accordion the feather barbs into a squashed stack, 2 feathers side by side. Wellah! Now you have stacked wings, which of course, Tony invented. Re-marry different colors from different birds or dyed colors, and you get salmonfly married wings. Deb invented these. Thanks to DonO, tho, for inventing flight-feathers in the first place. Dr. Demento - Original Message - From: Tony Spezio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Feathers from Wing barb sections??? Chuck, If you hold the feather to the light you well see a definite halo radiating out from the quill. This is best seen from the dull side of the feather. If the wing slip is tied in over this dull section the barbs will split. Tie in the wing feathers behind the dull area. Hold the wing slips over the hook shank, squeeze the feathers real tight between your thumb and first finger. Make a soft loop over the slips then make the second soft loop and pull STRAIGHT down while squeezing the slips together make a tight wrap, again pulling straight down. This should lock the wings in place. It is harder to write about it than to do it. If this is not clear let me know. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry about that.. They were turkey wing feathers and duck wing feathers in matching pairs, Chuck - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Feathers from Wing barb sections??? Pairs of Geese and duck wings that I ordered is all I know... Chuck - Original Message - From: Tony Spezio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Feathers from Wing barb sections??? What type of feathers are you using for the wings. More info on the type of wing is also needed. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks: On flies where you make a pair of wings by cutting out portions of a matched set of feathers, in the photos I see, the feathers are all beautiful, even, and in one piece No matter what I seem to do, one (or both) of the sides, the barbs come apart, and make the fly look ugly.. I thought about cutting the sections, painting a layer of head cement on one side, then tying them in. Does anybody here do that?? Or am I just doing something wrong??? They will be together till I match them on the hook shank, but I make a cpl pinch turns, and as soon as I tighten down to lock them in place, some of the barbs ALWAYS come apart... This has been about the hardest thing to learn so far.. Thanks in advance, Chuck -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/207 - Release Date: 12/19/2005 -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] Typo
Don, Slight Typo Glad you brought this up. O was visualizing what I so and this part just did not click as I do it subconseiouly and never gave it a thought. Tony Glad you brought this up. I was visualizing what I do and this part just did not click as I do it subconsciously and never gave it a thought.
Re: [VFB] SowBug Cookout?
Looks like I am back on the list. Don't plan on cooking on Friday evening. We have a free barbecue for all. Tony Larry Johnson wrote: Jimi: I hope to attend. If someone would provide the pots, I could do some Dutch oven chicken and taters. If I come, I will have to fly, and can't put Dutch ovens in my check-through luggage. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/17/2005 9:30 PM Is anyone planning a SowBug cookout/ BBQ/ Pot Luck for this year?? Would be fun to see a variety of foods at one place at one time. Kind of a BYOF share and enjoy. If I get to make it this year, and have the Stuff, I would be willing to cook breakfast to order for everyone, (Western Omelets, Eggs to order, Sausage, bacon, SOS, Biscuits and Gravy, Hash Browns, maybe even Pancakes). Of course we have to Hijack Tony and Dot each morning, (Keep them from stopping at the Mickey D's and getting a gut grenade). I love to cook, just give me the stuff and a reason Heck, with a bit of coaxing and the Stuff I would do Dinner each night. Anyone want fresh Fish on the menu??? I am normally up around 3 or 4 our time, so it would be a joy for me, chance to give back to the folks that have been so great over the years. Jimi -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Feathers from Wing barb sections???
What type of feathers are you using for the wings. More info on the type of wing is also needed. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks: On flies where you make a pair of wings by cutting out portions of a matched set of feathers, in the photos I see, the feathers are all beautiful, even, and in one piece No matter what I seem to do, one (or both) of the sides, the barbs come apart, and make the fly look ugly.. I thought about cutting the sections, painting a layer of head cement on one side, then tying them in. Does anybody here do that?? Or am I just doing something wrong??? They will be together till I match them on the hook shank, but I make a cpl pinch turns, and as soon as I tighten down to lock them in place, some of the barbs ALWAYS come apart... This has been about the hardest thing to learn so far.. Thanks in advance, Chuck -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: DonO - was Re: [VFB] Sowbug.
Allan, I know you tie backwards but this is a bit far out. LOL Tony Allan Fish wrote: I know it's been posted, but what are the Sowbug dates again? I'll mark my calendar. In case you missed it, Don, it's March 18, 17 16, 2006. You're welcome. Don't mention it. Allan -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] Al's Fly update
I just got off the phone with my buddy Al back east. He said he has been known to use Black Raffia when he was short on Crow. I am about to finish up three dozen for a friend on the west coast. Tony
Re: [VFB] Tying at Sowbug
Murf, The invitations went out in three batches. You should be getting yours anytime now. I will be out of town till Monday. Let me know then, if you have not received it. They are coming by snail mail. Got a message from a past list member Wally Wing Lutz. He plans on making it in 06. The Dates are March 16, 17, 18, 2006. Tony David Murphy wrote: As I get an invitation every year and then fail to show because of work issues, this year I planned ahead and gave everyone 3 months notice... of course, no invitation arrived so I'll be fishing the White and runs with Tony and my new rod. I might stop in during mid-day to have lunch with you all and get some new ideas (how to start thread 101) or even fill in while you take a break. I'll be sporting my new fly tying kit completely dervived from ideas found on this list. See you all in March! Murf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member: www.virtualflybox.com http://www.virtualflybox.com/ From: Joseph Fusco, Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: vfb@troutnet.com To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: [VFB] Tying at Sowbug Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:53:27 -0600 I got my invitation to tie at Sowbug yesterday also. I am looking forward to the chance of meeting many of you face to face and maybe trading some fish tales. See you all there -- Joe Fusco, Sr. REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Make FREE PC-to-PC calls with MSN Messenger. Get it now! http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2752??PS=47575 -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: was Re: Re-post Was: [VFB] Al's Fly Step By Step and recipe
No reason you can't use plastic beads. If you want a heavier fly just add some lead wire. Some plastic beads will loose their color after r they are wet. I had a batch that turned pink after the fly was used several times. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered about that too. All I have is gold, and plastic regular craft beads in a variety of colors, including black.. I guess I could use those craft beads, just have to debarb as they are not taper drilled... Chuck - Original Message - From: Conranch mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com mailto:vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:24 PM Subject: Re: was Re: Re-post Was: [VFB] Al's Fly Step By Step and recipe Not having any Crow, I am successfully using black wing feathers from one of my genetic roosters. Has worked well for me since the Sow bug last Spring. Also not having the black bead, I like Tony have resorted to the Gold bead. Works for me. Denny
Re: [VFB] Dying Feathers
I have used Rit Dyes and had good results. Black is a hard color to dye with on deer hair, I generally used to add a bit of blue. I found it is not worth my time to dye materials unless I was in a bind for a color I needed . Now that my tying has slowed down some, I don't think I will be dying any materials. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody tell Me if I can dye feathers with Rit dye (For dying clothing). Or is there a special dye??? Thanks, Chuck
Re: was Re: Re-post Was: [VFB] Al's Fly Step By Step and recipe
Why Not, It would be Garry's Winter bug version of Al's fly. LOL That might be a good idea and also a Flash Back version of the same fly. I bet they will all work. I am tying several dozen of these flies for a friend on the west coast. I might try some of these changes when I am finished with them. Tony Garry V. Wiles wrote: Tony, Murf, Allan, What about Thin Skin for the backs of them thar Al's Winter Bug B? --Garry At 08:40 PM 12/10/2005, you wrote: Allen, Yeah, I think both Buggs AND Jester are starting to rub off on ya... LOL ... Seriously though, Chuck --- What I've been using is the butt feather fibers off a Ringneck Pheasant dyed black... I think the iridescence of those fibers give it a little bit of a kick, so to speak... Rodney... - Original Message - From: Allan Fish mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com mailto:vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 5:59 PM Subject: p.s.: was Re: Re-post Was: [VFB] Al's Fly Step By Step and recipe Black crow wing fibers for the wing case. I broke the firing pin on my shotgun a while back, so does anybody know of something I could substitute??? I have everything else.. Thanks in advance, Chuck Sorry, Chuck. I've been listening to Jester and Buggs too long. Black chicken feather barbs should work too, wouldn't they? -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Tony's Al's Fly Pics...
Gee I thought you were a friend !! Read below. David Murphy wrote: That is one UGLY fly. Whoa! Not to the fish mind you, which is my point. That fly looks like a creepy crawly bug my munchkins wouldn't touch, the litmus test of whether it looks real. Then UGLY must be what catches fish, Did close to 500 fish on this fly this year. True a lot of them were Gills and several Carp long with some Smallmouths. Most were trout and I almost had forsaken the Chili Pepper for Al's fly this year. Not the tie ain't bad but you can tell the tyer is a beginner in his first or second month at tying. You have to tie them ugly if you want to catch fish. If you tie them too neat, the fish will know you are an EXPERT and will not touch the fly. Now if this post don't get yer blood boilin Tony, you're about to cross over into the land of the soap opera. ;-) Man, I crossed over a long time ago. BTW, That fly in the photo was a used fly. It had caught a bunch of fish. It was the only one I had to take some photos so I could send them to a friend on the list last spring. Actually, we've hit this point many times. But after a few cordial discussions today in a few shops I happened by, seems too many folks are keen on what appeales to their eye, not the fish. Opinions? Thoughts? All in jest no beer bottles coming your way. I don't drink beer anyway. LOL Empty beer bottles coming my way? Murf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member: www.virtualflybox.com http://www.virtualflybox.com/ From: Byard Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: vfb@troutnet.com To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: [VFB] Tony's Al's Fly Pics... Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:14:05 -0500 vfb_logo_1.jpg You can find the pics at http://www.virtualflybox.com/scrapbook/ scrapbook.php?scrapbook_id=1id=54 Byard Miller Virtual Flybox www.virtualflybox.com Line's End Inc www.linesend.com Make FREE PC-to-PC calls with MSN Messenger. Get it now! http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2752??PS=47575 -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: was Re: Re-post Was: [VFB] Al's Fly Step By Step and recipe
That will work, Crow, black dyed Rooster, Turkey or Goose would work. The gold beads seem to do real well too. Tony Conranch wrote: Not having any Crow, I am successfully using black wing feathers from one of my genetic roosters. Has worked well for me since the Sow bug last Spring. Also not having the black bead, I like Tony have resorted to the Gold bead. Works for me. Denny Black crow wing fibers for the wing case. I broke the firing pin on my shotgun a while back, so does anybody know of something I could substitute??? I have everything else.. Thanks in advance, Chuck Dennis Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Conranch Hackle http://www.conranch.com 509-999-7472 -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: was Re: Re-post Was: [VFB] Al's Fly Step By Step and recipe
That should match the iridescence of the crow feathers. Tony Rodney wrote: Allen, Yeah, I think both Buggs AND Jester are starting to rub off on ya... LOL ... Seriously though, Chuck --- What I've been using is the butt feather fibers off a Ringneck Pheasant dyed black... I think the iridescence of those fibers give it a little bit of a kick, so to speak... Rodney... - Original Message - From: Allan Fish mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com mailto:vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 5:59 PM Subject: p.s.: was Re: Re-post Was: [VFB] Al's Fly Step By Step and recipe Black crow wing fibers for the wing case. I broke the firing pin on my shotgun a while back, so does anybody know of something I could substitute??? I have everything else.. Thanks in advance, Chuck Sorry, Chuck. I've been listening to Jester and Buggs too long. Black chicken feather barbs should work too, wouldn't they? -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Dying Feathers
You have to wash the raw feather to remove the oils. I used Joy dish soap. I also had a photo darkroom and used a few drops of Photo Flow in the wash water before dying and in the dye. This made the dye flow evenly on the wet material. There is another way that you can dye single feathers in a micro wave. Talk to MaMa first. I never did it so I don't remember the details. I would have to look it up and am not up to it now. If my memory is right, it was as simple as laying a feather on something that was the color you want and zapping it. I am sure someone will chime in. This came from one of the OLD Flytyer mags. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ashley, Thanks.. I've tried every brand of marker on the market, and it is weird (I guess it is oil on the feathers or something).. But they will color one side, but not the other side, so I have a half dyed feather, Chuck - Original Message - From: ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying Feathers Chuck, I've never seen rit here but according to various things I've seen,Yes you can. A.K Best has a book 'dying and bleaching' and has deals alot with rit and also veniards dyes. Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody tell Me if I can dye feathers with Rit dye (For dying clothing). Or is there a special dye??? Thanks, Chuck -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: was Re: Re-post Was: [VFB] Al's Fly Step By Step and recipe
It might be different brands. Most of the plastic gold beads I was using were white in the center when they split in two. All were from the same company because I was buying in bulk. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks.. Never thought about the beads turning colors.. Maybe the ph of the water could cause it to change.. Who know, cause I have broken some of these and they are black (or whatever color) through and through... But I guess they are dyed in some way too, cause they are probably made from at least part recycled plastic...I'm also gonna go get some rit.. Chuck - Original Message - From: Tony Spezio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 8:09 AM Subject: Re: was Re: Re-post Was: [VFB] Al's Fly Step By Step and recipe No reason you can't use plastic beads. If you want a heavier fly just add some lead wire. Some plastic beads will loose their color after r they are wet. I had a batch that turned pink after the fly was used several times. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered about that too. All I have is gold, and plastic regular craft beads in a variety of colors, including black.. I guess I could use those craft beads, just have to debarb as they are not taper drilled... Chuck - Original Message - From: Conranch mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com mailto:vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:24 PM Subject: Re: was Re: Re-post Was: [VFB] Al's Fly Step By Step and recipe Not having any Crow, I am successfully using black wing feathers from one of my genetic roosters. Has worked well for me since the Sow bug last Spring. Also not having the black bead, I like Tony have resorted to the Gold bead. Works for me. Denny -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Thanks Gang for Metatarsal info
How about the back, I were a prescription back support so I can wade more than a couple of hours. If I go without it, I am good for a bit over an hour. Tony Michael Bliss wrote: No foot problems here - but this is fishing related -very fishing related. How can you fish if your feet hurt. This is a good question. We are here to help each other. Mike - Original Message - From: Allan Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Thanks Gang for Metatarsal info Already had a member beat on me for sharing personal stuff on list! . Jimmy, What better group to ask about this problem than the list. We've got some medical types in the group. Amd we definitely got some others with foot problems. No apologies necessary. Allan -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] Ernie Schwiebert
Sorry to hear that, I have talked to Ernie quite a bit at the east coast shows. He helped me quite a bit in gaining confidence in my tying. Tony mel hocken wrote: A sad end to one of fly fishing's ambassadors. I have all of his books. I have learned much from his technical books and enjoyed the stories from his others. Mel - Original Message - From: Neville Gosling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: [VFB] Ernie Schwiebert This appeared on FLYFISH@ today. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 3:23 PM Subject: Ernie Schwiebert Ernie passed away this morning after a mercifully short battle with
Re: [VFB] Using Scud Hooks
Chuck, I tie a lot of standard flies on scud hooks. One reason is I have a load of them from the commercial tying I used to do. I prefer most of my Gill flies to be tied on the scud hooks. I tie about 99% of my soft hackles and emergers on the scud hook. The fish don't seem to care. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks: Please excuse my BIG mouth and taking up soo much band width today, but I was wondering about this for some time now..Tony's Al's Fly.. Got me to wondering.. It uses a scud hook.. Well, I fish mostly with a pink fly I invented, the Chili Pepper, and Wooly Buggers, as I have no trout here, I fish for bluegills.. And I use nymph (straight) hooks to tie them on.. But, when a caterpillar, or insect is in the water, I have watched then, and to propel themselves, they bend, then go straight, bend, straight, bend, straight right So, has anybody tied these type flies on scud hooks to represent the insect, caterpillar etc when it is in that bent position??? If so, was it successful Thanks, Chuck -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Dying Feathers
Deb, I found a small Electric Crock Pot at a yard sale for 50 cents. It worked real good. It can be used away from the kitchen stove. I have not done any dying in about 10 years. Tony Deborah Duran wrote: Chuck I have heard not to use aluminum pans before so even though I didn't have a problem with it follow Mels advice. I keep meaning to go to the flea markets and pick up an large old stainless pan but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Nick at Hunters Angling showed me some great old pans he used. I'm going to try to find one like it. Don't dye materials in pans you will be using for cooking food in. I tried to get a hold of a friend of mine to see if Nick still has the pans but he didn't know how to reach him. I hope I still see him around at the shows. He recently sold Hunters Angling to another outfit in New Bedford. Warm Regards, Deb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 4:18 PM To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying Feathers Deb: Thanks.. I'll print this out, get some dye and follow these directions...We have Salvage Grocery (bent and dent) stores here, and I find rit dye for 50 cents a bottle, Chuck - Original Message - From: Deborah Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 6:18 AM Subject: RE: [VFB] Dying Feathers Yes. That's what I was doing yesterday. Rit won't turn out as nice as Veniard's (an acid dye) but it's a quick and easy thing for me. I dyed some fine Ostrich black yesterday with the liquid Rit. I used a large aluminum pan on the stove with water, salt and vinegar. I was told by a good friend that the secret to dying was to use half water and half vinegar (Rit said to use salt so I used it also). It was the easiest dye job I've done yet. The feathers held all the black and took less than 30 seconds to rinse clear. I've been told black is one of the hardest colors to dye. I did have to leave the feathers in for almost an hour. Be careful not to burn the feathers, I really don't think the water has to be HOT. I turned mine completely off after half an hour and let them sit in it while it cooled. I don't know if I did this right but it worked for me and the black isn't rubbing off on my fingers or in water so I'm happy. I'm using these for Classic salmon flies so if they weren't perfect they would've hit the scrap pile. Remember to first wet your feathers with water before you immerse them in the dye bath if they're oily wash them in a gentle dish soap first (dawn or ivory). They need to be wet already to absorb the dye evenly. There is a gentleman on the list that works with dyes and materials for a living hopefully he will chime in. I experiment a lot... I use egg dye, koolaid and hair dyes but it's still experimental I don't know a lot about dying. It works or it doesn't. :) I've used Rit several times though. I hope this helped you. There is a web site on mixing Rit dyes also, check out google. Warm Regards, Deb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:03 AM To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: [VFB] Dying Feathers Can anybody tell Me if I can dye feathers with Rit dye (For dying clothing). Or is there a special dye??? Thanks, Chuck -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Dying Feathers
Jack, I think blue, red and one other color in Kool Aid will make black. Been away from it too long. Will get back to your off list question later. Tony Jack Lehman wrote: During a recent tying class with Judy Lehmerg (Salmon Fly Tyer), she suggested going to your Spanish speaking specialty grocery stores. Their version of Kool-aide (and she couldn't remember the brands) have some colors not available from US versions. No, not changing my ways, mostly wanting just to try and to learn some new thread handling techniques. Jack Austin David Murphy wrote: Kool Aid (no sugar) is a cheap and effective dye. Forget Rit. Black is a combo of all the basic colors, right? Murf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member: www.virtualflybox.com http://www.virtualflybox.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: vfb@troutnet.com To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: [VFB] Dying Feathers Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:03:24 -0600 Can anybody tell Me if I can dye feathers with Rit dye (For dying clothing). Or is there a special dye??? Thanks, Chuck Find e-mail, documents and more on your PC instantly with Windows Desktop SearchFREE! http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2737??PS=47575 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005 -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: Re-post Was: [VFB] Al's Fly Step By Step and recipe
I sent the messsage to the wrong person. Tony Allan Fish wrote: Tony: Do you know where we can find the recipe, and step by step of the Al's fly?? Thanks, Chuck Chuck, Tony posted it on Friday. You're not watching your mail close enough. For SHAME!!! G Here 'tis yet again: I posted this on July 7. This has been a very productive fly for me this year. Most of my fishing has been with the Chili Pepper and Al's fly this season. A couple of weeks ago I finally fished my 1 wt bamboo rod I made. Used a sz 16 Al's fly for the whole time I was out. Caught 46 fish. All were warm water fish from Crooked Creek. Most were bluegills about the size of my hand. Did get a smallmouth about 6 long. On an earlier fishing trip to CC, I hooked a Carp on a sz 12 Al's fly, it straightened out the hook. I just sent some shots to Joyce. If someone would like to post the photos on their website, I would be glad to send then along. Maybe Byard will chime in. Tony What I refer to as Al's Fly is really a modified Winter Fly. Al calls it a Winter Fly B Here is the way I tie it Hook: Scud sz 12, 14 Head: Black brass bead size for hook. Weight: Just enough lead wire to fit in the bead recess Thread: Black Tail: Short strands of Pheasant tail Rib: Fine copper wire Body: Several fibers of pheasant tail wrapped to the thorax. Wing Case: Black crow wing fibers Thorax: Peacock herl Legs: A couple of soft black hen fibers. I use the ones from the JV hens Slip bead on the hook, wrap lead wire. Attach black thread, wrap the shank down the bend a bit Tie in tail fibers, tie in rib wire and body fibers. Wrap body fibers to the thorax. Wrap rib, about 4 to 5 turns. Tie off at thorax, Tie in wing case fibers . Tie in peacock herl and wrap thorax. Tie in three leg fibers on each side. This can be done by taking a hen feather and cutting out the tip of the feather leaving a V in the top. Then strip off all the barbs leaving three barbs on each side where the V is. The barbs and the stem now will form a Y Tie in the stem right behind the bead leaving the three barbs on each side of the thorax. Pull the wing case over the thorax leaving the legs extended. Tie off the wing case right behind the bead head. Whip finish. Add some head cement to the wing case and the whip finish. Tony You're welcome, A. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Question for Mountain Homers...
Nick, March in Arkansas can be IFFY if we have bad weather it will be bad and if we have good weather it well be good. LOL For the most part the weather will be warm, March can be a windy month. March is usually when I catch my biggest trout during the year. No snowmobile suits needed and leave your Bikini at home. A light jacket should be brought for the evening chill. We can have temps from +70*F down to 30*F at night. It is a month you can't predict the weather.. For the most part, it will be like Springtime. Tony Niclas Runarsson wrote: I realized something that could turn out useful when I'm going to sta... hmmm... when TERESA is going to start to pack my suitcase for Sowbug trip: Knowledge about March weather in the wild wild west. In March, I use to take the sh... hrrrmmm... TERESA use to take the shovel out to master the 1+ foot layer of snow... at least five times a day. Our windows are made by plexiglass since ordinary glass would crack to shreds already in August when the winter starts to come. For safety reasons though, every window is covered with curtains or blinds, because only LOOKING out will turn the fluid inside your eyes to ice crystals and crumble to pieces by the slightest vibration. That's Sowbug season in Sweden. How is it in the actual Sowbug neighbourhood? Shall I... hrrrmm... TERESA pack my snowmobile dress... or my bikini? /Ni... hmm... JESTER -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Chili Pepper question
Nick, Thems not CP them's wooley buggers. LOL Tony Niclas Runarsson wrote: I use to tie it on #12, in different variations. There's the all black one... the 'Black Pepper' and then there are the 'Grizzly Peppers', different color versions using grizzly marabou and matching barred hackles. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Tony Spezio Skickat: den 8 december 2005 19:02 Till: vfb@troutnet.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Chili Pepper question I like sz 14 for summer time and use 10 and 12 for the winter months. Sz 6 and 8 for Carp. Tony Desert Eagle wrote: Tony, or ??? What size hooks do you recommend for the Chili Peppers? Low this morning was -5, now +16, and everything is froze up. Jimi -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB]Now Mark R
I was up there the middle of Sept. Still fighting mold. Got a call from him several weeks ago, he and Mesa will be at the Sowbug. Jeff Frye wrote: Off list still. He's had a heck of a year with that house flooding. I did get to spend some time with him at Southern Conclave. He also had a nasty computer virus. --- DonO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where is Mark Romero??? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] I am home.
Thanks Wes, I still owe you a couple of flies. Tony Wes Wada wrote: Tony, Truly like hearing a family member is in need. Hope you are more comfortable every day. We all wish you well. Wes Wada -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] I am home.
Thank You my friend. Tony Desert Eagle wrote: Glad you are home my friend. Am setting here trying to type with a sock on my hand, than God for spell checker... Rest and have fun my friend. Jimi . I am home now and doing pretty good. Still a bit sore but nothing I can't live with. I had Prostrate surgery and was given some meds that did not agree with me. It caused severe chest pains so I was admitted a couple of days later with a possible heart attack. I have a history of heart problems. I was given some blood thinners and this started the prostrate bleeding. Well so it goes on and on. I finally got to come home with restrictions. I am doing ok but a bit uncomfortable. -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] Al's fly Re posting
Tony, When my hard drive crashed I lost your recipe for the Chile Pepper as well as Arts fly, (I think that is the one you have been using a lot lately). Would it be to much to ask for you to send them to me again? I am still trying to find the right color marabou and Chinel around here with no joy. Will probably wind up improvising or just getting creative. Thanks, Jimi I posted this on July 7. This has been a very productive fly for me this year. Most of my fishing has been with the Chili Pepper and Al's fly this season. A couple of weeks ago I finally fished my 1 wt bamboo rod I made. Used a sz 16 Al's fly for the whole time I was out. Caught 46 fish. All were warm water fish from Crooked Creek. Most were bluegills about the size of my hand. Did get a smallmouth about 6 long. On an earlier fishing trip to CC, I hooked a Carp on a sz 12 Al's fly, it straightened out the hook. I just sent some shots to Joyce. If someone would like to post the photos on their website, I would be glad to send then along. Maybe Byard will chime in. Tony What I refer to as Al's Fly is really a modified Winter Fly. Al calls it a Winter Fly B Here is the way I tie it Hook: Scud sz 12, 14 Head: Black brass bead size for hook. Weight: Just enough lead wire to fit in the bead recess Thread: Black Tail: Short strands of Pheasant tail Rib: Fine copper wire Body: Several fibers of pheasant tail wrapped to the thorax. Wing Case: Black crow wing fibers Thorax: Peacock herl Legs: A couple of soft black hen fibers. I use the ones from the JV hens Slip bead on the hook, wrap lead wire. Attach black thread, wrap the shank down the bend a bit Tie in tail fibers, tie in rib wire and body fibers. Wrap body fibers to the thorax. Wrap rib, about 4 to 5 turns. Tie off at thorax, Tie in wing case fibers . Tie in peacock herl and wrap thorax. Tie in three leg fibers on each side. This can be done by taking a hen feather and cutting out the tip of the feather leaving a V in the top. Then strip off all the barbs leaving three barbs on each side where the V is. The barbs and the stem now will form a Y Tie in the stem right behind the bead leaving the three barbs on each side of the thorax. Pull the wing case over the thorax leaving the legs extended. Tie off the wing case right behind the bead head. Whip finish. Add some head cement to the wing case and the whip finish. Tony -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Al's fly Re posting
Will send off list Tony Joseph Fusco, Sr. wrote: Tony - Do you have a photo to share? -- Joe Fusco, Sr. REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/9/05, Tony Spezio [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I refer to as Al's Fly is really a modified Winter Fly. Al calls it a Winter Fly B Here is the way I tie it Hook: Scud sz 12, 14 Head: Black brass bead size for hook. Weight: Just enough lead wire to fit in the bead recess Thread: Black Tail: Short strands of Pheasant tail Rib: Fine copper wire Body: Several fibers of pheasant tail wrapped to the thorax. Wing Case: Black crow wing fibers Thorax: Peacock herl Legs: A couple of soft black hen fibers. I use the ones from the JV hens Slip bead on the hook, wrap lead wire. Attach black thread, wrap the shank down the bend a bit Tie in tail fibers, tie in rib wire and body fibers. Wrap body fibers to the thorax. Wrap rib, about 4 to 5 turns. Tie off at thorax, Tie in wing case fibers . Tie in peacock herl and wrap thorax. Tie in three leg fibers on each side. This can be done by taking a hen feather and cutting out the tip of the feather leaving a V in the top. Then strip off all the barbs leaving three barbs on each side where the V is. The barbs and the stem now will form a Y Tie in the stem right behind the bead leaving the three barbs on each side of the thorax. Pull the wing case over the thorax leaving the legs extended. Tie off the wing case right behind the bead head. Whip finish. Add some head cement to the wing case and the whip finish. Tony -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Al's fly Re posting
I can do that Tony Allan Fish wrote: Tony, Could you send me a copy of that photo also please??? Tony, Why don't you send that photo to Byard and have him put it up on the website? Al (different Al from the fly) -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Part III..new LE stuff
David Murphy wrote: Did I mention my new finds of cool products to store hooks, flys, dubbing, etc.? I'm ordering some samples and will send them to Byard with pricing. I'm convinced that Lines End can add some real bargains on some very useful tying accessories which will make Byard's shop even more appealing. This quest to find new sources for stuff we can use in tying is fun. The first guy to open my eyes was Fred Reese whose shop is now gone but he used to dye his own everything and search out all kinds of neat materials before the Internet. The first Graphite rod blank I ever bought came from Fred's shop. It is a 9' 3 wt. Tony T
Re: [VFB] Chili Pepper question
I like sz 14 for summer time and use 10 and 12 for the winter months. Sz 6 and 8 for Carp. Tony Desert Eagle wrote: Tony, or ??? What size hooks do you recommend for the Chili Peppers? Low this morning was -5, now +16, and everything is froze up. Jimi
Re: [VFB] Tony, flies?
The chenille for the Chili Pepper is made by Danville. It is called Copper Tinsel Chenille. It is not Estaze . I have used Root Beer Estaze for other type flies. I like the stuff. Wapsi, Spirit River and other fly companies package the Chenille on cards and it is sold at flyshops. I buy mine in a 144' skein from a local flyshop. I would think that Byard can get it The original Chenille was Copper and Pearl mixed. That was made up specially for my friend Bob Root who tied the first Pepper. It was tied as a joke for me. Long story that I might post some other time. That Chenille is not available as far as I know. I started tying with the Copper Chenille and added a gold bead. This is my version of the original. I had the first thing as I called it on my box for months before Bob talked me into using it. The thing took 13 trout on a row before breaking off. I became a believer. This is still my Go To Fly when all else fails. It has seldom failed me. I have taken about all types of cold and warm water species on it . The Pepper is nothing more than a Copper Woolly Bugger. One thing that I think is important is the marabou used in the tail. The original came from a bargain bin of mis-dyed marabou. Wapsi now has marabou dyed to the right color. It is called Burnt Orange. That is about it for now. I am still a bit under the weather and can't sit for very long. To all that sent me well wishes on or off list, I will reply to you all when I am up to sitting at the computer. Tony Tony Spezio wrote: Hi all Not up to writing now, will go onto the materials and background for the Pepper when I am up to it. Tony Garry V. Wiles wrote: Why does the pattern I have/had seem to use copper/rootbeer eztaz instead? --Garry At 01:58 PM 12/5/2005, you wrote: ... or http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/072803fotw.html for detailed step-by-step. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För David Murphy Skickat: den 5 december 2005 19:51 Till: vfb@troutnet.com Ämne: RE: [VFB] Tony, flies? Try http://virtualflybox.com/patterns/pattern.php?id=1009 until Tony returns. Murf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member: www.virtualflybox.com http://www.virtualflybox.com/ From: Desert Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: vfb@troutnet.com To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: [VFB] Tony, flies? Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 02:04:54 -0700 Tony, When my hard drive crashed I lost your recipe for the Chile Pepper as well as Arts fly, (I think that is the one you have been using a lot lately). Would it be to much to ask for you to send them to me again? I am still trying to find the right color marabou and Chinel around here with no joy. Will probably wind up improvising or just getting creative. Thanks, Jimi With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more. It's free! http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2749??PS=47575 -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Flytying, genetics, Myth?... Part II
Garry V. Wiles wrote: Muf, You bring up two interesting points. The first - where are the bugs going, followed by why aren't we using patterns to match the bugs that are there? I've thought about your post and would like to remind the list two things: 1)I used to be smart and 2)I'm an Idiot (I'm reminded daily by the woman I live with). GEE YOU TOO!! I fall into the second and probably the fastest growing group - I tie what works. Quick, easy ties. (clip) Years ago I was a good tyer. I tied at a lot of the big shows. I am now a tyer that ties what works with what materials that work. In my old age, I am getting to be a Lazy if I might use the word tyer. I just tie what I need for when I am getting on the water. I have been tying for 60 years and have seen the changes from all natural to just about all synthetic. Fish are still being caught by what you cast to them. The stint I did in Commercial tying really took me away from real tying. Now like you, I just tie what works, even it it is just a Chili Pepper. The Pepper and Al's fly is about all I used this season and caught about as many fish as I wanted. I am starting to ramble, might be that I have been cooped up in the house too long. LOL Tony
Re: [VFB] Tony, flies?
Hi all Not up to writing now, will go onto the materials and background for the Pepper when I am up to it. Tony Garry V. Wiles wrote: Why does the pattern I have/had seem to use copper/rootbeer eztaz instead? --Garry At 01:58 PM 12/5/2005, you wrote: ... or http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/072803fotw.html for detailed step-by-step. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För David Murphy Skickat: den 5 december 2005 19:51 Till: vfb@troutnet.com Ämne: RE: [VFB] Tony, flies? Try http://virtualflybox.com/patterns/pattern.php?id=1009 until Tony returns. Murf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member: www.virtualflybox.com http://www.virtualflybox.com/ From: Desert Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: vfb@troutnet.com To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: [VFB] Tony, flies? Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 02:04:54 -0700 Tony, When my hard drive crashed I lost your recipe for the Chile Pepper as well as Arts fly, (I think that is the one you have been using a lot lately). Would it be to much to ask for you to send them to me again? I am still trying to find the right color marabou and Chinel around here with no joy. Will probably wind up improvising or just getting creative. Thanks, Jimi With MSN Spaces email straight to your blog. Upload jokes, photos and more. It's free! http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2749??PS=47575 -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] I am home.
To keep this list related. I have the beads on three dozen hooks for Chili Peppers and Al's fly. Will be tying a lot of flies while I am restricted from going down stairs to the shop. LOL . I am home now and doing pretty good. Still a bit sore but nothing I can't live with. I had Prostrate surgery and was given some meds that did not agree with me. It caused severe chest pains so I was admitted a couple of days later with a possible heart attack. I have a history of heart problems. I was given some blood thinners and this started the prostrate bleeding. Well so it goes on and on. I finally got to come home with restrictions. I am doing ok but a bit uncomfortable. Tony
Re: [VFB] SWORN TO SECRECY BY TONY
I am home now but a bit uncomfortable, everything is fine, I got some good reports today. Will have family here for several days and looking forward to the change in pace. I want to wish all on the list a safe and Happy Thanksgiving Holiday. I have a lot to be thankful for. Tony Allan Fish wrote: I was sworn to secrecy Sunday. Tony Spezio had major surgery yesterday. He asked me to say nothing till today. So here I'm saying it. Since he'll be laid up several days, let's not flood his mail-box with e-mails. It's rough coming home to 1,500 e-mails (especially since I think he's still on dial-up). So float a prayer for speedy recovery his way and send him a card. Here's his address: Anthony Spezio 1599 MC 7019 Flippin, AR 72634 And let's not forget to send an extra-special prayer for Dot. She's going to have to put up with him during recovery - a real curmudgeonly time. Allan -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Your Photographs
Paul, Several months ago I had an old Air force friend stop by that I had not seen in 50 years. He had a photograph of us standing by the B 26 light bomber we crewed, what a shock. Ray was 20 and I was 19. We looked like two little kids standing by a big airplane. Now we look like two old far-- that had been run over by the airplane. When I was in the Air force I weighed 130 and had a 32 waist. I now am approching 76 and have a 40 waist line. When Ray stopped by, he was over 200 pounds. Yes, photos can bring back memories Tony Paul Marriner wrote: Perhaps it's a maudlin Merlot mood, but I've been struck by two recent events. Just last evening I was watching on TV, once again, the pain of those whose lives were devastated by Katrina. So often, the one thing people strove to save, and felt so deeply if they couldn't, were the photographs that chronicled their lives. This was also recognized by a noted US photographer in a magazine article. Not long ago I was contacted by the daughter of an old and treasured friend who passed away several years ago. She had no photographs of her father (as a fly-fisher) to show his grandson. As I write this my scanner is preparing a twenty-photograph series for an album. Remember that what you have captured with your camera, while perhaps of only passing interest to you, may be of immense value to someone else. cheers, Paul -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Your Photographs
It was actually the Douglas A 26 Marauder re-designated as the B 26. It was not The Black Widow I will talk to you off list later so we don't get in trouble. Tony Reuven Segal wrote: Sweet aircraft Tony. I recognise it from study...did an analysis of it. Which of the 3 wars were you involved in? Great a/conly light bomber to go through all three I believe (up to and including Korea). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Spezio Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:34 AM To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Your Photographs Paul, Several months ago I had an old Air force friend stop by that I had not seen in 50 years. He had a photograph of us standing by the B 26 light bomber we crewed, what a shock. Ray was 20 and I was 19. We looked like two little kids standing by a big airplane. Now we look like two old far-- that had been run over by the airplane. When I was in the Air force I weighed 130 and had a 32 waist. I now am approching 76 and have a 40 waist line. When Ray stopped by, he was over 200 pounds. Yes, photos can bring back memories Tony Paul Marriner wrote: Perhaps it's a maudlin Merlot mood, but I've been struck by two recent events. Just last evening I was watching on TV, once again, the pain of those whose lives were devastated by Katrina. So often, the one thing people strove to save, and felt so deeply if they couldn't, were the photographs that chronicled their lives. This was also recognized by a noted US photographer in a magazine article. Not long ago I was contacted by the daughter of an old and treasured friend who passed away several years ago. She had no photographs of her father (as a fly-fisher) to show his grandson. As I write this my scanner is preparing a twenty-photograph series for an album. Remember that what you have captured with your camera, while perhaps of only passing interest to you, may be of immense value to someone else. cheers, Paul -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] A Vegan Explanation...Hans-Eric Swap
I have used Milkweed fluff for bodies on a few dry flies. They float forever I don't know if it will take color from a marking pen. Tony This reminds me of a caddis pattern I used to tie using the matured and open seed pod's white fluff from a cardoon plant (looks almost exactly like an archtichoke and is closely related). The fly floated great but fell apart quickly as the fibers were very brittle. I DID catch trout on it though. Murf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member: www.virtualflybox.com http://www.virtualflybox.com/ From: Eric Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: vfb@troutnet.com To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: [VFB] A Vegan Explanation Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:49:45 -0500 Hans and Niclas. Being vegan does not mean I am against using animal products on flies. It means much research has convinced us we will be able to cast our creations to some of God's most artful work, admire their beauty, release them, and neither us nor them will endure more pain from the experience. It means my joints won't ache after a day at the stream or lake, I can remember the day and if I can avoid being hit by a truck, I can build a lot more memories. We love it and we wish everyone could enjoy it like us. We do wish a Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Make FREE PC-to-PC calls with MSN Messenger. Get it now! http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2752??PS=47575 -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] A Vegan Explanation...Hans-Eric Swap
Same here Tony Jack Morris wrote: When I was a little younger we used to collect milkweed pods for the war effort.(WWII that is) We were told that they were used in life vests. On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, at 08:37 PM, Tony Spezio wrote: I have used Milkweed fluff for bodies on a few dry flies. They float forever I don't know if it will take color from a marking pen. Tony Jack M The worst day on the stream is infinitely better than the best day at the office. -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] Fishing report
Dot and I went to the VFW breakfast this morning, it rained last night and it was real cloudy. On the way home the sun started to shine and there was no wind. When we got to the house, I noticed the river was down and smooth as glass with trout rising. I decided that I would go fishing. It was about 62 degrees. Dot don't like me getting on the river by myself so I called a young couple that I got started flyfishing this spring. They said they would be at the house in an hour or so. I went out the back and noticed the river had come up some, looks like they had released some water and it was just getting to my house. I went down to the dock to run the outboard before they got here. Needless to say it got contrary.. It had not been run in about five weeks. It had started to cloud over again. The clouds, river and the outboard should of been an omen. Got it squared away before they got to the house. We suited up and got on our way. Neither of them had caught a trout yet. We went up to Tucker Shoals, water was not too high to wade there. In the meantime it had clouded over real heavy and looks like more rain headed our way. We got to Tucker headed the boat to the bank and stepped out. I got them situated on a seam and I headed down a ways on the bank. As I started to get in position to cast , the water that was knee deep, I stubbed a rock with my boot , lost my balance and fell. My legs came up from the air trapped in my waders. my butt was on the rocks but I could not get my legs down in order to get up. Art's wife came to my rescue but by that time water had come in from the top of my chest waders. needless to say, I had no control on the urge. Now I was soaked from the neck down to my toes. I thought I could fish for a while but after a dozen casts I decided I had to get back to the house. It is about a half mile. down river. Got home and took a hot shower. Got my waders turned inside out and hanging. I have not made up my mind yet if I will use my other pair if waders and go back out. I left Art and his wife at Tucker and have to go back up there to pick them up later. I would like to get some fishing in today, I will not be able to get on the river for a few weeks. By that time winter will be set in pretty good so today is fish or not. Tony
Re: [VFB] Orange and Black
Some years ago , our tying group tied orange and black flies for Halloween. I think I can find the one I tied. Will be glad to send a photo after I get back on list. Will be off for a week or so. Tony Wes Wada wrote: Rodney recently posted his recipe for an inspired Orange and Black steelhead fly he calls the Ringnecked Pumpkin. Orange and black can make an effective steelhead fly, and can be effective on salmon. For example, here's one by Ralph Cutter called the Goblin: http://www.flyline.com/fly_patterns/streamers/goblin/ Here's a little challenge: what other BIG TROUT STREAMER, STEELHEAD OR SALMON flies can you suggest that are also primarily ORANGE and BLACK? The more effective and better known patterns would be of interest. Links to patterns and photos are helpful. If we can get a big enough response, I will try to put together a web page organizing the results, links photos -- whatever is out there in cyberfishland. Please contribute if you can and thanks. If this message thread goes below the radar and disappears, just pretend it never happened. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Sowbug 2006?
The dates are March 16, 17, 18, 2006 The site should be up and running now. Tony Conranch wrote: Tony or anyone having info. I am sure the dates for the 2006 Sowbug have been set but for the life of me, I can not find them. The Arkansas fly Fishers site is under construction. No help for me there. HELP Denny Dennis Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Conranch Hackle http://www.conranch.com 509-999-7472 -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Sowbug 2006?
Joe, I goofed that's the dates I sent you, It is the 16, 17 18., Thursday, Friday and Saturday Tony Joseph Fusco, Sr. wrote: My information sets the dates as March 15, 16, 17 - give or take a day. -- Joe Fusco, Sr. REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 11/15/05, Conranch [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony or anyone having info. I am sure the dates for the 2006 Sowbug have been set but for the life of me, I can not find them. The Arkansas fly Fishers site is under construction. No help for me there. HELP Denny Dennis Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Conranch Hackle http://www.conranch.com http://www.conranch.com/ 509-999-7472 -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] In glue and dust put we our trust now Cork filler
The brand is FIX FIX WOOD PATCH Light Mahogany made of wood to stain like wood I was just talking to another rodmaker friend, he said he uses cork dust and contact cement. Says it stays flexable and sticks tight. I will have to give that a try Tony Tony Spezio wrote: Nev, I had found a putty that fills and is the color of good cork. I would thin a bit of it with a drop of Acetone so that it would soak in the cork. Tony Neville Gosling wrote: Hi Tony Spezio: As a rod builder, what have you found to be the best for filling imperfections in the corks of the handle? Obviously, if one buys the best
Re: [VFB] Broken Renzetti thumb screw
Bill, I have made several replacements. If I can find the disk I have the photos on, I will send you a photo. Maybe someone on the list I made them for might have a shot handy. I turned a piece of aluminum stock to 7/8 X3/8 thick. Drilled a hole on the back side to press in a allen head screw. Not all the jaws have the same size screws. The outer part of the screw head is serrated. this gives you a press fit. On the outer side, I cut a 3/8 bevel on the outer edge. Drilled and tapped a 8/32 hole on the bevel. This is for the lever. The lever is made from a piece of rosewood turned like a oval barrel, 3/8x 1 1/4 drilled out for a 8/32 screw. The 8/32 screw goes through the hole and screws into aluminum to hold the rosewood lever. The lever now sits out at an angle. Makes a nice lever to tighten the jaws. You might also consider a crank lever handle. Some list members have them too. Tony P.S. I am not making any at this time. William Andreas wrote: Thanks, Jimmy. I bought an extractor and a rethread kit, I know have a 8-32 thumb screw. I am going to play around and hopefully get a better screw adjustment like you are describing. I am not a welder, but I'll track one of my machinists friends down and talk thru something. The thumb screw is a pest particularly when you are tying differents sizes like streamers and then wets. My fingers get chewed up after a while futzing with it. Has to be a better way. Thanks for the post Bill On 11/12/05, Jimmy D. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the thumb screw break on my Renzetti also. What I did was go to the hardware store and buy an allen head screw / bolt and took an allen head wrench that fit into the screw and JB welded it into it and left an elbow sticking out of the head. Sawed the elbow off about one inch from screw and now have a nifty lever to use to tighten, instead of the pesky thumb screw ! JIMMY D -- *** Jimmy D. Moore - Scout Exec. BSA (Ret.), TOWA, TFG Contributor, GRTU Past VP. Past Pres. McGregor Rotary. Freelance Outdoor writer, humorist, half-assed Texan and collector of classic bamboo fly rods and classic golf clubs Author - MOON HOLLER MISFITS Fishing Hunting Club, © JIMMY D's Fly Fishing Website: http://home.earthlink.net/~rayado/rayadoflyfishingflypatternstips/index.html http://home.earthlink.net/%7Erayado/rayadoflyfishingflypatternstips/index.html Being able to read trout streams is just as valuable to a fly fisherman as the ability to read a defense is to an NFL Quarterback. Jimmy D. Moore - © [2004] *** -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Broken Renzitti Vise
What screw, is the broken part still in the vise. If you can get it out, I am sure you can get a replacement from a good hardware store. I have made some levers that replace the thumb screw. Got the replacement screws from a local hardware store. You can check the Renzetti web page for a contact. Tony William Andreas wrote: All, I just broke the screw on my renzetti traveler vise!! Andybody have any suggestions on what to do? Do they take a guaranuteee? Should I take it back to the dealer? I don't go there anymore. Is there something I can do online? Bill -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] In glue and dust put we our trust
Nev, I had found a putty that fills and is the color of good cork. I would thin a bit of it with a drop of Acetone so that it would soak in the cork. I just opened the can the other day only to find it had hardened. I have had the can for several years. I can't seem to find any more of it. It is late now to go to the shop to check the brand, I will send you the info tomorrow. I have tried cork dust and the glues you mentioned. None worked as good as this putty. You are right, good cork is hard to find anymore. I bought several hundred cork rings at a premium price only to reject about 40% of them. Tony Neville Gosling wrote: Hi Tony Spezio: As a rod builder, what have you found to be the best for filling imperfections in the corks of the handle? Obviously, if one buys the best premium cork rings and then select the best from them, you should not need to do any filling, however, for more practical purposes the top grade AAA fluor quality cork rings are not always available or required. I have tried combinations of cork dust and white glue, cork dust and epoxy etc but have never found a combination that has both an acceptable appearance and longevity. As my carpentry teacher used to say: - In glue and dust put we our trust, if that won't do then putty must Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Broken Renzitti Vise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send them an E mail with the problem, I an sure they will take care of it. Tony William Andreas wrote: Yes it is still in the head of the vise, the broken part of he screw that is. On 11/11/05, Tony Spezio [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What screw, is the broken part still in the vise. If you can get it out, I am sure you can get a replacement from a good hardware store. I have made some levers that replace the thumb screw. Got the replacement screws from a local hardware store. You can check the Renzetti web page for a contact. Tony William Andreas wrote: All, I just broke the screw on my renzetti traveler vise!! Andybody have any suggestions on what to do? Do they take a guaranuteee? Should I take it back to the dealer? I don't go there anymore. Is there something I can do online? Bill -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ http://shopnow.netscape.com/ -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Broken Renzitti Vise
How about coming to the Sowbug in March. Tony William Andreas wrote: I have thank you tony. Some day I will be at your house, fishing and tying On 11/11/05, Tony Spezio [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send them an E mail with the problem, I an sure they will take care of it. Tony William Andreas wrote: Yes it is still in the head of the vise, the broken part of he screw that is. On 11/11/05, Tony Spezio [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What screw, is the broken part still in the vise. If you can get it out, I am sure you can get a replacement from a good hardware store. I have made some levers that replace the thumb screw. Got the replacement screws from a local hardware store. You can check the Renzetti web page for a contact. Tony William Andreas wrote: All, I just broke the screw on my renzetti traveler vise!! Andybody have any suggestions on what to do? Do they take a guaranuteee? Should I take it back to the dealer? I don't go there anymore. Is there something I can do online? Bill -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ http://shopnow.netscape.com/ -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] re: acetate reaction
Joyce, I started making ants abs beetles that way about 15 years ago. Netcraft used to sell kits with the floss, Acetone, some patterns and instructions. I still have one of those kits stuck in a box somewhere. I do have a problem with the Acetone smell. The Acetone melts the Acetate floss and it dries to a glossy plastic look. Nice way to make ants and beetle bodies if you can stand the smell of the Acetone. Tony Joyce's crafts and flies wrote: Henk, I've been tying some Moser flies, wherein the body is wrapped with acetate floss and you touch it with acetone to get the chemical reaction thus making the body. I am wondering, just exactly what is happening , in simple terms, that causes this effect? Inquiring minds want to know. Joyce -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] re: acetate reaction
Mine sink. Tony Reuven Segal wrote: If you make an ant of it, and then add the acetone, will it trap bubbles under it and float or will it sink?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Deborah Duran Sent: Friday, 11 November 2005 2:27 AM To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: RE: [VFB] re: acetate reaction Now you have me curious... What brand of floss is acetate? I just have to try this. Deb -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joyce's crafts and flies Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:38 AM To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: [VFB] re: acetate reaction Henk, I've been tying some Moser flies, wherein the body is wrapped with acetate floss and you touch it with acetone to get the chemical reaction thus making the body. I am wondering, just exactly what is happening , in simple terms, that causes this effect? Inquiring minds want to know. Joyce -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] IOFF Swap
Will send my info tomorrow or over the weekend Tony KEITH PASSANT wrote: Hi Ho IOFF'ers, Just a quick request for info. I want to put the flies from the swap on my website and to do it justice I would like to put the patterns on too. Some of you sent the pattern which is great but most just had a toetag. If you wish to withold the pattern I will understand perfectly. If however you dont mind the info going out then send it over OFF LIST to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I will let you know when I have done the pages Many thanks Keith -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] Fishing report,Tuesday afternoon
I have been working on getting a bamboo rod finished and needed a break, been working with a student I am teaching to make rods. We have been hitting it pretty hard for several days. I told my student we would take a break and go fishing. It was to get up into the 80's, pretty warm for November. I wanted to hit Crooked Creek one more time before winter sets in. We got on the creek about two in the afternoon. The beavers had built a dam and the area I like to fish was flooded. Water that is normally to my knees was up to my waist. I tied on a sz 16 rusty brown bugger type fly that was given to me to try. It is a takeoff in the Chili Pepper. Mark tied on a surface popper. Mark connected on about his second cast. It was a 8 smallmouth. I started connecting on my third or fourth cast. My first fish was a 6 smallmouth. Got into a lot of bluegills and other types of bream as they are called here. I tried to keep count but lost count after 50 fish. I did catch a couple more smallmouths, one about 12. Mark was doing well on the popper, he caught a bunch of bream and a largemouth about 1 1/2 pounds. I had a good fish on and broke off the fly I was fishing with. It was the only one I had like it. I tied on a sz 14 soft hackle and it did not do as well as the fly I had on before. I did not have any small Chili Peppers with me. If I had, I would of used it. Things started to slow down in that spot so we decided to move up the creek to another hole that holds some big carp. Mark handed me a red foam popper and told me to give it a try. That popper was dynamite. Hooked up on the first cast. It has been a while since I have fished poppers and this was a real treat. I can't tell you how much fun it was. There was a take on about every cast. Some were small fish that would grab the tail and pull the popper under the surface. I did catch a couple more smallmouths in the 8 range. We saw a number of large Carp but I did not try for them. Mark was trying to get them to take a large Chili Pepper but no luck. The afternoon was getting short of light and we decided to head back to where the truck was parked. Fished on down the creek picking a few fish. All told, I know I hit close to a hundred fish that included a few Roach. Some gills were as big as my hand and some were as small as 4 but a fish is a fish. LOL That was a good way to end the season on Crooked Creek, winter will be here soon and Crooked Creek will be in it's winter sleep. There will be plenty of trout fishing on the White should we have a mild winter. Tony
[VFB] Promised flies
My list of people that I have sent promised flies to and some that I still owe flies to was lost. If I owe you flies or promised some and have not delivered, contact me off list. Sent out a bunch a few weeks ago, not sure I got everyone taken care of. I know we have an HONEST group here. LOL Tony
Re: [VFB] Promised flies
Keith, You of all people, I would believe was as honest as new fallen snow. I could expect something like this from that guy, Don O Do you use worms for bait and get by with calling them Garden Hackle. Respectfully yours, Tony KEITH PASSANT wrote: And as i recall in addition to what Buggs is owed you still have not sent my 4 doz KnitPickin Mayflies yet. If they are not here by tuesday i guess I will just have to put it down to experience !! LOL KP - Original Message - From: DonO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Promised flies Let see...you owe me 2 dozen chili-peppers, a silver doctor, and a fishing trip. Buggs - Original Message - From: Tony Spezio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:19 AM Subject: [VFB] Promised flies My list of people that I have sent promised flies to and some that I still owe flies to was lost. If I owe you flies or promised some and have not delivered, contact me off list. Sent out a bunch a few weeks ago, not sure I got everyone taken care of. I know we have an HONEST group here. LOL Tony -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Promised flies
Will do when you send me two dozen Mouses. . The fishing trip I can take care of if you come to Arkansas or pay my way to Montana. Tony DonO wrote: Let see...you owe me 2 dozen chili-peppers, a silver doctor, and a fishing trip. Buggs - Original Message - From: Tony Spezio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:19 AM Subject: [VFB] Promised flies My list of people that I have sent promised flies to and some that I still owe flies to was lost. If I owe you flies or promised some and have not delivered, contact me off list. Sent out a bunch a few weeks ago, not sure I got everyone taken care of. I know we have an HONEST group here. LOL Tony -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Material Storage Tubes...
DAA Could be. Tony David Murphy wrote: S! Don't let on that I saw some new rods and reels listed on the product list page but there was no link to the product. I'll bet Byard is out casting the rods if he has them already. COULD THESE BE THE RODS TONY WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH? Darned if I know.
Re: Nor-bloc bobbin was: [VFB] Seeking vise info...
Henk, You must have an older bobbin then my old bobbin. The one I have does not have a bolt, it is quick release and a pleasure to use. You explained the flip-flop like it should be said. It is the spool on the auto hub that might have to be flippid. The old spools I have will not fit the new auto hub and the new spools are too loose on the old auto hub. I have to keep them separated so I don't put the wrong color thread on the spool I don't intend to use. I asked Norm is he might still have any old hubs around, I would be more than glad to buy them. He had none at all. On the three new bobbins I have, the weight of the loaded bobbin will extend the thread at least 14 to 18 before it will stop. I tried the wraps around the legs, still too much thread has to be pulled out to pre load. Keeping the spool pre loaded by not letting the thread retract seems to work the best for me. I have it down pat now and don't worry about it anymore. This does not make it handy to use with a standard vise. Tony Henk Verhaar wrote: On 31 Oct, 2005, at 23:11, Larry Johnson wrote: Flip-flop the spool in the bobbin. It is spring-loaded, but only works one direction. See if that will cause it give you the automatic feature you are looking for... Flipping the spool in the bobbin won't work, you need to flip the outer spool on the auto-hub if the thread is wound the wrong way. However, I suspect that what he meant was not that the spool rotated the wrong way, but rather that the hub doesn't have enough tension to stay put. This is a feature (I would say a major flaw) of the new Norbobbins (the ones with quick release hubs). The old ones (with a bolt locking the hub in the frame) have adequate tension. Norm sez that he deliberately designed the new ones with less tension, because he had so many hubs returned with broken springs. A workaround, which Norm suggest himself also, with the new bobbins is to wrap the thread once or twice around one of the legs of the frame. Still doesn't make the thing work like the old ones, but it will usually stay put. I've since moved on to an Ekich automatic bobbin -- takes standard spools and works beautifully. CHeers Henk === (º === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder | tel:035 656 2128 | | Stichts End 17| mobiel: 06 26 136034 | | NL-1244 PK Ankeveen | web:www.xs4all.nl/ ~flyrod | === º) === -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] New Fly Fishing Books
Ho Ho Jimmy don't put that on the list, he might find out the truth. LOL Hope to se you in March. Tony Jimmy D. Moore wrote: NOPE. I share with my fly fishing Buds. Just ask anyone on the list who knows me. :-) Reuven Segal wrote: This reminds me a couple months ago of a mate at the club who heard of an annual clearance sale at a shop 30 mins from town. Stuff was sold at between 10 and 30% of RRP. He told no-one because 'he only found out two days before'. The sale was on ALL tying materials and hooks. For 100 bucks, I would have had enough hooks and materials for a lifetime. Don't tell us you are one of 'these' people!?! -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Henk coming to the US - Somerset show
GG We will let you tie at the Sowbug. Tony Henk Verhaar wrote: On 31 Oct, 2005, at 4:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking forward to meeting you all there, I will not be tying but I (hopefully) wiil be learning some new things. Looking forward to seeing everyone there, Hope to meet you too. === (º === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder | tel:035 656 2128 | | Stichts End 17| mobiel: 06 26 136034 | | NL-1244 PK Ankeveen | web:www.xs4all.nl/~flyrod | === º) === -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] A Great Patterns Book
Jimmy, I have had the book for over 12 years. It is a real reference book. I used to post patterns from it on the old Flytie list. Tony Jimmy D. Moore wrote: This one is choice! Can you imagine a book with 16,000 fly patterns? Well, I got one - bought it through Byard. Title is Perrault's Standard Dictionary of Fishing Flies - Kepcor Books, Daniels Publishing Co, Orlando, FL 1st only edition - 1984. The book is sectioned as follows: Trout Flies - wet and dry, Nymphs, Streamers and Bucktails, Terrestrials, Atlantic Salmon Flies, Lake Flies, Steelhead and Pacific Salmon Flies, Salt Water Flies, Material Suppliers, World Wide Fly Tiers. You name it, this book has it. Only drawback is cost. I paid $50 + for it through Byard, brand new, still in shrink wrap cover. I think the copy I got was the only one Byard had. The book is out of print, but there are several copies available at the link below. Price ranges from $20.60 to $72.85, depending on condition. http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=slst=slqi=jbqs0j9p5t,Cm9PGQj258NffNoo_0998067722_1:1:1 http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=slst=slqi=jbqs0j9p5t,Cm9PGQj258NffNoo_0998067722_1:1:1 CHEERS ! JIMMY D *** Jimmy D. Moore - Scout Exec. BSA (Ret.), TOWA, TFG Contributor, GRTU Past VP. Past Pres. McGregor Rotary. Freelance Outdoor writer, humorist, half-assed Texan and collector of classic bamboo fly rods and classic golf clubs Author - MOON HOLLER MISFITS Fishing Hunting Club, © JIMMY D's Fly Fishing Website: http://home.earthlink.net/~rayado/rayadoflyfishingflypatternstips/index.html Being able to read trout streams is just as valuable to a fly fisherman as the ability to read a defense is to an NFL Quarterback. Jimmy D. Moore - © [2004] *** -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: Nor-bloc bobbin was: [VFB] Seeking vise info...
Henk, The Ekich bobbon is like a snow covered hill and a sled. Too steep for me. LOL Tony Henk Verhaar wrote: On 1 Nov, 2005, at 12:42, Tony Spezio wrote: Henk, You must have an older bobbin then my old bobbin. The one I have does not have a bolt, it is quick release and a pleasure to use. My old bobbins are really old, probably from around 1990. I bought the entire supply at a local flyshop in 1998 or so, where they had been hanging in a rack for as long as I could remember... You explained the flip-flop like it should be said. It is the spool on the auto hub that might have to be flippid. The old spools I have will not fit the new auto hub and the new spools are too loose on the old auto hub. I have to keep them separated so I don't put the wrong color thread on the spool I don't intend to use. I asked Norm is he might still have any old hubs around, I would be more than glad to buy them. He had none at all. On the three new bobbins I have, the weight of the loaded bobbin will extend the thread at least 14 to 18 before it will stop. I tried the wraps around the legs, still too much thread has to be pulled out to pre load. Keeping the spool pre loaded by not letting the thread retract seems to work the best for me. I have it down pat now and don't worry about it anymore. This does not make it handy to use with a standard vise. My experiences exactly. I have a number of delrin spools that I had made for the old bobbins at the mechanical workshop at the University when I worked there. They don't fit the new hubs either. I almost ruined one hub trying to get a delrin spool back off again... Maybe you should check out the Ekich bobbin. The only thing I don't like is, it ain't balanced laterally, so spinning the thread is a pain. cheers Henk === (º === | Dr. Henk J.M. Verhaar | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Ecotoxicoloog en vliegbinder | tel:035 656 2128 | | Stichts End 17| mobiel: 06 26 136034 | | NL-1244 PK Ankeveen | web:www.xs4all.nl/ ~flyrod | === º) === -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] ceramic dubbing rake????
It cuts fur off the skin. Hans gave me one a number of years ago. Tony Reuven Segal wrote: Does anyone use a ceramic dubbing rake? What exactly is it meant to do?? R
Re: [VFB] Seeking vise info...
I wish I had a dozen of the old automatic bobbins, The spring has been changed and the new bobbins have to be pre- loaded and kept that way unless you want to pull out a foot of thread each time you start a fly. Joyce uses a hackle pliers , Larry uses the button on the post, I find that is more to my liking than any other methods I have used. The old bobbins pre loaded with just a short pull on the thread, I really value the one old bobbin I still own. Once you get used to the new bobbins, you find you can cope with them real well. It now it is automatic for me to hold the spool on my palm and twist the thread on the post button to keep the bobbin pre loaded. Check the spool as Larry mentioned, you night have it on backwards. You still have to pre load the spool. Give Norm a call, he will explain it all to you. Reason for changing springs, old springs breaking. I just tied two dozen Chili peppers on my Norlander this morning. I use the Norlander for Bugger type flies when I tie more than just a couple. For most of my other tying, I prefer my Barracuda Jr. Tony Curtis Watts wrote: Larry I just recieved a new Nor-vise but am having trouble getting the automatic bobbin to stay up. is there a trick to wind the thread? Larry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick: I tie on a NorVise. It is a true rotary vise. I love everything about it. Take a look at the midge jaws, and the cam lever option. I also really like the spring-loaded automatic bobbin. It does have a drawback. You have to use the spools which are made to fit it. Regular spools of thread, etc., will not work. You have to transfer the thread/material. This is a negative, but I sure like tying with it. Larry Johnson Springville, Utah [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/31/2005 1:00 PM Folks with vises... When I bought my Danvise, I was very pleased with it. It had of course some things that could have been better, but Well, compared to the one before it, it's more than good enough.. And it sure is a great vise for its price. Though after using it for nearly a year now and after the price factor isn't smoothing out anymore these, once really minor, drawbacks have grown into really annoying ones. I'm looking for something new, but I don't know what I'm looking for. Of course I've been having my eyes on a few ones, so I do know what I'm looking AT... but I don't see any chances to try something out before buying. So, men and women (and others) with vises: What do you think about YOUR OWN vise(s)? You're the ones using them and since you still do, there must be a reason for it, right? I'd like to know both drawbacks and advantages. All info is appreciated. If you're sitting on personal experience of the Griffin Montana Mongoose, that info will be EXTRA appreciated. But, as said, I'd like as much as I can get... regarding everyone's vise. The GMM isn't the only one I consider. (For this reason, it might be prefered to be sent directly to me, since I don't want a private request to be a result of corking up the inboxes for the not interested ones.) PS. To cut it down, the info I seek is in the TRUE ROTARY department. Thanks In Advance! /Nick mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Building a tying Desk/ Center
Pete, I have made several tying stations, I have still have to find the perfect one. One thing that I have done on all of them is make the tool rack to fit the tools I use. The holes in the rack will only take the tool it is made for. The hole is made to fit a certain tool and that tool will always go in the same place on the rack. The holes might be drilled with two different size drill bits to accommodate a tool. The holes for my scissors have a smaller hole drilled first followed by a larger hole. The point goes into the smaller end while the larger part of the blades go in the larger upper part. This keeps the tools upright in their places. The spools of wire are cocked at an angle towards me to make them easy to remove from the pegs. Just a few things I do with my tying stations. Tony Peter Gramp wrote: Hi, everyone- It's cold, frost on the ground, and the water is starting to be too chilly even for neoprene waders... SO! Time for some winter prep for the upcoming season. Here's a quick question for the group that I *hope* isn't THAt far off topic: We all need something to tie on, and storage for materials to boot. I was thinking of building a corner- fit reloading desk, of sorts, but used as a tying bench and storage cabinet. The question is: What are some of the nice perks that you have in, on, or around your tying bench that would make for a better bench? I don't know if this is list- worthy, but until I hear otherwise, I'm guessing it's fine... I know this was a thread previously, and I;m sure there are others who could make use of this information. Tying tools and equipment are a given (vise, bobbin, etc) but I was curious of the rest of it (magnetic edges to keep hooks from the floor, a clothesline of twine for drying flies, built-in electric socket for lighting, etc) Thanks in advance, and tight wraps, Pete -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] VT. Tom
Tom Contact me off list. Tony
Re: [VFB] Vest Question???
Clip the hemostats to a pocket flap and a chain through one of the handle loops. Put the clippers on a zinger ring. The rest is up to you Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks: Long time, no post LOL... I been kinda sick, with my sinuses which always happens first time it turns cold.. Got better, then My Grand Son and Daughter in Law came up this weekend from FL, so had to spoil him while he was up.. Anyway, my wife (Finally LOL) bought me a Fly Fishing Vest... Has 20 or 22 pockets... Is there any guidelines as to what to put in which pockets??? Or is it to each his or her own??? Just wondering cause I have changed the things around about 10 times in two outings I've had with it, trying to get the things I use most (hemostats, nail clippers, reading glasses,plastic containers of flies.. in the most convenient pockets... Thanks for any tips Chuck Boos Books and Bargains... See all my Amazon listings here for great deals on books.. http://tinyurl.com/9ag7k -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Re: steelhead flies
Gerry, some years ago we hosted a Boy Scout from Ichikawa, Japan. We lost tract of him some years ago. Tony gerich77 wrote: Hi, I don't post very often but this post caught my eye, since I just got back from a steelhead trip to the Grande Ronde River in Washington, and have a new favorite steelhead fly--a dry fly that works very well there. I had originally tied these flies to use in BC but never did and they were still in my steelhead box. The fly is a small (size 6) Bulkley Mouse. When hitched in the proper place (behind the collar) they float and wake like a champ. On this trip I caught my first dry fly steelies with a spey rod, what a thrill to see the fly disappear in a swirl. I used a natural color one during the day and a black one in the evening. I'm going to tie them with a small tuft of pink on top, so I can track the fly better in choppy water. In my book this fly is a definite winner!--Gerry Ichikawa On 10/26/05, Garry V. Wiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:29 PM 10/26/2005, you wrote: So..what are your current favorite steelhead flies? I just finished a bunch of pearl colored Deschutes Madness flies and wish to know what you're tying. As they say, inquiring minds want to know. Joyce Joyce, Since I'm guessing your fishing for steel in larger rivers that what PA offers, I don't really have a good idea on what to tell you. In PA, our steelhead run up trout sized streams as the water temp/flow permits. The standard patterns here are the egg pattern group - Sucker Spawn, Crystal Meth, Glo-Bugs. I also use an Estaz Egg, which is nothing more than Estaz in steelhead colors (chart, pink, white, orange) palmered up a hook. I mix mine up too by adding a gold beadhead to all those patterns as well as krystal flash tails as well. I'm in the Steelhead Swap and am tying a concept type fly. I also found an idea in an old magazine I was going through -- 'steelhead' a nymph pattern. Here's what ya do -- take a staple pattern - ie a Pheasant Tail Nymph. Tie it as you normally would, until you get to the thorax. At that point, mix it up - I take chart. estaz and make THAT the thorax. Finish as normal. That combo has probably been my No.1 goto fly since I've tried it. Works just as good or better than the original PTN's on the stream. That pretty much describes my flybox for steelhead. I have the woolybuggers and other stuff you'll see listed on fisherie.com http://fisherie.com's website. I want to add some sort of bucktail streamers for next trip though -- they seem to have been working lately. Hope this helps. Garry Da'Burgh, PA Is It Fishin' Time Yet? -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Tony Others .. Tying materials storage.And teaching my fly tying classes
No problem Glen, I have been on the run for the past three months. Things are slowing down a bit and am trying to get caught up on Promised Flies. I have the bamboo rod tapers saved and will get some of them made over the winter. I have just finished reading a book The Beaverkill. What a book about the history of the Beaverkill, Willowemac, Mongaup Creek and others. The history of the Dette's and the Darbee's, Roy Steenrod , Rube Cross , Art Flick and a lot of others. I was in Rosco and Livingston Manor six weeks ago, got to tie at the Flyfishing Center. Stayed at the Rosco Motel right on the Beaverkill. I hope to get back there next September again, for the Bamboo Rod Gathering. Now that I know more about the area, I want to see some of the places I read about. Glad it was not destroyed with the Dam they proposed to build on the Beaverkill. Tony Glenn Overton wrote: Tony , Sorry not getting back to you sooner ,I hope you like the historic rod tapers I sent you and it was tapers that turn out to be their number one personal favorite rod .from these wonderful rod makers ,Bill Tobin and Bill Taylor. Several times at Darbees between hatches I would do their yard work and mow their grass and feed their chickens . NOW FOR ALL THOSE TEACHERS OF THIS WONDERFUL CRAFTFOR MY FLY TYING CLASS I ALWAYS PUT TOGETHER ONE FLY PATTERN IN ONE ZIP LOCK BAG WITH ENOUGH MATERIAL FOR EVERYONE , I USUALLY SET UP ENOUGH FOR A HALF DOZEN DIFFERENT PATTERNS . THIS IS WHY ALL MY
Re: [VFB] IOFF flies
Just got mine a bit ago. One of the best swaps I have been in. Thanks for the goodies Murf, they will come in handy but you forgot to put the bait bucket in the box. Having seen some of these tyers tie at the Sowbug, I was able to put some tyers names to flies before I even read the labels. Tony Ed Roden wrote: Don't worry Janet, I haven't either - I eagerly check the box each night, and alas, nothing On 10/25/05, Bob Janet Schimpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wah! I haven't got mine yet! Janet -- Ed Roden flyfished at gmail dot com - OR - flyfished at questquality dot com -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Attn: Tony S
Glad to know the flies work across the sea also. Thanks for the report. Tony Reuven Segal wrote: Tony: Please send me a copy.as well sometime. I can only find the Al's Crawfish...or something like that. BTW Although I haven't had a chance to fish yet this season because of studies, I gave a mate some of the caddis emerger cripple flies that I tied up from your instructions and he bagged three rainbows and a brown, each around the 3 pound mark. I just love tying those little guys. Thanks, Reuven -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Tying materials storage.
I put the materials in a ziplock bag for the fly I will be tying. I only take what I need to tie each fly. Normally I tie three to four different flies. That means that I carry three to four ziplock bags with just enough materials to tie about a dozen of each fly. The ziplock bags are marked on the outside with a marking pen for the fly the materials will tie. I have built a tying station that will fit in a aluminum camera case that hold all the tools I need and the bobbins with thread. All of this stays on the tying station. I do remove the vise and lay it flat on the tying station. The ziplock bags are laid on top of the vise. My battery powered tying light is in the case too. This makes a neat compact traveling kit and only takes me a couple of minuets to set up. Over the years I learned to carry only what I need to tie the flies that I will be doing demo tying on. What if I might be asked to tie a fly that I had not planned on tying, I just borrow what I need from the guy that uses a hand truck to carry in his tying materials. LOL Tony KEITH PASSANT wrote: OK guys n gals fess up. When you travel to tie at shows or go to a camp or such and take materials with you how do you store your kit for travel? I have tried all sorts from tying boxes, to tool boxes, bags to suitcases and am not happy with any of the methods. What system do you use? Home build or shop bought? ALL ideas welcomed KP the storeless one -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] Al's, Fly
I posted this on July 7. This has been a very productive fly for me this year. Most of my fishing has been with the Chili Pepper and Al's fly this season. A couple of weeks ago I finally fished my 1 wt bamboo rod I made. Used a sz 16 Al's fly for the whole time I was out. Caught 46 fish. All were warm water fish from Crooked Creek. Most were bluegills about the size of my hand. Did get a smallmouth about 6 long. On an earlier fishing trip to CC, I hooked a Carp on a sz 12 Al's fly, it straightened out the hook. I just sent some shots to Joyce. If someone would like to post the photos on their website, I would be glad to send then along. Maybe Byard will chime in. Tony What I refer to as Al's Fly is really a modified Winter Fly. Al calls it a Winter Fly B Here is the way I tie it Hook: Scud sz 12, 14 Head: Black brass bead size for hook. Weight: Just enough lead wire to fit in the bead recess Thread: Black Tail: Short strands of Pheasant tail Rib: Fine copper wire Body: Several fibers of pheasant tail wrapped to the thorax. Wing Case: Black crow wing fibers Thorax: Peacock herl Legs: A couple of soft black hen fibers. I use the ones from the JV hens Slip bead on the hook, wrap lead wire. Attach black thread, wrap the shank down the bend a bit Tie in tail fibers, tie in rib wire and body fibers. Wrap body fibers to the thorax. Wrap rib, about 4 to 5 turns. Tie off at thorax, Tie in wing case fibers . Tie in peacock herl and wrap thorax. Tie in three leg fibers on each side. This can be done by taking a hen feather and cutting out the tip of the feather leaving a V in the top. Then strip off all the barbs leaving three barbs on each side where the V is. The barbs and the stem now will form a Y Tie in the stem right behind the bead leaving the three barbs on each side of the thorax. Pull the wing case over the thorax leaving the legs extended. Tie off the wing case right behind the bead head. Whip finish. Add some head cement to the wing case and the whip finish. Tony
Re: [VFB] Al's, Fly
Will do Tony Bill and Tina wrote: Send it over Tony, I'll post it at www.nwtroutchaser.com BP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Spezio Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:51 AM To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: [VFB] Al's, Fly I posted this on July 7. This has been a very productive fly for me this year. Most of my fishing has been with the Chili Pepper and Al's fly this season. A couple of weeks ago I finally fished my 1 wt bamboo rod I made. Used a sz 16 Al's fly for the whole time I was out. Caught 46 fish. All were warm water fish from Crooked Creek. Most were bluegills about the size of my hand. Did get a smallmouth about 6 long. On an earlier fishing trip to CC, I hooked a Carp on a sz 12 Al's fly, it straightened out the hook. I just sent some shots to Joyce. If someone would like to post the photos on their website, I would be glad to send then along. Maybe Byard will chime in. Tony What I refer to as Al's Fly is really a modified Winter Fly. Al calls it a Winter Fly B Here is the way I tie it Hook: Scud sz 12, 14 Head: Black brass bead size for hook. Weight: Just enough lead wire to fit in the bead recess Thread: Black Tail: Short strands of Pheasant tail Rib: Fine copper wire Body: Several fibers of pheasant tail wrapped to the thorax. Wing Case: Black crow wing fibers Thorax: Peacock herl Legs: A couple of soft black hen fibers. I use the ones from the JV hens Slip bead on the hook, wrap lead wire. Attach black thread, wrap the shank down the bend a bit Tie in tail fibers, tie in rib wire and body fibers. Wrap body fibers to the thorax. Wrap rib, about 4 to 5 turns. Tie off at thorax, Tie in wing case fibers . Tie in peacock herl and wrap thorax. Tie in three leg fibers on each side. This can be done by taking a hen feather and cutting out the tip of the feather leaving a V in the top. Then strip off all the barbs leaving three barbs on each side where the V is. The barbs and the stem now will form a Y Tie in the stem right behind the bead leaving the three barbs on each side of the thorax. Pull the wing case over the thorax leaving the legs extended. Tie off the wing case right behind the bead head. Whip finish. Add some head cement to the wing case and the whip finish. Tony -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] Al Fly
Just a comment on the fly on the photos. This one has a Gold Bead , is a sz 12 and has been used quite a bit. It has caught a good number of fish. It seems that the more ragged it gets the better it works. Tony
Re: [VFB] re: Al's fly..once again
Joyce, It came from me. Too tired tonight to look it up, been a long day. Will send it tomorrow. Tony Joyce's crafts and flies wrote: Some time ago we had a fly pattern called Al's fly or Al's winter fly B..I have lost my picture and tying instructions..so, would someone who has this pattern and picture, kindly send it to me. I thought that it came originally from Tony Spezio, or Don but may have been mistaken in those assumptions. Thanks. Joyce -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Re: Alan Fish in Hospital
Just got a message from Allan, I will give him a call this evening.. I will let him tell the list what he wants to. It was a personal message. Tony Deborah Duran wrote: Allan told me he was going in to have a stint placed in his heart. He didn't think it was too serious, but all of us should keep him and the Missus in our prayers. He said he'd keep me posted. Will let all know as soon as I hear anything. JD JIMMY D Larry Johnson wrote: Deb: Allan (Fish) e-mailed me late last week that he was going into the hospital. He didn't indicate what the reason was. He asked me to hold back on the e-mail, so that they could keep the space available for family Larry Johnson Springville, Utah [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/18/2005 7:31 PM Buck I don't have your email... Have you heard from Allan or his wife yet? Has anyone heard from either of them? Warm Regards, Deb www.uftri.com -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] One last book
I have not seen this title, where can I get some info on it. Tony Harmen Boshuis wrote: Tying Flies With Cdc: The Fisherman's Miracle Feather by Leon Links Yep, as he is a Dutchman, we over here all have it ;-) It looks interesting. Would it be recommended?? Yes, as an introduction to CDC tying and patterns it is a useful book. Henk Now I know why I just had to have this book ;) Harmen -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] New Rod and Fishing report (LONG)
We had a real nice visit. Learned a lot about taking photos of flies. The lighting is real important. Had a good day on the river, not too many trout but enough to make it interesting. Good chance he might make the Sowbug. Tony Larry Johnson wrote: Tony: I always enjoy your reports. Tell Hans hello for all of us. I met him on one of his trips to Utah. Interesting guy, loaded with information. Take care. Hope to see you again in March Larry Johnson Spriingville, Utah [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/6/2005 8:57:32 AM First of all I have no commercial interest in these rods. I am pretty sure Byard will be handling them in the near future. I had mentioned in a previous post that I got one of the experimental blanks. I had been invited on a guide trip and would of liked to try out the rod. I was going to wrap it myself but due to time restrictions I would not get to it for several weeks. Jeff said, Get the guides in place where you want them along with the grip and reel seat and I will wrap it for you so you can use it on Wednesday (yesterday). I picked up the rod on Tuesday afternoon went home and lawn cast it. I found with my casting style, I was not loading the rod with the 4 wt line,( mind you I said this is an experimental 4 wt blank). I then tried a 5 wt line and the rod came to life. That was it had to get things done for the upcoming Guide trip in the morning. Yesterday morning was a clear bright morning. The guide picked up Fred and myself at the Flyshop at 8 am. He decided to take us to the Trophy area at the dam on the White. The catching can be tough there but the fish are big. We started out wading and casting to rises but the fish did not cooperate. A cigarette but came floating down and it had rises to it all the way down. This should of given us a hint on what was going on, more on that later. The horn sounded telling us they were going to release water in five minuets, When the water started running, it sometimes turns the fish on and Fred hooked into and landed a 2 pound Rainbow. Water was getting too high to fish safely so we launched the boar . Headed up to the dam and drifted down then made runs back up. The guide rigged us up with large white strike indicators, We were getting a lot of hits in the indicators but none on the flies. That again should of been telling us what the trout were taking. After drifting for a couple of hours with no luck. I had commented that we might tie a piece of white foam to a hook and try that. The guide then dug in the bottom of his pack and came up with a big white deer hair bass bug and a white foam thing??. We tied them on and about the second ot third cast, Fred connected. It was a football rainbow of about three pounds. Then I connected, a Cutt that was 2+ pounds. These fish had the bellies so full, they looked this they would burst. We finally figured out what was going on. Shad were coming through the generators, not normal for this time of the year. The trout were keyed in on the shad. I did not count the number of trout we hooked but did not land but it was more that we brought to the net. For the next few hours it was a lot of action. Fred got one Rainbow that had to go 4 pounds and all of my trout were over 2 pounds. We were on the river almost 10 hours. Now about the rod. This trip gave it a good workout. At times it was bent in a fill 180 degrees with the tip under the boat. I had no breakoffs with 5X tippet. The rod is on the soft side and is designed to cast and work like a bamboo rod. I would say, Ray hit it real close as I do fish bamboo. I will get with Ray at the Conclave tomorrow and have him cast the rod at the Casting pool. He did not get to cast it before I picked it up. Looking forward to getting mt 2 wt blank. Will be doing a Guide trip with Hans on Monday, will give the rod another workout. Tony -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] Fishing today
Just got in from a full day float trip on the White with Hans. We had a real good day floating in a drift boat with a guide friend and wading some good areas of the river. Hans will be leaving in the morning, we did not get to fish Tucker this time, hope to do it another time. Tony
[VFB] Conclave
I sent this earlier, it bounced. I might add, Hans is here photographimg flies Tony It was a good Conclave. I am tired but content. I had planned on tying some of the Paraloop flies but I was asked for Chili Peppers and Froggies. I spent half of the time tying at the table and the other half of the day as a tying coach. Even coaching, I was asked to tie Chili Peppers. I was ready to leave , was all packed up when Joe Myers came buy and asked if I had a spare Chili Pepper. Jeff Fry, Hans Weilanham, Mark Romaro and Bruce Whittle, Joe A. And Larry C. from the list were present. I think there might of been a couple of others but I can't remember at this time. Hans is out fishing with Mark, I was too tired to go this morning. Hans and I will be doing a guide float trip tomorrow , he will be at my house for a couple of nights. Tony
[VFB] New Rod and Fishing report (LONG)
First of all I have no commercial interest in these rods. I am pretty sure Byard will be handling them in the near future. I had mentioned in a previous post that I got one of the experimental blanks. I had been invited on a guide trip and would of liked to try out the rod. I was going to wrap it myself but due to time restrictions I would not get to it for several weeks. Jeff said, Get the guides in place where you want them along with the grip and reel seat and I will wrap it for you so you can use it on Wednesday (yesterday). I picked up the rod on Tuesday afternoon went home and lawn cast it. I found with my casting style, I was not loading the rod with the 4 wt line,( mind you I said this is an experimental 4 wt blank). I then tried a 5 wt line and the rod came to life. That was it had to get things done for the upcoming Guide trip in the morning. Yesterday morning was a clear bright morning. The guide picked up Fred and myself at the Flyshop at 8 am. He decided to take us to the Trophy area at the dam on the White. The catching can be tough there but the fish are big. We started out wading and casting to rises but the fish did not cooperate. A cigarette but came floating down and it had rises to it all the way down. This should of given us a hint on what was going on, more on that later. The horn sounded telling us they were going to release water in five minuets, When the water started running, it sometimes turns the fish on and Fred hooked into and landed a 2 pound Rainbow. Water was getting too high to fish safely so we launched the boar . Headed up to the dam and drifted down then made runs back up. The guide rigged us up with large white strike indicators, We were getting a lot of hits in the indicators but none on the flies. That again should of been telling us what the trout were taking. After drifting for a couple of hours with no luck. I had commented that we might tie a piece of white foam to a hook and try that. The guide then dug in the bottom of his pack and came up with a big white deer hair bass bug and a white foam thing??. We tied them on and about the second ot third cast, Fred connected. It was a football rainbow of about three pounds. Then I connected, a Cutt that was 2+ pounds. These fish had the bellies so full, they looked this they would burst. We finally figured out what was going on. Shad were coming through the generators, not normal for this time of the year. The trout were keyed in on the shad. I did not count the number of trout we hooked but did not land but it was more that we brought to the net. For the next few hours it was a lot of action. Fred got one Rainbow that had to go 4 pounds and all of my trout were over 2 pounds. We were on the river almost 10 hours. Now about the rod. This trip gave it a good workout. At times it was bent in a fill 180 degrees with the tip under the boat. I had no breakoffs with 5X tippet. The rod is on the soft side and is designed to cast and work like a bamboo rod. I would say, Ray hit it real close as I do fish bamboo. I will get with Ray at the Conclave tomorrow and have him cast the rod at the Casting pool. He did not get to cast it before I picked it up. Looking forward to getting mt 2 wt blank. Will be doing a Guide trip with Hans on Monday, will give the rod another workout. Tony
[VFB] Late off list replies
Will be late on off list replies, going to be tied up with the Conclave and friends till Tuesday. Arkansas Tony
[VFB] Fishing report 1 wt bamboo rod
I posted this on the rodmakers list last night. Last year when I asked about a taper for a 1 wt bamboo rod I kind of got some flack. With the help of a list member we came up with a 1 wt taper based on the Sir D. It is a 6'3 true 1 wt bamboo rod. It was first cast at the SRG last year and got favorable comments. I also had it at the Catskill Gathering last month and also receive favorable comments. I decided to get out and fish it this evening . Headed to Crooked Creek with Mark Romaro from Rosco N.Y. and Fred Dupre from Dallas. Fred had the five wt I made for him this past July. I had not cast the 1 wt on water so this would be the first time to do it. Crooked Creek is my fun place to fish. Lots of bluegill and smallmouths along with some big carp. I tied on a sz 16 emerger and that same fly was used for the full time we were out. I got a hookup on the third cast. It was a nice palm size gill. Then hooked up with a 6 roach. The rod met all of my expectations and cleared some of the doubts I might of had about such a light rod. I was making easy 30' + casts when I needed to. Much over that I could not make a good hook set. Most of the fish caught and released were palm size gills with a few more roach and a shiner or two. I did catch one small (6) smallmouth Total of 46 fish on the 1 wt. Just before leaving I handed the 1 wt to Fred. He really liked the rod. He had handed me the 5 wt so I made a cast and hooked up with a palm size gill on the first cast. Then Mark cast the 1 wt and told me he was kind if concerned about casting such a light rod. That concern went away after the first few casts. Needless to say, I am more than pleased with the rod and the way it handles the palm size gills. This is the prototype, I have made four for clients and they are all pleased with them. One client fished his 1 wt in Wyoming for native brook trout, he was real happy with it. Fred was fishing for Smallmouths with a large fly. He got six large smallmouths. Mark got about a dozen Gills. Arkansas Tony
Re: [VFB] Southern Council Conclave
Jeff, Look me up, I will be tying Friday and Saturday half sessions and Coaching the other half sessions. Tony Jeff Frye wrote: I am heading to Mountain Home, AR on Thursday to represent our new FFF club from Lawrence, KS. Between a little fishing and some learning, I will be focusing on meeting folks from other clubs and trying to learn what makes their clubs fun and healthy. I am wondering if any of you are attending and where I might cross paths. Looking forward to a fun weekend. -Jeff __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Southern Council Conclave
Mark, sorry you have to miss it, maybe by Sowbug time you might be settled enough to make it. Tony Mark Delaney wrote: Not, this year Jeff. I'm still in Texarkana waiting for word fi/when we can head back to Lake Charles. Say hi to Tony and any others you might see. If you see Catch cormier from Baton Rouge, tell hime that we are all rigfht and just waiting for power to be restored to Lake Charles. Mark Delaney On 10/1/05, Jeff Frye [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am heading to Mountain Home, AR on Thursday to represent our new FFF club from Lawrence, KS. Between a little fishing and some learning, I will be focusing on meeting folks from other clubs and trying to learn what makes their clubs fun and healthy. I am wondering if any of you are attending and where I might cross paths. Looking forward to a fun weekend. -Jeff __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- So much water, so little time! http://chemprof.tripod.com/fishing.html http://chemprof.tripod.com/fishing.html -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] New Rods
Jim, I will ask them about doing it. Tony Jim Collins wrote: Hi Tony, Those blanks sound awesome! I look forward to when they will be available commercially. Just out of curiosity, any chance of running the common cents test on one of them - it would be interesting to see how that checks out against what this mfg. says is the line rating. Jim Collins Fishing is not a matter of life or death. It's much more important than that! -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] New Rods
Jim, I went by there today and talked to Ray about doing the Common Cents thing. I took the info you sent and left it to Ray for copying. I also took my 1 wt line with me and my bamboo 1 wt rod. I wanted Ray to cast it and compare it with the two rods we have been casting. I suggested trying the 1 wt on the two rods we had been casting. We both decided that each rod would cast a 1, 2 and 3 wt line equally well. That would make these rods a multi line wt rod. Let's see what the Common Cents setup says. Ray will get a board set up as soon he can get to it. We played with the two rods too long, I had to leave and Ray did not get to cast my 1 wt bamboo rod. Will take it by for him to cast tomorrow. I put in my order for the 7'6 blank, I just have to have one. Tony Jim Collins wrote: Hi Tony, Those blanks sound awesome! I look forward to when they will be available commercially. Just out of curiosity, any chance of running the common cents test on one of them - it would be interesting to see how that checks out against what this mfg. says is the line rating. Jim Collins Fishing is not a matter of life or death. It's much more important than that! -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
Re: [VFB] Murf?- Mark Romero
Was with Mark week before last, when I was in Upstate N.Y. at a bamboo rod Gathering held at the Catskill FF Center. He is fighting a mold problem and clean up from the flood a while back. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Deb, I guess that explains it LOL Ray -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] New Rods
With Byard's permission I will post this, Byard might be carrying these rods at Line's end. I wrote this post before I went on my trip four weeks ago. Byard was also gone at that time so I waited till I could talk to him about posting. I do some rod casting for a local rod company that makes their own blanks. Dorber has been mentioned on this list at times by list members that have purchased rods and blanks from them. I was so enthused, I just have to tell someone about these rods. These rods are made from a special woven graphite that is very strong and has a checkerboard pattern They are beautiful. I picked up the 4 wt and could not believe how light it was, Just made a flip to get some line out and it shot all the line I had pulled off the reel. This was into a brisk wind. When I finally got to really casting it I was astounded, with a good flip, I shot out over 60' of line. No effort at all . Casting this rod was a total pleasure. I have not cast another rod like it. It cast like bamboo, with a feel of graphite. I really don't know any other way to say how it feels. It is one of the lightest 4 wt rods I have ever cast. Then I picked up the 2 wt. On the 2 wt, the guides were just taped on as was the grip and reel seat. The rod was almost nothing in my hand as to weight. When I made the first flip, I knew they had another winner. A person has to cast this rod to believe what it will do. I personally think these rods will cast a 1 wt lower and a 1 wt higher lines with no problem at all. I did not have time to check this out, Ray will do it while I am gone. I will try it after I get back next month. I will also cast the 3 and 5 wt versions. These rods are still in the experimental stage and none are for sale at this time. I have over 50 rods and some blanks sitting around to be wrapped but I will be buying one of the first 4 wt blanks when they start selling them. Then I will get a 2 wt. I still can not believe how light these rods are and how effortless they cast. Tony Since I wrote the above I was back yesterday and today doing some more casting on some new prototypes A 7' 3 wt and a 7.5' 2 wt that might be a 3/2 wt. My casting style works better with a 3 wt on the 7'.6 and 2 wt on the 7'. We weighed the rods today, the 7' 6 weighed 1.8 oz and the 7' weighed 1.6 oz. That is with the plastic wrap on the grip and reel seat that weighs 1 oz. These rods are made with a new graphite that is called Ultra Weave. These rods are about as crush proof as you can get. I put all my weight standing on the blank rolling it under my feet and no damage. I am still amazed at these rods. I have no financial connection other they give me a break on rod stuff I buy. The big thrill came yesterday when Ray said he had a 4 wt blank for me. I can't wait till I can fish it. More on that after I get on the river with it. These rods are not for sale yet, they should be soon. There is a good chance you will be able to get them at Line's End. Tony
Re: [VFB] Fly Proportions
Chuck, If you should come across another copy someplace, Please pick it up for me. I missed getting a copy. Thanks, Tony Chuck Alexander wrote: Folks: I showed a cpl ppl here my flies, and they both told me that one of the main things to work on are fly proportions.. Just so happened that I bought the Sept 2005 edition of Flyfisherman Magazine (HOPE that ain't considered advertising for them, just telling what I found).. Anyway, it came with an extra 36 page Booklet that has 21 fly patterns, but the first two pages are on Fly Proportions, and have pics, and measurements on a Nymph and a Dry Fly.. So if anybody else is new here, and having these same problems, or don't know what the proportions should be, this might help you, Chuck -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
[VFB] Fly Fisherman Magazine
I missed getting a copy, if anyone has an extra copy with the pattern booklet or just the booklet they would like to let go, contact me off list. Tony magazine
Re: [VFB] help please
Check the recycle bin, About two months ago, my in box file just disappeared. I checked the recycle bin and found a big file there. Restored it and my in Box came back. Don't know if that will help. We were going to do a personal fly trade this winter. Tony Tony Reuven Segal wrote: To all VFBers: My outlook files got moved/disappeared (anyone know what to do to find them???) so I have no idea of anyone’s info nor what I promised them. Please remind me what was due to and to whom. This goes for materials promised and swaps. Apologies for the trouble caused. Reuven -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
