[videoblogging] Re: wordpress and enclosures

2005-08-11 Thread Adrian Miles




around the 9/8/05 Pete Prodoehl mentioned about [videoblogging] Re: 
wordpress and enclosures that:
Are you looking to control the enclosure as it appears in the RSS
feed? You should be able to edit the custom field to do that. When you
add a rel=enclosure to your link in a WP post, it will create a
custom field named 'enclosure' that has something like this in it:

thanks Pete

yep, its the custom field I need to edit (amazing what you find when 
you actually look :-))
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cheers
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fun With CamStudio

2005-08-11 Thread Sheldon Pineo




On 8/10/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 did you manage to get both audio from mic and speakers or able to switch
 back and forth during the recording?

I selected Record from speakers. This captured the sound from the
website and my commentary. When setting up for recording, you have to
play with the speaker volume to be able to hear the computer, but
avoid feedback.

The music was added in editing.

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[videoblogging] Roommates

2005-08-11 Thread Adam Quirk



My roommate Rick posted his first video at our new video/photo blog:

http://regencyballroom.blogspot.com/

http://feeds.feedburner.com/RegencyBallroom-- _ Quirk_ Bullemhead.com





  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] press releases

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Sullivan



honestly folks... i think we all know when something becomes a
problem... and a few relevant press releases is not something to get
all worked up about. the key is that it pertains to open/indie
media distribution/publishing technology and the like. 

as stated, i would enjoy a more personal approach, but i can handle a few official press releases coming down the pipe.
lets remain loose while filtering the real crap... which has been non-existent of late =)

cheers!

sullOn 8/10/05, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since I've been snarfing up press releases for the Vlog Press Kit I don'tparticularly mind, but certainly understand how the rest of the group mightfind them not in keeping with the atmosphere we aspire to foster.
Perhaps if we think of these press releases as learning tools rather thaninsults they would be more palatable.Was that a good press release? What if you were a real journalist andreceived it? Would you be motivated to follow up?
Jan--It isn't done alone. Pay more.http://fauxpress.blogspot.comhttp://blog.urbanartadventures.com
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petertheman wrote: Here's an idea. If you launch a new service or feature, don't send a press release to this group. Instead, actually write a message, as a human being.I completely agree with that approach. Press releases don't exactly
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[videoblogging] hmmm....

2005-08-11 Thread Andrew Baron




I just logged in and noticed there are no messages. A glitch? What a strange feeling to 
imagine that this group disappeared.








  
  
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[videoblogging] O'Reilly: What Is Vlogging (and How to Get Started)

2005-08-11 Thread Ryan Ozawa




What Is Vlogging (and How to Get Started)
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2005/07/27/vlog.html

Vlogging is short for video blogging, also known as vodcasting. When
Apple enabled iTunes to subscribe to Podcasts, they opened the door to
syndicated feeds. Almost all blogs provide syndicated feeds--through
RSS, Atom, and the like--and some feeds provide enclosures. It is
within the enclosures that the audio portion of any given podcast is
provided. But enclosures aren't limited to audio. They can contain
video, too. Vlogging is the practice of attaching video to RSS and
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Re: [videoblogging] Editing question...ugly moving text objects and frame rate?

2005-08-11 Thread Joshua Paul


You may also want to try 'deinterlacing' your final project. It may help, but YMMV.- joshOn Aug 10, 2005, at 4:04 PM, Jan wrote:  This is exactly the place to ask, Devlon :)  First, tell us everything you've done, including the software  compression  settings you used (all the natty little details), and then whoever has  expertise in those things can knowledgeably answer.  Jan  --  "It isn't done alone. Pay more." http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://blog.urbanartadventures.com http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com http://the-hold.blogspot.com  - Original Message -  From: "Devlon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:10 PM Subject: [videoblogging] Editing question...ugly moving text objects and  frame rate?If this isn't the place for this question, please forgive me and tell  me to piss off, but...   I have noticed that sometimes if I have text (title frame) or  picture-in-picture motion (one clip moving, resizing to give that  picture-in-picture effect) and it's going too fast, that I get this  'liney' look to it.   The text (for example) will look as though it is broken up into lines,  the edges are 'edgy', overall it's not very smooth.   A good example is the ending bits to my "white guy eats foreign foods"  vlogs (http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com)   ...or the credits at the end of the santa clip on "byte me"  (http://8bitme.blogspot.com/2005/08/santa-on-vacation.html)   I suspect it's is because the rate of motion is not right for the  frame rate?  I am a total newbie when it comes to editing, etc.   I'd like to know what's going on so I can fix this.   --   ~Devlon  http://8bitme.blogspot.com  http://whiteguyforeignfoods.blogspot.com  http://devlon.blogspot.comSPONSORED LINKS  Individual  Fireant  Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: YouTube Concerns

2005-08-11 Thread Steve




That's more of a technical problem. I had sent Josh a private e-mail regarding this issue. 
It's more about choosing Flash as the delivery technology. Until now, I had thought that 
decision was black and white.

With Flash FLV, there's no need to require users to have the exact codecs installed. 
Furthermore, there's no need to choose Real Player vs Windows Media Player or setting the 
bandwidth streaming rates.

But we hadn't anticipated video aggregators syndicating this content. Is there a solution 
that would be compatible with video aggregators while maintaining the FLV format?

Also, we have been researching the Creative Commons licensing today. It seems to me 
that the main issue is more at the loss of rights to videos rather than an implementation of 
Creative Commons? Put another way, it seems the first, BIG step we can take is to remove 
the draconian rights that YouTube assumes on each upload and, rather, make the video 
submissions properties of the users with all rights reserved for said user. Then, the next 
step would be to implement the various forms of Creative Commons licensing for the 
videos. Does that sound right?

---
By posting or sending a User Submission, you expressly grant YouTube a royalty-free, 
perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, worldwide license to use, reproduce, modify, 
publish, edit, translate, distribute, perform, display, and make derivative works of such 
User Submission, and your name, voice, and/or likeness as contained in your User 
Submission, in whole or in part, and in any form, media or technology, whether now 
known or hereafter developed, including the unfettered right to sublicense such rights, in 
perpetuity throughout the universe.
---

*sarcasm* Gosh, are you guys really concerned about our Terms of Use? :) ... in perpetuity 
throughout the universe. Wow.

We hope to push out a new Terms of Use this evening along with a message during the 
upload process that communicates to the uploader that he/she owns the rights to all video 
submissions.

-s

On Aug 10, 2005, at 9:56 AM, videoblogging@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Thanks for the response!

 How about the biggest concern: that you're not syndicating movies, but
 html pages? In other words, YouTube does not syndicate it's content to
 any of the video aggregators (ANT, Mefeedia, iTunes, ...). It really
 is pretty useless. It means that YouTube content can't be synched to a
 PSP or the possibly upcoming video iPod. It can't be show on your TV
 if you have that set up. And so on.
 
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[videoblogging] business models

2005-08-11 Thread robert a/k/a r




Money appears to be flowing into podcasting, is vlogging next up?


Congrats, Ev
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Congratulations, Adam
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Re: [videoblogging] Editing question...ugly moving text objects and frame rate?

2005-08-11 Thread Devlon




Thanks Jan,

I will have to make a similar situation when I get home to know those
nasty little details since I used to muck with the compression, etc.
so many times I can't really remember what I may have done in each
case.


On 8/10/05, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is exactly the place to ask, Devlon :)
 
 First, tell us everything you've done, including the software  compression
 settings you used (all the natty little details), and then whoever has 
 expertise in those things can knowledgeably answer.
 
 Jan
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Fwd: 3ivx Video Blogging

2005-08-11 Thread Devlon




Excellent! Thanks for passing this along. 

My 3ivX audio encoder just expired :(

On 8/10/05, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check this out! I got clarification from the 3ivx people about the 
 cost of the codec - all it took was an email (go figure). Basically 
 they said:
 If you are not purchasing a license as a company or if you are not 
 going to use the 3ivx encoded files for professional or direct money 
 revenue generating purposes, the Plus license is the one to get.
 $19.95 (US)
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube Concerns

2005-08-11 Thread Clint Sharp




Steve wrote:

 That's more of a technical problem. I had sent Josh a private e-mail 
 regarding this issue. 
 It's more about choosing Flash as the delivery technology. Until now, 
 I had thought that
 decision was black and white.

 With Flash FLV, there's no need to require users to have the exact 
 codecs installed. 
 Furthermore, there's no need to choose Real Player vs Windows Media 
 Player or setting the
 bandwidth streaming rates.

 But we hadn't anticipated video aggregators syndicating this content. 
 Is there a solution
 that would be compatible with video aggregators while maintaining the 
 FLV format?

Current FireANT for the PC and Mac supports FLV and SWF enclosures, I 
believe. They build the SWF wrapper for each FLV file I believe. 
Correct me if I'm wrong, Josh.


 Also, we have been researching the Creative Commons licensing today. 
 It seems to me
 that the main issue is more at the loss of rights to videos rather 
 than an implementation of
 Creative Commons? Put another way, it seems the first, BIG step we 
 can take is to remove
 the draconian rights that YouTube assumes on each upload and, rather, 
 make the video
 submissions properties of the users with all rights reserved for said 
 user. Then, the next
 step would be to implement the various forms of Creative Commons 
 licensing for the
 videos. Does that sound right?

Yes, making it clear that the user retains all copyrights to the work, 
with the exception of granting YouTube rights to distribute the videos 
from its website. You might take a look at OurMedia's terms of service 
for some examples (I've not looked at them, but I'm assuming they have 
them and that their legalese would probably be a good example for what 
you're trying to convey).



 *sarcasm* Gosh, are you guys really concerned about our Terms of Use? 
 :) ... in perpetuity
 throughout the universe. Wow.

 We hope to push out a new Terms of Use this evening along with a 
 message during the
 upload process that communicates to the uploader that he/she owns the 
 rights to all video
 submissions.

 -s

Excellent! Nice to see you guys responding to feedback.

Clint


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[videoblogging] Links in Vlog (oh, and an introduction)

2005-08-11 Thread Michael und Susi Videoreporter




Hi there everybody,

our first post here. We're two Munich-based journalists (actually, one
of us is still a student of journalism), preparing to launch a vlog
with local news and point of interest for Oktoberfest visitors. We're
trying to maintain a certain degree of general relevance for our
entries, although we're not really trying to win the Pulitzer here.

Now here's my question: is there any good way to include clickable
links into ourr videos, or will we have to fall back upon the text
entries in ourmedia.org.

Best regards,
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[videoblogging] Re: YouTube Concerns

2005-08-11 Thread Steve




 after allowing people to put CC rights on their videoslet people
 link directly to the video.
 not just the youtube page where its posted.
 
 jay

we have just changed the licensing agreement tonight so the user owns the rights to their 
videos.

furthermore, we have just released a feature that allows YouTube users to directly host 
their YouTube videos from their website. for any video you see on the webiste, there will 
appear three copy+paste snippets which correlate to the three different ways you can link 
and share your YouTube videos.

the first one is a link to the video page hosted on YouTube.

the second is an iframe HTML snippet that allows you show a thumbnail of the image with 
live stats on the number of views and comments.

the third (!!) is a HTML snippet that allows you to embed the video player on your website/
blog such that you can play the video directly from your website/blog without having to go 
to the YouTube site.

i have to get some sleep. i'd love to feedback, especially with regards to the Terms of Use 
changes.

thank you, have a good night.

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[videoblogging] Re: hmmm....

2005-08-11 Thread James A. Donnelly




Must have been a glitch, I got the same thing stating: Group Temp.
Unavailable. it was not available for hours.
jad

www.dummycast.com
www.madlymedia.com


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Re: [videoblogging] Links in Vlog (oh, and an introduction)

2005-08-11 Thread Andreas Haugstrup




On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:09:53 +0200, Michael und Susi Videoreporter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now here's my question: is there any good way to include clickable
 links into ourr videos, or will we have to fall back upon the text
 entries in ourmedia.org.

If you only need one link there's: URL: 
http://www.solitude.dk/archives/linkubator/ 

If you need more there the old one: URL: 
http://www.solitude.dk/archives/QT-thingie/ 
The instructions are at: URL: 
http://www.solitude.dk/archives/20041109-2223/ 

Eventually I will get time based text links to work in the new one.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube Concerns

2005-08-11 Thread Joshua Kinberg




 Current FireANT for the PC and Mac supports FLV and SWF enclosures, I
 believe. They build the SWF wrapper for each FLV file I believe.
 Correct me if I'm wrong, Josh.

Almost right current FireANT for PC supports SWF, but FLV support
is coming soon.
Next Mac version supports SWF and FLV using the method described
above. But, if YouTube syndicates raw FLV, I'm pretty certain they
will lose their branding on each clip as I believe that water mark,
and their custom player, are SWF elements that would be stripped off
if the raw FLV were syndicated not a problem for FireANT, but
maybe not ideal for YouTube.

BTW, anybody out there capable of creating a great-looking, compact
FLV video controller in Flash? We're currently using the default
Macromedia video controller for testing in the new Mac FireANT still
being kicked around the lab... er, Jay's apartment. If you have
experience with this, please contact me off-list.

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Re: [videoblogging] Links in Vlog (oh, and an introduction)

2005-08-11 Thread Jan




Holy-cannoli, I've been hoping someone would ask about this. Saw your 
vloggercue presentation out of half my eye and was fascinated by it Andreas. 
This is very cool.

Best,
Jan
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http://blog.urbanartadventures.com
http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com
http://the-hold.blogspot.com


- Original Message - 
From: Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Links in Vlog (oh, and an introduction)


 On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 12:09:53 +0200, Michael und Susi Videoreporter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now here's my question: is there any good way to include clickable
 links into ourr videos, or will we have to fall back upon the text
 entries in ourmedia.org.

 If you only need one link there's: URL:
 http://www.solitude.dk/archives/linkubator/ 

 If you need more there the old one: URL:
 http://www.solitude.dk/archives/QT-thingie/ 
 The instructions are at: URL:
 http://www.solitude.dk/archives/20041109-2223/ 

 Eventually I will get time based text links to work in the new one.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: disclosure

2005-08-11 Thread Jay dedman




 when i asked for advice about hardware purchase, i was being serious.
 i want to buy a lightweight camera and have no idea...

i persoanlly use a sanyo xacti...an mpeg4 camera. fits in my pocket, about 400$.
i guess you must decide how you will use the camera for videoblogging
your art ideas.
a mini-DV camera may be better.

 why is it necessary for there to be a seperate women's video group?

not necessary. plenty of women in this group. 

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[videoblogging] Internet Archive Errors

2005-08-11 Thread Jay dedman




recently someoine pinted out there was an error coming from IA.
here was the response:

The upload machine (items-uploads) that handles OM publisher content was
bumping up against a full disk, too much abandoned content cluttering
the disk. It's an intermittent problem because there is also always stuff
being copied off the disk, so it goes away until input catches up with
output again.
I'm clearing out a bunch of the sludge right now, thanks for reporting the
problem.

so continue to send problems (preferably off-list) as they do get taken care of.
The Archive is obviously shifting to learning to handle so much stuff coming in.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: disclosure

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Garfield




Not sure if I already answered this, check out Canon SD500.

On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Jay dedman wrote:

 when i asked for advice about hardware purchase, i was being serious.
 i want to buy a lightweight camera and have no idea...

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2005-08-11 Thread Jay dedman




 I encouraged Dmitry to post that here. Sorry about that.
 I got excited about the Veoh launch (and all the other products launching,
 too). All the development going on is one of the most exciting things, to
 me. Personally, I like to see the relevent press releases, but maybe they're
 better for a different list.
 
 -Halcyon
 SpreadingThePink.com

Halcyon(funny that we call each other by these names)you work for
Veoh, correct?
what is the difference between what youre offering and me having my
own videoblog with a feed?

it also says on your site that :
Veoh does not charge content producers to broadcast their content,
and allows them to specify if they would like to offer that content
for free or for a fee. Veoh derives revenues from taking a percentage
of the fee, or advertising wrapped around the free content.

so why would i host my video on veoh and and allow it to be wrapped in ads?
this IPTV-hype reminds me of all the problems with regular TV.

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[videoblogging] Re: YouTube Concerns

2005-08-11 Thread petertheman





 But we hadn't anticipated video aggregators syndicating this
content. Is there a solution 
 that would be compatible with video aggregators while maintaining
the FLV format?

Yes, just syndicate the actual flash file as an enclosure and include
player controls in that. Both Mefeedia and ANT already support that :)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Speed of Ourmedia/IA

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Sullivan



I was able to play it (QT7) and their was a long delay but as JD
pointed out, the movie was fully loaded once it started to play... so
this case does not apear to be an IA lag... redo it as suggested

what software are you using?

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Re: [videoblogging] business models

2005-08-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl




robert a/k/a r wrote:
 Money appears to be flowing into podcasting, is vlogging next up?
 
 Congrats, Ev
 http://tinyurl.com/anabs
 
 Congratulations, Adam
 http://tinyurl.com/83jtn

Yes, vlogging is next. It took just about a year before the money 
started flowing into podcasting. So by the end of 2005 or maybe early 
2006 expect the money to arrive. Until then let's try to have some fun 
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Re: [videoblogging] Movie working or not?

2005-08-11 Thread Jan McLaughlin




Second entry's video loads fast. Cool.

If you wanna link the first entry's jpg to a movie file, you need to 
replace the first address with the address of the movie otherwise it 
just links to the photo. But maybe you're still editing over there. :)

http://mostextraordinary.blogspot.com/

The above link has the correct syntax to your site - you had a ',' 
where there should have been a '.' in the url.

Guessing you're not a typist.

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[videoblogging] Re: YouTube Concerns

2005-08-11 Thread David Meade




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the third (!!) is a HTML snippet that allows you to 
 embed the video player on your website/blog 

Coolness. I just tested it out with some random vid and it worked
nicely. Looks very slick too.

 we have just changed the licensing agreement tonight so the
 user owns the rights to their videos.

(I'm not a lawyer) ... I didn't see any explicit 'you retain rights'
type thing, but I didn't see anything giving them away either - which
I believe means I get to keep them :-)

All in all the new terms wouldn't scare me away. :-)

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[videoblogging] Re: Movie working or not?

2005-08-11 Thread David Meade




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[videoblogging] Aaargh! I hate hard drives. Warning about non-tape cameras and backups.

2005-08-11 Thread Frank Carver





Yesterday afternoon, the 250GB Maxtor external hard drive that I have
been using for all my video work stopped responding to requests from
the PC. The best I can prompt it to give me is this drive is not
formatted - format it now?

This was pretty unexpected - the drive is relatively new and had been
working well for months. Unfortunately, I had become lazy about
backups. My original plan was to use this drive solely as temporary
working storage for material loaded from tape while editing - if
anything went wrong I'd still have the master tapes.

The I got a little flash camera, which made it so tempting to just
upload to the hard drive and move on to grabbing more footage.
Somehow, this hard drive _became_ the master version.

So now, I've lost several months of irreplaceable raw footage, all
because I neglected to back up my stuff to multiple, more permanent,
places.

If you use a non-tape camera, don't get caught like me. Back up
everything NOW, and back up all your raw footage to multiple,
permanent, locations WHILE ITS STILL IN THE CAMERA. Remember. Hard
drives fail when you least want them to.

As an aside, I was also using this drive for downloaded videoblogs and
podcasts, so I will probably be re-fetching a whole bunch of
everyone's stuff in the near future. Apologies in advance for eating
your bandwidth twice.

PS. Anyone know any cheap and effective data recovery services?

Sigh.

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Re: [videoblogging] Evangelism?

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Sullivan



if you feel compelled to inform a videoblogger how to syndicate and distribute video, leave a comment and link to freevlog.org
or start spreadthevlog.org ;-)

sullOn 8/11/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm wondering about videoblogging evangelism here...Take a look at this guy: http://www.dailydancer.com/Tons of comments on his videos. Looks like he's using Blogger, the only
thing missing is an RSS feed with enclosures.What would be the best way to contact the guy and say Hey, you justneed an RSS feed with enclosures and tons more people will see yourvideos, go to this site [url?] and set one up.
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[videoblogging] Re: call for entries-documentary advertising

2005-08-11 Thread owen




schlomo-where is the exploitation? perhaps it would exist if i was being paid by 
schlitz or pbr to try and generate this stuff...but i'm not. how am i making money off 
you? it is true i am trying to create a space whereby videobloggers interested in 
producing commercial content can be paid for their effort, and using submissions to 
try to find commercial sponsors...but i think that's clear. we're not there yet.

as for copyrighted music--yes, i'm taking a risk. i'm not suggesting you do, except 
perhaps by example. 

thanks for your curiosity. seems to me that's what drives the vlog world (all forms of 
it).



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, johngaltsjournal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wow, that IS a great way to make money off of me-- for 50 bucks, I think you may 
be the 
 exploiter of the day! You win!
 
 What happens to me when someone sees that beer videocommercial you have on 
your site 
 with copywrited music? If that was my vid, would you pay for the lawyer that I 
would need 
 once I'm sued?
 
 just curious
 schlomo
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, owen mack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hi everybody.
  i introduced myself to the group awhile back (april?), and have since had a few
  back-and-forths with jay, ryanne and others. here is a slightly modified version
  of a note i sent them recently:
  
  i know this is going to make you sick, but i thought i'd let you know. i am
  launching a project called coBRANDiT: we're starting up an open-source agency 
to
  specialize in documentary advertising and we're looking for contributors. as
  incentive we're paying $50 for submissions. check it out here:
  
  call for entries: http://www.cobrandit.com/
  
  i want you to know that i totally understand your disgust with marketing, and
  your desire to keep commercial messages out of the videoblogging sphere. i 
want
  you to also know that while i have been compensated for making video for Pabst
  Blue Ribbon and PUMA, i currently have no paying projects or active clients. we
  are self funding this thing in the belief that we can attract sponsors and create
  a way for non-professional videographers to play with commercial media. i know
  you're interested in ways videobloggers can get paid (rel=payment, paypal, etc);
  i see coBRANDiT as another option. you want payment from viewers, i want 
payment
  from brands. (end of note)
  
  we are looking for videobloggers who are interested in the possibility of getting
  paid to produce short pieces about brands and people for use on brand websites.
  (example: stuff like michael verdi's post today about his neighbor's mini cooper.
  http://www.michaelverdi.com) my hope is to create a community of 
videographers
  that can be hired to produce content of this sort. the business model for this is
  not all worked out, please consider the $50 offer a thank you for your time and
  interest. with any luck we can start a collaborative business that provides
  compensation to contributors and changes the way advertising works.
  
  so submit a video! http://www.cobrandit.com/
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Re: [videoblogging] Aaargh! I hate hard drives. Warning about non-tape cameras and backups.

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Sullivan



sucks...
and true... which is why i dont believe so much in the idea that
archived video (wherever the host is) will safely be available 20, 30,
40, 50 years ahead unless its all transferred to new, better
storage technology.

On 8/11/05, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yesterday afternoon, the 250GB Maxtor external hard drive that I havebeen using for all my video work stopped responding to requests fromthe PC. The best I can prompt it to give me is this drive is not
formatted - format it now?This was pretty unexpected - the drive is relatively new and had beenworking well for months. Unfortunately, I had become lazy aboutbackups. My original plan was to use this drive solely as temporary
working storage for material loaded from tape while editing - ifanything went wrong I'd still have the master tapes.The I got a little flash camera, which made it so tempting to justupload to the hard drive and move on to grabbing more footage.
Somehow, this hard drive _became_ the master version.So now, I've lost several months of irreplaceable raw footage, allbecause I neglected to back up my stuff to multiple, more permanent,places.
If you use a non-tape camera, don't get caught like me. Back upeverything NOW, and back up all your raw footage to multiple,permanent, locations WHILE ITS STILL IN THE CAMERA. Remember. Harddrives fail when you least want them to.
As an aside, I was also using this drive for downloaded videoblogs andpodcasts, so I will probably be re-fetching a whole bunch ofeveryone's stuff in the near future. Apologies in advance for eatingyour bandwidth twice.
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Re: [videoblogging] Aaargh! I hate hard drives. Warning about non-tape cameras and backups.

2005-08-11 Thread Jan




http://del.icio.us/tag/datarecovery

Ow. Ow. Ow.

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From: Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:24 AM
Subject: [videoblogging] Aaargh! I hate hard drives. Warning about non-tape 
cameras and backups.



 Yesterday afternoon, the 250GB Maxtor external hard drive that I have
 been using for all my video work stopped responding to requests from
 the PC. The best I can prompt it to give me is this drive is not
 formatted - format it now?

 This was pretty unexpected - the drive is relatively new and had been
 working well for months. Unfortunately, I had become lazy about
 backups. My original plan was to use this drive solely as temporary
 working storage for material loaded from tape while editing - if
 anything went wrong I'd still have the master tapes.

 The I got a little flash camera, which made it so tempting to just
 upload to the hard drive and move on to grabbing more footage.
 Somehow, this hard drive _became_ the master version.

 So now, I've lost several months of irreplaceable raw footage, all
 because I neglected to back up my stuff to multiple, more permanent,
 places.

 If you use a non-tape camera, don't get caught like me. Back up
 everything NOW, and back up all your raw footage to multiple,
 permanent, locations WHILE ITS STILL IN THE CAMERA. Remember. Hard
 drives fail when you least want them to.

 As an aside, I was also using this drive for downloaded videoblogs and
 podcasts, so I will probably be re-fetching a whole bunch of
 everyone's stuff in the near future. Apologies in advance for eating
 your bandwidth twice.

 PS. Anyone know any cheap and effective data recovery services?

 Sigh.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2005-08-11 Thread Halcyon Lujah



I have been working with Veoh. I'm not an employee...yet. We'll see.

To me, the benefit of an ad system, is that it creates the possibility
of making a living doing this very realistic. (Remember the ad revenue
is split with the broadcaster) AND it puts all the sales duties
on someone else's plate.  I can remember when my home page was
very popular in the late 90's and I was trying to invent a business
plan around a popular site.  The only people I knew doing
personal publishing and making money had organized into networks (I
think Maxi was one?). Then the networks had resources to sell
niche ads for those sites (instead of broad stroke click to punch the
monkey ads.)  I see Veoh's system as one of those networks (on a
much larger scale.)

At this stage, doing everything yourself isn't much different. But how
many people are making, or watching personal video publishing right
now? It reminds me of the days of when you could check Cool Site
of the Day and stay up to date on all things web. I think the
big benefits to Veoh (or any system like it) will be much more clear
when iptv revolution is more widespread and the amount of content
starts to reach infinity.

-Hal (John Halcyon Styn) ;)On 8/11/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I encouraged Dmitry to post that here. Sorry about that.
 I got excited about the Veoh launch (and all the other products launching,
 too). All the development going on is one of the most exciting things, to
 me. Personally, I like to see the relevent press releases, but maybe they're
 better for a different list.
 
 -Halcyon
 SpreadingThePink.com

Halcyon(funny that we call each other by these names)you work for
Veoh, correct?
what is the difference between what youre offering and me having my
own videoblog with a feed?

it also says on your site that :
Veoh does not charge content producers to broadcast their content,
and allows them to specify if they would like to offer that content
for free or for a fee. Veoh derives revenues from taking a percentage
of the fee, or advertising wrapped around the free content.

so why would i host my video on veoh and and allow it to be wrapped in ads?
this IPTV-hype reminds me of all the problems with regular TV.

Jay


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Re: [videoblogging] Aaargh! I hate hard drives. Warning about non-tape cameras and backups.

2005-08-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl




Frank Carver wrote:

 PS. Anyone know any cheap and effective data recovery services?

I hate to tell you, but cheap and effective rarely go together when 
discussing data recovery services. :(

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[videoblogging] Meet the Videobloggers in BOSTON on Thursday August 18th

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Garfield




Meet the Videobloggers in BOSTON on Thursday August 18th.

This month the Boston videobloggers follow up their previous Dinner 
and Brunch meetings with a get together at Rock Bottom Brewery in the 
theater district in downtown Boston. [ 5:00 - 7:00 PM ]

We'll be meeting for a few hours just prior to the monthly meeting of 
the Boston Final Cut Pro Users Group. http://www.bosfcpug.org

This is a drinks and appetizers kind of thing. No video.

I'll be at Rock Bottom to start things off at 5:00. By the bar. With 
a nice cold one.

The FCP meeting starts at 7:00.

Please pass this along to anyone you think might be interested in 
joining us.

Rock Bottom Brewery
115 Stuart Street
Boston, Massachusetts, 02116
United States
phone: (617) 742-BREW

http://tinyurl.com/5o995

Directions:
Located in the heart of Boston's Historic theatre district on the 
corner of Stuart and Tremont Streets or The Boylston Stop on the Green 
Line or the New England Medical Center stop on the Orange Line.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2005-08-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl




Halcyon Lujah wrote:
 I have been working with Veoh. I'm not an employee...yet. We'll see.
 
 To me, the benefit of an ad system, is that it creates the possibility of 
 making a living doing this very realistic. (Remember the ad revenue is split 
 with the broadcaster) AND it puts all the sales duties on someone else's 
 plate. I can remember when my home page was very popular in the late 90's 
 and I was trying to invent a business plan around a popular site. The only 
 people I knew doing personal publishing and making money had organized into 
 networks (I think Maxi was one?). Then the networks had resources to sell 
 niche ads for those sites (instead of broad stroke click to punch the 
 monkey ads.) I see Veoh's system as one of those networks (on a much larger 
 scale.)

I only see the possibility of making a living doing this very 
realistic for those that can create popular content. Since that never 
seems to be me, my interest in business models and advertising is pretty 
low.

(If ever the day comes that something I do is deemed popular, I guess 
I'll worry about it then, or admit defeat and move on to something else 
considered unpopular...)

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Chris Baudry



Yes. That's pretty sobering :-(

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[videoblogging] Re: Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2005-08-11 Thread Troy LeMaire




Sull,

Do you see either hardvlogs or softvlogs, as you put it, pulling the 
majority of revenue. To me, after the VLog Market/Genre matures, it 
will be hard for people with the low res videos to not join up with 
some kind of network like Veoh to produce revenue.

While I have been viewing blogs lately, I have seem some amazing, 
artful post, but I think, how will this eventually bring in revenue. 
Sure, some people will not be interested in becoming rich, but 
eventually the cost of posting are going to catch up with them

Troy
Forum Topic
How long until the money starts flowing into VLogging
http://www.podcastfriends.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8


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 What I see happening... 2 parallel video publishing paths.
 
 Hard-Core Vlogging, using IPTV and high-qual video any content 
but most 
 popular will be themed or variety 'shows'. These publishers will 
also cater 
 to the other path by offering lower-res versions.
 
 Soft-Core Vlogging, basically what you commonly have seen over past 
few 
 years... not targeting TV, not nec high-res video... but the 
content will 
 increasingly include more creative and interesting stuff... 
and 'shows'
 
 Basically, many people will find Soft-Core path to be suitable 
whether 
 reasons are money, time, goals
 Hard-Core Vloggers are very serious about pushing the 'everyone is 
a 
 publisher' concept as far as they can
 
 sull
 
 On 8/11/05, Halcyon Lujah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I have been working with Veoh. I'm not an employee...yet. We'll 
see.
  
  To me, the benefit of an ad system, is that it creates the 
possibility of 
  making a living doing this very realistic. (Remember the ad 
revenue is split 
  with the broadcaster) AND it puts all the sales duties on someone 
else's 
  plate. I can remember when my home page was very popular in the 
late 90's 
  and I was trying to invent a business plan around a popular site. 
The only 
  people I knew doing personal publishing and making money had 
organized into 
  networks (I think Maxi was one?). Then the networks had resources 
to sell 
  niche ads for those sites (instead of broad stroke click to 
punch the 
  monkey ads.) I see Veoh's system as one of those networks (on a 
much larger 
  scale.)
  
  At this stage, doing everything yourself isn't much different. 
But how 
  many people are making, or watching personal video publishing 
right now? It 
  reminds me of the days of when you could check Cool Site of the 
Day and 
  stay up to date on all things web. I think the big benefits to 
Veoh (or any 
  system like it) will be much more clear when iptv revolution is 
more 
  widespread and the amount of content starts to reach infinity.
  
  -Hal (John Halcyon Styn) ;)
  
  On 8/11/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I encouraged Dmitry to post that here. Sorry about that.
I got excited about the Veoh launch (and all the other 
products 
   launching,
too). All the development going on is one of the most 
exciting things, 
   to
me. Personally, I like to see the relevent press releases, 
but maybe 
   they're
better for a different list.

-Halcyon
SpreadingThePink.com
   
   Halcyon(funny that we call each other by these names)you 
work for
   Veoh, correct?
   what is the difference between what youre offering and me 
having my
   own videoblog with a feed?
   
   it also says on your site that :
   Veoh does not charge content producers to broadcast their 
content,
   and allows them to specify if they would like to offer that 
content
   for free or for a fee. Veoh derives revenues from taking a 
percentage
   of the fee, or advertising wrapped around the free content.
   
   so why would i host my video on veoh and and allow it to be 
wrapped in 
   ads?
   this IPTV-hype reminds me of all the problems with regular TV.
   
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[videoblogging] Money Talk

2005-08-11 Thread LeanBackVids.com




Can everyone move the business/money talk over to the
videobloggingbusiness group?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videobloggingbusiness/

It gets tiring reading about everyone's hopes to cash in on vlogging.
 The funny part is that 99% of us will never see a dime from our
vlogs. Most of us don't vlog for the hope of money, and all of us
agree that it would be a nice to get paid. The fact is that this just
isn't reality, especially since most of us don't get shit for traffic.

I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but someone has to crush the
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Re: [videoblogging] Money Talk

2005-08-11 Thread Clint Sharp






LeanBackVids.com wrote:

Can everyone move the business/money talk over to the
"videobloggingbusiness" group?
  
  
No, at this point that's unnecessary. It amazes me that people
subscribe to high volume mailing lists but ask for people to not talk
about certain things, expecting that only the stuff they're interested
in should come down the pipe. A month ago people were asking for
everyone to stop talking about the definition of vlogging. Money is
just the flavor of the month.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube Concerns

2005-08-11 Thread Jay dedman




 (I'm not a lawyer) ... I didn't see any explicit 'you retain rights'
 type thing, but I didn't see anything giving them away either - which
 I believe means I get to keep them :-)

why not just be clear?
here is what is on Ourmedia:

Q.Do you own what I upload to your site, as TextAmerica does?
A: No. You own it. Anyone who uploads anything will be required to
assign rights to their work. (We recommend a Creative Commons license,
which unambiguously delineates how others may use your work.) You get
to decide what others may do: share it? remix it? must they credit
you? See our Licensing page for details. You may also choose
traditional copyright. A third option is to donate the work to the
public domain; at that point, the public owns it.

also, i personally hate the youtube watermark on every video.
like clint says, since you are hositng it...you can choose to do what you want.
but as a videoblogger...i dont want your logo on my video.
if you want to brand it...brand the flash player around the video.

i think flickr does a good job with photos.
i upload them to a free account...with a reasonable upload limitation.
i get a direct link to the photo in the page. no logos.

i recently asked a flickr person if they were goign to do video.
she said 'no comment...which means its coming.

also, imagine when google figures out that people to upload video
straight from blogger is good.
they just strated doing this with photos this month.

Broadcast machine is allowing people to install their own torrent
publishing systems...which i keep hearing is very easy.

i think hosting/serving video content will not be a problem in the near future.
the challenge is finding whats good video..or better...good video for you.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Money Talk

2005-08-11 Thread Clint Sharp




LeanBackVids.com wrote:


 First of all, someone already got flamed for talking about money and
 they were suggested to create the other group. Here is her related
 rant

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videobloggingbusiness/message/112

 And for the record, I am not concerned about topics. It just gets old
 reading about how important money is to people who will probably never
 see it. I'd bet anyone here that 99% of us don't ever get paid.

 -Matt
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There is no shortage of division over the topic of money in this group. 
However, if people are truly interested in fragmentation, we can make 
that happen, I just don't think it's in the best interest of anyone at 
at this point.

Secondly, you're contradicting yourself. You can't not be concerned 
about various topics and be tired of hearing people talk about a subject 
that bothers you, which is money. Which is it? You're either concerned 
or not. Whether people actually make money is irrelevant (some will, 
some won't). It's also blatantly obvious that 99% will never get paid 
any significant money, because that's exactly how blogging has already 
played out and it's exactly how podcasting and vlogging will play out. 
Actually, I'd bet in the end more like 99.9%, because frankly most 
people are not going to be interested in making money off of it. 
However, the ones that are should have a place here to discuss it, and 
the people who have a problem with it can ignore it, like good list 
members. Otherwise, I'm perfectly happy to pack up my stuff and leave, 
because frankly this kind of attitude is getting on my last damn nerve.

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[videoblogging] Re: Money Talk

2005-08-11 Thread cooper3acd




My (biased) .02:

By allowing a certain amount of biz talk within the group, the group 
has the opportunity to help mold the future of some of the 
businesses (at least the ones that have their ears open).

Otherwise it does become truly an us/them situation.

BTW there will always be some business people who try to get short 
term benefit and work a group without thought for the group. 
Luckily, I think most of the business people who are in this group 
are here because they enjoy it (I've gotten an education in this 
group in the last month I could not have gotten anywhere else and 
enjoyed every minute of it). The people who enjoy it and want to 
participate will contribute and stick around. The ones who want a 
fast buck (they will be pretty obvious when they appear) will 
quickly lose interest in the group when they realize there is no 
fast payoff.

Cheers,
Rob
http://robvlog.blogspot.com/

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 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  No, at this point that's unnecessary. It amazes me that people 
  subscribe to high volume mailing lists but ask for people to not 
talk 
  about certain things, expecting that only the stuff they're 
interested 
  in should come down the pipe.
 
 First of all, someone already got flamed for talking about money 
and
 they were suggested to create the other group. Here is her related
 rant
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videobloggingbusiness/message/112
 
 And for the record, I am not concerned about topics. It just gets 
old
 reading about how important money is to people who will probably 
never
 see it. I'd bet anyone here that 99% of us don't ever get paid.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2005-08-11 Thread Michael Sullivan



IPTV typically refers to a seperate network for digital media
distribution over IP networks. Its not bound to the web. It
does pull content from the Internet so IPTV can include anything that
is on the web, whether or not the content is using RSS since their are
different ways to discover and grab media. But IPTV is not just
another term to explain RSS media distribution. Its much more
vast including hardware and special software... an entire
infrastructure really.

IPTV wont be perfect and common until more money is invested to develop
even fatter bandwidth pipes... so high-def video downloads stream
smoothly just like Cable TV. Their are some compression
technologies but the fact remains that more bandwidth is needed to get
all the potential out of IPTV (interactivity).

VOD is more suitable term to use as it is more general and can be
applied to RSSand any technology that utilizes it from set-top
boxes like akimbo to software like FireANT.

sull On 8/11/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think the big benefits to Veoh (or any system like it) will be much more clear when iptv revolution is more widespread and the amount of content starts to reach infinity.what is the difference between IPTV and a videolbog with an RSS feed?
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[videoblogging] Re: Money Talk

2005-08-11 Thread LeanBackVids.com




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Troy LeMaire
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I won't flame, I appreciate the link to the other group. You could 
 have been a little smoother in your delivery, but it's not like you 
 cussed someone out.

Yeah, timing and tact were never my strong points.

I just find the money topic more amusing/idealistic/annoying than
educational. Members have the right to talk about whatever they want.
 Basically, I was trying to point people to a topic-specific group. 

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[videoblogging] Re: Money Talk

2005-08-11 Thread R. Kristiansen




Well, we shouldn´t approach our last nerve regarding anything on this
list, in my opinion.

People have different perspectives. Within a few simple rules, like
Don´t just send some press release to the mailing list, I think we
should be pretty liberal.

I agree with Clint: If you don´t like the money talk (which I also
find slightly boring at times), then just ignore those threads. I am
myself very interested in Matt´s work on vlogmap.org, and there are a
zillion other things we can discuss on this list.

Let´s praise the different approaches to videoblogging and engage in
discussions at will. Personally I have almost 600 unread messages in
the videoblogging yahoogroups folder. Some of you have thousands.
Let´s build discussions, share perspectives, and explore how
videoblogging can affect our lives, society ar large, and ... all
kinds of things.

Peace!

Best, 

Raymond M. Kristiansen
heia Norge!

On 8/11/05, Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LeanBackVids.com wrote:
 
 
  First of all, someone already got flamed for talking about money and
  they were suggested to create the other group. Here is her related
  rant
 
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videobloggingbusiness/message/112
 
  And for the record, I am not concerned about topics. It just gets old
  reading about how important money is to people who will probably never
  see it. I'd bet anyone here that 99% of us don't ever get paid.
 
  -Matt
  --
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 There is no shortage of division over the topic of money in this group. 
 However, if people are truly interested in fragmentation, we can make 
 that happen, I just don't think it's in the best interest of anyone at 
 at this point.
 
 Secondly, you're contradicting yourself. You can't not be concerned 
 about various topics and be tired of hearing people talk about a subject 
 that bothers you, which is money. Which is it? You're either concerned 
 or not. Whether people actually make money is irrelevant (some will, 
 some won't). It's also blatantly obvious that 99% will never get paid 
 any significant money, because that's exactly how blogging has already 
 played out and it's exactly how podcasting and vlogging will play out. 
 Actually, I'd bet in the end more like 99.9%, because frankly most 
 people are not going to be interested in making money off of it. 
 However, the ones that are should have a place here to discuss it, and 
 the people who have a problem with it can ignore it, like good list 
 members. Otherwise, I'm perfectly happy to pack up my stuff and leave, 
 because frankly this kind of attitude is getting on my last damn nerve.
 
 Clint
 
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[videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Jack Nelson




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, chrbaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Something unexpected - and fun? - happened to me yesterday.
 
 I have been shooting yoga and dance classes for a yoga/wellness 
 studio these last 4 days. Each time it is a short interview of the 
 teacher and when editing I insert shots from the class. It is then 
 integrated into their blog.
 
 The first three days I was using my PANASONIC DVC60 which is a 
 shoulder semi-professional video camera that looks pretty much like 
 a pro camera. Each time I got a lot of respect from everyone there 
 and they would do what I wanted in terms of sound, light...
 
 Yesterday I brought my Canon Elura video camera which is a small 
 hand camera just fine to shoot video that will be streamed
 
 Guess what? No one cared about me! Teachers had other priorities, I 
 was basically ignored and wasted one hour!

Yeah, having a big pro-like camera can work against you in certain situations too. It's 
pretty easy to get footage on the subway for instance if you have a small non-pro looking 
camera. But whip out that big shoulder DVC60 and you'll be asked pretty soon where your 
permit is.

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Re: [videoblogging] Money Talk

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Garfield




I vote no.

On Aug 11, 2005, at 1:47 PM, LeanBackVids.com wrote:

 Can everyone move the business/money talk over to the
 videobloggingbusiness group?

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videobloggingbusiness/

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl




Jack Nelson wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, chrbaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yesterday I brought my Canon Elura video camera which is a small 
hand camera just fine to shoot video that will be streamed

Guess what? No one cared about me! Teachers had other priorities, I 
was basically ignored and wasted one hour!
 

 Yeah, having a big pro-like camera can work against you in certain situations too. It's 
 pretty easy to get footage on the subway for instance if you have a small non-pro looking 
 camera. But whip out that big shoulder DVC60 and you'll be asked pretty soon where your 
 permit is.

Permit for what? Do you need a permit to shoot video on the subway or 
other locations? (I'm asking because I really don't know. Are the 
videographers rights the same as the well known photographers rights?)

Pete

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[videoblogging] Videoblogging Mentioned on WBAI-FM Last Night

2005-08-11 Thread Its A Mystery and So Im I





Hi, ALl,

Videoblogging was mentionsed on New York's WBAI's Personal Computer Show
(99.5FM) this past Wednesday night show that was dedicated to 
podcasting. Maybe someone like Jay Dedman should contact them 
to do a night on videoblogging. You can download the podcast of 
the show at http://archive.wbai.org or http://www.pcradioshow.org .

Personal Computer Show 
WBAI 99.5FM
Wednesdays, 8pm -9pm
Studio Call-ins: 
212-290-2900
http://www.pcradioshow.org


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[videoblogging] Re: call for entries-documentary advertising

2005-08-11 Thread johngaltsjournal




Well, to give you credit, you did start your post with I know this is going make you sick, 
so at least you knew there would be someone around here who would spout off about this.

If people want to turn their videoblogs into viral marketing schemes, then rock on. 
There's plenty of blogspot.com spaces just ready to be filled with it. Heck some use their 
vlogs to hype the products they create themselves-- marketing themselves and their 
product in the happy blanket of Independent Media, Community, and Videoblogging. It's 
just how the world works, and you should never trust the media... no matter how small it 
is.

We see this all the time in the blogging world-- transparent advertising through content-- 
and of course it's gonna be a part of the videoblogging world.

schlomo
http://webzine2005.com
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com



 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 schlomo-where is the exploitation? perhaps it would exist if i was being paid by 
 schlitz or pbr to try and generate this stuff...but i'm not. how am i making money off 
 you? it is true i am trying to create a space whereby videobloggers interested in 
 producing commercial content can be paid for their effort, and using submissions to 
 try to find commercial sponsors...but i think that's clear. we're not there yet.
 
 as for copyrighted music--yes, i'm taking a risk. i'm not suggesting you do, except 
 perhaps by example. 
 
 thanks for your curiosity. seems to me that's what drives the vlog world (all forms of 
 it).
 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, johngaltsjournal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Wow, that IS a great way to make money off of me-- for 50 bucks, I think you may 
 be the 
  exploiter of the day! You win!
  
  What happens to me when someone sees that beer videocommercial you have on 
 your site 
  with copywrited music? If that was my vid, would you pay for the lawyer that I 
 would need 
  once I'm sued?
  
  just curious
  schlomo
  http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, owen mack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   hi everybody.
   i introduced myself to the group awhile back (april?), and have since had a few
   back-and-forths with jay, ryanne and others. here is a slightly modified version
   of a note i sent them recently:
   
   i know this is going to make you sick, but i thought i'd let you know. i am
   launching a project called coBRANDiT: we're starting up an open-source agency 
 to
   specialize in documentary advertising and we're looking for contributors. as
   incentive we're paying $50 for submissions. check it out here:
   
   call for entries: http://www.cobrandit.com/
   
   i want you to know that i totally understand your disgust with marketing, and
   your desire to keep commercial messages out of the videoblogging sphere. i 
 want
   you to also know that while i have been compensated for making video for Pabst
   Blue Ribbon and PUMA, i currently have no paying projects or active clients. we
   are self funding this thing in the belief that we can attract sponsors and create
   a way for non-professional videographers to play with commercial media. i know
   you're interested in ways videobloggers can get paid (rel=payment, paypal, etc);
   i see coBRANDiT as another option. you want payment from viewers, i want 
 payment
   from brands. (end of note)
   
   we are looking for videobloggers who are interested in the possibility of getting
   paid to produce short pieces about brands and people for use on brand websites.
   (example: stuff like michael verdi's post today about his neighbor's mini cooper.
   http://www.michaelverdi.com) my hope is to create a community of 
 videographers
   that can be hired to produce content of this sort. the business model for this is
   not all worked out, please consider the $50 offer a thank you for your time and
   interest. with any luck we can start a collaborative business that provides
   compensation to contributors and changes the way advertising works.
   
   so submit a video! http://www.cobrandit.com/
   -owen
   
   Owen Mack
   coBRANDiT (OBTTV)





  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread davedraws




You know, I've noticed the same thing, even the difference between the Canon GL2 and my 
small handheld Canon still camera with video capability.

I try to use it to my advantage the other way as well. When I want the footage I get to be 
more spontaneous, with less pressure on the subject, I'll take along the smaller camera. 
Great candid footage that way. And then the larger camera brings in more attention to 
getting a more formal shot.

Great observation!

Dave

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, chrbaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yesterday I brought my Canon Elura video camera which is a small 
 hand camera just fine to shoot video that will be streamed
 
 Guess what? No one cared about me! Teachers had other priorities, I 
 was basically ignored and wasted one hour!
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2005-08-11 Thread Andreas Haugstrup




On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:38:05 +0200, Michael Sullivan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Basically, many people will find Soft-Core path to be suitable 
 whether
 reasons are money, time, goals
 Hard-Core Vloggers are very serious about pushing the 'everyone is a
 publisher' concept as far as they can

No, the hardcore you're talking about are simply going in a different 
direction - they aren't pushing anything further than the web publishers. 
You make content for the web doesn't automatically mean your quality is 
inferior to those who want to make content for the TV.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2005-08-11 Thread Joshua Kinberg




 Regular TV is 330 x 480. Standard QT is 320 x 240. 
 Are we in the big leagues yet or do we have to add a bit more resolution to
 get there?

Actually, NTSC resolution for television is 720x480.

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Re: [videoblogging] Resolutions (was:Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video)

2005-08-11 Thread skullcrew webmaster


I thought HDTV was something along the lines of 1024X somthing... nixter out. =Xhttp://www.skullcrew.comhttp://www.angryshirts.comOn Aug 11, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Charles HOPE wrote: Joshua Kinberg wrote:  Regular TV is 330 x 480. Standard QT is 320 x 240.   Are we in the big leagues yet or do we have to add a bit more resolution to  get there?   Actually, NTSC resolution for television is 720x480.That's HDTV. Scroll down to "resolution".  SPONSORED LINKS  Individual  Fireant  Explains   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.charles.hope.vcf

  




  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: Resolutions (was:Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload you

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Watkins




Its true that some sources on the internet say its 330. Im not sure
they are right.

I can certainly say that digital UK TV (which is PAL) is 720x576, and
thats not called High definition, its normal. There are multiple
different High Definition formats, they are all quite a bit higher res
than what we've been talking about.

These 720x480 and 720x576 are also the sorts of resolutions which most
DV etc videocameras work at, so most likely to be one of the
resolution choices videobloggers have above 320x240, in most cases its
the resolution they will have done their editing in. (but as
previously mentioned the appearence of mpeg4 etc tapeless recorders
complicates this) 

Another way to look at it is what is called 'broadcast quality'. If
you did some freelance work for a TV station or something that would
end up on TV, they are not going to want it at a res like 330xsomething.

But if you record TV onto VHS video then the resolution is more like
what you suggest.

Anyway you could just try playing a 320x240 videoblog on a TV and see
if it looks the same quality as normal TV. IMHO, it doesnt, its worse,
but not as bad as watching it fullscreen on a computer monitor.

I think I enjoy talking about TV resolutions too much.

Steve of Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Joshua Kinberg wrote:

  Regular TV is 330 x 480. Standard QT is 320 x 240.
  Are we in the big leagues yet or do we have to add a bit more
resolution to
  get there?

 Actually, NTSC resolution for television is 720x480.


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Frank Carver




Thursday, August 11, 2005, 7:55:12 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:
 Permit for what? Do you need a permit to shoot video on the subway or
 other locations? (I'm asking because I really don't know. Are the 
 videographers rights the same as the well known photographers rights?)

What you need to remember is that traditionally TV and moviemaking has
meant big budgets. Many big cities in the USA (where lots of such things
are shot), long ago decided to cash in on these lucrative activities.

In such places (which (AFAIK) include LA, NY, and Chicago, for example)
you need to pay up front for a permit to shoot, and will be nabbed if
spotted doing something that looks like pro filmmaking without a
permit.

In these cases, looking like a dumb tourist is actually an advantage
:)

On the other hand, many small towns and the more out-of-the way places
are often happy for the publicity, and you might even get support if you
approach the right people in the right way.

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[videoblogging] Re: Money Talk

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Watkins




The problem with seeing the history in that way is that there is never
actually a 'pure' rejection of any particular topic or idea here, its
just different human beings talking, arguing.

Perceptions differ. Personalities cloud the issues. A personal clash,
someone like me having a rant and being unpleasant towards someone
else because of reasons personal to me and my worldview, can come
across as part of a wider rejection by 'the group' of an entire topic
like 'money' or 'business' or 'marketing' or 'corporations'.

The couple of clashes Ive had with a couple of people have been one
example, other people have had their clashes, had their rants.

Sometimes it boils down to people criticising specific elements of the
business thats being talked about, and criticism often hurts.
Sometimes individuals will make large and sweeping statements about
their own beliefs about whats right and wrong, both in the world, and
this list. 

Apart from the few specific spam-type practices that are easy calls to
make, theres not going to be groupwide agreement on any aspect of how
money/business etc should be discussed here and how much it all means
to videoblogging. 

Anyway one things for sure, anybody who says anything here will
potentially receive feedback from an unknown number of unknown humans
who may respond in unknown ways. Expect feedback! I would say that
anybody should be welcome here to talk about anything that remotely
relates to vieoblogging, but they should always be aware that anybody
else has the right to respond, and sometimes it might not be a
positive response. 

Getting flamed feels worse than its supposed to.

Perhaps people are less afraid to criticise business practices because
they see these things as depersonalised. Its easier to tell someone
youve been offended by their ugly marketing than it is to tell someone
else that they have an ugly nose or their video is boring as hell or
some other personal critique.

But the reality is that there are people behind all of these business
practices, and so even if the criticism is easier to deliver, and the
stakes seem higher, human suffering can still result.

These are just some of the phenomenon that make me deeply regret my
spats with a few people, and although it wasnt just me, I totally
reject the idea that the videoblogging group had either anti-business
or anti-women traits totally inherent in it as a group, that drove
people away. Some specific people said things which caused some other
specific people to feel uncomfortable or unwelcome and so they left.
Post-event respresentation of these events as being on a collosal epic
ideological level by some, especially the idea that I was/am somehow
anti-women, and so the fairer sex needs a place to shelter on the net
to discuss things free from the brutish ways of man. Argh it just
makes me want to setup the irrelevent-groin group, because this is a
text based group where frankly the only thing that counts is what we
write here. Not our past, our status, whats between our legs, or
anything else. 

Oops ranting sorry

Steve of Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No, at this point that's unnecessary. It amazes me that people 
  subscribe to high volume mailing lists but ask for people to not talk 
  about certain things, expecting that only the stuff they're
interested 
  in should come down the pipe.
 
 First of all, someone already got flamed for talking about money and
 they were suggested to create the other group. Here is her related
 rant
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videobloggingbusiness/message/112
 
 And for the record, I am not concerned about topics. It just gets old
 reading about how important money is to people who will probably never
 see it. I'd bet anyone here that 99% of us don't ever get paid.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Money Talk

2005-08-11 Thread Jay dedman




 It's also blatantly obvious that 99% will never get paid
 any significant money, because that's exactly how blogging has already
 played out and it's exactly how podcasting and vlogging will play out.
 Actually, I'd bet in the end more like 99.9%, because frankly most
 people are not going to be interested in making money off of it.
 However, the ones that are should have a place here to discuss it, and
 the people who have a problem with it can ignore it, like good list
 members. Otherwise, I'm perfectly happy to pack up my stuff and leave,
 because frankly this kind of attitude is getting on my last damn nerve.

i really suggest using a mail client(gmail for me) that allows you to
create folders.
i have zero problem keeping up with this group.
The group's emails are sent to a folder.
i check the folder...and scan the subject headings...
i read what i want.

as we've discussed before.
anyone can make another group/forum and get people talking.
The Videobloggingbusiness group exists...
Thye seem to be about how you, personally, can make money.
and how to promote and market your business using videoblogs.

about business and money in this group.
like clint said, its the flavor of the month.
i dont see much talk on how the individual can make money.
But like Pete says, there seem to be quite a few businesses popping
up.. and the people who run them on in this group. we have a chance to
possibly influence them.
I think the YouTube thread is a good example.
they started out as a pretty good example of how you DO NOT treat creators.
lets see what they do.

Im sure there are plenty of MainStream Media observers in here trying
to find out what the next thing will be. lets tell/show them.
we know money must be made, but there's a lot of leeway in how this is done.
But what are we willing to pay for, accept?
What do we want to see and how do we want to see it?

For me, its always about the community.
here we are watching a new form of communication grow.
we are right here...eventhough we live all over the planet.
http://vlogmap.org
what is it we want to happen?

This is not normal what we're doing here.
We are not supposed to be so connected...im supposed to learn baout
your country through a 3rd party. But direct communication through
video? Archived for generations? Mash ups?
Unmediated?

Maybe we can help make this unmediated communication part of the
commercial culture.
Maybe people talking and sharing directly with each other can become
normal instead of a subculture.
Maybe criticism and improvement of how things are can come from the
bottom, and become mainstream. This to me is what videoblogging
represents.

if we got to talk about money to get there, then $$.

Jay

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[videoblogging] the new cat on the block

2005-08-11 Thread Willliam Jozokos-Bookman




Hello everybody

My name is WJ BOOKMAN. You can call me THE W
(pronouced double u).

I'm a media artists and motionologist(I study motion
and its variances).

Vloggin, huh...it's seems like an interesting endeavor
and I'm glad to be a part of it.

I'm currently dabblin' with video and the web and have
a lot of info to share for those who need it. I'm also
looking to learn about areas in which I'm not
enlightened in.

OK. On with the program.

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[videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Watkins




And there is the War On Terror aspect. In the past this list has seen
a few discussions about Subway station 'you arent allowed to film
here' legislation and the reality on the ground. I guess that one was
New York specific, cant remember details. But the basics are that if
you are videoing places that could be of interest as terrorist
targets, well you could be a terrorist doing reconnacence on the
target. And I believe they can even abstract that idea further, eg
'you are not a terrorist but if you make your footage publically
available, a terrorist could use it to plan naughty deeds'.

This sort of thing is probably not routinely taken to that extreme
yet, but this is the sort of stuff that can also potentially impinge
on your rights to film in this day and age.

And yeah this stuff too is touched by the 'size of camera' issue. If
you are being indiscreet with a big camera and filming something
somebody doesnt want you to, then theres umpteen ways to try to get
you to move on I guess, the war on terror adds one powerful new one.
But with cameras built into mobile phones, and shrunken cameras, the
whole game changes.

Still I suppose there are some circumsntances where youd actually look
more suspicious filming something with a tiny/non apparent
videocamera, compared to a larger one?

Steve of Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Carver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thursday, August 11, 2005, 7:55:12 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:
  Permit for what? Do you need a permit to shoot video on the subway or
  other locations? (I'm asking because I really don't know. Are the 
  videographers rights the same as the well known photographers rights?)
 
 What you need to remember is that traditionally TV and moviemaking has
 meant big budgets. Many big cities in the USA (where lots of such things
 are shot), long ago decided to cash in on these lucrative activities.
 
 In such places (which (AFAIK) include LA, NY, and Chicago, for example)
 you need to pay up front for a permit to shoot, and will be nabbed if
 spotted doing something that looks like pro filmmaking without a
 permit.
 
 In these cases, looking like a dumb tourist is actually an advantage
 :)
 
 On the other hand, many small towns and the more out-of-the way places
 are often happy for the publicity, and you might even get support if you
 approach the right people in the right way.
 
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[videoblogging] SPINtrax

2005-08-11 Thread Jan




Think I joined your SpinXpress group, Rene.

Have been spending time with your flash design for Instant Documentary.

Will have an email to you in due course.

Best,
Jan

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- Original Message - 
From: luxomaticart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:20 PM
Subject: [videoblogging] Collaborative Audio Space


 Hi videobloggers,

 Are you ready for the Summer of Vlog? I am. Just wanted to let you know 
 that I've created a
 new SPIN space (Secure Private INternet P2P file sharing) for audio files 
 called SPINtrax.

 Vloggers and DJs unite! Here we can share Creative Commons music we've 
 made for
 videos, loops, and tracks for mixing. If you'd like to download my tracks 
 and upload yours,
 send me your email address and I will add you to the group. Let me know if 
 there are other
 people you'd like to invite. Let's groove!


 ~Rene

 Luxomedia
 be the media

 http://www.luxomedia.com/blog/
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/Luxomedia

 VIDEOBLOGGERS SF MEETUP
 Thursday, June 30th 7pm
 Club Deluxe
 1511 Haight Street, SF

 VLOGGERCUE 2005
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Re: [videoblogging] rel=payment

2005-08-11 Thread Jay dedman




 so, i'm considering putting a donate feature on my site using the
 rel=payment idea put forward by the aggre-gang. Is paypal the best thing
 to use? everyone seems to have it .. do you all use the 'merchant' option..
 it's the only one i could see on the site that seems to fit in?

has this been posted?
http://www.videovertigo.org/information/relpayment/
here's a good page that explains rel=payment

Mefeedia, blip.tv, and 49bloggers.com currently support it.
The next version of FireANT will support it.

It's just a simple tag that you put in your post.
All you must do is figure out where you want people to go to support you.

To me, this isnt about getting rich...and probably not for people just
posting family videos.
But if you are working on a video project...could be a good idea.
im travelling to Iran to document daily lifei will post videos
almost everyday...help pay my expenses.
If you want to see a regular person record video in a place we never
see on TV, help them out.
rel=payment

I got 10 bucks so far.
http://www.dropcash.com/campaign/roygvib/momentshowing/

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl




Steve Watkins wrote:
 And there is the War On Terror aspect. In the past this list has seen
 a few discussions about Subway station 'you arent allowed to film
 here' legislation and the reality on the ground. I guess that one was
 New York specific, cant remember details. But the basics are that if
 you are videoing places that could be of interest as terrorist
 targets, well you could be a terrorist doing reconnacence on the
 target. And I believe they can even abstract that idea further, eg
 'you are not a terrorist but if you make your footage publically
 available, a terrorist could use it to plan naughty deeds'.

Time to print up some 'Just Another Videoblogger' t-shirts.. :\

Pete

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Pete Prodoehl




Frank Carver wrote:
 Thursday, August 11, 2005, 7:55:12 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:
 
Permit for what? Do you need a permit to shoot video on the subway or
other locations? (I'm asking because I really don't know. Are the 
videographers rights the same as the well known photographers rights?)
 
 
 What you need to remember is that traditionally TV and moviemaking has
 meant big budgets. Many big cities in the USA (where lots of such things
 are shot), long ago decided to cash in on these lucrative activities.
 
 In such places (which (AFAIK) include LA, NY, and Chicago, for example)
 you need to pay up front for a permit to shoot, and will be nabbed if
 spotted doing something that looks like pro filmmaking without a
 permit.
 
 In these cases, looking like a dumb tourist is actually an advantage
 :)

Hmmm, what I need to remember sounds just all wrong... I was never 
involved in traditional tv or moviemaking, so I would have no idea I'd 
need a permit to walk around a major city with a video camera.

See? It always comes back around to money. The cities wanted to make 
money off of big media, and we have to suffer because of it. Sigh...

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[videoblogging] Got a phone that shoots video?

2005-08-11 Thread Charles HOPE






Can you do me a favor? I'm working on adding the ability to accept
video shot and emailed from cell phones on blip.tv. We call it
"blipfoot". Right now it is only working for Cingular Blue (ATT
customers before Cingular bought them) because that's all I have to
experiment with. For pictures, all the providers using different and
conflicting email formats. I suppose if it were simple, the Terrorists
would win.

So if you have some other service than Cingular Blue, I'd appreciate it
if you could shoot a moment of video and email it to me for analysis.
Once I see the format I'll be able accept video from that provider on
blip.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Devlon




:) You are assuming I was going to pay for them Pete.

~Devlon

On 8/11/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Devlon wrote:
  On 8/11/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Time to print up some 'Just Another Videoblogger' t-shirts.. :\
  
 
  Oooh, ooh, I'll take 2 of those please :)
 
 Woo Hoo! Look at me! I found a way to make money with videoblogging! ;)
 
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[videoblogging] Re: It's Happening

2005-08-11 Thread David Meade




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, isteiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi David (and all),
 I'm curious why you bought SeriousMagic but never used it,...Thanks.

Actually its pretty much because I fell into this yahoo! crowd before
I started vlogging - and my concept of what a vlog was changed from
the desk-bound style of vlog.com to the out-in-the-world style that
you see from so many of the vloggers in this group.

SeriousMagic has some pretty cool features (the teleprompter can be
great for lots of situations), and while you can import video from
places other than your desk/webcam ... studio-bound shots is where
SeriousMagic really shines, I think.

I keep telling myself that I should install it and play around with it
some more (I did really like the demo) ... but I like that vlogging is
taking me (and my viewers) out and about - away from my lil' apartment.

Also, I've come to want a more robust time-line orriented editing
environment. SeriousMagic does has some basic
clipping/trimming/importing ability ... but my preference is for a
timeline view.

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[videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Jack Nelson




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jack Nelson wrote:
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, chrbaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yesterday I brought my Canon Elura video camera which is a small 
 hand camera just fine to shoot video that will be streamed
 
 Guess what? No one cared about me! Teachers had other priorities, I 
 was basically ignored and wasted one hour!
  
 
  Yeah, having a big pro-like camera can work against you in certain situations too. It's 
  pretty easy to get footage on the subway for instance if you have a small non-pro 
looking 
  camera. But whip out that big shoulder DVC60 and you'll be asked pretty soon where 
your 
  permit is.
 
 Permit for what? Do you need a permit to shoot video on the subway or 
 other locations? (I'm asking because I really don't know. Are the 
 videographers rights the same as the well known photographers rights?)

Most major cities require permits to film in public. I just did a promotional film for a 
publishing company in NYC, something that will end up on DVD and passed out to 
prospective clients. We needed about ten seconds of Mr. Everyman coming to work on the 
subway. We did it in Queens without any problems but later I told a professional 
cameraman working in NYC that we had done it and he said we were lucky. They've always 
required permits for filming, even if it's a student film and not professional. After 911 they 
are looking even more closely at this sort of thing. 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Jack Nelson




--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Frank Carver wrote:
  Thursday, August 11, 2005, 7:55:12 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:
  
 Permit for what? Do you need a permit to shoot video on the subway or
 other locations? (I'm asking because I really don't know. Are the 
 videographers rights the same as the well known photographers rights?)
  
  
  What you need to remember is that traditionally TV and moviemaking has
  meant big budgets. Many big cities in the USA (where lots of such things
  are shot), long ago decided to cash in on these lucrative activities.
  
  In such places (which (AFAIK) include LA, NY, and Chicago, for example)
  you need to pay up front for a permit to shoot, and will be nabbed if
  spotted doing something that looks like pro filmmaking without a
  permit.
  
  In these cases, looking like a dumb tourist is actually an advantage
  :)
 
 Hmmm, what I need to remember sounds just all wrong... I was never 
 involved in traditional tv or moviemaking, so I would have no idea I'd 
 need a permit to walk around a major city with a video camera.
 
 See? It always comes back around to money. The cities wanted to make 
 money off of big media, and we have to suffer because of it. Sigh...

It's not money really. I was told that the NYC permits were free. I think they said you get 
one cop for free with the permit. They are concerned mostly with a big mass of cameras, 
lights, equipment etc. blocking sidewalks and access. That's why the permits started. 

We also filmed several segments on the sidewalks of NYC where you are also supposed to 
have permits. We had a camera and tripod (the tripod is potentialy bad, blocking sidewalks 
again). We spent the time to tell the locals what we were doing and even got some 
volunteer actors. I also was very concious of where I setup and I was quick to take the 
tripod down after each shot. We had no trouble.

We even had a guy who became our unofficial guide. We wanted people of various ethnic 
backgrounds to say Hi to the everyman guy. This one shopkeeper took us around the 
neighborhood intorducing us to all the other shopkeepers. You want Brazilians? I can talk 
to the girls in the hairdressing shop. You want Italian? There's a great place around the 
corner and so on. I just wish we could have gotten that on film.

We got turned down only once. There was one woman who was very pretty but did not 
want to be filmed. Eventually she told us she was in the US without papers, so we just 
moved on.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread robert a/k/a r




The Mayor's Film Office here is pretty easy (ymmv so I've heard but not 
our experience) to work with, you fill in the forms (download, filling 
in takes 5 minutes), send someone up there with forms and they review 
them (can take from an hour to three), they may ask a few questions (of 
the person delivering the forms or they telephone you) as the forms 
seem never quite clear enough, and they issue a permit for specific 
locations for a specific term. No fees, but you must have the proper 
insurance in place since you are making a rep when you fill in the 
forms. Further, if you want to film in a park, after you receive your 
permit you must contact the the parks department person responsible for 
that park (it appears each has a few parks, is regional). It's not a 
big deal, get the permit. And people here are very friendly here and 
we've found it easy to chat with folks on camera. One more thought, 
when filming peeps the usual release concerns apply, and regarding 
audio you might want to avoid issues if a nearby boombox is pumping out 
copyrighted tunes.


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On Aug 11, 2005, at 6:29 PM, Jack Nelson wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Frank Carver wrote:
 Thursday, August 11, 2005, 7:55:12 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:

 Permit for what? Do you need a permit to shoot video on the subway 
 or
 other locations? (I'm asking because I really don't know. Are the
 videographers rights the same as the well known photographers 
 rights?)


 What you need to remember is that traditionally TV and moviemaking 
 has
 meant big budgets. Many big cities in the USA (where lots of such 
 things
 are shot), long ago decided to cash in on these lucrative activities.

 In such places (which (AFAIK) include LA, NY, and Chicago, for 
 example)
 you need to pay up front for a permit to shoot, and will be nabbed if
 spotted doing something that looks like pro filmmaking without a
 permit.

 In these cases, looking like a dumb tourist is actually an advantage
 :)

 Hmmm, what I need to remember sounds just all wrong... I was never
 involved in traditional tv or moviemaking, so I would have no idea I'd
 need a permit to walk around a major city with a video camera.

 See? It always comes back around to money. The cities wanted to make
 money off of big media, and we have to suffer because of it. Sigh...

 It's not money really. I was told that the NYC permits were free. I 
 think they said you get
 one cop for free with the permit. They are concerned mostly with a big 
 mass of cameras,
 lights, equipment etc. blocking sidewalks and access. That's why the 
 permits started.

 We also filmed several segments on the sidewalks of NYC where you are 
 also supposed to
 have permits. We had a camera and tripod (the tripod is potentialy 
 bad, blocking sidewalks
 again). We spent the time to tell the locals what we were doing and 
 even got some
 volunteer actors. I also was very concious of where I setup and I was 
 quick to take the
 tripod down after each shot. We had no trouble.

 We even had a guy who became our unofficial guide. We wanted people of 
 various ethnic
 backgrounds to say Hi to the everyman guy. This one shopkeeper took 
 us around the
 neighborhood intorducing us to all the other shopkeepers. You want 
 Brazilians? I can talk
 to the girls in the hairdressing shop. You want Italian? There's a 
 great place around the
 corner and so on. I just wish we could have gotten that on film.

 We got turned down only once. There was one woman who was very pretty 
 but did not
 want to be filmed. Eventually she told us she was in the US without 
 papers, so we just
 moved on.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Jan McLaughlin




Insurance is very expensive, btw. Haven't check it out in a long while; 
the only thing I can be sure of, it hasn't gone down lately.

How much is it these days and what minimum time / amount? Does the 
mayor's office still require $1M?

J

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On Aug 11, 2005, at 6:45 PM, robert a/k/a r wrote:

 The Mayor's Film Office here is pretty easy (ymmv so I've heard but not
 our experience) to work with, you fill in the forms (download, filling
 in takes 5 minutes), send someone up there with forms and they review
 them (can take from an hour to three), they may ask a few questions (of
 the person delivering the forms or they telephone you) as the forms
 seem never quite clear enough, and they issue a permit for specific
 locations for a specific term. No fees, but you must have the proper
 insurance in place since you are making a rep when you fill in the
 forms. Further, if you want to film in a park, after you receive your
 permit you must contact the the parks department person responsible for
 that park (it appears each has a few parks, is regional). It's not a
 big deal, get the permit. And people here are very friendly here and
 we've found it easy to chat with folks on camera. One more thought,
 when filming peeps the usual release concerns apply, and regarding
 audio you might want to avoid issues if a nearby boombox is pumping out
 copyrighted tunes.


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 On Aug 11, 2005, at 6:29 PM, Jack Nelson wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Frank Carver wrote:
 Thursday, August 11, 2005, 7:55:12 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:

 Permit for what? Do you need a permit to shoot video on the subway
 or
 other locations? (I'm asking because I really don't know. Are the
 videographers rights the same as the well known photographers
 rights?)


 What you need to remember is that traditionally TV and moviemaking
 has
 meant big budgets. Many big cities in the USA (where lots of such
 things
 are shot), long ago decided to cash in on these lucrative 
 activities.

 In such places (which (AFAIK) include LA, NY, and Chicago, for
 example)
 you need to pay up front for a permit to shoot, and will be nabbed 
 if
 spotted doing something that looks like pro filmmaking without a
 permit.

 In these cases, looking like a dumb tourist is actually an advantage
 :)

 Hmmm, what I need to remember sounds just all wrong... I was never
 involved in traditional tv or moviemaking, so I would have no idea 
 I'd
 need a permit to walk around a major city with a video camera.

 See? It always comes back around to money. The cities wanted to make
 money off of big media, and we have to suffer because of it. Sigh...

 It's not money really. I was told that the NYC permits were free. I
 think they said you get
 one cop for free with the permit. They are concerned mostly with a big
 mass of cameras,
 lights, equipment etc. blocking sidewalks and access. That's why the
 permits started.

 We also filmed several segments on the sidewalks of NYC where you are
 also supposed to
 have permits. We had a camera and tripod (the tripod is potentialy
 bad, blocking sidewalks
 again). We spent the time to tell the locals what we were doing and
 even got some
 volunteer actors. I also was very concious of where I setup and I was
 quick to take the
 tripod down after each shot. We had no trouble.

 We even had a guy who became our unofficial guide. We wanted people of
 various ethnic
 backgrounds to say Hi to the everyman guy. This one shopkeeper took
 us around the
 neighborhood intorducing us to all the other shopkeepers. You want
 Brazilians? I can talk
 to the girls in the hairdressing shop. You want Italian? There's a
 great place around the
 corner and so on. I just wish we could have gotten that on film.

 We got turned down only once. There was one woman who was very pretty
 but did not
 want to be filmed. Eventually she told us she was in the US without
 papers, so we just
 moved on.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Chris Baudry



Even in a private environment you need to have people sign a form agreeing to be filmed. In the case of the yoga classes we had all participants sign the document before the class... except onestudent who arrived late and at the end said she was upset by the filming and did not agree to be part of the film Since she was in the middle of the group... one hour of shooting lost :-(


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Jack Nelson wrote: --- In 
videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, chrbaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yesterday I brought my Canon Elura video camera which is a small hand camera just fine to shoot video that will be streamed
Guess what? No one cared about me! Teachers had other priorities, I was basically ignored and wasted one hour!  Yeah, having a big pro-like camera can work against you in certain situations too. It's 
 pretty easy to get footage on the subway for instance if you have a small non-pro looking  camera. But whip out that big shoulder DVC60 and you'll be asked pretty soon where your  permit is.
Permit for what? Do you need a permit to shoot video on the subway or other locations? (I'm asking because I really don't know. Are the videographers rights the same as the well known photographers rights?)
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Chris Baudry



Now I do that: I use the bigger camera when I need to look professonal and get attention, and the smaller one in crowds.

christian
On 8/11/05, Jack Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, chrbaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something unexpected - and fun? - happened to me yesterday.  I have been shooting yoga and dance classes for a yoga/wellness 
 studio these last 4 days. Each time it is a short interview of the  teacher and when editing I insert shots from the class. It is then  integrated into their blog.  The first three days I was using my PANASONIC DVC60 which is a 
 shoulder semi-professional video camera that looks pretty much like  a pro camera. Each time I got a lot of respect from everyone there  and they would do what I wanted in terms of sound, light...
  Yesterday I brought my Canon Elura video camera which is a small  hand camera just fine to shoot video that will be streamed  Guess what? No one cared about me! Teachers had other priorities, I 
 was basically ignored and wasted one hour!Yeah, having a big pro-like camera can work against you in certain situations too. It's pretty easy to get footage on the subway for instance if you have a small non-pro looking 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Andreas Haugstrup




On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:31:50 +0200, Chris Baudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Even in a private environment you need to have people sign a form 
 agreeing
 to be filmed. In the case of the yoga classes we had all participants 
 sign
 the document before the class... except one student who arrived late and 
 at
 the end said she was upset by the filming and did not agree to be part of
 the film Since she was in the middle of the group... one hour of
 shooting lost :-(

In private enviroments it's always a good idea to get permission to film. 
In public areas... not so much. It all depends on what you are going to 
use the footage for. Is it for commercial use? Get permission always. Is 
it nonprofit use and you're filming in public? Not such a big deal. In 
that case you won't run into misappropriation unless you're making Weird 
Shit(tm) and privacy laws don't prohibit filming when the subject doesn't 
have reasonable grounds to expect privacy (like walking down a street).

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[videoblogging] Dream-Inspired Works at Paxton-Tanner Gallery

2005-08-11 Thread Thomas G Henry



Hello Everyone! 


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resources in New York's Hudson River Valley. Whatever your medium,
genre, scope, philosophy, etc... we're
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[videoblogging] We Are Not Afraid

2005-08-11 Thread Jan





http://www.werenotafraid.com/index.html

Has been deluged with stills from folks who declare themselves 
"unafraid" in the wake of the London bombings.

Checked delicious and there are a few. 

Thought you might want to tag some appropriate vids both 
deliciously and at mefeedia - for London and for everyone who might just be 
afraid.

I'm not afraid.

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[videoblogging] what videoblogging means to me

2005-08-11 Thread Jay dedman




here is a paragraph in an email exchange ive been having lately with
this guy who just starting FireANT. I believe it says something about
what all of us are doing.
He's an older gentleman, who says he's had a love affair with
photography since he was a kid.
He got a PSP so he could watch videos while he spent endless hours in
the waiting rooms of doctor's offices. He watches you.

On that note, I would like to say how much I appreciate what you
fellows have done with Fireant. I'm probably downloading at nearly
half of the entries in your directory. If I had greater bandwidth I'd
download more. It is difficult for me to get out and around now, and
I really enjoy seeing snippets of the world through other peoples
eyes. Not only do I get to see places I probably will never be able
to visit in person, I'm seeing it through their eyes, and therefore the
life experiences of others. This adds a unique flavor to the images
that even being there wouldn't provide. I just pray that video
blogging never spawns an 'Adam Curry' hellbent on turning it into yet
another commercial enterprise!

haha here's a guy who's spent a long me on this planet...i believe he
knows what's important about what we're doing.

Jay

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[videoblogging] Re: It's Happening

2005-08-11 Thread isteiner




Hi David,
I was in stiches watching your video. Good choice to go mobile with 
your camera. 

Thanks for the input about S.M., we're going to give it a shot.
Ina

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 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, isteiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi David (and all),
  I'm curious why you bought SeriousMagic but never used 
it,...Thanks.
 
 Actually its pretty much because I fell into this yahoo! crowd before
 I started vlogging - and my concept of what a vlog was changed from
 the desk-bound style of vlog.com to the out-in-the-world style that
 you see from so many of the vloggers in this group.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] geek of the week

2005-08-11 Thread Richard




Andrew,

This is a GREAT article, and she really deserves it.

... Richard

On 8/1/05, andrew michael baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 http://www.ernac.com/
 
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[videoblogging] Re: Got a phone that shoots video?

2005-08-11 Thread Jack Olmted




I've been posting vids from a Sprint cell phone to:

http://spaces.msn.com/members/ndr/








  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] what videoblogging means to me

2005-08-11 Thread Jan McLaughlin




Oh, thank you, Jay, for sharing that precious bit of correspondence.

Jan
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On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:26 PM, Jay dedman wrote:

 here is a paragraph in an email exchange ive been having lately with
 this guy who just starting FireANT. I believe it says something about
 what all of us are doing.
 He's an older gentleman, who says he's had a love affair with
 photography since he was a kid.
 He got a PSP so he could watch videos while he spent endless hours in
 the waiting rooms of doctor's offices. He watches you.

 On that note, I would like to say how much I appreciate what you
 fellows have done with Fireant. I'm probably downloading at nearly
 half of the entries in your directory. If I had greater bandwidth I'd
 download more. It is difficult for me to get out and around now, and
 I really enjoy seeing snippets of the world through other peoples
 eyes. Not only do I get to see places I probably will never be able
 to visit in person, I'm seeing it through their eyes, and therefore the
 life experiences of others. This adds a unique flavor to the images
 that even being there wouldn't provide. I just pray that video
 blogging never spawns an 'Adam Curry' hellbent on turning it into yet
 another commercial enterprise!

 haha here's a guy who's spent a long me on this planet...i believe he
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Got a phone that shoots video?

2005-08-11 Thread Ryan Ozawa




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I've been posting vids from my Treo 650 to TextAmerica at:

http://vlog.textamerica.com/

Do you want someone to send you a clip straight from the phone (so
you can also see how the e-mail is formatted), or just the file
itself (as you're concerned mostly about the format)?

Ryan

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Re: [videoblogging] not videoblogging, but....

2005-08-11 Thread Joshua Kinberg




Ha!
Jay's cable access show, You, has been doing this live -on-TV iChat
AV for over a year!

Way to go CNN... truly on the cutting edge :-)

-Josh


On 8/11/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=12301
 
 CNN commits iChat AV experiment
 By Jonny Evans
 
 
 CNN has begun an experiment that uses iChat AV to conduct face-to-face
 interviews.
 
 A new US show hosted by Wolf Blitzer, Situation Room, aims to mix
 traditional reporting with new online technologies - such as iChat AV.
 
 The news channel explains the show: Assembles top CNN correspondents,
 analysts, contributors and guests for complete, up-to-the minute coverage of
 the day's events. Modeled on the concept of the White House Situation Room,
 the programme combines traditional reporting methods with the newest
 innovative online resources, making the entire process of newsgathering more
 transparent and placing the latest news and information at the viewers'
 fingertips.
 
 One of the first interviewees on the show was Joichi Ito, who wrote about
 the interview on his blog.
 
 Ito is optimistic on the possibilities for the new technology, saying: By
 using cheap Internet technology, they will be able to reach people all over
 the world on very short notice.
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] We Are Not Afraid

2005-08-11 Thread Adam Quirk



My submission to this was declined a few days after all this happened.
Why?
I called them manic religious zealots.

That is unacceptable.
Fuck.
If I would have just said Fuck you, I ain't skeered I would have been accepted.

As Charlie Brown would say, #)%#$)@_(%(_$#%(*^#$)%(@_#%@$(%^#$(%^#

Dialogue=freedom 

Hi, welcome to self-censorship.On 8/11/05, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









http://www.werenotafraid.com/index.html

Has been deluged with stills from folks who declare themselves 
unafraid in the wake of the London bombings.

Checked delicious and there are a few. 

Thought you might want to tag some appropriate vids both 
deliciously and at mefeedia - for London and for everyone who might just be 
afraid.

I'm not afraid.

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Re: [videoblogging] We Are Not Afraid

2005-08-11 Thread Jan McLaughlin




I don't understand, Quirk: you called them manic religious zealots in 
your submission and they rejected you?

Hell, I'll take it for my web site!

Dialog often sux.

But why did you call them manic religious zealots? [Says she, hiding 
the can opener.]

Jan
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http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com
http://the-hold.blogspot.com
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On Aug 11, 2005, at 11:17 PM, Adam Quirk wrote:

 My submission to this was declined a few days after all this happened.
 Why?
 I called them manic religious zealots.

 That is unacceptable.
 Fuck.
 If I would have just said Fuck you, I ain't skeered I would have 
 been accepted.

 As Charlie Brown would say, #)%#$)@_(%(_$#%(*^#$)%(@_#%@$(%^#$(%^#

 Dialogue=freedom

 Hi, welcome to self-censorship.

 On 8/11/05, Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:http://www.werenotafraid.com/index.html
  
 Has been deluged with stills from folks who declare themselves 
 unafraid in the wake of the London bombings.
  
 Checked delicious and there are a few.
  
 Thought you might want to tag some appropriate vids both deliciously 
 and at mefeedia - for London and for everyone who might just be 
 afraid.
  
 I'm not afraid.
  
 Jan
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Re: [videoblogging] the new cat on the block

2005-08-11 Thread Brett Gaylor


Got a website, there, dubya?On 11-Aug-05, at 5:03 PM, Willliam Jozokos-Bookman wrote:  Hello everybody  My name is WJ BOOKMAN. You can call me THE "W" (pronouced "double u").  I'm a media artists and motionologist(I study motion and its variances).  Vloggin, huh...it's seems like an interesting endeavor and I'm glad to be a part of it.  I'm currently dabblin' with video and the web and have a lot of info to share for those who need it. I'm also looking to learn about areas in which I'm not enlightened in.  OK.  On with the program.  "work with what you got"   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: When the video camera makes the reputation...

2005-08-11 Thread Brett Gaylor


In Quebec, we are one of the only (if not the only) jurisdictions in North America where it is actually illegal to photograph or videotape people without permission, let alone release on television etc.  It was a supreme court decision a couple of years ago that set it off... my understanding is that in other places you can film, you just cant show it, and the courts make that distinction... Permit for what? Do you need a permit to shoot video on the subway or other locations? (I'm asking because I really don't know. Are the videographers rights the same as the well known photographers rights?) Pete-- http://tinkernet.org/videoblog for the future...  SPONSORED LINKSIndividual  Fireant  ExplainsYAHOO! GROUPS LINKS    Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.   SPONSORED LINKS  Individual  Fireant  Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. 

  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Veoh Networks Announces Financing - Get ready to upload your video

2005-08-11 Thread Beth Agnew






That's the question that sank the dot-coms: It's all innovative,
exciting, and ahead of the curve, but how to generate revenue from it?
I mean, how am I going to convince people to pay me to help
them LAUGH, for pity's sake? I could go in a different, more
commercial, direction, but that wasn't the original idea. I could
transmit a message about good karma and intrinsic value, guilting
people into subscribing or donating lest they incur a karmic debt from
enjoying without supporting. Still, that doesn't quite feel right. Deep
down, I'd like to believe the Marc Andreesen model of "make more by
giving it away" still works, and will work for vlogs. 

Troy LeMaire wrote:

Sull,
  
Do you see either hardvlogs or softvlogs, as you put it, pulling the 
majority of revenue. To me, after the VLog Market/Genre matures, it 
will be hard for people with the low res videos to not join up with 
some kind of network like Veoh to produce revenue.
  
While I have been viewing blogs lately, I have seem some amazing, 
artful post, but I think, how will this eventually bring in revenue. 
Sure, some people will not be interested in becoming rich, but 
eventually the cost of posting are going to catch up with them
  
Troy
Forum Topic
How long until the money starts flowing into VLogging
  http://www.podcastfriends.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8

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[videoblogging] Re: not videoblogging, but....

2005-08-11 Thread Eric Rice




It's not always easy for someone as big as CNN to just drop 'cutting edge' on the world. It's 
a massive organization, and surprisingly, there are some very progressive minds within 
there that are buried under the inherent layers of approval and legal and such that comes 
with an organization of that size.

I was inside CNN/Turner the day after Joi was on situation room, and being there made my 
perspective on things/media/people/etc change a little bit--after all, I've always felt 
someplace in the middle of the ultra-indie/ultra-conglomerate mental space.

Now, may the half-vampire/half-human jokes begin.

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 Ha!
 Jay's cable access show, You, has been doing this live -on-TV iChat
 AV for over a year!
 
 Way to go CNN... truly on the cutting edge :-)
 
 -Josh
 
 
 On 8/11/05, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=12301
  
  CNN commits iChat AV experiment
  By Jonny Evans
  
  
  CNN has begun an experiment that uses iChat AV to conduct face-to-face
  interviews.
  
  A new US show hosted by Wolf Blitzer, Situation Room, aims to mix
  traditional reporting with new online technologies - such as iChat AV.
  
  The news channel explains the show: Assembles top CNN correspondents,
  analysts, contributors and guests for complete, up-to-the minute coverage of
  the day's events. Modeled on the concept of the White House Situation Room,
  the programme combines traditional reporting methods with the newest
  innovative online resources, making the entire process of newsgathering more
  transparent and placing the latest news and information at the viewers'
  fingertips.
  
  One of the first interviewees on the show was Joichi Ito, who wrote about
  the interview on his blog.
  
  Ito is optimistic on the possibilities for the new technology, saying: By
  using cheap Internet technology, they will be able to reach people all over
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