[videoblogging] Windows Problems with 3pg

2005-11-08 Thread martinxdreyer
hello,
i use my mobile to make movies on the fly for my videoblog 
(http://www.mad-video.blogspot.com/).

To have it right in the window where ist starts, it ist working fine 
with appel, and also with firefox Mozilla Browsers. 
But With the IE it ist not working at all.

I use this tag: OBJECT CLASSID=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-
D3488ABDDC6B WIDTH=200HEIGHT=174 
CODEBASE=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; 
PARAM name=SRC VALUE=koelnbeinacht.3gp 
PARAM name=AUTOPLAY VALUE=true
PARAM name=CONTROLLER VALUE=true
param NAME=type VALUE=video/quicktime 
EMBED 
SRC=http://www.jfrs.de/theologie/mp3/mp3/martind/videoblog/koelnbein
acht.3gp WIDTH=200 HEIGHT=174 AUTOPLAY=false 
CONTROLLER=true type=video/quicktime 
PLUGINSPAGE=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/; 
/EMBED
/OBJECT
Any one has an Idea what to do?
Happy for help!
Martin





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[videoblogging] tag for wearethemedia remix month?

2005-11-08 Thread duncan speakman



is there a tag being used for this in mefeedia, fireant et al?

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[videoblogging] rejected by C|Net

2005-11-08 Thread Deirdre Straughan



I try out most of the new video hosting services at least once, so I
tried out the new C|Net upload. They don't offer much in the way of
guidelines before you submit content as to what type of thing they're
looking for, though the set of categories they offer (once you get that
far) gives some clues. There wasn't a travel category (usually the most
obvious one for my videos) so I had to choose something like family.

So here's the rejection letter:

Greetings Deirdre'Thank you very much for submitting Mehndi Hand Painting (7851) to CNETDownload.com Video. We strive to offer content that will appeal to a wide range
of users and also meet our editorial standards, and with this in mind, we givecareful consideration to all submissions.After reviewing your submission, the Download.com Video editors have decided not
to post it at this time. We thank you for your effort, and we encourage you tocontinue submitting new material for consideration in the future.If you decide to include an audio track with your video, we will reconsider
posting it to our site. In the case of music, original tracks are the bestchoice. Please go back to your account on video-uploads.download.com, edit yourvideo submission and resubmit the edited version(s) by clicking submit.
Once your submission is successfully completed, we will review your material forpublication. ...This is a bit strange. There is audio in parts of the video (women speaking Hindi). I guess they're saying they would like it 
better with music but, of course, it has to be original music. Given that I am not a musician, I have had no luck  finding Indian CC music, anddon't have time to plow through the various CC music sources to look for anything else appropriate, this is a non-starter of a suggestion.
shrug One down, a few dozen new ones every day to go...
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[videoblogging] Weird Fireant Behavior

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Streeter
There is a weird thing going on with my Fireant lately. Its displaying
the quicktime window larger than the display window so that I have to
scroll around to see the entire picture. It's the same no matter what
size I chooses to view in. Anyone else have this problem? Is it
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Re: [videoblogging] Weird Fireant Behavior

2005-11-08 Thread Markus Sandy
yes, just recently on a mac, after attaching and detaching a second 
monitor or projector (also changing resolutions a few times)

i think i ended up having to shutdown fireant and reset the screen again 
(i had to actually change to a different res and then change back to the 
one I wanted before this worked)

i may have had to restart the mac too

i tend to think of this as a mac issue - i used to think windows apps 
were bad at handling dual monitors, but i have seen far more problems 
with macs in this area

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[videoblogging] Podcasters doing video

2005-11-08 Thread Verdi
Hey Eric Rice, et all...
How do we talk to the podcast community interested in doing video and  
let them know that a bunch of us have been doing video for a while  
now and can help if they'd like?
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But not everyone's so sure. Jawbone Radio host Len Peralta has no  
plans to start a videocast and is especially dismayed by podcasters  
who just turn a camera on themselves.

The Mary and Karla Show, for example, is painful to watch,  
complains Peralta, referring to a show by a pair of Portland, Maine,  
audio podcasters who, on the video version, sit by their computer or  
on couches talking. It's a head scratcher why people would watch  
that. What is added from the audio show?

Karla Preston, one of the co-hosts, takes the criticism in stride,  
noting that many listeners were curious to see what the Portland,  
Maine, podcasters look like. Their videocast, which started the same  
week Apple released the new iPod, is simply another way of  
experimenting in a new media, she says.

We wanted to be one of the first to try it out, and it turned out to  
be a huge success for us, says Preston, who notes her show has been  
recommended by Curry on PodFinder and regularly resides in iTunes'  
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[videoblogging] Re: YouTube - WTF?

2005-11-08 Thread petertheman
Oh, and something else: we should all blog about why YouTube sucks, so
that it will become well known and videoblog businesses don't model
themselves after that.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube - WTF?

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Sullivan



Well, let's also try not to over-emphasize this space.It is not the responsibility of every new start-up to FULLY adhere to the demands and wishes of the blogging community. There are many, if not more, regular people who want to share video but have little interest in blogging... or at least the geekery of blogging. 
Yes, YOUTube embedded themselves here to promote their service. Every video service will try to communicate to this groups 2000 members or whatever it is now. Some will be Right On like 
blip.tv, others will be Way Off and still others will hover in the middle. The fact that YOUTube received this funding has more to do with their design and features and the fact that we are in the midst of a huge Internet Video BOOM where videoblogging is one part of this boom for me, it's the part that truly matters the most, but that does not lessen the impact of the general ease of distributing/hosting vid clips.
Let's also keep in mind, as Peter touched on, that video can often receive mass attention if it becomes viral and contagious. Thousands or even millions of people will participate in spreading worthy video clips and try to create video clips that can garner such awesome attention on the Internet. 
How long have people been forwarding video clip links via email?  Years! It's a cultural thing.People want other people to see and hear stuff that they find . interesting or funny or whatever. Now, this has evolved a bit and in addition to forwarding video links via email, there are web services to help do that in addition to hosting, transcoding etcetera etcetera.
My interest is in videoblogging, obviously. But this does not make me blind to the bigger picture of what is going on with Digital Video + Internet + Broadband + Cheap Cameras.sull 
On 11/8/05, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can someone explain YouTube to me?I don't get what people like about this service.They have crappy transcoding, they brand your videos with their logo, they try to lock you into their website, you
 can't syndicate your videos via rss, and they still haven't changed their crazy terms of use where you basically give your work away to them. Can someone who uses this service explain what they like about it?
 Do you not care about these points that I bring up?Why not use another free alternative like Ourmedia or Blip? I don't get it.It's free hosting. That's pretty much it: *any* free video hosting
service will attract users (coz it's free! It's videos!) Theirbusinessmodel isn't bloggers, it's funny viral videos. I rantedabout this here:
http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/2005/11/06/2905/The fact that they got funded just points to the fact that most VC'sreally don't get this space.Blip is different, their business model is supoorting bloggers with
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube - WTF?

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Sullivan



oh, and of course, let's not forget that the Audience is larger than the pool of Content Creators.VC's know this. These are the people that they are interested in, afterall so advertisers can 'reach' them as the attention moves from TV to Internet Video... not to mention the millions of workers who sit in front of computers all day. 
business is business.sullOn 11/8/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, let's also try not to over-emphasize this space.It is not the responsibility of every new start-up to FULLY adhere to the demands and wishes of the blogging community. There are many, if not more, regular people who want to share video but have little interest in blogging... or at least the geekery of blogging. 
Yes, YOUTube embedded themselves here to promote their service. Every video service will try to communicate to this groups 2000 members or whatever it is now. Some will be Right On like 

blip.tv, others will be Way Off and still others will hover in the middle. The fact that YOUTube received this funding has more to do with their design and features and the fact that we are in the midst of a huge Internet Video BOOM where videoblogging is one part of this boom for me, it's the part that truly matters the most, but that does not lessen the impact of the general ease of distributing/hosting vid clips.
Let's also keep in mind, as Peter touched on, that video can often receive mass attention if it becomes viral and contagious. Thousands or even millions of people will participate in spreading worthy video clips and try to create video clips that can garner such awesome attention on the Internet. 
How long have people been forwarding video clip links via email?  Years! It's a cultural thing.People want other people to see and hear stuff that they find . interesting or funny or whatever. Now, this has evolved a bit and in addition to forwarding video links via email, there are web services to help do that in addition to hosting, transcoding etcetera etcetera.
My interest is in videoblogging, obviously. But this does not make me blind to the bigger picture of what is going on with Digital Video + Internet + Broadband + Cheap Cameras.sull 

On 11/8/05, petertheman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can someone explain YouTube to me?I don't get what people like about this service.They have crappy transcoding, they brand your videos with their logo, they try to lock you into their website, you
 can't syndicate your videos via rss, and they still haven't changed their crazy terms of use where you basically give your work away to them. Can someone who uses this service explain what they like about it?
 Do you not care about these points that I bring up?Why not use another free alternative like Ourmedia or Blip? I don't get it.It's free hosting. That's pretty much it: *any* free video hosting
service will attract users (coz it's free! It's videos!) Theirbusinessmodel isn't bloggers, it's funny viral videos. I rantedabout this here:

http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/2005/11/06/2905/The fact that they got funded just points to the fact that most VC'sreally don't get this space.Blip is different, their business model is supoorting bloggers with
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube - WTF?

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Sullivan



Right.My points are not saying that VC's have no interest in videoblogging. They do. Investors are tapping into it.There is potentially a huge market space for content creators and services that cater to them.
It takes deeper understandings and analysis than the simpler viral video services, but we all know vlogging is legit and nothing can stop the momentum. It is so on, getting bigger every day. Not a fad. sull
On 11/8/05, Brad Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but VCs also realize that compelling content makes for moreadvertising stickiness.. that's the problem, though, trying to balancereaching out to the people making the really cool content with makingthe site accessable, simple and easy enough for Mom to upload her
cooking examples or FratGuy uploading the viral videos.(Footnote: I'm biased, I built and maintain a competitor to YouTube --vSocial -- so take that into consideration with anything I say on this
matter)Michael Sullivan wrote: oh, and of course, let's not forget that the Audience is larger than the pool of Content Creators. VC's know this.These are the people that they are interested in,
 afterall so advertisers can 'reach' them as the attention moves from TV to Internet Video... not to mention the millions of workers who sit in front of computers all day. business is business.
 sull On 11/8/05, *Michael Sullivan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, let's also try not to over-emphasize this space. It is not the responsibility of every new start-up to FULLY adhere to the demands and wishes of the blogging community. There are
 many, if not more, regular people whowant to share video but have little interest in blogging... or at least the geekery of blogging. Yes, YOUTube embedded themselves here to promote their service.
 Every video service will try to communicate to this groups 2000 members or whatever it is now.Some will be Right On like blip.tv 
http://blip.tv, others will be Way Off and still others will hover in the middle. The fact that YOUTube received this funding has more to do with their design and features and the fact that we are in the midst of
 a huge Internet Video BOOM where videoblogging is one part of this boom for me, it's the part that truly matters the most, but that does notlessen the impact of the general ease of
 distributing/hosting vid clips. Let's also keep in mind, as Peter touched on, that video can often receive mass attention if it becomes viral and contagious. Thousands or even millions of people will participate in spreading
 worthy video clips and try to create video clips that can garner such awesome attention on the Internet. How long have people been forwarding video clip links via email? Years!It's a cultural thing.
 People want other people to see and hear stuff that they find . interesting or funny or whatever.Now, this has evolved a bit and in addition to forwarding video links via email, there are
 web services to help do that in addition to hosting, transcoding etcetera etcetera. My interest is in videoblogging, obviously.But this does not make me blind to the bigger picture of what is going on with
 Digital Video + Internet + Broadband + Cheap Cameras. sull On 11/8/05, *petertheman* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone explain YouTube to me?I don't get what people like about this service.They have crappy transcoding, they brand
 your videos with their logo, they try to lock you into their website, you can't syndicate your videos via rss, and they still haven't changed their crazy terms of use where you basically give your work
 away to them. Can someone who uses this service explain what they like about it? Do you not care about these points that I bring up?Why not use
 another free alternative like Ourmedia or Blip? I don't get it. It's free hosting. That's pretty much it: *any* free video hosting service will attract users (coz it's free! It's videos!) Their
 businessmodel isn't bloggers, it's funny viral videos. I ranted about this here: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/2005/11/06/2905/
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: You might be a vlogger if... post your own!

2005-11-08 Thread Josh Leo
if when you head is wounded and bleeding, you yell for your roomate to
fetch your video camera before a towel... (that one is from personal
experience)

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  Ah, the wonders of a shared language. It is a polite way of saying
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  Yet another reason why I love vlogging. It is educational in so many ways.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube - WTF?

2005-11-08 Thread Brad Webb
Because it works, works fast, and users are generally willing to 
sacrifice quality and freedom for just working... look at the threads 
over the past months about ourmedia/archive crapping out, average 
ADHD-level user just isn't going accept that as a solution. They also 
remove the what version of plugin XYZ am I running headache, which for 
people who actually follow these things and care isn't an issue, but I'm 
not going to (and can't) assume my mom has QT7 installed, and tell her 
well just go get it.. that's NOT a good user experience, IMO.

That being said, users DO need to be educated about aggregation, but 
that's a battle that's *still* being fought on the text-blog level. 
Waiting 5 minutes for a 2 minute clip is an excrutiating experience for 
an average user, and one that needs to be rectified.

Verdi wrote:

On Nov 8, 2005, at 8:13 AM, Michael Sullivan wrote:

  

oh, and of course, let's not forget that the Audience is larger  
than the pool of Content Creators.
VC's know this.  These are the people that they are interested in,  
afterall



I get that.  But why do users like the service?  Is it just because  
it's been inexplicably written up in places like Slashdot and  
BoingBoing?  It's just hype.  This is what bugs the shit out of me.
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[videoblogging] Re: YouTube - WTF?

2005-11-08 Thread t.whid
Part of the reason they do well is that their interface and features are very 
good IMHO. I'm 
not that familiar, but based on a quick perusal, they are doing lots of stuff 
right (social 
connections, RSS feed (with enclosures), tags, aggregating, ease-of-use, 
xml-rpc 
interface). They are doing lots of stuff wrong too of course (evil EULA, nasty 
logo bug, 
wonky flash format). I've not tried to upload a video so I can't comment on how 
the quality 
of that part of the service.

I'm sure the VCs simply looked at the numbers, if the numbers are there they 
figure the 
money will follow.

I agree with Verdi in that anyone with a smidgeon of sense wouldn't accept 
their EULA. 
Obviousely no one with any professional inclinations at all will use the 
service for this 
reason, but if it's easy-to-use and free they'll get lots of folks sharing 
video.

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  oh, and of course, let's not forget that the Audience is larger  
  than the pool of Content Creators.
  VC's know this.  These are the people that they are interested in,  
  afterall
 
 I get that.  But why do users like the service?  Is it just because  
 it's been inexplicably written up in places like Slashdot and  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube - WTF?

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Sullivan



Good thoughts, Bill.There are many free and cheap flv encoders out there that maybe are worthy of review if it makes more sense to encode yourself opposed to using web services.One that I have tried for Windows is Riva, 
http://www.rivavx.comhttp://www.rivavx.com/index.php?encoderL=3sull
On 11/8/05, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm experimenting with them, and here is how I think I can best usethem, baring the fact that they change their business model.I invariably get complaints that people don't have or want or can'tget a current version of QuickTime to view my videos. So I've been
looking for a solution to make my stuff more accessible whileretaining QT as my main distribution format. I've tried encodingmp4s without the QuickTime wrapper but doing that loses theadvantage of QuickTime has to download and play at the same time. So
what to do? I had thought of maybe setting up another blog withalternative formats on it and a separate RSS feed, but that seemstoo complicated. So what other solutions are there?Well flash, of course. The advantage of flash video is that it's
probably the most compatible format there is for Internet viewing.Of course the disadvantage is that it's not easy to create a flashvideo, and it's not easy to download, and it's not compatible withany portable player (at least the popular ones) and aggregators
cannot easily pick it up. But it is good for displaying video on aweb page that can be read by a high number of users because it hassuch a large install base.So here is the solution that I'm tinkering with. And this is not my
final idea about this, but it's an idea I'm experimenting with.YouTube encodes everything in Flash, and they allow you to easilyembed clips into your page by cutting and pasting a bit of code. Sowhat I am doing is making the YouTube stuff as a kind of the
playable thumbnails for my vlog posts and offering a high bit rateencoded QuickTime file for download and for my feed subscribers inthe same post. I think it should work because I think flash video isignored by feedburner as an enclosure if you set your feed to ignore
everything but video files—this may not be the case with all serversbut it seems to be the case on the one I'm using. The advantagebeing that I can service my feed subscribers with a good qualityipod compatible QT file and casual browsers of the site or the
QuickTime disabled can get the instant gratification of Flash video.Now the only drawbacks to this that I can see is that all mythumbnails are branded with the YouTube logo. And the Quality of theencoding by YouTube. And the possibility that YouTube might change
it's business model and screw the entire system up.I can deal with the logo for now, and the low bitrate encoding. It'san worthy trade off for me to provide those on slower connectionsaccess to my work. But the possibility that YouTube might start
embedding ads into my work, or charging for their service are thingsI expect to have to deal with at some point. I may end up justcreating the flash movies myself. But for now YouTube is a bit moreconvenient than that.
So that's my answer to how I use YouTube. I don't love it but I findit useful for the time being.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YouTube Receives $3.5M in Funding From Sequoia Capital 
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your videos with their logo, they try to lock you into their website,you can't syndicate your videos via rss, and they still haven'tchanged their crazy terms of use where you basically give your work away
to them. Can someone who uses this service explain what they like aboutit? Do you not care about these points that I bring up?Why not use another free alternative like Ourmedia or Blip?
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Re: [videoblogging] Embedding videos on external sites?

2005-11-08 Thread David Meade
hmm ... maybe you could get them to add a subscription button on their
page that lets their users subscribe to your feed.  I mean if their
viewers would enjoy them so much it seems like something they might
actually like to offer their users.  With that and your URL included
in the video ... might be ok.

If it were me, I'd like a link back to my site on any of the video
pages, and a way for thier audiance to subscribe to my videos that
they are enjoying so much.

- Dave
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 The good: exposure and more viewers of the videos.

 The bad: disconnected from our site and more importantly the ability
 to comment.

 These are not normal vlog watchers.  Most probably do not understand
 RSS, the appreciation of comments, etc.

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[videoblogging] Re: YouTube - WTF?

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Streeter
Yeah, I may end up doing that. I have the capabilities to do it 
myself. But the fact is that it's dead easy to upload it to YouTube 
and let them encode it. And there is the added avantage of them 
hosting the files. I'm on par for hitting a 120 gig this cycle so 
the more I can save on bandwidth the better. I'm not at my limit but 
I can see that it's gonna be a real problem at some point so I'm 
looking at ways of dealing with it now.

Bill Streeter
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www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Michael Sullivan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good thoughts, Bill.
 
 There are many free and cheap flv encoders out there that maybe 
are worthy
 of review if it makes more sense to encode yourself opposed to 
using web
 services.
 
 One that I have tried for Windows is Riva, http://www.rivavx.com
 http://www.rivavx.com/index.php?encoderL=3
 
 sull
 
 
 On 11/8/05, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm experimenting with them, and here is how I think I can best 
use
  them, baring the fact that they change their business model.
 
  I invariably get complaints that people don't have or want or 
can't
  get a current version of QuickTime to view my videos. So I've 
been
  looking for a solution to make my stuff more accessible while
  retaining QT as my main distribution format. I've tried encoding
  mp4s without the QuickTime wrapper but doing that loses the
  advantage of QuickTime has to download and play at the same 
time. So
  what to do? I had thought of maybe setting up another blog with
  alternative formats on it and a separate RSS feed, but that seems
  too complicated. So what other solutions are there?
 
  Well flash, of course. The advantage of flash video is that it's
  probably the most compatible format there is for Internet 
viewing.
  Of course the disadvantage is that it's not easy to create a 
flash
  video, and it's not easy to download, and it's not compatible 
with
  any portable player (at least the popular ones) and aggregators
  cannot easily pick it up. But it is good for displaying video on 
a
  web page that can be read by a high number of users because it 
has
  such a large install base.
 
  So here is the solution that I'm tinkering with. And this is not 
my
  final idea about this, but it's an idea I'm experimenting with.
  YouTube encodes everything in Flash, and they allow you to easily
  embed clips into your page by cutting and pasting a bit of code. 
So
  what I am doing is making the YouTube stuff as a kind of the
  playable thumbnails for my vlog posts and offering a high bit 
rate
  encoded QuickTime file for download and for my feed subscribers 
in
  the same post. I think it should work because I think flash 
video is
  ignored by feedburner as an enclosure if you set your feed to 
ignore
  everything but video files—this may not be the case with all 
servers
  but it seems to be the case on the one I'm using. The advantage
  being that I can service my feed subscribers with a good quality
  ipod compatible QT file and casual browsers of the site or the
  QuickTime disabled can get the instant gratification of Flash 
video.
 
  Now the only drawbacks to this that I can see is that all my
  thumbnails are branded with the YouTube logo. And the Quality of 
the
  encoding by YouTube. And the possibility that YouTube might 
change
  it's business model and screw the entire system up.
 
  I can deal with the logo for now, and the low bitrate encoding. 
It's
  an worthy trade off for me to provide those on slower connections
  access to my work. But the possibility that YouTube might start
  embedding ads into my work, or charging for their service are 
things
  I expect to have to deal with at some point. I may end up just
  creating the flash movies myself. But for now YouTube is a bit 
more
  convenient than that.
 
  So that's my answer to how I use YouTube. I don't love it but I 
find
  it useful for the time being.
 
  Bill Streeter
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  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   YouTube Receives $3.5M in Funding From Sequoia Capital
   http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=100442
  
   Can someone explain YouTube to me? I don't get what people like
   about this service. They have crappy transcoding, they brand
  your
   videos with their logo, they try to lock you into their 
website,
  you
   can't syndicate your videos via rss, and they still haven't
  changed
   their crazy terms of use where you basically give your work 
away
  to
   them.
  
   Can someone who uses this service explain what they like about
  it?
   Do you not care about these points that I bring up? Why not use
   another free alternative like Ourmedia or Blip?
  
   I don't get it.
   Verdi
  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: YouTube - WTF?

2005-11-08 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Joshua Kinberg wrote:
   On 11/8/05, Pete Prodoehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Joshua Kinberg wrote:

The thing that I really don't understand about thee sites receiving
funding is that the barrier to entry for competition is so slim. It
wouldn't be too difficult for a developer to replicate YouTube or
Revver in a matter of a week or two.

But you couldn't replicate the user base, the social part of it in a
week or two...  More and more it's about the social network of your
app/site, which is both good and bad at the same time...


  I think its too early for any of these services to claim they've
  capitalized on the social network.
 
  Friendster thought they had that wrapped up and then Myspace ate them 
for lunch.

I'm not suggesting that any service has wrapped up the social network 
part of it, but once you get the ball rolling, your user base can 
quickly grow, and unless new services come along that are compelling 
enough to get you to switch, perhaps with more/better features what's to 
entice people away? del.icio.us got big and then the competitors came. 
They tended to offer neat new features del.icio.us did not have, but to 
me, a geek, the important features of del.icio.us were things like the 
ability to export my data daily via an API, and the fact that it was 
'one guy I trusted' versus some company I'd never heard of.

Some services, like Flickr, seem to get it right all around. Others only 
get some parts of it aligned with what I am after.

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[videoblogging] Re: Embedding videos on external sites?

2005-11-08 Thread cooper3acd
If it's going on a mainstream resort site, it's doubtful they'll 
want to use quicktime (despite it's relative superiority)

Just a thought...

Cheers,
Rob

PS Worrying about rev-sharing on ads won't be worth the effort - 
just tell them you need a link to your site. I think you can do it 
in a wmv as well (if you end up going there).

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wrote:

 Sounds like you should embed a clickable subscribe to my vlog 
link
 at the end of your videos. This is not difficult to do with 
Quicktime.
 
 -Josh
 
 
 On 11/8/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What revenue?  No money involved.  The community site uses Google
  AdSense, but that is a joke.  There is no need to share the 
pennies
  Google pays.  I just want a free season pass to one of the 
resorts
  next year.  It would cost them nothing and most of the videos 
would be
  from there.  Too bad resorts tend to be tight asses.
 
  -Matt
 
 
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  wrote:
  
   Sounds like the perfect mix for a sponsorship. They bring the
  traffic, you
   bring the vids. You share the revenue from the 
Sports/CPG/LifeStyle
  sponsor.
  
   On 11/8/05, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 hmm ... maybe you could get them to add a subscription 
button on
  their
page that lets their users subscribe to your feed. I mean if 
their
viewers would enjoy them so much it seems like something 
they might
actually like to offer their users. With that and your URL 
included
in the video ... might be ok.
   
If it were me, I'd like a link back to my site on any of the 
video
pages, and a way for thier audiance to subscribe to my 
videos that
they are enjoying so much.
   
- Dave
http://www.davidmeade.com
   
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 Our recently released ski/snowboard vlog has been getting 
some good
 exposure from a single Northwest community site. They get 
a fair
 number of visitors during the winter months and have asked 
me if
  they
 could embed our videos in their site.

 The good: exposure and more viewers of the videos.

 The bad: disconnected from our site and more importantly 
the ability
 to comment.

 These are not normal vlog watchers. Most probably do not 
understand
 RSS, the appreciation of comments, etc.

 What do you guys think? I guess it would be okay if we got 
more
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Pete Prodoehl
havilahland33 wrote:
 TV sucks.  I've heard it nicknamed as 'time vaporizer'.  Go vid blogs!

Is it fair to use such a blanket statement? There is plenty of good 
stuff on television, most of it is not on the major networks. (Though 
Arrested Development nearly made me laugh my *ass* off last night.)

Maybe blogs suck, or videoblogs suck, or... you get the idea, it's all 
really personal opinion.

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Re: [videoblogging] episodic videoblog

2005-11-08 Thread Christopher Weagel

And its what Human Dog has been doing for awhile.

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On Nov 8, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Jay dedman wrote:

 Has this been posted?
 its some East Coast guys doing a chapter-story in a videoblog.
 http://www.reelblogs.com/
 I believes this show refers to what Andrew Baron has pushed for.
 Talented individuals who are using blogs with RSS to distribute
 independent video.
 there's room for it all.

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[videoblogging] Re: Does size matter?

2005-11-08 Thread Share
hey jay,
thanks for the fast answer.
i am relieved to hear your response. (first episode is around 25Mb)
yes we are using a free storage space but it's at ourmedia/archives
which as of now doesn't seem to have limits. 
if anyone else has any other opinionsi'm all codec'd ears and eyes.

share


  Okay. trick question. but it's in regards to the size of the
  compressed mov file. does anyone have any recommended file sizes to
  stay within?
  Interested in hearing opinions on this in regards to the best
  codecs...and the overall size ideals.
 
 its changing.
 when i first started in 2004we tried to keep our videos under
1MB. haha
 then it seemd like 20mb was okay.
 now id say you could do 100mb if youre really offering up something i
 want to watch.
 
 it all depends on your hosting.
 if youre on a free service...your just limited by their
storage/bandwidth.
 if youre using your own server, then you can do whatever you want to
pay for.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Does size matter?

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
The main thing is length not file size. You're not making a 30 minute tv  
show (you could, but it'd hardly be a blog). Personally I like 2 minutes  
stories, but as long as you keep each entry under 4-5 minutes..

- Andreas

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:54:00 +0100, Share [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hey jay,
 thanks for the fast answer.
 i am relieved to hear your response. (first episode is around 25Mb)
 yes we are using a free storage space but it's at ourmedia/archives
 which as of now doesn't seem to have limits.
 if anyone else has any other opinionsi'm all codec'd ears and eyes.

 share


  Okay. trick question. but it's in regards to the size of the
  compressed mov file. does anyone have any recommended file sizes to
  stay within?
  Interested in hearing opinions on this in regards to the best
  codecs...and the overall size ideals.

 its changing.
 when i first started in 2004we tried to keep our videos under
 1MB. haha
 then it seemd like 20mb was okay.
 now id say you could do 100mb if youre really offering up something i
 want to watch.

 it all depends on your hosting.
 if youre on a free service...your just limited by their
 storage/bandwidth.
 if youre using your own server, then you can do whatever you want to
 pay for.

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[videoblogging] NYC Meet up/Node101 Party!

2005-11-08 Thread ryanne hodson
mark your calendars
the NYC Videoblogger meet up will be happening at Node101
and it's more than just a plain old meet up
it's a party!
BYOB and bring snacks too

the idea is that all vloggers will bring a non-vlogger  and
non-vloggers, bring yourself
(i guess that includes jay and i, do we even know any non-vloggers?)

it will be awesome for all to check out Node101, our new videoblogging
classroom!
and get more people videoblogging

Sunday November 13th, 6pm on.
@Node101
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between Ludlow and Orchard

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Re: [videoblogging] episodic videoblog

2005-11-08 Thread Jay dedman
 And its what Human Dog has been doing for awhile.

 Chris Weagel
 www.human-dog.com

yep...Human-dog is one of the unsung heroes.
check out the dog if you havent already.
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[videoblogging] Re: YouTube - WTF?

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Streeter
Yeah there really isn't much going on with the social networking 
aspects of YouTube that I can see. They ain't no Flickr that's fer 
sho. 

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 Friendster thought they had that wrapped up and then Myspace ate 
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   wouldn't be too difficult for a developer to replicate YouTube 
or
   Revver in a matter of a week or two.
 
  But you couldn't replicate the user base, the social part of 
it in a
  week or two...  More and more it's about the social network of 
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  app/site, which is both good and bad at the same time...
 
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[videoblogging] FreeVlog-Made on a MAC-SoHo Apple store

2005-11-08 Thread ryanne hodson
hey all
I'll be presenting FreeVlog and Videoblogging in general
at the SoHo Apple Store for their Made on a Mac workshop series.
Please pass this along to anyone you think would be interested in
learning videoblogging in NYC...

Thursday, November 17th 6-8pm
and
Tuesday, December 6th 6:30-8pm

Apple Store SoHo
103 Prince Street
New York, NY 10012
(212) 226-3126
http://www.apple.com/retail/soho/map/

How to get here: The Apple store is located on the Northeast corner of
Prince Street and Greene Street.

From the R and W subway lines: Exit Prince Street stop. The store is
two blocks west.

From the C and E subway lines: Exit Spring Street stop. The store is
located five blocks east and one block north.

From the #6 subway line: Exit Spring Street stop. The store is located
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Jay dedman
  TV sucks.  I've heard it nicknamed as 'time vaporizer'.  Go vid blogs!

 Is it fair to use such a blanket statement? There is plenty of good
 stuff on television, most of it is not on the major networks. (Though
 Arrested Development nearly made me laugh my *ass* off last night.)
 Maybe blogs suck, or videoblogs suck, or... you get the idea, it's all
 really personal opinion.

yeah, we're all learning the balance.
blogging wont bring down traditional media.
but blogging(text, audio, and video) does offer a greater and greater
alternative.

ive had a clear realization during the current coverage fo the
Fitzgerald indictments:
blogging lets the people help tell the story.
why?
because journalists either are lazy or dont have the time to research.
usually they turn to think tanks(heritage foundation), experts, etc
for their info
now blogs are now becoming a reliable resource...so we start seeing
blogs affecting how traditonal media reports.
Blogging has done a GREAT job documenting in detail how the current
adminstration has led the US into war. and now you see this info
popping up on the traditonal outlets.
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Hardball-Runupto.mov
bloggers of all sides can go back and forth clarifying the facts.

as far as entertainment, sometimes I want to watch a Hollywwod movie/TV show.
sometimes i want to watch independent or homemade video.
the point is: now i have a choice when there was none.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Jay dedman
 ive had a clear realization during the current coverage fo the
 Fitzgerald indictments:
 blogging lets the people help tell the story.
 why?
 because journalists either are lazy or dont have the time to research.
 usually they turn to think tanks(heritage foundation), experts, etc
 for their info
 now blogs are now becoming a reliable resource...so we start seeing
 blogs affecting how traditonal media reports.
 Blogging has done a GREAT job documenting in detail how the current
 adminstration has led the US into war. and now you see this info
 popping up on the traditonal outlets.
 http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Hardball-Runupto.mov
 bloggers of all sides can go back and forth clarifying the facts.

i hotlinked to a video.
sorry:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/11/07.html#a5756

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:55:44 +0100, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 because journalists either are lazy or dont have the time to research.
 usually they turn to think tanks(heritage foundation), experts, etc
 for their info

Why don't speaking to someone else constitute research? Everyone has an  
agenda, both the blogger and the think tank.
Which do you think is researched better: The average blog entry or the  
average newspaper story?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Does size matter?

2005-11-08 Thread David Meade
I try to keep mine as small as possible just out of courtesy to
viewers who are syncing up a large list of feeds to portable devices
like the iPod or PSP.

Thankfully in most cases, those devices are now coming with very large
capacity.  The PSP however still has fairly limited storage – but none
the less people are using the new PSP media management software to
subscribe and sync up vlogs.

I think the best way to judge it is to have in mind a video quality
standard you want to maintain and then do everything you can on
filesize at that quality.

I'm still having a few troubles finding a nice middle ground.  20-25MB
seems pretty standard, I think … though I have gotten nice clips in
the 10-15 range …

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 The main thing is length not file size. You're not making a 30 minute tv
 show (you could, but it'd hardly be a blog). Personally I like 2 minutes
 stories, but as long as you keep each entry under 4-5 minutes..

 - Andreas

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  hey jay,
  thanks for the fast answer.
  i am relieved to hear your response. (first episode is around 25Mb)
  yes we are using a free storage space but it's at ourmedia/archives
  which as of now doesn't seem to have limits.
  if anyone else has any other opinionsi'm all codec'd ears and eyes.
 
  share
 
 
   Okay. trick question. but it's in regards to the size of the
   compressed mov file. does anyone have any recommended file sizes to
   stay within?
   Interested in hearing opinions on this in regards to the best
   codecs...and the overall size ideals.
 
  its changing.
  when i first started in 2004we tried to keep our videos under
  1MB. haha
  then it seemd like 20mb was okay.
  now id say you could do 100mb if youre really offering up something i
  want to watch.
 
  it all depends on your hosting.
  if youre on a free service...your just limited by their
  storage/bandwidth.
  if youre using your own server, then you can do whatever you want to
  pay for.
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Embedding videos on external sites?

2005-11-08 Thread David Meade
Is the linking something you could do in a saved 5 second vid that you
just copy past to the end of each new video? ... or will that mess up
the text tracks?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:12:29 +0100, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is that a trick question?  First of all, I don't think you can
 compare the average newspaper article with an average blog
 article.

I wasn't, Jay was. :o)

 And, for that matter, the average newspaper article.  Are we
 talking feature articles, simple news event articles (I'm sure there
 must be a term of art for these but I don't know what it is), or what?

Exactly, and the same for the average blog entry. Jay was setting things  
up to mean 'journalism == lazy, unresearched stories; blogs == The  
Truth(tm)'. The generalization is very far from what's going on. Some  
journalistic stories are not fact-checked, but they are in the minority.  
Some blog entries are great investigative journalism, but they are in the  
minority.

Blogging in itself isn't more true than any other medium. It's just as  
easy to lie to promote an agenda on a blog - probably easier since you  
don't have to try and sneak your lie past an editor.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:23:09 +0100, ronenwastaken  
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 Most 'serious' newspapers and magazines have replaced serious research
 with turnover time and cost-efficiency.

I'd hate to hear what you have to say about lawyers.

 *[this is a word I can never spell]

Necessary.

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[videoblogging] Tivo to Computer

2005-11-08 Thread Kearney, Pat
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Charles HOPE






Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:

  
Blogging in itself isn't more true than any other medium.


It's not if I sit around and blog about life on Mars. But when
discussing something that I've experienced first hand, my version is in
fact truer than what would be reported by a journalist who will
interview me, chop up my quotes, miss the thrust of my story, combine
it with irrelevant filler, pass it under the busybody eyes of an editor
thrice removed, and squeeze it out into a steaming heap that's
guaranteed to annoy anyone closely familiar with the event. 


  




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:49:32 +0100, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:

 Blogging in itself isn't more true than any other medium.
 It's not if I sit around and blog about life on Mars. But when discussing
 something that I've experienced first hand, my version is in fact truer  
 than
 what would be reported by a journalist who will interview me, chop up my  
 quotes,
 miss the thrust of my story, combine it with irrelevant filler, pass it  
 under
 the busybody eyes of an editor thrice removed, and squeeze it out into a
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Truer for whom?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Mike Hudack


On Nov 8, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:Truer for whom?Ever read a news article on a subject that you're intimately familiar with?  Maybe it was about a concert you were at, a political function you organized, or a videoblogging community you're a member of?Do they ever not make you squirm?




  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:08:43 +0100, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Nov 8, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:

 Truer for whom?

 Ever read a news article on a subject that you're intimately familiar
 with?  Maybe it was about a concert you were at, a political function
 you organized, or a videoblogging community you're a member of?

In daily newspapers? Yes. I've read both the kind that made me feel good  
(the concert review from the concert I attended the day before) and those  
that made me feel not-so-good (generally those involving technical  
matters). But the latter are not written for me, and that makes one hell  
of a difference. Among other things the job of the journalist at the daily  
newspaper is to simplify for the masses - if everyone understood the  
details of everything I would agree that we could just get rid of most  
journalists. However, none of us understand the details of about  
everything.

I have also read articles on highly specialised topics in magazines that  
were very well done. That I learned from even though I'm intimately  
familiar with the topic.

The real question here is: Why are blogs any different? For every one  
person who writes in-depth like the magazine journalist there are 200 who  
simplify like the journalist at the daily paper. I fail to see the  
problem. Other than the fact that the journalist usually went to school to  
learn how to simplify without misrepresentation.

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Jay dedman
 Exactly, and the same for the average blog entry. Jay was setting things
 up to mean 'journalism == lazy, unresearched stories; blogs == The
 Truth(tm)'. The generalization is very far from what's going on. Some
 journalistic stories are not fact-checked, but they are in the minority.
 Some blog entries are great investigative journalism, but they are in the
 minority.

okay..funny thing was...i was trying to say there is a balance between
the truth in blogs and the truth in tradiotional media.
think of the last time a traditional news outlet covered something you
knew intimately (ie videblogging).
were all the facts correct?
is there a blog that may have the facts more correct becasue the
person focuses just on that subject?

this isnt about blogs vs traditional media.
its about acknowledging that the flow of info is changing.
bloggers if anything are fact checkers.

 Blogging in itself isn't more true than any other medium. It's just as
 easy to lie to promote an agenda on a blog - probably easier since you
 don't have to try and sneak your lie past an editor.

again, I think this may be a matter of culture.
Andreas is in Denmark where their traditional media may be more secure.
in the US where i live, you can SEE the spin in every story reported.
this is why the Daily Show is one of the most popular shows on US
TV...by shining a light on the absurdity of US news coverage.
having an editor may mean you MUST twist the truth.

blogs do not equal truth.
my point was simply that blogs help tell the story.
showing my bias, bloggers such as http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ do
a great job piecing together the facts of a storyyou can judge his
credibility by going through his archives. Josh Marshall did a recent
group of postings on the specific flow of events of the Bush
admnistration manufacturing the story of the Niger/nuclear/Iraq
connection.
when i worked at CNNtrust me...we didnt have time to do weeks of
research...you find other people to tell the story...and fact check
the best you can.
But bloggers are telling the storyand are now can affect how
traditional journalism works.

wait till we get more video coming from important events around the world.
i would kill to see videoblogs from the rioting in Paris.
who are these people...what are their motivations?...what does it sound like?

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[videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hudack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Nov 8, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:
 
  Truer for whom?
 
 Ever read a news article on a subject that you're intimately familiar  
 with?  Maybe it was about a concert you were at, a political function  
 you organized, or a videoblogging community you're a member of?
 
 Do they ever not make you squirm?


The accuracy of reporting is based on the veractiy of the individual
reporting, not the method of reporting whether through a newspaper,
blog, radio news, podcast, television news, vlog.  Those are methods
and technologies, they don't determine the truth of the information
provided.

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[videoblogging] Re: Does size matter?

2005-11-08 Thread Gena
From the other end of the spectrum, I try to keep my videos under 5
minutes or 5MB. Although the numbers are getting smaller, not
everybody is on cable/dsl/free or acquired wi-fi. 

I think that some vloggers have files that are huge because they don't
know how to compress a video for other types of viewers. I don't
object to large file sizes, if you have content that requires it. I
fully support that. I just can't view it.

Some vloggers want a certain level of video quality and that does
require a high speed connection  viewers. 

Yet, I hold out the candle for those that can create video content
that is accessible to a spectrum of viewers. There is no shame in the
under 5MB game. It can be a creative challenge if you work it right.

As always, it isn't the size of the tool but what you do with it.

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 Okay. trick question. but it's in regards to the size of the
 compressed mov file. does anyone have any recommended file sizes to
 stay within?
 
 Interested in hearing opinions on this in regards to the best
 codecs...and the overall size ideals.
 
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RE: [videoblogging] Tivo to Computer

2005-11-08 Thread Kearney, Pat
This is good for PC's , any Mac love out there? 

-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake 
Ludington
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:24 PM
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Subject: RE: [videoblogging] Tivo to Computer

 
 Hey everyone, how do u get Tivo'd shows off tivo and into your 
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Tivo Desktop:
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RE: [videoblogging] Tivo to Computer

2005-11-08 Thread Jim Vinson










Mac aside, even the tivo desktop for PC doesnt
yield a file ready for editing. It is DRM protected.











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to Computer





This is good for PC's , any
Mac love out there? 

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 Hey everyone, how do u get Tivo'd
shows off tivo and into your 
 computer for editing?

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RE: [videoblogging] Tivo to Computer

2005-11-08 Thread Jake Ludington
 
 This is good for PC's , any Mac love out there?

You didn't scroll down. Oh wait, Mac users don't have a scroll wheel. :P

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RE: [videoblogging] Tivo to Computer

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Mac aside, even the tivo desktop for PC
doesnt yield a file ready for editing. It is DRM protected.



DirectShow Dump deals with the .tivo file
extension problem  Im not sure what the Mac equivalent is:

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:22:23 +0100, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The accuracy of reporting is based on the veractiy of the individual
 reporting, not the method of reporting whether through a newspaper,
 blog, radio news, podcast, television news, vlog.  Those are methods
 and technologies, they don't determine the truth of the information
 provided.

That's about fifteen times more eloquent than I can ever hope to be. I'll  
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RE: [videoblogging] Tivo to Computer

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Mac aside, even the tivo desktop for PC
doesnt yield a file ready for editing. It is DRM protected.



This might help with the Mac problem:

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Jay dedman
 In daily newspapers? Yes. I've read both the kind that made me feel good
 (the concert review from the concert I attended the day before) and those
 that made me feel not-so-good (generally those involving technical
 matters). But the latter are not written for me, and that makes one hell
 of a difference. Among other things the job of the journalist at the daily
 newspaper is to simplify for the masses - if everyone understood the
 details of everything I would agree that we could just get rid of most
 journalists. However, none of us understand the details of about
 everything.
 The real question here is: Why are blogs any different? For every one
 person who writes in-depth like the magazine journalist there are 200 who
 simplify like the journalist at the daily paper. I fail to see the
 problem. Other than the fact that the journalist usually went to school to
 learn how to simplify without misrepresentation.


you bring up two good pints:
--most journalism tries to simplfy a complex issue for the masses.
--why are blogs different

blogs are different becasue they dont have to simplify anything.
they in fact can get very very specific about a topic/event.
this is GREAT.
therefore...if a blogger can prove his/her integrity, the blog can
become a source for the journalist.

here's how it works.
im going to do an article on Andreas Pederson.
what do i do?
i google his name.
i spend the evening reading up on blogs posts you have written or
written about you.
when i call you for the interview...i have a lot of background from
which to begin the questioning.

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[videoblogging] First vlog is up!

2005-11-08 Thread Share
Alright!  We finally committed (maybe we should be committed?) and
filmed this thing we've talked about
forever...rocknrolltv.net!  eeahaw.  

http://www.rocknrolltv.net

I'm not sure what we are yet?  ...music news...and more...but we
plan to include interviews with hollywood-ites...and other useless
information for entertainment purposes.  
The sort of stuff you WON'T SEE ON MTV!  yeah. that's the idea.

Anyway, would love feedback from this group as you guys helped us pull
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Markus Sandy






great timing:
http://revlog.blogspot.com/2005/11/daily-show-on-gay-marriage.html




Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:

  On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:55:44 +0100, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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because journalists either are lazy or dont have the time to research.
usually they turn to think tanks(heritage foundation), experts, etc
for their info

  
  
Why don't speaking to someone else constitute research? Everyone has an  
agenda, both the blogger and the think tank.
Which do you think is researched better: The average blog entry or the  
average newspaper story?

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Does size matter?

2005-11-08 Thread Markus Sandy
lol - my wife has far more free space on her iPod than I do on my 
Powerbook's 100GB drive!

i wish i could download from fireant, directly to the iPod (not stored 
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Re: [videoblogging] First vlog is up!

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[videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Enric
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 great timing:
 http://revlog.blogspot.com/2005/11/daily-show-on-gay-marriage.html
 
 
 

The Daily Show and http://supr.c.ilio.us/ I often find the most honest
presentation of current issues whether in culture or tech respectively.

   ;),

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 On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:55:44 +0100, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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 because journalists either are lazy or dont have the time to research.
 usually they turn to think tanks(heritage foundation), experts, etc
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 Why don't speaking to someone else constitute research? Everyone
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 agenda, both the blogger and the think tank.
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[videoblogging] Re: Does size matter?

2005-11-08 Thread Enric
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 lol - my wife has far more free space on her iPod than I do on my 
 Powerbook's 100GB drive!
 
 i wish i could download from fireant, directly to the iPod (not stored 
 on computer)

I agree.  I'm having a hard time filling up my 60 gb. iPod.  And have
no problem putting a video over 50 mb on it.

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[videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Streeter
I would agree on a very general level. It's true that technically the
medium itself does not determine a stories truthfulness. But some of
those media are layered with a bureaucratic infrastructure that makes
the truth harder to get out in some cases. Sometimes what is not
reported is as important as what is reported. For instance, there is
such a thing as a lie by omission and it happens all the time in
traditional media. And more often than not it's not the reporters
fault but the system within they work that makes the lie possible.

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Enric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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  On Nov 8, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote:
  
   Truer for whom?
  
  Ever read a news article on a subject that you're intimately
familiar  
  with?  Maybe it was about a concert you were at, a political
function  
  you organized, or a videoblogging community you're a member of?
  
  Do they ever not make you squirm?
 
 
 The accuracy of reporting is based on the veractiy of the individual
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[videoblogging] Re: First vlog is up!

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Streeter
I dig it! Nice job, keep it up!

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Share [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alright!  We finally committed (maybe we should be committed?) and
 filmed this thing we've talked about
 forever...rocknrolltv.net!  eeahaw.  
 
 http://www.rocknrolltv.net
 
 I'm not sure what we are yet?  ...music news...and more...but we
 plan to include interviews with hollywood-ites...and other useless
 information for entertainment purposes.  
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[videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Bill Streeter
You are so right Markus. Time is the new bandwidth restriction. Or the
old one, or the one that we all can always count on. The think about
my PVR (generic TIVO) is that I record all this stuff that never gets
watched. There is one night a week that my wife and I really sit down
and watch TV and it's kinda like our thing we do together (well you
know besides that other thing we do together.) And that's Sunday
night, we watch one of the great HBO dramas or comedies. 

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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think that the real issue is the clock and the fact that there are 
 only so many viewing hours in a day.  For me, there is now more
media to 
 sift through on the web than I can handle and so there is almost no
time 
 left for TV (or text blogs for that matter).  I really only watch TV to 
 be social (image that!).  I'm sure there are some good things on, but I 
 don't have time for them.
 
 Also, there are so many bad or negative things on (mainly ads and what 
 passes for news) that I actually enjoy not seeing them.  I imagine 
 they will find their way to the vlogosphere in due time (some
already have).
 
 My wife just got an iPod.  Now I send her media.  More viewing minutes 
 that have to come from somewhere (for both her and me). 
 
 So now I am locked in a head-to-head battle with CSI for her
attention.  
 It was like that when I was watching too. ;)
 
 Now if Tivo came with a few extra hours for each day... ah hell, i'd 
 just watch more vlogs :)
 
 Markus
 
 
 
 Jay dedman wrote:
 
 TV sucks.  I've heard it nicknamed as 'time vaporizer'.  Go vid
blogs!
   
 
 Is it fair to use such a blanket statement? There is plenty of good
 stuff on television, most of it is not on the major networks. (Though
 Arrested Development nearly made me laugh my *ass* off last night.)
 Maybe blogs suck, or videoblogs suck, or... you get the idea, it's all
 really personal opinion.
 
 
 
 yeah, we're all learning the balance.
 blogging wont bring down traditional media.
 but blogging(text, audio, and video) does offer a greater and greater
 alternative.
 
 ive had a clear realization during the current coverage fo the
 Fitzgerald indictments:
 blogging lets the people help tell the story.
 why?
 because journalists either are lazy or dont have the time to research.
 usually they turn to think tanks(heritage foundation), experts, etc
 for their info
 now blogs are now becoming a reliable resource...so we start seeing
 blogs affecting how traditonal media reports.
 Blogging has done a GREAT job documenting in detail how the current
 adminstration has led the US into war. and now you see this info
 popping up on the traditonal outlets.
 http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Hardball-Runupto.mov
 bloggers of all sides can go back and forth clarifying the facts.
 
 as far as entertainment, sometimes I want to watch a Hollywwod
movie/TV show.
 sometimes i want to watch independent or homemade video.
 the point is: now i have a choice when there was none.
 
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[videoblogging] Re: First vlog is up!

2005-11-08 Thread Gena
Looks dang good from what little I can see, talk to the Hollywood-ites
if you must but please, please, please talk  video to independent
bands, lone voices and the un-definables. There is so much good music
here that is just waiting for you to knock on the door.

Having said that,  you are under no obligation to promote the
aesthetically pretty and/or untalented w/o benefit of technological
assistance. Leave them to the promotion department of a soon to be
extinct recording company.

She who can't carry a tune in a reinforced bucket,

Gena  http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Share [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alright!  We finally committed (maybe we should be committed?) and
 filmed this thing we've talked about
 forever...rocknrolltv.net!  eeahaw.  
 
 http://www.rocknrolltv.net
 
 I'm not sure what we are yet?  ...music news...and more...but we
 plan to include interviews with hollywood-ites...and other useless
 information for entertainment purposes.  
 The sort of stuff you WON'T SEE ON MTV!  yeah. that's the idea.
 
 Anyway, would love feedback from this group as you guys helped us pull
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[videoblogging] Embedding video in your blog template

2005-11-08 Thread Beth Kanter
Hi all,

Check this out.  It is a wordpress blog, but it has a video clip
embedded in the template.  It's clip of the blogger giving his elevator
speech.  I haven't seen this before and really like it.  Any clue as to
how one might do this with a typepad blog?

http://ehub.journalism.ku.edu/~plafferty/


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Re: [videoblogging] Embedding video in your blog template

2005-11-08 Thread Ted Tagami



It's a fixed embed within the template itself:

embed src=http://ehub.journalism.ku.edu/~plafferty/wp-content/plafferty.mov
 width=160 height=136 
autostart=false loop=false href=
http://ehub.journalism.ku.edu/~plafferty/wp-content/plafferty.mov target=
myself/embed
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Embedding videos on external sites?

2005-11-08 Thread Ted Tagami



That's too bad. A buddy of mine runs a destination site
(tahoeguide.com) and tied it into the VCB (Visitors and Convention
Bureau) and lodging services. He's built up a nice residual business
off of sharing in the lodging commissions...On 11/8/05, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




What revenue? No money involved. The community site uses Google
AdSense, but that is a joke. There is no need to share the pennies
Google pays. I just want a free season pass to one of the resorts
next year. It would cost them nothing and most of the videos would be
from there. Too bad resorts tend to be tight asses.

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 Sounds like the perfect mix for a sponsorship. They bring the
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 bring the vids. You share the revenue from the Sports/CPG/LifeStyle
sponsor.
 
 On 11/8/05, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hmm ... maybe you could get them to add a subscription button on
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  page that lets their users subscribe to your feed. I mean if their
  viewers would enjoy them so much it seems like something they might
  actually like to offer their users. With that and your URL included
  in the video ... might be ok.
 
  If it were me, I'd like a link back to my site on any of the video
  pages, and a way for thier audiance to subscribe to my videos that
  they are enjoying so much.
 
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they
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   The good: exposure and more viewers of the videos.
  
   The bad: disconnected from our site and more importantly the ability
   to comment.
  
   These are not normal vlog watchers. Most probably do not understand
   RSS, the appreciation of comments, etc.
  
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[videoblogging] java viewer?!

2005-11-08 Thread Digital
Hey Folks -

We've been talking about ease of use in aggregation and I keep hearing
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this? I would think the install base should be the same or larger than
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Jay dedman
 You are so right Markus. Time is the new bandwidth restriction. Or the
 old one, or the one that we all can always count on. The think about
 my PVR (generic TIVO) is that I record all this stuff that never gets
 watched. There is one night a week that my wife and I really sit down
 and watch TV and it's kinda like our thing we do together (well you
 know besides that other thing we do together.) And that's Sunday
 night, we watch one of the great HBO dramas or comedies.

yep...our ATTENTION is the most valuable commodity on the market.
http://www.attentiontrust.org/
thats why i get so pissed at ads, especially when i didnt ask for them.

i was in the cab the other day...and the drive had the radio playing.
all these ads starting bloaring and all i could think of is...why?
why would he just sit there and let the ads blare away.
things are changing.

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Re: [videoblogging] Embedding video in your blog template

2005-11-08 Thread Markus Sandy






or just put the same code in a typelist item and add via the wysiwyg
layout editor, if you're not using templates in typepad

Ted Tagami wrote:
It's a fixed embed within the template itself:
  
  embed src="http://ehub.journalism.ku.edu/~plafferty/wp-content/plafferty.mov
" 
width="160" height="136" 
autostart="false" loop="false" 
href=
"http://ehub.journalism.ku.edu/~plafferty/wp-content/plafferty.mov" 
target=
"myself"
/embed
  
  
  On 11/8/05, Beth Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Hi all,

Check this out. It is a wordpress blog, but it has a video clip
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[videoblogging] Re: Re: watching personal videos

2005-11-08 Thread Khoo, Joan
I think we have all come to a realization that journalism as we know it
can and is biased and generalized. The difference between traditional
journalism and blogging is the perspective. We expect bloggers to
express their views and to some extent, expect their views to be biased
towards themselves. However we expect traditional journalism to be
unbiased and precise, which is quite impossible in itself as humans are
not able to be completely without biased. 

I personally prefer to read different perspectives on the same subject
and to come to my own conclusion (ie different blogger perspectives on
the current events in France) than to hear my six o'clock news summarize
the events and underlying reasons for me as I'm sure it would have some
kind of spin on it. 

Cheers,
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   Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:20:02 -0500
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Subject: Re: Re: watching personal videos

 Exactly, and the same for the average blog entry. Jay was setting
things
 up to mean 'journalism == lazy, unresearched stories; blogs == The
 Truth(tm)'. The generalization is very far from what's going on. Some
 journalistic stories are not fact-checked, but they are in the
minority.
 Some blog entries are great investigative journalism, but they are in
the
 minority.

okay..funny thing was...i was trying to say there is a balance between
the truth in blogs and the truth in tradiotional media.
think of the last time a traditional news outlet covered something you
knew intimately (ie videblogging).
were all the facts correct?
is there a blog that may have the facts more correct becasue the
person focuses just on that subject?

this isnt about blogs vs traditional media.
its about acknowledging that the flow of info is changing.
bloggers if anything are fact checkers.

 Blogging in itself isn't more true than any other medium. It's just as
 easy to lie to promote an agenda on a blog - probably easier since you
 don't have to try and sneak your lie past an editor.

again, I think this may be a matter of culture.
Andreas is in Denmark where their traditional media may be more secure.
in the US where i live, you can SEE the spin in every story reported.
this is why the Daily Show is one of the most popular shows on US
TV...by shining a light on the absurdity of US news coverage.
having an editor may mean you MUST twist the truth.

blogs do not equal truth.
my point was simply that blogs help tell the story.
showing my bias, bloggers such as http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ do
a great job piecing together the facts of a storyyou can judge his
credibility by going through his archives. Josh Marshall did a recent
group of postings on the specific flow of events of the Bush
admnistration manufacturing the story of the Niger/nuclear/Iraq
connection.
when i worked at CNNtrust me...we didnt have time to do weeks of
research...you find other people to tell the story...and fact check
the best you can.
But bloggers are telling the storyand are now can affect how
traditional journalism works.

wait till we get more video coming from important events around the
world.
i would kill to see videoblogs from the rioting in Paris.
who are these people...what are their motivations?...what does it sound
like?

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Re: [videoblogging] java viewer?!

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Shipp
Digital wrote:

Hey Folks -

We've been talking about ease of use in aggregation and I keep hearing
about Flash. Isn't there an open source solution like java that can do
this? I would think the install base should be the same or larger than
a closed system like Flash.

If anyone knows of a java converter/viewer, I'd love to hear about it!

  

Flash gets mentioned because the penetration rate is somewhere around 
97% of all web browsers.  Most likely, any web-based aggregators will go 
with Flash for video. 

On the other hand, Java's penatration rate within browsers is unknown 
and probably inconsistent in terms of versioning.  There's one Java 
aggregator that I've found that does a decent job, even though it's 
beta, called I/ON:

http://www.digitalmerging.la/archives/2005/10/ion_video_console_and_media_manager.html


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Does size matter?

2005-11-08 Thread David Meade
Yeah but consider PSP users who maybe have a gig.  Now consider how
many vlogs you subscribe to ... :-P

Not everyone who wants to take stuff handheld has a portable video
device with so much space.

It's changing ... but we're not in the world of everyone has more
space/bandwidth than they need just yet.  Some of us are lucky that
we do ... but there are plenty of people who still use dial up, let
along walk around with tens and tens of gigs in their pockets :-P


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  i wish i could download from fireant, directly to the iPod (not stored
  on computer)

 I agree.  I'm having a hard time filling up my 60 gb. iPod.  And have
 no problem putting a video over 50 mb on it.

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Re: [videoblogging] java viewer?!

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Sullivan



check RSSOWL tooOn 11/8/05, Michael Shipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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[videoblogging] Re: vlog videoconference question

2005-11-08 Thread Enric
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 lots of people gave me links, but then the chat closed and ALAS, they
 pulled a kaiser soze
 
 so if anyone who gave me a link can post it here, or email me,
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I'd appreciate it
 
 R


Go to the replay version of the Flash Meeting, 

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Re: [videoblogging] java viewer?!

2005-11-08 Thread Lucas Gonze
On 11/8/05, Michael Shipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Flash gets mentioned because the penetration rate is somewhere around
 97% of all web browsers.  Most likely, any web-based aggregators will go
 with Flash for video.

 On the other hand, Java's penatration rate within browsers is unknown
 and probably inconsistent in terms of versioning.  There's one Java
 aggregator that I've found that does a decent job, even though it's
 beta, called I/ON:

I/ON looked quite cool when I saw it demo'd.

In the most recent Macromedia stats that I've seen (a few months old)
they listed Flash at 97% and Java around 80%.  Quicktime was around
60-70%.  To adjust for the difference between any install at all and
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Re: [videoblogging] java viewer?!

2005-11-08 Thread Michael Shipp


Lucas Gonze wrote:

On 11/8/05, Michael Shipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Flash gets mentioned because the penetration rate is somewhere around
97% of all web browsers.  Most likely, any web-based aggregators will go
with Flash for video.



I/ON looked quite cool when I saw it demo'd.

In the most recent Macromedia stats that I've seen (a few months old)
they listed Flash at 97% and Java around 80%.  Quicktime was around
60-70%.  

I'm actually surprised that Java is higher than Quicktime, no matter how 
you cut it.  But I know that the QT number you quote has been fairly 
steady for some time now. 

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