RE: thinking about taking the plunge

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, it will. iOS 7 runs very well on a 4S. Just make sure you take these
steps before you install:

 

1. Do a backup either via iCloud or iTunes (should be logical)

2. Turn off Bluetooth.

3. Bring up the app switcher and force quit all apps.

4. Power down your phone completely, wait 30 seconds and turn it on again
or, this is what Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast recommends instead of
turning your phone off and on, go to Settings, General, Reset and tap Reset
Network Settings. This will also reboot your phone, you will have to
re-enter your WiFi password when it's back up.

5. Now do the install of iOS 7.02.

6. I even recommend that once it's done and the Voiceover is back that you
once again completely power down the phone, wait 30 seconds and then power
it on a final time before you start using iOS 7. Once that is done, the
first thing I suggest you do is go to Settings, General, Accessibility and
turn "On" Reduce Motion" towards the end of accessibility settings.

 

There is not necessarily any proof that turning off Bluetooth will do
anything, but it won't hurt and it's just good preventive maintenance to
remove all apps from the app switcher and to at least power cycle your
phone. If I install major updates on my PC I don't do it with 10 programs
open either and while this is not exactly the same, it's still just a good
idea. I have never had anything go wrong with an update by doing this and
Rob says the same whereas other people sometimes run into all sorts of stuff
and end up doing a full restore afterwards at some point if things don't
seem right.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: thinking about taking the plunge

 

Hello Listers,

I am considering installing The iOS 7.02 update on my iPhone 4s.  How ever I
didn't install the 7.0 original iOS operating system.  Will the 7.02 give me
the operating system anyway?

 

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RE: Where can I find the layout for the Apple BlueTooth keyboard

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Teresa,

The top row is easy, it has a total of 14 keys. The very top left is Escape, 
then there is F1 to F12 and the very top right is your show/hide keyboard 
button. If you, for example, have the Apple Wireless keyboard connected to your 
iPhone and then go into an edit field, chances are your virtual keyboard will 
be hidden and you have to press that top right button so it shows up on the 
screen.

At the bottom is, of course, the spacebar in the middle. On the right side of 
the spacebar are only 2 keys and then you have the arrows (inverted T shape) 
with left arrow, down arrow and right arrow across the bottom and up arrow at 
the top by itself.
The 2 keys between the spacebar and the left arrow are Command (what is Alt on 
a Windows keyboard) and Option.
On the left you have 4 keys to the left of the spacebar. Once again right to 
the left and closest to the spacebar you have Command and next to it Option 
(just as on the right side).
The third key from the spacebar (second from the outside) is Control and the 
very outside is I think FN (Function) and I'm not sure what it all can do as I 
never use it.

The Control and Option key pressed together are the Voiceover Key and one good 
way to explore your keyboard is to press Control+Option+K. This starts keyboard 
help and now you can press any key and Voiceover will tell you what it is 
except it won't say anything for the function keys.
Here is I know what they do:

F1: Decreases screen brightness
F2: Increases screen brightness

F7: Skip Back during playback, hold it and it rewinds
F8: Play/Pause
F9: Skip Forward, hold it and it fast forwards
F10: Mute/Unmute toggle
F11: Volume down
F12: Volume up

It's a good idea to turn on keyboard help with Control+Option+K, then hold down 
Control+Option and try various letters to see what they do.
For example:

Control+Option+H: Like pressing the home button
Control+Option+F: Find item that matches search text
Control+Option+S: Speech On/Off toggle, like a 3-finger double tap

Enjoy,
Sieghard
 and On the very outside is Control, then I think is a FN (Function) key and 
then Command and Option again with Option right next to the spacebar.

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Subject: Where can I find the layout for the Apple BlueTooth keyboard

Hi gang,

I just bought the keyboard yesterday and am going to a weekend
workshop and need to take notes. I am going to attempt to do this on
my iPhone using the notes app that comes on the phone.

Can someone tell me where to find the layout for the keyboard? I know
the qwerty part but the top row and the bottom rows are what I am not
familuar with.

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Re: Where can I find the layout for the Apple BlueTooth keyboard

[Chris H]

Ok the top row features escape, then f1 through f12. On the bottom row 
is, in this order: fn, control, option, command, space and the arrow 
keys left, down, right with up right above the down. Press control 
option k to envoke VoiceOver practice so you can explore the keyboard 
yourself.


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On 17/10/2013 04:05, Teresa Christian wrote:

Hi gang,

I just bought the keyboard yesterday and am going to a weekend
workshop and need to take notes. I am going to attempt to do this on
my iPhone using the notes app that comes on the phone.

Can someone tell me where to find the layout for the keyboard? I know
the qwerty part but the top row and the bottom rows are what I am not
familuar with.

Thanks in advance



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Re: thinking about taking the plunge

[Chris H]

Yes it will. I find it works very well on my iPhone 4s, so much better 
than it does on the 4.


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Hello Listers,
I am considering installing The iOS 7.02 update on my iPhone 4s.  How ever I 
didn't install the 7.0 original iOS operating system.  Will the 7.02 give me 
the operating system anyway?

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RE: AT&T, 4G and LTE

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Tom,

 

Andy's answer is almost correct. LTE and 4G are actually thought of as the
same, however, AT&T chose to display their HSPA+ connection as 4G even
though theoretically it's 3G. I think maybe it's supposed to make people
feel better or that they are getting something faster than they are getting.

 

In any case, LTE if that is how AT&T is now showing that you have a true LTE
connection definitely is a lot faster than what they used to call 4G and
which most other carriers called 3G.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Of Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: AT&T, 4G and LTE

 

Hi all, especially AT&T users with an iPhone 5 or higher,

 

This may seem like a stupid question, but I always tell my students that the
only stupid questions are the ones that aren't asked. So here goes.  I've
used an iPhone 4 on AT&T for 2 and a half years with either wi-fi or 3g, and
now that I've had my 5S on AT&T for a couple of weeks now, I'm curious about
something.  When I'm not connected to wi-fi and am out and about, sometimes
my status bar will say 4g, and other times it will say LTE.  Is there a
difference between the two? What's 4g all about versus LTE, and why would I
see one versus the other?

 

Thanks,

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

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Re: Strange Dong noise in maps tracking with headings iOS 7

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Not even with tracking with headings on? 
Even appel's accessibility people saw dongs but at different frequencies than 
me. 
Very curious. 

Thanks,


Ioana
 



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> On Oct 16, 2013, at 5:37 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> I have not experienced any sounds like that when using maps in iOS 7 on my 
> iPhone five.
> 
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> 
>> On 16 Oct 2013, at 16:11, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I am currently discussing with apple accessibility an issue I reported and 
>> they cannot clearly verify it or don't seem to get my description. SO, I am 
>> curious if any of you has seen this and approached them with this.
>> 
>> When I turn on tracking with headings my iPhone 5 with iOS 7.02 gives off a 
>> series of dongs kind of like when you try to flick past the last element on 
>> the screen. FOr me they repeat at constant intervals when stationary and I 
>> think also when I am walking but can't bet on this. Time is about 4 sec. 
>> This is regardless wether I am navigating a route or not.
>> 
>> They appear to think that, if phone is stationary, this sound repeats more 
>> and more oftenn and suppose it is to remind you that you are using GPS and 
>> draining your battery. THis does not make sense to me and I personally think 
>> this dong constantly sounding off is either a bug with the way my phone 
>> works or in iOS 7.\My husband's phone is giving off sae regular repeating 
>> sounds when stationary. Haven't tried moving around with it. Will do so soon.
>> 
>> Any thoughts,
>> Ioana 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhon
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Re: AT&T, 4G and LTE

[Andy Baracco]

They’re different. LTE is the fastest cellular connection you can get, but it’s 
not available everywhere, so as you travel you may shuttle between 4G and LTE 
coverage.

Andy

From: Tom Lange 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: AT&T, 4G and LTE
Hi all, especially AT&T users with an iPhone 5 or higher,

This may seem like a stupid question, but I always tell my students that the 
only stupid questions are the ones that aren't asked. So here goes.  I've used 
an iPhone 4 on AT&T for 2 and a half years with either wi-fi or 3g, and now 
that I've had my 5S on AT&T for a couple of weeks now, I'm curious about 
something.  When I'm not connected to wi-fi and am out and about, sometimes my 
status bar will say 4g, and other times it will say LTE.  Is there a difference 
between the two? What's 4g all about versus LTE, and why would I see one versus 
the other?

Thanks,

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thinking about taking the plunge

[Michael Amaro]

Hello Listers,
I am considering installing The iOS 7.02 update on my iPhone 4s.  How ever I 
didn't install the 7.0 original iOS operating system.  Will the 7.02 give me 
the operating system anyway?

Thanks
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AT&T, 4G and LTE

[Tom Lange]

Hi all, especially AT&T users with an iPhone 5 or higher,

This may seem like a stupid question, but I always tell my students that the 
only stupid questions are the ones that aren't asked. So here goes.  I've used 
an iPhone 4 on AT&T for 2 and a half years with either wi-fi or 3g, and now 
that I've had my 5S on AT&T for a couple of weeks now, I'm curious about 
something.  When I'm not connected to wi-fi and am out and about, sometimes my 
status bar will say 4g, and other times it will say LTE.  Is there a difference 
between the two? What's 4g all about versus LTE, and why would I see one versus 
the other?

Thanks,

Tom



 

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Re: Transferring BARD books to your phone [was "Re: Interesting dellema with the bard ap."]

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Zipping a book means you can copy all the files at once, which is harder to do 
with iTunes file sharing. Also, if you leave a braille file zipped, BARD will 
treat it as a single, multi-volume book rather than treating each braille file 
as its own separate book.

Best,
Anna



On Oct 16, 2013, at 9:09 PM, Marc Sutton  wrote:

> I did not zip up the .brf file. That's a good suggestion. I assumed that 
> since .brf files are so small, that would not be necessary.
> 
> On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
>> Did you leave it as a zipped file?
>> 
>> I haven't tried .BRF; I transferred an audio book.  The instructions I read 
>> said to leave it zipped up.  The Bard app will unzip it.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Traci
>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 6:07 AM, Marc Sutton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have tried transferring a .brf file using Itunes. It did not show up in 
>>> BARD. Has anyone else had luck with this method? I ended up having success 
>>> with using Dropbox instead, but still wonder why the Itunes method seemed 
>>> to fail.
>>> Marc
>>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
>>> 
 A bard audio book has several different parts. This will make it hard to
 identify the proper book if it's not zipped.
 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Transferring BARD books to your phone [was "Re: Interesting
> dellema with the bard ap."]
> 
> What happens if the file is no longer zipped? Can it still be transferred
> through Itunes or Dropbox?
> 
> Shannon
> On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Robert Hill  wrote:
> 
>> I have had good luck using iTunes to transfer books.
>> You're right, you might have to restart BARD to have it show the books.
>> I haven't had any issues authorizing books to play.
>> 
>> Bob Hill
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
> wrote:
>> 
>>> You can also use iTunes to transfer books to your phone. I haven't done
 it
> myself yet, but a few different people have posted instructions to the
 list.
> You may run into the same problem though, where you won't be able to
> authorize those books if your phone can't get to the authorization servers
> for the mobile app.
>>> 
>>> For example, Russ Kiehne posted these instructions to the list:
>>> 
>>> Doing some research, I found the following, hope it helps:
>>> Loading books into the BARDmobile app
>>> 
>>> The BARDmobile app is able to play any DAISY/NISO 2005 formatted
>>> book. To load the books into the iOS device for playback use the
> following instructions.
>>> 1. If not in a ZIP archive format. You should compress the directory
>>> holding the books files into a ZIP file.
>>> 2. Connect the iOS device to your computer with a USB cable.
>>> 3. Open the iTunes application and select the iOS device button at
>>> the right of the main window.
>>> 4. select the "Apps" radio button on the main screen.
>>> 5. At the bottom of the Apps screen is a section titled "File
>>> Sharing" with a column list of apps. One of those will be the
 BARDmobile
> app select it.
>>> 6. Press the "Add." button located in the bottom right of the screen.
>>> This will give you a dialog to select the ZIP file from step one. The
>>> book will then be added to the app. You may need to restart BARDmobile
> to see the new book.
>>> NOTE:
>>> At this time the BARDmobile app will only play DAISY/NISO 2005 books.
>>> Other DAISY formats such as DAISY 2.02 and ePub 3 will simply fail to
> load.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/13/2013 06:24 AM, Thom Spittle wrote:
 If you have dropbox, you shold be able to transfer it to the phone.
 Keep it as a zip file. Go to the file via dropbox. Once loaded, you
 can export to bard mobile.
 The only catch is authenticating the book with bard. If their system
 is down, it may not authenticate it.
 
 HTH,
 Thom
 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Dawn Petty
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Interesting dellema with the bard ap.
> 
> I am also experiencing this.  I tried to add the book push by safire.
 when I go
> to my wish list it says zero itims but if I go back to the book it
> gives
 me a
> remove from wish list link.  I am able to download it on to my pc
> though.
 is
> there any way to get it to the phone?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From

Where can I find the layout for the Apple BlueTooth keyboard

[Teresa Christian]

Hi gang,

I just bought the keyboard yesterday and am going to a weekend
workshop and need to take notes. I am going to attempt to do this on
my iPhone using the notes app that comes on the phone.

Can someone tell me where to find the layout for the keyboard? I know
the qwerty part but the top row and the bottom rows are what I am not
familuar with.

Thanks in advance
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Re: wifi and cell

[Alex Hall]

On iOS, that authentication tends to pop up when you select the wifi network in 
settings. However, VO sometimes has focus problems for a minute or so once the 
page appears, so be patient with it.
On Oct 16, 2013, at 7:40 PM, "Ed Barnes"  wrote:

> Good evening Regina.
> I have read a few of the messages in this thread so far.
> And, if your wireless works fine inside your home, outside near your home,
> and not at the exercise room, I'm asuming here that this reference to
> Brighthouse is the exercise room itself or a public gym, is it possible that
> the public wifi uses username and password authentication.
> In most cases where a public wifi requires any sort of authentication
> username and password you are prompted for it the first time you open up a
> web browser on your laptop, therefore, what happens if you go to the
> exercise room with your iPhone with its wifi enabled, and open up its web
> browser, are you prompted for credentials.
> Just a suggestion/thought.
> Please keep us updated.
> Good luck - Ed.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: wifi and cell
> 
> Need a techie. I am running 7.02. I am with Sprint, am on wifi and have
> unlimited data, texts and well whatever else besides calling where I have
> 450 minutes. I am fine when in my house or outside, but since about 2 weeks
> ago I can connect to nothing that I would normally be able to connect to on
> wifi at my exercise room. Wifi is on, but even if I was not able to use wifi
> there, which I can but cannot seem to access, would not my iPhone connect
> via cellular if it could not via wifi? Doesn't cellular kick in when there
> is no wifi? Thanks for any help you can give me. I cannot even ask Siri to
> start my timer.
> 
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
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Re: Transferring BARD books to your phone [was "Re: Interesting dellema with the bard ap."]

[Marc Sutton]

I did not zip up the .brf file. That's a good suggestion. I assumed that since 
.brf files are so small, that would not be necessary.

On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

> Did you leave it as a zipped file?
> 
> I haven't tried .BRF; I transferred an audio book.  The instructions I read 
> said to leave it zipped up.  The Bard app will unzip it.
> 
> HTH,
> Traci
> On Oct 16, 2013, at 6:07 AM, Marc Sutton  wrote:
> 
>> I have tried transferring a .brf file using Itunes. It did not show up in 
>> BARD. Has anyone else had luck with this method? I ended up having success 
>> with using Dropbox instead, but still wonder why the Itunes method seemed to 
>> fail.
>> Marc
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
>> 
>>> A bard audio book has several different parts. This will make it hard to
>>> identify the proper book if it's not zipped.
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
 Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:13 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Transferring BARD books to your phone [was "Re: Interesting
 dellema with the bard ap."]
 
 What happens if the file is no longer zipped? Can it still be transferred
 through Itunes or Dropbox?
 
 Shannon
 On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Robert Hill  wrote:
 
> I have had good luck using iTunes to transfer books.
> You're right, you might have to restart BARD to have it show the books.
> I haven't had any issues authorizing books to play.
> 
> Bob Hill
> 
> On Oct 13, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
 wrote:
> 
>> You can also use iTunes to transfer books to your phone. I haven't done
>>> it
 myself yet, but a few different people have posted instructions to the
>>> list.
 You may run into the same problem though, where you won't be able to
 authorize those books if your phone can't get to the authorization servers
 for the mobile app.
>> 
>> For example, Russ Kiehne posted these instructions to the list:
>> 
>> Doing some research, I found the following, hope it helps:
>> Loading books into the BARDmobile app
>> 
>> The BARDmobile app is able to play any DAISY/NISO 2005 formatted
>> book. To load the books into the iOS device for playback use the
 following instructions.
>> 1. If not in a ZIP archive format. You should compress the directory
>> holding the books files into a ZIP file.
>> 2. Connect the iOS device to your computer with a USB cable.
>> 3. Open the iTunes application and select the iOS device button at
>> the right of the main window.
>> 4. select the "Apps" radio button on the main screen.
>> 5. At the bottom of the Apps screen is a section titled "File
>> Sharing" with a column list of apps. One of those will be the
>>> BARDmobile
 app select it.
>> 6. Press the "Add." button located in the bottom right of the screen.
>> This will give you a dialog to select the ZIP file from step one. The
>> book will then be added to the app. You may need to restart BARDmobile
 to see the new book.
>> NOTE:
>> At this time the BARDmobile app will only play DAISY/NISO 2005 books.
>> Other DAISY formats such as DAISY 2.02 and ePub 3 will simply fail to
 load.
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/13/2013 06:24 AM, Thom Spittle wrote:
>>> If you have dropbox, you shold be able to transfer it to the phone.
>>> Keep it as a zip file. Go to the file via dropbox. Once loaded, you
>>> can export to bard mobile.
>>> The only catch is authenticating the book with bard. If their system
>>> is down, it may not authenticate it.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Thom
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Dawn Petty
 Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:06 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Interesting dellema with the bard ap.
 
 I am also experiencing this.  I tried to add the book push by safire.
>>> when I go
 to my wish list it says zero itims but if I go back to the book it
 gives
>>> me a
 remove from wish list link.  I am able to download it on to my pc
 though.
>>> is
 there any way to get it to the phone?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jenifer Barr
 Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:32 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Interesting dellema with the bard ap.
 
 Hi all.
 So, I added some books to my wishlist like I always do from the
 website on my computer.  Before when I'd do this I'd go to the ap
 on my phone, into
>>> my
 wishlist and download them.  But, now, when I go into the ap,
 they're not there.  I

RE: latest IOs 7 update ??

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Crystal,

 

Unless you really need the alphabet on the keypad there is no reason why you
shouldn't install the 7.02 update since it's mainly a security fix.

I never cared for hearing the alphabet when I touch the numbers since I have
this internalized to the point where I don't really have to think about
which letters are on which number and I always thought that most people
would.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Crystal French
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: latest IOs 7 update ??

 

Hi,

I'm finally getting accustomed to the 5s.

 

I have to say I am impressed with it.

 

I have not installed the latest iOs 7 update yet.

 

I think there were some bugs, such as the alphabet disappearing from the
phone keypad, but I can't recall if there was anything else significant that
bothered users with it.

 

I am happy that I did make the move from the 4 to the 5s.

 

Thanks,

Crystal 

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Re: Trust this computer

[Teresa Christian]

Yeah but I am getting very tired of having to do it all the time.
Alright a few times but it won't seem to quit.

On 10/16/13, Wayne gmail  wrote:
> It is happening to me too.  I just tell it to trust and move on.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Teresa Christian
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Trust this computer
>
> I am having the same problem with the trust this computer message. How can I
> make it stop?
>
> On 10/13/13, Alan Paganelli  wrote:
>> I have both XP and iOS 7 on my iPhone 4 and am not experiencing this.
>> I get the trust message but once I double tap don't trust, I never see
>> it again until I connect my iPhone 4 to my computer.  Usually just to
>> charge it.
>> ---
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>
>> Please click on:
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
>> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format
>> formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
>> listening!
>>
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Tom Rash
>>   To: viphone
>>   Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:34 AM
>>   Subject: Trust this computer
>>
>>
>>   Is anyone having this trouble.  When I plug in my iPhone via the US
>> cord to my computer, I keep getting the trust this computer message.
>> After I hit trust, it keeps coming back, about a dozen times.  Is the
>> problem my computer or something with the iPhone.
>>   I'm using a PC with XP.  Also using IOS 7 on the iPhone 4S.  Thanks.
>>
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Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Verizon does use a sim card for the 5 and 5s. This stores phone
numbers and other information. It comes already installed in the
phone. If you feel on the right side of the phone when in portrait
you'll feel a very tiny whole about halfway up the phone. If you ever
need to replace the phone it can be taken out of the old one and added
to the new one. As I said before it is very easy to set up. Just call
Verizon from a different phone.

On 10/16/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> Verizon uses sim cards for 4G/LTE, which is GSM based.
>
> On 10/16/2013 05:34 PM, Candy Lowe wrote:
>> Tracy, Verizon does not use a Sim card. You don't have to worry about
>> that.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, thanks for the replies.
>>>
>>> Lol, first of all, I'm soo glad to hear about the speaker issue
>>> not existing in the 5s.  It is driving me nuts in my 4s.
>>>
>>> Verizon may have sim cards now, because of the 4g/lte.  I saw it
>>> mentioned in my shipping details.  Hopefully, it is pre-installed.
>>>
>>> The instructions I found on the web say I need to call a number to
>>> activate 4g/lte on my account.
>>>
>>> We'll see, I'm sure it'll all be easy once started.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Traci
 On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
 wrote:

 Hi Tracy,

 My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that
 the
 UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they
 sell
 Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before
 6 PM
 when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them
 until
 this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt
 anybody.

 Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
 Apple's "It just works" definitely applies here.
 I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my
 new
 Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know AT&T
 and
 T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a
 CDMA
 carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain
 how
 your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that
 different
 as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon
 website.

 After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a
 new
 phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it
 had
 power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
 After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point
 on.
 Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the
 phone
 in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
 I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I
 pressed
 the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
 I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country
 and
 so on.
 The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi
 right
 there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can
 enable
 iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
 The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
 right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing
 since
 touch typing is not enabled by default.
 It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup
 process.
 You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new
 phone
 or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
 restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.

 Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a
 newer
 version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the
 iOS
 7.02 update.

 While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
 website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few
 days
 ago.
 I use Koodo here in Canada which is a MVNO owned by Telus.
 I clicked on "Mobile Phones" and then on "Change Phone".
  From here I had 2 radio buttons to choose from, one was "Upgrade my
 Phone"
 and one was "New SIM Card in my current phone". I chose the first,
 clicked
 next and was now asked to enter the SIM Card Number. I had already
 written
 that down so I just copied it and pasted it, clicked next, confirmed
 one
 more time and it was done.

 At that point the update was also done and when my phone came back on
 Voiceover was talking and my new SIM worked.
 I now first went into Voiceover settings and downloaded the Enhanced
 Quality
 voice for US English, then t

More on the 5S calibration issues

[Cara Quinn]

Here's an in-depth article on the 5S calibration issues we've been discussing 
here.

http://gizmodo.com/heres-why-the-iphone-5s-accelerometer-is-so-screwed-up-1445966306

Enjoy!

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RE: Trust this computer

[Wayne gmail]

It is happening to me too.  I just tell it to trust and move on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Christian
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trust this computer

I am having the same problem with the trust this computer message. How can I 
make it stop?

On 10/13/13, Alan Paganelli  wrote:
> I have both XP and iOS 7 on my iPhone 4 and am not experiencing this.  
> I get the trust message but once I double tap don't trust, I never see 
> it again until I connect my iPhone 4 to my computer.  Usually just to charge 
> it.
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>   - Original Message -
>   From: Tom Rash
>   To: viphone
>   Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:34 AM
>   Subject: Trust this computer
>
>
>   Is anyone having this trouble.  When I plug in my iPhone via the US 
> cord to my computer, I keep getting the trust this computer message.  
> After I hit trust, it keeps coming back, about a dozen times.  Is the 
> problem my computer or something with the iPhone.
>   I'm using a PC with XP.  Also using IOS 7 on the iPhone 4S.  Thanks.
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RE: wifi and cell

[Ed Barnes]

Good evening Regina.
I have read a few of the messages in this thread so far.
And, if your wireless works fine inside your home, outside near your home,
and not at the exercise room, I'm asuming here that this reference to
Brighthouse is the exercise room itself or a public gym, is it possible that
the public wifi uses username and password authentication.
 In most cases where a public wifi requires any sort of authentication
username and password you are prompted for it the first time you open up a
web browser on your laptop, therefore, what happens if you go to the
exercise room with your iPhone with its wifi enabled, and open up its web
browser, are you prompted for credentials.
Just a suggestion/thought.
Please keep us updated.
Good luck - Ed.


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Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: wifi and cell

Need a techie. I am running 7.02. I am with Sprint, am on wifi and have
unlimited data, texts and well whatever else besides calling where I have
450 minutes. I am fine when in my house or outside, but since about 2 weeks
ago I can connect to nothing that I would normally be able to connect to on
wifi at my exercise room. Wifi is on, but even if I was not able to use wifi
there, which I can but cannot seem to access, would not my iPhone connect
via cellular if it could not via wifi? Doesn't cellular kick in when there
is no wifi? Thanks for any help you can give me. I cannot even ask Siri to
start my timer.



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Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[Christopher Chaltain]

Verizon uses sim cards for 4G/LTE, which is GSM based.

On 10/16/2013 05:34 PM, Candy Lowe wrote:

Tracy, Verizon does not use a Sim card. You don't have to worry about that.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hi all, thanks for the replies.

Lol, first of all, I'm soo glad to hear about the speaker issue not 
existing in the 5s.  It is driving me nuts in my 4s.

Verizon may have sim cards now, because of the 4g/lte.  I saw it mentioned in 
my shipping details.  Hopefully, it is pre-installed.

The instructions I found on the web say I need to call a number to activate 
4g/lte on my account.

We'll see, I'm sure it'll all be easy once started.

Thanks again,
Traci

On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tracy,

My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that the
UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they sell
Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before 6 PM
when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them until
this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt anybody.

Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
Apple's "It just works" definitely applies here.
I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my new
Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know AT&T and
T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a CDMA
carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain how
your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that different
as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon website.

After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a new
phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it had
power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point on.
Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the phone
in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I pressed
the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country and
so on.
The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi right
there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can enable
iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing since
touch typing is not enabled by default.
It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup process.
You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new phone
or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.

Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a newer
version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the iOS
7.02 update.

While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few days
ago.
I use Koodo here in Canada which is a MVNO owned by Telus.
I clicked on "Mobile Phones" and then on "Change Phone".
 From here I had 2 radio buttons to choose from, one was "Upgrade my Phone"
and one was "New SIM Card in my current phone". I chose the first, clicked
next and was now asked to enter the SIM Card Number. I had already written
that down so I just copied it and pasted it, clicked next, confirmed one
more time and it was done.

At that point the update was also done and when my phone came back on
Voiceover was talking and my new SIM worked.
I now first went into Voiceover settings and downloaded the Enhanced Quality
voice for US English, then the Australien one and then I added German and
downloaded the high quality german voice.
Now after I send this I will restore from my encrypted iTunes backup. At
first I thought I start over, but I already had gotten rid of as many apps
as I could by uninstalling those I don't use a lot. I also unsynced all my
music and photos because I wanted a smaller backup and quicker restore
process. This way I get back the important apps, my email accounts will be
restored as will be my Favorites in the Phone app and my text messages.
I use Office 365 which is hosted Exchange from Microsoft for my business
email and Outlook.com for my personal accounts so as soon as these accounts
will be restored all my email and contacts will sync to my phone again and
there is nothing I will have to do here to get all of that back.

OK, good luck with your 5S, it's unbelieveable fast and everything seems to
happen instantly.

Oh, you are also asked to set up Touch ID during the initial setup. You can
choose t

Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all,

Activation went fine.  :)  Fingerprint set up went flawlessly as well.

I did need to call VZW and speak to someone, for some reason the automated 
system wasn't activating my phone.

Thank you for your help.

Traci
On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:51 PM, "Troy Sullivan"  wrote:

> Same here, I did not install anything, it could of been in there this whole 
> time and I didn't even know it.
> - Original Message - From: "Les Kriegler" 
> To: 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users
> 
> 
>> Tracy, I am a Verizon customer and I can assure you that I did not install 
>> any Sim cards into my phone. If it's there, I don't even know about it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, thanks for the replies.
>>> 
>>> Lol, first of all, I'm soo glad to hear about the speaker issue not 
>>> existing in the 5s.  It is driving me nuts in my 4s.
>>> 
>>> Verizon may have sim cards now, because of the 4g/lte.  I saw it mentioned 
>>> in my shipping details.  Hopefully, it is pre-installed.
>>> 
>>> The instructions I found on the web say I need to call a number to activate 
>>> 4g/lte on my account.
>>> 
>>> We'll see, I'm sure it'll all be easy once started.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Traci
 On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Hi Tracy,
 
 My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that the
 UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they sell
 Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before 6 
 PM
 when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them until
 this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt anybody.
 
 Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
 Apple's "It just works" definitely applies here.
 I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my new
 Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know AT&T and
 T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a CDMA
 carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain how
 your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that different
 as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon 
 website.
 
 After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a new
 phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it 
 had
 power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
 After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point on.
 Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the 
 phone
 in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
 I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I pressed
 the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
 I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country and
 so on.
 The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi right
 there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can enable
 iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
 The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
 right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing since
 touch typing is not enabled by default.
 It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup process.
 You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new phone
 or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
 restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.
 
 Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a 
 newer
 version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the iOS
 7.02 update.
 
 While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
 website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few days
 ago.
 I use Koodo here in Canada which is a MVNO owned by Telus.
 I clicked on "Mobile Phones" and then on "Change Phone".
 From here I had 2 radio buttons to choose from, one was "Upgrade my Phone"
 and one was "New SIM Card in my current phone". I chose the first, clicked
 next and was now asked to enter the SIM Card Number. I had already written
 that down so I just copied it and pasted it, clicked next, confirmed one
 more time and it was done.
 
 At that point the update was also done and when my phone came back on
 Voiceover was talking and my new SIM worked.
 I now first went into Voiceover settings and downloaded the Enhanced 
 Quality
 voice for US English, then the Australien one and then I added German and
 downloaded the

Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[Candy Lowe]

Tracy, Verizon does not use a Sim card. You don't have to worry about that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, thanks for the replies.
> 
> Lol, first of all, I'm soo glad to hear about the speaker issue not 
> existing in the 5s.  It is driving me nuts in my 4s.
> 
> Verizon may have sim cards now, because of the 4g/lte.  I saw it mentioned in 
> my shipping details.  Hopefully, it is pre-installed.
> 
> The instructions I found on the web say I need to call a number to activate 
> 4g/lte on my account.
> 
> We'll see, I'm sure it'll all be easy once started.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Traci
>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tracy,
>> 
>> My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that the
>> UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they sell
>> Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before 6 PM
>> when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them until
>> this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt anybody.
>> 
>> Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
>> Apple's "It just works" definitely applies here.
>> I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my new
>> Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know AT&T and
>> T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a CDMA
>> carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain how
>> your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that different
>> as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon website.
>> 
>> After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a new
>> phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it had
>> power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
>> After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point on.
>> Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the phone
>> in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
>> I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I pressed
>> the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
>> I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country and
>> so on.
>> The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi right
>> there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can enable
>> iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
>> The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
>> right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing since
>> touch typing is not enabled by default.
>> It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup process.
>> You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new phone
>> or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
>> restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.
>> 
>> Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a newer
>> version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the iOS
>> 7.02 update.
>> 
>> While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
>> website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few days
>> ago.
>> I use Koodo here in Canada which is a MVNO owned by Telus.
>> I clicked on "Mobile Phones" and then on "Change Phone".
>> From here I had 2 radio buttons to choose from, one was "Upgrade my Phone"
>> and one was "New SIM Card in my current phone". I chose the first, clicked
>> next and was now asked to enter the SIM Card Number. I had already written
>> that down so I just copied it and pasted it, clicked next, confirmed one
>> more time and it was done.
>> 
>> At that point the update was also done and when my phone came back on
>> Voiceover was talking and my new SIM worked.
>> I now first went into Voiceover settings and downloaded the Enhanced Quality
>> voice for US English, then the Australien one and then I added German and
>> downloaded the high quality german voice.
>> Now after I send this I will restore from my encrypted iTunes backup. At
>> first I thought I start over, but I already had gotten rid of as many apps
>> as I could by uninstalling those I don't use a lot. I also unsynced all my
>> music and photos because I wanted a smaller backup and quicker restore
>> process. This way I get back the important apps, my email accounts will be
>> restored as will be my Favorites in the Phone app and my text messages.
>> I use Office 365 which is hosted Exchange from Microsoft for my business
>> email and Outlook.com for my personal accounts so as soon as these accounts
>> will be restored all my email and contacts will sync to my phone again and
>> there is nothing I will have to do here to get all of that back.
>> 
>> OK, good luck with your 5S, it's

Re: apple forcing updates yet again

[Rory Smith]

no option to cancel.

Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Babe



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Re: wifi and cell

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

If you're seeing 3g in the status bar where you would usually see the
signal strength of your WIFI connection, you are not actually
connected to WIFI. I agree with others who have mentioned that iOS
won't switch over to 3g if your wireless is problematic, but in every
situation where I've scene this, I've still been given the signal
strength of said wifi network as opposed to 3G.
How long are you waiting for SIRI to respond? Things are always going
to be a bit slower over 3g as a recording of your voice needs to be
sent to Apple for processing.

Cheers,
Ben.


On 10/16/13, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
>
>
>
> reggie and AllegraOK, if I can't use wifi due to the problematic network, I
> will try turning off wifi. When I get home and turn wifi back on, I will not
> have problems, right?
>
> On Oct 16, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>
> Cellular only kicks in when wifi is not present, but if your phone is seeing
> networks it cannot use, you will have problems. Just disable wifi completely
> and see if things work better. You could also try a network settings reset;
> that will erase all bluetooth and wifi pairings/networks and passwords, but
> it might clear up your wifi problem.
>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Regina Alvarado 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Need a techie. I am running 7.02. I am with Sprint, am on wifi and have
>> unlimited data, texts and well whatever else besides calling where I have
>> 450 minutes. I am fine when in my house or outside, but since about 2
>> weeks ago I can connect to nothing that I would normally be able to
>> connect to on wifi at my exercise room. Wifi is on, but even if I was not
>> able to use wifi there, which I can but cannot seem to access, would not
>> my iPhone connect via cellular if it could not via wifi? Doesn't cellular
>> kick in when there is no wifi? Thanks for any help you can give me. I
>> cannot even ask Siri to start my timer.
>>
>>
>>
>> reggie and Allegra
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Re: wifi and cell

[Regina Alvarado]

reggie and AllegraOK, if I can't use wifi due to the problematic network, I 
will try turning off wifi. When I get home and turn wifi back on, I will not 
have problems, right? 

On Oct 16, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Cellular only kicks in when wifi is not present, but if your phone is seeing 
networks it cannot use, you will have problems. Just disable wifi completely 
and see if things work better. You could also try a network settings reset; 
that will erase all bluetooth and wifi pairings/networks and passwords, but it 
might clear up your wifi problem.
> On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Regina Alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> Need a techie. I am running 7.02. I am with Sprint, am on wifi and have 
> unlimited data, texts and well whatever else besides calling where I have 450 
> minutes. I am fine when in my house or outside, but since about 2 weeks ago I 
> can connect to nothing that I would normally be able to connect to on wifi at 
> my exercise room. Wifi is on, but even if I was not able to use wifi there, 
> which I can but cannot seem to access, would not my iPhone connect via 
> cellular if it could not via wifi? Doesn't cellular kick in when there is no 
> wifi? Thanks for any help you can give me. I cannot even ask Siri to start my 
> timer.
> 
> 
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Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[Troy Sullivan]

Same here, I did not install anything, it could of been in there this whole 
time and I didn't even know it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Les Kriegler" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users


Tracy, I am a Verizon customer and I can assure you that I did not install 
any Sim cards into my phone. If it's there, I don't even know about it.


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hi all, thanks for the replies.

Lol, first of all, I'm soo glad to hear about the speaker issue 
not existing in the 5s.  It is driving me nuts in my 4s.


Verizon may have sim cards now, because of the 4g/lte.  I saw it 
mentioned in my shipping details.  Hopefully, it is pre-installed.


The instructions I found on the web say I need to call a number to 
activate 4g/lte on my account.


We'll see, I'm sure it'll all be easy once started.

Thanks again,
Traci

On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Tracy,

My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that 
the
UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they 
sell
Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before 
6 PM

when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them until
this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt 
anybody.


Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
Apple's "It just works" definitely applies here.
I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my 
new

Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know AT&T and
T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a 
CDMA
carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain 
how
your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that 
different
as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon 
website.


After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a 
new
phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it 
had

power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point 
on.
Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the 
phone

in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I 
pressed

the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country 
and

so on.
The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi right
there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can 
enable

iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing 
since

touch typing is not enabled by default.
It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup 
process.
You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new 
phone

or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.

Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a 
newer
version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the 
iOS

7.02 update.

While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few 
days

ago.
I use Koodo here in Canada which is a MVNO owned by Telus.
I clicked on "Mobile Phones" and then on "Change Phone".
From here I had 2 radio buttons to choose from, one was "Upgrade my 
Phone"
and one was "New SIM Card in my current phone". I chose the first, 
clicked
next and was now asked to enter the SIM Card Number. I had already 
written

that down so I just copied it and pasted it, clicked next, confirmed one
more time and it was done.

At that point the update was also done and when my phone came back on
Voiceover was talking and my new SIM worked.
I now first went into Voiceover settings and downloaded the Enhanced 
Quality
voice for US English, then the Australien one and then I added German 
and

downloaded the high quality german voice.
Now after I send this I will restore from my encrypted iTunes backup. At
first I thought I start over, but I already had gotten rid of as many 
apps
as I could by uninstalling those I don't use a lot. I also unsynced all 
my

music and photos because I wanted a smaller backup and quicker restore
process. This way I get back the important apps, my email accounts will 
be

restored as will be my Favorites in the Phone app and my text messages.
I use Office 365 which is hosted Exchange from Microsoft for my business
email and Outlook.com for my personal accounts so as soon as these 
accounts
will be restored all my email and contacts

Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[Troy Sullivan]

Unfortunetly I have to wait until 2015 to upgrade, who knows they will 
probably have the 6 out by then. I did find while a bit annoying, but a 
resonable solution that I can deal with for the 4s speaker problem, I 
learned this from an apple vis user, as soon as you answer the phone before 
saying hello, put the phone up to your ear, then take it away, then put it 
to your ear again and say hello, you should be fine, this so far has worked 
100 percent of the time for me, of course unless I forget to do it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users



Hi Tracy,

It probably is preinstalled. Just in case, if it is not, here is how it 
goes

in:

Take the little wire tool and feel along the right side of the phone
(opposite from the volume buttons).
You will feel the SIM tray and beneath it is a tiny hole. Put the wire 
tool

in it and push firmly, this will pop the SIM tray out.
Make sure you keep the touch screen facing you and that you don't turn the
SIM tray upside down, it is smooth on top and has a ridge underneath.
Your Nano SIM is tiny, but if you have good feeling in your fingers, you 
can

feel that one corner of the SIM card is cut off a bit.
The SIM Card goes into the tray with that corner facing out and up 
(towards

the top of the phone).
The SIM tray should slide in easily and the last little bit requires a
slight push to lock it into place, if you put the SIM in the wrong way I
don't think it will go in.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

Hi all, thanks for the replies.

Lol, first of all, I'm soo glad to hear about the speaker issue 
not

existing in the 5s.  It is driving me nuts in my 4s.

Verizon may have sim cards now, because of the 4g/lte.  I saw it mentioned
in my shipping details.  Hopefully, it is pre-installed.

The instructions I found on the web say I need to call a number to 
activate

4g/lte on my account.

We'll see, I'm sure it'll all be easy once started.

Thanks again,
Traci
On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Tracy,

My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that the
UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they 
sell

Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before 6

PM

when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them until
this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt

anybody.


Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
Apple's "It just works" definitely applies here.
I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my new
Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know AT&T and
T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a 
CDMA

carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain

how

your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that

different

as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon

website.


After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a 
new

phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it

had

power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point on.
Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the

phone

in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I 
pressed

the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country

and

so on.
The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi right
there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can 
enable

iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing 
since

touch typing is not enabled by default.
It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup 
process.
You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new 
phone

or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.

Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a

newer

version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the iOS
7.02 update.

While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few

days

ago.
I use Koodo here in Canada which is a MVNO owned by Telus.
I clicked on "Mobile P

Re: wifi and cell

[Regina Alvarado]

Ah: I knew someone would come through. Saw 3 g on the status bar so obviously 
the problem. Now, am I stuck? I am told to login to Brighthouse. I have an 
account for my wifi, but I am not on the site as it is not all that accessible. 
I am told all I have to do is login. What does that have to do with the wifi 
from Brighthouse that is for the clubhouse and exercise room in the community? 
Should I call Brighthouse?


reggie and Allegra

On Oct 16, 2013, at 5:04 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

Mobile kicks in unless there is no 3g signal, or mobile data is switched off in 
settings.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Oct 2013, at 9:22, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> Need a techie. I am running 7.02. I am with Sprint, am on wifi and have 
> unlimited data, texts and well whatever else besides calling where I have 450 
> minutes. I am fine when in my house or outside, but since about 2 weeks ago I 
> can connect to nothing that I would normally be able to connect to on wifi at 
> my exercise room. Wifi is on, but even if I was not able to use wifi there, 
> which I can but cannot seem to access, would not my iPhone connect via 
> cellular if it could not via wifi? Doesn't cellular kick in when there is no 
> wifi? Thanks for any help you can give me. I cannot even ask Siri to start my 
> timer.
> 
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
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App Store not seeing U.S. or USA

[Brian Albriton]

I was trying to help a gentleman create an apple ID here in Los
Angeles California he was prompted to pick the store in a picker item.
The stores started with Algeria and listed multiple countries but in
the letter u we did not find the United States of America or USA. At
one point the choices started speaking in other languages.
I’m not sure what to do to get his phone to see the U.S. store.
It’s a puzzler.
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latest IOs 7 update ??

[Crystal French]

Hi,
I’m finally getting accustomed to the 5s.
I have to say I am impressed with it.
I have not installed the latest iOs 7 update yet.
I think there were some bugs, such as the alphabet disappearing from the phone 
keypad, but I can’t recall if there was anything else significant that bothered 
users with it.
I am happy that I did make the move from the 4 to the 5s.
Thanks,
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RE: wifi and cell

[Grant Hardy]

Sometimes, mobile doesn't kick in if you're connected to a problematic WIFI
network.

Grant

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Of David Chittenden
Sent: October 16, 2013 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: wifi and cell

Mobile kicks in unless there is no 3g signal, or mobile data is switched off
in settings.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Oct 2013, at 9:22, Regina Alvarado 
wrote:
> 
> Need a techie. I am running 7.02. I am with Sprint, am on wifi and have
unlimited data, texts and well whatever else besides calling where I have
450 minutes. I am fine when in my house or outside, but since about 2 weeks
ago I can connect to nothing that I would normally be able to connect to on
wifi at my exercise room. Wifi is on, but even if I was not able to use wifi
there, which I can but cannot seem to access, would not my iPhone connect
via cellular if it could not via wifi? Doesn't cellular kick in when there
is no wifi? Thanks for any help you can give me. I cannot even ask Siri to
start my timer.
> 
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
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Re: wifi and cell

[David Chittenden]

Mobile kicks in unless there is no 3g signal, or mobile data is switched off in 
settings.

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Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Oct 2013, at 9:22, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> Need a techie. I am running 7.02. I am with Sprint, am on wifi and have 
> unlimited data, texts and well whatever else besides calling where I have 450 
> minutes. I am fine when in my house or outside, but since about 2 weeks ago I 
> can connect to nothing that I would normally be able to connect to on wifi at 
> my exercise room. Wifi is on, but even if I was not able to use wifi there, 
> which I can but cannot seem to access, would not my iPhone connect via 
> cellular if it could not via wifi? Doesn't cellular kick in when there is no 
> wifi? Thanks for any help you can give me. I cannot even ask Siri to start my 
> timer.
> 
> 
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Re: reading kindle books

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Hi Teresa,

I think I got the command mixed up with going back to a previous page. thanks 
for making the correction. 

Eileen
On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> If you have the two rocker bars on the front of the display, you should be 
> able to use the right one. Press this down to advance a horizontal page. This 
> also works in iBooks. Also, as an alternative, you can use dots 1-3-5-space 
> to advance a page. You should be inside the text when you perform these 
> commands.
> 
> HtH,
> teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, I am reading my first Kindle book in the app.  But I am afraid I  have 
>> made an error in turning the page turn animator off, but now I can't find 
>> settings in the app.  I just thought it would be a visual thing and I 
>> wouldn't need it turned on.
>> Even so, I am using an older  focus 40 Braille display and can't seem to 
>> turn pages with this app in the way I do it in Ibooks.
>> So how do I turn pages, and do I need to change that setting to on, and how 
>> can I go back to settings?  It doesn't appear now that the book has been 
>> opened.
>> It's not showing up in Menus.
>> Any ideas, I'm probably missing the obvious but I do that sometimes, sigh.
>> Thanks,
>> Patti
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RE: wifi and cell

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iOS falls back to cellular data automatically when you are not connected to
a WIFI network, but if you're connected to a problematic network this may
not happen. I'd start by unplugging your wireless router and plugging it
back in. What does settings>WIFI show in terms of the signal strength for
your wireless network? Can other devices successfully access your wireless
network? If they can't, then the problem lies with your wireless network and
you should consider resetting your router or changing settings on it or
replacing the router. If they can, try resetting network settings on your
iPhone via settings>general>reset>reset network settings. Then try
reconnecting to the network.

Grant

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Of Regina Alvarado
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Subject: wifi and cell

Need a techie. I am running 7.02. I am with Sprint, am on wifi and have
unlimited data, texts and well whatever else besides calling where I have
450 minutes. I am fine when in my house or outside, but since about 2 weeks
ago I can connect to nothing that I would normally be able to connect to on
wifi at my exercise room. Wifi is on, but even if I was not able to use wifi
there, which I can but cannot seem to access, would not my iPhone connect
via cellular if it could not via wifi? Doesn't cellular kick in when there
is no wifi? Thanks for any help you can give me. I cannot even ask Siri to
start my timer.



reggie and Allegra

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Re: Reading Kindle Books

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Hi Patty, 

I too am running iOS 6.1.2 on an iPone 4. On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Patti 
Johnson  wrote:

> thank you Theresa and Ileen, sorry for misspelling; I appreciate these tips, 
> will see how they work out for me.
> So, I can test the issues you are having on my end if you like. I am in the 
> process of training a client with it and find it hit and miss with the 
> accessibility. There is a podcast in Applevis produced by David Woodridge 
> that you may want to check out. Hence, it doesn't give the find points in 
> using a braille display with the app. It's quite good to get one started.

Eileen 
> I forgot to say I have a 4S and am using IOS 6 whatever it is, grin.
> Probably shouldn't make any difference though, I'd think.
> Patti
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Re: wifi and cell

[Alex Hall]

Cellular only kicks in when wifi is not present, but if your phone is seeing 
networks it cannot use, you will have problems. Just disable wifi completely 
and see if things work better. You could also try a network settings reset; 
that will erase all bluetooth and wifi pairings/networks and passwords, but it 
might clear up your wifi problem.
On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:

> Need a techie. I am running 7.02. I am with Sprint, am on wifi and have 
> unlimited data, texts and well whatever else besides calling where I have 450 
> minutes. I am fine when in my house or outside, but since about 2 weeks ago I 
> can connect to nothing that I would normally be able to connect to on wifi at 
> my exercise room. Wifi is on, but even if I was not able to use wifi there, 
> which I can but cannot seem to access, would not my iPhone connect via 
> cellular if it could not via wifi? Doesn't cellular kick in when there is no 
> wifi? Thanks for any help you can give me. I cannot even ask Siri to start my 
> timer.
> 
> 
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RE: apple forcing updates yet again

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ng her with her
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>>> was "ok".  There appears to be no way to get out of that screen.  We
>>> tried re-setting the phone by holding down the lock and home button
>>> for 10 seconds and just turning the phone off and back on again.
>>> There still seemed to be no way to get out of the update prompt.
>>> Going into the app switcher still didn't work.  Anyone have any
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>>>
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>>> God bless!
>>>
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wifi and cell

[Regina Alvarado]

Need a techie. I am running 7.02. I am with Sprint, am on wifi and have 
unlimited data, texts and well whatever else besides calling where I have 450 
minutes. I am fine when in my house or outside, but since about 2 weeks ago I 
can connect to nothing that I would normally be able to connect to on wifi at 
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which I can but cannot seem to access, would not my iPhone connect via cellular 
if it could not via wifi? Doesn't cellular kick in when there is no wifi? 
Thanks for any help you can give me. I cannot even ask Siri to start my timer.



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RE: apple forcing updates yet again

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pdate prompt.
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can't connect to ITunes store via pc

[Troy Sullivan]

I'm trying to connect to the ITunes store on my computer and It seems to be 
timing out with unable to connect to the ITunes store, please check your 
network connection an unknown error has occured ok button. I don't have any 
firewalls besides the windows firewall, I disabled it with the same result. I 
rebooted my pc and ITunes still won't connect. I know it's not the store itself 
because I can get to it on my phone just fine but I need to access the store on 
my pc and unable to do so. Any ideas? I know it's not my network because I can 
get to other sites just fine.

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RE: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Tracy,

It probably is preinstalled. Just in case, if it is not, here is how it goes
in:

Take the little wire tool and feel along the right side of the phone
(opposite from the volume buttons).
You will feel the SIM tray and beneath it is a tiny hole. Put the wire tool
in it and push firmly, this will pop the SIM tray out.
Make sure you keep the touch screen facing you and that you don't turn the
SIM tray upside down, it is smooth on top and has a ridge underneath.
Your Nano SIM is tiny, but if you have good feeling in your fingers, you can
feel that one corner of the SIM card is cut off a bit.
The SIM Card goes into the tray with that corner facing out and up (towards
the top of the phone).
The SIM tray should slide in easily and the last little bit requires a
slight push to lock it into place, if you put the SIM in the wrong way I
don't think it will go in.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

Hi all, thanks for the replies.

Lol, first of all, I'm soo glad to hear about the speaker issue not
existing in the 5s.  It is driving me nuts in my 4s.

Verizon may have sim cards now, because of the 4g/lte.  I saw it mentioned
in my shipping details.  Hopefully, it is pre-installed.

The instructions I found on the web say I need to call a number to activate
4g/lte on my account.

We'll see, I'm sure it'll all be easy once started.

Thanks again,
Traci
On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Tracy,
> 
> My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that the
> UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they sell
> Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before 6
PM
> when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them until
> this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt
anybody.
> 
> Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
> Apple's "It just works" definitely applies here.
> I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my new
> Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know AT&T and
> T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a CDMA
> carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain
how
> your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that
different
> as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon
website.
> 
> After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a new
> phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it
had
> power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
> After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point on.
> Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the
phone
> in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
> I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I pressed
> the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
> I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country
and
> so on.
> The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi right
> there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can enable
> iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
> The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
> right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing since
> touch typing is not enabled by default.
> It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup process.
> You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new phone
> or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
> restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.
> 
> Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a
newer
> version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the iOS
> 7.02 update.
> 
> While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
> website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few
days
> ago.
> I use Koodo here in Canada which is a MVNO owned by Telus.
> I clicked on "Mobile Phones" and then on "Change Phone".
> From here I had 2 radio buttons to choose from, one was "Upgrade my Phone"
> and one was "New SIM Card in my current phone". I chose the first, clicked
> next and was now asked to enter the SIM Card Number. I had already written
> that down so I just copied it and pasted it, clicked next, confirmed one
> more time and it was done.
> 
> At that point the update was also done and when my phone came back on
> Voiceover was talking and my new SIM worked.
> I now first went into Voiceover settings and downloaded the Enhanced
Quality
> voice for US English, then the Australien

Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[Les Kriegler]

Tracy, I am a Verizon customer and I can assure you that I did not install any 
Sim cards into my phone. If it's there, I don't even know about it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, thanks for the replies.
> 
> Lol, first of all, I'm soo glad to hear about the speaker issue not 
> existing in the 5s.  It is driving me nuts in my 4s.
> 
> Verizon may have sim cards now, because of the 4g/lte.  I saw it mentioned in 
> my shipping details.  Hopefully, it is pre-installed.
> 
> The instructions I found on the web say I need to call a number to activate 
> 4g/lte on my account.
> 
> We'll see, I'm sure it'll all be easy once started.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Traci
>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tracy,
>> 
>> My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that the
>> UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they sell
>> Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before 6 PM
>> when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them until
>> this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt anybody.
>> 
>> Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
>> Apple's "It just works" definitely applies here.
>> I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my new
>> Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know AT&T and
>> T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a CDMA
>> carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain how
>> your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that different
>> as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon website.
>> 
>> After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a new
>> phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it had
>> power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
>> After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point on.
>> Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the phone
>> in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
>> I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I pressed
>> the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
>> I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country and
>> so on.
>> The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi right
>> there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can enable
>> iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
>> The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
>> right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing since
>> touch typing is not enabled by default.
>> It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup process.
>> You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new phone
>> or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
>> restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.
>> 
>> Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a newer
>> version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the iOS
>> 7.02 update.
>> 
>> While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
>> website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few days
>> ago.
>> I use Koodo here in Canada which is a MVNO owned by Telus.
>> I clicked on "Mobile Phones" and then on "Change Phone".
>> From here I had 2 radio buttons to choose from, one was "Upgrade my Phone"
>> and one was "New SIM Card in my current phone". I chose the first, clicked
>> next and was now asked to enter the SIM Card Number. I had already written
>> that down so I just copied it and pasted it, clicked next, confirmed one
>> more time and it was done.
>> 
>> At that point the update was also done and when my phone came back on
>> Voiceover was talking and my new SIM worked.
>> I now first went into Voiceover settings and downloaded the Enhanced Quality
>> voice for US English, then the Australien one and then I added German and
>> downloaded the high quality german voice.
>> Now after I send this I will restore from my encrypted iTunes backup. At
>> first I thought I start over, but I already had gotten rid of as many apps
>> as I could by uninstalling those I don't use a lot. I also unsynced all my
>> music and photos because I wanted a smaller backup and quicker restore
>> process. This way I get back the important apps, my email accounts will be
>> restored as will be my Favorites in the Phone app and my text messages.
>> I use Office 365 which is hosted Exchange from Microsoft for my business
>> email and Outlook.com for my personal accounts so as soon as these accounts
>> will be restored all my email and contacts will sync to my phone again and
>> there is nothing I will have to 

Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, thanks for the replies.

Lol, first of all, I'm soo glad to hear about the speaker issue not 
existing in the 5s.  It is driving me nuts in my 4s.

Verizon may have sim cards now, because of the 4g/lte.  I saw it mentioned in 
my shipping details.  Hopefully, it is pre-installed.

The instructions I found on the web say I need to call a number to activate 
4g/lte on my account.

We'll see, I'm sure it'll all be easy once started.

Thanks again,
Traci
On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Tracy,
> 
> My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that the
> UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they sell
> Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before 6 PM
> when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them until
> this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt anybody.
> 
> Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
> Apple's "It just works" definitely applies here.
> I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my new
> Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know AT&T and
> T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a CDMA
> carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain how
> your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that different
> as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon website.
> 
> After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a new
> phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it had
> power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
> After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point on.
> Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the phone
> in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
> I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I pressed
> the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
> I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country and
> so on.
> The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi right
> there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can enable
> iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
> The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
> right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing since
> touch typing is not enabled by default.
> It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup process.
> You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new phone
> or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
> restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.
> 
> Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a newer
> version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the iOS
> 7.02 update.
> 
> While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
> website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few days
> ago.
> I use Koodo here in Canada which is a MVNO owned by Telus.
> I clicked on "Mobile Phones" and then on "Change Phone".
> From here I had 2 radio buttons to choose from, one was "Upgrade my Phone"
> and one was "New SIM Card in my current phone". I chose the first, clicked
> next and was now asked to enter the SIM Card Number. I had already written
> that down so I just copied it and pasted it, clicked next, confirmed one
> more time and it was done.
> 
> At that point the update was also done and when my phone came back on
> Voiceover was talking and my new SIM worked.
> I now first went into Voiceover settings and downloaded the Enhanced Quality
> voice for US English, then the Australien one and then I added German and
> downloaded the high quality german voice.
> Now after I send this I will restore from my encrypted iTunes backup. At
> first I thought I start over, but I already had gotten rid of as many apps
> as I could by uninstalling those I don't use a lot. I also unsynced all my
> music and photos because I wanted a smaller backup and quicker restore
> process. This way I get back the important apps, my email accounts will be
> restored as will be my Favorites in the Phone app and my text messages.
> I use Office 365 which is hosted Exchange from Microsoft for my business
> email and Outlook.com for my personal accounts so as soon as these accounts
> will be restored all my email and contacts will sync to my phone again and
> there is nothing I will have to do here to get all of that back.
> 
> OK, good luck with your 5S, it's unbelieveable fast and everything seems to
> happen instantly. 
> 
> Oh, you are also asked to set up Touch ID during the initial setup. You can
> choose to do so later, but I did it and I used my right thumb. It asked me
> about 10 or maybe more to put my t

RE: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Tracy,

My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that the
UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they sell
Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before 6 PM
when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them until
this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt anybody.

Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
Apple's "It just works" definitely applies here.
I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my new
Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know AT&T and
T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a CDMA
carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain how
your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that different
as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon website.

After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a new
phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it had
power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point on.
Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the phone
in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I pressed
the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country and
so on.
The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi right
there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can enable
iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing since
touch typing is not enabled by default.
It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup process.
You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new phone
or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.

Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a newer
version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the iOS
7.02 update.

While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few days
ago.
I use Koodo here in Canada which is a MVNO owned by Telus.
I clicked on "Mobile Phones" and then on "Change Phone".
>From here I had 2 radio buttons to choose from, one was "Upgrade my Phone"
and one was "New SIM Card in my current phone". I chose the first, clicked
next and was now asked to enter the SIM Card Number. I had already written
that down so I just copied it and pasted it, clicked next, confirmed one
more time and it was done.

At that point the update was also done and when my phone came back on
Voiceover was talking and my new SIM worked.
I now first went into Voiceover settings and downloaded the Enhanced Quality
voice for US English, then the Australien one and then I added German and
downloaded the high quality german voice.
Now after I send this I will restore from my encrypted iTunes backup. At
first I thought I start over, but I already had gotten rid of as many apps
as I could by uninstalling those I don't use a lot. I also unsynced all my
music and photos because I wanted a smaller backup and quicker restore
process. This way I get back the important apps, my email accounts will be
restored as will be my Favorites in the Phone app and my text messages.
I use Office 365 which is hosted Exchange from Microsoft for my business
email and Outlook.com for my personal accounts so as soon as these accounts
will be restored all my email and contacts will sync to my phone again and
there is nothing I will have to do here to get all of that back.

OK, good luck with your 5S, it's unbelieveable fast and everything seems to
happen instantly. 

Oh, you are also asked to set up Touch ID during the initial setup. You can
choose to do so later, but I did it and I used my right thumb. It asked me
about 10 or maybe more to put my thumb on the sensor, it's a good idea to
rotate it slightly and put different areas, just the tip, a bit further back
etc. It will tell you when it took enough readings and that too seems to
work extremely well and it's super fast.

Lastly, I just received a call and I picked it up with a 2-finger double
tap. I put the phone to my ear and to my delight I had no issues like I did
on my 4S with the call going to speakerphone or switching back and forth. So
far I couldn't be more pleased with this phone.


Regards,
Sieghar

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Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 201

Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[John Diakogeorgiou]

My sim card has always been in the phone. Just contact Verizon and ask
them to do the transfer for you.

On 10/16/13, Chris H  wrote:
> Traci when i receive my 4s as an upgrade from the 4 the sim card came in
> the box but not preinstalled and not activated either. i was able to set
> it up no problem though and could connect to my wifi network, but had no
> service until i told my carrier o2 uk to quote swap unquote my sim card
> online after this i was up in a matter of hours.
>
> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
> christopher...@gmail.com
>
> On 16/10/2013 17:16, Traci Duncan wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm excited to announce my iPhone 5s should be arriving today.  This is my
>> first 4g/lte device.
>>
>> Does the sym card come already installed?
>> Was the set up process fairly straight forward?
>> I read the directions found here:
>> http://businessportals.verizonwireless.com/support/how_to_use/iphone-5-upgrade.html
>> and they look pretty easy.
>>
>> Any tips to go along with those instructions?
>>
>> :) This isn't my first set up, but like I said, my first 4g/lte device.
>> Fingers crossed, I'm mighty excited!  Off to back up my device and back up
>> my Mac for good measure.  ;)
>>
>> Traci
>>
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Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[Chris H]

Traci when i receive my 4s as an upgrade from the 4 the sim card came in 
the box but not preinstalled and not activated either. i was able to set 
it up no problem though and could connect to my wifi network, but had no 
service until i told my carrier o2 uk to quote swap unquote my sim card 
online after this i was up in a matter of hours.


E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 16/10/2013 17:16, Traci Duncan wrote:

Hi all,

I'm excited to announce my iPhone 5s should be arriving today.  This is my 
first 4g/lte device.

Does the sym card come already installed?
Was the set up process fairly straight forward?
I read the directions found here:
http://businessportals.verizonwireless.com/support/how_to_use/iphone-5-upgrade.html
and they look pretty easy.

Any tips to go along with those instructions?

:) This isn't my first set up, but like I said, my first 4g/lte device.  
Fingers crossed, I'm mighty excited!  Off to back up my device and back up my 
Mac for good measure.  ;)

Traci



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Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all,

I'm excited to announce my iPhone 5s should be arriving today.  This is my 
first 4g/lte device.

Does the sym card come already installed?
Was the set up process fairly straight forward?
I read the directions found here:
http://businessportals.verizonwireless.com/support/how_to_use/iphone-5-upgrade.html
and they look pretty easy.

Any tips to go along with those instructions?

:) This isn't my first set up, but like I said, my first 4g/lte device.  
Fingers crossed, I'm mighty excited!  Off to back up my device and back up my 
Mac for good measure.  ;)

Traci

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Reading Kindle Books

[Patti Johnson]

thank you Theresa and Ileen, sorry for misspelling; I appreciate these 
tips, will see how they work out for me.

I forgot to say I have a 4S and am using IOS 6 whatever it is, grin.
Probably shouldn't make any difference though, I'd think.
Patti

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Re: reading kindle books

[Teresa Cochran]

If you have the two rocker bars on the front of the display, you should be able 
to use the right one. Press this down to advance a horizontal page. This also 
works in iBooks. Also, as an alternative, you can use dots 1-3-5-space to 
advance a page. You should be inside the text when you perform these commands.

HtH,
teresa

"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman

On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

> Hi, I am reading my first Kindle book in the app.  But I am afraid I  have 
> made an error in turning the page turn animator off, but now I can't find 
> settings in the app.  I just thought it would be a visual thing and I 
> wouldn't need it turned on.
> Even so, I am using an older  focus 40 Braille display and can't seem to turn 
> pages with this app in the way I do it in Ibooks.
> So how do I turn pages, and do I need to change that setting to on, and how 
> can I go back to settings?  It doesn't appear now that the book has been 
> opened.
> It's not showing up in Menus.
> Any ideas, I'm probably missing the obvious but I do that sometimes, sigh.
> Thanks,
> Patti
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Re: reading kindle books

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hi Patty,

If you see the Home button in the upper left hand corner, double tap on it. If 
not, open the Kindle menu with a single finger double tap and then find the 
Home button in the upper left hand corner. Once the home Kindle screen is 
opened, in the bottom doc the second tab from the lower left hand corner is the 
settings tab. Double tap on it. I checked my settings for automatic page 
turning and it is toggled off. I'm not sure if this applies to the Focus Blue, 
but with my Braille Note I need to perform a pass through gesture of pressing 
ddots 4-5-6 and enter together before using dots 2-4-6 with the space bar. What 
about using a 3 finger swipe from right to left to turn the page? HTH.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

> Hi, I am reading my first Kindle book in the app.  But I am afraid I  have 
> made an error in turning the page turn animator off, but now I can't find 
> settings in the app.  I just thought it would be a visual thing and I 
> wouldn't need it turned on.
> Even so, I am using an older  focus 40 Braille display and can't seem to turn 
> pages with this app in the way I do it in Ibooks.
> So how do I turn pages, and do I need to change that setting to on, and how 
> can I go back to settings?  It doesn't appear now that the book has been 
> opened.
> It's not showing up in Menus.
> Any ideas, I'm probably missing the obvious but I do that sometimes, sigh.
> Thanks,
> Patti
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Re: VO not holding focus.

[Aman Singer]

Hi, Sandy.
Allow me to second Chris' suggestion about the "reduce motion" setting
in accessibility. I don't know how much vision you have, but this is
strictly a visual effect and, besides somewhat reducing battery life,
I found just the same problems you did when "reduce motion" was off.
Once I turned it on, the problems seem to be either resolved or so
close to being resolved that I don't notice them. Note that this isn't
just a touch screen thing, as you note, the keyboards had the same
issue as do braille displays.
Secondly, as to batteries, besides Sieghard's suggestion about
applications, it may be worth giving an external battery a try. These
have grown much smaller and much cheaper over the past few years, and
you can triple your iPhone battery life for €30 or so if you don't
mind carrying a small device around.
HTH.
Aman

On 10/16/13, Sandratomkins  wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> A year ago, I had planned to sell my old iPhone 4 when I got my new 4s.
> However, because I use these devices as my computer. Reading books, doing
> crosswords, searching the net, email and all that stuff, I decided to hold
> on to the old phone to share out the battery power. I decided not to update
> the 4  to ios7, it has, of course, downloaded, but is sitting waiting for me
> to give the go ahead. Well, having started life as an ios7 fan, and I do
> still like many of the bells and whistles, I have to say that for many of my
> favourite activities, I am going back to my old 4. I mentioned, in the below
> message, that I can not longer do the Guardian Cryptic Crossword on my 4s
> with 7. Well, I just took a look on the 4 and what do you think, I can do
> the CW just as I always could. So, this is definitely a 7 bug for VO and it
> is, as far as I can judge, something that affects many applications and
> website functions.
>
> Finally, I have turned off all the relevant settings that will drain the
> battery on my 44s running 7, and still find that the battery drains at an
> alarming rate!
>
> pity 'tis true, but until these issues are addressed, I shall be using
> my old 4 for the forseeable future.
>
> Sandy.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 16 Oct 2013, at 10:58, Sandratomkins 
>> wrote:
>>
>> HI,
>>
>>I think there is a genuine problem, using ios7 on my iPhone 4s. For
>> example, one of my pleasures in life is to do the Cryptic Crossword in the
>> Gardian, most days: until now, I have been able to do this using the
>> online app that is used on the website of the paper together with vo.
>> However, this has become increasingly flaky. This morning, it seems, that
>> I cannot do it at all! I don't undrstand why this should have got worse,
>> but it does eem to have done so. I have performed a reset, the one with
>> the power and home buttons, but this hasn't fixed anything.
>>
>>Also, when sending a message, such as this one, I type vip into the
>> "to" field and am offered the address for this list, but once havingt
>> selected it, especially, when using my BT keyboard, I cannot move away
>> from that field, I have to touch the screen to get vo to focus anew and
>> then I can use the arrow keys or flick to find the edit field for the
>> subject line.
>>
>>I know that people have mentioned the problems with focusing, here on
>> this list before, I just wanted to say that I am still finding this, after
>> having played with the latest update since the first day it came out. I
>> wanted to give it time to see what was a bug and what was user error, and
>> I have to say that this is definitely not user error. Neither do I think
>> it a bug for non vo users,, so it is unlikely to be addressed by apple,
>> unless we make them aware of it. However, I am always loath to submit a
>> suspected bug before I have assured myself that others are also
>> experiencing the same thing. So, is anyone else have problems with vo
>> holding focus?
>>
>>TIA, Sandy.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Transferring BARD books to your phone [was "Re: Interesting dellema with the bard ap."]

[Traci Duncan]

Did you leave it as a zipped file?

I haven't tried .BRF; I transferred an audio book.  The instructions I read 
said to leave it zipped up.  The Bard app will unzip it.

HTH,
Traci
On Oct 16, 2013, at 6:07 AM, Marc Sutton  wrote:

> I have tried transferring a .brf file using Itunes. It did not show up in 
> BARD. Has anyone else had luck with this method? I ended up having success 
> with using Dropbox instead, but still wonder why the Itunes method seemed to 
> fail.
> Marc
> 
> On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> 
>> A bard audio book has several different parts. This will make it hard to
>> identify the proper book if it's not zipped.
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:13 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Transferring BARD books to your phone [was "Re: Interesting
>>> dellema with the bard ap."]
>>> 
>>> What happens if the file is no longer zipped? Can it still be transferred
>>> through Itunes or Dropbox?
>>> 
>>> Shannon
>>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Robert Hill  wrote:
>>> 
 I have had good luck using iTunes to transfer books.
 You're right, you might have to restart BARD to have it show the books.
 I haven't had any issues authorizing books to play.
 
 Bob Hill
 
 On Oct 13, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>> wrote:
 
> You can also use iTunes to transfer books to your phone. I haven't done
>> it
>>> myself yet, but a few different people have posted instructions to the
>> list.
>>> You may run into the same problem though, where you won't be able to
>>> authorize those books if your phone can't get to the authorization servers
>>> for the mobile app.
> 
> For example, Russ Kiehne posted these instructions to the list:
> 
> Doing some research, I found the following, hope it helps:
> Loading books into the BARDmobile app
> 
> The BARDmobile app is able to play any DAISY/NISO 2005 formatted
> book. To load the books into the iOS device for playback use the
>>> following instructions.
> 1. If not in a ZIP archive format. You should compress the directory
> holding the books files into a ZIP file.
> 2. Connect the iOS device to your computer with a USB cable.
> 3. Open the iTunes application and select the iOS device button at
> the right of the main window.
> 4. select the "Apps" radio button on the main screen.
> 5. At the bottom of the Apps screen is a section titled "File
> Sharing" with a column list of apps. One of those will be the
>> BARDmobile
>>> app select it.
> 6. Press the "Add." button located in the bottom right of the screen.
> This will give you a dialog to select the ZIP file from step one. The
> book will then be added to the app. You may need to restart BARDmobile
>>> to see the new book.
> NOTE:
> At this time the BARDmobile app will only play DAISY/NISO 2005 books.
> Other DAISY formats such as DAISY 2.02 and ePub 3 will simply fail to
>>> load.
> 
> 
> On 10/13/2013 06:24 AM, Thom Spittle wrote:
>> If you have dropbox, you shold be able to transfer it to the phone.
>> Keep it as a zip file. Go to the file via dropbox. Once loaded, you
>> can export to bard mobile.
>> The only catch is authenticating the book with bard. If their system
>> is down, it may not authenticate it.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Thom
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Dawn Petty
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Interesting dellema with the bard ap.
>>> 
>>> I am also experiencing this.  I tried to add the book push by safire.
>> when I go
>>> to my wish list it says zero itims but if I go back to the book it
>>> gives
>> me a
>>> remove from wish list link.  I am able to download it on to my pc
>>> though.
>> is
>>> there any way to get it to the phone?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jenifer Barr
>>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:32 AM
>>> To: viphone
>>> Subject: Interesting dellema with the bard ap.
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> So, I added some books to my wishlist like I always do from the
>>> website on my computer.  Before when I'd do this I'd go to the ap
>>> on my phone, into
>> my
>>> wishlist and download them.  But, now, when I go into the ap,
>>> they're not there.  I know they've been added, but they're not
>>> there.  I've closed the
>> ap
>>> using the ap switcher...
>>> reopened it... but still nothing.  Any suggestions?
>>> Thanks in advance.
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RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Rose,

 

Using the headset will fix this, well, maybe I shouldn't say fix because
it's not a fix, but a work-around.

In an office environment where your iPhone maybe is on your desk or in your
purse it would be easy to just have the Apple headset plugged in and all you
have to do is grab the right side with the remote, put it in your ear and
press the answer button on the remote. I usually have my iPhone in my belt
clip and I just have the headset hanging around my neck.often have my iPhone
in the

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

I only wish they would fix the problem of it being on speaker when it is up
to the ear, I hate my office hearing my phone calls because I can't get the
silly phone to go to the earpiece.  Never had this problem before I upgraded
to IOS 7, have a 4S and am not in a hurry to upgrade.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

Hi Cait,

 

Just as a suggestion, did you check what the audio routing is set to in the
Accessibility settings?

Anyhow, I'd rather have it go and stay on the earpiece since I wish Apple
would take out this automatic switching to speakerphone. I see little reason
why a Voiceover user can't tap the Speakerphone button if the call should be
on Speakerphone just like any sighted person. I think overall this automatic
switching to speakerphone causes more issues than what it's worth.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cait and Maggie
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

I have a 5 C and love it.

 

the problems I've experienced have been some of those related to voiceover.
these are a different screen sensitivity since installing OS7.x(I get this
on my i pad 2, also), when a call comes in, the phone automatically goes to
earpiece/up to the ear mode, even if I'm holding it away from my face.

 

Other then the little software things, which I think will even out as time
goes on, the hardware seems nice.  The phone is light but not overly so.

hth,

Cait

 

On 2013-10-14, at 5:16 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

Hi Neil,

 

I don't see why she should have any issues with the 5C, it's basically a 5
in a plastic housing. Any reviews of both the 5C and 5S I read on sites like
Engaged, The Verge etc. have been very positive and if she doesn't use
Voiceover and you really want feedback from other sighted users I suggest
doing a Google search about "iPhone 5C complaints" or "iPhone 5C reviews".
You could also send a message to Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast and ask
if he could ask people in his audience who bought a 5C to call in with their
thoughts on the 5C. The email address is  
t...@gmail.com. I even suggest to listen to this weeks Today in iOS Podcast
which most likely should be out later this week since he has only done one
since the 5S and 5C release so there will most likelybe be people calling in
with their thoughts, reviews or concerns. He normally does the Podcast
weekly, but it's now been 2 weeks and since it's likely Apple sends out
their invites tomorrow for next weeks iPad event, I am sure he will have an
episode in a few days. I find Today in iOS to be a very informative Podcast
and well worth the listen once a week.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@  googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:26 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

Hi, Muy wife wanted to purchase a Verizon contract with the iPhone 5. She
was told they were no longer being sold. So, my question. Are there thos of
you who have the iPhone 5C and if so, have you encountered any problems yet.
I was a bit put off by Kara's message earlier, not by Kara, of course, but
by what the message had to say. My wife will not want to spend that much
money anyway, so she will settle for the 5C. But I thought I would see if
anyone who is using it has found any problems with it. She will not be using
VoiceOver.

 

Thanks much for your help.

 

Neal

 

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reading kindle books

[Patti Johnson]

Hi, I am reading my first Kindle book in the app.  But I am afraid I  
have made an error in turning the page turn animator off, but now I 
can't find settings in the app.  I just thought it would be a visual 
thing and I wouldn't need it turned on.
Even so, I am using an older  focus 40 Braille display and can't seem to 
turn pages with this app in the way I do it in Ibooks.
So how do I turn pages, and do I need to change that setting to on, and 
how can I go back to settings?  It doesn't appear now that the book has 
been opened.

It's not showing up in Menus.
Any ideas, I'm probably missing the obvious but I do that sometimes, sigh.
Thanks,
Patti

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Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

[Krister Ekstrom]

Can you please tell me what the english settings are? I suspect a translation 
error somewhere in the app and to make the developer aware of this i'll have to 
know what the english names for the settings are.
/Krister

16 okt 2013 kl. 11:35 skrev Sandratomkins :

> Try only streets once more. I think you might find it will work!
> Sandy.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 16 Oct 2013, at 10:03, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Don't know if i even have it and i don't know where to search for those 
>> settings, that's how dumb i am.
>> I have something called filter speech, and there are 6 settings: All, own 
>> streets, own places, own streets and places, own places and none. Yes, own 
>> places occur twice, don't ask me why.
>> I should also say that this is a rough translation from swedish. I do not 
>> know what those texts are originally.
>> I've tried "own streets" and it does nothing, only thing that seems to work 
>> is all and that reports pois, usually after me having passed them by far.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 16 okt 2013 kl. 10:45 skrev Sandratomkins :
>>> 
>>> hi,
>>> Have you changed the filter settings to streets only?
>>> This works for me.
>>> Sandy.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 16 Oct 2013, at 09:16, Krister Ekstrom  
 wrote:
 
 On the other hand i've seen cases where even big streets in a city aren't 
 covered by OSM, i really wish that Blindsquare could use google maps 
 instead of the sucky OSM. I haven't checked cities in simulation mode and 
 i doubt that i would understand if i did and besides, it looks as though 
 blindsquare sees streets and so on, it just doesn't announce them 
 automatically no matter what i do. I've more or less given up on 
 Blindsquare because either it's the app or more likely it's me who's too 
 stupid to use the app so have stopped using it.
 /Krister
 
> 15 okt 2013 kl. 21:18 skrev Ari Moisio :
> 
> Hi
> 
> Strange... do you live in a city or at countryside?  Heve you checked 
> some bigger city in the simulation mode to find out  if there are more 
> streeets and crossings. Could you check with the OpenStreetMap site if 
> there are mapped roads around your location.
> 
> OSM coverage  is quite good nowadays so i doubpt missing coverage might 
> be the problem.
> 
> 
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>> Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
>> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:49:49 +0200
>> From: Krister Ekstrom 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Hi,
>> I have actually tried to contact the developer but have yet to get 
>> answers on why blindsquare doesn't tell intersections or even street 
>> names. It tells me POis and adresses ok, but streets and intersections, 
>> no way jose.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 15 okt 2013 kl. 16:38 skrev Sieghard Weitzel :
>>> 
>>> Hi Krister,
>>> 
>>> Have you contacted the developer? Did they tell you it should work in
>>> Sweden? Anyhow, I thought Blindsquare uses Google Maps and Foresquare 
>>> so one
>>> would  assume that it should work if google Maps works.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Krister Ekstrom
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> If the developer is listening i have this to say: It would be fun to
>>> participate, however i can't since it appears that Blindsquare doesn't 
>>> work
>>> properly in Sweden. Either that or you know something i don't know that
>>> makes the whole thing work.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
 14 okt 2013 kl. 23:21 skrev Anne Günther :
 
 Hi
 I got the link in another Mailinglist, sounds interesting.
 http://blindsquare.com/challenge/
 Guenni
 
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RE: VO not holding focus.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sandy,

If the battery drain on your 4S is so great then you probably have an app
somewhere which causes that. Battery on my 4S is at least as good and
probably a bit better with iOS 7. Also, Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast
did a test with an iPhone 4 which he upgraded to iOS 7 and an iPhone 4S
which he hadn't upgraded. He charged both devices up to 100%, he removed all
apps from the app switcher and I can't remember if he said whether Bluetooth
was on, but in any case, both phones had the same things turned on and so
on. He then let the phones sit there locked and not really using them and he
found that after a few days the battery on the iPhone 4 with iOS 7 was still
above 70% and the 4S with iOS 6 was at I think 22%.

Spotting what causes battery drain can be tough, you almost have to do a
complete restore to factory settings and set up the phone as new, then
without putting anything on it in terms of apps see if the battery drain
problem has gone away. If it has, then put on one or 2 apps at a time and
each time make sure you use said apps and observe the battery. It's a long
process, but just about the only way to do this.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandratomkins
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO not holding focus.

Hi again,

A year ago, I had planned to sell my old iPhone 4 when I got my new 4s.
However, because I use these devices as my computer. Reading books, doing
crosswords, searching the net, email and all that stuff, I decided to hold
on to the old phone to share out the battery power. I decided not to update
the 4  to ios7, it has, of course, downloaded, but is sitting waiting for me
to give the go ahead. Well, having started life as an ios7 fan, and I do
still like many of the bells and whistles, I have to say that for many of my
favourite activities, I am going back to my old 4. I mentioned, in the below
message, that I can not longer do the Guardian Cryptic Crossword on my 4s
with 7. Well, I just took a look on the 4 and what do you think, I can do
the CW just as I always could. So, this is definitely a 7 bug for VO and it
is, as far as I can judge, something that affects many applications and
website functions.

Finally, I have turned off all the relevant settings that will drain the
battery on my 44s running 7, and still find that the battery drains at an
alarming rate!

pity 'tis true, but until these issues are addressed, I shall be using
my old 4 for the forseeable future.

Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Oct 2013, at 10:58, Sandratomkins 
wrote:
> 
> HI,
> 
>I think there is a genuine problem, using ios7 on my iPhone 4s. For
example, one of my pleasures in life is to do the Cryptic Crossword in the
Gardian, most days: until now, I have been able to do this using the online
app that is used on the website of the paper together with vo. However, this
has become increasingly flaky. This morning, it seems, that I cannot do it
at all! I don't undrstand why this should have got worse, but it does eem to
have done so. I have performed a reset, the one with the power and home
buttons, but this hasn't fixed anything.
> 
>Also, when sending a message, such as this one, I type vip into the
"to" field and am offered the address for this list, but once havingt
selected it, especially, when using my BT keyboard, I cannot move away from
that field, I have to touch the screen to get vo to focus anew and then I
can use the arrow keys or flick to find the edit field for the subject line.
> 
>I know that people have mentioned the problems with focusing, here on
this list before, I just wanted to say that I am still finding this, after
having played with the latest update since the first day it came out. I
wanted to give it time to see what was a bug and what was user error, and I
have to say that this is definitely not user error. Neither do I think it a
bug for non vo users,, so it is unlikely to be addressed by apple, unless we
make them aware of it. However, I am always loath to submit a suspected bug
before I have assured myself that others are also experiencing the same
thing. So, is anyone else have problems with vo holding focus?
> 
>TIA, Sandy. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - gizmodo.com

[Alan Paganelli]

I had a leveling app.  It was free except, I can't remember the name.  It did 
let you set the calibration.  You started out placing your iPhone even if it 
was in a case on a flat surface and double tapping the calibrate button.  Then 
you were prompted to place your iPhone on it's side with the up/down buttons on 
the top and again double tapping the calibrate button and then place your 
iPhone on standing up with the lock switch on the top right and double tapping 
the calibrate button.  The iPhone was then calibrated and gave  a containing 
tone to let you know it was level.  They make note of the fact that although 
the app could come very close it should only be used for things like leveling 
pictures and non creditable jobs.  It might even be in the apps in my apps 
folder.  If I find it, I'll post it's name.  As I recall, it was even free but 
I seem to think it was a part of a tools package.  The other apps weren't 
accessible.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Crystal French 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:23 PM
  Subject: Re: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - gizmodo.com


  Well, I was curious about my 5s, and tried it on several flat surfaces in my 
home.

  It always gave a reading of minus 1 degree.

  Which didn’t make me any smarter.  

  Crystal 


  From: John Diakogeorgiou 
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:37 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up - gizmodo.com

  Just out of curiousity I tried using the level with my wife's 5 and my
  5s which was received the Tuesday after they went on sale. Their is a
  difference of about 3 degrees between the two phones with hers showing
  0 and mine -3 which is about a/4 inch off the table. I tried it on a
  couple of different surfaces in case one wasn't flat and got the same
  results. I did not try the compass part because I don't think the
  difference is as important. Although I hope
  Apple some how fixes this I don't think it will have too much effect
  since I don't use the phone for woodworking.

  On 10/14/13, Grant Hardy  wrote:
  > Oh for sure, many navigation apps use the compass. I just meant that in my
  > experience usually navigation apps don't rely on it exclusively because
  > there's lots of information like your heading that can be derived from GPS.
  >
  > Please post tomorrow after you've taken your shiny new phone out of the box
  > and let us know whether your sensors seem to work properly. I agree with
  > you, everyone has at least one year of warranty (more if you buy Apple Care
  > Plus) so I don't think I'll sweat it too much at this point especially
  > considering that the majority of phones seem to exhibit this behaviour. Or
  > rather, the majority of people who have posted about this issue around the
  > internet can replicate it.
  >
  > Grant
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  > Of Sieghard Weitzel
  > Sent: October 14, 2013 3:17 PM
  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  > Subject: RE: The iPhone 5S Motion Sensors Are Totally Screwed Up -
  > gizmodo.com
  >
  > Hi Grant,
  >
  > Some apps do use the compass (Blindsquare is one) but I am not sure if the
  > variance described is enough to make a real difference. I am getting my 5S
  > tomorrow (HaHaHa, beat you) and I certainly appreciated Cara posting this
  > because at least one has a chance to specifically test for these issues. I
  > am a woodworker and I do build things and do my own
  > renovations/modifications to my home to a large degree, but it's not like
  > I'd ever use my iPhone as my authorative level, it's much to short to be
  > really precise. I have a dedicated audio level and even that is only 12
  > inches and there is a reason why framers use 4 foot long levels. I can see
  > how this might affect hard-core gamers which I am not and I suspect it will
  > be an academic problem for me, certainly not enough to scare me off like
  > Pablo who cancelled his order, but if I wasn't in a big hurry and my iPhone
  > wasn't due to arrive tomorrow I might consider that. Anyhow, I have 1 year
  > of warranty and I bought Apple Care so I am quite convinced that if I could
  > replicate this issue and it was quite serious I could get a replacement in
  > a
  > couple of month when Apple has made the appropriate modifications.
  >
  > On a general note, I think it must be a real 

Re: What 'sup with What'sapp?

[Chris H]

Not really Ray unless you have family and friends who do not use iOS 
devices. I use Whatsapp because I have friends who use Whatsapp on other 
platforms, like Android.


E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 16/10/2013 14:24, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:

fair point I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris H
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What 'sup with What'sapp?

The main advantage of Whatsapp is that it's cross platform. Meaning anyone with 
a Blackberry, a
Nokia phone, a Windows phone or even an Android phone can use Whatsapp. So no 
matter where the
conversation begins, it is not tied to iOS devices unlike iMessage.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 16/10/2013 10:34, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:

The clever among you willhave caught the play on words.  Now, what is
it and what does it do that apps which are native to the device do not?


Ray T. Mahorney
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RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

[Neal Ewers]

My wife got her 5C yesterday and I have been helping her set it up. The
speaker sounds nicer than the 5, it gets better battery life on some things,
and works like a charm. The back is a composite material that is very
slippery, so having a case for it is almost a must. It's a tiny bit heavier,
but you hardly notice. I even think the microphone call quality 

Is marginally better than the 5, which wouldn't be hard to do.

 

Thanks all for the help.

 

Neal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rose Combs
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

I only wish they would fix the problem of it being on speaker when it is up
to the ear, I hate my office hearing my phone calls because I can't get the
silly phone to go to the earpiece.  Never had this problem before I upgraded
to IOS 7, have a 4S and am not in a hurry to upgrade.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

Hi Cait,

 

Just as a suggestion, did you check what the audio routing is set to in the
Accessibility settings?

Anyhow, I'd rather have it go and stay on the earpiece since I wish Apple
would take out this automatic switching to speakerphone. I see little reason
why a Voiceover user can't tap the Speakerphone button if the call should be
on Speakerphone just like any sighted person. I think overall this automatic
switching to speakerphone causes more issues than what it's worth.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cait and Maggie
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

I have a 5 C and love it.

 

the problems I've experienced have been some of those related to voiceover.
these are a different screen sensitivity since installing OS7.x(I get this
on my i pad 2, also), when a call comes in, the phone automatically goes to
earpiece/up to the ear mode, even if I'm holding it away from my face.

 

Other then the little software things, which I think will even out as time
goes on, the hardware seems nice.  The phone is light but not overly so.

hth,

Cait

 

On 2013-10-14, at 5:16 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

Hi Neil,

 

I don't see why she should have any issues with the 5C, it's basically a 5
in a plastic housing. Any reviews of both the 5C and 5S I read on sites like
Engaged, The Verge etc. have been very positive and if she doesn't use
Voiceover and you really want feedback from other sighted users I suggest
doing a Google search about "iPhone 5C complaints" or "iPhone 5C reviews".
You could also send a message to Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast and ask
if he could ask people in his audience who bought a 5C to call in with their
thoughts on the 5C. The email address is  
t...@gmail.com. I even suggest to listen to this weeks Today in iOS Podcast
which most likely should be out later this week since he has only done one
since the 5S and 5C release so there will most likelybe be people calling in
with their thoughts, reviews or concerns. He normally does the Podcast
weekly, but it's now been 2 weeks and since it's likely Apple sends out
their invites tomorrow for next weeks iPad event, I am sure he will have an
episode in a few days. I find Today in iOS to be a very informative Podcast
and well worth the listen once a week.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@  googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:26 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

Hi, Muy wife wanted to purchase a Verizon contract with the iPhone 5. She
was told they were no longer being sold. So, my question. Are there thos of
you who have the iPhone 5C and if so, have you encountered any problems yet.
I was a bit put off by Kara's message earlier, not by Kara, of course, but
by what the message had to say. My wife will not want to spend that much
money anyway, so she will settle for the 5C. But I thought I would see if
anyone who is using it has found any problems with it. She will not be using
VoiceOver.

 

Thanks much for your help.

 

Neal

 

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RE: What 'sup with What'sapp?

[Ray T. Mahorney]

fair point I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris H
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:38
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What 'sup with What'sapp?

The main advantage of Whatsapp is that it's cross platform. Meaning anyone with 
a Blackberry, a
Nokia phone, a Windows phone or even an Android phone can use Whatsapp. So no 
matter where the
conversation begins, it is not tied to iOS devices unlike iMessage.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 16/10/2013 10:34, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:
> The clever among you willhave caught the play on words.  Now, what is 
> it and what does it do that apps which are native to the device do not?
>
>
> Ray T. Mahorney
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>
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Re: BARD: Autonatically Rereading A Previous Article In A Magazine

[Richard Ring]

Trouble is, right now, there is no NLS to report problems to.

You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Marc Sutton  wrote:

> I have xperienced this a few times as well.
> Marc
> 
> On Oct 13, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Alan Paganelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm not experiencing any problems with reading talking books with the bard 
>> mobile app.
>> ---
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>> 
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>> 
>> Please click on:
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Amy Ruell" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:33 AM
>> Subject: RE: BARD: Autonatically Rereading A Previous Article In A Magazine
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> We had a computer group meeting yesterday and several members of our group
>>> reported that in some books the audio would suddenly skip back unexpectedly
>>> by several hours.
>>> Would report this to NLS.
>>> Amy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Eileens Misrahi
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:53 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: BARD: Autonatically Rereading A Previous Article In A Magazine
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I was reading a magazine with BARD this morning and had a funny thing happen
>>> twice within the magazine. A previous article already read began to play
>>> again out of order. The only fix I could think of real quick was to pause
>>> the audio, and press the next button. Has anyone experience this while
>>> reading a book or magazine with the app?. I'm just curious to know if this
>>> is a bug that NLS should know about.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Transferring BARD books to your phone [was "Re: Interesting dellema with the bard ap."]

[Marc Sutton]

I have tried transferring a .brf file using Itunes. It did not show up in BARD. 
Has anyone else had luck with this method? I ended up having success with using 
Dropbox instead, but still wonder why the Itunes method seemed to fail.
Marc

On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Thom Spittle  wrote:

> A bard audio book has several different parts. This will make it hard to
> identify the proper book if it's not zipped.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Transferring BARD books to your phone [was "Re: Interesting
>> dellema with the bard ap."]
>> 
>> What happens if the file is no longer zipped? Can it still be transferred
>> through Itunes or Dropbox?
>> 
>> Shannon
>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Robert Hill  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have had good luck using iTunes to transfer books.
>>> You're right, you might have to restart BARD to have it show the books.
>>> I haven't had any issues authorizing books to play.
>>> 
>>> Bob Hill
>>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 You can also use iTunes to transfer books to your phone. I haven't done
> it
>> myself yet, but a few different people have posted instructions to the
> list.
>> You may run into the same problem though, where you won't be able to
>> authorize those books if your phone can't get to the authorization servers
>> for the mobile app.
 
 For example, Russ Kiehne posted these instructions to the list:
 
 Doing some research, I found the following, hope it helps:
 Loading books into the BARDmobile app
 
 The BARDmobile app is able to play any DAISY/NISO 2005 formatted
 book. To load the books into the iOS device for playback use the
>> following instructions.
 1. If not in a ZIP archive format. You should compress the directory
 holding the books files into a ZIP file.
 2. Connect the iOS device to your computer with a USB cable.
 3. Open the iTunes application and select the iOS device button at
 the right of the main window.
 4. select the "Apps" radio button on the main screen.
 5. At the bottom of the Apps screen is a section titled "File
 Sharing" with a column list of apps. One of those will be the
> BARDmobile
>> app select it.
 6. Press the "Add." button located in the bottom right of the screen.
 This will give you a dialog to select the ZIP file from step one. The
 book will then be added to the app. You may need to restart BARDmobile
>> to see the new book.
 NOTE:
 At this time the BARDmobile app will only play DAISY/NISO 2005 books.
 Other DAISY formats such as DAISY 2.02 and ePub 3 will simply fail to
>> load.
 
 
 On 10/13/2013 06:24 AM, Thom Spittle wrote:
> If you have dropbox, you shold be able to transfer it to the phone.
> Keep it as a zip file. Go to the file via dropbox. Once loaded, you
> can export to bard mobile.
> The only catch is authenticating the book with bard. If their system
> is down, it may not authenticate it.
> 
> HTH,
> Thom
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Dawn Petty
>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Interesting dellema with the bard ap.
>> 
>> I am also experiencing this.  I tried to add the book push by safire.
> when I go
>> to my wish list it says zero itims but if I go back to the book it
>> gives
> me a
>> remove from wish list link.  I am able to download it on to my pc
>> though.
> is
>> there any way to get it to the phone?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jenifer Barr
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 11:32 AM
>> To: viphone
>> Subject: Interesting dellema with the bard ap.
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> So, I added some books to my wishlist like I always do from the
>> website on my computer.  Before when I'd do this I'd go to the ap
>> on my phone, into
> my
>> wishlist and download them.  But, now, when I go into the ap,
>> they're not there.  I know they've been added, but they're not
>> there.  I've closed the
> ap
>> using the ap switcher...
>> reopened it... but still nothing.  Any suggestions?
>> Thanks in advance.
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Re: BARD: Autonatically Rereading A Previous Article In A Magazine

[Marc Sutton]

I have xperienced this a few times as well.
Marc

On Oct 13, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Alan Paganelli  
wrote:

> I'm not experiencing any problems with reading talking books with the bard 
> mobile app.
> ---
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan
> 
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
> 
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! Move 
> out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
> 
> Please click on:
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Amy Ruell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:33 AM
> Subject: RE: BARD: Autonatically Rereading A Previous Article In A Magazine
> 
> 
>> Hello,
>> We had a computer group meeting yesterday and several members of our group
>> reported that in some books the audio would suddenly skip back unexpectedly
>> by several hours.
>> Would report this to NLS.
>> Amy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Eileens Misrahi
>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: BARD: Autonatically Rereading A Previous Article In A Magazine
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I was reading a magazine with BARD this morning and had a funny thing happen
>> twice within the magazine. A previous article already read began to play
>> again out of order. The only fix I could think of real quick was to pause
>> the audio, and press the next button. Has anyone experience this while
>> reading a book or magazine with the app?. I'm just curious to know if this
>> is a bug that NLS should know about.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

[Rose Combs]

I only wish they would fix the problem of it being on speaker when it is up
to the ear, I hate my office hearing my phone calls because I can't get the
silly phone to go to the earpiece.  Never had this problem before I upgraded
to IOS 7, have a 4S and am not in a hurry to upgrade.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

Hi Cait,

 

Just as a suggestion, did you check what the audio routing is set to in the
Accessibility settings?

Anyhow, I'd rather have it go and stay on the earpiece since I wish Apple
would take out this automatic switching to speakerphone. I see little reason
why a Voiceover user can't tap the Speakerphone button if the call should be
on Speakerphone just like any sighted person. I think overall this automatic
switching to speakerphone causes more issues than what it's worth.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cait and Maggie
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

I have a 5 C and love it.

 

the problems I've experienced have been some of those related to voiceover.
these are a different screen sensitivity since installing OS7.x(I get this
on my i pad 2, also), when a call comes in, the phone automatically goes to
earpiece/up to the ear mode, even if I'm holding it away from my face.

 

Other then the little software things, which I think will even out as time
goes on, the hardware seems nice.  The phone is light but not overly so.

hth,

Cait

 

On 2013-10-14, at 5:16 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

Hi Neil,

 

I don't see why she should have any issues with the 5C, it's basically a 5
in a plastic housing. Any reviews of both the 5C and 5S I read on sites like
Engaged, The Verge etc. have been very positive and if she doesn't use
Voiceover and you really want feedback from other sighted users I suggest
doing a Google search about "iPhone 5C complaints" or "iPhone 5C reviews".
You could also send a message to Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast and ask
if he could ask people in his audience who bought a 5C to call in with their
thoughts on the 5C. The email address is  
t...@gmail.com. I even suggest to listen to this weeks Today in iOS Podcast
which most likely should be out later this week since he has only done one
since the 5S and 5C release so there will most likelybe be people calling in
with their thoughts, reviews or concerns. He normally does the Podcast
weekly, but it's now been 2 weeks and since it's likely Apple sends out
their invites tomorrow for next weeks iPad event, I am sure he will have an
episode in a few days. I find Today in iOS to be a very informative Podcast
and well worth the listen once a week.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@  googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:26 AM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Any problems people have with the iPhone 5C

 

Hi, Muy wife wanted to purchase a Verizon contract with the iPhone 5. She
was told they were no longer being sold. So, my question. Are there thos of
you who have the iPhone 5C and if so, have you encountered any problems yet.
I was a bit put off by Kara's message earlier, not by Kara, of course, but
by what the message had to say. My wife will not want to spend that much
money anyway, so she will settle for the 5C. But I thought I would see if
anyone who is using it has found any problems with it. She will not be using
VoiceOver.

 

Thanks much for your help.

 

Neal

 

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RE: Trust this computer

[Rose Combs]

Probably not but this is the only computer I have plugged the phone into it
is often on the wall charger and I never plug it into the computer at work,
just into the wall if I need it.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 6:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trust this computer

 

Rose, I don't think their is one because I couldn't find one either.  I
would think that if you've said yes trust this computer that it would be the
end of that but apparently not.

---

 

Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

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http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:32 PM

Subject: RE: Trust this computer

 

Seems I have to have turned off the computer to get this message, sometimes
the phone, but not always.  Should be a button to remember I think, but if
there is I have not found it.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trust this computer

 

I have both XP and iOS 7 on my iPhone 4 and am not experiencing this.  I get
the trust message but once I double tap don't trust, I never see it again
until I connect my iPhone 4 to my computer.  Usually just to charge it.

---

 

Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Tom Rash   

To: viphone   

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:34 AM

Subject: Trust this computer

 

Is anyone having this trouble.  When I plug in my iPhone via the US cord to
my computer, I keep getting the trust this computer message.  After I hit
trust, it keeps coming back, about a dozen times.  Is the problem my
computer or something with the iPhone.  

I'm using a PC with XP.  Also using IOS 7 on the iPhone 4S.  Thanks.

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Re: What 'sup with What'sapp?

[Chris H]

The main advantage of Whatsapp is that it's cross platform. Meaning 
anyone with a Blackberry, a Nokia phone, a Windows phone or even an 
Android phone can use Whatsapp. So no matter where the conversation 
begins, it is not tied to iOS devices unlike iMessage.


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On 16/10/2013 10:34, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:

The clever among you willhave caught the play on words.  Now, what is it and 
what does it do that
apps which are native to the device do not?


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Re: VO not holding focus.

[Chris H]

Sandy, have you tried turning on reduced motion in settings, general, 
accessibility? Your second query is actually a genuine bug that was 
discovered at the time iOS 7 was released. Not sure when Apple will if 
at all fix this but I can sympathize with how frustrating this is, since 
this used to work prior to iOS 7. The reason I am not experiencing so 
many genuine bugs as the rest of you is simply because of how I use my 
phone, which is also a 4s also running 7. First of all I use the touch 
screen entirely along with Siri. So that's the bluetooth keyboard bug 
out the window for me at least. As for focus issues in general this is 
mostly resolved with reduced motion turned on. Other times I just learn 
to live with it. Just my £0.02 worth.


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On 16/10/2013 10:58, Sandratomkins wrote:

HI,

 I think there is a genuine problem, using ios7 on my iPhone 4s. For 
example, one of my pleasures in life is to do the Cryptic Crossword in the 
Gardian, most days: until now, I have been able to do this using the online app 
that is used on the website of the paper together with vo. However, this has 
become increasingly flaky. This morning, it seems, that I cannot do it at all! 
I don't undrstand why this should have got worse, but it does eem to have done 
so. I have performed a reset, the one with the power and home buttons, but this 
hasn't fixed anything.

 Also, when sending a message, such as this one, I type vip into the "to" 
field and am offered the address for this list, but once havingt selected it, especially, 
when using my BT keyboard, I cannot move away from that field, I have to touch the screen 
to get vo to focus anew and then I can use the arrow keys or flick to find the edit field 
for the subject line.

 I know that people have mentioned the problems with focusing, here on this 
list before, I just wanted to say that I am still finding this, after having 
played with the latest update since the first day it came out. I wanted to give 
it time to see what was a bug and what was user error, and I have to say that 
this is definitely not user error. Neither do I think it a bug for non vo 
users,, so it is unlikely to be addressed by apple, unless we make them aware 
of it. However, I am always loath to submit a suspected bug before I have 
assured myself that others are also experiencing the same thing. So, is anyone 
else have problems with vo holding focus?

 TIA, Sandy.

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Re: VO not holding focus.

[Sandratomkins]

Hi again,

A year ago, I had planned to sell my old iPhone 4 when I got my new 4s. 
However, because I use these devices as my computer. Reading books, doing 
crosswords, searching the net, email and all that stuff, I decided to hold on 
to the old phone to share out the battery power. I decided not to update the 4  
to ios7, it has, of course, downloaded, but is sitting waiting for me to give 
the go ahead. Well, having started life as an ios7 fan, and I do still like 
many of the bells and whistles, I have to say that for many of my favourite 
activities, I am going back to my old 4. I mentioned, in the below message, 
that I can not longer do the Guardian Cryptic Crossword on my 4s with 7. Well, 
I just took a look on the 4 and what do you think, I can do the CW just as I 
always could. So, this is definitely a 7 bug for VO and it is, as far as I can 
judge, something that affects many applications and website functions.

Finally, I have turned off all the relevant settings that will drain the 
battery on my 44s running 7, and still find that the battery drains at an 
alarming rate!

pity 'tis true, but until these issues are addressed, I shall be using my 
old 4 for the forseeable future.

Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Oct 2013, at 10:58, Sandratomkins  wrote:
> 
> HI,
> 
>I think there is a genuine problem, using ios7 on my iPhone 4s. For 
> example, one of my pleasures in life is to do the Cryptic Crossword in the 
> Gardian, most days: until now, I have been able to do this using the online 
> app that is used on the website of the paper together with vo. However, this 
> has become increasingly flaky. This morning, it seems, that I cannot do it at 
> all! I don't undrstand why this should have got worse, but it does eem to 
> have done so. I have performed a reset, the one with the power and home 
> buttons, but this hasn't fixed anything.
> 
>Also, when sending a message, such as this one, I type vip into the "to" 
> field and am offered the address for this list, but once havingt selected it, 
> especially, when using my BT keyboard, I cannot move away from that field, I 
> have to touch the screen to get vo to focus anew and then I can use the arrow 
> keys or flick to find the edit field for the subject line.
> 
>I know that people have mentioned the problems with focusing, here on this 
> list before, I just wanted to say that I am still finding this, after having 
> played with the latest update since the first day it came out. I wanted to 
> give it time to see what was a bug and what was user error, and I have to say 
> that this is definitely not user error. Neither do I think it a bug for non 
> vo users,, so it is unlikely to be addressed by apple, unless we make them 
> aware of it. However, I am always loath to submit a suspected bug before I 
> have assured myself that others are also experiencing the same thing. So, is 
> anyone else have problems with vo holding focus?
> 
>TIA, Sandy. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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VO not holding focus.

[Sandratomkins]

HI,

I think there is a genuine problem, using ios7 on my iPhone 4s. For 
example, one of my pleasures in life is to do the Cryptic Crossword in the 
Gardian, most days: until now, I have been able to do this using the online app 
that is used on the website of the paper together with vo. However, this has 
become increasingly flaky. This morning, it seems, that I cannot do it at all! 
I don't undrstand why this should have got worse, but it does eem to have done 
so. I have performed a reset, the one with the power and home buttons, but this 
hasn't fixed anything.

Also, when sending a message, such as this one, I type vip into the "to" 
field and am offered the address for this list, but once havingt selected it, 
especially, when using my BT keyboard, I cannot move away from that field, I 
have to touch the screen to get vo to focus anew and then I can use the arrow 
keys or flick to find the edit field for the subject line.

I know that people have mentioned the problems with focusing, here on this 
list before, I just wanted to say that I am still finding this, after having 
played with the latest update since the first day it came out. I wanted to give 
it time to see what was a bug and what was user error, and I have to say that 
this is definitely not user error. Neither do I think it a bug for non vo 
users,, so it is unlikely to be addressed by apple, unless we make them aware 
of it. However, I am always loath to submit a suspected bug before I have 
assured myself that others are also experiencing the same thing. So, is anyone 
else have problems with vo holding focus?

TIA, Sandy. 

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Re: Strange Dong noise in maps tracking with headings iOS 7

[David Chittenden]

I have not experienced any sounds like that when using maps in iOS 7 on my 
iPhone five.

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Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Oct 2013, at 16:11, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I am currently discussing with apple accessibility an issue I reported and 
> they cannot clearly verify it or don't seem to get my description. SO, I am 
> curious if any of you has seen this and approached them with this.
> 
> When I turn on tracking with headings my iPhone 5 with iOS 7.02 gives off a 
> series of dongs kind of like when you try to flick past the last element on 
> the screen. FOr me they repeat at constant intervals when stationary and I 
> think also when I am walking but can't bet on this. Time is about 4 sec. This 
> is regardless wether I am navigating a route or not.
> 
> They appear to think that, if phone is stationary, this sound repeats more 
> and more oftenn and suppose it is to remind you that you are using GPS and 
> draining your battery. THis does not make sense to me and I personally think 
> this dong constantly sounding off is either a bug with the way my phone works 
> or in iOS 7.\My husband's phone is giving off sae regular repeating sounds 
> when stationary. Haven't tried moving around with it. Will do so soon.
> 
> Any thoughts,
> Ioana 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

[Sandratomkins]

Try only streets once more. I think you might find it will work!
Sandy.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Oct 2013, at 10:03, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Don't know if i even have it and i don't know where to search for those 
> settings, that's how dumb i am.
> I have something called filter speech, and there are 6 settings: All, own 
> streets, own places, own streets and places, own places and none. Yes, own 
> places occur twice, don't ask me why.
> I should also say that this is a rough translation from swedish. I do not 
> know what those texts are originally.
> I've tried "own streets" and it does nothing, only thing that seems to work 
> is all and that reports pois, usually after me having passed them by far.
> /Krister
> 
>> 16 okt 2013 kl. 10:45 skrev Sandratomkins :
>> 
>> hi,
>> Have you changed the filter settings to streets only?
>> This works for me.
>> Sandy.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 16 Oct 2013, at 09:16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On the other hand i've seen cases where even big streets in a city aren't 
>>> covered by OSM, i really wish that Blindsquare could use google maps 
>>> instead of the sucky OSM. I haven't checked cities in simulation mode and i 
>>> doubt that i would understand if i did and besides, it looks as though 
>>> blindsquare sees streets and so on, it just doesn't announce them 
>>> automatically no matter what i do. I've more or less given up on 
>>> Blindsquare because either it's the app or more likely it's me who's too 
>>> stupid to use the app so have stopped using it.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
 15 okt 2013 kl. 21:18 skrev Ari Moisio :
 
 Hi
 
 Strange... do you live in a city or at countryside?  Heve you checked some 
 bigger city in the simulation mode to find out  if there are more streeets 
 and crossings. Could you check with the OpenStreetMap site if there are 
 mapped roads around your location.
 
 OSM coverage  is quite good nowadays so i doubpt missing coverage might be 
 the problem.
 
 
 
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 Krister Ekstrom kirjoitti
> Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:49:49 +0200
> From: Krister Ekstrom 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Hi,
> I have actually tried to contact the developer but have yet to get 
> answers on why blindsquare doesn't tell intersections or even street 
> names. It tells me POis and adresses ok, but streets and intersections, 
> no way jose.
> /Krister
> 
>> 15 okt 2013 kl. 16:38 skrev Sieghard Weitzel :
>> 
>> Hi Krister,
>> 
>> Have you contacted the developer? Did they tell you it should work in
>> Sweden? Anyhow, I thought Blindsquare uses Google Maps and Foresquare so 
>> one
>> would  assume that it should work if google Maps works.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Krister Ekstrom
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
>> 
>> Hi,
>> If the developer is listening i have this to say: It would be fun to
>> participate, however i can't since it appears that Blindsquare doesn't 
>> work
>> properly in Sweden. Either that or you know something i don't know that
>> makes the whole thing work.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 14 okt 2013 kl. 23:21 skrev Anne Günther :
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> I got the link in another Mailinglist, sounds interesting.
>>> http://blindsquare.com/challenge/
>>> Guenni
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What 'sup with What'sapp?

[Ray T. Mahorney]

The clever among you willhave caught the play on words.  Now, what is it and 
what does it do that
apps which are native to the device do not?


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Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
Don't know if i even have it and i don't know where to search for those 
settings, that's how dumb i am.
I have something called filter speech, and there are 6 settings: All, own 
streets, own places, own streets and places, own places and none. Yes, own 
places occur twice, don't ask me why.
I should also say that this is a rough translation from swedish. I do not know 
what those texts are originally.
I've tried "own streets" and it does nothing, only thing that seems to work is 
all and that reports pois, usually after me having passed them by far.
/Krister

16 okt 2013 kl. 10:45 skrev Sandratomkins :

> hi,
> Have you changed the filter settings to streets only?
> This works for me.
> Sandy.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 16 Oct 2013, at 09:16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> On the other hand i've seen cases where even big streets in a city aren't 
>> covered by OSM, i really wish that Blindsquare could use google maps instead 
>> of the sucky OSM. I haven't checked cities in simulation mode and i doubt 
>> that i would understand if i did and besides, it looks as though blindsquare 
>> sees streets and so on, it just doesn't announce them automatically no 
>> matter what i do. I've more or less given up on Blindsquare because either 
>> it's the app or more likely it's me who's too stupid to use the app so have 
>> stopped using it.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 15 okt 2013 kl. 21:18 skrev Ari Moisio :
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Strange... do you live in a city or at countryside?  Heve you checked some 
>>> bigger city in the simulation mode to find out  if there are more streeets 
>>> and crossings. Could you check with the OpenStreetMap site if there are 
>>> mapped roads around your location.
>>> 
>>> OSM coverage  is quite good nowadays so i doubpt missing coverage might be 
>>> the problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> Lat: 62.38718, lon: 25.64672
>>> hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020
>>> 0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600  B784 D02
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Krister Ekstrom kirjoitti
 Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:49:49 +0200
 From: Krister Ekstrom 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Hi,
 I have actually tried to contact the developer but have yet to get answers 
 on why blindsquare doesn't tell intersections or even street names. It 
 tells me POis and adresses ok, but streets and intersections, no way jose.
 /Krister
 
> 15 okt 2013 kl. 16:38 skrev Sieghard Weitzel :
> 
> Hi Krister,
> 
> Have you contacted the developer? Did they tell you it should work in
> Sweden? Anyhow, I thought Blindsquare uses Google Maps and Foresquare so 
> one
> would  assume that it should work if google Maps works.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Krister Ekstrom
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
> 
> Hi,
> If the developer is listening i have this to say: It would be fun to
> participate, however i can't since it appears that Blindsquare doesn't 
> work
> properly in Sweden. Either that or you know something i don't know that
> makes the whole thing work.
> /Krister
> 
>> 14 okt 2013 kl. 23:21 skrev Anne Günther :
>> 
>> Hi
>> I got the link in another Mailinglist, sounds interesting.
>> http://blindsquare.com/challenge/
>> Guenni
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Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

[Sandratomkins]

hi,
Have you changed the filter settings to streets only?
This works for me.
Sandy.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Oct 2013, at 09:16, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> On the other hand i've seen cases where even big streets in a city aren't 
> covered by OSM, i really wish that Blindsquare could use google maps instead 
> of the sucky OSM. I haven't checked cities in simulation mode and i doubt 
> that i would understand if i did and besides, it looks as though blindsquare 
> sees streets and so on, it just doesn't announce them automatically no matter 
> what i do. I've more or less given up on Blindsquare because either it's the 
> app or more likely it's me who's too stupid to use the app so have stopped 
> using it.
> /Krister
> 
>> 15 okt 2013 kl. 21:18 skrev Ari Moisio :
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Strange... do you live in a city or at countryside?  Heve you checked some 
>> bigger city in the simulation mode to find out  if there are more streeets 
>> and crossings. Could you check with the OpenStreetMap site if there are 
>> mapped roads around your location.
>> 
>> OSM coverage  is quite good nowadays so i doubpt missing coverage might be 
>> the problem.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> mr. M01510 & guide Loadstone-GPS
>> Lat: 62.38718, lon: 25.64672
>> hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020
>> 0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600  B784 D02
>> 
>> 
>> Krister Ekstrom kirjoitti
>>> Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
>>> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:49:49 +0200
>>> From: Krister Ekstrom 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Hi,
>>> I have actually tried to contact the developer but have yet to get answers 
>>> on why blindsquare doesn't tell intersections or even street names. It 
>>> tells me POis and adresses ok, but streets and intersections, no way jose.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
 15 okt 2013 kl. 16:38 skrev Sieghard Weitzel :
 
 Hi Krister,
 
 Have you contacted the developer? Did they tell you it should work in
 Sweden? Anyhow, I thought Blindsquare uses Google Maps and Foresquare so 
 one
 would  assume that it should work if google Maps works.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Krister Ekstrom
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
 
 Hi,
 If the developer is listening i have this to say: It would be fun to
 participate, however i can't since it appears that Blindsquare doesn't work
 properly in Sweden. Either that or you know something i don't know that
 makes the whole thing work.
 /Krister
 
> 14 okt 2013 kl. 23:21 skrev Anne Günther :
> 
> Hi
> I got the link in another Mailinglist, sounds interesting.
> http://blindsquare.com/challenge/
> Guenni
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Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users

[Krister Ekstrom]

On the other hand i've seen cases where even big streets in a city aren't 
covered by OSM, i really wish that Blindsquare could use google maps instead of 
the sucky OSM. I haven't checked cities in simulation mode and i doubt that i 
would understand if i did and besides, it looks as though blindsquare sees 
streets and so on, it just doesn't announce them automatically no matter what i 
do. I've more or less given up on Blindsquare because either it's the app or 
more likely it's me who's too stupid to use the app so have stopped using it.
/Krister

15 okt 2013 kl. 21:18 skrev Ari Moisio :

> Hi
> 
> Strange... do you live in a city or at countryside?  Heve you checked some 
> bigger city in the simulation mode to find out  if there are more streeets 
> and crossings. Could you check with the OpenStreetMap site if there are 
> mapped roads around your location.
> 
> OSM coverage  is quite good nowadays so i doubpt missing coverage might be 
> the problem.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Lat: 62.38718, lon: 25.64672
> hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020
> 0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600  B784 D02
> 
> 
> Krister Ekstrom kirjoitti
>> Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
>> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:49:49 +0200
>> From: Krister Ekstrom 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Hi,
>> I have actually tried to contact the developer but have yet to get answers 
>> on why blindsquare doesn't tell intersections or even street names. It tells 
>> me POis and adresses ok, but streets and intersections, no way jose.
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 15 okt 2013 kl. 16:38 skrev Sieghard Weitzel :
>> 
>>> Hi Krister,
>>> 
>>> Have you contacted the developer? Did they tell you it should work in
>>> Sweden? Anyhow, I thought Blindsquare uses Google Maps and Foresquare so one
>>> would  assume that it should work if google Maps works.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Krister Ekstrom
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:00 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: This might be interesting for blindsquare users
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> If the developer is listening i have this to say: It would be fun to
>>> participate, however i can't since it appears that Blindsquare doesn't work
>>> properly in Sweden. Either that or you know something i don't know that
>>> makes the whole thing work.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 14 okt 2013 kl. 23:21 skrev Anne Günther :
>>> 
 Hi
 I got the link in another Mailinglist, sounds interesting.
 http://blindsquare.com/challenge/
 Guenni
 
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