RE: Getting started with Blind Square

[davidmac1957]

Hi, here’s a Youtube audio which may help.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDAMGSfTOq8

 

From: rhs via VIPhone  
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Subject: Getting started with Blind Square

 

Hi,

 

I just downloaded Blind Square and am a little overwhelmed by all the options.  
I have a couple of questions that hopefully will get me started.

 

When I decided to get Blind Square I thought it would work in a similar way to 
Apple Maps or Good Maps Outdoors.  After reading some of the manual, it seems 
that Blind Square works in conjunction with Apple Maps and not in place of it.  
So, what do I need to do to use them together?

 

Second, I bought Blind Square because I want to explore routes and destinations 
starting from a location different than my actual location.  My wife and I are 
buying a house in a different town.  I’d like to figure out what businesses are 
in the area of our new house.  I’d like to figure out the location of 
particular types of businesses such as drug stores or florists (our anniversary 
is coming soon) to know which I can reach by walking or by public 
transportation.  

 

Any pointers to get me started would be much appreciated.

 

Ralph

 

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RE: Getting started with Blind Square

[Alan Lemly]

Ralph,

 

I’d recommend you subscribe to the blindsquare...@groups.io 
<mailto:blindsquare...@groups.io>  list for getting more specific help with 
BlindSquare. You can subscribe by sending a blank email to:

 

blindsquaregps+subscr...@groups.io <mailto:blindsquaregps+subscr...@groups.io> 

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: rhs via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 8:37 AM
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Subject: Getting started with Blind Square

 

Hi,

 

I just downloaded Blind Square and am a little overwhelmed by all the options.  
I have a couple of questions that hopefully will get me started.

 

When I decided to get Blind Square I thought it would work in a similar way to 
Apple Maps or Good Maps Outdoors.  After reading some of the manual, it seems 
that Blind Square works in conjunction with Apple Maps and not in place of it.  
So, what do I need to do to use them together?

 

Second, I bought Blind Square because I want to explore routes and destinations 
starting from a location different than my actual location.  My wife and I are 
buying a house in a different town.  I’d like to figure out what businesses are 
in the area of our new house.  I’d like to figure out the location of 
particular types of businesses such as drug stores or florists (our anniversary 
is coming soon) to know which I can reach by walking or by public 
transportation.  

 

Any pointers to get me started would be much appreciated.

 

Ralph

 

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RE: Getting started with Blind Square

[Richard Turner]

BlindSquare is not a turn-by-turn navigation app, as you have figured out.

Yu an search for a business or address, and once found, you will find an option 
to begin a route, then you will have a choice of which navigation app to use.

You can leave BlindSquare running in the background when the other app, Google 
or Apple, takes over and blindsquare will continue giving you updates.  That 
can get a little busy.

 

As for exploring an area, search for the address of your new house, then keep 
flicking through the options to Simulate This Location.

Once you start the simulation, you can use the various categories to explore 
what is around yu.

 

It takes some patience and trial and error, but works quite well.

 

Note, the data may or not be up to date.  Sometimes businesses go out or change 
names and the digital map takes a long time to get updated.

 

Enjoy,

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: rhs via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Getting started with Blind Square

 

Hi,

 

I just downloaded Blind Square and am a little overwhelmed by all the options.  
I have a couple of questions that hopefully will get me started.

 

When I decided to get Blind Square I thought it would work in a similar way to 
Apple Maps or Good Maps Outdoors.  After reading some of the manual, it seems 
that Blind Square works in conjunction with Apple Maps and not in place of it.  
So, what do I need to do to use them together?

 

Second, I bought Blind Square because I want to explore routes and destinations 
starting from a location different than my actual location.  My wife and I are 
buying a house in a different town.  I’d like to figure out what businesses are 
in the area of our new house.  I’d like to figure out the location of 
particular types of businesses such as drug stores or florists (our anniversary 
is coming soon) to know which I can reach by walking or by public 
transportation.  

 

Any pointers to get me started would be much appreciated.

 

Ralph

 

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Getting started with Blind Square

[rhs via VIPhone]

Hi,

 

I just downloaded Blind Square and am a little overwhelmed by all the options.  
I have a couple of questions that hopefully will get me started.

 

When I decided to get Blind Square I thought it would work in a similar way to 
Apple Maps or Good Maps Outdoors.  After reading some of the manual, it seems 
that Blind Square works in conjunction with Apple Maps and not in place of it.  
So, what do I need to do to use them together?

 

Second, I bought Blind Square because I want to explore routes and destinations 
starting from a location different than my actual location.  My wife and I are 
buying a house in a different town.  I’d like to figure out what businesses are 
in the area of our new house.  I’d like to figure out the location of 
particular types of businesses such as drug stores or florists (our anniversary 
is coming soon) to know which I can reach by walking or by public 
transportation.  

 

Any pointers to get me started would be much appreciated.

 

Ralph

 

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Re: Re downloading Blind Square

[Donna Casteen]

Hi

I experienced the same situation when I was setting up my new iPhone 11 several 
months ago. The developer informed that this sometimes happens, an app in the 
app store shows that it hasn't been purchased when in actuality the app has 
been purchased. If you are currently using the same Apple ID that you used to 
purchase the app, just tap on the price & the app will download wwithout 
charging your account. If you you have your copy of the purchase receipt or get 
a copy by going into purchase history within the app store my account, the 
developer will send you a code to use to redownload the app.

Donna
 
> 
> 
> Hi everyone. I just got my new Iphone 13 mini. Very exciting. I went through 
> and re-downloaded all my apps. However, BlSquare wasn’t among the ones 
> listed. When I looked for it in the app store it gave me the purchase price 
> of $39 and some odd cents. I purchased it when it first came out. I really 
> don’t want to pay for it again. Is there a way for me to verify my purchase? 
> Thanks. I do like the app, but if I have to pay for it again, I may just go 
> with the free ones already offered. Thanks for any information.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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Re: Re downloading Blind Square

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello, first of all I am CCing the developer of that app in this email. And he 
might be able to shed some light to you privately. Secondly, if you're using 
the same Apple ID that you've always used, meaning you did not make a new Apple 
ID whenever you set up one of your previous iPhones, you should not be asked to 
pay for it again. Hopefully Ilkka will be able to provide you with some 
information as well.

> On Oct 6, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone. I just got my new Iphone 13 mini. Very exciting. I went through 
> and re-downloaded all my apps. However, BlSquare wasn’t among the ones 
> listed. When I looked for it in the app store it gave me the purchase price 
> of $39 and some odd cents. I purchased it when it first came out. I really 
> don’t want to pay for it again. Is there a way for me to verify my purchase? 
> Thanks. I do like the app, but if I have to pay for it again, I may just go 
> with the free ones already offered. Thanks for any information.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups 
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Re: Re downloading Blind Square

[Arnold Schmidt]

I bought Blind Square several years ago, but have not had it on any of my 
devices for quite a while. I just checked the app store, and it still says 
redownload. I would call either the apple main number, or apple accessibility 
about it, before I cost myself $40 for nothing. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Oct 6, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:


Hi everyone. I just got my new Iphone 13 mini. Very exciting. I went through 
and re-downloaded all my apps. However, BlSquare wasn’t among the ones listed. 
When I looked for it in the app store it gave me the purchase price of $39 and 
some odd cents. I purchased it when it first came out. I really don’t want to 
pay for it again. Is there a way for me to verify my purchase? Thanks. I do 
like the app, but if I have to pay for it again, I may just go with the free 
ones already offered. Thanks for any information.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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Re downloading Blind Square

[Paula Jordan]

Hi everyone. I just got my new Iphone 13 mini. Very exciting. I went through
and re-downloaded all my apps. However, BlSquare wasn't among the ones
listed. When I looked for it in the app store it gave me the purchase price
of $39 and some odd cents. I purchased it when it first came out. I really
don't want to pay for it again. Is there a way for me to verify my purchase?
Thanks. I do like the app, but if I have to pay for it again, I may just go
with the free ones already offered. Thanks for any information.

God bless!

Paula and the pups 

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RE: Blind square list?

[Richard Turner]

If writing their support didn’t help, go to the groups.io web site and search 
for BlindSquare.  That is where the group is now hosted.
It seems to be a very quiet group.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
J. LaPointe
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind square list?

Thank you Richard.  Andy and Shubert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Blind square list?


Try writing them atsupp...@blindsquare.com<mailto:supp...@blindsquare.com>





Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Aug 16, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Hello All, does Blind square still have list to subscribe to?  I have a few
things that have changed with the App that I need to ask their list.  Thanks
so much.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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RE: Blind square list?

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Thank you Richard.  Andy and Shubert

 

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Try writing them atsupp...@blindsquare.com <mailto:supp...@blindsquare.com> 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Blind square list?

[Richard Turner]

Try writing them atsupp...@blindsquare.com<mailto:supp...@blindsquare.com>




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Hello All, does Blind square still have list to subscribe to?  I have a few
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Blind square list?

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hello All, does Blind square still have list to subscribe to?  I have a few
things that have changed with the App that I need to ask their list.  Thanks
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

[Richard Turner]

Could you send an address you have tried so I can check to see if I can 
duplicate the issue?




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On Feb 4, 2020, at 11:01 AM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via 
VIPhone  wrote:


thanks very much, Richard. With your advice, I went into BlindSquare with every 
confidence it would work.

Much to my chagrin, the well-established addresses I entered reveal a search 
that cannot find those addresses. I know these are existing addresses, but for 
some reason the search engine cannot find them.
so, I deleted the app and reinstalled. I experienced the same behavior.

Do you have any other suggestions? This is most strange to me.

Best, Keith

On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:53 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 You do not need to go into settings, first. Just use the search button in the 
top left.
Then, once you have your destination found, double tap on it and then flick to 
simulate location.
Also, BTW, the search radius is for when you use a category like my places, 
food, etc.




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On Feb 3, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Marie  wrote:

I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to the 
best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then enter the 
area you wish to simulate.
In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is not 
the same as you would use in the simulation mode.
I hope this works.
Marie


-Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via 
VIPhone
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my 
places so that I can simulate a route?

hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure 
it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route
The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen 
top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within 
the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a 
way around this.

Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

['Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone]

thanks very much, Richard. With your advice, I went into BlindSquare with every 
confidence it would work.

Much to my chagrin, the well-established addresses I entered reveal a search 
that cannot find those addresses. I know these are existing addresses, but for 
some reason the search engine cannot find them.
so, I deleted the app and reinstalled. I experienced the same behavior.

Do you have any other suggestions? This is most strange to me.

Best, Keith

On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:53 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 You do not need to go into settings, first. Just use the search button in the 
top left.
Then, once you have your destination found, double tap on it and then flick to 
simulate location.
Also, BTW, the search radius is for when you use a category like my places, 
food, etc.




Richard
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-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Feb 3, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Marie  wrote:

I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to the 
best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then enter the 
area you wish to simulate.
In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is not 
the same as you would use in the simulation mode.
I hope this works.
Marie


-Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via 
VIPhone
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my 
places so that I can simulate a route?

hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure 
it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route
The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen 
top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within 
the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a 
way around this.

Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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Re: Blind Square

[Richard Turner]

I found the below in the settings help. Somewhere in there is a restore my 
places in the Other menu I think.
If someone knows more I hope they'll chime in.
you use iCloud, BlindSquare will save your settings to iCloud and they will be 
synchronized between your devices. If you are using BlindSquare on several 
devices, it will suffice to select your preferred settings on one device, 
because they will be shared between all of your devices connected to the same 
iCloud account.




Richard
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On Feb 4, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO)  wrote:


I had to delete it and re-install and now I’m having no issues. It’s working 
but all of my previous locations I had within the app are all gone.
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square

First, make sure everything is out of the app switcher.
Reboot your phone.
If that still happens, you may have to delete and redownload the app.



Richard
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On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:37 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO) 
mailto:lau...@michigan.gov>> wrote:

Since updating to the most recent IOS update anytime I try opening blind square 
it automatically closes out and takes me back to the home page of my phone. Is 
this happening to anyone else? Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks

Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC
Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor
Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
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RE: Blind Square

[Laury, Shawnese (LEO)]

I had to delete it and re-install and now I’m having no issues. It’s working 
but all of my previous locations I had within the app are all gone.
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:58 AM
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Subject: Re: Blind Square

First, make sure everything is out of the app switcher.
Reboot your phone.
If that still happens, you may have to delete and redownload the app.



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On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:37 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO) 
mailto:lau...@michigan.gov>> wrote:

Since updating to the most recent IOS update anytime I try opening blind square 
it automatically closes out and takes me back to the home page of my phone. Is 
this happening to anyone else? Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks

Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC
Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor
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Re: Blind Square

[Richard Turner]

First, make sure everything is out of the app switcher.
Reboot your phone.
If that still happens, you may have to delete and redownload the app.




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On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:37 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO)  wrote:


Since updating to the most recent IOS update anytime I try opening blind square 
it automatically closes out and takes me back to the home page of my phone. Is 
this happening to anyone else? Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks

Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC
Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor
Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
Cadillac Place
3038 W. Grand Blvd
Suite 4-450
Detroit, MI 48202
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Re: Blind Square

[Alex Stone]

It doesn’t happen to me, I used it to find a bus stop about ten minutes ago, 
and it worked fine.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO) 
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 1:37:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Blind Square


Since updating to the most recent IOS update anytime I try opening blind square 
it automatically closes out and takes me back to the home page of my phone. Is 
this happening to anyone else? Does anyone know how to fix this?

Thanks



Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC

Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor

Bureau of Services for Blind Persons

Cadillac Place

3038 W. Grand Blvd

Suite 4-450

Detroit, MI 48202

313-456-3289 (o)

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Blind Square

[Laury, Shawnese (LEO)]

Since updating to the most recent IOS update anytime I try opening blind square 
it automatically closes out and takes me back to the home page of my phone. Is 
this happening to anyone else? Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks

Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC
Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor
Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
Cadillac Place
3038 W. Grand Blvd
Suite 4-450
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Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

[Richard Turner]

You do not need to go into settings, first. Just use the search button in the 
top left.
Then, once you have your destination found, double tap on it and then flick to 
simulate location.
Also, BTW, the search radius is for when you use a category like my places, 
food, etc.




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On Feb 3, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Marie  wrote:

I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to the 
best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then enter the 
area you wish to simulate.
In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is not 
the same as you would use in the simulation mode.
I hope this works.
Marie


-Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via 
VIPhone
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my 
places so that I can simulate a route?

hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure 
it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route
The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen 
top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within 
the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a 
way around this.

Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

[Richard Turner]

On the first screen of Blind Square, find the search button in the top left, 
not the my places search, but the plain search button.
Enter the address, for example, I'm in Oregon, I put in a made up address, 500 
Broadway, New York City, NY
And found one place over 2 thousand miles away, I flicked right to that search 
result and double tapped.
Then, flick right until you get to Simulate this location and double tap.
You do not have to add it to My Places first.
HTH,




Richard
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On Feb 3, 2020, at 4:03 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure 
it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route
The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen 
top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within 
the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a 
way around this.

Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

[Marie]

I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to 
the best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then 
enter the area you wish to simulate.
In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is 
not the same as you would use in the simulation mode.

I hope this works.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone

Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my 
places so that I can simulate a route?


hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot 
figure it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route
The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening 
screen top left search field, I get a message that the search location is 
not within the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to 
figure out a way around this.


Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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I'm also interested in this answer: RE: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

[territek]

I have an additional question as well. I like to go out for treks with my 
Seeing Eye dog through my neighborhood, which has the same start and end point 
(home). I want to explore routes through my area at home before I go out 
walking. 
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone 
 
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 5:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my 
places so that I can simulate a route?

hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure 
it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in 
the opening screen top left search field, I get a message that the search 
location is not within the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot 
seem to figure out a way around this.

Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

['Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone]

hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure 
it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route
The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen 
top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within 
the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a 
way around this.

Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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Re: Blind square

[Marie]

It is important to remember that when Blind Square gives you the distance to 
the next cross street, it is giving the distance from the middle of the street, 
not the curb. This is, I believe due to the fact of the GPS systems being 
intended for automobiles and not pedestrians.
Marie


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Blind square

James, GPS accuracy varies widely; so you could be 30 feet from a cross street 
or 100.
If the streets are on the map, it should announce them, but some smaller 
streets, paths, are not on maps, so without actually walking the route, no one 
can say if everything will be announced.But, the following information from the 
Blind Square help may give you some idea of what to try.
When BlindSquare announces your distance to an intersection, it uses the center 
of the intersection as a reference point. This means that the width of the 
street also determines how soon you hear the BlindSquare intersection 
announcement before you reach the curb. If you live in an area where the 
streets are narrow, you may find that BlindSquare announces intersections too 
early, whereas in an area where streets are particularly wide, intersections 
may be announced too late. If the default medium setting of this option does 
not work to your satisfaction, try using the Long setting if streets in your 
area are wide or Short if streets are very narrow. 




Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



  On Sep 16, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


   
  Blindsquare doesn’t have intersection analysis yet. It is something I have 
lobbying for for years.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 8:00 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Blind square

   

  Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do 
not know your cane skills. 

  Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.

  Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing; 
while Apple Maps tells you when to turn.

  I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business 
names etc when I really just want to know the streets.

  Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the 
turn-by-turn portion of the directions.

  HTH,

   

  Richard 

   

  Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

   





On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English  wrote:

Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  wrote:



  Could be very interesting; thank you.

   

  Karen

  At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:

I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a

lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own

points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the

latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows

you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money

reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots

and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app

worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of

the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which

became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can

subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full

version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.

However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US

and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New

Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South

America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the

Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as

African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for

those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest

denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and

they also offer a 2-week free trial.

I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy

if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to

distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of

the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian

Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was

   

Re: Blind square

[Richard Turner]

James, GPS accuracy varies widely; so you could be 30 feet from a cross street 
or 100.
If the streets are on the map, it should announce them, but some smaller 
streets, paths, are not on maps, so without actually walking the route, no one 
can say if everything will be announced.But, the following information from the 
Blind Square help may give you some idea of what to try.
When BlindSquare announces your distance to an intersection, it uses the center 
of the intersection as a reference point. This means that the width of the 
street also determines how soon you hear the BlindSquare intersection 
announcement before you reach the curb. If you live in an area where the 
streets are narrow, you may find that BlindSquare announces intersections too 
early, whereas in an area where streets are particularly wide, intersections 
may be announced too late. If the default medium setting of this option does 
not work to your satisfaction, try using the Long setting if streets in your 
area are wide or Short if streets are very narrow.



Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 16, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


Blindsquare doesn’t have intersection analysis yet. It is something I have 
lobbying for for years.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind square

Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do 
not know your cane skills.
Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.
Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing; while 
Apple Maps tells you when to turn.
I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business names 
etc when I really just want to know the streets.
Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the 
turn-by-turn portion of the directions.
HTH,

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English 
mailto:james13engl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Could be very interesting; thank you.

Karen
At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
they also offer a 2-week free trial.
I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:

https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fcash-reader-bill-identifier%2Fid1344802905data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced598d27e03e4fa3da0c08d73aefdde8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6

RE: Blind square

[Larry Lumpkin]

Blindsquare doesn’t have intersection analysis yet. It is something I have 
lobbying for for years.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind square

 

Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do 
not know your cane skills. 

Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.

Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing; while 
Apple Maps tells you when to turn.

I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business names 
etc when I really just want to know the streets.

Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the 
turn-by-turn portion of the directions.

HTH,

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 





On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English mailto:james13engl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Could be very interesting; thank you.

 

Karen

At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:

I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a

lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own

points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the

latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows

you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money

reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots

and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app

worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of

the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which

became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can

subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full

version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.

However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US

and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New

Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South

America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the

Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as

African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for

those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest

denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and

they also offer a 2-week free trial.

I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy

if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to

distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of

the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian

Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was

using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used

automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the

bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an

angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if

you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the

back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set

vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:

 

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Re: Blind square

[James English]

Hi,

What I guess I mean is how accurate is it? When blind square says
street is right in front of me, am I right at the curb, or will their
be slight turns and tiny side streets that aren't spoken?

On 9/17/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do
> not know your cane skills.
> Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.
> Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing;
> while Apple Maps tells you when to turn.
> I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business
> names etc when I really just want to know the streets.
> Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the
> turn-by-turn portion of the directions.
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
>
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
> busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
> house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
> blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
> course.
>
> - James
>
> On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Could be very interesting; thank you.
>
> Karen
> At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
> I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
> lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
> points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
> latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
> you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
> reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
> and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
> worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
> the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
> became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
> subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
> version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
> However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
> and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
> Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
> America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
> Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
> African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
> those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
> denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
> they also offer a 2-week free trial.
> I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
> if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
> distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
> the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
> Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
> using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
> automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
> bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
> angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
> you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
> back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
> vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:
>
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fcash-reader-bill-identifier%2Fid1344802905data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced598d27e03e4fa3da0c08d73aefdde8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637042674195202727sdata=RwOUs1VuFkZA1AvROTXJN4kMKfT9AdPIy7SkWsLc2QI%3Dreserved=0
>
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> Sieghard
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Re: Blind square

[Richard Turner]

Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do 
not know your cane skills.
Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.
Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing; while 
Apple Maps tells you when to turn.
I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business names 
etc when I really just want to know the streets.
Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the 
turn-by-turn portion of the directions.
HTH,


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English  wrote:

Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  wrote:
Could be very interesting; thank you.

Karen
At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
they also offer a 2-week free trial.
I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:

https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fcash-reader-bill-identifier%2Fid1344802905data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced598d27e03e4fa3da0c08d73aefdde8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637042674195202727sdata=RwOUs1VuFkZA1AvROTXJN4kMKfT9AdPIy7SkWsLc2QI%3Dreserved=0

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Re: Blind square

[James English]

Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Could be very interesting; thank you.
>
> Karen
> At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
>>I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
>>lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
>>points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
>>latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
>>you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
>>reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
>>and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
>>worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
>>the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
>>became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
>>subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
>>version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
>>However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
>>and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
>>Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
>>America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
>>Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
>>African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
>>those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
>>denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
>>they also offer a 2-week free trial.
>>I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
>>if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
>>distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
>>the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
>>Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
>>using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
>>automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
>>bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
>>angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
>>you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
>>back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
>>vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:
>>
>>https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cash-reader-bill-identifier/id1344802905
>>
>>Regards,
>>Sieghard
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RE: Blind square

['Karen Delzer' via VIPhone]

Could be very interesting; thank you.

Karen
At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a 
lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own 
points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the 
latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows 
you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money 
reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots 
and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app 
worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of 
the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which 
became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can 
subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full 
version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US 
and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New 
Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South 
America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the 
Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as 
African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for 
those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest 
denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and 
they also offer a 2-week free trial.
I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy 
if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to 
distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of 
the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian 
Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was 
using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used 
automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the 
bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an 
angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if 
you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the 
back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set 
vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:


https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cash-reader-bill-identifier/id1344802905

Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Blind square

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a lot of 
information about what is around you, you can record your own points and it 
even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the latest update you can tap on 
a button called "Lense" and it allows you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I 
don't often require a money reader because in Canada all the bills are marked 
with braille dots and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing 
AI app worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of the 
water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which became Nand 
Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can subscribe monthly or annually 
or get a lifetime license for the full version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US 
it is $17.99.
However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US and 
Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New Zealand Dollars 
to pretty much everything from central and South America, many European 
currencies from countries which aren't on the Euro like some of the 
Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as African currencies. You would 
need to purchase the full version for those, I think the free version only 
supports only the two lowest denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 
and $10 bills and they also offer a 2-week free trial. 
I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy if I go to 
the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to distinguish their 
many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of the supported currencies. I 
tried it with a couple of Canadian Dollar bills and I think by that time it was 
pretty dark so it was using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used 
automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the bill by the 
camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an angle... it was actually 
quite impressive. You can also select if you want to use the front or back 
camera, by default it uses the back camera and for those who are hard of 
hearing you can even set vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a 
link for the app:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cash-reader-bill-identifier/id1344802905

Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Blind square

['Karen Delzer' via VIPhone]

Yah, wish they'd named it something else. Puts me 
in mind of creepy things I'd rather not think about.


Karen
At 06:13 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:

Swarm???
At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:

I̢۪ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile



investment indeed! Not only it̢۪s for GPS



and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm through it!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry 
Lumpkin <<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:


I just got an app update for it a couple of 
days ago. As to cost. I think it is well worth 
the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 by now, Iâ€â„„¢d gladly pay it.



From: 
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To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind square

<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255>https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255 



Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 14, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Robert Wright 
<<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:



I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

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Re: Blind square

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I just don't have any real need in my life for GPS at the moment.  I'm
selling my victor trek which is something I never should have bought.

On 9/15/19, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'm not sure how it works with BlindSquare, but with Swarm, just like
> any social media service, you can determine who sees where you check in.
>
>
> On 9/15/19 8:15 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I was curious too, so I checked the app store.
>> Swarm is a Four Square checkin app to track the places you visit.
>> Because it is Four Square, I suspect that means everyone on Swarm can
>> see where you are, which doesn't interest me at all.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2019, at 6:13 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>>>
>>> Swarm???
>>> At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
>>>> I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile investment indeed! Not
>>>> only it’s for GPS and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm
>>>> through it!
>>>>
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>>
>>>> El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry Lumpkin
>>>> <<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I
>>>>> think it is well worth the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40
>>>>> by now, I’d gladly pay it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 11:38 PM
>>>>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Blind square
>>>>>
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Re: Blind square

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure how it works with BlindSquare, but with Swarm, just like 
any social media service, you can determine who sees where you check in.



On 9/15/19 8:15 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I was curious too, so I checked the app store.
Swarm is a Four Square checkin app to track the places you visit.
Because it is Four Square, I suspect that means everyone on Swarm can 
see where you are, which doesn't interest me at all.



Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 15, 2019, at 6:13 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

Swarm???
At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile investment indeed! Not 
only it’s for GPS and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm 
through it!


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry Lumpkin 
<<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:


I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I 
think it is well worth the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 
by now, I’d gladly pay it.



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I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

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Re: Blind square

[Gerardo Corripio]

Swarm is what used to be FourSquare; you can Checkin places you go to etc. YOu 
can use this through BlindSquare.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:13 a. m., Ann Byrne  escribió:

> Swarm???
> At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
>> I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile investment indeed! Not only 
>> it’s for GPS and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm through it!
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry Lumpkin 
>> <<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:
>> 
>>> I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I think 
>>> it is well worth the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 by now, I’d 
>>> gladly pay it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 11:38 PM
>>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Blind square
>>> 
>>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255>https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Robert Wright 
>>> <<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.
>>> 
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Re: Blind square

[Richard Turner]

I was curious too, so I checked the app store.
Swarm is a Four Square checkin app to track the places you visit.
Because it is Four Square, I suspect that means everyone on Swarm can see where 
you are, which doesn't interest me at all.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 15, 2019, at 6:13 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

Swarm???
At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile investment indeed! Not only it’s 
for GPS and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm through it!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry Lumpkin 
<<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:

I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I think it is 
well worth the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 by now, I’d gladly pay 
it.


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On Sep 14, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Robert Wright 
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I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

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Re: Blind square

[Ann Byrne]

Swarm???
At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile 
investment indeed! Not only it’s for GPS 
and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm through it!


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry 
Lumpkin <<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:


I just got an app update for it a couple of 
days ago. As to cost. I think it is well worth 
the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 by now, I’d gladly pay it.



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To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
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<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255>https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255 



Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



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<<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:



I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

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Re: Blind square

[Gerardo Corripio]

I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile investment indeed! Not only it’s for 
GPS and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm through it!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry Lumpkin  
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> I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I think it 
> is well worth the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 by now, I’d gladly 
> pay it.
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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RE: Blind square

[Larry Lumpkin]

I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I think it is 
well worth the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 by now, I’d gladly pay it.

 

 

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https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255 

 

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I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

 

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Re: Blind square

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I just did a siri search for blind square app store and I found it.
I'm not paying $40  for it though.

On 9/15/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
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Re: Blind square

[Richard Turner]

i found it by searching for blindsquare written as one word.
Did you search with two words?
Not sure why it doesn't show if written as two words.


Richard

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On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:25 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:


My wife sent it to me. I just don’t understand why it didn’t show even when I 
searched for the word Blind.

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I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

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RE: Blind square

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My wife sent it to me. I just don’t understand why it didn’t show even when I 
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https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255 

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Blind square

[Robert Wright]

I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

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RE: Blind Square price?

[R Van Lant]

Wayne,
Thanks for mentioning the menus.  I did not know that was a function in Blind 
Square.  

After getting disoriented on a walk with my new guide dog yesterday, I'm even 
more eager to have Blind Square announcing intersections.  Apple maps got me 
home, but I still have no idea where I went astray yesterday and made a wrong 
turn.  



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Subject: Re: Blind Square price?

I bought it when it was $29.99 in January of last year. Though the
price has gone up a little, it is still worth the price. If
BlindSquare offers what you want/need then go for it. I am ever
grateful that I did, since now I can get the intersection information
on my bus ride home, along with menus from many more restaurants than
I've found in other apps.

Wayne

On 3/16/17, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> the old price was 29.99. That was over a year ago I believe.
> The regular price is 39.99. I do not recall it being on sale.
> Richard
>
>
> On Mar 16, 2017, at 8:22 PM, R Van Lant
> <vanlant2...@msn.com<mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:
>
> I finally got a gift certificate to use to buy Blind Square.  I thought it
> had been only $29, but now it’s in the app store for $39.  Anyone know if
> this app goes on sale for the $29 price with any regularity or should I just
> go for it at this higher price?
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Re: Blind Square price?

[Wayne Merritt]

I bought it when it was $29.99 in January of last year. Though the
price has gone up a little, it is still worth the price. If
BlindSquare offers what you want/need then go for it. I am ever
grateful that I did, since now I can get the intersection information
on my bus ride home, along with menus from many more restaurants than
I've found in other apps.

Wayne

On 3/16/17, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> the old price was 29.99. That was over a year ago I believe.
> The regular price is 39.99. I do not recall it being on sale.
> Richard
>
>
> On Mar 16, 2017, at 8:22 PM, R Van Lant
> <vanlant2...@msn.com<mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:
>
> I finally got a gift certificate to use to buy Blind Square.  I thought it
> had been only $29, but now it’s in the app store for $39.  Anyone know if
> this app goes on sale for the $29 price with any regularity or should I just
> go for it at this higher price?
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Re: Blind Square price?

[Richard Turner]

the old price was 29.99. That was over a year ago I believe.
The regular price is 39.99. I do not recall it being on sale.
Richard


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I finally got a gift certificate to use to buy Blind Square.  I thought it had 
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Blind Square price?

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I finally got a gift certificate to use to buy Blind Square.  I thought it had 
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Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

   Hi, I have both blind square and nearby.  For some reason due to my 
stupity, I can't get nearby to announce anything while out and about.  I 
have many things checked but, when I leave the house, things go silent.  Can 
someone maybe explain why this is?  Thanks so much, Andy


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First, let me say that both applications are very good, but if I could
only have one, it would be nearby explorer, no question. There are a
few reasons, first, it offers turn by turn guidance, second, it's much
more responsive in speaking updates, for example, when you change
direction, unless you disable it, your new direction of travel and
upcoming street are automatically spoken within a few seconds.
Original message:

Hi folks,
I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone. But none of them is specifically 
designed with the blind users in mind. Nonetheless, apps like maps, 
Navigan, and google maps are very accessible. But if you want to get only 
one app designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose? 
If you have to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for 
example, which of the two would you choose and why?

Cheers,
Cris
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RE: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks Mike,
The points you raised are very important.
Regards,
Cris

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why?

First, let me say that both applications are very good, but if I could only 
have one, it would be nearby explorer, no question. There are a few reasons, 
first, it offers turn by turn guidance, second, it's much more responsive in 
speaking updates, for example, when you change direction, unless you disable 
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within a few seconds.
Original message:
> Hi folks,
> I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone. But none of them is 
> specifically designed with the blind users in mind. Nonetheless, apps 
> like maps, Navigan, and google maps are very accessible. But if you 
> want to get only one app designed with the blind users in mind, which 
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> nearby explorer, for example, which of the two would you choose and why?
> Cheers,
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Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Mike Arrigo]

First, let me say that both applications are very good, but if I could 
only have one, it would be nearby explorer, no question. There are a 
few reasons, first, it offers turn by turn guidance, second, it's much 
more responsive in speaking updates, for example, when you change 
direction, unless you disable it, your new direction of travel and 
upcoming street are automatically spoken within a few seconds.

Original message:

Hi folks,
I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone. But none of them is 
specifically designed with the blind users in mind. Nonetheless, apps 
like maps, Navigan, and google maps are very accessible. But if you 
want to get only one app designed with the blind users in mind, which 
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nearby explorer, for example, which of the two would you choose and why?

Cheers,
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RE: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Chip Orange]

No doubt I would choose anything over  Blind Square.  It uses map data for 
near-by intersections and road names from a free map service named Open Street 
Maps, and it’s quite inaccurate for my area, and for areas which are currently 
undergoing various updates or construction.  BS only gets an update of these 
free maps once a year, and free gets you what you pay for of course.

 

Also, BS requires you have a cell data signal for it to work, and if you don’t, 
then it doesn’t; while NE has downloadable maps.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

 

Hi folks,

I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically 
designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps, Navigan,  
and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only one app 
designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose? If you have 
to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for example, which of the 
two would you choose and why?

Cheers,

 

Cris

 

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Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Feliciano Godoy]

BlindSquare simultaneously used with Google maps hands-down. I do not like 
nearby explore, although I have set it to use foursquare maps, it does not 
provide me with the points of interest that BlindSquare provides me with. I 
also feel thatBlindSquare it's more intuitive.

Regards,
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On Dec 31, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
<gera1...@gmail.com<mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Buying credit is only required for Blindsquare's voice commands; other than 
that, it works great having bought"it!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

El 31/12/2016, a las 11:18 a.m., Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> escribió:

Thanks David and Richard,
I am under the impression that one need to constantly buy credit to use Blind 
Square. Of course my impression could be wrong. But if it is correct, I am not 
in favor of subscription based or credit based apps.  But as Richard said, the 
turn by turn problem can be solved by launching another GPS app.
I like to hear more opinions before I decide which one I would choose.
Cheers,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tseng
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
why?

They're not the same. If you want an all in one app for the blind, go with 
Nearby Explorer. Blind Square does not do turn by turn though arguably its 
point of interest database is larger. It might make more sense to compare with 
something like Seeing Eye.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

That depends on what you want from the app.
Blind Square is great for orientation. It will tell you street names as you get 
to them. You can set it to track a location so as you get closer, it tells you 
the compass direction and distance. It does not give you turn-by-turn 
directions at this time.
However, if you search for a location in Blind Square, you can have it then 
launch a turn-by-turn gps app to get your directions to that location while it 
still speaks the streets as you come to them in the background. I often use 
Blind Square and Google maps that way. It will also launch Navigon, Apple maps, 
and now Seeing Eye GPS.
Nearby explorer is a turn-by-turn app that also speaks the cross streets and 
gives a lot more information that can be customized. I believe its default 
settings are way too talkative and distracting.
Someone else may give a very different answer, but I think if you are happy 
with the GPS apps you have now, adding Blind Square would be the better choice 
right now.
Richard


"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Dec 31, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically 
designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps, Navigan,  
and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only one app 
designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose? If you have 
to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for example, which of the 
two would you choose and why?
Cheers,

Cris

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Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Richard Turner]

That is almost correct. Nearby Explorer only has maps for the United States and 
Canada.
Richard


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On Dec 31, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
<gera1...@gmail.com<mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Buying credit is only required for Blindsquare's voice commands; other than 
that, it works great having bought"it!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

El 31/12/2016, a las 11:18 a.m., Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> escribió:

Thanks David and Richard,
I am under the impression that one need to constantly buy credit to use Blind 
Square. Of course my impression could be wrong. But if it is correct, I am not 
in favor of subscription based or credit based apps.  But as Richard said, the 
turn by turn problem can be solved by launching another GPS app.
I like to hear more opinions before I decide which one I would choose.
Cheers,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tseng
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
why?

They're not the same. If you want an all in one app for the blind, go with 
Nearby Explorer. Blind Square does not do turn by turn though arguably its 
point of interest database is larger. It might make more sense to compare with 
something like Seeing Eye.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

That depends on what you want from the app.
Blind Square is great for orientation. It will tell you street names as you get 
to them. You can set it to track a location so as you get closer, it tells you 
the compass direction and distance. It does not give you turn-by-turn 
directions at this time.
However, if you search for a location in Blind Square, you can have it then 
launch a turn-by-turn gps app to get your directions to that location while it 
still speaks the streets as you come to them in the background. I often use 
Blind Square and Google maps that way. It will also launch Navigon, Apple maps, 
and now Seeing Eye GPS.
Nearby explorer is a turn-by-turn app that also speaks the cross streets and 
gives a lot more information that can be customized. I believe its default 
settings are way too talkative and distracting.
Someone else may give a very different answer, but I think if you are happy 
with the GPS apps you have now, adding Blind Square would be the better choice 
right now.
Richard


"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Dec 31, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically 
designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps, Navigan,  
and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only one app 
designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose? If you have 
to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for example, which of the 
two would you choose and why?
Cheers,

Cris

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Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Buying credit is only required for Blindsquare's voice commands; other than 
that, it works great having bought"it!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

> El 31/12/2016, a las 11:18 a.m., Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> escribió:
> 
> Thanks David and Richard,
> I am under the impression that one need to constantly buy credit to use Blind 
> Square. Of course my impression could be wrong. But if it is correct, I am 
> not in favor of subscription based or credit based apps.  But as Richard 
> said, the turn by turn problem can be solved by launching another GPS app.
> I like to hear more opinions before I decide which one I would choose.
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Tseng
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
> why?
>  
> They're not the same. If you want an all in one app for the blind, go with 
> Nearby Explorer. Blind Square does not do turn by turn though arguably its 
> point of interest database is larger. It might make more sense to compare 
> with something like Seeing Eye.
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
>  
> That depends on what you want from the app.
> Blind Square is great for orientation. It will tell you street names as you 
> get to them. You can set it to track a location so as you get closer, it 
> tells you the compass direction and distance. It does not give you 
> turn-by-turn directions at this time.
> However, if you search for a location in Blind Square, you can have it then 
> launch a turn-by-turn gps app to get your directions to that location while 
> it still speaks the streets as you come to them in the background. I often 
> use Blind Square and Google maps that way. It will also launch Navigon, Apple 
> maps, and now Seeing Eye GPS.
> Nearby explorer is a turn-by-turn app that also speaks the cross streets and 
> gives a lot more information that can be customized. I believe its default 
> settings are way too talkative and distracting.
> Someone else may give a very different answer, but I think if you are happy 
> with the GPS apps you have now, adding Blind Square would be the better 
> choice right now.
> Richard
>  
> 
>  
> "A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"  
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On Dec 31, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically 
> designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps, Navigan, 
>  and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only one app 
> designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose? If you 
> have to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for example, which 
> of the two would you choose and why?
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
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Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Blindsquare sqce it provides data independently of where in the world you're 
located; I heard that Nearby Explorer only works in the US?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

> El 31/12/2016, a las 10:37 a.m., Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> escribió:
> 
> Hi folks,
> I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically 
> designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps, Navigan, 
>  and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only one app 
> designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose? If you 
> have to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for example, which 
> of the two would you choose and why?
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
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Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Richard Turner]

Nearby is impressive and will get better. But, Blind Square does have some 
transit information.
They book in with transit apps. I do not think they have the transit info 
built-in, but I'm not sure.
For an all in one gps app, Nearby is quite good if you have the 4 GB of space.
Richard


A guy walks into a bar. He says, "Ouch

On Dec 31, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Chris,
If you have Navigon, you also are using maps on your phone, not in the cloud.
Nearby Explorer needs over 4 GB of space as you have to download the entire map 
system, you can't just download what you need.
But Blind Square does use a little data and you have to have data coverage for 
that.
Nearby Explorer does just need GPS, no data involved.
Richard


A guy walks into a bar. He says, "Ouch

On Dec 31, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Mary Otten 
<motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you have space on your phone, that ability not to be dependent on your 
cellular company could be a big deal. It certainly was helpful for us last 
summer when we were traveling. There are places where cell phone coverage just 
isn't. If you got good coverage wherever you go, and a decent data plan, then 
maybe it's not a big deal. The downside is you have to download all of the 
maps. There is also an upside. If you are in a city where they have transit map 
coverage, you get that. I don't think blind square has that, does it? I admit 
I'm more familiar with nearby, and am impressed with the work that APH has done 
and continues to do on this app.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for clarifying this Richard.  That makes Blind Square more attractive. I 
do not care about voice commands, or even dictation for that matter.
I was just looking at the description of nearby explorer, and found the fact 
that one can actually download the maps to the phone and avoid using data while 
navigating very attractive.  It is a hard choice to make.

Regards,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
why?


That is completely wrong. The only credits you would need to buy is if you want 
to use the Voice Commands. That is an optional add on feature.
I have never used it.
I am usually in noisy places and don't trust voice commands in those situations.
Richard



"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Dec 31, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks David and Richard,
I am under the impression that one need to constantly buy credit to use Blind 
Square. Of course my impression could be wrong. But if it is correct, I am not 
in favor of subscription based or credit based apps.  But as Richard said, the 
turn by turn problem can be solved by launching another GPS app.
I like to hear more opinions before I decide which one I would choose.
Cheers,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tseng
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
why?

They're not the same. If you want an all in one app for the blind, go with 
Nearby Explorer. Blind Square does not do turn by turn though arguably its 
point of interest database is larger. It might make more sense to compare with 
something like Seeing Eye.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

That depends on what you want from the app.
Blind Square is great for orientation. It will tell you street names as you get 
to them. You can set it to track a location so as you get closer, it tells you 
the compass direction and distance. It does not give you turn-by-turn 
directions at this time.
However, if you search for a location in Blind Square, you can have it then 
launch a turn-by-turn gps app to get your directions to that location while it 
still speaks the streets as you come to them in the background. I often use 
Blind Square and Google maps that way. It will also launch Navigon, Apple maps, 
and now Seeing Eye GPS.
Nearby explorer is a turn-by-turn app that also speaks the cross streets and 
gives a lot more information that can be customized. I believe its default 
settings are w

Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Richard Turner]

Chris,
If you have Navigon, you also are using maps on your phone, not in the cloud.
Nearby Explorer needs over 4 GB of space as you have to download the entire map 
system, you can't just download what you need.
But Blind Square does use a little data and you have to have data coverage for 
that.
Nearby Explorer does just need GPS, no data involved.
Richard


A guy walks into a bar. He says, "Ouch

On Dec 31, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Mary Otten 
<motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you have space on your phone, that ability not to be dependent on your 
cellular company could be a big deal. It certainly was helpful for us last 
summer when we were traveling. There are places where cell phone coverage just 
isn't. If you got good coverage wherever you go, and a decent data plan, then 
maybe it's not a big deal. The downside is you have to download all of the 
maps. There is also an upside. If you are in a city where they have transit map 
coverage, you get that. I don't think blind square has that, does it? I admit 
I'm more familiar with nearby, and am impressed with the work that APH has done 
and continues to do on this app.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for clarifying this Richard.  That makes Blind Square more attractive. I 
do not care about voice commands, or even dictation for that matter.
I was just looking at the description of nearby explorer, and found the fact 
that one can actually download the maps to the phone and avoid using data while 
navigating very attractive.  It is a hard choice to make.

Regards,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
why?


That is completely wrong. The only credits you would need to buy is if you want 
to use the Voice Commands. That is an optional add on feature.
I have never used it.
I am usually in noisy places and don't trust voice commands in those situations.
Richard



"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Dec 31, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks David and Richard,
I am under the impression that one need to constantly buy credit to use Blind 
Square. Of course my impression could be wrong. But if it is correct, I am not 
in favor of subscription based or credit based apps.  But as Richard said, the 
turn by turn problem can be solved by launching another GPS app.
I like to hear more opinions before I decide which one I would choose.
Cheers,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tseng
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
why?

They're not the same. If you want an all in one app for the blind, go with 
Nearby Explorer. Blind Square does not do turn by turn though arguably its 
point of interest database is larger. It might make more sense to compare with 
something like Seeing Eye.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

That depends on what you want from the app.
Blind Square is great for orientation. It will tell you street names as you get 
to them. You can set it to track a location so as you get closer, it tells you 
the compass direction and distance. It does not give you turn-by-turn 
directions at this time.
However, if you search for a location in Blind Square, you can have it then 
launch a turn-by-turn gps app to get your directions to that location while it 
still speaks the streets as you come to them in the background. I often use 
Blind Square and Google maps that way. It will also launch Navigon, Apple maps, 
and now Seeing Eye GPS.
Nearby explorer is a turn-by-turn app that also speaks the cross streets and 
gives a lot more information that can be customized. I believe its default 
settings are way too talkative and distracting.
Someone else may give a very different answer, but I think if you are happy 
with the GPS apps you have now, adding Blind Square would be the better choice 
right now.
Richard


"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Dec 31, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@h

Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Mary Otten]

If you have space on your phone, that ability not to be dependent on your 
cellular company could be a big deal. It certainly was helpful for us last 
summer when we were traveling. There are places where cell phone coverage just 
isn't. If you got good coverage wherever you go, and a decent data plan, then 
maybe it's not a big deal. The downside is you have to download all of the 
maps. There is also an upside. If you are in a city where they have transit map 
coverage, you get that. I don't think blind square has that, does it? I admit 
I'm more familiar with nearby, and am impressed with the work that APH has done 
and continues to do on this app.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for clarifying this Richard.  That makes Blind Square more attractive. 
> I do not care about voice commands, or even dictation for that matter. 
> I was just looking at the description of nearby explorer, and found the fact 
> that one can actually download the maps to the phone and avoid using data 
> while navigating very attractive.  It is a hard choice to make.
>  
> Regards,
> 
> Cris
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
> why?
>  
>  
> That is completely wrong. The only credits you would need to buy is if you 
> want to use the Voice Commands. That is an optional add on feature.
> I have never used it.
> I am usually in noisy places and don't trust voice commands in those 
> situations.
> Richard
>  
> 
> 
> 
> "A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"  
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On Dec 31, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks David and Richard,
> I am under the impression that one need to constantly buy credit to use Blind 
> Square. Of course my impression could be wrong. But if it is correct, I am 
> not in favor of subscription based or credit based apps.  But as Richard 
> said, the turn by turn problem can be solved by launching another GPS app.
> I like to hear more opinions before I decide which one I would choose.
> Cheers,
>  
> Cris
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Tseng
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
> why?
>  
> They're not the same. If you want an all in one app for the blind, go with 
> Nearby Explorer. Blind Square does not do turn by turn though arguably its 
> point of interest database is larger. It might make more sense to compare 
> with something like Seeing Eye.
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
>  
> That depends on what you want from the app.
> Blind Square is great for orientation. It will tell you street names as you 
> get to them. You can set it to track a location so as you get closer, it 
> tells you the compass direction and distance. It does not give you 
> turn-by-turn directions at this time.
> However, if you search for a location in Blind Square, you can have it then 
> launch a turn-by-turn gps app to get your directions to that location while 
> it still speaks the streets as you come to them in the background. I often 
> use Blind Square and Google maps that way. It will also launch Navigon, Apple 
> maps, and now Seeing Eye GPS.
> Nearby explorer is a turn-by-turn app that also speaks the cross streets and 
> gives a lot more information that can be customized. I believe its default 
> settings are way too talkative and distracting.
> Someone else may give a very different answer, but I think if you are happy 
> with the GPS apps you have now, adding Blind Square would be the better 
> choice right now.
> Richard
>  
> 
>  
> "A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"  
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On Dec 31, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically 
> designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps, Navigan, 
>  and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only one app 
> designed with the blind users in mind, which 

RE: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks for clarifying this Richard.  That makes Blind Square more attractive. I 
do not care about voice commands, or even dictation for that matter.
I was just looking at the description of nearby explorer, and found the fact 
that one can actually download the maps to the phone and avoid using data while 
navigating very attractive.  It is a hard choice to make.

Regards,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
why?


That is completely wrong. The only credits you would need to buy is if you want 
to use the Voice Commands. That is an optional add on feature.
I have never used it.
I am usually in noisy places and don't trust voice commands in those situations.
Richard



"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Dec 31, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks David and Richard,
I am under the impression that one need to constantly buy credit to use Blind 
Square. Of course my impression could be wrong. But if it is correct, I am not 
in favor of subscription based or credit based apps.  But as Richard said, the 
turn by turn problem can be solved by launching another GPS app.
I like to hear more opinions before I decide which one I would choose.
Cheers,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tseng
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
why?

They're not the same. If you want an all in one app for the blind, go with 
Nearby Explorer. Blind Square does not do turn by turn though arguably its 
point of interest database is larger. It might make more sense to compare with 
something like Seeing Eye.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

That depends on what you want from the app.
Blind Square is great for orientation. It will tell you street names as you get 
to them. You can set it to track a location so as you get closer, it tells you 
the compass direction and distance. It does not give you turn-by-turn 
directions at this time.
However, if you search for a location in Blind Square, you can have it then 
launch a turn-by-turn gps app to get your directions to that location while it 
still speaks the streets as you come to them in the background. I often use 
Blind Square and Google maps that way. It will also launch Navigon, Apple maps, 
and now Seeing Eye GPS.
Nearby explorer is a turn-by-turn app that also speaks the cross streets and 
gives a lot more information that can be customized. I believe its default 
settings are way too talkative and distracting.
Someone else may give a very different answer, but I think if you are happy 
with the GPS apps you have now, adding Blind Square would be the better choice 
right now.
Richard


"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Dec 31, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically 
designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps, Navigan,  
and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only one app 
designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose? If you have 
to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for example, which of the 
two would you choose and why?
Cheers,

Cris

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Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Richard Turner]

That is completely wrong. The only credits you would need to buy is if you want 
to use the Voice Commands. That is an optional add on feature.
I have never used it.
I am usually in noisy places and don't trust voice commands in those situations.
Richard



"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Dec 31, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks David and Richard,
I am under the impression that one need to constantly buy credit to use Blind 
Square. Of course my impression could be wrong. But if it is correct, I am not 
in favor of subscription based or credit based apps.  But as Richard said, the 
turn by turn problem can be solved by launching another GPS app.
I like to hear more opinions before I decide which one I would choose.
Cheers,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tseng
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
why?

They're not the same. If you want an all in one app for the blind, go with 
Nearby Explorer. Blind Square does not do turn by turn though arguably its 
point of interest database is larger. It might make more sense to compare with 
something like Seeing Eye.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

That depends on what you want from the app.
Blind Square is great for orientation. It will tell you street names as you get 
to them. You can set it to track a location so as you get closer, it tells you 
the compass direction and distance. It does not give you turn-by-turn 
directions at this time.
However, if you search for a location in Blind Square, you can have it then 
launch a turn-by-turn gps app to get your directions to that location while it 
still speaks the streets as you come to them in the background. I often use 
Blind Square and Google maps that way. It will also launch Navigon, Apple maps, 
and now Seeing Eye GPS.
Nearby explorer is a turn-by-turn app that also speaks the cross streets and 
gives a lot more information that can be customized. I believe its default 
settings are way too talkative and distracting.
Someone else may give a very different answer, but I think if you are happy 
with the GPS apps you have now, adding Blind Square would be the better choice 
right now.
Richard


"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Dec 31, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically 
designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps, Navigan,  
and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only one app 
designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose? If you have 
to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for example, which of the 
two would you choose and why?
Cheers,

Cris

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RE: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Cris Ali]

Thanks David and Richard,
I am under the impression that one need to constantly buy credit to use Blind 
Square. Of course my impression could be wrong. But if it is correct, I am not 
in favor of subscription based or credit based apps.  But as Richard said, the 
turn by turn problem can be solved by launching another GPS app.
I like to hear more opinions before I decide which one I would choose.
Cheers,

Cris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Tseng
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and 
why?

They're not the same. If you want an all in one app for the blind, go with 
Nearby Explorer. Blind Square does not do turn by turn though arguably its 
point of interest database is larger. It might make more sense to compare with 
something like Seeing Eye.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

That depends on what you want from the app.
Blind Square is great for orientation. It will tell you street names as you get 
to them. You can set it to track a location so as you get closer, it tells you 
the compass direction and distance. It does not give you turn-by-turn 
directions at this time.
However, if you search for a location in Blind Square, you can have it then 
launch a turn-by-turn gps app to get your directions to that location while it 
still speaks the streets as you come to them in the background. I often use 
Blind Square and Google maps that way. It will also launch Navigon, Apple maps, 
and now Seeing Eye GPS.
Nearby explorer is a turn-by-turn app that also speaks the cross streets and 
gives a lot more information that can be customized. I believe its default 
settings are way too talkative and distracting.
Someone else may give a very different answer, but I think if you are happy 
with the GPS apps you have now, adding Blind Square would be the better choice 
right now.
Richard


"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Dec 31, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically 
designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps, Navigan,  
and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only one app 
designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose? If you have 
to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for example, which of the 
two would you choose and why?
Cheers,

Cris

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Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[David Tseng]

They're not the same. If you want an all in one app for the blind, go with
Nearby Explorer. Blind Square does not do turn by turn though arguably its
point of interest database is larger. It might make more sense to compare
with something like Seeing Eye.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 8:53 AM Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
wrote:

>
> That depends on what you want from the app.
> Blind Square is great for orientation. It will tell you street names as
> you get to them. You can set it to track a location so as you get closer,
> it tells you the compass direction and distance. It does not give you
> turn-by-turn directions at this time.
> However, if you search for a location in Blind Square, you can have it
> then launch a turn-by-turn gps app to get your directions to that location
> while it still speaks the streets as you come to them in the background. I
> often use Blind Square and Google maps that way. It will also launch
> Navigon, Apple maps, and now Seeing Eye GPS.
> Nearby explorer is a turn-by-turn app that also speaks the cross streets
> and gives a lot more information that can be customized. I believe its
> default settings are way too talkative and distracting.
> Someone else may give a very different answer, but I think if you are
> happy with the GPS apps you have now, adding Blind Square would be the
> better choice right now.
> Richard
>
>
>
> "A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 31, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
> I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically
> designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps,
> Navigan,  and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only
> one app designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose?
> If you have to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for
> example, which of the two would you choose and why?
> Cheers,
>
> Cris
>
>
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Re: which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Richard Turner]

That depends on what you want from the app.
Blind Square is great for orientation. It will tell you street names as you get 
to them. You can set it to track a location so as you get closer, it tells you 
the compass direction and distance. It does not give you turn-by-turn 
directions at this time.
However, if you search for a location in Blind Square, you can have it then 
launch a turn-by-turn gps app to get your directions to that location while it 
still speaks the streets as you come to them in the background. I often use 
Blind Square and Google maps that way. It will also launch Navigon, Apple maps, 
and now Seeing Eye GPS.
Nearby explorer is a turn-by-turn app that also speaks the cross streets and 
gives a lot more information that can be customized. I believe its default 
settings are way too talkative and distracting.
Someone else may give a very different answer, but I think if you are happy 
with the GPS apps you have now, adding Blind Square would be the better choice 
right now.
Richard



"A guy walks into a bar and says 'ouch!'"
(Sent from my iPod 6)
"By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




On Dec 31, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Cris Ali 
<filasti...@hotmail.com<mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi folks,
I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically 
designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps, Navigan,  
and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only one app 
designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose? If you have 
to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for example, which of the 
two would you choose and why?
Cheers,

Cris


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which one would you choose, Blind square or nearby explorer and why?

[Cris Ali]

Hi folks,
I have quite few GPS apps on my iPhone.  But none of them is specifically 
designed with the blind users in mind.  Nonetheless, apps like maps, Navigan,  
and google maps are very accessible.  But if you want to get only one app 
designed with the blind users in mind, which one would you choose? If you have 
to choose between blind square and nearby explorer, for example, which of the 
two would you choose and why?
Cheers,

Cris

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RE: Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Michael,

There is more to bluetooth lag than the version of bluetooth. First of all, you 
may not percieve any lag with some of your devices the way you use it, but the 
lag is there in all bluetooth devices. Secondly, I can say from my own 
experience that I have had a Plantronics relatively high-end stereo headset 
which used Bluetooth 4.1 and it had absolutely horrible lag whereas I have a 
bluetooth speakerphone (I think it's a Philipps or Logitech) and it is 
Bluetooth 2.1 and there is almost no lag. Bluetooth is up to 4.2 and Bluetooth 
5.0 is rolling out, maybe some day they'll figure it out, but for now there 
always is some lag and from some of the early reviews of the Apple Airpods or 
some of the new Beats headsets which probably are the most advanced bluetooth 
earbuds/headsets out there the lag still exists a little bit as well.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

I very much enjoy my Trekz Titaniums for travel situations. One thing to really 
be careful of when choosing headsets is to make certain they use the latest 
possible Bluetooth version. The Titaniums use 4.1 and I don't experience any 
lag whatsoever with Voiceover use. Same with my new Aukey speaker. I made 
damned certain it used 4.1 and there's no lag. My Logitech UE Boomb sits unused 
despite being durrable, having a great super battery and sounding great due to 
the annoying lag. It uses version 4 of Bluetooth. I didn't think to check 
before purchase.

>From what I hear, bluetooth version 5 is going to be much better. It might 
>finally due away with lag difficulties with Bluetooth devices which use it. 
>However, it may be a while before accessories come out making use of it. I'm 
>interested to see how this W1 chip performs from Apple. Hopefully, it 
>addresses lag and connectivity issues. I'm hoping to either get a pair of 
>Airpods or wait for a third-party company to come up with a headset using the 
>W1 technology. 

Michael Feir

Twitter: mfeir
Skype: michael-feir


> On Oct 24, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Shaf Patel <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the new model is fantastic. I have it paired to my Watch and 
> Phone (it sucks because it's bluetooth), but it's really useful.
> 
>> On 10/24/2016 8:39 AM, kg7...@juno.com wrote:
>> Hi Paul, I use the After Shox and really like them.  I understand the 
>> new titanium model is even lighter, and more durable as well.
>> 
>> Have a good one:
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> This Man Cured His Nasty Nail Fungus in 10 Minutes adclk.co 
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/580dc358d5a6d43582e76st02duc
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Re: Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

[Christopher Chaltain]

I agree the later the bluetooth spec the better, but I'm not sure the 
lag issue is just due to the version of bluetooth supported on your 
headphones. I have no lag on my Bluez from Aftershox, and they're using 
bluetooth technology from a few years ago.


On 24/10/16 05:24, Michael Feir wrote:

I very much enjoy my Trekz Titaniums for travel situations. One thing to really 
be careful of when choosing headsets is to make certain they use the latest 
possible Bluetooth version. The Titaniums use 4.1 and I don't experience any 
lag whatsoever with Voiceover use. Same with my new Aukey speaker. I made 
damned certain it used 4.1 and there's no lag. My Logitech UE Boomb sits unused 
despite being durrable, having a great super battery and sounding great due to 
the annoying lag. It uses version 4 of Bluetooth. I didn't think to check 
before purchase.

From what I hear, bluetooth version 5 is going to be much better. It might 
finally due away with lag difficulties with Bluetooth devices which use it. 
However, it may be a while before accessories come out making use of it. I'm 
interested to see how this W1 chip performs from Apple. Hopefully, it addresses 
lag and connectivity issues. I'm hoping to either get a pair of Airpods or wait 
for a third-party company to come up with a headset using the W1 technology.

Michael Feir

Twitter: mfeir
Skype: michael-feir



On Oct 24, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Shaf Patel  wrote:

Yes, the new model is fantastic. I have it paired to my Watch and Phone
(it sucks because it's bluetooth), but it's really useful.


On 10/24/2016 8:39 AM, kg7...@juno.com wrote:
Hi Paul, I use the After Shox and really like them.  I understand the new
titanium model is even lighter, and more durable as well.

Have a good one:
John


This Man Cured His Nasty Nail Fungus in 10 Minutes
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Re: Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

[Shaf Patel]

Problem with the AirPods is they cover your ears, which isn't so good
for us blind folks if we're traveling etc. I have the same headset as
you, and I get around a quarter second lag. What I dislike about
Bluetooth headsets is that you can only have one device playing through
the headset at once. I hope they improve that in new Bluetooth technologies.

On 10/24/2016 11:24 AM, Michael Feir wrote:
> I very much enjoy my Trekz Titaniums for travel situations. One thing to 
> really be careful of when choosing headsets is to make certain they use the 
> latest possible Bluetooth version. The Titaniums use 4.1 and I don't 
> experience any lag whatsoever with Voiceover use. Same with my new Aukey 
> speaker. I made damned certain it used 4.1 and there's no lag. My Logitech UE 
> Boomb sits unused despite being durrable, having a great super battery and 
> sounding great due to the annoying lag. It uses version 4 of Bluetooth. I 
> didn't think to check before purchase.
> 
> From what I hear, bluetooth version 5 is going to be much better. It might 
> finally due away with lag difficulties with Bluetooth devices which use it. 
> However, it may be a while before accessories come out making use of it. I'm 
> interested to see how this W1 chip performs from Apple. Hopefully, it 
> addresses lag and connectivity issues. I'm hoping to either get a pair of 
> Airpods or wait for a third-party company to come up with a headset using the 
> W1 technology. 
> 
> Michael Feir
> 
> Twitter: mfeir
> Skype: michael-feir
> 
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Shaf Patel  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the new model is fantastic. I have it paired to my Watch and Phone
>> (it sucks because it's bluetooth), but it's really useful.
>>
>>> On 10/24/2016 8:39 AM, kg7...@juno.com wrote:
>>> Hi Paul, I use the After Shox and really like them.  I understand the new
>>> titanium model is even lighter, and more durable as well.
>>>
>>> Have a good one:
>>> John
>>>
>>> 
>>> This Man Cured His Nasty Nail Fungus in 10 Minutes
>>> adclk.co
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/580dc358d5a6d43582e76st02duc
>>>
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Re: Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

[Michael Feir]

I very much enjoy my Trekz Titaniums for travel situations. One thing to really 
be careful of when choosing headsets is to make certain they use the latest 
possible Bluetooth version. The Titaniums use 4.1 and I don't experience any 
lag whatsoever with Voiceover use. Same with my new Aukey speaker. I made 
damned certain it used 4.1 and there's no lag. My Logitech UE Boomb sits unused 
despite being durrable, having a great super battery and sounding great due to 
the annoying lag. It uses version 4 of Bluetooth. I didn't think to check 
before purchase.

>From what I hear, bluetooth version 5 is going to be much better. It might 
>finally due away with lag difficulties with Bluetooth devices which use it. 
>However, it may be a while before accessories come out making use of it. I'm 
>interested to see how this W1 chip performs from Apple. Hopefully, it 
>addresses lag and connectivity issues. I'm hoping to either get a pair of 
>Airpods or wait for a third-party company to come up with a headset using the 
>W1 technology. 

Michael Feir

Twitter: mfeir
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> On Oct 24, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Shaf Patel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, the new model is fantastic. I have it paired to my Watch and Phone
> (it sucks because it's bluetooth), but it's really useful.
> 
>> On 10/24/2016 8:39 AM, kg7...@juno.com wrote:
>> Hi Paul, I use the After Shox and really like them.  I understand the new
>> titanium model is even lighter, and more durable as well.
>> 
>> Have a good one:
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> This Man Cured His Nasty Nail Fungus in 10 Minutes
>> adclk.co
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/580dc358d5a6d43582e76st02duc
>> 
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Re: Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

[Shaf Patel]

Yes, the new model is fantastic. I have it paired to my Watch and Phone
(it sucks because it's bluetooth), but it's really useful.

On 10/24/2016 8:39 AM, kg7...@juno.com wrote:
> Hi Paul, I use the After Shox and really like them.  I understand the new
> titanium model is even lighter, and more durable as well.
> 
> Have a good one:
> John
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> This Man Cured His Nasty Nail Fungus in 10 Minutes
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Re: Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

[kg7fa2]

Hi Paul, I use the After Shox and really like them.  I understand the new
titanium model is even lighter, and more durable as well.

Have a good one:
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Re: Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

[Christopher Chaltain]

Check out https://aftershokz.com/ I have their original Bluez 
headphones, and I'm very happy with them.


On 23/10/16 09:43, Paul Hunt wrote:

Hello everybody. I just purchased Blind Square and  need a bluethooth 
compatible pair of bone conducting headphones. Do you have recommendations for 
me?
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Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

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Hello everybody. I just purchased Blind Square and  need a bluethooth 
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Re: Blind Square in Italy?

[Andrea Roveretto]

yes ofcourse it wil!

I live in italy and use it.



Il 19/10/2016 18:23, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn ha scritto:


Will Blind Squarework in Italy?

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Blind Square in Italy?

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Will Blind Square work in Italy?

 

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print out tactile maps with Blind Square?

[Ryan Mann]

Hello.  I had somebody ask me if there was a way to print tactile maps
with blind square.  Is this possible?  The only way I would know to do
this if some how a Braille embosser could be connected to the iPhone.
I saw nothing in the user guide for doing this.

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RE: Blind Square and Four Square

[Ron]

Hi Chip,

 

Something that probably wouldn’t help you right now but, the software 
engineering students at McGill university in Montreal have put together an app 
using Google maps.  Right now it is still only for the Montreal area as a test 
but is going across Canada in the next month or so.  It is called “Autour” 
which is the French word for “Around”, but the app is in English.  I very much 
like its radar mode witch, with off ear headphone such as the Treks give a 
constant beep or click going around 360º with the user at the center point.  
This is on request.  Also, if the phone is lifted horizontally, it 
automatically goes into beam mode which will announce what’s around and where 
as the user turns the phone around.

 

The ideal way to wear it is in a pouch around the neck with the phone pointing 
down and the screen away from the chest.  When the phone is lifted, the top of 
the phone becomes the direction of the points of interest.  If the user doesn’t 
like the click or beep of the radar mode, it can be turned down so low you 
can’t hear it but the voice announcing the point of interest comes from its 
direction.  So, if it announces a bus stop that is on your left, the voice 
announcing it comes from the left and so on.

 

I think it is an app that has a lot of potential.  I have been testing this app 
for the professor working with the students.  I will ask him if he plans to 
open it to all of North America anytime soon and if there are any plans of 
going worldwide.

 

Don’t know if it is easier to find now but it was a bit of a problem finding it 
in the app store.  In case you would like to look at it, try Autour in the 
search field and, if you don’t find it, you will by entering McGill in the 
field and going through all the apps until you find it. 

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

 

I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google 
map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I 
wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS receiver).  
Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if you have a 
high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so charging a little 
something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had to pay anything.

 

Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did in 
my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a big 
improvement.

 

 

Chip

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square

 

In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away from 
the actual location.

Andy

 

From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>  

Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns which 
may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to allow people 
who are blind to submit corrections somehow.

 

Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
business info.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

 

Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a place 
if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Blind Square and Four Square

 

What are the advantages of using these two apps together?

 


 
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RE: Blind Square and Four Square

[Chip Orange]

Hi Wayne,

Well, I find you can get just as good menu info (including from Four Square) 
from the free app "All Access".

Chip


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square

The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you can
access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway menu
I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go to
other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are, whereas
Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.

Wayne

On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some company
> like that (at least they did for their other braille note products).
>
>
>
> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a yearly fee, and
> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>
> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ari
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google
> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I
> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS
> receiver).  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if
> you have a high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so
> charging a little something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had
> to pay anything.
>
>
>
> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did
> in my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a
> big improvement.
>
>
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away
> from the actual location.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>
>
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns
> which may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to
> allow people who are blind to submit corrections somehow.
>
>
>
> Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square
> business info.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4
> square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a
> place if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much
> about it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> What are the advantages of using these two apps together?
>
>
>
>
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Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[Wayne Merritt]

Anytime. Also, the Tips button can often have good information too.
This pulls tips from FourSquare and can vary depending on what people
include; anything from, "This place sucks and has horrible service,"
to, "I loved the tacos!" If you want to get an idea of what's good or
find some hidden goodness in the menu or restaurant atmosphere, then
the tips can be very helpful.

Have fun,
Wayne

On 7/19/16, Daniel L. Gervais <daniel.l.gerv...@inspection.gc.ca> wrote:
> Awesome, thanks Wayne.  It is starting to make a little more sense then.
>  when navigating various places, I kept hearing VoiceOver say "Tip" and
> wondered what the hell it was referring to.  While exploring one of the
> restaurant's summary page, while looking for the infamous "Menu" button,
> I came across the "Tip" button, and made the connection.  So if I
> navigate restaurants and VoiceOver says "Menu", then I'll know that this
> restaurant has a menu.
>
> Thanks again and have a wonderful day!
>
>
> From: Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
> To:   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: 2016/07/19 9:33 AM
> Subject:  Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> Greetings. You got it. Once you bring up the place summary screen,
> which has information such as the address, phone number, and buttons
> for various things like the website, tips from FourSquare, and so
> forth; keep swiping through and there will be a Menu button. Once you
> activate this after a short delay the menu will come up. To get back
> to the place summary screen hit the back button in the upper left
> corner. If you like the restaurant, you can toggle the Favorite button
> on in the place summary screen. There's a lot of information on the
> place summary screen so it pays to go through and explore. Also, if
> you do a search for restaurants, when going through the search
> results, BlindSquare will announce if there is a menu for a
> restaurant. If there's not a menu then it will not be announced.
>
> Good luck,
> Wayne
>
> On 7/19/16, Daniel L. Gervais <daniel.l.gerv...@inspection.gc.ca>
> wrote:
>> Hi Wayne,
>>
>> Quick question, how do you find the menus through BlindSquare?  I am
>> assuming that you would double tap on the place within BlindSquare
> and
>> that there would be a button within the restaurant summary page that
>> would say "Menu" or something?
>>
>>
>> From:Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
>> To:  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Date:2016/07/18 5:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>>
>> The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you
> can
>> access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
>> BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
>> what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway
> menu
>> I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
>> restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
>> pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go
> to
>> other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
>> menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
>> functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
>> is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are,
> whereas
>> Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
>> BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some
>> company
>>> like that (at least they did for their other braille note
> products).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a
> yearly
>> fee, and
>>> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>>>
>>> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of englishride...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
&

Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Awesome, thanks Wayne.  It is starting to make a little more sense then.
 when navigating various places, I kept hearing VoiceOver say "Tip" and
wondered what the hell it was referring to.  While exploring one of the
restaurant's summary page, while looking for the infamous "Menu" button,
I came across the "Tip" button, and made the connection.  So if I
navigate restaurants and VoiceOver says "Menu", then I'll know that this
restaurant has a menu.

Thanks again and have a wonderful day!


From:   Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date:   2016/07/19 9:33 AM
Subject:Re: Blind Square and Four Square

Greetings. You got it. Once you bring up the place summary screen,
which has information such as the address, phone number, and buttons
for various things like the website, tips from FourSquare, and so
forth; keep swiping through and there will be a Menu button. Once you
activate this after a short delay the menu will come up. To get back
to the place summary screen hit the back button in the upper left
corner. If you like the restaurant, you can toggle the Favorite button
on in the place summary screen. There's a lot of information on the
place summary screen so it pays to go through and explore. Also, if
you do a search for restaurants, when going through the search
results, BlindSquare will announce if there is a menu for a
restaurant. If there's not a menu then it will not be announced.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 7/19/16, Daniel L. Gervais <daniel.l.gerv...@inspection.gc.ca>
wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
>
> Quick question, how do you find the menus through BlindSquare?  I am
> assuming that you would double tap on the place within BlindSquare
and
> that there would be a button within the restaurant summary page that
> would say "Menu" or something?
>
>
> From: Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
> To:   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date:     2016/07/18 5:45 PM
> Subject:  Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you
can
> access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
> BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
> what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway
menu
> I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
> restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
> pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go
to
> other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
> menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
> functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
> is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are,
whereas
> Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
> BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some
> company
>> like that (at least they did for their other braille note
products).
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a
yearly
> fee, and
>> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>>
>> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of englishride...@gmail.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>>
>>
>>
>> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ari
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which
used
> Google
>> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely
> available (I
>> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS
>> receiver).  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app
> developer if
>> you have a high enough volume of data queries, but it was very
small,
> so
>> charging a little something for the app should easily cover it.  I
> never had
>> to pay anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data
> (I did
>> in my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it
> would be a
>> big improvement.

Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[Wayne Merritt]

Greetings. You got it. Once you bring up the place summary screen,
which has information such as the address, phone number, and buttons
for various things like the website, tips from FourSquare, and so
forth; keep swiping through and there will be a Menu button. Once you
activate this after a short delay the menu will come up. To get back
to the place summary screen hit the back button in the upper left
corner. If you like the restaurant, you can toggle the Favorite button
on in the place summary screen. There's a lot of information on the
place summary screen so it pays to go through and explore. Also, if
you do a search for restaurants, when going through the search
results, BlindSquare will announce if there is a menu for a
restaurant. If there's not a menu then it will not be announced.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 7/19/16, Daniel L. Gervais <daniel.l.gerv...@inspection.gc.ca> wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
>
> Quick question, how do you find the menus through BlindSquare?  I am
> assuming that you would double tap on the place within BlindSquare and
> that there would be a button within the restaurant summary page that
> would say "Menu" or something?
>
>
> From: Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
> To:   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: 2016/07/18 5:45 PM
> Subject:  Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you can
> access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
> BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
> what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway menu
> I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
> restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
> pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go to
> other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
> menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
> functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
> is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are, whereas
> Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
> BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some
> company
>> like that (at least they did for their other braille note products).
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a yearly
> fee, and
>> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>>
>> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of englishride...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>>
>>
>>
>> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ari
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used
> Google
>> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely
> available (I
>> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS
>> receiver).  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app
> developer if
>> you have a high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small,
> so
>> charging a little something for the app should easily cover it.  I
> never had
>> to pay anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data
> (I did
>> in my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it
> would be a
>> big improvement.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>>
>>
>>
>> In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile
> away
>> from the actual location.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2

Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Hi Wayne,

Quick question, how do you find the menus through BlindSquare?  I am
assuming that you would double tap on the place within BlindSquare and
that there would be a button within the restaurant summary page that
would say "Menu" or something?


From:   Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date:   2016/07/18 5:45 PM
Subject:    Re: Blind Square and Four Square

The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you can
access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway menu
I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go to
other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are, whereas
Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.

Wayne

On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some
company
> like that (at least they did for their other braille note products).
>
>
>
> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a yearly
fee, and
> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>
> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of englishride...@gmail.com 
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ari
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used
Google
> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely
available (I
> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS
> receiver).  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app
developer if
> you have a high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small,
so
> charging a little something for the app should easily cover it.  I
never had
> to pay anything.
>
>
>
> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data
(I did
> in my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it
would be a
> big improvement.
>
>
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile
away
> from the actual location.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>
>
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in
smaller towns
> which may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need
to
> allow people who are blind to submit corrections somehow.
>
>
>
> Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four
square
> business info.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to
have a 4
> square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into
a
> place if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so
don’t know much
> about it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> What are the advantages of using these two apps together?
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[Wayne Merritt]

The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you can
access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway menu
I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go to
other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are, whereas
Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.

Wayne

On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some company
> like that (at least they did for their other braille note products).
>
>
>
> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a yearly fee, and
> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>
> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ari
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google
> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I
> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS
> receiver).  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if
> you have a high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so
> charging a little something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had
> to pay anything.
>
>
>
> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did
> in my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a
> big improvement.
>
>
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away
> from the actual location.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>
>
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns
> which may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to
> allow people who are blind to submit corrections somehow.
>
>
>
> Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square
> business info.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4
> square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a
> place if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much
> about it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> What are the advantages of using these two apps together?
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RE: Blind Square and Four Square

[Chip Orange]

It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some company like 
that (at least they did for their other braille note products).

 

I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a yearly fee, and I 
didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.

However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square

 

Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:

I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google 
map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I 
wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS receiver).  
Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if you have a 
high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so charging a little 
something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had to pay anything.

 

Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did in 
my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a big 
improvement.

 

 

Chip

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square

 

In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away from 
the actual location.

Andy

 

From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>  

Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns which 
may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to allow people 
who are blind to submit corrections somehow.

 

Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
business info.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

 

Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a place 
if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blind Square and Four Square

 

What are the advantages of using these two apps together?

 


 
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Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[englishrider91]

Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google 
> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I 
> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS receiver). 
>  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if you have a 
> high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so charging a 
> little something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had to pay 
> anything.
>  
> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did in 
> my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a big 
> improvement.
>  
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>  
> In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away 
> from the actual location.
> Andy
>  
> From: Chip Orange
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
> And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns 
> which may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to allow 
> people who are blind to submit corrections somehow.
>  
> Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
> business info.
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>  
> Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
> square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a place 
> if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
> it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind Square and Four Square
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[Chip Orange]

I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google 
map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I 
wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS receiver).  
Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if you have a 
high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so charging a little 
something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had to pay anything.

 

Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did in 
my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a big 
improvement.

 

 

Chip

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square

 

In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away from 
the actual location.

Andy

 

From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>  

Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns which 
may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to allow people 
who are blind to submit corrections somehow.

 

Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
business info.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

 

Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a place 
if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blind Square and Four Square

 

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In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away from 
the actual location.
Andy

From: Chip Orange 
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns which 
may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to allow people 
who are blind to submit corrections somehow.

 

Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
business info.

 

Chip

 

 

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Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

 

Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a place 
if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.

 

 

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who are blind to submit corrections somehow.

 

Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
business info.

 

Chip

 

 

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Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a place 
if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.

 

 

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What are the advantages of using these two apps together?

 


 
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Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[Andy Baracco]

None really, unless you are into playing the games.

Andy

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RE: Blind Square and Four Square

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Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
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RE: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Pinky]

Do these headset work with people that are severe hard of hearing and wear 
hearing aids?
Ed

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Hi,

Why not use Blind Square with a bone conduction headset? Your ears are totally 
free to hear your traffic while still hearing Blind Square on both sides. Your 
phone can then be held in any carrier.

Ron & Danvers
 

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Dianne,
Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and 
environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are getting 
information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and this setup has 
worked great for me.

Wayne

On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too 
>> high for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My 
>> problem is that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will 
>> place the phone near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can 
>> truly hear what it is telling me. I am afraid to use my special 
>> Bluetooth device which comes with my hearing aide because, I still 
>> must listen for traffic and what is going on around me. This has been 
>> my issue with most of these navigational programs and devices. . I 
>> work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no longer hae a hand free to 
>> hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>
>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Wayne Merritt]

I like having BlindSquare in one earbud since part of my daily trip
home has me riding on the bus and I don't want to disturb other
passengers. Plus, I can listen to tunes while I'm getting information
from BlindSquare. The problem I have with bone conduction headphones
is most of the ones I have looked at, don't fit my large head. And
they are not adjustable like headphones. I do also take the earbud out
before crossing streets.

As stated earlier though, different strokes for different folks.

Wayne

On 4/8/16, Jim Ruby <j...@blindsea.com> wrote:
> I have to agree, but I just don’t travel as much as I use to in strange
> environments so just can’t justify it for only two to three times a week and
> only if I get off course.. Blind square wor4ks very well for me and along
> with google maps, apple maps and navigin spelled wrong I think I have enough
> options. I will say that having it distinguish what side of the street you
> and or places are on would be great. Wonder if blind square could do this in
> the future?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dianne B. Phelps
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 8:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.
>
>
>
> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too high
> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is that
> I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone near
> enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it is
> telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes with
> my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is going
> on around me. This has been my issue with most of these navigational
> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>
>
>
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RE: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Jim Ruby]

I have to agree, but I just don’t travel as much as I use to in strange 
environments so just can’t justify it for only two to three times a week and 
only if I get off course.. Blind square wor4ks very well for me and along with 
google maps, apple maps and navigin spelled wrong I think I have enough 
options. I will say that having it distinguish what side of the street you and 
or places are on would be great. Wonder if blind square could do this in the 
future?

 

 

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Dianne B. Phelps
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 8:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

 

I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too high for 
this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is that I 
can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone near enough to 
my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it is telling me. I am 
afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes with my hearing aide 
because, I still must listen for traffic and what is going on around me. This 
has been my issue with most of these navigational programs and devices. . I 
work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no longer hae a hand free to hold 
the de ice where I can hear it. 

 

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RE: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

Why not use Blind Square with a bone conduction headset? Your ears are totally 
free to hear your traffic while still hearing Blind Square on both sides. Your 
phone can then be held in any carrier.

Ron & Danvers
 

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Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

Dianne,
Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and 
environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are getting 
information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and this setup has 
worked great for me.

Wayne

On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too 
>> high for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My 
>> problem is that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will 
>> place the phone near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can 
>> truly hear what it is telling me. I am afraid to use my special 
>> Bluetooth device which comes with my hearing aide because, I still 
>> must listen for traffic and what is going on around me. This has been 
>> my issue with most of these navigational programs and devices. . I 
>> work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no longer hae a hand free to 
>> hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Feliciano Godoy]

I didn't like the comfort of those headphones. Great idea though.Regards,
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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> This is why I have the Aftershokz Bluez 2.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.
> 
> Do you have any recommendations? I have looked into this, but haven't 
> purchased one. I like how the trekker breeze has that external speaker. Too 
> bad it doesn't work with the iPhone.
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
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>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Ann Byrne <ann...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> You can purchase a speaker that will clip to your collar or somewhere near 
>> your ear.  This leaves your ears free and the GPS info available.
>> At 07:40 PM 4/7/2016, you wrote:
>>> I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. For safety reasons, i 
>>> remove the ear bud when crossing streets.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
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>>> > On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dianne,
>>> > Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
>>> > environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
>>> > getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
>>> > this setup has worked great for me.
>>> >
>>> > Wayne
>>> >
>>> >> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>>> >>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone >>> 
>>> >>> too high
>>> >>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem 
>>> >>> >>> is
>>> >>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the >>> 
>>> >>> phone
>>> >>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what 
>>> >>> >>> it
>>> >>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which >>> 
>>> >>> comes
>>> >>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and >>> 
>>> >>> what is
>>> >>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these >>> 
>>> >>> navigational
>>> >>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and 
>>> >>> >>> no
>>> >>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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Sendero Seeing Eye GPS V Blind Square.

[Dianne B. Phelps]

Wayne,

 

Thank you for your wonderful suggestion. Unfortunately, my left ear is so
much weaker than my right that splitting the work between two won't work
well for me. I am almost tempted to obtain Those new JAW BONES type
earphones which works on the bone conduction of the sound. I wish I had a
store nearby where I could see those to see if splitting things that way
might work.

 

My left ear took a concussive blow in my accident and I have very little in
my high frequencies, making speech going into that left ear a kind of
garble.

 

Again, I do appreciate the suggestion very much.

 

Dianne B. Phelps

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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Andy Baracco]

This is why I have the Aftershokz Bluez 2.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Feliciano Godoy

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

Do you have any recommendations? I have looked into this, but haven't 
purchased one. I like how the trekker breeze has that external speaker. Too 
bad it doesn't work with the iPhone.


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On Apr 7, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Ann Byrne <ann...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

You can purchase a speaker that will clip to your collar or somewhere near 
your ear.  This leaves your ears free and the GPS info available.

At 07:40 PM 4/7/2016, you wrote:
I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. For safety reasons, i 
remove the ear bud when crossing streets.


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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dianne,
> Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
> environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
> getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
> this setup has worked great for me.
>
> Wayne
>
>> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone 
>>> too high
>>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem 
>>> is
>>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the 
>>> phone
>>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what 
>>> it
>>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which 
>>> comes
>>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and 
>>> what is
>>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these 
>>> navigational
>>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and 
>>> no

>>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>>
>>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Feliciano Godoy]

Do you have any recommendations? I have looked into this, but haven't purchased 
one. I like how the trekker breeze has that external speaker. Too bad it 
doesn't work with the iPhone.  

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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Ann Byrne <ann...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> You can purchase a speaker that will clip to your collar or somewhere near 
> your ear.  This leaves your ears free and the GPS info available.
> At 07:40 PM 4/7/2016, you wrote:
>> I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. For safety reasons, i remove 
>> the ear bud when crossing streets.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates,
>> LIKE ..facebook.com/theblindman12v
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>> > On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dianne,
>> > Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
>> > environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
>> > getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
>> > this setup has worked great for me.
>> >
>> > Wayne
>> >
>> >> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>> >>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too 
>> >>> high
>> >>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is
>> >>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone
>> >>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it
>> >>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes
>> >>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is
>> >>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these 
>> >>> navigational
>> >>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
>> >>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>> >>>
>> >>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
>> >>>
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