RE: Mbraille question

2022-01-16 Thread richardr_turner
Are you using contracted braille?

 

I’d turn off speak characters.

 

I use away mode with contracted braille and only have words being echoed.

 

You also want to check the setting about how much of the display the app is 
using.

I don’t remember exactly what it says, but you may be getting slightly out of 
the ideal area for writing.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 2:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Mbraille question

 

Hi Richard.  I’m using away mode with speak characters and speak words on. 
Hoping I can figure this out since I like it, but get tired of it jumping 
around.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

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Subject: RE: Mbraille question

 

What are your settings in MBraille?

IN particular, which mode are you using, piano, away, or or Smart?

 

Do you have it set to echo words, characters, or both?

 

 

 

 

Richard

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My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Subject: Mbraille question

 

Hi all, I have used M-braille as a third party keyboard for several years. 
Lately I’ve noticed that as I type it will some times jump around, reading what 
I wrote rather than typing the letters I’m trying to type. Has anyone else 
noticed this. I’m using an Iphone 13 mini running IOS 13.2.1. I’m hoping the’s 
a solution to this. Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and the pups 

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RE: Mbraille question

2022-01-15 Thread Paula Jordan
Hi Richard.  I’m using away mode with speak characters and speak words on. 
Hoping I can figure this out since I like it, but get tired of it jumping 
around.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

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Subject: RE: Mbraille question

 

What are your settings in MBraille?

IN particular, which mode are you using, piano, away, or or Smart?

 

Do you have it set to echo words, characters, or both?

 

 

 

 

Richard

“One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin

 

My web site; https://www.turner42.com/

 

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Subject: Mbraille question

 

Hi all, I have used M-braille as a third party keyboard for several years. 
Lately I’ve noticed that as I type it will some times jump around, reading what 
I wrote rather than typing the letters I’m trying to type. Has anyone else 
noticed this. I’m using an Iphone 13 mini running IOS 13.2.1. I’m hoping the’s 
a solution to this. Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and the pups 

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RE: Mbraille question

2022-01-15 Thread richardr_turner
What are your settings in MBraille?

IN particular, which mode are you using, piano, away, or or Smart?

 

Do you have it set to echo words, characters, or both?

 

 

 

 

Richard

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Subject: Mbraille question

 

Hi all, I have used M-braille as a third party keyboard for several years. 
Lately I’ve noticed that as I type it will some times jump around, reading what 
I wrote rather than typing the letters I’m trying to type. Has anyone else 
noticed this. I’m using an Iphone 13 mini running IOS 13.2.1. I’m hoping the’s 
a solution to this. Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and the pups 

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Mbraille question

2022-01-15 Thread Paula Jordan
Hi all, I have used M-braille as a third party keyboard for several years.
Lately I've noticed that as I type it will some times jump around, reading
what I wrote rather than typing the letters I'm trying to type. Has anyone
else noticed this. I'm using an Iphone 13 mini running IOS 13.2.1. I'm
hoping the's a solution to this. Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and the pups 

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RE: activating MBraille on a new iPhone

2021-10-18 Thread Richard Turner
I'm not sure of the current pricing, you can check that on the app store.
Be sure you check everything the description in the app store says and see if 
there is a button about in-app purchases at the end so you can read any details 
about options.

Third party keyboards are added by going to Settings, General, Keyboard, and at 
the top is a place that shows the number of keyboards, most people by default 
have 2, the standard onscreen keyboard and the emoji keyboard.
Double tap there and there will be an add keyboard button.
If you have an app installed that can function as an onscreen keyboard, double 
tap it.
Then, if you want the new keyboard to have full access to the system, you 
double tap on its name after you have added it, and turn on permissions, which 
gives you a warning that the developer may be able to see what you write




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Hi how much does mbraille cost and how do you add it to the phone as a full 
keyboard?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Subject: RE: activating MBraille on a new IPhone

I'm copying Harri Pasanen the MBraille developer.

Do you have the full purchased copy of MBraille?

If so, did you restore your purchase under the menu when you do a three finger 
swipe up in the main MBraille screen?




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Subject: activating MBraille on a new IPhone

Hi.  I need help activating MBraille on my IPhone 13 mini.  It's been 
downloaded and I added the third party keyboard.  When I enter a text field the 
MBraille keyboard shows up, but when I double tap on it I get something about 
doing a long swipe to activate.  Nothing seems to work and I use this app quite 
often.  Could someone please give me simple step-by-step directions to activate 
it.  You can write me privately at 
pau...@roadrunner.com<mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>.  Thanks in advance.
God bless!
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RE: activating MBraille on a new iPhone

2021-10-18 Thread Casey Wollner
Hi how much does mbraille cost and how do you add it to the phone as a full 
keyboard?
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: activating MBraille on a new IPhone
 
I’m copying Harri Pasanen the MBraille developer.
 
Do you have the full purchased copy of MBraille?
 
If so, did you restore your purchase under the menu when you do a three finger 
swipe up in the main MBraille screen?
 
 
 
 
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner
 
My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paula 
Jordan
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: activating MBraille on a new IPhone
 
Hi.  I need help activating MBraille on my IPhone 13 mini.  It’s been 
downloaded and I added the third party keyboard.  When I enter a text field the 
MBraille keyboard shows up, but when I double tap on it I get something about 
doing a long swipe to activate.  Nothing seems to work and I use this app quite 
often.  Could someone please give me simple step-by-step directions to activate 
it.  You can write me privately at pau...@roadrunner.com 
<mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> .  Thanks in advance.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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RE: activating MBraille on a new IPhone

2021-10-18 Thread Richard Turner
I'm copying Harri Pasanen the MBraille developer.

Do you have the full purchased copy of MBraille?

If so, did you restore your purchase under the menu when you do a three finger 
swipe up in the main MBraille screen?




Richard
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Jordan
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: activating MBraille on a new IPhone

Hi.  I need help activating MBraille on my IPhone 13 mini.  It's been 
downloaded and I added the third party keyboard.  When I enter a text field the 
MBraille keyboard shows up, but when I double tap on it I get something about 
doing a long swipe to activate.  Nothing seems to work and I use this app quite 
often.  Could someone please give me simple step-by-step directions to activate 
it.  You can write me privately at 
pau...@roadrunner.com<mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>.  Thanks in advance.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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activating MBraille on a new IPhone

2021-10-07 Thread Paula Jordan
Hi.  I need help activating MBraille on my IPhone 13 mini.  It's been
downloaded and I added the third party keyboard.  When I enter a text field
the MBraille keyboard shows up, but when I double tap on it I get something
about doing a long swipe to activate.  Nothing seems to work and I use this
app quite often.  Could someone please give me simple step-by-step
directions to activate it.  You can write me privately at
pau...@roadrunner.com <mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> .  Thanks in advance.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-24 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello all,
I really like BSI for input on my iPhone. I do also like the features that 
MBraille has but the $40 price for full access to the app is a bit pricy. 
Greg Wocher

> On Aug 24, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Whether BSI, M-Braille or Flicktype, any of these require you to understand 
> how they work and after that constant practice and not just for half an hour, 
> but for hours and hours. It's just like correct touch typing on a full-size 
> keyboard, some people can do 30 or 40 words a minute and others can do 100 or 
> more or, according to Wikipedia, 216 words a minute back in 1946 on an  IBM 
> electric typewriter by Stella Pajunas-Garnand in Chicago.
> Here is an interesting blog article from the "Das Keyboard" website:
>  
> The Fastest Typist in the World Wins the Ultimate Typing Championship
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: August 24, 2021 2:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>  
> Thanks a lot.  I will give it a try.  I really like the concept of BSI, I 
> just hope I will get the hang of this app.  When I was playing around with 
> BSI just trying out the alphabet in braille, one time I got it to work, and I 
> was surprised at how fast I could type some of the letters.
>  
> On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> > there is not really callibration but you have a few layouts. It is
> > much like BSI but I find it a bit easier.
> > I think you can get the app for free and get used to it before having
> > to consider purchasing it.
> > There is a lot of settings to customize it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> > -- Jane Wagner
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > website:  www.turner42.com
> > 
> > 
> > On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> > 
> > That sounds very interesting.  I tried the BSI thing, but just
> > couldn't get the hang of it.  That sounds easier then flicktype.  I
> > tried that and it was confusing.  If I do get mbraille, I'll probably
> > have questions.  Having a braille keyboard come up when I need to send
> > a text message would be very neat if I can figure out how to use it.
> > Also, doing web searches would also be very nice.  Is there any
> > calibrating of fingers like in BSI?  Thanks.
> > 
> > On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> > MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple
> > Braille Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full
> > version, it can be set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could
> > be an extra keyboard.
> > It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the
> > braille period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone
> > number, you can send whatever you had written as a text message.
> > Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an
> > email address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.
> > Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just
> > write in the body of a text or email.
> > Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from
> > the app, add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.
> > 
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.
> > apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fmbraille%2Fid639199558data=04%7C01%7C%7C26
> > bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%
> > 7C0%7C637653765605406064%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiL
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> > 7WJ6Mk%2FS0OcNfpvjEY2%2BxrG1ZvJZP%2FnbPrOw%3Dreserved=0
> > 
> > I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Richard
> > Software means never having to say you're finished
> > 
> > Web site:
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> > rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C26bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7
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> > wPhizs%3Dreserved=0
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> > Joshua Hendrickson
> > Sent: Monday, Au

RE: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Whether BSI, M-Braille or Flicktype, any of these require you to understand how 
they work and after that constant practice and not just for half an hour, but 
for hours and hours. It's just like correct touch typing on a full-size 
keyboard, some people can do 30 or 40 words a minute and others can do 100 or 
more or, according to Wikipedia, 216 words a minute back in 1946 on an  IBM 
electric typewriter by Stella Pajunas-Garnand in Chicago.

Here is an interesting blog article from the "Das Keyboard" website:



The Fastest Typist in the World Wins the Ultimate Typing 
Championship<https://www.daskeyboard.com/blog/the-fastest-typist-in-the-world-wins-the-ultimate-typing-championship/>



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: August 24, 2021 2:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType



Thanks a lot.  I will give it a try.  I really like the concept of BSI, I just 
hope I will get the hang of this app.  When I was playing around with BSI just 
trying out the alphabet in braille, one time I got it to work, and I was 
surprised at how fast I could type some of the letters.



On 8/23/21, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

> there is not really callibration but you have a few layouts. It is

> much like BSI but I find it a bit easier.

> I think you can get the app for free and get used to it before having

> to consider purchasing it.

> There is a lot of settings to customize it.

>

>

>

> Richard

> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."

> -- Jane Wagner

>

>

>

>

>

> website:  www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

>

>

> On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
> mailto:louv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>

> That sounds very interesting.  I tried the BSI thing, but just

> couldn't get the hang of it.  That sounds easier then flicktype.  I

> tried that and it was confusing.  If I do get mbraille, I'll probably

> have questions.  Having a braille keyboard come up when I need to send

> a text message would be very neat if I can figure out how to use it.

> Also, doing web searches would also be very nice.  Is there any

> calibrating of fingers like in BSI?  Thanks.

>

> On 8/23/21, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

> MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple

> Braille Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full

> version, it can be set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could

> be an extra keyboard.

> It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the

> braille period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone

> number, you can send whatever you had written as a text message.

> Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an

> email address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.

> Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just

> write in the body of a text or email.

> Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from

> the app, add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.

>

> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.

> apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fmbraille%2Fid639199558data=04%7C01%7C%7C26

> bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%

> 7C0%7C637653765605406064%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiL

> CJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=7rGBjjD

> 7WJ6Mk%2FS0OcNfpvjEY2%2BxrG1ZvJZP%2FnbPrOw%3Dreserved=0

>

> I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.

>

>

>

> Richard

> Software means never having to say you're finished

>

> Web site:

> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu

> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C26bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7

> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637653765605416019%7CUnkno

> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL

> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=zFUuWxKTdNGPv1yNUvScwDnnUPwjE%2F6ovxeZ7

> wPhizs%3Dreserved=0

>

> -Original Message-

> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of

> Joshua Hendrickson

> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 1:38 PM

> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

>

> Richard, what is

Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-24 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Thanks a lot.  I will give it a try.  I really like the concept of
BSI, I just hope I will get the hang of this app.  When I was playing
around with BSI just trying out the alphabet in braille, one time I
got it to work, and I was surprised at how fast I could type some of
the letters.

On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> there is not really callibration but you have a few layouts. It is much like
> BSI but I find it a bit easier.
> I think you can get the app for free and get used to it before having to
> consider purchasing it.
> There is a lot of settings to customize it.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
>
>
>
> website:  www.turner42.com
>
>
> On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>
> That sounds very interesting.  I tried the BSI thing, but just
> couldn't get the hang of it.  That sounds easier then flicktype.  I
> tried that and it was confusing.  If I do get mbraille, I'll probably
> have questions.  Having a braille keyboard come up when I need to send
> a text message would be very neat if I can figure out how to use it.
> Also, doing web searches would also be very nice.  Is there any
> calibrating of fingers like in BSI?  Thanks.
>
> On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple Braille
> Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full version, it
> can
> be set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could be an extra keyboard.
> It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the
> braille period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone number,
> you can send whatever you had written as a text message.
> Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an email
> address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.
> Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just write
> in the body of a text or email.
> Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from the
> app, add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fmbraille%2Fid639199558data=04%7C01%7C%7C26bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637653765605406064%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=7rGBjjD7WJ6Mk%2FS0OcNfpvjEY2%2BxrG1ZvJZP%2FnbPrOw%3Dreserved=0
>
> I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.
>
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
> Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C26bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637653765605416019%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=zFUuWxKTdNGPv1yNUvScwDnnUPwjE%2F6ovxeZ7wPhizs%3Dreserved=0
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 1:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>
> Richard, what is m-braille?
>
> On 8/23/21, Dennis Long  wrote:
> Richard I completely agree with you.  It took me years to see that.  I
> used Android for years.  Will Google ever catch up?  Doubtful.  Could
> they yes if Apple took  years off and Google actually did something.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>
>
>
> Let us not lose sight of the fact they are actually putting more and
> more into accessibility.  It may not be your accessibility, but over
> all, they are way out in front in this area.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
>
> Web site:
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C26bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637653765605416019%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Izt1c6OPyv3CcdHclsosLzL1Ylixl2FYyM0cOW8aMFo%3Dreserved=0
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Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-23 Thread Richard Turner
there is not really callibration but you have a few layouts. It is much like 
BSI but I find it a bit easier.
I think you can get the app for free and get used to it before having to 
consider purchasing it.
There is a lot of settings to customize it.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com


On Aug 23, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

That sounds very interesting.  I tried the BSI thing, but just
couldn't get the hang of it.  That sounds easier then flicktype.  I
tried that and it was confusing.  If I do get mbraille, I'll probably
have questions.  Having a braille keyboard come up when I need to send
a text message would be very neat if I can figure out how to use it.
Also, doing web searches would also be very nice.  Is there any
calibrating of fingers like in BSI?  Thanks.

On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple Braille
Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full version, it can
be set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could be an extra keyboard.
It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the
braille period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone number,
you can send whatever you had written as a text message.
Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an email
address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.
Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just write
in the body of a text or email.
Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from the
app, add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fmbraille%2Fid639199558data=04%7C01%7C%7C26bc78bd273a4834b61b08d966b8ab39%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637653765605406064%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=7rGBjjD7WJ6Mk%2FS0OcNfpvjEY2%2BxrG1ZvJZP%2FnbPrOw%3Dreserved=0

I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

Richard, what is m-braille?

On 8/23/21, Dennis Long  wrote:
Richard I completely agree with you.  It took me years to see that.  I
used Android for years.  Will Google ever catch up?  Doubtful.  Could
they yes if Apple took  years off and Google actually did something.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType



Let us not lose sight of the fact they are actually putting more and
more into accessibility.  It may not be your accessibility, but over
all, they are way out in front in this area.











Richard

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Re: MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-23 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
That sounds very interesting.  I tried the BSI thing, but just
couldn't get the hang of it.  That sounds easier then flicktype.  I
tried that and it was confusing.  If I do get mbraille, I'll probably
have questions.  Having a braille keyboard come up when I need to send
a text message would be very neat if I can figure out how to use it.
Also, doing web searches would also be very nice.  Is there any
calibrating of fingers like in BSI?  Thanks.

On 8/23/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple Braille
> Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full version, it can
> be set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could be an extra keyboard.
> It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the
> braille period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone number,
> you can send whatever you had written as a text message.
> Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an email
> address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.
> Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just write
> in the body of a text or email.
> Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from the
> app, add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.
>
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mbraille/id639199558
>
> I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.
>
>
>
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
>
> Web site: www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 1:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>
> Richard, what is m-braille?
>
> On 8/23/21, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> Richard I completely agree with you.  It took me years to see that.  I
>> used Android for years.  Will Google ever catch up?  Doubtful.  Could
>> they yes if Apple took  years off and Google actually did something.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 11:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>>
>>
>>
>> Let us not lose sight of the fact they are actually putting more and
>> more into accessibility.  It may not be your accessibility, but over
>> all, they are way out in front in this area.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
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>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 8:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>>
>>
>>
>> It's definitely not the end of the world, but I hope we won't continue
>> having this type of problem, but something tells me we will as Apple's
>> success grows and their App Store team has more and more they have to
>> do and look out for.
>>
>>
>> Devin Prater
>>
>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:06 AM Richard Turner
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> I  Very much doubt the millions of customers it would take to switch
>> to the "somewhat dark side, grin" will do so, which is what it would
>> take to impact Apple's wallet.  A few people 

MBraille, or BSI, not about Flicktype

2021-08-23 Thread Richard Turner
Please stop the off topic posts on the thread about Flicktype.
If you want to talk about MBraille pros and cons, or Braille Screen Input (BSI) 
make it its own topic.




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MBraille, was RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

2021-08-23 Thread Richard Turner
MBraille is an app for writing braille on the screen like the Apple Braille 
Input, though it has far more features.  If you buy the full version, it can be 
set as another keyboard; much like FlickType could be an extra keyboard.
It has lots of what he calls "dot commands," so that by brailling the braille 
period dots 2,5,6 followed by sms then a contact or a phone number, you can 
send whatever you had written as a text message.
Or, dot mail  followed by a subject in quotes or just a contact or an email 
address you can send a mail message, all from within the app.
Or of course, once the keyboard is up, you can switch to it and just write in 
the body of a text or email.
Those are what I use the most, but you can also do web searches from the app, 
add calendar events, and save notes to Dropbox and on, and on.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mbraille/id639199558

I'll start a new thread if this continues to not be about flicktype.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType

Richard, what is m-braille?

On 8/23/21, Dennis Long  wrote:
> Richard I completely agree with you.  It took me years to see that.  I 
> used Android for years.  Will Google ever catch up?  Doubtful.  Could 
> they yes if Apple took  years off and Google actually did something.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>
>
>
> Let us not lose sight of the fact they are actually putting more and 
> more into accessibility.  It may not be your accessibility, but over 
> all, they are way out in front in this area.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
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> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 8:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType
>
>
>
> It's definitely not the end of the world, but I hope we won't continue 
> having this type of problem, but something tells me we will as Apple's 
> success grows and their App Store team has more and more they have to 
> do and look out for.
>
>
> Devin Prater
>
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:06 AM Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>
> I  Very much doubt the millions of customers it would take to switch 
> to the "somewhat dark side, grin" will do so, which is what it would 
> take to impact Apple's wallet.  A few people switching to Android certainly 
> won't.
>
>
>
> I also doubt Flicktype will see the light of day again, which is too 
> bad, but not the end of the world.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
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Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

2021-02-27 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi Chris and Richard, 

I followed Chris's steps and got mbraille dropbox functionality back again. 
Hurray! Many thanks to both! 

Best, 

Ioana


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which normally 
> pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille folder?
> 
> I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working 
> together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4.
> 
> Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which 
> solved my issue last time.
> 
> 1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox, 
> moving them to a different location within Dropbox.
> 2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
> 3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it from 
> your app switcher.
> 4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille 
> should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
> 5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the MBraille 
> folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
> 6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you can 
> open the file you just saved.
> 7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy 
> and paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new 
> one just created.
> 
> Hopefully this is helpful and will work!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support? 
>> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I 
>> did check the spam. 
>> 
>> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
>> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
>> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this. 
>> 
>> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with 
>> no luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app. 
>> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
>> developer... 
>> Any ideas? 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: For Ioana Gandrabur FW: [Mbraille] FW: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

2021-02-27 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Thanks, Richard!

I just noticed the answers to this thread now. Will try mBraille again and, if 
it should not work still I will try reaching out to the list again. 

Best,

Ioana 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Ioana, 
> I forwarded your message to Harri and his reply is below.
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Harri Pasanen  
> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:55 AM
> Cc: mbrai...@lists.mpaja.com
> Subject: Re: [Mbraille] FW: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response 
> from tech support
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> Thanks for bringing this to my attention.  The list server must have bounced 
> her off the list.  I am very rarely contacted via the contact form, I need to 
> check that it works as well.
> 
> I’m off my computer now, bit will try to sort this out as soon as I’m back.
> 
> Harri
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11. Feb 2021, at 16.46, Richard Turner via MBraille 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Ioana needs some assistance.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ioana 
>> Gandrabur
>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 3:53 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support? 
>> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I 
>> did check the spam. 
>> 
>> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
>> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
>> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this. 
>> 
>> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with 
>> no luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app. 
>> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
>> developer... 
>> Any ideas? 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

2021-02-27 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi,

Very sorry, I just saw the replies to the thread I started...

It opens the local mBraille folder on my iPhone. 
Thanks for any ideas.

Best,

Ioana 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which normally 
> pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille folder?
> 
> I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working 
> together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4.
> 
> Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which 
> solved my issue last time.
> 
> 1, Make a backup of all of the files in your MBraille folder in Dropbox, 
> moving them to a different location within Dropbox.
> 2, Delete the MBraille folder from Dropbox.
> 3, Within the MBraille app, turn off syncing with Dropbox, then clear it from 
> your app switcher.
> 4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille 
> should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
> 5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the MBraille 
> folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
> 6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you can 
> open the file you just saved.
> 7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy 
> and paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new 
> one just created.
> 
> Hopefully this is helpful and will work!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support? 
>> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I 
>> did check the spam. 
>> 
>> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
>> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
>> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this. 
>> 
>> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with 
>> no luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app. 
>> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
>> developer... 
>> Any ideas? 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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For Ioana Gandrabur FW: [Mbraille] FW: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

2021-02-13 Thread Richard Turner
Ioana, 
I forwarded your message to Harri and his reply is below.

Richard

-Original Message-
From: Harri Pasanen  
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 11:55 AM
Cc: mbrai...@lists.mpaja.com
Subject: Re: [Mbraille] FW: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response 
from tech support

Hi Richard,

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.  The list server must have bounced 
her off the list.  I am very rarely contacted via the contact form, I need to 
check that it works as well.

I’m off my computer now, bit will try to sort this out as soon as I’m back.

Harri



> On 11. Feb 2021, at 16.46, Richard Turner via MBraille 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ioana needs some assistance.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ioana 
> Gandrabur
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 3:53 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support? 
> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I did 
> check the spam. 
> 
> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this. 
> 
> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with no 
> luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app. 
> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
> developer... 
> Any ideas? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Ioana
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

2021-02-11 Thread Chris Chaffin


Exactly what happens when you try to use the dot Open command, which normally 
pops up the screen with the files from your Dropbox MBraille folder?

I have had different issues over the years with MBraille and Dropbox working 
together. I can say that everything is working fine for me running ios 14.4.

Other than deleting and reinstalling your apps, you can also try this, which 
solved my issue last time.

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them to a different location within Dropbox.
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your app switcher.
4, Start the MBraille app and turn back on syncing with Dropbox. MBraille 
should automatically create a new MBraille folder in Dropbox.
5, TYPE something in MBraille and save it so it will be saved to the MBraille 
folder in Dropbox. This is just testing to see if it works.
6, If the save is successful, then use the dot open command to see if you can 
open the file you just saved.
7, If both is successful, then you should be all set, so you can then copy and 
paste all of the files you use to have in the MBraille folder to the new one 
just created.

Hopefully this is helpful and will work!

Chris


> On Feb 11, 2021, at 6:53 AM, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support? 
> I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I did 
> check the spam. 
> 
> I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page 
> never gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from 
> them... Very sad to see this app flag like this. 
> 
> My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with no 
> luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app. 
> So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
> developer... 
> Any ideas? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Ioana
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Dropbox not working with mBraille and no response from tech support

2021-02-11 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hi all, 

Anyone knows what happened to mBraille support? 
I sent messages to the feedback list and never got them or any replies. I did 
check the spam. 

I also went to their contact form online and sent a message. But the page never 
gave a confirmation that it was received  nor did I hear back from them... Very 
sad to see this app flag like this. 

My dropbox support stopped working. I uninstalled app and reinstalled with no 
luck. I also turned off and back on the db setting in the mBraille app. 
So now I have no aliases, no syncing of documents and no way to reach out to 
developer... 
Any ideas? 

Thanks, 

Ioana


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Direct Touch and the MBraille app

2020-10-21 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi all,

Is the direct touch issue still there in ios 14.1 when trying to use the 
MBraille standalone app? I am assuming no, but thought I would ask.

Thanks,

Chris

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RE: MBraille

2019-12-03 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
I use MBraille when I want to write a quick note or a quick text.  I use my 
focus when I’m writing longer emails or something that’s more involved than a 
quick message.

Both have their place.  Sometimes I just don’t want to get the Focus out.

Hope that helps.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kheve...@earthlink.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 12:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MBraille

 

Paula, do us use the focus with this ap, or do you type and edit from your 
iphone?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MBraille

 

The thing I like most about MBraille is that you can edit your work when you 
use it as a third party keyboard.  You can move by word, sentence or paragraph 
forward or back and correct as needed.Youcan insert text to if needed.  I very 
much like that feature.  I use the app several times each day. 

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 11:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille

 

Hi Joe, 

It is a one time fee. If you want all of its features, I think it is around 
$39.00 which includes the third party keyboard capability.

I have not used the braille screen input enough to be able to detail the 
differences in gestures since I was using MBraille before Apple improved the 
braille screen input.

But, here is the link to the help file where you can read through all of 
MBraille's features.

I really like the "dot commands" which are commands you can do in the stand 
alone app to then initiate an action in another app, like perfecting a note, 
then writing in braille on the last line, the period followed by sms and the 
person's name or phone number, and it launches the messages app with your text 
ready to just hit the send button.

Anyway, here is the link:

https://mpaja.com/mbraille/en.lproj/help.htm 
<https://mpaja.com/mbraille/en.lproj/help.htm>  

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Dec 1, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:

That makes sense. But can you get into a little more detail? Are the
gestures different? Is the recognition smoother? Faster? Also, was
this the app that charges a subscription fee? I’d rather pay a lump
sum than a recurring charge, but if there is something about it that
warrants the cost, I’m open to being convinced. Thank you in advance
for indulging my curiosity.

Joe


On 12/1/19, Richard Turner  wrote:

I am replying with MBraille as a third party keyboard.

It has had that capacity for a long time.

I like it better than the built-in braille screen input partly because you

select it when you need it and you don't have to deal with the rotor.

His approach has been the best braille app I've used.

He keeps it updated and you can elect to use UEB or not.

HTH,

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with

it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane

Wagner

 

 

On Dec 1, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I saw mention of MBraille in the AppleVis newsletter. I had no idea

this was now accessible as a third party keyboard. Can someone tell me

the difference between this Mbraille app and the Braille input already

supplied with iOS? I don’t mind financially supporting third party

developers, especially those expanding Braille literacy, but I want to

know exactly what I’m getting into.

 

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Re: MBraille

2019-12-02 Thread Richard Turner
The MBraille app is used just on the phone screen, no external device needed.
If you have your braille display handy, stick with it, as you can do everything 
from writing text to controlling your device.
The app provides an alternative onscreen keyboard for braille input.




Richard
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On Dec 2, 2019, at 9:43 PM, "kheve...@earthlink.net"  
wrote:


Paula, do us use the focus with this ap, or do you type and edit from your 
iphone?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MBraille

The thing I like most about MBraille is that you can edit your work when you 
use it as a third party keyboard.  You can move by word, sentence or paragraph 
forward or back and correct as needed.Youcan insert text to if needed.  I very 
much like that feature.  I use the app several times each day.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 11:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: MBraille

Hi Joe,
It is a one time fee. If you want all of its features, I think it is around 
$39.00 which includes the third party keyboard capability.
I have not used the braille screen input enough to be able to detail the 
differences in gestures since I was using MBraille before Apple improved the 
braille screen input.
But, here is the link to the help file where you can read through all of 
MBraille's features.
I really like the "dot commands" which are commands you can do in the stand 
alone app to then initiate an action in another app, like perfecting a note, 
then writing in braille on the last line, the period followed by sms and the 
person's name or phone number, and it launches the messages app with your text 
ready to just hit the send button.
Anyway, here is the link:
https://mpaja.com/mbraille/en.lproj/help.htm<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmpaja.com%2Fmbraille%2Fen.lproj%2Fhelp.htm=02%7C01%7C%7Cabcf3e41d9b74f72f67408d777b3c66b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637109486317960127=ZyYspDkuMqMTsUKvwd%2FqGiwBYnRv%2BHHhwk5UBqHj4OQ%3D=0>



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On Dec 1, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Joe Orozco 
mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That makes sense. But can you get into a little more detail? Are the
gestures different? Is the recognition smoother? Faster? Also, was
this the app that charges a subscription fee? I’d rather pay a lump
sum than a recurring charge, but if there is something about it that
warrants the cost, I’m open to being convinced. Thank you in advance
for indulging my curiosity.

Joe


On 12/1/19, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I am replying with MBraille as a third party keyboard.
It has had that capacity for a long time.
I like it better than the built-in braille screen input partly because you
select it when you need it and you don't have to deal with the rotor.
His approach has been the best braille app I've used.
He keeps it updated and you can elect to use UEB or not.
HTH,




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
Wagner


On Dec 1, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Joe Orozco 
mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I saw mention of MBraille in the AppleVis newsletter. I had no idea
this was now accessible as a third party keyboard. Can someone tell me
the difference between this Mbraille app and the Braille input already
supplied with iOS? I don’t mind financially supporting third party
developers, especially those expanding Braille literacy, but I want to
know exactly what I’m getting into.

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RE: MBraille

2019-12-02 Thread khevener
Paula, do us use the focus with this ap, or do you type and edit from your 
iphone?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MBraille

 

The thing I like most about MBraille is that you can edit your work when you 
use it as a third party keyboard.  You can move by word, sentence or paragraph 
forward or back and correct as needed.Youcan insert text to if needed.  I very 
much like that feature.  I use the app several times each day. 

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 11:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: MBraille

 

Hi Joe, 

It is a one time fee. If you want all of its features, I think it is around 
$39.00 which includes the third party keyboard capability.

I have not used the braille screen input enough to be able to detail the 
differences in gestures since I was using MBraille before Apple improved the 
braille screen input.

But, here is the link to the help file where you can read through all of 
MBraille's features.

I really like the "dot commands" which are commands you can do in the stand 
alone app to then initiate an action in another app, like perfecting a note, 
then writing in braille on the last line, the period followed by sms and the 
person's name or phone number, and it launches the messages app with your text 
ready to just hit the send button.

Anyway, here is the link:

https://mpaja.com/mbraille/en.lproj/help.htm 
<https://mpaja.com/mbraille/en.lproj/help.htm>  

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

 

On Dec 1, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Joe Orozco mailto:jsoro...@gmail.com> > wrote:

That makes sense. But can you get into a little more detail? Are the
gestures different? Is the recognition smoother? Faster? Also, was
this the app that charges a subscription fee? I’d rather pay a lump
sum than a recurring charge, but if there is something about it that
warrants the cost, I’m open to being convinced. Thank you in advance
for indulging my curiosity.

Joe


On 12/1/19, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I am replying with MBraille as a third party keyboard.

It has had that capacity for a long time.

I like it better than the built-in braille screen input partly because you

select it when you need it and you don't have to deal with the rotor.

His approach has been the best braille app I've used.

He keeps it updated and you can elect to use UEB or not.

HTH,

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with

it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane

Wagner

 

 

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Hi,

 

I saw mention of MBraille in the AppleVis newsletter. I had no idea

this was now accessible as a third party keyboard. Can someone tell me

the difference between this Mbraille app and the Braille input already

supplied with iOS? I don’t mind financially supporting third party

developers, especially those expanding Braille literacy, but I want to

know exactly what I’m getting into.

 

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RE: MBraille

2019-12-02 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
The thing I like most about MBraille is that you can edit your work when you 
use it as a third party keyboard.  You can move by word, sentence or paragraph 
forward or back and correct as needed.Youcan insert text to if needed.  I very 
much like that feature.  I use the app several times each day. 

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 11:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille

 

Hi Joe, 

It is a one time fee. If you want all of its features, I think it is around 
$39.00 which includes the third party keyboard capability.

I have not used the braille screen input enough to be able to detail the 
differences in gestures since I was using MBraille before Apple improved the 
braille screen input.

But, here is the link to the help file where you can read through all of 
MBraille's features.

I really like the "dot commands" which are commands you can do in the stand 
alone app to then initiate an action in another app, like perfecting a note, 
then writing in braille on the last line, the period followed by sms and the 
person's name or phone number, and it launches the messages app with your text 
ready to just hit the send button.

Anyway, here is the link:

https://mpaja.com/mbraille/en.lproj/help.htm 
<https://mpaja.com/mbraille/en.lproj/help.htm>  

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Dec 1, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:

That makes sense. But can you get into a little more detail? Are the
gestures different? Is the recognition smoother? Faster? Also, was
this the app that charges a subscription fee? I’d rather pay a lump
sum than a recurring charge, but if there is something about it that
warrants the cost, I’m open to being convinced. Thank you in advance
for indulging my curiosity.

Joe


On 12/1/19, Richard Turner  wrote:



I am replying with MBraille as a third party keyboard.

It has had that capacity for a long time.

I like it better than the built-in braille screen input partly because you

select it when you need it and you don't have to deal with the rotor.

His approach has been the best braille app I've used.

He keeps it updated and you can elect to use UEB or not.

HTH,

 

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with

it."

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane

Wagner

 

 

On Dec 1, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I saw mention of MBraille in the AppleVis newsletter. I had no idea

this was now accessible as a third party keyboard. Can someone tell me

the difference between this Mbraille app and the Braille input already

supplied with iOS? I don’t mind financially supporting third party

developers, especially those expanding Braille literacy, but I want to

know exactly what I’m getting into.

 

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re: MBraille

2019-12-01 Thread 'jan howells' via VIPhone
You put your apple device in landscape mode to use the mbraille 
app.  That way you can use an imaginary braille keyboard by 
touch.


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2019-12-01 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Joe,
It is a one time fee. If you want all of its features, I think it is around 
$39.00 which includes the third party keyboard capability.
I have not used the braille screen input enough to be able to detail the 
differences in gestures since I was using MBraille before Apple improved the 
braille screen input.
But, here is the link to the help file where you can read through all of 
MBraille's features.
I really like the "dot commands" which are commands you can do in the stand 
alone app to then initiate an action in another app, like perfecting a note, 
then writing in braille on the last line, the period followed by sms and the 
person's name or phone number, and it launches the messages app with your text 
ready to just hit the send button.
Anyway, here is the link:
https://mpaja.com/mbraille/en.lproj/help.htm<https://mpaja.com/mbraille/en.lproj/help.htm>




Richard
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-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Dec 1, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:

That makes sense. But can you get into a little more detail? Are the
gestures different? Is the recognition smoother? Faster? Also, was
this the app that charges a subscription fee? I’d rather pay a lump
sum than a recurring charge, but if there is something about it that
warrants the cost, I’m open to being convinced. Thank you in advance
for indulging my curiosity.

Joe


On 12/1/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
I am replying with MBraille as a third party keyboard.
It has had that capacity for a long time.
I like it better than the built-in braille screen input partly because you
select it when you need it and you don't have to deal with the rotor.
His approach has been the best braille app I've used.
He keeps it updated and you can elect to use UEB or not.
HTH,




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it."
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Wagner


On Dec 1, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:

Hi,

I saw mention of MBraille in the AppleVis newsletter. I had no idea
this was now accessible as a third party keyboard. Can someone tell me
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supplied with iOS? I don’t mind financially supporting third party
developers, especially those expanding Braille literacy, but I want to
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Re: MBraille

2019-12-01 Thread Joe Orozco
That makes sense. But can you get into a little more detail? Are the
gestures different? Is the recognition smoother? Faster? Also, was
this the app that charges a subscription fee? I’d rather pay a lump
sum than a recurring charge, but if there is something about it that
warrants the cost, I’m open to being convinced. Thank you in advance
for indulging my curiosity.

Joe


On 12/1/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I am replying with MBraille as a third party keyboard.
> It has had that capacity for a long time.
> I like it better than the built-in braille screen input partly because you
> select it when you need it and you don't have to deal with the rotor.
> His approach has been the best braille app I've used.
> He keeps it updated and you can elect to use UEB or not.
> HTH,
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
> it."
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
> Wagner
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I saw mention of MBraille in the AppleVis newsletter. I had no idea
> this was now accessible as a third party keyboard. Can someone tell me
> the difference between this Mbraille app and the Braille input already
> supplied with iOS? I don’t mind financially supporting third party
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Re: MBraille

2019-12-01 Thread Richard Turner
I am replying with MBraille as a third party keyboard.
It has had that capacity for a long time.
I like it better than the built-in braille screen input partly because you 
select it when you need it and you don't have to deal with the rotor.
His approach has been the best braille app I've used.
He keeps it updated and you can elect to use UEB or not.
HTH,




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On Dec 1, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:

Hi,

I saw mention of MBraille in the AppleVis newsletter. I had no idea
this was now accessible as a third party keyboard. Can someone tell me
the difference between this Mbraille app and the Braille input already
supplied with iOS? I don’t mind financially supporting third party
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MBraille

2019-12-01 Thread Joe Orozco
Hi,

I saw mention of MBraille in the AppleVis newsletter. I had no idea
this was now accessible as a third party keyboard. Can someone tell me
the difference between this Mbraille app and the Braille input already
supplied with iOS? I don’t mind financially supporting third party
developers, especially those expanding Braille literacy, but I want to
know exactly what I’m getting into.

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Re: mbraille with IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-17 Thread Richard Turner
It is not working as a third party keyboard. But, in the beta for 13.2 it is 
working again.
So, hang tight for the release of 13.2.




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Hi.  Has anyone used MBraille with IOS 13.1.3 and does it work correctly?  It’s 
an app I use a lot so would like to know how it works. Thanks.
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mbraille with IOS 13.1.3

2019-10-17 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Hi.  Has anyone used MBraille with IOS 13.1.3 and does it work correctly?
It’s an app I use a lot so would like to know how it works. Thanks.

God bless!

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Re: MBraille and Focus 14 with IOS 13.1

2019-09-24 Thread Richard Turner
Hi,
The external braille display is working well with 13.1.
But, MBraille is not speaking if you are using it as a third party keyboard.
It works fine as a stand-alone app.
So, if you use MBraille as a third party keyboard, the developer even 
recommends waiting to update.
HTH,


Richard

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Hi all.  I use both MBraille and a Focus 14 keyboard with my IPhone 7.  I’ve 
not updated to 13 since I’ve heard there are some problems with both. Does 
anyone know if those are resolved in 13.1?
Thanks in advance.
God bless!
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MBraille and Focus 14 with IOS 13.1

2019-09-24 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Hi all.  I use both MBraille and a Focus 14 keyboard with my IPhone 7.  I’ve
not updated to 13 since I’ve heard there are some problems with both. Does
anyone know if those are resolved in 13.1? 

Thanks in advance.

God bless!

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RE: MBraille keyboard disappeared

2019-09-07 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
That seems to have done the trick.  Even though I have the focus, I still like 
to use the MBraille keyboard.  Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and Garçon

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Subject: RE: MBraille keyboard disappeared

 

Only if the Focus is connected so your phone thinks that is the main keyboard.

Otherwise, you may want to go into keyboard settings and toggle MBraille off 
and then on again to see if that helps.

 

 

 

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Hi all.  It seems that my MBraille keyboard has disappeared.  I’m running IOS 
12.4.1.  I’ve also sometimes been using my focus 14 to write texts.  Is there 
any correlation?  I’ve shut my phone down using just the screen lock button.  
That doesn’t seem to have fixed the problem   Any thoughts?

God bless!

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RE: MBraille keyboard disappeared

2019-09-07 Thread Richard Turner
Only if the Focus is connected so your phone thinks that is the main keyboard.
Otherwise, you may want to go into keyboard settings and toggle MBraille off 
and then on again to see if that helps.



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Paula Jordan
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Subject: MBraille keyboard disappeared

Hi all.  It seems that my MBraille keyboard has disappeared.  I’m running IOS 
12.4.1.  I’ve also sometimes been using my focus 14 to write texts.  Is there 
any correlation?  I’ve shut my phone down using just the screen lock button.  
That doesn’t seem to have fixed the problem   Any thoughts?
God bless!
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MBraille keyboard disappeared

2019-09-07 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Hi all.  It seems that my MBraille keyboard has disappeared.  I’m running
IOS 12.4.1.  I’ve also sometimes been using my focus 14 to write texts.  Is
there any correlation?  I’ve shut my phone down using just the screen lock
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God bless!

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Re: MBraille - how to dismiss keyboard?

2019-08-19 Thread Richard Turner
It is harder. It needs to be a very short, quick, swipe.
Keep at it.

Richard

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On Aug 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Thanks, Richard. I’ve now got the gesture to work a couple of times, perhaps 
once every ten tries! It seems harder to master than any three finger swipe 
I’ve ever come across before. I’ll carry on practising!
Harry

On 19 Aug 2019, at 12:59, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I use away mode, and the dismiss keyboard gesture is to do a short, three 
finger swipe toward the charging port which is facing my right hand.
I'm not sure what it is if you are using piano/table top mode.


Richard

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On Aug 19, 2019, at 1:23 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Can anyone tell me how to dismiss the MBraille keyboard when using it as a 
third party keyboard either in the Notes or Mail app? I’m using it on iPhone XS 
iOS 12.4 using the Full Version. When I’m in those apps, I type and voiceover 
reads out what I am typing, but if I then change back to uk keyboard, no text 
has been entered. I have given MBraille full access, so I am puzzled. Does me 
changing keyboard delete what I’ve typed? Or is there a gesture I should know 
to dismiss the keyboard and force MBraille to enter what I’ve typed?
Thanks
Harry
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Re: MBraille - how to dismiss keyboard?

2019-08-19 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Thanks, Richard. I’ve now got the gesture to work a couple of times, perhaps 
once every ten tries! It seems harder to master than any three finger swipe 
I’ve ever come across before. I’ll carry on practising!
Harry

> On 19 Aug 2019, at 12:59, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I use away mode, and the dismiss keyboard gesture is to do a short, three 
> finger swipe toward the charging port which is facing my right hand.
> I'm not sure what it is if you are using piano/table top mode.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 1:23 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me how to dismiss the MBraille keyboard when using it as a 
>> third party keyboard either in the Notes or Mail app? I’m using it on iPhone 
>> XS iOS 12.4 using the Full Version. When I’m in those apps, I type and 
>> voiceover reads out what I am typing, but if I then change back to uk 
>> keyboard, no text has been entered. I have given MBraille full access, so I 
>> am puzzled. Does me changing keyboard delete what I’ve typed? Or is there a 
>> gesture I should know to dismiss the keyboard and force MBraille to enter 
>> what I’ve typed?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
>> T
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Re: MBraille - how to dismiss keyboard?

2019-08-19 Thread Richard Turner
I use away mode, and the dismiss keyboard gesture is to do a short, three 
finger swipe toward the charging port which is facing my right hand.
I'm not sure what it is if you are using piano/table top mode.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Aug 19, 2019, at 1:23 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

Can anyone tell me how to dismiss the MBraille keyboard when using it as a 
third party keyboard either in the Notes or Mail app? I’m using it on iPhone XS 
iOS 12.4 using the Full Version. When I’m in those apps, I type and voiceover 
reads out what I am typing, but if I then change back to uk keyboard, no text 
has been entered. I have given MBraille full access, so I am puzzled. Does me 
changing keyboard delete what I’ve typed? Or is there a gesture I should know 
to dismiss the keyboard and force MBraille to enter what I’ve typed?
Thanks
Harry
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MBraille - how to dismiss keyboard?

2019-08-19 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Can anyone tell me how to dismiss the MBraille keyboard when using it as a 
third party keyboard either in the Notes or Mail app? I’m using it on iPhone XS 
iOS 12.4 using the Full Version. When I’m in those apps, I type and voiceover 
reads out what I am typing, but if I then change back to uk keyboard, no text 
has been entered. I have given MBraille full access, so I am puzzled. Does me 
changing keyboard delete what I’ve typed? Or is there a gesture I should know 
to dismiss the keyboard and force MBraille to enter what I’ve typed?
Thanks
Harry
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Only MBraille Full Version works in iOS 13 latest beta?

2019-08-04 Thread Harry Bell
On my iPad 6th generation running latest beta of ipadOS,  I could not get the 
free version of MBraille to copy text to Clipboard when I closed the app. I had 
the same problem on my iPhone 7 running latest public beta of iOS 13. So I 
upgraded my iPad to MBraille Full Version - and now it copies text to Clipboard 
when closing with no problems. But my iPhone 7, using the free version, still 
copies nothing to Clipboard and wherever I go to try to paste the text typed in 
MBraille keyboard, there is a confirmatory sound as I Double tap the Paste 
option in the rotor settings but no text appears. 
Cheers
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RE: MBraille setup?

2019-03-10 Thread Richard Turner
Yes it does.
Here is the developers Email address:
His name is Harri, spelled with an I rather than a y at the end.
ha...@mpaja.com

Richard

-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 1:02 AM
To: Abridged Recipients 
Subject: MBraille setup?

Does MBraille app work any more in iOS 12.1.4? I can start initialising the 
keyboard on iPhone or iPad but there seems no way to finish initialising nor 
any way to get any step by step tutorial about setting it up, as this is not 
covered in the Help section. In App Store, the App Support button merely leads 
to an advert for another product rather than a way to contact developer. Help, 
anyone?
Thanks
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MBraille setup?

2019-03-10 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
Does MBraille app work any more in iOS 12.1.4? I can start initialising the 
keyboard on iPhone or iPad but there seems no way to finish initialising nor 
any way to get any step by step tutorial about setting it up, as this is not 
covered in the Help section. In App Store, the App Support button merely leads 
to an advert for another product rather than a way to contact developer. Help, 
anyone?
Thanks
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Re: for those who use MBraille

2017-09-22 Thread Richard Turner
Hi,
I am replying using MBraille.
I have had no trouble with it.
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Sep 22, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan 
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Hi all. I’m Just wondering if anyone has found any major bugs in IOS 11 while 
using MBraille.  I use it many times a day and don’t want to  update if there 
are any major bugs with it.  Thanks.
God bless!
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for those who use MBraille

2017-09-22 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Hi all. I'm Just wondering if anyone has found any major bugs in IOS 11
while using MBraille.  I use it many times a day and don't want to  update
if there are any major bugs with it.  Thanks.

God bless!

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Re: MBraille

2017-05-31 Thread Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎
Yes. It's happands to me wen hints is active.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-31 במאי 2017, בשעה 20:52, ‏‏ruby alphonse ‏<rubyalpho...@gmail.com> כתב/ה:‬

> Hello all, This is Ruby from Bangalore India, I checked archive mails
> of buying full version of MBraille I couldn't find, I have downloaded
> free version of MBraille, I quite like it, so I need to buy full
> version. I entered where in the option on the left most says Shop and
> when I entered on full version is RS 3100 I have full details of my
> Master debit card everything I did correctly, but every time it says,
> payment is declined, please press on continue and update your payment
> method, I don't know what to do, I am disappointed, I can buy so well
> other apps on my iPhone so well, only why I am not able to buy
> MBraille I am upset. please can anyone help? I would be much obliged.
> Thanks in advance, Ruby
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MBraille

2017-05-31 Thread ruby alphonse
Hello all, This is Ruby from Bangalore India, I checked archive mails
of buying full version of MBraille I couldn't find, I have downloaded
free version of MBraille, I quite like it, so I need to buy full
version. I entered where in the option on the left most says Shop and
when I entered on full version is RS 3100 I have full details of my
Master debit card everything I did correctly, but every time it says,
payment is declined, please press on continue and update your payment
method, I don't know what to do, I am disappointed, I can buy so well
other apps on my iPhone so well, only why I am not able to buy
MBraille I am upset. please can anyone help? I would be much obliged.
Thanks in advance, Ruby

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RE: MBraille Not Working Well in IOS 10

2016-10-02 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
I am using MBraille for all text and email messages on an IPhone 6 running 
10.02 and having no difficulty.

God bless!

Paula and Boston

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille Not Working Well in IOS 10

 

I had tried re-installing it before sending my message, I just did the reset, 
and it crashed 3 or 4 times before I could get this  reply written. I am using 
the Apple braille input to  write this message. I don't know, I am going to 
wait until the next MBraille update to see if it fixes it. I am glad it seems 
to be more an individual phone issue. 

 

Arnold Schmidt

 



Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone


On Oct 2, 2016, at 9:12 AM, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

I do not use the third party keyboard, but use the app on a daily basis.

MBraille has not crashed at all since I have upgraded to iOS 10.

 

Have you tried the common things like resetting your phone by holding down the 
power and home buttons for 10 seconds, or deleting the app, then reinstalling 
it?

Note, if using an iPhone 7 series, to reset your phone, you have to hold down 
the power and volume down buttons since the changes to the home button.

 

Chris

 


On Oct 2, 2016, at 12:16 AM, Arnold Schmidt <als5...@gmail.com> wrote:

I hope I am the only one having the problem, but MBraille is not working very 
well in IOS 10. It will crash for no reason, sometimes after only a few 
letters, and I have to start over. It seems especially bad when I am using it 
as a third-party keyboard. Until it can be straightened out, I guess I will 
have to learn  to use Apple's braille screen input. I miss MBraille! I hope I 
am the only one having problems with it.Arnold Schmidt  

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

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Re: MBraille Not Working Well in IOS 10

2016-10-02 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I had tried re-installing it before sending my message, I just did the reset, 
and it crashed 3 or 4 times before I could get this  reply written. I am using 
the Apple braille input to  write this message. I don't know, I am going to 
wait until the next MBraille update to see if it fixes it. I am glad it seems 
to be more an individual phone issue. 

Arnold Schmidt



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On Oct 2, 2016, at 9:12 AM, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:


I do not use the third party keyboard, but use the app on a daily basis.
MBraille has not crashed at all since I have upgraded to iOS 10.

Have you tried the common things like resetting your phone by holding down the 
power and home buttons for 10 seconds, or deleting the app, then reinstalling 
it?
Note, if using an iPhone 7 series, to reset your phone, you have to hold down 
the power and volume down buttons since the changes to the home button.

Chris


> On Oct 2, 2016, at 12:16 AM, Arnold Schmidt <als5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I hope I am the only one having the problem, but MBraille is not working very 
> well in IOS 10. It will crash for no reason, sometimes after only a few 
> letters, and I have to start over. It seems especially bad when I am using it 
> as a third-party keyboard. Until it can be straightened out, I guess I will 
> have to learn  to use Apple's braille screen input. I miss MBraille! I hope I 
> am the only one having problems with it.Arnold Schmidt  
> 
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Re: MBraille Not Working Well in IOS 10

2016-10-02 Thread Robert Hill
Hi Chris, 

Yep, I have removed mBraille, reinstalled it, reenabled settings. 
My next thing might be to restore the phone, start from scratch, but I haven't 
decided about that yet. 

Thanks.  

Bob Hill 

ent from Bob's iPhone 6

> On Oct 2, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am not seeing that problem.  I just tested saving a file to Dropbox, and it 
> saved just fine.  I even went further and open a file, added more text to it, 
> then resaved it to Dropbox, and it saved the changes like it should.
> Have you tried to turn off the Dropbox setting, exit out of MBraille and take 
> it out of the app switcher.  Then start MBraille from scratch and then turn 
> the Dropbox setting back on?
> You might have to delete the app, restart your phone, reinstall MBraille, 
> then restore your purchases.  Maybe something that tells MBraille that you 
> have purchased that feature has gotten corrupted.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 4:37 AM, Robert Hill <molliesda...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am finding that I can’t save files to DropBox.
>> I have m
>> braille settings set to use DropBox, but when I save a file, my mBraille 
>> folder is empty.
>> 
>> Bob Hill
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 4:16 AM, Gordan Radić <razbij...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Arnold!
>>> 
>>> I dont have crashing issues with MBraille. I have some other issues while 
>>> typing, seems like iOS 10 and Plus display won't cooperate as they used to 
>>> and I'm making tones of mistakes if I don't put my fingers precisely right. 
>>> It doesn't happen with the native Braille input. And, I forgot.. I don't 
>>> use MBraille as 3rd party keyboard, I only use it as the standalone app.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> S poštovanjem
>>> Gordan Radić
>>> 
>>>  
>>>
>>> 2.10.2016. u 6:16, Arnold Schmidt je napisao/la:
>>>> I hope I am the only one having the problem, but MBraille is not working 
>>>> very well in IOS 10. It will crash for no reason, sometimes after only a 
>>>> few letters, and I have to start over. It seems especially bad when I am 
>>>> using it as a third-party keyboard. Until it can be straightened out, I 
>>>> guess I will have to learn  to use Apple's braille screen input. I miss 
>>>> MBraille! I hope I am the only one having problems with it.Arnold Schmidt  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>>>> 
>>> 
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Re: MBraille Not Working Well in IOS 10

2016-10-02 Thread Chris Chaffin

I am not seeing that problem.  I just tested saving a file to Dropbox, and it 
saved just fine.  I even went further and open a file, added more text to it, 
then resaved it to Dropbox, and it saved the changes like it should.
Have you tried to turn off the Dropbox setting, exit out of MBraille and take 
it out of the app switcher.  Then start MBraille from scratch and then turn the 
Dropbox setting back on?
You might have to delete the app, restart your phone, reinstall MBraille, then 
restore your purchases.  Maybe something that tells MBraille that you have 
purchased that feature has gotten corrupted.

Chris


> On Oct 2, 2016, at 4:37 AM, Robert Hill <molliesda...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am finding that I can’t save files to DropBox.
> I have m
> braille settings set to use DropBox, but when I save a file, my mBraille 
> folder is empty.
> 
> Bob Hill
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2016, at 4:16 AM, Gordan Radić <razbij...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Arnold!
>> 
>> I dont have crashing issues with MBraille. I have some other issues while 
>> typing, seems like iOS 10 and Plus display won't cooperate as they used to 
>> and I'm making tones of mistakes if I don't put my fingers precisely right. 
>> It doesn't happen with the native Braille input. And, I forgot.. I don't use 
>> MBraille as 3rd party keyboard, I only use it as the standalone app.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> S poštovanjem
>> Gordan Radić
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 2.10.2016. u 6:16, Arnold Schmidt je napisao/la:
>>> I hope I am the only one having the problem, but MBraille is not working 
>>> very well in IOS 10. It will crash for no reason, sometimes after only a 
>>> few letters, and I have to start over. It seems especially bad when I am 
>>> using it as a third-party keyboard. Until it can be straightened out, I 
>>> guess I will have to learn  to use Apple's braille screen input. I miss 
>>> MBraille! I hope I am the only one having problems with it.Arnold Schmidt  
>>> 
>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>>> 
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Re: MBraille Not Working Well in IOS 10

2016-10-02 Thread Chris Chaffin

I do not use the third party keyboard, but use the app on a daily basis.
MBraille has not crashed at all since I have upgraded to iOS 10.

Have you tried the common things like resetting your phone by holding down the 
power and home buttons for 10 seconds, or deleting the app, then reinstalling 
it?
Note, if using an iPhone 7 series, to reset your phone, you have to hold down 
the power and volume down buttons since the changes to the home button.

Chris


> On Oct 2, 2016, at 12:16 AM, Arnold Schmidt <als5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I hope I am the only one having the problem, but MBraille is not working very 
> well in IOS 10. It will crash for no reason, sometimes after only a few 
> letters, and I have to start over. It seems especially bad when I am using it 
> as a third-party keyboard. Until it can be straightened out, I guess I will 
> have to learn  to use Apple's braille screen input. I miss MBraille! I hope I 
> am the only one having problems with it.Arnold Schmidt  
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Re: MBraille Not Working Well in IOS 10

2016-10-02 Thread Robert Hill
Hi,

I am finding that I can’t save files to DropBox.
I have m
braille settings set to use DropBox, but when I save a file, my mBraille folder 
is empty.

Bob Hill

> On Oct 2, 2016, at 4:16 AM, Gordan Radić <razbij...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Arnold!
> 
> I dont have crashing issues with MBraille. I have some other issues while 
> typing, seems like iOS 10 and Plus display won't cooperate as they used to 
> and I'm making tones of mistakes if I don't put my fingers precisely right. 
> It doesn't happen with the native Braille input. And, I forgot.. I don't use 
> MBraille as 3rd party keyboard, I only use it as the standalone app.
> 
> 
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić <mailto://gordan.ra...@gmail.com>
>  <http://www.nemoviz.org/> 
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> 2.10.2016. u 6:16, Arnold Schmidt je napisao/la:
>> I hope I am the only one having the problem, but MBraille is not working 
>> very well in IOS 10. It will crash for no reason, sometimes after only a few 
>> letters, and I have to start over. It seems especially bad when I am using 
>> it as a third-party keyboard. Until it can be straightened out, I guess I 
>> will have to learn  to use Apple's braille screen input. I miss MBraille! I 
>> hope I am the only one having problems with it.Arnold Schmidt  
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>> 
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Re: MBraille Not Working Well in IOS 10

2016-10-02 Thread Gordan Radić

  
  
Hi, Arnold!
I dont have crashing issues with MBraille. I have some other
  issues while typing, seems like iOS 10 and Plus display won't
  cooperate as they used to and I'm making tones of mistakes if I
  don't put my fingers precisely right. It doesn't happen with the
  native Braille input. And, I forgot.. I don't use MBraille as 3rd
  party keyboard, I only use it as the standalone app.





  S poštovanjem
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2.10.2016. u 6:16, Arnold Schmidt je
  napisao/la:


  I hope I am the only one having the problem, but MBraille is not working very well in IOS 10. It will crash for no reason, sometimes after only a few letters, and I have to start over. It seems especially bad when I am using it as a third-party keyboard. Until it can be straightened out, I guess I will have to learn  to use Apple's braille screen input. I miss MBraille! I hope I am the only one having problems with it.Arnold Schmidt  

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MBraille Not Working Well in IOS 10

2016-10-01 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I hope I am the only one having the problem, but MBraille is not working very 
well in IOS 10. It will crash for no reason, sometimes after only a few 
letters, and I have to start over. It seems especially bad when I am using it 
as a third-party keyboard. Until it can be straightened out, I guess I will 
have to learn  to use Apple's braille screen input. I miss MBraille! I hope I 
am the only one having problems with it.Arnold Schmidt  

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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-25 Thread SoonerAnnie
Yea!!! Thanks for the heads up! Something to look forward to. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Greg Wocher <gwoc...@gwocher.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> From what I have seen posted in other places, in iOS10 voiceover will echo 
> typing with contracted braille. It is something I too have been wanting 
> especially since BSI supports UEB.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On 8/25/2016 4:46 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:
>> OK, I guess you just have to abandon the Third Party keyboard and use the 
>> original keyboard, pasting to whatever item you want. I would do that rather 
>> than not having mBraille at all.
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25/08/2016 01:31, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>> That would be a great idea, Carol, but absolutely nothing works with the 
>>> 3rd party keyboard! It is totally incompatible with my phone! Every time I 
>>> try typing anything from it, it disappears almost immediately. In other 
>>> words, it consistently crashes, no matter what. I don't know if it hates my 
>>> phone or if my phone hates it, but it's one or the other. I figured if it 
>>> would work on one phone, it would work on another, but obviously not.
>>> 
>>> I'm so glad I h the Braille Screen Input! And if Apple would fix it to 
>>> where it spoke when typing in contracted Braille, I wdn't ever care about 
>>> another keyboard again! Smile!
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:53 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> TThe last I ever heard from Harri on the subject, soon after the Third 
>>>> Party keyboard came in, was that some apps worked and some, it was found, 
>>>> were better not to use it. Perhaps you should take this approach and see 
>>>> what never crashes and avoid those that do!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Carol P
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23/08/2016 02:08, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
>>>>> thankful that there are so many workarounds.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
>>>>> probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear 
>>>>> Harri's thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and 
>>>>> everything, so trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have 
>>>>> the regular MBraille keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen 
>>>>> input. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ann
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the 
>>>>>> keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to my text 
>>>>>> and/or I can't get the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to 
>>>>>> use the onboard one at that time for example but the option to select 
>>>>>> another keyboard is not given) The problem with the above senario is 
>>>>>> that then, as soon as I go into an editbox, and it may be just very 
>>>>>> briefly and I don't actually want to write in it, the keyboard believes 
>>>>>> it does have to kick in!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I 
>>>>>> understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just 
>>>>>> writing too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At least on that 
>>>>>> phone you may consider ensuring that the mBraille keyboard is in fact as 
>>>>>> strategically placed as possible so you can go for that, rather than the 
>>>>>> Third Party option.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have 
>>>>>> problems with mine from time to time, but this may give you

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-25 Thread SoonerAnnie

Hi Richard, I did respond to Harri's message and it went through as I did see 
it on the list. I am using the away mode and orientation is locked. My SE is 
the only device I have had trouble with the 3rd party keyboard. Thanks. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ann,
> I saw Harri's message a couple days ago.
> I did not see a response from yu on that list.
> What mode are you using?
> Away, Table Top?
> If away, do you have orientation locked?
> 
> I use mBraille on an iPod Touch 6, an iPhone 5s and an iPhone 6 with no 
> issues at all.
> 
> There must be a setting that is different with your 5SE or it has some other 
> issue.
> 
> I hope it gets sorted.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> SoonerAnnie
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
> 
> That would be a great idea, Carol, but absolutely nothing works with the 3rd 
> party keyboard! It is totally incompatible with my phone! Every time I try 
> typing anything from it, it disappears almost immediately. In other words, it 
> consistently crashes, no matter what. I don't know if it hates my phone or if 
> my phone hates it, but it's one or the other. I figured if it would work on 
> one phone, it would work on another, but obviously not. 
> 
> I'm so glad I h the Braille Screen Input! And if Apple would fix it to where 
> it spoke when typing in contracted Braille, I wdn't ever care about another 
> keyboard again! Smile! 
> 
> Ann 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:53 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> TThe last I ever heard from Harri on the subject, soon after the Third Party 
>> keyboard came in, was that some apps worked and some, it was found, were 
>> better not to use it. Perhaps you should take this approach and see what 
>> never crashes and avoid those that do!
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23/08/2016 02:08, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>> Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
>>> thankful that there are so many workarounds.
>>> 
>>> I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
>>> probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear Harri's 
>>> thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and everything, 
>>> so trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have the regular 
>>> MBraille keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen input. :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution.
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the 
>>>> keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to my text 
>>>> and/or I can't get the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to use 
>>>> the onboard one at that time for example but the option to select another 
>>>> keyboard is not given) The problem with the above senario is that then, as 
>>>> soon as I go into an editbox, and it may be just very briefly and I don't 
>>>> actually want to write in it, the keyboard believes it does have to kick 
>>>> in!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I 
>>>> understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just 
>>>> writing too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At least on that 
>>>> phone you may consider ensuring that the mBraille keyboard is in fact as 
>>>> strategically placed as possible so you can go for that, rather than the 
>>>> Third Party option.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have 
>>>> problems with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few things 
>>>> to consider.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hope it might help a little.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, it may 
>>>> be that your mes

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-25 Thread Greg Wocher

Hello,

From what I have seen posted in other places, in iOS10 voiceover will 
echo typing with contracted braille. It is something I too have been 
wanting especially since BSI supports UEB.



Regards,

Greg Wocher


On 8/25/2016 4:46 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:
OK, I guess you just have to abandon the Third Party keyboard and use 
the original keyboard, pasting to whatever item you want. I would do 
that rather than not having mBraille at all.



Carol P



On 25/08/2016 01:31, SoonerAnnie wrote:
That would be a great idea, Carol, but absolutely nothing works with 
the 3rd party keyboard! It is totally incompatible with my phone! 
Every time I try typing anything from it, it disappears almost 
immediately. In other words, it consistently crashes, no matter what. 
I don't know if it hates my phone or if my phone hates it, but it's 
one or the other. I figured if it would work on one phone, it would 
work on another, but obviously not.


I'm so glad I h the Braille Screen Input! And if Apple would fix it 
to where it spoke when typing in contracted Braille, I wdn't ever 
care about another keyboard again! Smile!


Ann

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:53 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:


TThe last I ever heard from Harri on the subject, soon after the 
Third Party keyboard came in, was that some apps worked and some, it 
was found, were better not to use it. Perhaps you should take this 
approach and see what never crashes and avoid those that do!



Carol P




On 23/08/2016 02:08, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want 
but am thankful that there are so many workarounds.


I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) 
There's probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting 
to hear Harri's thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and 
have lives and everything, so trying not to be a pain or be 
impatient. After all, I have the regular MBraille keyboard, as well 
as the trusty Braille screen input. :)


Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution.

Ann

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:


I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of 
the keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to 
my text and/or I can't get the keyboard to set to the next 
(perhaps I need to use the onboard one at that time for example 
but the option to select another keyboard is not given) The 
problem with the above senario is that then, as soon as I go into 
an editbox, and it may be just very briefly and I don't actually 
want to write in it, the keyboard believes it does have to kick in!



Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as 
I understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're 
just writing too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At 
least on that phone you may consider ensuring that the mBraille 
keyboard is in fact as strategically placed as possible so you can 
go for that, rather than the Third Party option.



I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have 
problems with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few 
things to consider.



Hope it might help a little.


BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, 
it may be that your message didn't get there, or Harri hasn't seen 
it. If he had, he'd almost certainly respond, but he doesn't 
always have time to see all messages these days, I don't think.



Anyway, let me know if you find a solution and I'll keep my brain 
ticking as long as it can ...



Cheers now.


Carol P




On 22/08/2016 21:36, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Hi Richard and Carol,

Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I 
go to shop and restore purchases, which gives me access to 
everything as I purchased the full package. And it restores with 
no problem. However, no matter what I'm doing...texting, writing 
a note, or working with email...the results are the same. The 
rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how 
long. Sometimes it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a 
few words. Suddenly without warning it is gone, taking what I 
have written with it. I have no idea why this keyboard seems to 
be incompatible with my SE!


Ann

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:


And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more 
thought for

you if y

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-25 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
OK, I guess you just have to abandon the Third Party keyboard and use 
the original keyboard, pasting to whatever item you want. I would do 
that rather than not having mBraille at all.



Carol P



On 25/08/2016 01:31, SoonerAnnie wrote:

That would be a great idea, Carol, but absolutely nothing works with the 3rd 
party keyboard! It is totally incompatible with my phone! Every time I try 
typing anything from it, it disappears almost immediately. In other words, it 
consistently crashes, no matter what. I don't know if it hates my phone or if 
my phone hates it, but it's one or the other. I figured if it would work on one 
phone, it would work on another, but obviously not.

I'm so glad I h the Braille Screen Input! And if Apple would fix it to where it 
spoke when typing in contracted Braille, I wdn't ever care about another 
keyboard again! Smile!

Ann

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:53 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

TThe last I ever heard from Harri on the subject, soon after the Third Party 
keyboard came in, was that some apps worked and some, it was found, were better 
not to use it. Perhaps you should take this approach and see what never crashes 
and avoid those that do!


Carol P




On 23/08/2016 02:08, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
thankful that there are so many workarounds.

I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear Harri's 
thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and everything, so 
trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have the regular MBraille 
keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen input. :)

Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution.

Ann

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the keyboard, 
I do have more occasions when something happens to my text and/or I can't get 
the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to use the onboard one at that 
time for example but the option to select another keyboard is not given) The 
problem with the above senario is that then, as soon as I go into an editbox, 
and it may be just very briefly and I don't actually want to write in it, the 
keyboard believes it does have to kick in!


Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I understand it, 
writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just writing too quickly for 
things to stay as they ought. At least on that phone you may consider ensuring that the 
mBraille keyboard is in fact as strategically placed as possible so you can go for that, 
rather than the Third Party option.


I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have problems 
with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few things to consider.


Hope it might help a little.


BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, it may be 
that your message didn't get there, or Harri hasn't seen it. If he had, he'd 
almost certainly respond, but he doesn't always have time to see all messages 
these days, I don't think.


Anyway, let me know if you find a solution and I'll keep my brain ticking as 
long as it can ...


Cheers now.


Carol P




On 22/08/2016 21:36, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Hi Richard and Carol,

Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop and 
restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased the full 
package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what I'm 
doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results are the 
same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. Sometimes 
it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. Suddenly without 
warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I have no idea why this 
keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!

Ann

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:

And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for
you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you
working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that
stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an
answer for you.


Cheers.


Carol P




On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Hi all,

I am having

RE: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-24 Thread Richard Turner
Ann,
I saw Harri's message a couple days ago.
I did not see a response from yu on that list.
What mode are you using?
Away, Table Top?
If away, do you have orientation locked?

I use mBraille on an iPod Touch 6, an iPhone 5s and an iPhone 6 with no issues 
at all.

There must be a setting that is different with your 5SE or it has some other 
issue.

I hope it gets sorted.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
SoonerAnnie
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

That would be a great idea, Carol, but absolutely nothing works with the 3rd 
party keyboard! It is totally incompatible with my phone! Every time I try 
typing anything from it, it disappears almost immediately. In other words, it 
consistently crashes, no matter what. I don't know if it hates my phone or if 
my phone hates it, but it's one or the other. I figured if it would work on one 
phone, it would work on another, but obviously not. 

I'm so glad I h the Braille Screen Input! And if Apple would fix it to where it 
spoke when typing in contracted Braille, I wdn't ever care about another 
keyboard again! Smile! 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:53 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> TThe last I ever heard from Harri on the subject, soon after the Third Party 
> keyboard came in, was that some apps worked and some, it was found, were 
> better not to use it. Perhaps you should take this approach and see what 
> never crashes and avoid those that do!
> 
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23/08/2016 02:08, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
>> thankful that there are so many workarounds.
>> 
>> I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
>> probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear Harri's 
>> thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and everything, 
>> so trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have the regular 
>> MBraille keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen input. :)
>> 
>> Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the 
>>> keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to my text and/or 
>>> I can't get the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to use the 
>>> onboard one at that time for example but the option to select another 
>>> keyboard is not given) The problem with the above senario is that then, as 
>>> soon as I go into an editbox, and it may be just very briefly and I don't 
>>> actually want to write in it, the keyboard believes it does have to kick in!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I 
>>> understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just writing 
>>> too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At least on that phone you 
>>> may consider ensuring that the mBraille keyboard is in fact as 
>>> strategically placed as possible so you can go for that, rather than the 
>>> Third Party option.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have problems 
>>> with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few things to consider.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hope it might help a little.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, it may be 
>>> that your message didn't get there, or Harri hasn't seen it. If he had, 
>>> he'd almost certainly respond, but he doesn't always have time to see all 
>>> messages these days, I don't think.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, let me know if you find a solution and I'll keep my brain ticking 
>>> as long as it can ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 22/08/2016 21:36, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>> Hi Richard and Carol,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop 
>>>> and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased 
>>>> the full package. And i

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-24 Thread SoonerAnnie
That would be a great idea, Carol, but absolutely nothing works with the 3rd 
party keyboard! It is totally incompatible with my phone! Every time I try 
typing anything from it, it disappears almost immediately. In other words, it 
consistently crashes, no matter what. I don't know if it hates my phone or if 
my phone hates it, but it's one or the other. I figured if it would work on one 
phone, it would work on another, but obviously not. 

I'm so glad I h the Braille Screen Input! And if Apple would fix it to where it 
spoke when typing in contracted Braille, I wdn't ever care about another 
keyboard again! Smile! 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:53 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> TThe last I ever heard from Harri on the subject, soon after the Third Party 
> keyboard came in, was that some apps worked and some, it was found, were 
> better not to use it. Perhaps you should take this approach and see what 
> never crashes and avoid those that do!
> 
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23/08/2016 02:08, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
>> thankful that there are so many workarounds.
>> 
>> I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
>> probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear Harri's 
>> thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and everything, 
>> so trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have the regular 
>> MBraille keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen input. :)
>> 
>> Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the 
>>> keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to my text and/or 
>>> I can't get the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to use the 
>>> onboard one at that time for example but the option to select another 
>>> keyboard is not given) The problem with the above senario is that then, as 
>>> soon as I go into an editbox, and it may be just very briefly and I don't 
>>> actually want to write in it, the keyboard believes it does have to kick in!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I 
>>> understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just writing 
>>> too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At least on that phone you 
>>> may consider ensuring that the mBraille keyboard is in fact as 
>>> strategically placed as possible so you can go for that, rather than the 
>>> Third Party option.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have problems 
>>> with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few things to consider.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hope it might help a little.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, it may be 
>>> that your message didn't get there, or Harri hasn't seen it. If he had, 
>>> he'd almost certainly respond, but he doesn't always have time to see all 
>>> messages these days, I don't think.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, let me know if you find a solution and I'll keep my brain ticking 
>>> as long as it can ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 22/08/2016 21:36, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>> Hi Richard and Carol,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop 
>>>> and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased 
>>>> the full package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what 
>>>> I'm doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results 
>>>> are the same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd 
>>>> party keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. 
>>>> Sometimes it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. 
>>>> Suddenly without warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I 
>>>> have no idea why this keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!
>>>> 
>>>&

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-24 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
TThe last I ever heard from Harri on the subject, soon after the Third 
Party keyboard came in, was that some apps worked and some, it was 
found, were better not to use it. Perhaps you should take this approach 
and see what never crashes and avoid those that do!



Carol P



On 23/08/2016 02:08, SoonerAnnie wrote:

Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
thankful that there are so many workarounds.

I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear Harri's 
thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and everything, so 
trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have the regular MBraille 
keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen input. :)

Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution.

Ann

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the keyboard, 
I do have more occasions when something happens to my text and/or I can't get 
the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to use the onboard one at that 
time for example but the option to select another keyboard is not given) The 
problem with the above senario is that then, as soon as I go into an editbox, 
and it may be just very briefly and I don't actually want to write in it, the 
keyboard believes it does have to kick in!


Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I understand it, 
writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just writing too quickly for 
things to stay as they ought. At least on that phone you may consider ensuring that the 
mBraille keyboard is in fact as strategically placed as possible so you can go for that, 
rather than the Third Party option.


I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have problems 
with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few things to consider.


Hope it might help a little.


BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, it may be 
that your message didn't get there, or Harri hasn't seen it. If he had, he'd 
almost certainly respond, but he doesn't always have time to see all messages 
these days, I don't think.


Anyway, let me know if you find a solution and I'll keep my brain ticking as 
long as it can ...


Cheers now.


Carol P




On 22/08/2016 21:36, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Hi Richard and Carol,

Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop and 
restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased the full 
package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what I'm 
doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results are the 
same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. Sometimes 
it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. Suddenly without 
warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I have no idea why this 
keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!

Ann

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:

And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for
you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you
working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that
stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an
answer for you.


Cheers.


Carol P




On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Hi all,

I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille list 
but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see if 
anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able 
to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the MBraille 
keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.

Ann

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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-23 Thread SoonerAnnie
He just wrote and asked me which layout I'm using and also which version of IOS 
I was running. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2016, at 3:35 AM, Jeremy <jeremy.richar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have to agree. I recently wrote the author of Mbraille a very detailed 
> email message in regards to his app not working well with edit fields in a 
> very popular taxi app, and his reply? The following four words: "Thanks for 
> the feedback." 
> 
> He offered no solution nor any idea as to whether he too can replicate the 
> problem. This would have been very poor customer service for an app which 
> cost just a couple of dollars, but Mbraille is about $50 when you purchase 
> all the add-ons, so the software developer's reply is actually very 
> insulting. 
> 
> JR
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brett
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> You wont either, at least not from the author. He is happy to take your money 
> but never gets back when you experience an issue.
> 
> 
> Ever since spell checking became available in the third party keyboard 
> it has never worked for me across two different phones. List members 
> were quite helpful but I got nothing from the author and haven't 
> received a refund since its not working as advertised.
> 
> 
> All I can tell you apart from spell checking, it does work on my SE. In 
> my opinion this app is getting more and more buggy each update, I can't 
> wait to see what disasters iOS10 brings. Lol.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Brett.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/22/2016 8:26 PM, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
>> iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
>> numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
>> MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille 
>> list but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see 
>> if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may 
>> be able to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the 
>> MBraille keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-23 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Hi Brett,

Well, I have known others say that they have, and I have certainly seen a few 
differences now and again, Though not normally, I must admit! Thinking back, I 
remember Jonathan Mosen was one of the unfortunate ones who did not have a 
phone working at one stage following an upgrade, where many of us had no 
problem. When I upgrade, I often am unable to find that the upgrade is 
completed, unless my husband calls my phone, at which point it will ring and I 
find, of course, that the update is complete. I haven't heard of anyone else 
with that problem! Although many experienced double letters with their 
keyboards, some certainly did not. This was a long-standing problem and some 
still have it. Okay, in that case it may be that only certain keyboards were 
affected, but still left us wondering what was going on and what we should do 
about it for for a little while! I don't think anybody quite knows why that 
problem occurred and, maybe, now, at last, it is solved, but I am not sure!… I 
have also noted that some seem to have fairing experiences with the MBraille 
app. One will have no problems in using the third-party keyboard, whilst 
another is struggling and finds that sometimes they are thrown out of what they 
are writing and their work is lost!

I readily accept that there are many reasons for things going wrong and that 
"human error" or "software or hardware failure" can cause a problem and  these 
things can certainly lead to frustration and  folk not being able to solve the 
problem themselves!



Of course we can agree to differ… And I send you greetings and wish you a very 
good evening in doing so!  :-) 

Carol P



On 23 Aug 2016, at 09:07, Brett <brettst...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,


Sorry, I can't agree with the below statement. In all my years of using an 
iPhone, since the 3GS days, I have never seen an app behave differently on one 
phone as opposed to another if they are running the same iOS version.


Cheers,

Brett.



> On 8/23/2016 8:31 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:
> Nobody really knows exactly why ... but often there are irregularities with 
> two phones running the same version of software or the software itself runs 
> well on one and not on the other.
> 
> 
> It's a bit drastic, but if that's your main phone, so it obviously gets more 
> use, you may consider restoring the phone form scratch. This sometimes can 
> work.
> 
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22/08/2016 22:25, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Yes, I've checked it all. Absolutely the only problem I'm having is with the 
>> 3rd party part of the app. Of course, it shows up in the keyboards list and 
>> I can bring it up anytime, but keeping it there is impossible! Right now I'm 
>> using the one on my 6S and it's working like a charm! But the SE is my 
>> primary phone and the one I would really like it to work on so I don't have 
>> to worry about having a keyboard with me when I'm out and about. Thanks for 
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, by restoring, you double checked in the settings, general, keyboard and 
>>> made sure it had full access, right?
>>> 
>>> I just wanted to make sure you had actually checked the settings.
>>> 
>>> If you did and the settings are correct, then perhaps you need to talk 
>>> directly with Apple Accessibility support.
>>> 
>>> I can only imagine how frustrating this is.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of SoonerAnnie
>>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:36 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Richard and Carol,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop 
>>> and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased 
>>> the full package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what 
>>> I'm doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results 
>>> are the same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd 
>>> party keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. 
>>> Sometimes it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. 
>>> Suddenly without warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I 
>>> have no idea why this keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!
>>

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-23 Thread Richard Turner

Did you request a refund through Apple?
They are the only ones who can provide refunds.
itunesstoresupp...@apple.com<mailto:itunesstoresupp...@apple.com>

It is very hard for developers to fix an issue they cannot duplicate. I use 
MBraille on three different devices with no issues. But, Harri certainly could 
respond far better than he does, no question about that. So, on the customer 
service side, I'd agree that his is pretty poor.
But, for me, the app is one of my most used apps by far.
If it doesn't work for you, I think you should get a refund, delete the app, 
and stick with Apple Braille input.
Good luck,
Richard


"Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." -Victor Hugo
(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Aug 23, 2016, at 1:02 AM, Brett 
<brettst...@gmail.com<mailto:brettst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,


You wont either, at least not from the author. He is happy to take your money 
but never gets back when you experience an issue.


Ever since spell checking became available in the third party keyboard it has 
never worked for me across two different phones. List members were quite 
helpful but I got nothing from the author and haven't received a refund since 
its not working as advertised.


All I can tell you apart from spell checking, it does work on my SE. In my 
opinion this app is getting more and more buggy each update, I can't wait to 
see what disasters iOS10 brings. Lol.


Cheers,

Brett.



On 8/22/2016 8:26 PM, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Hi all,

I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille list 
but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see if 
anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able 
to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the MBraille 
keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.

Ann

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RE: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-23 Thread Jeremy
I have to agree. I recently wrote the author of Mbraille a very detailed email 
message in regards to his app not working well with edit fields in a very 
popular taxi app, and his reply? The following four words: "Thanks for the 
feedback." 

He offered no solution nor any idea as to whether he too can replicate the 
problem. This would have been very poor customer service for an app which cost 
just a couple of dollars, but Mbraille is about $50 when you purchase all the 
add-ons, so the software developer's reply is actually very insulting. 

JR

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

Hi,


You wont either, at least not from the author. He is happy to take your money 
but never gets back when you experience an issue.


Ever since spell checking became available in the third party keyboard 
it has never worked for me across two different phones. List members 
were quite helpful but I got nothing from the author and haven't 
received a refund since its not working as advertised.


All I can tell you apart from spell checking, it does work on my SE. In 
my opinion this app is getting more and more buggy each update, I can't 
wait to see what disasters iOS10 brings. Lol.


Cheers,

Brett.



On 8/22/2016 8:26 PM, SoonerAnnie wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
> iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
> numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
> MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille 
> list but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see 
> if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may be 
> able to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the MBraille 
> keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.
>
> Ann
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-23 Thread Brett

Hi,


Sorry, I can't agree with the below statement. In all my years of using 
an iPhone, since the 3GS days, I have never seen an app behave 
differently on one phone as opposed to another if they are running the 
same iOS version.



Cheers,

Brett.



On 8/23/2016 8:31 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone wrote:
Nobody really knows exactly why ... but often there are irregularities 
with two phones running the same version of software or the software 
itself runs well on one and not on the other.



It's a bit drastic, but if that's your main phone, so it obviously 
gets more use, you may consider restoring the phone form scratch. This 
sometimes can work.



Carol PP



On 22/08/2016 22:25, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Yes, I've checked it all. Absolutely the only problem I'm having is 
with the 3rd party part of the app. Of course, it shows up in the 
keyboards list and I can bring it up anytime, but keeping it there is 
impossible! Right now I'm using the one on my 6S and it's working 
like a charm! But the SE is my primary phone and the one I would 
really like it to work on so I don't have to worry about having a 
keyboard with me when I'm out and about. Thanks for suggestions.


Ann

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 22, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:


So, by restoring, you double checked in the settings, general, 
keyboard and made sure it had full access, right?


I just wanted to make sure you had actually checked the settings.

If you did and the settings are correct, then perhaps you need to 
talk directly with Apple Accessibility support.


I can only imagine how frustrating this is.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of SoonerAnnie

Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing


Hi Richard and Carol,

Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go 
to shop and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything 
as I purchased the full package. And it restores with no problem. 
However, no matter what I'm doing...texting, writing a note, or 
working with email...the results are the same. The rest of the 
MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party keyboard, it will 
let me begin typing but I never know for how long. Sometimes it's a 
few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. Suddenly without 
warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I have no 
idea why this keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!


Ann

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:


And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?

Richard


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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for
you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you
working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that
stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an
answer for you.


Cheers.


Carol P




On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Hi all,

I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard 
crashing on my iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have 
uninstalled and reinstalled it numerous times on the SE to no 
avail. I am running the latest version of the MBraille app and the 
latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille list but 
haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to 
see if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any 
help you may be able to give me! I'm not having any other crashes 
on my SE, and the MBraille keyboard doesn't crash on my other 
phone. Hmmm.


Ann

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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-23 Thread Brett

Hi,


You wont either, at least not from the author. He is happy to take your 
money but never gets back when you experience an issue.



Ever since spell checking became available in the third party keyboard 
it has never worked for me across two different phones. List members 
were quite helpful but I got nothing from the author and haven't 
received a refund since its not working as advertised.



All I can tell you apart from spell checking, it does work on my SE. In 
my opinion this app is getting more and more buggy each update, I can't 
wait to see what disasters iOS10 brings. Lol.



Cheers,

Brett.



On 8/22/2016 8:26 PM, SoonerAnnie wrote:

Hi all,

I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille list 
but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see if 
anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able 
to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the MBraille 
keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.

Ann

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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-22 Thread SoonerAnnie
Thanks for the ideas and suggestions, Carol! It's not what I want but am 
thankful that there are so many workarounds. 

I know my message got to the MBraille list because I saw it. :) There's 
probably nothing anyone can do, but it would be interesting to hear Harri's 
thoughts. Of course, I know people are busy and have lives and everything, so 
trying not to be a pain or be impatient. After all, I have the regular MBraille 
keyboard, as well as the trusty Braille screen input. :) 

Thanks, all! Will let you know if I figure out or learn a solution. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:42 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the 
> keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to my text and/or I 
> can't get the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to use the onboard 
> one at that time for example but the option to select another keyboard is not 
> given) The problem with the above senario is that then, as soon as I go into 
> an editbox, and it may be just very briefly and I don't actually want to 
> write in it, the keyboard believes it does have to kick in!
> 
> 
> Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I 
> understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just writing 
> too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At least on that phone you may 
> consider ensuring that the mBraille keyboard is in fact as strategically 
> placed as possible so you can go for that, rather than the Third Party option.
> 
> 
> I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have problems 
> with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few things to consider.
> 
> 
> Hope it might help a little.
> 
> 
> BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, it may be 
> that your message didn't get there, or Harri hasn't seen it. If he had, he'd 
> almost certainly respond, but he doesn't always have time to see all messages 
> these days, I don't think.
> 
> 
> Anyway, let me know if you find a solution and I'll keep my brain ticking as 
> long as it can ...
> 
> 
> Cheers now.
> 
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22/08/2016 21:36, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Hi Richard and Carol,
>> 
>> Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop 
>> and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased 
>> the full package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what 
>> I'm doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results are 
>> the same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
>> keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. 
>> Sometimes it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. 
>> Suddenly without warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I 
>> have no idea why this keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
>>> 
>>> OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for
>>> you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you
>>> working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that
>>> stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an
>>> answer for you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carol P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
>>>> iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled 
>>>> it numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version 
>>>> of the MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the 
>>>> MBraille list but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd 
>>>> check to see if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in adva

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-22 Thread SoonerAnnie
Believe it or not, I did that a couple of days ago. I had a feeling it wouldn't 
help, but tried it anyway...and hoped! Actually, I've only had the SE for about 
a month, but like its smaller size, although I still like my 6S very much! 

Just FYI - I tried typing this on my MBraille keyboard but only typed a couple 
of letters before it went bye bye. So now I'm using the good old reliable 
Braille input keyboard! :) 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 5:31 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Nobody really knows exactly why ... but often there are irregularities with 
> two phones running the same version of software or the software itself runs 
> well on one and not on the other.
> 
> 
> It's a bit drastic, but if that's your main phone, so it obviously gets more 
> use, you may consider restoring the phone form scratch. This sometimes can 
> work.
> 
> 
> Carol PP
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22/08/2016 22:25, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Yes, I've checked it all. Absolutely the only problem I'm having is with the 
>> 3rd party part of the app. Of course, it shows up in the keyboards list and 
>> I can bring it up anytime, but keeping it there is impossible! Right now I'm 
>> using the one on my 6S and it's working like a charm! But the SE is my 
>> primary phone and the one I would really like it to work on so I don't have 
>> to worry about having a keyboard with me when I'm out and about. Thanks for 
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, by restoring, you double checked in the settings, general, keyboard and 
>>> made sure it had full access, right?
>>> 
>>> I just wanted to make sure you had actually checked the settings.
>>> 
>>> If you did and the settings are correct, then perhaps you need to talk 
>>> directly with Apple Accessibility support.
>>> 
>>> I can only imagine how frustrating this is.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of SoonerAnnie
>>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:36 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Richard and Carol,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop 
>>> and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased 
>>> the full package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what 
>>> I'm doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results 
>>> are the same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd 
>>> party keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. 
>>> Sometimes it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. 
>>> Suddenly without warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I 
>>> have no idea why this keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
>>>> 
>>>> OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for
>>>> you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you
>>>> working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that
>>>> stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an
>>>> answer for you.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Carol P
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
>>>>> iPhone SE. It 

Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-22 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
I must admit, though I do quite often use the Third Party part of the 
keyboard, I do have more occasions when something happens to my text 
and/or I can't get the keyboard to set to the next (perhaps I need to 
use the onboard one at that time for example but the option to select 
another keyboard is not given) The problem with the above senario is 
that then, as soon as I go into an editbox, and it may be just very 
briefly and I don't actually want to write in it, the keyboard believes 
it does have to kick in!



Hmm! Just another thought on this: The Third Party keyboard is, as I 
understand it, writing in "real time" so it may be that you're just 
writing too quickly for things to stay as they ought. At least on that 
phone you may consider ensuring that the mBraille keyboard is in fact as 
strategically placed as possible so you can go for that, rather than the 
Third Party option.



I know that isn't what you want to do, just as I'd rather not have 
problems with mine from time to time, but this may give you a few things 
to consider.



Hope it might help a little.


BTW: if you still haven't had any responses from the list itself, it may 
be that your message didn't get there, or Harri hasn't seen it. If he 
had, he'd almost certainly respond, but he doesn't always have time to 
see all messages these days, I don't think.



Anyway, let me know if you find a solution and I'll keep my brain 
ticking as long as it can ...



Cheers now.


Carol P



On 22/08/2016 21:36, SoonerAnnie wrote:

Hi Richard and Carol,

Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop and 
restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased the full 
package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what I'm 
doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results are the 
same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. Sometimes 
it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. Suddenly without 
warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I have no idea why this 
keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!

Ann

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:

And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for
you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you
working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that
stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an
answer for you.


Cheers.


Carol P




On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Hi all,

I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille list 
but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see if 
anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able 
to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the MBraille 
keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.

Ann

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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-22 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Nobody really knows exactly why ... but often there are irregularities 
with two phones running the same version of software or the software 
itself runs well on one and not on the other.



It's a bit drastic, but if that's your main phone, so it obviously gets 
more use, you may consider restoring the phone form scratch. This 
sometimes can work.



Carol PP



On 22/08/2016 22:25, SoonerAnnie wrote:

Yes, I've checked it all. Absolutely the only problem I'm having is with the 
3rd party part of the app. Of course, it shows up in the keyboards list and I 
can bring it up anytime, but keeping it there is impossible! Right now I'm 
using the one on my 6S and it's working like a charm! But the SE is my primary 
phone and the one I would really like it to work on so I don't have to worry 
about having a keyboard with me when I'm out and about. Thanks for suggestions.

Ann

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 22, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

So, by restoring, you double checked in the settings, general, keyboard and 
made sure it had full access, right?

I just wanted to make sure you had actually checked the settings.

If you did and the settings are correct, then perhaps you need to talk directly 
with Apple Accessibility support.

I can only imagine how frustrating this is.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
SoonerAnnie
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing


Hi Richard and Carol,

Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop and 
restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased the full 
package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what I'm 
doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results are the 
same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. Sometimes 
it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. Suddenly without 
warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I have no idea why this 
keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE!

Ann

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:

And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for
you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you
working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that
stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an
answer for you.


Cheers.


Carol P




On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
Hi all,

I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille list 
but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see if 
anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able 
to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the MBraille 
keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.

Ann

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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-22 Thread SoonerAnnie

Yes, I've checked it all. Absolutely the only problem I'm having is with the 
3rd party part of the app. Of course, it shows up in the keyboards list and I 
can bring it up anytime, but keeping it there is impossible! Right now I'm 
using the one on my 6S and it's working like a charm! But the SE is my primary 
phone and the one I would really like it to work on so I don't have to worry 
about having a keyboard with me when I'm out and about. Thanks for suggestions. 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> So, by restoring, you double checked in the settings, general, keyboard and 
> made sure it had full access, right?
> 
> I just wanted to make sure you had actually checked the settings.
> 
> If you did and the settings are correct, then perhaps you need to talk 
> directly with Apple Accessibility support.
> 
> I can only imagine how frustrating this is.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> SoonerAnnie
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
> 
> 
> Hi Richard and Carol, 
> 
> Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop 
> and restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased the 
> full package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what I'm 
> doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results are the 
> same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
> keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. 
> Sometimes it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. Suddenly 
> without warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I have no 
> idea why this keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE! 
> 
> Ann 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
>> 
>> OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for 
>> you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you 
>> working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that 
>> stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an 
>> answer for you.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
>>> iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled 
>>> it numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of 
>>> the MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the 
>>> MBraille list but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd 
>>> check to see if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any 
>>> help you may be able to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, 
>>> and the MBraille keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-22 Thread Richard Turner
So, by restoring, you double checked in the settings, general, keyboard and 
made sure it had full access, right?

I just wanted to make sure you had actually checked the settings.

If you did and the settings are correct, then perhaps you need to talk directly 
with Apple Accessibility support.

I can only imagine how frustrating this is.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
SoonerAnnie
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing


Hi Richard and Carol, 

Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop and 
restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased the full 
package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what I'm 
doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results are the 
same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. Sometimes 
it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. Suddenly without 
warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I have no idea why this 
keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE! 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
> 
> OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for 
> you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you 
> working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that 
> stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an 
> answer for you.
> 
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
>> iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
>> numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
>> MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille 
>> list but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see 
>> if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may 
>> be able to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the 
>> MBraille keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-22 Thread SoonerAnnie

Hi Richard and Carol, 

Thanks for getting back to me. Each time I reinstall the app, I go to shop and 
restore purchases, which gives me access to everything as I purchased the full 
package. And it restores with no problem. However, no matter what I'm 
doing...texting, writing a note, or working with email...the results are the 
same. The rest of the MBraille app works just fine. As for the 3rd party 
keyboard, it will let me begin typing but I never know for how long. Sometimes 
it's a few characters and sometimes I can get a few words. Suddenly without 
warning it is gone, taking what I have written with it. I have no idea why this 
keyboard seems to be incompatible with my SE! 

Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing
> 
> OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for 
> you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you 
> working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that 
> stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an 
> answer for you.
> 
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
> 
>> On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
>> iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
>> numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
>> MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille 
>> list but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see 
>> if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may 
>> be able to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the 
>> MBraille keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.
>> 
>> Ann
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-22 Thread Richard Turner
And, did you make sure it had full access in the keyboard settings?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for 
you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you 
working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that 
stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an 
answer for you.


Cheers.


Carol P



On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
> iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
> numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
> MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille 
> list but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see 
> if anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may be 
> able to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the MBraille 
> keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.
>
> Ann
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-22 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
OK. I don't have an answer but will give it a little more thought for 
you if you can think about when it's crashed. In what apps were you 
working at the time? Were you trying to transfer information at that 
stage? Anything else you can say may help me, or others, to find an 
answer for you.



Cheers.


Carol P



On 22/08/2016 11:26, SoonerAnnie wrote:

Hi all,

I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille list 
but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see if 
anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able 
to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the MBraille 
keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm.

Ann

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MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing

2016-08-22 Thread SoonerAnnie
Hi all, 

I am having a problem with the MBraille 3rd party keyboard crashing on my 
iPhone SE. It does just fine on my 6S. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it 
numerous times on the SE to no avail. I am running the latest version of the 
MBraille app and the latest version of IOS. I have written to the MBraille list 
but haven't heard anything from them yet. Just thought I'd check to see if 
anyone here had any suggestions. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able 
to give me! I'm not having any other crashes on my SE, and the MBraille 
keyboard doesn't crash on my other phone. Hmmm. 

Ann 

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RE: Can I Delete MBraille from the Keyboard Choices?

2016-07-11 Thread Jeremy
You may not want to delete MBraille. Simply disable it from within the same 
keyboard settings. You can also disable it from your selection of keyboards. 
 
JR


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Subject: Re: Can I Delete MBraille from the Keyboard Choices?

Hi, Jenny.
Will try.

Thanks,
Dani

On 7/11/16, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Go to settings, general and keyboard then double tap on where it says 
> keyboards 3 or however many number of keyboards you have. Now flick to 
> mBraille and swipe up with one finger then double tap on delete. Hope 
> this helps.
>
>
> Jennie Facer
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:55 PM -0600, "Dani Pagador" 
> <axs@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Hi, Everyone.
> I hardly use MBraille. Can I delete that app's keyboard from the 
> keyboard selection?
>
> Thanks,
> Dani
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Re: Can I Delete MBraille from the Keyboard Choices?

2016-07-11 Thread Dani Pagador
Hi, Jenny.
Will try.

Thanks,
Dani

On 7/11/16, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Go to settings, general and keyboard then double tap on where it says
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> mBraille and swipe up with one finger then double tap on delete. Hope this
> helps.
>
>
> Jennie Facer
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:55 PM -0600, "Dani Pagador" <axs@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi, Everyone.
> I hardly use MBraille. Can I delete that app's keyboard from the
> keyboard selection?
>
> Thanks,
> Dani
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Re: Can I Delete MBraille from the Keyboard Choices?

2016-07-11 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi,
Go to settings, general and keyboard then double tap on where it says keyboards 
3 or however many number of keyboards you have. Now flick to mBraille and swipe 
up with one finger then double tap on delete. Hope this helps.


Jennie Facer




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Hi, Everyone.
I hardly use MBraille. Can I delete that app's keyboard from the
keyboard selection?

Thanks,
Dani

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Can I Delete MBraille from the Keyboard Choices?

2016-07-11 Thread Dani Pagador
Hi, Everyone.
I hardly use MBraille. Can I delete that app's keyboard from the
keyboard selection?

Thanks,
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Re: Problem with deleting in Mbraille

2016-03-22 Thread Regina Alvarado

Woohoo, small thing for me to be in home screen until fixed. Thank you so much 
Anna. I use mBraille constantly, and frustration was my name with this. Thanks 
again.

reggie & Lex

On Mar 22, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:

Hi Regina,

I've noticed that it's much easier to inadvertently bring up Control Center in 
iOS 9.3 than in previous versions. You can stop this by going to Settings, 
choosing Control Center, and turning off Access Within Apps. The only down side 
is that you will now have to be on a home screen to open Control Center.

Best,
Anna



> On Mar 22, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am writing this in the mail app. Seems to be fine so far. However, in the 
> native app of mBraille, if I delete one letter at a time somewhere in the 
> deletion suddenly it will say "control center" and the control center will 
> come up. As I said, this is happening in the native app. It messes everything 
> up trying to write as it just comes all of a sudden. I am in a 6s using 9.3. 
> Any thoughts helpful and thanks. I will now go and hard re-boot to see if it 
> stops this problem.
> 
> reggie & Lex
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Re: Problem with deleting in Mbraille

2016-03-22 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Regina,

I've noticed that it's much easier to inadvertently bring up Control Center in 
iOS 9.3 than in previous versions. You can stop this by going to Settings, 
choosing Control Center, and turning off Access Within Apps. The only down side 
is that you will now have to be on a home screen to open Control Center.

Best,
Anna



> On Mar 22, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am writing this in the mail app. Seems to be fine so far. However, in the 
> native app of mBraille, if I delete one letter at a time somewhere in the 
> deletion suddenly it will say "control center" and the control center will 
> come up. As I said, this is happening in the native app. It messes everything 
> up trying to write as it just comes all of a sudden. I am in a 6s using 9.3. 
> Any thoughts helpful and thanks. I will now go and hard re-boot to see if it 
> stops this problem.
> 
> reggie & Lex
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Re: Problem with deleting in Mbraille

2016-03-22 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi Regie,

I have the same problem on my iPad mini 4. I haven't messed with the native app 
on my phone for a while. I don't think it's you. 

Jennie Facer

> On Mar 22, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am writing this in the mail app. Seems to be fine so far. However, in the 
> native app of mBraille, if I delete one letter at a time somewhere in the 
> deletion suddenly it will say "control center" and the control center will 
> come up. As I said, this is happening in the native app. It messes everything 
> up trying to write as it just comes all of a sudden. I am in a 6s using 9.3. 
> Any thoughts helpful and thanks. I will now go and hard re-boot to see if it 
> stops this problem.
> 
> reggie & Lex
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Problem with deleting in Mbraille

2016-03-22 Thread Regina Alvarado

I am writing this in the mail app. Seems to be fine so far. However, in the 
native app of mBraille, if I delete one letter at a time somewhere in the 
deletion suddenly it will say "control center" and the control center will come 
up. As I said, this is happening in the native app. It messes everything up 
trying to write as it just comes all of a sudden. I am in a 6s using 9.3. Any 
thoughts helpful and thanks. I will now go and hard re-boot to see if it stops 
this problem.

reggie & Lex

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Re: ANYONE OUT THERE USE MBRAILLE, CALENDAR FEATURE, with Fantastical, please?

2016-02-16 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hello Carol,

Glad you are having some success adding things to your calendar.
I went from an iPhone 5 to an iPhone 6, and it was also a little different for 
me when typing in MBraille.  I do not think it was sensitivity for me, instead, 
I think it was the bigger screen.  On the bigger screen, the dots are not quite 
as close together, so that was something I had to get use too.
Going from a 4s to a 6s, you definitely have more screen to work with.  So 
hopefully with time and practice, you will get better and more comfortable just 
like you were with the 4s.

I am always willing to help in any way I can, so feel free to let me know if 
you ever have more questions.

Chris Chaffin


> On Feb 16, 2016, at 10:13 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Just thought I'd let you know I'm getting there, rather slowly ...
> 
> I think my 6S is more sensitive (touch-wise) than the old 4S so have to watch 
> what I'm writing.
> 
> I've done one input which spans a few days, only to find the next morning 
> that someone has changed it ...
> 
> I haven't yet used location, or added notes.
> 
> I'm definitely going to think of adding some of these to my history list, or 
> maybe as alias's, with a sign where items need to be inserted.
> 
> Thanks again for all your help.
> 
> Carol P
> 
>> On 09/02/2016 23:02, Chris Chaffin wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Sorry you are still having problems.
>> 
>> I did notice that for the month you just entered 2, but it should be 02.
>> Now I typed in what you said, with the exception of putting 02 instead of 
>> just 2, and it did work for me, it just put the appointment on November 2, 
>> and not February 11.
>> 
>> So try typing:
>> 
>> .cal "Allison, Guide Dogs" "11-02-2016 11:00"
>> 
>> I hope this helps!
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2016, at 5:46 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> I've tried some more and still can't get this to work.
>>> 
>>> I've used uncontracted Braille (even throughout) and am in the UK, so date 
>>> format is dd-mm-yy!
>>> 
>>> My last entry tried was
>>> .cal "Alison, Guide Dogs" "11-2-2016 11:00"
>>> This, hopefully, was to schedule Alison from Guide Dogs to come at 11:00 on 
>>> 11th February 2016.
>>> 
>>> I've also tried the 02 approach for the month.
>>> 
>>> I'm trying an "Enter" when completed, but have tried three-finger swipe 
>>> left, all without success.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> I've never got this to work here in the UK and so am very keen to learn if 
>>> anyone else in the UK has got the calendar to work reliably and of course 
>>> to hear from you on what you think I may be doing incorrectly.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to you and anyone else who chimes in with any further help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 08/02/2016 20:32, Chris Chaffin wrote:
>>>> I just tried using the dot cal feature in MBraille and it worked for me 
>>>> just fine.
>>>> I used the examples in the help section as a guide.
>>>> 
>>>> First, it works better when you use grade 1 braille to enter the dot cal 
>>>> command.
>>>> I did notice that after typing the start date, I had to do a letter sign 
>>>> dots 4 6 before typing the quotation mark, or the quotation mark would 
>>>> automatically disappear.
>>>> 
>>>> I scheduled a meeting for tomorrow at 1 PM with an alert of 30 minutes, 
>>>> and a location of Office.  I typed this into MBraille:
>>>> .cal Meeting "2016-02-09 13:00" alert 30 min location: Office
>>>> 
>>>> If you tell me what you are trying to enter, then I will be happy to help 
>>>> you figure out what you need to write to add the event to your calendar.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:54 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm having difficulty getting those command lines to work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope to hear from someone on this.  Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Carol P
>>>>> 
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Re: ANYONE OUT THERE USE MBRAILLE, CALENDAR FEATURE, with Fantastical, please?

2016-02-16 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

Just thought I'd let you know I'm getting there, rather slowly ...

I think my 6S is more sensitive (touch-wise) than the old 4S so have to 
watch what I'm writing.


I've done one input which spans a few days, only to find the next 
morning that someone has changed it ...


I haven't yet used location, or added notes.

I'm definitely going to think of adding some of these to my history 
list, or maybe as alias's, with a sign where items need to be inserted.


Thanks again for all your help.

Carol P

On 09/02/2016 23:02, Chris Chaffin wrote:

Hello,

Sorry you are still having problems.

I did notice that for the month you just entered 2, but it should be 02.
Now I typed in what you said, with the exception of putting 02 instead of just 
2, and it did work for me, it just put the appointment on November 2, and not 
February 11.

So try typing:

.cal "Allison, Guide Dogs" "11-02-2016 11:00"

I hope this helps!

Chris



On Feb 9, 2016, at 5:46 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Chris,

I've tried some more and still can't get this to work.

I've used uncontracted Braille (even throughout) and am in the UK, so date 
format is dd-mm-yy!

My last entry tried was
.cal "Alison, Guide Dogs" "11-2-2016 11:00"
This, hopefully, was to schedule Alison from Guide Dogs to come at 11:00 on 
11th February 2016.

I've also tried the 02 approach for the month.

I'm trying an "Enter" when completed, but have tried three-finger swipe left, 
all without success.

Any ideas?

I've never got this to work here in the UK and so am very keen to learn if 
anyone else in the UK has got the calendar to work reliably and of course to 
hear from you on what you think I may be doing incorrectly.

Thanks to you and anyone else who chimes in with any further help.



On 08/02/2016 20:32, Chris Chaffin wrote:
I just tried using the dot cal feature in MBraille and it worked for me just 
fine.
I used the examples in the help section as a guide.

First, it works better when you use grade 1 braille to enter the dot cal 
command.
I did notice that after typing the start date, I had to do a letter sign dots 4 
6 before typing the quotation mark, or the quotation mark would automatically 
disappear.

I scheduled a meeting for tomorrow at 1 PM with an alert of 30 minutes, and a 
location of Office.  I typed this into MBraille:
.cal Meeting "2016-02-09 13:00" alert 30 min location: Office

If you tell me what you are trying to enter, then I will be happy to help you 
figure out what you need to write to add the event to your calendar.

Hope this helps,

Chris



On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:54 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I'm having difficulty getting those command lines to work.

Hope to hear from someone on this.  Thanks.

Carol P

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Re: ANYONE OUT THERE USE MBRAILLE, CALENDAR FEATURE, with Fantastical, please?

2016-02-11 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

Hi Chris,

Further to the last messages, I did get it to work with the 0 included, 
thanks, but then that was a random time. Mostly it's not working for me.


In trying to troubleshoot the problem, I've tried to be careful and 
check what I've written. (I'm usually pretty accurate with the app, but 
can make mistakes, I know, so have allowed for those.


Nevertheless, I am not getting the calendar to work very often at all.

I've turned off some of my other calendars, leaving only the Facebook 
and birthday ones and have also ensured that the calendar is already 
loaded before I start to use mBraille.


I did get it to work once with more than one word in the subject line 
and without using quotes, but that must be a sheer fluke, because I 
haven't done it since; but, as I say, it's not working reliably for me, 
nor have I ever got it to do so.


I did ask Harri about it ages ago but didn't get any further than I have 
now.


Do you or does anyone else have suggestions from here as I really do 
want to use it?


If nobody has suggestions, of course, I'll stop bombarding the list with 
more messages and do thank you, Chris, for your help so far.


I hope however that someone can come up with a solution.

Carol P

On 09/02/2016 23:02, Chris Chaffin wrote:

Hello,

Sorry you are still having problems.

I did notice that for the month you just entered 2, but it should be 02.
Now I typed in what you said, with the exception of putting 02 instead of just 
2, and it did work for me, it just put the appointment on November 2, and not 
February 11.

So try typing:

.cal "Allison, Guide Dogs" "11-02-2016 11:00"

I hope this helps!

Chris



On Feb 9, 2016, at 5:46 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Chris,

I've tried some more and still can't get this to work.

I've used uncontracted Braille (even throughout) and am in the UK, so date 
format is dd-mm-yy!

My last entry tried was
.cal "Alison, Guide Dogs" "11-2-2016 11:00"
This, hopefully, was to schedule Alison from Guide Dogs to come at 11:00 on 
11th February 2016.

I've also tried the 02 approach for the month.

I'm trying an "Enter" when completed, but have tried three-finger swipe left, 
all without success.

Any ideas?

I've never got this to work here in the UK and so am very keen to learn if 
anyone else in the UK has got the calendar to work reliably and of course to 
hear from you on what you think I may be doing incorrectly.

Thanks to you and anyone else who chimes in with any further help.



On 08/02/2016 20:32, Chris Chaffin wrote:
I just tried using the dot cal feature in MBraille and it worked for me just 
fine.
I used the examples in the help section as a guide.

First, it works better when you use grade 1 braille to enter the dot cal 
command.
I did notice that after typing the start date, I had to do a letter sign dots 4 
6 before typing the quotation mark, or the quotation mark would automatically 
disappear.

I scheduled a meeting for tomorrow at 1 PM with an alert of 30 minutes, and a 
location of Office.  I typed this into MBraille:
.cal Meeting "2016-02-09 13:00" alert 30 min location: Office

If you tell me what you are trying to enter, then I will be happy to help you 
figure out what you need to write to add the event to your calendar.

Hope this helps,

Chris



On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:54 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I'm having difficulty getting those command lines to work.

Hope to hear from someone on this.  Thanks.

Carol P

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Re: ANYONE OUT THERE USE MBRAILLE, CALENDAR FEATURE, with Fantastical, please?

2016-02-09 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

Hi Chris,

I've tried some more and still can't get this to work.

I've used uncontracted Braille (even throughout) and am in the UK, so 
date format is dd-mm-yy!


My last entry tried was
.cal "Alison, Guide Dogs" "11-2-2016 11:00"
This, hopefully, was to schedule Alison from Guide Dogs to come at 11:00 
on 11th February 2016.


I've also tried the 02 approach for the month.

I'm trying an "Enter" when completed, but have tried three-finger swipe 
left, all without success.


Any ideas?

I've never got this to work here in the UK and so am very keen to learn 
if anyone else in the UK has got the calendar to work reliably and of 
course to hear from you on what you think I may be doing incorrectly.


Thanks to you and anyone else who chimes in with any further help.


On 08/02/2016 20:32, Chris Chaffin wrote:

I just tried using the dot cal feature in MBraille and it worked for me just 
fine.
I used the examples in the help section as a guide.

First, it works better when you use grade 1 braille to enter the dot cal 
command.
I did notice that after typing the start date, I had to do a letter sign dots 4 
6 before typing the quotation mark, or the quotation mark would automatically 
disappear.

I scheduled a meeting for tomorrow at 1 PM with an alert of 30 minutes, and a 
location of Office.  I typed this into MBraille:
.cal Meeting "2016-02-09 13:00" alert 30 min location: Office

If you tell me what you are trying to enter, then I will be happy to help you 
figure out what you need to write to add the event to your calendar.

Hope this helps,

Chris



On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:54 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I'm having difficulty getting those command lines to work.

Hope to hear from someone on this.  Thanks.

Carol P

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Re: ANYONE OUT THERE USE MBRAILLE, CALENDAR FEATURE, with Fantastical, please?

2016-02-09 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hello,

Sorry you are still having problems.

I did notice that for the month you just entered 2, but it should be 02. 
Now I typed in what you said, with the exception of putting 02 instead of just 
2, and it did work for me, it just put the appointment on November 2, and not 
February 11.

So try typing:

.cal "Allison, Guide Dogs" "11-02-2016 11:00"

I hope this helps!

Chris


> On Feb 9, 2016, at 5:46 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I've tried some more and still can't get this to work.
> 
> I've used uncontracted Braille (even throughout) and am in the UK, so date 
> format is dd-mm-yy!
> 
> My last entry tried was
> .cal "Alison, Guide Dogs" "11-2-2016 11:00"
> This, hopefully, was to schedule Alison from Guide Dogs to come at 11:00 on 
> 11th February 2016.
> 
> I've also tried the 02 approach for the month.
> 
> I'm trying an "Enter" when completed, but have tried three-finger swipe left, 
> all without success.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> I've never got this to work here in the UK and so am very keen to learn if 
> anyone else in the UK has got the calendar to work reliably and of course to 
> hear from you on what you think I may be doing incorrectly.
> 
> Thanks to you and anyone else who chimes in with any further help.
> 
> 
>> On 08/02/2016 20:32, Chris Chaffin wrote:
>> I just tried using the dot cal feature in MBraille and it worked for me just 
>> fine.
>> I used the examples in the help section as a guide.
>> 
>> First, it works better when you use grade 1 braille to enter the dot cal 
>> command.
>> I did notice that after typing the start date, I had to do a letter sign 
>> dots 4 6 before typing the quotation mark, or the quotation mark would 
>> automatically disappear.
>> 
>> I scheduled a meeting for tomorrow at 1 PM with an alert of 30 minutes, and 
>> a location of Office.  I typed this into MBraille:
>> .cal Meeting "2016-02-09 13:00" alert 30 min location: Office
>> 
>> If you tell me what you are trying to enter, then I will be happy to help 
>> you figure out what you need to write to add the event to your calendar.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:54 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>>> I'm having difficulty getting those command lines to work.
>>> 
>>> Hope to hear from someone on this.  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Carol P
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ANYONE OUT THERE USE MBRAILLE, CALENDAR FEATURE, with Fantastical, please?

2016-02-08 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

I'm having difficulty getting those command lines to work.

Hope to hear from someone on this.  Thanks.

Carol P

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Re: ANYONE OUT THERE USE MBRAILLE, CALENDAR FEATURE, with Fantastical, please?

2016-02-08 Thread Chris Chaffin
I just tried using the dot cal feature in MBraille and it worked for me just 
fine.
I used the examples in the help section as a guide.

First, it works better when you use grade 1 braille to enter the dot cal 
command.
I did notice that after typing the start date, I had to do a letter sign dots 4 
6 before typing the quotation mark, or the quotation mark would automatically 
disappear.

I scheduled a meeting for tomorrow at 1 PM with an alert of 30 minutes, and a 
location of Office.  I typed this into MBraille:
.cal Meeting "2016-02-09 13:00" alert 30 min location: Office

If you tell me what you are trying to enter, then I will be happy to help you 
figure out what you need to write to add the event to your calendar.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:54 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
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> I'm having difficulty getting those command lines to work.
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> Hope to hear from someone on this.  Thanks.
> 
> Carol P
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Re: ANYONE OUT THERE USE MBRAILLE, CALENDAR FEATURE, with Fantastical, please?

2016-02-08 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Thanks, Chris, I will try again and report back to you. Haps I should write 
privately and not prolong this on the list because of the busyness of it.

Anyway, tomorrow I will do some more playing! Thanks for your prompt reply.

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 8 Feb 2016, at 8:32 pm, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:

I just tried using the dot cal feature in MBraille and it worked for me just 
fine.
I used the examples in the help section as a guide.

First, it works better when you use grade 1 braille to enter the dot cal 
command.
I did notice that after typing the start date, I had to do a letter sign dots 4 
6 before typing the quotation mark, or the quotation mark would automatically 
disappear.

I scheduled a meeting for tomorrow at 1 PM with an alert of 30 minutes, and a 
location of Office.  I typed this into MBraille:
.cal Meeting "2016-02-09 13:00" alert 30 min location: Office

If you tell me what you are trying to enter, then I will be happy to help you 
figure out what you need to write to add the event to your calendar.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:54 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> I'm having difficulty getting those command lines to work.
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> Hope to hear from someone on this.  Thanks.
> 
> Carol P
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Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

2016-01-29 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

Cheryl,

Glad that has helped a little.

I still find it a little too big for me so have to write a little slower 
than I'd like ...


I am wondering whether we'd be better to play on with piano mode. I'll 
do that and come back to you if I have anything positive to say.


Carol P

On 29/01/2016 00:06, Cheryl Lenartiene wrote:

Hi Carol,

Thank you so much for your suggestions! I have locked my phone in 
portrait orientation, and that has improved performance. However, my 
hands are small, and I have found that unless I keep my hands exactly 
centered on the phone, I don't hit all of the dots with all of my 
fingers. In other words, I could be hitting dot 2 with both my index 
and middle fingers, instead of dots one and two, because the 
rectangles for the dots are quite a bit larger on the 6S plus then on 
the 5C.. For this reason, I do find the native Braille screen input a 
little easier. The fact that I can calibrate the dots is a big help, 
because it accommodates my smaller fingers. I will keep practicing, 
though, and I will try holding my phone in the way you suggest. 
Hopefully it will help.



Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
HCSB

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2016, at 3:18 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:



Hi Cheryl,

I'm sending a copy of this to Harri, because I do believe there are 
buggy situations that need us to look more closely.


Harri may want to formulate some tasks for each of us to try out to 
help to squash (improve) this one. You certainly can mess things up 
quite easily ... so I just try to follow my pattern and for me it's 
OK, most of the time.


Read on for what I write in your circumstances, Cheryl:

I too find it more difficult to type on the 6S must my most 
comfortable position is to hold the phone with thumbs and little 
fingers on the edges, near to the corners. In this way you get to 
write with fingers a little more comfortably, I think. I also use the 
"away" mode exclusively as nothing else really works for me, though I 
play with others and can manage tabletop if I'm lying back in a 
chair.  I find piano just too close and, if you use edges of the 
sreen, to try to keep your fingers in order, this doesn't work well 
for me without any dots to guide and I don't have any on my 6S. 
Again, if one could indicate where you want to place the fingers, it 
may work a little better.


I also changed one of the new settings, which is for away" mode to 
ensure the home button stays on the right. In all other circumstances 
I work in locked portrait mode and don't alter it when using 
mBraille. I don't have a split screen.


I have been trying to carry out a few tests and, though I can't work 
out a pattern right now as I'm not well and struggling to write 
anything, I am nevertheless convinced that it does depend on which 
you load first and/or what you're writing into with mBraille as to 
the results you get.


Perhaps Harri may want to take a closer look at this.

For me, I'm happy enough, knowing I don't have a split screen 
(usually anyway) and, when things don't work right, I just take both 
apps out of the switcher and that's usually sufficient.


I hope this helps a bit.

Please return my receipt or come back to me to let me know you have 
both seen this as my desktop doesn't allow me to indicate (as with 
the phone) that I wish to see responses to certain threads.


Carol P


On 26/01/2016 21:44, Cheryl Lenartiene wrote:

Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three 
fingers right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an 
underscore, no matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I 
swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love 
to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the 
inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.
 Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of 
what I write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. 
I use MBraille in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just 
too small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot 
positions, and that's probably why I've had a lot more success using it.
Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For 
example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a 
text field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille 
keyboard and rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away 
from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches 
to the split screen view with contacts on the left and conversations 
on the right.
If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these 
issues, I welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third 
party keyboard, and not just in its standalone form.

Thanks!



Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

2016-01-28 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

Hi Cheryl,

I'm sending a copy of this to Harri, because I do believe there are 
buggy situations that need us to look more closely.


Harri may want to formulate some tasks for each of us to try out to help 
to squash (improve) this one. You certainly can mess things up quite 
easily ... so I just try to follow my pattern and for me it's OK, most 
of the time.


Read on for what I write in your circumstances, Cheryl:

I too find it more difficult to type on the 6S must my most comfortable 
position is to hold the phone with thumbs and little fingers on the 
edges, near to the corners. In this way you get to write with fingers a 
little more comfortably, I think. I also use the "away" mode exclusively 
as nothing else really works for me, though I play with others and can 
manage tabletop if I'm lying back in a chair.  I find piano just too 
close and, if you use edges of the sreen, to try to keep your fingers in 
order, this doesn't work well for me without any dots to guide and I 
don't have any on my 6S. Again, if one could indicate where you want to 
place the fingers, it may work a little better.


I also changed one of the new settings, which is for away" mode to 
ensure the home button stays on the right. In all other circumstances I 
work in locked portrait mode and don't alter it when using mBraille. I 
don't have a split screen.


I have been trying to carry out a few tests and, though I can't work out 
a pattern right now as I'm not well and struggling to write anything, I 
am nevertheless convinced that it does depend on which you load first 
and/or what you're writing into with mBraille as to the results you get.


Perhaps Harri may want to take a closer look at this.

For me, I'm happy enough, knowing I don't have a split screen (usually 
anyway) and, when things don't work right, I just take both apps out of 
the switcher and that's usually sufficient.


I hope this helps a bit.

Please return my receipt or come back to me to let me know you have both 
seen this as my desktop doesn't allow me to indicate (as with the phone) 
that I wish to see responses to certain threads.


Carol P


On 26/01/2016 21:44, Cheryl Lenartiene wrote:

Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three 
fingers right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an 
underscore, no matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I 
swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love 
to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the 
inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.
 Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of 
what I write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I 
use MBraille in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too 
small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, 
and that's probably why I've had a lot more success using it.
Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For 
example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a 
text field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille 
keyboard and rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away 
from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to 
the split screen view with contacts on the left and conversations on 
the right.
If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, 
I welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party 
keyboard, and not just in its standalone form.

Thanks!


Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
HCSB

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Brett <brettst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:brettst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I 
bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app 
it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, 
but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have 
purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.


For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard 
never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, 
if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't 
waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support 
from apps that were free.


Cheers, Brett.


Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky 
some of this is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working  than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, 
but worked pretty well the last time I tried it,  which is a
hwile ago now.  But I'm still on their list and  I suppose there's 
no mor

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

2016-01-28 Thread Cheryl Lenartiene
Hi Carol,

Thank you so much for your suggestions! I have locked my phone in portrait 
orientation, and that has improved performance. However, my hands are small, 
and I have found that unless I keep my hands exactly centered on the phone, I 
don't hit all of the dots with all of my fingers. In other words, I could be 
hitting dot 2 with both my index and middle fingers, instead of dots one and 
two, because the rectangles for the dots are quite a bit larger on the 6S plus 
then on the 5C.. For this reason, I do find the native Braille screen input a 
little easier. The fact that I can calibrate the dots is a big help, because it 
accommodates my smaller fingers. I will keep practicing, though, and I will try 
holding my phone in the way you suggest. Hopefully it will help.


Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
HCSB

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2016, at 3:18 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> I'm sending a copy of this to Harri, because I do believe there are buggy 
> situations that need us to look more closely.
> 
> Harri may want to formulate some tasks for each of us to try out to help to 
> squash (improve) this one. You certainly can mess things up quite easily ... 
> so I just try to follow my pattern and for me it's OK, most of the time.
> 
> Read on for what I write in your circumstances, Cheryl:
> 
> I too find it more difficult to type on the 6S must my most comfortable 
> position is to hold the phone with thumbs and little fingers on the edges, 
> near to the corners. In this way you get to write with fingers a little 
> more comfortably, I think. I also use the "away" mode exclusively as nothing 
> else really works for me, though I play with others and can manage tabletop 
> if I'm lying back in a chair.  I find piano just too close and, if you use 
> edges of the sreen, to try to keep your fingers in order, this doesn't work 
> well for me without any dots to guide and I don't have any on my 6S. Again, 
> if one could indicate where you want to place the fingers, it may work a 
> little better.
> 
> I also changed one of the new settings, which is for away" mode to ensure the 
> home button stays on the right. In all other circumstances I work in locked 
> portrait mode and don't alter it when using mBraille. I don't have a split 
> screen.
> 
> I have been trying to carry out a few tests and, though I can't work out a 
> pattern right now as I'm not well and struggling to write anything, I am 
> nevertheless convinced that it does depend on which you load first and/or 
> what you're writing into with mBraille as to the results you get.
> 
> Perhaps Harri may want to take a closer look at this.
> 
> For me, I'm happy enough, knowing I don't have a split screen (usually 
> anyway) and, when things don't work right, I just take both apps out of the 
> switcher and that's usually sufficient.
> 
> I hope this helps a bit.
> 
> Please return my receipt or come back to me to let me know you have both seen 
> this as my desktop doesn't allow me to indicate (as with the phone) that I 
> wish to see responses to certain threads.
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
>> On 26/01/2016 21:44, Cheryl Lenartiene wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers 
>> right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no 
>> matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient 
>> with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille 
>> keyboard for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the 
>> keyboard stands in my way.
>>  Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I 
>> write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille 
>> in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS 
>> Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably 
>> why I've had a lot more success using it.
>> Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For 
>> example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text 
>> field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and 
>> rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille 
>> keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to the split screen view with 
>> contacts on the left and conversations on the right.
>> If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I 
>> welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party k

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

2016-01-27 Thread Cheryl Lenartiene
Hi all,
I appreciate everyone's suggestions and ongoing detective work. I will try 
locking the orientation to see if that makes a difference.
I seem to remember that one of the advantages of the Plus phones, as well as 
the iPad, was that one could use Piano layout in landscape mode and still have 
access to part of the screen, which would be useful in sending iMessages and 
e-mails. In portrait orientation, the Piano layout takes up the full screen. I 
was hoping to be able to take advantage of this feature in landscape at some 
point, but for me, at least, there is a learning curve with the Piano layout, 
and I have precious little time these days. I try to keep up with demands and 
use whatever gets the job done in the most efficient manner at the moment.
I'll try to post in the next day or so with an update. Hopefully, others will 
find it helpful.


Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
HCSB

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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:32 AM, Gordan Radić <razbij...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I use MBraille since it was released and I'm also in the beta testing team.
> I tested the built-in keyboard some months ago when it was introduced and I 
> wasn't happy about it. It worked, than it didn't , than it again did and so 
> on. Finally, I removed the keyboard from Settings and continued to use it as 
> before.
> Yesterday I was reading here that keyboard has improoved and I re-enabled it 
> but aftera try or two I wasn't satisfied. First thing to happen was the new 
> message alert while I was typing the message. It completely blocked the 
> keyboard. After that I played a bit more and noticed the almost same issues 
> as it had before. If I dismiss it i got the conversation without an edit 
> field or if I switch keyboard to Apples virtual there's no input text.
> Regarding your problem, since I also use 6S Plus I can only recommend to lock 
> it in Portrait and to use fixed Away mode in MBraille, this way you won't 
> experience the split screens.
> Regarding everything else, I went back to MBraille as an app, I use copy 
> paste with Home button and dot commands to achieve texts and e-mails which is 
> more or less enough for my needs. If I need a quick reply to text or 
> something from the lock screen I use VO Braille Input and somehow I'm 
> succeeding in writing something on iPhone xD.
> P.S. You can't use MBraille KB from the lock screen, I tried it yesterday and 
> the MBraille is not in the Next Keyboard list while there.
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić
> 
>  
>  
> 26.1.2016. u 22:44, Cheryl Lenartiene je napisao/la:
>> Hi,
>> I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers 
>> right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no 
>> matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient 
>> with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille 
>> keyboard for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the 
>> keyboard stands in my way.
>>  Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I 
>> write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille 
>> in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS 
>> Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably 
>> why I've had a lot more success using it.
>> Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For 
>> example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text 
>> field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and 
>> rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille 
>> keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to the split screen view with 
>> contacts on the left and conversations on the right.
>> If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I 
>> welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and 
>> not just in its standalone form.
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> Cheryl
>> Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
>> for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
>> 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
>> HCSB
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Brett <brettst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought 
>>> it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well 
>>> and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party 
>>> keyb

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