RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: netatmo problems

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Keith,

When I got my first Netatmo the app was almost unusable and back then (I think 
it was around 2012 or 2013) their head developer was a Spanish guy named Carlos 
who fortunately was very interested in making this accessible. He gave me 
access to Beta versions via Testflight and for a few months I spend a lot of 
time testing and suggesting. It's actually been on my To Do List to see if he 
is still there and to contact him about this issue. Switching pages and swiping 
works just fine, but it would be nice if that information was on the screen 
where you could also explore it more easily by touch.
Also, it would be nice if historic data was accessible, e.g. yesterday's 
minimum and maximum temperatures etc. which currently cannot be accessed with 
Voiceover.

By the way, if you are for example, on your main indoor module, do you get 
minimum and maximum temperatures or does it go from current temperature 
straight to CO2 level?
If you don't get minimum and maximum, then next time you swipe and get to the 
current temperature just do a double tap and that will permanently reveal 
minimum and maximum for that day.
This applies to any of the modules.

Lastly, apparently the newer Netatmo Stations are home Kit compatible, not sure 
if you have to do anything, but you should be able to ask SIRI for information 
and have it displayed in the Home app.
If you own an Alexa device then there is also a Netatmo skill and it works 
reasonably well.
If I want to know the outdoor temperature I ask Alexa the following:

Alexa, ask Netatmo what the temperature is outside.
Or I can ask:
Alexa, ask Netatmo what the temperature is in the bedroom (or kitchen or 
downstairs)
I named my modules Kitchen (for the indoor module of the main station), my 
other modules are Bedroom and Downstairs and I actually bought a third indoor 
module a while back, but haven't set it up yet and my outdoor module is called 
"Deck".
However, if I ask for temperature for the deck Alexa say s it can't find it and 
tells me I have modules called Kitchen, Bedroom and Downstairs, then it asks do 
I want information for the first, second and third and I can say "second" and 
it will give me the Bedroom, but for all indoor modules when Alexa answers it 
will say "The temperature inside is, for example, 21 degrees, it will not 
answer "The temperature in the bedroom is 21 degrees" or "the temperature 
downstairs is 19 degrees".
My main station is too old to support Home Kit, maybe some day I'll buy a new 
one and try to sell this one, but for sure I would wait for one of their 20% 
off events and then maybe I'll use some of my Aeroplan points which also allow 
me to buy Amazon gift cards since I think you can buy Netatmo through Amazon as 
well.
I think Netatmo is still one of the best weather stations out there and while 
some thermostats offer sensors you can put in different rooms, I haven't really 
come across another actual weather station which gives you such a comprehensive 
set of information especially if you do end up getting the full package 
including rain gauge and wind gauge which I have. I still have to mount the 
wind gauge properly on my roof, I asked a guy who does metal work and welding 
to make me a 1 m tall pole with a V-shaped base which I can mount on the 
ridgeline of my roof and which has a small plate to which I can attach the 
little mount that comes with the wind gauge, but he didn't get it done before 
the winter hit and while it hadn't snowed much, we did get a dump of about 8 
inches yesterday so it's probably better to wait until April when the snow will 
be gone and I can mount this properly and permanently. The same goes for my 
rain gauge, I usually just have it on the table on my deck, but ideally it 
should also be on a pole about 4 feet off the ground. Anyways, I always take it 
inside in the winter since we rarely get liquid rain here between mid November 
and the end of March and even if it does rain here and there, it often freezes 
then at night and constructing some sort of heated surrounding so the snow 
melts and the rain gauge can operate is entirely too much trouble. 

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: netatmo problems

thanks very much, Sigg hard. I never would’ve figured this out without your 
guidance.
I did search their help topics for voiceover and accessibility, but 
unfortunately found no hits. It would be nice if this kind of information were 
included there in.
Best, Keith

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Keith,
> 
> That is unfortunately how the app works, it could be better but it's workable 
> as it is.
> The trick is that once you flick up for example to change from page 1 to 2 
> and say from your main indoor module to th

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: netatmo problems

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

thanks very much, Sigg hard. I never would’ve figured this out without your 
guidance.
I did search their help topics for voiceover and accessibility, but 
unfortunately found no hits. It would be nice if this kind of information were 
included there in.
Best, Keith

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Keith,
> 
> That is unfortunately how the app works, it could be better but it's workable 
> as it is.
> The trick is that once you flick up for example to change from page 1 to 2 
> and say from your main indoor module to the second indoor module, just start 
> flicking right without touching anything else.
> Then the information of that module is read and the same applies if you have 
> extra outdoor modules like a rain or wind gauge.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 11:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: netatmo problems
> 
> hi, I have purchased a new Netatmo WeatherStation. I believe I have set it up 
> correctly. But when I go into the app, I cannot access reliably anything 
> other than the main weather station indoor module. There are options to 
> switch pages among one of four and 1 of 5, and when I do that, it quickly 
> reverts to the original page.
> Is this app still usable with voiceover?
> 
> Also, I have the Netatmo Comfort app for my phone. on that, I can access only 
> my two additional indoor modules, but neither the WeatherStation indoor 
> module nor the outdoor module. Does this app still work, too?
> Any help appreciated. Best, Keith
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RE: netatmo problems

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Keith,

That is unfortunately how the app works, it could be better but it's workable 
as it is.
The trick is that once you flick up for example to change from page 1 to 2 and 
say from your main indoor module to the second indoor module, just start 
flicking right without touching anything else.
Then the information of that module is read and the same applies if you have 
extra outdoor modules like a rain or wind gauge.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 11:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: netatmo problems

hi, I have purchased a new Netatmo WeatherStation. I believe I have set it up 
correctly. But when I go into the app, I cannot access reliably anything other 
than the main weather station indoor module. There are options to switch pages 
among one of four and 1 of 5, and when I do that, it quickly reverts to the 
original page.
Is this app still usable with voiceover?

Also, I have the Netatmo Comfort app for my phone. on that, I can access only 
my two additional indoor modules, but neither the WeatherStation indoor module 
nor the outdoor module. Does this app still work, too?
Any help appreciated. Best, Keith

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RE: Netatmo rain gage.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have both the rain and wind gauge.
The rain gauge is accessible, it gives you total rainfall, how much is coming 
down per hour but just as with other measurements once the day is over you 
can’t access the data from previous days.
Keep in mind that it needs to be properly installed on a fence, railing or a 
free-standing pole and that it needs to be perfectly level for it to be 
accurate.
Mine is currently inside as it is each winter from around the beginning or the 
middle of November until the end of March or early April. It usually snows 
during these month where I live and while it rains here and there if it happens 
to warm up above 0, it usually goes below freezing at night and I don’t think 
it’s that good for the rain gauge to freeze and thaw or to simply be out when 
it’s minus 20 or 30 below as it was for a good amount of the last 3 weeks or so.

I still haven’t properly installed the wind gauge, it needs to be on a pole 
preferably at least 3 feet above the highest part of my roof. In my case I’ll 
probably put it on a 4 foot pole because we have years like last winter when we 
had almost 3 feet of snow on the roof.
One thing I noticed is that while the wind gauge gives you wind speed, average 
wind speed and maximum gusts, Voiceover does not announce wind direction. I 
have to get a sighted person to look, but I assume that information is 
displayed since when you install the wind gauge you have to do so using a 
compass so you can point the arrow on the wind gauge to the North.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Adam 
Morris
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 5:53 PM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Netatmo rain gage.


Hi all,

has anyone purchased the rain gauge?

Wondering how accessible that part of the app is with voice over?

Also can the measurements be changed to mm instead of inches?

TIA.



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RE: Netatmo Black Friday deal

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Pablo, Don and Jim,

Sorry, usually I do explain more about products I post, but I had a pretty busy 
day today as I am in retail and all the stores in my little town are open until 
11 PM tonight to kick of the Christmas shopping season. I've been here since 9 
this morning so even now I'll be brief and would ask for you guys to simply 
plug "Netatmo" or "Netatmo Weather Station" into Google, with a name like 
"Netatmo" you are not going to get ambiguous results. Even if you search the 
archives for "Netatmo" you'll bring up a bunch of posts with prior discussions. 
In short, it is as the name describes a weather station. It consists of two 
modules, one indoor main module which you connect to your WiFi and a secondary 
outdoor module which is pre-paired out of the box with the indoor module. Both 
modules measure temperature including the 24-hour minimum and maximum and 
humidity. The indoor module will also give you a CO2 measurement, noise level 
and barometric pressure.
You can buy additional indoor modules to put in other rooms or, for example, 
you could have one upstairs, one downstairs and one in the garage, I think you 
can add up to 3 additional indoor modules. There is also a rain gauge and a 
wind gauge. Here a brief listing of features from Amazon:

· Made for iPhone and Android Weather Station: access to its sensors 
from anywhere, at any time
· Temperature, Humidity, Barometric Pressure, indoor CO2 concentration 
and Sound Meter
· Real time Notifications and Graphs for data history (record 
frequency: every 5 min.)
· Connect multiple Stations to your smartphone and multiple smartphone 
to a Station
· Lifetime free personal account for your data

On Amazon.ca there doesn't seem to be a deal so you may have to go to Netatmo's 
site to get it, not sure about the US. The website of course is 
www.netatmo.com.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Netatmo Black Friday deal

[Jim Noseworthy]

Sieghard:

 

Do you have a link for that animal: I mean, is this a box store thing or the 
company site itself?

 

Thanks all over the place.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don Risavy, Jr.
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 4:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Netatmo Black Friday deal

 

Can you explain more on this device and what all can or does do?

Thanks.

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 1:54 PM
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Subject: Netatmo Black Friday deal

 

Hi,

 

Just quickly wanted to mention that if anybody is interested in the Netatmo 
Weather Station or if people who have one want to add a moddule that there is 
now a 25% discount on all Netatmo products until Monday. All you have to do is 
enter the discount code BF2016 during checkout.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Netatmo Black Friday deal

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Can you explain more on this device and what all can or does do?

Thanks.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Netatmo Black Friday deal

 

Hi,

 

Just quickly wanted to mention that if anybody is interested in the Netatmo 
Weather Station or if people who have one want to add a moddule that there is 
now a 25% discount on all Netatmo products until Monday. All you have to do is 
enter the discount code BF2016 during checkout.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Netatmo Black Friday deal

[Pablo C. Morales]

What is it?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 2:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Netatmo Black Friday deal

 

Hi,

 

Just quickly wanted to mention that if anybody is interested in the Netatmo 
Weather Station or if people who have one want to add a moddule that there is 
now a 25% discount on all Netatmo products until Monday. All you have to do is 
enter the discount code BF2016 during checkout.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Netatmo users: hold off updating to the latest version

[bpabbott9]

Hello Sieghard. I was mistaken about the buttons not  being labeled.

I tried the program again tonight and had to reinstate the internal station 
module as we have a new router. I also tried once again to connect the outdoor 
module. It  is definitely not working so I will have to contact  Netatmo 
directly about how to replace the outdoorbmodule. Sent from Bäry Abbott's  
iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2015, at 1:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Barry,
>  
> I actually can’t think of any unlabeled buttons in the last version, could 
> you give some examples I could pass along?
>  
> No, not sure about the warranty. As a retailer myself who sells a lot of 
> higher end product which comes with various warranties, I must of course say 
> that if it didn’t survive the winter why you didn’t try to deal with this as 
> soon as you noticed it wasn’t working. I do also think that is says in the 
> instructions the outdoor module should of course be outside but that it 
> should be kept out of direct sunlight (that can skew the temperature reading) 
> and out of the rain and, by extension I would think it should also be kept 
> out of the snow.
> I just brought my rain gauge inside today since while it may still rain a bit 
> in the next couple of weeks and occasionally throughout other winter months, 
> for the most part it will snow from now until the end of March and it will 
> often be below freezing and I just can’t see how it would be good for the 
> rain gauge if it had mosture inside which would then freeze, thaw, freeze 
> again and so on.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Barry Abbott
> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 8:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Netatmo users: hold off updating to the latest version
>  
> I noticed  in the last update of Netatmo that some of the buttons were not 
> labelled.
>  
> Incidentally, do you know what the warranty is? My outdoor module did not 
> withstand the riggers of last winter as it became buried in snow. Despite 
> many attempts after  battery replacement I have not been able to get it 
> working. I made sure that the batteries were inserted correctly and I tested 
> them with a battery tester. .
>  
> When I go to Amazon I see additional indoor modules but no outdoor module. I 
> am going to have to email Netatmo with my serial number to determine if it is 
> still under warranty. It was a Christmas present. 
>  
> Barry. 
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>  
> Hello,
>  
> This morning I had an update to the Netatmo app in my list of updates.
> For those who own a Netatmo Weather Station I recommend you hold off updating 
> the app for now. When I read the description “The app has been given a new 
> look” I was a bit worried and in fact there seems to be a bit of a step back 
> since currently Voiceover won’t read minimum and maximum temperatures any 
> more. It does read everything else and it’s laid out a bit differently, but 
> since I was quite involved with the Netatmo head developer in initially 
> making the app accessible, I want to contact him and bring up some of these 
> issues. Hopefully their commitment to accessibility is still there and they 
> will fix these items since I assume it’s not that big of a deal.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Netatmo users: hold off updating to the latest version

[Barry Abbott]

I noticed  in the last update of Netatmo that some of the buttons were not 
labelled.

Incidentally, do you know what the warranty is? My outdoor module did not 
withstand the riggers of last winter as it became buried in snow. Despite many 
attempts after  battery replacement I have not been able to get it working. I 
made sure that the batteries were inserted correctly and I tested them with a 
battery tester. .

When I go to Amazon I see additional indoor modules but no outdoor module. I am 
going to have to email Netatmo with my serial number to determine if it is 
still under warranty. It was a Christmas present. 

Barry. 
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
>  
> This morning I had an update to the Netatmo app in my list of updates.
> For those who own a Netatmo Weather Station I recommend you hold off updating 
> the app for now. When I read the description “The app has been given a new 
> look” I was a bit worried and in fact there seems to be a bit of a step back 
> since currently Voiceover won’t read minimum and maximum temperatures any 
> more. It does read everything else and it’s laid out a bit differently, but 
> since I was quite involved with the Netatmo head developer in initially 
> making the app accessible, I want to contact him and bring up some of these 
> issues. Hopefully their commitment to accessibility is still there and they 
> will fix these items since I assume it’s not that big of a deal.
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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RE: Netatmo users: hold off updating to the latest version

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Barry,

 

I actually can’t think of any unlabeled buttons in the last version, could you 
give some examples I could pass along?

 

No, not sure about the warranty. As a retailer myself who sells a lot of higher 
end product which comes with various warranties, I must of course say that if 
it didn’t survive the winter why you didn’t try to deal with this as soon as 
you noticed it wasn’t working. I do also think that is says in the instructions 
the outdoor module should of course be outside but that it should be kept out 
of direct sunlight (that can skew the temperature reading) and out of the rain 
and, by extension I would think it should also be kept out of the snow.

I just brought my rain gauge inside today since while it may still rain a bit 
in the next couple of weeks and occasionally throughout other winter months, 
for the most part it will snow from now until the end of March and it will 
often be below freezing and I just can’t see how it would be good for the rain 
gauge if it had mosture inside which would then freeze, thaw, freeze again and 
so on.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Barry Abbott
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 8:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo users: hold off updating to the latest version

 

I noticed  in the last update of Netatmo that some of the buttons were not 
labelled.

 

Incidentally, do you know what the warranty is? My outdoor module did not 
withstand the riggers of last winter as it became buried in snow. Despite many 
attempts after  battery replacement I have not been able to get it working. I 
made sure that the batteries were inserted correctly and I tested them with a 
battery tester. .

 

When I go to Amazon I see additional indoor modules but no outdoor module. I am 
going to have to email Netatmo with my serial number to determine if it is 
still under warranty. It was a Christmas present. 

 

Barry. 

On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

This morning I had an update to the Netatmo app in my list of updates.

For those who own a Netatmo Weather Station I recommend you hold off updating 
the app for now. When I read the description “The app has been given a new 
look” I was a bit worried and in fact there seems to be a bit of a step back 
since currently Voiceover won’t read minimum and maximum temperatures any more. 
It does read everything else and it’s laid out a bit differently, but since I 
was quite involved with the Netatmo head developer in initially making the app 
accessible, I want to contact him and bring up some of these issues. Hopefully 
their commitment to accessibility is still there and they will fix these items 
since I assume it’s not that big of a deal.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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RE: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jan,

 

There is some sort of forecast, but that part of the app is not accessible.
There are also some graphs and such when you turn the phone to landscape.
The basic readings are what is accessible, i.e. outdoor temperature, minimum
and maximum temperature from Midnight to Midnight, felt temperature,
humidity and pressure. Also the indoor modules measures indoor temp, minimum
and maximum, humidity as well as CO2 levels and it gives you a air quality
indicator for the room the station is in.

 

Currently this information is not logged so you would have to record the
readings as you are doing now. I was going to check with the developer to
see whether having a history of the readings is something they might
implement down the road.

 

I do know that a wind sensor is coming at some point, not sure about UV, but
I could see them adding that as well.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jan Kleinhans
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

 

Hi

 

Thank you very much for this.  What a very interesting setup?  It might not
be cheep, but sounds worth every bit of money. Does all of the weather
station data get logged somewhere, so one can check it after a time?  To me
this sounds amazing, and the kind of thing I enjoy using.  At one point I
read something on forecasting, does it have some weather forecasting
abilities, or does this happen in conjunction with official weather
services?  Thanks for answering all of this, making me more determined to
somehow get a station of my own.

 

Regards

 

Jan

 

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From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:01 PM

Subject: RE: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

 

Hi Jan,

 

That is no problem for the Netatmo Weather Station/rain gauge. The rain
gauge uses the so-called tipping bucket design and can measure from 2mm to
900mm rainfall per hour. Note, that's per hour not per day. 120 mm in a
day is a lot of rain, but the Netatmo rain gauge can handle it no problem.
Below is a link to a review which explains the tipping bucket design, the
rain gauge also shows how much rain was measured per hour over a 24 hour
period.

 

http://www.tuaw.com/2014/04/24/netatmo-expands-ios-friendly-weather-station-
with-rain-gauge/

 

The total investment is definitely not cheap. The main station with the main
indoor and 1 outdoor module costs $179 US and the rain gauge is $79 US. You
can also add up to 2 additional indoor modules which also cost $79 each. In
other words, the weather station with the rain gauge would be $258 and if
you added 1 additional indoor module it would be $337.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jan Kleinhans
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

 

Hi

 

very interesting, this weather station.  I was wondering about the rain
guage, would be interesting to know what happens when it gets full, before
the 24 hour period is up, when it empties itself.  We had 120 mm (5 inches)
the other day within 24 hours, and of course I was not at home to empty my
normal guage.  Will the guage empty itself when it gets full, or would you
miss the extra inch that could not be measured then?  Just curious about
this, and would like to hear all your findings on this.  I don't own a
station myself here, a bit difficult to get this here in South Africa, but I
am somehow wanting to get one, as weather always interested me.  I keep a
very basic spred sheet with temperatures wind and rainfall for each month,
and a station measuring all of this by itself would be a great tool to have.

 

Regards

 

Jan Kleinhans

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From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:12 AM

Subject: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

 

Hello Netatmo users,

 

For those who haven't noticed yet, Netatmo's update is now available in the
app store and as promised Voiceover once again reads outdoor minimum and
maximum temperature.

 

I am now looking forward to getting the rain gauge which shipped a few days
ago and hopefully will arrive next week. I'll post a review once I have it
connected to my Netatmo weather station and once it rains so I can test it! 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thank you very much for that.  Well, the important things are being done, and 
that's what it is all about.  No problem to keep on recording my data.  The 
wind sensor will certainly be a plus, as long as we can read all the 
information on this.  Would be interesting to hear your findings once you have 
your rain gauge.  Was wondering about the accuracy thing, was it 1 mm per hour? 
So, would that mean that, should it rain for 5 hours, you could in theory have 
5 mm to much or to little then?

Thanks all the same for a interesting topic.

Jan

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Re: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

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Hi

very interesting, this weather station.  I was wondering about the rain guage, 
would be interesting to know what happens when it gets full, before the 24 hour 
period is up, when it empties itself.  We had 120 mm (5 inches) the other day 
within 24 hours, and of course I was not at home to empty my normal guage.  
Will the guage empty itself when it gets full, or would you miss the extra inch 
that could not be measured then?  Just curious about this, and would like to 
hear all your findings on this.  I don't own a station myself here, a bit 
difficult to get this here in South Africa, but I am somehow wanting to get 
one, as weather always interested me.  I keep a very basic spred sheet with 
temperatures wind and rainfall for each month, and a station measuring all of 
this by itself would be a great tool to have.

Regards

Jan Kleinhans
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:12 AM
  Subject: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue


  Hello Netatmo users,

   

  For those who haven't noticed yet, Netatmo's update is now available in the 
app store and as promised Voiceover once again reads outdoor minimum and 
maximum temperature.

   

  I am now looking forward to getting the rain gauge which shipped a few days 
ago and hopefully will arrive next week. I'll post a review once I have it 
connected to my Netatmo weather station and once it rains so I can test it! 

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   


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RE: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jan,

 

That is no problem for the Netatmo Weather Station/rain gauge. The rain
gauge uses the so-called tipping bucket design and can measure from 2mm to
900mm rainfall per hour. Note, that's per hour not per day. 120 mm in a
day is a lot of rain, but the Netatmo rain gauge can handle it no problem.
Below is a link to a review which explains the tipping bucket design, the
rain gauge also shows how much rain was measured per hour over a 24 hour
period.

 

http://www.tuaw.com/2014/04/24/netatmo-expands-ios-friendly-weather-station-
with-rain-gauge/

 

The total investment is definitely not cheap. The main station with the main
indoor and 1 outdoor module costs $179 US and the rain gauge is $79 US. You
can also add up to 2 additional indoor modules which also cost $79 each. In
other words, the weather station with the rain gauge would be $258 and if
you added 1 additional indoor module it would be $337.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jan Kleinhans
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

 

Hi

 

very interesting, this weather station.  I was wondering about the rain
guage, would be interesting to know what happens when it gets full, before
the 24 hour period is up, when it empties itself.  We had 120 mm (5 inches)
the other day within 24 hours, and of course I was not at home to empty my
normal guage.  Will the guage empty itself when it gets full, or would you
miss the extra inch that could not be measured then?  Just curious about
this, and would like to hear all your findings on this.  I don't own a
station myself here, a bit difficult to get this here in South Africa, but I
am somehow wanting to get one, as weather always interested me.  I keep a
very basic spred sheet with temperatures wind and rainfall for each month,
and a station measuring all of this by itself would be a great tool to have.

 

Regards

 

Jan Kleinhans

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  

Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:12 AM

Subject: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

 

Hello Netatmo users,

 

For those who haven't noticed yet, Netatmo's update is now available in the
app store and as promised Voiceover once again reads outdoor minimum and
maximum temperature.

 

I am now looking forward to getting the rain gauge which shipped a few days
ago and hopefully will arrive next week. I'll post a review once I have it
connected to my Netatmo weather station and once it rains so I can test it! 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thank you very much for this.  What a very interesting setup?  It might not be 
cheep, but sounds worth every bit of money. Does all of the weather station 
data get logged somewhere, so one can check it after a time?  To me this sounds 
amazing, and the kind of thing I enjoy using.  At one point I read something on 
forecasting, does it have some weather forecasting abilities, or does this 
happen in conjunction with official weather services?  Thanks for answering all 
of this, making me more determined to somehow get a station of my own.

Regards

Jan

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:01 PM
  Subject: RE: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue


  Hi Jan,

   

  That is no problem for the Netatmo Weather Station/rain gauge. The rain gauge 
uses the so-called tipping bucket design and can measure from 2mm to 900mm 
rainfall per hour. Note, that's per hour not per day. 120 mm in a day is a 
lot of rain, but the Netatmo rain gauge can handle it no problem. Below is a 
link to a review which explains the tipping bucket design, the rain gauge also 
shows how much rain was measured per hour over a 24 hour period.

   

  
http://www.tuaw.com/2014/04/24/netatmo-expands-ios-friendly-weather-station-with-rain-gauge/

   

  The total investment is definitely not cheap. The main station with the main 
indoor and 1 outdoor module costs $179 US and the rain gauge is $79 US. You can 
also add up to 2 additional indoor modules which also cost $79 each. In other 
words, the weather station with the rain gauge would be $258 and if you added 1 
additional indoor module it would be $337.

   

   

  Best regards,

  Sieghard

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jan Kleinhans
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:19 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

   

  Hi

   

  very interesting, this weather station.  I was wondering about the rain 
guage, would be interesting to know what happens when it gets full, before the 
24 hour period is up, when it empties itself.  We had 120 mm (5 inches) the 
other day within 24 hours, and of course I was not at home to empty my normal 
guage.  Will the guage empty itself when it gets full, or would you miss the 
extra inch that could not be measured then?  Just curious about this, and would 
like to hear all your findings on this.  I don't own a station myself here, a 
bit difficult to get this here in South Africa, but I am somehow wanting to get 
one, as weather always interested me.  I keep a very basic spred sheet with 
temperatures wind and rainfall for each month, and a station measuring all of 
this by itself would be a great tool to have.

   

  Regards

   

  Jan Kleinhans

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:12 AM

Subject: Netatmo update fixes outdoor minimum/maximum temperature issue

 

Hello Netatmo users,

 

For those who haven't noticed yet, Netatmo's update is now available in the 
app store and as promised Voiceover once again reads outdoor minimum and 
maximum temperature.

 

I am now looking forward to getting the rain gauge which shipped a few days 
ago and hopefully will arrive next week. I'll post a review once I have it 
connected to my Netatmo weather station and once it rains so I can test it! 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Netatmo update fixes minimum/maximum outdoor temperature issue and supports rain gauge

[Marianne Denning]

I am considering getting netatmo.  Is all of it accessible with
voiceover?  What do you find most helpful to you?  I was checking out
their website and really getting excited about it.  Can you run your
thermostat with your IPhone?

On 4/18/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hello Netatmo users,



 I received a message from Netatmo regarding Voiceover not reading outdoor
 minimum and maximum temperatures any more since the last update. The issue
 has been fixed and the update was submitted to Apple, it should be
 available
 next week.



 I was also told that the new rain gauge measurement will be correctly read
 by Voiceover, here is the reply I received:



 Hi Sieghard



 There is indeed an issue regarding min and max temperature values for
 Voiceover on version 1.4.0. It has been fixed and will be available again
 on
 1.4.1 release available next week. Thanks for reporting this issue we were
 unaware of.



 As for the rain gauge support for Voiceover, the values are correctly read
 on version 1.4.0 but the labels are wrong (reading temperature instead of
 last hour rain, etc.) The labels will be appropriate on version 1.4.1



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RE: Netatmo update fixes minimum/maximum outdoor temperature issue and supports rain gauge

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Marianne,

The Netatmo Weather Station is the product I have been posting about and it
is not a thermostat at all. I believe Netatmo also does make a WiFi enabled
thermostat, but it is only available in Europe, actually, I think it's
available in France where Netatmo is located and maybe in Germany and some
other countries, but not in all European countries. To my knowledge Netatmo
is not planning to introduce the thermostat to the North American market
where a number of WiFi thermostats already exist.

If you are looking for an accessible thermostat to control your heating/air
conditioning via an iOS app you should check out www.RadioThermostat.com. I
own 3 of their WiFi thermostats, they work great and I have had them for I
think at least 2 or 3 years now and they work flawlessly. The app is
accessible and you can buy the thermostat for $139 on the website, but I
have seen posts from others who own it and who say that in the States you
can often get it for $99 at Home Depot and of course it's also available on
Amazon.

The Netatmo weather station consists of an indoor and outdoor module which
measure temperature, humidity, air pressure and they also keep track of
indoor and outdoor minimum and maximum temperatures for the day (from
Midnight to Midnight) and the indoor module also measures CO2 level and
noise. You can add up to 3 additional indoor modules for $79 each to put in
other rooms in your house or the basement if you wish and the newest item
which is just now starting to ship is a rain sensor which keeps track of
aily rainfall. It is also $79 and the main weather station is $179, that's
your primary indoor module which has the WiFi connectivity built-in and the
one outdoor module.

A wind sensor is coming and while this is not a cheap device, it does work
well and Netatmo has done an excellent job to make the readings accessible.
As far as I know it is also the only weather station for iOS and you can
also access the information by logging into your account on the Netatmo
website. However, it's much easier and more accessible via the app.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo update fixes minimum/maximum outdoor temperature issue
and supports rain gauge

I am considering getting netatmo.  Is all of it accessible with voiceover?
What do you find most helpful to you?  I was checking out their website and
really getting excited about it.  Can you run your thermostat with your
IPhone?

On 4/18/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hello Netatmo users,



 I received a message from Netatmo regarding Voiceover not reading 
 outdoor minimum and maximum temperatures any more since the last 
 update. The issue has been fixed and the update was submitted to 
 Apple, it should be available next week.



 I was also told that the new rain gauge measurement will be correctly 
 read by Voiceover, here is the reply I received:



 Hi Sieghard



 There is indeed an issue regarding min and max temperature values for 
 Voiceover on version 1.4.0. It has been fixed and will be available 
 again on
 1.4.1 release available next week. Thanks for reporting this issue we 
 were unaware of.



 As for the rain gauge support for Voiceover, the values are correctly 
 read on version 1.4.0 but the labels are wrong (reading temperature 
 instead of last hour rain, etc.) The labels will be appropriate on 
 version 1.4.1



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Re: Netatmo update fixes minimum/maximum outdoor temperature issue and supports rain gauge

[Marianne Denning]

Thank you.  I did see the thermostat link on their website but I
really am most interested in the rain guage.  Other features will be
great too.  I plan to ask my sons to purchase it for Mother's Day and
my birthday.  I appreciate all of the information.

On 4/18/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Marianne,

 The Netatmo Weather Station is the product I have been posting about and it
 is not a thermostat at all. I believe Netatmo also does make a WiFi enabled
 thermostat, but it is only available in Europe, actually, I think it's
 available in France where Netatmo is located and maybe in Germany and some
 other countries, but not in all European countries. To my knowledge Netatmo
 is not planning to introduce the thermostat to the North American market
 where a number of WiFi thermostats already exist.

 If you are looking for an accessible thermostat to control your heating/air
 conditioning via an iOS app you should check out www.RadioThermostat.com. I
 own 3 of their WiFi thermostats, they work great and I have had them for I
 think at least 2 or 3 years now and they work flawlessly. The app is
 accessible and you can buy the thermostat for $139 on the website, but I
 have seen posts from others who own it and who say that in the States you
 can often get it for $99 at Home Depot and of course it's also available on
 Amazon.

 The Netatmo weather station consists of an indoor and outdoor module which
 measure temperature, humidity, air pressure and they also keep track of
 indoor and outdoor minimum and maximum temperatures for the day (from
 Midnight to Midnight) and the indoor module also measures CO2 level and
 noise. You can add up to 3 additional indoor modules for $79 each to put in
 other rooms in your house or the basement if you wish and the newest item
 which is just now starting to ship is a rain sensor which keeps track of
 aily rainfall. It is also $79 and the main weather station is $179, that's
 your primary indoor module which has the WiFi connectivity built-in and the
 one outdoor module.

 A wind sensor is coming and while this is not a cheap device, it does work
 well and Netatmo has done an excellent job to make the readings accessible.
 As far as I know it is also the only weather station for iOS and you can
 also access the information by logging into your account on the Netatmo
 website. However, it's much easier and more accessible via the app.


 Best regards,
 Sieghard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 7:59 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Netatmo update fixes minimum/maximum outdoor temperature issue
 and supports rain gauge

 I am considering getting netatmo.  Is all of it accessible with voiceover?
 What do you find most helpful to you?  I was checking out their website and
 really getting excited about it.  Can you run your thermostat with your
 IPhone?

 On 4/18/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hello Netatmo users,



 I received a message from Netatmo regarding Voiceover not reading
 outdoor minimum and maximum temperatures any more since the last
 update. The issue has been fixed and the update was submitted to
 Apple, it should be available next week.



 I was also told that the new rain gauge measurement will be correctly
 read by Voiceover, here is the reply I received:



 Hi Sieghard



 There is indeed an issue regarding min and max temperature values for
 Voiceover on version 1.4.0. It has been fixed and will be available
 again on
 1.4.1 release available next week. Thanks for reporting this issue we
 were unaware of.



 As for the rain gauge support for Voiceover, the values are correctly
 read on version 1.4.0 but the labels are wrong (reading temperature
 instead of last hour rain, etc.) The labels will be appropriate on
 version 1.4.1



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RE: Netatmo update fixes minimum/maximum outdoor temperature issue and supports rain gauge

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No problem, just keep in mind that the rain gauge by itself won't do
anything, you do have to have the main weather station first, if you get
that and the rain gauge it would be a $258 investment and I think shipping
in the States is $8, so a total of $266. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo update fixes minimum/maximum outdoor temperature issue
and supports rain gauge

Thank you.  I did see the thermostat link on their website but I
really am most interested in the rain guage.  Other features will be
great too.  I plan to ask my sons to purchase it for Mother's Day and
my birthday.  I appreciate all of the information.

On 4/18/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Marianne,

 The Netatmo Weather Station is the product I have been posting about and
it
 is not a thermostat at all. I believe Netatmo also does make a WiFi
enabled
 thermostat, but it is only available in Europe, actually, I think it's
 available in France where Netatmo is located and maybe in Germany and some
 other countries, but not in all European countries. To my knowledge
Netatmo
 is not planning to introduce the thermostat to the North American market
 where a number of WiFi thermostats already exist.

 If you are looking for an accessible thermostat to control your
heating/air
 conditioning via an iOS app you should check out www.RadioThermostat.com.
I
 own 3 of their WiFi thermostats, they work great and I have had them for I
 think at least 2 or 3 years now and they work flawlessly. The app is
 accessible and you can buy the thermostat for $139 on the website, but I
 have seen posts from others who own it and who say that in the States you
 can often get it for $99 at Home Depot and of course it's also available
on
 Amazon.

 The Netatmo weather station consists of an indoor and outdoor module which
 measure temperature, humidity, air pressure and they also keep track of
 indoor and outdoor minimum and maximum temperatures for the day (from
 Midnight to Midnight) and the indoor module also measures CO2 level and
 noise. You can add up to 3 additional indoor modules for $79 each to put
in
 other rooms in your house or the basement if you wish and the newest item
 which is just now starting to ship is a rain sensor which keeps track of
 aily rainfall. It is also $79 and the main weather station is $179, that's
 your primary indoor module which has the WiFi connectivity built-in and
the
 one outdoor module.

 A wind sensor is coming and while this is not a cheap device, it does work
 well and Netatmo has done an excellent job to make the readings
accessible.
 As far as I know it is also the only weather station for iOS and you can
 also access the information by logging into your account on the Netatmo
 website. However, it's much easier and more accessible via the app.


 Best regards,
 Sieghard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Marianne Denning
 Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 7:59 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Netatmo update fixes minimum/maximum outdoor temperature
issue
 and supports rain gauge

 I am considering getting netatmo.  Is all of it accessible with voiceover?
 What do you find most helpful to you?  I was checking out their website
and
 really getting excited about it.  Can you run your thermostat with your
 IPhone?

 On 4/18/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hello Netatmo users,



 I received a message from Netatmo regarding Voiceover not reading
 outdoor minimum and maximum temperatures any more since the last
 update. The issue has been fixed and the update was submitted to
 Apple, it should be available next week.



 I was also told that the new rain gauge measurement will be correctly
 read by Voiceover, here is the reply I received:



 Hi Sieghard



 There is indeed an issue regarding min and max temperature values for
 Voiceover on version 1.4.0. It has been fixed and will be available
 again on
 1.4.1 release available next week. Thanks for reporting this issue we
 were unaware of.



 As for the rain gauge support for Voiceover, the values are correctly
 read on version 1.4.0 but the labels are wrong (reading temperature
 instead of last hour rain, etc.) The labels will be appropriate on
 version 1.4.1



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RE: Netatmo Rain Sensor has been released

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Bobby,

 

Yes, in fact I just noticed it this morning. I thought maybe somehow my
outdoor module was getting messed up and I was going to remove the batteries
and this way reset it. It's good to know that apparently I am not the only
one experiencing this. I will have to check with Carlos if this is a general
issue or if it only affects Voiceover users. As soon as I have a solution or
at least an answer I will let the list and you directly know.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Bobby Druesedow
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Netatmo Rain Sensor has been released

 

Hello Seighard: 

I have ordered my rain gauge as well. I do have a question though. I have
updated Netatmo on my iPod, but not on my iPhone. On my iPod with the newest
version, it shows no data available for minimum and maximum outdoor
temperature. My iPhone with the older version of the app still shows these
two readings correctly. Have you noticed anything like this after your
update? 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Netatmo Rain Sensor has been released

 

Hello Netatmo Weather Station Users,

 

Just thought I let you know that the Netatmo rain sensor is now available.
You may have seen a recent update to the Netatmo app and if you checked the
What's New you would have seen that the main item was support for the new
rain sensor.

 

This means you can now have the weather station which consists of the main
indoor module and 1 outdoor module, you can add up to 3 more additional
indoor modules and now the rain sensor. The indoor module measures current
indoor temperature, minimum and maximum temperature for the current day
(from 12:00 AM until 11:59 PM), indoor humidity, CO2 level and noise (sound
meter is only on the main indoor module, it is not supported for the
additional indoor modules).

The outdoor module measures current temperature, Feels Like temperature,
minimum and maximum temperature, humidity and pressure. It also gives an air
quality value, but that is accessed from official air quality sensors so
depending where you are it may or may not be accurate.

 

Now that the rain sensor has been added the weather station is another step
to being more complete, as far as I know Netatmo will be releasing an
Anemometer (wind sensor) later this year or next year.

 

The rain sensor, just like the additional indoor modules, is $79, shipping
to Canada was $17 and I think in the States it is $8. If you already own the
weather station and have the app you can order right from there. I
discovered a button one swipe to the right of the Last Updated field,
Voiceover reads it as PluvioMeterStation button. Not sure what if anything
this means, but if you tap it you are taken to a page which starts with
Rain Gauge for the Netatmo Weather Station, there is a Close button at the
top right and information about the rain gauge including a message that says
you can preorder it and that it will be shipped within 15 days.

It also then says that it is in stock, that you can add 1 rain gauge to a
Netatmo Weather Station and it gives the price and an Add to Cart button.

I went through the ordering and check-out process easily, everything is
fully accessible and you can pay via Amazon EasyPay, PayPal or credit card.

 

Now, the warning I should give is that I have not yet spoken to Carlos, the
head developer, as to whether the readings from the rain gauge are
accessible for Voiceover users. I have emailed him and once I get a reply
I'll of course report what he said. I also ordered my rain gauge and provide
more feedback once I have it and connected it to my station. I am quite
certain that given Netatmo's commitment to accessibility that the
information from the rain gauge is or will be accessible, but for those who
want to be careful it might be a good idea to wait.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Netatmo Rain Sensor has been released

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Don,

If you buy the Netatmo main weather station for I think $179 you get the
indoor module and outdoor module. The indoor module has 4 Double A batteries
for backup, but it needs to be plugged in since it is constantly connected
to your WiFi and also maintains a connection with the outdoor module. When
you get the 2 units the outdoor module is already paired with the indoor
module, so once the indoor module is setup and connected to your WiFi and
you put batteries into the outdoor module (it uses 4 Tripl A) it will
automatically connect.

The rain sensor is a new item and completely separate, obviously it has to
be out in the open where the rain can be collected in the tipping bucket
design which automatically empties every 24 hours. The outdoor module needs
to be out of the sun and weather but outside of course to obtain accurate
temperature and humidity readings.

You can also get additional indoor modules which are the same as the outdoor
module as far as the form factor is concerned, but they will only measure
temperature, humidity and CO2 level and they also work on 3 Triple A
batteries. This way you could have your main indoor unit in the say living
room and you could have separate indoor modules in the basement and bedroom,
if you wish to keep track of temperatures and humidity there.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of don bishop
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 10:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo Rain Sensor has been released

This sounds quite interesting.  Is the rain gauge part of the outdoor
modulewhich measuresthe items you mentioned in your post or do you have to
buy an outdoor module plus the rain gauge? 

Thanks,
Don



- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 12, 2014 11:41 am
Subject: Netatmo Rain Sensor has been released



 Hello Netatmo Weather Station Users,
  
 Just thought I let you know that the Netatmo rain sensor is now available.
You may have seen a recent update to the Netatmo app and if you checked the
What's New you would have seen that the main item was support for the new
rain sensor.
  
 This means you can now have the weather station which consists of the main
indoor module and 1 outdoor module, you can add up to 3 more additional
indoor modules and now the rain sensor. The indoor module measures current
indoor temperature, minimum and maximum temperature for the current day
(from 12:00 AM until 11:59 PM), indoor humidity, CO2 level and noise (sound
meter is only on the main indoor module, it is not supported for the
additional indoor modules).
 The outdoor module measures current temperature, Feels Like temperature,
minimum and maximum temperature, humidity and pressure. It also gives an air
quality value, but that is accessed from official air quality sensors so
depending where you are it may or may not be accurate.
  
 Now that the rain sensor has been added the weather station is another
step to being more complete, as far as I know Netatmo will be releasing an
Anemometer (wind sensor) later this year or next year.
  
 The rain sensor, just like the additional indoor modules, is $79, shipping
to Canada was $17 and I think in the States it is $8. If you already own the
weather station and have the app you can order right from there. I
discovered a button one swipe to the right of the Last Updated field,
Voiceover reads it as PluvioMeterStation button. Not sure what if anything
this means, but if you tap it you are taken to a page which starts with
Rain Gauge for the Netatmo Weather Station, there is a Close button at the
top right and information about the rain gauge including a message that says
you can preorder it and that it will be shipped within 15 days.
 It also then says that it is in stock, that you can add 1 rain gauge to a
Netatmo Weather Station and it gives the price and an Add to Cart button.
 I went through the ordering and check-out process easily, everything is
fully accessible and you can pay via Amazon EasyPay, PayPal or credit card.
  
 Now, the warning I should give is that I have not yet spoken to Carlos,
the head developer, as to whether the readings from the rain gauge are
accessible for Voiceover users. I have emailed him and once I get a reply
I'll of course report what he said. I also ordered my rain gauge and provide
more feedback once I have it and connected it to my station. I am quite
certain that given Netatmo's commitment to accessibility that the
information from the rain gauge is or will be accessible, but for those who
want to be careful it might be a good idea to wait.
  
  
 Regards,
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RE: Netatmo Rain Sensor has been released

[Bobby Druesedow]

Hello Seighard: 

I have ordered my rain gauge as well. I do have a question though. I have
updated Netatmo on my iPod, but not on my iPhone. On my iPod with the newest
version, it shows no data available for minimum and maximum outdoor
temperature. My iPhone with the older version of the app still shows these
two readings correctly. Have you noticed anything like this after your
update? 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Netatmo Rain Sensor has been released

 

Hello Netatmo Weather Station Users,

 

Just thought I let you know that the Netatmo rain sensor is now available.
You may have seen a recent update to the Netatmo app and if you checked the
What's New you would have seen that the main item was support for the new
rain sensor.

 

This means you can now have the weather station which consists of the main
indoor module and 1 outdoor module, you can add up to 3 more additional
indoor modules and now the rain sensor. The indoor module measures current
indoor temperature, minimum and maximum temperature for the current day
(from 12:00 AM until 11:59 PM), indoor humidity, CO2 level and noise (sound
meter is only on the main indoor module, it is not supported for the
additional indoor modules).

The outdoor module measures current temperature, Feels Like temperature,
minimum and maximum temperature, humidity and pressure. It also gives an air
quality value, but that is accessed from official air quality sensors so
depending where you are it may or may not be accurate.

 

Now that the rain sensor has been added the weather station is another step
to being more complete, as far as I know Netatmo will be releasing an
Anemometer (wind sensor) later this year or next year.

 

The rain sensor, just like the additional indoor modules, is $79, shipping
to Canada was $17 and I think in the States it is $8. If you already own the
weather station and have the app you can order right from there. I
discovered a button one swipe to the right of the Last Updated field,
Voiceover reads it as PluvioMeterStation button. Not sure what if anything
this means, but if you tap it you are taken to a page which starts with
Rain Gauge for the Netatmo Weather Station, there is a Close button at the
top right and information about the rain gauge including a message that says
you can preorder it and that it will be shipped within 15 days.

It also then says that it is in stock, that you can add 1 rain gauge to a
Netatmo Weather Station and it gives the price and an Add to Cart button.

I went through the ordering and check-out process easily, everything is
fully accessible and you can pay via Amazon EasyPay, PayPal or credit card.

 

Now, the warning I should give is that I have not yet spoken to Carlos, the
head developer, as to whether the readings from the rain gauge are
accessible for Voiceover users. I have emailed him and once I get a reply
I'll of course report what he said. I also ordered my rain gauge and provide
more feedback once I have it and connected it to my station. I am quite
certain that given Netatmo's commitment to accessibility that the
information from the rain gauge is or will be accessible, but for those who
want to be careful it might be a good idea to wait.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Netatmo Rain Sensor has been released

[don bishop]

This sounds quite interesting.  Is the rain gauge part of the outdoor 
modulewhich measuresthe items you mentioned in your post or do you have to buy 
an outdoor module plus the rain gauge? 

Thanks,
Don



- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 12, 2014 11:41 am
Subject: Netatmo Rain Sensor has been released



 Hello Netatmo Weather Station Users,
  
 Just thought I let you know that the Netatmo rain sensor is now available. 
 You may have seen a recent update to the Netatmo app and if you checked the 
 What's New you would have seen that the main item was support for the new 
 rain sensor.
  
 This means you can now have the weather station which consists of the main 
 indoor module and 1 outdoor module, you can add up to 3 more additional 
 indoor modules and now the rain sensor. The indoor module measures current 
 indoor temperature, minimum and maximum temperature for the current day (from 
 12:00 AM until 11:59 PM), indoor humidity, CO2 level and noise (sound meter 
 is only on the main indoor module, it is not supported for the additional 
 indoor modules).
 The outdoor module measures current temperature, Feels Like temperature, 
 minimum and maximum temperature, humidity and pressure. It also gives an air 
 quality value, but that is accessed from official air quality sensors so 
 depending where you are it may or may not be accurate.
  
 Now that the rain sensor has been added the weather station is another step 
 to being more complete, as far as I know Netatmo will be releasing an 
 Anemometer (wind sensor) later this year or next year.
  
 The rain sensor, just like the additional indoor modules, is $79, shipping to 
 Canada was $17 and I think in the States it is $8. If you already own the 
 weather station and have the app you can order right from there. I discovered 
 a button one swipe to the right of the Last Updated field, Voiceover reads 
 it as PluvioMeterStation button. Not sure what if anything this means, but 
 if you tap it you are taken to a page which starts with Rain Gauge for the 
 Netatmo Weather Station, there is a Close button at the top right and 
 information about the rain gauge including a message that says you can 
 preorder it and that it will be shipped within 15 days.
 It also then says that it is in stock, that you can add 1 rain gauge to a 
 Netatmo Weather Station and it gives the price and an Add to Cart button.
 I went through the ordering and check-out process easily, everything is fully 
 accessible and you can pay via Amazon EasyPay, PayPal or credit card.
  
 Now, the warning I should give is that I have not yet spoken to Carlos, the 
 head developer, as to whether the readings from the rain gauge are accessible 
 for Voiceover users. I have emailed him and once I get a reply I'll of course 
 report what he said. I also ordered my rain gauge and provide more feedback 
 once I have it and connected it to my station. I am quite certain that given 
 Netatmo's commitment to accessibility that the information from the rain 
 gauge is or will be accessible, but for those who want to be careful it might 
 be a good idea to wait.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
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Re: Netatmo - successfully setup 2 additional inddor modules

[Tom Frank]

I, too, really enjoy my Netatmo weather Station.  Since I heat with wood, I 
have the base station at the other end of the living room, away from the stove.

There is one major problem with the weather station; it doesn't lie. The 
outdoor temperature is now fifteen below zero.   I can't wait until July and 
see if it will hit 70.
Tom Frank
vermont...@gmail.com




On Jan 1, 2014, at 9:40 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Hi,
  
 For those of you who may use, or are considering to acquire, the Netatmo 
 weather station, I just wanted to let you know that I purchased 2 additional 
 inddor modules, and was able to set them up without sighted assistance 
 (though Sieghard provided some useful guidance!).
  
 I am quite pleased that I now can monitor 3 different locations within our 
 home for temperature, and the outdoor temperature as well. We only have 2 
 zone controls in our house, for 3 living areas, and it’s sometimes a juggling 
 act to try to figure out what’s going on when one person is cold, another is 
 hot, and yet another feels the temperature is fine. The information generated 
 by these independent monitors, and easily accessible on my iPhone 5, is 
 really valuable to me.
  
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Re: Netatmo Weather Station and Indoor Modules Black Friday 15% off discount through 12/2

[Joanne Chua]

I saw a similar promotion thru Apple Store Black Friday promotion. It isn't 
discounted or such, but you get a $25Apple Store give card with it. That turn 
out to be around 15% to 20% credit.
That was in Australia Apple Store. So, my guess is that, you will get similar 
promotion on Apple Store or Apple online store around the world today.

Regards
Joanne

Sent from my iPad

On 29/11/2013, at 4:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Thanks, Keith, for posting this. I just told another Netatmo user, Thomas, 
 that last year they had the 15% off Black Friday promotion, but that so far I 
 had not received a notice about it. After you posted this I checked my email 
 and also had the notice about it now.
  
 For those who don’t own a Netatmo Weather Station and are interested, just go 
 to http://shop.netatmo.com where you can order it. The price is $179.00 so 
 with 15% off you get it for $152.15 and I guess you get free shipping if you 
 are in the States.
 If somebody has the main weather station and wants to add additional indoor 
 modules (3 is the maximum you can add) you can get them for $79 each, $67.15 
 with the discount.
 Netatmo is also working to release a rain and wind sensor, not sure if this 
 will be a combined rain/wind sensor or if they will be separate.
  
 If somebody wants to know more about Netatmo you can read about it on their 
 website and/or go to the list archive (link is at the bottom of each post) 
 and put “Netatmo” in the search box.
 It’s a unique name so you only get results which are relevant.
  
 I have been Beta testing for them earlier this year and they made the 
 readings for both the indoor and outdoor results fully Voiceover accessible. 
 The setup process which was not very accessible at all at the beginning is 
 now also fully accessible. When I contacted them I was the first and only 
 blind user, but they were very open towards looking at accessibility and once 
 they got started it was a great experience.
  
 One caution: if you still have a 3.5 inch device like an iPhone 3GS, 4 or 4S 
 or an iPod Touch Third or Fourth Gen, the buttons to select between different 
 indoor modules are not accessible. They are perfectly accessible on devices 
 with a 4 inch screen and I think also on the iPad, but for 3.5 inch devices 
 this still needs to be fixed, but I was told it will be fixed in an update 
 fairly soon.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Netatmo Weather Station and Indoor Modules Black Friday 15% off 
 discount through 12/2
  
 Hi,
  
 Sieghard has informed many of us about Netatmo.com and the usability of its 
 weather products with VoiceOver.
  
 I received notice today of a 15% discount code through Monday 12/2. The code 
 is blackfriday if you’re interested. I got free shipping as well, in the US.
  
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RE: Netatmo Weather Station and Indoor Modules Black Friday 15% off discount through 12/2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks, Keith, for posting this. I just told another Netatmo user, Thomas,
that last year they had the 15% off Black Friday promotion, but that so far
I had not received a notice about it. After you posted this I checked my
email and also had the notice about it now.

 

For those who don't own a Netatmo Weather Station and are interested, just
go to http://shop.netatmo.com where you can order it. The price is $179.00
so with 15% off you get it for $152.15 and I guess you get free shipping if
you are in the States.

If somebody has the main weather station and wants to add additional indoor
modules (3 is the maximum you can add) you can get them for $79 each, $67.15
with the discount.

Netatmo is also working to release a rain and wind sensor, not sure if this
will be a combined rain/wind sensor or if they will be separate.

 

If somebody wants to know more about Netatmo you can read about it on their
website and/or go to the list archive (link is at the bottom of each post)
and put Netatmo in the search box.

It's a unique name so you only get results which are relevant.

 

I have been Beta testing for them earlier this year and they made the
readings for both the indoor and outdoor results fully Voiceover accessible.
The setup process which was not very accessible at all at the beginning is
now also fully accessible. When I contacted them I was the first and only
blind user, but they were very open towards looking at accessibility and
once they got started it was a great experience.

 

One caution: if you still have a 3.5 inch device like an iPhone 3GS, 4 or 4S
or an iPod Touch Third or Fourth Gen, the buttons to select between
different indoor modules are not accessible. They are perfectly accessible
on devices with a 4 inch screen and I think also on the iPad, but for 3.5
inch devices this still needs to be fixed, but I was told it will be fixed
in an update fairly soon.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Netatmo Weather Station and Indoor Modules Black Friday 15% off
discount through 12/2

 

Hi,

 

Sieghard has informed many of us about Netatmo.com and the usability of its
weather products with VoiceOver.

 

I received notice today of a 15% discount code through Monday 12/2. The code
is blackfriday if you're interested. I got free shipping as well, in the US.

 

Best, Keith

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Re: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

[Sean Paul]

Thanks for the information on their email list  thanks for adding me to your 
group list as well. Yes, I also think they've a good thing going. I'm wanting 
the wind  rain sincors as well as the current indoor  outdoor sincers. I was 
under the impression that the current system as it were now cost 180 US dollars 
 currently includes 1 indoor  one outdoor sincer. I'll go check their website 
to insure that the information as correct as I have it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 22:04
  Subject: RE: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules


  Hi Sean Paul,

   

  I think I'll make a little distribution list in Outlook with people I know 
have the weather station or are interested and that way I can easily post to 
the group as well as to that group of people which means it is less likely to 
miss one of my posts. In any case, I will definitely let the list know when the 
additional sensors become available although even now as it is the Weather 
Station is very good, support for the additional indoor modules will most 
likely not take long and I guess one advantage of buying a station with just an 
extra indoor module is that you don't have to come up with all the money at 
once, it's not a cheap accessory. On the other hand you can also spend several 
hundreds of Dollars on a really good wireless weather station which only has 
the outdoor sensors and an indoor station with a LCD screen which of course 
isn't accessible and also is not accessible for a sighted person unless they 
are standing in front of it.

   

  I think Netatmo has a good thing going and as far as I know nobody else has 
yet come out with a competitive product.

   

  If anybody wants direct news about this let me know and I'll put you in my 
Netatmo email list. You can, of course, also sign up to receive a newsletter 
from Netatmo directly by going to the following link:

   

  http://blog.netatmo.com

   

  Just go to the second edit field, fill in your email and click Subscribe.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sean Paul
  Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:16 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

   

  Siegard:

  Please please let me know when both adicional sensors are avable, I'm very 
interested in getting this whole weather station package.

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From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:47

Subject: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

 

Hello Netatmo users,

 

I just wanted to send a brief update for those who bought a Netatmo Weater 
Station.

 

If you read my last message you are aware of the fact that Netatmo is now 
offering additional indoor modules for $79. I received one of these which I put 
in my basement after pairing it with my station. The pairing process was easy, 
fully accessible and I am including a detailed step-by-step description at the 
end of the message since this will only be of interest for those who have a 
station and are planning to buy an extra module or modules.

 

I would like to point out that for the next couple of weeks the additional 
module will not be of much use to a Voiceover user since the measurements it 
provides are not yet accessible with Voiceover. I just received a message from 
Netatmo's head developer, Carlos, and he said he will work on this and send me 
a Beta version to check out what he has done shortly. If my past experience is 
an indicator I would expect he will do this quite quickly and I will let 
everybody know, of course after I give him my feedback he still has to release 
an official update with those changes.

 

Neil had asuggested that it would be good if the Weather Station could 
include pollen count and Carlos told me that this is something they will be 
looking at further on down the road. I believe this year they are busy with 
getting 2 more sensors released, a rain sensor and a wind speed sensor. Once 
these 2 add-ons are available the Netatmo Weather Station will be as good as 
just about anything that is out there but of course its other features like 
being able to check the readings from anywhere in the world via the app make it 
even better.

 

OK, here now the description/instruction regarding the pairing process:

 

Double tap on the Menu button at the top left, it becomes a Settings 
button, double tap on that.

It will take a moment for the Settings menu to load since I believe it 
accesses information online.

Now double tap on My Stations.

Double tap on Add/Remove a Module

On the screen that appears you will see a heading called Setup at the top 
and a Next button to the right, double tap

RE: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks, Sieghard.

What is meant by Plug in the Netatmo Station's big module? Does this mean to 
USB connect the main station to the PC?

This info is very helpful. Once I hear from you the data from the accessory 
module is read by VO, I'll be buying 2 modules.

Thanks. Keith

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iApp Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

Hello Netatmo users,

I just wanted to send a brief update for those who bought a Netatmo Weater 
Station.

If you read my last message you are aware of the fact that Netatmo is now 
offering additional indoor modules for $79. I received one of these which I put 
in my basement after pairing it with my station. The pairing process was easy, 
fully accessible and I am including a detailed step-by-step description at the 
end of the message since this will only be of interest for those who have a 
station and are planning to buy an extra module or modules.

I would like to point out that for the next couple of weeks the additional 
module will not be of much use to a Voiceover user since the measurements it 
provides are not yet accessible with Voiceover. I just received a message from 
Netatmo's head developer, Carlos, and he said he will work on this and send me 
a Beta version to check out what he has done shortly. If my past experience is 
an indicator I would expect he will do this quite quickly and I will let 
everybody know, of course after I give him my feedback he still has to release 
an official update with those changes.

Neil had asuggested that it would be good if the Weather Station could include 
pollen count and Carlos told me that this is something they will be looking at 
further on down the road. I believe this year they are busy with getting 2 more 
sensors released, a rain sensor and a wind speed sensor. Once these 2 add-ons 
are available the Netatmo Weather Station will be as good as just about 
anything that is out there but of course its other features like being able to 
check the readings from anywhere in the world via the app make it even better.

OK, here now the description/instruction regarding the pairing process:

Double tap on the Menu button at the top left, it becomes a Settings button, 
double tap on that.
It will take a moment for the Settings menu to load since I believe it accesses 
information online.
Now double tap on My Stations.
Double tap on Add/Remove a Module
On the screen that appears you will see a heading called Setup at the top and 
a Next button to the right, double tap on that.
You now will find the following text: Please plug in the Netatmo Station's big 
module, double tap Next once again at the top right.
Voiceover will now say : Touch and hold the top of the station for 10 seconds. 
After you do that, double tap Next
If you explore the screen, Voiceover will read Your station is powering up, 
please wait.
You should hear a tone, and you will find Please select an accessory.
The choices are: Netatmo and Cancel, double tap on Netatmo.
Now you find: Congratulations, you will now be able to add modules to your 
station or remove them. Double tap on Next at the top right again.
On the next screen you have a heading called Modules at the top and a Done 
button to the right of that.
If you swipe right or explore the screen further you find:
Outdoor Modules
Garden, button: that is of course what it says on my screen since I named my 
outdoor module Garden.
Indoor Modules
New Indoor Module, button: double tap on that.
Now on the next screen it says: Please insert batteries in the module. If 
batteries were already inserted, please remove, wait 20 seconds and insert them.
Find the Next button at the top right and double tap it (after you insert the 
batteries of course).
It will now instruct you to Place the Module near your station, do that and 
once again double tap on Next.
You will now find the following on the screen: Modules which is indicated by 
Voiceover as a heading.
The following is all it says, of course it can take a moment until you get the 
message that it found the new module and for me it did say a couple of times 
that it couldn't find a module at first, but I think the person I asked as to 
how the batteries go in told me to put them in the wrong way and I had to 
experiment. The way I described above is definitely correct.
In progress.
The station is looking for the module.
Congratulations, the station found a new module.
New Module, that is a text field and can be edited in the normal way.
I renamed my new module Basement and then double tapped on the Done button 
at the top right.
Now I see the screen again with heading Modules and it lists my outdoor and 
indoor modules.
Under Outdoor modules I have Garden as before.
Under Indoor Modules I now have Basement, button and New Module where 
before all I had was New Module.
There is another Done 

Re: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

[Sean Paul]

Siegard:
Please please let me know when both adicional sensors are avable, I'm very 
interested in getting this whole weather station package.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:47
  Subject: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules


  Hello Netatmo users,

   

  I just wanted to send a brief update for those who bought a Netatmo Weater 
Station.

   

  If you read my last message you are aware of the fact that Netatmo is now 
offering additional indoor modules for $79. I received one of these which I put 
in my basement after pairing it with my station. The pairing process was easy, 
fully accessible and I am including a detailed step-by-step description at the 
end of the message since this will only be of interest for those who have a 
station and are planning to buy an extra module or modules.

   

  I would like to point out that for the next couple of weeks the additional 
module will not be of much use to a Voiceover user since the measurements it 
provides are not yet accessible with Voiceover. I just received a message from 
Netatmo's head developer, Carlos, and he said he will work on this and send me 
a Beta version to check out what he has done shortly. If my past experience is 
an indicator I would expect he will do this quite quickly and I will let 
everybody know, of course after I give him my feedback he still has to release 
an official update with those changes.

   

  Neil had asuggested that it would be good if the Weather Station could 
include pollen count and Carlos told me that this is something they will be 
looking at further on down the road. I believe this year they are busy with 
getting 2 more sensors released, a rain sensor and a wind speed sensor. Once 
these 2 add-ons are available the Netatmo Weather Station will be as good as 
just about anything that is out there but of course its other features like 
being able to check the readings from anywhere in the world via the app make it 
even better.

   

  OK, here now the description/instruction regarding the pairing process:

   

  Double tap on the Menu button at the top left, it becomes a Settings button, 
double tap on that.

  It will take a moment for the Settings menu to load since I believe it 
accesses information online.

  Now double tap on My Stations.

  Double tap on Add/Remove a Module

  On the screen that appears you will see a heading called Setup at the top 
and a Next button to the right, double tap on that.

  You now will find the following text: Please plug in the Netatmo Station's 
big module, double tap Next once again at the top right.

  Voiceover will now say : Touch and hold the top of the station for 10 
seconds. After you do that, double tap Next

  If you explore the screen, Voiceover will read Your station is powering up, 
please wait.

  You should hear a tone, and you will find Please select an accessory.

  The choices are: Netatmo and Cancel, double tap on Netatmo.

  Now you find: Congratulations, you will now be able to add modules to your 
station or remove them. Double tap on Next at the top right again.

  On the next screen you have a heading called Modules at the top and a 
Done button to the right of that.

  If you swipe right or explore the screen further you find:

  Outdoor Modules

  Garden, button: that is of course what it says on my screen since I named my 
outdoor module Garden.

  Indoor Modules

  New Indoor Module, button: double tap on that.

  Now on the next screen it says: Please insert batteries in the module. If 
batteries were already inserted, please remove, wait 20 seconds and insert them.

  Find the Next button at the top right and double tap it (after you insert the 
batteries of course).

  It will now instruct you to Place the Module near your station, do that and 
once again double tap on Next.

  You will now find the following on the screen: Modules which is indicated by 
Voiceover as a heading.

  The following is all it says, of course it can take a moment until you get 
the message that it found the new module and for me it did say a couple of 
times that it couldn't find a module at first, but I think the person I asked 
as to how the batteries go in told me to put them in the wrong way and I had to 
experiment. The way I described above is definitely correct.

  In progress.

  The station is looking for the module. 

  Congratulations, the station found a new module.

  New Module, that is a text field and can be edited in the normal way.

  I renamed my new module Basement and then double tapped on the Done 
button at the top right.

  Now I see the screen again with heading Modules and it lists my outdoor and 
indoor modules.

  Under Outdoor modules I have Garden as before.

  Under Indoor Modules I now have Basement, button and New Module where 
before all I had was New Module.

  There is another Done button at the top right, double tap 

RE: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Keith,

 

Sorry, it just means to make sure your main module is plugged in with USB
power to the wall adapter which is the suggested way to use it. It does also
have 4 Triple A batteries, but they are meant as backup power in case of a
power outage.

 

I also just realized that |I never did explain how the batteries need to go
in, well, I did actually explain it in one of my much earlier posts, but not
in this last one. I meant to open up the new indoor module just to make sure
I don't say it wrong and then add that in, but I sent the message and
totally forgot. I'll send another message with that information when I get
home a bit later.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:54 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

 

Thanks, Sieghard.

 

What is meant by Plug in the Netatmo Station's big module? Does this mean
to USB connect the main station to the PC?

 

This info is very helpful. Once I hear from you the data from the accessory
module is read by VO, I'll be buying 2 modules.

 

Thanks. Keith

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iApp Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

 

Hello Netatmo users,

 

I just wanted to send a brief update for those who bought a Netatmo Weater
Station.

 

If you read my last message you are aware of the fact that Netatmo is now
offering additional indoor modules for $79. I received one of these which I
put in my basement after pairing it with my station. The pairing process was
easy, fully accessible and I am including a detailed step-by-step
description at the end of the message since this will only be of interest
for those who have a station and are planning to buy an extra module or
modules.

 

I would like to point out that for the next couple of weeks the additional
module will not be of much use to a Voiceover user since the measurements it
provides are not yet accessible with Voiceover. I just received a message
from Netatmo's head developer, Carlos, and he said he will work on this and
send me a Beta version to check out what he has done shortly. If my past
experience is an indicator I would expect he will do this quite quickly and
I will let everybody know, of course after I give him my feedback he still
has to release an official update with those changes.

 

Neil had asuggested that it would be good if the Weather Station could
include pollen count and Carlos told me that this is something they will be
looking at further on down the road. I believe this year they are busy with
getting 2 more sensors released, a rain sensor and a wind speed sensor. Once
these 2 add-ons are available the Netatmo Weather Station will be as good as
just about anything that is out there but of course its other features like
being able to check the readings from anywhere in the world via the app make
it even better.

 

OK, here now the description/instruction regarding the pairing process:

 

Double tap on the Menu button at the top left, it becomes a Settings button,
double tap on that.

It will take a moment for the Settings menu to load since I believe it
accesses information online.

Now double tap on My Stations.

Double tap on Add/Remove a Module

On the screen that appears you will see a heading called Setup at the top
and a Next button to the right, double tap on that.

You now will find the following text: Please plug in the Netatmo Station's
big module, double tap Next once again at the top right.

Voiceover will now say : Touch and hold the top of the station for 10
seconds. After you do that, double tap Next

If you explore the screen, Voiceover will read Your station is powering up,
please wait.

You should hear a tone, and you will find Please select an accessory.

The choices are: Netatmo and Cancel, double tap on Netatmo.

Now you find: Congratulations, you will now be able to add modules to your
station or remove them. Double tap on Next at the top right again.

On the next screen you have a heading called Modules at the top and a
Done button to the right of that.

If you swipe right or explore the screen further you find:

Outdoor Modules

Garden, button: that is of course what it says on my screen since I named my
outdoor module Garden.

Indoor Modules

New Indoor Module, button: double tap on that.

Now on the next screen it says: Please insert batteries in the module. If
batteries were already inserted, please remove, wait 20 seconds and insert
them.

Find the Next button at the top right and double tap it (after you insert
the batteries of course).

It will now instruct you to Place the Module near your station, do that
and once again double tap on Next.

You will now find the following on the screen: Modules which

RE: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sean Paul,

 

I think I'll make a little distribution list in Outlook with people I know
have the weather station or are interested and that way I can easily post to
the group as well as to that group of people which means it is less likely
to miss one of my posts. In any case, I will definitely let the list know
when the additional sensors become available although even now as it is the
Weather Station is very good, support for the additional indoor modules will
most likely not take long and I guess one advantage of buying a station with
just an extra indoor module is that you don't have to come up with all the
money at once, it's not a cheap accessory. On the other hand you can also
spend several hundreds of Dollars on a really good wireless weather station
which only has the outdoor sensors and an indoor station with a LCD screen
which of course isn't accessible and also is not accessible for a sighted
person unless they are standing in front of it.

 

I think Netatmo has a good thing going and as far as I know nobody else has
yet come out with a competitive product.

 

If anybody wants direct news about this let me know and I'll put you in my
Netatmo email list. You can, of course, also sign up to receive a newsletter
from Netatmo directly by going to the following link:

 

http://blog.netatmo.com

 

Just go to the second edit field, fill in your email and click Subscribe.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

 

Siegard:

Please please let me know when both adicional sensors are avable, I'm very
interested in getting this whole weather station package.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:47

Subject: Netatmo update regarding additional indoor modules

 

Hello Netatmo users,

 

I just wanted to send a brief update for those who bought a Netatmo Weater
Station.

 

If you read my last message you are aware of the fact that Netatmo is now
offering additional indoor modules for $79. I received one of these which I
put in my basement after pairing it with my station. The pairing process was
easy, fully accessible and I am including a detailed step-by-step
description at the end of the message since this will only be of interest
for those who have a station and are planning to buy an extra module or
modules.

 

I would like to point out that for the next couple of weeks the additional
module will not be of much use to a Voiceover user since the measurements it
provides are not yet accessible with Voiceover. I just received a message
from Netatmo's head developer, Carlos, and he said he will work on this and
send me a Beta version to check out what he has done shortly. If my past
experience is an indicator I would expect he will do this quite quickly and
I will let everybody know, of course after I give him my feedback he still
has to release an official update with those changes.

 

Neil had asuggested that it would be good if the Weather Station could
include pollen count and Carlos told me that this is something they will be
looking at further on down the road. I believe this year they are busy with
getting 2 more sensors released, a rain sensor and a wind speed sensor. Once
these 2 add-ons are available the Netatmo Weather Station will be as good as
just about anything that is out there but of course its other features like
being able to check the readings from anywhere in the world via the app make
it even better.

 

OK, here now the description/instruction regarding the pairing process:

 

Double tap on the Menu button at the top left, it becomes a Settings button,
double tap on that.

It will take a moment for the Settings menu to load since I believe it
accesses information online.

Now double tap on My Stations.

Double tap on Add/Remove a Module

On the screen that appears you will see a heading called Setup at the top
and a Next button to the right, double tap on that.

You now will find the following text: Please plug in the Netatmo Station's
big module, double tap Next once again at the top right.

Voiceover will now say : Touch and hold the top of the station for 10
seconds. After you do that, double tap Next

If you explore the screen, Voiceover will read Your station is powering up,
please wait.

You should hear a tone, and you will find Please select an accessory.

The choices are: Netatmo and Cancel, double tap on Netatmo.

Now you find: Congratulations, you will now be able to add modules to your
station or remove them. Double tap on Next at the top right again.

On the next screen you have a heading called Modules at the top and a
Done button to the right of that.

If you swipe right or explore the screen further you find:

Outdoor Modules

Garden

RE: Netatmo ordering problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Keith,

 

I can't remember if I had such a message or not.

 

I CC'd Laura from the marketing/customer service department of Netatmo.
Laura, could you read Keith's message below and maybe contact him regarding
ordering the weather station? You can email Keith at
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:44 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Netatmo ordering problem

 

Hi,

 

I went to Netatmo.com this evening to order one of their weather stations.
After clicking Buy Now to go to their order page, I got a webpage that
indicated a warning due to a problem with their security certificate and
stating to not continue with this webpage. I got this message after several
more tries, as well.

 

Anybody have any insight into this?

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

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RE: Netatmo weather station

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Kevin,

 

Sorry for the late reply, but in case you haven't figured it out already,
here is how the batteries should go in both in the indoor and outdoor module
of the weather station.

 

I assume you found the large round cover at the end of each module and that
there are 4 triple A batteries going into each, 2 openings with 2 batteries
in each. Since the modules are perfectly round, I'll describe this using the
clock face.

 

Turn the modules so that the 2 holes for the batteries are in the 6 o'clock
position (closest to you).

The 2 batteries in the left hand opening go in so that the little knob on
the battery is facing up.

The 2 batteries in the right hand opening go in so that the little knob is
facing down (the smooth end of the battery is up).

 

The indoor module should be plugged in using the included USB cable and USB
Wall Adapter, the batteries are for backup purposes only in case there is a
power outage.

 

Did you have to use the convenient OCR feature in Jaws to read the screens
of the setup wizard or did Netatmo make this accessible now?

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of kroggeman
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: marie baisez
Subject: Re: Netatmo weather station

 

Sieghard, I just purchased the Netatmo and used the network wizard along
with JAWS to get it setup.  I tried to do it with just the iPhone but was
unable to do it.  I am having difficulty with the outdoor thermometer.  I'm
not getting any data from it at all.  Do all the batteries have the positive
side toward the twist-on cover?

 

I figured I'd check with you before I contact the people at Netatmo.

 

Thanks,

 

Kevin

 

 
On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 2:53:06 AM UTC-6, marie wrote:

Thank you very much for this information, I am very interested in this as it
seems to be the only accessible weather station available at the moment,
could you please outline the difficulties you had connecting the station to
your WIFI set up and explaining details how you managed to resolve them
either on or off list?

I haven't got anyone with useful vision or technically minded around me
therefore wouldn't buy the station if it was very tricky to set up
independently.

Your thoughts/comments very much welcomed on this matter and all other
information you think I should know before buying this device, on or off
list.

Thank you in advance,

Looking forward to reading more!

Marie 



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Re: Netatmo weather station

[kroggeman]

Sieghard, Thanks for the tips on the batteries.  The outside 
thermometer works now.  I did have to use the Convenient OCR to use the 
network wizard.  Did you have to do something to get the weather forecast 
to come up?  I don't have anything to tap on for the forecast.  I'm 
wondering if it's not available for where I live.
 
I can't wait for the rain and wind meters that will be coming this year.
 
Again thanks for all of your help.
 
Kevin

 

On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 2:53:06 AM UTC-6, marie wrote:

  Thank you very much for this information, I am very interested in this 
 as it seems to be the only accessible weather station available at the 
 moment, could you please outline the difficulties you had connecting the 
 station to your WIFI set up and explaining details how you managed to 
 resolve them either on or off list?
 I haven't got anyone with useful vision or technically minded around me  
 therefore wouldn't buy the station if it was very tricky to set up 
 independently.
 Your thoughts/comments very much welcomed on this matter and all other 
 information you think I should know before buying this device, on or off 
 list.
 Thank you in advance,
 Looking forward to reading more!
 Marie 


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RE: Netatmo weather station

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Kevin,

 

I don't think the forecast is in an accessible format just like the graphs
sighted people get in landscape mode aren't. I don't really miss the
forecast feature since I prefer to use Degrees which is a weather app
pspecifically for Canadian weather and it's very nicely accessible and
detailed.

 

It's good to hear that you were able to set it up using Convenient OCR, I
was able to do so as well, but it's definitely a bit of a guessing game and
I will try to lobby Netatmo to make the setup wizard accessible.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of kroggeman
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 4:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo weather station

 

Sieghard, Thanks for the tips on the batteries.  The outside thermometer
works now.  I did have to use the Convenient OCR to use the network wizard.
Did you have to do something to get the weather forecast to come up?  I
don't have anything to tap on for the forecast.  I'm wondering if it's not
available for where I live.

 

I can't wait for the rain and wind meters that will be coming this year.

 

Again thanks for all of your help.

 

Kevin



 


On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 2:53:06 AM UTC-6, marie wrote:

Thank you very much for this information, I am very interested in this as it
seems to be the only accessible weather station available at the moment,
could you please outline the difficulties you had connecting the station to
your WIFI set up and explaining details how you managed to resolve them
either on or off list?

I haven't got anyone with useful vision or technically minded around me
therefore wouldn't buy the station if it was very tricky to set up
independently.

Your thoughts/comments very much welcomed on this matter and all other
information you think I should know before buying this device, on or off
list.

Thank you in advance,

Looking forward to reading more!

Marie 



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Re: Netatmo weather station

[kroggeman]

Sieghard, I just purchased the Netatmo and used the network wizard along 
with JAWS to get it setup.  I tried to do it with just the iPhone but was 
unable to do it.  I am having difficulty with the outdoor thermometer.  I'm 
not getting any data from it at all.  Do all the batteries have the 
positive side toward the twist-on cover?
 
I figured I'd check with you before I contact the people at Netatmo.
 
Thanks,
 
Kevin
 
 
On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 2:53:06 AM UTC-6, marie wrote:

  Thank you very much for this information, I am very interested in this 
 as it seems to be the only accessible weather station available at the 
 moment, could you please outline the difficulties you had connecting the 
 station to your WIFI set up and explaining details how you managed to 
 resolve them either on or off list?
 I haven't got anyone with useful vision or technically minded around me  
 therefore wouldn't buy the station if it was very tricky to set up 
 independently.
 Your thoughts/comments very much welcomed on this matter and all other 
 information you think I should know before buying this device, on or off 
 list.
 Thank you in advance,
 Looking forward to reading more!
 Marie 


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RE: Netatmo weather station

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Marie,

 

Just to answer your question about the indoor and outdoor module, no setup
is necessary, they are pre-paired and as soon as you put the batteries in
the outdoor module and the indoor module is plugged in they will talk to
each other automatically. The indoor module also takes some batteries, but
they are only meant to be for backup in case the power goes away or there is
a power fluctuation. The unit comes with a normal I think it's a micro USB
cable and it also comes with a USB wall adapter like you get with many
devices nowadays. Just plug the USB wall adapter in an outlet, plug the USB
cable into it and the micro USB plug on the cable into the indoor module and
you are done. I'll also check how the batteries go in, they are Triple A and
come with the weather station, and I'll let you know.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of marie baisez
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Netatmo weather station

 

Sieghard, thank you very much for the info, looking forward to what you will
have to say when you reconnect the unit to your new router using your
IPhone.

I've read all the details about the station on the site and will definitely
buy it if you find it easy to set up.

How about setting the connection between the indoor and outdoor unit? Is it
done via your I device as well? Is it totally accessible? I'd rather not use
a PC unless it's absolutely necessary to do any of the setting up as my
version of JAWS is not as recent as yours and I can't update it easily. but
we won't go into that!

Looking forward to hear from you soon.

 

Anyone else using the Netatmo weather station? any  comments?/thoughts?

 

Marie

All the best



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RE: Netatmo weather station

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi marie,

 

Initially I couldn't get the weather station to connect to my WiFi and
thought there was a problem, but it turned out to be a bug in their firmware
which wouldn't let it connect to the specific setup I had with a regular,
non Wi-Fi enabled router and an Airport Express which I used to create my
WiFi. I ended up buying a new router and it worked fine although the setup
process on the PC with their wizard is not very accessible. It can be done
if you use Jaws 13 or Jaws 14 by using the Jaws convenient OCR feature, you
basically have to do the OCR on several setup screens and use the Jaws
cursor to click on stuff, far from ideal and somewhat tricky. It is,
however, a snap if you have sighted help, takes all of 2 minutes.

 

Now, having said this, I am actually once again changing my router in a
couple of days and because of it I will have to reconfigure the weather
station to connect to my new WiFi network. I was told by Netatmo that they
improved this process on the iPhone since you don't have to use a computer
to connect your weather station. You can also do it via the app, but in the
past this was also inaccessible. I assume a few more days won't matter to
you, so let me check if this works and how well it works and I'll let you
know. This initial setup is something you won't ever have to do again unless
you change your WiFi in any way and, as I said, the app for daily
use/checking of weather related information is now very nicely accessible.

 

 

Talk to you soon,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of marie baisez
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Netatmo weather station

 

Thank you very much for this information, I am very interested in this as it
seems to be the only accessible weather station available at the moment,
could you please outline the difficulties you had connecting the station to
your WIFI set up and explaining details how you managed to resolve them
either on or off list?

I haven't got anyone with useful vision or technically minded around me
therefore wouldn't buy the station if it was very tricky to set up
independently.

Your thoughts/comments very much welcomed on this matter and all other
information you think I should know before buying this device, on or off
list.

Thank you in advance,

Looking forward to reading more!

Marie 



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RE: Netatmo

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Thank you!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Netatmo

Hi Thomas,

Nothing much new. They did just put out an update, but it didn't address any
accessibility issues. 

I will be contacting them again since they had sent me an invite to be a
Beta Tester and apparently the developers are working on Voiceover stuff.
They did say in an email to me they were going to try and address this
within 4 to 6 weeks and with Christmas and all that I don't want to be too
pushy. I will definitely update the list on improvements here.

One thing I can report is that my WiFi connection problems were definitely
entirely a result of my specific setup. I recently bought a new router which
has WiFi integrated and once I set it up my weather station connected
immediately and with no fuss. I was even able to do this on my own with Jaws
and Convenient OCR even though the interface of the wizard is 100%
graphical.

I'll keep your email, Thomas, and I'll make sure to send you a message
directly as well to make sure you won't miss it if I post to the list.


Regards,
Sieghard



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Is there anything new about the netatmo weather app?

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RE: Netatmo

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Hi Thomas,

Nothing much new. They did just put out an update, but it didn't address any
accessibility issues. 

I will be contacting them again since they had sent me an invite to be a
Beta Tester and apparently the developers are working on Voiceover stuff.
They did say in an email to me they were going to try and address this
within 4 to 6 weeks and with Christmas and all that I don't want to be too
pushy. I will definitely update the list on improvements here.

One thing I can report is that my WiFi connection problems were definitely
entirely a result of my specific setup. I recently bought a new router which
has WiFi integrated and once I set it up my weather station connected
immediately and with no fuss. I was even able to do this on my own with Jaws
and Convenient OCR even though the interface of the wizard is 100%
graphical.

I'll keep your email, Thomas, and I'll make sure to send you a message
directly as well to make sure you won't miss it if I post to the list.


Regards,
Sieghard



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Is there anything new about the netatmo weather app?

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RE: Netatmo Weather Station WiFi connection problem

[Regina Alvarado]

Sieghard:

I do not understand anything about how you have it set up, not at all, Greek
to me.  However, would it be possible to set up with nothing but a router
with wifi and whatever comes with the station?

Reggie

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Netatmo Weather Station WiFi connection problem

 

Hello List,

 

Just a brief update regarding the problems I've been having getting my
Netatmo Weather Station to connect to my WiFi.

 

I just received the following message from Netatmo support after they told
me earlier this week they would try and reproduce the issue by setting up a
network similar to mine with a Netgear router and Airport Express: 

 

From: Netatmo Support [mailto:contact-supp...@netatmo.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 8:30 AM
To: siegh...@hotmail.ca
Subject: RE: WiFi connection problem

 

Hi, 

 

This short email to let you know we have reproduced the Wifi issue with an
Airport been set-up behind a Netgear router. I hope we will be able to
provide a fix next week.

 

Thanks for your patience

fred

 

I was hesitant to recommend the Netatmo Weather Station at first because of
the problem I have, but their support has been exemplary and somebody else
on the list also bought one and had no issues setting it up and I also
connected it to somebody elses WiFi easily (they were using an Airport
Extreme WiFi router). It is apparent that this only affects a small number
of users with somewhat unusual network setups and Netatmo is certainly doing
their best to fix that. Together with their willingness and promise to make
Voiceover improvements in their app I think this company definitely deserves
anybody's support. Of course not everybody wants a wireless weather station,
but if you do, Netatmo is currently the only one I know of that can be
accessed on your iPhone with an app.

 

And please, before you ask what the Netatmo Weather Station is, please
search the archives for Netatmo it's a unique name and all my posts were
in the last 2 or so weeks, so it should be very easy to find and I explained
it all before. You can, of course, always go to www.Netatmo.com and read up
about it on their website.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Netatmo Weather Station WiFi connection problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Reggie,

 

Most people I think have a router which nowadays also has the capability to
create your WiFi network. I have a router which does not have integrated
WiFi, well, at least I do now, next week I get new routers for my business
and home and they will also have WiFi. Anyhow, because my routers currently
don't have WiFi, I use an Airport Express which is plugged into the router
and which in turn creates the WiFi network. You can think of it like when in
the old days people had stereo amplifiers and separate radio tuners for AM
and FM radio. You had an amplifier and connected to it was a separate tuner
with a cable. Nowadays just about everybody has either a stereo or home
theatre receiver which is an amplifier that has an AM/FM tuner built into
it.

 

Similarly a WiFi capable router has the WiFi radio/component built into the
router, it's all in the same box whereas mine is a router and separate WiFi
unit (the Airport Express). Sorry for the long explanation, but I can't help
it *smile*.

 

Anyhow, if you have a router with WiFi at home which most of us do because
we have iPhones, you should have absolutely no issues with the Netatmo
Weather Station to connect to your WiFi. As I said, when I took it to the
store in my town where they sell all the Apple stuff, they connected it to
their WiFi and it was all done in 2 minutes. Just keep in mind that the
setup wizard is currently not accessible, so you would need sighted help,
but once it is connected the information is stored in the unit and you will
never have to do this again unless you change the name or password of your
WiFi network.

 

The iPhone app is mostly accessible, a bit cluttered and you currently can't
get the minimum and maximum temperature readings from the previous day, but
as I said before, the company is awesome and have told me they are looking
into making Voiceover improvements in an update in the next 4-6 weeks.

 

I will continue to report about the progress and will become one of their
Beta Testers although I won't be able to post much about beta versions of
the app officially as developers don't want that. I have, however, a good
feeling about these guys, they are responsive and willing.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Netatmo Weather Station WiFi connection problem

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi Sieghard,

Thanks for this. Have you become aware of any stated guidelines in the 
instructions for how near the outside unit needs to be to the indoor unit to 
establish and maintain that connection?

Thanks in advance. Keith


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Netatmo Weather Station WiFi connection problem

Hi Reggie,

Most people I think have a router which nowadays also has the capability to 
create your WiFi network. I have a router which does not have integrated WiFi, 
well, at least I do now, next week I get new routers for my business and home 
and they will also have WiFi. Anyhow, because my routers currently don't have 
WiFi, I use an Airport Express which is plugged into the router and which in 
turn creates the WiFi network. You can think of it like when in the old days 
people had stereo amplifiers and separate radio tuners for AM and FM radio. You 
had an amplifier and connected to it was a separate tuner with a cable. 
Nowadays just about everybody has either a stereo or home theatre receiver 
which is an amplifier that has an AM/FM tuner built into it.

Similarly a WiFi capable router has the WiFi radio/component built into the 
router, it's all in the same box whereas mine is a router and separate WiFi 
unit (the Airport Express). Sorry for the long explanation, but I can't help it 
*smile*.

Anyhow, if you have a router with WiFi at home which most of us do because we 
have iPhones, you should have absolutely no issues with the Netatmo Weather 
Station to connect to your WiFi. As I said, when I took it to the store in my 
town where they sell all the Apple stuff, they connected it to their WiFi and 
it was all done in 2 minutes. Just keep in mind that the setup wizard is 
currently not accessible, so you would need sighted help, but once it is 
connected the information is stored in the unit and you will never have to do 
this again unless you change the name or password of your WiFi network.

The iPhone app is mostly accessible, a bit cluttered and you currently can't 
get the minimum and maximum temperature readings from the previous day, but as 
I said before, the company is awesome and have told me they are looking into 
making Voiceover improvements in an update in the next 4-6 weeks.

I will continue to report about the progress and will become one of their Beta 
Testers although I won't be able to post much about beta versions of the app 
officially as developers don't want that. I have, however, a good feeling about 
these guys, they are responsive and willing.


Regards,
Sieghard


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RE: Netatmo Weather Station WiFi connection problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

 home or office, you'll need to buy two full sets, each with an indoor
and an outdoor module. This is because, as noted above, the two modules are
pre-paired. A Netatmo representative told Macworld that the company is
considering offering outdoor modules separately in the future.

The only downside to this device is that you cannot see the current
temperature without using an iOS device (or a website). The system would be
a bit more useful if it included a small LED display somewhere on the indoor
unit that could display basic conditions, so you don't have to use your
iPhone or iPad just to check the outdoor temperature.

Bottom line

The Netatmo Weather Station is a bit pricey, but it's a very slick device.
With modern design, good accuracy, and an easy-to-use iOS app, it makes it
simple and fun to check the current weather, as well as to record and view
weather data over time. If you're a weather geek, you'll want to check this
out.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:09 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Netatmo Weather Station WiFi connection problem

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

Thanks for this. Have you become aware of any stated guidelines in the
instructions for how near the outside unit needs to be to the indoor unit to
establish and maintain that connection?

 

Thanks in advance. Keith

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Netatmo Weather Station WiFi connection problem

 

Hi Reggie,

 

Most people I think have a router which nowadays also has the capability to
create your WiFi network. I have a router which does not have integrated
WiFi, well, at least I do now, next week I get new routers for my business
and home and they will also have WiFi. Anyhow, because my routers currently
don't have WiFi, I use an Airport Express which is plugged into the router
and which in turn creates the WiFi network. You can think of it like when in
the old days people had stereo amplifiers and separate radio tuners for AM
and FM radio. You had an amplifier and connected to it was a separate tuner
with a cable. Nowadays just about everybody has either a stereo or home
theatre receiver which is an amplifier that has an AM/FM tuner built into
it.

 

Similarly a WiFi capable router has the WiFi radio/component built into the
router, it's all in the same box whereas mine is a router and separate WiFi
unit (the Airport Express). Sorry for the long explanation, but I can't help
it *smile*.

 

Anyhow, if you have a router with WiFi at home which most of us do because
we have iPhones, you should have absolutely no issues with the Netatmo
Weather Station to connect to your WiFi. As I said, when I took it to the
store in my town where they sell all the Apple stuff, they connected it to
their WiFi and it was all done in 2 minutes. Just keep in mind that the
setup wizard is currently not accessible, so you would need sighted help,
but once it is connected the information is stored in the unit and you will
never have to do this again unless you change the name or password of your
WiFi network.

 

The iPhone app is mostly accessible, a bit cluttered and you currently can't
get the minimum and maximum temperature readings from the previous day, but
as I said before, the company is awesome and have told me they are looking
into making Voiceover improvements in an update in the next 4-6 weeks.

 

I will continue to report about the progress and will become one of their
Beta Testers although I won't be able to post much about beta versions of
the app officially as developers don't want that. I have, however, a good
feeling about these guys, they are responsive and willing.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Netatmo Weather Station WiFi connection problem

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks, Sieghard. It sounds very cool. I suspect one may be in my future.

P.S. - Maybe you should become a distributor! smile


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Netatmo Weather Station WiFi connection problem

Hi Keith,

Here is what they say on the website:

Wireless specifications
Wifi 802.11 b/g/n compatible (2.4GHz).
Supported security: Open/WEP/WPA/WPA2-personal (TKIP and AES).

Wireless connection between modules:
915 MHz or 868 MHz  long range 100m.

If you actually get 100 metres (330 feet) is something you would have to check, 
but I'm sure in most situations you would have the outdoor unit between 5 and 
20 metres away from the indoor unit and in any case, it sounds you have plenty 
of range to place it anywhere on a standard town property.

Here is a review I found which I thought explains the device well and gives a 
balanced summary about it's positive and negative aspects, keep in mind that 
Netatmo only released this product a few weeks ago and I get the impression 
they will follow through with what they promise which, among other things, are 
additional sensors for measuring stuff like rainfall, windspeed etc. I should 
also point out that what the reviewer said about the outdoor unit having to be 
within range of your WiFi network is not correct according to what Netatmo says 
on their website. It actually makes sense that it doesn't have to be in range 
since the indoor unit is what connects to your WiFi and the outdoor unit is 
prepaired with the indoor unit using 915 Mhz, this is a band that was used with 
older cordless phones and I always found that these older 900 Mhz phones had 
much better range. Here the review:

The Netatmo Weather Station is described as the first personal weather station 
for iPhone  iPad.
The Weather Station itself consists of two pieces of hardware, and the company 
provides a free iOS app for accessing weather data from these devices.
Like a standard weather station, the Netatmo Weather Station has an indoor 
module and an outdoor one. Each module is a sleek-looking aluminum and 
white-plastic cylinder; the indoor module is six inches tall, with its outdoor 
counterpart about four inches tall. The indoor module needs to be plugged into 
a power outlet, while the outdoor module uses four AAA batteries. Though the 
battery power means you can place it anywhere, you must position the outdoor 
module in a location that's in range of your Wi-Fi network.

To set up the Weather Station, first you connect a USB cable from an iOS device 
(running the Netatmo app) to the indoor module; the app transfers your 
Wi-Fi-network settings and credentials from your iOS device to the indoor 
module so it can access your network. The outdoor module is pre-paired with the 
indoor module, so after tapping a few setup buttons and screens, the entire 
weather station is up and running.

The Weather Station gets your geographic location from your iPhone, so the 
system is able to determine your exact altitude for calibrating its 
barometric-pressure sensor. In addition to pressure, the Weather Station 
measures temperature, humidity, and, for the indoor module only, CO2 and 
ambient noise level.

Once I set up the Weather Station, I found that it took a few days for readings 
to stabilize. I already own a standard weather station, and there were fairly 
large differences in temperature and humidity readings at first. But after the 
initial-literal-acclimation period, the Netatmo's readings were close to those 
of my existing weather station, which, thanks to recent professional testing, I 
know is accurate to within 1/2 a degree.

To view current readings, you launch the iOS app, which shows all collected 
data and, when you rotate your iOS device to landscape orientation, shows 
graphs of data over time. The Weather Station takes automated readings every 5 
minutes, so these graphs can show you detailed information if, for example, you 
want to know what the temperature was at a particular time during the night. If 
you want to take an instant reading of current conditions, you just press the 
top of the indoor module.
A screen in the Netatmo Weather Station's iOS app
The iOS app is very well designed, letting you see all of the available data in 
a glance. If you drag the horizontal bar (in the middle of the screen) upward, 
you see more information, including the latest indoor CO2-leel and sound-level 
readings; dragging the bar downward shows you weather forecasts for the next 
three days, and you can swipe to the left to see an additional three days. 
These forecasts-obtained over the Internet from weather-forecast sources-are as 
local as possible, since the iOS app uses the precise location of your Weather 
Station, and are updated every three hours.

You can also use multiple Weather Stations

RE: Netatmo Indoor/Outdoor Weather Station - update; this is a must-read

[Sieghard Weitzel]

 will be able to run on your
iPhone or iPad previews of our application before they are actually released
on the App Store. This could allow us to have your feedback on the voiceover
implementation before we make the formal submission of the app on the Apple
Store. To allow multiple devices to run our preview applications, the
“testflighapp” procedure shall be run individually on each test device (for
instance, on an iPhone and on an iPad). If you have time for this we would
appreciate to have your feedback on our first implementations as they arrive
in the next few weeks.

 

Thanks a lot for your patience. I’ll come back to you as soon as possible
with a feedback on the Wifi setting issue once we have reproduced it here…

 

fred

 

10 minutes later I received a separate message from Carlos, one of their
software engineers, with instructions on how to setup a TestFlight account
so I can become a Beta Tester.

 

Needless to say, I am very happy about the level of support I am getting and
Netatmo’s willingness to make Voiceover improvements. This stands in stark
contrast with Neil’s recent post about Sonos who has been asked for years by
Neil, myself and a few other users to make a few minor improvements to their
app like labeling some buttons and who can’t be bothered despite promises
and the fact that in other ways they seem to be a good company with a
definitely excellent product.

 

The Netatmo weather station consists of an indoor module and an outdoor
module. The indoor module is what connects to the WiFi and the outdoor
module connects to the indoor module by I think 2.4 Ghz radio frequency
which means it can be placed a considerable distance away. It should be kept
out of the rain and direct sunlight and I was already told that Netatmo is
working on coming up with an anemometer (a sensor that measures windspeed)
and a gauge for measuring rainfall amounts. All Netatmo stations report
their data back to Netatmo as well and it is their goal to create a super
network of everybody’s Netatmo weather station so that anybody can see the
data from stations that maybe near them because especially in very large
cities micro climates often form and an official government station 5 miles
away may not report conditions correctly. Both units are made from aluminum
and are in the shape of a tube approx. 2 inches thick, the indoor module is
maybe 6 inches long, the outdoor module maybe 4 inches. The outdoor unit is
run by 4 Triple A batteries and the indoor unit can be plugged into an
outlet with a micro USB cable and a USB wall adapter (both included). It can
use 4 Double A batteries as backup in the case of a power outage.

I should mention that apart from indoor and outdoor temperature and humidity
the weather station also measures CO2 levels in your house as well as noise
levels both indoors and outdoors and you can set up alerts for various
events like when certain temperatures are reached, the CO2 level is too high
etc.

The Netatmo weather station can be ordered on their website for $179 and
more information is available at www.Netatmo.com.

 

For other Canadians who maybe interested, shipping to me here in British
Columbia was $19 and I paid $31 to Canada Post when it arrived, approx. $22
was HST and $8 or 9 for the brokerage). This makes it a moderately expensive
gadget, but if you enjoy having access to accurate weather information
inside and directly outside your house this should work well and will
probably work even better in 4 to 6 weeks when the promised Voiceover
improvements hopefully become reality.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jørgen Skov Nielsen
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 6:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo Indoor/Outdoor Weather Station

 

Hello Sieghard

I have also bought a netatmo weather station.

I have no sighted help, but Using the OCR feature in the jaws and several
hours of attempts, I got Netatmo weather station set up. 

After that i can use my netatmo weatherstation on my Iphone, 

I can read out the humidity and temperature, as well as other measurements
such as weather station measures, but the interface is a little cluttered on
the

iPhone with VoiceOver. It is not possible to read the graph with the highest
and lowest temperature.

 

Best regards

Jørgen

 

 

 

Nov 11, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:





Hello List,

 

A couple of weeks ago I briefly mentioned that I found a weather station
which is designed to work with the iPhone. The company is called Netatmo and
their website is  http://www.Netatmo.com www.Netatmo.com for those who
want to read more about it.

 

The basic idea is that you get a wireless weather station which consists of
2 sensors, one for indoors and one for outdoors. The outdoor sensor connects
to the indoor unit and the indoor unit connects to your WiFi. You then use
the free Netatmo app to access the information

Re: Netatmo Indoor/Outdoor Weather Station

[Jørgen Skov Nielsen]

Hello Sieghard
I have also bought a netatmo wether station.
I have no sighted help, but Using the OCR feature in the jaws and several hours 
of attempts, I got Netatmo weather station set up. 
After that i can use my netatmo weatherstation on my Iphone, 
I can read out the humidity and temperatur, as well as other measurements such 
as weather station measures, but the interface is a little cluttered on the
iPhone with VoiceOver. It is not possible to read the graph with the highest 
and lowest temperature.

Best regards
Jørgen



Nov 11, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hello List,
  
 A couple of weeks ago I briefly mentioned that I found a weather station 
 which is designed to work with the iPhone. The company is called Netatmo and 
 their website is www.Netatmo.com for those who want to read more about it.
  
 The basic idea is that you get a wireless weather station which consists of 2 
 sensors, one for indoors and one for outdoors. The outdoor sensor connects to 
 the indoor unit and the indoor unit connects to your WiFi. You then use the 
 free Netatmo app to access the information provided by the sensors which 
 includes outdoor temperature and humidity, indoor temperature, humidity and 
 carbon monoxide levels as well as indoor and outdoor noise levels which is a 
 bit unusual for weather stations, but I guess it could be interesting if you 
 live in a big city and are curious as to how much noise there really is.
  
 Currently the station does not measure windspeed and precipitation, but I was 
 told that they are working on that and I assume this may be added later in 
 the form of additional sensors you can buy. The 2 sensor units consist of a 
 perfectly round tube which is made from aluminum, both are exactly the same 
 diameter (about 2 inches), the outdoor unit is maybe 4 inches long and the 
 indoor unit is maybe 6 inches long. Each unit has a plastic lid on one end 
 with a large slot you can use ith a coin and this is where you put the 
 batteries (it’s almost identical to the battery cover on the Apple Wireless 
 Keyboard except that it’s a lot bigger. The outdoor unit takes 4 Triple A 
 batteries (included), the indoor unit takes 4 Double A batteries (not 
 included). Normally it is recommended that the indoor unit is plugged into a 
 power outlet, it has a micro USB port and comes with a standard USB cable and 
 a wall adapter, batteries are optional and meant for backup in case of a 
 power failure. In addition to the Micro USB port the indoor unit also has a 
 USB port like that on a computer which allows you to plug in the iPhone cable.
  
 Initial setup is done either by plugging your iPhone directly into the unit 
 while it is also plugged into a power outlet, you then open the app and can 
 connect the unit to your home WiFi (this is just necessary once just like 
 when you connect, for example, a WiFi Thermostat. You can also do this 
 initial setup by connecting the unit to your computer and then use a Network 
 Setup Wizard which you can download from the Netatmo website.
  
 OK, all of this sounds very good and straight forward. However, now comes the 
 problem. Both the Network Wizard as well as the setup screen on the Netatmo 
 app are entirely graphical, neither Jaws nor Voiceover reads anything 
 whatsoever except for the title of the Window “Netatmo Setup Wizard” or 
 something like that.
  
 I used the Convenient OCR feature in Jaws and was able to read the welcome 
 screen which basically says Thanks for buying the weather station and there 
 is a next button which I was able to click. Then the OCR gave me a list of 
 available networks and I tried to click my WiFi which was there, but I did 
 not get into the edit field where I could enter my password or maybe I did 
 and Jaws didn’t say it because when I repeated the procedure with sighted 
 help Jaws said nothing like “edit field” but my friend told me I could type 
 the password.
  
 So I finally typed in my password with sighted help and was looking forward 
 to getting this connected to see if the app would give me information 
 Voiceover could read, but the Wizard then told me the station could not be 
 connected to my network and to manually enter static Ip information. I tried 
 everything I could think of and I’m not exactly a beginner when it comes to 
 technology and networking, but no luck.
  
 I then took the unit to work and we tried to connect it to my work WiFi both 
 using the PC wizard as well as the app always with the same result; it could 
 not connect. I am using Apple Airport Express WiFi access points and rarely 
 have a problem with other devices, my Radio Thermostats both at work and at 
 home connected just fine. At this point I can only conclude that the 
 particular unit I received has a faulty WiFi radio or that the product which 
 has only been released very recently is the equivalent of the waste a male 
 member of the bovine species produces. The sensors 

RE: Netatmo Indoor/Outdoor Weather Station

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jorgen,

 

Thanks a lot for posting this. I must simply have a defective unit then
because I have tried and tried again by myself and with sighted help and the
weather station just won’t connect to my WiFi. It sees the network and as
soon as I enter my password (which by the way I did make sure I type
correctly) it fails to connect.

 

I’ll see what Netatmo has to say now that the weekend is over. I noticed
already in demo mode that the app seemed somewhat accessible and I
appreciate you telling me about the High and Low temperatures. Have you
written to them about making their app more accessible?

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jørgen Skov Nielsen
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 6:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netatmo Indoor/Outdoor Weather Station

 

Hello Sieghard

I have also bought a netatmo wether station.

I have no sighted help, but Using the OCR feature in the jaws and several
hours of attempts, I got Netatmo weather station set up. 

After that i can use my netatmo weatherstation on my Iphone, 

I can read out the humidity and temperatur, as well as other measurements
such as weather station measures, but the interface is a little cluttered on
the

iPhone with VoiceOver. It is not possible to read the graph with the highest
and lowest temperature.

 

Best regards

Jørgen

 

 

 

Nov 11, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:





Hello List,

 

A couple of weeks ago I briefly mentioned that I found a weather station
which is designed to work with the iPhone. The company is called Netatmo and
their website is  http://www.Netatmo.com www.Netatmo.com for those who
want to read more about it.

 

The basic idea is that you get a wireless weather station which consists of
2 sensors, one for indoors and one for outdoors. The outdoor sensor connects
to the indoor unit and the indoor unit connects to your WiFi. You then use
the free Netatmo app to access the information provided by the sensors which
includes outdoor temperature and humidity, indoor temperature, humidity and
carbon monoxide levels as well as indoor and outdoor noise levels which is a
bit unusual for weather stations, but I guess it could be interesting if you
live in a big city and are curious as to how much noise there really is.

 

Currently the station does not measure windspeed and precipitation, but I
was told that they are working on that and I assume this may be added later
in the form of additional sensors you can buy. The 2 sensor units consist of
a perfectly round tube which is made from aluminum, both are exactly the
same diameter (about 2 inches), the outdoor unit is maybe 4 inches long and
the indoor unit is maybe 6 inches long. Each unit has a plastic lid on one
end with a large slot you can use ith a coin and this is where you put the
batteries (it’s almost identical to the battery cover on the Apple Wireless
Keyboard except that it’s a lot bigger. The outdoor unit takes 4 Triple A
batteries (included), the indoor unit takes 4 Double A batteries (not
included). Normally it is recommended that the indoor unit is plugged into a
power outlet, it has a micro USB port and comes with a standard USB cable
and a wall adapter, batteries are optional and meant for backup in case of a
power failure. In addition to the Micro USB port the indoor unit also has a
USB port like that on a computer which allows you to plug in the iPhone
cable.

 

Initial setup is done either by plugging your iPhone directly into the unit
while it is also plugged into a power outlet, you then open the app and can
connect the unit to your home WiFi (this is just necessary once just like
when you connect, for example, a WiFi Thermostat. You can also do this
initial setup by connecting the unit to your computer and then use a Network
Setup Wizard which you can download from the Netatmo website.

 

OK, all of this sounds very good and straight forward. However, now comes
the problem. Both the Network Wizard as well as the setup screen on the
Netatmo app are entirely graphical, neither Jaws nor Voiceover reads
anything whatsoever except for the title of the Window “Netatmo Setup
Wizard” or something like that.

 

I used the Convenient OCR feature in Jaws and was able to read the welcome
screen which basically says Thanks for buying the weather station and there
is a next button which I was able to click. Then the OCR gave me a list of
available networks and I tried to click my WiFi which was there, but I did
not get into the edit field where I could enter my password or maybe I did
and Jaws didn’t say it because when I repeated the procedure with sighted
help Jaws said nothing like “edit field” but my friend told me I could type
the password.

 

So I finally typed in my password with sighted help and was looking forward
to getting this connected to see if the app would give me information
Voiceover could read, but the Wizard then told

Re: Netatmo Indoor/Outdoor Weather Station

[Søren Jensen]

Hi Cieghard.

Your issue on connecting your weather station to your Apple router reminds me 
of one of the issues a friend of mine had a while ago:
He couldn't connect any of his computers wirelessly because his router was set 
to use IP version 6 instead IP version 4. Some Apple routers does enable IP 
version 6 as default, which some devices don't support.
YOu could try to make some research on that to see if it solve any issues.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail  MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 12/11/2012 kl. 17.18 skrev Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca:

 Hi Jorgen,
  
 Thanks a lot for posting this. I must simply have a defective unit then 
 because I have tried and tried again by myself and with sighted help and the 
 weather station just won’t connect to my WiFi. It sees the network and as 
 soon as I enter my password (which by the way I did make sure I type 
 correctly) it fails to connect.
  
 I’ll see what Netatmo has to say now that the weekend is over. I noticed 
 already in demo mode that the app seemed somewhat accessible and I appreciate 
 you telling me about the High and Low temperatures. Have you written to them 
 about making their app more accessible?
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Jørgen Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 6:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Netatmo Indoor/Outdoor Weather Station
  
 Hello Sieghard
 I have also bought a netatmo wether station.
 I have no sighted help, but Using the OCR feature in the jaws and several 
 hours of attempts, I got Netatmo weather station set up. 
 After that i can use my netatmo weatherstation on my Iphone, 
 I can read out the humidity and temperatur, as well as other measurements 
 such as weather station measures, but the interface is a little cluttered on 
 the
 iPhone with VoiceOver. It is not possible to read the graph with the highest 
 and lowest temperature.
  
 Best regards
 Jørgen
  
  
  
 Nov 11, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 
 Hello List,
  
 A couple of weeks ago I briefly mentioned that I found a weather station 
 which is designed to work with the iPhone. The company is called Netatmo and 
 their website is www.Netatmo.com for those who want to read more about it.
  
 The basic idea is that you get a wireless weather station which consists of 2 
 sensors, one for indoors and one for outdoors. The outdoor sensor connects to 
 the indoor unit and the indoor unit connects to your WiFi. You then use the 
 free Netatmo app to access the information provided by the sensors which 
 includes outdoor temperature and humidity, indoor temperature, humidity and 
 carbon monoxide levels as well as indoor and outdoor noise levels which is a 
 bit unusual for weather stations, but I guess it could be interesting if you 
 live in a big city and are curious as to how much noise there really is.
  
 Currently the station does not measure windspeed and precipitation, but I was 
 told that they are working on that and I assume this may be added later in 
 the form of additional sensors you can buy. The 2 sensor units consist of a 
 perfectly round tube which is made from aluminum, both are exactly the same 
 diameter (about 2 inches), the outdoor unit is maybe 4 inches long and the 
 indoor unit is maybe 6 inches long. Each unit has a plastic lid on one end 
 with a large slot you can use ith a coin and this is where you put the 
 batteries (it’s almost identical to the battery cover on the Apple Wireless 
 Keyboard except that it’s a lot bigger. The outdoor unit takes 4 Triple A 
 batteries (included), the indoor unit takes 4 Double A batteries (not 
 included). Normally it is recommended that the indoor unit is plugged into a 
 power outlet, it has a micro USB port and comes with a standard USB cable and 
 a wall adapter, batteries are optional and meant for backup in case of a 
 power failure. In addition to the Micro USB port the indoor unit also has a 
 USB port like that on a computer which allows you to plug in the iPhone cable.
  
 Initial setup is done either by plugging your iPhone directly into the unit 
 while it is also plugged into a power outlet, you then open the app and can 
 connect the unit to your home WiFi (this is just necessary once just like 
 when you connect, for example, a WiFi Thermostat. You can also do this 
 initial setup by connecting the unit to your computer and then use a Network 
 Setup Wizard which you can download from the Netatmo website.
  
 OK, all of this sounds very good and straight forward. However, now comes the 
 problem. Both the Network Wizard as well as the setup screen on the Netatmo 
 app are entirely graphical, neither Jaws nor Voiceover reads anything 
 whatsoever except for the title of the Window “Netatmo Setup Wizard” or 
 something like that.
  
 I used the Convenient OCR feature in Jaws and was able to read

Re: Netatmo Indoor/Outdoor Weather Station

[Jesper Holten]

Hi.
Thanks for your review. I am sorry .to hear that you have not had
success with the unit thus far. I hope you will keep us posted on ans
because I am sure there are quite a few members in the commu
developmentd accessible weather station.
Best regards, Jesper. be interested in annity who woul

On 11/11/12, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hello List,



 A couple of weeks ago I briefly mentioned that I found a weather station
 which is designed to work with the iPhone. The company is called Netatmo
 and
 their website is www.Netatmo.com for those who want to read more about it.



 The basic idea is that you get a wireless weather station which consists of
 2 sensors, one for indoors and one for outdoors. The outdoor sensor
 connects
 to the indoor unit and the indoor unit connects to your WiFi. You then use
 the free Netatmo app to access the information provided by the sensors
 which
 includes outdoor temperature and humidity, indoor temperature, humidity and
 carbon monoxide levels as well as indoor and outdoor noise levels which is
 a
 bit unusual for weather stations, but I guess it could be interesting if
 you
 live in a big city and are curious as to how much noise there really is.



 Currently the station does not measure windspeed and precipitation, but I
 was told that they are working on that and I assume this may be added later
 in the form of additional sensors you can buy. The 2 sensor units consist
 of
 a perfectly round tube which is made from aluminum, both are exactly the
 same diameter (about 2 inches), the outdoor unit is maybe 4 inches long and
 the indoor unit is maybe 6 inches long. Each unit has a plastic lid on one
 end with a large slot you can use ith a coin and this is where you put the
 batteries (it's almost identical to the battery cover on the Apple Wireless
 Keyboard except that it's a lot bigger. The outdoor unit takes 4 Triple A
 batteries (included), the indoor unit takes 4 Double A batteries (not
 included). Normally it is recommended that the indoor unit is plugged into
 a
 power outlet, it has a micro USB port and comes with a standard USB cable
 and a wall adapter, batteries are optional and meant for backup in case of
 a
 power failure. In addition to the Micro USB port the indoor unit also has a
 USB port like that on a computer which allows you to plug in the iPhone
 cable.



 Initial setup is done either by plugging your iPhone directly into the unit
 while it is also plugged into a power outlet, you then open the app and can
 connect the unit to your home WiFi (this is just necessary once just like
 when you connect, for example, a WiFi Thermostat. You can also do this
 initial setup by connecting the unit to your computer and then use a
 Network
 Setup Wizard which you can download from the Netatmo website.



 OK, all of this sounds very good and straight forward. However, now comes
 the problem. Both the Network Wizard as well as the setup screen on the
 Netatmo app are entirely graphical, neither Jaws nor Voiceover reads
 anything whatsoever except for the title of the Window Netatmo Setup
 Wizard or something like that.



 I used the Convenient OCR feature in Jaws and was able to read the welcome
 screen which basically says Thanks for buying the weather station and there
 is a next button which I was able to click. Then the OCR gave me a list of
 available networks and I tried to click my WiFi which was there, but I did
 not get into the edit field where I could enter my password or maybe I did
 and Jaws didn't say it because when I repeated the procedure with sighted
 help Jaws said nothing like edit field but my friend told me I could type
 the password.



 So I finally typed in my password with sighted help and was looking forward
 to getting this connected to see if the app would give me information
 Voiceover could read, but the Wizard then told me the station could not be
 connected to my network and to manually enter static Ip information. I
 tried
 everything I could think of and I'm not exactly a beginner when it comes to
 technology and networking, but no luck.



 I then took the unit to work and we tried to connect it to my work WiFi
 both
 using the PC wizard as well as the app always with the same result; it
 could
 not connect. I am using Apple Airport Express WiFi access points and rarely
 have a problem with other devices, my Radio Thermostats both at work and at
 home connected just fine. At this point I can only conclude that the
 particular unit I received has a faulty WiFi radio or that the product
 which
 has only been released very recently is the equivalent of the waste a male
 member of the bovine species produces. The sensors actually do have the
 feel
 and look of a very well-made product and are packed beautifully, but I
 guess
 that doesn't necessarily mean much.



 I am quite disappointed of course because I have been searching for a
 weather station that talks to my iPhone for at least a year or more and was