RE: iPad mini with thumb drives, useful for anything besides photos?

[Richard Turner]

HI Mary,

Well, on my SE 2020, the adapter works great for Voice Dream Reader for 
anything you want.  Obviously, Bookshare is easiest gotten directly.
But, if you put zipped audio files, word files, mp3 files, anything VDR will 
read, you can download them from the USB Drive by using his File Browser and 
making sure to start at the top of the structure so you have the list of 
locations rather than being in the last one you had used.  It is nice that it 
remembers though, so once you download from a thumb drive, the next time you 
select File Browser from the Add menu, you are on your thumb drive.

I've heard you can do this with BARD from Dropbox, but I have no idea.  I tried 
downloading a BARD book onto the drive, but again, it will be far easier to do 
that through the app.  Especially now that their library is on the cloud.  
Downloads are extremely fast.

I wouldn't think Audible would ever be that flexible.

Which Mini do you have now?




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 7:57 AM
To: via VIPhone ; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: iPad mini with thumb drives, useful for anything besides photos?

I am intrigued by the most recently released iPad mini, but I am not intrigued 
by the fact that the entry-level model has just 64 GB, and then you have to pay 
a whopping $150 more to get  256 GB. No 128, a blatant and obvious upsell if 
ever there was one.

I know you can access thumb drives with the Files app. But I haven't heard of 
any of the apps that we would be more likely to use, such as voice dream, 
audible, Bard mobile, Ha ha ha, actually being able to take advantage of such a 
facility. I would like to be able to download things right onto a thumb drive. 
I am pretty sure that's not possible. But I would like to be wrong. At the very 
least, if there were a way to download a bunch of stuff onto a thumb drive via 
a PC and then easily transfer that on to the iPad as necessary, that would 
work. But of course the other way would be more convenient. Does anybody have 
any experience here?
Mary

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RE: iPad mini generation six

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard yes this was rumoured a couple of months back,

The idea sounds nice and with the finger print id on the power button  like the 
air 4,

But my question is when do they release the mini with a smart folio keyboard?

That to me is one big thing missing from the mini a keyboard that works

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 15 July 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six

Please note, no official announcement I know of has come from Apple.
But, Mac Rumors, and about every other rumor mill says it will be out this fall 
with no home button, etc.
Physically about the same size though probably thinner.
If you do a web search, you will find lots of references to it.


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On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:58 PM, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
this point, but did not think it was out yet.


Matthew




On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
released yet.
The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was released 
March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.

The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.

It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that is 
very confusing.
Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12  
Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not on 
your Ipad.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
Pingstock
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six

Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
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Subject: iPad mini generation six

Good afternoon

I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
generation six Kathy

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Re: iPad mini generation six

[Pete Nalda]

Well I may not see fit to change either. Although I would like my full 512 MB 
library

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> On Jul 14, 2021, at 3:58 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
> this point, but did not think it was out yet.
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
>> If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
>> released yet.
>> The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was released 
>> March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.
>> 
>> The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.
>> 
>> It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that 
>> is very confusing.
>> Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12  
>> Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not 
>> on your Ipad.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
>> Pingstock
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six
>> 
>> Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
>> mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Kathy Pingstock
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPad mini generation six
>>> 
>>> Good afternoon
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
>>> generation six Kathy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iPad mini generation six

[Pete Nalda]

Boy!  Dunno. My iPad mini five as a home button it gets a lot of use. So what 
the screen is a little smaller?  Finally on the newer iPad they may do away 
with the headphone jack. That would really be a bummer!But since it’s not out 
will have to see what it comes with

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> On Jul 14, 2021, at 4:05 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Please note, no official announcement I know of has come from Apple.
> But, Mac Rumors, and about every other rumor mill says it will be out this 
> fall with no home button, etc.
> Physically about the same size though probably thinner.
> If you do a web search, you will find lots of references to it.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:58 PM, matthew dyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
>> this point, but did not think it was out yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
>>> If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
>>> released yet.
>>> The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was 
>>> released March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.
>>> 
>>> The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.
>>> 
>>> It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that 
>>> is very confusing.
>>> Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12 
>>>  Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not 
>>> on your Ipad.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Ce9f0f78dd3b141b6cb9d08d9470a2d40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637618931295493122%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=ioQuMXZhAT1Tm%2Bpf4mY0Oo64beBN8kzure%2Fy%2BXFNjSA%3Dreserved=0
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Kathy Pingstock
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six
>>> 
>>> Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
>>> mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Kathy Pingstock
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: iPad mini generation six
>>>> 
>>>> Good afternoon
>>>> 
>>>> I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
>>>> generation six Kathy
>>>> 
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Re: iPad mini generation six

[Richard Turner]

Please note, no official announcement I know of has come from Apple.
But, Mac Rumors, and about every other rumor mill says it will be out this fall 
with no home button, etc.
Physically about the same size though probably thinner.
If you do a web search, you will find lots of references to it.



Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:58 PM, matthew dyer  
wrote:

Hi,

Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
this point, but did not think it was out yet.


Matthew



On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
released yet.
The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was released 
March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.

The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.

It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that is 
very confusing.
Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12  
Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not on 
your Ipad.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Pingstock
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six

Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Pingstock
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini generation six

Good afternoon

I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
generation six Kathy

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iPad mini generation six

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
this point, but did not think it was out yet.


Matthew



> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
> If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
> released yet.
> The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was released 
> March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.
> 
> The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.
> 
> It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that 
> is very confusing.
> Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12  
> Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not on 
> your Ipad.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Pingstock
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six
> 
> Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
> mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
>> Pingstock
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPad mini generation six
>> 
>> Good afternoon
>> 
>> I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
>> generation six Kathy
>> 
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RE: iPad mini generation six

[Richard Turner]

Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
released yet.
The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was released 
March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.

The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.

It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that is 
very confusing.
Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12  
Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not on 
your Ipad.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Pingstock
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six

Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
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> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
> 
> 
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> generation six Kathy
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Re: iPad mini generation six

[Kathy Pingstock]

Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
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> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Pingstock
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> Good afternoon
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> generation six Kathy
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RE: iPad mini generation six

[Richard Turner]

I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?



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-Original Message-
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Pingstock
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Good afternoon

I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
generation six Kathy

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Re: iPad Mini 5

[Richard Turner]

My wife has the iPad mini 5 and loves it. I suspect since the original SE got 
iOS 14, that the mini 5 is going to be able to take iOS updates for several 
more years. My guess is at least 4 more.
But, that is a guess.



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Hi. I'm looking to upgrade my very old iPad Mini 2. I'm considering the mini 5 
from 2019 but was wondering how long you guys think Apple will keep giving it 
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RE: iPad Mini 5 Orientation?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorry I’m not sure I understand,

If you have voiceover on,
Then when you tip the iPad on to it’s side the ipad will tell you its in 
landscape with home button to side which ever.

The home button is at the bottom of the tablet,
The camera is at the top and in the centre if I remember correctly,
Power button is on the top edge, at the right hand end back slightly from the 
corner

Volume buttons are on the right hand edge, just below the top right corner of 
the tablet,
I’m sure you can feel both power on top and volume on the side,

Headphone jack is on the top edge, at left hand end of surface,
Left hand side of the tablet is the surface which smart covers manetically 
connect to
The bottom of the tablet
This bottom edge has the speakers
Lightening connecter port located.
Then you have the bck and the front.
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Hi, Group.
Can someone give me an orientation to the four-sides of iPad Mini 5, please?
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RE: iPad Mini 5 Orientation?

[Fazil]

Thanks much, Richard.

The Targas case that I have put my iPad in, has several ports openings on 
either side, I thought those ports must be used for something.

 

Thanks again!

 

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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Mini 5 Orientation?

 

Well, if you think of an iPhone, with the home button at the bottom, on the 
right side are the volume buttons, and on the top side, kind of on the back 
edge near the right side is the power, lock button. 

The earphone jack is on the top side near the left edge.  

The charging port is on the bottom edge below the home button. 

 

Richard 

 

 

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Can someone give me an orientation to the four-sides of iPad Mini 5, please?

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Re: iPad Mini 5 Orientation?

[Pete Nalda]

Should be noted this is portrait mode. It can be used in landscape mode too, 
but buttons matchup to an iPhone layout (those that had/have home buttons, 
anyway) in portrait. 

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> On Jan 24, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Well, if you think of an iPhone, with the home button at the bottom, on the 
> right side are the volume buttons, and on the top side, kind of on the back 
> edge near the right side is the power, lock button.
> The earphone jack is on the top side near the left edge.  
> The charging port is on the bottom edge below the home button. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> Software means never having to say you're finished 
> 
> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Fazil  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi, Group.
>> Can someone give me an orientation to the four-sides of iPad Mini 5, please?
>> Thanks!
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Re: iPad Mini 5 Orientation?

[Richard Turner]

Well, if you think of an iPhone, with the home button at the bottom, on the 
right side are the volume buttons, and on the top side, kind of on the back 
edge near the right side is the power, lock button.
The earphone jack is on the top side near the left edge.
The charging port is on the bottom edge below the home button.


Richard


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On Jan 24, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Fazil  wrote:


Hi, Group.
Can someone give me an orientation to the four-sides of iPad Mini 5, please?
Thanks!


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RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

[Simon A Fogarty]

A folio keyboard is a case that folds around your iPad and has a keyboard in 
the front half
Your iPad stands up on a slight angle and lets you type like on a notebook 
computer

If you’re not worried about screen size then go for the iPad mini,

It’s only a year older and should I would think be cheaper than the air.

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Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 11:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

I am totally blind and I am not worried about screen size and I don’t know 
anything about folio keyboard.
Thanks!


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

Hi Fazil

It really depends on what your doing and whether you need the larger screen 
size?

Otherwise you don’t I believe have the home button on the air,
But you do have a finger id sensor on the power button which is of course on 
the top,
You can get a smart folio keyboard with / for the air but no keyboard from 
apple for the mini 5.

The processor of course is newer in the air
And the screen I believe is better,

But your bigg thing is the size, so would you want the larger 10.? Screen size 
or the 7.9 inch screen size,

And that other question is what’s your budget?

I will also say I’ve got a 2018 11inch iPad Pro with smart folio keyboard
Cellular & wifi
256gb
Which is in excellent condition

And a iPad Mini 5
Cellular and wifi
256GB
Again in excellent condition,
Both space grey,

That I’m looking to sell,

May be  we could discuss things if you were interested.

Simon f

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 3:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

Hi, Group.
Please help me decide.
I am in the market to purchase an iPad 256GB. Now I am debating between iPad 
Mini or iPad Air 2020.
It is $240 difference between these two. I like the size of iPad Mini.
Being a totally blind user, would I be missing something in iPad Mini which is 
available in iPad Air?
I am not worried about A14 Bionic chip in iPad Air.
Anything important that I should go for iPad Air, not for iPad Mini?
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks!

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RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

[Fazil]

I am totally blind and I am not worried about screen size and I don’t know 
anything about folio keyboard.

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

 

Hi Fazil

 

It really depends on what your doing and whether you need the larger screen 
size?

 

Otherwise you don’t I believe have the home button on the air,

But you do have a finger id sensor on the power button which is of course on 
the top,

You can get a smart folio keyboard with / for the air but no keyboard from 
apple for the mini 5.

 

The processor of course is newer in the air 

And the screen I believe is better,

 

But your bigg thing is the size, so would you want the larger 10.? Screen size 
or the 7.9 inch screen size,

 

And that other question is what’s your budget?

 

I will also say I’ve got a 2018 11inch iPad Pro with smart folio keyboard 

Cellular & wifi

256gb

Which is in excellent condition 

 

And a iPad Mini 5 

Cellular and wifi 

256GB

Again in excellent condition,

Both space grey,

 

That I’m looking to sell,

 

May be  we could discuss things if you were interested.

 

Simon f

 

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Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 3:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

 

Hi, Group.

Please help me decide.

I am in the market to purchase an iPad 256GB. Now I am debating between iPad 
Mini or iPad Air 2020.

It is $240 difference between these two. I like the size of iPad Mini.

Being a totally blind user, would I be missing something in iPad Mini which is 
available in iPad Air?

I am not worried about A14 Bionic chip in iPad Air.

Anything important that I should go for iPad Air, not for iPad Mini?

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Fazil

It really depends on what your doing and whether you need the larger screen 
size?

Otherwise you don’t I believe have the home button on the air,
But you do have a finger id sensor on the power button which is of course on 
the top,
You can get a smart folio keyboard with / for the air but no keyboard from 
apple for the mini 5.

The processor of course is newer in the air
And the screen I believe is better,

But your bigg thing is the size, so would you want the larger 10.? Screen size 
or the 7.9 inch screen size,

And that other question is what’s your budget?

I will also say I’ve got a 2018 11inch iPad Pro with smart folio keyboard
Cellular & wifi
256gb
Which is in excellent condition

And a iPad Mini 5
Cellular and wifi
256GB
Again in excellent condition,
Both space grey,

That I’m looking to sell,

May be  we could discuss things if you were interested.

Simon f

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 3:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

Hi, Group.
Please help me decide.
I am in the market to purchase an iPad 256GB. Now I am debating between iPad 
Mini or iPad Air 2020.
It is $240 difference between these two. I like the size of iPad Mini.
Being a totally blind user, would I be missing something in iPad Mini which is 
available in iPad Air?
I am not worried about A14 Bionic chip in iPad Air.
Anything important that I should go for iPad Air, not for iPad Mini?
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks!

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RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but ....

[Fanus Buys]

Thanks, I shall enquire. In settings I could change the measurement unit to 
KBPS.
Regards
Fanus


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 5:16 PM
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Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

That is an OK speed, if you continue to experience issues with downloading apps 
of any sort your provider must be blocking something and as I said before, you 
should ask them why this doesn't work when you are on your WiFi and why it 
worked instantly when you were connected to the WiFi at the store where you 
bought the iPad.


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Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello Sieghard
Thanks, I downloaded SpeedTest on my iPhone. It is interesting that the app 
gives the result in mega bits. I am used to kilo bytes and mega bytes. My 
result shows download speed = 12.3 mega bits which, if I am not mistaken, is 
1.53 mega bytes per second. In foreign countries this might be slow but here in 
SA a speed of 900 kbps or more is quite fast over a cell network. I use 
Internet Download Manager to download large files and it seldom shows more than 
900 KBPS, so this result of 1.53 MBPS is quite fast here. Or am I wrong with my 
calculation?
Regards
Fanus


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hi Fanus,

You should take this up with your provider. Also I would recommend you do a 
Speedtest, either go to www.speedtest.net on your PC or, on your iPad Mini or 
iPhone download the Speedtest by Ookla app.
My Mom's WiFi is also from a smarthub via the cellular network and she has no 
problems downloading anything.

-Original Message-
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Buys
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello list
I managed to get a lift back to the iStore and guess what, the moment the 
assistant connected my Ipad mini 5 to their wifi all the native apps downloaded 
and installed. Now remember, with my wifi I could download third party apps 
like Audible, Kindle etc. and on my pc I can serve the net, download stuff and 
read new emails. So the funny thing: what setting or hardware aspect of my 
cellular wifi router prevents the native apps on the iPad to download and 
install. The guy at the iStore had no idea. Can one of the experts on the list 
think of a reason. I would like to know so that I can change my wifi settings 
or at least advise future users just to try a different network. I did insert 
the sim card into another router so the network provider is the same but the 
problem stayed. Well, at least my trip to the iStore was worth while so that I 
can now use my Ipad mini 5.
Regards and thanks for all the suggestions and assistance offered.
Fanus


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RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but ....

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is an OK speed, if you continue to experience issues with downloading apps 
of any sort your provider must be blocking something and as I said before, you 
should ask them why this doesn't work when you are on your WiFi and why it 
worked instantly when you were connected to the WiFi at the store where you 
bought the iPad.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello Sieghard
Thanks, I downloaded SpeedTest on my iPhone. It is interesting that the app 
gives the result in mega bits. I am used to kilo bytes and mega bytes. My 
result shows download speed = 12.3 mega bits which, if I am not mistaken, is 
1.53 mega bytes per second. In foreign countries this might be slow but here in 
SA a speed of 900 kbps or more is quite fast over a cell network. I use 
Internet Download Manager to download large files and it seldom shows more than 
900 KBPS, so this result of 1.53 MBPS is quite fast here. Or am I wrong with my 
calculation?
Regards
Fanus


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hi Fanus,

You should take this up with your provider. Also I would recommend you do a 
Speedtest, either go to www.speedtest.net on your PC or, on your iPad Mini or 
iPhone download the Speedtest by Ookla app.
My Mom's WiFi is also from a smarthub via the cellular network and she has no 
problems downloading anything.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello list
I managed to get a lift back to the iStore and guess what, the moment the 
assistant connected my Ipad mini 5 to their wifi all the native apps downloaded 
and installed. Now remember, with my wifi I could download third party apps 
like Audible, Kindle etc. and on my pc I can serve the net, download stuff and 
read new emails. So the funny thing: what setting or hardware aspect of my 
cellular wifi router prevents the native apps on the iPad to download and 
install. The guy at the iStore had no idea. Can one of the experts on the list 
think of a reason. I would like to know so that I can change my wifi settings 
or at least advise future users just to try a different network. I did insert 
the sim card into another router so the network provider is the same but the 
problem stayed. Well, at least my trip to the iStore was worth while so that I 
can now use my Ipad mini 5.
Regards and thanks for all the suggestions and assistance offered.
Fanus


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RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but ....

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard
Thanks, I downloaded SpeedTest on my iPhone. It is interesting that the app 
gives the result in mega bits. I am used to kilo bytes and mega bytes. My 
result shows download speed = 12.3 mega bits which, if I am not mistaken, is 
1.53 mega bytes per second. In foreign countries this might be slow but here in 
SA a speed of 900 kbps or more is quite fast over a cell network. I use 
Internet Download Manager to download large files and it seldom shows more than 
900 KBPS, so this result of 1.53 MBPS is quite fast here. Or am I wrong with my 
calculation?
Regards
Fanus


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hi Fanus,

You should take this up with your provider. Also I would recommend you do a 
Speedtest, either go to www.speedtest.net on your PC or, on your iPad Mini or 
iPhone download the Speedtest by Ookla app.
My Mom's WiFi is also from a smarthub via the cellular network and she has no 
problems downloading anything.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello list
I managed to get a lift back to the iStore and guess what, the moment the 
assistant connected my Ipad mini 5 to their wifi all the native apps downloaded 
and installed. Now remember, with my wifi I could download third party apps 
like Audible, Kindle etc. and on my pc I can serve the net, download stuff and 
read new emails. So the funny thing: what setting or hardware aspect of my 
cellular wifi router prevents the native apps on the iPad to download and 
install. The guy at the iStore had no idea. Can one of the experts on the list 
think of a reason. I would like to know so that I can change my wifi settings 
or at least advise future users just to try a different network. I did insert 
the sim card into another router so the network provider is the same but the 
problem stayed. Well, at least my trip to the iStore was worth while so that I 
can now use my Ipad mini 5.
Regards and thanks for all the suggestions and assistance offered.
Fanus


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RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but ....

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Fanus,

You should take this up with your provider. Also I would recommend you do a 
Speedtest, either go to www.speedtest.net on your PC or, on your iPad Mini or 
iPhone download the Speedtest by Ookla app.
My Mom's WiFi is also from a smarthub via the cellular network and she has no 
problems downloading anything.

-Original Message-
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Buys
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello list
I managed to get a lift back to the iStore and guess what, the moment the 
assistant connected my Ipad mini 5 to their wifi all the native apps downloaded 
and installed. Now remember, with my wifi I could download third party apps 
like Audible, Kindle etc. and on my pc I can serve the net, download stuff and 
read new emails. So the funny thing: what setting or hardware aspect of my 
cellular wifi router prevents the native apps on the iPad to download and 
install. The guy at the iStore had no idea. Can one of the experts on the list 
think of a reason. I would like to know so that I can change my wifi settings 
or at least advise future users just to try a different network. I did insert 
the sim card into another router so the network provider is the same but the 
problem stayed. Well, at least my trip to the iStore was worth while so that I 
can now use my Ipad mini 5.
Regards and thanks for all the suggestions and assistance offered.
Fanus


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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Fanus,

As Richard pointed out, it is always possible that your unit is somehow 
defective. I don’t think it happens often, but it’s not entirely impossible, 
either.
As for calling Apple Accessibility in the US, if you have Skype you can call US 
toll free numbers for free, the only cost you have is for the data usage.
I know you said before your WiFi is expensive, not sure if you get WiFi from a 
smart hub which uses cellular data, but people have to realize that not 
everybody lives in the US, Canada, Australia, new Zealand or most European 
countries where having a good and  for the most part unlimited WiFi connection 
is taken for granted.
Even in Canada this may not be the case if you live in a remote or rural area. 
My family, for example, have a cattle ranch in northeastern British Columbia. 
The closest town where you find any decent shopping such as a few super 
markets, hardware stores, office supply stores etc. is 130 Km away (that’s 80 
mile sfor those in the US) and that is one-way. With winter driving conditions 
that can be an almost 2 hour trip and while there is reasonably good cell phone 
coverage at the ranch, the only internet they can get is either by satellite 
with a company called XploreNet or by using a smart hub which connects to the 
cellular network (usually it’s slow LTE, but sometimes it drops down to 3G) and 
the plan my Mom has, for example, gives her 3 Gb for $45, if she is over 3 Gb 
and below 5 Gb it goes to $55, between 5 and 10 Gb it goes to $75 and if it’s 
over 10 GB it gets really expensive. If she has an iOS update and a Windows 
update in 1 month that can easily be 5 Gb right there without any regular 
usage. This means things like Netflix or streaming music are not even worse 
considering and she limits checking things out on YouTube to the absolutely 
necessary. She also has 6 Gb on her iPhone plan and mostly she doesn’t even 
have it connected to her WiFi because it’s the same cellular network anyways 
and at least this way she can mostly keep her smart hub data for use with her 
computer and things like app updates are done via cellular data. Now that Apple 
has made it possible to download even larger apps via cellular data that is a 
good thing for her.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Richard
Thanks a lot. I searched for a local number but the number I found suggests 
that I book an appointment so I could not talk to someone, so thanks, I shall 
try the number you supplied.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Fanus,
I just sent a note to the list with Apple support numbers around the world, 
Here is the one for South Africa in case you don’t already have it.  It doesn’t 
say Accessibility support specifically. South Africa
0800 444 426

HTH,

Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Brian
Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to make a plan to get to the iStore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus

From:

RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Thanks a lot. I searched for a local number but the number I found suggests 
that I book an appointment so I could not talk to someone, so thanks, I shall 
try the number you supplied.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Fanus,

I just sent a note to the list with Apple support numbers around the world, 
Here is the one for South Africa in case you don’t already have it.  It doesn’t 
say Accessibility support specifically. South Africa

0800 444 426

 

HTH,

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Hello Brian

Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to make a plan to get to the iStore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Dear Famus & List:

Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Hello Richard

Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.

Regards

Fanus

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Are you sure your wifi connection is good? 

This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.

Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.

I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus

 

 

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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Richard Turner]

Right about web pages, but again, that has nothing to do with downloading apps 
from the app store.
That is a closed system.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brian K. 
Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Richard & List:
Thank you for correcting my memory error!
The web site can connect you to the mobile or desktop page, despite you 
specifying the page you want. True, this should not affect the downloading of 
files.
Famous: the 888, 877, 866, 855, 844, 833 and 822 area codes are also for 
toll-free numbers. It is rather funny that firms use toll-free numbers to 
contact them. Most cellular airtime plans provide national free long-distance 
calling, often unlimited. Long distance from a landline is also quite cheap, in 
Canada, $35 a month gets you unlimited calling to Canada and the USA or to most 
countries in Europe. However, we pay a fortune to call Caribbean nations. There 
are no similar cheap packages to Africa, Asia, Australia, or Oceania. Or 
Antarctica for that matter.
Sincerely,
Brian K. Lingard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

First, Apple Accessibility is 877-204-3930, not 800.  At least the US number is 
877.

My wife got an iPad Mini 5 in June and has never had this problem.
It is either a bad unit, or a connection problem.
I don’t see what web sites treatment of the device has anything to do with 
downloading of apps in the app store.

Richard

 Live long and prosper

Check out my web site at: 
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brian 
K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Are you sure your wifi connection is good?
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus

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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Brian K. Lingard]

Dear Richard & List:
Thank you for correcting my memory error!
The web site can connect you to the mobile or desktop page, despite you 
specifying the page you want. True, this should not affect the downloading of 
files.
Famous: the 888, 877, 866, 855, 844, 833 and 822 area codes are also for 
toll-free numbers. It is rather funny that firms use toll-free numbers to 
contact them. Most cellular airtime plans provide national free long-distance 
calling, often unlimited. Long distance from a landline is also quite cheap, in 
Canada, $35 a month gets you unlimited calling to Canada and the USA or to most 
countries in Europe. However, we pay a fortune to call Caribbean nations. There 
are no similar cheap packages to Africa, Asia, Australia, or Oceania. Or 
Antarctica for that matter.
Sincerely,
Brian K. Lingard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
First, Apple Accessibility is 877-204-3930, not 800.  At least the US number is 
877.
 
My wife got an iPad Mini 5 in June and has never had this problem.
It is either a bad unit, or a connection problem.
I don’t see what web sites treatment of the device has anything to do with 
downloading of apps in the app store.
 
Richard
 
 Live long and prosper
 
Check out my web site at:  <http://www.turner42.com/> www.turner42.com
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf of 
Fanus Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Are you sure your wifi connection is good? 
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.
 
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus
 
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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Richard Turner]

Yes, 800 is one of the many toll free prefixes.  888, 877, 866, 855, 844, are 
also toll free prefixes.
Apple uses 877 for their accessibility support, while Microsoft uses 800 for 
their accessibility support.

If you want some history on toll free numbers, check out:
https://www.messagingservice.com/toll-free-numbers-guide/


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brian K. 
Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Famus & List:

Try sending e-mail to supp...@apple.com<mailto:supp...@apple.com> or 
accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>. Apple may be willing 
to telephone you from the U. S. A. It is worth trying, may save you an 
inconvenient and expensive Safari to the Apple store.

Area code 800 in the USA/Canada is for toll-free numbers. however, they usually 
do not work from other countries. There is an 800-country code, presumably for 
toll-free numbers which work from several countries or worldwide. I do not know 
of any such numbers.


The staff in the tuck shop in my former apartment building in Scarborough in 
the east of Toronto used to try teaching me Swahili, their native language.

Sincerely,



Brian K. . Lingard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Brian
Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to plan to get to the instore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.
Regards
Fanus
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Are you sure your wifi connection is good?
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus

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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Brian K. Lingard]

Dear Famus & List:
 
Try sending e-mail to supp...@apple.com <mailto:supp...@apple.com>  or 
accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> . Apple may be willing 
to telephone you from the U. S. A. It is worth trying, may save you an 
inconvenient and expensive Safari to the Apple store.
 
Area code 800 in the USA/Canada is for toll-free numbers. however, they usually 
do not work from other countries. There is an 800-country code, presumably for 
toll-free numbers which work from several countries or worldwide. I do not know 
of any such numbers.
 
The staff in the tuck shop in my former apartment building in Scarborough in 
the east of Toronto used to try teaching me Swahili, their native language. 
Sincerely,
 
Brian K. . Lingard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Hello Brian
Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to plan to get to the instore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.
Regards
Fanus
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf of 
Fanus Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Are you sure your wifi connection is good? 
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.
 
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus
 

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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Richard Turner]

Fanus,
I just sent a note to the list with Apple support numbers around the world, 
Here is the one for South Africa in case you don’t already have it.  It doesn’t 
say Accessibility support specifically. South Africa
0800 444 426

HTH,

Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Brian
Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to make a plan to get to the iStore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Are you sure your wifi connection is good?
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus


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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Brian

Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to make a plan to get to the iStore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Dear Famus & List:

Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Hello Richard

Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.

Regards

Fanus

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Are you sure your wifi connection is good? 

This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.

Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.

I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus

 





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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Richard Turner]

First, Apple Accessibility is 877-204-3930, not 800.  At least the US number is 
877.

My wife got an iPad Mini 5 in June and has never had this problem.
It is either a bad unit, or a connection problem.
I don’t see what web sites treatment of the device has anything to do with 
downloading of apps in the app store.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Are you sure your wifi connection is good?
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys 
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Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus



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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Brian K. Lingard]

Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus
 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Are you sure your wifi connection is good? 
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.
 
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
 
On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus
 



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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Terri
That was one of the options which I tried but I still have the same problem. I 
have just deleted the facetime app and then I opened the app store and searched 
for facetime. I double tapped on the redownload button and got the same message 
"unable to download, try again later". It is the first time in ten years that I 
encounter problems with an iDevice, so this is a huge disappointment.
Regards
Fanus



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Terri Hedgpeth
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Fanus,
You might try the following:
Do another reset on the new iPad,
Next, for setting it up, try to initiate set up using your other iDevice 
(iPhone or iPad),
First initiate setup on the new device, and you should be prompted to choose 
how you want to do the set up. Also you may be asked if you want to use another 
iDevice to set up this iPad.
Bring the two devices together and follow the prompts. This does a direct 
transfer without using the cloud. I recently set up my new phone from the cloud 
and lost a few of my apps including the money identifier app.
Best,
Terri

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Buys
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Subject: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5 
only a few apps open. When highliting some apps voiceovr says "loading" and 
some say "waiting" but when I double tap I get the message that I must try 
later. I am not near the iStore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone 
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I tried 
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Regards
Fanus


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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I downloadd do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Are you sure your wifi connection is good? 

This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.

Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.

I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

 

 

 

Richard

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-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





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I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highliting some apps voiceovr says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the iStore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus


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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Terri Hedgpeth]

Hello Fanus,
You might try the following:
Do another reset on the new iPad,
Next, for setting it up, try to initiate set up using your other iDevice 
(iPhone or iPad),
First initiate setup on the new device, and you should be prompted to choose 
how you want to do the set up. Also you may be asked if you want to use another 
iDevice to set up this iPad.
Bring the two devices together and follow the prompts. This does a direct 
transfer without using the cloud. I recently set up my new phone from the cloud 
and lost a few of my apps including the money identifier app.
Best,
Terri

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Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5 
only a few apps open. When highliting some apps voiceovr says "loading" and 
some say "waiting" but when I double tap I get the message that I must try 
later. I am not near the iStore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone 
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I tried 
to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus


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Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Richard Turner]

Are you sure your wifi connection is good?
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.




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On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highliting some apps voiceovr says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the iStore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
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RE: iPad mini 5: what does this mean

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Keith & Sieghard

What worries mee is that some apps say “double tap to open” but nothing happens 
when I double tap. My iPad is connected to wifi and after 24 hours some apps 
still say “downloading 1 percent”. Even Read To Go which I downloaded from the 
app store does not open when I double tap on it.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Keith Bierman
Sent: Monday, 06 January 2020 23:13
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad mini 5: what does this mean

 

I found a fair number of older applications no longer exist, so other than 
restoring from a local backup those applications are lost. But I agree with 
Sieghard's analysis of your error message. But if you see #application_name 
needs to be updated. This app needs to be updated y the developer to work on 
this version of iPadOS"  then you've fallen into my use-case ;>

 

Keith Bierman
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303 997 2749

 

 

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:03 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

That means these apps are waiting to download/install or are in the process of 
installing from the App Store.

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Buys
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 10:54 PM
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Subject: iPad mini 5: what does this mean

Hello list
I got an iPad mini 5 and after the setup all the apps from my iPhone show on 
various pages but I am not sure what some explanations mean. For example, the 
Audio Bible icon says "audio Bible waiting, double tap to open" but when I 
double tap nothing happens. The audio memos icon says "audio memos loading in 
iCloud, double tap to download" but when I double tap nothing happens.
Other apps start to download but no progress after 1 percent. On my pc with the 
same wifi network I can download emails and other files. Can someone please 
explain?
Regards
Fanus


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Re: iPad mini 5: what does this mean

[Keith Bierman]

I found a fair number of older applications no longer exist, so other than
restoring from a local backup those applications are lost. But I agree with
Sieghard's analysis of your error message. But if you see #application_name
needs to be updated. This app needs to be updated y the developer to work
on this version of iPadOS"  then you've fallen into my use-case ;>

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On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:03 AM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> That means these apps are waiting to download/install or are in the
> process of installing from the App Store.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Fanus Buys
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 10:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPad mini 5: what does this mean
>
> Hello list
> I got an iPad mini 5 and after the setup all the apps from my iPhone show
> on various pages but I am not sure what some explanations mean. For
> example, the Audio Bible icon says "audio Bible waiting, double tap to
> open" but when I double tap nothing happens. The audio memos icon says
> "audio memos loading in iCloud, double tap to download" but when I double
> tap nothing happens.
> Other apps start to download but no progress after 1 percent. On my pc
> with the same wifi network I can download emails and other files. Can
> someone please explain?
> Regards
> Fanus
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RE: iPad mini 5: what does this mean

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That means these apps are waiting to download/install or are in the process of 
installing from the App Store.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini 5: what does this mean

Hello list
I got an iPad mini 5 and after the setup all the apps from my iPhone show on 
various pages but I am not sure what some explanations mean. For example, the 
Audio Bible icon says "audio Bible waiting, double tap to open" but when I 
double tap nothing happens. The audio memos icon says "audio memos loading in 
iCloud, double tap to download" but when I double tap nothing happens.
Other apps start to download but no progress after 1 percent. On my pc with the 
same wifi network I can download emails and other files. Can someone please 
explain?
Regards
Fanus
 

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Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

[Vicki W.]

Any recommendations for a screen protector?


- Original Message - 
From: "Russ Kiehne" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?


I'll probably order one next month along with a otterbox case for it.

-Original Message- 
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone

Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

Mine's on order, but not available before April. 64G and silver is good
enough. This is uK, same amount in £ as $s.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Russ Kiehne" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?


I'm very tempted to get the 256 gb version.  I listen to a lot of old time
radio and it takes up a lot of space.

I'm wondering if the current otterbox defender case for the ipad mini 4 will
work with the new ipad mini 4?

-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

Hi folks,
I found today’s announcement of a new iPad mini interesting. I had a really
old one, which was painfully slow. And when they made iOS 12, I was
surprised that my old iPad mini was eligible for the upgrade. Well iOS 12
did slightly seem to improve the performance of that tablet, what drove me
crazy was the introduction of the new jesters where you can slide up from
the bottom to get the app switcher or the home screen. Since the iPad had
the home button, I thought introducing those jesters to my old iPad was a
bad idea. And they didn’t do it with the phone, my iPhone 7 is still
blessedly free of those gestures which it does not need. Introduction of
those jesters was the straw that broke the camels back. My iPad mini is now
gone. I don’t know if having a faster processor would make it more
responsive or whatever. I like the form factor. But the iPad has big
vessels, and when you get your finger in the area where those jesters take
effect, whether it’s the top or the bottom, it’s kind of an issue, at least
it was for me. So I’m wondering if folks currently using iPads are having
the same issue I did with moving your finger around the screen being
interfered with by the presence of these gestures. And who plans to buy an
iPad mini? Why or why not?

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Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

[Russ Kiehne]

I'll probably order one next month along with a otterbox case for it.

-Original Message- 
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone

Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

Mine's on order, but not available before April. 64G and silver is good 
enough. This is uK, same amount in £ as $s.


RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Russ Kiehne" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?


I'm very tempted to get the 256 gb version.  I listen to a lot of old time
radio and it takes up a lot of space.

I'm wondering if the current otterbox defender case for the ipad mini 4 will
work with the new ipad mini 4?

-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

Hi folks,
I found today’s announcement of a new iPad mini interesting. I had a really
old one, which was painfully slow. And when they made iOS 12, I was
surprised that my old iPad mini was eligible for the upgrade. Well iOS 12
did slightly seem to improve the performance of that tablet, what drove me
crazy was the introduction of the new jesters where you can slide up from
the bottom to get the app switcher or the home screen. Since the iPad had
the home button, I thought introducing those jesters to my old iPad was a
bad idea. And they didn’t do it with the phone, my iPhone 7 is still
blessedly free of those gestures which it does not need. Introduction of
those jesters was the straw that broke the camels back. My iPad mini is now
gone. I don’t know if having a faster processor would make it more
responsive or whatever. I like the form factor. But the iPad has big
vessels, and when you get your finger in the area where those jesters take
effect, whether it’s the top or the bottom, it’s kind of an issue, at least
it was for me. So I’m wondering if folks currently using iPads are having
the same issue I did with moving your finger around the screen being
interfered with by the presence of these gestures. And who plans to buy an
iPad mini? Why or why not?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

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Mine's on order, but not available before April. 64G and silver is good enough. 
This is uK, same amount in £ as $s.

RobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Russ Kiehne" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?


I'm very tempted to get the 256 gb version.  I listen to a lot of old time
radio and it takes up a lot of space.

I'm wondering if the current otterbox defender case for the ipad mini 4 will
work with the new ipad mini 4?

-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

Hi folks,
I found today’s announcement of a new iPad mini interesting. I had a really
old one, which was painfully slow. And when they made iOS 12, I was
surprised that my old iPad mini was eligible for the upgrade. Well iOS 12
did slightly seem to improve the performance of that tablet, what drove me
crazy was the introduction of the new jesters where you can slide up from
the bottom to get the app switcher or the home screen. Since the iPad had
the home button, I thought introducing those jesters to my old iPad was a
bad idea. And they didn’t do it with the phone, my iPhone 7 is still
blessedly free of those gestures which it does not need. Introduction of
those jesters was the straw that broke the camels back. My iPad mini is now
gone. I don’t know if having a faster processor would make it more
responsive or whatever. I like the form factor. But the iPad has big
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Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

[Russ Kiehne]

I'm very tempted to get the 256 gb version.  I listen to a lot of old time 
radio and it takes up a lot of space.


I'm wondering if the current otterbox defender case for the ipad mini 4 will 
work with the new ipad mini 4?


-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

Hi folks,
I found today’s announcement of a new iPad mini interesting. I had a really 
old one, which was painfully slow. And when they made iOS 12, I was 
surprised that my old iPad mini was eligible for the upgrade. Well iOS 12 
did slightly seem to improve the performance of that tablet, what drove me 
crazy was the introduction of the new jesters where you can slide up from 
the bottom to get the app switcher or the home screen. Since the iPad had 
the home button, I thought introducing those jesters to my old iPad was a 
bad idea. And they didn’t do it with the phone, my iPhone 7 is still 
blessedly free of those gestures which it does not need. Introduction of 
those jesters was the straw that broke the camels back. My iPad mini is now 
gone. I don’t know if having a faster processor would make it more 
responsive or whatever. I like the form factor. But the iPad has big 
vessels, and when you get your finger in the area where those jesters take 
effect, whether it’s the top or the bottom, it’s kind of an issue, at least 
it was for me. So I’m wondering if folks currently using iPads are having 
the same issue I did with moving your finger around the screen being 
interfered with by the presence of these gestures. And who plans to buy an 
iPad mini? Why or why not?


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Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

I did have some confusion with the new sjustures
adrian Leong
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> On Mar 18, 2019, at 7:09 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Assuming that you still have your old one and upgraded to the latest iOS, did 
> you encounter difficulty when touching the screen having the new jesters sort 
> of take over and interfere with your exploration?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 18, 2019, at 5:53 PM, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I wil be geting one.i wil be geting one because I have a second generation 
>> and it is a 32 gig one. It is time for a upgrade.I wil be geting the 64 gig 
>> one.
>> adrian Leong
>> adrianleon...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 6:48 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I found today’s announcement of a new iPad mini interesting. I had a really 
>>> old one, which was painfully slow. And when they made iOS 12, I was 
>>> surprised that my old iPad mini was eligible for the upgrade. Well iOS 12 
>>> did slightly seem to improve the performance of that tablet, what drove me 
>>> crazy was the introduction of the new jesters where you can slide up from 
>>> the bottom to get the app switcher or the home screen. Since the iPad had 
>>> the home button, I thought introducing those jesters to my old iPad was a 
>>> bad idea. And they didn’t do it with the phone, my iPhone 7 is still 
>>> blessedly free of those gestures which it does not need. Introduction of 
>>> those jesters was the straw that broke the camels back. My iPad mini is now 
>>> gone. I don’t know if having a faster processor would make it more 
>>> responsive or whatever. I like the form factor. But the iPad has big 
>>> vessels, and when you get your finger in the area where those jesters take 
>>> effect, whether it’s the top or the bottom, it’s kind of an issue, at least 
>>> it was for me. So I’m wondering if folks currently using iPads are having 
>>> the same issue I did with moving your finger around the screen being 
>>> interfered with by the presence of these gestures. And who plans to buy an 
>>> iPad mini? Why or why not?
>>> 
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Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

[Mary Otten]

Assuming that you still have your old one and upgraded to the latest iOS, did 
you encounter difficulty when touching the screen having the new jesters sort 
of take over and interfere with your exploration?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 18, 2019, at 5:53 PM, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wil be geting one.i wil be geting one because I have a second generation 
> and it is a 32 gig one. It is time for a upgrade.I wil be geting the 64 gig 
> one.
> adrian Leong
> adrianleon...@icloud.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 18, 2019, at 6:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I found today’s announcement of a new iPad mini interesting. I had a really 
>> old one, which was painfully slow. And when they made iOS 12, I was 
>> surprised that my old iPad mini was eligible for the upgrade. Well iOS 12 
>> did slightly seem to improve the performance of that tablet, what drove me 
>> crazy was the introduction of the new jesters where you can slide up from 
>> the bottom to get the app switcher or the home screen. Since the iPad had 
>> the home button, I thought introducing those jesters to my old iPad was a 
>> bad idea. And they didn’t do it with the phone, my iPhone 7 is still 
>> blessedly free of those gestures which it does not need. Introduction of 
>> those jesters was the straw that broke the camels back. My iPad mini is now 
>> gone. I don’t know if having a faster processor would make it more 
>> responsive or whatever. I like the form factor. But the iPad has big 
>> vessels, and when you get your finger in the area where those jesters take 
>> effect, whether it’s the top or the bottom, it’s kind of an issue, at least 
>> it was for me. So I’m wondering if folks currently using iPads are having 
>> the same issue I did with moving your finger around the screen being 
>> interfered with by the presence of these gestures. And who plans to buy an 
>> iPad mini? Why or why not?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iPad mini, are you going to buy one?

['wui chin Leong' via VIPhone]

I wil be geting one.i wil be geting one because I have a second generation and 
it is a 32 gig one. It is time for a upgrade.I wil be geting the 64 gig one.
adrian Leong
adrianleon...@icloud.com



> On Mar 18, 2019, at 6:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> I found today’s announcement of a new iPad mini interesting. I had a really 
> old one, which was painfully slow. And when they made iOS 12, I was surprised 
> that my old iPad mini was eligible for the upgrade. Well iOS 12 did slightly 
> seem to improve the performance of that tablet, what drove me crazy was the 
> introduction of the new jesters where you can slide up from the bottom to get 
> the app switcher or the home screen. Since the iPad had the home button, I 
> thought introducing those jesters to my old iPad was a bad idea. And they 
> didn’t do it with the phone, my iPhone 7 is still blessedly free of those 
> gestures which it does not need. Introduction of those jesters was the straw 
> that broke the camels back. My iPad mini is now gone. I don’t know if having 
> a faster processor would make it more responsive or whatever. I like the form 
> factor. But the iPad has big vessels, and when you get your finger in the 
> area where those jesters take effect, whether it’s the top or the bottom, 
> it’s kind of an issue, at least it was for me. So I’m wondering if folks 
> currently using iPads are having the same issue I did with moving your finger 
> around the screen being interfered with by the presence of these gestures. 
> And who plans to buy an iPad mini? Why or why not?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iPad mini

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, sorry, those storage options are not new, but the 32 GB is now the 
baseline and not the 16 GB which has been discontinued. The 64 GB storage 
option is also discontinued hence the only two storage options now, 32 GB 
(baseline) and 128 GB.
> On 3 Aug 2017, at 19:29, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> the 128 gb 6th generation came out when the 6 came out, so it isn't new. 
> Unless, they have released a 256 without making a fuss.
> I bought the 128 iPod 6 when it first came out.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, yes there are now just 32 GB and 128 GB iPod Touch  models available, 
>> no news on iPad Mini but my prediction is they will go away as the entry 
>> level 9.7 inch iPad gains popularity.
>>> On 3 Aug 2017, at 15:59, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm pretty sure I heard that larger-capacity iPod touches were just 
>>> released. I don't think they're upgraded in other ways, though.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 3, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 Nothing has been mentioned by Apple or any of the rumor mills.
 
 
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Re: iPad mini

[Richard Turner]

the 128 gb 6th generation came out when the 6 came out, so it isn't new. 
Unless, they have released a 256 without making a fuss.
I bought the 128 iPod 6 when it first came out.
Richard


> On Aug 3, 2017, at 11:07 AM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello, yes there are now just 32 GB and 128 GB iPod Touch  models available, 
> no news on iPad Mini but my prediction is they will go away as the entry 
> level 9.7 inch iPad gains popularity.
>> On 3 Aug 2017, at 15:59, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure I heard that larger-capacity iPod touches were just 
>> released. I don't think they're upgraded in other ways, though.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nothing has been mentioned by Apple or any of the rumor mills.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Does anyone know if there is a new iPad mini or iPod touch in the pipeline?
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Re: iPad mini

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, yes there are now just 32 GB and 128 GB iPod Touch  models available, no 
news on iPad Mini but my prediction is they will go away as the entry level 9.7 
inch iPad gains popularity.
> On 3 Aug 2017, at 15:59, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> I'm pretty sure I heard that larger-capacity iPod touches were just released. 
> I don't think they're upgraded in other ways, though.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
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Re: iPad mini

[Woody Anna Dresner]

I'm pretty sure I heard that larger-capacity iPod touches were just released. I 
don't think they're upgraded in other ways, though.

Best,
Anna



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RE: iPad mini

[Richard Turner]

Nothing has been mentioned by Apple or any of the rumor mills.


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Hello list
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Appleman]

Hi Helga,
  I’m glad you are enjoying your iPad Mini. I have had mine for nearly 2 and a 
half years. Prior to that, I was using an iPad 3.
  I have also been an iPhone user for 6 years and obtained my iPhone 7 silver, 
256 GB, last week. I absolutly love it! The audio is amazing and the batery 
life is so much better than the 6.
David

Sent from my iMac



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> Hi all! How are youall?  I bought an iPad Mini 4 with 128 gigs  last April. 
> The reason I bought it is bcause it has 128 gigs, andit  cost less tehn an 
> IPad Pro, and is small to carrry guys. I bought  tmy Ipad Mini 4 at the Apple 
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>> Hi Paula,
>> That's great. I'm glad you're still getting some use out of it.
>> Anyone thinking about an iPad now has a bit of a dilemma though.
>> My feeling on that is that if you really want a device, you should just get 
>> it. There's always going to be something new and faster with more features 
>> coming out not too long after you get whatever you get anyway, so if you 
>> wait around, you'll always feel that you got an obsolete machine no matter 
>> when you buy it because, technically, it is obsolete almost as soon as it 
>> gets to the public. So just get it when you want it.
>> The devices we have now are so marvelous anyhow that even the obsolete ones 
>> are pretty impressive when you think about it.
>> Evan
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Paula Pinder
>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: IPad Mini 4
>> 
>> Hi Evan and all
>> 
>> I am still using the first iPad Mini that came out a few years ago. It's
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>> it's fine for now until I decide to get a new one.
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Re: IPad Mini 4

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Hi all! How are youall?  I bought an iPad Mini 4 with 128 gigs  last April. The 
reason I bought it is bcause it has 128 gigs, andit  cost less tehn an IPad 
Pro, and is small to carrry guys. I bought  tmy Ipad Mini 4 at the Apple  
store. Hope to hear form yousoon. Thanks and God bless!

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> 
> Hi Paula,
> That's great. I'm glad you're still getting some use out of it.
> Anyone thinking about an iPad now has a bit of a dilemma though.
> My feeling on that is that if you really want a device, you should just get 
> it. There's always going to be something new and faster with more features 
> coming out not too long after you get whatever you get anyway, so if you wait 
> around, you'll always feel that you got an obsolete machine no matter when 
> you buy it because, technically, it is obsolete almost as soon as it gets to 
> the public. So just get it when you want it.
> The devices we have now are so marvelous anyhow that even the obsolete ones 
> are pretty impressive when you think about it.
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message- From: Paula Pinder
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IPad Mini 4
> 
> Hi Evan and all
> 
> I am still using the first iPad Mini that came out a few years ago. It's
> still working well although it is quite slow and is too old for IOS10 but
> it's fine for now until I decide to get a new one.
> 
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> 
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RE: IPad Mini 4

[Merv Keck]

I chose a Mini 4 on  the AT Next plan because I already had two iPhones on 
the plan. So adding the 128 GB Mini 4 was the more economical option for me as 
far as tablets were concerned. It was also the perfect size and was fast enough 
to do everything I needed it to do. In two years from September 2016 I will 
trade it in for something more up to date also on the Next plan so my 
investment is minimal.

Although it sounds great on its own, I tend to pair it with a Bluetooth 
keyboard and speaker. And it is extremely convenient.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evan Reese
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

 

Hmmm, my iPad Mini 4 has stereo speakers at the bottom, on either side of the 
charging port.

I went for the portability of the Mini, and for the apps I’ve tried so far, 
it’s been working great.

Having come out in September 2015, I would bet it will be supported for several 
years yet.

As to this whole old products thing, I know someone who is still using an iPad 
Mini 2. She uses the BARD Mobile app, listens to described movies on Netflix, 
reads her money, runs the KNFB Reader on it, gets on Facebook, and probably 
more I don’t know about, all with no problems. People should be wary of feeling 
that they need the newest and fastest because it ain’t necessarily so.

Evan

Evan

 

From: Jennie Facer <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:29 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

 

It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding onto 
it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed though. It just 
seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.

 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com 
<mailto:ment...@dslextreme.com> > wrote:

When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do better?

Evan

 

From: Jennie Facer <mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

 

If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is awesome! I 
have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro does better than 
that mini. Just a thought.

 

 

Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com 
<mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
something else, it will be a marketing gig.



Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com 
<mailto:russ94...@gmail.com> > wrote:

The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

 

From: Devin Prater 

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  ; Marie 

Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

 

There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want to wait 
a while and see if they prove true. 

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<mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net> > wrote:

I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any rumors of 
an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at full price and have 
a new model come out in a few months.

Marie

 

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RE: IPad Mini 4

[Paula Pinder]

Hi Evan

Yes that's true. I don't think anyone can truly keep up-to-date with all
this technology. The next iPad I get will be a lot faster than my iPad Mini.

Best wishes

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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Evan Reese]

Hi Paula,
That's great. I'm glad you're still getting some use out of it.
Anyone thinking about an iPad now has a bit of a dilemma though.
My feeling on that is that if you really want a device, you should just get 
it. There's always going to be something new and faster with more features 
coming out not too long after you get whatever you get anyway, so if you 
wait around, you'll always feel that you got an obsolete machine no matter 
when you buy it because, technically, it is obsolete almost as soon as it 
gets to the public. So just get it when you want it.
The devices we have now are so marvelous anyhow that even the obsolete ones 
are pretty impressive when you think about it.

Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Paula Pinder

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IPad Mini 4

Hi Evan and all

I am still using the first iPad Mini that came out a few years ago. It's
still working well although it is quite slow and is too old for IOS10 but
it's fine for now until I decide to get a new one.

Best wishes

Paula

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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Pete Nalda]

Though I *do* hope they keep the 7.25" screen format. I prefer the smaller 
screen for handling, especially on the bus. 

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> On Jan 14, 2017, at 1:02 AM, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I just bought an iPad mini 4 through my carrier for $20.00 down. And yeah, 
> probably too should've waited. But, all that said, this feels just as snappy 
> as my Mom's iPad Air 2. My thinking is that the A8 drives the 7.25" screen as 
> fast as my Mom's iPad Air 2 drives the 9.25" screen. My .02 worth. Will I 
> upgrade someday? Sure. I had to settle for a 32gb anyway. 
> 
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> 
>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 11:06 PM, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> This is exactly why I was asking if anyone thought they might be releasing a 
>> newer model in the near future. I have no desire to have the larger IPad Air 
>> and I like the fact that you can still hold a mini in one hand which, for 
>> me, makes it easier to use. I don't need blazing fast performance so the 
>> slower processor is not a huge factor to me.
>> Marie
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Evan Reese
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>> 
>> Well, I got my IPad Mini 4 last April, and the price for the 128GB model was
>> slightly better than for the 64GB one, so I went for that. I didn't want to
>> carry around one of those big slabs, and while the reviews I read certainly
>> did indicate that there was a slight difference in speed between the Mini 4
>> and the Air, for me, it didn't sound worth the inconvenience of the bigger
>> unit.
>> Now, in 2017, if I were hearing that a new iPad might be in the offing, I
>> might consider waiting to see what develops. But that wasn't the case when I
>> got mine last April.
>> Evan
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Ben Mustill-Rose
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:24 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> That depends on your definition of cope; mine's most likely different
>> to yours so listing examples would be rather pointless.
>> 
>> The CPU is the same one that is in the iPhone 6, so the question you
>> have to ask yourself is if you'd buy a 6 in 2017 when there are 2
>> newer options available.
>> The cheaper price arguement doesn't work either: in the UK at least if
>> you buy a mini from Apple you'll be paying £400. I recently purchased
>> a brand new iPad air 2 for £330. Admitidly the bump in spec isn't
>> huge, but a: that represents nearly a 20% decreace in price and b: one
>> hopes that Apple will support it for slightly longer with iOS updates.
>> To me at least, in 2017, the only reason I can see for someone to buy
>> a mini is the smaller screen. To be fair this does make some
>> difference to me - I was using a handfull of mini's to deliver a
>> workshop the other day & they're much nicer to hold than the airs, but
>> that definitely doesn't mean it makes sense to spend more money on a
>> less capable device.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>> 
>>> On 1/14/17, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Evan,
>>> 
>>> I agree with you.
>>> 
>>> I have a desktop computer that is at least three to four years old, while my
>>> 
>>> daughter uses my laptop that is only a year old and much, much faster.
>>> 
>>> Either way, it's still a great computer to use and so I use it on a daily
>>> basis.
>>> 
>>> I happen to know that there are people I know that are still using a
>>> computer with Windows XP on it.  They don't use Internet Explorer, and just
>>> 
>>> use Firefox, and they can't even get iTunes installed on it because the
>>> latest version won't support it.
>>> 
>>> Regardless of that, one does find that apps tend to get more and more
>>> sophisticated and processor intense, and so end getting slower and slower.
>>> The device ends up taking longer and longer to load apps, and the simplest
>>> functions end up getting more difficult and time consuming.
>>> 
>>> I agree with your mindset, as long as it will run it, why the heck not

RE: IPad Mini 4

[Paula Pinder]

Hi Evan and all

I am still using the first iPad Mini that came out a few years ago. It's
still working well although it is quite slow and is too old for IOS10 but
it's fine for now until I decide to get a new one.

Best wishes

Paula

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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Evan Reese]

Well, as I've already said, chip speed is only one factor when considering a 
device, so there is no argument involving speed by itself.
If I were able to drive, I wouldn't let how fast a car can accelerate be my 
only consideration when deciding on which one to buy.
Someone who is considering an iPad now should definitely think about how 
large a device they want, especially if they're going to be carrying it 
around very much, and also how substantial the likelihood is that new iPads 
will be appearing later this year. If Russ is correct that the rumors say 
nothing about a new iPad Mini, and if size is really important to her, then 
she will have to decide on whether to get the Mini 4, even though it is 
older technology. If size isn't important, then she might want to wait and 
see if new iPads come out in the not too distant future.

Evan
Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Ben Mustill-Rose

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Hi,

I never said that people who currently own a device should upgrade
just because it's a few years old; this discussion is about someone
who wishes to buy a device but isn't sure which one to go for.
I delt with the price and size arguements in a previous message.
Assuming you're buying outright price is against the mini here as it's
more expensive than higher spec iPads. The size, as I have mentioned
multiple times is IMO the one thing the mini has going for it - in
fact in terms of size I prefer it to my air 2.

Out of interest, what are the arguements that can be given when
arguing that the 1.5GHZ CPU found in the A8 is better than the 2.16GHZ
CPU found in the A9X?

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

Well, "better" is a subjective term. If you can get it at a cheaper price,
and you don't mind the size, then I suppose the Pro is better. But if you
want a smaller device, and the (rather small) speed difference isn't a
factor in what you're using it for, then the iPad Mini 4 is better. And, 
as


I just mentioned, someone I know is perfectly happy with her iPad Mini 2,
using all the apps she wants to use with no problems. So which is 
"better"?

Chip speed is just one factor. There are other factors in deciding whether
one device is "better" than another, including price and size.
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Evan,

Perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here, but do you
genuinely think that when looking at cold hard numbers the 9.7 pro
isn't better than the mini 4?
The mini 4 uses the A8 SoC and has a 1.5GHZ CPU.
The 9.7 Pro uses the A9X SoC and has a 2.16GHZ CPU.
It's a very simplistic way of looking at it, but 2.16 is a bigger
number than 1.5, there for it is better.

Of course, some people may feel that the increase in performance isn't
enough to justify purchasing it and that the smaller size of the mini
makes up for its outdated technology. that's fine, but that's an
opinion, whereas it is a simple fact that the 9.7 pro contains a
better CPU than the mini 4.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:

It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding
onto it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed
though.
It just seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do
better?
Evan

From: Jennie Facer
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is
awesome! I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro
does better than that mini. Just a thought.



Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they
call something else, it will be a marketing gig.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:

The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

From: Devin Prater
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may
want
to wait a while and see if they prove true.

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On January 13, 2017 4:16:22 PM "Marie" <scribbl...@comcast.net>
wrote:

I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any
rumors of an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at
full price and have a new model come out in a few months.
Marie

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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

I never said that people who currently own a device should upgrade
just because it's a few years old; this discussion is about someone
who wishes to buy a device but isn't sure which one to go for.
I delt with the price and size arguements in a previous message.
Assuming you're buying outright price is against the mini here as it's
more expensive than higher spec iPads. The size, as I have mentioned
multiple times is IMO the one thing the mini has going for it - in
fact in terms of size I prefer it to my air 2.

Out of interest, what are the arguements that can be given when
arguing that the 1.5GHZ CPU found in the A8 is better than the 2.16GHZ
CPU found in the A9X?

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Well, "better" is a subjective term. If you can get it at a cheaper price,
> and you don't mind the size, then I suppose the Pro is better. But if you
> want a smaller device, and the (rather small) speed difference isn't a
> factor in what you're using it for, then the iPad Mini 4 is better. And, as
>
> I just mentioned, someone I know is perfectly happy with her iPad Mini 2,
> using all the apps she wants to use with no problems. So which is "better"?
> Chip speed is just one factor. There are other factors in deciding whether
> one device is "better" than another, including price and size.
> Evan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Mustill-Rose
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>
> Evan,
>
> Perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here, but do you
> genuinely think that when looking at cold hard numbers the 9.7 pro
> isn't better than the mini 4?
> The mini 4 uses the A8 SoC and has a 1.5GHZ CPU.
> The 9.7 Pro uses the A9X SoC and has a 2.16GHZ CPU.
> It's a very simplistic way of looking at it, but 2.16 is a bigger
> number than 1.5, there for it is better.
>
> Of course, some people may feel that the increase in performance isn't
> enough to justify purchasing it and that the smaller size of the mini
> makes up for its outdated technology. that's fine, but that's an
> opinion, whereas it is a simple fact that the 9.7 pro contains a
> better CPU than the mini 4.
>
> Cheers,
> Ben.
>
> On 1/14/17, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding
>> onto it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed
>> though.
>> It just seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>> Jenn and Kumi
>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do
>>> better?
>>> Evan
>>>
>>> From: Jennie Facer
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>>>
>>> If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is
>>> awesome! I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro
>>> does better than that mini. Just a thought.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they
>>>> call something else, it will be a marketing gig.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Devin Prater
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
>>>>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>>>>>
>>>>> There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may
>>>>> want
>>>>> to wait a while and see if they prove true.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>>>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> On January 13, 2017 4:16:22 PM "Marie" <scribbl...@comcast.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any
>>>>>> rumors of an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at
>>>>&

Re: IPad Mini 4

[Evan Reese]

Well, "better" is a subjective term. If you can get it at a cheaper price, 
and you don't mind the size, then I suppose the Pro is better. But if you 
want a smaller device, and the (rather small) speed difference isn't a 
factor in what you're using it for, then the iPad Mini 4 is better. And, as 
I just mentioned, someone I know is perfectly happy with her iPad Mini 2, 
using all the apps she wants to use with no problems. So which is "better"?
Chip speed is just one factor. There are other factors in deciding whether 
one device is "better" than another, including price and size.

Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Ben Mustill-Rose

Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Evan,

Perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here, but do you
genuinely think that when looking at cold hard numbers the 9.7 pro
isn't better than the mini 4?
The mini 4 uses the A8 SoC and has a 1.5GHZ CPU.
The 9.7 Pro uses the A9X SoC and has a 2.16GHZ CPU.
It's a very simplistic way of looking at it, but 2.16 is a bigger
number than 1.5, there for it is better.

Of course, some people may feel that the increase in performance isn't
enough to justify purchasing it and that the smaller size of the mini
makes up for its outdated technology. that's fine, but that's an
opinion, whereas it is a simple fact that the 9.7 pro contains a
better CPU than the mini 4.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:

It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding
onto it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed though.
It just seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do
better?
Evan

From: Jennie Facer
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is
awesome! I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro
does better than that mini. Just a thought.



Jenn and Kumi


On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:

Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they
call something else, it will be a marketing gig.


Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:

The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

From: Devin Prater
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want
to wait a while and see if they prove true.

Sent with AquaMail for Android
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On January 13, 2017 4:16:22 PM "Marie" <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:

I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any
rumors of an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at
full price and have a new model come out in a few months.
Marie

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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Evan,

Perhaps I'm getting the wrong end of the stick here, but do you
genuinely think that when looking at cold hard numbers the 9.7 pro
isn't better than the mini 4?
The mini 4 uses the A8 SoC and has a 1.5GHZ CPU.
The 9.7 Pro uses the A9X SoC and has a 2.16GHZ CPU.
It's a very simplistic way of looking at it, but 2.16 is a bigger
number than 1.5, there for it is better.

Of course, some people may feel that the increase in performance isn't
enough to justify purchasing it and that the smaller size of the mini
makes up for its outdated technology. that's fine, but that's an
opinion, whereas it is a simple fact that the 9.7 pro contains a
better CPU than the mini 4.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding
> onto it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed though.
> It just seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.
>
> Jenn
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>
>> When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do
>> better?
>> Evan
>>
>> From: Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>>
>> If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is
>> awesome! I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro
>> does better than that mini. Just a thought.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jenn and Kumi
>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they
>>> call something else, it will be a marketing gig.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.
>>>>
>>>> From: Devin Prater
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
>>>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>>>>
>>>> There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want
>>>> to wait a while and see if they prove true.
>>>>
>>>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
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>>>>
>>>>> On January 13, 2017 4:16:22 PM "Marie" <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Evan Reese]

Hmmm, my iPad Mini 4 has stereo speakers at the bottom, on either side of the 
charging port.
I went for the portability of the Mini, and for the apps I’ve tried so far, 
it’s been working great.
Having come out in September 2015, I would bet it will be supported for several 
years yet.
As to this whole old products thing, I know someone who is still using an iPad 
Mini 2. She uses the BARD Mobile app, listens to described movies on Netflix, 
reads her money, runs the KNFB Reader on it, gets on Facebook, and probably 
more I don’t know about, all with no problems. People should be wary of feeling 
that they need the newest and fastest because it ain’t necessarily so.
Evan
Evan

From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding onto 
it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed though. It just 
seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.

Jenn


Jenn and Kumi

On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:


  When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do 
better?
  Evan

  From: Jennie Facer 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

  If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is awesome! 
I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro does better 
than that mini. Just a thought.




  Jenn and Kumi

  On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:


Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
something else, it will be a marketing gig.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:


  The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

  From: Devin Prater 
  Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie 
  Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

  There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want 
to wait a while and see if they prove true. 

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I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any 
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price and have a new model come out in a few months.
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Jennie Facer]

It is a lot faster and it has stereo speakers which is nice when holding onto 
it. I don't think it is better when thinking about chip speed though. It just 
seems a little snappier. Just my opinion though.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do 
> better?
> Evan
>  
> From: Jennie Facer
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>  
> If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is awesome! 
> I have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro does better 
> than that mini. Just a thought.
>  
> 
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
>> something else, it will be a marketing gig.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.
>>>  
>>> From: Devin Prater
>>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
>>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>>>  
>>> There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want to 
>>> wait a while and see if they prove true.
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>>>> 
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>>>> rumors of an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at full 
>>>> price and have a new model come out in a few months.
>>>> Marie
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Evan Reese]

When you say “My pro does better than that mini.”, what does your Pro do better?
Evan

From: Jennie Facer 
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is awesome! I 
have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro does better than 
that mini. Just a thought.




Jenn and Kumi

On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
something else, it will be a marketing gig.


  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:


The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

From: Devin Prater 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie 
    Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want to 
wait a while and see if they prove true. 

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  I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any 
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Jennie Facer]

If you can handle just a slightly larger iPad, the 9.7 inch Pero is awesome! I 
have both the mini 4 and that is what my husband uses. My pro does better than 
that mini. Just a thought.



Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:55 AM, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
> something else, it will be a marketing gig.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.
>>  
>> From: Devin Prater
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
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>> There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want to 
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[TaraPrakash]

Anything smaller than current ipad mini will be an ipod touch. If they call 
something else, it will be a marketing gig.


Sent from my iPhone

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> The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.
>  
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Russ Kiehne]

I bought my ipad mini 4 when ios 10 was released.  My first generation ipad 
was not able to be updated.  I got a 64gb for the same price as the 32gb.


-Original Message- 
From: Evan Reese

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Well, I got my iPad Mini 4 last April, and the price for the 128GB model was
slightly better than for the 64GB one, so I went for that. I didn't want to
carry around one of those big slabs, and while the reviews I read certainly
did indicate that there was a slight difference in speed between the Mini 4
and the Air, for me, it didn't sound worth the inconvenience of the bigger
unit.
Now, in 2017, if I were hearing that a new iPad might be in the offing, I
might consider waiting to see what develops. But that wasn't the case when I
got mine last April.
Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Ben Mustill-Rose

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Hi,

That depends on your definition of cope; mine's most likely different
to yours so listing examples would be rather pointless.

The CPU is the same one that is in the iPhone 6, so the question you
have to ask yourself is if you'd buy a 6 in 2017 when there are 2
newer options available.
The cheaper price arguement doesn't work either: in the UK at least if
you buy a mini from Apple you'll be paying £400. I recently purchased
a brand new iPad air 2 for £330. Admitidly the bump in spec isn't
huge, but a: that represents nearly a 20% decreace in price and b: one
hopes that Apple will support it for slightly longer with iOS updates.
To me at least, in 2017, the only reason I can see for someone to buy
a mini is the smaller screen. To be fair this does make some
difference to me - I was using a handfull of mini's to deliver a
workshop the other day & they're much nicer to hold than the airs, but
that definitely doesn't mean it makes sense to spend more money on a
less capable device.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com> wrote:

Hi Evan,

I agree with you.

I have a desktop computer that is at least three to four years old, while 
my


daughter uses my laptop that is only a year old and much, much faster.

Either way, it's still a great computer to use and so I use it on a daily
basis.

I happen to know that there are people I know that are still using a
computer with Windows XP on it.  They don't use Internet Explorer, and 
just


use Firefox, and they can't even get iTunes installed on it because the
latest version won't support it.

Regardless of that, one does find that apps tend to get more and more
sophisticated and processor intense, and so end getting slower and slower.
The device ends up taking longer and longer to load apps, and the simplest
functions end up getting more difficult and time consuming.

I agree with your mindset, as long as it will run it, why the heck not and
keep using a tried and true device.

I'm still using a 4S and have no intention of upgrading to the 7, least of
all it's lack of a headphone jack.  Smiles.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Okay, okay, that might be true theoretically, but the real question is,
what
apps do people want or need to use that a given device can't run because 
it

is too slow or for some other reason is outdated. That is the only
practical
question. If there are significant numbers of apps, or even a few, that a
lot of people want or need that they can't run on their device, then the
device is for all practical purposes obsolete. But if there are none, or 
at

least none that people really want or need that it can't run, then what
practical difference does it make how old it is?
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Actually, the rule of thumb is that computer technology becomes outdated
within six months of it's beta release, in other words, when it's released
to the public.

For a chip, I don't think just under two years is ancient, but it is 
rather

old, Especially when you compare it to today's chips.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Well, the chip in the iPad Mini 4 is (I think) just a shade over two years
old. Is that really that ancient? Do you have any examples of apps that 
you

think are useful that the iPad Mini 4 can't cope with?
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Hi,

Is there no way you could cope with a full size iPad? The Minis use
really old technology by todays standards.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

And there

Re: IPad Mini 4

[Russ Kiehne]

The roomers are for the larger Ipads.  No roomers on a ipad mini.

From: Devin Prater 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie 
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want to wait 
a while and see if they prove true. 

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com

On January 13, 2017 4:16:22 PM "Marie" <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:

  I am thinking of getting a mini 4 but just wondering if there are any rumors 
of an upgrade coming any time soon. I would hate to buy one at full price and 
have a new model come out in a few months.
  Marie

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Re: IPad Mini 4

[Pete Nalda]

I just bought an iPad mini 4 through my carrier for $20.00 down. And yeah, 
probably too should've waited. But, all that said, this feels just as snappy as 
my Mom's iPad Air 2. My thinking is that the A8 drives the 7.25" screen as fast 
as my Mom's iPad Air 2 drives the 9.25" screen. My .02 worth. Will I upgrade 
someday? Sure. I had to settle for a 32gb anyway. 

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> On Jan 13, 2017, at 11:06 PM, Marie <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> This is exactly why I was asking if anyone thought they might be releasing a 
> newer model in the near future. I have no desire to have the larger IPad Air 
> and I like the fact that you can still hold a mini in one hand which, for me, 
> makes it easier to use. I don't need blazing fast performance so the slower 
> processor is not a huge factor to me.
> Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Evan Reese
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
> 
> Well, I got my IPad Mini 4 last April, and the price for the 128GB model was
> slightly better than for the 64GB one, so I went for that. I didn't want to
> carry around one of those big slabs, and while the reviews I read certainly
> did indicate that there was a slight difference in speed between the Mini 4
> and the Air, for me, it didn't sound worth the inconvenience of the bigger
> unit.
> Now, in 2017, if I were hearing that a new iPad might be in the offing, I
> might consider waiting to see what develops. But that wasn't the case when I
> got mine last April.
> Evan
> 
> -Original Message- From: Ben Mustill-Rose
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
> 
> Hi,
> 
> That depends on your definition of cope; mine's most likely different
> to yours so listing examples would be rather pointless.
> 
> The CPU is the same one that is in the iPhone 6, so the question you
> have to ask yourself is if you'd buy a 6 in 2017 when there are 2
> newer options available.
> The cheaper price arguement doesn't work either: in the UK at least if
> you buy a mini from Apple you'll be paying £400. I recently purchased
> a brand new iPad air 2 for £330. Admitidly the bump in spec isn't
> huge, but a: that represents nearly a 20% decreace in price and b: one
> hopes that Apple will support it for slightly longer with iOS updates.
> To me at least, in 2017, the only reason I can see for someone to buy
> a mini is the smaller screen. To be fair this does make some
> difference to me - I was using a handfull of mini's to deliver a
> workshop the other day & they're much nicer to hold than the airs, but
> that definitely doesn't mean it makes sense to spend more money on a
> less capable device.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
>> On 1/14/17, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com> wrote:
>> Hi Evan,
>> 
>> I agree with you.
>> 
>> I have a desktop computer that is at least three to four years old, while my
>> 
>> daughter uses my laptop that is only a year old and much, much faster.
>> 
>> Either way, it's still a great computer to use and so I use it on a daily
>> basis.
>> 
>> I happen to know that there are people I know that are still using a
>> computer with Windows XP on it.  They don't use Internet Explorer, and just
>> 
>> use Firefox, and they can't even get iTunes installed on it because the
>> latest version won't support it.
>> 
>> Regardless of that, one does find that apps tend to get more and more
>> sophisticated and processor intense, and so end getting slower and slower.
>> The device ends up taking longer and longer to load apps, and the simplest
>> functions end up getting more difficult and time consuming.
>> 
>> I agree with your mindset, as long as it will run it, why the heck not and
>> keep using a tried and true device.
>> 
>> I'm still using a 4S and have no intention of upgrading to the 7, least of
>> all it's lack of a headphone jack.  Smiles.
>> 
>> Victor
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Evan Reese
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>> 
>> Okay, okay, that might be true theoretically, but the real question is,
>> what
>> apps do people want or need to use that a given device can't run because it
>> is too slow or for some other reason is outdated. That is the only
>> practical
>> question. If there are significa

Re: IPad Mini 4

[Marie]

This is exactly why I was asking if anyone thought they might be releasing a 
newer model in the near future. I have no desire to have the larger IPad Air 
and I like the fact that you can still hold a mini in one hand which, for 
me, makes it easier to use. I don't need blazing fast performance so the 
slower processor is not a huge factor to me.

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Evan Reese

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Well, I got my IPad Mini 4 last April, and the price for the 128GB model was
slightly better than for the 64GB one, so I went for that. I didn't want to
carry around one of those big slabs, and while the reviews I read certainly
did indicate that there was a slight difference in speed between the Mini 4
and the Air, for me, it didn't sound worth the inconvenience of the bigger
unit.
Now, in 2017, if I were hearing that a new iPad might be in the offing, I
might consider waiting to see what develops. But that wasn't the case when I
got mine last April.
Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Ben Mustill-Rose

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Hi,

That depends on your definition of cope; mine's most likely different
to yours so listing examples would be rather pointless.

The CPU is the same one that is in the iPhone 6, so the question you
have to ask yourself is if you'd buy a 6 in 2017 when there are 2
newer options available.
The cheaper price arguement doesn't work either: in the UK at least if
you buy a mini from Apple you'll be paying £400. I recently purchased
a brand new iPad air 2 for £330. Admitidly the bump in spec isn't
huge, but a: that represents nearly a 20% decreace in price and b: one
hopes that Apple will support it for slightly longer with iOS updates.
To me at least, in 2017, the only reason I can see for someone to buy
a mini is the smaller screen. To be fair this does make some
difference to me - I was using a handfull of mini's to deliver a
workshop the other day & they're much nicer to hold than the airs, but
that definitely doesn't mean it makes sense to spend more money on a
less capable device.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com> wrote:

Hi Evan,

I agree with you.

I have a desktop computer that is at least three to four years old, while 
my


daughter uses my laptop that is only a year old and much, much faster.

Either way, it's still a great computer to use and so I use it on a daily
basis.

I happen to know that there are people I know that are still using a
computer with Windows XP on it.  They don't use Internet Explorer, and 
just


use Firefox, and they can't even get iTunes installed on it because the
latest version won't support it.

Regardless of that, one does find that apps tend to get more and more
sophisticated and processor intense, and so end getting slower and slower.
The device ends up taking longer and longer to load apps, and the simplest
functions end up getting more difficult and time consuming.

I agree with your mindset, as long as it will run it, why the heck not and
keep using a tried and true device.

I'm still using a 4S and have no intention of upgrading to the 7, least of
all it's lack of a headphone jack.  Smiles.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Okay, okay, that might be true theoretically, but the real question is,
what
apps do people want or need to use that a given device can't run because 
it

is too slow or for some other reason is outdated. That is the only
practical
question. If there are significant numbers of apps, or even a few, that a
lot of people want or need that they can't run on their device, then the
device is for all practical purposes obsolete. But if there are none, or 
at

least none that people really want or need that it can't run, then what
practical difference does it make how old it is?
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Actually, the rule of thumb is that computer technology becomes outdated
within six months of it's beta release, in other words, when it's released
to the public.

For a chip, I don't think just under two years is ancient, but it is 
rather

old, Especially when you compare it to today's chips.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Well, the chip in the iPad Mini 4 is (I think) just a shade over two years
old. Is that really that ancient? Do you have any examples of apps that 
you

think are useful that the iPad Mini 4 can't cope with?
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad 

Re: IPad Mini 4

[Evan Reese]

Well, I got my iPad Mini 4 last April, and the price for the 128GB model was 
slightly better than for the 64GB one, so I went for that. I didn't want to 
carry around one of those big slabs, and while the reviews I read certainly 
did indicate that there was a slight difference in speed between the Mini 4 
and the Air, for me, it didn't sound worth the inconvenience of the bigger 
unit.
Now, in 2017, if I were hearing that a new iPad might be in the offing, I 
might consider waiting to see what develops. But that wasn't the case when I 
got mine last April.

Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Ben Mustill-Rose

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Hi,

That depends on your definition of cope; mine's most likely different
to yours so listing examples would be rather pointless.

The CPU is the same one that is in the iPhone 6, so the question you
have to ask yourself is if you'd buy a 6 in 2017 when there are 2
newer options available.
The cheaper price arguement doesn't work either: in the UK at least if
you buy a mini from Apple you'll be paying £400. I recently purchased
a brand new iPad air 2 for £330. Admitidly the bump in spec isn't
huge, but a: that represents nearly a 20% decreace in price and b: one
hopes that Apple will support it for slightly longer with iOS updates.
To me at least, in 2017, the only reason I can see for someone to buy
a mini is the smaller screen. To be fair this does make some
difference to me - I was using a handfull of mini's to deliver a
workshop the other day & they're much nicer to hold than the airs, but
that definitely doesn't mean it makes sense to spend more money on a
less capable device.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com> wrote:

Hi Evan,

I agree with you.

I have a desktop computer that is at least three to four years old, while 
my


daughter uses my laptop that is only a year old and much, much faster.

Either way, it's still a great computer to use and so I use it on a daily
basis.

I happen to know that there are people I know that are still using a
computer with Windows XP on it.  They don't use Internet Explorer, and 
just


use Firefox, and they can't even get iTunes installed on it because the
latest version won't support it.

Regardless of that, one does find that apps tend to get more and more
sophisticated and processor intense, and so end getting slower and slower.
The device ends up taking longer and longer to load apps, and the simplest
functions end up getting more difficult and time consuming.

I agree with your mindset, as long as it will run it, why the heck not and
keep using a tried and true device.

I'm still using a 4S and have no intention of upgrading to the 7, least of
all it's lack of a headphone jack.  Smiles.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Okay, okay, that might be true theoretically, but the real question is,
what
apps do people want or need to use that a given device can't run because 
it

is too slow or for some other reason is outdated. That is the only
practical
question. If there are significant numbers of apps, or even a few, that a
lot of people want or need that they can't run on their device, then the
device is for all practical purposes obsolete. But if there are none, or 
at

least none that people really want or need that it can't run, then what
practical difference does it make how old it is?
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Victor Gouveia
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Actually, the rule of thumb is that computer technology becomes outdated
within six months of it's beta release, in other words, when it's released
to the public.

For a chip, I don't think just under two years is ancient, but it is 
rather

old, Especially when you compare it to today's chips.

Victor

-Original Message-
From: Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Well, the chip in the iPad Mini 4 is (I think) just a shade over two years
old. Is that really that ancient? Do you have any examples of apps that 
you

think are useful that the iPad Mini 4 can't cope with?
Evan

-Original Message-
From: Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Hi,

Is there no way you could cope with a full size iPad? The Minis use
really old technology by todays standards.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

And there’s also the fact that if there is a new iPad Mini this year,
better
deals on the 4 will appear soon after.
Evan

From: Devin Prater
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

There are rumors of new iPads being released this 

Re: IPad Mini 4

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

That depends on your definition of cope; mine's most likely different
to yours so listing examples would be rather pointless.

The CPU is the same one that is in the iPhone 6, so the question you
have to ask yourself is if you'd buy a 6 in 2017 when there are 2
newer options available.
The cheaper price arguement doesn't work either: in the UK at least if
you buy a mini from Apple you'll be paying £400. I recently purchased
a brand new iPad air 2 for £330. Admitidly the bump in spec isn't
huge, but a: that represents nearly a 20% decreace in price and b: one
hopes that Apple will support it for slightly longer with iOS updates.
To me at least, in 2017, the only reason I can see for someone to buy
a mini is the smaller screen. To be fair this does make some
difference to me - I was using a handfull of mini's to deliver a
workshop the other day & they're much nicer to hold than the airs, but
that definitely doesn't mean it makes sense to spend more money on a
less capable device.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/14/17, Victor Gouveia <victor.gouv...@rogers.com> wrote:
> Hi Evan,
>
> I agree with you.
>
> I have a desktop computer that is at least three to four years old, while my
>
> daughter uses my laptop that is only a year old and much, much faster.
>
> Either way, it's still a great computer to use and so I use it on a daily
> basis.
>
> I happen to know that there are people I know that are still using a
> computer with Windows XP on it.  They don't use Internet Explorer, and just
>
> use Firefox, and they can't even get iTunes installed on it because the
> latest version won't support it.
>
> Regardless of that, one does find that apps tend to get more and more
> sophisticated and processor intense, and so end getting slower and slower.
> The device ends up taking longer and longer to load apps, and the simplest
> functions end up getting more difficult and time consuming.
>
> I agree with your mindset, as long as it will run it, why the heck not and
> keep using a tried and true device.
>
> I'm still using a 4S and have no intention of upgrading to the 7, least of
> all it's lack of a headphone jack.  Smiles.
>
> Victor
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Evan Reese
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>
> Okay, okay, that might be true theoretically, but the real question is,
> what
> apps do people want or need to use that a given device can't run because it
> is too slow or for some other reason is outdated. That is the only
> practical
> question. If there are significant numbers of apps, or even a few, that a
> lot of people want or need that they can't run on their device, then the
> device is for all practical purposes obsolete. But if there are none, or at
> least none that people really want or need that it can't run, then what
> practical difference does it make how old it is?
> Evan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Victor Gouveia
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>
> Actually, the rule of thumb is that computer technology becomes outdated
> within six months of it's beta release, in other words, when it's released
> to the public.
>
> For a chip, I don't think just under two years is ancient, but it is rather
> old, Especially when you compare it to today's chips.
>
> Victor
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Evan Reese
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>
> Well, the chip in the iPad Mini 4 is (I think) just a shade over two years
> old. Is that really that ancient? Do you have any examples of apps that you
> think are useful that the iPad Mini 4 can't cope with?
> Evan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Mustill-Rose
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there no way you could cope with a full size iPad? The Minis use
> really old technology by todays standards.
>
> Cheers,
> Ben.
>
> On 1/14/17, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> And there’s also the fact that if there is a new iPad Mini this year,
>> better
>> deals on the 4 will appear soon after.
>> Evan
>>
>> From: Devin Prater
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 6:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Marie
>> Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4
>>
>> There are rumors of new iPads being released this year, so you may want
>> to
>> wait a while and see if they prove true.
>>
>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>> On January 13, 2017 4:16:

Re: IPad Mini 4

[Victor Gouveia]

Hi Evan,

I agree with you.

I have a desktop computer that is at least three to four years old, while my 
daughter uses my laptop that is only a year old and much, much faster.


Either way, it's still a great computer to use and so I use it on a daily 
basis.


I happen to know that there are people I know that are still using a 
computer with Windows XP on it.  They don't use Internet Explorer, and just 
use Firefox, and they can't even get iTunes installed on it because the 
latest version won't support it.


Regardless of that, one does find that apps tend to get more and more 
sophisticated and processor intense, and so end getting slower and slower. 
The device ends up taking longer and longer to load apps, and the simplest 
functions end up getting more difficult and time consuming.


I agree with your mindset, as long as it will run it, why the heck not and 
keep using a tried and true device.


I'm still using a 4S and have no intention of upgrading to the 7, least of 
all it's lack of a headphone jack.  Smiles.


Victor

-Original Message- 
From: Evan Reese

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Okay, okay, that might be true theoretically, but the real question is, what
apps do people want or need to use that a given device can't run because it
is too slow or for some other reason is outdated. That is the only practical
question. If there are significant numbers of apps, or even a few, that a
lot of people want or need that they can't run on their device, then the
device is for all practical purposes obsolete. But if there are none, or at
least none that people really want or need that it can't run, then what
practical difference does it make how old it is?
Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Victor Gouveia

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Actually, the rule of thumb is that computer technology becomes outdated
within six months of it's beta release, in other words, when it's released
to the public.

For a chip, I don't think just under two years is ancient, but it is rather
old, Especially when you compare it to today's chips.

Victor

-Original Message- 
From: Evan Reese

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Well, the chip in the iPad Mini 4 is (I think) just a shade over two years
old. Is that really that ancient? Do you have any examples of apps that you
think are useful that the iPad Mini 4 can't cope with?
Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Ben Mustill-Rose

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Hi,

Is there no way you could cope with a full size iPad? The Minis use
really old technology by todays standards.

Cheers,
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better

deals on the 4 will appear soon after.
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Okay, okay, that might be true theoretically, but the real question is, what 
apps do people want or need to use that a given device can't run because it 
is too slow or for some other reason is outdated. That is the only practical 
question. If there are significant numbers of apps, or even a few, that a 
lot of people want or need that they can't run on their device, then the 
device is for all practical purposes obsolete. But if there are none, or at 
least none that people really want or need that it can't run, then what 
practical difference does it make how old it is?

Evan

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Actually, the rule of thumb is that computer technology becomes outdated
within six months of it's beta release, in other words, when it's released
to the public.

For a chip, I don't think just under two years is ancient, but it is rather
old, Especially when you compare it to today's chips.

Victor

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Subject: Re: IPad Mini 4

Well, the chip in the iPad Mini 4 is (I think) just a shade over two years
old. Is that really that ancient? Do you have any examples of apps that you
think are useful that the iPad Mini 4 can't cope with?
Evan

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Hi,

Is there no way you could cope with a full size iPad? The Minis use
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Cheers,
Ben.

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better

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Re: IPad Mini 4

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Actually, the rule of thumb is that computer technology becomes outdated 
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For a chip, I don't think just under two years is ancient, but it is rather 
old, Especially when you compare it to today's chips.


Victor

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Well, the chip in the iPad Mini 4 is (I think) just a shade over two years
old. Is that really that ancient? Do you have any examples of apps that you
think are useful that the iPad Mini 4 can't cope with?
Evan

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Hi,

Is there no way you could cope with a full size iPad? The Minis use
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Cheers,
Ben.

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better

deals on the 4 will appear soon after.
Evan

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Well, the chip in the iPad Mini 4 is (I think) just a shade over two years 
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Hi,

Is there no way you could cope with a full size iPad? The Minis use
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Cheers,
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Hi,

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And there’s also the fact that if there is a new iPad Mini this year, better 
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Re: ipad mini 1st version and can't find compose mail button in native mail app

[Jen .]

Ok you used to be able to see the button no matter what.  Glad I'm not the only 
one with this problem.

> On Nov 25, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Daniel L. Gervais 
> <daniel.l.gerv...@inspection.gc.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jen,
> 
> I am pretty sure that the only way you can see the "Compose" button is
> when you have an opened e-mail.  I too was wondering about this and
> never found any other way of getting to the button.  Sorry!
> 
> 
> From:"Jen ." <jencol...@hotmail.com>
> To:"viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date:2016/11/25 12:05 PM
> Subject:Re: ipad mini 1st version and can't find compose mail
> button in native mail app
> 
> I have it locked to portrait mode.
> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2016, at 11:37 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hi,
>> if in landscape, try near the bottom, or a read all, to see if it's
> truly there or not.
>> 
>> Sent fromThunderhbird
>> 
>>> On 25/11/2016 03:26 PM, Jen . wrote:
>>> Hi I have an iPad mini 1^st version running iOS 9.3.5 and in the
> native
>>> mail app I am not able to find the compose mail button.
>>> 
>>> The only time I see it at all is if I go in to an email message and
> then
>>> it shows up but if there’s no email I can’t compose a message.
>>> 
>>> Please help if you can.
>>> 
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Re: ipad mini 1st version and can't find compose mail button in native mail app

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Hi Jen,

I am pretty sure that the only way you can see the "Compose" button is
when you have an opened e-mail.  I too was wondering about this and
never found any other way of getting to the button.  Sorry!


From:   "Jen ." <jencol...@hotmail.com>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date:   2016/11/25 12:05 PM
Subject:Re: ipad mini 1st version and can't find compose mail
button in native mail app

I have it locked to portrait mode.

> On Nov 25, 2016, at 11:37 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> 
> hi,
> if in landscape, try near the bottom, or a read all, to see if it's
truly there or not.
> 
> Sent fromThunderhbird
> 
>> On 25/11/2016 03:26 PM, Jen . wrote:
>> Hi I have an iPad mini 1^st version running iOS 9.3.5 and in the
native
>> mail app I am not able to find the compose mail button.
>> 
>> The only time I see it at all is if I go in to an email message and
then
>> it shows up but if there’s no email I can’t compose a message.
>> 
>> Please help if you can.
>> 
>> Jen
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Re: ipad mini 1st version and can't find compose mail button in native mail app

[Jen .]

I have it locked to portrait mode.

> On Nov 25, 2016, at 11:37 AM, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> hi,
> if in landscape, try near the bottom, or a read all, to see if it's truly 
> there or not.
> 
> Sent fromThunderhbird
> 
>> On 25/11/2016 03:26 PM, Jen . wrote:
>> Hi I have an iPad mini 1^st version running iOS 9.3.5 and in the native
>> mail app I am not able to find the compose mail button.
>> 
>> The only time I see it at all is if I go in to an email message and then
>> it shows up but if there’s no email I can’t compose a message.
>> 
>> Please help if you can.
>> 
>> Jen
>> 
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Re: ipad mini 1st version and can't find compose mail button in native mail app

[rajmund]

hi,
if in landscape, try near the bottom, or a read all, to see if it's 
truly there or not.


Sent fromThunderhbird

On 25/11/2016 03:26 PM, Jen . wrote:

Hi I have an iPad mini 1^st version running iOS 9.3.5 and in the native
mail app I am not able to find the compose mail button.

The only time I see it at all is if I go in to an email message and then
it shows up but if there’s no email I can’t compose a message.

Please help if you can.

Jen

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Re: iPad Mini and Contacts

[matthew dyer]

Hi Jim.

If you are using iCloud your contacts should already be there.  If you sign in 
to your Apple ID, then make sure contacts is checked and you should be set.

Matthew


> On Oct 1, 2016, at 7:11 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:
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> Howdy!
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> Question.
> I just got an iPad Mini for a steal of a price and am setting up.  It’s an 
> iPad Mini 2, but for what I need to do, it’s fine with me.
>  
> I decided to set it up as a new device rather than going and restoring from 
> iCloud, which only has my iPhone backup. I wasn’t sure I wanted all of the 
> apps I have on my phone to go on the iPad.
> One thing I’d like to know is how I can get my contacts onto my iPad without 
> having to rebuild the list.  I have many contacts on my phone and think it 
> would be easy and good to have them on my iPad as well.
> I’ve got my email accounts set up, but with email come contacts.
>  
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Re: iPad Mini and Contacts

[Tara Prakash]

Hi. I am also interested in knowing How you would transfer the email
accounts from iphone to ipad mini. I am setting up one and not too
keen on entering the user id and passwords some which I may not
remember.

Thanks for any help.


On 10/2/16, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
> Hi
>
> That’s allright, I have an iPad Mini 2 myself, and can run the latest and
> greatest software if interested.
>> On 2 Oct 2016, at 00:11, Jim Portillo  wrote:
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>> Howdy!
>>
>> Question.
>> I just got an iPad Mini for a steal of a price and am setting up.  It’s an
>> iPad Mini 2, but for what I need to do, it’s fine with me.
>>
>> I decided to set it up as a new device rather than going and restoring
>> from iCloud, which only has my iPhone backup. I wasn’t sure I wanted all
>> of the apps I have on my phone to go on the iPad.
>> One thing I’d like to know is how I can get my contacts onto my iPad
>> without having to rebuild the list.  I have many contacts on my phone and
>> think it would be easy and good to have them on my iPad as well.
>> I’ve got my email accounts set up, but with email come contacts.
>>
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>> Jim
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Re: iPad Mini and Contacts

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi

That’s allright, I have an iPad Mini 2 myself, and can run the latest and 
greatest software if interested.
> On 2 Oct 2016, at 00:11, Jim Portillo  wrote:
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> Howdy!
>  
> Question.
> I just got an iPad Mini for a steal of a price and am setting up.  It’s an 
> iPad Mini 2, but for what I need to do, it’s fine with me.
>  
> I decided to set it up as a new device rather than going and restoring from 
> iCloud, which only has my iPhone backup. I wasn’t sure I wanted all of the 
> apps I have on my phone to go on the iPad.
> One thing I’d like to know is how I can get my contacts onto my iPad without 
> having to rebuild the list.  I have many contacts on my phone and think it 
> would be easy and good to have them on my iPad as well.
> I’ve got my email accounts set up, but with email come contacts.
>  
> Any advice?
> Jim
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Re: iPad Mini and Contacts

[Deb Lewis]

Save them to the Cloud on your first device, and turn on the contacts
for ICloud on the second device. Works for your browser favorites as
well.

On 10/1/16, Jim Portillo  wrote:
> Howdy!
>
>
>
> Question.
>
> I just got an iPad Mini for a steal of a price and am setting up.  It's an
> iPad Mini 2, but for what I need to do, it's fine with me.
>
>
>
> I decided to set it up as a new device rather than going and restoring from
> iCloud, which only has my iPhone backup. I wasn't sure I wanted all of the
> apps I have on my phone to go on the iPad.
>
> One thing I'd like to know is how I can get my contacts onto my iPad
> without
> having to rebuild the list.  I have many contacts on my phone and think it
> would be easy and good to have them on my iPad as well.
>
> I've got my email accounts set up, but with email come contacts.
>
>
>
> Any advice?
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
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RE: iPad mini stuck in landscape mode

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi,

Try going to the control center by touching the status bar and then doing a 
three finger flick up.  Lock orientation is one of the options in the control 
center.



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Subject: Re: iPad mini stuck in landscape mode

hello,
have you checked your side switch?

Sent from my iPhone 5S

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> Hi, my iPad mini is stuck in landscape mode. Can anyone help me with this? I 
> need to get it back in portrait mode. Thanks for any help.
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Re: iPad mini stuck in landscape mode

[rajmund]

hello,
have you checked your side switch?

Sent from my iPhone 5S

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Re: A couple of questions re IPad Mini 4

[christopher hallsworth]

Not seeing any iPad specific bugs, but in any case, split screens are for 
certain apps only like the stock Settings and Mail apps.
> On 21 Sep 2015, at 05:45, M.Nelson  wrote:
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> when the excitement settles down, I intend to get a Mini4. I won’t be using 
> it for phone calls, don’t use a BT keyboard and seldom use it for email, so 
> are there any other “gotchas” that I should be aware of? Also, is the screen 
> always split or just with certain apps?
> Thanks,
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A couple of questions re IPad Mini 4

[M.Nelson]

when the excitement settles down, I intend to get a Mini4. I won’t be using it 
for phone calls, don’t use a BT keyboard and seldom use it for email, so are 
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Re: IPad Mini and bluetooth keyboards

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hello. Ever since IOS  8.0 you need to turn quick navigation mode off to type 
with a Bluetooth keyboard. That should help.



 On Dec 3, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Clark jeffclark...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Does anyone know if the Amazon Basic Bluetooth keyboard is compatible with 
 IOS 8.1? I upgraded my IPad Mini and Iphone 5s to the latest IOS .1 and the 
 keyboard is not working correctly. Specifically using the keyboard to enter 
 text in edit boxes. I have an another IPAD mini with IOS 7 and it works fine. 
 Does anyone know what I may do with the Amazon keyboard to have it work 
 correctly? Firmware update or something?
 Ok, now if this is a barrier with the IOS 8.1, can I put my IPad back to IOS 
 7? Any recommendations for Bluetooth keyboards that will work with IOS 8 and 
 voiceover?
 Thanks in advance,
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Re: IPad Mini Will Not Work

[Jessica Dail]

HI,
IF I WERE YOU, I'D CALL APPLE ACCESSIBILITY AT 877-2043930 AND TELL THEM WHAT'S 
HAPPENING. You may also make an appointment at an apple store. they may be able 
to hlep you as well.

Sent from my iPad

 On Nov 15, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Lynda Ingraham lynda.ingra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone, 
 
 I have an Ipad Mini 128 gb. With retina display. We were listening to a book
 from NLS when suddenly the book stopped and voice over was gone. 
 
 I plugged the mini into the computer to try a reset or restore. I received
 the message that find my Ipad must be turned off. Went to I cloud to turn
 it off. The Ipad is not listed as a device. To my knowledge, I never turned
 on find my Ipad. I have also tried holding in the home button along with the
 power switch.BTW, Itunes does recognize the mini as being connected. When I
 looked at the configuration for voice over, vo was not checked. I did check
 the vo option. Still nothing.  
 
 Any help would be very much appreciated. 
 
 Lynda 
 
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RE: IPad Mini Will Not Work

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Linda,

Did you try it with a headset? Chances are the volume dropped to 0 so you can 
see if Voiceover works with a headset. If so then put focus at the top of your 
home screen, unplug he headset and start Voiceover reading continuously with a 
2-finger swipe up. Now repeatedly push the volume up button and see if you can 
start to hear Voiceover.

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Subject: IPad Mini Will Not Work

Hi Everyone, 

I have an Ipad Mini 128 gb. With retina display. We were listening to a book
from NLS when suddenly the book stopped and voice over was gone. 

I plugged the mini into the computer to try a reset or restore. I received
the message that find my Ipad must be turned off. Went to I cloud to turn
it off. The Ipad is not listed as a device. To my knowledge, I never turned
on find my Ipad. I have also tried holding in the home button along with the
power switch.BTW, Itunes does recognize the mini as being connected. When I
looked at the configuration for voice over, vo was not checked. I did check
the vo option. Still nothing.  

Any help would be very much appreciated. 

Lynda 

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Re: iPad mini VS iPad 2 sound quality and battery life

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Cheryl,

Yes, I meant the iPad Air 2 sorry can’t keep up with all the names. Thanks for 
letting me know about the audio quality on it, going to check them out in the 
store tomorrow, but considering how loud the store is audio is not really 
something you can get a good feel for. If I do get an iPad I am leaning towards 
the iPad Mini 2 unless they do not have it in 64 gigs which I am not sure if 
they do.

thanks for your thoughts.
On Nov 3, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 Is it safe to assume that by iPad 2 you mean iPad Air 2? If so, it seems 
 to me that the sound is significantly better on the iPad Air 2 than even on 
 the iPad Air 1; it seems much louder to me. It is also very noticeable to me 
 that it is thinner. This is definitely not a brick or even a heavy panel. You 
 can tell I really really like it so I guess that makes me a prejudiced source 
 and not really objective!
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Nov 3, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Kerri G kerri.g1...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I have an iPad mini 2 and love it. I don’t really see much difference 
 between the mini and the regular iPad save size so for me the mii is best.
 On Nov 3, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You're welcome. I felt a mini briefly Christmas last year and that did it 
 for me. Didn't need to hold it or anything but to each their own.
 
 On 03/11/2014 16:44, Brian Fischler wrote:
 Thanks so much for your thoughts Christopher as they are helpful. Not sure 
 if I am going to make the dive as I want to hold them to see if I will 
 like them more than the original iPad. I use my iPhone 5S for everything 
 so am thinking I might really enjoy the mini and if I do like the size 
 will probably go with last years model which I never do with technology 
 but considering to my knowledge the only thing new on this year’s mini is 
 touch ID no need to pay the extra just for that although I am not sure if 
 they offer last year’s mini in 64GB which is what I would want so have to 
 see. Thanks again.
 On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:47 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I have the iPad Mini 2 which I'm writing this on. Sound quality far 
 exceeds my expectations compared to my iPhone which is a 4s. The same 
 goes for battery life, however since I use the iPad Mini 2 nearly full 
 time I only get 3-4 days compared to when I first had it;: at least two 
 weeks. But that was due to limited use and has nothing to do with the 
 iPad Mini 2 itself. But hey, not bad compared to a Windows laptop which 
 sucks anyway.  I also have a Macbook Pro, late 2011 model and battery 
 life even today is pretty good. Anyway I realize I'm waffling on a bit so 
 will get off my soapbox. Good luck in whatever you decide to get if you 
 get one at all.
 
 
 
 On 3 Nov 2014, at 06:15, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 I am going to be checking out the iPad, not sure if it is for me, but 
 had a couple of questions that I doubt I will be able to know from being 
 in the store. I have only had the first generation iPad and I hated it 
 as I felt it was to bulky and since I have no usable vision the screen 
 being the size it was did nothing for me. I am going to check out the 
 newest iPads as well as the iPad mini from last year as if the mini is 
 for me paying for touch ID does not really do much for me. The most 
 important things to me being a 3GS, 4S, and now 5S user is sound on the 
 iPad. does anyone know how the quality of sound and how loud it goes 
 compares on the mini and new iPad 2? I have plenty of bluetooth speakers 
 but also want great sound from the iPad and am not sure if there are 
 better sound chips in this year’s model, or speakers built in internally.
 
 Also does anyone know if the mini has better battery life than the iPad 
 2 that just came out? My main concern is I never lock the screen on my 
 iPhone so I have to charge it multiple times a day. I probably would 
 lock the screen on the iPad, so this might not matter, as I recall the 
 battery life on my first gen iPad was fantastic.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: iPad mini VS iPad 2 sound quality and battery life

[Michelle Bernstein]

I have the first generation Ipad Air and the sound quality is excellent.  
If you use this device to listen to audiobooks or podcasts, I think it has 
a clearer sound than does the second generation Victor Reader Stream 
although as you mention, the Ipad is not very portable.
On Monday, November 3, 2014 1:15:59 AM UTC-5, Brian Fischler wrote: 

 I am going to be checking out the iPad, not sure if it is for me, but had 
 a couple of questions that I doubt I will be able to know from being in the 
 store. I have only had the first generation iPad and I hated it as I felt 
 it was to bulky and since I have no usable vision the screen being the size 
 it was did nothing for me. I am going to check out the newest iPads as well 
 as the iPad mini from last year as if the mini is for me paying for touch 
 ID does not really do much for me. The most important things to me being a 
 3GS, 4S, and now 5S user is sound on the iPad. does anyone know how the 
 quality of sound and how loud it goes compares on the mini and new iPad 2? 
 I have plenty of bluetooth speakers but also want great sound from the iPad 
 and am not sure if there are better sound chips in this year’s model, or 
 speakers built in internally. 

 Also does anyone know if the mini has better battery life than the iPad 2 
 that just came out? My main concern is I never lock the screen on my iPhone 
 so I have to charge it multiple times a day. I probably would lock the 
 screen on the iPad, so this might not matter, as I recall the battery life 
 on my first gen iPad was fantastic. 

 Thanks,

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Re: iPad mini VS iPad 2 sound quality and battery life

[Michelle Bernstein]

I also never manually lock my screen, but keeping the setting to auto lock 
setting to the lowest option of 2 minutes and recharging the Ipad to close 
to 100% each time,
I probably need to recharge the Ipad Air 2 or 3 times each week. Of course, 
it depends on how  much you use the Ipad each day.
On Monday, November 3, 2014 1:15:59 AM UTC-5, Brian Fischler wrote:

 I am going to be checking out the iPad, not sure if it is for me, but had 
 a couple of questions that I doubt I will be able to know from being in the 
 store. I have only had the first generation iPad and I hated it as I felt 
 it was to bulky and since I have no usable vision the screen being the size 
 it was did nothing for me. I am going to check out the newest iPads as well 
 as the iPad mini from last year as if the mini is for me paying for touch 
 ID does not really do much for me. The most important things to me being a 
 3GS, 4S, and now 5S user is sound on the iPad. does anyone know how the 
 quality of sound and how loud it goes compares on the mini and new iPad 2? 
 I have plenty of bluetooth speakers but also want great sound from the iPad 
 and am not sure if there are better sound chips in this year’s model, or 
 speakers built in internally. 

 Also does anyone know if the mini has better battery life than the iPad 2 
 that just came out? My main concern is I never lock the screen on my iPhone 
 so I have to charge it multiple times a day. I probably would lock the 
 screen on the iPad, so this might not matter, as I recall the battery life 
 on my first gen iPad was fantastic. 

 Thanks,

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Re: iPad mini VS iPad 2 sound quality and battery life

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks so much for your thoughts Christopher as they are helpful. Not sure if I 
am going to make the dive as I want to hold them to see if I will like them 
more than the original iPad. I use my iPhone 5S for everything so am thinking I 
might really enjoy the mini and if I do like the size will probably go with 
last years model which I never do with technology but considering to my 
knowledge the only thing new on this year’s mini is touch ID no need to pay the 
extra just for that although I am not sure if they offer last year’s mini in 
64GB which is what I would want so have to see. Thanks again.
On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:47 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

 I have the iPad Mini 2 which I'm writing this on. Sound quality far exceeds 
 my expectations compared to my iPhone which is a 4s. The same goes for 
 battery life, however since I use the iPad Mini 2 nearly full time I only get 
 3-4 days compared to when I first had it;: at least two weeks. But that was 
 due to limited use and has nothing to do with the iPad Mini 2 itself. But 
 hey, not bad compared to a Windows laptop which sucks anyway.  I also have a 
 Macbook Pro, late 2011 model and battery life even today is pretty good. 
 Anyway I realize I'm waffling on a bit so will get off my soapbox. Good luck 
 in whatever you decide to get if you get one at all. 
 
 
 
 On 3 Nov 2014, at 06:15, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:
 
 I am going to be checking out the iPad, not sure if it is for me, but had a 
 couple of questions that I doubt I will be able to know from being in the 
 store. I have only had the first generation iPad and I hated it as I felt it 
 was to bulky and since I have no usable vision the screen being the size it 
 was did nothing for me. I am going to check out the newest iPads as well as 
 the iPad mini from last year as if the mini is for me paying for touch ID 
 does not really do much for me. The most important things to me being a 3GS, 
 4S, and now 5S user is sound on the iPad. does anyone know how the quality 
 of sound and how loud it goes compares on the mini and new iPad 2? I have 
 plenty of bluetooth speakers but also want great sound from the iPad and am 
 not sure if there are better sound chips in this year’s model, or speakers 
 built in internally. 
 
 Also does anyone know if the mini has better battery life than the iPad 2 
 that just came out? My main concern is I never lock the screen on my iPhone 
 so I have to charge it multiple times a day. I probably would lock the 
 screen on the iPad, so this might not matter, as I recall the battery life 
 on my first gen iPad was fantastic.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: iPad mini VS iPad 2 sound quality and battery life

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks Michelle. Not sure if what I have is called the iPad Air as I don’t 
think the original iPads were called Air, all I know is it is a brick but the 
battery life was fantastic.
On Nov 3, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Michelle Bernstein michellebbbernst...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I also never manually lock my screen, but keeping the setting to auto lock 
 setting to the lowest option of 2 minutes and recharging the Ipad to close to 
 100% each time,
 I probably need to recharge the Ipad Air 2 or 3 times each week. Of course, 
 it depends on how  much you use the Ipad each day.
 On Monday, November 3, 2014 1:15:59 AM UTC-5, Brian Fischler wrote:
 I am going to be checking out the iPad, not sure if it is for me, but had a 
 couple of questions that I doubt I will be able to know from being in the 
 store. I have only had the first generation iPad and I hated it as I felt it 
 was to bulky and since I have no usable vision the screen being the size it 
 was did nothing for me. I am going to check out the newest iPads as well as 
 the iPad mini from last year as if the mini is for me paying for touch ID 
 does not really do much for me. The most important things to me being a 3GS, 
 4S, and now 5S user is sound on the iPad. does anyone know how the quality of 
 sound and how loud it goes compares on the mini and new iPad 2? I have plenty 
 of bluetooth speakers but also want great sound from the iPad and am not sure 
 if there are better sound chips in this year’s model, or speakers built in 
 internally. 
 
 Also does anyone know if the mini has better battery life than the iPad 2 
 that just came out? My main concern is I never lock the screen on my iPhone 
 so I have to charge it multiple times a day. I probably would lock the screen 
 on the iPad, so this might not matter, as I recall the battery life on my 
 first gen iPad was fantastic. 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: iPad mini VS iPad 2 sound quality and battery life

[Christopher Hallsworth]

You're welcome. I felt a mini briefly Christmas last year and that did 
it for me. Didn't need to hold it or anything but to each their own.


On 03/11/2014 16:44, Brian Fischler wrote:

Thanks so much for your thoughts Christopher as they are helpful. Not sure if I 
am going to make the dive as I want to hold them to see if I will like them 
more than the original iPad. I use my iPhone 5S for everything so am thinking I 
might really enjoy the mini and if I do like the size will probably go with 
last years model which I never do with technology but considering to my 
knowledge the only thing new on this year’s mini is touch ID no need to pay the 
extra just for that although I am not sure if they offer last year’s mini in 
64GB which is what I would want so have to see. Thanks again.
On Nov 3, 2014, at 1:47 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:


I have the iPad Mini 2 which I'm writing this on. Sound quality far exceeds my 
expectations compared to my iPhone which is a 4s. The same goes for battery 
life, however since I use the iPad Mini 2 nearly full time I only get 3-4 days 
compared to when I first had it;: at least two weeks. But that was due to 
limited use and has nothing to do with the iPad Mini 2 itself. But hey, not bad 
compared to a Windows laptop which sucks anyway.  I also have a Macbook Pro, 
late 2011 model and battery life even today is pretty good. Anyway I realize 
I'm waffling on a bit so will get off my soapbox. Good luck in whatever you 
decide to get if you get one at all.




On 3 Nov 2014, at 06:15, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:

I am going to be checking out the iPad, not sure if it is for me, but had a 
couple of questions that I doubt I will be able to know from being in the 
store. I have only had the first generation iPad and I hated it as I felt it 
was to bulky and since I have no usable vision the screen being the size it was 
did nothing for me. I am going to check out the newest iPads as well as the 
iPad mini from last year as if the mini is for me paying for touch ID does not 
really do much for me. The most important things to me being a 3GS, 4S, and now 
5S user is sound on the iPad. does anyone know how the quality of sound and how 
loud it goes compares on the mini and new iPad 2? I have plenty of bluetooth 
speakers but also want great sound from the iPad and am not sure if there are 
better sound chips in this year’s model, or speakers built in internally.

Also does anyone know if the mini has better battery life than the iPad 2 that 
just came out? My main concern is I never lock the screen on my iPhone so I 
have to charge it multiple times a day. I probably would lock the screen on the 
iPad, so this might not matter, as I recall the battery life on my first gen 
iPad was fantastic.

Thanks,

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