Re: Problems with Bluetooth and my Replacement iPhone 5

2013-10-01 Thread Eric Whitten
Try to turn bluetooth off and then on again. That may help. 
On Oct 1, 2013, at 6:14 PM, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:

> Well, I'm beginning to wonder if I've got a bit of a lemon curse. I took my 
> iPhone 5 to the Apple Store today and got it replaced due to the faulty 
> headphone jack and got one with an excellent jack and running iOS 6.1.4. I 
> got it all restored and in the process of checking out various things, I 
> noticed that it is unable to find my bluetooth JBL Flip speaker. This seems 
> an odd thing not to work and I'm wondering if anyone has experienced anything 
> similar with their iDevices. I have bluetooth turned on and it says it's 
> searching but it's not seeing my device which is turned on and just a few 
> inches away. Surely I didn't get a replacement phone with faulty bluetooth 
> and would welcome any suggestions of what else I might try.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Alan Lemly
> 
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Re: iTunes Radio

2013-10-01 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Rose,
I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting with 
the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:

> I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set I
> assume.  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
> 
> When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations. 
> This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at the
> bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre or choose
> from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can double tap on the
> create new station button and then it'll show up beneath the featured
> stations in a section called My Stations.
> 
> On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
>> All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi 
>> something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not 
>> found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like 
>> music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.
>> 
>> I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I 
>> think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Penny Golden
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
>> 
>> Thanks for such a fun experience-letter. My own tastes must not cost 
>> as much. I bought "A horse Named Bill," sung by the poet Carl 
>> Sandburg. Fifty cents. I was tired of trying to find it, even though I 
>> was fairly sure I had one somewhere. Then I looked at some violin 
>> piece played by Rachel Barton Pine of Chicago. It was only 89 cents, 
>> but I didn't buy it. I checbed yet another classical piece which was 
>> 99 cents. But yesterday I got a couple beautiful violin Cd's. One was 
>> one cent and another 2 cents, but each had 4 dollars shipping.
>> Now I know why I could not get to iTunes radio. It is in the music 
>> part, not in iTunes proper. Is that right? Because, for the last few 
>> tries, I could not get to my opera channel. And I had had such fun 
>> voting for what I liked and occasionally saying: Never play this again.
> Why, it is so very arbitry.
>> And so much fun. But when I went to iTunes, my genre stations were not 
>> being found. So you've showed me where they are.
>> I'd better stop. More another time.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alan Paganelli 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:47 pm
>> Subject: iTunes Radio
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I finally got around to playing with iTunes radio which is in the 
>>> music folder of ios 7. With this cold holding on for over a week, 
>>> I've spent a lot of time laying around doing not much of anything so 
>>> I thought this would be a good time to give it a test drive.  I 
>>> should also say that I'm not much of a radio fan.  I don't like other 
>>> folks selecting what sort of music I listen to.  Apparently with this 
>>> app all you need to do is to enter into the text entry field, the 
>>> name of a song, an album, or an artist.  So, I typed in "The Eagles"  
>>> iTunes radio came back and offered me "Eagles Radio"  Wow! I thought 
>>> that meant that I would hear one Eagles tune after another but 
>>> instead, I get great songs that go together.  I suppose there are 
>>> other music apps and services out there but I see what their doing 
>>> here.  They played a song by The-Nitty-Gritty-Dirt-Band called An 
>>> American Dream which I hadn't heard in some time and I decided to add 
>>> it to my collection.  Wow again! a buck twenty
>>   nine USAID.  You could go to the poor house buying songs 1 at a 
>> time.  I wonder if there is anything like ten songs of your choosing 
>> for an album price.  Sense I have no experience with these kinds of 
>> deals, if anybody can give me any kind of a quick look over I'd appreciate
> it.
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>> 
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>> 
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
>>> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  
>>> format
>> formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for 
>> listening!
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RE: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"

2013-10-01 Thread Kevin White MSW
I am also experiencing this issue on my Sprint iPhone 5. Don't know what
causes it, but it is very annoying. 
Kevin
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 4:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"

I'v had the same thing happen on my 4s running ios7.

On 10/1/13, SSEric  wrote:
>
> I just hear "screen lock", without having heard any incoming mail, 
> message, etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including 
> alarms, reminders, etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some 
> correlating event. This seems to occur once or twice a day since the seven
update.
>
> Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 on 
> Verizon, 16 GB black model.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts.
>
> Eric
>
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RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread BroxiBear
Hello, have you got the subscription details for the IOS podcast you
mentioned please?, Billy

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 01 October 2013 7:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hi Cara,

I think there are many millions of users out there who will probably
disagree. I listened to the Today in iOS Podcast tonight and most of the
calls that came in were very positive. Granted, many were about the 5S, but
iOS 7 was also mentioned a lot. One older lady did mention the contrast
thing. Anyhow, I guess we are stuck with it and while Apple may listen and
improve the readability, I doubt they do a 180 and bring the old look back.
My guess is that they will tweek this and improve upon it so let's hope they
will fix it so that our iOS groups list owner doesn't have to be ashamed
*smile*.

The 5S by the way gets pretty awesome reviews and apparently totally kicks
butt in all the benchmark tests.

It is also not to be overlooked that Apple sold 9 million iPhones worldwide
on the first weekend, some of them apparently are still in chanel which
means not yet in the hands of the end user, and they do have a couple of
large new carriers, but given the shortages in many places it does sound
like a pretty impressive number.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly!
lol!

Just because we're female doesn't mean we automatically like bright gaudy
colors or stark nondescript grey on white. So there! lol!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Joseph FreeTech 
wrote:

Actually, I think they were targeting the female population with the new
interface's colors. The person Apple put in charge of the appearance of the
new interface is a woman. Just by the way they described the colors and
overall appearance it right away seemed to me like they were going after new

female iPhone users. The teenagers are probably Android users as young males

are more likely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some point

the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply
wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in.

Joseph

- Original Message -
From: "Ron Pelletier" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


Hi Cara,



Funny you should say that.  I was told The very same thing a couple of days
ago.  My friend told me he is almost ashamed to be seen with his phone.  He
says it looks like a toy that was designed for a kid.  We know that Apple
was going for a look that would please the younger generation but it seems
like they don't even like it.  I was told that the contrast is horrible and
the font is just as bad.



I am total so I don't really care but I have to say that this is not what I
was expecting from Apple.



Ron & Danvers





Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Unfortunately, I must agree with the assertion that 7 is just plain ugly.



A number of sighted friends have described the 'new' look, each in their own
way, (as well as their difficulties with using it) and it just seems to me
that for whatever reason, Apple just essentially abandoned all the upscale
chic look and feel of iOS for what I can only describe as a thrown together
gaudy amateurish look.



For as much polish as the parallax effect has, the rest of the OS is so
overly scaled down as to be just plain ugly.



Just to illustrate one basic example, now what are being read by VO as
buttons, in some cases, are simply a very light grey word on a white
background. There are no borders making this look like a button, no
indication that this item should be tapped to be activated and no really
definite way to tell if the button is active or not. The font is so thin as
to make it difficult to read and as I said, pretty much impossible to
distinguish between being active or inactive.



This is absolutely awful and inconsiderate for people with any kind of
visual difficulties at all. Not to mention just the major change in user
interface paradigm.



I have absolutely no idea what Apple was thinking with this one and quite
frankly, it makes me ashamed.



This is just not

Re: Siri's performance in IOS7

2013-10-01 Thread Eric Whitten
Siri works better then it did on Ios6. I have a 4s

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Chris H  wrote:

Hello all
when i asked where the nearest mcdonalds was, all was well until i asked to 
give me directions. then it stopped dead so had to lock the screen. any ideas?

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

> On 01/10/2013 15:53, Brian Moore wrote:
> yeah, having some of the same issues. sometimes I get feedback and
> sometimes I don't.
> 
> maybe this is a 4s thing but it seemed to work better before the 7.02
> upgrade.
> Brian.
> 
> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
> follow me on twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
> 
>> On 01/10/2013 10:27 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:
>> Well, I'll add in my $.02, as i'm checking e-mail anyway and often
>> feel I need to jump in LOL.
>> 
>> I, too, have been experiencing problems with siri's responsiveness. I
>> am quite the loose-leaf tea addict, so have to set fairly specific
>> timers for my tea to brew. When using IOS6, I could simply say "siri,
>> please set my timer for four minutes and thirty seconds" and she would
>> do it instantly. ever since upgrading, I'll ask siri to perform the
>> same task (politely of course, because I'm a Canadian and that's how
>> we roll), and then i'm usually met by a stoney silence. I follow that
>> up by frantically swiping around the screen, and after a bit more
>> silence, will hear things like "things you can tell me. Ask "Where's
>> Brian?" and not only do I not know Brian, I honestly couldn't give two
>> flying you know what's about where he is at the moment. While this
>> very uninspiring exchange is taking place between siri and myself, my
>> tea is sitting there steeping confusedly, and then I just manually set
>> a timer and try to account for the fight I just had with siri.
>> 
>> What gives?
>> Shermeen
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/30/13, Rose Combs  wrote:
>>> My coworker and driver got a 5C Saturday, Siri was very responsive
>>> compared
>>> to my 4S.  It did have to think a couple of times when she asked it a
>>> question, or used an unacceptable word after it told her it could not
>>> add a
>>> contact to her address book.
>>> 
>>> It was amazing even my Husband's 5 seems slower than her phone but
>>> then she
>>> has no apps but the ones supplied, only had it less than 24 hours and
>>> had
>>> no
>>> clue about apps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Ricardo Walker
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:25 PM
>>> To: viphone
>>> Subject: Re: Siri's performance in IOS7
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This isn't true 100% of the time.  If I tell Siri "Tell Mary I will give
>>> her
>>> a call in an hour."  At least for me, most of the time the message is
>>> read
>>> back.  The times when it isn't, its because VO interrupts it for some
>>> reason.  In this case, I place my finger on the screen, and flick to the
>>> edit field and VO reads the message.  I find the error rate to be on par
>>> with that found in IOS 6,  Maybe a little bit better.  But that isn't
>>> were
>>> Siri is really giving people a lot of headaches though.  Its Siri
>>> actually
>>> processing your requests.  This failure rate is way up in IOS 7.  I
>>> would
>>> say its near the levels when it made its debut on the iPhone 4S.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
 On Sep 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 For those of you using Siri and iOS 7, here are a few questions
>>> specifically related to dictation.
 I understand that Siri no longer reads back the text it has inserted
 when
>>> you do dictation. How then do you efficiently understand whether the
>>> text
>>> that has been inserted is correct? In iOS 6, this is easy because Siri
>>> reads
>>> it back.
 I have found that the error rate is very good in iOS 6. So most of the
>>> time, I don't have to hunt for anything to correct it, making the
>>> read back
>>> by far the most efficient means of knowing if my text is okay.
 So, how is the error rate in iOS 7 compared with that of iOS 6? It
 seems
>>> that there are varying reports on this topic. I use dictation a lot,
>>> such
>>> as
>>> in this message. And I will not upgrade if the ability to use it to
>>> write
>>> longer messages is seriously degraded. Yet one more reason to wait.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:03 AM, "Jerry White"  wrote:
> 
> I have noticed the same thing.  I live in North Carolina, USA, and
> have thought that SIRI has taken a step back in response.  I love the
> automatically listening for a response after SIRI asks a question,
> but the time between asking a question and getting a response is
>>> sometimes large.
> Also, when using dictate in messaging, I sometimes have to move focus
> away from the message pane 

Re: twitter unfollow tool

2013-10-01 Thread Rami

yes, here you go:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/twitfollow-follower-manager/id553726535?mt=8

best regards
On 01/10/2013 04:19 م, James Lockwood wrote:

does anyone know of an app which is compatible with vo that allows you to 
automatically unfollow twitter users who are not following you?




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RE: iTunes Radio

2013-10-01 Thread Rose Combs
Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the problem.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

Hi Rose,
I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting
with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:

> I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set 
> I assume.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
> 
> When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations. 
> This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at 
> the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre 
> or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can 
> double tap on the create new station button and then it'll show up 
> beneath the featured stations in a section called My Stations.
> 
> On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
>> All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi 
>> something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not 
>> found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like 
>> music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.
>> 
>> I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I 
>> think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Penny Golden
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
>> 
>> Thanks for such a fun experience-letter. My own tastes must not cost 
>> as much. I bought "A horse Named Bill," sung by the poet Carl 
>> Sandburg. Fifty cents. I was tired of trying to find it, even though 
>> I was fairly sure I had one somewhere. Then I looked at some violin 
>> piece played by Rachel Barton Pine of Chicago. It was only 89 cents, 
>> but I didn't buy it. I checbed yet another classical piece which was
>> 99 cents. But yesterday I got a couple beautiful violin Cd's. One was 
>> one cent and another 2 cents, but each had 4 dollars shipping.
>> Now I know why I could not get to iTunes radio. It is in the music 
>> part, not in iTunes proper. Is that right? Because, for the last few 
>> tries, I could not get to my opera channel. And I had had such fun 
>> voting for what I liked and occasionally saying: Never play this again.
> Why, it is so very arbitry.
>> And so much fun. But when I went to iTunes, my genre stations were 
>> not being found. So you've showed me where they are.
>> I'd better stop. More another time.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alan Paganelli 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:47 pm
>> Subject: iTunes Radio
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I finally got around to playing with iTunes radio which is in the 
>>> music folder of ios 7. With this cold holding on for over a week, 
>>> I've spent a lot of time laying around doing not much of anything so 
>>> I thought this would be a good time to give it a test drive.  I 
>>> should also say that I'm not much of a radio fan.  I don't like 
>>> other folks selecting what sort of music I listen to.  Apparently 
>>> with this app all you need to do is to enter into the text entry 
>>> field, the name of a song, an album, or an artist.  So, I typed in "The
Eagles"
>>> iTunes radio came back and offered me "Eagles Radio"  Wow! I thought 
>>> that meant that I would hear one Eagles tune after another but 
>>> instead, I get great songs that go together.  I suppose there are 
>>> other music apps and services out there but I see what their doing 
>>> here.  They played a song by The-Nitty-Gritty-Dirt-Band called An 
>>> American Dream which I hadn't heard in some time and I decided to 
>>> add it to my collection.  Wow again! a buck twenty
>>   nine USAID.  You could go to the poor house buying songs 1 at a 
>> time.  I wonder if there is anything like ten songs of your choosing 
>> for an album price.  Sense I have no experience with these kinds of 
>> deals, if anybody can give me any kind of a quick look over I'd 
>> appreciate
> it.
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>> 
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>> 
>>> Please click on:
>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
>>> played on the Y

Re: Audio player for MP3 audio books on IOS devices.

2013-10-01 Thread Brett
Hi,, 

In the sources column, go down to your phone, then tab to the apps check box 
and tick it. Then tab all the way over to the file sharing section. In the 
list, choose the app you want to work with, then choose either the upload or 
download button from the tab key, depending on what you are wanting to do. 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

> On 1 Oct 2013, at 5:48 am, "Joanie Delzer"  wrote:
> 
> Oh so you have to use wi-fi with the Speed Up Pro Player? I like to read 
> books when I’m out. This may not work for me.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robin Christopherson
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 12:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Audio player for MP3 audio books on IOS devices.
>  
> I use CloudBeats which is great too. If links with cloud services such as Box 
> or Dropbox and has a much nicer media player than that built into those apps. 
> Also, if you are listening to a book with multiple MP3 files then, unlike 
> those other apps, it moves seamlessly from one file to the next to give 
> unbroken playback without you having to navigate to the next file and double 
> tap to get it to start playing.
> Also when you come back into CloudBeats it remembers where you were – but 
> this is probably standard behaviour.
> Thanks, Robin.
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RE: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"

2013-10-01 Thread Rose Combs
Depends, no pattern at all, some days I never hear it some days it is every
couple of hours.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eric Whitten
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"

Hi Rose, How often does it do this? I have a 4 s as well.
On Oct 1, 2013, at 6:08 PM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:

> Mine is turned off, my minor problem on a 4S is that when in the 
> locked screen for no reason it will sometimes say "screen locked" and 
> I don't think this is a great idea at work or when I am sleeping.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"
> 
> If your phone turns off because it hasn't been touched for a few 
> minutes go to settings, general, autolock and make sure that it's turned
off.
> 
> On 10/1/13, Rose Combs  wrote:
>> Yes, I hear a sound but nothing seems to have activated it, usually 
>> I'm at work and someone in my office wants to know what that was.
>> Work in a cube farm.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of SSEric
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:08 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"
>> 
>> 
>> I just hear "screen lock", without having heard any incoming mail, 
>> message, etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including 
>> alarms, reminders, etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some 
>> correlating event. This seems to occur once or twice a day since the 
>> seven
> update.
>> 
>> Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 
>> on Verizon, 16 GB black model.
>> 
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>> 
>> Eric
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Re: sound problem

2013-10-01 Thread Bryan Schulz

hi,

it was a one time thing.
if people are truly trained as a tech, they may start with have you done 
...? and maybe give an educated reason of the symptom instead of taking a 
stab with a certain attitude.

Bryan Schulz


- Original Message - 
From: "DJ" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: sound problem



Bryan,

Since you obviously need assistance with your device from time to time, 
why

are you finding it so necessary to respond so rudely to folks who have
reached out to assist you?  Don't you realize that you are burning your
bridges and therefore much less likely to get help in the future.  Most
people don't forget nasty attitudes and ungratefulness such as yours very
quickly.

Just a thought.

DJ


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sound problem

no,

you just didn't read it.
the volume up button without ear buds only worked after holding home and
power then turning it back on.
Bryan Schulz


- Original Message - 
From: "David Chittenden" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: sound problem


No, it was those obvious solutions which offended Bryan so much. He has 
not

yet reported receiving a workable solution. The symptoms he reported,
considering that the obvious solutions were already attempted by himself,
there is a solution which nobody has mentioned. If he finally takes the
iPhone into the Apple store and meets with a genius bar rep, the rep will
most likely know the proper solution. After all, it was one of those techs
who explained that particular problem's solution to me.

I wish him luck. I will not assist him because I do not assist people who
continue in their rudeness and do not apologise for such impolite 
behaviour.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 1 Oct 2013, at 17:10, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

I used to work at IBM, and I heard this story as well. I could also offer
up my own similar stories. Although I think I'm pretty savvy, I've had 
the


light bulb go off a few times when someone mentioned something obvious 
and



that got me thinking to some setting I had changed and then forgot about
or something else that seemed pretty obvious in hindsight.

A few more thoughts on this whole issue.

first, if someone is pretty particular about the suggestions they get 
then



maybe they have better options to get help than post a question to a list
with over 1400 members. Anyone who has been on this list for any length 
of



time knows that we have members from the novice to the experienced. It's
also a list full of people who want to help out and support each other.

A summary of steps that were already tried would have also kept seemingly
obvious and redundant suggestions from being made.

Just using the delete key seems like it would have been more appropriate
than pointing out to the list how much "obvious" suggestions are 
resented.


BTW, I didn't pay attention to the solution but wasn't it something 
pretty



obvious, like powering off the phone or using the volume up keys when the
ear buds weren't plugged in?


On 09/30/2013 10:11 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
I feel the same as you, Christopher. I always welcome all suggestions,
even and especially the obvious ones. When I get frustrated over a
problem, I know that I can too easily forget one of the basic, obvious
solutions.

Many years ago, I studied computer engineering for a couple years. I
ultimately changed to another field, but I will never forget a story 
told



to us by an engineering professor. He worked as a supervisor for a
computer installation and repair company in the 70's. One day, a
technician went out on a call. Half an hour later, the tech called and
asked for assistance, so another tech was dispatched. When my former
professor went out to see what was going on, four techs had been sent. 
He



got there and found the large mainframe open, every board was out with
meters showing proper functioning, and the technicians were very
confused. As he looked behind the extremely large system, he noticed 
that



a power cable was lying next to the socket rather than being plugged in.
So, they plugged the system back in (the power had been unknowingly
kicked out of the socket), and everything started working again 
properly.


I always go back to basics when I am in my correct mind. After all, it 
is



usually one of the basics that we accidentally overlook.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 1 Oct 2013, at 13:33, Christopher Chaltain 
wrote:

I'll try to do the same thing myself, although I may not remember who
appreciates suggestions and who doesn't. For my part, when I ask a
question on list, I'll try to mention what I've already tried, b

Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I don’t think it really matters though.  My entire point was, it doesn’t make 
sense for home to bee in the app switcher if all other apps are closed.  It 
should just take you directly to the home screen since the only thing you can 
do is lock your phone or go to the home screen.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:

> I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program
> on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing
> the home button I can still see why Apple would have made  this icon a
> choice.
> 
> On 10/1/13, Mich  wrote:
>> Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never
>> 
>> got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps
>> in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Rose Combs" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM
>> Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
>> 
>> 
>>> Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else
>>> left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my
>>> devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen.
>>> 
>>> I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite
>>> thing
>>> in IOS 7.  Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem
>>> like eye candy to me.  I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but
>>> no
>>> immediate plans to upgrade today.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Ricardo Walker
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM
>>> To: viphone
>>> Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> All you said is true.  But, that's not what I was getting at.  I was
>>> saying,
>>> why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been
>>> close?
>>> Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the
>>> homescreen
>>> in the app switcher.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>>> 
 Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time.
 Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close
 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that,
 you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on
 app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen,
 then back to the app switcher.
 In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally
 different from iOS 6.
 
 On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> You're right! Didn't think about that. :)
> 
> Very good point and I agree with you.
> 
> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO
> users or not. Now you've got me curious.
> 
> Will be exploring this with sighted friends.
> 
> Thanks and have a good night!
> 
> Cara :)
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker 
>>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have
> been closed?  The app switcher in my opinion, should just close
> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action
>>> left to perform.
> 
> For example, I have 2 apps running.  in the app switcher, I will see
> the 2 apps plus the home screen.  Cool.  But, once I've close those 2
> apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to
> close it and return to the home screen.  So, why then force the user
> to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a
> logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do?
> This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed
> in IOS 7.  Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the
> switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still
> do.  Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc.  But this is no
> longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to
>>> control center.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
>> HI Ricardo,
>> 
>> Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the
>> screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6.
>> 
>> I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can
>> dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the
>> scrub that I know of.
>> 
>> Not sure what this one looks like on t

Re: Bard app

2013-10-01 Thread Jane
BARD Mobile  Two words.

Jane


On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Margaret  wrote:

> 
> 
> Can someone please tell me the proper name for the Bard app so I can search 
> for it in the App Store. I have tried to search for the app but I can't find 
> it. Can I get the Bard app in Australia? 
> 
> Margaret 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: sound problem

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Since this is a list with over a thousand people, don’t you think it would be 
just a good thing to name the steps one has already taken in their original 
post so the person that wants to help doesn’t have to ask, then you reply, then 
they reply, etc.  If anything, it would cut down on list traffic.

JMO.


Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Bryan Schulz  wrote:

> hi,
> 
> it was a one time thing.
> if people are truly trained as a tech, they may start with have you done ...? 
> and maybe give an educated reason of the symptom instead of taking a stab 
> with a certain attitude.
> Bryan Schulz
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "DJ" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:13 PM
> Subject: RE: sound problem
> 
> 
>> Bryan,
>> 
>> Since you obviously need assistance with your device from time to time, why
>> are you finding it so necessary to respond so rudely to folks who have
>> reached out to assist you?  Don't you realize that you are burning your
>> bridges and therefore much less likely to get help in the future.  Most
>> people don't forget nasty attitudes and ungratefulness such as yours very
>> quickly.
>> 
>> Just a thought.
>> 
>> DJ
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Bryan Schulz
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: sound problem
>> 
>> no,
>> 
>> you just didn't read it.
>> the volume up button without ear buds only worked after holding home and
>> power then turning it back on.
>> Bryan Schulz
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "David Chittenden" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: sound problem
>> 
>> 
>> No, it was those obvious solutions which offended Bryan so much. He has not
>> yet reported receiving a workable solution. The symptoms he reported,
>> considering that the obvious solutions were already attempted by himself,
>> there is a solution which nobody has mentioned. If he finally takes the
>> iPhone into the Apple store and meets with a genius bar rep, the rep will
>> most likely know the proper solution. After all, it was one of those techs
>> who explained that particular problem's solution to me.
>> 
>> I wish him luck. I will not assist him because I do not assist people who
>> continue in their rudeness and do not apologise for such impolite behaviour.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 1 Oct 2013, at 17:10, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I used to work at IBM, and I heard this story as well. I could also offer
>>> up my own similar stories. Although I think I'm pretty savvy, I've had the
>> 
>>> light bulb go off a few times when someone mentioned something obvious and
>> 
>>> that got me thinking to some setting I had changed and then forgot about
>>> or something else that seemed pretty obvious in hindsight.
>>> 
>>> A few more thoughts on this whole issue.
>>> 
>>> first, if someone is pretty particular about the suggestions they get then
>> 
>>> maybe they have better options to get help than post a question to a list
>>> with over 1400 members. Anyone who has been on this list for any length of
>> 
>>> time knows that we have members from the novice to the experienced. It's
>>> also a list full of people who want to help out and support each other.
>>> 
>>> A summary of steps that were already tried would have also kept seemingly
>>> obvious and redundant suggestions from being made.
>>> 
>>> Just using the delete key seems like it would have been more appropriate
>>> than pointing out to the list how much "obvious" suggestions are resented.
>>> 
>>> BTW, I didn't pay attention to the solution but wasn't it something pretty
>> 
>>> obvious, like powering off the phone or using the volume up keys when the
>>> ear buds weren't plugged in?
>>> 
 On 09/30/2013 10:11 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
 I feel the same as you, Christopher. I always welcome all suggestions,
 even and especially the obvious ones. When I get frustrated over a
 problem, I know that I can too easily forget one of the basic, obvious
 solutions.
 
 Many years ago, I studied computer engineering for a couple years. I
 ultimately changed to another field, but I will never forget a story told
>> 
 to us by an engineering professor. He worked as a supervisor for a
 computer installation and repair company in the 70's. One day, a
 technician went out on a call. Half an hour later, the tech called and
 asked for assistance, so another tech was dispatched. When my former
 professor went out to see what was going on, four techs had been sent. He
>> 
 got there and found the large mainframe open, every board was out with
 meters showing proper functioning, and the technicians

RE: twitter unfollow tool

2013-10-01 Thread Joe
Hi, is it necessary to upgrade the app to unfollow people?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rami
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: twitter unfollow tool

yes, here you go:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/twitfollow-follower-manager/id553726535?mt=8

best regards
On 01/10/2013 04:19 م, James Lockwood wrote:
> does anyone know of an app which is compatible with vo that allows you to
automatically unfollow twitter users who are not following you?
>
>

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Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again

2013-10-01 Thread Lynda Ingraham
Hi Everyone, 

Before upgrading to IOS7, I turned hints on settings. The letters on the
telephone keypad are gone again. I have checked the settings several times
and turned my phone off. The letters are not coming back. 

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. 

Thank you. 

Lynda 

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RE: How to Play TV Shows Transferred to iPhone

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Lemly
Nicky, you're exactly right that purchased TV shows are under videos. I
would have thought that videos one recorded would be there and TV shows
would be under iTunes, TV Shows. But then I couldn't even remember that my
bluetooth devices had to be re-paired with my replacement phone. That's why
I'm on these lists. Thanks so much for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nicola Sanders
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to Play TV Shows Transferred to iPhone

 

Hi Alan,

 

Try looking in the Videos app on your iPhone.  I'm pretty sure that's where
my purchased TV shows end up.

 

HTH,

 

Nicky

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: 01 October 2013 06:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to Play TV Shows Transferred to iPhone

 

I hate to be thick but I don't find it very intuitive to play a TV show I
just purchased from the iTunes Store and transferred to my iPhone 5 using
the iTunes sync. I figured to play this show I should launch the iTunes app
and then select the TV Shows tab at the bottom of the screen. But then I'm
presented with every TV show known to man and nothing that offers a
selection like shows on this device. Can anyone point me in the right
direction?

 

Thanks.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Lemly
Actually, that is not correct. If an Apple Store happens to have stock with
iOS 6 on it, you can restore a backup to that device and continue to run it
without upgrading to iOS 7. I did it today.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

 

No, this cannot be done. All of Apples replacement and new iPhones are now
running iOS 7, and they cannot be downgraded to the previous version. You
must choose between a faulty headset jack and iOS 7.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

Email: dchitten...@gmail.com

Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

Sent from my iPhone


On 1 Oct 2013, at 6:49, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Alan,

 

Correct, when you try to restore to iOS 6.1.3, a verification is part of
this process and this is where you will most likely get a message that it
cant be done. Your chosen course is best, i.e. find an Apple Store which has
an iPhone 5 on a shelf which still have version 6.1.3 on it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

 

I need some advice from those of you who have dealt with Apple and know a
lot more than I do about IOS versions and Apple's signing of them. I have an
iPhone 5, 64GB that I purchased in February of this year that is running iOS
6.1.4. I'm not saying I'm not ever upgrading to iOS 7 but I'm definitely not
interested in doing so at this time. My problem is that the headphone jack
on my phone is faulty. I use the earpods extensively and I have to fiddle
with the plug every time I plug in the headset until I get the proper volume
coming out of the earpods and get the volume and remote buttons on the
earpods working. I'd say that 90+% of the time when I plug in the earpods,
the volume is lower than it should be and the headset buttons don't work
until I get the connection right. I've already had the earpods replaced once
and this did not help so I'm convinced this is a earphone jack hardware
issue.

 

I would have preferred Apple replacing the phone through the mail but the
senior advisor I spoke with tells me that they can't request the iOS version
it comes with and he's fairly certain it will come with iOS 7. So I'm going
to the Apple Store tomorrow and hoping that any 64GB black iPhone 5's that
they have in stock still have iOS 6.1 on them. I will take my laptop with me
containing a full encrypted backup using iTunes from which I can run a
restore and get my apps and other things on the new phone.

 

I'm curious if Apple had sent me a replacement through the mail with iOS 7
on it and here's where I need help in understanding the iOS installation
process and what I believe I've heard folks on this list call Apple's
signing of it. I take this to mean that even if one has a version of iOS on
their computers, installing that version requires an action and signing or
"blessing" if you will from Apple as part of its installation. The Apple
senior advisor I spoke with didn't seem to understand this and that's why
I'm posting this message. I did download the
iPhone5,1_6.1.4_10B350_Restore.ipsw file about 1am the morning of September
20th from a link provided on this list. This file is about 1GB in size but I
need someone in the know to explain if I could successfully install this on
a new iPhone and what the steps would be. I think I understand that this
can't be done from what I've read posted here.

 

I appreciate anything helpful anyone could post on my issue. What I don't
need is someone trying to convince me why I should just accept iOS 7.
Believe me when I say I've thought extensively about the iOS I want to run
and that I also think Apple could get me a replacement iPhone 5 with iOS
6.1.4 if I talk to the right person.

 

Thanks.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: sound problem

2013-10-01 Thread Bryan Schulz

Hi,

sorry i wasn't detailed enough.
from the beginning, i thought darn, i don't hear anything when the ear buds 
are not plugged in then,

i said hum then,
i moved my right hand to the top of my head then
i scratched my head three times with my first finger then
i moved the same finger over the phone glass then
i checked if the mute switch was pushed down then
i asked someone with vision and checked that the voice settings were on then
thought someone would answer a question without coming off as an ultimate 
expert then

it went downhill from there
and the self appointed experts said go to the apple store.
Bryan Schulz

- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: "viphone" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: sound problem


Hi,

Since this is a list with over a thousand people, don’t you think it would 
be just a good thing to name the steps one has already taken in their 
original post so the person that wants to help doesn’t have to ask, then you 
reply, then they reply, etc.  If anything, it would cut down on list 
traffic.


JMO.


Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Bryan Schulz  wrote:


hi,

it was a one time thing.
if people are truly trained as a tech, they may start with have you done 
...? and maybe give an educated reason of the symptom instead of taking a 
stab with a certain attitude.

Bryan Schulz


- Original Message - From: "DJ" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: sound problem



Bryan,

Since you obviously need assistance with your device from time to time, 
why

are you finding it so necessary to respond so rudely to folks who have
reached out to assist you?  Don't you realize that you are burning your
bridges and therefore much less likely to get help in the future.  Most
people don't forget nasty attitudes and ungratefulness such as yours very
quickly.

Just a thought.

DJ


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sound problem

no,

you just didn't read it.
the volume up button without ear buds only worked after holding home and
power then turning it back on.
Bryan Schulz


- Original Message - From: "David Chittenden" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: sound problem


No, it was those obvious solutions which offended Bryan so much. He has 
not

yet reported receiving a workable solution. The symptoms he reported,
considering that the obvious solutions were already attempted by himself,
there is a solution which nobody has mentioned. If he finally takes the
iPhone into the Apple store and meets with a genius bar rep, the rep will
most likely know the proper solution. After all, it was one of those 
techs

who explained that particular problem's solution to me.

I wish him luck. I will not assist him because I do not assist people who
continue in their rudeness and do not apologise for such impolite 
behaviour.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 1 Oct 2013, at 17:10, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:


I used to work at IBM, and I heard this story as well. I could also 
offer
up my own similar stories. Although I think I'm pretty savvy, I've had 
the


light bulb go off a few times when someone mentioned something obvious 
and



that got me thinking to some setting I had changed and then forgot about
or something else that seemed pretty obvious in hindsight.

A few more thoughts on this whole issue.

first, if someone is pretty particular about the suggestions they get 
then


maybe they have better options to get help than post a question to a 
list
with over 1400 members. Anyone who has been on this list for any length 
of



time knows that we have members from the novice to the experienced. It's
also a list full of people who want to help out and support each other.

A summary of steps that were already tried would have also kept 
seemingly

obvious and redundant suggestions from being made.

Just using the delete key seems like it would have been more appropriate
than pointing out to the list how much "obvious" suggestions are 
resented.


BTW, I didn't pay attention to the solution but wasn't it something 
pretty


obvious, like powering off the phone or using the volume up keys when 
the

ear buds weren't plugged in?


On 09/30/2013 10:11 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
I feel the same as you, Christopher. I always welcome all suggestions,
even and especially the obvious ones. When I get frustrated over a
problem, I know that I can too easily forget one of the basic, obvious
solutions.

Many years ago, I studied computer engineering for a couple years. I
ultimately changed to another field, but I will never forget a story 
told



to us by an engineering professor. He work

RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi,

 

That Apple is downloading unwanted software on your phone is a fact.  Wrong,
I agree with you but you mention that the next thing is that they will
install it.  That is pure speculation in your part.  Why not wait and
refrain from scaring some people needlessly.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ierne
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

 

This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The
iPhone is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a
charger and with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't
getting very far on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is
daft!  But it does appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to
downloading this auto update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie
Lynch seems to have done, that the update will go ahead and install, even
without the OK from the user?  Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if
so.  Spoken as a long-term customer, who started using Apple gear in 1984.

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RE: Usage question for yo.tv

2013-10-01 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Ioana,

I will look at it again and let you know.  I haven't used it in a few weeks
since I haven't had time to watch TV.  I do remember telling it to locate
me.  Then I selected my provider which is Videotron and it came up with all
the channels and all the programs.  It takes you to the current date and
time as soon as you open it.  I do remember that you can set preferred
channels since you probably don't subscribe to all the channels on the grid.
I do remember that you can search for a given program and it will display
all the channels dates and times when it plays.

I'll be in touch off list once I have played around with it again. 

Ron & Danvers


Falling down is part of LIFE...
Getting back up is LIVING...


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Usage question for yo.tv

Hi Ron,


Could you please give me some pointers on or off list about using yo.tv? 
I set my provider, but bound that the app refreshed to often and confused
me. I also did not find a way to customize chanal lign-up. 
Any tips are very welcome. 

Best,


Ioana




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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Eileens Misrahi


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Ierne  wrote:

> This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The iPhone 
> is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a charger and 
> with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't getting very 
> far on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is daft!  But it 
> does appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to downloading this 
> auto update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie Lynch seems to have 
> done, that the update will go ahead and install, even without the OK from the 
> user?  Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if so.  Spoken as a long-term 
> customer, who started using Apple gear in 1984.
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Today was the first time since iOS 7 was launched that I had that annoying 
download. However, this was after I had connected the phone to the computer and 
iTunes. I also received the annoying popup from iTunes to update. This has been 
the only alerts since 9-18-13. HTH.

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Sieghard,

thanks for this!

yes, the 5S sounds pretty sweet! Can't wait to check out the camera and M7.

As far as the iOS 7 UI, no, I sure don't think Apple will do a 180, but it 
would be nice if they can offer some sort of customization which might at least 
harken back to a more contoured, textured iOS 6-esque UI or do something to 
liven up the flat look they have now. :)

I've got to tell you it really does make some 3rd party apps look super ugly! 
Not kidding! lol!

Apple did quite a bit of customization on the UI to get their own apps to look 
like they do. If you use the standard developer tools apps look pretty lousy in 
the latest OS. Previously if one used the standard UI elements when designing 
apps, 3rd party apps would look just as good as Apple's own. Not anymore! lol! 
They basically look like a squared-off child's line drawing. -And not in the 
good way! lol!

Anyway, enough of that.

As I said, I'm looking forward to the camera and M7 coprocessor in the 5S. 
Really want to see how this works to enhance camera and GPS based apps!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Cara,

I think there are many millions of users out there who will probably
disagree. I listened to the Today in iOS Podcast tonight and most of the
calls that came in were very positive. Granted, many were about the 5S, but
iOS 7 was also mentioned a lot. One older lady did mention the contrast
thing. Anyhow, I guess we are stuck with it and while Apple may listen and
improve the readability, I doubt they do a 180 and bring the old look back.
My guess is that they will tweek this and improve upon it so let's hope they
will fix it so that our iOS groups list owner doesn't have to be ashamed
*smile*.

The 5S by the way gets pretty awesome reviews and apparently totally kicks
butt in all the benchmark tests.

It is also not to be overlooked that Apple sold 9 million iPhones worldwide
on the first weekend, some of them apparently are still in chanel which
means not yet in the hands of the end user, and they do have a couple of
large new carriers, but given the shortages in many places it does sound
like a pretty impressive number.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly!
lol!

Just because we're female doesn't mean we automatically like bright gaudy
colors or stark nondescript grey on white. So there! lol!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Joseph FreeTech 
wrote:

Actually, I think they were targeting the female population with the new 
interface's colors. The person Apple put in charge of the appearance of the 
new interface is a woman. Just by the way they described the colors and 
overall appearance it right away seemed to me like they were going after new

female iPhone users. The teenagers are probably Android users as young males

are more likely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some point

the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply 
wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Pelletier" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


Hi Cara,



Funny you should say that.  I was told The very same thing a couple of days
ago.  My friend told me he is almost ashamed to be seen with his phone.  He
says it looks like a toy that was designed for a kid.  We know that Apple
was going for a look that would please the younger generation but it seems
like they don't even like it.  I was told that the contrast is horrible and
the font is just as bad.



I am total so I don't really care but I have to say that this is not what I
was expecting from Apple.



Ron & Danvers





Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Unfortunately, I must agree with the assertion that 7 is just plain ugly.



A number of sighted friends have described the 'new' look, each in their own
way, (as well as their difficulties with using it) and it just seems to me
that for whatever reason, Apple just essentially abandoned all the upscale
chic look and feel of iOS for what I can only describe as a thrown together
gaudy amateurish look.



For as much polish as the parallax effect has, the rest of the OS is so
overly scaled down as to be just plain ugly.



Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't think you're that rare. I don't do it frequently, but 
occasionally I'll just go through and clean out everything in my App 
Switcher. From following the list, I think some people do this 
regularly, plus it's also a frequent suggestion when trouble shooting 
some issue on the phone.


On 10/01/2013 05:23 PM, Ron Miller wrote:

I must be one of the rare ones who do close all apps using App Switcher, then. 
There are times When I want to free up all resources & have everything unloaded.

I find that if I want to clese an app, I open App Switcher, swipe right to the app I want to close & 
flick up once to invoke "close." I can then just double-tap it, and move to the next app to 
close, double-tap and so on. The three-finger flick up, of course works and saves a gesture, but I've 
gotten pretty used to setting to "close" then moving to & double-tapping the item to close.

Best regards,

Ron Miller


On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:

I doubt that most people use the app switcher to close every program
on the phone so even though you can get to the home screen by pressing
the home button I can still see why Apple would have made  this icon a
choice.


On 10/1/13, Mich  wrote:
Hi you can't close the home screen in the app switcher at least I have never

got it to close and I am using a 4s as well I can close all the other apps
in the app switcher but not the home one. from Mich.
- Original Message -
From: "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]



Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else
left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my
devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen.

I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite
thing
in IOS 7.  Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem
like eye candy to me.  I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but
no
immediate plans to upgrade today.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]

Hi,

All you said is true.  But, that's not what I was getting at.  I was
saying,
why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been
close?
Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the
homescreen
in the app switcher.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info


On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua  wrote:

Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time.
Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close
2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that,
you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on
app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen,
then back to the app switcher.
In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally
different from iOS 6.


On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn  wrote:
You're right! Didn't think about that. :)

Very good point and I agree with you.

I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO
users or not. Now you've got me curious.

Will be exploring this with sighted friends.

Thanks and have a good night!

Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker 

wrote:


Hi,

But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have
been closed?  The app switcher in my opinion, should just close
automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action

left to perform.


For example, I have 2 apps running.  in the app switcher, I will see
the 2 apps plus the home screen.  Cool.  But, once I've close those 2
apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to
close it and return to the home screen.  So, why then force the user
to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a
logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do?
This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed
in IOS 7.  Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the
switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still
do.  Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc.  But this is no
longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to

control center.


Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info


On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:

HI Ricardo,

Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the
screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6.

I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can
dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the
scrub that I know of.

Not sure what this one looks like on the screen

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Pablo Morales
let me say it again. If I pay a product, so I am the owner. Why apple has right 
on my property?
I feel something agains the property right here.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Ierne 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 8:40 AM
  Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


  This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The iPhone 
is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a charger and 
with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't getting very far 
on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is daft!  But it does 
appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to downloading this auto 
update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie Lynch seems to have done, 
that the update will go ahead and install, even without the OK from the user?  
Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if so.  Spoken as a long-term 
customer, who started using Apple gear in 1984.

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Cait,

If I were going to get the 5C, I'd definitely get the pink one! :)

IN fact, I wish the 5S came in colors! I actually like the feel of the 5C 
better than the 5S. However, since the 5S has the new camera and M7 
coprocessor, I'm looking at that one.

Yes, I'd assume that if someone didn't like the background they could just 
change it.

Personally I think it's cool that the backgrounds match the colors of the 
phones. Unfortunately, this doesn't translate to 3rd party apps. I wish it did.

My comments in response to Joseph's note were just to say that generalizations 
based on sex really aren't cool. I would get the same color of 5C you did, but 
certainly not every woman might. So that was all.

Anyway, how do you like your 5C so far?

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:49 AM, Cait and Maggie  wrote:

when I bought my new 5C, I got the pink one.  The girl helping me at the store 
told me that the background on the phone matched the actual phone's colour.

So, I guess if you just want a dark background or a plain white one, just get 
the phones in those colours.

I don't know about the 5S and the colour schemes for that one.

If you didn't like the background, can't you just change the wallpaper?

Cait

On 2013-10-01, at 1:07 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly! 
> lol!
> 
> Just because we're female doesn't mean we automatically like bright gaudy 
> colors or stark nondescript grey on white. So there! lol!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Joseph FreeTech  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, I think they were targeting the female population with the new 
> interface's colors. The person Apple put in charge of the appearance of the 
> new interface is a woman. Just by the way they described the colors and 
> overall appearance it right away seemed to me like they were going after new 
> female iPhone users. The teenagers are probably Android users as young males 
> are more likely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some point 
> the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply 
> wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ron Pelletier" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM
> Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
> 
> 
> Hi Cara,
> 
> 
> 
> Funny you should say that.  I was told The very same thing a couple of days
> ago.  My friend told me he is almost ashamed to be seen with his phone.  He
> says it looks like a toy that was designed for a kid.  We know that Apple
> was going for a look that would please the younger generation but it seems
> like they don't even like it.  I was told that the contrast is horrible and
> the font is just as bad.
> 
> 
> 
> I am total so I don't really care but I have to say that this is not what I
> was expecting from Apple.
> 
> 
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Falling down is part of LIFE...
> 
> Getting back up is LIVING...
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cara Quinn
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
> 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I must agree with the assertion that 7 is just plain ugly.
> 
> 
> 
> A number of sighted friends have described the 'new' look, each in their own
> way, (as well as their difficulties with using it) and it just seems to me
> that for whatever reason, Apple just essentially abandoned all the upscale
> chic look and feel of iOS for what I can only describe as a thrown together
> gaudy amateurish look.
> 
> 
> 
> For as much polish as the parallax effect has, the rest of the OS is so
> overly scaled down as to be just plain ugly.
> 
> 
> 
> Just to illustrate one basic example, now what are being read by VO as
> buttons, in some cases, are simply a very light grey word on a white
> background. There are no borders making this look like a button, no
> indication that this item should be tapped to be activated and no really
> definite way to tell if the button is active or not. The font is so thin as
> to make it difficult to read and as I said, pretty much impossible to
> distinguish between being active or inactive.
> 
> 
> 
> This is absolutely awful and inconsiderate for people with any kind of
> visual difficulties at all. Not to mention just the major change in user
> interface paradigm.
> 
> 
> 
> I have absolutely no idea what Apple was thinking with this one and quite
> frankly, it makes me ashamed.
> 
> 
> 
> This is just not cool and I really hope reason once again prevails here.
> 
> 
> 
> apple, please do live up to your excellent standards and turn this one
> around right away so that everyone can enjoy this OS rather than need to
> suffer through it.

Re: sound problem

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain

In looking back on what I said, which was


Sounds like you flipped the mute switch on. Make sure the slider on the side of the phone 
at the top is slid all the way to the front. There's also the Settings -> General -> 
Accessibility -> voice Over On -> Use sound effects option. Make sure this is turned 
on.


I can see where someone might have been bothered by the fact that I 
implied you had inadvertently flipped the mute switch on. I agree I 
could have said something like "Have you checked the mute switch or the 
sound effects settings?" I never meant to take an attitude, but just get 
a few suggestions out there as quickly as possible. The mute switch has 
tripped myself up and others on IOS 6 before.


Also, in your original note, you said


on a iphone 4s v6.x, how do you get all sounds back without using ear buds?
something happened and i only have voice and sounds when ear buds are
plugged in.


You provided absolutely no detail whatsoever on what you had tried. No 
mention, for example, of having already checked the mute switch or the 
sound effects settings.


Finally, this list is a place to go to talk to other iPhone users. It's 
not a trained tech support list. If you're expecting to only get 
responses from trained tech support then you might be more satisfied 
actually contacting Apple tech support.


On 10/01/2013 07:38 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:

hi,

it was a one time thing.
if people are truly trained as a tech, they may start with have you done
...? and maybe give an educated reason of the symptom instead of taking
a stab with a certain attitude.
Bryan Schulz


- Original Message - From: "DJ" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: sound problem



Bryan,

Since you obviously need assistance with your device from time to
time, why
are you finding it so necessary to respond so rudely to folks who have
reached out to assist you?  Don't you realize that you are burning your
bridges and therefore much less likely to get help in the future.  Most
people don't forget nasty attitudes and ungratefulness such as yours very
quickly.

Just a thought.

DJ


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sound problem

no,

you just didn't read it.
the volume up button without ear buds only worked after holding home and
power then turning it back on.
Bryan Schulz


- Original Message - From: "David Chittenden"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: sound problem


No, it was those obvious solutions which offended Bryan so much. He
has not
yet reported receiving a workable solution. The symptoms he reported,
considering that the obvious solutions were already attempted by himself,
there is a solution which nobody has mentioned. If he finally takes the
iPhone into the Apple store and meets with a genius bar rep, the rep will
most likely know the proper solution. After all, it was one of those
techs
who explained that particular problem's solution to me.

I wish him luck. I will not assist him because I do not assist people who
continue in their rudeness and do not apologise for such impolite
behaviour.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 1 Oct 2013, at 17:10, Christopher Chaltain 
wrote:

I used to work at IBM, and I heard this story as well. I could also
offer
up my own similar stories. Although I think I'm pretty savvy, I've
had the



light bulb go off a few times when someone mentioned something
obvious and



that got me thinking to some setting I had changed and then forgot about
or something else that seemed pretty obvious in hindsight.

A few more thoughts on this whole issue.

first, if someone is pretty particular about the suggestions they get
then



maybe they have better options to get help than post a question to a
list
with over 1400 members. Anyone who has been on this list for any
length of



time knows that we have members from the novice to the experienced. It's
also a list full of people who want to help out and support each other.

A summary of steps that were already tried would have also kept
seemingly
obvious and redundant suggestions from being made.

Just using the delete key seems like it would have been more appropriate
than pointing out to the list how much "obvious" suggestions are
resented.

BTW, I didn't pay attention to the solution but wasn't it something
pretty



obvious, like powering off the phone or using the volume up keys when
the
ear buds weren't plugged in?


On 09/30/2013 10:11 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
I feel the same as you, Christopher. I always welcome all suggestions,
even and especially the obvious ones. When I get frustrated over a
problem, I know that I can too easily forget one of the basic, obvious
solutions.

Many years ago, I studied computer engineering for a couple

Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
It's unlikely the software will install automatically since you are
required to accept a license agreement before the installation begins.

On 10/1/13, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Ierne  wrote:
>
>> This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The
>> iPhone is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a
>> charger and with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't
>> getting very far on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is
>> daft!  But it does appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to
>> downloading this auto update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie
>> Lynch seems to have done, that the update will go ahead and install, even
>> without the OK from the user?  Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if
>> so.  Spoken as a long-term customer, who started using Apple gear in
>> 1984.
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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Cara Quinn
Please do keep us up to date.

Rather than speculation, please do let us know what happens with this if you 
would?

Thanks so much!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Ierne  wrote:

This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The iPhone 
is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a charger and 
with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't getting very far 
on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is daft!  But it does 
appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to downloading this auto 
update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie Lynch seems to have done, 
that the update will go ahead and install, even without the OK from the user?  
Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if so.  Spoken as a long-term 
customer, who started using Apple gear in 1984.

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Re: sound problem

2013-10-01 Thread Bryan Schulz

hi,

actually you were fine and a few others had the i'm god slant.
no, i wasn't expecting apple tech staff to be on this list or answer but 
quickly get sharp with those that act like there's nothing they can't solve.
looks like i'll research how much the support plans cost or shoot over to 
the mall next time.

Bryan Schulz


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: sound problem


In looking back on what I said, which was

Sounds like you flipped the mute switch on. Make sure the slider on the 
side of the phone at the top is slid all the way to the front. There's 
also the Settings -> General -> Accessibility -> voice Over On -> Use 
sound effects option. Make sure this is turned on.


I can see where someone might have been bothered by the fact that I
implied you had inadvertently flipped the mute switch on. I agree I
could have said something like "Have you checked the mute switch or the
sound effects settings?" I never meant to take an attitude, but just get
a few suggestions out there as quickly as possible. The mute switch has
tripped myself up and others on IOS 6 before.

Also, in your original note, you said

on a iphone 4s v6.x, how do you get all sounds back without using ear 
buds?

something happened and i only have voice and sounds when ear buds are
plugged in.


You provided absolutely no detail whatsoever on what you had tried. No
mention, for example, of having already checked the mute switch or the
sound effects settings.

Finally, this list is a place to go to talk to other iPhone users. It's
not a trained tech support list. If you're expecting to only get
responses from trained tech support then you might be more satisfied
actually contacting Apple tech support.

On 10/01/2013 07:38 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:

hi,

it was a one time thing.
if people are truly trained as a tech, they may start with have you done
...? and maybe give an educated reason of the symptom instead of taking
a stab with a certain attitude.
Bryan Schulz


- Original Message - From: "DJ" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: sound problem



Bryan,

Since you obviously need assistance with your device from time to
time, why
are you finding it so necessary to respond so rudely to folks who have
reached out to assist you?  Don't you realize that you are burning your
bridges and therefore much less likely to get help in the future.  Most
people don't forget nasty attitudes and ungratefulness such as yours very
quickly.

Just a thought.

DJ


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Bryan Schulz
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sound problem

no,

you just didn't read it.
the volume up button without ear buds only worked after holding home and
power then turning it back on.
Bryan Schulz


- Original Message - From: "David Chittenden"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: sound problem


No, it was those obvious solutions which offended Bryan so much. He
has not
yet reported receiving a workable solution. The symptoms he reported,
considering that the obvious solutions were already attempted by himself,
there is a solution which nobody has mentioned. If he finally takes the
iPhone into the Apple store and meets with a genius bar rep, the rep will
most likely know the proper solution. After all, it was one of those
techs
who explained that particular problem's solution to me.

I wish him luck. I will not assist him because I do not assist people who
continue in their rudeness and do not apologise for such impolite
behaviour.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 1 Oct 2013, at 17:10, Christopher Chaltain 
wrote:

I used to work at IBM, and I heard this story as well. I could also
offer
up my own similar stories. Although I think I'm pretty savvy, I've
had the



light bulb go off a few times when someone mentioned something
obvious and



that got me thinking to some setting I had changed and then forgot about
or something else that seemed pretty obvious in hindsight.

A few more thoughts on this whole issue.

first, if someone is pretty particular about the suggestions they get
then



maybe they have better options to get help than post a question to a
list
with over 1400 members. Anyone who has been on this list for any
length of



time knows that we have members from the novice to the experienced. It's
also a list full of people who want to help out and support each other.

A summary of steps that were already tried would have also kept
seemingly
obvious and redundant suggestions from being made.

Just using the delete key seems like it would have been more appropriate
than pointing out to the list how much "obvious" suggestions are
resented.

BTW, I didn't pay attention to the solution but wasn't it s

Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I could have sworn I've heard those letters since upgrading to IOS 7, 
but you're right, I'm not hearing them now, and I do have hints turned 
on in my voiceOver settings.


On 10/01/2013 08:01 PM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Before upgrading to IOS7, I turned hints on settings. The letters on the
telephone keypad are gone again. I have checked the settings several times
and turned my phone off. The letters are not coming back.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Lynda



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Re: iTunes Radio

2013-10-01 Thread Cara Quinn
HI Rose and All,

Try this;

Go into iTunes Radio on your Mac and interact with the Featured Stations Area. 
Navigate with VO, to the next Featured Stations area you find, and interact 
with it as well.

Once in this area, just use the plain left and right arrows to navigate the 
stations. I've found that though many of them say dimmed, when you navigate 
back through them once again, they will read properly. This seems like it may 
be a VO issue.

Hope this works for you. Let me know! :)

Have a great night!

Cara :)
On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:

Well, I am glad I am not the only one, but sorry you are having the problem.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes Radio

Hi Rose,
I see probably the same four stations oasyou. I'm using a Mac, interacting
with the grid, but all I see are four stations. Weird.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 5:57 AM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:

> I see four stations, none of which appeal to me, all for the teen set 
> I assume.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
> 
> When you go into iTunes Radio you'll see the list of featured stations. 
> This is about 20 or so. If you click on the add new station button at 
> the bottom, you'll get a chance to search for a artist, song or genre 
> or choose from a list of genres. Once you find what you want you can 
> double tap on the create new station button and then it'll show up 
> beneath the featured stations in a section called My Stations.
> 
> On 09/29/2013 07:30 AM, Rose Combs wrote:
>> All I can see on iTunes radio is something about top 100 and Pepsi 
>> something and if they have other stations on the phone I have not 
>> found them, I did in iTunes on the computer once, but I don't like 
>> music playing out of the same speakers as Jaws, too confusing.
>> 
>> I don't like much of what I heard on the phone, showing my age I 
>> think, not into wrap or screaming or words I cannot understand.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Penny Golden
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iTunes Radio
>> 
>> Thanks for such a fun experience-letter. My own tastes must not cost 
>> as much. I bought "A horse Named Bill," sung by the poet Carl 
>> Sandburg. Fifty cents. I was tired of trying to find it, even though 
>> I was fairly sure I had one somewhere. Then I looked at some violin 
>> piece played by Rachel Barton Pine of Chicago. It was only 89 cents, 
>> but I didn't buy it. I checbed yet another classical piece which was
>> 99 cents. But yesterday I got a couple beautiful violin Cd's. One was 
>> one cent and another 2 cents, but each had 4 dollars shipping.
>> Now I know why I could not get to iTunes radio. It is in the music 
>> part, not in iTunes proper. Is that right? Because, for the last few 
>> tries, I could not get to my opera channel. And I had had such fun 
>> voting for what I liked and occasionally saying: Never play this again.
> Why, it is so very arbitry.
>> And so much fun. But when I went to iTunes, my genre stations were 
>> not being found. So you've showed me where they are.
>> I'd better stop. More another time.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alan Paganelli 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:47 pm
>> Subject: iTunes Radio
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I finally got around to playing with iTunes radio which is in the 
>>> music folder of ios 7. With this cold holding on for over a week, 
>>> I've spent a lot of time laying around doing not much of anything so 
>>> I thought this would be a good time to give it a test drive.  I 
>>> should also say that I'm not much of a radio fan.  I don't like 
>>> other folks selecting what sort of music I listen to.  Apparently 
>>> with this app all you need to do is to enter into the text entry 
>>> field, the name of a song, an album, or an artist.  So, I typed in "The
Eagles"
>>> iTunes radio came back and offered me "Eagles Radio"  Wow! I thought 
>>> that meant that I would hear one Eagles tune after another but 
>>> instead, I get great songs that go together.  I suppose there are 
>>> other music apps and services out there but I see what their doing 
>>> here.  They played a song by The-Nitty-Gritty-Dirt-Band called An 
>>> American Dream which I hadn't heard in some time and I decided to 
>>> add it to my collection.  Wow again! a buck twenty
>>  nine USAID.  You could go to the poor house buying songs 1 at a 
>> time.  I wonder if there is anything like ten songs of your 

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Joseph FreeTech
How cute and girly. ()Smile). I'm sure lots of women feel that way too. Not 
all women of course, but lots of them or else Apple would not have chosen 
this color out of the possible millions.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: "Cara Quinn" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


Hi Cait,

If I were going to get the 5C, I'd definitely get the pink one! :)

IN fact, I wish the 5S came in colors! I actually like the feel of the 5C 
better than the 5S. However, since the 5S has the new camera and M7 
coprocessor, I'm looking at that one.

Yes, I'd assume that if someone didn't like the background they could just 
change it.

Personally I think it's cool that the backgrounds match the colors of the 
phones. Unfortunately, this doesn't translate to 3rd party apps. I wish it 
did.

My comments in response to Joseph's note were just to say that 
generalizations based on sex really aren't cool. I would get the same color 
of 5C you did, but certainly not every woman might. So that was all.

Anyway, how do you like your 5C so far?

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:49 AM, Cait and Maggie  
wrote:

when I bought my new 5C, I got the pink one.  The girl helping me at the 
store told me that the background on the phone matched the actual phone's 
colour.

So, I guess if you just want a dark background or a plain white one, just 
get the phones in those colours.

I don't know about the 5S and the colour schemes for that one.

If you didn't like the background, can't you just change the wallpaper?

Cait

On 2013-10-01, at 1:07 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still 
> ugly! lol!
>
> Just because we're female doesn't mean we automatically like bright gaudy 
> colors or stark nondescript grey on white. So there! lol!
>
> Smiles,
>
> Cara :)
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Joseph FreeTech  
> wrote:
>
> Actually, I think they were targeting the female population with the new
> interface's colors. The person Apple put in charge of the appearance of 
> the
> new interface is a woman. Just by the way they described the colors and
> overall appearance it right away seemed to me like they were going after 
> new
> female iPhone users. The teenagers are probably Android users as young 
> males
> are more likely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some 
> point
> the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply
> wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in.
>
> Joseph
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ron Pelletier" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM
> Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 
> 6
> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>
>
> Hi Cara,
>
>
>
> Funny you should say that.  I was told The very same thing a couple of 
> days
> ago.  My friend told me he is almost ashamed to be seen with his phone. 
> He
> says it looks like a toy that was designed for a kid.  We know that Apple
> was going for a look that would please the younger generation but it seems
> like they don't even like it.  I was told that the contrast is horrible 
> and
> the font is just as bad.
>
>
>
> I am total so I don't really care but I have to say that this is not what 
> I
> was expecting from Apple.
>
>
>
> Ron & Danvers
>
>
>
>
>
> Falling down is part of LIFE...
>
> Getting back up is LIVING...
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cara Quinn
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 
> 6
> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, I must agree with the assertion that 7 is just plain ugly.
>
>
>
> A number of sighted friends have described the 'new' look, each in their 
> own
> way, (as well as their difficulties with using it) and it just seems to me
> that for whatever reason, Apple just essentially abandoned all the upscale
> chic look and feel of iOS for what I can only describe as a thrown 
> together
> gaudy amateurish look.
>
>
>
> For as much polish as the parallax effect has, the rest of the OS is so
> overly scaled down as to be just plain ugly.
>
>
>
> Just to illustrate one basic example, now what are being read by VO as
> buttons, in some cases, are simply a very light grey word on a white
> background. There are no borders making this look like a button, no
> indication that this item should be tapped to be activated and no really
> definite way to tell if the button is active or not. The font is so thin 
> as
> to make it difficult to read and as I said, pretty much impossible to
> distinguish between being active or inactive.
>
>
>
> This is absolutely awful and inconsiderate for people with any kind of
> visual difficulties at all. Not to mention just the major change in user
> i

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Mike Reiser
just got the 5S tonight. It's performing pretty well so far. I do notice some 
glitching us on the screen, but I guess I'll just have to learn how to swipe 
differently or something. Dictation does seem a lot quicker. It also seems to 
get more things correctly. I do notice that if I have speakers plugged in, that 
seems to mess up the dictation. Is this normal on other iPhones, or is this 
unique to the 5S. Thanks,
 

Mike

> On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Cait,
> 
> If I were going to get the 5C, I'd definitely get the pink one! :)
> 
> IN fact, I wish the 5S came in colors! I actually like the feel of the 5C 
> better than the 5S. However, since the 5S has the new camera and M7 
> coprocessor, I'm looking at that one.
> 
> Yes, I'd assume that if someone didn't like the background they could just 
> change it.
> 
> Personally I think it's cool that the backgrounds match the colors of the 
> phones. Unfortunately, this doesn't translate to 3rd party apps. I wish it 
> did.
> 
> My comments in response to Joseph's note were just to say that 
> generalizations based on sex really aren't cool. I would get the same color 
> of 5C you did, but certainly not every woman might. So that was all.
> 
> Anyway, how do you like your 5C so far?
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:49 AM, Cait and Maggie  wrote:
> 
> when I bought my new 5C, I got the pink one.  The girl helping me at the 
> store told me that the background on the phone matched the actual phone's 
> colour.
> 
> So, I guess if you just want a dark background or a plain white one, just get 
> the phones in those colours.
> 
> I don't know about the 5S and the colour schemes for that one.
> 
> If you didn't like the background, can't you just change the wallpaper?
> 
> Cait
> 
>> On 2013-10-01, at 1:07 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly! 
>> lol!
>> 
>> Just because we're female doesn't mean we automatically like bright gaudy 
>> colors or stark nondescript grey on white. So there! lol!
>> 
>> Smiles,
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Joseph FreeTech  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, I think they were targeting the female population with the new 
>> interface's colors. The person Apple put in charge of the appearance of the 
>> new interface is a woman. Just by the way they described the colors and 
>> overall appearance it right away seemed to me like they were going after new 
>> female iPhone users. The teenagers are probably Android users as young males 
>> are more likely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some point 
>> the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply 
>> wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in.
>> 
>> Joseph
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Ron Pelletier" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM
>> Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
>> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Cara,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Funny you should say that.  I was told The very same thing a couple of days
>> ago.  My friend told me he is almost ashamed to be seen with his phone.  He
>> says it looks like a toy that was designed for a kid.  We know that Apple
>> was going for a look that would please the younger generation but it seems
>> like they don't even like it.  I was told that the contrast is horrible and
>> the font is just as bad.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am total so I don't really care but I have to say that this is not what I
>> was expecting from Apple.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ron & Danvers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Falling down is part of LIFE...
>> 
>> Getting back up is LIVING...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Cara Quinn
>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
>> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I must agree with the assertion that 7 is just plain ugly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A number of sighted friends have described the 'new' look, each in their own
>> way, (as well as their difficulties with using it) and it just seems to me
>> that for whatever reason, Apple just essentially abandoned all the upscale
>> chic look and feel of iOS for what I can only describe as a thrown together
>> gaudy amateurish look.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For as much polish as the parallax effect has, the rest of the OS is so
>> overly scaled down as to be just plain ugly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just to illustrate one basic example, now what are being read by VO as
>> buttons, in some cases, are simply a very light grey word on a white
>> background. There are no borders making this look like a button, no
>> indication that this item should be tapped to be activated and no really
>> definite way to tell if the button is active or not. The font is so thin as
>> to make it diffi

Re: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

no need.  They will see nothing.  Whatever is happening, the screen isn’t 
turning on so there will be nothing for them to see.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Gadget Girl  wrote:

> Hi.  This is happening on my iPad running IOS 7 as well.  I put the screen 
> lock to never, turned it off, and put it on the table.  About 5 minutes, it 
> said screen locked.  I'm going to get a sighted person to watch it so they 
> can let me know what's going on.  
> 
> Regards,
> Anita 
> also known as "Gadget Girl".  Sent via my Apple gadget.  Apple, Take a bite, 
> Express yourself!
> 
> On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:07 AM, SSEric  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I just hear "screen lock", without having heard any incoming mail, message, 
>> etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including alarms, reminders, 
>> etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some correlating event. This seems to 
>> occur once or twice a day since the seven update.
>> 
>> Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 on 
>> Verizon, 16 GB black model.
>> 
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>> 
>> Eric
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Re: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

It only happens when playing audio content when you change the volume.  For 
some reason, Voiceover thinks the screen is unlocked when you do this so, after 
a minute or so, it will say screen locked.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:

> I have this happen when playing any audio content.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 1:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"
> 
> I'v had the same thing happen on my 4s running ios7.
> 
> On 10/1/13, SSEric  wrote:
>> 
>> I just hear "screen lock", without having heard any incoming mail, message,
>> etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including alarms, reminders,
>> etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some correlating event. This seems to
>> occur once or twice a day since the seven update.
>> 
>> Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 on
>> Verizon, 16 GB black model.
>> 
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
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Re: Gmail access issue on 5s

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Yup.  Just wanted to add, another bad part about this is no more push for Mail 
if you are setting up an exchange account with gmail.

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi again,
> 
> OK, sorry, I totally overlooked that you said you were trying to setup gmail
> using exchange. Google has done away with exchange support and you will have
> to to use the proper "Gmail" account type. This will use IMAP for mail and
> where before iOS 7 you had to set up a separate CardDAV account for Google
> Contacts, you  can now simply enable both mail and contacts and it will
> work.
> 
> If you want to know more about this, just google "exchange support for
> gmail" or something like that and you will find lots of information.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sachin Pavithran
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Gmail access issue on 5s
> 
> Hello all,  I apologize in advance if this has been already covered before.
> I just got my 5s setup with my Gmail account using the exchange option. And
> for some reason the mail does not work.  It keeps saying connection to the
> server failed.  I had this working fine on my 4s with the iOS 7 and stop
> working after I switched over to the 5s.  Any guidance would be much
> appreciated.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
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Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Its hard to say it was for nothing.  I mean, NLS did issue the statement.  It’s 
not like some blind person just made it all up.  lol.  Now, I didn’t treat it 
like the sky was falling, and I now needed to download the entire catalog but, 
I think the warning, and expectation of no service was valid.

JMO.

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On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:51 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:

> It's interesting that again the blind community feaks out for nothing.
> As of this morning the sight worked just fine.
> 
> On 10/1/13, Patti Johnson  wrote:
>> I had to go to a meeting last night, fully intending on coming home and
>> downloading some books that I had found in the new listings.
>> Well I forgot to do that, so when I got up this morning I thought, well
>> that's that, I can't  get those books.
>> But I was able to get them.
>> So I wonder did we get a reprieve or since it was yesterday's books is
>> that why I could get them.  At any rate I am glad I was successful in
>> getting the ones I wanted.
>> Patti
>> 
>> On 9/30/2013 11:07 PM, eric oyen wrote:
>>> This is a major reason why a single app on an iPhone (like BARD) is such a
>>> not so nice idea. In order to read any books from the NLS, the app
>>> authenticates with the NLS servers. If they are shut down, so is your
>>> ability to read. THis is why I prefer the use of both my Braille Sense and
>>> my Victor Reader Stream. With these and a few ram sticks full of books, I
>>> can be set for just about any contingency.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Marianne Denning wrote:
>>> 
 --
 I did a little research and copied this information directly from the
 home page of the Library of Congress.  If you have downloaded books
 onto your IDevice you should be fine but if they are in your wish list
 you probably won't be able to access them.
 
 
 News from the Library of Congress
 
 September 27, 2013
 
 Advisory: Possible Federal Shutdown
 
 In the event of a temporary shutdown of the federal government,
 beginning Tuesday, October 1, all Library of Congress buildings will
 close to the public and researchers. All public events will be
 cancelled and web sites will be inaccessible.
 
 
 Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
 Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
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Re: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

2013-10-01 Thread David Chittenden
That is good to know. Thank you, I stand corrected.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Oct 2013, at 14:19, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:
> 
> Actually, that is not correct. If an Apple Store happens to have stock with 
> iOS 6 on it, you can restore a backup to that device and continue to run it 
> without upgrading to iOS 7. I did it today.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Chittenden
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7
>  
> No, this cannot be done. All of Apples replacement and new iPhones are now 
> running iOS 7, and they cannot be downgraded to the previous version. You 
> must choose between a faulty headset jack and iOS 7.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 1 Oct 2013, at 6:49, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>>  
>> Correct, when you try to restore to iOS 6.1.3, a verification is part of 
>> this process and this is where you will most likely get a message that it 
>> cant be done. Your chosen course is best, i.e. find an Apple Store which has 
>> an iPhone 5 on a shelf which still have version 6.1.3 on it.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7
>>  
>> I need some advice from those of you who have dealt with Apple and know a 
>> lot more than I do about IOS versions and Apple's signing of them. I have an 
>> iPhone 5, 64GB that I purchased in February of this year that is running iOS 
>> 6.1.4. I'm not saying I'm not ever upgrading to iOS 7 but I'm definitely not 
>> interested in doing so at this time. My problem is that the headphone jack 
>> on my phone is faulty. I use the earpods extensively and I have to fiddle 
>> with the plug every time I plug in the headset until I get the proper volume 
>> coming out of the earpods and get the volume and remote buttons on the 
>> earpods working. I'd say that 90+% of the time when I plug in the earpods, 
>> the volume is lower than it should be and the headset buttons don't work 
>> until I get the connection right. I've already had the earpods replaced once 
>> and this did not help so I'm convinced this is a earphone jack hardware 
>> issue.
>>  
>> I would have preferred Apple replacing the phone through the mail but the 
>> senior advisor I spoke with tells me that they can't request the iOS version 
>> it comes with and he's fairly certain it will come with iOS 7. So I'm going 
>> to the Apple Store tomorrow and hoping that any 64GB black iPhone 5's that 
>> they have in stock still have iOS 6.1 on them. I will take my laptop with me 
>> containing a full encrypted backup using iTunes from which I can run a 
>> restore and get my apps and other things on the new phone.
>>  
>> I'm curious if Apple had sent me a replacement through the mail with iOS 7 
>> on it and here's where I need help in understanding the iOS installation 
>> process and what I believe I've heard folks on this list call Apple's 
>> signing of it. I take this to mean that even if one has a version of iOS on 
>> their computers, installing that version requires an action and signing or 
>> "blessing" if you will from Apple as part of its installation. The Apple 
>> senior advisor I spoke with didn't seem to understand this and that's why 
>> I'm posting this message. I did download the 
>> iPhone5,1_6.1.4_10B350_Restore.ipsw file about 1am the morning of September 
>> 20th from a link provided on this list. This file is about 1GB in size but I 
>> need someone in the know to explain if I could successfully install this on 
>> a new iPhone and what the steps would be. I think I understand that this 
>> can't be done from what I've read posted here.
>>  
>> I appreciate anything helpful anyone could post on my issue. What I don't 
>> need is someone trying to convince me why I should just accept iOS 7. 
>> Believe me when I say I've thought extensively about the iOS I want to run 
>> and that I also think Apple could get me a replacement iPhone 5 with iOS 
>> 6.1.4 if I talk to the right person.
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
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Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-01 Thread Rob

Are you transfering a Bard book?
MP3 files want work. and only try one zipped bard book at a time.

On 10/1/2013 6:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
Here are my steps

After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the download
section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want
I then tap share  then "open in" and chose bard mobile which brings up the
bard mobile screen
but I am not finding the new book.  What have I forgotten?  I thought I
remembered seeing a progress bar the first time when it worked but not this
time.
***
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matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message -
From: "Rob" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.

I use a free app called UbiDisk.
Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.

It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu allowing
you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then choose
easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.

UbiDisk is great and has many uses!

http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-easypush
Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
its very easy and convenient.

Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
iPhone, iPod or iPad.
On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
press the applications key
choose send with easy push
the easy push window will open.
the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
then your iPhone will appear on the list.
select it and press enter.
your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
tap on accept to start the transfer
when transfer is finished, tap on done.
Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
Downloads folder if you used the easy push.

right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
button. double tap to open it
then look for the action button,
then choose open in
Bard will be on that list.
good luck!

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
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Status Report crash using IOS7.02

2013-10-01 Thread Carol Pearson
Hi all,

I've just used Status Report for the first time since upgrading from Ios6 (now 
using 7,02) and encountered a complete shutdown when adding a tweet to my 
Favorites. When going back into the app, i needed to refresh as my recent 
messages had disappeared.u

Anyone else encountered similar behaviour with this app?

 

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RE: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again

2013-10-01 Thread Ray T. Mahorney
when I upgraded to IOS7 the alphabet went.  What I have noticed are extra 
sounds and I've wondered
why there are these extra sounds?


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 02:43
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again

I could have sworn I've heard those letters since upgrading to IOS 7, but 
you're right, I'm not
hearing them now, and I do have hints turned on in my voiceOver settings.

On 10/01/2013 08:01 PM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Before upgrading to IOS7, I turned hints on settings. The letters on 
> the telephone keypad are gone again. I have checked the settings 
> several times and turned my phone off. The letters are not coming back.
>
> Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Lynda
>

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Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I suspect the extra sounds are because Apple implemented containers on 
the iPhone. containers are just groups of like objects, and you now get 
a little chirp when you move from one container to another. For example, 
when you move into or out of the dock at the bottom of the screen or 
into or out of the virtual keybaord.


On 10/01/2013 10:53 PM, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:

when I upgraded to IOS7 the alphabet went.  What I have noticed are extra 
sounds and I've wondered
why there are these extra sounds?


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 02:43
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again

I could have sworn I've heard those letters since upgrading to IOS 7, but 
you're right, I'm not
hearing them now, and I do have hints turned on in my voiceOver settings.

On 10/01/2013 08:01 PM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Before upgrading to IOS7, I turned hints on settings. The letters on
the telephone keypad are gone again. I have checked the settings
several times and turned my phone off. The letters are not coming back.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Lynda



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Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain
and I did grab a few extra books on Monday, both to my iPhone and my PC, 
to make sure I have enough books to get me through the shutdown. I for 
one, did appreciate the heads up.


On 10/01/2013 10:06 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

Its hard to say it was for nothing.  I mean, NLS did issue the statement.  It’s 
not like some blind person just made it all up.  lol.  Now, I didn’t treat it 
like the sky was falling, and I now needed to download the entire catalog but, 
I think the warning, and expectation of no service was valid.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
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www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:51 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:


It's interesting that again the blind community feaks out for nothing.
As of this morning the sight worked just fine.

On 10/1/13, Patti Johnson  wrote:

I had to go to a meeting last night, fully intending on coming home and
downloading some books that I had found in the new listings.
Well I forgot to do that, so when I got up this morning I thought, well
that's that, I can't  get those books.
But I was able to get them.
So I wonder did we get a reprieve or since it was yesterday's books is
that why I could get them.  At any rate I am glad I was successful in
getting the ones I wanted.
Patti

On 9/30/2013 11:07 PM, eric oyen wrote:

This is a major reason why a single app on an iPhone (like BARD) is such a
not so nice idea. In order to read any books from the NLS, the app
authenticates with the NLS servers. If they are shut down, so is your
ability to read. THis is why I prefer the use of both my Braille Sense and
my Victor Reader Stream. With these and a few ram sticks full of books, I
can be set for just about any contingency.

-eric

On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Marianne Denning wrote:


--
I did a little research and copied this information directly from the
home page of the Library of Congress.  If you have downloaded books
onto your IDevice you should be fine but if they are in your wish list
you probably won't be able to access them.


News from the Library of Congress

September 27, 2013

Advisory: Possible Federal Shutdown

In the event of a temporary shutdown of the federal government,
beginning Tuesday, October 1, all Library of Congress buildings will
close to the public and researchers. All public events will be
cancelled and web sites will be inaccessible.


Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053

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Phone Not Ringing In Locked Screen

2013-10-01 Thread Desi Noller
Good Evening!  My husband has been missing some calls lately, and we were 
perplexed as to why.  He is running iOS 7 on an iPhone 4S.  Anyway, what we 
discovered is that when his screen is locked, his calls seem to be going 
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Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Cheryl Homiak
It certainly wasn't for nothing. The bard site is down now and the message on 
the site says that Library of Congress events are canceled and websites are 
inaccessible except for a couple of legislative ones.

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On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:06 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Its hard to say it was for nothing.  I mean, NLS did issue the statement.  
> It’s not like some blind person just made it all up.  lol.  Now, I didn’t 
> treat it like the sky was falling, and I now needed to download the entire 
> catalog but, I think the warning, and expectation of no service was valid.
> 
> JMO.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:51 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:
> 
>> It's interesting that again the blind community feaks out for nothing.
>> As of this morning the sight worked just fine.
>> 
>> On 10/1/13, Patti Johnson  wrote:
>>> I had to go to a meeting last night, fully intending on coming home and
>>> downloading some books that I had found in the new listings.
>>> Well I forgot to do that, so when I got up this morning I thought, well
>>> that's that, I can't  get those books.
>>> But I was able to get them.
>>> So I wonder did we get a reprieve or since it was yesterday's books is
>>> that why I could get them.  At any rate I am glad I was successful in
>>> getting the ones I wanted.
>>> Patti
>>> 
>>> On 9/30/2013 11:07 PM, eric oyen wrote:
 This is a major reason why a single app on an iPhone (like BARD) is such a
 not so nice idea. In order to read any books from the NLS, the app
 authenticates with the NLS servers. If they are shut down, so is your
 ability to read. THis is why I prefer the use of both my Braille Sense and
 my Victor Reader Stream. With these and a few ram sticks full of books, I
 can be set for just about any contingency.
 
 -eric
 
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Marianne Denning wrote:
 
> --
> I did a little research and copied this information directly from the
> home page of the Library of Congress.  If you have downloaded books
> onto your IDevice you should be fine but if they are in your wish list
> you probably won't be able to access them.
> 
> 
> News from the Library of Congress
> 
> September 27, 2013
> 
> Advisory: Possible Federal Shutdown
> 
> In the event of a temporary shutdown of the federal government,
> beginning Tuesday, October 1, all Library of Congress buildings will
> close to the public and researchers. All public events will be
> cancelled and web sites will be inaccessible.
> 
> 
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> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
> (513) 607-6053
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Re: Alphabet Gone On Telephone Keypad Again

2013-10-01 Thread David Chittenden
I also confirm your findings. I am running an iPhone 5 with iOS version 7.0.2.

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Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Oct 2013, at 15:42, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I could have sworn I've heard those letters since upgrading to IOS 7, but 
> you're right, I'm not hearing them now, and I do have hints turned on in my 
> voiceOver settings.
> 
>> On 10/01/2013 08:01 PM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> Before upgrading to IOS7, I turned hints on settings. The letters on the
>> telephone keypad are gone again. I have checked the settings several times
>> and turned my phone off. The letters are not coming back.
>> 
>> Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Lynda
>> 
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Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-01 Thread Rob

You are right,
the UbiDisk action button is now the share button.
I believe we can not import any books while Bard is shut down.
I upgraded to the iPhone 5 S and was very sad to see that none of my 
downloaded books was restored from my backup through iTunes.
so unless someone has any more info, it seems the bard app is no good 
without the connection to its home base!


On 10/1/2013 6:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
Here are my steps

After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the download
section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want
I then tap share  then "open in" and chose bard mobile which brings up the
bard mobile screen
but I am not finding the new book.  What have I forgotten?  I thought I
remembered seeing a progress bar the first time when it worked but not this
time.
***
   When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message -
From: "Rob" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.

I use a free app called UbiDisk.
Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.

It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu allowing
you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then choose
easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.

UbiDisk is great and has many uses!

http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-easypush
Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
its very easy and convenient.

Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
iPhone, iPod or iPad.
On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
press the applications key
choose send with easy push
the easy push window will open.
the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
then your iPhone will appear on the list.
select it and press enter.
your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
tap on accept to start the transfer
when transfer is finished, tap on done.
Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
Downloads folder if you used the easy push.

right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
button. double tap to open it
then look for the action button,
then choose open in
Bard will be on that list.
good luck!

Thanks,
Rob
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206-426-3505
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Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-01 Thread Brian Albriton
You may notice that the books you've currently transferred say
protected content in the now reading window. After you've transferred
books from the pc to BARD Mobile, they will need that few seconds to
connect to the server to retrieve the AO, authorization object.
This is my loose understanding of the process.


On 10/1/13, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
> Here are my steps
>
> After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the download
>
> section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want
> I then tap share  then "open in" and chose bard mobile which brings up the
> bard mobile screen
> but I am not finding the new book.  What have I forgotten?  I thought I
> remembered seeing a progress bar the first time when it worked but not this
>
> time.
> ***
>   When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
> matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rob" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
> Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk
>
>
> Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.
>
>I use a free app called UbiDisk.
>Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.
>
>It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu allowing
>you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then choose
>easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
>Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.
>
>UbiDisk is great and has many uses!
>
> http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-easypush
> Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
> its very easy and convenient.
>
> Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
> iPhone, iPod or iPad.
> On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
> press the applications key
> choose send with easy push
> the easy push window will open.
> the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
> then your iPhone will appear on the list.
> select it and press enter.
> your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
> tap on accept to start the transfer
> when transfer is finished, tap on done.
> Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
> Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
> Downloads folder if you used the easy push.
>
> right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
> button. double tap to open it
> then look for the action button,
> then choose open in
> Bard will be on that list.
> good luck!
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
> You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
> 206-426-3505
> "God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"
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RE: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Just out of curiocity, how do you know it's trying to download when airplane
mode is on and when you are only on 3G, how do you know it is in fact
downloading? I just don't see how it can download on 3G when there is a 50
Mb download limit, i.e. if you ever tried to download an audio book or
podcast that was larger than 50 Mb via 3G it will not let you.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ierne
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

 

This situation is changing faster than my posts are being posted.  The
iPhone is now trying to download the update, while unlocked, without a
charger and with WiFi turned OFF, which is new.  Needless to say, it isn't
getting very far on 3G.  Indeed, it even tries on Airplane mode, which is
daft!  But it does appear that Apple have now lifted all the barriers to
downloading this auto update. And presumably we will now find, as Frankie
Lynch seems to have done, that the update will go ahead and install, even
without the OK from the user?  Completely outrageous behaviour by Apple if
so.  Spoken as a long-term customer, who started using Apple gear in 1984.

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Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I can still listen to books in the BARD Mobile app that I downloaded 
before the shutdown, so it's not true that the BARD Mobile app is no 
good without it's data connection. You need the data connection though 
to download books in the BARD Mobile app or read books that you 
transferred to your phone some other way, but if you downloaded the 
books in the app itself or started reading them before the shutdown then 
you can continue to read those books.


On 10/01/2013 11:20 PM, Rob wrote:

You are right,
the UbiDisk action button is now the share button.
I believe we can not import any books while Bard is shut down.
I upgraded to the iPhone 5 S and was very sad to see that none of my
downloaded books was restored from my backup through iTunes.
so unless someone has any more info, it seems the bard app is no good
without the connection to its home base!

On 10/1/2013 6:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
Here are my steps

After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the
download
section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want
I then tap share  then "open in" and chose bard mobile which brings up
the
bard mobile screen
but I am not finding the new book.  What have I forgotten?  I thought I
remembered seeing a progress bar the first time when it worked but not
this
time.
***
   When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in
return, It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message -
From: "Rob" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.

I use a free app called UbiDisk.
Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.

It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu
allowing
you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then
choose
easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.

UbiDisk is great and has many uses!

http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-easypush

Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
its very easy and convenient.

Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
iPhone, iPod or iPad.
On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
press the applications key
choose send with easy push
the easy push window will open.
the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
then your iPhone will appear on the list.
select it and press enter.
your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
tap on accept to start the transfer
when transfer is finished, tap on done.
Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
Downloads folder if you used the easy push.

right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
button. double tap to open it
then look for the action button,
then choose open in
Bard will be on that list.
good luck!

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
"God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"





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Skyscanner flights and travel app

2013-10-01 Thread Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers
Guys

I see there is an upgrade now available for the Skyscanner app.

The developers, Kotican, have worked directly for a number of months with 
visually impaired iPhone users here in Edinburgh to improve the app's 
accessibility and both the developers and Skyscanner should be congratulated 
for their efforts.

Best

Adrienne

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Test: Resmond Off List

2013-10-01 Thread Eileens Misrahi
HELLO List,

I've been having some hardware problems with the phone, so I just wanted to 
make sure that my posts are getting through to the list. Please respond to this 
post off list. 

Thanks.

Best,
Eileen


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Photo Isn't Appearing?

2013-10-01 Thread Jim Portillo
Hi there,

 

I have a question about my Contacts and photos.

 

Up until recently, my contact information had everything about me.name, home
and work phones, home work and other emails, home address, and other stuff.
It also had my photo that is the profile picture on my facebook page.
Although I don't have Facebook having access to my contacts, I have allowed
Facebook to update my current contacts with whatever pictures are on my
contacts facebook pages.

 

Today, I noticed that some of my contact information had gotten screwed up.
For instance, instead of showing my cell phone number as an IPhone number,
it showed as "Other."  Also, my photo was no longer part of my profile.

I went to the settings area and tried updating that part of Facebook. It
didn't add my photo the way it used to do so.  

Then, I went ahead and allowed Facebook to link up with my existing contacts
and add whatever other information it links.  Then, it had my photo.  When I
limited Facebook contact access again, the photo was gone.  That hadn't ever
happened before.

Also, when I checked other friends and contacts, their photos were on their
profiles on my phone.

Any idea what's going on and what I need to do?

Thanks,

Jim

 

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Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
Site is still up. My guess is that if things are going to be shut down, it'll 
be during business hours, Eastern time.

Teresa
On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:12 PM, eric oyen  wrote:

> I haven't checked yet. Been a little busy trying to get a new laptop working 
> with Linux.
> 
> -eric
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
> 
>> Eric, do you know this for sure?
>> 
>> Is this what is happening now?
>> 
>> Just wondering if this is speculative or reality at the moment.
>> 
>> Thanks and have a good night!
>> 
>> Smiles,
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> On
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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-10-01 Thread Betty Emmons
the Library of Congress used to allow books to come from libraries from 
around the world. unfortunely their was problems with different postal 
rates, from different countries. Betty Emmons
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Paganelli" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: Bard only for US Citizens?


As far as I know, BARD or Braille and Audio Reading Downloads a national 
program by the federal government of the United States of America for US 
citizens.  I know Canada has their own reading service for the blind and 
the UK has theirs.  I do remember reading somewhere that they all have a 
lose association with each other and in the past, they have lent books 
out.  I remember getting a book on music from Canada on loan.  My guess is 
as books world wide go more and more digital, arrangements will be made to 
avoid redundancy if nothing else and of course language.  If you can't 
understand the language, it's pointless to borrow the book regardless of 
it's format.

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Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Avnish Chopra" 

To: "ViPhone" 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Bard only for US Citizens?



How can non-US citizens become members and use the Bard application?
Any ideas? Thank you!

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Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

All you said is true.  But, that’s not what I was getting at.  I was saying, 
why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close?  
Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen in 
the app switcher.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua  wrote:

> Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time.
> Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close
> 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that,
> you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on
> app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen,
> then back to the app switcher.
> In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally
> different from iOS 6.
> 
> On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> You're right! Didn't think about that. :)
>> 
>> Very good point and I agree with you.
>> 
>> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO users or
>> not. Now you've got me curious.
>> 
>> Will be exploring this with sighted friends.
>> 
>> Thanks and have a good night!
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have been
>> closed?  The app switcher in my opinion, should just close automatically and
>> go to the home screen since that is the only action left to perform.
>> 
>> For example, I have 2 apps running.  in the app switcher, I will see the 2
>> apps plus the home screen.  Cool.  But, once I’ve close those 2 apps, there
>> is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to close it and
>> return to the home screen.  So, why then force the user to perform a gesture
>> or, press the physical home button when its a logical inevitability that
>> that is the next action the user will do?  This looks to me like a hold over
>> from IOS 6 that is no longer needed in IOS 7.  Remember, In IOS 6, although
>> all apps were closed from the switcher, there was still a large list of
>> things a person could still do.  Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation,
>> etc.  But this is no longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have
>> been moved to control center.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>>> HI Ricardo,
>>> 
>>> Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the
>>> screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6.
>>> 
>>> I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can dismiss
>>> the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the scrub that I know
>>> of.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask
>>> someone.
>>> 
>>> Interesting discussion!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cara :)
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Cara,
>>> 
>>> I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you’ve cleared all the
>>> other apps from the switcher?  I mean, since you can’t close home, why
>>> bother having it as the last available option since obviously, all the
>>> person can do is go to their home screen from that point.  lol.  I think
>>> home shouldn’t even be an option in the app switcher.  Its border line
>>> ridiculous.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
 HI Christopher,
 
 For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than to
 the next app in the switcher.
 
 Have a great day!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
 wrote:
 
 I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a three
 finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, and the next
 app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three finger swipe up and
 never have to swipe to the left or the right. I wonder why it works for
 me but not for you.
 
 Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 or the
 iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and reporting
 issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a better experience
 for the blind is complaining. I hope the below message doesn't keep
 anyone from discussing anything here on the list.
 
 On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:
> In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, and we
> lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to complain. We like
> to complain about everthing, and anything. from the most tiny bug and
> problem...
> 
> 
> Joanne Chua
> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.

Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I’m a bit confused.  So your saying for example, if I left my IOs device in 
airplane mode, I wouldn’t be able to read the books I downloaded onto my device 
because the app can not authenticate?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 2:06 AM, eric oyen  wrote:

> I don't just carry around for the hell of it. And yes, I spend most of my 
> waking hours reading while doing other things (like working on this 
> computer). I also maintain a library of works I like to reread. This also 
> means that if my internet connection dies, I won't have to worry about how to 
> get that next book. 
> 
> One suggestion for the NLS, use bit torrent. it will allow a far faster 
> download speed. Also, since it is open source, you can tailor it to feed only 
> US clients. This will also allow the NLS to decentralize some of its server 
> operations (so that IF the primary site goes down, the others will still be 
> live).
> 
> Anyway, the technology is getting good enough that any one person can have 
> enough storage space to contain the entire BARD file holdings (about 12 TV or 
> so). SO, it is not inconceivable that several copies of the entire index can 
> be located in private institutions (local libraries for example).
> 
> proposed torrent client would require an authentication certificate (like the 
> VR stream or the Braille Sense) in order to log onto the torrent swarm. THis 
> would limit the users to authorized clients only. That same torrent can also 
> copy (in real time) the database that NLS uses to index their materials. This 
> would allow local libraries to have their own local copy. Also, with local 
> volunteer readers, new works could be brought online a lot faster and 
> distributed to all nodes in short order.
> 
> Seems complicated? not really. In fact, twitter does this very thing.
> 
> Anyway, that can be how to get around a government shutdown of the NLS and 
> still allow access to the materials.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
> 
>> One can read books using the Bard Mobile app in the same way as on the 
>> VRS--once the books are downloaded you can read away. The only difference is 
>> in whether you want to fill 32 gigs of books on your phone or on the VRS' 
>> SDHC card. Quite frankly, depending on what you're reading, if you have more 
>> than a handful of books on either device, you're probably carrying them 
>> around just for the heck of it rather than because you're reading 24/7.
> 
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Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread eric oyen
same conclusion here. So far, I can still download books. anyway, what did you 
think of my suggestion about NLS using bitTorrent to decentralize operations 
and also allow clients (such as us) to get our books faster and easier?

-eric

On Oct 1, 2013, at 12:17 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Site is still up. My guess is that if things are going to be shut down, it'll 
> be during business hours, Eastern time.
> 
> Teresa

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Re: Audio player for MP3 audio books on IOS devices.

2013-10-01 Thread Brett
Hi, 

When I import audio books, I usually do it through the file sharing section of 
iTunes, as a book usually comprises 30 files or more. I can select them all and 
import them in to downcast. They all end up in the one folder, by deffault 
labelled with the date and time of the import. You can rename the folder if you 
want, but I usually don't bother. 

The speed button is found in the bottom left corner of the screen when the 
player controls are visible. 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

> On 1 Oct 2013, at 2:15 pm, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
> 
> Hi'
> 
> Here are the steps I took to import a file and change speed of playback in 
> downcast. 
> 
> In my case I imported a file from filer. I double-tap and hold on it and have 
> one of the options to open in downcast. 
> Then I return to downcast and land in the import file window. Here one can 
> select in which podcast to put the file and one also has to select it. I 
> think that I could have imported multiple files so here's where this could be 
> useful. 
> The default import option was a new podcast. I left it unchanged. 
> I tap import. 
> 
> Then I find the new podcast that has the name imported on date such and such. 
>  it shows 1 episode. I play it and flick right until, somewhere at bottom of 
> screen, I find a button labeled "normal speed is on" You can either 
> double-tap and cycle through options or double-tap and hold and open up a 
> list of all available playback speeds. 
> 
> Hope this made sense.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Ioana
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:47 PM, "Terrie Terlau"  wrote:
>> 
>> I can send a book to Downcast, but I can't find a Speed control. So I echo
>> John's question.
>> Thanks.
>> Terrie
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Audio player for MP3 audio books on IOS devices.
>> 
>> I haven't been able to figure out how to use Downcast for this. Can
>> you please explain.
>> 
>>> On 9/30/13, Brett  wrote:
>>> YHi,
>>> 
>>> I use Downcast. If you are already using it for your podcasts, why not
>> kill
>>> two birds with one stone.
>>> 
>>> It will remember your place in the book, can continuously play all files
>> in
>>> a folder, you can have it delete read files to save space on your phone if
>>> you wish. You can also speed up playback.
>>> 
>>> Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
>>> 
 On 1 Oct 2013, at 5:27 am, "Robin Christopherson"
  wrote:
 
 I use CloudBeats which is great too. If links with cloud services such as
 Box or Dropbox and has a much nicer media player than that built into
 those apps. Also, if you are listening to a book with multiple MP3 files
 then, unlike those other apps, it moves seamlessly from one file to the
 next to give unbroken playback without you having to navigate to the next
 file and double tap to get it to start playing.
 Also when you come back into CloudBeats it remembers where you were - but
 this is probably standard behaviour.
 Thanks, Robin.
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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Lol,

You know, for what its worth, When my sisters updated to IOS 7 I asked them for 
their opinion on the look of the OS.  They both replied almost in unison, “oh 
my god! my phone looks like an Android phone now.”  I wasn’t sure if this was 
good or bad but, it was definitely not the feedback I was expecting. lol.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
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On Oct 1, 2013, at 2:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Cara,
> 
> I think there are many millions of users out there who will probably
> disagree. I listened to the Today in iOS Podcast tonight and most of the
> calls that came in were very positive. Granted, many were about the 5S, but
> iOS 7 was also mentioned a lot. One older lady did mention the contrast
> thing. Anyhow, I guess we are stuck with it and while Apple may listen and
> improve the readability, I doubt they do a 180 and bring the old look back.
> My guess is that they will tweek this and improve upon it so let's hope they
> will fix it so that our iOS groups list owner doesn't have to be ashamed
> *smile*.
> 
> The 5S by the way gets pretty awesome reviews and apparently totally kicks
> butt in all the benchmark tests.
> 
> It is also not to be overlooked that Apple sold 9 million iPhones worldwide
> on the first weekend, some of them apparently are still in chanel which
> means not yet in the hands of the end user, and they do have a couple of
> large new carriers, but given the shortages in many places it does sound
> like a pretty impressive number.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cara Quinn
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
> 
> Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly!
> lol!
> 
> Just because we're female doesn't mean we automatically like bright gaudy
> colors or stark nondescript grey on white. So there! lol!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Joseph FreeTech 
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, I think they were targeting the female population with the new 
> interface's colors. The person Apple put in charge of the appearance of the 
> new interface is a woman. Just by the way they described the colors and 
> overall appearance it right away seemed to me like they were going after new
> 
> female iPhone users. The teenagers are probably Android users as young males
> 
> are more likely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some point
> 
> the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply 
> wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ron Pelletier" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM
> Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
> 
> 
> Hi Cara,
> 
> 
> 
> Funny you should say that.  I was told The very same thing a couple of days
> ago.  My friend told me he is almost ashamed to be seen with his phone.  He
> says it looks like a toy that was designed for a kid.  We know that Apple
> was going for a look that would please the younger generation but it seems
> like they don't even like it.  I was told that the contrast is horrible and
> the font is just as bad.
> 
> 
> 
> I am total so I don't really care but I have to say that this is not what I
> was expecting from Apple.
> 
> 
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Falling down is part of LIFE...
> 
> Getting back up is LIVING...
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cara Quinn
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
> 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I must agree with the assertion that 7 is just plain ugly.
> 
> 
> 
> A number of sighted friends have described the 'new' look, each in their own
> way, (as well as their difficulties with using it) and it just seems to me
> that for whatever reason, Apple just essentially abandoned all the upscale
> chic look and feel of iOS for what I can only describe as a thrown together
> gaudy amateurish look.
> 
> 
> 
> For as much polish as the parallax effect has, the rest of the OS is so
> overly scaled down as to be just plain ugly.
> 
> 
> 
> Just to illustrate one basic example, now what are being read by VO as
> buttons, in some cases, are simply a very light grey word on a white
> background. There are no borders making this look like a button, no
> indication that this item should be tapped to be activated and no really
> definite way to tell if the button is active or not. The font is so thin as
> to make it difficult to read and as I said, pretty much impossi

Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread eric oyen
thats just it. I don't know. However, how it was described to me was that the 
client would need to authenticate before allowing a download (and might also 
affect reader functionality if no connection was present).

SInce I was not part of the beta testing team, I can't confirm this.

-eric

On Oct 1, 2013, at 12:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I’m a bit confused.  So your saying for example, if I left my IOs device in 
> airplane mode, I wouldn’t be able to read the books I downloaded onto my 
> device because the app can not authenticate?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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Installation of High Quality Voices

2013-10-01 Thread Robin Christopherson
Les
You’re right – the Australian has always been my favourite and for some reason 
the compact voice sounds almost identical to the HQ voice but without the 
clipping. However in iOS7 it seems that the compact Australian voice now 
suffers from clipping too. The English voice, however, sounds totally different 
between compact and HQ and I must have this one set for Siri otherwise it 
doesn’t recognise my voice so well – so I’m glad I sorted it as Siri would 
otherwise sound like a complete disaster.
Thanks, Robin.

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Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"

2013-10-01 Thread SSEric

I just hear "screen lock", without having heard any incoming mail, message, 
etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including alarms, reminders, etc. 
I cannot swear 100% there isn't some correlating event. This seems to occur 
once or twice a day since the seven update.

Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 on Verizon, 
16 GB black model.

Thanks for any thoughts.

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Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Teresa Cochran
Neat ideas. Given the nature of government agencies, however, we might be on 
IOS eleventy-seven before they ever got off the ground, much less implemented. 
I suspect most folks wouldn't be patient with torrents, though, even with the 
possibly higher numbers of peers and seeds. Sorry, feeling a wee bit cynical 
right now. Ha.

Teresa
On Oct 1, 2013, at 12:28 AM, eric oyen  wrote:

> same conclusion here. So far, I can still download books. anyway, what did 
> you think of my suggestion about NLS using bitTorrent to decentralize 
> operations and also allow clients (such as us) to get our books faster and 
> easier?
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Oct 1, 2013, at 12:17 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Site is still up. My guess is that if things are going to be shut down, 
>> it'll be during business hours, Eastern time.
>> 
>> Teresa
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Re: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"

2013-10-01 Thread Kimber Gardner
I'v had the same thing happen on my 4s running ios7.

On 10/1/13, SSEric  wrote:
>
> I just hear "screen lock", without having heard any incoming mail, message,
> etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including alarms, reminders,
> etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some correlating event. This seems to
> occur once or twice a day since the seven update.
>
> Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 on
> Verizon, 16 GB black model.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts.
>
> Eric
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RE: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"

2013-10-01 Thread Øyvind Lode
Yup. I can confirm this.
iOS 7 bugs me.
The speech quality is very poor (Norwegian) and I find it to lag.
This is on an iPhone 4S.

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SSEric
Sent: 1. oktober 2013 10:08
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Subject: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"


I just hear "screen lock", without having heard any incoming mail, message, 
etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including alarms, reminders, etc. 
I cannot swear 100% there isn't some correlating event. This seems to occur 
once or twice a day since the seven update.

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16 GB black model.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Eric

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Cait and Maggie
when I bought my new 5C, I got the pink one.  The girl helping me at the store 
told me that the background on the phone matched the actual phone's colour.

So, I guess if you just want a dark background or a plain white one, just get 
the phones in those colours.

I don't know about the 5S and the colour schemes for that one.

If you didn't like the background, can't you just change the wallpaper?

Cait

On 2013-10-01, at 1:07 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly! 
> lol!
> 
> Just because we're female doesn't mean we automatically like bright gaudy 
> colors or stark nondescript grey on white. So there! lol!
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Joseph FreeTech  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, I think they were targeting the female population with the new 
> interface's colors. The person Apple put in charge of the appearance of the 
> new interface is a woman. Just by the way they described the colors and 
> overall appearance it right away seemed to me like they were going after new 
> female iPhone users. The teenagers are probably Android users as young males 
> are more likely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some point 
> the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply 
> wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in.
> 
> Joseph
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ron Pelletier" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM
> Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
> 
> 
> Hi Cara,
> 
> 
> 
> Funny you should say that.  I was told The very same thing a couple of days
> ago.  My friend told me he is almost ashamed to be seen with his phone.  He
> says it looks like a toy that was designed for a kid.  We know that Apple
> was going for a look that would please the younger generation but it seems
> like they don't even like it.  I was told that the contrast is horrible and
> the font is just as bad.
> 
> 
> 
> I am total so I don't really care but I have to say that this is not what I
> was expecting from Apple.
> 
> 
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Falling down is part of LIFE...
> 
> Getting back up is LIVING...
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cara Quinn
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
> 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I must agree with the assertion that 7 is just plain ugly.
> 
> 
> 
> A number of sighted friends have described the 'new' look, each in their own
> way, (as well as their difficulties with using it) and it just seems to me
> that for whatever reason, Apple just essentially abandoned all the upscale
> chic look and feel of iOS for what I can only describe as a thrown together
> gaudy amateurish look.
> 
> 
> 
> For as much polish as the parallax effect has, the rest of the OS is so
> overly scaled down as to be just plain ugly.
> 
> 
> 
> Just to illustrate one basic example, now what are being read by VO as
> buttons, in some cases, are simply a very light grey word on a white
> background. There are no borders making this look like a button, no
> indication that this item should be tapped to be activated and no really
> definite way to tell if the button is active or not. The font is so thin as
> to make it difficult to read and as I said, pretty much impossible to
> distinguish between being active or inactive.
> 
> 
> 
> This is absolutely awful and inconsiderate for people with any kind of
> visual difficulties at all. Not to mention just the major change in user
> interface paradigm.
> 
> 
> 
> I have absolutely no idea what Apple was thinking with this one and quite
> frankly, it makes me ashamed.
> 
> 
> 
> This is just not cool and I really hope reason once again prevails here.
> 
> 
> 
> apple, please do live up to your excellent standards and turn this one
> around right away so that everyone can enjoy this OS rather than need to
> suffer through it.
> 
> 
> 
> At the very least, please consider bringing back at least some classic mode
> of visual interface (as you have done by keeping original ringtones) for
> those who can see, but whose vision might not be perfect. At the very least,
> consider bringing back an option for an homage to the classic look and feel.
> This would make worlds of difference for many people.
> 
> 
> 
> This would go a long way to really showing that Apple inclusiveness. this is
> not just a matter of a new cool look. This is a matter of a whole lot of
> difficulty for many users whom may not even technically have vision problems
> but for whom this OS is just plain difficult to work with.
> 
> 
> 
> These are just a few of my thoughts. Thanks so much for reading!
> 
> 
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> 
> 
> Cara :)
> 
> On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:15 AM,

Re: How to Play TV Shows Transferred to iPhone

2013-10-01 Thread Cait and Maggie
try your music app instead of i tunes.
hth,
Caitlyn

On 2013-10-01, at 12:05 AM, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:

> I hate to be thick but I don't find it very intuitive to play a TV show I 
> just purchased from the iTunes Store and transferred to my iPhone 5 using the 
> iTunes sync. I figured to play this show I should launch the iTunes app and 
> then select the TV Shows tab at the bottom of the screen. But then I'm 
> presented with every TV show known to man and nothing that offers a selection 
> like shows on this device. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Hmm, interesting experiment. I went into my App Switcher and cleared 
everything out using the three finger swipe up. this time my focus kept 
moving to the next item in the list, so I never had to swipe right. Go 
figure. After that. I enabled airplane mode and brought up BARD Mobile. 
I was able to read a book just fine. I suspect I'll be able to keep 
reading books on my iPhone even if the BARD site shuts down.


I've heard that you can't use iTunes to transfer your books to the 
iPhone if the BARD site were down, but I'm skeptical about this as well. 
This additional verification isn't done when I copy a book onto a blank 
cartridge or my Booksense. I'm also not sure how iTunes on my PC would 
know how to check for anything, since I entered my user ID and password 
in the BARD Mobile app on my iPhone. Hopefully, we won't have to find 
out if this is ever true or not.


On 10/01/2013 02:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

I’m a bit confused.  So your saying for example, if I left my IOs device in 
airplane mode, I wouldn’t be able to read the books I downloaded onto my device 
because the app can not authenticate?

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
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On Oct 1, 2013, at 2:06 AM, eric oyen  wrote:


I don't just carry around for the hell of it. And yes, I spend most of my 
waking hours reading while doing other things (like working on this computer). 
I also maintain a library of works I like to reread. This also means that if my 
internet connection dies, I won't have to worry about how to get that next book.

One suggestion for the NLS, use bit torrent. it will allow a far faster 
download speed. Also, since it is open source, you can tailor it to feed only 
US clients. This will also allow the NLS to decentralize some of its server 
operations (so that IF the primary site goes down, the others will still be 
live).

Anyway, the technology is getting good enough that any one person can have 
enough storage space to contain the entire BARD file holdings (about 12 TV or 
so). SO, it is not inconceivable that several copies of the entire index can be 
located in private institutions (local libraries for example).

proposed torrent client would require an authentication certificate (like the 
VR stream or the Braille Sense) in order to log onto the torrent swarm. THis 
would limit the users to authorized clients only. That same torrent can also 
copy (in real time) the database that NLS uses to index their materials. This 
would allow local libraries to have their own local copy. Also, with local 
volunteer readers, new works could be brought online a lot faster and 
distributed to all nodes in short order.

Seems complicated? not really. In fact, twitter does this very thing.

Anyway, that can be how to get around a government shutdown of the NLS and 
still allow access to the materials.

-eric

On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:


One can read books using the Bard Mobile app in the same way as on the
VRS--once the books are downloaded you can read away. The only difference is
in whether you want to fill 32 gigs of books on your phone or on the VRS'
SDHC card. Quite frankly, depending on what you're reading, if you have more
than a handful of books on either device, you're probably carrying them
around just for the heck of it rather than because you're reading 24/7.


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Re: can folders take more apps under IOS7?

2013-10-01 Thread MamaPeach
You can have multiple pages of apps inside each folder. I have one folder that 
has 43 apps in it.

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Subject: can folders take more apps under IOS7?

hello all, 
since upgrading my iPhone 4S to IOS7, I have noticed that folders with I think 
it is more than 9 apps in them now have a page 2 for the remaining apps. 
does this mean that under IOS7, one can now put more than 12 apps in a folder, 
and if so, how many can folders take now? 

Simon 


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Re: Using iTunes Filesharing and Bard Mobile

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I haven't done this myself, but Russ and David posted these instructions 
to the list in the last day.



Doing some research, I found the following, hope it helps:
Loading books into the BARDmobile app

The BARDmobile app is able to play any DAISY/NISO 2005 formatted book. To load 
the
books into the iOS device for playback use the following instructions.
1. If not in a ZIP archive format. You should compress the directory holding 
the books
files into a ZIP file.
2. Connect the iOS device to your computer with a USB cable.
3. Open the iTunes application and select the iOS device button at the right of 
the
main window.
4. select the "Apps" radio button on the main screen.
5. At the bottom of the Apps screen is a section titled "File Sharing" with a 
column
list of apps. One of those will be the BARDmobile app select it.
6. Press the "Add…" button located in the bottom right of the screen. This will 
give
you a dialog to select the ZIP file from step one. The book will then be added 
to
the app. You may need to restart BARDmobile to see the new book.
NOTE:
At this time the BARDmobile app will only play DAISY/NISO 2005 books. Other 
DAISY
formats such as DAISY 2.02 and ePub 3 will simply fail to load.


On 10/01/2013 12:17 AM, Dani L Pagador wrote:

Hi, Everyone.

How do I download books from my PC to the BARD Mobile app? I have iTunes
11 but am not familiar with how to use filesharing.

TIA,

Dani


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Barred app question

2013-10-01 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I just installed the barred app and double tap on agree and all voice over says 
is selected and unselected.  How do you get it to agree properly.  
Also, can you read books dirrectly on to your iPhone?  
Jen  

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How can you stop voice over from talking while texting?

2013-10-01 Thread Kimmie
Hi there.  Actually the subject line is a little confusing, I think, but I'm
using my Bluetooth keyboard, and when I'm texting, my i-phone is spelling
out every character I type, and it's annoying.  How can I stop that please,
because I'm typing faster than the voice over is speaking.  Thanks for your
help. 

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Re: Barred app question

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain
It's been a while since I've done it, but after making sure "I agree" is 
selected, look for a continue or next button.


I'm not sure what you mean by reading books directly on your iPhone, but 
you can download books directly from the BARD web site to your iPhone. 
they need to be on the recently added books list or in your wish list 
though. You can add books to your wish list directly from the BARD app 
or any browser.


On 10/01/2013 04:16 AM, Jen Colley wrote:

Hi,
I just installed the barred app and double tap on agree and all voice
over says is selected and unselected.  How do you get it to agree properly.
Also, can you read books dirrectly on to your iPhone?
Jen


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Re: How can you stop voice over from talking while texting?

2013-10-01 Thread Shane clark
Hi,
Go to typing feedback, and in there, you can change the settings on what VO 
reads to you. 
Hth. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:19 AM, "Kimmie"  wrote:
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> Hi there.  Actually the subject line is a little confusing, I think, but I'm
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> out every character I type, and it's annoying.  How can I stop that please,
> because I'm typing faster than the voice over is speaking.  Thanks for your
> help. 
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Re: How can you stop voice over from talking while texting?

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I think you want Settings -> General -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver ON -> 
Typing Feedback. There's a setting for both a software keyboard and a 
hardware keyboard.


On 10/01/2013 04:19 AM, Kimmie wrote:

Hi there.  Actually the subject line is a little confusing, I think, but I'm
using my Bluetooth keyboard, and when I'm texting, my i-phone is spelling
out every character I type, and it's annoying.  How can I stop that please,
because I'm typing faster than the voice over is speaking.  Thanks for your
help.



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Re: How can you stop voice over from talking while texting?

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I think you want to go into Settings -> General -> Accessibility -> 
VoiceOver On -> Typing Feedback. You'll see settings for both your 
software and hardware keyboards.


On 10/01/2013 04:19 AM, Kimmie wrote:

Hi there.  Actually the subject line is a little confusing, I think, but I'm
using my Bluetooth keyboard, and when I'm texting, my i-phone is spelling
out every character I type, and it's annoying.  How can I stop that please,
because I'm typing faster than the voice over is speaking.  Thanks for your
help.



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Re: possible issue with tap tap see?

2013-10-01 Thread Pablo Morales
yes, I just noticed it today.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Troy Sullivan 
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  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:22 PM
  Subject: possible issue with tap tap see?


  It's not a big one, but I notice in ios7.02 that tap tap see seems to have 2 
voices trying to speak at the same time, anyone else notice this?

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Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yup,

I had no trouble reading already downloaded books when there was no internet 
connectivity either.  That’s why I wanted to get some clarification of the 
statement about authentication.  Sure, To download the book to your device 
maybe.  But if that’s the case, there is no real validity to Eric’s statement 
“that also means that if my internet connection dies, I won't have to worry 
about how to get that next book.”  Because the concerns are exactly the same if 
your using the bard mobile app are not. 

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On Oct 1, 2013, at 5:00 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> Hmm, interesting experiment. I went into my App Switcher and cleared 
> everything out using the three finger swipe up. this time my focus kept 
> moving to the next item in the list, so I never had to swipe right. Go 
> figure. After that. I enabled airplane mode and brought up BARD Mobile. I was 
> able to read a book just fine. I suspect I'll be able to keep reading books 
> on my iPhone even if the BARD site shuts down.
> 
> I've heard that you can't use iTunes to transfer your books to the iPhone if 
> the BARD site were down, but I'm skeptical about this as well. This 
> additional verification isn't done when I copy a book onto a blank cartridge 
> or my Booksense. I'm also not sure how iTunes on my PC would know how to 
> check for anything, since I entered my user ID and password in the BARD 
> Mobile app on my iPhone. Hopefully, we won't have to find out if this is ever 
> true or not.
> 
> On 10/01/2013 02:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’m a bit confused.  So your saying for example, if I left my IOs device in 
>> airplane mode, I wouldn’t be able to read the books I downloaded onto my 
>> device because the app can not authenticate?
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
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>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 2:06 AM, eric oyen  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't just carry around for the hell of it. And yes, I spend most of my 
>>> waking hours reading while doing other things (like working on this 
>>> computer). I also maintain a library of works I like to reread. This also 
>>> means that if my internet connection dies, I won't have to worry about how 
>>> to get that next book.
>>> 
>>> One suggestion for the NLS, use bit torrent. it will allow a far faster 
>>> download speed. Also, since it is open source, you can tailor it to feed 
>>> only US clients. This will also allow the NLS to decentralize some of its 
>>> server operations (so that IF the primary site goes down, the others will 
>>> still be live).
>>> 
>>> Anyway, the technology is getting good enough that any one person can have 
>>> enough storage space to contain the entire BARD file holdings (about 12 TV 
>>> or so). SO, it is not inconceivable that several copies of the entire index 
>>> can be located in private institutions (local libraries for example).
>>> 
>>> proposed torrent client would require an authentication certificate (like 
>>> the VR stream or the Braille Sense) in order to log onto the torrent swarm. 
>>> THis would limit the users to authorized clients only. That same torrent 
>>> can also copy (in real time) the database that NLS uses to index their 
>>> materials. This would allow local libraries to have their own local copy. 
>>> Also, with local volunteer readers, new works could be brought online a lot 
>>> faster and distributed to all nodes in short order.
>>> 
>>> Seems complicated? not really. In fact, twitter does this very thing.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, that can be how to get around a government shutdown of the NLS and 
>>> still allow access to the materials.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
>>> 
 One can read books using the Bard Mobile app in the same way as on the
 VRS--once the books are downloaded you can read away. The only difference 
 is
 in whether you want to fill 32 gigs of books on your phone or on the VRS'
 SDHC card. Quite frankly, depending on what you're reading, if you have 
 more
 than a handful of books on either device, you're probably carrying them
 around just for the heck of it rather than because you're reading 24/7.
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Re: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

There could be a couple things happening here.  One, there is some update being 
performed in the background or two, you have pressed the volume keys while 
listening to audio with your device locked.

hth

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On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:37 AM, Kimber Gardner  wrote:

> I'v had the same thing happen on my 4s running ios7.
> 
> On 10/1/13, SSEric  wrote:
>> 
>> I just hear "screen lock", without having heard any incoming mail, message,
>> etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including alarms, reminders,
>> etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some correlating event. This seems to
>> occur once or twice a day since the seven update.
>> 
>> Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 on
>> Verizon, 16 GB black model.
>> 
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>> 
>> Eric
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Re: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"

2013-10-01 Thread Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan
I'm facing the same issue with an iPhone 4S running iOS 7.0.2.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ųyvind Lode" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"


Yup. I can confirm this.
iOS 7 bugs me.
The speech quality is very poor (Norwegian) and I find it to lag.
This is on an iPhone 4S.

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Sent: 1. oktober 2013 10:08
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Subject: Random and Unexplained "Screen Locked"


I just hear "screen lock", without having heard any incoming mail, message, 
etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including alarms, reminders, 
etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some correlating event. This seems to 
occur once or twice a day since the seven update.

Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 on 
Verizon, 16 GB black model.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Eric

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Performance of the motorola h19txt bluetooth earpiece with IOS7 questions:

2013-10-01 Thread Don Breda
I have been considering purchasing this earpiece for quite a while but
heard of some problems with echo etc. under IOS6.

This was an issue with many earpieces.

Is the earpiece working better under IOS7? Does it work reliably when
the phone is on the opposite  side of your body or does it suffer from
breakup?

In general how is it under IOS7?

Will it solve those kinds of problems I asked about?

Thanks.

Don



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Downloaded an audio book from barred app but where do I find it on my phone?

2013-10-01 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I went in to the barred app and downloaded an audio book but now where do I 
find it on my phone?  
Jen  

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Can you see a list of all the available audio books in the barred app and is there a link for books for kids and young readers?

2013-10-01 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I am new to barred and just installed the moble app.  
I am wondering if I can see on the app a complete list of the audio books 
available through barred?  Also, is there a section for kids and young readers? 
 
Jen  

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Re: Downloaded an audio book from barred app but where do I find it on my phone?

2013-10-01 Thread Ann
Hello, you may find all the books that you have downloaded and the magazines as 
well under the bookshelf tab. If you need one-on-one help using Bard on an 
iPhone, just send me a message off list and I will help you. Speaking of books, 
has anybody figured out open Library.org yet? Thanks in advance bye

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2013, at 6:49 AM, "Jen Colley"  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> I went in to the barred app and downloaded an audio book but now where do I 
> find it on my phone? 
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RE: Downloaded an audio book from barred app but where do I find it on my phone?

2013-10-01 Thread Lois Butterfield
Jen,

 

It would be in the book shelf.

 

Take care,

Lois

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jen Colley
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Downloaded an audio book from barred app but where do I find it on
my phone?

 

Hi,  

I went in to the barred app and downloaded an audio book but now where do I
find it on my phone?  

Jen  

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RE: Can you see a list of all the available audio books in the barred app and is there a link for books for kids and young readers?

2013-10-01 Thread Michael Malver
You can't see all the books on bard directly within the bard mobile app.
There is a tab in the app that lets you view the bard website.  Once you get
into the bard website you can do searches just as you did before the bard
mobile came out.  All the search functionality of the bard website is
available to you.

 

Michael

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jen Colley
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can you see a list of all the available audio books in the barred
app and is there a link for books for kids and young readers?

 

Hi,  

I am new to barred and just installed the moble app.  

I am wondering if I can see on the app a complete list of the audio books
available through barred?  Also, is there a section for kids and young
readers?  

Jen  

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Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-01 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
Here are my steps

After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the download 
section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want
I then tap share  then "open in" and chose bard mobile which brings up the 
bard mobile screen
but I am not finding the new book.  What have I forgotten?  I thought I 
remembered seeing a progress bar the first time when it worked but not this 
time.
***
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matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message - 
From: "Rob" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.

   I use a free app called UbiDisk.
   Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.

   It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu allowing
   you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then choose
   easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
   Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.

   UbiDisk is great and has many uses!

http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-easypush
Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
its very easy and convenient.

Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
iPhone, iPod or iPad.
On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
press the applications key
choose send with easy push
the easy push window will open.
the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
then your iPhone will appear on the list.
select it and press enter.
your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
tap on accept to start the transfer
when transfer is finished, tap on done.
Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
Downloads folder if you used the easy push.

right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
button. double tap to open it
then look for the action button,
then choose open in
Bard will be on that list.
good luck!

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
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Re: Selecting Multiple Files for Open In using UbiDisk

2013-10-01 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Rob is there anything  under settings on the iDevice that should be turned 
on or off?
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- Original Message - 
From: "Rob" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Selecting Multiple Files for Open In using UbiDisk


1. on the bottom right is the multiselect button
tap it then you tap the files you want to select.
then use the bottom buttons to zip,delete,copy,cut...
But you cant use the open in feature with multiple files.

2. After exporting the files to another app such as Bard, you can delete
them from UbiDisk.

Thanks,
Rob
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206-426-3505
"God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"

On 9/30/2013 8:43 PM, Terrie Terlau wrote:
> Hi Rob,\
> Because of an email on this subject that you sent a few days ago, I am 
> using
> UbiDisk very successfully! Thanks so much for taking the time to explain 
> it
> on the list. I have two questions: when I send  a number of files to my
> iPhone with UbiDisk and I do Open In, I can't seem to select more than one
> file at a time. When reading an MP3 book with multiple files, I like to 
> have
> all the files ready to open in the app I want to read them with. So I have
> to do the Open In procedure for 6 or 7 files individually. I am also using
> Speed Up because I like the speed feature.
> So here are my questions:
> 1. Is there a way to use the Open In for multiple files at the same time?
> and
> 2. When you do the Open In, the file names appear in the App I send them 
> to.
> Are the files actually copied to the app that will open them and if so can 
> I
> delete them from UbiDisk?
>
> Thanks for your wisdom! This list is wonderful! I promise that when I know
> more I will answer some questions too. Right now, you truly wouldn't want 
> me
> to (grin)!\
>
> Terrie Terlau
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Rob
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk
>
> Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.
>
> I use a free app called UbiDisk.
> Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.
>
> It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu allowing
> you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then 
> choose
> easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
> Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.
>
> UbiDisk is great and has many uses!
>
> http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-e
> asypush
> Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
> its very easy and convenient.
>
> Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
> iPhone, iPod or iPad.
> On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
> press the applications key
> choose send with easy push
> the easy push window will open.
> the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
> then your iPhone will appear on the list.
> select it and press enter.
> your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
> tap on accept to start the transfer
> when transfer is finished, tap on done.
> Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
> Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
> Downloads folder if you used the easy push.
>
> right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
> button. double tap to open it
> then look for the action button,
> then choose open in
> Bard will be on that list.
> good luck!
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
> You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
> 206-426-3505
> "God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"
>

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Re: can folders take more apps under IOS7?

2013-10-01 Thread kliphton
And I don't think there is a limit of the amount of pages that is in one 
folder.  I have a folder that has 125 apps, and 17 pages all in 1 folder.
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On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:01 AM, "MamaPeach"  wrote:

> You can have multiple pages of apps inside each folder. I have one folder 
> that has 43 apps in it.
>  
> From: goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:50 PM
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> ;viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: can folders take more apps under IOS7?
>  
> hello all,
> since upgrading my iPhone 4S to IOS7, I have noticed that folders with I 
> think it is more than 9 apps in them now have a page 2 for the remaining apps.
> does this mean that under IOS7, one can now put more than 12 apps in a 
> folder, and if so, how many can folders take now?
>  
> Simon
>  
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Re: possible LOC shutdown

2013-10-01 Thread Patti Johnson
I had to go to a meeting last night, fully intending on coming home and 
downloading some books that I had found in the new listings.
Well I forgot to do that, so when I got up this morning I thought, well 
that's that, I can't  get those books.

But I was able to get them.
So I wonder did we get a reprieve or since it was yesterday's books is 
that why I could get them.  At any rate I am glad I was successful in 
getting the ones I wanted.

Patti

On 9/30/2013 11:07 PM, eric oyen wrote:

This is a major reason why a single app on an iPhone (like BARD) is such a not 
so nice idea. In order to read any books from the NLS, the app authenticates 
with the NLS servers. If they are shut down, so is your ability to read. THis 
is why I prefer the use of both my Braille Sense and my Victor Reader Stream. 
With these and a few ram sticks full of books, I can be set for just about any 
contingency.

-eric

On Sep 30, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Marianne Denning wrote:


--
I did a little research and copied this information directly from the
home page of the Library of Congress.  If you have downloaded books
onto your IDevice you should be fine but if they are in your wish list
you probably won't be able to access them.


News from the Library of Congress

September 27, 2013

Advisory: Possible Federal Shutdown

In the event of a temporary shutdown of the federal government,
beginning Tuesday, October 1, all Library of Congress buildings will
close to the public and researchers. All public events will be
cancelled and web sites will be inaccessible.


Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053

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Re: sound problem

2013-10-01 Thread David Chittenden
No, it was those obvious solutions which offended Bryan so much. He has not yet 
reported receiving a workable solution. The symptoms he reported, considering 
that the obvious solutions were already attempted by himself, there is a 
solution which nobody has mentioned. If he finally takes the iPhone into the 
Apple store and meets with a genius bar rep, the rep will most likely know the 
proper solution. After all, it was one of those techs who explained that 
particular problem's solution to me.

I wish him luck. I will not assist him because I do not assist people who 
continue in their rudeness and do not apologise for such impolite behaviour.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Oct 2013, at 17:10, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I used to work at IBM, and I heard this story as well. I could also offer up 
> my own similar stories. Although I think I'm pretty savvy, I've had the light 
> bulb go off a few times when someone mentioned something obvious and that got 
> me thinking to some setting I had changed and then forgot about or something 
> else that seemed pretty obvious in hindsight.
> 
> A few more thoughts on this whole issue.
> 
> first, if someone is pretty particular about the suggestions they get then 
> maybe they have better options to get help than post a question to a list 
> with over 1400 members. Anyone who has been on this list for any length of 
> time knows that we have members from the novice to the experienced. It's also 
> a list full of people who want to help out and support each other.
> 
> A summary of steps that were already tried would have also kept seemingly 
> obvious and redundant suggestions from being made.
> 
> Just using the delete key seems like it would have been more appropriate than 
> pointing out to the list how much "obvious" suggestions are resented.
> 
> BTW, I didn't pay attention to the solution but wasn't it something pretty 
> obvious, like powering off the phone or using the volume up keys when the ear 
> buds weren't plugged in?
> 
>> On 09/30/2013 10:11 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
>> I feel the same as you, Christopher. I always welcome all suggestions, even 
>> and especially the obvious ones. When I get frustrated over a problem, I 
>> know that I can too easily forget one of the basic, obvious solutions.
>> 
>> Many years ago, I studied computer engineering for a couple years. I 
>> ultimately changed to another field, but I will never forget a story told to 
>> us by an engineering professor. He worked as a supervisor for a computer 
>> installation and repair company in the 70's. One day, a technician went out 
>> on a call. Half an hour later, the tech called and asked for assistance, so 
>> another tech was dispatched. When my former professor went out to see what 
>> was going on, four techs had been sent. He got there and found the large 
>> mainframe open, every board was out with meters showing proper functioning, 
>> and the technicians were very confused. As he looked behind the extremely 
>> large system, he noticed that a power cable was lying next to the socket 
>> rather than being plugged in. So, they plugged the system back in (the power 
>> had been unknowingly kicked out of the socket), and everything started 
>> working again properly.
>> 
>> I always go back to basics when I am in my correct mind. After all, it is 
>> usually one of the basics that we accidentally overlook.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 1 Oct 2013, at 13:33, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'll try to do the same thing myself, although I may not remember who 
>>> appreciates suggestions and who doesn't. For my part, when I ask a question 
>>> on list, I'll try to mention what I've already tried, but please send me 
>>> all of your suggestions. I've seen plenty of issues on this list solved by 
>>> an obvious suggestion, and I've benefited from them myself. What may be 
>>> obvious to everyone else, may be a setting I haven't stumbled across before 
>>> or may be a subtle change in how IOS 7 works compared to IOS 6. David and 
>>> all, I appreciate your help and suggestions.
>>> 
 On 09/30/2013 06:49 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
 Hello Bryan,
 
 the process of determining what may be wrong starts with checking all of 
 the obvious possibilities. For me, just about every possibility is 
 obvious. I am a trainer, and have been a beta tester and AT setup and 
 trainer in the past. I have no idea what you consider obvious unless you 
 state specifically what you have already tried.
 
 That said, now that I know you will react negatively if I suggest 
 something you consider obvious, I will reframe from taking any chances of 
 giving you a wrong suggestion.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobi

Re: Selecting Multiple Files for Open In using UbiDisk

2013-10-01 Thread Robert Doc Wright
rob should I be concerned that the version I have does not have an action 
button after i click more info?  I see share and easy push.  I double tapped 
share then open in but I am not seeing the new book.  should there be some 
sort of progress bar to let me know that it is working?
***
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message - 
From: "Rob" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Selecting Multiple Files for Open In using UbiDisk


1. on the bottom right is the multiselect button
tap it then you tap the files you want to select.
then use the bottom buttons to zip,delete,copy,cut...
But you cant use the open in feature with multiple files.

2. After exporting the files to another app such as Bard, you can delete
them from UbiDisk.

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
"God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"

On 9/30/2013 8:43 PM, Terrie Terlau wrote:
> Hi Rob,\
> Because of an email on this subject that you sent a few days ago, I am 
> using
> UbiDisk very successfully! Thanks so much for taking the time to explain 
> it
> on the list. I have two questions: when I send  a number of files to my
> iPhone with UbiDisk and I do Open In, I can't seem to select more than one
> file at a time. When reading an MP3 book with multiple files, I like to 
> have
> all the files ready to open in the app I want to read them with. So I have
> to do the Open In procedure for 6 or 7 files individually. I am also using
> Speed Up because I like the speed feature.
> So here are my questions:
> 1. Is there a way to use the Open In for multiple files at the same time?
> and
> 2. When you do the Open In, the file names appear in the App I send them 
> to.
> Are the files actually copied to the app that will open them and if so can 
> I
> delete them from UbiDisk?
>
> Thanks for your wisdom! This list is wonderful! I promise that when I know
> more I will answer some questions too. Right now, you truly wouldn't want 
> me
> to (grin)!\
>
> Terrie Terlau
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Rob
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk
>
> Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.
>
> I use a free app called UbiDisk.
> Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.
>
> It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu allowing
> you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then 
> choose
> easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
> Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.
>
> UbiDisk is great and has many uses!
>
> http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-e
> asypush
> Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
> its very easy and convenient.
>
> Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
> iPhone, iPod or iPad.
> On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
> press the applications key
> choose send with easy push
> the easy push window will open.
> the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
> then your iPhone will appear on the list.
> select it and press enter.
> your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
> tap on accept to start the transfer
> when transfer is finished, tap on done.
> Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
> Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
> Downloads folder if you used the easy push.
>
> right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
> button. double tap to open it
> then look for the action button,
> then choose open in
> Bard will be on that list.
> good luck!
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
> You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
> 206-426-3505
> "God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"
>

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Re: Audio player for MP3 audio books on IOS devices.

2013-10-01 Thread Russ Kiehne

I use downcast for this purpose.

-Original Message- 
From: Kimberly thurman

Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Audio player for MP3 audio books on IOS devices.

Hello all:

Is there an audio player for IOS which I can play MP3 audio books in after 
transferring via Dropbox or by some other means?  I don't want to use iTunes 
for this, as it seems to play the tracks in the wrong order no matter what I 
do to them.  I would also like this player to keep my place in the book.


Thanks for any and all suggestions.

All the best,

Kim

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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Paganelli
I'm 65 years old and have been in the library reading service sense I was 
around 8 so I've read a few books!   And, sense you seem to know what 
I know, I'd take a guess you've read more then a few books yourself.


I was planning on getting a Victor Reader Stream 2 as my Victor Reader 
Stream 1 is getting pretty old.  So far, all it's keys work but a few just 
work.  Humanware wants something like 379 USD for it.  The free bard app has 
saved me from having to shell out that kind of money so now I can put that 
in a new iPhone.  We've been sick around our house passing around what seems 
to be a cold so haven't felt like going down to the AT&T store yet.  I'm 
down to only 3.2 GB left in free space on my iPhone 4 32 GB iPhone.  Maybe 
when I get the 5s, I better get the 64 GB version.  More room for books you 
see.

---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Betty Emmons" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: Bard only for US Citizens?


the Library of Congress used to allow books to come from libraries from 
around the world. unfortunely their was problems with different postal 
rates, from different countries. Betty Emmons
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Paganelli" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: Bard only for US Citizens?


As far as I know, BARD or Braille and Audio Reading Downloads a national 
program by the federal government of the United States of America for US 
citizens.  I know Canada has their own reading service for the blind and 
the UK has theirs.  I do remember reading somewhere that they all have a 
lose association with each other and in the past, they have lent books 
out.  I remember getting a book on music from Canada on loan.  My guess 
is as books world wide go more and more digital, arrangements will be 
made to avoid redundancy if nothing else and of course language.  If you 
can't understand the language, it's pointless to borrow the book 
regardless of it's format.

---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


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http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Avnish Chopra" 

To: "ViPhone" 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Bard only for US Citizens?



How can non-US citizens become members and use the Bard application?
Any ideas? Thank you!

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Re: Barred app question

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Paganelli

I think to get the next button you need to flick right with 1 finger.
---

Regards,

Alan

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Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:22 AM
Subject: Re: Barred app question


It's been a while since I've done it, but after making sure "I agree" is 
selected, look for a continue or next button.


I'm not sure what you mean by reading books directly on your iPhone, but 
you can download books directly from the BARD web site to your iPhone. 
they need to be on the recently added books list or in your wish list 
though. You can add books to your wish list directly from the BARD app or 
any browser.


On 10/01/2013 04:16 AM, Jen Colley wrote:

Hi,
I just installed the barred app and double tap on agree and all voice
over says is selected and unselected.  How do you get it to agree 
properly.

Also, can you read books dirrectly on to your iPhone?
Jen


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RE: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]

2013-10-01 Thread Rose Combs
Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else
left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my
devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen.  

I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing
in IOS 7.  Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem
like eye candy to me.  I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no
immediate plans to upgrade today.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]

Hi,

All you said is true.  But, that's not what I was getting at.  I was saying,
why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close?
Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen
in the app switcher.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua  wrote:

> Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time.
> Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close
> 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, 
> you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on 
> app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, 
> then back to the app switcher.
> In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally 
> different from iOS 6.
> 
> On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> You're right! Didn't think about that. :)
>> 
>> Very good point and I agree with you.
>> 
>> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO 
>> users or not. Now you've got me curious.
>> 
>> Will be exploring this with sighted friends.
>> 
>> Thanks and have a good night!
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker 
wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have 
>> been closed?  The app switcher in my opinion, should just close 
>> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action
left to perform.
>> 
>> For example, I have 2 apps running.  in the app switcher, I will see 
>> the 2 apps plus the home screen.  Cool.  But, once I've close those 2 
>> apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to 
>> close it and return to the home screen.  So, why then force the user 
>> to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a 
>> logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do?  
>> This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed 
>> in IOS 7.  Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the 
>> switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still 
>> do.  Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc.  But this is no 
>> longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to
control center.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>>> HI Ricardo,
>>> 
>>> Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the 
>>> screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6.
>>> 
>>> I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can 
>>> dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the 
>>> scrub that I know of.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask 
>>> someone.
>>> 
>>> Interesting discussion!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cara :)
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker 
wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Cara,
>>> 
>>> I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you've cleared all 
>>> the other apps from the switcher?  I mean, since you can't close 
>>> home, why bother having it as the last available option since 
>>> obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from 
>>> that point.  lol.  I think home shouldn't even be an option in the 
>>> app switcher.  Its border line ridiculous.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
 HI Christopher,
 
 For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than 
 to the next app in the switcher.
 
 Have a great day!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
 
 wrote:
 
 I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a 
 three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, 
 and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three 
 finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I 
 wonder why it works for me but not for you.
 
 Note 

Re: can folders take more apps under IOS7?

2013-10-01 Thread MamaPeach
Probably as much as your devices space will allow, lol.

From: kliphton 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 7:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: can folders take more apps under IOS7?

And I don't think there is a limit of the amount of pages that is in one 
folder.  I have a folder that has 125 apps, and 17 pages all in 1 folder.

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On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:01 AM, "MamaPeach"  wrote:


  You can have multiple pages of apps inside each folder. I have one folder 
that has 43 apps in it.

  From: goshawk on horseback
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:50 PM
  To: iphone-discussi...@yahoogroups.com ;iphone...@yahoogroups.com 
;viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: can folders take more apps under IOS7?

  hello all,
  since upgrading my iPhone 4S to IOS7, I have noticed that folders with I 
think it is more than 9 apps in them now have a page 2 for the remaining apps.
  does this mean that under IOS7, one can now put more than 12 apps in a 
folder, and if so, how many can folders take now?

  Simon


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RE: Audio player for MP3 audio books on IOS devices.

2013-10-01 Thread Rose Combs
I guess I just don't get the file sharing part of iTunes.  Oh, well maybe
the light will turn on some day.  I must admit I have not really tried hard,
too many things happening with real life issues like work, new insurance
issues, an ill husband so if I can't figure it out in a few minutes I move
on right now.  

 

 

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Of Brett
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio player for MP3 audio books on IOS devices.

 

Hi, 





When I import audio books, I usually do it through the file sharing section
of iTunes, as a book usually comprises 30 files or more. I can select them
all and import them in to downcast. They all end up in the one folder, by
deffault labelled with the date and time of the import. You can rename the
folder if you want, but I usually don't bother. 





The speed button is found in the bottom left corner of the screen when the
player controls are visible. 


Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone


On 1 Oct 2013, at 2:15 pm, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:

Hi'

 

Here are the steps I took to import a file and change speed of playback in
downcast. 

 

In my case I imported a file from filer. I double-tap and hold on it and
have one of the options to open in downcast. 

Then I return to downcast and land in the import file window. Here one can
select in which podcast to put the file and one also has to select it. I
think that I could have imported multiple files so here's where this could
be useful. 

The default import option was a new podcast. I left it unchanged. 

I tap import. 

 

Then I find the new podcast that has the name imported on date such and
such.  it shows 1 episode. I play it and flick right until, somewhere at
bottom of screen, I find a button labeled "normal speed is on" You can
either double-tap and cycle through options or double-tap and hold and open
up a list of all available playback speeds. 

 

Hope this made sense.

 

 

Best,

 

 

Ioana

 

 

 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:47 PM, "Terrie Terlau"  wrote:

I can send a book to Downcast, but I can't find a Speed control. So I echo
John's question.
Thanks.
Terrie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Audio player for MP3 audio books on IOS devices.

I haven't been able to figure out how to use Downcast for this. Can
you please explain.

On 9/30/13, Brett  wrote:



YHi,

 

I use Downcast. If you are already using it for your podcasts, why not

kill



two birds with one stone.

 

It will remember your place in the book, can continuously play all files

in



a folder, you can have it delete read files to save space on your phone if

you wish. You can also speed up playback.

 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

 

On 1 Oct 2013, at 5:27 am, "Robin Christopherson"

 wrote:

 

I use CloudBeats which is great too. If links with cloud services such as

Box or Dropbox and has a much nicer media player than that built into

those apps. Also, if you are listening to a book with multiple MP3 files

then, unlike those other apps, it moves seamlessly from one file to the

next to give unbroken playback without you having to navigate to the next

file and double tap to get it to start playing.

Also when you come back into CloudBeats it remembers where you were - but

this is probably standard behaviour.

Thanks, Robin.

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Re: Can you see a list of all the available audio books in the barred app and is there a link for books for kids and young readers?

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Paganelli
You can access any of the books via the app that you could online through your 
computer.  You can also view your history using the app or online.  Sense the 
bard site went on line, I have read over 700 books and magazines.  You can 
actually download those titles as welling our own history.  I think everybody 
has a list of titles that they would like to help on hand.  When you download a 
title again, it will then appear at the top of the list in your history.  I've 
saved some 400 plus NLS books on my hard drive because I thought I wouldn't 
mind reading them again.  Now with the bard app, I don't need to do that.  I 
have the keys to the library and can find something to read 24/7 and now the 
capability has been added to do that from anywhere.  Very handy when traveling. 
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Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  Move 
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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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  Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:51 AM
  Subject: Can you see a list of all the available audio books in the barred 
app and is there a link for books for kids and young readers?


  Hi,  
  I am new to barred and just installed the moble app.  
  I am wondering if I can see on the app a complete list of the audio books 
available through barred?  Also, is there a section for kids and young readers? 
 
  Jen  

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