RE: What 'sup with What'sapp?

2013-10-20 Thread Maria Kristic
Some other advantages of WhatsApp over the native Messages app, relating to
WhatsApp's Groups feature, besides the cross-platform compatibility, for
some use-cases: I like the ability to create named groups whose members you
can edit in WhatsApp. Unless I am missing something, using the native
Messages app, you cannot edit who the conversation is being sent to without
starting a new message thread containing a revised list of recipients. This
has been really helpful to me when members have been added to a team I am on
at a later date; we can just add them to the group, and they can see all
messages that we sent before they joined, so they can more quickly get up to
speed. Also in the native app, you cannot have names for groups as far as I
know; messages just list all recipients when you're going through
conversations. In WhatsApp, if you have created a group, the group name will
show when you are going through your conversation list or when you have a
conversation open, and, provided that the names and mobile numbers of group
members are in your Contacts, you will also see names of individual senders
when you are actually inside the thread and going through it. When you have
a notification of a new message coming in, the native app just tells you
that sender's name; if a message has been sent to a group you're part of in
WhatsApp, the notification tells you both the group and the sender. This
feature of named groups really helps me to be more organized and to more
quickly know who I am communicating with (i.e., I might name a group after
the specific team project we are working on, the specific organization we
are heading, etc.). 

Regards,
Maria

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Subject: Re: What 'sup with What'sapp?

Not really Ray unless you have family and friends who do not use iOS
devices. I use Whatsapp because I have friends who use Whatsapp on other
platforms, like Android.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 16/10/2013 14:24, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:
 fair point I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.


 Ray T. Mahorney
 WA4WGA


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 Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:38
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 Subject: Re: What 'sup with What'sapp?

 The main advantage of Whatsapp is that it's cross platform. Meaning 
 anyone with a Blackberry, a Nokia phone, a Windows phone or even an 
 Android phone can use Whatsapp. So no matter where the conversation
begins, it is not tied to iOS devices unlike iMessage.

 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com

 On 16/10/2013 10:34, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:
 The clever among you willhave caught the play on words.  Now, what is 
 it and what does it do that apps which are native to the device do not?


 Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: Handwriting

2013-10-20 Thread Bill Gallik
Well, now, I really like this handwriting feature in iOS 7.0.x, but can 
anybody suggest a good way to enter in a quotation mark or an apostrophe ?  
These seem to typically get interpreted as commas.

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Skype, facetime and phone volume

2013-10-20 Thread Joanne Chua
Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone here knows how to turn up Skype phone calls volume and 
turn down facetime audio and phone call volume?

I theoriticly need to turn voiceover down to 35% to get a decent audio belance 
between skype and VO on my iPad. On another hand, when i turn my phone volume 
to the lowest, and facetime audio volume, it is still very loud. 

Is there a way to control the volume seperetly? I don't able to find such 
setting anyware on skype setting, or on setting itself.

your help is very much appreciate

Thanks in advance

Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

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Cut Paste On an iDevice

2013-10-20 Thread Bill Gallik

How can Cut  Paste (or Copy  Paste) be done on an iPhone, etc?

Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn to do 
these sorts of things?


I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!

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RE: Cut Paste On an iDevice

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Bill,

Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of Podcasts and
one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.


Regards,
Sieghard


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How can Cut  Paste (or Copy  Paste) be done on an iPhone, etc?

Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn to do
these sorts of things?

I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!

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Re: Cut Paste On an iDevice

2013-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be warned, 
though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very challenging. In fact, 
I've used iOS for almost three years, and I still can't do it right most of the 
time.

1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the start of 
the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an editing text field to 
jump to the start, move with the rotor, whatever you want).
2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That is, if you 
rotor to words, you will select by word.
3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one rotor 
item. So, if you are still set to words, each pinch will highlight one word.
4. If you select too much, just pinch out to de-select by the current rotor 
item. You may change rotor items in the midst of a selection, so you could 
start by line and then choose words to select part of a line.
5. Once you have selected the text you want, rotor to edit, then flick up or 
down until you find the item you want (copy or cut) and double tap. You can 
also hit delete on the keyboard, or just start typing to replace the selected 
text.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Bill,
 
 Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of Podcasts and
 one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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 Of Bill Gallik
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 Subject: Cut  Paste On an iDevice
 
 How can Cut  Paste (or Copy  Paste) be done on an iPhone, etc?
 
 Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn to do
 these sorts of things?
 
 I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!
 
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RE: Cut Paste On an iDevice

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Alex,

It is actually pinch out for selecting text and pinch in for deselecting
text.
Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on the
screen like your are expanding

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Of Alex Hall
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Subject: Re: Cut  Paste On an iDevice

Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be warned,
though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very challenging. In fact,
I've used iOS for almost three years, and I still can't do it right most of
the time.

1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the start of
the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an editing text field
to jump to the start, move with the rotor, whatever you want).
2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That is, if
you rotor to words, you will select by word.
3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one rotor
item. So, if you are still set to words, each pinch will highlight one word.
4. If you select too much, just pinch out to de-select by the current rotor
item. You may change rotor items in the midst of a selection, so you could
start by line and then choose words to select part of a line.
5. Once you have selected the text you want, rotor to edit, then flick up
or down until you find the item you want (copy or cut) and double tap. You
can also hit delete on the keyboard, or just start typing to replace the
selected text.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Bill,
 
 Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of 
 Podcasts and one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:29 AM
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 Subject: Cut  Paste On an iDevice
 
 How can Cut  Paste (or Copy  Paste) be done on an iPhone, etc?
 
 Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn to 
 do these sorts of things?
 
 I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!
 
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bluetooth and functionality in iPhone 5s.

2013-10-20 Thread Pablo Morales
Hi all.
Well, It is something that is difficult to detect that is because the iPhone, 
or because the Bluetooth headphone. I don't think is because the headphone, is 
the same headphone that I was using with my iPhone 4.
Ok, I reset my Bluetooth headphone, and I paired it with my iPhone 5s. It is 
working while I play with this , and not problem calling, and using voiceover, 
even siri.
But After a while, my Bluetooth headphone, is not working no more, nothing, 
stopped. I press power button in the iPhone, and any sound appears in the 
Bluetooth headphone, or in the iPhone speaker. I try to do every thing that I 
can to make my phone talk again, but no way. Even though, if I turn the 
Bluetooth headphone off, then my iPhone starts to talk again.
Why it is happening?
I am talking about the same headphone that I was using with my old iPhone 4. 
Why it stops to work with my iPhone 5s?
Oh, and the battery of the bluetooth headphone is full, like the iPhone 5s also 
is full.

Thanks.
Pablo

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Re: A couple of iPhone 5S observations

2013-10-20 Thread Don Breda
This distortion is not a 5S issue. I have the same thing with the 5.

This I think is good news because it can be fixed with an IOS update
should they decide to fix it.

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Taptapsee and braille

2013-10-20 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi all,  I really wanted to demonstrate taptapsee to the ios club that I run 
through our local helen keller centre.  Unfortunately,  I can't find the 
results of a lookup using my braille display.  That renders the app pretty 
useless for the deaf-blind.  Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Erik Burggraaf
Ebony Consulting will close it's doors for good on december 20th.  Thanks to 
everyone who contributed to the past four years of success for my little 
consulting business.  It means a lot to me.
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
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Advices about headphones.

2013-10-20 Thread Pablo Morales
Hi all.
I am starting to think that the problem with my Bluetooth connection, is my 
Bluetooth headphone. So I would like to ask all of you, a kind of headphone 
with the following features.
1. It should not be embedded in the ear.
2. The device must go around the ear.
Any advice?
thanks
Pablo

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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-20 Thread Kimber Gardner
Courtney,

Are you connected to the internet when you try to play the book? If
not, try connecting to your wifi before attempting to play the book.

Kimber

On 10/19/13, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Thanks for this tip, but the problem I'm having is when I go to play any
 book, whether it's from the wishlist, or whether it's transferred with
 itunes. As of last night, I downloaded a book from the recently added books
 section, and I still had no luck. I'm going to restart my iPod touch and try
 it again, and if I still don't have any luck, I'll email support.
 Courtney


 Sent from my iMac

 On Oct 19, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote:

 The bard mobile support address is
 bardmobilesupp...@loc.gov

 Arnold Schmidt
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 Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:06 AM
 Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief


 Even though the government is back up and running, it may take them a
 while to get everything going smooth on the site and with the app. I
 submitted a problem report but have not received any acknowledgement
 of my message. Guess they have some catching up to do. If you are
 still getting the authorization trouble in a few days, email their
 main address:
 nlsb...@loc.gov
 I think the BARD Mobile support address is:
 nlsbardmob...@loc.gov
 but am not sure of that. I have never had any authorization issues
 when downloading books directly to my iPhone.

 Regards,
 Wayne

 On 10/18/13, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and transferred
 three via itunes.

 Alia
 On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,
 I tried downloading a couple of books from bard today, but they're
 still
 not authorizing, no matter what I do. I figured since the government
 was
 back up, maybe it would be fixed. Is anyone still having this problem?
 Thanks,

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Re: Handwriting

2013-10-20 Thread Gadget Girl
Start by making a period by placing one finger on the screen to make a dot.  
Then do a two finger swipe up or down to toggle to the punctuation mark you 
want.  This toggle method works in other modes as well.  For example, if you 
write the letter U and the letter V appears, you could use the two finger swipe 
down or up to toggle to the letter of choice.

Regards,
Gadget Girl Anita 
Sent from my Apple gadget.  Apple, Take a bite, Express yourself!

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 Well, now, I really like this handwriting feature in iOS 7.0.x, but can 
 anybody suggest a good way to enter in a quotation mark or an apostrophe ?  
 These seem to typically get interpreted as commas.
 
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RE: Skype, facetime and phone volume

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Joanne,

Theoretically you should just be able to use the volume buttons to increase
or decrease the volume while a call is going on. Having said this, there
definitely seem to be a few issues with Voiceover volume and other volume
levels in iOS 7. If, for example, I turn down the volume when I am playing
an Audible book, Voiceover volume goes down as well even if Voiceover is not
even speaking. This should not be happening and I just send a message to
Apple Accessibility about that. Hopefully others do as well and this is
fixed soon. But you should still be able to lower the volume of a Facetime
Audio call or increase the volume of a Skype call while the call is in
progress.
I actually just checked this by placing a call to the Sound Test service and
I was able to increase and decrease the volume while the announcement was
speaking with my phone held to my ear and using the volume buttons.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joanne Chua
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Skype, facetime and phone volume

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone here knows how to turn up Skype phone calls volume
and turn down facetime audio and phone call volume?

I theoriticly need to turn voiceover down to 35% to get a decent audio
belance between skype and VO on my iPad. On another hand, when i turn my
phone volume to the lowest, and facetime audio volume, it is still very
loud. 

Is there a way to control the volume seperetly? I don't able to find such
setting anyware on skype setting, or on setting itself.

your help is very much appreciate

Thanks in advance

Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

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RE: Taptapsee and braille

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Eric,

 

As far as I can tell Tap Tap See only speaks the results and you can repeat
it by tapping the Repeat button, but I don't think it is displayed on the
screen where you could review it either with Voiceover or by using a braille
display. It never occurred to me why this might be important and it's
probably something you should suggest to the developer.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of erik burggraaf
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Taptapsee and braille

 

Hi all,  I really wanted to demonstrate taptapsee to the ios club that I run
through our local helen keller centre.  Unfortunately,  I can't find the
results of a lookup using my braille display.  That renders the app pretty
useless for the deaf-blind.  Am I missing something?

 

Thanks,

 

Erik Burggraaf

Ebony Consulting will close it's doors for good on december 20th.  Thanks to
everyone who contributed to the past four years of success for my little
consulting business.  It means a lot to me.

Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194

or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

 

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Re: Skype, facetime and phone volume

2013-10-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I’m not sure I understand.  If you turn down the volume while listening to an 
audible book, does the actual Voiceover volume in the rotor gets turned down?  
Or does all system volume turn down.  If the second, this is standard behavior.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Joanne,
 
 Theoretically you should just be able to use the volume buttons to increase
 or decrease the volume while a call is going on. Having said this, there
 definitely seem to be a few issues with Voiceover volume and other volume
 levels in iOS 7. If, for example, I turn down the volume when I am playing
 an Audible book, Voiceover volume goes down as well even if Voiceover is not
 even speaking. This should not be happening and I just send a message to
 Apple Accessibility about that. Hopefully others do as well and this is
 fixed soon. But you should still be able to lower the volume of a Facetime
 Audio call or increase the volume of a Skype call while the call is in
 progress.
 I actually just checked this by placing a call to the Sound Test service and
 I was able to increase and decrease the volume while the announcement was
 speaking with my phone held to my ear and using the volume buttons.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joanne Chua
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Skype, facetime and phone volume
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if anyone here knows how to turn up Skype phone calls volume
 and turn down facetime audio and phone call volume?
 
 I theoriticly need to turn voiceover down to 35% to get a decent audio
 belance between skype and VO on my iPad. On another hand, when i turn my
 phone volume to the lowest, and facetime audio volume, it is still very
 loud. 
 
 Is there a way to control the volume seperetly? I don't able to find such
 setting anyware on skype setting, or on setting itself.
 
 your help is very much appreciate
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Joanne Chua
 The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
 Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
 Send from my iPad
 
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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-20 Thread Moop
Hi Kimber,
Yes, I'm connected to the internet, I emailed bard yesterday, hopefully, I'll 
hear back this week..
Courtney

Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:
Courtney,

Are you connected to the internet when you try to play the book? If
not, try connecting to your wifi before attempting to play the book.

Kimber

On 10/19/13, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Thanks for this tip, but the problem I'm having is when I go to play
any
 book, whether it's from the wishlist, or whether it's transferred
with
 itunes. As of last night, I downloaded a book from the recently added
books
 section, and I still had no luck. I'm going to restart my iPod touch
and try
 it again, and if I still don't have any luck, I'll email support.
 Courtney


 Sent from my iMac

 On Oct 19, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
wrote:

 The bard mobile support address is
 bardmobilesupp...@loc.gov

 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt
wcmerr...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:06 AM
 Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief


 Even though the government is back up and running, it may take them
a
 while to get everything going smooth on the site and with the app.
I
 submitted a problem report but have not received any
acknowledgement
 of my message. Guess they have some catching up to do. If you are
 still getting the authorization trouble in a few days, email their
 main address:
 nlsb...@loc.gov
 I think the BARD Mobile support address is:
 nlsbardmob...@loc.gov
 but am not sure of that. I have never had any authorization issues
 when downloading books directly to my iPhone.

 Regards,
 Wayne

 On 10/18/13, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and
transferred
 three via itunes.

 Alia
 On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,
 I tried downloading a couple of books from bard today, but
they're
 still
 not authorizing, no matter what I do. I figured since the
government
 was
 back up, maybe it would be fixed. Is anyone still having this
problem?
 Thanks,

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RE: Handwriting

2013-10-20 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Bill,

 

I have had some success doing quotation marks by very quickly doing 2
commas.  I can't count on results so I simply do a period and flick down
with 2 fingers and, for those hard to get,  I simply select the mark I want.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

Falling down is part of LIFE...

Getting back up is LIVING...

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Bill Gallik
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting

 

Well, now, I really like this handwriting feature in iOS 7.0.x, but can
anybody suggest a good way to enter in a quotation mark or an apostrophe ?
These seem to typically get interpreted as commas.


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still having passcode problems

2013-10-20 Thread Regina Alvarado
Oh Grant and anyone else with suggestions, thank you from me and my iPad! Have 
it in recovery mode now again and so far so good. Tried twice last night, but 
it gets to a certain point in the download and stops making a ding on computer 
like it spit out the usb. So far no ding. 41 minutes. OOPS, did it just now. 
Says I need my passcode? Ug! Ug! Find my iPhone says administrator's iPad not 
on find my iPad. Will try again, but any other ideas? Could just cry! All I 
wanted was it to look like my phone! Wonder why it took the wrong passcode. 



reggie and Allegra

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RE: New iPhone 5s.

2013-10-20 Thread Ed Barnes
Hey Pablo, I am glad to hear that you understand that my intention was help
and that there was definitely no harm meant - have a good week-end, Ed.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone 5s.

Hi ED.
That's ok. Dont worry, i know that your intention was help.
P

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 Hi Pablo, thanks for the clarification on what you are trying to do.
 When I read message 1 which you sent to the list I was unsure if you 
 were trying to copy everything from your old iPhone 4 unto your 5 or 
 and keep the things that are already on the 5 as well, or if you were 
 trying to simply copy everything on your iPhone 5 to a new 5S.
 I just read the messages which came into my inbox bbetween yesterday 
 morning and now as I only read this list about once a day, and having 
 read those messages thing are now much clearer to me.
 Further, Sieghard has already answered your query so I won't re-write 
 most of the things he has already stated.
 Lastly, I did not mean any offense when I stated that I did not 
 understand your first message, infact, if I wrote something that was 
 not clear I would hope you would tell me if my message did not make 
 any sense too. :) I suppose anyone who knows me well personally for a 
 long time can tell you that I'm pretty blunt, this is true when I 
 write emails as well, good luck with your new phone.
 Ed


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Pablo Morales
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:44 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: New iPhone 5s.

 Good morning ED.
 Yes, english is not my main language, but let me clarify this; 1. What 
 does Even though mean for you?
 When I say that I cancelled my order, even though USPS sent me a 
 notification that my iPhone 5s will arrive today, what does that mean 
 for you?
 In spanish, that means that when I did something to stop the process 
 buying a iPhone 5s, t-mobile sent the iPhone 5s anyway.
 2. Later I say that I want to transfer my contacts, email account from 
 my old iPhone 4, to the new one, it means the iPhone 5s that is 
 arriving today.
 Why you understand that I want to merge both iDevices personal and 
 business together?
 Yes, I  know that english is not my main language, and I am so 
 thankful with your concern about my english. Even though, I do not see 
 that my email doesn't make sense.
 I hope that my responses are clear for you.
 P

 On 10/17/13, Ed Barnes edbarn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good morning Pablo, I realize that english may not be your first 
 language, your message does not make any sense, at the top of your 
 message you indicate that you have cancelled your order for an iPhone 
 5S, however; at the bottom you indicate that you want to transfer all 
 content from your iPhone 4 to an iPhone 5S

 Next question, are you keeping your iPhone 5 as the business phone 
 and the new iPhone 5S will be your personal iPhone or are you trying 
 to integrate all the stuff unto one phone.

 Hope these questions help us get to the bottom of your query.

 Ed





 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Pablo Morales
 Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:18 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: New iPhone 5s.



 Hi all.

 Well, a few days, this last Thursday, I cancelled my order with 
 t-mobile for an iPhone 5s that I bought with them, because the delay 
 for the delivery.
 Even though, yesterday, I received a notification from USPS saying 
 that my iPhone 5s comes today. It is crazy.

 Well, the point is this. I have 2 iPhones, one for personal 
 things,iPhone 4, and other for business iPhone 5. Both has different 
 content and different apple account.

 Now, I don't know, what I have to do to replace the functionality of 
 my older iPhone 4. I mean,I want to give my iPhone 4 to my friend, 
 and transfer the apple account to my new iPhone 5s, contacts, 
 business email account, bookmarks, personal email account, personal 
 phone book, and apps.

 What I have to do, to transfer the whole content of my older iPhone 
 4, to a new iPhone 5s?

 Thanks in advance.

 Pablo



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RE: Skype, facetime and phone volume

2013-10-20 Thread Ron Pelletier
Sieghard,

I also wrote to Apple concerning the volume problems.  They told me they
know about the problem but can't give me any idea as to when it will be
resolved.Meanwhile They gave me 2 work-arounds that don't work.  One was to
press the lock button (not the home button) five times and the other was to
go into an app such as music and raise the volume to the desired level.
That doesn't work either so I wrote back and was told again that they can't
tell me when it will be fixed but they are working on it.  This time, there
were no work-around solutions.  I know from experience that, if you really
want to do it you can by doing a complete reset of your phone and then make
sure you don't lower your volume below the magic 35% level.  I found that
out when I had to reset for another reason but I'm not willing to do that
again.  I'll just wait.  Meanwhile, I'm using my phone at 35% or lower.

Ron  Danvers


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype, facetime and phone volume

Hi Joanne,

Theoretically you should just be able to use the volume buttons to increase
or decrease the volume while a call is going on. Having said this, there
definitely seem to be a few issues with Voiceover volume and other volume
levels in iOS 7. If, for example, I turn down the volume when I am playing
an Audible book, Voiceover volume goes down as well even if Voiceover is not
even speaking. This should not be happening and I just send a message to
Apple Accessibility about that. Hopefully others do as well and this is
fixed soon. But you should still be able to lower the volume of a Facetime
Audio call or increase the volume of a Skype call while the call is in
progress.
I actually just checked this by placing a call to the Sound Test service and
I was able to increase and decrease the volume while the announcement was
speaking with my phone held to my ear and using the volume buttons.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joanne Chua
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Skype, facetime and phone volume

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone here knows how to turn up Skype phone calls volume
and turn down facetime audio and phone call volume?

I theoriticly need to turn voiceover down to 35% to get a decent audio
belance between skype and VO on my iPad. On another hand, when i turn my
phone volume to the lowest, and facetime audio volume, it is still very
loud. 

Is there a way to control the volume seperetly? I don't able to find such
setting anyware on skype setting, or on setting itself.

your help is very much appreciate

Thanks in advance

Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
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RE: Skype, facetime and phone volume

2013-10-20 Thread Ron Pelletier
Ricardo,

The point is that if you lower your volume lower than 35% you can't raise it
again above that unless you do a full reset on your phone which I did but, I
stupidly went below 35% and I would have to reset again and I won't.

Ron  Danvers


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:09 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Skype, facetime and phone volume

Hi,

I'm not sure I understand.  If you turn down the volume while listening to
an audible book, does the actual Voiceover volume in the rotor gets turned
down?  Or does all system volume turn down.  If the second, this is standard
behavior.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Joanne,
 
 Theoretically you should just be able to use the volume buttons to 
 increase or decrease the volume while a call is going on. Having said 
 this, there definitely seem to be a few issues with Voiceover volume 
 and other volume levels in iOS 7. If, for example, I turn down the 
 volume when I am playing an Audible book, Voiceover volume goes down 
 as well even if Voiceover is not even speaking. This should not be 
 happening and I just send a message to Apple Accessibility about that. 
 Hopefully others do as well and this is fixed soon. But you should 
 still be able to lower the volume of a Facetime Audio call or increase 
 the volume of a Skype call while the call is in progress.
 I actually just checked this by placing a call to the Sound Test 
 service and I was able to increase and decrease the volume while the 
 announcement was speaking with my phone held to my ear and using the
volume buttons.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Joanne Chua
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Skype, facetime and phone volume
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if anyone here knows how to turn up Skype phone calls 
 volume and turn down facetime audio and phone call volume?
 
 I theoriticly need to turn voiceover down to 35% to get a decent audio 
 belance between skype and VO on my iPad. On another hand, when i turn 
 my phone volume to the lowest, and facetime audio volume, it is still 
 very loud.
 
 Is there a way to control the volume seperetly? I don't able to find 
 such setting anyware on skype setting, or on setting itself.
 
 your help is very much appreciate
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Joanne Chua
 The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
 Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
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RE: Skype, facetime and phone volume

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ron,

I also can't raise the Voiceover volume above 35% using the volume rotor,
but this does not seem to apply to the volume buttons. If you get Voiceover
to read continuously and then press the volume up button it goes really
loud.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 8:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype, facetime and phone volume

Sieghard,

I also wrote to Apple concerning the volume problems.  They told me they
know about the problem but can't give me any idea as to when it will be
resolved.Meanwhile They gave me 2 work-arounds that don't work.  One was to
press the lock button (not the home button) five times and the other was to
go into an app such as music and raise the volume to the desired level.
That doesn't work either so I wrote back and was told again that they can't
tell me when it will be fixed but they are working on it.  This time, there
were no work-around solutions.  I know from experience that, if you really
want to do it you can by doing a complete reset of your phone and then make
sure you don't lower your volume below the magic 35% level.  I found that
out when I had to reset for another reason but I'm not willing to do that
again.  I'll just wait.  Meanwhile, I'm using my phone at 35% or lower.

Ron  Danvers


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Skype, facetime and phone volume

Hi Joanne,

Theoretically you should just be able to use the volume buttons to increase
or decrease the volume while a call is going on. Having said this, there
definitely seem to be a few issues with Voiceover volume and other volume
levels in iOS 7. If, for example, I turn down the volume when I am playing
an Audible book, Voiceover volume goes down as well even if Voiceover is not
even speaking. This should not be happening and I just send a message to
Apple Accessibility about that. Hopefully others do as well and this is
fixed soon. But you should still be able to lower the volume of a Facetime
Audio call or increase the volume of a Skype call while the call is in
progress.
I actually just checked this by placing a call to the Sound Test service and
I was able to increase and decrease the volume while the announcement was
speaking with my phone held to my ear and using the volume buttons.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joanne Chua
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Skype, facetime and phone volume

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone here knows how to turn up Skype phone calls volume
and turn down facetime audio and phone call volume?

I theoriticly need to turn voiceover down to 35% to get a decent audio
belance between skype and VO on my iPad. On another hand, when i turn my
phone volume to the lowest, and facetime audio volume, it is still very
loud. 

Is there a way to control the volume seperetly? I don't able to find such
setting anyware on skype setting, or on setting itself.

your help is very much appreciate

Thanks in advance

Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
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RE: Skype, facetime and phone volume

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ricardo,

Normally it is not standard behavior that Voiceover volume is connected to
the volume of music or an audio book that is playing. On my 4S I don't think
I had this issue so I think it's less of an iOS 7 issue than a 5S issue.
Anyways, consider this:

I am playing an Audible book and I have my phone locked and before I locked
it Voiceover was set to a comfortable volume.
Now when the phone is locked I turn down the book way low.
Now I press the home key to unlock the phone and suddenly Voiceover is so
quiet that I can barely hear it.

Also consider this:

I raise volume on the volume rotor all the way to 35% which, as Ron pointed
out, is as high as it will go.
Now I do a 2-finger swipe up on the home screen to get Voiceover to start
reading continuously and I now use the volume down button to lower Voiceover
volume so I can just hear it.
Now I check the volume rotor by flicking up and it is still at 35%.
In the same way I can turn volume on the rotor down to 1% which is as low as
it will go, then I get Voiceover to start speaking and I can use the volume
up key to make it so loud that it distorts, but the rotor volume is still at
1%.

There is something very wrong, it's not a total dealbreaker and you just
have to use the volume keys a lot to set your Voiceover volume where you
want it since  you aren't able to set it independently or use the volume on
the rotor to do so. The only place where it's annoying is during a phone
call, but that part was never right on my 4S after iOS 5 so it's nothing new
except that I hoped on the 5S it was once again possible to balance the
volume of a call on speakerphone and Voiceover volume independently using
the volume keys to turn call volume down and volume on the rotor to turn
Voiceover volume up. I don't know if you have a 5S, but it definitely seems
that this is the same for all 5S users and not one of these things which
affects only a small percentage of users. Anyhow, I am fairly confident
Apple will fix this, they may say they have no estimated time when this will
be fixed, but I'm sure they prefer to say that even if they might have it
fixed in the next update which I suspect will be out in a few weeks.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:09 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Skype, facetime and phone volume

Hi,

I'm not sure I understand.  If you turn down the volume while listening to
an audible book, does the actual Voiceover volume in the rotor gets turned
down?  Or does all system volume turn down.  If the second, this is standard
behavior.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Joanne,
 
 Theoretically you should just be able to use the volume buttons to
increase
 or decrease the volume while a call is going on. Having said this, there
 definitely seem to be a few issues with Voiceover volume and other volume
 levels in iOS 7. If, for example, I turn down the volume when I am playing
 an Audible book, Voiceover volume goes down as well even if Voiceover is
not
 even speaking. This should not be happening and I just send a message to
 Apple Accessibility about that. Hopefully others do as well and this is
 fixed soon. But you should still be able to lower the volume of a Facetime
 Audio call or increase the volume of a Skype call while the call is in
 progress.
 I actually just checked this by placing a call to the Sound Test service
and
 I was able to increase and decrease the volume while the announcement was
 speaking with my phone held to my ear and using the volume buttons.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joanne Chua
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Skype, facetime and phone volume
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if anyone here knows how to turn up Skype phone calls
volume
 and turn down facetime audio and phone call volume?
 
 I theoriticly need to turn voiceover down to 35% to get a decent audio
 belance between skype and VO on my iPad. On another hand, when i turn my
 phone volume to the lowest, and facetime audio volume, it is still very
 loud. 
 
 Is there a way to control the volume seperetly? I don't able to find such
 setting anyware on skype setting, or on setting itself.
 
 your help is very much appreciate
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Joanne Chua
 The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
 Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-20 Thread Russ Kiehne
You don't need to be connected to the internet when reading a book.  The 
only time you need to be connected is when you download a book or use itunes 
to transfer a book to your device.


-Original Message- 
From: Moop

Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

Hi Kimber,
Yes, I'm connected to the internet, I emailed bard yesterday, hopefully, 
I'll hear back this week..

Courtney


Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote: Courtney,

Are you connected to the internet when you try to play the book? If
not, try connecting to your wifi before attempting to play the book.

Kimber

On 10/19/13, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for this tip, but the problem I'm having is when I go to play any
book, whether it's from the wishlist, or whether it's transferred with
itunes. As of last night, I downloaded a book from the recently added books
section, and I still had no luck. I'm going to restart my iPod touch and try
it again, and if I still don't have any luck, I'll email support.
Courtney


Sent from my iMac

On Oct 19, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote:

The bard mobile support address is
bardmobilesupp...@loc.gov

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief


Even though the government is back up and running, it may take them a
while to get everything going smooth on the site and with the app. I
submitted a problem report but have not received any acknowledgement
of my message. Guess they have some catching up to do. If you are
still getting the authorization trouble in a few days, email their
main address:
nlsb...@loc.gov
I think the BARD Mobile support address is:
nlsbardmob...@loc.gov
but am not sure of that. I have never had any authorization issues
when downloading books directly to my iPhone.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/18/13, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and transferred
three via itunes.

Alia
On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi,
I tried downloading a couple of books from bard today, but they're
still
not authorizing, no matter what I do. I figured since the government
was
back up, maybe it would be fixed. Is anyone still having this problem?
Thanks,
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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You do need to be connected to the INTERNET when you first start playing 
a book that you transferred to your iPhone using iTunes, DropBox and so 
on. this is for your authorization to be checked. You don't need to be 
connected to the INTERNET to listen to a book you download straight to 
your iPhone through the BARD app or that you've already started 
listening to.


On 10/20/2013 10:51 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:

You don't need to be connected to the internet when reading a book.  The
only time you need to be connected is when you download a book or use
itunes to transfer a book to your device.

-Original Message- From: Moop
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

Hi Kimber,
Yes, I'm connected to the internet, I emailed bard yesterday, hopefully,
I'll hear back this week..
Courtney


Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote: Courtney,

Are you connected to the internet when you try to play the book? If
not, try connecting to your wifi before attempting to play the book.

Kimber

On 10/19/13, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for this tip, but the problem I'm having is when I go to play any
book, whether it's from the wishlist, or whether it's transferred with
itunes. As of last night, I downloaded a book from the recently added books
section, and I still had no luck. I'm going to restart my iPod touch and
try
it again, and if I still don't have any luck, I'll email support.
Courtney


Sent from my iMac

On Oct 19, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote:

The bard mobile support address is
bardmobilesupp...@loc.gov

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief


Even though the government is back up and running, it may take them a
while to get everything going smooth on the site and with the app. I
submitted a problem report but have not received any acknowledgement
of my message. Guess they have some catching up to do. If you are
still getting the authorization trouble in a few days, email their
main address:
nlsb...@loc.gov
I think the BARD Mobile support address is:
nlsbardmob...@loc.gov
but am not sure of that. I have never had any authorization issues
when downloading books directly to my iPhone.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/18/13, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and transferred
three via itunes.

Alia
On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi,
I tried downloading a couple of books from bard today, but they're
still
not authorizing, no matter what I do. I figured since the government
was
back up, maybe it would be fixed. Is anyone still having this problem?
Thanks,
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2013-10-20 Thread robert stigile

Hello All,
The other day, I noticed, that when I reply to a e-mail on my 
phone, even though I double tap to make sure that it says 
insertion point at start, it is putting my message under the 
origonal message.
I am wondering, if anyone knows, how I can change it back, so 
that my message is on top.

Thanks,

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Re: Taptapsee and braille

2013-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
I haven't tested the app much. I'll say this though: if the app speaks a result 
and it flashes on the display, you cna toggle a history of such announcements 
with space-n. That might allow you to review the results, but again I'm not 
sure.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Eric,
  
 As far as I can tell Tap Tap See only speaks the results and you can repeat 
 it by tapping the Repeat button, but I don’t think it is displayed on the 
 screen where you could review it either with Voiceover or by using a braille 
 display. It never occurred to me why this might be important and it’s 
 probably something you should suggest to the developer.
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 erik burggraaf
 Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 8:56 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Taptapsee and braille
  
 Hi all,  I really wanted to demonstrate taptapsee to the ios club that I run 
 through our local helen keller centre.  Unfortunately,  I can't find the 
 results of a lookup using my braille display.  That renders the app pretty 
 useless for the deaf-blind.  Am I missing something?
  
 Thanks,
  
 Erik Burggraaf
 Ebony Consulting will close it's doors for good on december 20th.  Thanks to 
 everyone who contributed to the past four years of success for my little 
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Re: Skype, facetime and phone volume

2013-10-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

So your saying, if for example, on your 4S, if you are listening to music and 
lower the volume, Voiceover volume isn’t lowered at the same time?  So then, 
you would eventually reach a state where your music volume was lowered all the 
way but, Voiceover volume is still the same?  I honestly can’t remember this 
behavior.  At least, not in IOS 6 or IOS 5.
Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 20, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Ricardo,
 
 Normally it is not standard behavior that Voiceover volume is connected to
 the volume of music or an audio book that is playing. On my 4S I don't think
 I had this issue so I think it's less of an iOS 7 issue than a 5S issue.
 Anyways, consider this:
 
 I am playing an Audible book and I have my phone locked and before I locked
 it Voiceover was set to a comfortable volume.
 Now when the phone is locked I turn down the book way low.
 Now I press the home key to unlock the phone and suddenly Voiceover is so
 quiet that I can barely hear it.
 
 Also consider this:
 
 I raise volume on the volume rotor all the way to 35% which, as Ron pointed
 out, is as high as it will go.
 Now I do a 2-finger swipe up on the home screen to get Voiceover to start
 reading continuously and I now use the volume down button to lower Voiceover
 volume so I can just hear it.
 Now I check the volume rotor by flicking up and it is still at 35%.
 In the same way I can turn volume on the rotor down to 1% which is as low as
 it will go, then I get Voiceover to start speaking and I can use the volume
 up key to make it so loud that it distorts, but the rotor volume is still at
 1%.
 
 There is something very wrong, it's not a total dealbreaker and you just
 have to use the volume keys a lot to set your Voiceover volume where you
 want it since  you aren't able to set it independently or use the volume on
 the rotor to do so. The only place where it's annoying is during a phone
 call, but that part was never right on my 4S after iOS 5 so it's nothing new
 except that I hoped on the 5S it was once again possible to balance the
 volume of a call on speakerphone and Voiceover volume independently using
 the volume keys to turn call volume down and volume on the rotor to turn
 Voiceover volume up. I don't know if you have a 5S, but it definitely seems
 that this is the same for all 5S users and not one of these things which
 affects only a small percentage of users. Anyhow, I am fairly confident
 Apple will fix this, they may say they have no estimated time when this will
 be fixed, but I'm sure they prefer to say that even if they might have it
 fixed in the next update which I suspect will be out in a few weeks.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:09 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Re: Skype, facetime and phone volume
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm not sure I understand.  If you turn down the volume while listening to
 an audible book, does the actual Voiceover volume in the rotor gets turned
 down?  Or does all system volume turn down.  If the second, this is standard
 behavior.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Joanne,
 
 Theoretically you should just be able to use the volume buttons to
 increase
 or decrease the volume while a call is going on. Having said this, there
 definitely seem to be a few issues with Voiceover volume and other volume
 levels in iOS 7. If, for example, I turn down the volume when I am playing
 an Audible book, Voiceover volume goes down as well even if Voiceover is
 not
 even speaking. This should not be happening and I just send a message to
 Apple Accessibility about that. Hopefully others do as well and this is
 fixed soon. But you should still be able to lower the volume of a Facetime
 Audio call or increase the volume of a Skype call while the call is in
 progress.
 I actually just checked this by placing a call to the Sound Test service
 and
 I was able to increase and decrease the volume while the announcement was
 speaking with my phone held to my ear and using the volume buttons.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joanne Chua
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Skype, facetime and phone volume
 
 Hi all,
 
 Just wondering if anyone here knows how to turn up Skype phone calls
 volume
 and turn down facetime audio and phone call volume?
 
 I theoriticly need to turn voiceover down to 35% to get a decent audio
 belance between skype and VO on my iPad. On another hand, when i turn my
 phone volume to the lowest, and facetime audio volume, it is still very
 loud. 
 
 Is there 

Re: Cut Paste On an iDevice

2013-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had 
something wrong, but wasn't sure what.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Alex,
 
 It is actually pinch out for selecting text and pinch in for deselecting
 text.
 Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on the
 screen like your are expanding
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Cut  Paste On an iDevice
 
 Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be warned,
 though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very challenging. In fact,
 I've used iOS for almost three years, and I still can't do it right most of
 the time.
 
 1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the start of
 the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an editing text field
 to jump to the start, move with the rotor, whatever you want).
 2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That is, if
 you rotor to words, you will select by word.
 3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one rotor
 item. So, if you are still set to words, each pinch will highlight one word.
 4. If you select too much, just pinch out to de-select by the current rotor
 item. You may change rotor items in the midst of a selection, so you could
 start by line and then choose words to select part of a line.
 5. Once you have selected the text you want, rotor to edit, then flick up
 or down until you find the item you want (copy or cut) and double tap. You
 can also hit delete on the keyboard, or just start typing to replace the
 selected text.
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of 
 Podcasts and one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Bill Gallik
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:29 AM
 To: List, viPhone
 Subject: Cut  Paste On an iDevice
 
 How can Cut  Paste (or Copy  Paste) be done on an iPhone, etc?
 
 Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn to 
 do these sorts of things?
 
 I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!
 
 Holland's Boy, Bill
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 - Napoleon Hill, American author in the area of the new thought 
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editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver

2013-10-20 Thread Ryan Mann
I believe this topic has been discussed before, but sometimes apps change. Is 
there any app that is accessible with VoiceOver that would allow me to edit an 
Excel spreadsheet on my iPhone or an iPad?
Thanks.
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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-20 Thread Russ Kiehne

JThat what I said.

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

You do need to be connected to the INTERNET when you first start playing
a book that you transferred to your iPhone using iTunes, DropBox and so
on. this is for your authorization to be checked. You don't need to be
connected to the INTERNET to listen to a book you download straight to
your iPhone through the BARD app or that you've already started
listening to.

On 10/20/2013 10:51 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:

You don't need to be connected to the internet when reading a book.  The
only time you need to be connected is when you download a book or use
itunes to transfer a book to your device.

-Original Message- From: Moop
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

Hi Kimber,
Yes, I'm connected to the internet, I emailed bard yesterday, hopefully,
I'll hear back this week..
Courtney


Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote: Courtney,

Are you connected to the internet when you try to play the book? If
not, try connecting to your wifi before attempting to play the book.

Kimber

On 10/19/13, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for this tip, but the problem I'm having is when I go to play any
book, whether it's from the wishlist, or whether it's transferred with
itunes. As of last night, I downloaded a book from the recently added 
books

section, and I still had no luck. I'm going to restart my iPod touch and
try
it again, and if I still don't have any luck, I'll email support.
Courtney


Sent from my iMac

On Oct 19, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com 
wrote:


The bard mobile support address is
bardmobilesupp...@loc.gov

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief


Even though the government is back up and running, it may take them a
while to get everything going smooth on the site and with the app. I
submitted a problem report but have not received any acknowledgement
of my message. Guess they have some catching up to do. If you are
still getting the authorization trouble in a few days, email their
main address:
nlsb...@loc.gov
I think the BARD Mobile support address is:
nlsbardmob...@loc.gov
but am not sure of that. I have never had any authorization issues
when downloading books directly to my iPhone.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/18/13, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and transferred
three via itunes.

Alia
On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi,
I tried downloading a couple of books from bard today, but they're
still
not authorizing, no matter what I do. I figured since the government
was
back up, maybe it would be fixed. Is anyone still having this problem?
Thanks,
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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain

This is easy enough to check in the App Store, but google Maps is 12.8M.

On 10/20/2013 12:14 AM, Gary Petraccaro wrote:

Do you happen to know what the size is?
Thanks.

- Original Message - From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: GPS apps.


I would try google maps, it is free and will provide walking directions.
On Oct 19, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Lelia leliastr...@samobile.net wrote:


Hello all, here is my deal, I don't have people who can usually give
me rides, so I need is an app that will give me turn by turn
directions when I am walking. So can anybody tell me what the best GPS
would be, I know that  some GPS apps cost a lot of money, I just
listen to the podcast on the seeing eye app and I know that the
subscription fee is $69 per year, I really liked it but I don't want
to spend money on something that isn't going to do me any good. Any
tips would be greatly appreciated and thank you.
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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Sorry about that. I read your message to say that you needed an INTERNET 
connection when transferring a book over with iTunes. My understanding 
is that you don't need an internet connection during the transfer but 
you will when you go to play that book that you have transferred with 
iTunes. Since this is what I thought you said, I thought it needed a 
clarification to avoid confusion. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.


On 10/20/2013 11:20 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:

JThat what I said.

-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

You do need to be connected to the INTERNET when you first start playing
a book that you transferred to your iPhone using iTunes, DropBox and so
on. this is for your authorization to be checked. You don't need to be
connected to the INTERNET to listen to a book you download straight to
your iPhone through the BARD app or that you've already started
listening to.

On 10/20/2013 10:51 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:

You don't need to be connected to the internet when reading a book.  The
only time you need to be connected is when you download a book or use
itunes to transfer a book to your device.

-Original Message- From: Moop
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

Hi Kimber,
Yes, I'm connected to the internet, I emailed bard yesterday, hopefully,
I'll hear back this week..
Courtney


Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote: Courtney,

Are you connected to the internet when you try to play the book? If
not, try connecting to your wifi before attempting to play the book.

Kimber

On 10/19/13, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for this tip, but the problem I'm having is when I go to play any
book, whether it's from the wishlist, or whether it's transferred with
itunes. As of last night, I downloaded a book from the recently added
books
section, and I still had no luck. I'm going to restart my iPod touch and
try
it again, and if I still don't have any luck, I'll email support.
Courtney


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The bard mobile support address is
bardmobilesupp...@loc.gov

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief


Even though the government is back up and running, it may take them a
while to get everything going smooth on the site and with the app. I
submitted a problem report but have not received any acknowledgement
of my message. Guess they have some catching up to do. If you are
still getting the authorization trouble in a few days, email their
main address:
nlsb...@loc.gov
I think the BARD Mobile support address is:
nlsbardmob...@loc.gov
but am not sure of that. I have never had any authorization issues
when downloading books directly to my iPhone.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/18/13, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and transferred
three via itunes.

Alia
On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi,
I tried downloading a couple of books from bard today, but they're
still
not authorizing, no matter what I do. I figured since the government
was
back up, maybe it would be fixed. Is anyone still having this problem?
Thanks,
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Re: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver

2013-10-20 Thread Tom Lange

Hi,
The Numbers app is supposed to let you view, create and edit spreadsheets. 
I played with it a long time ago and found that it was way more hassle than 
it was worth, but it may have improved considerably since then.


Tom

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver


I believe this topic has been discussed before, but sometimes apps change. 
Is there any app that is accessible with VoiceOver that would allow me to 
edit an Excel spreadsheet on my iPhone or an iPad?

Thanks.
Follow me on twitter @progressivecat.


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RE: Advices about headphones.

2013-10-20 Thread SSEric
Pablo, I continue to recommend the Plantronics Backbeat 903 Plus as the best
for sound and comfort in the mid to low cost range Bluetooth headphones.
They are stereo. The one downfall, which is common to almost all Bluetooth
devices regardless of cost, is the microphone. The truest test of this is
how well it works with Seri. But, for phone calls and listening to Voiceover
or other audio, these are my favorite over the past few years, and trust me
that I have had plenty over that time. Here is the Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/Plantronics-BackBeat-903-Headset-Frustration/dp/B00AFG
P5MM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1382287052sr=8-2keywords=PLANTRONICS+903

Eric


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Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Advices about headphones.

Hi all.
I am starting to think that the problem with my Bluetooth connection, is my
Bluetooth headphone. So I would like to ask all of you, a kind of headphone
with the following features.
1. It should not be embedded in the ear.
2. The device must go around the ear.
Any advice?
thanks
Pablo
 

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Dictate button to left of space bar

2013-10-20 Thread Chris Chaffin

Hi all,
I just recently updated my iPhone 5 to iOS7 a couple of days ago from 6.1.4.
I know it was reported that there was no longer a dictate button beside the 
space bar in iOS 7, but that is what I am finding strange, and has made me 
wonder.
I still have a dictate button to the left of the space bar on the on screen 
keyboard.
I have checked in the app store, spotlight search, and many other apps that 
have edit fields.

And if I flick left from the space bar, there is the dictate button.

Does anyone know why I still have the dictate button while running the 
latest version of iOS 7?

Things that make you go hmmm!

Chris Chaffin

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Re: Taptapsee and braille

2013-10-20 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Eric.

I do not like tabtabsee because of the fact, that I can not get the results 
shown in braille. Often it can be difficult to hear and understand what the app 
says, I wish that could be improved.

Best regards Annie.
Den Oct 20, 2013 kl. 6:03 PM skrev Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com:

 I haven't tested the app much. I'll say this though: if the app speaks a 
 result and it flashes on the display, you cna toggle a history of such 
 announcements with space-n. That might allow you to review the results, but 
 again I'm not sure.
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
  
 As far as I can tell Tap Tap See only speaks the results and you can repeat 
 it by tapping the Repeat button, but I don’t think it is displayed on the 
 screen where you could review it either with Voiceover or by using a braille 
 display. It never occurred to me why this might be important and it’s 
 probably something you should suggest to the developer.
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of erik burggraaf
 Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 8:56 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Taptapsee and braille
  
 Hi all,  I really wanted to demonstrate taptapsee to the ios club that I run 
 through our local helen keller centre.  Unfortunately,  I can't find the 
 results of a lookup using my braille display.  That renders the app pretty 
 useless for the deaf-blind.  Am I missing something?
  
 Thanks,
  
 Erik Burggraaf
 Ebony Consulting will close it's doors for good on december 20th.  Thanks to 
 everyone who contributed to the past four years of success for my little 
 consulting business.  It means a lot to me.
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Re: Dictate button to left of space bar

2013-10-20 Thread Teresa Cochran
As far as I know, the dictate button hasn't been discontinued. I have it in my 
IOS7. I use it, too, and like it. Quite an admission for someone who normal 
hates dictating, but it's growing on me. :)

Teresa

We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan

On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Chris Chaffin cchaf...@twcny.rr.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I just recently updated my iPhone 5 to iOS7 a couple of days ago from 6.1.4.
 I know it was reported that there was no longer a dictate button beside the 
 space bar in iOS 7, but that is what I am finding strange, and has made me 
 wonder.
 I still have a dictate button to the left of the space bar on the on screen 
 keyboard.
 I have checked in the app store, spotlight search, and many other apps that 
 have edit fields.
 And if I flick left from the space bar, there is the dictate button.
 
 Does anyone know why I still have the dictate button while running the latest 
 version of iOS 7?
 Things that make you go hmmm!
 
 Chris Chaffin
 
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Re: Taptapsee and braille

2013-10-20 Thread alia robinson
I get a written record of what it says. works great. 

Alia
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wrote:

 Hi Eric.
 
 I do not like tabtabsee because of the fact, that I can not get the results 
 shown in braille. Often it can be difficult to hear and understand what the 
 app says, I wish that could be improved.

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Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

2013-10-20 Thread Moop
Hi,
Unfortunately, during this whole process, I've had an internet connection, but 
still no go. Thanks for clarifying anyway.
Courtney

Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry about that. I read your message to say that you needed an
INTERNET 
connection when transferring a book over with iTunes. My understanding 
is that you don't need an internet connection during the transfer but 
you will when you go to play that book that you have transferred with 
iTunes. Since this is what I thought you said, I thought it needed a 
clarification to avoid confusion. Again, sorry for the
misunderstanding.

On 10/20/2013 11:20 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
 JThat what I said.

 -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:02 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

 You do need to be connected to the INTERNET when you first start
playing
 a book that you transferred to your iPhone using iTunes, DropBox and
so
 on. this is for your authorization to be checked. You don't need to
be
 connected to the INTERNET to listen to a book you download straight
to
 your iPhone through the BARD app or that you've already started
 listening to.

 On 10/20/2013 10:51 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
 You don't need to be connected to the internet when reading a book. 
The
 only time you need to be connected is when you download a book or
use
 itunes to transfer a book to your device.

 -Original Message- From: Moop
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief

 Hi Kimber,
 Yes, I'm connected to the internet, I emailed bard yesterday,
hopefully,
 I'll hear back this week..
 Courtney


 Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote: Courtney,

 Are you connected to the internet when you try to play the book? If
 not, try connecting to your wifi before attempting to play the book.

 Kimber

 On 10/19/13, Courtney Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Thanks for this tip, but the problem I'm having is when I go to play
any
 book, whether it's from the wishlist, or whether it's transferred
with
 itunes. As of last night, I downloaded a book from the recently
added
 books
 section, and I still had no luck. I'm going to restart my iPod touch
and
 try
 it again, and if I still don't have any luck, I'll email support.
 Courtney


 Sent from my iMac

 On Oct 19, 2013, at 5:33 AM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
 wrote:

 The bard mobile support address is
 bardmobilesupp...@loc.gov

 Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt
wcmerr...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:06 AM
 Subject: Re: bard mobile still giving me grief


 Even though the government is back up and running, it may take them
a
 while to get everything going smooth on the site and with the app. I
 submitted a problem report but have not received any acknowledgement
 of my message. Guess they have some catching up to do. If you are
 still getting the authorization trouble in a few days, email their
 main address:
 nlsb...@loc.gov
 I think the BARD Mobile support address is:
 nlsbardmob...@loc.gov
 but am not sure of that. I have never had any authorization issues
 when downloading books directly to my iPhone.

 Regards,
 Wayne

 On 10/18/13, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had no problem yesterday. I downloaded one via phone, and
transferred
 three via itunes.

 Alia
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Siri

2013-10-20 Thread Pinky
Hi,

When I was using IOS 6 on my IPad I could asked Siri what she can do for me
and she would give me a list of about 20 to 30 things she can do.  Now that
I updated my IPad to IOS 7.02 and asked Siri that same question there is no
answer.  I have asked the same question about ten times on different days
and no response.  If I asked her the time or something else Siri response
right away so I know Siri is working.  I just don't understand why on IOS 7
she does not responded to that question at all.  Anyone have any ideas why
this would be?

 

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RE: Handwriting

2013-10-20 Thread Pinky
Hi Gadget girl,

When I put in the period like you said then swiped down and then VO said
comma I double tap to enter the comma.  Then when I go back and check it I
have a period and a comma.  What am I doing wrong. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting

 

Start by making a period by placing one finger on the screen to make a dot.
Then do a two finger swipe up or down to toggle to the punctuation mark you
want.  This toggle method works in other modes as well.  For example, if you
write the letter U and the letter V appears, you could use the two finger
swipe down or up to toggle to the letter of choice.

Regards,

Gadget Girl Anita 

Sent from my Apple gadget.  Apple, Take a bite, Express yourself!


On Oct 20, 2013, at 4:11 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:

Well, now, I really like this handwriting feature in iOS 7.0.x, but can
anybody suggest a good way to enter in a quotation mark or an apostrophe ?
These seem to typically get interpreted as commas.


Holland's Boy, Bill
- Ideas are the beginning points of all fortunes.
- Napoleon Hill, American author in the area of the new thought movement,
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still no restored iPad and an unrelated question about facetime

2013-10-20 Thread Regina Alvarado
Still no correction to my iPad! Grrr! However, have another question about 
iPhone and iPad.

Have a friend who has an iPad. She can call me on facetime with my email or 
cell number. I can only call her on her email and only if I go into recents and 
touch her email address that shows up when she calls. Can we talk via Facetime 
with her phone number, no iPhone, and how do I make her email reliable in her 
contacts? Wow, I am frying my brain today with i device problems! Is Apple 
support open on Sunday? Do the servers stay awake to send down software or do I 
need to wait until tomorrow?



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Re: Handwriting

2013-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
Just keep going. Wehn you find or write the character you want, it is entered 
already. Double tapping will not do anything. So, if you draw a circle and VO 
says o, the o is already typed into the text field and you can move to the 
next character. I hope that makes sense.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Pinky pink...@abe.midco.net wrote:

 Hi Gadget girl,
 When I put in the period like you said then swiped down and then VO said 
 comma I double tap to enter the comma.  Then when I go back and check it I 
 have a period and a comma.  What am I doing wrong.
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Gadget Girl
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 8:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Handwriting
  
 Start by making a period by placing one finger on the screen to make a dot.  
 Then do a two finger swipe up or down to toggle to the punctuation mark you 
 want.  This toggle method works in other modes as well.  For example, if you 
 write the letter U and the letter V appears, you could use the two finger 
 swipe down or up to toggle to the letter of choice.
 
 Regards,
 Gadget Girl Anita 
 Sent from my Apple gadget.  Apple, Take a bite, Express yourself!
 
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 4:11 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Well, now, I really like this handwriting feature in iOS 7.0.x, but can 
 anybody suggest a good way to enter in a quotation mark or an apostrophe ?  
 These seem to typically get interpreted as commas.
 
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Problems getting the password to work for the channel that was made for this list.

2013-10-20 Thread Joseph Hudson


Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@yahoo.com Sent from my iPhone hello guys, I found the channel that was 
made for this list but now I'm having a problem getting the password to work. 
I'll call does anybody know whether any of the letters were capitalized or not?

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Re: Dictate button to left of space bar

2013-10-20 Thread Kimberly
I believe the dictate button only shows up when Siri is turned on. 

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

 On Oct 20, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Chris Chaffin cchaf...@twcny.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I just recently updated my iPhone 5 to iOS7 a couple of days ago from 6.1.4.
 I know it was reported that there was no longer a dictate button beside the 
 space bar in iOS 7, but that is what I am finding strange, and has made me 
 wonder.
 I still have a dictate button to the left of the space bar on the on screen 
 keyboard.
 I have checked in the app store, spotlight search, and many other apps that 
 have edit fields.
 And if I flick left from the space bar, there is the dictate button.
 
 Does anyone know why I still have the dictate button while running the latest 
 version of iOS 7?
 Things that make you go hmmm!
 
 Chris Chaffin
 
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Re: Problems getting the password to work for the channel that was made for this list.

2013-10-20 Thread Anne Günther

Hi
Password: iphoneisgood
All small letters.

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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-20 Thread Anne Günther

Hi
It would be great if you include in your article if your suggestions are 
available for everyone of just for folks that live in certain countries. 
Since it can be somewhat frustrating to read some great app, deal or 
product just to realize that it's only available in the us, Canada etc.

Guenni

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Looking for an accessible DVR

2013-10-20 Thread Eric Brinkman
Hi listers,

While watching the final season of Breaking Bad as it was broadcast, I
found myself wishing I had a DVR.  I have grown to love the Apple TV,
as it has opened up the worlds of Netflix and HBO go to me, and can't
believe there isn't an accessible DVR solution.  I am fairly happy
with my Verizon Fios service, although more for the internet speeds
than the TV.  Is there any way I could use their DVR either via the
computer or IOS device?  I have limited vision, and one of the things
I like about the iPad is the ability to hold it very close to my face
to watch TV.  This enables me to use my vision much more than watching
the set from a distance.  If the Verizon DVR is unusable to a blind
person, might there be a solution from another provider?  Could I buy
a DVR from another company and integrate it with my Fios service?
Please let me know if there is another list that would be better
suited for this discussion.  The BlindTech list appears to be gone.

Thanks in advance.

Eric

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RE: Skype, facetime and phone volume

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Absolutely. Sorry about the one-worder *smile* but there is no other way to
say it without repeating everything so at least I made it a one-liner!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:05 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Skype, facetime and phone volume

Hi,

So your saying, if for example, on your 4S, if you are listening to music
and lower the volume, Voiceover volume isn't lowered at the same time?  So
then, you would eventually reach a state where your music volume was lowered
all the way but, Voiceover volume is still the same?  I honestly can't
remember this behavior.  At least, not in IOS 6 or IOS 5.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 20, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Ricardo,
 
 Normally it is not standard behavior that Voiceover volume is 
 connected to the volume of music or an audio book that is playing. On 
 my 4S I don't think I had this issue so I think it's less of an iOS 7
issue than a 5S issue.
 Anyways, consider this:
 
 I am playing an Audible book and I have my phone locked and before I 
 locked it Voiceover was set to a comfortable volume.
 Now when the phone is locked I turn down the book way low.
 Now I press the home key to unlock the phone and suddenly Voiceover is 
 so quiet that I can barely hear it.
 
 Also consider this:
 
 I raise volume on the volume rotor all the way to 35% which, as Ron 
 pointed out, is as high as it will go.
 Now I do a 2-finger swipe up on the home screen to get Voiceover to 
 start reading continuously and I now use the volume down button to 
 lower Voiceover volume so I can just hear it.
 Now I check the volume rotor by flicking up and it is still at 35%.
 In the same way I can turn volume on the rotor down to 1% which is as 
 low as it will go, then I get Voiceover to start speaking and I can 
 use the volume up key to make it so loud that it distorts, but the 
 rotor volume is still at 1%.
 
 There is something very wrong, it's not a total dealbreaker and you 
 just have to use the volume keys a lot to set your Voiceover volume 
 where you want it since  you aren't able to set it independently or 
 use the volume on the rotor to do so. The only place where it's 
 annoying is during a phone call, but that part was never right on my 
 4S after iOS 5 so it's nothing new except that I hoped on the 5S it 
 was once again possible to balance the volume of a call on 
 speakerphone and Voiceover volume independently using the volume keys 
 to turn call volume down and volume on the rotor to turn Voiceover 
 volume up. I don't know if you have a 5S, but it definitely seems that 
 this is the same for all 5S users and not one of these things which 
 affects only a small percentage of users. Anyhow, I am fairly 
 confident Apple will fix this, they may say they have no estimated 
 time when this will be fixed, but I'm sure they prefer to say that even if
they might have it fixed in the next update which I suspect will be out in a
few weeks.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:09 AM
 To: viphone
 Subject: Re: Skype, facetime and phone volume
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm not sure I understand.  If you turn down the volume while 
 listening to an audible book, does the actual Voiceover volume in the 
 rotor gets turned down?  Or does all system volume turn down.  If the 
 second, this is standard behavior.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Joanne,
 
 Theoretically you should just be able to use the volume buttons to
 increase
 or decrease the volume while a call is going on. Having said this, 
 there definitely seem to be a few issues with Voiceover volume and 
 other volume levels in iOS 7. If, for example, I turn down the volume 
 when I am playing an Audible book, Voiceover volume goes down as well 
 even if Voiceover is
 not
 even speaking. This should not be happening and I just send a message 
 to Apple Accessibility about that. Hopefully others do as well and 
 this is fixed soon. But you should still be able to lower the volume 
 of a Facetime Audio call or increase the volume of a Skype call while 
 the call is in progress.
 I actually just checked this by placing a call to the Sound Test 
 service
 and
 I was able to increase and decrease the volume while the announcement 
 was speaking with my phone held to my ear and using the volume buttons.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Joanne Chua
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Skype, facetime 

RE: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ryan,

I agree with Tom, I bought numbers as well and did end up looking at an
Excel spreadsheet once which I imported to Numbers. I was able to navigate
around, but it was not the greatest experience. I am a firm believer that
while computer sales are slowing down, there will be a need for laptops and
even desktops for a long time to come.

I finally received an email last week that my Office 365 subscription is
finally due for its upgrade on October 26. After that I will be able to
subscribe to one of the new plans like Small Business Premium or whatever
it's called which includes a licence to install Office 2013 on up to 5
computers and it also will give me access to the Office Mobile app Microsoft
released earlier this year.
I have not seen this discussed on here at all and I don't know if it's
accessible, partially accessible or not at all, but I will know shortly and
I'll definitely post a review at some point at the end of October or
beginning of November.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver

I believe this topic has been discussed before, but sometimes apps change.
Is there any app that is accessible with VoiceOver that would allow me to
edit an Excel spreadsheet on my iPhone or an iPad?
Thanks.
Follow me on twitter @progressivecat.


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Handwriting

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ed,

 

As Paul says, just continue typing, in the case of a comma you would
typically continue with a 2-finger swipe right to insert a space, then
continue with your next word.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pinky
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Handwriting

 

Hi Gadget girl,

When I put in the period like you said then swiped down and then VO said
comma I double tap to enter the comma.  Then when I go back and check it I
have a period and a comma.  What am I doing wrong. 

 

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Of Gadget Girl
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Handwriting

 

Start by making a period by placing one finger on the screen to make a dot.
Then do a two finger swipe up or down to toggle to the punctuation mark you
want.  This toggle method works in other modes as well.  For example, if you
write the letter U and the letter V appears, you could use the two finger
swipe down or up to toggle to the letter of choice.

Regards,

Gadget Girl Anita 

Sent from my Apple gadget.  Apple, Take a bite, Express yourself!


On Oct 20, 2013, at 4:11 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:

Well, now, I really like this handwriting feature in iOS 7.0.x, but can
anybody suggest a good way to enter in a quotation mark or an apostrophe ?
These seem to typically get interpreted as commas.


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RE: Dictate button to left of space bar

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I believe the person who reported it missing might have had SIRI turned off
and as Kimber correctly said, SIRI has to be one for Dictation to work.
However, while the Dictate button is there, I find myself usually using the
shortcut which is a 2-finger double tap in the edit field. Often one has to
double tap with one finger to put the cursor into the edit field and at that
point it's an easy thing to do another double tap this time with 2 fingers
in order to start Dictation.much m

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Subject: Re: Dictate button to left of space bar

I believe the dictate button only shows up when Siri is turned on. 

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

 On Oct 20, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Chris Chaffin cchaf...@twcny.rr.com
wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I just recently updated my iPhone 5 to iOS7 a couple of days ago from
6.1.4.
 I know it was reported that there was no longer a dictate button beside
the space bar in iOS 7, but that is what I am finding strange, and has made
me wonder.
 I still have a dictate button to the left of the space bar on the on
screen keyboard.
 I have checked in the app store, spotlight search, and many other apps
that have edit fields.
 And if I flick left from the space bar, there is the dictate button.
 
 Does anyone know why I still have the dictate button while running the
latest version of iOS 7?
 Things that make you go hmmm!
 
 Chris Chaffin
 
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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-20 Thread Lelia Struve
I looked for podcasts on applevis about GPS apps and the only ones I 
found were the blind square one and seeing eye. I also found one on 
ARiadne and Mike's podcast about those five GPS apps were great.  I 
couldn't find any on Navigon though. Any tips as to where I can find 
one? Thanks


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RE: E-mail

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Robert,

If your reply was underneath you must have accidently moved focus back to
the bottom of the message which is easy to do in iOS 7 since the cursor is
moved to wherever you touch the screen. Takes a bit of getting used to, but
for me if I double tap with one finger in the email body and it says
Insertion opoint at start it definitely is.

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Hello All,
The other day, I noticed, that when I reply to a e-mail on my phone, even
though I double tap to make sure that it says insertion point at start, it
is putting my message under the origonal message.
I am wondering, if anyone knows, how I can change it back, so that my
message is on top.
Thanks,

Robert Stigile
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Re: Looking for an accessible DVR

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
A TiVo box with the TiVo app is very accessible. My cable provider uses 
TiVo for their DVR, but TiVo will also work with other TV providers. 
check with tivo.com to get some more information.


On 10/20/2013 01:37 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote:

Hi listers,

While watching the final season of Breaking Bad as it was broadcast, I
found myself wishing I had a DVR.  I have grown to love the Apple TV,
as it has opened up the worlds of Netflix and HBO go to me, and can't
believe there isn't an accessible DVR solution.  I am fairly happy
with my Verizon Fios service, although more for the internet speeds
than the TV.  Is there any way I could use their DVR either via the
computer or IOS device?  I have limited vision, and one of the things
I like about the iPad is the ability to hold it very close to my face
to watch TV.  This enables me to use my vision much more than watching
the set from a distance.  If the Verizon DVR is unusable to a blind
person, might there be a solution from another provider?  Could I buy
a DVR from another company and integrate it with my Fios service?
Please let me know if there is another list that would be better
suited for this discussion.  The BlindTech list appears to be gone.

Thanks in advance.

Eric



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Re: GPS apps.

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I agree if I know this already, but if I see something in the App Store, 
or see a news feed about an app worth trying, how will I know what 
countries it's available in?


On 10/20/2013 01:36 PM, Anne Günther wrote:

Hi
It would be great if you include in your article if your suggestions are
available for everyone of just for folks that live in certain countries.
Since it can be somewhat frustrating to read some great app, deal or
product just to realize that it's only available in the us, Canada etc.
Guenni



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RE: GPS apps.

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Lelia,

Raul did a Podcast about how to efficiently enter addresses into Navigon for
planning a route. It may not cover everything, but it's a big part of using
Navigon and the Podcast is on Applevis, see link below:

http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/entering-addresses-using-navigon-vo
iceover


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: GPS apps.

I looked for podcasts on applevis about GPS apps and the only ones I 
found were the blind square one and seeing eye. I also found one on 
ARiadne and Mike's podcast about those five GPS apps were great.  I 
couldn't find any on Navigon though. Any tips as to where I can find 
one? Thanks

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Re: Handwriting

2013-10-20 Thread Lelia Struve

So what is this handwriting thing? is there some way I could read about it?

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RE: still having passcode problems

2013-10-20 Thread Grant Hardy
You are using Windows, right? I suppose you could try downloading iOS 7.0.2
via direct link. Here is a Blog that collects these direct links from Apple:
http://www.redmondpie.com/ios-7.0.2-download-for-iphone-5s-5-4s-4-ipad-ipod-
touch-released/
Find the direct link for your model of iPad (if you look at the URL, you'll
see that the links all come from Apple.com). Download the software and
ensure that it has an .ipsw extension. Sometimes, Windows supplies another
erroneous extension like .zip instead so be sure to rename if that's the
case. Put the file in c:\users\username\AppData\roaming\Apple
Computer\iTunes\iPad Software Updates. Now repeat the procedure of putting
your iPad in recovery mode and try to restore the software again.

Failing this, I'd suggest booking a Genius Bar appointment.

Grant

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Sent: October 20, 2013 7:49 AM
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Subject: still having passcode problems

Oh Grant and anyone else with suggestions, thank you from me and my iPad!
Have it in recovery mode now again and so far so good. Tried twice last
night, but it gets to a certain point in the download and stops making a
ding on computer like it spit out the usb. So far no ding. 41 minutes. OOPS,
did it just now. Says I need my passcode? Ug! Ug! Find my iPhone says
administrator's iPad not on find my iPad. Will try again, but any other
ideas? Could just cry! All I wanted was it to look like my phone! Wonder why
it took the wrong passcode. 



reggie and Allegra

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RE: Links and text messages

2013-10-20 Thread Godwin Adoyi Agada
Hi,
Setting the rotor to links always works for me.
Godwin Adoyi 

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Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 9:08 PM
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You should be able to just double tap on the link to open it. This works for
me. Not sure if something has to be setup in settings though. 

Donna

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 Is there a way to click a link in a text message?
 Thank you so much,
 Jen
 
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Re: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver

2013-10-20 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hey Tom, 

How are you doing? This is what I have found out with many inquiries about 
this. Office 2010  2013 is not accessible with VO. The solution that has been 
suggested several times is for me to install VM on the back side of my Air. 
since I still have my Dell functioning, I am accessing Office from there to 
complete various tasks for work. The app that I have used on a 30 day free 
trial to access Excel and is accessible with VO is called Tables. I am in the 
process of ordering a single license for the Air. The interface is different 
then Excel and it just takes a little bit to get use to. The price for a user 
license is $43.54. I'll have to get the website for you, but I just Googled 
Tables software for Mac. HTH. 

Eileen   
On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 The Numbers app is supposed to let you view, create and edit spreadsheets. I 
 played with it a long time ago and found that it was way more hassle than it 
 was worth, but it may have improved considerably since then.
 
 Tom
 
 - Original Message - From: Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:20 AM
 Subject: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver
 
 
 I believe this topic has been discussed before, but sometimes apps change. 
 Is there any app that is accessible with VoiceOver that would allow me to 
 edit an Excel spreadsheet on my iPhone or an iPad?
 Thanks.
 Follow me on twitter @progressivecat.
 
 
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RE: Using Siri to call phone numbers with extensions.

2013-10-20 Thread Don and Cher Bosch
I've actually found that for me only 1 comma has been necessary- even with
switchboards with recorded messages.
Cher



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Lange
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Siri to call phone numbers with extensions.

Hi,
Your best bet is to add the number to your contacts, and when you do, put
two commas after the number, then the extension that you want to reach. 
That should do the trick.

Tom
- Original Message -
From: Liz and Sammie elizabethulr...@sbcglobal.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:44 PM
Subject: Using Siri to call phone numbers with extensions.


I am wondering if Siri can dial a phone number such as a number to a 
company
 plus an extension to a particular person that I need to talk to in the
 company?  I find that when using my Iphone if I need to dial an extension
 that sometimes I'm not fast enough, and it does not work.  If Siri can't 
 do
 this, what is the correct way to dial an extension with the Iphone?

 Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie

 Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator

 HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1


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Re: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver

2013-10-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I believe he is looking for an app for IOS not the Mac.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 20, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Tom, 
 
 How are you doing? This is what I have found out with many inquiries about 
 this. Office 2010  2013 is not accessible with VO. The solution that has 
 been suggested several times is for me to install VM on the back side of my 
 Air. since I still have my Dell functioning, I am accessing Office from there 
 to complete various tasks for work. The app that I have used on a 30 day free 
 trial to access Excel and is accessible with VO is called Tables. I am in the 
 process of ordering a single license for the Air. The interface is different 
 then Excel and it just takes a little bit to get use to. The price for a user 
 license is $43.54. I'll have to get the website for you, but I just Googled 
 Tables software for Mac. HTH. 
 
 Eileen   
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 The Numbers app is supposed to let you view, create and edit spreadsheets. I 
 played with it a long time ago and found that it was way more hassle than it 
 was worth, but it may have improved considerably since then.
 
 Tom
 
 - Original Message - From: Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:20 AM
 Subject: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver
 
 
 I believe this topic has been discussed before, but sometimes apps change. 
 Is there any app that is accessible with VoiceOver that would allow me to 
 edit an Excel spreadsheet on my iPhone or an iPad?
 Thanks.
 Follow me on twitter @progressivecat.
 
 
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Re: Sharing Reminders lists in ios7

2013-10-20 Thread Traci Duncan
Hello, sharing on the Mac is how I've been doing it in the past.

It worked flawlessly in ios6, but not so far in ios7.

Traci
On Oct 19, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:

 If by any chance you have a mac you could do it through the reminder app on 
 the mac. Otherwise I wonder if it is possible from the icloud sight on the 
 web? 
 
 Best,
 
 Ioana
 
 
 
 
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 Hi all,
 
 I'm having a heck of a time sharing reminder lists since upgrading to ios7.  
 I tried to re-add the person I share the list with, I also tried to delete 
 the list and create a new one then share it.  None of these things worked.
 
 I googled this problem and it seems others are having the same issue, but I 
 couldn't find a solution.
 
 Any ideas out there?
 
 Thank you,
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Am I The Only One Having Trouble with the Latest Native Facebook App Update: Repeat Inquiry

2013-10-20 Thread Christine Grassman
I posted about this Thursday, but unless I missed the posts, there has been no 
response:
There was a Facebook update on October 17. Since that time, whenever I try to 
use the app on my iPhone 5, it dumps me out after a few seconds. The app 
switcher says it is still running; I go back in, and the same thing occurs.
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling. I have tried powering my phone off 
and on. I have tried syncing with iTunes. I have left a message with Facebook 
through Report a Problem. I would like to know if anyone else has experienced 
this, and if so, has anyone found a solution until it is fixed . . . if it is 
fixed?
Facely HD is no longer user-friendly, and Echofon for Facebook is cumbersome 
and not handy for what I need to do on Facebook. Any other options if the 
Facebook app is not going to work? TIA.
Christine

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Re: Siri

2013-10-20 Thread Chris H

Speaking of asking Siri what it can do is that what the help button does?

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 20/10/2013 18:23, Pinky wrote:

Hi,

When I was using IOS 6 on my IPad I could asked Siri what she can do for me
and she would give me a list of about 20 to 30 things she can do.  Now that
I updated my IPad to IOS 7.02 and asked Siri that same question there is no
answer.  I have asked the same question about ten times on different days
and no response.  If I asked her the time or something else Siri response
right away so I know Siri is working.  I just don't understand why on IOS 7
she does not responded to that question at all.  Anyone have any ideas why
this would be?



Ed.



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Contacting Accessibility Support

2013-10-20 Thread clarence carter
I have an I Phone 4, and I am having trouble with Voice Over on some 
applications.  Is there a way to contact the Accessibility support by 
E-Mail?


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Re: Contacting Accessibility Support

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Sure, just send an email message to accessibil...@apple.com.

BTW, Googling for Apple accessibility will show you 
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ where you'll find the email address 
for Apple's Accessibility Team.


On 10/20/2013 03:13 PM, clarence carter wrote:

I have an I Phone 4, and I am having trouble with Voice Over on some
applications.  Is there a way to contact the Accessibility support by
E-Mail?



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Re: Handwriting

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Sure, not only has it been discussed a lot on list, so you could find a 
lot in the list archives, you can also use Google to find blog articles 
and podcasts on it. One I found quickly is at 
http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/handwriting-in-ios-7-2/


After you add hand writing to your roter, when entering text, you can 
change your roter to hand writing and then draw characters on the screen 
to enter them. I find it particularly useful when entering my pass code. 
It's quick and you don't have your numbers echoed as you look for them 
on the numeric keypad.


On 10/20/2013 02:09 PM, Lelia Struve wrote:

So what is this handwriting thing? is there some way I could read about it?



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Handwriting In iOS 7 »

2013-10-20 Thread Gadget Girl
Hello Leila.  Here is a good article on the handwriting function.  It's quite a 
ways down the page, so be sure to scroll down the page.  Also, the article did 
not mention that a three finger swipe from left to right inserts a new line.



http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/handwriting-in-ios-7-2/


Regards,
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Handwriting

2013-10-20 Thread Gadget Girl
Hello Leila.  Here is a short podcast I found on handwriting.  


http://htb2.com/2013/09/to-the-point-1-why-you-should-use-handwriting-in-ios-7/


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Netflix accessibility

2013-10-20 Thread Conrad Bennett
Hi does anybody know how to make the latest version of the Netflix app 
accessible I tried everything including turning voiceover on and off to scroll 
it is still not working please let me know thanks

Sent from Conrad's iPhone

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Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone

2013-10-20 Thread Alan Paganelli
If you've got a purse that could hold a keyboard that's about 10 by 5 by a 
half inch thick then you'd have it made.  Note: the keyboard is not 
flexible.

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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Lelia leliastr...@samobile.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone


Can somebody tell me how big it is, I know that you say it is as big as an 
Apple keyboard or whatever but I have not seen that. Is it is big as a 
regular computer keyboard? Or can I put it in a big purse? That's what I'm 
trying to figure out. Thank you

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2013, at 12:33 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I have big fingers and the Amazon keyboard. It is easy to type on and
I would highly recommend. I haven't tried any of the other keyboards
though to compare.


On 10/19/13, Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com wrote:
I also have the amazon basics, I like it. I use it when I'm lazy and 
don't

feel like using the touch screen, lol.
I also have another keybord that is like a quarty, I bought it from a t
guys. I don't use this one as much but it makes a good travel keybord.
 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Paganelli
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:47 AM
 Subject: Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone


 The keys on the Amazon Basics Bluetooth Keyboard are about what you 
would

find on a good netbook.  If you are a touch typist, you'll love this
keyboard.  The keys aren't the wishie-washy kind of keys you find on 
some
portable keyboards.  These feel proper and the 5 rubber feet on the 
bottom
keeps the keyboard in place on a flat surface so if you do type fast, 
you

won't have to worry about chasing it all over the table top.

 When I'm traveling in our motor home, I can sling this keyboard across 
my

lap and type away.  Once I've typed my reply or started my message all I
have to do is to send it and move on to the next message.
 ---

 Regards,

 Alan

 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act 
now!

Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
played

on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly 
on

my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

   - Original Message -
   From: Terrie Terlau
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:25 PM
   Subject: RE: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone


   Larry,

   Thanks for your recommendation.

   Can you tell me if the keys are small and close together, making it a
lot smaller than a keyboard without the numpad and six pack, or if the 
keys

are about average sized and the keyboard is not tiny?

   I am not saying this very well -- I want it to be easy to use, so not
really small,.

   Thanks!

   Terrie


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Re: Advices about headphones.

2013-10-20 Thread Pablo Morales

Hi Eric.
Yes, I bought that plantronic something. I guess is plantronic legend. But I
have a question about this kind of Bluetooth headphone. Some times, when I
press the answer call button, for, maybe 3 or 4 seconds, the bip of siri
appear. Then I say what ever I want. But some times when I press the answer
call button, sari doesn't appear. Why sari some times appear when I press
the answer call button and some times no?

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: Advices about headphones.



Pablo, I continue to recommend the Plantronics Backbeat 903 Plus as the
best
for sound and comfort in the mid to low cost range Bluetooth headphones.
They are stereo. The one downfall, which is common to almost all Bluetooth
devices regardless of cost, is the microphone. The truest test of this is
how well it works with Seri. But, for phone calls and listening to
Voiceover
or other audio, these are my favorite over the past few years, and trust
me
that I have had plenty over that time. Here is the Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/Plantronics-BackBeat-903-Headset-Frustration/dp/B00AFG
P5MM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1382287052sr=8-2keywords=PLANTRONICS+903

Eric


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Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Advices about headphones.

Hi all.
I am starting to think that the problem with my Bluetooth connection, is
my
Bluetooth headphone. So I would like to ask all of you, a kind of
headphone
with the following features.
1. It should not be embedded in the ear.
2. The device must go around the ear.
Any advice?
thanks
Pablo


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User Interface Sounds Gone in Lire 1.9.35

2013-10-20 Thread Craig Werner
Hello, everyone.

Suddenly, user interface sounds, such as the chime that indicates a
refresh has completed, are not present in Lire 1.9.35.  A check of
Settings shows these sounds are enabled.  In addition, when I open a
feed or an area such as Settings, the beep signal that indicates the
area is open is now sounding twice. No other iPhone function is acting
strangely.  Any ideas as to what is going on?  I am using an iPhone 5
with iOS 7.02.

Thank you very much for all help.

Craig

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Re: Problems getting the password to work for the channel that was made for this list.

2013-10-20 Thread Nimit
Forgive my ignorance, please?  What channel r u people talking about? 
Thanks!Sent from my iPhone 

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Re: Problems getting the password to work for the channel that was made for this list.

2013-10-20 Thread Joseph Hudson
Thank you hand, I finally got it to work appreciate everybody's wonderful help 
on this.

Joseph Hudson
Email
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RE: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver

2013-10-20 Thread Alan Lemly
I'm good to go and hopefully you've received my four missives by now which
got hung up in my outbox unbeknownst to me. I'm listening to Katherine
Ashenburg and mainly Michelle hogging the microphone yet again. Don't ever
let her corner you to ask about the writing process since that seems to be
her obsession based on her questions.

Sorry again that my replies were delayed. I wrote them over two and a half
hours ago but they only went out about an hour ago. Surely didn't mean to
worry you.

Peace.

Alan

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Subject: Re: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver

Hey Tom, 

How are you doing? This is what I have found out with many inquiries about
this. Office 2010  2013 is not accessible with VO. The solution that has
been suggested several times is for me to install VM on the back side of my
Air. since I still have my Dell functioning, I am accessing Office from
there to complete various tasks for work. The app that I have used on a 30
day free trial to access Excel and is accessible with VO is called Tables. I
am in the process of ordering a single license for the Air. The interface is
different then Excel and it just takes a little bit to get use to. The price
for a user license is $43.54. I'll have to get the website for you, but I
just Googled Tables software for Mac. HTH. 

Eileen   
On Oct 20, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 The Numbers app is supposed to let you view, create and edit spreadsheets.
I played with it a long time ago and found that it was way more hassle than
it was worth, but it may have improved considerably since then.
 
 Tom
 
 - Original Message - From: Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:20 AM
 Subject: editing Excel spreadsheets with VoiceOver
 
 
 I believe this topic has been discussed before, but sometimes apps
change. Is there any app that is accessible with VoiceOver that would allow
me to edit an Excel spreadsheet on my iPhone or an iPad?
 Thanks.
 Follow me on twitter @progressivecat.
 
 
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Re: Problems getting the password to work for the channel that was made for this list.

2013-10-20 Thread Joseph Hudson
I was talking what the Zello channel that is named after this list.

Joseph Hudson
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 Forgive my ignorance, please?  What channel r u people talking about? 
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Re: Netflix accessibility

2013-10-20 Thread eric oyen
it isn't and the company has no plans to make it so.

-eric

On Oct 20, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Conrad Bennett wrote:

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 accessible I tried everything including turning voiceover on and off to 
 scroll it is still not working please let me know thanks
 
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Motorola Buds

2013-10-20 Thread Jennie Facer
Has anyone used this pair of stereo bluetooth headphones? I'm having problems 
where it plays music just fine, but voiceover is really choppy. Does anyone 
have any ideas?

Thank you so much!

Jenn

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trying to subscribe to macvisionaries

2013-10-20 Thread Rob

Hi,
I am getting a macbook and need to learn alot. I need help subscribing 
to macvisionaries.

I cant subscribe via email or the google groups page.
how can I contact the owner?
reply to
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Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
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Re: Netflix accessibility

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Have you been using the Netflix app, and you're saying the latest 
version is less accessible than previous versions?


For my part, it seems to work the same as it always has. You can only 
double tap things that are actually visible on the screen, and exploring 
with voiceOver with flicks left and right doesn't update the screen. I 
use a double tap and hold and then slide my finger to actually pan the 
screen up or down or left and right. I'll then explore the screen, and 
if I find what I want to double tap on then I double tap. If not, then I 
pan around some more. It's a bit tedious, but it works if you're willing 
to put up with it.


There's supposed to be a good podcast on AppleVix.com, but I still have 
to look for it and listen to it myself.


On 10/20/2013 03:58 PM, Conrad Bennett wrote:

Hi does anybody know how to make the latest version of the Netflix app 
accessible I tried everything including turning voiceover on and off to scroll 
it is still not working please let me know thanks

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Re: User Interface Sounds Gone in Lire 1.9.35

2013-10-20 Thread Craig Werner
How embarrassing.  The mute switch was on.  With the phone unmuted,
I got my Lire sounds back.  I'm now going to wipe the egg off my face.

Craig

On 10/20/13, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, everyone.

 Suddenly, user interface sounds, such as the chime that indicates a
 refresh has completed, are not present in Lire 1.9.35.  A check of
 Settings shows these sounds are enabled.  In addition, when I open a
 feed or an area such as Settings, the beep signal that indicates the
 area is open is now sounding twice. No other iPhone function is acting
 strangely.  Any ideas as to what is going on?  I am using an iPhone 5
 with iOS 7.02.

 Thank you very much for all help.

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2013-10-20 Thread Kay Malmquist

Kay Malmquist
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pages changing

2013-10-20 Thread Steve Sweeney
Hi,

Don't know if I can describe this well but, Anyone else having an issue
where when you flick up to go to the next screen in email or other apps then
you touch the screen to read something the page or screen moves up to
another screen beyond the one you want to read?

I have noticed this in several apps.

Thx -Steve

 

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Re: Netflix accessibility

2013-10-20 Thread MamaPeach

It also works for me like it always has.

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix accessibility

Have you been using the Netflix app, and you're saying the latest
version is less accessible than previous versions?

For my part, it seems to work the same as it always has. You can only
double tap things that are actually visible on the screen, and exploring
with voiceOver with flicks left and right doesn't update the screen. I
use a double tap and hold and then slide my finger to actually pan the
screen up or down or left and right. I'll then explore the screen, and
if I find what I want to double tap on then I double tap. If not, then I
pan around some more. It's a bit tedious, but it works if you're willing
to put up with it.

There's supposed to be a good podcast on AppleVix.com, but I still have
to look for it and listen to it myself.

On 10/20/2013 03:58 PM, Conrad Bennett wrote:
Hi does anybody know how to make the latest version of the Netflix app 
accessible I tried everything including turning voiceover on and off to 
scroll it is still not working please let me know thanks


Sent from Conrad's iPhone



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Re: trying to subscribe to macvisionaries

2013-10-20 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi, 

I tried to subscribed to Macvisionary a few weeks ago only to have the 
GoogleGroups state that I was authorized to join this group. Obviously, I am 
able to join others, as I am able to reply to your email. I too would like to 
contact the owner to subscribe to this group, as I am also new to the MacWorld 
since Labor Day weekend. Any assistance to accomplish this would be gratefully 
appreciated. 

Thanks in advance. 

Best, 
Eileen 
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iOS 7.02: VoiceOver Melody Played Twice when Opening Areas in Certain Apps

2013-10-20 Thread Craig Werner
Hello, everyone.

I just became cognizant of this behavior, but it must have been in iOS
7.02 ever since I downloaded it.  Whenever I open certain areas in
certain apps, the VoiceOver melody, which used to sound once, now
sounds twice.  This is evident in areas of iBooks, for instance.  Has
anyone else noticed this prolonged notification?  What does it
signify?

Thanks very much for all help.

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Re: trying to subscribe to macvisionaries

2013-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
Just email:
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The list is approve-only, so a moderator will have to okay you to join. You 
will be notified when that happens. If you have any trouble, let me know and I 
can ask on the list.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I tried to subscribed to Macvisionary a few weeks ago only to have the 
 GoogleGroups state that I was authorized to join this group. Obviously, I am 
 able to join others, as I am able to reply to your email. I too would like to 
 contact the owner to subscribe to this group, as I am also new to the 
 MacWorld since Labor Day weekend. Any assistance to accomplish this would be 
 gratefully appreciated. 
 
 Thanks in advance. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen 
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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 I am getting a macbook and need to learn alot. I need help subscribing to 
 macvisionaries.
 I cant subscribe via email or the google groups page.
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Anyone using the iPad app for The Great Courses, formerly known as The Teaching Company?

2013-10-20 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Hi,

Has anyone tried using the iPad app for The Great Courses company?

With sighted help, I'm told the course listings are graphic images, and there 
is a PLAY button that doesn't respond to a double-tap, requiring VO to be 
turned off and then on again.

Before I write the developer, I'm checking here to see if anyone is using this 
app successfully, and if so to seek their guidance. If not, I'll be writing the 
developer.

Thanks. Keith

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Re: trying to subscribe to macvisionaries

2013-10-20 Thread Rob

here is the message I got when using the email link to subscribe.
I got the same message Saturday.
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Hello
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The group you attempted to subscribe to is invite only.  You must be 
invited by the group owner.


If you have questions related to this or any other Google Group, visit 
the Help Center at

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Thanks,

Google Groups

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Hi,

I tried to subscribed to Macvisionary a few weeks ago only to have the 
GoogleGroups state that I was authorized to join this group. Obviously, I am 
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contact the owner to subscribe to this group, as I am also new to the MacWorld 
since Labor Day weekend. Any assistance to accomplish this would be gratefully 
appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Best,
Eileen
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Hi,
I am getting a macbook and need to learn alot. I need help subscribing to 
macvisionaries.
I cant subscribe via email or the google groups page.
how can I contact the owner?
reply to
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Re: iOS 7.02: VoiceOver Melody Played Twice when Opening Areas in Certain Apps

2013-10-20 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure what sound you're talking about, but could you be talking 
about the sound you get when you move between containers? This was added 
in IOS 7 for iPhones.


On 10/20/2013 06:15 PM, Craig Werner wrote:

Hello, everyone.

I just became cognizant of this behavior, but it must have been in iOS
7.02 ever since I downloaded it.  Whenever I open certain areas in
certain apps, the VoiceOver melody, which used to sound once, now
sounds twice.  This is evident in areas of iBooks, for instance.  Has
anyone else noticed this prolonged notification?  What does it
signify?

Thanks very much for all help.

Craig



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Re: trying to subscribe to macvisionaries

2013-10-20 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi Rob, 

I just attempted to subscribe to Macvisionaries and just received the same 
message. Hence, I hope the owner is monitoring this list or someone who is a 
member of Macvisionaries can inform the owner that this is occurring and that 
new members are interested in joining and learning as much as they can from the 
experts. 

Eileen 
On Oct 20, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com wrote:

 here is the message I got when using the email link to subscribe.
 I got the same message Saturday.
 --
 Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
 Hello
 musicmaker...@gmail.com,
 
 The group you attempted to subscribe to is invite only.  You must be invited 
 by the group owner.
 
 If you have questions related to this or any other Google Group, visit the 
 Help Center at
 http://groups.google.com/support/.
 
 Thanks,
 
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 The list is approve-only, so a moderator will have to okay you to join. You 
 will be notified when that happens. If you have any trouble, let me know and 
 I can ask on the list.
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I tried to subscribed to Macvisionary a few weeks ago only to have the 
 GoogleGroups state that I was authorized to join this group. Obviously, I 
 am able to join others, as I am able to reply to your email. I too would 
 like to contact the owner to subscribe to this group, as I am also new to 
 the MacWorld since Labor Day weekend. Any assistance to accomplish this 
 would be gratefully appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
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 I am getting a macbook and need to learn alot. I need help subscribing to 
 macvisionaries.
 I cant subscribe via email or the google groups page.
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Re: trying to subscribe to macvisionaries

2013-10-20 Thread tcorson2
I was not successful either.  Received the same message about having to be 
invited.





Donna
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-Original Message- 
From: Rob

Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: trying to subscribe to macvisionaries

here is the message I got when using the email link to subscribe.
I got the same message Saturday.
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Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Hello
musicmaker...@gmail.com,

The group you attempted to subscribe to is invite only.  You must be
invited by the group owner.

If you have questions related to this or any other Google Group, visit
the Help Center at
http://groups.google.com/support/.

Thanks,

Google Groups

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Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
God is good all the time,  All the time God is good

On 10/20/2013 6:18 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

Just email:
macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com
The list is approve-only, so a moderator will have to okay you to join. 
You will be notified when that happens. If you have any trouble, let me 
know and I can ask on the list.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Hi,

I tried to subscribed to Macvisionary a few weeks ago only to have the 
GoogleGroups state that I was authorized to join this group. Obviously, I 
am able to join others, as I am able to reply to your email. I too would 
like to contact the owner to subscribe to this group, as I am also new to 
the MacWorld since Labor Day weekend. Any assistance to accomplish this 
would be gratefully appreciated.


Thanks in advance.

Best,
Eileen
On Oct 20, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,
I am getting a macbook and need to learn alot. I need help subscribing 
to macvisionaries.

I cant subscribe via email or the google groups page.
how can I contact the owner?
reply to
musicmaker...@gmail.com
Thanks,
Rob
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206-426-3505
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Re: trying to subscribe to macvisionaries

2013-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
Sorry guys. I have emailed the list about this problem, and I know one of the 
mods is always on there so hopefully we will hear back soon. Clearly the list 
subscription method has changed since I joined, and I didn't realize it. Sorry 
again for the confusion, and I'll let you know what I find out. I apologize in 
advance to this list in general for the off-topic traffic this may generate.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:30 PM, tcors...@cfl.rr.com wrote:

 I was not successful either.  Received the same message about having to be 
 invited.
 
 
 
 
 Donna
 tcors...@cfl.rr.com
 -Original Message- From: Rob
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:22 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: trying to subscribe to macvisionaries
 
 here is the message I got when using the email link to subscribe.
 I got the same message Saturday.
 --
 Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
 Hello
 musicmaker...@gmail.com,
 
 The group you attempted to subscribe to is invite only.  You must be
 invited by the group owner.
 
 If you have questions related to this or any other Google Group, visit
 the Help Center at
 http://groups.google.com/support/.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Google Groups
 
 --
 Thanks,
 Rob
 You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
 206-426-3505
 God is good all the time,  All the time God is good
 
 On 10/20/2013 6:18 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 Just email:
 macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com
 The list is approve-only, so a moderator will have to okay you to join. You 
 will be notified when that happens. If you have any trouble, let me know and 
 I can ask on the list.
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I tried to subscribed to Macvisionary a few weeks ago only to have the 
 GoogleGroups state that I was authorized to join this group. Obviously, I 
 am able to join others, as I am able to reply to your email. I too would 
 like to contact the owner to subscribe to this group, as I am also new to 
 the MacWorld since Labor Day weekend. Any assistance to accomplish this 
 would be gratefully appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am getting a macbook and need to learn alot. I need help subscribing to 
 macvisionaries.
 I cant subscribe via email or the google groups page.
 how can I contact the owner?
 reply to
 musicmaker...@gmail.com
 Thanks,
 Rob
 You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
 206-426-3505
 God is good all the time,  All the time God is good
 
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Re: trying to subscribe to macvisionaries

2013-10-20 Thread Teresa Cochran
You have to be approved first. It generally takes up to a couple of weeks. They 
do this so that spammers don't join the list. It's a problem with the big 
email-list services, and some of the smaller ones, for that matter.

HtH,
teresa

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On Oct 20, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry guys. I have emailed the list about this problem, and I know one of the 
 mods is always on there so hopefully we will hear back soon. Clearly the list 
 subscription method has changed since I joined, and I didn't realize it. 
 Sorry again for the confusion, and I'll let you know what I find out. I 
 apologize in advance to this list in general for the off-topic traffic this 
 may generate.
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:30 PM, tcors...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
 
 I was not successful either.  Received the same message about having to be 
 invited.
 
 
 
 
 Donna
 tcors...@cfl.rr.com
 -Original Message- From: Rob
 Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 7:22 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: trying to subscribe to macvisionaries
 
 here is the message I got when using the email link to subscribe.
 I got the same message Saturday.
 --
 Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
 Hello
 musicmaker...@gmail.com,
 
 The group you attempted to subscribe to is invite only.  You must be
 invited by the group owner.
 
 If you have questions related to this or any other Google Group, visit
 the Help Center at
 http://groups.google.com/support/.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Google Groups
 
 --
 Thanks,
 Rob
 You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
 206-426-3505
 God is good all the time,  All the time God is good
 
 On 10/20/2013 6:18 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 Just email:
 macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com
 The list is approve-only, so a moderator will have to okay you to join. You 
 will be notified when that happens. If you have any trouble, let me know 
 and I can ask on the list.
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I tried to subscribed to Macvisionary a few weeks ago only to have the 
 GoogleGroups state that I was authorized to join this group. Obviously, I 
 am able to join others, as I am able to reply to your email. I too would 
 like to contact the owner to subscribe to this group, as I am also new to 
 the MacWorld since Labor Day weekend. Any assistance to accomplish this 
 would be gratefully appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Best,
 Eileen
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am getting a macbook and need to learn alot. I need help subscribing to 
 macvisionaries.
 I cant subscribe via email or the google groups page.
 how can I contact the owner?
 reply to
 musicmaker...@gmail.com
 Thanks,
 Rob
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 206-426-3505
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Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-20 Thread Pablo Morales

No Chris. It is not maybe true. It is true. Period.
I paid for that iPhone, or for that iPad, or for that iDevice, or for that 
home, or for that parking lot. When you are talking about the city 
authority, who wants to install electric wires to my home, and this wires 
are for improve my life, is a good example. Even though it doesn't match the 
case of apple. Let me explain you why.
1. An electric wire that will be crossing my property, to share electricity 
with the community, it is something that will help the community, and the 
government, has specific laws for this kind of situations, when a property 
has to be affected in case of constructions of improvements to the 
community. In all these cases, the government, local, state, or federal, has 
to pay something to the owner of that property. Now, if the electric 
installation, is only for me. I have the right to say, No, I don't want it. 
Take your wires, transformer , and trucks and get out of my property. Of 
course, in this case I will be living like the in the stone age. With out 
electricity, with out air condition, refrigerator, TV an internet. Fatal. 
But I have my choice, I am able to say, NO.
2. If the decision of say no will affect me, it is a risk that I have to 
run. for example, if I like to live like in the stone age, ok, for me is 
cool live like this. I do not have to let the city install wires on my home, 
if I don't want.
3. In all cases, the installation of electric wires is with the intention of 
improve life, life quality. Now, what is the price that I have to pay for 
that improvement?

How much will be that improvement?
Really the improvement worth the effort?
In the case of an iPhone 4s, or 5s, the improvement will be good, or maybe 
the effects will not be so bad. But in the case of an iPhone 4, the effects 
would be worse.
Again, with the case of the wires and trucks and transformer  in your back 
yard. If the effects of install a transformater in your back yard, will be 
that you will miss your flowers, that they will cut your apple trees, and 
you will miss the space to place your motorcycle, then the  effect will not 
be so good.

Again, how much I have to pay for the electric wires on my home?
I really need it?
Now, and ending.
In the license agreement, anywhere says something about download data 
without agreement. Every time, when you press the agree button, you are 
accepting the conditions for that IOs version. But in this case, the 
download is not for the IOs that you agreed, it is for the next IOs, that 
you didn't agree yet.
Here is the issue. Apple downloaded it to our devices, without our 
agreement. When we didn't agree the license agreement of that download. We 
accepted, the conditions of the previous IOs, but not for the IOs that apple 
downloaded without our agreement. Let me be a little bit more graphic. When 
we installed Ios 6.x, we accepted the conditions and license of IOs 6, not 
for IOs 7, or IOs 8, or IOs 2000. Our agreement was only for IOs 6. Even 
though, anywhere in the license agreement, say anything about download 
software, of the following IOs version, IOs that we didn't agree yet, 
download that we never authorized.
Again. Anywhere in the license agreement, says anything related with the 
following IOs updates, anywhere says that we are accepting that they can 
download data of the following IOs, IOs that we didn't agree yet. It is 
their first mistake.
Their second mistake, is that they do not provide any way to remove the IOs, 
that we never agree, we agreed the version of IOs that we were using, for 
example 6.x. But we didn't agree the IOs 7 yet, any way, they downloaded 
without our authorization. Apple should provide a way to remove the IOs that 
we do not want to use, IOs that we do not want to agree the license 
agreement. I want to use the IOs that I like,no the IOs that apple wants, 
the IOs that I feel me conftable, and I signed and agreed it. But When I 
bought the iPhone, anywhere says anything about that is mandatory use the 
IOs that they want. No, it doesn't say anywhere. Also in the license 
agreement of each IOs, we accept and agree the license of that IOs, not of 
the following IOs updates. In the United States,  no body can create 
contracts that cover future modifications without agreement. Every time, 
when somebody wants to change the rules of a contract, they have to 
participate it for all parts. An Apple didn't this at any time. Apple never 
asked us about download an IOs that can not be remove of the memory. It can 
not be deleted, until we, mandatory, install it in our iDevice.
Apple didn't asked me about IOs updates mandatory, they didn't ask me about 
downloads without agreement, apple never asked about download data that is 
not possible to remove, until we update the IOs.

So are many mistakes here.








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