Re: Ways to read books

[Fred Olver]

Sheranda, I thouught someone said the Nook app was accessible once you have 
set up your account on bn.com

F
red Olver
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From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" 

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Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: Ways to read books



I just checked Kobo. They don't seem to have it. I saw it at Google
books, but can we use the iPhone to read that? It's an older book; I
think that's why it's so hard to find.

Sharonda

On 3/30/13, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello Sharonda,

Another place you could try is Kobo:
www.kobobooks.com

The Kobo app is accessible as long as it's set up correctly with page
transition style set to Scrolling.

Cheers,

Anne



On 30 Mar 2013, at 15:04, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:


Hello all,
I have a pretty pressing question--at least to me it is *smile*
I have been given a book recommendation. I didn't find it in the
iBookstore. I did find it at Barnes and Noble, however, it didn't say
it was a Nook Book. I would really love to read this on my iPhone.
What other ideas and places can you give me to look? I know these
things have been discussed before, but I didn't pay as much attention
to them. Thank you all for your help.

Sharonda

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Re: QR code reader/creator

[Fred Olver]

Hey, Steve, could you look it up in the app store?


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Subject: Re: QR code reader/creator



could you give me  more info about red lazer

On 3/29/13, Alan Paganelli  wrote:
Red Lazer is accessible and free.  It's one of the most popular apps in 
the

apple app store.
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  Hi.

  Can someone suggest a good QR code reader for the iPhone, and if there 
is

also a code generator that works well with iOS?


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Re: Standscan pro

[Fred Olver]

Hi Lori,

Suggest you look through the list archives or go to the website 
http://www.standscanr.com  Lots and lots of good information in both places. 
Also, you might go to http://www.applevis.com and see if there is anything 
over there about it.


Fred Olver
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Subject: Standscan pro



Hi all,

What is this standdscan pro and what does it do and used for? And how much 
does it cost? Thanks for answering my question.


Lori and the Gipper

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Re: CoolBlindTech Episode 12 - Sixth Sense

[Fred Olver]

Lisa, once the item starts playing you can save it from the windows media 
player window.  At least that's what I did anyway. Ordinarily with a dropbox 
link I can just hit the applications key and arrow down to save target and 
hit return and then tab through the selections. I'm using Jaws 14.


Fred Olver

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Subject: Re: CoolBlindTech Episode 12 - Sixth Sense


Hi.  Maybe I'm missing something, but clicking on the download episode 
takes me to this dropbox link.  However, it starts streaming rather than 
downloading.  The link I'm using is:


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10084394/CBT%20Perm/CBT-012-SixthSense.mp3
Any thoughts?

Lisa



I've Got A Mind Like A Steel Trap - Rusty and Illegal In 37 States.
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missktlab1...@frontier.com

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Subject: CoolBlindTech Episode 12 - Sixth Sense


Hi All

Below is a link to a quick podcast on the iOS game Sixth Sense. For those 
not already aware of it, it is a 3D audio game where you need to take out 
zombies.


Cool Blind Tech is a new podcast I have been working on with a friend or 
two. The podcast is about a variety of blindness related subjects and this 
is the first iOS related episode. Please feel free to check it out in 
iTunes or your favourite pod catcher by searching for CoolBlindTech. If 
you listen to episode 1, we give a basic introduction to the podcast and 
give an overview of the intentions behind the show. There's currently also 
a number of CSUN related episodes on the site.


http://coolblindtech.com/podcast/sixth-sense-cbt-123302013


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Re: one thing I wish apple would change

[Fred Olver]

to get to assistive items go to settings, general, and then to accessability. 
Once you are there it is nearly the last item in the bunch You want to go to 
the heading assistive touch, below that are the items you will need to work 
with.

Fred Olver

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  Subject: Re: one thing I wish apple would change


  No how do you get to that?
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On Apr 6, 2013, at 9:56 AM, "Troy Sullivan"  
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  Good morning all,
  This is a  suggestion and maybe there is a fix to this and I don't know 
about it. but I have something that I think apple needs to change or needs to 
make better. Because of the strong medication I take it kind of messes with my 
hand cordination, my hands are not always stable so like when I do the 
doubletap and hold to delete something sometimes I have to do it several times 
before I get it. This morning I tried to do the roter and my hands just weren't 
having it today so I had to use the keybord to change my roter setting. I know 
I'm probably not the only one out there with hand cordination issues, but is 
there a setting or something I can do to make the jestures easier for me to do? 
Also if someone has a way I can contact apple's accessibility dept about this 
please let me know.
  Thanks.

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Re: OldHat iPhone Guide, was RE: new to iphone

[Fred Olver]

I believe it will be available on April 15.

Fred
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Subject: Re: OldHat iPhone Guide, was RE: new to iphone


Is it available?
At 08:45 PM 4/6/2013, you wrote:
The book is a 12-step guide to using your iPhone.  It is written from the 
standpoint of one of our team members, Brie rumory, who was scared to death 
of the iPhone her husband got her for Christmas over a year ago, to finally 
deciding it was time to learn to use it.  The book goes through all of the 
settings as well as the default apps that come on the phone, as well as 
accessibility, text input and management, Siri, the itunes and App stores, 
and whatever else you'll need to know to be up and running with your 
iPhone.  It is a great resource also even if you've been using your phone 
for awhile, as a reference for those things you may have done but have 
forgotten how to do.


It is written with some humor while providing so much information.  It is 
comprehensive yet not boring at any moment.  I believe it is a must have in 
the library of anyone who has, is considering getting, or works with anyone 
who has an iPhone.


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On Apr 6, 2013, at 2:31 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
<kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:



Hi,

Thanks. I looked at the website, but couldn’t find details such as Table 
of Contents, etc. Sorry if I missed them.


How much is there in this book about using iTunes on the PC or Mac side, 
for backing up, synching, managing media, etc?


Thanks. Keith


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Subject: OldHat iPhone Guide, was RE: new to iphone

http://oldhatguide.com/preordernow
The Old Hat Guide To iPhone Accessibility Was written by the blind, for 
the blind. It is available now for preorder, and will be in the iBookstore 
beginning April 15. All the information about it, as well as the 
opportunity to preorder, are available at the above link.


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On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:55 PM, "Troy Sullivan" 
<troysulliva...@gmail.com> wrote:

A good sight is http://www.applevis.com
Also I forget the website but there's a book out there for IPhone users 
for the blind you can get via download or braille.

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Subject: new to iphone

Hello
I just got an IPhone yesterday. Can someone refer me to some good 
podcasts or tutorials to help me getting started?

thanks in advance.
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Re: At bat question

[Fred Olver]

You ought to be able to listen on your computer using your atbat 
information.


Fred Olver
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Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 7:23 AM
Subject: At bat question



Hi all.
I got the at-bat app, but in having a problem with my wireless. Is there 
anyway that I can listen to the games on my computer, though I did get the 
subscription to the at vat ap? Or, do I now have to buy a MLB 
subscription.


Jenifer Barr
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Re: whatsapp

[Fred Olver]

What's the big deal, I looked, it's only $0.99 U.S.

Fred Olver
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  Subject: Re: whatsapp


  Nope, not unless the manufacturer decides to give it away promotion. This 
occasionally happens with various apps. There are apps that track sales and 
free-sales in the App Store.

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  On 08/04/2013, at 8:25, "rami"  wrote:


hello friends.
Is there a way to get WhatsApp for free? I used to install it for free on 
Symbian, and i don't have money currently to pay for it. any help will be 
greatly appreciated.

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Re: whatsapp

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Okay, thanks for the insite.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 11:09 PM
  Subject: RE: whatsapp


  Hi Fred,

   

  To you or me and maybe to most people on this list 99 Cents is not an amount 
we think about a lot. However, keep in mind that there are people on this list 
from countries like Vietnam, India, some African countries and who knows where 
else to whom spending a Dollar may not be something they just can do without 
thinking about it. Yes, if somebody from such a country has an iPhone that 
might be an indication that they are not as poor as others although the iDevice 
they have may just be an older iPhone 3GS that was passed on to them. In any 
case, I don't think it's very respectful to tell anybody it's only 99 Cents so 
what's the big deal because those 99 Cents may in some countries just be most 
of the food money for a day. My girl-friend in the Philippines works 9 hours a 
day and 6 days a week waitressing in a hotel restaurant and she takes home 
about $5 a day for that. Even those of us in North American, Australia and most 
European countries who have little are very lucky to be where they are.

   

  There are also people to whom $10 or $20 or even $100 isn't a big deal, but I 
bet if you commented that you couldn't afford something right that moment and 
it was $100 you would not appreciate some rich person's comment "What's the big 
deal, it's only a hundred bucks".

   

  OK, I don't want to start a big debate about poverty and all that and I don't 
want to offend you in any way, Fred, but I have been to third-world countries 
and such comments just rub me the wrong way. It's too bad Apple doesn't allow 
people to gift any apps to people in other countries because otherwise I'd just 
send that person the What's Up app.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

   


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fred Olver
  Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 8:31 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: whatsapp

   

  What's the big deal, I looked, it's only $0.99 U.S.

   

  Fred Olver

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From: David Chittenden 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 10:28 PM

Subject: Re: whatsapp

 

Nope, not unless the manufacturer decides to give it away promotion. This 
occasionally happens with various apps. There are apps that track sales and 
free-sales in the App Store.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 

Email: dchitten...@gmail.com

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Sent from my iPhone


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  Is there a way to get WhatsApp for free? I used to install it for free on 
Symbian, and i don't have money currently to pay for it. any help will be 
greatly appreciated.

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Re: OldHat iPhone Guide, was RE: new to iphone

[Fred Olver]

It will be available on the 15th.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "John Kolwick" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: OldHat iPhone Guide, was RE: new to iphone


 Apparently, it is supposed to be released  in the next week or two.
You can preorder the book now.


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Is it available?
At 08:45 PM 4/6/2013, you wrote:
The book is a 12-step guide to using your iPhone.  It is written from the 
standpoint of one of our team members, Brie rumory, who was scared to 
death of the iPhone her husband got her for Christmas over a year ago, to 
finally deciding it was time to learn to use it.  The book goes through 
all of the settings as well as the default apps that come on the phone, as 
well as accessibility, text input and management, Siri, the itunes and App 
stores, and whatever else you'll need to know to be up and running with 
your iPhone.  It is a great resource also even if you've been using your 
phone for awhile, as a reference for those things you may have done but 
have forgotten how to do.


It is written with some humor while providing so much information.  It is 
comprehensive yet not boring at any moment.  I believe it is a must have 
in the library of anyone who has, is considering getting, or works with 
anyone who has an iPhone.


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On Apr 6, 2013, at 2:31 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
<<mailto:kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:



Hi,

Thanks. I looked at the website, but couldn’t find details such as Table 
of Contents, etc. Sorry if I missed them.


How much is there in this book about using iTunes on the PC or Mac side, 
for backing up, synching, managing media, etc?


Thanks. Keith


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Subject: OldHat iPhone Guide, was RE: new to iphone

<http://oldhatguide.com/preordernow>http://oldhatguide.com/preordernow
The Old Hat Guide To iPhone Accessibility Was written by the blind, for 
the blind. It is available now for preorder, and will be in the 
iBookstore beginning April 15. All the information about it, as well as 
the opportunity to preorder, are available at the above link.


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On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:55 PM, "Troy Sullivan" 
<<mailto:troysulliva...@gmail.com>troysulliva...@gmail.com> wrote:

A good sight is <http://www.applevis.com>http://www.applevis.com
Also I forget the website but there's a book out there for IPhone users 
for the blind you can get via download or braille.

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From: <mailto:ikrami.ah...@gmail.com>rami
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: new to iphone

Hello
I just got an IPhone yesterday. Can someone refer me to some good 
podcasts or tutorials to help me getting started?

thanks in advance.
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Re: Some questions

[Fred Olver]

For Standscan go to http://www.standscan.com

Which is better? I believe they are for different things. If you want to 
recognize items with looktell you can develop your own database.


Fred Olver
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Subject: Some questions



Hello I want to ask some questions
Ware I can buy scan stand I am in ksa
Second what better looktell or degetis

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What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do
What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple it's a wonder 
you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the I-devices, there is a simple yet 
often-overlooked task which will easily bring you the information you crave. 

What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me. 

Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space marked, very 
clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily found Where??? Ah, yet another 
question and yet one which answer is not the commonly used phrase, "Over 
there", why it is, are you ready for this, are you sure you are ready? It is 
after all your waiting to find an answer which has iluded mankind for hmmm 
maybe 20 seconds or so, of course, in the app store. See that wasn't so 
difficult, now, here are the directions. Merely double-tap on the "app store" 
Icon on your i-Device, wait for it to open and then, then, look down at the 
bottom of the page which you will come to. There are five buttons labeled from 
left to right: "Featured", "top Charts" "genius" "search" and last but not 
least "updates". 

Now, all you have to do after tapping the "search" item, a new screen will 
appear in which you will be presented with an on-screen keyboard, or, you can 
use an external keyboard, either Braille or standard to gain the information 
you so badly crave. Then all you need do is enter the necessary information 
field using voice, keyboard bluetooth or keyboard on the phone and tap "search" 
and voila, the information appears. This feature can be used to find hidden 
apps like tap tap see, four square, or perhapse you want to look up 4square. 
Words like radio or music can present you with literally hundreds of functional 
applications. Perhapse you  long for apps which might be of use to you 
tomorrow, Saturday, or maybe even next week. 

Be sure to keep this document in case you forget what to do, lets again, 
refresh, 

1. Find app store on your i-device
2. Double tap to open this item.
3. find the WORD "SEARCH" near the bottom of the screen, double-tap on it at 
which point you will be presented with an on-screen keyboard or you can use an 
external one if you wish, 
4. Type the name of what you are looking for or something like rpg's or text 
adventures or cooking or games 
5. Again, double-tap the "search" button by using a keyboard to input your 
information your choice and off you go.

I hope this has been helpful, compared to making use of some of the apps 
available for the iPhone this is truly a very easy task to accomplish. 

If you still do not feel you understand this task, let me know and I will 
indeed be glad to put together a podcast and if enough of you ask me too, I'll 
see about putting it up on "applevis", what is that, you ask, well, that's for 
another night. but that's another message.

Later folks.

Happy searching.

Fred Olver

Thanks to Ester and Jonathon for all of your previous posts teaching all of us 
what we need to know, I only hope I have come close in presenting the necessary 
information for those who are having difficulty accomplishing this task.

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Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so tired of folks 
asking what does it do when they could so easily find out the information for 
themselves.
Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before postting to the list.

Fred
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wil James 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:07 AM
  Subject: Re: What do they do???


  You forgot the other burning question. How much does it cost?

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  On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Fred Olver"  wrote:


Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do
What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple it's a 
wonder you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the I-devices, there is a 
simple yet often-overlooked task which will easily bring you the information 
you crave. 

What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me. 

Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space marked, 
very clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily found Where??? Ah, yet another 
question and yet one which answer is not the commonly used phrase, "Over 
there", why it is, are you ready for this, are you sure you are ready? It is 
after all your waiting to find an answer which has iluded mankind for hmmm 
maybe 20 seconds or so, of course, in the app store. See that wasn't so 
difficult, now, here are the directions. Merely double-tap on the "app store" 
Icon on your i-Device, wait for it to open and then, then, look down at the 
bottom of the page which you will come to. There are five buttons labeled from 
left to right: "Featured", "top Charts" "genius" "search" and last but not 
least "updates". 

Now, all you have to do after tapping the "search" item, a new screen will 
appear in which you will be presented with an on-screen keyboard, or, you can 
use an external keyboard, either Braille or standard to gain the information 
you so badly crave. Then all you need do is enter the necessary information 
field using voice, keyboard bluetooth or keyboard on the phone and tap "search" 
and voila, the information appears. This feature can be used to find hidden 
apps like tap tap see, four square, or perhapse you want to look up 4square. 
Words like radio or music can present you with literally hundreds of functional 
applications. Perhapse you  long for apps which might be of use to you 
tomorrow, Saturday, or maybe even next week. 

Be sure to keep this document in case you forget what to do, lets again, 
refresh, 

1. Find app store on your i-device
2. Double tap to open this item.
3. find the WORD "SEARCH" near the bottom of the screen, double-tap on it 
at which point you will be presented with an on-screen keyboard or you can use 
an external one if you wish, 
4. Type the name of what you are looking for or something like rpg's or 
text adventures or cooking or games 
5. Again, double-tap the "search" button by using a keyboard to input your 
information your choice and off you go.

I hope this has been helpful, compared to making use of some of the apps 
available for the iPhone this is truly a very easy task to accomplish. 

If you still do not feel you understand this task, let me know and I will 
indeed be glad to put together a podcast and if enough of you ask me too, I'll 
see about putting it up on "applevis", what is that, you ask, well, that's for 
another night. but that's another message.

Later folks.

Happy searching.

Fred Olver

Thanks to Ester and Jonathon for all of your previous posts teaching all of 
us what we need to know, I only hope I have come close in presenting the 
necessary information for those who are having difficulty accomplishing this 
task.



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Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

ACtually, Dan, the information displayed when you choose an app does give you 
information about what the app is for or what it does. I suppose it's all a 
matter of interpretation, I just get tired of people asking what an app does 
when the explanation is readily available.

Fred
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Beaver GMail 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:21 AM
  Subject: Re: What do they do???


  Hi Fred,

  I hate to be the stick in the mud here but this only helps find aps.  I have 
used it a great deal and still do not know what most apps do.

  I do this to search for apps and then have tried looking under the info 
displayed when you double click on the app title and under reviews and under 
related.

  None of these tend to have anything that describes what the app actually does.

  If you have a way to find this description info I sure would like to hear of 
it.

  Thanks.

  Dan Beaver


  From: Fred Olver 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:47 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: What do they do???


  Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do
  What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple it's a 
wonder you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the I-devices, there is a 
simple yet often-overlooked task which will easily bring you the information 
you crave. 

  What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me. 

  Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space marked, very 
clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily found Where??? Ah, yet another 
question and yet one which answer is not the commonly used phrase, "Over 
there", why it is, are you ready for this, are you sure you are ready? It is 
after all your waiting to find an answer which has iluded mankind for hmmm 
maybe 20 seconds or so, of course, in the app store. See that wasn't so 
difficult, now, here are the directions. Merely double-tap on the "app store" 
Icon on your i-Device, wait for it to open and then, then, look down at the 
bottom of the page which you will come to. There are five buttons labeled from 
left to right: "Featured", "top Charts" "genius" "search" and last but not 
least "updates". 

  Now, all you have to do after tapping the "search" item, a new screen will 
appear in which you will be presented with an on-screen keyboard, or, you can 
use an external keyboard, either Braille or standard to gain the information 
you so badly crave. Then all you need do is enter the necessary information 
field using voice, keyboard bluetooth or keyboard on the phone and tap "search" 
and voila, the information appears. This feature can be used to find hidden 
apps like tap tap see, four square, or perhapse you want to look up 4square. 
Words like radio or music can present you with literally hundreds of functional 
applications. Perhapse you  long for apps which might be of use to you 
tomorrow, Saturday, or maybe even next week. 

  Be sure to keep this document in case you forget what to do, lets again, 
refresh, 

  1. Find app store on your i-device
  2. Double tap to open this item.
  3. find the WORD "SEARCH" near the bottom of the screen, double-tap on it at 
which point you will be presented with an on-screen keyboard or you can use an 
external one if you wish, 
  4. Type the name of what you are looking for or something like rpg's or text 
adventures or cooking or games 
  5. Again, double-tap the "search" button by using a keyboard to input your 
information your choice and off you go.

  I hope this has been helpful, compared to making use of some of the apps 
available for the iPhone this is truly a very easy task to accomplish. 

  If you still do not feel you understand this task, let me know and I will 
indeed be glad to put together a podcast and if enough of you ask me too, I'll 
see about putting it up on "applevis", what is that, you ask, well, that's for 
another night. but that's another message.

  Later folks.

  Happy searching.

  Fred Olver

  Thanks to Ester and Jonathon for all of your previous posts teaching all of 
us what we need to know, I only hope I have come close in presenting the 
necessary information for those who are having difficulty accomplishing this 
task.



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Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating that 
somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the information 
at their fingertips to find the information themselves rather than ask on 
such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of two messages in a row 
which asked the question of two different app's, what does it do.


Fred
- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a row that 
asked the same question, "What does it do - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do???


Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and condescending 
myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I doubt many of the 
targeted audience is going to have the patience to read such an email let 
alone follow the tips tucked in it. I also wonder how much time was spent 
writing and reading such a message as opposed to just hitting the delete 
key when someone asks a question you can't or don't want to answer. I find 
the one liners like "What does this app do?" or "How much does it cost?" 
to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the 
moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such behavior, I 
don't think it's going to change human behavior much, and I think it's 
best left to Raul and the moderators.


On 04/11/2013 06:40 AM, Fred Olver wrote:

Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so tired of
folks asking what does it do when they could so easily find out the
information for themselves.
Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before postting to the 
list.

Fred

- Original Message -
*From:* Wil James <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:07 AM
*Subject:* Re: What do they do???

You forgot the other burning question. How much does it cost?

Sent from Wil's iPhone 4S
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On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Fred Olver" mailto:goodfo...@charter.net>> wrote:


Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do
What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple
it's a wonder you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the
I-devices, there is a simple yet often-overlooked task which will
easily bring you the information you crave.
What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me.
Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space
marked, very clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily found
Where??? Ah, yet another question and yet one which answer is not
the commonly used phrase, "Over there", why it is, are you ready
for this, are you sure you are ready? It is after all your waiting
to find an answer which has iluded mankind for hmmm maybe 20
seconds or so, of course, in the app store. See that wasn't so
difficult, now, here are the directions. Merely double-tap on the
"app store" Icon on your i-Device, wait for it to open and then,
then, look down at the bottom of the page which you will come to.
There are five buttons labeled from left to right: "Featured",
"top Charts" "genius" "search" and last but not least "updates".
Now, all you have to do after tapping the "search" item, a new
screen will appear in which you will be presented with an
on-screen keyboard, or, you can use an external keyboard, either
Braille or standard to gain the information you so badly crave.
Then all you need do is enter the necessary information field
using voice, keyboard bluetooth or keyboard on the phone and tap
"search" and voila, the information appears. This feature can be
used to find hidden apps like tap tap see, four square, or
perhapse you want to look up 4square. Words like radio or music
can present you with literally hundreds of functional
applications. Perhapse you  long for apps which might be of use to
you tomorrow, Saturday, or maybe even next week.
Be sure to keep this document in case you forget what to do, lets
again, refresh,
1. Find app store on your i-device
2. Double tap to open this item.
3. find the WORD "SEARCH" near the bottom of the screen,
double-tap on it at which point you will be presented with an
on-screen keyboard or you can use an external one if you wish,
4. Type the name of what you are looking for or something like
rpg's or text adventures or cooking or games
5. Again, double-tap the "s

Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

Patty, if the information is readily available, why ask the list? Aren't we 
supposed to be able to do some things on our own or have we all become so 
lazy that rather than find out ourselves that we must bring it to the list 
because we can't take the time to find out for ourselves?
- Original Message - 
From: "Patti Johnson" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to this
list; and she said if  you're told to do your research all the time then
what's the point of the list?
I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many times the
question is asked.
Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't. Or
their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any email 
list,

because we don't know where the person writing in is coming from.  Just my
humble opinion. And actually if you don't want to answer that person on 
list

write to them privately, which would take away from the high traffic.
Patti





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating that
somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the 
information

at their fingertips to find the information themselves rather than ask on
such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of two messages in a row
which asked the question of two different app's, what does it do.

Fred
- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a row that
asked the same question, "What does it do -
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do???



Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and
condescending myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I
doubt many of the targeted audience is going to have the patience to
read such an email let alone follow the tips tucked in it. I also
wonder how much time was spent writing and reading such a message as
opposed to just hitting the delete key when someone asks a question
you can't or don't want to answer. I find the one liners like "What does

this app do?" or "How much does it cost?"

to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the
moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such behavior, I
don't think it's going to change human behavior much, and I think it's
best left to Raul and the moderators.

On 04/11/2013 06:40 AM, Fred Olver wrote:

Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so tired
of folks asking what does it do when they could so easily find out
the information for themselves.
Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before postting to the
list.
Fred

- Original Message -
*From:* Wil James <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:07 AM
*Subject:* Re: What do they do???

You forgot the other burning question. How much does it cost?

Sent from Wil's iPhone 4S
--
E-mail or iMessage: w...@wilanddenise.com
<mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
Twitter: wiljames
zellow: wilcjames


On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Fred Olver" mailto:goodfo...@charter.net>> wrote:


Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do
What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple
it's a wonder you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the
I-devices, there is a simple yet often-overlooked task which will
easily bring you the information you crave.
What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me.
Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space
marked, very clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily found
Where??? Ah, yet another question and yet one which answer is not
the commonly used phrase, "Over there", why it is, are you ready
for this, are you sure you are ready? It is after all your waiting
to find an answer which has iluded mankind for hmmm maybe 20
seconds or so, of course, in the app store. See that wasn't so
difficult, now, here are the directions. Merely double-tap on the
"app store" Icon on your i-Device, wait for it to open and then,
then, look down at the bottom of the page which you will come to.
There are five buttons labeled from left to right: "Featured",
"top Charts" "genius" "search" and last but not least "updates".

Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

Maybe they come to you because that way they don't have to do it themselves.


- Original Message - 
From: "Patti Johnson" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???


I do have friends who hardly will ever try to figure things out on their 
own

because they don't have the confidence in themselves, they are afraid of
doing something wrong.
I am not saying there is  right or wrong in any of this; I just think 
those

that ask should be respected and answered even if we ourselves wish they
would do their own work.
I have done a lot of stuff for people that I think they should be able to 
do
for themselves, yet over and over again when they need help they come to 
me

for it and I think to myself, they need to learn this on their own but if
they won't because they are fearful of making a mistake, then I have to 
help

them.
Patti






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Patty, if the information is readily available, why ask the list? Aren't 
we

supposed to be able to do some things on our own or have we all become so
lazy that rather than find out ourselves that we must bring it to the list
because we can't take the time to find out for ourselves?
- Original Message -
From: "Patti Johnson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to
this  list; and she said if  you're told to do your research all the
time then  what's the point of the list?
I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many times
the  question is asked.
Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't.
Or  their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any
email  list,  because we don't know where the person writing in is
coming from.  Just my  humble opinion. And actually if you don't want
to answer that person on  list  write to them privately, which would
take away from the high traffic.
Patti





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating
that somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the
information at their fingertips to find the information themselves
rather than ask on such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of
two messages in a row which asked the question of two different app's,
what does it do.

Fred
- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a row
that asked the same question, "What does it do -
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do???



Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and
condescending myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I
doubt many of the targeted audience is going to have the patience to
read such an email let alone follow the tips tucked in it. I also
wonder how much time was spent writing and reading such a message as
opposed to just hitting the delete key when someone asks a question
you can't or don't want to answer. I find the one liners like "What
does

this app do?" or "How much does it cost?"

to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the
moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such behavior,
I don't think it's going to change human behavior much, and I think
it's best left to Raul and the moderators.

On 04/11/2013 06:40 AM, Fred Olver wrote:

Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so tired
of folks asking what does it do when they could so easily find out
the information for themselves.
Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before postting to
the list.
Fred

- Original Message -
*From:* Wil James <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:07 AM
*Subject:* Re: What do they do???

You forgot the other burning question. How much does it cost?

Sent from Wil's iPhone 4S
------
    E-mail or iMessage: w...@wilanddenise.com
<mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
Twitter: wiljames
zellow: wilcjames


On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Fred Olver" mailto:goodfo...@charter.net>> wrote:


Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do
What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple
it's a wonder you didn't think of it 

Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

I don't mind hitting the "delete" key, I just happen to feel that if folks 
would look for the information for themselves rather than asking someone 
else to do it for them there would be alot less traffic on the list.


Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "Carrie Snodgrass" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:52 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



Patti, you're a kind soul.  I feel like I have some of that patience with
others, but not to the extent that you do.  I'm all for helping others, as
long as they try to learn as we go.  However, there is a point when one 
has

to do for themselves.  I live a very full life, surrounded by sighted
people, and there's been more than one occasion in which I'm complaining
about all the "blind bums," and my friends and family have had to gently
explained to me that just because I have a lot of self-confidence doesn't
mean that everyone else does and just because blind people don't/can't
always learn/do for themselves doesn't make them lazy.  So, long story
short, I respect Patti's view, but probably feel more as Fred does.
Having said that though, there will be A LOT less traffic and confusion if
everyone would just get along.  Everyone's free to ask questions, just as
everyone is free to answer them or not.  We're all on this list to gain
support and knowledge from other IOS users.  If a particular topic doesn't
interest you, DELETE is the "key."  It takes way less time to hit Delete a
few times than to draft a complaint about a topic for which you have no
concern in the first place.
Carrie
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Patti Johnson
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do they do???

I do have friends who hardly will ever try to figure things out on their 
own

because they don't have the confidence in themselves, they are afraid of
doing something wrong.
I am not saying there is  right or wrong in any of this; I just think 
those

that ask should be respected and answered even if we ourselves wish they
would do their own work.
I have done a lot of stuff for people that I think they should be able to 
do
for themselves, yet over and over again when they need help they come to 
me

for it and I think to myself, they need to learn this on their own but if
they won't because they are fearful of making a mistake, then I have to 
help

them.
Patti






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Patty, if the information is readily available, why ask the list? Aren't 
we

supposed to be able to do some things on our own or have we all become so
lazy that rather than find out ourselves that we must bring it to the list
because we can't take the time to find out for ourselves?
- Original Message -
From: "Patti Johnson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to
this  list; and she said if  you're told to do your research all the
time then  what's the point of the list?
I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many times
the  question is asked.
Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't.
Or  their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any
email  list,  because we don't know where the person writing in is
coming from.  Just my  humble opinion. And actually if you don't want
to answer that person on  list  write to them privately, which would
take away from the high traffic.
Patti





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating
that somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the
information at their fingertips to find the information themselves
rather than ask on such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of
two messages in a row which asked the question of two different app's,
what does it do.

Fred
- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a row
that asked the same question, "What does it do -
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do???



Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and
condescending myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I
doubt many of the targeted audience is going to have the patience to
read such an email let alone fo

Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

Researching? If you wanted to get an app for your phone you would have to do 
the same thing anyway, so if you are thinking about getting it, why not do 
the searching yourself?


Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



Thank you Patti for expressing the same thoughts I had while reading this
thread.  If people don't feel like responding to the "what does this app 
do"
question, then the delete key would serve them perfectly.  Nobody is 
forcing
them to become involved in such a thread anyway.  Some people aren't as 
good

at researching as others, some people are lazy, and so on.  There are all
kinds of people from many different backgrounds.  Quite frankly, arrogance
doesn't usually help others.  If I don't know the answer, or if I don't 
want

to reply to a question for whatever reason, I press the delete key.  It is
that simple.

DJ


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Patti Johnson
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do they do???

I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to this
list; and she said if  you're told to do your research all the time then
what's the point of the list?
I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many times the
question is asked.
Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't. Or
their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any email 
list,

because we don't know where the person writing in is coming from.  Just my
humble opinion. And actually if you don't want to answer that person on 
list

write to them privately, which would take away from the high traffic.
Patti





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating that
somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the 
information

at their fingertips to find the information themselves rather than ask on
such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of two messages in a row
which asked the question of two different app's, what does it do.

Fred
- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a row that
asked the same question, "What does it do -
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do???



Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and
condescending myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I
doubt many of the targeted audience is going to have the patience to
read such an email let alone follow the tips tucked in it. I also
wonder how much time was spent writing and reading such a message as
opposed to just hitting the delete key when someone asks a question
you can't or don't want to answer. I find the one liners like "What
does

this app do?" or "How much does it cost?"

to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the
moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such behavior, I
don't think it's going to change human behavior much, and I think it's
best left to Raul and the moderators.

On 04/11/2013 06:40 AM, Fred Olver wrote:

Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so tired
of folks asking what does it do when they could so easily find out
the information for themselves.
Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before postting to the
list.
Fred

- Original Message -
*From:* Wil James <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:07 AM
*Subject:* Re: What do they do???

You forgot the other burning question. How much does it cost?

Sent from Wil's iPhone 4S
------
    E-mail or iMessage: w...@wilanddenise.com
<mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
Twitter: wiljames
zellow: wilcjames


On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Fred Olver" mailto:goodfo...@charter.net>> wrote:


Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do
What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple
it's a wonder you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the
I-devices, there is a simple yet often-overlooked task which will
easily bring you the information you crave.
What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me.
Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space
marked, very clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily f

Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

DJ, if you are searching for an app, or going to buy or put an app on your 
phone you'd have to go through steps, what's so hard about doing this? I 
just don't see it.


Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???


Fred, you are assuming that they are all lazy.  That is indeed not the 
case.

Should we assume that if you ask us a question, whether or not you've done
your homework, that you are being lazy as well?  I don't usually tend to
make that assumption about people.

DJ


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Maybe they come to you because that way they don't have to do it 
themselves.



- Original Message -
From: "Patti Johnson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I do have friends who hardly will ever try to figure things out on their
own
because they don't have the confidence in themselves, they are afraid of
doing something wrong.
I am not saying there is  right or wrong in any of this; I just think
those
that ask should be respected and answered even if we ourselves wish they
would do their own work.
I have done a lot of stuff for people that I think they should be able to
do
for themselves, yet over and over again when they need help they come to
me
for it and I think to myself, they need to learn this on their own but if
they won't because they are fearful of making a mistake, then I have to
help
them.
Patti






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Patty, if the information is readily available, why ask the list? Aren't
we
supposed to be able to do some things on our own or have we all become so
lazy that rather than find out ourselves that we must bring it to the 
list

because we can't take the time to find out for ourselves?
- Original Message -
From: "Patti Johnson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to
this  list; and she said if  you're told to do your research all the
time then  what's the point of the list?
I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many times
the  question is asked.
Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't.
Or  their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any
email  list,  because we don't know where the person writing in is
coming from.  Just my  humble opinion. And actually if you don't want
to answer that person on  list  write to them privately, which would
take away from the high traffic.
Patti





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating
that somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the
information at their fingertips to find the information themselves
rather than ask on such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of
two messages in a row which asked the question of two different app's,
what does it do.

Fred
- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a row
that asked the same question, "What does it do -
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do???



Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and
condescending myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I
doubt many of the targeted audience is going to have the patience to
read such an email let alone follow the tips tucked in it. I also
wonder how much time was spent writing and reading such a message as
opposed to just hitting the delete key when someone asks a question
you can't or don't want to answer. I find the one liners like "What
does

this app do?" or "How much does it cost?"

to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the
moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such behavior,
I don't think it's going to change human behavior much, and I think
it's best left to Raul and the moderators.

On 04/11/2013 06:40 AM, Fred Olver wrote:

Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so tired
of folks asking what does it do when they could so easily find out
the information for themselves.
Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before posttin

Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

Debby, it's not about asking questions. It's about doing something or not 
doing something that one could do themselves. Let's say you want to take off 
your shoe, and it is tied, well, you of course untie the shoe, right? Well 
if you want to find out about an app, maybe you are going to buy it, or if 
it is free, just put it on your phone, you search for it in the app store, 
don't you? Well, I saw two successive messages on two different apps which 
asked the question, what does it do, when they could have just as easily 
looked to see for themselves. I certainly don't mind answering questions 
about apps either, however the obvious causes me frustration, you wouldn't 
ask me to untie your shoe, you would untie it yourself. If a person can 
untie their shoe than they ought to be able to search for an app. Like last 
week, I had forgotten how to delete an app from my phone, something I hadn't 
done in about six months, what did I do? I didn't ask the list, which I 
guess I could have, I looked up the information in the book entitled Getting 
started with the iPhone. It helped refresh my memory as to what to do 
regarding other things and I was indeed able to find the information on my 
own, and I didn't clutter up the list with a question when I could easily 
find the information on my own. I don't say, don't ask, I say don't ask if 
you have the information at your fingertips.


Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "Debbie Worstman" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I just want to say that I do not post to the list often, but I have gotten
some very good information from reading please don't let this make you
fearful of asking questions.
If asking questions makes the difference in someone either using there
iDevice or giving up on it then please ask away.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Simon Wong
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

I am new to this phone, I can I not ask questions?

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-04-11, at 10:44 AM, "Fred Olver"  wrote:


Maybe they come to you because that way they don't have to do it

themselves.



- Original Message - From: "Patti Johnson"

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I do have friends who hardly will ever try to figure things out on
their own because they don't have the confidence in themselves, they
are afraid of doing something wrong.
I am not saying there is  right or wrong in any of this; I just think
those that ask should be respected and answered even if we ourselves
wish they would do their own work.
I have done a lot of stuff for people that I think they should be
able to do for themselves, yet over and over again when they need
help they come to me for it and I think to myself, they need to learn
this on their own but if they won't because they are fearful of
making a mistake, then I have to help them.
Patti






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Patty, if the information is readily available, why ask the list?
Aren't we supposed to be able to do some things on our own or have we
all become so lazy that rather than find out ourselves that we must
bring it to the list because we can't take the time to find out for

ourselves?

- Original Message -
From: "Patti Johnson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to
this  list; and she said if  you're told to do your research all the
time then  what's the point of the list?
I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many
times the  question is asked.
Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't.
Or  their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any
email  list,  because we don't know where the person writing in is
coming from.  Just my  humble opinion. And actually if you don't
want to answer that person on  list  write to them privately, which
would take away from the high traffic.
Patti





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating
that somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the
information at their fingertips to find the information themselves
rather than ask on such a high-traffic list. This 

Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

And my motto is don't ask if you can find the information yourself.

Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: What do they do???



Here's my one liner for the day.

Keep asking questions. That's what the list is fore. Just don't send me a 
thank you on the list. .


--
Raul A. Gallegos
Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 4/11/2013 2:34 PM, Debbie Worstman wrote:
I just want to say that I do not post to the list often, but I have 
gotten

some very good information from reading please don't let this make you
fearful of asking questions.
If asking questions makes the difference in someone either using there
iDevice or giving up on it then please ask away.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Simon Wong
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

I am new to this phone, I can I not ask questions?

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-04-11, at 10:44 AM, "Fred Olver"  wrote:


Maybe they come to you because that way they don't have to do it

themselves.



- Original Message - From: "Patti Johnson"

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I do have friends who hardly will ever try to figure things out on
their own because they don't have the confidence in themselves, they
are afraid of doing something wrong.
I am not saying there is  right or wrong in any of this; I just think
those that ask should be respected and answered even if we ourselves
wish they would do their own work.
I have done a lot of stuff for people that I think they should be
able to do for themselves, yet over and over again when they need
help they come to me for it and I think to myself, they need to learn
this on their own but if they won't because they are fearful of
making a mistake, then I have to help them.
Patti






-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Patty, if the information is readily available, why ask the list?
Aren't we supposed to be able to do some things on our own or have we
all become so lazy that rather than find out ourselves that we must
bring it to the list because we can't take the time to find out for

ourselves?

- Original Message -
From: "Patti Johnson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to
this  list; and she said if  you're told to do your research all the
time then  what's the point of the list?
I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many
times the  question is asked.
Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't.
Or  their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any
email  list,  because we don't know where the person writing in is
coming from.  Just my  humble opinion. And actually if you don't
want to answer that person on  list  write to them privately, which
would take away from the high traffic.
Patti





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating
that somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the
information at their fingertips to find the information themselves
rather than ask on such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of
two messages in a row which asked the question of two different
app's, what does it do.

Fred
- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a
row that asked the same question, "What does it do -
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do???



Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and
condescending myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I
doubt many of the targeted audience is going to have the patience
to read such an email let alone follow the tips tucked in it. I
also wonder how much time was spent writing and reading such a
message as opposed to just hitting the delete key when someone asks
a question you can't or don't want to answer. I find the one liners
like "What does

this app do?" or "How much does it cost?"

to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the
moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such
behavior, I don't think it's going to change human behavior much,
and I think it

Re: Is "Talking Goggles" the Correct App?

[Fred Olver]

Yes, talking is that app. It actually has two modes, "Picture" and "video"

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Gallik" 

To: "List viPhone" 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:06 PM
Subject: Is "Talking Goggles" the Correct App?


There was quite a thread on an app that folks were able to use in "Video 
Mode" to recognize all sorts of things but I've forgotten the name of the 
app.  Is "Talking Goggles" what I want?



Holland's Boy, Bill
- "What's right is what's left if you do everything wrong."
- Robin Williams
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Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

The app store isn't the internet, let's get real here. If one can access 
this list they ought to be able, to at the very least access the app store. 
If they can't, then... Oh, gee wiz, another possibility for the welcome 
message, refer them to a book or books which explain how to use their phone, 
what? such resources exist? And what about applevis, what, another resource? 
And it's even accessible with that dinasaur of a computer? Wow, what a 
break? I certainly don't mind questions, I just don't happen to care for the 
ones which answers are easily found. Maybe there is a need for an 
announcements list for app information, I'd start it, but then probably no 
one would subscribe because they need help subscribing.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Neal Ewers" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



Another thought.

Were I just beginning with computers or smart phones, I may not know 
enough

to know what I don't know or where to look for it. So, I will assume that
when people ask questions that I think they can find on their own, that 
this

is the case. Now, people will sometimes take advantage of this and ask
because it's just easier. But I can't tell which is which. So, I will try 
to

respect the fact that people who ask simple questions are people who don't
quite know enough to know where to look at this point. I may be fooled 
more

than once, but I have helped more than I have hindered.

And here is another thought. I think many would agree that it is often 
more

educational to ask someone who knows than to spend hours searching the
internet and reading reviews and other pages that may well have 
conflicting
data. So, even if I think someone should be able to find the answer on 
their
own, I will have to assume that they are asking for human input rather 
than

whatever input they may get on line.

Having said that, I still think giving people alternatives for where to 
look

for things in addition to helping them is a good idea. But I hope I can
always be open to helping no matter how silly I think the request, because
to them, it is not silly at all.

Also, remember that there are people on this list whose first language is
not English. They may not be as precise at asking questions as some, and
they may not be as good as others in perusing the web for their answers.

So, someone please take me to task if I am ever insulting to a question
asker. I may be brief, because I don't have a lot of time. Today I do and
the number of messages I have written to this list is much larger than 
most

days, but many of us are quite busy. However, that is no excuse for being
dismissive of a persons quest to learn.

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Debby, it's not about asking questions. It's about doing something or not
doing something that one could do themselves. Let's say you want to take 
off

your shoe, and it is tied, well, you of course untie the shoe, right? Well
if you want to find out about an app, maybe you are going to buy it, or if
it is free, just put it on your phone, you search for it in the app store,
don't you? Well, I saw two successive messages on two different apps which
asked the question, what does it do, when they could have just as easily
looked to see for themselves. I certainly don't mind answering questions
about apps either, however the obvious causes me frustration, you wouldn't
ask me to untie your shoe, you would untie it yourself. If a person can
untie their shoe than they ought to be able to search for an app. Like 
last
week, I had forgotten how to delete an app from my phone, something I 
hadn't

done in about six months, what did I do? I didn't ask the list, which I
guess I could have, I looked up the information in the book entitled 
Getting

started with the iPhone. It helped refresh my memory as to what to do
regarding other things and I was indeed able to find the information on my
own, and I didn't clutter up the list with a question when I could easily
find the information on my own. I don't say, don't ask, I say don't ask if
you have the information at your fingertips.

Fred
- Original Message -
From: "Debbie Worstman" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I just want to say that I do not post to the list often, but I have gotten
some very good information from reading please don't let this make you
fearful of asking questions.
If asking questions makes the difference in someone either using there
iDevice or giving up on it then please ask away.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@goog

Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

Dan, I don't know what you are doing, but my time spent in the app store has 
taught me that if I tap on the area of the screen which relates to the 
particular topic like utilities or games that the information shows up, now 
if I could just  figure out how to get past the 75th entry???


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Beaver GMail" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: What do they do???



Hi,

As usual we are again beating a horse with too many opinions. (smile)

All I know is "YAHOO".  I have learned something out of this discussion 
that

I didn't know before.

I do not understand why I did not find the description info before when
navigating the info screens but now I can find it very easily and I am now 
a

more informed customer/user.  (smile again)

Thanks for this tip to whomever.
Dan Beaver

--
From: "Neal Ewers" 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 5:35 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: What do they do???

Another thought.

Were I just beginning with computers or smart phones, I may not know 
enough

to know what I don't know or where to look for it. So, I will assume that
when people ask questions that I think they can find on their own, that 
this

is the case. Now, people will sometimes take advantage of this and ask
because it's just easier. But I can't tell which is which. So, I will try 
to

respect the fact that people who ask simple questions are people who don't
quite know enough to know where to look at this point. I may be fooled 
more

than once, but I have helped more than I have hindered.

And here is another thought. I think many would agree that it is often 
more

educational to ask someone who knows than to spend hours searching the
internet and reading reviews and other pages that may well have 
conflicting
data. So, even if I think someone should be able to find the answer on 
their
own, I will have to assume that they are asking for human input rather 
than

whatever input they may get on line.

Having said that, I still think giving people alternatives for where to 
look

for things in addition to helping them is a good idea. But I hope I can
always be open to helping no matter how silly I think the request, because
to them, it is not silly at all.

Also, remember that there are people on this list whose first language is
not English. They may not be as precise at asking questions as some, and
they may not be as good as others in perusing the web for their answers.

So, someone please take me to task if I am ever insulting to a question
asker. I may be brief, because I don't have a lot of time. Today I do and
the number of messages I have written to this list is much larger than 
most

days, but many of us are quite busy. However, that is no excuse for being
dismissive of a persons quest to learn.

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Debby, it's not about asking questions. It's about doing something or not
doing something that one could do themselves. Let's say you want to take 
off

your shoe, and it is tied, well, you of course untie the shoe, right? Well
if you want to find out about an app, maybe you are going to buy it, or if
it is free, just put it on your phone, you search for it in the app store,
don't you? Well, I saw two successive messages on two different apps which
asked the question, what does it do, when they could have just as easily
looked to see for themselves. I certainly don't mind answering questions
about apps either, however the obvious causes me frustration, you wouldn't
ask me to untie your shoe, you would untie it yourself. If a person can
untie their shoe than they ought to be able to search for an app. Like 
last
week, I had forgotten how to delete an app from my phone, something I 
hadn't

done in about six months, what did I do? I didn't ask the list, which I
guess I could have, I looked up the information in the book entitled 
Getting

started with the iPhone. It helped refresh my memory as to what to do
regarding other things and I was indeed able to find the information on my
own, and I didn't clutter up the list with a question when I could easily
find the information on my own. I don't say, don't ask, I say don't ask if
you have the information at your fingertips.

Fred
- Original Message -
From: "Debbie Worstman" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I just want to say that I do not post to the list often, but I have gotten
some very good information from reading please don't let this make you
fearful of asking questions.
If asking questions makes the difference in someone either using there

Re: What do they do???

[Fred Olver]

I look forward to the day when I can get an Apple machine, thank you. And 
just so you know, my first computer was an Apple machine.


Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren Simmons" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: What do they do???


Fred, I wouldn't be so fixed on such beliefs. At some point you may 
purchase a Mac or Windows machine with an unfamiliar OS, and you will find 
someone with that subject matter expertise will remember your strong 
convictions and hold you to the beliefs you've conveyed below.


LS

- Original Message - 
From: "Fred Olver" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: What do they do???


The app store isn't the internet, let's get real here. If one can access 
this list they ought to be able, to at the very least access the app 
store. If they can't, then... Oh, gee wiz, another possibility for the 
welcome message, refer them to a book or books which explain how to use 
their phone, what? such resources exist? And what about applevis, what, 
another resource? And it's even accessible with that dinasaur of a 
computer? Wow, what a break? I certainly don't mind questions, I just 
don't happen to care for the ones which answers are easily found. Maybe 
there is a need for an announcements list for app information, I'd start 
it, but then probably no one would subscribe because they need help 
subscribing.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Neal Ewers" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



Another thought.

Were I just beginning with computers or smart phones, I may not know 
enough
to know what I don't know or where to look for it. So, I will assume 
that
when people ask questions that I think they can find on their own, that 
this

is the case. Now, people will sometimes take advantage of this and ask
because it's just easier. But I can't tell which is which. So, I will 
try to
respect the fact that people who ask simple questions are people who 
don't
quite know enough to know where to look at this point. I may be fooled 
more

than once, but I have helped more than I have hindered.

And here is another thought. I think many would agree that it is often 
more

educational to ask someone who knows than to spend hours searching the
internet and reading reviews and other pages that may well have 
conflicting
data. So, even if I think someone should be able to find the answer on 
their
own, I will have to assume that they are asking for human input rather 
than

whatever input they may get on line.

Having said that, I still think giving people alternatives for where to 
look

for things in addition to helping them is a good idea. But I hope I can
always be open to helping no matter how silly I think the request, 
because

to them, it is not silly at all.

Also, remember that there are people on this list whose first language 
is

not English. They may not be as precise at asking questions as some, and
they may not be as good as others in perusing the web for their answers.

So, someone please take me to task if I am ever insulting to a question
asker. I may be brief, because I don't have a lot of time. Today I do 
and
the number of messages I have written to this list is much larger than 
most
days, but many of us are quite busy. However, that is no excuse for 
being

dismissive of a persons quest to learn.

Neal


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Debby, it's not about asking questions. It's about doing something or 
not
doing something that one could do themselves. Let's say you want to take 
off
your shoe, and it is tied, well, you of course untie the shoe, right? 
Well
if you want to find out about an app, maybe you are going to buy it, or 
if
it is free, just put it on your phone, you search for it in the app 
store,
don't you? Well, I saw two successive messages on two different apps 
which

asked the question, what does it do, when they could have just as easily
looked to see for themselves. I certainly don't mind answering questions
about apps either, however the obvious causes me frustration, you 
wouldn't

ask me to untie your shoe, you would untie it yourself. If a person can
untie their shoe than they ought to be able to search for an app. Like 
last
week, I had forgotten how to delete an app from my phone, something I 
hadn't

done in about six months, what did I do? I didn't ask the list, which I
guess I could have, I looked up the information in the book entitled 
Getting

started with the iPhone. It helped refresh my memory as to what to do
regarding other things and I was indeed able to find the information on 
my
own, and I

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Re: What do they do

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Maybe, inspite of your protests, it's a valid topic. All I did is suggest 
that folks attempt to find information and most of you want to turn it in to 
an international crisis, it's really not that big a deal. You have an 
iPhone, There are a multitude of resources out there for you, I saw two 
posts which asked "What does it, meaning particular app's  do" in succession 
and I just couldn't help myself. I did not suggest that people ought not ask 
questions, I didn't suggest that asking questions was wrong, I only 
suggested that people take the time to see if they can find out the needed 
information with the resources which are available, to them, before asking.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren Simmons" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do


Just out of curiosity. Is there any reason why this thread has been 
allowed to continue as long as it has?


LS

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Re: What do they do

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Yes, the ever-present "delete" key, even when messages are of a nature that 
they need not exist.


Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren Simmons" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do


The question has been answered--ad nauseam , and now we're left with 
repetitive messages such as yours. ..But I know I can very easily solve 
this little problem using my email client's features of which I will do so 
right now. (Smile).


LS

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do


Maybe, inspite of your protests, it's a valid topic. All I did is suggest 
that folks attempt to find information and most of you want to turn it in 
to an international crisis, it's really not that big a deal. You have an 
iPhone, There are a multitude of resources out there for you, I saw two 
posts which asked "What does it, meaning particular app's  do" in 
succession and I just couldn't help myself. I did not suggest that people 
ought not ask questions, I didn't suggest that asking questions was 
wrong, I only suggested that people take the time to see if they can find 
out the needed information with the resources which are available, to 
them, before asking.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren Simmons" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do


Just out of curiosity. Is there any reason why this thread has been 
allowed to continue as long as it has?


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Re: apps recommendation

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You might go to the website http://www.applevis.com  there you will find 
recommendations of all kinds of apps in many categories including the ones you 
have mentioned a need for.

Fred Olver
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  Subject: apps recommendation


  hello, 
  can you please recommend me accessible applications for the following tasks:
  1. GPS application that contains the maps of the middle east and north africa.
  2. an app to recognize collors and currencies.
  3. good mp3 sound recorder, and wish if you can recommend free one.
  4. internet radio program.
  5. Advanced word editing program.
  thank you in advance.

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Re: Help with Podcasting

[Fred Olver]

Just a question, how can this be off-topic if it assists individuals who 
might wish to provide information about technology or other issues which may 
be of interest to individuals who subscribe to this list?


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Help with Podcasting


In the past, I've suggested people not take discussions off list that I
thought would be helpful to keep on list, but in this case, I wonder if
this topic isn't off topic for the list and wouldn't be more appropriate
to be taken off list or taken to another list.

On 04/15/2013 12:46 PM, Thom wrote:

Ditto. post it to the list, please.

-Original Message-
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
*On Behalf Of *Michael Malver
*Sent:* Monday, April 15, 2013 12:23 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Help with Podcasting

I truly hope that whoever writes to you rights on list. I also would
love to have this information, in case I decide to podcast in the
future.

On Apr 15, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Lisa Larges" mailto:llar...@tamfs.org>> wrote:


Hi All,

I�m helping a friend who wants to create podcasts and post them to
iTunes. She already has the audio content in an mp3 file. Would
any of you fabulous podcasters be willing to write me off list to
give me some guidance on how to create a feed and submit it to 
iTunes?


Much appreciated.

Lisa

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Re: I just got my Standscan and put it together. I would like to know what the names of the 2 apps are to download to use with the standscan?

[Fred Olver]

The names of the two app's mentioned in conjunction with the standscan for more 
than a month, now are text grabber and Prizmo.
  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 4:35 PM
  Subject: I just got my Standscan and put it together. I would like to know 
what the names of the 2 apps are to download to use with the standscan?


  Hi all. I just got my Standscan and put it together. it took me only a few 
seconds to put it together. I have it so that the glossy sides of the box are 
on the out side so I hope that is the right way to put it together. I am very 
impressed I must say. I just am wondering what is the name of the 2 apps that 
you use with this standscan? I know one is prizmo but I forget what the name of 
the other was. many thanks. from Mich. 
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Re: new game for you.

[Fred Olver]

I do not believe so, check out the manufacturer which choice of games.

Fred Olver
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  From: Maria & Joe Chapman 
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  Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:57 AM
  Subject: Re: new game for you.


  wait did they say osx?  hmmm has anyone tried it on the mac?




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Re: New PC using JAWS - how do I download iTunes?

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You could always go to the i-tunes site, I believe the address is 
http://www.itunes.com
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: New PC using JAWS - how do I download iTunes?



www.ninite.com/itunes


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On 18/04/2013 02:48, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Hi,

I now remember the problems I had figuring out how to download iTunes to 
my PC




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Re: Verizon app

[Fred Olver]

Chris, I do not know the answer to your question, however I found that by 
typing Pound data or Pound MIN that I could get all the information I felt I 
needed, thus eliminating the need for the app to take up a space on my 
phone. Just saying.


Fred Olver

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Subject: Verizon app



Hello all,
Since I am a verizon customer, I use the My Verizon app to keep check on 
my data usage and manage my verizon account.
The app is totally accessible, but I noticed that it had an update this 
last week, and it mentioned a new splash screen in the whats new.

So I did not know if this might affect the accessibility.
Before updating, I wanted to check to see if there is anyone already using 
the updated version of the app to see if it changed any of the 
accessibility.
So anyone already using the updated version of this app, please could you 
let me know if the accessibility has changed?


Thanks,

Chris Chaffin

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Re: StandScan Pro is broken.

[Fred Olver]

Actually, folks, I have asked a friend of mine a former Industrial Arts 
teacher in a public school district to take a look at my soon-to-be here 
standscan and see what improvements we could make in it and what the cost 
would be to do so.


I doubt if there's a patent on the product.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "John Diakogeorgiou" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: StandScan Pro is broken.



I have one of the newer versions and am not very impressed. For one
thing  the wire on the 9v batter pack looks like its going to come off
very quickly. Also the cardboard is not very thick. If this is
improved the older ones must have been quite flimsy. It does hold
together quite well though but one of the sides was a bit bent. I
think the concept is good but better materials would be a good idea.

On 4/21/13, Annie Skov Nielsen  wrote:

Hi.

Well I can not get the lid on, when I have inserted the battery, I have
given up, but I could test that it works by holding the battery in place 
in

the holder.

Warm regards Annie.
On Apr 21, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Ron Pelletier 
wrote:


Hi,

I think that battery holder is a real pain to put the battery in.  I 
much

prefer the battery holders where the cap is on a wire that you can press
evenly onto the battery and then slip the battery in.  This one is very
difficult to line up properly.

Ron & Danvers
 and

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Annie Skov Nielsen
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: StandScan Pro is broken.

Hi Mich.

What about assembling it again with a battery in it, that is my new
problem.

Annie.
On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:55 PM, Mich  wrote:


hi anny and all. I was right you need to first un screw the screw in
order
to get the cover off it wont just slideoff unless you do this. I just 
did

it. from Mich.

- Original Message - From: "Sandratomkins"

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: StandScan Pro is broken.


Hi Annie,

 I have mine in front of me,
 If you hold it with the cable away from you and can feel the screw
thing

underneath, just use your thumb to press on the top of the box near to
the
end nearest you, and slide, the whole top slides and comes off. You can
then
just slide it back on again when the battery is in place.


 Mind you, I find it tricky getting the battery connected with this

holder, plus, I don't think this is your problem, I am sure it is the
connection to the lights themselves and so, using the battery rather 
than

the mains will not make any difference. probably, if you connect the
mains
adaptor, and just juggle the cabe a bit the lights will come on, but 
even

if
they do and you can detect them with either a light detector or by the
heat,
there is no guarantee that they will stay on. Sorry about this.


 Sandy.

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Apr 2013, at 03:26, Mich  wrote:


Hi I think there is a screw that you need to un screw to oapen up the

battery holder. from Mich.

- Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen"

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: StandScan Pro is broken.



Hi again.

How do you open up the battery holder for the 9V battery?

Best regards Annie.
On Apr 20, 2013, at 3:12 AM, "Gary Bowers"  wrote:


Today, Harry told me that newer versions of SS Pro have thicker
cardboard and better magnetic connections. I don't knowhow long the

newer versions

have been shipping, but he said that all new orders will   include
the
sturdier versions.

GB

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: StandScan Pro is broken.

Hi all.

Ok I should have bought an extra standscan pro at once when I got
mine.
Today I needed to scan some barcodes, but it did not work. I am
sure that the connection to the lights is broken. Just to tell you
all, that StandScan Pro is a great box, but I think it can easily
broke. I think I will order a new StandScan pro, but only because
it is so great for me as a blind person, and it helps me a lot
especially with barcodes, but I will also say, that StandScan pro
must

last longer than 10 days.


Best regards Annie.

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Re: Talking Goggles

[Fred Olver]

You need to set it for video, and although I can't tell you how, it's right 
there.

Fred Olver

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  To: 'VIAPHONE' 
  Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:52 AM
  Subject: Talking Goggles


  I am working with this app and not getting any results.  I have the following 
settings:

   

  Flash Button:  When I touch (but not tap) the top left button VO says 
"Flash." It is my understanding that this means the flash is on.

   

  Camera Copy 1 Button:  When I touch (but not tap) it VO says, "stop." This 
leads me to believe that some kind of  photo action is going on? I don't know 
what to call it since it's not really taking a picture; there is no sound of a 
clicking shutter. 

   

  Button at bottom right: if I touch (but not tap) it VO says, "still camera," 
which leads me to believe that the video Camera is activated and tapping it 
will change it to Still Camera. Is that correct?

   

  The only time I hear a shutter clicking is when I toggle the bottom right 
button to "still camera, which converts the middle button from "stop" to "take 
picture." But it's my understanding that to get the app to ID things a photo is 
not necessary.   What am I either misunderstanding or doing wrong?

   

  also, what is the purpose of the "record" option? What would I want to record?

   

  Sandy

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Re: viphone faq - Was Re: Tat Tap See

[Fred Olver]

Try checking your mute button on the left side of your phone, just above the 
volume comtrols.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "bj colt" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: viphone faq - Was Re: Tat Tap See



Hi Raul,

Can you post your e mail please?

At the moment I have a simple problem but a frustrating one.lol Somehow I 
have switched off the sounds on my iphone. For example when I pressed the 
button at the bottom of the screen it made a specific sound. That sound is 
no longer there. When I get an text the sound is no longer there. How do I 
turn those sounds on again.


Live long and prosper, John



-Original Message- 
From: Raul A. Gallegos

Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: viphone faq - Was Re: Tat Tap See

Hi Lauren and everyone else reading this. I've been thinking of putting
together an faq list on one of my sites which would contain commonly
asked questions of iPhones, iOS, or maybe even specific apps. I've asked
this of list members before, but only 1 or 2 people wrote in with
suggestions. The thing is, if I put up the list, I don't want to be the
one who comes up with all the questions and answers. I'm willing to host
that FAQ on my site and get things set up, but I don't want to have to
update things when they change since there are many who have more time
with this.

So I ask again to those list members who might want to help contribute,
send me privately a question, and answer together in the same email, and
I'll start putting together a list of things. This is in no way meant to
take away from what is already out there, meaning places like
Applevis.com or other resources.

If you do send me questions and answers to hopefully be included, be
sure to write viphone faq in the subject line.

Don't send them to the list either. Thanks.

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On 4/22/2013 5:55 AM, Lauren Simmons wrote:

A better way of researching a question is by compiling a pool of go-to
resources and you will not have to ask the list at all. This will
probably eliminate many, many of the questions asked here on almost a
weekly cycle. Luckily for IOS there's lots of information out there.

Also, if you are going to give a presentation on the iPhone, why would
you not want to conduct lots of research whether podcast or otherwise.
Who knows what else you may not know or not even know to consider in
regards to other apps or features you will be presenting. In other
words, though you may not like it, information of all kinds is always
great information.

LS


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Re: Re:

[Fred Olver]

You can play the game alone or by yourself??? What a hoot. Thanks.

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Liz and Sammie 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:33 AM
  Subject: Re:


  If an IPhone game is whant you are looking for, I recommend a game called Fun 
Blast.  It is a trivia game that is free, and you can play alone or by yourself.

  Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie




  Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator 


  http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
  Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone

  On Apr 23, 2013, at 7:26 AM, "Catherine Mahony"  
wrote:


Hi gamers



Looking for a fun and addictive game to play with my 11-year-old niece. I’m 
in my early 40’s. She can see and I can’t. We’re looking for something that is 
multiplayer, or that we can take turns in  or solve together.



We like word games, music, problem-solving (only good at the easy ones).

We like adventure games – more realism than fantasy. We are into frotz, but 
are stuck in Child’s Play.



Any advice appreciated.



Thanks.



Aunty Cath




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Re: confirm my understanding?

[Fred Olver]

Yes, it does Ray.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Ray T. Mahorney" 

To: 
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Subject: confirm my understanding?


The phone arrives tomorrow.  As I understand it from ground 0 VO can be 
brought up by punching the
home button three times in rapid succession?  Also does VO remain active 
if I turn the phone off and

turn it back on again?


Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: searching the app store

[Fred Olver]

Ray, may I suggest a book to you? It is called "Getting started with the 
iPhone by Anna Dresner and Dean Martineau. It is available in several 
formats from the National Braille Press. I suggest this book because if you 
had read it before you received your phone or had it when your phone 
arrived, many, many, many, many of the multitude of questions which you have 
posed to the list in the last three weeks or so could have been answered 
without having to send what I figure to be somewhere near 200 messages to 
the list. I am not suggesting that you not ask questions, only that you give 
some thought to making use of a resource which is easily available to you 
and save the difficult questions for the list.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Ray T. Mahorney" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:21 PM
Subject: searching the app store


What I have tried to do is use the ITunes application to search for the 
apps I am looking for
without success to find them I ended up going to either itunes.com or the 
providers website to find
the app.  I suspect this is neither a simple or smart way to do this How 
is it done if it can be

done through the app?


Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: searching the app store

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SAsk for your current question, there ought to be an icon on your phone 
labeled appstore. Double-tapping on this icon will take you directly to the 
app store where you can purchase necessary apps or look up those of interest 
to you.


Fred Olver
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To: 
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Subject: searching the app store


What I have tried to do is use the ITunes application to search for the 
apps I am looking for
without success to find them I ended up going to either itunes.com or the 
providers website to find
the app.  I suspect this is neither a simple or smart way to do this How 
is it done if it can be

done through the app?


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Re: Games For Older User

[Fred Olver]

Vo Starter might be a good place to start.

Fred Olver
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  Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 4:00 PM
  Subject: Games For Older User


  Hi all,

   

  I'm currently teaching an individual who is well into his seventies how to 
use an iPad.  The eventual goal is to move him to an iPhone.  His wife asked if 
there are any simple games he might play on the iPad that would help him 
practice his gestures and continue to learn how to review an entire screen by 
dragging his finger around it.  If you can think of any such games, I would 
greatly appreciate hearing about them.  Thanks.

   

  Take care,

  Ed Przybylek

   

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Re: Moderator Note -was- Re: searching the app store

[Fred Olver]

I have blocked any frustrating messages so I will no longer be receiving 
them.


Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "Cara Quinn" 

To: 
Cc: "Raul Gallegos" 
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:51 AM
Subject: Moderator Note -was- Re: searching the app store


Hi Fred and list,

First off, kudos to you, Fred for recommending Anna and Dean's book! This is 
great!


However, several points off for style. ;)

If you're going to offer assistance, please do it without the attitude.

this goes for everyone.

Yes, I know there are going to be repeat questions or notes you'd consider 
novice questions that you'd rather not read. This is fine. It's not fine to 
make someone feel lousy for asking them, no matter how much smarter you 
might decide to consider yourself than the questioner. The fact is that 
responses like these show the opposite.


So please refrain from this sort of thing on the list.

If you would rather not hear the same question again or would rather not 
answer such a question, then simply use your delete key and let someone else 
answer the question. At this point, there are many people on this list who 
are willing and able to answer any questions that may come up. If one person 
is tired of answering questions then someone else will be there to do so. 
This way, everyone can take a breather and all the questions get addressed. 
:)


Please keep the list polite…

Remember, people who might be lurking actually learn from reading responses. 
They also learn what is acceptable from the tone of these responses and the 
tone of the threads such responses generate. So make your responses 
positive.


Frustration is normal. If you have issues then either write me or Raul 
off-list or address your concerns with the poster directly off-list as well. 
This list is a positive and welcoming place. Please keep it that way.


Thank you all!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Fred Olver  wrote:

Ray, may I suggest a book to you? It is called "Getting started with the 
iPhone by Anna Dresner and Dean Martineau. It is available in several 
formats from the National Braille Press. I suggest this book because if you 
had read it before you received your phone or had it when your phone 
arrived, many, many, many, many of the multitude of questions which you have 
posed to the list in the last three weeks or so could have been answered 
without having to send what I figure to be somewhere near 200 messages to 
the list. I am not suggesting that you not ask questions, only that you give 
some thought to making use of a resource which is easily available to you 
and save the difficult questions for the list.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - From: "Ray T. Mahorney" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:21 PM
Subject: searching the app store


What I have tried to do is use the ITunes application to search for the 
apps I am looking for
without success to find them I ended up going to either itunes.com or the 
providers website to find
the app.  I suspect this is neither a simple or smart way to do this How 
is it done if it can be

done through the app?


Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: vo starter

[Fred Olver]

I believe you are wanting Vo Starter.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Byrne" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 6:12 AM
Subject: vo starter


What is the name I need to use to find Vo Starter in the ap store?  On my 
iPad I searched for 'vo', and got nothing.

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Re: Organizing apps into folders on the iPhone five question

[Fred Olver]

Depends which phone you have. The iPhone 5 allows for 16 app's in each 
folder Both the 4 and 4S offer 12.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Beth G" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: Organizing apps into folders on the iPhone five question


Thank you both for your help and feedback. Is there a limit to how many apps 
can be in one folder? Thanks


Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2013, at 1:36 PM, "Lauren Simmons"  
wrote:


In terms of top or bottom, I find it doesn't really make a difference 
where you initially place your finger if your technique is correct. It 
appears that getting a good "running start" helps. That is, when wanting 
to move an icon from one screen to another, after selectin the icon to be 
move, begin by placing your finger at right or left edge of device then 
swiftly drag to the opposite edge then stop at the edge until you hear the 
"moving icon to page X" prompt. Make sure you do not lift your finger off 
of screen until you are informed that the page has changed. You can now 
drag the icon around to its semi-permanent home. Don't forget to press the 
Home button to take the "highlight" off of the icon you just moved.


LS

- Original Message - From: "Beth G" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: Organizing apps into folders on the iPhone five question


Thanks Anna. I've noticed that this works best when at the bottom left her 
bottom right-hand corner of the screen. Thanks Again.

Beth

Sent from my iPhone

On May 5, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:


Hi Beth,

If you start moving an app and then move your finger all the way to the 
left edge of the screen and hold it there, you will move to previous 
pages. If you slide it all the way to the right edge of the screen and 
hold it there, you'll move to higher-numbered pages.


HTH,
Anna



On May 5, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Beth G  wrote:


Hi list,
Is there and easy way to move apps into folders? I know how to move my 
finger on the screen, and move them that way. Is there an easy way to 
consistently locate the pies for page change button?

Thanks Beth

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Prizmo 2 is out.

[Fred Olver]

I also have not seen an update on my iPhone here in the states, yet.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Prizmo 2 is out.



I have not seen anything in the US store.
Blind Square just had an update, but that is it.
Maybe it will turn up later tonight or tomorrow.
Did they add an easier way to do more than one page?
Or an easier way to retake a picture if the first scan did not work?
Thanks,


Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

On May 6, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen 
 wrote:



Hi all.

Prizmo 2 is out.

You can now add pictures of more pages recognize them and export them to 
another app.


Prizmo 2 is a free update.

Cheers Annie.

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Fw: [Chapter-presidents] For imediate release

[Fred Olver]

- Original Message - 
From: VaShaun Jones 
To: NFB Chapter Presidents discussion list 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: [Chapter-presidents] For imediate release


Leaders,


Can you send this out to anyone you think would benefit ? 


See below:


Get the book and get a chance to win an iPad Mini. The long awaited first 
release under the publishing arm of Fedora Outlier LLC is ready for pre 
release. Get the Old Hat Guide for iPhone Accessibility today as a pre-order 
and enter for a chance to win an iPad Mini.


It's very simple to preorder and register. Just visit the Old Hat Guide 
website, found at www.oldhatguide.com,  and click on the pre-registration 
button, fill out the form and pay for your copy of the first multi-media book 
created by the blind--for the blind. You can also visit the preorder area 
directly via: http://oldhatguide.com/preorder.


On Tuesday April 2nd at 8:00PM EST, we'll be holding the first ever 
blindness-oriented Twitter chat using the hash tag, #AccessChat. We'll have a 
discussion with Fedora Outlier's own, Brie Rummery, where we talk about the 
release of our first book and announce the winner of the giveaway. More details 
can be found at the #AccessChat page on the Fedora Outlier website, or by 
visiting: http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/accesschat.


We're so grateful for your support and look forward to celebrating the release 
of the book with you! Remember, for better than excellent consulting, teaching 
and support on Apples accessible products, look no further than Fedora Outlier 
LLC!





Fedora Outlier LLC
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Ph: 678.404.2635
URL: fedoraoutlier.com
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Re: Responding to a Siri question

[Fred Olver]

My experience is that usually there is a button or buttons on the screen 
which you can activate to get the information you want.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Donald L. Roberts" 

To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:39 PM
Subject: Responding to a Siri question


I realize that the subject line appears backwards, but let me explain. 
Sometimes, after pressing the home button until it dings, I will then ask 
Siri a question, after which Siri responds in a way which requires a 
response from me.  Am I then to just say yes, or no, or whatever is 
appropriate? Or, am I to again press the home button before responding?


Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero products, and remote CSUN access!

[Fred Olver]

Candy, if you look in the email which eluded to this app, there were a couple 
websites listed which may turn out to be of some use for you, I believe at one 
of them you can sign up for yet to come information about the app which is 
reported to be forth-coming.

Fred Olver

  - Original Message - 
  From: Candie Stiles 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero 
products, and remote CSUN access!


  I am very interested in this app. Thank you for making it available. Please 
send me a link to the test flight when it is ready.
  Candie


  On Feb 26, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


I wasn't  sure if this had been seen on this list: 
  From: senderogps-bou...@freelists.org 
[mailto:senderogps-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kim Casey
  Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 4:07 PM
  To: 'Kim Casey'
  Subject: Announcing the Seeing Eye GPS app free preview, new 2013 Sendero 
products, and remote CSUN access!



  Sendero Group has been designing accessible GPS since 1994. Almost 20 
years of user feedback and feature requests are behind the design of all 
Sendero GPS products. The accessible features in Seeing Eye GPS are only the 
beginning of what is yet to come as users help in evolving this first fully 
accessible GPS product for the iPhone. To participate in the preview, visit us 
at CSUN Booth 521 or reply to this email and we will send you a link for a Test 
Flight as soon as it is available.



  About Seeing Eye GPS



  Getting around independently is a function of good mobility tools like a 
guide dog or cane and good orientation tools like accessible GPS. Two pioneers 
in their fields, The Seeing Eye and Sendero Group have teamed up to provide a 
fully accessible turn-by-turn GPS iPhone app with all the normal navigation 
features plus features unique to blind users. 



  * Instead of multiple layers of menus, the 3 important navigation 
elements are on the lower portion of every screen, Route, POIs and Location.

  * At intersections, the street name and your direction of travel are 
announced.

  * Intersections are described like 4-way with the clock face orientation 
of the streets.

  * There are 3 choices for POI data and 2 map sources.

  * Directions are configured appropriately for Pedestrian and vehicle 
routes including heads up when approaching a turn, the turn now indication, 
continue straight and where the subsequent turn is located.  

  * When the user wanders off the route, it is automatically recalculated 
and updated turn information is announced.

  * Point your phone in a given direction to hear what is nearby with the 
LookAround Wand.

  * Nearby Points of interest and intersections are automatically announced.

  For more information go to 
http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm



  New 2013 Sendero products



  Announcing Sendero PC GPS 2013, adds GPS functionality to Sendero PC Maps 
and works on Windows laptops, Tablets, and ultrabooks.

  New 2013 maps and POIs for Sendero GPS, Sense Navigation, and Mobile Geo 
plus much faster POI searches



  Not going to CSUN – No problem!



  Thanks to the folks at Accessible World Tek Talk, you can join in the fun 
and listen into the following presentations.  

  February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People 
Finder App

  March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3:00 PM, Showing the Seeing Eye GPS iPhone App

  Just go to: 
http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2 at the 
scheduled session time.  If you are a first-time user of the Talking 
Communities online conferencing software, there is a small, safe software 
program that you need to download and then run. Visit 
http://accessibleworld.org/audio-tc-faq-page for information on how to get your 
computer set up for the session.



  For more information on all of these items, go to 
http://www.SenderoGroup.com or call Sendero toll free at 1-888-757-6810

  Don't forget to sign up for our SenderoGPS Twitter account to hear 
play-by-play comments as the new iPhone app is rolled out!



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new audio game for i-devices $13.99 U.S.

[Fred Olver]

I heard this item is selling for 10 pounds 99 overseas.
See below.

Fred Olver
Hello.
here is a new iOS audio only game.
here is a description of app.

App name: The Inquisitor Audiogame Adventure
Developer: TIconBLU srl
Description:
"The Inquisitor Audiogame Adventure"
Will of steel, heart of stone, intelligence as sharp as a knife and 
wisdom deep as oblivion.
The inquisitor is called to investigate an obscure case, beyond heresy, 
that reveals a new face of Evil. He must tackle many arduous tasks. He 
must make many painful choices. He must take on terrible creatures. But 
his burning determination will overcome the Plague and his worst nightmares.

==
- Dubbing in english, latin and italian
- Original character and story (really a bad guy...)
- Rich 3D audio environments (best in home theatre 5.1)
- From 6 to 8 hours of gameplay
- Beautiful and well-acted dialogues
- More than 21.000 words dubbed for every language!

==
We apologise in advance for having to keep the price so high, but 
unfortunately we had to dub loads more text (including that where the 
lead character describes the locations he's in) and having worked 
really hard to ensure playability for all, with long, complex testing 
phases and loads of effort in all, the production phase was much 
costlier than expected. But we strongly believe that many video games 
can and must be made accessible to the blind and the sight impaired, 
and so we decided to take this risk. This is our passion and our 
mission, and we feel that this kind of game (i.e. adventure games) is 
PERFECT for playing in audiogame mode. So please understand the reason 
why we had to set this price, and help us when you can to spread the 
word about this adventure, in all senses, that we have embarked on 
together. Thanks for your understanding, and thanks again to all those 
who decide to purchase the game.
We fully intend to continue along this road and produce other games. If 
we succeed in selling enough copies to break even we will have the 
economic sustainability to continue to produce videogrames that are 
truly accessible to all. And not only Medieval or adventure games!

Yours for eternity,
Ivan Venturi (creator, script writer, designer and producer of the 
Eymerich project)

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Re: App recommendations for a somewhat unusual purpose?

[Fred Olver]

It has been suggested before, but why not try using one of the scanning apps 
like prizmo or text dective to do a scan of your monitor. Failing that you 
could always take a pic of the screne and ask someone to decifer it for you.

Fred Olver
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  From: James 
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  Cc: stone_tr...@sbcglobal.net 
  Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:53 PM
  Subject: Re: App recommendations for a somewhat unusual purpose?


  I wish I had a pet eye person. Wouldn't that just make all our lives a 
million times easier?

  Actually, I'm asking because I don't have ready and on-demand access to 
someone with working eyes. Otherwise, yeah, Facetime or something would do the 
trick just fine.

  On Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:26:23 PM UTC-5, Mark BurningHawk wrote:
I wonder if you could just video-call a pet eye person and ask them what's 
on the screen, just by pointing the phone at the monitor. 


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Re: Use NaturalReader On Your iPhone And Get Rid Of The Awful Robot Voice [iOS Tips]

[Fred Olver]

Will this application read epub books?

I'm attempting to load one right now, but no read?

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Use NaturalReader On Your iPhone And Get Rid Of The Awful Robot 
Voice [iOS Tips]




To change the voice being used, just double tap a book to open it, such
as the "Welcome to Natural Reader" book that comes with the app. Now you
can double tap on the Settings button at the top of the screen and then
double tap the speaker to change the speaking voice that will be used to
read the text.

On 28/02/13 20:09, Beverly wrote:

Very interesting, however, I never did find the different voices.



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*From:* Traci <mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:31 PM
*Subject:* Use NaturalReader On Your iPhone And Get Rid Of The Awful
Robot Voice [iOS Tips]

Thought this would Interest some folks.



http://cultofmac.com.feedsportal.com/c/33797/f/606249/s/28f4237c/l/0L0Scultofmac0N0C2172550Cuse0Enaturalreader0Eon0Eyour0Eiphone0Eand0Eget0Erid0Eof0Ethe0Eawful0Erobot0Evoice0Eios0Etips0C/story01.htm



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speaking of magic jack

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I never found it particularly easy to use. I have gone with googlevoice.

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Re: speaking of magic jack

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I couldn't get to the answer function quickly enough, I felt like I needed to 
keeep it open at all times in order to be able to use it.

Fred Olver


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  Subject: Re: speaking of magic jack


  What issues did you have?  I use it quite easily, even send and receive faxes.

  On Mar 2, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:


I never found it particularly easy to use. I have gone with googlevoice.

    Fred Olver


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Re: speaking of magic jack

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On the I-phone.

Fred
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  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:58 AM
  Subject: RE: speaking of magic jack


  Is this on the iPhone or with the computer?

   

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Fred Olver
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  I couldn't get to the answer function quickly enough, I felt like I needed to 
keeep it open at all times in order to be able to use it.

   

  Fred Olver

   

   

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From: Kliphton A M 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:36 AM

Subject: Re: speaking of magic jack

 

What issues did you have?  I use it quite easily, even send and receive 
faxes.

On Mar 2, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:





I never found it particularly easy to use. I have gone with googlevoice.

 

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Re: voice dream and bookshare.

[Fred Olver]

Christina, I put a book in my drop box folder and accessed it from the app 
although I'm sure there are other ways to get to the books. The app suggests 
that you can also retrieve books from your computer and the cloud.

Fred Olver

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kristeen Hughes 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:59 AM
  Subject: Re: voice dream and bookshare.


  If I want to copy books from my computer to my iPhone, where would I put them 
and how would I go about this? Which files of a bookshare book do the app need? 
Can it read the braille files from NLS? And, finally, can it find files that 
have been downloaded with Read2Go?


  Kristeen



  On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


No one can tell you whether you "should" get an app, but if you want a very 
good app for listening to books, and other files with a choice of several high 
quality voices, and want to support a developer who is committed to making an 
app that is fully VoiceOver accessible, then you may want to get the app.
Here is the link to the paid version in the app store where you can read 
all about it and read some reviews:


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-dream-reader-text-to/id496177674?mt=8

Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

On Mar 1, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Aaron Linson  wrote:


  What is Voice Dream and why should I get it?

  Aaron Linson
  IOS App Accessibility Advocate
  Once an Eagle
  Always an Eagle


  On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:41 PM, "Paul and Paula Jordan" 
 wrote:


Hi.  I got this information from the list earlier in the week and 
thought, it’s so simple I’ll surely remember it.  However, I didn’t and can’t 
find the email.
 I have successfully logged onto bookshare using voice dream.  
After I got the message authentication succeeded, I thought I could go back to 
the home screen and go to the search prompt and search for a book.  Obviously, 
either I’m remembering incorrectly or I’m doing something else wrong.  Also, is 
there a way to log out of bookshare when you’re done.
.  I also can’t find the book PRIDE AND PREJUDICE that’s supposed to be 
available.  Any help would be appreciated.  Since I wasn’t able to find the 
info on applevis, and I obviously don’t remember quite correctly, I’ll make 
sure to put your response in a place where I can refer back to it when needed.  
Thanks very much.
God bless!
Paula and Babe


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Re: speaking of magic jack

[Fred Olver]

Yes, I agree, I hate that the one most important item in googlevoice can not be 
accessed from their website by a person using speech technology.

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:10 AM
  Subject: RE: speaking of magic jack


  I find Talkatone even easier to use than Google Voice, though it takes a bit 
of setup and I needed sighted help to change the setting on the Google Voice 
web site, but it is a great app to use with a Google Voice number.

   

  Richard

   

   


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  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:01 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: speaking of magic jack

   

  On the I-phone.

   

  Fred

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From: Kliphton 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:58 AM

Subject: RE: speaking of magic jack

 

Is this on the iPhone or with the computer?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: speaking of magic jack

 

I couldn't get to the answer function quickly enough, I felt like I needed 
to keeep it open at all times in order to be able to use it.

 

    Fred Olver

 

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Kliphton A M 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:36 AM

  Subject: Re: speaking of magic jack

   

  What issues did you have?  I use it quite easily, even send and receive 
faxes.

  On Mar 2, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:

   

  I never found it particularly easy to use. I have gone with googlevoice.

   

  Fred Olver

   

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Re: Accessing Google Voice - Was Re: speaking of magic jack

[Fred Olver]

Hi all,

Well, one thing that I found out is that you can't answer your googlevoice 
number it is only a transfer point. I bought an Ivo tech gadget to use with 
googlevoice thinking I'd hook my home phone to it and be able to answer the 
phone, not true. Luckily for me I had also set up my cell phone to accept 
calls. Also, the settings page for google voice is not a text link on the 
google voice page, so now I have this Ivo tech piece of equipment which I 
apparently have no need for and a "home connection" box from Verizon which I 
no longer need. Any takers?


Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 7:21 PM
Subject: Accessing Google Voice - Was Re: speaking of magic jack


Hi, what Google Voice portion are you and Richard talking about? Perhaps I 
can give pointers.


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On 3/2/2013 10:46 AM, Fred Olver wrote:

Yes, I agree, I hate that the one most important item in googlevoice can
not be accessed from their website by a person using speech technology.
Fred Olver

- Original Message -
*From:* Richard Turner <mailto:richard.turne...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:10 AM
*Subject:* RE: speaking of magic jack

I find Talkatone even easier to use than Google Voice, though it
takes a bit of setup and I needed sighted help to change the setting
on the Google Voice web site, but it is a great app to use with a
Google Voice number.

Richard



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Fred Olver
*Sent:* Saturday, March 02, 2013 8:01 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: speaking of magic jack

On the I-phone.

Fred

- Original Message -

*From:*Kliphton <mailto:kliph...@gmail.com>

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

*Sent:*Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:58 AM

*Subject:*RE: speaking of magic jack

Is this on the iPhone or with the computer?

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
    [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Fred Olver
*Sent:* Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:42 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: speaking of magic jack

I couldn't get to the answer function quickly enough, I felt
like I needed to keeep it open at all times in order to be able
to use it.

Fred Olver

- Original Message -

*From:*Kliphton A M <mailto:kliph...@gmail.com>

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>


*Sent:*Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:36 AM

*Subject:*Re: speaking of magic jack

What issues did you have?  I use it quite easily, even send
and receive faxes.

On Mar 2, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Fred Olver
mailto:goodfo...@charter.net>> wrote:

I never found it particularly easy to use. I have gone with
googlevoice.

Fred Olver

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Re: voice dream and bookshare.

[Fred Olver]

Mary Ellen,

Why is your subject line about voice dream and you asking about something 
concerning another app People have said over and over in the last week that 
you can use Voice Dream with bookshare, so you highjack the subject and go off 
on your own tangent??? Why???

Fred Olver

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Ellen Sanchez 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 11:53 AM
  Subject: RE: voice dream and bookshare.


  If I want to read a book is read to go the app that I have to purchase to 
read text or audio books which one might one recommend thanks.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fred Olver
  Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:02 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: voice dream and bookshare.

   

  Christina, I put a book in my drop box folder and accessed it from the app 
although I'm sure there are other ways to get to the books. The app suggests 
that you can also retrieve books from your computer and the cloud.

   

  Fred Olver

   

- Original Message - 

From: Kristeen Hughes 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:59 AM

Subject: Re: voice dream and bookshare.

 

If I want to copy books from my computer to my iPhone, where would I put 
them and how would I go about this? Which files of a bookshare book do the app 
need? Can it read the braille files from NLS? And, finally, can it find files 
that have been downloaded with Read2Go? 

 

Kristeen

 

On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:





No one can tell you whether you "should" get an app, but if you want a very 
good app for listening to books, and other files with a choice of several high 
quality voices, and want to support a developer who is committed to making an 
app that is fully VoiceOver accessible, then you may want to get the app.

Here is the link to the paid version in the app store where you can read 
all about it and read some reviews:





https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-dream-reader-text-to/id496177674?mt=8


Richard 

(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)


On Mar 1, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Aaron Linson  wrote:

  What is Voice Dream and why should I get it?

  Aaron Linson

  IOS App Accessibility Advocate
  Once an Eagle

  Always an Eagle

   

  On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:41 PM, "Paul and Paula Jordan" 
 wrote:





  Hi.  I got this information from the list earlier in the week and 
thought, it's so simple I'll surely remember it.  However, I didn't and can't 
find the email.

   I have successfully logged onto bookshare using voice dream.  After 
I got the message authentication succeeded, I thought I could go back to the 
home screen and go to the search prompt and search for a book.  Obviously, 
either I'm remembering incorrectly or I'm doing something else wrong.  Also, is 
there a way to log out of bookshare when you're done.

  .  I also can't find the book PRIDE AND PREJUDICE that's supposed to be 
available.  Any help would be appreciated.  Since I wasn't able to find the 
info on applevis, and I obviously don't remember quite correctly, I'll make 
sure to put your response in a place where I can refer back to it when needed.  
Thanks very much.

  God bless!

  Paula and Babe

   

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Re: Fast Mall

[Fred Olver]

Ah, but Hope, one can smell Starbucks, or hear it, it is very sensorily 
friendly.

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Hope Paulos 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 2:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Fast Mall


  Hi there! I just downloaded the app, and it doesn't seem to be very VO 
Friendly. For instance, there are many unlabeled buttons. Also, the way the 
application gives directions would be exiting Sears, turn left and walk until 
you see Starbucks. This isn't very helpful obviously for people who are 
unfamiliar with the mall if you cannot see the signs. It might be a good idea 
to write developers to see if they would be willing to make it more blind 
friendly.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 4, 2013, at 2:57 PM, "Debbie Downey"  wrote:


Hi,

Has anyone tried Fast Mall to see if it is accessible with Voiceover?

It's supposed to give turn by turn navigation in the mall without using 
WiFi or GPS.

Deb

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Re: google voice

[Fred Olver]

How does one get to the settings page? My experience is that that particular 
link is not to be found using speech?


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: google voice


Hi there. If you're interested perhaps we can connect on Skype on the 
computer, and I can help you walk through this. Perhaps it would help. In 
any case, you can write me off list to pursue this further if you're 
interested. Also, the Skype ID I use for the computer is raul_gallegos.


On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:04 AM, "MamaPeach"  wrote:

Yeah, I have looked around there and once I choose settings, I can't do 
much else. I usually have to get sighted assistance. Thanks though, I will 
see if I can get that working again.


-Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: google voice

Go to http://voice.google.com and sign in. Then choose settings. There are 
different categories and one of them is calls. You can turn it on or off 
from there. The website can be a bit tricky to use if you are not used to 
it, I can easily do it using Window Eyes, so I imagine other screen 
readers should work if you use another one.


On Mar 6, 2013, at 6:52 AM, "MamaPeach"  wrote:

How do I enable it? I had it when I first set up the OBi100, but all that 
happens now is that caller's are asked to state their name, but it 
doesn't tell me anything when I answer a call.


-Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: google voice

Hi there. That is the call monitoring feature. It is enabled by default, 
but depending on your situation some people turn it off. For example, the 
Google voice number that I use as a home phone has that feature turned 
off. This way when people call the house, the phones ringing like normal 
and people answer like normal. When this feature is enabled, people who 
are not in your Google contact list will be prompted to speak their name. 
When your phone rings, you will then be given the chance to take the call 
by pressing one, or sending the call to Boyceville by pressing too. Some 
people find this okay while others do not like it.


On Mar 6, 2013, at 5:48 AM, "MamaPeach"  wrote:

Do you have it to where when you answer a call it will tell you who is 
calling and then you can hit buttons to either reject call, send the 
call to voice mail, answer the call, etc?? I am asking this because 
people tell me that they are asked for their name and then it will 
attempt to connect them, but when I answer, it never tells me who is 
calling. I am guessing I have something configure incorrectly but I 
can't figure out what. Any ideas?


-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: google voice

Another feature I like about Google voice is that it will perform voice
recognition on any messages left in your voice mail and send you a text
or email with the transcription in it. It isn't perfect, but it's a
quick way to let you know if you need to worry about the message or not.

As others have mentioned, when someone calls my Google Voice number, my
cell phone, land line and office phones will all ring. I can decide
which phone I want to use to take the call.

I don't use these features myself, but you can decide if you'll answer a
call or send it to voice mail. You can even listen to someone leaving
the voice mail and decide to pick it up. You can also pick up the call
on one phone, say your land line phone, and then pick it up on your cell
phone as well, such as if you're going out the door during the call.

On 05/03/13 19:38, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hello there. You will probably get other answers and so far I have read 
two other messages on this. It is not exactly a VoIP number, instead it 
is a virtual number. This means that for the most part if you have it 
forwarding to your cell phone number, when you make and receive calls 
to or from your Google voice number it will still use your cell phone 
minutes. You can of course use apps like talkatone to make data voice 
calls. One advantage of Google voice is that if you use it to text 
message, the messages are On the Google voice website and are virtually 
stored forever. Or at least as long as you want them to. In any case, a 
lot longer and easier to manage than the messages app on the phone. 
Another advantage is that if you get an incoming call through your 
Google voice number, you can record the phone call. This will play a 
message that all parties will here so they know they are being 
recorded. This comes in handy and of course you can later retrieve it 
from the Google voice web
site. There are many more advantages and I could go on forever 

Re: google voice

[Fred Olver]

Thanks, Shawn,

I'm a bit confused, it sounds like others are able to answer their 
googlevoice number, and my home phone doesn't even ring, am I missing 
something? Also I looked in the settings menu, but can't find phone 
settings, only stuff for mailbox and messages etc, what am I missing?


Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "Sean Paul" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: google voice



This one is though. https://www.google.com/voice/m
- Original Message - 
From: "Fred Olver" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 08:25
Subject: Re: google voice


How does one get to the settings page? My experience is that that 
particular link is not to be found using speech?


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: google voice


Hi there. If you're interested perhaps we can connect on Skype on the 
computer, and I can help you walk through this. Perhaps it would help. In 
any case, you can write me off list to pursue this further if you're 
interested. Also, the Skype ID I use for the computer is raul_gallegos.


On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:04 AM, "MamaPeach"  wrote:

Yeah, I have looked around there and once I choose settings, I can't do 
much else. I usually have to get sighted assistance. Thanks though, I 
will see if I can get that working again.


-Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: google voice

Go to http://voice.google.com and sign in. Then choose settings. There 
are different categories and one of them is calls. You can turn it on or 
off from there. The website can be a bit tricky to use if you are not 
used to it, I can easily do it using Window Eyes, so I imagine other 
screen readers should work if you use another one.


On Mar 6, 2013, at 6:52 AM, "MamaPeach"  wrote:

How do I enable it? I had it when I first set up the OBi100, but all 
that happens now is that caller's are asked to state their name, but it 
doesn't tell me anything when I answer a call.


-Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: google voice

Hi there. That is the call monitoring feature. It is enabled by 
default, but depending on your situation some people turn it off. For 
example, the Google voice number that I use as a home phone has that 
feature turned off. This way when people call the house, the phones 
ringing like normal and people answer like normal. When this feature is 
enabled, people who are not in your Google contact list will be 
prompted to speak their name. When your phone rings, you will then be 
given the chance to take the call by pressing one, or sending the call 
to Boyceville by pressing too. Some people find this okay while others 
do not like it.


On Mar 6, 2013, at 5:48 AM, "MamaPeach"  wrote:

Do you have it to where when you answer a call it will tell you who is 
calling and then you can hit buttons to either reject call, send the 
call to voice mail, answer the call, etc?? I am asking this because 
people tell me that they are asked for their name and then it will 
attempt to connect them, but when I answer, it never tells me who is 
calling. I am guessing I have something configure incorrectly but I 
can't figure out what. Any ideas?


-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: google voice

Another feature I like about Google voice is that it will perform 
voice
recognition on any messages left in your voice mail and send you a 
text

or email with the transcription in it. It isn't perfect, but it's a
quick way to let you know if you need to worry about the message or 
not.


As others have mentioned, when someone calls my Google Voice number, 
my

cell phone, land line and office phones will all ring. I can decide
which phone I want to use to take the call.

I don't use these features myself, but you can decide if you'll answer 
a

call or send it to voice mail. You can even listen to someone leaving
the voice mail and decide to pick it up. You can also pick up the call
on one phone, say your land line phone, and then pick it up on your 
cell

phone as well, such as if you're going out the door during the call.

On 05/03/13 19:38, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hello there. You will probably get other answers and so far I have 
read two other messages on this. It is not exactly a VoIP number, 
instead it is a virtual number. This means that for the most part if 
you have it forwarding to your cell phone number, when you make and 
receive calls to or from your Google voice number it will still use 
your cell phone minutes. You can of course use apps like talkatone to 
make data voice 

Re: Voice Dream Reader 2.72

[Fred Olver]

If you look at the various voices, if you slide your finger to the right you 
will find if there is one a dollar amount for the one you want to use. if 
there is no dollar amount than it is free.


Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "Mary Ellen Sanchez" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: Voice Dream Reader 2.72


Hello I purchased voice dream but do I need to buy the voices as well or 
do

they come with it? so what would I be able to read with voice dream? Any
help would be greatly appreciated thank you.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brett
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader 2.72

Hi,
I agree great job indeed. I am off to to give another five star review. 
What

a fantastic responsive author.

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

On 05/03/2013, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner 
wrote:


Voice Dream update is in the app store. Version 2.72 gives VoiceOver
access to the text. It takes a three finger swipe up to turn the 
page/screen

with VoiceOver.

I left a fresh 5 star review in the app store.
It just keeps getting better.
I have not tried it with a braille display as yet.
Great job Winston!

Richard
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Re: the bluefire reader

[Fred Olver]

Patty, I don't know anything about blue fire reader, however having purchased 
voice ddream a couple weeks ago, I can tell you that it will play epub formated 
books as well as several other formats. I know, because I was sent a Monopoly 
strategy book last fall and am reading it, how great.

Fred Olver

  - Original Message - 
  From: Patti Johnson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:23 PM
  Subject: the bluefire reader


  I signed up with EChristian and their books are adobe drm or epub, and I 
understand that they are accessible for the iphone with either kobo or bluefire 
reader.
  I had heard of Kobo but not the Bluefire Reader.
  Has anybody had experience with this, to know if it would be useable with 
voice over, is it another reader in itself that wouldn't work for us, I am just 
wondering before I invest in any books from EChristian.
  Thanks,
  Patti




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using magic jack with iphone?

[Fred Olver]

I re-loaded my magic jack software on my phone and think it is working, 
question is, does it take away from my monthly allotment of minutes on my 
iphone? Also, I have it on my computer and if the Iphone rang from the app, the 
house phone did not, is there a way to get one or the other to ring, or both?

Fred Olver

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Fw: Prizmo with StandScan Pro

[Fred Olver]

For those who have questions I would refer you to the website which link was 
just posted a couple hours ago. Get a life, people, if you have questions, why 
not go to the link provided for the item rather than bogging down the list with 
questions which are available from the sellers website.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: Anne Robertson 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 2:15 AM
Subject: Re: Prizmo with StandScan Pro


Hello Julian,


Here's the link for the StandScan Pro:
http://standscan.com/StandScan/index.php/product/standscan.html



It took nearly three weeks to arrive, but it's great.


Cheers,


Anne


On 9 Mar 2013, at 07:44, Julian  wrote:


  Hi,

  Can you provide a link or information on where I can purchase this
  device? Thanks in advance.

  Julian



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Re: NLS Books

[Fred Olver]

It was put in earlier this week, Tuesday or wWednesday.

Fred
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 11:30 AM
  Subject: RE: NLS Books


  Interesting, I just went through the Blind Bargains audio index page and 
didn't find anything like that.

  The link I sent earlier is an interview with Judith Dixon from NLS.

   

  Richard

   


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  Subject: Re: NLS Books

   

  Blind Bargains also has an interview with Connie Dixon and she demonstrates 
many of the features that will be available on the app when it comes out.

  On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

  Here is a podcast that will answer your question:

  
http://blindaccessjournal.com/2013/02/csun-it-wont-be-hard-to-access-bard-with-the-upcoming-ios-app-from-nls/

  HTH,

  Richard

   

   


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  Does anyone know if there has been any progress in developing an app to read 
NLS books on the iPhone? Thanks.

   

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Re: book share and voice dream questions.

[Fred Olver]

Mary Ellen, if you read down through the list of voices and slide your finger 
to the right of each one in the list, you will see whether or not you need to 
purchase the voice. Someone mentioned yesterday that the app comes with at 
least one voice, and having used it myself, I find the voice, that of a female 
to be very adequate. You can use this app in order to access bookshare 
materials. There is no need to purchase readtogo.

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Ellen Sanchez 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 7:26 AM
  Subject: book share and voice dream questions.


  Hello I purchased voice dream. Do I need to purchase a voice in order to read 
book share books? I have the book share books in a daisy text format? I also 
wanted t know is voice dream or read to go the best app to purchase to read 
book share books on the I phone or I pod thanks. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated thank you. 

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Re: device to stop hum when connecting PC to stereo

[Fred Olver]

Thank you, Rob, I don't know if I'm the one who asked the question, but it 
is one I have wondered about for some time. Now if I could just get my set 
of old speakers to work...


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Rob" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 8:34 PM
Subject: device to stop hum when connecting PC to stereo



Hi,
Someone recently asked about connecting a PC to the stereo and getting a 
hum.

After searching online,
I found a device that will help.
I am going to pick it up at my local Radio Shack tomorrow.
ground loop isolater
item # 270-054
$19.99

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
"God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"

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link for Voicedream podcast

[Fred Olver]

The link had a couple spaces, probably because it was on two lines, anyway here 
it is.

http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/walk-through-voice-dream-text-speech

On another topic, how does one save podcasts on applevis, they seem to have 
changed the way to do this?

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Re: Announcing: All-new Bluetooth Speaker availeble now!

[Fred Olver]

What is the response of this speaker, how many watts, the general 
specifications???


Fred Olver

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From: "SpeedDots" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:20 AM
Subject: RE: Announcing: All-new Bluetooth Speaker availeble now!


Hi:
Of course, we will ship to other countries.
We've already shipped one to France, one to Germany, and one to australia.
also, this speaker has been sold in the UK for quite some time, as it is
manufactured there.
We are both pleased and honored to be able to offer it to the US market.
Obviously no one but list moderators can decide if this is off topic or on
topic, but as we are a list comprised of individuals who use iOS devices,
(via Bluetooth,) it stands to reason that there might be some interest in a
bluetooth speaker to pair with your device; to further your enjoyment of
listening to music, podcasts, and the like, from your iPhone, iPod, iPad,
etc.
Also, if you are interested in the speaker, and shipping from the UK will be
more affordable for you, check out their UK reseller.
Here's the direct link for your convenience:
http://comproom.secured-area.co.uk/acatalog/Audio_hardware__accessible_Radio
s_etc_.html

Regards,

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Søren Jensen
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 6:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Announcing: All-new Bluetooth Speaker availeble now!

Hi.

Since they don't say anything about country restrictions, I assume they'll
sell this product world wide. there are many people from other countries
world wide on this list.
I wander if this is off-topic though, since it's not totally iPhone or
VOiceover related. I'll take a look at the speaker though, and I might place
an ordre if it sounds nice.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 10/03/2013 kl. 23.23 skrev Chris H :


Hello all
This sounds interesting. Do you kknow if and when it will be available in

the Uk?

Chris.


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On 10/03/2013 21:18, SpeedDots wrote:

Announcing the Beatbox  portable wireless bluetooth speaker!

Small size: big sound; at an afordable price.
The BeatBox bluetooth speaker will fill your room with rich sound, and

not

break the bank!

Dont have a device with bluetooth? No problem, this speaker also supports
line in so you can connect all portable electronics including note

takers,

mp3 players, book players, or anything else with a headphone or line out
jack.

No longer do you have to spend high dollar amounts, to have a portable
Bluetooth solution for home or travel.
In order to help you decide if this speaker is right for you, we have put
together an audio demonstration; showing the Beatbox in use in a variety

of

settings.
In adition, we have included some audio samples of the speaker alongside

the

small version of the Jambox Bluetooth Speaker, by Jawbone.

We invite you to take a listen to our audio demonstration

The direct download link for the audio is:
http://www.speeddots.com/beatbox/AudioDemo.mp3

In adition to the audio demonstration, we have put together an accessible
users guide.  to read the users guide, visit
http://www.speeddots.com/beatbox/AccessibleManual.html

If you like what you see and hear, and would like to purchase, please

visit:

http://www.SpeedDots.com

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Re: link for Voicedream podcast

[Fred Olver]

No there is not, only one to get to the page. I can find the link for the 
podcast however when I attempt to use my Applications or Alt key to find a way 
to download the page, I am taken to a menu list for Internet Explorer. 

Here's the link again for the page.  
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/walk-through-voice-dream-text-speech

Fred Olver
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  From: anita 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:27 PM
  Subject: Re: link for Voicedream podcast


  Is there a URL tod download the podcast too?
  Thanks,
  Anita
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From: Fred Olver 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:55 AM
Subject: link for Voicedream podcast


The link had a couple spaces, probably because it was on two lines, anyway 
here it is.


http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/walk-through-voice-dream-text-speech

On another topic, how does one save podcasts on applevis, they seem to have 
changed the way to do this?

    Fred Olver


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voice dream podcast.

[Fred Olver]

You can not download the podcast from the page noted in previous messages, only 
listen to it, from there. 
In order to download this podcast one needs to go to the "podcasts" page on 
http://www.applevis.com  Next you need to check the boxes which relate to the 
podcast including "interview" "review" etc. Next in my case I hit the space bar 
on apply and the page switches to a view of all the items which fit the 
criteria you have selected. Tab down the page until you come to 
AppleVisPodcast329.mp3
. At that point for me as a Windows user I open my Applications menu and arrow 
down to "save target as" then hit return and arrow down to "save" hit the space 
bar, if you are satisfied that the file will go where you want it to go and you 
will be alerted when it is done being saved.

Fred Olver

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Re: voice dream question

[Fred Olver]

Look it up in the app store. Or look it up in the groups' archives.

Fred Olver
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: voice dream question



What is Voice /dream?


On 3/13/13, denise avant  wrote:

Hi all,
I understand that with the latest software update, you can use voiceover 
to
read materials in voice dream instead of the built in voices. i assume 
you

can use a Braille display as well. With that, I have two questions. Do I
have to enable any particular setting to use voiceover? and is there a 
find

command for finding text? thanks.

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Re: [MSB-Alumni] At last!!! Iphone 5 update!!! from National Braille press

[Fred Olver]

Andy, if you're talking about the publication, it is National Braille Press. 
Their website where you can order the book is http://www.nbp.org

If that doesn't work for you, let me know and maybe I can be of assistance, say 
if you put the funds in my paypal account, I could get the book for you.

Fred
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 8:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [MSB-Alumni] At last!!! Iphone 5 update!!! from National Braille 
press


  Hi Fred,  so is it possible  to get an international  phone number  for the 
NFB Please.
  Andy S

  From: Fred Olver 
  Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 12:22 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Fw: [MSB-Alumni] At last!!! Iphone 5 update!!! from National Braille 
press


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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:03 PM
  Subject: [MSB-Alumni] At last!!! Iphone 5 update!!! from National Braille 
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Fw: NLS mobile applications

[Fred Olver]

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:49 PM
Subject: NLS mobile applications





NLS mobile applications

NLS is in the process of developing applications to enable the download and 
reading of its books using commercial mobile devices. Two versions are being 
developed independently—one for Apple iOS devices (iPhone, iPod touch, and 
iPad) and one for Google Android devices.  

Some features are outlined below. 

The applications will:
·play NLS digital talking books (ANSI/NISO Z39.96-2002)
·communicate with Bluetooth-connected refreshable braille displays for 
reading NLS braille (BRF) files 
·download books directly from BARD 
·accept books loaded from a connected computer (e.g., iTunes files)
·be free, but require a BARD account to be activated and to download 
books
·  employ the accessibility features native to the devices, such as 
Talkback and Brailleback on Android and Voiceover on iOS

The iOS application is at the internal testing stage. The NLS Engineering 
Section is evaluating this working version without all of its final features. 
NLS plans to have the Beta version, with corrections and enhanced 
functionality, available for selected Beta testers to evaluate in several 
weeks. The iOS version is expected to be available to patrons in late spring.

The Android application will only be available on Android 4.2 “Jelly Bean” and 
later versions because of poor accessibility support on earlier versions. The 
application is expected to be available to patrons on the Android market in 
late summer. 


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Re: Attention: Standscan Pro discount code and bonus

[Fred Olver]

I find it interesting that they would offer a less expensive, less effective 
accessory at no charge yet offer the one which works best at regular price.


Just my two cents.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:27 AM
Subject: RE: Attention: Standscan Pro discount code and bonus



Hi Rex,

Simply go to www.Standscan.com, there you can read about the Standscan and
the accessories they offer as well as a few other products they also sell.

Make sure you select the Standscan Pro and remember the discount code is
VIPHONE.

As Raul pointed out, by using the discount code you get the Standscan Pro
including the 9 Volt Battery holder at a 10% discount and in addition to
that you get the 12 Volt wall adapter at no charge.

Standscan also offers a second battery holder which uses 8 Double A
batteries. At 1.5 Volt each, 8 AA batteries will give you the full 12 
Volts

which will give you the brightest light from the LED's, using a 9 Volt
battery will be a little less efficient and according to Sandy's 
experience
may not give you always as good a scan result. The 12 Volt Battery Holder 
is
an accessory and is $4.95 and you also get the 10% discount if you order 
it

together with the actual Standscan. This means for approx.. $31.50 you get
it all, Standscan Pro including 9 Volt holder, 12 Volt adapter and 12 Volt
battery holder. Normally the Standscan Pro alone is $29.95 and the adapter
and 12 Volt holder are extras at $4.95 each. I believe their shipping from
Hong Kong is about $8 so altogether it will cost you about $40.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of rex wisdom
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Attention: Standscan Pro discount code and bonus

I have missed part of this thred.  How can I order this?

Thank you.

GDB Retro & Rex

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention: Standscan Pro discount code and bonus

Hi. You are correct that the holder is already included. There was a 
slight

error in the offer and what they actually mean is that the adapter is now
included with the offer. I wrote a separate message in a separate thread
from Harry which clarifies this. I hope this makes sense to you guys.

On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:24 AM, John Diakogeorgiou 
wrote:


Thanks to the person who took the inniciative to do this. I tried to
order the product over the weekend and their web site could not
connect me to PayPal. I was able to place an order on their site
today. I'm not sure why they are including the 9v battery pack for
free since it already came with it that way. I am looking forward to
receiving it. It almost makes the Optacon obsolete.

On 3/15/13, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

Hello List,

A Viphone member who prefers to remain anonymous recently thought to
ask if Standscan would consider offering Viphone members a small
incentive/discount since Harry expressed to that person that he was
happy their product was of such practical use for visually impaired
iPhone users. The Standscan was not developed with the blind users in
mind, but Standscan is a good example of a company who is responsive
and interested in making their product available.

The list member thought it wouldn't hurt to inquire and Harry replied
promptly and said that they had in fact already been considering such
a discount, but were just a bit hesitant because a few people already
purchased the Standscan and they were concerned how people who paid
full price would react if they now offered a discount. Said list
member suggested that in his opinion there could be a few people who
might be upset, but that on the other hand this happens all the time
in daily life. You might buy a box of laundry soap for $10 only to
find it's on sale 2 days later for $6.99. Furthermore, we are talking
about a $30 product here and they are not offering a 50% discount and
it is only because a few list members contacted them and gave them
such positive feedback.

The anonymous list member has asked me or Cara Quinn to post the
following offer to the list: anybody who orders a Standscan Pro using
the discount "Viphone" during the check-out will get a 10% discount
and a free 9 Volt battery holder. This means you get the $29.95
Standscan for approx. $27 + a free 9 Volt Battery Holder which
normally I think is $4.95. The 10% discount in fact applies to any
item you order from their website. Once again, use '"VIPHONE" without
the quotes of course as a discount code in the appropriate discount
code field during the check-out process.

Below is Harry's email:

Original Message-
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Re: Attention: Standscan Pro discount code and bonus

[Fred Olver]

I am so excited to get this box which I will order tomorrow. I will be 
attempting to use it to read mail for starters and hopefully other things as 
I become more familiar with it.


Thanks for the idea of using it for bar codes, I may attempt to use it for 
garment tags, too. If others have ideas which work please share them with 
the list, I just thought of another, reading playing cards for marking a 
deck.


, there must be a way to guarantee being able to find the bar codes. Very 
good idea.


Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "Sandratomkins" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: Attention: Standscan Pro discount code and bonus


Fred,

   I think you will find that the need for 12 volts is something more 
useful to us than to the average user of the box. I think that many people 
will use this for shooting images of stuff, like small items for eBay etc. 
Which reminds me, I have ahd some success using a barcode app and the box 
to, say, roll a tin across the bottom, slowly, and thus find the barcode! 
Worth playing with when people get their new toys!


   Sandy.

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 Mar 2013, at 10:23, "Fred Olver"  wrote:

I find it interesting that they would offer a less expensive, less 
effective accessory at no charge yet offer the one which works best at 
regular price.


Just my two cents.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:27 AM
Subject: RE: Attention: Standscan Pro discount code and bonus



Hi Rex,

Simply go to www.Standscan.com, there you can read about the Standscan 
and
the accessories they offer as well as a few other products they also 
sell.


Make sure you select the Standscan Pro and remember the discount code is
VIPHONE.

As Raul pointed out, by using the discount code you get the Standscan Pro
including the 9 Volt Battery holder at a 10% discount and in addition to
that you get the 12 Volt wall adapter at no charge.

Standscan also offers a second battery holder which uses 8 Double A
batteries. At 1.5 Volt each, 8 AA batteries will give you the full 12 
Volts

which will give you the brightest light from the LED's, using a 9 Volt
battery will be a little less efficient and according to Sandy's 
experience
may not give you always as good a scan result. The 12 Volt Battery Holder 
is
an accessory and is $4.95 and you also get the 10% discount if you order 
it
together with the actual Standscan. This means for approx.. $31.50 you 
get
it all, Standscan Pro including 9 Volt holder, 12 Volt adapter and 12 
Volt
battery holder. Normally the Standscan Pro alone is $29.95 and the 
adapter
and 12 Volt holder are extras at $4.95 each. I believe their shipping 
from

Hong Kong is about $8 so altogether it will cost you about $40.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of rex wisdom
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Attention: Standscan Pro discount code and bonus

I have missed part of this thred.  How can I order this?

Thank you.

GDB Retro & Rex

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Attention: Standscan Pro discount code and bonus

Hi. You are correct that the holder is already included. There was a 
slight

error in the offer and what they actually mean is that the adapter is now
included with the offer. I wrote a separate message in a separate thread
from Harry which clarifies this. I hope this makes sense to you guys.

On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:24 AM, John Diakogeorgiou 
wrote:


Thanks to the person who took the inniciative to do this. I tried to
order the product over the weekend and their web site could not
connect me to PayPal. I was able to place an order on their site
today. I'm not sure why they are including the 9v battery pack for
free since it already came with it that way. I am looking forward to
receiving it. It almost makes the Optacon obsolete.

On 3/15/13, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

Hello List,

A Viphone member who prefers to remain anonymous recently thought to
ask if Standscan would consider offering Viphone members a small
incentive/discount since Harry expressed to that person that he was
happy their product was of such practical use for visually impaired
iPhone users. The Standscan was not developed with the blind users in
mind, but Standscan is a good example of a company who is responsive
and interested in making their product available.

The list member thought it wouldn't hurt to inquire and Harry replied
promptly and said that they had in fact already been considering such
a discount, but were just a bit hesitant because a few people already
purchased the Standscan and they were concerned how people who paid

Re: Standscan promotion expires March 31

[Fred Olver]

The code is viphone

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Gallik 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:31 AM
  Subject: Re: Standscan promotion expires March 31


  Pardon, but what is that code again?

  
  Holland's Person, Bill
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Re: King of Dragon Pass iOS game on sale for $6.99

[Fred Olver]

Ester, were you attempting to make a joke?

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Esther" 

To: "VIPhone" 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: King of Dragon Pass iOS game on sale for $6.99


Whoops, left off the URL link to King of Dragon Pass in the App Store:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/king-of-dragon-pass/id335545504?mt=8

And the link to the AppleVis app deal posting with all the links to
tutorials, reviews, podcasts, etc. is:
http://www.applevis.com/apps/deals/ios-apps-dropped-price/king-dragon-pass

Sorry, I find trying to post links at the AppleVis site without
triggering off the spam filter rejection of posts really nerve-
racking.

HTH. Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 18, 8:46 am, Esther  wrote:

Hello All,

The award winning King of Dragon Pass game just went on sale for
$6.99, reduced from $9.99, in celebration of selling over 30,000
copies, and will be offered at this price for 3 days. (i think that
means up until March 21, 2013). You can read the App Deal posting at
the AppleVis site, which contains links to all the reviews, tutorials,
and podcasts about this role playing game at that site. If you want an
RTF version of the early tutorial that Anouk posted about this game on
this list, you can find it at John Panarese's Mac for the Blind web
site documentation page:http://macfortheblind.com/documentation
Look under the "Tutorials and Other Documentation" heading.

Those of you who are familiar with the game may get a kick out of
reading the blog post announcing this sale:

http://kingofdragonpass.blogspot.com/2013/03/30k-sales.html

You can read it in Safari Reader (by double tapping the "Reader"
button to the right of the URL address, or by pressing Command-Shift -
r on a Mac).

HTH. Cheers,

Esther,


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Re: King of Dragon Pass iOS game on sale for $6.99

[Fred Olver]

Very cool, Ester.

Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "Esther" 

To: "VIPhone" 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: King of Dragon Pass iOS game on sale for $6.99


Hi Fred,

No, not a joke.  I corrected the AppleVis App Deal posting to state
the regular list price is $9.99, as stated in my first viphone post.
There was a small joke in referring to the K-O-D blog post
announcement, which uses gaming code style for the announcement and
for the hypothetical reactions (rendered in the style of the game.) Of
course, if you ignore the opportunity (response 5), you won't
understand why the clan members shake their heads and mutter about the
foolish decisions their leaders are making, or why the mood score
drops.

Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 18, 9:18 am, "Fred Olver"  wrote:

Ester, were you attempting to make a joke?

Fred Olver







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From: "Esther" 
To: "VIPhone" 
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: King of Dragon Pass iOS game on sale for $6.99

Whoops, left off the URL link to King of Dragon Pass in the App 
Store:https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/king-of-dragon-pass/id335545504?mt=8


And the link to the AppleVis app deal posting with all the links to
tutorials, reviews, podcasts, etc. 
is:http://www.applevis.com/apps/deals/ios-apps-dropped-price/king-dragon...


Sorry, I find trying to post links at the AppleVis site without
triggering off the spam filter rejection of posts really nerve-
racking.

HTH. Cheers,

Esther

On Mar 18, 8:46 am, Esther  wrote:
> Hello All,

> The award winning King of Dragon Pass game just went on sale for
> $6.99, reduced from $9.99, in celebration of selling over 30,000
> copies, and will be offered at this price for 3 days. (i think that
> means up until March 21, 2013). You can read the App Deal posting at
> the AppleVis site, which contains links to all the reviews, tutorials,
> and podcasts about this role playing game at that site. If you want an
> RTF version of the early tutorial that Anouk posted about this game on
> this list, you can find it at John Panarese's Mac for the Blind web
> site documentation page:http://macfortheblind.com/documentation
> Look under the "Tutorials and Other Documentation" heading.

> Those of you who are familiar with the game may get a kick out of
> reading the blog post announcing this 
> sale:http://kingofdragonpass.blogspot.com/2013/03/30k-sales.html

> You can read it in Safari Reader (by double tapping the "Reader"
> button to the right of the URL address, or by pressing Command-Shift -
> r on a Mac).

> HTH. Cheers,

> Esther,



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Re: Making Videos with iPhone 5?

[Fred Olver]

I'm curious to know what level of light is necessary to make a video? I see 
with the light dector app that one can determine the level of light in a 
particular area.


Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: "Patrick Neazer" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Making Videos with iPhone 5?



Hello Lisa and all:

Congratulations on taking your first video. I am sure you are thrilled :). 
nothing like a sense of accomplishment.


As has already been pointed out, landscape provides a wider viewpoint. 
However, portrait may produce better results indoors or when you have a 
large amount of light.


If you can separate yourself from $0.00 you might want to pick up the 
light detector app. then you can play around with your camera in relation 
to the light you have in which to take pictures and video. Here is the 
link:


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/light-detector/id420929143?mt=8

Much good luck to you and please let us know if this information proves 
useful to you.


Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick


On Mar 16, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Lisa belville  
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Hi, all.

Yesterday I shot my first video using the iPhone and attached it to a 
text message.  let's just say I was impressed with how easy it was and 
how well VO provided feedback.


The people watching the video said it looked Okay visually, but suggested 
that I turn the phone sideways I'm thinking landscape? because the actual 
video portion was very small and there was a black border around it.


I'm totally blind, so going on what people are telling me.  What can I do 
to position the phone so that videos look better?


I use the back facing camera, and when I made the video, the phone was in 
portrait mode.  Would choosing landscape help visually?


Lisa



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Re: iPhone 4 keeps constantly switching to and from speaker phone

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If you take it in I'm sure they will be able to determine that you are 
having a problem.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Christina C." 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone 4 keeps constantly switching to and from speaker phone


My iPhone 4 does not announce the time or anything unless I get a 
notification.  However, while my phone is doing the crazy dance of trying to 
switch speaker phone on and off and on and off it cuts my voice off and the 
listener cannot hear me nor can I hear them except for an occasional 
syllable. :( I do not have a screen protector or cover on my screen. I guess 
I may need to take it into apple but I am afraid I will not produce the 
problem. Maybe they can do some diagnostic testing.


Thanks all,
Christina

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Re: which overlay for the phone

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Ray, the phone will identify icons on the screen for you but it will 
identify letters as well, but if I was going to get an overlay I would 
probably want the one for the letters since there are so many. It is, of 
course individual choice, but that's my two cents worth.


Fred Olver  N9BSO

Are you on echolink, we could talk about it there???

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Subject: which overlay for the phone


Ok folks I am still stumbling my way towards an IPhone I've been fighting 
getting a bloody mobile
which did not have proper buttons but that is going about as well as 
whistling in the wind. So

looking at the 4 which overlay would work best?


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Echolink and the Iphone?

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Have you thought about using Echolink on your Iphone? It's as easy as 
downloading the app and setting it up, all in all should take you about 5 
minutes to get it working and of course if you want you can always go to the 
test node to check out your set up.

Would love to chat with you.

N9BSO is my callsign and if you send me an email to goodfo...@charter.net we 
can hook up shortly.
This app is most definitely voice-over friendly.

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Re: Echo link and the IPhone?

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No, there is an identifieed button on the screen, just below the middle,.

Fred
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  Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:23 PM
  Subject: RE: Echo link and the IPhone?


  what do you use as a PTT the home button?

   

   

  Ray T. Mahorney

  WA4WGA

   

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Fred Olver
  Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 23:20
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  Have you thought about using Echolink on your Iphone? It's as easy as 
downloading the app and setting it up, all in all should take you about 5 
minutes to get it working and of course if you want you can always go to the 
test node to check out your set up.

   

  Would love to chat with you.

   

  N9BSO is my callsign and if you send me an email to goodfo...@charter.net we 
can hook up shortly.

  This app is most definitely voice-over friendly.

   

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Re: Help-NCAA radio

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I have a football app and was able to listen to some of the games that way. I 
think the app is called free football radio.

Fred
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  Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:00 PM
  Subject: Help-NCAA radio


  Hi folks:


  Today I tried for the whole day to listen to the NCAA's games on my IPhone 
but was not able to get any radio broadcast using OOtunes.


  Can someone tell me about a radio that broadcasts all the games (or part of 
them since many games take place simultaneously) or an app to listen to the 
games?


  I tried the NCAA app but didn't find any listen choice (actually many of the 
buttons were not labeled).


  Any help will be appreciated.


  Regards.

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Re: IPhone6?

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Troy,

One thing to keep in mind, if anyone knew anything for sure they couldn't tell 
you anyway.

Fred Olver
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  Subject: RE: IPhone6?


  Hi Troy,

   

  First of all,, it's probably better to refer to it as the new 2013 iPhone 
since nobody knows what it will be called, if Apple is true to form it should 
be the 5S and it is extremely likely that it will look exactly like the iPhone 
5 as far as the form factor is concerned. Apart from that nobody knows anything 
about it beyond vague rumours. It is far too early but if you want to keep on 
top of what's going on the Today in iOS Podcast is probably one of the better 
sources and even if Rob doesn't have information about the new iPhone it's 
nonetheless a very interesting Podcast.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

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  I've been seeing little hints about the IPhone6, anyone know anything about 
it?

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Re: how smart Siri?

[Fred Olver]

Ray, I suggest you give some thought to going to http://www.applevis.com and 
look at what they have to offer. There are podcasts on a number of apps and 
I'm betting the Iphone and Siri as well. Also, you might try checking the 
archives for things like Siri commands or just Siri. Also you might just do 
a search for Siri on google and see what you come up with, you might be 
pleasantly surprised.


Fred Olver
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: how smart Siri?



thank you sir.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of David Chittenden

Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 20:29
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how smart Siri?

The dictation limit is 30 seconds per segment. You can activate the 
dictation button again after

each batch is converted.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 25/03/2013, at 7:19, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
wrote:


You say that you have to have yourself as a contact I assume from this 
that the phone doesn't
already know you are the account holder?  Also is there a word limit on 
email dictation?  for
reasons of limited use of the hands my written emails are necessarily 
"terse"



Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 18:12
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how smart Siri?

Hi Ray,

SIRI is designed to understand natural speech and for certain things it 
is

more forgiving than others. For example, you can tell SIRI any of the
following and it will do it perfectly:

Set my alarm for 7 AM
Set my alarm for 7 in the morning
Wake me up at 7
I have to get up at 7

However, if you tell it "Wake me up at 7 on Wednesday", for some reason 
it
will tell  you that an alarm can't be set for more than 1 day ahead and 
then

it asks if you want to set a Reminder instead.

Reminders are very easy to set and allow for good options. You can say:

Remind me to Call John on Wednesday at 3 PM
Remind me to take the garbage out at 8 every Tuesday morning - this will 
set

a recurring reminder

You can ask it to calculate stuff, regular arithmetic, tips/percentages 
and

so on.
You can ask it to convert most stuff
You can ask geographical information like "What is the fifth most 
populated

country in the world
Anything Wolfram Alpha has information about you can pretty much ask.

By "how speaker independent is the program" I assume you mean does it
understand different people? If so, then yes, as long as you speak 
whatever
language you have your iPhone and SIRI set to without too much of an 
accent
then it should work quite well. I have a slight German accent but 
typically
SIRI understands me rather well. There are interesting instances where I 
say
something and SIRI repeats it completely differently. One example is that 
I
usually say "Call my work" if I want to call my main business number. 
SIRI

of course knows who I am since as long as you have yourself entered as a
contact with work number, home number, mobile number, email and addresses
and so on SIRI knows that "you" are you. Anyhow, I can say "Call my work
number" 10 times and it gets it right every time, but from time to time 
it

just seems to go off on a rant and it will say back "Call my brother" or
"Call Mike Roark" or something stupid like that. If I repeat "Call my 
work"

and really pronounce it, it will just not get it and I just say "Call
Sieghard at work" and that is fine. Then again later "Call my work" works
just fine.

I think it might sometimes depend on how busy the servers are, maybe how
good your connection is, how much background noise there is and all that.
Normally background noise is dealt with very well, I have dictated short
text messages in a restaurant with a lot of background noise and it was 
no
problem. What is a problem is if you tell it something and somebody else 
is
talking very nearby, then SIRI may just continue to listen not knowing 
the

other person speaking is not part of what I am saying.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Ray T. Mahorney
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: how smart Siri?

Perhaps not the best way to phrase that but the question is this is there 
a
set of phrases the program recognizes or has to be prompted with other 
than

the program name before requests can be carried out?  Also how speaker
independent is the program?


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Re: Major problems streaming internet radio on iPhone 5

[Fred Olver]

Joanie and others, Recently someone suggested that I go in to settings, sounds, 
and change lock sounds. I did so and have had no problems. Let me repeat, if 
you go in to settings, sounds, and then most of the way down to lock sounds, 
change it to off and this may, I say may eliminate your problem.

Fred Olver

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joney 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Major problems streaming internet radio on iPhone 5


  So do all of the other radio apps. They worked well until 6.13 was updated. I 
have sent a note to the maker of ooTunes to see if he knows what's going on 
with his app. Hopefully, someone will have an idea of what to do. Maybe, Apple 
will revise their app, since it seems to have started
  D after the update.Joney

  On Mar 23, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Chuck Bradley  wrote:


Just stumbled into this group.  Same problems, Tune-in works great on Ipad 
2, Iphone 3gs, and constantly stops on iPhone 5.


I turned off wi-fi and LTE and it seems to be working.


I also have had trouble with NPR streaming from NPR news.


No trouble with MLB radio streaming.

On Monday, December 10, 2012 4:03:31 AM UTC-5, Grant wrote:
  Hi all, 

  For a few weeks now I've been trying to ignore this problem, or chalk 
  it up to an unreliable data connection, problem with the station I'm 
  trying to listen to, or some other thing which isn't the fault of my 
  iPhone. 

  Here's the reality. When placed beside each other on a table and 
  connected to the exact same WIFI network, streaming the same station 
  in tandem, my older iPhone 4S can play for hours without any problem. 
  My 5, on the other hand, constantly buffers, skips, and disconnects 
  for several seconds. Streaming radio is basically useless on my iPhone 
  5, because it just doesn't work reliably. I'd say every fifteen to 
  thirty seconds there's a hiccup in the stream, usually a pause of 
  several seconds. 

  I really don't get where the problem lies, because I've swapped my 
  phone a couple of times for unrelated issues and I remember having 
  streaming problems on those other phones too. It doesn't matter what 
  station I stream, which app I use (Safari, Ootunes, Tunein, or a 
  number of other radio apps I tried in the app store). Doesn't matter 
  which WIFI network I'm on, or if I'm on LTE or 3G. The problem still 
  persists. 

  Have set up as a new iPhone, reset all settings, reset network 
  settings, done a restore in iTunes, and just can't get the problem to 
  go away. 

  I'd would have thought this was a hardware problem, but weirdly, other 
  data works impeccably. No issues with Skype, iTunes Match, mail, or 
  even apps like podcast clients--streaming audio that is not live, 
  works fine. It just seems to be live, streaming audio that's the 
  problem. 

  Does anybody have any idea what could possibly be the problem? Can 
  anyone confirm whether they can use apps like Ootunes on an iPhone 5 
  with zero issues? 

  Grant 


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Re: help with dimensions

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Sure can Chris, I'll see about giving you some dropbox links for a couple 
items which will help you. One of them could involve Terry's tread mill.


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Hi all,

I just installed the game dimensions, and I'm lost.
Can someone please give me some general tips on how this game is played?
thanks,
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Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.

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Sandy, is it possible that these apps learn from scanning or not?

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: "Sandratomkins" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.


Hi Annie,

   It wasn't bad, was it?

   In the end, Prizmo took the prize! Text Grabber did well, but Prizmo 
dealt best with the columns. However, this was my second shot, the first 
showed the half frction for the lemon, but was less good elsewhere. So, why 
did it mistake the fraction in one scan and not in the other? Why is it that 
when you keep the book in precisely the same position and the lighting the 
same, is it that you get differing results? This is, obviously, more to do 
with software than the physical nature of scanning. There wasn't much 
between the two, but I would suggest that having both apps will afford the 
best chance of getting perfect/near perfect scans depending upon the 
layout/formatting of the text. Also, if you are away from your StandScan 
pro, prizmo is still much easier to use, it is more forgiving of slight 
skewing of the text.


   Now, i am also interested to see how i can improve on rounded surfaces. 
E.G. tins/bottles. Thus far, they prove difficult with tins doing better 
than bottles of wine, this is because the diameter of a wine bottle is less 
than the usual tin, so less curvature and less distorting of the text.


   What is nice here is that we are beginning to speak of more difficult 
aspects of scanning and not of the simple stuff which is very doable now 
with these apps and the StandScan Pro. I think I have read that you are 
awaiting yours? If I am right, please do let us know how you do with recipes 
etc, will you? Many people here may not be interested in recipes, but may be 
interested in, say, mathematical formulae or scientific symbols etc, getting 
good results with recipes will help in working toward this IMHO.


   Happy scanning and I could only wish that having scanned a recipe, I 
could only get as proficient at actually cooking it!


   Sandy.

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Mar 2013, at 12:35, Annie Skov Nielsen  
wrote:



Hi Sandra.

Is this scanning done with textgrabber or prizmo.

I have been scanning books for many years, and I can tell that cookbooks 
are the most difficult books to get a sensible result from. I am really 
impressed that you can get such results with a IPhone and standscan.


Best regards Annie.
On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Sandratomkins  
wrote:



Hi,

  I have just been playing with Text Grabber and Prizmo in conjunction 
with my StandScan Pro. I decided to try them with a book that I attempted 
to scan many years ago using a flat-bed scanner and Kurtzweil. My 
results, possibly, ten or more years ago, were less than satisfactory. In 
fact, you couldn't follow the recipes because the quantities were 
illegible. Now, in many ways, the apps we have available to us on the 
iPhone, are in their infancy. obviously, they are a fraction of the size 
of, say, Kurtzweil and, also obviously, a fraction of the price. plus, 
now we are dealing with a portable solution. When you want to read a 
letter, something simple with no columns etc, both Prizmo and Text 
Grabber will do the job, especially when using the StandScan Pro. 
However, imbedded columns and symbols for grammes/ounces/fractions etc 
can prove daunting for these pocket sized OCR packages. Now that we have 
a way to position the phone exactly, and we can ensure perfect lighting 
conditions, when things go wrong it is more to do with the scanning/OCR 
capability of a given app rather than the physicality of scanning. Also, 
there is one other variable: to wit, when we use a flat-bed scanner, the 
book we are scanning is facing down onto a flat surface and gravity alone 
will heple with ensuring the flatness of the text. Now and again, we may 
use pressure on that book to make sure that the text nearest to the spine 
is readable. This we cannot do when the book is facing up toward the 
phone. So, until apps such as Prizmo or Text Grabber get really clever 
and learn to deal with distorted text, we aill always have trouble 
scanning two pages of a book, apart from when we are scanning roughly 
half way through, because only half way through will allow you to hold 
the pages equally flat.


  With all this in mind, I tried both Text Grabber and prizmo on my "The 
Big Book of Tomatoes". I wanted results that would mean I could follow 
the recipes with ease. In the end, for good enough results, I had to use 
only single page shots. These pages all have paragraphs of text plus 
columns of ingredients. Below is my best result, there are two 
significant mistakes, where you will hear 'tilda" it should read "half" 
(so  half a lemon). Also, when it says "s minutes" it should read 5.


  The rest is perfect, it starts wheE. half way through a sentence and 
finishes at the bot

Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.

[Fred Olver]

I have done the same thing and actually thought about mentioning it as well.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Eileens Misrahi" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: Text Grabber and Prizmo have different strengths.


Hi Sandy,
I am not sure that my comment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back 
when I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well 
with either OCR products. I would  pull the binding off  so I could lie a 
single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and 
I am looking forward to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various 
written materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin 
to experiment with recipes.   Thanks for all your hard work in making it 
easier for all us us to use Ocr on our iPhone.


Best,
EileenHi Sandy,
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back 
when I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well 
with either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie 
a single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and 
I am looking to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written 
materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to 
experiment. Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier for all us to 
use Ocr on our iPhone.


Best,
Eileen

Hi Sandy,
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back 
when I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well 
with either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie 
a single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and 
I am looking to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written 
materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to 
experiment. Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier for all us to 
use Ocr on our iPhone.


Best,
EileenSentHi Sandy,
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back 
when I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well 
with either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie 
a single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and 
I am looking to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written 
materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to 
experiment. Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier for all us to 
use Ocr on our iPhone.


Best,
EileenHi Sandy,
I am not sure,that my momment will be off topic, but here goes. Way back 
when I was in grad school, I would have a book that would not scan very well 
with either OCR products. I would would pull the binding off, so I could lie 
a single page flat down on the flatbed scanner to get the optimal result. I 
only bring this up is that this step may need to be used again until you or 
someone else will figure it out. I punched holes in the margins, so I could 
preserve the book for later use. I will be receiving my StandScan today and 
I am looking to getting perfect or near perfect scans of various written 
materials. Once I have some confidence with the device, I will begin to 
experiment. Thanks for all your hard work in making it easier for all us to 
use Ocr on our iPhone.


Best,
Eileen from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Sandratomkins  
wrote:



Hi Annie,

   It wasn't bad, was it?

   In the end, Prizmo took the prize! Text Grabber did well, but Prizmo 
dealt best with the columns. However, this was my second shot, the first 
showed the half frction for the lemon, but was less good elsewhere. So, 
why did it mistake the fraction in one scan and not in the other? Why is 
it that when you keep the book in precisely the same position and the 
lighting the same, is it that you get differing results? This is, 
obviously, more to do with software than the physical nature of scanning. 
There wasn't much between the two,

Re: Alignment of the phone's camera using the StandScan

[Fred Olver]

Sandra, have you given any thought to using the box and one of the color 
identifiers to check the color of various pieces of clothing or to determine 
whether this is a possibility or if one color identifier works better than 
another for this purpose?


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Sandratomkins" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Alignment of the phone's camera using the StandScan


Hi Eileen,

   1. If your case is easy to remove, then do that, it can't but help.
2. Are you right handed? I am left, but will offer my advice based upon the 
norm, I.E. right handedness. place the phone on the top of the box, with the 
open side of the box facing you. Obviously, you want the top right corner of 
the phone to cover the round aperture for the camera. I find, when my phone 
is in the right place, there is a gap between the front edge of the top of 
the box and the phone's left hand side, which measures about half an inch (a 
large centimetre) and this gap should be the same for the length of the 
phone to ensure that it is straight.
3. i find that when my phone, especially not in the case, is in position, I 
can feel the rounded edges of the hole, very slightly, at the top edge of 
the phone and to the right.
4. I would suggest using Prizmo to start because you can use the speech 
command to take the shot and, in this way, you won't dislodge the phone from 
its position by tapping. Also, prizmo is more forgiving of slightly skewed 
text, so, while you are finding your feet, you should get some reasonable 
results.
5. Make sure you are using 12 volts, either with the 12 volt battery backup 
or with the mains adaptor. I find that the lights give off some heat, after 
a minute of the 12 volts, so, if you can't tell otherwise, this should let 
you know that the lights are working.


Placing the document inside:
1. I find it is more important to have the text square rather than 
centralised as the camera has a complete view of the whole of the base of 
the box, so, align your paper with the back and side of the box and make 
sure it is flat.


   So, to sum up: your phone should be laying with its long, left side 
parallel with the front of the box but about half an inch away. And you 
should just be able to detect the edge of the round hole at the top of the 
phone on the right and to the side.


   It will help to have guiding tactiles, but I have not been using them, 
so they are not essential, once you get a feel for the right position.


   Don't worry, i promise you, once you have got used to it, it will work 
for you!!! As always, start with something easy to scan so you can get some 
successes to boost your confidence and don't worry if you need to keep 
coming back for tips, other people may have similar issues at first, so your 
questions will be helpful for others as well.


   Ah! although both Prizmo and Text Grabber can work with text turned 
through 90 degrees, it is always better to have the text up the right way, 
so the top should be to the right of the box, assuming you are right-handed.


   HTH and do please let me know how it goes.

   Sandy.

Sent from my iPhone

On 26 Mar 2013, at 16:43, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:


Hello Folks,

I just received my StandScan in the mail yesterday. I need some assistance 
in aligning the phone's on top of the StandScan. It's in a case that has 
arectangular cutout where the camera is located. I have tried to align it 
with the upper eedge of the camera's hole on the StandScan, but I am 
getting poor recognition on most of my scan. Help!!! I am up to date on 
the latest post from Sandy, so I know that are looking into labels one can 
use with the device. Until these labels are ready, What can I do to get 
better alignment of the camera on the StandScan? Would it better to remove 
the case to use it? Is there a particular place in the I should place the 
materials in the box when it isn't a full sheet? All suggestions are 
appreciated.


Thanks in advance.

Best,
Eileen


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Re: Prizmo VS TextGrabber with the StandScan Pro using 12 volt AC

[Fred Olver]

Looking in the app store for text grabber, found two which sound likely, 
each is $4.99 here in the states. Which one???


Text Grabber plus translator or
smart scan plus ocr?

Fred Olver

P.S. Just ordered my scanstand pro, do repeat, do not use punctuation in 
putting in your address, no periods or commas



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From: "Sandratomkins" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: Prizmo VS TextGrabber with the StandScan Pro using 12 volt AC


Hi Richard,

   Don't give up on TG yet! You have to have all your settings right. So, 
as Esther says: the right recognition language (by the way, i had mine 
inadvertently set to Italian so I too got some strange sounding results for 
a while there). No cropping and, a suggestion, don't save images.


   Text Grabber is only my favourite when using the standScan Pro, I have 
very little success with it free-hand. But the marriage of the box with TG 
is, I think, one made in heaven! Also, it isn't just a matter of which is 
the best, but rather that of having options should one or other of them 
decide to become unfriendly to VO.


   Lastly, TG needs accurate alignment, so make sure your paper etc is 
square with the inside corner of the box.


   Sandy.

Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Mar 2013, at 19:26, Chris H  wrote:


I judge that Prizmo is the clear winner in your tests.


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On 19/03/2013 17:43, Richard Turner wrote:
I am pasting two results of scans using the instruction sheet from the 
StandScan and the results I got with Prizmo and TextGrabber.  The 
conditions were identical.

You be the judge.

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Re: Stand scan pro

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$29.95. use the coupon code viphone and get ten percent off and a free 
9-volt battery-holder.


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Subject: Re: Stand scan pro



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Subject: Stand scan pro


Hello,
I have been sort of following the different threads on this topic. So, my 
question is, can one if you provide me with a website that gives more 
information than just a video? I want to show it to my partner, who is an 
adaptive technology specialist. I want her to see the stands scan   and 
see what it's like. She teaches iPhone for the VA, and this might be a 
good thing for her clients.

Thank you.

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Re: Attention: Standscan Pro discount code and bonus

[Fred Olver]

I must have been confused, however I want to clarify something about the 
standscan pro. it does not, I repeat not, come with a free 9-volt 
battery-holder the 12-volt wall appliance is included at no charge.


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: "ViPhone List" 
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:51 AM
Subject: Attention: Standscan Pro discount code and bonus



Hello List,

A Viphone member who prefers to remain anonymous recently thought to ask 
if Standscan would consider offering Viphone members a small 
incentive/discount since Harry expressed to that person that he was happy 
their product was of such practical use for visually impaired iPhone 
users. The Standscan was not developed with the blind users in mind, but 
Standscan is a good example of a company who is responsive and interested 
in making their product available.


The list member thought it wouldn't hurt to inquire and Harry replied 
promptly and said that they had in fact already been considering such a
discount, but were just a bit hesitant because a few people already 
purchased the Standscan and they were concerned how people who paid full 
price would react if they now offered a discount. Said list member 
suggested that in his opinion there could be a few people who might be 
upset, but that on the other hand this happens all the time in daily life. 
You might buy a box of laundry soap for $10 only to find it's on sale 2 
days later for $6.99. Furthermore, we are talking about a $30 product here 
and they are not offering a 50% discount and it is only because a few list 
members contacted them and gave them such positive feedback.


The anonymous list member has asked me or Cara Quinn to post the following 
offer to the list: anybody who orders a Standscan Pro using the discount 
"Viphone" during the check-out will get a 10% discount and a free 9 Volt 
battery holder. This means you get the $29.95 Standscan for approx. $27 + 
a free 9 Volt Battery Holder which normally I think is $4.95. The 10% 
discount in fact applies to any item you order from their website. Once 
again, use '"VIPHONE" without the quotes of course as a discount code in 
the appropriate discount code field during the check-out process.


Below is Harry's email:

Original Message-
From: StandScan [mailto:i...@standscan.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 
12:33 PM

Subject: Re: Standscan Inquiry

Hello,

I have setup a discount code VIPHONE which gets members on the forum 10% 
off

on anything they purchase from the site.
If a StandScan Pro is part of the order, we will include a free 9V battery
holder (they do not need to purchase the 9V holder). So for $27 they get
$34.4 value.
This is almost 25% off, I hope they will be happy with this deal as I have
worked hard to get the best possible.

Would really appreciate if you could help to have this posted this over on
the forum.

Thanks,
Harry

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Re: Prizmo VS TextGrabber with the StandScan Pro using 12 volt AC

[Fred Olver]

Thank you, Anne, wouldn't want to get the wrong one.

Fred
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Prizmo VS TextGrabber with the StandScan Pro using 12 volt AC


Hello Fred,

The one I bought was TextGrabber plus Translator and it works.

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2013, at 19:56, Fred Olver  wrote:

Looking in the app store for text grabber, found two which sound likely, 
each is $4.99 here in the states. Which one???


Text Grabber plus translator or
smart scan plus ocr?

Fred Olver

P.S. Just ordered my scanstand pro, do repeat, do not use punctuation in 
putting in your address, no periods or commas



- Original Message - From: "Sandratomkins" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: Prizmo VS TextGrabber with the StandScan Pro using 12 volt AC


Hi Richard,

  Don't give up on TG yet! You have to have all your settings right. So, 
as Esther says: the right recognition language (by the way, i had mine 
inadvertently set to Italian so I too got some strange sounding results 
for a while there). No cropping and, a suggestion, don't save images.


  Text Grabber is only my favourite when using the standScan Pro, I have 
very little success with it free-hand. But the marriage of the box with TG 
is, I think, one made in heaven! Also, it isn't just a matter of which is 
the best, but rather that of having options should one or other of them 
decide to become unfriendly to VO.


  Lastly, TG needs accurate alignment, so make sure your paper etc is 
square with the inside corner of the box.


  Sandy.

Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Mar 2013, at 19:26, Chris H  wrote:


I judge that Prizmo is the clear winner in your tests.


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On 19/03/2013 17:43, Richard Turner wrote:
I am pasting two results of scans using the instruction sheet from the 
StandScan and the results I got with Prizmo and TextGrabber.  The 
conditions were identical.

You be the judge.

Using the Standscan pro with Prizmo:
ST HDS Scan H easy:'-,,gith StandScan! www.facebook.com/Sta ndSca n % k, 
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for scanning documents, images, objects, receipts, bills, name cards 
Portable device
that works with any smartphone Light weight, ready for use in an 
instant, folds flat
in seconds, fits into your backpack or computer bag Use with smartphone 
apps to OCR
text and create searchable PDFs Share your scans, documents and pictures 
instantly

www.standscan.com



Using TextGrabber with the Standscan Pro:
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Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)


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