subject:"Attachments"

Re: Finding attachments.

2020-08-07 Thread Anthony (Tony) Francis

Hi Neil

Thank you for your reply, I had an e-mail from Ronnie hidden away in my Keepers 
file, found the original e-mail, and followed Ronnie’ advice, now back on 
track, thank you I’ll also save your reply and your other tips as they may just 
come in handy sometime.

Thank you Neil

Kind Regards

Tony

BODDINGTON.

> On 7 Aug 2020, at 7:53 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tony,
>  
> Couple of things to try:
> If disk is recognised but not “mounted” it will show up in disk utility – 
> fire up disk utility, look for the disk, if it is showing but “greyed out” 
> select it and hit the “mount” button.
> If the drive is not even showing, I would always first try just unplugging 
> and re-plugging the lead (FW or USB)
>  
> I nearly always find this sorts things out.
>  
>  
>  
> If not, I believe there are some tried methods involving unplugging both the 
> leads and the drives and then using a particular order for re-connecting – I 
> can’t say that I’ve ever had the situation where this is required but I 
> believe it helps in some situations (google it).
>  
> Still no luck? – try running “system report” – on my El Capitan, I go to 
> “about this mac” (top of the apple menu) and then click the “System Report” 
> button then look under “hardware” in the sidebar and select the appropriate 
> item (firewire or USB) - then you should be able to see what is connected. On 
> later OSX versions the method for running a “System Report” may have changed 
> – but that should be easy to check.
>  
> If you still cannot see it you may have a hardware problem – you can 
> generally narrow this down, through a process of elimination, to the actual 
> external drive, or the connecting cable, or possibly the port on the mac.
>  
> That should give you plenty to work through!
>  
> Let us know how you get on.
>  
>  
>  
> Cheers
>  
>  
> Neil
>  
>  
>  
> From:  <mailto:wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au>> on behalf of "Anthony 
> (Tony) Francis" mailto:antne...@mac.com>>
> Reply-To: WAMUG mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
> Date: Friday, 07 August 2020 at 17:47
> To: WAMUG mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
> Subject: Re: Finding attachments.
>  
> Hi Steven
>  
> Sorry, I have two External Hard Drives that I have at different times  
> connected to my Computer, both turned  “On” but don’t show up on the Desktop, 
> I have a third that as soon as it is connected into the Computer it is 
> recognised almost immediately.
>  
> I had this problem once before and Ronnie gave me instructions on how to 
> check what is actually connected to the computer but not actually showing on 
> the Desk Top, I have forgotten how to do this. I thought it was in Utilities, 
> but no luck.
>  
> Thanks Steven
>  
> Tony
> 
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 5:36 pm, Stephen Chape > <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Tony.
>> I am not sure what you mean.
>> Attachments are files that are attached to an email ?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 2:18 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis >> <mailto:antne...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Good Afternoon Members
>>>  
>>> I have forgotten how to find attachments that are connected to my iMac, but 
>>> not showing on the desktop, Ronnie helped me once but I have long since 
>>> forgotten. Any help would be appreciated, the grey matter ain’t what is was.
>>>  
>>> Thanks Guy’s
>>>  
>>> Kind Regards
>>>  
>>> Tony
>>>  
>>> BODDINGTON.
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>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
>>  
>>  
>>  
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Re: Finding attachments.

2020-08-07 Thread Anthony (Tony) Francis

Hi Stephen

Have rechecked everything and the advice from Ronnie was correct, I found the 
Hard Drives showing in Disk Utility, so have them now showing on my desk top.

Thanks Stephen

Kind Regards

Tony
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> On 7 Aug 2020, at 5:52 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> OK Tony … get you now.
> But I am not sure of the solution to that.
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 5:46 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis > <mailto:antne...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Steven
>> 
>> Sorry, I have two External Hard Drives that I have at different times  
>> connected to my Computer, both turned  “On” but don’t show up on the 
>> Desktop, I have a third that as soon as it is connected into the Computer it 
>> is recognised almost immediately.
>> 
>> I had this problem once before and Ronnie gave me instructions on how to 
>> check what is actually connected to the computer but not actually showing on 
>> the Desk Top, I have forgotten how to do this. I thought it was in 
>> Utilities, but no luck.
>> 
>> Thanks Steven
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 5:36 pm, Stephen Chape >> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tony.
>>> I am not sure what you mean.
>>> Attachments are files that are attached to an email ?
>>> 
>>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 2:18 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis >>> <mailto:antne...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good Afternoon Members
>>>> 
>>>> I have forgotten how to find attachments that are connected to my iMac, 
>>>> but not showing on the desktop, Ronnie helped me once but I have long 
>>>> since forgotten. Any help would be appreciated, the grey matter ain’t what 
>>>> is was.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Guy’s
>>>> 
>>>> Kind Regards
>>>> 
>>>> Tony
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Finding attachments.

2020-08-07 Thread Anthony (Tony) Francis

Hi Steven

Sorry, I have two External Hard Drives that I have at different times  
connected to my Computer, both turned  “On” but don’t show up on the Desktop, I 
have a third that as soon as it is connected into the Computer it is recognised 
almost immediately.

I had this problem once before and Ronnie gave me instructions on how to check 
what is actually connected to the computer but not actually showing on the Desk 
Top, I have forgotten how to do this. I thought it was in Utilities, but no 
luck.

Thanks Steven

Tony

> On 7 Aug 2020, at 5:36 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tony.
> I am not sure what you mean.
> Attachments are files that are attached to an email ?
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 2:18 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis > <mailto:antne...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good Afternoon Members
>> 
>> I have forgotten how to find attachments that are connected to my iMac, but 
>> not showing on the desktop, Ronnie helped me once but I have long since 
>> forgotten. Any help would be appreciated, the grey matter ain’t what is was.
>> 
>> Thanks Guy’s
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> BODDINGTON.
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> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Finding attachments.

2020-08-07 Thread Neil Houghton

Hi Tony,

 

Couple of things to try:
If disk is recognised but not “mounted” it will show up in disk utility – fire 
up disk utility, look for the disk, if it is showing but “greyed out” select it 
and hit the “mount” button.
If the drive is not even showing, I would always first try just unplugging and 
re-plugging the lead (FW or USB)
 

I nearly always find this sorts things out.

 

 

 

If not, I believe there are some tried methods involving unplugging both the 
leads and the drives and then using a particular order for re-connecting – I 
can’t say that I’ve ever had the situation where this is required but I believe 
it helps in some situations (google it).

 

Still no luck? – try running “system report” – on my El Capitan, I go to “about 
this mac” (top of the apple menu) and then click the “System Report” button 
then look under “hardware” in the sidebar and select the appropriate item 
(firewire or USB) - then you should be able to see what is connected. On later 
OSX versions the method for running a “System Report” may have changed – but 
that should be easy to check.

 

If you still cannot see it you may have a hardware problem – you can generally 
narrow this down, through a process of elimination, to the actual external 
drive, or the connecting cable, or possibly the port on the mac.

 

That should give you plenty to work through!

 

Let us know how you get on.

 

 

 

Cheers

 

 

Neil

 

 

 

From:  on behalf of "Anthony 
(Tony) Francis" 
Reply-To: WAMUG 
Date: Friday, 07 August 2020 at 17:47
To: WAMUG 
Subject: Re: Finding attachments.

 

Hi Steven

 

Sorry, I have two External Hard Drives that I have at different times  
connected to my Computer, both turned  “On” but don’t show up on the Desktop, I 
have a third that as soon as it is connected into the Computer it is recognised 
almost immediately.

 

I had this problem once before and Ronnie gave me instructions on how to check 
what is actually connected to the computer but not actually showing on the Desk 
Top, I have forgotten how to do this. I thought it was in Utilities, but no 
luck.

 

Thanks Steven

 

Tony



On 7 Aug 2020, at 5:36 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

 

Hi Tony.

I am not sure what you mean.

Attachments are files that are attached to an email ?



On 7 Aug 2020, at 2:18 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:

 

Good Afternoon Members

 

I have forgotten how to find attachments that are connected to my iMac, but not 
showing on the desktop, Ronnie helped me once but I have long since forgotten. 
Any help would be appreciated, the grey matter ain’t what is was.

 

Thanks Guy’s

 

Kind Regards

 

Tony

 

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Re: Finding attachments.

2020-08-07 Thread Anthony (Tony) Francis

Good Afternoon Members

I have forgotten how to find attachments that are connected to my iMac, but not 
showing on the desktop, Ronnie helped me once but I have long since forgotten. 
Any help would be appreciated, the grey matter ain’t what is was.

Thanks Guy’s

Kind Regards

Tony

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Re: Finding attachments.

2020-08-07 Thread Stephen Chape

OK Tony … get you now.
But I am not sure of the solution to that.

> On 7 Aug 2020, at 5:46 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hi Steven
> 
> Sorry, I have two External Hard Drives that I have at different times  
> connected to my Computer, both turned  “On” but don’t show up on the Desktop, 
> I have a third that as soon as it is connected into the Computer it is 
> recognised almost immediately.
> 
> I had this problem once before and Ronnie gave me instructions on how to 
> check what is actually connected to the computer but not actually showing on 
> the Desk Top, I have forgotten how to do this. I thought it was in Utilities, 
> but no luck.
> 
> Thanks Steven
> 
> Tony
> 
>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 5:36 pm, Stephen Chape > <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tony.
>> I am not sure what you mean.
>> Attachments are files that are attached to an email ?
>> 
>>> On 7 Aug 2020, at 2:18 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis >> <mailto:antne...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good Afternoon Members
>>> 
>>> I have forgotten how to find attachments that are connected to my iMac, but 
>>> not showing on the desktop, Ronnie helped me once but I have long since 
>>> forgotten. Any help would be appreciated, the grey matter ain’t what is was.
>>> 
>>> Thanks Guy’s
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> 
>>> Tony
>>> 
>>> BODDINGTON.
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>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Finding attachments.

2020-08-07 Thread Stephen Chape

Hi Tony.
I am not sure what you mean.
Attachments are files that are attached to an email ?

> On 7 Aug 2020, at 2:18 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:
> 
> Good Afternoon Members
> 
> I have forgotten how to find attachments that are connected to my iMac, but 
> not showing on the desktop, Ronnie helped me once but I have long since 
> forgotten. Any help would be appreciated, the grey matter ain’t what is was.
> 
> Thanks Guy’s
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Tony
> 
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Re: saving attachments

2017-03-19 Thread Jennifer Lefroy

Thank you, Ronni.  I have saved now and so easy when you know how! Your
reply for some reason didn't show up, but I have been having lots of
internet problems in the last few days so that may be why.

Kind regards,
Jennifer

On 20 March 2017 at 12:03, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
>
> I answered your question last Wednesday with my reply to WAMUG, did you
> not see my reply?
>
> This is what was in my reply:
> 1. Save the attachment
> 2. In the resulting Window - Click on the little arrow (right side)
> 3. Which then shows an extended Finder window dialogue - Save As: x
> 4. Scroll to the Folder in Documents you wish to save the attachment to
> 5. Then click ‘Save’
>
> If you don't understand, I can send you a screenshot Offlist if you wish.
>
> Kind regards,
> Ronni
>
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>
>
> On 20 Mar 2017, at 11:56 am, Jennifer Lefroy <lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Neil.  I do indeed mean folders within the system Documents
> folder.  Can anyone help?
>
> Regards, Jennifer
>
> On 15 March 2017 at 19:05, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote:
>
>> I would think by “documents” Jennifer means the system “Documents” folder
>>  ;o)
>>
>>
>> I’m yet to engage with Sierra – so can offer no insight
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil
>> --
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>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 <+61%208%209841%206063>
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> on 15/3/17 5:14 PM, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jennifer
>> I am sure you mean folders within folders ?
>> I have never had that issue.
>> Are you confusing folders with documents ?
>>
>>
>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 4:52 pm, Jennifer Lefroy <lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Since installing Sierra, I can no longer save email attachments to
>> folders within documents unless it is a recently used folder.  If I have
>> not recently used the folder, Documents is the closest option.  Can anyone
>> tell me what I should be doing, please?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jennifer
>>
>>
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Re: saving attachments

2017-03-19 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Jennifer,

I answered your question last Wednesday with my reply to WAMUG, did you not see 
my reply?

This is what was in my reply:
1. Save the attachment
2. In the resulting Window - Click on the little arrow (right side)
3. Which then shows an extended Finder window dialogue - Save As: x
4. Scroll to the Folder in Documents you wish to save the attachment to
5. Then click ‘Save’

If you don't understand, I can send you a screenshot Offlist if you wish.

Kind regards,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 20 Mar 2017, at 11:56 am, Jennifer Lefroy <lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Neil.  I do indeed mean folders within the system Documents 
> folder.  Can anyone help?
> 
> Regards, Jennifer
> 
>> On 15 March 2017 at 19:05, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote:
>> I would think by “documents” Jennifer means the system “Documents” folder  
>> ;o)
>> 
>> 
>> I’m yet to engage with Sierra – so can offer no insight
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> on 15/3/17 5:14 PM, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jennifer
>> I am sure you mean folders within folders ?
>> I have never had that issue.
>> Are you confusing folders with documents ?
>> 
>> 
>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 4:52 pm, Jennifer Lefroy <lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Since installing Sierra, I can no longer save email attachments to folders 
>> within documents unless it is a recently used folder.  If I have not 
>> recently used the folder, Documents is the closest option.  Can anyone tell 
>> me what I should be doing, please?  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jennifer
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Re: saving attachments

2017-03-19 Thread Jennifer Lefroy

Thank you, Neil.  I do indeed mean folders within the system Documents
folder.  Can anyone help?

Regards, Jennifer

On 15 March 2017 at 19:05, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote:

> I would think by “documents” Jennifer means the system “Documents” folder
>  ;o)
>
>
> I’m yet to engage with Sierra – so can offer no insight
>
>
>
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>
> on 15/3/17 5:14 PM, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
>
> Hi Jennifer
> I am sure you mean folders within folders ?
> I have never had that issue.
> Are you confusing folders with documents ?
>
>
> On 15 Mar 2017, at 4:52 pm, Jennifer Lefroy <lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Since installing Sierra, I can no longer save email attachments to folders
> within documents unless it is a recently used folder.  If I have not
> recently used the folder, Documents is the closest option.  Can anyone tell
> me what I should be doing, please?
>
> Regards,
> Jennifer
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Re: saving attachments

2017-03-15 Thread Ronni Brown

Hi Jennifer,

> On 15 Mar 2017, at 4:52 pm, Jennifer Lefroy <lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Since installing Sierra, I can no longer save email attachments to folders 
> within documents unless it is a recently used folder.  If I have not recently 
> used the folder, Documents is the closest option.  Can anyone tell me what I 
> should be doing, please?  

1. Save the attachment
2. In the resulting Window - Click on the little arrow (right side)
3. Which then shows an extended Finder window dialogue - Save As: x
4. Scroll to the Folder in Documents you wish to save the attachment to
5. Then click ‘Save’

Kind regards,
Ronni
> 
> Regards,
> Jennifer

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Re: saving attachments

2017-03-15 Thread Neil Houghton

I would think by ³documents² Jennifer means the system ³Documents² folder
;o)


I¹m yet to engage with Sierra  so can offer no insight



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on 15/3/17 5:14 PM, Stephen Chape at chap...@bigpond.com wrote:

> Hi Jennifer
> I am sure you mean folders within folders ?
> I have never had that issue.
> Are you confusing folders with documents ?
> 
> 
>> On 15 Mar 2017, at 4:52 pm, Jennifer Lefroy <lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Since installing Sierra, I can no longer save email attachments to folders
>> within documents unless it is a recently used folder.  If I have not recently
>> used the folder, Documents is the closest option.  Can anyone tell me what I
>> should be doing, please?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Jennifer
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Re: saving attachments

2017-03-15 Thread Stephen Chape

Hi Jennifer
I am sure you mean folders within folders ?
I have never had that issue.
Are you confusing folders with documents ?


> On 15 Mar 2017, at 4:52 pm, Jennifer Lefroy <lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Since installing Sierra, I can no longer save email attachments to folders 
> within documents unless it is a recently used folder.  If I have not recently 
> used the folder, Documents is the closest option.  Can anyone tell me what I 
> should be doing, please?  
> 
> Regards,
> Jennifer
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saving attachments

2017-03-15 Thread Jennifer Lefroy

Since installing Sierra, I can no longer save email attachments to folders
within documents unless it is a recently used folder.  If I have not
recently used the folder, Documents is the closest option.  Can anyone tell
me what I should be doing, please?

Regards,
Jennifer
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Re: Attachments to incoming mail in Mail not able to be opened second time

2017-02-12 Thread Graham Rabe

Hi Ronni, 

The sender of the email has not responded to my request for the information you 
asked of me. 

The problem has not re-ocurred so I’ll leave it for the time being.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,

Graham  
> On 10 Feb 2017, at 9:41 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Graham,
> 
> How did you on with this problem, has it been solved?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 30 Jan 2017, at 11:28 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Graham,
>> 
>> When you receive the emails with the PDF attachments, don't click on the 
>> attachments in the email, make sure you 'Save the Attachments' first! 
>> Save them to your desktop or downloads first.
>> 
>> I'll be busy most of the day but will get back to you when possible.
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>> On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:18 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au 
>> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ronni,
>>> 
>>> There are now no check-mark and lock items at the top of the message but I 
>>> cannot say whether they were initially there prior to me clicking on the 
>>> attachments.
>>> 
>>> I have asked the sender to send the email to me again with the attachments 
>>> to see whether there is anything there that could help us work out what’s 
>>> going on.
>>> 
>>> I hope to get back to you shortly - am awaiting their response. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Graham 
>>>> On 29 Jan 2017, at 7:17 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Graham,
>>>> 
>>>> Is the received attachment in an encrypted message (check-mark and lock 
>>>> icons at the top of the message)... S/MIME Encrypted Mail?
>>>> I have heard of similar happening in iOS7 with PDF attachments sent via 
>>>> Outlook encrypted message.
>>>> 
>>>> It could have something to do with how these 'problem' PDFs were generated.
>>>> How did you open the attachments the first time, what app did you 'Open 
>>>> In'?
>>>> 
>>>> I'll give it more thought and get back to you if I can suggest anything 
>>>> useful to try.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 1:54 pm, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au 
>>>> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ronni - I was hoping you’d come on board.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe if I’d “Saved the Attachments” when right clicking on them when the 
>>>>> icon first appeared that would have solved the problem as they would have 
>>>>> been saved to my hard drive. But I can’t do that now - there’s nothing I 
>>>>> can do with the 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The files are pdf ones.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, the email I’m referring to was from a Windows machine, but most of 
>>>>> the emails I receive with attachments are from Windows machines and this 
>>>>> only happens with some of them. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve searched the web many times over the past few days but don’t see any 
>>>>> reference to the problem. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 1:43 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Graham,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So you can't open these attachments a second time in Mail on your Macs & 
>>>>>> your iDevices?
>>>>>> What if you 'Save the Attachments' can you then open them many times?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What type of Files are the attachments... and what is their file 
>>>>>> extension?
>>>>>> Example: .doc , .docx, .ppt, .jpg .png 
>>>>>> Are the files from Windows users?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 5:22 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au 
>>>>>> &l

Re: Attachments to incoming mail in Mail not able to be opened second time

2017-02-09 Thread Ronni Brown

Hi Graham,

How did you on with this problem, has it been solved?

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 30 Jan 2017, at 11:28 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Graham,
> 
> When you receive the emails with the PDF attachments, don't click on the 
> attachments in the email, make sure you 'Save the Attachments' first! 
> Save them to your desktop or downloads first.
> 
> I'll be busy most of the day but will get back to you when possible.
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:18 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au 
> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni,
>> 
>> There are now no check-mark and lock items at the top of the message but I 
>> cannot say whether they were initially there prior to me clicking on the 
>> attachments.
>> 
>> I have asked the sender to send the email to me again with the attachments 
>> to see whether there is anything there that could help us work out what’s 
>> going on.
>> 
>> I hope to get back to you shortly - am awaiting their response. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Graham 
>>> On 29 Jan 2017, at 7:17 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Graham,
>>> 
>>> Is the received attachment in an encrypted message (check-mark and lock 
>>> icons at the top of the message)... S/MIME Encrypted Mail?
>>> I have heard of similar happening in iOS7 with PDF attachments sent via 
>>> Outlook encrypted message.
>>> 
>>> It could have something to do with how these 'problem' PDFs were generated.
>>> How did you open the attachments the first time, what app did you 'Open In'?
>>> 
>>> I'll give it more thought and get back to you if I can suggest anything 
>>> useful to try.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 1:54 pm, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au 
>>> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Ronni - I was hoping you’d come on board.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe if I’d “Saved the Attachments” when right clicking on them when the 
>>>> icon first appeared that would have solved the problem as they would have 
>>>> been saved to my hard drive. But I can’t do that now - there’s nothing I 
>>>> can do with the 
>>>> 
>>>> The files are pdf ones.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, the email I’m referring to was from a Windows machine, but most of 
>>>> the emails I receive with attachments are from Windows machines and this 
>>>> only happens with some of them. 
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve searched the web many times over the past few days but don’t see any 
>>>> reference to the problem. 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Graham 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 1:43 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Graham,
>>>>> 
>>>>> So you can't open these attachments a second time in Mail on your Macs & 
>>>>> your iDevices?
>>>>> What if you 'Save the Attachments' can you then open them many times?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What type of Files are the attachments... and what is their file 
>>>>> extension?
>>>>> Example: .doc , .docx, .ppt, .jpg .png 
>>>>> Are the files from Windows users?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 5:22 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au 
>>>>> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m using Apple Mail.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A restart does not solve the problem. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The email attachments appear on all devices as shown i.e. iPhone, 
>>>>>> desktop, laptop and iPad. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Graham 
>>>>>>> On 26 Jan 2017, at 10:04 pm, Rob Phillips <rphillips6...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:rphillips6...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Which email program are you using?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is it still occurring after a restart?
>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 26/1/17 8:47 pm, Graham Rabe wrote:
>>>>>>>> When receiving an email with an attachment - from only some senders  - 
>>>>>>>> I can initially open the attachment. But when I go back to the email a 
>>>>>>>> second time to open the attachment, the attachment is now a file name 
>>>>>>>> in blue between brackets . 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Clicking on that does nothing at all. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How can I re-open the attachment?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Graham Rabe
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> iMac late 2012
>>>>>>>> macOS Sierra 10.12.2

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Re: Attachments to incoming mail in Mail not able to be opened second time

2017-01-29 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Graham,

When you receive the emails with the PDF attachments, don't click on the 
attachments in the email, make sure you 'Save the Attachments' first! 
Save them to your desktop or downloads first.

I'll be busy most of the day but will get back to you when possible.
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:18 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni,
> 
> There are now no check-mark and lock items at the top of the message but I 
> cannot say whether they were initially there prior to me clicking on the 
> attachments.
> 
> I have asked the sender to send the email to me again with the attachments to 
> see whether there is anything there that could help us work out what’s going 
> on.
> 
> I hope to get back to you shortly - am awaiting their response. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham 
>> On 29 Jan 2017, at 7:17 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Graham,
>> 
>> Is the received attachment in an encrypted message (check-mark and lock 
>> icons at the top of the message)... S/MIME Encrypted Mail?
>> I have heard of similar happening in iOS7 with PDF attachments sent via 
>> Outlook encrypted message.
>> 
>> It could have something to do with how these 'problem' PDFs were generated.
>> How did you open the attachments the first time, what app did you 'Open In'?
>> 
>> I'll give it more thought and get back to you if I can suggest anything 
>> useful to try.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 1:54 pm, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni - I was hoping you’d come on board.
>>> 
>>> Maybe if I’d “Saved the Attachments” when right clicking on them when the 
>>> icon first appeared that would have solved the problem as they would have 
>>> been saved to my hard drive. But I can’t do that now - there’s nothing I 
>>> can do with the 
>>> 
>>> The files are pdf ones.
>>> 
>>> Yes, the email I’m referring to was from a Windows machine, but most of the 
>>> emails I receive with attachments are from Windows machines and this only 
>>> happens with some of them. 
>>> 
>>> I’ve searched the web many times over the past few days but don’t see any 
>>> reference to the problem. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Graham 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 1:43 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Graham,
>>>> 
>>>> So you can't open these attachments a second time in Mail on your Macs & 
>>>> your iDevices?
>>>> What if you 'Save the Attachments' can you then open them many times?
>>>> 
>>>> What type of Files are the attachments... and what is their file extension?
>>>> Example: .doc , .docx, .ppt, .jpg .png 
>>>> Are the files from Windows users?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 5:22 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m using Apple Mail.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A restart does not solve the problem. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The email attachments appear on all devices as shown i.e. iPhone, 
>>>>> desktop, laptop and iPad. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham 
>>>>>> On 26 Jan 2017, at 10:04 pm, Rob Phillips <rphillips6...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Which email program are you using?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is it still occurring after a restart?
>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 26/1/17 8:47 pm, Graham Rabe wrote:
>>>>>>> When receiving an email with an attachment - from only some senders  - 
>>>>>>> I can initially open the attachment. But when I go back to the email a 
>>>>>>> second time to open the attachment, the attachment is now a file name 
>>>>>>> in blue between brackets . 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Clicking on that does nothing at all. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How can I re-open the attachment?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Graham Rabe
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> iMac late 2012
>>>>>>> macOS Sierra 10.12.2
>>>>>>> 
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Re: Attachments to incoming mail in Mail not able to be opened second time

2017-01-29 Thread Graham Rabe

Hi Ronni,

There are now no check-mark and lock items at the top of the message but I 
cannot say whether they were initially there prior to me clicking on the 
attachments.

I have asked the sender to send the email to me again with the attachments to 
see whether there is anything there that could help us work out what’s going on.

I hope to get back to you shortly - am awaiting their response. 

Cheers,

Graham 
> On 29 Jan 2017, at 7:17 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Graham,
> 
> Is the received attachment in an encrypted message (check-mark and lock icons 
> at the top of the message)... S/MIME Encrypted Mail?
> I have heard of similar happening in iOS7 with PDF attachments sent via 
> Outlook encrypted message.
> 
> It could have something to do with how these 'problem' PDFs were generated.
> How did you open the attachments the first time, what app did you 'Open In'?
> 
> I'll give it more thought and get back to you if I can suggest anything 
> useful to try.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 27 Jan 2017, at 1:54 pm, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au 
> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni - I was hoping you’d come on board.
>> 
>> Maybe if I’d “Saved the Attachments” when right clicking on them when the 
>> icon first appeared that would have solved the problem as they would have 
>> been saved to my hard drive. But I can’t do that now - there’s nothing I can 
>> do with the 
>> 
>> The files are pdf ones.
>> 
>> Yes, the email I’m referring to was from a Windows machine, but most of the 
>> emails I receive with attachments are from Windows machines and this only 
>> happens with some of them. 
>> 
>> I’ve searched the web many times over the past few days but don’t see any 
>> reference to the problem. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Graham 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 1:43 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Graham,
>>> 
>>> So you can't open these attachments a second time in Mail on your Macs & 
>>> your iDevices?
>>> What if you 'Save the Attachments' can you then open them many times?
>>> 
>>> What type of Files are the attachments... and what is their file extension?
>>> Example: .doc , .docx, .ppt, .jpg .png 
>>> Are the files from Windows users?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 5:22 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au 
>>> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m using Apple Mail.
>>>> 
>>>> A restart does not solve the problem. 
>>>> 
>>>> The email attachments appear on all devices as shown i.e. iPhone, desktop, 
>>>> laptop and iPad. 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Graham 
>>>>> On 26 Jan 2017, at 10:04 pm, Rob Phillips <rphillips6...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:rphillips6...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which email program are you using?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is it still occurring after a restart?
>>>>> Rob
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 26/1/17 8:47 pm, Graham Rabe wrote:
>>>>>> When receiving an email with an attachment - from only some senders  - I 
>>>>>> can initially open the attachment. But when I go back to the email a 
>>>>>> second time to open the attachment, the attachment is now a file name in 
>>>>>> blue between brackets . 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Clicking on that does nothing at all. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How can I re-open the attachment?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Graham Rabe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> iMac late 2012
>>>>>> macOS Sierra 10.12.2
>>>>>> 
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Re: Attachments to incoming mail in Mail not able to be opened second time

2017-01-28 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Graham,

Is the received attachment in an encrypted message (check-mark and lock icons 
at the top of the message)... S/MIME Encrypted Mail?
I have heard of similar happening in iOS7 with PDF attachments sent via Outlook 
encrypted message.

It could have something to do with how these 'problem' PDFs were generated.
How did you open the attachments the first time, what app did you 'Open In'?

I'll give it more thought and get back to you if I can suggest anything useful 
to try.

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 27 Jan 2017, at 1:54 pm, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni - I was hoping you’d come on board.
> 
> Maybe if I’d “Saved the Attachments” when right clicking on them when the 
> icon first appeared that would have solved the problem as they would have 
> been saved to my hard drive. But I can’t do that now - there’s nothing I can 
> do with the 
> 
> The files are pdf ones.
> 
> Yes, the email I’m referring to was from a Windows machine, but most of the 
> emails I receive with attachments are from Windows machines and this only 
> happens with some of them. 
> 
> I’ve searched the web many times over the past few days but don’t see any 
> reference to the problem. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham 
> 
> 
>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 1:43 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Graham,
>> 
>> So you can't open these attachments a second time in Mail on your Macs & 
>> your iDevices?
>> What if you 'Save the Attachments' can you then open them many times?
>> 
>> What type of Files are the attachments... and what is their file extension?
>> Example: .doc , .docx, .ppt, .jpg .png 
>> Are the files from Windows users?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Jan 2017, at 5:22 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Rob,
>>> 
>>> I’m using Apple Mail.
>>> 
>>> A restart does not solve the problem. 
>>> 
>>> The email attachments appear on all devices as shown i.e. iPhone, desktop, 
>>> laptop and iPad. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Graham 
>>>> On 26 Jan 2017, at 10:04 pm, Rob Phillips <rphillips6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Which email program are you using?
>>>> 
>>>> Is it still occurring after a restart?
>>>> Rob
>>>> 
>>>>> On 26/1/17 8:47 pm, Graham Rabe wrote:
>>>>> When receiving an email with an attachment - from only some senders  - I 
>>>>> can initially open the attachment. But when I go back to the email a 
>>>>> second time to open the attachment, the attachment is now a file name in 
>>>>> blue between brackets . 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Clicking on that does nothing at all. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> How can I re-open the attachment?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham Rabe
>>>>> 
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Re: Attachments to incoming mail in Mail not able to be opened second time

2017-01-26 Thread Graham Rabe

Hi Ronni - I was hoping you’d come on board.

Maybe if I’d “Saved the Attachments” when right clicking on them when the icon 
first appeared that would have solved the problem as they would have been saved 
to my hard drive. But I can’t do that now - there’s nothing I can do with the 

The files are pdf ones.

Yes, the email I’m referring to was from a Windows machine, but most of the 
emails I receive with attachments are from Windows machines and this only 
happens with some of them. 

I’ve searched the web many times over the past few days but don’t see any 
reference to the problem. 

Cheers,

Graham 

> On 27 Jan 2017, at 1:43 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Graham,
> 
> So you can't open these attachments a second time in Mail on your Macs & your 
> iDevices?
> What if you 'Save the Attachments' can you then open them many times?
> 
> What type of Files are the attachments... and what is their file extension?
> Example: .doc , .docx, .ppt, .jpg .png 
> Are the files from Windows users?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 27 Jan 2017, at 5:22 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au 
> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Rob,
>> 
>> I’m using Apple Mail.
>> 
>> A restart does not solve the problem. 
>> 
>> The email attachments appear on all devices as shown i.e. iPhone, desktop, 
>> laptop and iPad. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Graham 
>>> On 26 Jan 2017, at 10:04 pm, Rob Phillips <rphillips6...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:rphillips6...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Which email program are you using?
>>> 
>>> Is it still occurring after a restart?
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> On 26/1/17 8:47 pm, Graham Rabe wrote:
>>>> When receiving an email with an attachment - from only some senders  - I 
>>>> can initially open the attachment. But when I go back to the email a 
>>>> second time to open the attachment, the attachment is now a file name in 
>>>> blue between brackets . 
>>>> 
>>>> Clicking on that does nothing at all. 
>>>> 
>>>> How can I re-open the attachment?
>>>> 
>>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, 
>>>> 
>>>> Graham Rabe
>>>> 
>>>> iMac late 2012
>>>> macOS Sierra 10.12.2
>>>> 
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Re: Attachments to incoming mail in Mail not able to be opened second time

2017-01-26 Thread Ronda Brown

Hello Graham,

So you can't open these attachments a second time in Mail on your Macs & your 
iDevices?
What if you 'Save the Attachments' can you then open them many times?

What type of Files are the attachments... and what is their file extension?
Example: .doc , .docx, .ppt, .jpg .png 
Are the files from Windows users?

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 27 Jan 2017, at 5:22 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> I’m using Apple Mail.
> 
> A restart does not solve the problem. 
> 
> The email attachments appear on all devices as shown i.e. iPhone, desktop, 
> laptop and iPad. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham 
>> On 26 Jan 2017, at 10:04 pm, Rob Phillips <rphillips6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Which email program are you using?
>> 
>> Is it still occurring after a restart?
>> Rob
>> 
>>> On 26/1/17 8:47 pm, Graham Rabe wrote:
>>> When receiving an email with an attachment - from only some senders  - I 
>>> can initially open the attachment. But when I go back to the email a second 
>>> time to open the attachment, the attachment is now a file name in blue 
>>> between brackets . 
>>> 
>>> Clicking on that does nothing at all. 
>>> 
>>> How can I re-open the attachment?
>>> 
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> 
>>> Graham Rabe
>>> 
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>>> macOS Sierra 10.12.2
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Re: Attachments to incoming mail in Mail not able to be opened second time

2017-01-26 Thread Graham Rabe

Hi Rob,

I’m using Apple Mail.

A restart does not solve the problem. 

The email attachments appear on all devices as shown i.e. iPhone, desktop, 
laptop and iPad. 

Cheers,

Graham 
> On 26 Jan 2017, at 10:04 pm, Rob Phillips <rphillips6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Which email program are you using?
> 
> Is it still occurring after a restart?
> Rob
> 
> On 26/1/17 8:47 pm, Graham Rabe wrote:
>> When receiving an email with an attachment - from only some senders  - I can 
>> initially open the attachment. But when I go back to the email a second time 
>> to open the attachment, the attachment is now a file name in blue between 
>> brackets . 
>> 
>> Clicking on that does nothing at all. 
>> 
>> How can I re-open the attachment?
>> 
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Graham Rabe
>> 
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Re: Attachments to incoming mail in Mail not able to be opened second time

2017-01-26 Thread Rob Phillips


Which email program are you using?

Is it still occurring after a restart?
Rob

On 26/1/17 8:47 pm, Graham Rabe wrote:
When receiving an email with an attachment - from only some senders  - 
I can initially open the attachment. But when I go back to the email a 
second time to open the attachment, the attachment is now a file name 
in blue between brackets .


Clicking on that does nothing at all.

How can I re-open the attachment?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Graham Rabe

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Attachments to incoming mail in Mail not able to be opened second time

2017-01-26 Thread Graham Rabe

When receiving an email with an attachment - from only some senders  - I can 
initially open the attachment. But when I go back to the email a second time to 
open the attachment, the attachment is now a file name in blue between brackets 
. 

Clicking on that does nothing at all. 

How can I re-open the attachment?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, 

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Re: Attachments

2016-07-19 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

> On 19 Jul 2016, at 1:34 PM, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> I used to use a software for mail attachments called  ‘Attachment Tamer’ 
> which used to insert an attachment as for example a pdf file, however since 
> upgrading to El Capitan, it no longer works, as the software writer has 
> decided not to continue upgrading it with each new OS. When I now attach a 
> document, it is opened up showing the contents.  When sending numerous 
> attachments ie drawings etc, it becomes a complete mess for the other person 
> who receives the email.  Is there anyway I could attach documents with just 
> their icon showing - eg a pdf file ?  
> 
> Hope that makes sense
> 
> Thanks
> Jewels

If you know your message is going to end being read on a Windows computer, make 
absolutely certain that all your attachments are at the very end of the 
message, below any text of any sort. This where most Windows-based email 
clients expect to find attachment. If you place them anywhere within the text 
they are treated as inline images. If they are pictures they will generally be 
visible within the message but will not be downloadable, but any other file 
types, such as PDFs, will be treated in unpredictable ways, and likewise will 
be available for download.

Ronni’s suggestion will also receive variable treatment. Many Windows systems 
can’t handle folders as attachments.

The only reliable way to send multiple files is to select them as a group in 
Finder, then choose File > Compress x items (where x represents the number of 
items selected). Note that you cannot do this if your selection contains files 
which are already compressed, such as .zip archives, .dmg files and others. 
The resulting .zip file will be created in the same location as your selected 
files. Just drag this file onto your email (to the very bottom of the file!) 
and all will be well. Your recipient will be able to unzip it at their end.

If you want to send your files as separate attachments, but feel more 
comfortable about it, right (or control)-click each one and choose “View As 
Icon” from the contextual menu. Your attachments will appear icons instead of 
showing their content. Note that multi-page PDFs will always appear as icons. 
Single-page PDFs will invariably show their contents by default.

Now, if we were all using Macs we wouldn’t have to worry about any of this, but 
Windows users always say that it’s the Mac that’s doing it wrong...

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Re: Attachments

2016-07-19 Thread Julie Bedford

Many thanks Ronni
I have already tried doing as you suggested and many time my boss is unable to 
open and read.  He has a PC (dare I use that word) and I have to admit
he is not very fluent with computers.  I usually end up having to go back to 
him, separating the files so he can read them.  Saying that though, sometimes
he is able to open the folder and see what’s inside.

I’m gathering then that there is not a way of attaching as I used to.  It is 
also the same when I receive attachments.  Hopefully in the next OS, they will
deal with this.  I think the software writer for Attachment Tamer gave up, as 
Apple are updating their OS so quickly these days.

Thanks again Ronni

Cheers
Jewels

> On 19 Jul 2016, at 3:12 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jewels,
> 
> Why don’t you send a folder containing all the files?
> 
> 1. Create a New Folder on your Desktop. File > New Folder or Command+Shift+N 
> 
> 2. Give the folder a Title and drag& drop the files you wish to send as 
> attachments into the new folder.
> 
> 3. Open Mail - create your message and add the folder containing the files as 
> an attachment.
> 
> You can Get Info (command-i) on the folder before attaching in an email to 
> see what size it is.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
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> 
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> 
>> On 19 Jul 2016, at 1:34 PM, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au 
>> <mailto:jew...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> I used to use a software for mail attachments called  ‘Attachment Tamer’ 
>> which used to insert an attachment as for example a pdf file, however since 
>> upgrading to El Capitan, it no longer works, as the software writer has 
>> decided not to continue upgrading it with each new OS. When I now attach a 
>> document, it is opened up showing the contents.  When sending numerous 
>> attachments ie drawings etc, it becomes a complete mess for the other person 
>> who receives the email.  Is there anyway I could attach documents with just 
>> their icon showing - eg a pdf file ?  
>> 
>> Hope that makes sense
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Jewels
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Attachments

2016-07-19 Thread Ronni Brown

Hi Jewels,

Why don’t you send a folder containing all the files?

1. Create a New Folder on your Desktop. File > New Folder or Command+Shift+N 

2. Give the folder a Title and drag& drop the files you wish to send as 
attachments into the new folder.

3. Open Mail - create your message and add the folder containing the files as 
an attachment.

You can Get Info (command-i) on the folder before attaching in an email to see 
what size it is.

Cheers,
Ronni

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El Capitan OS X 10.11.5

> On 19 Jul 2016, at 1:34 PM, Julie Bedford <jew...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> I used to use a software for mail attachments called  ‘Attachment Tamer’ 
> which used to insert an attachment as for example a pdf file, however since 
> upgrading to El Capitan, it no longer works, as the software writer has 
> decided not to continue upgrading it with each new OS. When I now attach a 
> document, it is opened up showing the contents.  When sending numerous 
> attachments ie drawings etc, it becomes a complete mess for the other person 
> who receives the email.  Is there anyway I could attach documents with just 
> their icon showing - eg a pdf file ?  
> 
> Hope that makes sense
> 
> Thanks
> Jewels
> 
> 


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Fwd: Attachments

2016-07-18 Thread Julie Bedford

Hi
I used to use a software for mail attachments called  ‘Attachment Tamer’ which 
used to insert an attachment as for example a pdf file, however since upgrading 
to El Capitan, it no longer works, as the software writer has decided not to 
continue upgrading it with each new OS. When I now attach a document, it is 
opened up showing the contents.  When sending numerous attachments ie drawings 
etc, it becomes a complete mess for the other person who receives the email.  
Is there anyway I could attach documents with just their icon showing - eg a 
pdf file ?  

Hope that makes sense

Thanks
Jewels

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NOTICE - Mailing list and attachments

2013-05-07 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi All

If you find you're posting to the list and it rejects, it's because the list 
has been slightly adjusted.
Attachments seem to be finding their way back onto the list again, so it's been 
modified to tweak it just right.

So if you post and find it doesn't go through (and you're a paid up member), 
then make sure you're not sending an attachment or some form of formatted 
signature.

Thanks.

Kind regards
Daniel

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iPad:access mail attachments

2013-02-17 Thread Merv Bond

I created a document in Pages and exported it as aWord document to a 
colleague for appraisal.
He said he had sent it back with comments, the comments being linked to 
the appropriate point of insertion in the text.
I received his response by email and took the email using my iPad 2 (iOS 
5.1.1; Pages 1.7.1). I double clicked on the document image in his email 
and it opened in what I assumed (perhaps incorrectly), that the document 
was opened in Pages. No changes were visible !!

I downloaded the email on my iMac, double clicked the attachment, and it 
opened in Pages with the changes clearly marked.

Because the promo for Pages stated tracking was now part its attributes 
I assumed (not again!!), that the Pages document would show tracking.

Is there an alternative way to access an attachment on iPad so that I 
know I am using pages, not an iOS text application, and perhaps see the 
recommended changes?

Advice appreciated.
Merv
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Re: iPad:access mail attachments

2013-02-17 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Merv,

On your iPad If you do not want the attachment to open in Quick Look, just tap
and hold your finger on the attachment. A pop-up menu will appear with a number
of button options.

Tapping on ‘Quick Look’ will open the file in the standard viewer.
Tap on ‘Open In “app name” to open the attachment in a pre-selected other app.
Tapping on ‘Open In…’ will show you a new menu with buttons.
Each button has an apps icon and name next to it.
Tap on a button to open the attachment in the required app.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 17/02/2013, at 8:24 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote:

I created a document in Pages and exported it as aWord document to a
colleague for appraisal.
He said he had sent it back with comments, the comments being linked to
the appropriate point of insertion in the text.
I received his response by email and took the email using my iPad 2 (iOS
5.1.1; Pages 1.7.1). I double clicked on the document image in his email
and it opened in what I assumed (perhaps incorrectly), that the document
was opened in Pages. No changes were visible !!

I downloaded the email on my iMac, double clicked the attachment, and it
opened in Pages with the changes clearly marked.

Because the promo for Pages stated tracking was now part its attributes
I assumed (not again!!), that the Pages document would show tracking.

Is there an alternative way to access an attachment on iPad so that I
know I am using pages, not an iOS text application, and perhaps see the
recommended changes?

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Re: iPad:access mail attachments

2013-02-17 Thread Merv Bond

Hi Ronni
Worked a treat.
Now opened all sorts of possibilities with tracking of changes being
available in the latest iPad version of Pages and the ability to export
as a Word document with a high level of confidence in compatibility.
Thank you.
Merv

On 17/02/13 8:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
Hi Merv,

On your iPad If you do not want the attachment to open in Quick Look, just
tap and hold your finger on the attachment. A pop-up menu will appear with a
number of button options.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 17/02/2013, at 8:24 PM, Merv Bond m...@iinet.net.au wrote:

I downloaded the email on my iMac, double clicked the attachment, and it
opened in Pages with the changes clearly marked.

Because the promo for Pages stated tracking was now part its attributes
I assumed (not again!!), that the Pages document would show tracking.

Is there an alternative way to access an attachment on iPad so that I
know I am using pages, not an iOS text application, and perhaps see the
recommended changes?

Advice appreciated.
Merv
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Re: Mail attachments

2013-02-14 Thread Stuart Breden

Now that was interesting on my birthday.

Was something I wanted to ask as well.

Stuart Breden
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On 03/02/2013, at 1:03 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

 Hi Tim,
 
 Thanks for your help on the Mailing list we appreciate it. And like you I get 
 frustrated when people don't reply back to the list.
 
 Attachments in Lion were saved to ~/Library/Mail Downloads.
 But under Mountain Lion, Mail is now sandboxed, and the new path is 
 ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 
 
 But this is only Attachments from Incoming Messages, Stuart wants to know how 
 to delete attachments from Outgoing (Sent) Messages.
 Stuart could either do what I suggest below to set up a Rule to delete 
 attachments from Sent Messages in all his Accounts Sent Mailboxes.
 
 To Bulk Remove Attachments from Sent Messages:
 1. Open Sent Mailbox
 2. Go to View  Sort By - Attachments - Descending
 3. Scroll to the last message that has attachments (Paper clip)
 4. Select the last message and Shift-Click on the first message (to select 
 all the sent messages that have attachments)
 5. Go to 'Message'  Remove Attachments
 
 Otherwise set up a Rule to preform such an action. I have not got time at 
 present to give instructions how to setup this rule.
 If I find some time perhaps I will.
 =
 
 Where Attachments Live and How to Delete Them
 
 When you receive a message with attachments, Mail stores the raw source of 
 the attachments inside the .emlx message file, and keeps a separate copy of 
 the attachment alongside the message file in an Attachments folder (both are 
 buried deep within ~/Library/ Mail/V2/). 
 
 If you remove attachments from a selected message (by choosing Message  
 Remove Attachments), Mail modifies the .emlx file on disk that contains the 
 message and also deletes the separate attachment file.
 
 However, Mail also stores yet another copy of a downloaded attachment—in its 
 original format—in a separate folder (~/Library/ Mail Downloads) if you open 
 the attachment from within Mail (for example, by clicking the attachment icon 
 or using Quick Look). 
 
 Removing attachments from a message doesn’t delete them from this folder! 
 Deleting an entire message does—but only after you quit Mail.
 
 You can choose when Mail deletes attachment copies in the Mail Downloads 
 folder with the 'Remove Unedited Downloads' pop-up menu on the General 
 preference pane. 
 Choose Never to retain the files indefinitely, or When Mail Quits to delete 
 them when you quit Mail.
 =
 Tip: After you save an attachment, you may want to remove it from the message 
 (that is, unless you plan to delete the message anyway). 
 To do so, choose Message  Remove Attachments.
 ==
 Migrating Mail from Lion to Mountain Lion leaves behind a folder containing 
 previous attachments. 
 
 Attachments in Lion were saved to ~/Library/Mail Downloads, but under 
 Mountain Lion, Mail is now sandboxed, and the new path is 
 ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 
 
 During the upgrade, the folder contents are copied from the old location to 
 the new, so the old location can be deleted to save some space. 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 03/02/2013, at 11:38 AM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:
 
 Stuart,
 
 At http://kb.mit.edu/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4259946 I found
 The Attachments folder is located in your user home directory in one of the 
 following locations (depending on what version you're running):
 
 Users/Username/Library/Mail Downloads
 
 Users/Username/Library/Mail/Mail Downloads
 
 
 I recall some previous posts to the WAMUG  about these being deleted each 
 time you quit Mail.app, but like everything I say, I might not be right. 
 
 If you see a bunch of files in the folder after you have quit and restarted 
 Mail.app, does not a Select All (Command A) then Delete work???
 
 Love to know if any of my helpful hints are working for you Stuart. If not, 
 I'll get back to what I was doing.  Not complaining mind you. I like helping 
 people out, but when I never hear back I get kinda weary of giving without  
 return. 
 
 Tim
 
 
 
 On 03/02/2013, at 10:27 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Stuart,
 
 It would be polite if you replied back to the mailing list re: the emails 
 you sent last Sunday and we gave suggestions... before you ask more 
 questions.
 
 I'll answer this new question at some time, but need to know what OS X 
 version are you using and Mail client (I presume Apple Mail)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 03/02/2013, at 10:07 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:
 
 When you send an attachment in an e-mail it goes into a folder in the 
 Library.
 
 Is there an easy way of deleting them all on one occasion?
 
 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
 Ph: (08) 9257 1577
 Mbl: 0417 053 266
 
 Please

Mail attachments

2013-02-02 Thread Stuart Breden

When you send an attachment in an e-mail it goes into a folder in the Library.

Is there an easy way of deleting them all on one occasion?

Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266

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Re: Mail attachments

2013-02-02 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Stuart,

It would be polite if you replied back to the mailing list re: the emails you 
sent last Sunday and we gave suggestions... before you ask more questions.

I'll answer this new question at some time, but need to know what OS X version 
are you using and Mail client (I presume Apple Mail)

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 03/02/2013, at 10:07 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:

 When you send an attachment in an e-mail it goes into a folder in the Library.
 
 Is there an easy way of deleting them all on one occasion?
 
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Re: Mail attachments

2013-02-02 Thread Tim Law

Stuart,

At http://kb.mit.edu/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4259946 I found
 The Attachments folder is located in your user home directory in one of the 
 following locations (depending on what version you're running):
 
 Users/Username/Library/Mail Downloads
 
 Users/Username/Library/Mail/Mail Downloads


I recall some previous posts to the WAMUG  about these being deleted each time 
you quit Mail.app, but like everything I say, I might not be right. 

If you see a bunch of files in the folder after you have quit and restarted 
Mail.app, does not a Select All (Command A) then Delete work???

Love to know if any of my helpful hints are working for you Stuart. If not, 
I'll get back to what I was doing.  Not complaining mind you. I like helping 
people out, but when I never hear back I get kinda weary of giving without  
return. 

Tim



On 03/02/2013, at 10:27 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Stuart,
 
 It would be polite if you replied back to the mailing list re: the emails you 
 sent last Sunday and we gave suggestions... before you ask more questions.
 
 I'll answer this new question at some time, but need to know what OS X 
 version are you using and Mail client (I presume Apple Mail)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 03/02/2013, at 10:07 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:
 
 When you send an attachment in an e-mail it goes into a folder in the 
 Library.
 
 Is there an easy way of deleting them all on one occasion?
 
 Stuart Breden
 PO Box 132
 Kalamunda WA 6926
 Ph: (08) 9257 1577
 Mbl: 0417 053 266
 
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Re: Mail attachments

2013-02-02 Thread Ronni Brown

Hi Tim,

Thanks for your help on the Mailing list we appreciate it. And like you I get
frustrated when people don't reply back to the list.

Attachments in Lion were saved to ~/Library/Mail Downloads.
But under Mountain Lion, Mail is now sandboxed, and the new path is
~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads.

But this is only Attachments from Incoming Messages, Stuart wants to know how
to delete attachments from Outgoing (Sent) Messages.
Stuart could either do what I suggest below to set up a Rule to delete
attachments from Sent Messages in all his Accounts Sent Mailboxes.

To Bulk Remove Attachments from Sent Messages:
1. Open Sent Mailbox
2. Go to View Sort By - Attachments - Descending
3. Scroll to the last message that has attachments (Paper clip)
4. Select the last message and Shift-Click on the first message (to select all
the sent messages that have attachments)
5. Go to 'Message' Remove Attachments

Otherwise set up a Rule to preform such an action. I have not got time at
present to give instructions how to setup this rule.
If I find some time perhaps I will.
=

Where Attachments Live and How to Delete Them

When you receive a message with attachments, Mail stores the raw source of the
attachments inside the .emlx message file, and keeps a separate copy of the
attachment alongside the message file in an Attachments folder (both are buried
deep within ~/Library/ Mail/V2/).

If you remove attachments from a selected message (by choosing Message Remove
Attachments), Mail modifies the .emlx file on disk that contains the message
and also deletes the separate attachment file.

However, Mail also stores yet another copy of a downloaded attachment—in its
original format—in a separate folder (~/Library/ Mail Downloads) if you open
the attachment from within Mail (for example, by clicking the attachment icon
or using Quick Look).

Removing attachments from a message doesn’t delete them from this folder!
Deleting an entire message does—but only after you quit Mail.

You can choose when Mail deletes attachment copies in the Mail Downloads folder
with the 'Remove Unedited Downloads' pop-up menu on the General preference
pane.
Choose Never to retain the files indefinitely, or When Mail Quits to delete
them when you quit Mail.
=
Tip: After you save an attachment, you may want to remove it from the message
(that is, unless you plan to delete the message anyway).
To do so, choose Message Remove Attachments.
==
Migrating Mail from Lion to Mountain Lion leaves behind a folder containing
previous attachments.

Attachments in Lion were saved to ~/Library/Mail Downloads, but under Mountain
Lion, Mail is now sandboxed, and the new path is
~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads.

During the upgrade, the folder contents are copied from the old location to the
new, so the old location can be deleted to save some space.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 03/02/2013, at 11:38 AM, Tim Law t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:

Stuart,

At http://kb.mit.edu/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4259946 I found
The Attachments folder is located in your user home directory in one of the
following locations (depending on what version you're running):

Users/Username/Library/Mail Downloads

Users/Username/Library/Mail/Mail Downloads

I recall some previous posts to the WAMUG about these being deleted each
time you quit Mail.app, but like everything I say, I might not be right.

If you see a bunch of files in the folder after you have quit and restarted
Mail.app, does not a Select All (Command A) then Delete work???

Love to know if any of my helpful hints are working for you Stuart. If not,
I'll get back to what I was doing. Not complaining mind you. I like helping
people out, but when I never hear back I get kinda weary of giving without
return.

Tim

On 03/02/2013, at 10:27 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

Hi Stuart,

It would be polite if you replied back to the mailing list re: the emails
you sent last Sunday and we gave suggestions... before you ask more
questions.

I'll answer this new question at some time, but need to know what OS X
version are you using and Mail client (I presume Apple Mail)

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 03/02/2013, at 10:07 AM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:

When you send an attachment in an e-mail it goes into a folder in the
Library.

Is there an easy way of deleting them all on one occasion?

Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266

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Interesting re embedded email attachments

2012-09-06 Thread Stephen Chape

I tried emailing 2 attachments to myself (in one email).

Although one is embedded and one is not, they are both available as attachments.
That is when I received them, if I click the little arrow at the top left of 
the email, they are both there as file attachments.

So either that issue is somehow related to MS Windows or some Windows receivers 
don't know how to use their email correctly (in relation to attachments).

Regards,
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Re: Interesting re embedded email attachments

2012-09-06 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi Stephen

If you also attach something to an email, if you right click (or Control click 
on a laptop) on it (i.e. the attachment or the embedded file) , you also get a 
drop down menu with a choice to change between View in Place (i.e. embedded) 
or View as icon (i.e. attachment). You can flip between the two, so if it was 
embedded it will make it an icon (attachment), and vice versa.

This can sometimes help the poor Windows users :o)
Though sometimes, it doesn't matter what you do, as like you mention, Windows 
(or even their mail server) can do weird and wonderful things with the 
attachments and files.

Hope that helps as well.

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 06/09/2012, at 9:29 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:

 I tried emailing 2 attachments to myself (in one email).
 
 Although one is embedded and one is not, they are both available as 
 attachments.
 That is when I received them, if I click the little arrow at the top left of 
 the email, they are both there as file attachments.
 
 So either that issue is somehow related to MS Windows or some Windows 
 receivers don't know how to use their email correctly (in relation to 
 attachments).
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
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Re: Interesting re embedded email attachments

2012-09-06 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 06/09/2012, at 9:29 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:

 I tried emailing 2 attachments to myself (in one email).
 
 Although one is embedded and one is not, they are both available as 
 attachments.
 That is when I received them, if I click the little arrow at the top left of 
 the email, they are both there as file attachments.
 
 So either that issue is somehow related to MS Windows or some Windows 
 receivers don't know how to use their email correctly (in relation to 
 attachments).
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 

Yes, how emails are received is entirely up to the receiving email client. If 
you send a nicely formatted HTML email and your recipient has HTML turned off 
in their client, all they will see is the raw HTML code of your message. If you 
embed an attachment, and their client does not handle embedded attachments 
(which in my experience is pretty much any Windows email client) then they 
won't be able to deal with what you have sent them. It's not necessarily user 
error (apart from the fact that they're using Windows). There's just not much 
they can do about it apart from blaming you for using a Mac. Just take pity on 
them and put your attachments at the end of your message. Or send them a movie 
clip showing them how easy it all is on a Mac   :-)

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: Interesting re embedded email attachments

2012-09-06 Thread Carlo Margio

I like your new category of user error, Peter.

On 07/09/2012, at 7:56 AM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:

  It's not necessarily user error (apart from the fact that they're using 
 Windows). 


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Re: Embedded attachments in Mail

2012-09-04 Thread Stephen Chape

Thank you Ronda, Susan  Alex.
I will try those options later tonight and see how I go.


On 03/09/2012, at 7:49 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Stephen,
 
 You don't mention what OS X you are using, I take it you are using Apple Mail.
 Send the attachments as .zip files. Always include file extensions at the end 
 of a file's name (.pdf, .doc, .jpg etc. Always use Windows-Friendly format.
 
 Try sending attachments in Plain Text format messages.
 
 Using Plain Text vs RTF has dramatic impact to how the message is coded, and 
 then for certain receiving email clients, such as Outlook and Outlook Express 
 may be problematic, especially if the user is not really skillful in such 
 matters. 
 
 To see the difference, observe messages sent in each format by opening them 
 in the Sent mailbox, clicking on View in the menubar, placing your cursor on 
 Message in the resulting pull-down and choosing Raw Source. 
 With those in RTF, you will note lots of HTML looking code, and if an 
 attachment is present, the receiving email client seems to miss the header 
 that is in front of every attachment.
 
 Those particular MS email clients don't handle Rich Text Format well, and if 
 they send with it, it is in a proprietary version that other email clients 
 have trouble with.
 
 Try using Plain Text first.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 03/09/2012, at 6:53 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 Does anyone know how to change this ?
 
 When I send attachments, sometimes the file is embedded in the body of the 
 email rather than an attachment.
 
 Some of my friends (Window users I think) have complained that when they are 
 embedded they are unable to copy the file from the email (for example to 
 desktop).
 
 I have noticed (I think) that this happens with small files whereas larger 
 files go as attachments.
 But I don't know what file size is the break point so to speak.
 
 Is there something in Mail that enables this to be changed ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
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Re: Embedded attachments in Mail

2012-09-04 Thread Stephen Chape

Thank you Peter for your detailed reply.
I read it several times and now have some understanding of how this works.
It is something that very infrequently concerns me.
However it has only just raised its head again because a Windows using friend 
seems to think the issue belongs to me (and my Mac).

The only criteria that I have not covered is that of placing attachments at the 
very end of messages.
Out of curiosity does the size of the attachment make any difference ?


On 04/09/2012, at 8:05 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 
 On 03/09/2012, at 11:57 PM, Alex aln...@highway1.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen
 
 I used to be annoyed about this myself previously, which was the main  
 reason I didn't use Mail (until Eudora died one time).  However I  
 spoke to Peter at a WAMUG meeting one night  he explained to me that  
 the attachment still goes out as an attachment even though we see it  
 as being embedded in the email.  I have sent quite a few attachments  
 lately, one being an individual 172 kb screen dump sent by itself  in  
 my email screen it is embedded but I can see it as an attachment as  
 well when I open it from the Sent Box.  Then again I have looked at  
 another attachment which is only 80.5 kb  that only appears as an  
 attachment icon - not embedded!  I seem to think that I remember Peter  
 also saying that there was somewhere you could turn off this  
 embeddedness, but I must be wrong about it as I can't find that  
 preference.
 
 I still am a little annoyed about it as I find it a bit of a  
 distraction, but then that's just me.  Have learnt to live with it.   
 (I hope I haven't misquoted Peter)
 
 Cheers,  Alex
 
 
 
 Sometimes we Mac users have to pay a price for OS X making things so easy. If 
 we were only sending attachments to each other this stuff would not be an 
 issue.
 
 As I would have explained to Alex (as I explain to everyone else who 
 listens), the only thing that email supports is pure text: nothing else. 
 Despite appearances, the email format does not support photos, movies, sound 
 files, PDFs, Word files, or anything else someone might choose to send to 
 you. Email supports only text. This is very important to understand.
 
 The only way that something which is not text can be sent by email is for it 
 also to be converted to text. This is done through a process known as Base-64 
 encoding, and these days that process is extremely fast and completely 
 invisible to the user. Base-64 encoding (or MIME-encoding) basically takes 
 the file you are sending and converts it to a large block of pure text, then 
 adds it to your message. The recipient's email client then decodes the text 
 and converts the text back into its original form, be it a Word file, a 
 photo, a movie, or anything else.
 
 It's something users don't have to think about these days, but it was a 
 different story 15 years ago when this stuff was in its infancy. It was 
 important in early email clients to know which encoding was being used, and 
 who your recipient was. If you encoded your attachment incorrectly it would 
 be unreadable by a recipient who did not have the correct de-coder. 
 
 So, if we understand this fundamental aspect, it really shouldn't matter 
 where in the message we place our attachment: it should still be able to be 
 de-coded by the recipient and handled appropriately. Apple's Mail is a great 
 example of such a client. The problem is that many email clients out there 
 expect the attachment to be at the END of the message, and nowhere else. As 
 noted, it often happens that some clients will know enough about a photo 
 attachment, for example, to be able to display it as an image on the screen, 
 but bot enough to allow it to be detached from the message, so it remains 
 embedded.
 
 The only reliable way to handle attachments therefore, especially when you're 
 sending to Windows recipients, is to make sure that they are at the very 
 bottom of the message, below your signature, below every other bit of text. 
 It can also help, of your recipient is still having problems, to enclose your 
 attachment in a .zip wrapper before sending it. I have one regular recipient 
 who cannot receive a simple text file unless it is zipped first.
 
 The frustrating thing about all of this is that it is the Mac which ends up 
 with the poor reputation! In fact, is the sad development cycle of most email 
 clients out there that has prevented them from growing up beyond their 
 original early '90s behaviour in handling attachments.
 
 So...if you want you make your life with attachments easy, remember a few 
 simple rules
 
 1. Always send Windows-friendly attachments (in Apple's Mail, go Edit  
 Attachments  Send Windows-Friendly Attachments - this helps with the 
 de-coding at the other end)
 
 2. Always put attachments at the very end of your message (unless you know 
 your recipient has a Mac)
 
 3.  Send as a Zip archive if necessary (also helps reduce the size

Re: Embedded attachments in Mail

2012-09-04 Thread Alex

Hi Stephen

my evidence seems to show that it may be random?!  The smaller  
attachment was embedded  icon, the larger was icon only (see below) -  
I would have thought it would be the other way around.  There have  
been other times when I have sent multiple attachmentts where some  
were embedded  some were icons/both.

Cheers,  Alex

On 04/09/2012, at 3:51 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:

 Thank you Peter for your detailed reply.
 I read it several times and now have some understanding of how this  
 works.
 It is something that very infrequently concerns me.
 However it has only just raised its head again because a Windows  
 using friend seems to think the issue belongs to me (and my Mac).

 The only criteria that I have not covered is that of placing  
 attachments at the very end of messages.
 Out of curiosity does the size of the attachment make any difference ?


 On 04/09/2012, at 8:05 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:


 On 03/09/2012, at 11:57 PM, Alex aln...@highway1.com.au wrote:

 Hi Stephen

 I used to be annoyed about this myself previously, which was the  
 main
 reason I didn't use Mail (until Eudora died one time).  However I
 spoke to Peter at a WAMUG meeting one night  he explained to me  
 that
 the attachment still goes out as an attachment even though we see it
 as being embedded in the email.  I have sent quite a few attachments
 lately, one being an individual 172 kb screen dump sent by itself  
  in
 my email screen it is embedded but I can see it as an attachment as
 well when I open it from the Sent Box.  Then again I have looked at
 another attachment which is only 80.5 kb  that only appears as an
 attachment icon - not embedded!  I seem to think that I remember  
 Peter
 also saying that there was somewhere you could turn off this
 embeddedness, but I must be wrong about it as I can't find that
 preference.

 I still am a little annoyed about it as I find it a bit of a
 distraction, but then that's just me.  Have learnt to live with it.
 (I hope I haven't misquoted Peter)

 Cheers,  Alex



 Sometimes we Mac users have to pay a price for OS X making things  
 so easy. If we were only sending attachments to each other this  
 stuff would not be an issue.

 As I would have explained to Alex (as I explain to everyone else  
 who listens), the only thing that email supports is pure text:  
 nothing else. Despite appearances, the email format does not  
 support photos, movies, sound files, PDFs, Word files, or anything  
 else someone might choose to send to you. Email supports only text.  
 This is very important to understand.

 The only way that something which is not text can be sent by email  
 is for it also to be converted to text. This is done through a  
 process known as Base-64 encoding, and these days that process is  
 extremely fast and completely invisible to the user. Base-64  
 encoding (or MIME-encoding) basically takes the file you are  
 sending and converts it to a large block of pure text, then adds it  
 to your message. The recipient's email client then decodes the text  
 and converts the text back into its original form, be it a Word  
 file, a photo, a movie, or anything else.

 It's something users don't have to think about these days, but it  
 was a different story 15 years ago when this stuff was in its  
 infancy. It was important in early email clients to know which  
 encoding was being used, and who your recipient was. If you encoded  
 your attachment incorrectly it would be unreadable by a recipient  
 who did not have the correct de-coder.

 So, if we understand this fundamental aspect, it really shouldn't  
 matter where in the message we place our attachment: it should  
 still be able to be de-coded by the recipient and handled  
 appropriately. Apple's Mail is a great example of such a client.  
 The problem is that many email clients out there expect the  
 attachment to be at the END of the message, and nowhere else. As  
 noted, it often happens that some clients will know enough about a  
 photo attachment, for example, to be able to display it as an image  
 on the screen, but bot enough to allow it to be detached from the  
 message, so it remains embedded.

 The only reliable way to handle attachments therefore, especially  
 when you're sending to Windows recipients, is to make sure that  
 they are at the very bottom of the message, below your signature,  
 below every other bit of text. It can also help, of your recipient  
 is still having problems, to enclose your attachment in a .zip  
 wrapper before sending it. I have one regular recipient who cannot  
 receive a simple text file unless it is zipped first.

 The frustrating thing about all of this is that it is the Mac which  
 ends up with the poor reputation! In fact, is the sad development  
 cycle of most email clients out there that has prevented them from  
 growing up beyond their original early '90s behaviour in handling  
 attachments.

 So...if you want you make your life

Re: Embedded attachments in Mail

2012-09-03 Thread Stephen Chape

Sorry .. the latest version of Snow Leopard.

On 03/09/2012, at 7:49 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Stephen,
 
 You don't mention what OS X you are using, I take it you are using Apple Mail.
 Send the attachments as .zip files. Always include file extensions at the end 
 of a file's name (.pdf, .doc, .jpg etc. Always use Windows-Friendly format.
 
 Try sending attachments in Plain Text format messages.
 
 Using Plain Text vs RTF has dramatic impact to how the message is coded, and 
 then for certain receiving email clients, such as Outlook and Outlook Express 
 may be problematic, especially if the user is not really skillful in such 
 matters. 
 
 To see the difference, observe messages sent in each format by opening them 
 in the Sent mailbox, clicking on View in the menubar, placing your cursor on 
 Message in the resulting pull-down and choosing Raw Source. 
 With those in RTF, you will note lots of HTML looking code, and if an 
 attachment is present, the receiving email client seems to miss the header 
 that is in front of every attachment.
 
 Those particular MS email clients don't handle Rich Text Format well, and if 
 they send with it, it is in a proprietary version that other email clients 
 have trouble with.
 
 Try using Plain Text first.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 03/09/2012, at 6:53 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 Does anyone know how to change this ?
 
 When I send attachments, sometimes the file is embedded in the body of the 
 email rather than an attachment.
 
 Some of my friends (Window users I think) have complained that when they are 
 embedded they are unable to copy the file from the email (for example to 
 desktop).
 
 I have noticed (I think) that this happens with small files whereas larger 
 files go as attachments.
 But I don't know what file size is the break point so to speak.
 
 Is there something in Mail that enables this to be changed ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
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Re: Embedded attachments in Mail

2012-09-03 Thread Susan Hastings

Try Lokiware's 'Attachment Tamer'. I've been using it for years. It sends files 
as attachments rather than in the body of the email from apple mail. Check for 
the version that works with your system software.

Sent from my iPad

On 03/09/2012, at 9:04 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Sorry .. the latest version of Snow Leopard.
 
 On 03/09/2012, at 7:49 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Stephen,
 
 You don't mention what OS X you are using, I take it you are using Apple 
 Mail.
 Send the attachments as .zip files. Always include file extensions at the 
 end of a file's name (.pdf, .doc, .jpg etc. Always use Windows-Friendly 
 format.
 
 Try sending attachments in Plain Text format messages.
 
 Using Plain Text vs RTF has dramatic impact to how the message is coded, and 
 then for certain receiving email clients, such as Outlook and Outlook 
 Express may be problematic, especially if the user is not really skillful in 
 such matters. 
 
 To see the difference, observe messages sent in each format by opening them 
 in the Sent mailbox, clicking on View in the menubar, placing your cursor on 
 Message in the resulting pull-down and choosing Raw Source. 
 With those in RTF, you will note lots of HTML looking code, and if an 
 attachment is present, the receiving email client seems to miss the header 
 that is in front of every attachment.
 
 Those particular MS email clients don't handle Rich Text Format well, and if 
 they send with it, it is in a proprietary version that other email clients 
 have trouble with.
 
 Try using Plain Text first.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 03/09/2012, at 6:53 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 Does anyone know how to change this ?
 
 When I send attachments, sometimes the file is embedded in the body of the 
 email rather than an attachment.
 
 Some of my friends (Window users I think) have complained that when they 
 are embedded they are unable to copy the file from the email (for example 
 to desktop).
 
 I have noticed (I think) that this happens with small files whereas larger 
 files go as attachments.
 But I don't know what file size is the break point so to speak.
 
 Is there something in Mail that enables this to be changed ?
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape
 
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Re: Embedded attachments in Mail

2012-09-03 Thread Alex

Hi Stephen

I used to be annoyed about this myself previously, which was the main  
reason I didn't use Mail (until Eudora died one time).  However I  
spoke to Peter at a WAMUG meeting one night  he explained to me that  
the attachment still goes out as an attachment even though we see it  
as being embedded in the email.  I have sent quite a few attachments  
lately, one being an individual 172 kb screen dump sent by itself  in  
my email screen it is embedded but I can see it as an attachment as  
well when I open it from the Sent Box.  Then again I have looked at  
another attachment which is only 80.5 kb  that only appears as an  
attachment icon - not embedded!  I seem to think that I remember Peter  
also saying that there was somewhere you could turn off this  
embeddedness, but I must be wrong about it as I can't find that  
preference.

I still am a little annoyed about it as I find it a bit of a  
distraction, but then that's just me.  Have learnt to live with it.   
(I hope I haven't misquoted Peter)

Cheers,  Alex

On 03/09/2012, at 9:04 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:

 Sorry .. the latest version of Snow Leopard.

 On 03/09/2012, at 7:49 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Stephen,

 You don't mention what OS X you are using, I take it you are using  
 Apple Mail.
 Send the attachments as .zip files. Always include file extensions  
 at the end of a file's name (.pdf, .doc, .jpg etc. Always use  
 Windows-Friendly format.

 Try sending attachments in Plain Text format messages.

 Using Plain Text vs RTF has dramatic impact to how the message is  
 coded, and then for certain receiving email clients, such as  
 Outlook and Outlook Express may be problematic, especially if the  
 user is not really skillful in such matters.

 To see the difference, observe messages sent in each format by  
 opening them in the Sent mailbox, clicking on View in the menubar,  
 placing your cursor on Message in the resulting pull-down and  
 choosing Raw Source.
 With those in RTF, you will note lots of HTML looking code, and if  
 an attachment is present, the receiving email client seems to miss  
 the header that is in front of every attachment.

 Those particular MS email clients don't handle Rich Text Format  
 well, and if they send with it, it is in a proprietary version that  
 other email clients have trouble with.

 Try using Plain Text first.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad

 On 03/09/2012, at 6:53 PM, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Does anyone know how to change this ?

 When I send attachments, sometimes the file is embedded in the  
 body of the email rather than an attachment.

 Some of my friends (Window users I think) have complained that  
 when they are embedded they are unable to copy the file from the  
 email (for example to desktop).

 I have noticed (I think) that this happens with small files  
 whereas larger files go as attachments.
 But I don't know what file size is the break point so to speak.

 Is there something in Mail that enables this to be changed ?

 Regards,
 Stephen Chape

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Re: Embedded attachments in Mail

2012-09-03 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 03/09/2012, at 11:57 PM, Alex aln...@highway1.com.au wrote:

 Hi Stephen
 
 I used to be annoyed about this myself previously, which was the main  
 reason I didn't use Mail (until Eudora died one time).  However I  
 spoke to Peter at a WAMUG meeting one night  he explained to me that  
 the attachment still goes out as an attachment even though we see it  
 as being embedded in the email.  I have sent quite a few attachments  
 lately, one being an individual 172 kb screen dump sent by itself  in  
 my email screen it is embedded but I can see it as an attachment as  
 well when I open it from the Sent Box.  Then again I have looked at  
 another attachment which is only 80.5 kb  that only appears as an  
 attachment icon - not embedded!  I seem to think that I remember Peter  
 also saying that there was somewhere you could turn off this  
 embeddedness, but I must be wrong about it as I can't find that  
 preference.
 
 I still am a little annoyed about it as I find it a bit of a  
 distraction, but then that's just me.  Have learnt to live with it.   
 (I hope I haven't misquoted Peter)
 
 Cheers,  Alex
 
 

Sometimes we Mac users have to pay a price for OS X making things so easy. If 
we were only sending attachments to each other this stuff would not be an issue.

As I would have explained to Alex (as I explain to everyone else who listens), 
the only thing that email supports is pure text: nothing else. Despite 
appearances, the email format does not support photos, movies, sound files, 
PDFs, Word files, or anything else someone might choose to send to you. Email 
supports only text. This is very important to understand.

The only way that something which is not text can be sent by email is for it 
also to be converted to text. This is done through a process known as Base-64 
encoding, and these days that process is extremely fast and completely 
invisible to the user. Base-64 encoding (or MIME-encoding) basically takes the 
file you are sending and converts it to a large block of pure text, then adds 
it to your message. The recipient's email client then decodes the text and 
converts the text back into its original form, be it a Word file, a photo, a 
movie, or anything else.

It's something users don't have to think about these days, but it was a 
different story 15 years ago when this stuff was in its infancy. It was 
important in early email clients to know which encoding was being used, and who 
your recipient was. If you encoded your attachment incorrectly it would be 
unreadable by a recipient who did not have the correct de-coder. 

So, if we understand this fundamental aspect, it really shouldn't matter where 
in the message we place our attachment: it should still be able to be de-coded 
by the recipient and handled appropriately. Apple's Mail is a great example of 
such a client. The problem is that many email clients out there expect the 
attachment to be at the END of the message, and nowhere else. As noted, it 
often happens that some clients will know enough about a photo attachment, for 
example, to be able to display it as an image on the screen, but bot enough to 
allow it to be detached from the message, so it remains embedded.

The only reliable way to handle attachments therefore, especially when you're 
sending to Windows recipients, is to make sure that they are at the very bottom 
of the message, below your signature, below every other bit of text. It can 
also help, of your recipient is still having problems, to enclose your 
attachment in a .zip wrapper before sending it. I have one regular recipient 
who cannot receive a simple text file unless it is zipped first.

The frustrating thing about all of this is that it is the Mac which ends up 
with the poor reputation! In fact, is the sad development cycle of most email 
clients out there that has prevented them from growing up beyond their 
original early '90s behaviour in handling attachments.

So...if you want you make your life with attachments easy, remember a few 
simple rules

1. Always send Windows-friendly attachments (in Apple's Mail, go Edit  
Attachments  Send Windows-Friendly Attachments - this helps with the de-coding 
at the other end)

2. Always put attachments at the very end of your message (unless you know your 
recipient has a Mac)

3.  Send as a Zip archive if necessary (also helps reduce the size of the 
attachment).

Nil bastardo carborundum!

  
Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

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Saving Mail attachments

2012-08-19 Thread Michael Hawkins

I'm using OS 10.7.4 and Mail.

Saving attachments to emails I receive and which I open in Preview frustrates 
me - If I select Save As, nothing seems to happen. But if I select Export, 
I can then select the folder that I want to save the document in.

What mindset ) (or way of thinking) would think that export means Save to 
the folder of your choice on your own computer? There is no logical connection 
that I can think of between saving and sending off somewhere by way of 
international trade (which is what export means to me).

Has Apple started to hire Microsoft programmers to work on Mail?

Regards,

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Re: Saving Mail attachments

2012-08-19 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Michael,

On 20/08/2012, at 7:07 AM, Michael Hawkins michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
wrote:

 I'm using OS 10.7.4 and Mail.
 
 Saving attachments to emails I receive and which I open in Preview frustrates 
 me - If I select Save As, nothing seems to happen. But if I select 
 Export, I can then select the folder that I want to save the document in.

I'm not understanding your problem. Are you referring to saving attachments 
that you receive IN emails to a folder of your choice?
Click on the 'Save' button in the email  in the resulting window select the 
folder you wish to save the attachment to.

Or 'Control-Click' on the image in your message  you receive a few other 
choices: Open Attachment, Open with, Quick look Attachment, Save Attachment, 
Save to Downloads Folder, View in place, Copy Image.

Or you can drag the attachment out of the email into a folder of your choice.
Or Click (and release) the 'Save button' in the header of the message and the 
attachment flies into the Downloads folder instantly.

Mail gives you lots of ways to save attachments.

 What mindset ) (or way of thinking) would think that export means Save to 
 the folder of your choice on your own computer? 
 There is no logical connection that I can think of between saving and sending 
 off somewhere by way of international trade (which is what export means to 
 me).

When a document is opened Preview.app, you can go File  Move To - and select 
the folder you wish to move the file to.
You don't have to 'Export' the file. Export gives you the opportunity to export 
in a different format or use a Quartz filter if you wish to.

 
 Has Apple started to hire Microsoft programmers to work on Mail?

Oh Michael... you really have to be joking now :-))

Cheers,
Ronni

 
 Regards,
 
 Michael Hawkins.

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Re: Mail Downloads folder (for email attachments)

2012-08-17 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi All,

Mail in Mountain Lion also saves attachments in another location as well, which 
is much harder to find and go through to delete attachments, especially if you 
have quite a few email accounts as I do  :-)

When you receive a message with attachments, Mail stores the raw source of the 
attachments inside the .emlx message file, and keeps a separate copy of the 
attachment alongside the message file in an Attachments folder (both are buried 
'very' deep within ~/Library/ Mail/V2/). 

~/Library/Mail/V2/  select 'one' of your Account Folders (if you have more 
than one account)/then... for an example I'll use my AosIMAP-ronni account path:
~/Library/Mail/V2/AosIMAP-ronni/INBOX.mbox/5457B4B6-xxx---etc/Data/then 
you find folders 0 to 9/ and inside each of those 9 folders are other folders/ 
click one folder/ Attachments/then another folder/then 2, 2.1 or 2.2?/ and 
there is an attachment (which I can 'control-click'-move to trash). Start again 
on another folder...  OMG drat this for a joke... Heck leave the attachments 
there, I don't have time to go through all these folders to find any 
attachments to delete. 

If you remove attachments from a selected message (by choosing Message  Remove 
Attachments), Mail modifies the .emlx file on disk that contains the message 
and also deletes the separate attachment file.

With Daniel's hint below with attachments in the Mail Downloads folder, you can 
choose when Mail deletes attachment copies in the Mail Downloads folder with 
the Remove Unedited Downloads pop-up menu on the Mail  Preferences  General 
pane. 
Choose 'Never' to retain the files indefinitely, or 'After Message is Deleted' 
or 'When Mail Quits' to delete them when you quit Mail.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 16/08/2012, at 6:50 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 Hi All
 
 Just a little hint for those that may not be aware.
 
 In previous versions of Mac OS X Mail attachments that got opened from 
 within the email were saved into Mail Downloads folder. This used to live in 
 the ~/Library folder. (And again, in Lion, in the invisible Library folder).
 In Mountain Lion, this got moved to the following location  
 ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 
 
 This folder can take up a bit of space if not cleaned out. So worth a look at 
 to see how many hundreds of files may be there :o)
 (I've just checked mine which I normally clean out fairly regularly  and even 
 in a small amount of time in Mountain Lion there were about 40 files in 
 there).
 
 More information can be found here:-
 http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2012080521491533
 
 Hope that helps others.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
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Mail Downloads folder (for email attachments)

2012-08-16 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi All

Just a little hint for those that may not be aware.

In previous versions of Mac OS X Mail attachments that got opened from within 
the email were saved into Mail Downloads folder. This used to live in the 
~/Library folder. (And again, in Lion, in the invisible Library folder).
In Mountain Lion, this got moved to the following location  
~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 

This folder can take up a bit of space if not cleaned out. So worth a look at 
to see how many hundreds of files may be there :o)
(I've just checked mine which I normally clean out fairly regularly  and even 
in a small amount of time in Mountain Lion there were about 40 files in there).

More information can be found here:-
http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2012080521491533

Hope that helps others.

Kind regards
Daniel

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Re: Mail Downloads folder (for email attachments)

2012-08-16 Thread Curtis Peter

Hi Daniel
Thanks for that info, I presume there is nothing in this file that needs to be 
kept other than for your own reasons?
Regards
Peter

On 16/08/2012, at 6:50 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 Hi All
 
 Just a little hint for those that may not be aware.
 
 In previous versions of Mac OS X Mail attachments that got opened from 
 within the email were saved into Mail Downloads folder. This used to live in 
 the ~/Library folder. (And again, in Lion, in the invisible Library folder).
 In Mountain Lion, this got moved to the following location  
 ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 
 
 This folder can take up a bit of space if not cleaned out. So worth a look at 
 to see how many hundreds of files may be there :o)
 (I've just checked mine which I normally clean out fairly regularly  and even 
 in a small amount of time in Mountain Lion there were about 40 files in 
 there).
 
 More information can be found here:-
 http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2012080521491533
 
 Hope that helps others.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
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Re: Mail Downloads folder (for email attachments)

2012-08-16 Thread Daniel Kerr

Hi Peter

Correct. 
Basically if you get an attachment and double click it to view it then it will 
save to that folder and open in its associated program (eg .doc to Word, .pdf 
to Preview) etc. then if you save it from the email to the desktop or another 
folder you will have two copies (one where you put it and one in the library 
folder. 
If you then go back to the same email and double click the icon again it will 
open again and save another copy to the library folder. 
That's why sometimes you'll see the file 2,3 or more times. 
Eg filename.pdf then filename-1.pdf and so on. 
I once soon in a clients machine about 15 of the same 6mb file as they weren't 
aware it worked that way every time they re-clicked the file. After a bit of 
training ( and some cleaning up) all was good. I normally leave them a 
link/alias somewhere back to that folder do it's easy access to get to it to 
clean up. 
It doesn't take much for it to build to a few GB's of space. (sure hard drives 
have lots of space - but it all counts. 
And it's easier to clean up 100 files then 1200+ files as it builds up. Lol

So in answer to your question yes it will still stay in your email or your 
folder system where ever you file it to and the ones there can be deleted if 
you don't need them. 
(sorry for the ramble lol. )

Hope that helps. 

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 16/08/2012, at 7:08 PM, Curtis Peter pe...@augold.com.au wrote:

 Hi Daniel
 Thanks for that info, I presume there is nothing in this file that needs to 
 be kept other than for your own reasons?
 Regards
 Peter
 
 On 16/08/2012, at 6:50 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi All
 
 Just a little hint for those that may not be aware.
 
 In previous versions of Mac OS X Mail attachments that got opened from 
 within the email were saved into Mail Downloads folder. This used to live in 
 the ~/Library folder. (And again, in Lion, in the invisible Library folder).
 In Mountain Lion, this got moved to the following location  
 ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 
 
 This folder can take up a bit of space if not cleaned out. So worth a look 
 at to see how many hundreds of files may be there :o)
 (I've just checked mine which I normally clean out fairly regularly  and 
 even in a small amount of time in Mountain Lion there were about 40 files in 
 there).
 
 More information can be found here:-
 http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2012080521491533
 
 Hope that helps others.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
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Re: Mail Downloads folder (for email attachments)

2012-08-16 Thread Stuart Breden

Thanks Daniel.

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On 16/08/2012, at 6:50 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 Hi All
 
 Just a little hint for those that may not be aware.
 
 In previous versions of Mac OS X Mail attachments that got opened from 
 within the email were saved into Mail Downloads folder. This used to live in 
 the ~/Library folder. (And again, in Lion, in the invisible Library folder).
 In Mountain Lion, this got moved to the following location  
 ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Mail Downloads. 
 
 This folder can take up a bit of space if not cleaned out. So worth a look at 
 to see how many hundreds of files may be there :o)
 (I've just checked mine which I normally clean out fairly regularly  and even 
 in a small amount of time in Mountain Lion there were about 40 files in 
 there).
 
 More information can be found here:-
 http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2012080521491533
 
 Hope that helps others.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
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Lion apple mail attachments missing

2012-06-07 Thread Michael Anderson

Macbook Pro 
2.53 Intel Core2Duo
Lion 10.7.4

Having checked the Wamug archive, - there was a thread from Steven K in Aug2011 
around this topic, but there did not seem a conclusive solution.

My problem:  Attachments inconsistently don't appear although the Mail 
programme indicates via icons that there is an attachment, and I know there 
should be an attachment!  

Only by going to the webmail account, can I actually view and then cleanly 
download the attachment.  It seems an inconsistent issue and seems to occur 
across email accounts.  I have rebuilt all email accounts, and email folders 
within mail.  

There seems to be an increasing incidence of this.  Online Apple support forums 
indicate that others are also experiencing similar issues without successful 
solutions.  Apple seem very quiet.  Any suggestions?

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Re: Lion apple mail attachments missing

2012-06-07 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Mike,

Not all attachments will show in the body of an email.

Is there a 'Save' button showing in the header of the email? if you hover over 
a particular attachment, you can get more details.

Depending on several variables, including the message format, the type(s) of 
attachment, and your preference settings, the attachments may also appear in 
the body of your message—either as icons or, for certain graphics formats, as 
inline graphics. 

You mention you are seeing an icon ... is that in the body of the message?

Hover your pointer over an attachment icon in the body of the message for more 
information, including the full filename and its downloaded status.

Control-click a single attachment for a contextual menu of options. 
To view a supported graphic in the body of the message, choose View in Place.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.4 Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
On 08/06/2012, at 11:28 AM, Michael Anderson wrote:

 Macbook Pro 
 2.53 Intel Core2Duo
 Lion 10.7.4
 
 Having checked the Wamug archive, - there was a thread from Steven K in 
 Aug2011 around this topic, but there did not seem a conclusive solution.
 
 My problem:  Attachments inconsistently don't appear although the Mail 
 programme indicates via icons that there is an attachment, and I know there 
 should be an attachment!  
 
 Only by going to the webmail account, can I actually view and then cleanly 
 download the attachment.  It seems an inconsistent issue and seems to occur 
 across email accounts.  I have rebuilt all email accounts, and email folders 
 within mail.  
 
 There seems to be an increasing incidence of this.  Online Apple support 
 forums indicate that others are also experiencing similar issues without 
 successful solutions.  Apple seem very quiet.  Any suggestions?
 
 Mike Anderson
 mand...@me.com
 Paid up Wamug member - though not sure of current number?




















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Ipad attachments

2012-03-12 Thread John Hatch

Can anybody help? Receiving forwarded messages on my ipad OS5.1 but the 
attachment arent visable. Login to webserver and can see them there.

John

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Re: Ipad attachments

2012-03-12 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi John,

Is there an attachment icon showing in the email  or a paperclip in the left 
column?
Or are you seeing a ?

If seeing a ?; Press and hold the ? icon a pop up says 'quick view', then 
select 'quick view’.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 13/03/2012, at 11:55 AM, John Hatch wrote:

 Can anybody help? Receiving forwarded messages on my ipad OS5.1 but the 
 attachment arent visable. Login to webserver and can see them there.
 
 John
 
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Re: Removing attachments from incoming Mail message

2011-04-29 Thread Steven Knowles

Thanks James. However I don't need to save the attachment, and even if I did 
save the attachment, it does not delete that attachment from the message, which 
is what I want to do.

Yes, I can redirect, or re-send, or forward the message, and delete individual 
attachments, however this doesn't do what I want to do, ie. delete selected 
attachments from the message which is sitting in my inbox.

Cheers, Steven


On 29/04/2011, at 3:55 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

 if you need to remove for keeping the attachement then, you can just click  
 hold the save button in the address field, then pull down to the selected 
 attachement
 if you forward then just prepare the letter  you should see the 
 attachements, place the cursor behind (after the selected one) then hit 
 delete, that should remove the attachement within the forwarded letter
 James
  
 
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 On 29/04/2011, at 1:12 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:
 
 
 This is a long shot, I can't see any way of doing it but maybe there is.
 
 I'm using Apple's Mail 4.5 (on OSX 10.6.7).
 
 If an incoming message has attachments, those attachments can be removed 
 from the message by highlighting the message, then via menus Message  
 Remove Attachments.
 
 However, if there are multiple attachments to a message, and I want to 
 delete only one or some of the attachments, Mail doesn't appear to provide 
 this option. It's all or nothing.
 
 Other than redirecting / re-sending the message, and removing an attachment 
 that way, which is not ideal because it has side effects, does anybody know 
 of a way to delete selected attachments,  not all?
 
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Removing attachments from incoming Mail message

2011-04-28 Thread Steven Knowles


This is a long shot, I can't see any way of doing it but maybe there is.

I'm using Apple's Mail 4.5 (on OSX 10.6.7).

If an incoming message has attachments, those attachments can be removed from 
the message by highlighting the message, then via menus Message  Remove 
Attachments.

However, if there are multiple attachments to a message, and I want to delete 
only one or some of the attachments, Mail doesn't appear to provide this 
option. It's all or nothing.

Other than redirecting / re-sending the message, and removing an attachment 
that way, which is not ideal because it has side effects, does anybody know of 
a way to delete selected attachments,  not all?

Cheers, Steven


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Re: Removing attachments from incoming Mail message

2011-04-28 Thread James / Hans Kunz

if you need to remove for keeping the attachement then, you can just click  
hold the save button in the address field, then pull down to the selected 
attachement
if you forward then just prepare the letter  you should see the attachements, 
place the cursor behind (after the selected one) then hit delete, that should 
remove the attachement within the forwarded letter
James
 

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U3 6 Chalkley Pl
Bayswater WA
Australia
+618 9370 5307
mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132)
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disappear and obstacles vanish.

On 29/04/2011, at 1:12 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

 
 This is a long shot, I can't see any way of doing it but maybe there is.
 
 I'm using Apple's Mail 4.5 (on OSX 10.6.7).
 
 If an incoming message has attachments, those attachments can be removed from 
 the message by highlighting the message, then via menus Message  Remove 
 Attachments.
 
 However, if there are multiple attachments to a message, and I want to delete 
 only one or some of the attachments, Mail doesn't appear to provide this 
 option. It's all or nothing.
 
 Other than redirecting / re-sending the message, and removing an attachment 
 that way, which is not ideal because it has side effects, does anybody know 
 of a way to delete selected attachments,  not all?
 
 Cheers, Steven
 
 
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For those that were having problems with Mail and Attachments

2011-04-22 Thread Daniel Kerr


Just noticed this was on special, so if people had been looking at it, you
can save 33% for then next 19ish hours

Attachment Tamer
http://www.mupromo.com/deal/1486/7024/attachment-tamer
It's $9.99 instead of $14.99.


Just thought I'd mention it incase anyone was interested.

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Re: For those that were having problems with Mail and Attachments

2011-04-22 Thread Marlene Oostryck


Hi Daniel

This looks useful for me - any benefits to you if I use the address you 
provided - or do I just use the MacUpdate email direct?

Regards

Marlene

On 22/04/2011, at 4:04 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 
 Just noticed this was on special, so if people had been looking at it, you
 can save 33% for then next 19ish hours
 
 Attachment Tamer
 http://www.mupromo.com/deal/1486/7024/attachment-tamer
 It's $9.99 instead of $14.99.
 
 
 Just thought I'd mention it incase anyone was interested.
 
 Kind regards
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Re: For those that were having problems with Mail and Attachments

2011-04-22 Thread Daniel Kerr


Hi Maureen

Nah, makes no difference to me, but thanks for asking.
I just provided the link for interest. As it was one I received in an email
from them that I receive daily.
If I do ever post a link that I'm an affiliate for, I will always disclose
the information at the same time. :o)
I prefer to be honest up front all the time and make people aware.

Enjoy. :o)

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 22/4/11 6:23 PM, Marlene Oostryck oostr...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

 
 Hi Daniel
 
 This looks useful for me - any benefits to you if I use the address you
 provided - or do I just use the MacUpdate email direct?
 
 Regards
 
 Marlene
 
 On 22/04/2011, at 4:04 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Just noticed this was on special, so if people had been looking at it, you
 can save 33% for then next 19ish hours
 
 Attachment Tamer
 http://www.mupromo.com/deal/1486/7024/attachment-tamer
 It's $9.99 instead of $14.99.
 
 
 Just thought I'd mention it incase anyone was interested.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
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iphone 4- saving attachments in mail?

2011-04-05 Thread Mike Bradley



Hi guys,

I'm not sure if this has already been addressed, but, does anyone know 
if it's possible to save an attachment in the email app., to internal 
memory?


thanks in advance

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Re: Attachments

2011-04-05 Thread Bill Parker

And I have found all of the below AND the curious -  UNcheck the  
Windows friendly box and getting better results with the Windoze  
world.



Bill
On 05/04/2011, at 1:02 PM, Brett Curtis wrote:


Having a problem with sending attachments...
When I add an attachment (A4) to an email, sometimes it shows at  
full size, sometimes at half size, sometimes at postage stamp size  
and sometimes as a clickable file.  No rhyme or reason.
Nothing in Mail preferences and under editattachments, I get only  
the choice of adding attachment at the end of the message or not.   
The Send windows friendly is ticked.
Mail Help is no help as it only advises how to attach, not how they  
show to me or the receiver.

No similar problem comes up  in WAMUG Archives.

I am constantly getting replies from ppl, including web design ppl  
saying we cant read your attachment.
Its too small!  This is not every recipient, just some.  When I  
click on an attachment that I am sending it opens up full size in  
Preview.


Maybe it's the recipients fault and if so, what would I tell them to  
do?


Regards,


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Re: Attachments

2011-04-05 Thread Severin Crisp


Brett
	Following similar complaints, but not exactly the same as yours, I  
have installed Attachment Tamer from Lokiware (http://lokiware.info/Attachment-Tamer 
)

No more dramas!
Severin Crisp
On 05/04/2011, at 1:02 PM, Brett Curtis wrote:


Having a problem with sending attachments...
When I add an attachment (A4) to an email, sometimes it shows at  
full size, sometimes at half size, sometimes at postage stamp size  
and sometimes as a clickable file.  No rhyme or reason.
Nothing in Mail preferences and under editattachments, I get only  
the choice of adding attachment at the end of the message or not.   
The Send windows friendly is ticked.
Mail Help is no help as it only advises how to attach, not how they  
show to me or the receiver.

No similar problem comes up  in WAMUG Archives.

I am constantly getting replies from ppl, including web design ppl  
saying we cant read your attachment.
Its too small!  This is not every recipient, just some.  When I  
click on an attachment that I am sending it opens up full size in  
Preview.


Maybe it's the recipients fault and if so, what would I tell them to  
do?


Regards,


 C. Brett Curtis

Master Window Cleaners

Perth, Western Australia

0419 049 084

 Proud member of...

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Window Cleaners Association


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Committee 
)(Past 
 President)


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The above email and any attachments may be confidential and  
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Re: Attachments

2011-04-05 Thread Brett Curtis

Correct, no more dramas!

Thanks, Severin.


Brett Curtis

0419 049 084
br...@masterwindowcleaners.com


On 05/04/2011, at 2:22 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

 Brett
   Following similar complaints, but not exactly the same as yours, I have 
 installed Attachment Tamer from Lokiware 
 (http://lokiware.info/Attachment-Tamer)
 No more dramas!  
 Severin Crisp
 On 05/04/2011, at 1:02 PM, Brett Curtis wrote:
 
 Having a problem with sending attachments...
 When I add an attachment (A4) to an email, sometimes it shows at full size, 
 sometimes at half size, sometimes at postage stamp size and sometimes as a 
 clickable file.  No rhyme or reason.
 Nothing in Mail preferences and under editattachments, I get only the 
 choice of adding attachment at the end of the message or not.  The Send 
 windows friendly is ticked.
 Mail Help is no help as it only advises how to attach, not how they show to 
 me or the receiver.
 No similar problem comes up  in WAMUG Archives.
 
 I am constantly getting replies from ppl, including web design ppl saying 
 we cant read your attachment.
 Its too small!  This is not every recipient, just some.  When I click on an 
 attachment that I am sending it opens up full size in Preview.
 
 Maybe it's the recipients fault and if so, what would I tell them to do?
 
 Regards,
 
 
  C. Brett Curtis
 
 Master Window Cleaners 
 
 Perth, Western Australia
 
 0419 049 084
 
  Proud member of...
 
  image002.jpgclip_image006.jpg
 
 
 
 
  
   
 
 Australian Window Cleaners Federation
   Australian Window Cleaners Association 
 
  (West Aust Committee)   
  (Past President)
 
 hipages.com.au/masterwindowcleaners
 
 ·   Holders of $10m Public Liability insurance and full Workers 
 Compensation insurance.
 
 ·   We adhere strictly to Worksafe regulations.
 
 The above email and any attachments may be confidential and privileged.  If 
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 dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. 
 
 If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender 
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Mail attachments to PC

2011-04-05 Thread Chris Burton


Hi all

I have been trying to send a normal jpg image using Mail to a client of mine 
who says she just cant access it. She asks me to Attach it rather than have it 
'imbedded' in the email she receives? I have had this complaint before and it 
is always to a windows PC. Im  not sure what to do here? If I convert it to a 
pdf it usually works, but a plain jpeg it doesnt?

Can someone please advise me on this?

Kindest regards

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Re: iphone 4- saving attachments in mail?

2011-04-05 Thread Stuart Breden



I send an e-mail to my Mobile Me account with the attachment/s.

Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266



On 05/04/2011, at 2:09 PM, Mike Bradley wrote:



Hi guys,

I'm not sure if this has already been addressed, but, does anyone  
know if it's possible to save an attachment in the email app., to  
internal memory?


thanks in advance

Mike



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Re: Mail attachments to PC

2011-04-05 Thread Severin Crisp



Attachment Tamer will fix that one too
Severin Crisp
On 05/04/2011, at 4:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:



Hi all

I have been trying to send a normal jpg image using Mail to a client  
of mine who says she just cant access it. She asks me to Attach it  
rather than have it 'imbedded' in the email she receives? I have had  
this complaint before and it is always to a windows PC. Im  not sure  
what to do here? If I convert it to a pdf it usually works, but a  
plain jpeg it doesnt?


Can someone please advise me on this?

Kindest regards

Chris




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Re: Mail attachments to PC

2011-04-05 Thread Steven Knowles

Chris, I have this issue with Mail also when it comes to single-page image 
files. I'm not sure why, but a couple of workarounds:

Right-click and Compress the image file, ie. convert to a zip file, before 
attaching. This usually works, although there's a chance that the recipient's 
mail filters treat the zip file as suspicious. Some corporates don't allow 
incoming zip files at all.

If sending a single page image file in a format which does handle multiple 
pages, such as pdf of tiff, add a blank page (Preview can handle this) so that 
you send a two-page document to the recipient.

Happy to hear of easier workarounds and some insight into the underlying cause.

Cheers, Steven

On 05/04/2011, at 6:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:

 
 Hi all
 
 I have been trying to send a normal jpg image using Mail to a client of mine 
 who says she just cant access it. She asks me to Attach it rather than have 
 it 'imbedded' in the email she receives? I have had this complaint before and 
 it is always to a windows PC. Im  not sure what to do here? If I convert it 
 to a pdf it usually works, but a plain jpeg it doesnt?
 
 Can someone please advise me on this?
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Chris




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Re: Mail attachments to PC

2011-04-05 Thread Chris Griffiths

I have exactly the same issue.

I zip my files and send. Then ask them to email me back to check they have them.

It's only an issue with Jpgs. I think it just standard for Microsoft programs 
to imbed all RGB jpgs.

Don't think there is any other workarounds.

I'd also be grateful to know other ways.

Regards Chris Griffiths

On 05/04/2011, at 7:21 PM, Steven Knowles wrote:

 Chris, I have this issue with Mail also when it comes to single-page image 
 files. I'm not sure why, but a couple of workarounds:
 
 Right-click and Compress the image file, ie. convert to a zip file, before 
 attaching. This usually works, although there's a chance that the recipient's 
 mail filters treat the zip file as suspicious. Some corporates don't allow 
 incoming zip files at all.
 
 If sending a single page image file in a format which does handle multiple 
 pages, such as pdf of tiff, add a blank page (Preview can handle this) so 
 that you send a two-page document to the recipient.
 
 Happy to hear of easier workarounds and some insight into the underlying 
 cause.
 
 Cheers, Steven
 
 On 05/04/2011, at 6:48 PM, Chris Burton wrote:
 
 
 Hi all
 
 I have been trying to send a normal jpg image using Mail to a client of mine 
 who says she just cant access it. She asks me to Attach it rather than have 
 it 'imbedded' in the email she receives? I have had this complaint before 
 and it is always to a windows PC. Im  not sure what to do here? If I convert 
 it to a pdf it usually works, but a plain jpeg it doesnt?
 
 Can someone please advise me on this?
 
 Kindest regards
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 
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Re: iphone 4- saving attachments in mail?

2011-04-05 Thread Mike Bradley



I'm sorry Stuart, but I'm a bit of a noob, could you pls elaborate :b

Thanks
Mike

On 5/04/2011 5:04 PM, Stuart Breden wrote:


I send an e-mail to my Mobile Me account with the attachment/s.

Stuart Breden
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Hi guys,

I'm not sure if this has already been addressed, but, does anyone 
know if it's possible to save an attachment in the email app., to 
internal memory?


thanks in advance

Mike



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Re: Attachments/Displayed

2011-01-11 Thread John Daniels

Thanks Susan
Iconizer works a treat.
Cheers
John
On 11/01/2011, at 12:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:

 Hi, I use the little Mail Attachments Iconiser add on for Mail, and have been 
 able to send document to myself at work, and to my husband and other people 
 with Windows machines without any problems on the other side.
 
 http://lokiware.info/Mail-Attachments-Iconizer
 
 Attachment appear as icons when I send them, and appear to arrive as 
 accessible icons.
 
 cheers, Susan.
 On 11/01/2011, at 11:52 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi again Peter,
 
 I forgot to mention that if you wanted to see what images ( their numbers) 
 in the Archive.zip.
 Select the Archive.zip file,  go to File  Quick Look Archive.zip
 You 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 11/01/2011, at 11:37 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 You can compress several different files into one single archive file — 
 just Command-click (or Shift-click contiguous files) on all the files you 
 want included, then choose File  Compress x Items
 A file will be created named “Archive.zip
 .
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 11/01/2011, at 10:54 AM, Crisp, Peter pcr...@hatch.com.au wrote:
 
 Thanks for this Ronni. I understand the process if it is for one jpg but 
 if it is for numerous jpg files when selecting randomly (using the Control 
 button), to then go off to the finder and replicate the selections is very 
 difficult without knowing the image numbers – maybe there is a thumbnail 
 view in Finder which would emulate this process and allow a bulk zipping 
 of numerous jpg files – but I am sat at my Windows machine right now and 
 not sure till this evening to check fully.
 
  
 
 Windows for all it foibles, does this very elegantly and painlessly in 
 Picasa (a freebie download) giving the option of compression amount 
 (small/medium/large jpg) and attachment of the jpg (or numerous randomly 
 selected jpg’s) in a conventional way too (as opposed to embedded images). 
 Not that this helps the Mac users at all.
 
  
 
 Regards
 
  
 
 Peter..
 
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf 
 Of Ronda Brown
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2011 9:55 AM
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 Subject: Re: Attachments/Displayed
 
  
 
  
 
 On 11/01/2011, at 8:13 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 
 
 When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows users, 
 there is a complaint that the images display but are not seen as saveable 
 as attachments should be.   There is no problem with Mail to Mail emails 
 and I can see nothing relevant in Mail settings.  
 
 Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.  
 
 Severin Crisp
 
 
 One thing that seems to work is to make sure that, before you send the 
 attachment, right click on it (if it displayed as an image in your 
 composed message) and choose View as Icon from the popup menu, then make 
 sure that you place the attachment at the very bottom of the message. I'm 
 still not sure why this should make a difference, but it seems to.
 
  
 
 Hi Severin  Peter,
 
  
 
 When you right-click on an image  choose View as Icon from the 
 contextual menu, this affects only your view, not the way it appears to 
 the recipient. Even though a file appears as an icon on your screen, it 
 may appear inline on the recipient’s screen. 
 
  
 
 To be certain that a graphic does not appear inline, you must compress the 
 file before attaching it—Mail, sadly, lacks a built-in compression option. 
 
 The easiest way to compress a file (in Windows-friendly Zip format) using 
 Leopard or Snow Leopard  is to select the file in the Finder and choose 
 File  Compress filename.
 
 In Tiger, select the file in the Finder and choose File  Create Archive 
 of filename.
 
  
 
 Always use Windows-friendly attachments: Sending attachments in “Windows 
 friendly” format (omits resource forks, if they exist).
 
 To tell Mail to use Windows-friendly encoding for all new messages, choose 
 Edit  Attachments  Send Windows-Friendly Attachments.
 
  
 
 Use rich text format for graphics: Although it’s no guarantee of what will 
 show up on the other end, you’ll improve your odds of having graphics show 
 up correctly if you use rich text rather than plain text.
 
  
 
 Always include file extensions: Extensions at the end of a file’s name.
 
  
 
 Place Attachments at the bottom of an email (below your Signature)
 
  
 
 To force them to go to the bottom of the message: For a single message, 
 with that message window open: choose Edit  Attachments  Insert 
 Attachments at End of Message. 
 
  
 
 For all messages, with no message window open: Choose Edit  Attachments  
 Always Insert Attachments at End of Message. 
 
 This does not affect whether an attachment appears as an icon. 
 
  
 
 I  send a lot of images as attachments to Windows Users and have not had 
 any of the recipients experiencing any problems.
 
 I always use the above recommendations which

Attachments/Displayed

2011-01-10 Thread Severin Crisp

When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows  
users, there is a complaint that the images display but are not seen  
as saveable as attachments should be.   There is no problem with Mail  
to Mail emails and I can see nothing relevant in Mail settings.

Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.
Severin Crisp

   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
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Re: Attachments/Displayed

2011-01-10 Thread Chris Griffiths

Yes, I to have this issue. I zip everything I send to Windows users.  
That way they get it.


Generally don't have any problems with jpgs, word docs or pdfs.

And it has nothing to do with Send as Window friendly attachment.

Hope this helps.

Chris Griffiths

On 10/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows  
users, there is a complaint that the images display but are not seen  
as saveable as attachments should be.   There is no problem with  
Mail to Mail emails and I can see nothing relevant in Mail settings.

Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.
Severin Crisp

   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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Re: Attachments/Displayed

2011-01-10 Thread Severin Crisp


That is useful to know, thanks Chris
Severin

On 10/01/2011, at 5:00 PM, Chris Griffiths wrote:

Yes, I to have this issue. I zip everything I send to Windows users.  
That way they get it.


Generally don't have any problems with jpgs, word docs or pdfs.

And it has nothing to do with Send as Window friendly attachment.

Hope this helps.

Chris Griffiths

On 10/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows  
users, there is a complaint that the images display but are not  
seen as saveable as attachments should be.   There is no problem  
with Mail to Mail emails and I can see nothing relevant in Mail  
settings.

Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.
Severin Crisp

   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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Re: Attachments/Displayed

2011-01-10 Thread Pete Smith

G'day Severin.

I use Windows at work all the time and from memory, when mail appears in 
Outlook with the attachment displayed as part of the mail itself (I presume 
this is what is happening), I just put the cursor on the picture, right click 
and save as. Unfortunately, you can only do 1 at a time but it is saving the 
attachments.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Pete Smith

iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.6

On 10/01/2011, at 17:39 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

 That is useful to know, thanks Chris
 Severin
 
 On 10/01/2011, at 5:00 PM, Chris Griffiths wrote:
 
 Yes, I to have this issue. I zip everything I send to Windows users. That 
 way they get it.
 
 Generally don't have any problems with jpgs, word docs or pdfs.
 
 And it has nothing to do with Send as Window friendly attachment.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Chris Griffiths
 
 On 10/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows users, 
 there is a complaint that the images display but are not seen as saveable 
 as attachments should be.   There is no problem with Mail to Mail emails 
 and I can see nothing relevant in Mail settings.  
 Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.  
 Severin Crisp
 
Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
 Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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Re: Attachments/Displayed

2011-01-10 Thread Peter Hinchliffe



On 10/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

 When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows users, 
 there is a complaint that the images display but are not seen as saveable as 
 attachments should be.   There is no problem with Mail to Mail emails and I 
 can see nothing relevant in Mail settings.  
 Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.  
 Severin Crisp

One thing that seems to work is to make sure that, before you send the 
attachment, right click on it (if it displayed as an image in your composed 
message) and choose View as Icon from the popup menu, then make sure that you 
place the attachment at the very bottom of the message. I'm still not sure why 
this should make a difference, but it seems to.


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FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
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Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948

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Re: Attachments/Displayed

2011-01-10 Thread Ronda Brown


On 11/01/2011, at 8:13 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 
 
 On 10/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows users, 
 there is a complaint that the images display but are not seen as saveable as 
 attachments should be.   There is no problem with Mail to Mail emails and I 
 can see nothing relevant in Mail settings.  
 Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.  
 Severin Crisp
 
 One thing that seems to work is to make sure that, before you send the 
 attachment, right click on it (if it displayed as an image in your composed 
 message) and choose View as Icon from the popup menu, then make sure that 
 you place the attachment at the very bottom of the message. I'm still not 
 sure why this should make a difference, but it seems to.

Hi Severin  Peter,

When you right-click on an image  choose View as Icon from the contextual 
menu, this affects only your view, not the way it appears to the recipient. 
Even though a file appears as an icon on your screen, it may appear inline on 
the recipient’s screen. 

To be certain that a graphic does not appear inline, you must compress the file 
before attaching it—Mail, sadly, lacks a built-in compression option. 
The easiest way to compress a file (in Windows-friendly Zip format) using 
Leopard or Snow Leopard  is to select the file in the Finder and choose File  
Compress filename.
In Tiger, select the file in the Finder and choose File  Create Archive of 
filename.

Always use Windows-friendly attachments: Sending attachments in “Windows 
friendly” format (omits resource forks, if they exist).
To tell Mail to use Windows-friendly encoding for all new messages, choose Edit 
 Attachments  Send Windows-Friendly Attachments.

Use rich text format for graphics: Although it’s no guarantee of what will show 
up on the other end, you’ll improve your odds of having graphics show up 
correctly if you use rich text rather than plain text.

Always include file extensions: Extensions at the end of a file’s name.

Place Attachments at the bottom of an email (below your Signature)

To force them to go to the bottom of the message: For a single message, with 
that message window open: choose Edit  Attachments  Insert Attachments at End 
of Message. 

For all messages, with no message window open: Choose Edit  Attachments  
Always Insert Attachments at End of Message. 
This does not affect whether an attachment appears as an icon. 

I  send a lot of images as attachments to Windows Users and have not had any of 
the recipients experiencing any problems.
I always use the above recommendations which are found in Take Control Of 
Apple Mail in Snow Leopard.


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)











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RE: Attachments/Displayed

2011-01-10 Thread Crisp, Peter

Thanks for this Ronni. I understand the process if it is for one jpg but
if it is for numerous jpg files when selecting randomly (using the
Control button), to then go off to the finder and replicate the
selections is very difficult without knowing the image numbers - maybe
there is a thumbnail view in Finder which would emulate this process and
allow a bulk zipping of numerous jpg files - but I am sat at my Windows
machine right now and not sure till this evening to check fully.

 

Windows for all it foibles, does this very elegantly and painlessly in
Picasa (a freebie download) giving the option of compression amount
(small/medium/large jpg) and attachment of the jpg (or numerous randomly
selected jpg's) in a conventional way too (as opposed to embedded
images). Not that this helps the Mac users at all.

 

Regards

 

Peter..

From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2011 9:55 AM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Attachments/Displayed

 

 

On 11/01/2011, at 8:13 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:







On 10/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:




When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows
users, there is a complaint that the images display but are not seen as
saveable as attachments should be.   There is no problem with Mail to
Mail emails and I can see nothing relevant in Mail settings.  

Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.  

Severin Crisp


One thing that seems to work is to make sure that, before you send the
attachment, right click on it (if it displayed as an image in your
composed message) and choose View as Icon from the popup menu, then
make sure that you place the attachment at the very bottom of the
message. I'm still not sure why this should make a difference, but it
seems to.

 

Hi Severin  Peter,

 

When you right-click on an image  choose View as Icon from the
contextual menu, this affects only your view, not the way it appears to
the recipient. Even though a file appears as an icon on your screen, it
may appear inline on the recipient's screen. 

 

To be certain that a graphic does not appear inline, you must compress
the file before attaching it-Mail, sadly, lacks a built-in compression
option. 

The easiest way to compress a file (in Windows-friendly Zip format)
using Leopard or Snow Leopard  is to select the file in the Finder and
choose File  Compress filename.

In Tiger, select the file in the Finder and choose File  Create Archive
of filename.

 

Always use Windows-friendly attachments: Sending attachments in Windows
friendly format (omits resource forks, if they exist).

To tell Mail to use Windows-friendly encoding for all new messages,
choose Edit  Attachments  Send Windows-Friendly Attachments.

 

Use rich text format for graphics: Although it's no guarantee of what
will show up on the other end, you'll improve your odds of having
graphics show up correctly if you use rich text rather than plain text.

 

Always include file extensions: Extensions at the end of a file's name.

 

Place Attachments at the bottom of an email (below your Signature)

 

To force them to go to the bottom of the message: For a single message,
with that message window open: choose Edit  Attachments  Insert
Attachments at End of Message. 

 

For all messages, with no message window open: Choose Edit  Attachments
 Always Insert Attachments at End of Message. 

This does not affect whether an attachment appears as an icon. 

 

I  send a lot of images as attachments to Windows Users and have not had
any of the recipients experiencing any problems.

I always use the above recommendations which are found in Take Control
Of Apple Mail in Snow Leopard.

 

 

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)















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Re: Attachments/Displayed

2011-01-10 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Peter,

You can compress several different files into one single archive file — just 
Command-click (or Shift-click contiguous files) on all the files you want 
included, then choose File  Compress x Items
A file will be created named “Archive.zip
.

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 11/01/2011, at 10:54 AM, Crisp, Peter pcr...@hatch.com.au wrote:

 Thanks for this Ronni. I understand the process if it is for one jpg but if 
 it is for numerous jpg files when selecting randomly (using the Control 
 button), to then go off to the finder and replicate the selections is very 
 difficult without knowing the image numbers – maybe there is a thumbnail view 
 in Finder which would emulate this process and allow a bulk zipping of 
 numerous jpg files – but I am sat at my Windows machine right now and not 
 sure till this evening to check fully.
 
  
 
 Windows for all it foibles, does this very elegantly and painlessly in Picasa 
 (a freebie download) giving the option of compression amount 
 (small/medium/large jpg) and attachment of the jpg (or numerous randomly 
 selected jpg’s) in a conventional way too (as opposed to embedded images). 
 Not that this helps the Mac users at all.
 
  
 
 Regards
 
  
 
 Peter..
 
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of 
 Ronda Brown
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2011 9:55 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Attachments/Displayed
 
  
 
  
 
 On 11/01/2011, at 8:13 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 
 
 When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows users, 
 there is a complaint that the images display but are not seen as saveable as 
 attachments should be.   There is no problem with Mail to Mail emails and I 
 can see nothing relevant in Mail settings.  
 
 Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.  
 
 Severin Crisp
 
 
 One thing that seems to work is to make sure that, before you send the 
 attachment, right click on it (if it displayed as an image in your composed 
 message) and choose View as Icon from the popup menu, then make sure that 
 you place the attachment at the very bottom of the message. I'm still not 
 sure why this should make a difference, but it seems to.
 
  
 
 Hi Severin  Peter,
 
  
 
 When you right-click on an image  choose View as Icon from the contextual 
 menu, this affects only your view, not the way it appears to the recipient. 
 Even though a file appears as an icon on your screen, it may appear inline on 
 the recipient’s screen. 
 
  
 
 To be certain that a graphic does not appear inline, you must compress the 
 file before attaching it—Mail, sadly, lacks a built-in compression option. 
 
 The easiest way to compress a file (in Windows-friendly Zip format) using 
 Leopard or Snow Leopard  is to select the file in the Finder and choose File 
  Compress filename.
 
 In Tiger, select the file in the Finder and choose File  Create Archive of 
 filename.
 
  
 
 Always use Windows-friendly attachments: Sending attachments in “Windows 
 friendly” format (omits resource forks, if they exist).
 
 To tell Mail to use Windows-friendly encoding for all new messages, choose 
 Edit  Attachments  Send Windows-Friendly Attachments.
 
  
 
 Use rich text format for graphics: Although it’s no guarantee of what will 
 show up on the other end, you’ll improve your odds of having graphics show up 
 correctly if you use rich text rather than plain text.
 
  
 
 Always include file extensions: Extensions at the end of a file’s name.
 
  
 
 Place Attachments at the bottom of an email (below your Signature)
 
  
 
 To force them to go to the bottom of the message: For a single message, with 
 that message window open: choose Edit  Attachments  Insert Attachments at 
 End of Message. 
 
  
 
 For all messages, with no message window open: Choose Edit  Attachments  
 Always Insert Attachments at End of Message. 
 
 This does not affect whether an attachment appears as an icon. 
 
  
 
 I  send a lot of images as attachments to Windows Users and have not had any 
 of the recipients experiencing any problems.
 
 I always use the above recommendations which are found in Take Control Of 
 Apple Mail in Snow Leopard.
 
  
 
  
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
 
 OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Attachments/Displayed

2011-01-10 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi again Peter,

I forgot to mention that if you wanted to see what images ( their numbers) in 
the Archive.zip.
Select the Archive.zip file,  go to File  Quick Look Archive.zip
You 
Cheers,
Ronni

On 11/01/2011, at 11:37 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Peter,
 
 You can compress several different files into one single archive file — just 
 Command-click (or Shift-click contiguous files) on all the files you want 
 included, then choose File  Compress x Items
 A file will be created named “Archive.zip
 .
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 11/01/2011, at 10:54 AM, Crisp, Peter pcr...@hatch.com.au wrote:
 
 Thanks for this Ronni. I understand the process if it is for one jpg but if 
 it is for numerous jpg files when selecting randomly (using the Control 
 button), to then go off to the finder and replicate the selections is very 
 difficult without knowing the image numbers – maybe there is a thumbnail 
 view in Finder which would emulate this process and allow a bulk zipping of 
 numerous jpg files – but I am sat at my Windows machine right now and not 
 sure till this evening to check fully.
 
  
 
 Windows for all it foibles, does this very elegantly and painlessly in 
 Picasa (a freebie download) giving the option of compression amount 
 (small/medium/large jpg) and attachment of the jpg (or numerous randomly 
 selected jpg’s) in a conventional way too (as opposed to embedded images). 
 Not that this helps the Mac users at all.
 
  
 
 Regards
 
  
 
 Peter..
 
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf 
 Of Ronda Brown
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2011 9:55 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Attachments/Displayed
 
  
 
  
 
 On 11/01/2011, at 8:13 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 
 
 When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows users, 
 there is a complaint that the images display but are not seen as saveable as 
 attachments should be.   There is no problem with Mail to Mail emails and I 
 can see nothing relevant in Mail settings.  
 
 Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.  
 
 Severin Crisp
 
 
 One thing that seems to work is to make sure that, before you send the 
 attachment, right click on it (if it displayed as an image in your composed 
 message) and choose View as Icon from the popup menu, then make sure that 
 you place the attachment at the very bottom of the message. I'm still not 
 sure why this should make a difference, but it seems to.
 
  
 
 Hi Severin  Peter,
 
  
 
 When you right-click on an image  choose View as Icon from the contextual 
 menu, this affects only your view, not the way it appears to the recipient. 
 Even though a file appears as an icon on your screen, it may appear inline 
 on the recipient’s screen. 
 
  
 
 To be certain that a graphic does not appear inline, you must compress the 
 file before attaching it—Mail, sadly, lacks a built-in compression option. 
 
 The easiest way to compress a file (in Windows-friendly Zip format) using 
 Leopard or Snow Leopard  is to select the file in the Finder and choose File 
  Compress filename.
 
 In Tiger, select the file in the Finder and choose File  Create Archive of 
 filename.
 
  
 
 Always use Windows-friendly attachments: Sending attachments in “Windows 
 friendly” format (omits resource forks, if they exist).
 
 To tell Mail to use Windows-friendly encoding for all new messages, choose 
 Edit  Attachments  Send Windows-Friendly Attachments.
 
  
 
 Use rich text format for graphics: Although it’s no guarantee of what will 
 show up on the other end, you’ll improve your odds of having graphics show 
 up correctly if you use rich text rather than plain text.
 
  
 
 Always include file extensions: Extensions at the end of a file’s name.
 
  
 
 Place Attachments at the bottom of an email (below your Signature)
 
  
 
 To force them to go to the bottom of the message: For a single message, with 
 that message window open: choose Edit  Attachments  Insert Attachments at 
 End of Message. 
 
  
 
 For all messages, with no message window open: Choose Edit  Attachments  
 Always Insert Attachments at End of Message. 
 
 This does not affect whether an attachment appears as an icon. 
 
  
 
 I  send a lot of images as attachments to Windows Users and have not had any 
 of the recipients experiencing any problems.
 
 I always use the above recommendations which are found in Take Control Of 
 Apple Mail in Snow Leopard.
 
  
 
  
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
 2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm
 
 OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 




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Re: Attachments/Displayed

2011-01-10 Thread Susan Hastings

Hi, I use the little Mail Attachments Iconiser add on for Mail, and have been 
able to send document to myself at work, and to my husband and other people 
with Windows machines without any problems on the other side.

http://lokiware.info/Mail-Attachments-Iconizer

Attachment appear as icons when I send them, and appear to arrive as accessible 
icons.

cheers, Susan.
On 11/01/2011, at 11:52 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi again Peter,
 
 I forgot to mention that if you wanted to see what images ( their numbers) 
 in the Archive.zip.
 Select the Archive.zip file,  go to File  Quick Look Archive.zip
 You 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 11/01/2011, at 11:37 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 You can compress several different files into one single archive file — just 
 Command-click (or Shift-click contiguous files) on all the files you want 
 included, then choose File  Compress x Items
 A file will be created named “Archive.zip
 .
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 11/01/2011, at 10:54 AM, Crisp, Peter pcr...@hatch.com.au wrote:
 
 Thanks for this Ronni. I understand the process if it is for one jpg but if 
 it is for numerous jpg files when selecting randomly (using the Control 
 button), to then go off to the finder and replicate the selections is very 
 difficult without knowing the image numbers – maybe there is a thumbnail 
 view in Finder which would emulate this process and allow a bulk zipping of 
 numerous jpg files – but I am sat at my Windows machine right now and not 
 sure till this evening to check fully.
 
  
 
 Windows for all it foibles, does this very elegantly and painlessly in 
 Picasa (a freebie download) giving the option of compression amount 
 (small/medium/large jpg) and attachment of the jpg (or numerous randomly 
 selected jpg’s) in a conventional way too (as opposed to embedded images). 
 Not that this helps the Mac users at all.
 
  
 
 Regards
 
  
 
 Peter..
 
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf 
 Of Ronda Brown
 Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2011 9:55 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Attachments/Displayed
 
  
 
  
 
 On 11/01/2011, at 8:13 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/01/2011, at 4:55 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
 
 
 When sending emails with images as attachments from Mail to Windows users, 
 there is a complaint that the images display but are not seen as saveable 
 as attachments should be.   There is no problem with Mail to Mail emails 
 and I can see nothing relevant in Mail settings.  
 
 Has anyone any words of wisdom on this, please.  
 
 Severin Crisp
 
 
 One thing that seems to work is to make sure that, before you send the 
 attachment, right click on it (if it displayed as an image in your composed 
 message) and choose View as Icon from the popup menu, then make sure that 
 you place the attachment at the very bottom of the message. I'm still not 
 sure why this should make a difference, but it seems to.
 
  
 
 Hi Severin  Peter,
 
  
 
 When you right-click on an image  choose View as Icon from the 
 contextual menu, this affects only your view, not the way it appears to the 
 recipient. Even though a file appears as an icon on your screen, it may 
 appear inline on the recipient’s screen. 
 
  
 
 To be certain that a graphic does not appear inline, you must compress the 
 file before attaching it—Mail, sadly, lacks a built-in compression option. 
 
 The easiest way to compress a file (in Windows-friendly Zip format) using 
 Leopard or Snow Leopard  is to select the file in the Finder and choose 
 File  Compress filename.
 
 In Tiger, select the file in the Finder and choose File  Create Archive of 
 filename.
 
  
 
 Always use Windows-friendly attachments: Sending attachments in “Windows 
 friendly” format (omits resource forks, if they exist).
 
 To tell Mail to use Windows-friendly encoding for all new messages, choose 
 Edit  Attachments  Send Windows-Friendly Attachments.
 
  
 
 Use rich text format for graphics: Although it’s no guarantee of what will 
 show up on the other end, you’ll improve your odds of having graphics show 
 up correctly if you use rich text rather than plain text.
 
  
 
 Always include file extensions: Extensions at the end of a file’s name.
 
  
 
 Place Attachments at the bottom of an email (below your Signature)
 
  
 
 To force them to go to the bottom of the message: For a single message, 
 with that message window open: choose Edit  Attachments  Insert 
 Attachments at End of Message. 
 
  
 
 For all messages, with no message window open: Choose Edit  Attachments  
 Always Insert Attachments at End of Message. 
 
 This does not affect whether an attachment appears as an icon. 
 
  
 
 I  send a lot of images as attachments to Windows Users and have not had 
 any of the recipients experiencing any problems.
 
 I always use the above recommendations which are found in Take Control Of 
 Apple Mail in Snow Leopard.
 
  
 
  
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7

Re: Emptying trash of emails attachments

2010-11-21 Thread Stuart Breden



Stephen, I'm using v3.6 and not happening with me.

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On 20/11/2010, at 10:08 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:



Hi there folks,

I notice that for the past few weeks if I drag an attachment from an  
email onto the desktop,
then move it to Trash, then try to empty trash, it will not empty  
until I have closed Mail.


Using latest Apple Mail.

Is this something new in Mail and can I change it ?

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Emptying trash of emails attachments

2010-11-20 Thread Stephen Chape


Hi there folks,

I notice that for the past few weeks if I drag an attachment from an email onto 
the desktop,
then move it to Trash, then try to empty trash, it will not empty until I 
have closed Mail.

Using latest Apple Mail.

Is this something new in Mail and can I change it ?

Regards,
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Re: Attachments with Ipad

2010-10-13 Thread Susan Hastings


Hi, I just tested forwarding an attachment between my email accounts on my 
iPad. It works for me, the attachment does get sent and received. Also, I've 
had no complaints from other people about attachments not arriving.

So, it seems something other than your iPad is hindering the attachment going. 
Could you, for example, try on a different wireless network?

Cheers, Susan

Sent from my iPad

On 13/10/2010, at 11:53 AM, j...@iinet.net.au j...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 
 Susan,
 I have checked include attachments when asked. The email goes but not the 
 attachment
 
 john
 
 On Tue Oct 12 22:29 , Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com sent:
 
 
 Is it just the attachments that don't go, or the email as well?
 
 I find that if I forward an email that has attachments, there is a dialogue 
 box 
 that comes up asking if I want to include attachments or not. If you are not 
 getting that as an option maybe it is turned off in your email settings.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 12/10/2010, at 5:07 PM, j...@iinet.net.au j...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 
 I have been trying to forward emails from my Ipad which have attachments 
 and 
 they 
 are not being sent. Has any body an idea what happening or better still how 
 to 
 resolve the problem.
 
 Regards
 
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Attachments with Ipad

2010-10-12 Thread j...@iinet.net.au



I have been trying to forward emails from my Ipad which have attachments and 
they 
are not being sent. Has any body an idea what happening or better still how to 
resolve the problem.

Regards

John





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Re: Attachments with Ipad

2010-10-12 Thread Susan Hastings


Is it just the attachments that don't go, or the email as well?

I find that if I forward an email that has attachments, there is a dialogue box 
that comes up asking if I want to include attachments or not. If you are not 
getting that as an option maybe it is turned off in your email settings.

Sent from my iPad

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 I have been trying to forward emails from my Ipad which have attachments and 
 they 
 are not being sent. Has any body an idea what happening or better still how 
 to 
 resolve the problem.
 
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Re: Attachments with Ipad

2010-10-12 Thread j...@iinet.net.au


Susan,
I have checked include attachments when asked. The email goes but not the 
attachment

john

On Tue Oct 12 22:29 , Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com sent:


Is it just the attachments that don't go, or the email as well?

I find that if I forward an email that has attachments, there is a dialogue 
box 
that comes up asking if I want to include attachments or not. If you are not 
getting that as an option maybe it is turned off in your email settings.

Sent from my iPad

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they 
 are not being sent. Has any body an idea what happening or better still how 
 to 
 resolve the problem.
 
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Attachments to WAMUG

2010-04-13 Thread Daniel Kerr


Hi All

As has been mentioned before, can we please refrain from sending attachments
to list.
Recently we have seen this increase again.
It may seem like just a small attachment, but multiple this out by the
number of subscribers and it all adds up as bandwidth. (Let alone data to
iPhone usage).

We have asked before for attachments not to be sent, and they slowly come
back in again.

If we can all adhere to this ruling, that would be appreciated.
As if the mailing list changes again, attachments will cause your message to
be bounced.

Thanks in advance.

Kind Regards
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Re: Mail attachments from external drive

2010-03-11 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Peter,

Where do I start ?

Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB port on the 
Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External Backup drive to the Time 
Capsule in order to Archive its contents, using the Airport Utility App. 
This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that will transfer 
data from its internal drive to the external drive over the USB connection, at 
its maximum speed. 
In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule.

Or for connecting a USB shared Printer.

Also USB  drives attached to the TC  tend to spin down after about 1 minute of 
inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not spinning.

How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended (Journaled).

Do you have File Sharing enabled on the USB Drive?
Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing  - Enable File Sharing
Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available on the Disc 
that came with TC).

I think I remember you have a Dual-Band  802.11n only (5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) 
Network.

When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you are copying 
the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly through Time Capsule back to 
your MacBook. If this is what happens ... it is going to be twice as long as if 
you copied the files directly to the MacBook (Desktop), or if you directly 
connected the USB drive to your MacBook.

I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better solution, I'll let 
you know.

Cheers,
Ronni



On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:

 I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I had 
 prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents that were 
 residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule. I selected 
 “Attach” the one with the paper clip, and then I got the “colourful beach 
 ball”. The Finder look-alike browse panel had presented itself and was set to 
 my external drive initially I think because that was the last location that I 
 had browsed to.  I walked to the Time Capsule (with External drive attached) 
 and noted that the external drive was not spinning up ready for business due 
 to the enquiry to find the files to attach.
  
 I had to finally crash the Macbook – a very undesirable and uncouth action. 
 Maybe there was an alternative but I didn’t know what action. In any case, 
 following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the Finder directly to 
 browse to the files and successfully located them, copied them to the 
 desktop, then drag/dropped them into the email. But I should be able to just 
 Attach these docs directly I feel using the Attach function.
  
 Is the “Attach” command (for a file located on a Time Capsule external drive) 
 normally a problem like this for others? What could be going on that prevents 
 the external drive from waking up and responding to the request? The time 
 capsule is wirelessly connected to the Macbook (Snow Leopard), and the 
 external drive attached to the USB port of the TC.
  
 I cant recall if I had the same issue as this when I used Entourage initially.
  
 Cheers
  
 Peter…
 






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RE: Mail attachments from external drive

2010-03-11 Thread Crisp, Peter

Hi Ronnie, I have read your note and now see what you're saying. I can't
fathom why I would have an external drive attached to the TC if all I
was able to use it for was for backing up of backup files on the TC. I
have the external drive formatted as FAT32 (albeit with the 4GB file
size limitation) deliberately for the purpose of having Windows
compatibility of my other (shhh) Windows laptop attached to the network.
I share files between the two computers in this way. That sharing part
works very reliably. 

 

I have got a printer configuration just like yours not coincidentally
(an Epson wireless ready printer) set up wirelessly between TC and
printer (no cables between the two) and this too works really well.

 

File sharing for the external drive is set to Enabled and the Summary
tab under Airport Utility quotes version 7.5 as was installed from the
disc supplied with the TC new in December 2009.

 

I am set to 802.11n 5GHz only as well.

 

I just did a trial experiment too by initially forcing the external
drive awake from the Finder and opening a random file on the external
drive to prove it had a pulse PRIOR to attempting to do an Attach to a
new email within Mail. When it was 'wide awake', the Attach command
worked fine for Mail. 

 

I would sooner have the issue of making sure it was awake prior to
attaching than to loose the Windows compatibility and file sharing
ability so I suppose I will have to leave it this way.

 

Another thought, if I had a powered Hub attached to the USB of the TC
with two external drives in the hub, and one of the drives was FAT32 and
the other was MacOS Extended with some synching process between the two
externals, would that facilitate my obscure requirements?

 

I look forward to any further to any other tips you may have to my
situation. 

 

Regards

 

Peter...

 

 

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From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 4:32 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive

 

Hi Peter,

 

Where do I start ?

 

Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB port
on the Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External Backup
drive to the Time Capsule in order to Archive its contents, using the
Airport Utility App. 

This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that will
transfer data from its internal drive to the external drive over the USB
connection, at its maximum speed. 
In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule.

 

Or for connecting a USB shared Printer.

 

Also USB  drives attached to the TC  tend to spin down after about 1
minute of inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not spinning.

 

How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended
(Journaled).

 

Do you have File Sharing enabled on the USB Drive?

Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing  - Enable File Sharing

Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available on the
Disc that came with TC).

 

I think I remember you have a Dual-Band  802.11n only
(5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) Network.

 

When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you are
copying the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly through Time
Capsule back to your MacBook. If this is what happens ... it is going to
be twice as long as if you copied the files directly to the MacBook
(Desktop), or if you directly connected the USB drive to your MacBook.

 

I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better solution,
I'll let you know.

 

Cheers,

Ronni

 

 

 

On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:





I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I
had prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents
that were residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule.
I selected Attach the one with the paper clip, and then I got the
colourful beach ball. The Finder look-alike browse panel had presented
itself and was set to my external drive initially I think because that
was the last location that I had browsed to.  I walked to the Time
Capsule (with External drive attached) and noted that the external drive
was not spinning up ready for business due to the enquiry to find the
files to attach.

 

I had to finally crash the Macbook - a very undesirable and uncouth
action. Maybe there was an alternative but I didn't know what action. In
any case, following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the
Finder directly to browse to the files and successfully located them,
copied them to the desktop, then drag/dropped them into the email. But I
should be able to just Attach these docs directly I feel using the
Attach

Re: Mail attachments from external drive

2010-03-11 Thread Ronda Brown

 had a powered Hub attached to the USB of the TC with 
 two external drives in the hub, and one of the drives was FAT32 and the other 
 was MacOS Extended with some synching process between the two externals, 
 would that facilitate my obscure requirements?
  
 I look forward to any further to any other tips you may have to my situation.
  
 Regards
  
 Peter…
  
 From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf Of 
 Ronda Brown
 Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 4:32 PM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive
  
 Hi Peter,
  
 Where do I start ?
  
 Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB port on 
 the Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External Backup drive to the 
 Time Capsule in order to Archive its contents, using the Airport Utility App. 
 This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that will 
 transfer data from its internal drive to the external drive over the USB 
 connection, at its maximum speed. 
 In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule.
  
 Or for connecting a USB shared Printer.
  
 Also USB  drives attached to the TC  tend to spin down after about 1 minute 
 of inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not spinning.
  
 How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
  
 Do you have File Sharing enabled on the USB Drive?
 Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing  - Enable File Sharing
 Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available on the Disc 
 that came with TC).
  
 I think I remember you have a Dual-Band  802.11n only (5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) 
 Network.
  
 When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you are 
 copying the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly through Time 
 Capsule back to your MacBook. If this is what happens ... it is going to be 
 twice as long as if you copied the files directly to the MacBook (Desktop), 
 or if you directly connected the USB drive to your MacBook.
  
 I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better solution, I'll let 
 you know.
  
 Cheers,
 Ronni
  
  
  
 On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:
 
 
 I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I had 
 prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents that were 
 residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule. I selected 
 “Attach” the one with the paper clip, and then I got the “colourful beach 
 ball”. The Finder look-alike browse panel had presented itself and was set to 
 my external drive initially I think because that was the last location that I 
 had browsed to.  I walked to the Time Capsule (with External drive attached) 
 and noted that the external drive was not spinning up ready for business due 
 to the enquiry to find the files to attach.
  
 I had to finally crash the Macbook – a very undesirable and uncouth action. 
 Maybe there was an alternative but I didn’t know what action. In any case, 
 following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the Finder directly to 
 browse to the files and successfully located them, copied them to the 
 desktop, then drag/dropped them into the email. But I should be able to just 
 Attach these docs directly I feel using the Attach function.
  
 Is the “Attach” command (for a file located on a Time Capsule external drive) 
 normally a problem like this for others? What could be going on that prevents 
 the external drive from waking up and responding to the request? The time 
 capsule is wirelessly connected to the Macbook (Snow Leopard), and the 
 external drive attached to the USB port of the TC.
  
 I cant recall if I had the same issue as this when I used Entourage initially.
  
 Cheers
  
 Peter…
 






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RE: Mail attachments from external drive

2010-03-11 Thread Crisp, Peter

Ok, thanks Ronni for the significant time you have put into this for me.
I don't want to 'milk' you and I do really appreciate your comprehensive
and very meaningful articulation of issues and best resolution approach.
I will check the Airport utility version per instructions here. Once
again invaluable knowledge from you. Now that I am aware of the
limitations of the USB connected drive, I can manage the accessing of
the content on it more reservedly.

 

My very sincere thanks.

 

Regards

 

Peter



From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2010 9:18 AM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive

 

Hi Peter,

 

I said  the Primary Purpose of the USB port on the Time Capsule is to
allow users to connect an External Backup drive to the Time Capsule in
order to Archive its contents, using the Airport Utility App. You can
use it for other purposes, but be aware of its limitations   with it
being connected by USB to Time Capsule.

 

I strongly recommend, if your Data is important to you, and you are
serious about backing up and protecting your Data on your computers,
that you don't rely solely on Time Machine backups.

 

I wrote an article in September 2009 titled MY BACKUP STRATEGY. In it
I explain that a good Backup Strategy consists of three parts, and what
my Backup Strategy is. If you think it would be helpful to you, email me
off-list and I will give you my website Username  password, so you can
download it.

 

File sharing for the external drive is set to Enabled
and the Summary tab under Airport Utility quotes version 7.5 as was
installed from the disc supplied with the TC new in December 2009.

 

The Version 7.5 refers to your Time Capsule, not Airport Utility.app.
Open Airport Utility, under Airport Utility in the Menu bar  'About
Airport Utility' will give you the version, it should be v5.5 (550.29).

 

The Time Machine Schedule Problem:
Time Machine saves hourly backups for 24 hours, daily backups for a
month, and weekly backups until your disk is full. 

On the surface, that seems reasonable, but if you look at the details,
there's a catch.

Time Machine makes a new backup every hour that your computer is on and
awake. With each run, Time Machine also deletes the hourly backup from
25 hours ago, unless it was the first backup of that particular day.
Thus you always have hourly backups for the last 24 hours, as well as a
single hourly backup (i.e., from just the last hour of the day) for each
of the past 30 days. After a month, Time Machine deletes the oldest of
the daily backups, but it preserves the first daily backup from each
week as long as there's disk space available.

Now picture this: at 8:30 PM on Monday you create an important file.
When Time Machine runs next (at, say, 9:00 PM) it backs up that file-so
far so good. Now, at 9:30 PM, you delete the file, either intentionally
or otherwise. No problem: it's still in your backup. Of course, none of
the hourly backups for the next 24 hours includes your file, because it
had already been deleted, so the only copy Time Machine has is in that
first hourly backup. At 10:00 PM on Tuesday, Time Machine erases that
backup from 25 hours ago-the only one, from 9:00 on Monday, that
contained your important file. Because that file wasn't in the last
hourly backup of that day, it won't be there tomorrow if you suddenly
realise you need it, even though Time Machine backed it up yesterday!

So there are ways that files can fall through the cracks. Time Machine
backs them up, sure, but then, because of the way it deletes old
backups, it may remove your essential file from the backup before you
need it. (And that's true, by the way, when deleting old daily and
weekly backups too.) Plus, if a file exists for less than an hour, and
therefore isn't around for a single backup, Time Machine won't help at
all.

The lesson? First, supplementing your Time Machine backups is a good
idea. And second, get in the habit of hanging on to files for at least
24 hours before you delete them!

 

Cheers,

Ronni

 

 

On 11/03/2010, at 9:23 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:





Hi Ronnie, I have read your note and now see what you're saying. I can't
fathom why I would have an external drive attached to the TC if all I
was able to use it for was for backing up of backup files on the TC. I
have the external drive formatted as FAT32 (albeit with the 4GB file
size limitation) deliberately for the purpose of having Windows
compatibility of my other (shhh) Windows laptop attached to the network.
I share files between the two computers in this way. That sharing part
works very reliably. 

 

I have got a printer configuration just like yours not coincidentally
(an Epson wireless ready printer) set up wirelessly between TC and
printer (no cables between the two) and this too works really well.

 

File sharing for the external

Re: Mail attachments from external drive

2010-03-11 Thread James / Hans Kunz

 only as well.

I just did a trial experiment too by initially forcing the  
external drive awake from the Finder and opening a random file on  
the external drive to prove it had a pulse PRIOR to attempting to  
do an Attach to a new email within Mail. When it was ‘wide awake’,  
the Attach command worked fine for Mail.


I would sooner have the issue of making sure it was awake prior to  
attaching than to loose the Windows compatibility and file sharing  
ability so I suppose I will have to leave it this way.


Another thought, if I had a powered Hub attached to the USB of the  
TC with two external drives in the hub, and one of the drives was  
FAT32 and the other was MacOS Extended with some synching process  
between the two externals, would that facilitate my obscure  
requirements?


I look forward to any further to any other tips you may have to my  
situation.


Regards

Peter…


From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au]  
On Behalf Of Ronda Brown

Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 4:32 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: Mail attachments from external drive

Hi Peter,

Where do I start ?

Perhaps first I should explain that the Primary Purpose of the USB  
port on the Time Capsule is to allow users to connect an External  
Backup drive to the Time Capsule in order to Archive its contents,  
using the Airport Utility App.
This will activate a process in the Time Capsule controller that  
will transfer data from its internal drive to the external drive  
over the USB connection, at its maximum speed.

In other words, a backup of the backups on the Time Capsule.

Or for connecting a USB shared Printer.

Also USB  drives attached to the TC  tend to spin down after about  
1 minute of inactivity, hence you noticing the USB drive was not  
spinning.


How is the USB Drive formatted? It should be Mac OS Extended  
(Journaled).


Do you have File Sharing enabled on the USB Drive?
Airport Utility - Disks - File Sharing  - Enable File Sharing
Also are you using Airport Utility v5.5 (which is only available  
on the Disc that came with TC).


I think I remember you have a Dual-Band  802.11n only  
(5GHz)-802.11b/g/n) Network.


When you go to attach the files into an email, I would imagine you  
are copying the files from the Networked USB Drive, wirelessly  
through Time Capsule back to your MacBook. If this is what  
happens ... it is going to be twice as long as if you copied the  
files directly to the MacBook (Desktop), or if you directly  
connected the USB drive to your MacBook.


I'll give it some more thought, if I come up with a better  
solution, I'll let you know.


Cheers,
Ronni



On 11/03/2010, at 12:49 PM, Crisp, Peter wrote:


I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last  
night. I had prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a  
few documents that were residing on my USB external drive attached  
to my Time Capsule. I selected “Attach” the one with the paper  
clip, and then I got the “colourful beach ball”. The Finder look- 
alike browse panel had presented itself and was set to my external  
drive initially I think because that was the last location that I  
had browsed to.  I walked to the Time Capsule (with External drive  
attached) and noted that the external drive was not spinning up  
ready for business due to the enquiry to find the files to attach.


I had to finally crash the Macbook – a very undesirable and  
uncouth action. Maybe there was an alternative but I didn’t know  
what action. In any case, following a reboot of the Macbook, I was  
able to use the Finder directly to browse to the files and  
successfully located them, copied them to the desktop, then drag/ 
dropped them into the email. But I should be able to just Attach  
these docs directly I feel using the Attach function.


Is the “Attach” command (for a file located on a Time Capsule  
external drive) normally a problem like this for others? What  
could be going on that prevents the external drive from waking up  
and responding to the request? The time capsule is wirelessly  
connected to the Macbook (Snow Leopard), and the external drive  
attached to the USB port of the TC.


I cant recall if I had the same issue as this when I used  
Entourage initially.


Cheers

Peter…









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Mail attachments from external drive

2010-03-10 Thread Crisp, Peter

I wanted to know if anyone has had the issue I experienced last night. I
had prepared an email in Mail and then wanted to attach a few documents
that were residing on my USB external drive attached to my Time Capsule.
I selected Attach the one with the paper clip, and then I got the
colourful beach ball. The Finder look-alike browse panel had presented
itself and was set to my external drive initially I think because that
was the last location that I had browsed to.  I walked to the Time
Capsule (with External drive attached) and noted that the external drive
was not spinning up ready for business due to the enquiry to find the
files to attach.

 

I had to finally crash the Macbook - a very undesirable and uncouth
action. Maybe there was an alternative but I didn't know what action. In
any case, following a reboot of the Macbook, I was able to use the
Finder directly to browse to the files and successfully located them,
copied them to the desktop, then drag/dropped them into the email. But I
should be able to just Attach these docs directly I feel using the
Attach function.

 

Is the Attach command (for a file located on a Time Capsule external
drive) normally a problem like this for others? What could be going on
that prevents the external drive from waking up and responding to the
request? The time capsule is wirelessly connected to the Macbook (Snow
Leopard), and the external drive attached to the USB port of the TC.

 

I cant recall if I had the same issue as this when I used Entourage
initially.

 

Cheers

 

Peter...


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Re: Attachments: two for one

2009-11-17 Thread David Moyle



Evening all,

I must say when you said you still use Eudora I did have to go have a  
look to see when the project was ceased as I didn't think it was in  
the works anymore. Apparently they released a beta early last year but  
I think its trying to revive something that is long past its used by  
date.


So you are aware, what seems to be a lot of the 'resources' have moved  
through to the Mozilla Foundation Thunderbird project. You might like  
to consider this as a possible e-mail client you could move to  
although I can highly recommend Apple Mail which since 10.5 has been a  
real option.


Cheers,

David Moyle
Systems Technician
Apple, Windows, Cisco
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Western Australia
Mb: 0427 888 257




On 17/11/2009, at 1:27 PM, Mervyn  Giuliana Bond wrote:



Peter
Thank you for refreshing my faded memory of the Forked File.
I guess that at some stage I will have to switch to Mail or some  
similar more up to date mail client that deals with the FF.

Merv



On 16/11/2009, at 7:47 PM, Mervyn  Giuliana Bond wrote:



On a weekly basis I send a pdf, as an attachment, to a large  
number of people.
I warn them that they might get two files with the same name but  
ignore the one with a % sign as its first character.
New comers on the circulation always want to know why they get  
this extra file.  All I can say is that it one of those features  
of crossing platforms.
However, is it because I am using Eudora, a very simple, effective  
but elderly application or does it still occur with Mail, Outlook  
etc?

Merv


Given the time and space available, this will not be a  
comprehensive explanation, or even a particularly good one. For  
more information, Google Forked File or Resource Fork.


In a nutshell, the Macintosh file systems HFS and HFS+ (ie, going  
back to the earliest Macs) support a file format known as the  
Forked File. That is to say, the file actually exists in two  
parts: the Resource Fork and the Data Fork. The Mac OS treats these  
two parts as a single entity. Traditionally, the Resource Fork  
contains information needed by a file such as images, sounds,  
window sizes and much, much more. The following is from a Wikipedia  
entry:


Originally conceived and implemented by programmer Bruce Horn, the  
resource fork provided three important improvements to the  
Macintosh file system. First, it allowed all graphical data to be  
stored on disk until it was needed, then retrieved, drawn on the  
screen, and thrown away. This software variant of virtual memory  
helped Apple to reduce the memory requirements of the Apple Lisa  
from 1 MB to 128 KB in the Macintosh. Second, because all the  
pictures and text were stored separately in a resource fork, for  
the first time it allowed a non-programmer to translate an  
application for a foreign market, a process called  
internationalization and localization. And finally, it allows  
nearly all of the components of an application to be distributed in  
a single file, reducing clutter and simplifying application  
installation and removal.


The problem is that HFS and HFS+ are the only file systems which  
properly support Forked Files, so when you send a file created on a  
Mac as an attachment to a Windows user, they get both forks, and  
see them as separate files. Many people, on receipt of these files,  
try to open the Resource Fork first. These days this file will  
typically contain little or no data, so the file will not open, and  
they move on. In odrer to deal with this problem in the early days  
of email, Apple developed the AppleDouble encoding format which  
was used by Macintosh email clients (such as Eudora) in an attempt  
to over come these problems by combine the two files into one for  
transmission through the various UNIS servers it would encounter  
through its travels.


These days, especially since the advent of the UNIX-based Mac OS X  
system, which itself has trouble with forked files, the Resource  
Fork has been largely deprecated. It's still there for  
compatibility reasons with older software, so unfortunately  
Resource Forks still get sent with your attachments, and they  
remain a problem for non-Mac users.


If you use Apple Mail, there is an option you can set to send  
Windows-friendly attachments, in which case the Resource Fork is  
stripped off before the attachment is sent. I suspect Eudora is  
still using the AppleDouble encoding idea.


As I say, please refer to more authoritative sources for a more  
detailed explanation.




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Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia  Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064  
948


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