subject:"MacKeeper"

Re: MacKeeper - Uninstall MacKeeper & make sure you delete every file it installs!!

2018-04-13 Thread Stephen Chape

Ta Ronni

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 10:05 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Stephen,
> 
> No, I don’t feel it is necessary to purchase the full version.
> The Free version of MalwareBytes will help you delete any Malware you 
> ‘accidentally’ install.
> The current Mac operating system handles maintenance and protection very well.
> It’s only when you install third-party cleaning software that you can have 
> issues.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 13 Apr 2018, at 7:35 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com 
> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni.
>> Just a sideline to this thread really.
>> I have MalwareBytes Free.
>> 
>> I get prompted to purchase the full version.
>> Do you feel this is worth having ?
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 5:54 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
>>> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening Ronni,
>>> 
>>> Thank goodness I mentioned MacKeeper in an email that had nothing at all to 
>>> with applications of its ilk. I’ve worked my way through in all the steps A 
>>> and B in your email, I founD MacKeeper items in each folder you mentioned, 
>>> other than LaunchDaemons.
>>> 
>>> Now to work my way through C. The MacBook Pro OS is High Sierra 10.13.4.
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much indeed,
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 1:05 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Michael, and WAMUG mailing list members,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve changed the Subject as this has nothing to do with the original 
>>>> thread.
>>>> This is the updated recommended way to uninstall MacKeeper & every file it 
>>>> installs!
>>>> 
>>>> I strongly recommend you download and install Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 
>>>> for Mac <https://www.malwarebytes.com/mac/> and have it check your system, 
>>>> as I would be surprised if you have manually found all the files MacKeeper 
>>>> spreads around the operating system.
>>>> Note: Download the Malwarebytes FREE  & and make sure it’s the Mac version 
>>>> not Windows.  https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/mac/ 
>>>> <https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/mac/>
>>>> 
>>>> A) If you choose to install Malwarebytes, launch it and do this:
>>>> Click the Scan button.
>>>> In the sheet that appears, check the box for any software that you would 
>>>> like to delete and click Confirm. (PUP stands for Potentially Unwanted 
>>>> Program.)
>>>> 
>>>>   3.  Once the process is finished, restart your Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> B)The Manual Way
>>>> Even Malwarebytes may not get all of MacKeeper's supporting files. You 
>>>> should take a look in the Library folder in your home directory to make 
>>>> sure they're all gone. Here's where and how to find them.
>>>> 
>>>> In the Finder's Go menu, choose Go to Folder
>>>> In the dialog box that appears, type ~/Library and click Go. This will 
>>>> open the Library folder which is normally hidden by default in your home 
>>>> directory.
>>>> If you find a folder named MacKeeper Backups, drag it to the Trash.
>>>> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Application Support 
>>>> folder. If you find any files or folders with MacKeeper in its name, drag 
>>>> them to the Trash.
>>>> 
>>>> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Caches folder. If you find 
>>>> files named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper, com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper, or 
>>>> any other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the 
>>>> Trash.
>>>> Scroll through your Library folder and open the LaunchAgents folder. If 
>>>> you find a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper.plist, or any other 
>>>> files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
>>>> Your Library folder may contain a folder named LaunchDaemons. If you find 
>>>> inside it a file named 
>>>> com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon.plist or any other files 
>>>> or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
>>>> Scroll through your Libr

Re: MacKeeper - Uninstall MacKeeper & make sure you delete every file it installs!!

2018-04-13 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi, Stephen,

No, I don’t feel it is necessary to purchase the full version.
The Free version of MalwareBytes will help you delete any Malware you 
‘accidentally’ install.
The current Mac operating system handles maintenance and protection very well.
It’s only when you install third-party cleaning software that you can have 
issues.

Kind Regards,
Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 13 Apr 2018, at 7:35 pm, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni.
> Just a sideline to this thread really.
> I have MalwareBytes Free.
> 
> I get prompted to purchase the full version.
> Do you feel this is worth having ?
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 5:54 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Good evening Ronni,
>> 
>> Thank goodness I mentioned MacKeeper in an email that had nothing at all to 
>> with applications of its ilk. I’ve worked my way through in all the steps A 
>> and B in your email, I founD MacKeeper items in each folder you mentioned, 
>> other than LaunchDaemons.
>> 
>> Now to work my way through C. The MacBook Pro OS is High Sierra 10.13.4.
>> 
>> Thank you very much indeed,
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 1:05 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael, and WAMUG mailing list members,
>>> 
>>> I’ve changed the Subject as this has nothing to do with the original thread.
>>> This is the updated recommended way to uninstall MacKeeper & every file it 
>>> installs!
>>> 
>>> I strongly recommend you download and install Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 
>>> for Mac and have it check your system, as I would be surprised if you have 
>>> manually found all the files MacKeeper spreads around the operating system.
>>> Note: Download the Malwarebytes FREE  & and make sure it’s the Mac version 
>>> not Windows.  https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/mac/
>>> 
>>> A) If you choose to install Malwarebytes, launch it and do this:
>>> Click the Scan button.
>>> In the sheet that appears, check the box for any software that you would 
>>> like to delete and click Confirm. (PUP stands for Potentially Unwanted 
>>> Program.)
>>> 
>>>   3.  Once the process is finished, restart your Mac.
>>> 
>>> B)The Manual Way
>>> Even Malwarebytes may not get all of MacKeeper's supporting files. You 
>>> should take a look in the Library folder in your home directory to make 
>>> sure they're all gone. Here's where and how to find them.
>>> 
>>> In the Finder's Go menu, choose Go to Folder
>>> In the dialog box that appears, type ~/Library and click Go. This will open 
>>> the Library folder which is normally hidden by default in your home 
>>> directory.
>>> If you find a folder named MacKeeper Backups, drag it to the Trash.
>>> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Application Support folder. 
>>> If you find any files or folders with MacKeeper in its name, drag them to 
>>> the Trash.
>>> 
>>> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Caches folder. If you find 
>>> files named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper, com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper, or any 
>>> other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
>>> Scroll through your Library folder and open the LaunchAgents folder. If you 
>>> find a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper.plist, or any other files 
>>> or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
>>> Your Library folder may contain a folder named LaunchDaemons. If you find 
>>> inside it a file named 
>>> com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon.plist or any other files or 
>>> folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
>>> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Preferences folder. If you 
>>> find inside it a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.AdwareAnalyzer.plist or 
>>> any other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the 
>>> Trash.
>>> From the Finder menu, choose Empty Trash... and Empty the Trash if prompted.
>>> C). If the hits just keep on coming'...
>>> 
>>> Sometimes installing MacKeeper will result in Safari extensions and cookies 
>>> also being installed...and the prodding to install MacKeeper—as well as 
>>> other ads—may keep appearing. The latest version of macOS contains a 
>>> built-in tool that will remove known unwanted adware and malware when yo

Re: MacKeeper - Uninstall MacKeeper & make sure you delete every file it installs!!

2018-04-13 Thread Stephen Chape

Hi Ronni.
Just a sideline to this thread really.
I have MalwareBytes Free.

I get prompted to purchase the full version.
Do you feel this is worth having ?

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 5:54 pm, Michael Hawkins 
> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Good evening Ronni,
> 
> Thank goodness I mentioned MacKeeper in an email that had nothing at all to 
> with applications of its ilk. I’ve worked my way through in all the steps A 
> and B in your email, I founD MacKeeper items in each folder you mentioned, 
> other than LaunchDaemons.
> 
> Now to work my way through C. The MacBook Pro OS is High Sierra 10.13.4.
> 
> Thank you very much indeed,
> 
> Michael
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 1:05 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael, and WAMUG mailing list members,
>> 
>> I’ve changed the Subject as this has nothing to do with the original thread.
>> This is the updated recommended way to uninstall MacKeeper & every file it 
>> installs!
>> 
>> I strongly recommend you download and install Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware for 
>> Mac <https://www.malwarebytes.com/mac/> and have it check your system, as I 
>> would be surprised if you have manually found all the files MacKeeper 
>> spreads around the operating system.
>> Note: Download the Malwarebytes FREE  & and make sure it’s the Mac version 
>> not Windows.  https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/mac/ 
>> <https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/mac/>
>> 
>> A) If you choose to install Malwarebytes, launch it and do this:
>> Click the Scan button.
>> In the sheet that appears, check the box for any software that you would 
>> like to delete and click Confirm. (PUP stands for Potentially Unwanted 
>> Program.)
>> 
>>   3.  Once the process is finished, restart your Mac.
>> 
>> B)The Manual Way
>> Even Malwarebytes may not get all of MacKeeper's supporting files. You 
>> should take a look in the Library folder in your home directory to make sure 
>> they're all gone. Here's where and how to find them.
>> 
>> In the Finder's Go menu, choose Go to Folder
>> In the dialog box that appears, type ~/Library and click Go. This will open 
>> the Library folder which is normally hidden by default in your home 
>> directory.
>> If you find a folder named MacKeeper Backups, drag it to the Trash.
>> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Application Support folder. 
>> If you find any files or folders with MacKeeper in its name, drag them to 
>> the Trash.
>> 
>> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Caches folder. If you find 
>> files named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper, com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper, or any 
>> other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
>> Scroll through your Library folder and open the LaunchAgents folder. If you 
>> find a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper.plist, or any other files 
>> or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
>> Your Library folder may contain a folder named LaunchDaemons. If you find 
>> inside it a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon.plist 
>> or any other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the 
>> Trash.
>> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Preferences folder. If you 
>> find inside it a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.AdwareAnalyzer.plist or 
>> any other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the 
>> Trash.
>> From the Finder menu, choose Empty Trash... and Empty the Trash if prompted.
>> C). If the hits just keep on coming'...
>> 
>> Sometimes installing MacKeeper will result in Safari extensions and cookies 
>> also being installed...and the prodding to install MacKeeper—as well as 
>> other ads—may keep appearing. The latest version of macOS contains a 
>> built-in tool that will remove known unwanted adware and malware when you 
>> restart your Mac. So try that first. If that doesn't work, here's what to do.
>> 
>> From the Apple menu, choose Force Quit
>> In the window that appears, select Safari and click Force Quit.
>> Relaunch Safari while holding down the Shift key on the keyboard. This will 
>> prevent any windows that were open when you force quit Safari from reopening.
>> From the Safari menu, choose Preferences.
>> Click Extensions.
>> In the list that appears, select any extensions that you don't recognize and 
>> click Uninstall for each of them.
>> Click Privacy.
>> Click Manage Website Data.
>>

Re: MacKeeper - Uninstall MacKeeper & make sure you delete every file it installs!!

2018-04-13 Thread Michael Hawkins

Good evening Ronni,

Thank goodness I mentioned MacKeeper in an email that had nothing at all to 
with applications of its ilk. I’ve worked my way through in all the steps A and 
B in your email, I founD MacKeeper items in each folder you mentioned, other 
than LaunchDaemons.

Now to work my way through C. The MacBook Pro OS is High Sierra 10.13.4.

Thank you very much indeed,

Michael

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 1:05 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael, and WAMUG mailing list members,
> 
> I’ve changed the Subject as this has nothing to do with the original thread.
> This is the updated recommended way to uninstall MacKeeper & every file it 
> installs!
> 
> I strongly recommend you download and install Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware for 
> Mac <https://www.malwarebytes.com/mac/> and have it check your system, as I 
> would be surprised if you have manually found all the files MacKeeper spreads 
> around the operating system.
> Note: Download the Malwarebytes FREE  & and make sure it’s the Mac version 
> not Windows.  https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/mac/ 
> <https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/mac/>
> 
> A) If you choose to install Malwarebytes, launch it and do this:
> Click the Scan button.
> In the sheet that appears, check the box for any software that you would like 
> to delete and click Confirm. (PUP stands for Potentially Unwanted Program.)
> 
>   3.  Once the process is finished, restart your Mac.
> 
> B)The Manual Way
> Even Malwarebytes may not get all of MacKeeper's supporting files. You should 
> take a look in the Library folder in your home directory to make sure they're 
> all gone. Here's where and how to find them.
> 
> In the Finder's Go menu, choose Go to Folder
> In the dialog box that appears, type ~/Library and click Go. This will open 
> the Library folder which is normally hidden by default in your home directory.
> If you find a folder named MacKeeper Backups, drag it to the Trash.
> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Application Support folder. 
> If you find any files or folders with MacKeeper in its name, drag them to the 
> Trash.
> 
> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Caches folder. If you find 
> files named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper, com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper, or any 
> other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
> Scroll through your Library folder and open the LaunchAgents folder. If you 
> find a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper.plist, or any other files or 
> folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
> Your Library folder may contain a folder named LaunchDaemons. If you find 
> inside it a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon.plist 
> or any other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the 
> Trash.
> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Preferences folder. If you 
> find inside it a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.AdwareAnalyzer.plist or 
> any other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the 
> Trash.
> From the Finder menu, choose Empty Trash... and Empty the Trash if prompted.
> C). If the hits just keep on coming'...
> 
> Sometimes installing MacKeeper will result in Safari extensions and cookies 
> also being installed...and the prodding to install MacKeeper—as well as other 
> ads—may keep appearing. The latest version of macOS contains a built-in tool 
> that will remove known unwanted adware and malware when you restart your Mac. 
> So try that first. If that doesn't work, here's what to do.
> 
> From the Apple menu, choose Force Quit
> In the window that appears, select Safari and click Force Quit.
> Relaunch Safari while holding down the Shift key on the keyboard. This will 
> prevent any windows that were open when you force quit Safari from reopening.
> From the Safari menu, choose Preferences.
> Click Extensions.
> In the list that appears, select any extensions that you don't recognize and 
> click Uninstall for each of them.
> Click Privacy.
> Click Manage Website Data.
> In the sheet that appears, enter MacKeeper in the Search box to show any data 
> related to MacKeeper and click Remove All.
> 
> When you have finished, restart your Mac.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Ronni 
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:12 am, Michael Hawkins 
> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Ronni.
>> 
>> I shutdown, started in Safe mode, searched for MacKeeper and removed every 
>> trace I could find of it. Looked in places like Preferences as well.
>> 
>

Re: MacKeeper - Uninstall MacKeeper & make sure you delete every file it installs!!

2018-04-12 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Michael, and WAMUG mailing list members,

I’ve changed the Subject as this has nothing to do with the original thread.
This is the updated recommended way to uninstall MacKeeper & every file it 
installs!

I strongly recommend you download and install Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware for 
Mac and have it check your system, as I would be surprised if you have manually 
found all the files MacKeeper spreads around the operating system.
Note: Download the Malwarebytes FREE  & and make sure it’s the Mac version not 
Windows.  https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/mac/

A) If you choose to install Malwarebytes, launch it and do this:
Click the Scan button.
In the sheet that appears, check the box for any software that you would like 
to delete and click Confirm. (PUP stands for Potentially Unwanted Program.)

  3.  Once the process is finished, restart your Mac.

B)The Manual Way
Even Malwarebytes may not get all of MacKeeper's supporting files. You should 
take a look in the Library folder in your home directory to make sure they're 
all gone. Here's where and how to find them.

In the Finder's Go menu, choose Go to Folder
In the dialog box that appears, type ~/Library and click Go. This will open the 
Library folder which is normally hidden by default in your home directory.
If you find a folder named MacKeeper Backups, drag it to the Trash.
Scroll through your Library folder and open the Application Support folder. If 
you find any files or folders with MacKeeper in its name, drag them to the 
Trash.

Scroll through your Library folder and open the Caches folder. If you find 
files named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper, com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper, or any 
other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
Scroll through your Library folder and open the LaunchAgents folder. If you 
find a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper.plist, or any other files or 
folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
Your Library folder may contain a folder named LaunchDaemons. If you find 
inside it a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon.plist or 
any other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
Scroll through your Library folder and open the Preferences folder. If you find 
inside it a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.AdwareAnalyzer.plist or any 
other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
From the Finder menu, choose Empty Trash... and Empty the Trash if prompted.
C). If the hits just keep on coming'...

Sometimes installing MacKeeper will result in Safari extensions and cookies 
also being installed...and the prodding to install MacKeeper—as well as other 
ads—may keep appearing. The latest version of macOS contains a built-in tool 
that will remove known unwanted adware and malware when you restart your Mac. 
So try that first. If that doesn't work, here's what to do.

From the Apple menu, choose Force Quit
In the window that appears, select Safari and click Force Quit.
Relaunch Safari while holding down the Shift key on the keyboard. This will 
prevent any windows that were open when you force quit Safari from reopening.
From the Safari menu, choose Preferences.
Click Extensions.
In the list that appears, select any extensions that you don't recognize and 
click Uninstall for each of them.
Click Privacy.
Click Manage Website Data.
In the sheet that appears, enter MacKeeper in the Search box to show any data 
related to MacKeeper and click Remove All.

When you have finished, restart your Mac.

Regards,
Ronni 

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:12 am, Michael Hawkins 
> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni.
> 
> I shutdown, started in Safe mode, searched for MacKeeper and removed every 
> trace I could find of it. Looked in places like Preferences as well.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 9:36 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ALERT to Michael... DON’T install MacKeeper!!!
>> Do a search on our WAMUG mailing list archives to see all the reasons why?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Ronni  
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
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Re: Mackeeper.

2016-06-24 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Tony,

We have been warning members for years on the evils of MacKeeper 
Just do a search on WAMUG mailing list archives for MacKeeper to see how bad it 
is. 
<http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=MacKeeper=wamug%40wamug.org.au>

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 24 Jun 2016, at 11:13 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Definitely not!
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On 24 Jun 2016, at 11:04 PM, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Absolutely NOT !!
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Jun 2016, at 10:00 PM, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No
>>> 
>>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-3691
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>>  Good Ideas 
>>>  0409 681 256  
>>>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 24 Jun 2016, at 7:59 PM, Anthony (Tony) Francis <antne...@icloud.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone
>>>> 
>>>> Would any of our members recommend MACK KEEPERS for their Computer?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks guy’s
>>>> Tony
>>>> 
>>>> BODDINGTON
>>>> 
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Re: Mackeeper.

2016-06-24 Thread Peter Crisp

Definitely not!

Regards


Pete

> On 24 Jun 2016, at 11:04 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Absolutely NOT !!
> 
> 
>> On 24 Jun 2016, at 10:00 PM, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
>> 
>> No
>> 
>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-3691
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>>  Good Ideas 
>>  0409 681 256  
>>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Jun 2016, at 7:59 PM, Anthony (Tony) Francis  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone
>>> 
>>> Would any of our members recommend MACK KEEPERS for their Computer?
>>> 
>>> Thanks guy’s
>>> Tony
>>> 
>>> BODDINGTON
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
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> 
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Mackeeper.

2016-06-24 Thread Stephen Chape

Absolutely NOT !!


> On 24 Jun 2016, at 10:00 PM, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
> 
> No
> 
> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-3691 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  Good Ideas 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rb...@iinet.net.au  
> 
> 
> 
>> On 24 Jun 2016, at 7:59 PM, Anthony (Tony) Francis  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone
>> 
>> Would any of our members recommend MACK KEEPERS for their Computer?
>> 
>> Thanks guy’s
>> Tony
>> 
>> BODDINGTON
>> 
>> 
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>> 
> 
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Regards,
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Re: Mackeeper.

2016-06-24 Thread Rod Blitvich

No

https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-3691



Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 Good Ideas 
 0409 681 256  
 rb...@iinet.net.au  



> On 24 Jun 2016, at 7:59 PM, Anthony (Tony) Francis  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone
> 
> Would any of our members recommend MACK KEEPERS for their Computer?
> 
> Thanks guy’s
> Tony
> 
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Re: Mackeeper.

2016-06-24 Thread Anthony (Tony) Francis

Hi Everyone

Would any of our members recommend MACK KEEPERS for their Computer?

Thanks guy’s
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MacKeeper - search results on WAMUG Archives

2016-02-05 Thread Ronda Brown

Follow up on my last post to Bill regarding my comment re MacKeeper.
...warning members for over 5 years how devious and damaging this ‘piece’ of  
’terrible' software is… and how it can do a lot of damage to your computer and 
prove expensive to fix!

Type MacKeeper in the search field at WAMUG mailing list archive link
<http://www.mail-archive.com/wamug@wamug.org.au/>

And you will see these Search Results - 118 !!
Warnings about MacKeeper from Peter H, Daniel, and Ronni.

<http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=MacKeeper=wamug%40wamug.org.au>

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Re: MacKeeper Account Data Found Online

2015-12-15 Thread Philippe Chaperon

Hi Ronni and All,

Many thanks for this warning about MacKeeper which is so insidious that it can
creep into a Mac computer if one is not careful.

To illustrate how sly Zeobit is, I recently did a Google search for a rare
french song of the 50’s era. I found a link to a site which appeared to be a
music selling one, showing the song in question and a button entitled simply:
Download. I had presumed it was a download of the song track but also that it
would point me to a secured page for payment. Instead Safari began downloading
MacKeeper. Nothing I could do would stop the downloading except by shutting
Safari.

When I reopened Safari, MacKeeper kept downloading … and I panicked! Zeobit
downloader had taken full control of Safari to allow the downloading and
installation of the software! I shut down Safari, and searching through various
Safari folders managed to find a culprit file which I promptly sent to the
trash and emptied it immediately.

Unfortunately, in my panicked state I did not take note of what I was doing,
but somehow I must have trashed the right file/s as Safari has been working
correctly ever since, and no hint of MacKeeper on my hard drive!

I am relating this bad experience of mine because I thought I was knowledgeable
enough and diligent with my Mac computers security. How far was I from this
ideal state of knowledge! The site had no signs of links to Zeobit and to its
poisonous and dangerous applications.

From then on I have decided that all my music, i.e. 100% of them, will be
purchased on iTunes. If iTunes does not have what I am searching for I will try
and get the track on a relevant CD instead!

Please dear WAMUG’ers be very, very careful and do not do like me, thinking I
knew enough to escape their vicious grasps!

Happy Christmas to All, with my thanks to the WAMUG committee members who work
behind the scenes to help us, to the many regular contributors and of course to
Ronni and Daniel our resident experts.

Kind regards,

J Philippe Chaperon

On 15 Dec 2015, at 8:06 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:

Hi WAMUG members,

On WAMUG mailing list we have always warned and recommended avoiding MacKeeper
like the plague — it does nothing good, can harm your computers, and is
difficult to uninstall.

Well it seems we are again justified in given this advice to members.
MacKeeper hacked: 13 million account details exposed
It now appears that MacKeeper Account sensitive Data has been discovered open
on the Internet.
White-hat hacker Chris Vickery discovered data for over 13 million MacKeeper
accounts via a simple Shodan.io <http://shodan.io/> search.
The data was/is publicly available. No exploits or vulnerabilities involved.
[Zeobit and Kromtech] published it to the open web with no attempt at
protection.”

More info here:
<http://www.macworld.com/article/3014607/security/mackeeper-hacked-data-for-13-million-accounts-exposed.html

<http://www.macworld.com/article/3014607/security/mackeeper-hacked-data-for-13-million-accounts-exposed.html>>

Cheers,
Ronni

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MacKeeper Account Data Found Online

2015-12-14 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi WAMUG members,

On WAMUG mailing list we have always warned and recommended avoiding MacKeeper 
like the plague — it does nothing good, can harm your computers, and is 
difficult to uninstall.

Well it seems we are again justified in given this advice to members.
MacKeeper hacked: 13 million account details exposed
It now appears that MacKeeper Account sensitive Data has been discovered open 
on the Internet.
White-hat hacker Chris Vickery discovered data for over 13 million MacKeeper 
accounts via a simple Shodan.io search. 
The data was/is publicly available. No exploits or vulnerabilities involved. 
[Zeobit and Kromtech] published it to the open web with no attempt at 
protection.” 

More info here: 
<http://www.macworld.com/article/3014607/security/mackeeper-hacked-data-for-13-million-accounts-exposed.html>

Cheers,
Ronni

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MacKeeper Owner ZeoBIT Could Owe Users $2 Million

2015-05-11 Thread Ronda Brown

Hopefully now people will NOT be duped into installing this 'really bad 
software' that we have warned WAMUG members of for 5 years.

MacKeeper Owner ZeoBIT Could Owe Users $2 Million

Under settlement terms for a 2014 class-action lawsuit against MacKeeper 
creator ZeoBIT, the company could owe customers $2 million in refunds. ZeoBIT 
has been accused of unscrupulous marketing, with system tests that flag 
nonexistent problems. Austrian firm AV Comparatives tested the latest trial 
version of MacKeeper on a fresh install of OS X 10.10 Yosemite, and the 
software warned that the computer’s condition was “serious,” citing 500 MB of 
“junk” files.

http://www.itworld.com/article/2919295/apple-security-program-mackeeper-celebrates-difficult-birthday.html

Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: MacKeeper Owner ZeoBIT Could Owe Users $2 Million

2015-05-11 Thread Stephen Chape

Struth … MacKeeper has been around doing damage long enough that most Mac users 
should have RED ALERT etched into their brains !

But thank you for that news Ronni.


 On 12 May 2015, at 6:19 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hopefully now people will NOT be duped into installing this 'really bad 
 software' that we have warned WAMUG members of for 5 years.
 
 MacKeeper Owner ZeoBIT Could Owe Users $2 Million
 
 Under settlement terms for a 2014 class-action lawsuit against MacKeeper 
 creator ZeoBIT, the company could owe customers $2 million in refunds. ZeoBIT 
 has been accused of unscrupulous marketing, with system tests that flag 
 nonexistent problems. Austrian firm AV Comparatives tested the latest trial 
 version of MacKeeper on a fresh install of OS X 10.10 Yosemite, and the 
 software warned that the computer’s condition was “serious,” citing 500 MB of 
 “junk” files.
 
 http://www.itworld.com/article/2919295/apple-security-program-mackeeper-celebrates-difficult-birthday.html
  
 http://www.itworld.com/article/2919295/apple-security-program-mackeeper-celebrates-difficult-birthday.html
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: MacKeeper

2014-12-09 Thread Ken Jackson

It should be illegal!!

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Philippe Chaperon laut...@me.com wrote:

 Dear WAMUG'gers,

 I totally agree with the negative comments on this insidious software
 called Mac Keeper. Many years back I made the mistake of installing this
 product on my Mac and quickly found out it was useless for me anyway.

 The problem I encountered was in removing it entirely from my system. It
 was not so easy, and if my memory serves me well it would have been either
 Daniel, Ronni or Peter H who provided the necessary steps.

 This darn thing is advertised every where and even on otherwise excellent
 Mac websites, and this promotes the idea of a reliable product and that's
 how I got conned!

 Keep alert and safe!

 Regards,

 Philippe C


 On 9 Dec 2014, at 12:45 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:

 I used it long ago before the warnings from WAMUG. Most of my MP3 files
 disappeared!!
 Vanished. Oh well I had them on a back up drive. Since deleted Mac Keeper.
 Cheers Marcus
 By the way must vs time go renew membership of WAMUG

 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5

 On 9 Dec 2014, at 8:59 am, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:

 I have seen a lot of reputable sites posting it.
 This always surprises me !


 On 9 Dec 2014, at 8:30 am, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au
 wrote:

 For those who still harbour any illusions about the evil nasty called
 MacKeeper, or who have not seen all the warnings about it on the WAMUG
 list, check out the comments at

 http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33710/mackeeper

 The only puzzle is why a reputable site like MacUpdate is even listing
 this dreadful stuff in the first place.


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MacKeeper

2014-12-08 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

For those who still harbour any illusions about the evil nasty called 
MacKeeper, or who have not seen all the warnings about it on the WAMUG list, 
check out the comments at 

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33710/mackeeper 
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33710/mackeeper

The only puzzle is why a reputable site like MacUpdate is even listing this 
dreadful stuff in the first place. 


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Re: MacKeeper

2014-12-08 Thread Stephen Chape

I have seen a lot of reputable sites posting it.
This always surprises me !


 On 9 Dec 2014, at 8:30 am, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 For those who still harbour any illusions about the evil nasty called 
 MacKeeper, or who have not seen all the warnings about it on the WAMUG list, 
 check out the comments at 
 
 http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33710/mackeeper 
 http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33710/mackeeper
 
 The only puzzle is why a reputable site like MacUpdate is even listing this 
 dreadful stuff in the first place. 
 
 
 *** PLEASE NOTE: Do NOT click the download button!! ***
 
 
 
 
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Re: MacKeeper

2014-12-08 Thread Marcus F Harris

I used it long ago before the warnings from WAMUG. Most of my MP3 files 
disappeared!!
Vanished. Oh well I had them on a back up drive. Since deleted Mac Keeper.
Cheers Marcus
By the way must vs time go renew membership of WAMUG 

Sent from Marcus iPhone 5

 On 9 Dec 2014, at 8:59 am, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 I have seen a lot of reputable sites posting it.
 This always surprises me !
 
 
 On 9 Dec 2014, at 8:30 am, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 For those who still harbour any illusions about the evil nasty called 
 MacKeeper, or who have not seen all the warnings about it on the WAMUG list, 
 check out the comments at 
 
 http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33710/mackeeper
 
 The only puzzle is why a reputable site like MacUpdate is even listing this 
 dreadful stuff in the first place. 
 
 
 *** PLEASE NOTE: Do NOT click the download button!! ***
 
 
 
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
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Re: MacKeeper

2014-12-08 Thread Philippe Chaperon

Dear WAMUG’gers, 

I totally agree with the negative comments on this insidious software called 
Mac Keeper. Many years back I made the mistake of installing this product on my 
Mac and quickly found out it was useless for me anyway. 

The problem I encountered was in removing it entirely from my system. It was 
not so easy, and if my memory serves me well it would have been either Daniel, 
Ronni or Peter H who provided the necessary steps. 

This darn thing is advertised every where and even on otherwise excellent Mac 
websites, and this promotes the idea of a reliable product and that’s how I got 
conned!

Keep alert and safe!

Regards, 

Philippe C 


 On 9 Dec 2014, at 12:45 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:
 
 I used it long ago before the warnings from WAMUG. Most of my MP3 files 
 disappeared!!
 Vanished. Oh well I had them on a back up drive. Since deleted Mac Keeper.
 Cheers Marcus
 By the way must vs time go renew membership of WAMUG 
 
 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5
 
 On 9 Dec 2014, at 8:59 am, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com 
 mailto:chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 I have seen a lot of reputable sites posting it.
 This always surprises me !
 
 
 On 9 Dec 2014, at 8:30 am, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au 
 mailto:hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 For those who still harbour any illusions about the evil nasty called 
 MacKeeper, or who have not seen all the warnings about it on the WAMUG 
 list, check out the comments at 
 
 http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33710/mackeeper 
 http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/33710/mackeeper
 
 The only puzzle is why a reputable site like MacUpdate is even listing this 
 dreadful stuff in the first place. 
 
 
 *** PLEASE NOTE: Do NOT click the download button!! ***
 
 
 
 
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Mackeeper

2014-02-23 Thread Juliet Kitson

Hello All
I just recieved a message telling me my Mac is slow and to download
mackeeper and my mac wil speed up, any opinions, and yes my mac is slow get
the spinning beach ball a lot.
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Re: Mackeeper

2014-02-23 Thread Ronni Brown


On 24 Feb 2014, at 7:54 am, Juliet Kitson billand...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All
 I just recieved a message telling me my Mac is slow and to download mackeeper 
 and my mac wil speed up, any opinions, and yes my mac is slow get the 
 spinning beach ball a lot.
 Regards Bill

Hi Bill,

DON'T install MacKeeper  We have had numerous emails on WAMUG some time 
back about the damage it can and does to your operating system.

I once had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’ MacKeeper had 
done to his MacBook Pro.

This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System,  
without your knowing.

I know it is advertised  recommended all over the Internet, but I would never 
recommend installing this Application.
I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.

I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do and how difficult it is to 
uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the place even after you 
’think’ it is uninstalled.

Is you Mac running slow, or only this message has told you?

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.9.1 Mavericks
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Re: Mackeeper

2014-02-23 Thread Tim Law

Bill

There has been discussions about mackeeper in the last six months. All of them 
warning against it, and complex it is to remove. 

I use the free onyx from time to time with good effect and Disk warrior when 
things get tough. 

Good practices like keeping your desktop sparsely populated, a restart now and 
again never go astray either

Tim

Sent from my iPhone

 On 24 Feb 2014, at 7:54 am, Juliet Kitson billand...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All
 I just recieved a message telling me my Mac is slow and to download mackeeper 
 and my mac wil speed up, any opinions, and yes my mac is slow get the 
 spinning beach ball a lot.
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Re: Mackeeper

2014-02-23 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 24 Feb 2014, at 7:54 am, Juliet Kitson billand...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All
 I just recieved a message telling me my Mac is slow and to download mackeeper 
 and my mac wil speed up, any opinions, and yes my mac is slow get the 
 spinning beach ball a lot.


Run away! Run away!

Mackeeper has a terrible reputation, and rather than helping, can actually make 
a bad situation worse. Do not fall for this. Invest the money in a larger hard 
drive instead. 

Your computer is beach-balling for any number of reasons, which will take a 
reasoned, logical approach to sort out. Mackeeper is not your solution to this. 
The Number One reason for increased beachball activity is usually diminishing 
space on your hard drive. Either that, you you have too many applications open 
with insufficient memory. These are the things to look at first. 

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Re: Mackeeper

2014-02-23 Thread Bill Parker

I am not a real expert like many others here but ANYTHING that messes with my 
OS is OUT.


How does Mackeeper know about your computer?   Frankly I would go to either 
Safari or Firefox and get their site blocking tools.  That stops a lot of 
advertising.

I have my share of beach ball.   My usual routine is to see what is running and 
what I do not need.  Photoshop is one - it guzzles memory. Quit.  

I do a Permission repair regularly and I switch off my machine ( MacBook Pro 3 
years old now) as often as possible.

Bill


On 24/02/2014, at 7:54 AM, Juliet Kitson wrote:

 Hello All
 I just recieved a message telling me my Mac is slow and to download mackeeper 
 and my mac wil speed up, any opinions, and yes my mac is slow get the 
 spinning beach ball a lot.
 Regards Bill
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Re: Mackeeper

2014-02-23 Thread Susan Hastings

Mackeeper knows about your computer in the same way that the computer phone 
folk do. You know, the ones who phone you and say they have been advised that 
you have a problem with your Windows computer. That is, they know nothing at 
all about how your computer is going, it's just a marketing technique.

Sent from my iPad

 On 24 Feb 2014, at 8:58 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 I am not a real expert like many others here but ANYTHING that messes with my 
 OS is OUT.
 
 
 How does Mackeeper know about your computer?   Frankly I would go to either 
 Safari or Firefox and get their site blocking tools.  That stops a lot of 
 advertising.
 
 I have my share of beach ball.   My usual routine is to see what is running 
 and what I do not need.  Photoshop is one - it guzzles memory. Quit.  
 
 I do a Permission repair regularly and I switch off my machine ( MacBook Pro 
 3 years old now) as often as possible.
 
 Bill
 
 
 On 24/02/2014, at 7:54 AM, Juliet Kitson wrote:
 
 Hello All
 I just recieved a message telling me my Mac is slow and to download 
 mackeeper and my mac wil speed up, any opinions, and yes my mac is slow get 
 the spinning beach ball a lot.
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Re: Mackeeper

2014-02-23 Thread Juliet Kitson

Thanks everybody I had a feeling it was bad will not touch it.
Regards Bill


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@mac.comwrote:

 Mackeeper knows about your computer in the same way that the computer
 phone folk do. You know, the ones who phone you and say they have been
 advised that you have a problem with your Windows computer. That is, they
 know nothing at all about how your computer is going, it's just a marketing
 technique.

 Sent from my iPad

 On 24 Feb 2014, at 8:58 am, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I am not a real expert like many others here but ANYTHING that messes with
 my OS is OUT.


 How does Mackeeper know about your computer?   Frankly I would go to
 either Safari or Firefox and get their site blocking tools.  That stops a
 lot of advertising.

 I have my share of beach ball.   My usual routine is to see what is
 running and what I do not need.  Photoshop is one - it guzzles memory.
 Quit.

 I do a Permission repair regularly and I switch off my machine ( MacBook
 Pro 3 years old now) as often as possible.

 Bill


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Re: Mackeeper

2014-02-23 Thread Stephen Chape

Been lot’s of warnings re MacKeeper for a long time.
VERY BAD NEWS !
I can’t understand why it has a link on so many reputable sights ?

On 24 Feb 2014, at 8:26 am, Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au wrote:

 Whatever you do-DONT install Mac Keeper. I'm sure the knowledgeable folk in 
 Wamug will give you sound advice as to how to fix your problem.I use Disc 
 Warrior regularly -it has a splendid reputation.
 2.jpg
 
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Re: MacKeeper

2013-01-10 Thread Stuart Breden

Yes, I've heard this before and removed it on all my devices using AppZapper.

Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266

Please consider the environment before printing this email






On 06/01/2013, at 7:35 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

 Hi Ken,
 
 How many times have I posted to WAMUG about the dangers of installing and 
 using MacKeeper??
 MacKeeper is awful. It's been described as junkware and is known to cause 
 all sorts of problems. 
 The best I can advise you is to completely remove it from your machine. 
 You may have to live with whatever data loss it caused.
 
 Hopefully you've been making backups with Time Machine or another program and 
 can recover your data that way.
 
 This email to WAMUG I posted back in May 2011:
 /Begin Quote:
 Hi Brian,
 
 Have recently installed MacKeeper and let it do its 'magic' but no other 
 major changes.
 
 Do its ‘magic’ … ?
 
 Only recently I had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’ 
 MacKeeper had done to his MacBook Pro.
 What you have mentioned below were some of the symptoms he was experiencing 
 before the MBP virtually stopped completely.
 
 This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System,  
 without your knowing.
 
 I know it is advertised  recommended all over the Internet, but I would 
 never recommend installing this Application.
 I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.
 
 I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do and how difficult it is to 
 uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the place even after 
 you ’think’ it is uninstalled.
 When they open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within these 
 are the files  MacKeeper left over on their computer.
 
 Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they 
 ‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:
 
 /Library/Application Support/MacKeeper
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 ~/Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 ~/Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
 ~/Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
 
 I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore after 
 trying to delete MacKeeper.
 
 It does need to be uninstalled correctly to get rid of all the associated 
 files.
 There is an uninstaller now with the latest version and their support say 
 that it totally removes all the components of the App.
 
 /Quote:
 So to remove the app one should just move it to the trash, fill in the 
 survey form containing the question about what's the reason of your desire to 
 uninstall MacKeeper, and finally press 'uninstall' button - that will totally 
 remove all the components of the app.”
 /End Quote:
 
 I used this uninstaller once and still found some associated MacKeeper 
 ‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
 as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.
 
 I would suggest you get rid of MacKeeper completely, do a “Repair 
 Permissions” after.
 I would also, boot from the Snow Leopard Installation disk  use Disk Utility 
 (on the Installer Disc) to ‘Repair Disk’.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 /End Quote
 
 On 05/01/2013, at 3:19 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 a huge shock when going to the tutorial pages for MacKeeper..they're
 infected!!!
 
 Gefendok.org is a malware producer apparently. Proceed with caution if
 you're using MacKeeper.
 
 Best,
 *
 Ken Jackson
 *
 
 k...@littleriverstudios.com.au
 
  kenjackson7...@gmail.com
 
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 M 0450 400 772
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Re: MacKeeper

2013-01-10 Thread Ronda Brown

Stuart,

Check that AppZapper removed every associated file as I mentioned below.

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 10/01/2013, at 8:25 PM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:

Yes, I've heard this before and removed it on all my devices using AppZapper.

Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266

Please consider the environment before printing this email

On 06/01/2013, at 7:35 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

Hi Ken,

How many times have I posted to WAMUG about the dangers of installing and
using MacKeeper??
MacKeeper is awful. It's been described as junkware and is known to cause
all sorts of problems.
The best I can advise you is to completely remove it from your machine.
You may have to live with whatever data loss it caused.

Hopefully you've been making backups with Time Machine or another program
and can recover your data that way.

This email to WAMUG I posted back in May 2011:
/Begin Quote:
Hi Brian,

Have recently installed MacKeeper and let it do its 'magic' but no other
major changes.

Do its ‘magic’ … ?

Only recently I had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’
MacKeeper had done to his MacBook Pro.
What you have mentioned below were some of the symptoms he was experiencing
before the MBP virtually stopped completely.

This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System,
without your knowing.

I know it is advertised recommended all over the Internet, but I would
never recommend installing this Application.
I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.

I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do and how difficult it is to
uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the place even after
you ’think’ it is uninstalled.
When they open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within these
are the files MacKeeper left over on their computer.

Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they
‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:

/Library/Application Support/MacKeeper
/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
~/Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
~/Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
~/Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper

I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore after
trying to delete MacKeeper.

It does need to be uninstalled correctly to get rid of all the associated
files.
There is an uninstaller now with the latest version and their support say
that it totally removes all the components of the App.

/Quote:
So to remove the app one should just move it to the trash, fill in the
survey form containing the question about what's the reason of your desire
to uninstall MacKeeper, and finally press 'uninstall' button - that will
totally remove all the components of the app.”
/End Quote:

I used this uninstaller once and still found some associated MacKeeper
‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.

I would suggest you get rid of MacKeeper completely, do a “Repair
Permissions” after.
I would also, boot from the Snow Leopard Installation disk use Disk
Utility (on the Installer Disc) to ‘Repair Disk’.

Cheers,
Ronni
/End Quote

On 05/01/2013, at 3:19 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi folks,

a huge shock when going to the tutorial pages for MacKeeper..they're
infected!!!

Gefendok.org is a malware producer apparently. Proceed with caution if
you're using MacKeeper.

Best,
*
Ken Jackson
*

k...@littleriverstudios.com.au

kenjackson7...@gmail.com

T 08 9376 1680
M 0450 400 772
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Re: MacKeeper

2013-01-10 Thread Stuart Breden

Yes, did so.

Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266

Please consider the environment before printing this email

On 10/01/2013, at 8:38 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

Stuart,

Check that AppZapper removed every associated file as I mentioned below.

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 10/01/2013, at 8:25 PM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:

Yes, I've heard this before and removed it on all my devices using AppZapper.

Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266

Please consider the environment before printing this email

On 06/01/2013, at 7:35 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

Hi Ken,

Hopefully you've been making backups with Time Machine or another program
and can recover your data that way.

This email to WAMUG I posted back in May 2011:
/Begin Quote:
Hi Brian,

Have recently installed MacKeeper and let it do its 'magic' but no other
major changes.

Do its ‘magic’ … ?

This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System,
without your knowing.

I know it is advertised recommended all over the Internet, but I would
never recommend installing this Application.
I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.

Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they
‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:

I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore
after trying to delete MacKeeper.

I used this uninstaller once and still found some associated MacKeeper
‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.

Cheers,
Ronni
/End Quote

On 05/01/2013, at 3:19 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi folks,

a huge shock when going to the tutorial pages for MacKeeper..they're
infected!!!

Gefendok.org is a malware producer apparently. Proceed with caution if
you're using MacKeeper.

Best,
*
Ken Jackson
*

k...@littleriverstudios.com.au

kenjackson7...@gmail.com

T 08 9376 1680
M 0450 400 772
Skype kennyj1098
www.littleriverstudios.com.au
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Re: MacKeeper

2013-01-10 Thread Stephen Chape

Hi again Ronni - yes I do !
Hey if you are busy please leave it till later !

On 10/01/2013, at 8:38 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

Stuart,

Check that AppZapper removed every associated file as I mentioned below.

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 10/01/2013, at 8:25 PM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:

Yes, I've heard this before and removed it on all my devices using AppZapper.

Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266

Please consider the environment before printing this email

On 06/01/2013, at 7:35 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

Hi Ken,

Hopefully you've been making backups with Time Machine or another program
and can recover your data that way.

This email to WAMUG I posted back in May 2011:
/Begin Quote:
Hi Brian,

Have recently installed MacKeeper and let it do its 'magic' but no other
major changes.

Do its ‘magic’ … ?

This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System,
without your knowing.

I know it is advertised recommended all over the Internet, but I would
never recommend installing this Application.
I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.

Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they
‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:

I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore
after trying to delete MacKeeper.

I used this uninstaller once and still found some associated MacKeeper
‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.

Cheers,
Ronni
/End Quote

On 05/01/2013, at 3:19 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi folks,

a huge shock when going to the tutorial pages for MacKeeper..they're
infected!!!

Gefendok.org is a malware producer apparently. Proceed with caution if
you're using MacKeeper.

Best,
*
Ken Jackson
*

k...@littleriverstudios.com.au

kenjackson7...@gmail.com

T 08 9376 1680
M 0450 400 772
Skype kennyj1098
www.littleriverstudios.com.au
*
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*

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Re: MacKeeper

2013-01-10 Thread Julie Bedford

I purchased Mac Zapper and rid myself of Mac Keeper - what a waste of money
that was.
When I opened the link to Mac Zapper, on the same page it was advertising
MacKeeper !!

Thanks for your help

Jewels

On 10/01/2013, at 8:42 PM, Stuart Breden wrote:

Yes, did so.

Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266

Please consider the environment before printing this email

On 10/01/2013, at 8:38 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

Stuart,

Check that AppZapper removed every associated file as I mentioned below.

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 10/01/2013, at 8:25 PM, Stuart Breden bred...@highway1.biz wrote:

Yes, I've heard this before and removed it on all my devices using
AppZapper.

Stuart Breden
PO Box 132
Kalamunda WA 6926
Ph: (08) 9257 1577
Mbl: 0417 053 266

Please consider the environment before printing this email

On 06/01/2013, at 7:35 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

Hi Ken,

How many times have I posted to WAMUG about the dangers of installing and
using MacKeeper??
MacKeeper is awful. It's been described as junkware and is known to
cause all sorts of problems.
The best I can advise you is to completely remove it from your machine.
You may have to live with whatever data loss it caused.

Hopefully you've been making backups with Time Machine or another program
and can recover your data that way.

This email to WAMUG I posted back in May 2011:
/Begin Quote:
Hi Brian,

Have recently installed MacKeeper and let it do its 'magic' but no other
major changes.

Do its ‘magic’ … ?

Only recently I had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’
MacKeeper had done to his MacBook Pro.
What you have mentioned below were some of the symptoms he was
experiencing before the MBP virtually stopped completely.

This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating
System, without your knowing.

I know it is advertised recommended all over the Internet, but I would
never recommend installing this Application.
I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.

I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do and how difficult it is to
uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the place even after
you ’think’ it is uninstalled.
When they open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within
these are the files MacKeeper left over on their computer.

Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they
‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:

I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore
after trying to delete MacKeeper.

I used this uninstaller once and still found some associated MacKeeper
‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.

Cheers,
Ronni
/End Quote

On 05/01/2013, at 3:19 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi folks,

a huge shock when going to the tutorial pages for MacKeeper..they're
infected!!!

Gefendok.org is a malware producer apparently. Proceed with caution if
you're using MacKeeper.

Best,
*
Ken Jackson
*

k...@littleriverstudios.com.au

kenjackson7...@gmail.com

T 08 9376 1680
M 0450 400 772
Skype kennyj1098
www.littleriverstudios.com.au
*
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*

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Re: Firefox / Mackeeper Web Site

2013-01-09 Thread Diana Graham Stevens

No reply. Obviously a frivolous and unworthy question. I found the answer but 
it took a long time. 

I have never been good at finding things in indexes, archives, web sites, 
search engines etc. Now I am old, my concentration and memory are not so hot. 
At present I can't use my right arm so everything takes longer.

In the old days, before this became a professional list, someone would have 
pointed me in the direction of the startup in safe mode and reset. But now the 
number of people who can post messages is reduced and the professionals are too 
busy.

I have belonged to WAMUG for years (No. 0892) and, though it was not required, 
I have been financial most of the time. I considered it was good value for 
money, now that is no longer the case.

Diana

On 09/01/2013, at 7:15 AM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:

 Good morning all
 
 I hope this gets through, I keep meaning to pay my sub!
 
 Graham had a problem with Mackeeper showing up when he opened Firefox. I 
 discovered his home page setting had been altered and changed it back. He did 
 not install Mackeeper.
 
 This morning there is a small window at the top left which says:
 An attempt to change your home page and default search has been blocked.
 Click here to change your settings.
 
 I can't get rid of the window, it is 'frozen'. He has Pop Ups blocked with 
 exceptions for banks and adobe only.
 
 Quitting, shutting down and restarting does not work. How can I fix this? Are 
 there any dire security implications?
 
 InteliMac 3.06 Intel Core i3 8GB 1333MHz DDR, Firefox 17.0.1
 
 Best wishes from Diana
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Re: Firefox / Mackeeper Web Site

2013-01-09 Thread Ronda Brown

Hey Diana,

Your comments are very unfair! Both Daniel and I are professionals and we give 
(and have been giving for years) so much of our time to give high quality 
support to WAMUG Mailing list members.

Sometimes it is impossible for us to answer every question immediately, but we 
try to answer as soon as we are able to.

I also have always been a financial member of WAMUG, until I was awarded an 
Honorary Membership... And I have never asked for help... Only ever given my 
support and help to other members.

I am upset with your comments as I certainly put myself under extreme pressure 
to do as much work as I do for the mailing list members. Like Daniel 20 hour 
days are normal work days for us, finding time to eat or sleep is not easy for 
us.

Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 09/01/2013, at 4:03 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 No reply. Obviously a frivolous and unworthy question. I found the answer but 
 it took a long time. 
 
 I have never been good at finding things in indexes, archives, web sites, 
 search engines etc. Now I am old, my concentration and memory are not so hot. 
 At present I can't use my right arm so everything takes longer.
 
 In the old days, before this became a professional list, someone would have 
 pointed me in the direction of the startup in safe mode and reset. But now 
 the number of people who can post messages is reduced and the professionals 
 are too busy.
 
 I have belonged to WAMUG for years (No. 0892) and, though it was not 
 required, I have been financial most of the time. I considered it was good 
 value for money, now that is no longer the case.
 
 Diana
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 7:15 AM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:
 
 Good morning all
 
 I hope this gets through, I keep meaning to pay my sub!
 
 Graham had a problem with Mackeeper showing up when he opened Firefox. I 
 discovered his home page setting had been altered and changed it back. He 
 did not install Mackeeper.
 
 This morning there is a small window at the top left which says:
 An attempt to change your home page and default search has been blocked.
 Click here to change your settings.
 
 I can't get rid of the window, it is 'frozen'. He has Pop Ups blocked with 
 exceptions for banks and adobe only.
 
 Quitting, shutting down and restarting does not work. How can I fix this? 
 Are there any dire security implications?
 
 InteliMac 3.06 Intel Core i3 8GB 1333MHz DDR, Firefox 17.0.1
 
 Best wishes from Diana
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Re: Firefox / Mackeeper Web Site

2013-01-09 Thread Diana Graham Stevens

Hi Ronni

I am not complaining about you or anyone else but about WAMUG becoming a closed 
list which means there are less people to answer questions. A previous question 
of mine was never answered. 

My problem was not one that needed your expertise, just someone who is familiar 
with Firefox, I haven't used it for ages. The position of the frozen window 
meant you could not hit the previous page button, not fatal but very annoying.

Diana

On 09/01/2013, at 4:24 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hey Diana,
 
 Your comments are very unfair! Both Daniel and I are professionals and we 
 give (and have been giving for years) so much of our time to give high 
 quality support to WAMUG Mailing list members.
 
 Sometimes it is impossible for us to answer every question immediately, but 
 we try to answer as soon as we are able to.
 
 I also have always been a financial member of WAMUG, until I was awarded an 
 Honorary Membership... And I have never asked for help... Only ever given my 
 support and help to other members.
 
 I am upset with your comments as I certainly put myself under extreme 
 pressure to do as much work as I do for the mailing list members. Like Daniel 
 20 hour days are normal work days for us, finding time to eat or sleep is not 
 easy for us.
 
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 4:03 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au 
 wrote:
 
 No reply. Obviously a frivolous and unworthy question. I found the answer 
 but it took a long time. 
 
 I have never been good at finding things in indexes, archives, web sites, 
 search engines etc. Now I am old, my concentration and memory are not so 
 hot. At present I can't use my right arm so everything takes longer.
 
 In the old days, before this became a professional list, someone would have 
 pointed me in the direction of the startup in safe mode and reset. But now 
 the number of people who can post messages is reduced and the professionals 
 are too busy.
 
 I have belonged to WAMUG for years (No. 0892) and, though it was not 
 required, I have been financial most of the time. I considered it was good 
 value for money, now that is no longer the case.
 
 Diana
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 7:15 AM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:
 
 Good morning all
 
 I hope this gets through, I keep meaning to pay my sub!
 
 Graham had a problem with Mackeeper showing up when he opened Firefox. I 
 discovered his home page setting had been altered and changed it back. He 
 did not install Mackeeper.
 
 This morning there is a small window at the top left which says:
 An attempt to change your home page and default search has been blocked.
 Click here to change your settings.
 
 I can't get rid of the window, it is 'frozen'. He has Pop Ups blocked with 
 exceptions for banks and adobe only.
 
 Quitting, shutting down and restarting does not work. How can I fix this? 
 Are there any dire security implications?
 
 InteliMac 3.06 Intel Core i3 8GB 1333MHz DDR, Firefox 17.0.1
 
 Best wishes from Diana
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Re: Firefox / Mackeeper Web Site

2013-01-09 Thread Susan Hastings

Diana, I feel that your complaint is most unfair. People at work may not even 
read their emails until the evenings, yet you expected to have an answer the 
same day! I usually don't know how to solve the problems people post, so remain 
quiet.

Ronni really puts a huge amount of time and effort into this list, which is why 
she finds it so exasperating that people don't do their own research. I often 
use google for queries, it's pretty intelligent when it comes to working out 
what I want to know.

Professionals like ronni and Daniel are very responsive when it comes to 
helping people, and often follow up later if they have been too busy to respond 
on a particular day. Speaking as an older person myself I don't see why I can't 
be expected to do my own research rather than posting a question every time I 
get a little stuck.

Susan. 

Sent from my iPad

On 09/01/2013, at 4:03 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 No reply. Obviously a frivolous and unworthy question. I found the answer but 
 it took a long time. 
 
 I have never been good at finding things in indexes, archives, web sites, 
 search engines etc. Now I am old, my concentration and memory are not so hot. 
 At present I can't use my right arm so everything takes longer.
 
 In the old days, before this became a professional list, someone would have 
 pointed me in the direction of the startup in safe mode and reset. But now 
 the number of people who can post messages is reduced and the professionals 
 are too busy.
 
 I have belonged to WAMUG for years (No. 0892) and, though it was not 
 required, I have been financial most of the time. I considered it was good 
 value for money, now that is no longer the case.
 
 Diana
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 7:15 AM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:
 
 Good morning all
 
 I hope this gets through, I keep meaning to pay my sub!
 
 Graham had a problem with Mackeeper showing up when he opened Firefox. I 
 discovered his home page setting had been altered and changed it back. He 
 did not install Mackeeper.
 
 This morning there is a small window at the top left which says:
 An attempt to change your home page and default search has been blocked.
 Click here to change your settings.
 
 I can't get rid of the window, it is 'frozen'. He has Pop Ups blocked with 
 exceptions for banks and adobe only.
 
 Quitting, shutting down and restarting does not work. How can I fix this? 
 Are there any dire security implications?
 
 InteliMac 3.06 Intel Core i3 8GB 1333MHz DDR, Firefox 17.0.1
 
 Best wishes from Diana
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Re: Firefox / Mackeeper Web Site

2013-01-09 Thread Ronda Brown

Hello Diana,

I have gone back through the WAMUG mailing list archives until beginning of 
August 2012 and I cannot see any email from you that was not replied to. 
Are you sure it appeared on the the mailing list? 

Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 09/01/2013, at 5:35 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni
 
 I am not complaining about you or anyone else but about WAMUG becoming a 
 closed list which means there are less people to answer questions. A previous 
 question of mine was never answered. 
 
 My problem was not one that needed your expertise, just someone who is 
 familiar with Firefox, I haven't used it for ages. The position of the frozen 
 window meant you could not hit the previous page button, not fatal but very 
 annoying.
 
 Diana
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 4:24 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hey Diana,
 
 Your comments are very unfair! Both Daniel and I are professionals and we 
 give (and have been giving for years) so much of our time to give high 
 quality support to WAMUG Mailing list members.
 
 Sometimes it is impossible for us to answer every question immediately, but 
 we try to answer as soon as we are able to.
 
 I also have always been a financial member of WAMUG, until I was awarded an 
 Honorary Membership... And I have never asked for help... Only ever given my 
 support and help to other members.
 
 I am upset with your comments as I certainly put myself under extreme 
 pressure to do as much work as I do for the mailing list members. Like 
 Daniel 20 hour days are normal work days for us, finding time to eat or 
 sleep is not easy for us.
 
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 4:03 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au 
 wrote:
 
 No reply. Obviously a frivolous and unworthy question. I found the answer 
 but it took a long time. 
 
 I have never been good at finding things in indexes, archives, web sites, 
 search engines etc. Now I am old, my concentration and memory are not so 
 hot. At present I can't use my right arm so everything takes longer.
 
 In the old days, before this became a professional list, someone would have 
 pointed me in the direction of the startup in safe mode and reset. But now 
 the number of people who can post messages is reduced and the professionals 
 are too busy.
 
 I have belonged to WAMUG for years (No. 0892) and, though it was not 
 required, I have been financial most of the time. I considered it was good 
 value for money, now that is no longer the case.
 
 Diana
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 7:15 AM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:
 
 Good morning all
 
 I hope this gets through, I keep meaning to pay my sub!
 
 Graham had a problem with Mackeeper showing up when he opened Firefox. I 
 discovered his home page setting had been altered and changed it back. He 
 did not install Mackeeper.
 
 This morning there is a small window at the top left which says:
 An attempt to change your home page and default search has been blocked.
 Click here to change your settings.
 
 I can't get rid of the window, it is 'frozen'. He has Pop Ups blocked with 
 exceptions for banks and adobe only.
 
 Quitting, shutting down and restarting does not work. How can I fix this? 
 Are there any dire security implications?
 
 InteliMac 3.06 Intel Core i3 8GB 1333MHz DDR, Firefox 17.0.1
 
 Best wishes from Diana
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Re: Firefox / Mackeeper Web Site

2013-01-09 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 09/01/2013, at 4:03 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 No reply. Obviously a frivolous and unworthy question. I found the answer but 
 it took a long time. 
 
 I have never been good at finding things in indexes, archives, web sites, 
 search engines etc. Now I am old, my concentration and memory are not so hot. 
 At present I can't use my right arm so everything takes longer.
 
 In the old days, before this became a professional list, someone would have 
 pointed me in the direction of the startup in safe mode and reset. But now 
 the number of people who can post messages is reduced and the professionals 
 are too busy.
 
 I have belonged to WAMUG for years (No. 0892) and, though it was not 
 required, I have been financial most of the time. I considered it was good 
 value for money, now that is no longer the case.
 
 Diana
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 7:15 AM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:
 
 

I'm always happy to jump in and answer questions if (a) I feel that nobody else 
has already addressed it and (b) I feel I can answer it it in a competent way, 
and in a reasonable timeframe. Some situations, however, and yours falls into 
this category, are simply too atypical to be able to be evaluated without 
physical access to the computer. There comes a point with some situations where 
they may never be answered adequately in an online forum like this. It 
certainly should not be interpreted that your problem is frivolous or unworthy 
- just the opposite! The easy ones will always get answered. The others will 
get answered to a lesser or greater degree depending on the experience of those 
who are able to help. 

Personally, I find the level of help provided on this list to be astounding at 
times, and there have been many times where the help given has gone above and 
beyond the call of duty, I feel. If your question had gone unanswered, it is 
most likely because it cannot be easily answered in a forum context, not 
because it is considered trivial. 

Give me the trivial ones - I'll always answer 'em...  

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: Firefox / Mackeeper Web Site

2013-01-09 Thread Diana Graham Stevens

Hi Ronni, Susan  Peter

One email for all as I am typing with my left hand.

The message is in the archives, you did not go quite far enough, it was 27 Jul 
2012. It was about how to transfer Filemaker Pro from one machine to another 
without the installer. In the end I did a Finder copy. It will open my files 
but I have yet to find if it is fully functional.

Yesterday's problem had a really simple solution, it was there under the Help 
menu if you knew what to look for. That is why I felt sure that someone on the 
list must have known this.

In the old days there were usually multiple quick responses to queries. I would 
never ask a question if I had to go out because I would not be there to respond 
to replies. Now nearly all the queries are answered by Ronni and Daniel. Back 
then they answered some questions but there were many others, people who worked 
in other fields and lots of retirees. Now a lot of retired people can't afford 
to pay so we have lost all their input. That is what I was complaining about.

When I said 'the professionals are too busy' that was a statement of fact, not 
a complaint. Ronni took it as a personal criticism, that was not the intention 
at all. I don't believe the people who make a living from providing Mac Support 
Services should have to answer all our questions for free.

Ronni, Daniel and others provide a very high standard of service, as Peter said 
'above and beyond the call of duty', I have never suggested otherwise.

I'm sorry if I caused offence, it was unintentional. I am just a dinosaur who 
prefers the old list.

I have had one cheering message from an ex-lister.

Diana

On 09/01/2013, at 10:24 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hello Diana,
 
 I have gone back through the WAMUG mailing list archives until beginning of 
 August 2012 and I cannot see any email from you that was not replied to. 
 Are you sure it appeared on the the mailing list? 
 
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 5:35 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 I am not complaining about you or anyone else but about WAMUG becoming a 
 closed list which means there are less people to answer questions. A 
 previous question of mine was never answered. 
 
 My problem was not one that needed your expertise, just someone who is 
 familiar with Firefox, I haven't used it for ages. The position of the 
 frozen window meant you could not hit the previous page button, not fatal 
 but very annoying.
 
 Diana
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 4:24 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hey Diana,
 
 Your comments are very unfair! Both Daniel and I are professionals and we 
 give (and have been giving for years) so much of our time to give high 
 quality support to WAMUG Mailing list members.
 
 Sometimes it is impossible for us to answer every question immediately, but 
 we try to answer as soon as we are able to.
 
 I also have always been a financial member of WAMUG, until I was awarded an 
 Honorary Membership... And I have never asked for help... Only ever given 
 my support and help to other members.
 
 I am upset with your comments as I certainly put myself under extreme 
 pressure to do as much work as I do for the mailing list members. Like 
 Daniel 20 hour days are normal work days for us, finding time to eat or 
 sleep is not easy for us.
 
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 4:03 PM, Diana  Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au 
 wrote:
 
 No reply. Obviously a frivolous and unworthy question. I found the answer 
 but it took a long time. 
 
 I have never been good at finding things in indexes, archives, web sites, 
 search engines etc. Now I am old, my concentration and memory are not so 
 hot. At present I can't use my right arm so everything takes longer.
 
 In the old days, before this became a professional list, someone would 
 have pointed me in the direction of the startup in safe mode and reset. 
 But now the number of people who can post messages is reduced and the 
 professionals are too busy.
 
 I have belonged to WAMUG for years (No. 0892) and, though it was not 
 required, I have been financial most of the time. I considered it was good 
 value for money, now that is no longer the case.
 
 Diana
 
 On 09/01/2013, at 7:15 AM, Diana  Graham Stevens wrote:
 
 Good morning all
 
 I hope this gets through, I keep meaning to pay my sub!
 
 Graham had a problem with Mackeeper showing up when he opened Firefox. I 
 discovered his home page setting had been altered and changed it back. He 
 did not install Mackeeper.
 
 This morning there is a small window at the top left which says:
 An attempt to change your home page and default search has been blocked.
 Click here to change your settings.
 
 I can't get rid of the window, it is 'frozen'. He has Pop Ups blocked 
 with exceptions for banks and adobe only.
 
 Quitting, shutting down and restarting does not work. How can I fix this? 
 Are there any dire security implications?
 
 InteliMac 3.06 Intel Core i3 8GB

Firefox / Mackeeper Web Site

2013-01-08 Thread Diana Graham Stevens

Good morning all

I hope this gets through, I keep meaning to pay my sub!

Graham had a problem with Mackeeper showing up when he opened Firefox. I 
discovered his home page setting had been altered and changed it back. He did 
not install Mackeeper.

This morning there is a small window at the top left which says:
An attempt to change your home page and default search has been blocked.
Click here to change your settings.

I can't get rid of the window, it is 'frozen'. He has Pop Ups blocked with 
exceptions for banks and adobe only.

Quitting, shutting down and restarting does not work. How can I fix this? Are 
there any dire security implications?

InteliMac 3.06 Intel Core i3 8GB 1333MHz DDR, Firefox 17.0.1

Best wishes from Diana
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Re: MacKeeper

2013-01-06 Thread Ronni Brown

Hi Ken,

How many times have I posted to WAMUG about the dangers of installing and using
MacKeeper??
MacKeeper is awful. It's been described as junkware and is known to cause all
sorts of problems.
The best I can advise you is to completely remove it from your machine.
You may have to live with whatever data loss it caused.

Hopefully you've been making backups with Time Machine or another program and
can recover your data that way.

This email to WAMUG I posted back in May 2011:
/Begin Quote:
Hi Brian,

Have recently installed MacKeeper and let it do its 'magic' but no other major
changes.

Do its ‘magic’ … ?

This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System,
without your knowing.

I know it is advertised recommended all over the Internet, but I would never
recommend installing this Application.
I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.

I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do and how difficult it is to
uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the place even after you
’think’ it is uninstalled.
When they open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within these are
the files MacKeeper left over on their computer.

Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they
‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:

I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore after
trying to delete MacKeeper.

It does need to be uninstalled correctly to get rid of all the associated files.
There is an uninstaller now with the latest version and their support say that
it totally removes all the components of the App.

/Quote:
So to remove the app one should just move it to the trash, fill in the survey
form containing the question about what's the reason of your desire to
uninstall MacKeeper, and finally press 'uninstall' button - that will totally
remove all the components of the app.”
/End Quote:

I used this uninstaller once and still found some associated MacKeeper
‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.

I would suggest you get rid of MacKeeper completely, do a “Repair Permissions”
after.
I would also, boot from the Snow Leopard Installation disk use Disk Utility
(on the Installer Disc) to ‘Repair Disk’.

Cheers,
Ronni
/End Quote

On 05/01/2013, at 3:19 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi folks,

a huge shock when going to the tutorial pages for MacKeeper..they're
infected!!!

Gefendok.org is a malware producer apparently. Proceed with caution if
you're using MacKeeper.

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Re: MacKeeper

2013-01-06 Thread Ronda Brown

I cannot believe after all the warnings we have given on WAMUG Mailing list, 
that members are still installing MacKeeper. We do the research, we advise 
members, if members don't take notice of that advice... Well... Sometimes I 
wonder why I bother to give support.

If you don't believe what I have said about this malware, perhaps you should 
read these articles below.
MacKeeper has been described by various sources as highly invasive malware* 
that can de-stablize your operating system, adding that it is unethically 
marketed, with a history of making false advertising claims, by a company 
called Zeobit and a rip-off.

Further opinion on it and how to uninstall MacKeeper malware can be read here:
 
http://applehelpwriter.com/2011/09/21/how-to-uninstall-mackeeper-malware/
 
MacKeeper have recently said that the uninstaller from here:
 
http://applehelpwriter.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/how-to-uninstall-mackeeper-malwa
 re/
 
now works.
 
This is also worth reading:
 
http://www.reedcorner.net/news.php/?p=245
 

Cheers,
Ronni


Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 06/01/2013, at 7:35 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Ken,
 
 How many times have I posted to WAMUG about the dangers of installing and 
 using MacKeeper??
 MacKeeper is awful. It's been described as junkware and is known to cause 
 all sorts of problems. 
 The best I can advise you is to completely remove it from your machine. 
 You may have to live with whatever data loss it caused.
 
 Hopefully you've been making backups with Time Machine or another program and 
 can recover your data that way.
 
 This email to WAMUG I posted back in May 2011:
 /Begin Quote:
 Hi Brian,
 
 Have recently installed MacKeeper and let it do its 'magic' but no other 
 major changes.
 
 Do its ‘magic’ … ?
 
 Only recently I had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’ 
 MacKeeper had done to his MacBook Pro.
 What you have mentioned below were some of the symptoms he was experiencing 
 before the MBP virtually stopped completely.
 
 This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System,  
 without your knowing.
 
 I know it is advertised  recommended all over the Internet, but I would 
 never recommend installing this Application.
 I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.
 
 I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do and how difficult it is to 
 uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the place even after 
 you ’think’ it is uninstalled.
 When they open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within these 
 are the files  MacKeeper left over on their computer.
 
 Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they 
 ‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:
 
 /Library/Application Support/MacKeeper
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 ~/Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 ~/Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
 ~/Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
 
 I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore after 
 trying to delete MacKeeper.
 
 It does need to be uninstalled correctly to get rid of all the associated 
 files.
 There is an uninstaller now with the latest version and their support say 
 that it totally removes all the components of the App.
 
 /Quote:
 So to remove the app one should just move it to the trash, fill in the 
 survey form containing the question about what's the reason of your desire to 
 uninstall MacKeeper, and finally press 'uninstall' button - that will totally 
 remove all the components of the app.”
 /End Quote:
 
 I used this uninstaller once and still found some associated MacKeeper 
 ‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
 as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.
 
 I would suggest you get rid of MacKeeper completely, do a “Repair 
 Permissions” after.
 I would also, boot from the Snow Leopard Installation disk  use Disk Utility 
 (on the Installer Disc) to ‘Repair Disk’.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 /End Quote
 
 On 05/01/2013, at 3:19 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 a huge shock when going to the tutorial pages for MacKeeper..they're
 infected!!!
 
 Gefendok.org is a malware producer apparently. Proceed with caution if
 you're using MacKeeper.
 
 Best,
 *
 Ken Jackson
 *
 
 k...@littleriverstudios.com.au
 
  kenjackson7...@gmail.com
 
 T 08 9376 1680
 M 0450 400 772
 Skype kennyj1098
 www.littleriverstudios.com.au
 *
 http://www.facebook.com/pages/Perth-Australia/Little-River-Studios/129893967035394
 *
 
 *Say NO to spammers  remove mine  others email address when you forward 
 **and
 use BCC.!*
 
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Re: MacKeeper

2013-01-06 Thread Julie Bedford

Thank you Ronni - I feel embarrassed for not heeding your warnings.  In future, 
I will not be so unwise

Cheers
Jewels

On 07/01/2013, at 1:33 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 I cannot believe after all the warnings we have given on WAMUG Mailing list, 
 that members are still installing MacKeeper. We do the research, we advise 
 members, if members don't take notice of that advice... Well... Sometimes I 
 wonder why I bother to give support.
 
 If you don't believe what I have said about this malware, perhaps you should 
 read these articles below.
 MacKeeper has been described by various sources as highly invasive malware* 
 that can de-stablize your operating system, adding that it is unethically 
 marketed, with a history of making false advertising claims, by a company 
 called Zeobit and a rip-off.
 
 Further opinion on it and how to uninstall MacKeeper malware can be read here:
 
 http://applehelpwriter.com/2011/09/21/how-to-uninstall-mackeeper-malware/
 
 MacKeeper have recently said that the uninstaller from here:
 
 http://applehelpwriter.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/how-to-uninstall-mackeeper-malwa
  re/
 
 now works.
 
 This is also worth reading:
 
 http://www.reedcorner.net/news.php/?p=245
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 06/01/2013, at 7:35 PM, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ken,
 
 How many times have I posted to WAMUG about the dangers of installing and 
 using MacKeeper??
 MacKeeper is awful. It's been described as junkware and is known to cause 
 all sorts of problems. 
 The best I can advise you is to completely remove it from your machine. 
 You may have to live with whatever data loss it caused.
 
 Hopefully you've been making backups with Time Machine or another program 
 and can recover your data that way.
 
 This email to WAMUG I posted back in May 2011:
 /Begin Quote:
 Hi Brian,
 
 Have recently installed MacKeeper and let it do its 'magic' but no other 
 major changes.
 
 Do its ‘magic’ … ?
 
 Only recently I had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’ 
 MacKeeper had done to his MacBook Pro.
 What you have mentioned below were some of the symptoms he was experiencing 
 before the MBP virtually stopped completely.
 
 This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System,  
 without your knowing.
 
 I know it is advertised  recommended all over the Internet, but I would 
 never recommend installing this Application.
 I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.
 
 I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do and how difficult it is to 
 uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the place even after 
 you ’think’ it is uninstalled.
 When they open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within these 
 are the files  MacKeeper left over on their computer.
 
 Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they 
 ‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:
 
 /Library/Application Support/MacKeeper
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 ~/Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 ~/Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
 ~/Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
 
 I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore after 
 trying to delete MacKeeper.
 
 It does need to be uninstalled correctly to get rid of all the associated 
 files.
 There is an uninstaller now with the latest version and their support say 
 that it totally removes all the components of the App.
 
 /Quote:
 So to remove the app one should just move it to the trash, fill in the 
 survey form containing the question about what's the reason of your desire 
 to uninstall MacKeeper, and finally press 'uninstall' button - that will 
 totally remove all the components of the app.”
 /End Quote:
 
 I used this uninstaller once and still found some associated MacKeeper 
 ‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
 as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.
 
 I would suggest you get rid of MacKeeper completely, do a “Repair 
 Permissions” after.
 I would also, boot from the Snow Leopard Installation disk  use Disk 
 Utility (on the Installer Disc) to ‘Repair Disk’.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 /End Quote
 
 On 05/01/2013, at 3:19 PM, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 a huge shock when going to the tutorial pages for MacKeeper..they're
 infected!!!
 
 Gefendok.org is a malware producer apparently. Proceed with caution if
 you're using MacKeeper.
 
 Best,
 *
 Ken Jackson
 *
 
 k...@littleriverstudios.com.au
 
 kenjackson7...@gmail.com
 
 T 08 9376 1680
 M 0450 400 772
 Skype kennyj1098
 www.littleriverstudios.com.au
 *
 http://www.facebook.com/pages/Perth-Australia/Little-River-Studios/129893967035394
 *
 
 *Say NO to spammers  remove mine

Re: Interesting Video Highlight of Tim Cook's D10 Interview/ MacKeeper Application

2012-06-03 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Andrew,

On 03/06/2012, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Schox wrote:
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Is there an app that you do recommend to perform general system maintenance 
 and tidy ups?

Mac OS X, because it is UNIX, does its own maintenance by automatically running 
background tasks (on a pre-determined schedule) to do such things as delete 
temporary files, clean up log files, and remove system files that are no longer 
needed. 

These system maintenance procedures can help prevent problems on your computer 
and keep certain log files from becoming too large, keeping your computer 
running smoothly.

The system maintenance is broken into three parts: daily, weekly, and monthly 
maintenance. 
By default, your OS X has it scheduled to occur at 3:15 A.M. everyday, 4:30 
A.M. on Saturdays, and 5:30 A.M. on the first day of each month (in your local 
time zone)

In Mac OS X v10.6 and later, background maintenance tasks that do not run when 
the computer is asleep are run after it wakes from sleep mode. 

The launchd daemon runs the same maintenance scripts that cron once did, two 
OS’s ago. 
Launchd is set up to run its tasks at the next opportunity following the 
scheduled time.

If you want to check when each was run on your Mac:
In Lion - Applications  Utilities  Console.app
/var/log  and look at the entries for daily.out, weekly.out and 
monthly.out 

I believe 'A good Back Up Strategy and Regular Maintenance are the two most 
important things'.

Keep you Software UpToDate, run Software Update regularly
Check your Applications for updates
Repair Permissions before and after Software Updates.
Boot from your Installation Disk in Snow Leopard, Lion Recovery HD Partition in 
Lion and use Disk Utility to  Repair Disk
Keep at least 20-30% Free space on your Hard Drive
Keep your Desktop Clean

But after saying all the above,  to answer your specific question ;-)

I have used CleanMyMac successfully for many years and I have posted to WAMUG 
about it back in 2009.
With using software like this, you need to be VERY careful, understand what the 
software does and make sure you know what you are doing, and what damage it can 
do if used incorrectly!

1. First thing to do is download the Manual and read it: 
http://dl.macpaw.com/manuals/CleanMyMacUserGuide.pdf

2. Read the Frequently Asked Questions:  http://macpaw.com/faq 
Read Is CleanMyMac Safe To Use? 
http://macpaw.com/blog/is_cleanmymac_safe_to_use
Read Is Cleaning My Mac Safe? 
http://macpaw.com/knowledgebase/cleanmymac/is-cleaning-my-mac-safe/

3. Understand and Set CleanMyMac's Preferences before you use it.

I have never had any problems using CleanMyMac, it is well recommended, but I 
take no responsibility.
 All Care Given but No Responsibility


Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.4 Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)





 
 On 03/06/2012, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Oh Stuart,
 
 MacKeeper is a dangerous application, it can do a lot of damage to your 
 operating system.
 
 On 03/06/2012, at 9:40 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:
 
 May work now because yesterday I scanned the iMac with macKeeper and there 
 were about 250 fixes.
 
 You obviously have either NOT read, or have chosen to ignore my posts and 
 other members posts on the dangers of installing and using MacKeeper. Do a 
 search on Google or Apple Discussions,  you will find heaps of threads 
 similar to this one, still going in May 2012: 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2786697?start=0tstart=0
 
 Back in May 2011 in response to one of our members who was experiencing 
 system problems with his MacBook Pro possibly caused by installing and 
 running MacKeeper, I posted this:
 
 /Begin Extract Quote from my email to WAMUG:
 
  Only recently I had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’ 
 MacKeeper had done to his MacBook Pro.
 What you have mentioned below were some of the symptoms he was experiencing 
 before the MBP virtually stopped completely.
 
 This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System, 
 without your knowing.
 
 I know it is advertised  recommended all over the Internet, but I would 
 never recommend installing this Application.
 I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.
 
 I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do, and how difficult it is to 
 uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the system even after 
 you ’think’ it is uninstalled.
 When people open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within 
 these are the files MacKeeper left over on their computer.
 
 Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they 
 ‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:
 
 /Library/Application Support/MacKeeper
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 ~/Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 ~/Library/Preference

Re: Interesting Video Highlight of Tim Cook's D10 Interview/ MacKeeper Application

2012-06-03 Thread Stephen Chape

Hi Andrew .. I have used TechTool Pro for some time now.
Very happy with it.

On 03/06/2012, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Schox wrote:

 Hi Ronni,
 
 Is there an app that you do recommend to perform general system maintenance 
 and tidy ups?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Andrew
 
 On 03/06/2012, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Oh Stuart,
 
 MacKeeper is a dangerous application, it can do a lot of damage to your 
 operating system.
 
 On 03/06/2012, at 9:40 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:
 
 May work now because yesterday I scanned the iMac with macKeeper and there 
 were about 250 fixes.
 
 You obviously have either NOT read, or have chosen to ignore my posts and 
 other members posts on the dangers of installing and using MacKeeper. Do a 
 search on Google or Apple Discussions,  you will find heaps of threads 
 similar to this one, still going in May 2012: 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2786697?start=0tstart=0
 
 Back in May 2011 in response to one of our members who was experiencing 
 system problems with his MacBook Pro possibly caused by installing and 
 running MacKeeper, I posted this:
 
 /Begin Extract Quote from my email to WAMUG:
 
  Only recently I had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’ 
 MacKeeper had done to his MacBook Pro.
 What you have mentioned below were some of the symptoms he was experiencing 
 before the MBP virtually stopped completely.
 
 This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System, 
 without your knowing.
 
 I know it is advertised  recommended all over the Internet, but I would 
 never recommend installing this Application.
 I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.
 
 I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do, and how difficult it is to 
 uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the system even after 
 you ’think’ it is uninstalled.
 When people open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within 
 these are the files MacKeeper left over on their computer.
 
 Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they 
 ‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:
 
 /Library/Application Support/MacKeeper
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 ~/Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 ~/Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
 ~/Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
 
 I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore after 
 trying to delete MacKeeper.
 
 It does need to be uninstalled correctly to get rid of all the associated 
 files.
 There is an uninstaller now with the latest version and their support say 
 that it totally removes all the components of the App.
 
 So to remove the app one should just move it to the trash, fill in the 
 survey form containing the question about what's the reason of your desire 
 to uninstall MacKeeper, and finally press 'uninstall' button - that will 
 totally remove all the components of the app.”
 
 I've used this uninstaller and still found some associated MacKeeper 
 ‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
 as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.
 
 I would suggest you get rid of MacKeeper completely, do a “Repair 
 Permissions” after.
 I would also, boot from the Snow Leopard Installation disk  use Disk 
 Utility (on the Installer Disc) to ‘Repair Disk’.
 
 /End Extract Quote from my email to WAMUG
 
 If you want to completely remove MacKeeper application from your Mac you 
 need to delete these files.
 
 In Application folder:
 - /Applications/MacKeeper.app
 
 In system Library:
 - /Library/Application/Support/MacKeeper
 - /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 - /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 
 In User Library:
 - /Users//Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
 - /Users//Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
 - /Users//Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
 - /Users//Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
 - /Users//Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 
 In Keychain Access utility: - all zeobit passwords
 
 Check In Activity Monitor for MacKeeper Helper … Quit it.
 As soon as you Quit it, go  Uninstall.
 
 Note: After uninstalling MacKeeper: If you are using Lion OS X 10.7.4 - Boot 
 to the Recovery Partition, and run Disk Utility from there, to Repair Disk.
 After running Repair Disk, reboot to the main partition, and run Repair 
 Permissions from Disk Utility.
 
 Similar details can be found at this link:
 http://applehelpwriter.com/2011/09/21/how-to-uninstall-mackeeper-malware/
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.4 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance

Re: Interesting Video Highlight of Tim Cook's D10 Interview/ MacKeeper Application

2012-06-03 Thread Andrew Schox

Thanks Stephen and Ronni for your suggestions.

BTW. Sorry Stuart, I seem to have hijacked your thread :-(

Cheers,

Andrew

On 03/06/2012, at 5:54 PM, Stephen Chape wrote:

 Hi Andrew .. I have used TechTool Pro for some time now.
 Very happy with it.
 
 On 03/06/2012, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Schox wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 Is there an app that you do recommend to perform general system maintenance 
 and tidy ups?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Andrew
 
 On 03/06/2012, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Oh Stuart,
 
 MacKeeper is a dangerous application, it can do a lot of damage to your 
 operating system.
 
 On 03/06/2012, at 9:40 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:
 
 May work now because yesterday I scanned the iMac with macKeeper and there 
 were about 250 fixes.
 
 You obviously have either NOT read, or have chosen to ignore my posts and 
 other members posts on the dangers of installing and using MacKeeper. Do a 
 search on Google or Apple Discussions,  you will find heaps of threads 
 similar to this one, still going in May 2012: 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2786697?start=0tstart=0
 
 Back in May 2011 in response to one of our members who was experiencing 
 system problems with his MacBook Pro possibly caused by installing and 
 running MacKeeper, I posted this:
 
 /Begin Extract Quote from my email to WAMUG:
 
  Only recently I had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’ 
 MacKeeper had done to his MacBook Pro.
 What you have mentioned below were some of the symptoms he was experiencing 
 before the MBP virtually stopped completely.
 
 This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System, 
 without your knowing.
 
 I know it is advertised  recommended all over the Internet, but I would 
 never recommend installing this Application.
 I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.
 
 I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do, and how difficult it is to 
 uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the system even after 
 you ’think’ it is uninstalled.
 When people open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within 
 these are the files MacKeeper left over on their computer.
 
 Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they 
 ‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:
 
 /Library/Application Support/MacKeeper
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 ~/Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 ~/Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
 ~/Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
 
 I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore 
 after trying to delete MacKeeper.
 
 It does need to be uninstalled correctly to get rid of all the associated 
 files.
 There is an uninstaller now with the latest version and their support say 
 that it totally removes all the components of the App.
 
 So to remove the app one should just move it to the trash, fill in the 
 survey form containing the question about what's the reason of your desire 
 to uninstall MacKeeper, and finally press 'uninstall' button - that will 
 totally remove all the components of the app.”
 
 I've used this uninstaller and still found some associated MacKeeper 
 ‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
 as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.
 
 I would suggest you get rid of MacKeeper completely, do a “Repair 
 Permissions” after.
 I would also, boot from the Snow Leopard Installation disk  use Disk 
 Utility (on the Installer Disc) to ‘Repair Disk’.
 
 /End Extract Quote from my email to WAMUG
 
 If you want to completely remove MacKeeper application from your Mac you 
 need to delete these files.
 
 In Application folder:
 - /Applications/MacKeeper.app
 
 In system Library:
 - /Library/Application/Support/MacKeeper
 - /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 - /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 
 In User Library:
 - /Users//Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
 - /Users//Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
 - /Users//Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
 - /Users//Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
 - /Users//Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 
 In Keychain Access utility: - all zeobit passwords
 
 Check In Activity Monitor for MacKeeper Helper … Quit it.
 As soon as you Quit it, go  Uninstall.
 
 Note: After uninstalling MacKeeper: If you are using Lion OS X 10.7.4 - 
 Boot to the Recovery Partition, and run Disk Utility from there, to Repair 
 Disk.
 After running Repair Disk, reboot to the main partition, and run Repair 
 Permissions from Disk Utility.
 
 Similar details can be found at this link:
 http://applehelpwriter.com/2011/09/21/how-to-uninstall-mackeeper

MacKeeper now gone but found interesting keychain certificates along the way

2012-06-03 Thread Brian Risbey

Hi all,

Yes, I just uninstalled MacKeeper ( I did like the software version/ updater) 

and while in keychains found these two certificates:

Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA - 

a...@j2anywhere.com

I 'BINGed' them and didn't understand what came up so,
I have deleted them, (hope that was okay!)

what are the thoughts on 'unknown' certificates, some with odd expiry dates?

Thank you Ronnie, again, and I used the 'apple help writer' link too.

Brian


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Re: MacKeeper now gone but found interesting keychain certificates along the way

2012-06-03 Thread Daniel Kerr

Have a look at MacUpdate Desktop. Not a free thing, but it does look at your 
software installed and advise when updates are needed for it.
It's very useful. And works 10,000 times better then (argh) MacKeeper :oP

That certificate I believe comes from someone on list who uses certified 
email…..(long story short)….
But yes, no harm in getting rid of them, won't cause an issue

Kind regards
Daniel

Ronni may have more to add I'm sure ;o))

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Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
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On 03/06/2012, at 10:50 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Yes, I just uninstalled MacKeeper ( I did like the software version/ updater) 
 
 and while in keychains found these two certificates:
 
 Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA - 
 
 a...@j2anywhere.com
 
 I 'BINGed' them and didn't understand what came up so,
 I have deleted them, (hope that was okay!)
 
 what are the thoughts on 'unknown' certificates, some with odd expiry dates?
 
 Thank you Ronnie, again, and I used the 'apple help writer' link too.
 
 Brian
 
 
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Re: MacKeeper now gone but found interesting keychain certificates along the way

2012-06-03 Thread Brian Risbey

Thank you Daniel, for that suggestion

Now time for some shut eye 

Brian





On 04/06/2012, at 12:41 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

Have a look at MacUpdate Desktop. Not a free thing, but it does look at your 
software installed and advise when updates are needed for it.
It's very useful. And works 10,000 times better then (argh) MacKeeper :oP

That certificate I believe comes from someone on list who uses certified 
email…..(long story short)….
But yes, no harm in getting rid of them, won't cause an issue

Kind regards
Daniel

Ronni may have more to add I'm sure ;o))

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On 03/06/2012, at 10:50 PM, Brian Risbey wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Yes, I just uninstalled MacKeeper ( I did like the software version/ updater) 
 
 and while in keychains found these two certificates:
 
 Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA - 
 
 a...@j2anywhere.com
 
 I 'BINGed' them and didn't understand what came up so,
 I have deleted them, (hope that was okay!)
 
 what are the thoughts on 'unknown' certificates, some with odd expiry dates?
 
 Thank you Ronnie, again, and I used the 'apple help writer' link too.
 
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Re: Interesting Video Highlight of Tim Cook's D10 Interview/ MacKeeper Application

2012-06-02 Thread Ronda Brown

Oh Stuart,

MacKeeper is a dangerous application, it can do a lot of damage to your 
operating system.

On 03/06/2012, at 9:40 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:

 May work now because yesterday I scanned the iMac with macKeeper and there 
 were about 250 fixes.

You obviously have either NOT read, or have chosen to ignore my posts and other 
members posts on the dangers of installing and using MacKeeper. Do a search on 
Google or Apple Discussions,  you will find heaps of threads similar to this 
one, still going in May 2012: 
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2786697?start=0tstart=0

Back in May 2011 in response to one of our members who was experiencing system 
problems with his MacBook Pro possibly caused by installing and running 
MacKeeper, I posted this:

/Begin Extract Quote from my email to WAMUG:

 Only recently I had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’ 
MacKeeper had done to his MacBook Pro.
What you have mentioned below were some of the symptoms he was experiencing 
before the MBP virtually stopped completely.

This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System, 
without your knowing.

I know it is advertised  recommended all over the Internet, but I would never 
recommend installing this Application.
I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.

I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do, and how difficult it is to 
uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the system even after you 
’think’ it is uninstalled.
When people open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within these 
are the files MacKeeper left over on their computer.

Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they 
‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:

/Library/Application Support/MacKeeper
/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
~/Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
~/Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
~/Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper

I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore after 
trying to delete MacKeeper.

It does need to be uninstalled correctly to get rid of all the associated files.
There is an uninstaller now with the latest version and their support say that 
it totally removes all the components of the App.

So to remove the app one should just move it to the trash, fill in the survey 
form containing the question about what's the reason of your desire to 
uninstall MacKeeper, and finally press 'uninstall' button - that will totally 
remove all the components of the app.”

I've used this uninstaller and still found some associated MacKeeper 
‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.

I would suggest you get rid of MacKeeper completely, do a “Repair Permissions” 
after.
I would also, boot from the Snow Leopard Installation disk  use Disk Utility 
(on the Installer Disc) to ‘Repair Disk’.

/End Extract Quote from my email to WAMUG

If you want to completely remove MacKeeper application from your Mac you need 
to delete these files.

In Application folder:
- /Applications/MacKeeper.app

In system Library:
- /Library/Application/Support/MacKeeper
- /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
- /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus

In User Library:
- /Users//Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
- /Users//Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
- /Users//Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
- /Users//Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
- /Users//Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist

In Keychain Access utility: - all zeobit passwords

Check In Activity Monitor for MacKeeper Helper … Quit it.
As soon as you Quit it, go  Uninstall.

Note: After uninstalling MacKeeper: If you are using Lion OS X 10.7.4 - Boot to 
the Recovery Partition, and run Disk Utility from there, to Repair Disk.
After running Repair Disk, reboot to the main partition, and run Repair 
Permissions from Disk Utility.

Similar details can be found at this link:
http://applehelpwriter.com/2011/09/21/how-to-uninstall-mackeeper-malware/

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.7.4 Lion
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MacKeeper Application

2012-06-02 Thread Nathalie S. Collins

Just as an aside on this thread.

I note that MacKeeper uses some pretty annoying/inadvisable advertising 
techniques online as well. Namely:
- Pop Up Windows
- Automatic audio within and outside of pop up windows
- An inability to close pop up windows without clicking two or three times; and 
some of the click boxes look like messages from the OS

These kind of techniques are often used by gambling and porn web sites, along 
with other kinds of not safe for your operating system types of sites which 
carry viruses and malware. These kinds of techniques are designed to fool the 
less experienced Mac/PC user and that ticks me off.

Birds of a feather, in my opinion. I would no more trust MacKeeper with my 
computer than I would a gambling or porn site. 

Just my 2 cents... :-)

Nat

On 03/06/2012, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Oh Stuart,
 
 MacKeeper is a dangerous application, it can do a lot of damage to your 
 operating system.
 
 On 03/06/2012, at 9:40 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:
 
 May work now because yesterday I scanned the iMac with macKeeper and there 
 were about 250 fixes.
 
 You obviously have either NOT read, or have chosen to ignore my posts and 
 other members posts on the dangers of installing and using MacKeeper. Do a 
 search on Google or Apple Discussions,  you will find heaps of threads 
 similar to this one, still going in May 2012: 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2786697?start=0tstart=0
 
 Back in May 2011 in response to one of our members who was experiencing 
 system problems with his MacBook Pro possibly caused by installing and 
 running MacKeeper, I posted this:
 
 /Begin Extract Quote from my email to WAMUG:
 
  Only recently I had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’ 
 MacKeeper had done to his MacBook Pro.
 What you have mentioned below were some of the symptoms he was experiencing 
 before the MBP virtually stopped completely.
 
 This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System, 
 without your knowing.
 
 I know it is advertised  recommended all over the Internet, but I would 
 never recommend installing this Application.
 I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.
 
 I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do, and how difficult it is to 
 uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the system even after 
 you ’think’ it is uninstalled.
 When people open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within these 
 are the files MacKeeper left over on their computer.
 
 Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they 
 ‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:
 
 /Library/Application Support/MacKeeper
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 ~/Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 ~/Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
 ~/Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
 
 I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore after 
 trying to delete MacKeeper.
 
 It does need to be uninstalled correctly to get rid of all the associated 
 files.
 There is an uninstaller now with the latest version and their support say 
 that it totally removes all the components of the App.
 
 So to remove the app one should just move it to the trash, fill in the 
 survey form containing the question about what's the reason of your desire to 
 uninstall MacKeeper, and finally press 'uninstall' button - that will totally 
 remove all the components of the app.”
 
 I've used this uninstaller and still found some associated MacKeeper 
 ‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
 as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.
 
 I would suggest you get rid of MacKeeper completely, do a “Repair 
 Permissions” after.
 I would also, boot from the Snow Leopard Installation disk  use Disk Utility 
 (on the Installer Disc) to ‘Repair Disk’.
 
 /End Extract Quote from my email to WAMUG
 
 If you want to completely remove MacKeeper application from your Mac you need 
 to delete these files.
 
 In Application folder:
 - /Applications/MacKeeper.app
 
 In system Library:
 - /Library/Application/Support/MacKeeper
 - /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 - /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 
 In User Library:
 - /Users//Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
 - /Users//Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
 - /Users//Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
 - /Users//Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
 - /Users//Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 
 In Keychain Access utility: - all zeobit passwords
 
 Check In Activity Monitor for MacKeeper Helper … Quit it.
 As soon as you Quit it, go  Uninstall.
 
 Note: After

Re: Interesting Video Highlight of Tim Cook's D10 Interview/ MacKeeper Application

2012-06-02 Thread Andrew Schox

Hi Ronni,

Is there an app that you do recommend to perform general system maintenance and 
tidy ups?

Cheers,

Andrew

On 03/06/2012, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Oh Stuart,
 
 MacKeeper is a dangerous application, it can do a lot of damage to your 
 operating system.
 
 On 03/06/2012, at 9:40 AM, Stuart Breden wrote:
 
 May work now because yesterday I scanned the iMac with macKeeper and there 
 were about 250 fixes.
 
 You obviously have either NOT read, or have chosen to ignore my posts and 
 other members posts on the dangers of installing and using MacKeeper. Do a 
 search on Google or Apple Discussions,  you will find heaps of threads 
 similar to this one, still going in May 2012: 
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2786697?start=0tstart=0
 
 Back in May 2011 in response to one of our members who was experiencing 
 system problems with his MacBook Pro possibly caused by installing and 
 running MacKeeper, I posted this:
 
 /Begin Extract Quote from my email to WAMUG:
 
  Only recently I had to charge a Client $700 after I had to fix ’The Mess’ 
 MacKeeper had done to his MacBook Pro.
 What you have mentioned below were some of the symptoms he was experiencing 
 before the MBP virtually stopped completely.
 
 This Application changes System files and messes with the Operating System, 
 without your knowing.
 
 I know it is advertised  recommended all over the Internet, but I would 
 never recommend installing this Application.
 I don’t like Applications that mess with the Operating System.
 
 I’ve seen what damage MacKeeper can and does do, and how difficult it is to 
 uninstall all the associated files it leaves all over the system even after 
 you ’think’ it is uninstalled.
 When people open their library, they will see around 50 folders; within these 
 are the files MacKeeper left over on their computer.
 
 Some of the files I’ve found still on people’s computers after they 
 ‘uninstalled’ MacKeeper were:
 
 /Library/Application Support/MacKeeper
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 ~/Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 ~/Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
 ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
 ~/Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
 
 I’ve known of instances where people have had to do a complete restore after 
 trying to delete MacKeeper.
 
 It does need to be uninstalled correctly to get rid of all the associated 
 files.
 There is an uninstaller now with the latest version and their support say 
 that it totally removes all the components of the App.
 
 So to remove the app one should just move it to the trash, fill in the 
 survey form containing the question about what's the reason of your desire to 
 uninstall MacKeeper, and finally press 'uninstall' button - that will totally 
 remove all the components of the app.”
 
 I've used this uninstaller and still found some associated MacKeeper 
 ‘components’ (associated files) in /Library and ~/Library
 as I mentioned above which needed to be manually trashed.
 
 I would suggest you get rid of MacKeeper completely, do a “Repair 
 Permissions” after.
 I would also, boot from the Snow Leopard Installation disk  use Disk Utility 
 (on the Installer Disc) to ‘Repair Disk’.
 
 /End Extract Quote from my email to WAMUG
 
 If you want to completely remove MacKeeper application from your Mac you need 
 to delete these files.
 
 In Application folder:
 - /Applications/MacKeeper.app
 
 In system Library:
 - /Library/Application/Support/MacKeeper
 - /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon
 - /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.AntiVirus
 
 In User Library:
 - /Users//Library/Preference/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper.plist
 - /Users//Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.Helper
 - /Users//Library/Caches/com.zeobit.MacKeeper
 - /Users//Library/LaunchAgents/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plugin.Backup.agent
 - /Users//Library/Preferences/com.zeobit.MacKeeper.plist
 
 In Keychain Access utility: - all zeobit passwords
 
 Check In Activity Monitor for MacKeeper Helper … Quit it.
 As soon as you Quit it, go  Uninstall.
 
 Note: After uninstalling MacKeeper: If you are using Lion OS X 10.7.4 - Boot 
 to the Recovery Partition, and run Disk Utility from there, to Repair Disk.
 After running Repair Disk, reboot to the main partition, and run Repair 
 Permissions from Disk Utility.
 
 Similar details can be found at this link:
 http://applehelpwriter.com/2011/09/21/how-to-uninstall-mackeeper-malware/
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.4 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Interesting post re MacKeeper

2011-08-17 Thread Daniel Kerr


Hi All

A few times people have asked about MacKeeper.
Was just having a read through some articles and came across this, which I
thought was a interesting post.
Worth a read for those wondering about installing or wanting to trial
MacKeeper.
http://www.themacfeed.com/2011/06/mackeeper-a-rather-slimy-tale/

I'd glad I still stand behind my ignore it like a plague first
thought,..lol.
But that's just my opinion ;o)

Kind regards
Daniel
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Re: MacKeeper

2011-08-01 Thread Darrel McGuiness



On 04/06/2011, at 12:09 PM, Skehan Adrian wrote:

 
 Thanks Daniel,
 
 I am always nervous about applications that can do all so to speak, they are 
 generally too good to be true (safe in this case).  
 
 I had no problems deleting it with CleanApp and using Ronni's post as a guide 
 I could not find any trace of it afterwards, but then again I only tried the 
 Fast Clean and kept well away from the Anti Virus thing which I think can be 
 the most destructive thing you can install particularly if you already have 
 one running.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Adrian
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 On 04/06/2011, at 11:51 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 
 Hi Adrian
 
 There are lots of good reviews on it.
 However,...and the following is my personal opinion..
 Any program/company that advertises the way it does, and has pop ups on some
 of the sites I use (even though I have pop ups turned off) doesn't get my
 vote.
 Also, the software does seem to put its hooks through the system a lot.
 Something I don't particularly care for.
 And, lastly if you do a search for MacKeeper pop ups you'll see a lot of
 reviews on people that have a) installed it and found it not good and b) had
 trouble removing it.
 
 Here for example is one thread on it:-
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2786697?start=0tstart=0
 
 There's just something about that software I can't quite put my finger on
 it,...but I personally don't like it.
 The threat of it doing more damage then good can also be a bit of a worry.
 ;o)
 
 Again, this is just my personal opinion.
 
 The second part to your question, is sort of in the answer above. In that it
 installs components all over the system. And the removal tool doesn't seem
 to get them all. So you have to do lots to get rid of it. That is part the
 problem.
 
 Hope that helps a little.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 4/6/11 9:35 AM, Skehan Adrian adrianske...@me.com wrote:
 
 
 Good morning all,
 
 Early last May there was a post on MacKeeper which seemed to come to an 
 abrupt
 close following Ronni's comment.  The application has some interesting
 elements to it such as Fast Clean which suggested that there is over 6 GB of
 junk, including foreign languages and lots of preference files for long
 disused applications, etc. Anti-Theft, Duplicate Finder and Undelete look
 interesting.  
 
 Does anyone have anything good to say about it?
 
 The other burning questions in my mind are: Has anyone tracked down just 
 what
 it is about it that may causes the sort of problems that Ronni came up
 against?  and has the MacKeeper people had anything to say on the matter?
 
 Regards,
 
 Adrian
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Fwd: MacKeeper

2011-06-03 Thread Skehan Adrian


Good morning all,

Early last May there was a post on MacKeeper which seemed to come to an abrupt 
close following Ronni's comment.  The application has some interesting elements 
to it such as Fast Clean which suggested that there is over 6 GB of junk, 
including foreign languages and lots of preference files for long disused 
applications, etc. Anti-Theft, Duplicate Finder and Undelete look interesting.  

Does anyone have anything good to say about it?  

The other burning questions in my mind are: Has anyone tracked down just what 
it is about it that may causes the sort of problems that Ronni came up against? 
 and has the MacKeeper people had anything to say on the matter?

Regards,

Adrian
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Re: MacKeeper

2011-06-03 Thread Daniel Kerr


Hi Adrian

There are lots of good reviews on it.
However,...and the following is my personal opinion..
Any program/company that advertises the way it does, and has pop ups on some
of the sites I use (even though I have pop ups turned off) doesn't get my
vote.
Also, the software does seem to put its hooks through the system a lot.
Something I don't particularly care for.
And, lastly if you do a search for MacKeeper pop ups you'll see a lot of
reviews on people that have a) installed it and found it not good and b) had
trouble removing it.

Here for example is one thread on it:-
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2786697?start=0tstart=0

There's just something about that software I can't quite put my finger on
it,...but I personally don't like it.
The threat of it doing more damage then good can also be a bit of a worry.
;o)

Again, this is just my personal opinion.

The second part to your question, is sort of in the answer above. In that it
installs components all over the system. And the removal tool doesn't seem
to get them all. So you have to do lots to get rid of it. That is part the
problem.

Hope that helps a little.

Kind regards
Daniel


On 4/6/11 9:35 AM, Skehan Adrian adrianske...@me.com wrote:

 
 Good morning all,
 
 Early last May there was a post on MacKeeper which seemed to come to an abrupt
 close following Ronni's comment.  The application has some interesting
 elements to it such as Fast Clean which suggested that there is over 6 GB of
 junk, including foreign languages and lots of preference files for long
 disused applications, etc. Anti-Theft, Duplicate Finder and Undelete look
 interesting.  
 
 Does anyone have anything good to say about it?
 
 The other burning questions in my mind are: Has anyone tracked down just what
 it is about it that may causes the sort of problems that Ronni came up
 against?  and has the MacKeeper people had anything to say on the matter?
 
 Regards,
 
 Adrian
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: MacKeeper

2011-06-03 Thread Skehan Adrian


Thanks Daniel,

I am always nervous about applications that can do all so to speak, they are 
generally too good to be true (safe in this case).  

I had no problems deleting it with CleanApp and using Ronni's post as a guide I 
could not find any trace of it afterwards, but then again I only tried the Fast 
Clean and kept well away from the Anti Virus thing which I think can be the 
most destructive thing you can install particularly if you already have one 
running.


Regards,

Adrian
adrianske...@me.com

On 04/06/2011, at 11:51 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

 
 Hi Adrian
 
 There are lots of good reviews on it.
 However,...and the following is my personal opinion..
 Any program/company that advertises the way it does, and has pop ups on some
 of the sites I use (even though I have pop ups turned off) doesn't get my
 vote.
 Also, the software does seem to put its hooks through the system a lot.
 Something I don't particularly care for.
 And, lastly if you do a search for MacKeeper pop ups you'll see a lot of
 reviews on people that have a) installed it and found it not good and b) had
 trouble removing it.
 
 Here for example is one thread on it:-
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2786697?start=0tstart=0
 
 There's just something about that software I can't quite put my finger on
 it,...but I personally don't like it.
 The threat of it doing more damage then good can also be a bit of a worry.
 ;o)
 
 Again, this is just my personal opinion.
 
 The second part to your question, is sort of in the answer above. In that it
 installs components all over the system. And the removal tool doesn't seem
 to get them all. So you have to do lots to get rid of it. That is part the
 problem.
 
 Hope that helps a little.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 
 On 4/6/11 9:35 AM, Skehan Adrian adrianske...@me.com wrote:
 
 
 Good morning all,
 
 Early last May there was a post on MacKeeper which seemed to come to an 
 abrupt
 close following Ronni's comment.  The application has some interesting
 elements to it such as Fast Clean which suggested that there is over 6 GB of
 junk, including foreign languages and lots of preference files for long
 disused applications, etc. Anti-Theft, Duplicate Finder and Undelete look
 interesting.  
 
 Does anyone have anything good to say about it?
 
 The other burning questions in my mind are: Has anyone tracked down just what
 it is about it that may causes the sort of problems that Ronni came up
 against?  and has the MacKeeper people had anything to say on the matter?
 
 Regards,
 
 Adrian
 adrianske...@me.com
 
 
 
 
 
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