[Wikimediaindia-l] unsubscribing - sabbatical
Hi folks. Just wanted to let you know I'm unsubscribing in advance of the start of my sabbatical - more info at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-August/071542.html . If you need to talk about Wikimedia technical community stuff before January, please consult Quim Gil, qgil at wikimedia dot org. Thanks! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation P.S. More about me and Hacker School: http://www.harihareswara.net/sumana/2013/08/28/1 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A tool to visualise the edits in an article
On 08/25/2013 06:45 AM, jeph wrote: Hi , I'm an IEG grantee from India. My proposalhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Replay_Edits was to build a tool to visualise the edits in an article. It aims to make it easier for an editor to go through the edits/revisions in an article. Rather than showing the changes in wikitext the tool shows the page as a reader would see it. The content that was removed/ deleted in a revision disappears the new content/ modifications appears. - Please checkout the live demohttps://googledrive.com/host/0B1hJO1N6piYFTTVZdW1mU2c0S28/visualise.html . - An updated mockuphttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1hJO1N6piYFMWUzVkpsR2dmUFU/edit?usp=sharing of the tool It is a work in progress and I'm working on the following features. - Pause/Forward/Rewind buttons - Draggable timeline , you can select from where to start playing where to end. - Skipping minor edits etc - Playback of a specific users edits alone. (I'm not sure how I'll do this) Would be awesome if you could add features you would like to see herehttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Replay_Edits#Features_for_the_tool%23Features_for_the_tool. Moreover now that wikipedia has gone live with editing on mobiles I'm hoping the tool would be really useful there too as mobiles are much more interactive than desktops. I'm trying to talk to as many people as possible about the tool so that people will use it once I'm done building it also to be sure that what I'm building is useful :-) Please share the demo link around. Thanks Jeph Hi, Jeph! Thank you for sharing this demo. I also encourage any coders on this list to help out Jeph with the code, which is at https://github.com/cosmiclattes/wikireplay . Jeph, I can see a few directions this could go. You could perhaps try to get it integrated into MediaWiki itself, like the page information action (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tulsi_Gabbardaction=info ). Or you could make it a standalone tool on tools.wmflabs.org, like http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/articleinfo/ I think, and perhaps get it linked to in the External tools section of the page info action or the page edit history in our Wikipedias. Or you could try to join forces with another team or suite of tools like the RENDER toolset (example: https://toolserver.org/~RENDER/toolkit/ChangeDetector/ ) -- still external to MediaWiki, but benefiting from a team approach. What do you think you will try to do? Thanks! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Featured picture of Chandiroor Divakaran
Malayalam speakers, here's some happy news! https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chandiroor_Divakaran_New_DSW.JPG Augustus Binu (User:Mydreamsparrow) took a photograph of poet and folk-song writer Kalathil Makki Divakaran (commonly known as Chandiroor Divakaran), a Malayalam writer from Kerala. I found out about it because it's a new featured image on English Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-08-21/Featured_content I don't read Malayalam and thus couldn't figure out whether there's a ml.wikipedia.org page about Chandiroor Divakaran -- could someone check, and add an interwiki link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandiroor_Divakaran ? Anyway - thanks to all involved in this, including User:Mydreamsparrow. :) -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Etherpad Lite labs instance going down in two weeks - backup time
Thanks to Mark Holmquist for maintaining http://etherpad.wmflabs.org for the past long while. It is going down in 2 weeks, so please retrieve your text. I recommend that you: * go into your browser history * search it for etherpad.wmflabs.org * go to each of those pads and copy-and-paste the content someplace, preferably on a public wiki, even if it's just in your userspace * replace the content of the Etherpad with a link to the wiki page you've moved the text to And just as a reminder: Etherpad is not a production-level service, and therefore any data within an etherpad should be considered both public and able to disappear at any time. This is one reason I recommend that people use Etherpads for short-term defined collaboration sessions, and frequently do backups, and always archive documents to a wiki after a session ends. -Sumana Original Message Subject: [Wikitech-l] Etherpad Lite labs instance going down in two weeks - backup time Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:02:13 -0700 From: Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org Reply-To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org To: wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org, engineer...@lists.wikimedia.org, lab...@lists.wikimedia.org The day we have all equally hoped for and dreaded is come to pass: Etherpad Lite has now replaced Etherpad Classic in production, and the labs instance is on its way out. This is my as-wide-as-possible email warning to say that everything on the labs instance, as really should have been expected, is going to be gone soon. Not immediately - we intend to give you two weeks to get your important data off the instance and onto the new one at https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/ - but you should _absolutely_ be moving things as soon as possible. We will also keep a data dump around, in case anything else needs to get pulled out of the pads, but I would suggest not relying on that if you don't have to. And in the future: If a URL has wmflabs.org in it...don't put anything, ANYTHING, important there. The purpose of labs is to let us experiment with new technology without having to worry about reliability. Thanks so much for your help and understanding in the course of this migration. tl;dr: http://etherpad.wmflabs.org is going down in 2 weeks, get yer stuff off it. -- Mark Holmquist Software Engineer, Multimedia Wikimedia Foundation mtrac...@member.fsf.org https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:MHolmquist ___ Wikitech-l mailing list wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic print material digitization workshop query
On 08/19/2013 02:52 AM, L. Shyamal wrote: Re-posting a now outdated query from meta http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Events/Bangalore/Digitization_workshop_18August2013 now that the workshop has already been conducted I think those that have attended the workshop could comment if this cover Indic language OCR-ing - if it did it would be worthwhile if the OCR software used can be documented on the meta pages or elsewhere such as Wikisource. Most of the more experienced editors here will be fairly familiar with the use of scanners for creating PDF documents and uploading them to places like the Internet Archive but the experience or knowledge of OCRs and their success rates is a bit wanting for Indic languages (fonts). best wishes Shyamal en:User:Shyamal I looked at the talk page on Meta - thank you, Shyamal! For those who do not know: OCR means Optical Character Recognition. When we want to get archival documents onto the web, it's nice to have photos of them, but it's even better to OCR them so that people can clearly read, copy, excerpt, translate, and remix the text. Is there a central list of the problems that OCR software (especially open source OCR software) has with text written in Indic languages? If so, I could help encourage people to fix those problems, as volunteers, via a Google Summer of Code/Outreach Program for Women internship, via a grant-funded project (such as https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG ), or via some other method. People who would like to make Wikisource more easily useful for Indic languages might want to contribute to the Wikisource vision development project that's going on right now: https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource_vision_development The ProofreadPage extension (part of the Wikisource technology stack) is being worked on right now in Aarti K. Dwivedi's Google Summer of Code internship. http://aartindi.blogspot.in/ She might be interested in knowing about these issues, so I am cc'ing her. Also - just because people on this list might be interested! - if you have an old historical map that you'd like to vectorize to get it onto OpenStreetMap, try out the new Map polygon and feature extractor tool: https://github.com/NYPL/map-vectorizer -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Olympian Irfan Kolothum Thodi - Commons featured image
Wikimedia India community: I just saw a nice portrait that was promoted to featured image on Commons on July 11th: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Irfan_Kolothum_Thodi_2013.jpg , photo taken by Muhammad Mahdi Karim and nominated by User:Keraunoscopia . I found out via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-07-17/Featured_content : Irfan Kolothum Thodi (born 1990) is an Indian athlete. He finished in 10th place and set the Indian national record for the 20 kilometer walk at the 2012 Summer Olympics with a time of 1:20:21. As you can see at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3154343#sitelinks-wikipedia there are currently articles about Irfan Kolothum Thodi on English, Malayalam, Polish, and French Wikipedias. (The athlete is from Kerala.) Feel free to add or improve one in your language as well! Thanks. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] IdeaLab for grants - take a look
Forwarding from wikimedia-l: On 07/11/2013 07:36 PM, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:27:30 -0700 From: Siko Bouterse sboute...@wikimedia.org To: wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Open call for new ideas in the Grants:IdeaLab Message-ID: calncu3q79s3gw85mvz6omiybaxssedzj0tvbqqjm387++-k...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, We've updated the Grants:IdeaLab to make it easier to find and share ideas for projects to improve Wikimedia, and connect with potential collaborators. Please come have a look and share your ideas! http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab Some of the ideas being collaboratively developed in the Lab may be turned into Individual Engagement Grant proposals (IEG Round 2 open call starts Aug 1). Looking forward to your thoughts, Siko -- Siko Bouterse Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. sboute...@wikimedia.org *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. * *Donate https://donate.wikimedia.org or click the edit button today, and help us make it a reality!* Please feel free to share your ideas in the IdeaLab! Also: there's at least one idea currently in the IdeaLab that's about an Indian language Wikimedia project, so you could comment there. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] welcome, new technical contributors
Harsh wrote: Hopefully you all have subscribed mediawiki-india list. Since we all are technical contributors. We can fix the bugs of local wikis like gu wiki, hi wiki etc. We can localize and port some gadgets on local wikis as well. Also can develop some new feature that particular community wants. We can also start some regular activity to boost technical community across India. How we can grow technical community? Ideas are welcomed. Since we all are from different states. It is very useful to grow technical activities across India as well as to find new contributors. Here are some tutorials that coders could teach: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/MediaWiki_Workshop Here are some instructions regarding documenting, localising and porting templates and gadgets: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/4/49/Extension_cite.pdf https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/2/2d/Documenting_noteworthy_local_templates.pdf According to Arjuna Rao Chavala, https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Essentials_for_Nurturing_Small_Wikis it's really helpful to smaller Wikipedias to help them adopt tools like HotCat and Twinkle and bots. So that's something Indian technical contributors could work on. I have a suggestion: And whatever languages you feel comfortable with, try making some small improvements to a few pages for wikis in those languages -- Tamil Wiktionary, Kannada Wikisource, Hindi Wikiquote, Bengali Wikipedia, and so on. And then look at the wiki's village pump, watering hole, scriptorium, or other community discussion forum. It's always nice to have a bit of direct experience and observation. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimania proposals about India
On 05/10/2013 08:00 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: From: arun vm arunweb...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimania proposals about India Why cant you include submission for technical persons also i am a php programer i am not found any intresting catagory to me Arun, Hi there. Because this is the Wikimedia India community mailing list, I wanted to point out several proposals specifically interesting to the Wikimedia India community. It would be a waste of most subscribers' time for me to list out this year's many Wikimania submissions that are specifically about technology: https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submission_review#Technology_and_Infrastructure You might also like to attend the pre-Wikimania DevCamp: https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/DevCamp Best wishes, Sumana -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] welcome, new technical contributors
We had several applicants to Google Summer of Code this year who come from India, so I asked them to also please join this list to keep up with the Wikimedia community in India. Hello to users Grv99, Prageck, Rtdwivedi, Rahul21, Nilesh.c, Puneet kaur, and anyone else who has joined. :-) The Indian Wikimedia community is eager to share knowledge, host technical events, and generally improve the sites and their content. These new contributors are interested in helping specifically with the tech side, so if you'd like to ask them for help with something, now is a good time! (Except that many of them have exams.) :) Thanks for joining the Wikimedia community! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] Call for participation ends soon relevant input request
Reminder - 30th April is the last day to get a Wikimania 2013 proposal in. And please do mark your interest in specific proposals by others -- it helps the committee make the schedule. Thanks, Sumana Original Message Subject: [Wikimania-l] Call for participation ends soon relevant input request Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 00:57:16 +0200 From: Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan y...@wikimedia.hk Reply-To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear Wikimaniacs and non-Wikimaniacs As most of you may aware that the CFP for this year will end soon, just almost exactly one week later So if you're planing to have your submission, and not yet finish yours please take your time to get it done. We would also like you to express if you are interested in attend any of the submission. [1] Such input will be really helpful for our Program committee members to decide accepting which proposals and also where should we facilitate these sessions, if it is accepted. Thx v much! [1] http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Submissions -- Jeromy-Yu Jerry Chan, ARAD User:Yuyu | zh.wikipedia Coordinator-in-Chief, Wikimania 2013 also Jeromyu on twitter, plurk and most of places http://plasticnews.wf| http://about.me/jeromyu Tel (Mobile): +852 9279 1601 *Lend us a simple edit, you're a Wikipedian!* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Los Angeles County Museum of Art offers 20, 000 public domain images
The South and Southeast Asian Art search shows 2101 results -- images that might be used to improve coverage of South Asian and Southeast Asian topics: http://collections.lacma.org/search/site/?f[0]=bm_field_has_image%3Atruef[1]=bm_field_has_unrestricted_image%3Atruef[2]=im_field_curatorial_area%3A52 Hope this is helpful! Original Message Subject: Los Angeles County Museum of Art offers 20,000 public domain images Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:25:29 -0400 From: Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org Organization: Wikimedia Foundation To: Wikimedia GLAM collaboration [Public] g...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Commons Discussion List common...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lacma.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/what-do-cats-have-to-do-with-it-welcome-to-our-new-collections-website/ http://lacma.tumblr.com/post/45351653675/two-years-ago-we-launched-an-experiment-an The search: http://collections.lacma.org/search/site/?f[0]=bm_field_has_image%3Atruef[1]=bm_field_has_unrestricted_image%3Atrue Look at this beautiful watercolor on mica from West Bengal circa 1800. http://collections.lacma.org/node/225266 This is cool. -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] IRC chat on Wednesday 20 March for QA about Lua scripting on wikis
Hi, Wikimedia India community! We enabled Lua on all Wikimedia sites last week. Lua https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua is a scripting language that enables wiki editors to write faster and more powerful MediaWiki templates, and is reasonably easy to learn. We're pretty excited about this, partly because of the promise of Lua + Wikidata https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/14/what-lua-scripting-means-wikimedia-open-source/. You might have heard about this on the Wikimedia tech blog https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/11/lua-templates-faster-more-flexible-pages/ or the tech ambassadors list http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2013-March/000171.html. If you have questions about how to convert existing templates to Lua (or how to create new ones), we'll be holding two support sessions on IRC this week. You're probably more interested in the one on Wednesday 20 March http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=02min=00sec=0day=20month=03year=2013 (for Oceania, Asia America). There's also one on Friday http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=18min=00sec=0day=22month=03year=2013 (for Europe, Africa America). See m:IRC office hours https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours for details. If you can't make it, you can also get help at mw:Talk:Lua scripting https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Lua_scripting. If you'd like to learn about this kind of event earlier in advance, consider becoming a Tech ambassador https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/Ambassadors by subscribing to the mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors. Thanks, Sumana -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation P.S. Thanks to Guillaume Paumier for writing the wikimediaannounce-l post I modified to write this! http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaannounce-l/2013-March/000614.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia and indiawikipedia.com wikipedia.in
Daniel Zahn of Wikimedia Foundation's Operations group asked me to please forward this to the Indian Wikimedia community. I hope this improvement helps people find Indian Wikipedias and helps them learn about the Wikimedia India chapter. Comments, concerns, and suggestions are welcome, as Daniel details below. Cheers, Sumana Harihareswara Original Message Subject: indiawikipedia.com Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:23:44 -0800 From: Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org To: Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org Hello Wikimedia India, fyi, ops/legal at WMF acquired the domain: http://indiawikipedia.com and redirects it (for now) to: http://wikimedia.in/wikipedia.html It was a really old ticket on our side to get that domain name and it went through legal, then we had it for a while but never redirected it anywhere, and now we just decided to use the target above because that seemed to make the most sense. (after all it is indiawikiPedia.com and not indiawikiMedia.com) A long term goal i suggested would be to get wikipedia.in as well and redirect it there. A little while ago, like end of February, that was still active but full of advertising, and now it's disappeared. If you have any comments/questions/ideas you can open a Bugzilla ticket or even look at the Apache config directly and suggest changes. Please mention RT-1395 for reference. The relevant changes are: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52141/1/redirects.conf https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/52152/ Best regards, Daniel -- Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org Operations Engineer ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Why and how to evaluate our effectiveness
Hi there, wikimediaindia-l! I've found the short guide to Program evaluation basics helpful to me. You can start with why evaluate in the first place? and continue with Efficiency, effectiveness and impact, The 'Program Impact Model', and a glossary and a short list of recommended reading. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program_evaluation_basics:_why_evaluate_in_the_first_place%3F I especially appreciated the diagram at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program_evaluation_basics:_the_program_impact_model . I like having words for the different parts of evaluation, especially to clarify the difference between inputs and activities, between outputs and outcomes, and between outcomes and impact. For instance, my group has, in the past, found that our outputs from specific events or other activities were reasonably adequate, but didn't lead to sufficient outcomes, or to impact. I bring this up on wikimediaindia-l partly because I see so many post-event reports here that often mention specific outputs (like my own https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackathon_2012/Retrospective ), and want to encourage organizers to also specifically emphasize outcomes and impact. best, Sumana -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] above-and-beyond hospitality to newbies at an Indian open source event
(cross-posting to wikimediaindia-l and the OpenHatch events list) I recently read a thought-provoking piece, The Bardoli Incident, by a Gujarati open source software contributor.[0] It's a moving story of hospitality to newbies and I wanted to share it with you. I especially appreciate that Pradeepto Bhattacharya personally took it upon himself to stop newbie attrition at the event. My Indian parents taught me a heritage of hospitality, as I remembered in Be Bold: An Origin Story.[1] So this kind of heroism, the heroism of the host, speaks deeply to me. It's a tough balance, respecting each participant's right to drop out while ensuring they know that we want them to stay. I think Bhattacharya got it right by asking honest questions and adapting the newbies' experience. Maybe other event organizers reading this have had similar experiences? -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation [0] http://pradeepto.livejournal.com/18619.html [1] http://adainitiative.org/2012/06/sumana-harihareswaras-be-bold-an-origin-story-keynote-at-open-source-bridge/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Deadlines for some upcoming opportunities (GSoC, Wikimania other conferences)
Abhijith, I'm sorry. I was under the impression that someone else had already posted about new grant opportunities to this list back when the IEG opened for applications; it did get announced in the monthly WMF blog post, wikimedia-l, the Wikipedia Signpost, and similar places. So I must have filed something in the wrong place in my memory. :( I apologize. So let me spread the word now about some other upcoming deadlines: The scholarship deadline for Wikimania 2013 (Hong Kong, 7-11 August) is in one week: 22 February 2013 23:59 UTC https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships. The talk proposal deadline is 30 April https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions. I also want to draw your attention to Open Source Bridge, Allied Media Conference, and the Grace Hopper Celebration of Women in Computing. These are conferences that are interested in empowering everyone, using technology, and have a focus on diversity and social justice. If you lead a session at one of these conferences, you are eligible to apply for Wikimedia Foundation's Participation Support subsidies for travel https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation:Support. Last year, the open source and Wikipedia sessions at Grace Hopper and Open Source Bridge were very well-attended. Allied Media Conference: 20-23 June, Detroit, Michigan, USA. Call for proposals deadline: 8 March. http://alliedmedia.org/news/2013/02/01/its-time-propose-session-amc2013-ready-steady-go Open Source Bridge: 18-21 June, Portland, Oregon, USA. Call for proposals deadline: 9 March. http://opensourcebridge.org/blog/2013/01/2013-call-for-proposals-now-open/ Grace Hopper: 2-5 October, Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA. Call for proposals deadline: 15 March. http://gracehopper.org/2013/participate/call-for-participation/ Go ahead and submit stuff! And remember, it's okay to submit multiple proposals per conference. MediaWiki is going to apply to participate in Google Summer of Code again this year as a mentoring organization. Students aiming to participate should look at this timeline: https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 and remember that their applications will be due on 3 May. In GSoC, college and graduate students work on open source projects remotely, mentored by skilled developers. Students who successfully complete the program receive USD5000 in total. And finally, if you're interested in attending AdaCamp in San Francisco 8-9 June 2013 (to work on supporting women in open technology and open culture), please fill out http://adainitiative.org/2013/01/interested-in-attending-an-adacamp-in-san-francisco/ and indicate whether you would need travel assistance. ...this is not a full application to attend AdaCamp San Francisco, just a way to gauge interest. We will contact you with application details when applications open. Please feel free to forward! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 02:29:18 -0800 (PST) From: Abhijith Jayanthi abhijithsince1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Individual Engagement Grant: deadline for current round, 15 Feb Hi, I sense we will have to make announcements a tad bit earlier - so that we see sensible, fully mature proposals. regards Abhijith - Original Message - From: Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013 3:51 AM Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Individual Engagement Grant: deadline for current round, 15 Feb https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-applying Individual Engagement Grants support Wikimedians to complete projects that benefit the Wikimedia movement, lead to online impact, or otherwise serve our mission, community, and strategic priorities. We fund individuals or small teams to build, organize, pilot, create, improve, research or facilitate something that enhances the work of Wikimedia's volunteers and helps us achieve our vision of a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. The deadline for the current round is Feb 15 24:00 UTC, which is about 26 hours from when I send this. Proposals for the next round will open in August. Please also consider helping discuss current proposals between now and 22 February: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-reviewing Open discussion and evaluation of proposals is intended to encourage diversity and innovation in the grants made, by bringing multiple perspectives to the selection process. Funding limits the amount of Individual Engagement Grants we are able to make in each round, and proposals are carefully evaluated and selected according to pre-determined criteria https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-criteria. Hope this is of interest! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia
[Wikimediaindia-l] Individual Engagement Grant: deadline for current round, 15 Feb
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-applying Individual Engagement Grants support Wikimedians to complete projects that benefit the Wikimedia movement, lead to online impact, or otherwise serve our mission, community, and strategic priorities. We fund individuals or small teams to build, organize, pilot, create, improve, research or facilitate something that enhances the work of Wikimedia's volunteers and helps us achieve our vision of a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. The deadline for the current round is Feb 15 24:00 UTC, which is about 26 hours from when I send this. Proposals for the next round will open in August. Please also consider helping discuss current proposals between now and 22 February: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-reviewing Open discussion and evaluation of proposals is intended to encourage diversity and innovation in the grants made, by bringing multiple perspectives to the selection process. Funding limits the amount of Individual Engagement Grants we are able to make in each round, and proposals are carefully evaluated and selected according to pre-determined criteria https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-criteria. Hope this is of interest! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Cinema Task Force profiled in Signpost
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-09-17/WikiProject_report This week, we shine the spotlight on the Indian Cinema Task Force, a subproject that seeks to improve the quality and quantity of articles about Indian cinema. As a child of WikiProject Film and WikiProject India, the Indian Cinema Task Force shares a variety of templates, resources, and members with its parent projects. The task force works on a to-do list, maintains the Bollywood Portal, and ensures articles follow the film style guidelines. With Indian cinema celebrating its 100th year of existence in 2013, we asked Karthik Nadar (Karthikndr), Secret of success, Ankit Bhatt, Dwaipayan, and AnimeshKulkarni what is in store for the Indian Cinema Task Force. :) I also saw in that page's News In Brief section: WikiProject India is looking for a new coordinator for the project's Collaborations of the Month so feel free to spread the word! best, Sumana -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS.in - call for proposals open till 8 July
https://lwn.net/Articles/502488/ FOSS.in will take place from November 29th to December 1st at the NIMHANS Convention Center in Bangalore. I would love for the Indian Wikimedia technical community to propose talks and tutorials and miniconferences! The CfP mentions specifically wanting talks about Education solutions for the 21st century as well as web development, mobile, privacy, and other topics. http://foss.in/cfp -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Event coordinators: how to create many accounts from 1 IP address
When you're running an event, sometimes you want to help lots of people create accounts on Wikimedia sites. To prevent spamming/vandalism, ordinarily there's a cap on the number of accounts that can be created from one IP address in a single day. But there's a way to ask for a temporary removal of that restriction. The Foundation's Maggie Dennis has written a quick HOWTO: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/How_to_request_lift_of_an_IP_cap and so please feel free to link to it in your outreach HOWTOs, event planning checklists, and so on. Thanks, Maggie! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] GSoC announcement of students for 2012
Ashwin, per https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_Past_Projects , some of our past GSoC students have continued to help the Wikimedia technical community, and some have been less permanent. Students who know that their work is desired by the community and who experience the joy of personal engagement are more likely to stick around. So please help me by inviting these students to local meetups and keeping an eye on their projects. This applies to this year's students as well as previous students Ankit Garg, Akshay Agarwal, Devayon Das (who spoke at the conference in Mumbai last year), etc. Yuvi is a great success story here. :) The blog post https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/04/23/wmf-selects-9-students-for-gsoc/ gives you some pages where the students welcome comment. Some more links: * http://greensmw.wordpress.com - Nischay Nachata (working on SMW) * http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-May/060477.html - Akshay Chugh (making a conference/convention extension for MediaWiki) * http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-May/060495.html - Robin Pepermans (working on the Incubator) * http://www.harryburt.co.uk/blog/ - Harry Burt (working on translating SVG files) Thanks for your support! -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation On 04/23/2012 10:52 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote: This is great news. It has been my experience that GSOC helps add to the skill-sets and experience of Wikipedians in India who are then able to help the community deal with technical issues and even construct special tools if required. YuviPanda and his Assessment Bar come to mind. Congratulations, the five of you. Do us proud. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: Congrats to all folks who got through, specially to Ankur Anand, Akshay Chugh, Ashish Dubey, Suhas HS, Nischay Nahata who are the 5 Indians to get through under WMF. -- Forwarded message -- From: Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 00:58 Subject: [Wikitech-l] GSoC announcement of students for 2012 To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/04/23/wmf-selects-9-students-for-gsoc/ Ankur Anand, integrating Flickr upload and geolocation into UploadWizard. Mentor: WMF engineer Ryan Kaldari Harry Burt, TranslateSvg (Bringing the translation revolution to Wikimedia Commons). Mentor: WMF engineer Max Semenik Akshay Chugh, making a convention/conference extension for MediaWiki. Mentor: volunteer developer Jure Kajzer Ashish Dubey, realtime collaboration in the upcoming visual editor. Mentor: WMF engineer Trevor Parscal Suhas HS, improvements to the OpenStackManager extension. Mentor: WMF engineer Ryan Lane Nischay Nahata, optimizing the performance of the Semantic MediaWiki extension. Mentor: volunteer developer Markus Kr?tzsch Aaron Pramana, watchlist grouping and workflow improvements. Mentor: volunteer developer Alex Emsenhuber Robin Pepermans, working on Incubator improvements and language support, Mentor: WMF engineer Niklas Laxstr?m Platonides, a desktop application for mass-uploading files to Wikimedia Commons. Mentor: me (as project manager and mentor of record; Platonides will consult with technical experts) Congratulations. You are the most promising students among the 63 who applied, so we chose you to participate in our Google Summer of Code program. Please consult your mentor to discuss what you ought to do during the community bonding period (now till May 21). Students whom we did not accept: please don't despair. As you can see, you had a lot of very strong competition, and we only had nine slots. We encourage you to keep learning about open source, use our IRC channels and mailing lists, and even work on your projects as volunteers! Most of us got into this hobby without GSoC, and you can too. :-) -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia sites HTTPS by default (was Ads Injected into Wikipedia?)
Anirudh Bhati wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: Ok then can we not make the default version the https one like say google does. This will not be a permanent solution, I'm afraid. Encrypting your browser traffic does quite durably protect you against the kind of injection attacks we're discussing (the injection of advertisements). I personally use the HTTPS Everywhere plugin (available for Chrome and Firefox) to ensure that I always browse Wikimedia and many other sites under SSL protection (that is, via HTTPS). https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere I'm not suggesting that we set out to persuade millions of people to switch to open source browsers and install this extension, but if you're already using Firefox or Chrome, I recommend HTTPS Everywhere for your own peace of mind. The most recent discussion, among Wikimedia developers, of whether to switch to HTTPS-by-default for all connections: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-April/thread.html#59551 In it, Ryan Lane from Wikimedia operations says that there are practical reasons that we have no plans for anonymous HTTPS by default, but will eventually default to HTTPS for logged-in users: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-April/059580.html -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Question about outreach sessions
On 04/09/2012 08:00 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Odia Wikipedia Outreach Programs in Odisha This was a very interesting and comprehensive report -- thank you, Mrutyunjaya Kar! I noticed this: Once we had shown everyone this, we invited those who were interested to stay for a more detailed and hands-on editing to stay, and told everyone else they were free to leave. A few of the audience left the lab, and the remaining 9 created their user accounts. I see that a few other outreach sessions have also done this. I am curious -- when you do this, what specific phrasing do you use? I want to know how to say if you're not interested, you can leave if you want in a friendly, hospitable way, so your examples might help. Thanks! -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Unofficial Wikimedia Hackathon Report
could instantly achieve a stable career as a religious or political leader. :-) Over and over we see that there is simply no substitute for personal followup and delegating right-sized tasks. Our best investment is in that personal followup and in building infrastructure for ourselves (contact lists, databases, boilerplate emails). 3. More of these? This was pretty much a 'zero cost' event - stickers were the only 'cost'. A lot of places around the country would love to have their space used for a hackathon of sorts. Should we do more of these kind of 'Unofficial' hackathons? Yes, but only if we can prepare for them as well as you did. Thanks again. -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai hackathon on 17 March
One last-minute reminder: Srikanthlogic and Yuvipanda are leading a hackathon in Chennai tomorrow. More details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Chennai_Hackathon_March_2012 Sample tweet/dent to help publicize: Chennai hackathon tomorrow http://ur1.ca/82v84 - register now! #Wikimedia #Wikipedia #MediaWiki #wikihackchennai -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Are you on this list but not comfortable editing Wikipedia and not sure who to ask? Want to learn?? SITTING AT HOME???
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:59:15 +0530 From: Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org It is free and there's nothing to install. Do make sure you check your mic and speakers beforehand (and the screen also asks you to check your hair!) It allows everyone to see each other's video - making it a more human experience. Also, we'll be able to view each other's screens which will make it simpler to conduct this session. We can have a max of 10 people doing a hangout at any point in time. In case we have more than 10 interested participants, we will organize multiple sessions. Thanks for initiating this, Nitika! Very interesting and full of potential. I have recently run a set of Google+ Hangout sessions for a similar training exercise (Git, Gerrit, and You! - training software developers in using some new tools). My experiences were mostly positive, and it was great to be able to screen-share and see others' screens! Two things to watch out for: * There is a plugin or two that one needs to install in order to participate; in my version of Firefox it's Google Talk Plugin and Google Talk Plugin Video Accelerator (in Addons), but I think it's also called GTalk Voice/Video Plugin or something like that. I got reports that it doesn't work with Chrome/Chromium. * It's useful to tell people who haven't done Hangouts before to show up on chat or IRC 15-30 minutes early in order to get Google+ accounts, install the plugin, get invited to the Hangout (if you're running it invite-only), test their voice and video connectivity, test screensharing, iron out technical issues, etc. In my case, I also wanted to get them set up with accounts ahead of time, but for you it sounds like a great idea to do the account setup as part of the training. Hope this is helpful! And if you think these tips should go somewhere on the outreach wiki(s), please feel free to add it or point me to where I should. :-) -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Localisation and internationalisation bugs affecting Indic language communities
On 02/22/2012 07:00 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: From: Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: WMF Localisation team localisation-t...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Localisation and internationalisation bugs affecting Indic language communities Message-ID: ca+30aunziw70guq189dlp0wf2ttgijxl5vndzebp3+r3pbq...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:54, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 02/20/2012 07:00 AM, wikimediaindia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.orgwrote: Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:23:08 +0530 From: Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com If you are asking only about technical issues, many communities do log bugs from time to time. But when they remain open beyond certain period and the person who logged becomes inactive, they go into black hole and there is no one to follow up(even if its fixed, they remain open). There is nothing to be distressed here. Srikanth, this is distressing to hear! If you could point to some specific Bugzilla reports that have gone into the black hole, including ones that no longer reflect reality, I could help ask the localisation team to follow up and at least put some updated information in the issues at bugzilla.wikimedia.org . They are called black hole for the reason anyone(apart from the filer / folks who conversed) might not be able to easily spot them. In most cases the bugs lack update from the filers / language communities. But again if the filer is from one generation and has retired, who does the follow up? Ideally language support teams must do it. But all of us know Indic communities have very few people to look into these and the common pattern I have found across few communities I have interacted is that spending time on bugzilla / improving technology/language support is not going to change things big way, so I might as well be contented (Ex:- Why Narayam when js works fine) with whats there and do my editing. But at some point, communities need to focus on these, as and when the communities grow, they will also get contributors who are interested in supporting the language technically. But the larger issues are common and pretty much known to i18n team. (like say PDF rendering). I tried cleaning up Tamil related bugs recently which were documented here[1] since 2006, also created a tracking bug[2]. But then as someone else said, People are just waiting for one more tracking bug to fix those. ! //So tracking bugs don't help beyond a point ! This is also distressing to hear! I'm not quite sure what was implied there -- did the speaker mean that the localisation team won't address certain problems until there are more tracking bugs to help track issues, or something else? The quote was from one of the bugs I remember seeing on bugzilla, said by someone on a totally different bug nothing related to localization. The point I implied quoting it was process for the sake of it doesn't help much beyond a point. Adding tracking bugs does not impact the age of the bug. The bugs remain open either because they are hard to solve / lack of bandwidth / lack of input / variety of other reasons, not because no one is tracking them. Adding a tracking bug wont magically fix the bug / help in the getting it to closure. But tracking bug serves useful especially for anyone new to see what are problem areas, how can I help fix / test / not report duplicate bugs etc. Most, if not all Indic issues would be tagged with i18n keyword on bugzilla. Yes, adding the i18n keyword to an issue in Bugzilla will help bring it to the attention of the localisation team. Another point, Not all Indic wikipedia related issues are i18n issues, though there might be heavy overlap. There are site requests like changing logo,namespace, installing extensions whatever. The point to note is, when someone does these things in any Indic community(which already have tiny community), please keep the community widely posted / document these somewhere.Not just issues, but solutions/workarounds, gadgets used, things like abuse filter rules(if any) and its rationale behind etc. This will help someone else in your community(who may come years later) to follow up even if you retire / had forgotten. Fortunately Tamil Wiki community did that from the beginning(at least the major ones,if not everything) in the form of a page[1] and I was able to go through,know the past issues,update it after almost 2 years! I felt a tracking bug might be easier to track on issues than a page, so I just created one. Thanks for mentioning this problem, Srikanth. This problem is not restricted to bugzilla. This may even happen in say in translation or anything, where only a subset (ideally 1-2
[Wikimediaindia-l] Localisation and internationalisation bugs affecting Indic language communities
On 02/20/2012 07:00 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:23:08 +0530 From: Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : The Hindu : The struggles of keeping Kannada Wikipedia afloat Message-ID: CA+30aUPsvLiA2YrjNz3KTWs7zgRuTCAiCPoFu4PZidYgu=a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:43, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: I guess what I am asking is whether all the issues that the various language communities in India face have been recorded on the bugzilla and, there is a page somewhere which allows anyone interested to track them. If you are asking only about technical issues, many communities do log bugs from time to time. But when they remain open beyond certain period and the person who logged becomes inactive, they go into black hole and there is no one to follow up(even if its fixed, they remain open). Srikanth, this is distressing to hear! If you could point to some specific Bugzilla reports that have gone into the black hole, including ones that no longer reflect reality, I could help ask the localisation team to follow up and at least put some updated information in the issues at bugzilla.wikimedia.org . But the larger issues are common and pretty much known to i18n team. (like say PDF rendering). I tried cleaning up Tamil related bugs recently which were documented here[1] since 2006, also created a tracking bug[2]. But then as someone else said, People are just waiting for one more tracking bug to fix those. ! //So tracking bugs don't help beyond a point ! This is also distressing to hear! I'm not quite sure what was implied there -- did the speaker mean that the localisation team won't address certain problems until there are more tracking bugs to help track issues, or something else? Most, if not all Indic issues would be tagged with i18n keyword on bugzilla. [1] http://tawp.in/r/3hl [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32578 -- Regards Srikanth.L Yes, adding the i18n keyword to an issue in Bugzilla will help bring it to the attention of the localisation team. Thanks for mentioning this problem, Srikanth. -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Technical tutorial/training references and resources for events
Wow, the Wikimedia community in India is putting on a tremendous number of events! http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Events/2011 Congratulations! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program/Outreach_Programs is a very useful resource for people organizing Wikimedia events -- thank you, Nitika! Also, if you would specifically like a technical component to your workshop, where people learn to work on MediaWiki and related Wikimedia technology, you should see the resource page that Naveen started: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/MediaWiki_Workshop I'm helping build more tutorial material, suitable for use at a workshop or similar event. You can see the existing ones here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Tutorials * How to use the MediaWiki API * How to write a user script or gadget * How to use and work on our internationalisation/localisation tools * How to build the Wikipedia Android app * How to write a simple MediaWiki extension * How to hack MediaWiki itself (very long!) If you have questions or requests, please feel free to leave them on my talk page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Sumanah or reply, preferably on-list. Thanks. -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] , [Wikimedia-in-mum] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II
Nikita, Thanks for your reply. Here's a list of the Wikimedia community's IRC channels: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Channels In the future, when you have a technical problem with Wikimedia sites, try visiting one of the IRC channels that the developers and system administrators use to coordinate their work, such as #wikimedia-tech . A few of our system administrators are volunteers. There's an incomplete and out-of-date list here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/System_administrators You asked: How can I help? If you have system administration skills, you can help by getting a Labs account https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Projects/Wikimedia_Labs . Labs users talk via the #wikimedia-labs channel on IRC and the labs-l mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l . Tasks that new system administrators can take on are listed here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Projects/Wikimedia_Labs#Proposals and you can learn about the current architecture of Wikimedia's operations infrastructure at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/ However, as I mentioned, the system is still under construction and so please don't feel discouraged if there's not much you can do yet. People without system administration skills can help in this particular situation by learning them, or by spreading the word about Wikimedia technical opportunities in general. Thanks! -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation On 01/31/2012 07:00 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:54:51 +0530 From: nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II Message-ID: CAPYgbuP3s=+1pdm-tzuwdsq3j4_ncl7pf69f8_dhwypvkqw...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hii, Thanks for your response. We tried at Wikimedia-in Channel ( wikimedia India). Thank you for the information you mentioned. It will be very helpful to have volunteer system administrations. How can i help? Warm Regards, Nikita Belavate. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 01/30/2012 07:00 AM, wikimediaindia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.orgwrote: nikita belavate niki8...@gmail.com wrote: The major technical challenge started here while uploading the images. The system would not allow upload from many people simultaneously and only one person's images were uploaded at a time ! On informing this to Dr. Nagarjuna, he mentioned about asking help from the IRC center but unfortunately, none of the wikipedians were online at that time. We tried calling few , but for some reason they cwere not available then. My sympathies and condolences on this problem! Quick question -- which IRC channels did you go into? If I know more about that, I can help encourage better 24/7 coverage. In the long run, it'll be helpful for Wikimedia to have volunteer system administrators around the world, to increase the chances that someone is online and available and can help you. And maybe you can become a sysadmin yourself! Wikimedia Labs https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Projects/Wikimedia_Labs is an effort to help grow the Wikimedia system administration community. Check it out. It's in closed beta right now and it is still under construction, but if you ask on the Talk/Discuss page for an invite, you can get one. -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Technical tutorials for Wikimedia meetups
We just finished the San Francisco hackathon, which was quite a success: about 90 participants, more than a dozen project demonstrations, and a lot of engagement with San Francisco technologists and designers. I want to let you know that we ran a few tutorials that now have reference notes/documentation available: * Customizing your experience with JavaScript (using user scripts Gadgets) * Using our web API * Building working on a Wikipedia app for Android using Phonegap I hope you find these tutorials useful as syllabi or references when you are running your own meetups, hackathons, and other events. The links are all centralized here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Hackathon_January_2012 The storytelling staff also helped us out by recording video and audio of the tutorials so people can watch them later! They will upload those recordings soon. -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Help needed for Wiki Academy in Kolkata
On 01/12/2012 03:28 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:44:55 +0530 From: Sucheta Ghoshal sucheta.ghos...@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Help needed for Wiki Academy in Kolkata To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: caf5rhfdlsyefuqg+4-b1rsr+vwj1nj3b-1uwaubzg2tyfox...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, We are having a Wiki Academy for the first time in Kolkata at Netaji Subhash Engineering College . We would appreciate to have any kind of help to make this Wiki Academy a successful event, as of now We are looking for person who is willing to speak on the technical aspects of Wikipedia ( More specifically How a developer can contribute to the Meta-Wiki Source Code). Since it is an engineering college,and we are hosting it as a college event only so Technical part is necessary according to the students concerned. Please help us. Regards, Sucheta Ghoshal Sucheta, I will email the Wikimedia developers' list to let them know that you would like some MediaWiki developers to attend. Here are some flyers or notes that you can use if they are suitable for you. Ten things technically inclined volunteers can do to help Wikimedia projects: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah/TechVolunteersCanDo The please contribute to MediaWiki flyer -- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki_flyer_2016_color.pdf Also, I am the coordinator for MediaWiki's participation in the Google Summer of Code, a selective paid summer internship for college students who want to work remotely on open source software projects. The homepage for that effort is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code and the best guide is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ . I hope these are useful to you. Please feel free to translate, print, modify, link, and so on. Thank you! Good luck and best wishes! Hope you can realize great outcomes from this event. :-) -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A report on SSN College Academy
On 01/16/2012 07:57 PM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:47:04 +0530 From: Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] A report on SSN College Academy To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: camipj9kztp2k0s6odxowsbmereqtz5k+0oq0zz9+3i4xh+x...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, A Wiki workshop/academy was conducted at SSN College of Engineering, Chennai on 11 January. It was organised by SSN opensource enthusiasts under the aegis of the SSN Tamil Club. Me, Srikanth Lakshmanan and Arunmozhi from the Tamizha FOSS group. [1] 60 students attended the academy. The academy began at 9 in the morning with a presentation of open web and open source from SSN opensource enthusiasts. I followed it up with a intro section on wikipedia and a hands on editing session for about an hour. I covered the basics of wikipedia, notability standards, five pillars, copyright issues. I also covered basics of Wiktionary and Commons. Next Srikanth took a session on technology behind wikipedia and how the students could contribute technically to Wiki projects. We broke for lunch at 12 and reconvened an hour later. The afternoon session began with a audio recording exercise, where songs of the Tamil poet Subramania Bharathi were sung and uploaded to commons.[2] This served as a hands on exercise to identify the common copyright problems and which material can be added to Wiki projects without copyright issues. Public domain, nationalisation, copyright term expiry, threshold of originality, open source file formats etc were discussed. Next Arunmozhi ( a student of a College of Engineering Guindy and a developer of Tamil open source software) took a session on the initiatives of the Tamizha group. After that we went on a photo walk of the SSN campus. We split into two groups and walked around the SSN campus taking pictures. The images were uploaded to Commons. [3]. This served as an oppurtunity to explain copyright issues like freedom of panorama and derivative works. The academy ended with a vote of thanks from the Tamil Club convener. Over all it was a highly successful exercise (IMO) and a lot of productive work was done. The attendees were highly motivated and asked a lot of pertinent questions which lead to some interesting discussions. They also gave a few interesting suggestions about improving the usability of Wiki pages from newbie perspective (Srikanth has already started work on implementing one of the suggestions). I would like to thank the organising team (Dwaraka, Harvesh, Jason and others) for doing an excellent job in organising the event , SSN Tamil Mandram for its patronage and Wikimedia India Chapter for its help with swag and printed material (though the quantity was nowhere sufficient :-). Please ramp up the operation guys). ==Links== [1]http://thamizha.com/ [2]http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tamil_audio_songs [3]http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SSN_College_of_Engineering Thank you very much for your work! I would be interested specifically in knowing what opportunities especially appealed to the students and what kinds of snags and problems they ran into when considering, or trying to start, contributing to MediaWiki and other Wikimedia technologies. -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pune hackathon scheduled 10-12 February 2012
On 12/21/2011 02:27 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: On 12/14/2011 12:24 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: You are invited to the Pune Wikimedia hackathon. Date: 10-12 February 2012 Venue: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies Research (SICSR) at Symbiosis International University, Pune Extremely rough event page, soon to get more details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pune_Hackathon_Feb_2012 A Wikimedia hackathon is a chance to learn how to develop using MediaWiki, Phonegap, and our other technologies, and to work alongside experts. Software engineers, designers, and translators are welcome. We're tentatively planning to focus on internationalisation and localisation, mobile and offline Wikipedia access, and the gadgets framework. I aim to get more details in the next two weeks. If you're interested, please leave your name and your email address, or a link to your user page, on that event page. (A real registration system is coming soon.) Thanks! And please feel free to publicize this elsewhere. I've heard that, when marketing, you have to get the message to the recipient three times in three different ways before you have a good chance they've noticed it. So if you need something to help get the word out -- a sample tweet/dent, a leaflet, etc. -- let me know. Thanks! The registration page (to request an invitation to attend) is now open. Shortlink: http://is.gd/rjpNOA Full link: https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_USformkey=dEpiYTU3eTlaTkUxRUx1RlcwSFN2WFE6MQ#gid=0 A reminder: this event is now one month away. Please sign up if you'd like to come. Thanks! -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pune hackathon scheduled 10-12 February 2012
On 12/28/2011 05:30 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:02:13 +0530 From: Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pune hackathon scheduled 10-12 February 2012 To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: CA+30aUPJjZG6Uzak-5wgZyVoV=w6vgfkepi5wg5wb3jph+v...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 01:12, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: If you look at it that way, Coimbatore deserves one too. Best, we contact the foundation and suggest this. Coimbatore just had one. Yuvipanda was there for 1 day mediawiki workshop. Read the below, also applies to you and anyone who feels the same. On 12/28/11, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: No such events in Bangaluuruu :( Well, I have to agree,it was pointed out and something may happen soon. But then there was a track at FOSS.IN 2010 (a year back). But wait, did you wait Wikimania at come to your hometown for you to start Wikipedia editing? No no? So go and get started[1], stay at IRC #mediawiki, *work on something* be it small or big, know how mediawiki (or other technology infra beyond it) works, ask for help and people are more than willing to help and keep doing it. If you feel you could help on organizing one, get enough seeds (Mediawiki seasoned folks) and be bold and do it, even if its on a smaller scale. /me holds the temptation to announce something related. Sumana/Santhosh/Yuvi, You may want to add more? [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker -- Regards Srikanth.L Thank you, Srikanth L. I very much appreciate your note here. Who can speak for the chapter in terms of what plans Wikimedia India has for organizing technical events? I do not want to step on any toes! :-) In the fiscal year 2011-2012, the Wikimedia Foundation engineering department has budgeted for 6 hackathons -- some we directly organize, some we don't (but we still send several engineers). I believe these are those events: * Developer days alongside Wikimania * New Orleans hackathon * Mumbai hackathon * San Francisco hackathon * Pune hackathon * Wikimedia Germany developers' meeting So I do not think Wikimedia Foundation will organize any additional technical events before the end of June 2012. As you can see at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings there are other events where people can learn together and work together on Wikimedia technical topics. I hope and expect that, as time goes on, there will be many local and regional MediaWiki user groups and trainings and workshops and hackathons, organized by local developers. I'd like more face-to-face opportunities for interested developers in many areas, and I can provide advice, training materials, pins and stickers, and publicity. I've also reached out to the Wiki Academy organizers in India to ask them to provide participants with information about MediaWiki. Any volunteer can put on a hackathon. Lewis Cawte, a teenager, organized his first event ever in November (the Brighton hackathon in the UK). So be bold and organize an event in Bengaluru! And thanks to Yuvi for heading an event in Coimbatore. But more important than in-person events is followup. Many interested volunteers need mentorship -- code review, troubleshooting, feedback, and encouragement -- as they grow into contributors. I don't think our mentorship pipeline is very strong right now. Patches from new contributors languish for months before experienced MediaWiki developers review them. Inexperienced developers write to me and I don't have many candidates to delegate them to. If you are willing to volunteer as a mentor for a new Wikimedia technologist, please let me know. Right now, Yuvi and Srikanth Logic are the Indian mentors I know of. Are there others? -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pune hackathon scheduled 10-12 February 2012
On 12/14/2011 12:24 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: You are invited to the Pune Wikimedia hackathon. Date: 10-12 February 2012 Venue: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies Research (SICSR) at Symbiosis International University, Pune Extremely rough event page, soon to get more details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pune_Hackathon_Feb_2012 A Wikimedia hackathon is a chance to learn how to develop using MediaWiki, Phonegap, and our other technologies, and to work alongside experts. Software engineers, designers, and translators are welcome. We're tentatively planning to focus on internationalisation and localisation, mobile and offline Wikipedia access, and the gadgets framework. I aim to get more details in the next two weeks. If you're interested, please leave your name and your email address, or a link to your user page, on that event page. (A real registration system is coming soon.) Thanks! And please feel free to publicize this elsewhere. I've heard that, when marketing, you have to get the message to the recipient three times in three different ways before you have a good chance they've noticed it. So if you need something to help get the word out -- a sample tweet/dent, a leaflet, etc. -- let me know. Thanks! The registration page (to request an invitation to attend) is now open. Shortlink: http://is.gd/rjpNOA Full link: https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_USformkey=dEpiYTU3eTlaTkUxRUx1RlcwSFN2WFE6MQ#gid=0 -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Supporting Outreach
On 12/20/2011 10:35 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:45:31 +0530 From: Nitika ntan...@wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Supporting Outreach To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 9f8e609e-22f3-4d3f-b070-837d45a9c...@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Create a repository for all presentations as well as handouts, FAQs pages, etc. (prepared in English to begin with, but later translated to Indic languages). These presentations must be in distinct module so that there could be a standard basic introduction section, editing basics and then separate sections for specific sub-topics such as NPOV, referencing, WP:MOS, etc. These could be accessed at will by any community member and used / edited / adapted at will by them. I realise there might be some duplication because a lot of this exists in various places - but it will be useful to have them all together in one place. I think it would be great for all of this to live on the existing outreach wiki, https://outreach.wikimedia.org (example: https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf ). That might be a useful place to get cross-pollination from other people who are already working on Wikimedia outreach. -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Pune hackathon scheduled 10-12 February 2012
You are invited to the Pune Wikimedia hackathon. Date: 10-12 February 2012 Venue: Symbiosis Institute of Computer Studies Research (SICSR) at Symbiosis International University, Pune Extremely rough event page, soon to get more details: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pune_Hackathon_Feb_2012 A Wikimedia hackathon is a chance to learn how to develop using MediaWiki, Phonegap, and our other technologies, and to work alongside experts. Software engineers, designers, and translators are welcome. We're tentatively planning to focus on internationalisation and localisation, mobile and offline Wikipedia access, and the gadgets framework. I aim to get more details in the next two weeks. If you're interested, please leave your name and your email address, or a link to your user page, on that event page. (A real registration system is coming soon.) Thanks! And please feel free to publicize this elsewhere. I've heard that, when marketing, you have to get the message to the recipient three times in three different ways before you have a good chance they've noticed it. So if you need something to help get the word out -- a sample tweet/dent, a leaflet, etc. -- let me know. Thanks! -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Help with an WP outreach event in Gujarat
On 12/09/2011 11:59 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: On 12/09/2011 03:10 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 15:02:00 +0530 From: Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Help with an WP outreach event in Gujarat To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: CAHUtzBfOjBi3Um4tA2EJ0hW6KvevVBQTAt6pDAXupc=yyd6...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, This is User:Rangilo_Gujarati here basically from Gujarat and now in Pune, am planning an outreach event most probably a workshop in MS University Baroda, Gujarat during their forthcoming technical festival Footprintshttp://www.msu-footprints.org/. Also am the Campus Ambassador for India Education Program too, I need some input from you guys. The organizers of this event have basically no idea about what a community is or how WP works, since I ll be targeting newbies I am planning to start from Introduction to WP, then an editing session and main motto behind this would be to start an active community in Baroda or Gujarat and get the contributors to EN and GU WP and commons too. Now the organizers are asking few questions like Why anyone should attend it?, What would be the exclusivity of the workshop?, How can we (university and attendees) be benefited from this?. They are worried too much about exclusivity, how to convince them that these type of sessions are some thing more than exclusively in Footprints, first time in gujarat ?? Since I have no experience in conducting an outreach workshop independently I want your feedback on it, and what possibly should I answer them?. Please do reply with your valuable suggestions/critics. -- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20111203/03dfd2e6/attachment-0001.htm Arnav, at Footprints, if you meet people who are interested in contributing to Wikimedia's open source software projects, please do feel free to let them know about our efforts, such as MediaWiki. Here are some flyers or notes that you can use if they are suitable for you. Ten things technically inclined volunteers can do to help Wikimedia projects: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah/TechVolunteersCanDo The please contribute to MediaWiki flyer -- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki_flyer_2016_color.pdf Also, I am the coordinator for MediaWiki's participation in the Google Summer of Code, a selective paid summer internship for college students who want to work remotely on open source software projects. The homepage for that effort is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code and I can give you more information. I hope these are useful to you. Please feel free to translate, print, modify, link, and so on. Thank you! Good luck and best wishes! Hope you can realize great outcomes from this event. :-) -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia's participation in Google Summer of Code
On 11/30/2011 01:48 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:00:00 +0530 From: Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia's participation in Google Summer of Code To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: ca+30auneu4ikx61222z+vvnndgxz1zwdqgdhv5ypwvhm5vl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 01:53, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.orgwrote: I managed MediaWiki's participation in Google Summer of Code this year, and could talk with anyone interested in participating, anyone researching it, and anyone who is curious. :-) We try to document our participation on mediawiki.org wiki pages. Thanks Sumana for posting the summary voluntarily, was good to read them. Glad I could help! At the risk of sounding foolish comparing content creation and software development, I have few questions. Feel free to ignore them if they are foolish ones :) Yes, it is a very big difference, comparing content creation and software development. It might be more useful to try to look at other *writing* projects or other similar projects for comparison, such as essay contests and Wiki Loves Monuments. Also, GSoC is a FULL-TIME project for participants; they work 40 hours/week for three months. So you might want to consider Google Code-In as another model to compare http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/10/google-code-in-are-you-in.html . Code-In asks for code, documentation, and other contributions in the form of smaller tasks. Similarly OpenHatch http://openhatch.org/blog/ has the goal of bringing new people into open source with bite-size tutorials and tasks. You've asked some huge questions. I shall answer them as well as I can. 1. Do students come up with own project proposals / take up community's ideas and work on them. Whats the level of motivation / ownership between the two. I am asking this just to compare GEP's model of asking students to write on designated topics and if it has an impact on motivation. The answer is both. http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch007_finding-the-right-project/ and http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch008_writing-a-proposal/ give more details. Basically, open source communities have basic ideas that they offer the students. Students applying for GSoC have to choose among 175 open source projects, which vary in population, codebase size, language, platform, etc., etc., and create proposals for the tasks they'll spend 3 months working on. The students, in applying to work with any project, have to write proposals detailing what they will do and how. The timeline from 2011: http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/timeline You probably also want to read http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/defining-a-project/ . The mentors who have written that manual have a lot of experience regarding encouraging students. Different projects have different processes for soliciting proposals and managing proposal submissions. 2. What factors do you think make students to continue contributing to the opensource community? This is a big and open question and many people are trying to figure it out. Some thoughts on this from the GSoC mentors' manual: http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/building-a-lifetime-contributor/ There are many factors; some of them are probably very long-term, and some of them are easier to affect. Experts Leslie Hawthorn and Mel Chua think we have to work in terms of engineering education -- Hawthorn is working on ensuring that kids around the ages of 11-14 know that they have the power to tinker with software, and Chua has done a lot of work on bringing open source work into the undergraduate computer science curriculum via http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE . I think it helps if a student has free time to contribute to open source even during the academic year. So, having to earn money via part-time jobs, or having family responsibilities (cooking, cleaning, caretaking, etc.), or having parents who don't understand and scorn this hobby (you should be studying instead! why are you working for free?) decreases the likelihood of continued contribution. It helps a lot, I think, if students make personal connections, feel that their work is valued, can see that their work makes a difference, and can see a career path that open source contribution helps with. These are factors that Google Summer of Code and similar programs can help with. This is not a comprehensive list. There are people writing dissertations about this topic! :) 3. How crucial is the role of mentors in it. Who are the mentors usually(WMF staff / community members?), how do they join as mentors?. I am asking this particularly since I see mentors' involvement among reasons for failure. I
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mumbai hackathon followup
On 11/24/2011 11:18 AM, wikimediaindia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:30:52 +0530 From: Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mumbai hackathon followup To: Wikimedia India List wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: col102-w21adac28301e54d1acb87a85...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 hi Sumana, Thanks for that update and also thanks to the Engineering team at WMF for the Hackathon. Any possibilities on developers meeting each other and newbies attending these? Also, any possibilities to catch up for those who missed the session in Mumbai? warm regards, Pradeep Mohandas Pradeep, Thanks for your note! I am glad that the Wikimedia Foundation was able to help out and that I got to meet so many interesting people at the hackathon. If I am reading your question right, you are interested in future hackathons and other technical events? We are tentatively planning to run a hackathon in February in Pune, alongside GNUnify http://gnunify.in/ (GNUnify is 10-11 Feb), but I do not know details about that yet. And please keep an eye on this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings and these feeds: https://twitter.com/MediaWikiMeet https://identi.ca/mediawikimeet which tell you about upcoming meetings in physical and virtual space. You asked about catching up, for those who missed the Mumbai hackathon. We did not record any of the sessions of the hackathon (I'm sorry), but the Technical Liaisons and Developer Relations group is working on improving our documentation on mediawiki.org, starting with these recordings and materials: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Volunteer_coordination_and_outreach/Training_materials You might also be interested in some of the recent presentations we've given: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Presentations And Erik added a lot of links to his online notes from his plenary session: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=India_Hackathon_2011/Schedule_notes#Structure If there is anything specific that you're eager to learn more about, please let us know by asking in our group chat channel http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#mediawiki -- that's the fastest way to get pointers to more information! And if you'd like for more hackathons and other technical events to happen in your area, I can try to help. And of course you can set up an event on your own as well! Thanks. -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Quick Mumbai hackathon followup
For completeness, a copy of the message I just sent to the Wikimedia developers' email list, https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l . Original Message Subject: Quick Mumbai hackathon followup Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:28:41 -0500 From: Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org Organization: Wikimedia Foundation To: Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org Earlier this month, Wikimedia staff and volunteers got together in Mumbai, India to work on mobile, offline, and internationalisation/localisation. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/India_Hackathon_2011 Photos are up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victorgrigas#Hackathon_Mumbai_2011 Some notes on our outcomes, which included many new localisations for Kiwix and new input methods for MediaWiki, readying Narayam for Wikimedia Incubator, a prototype onscreen keyboard built in Narayam, Wikimedia Mobile ready for translation, new UI prototypes for language selection, and more: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/India_Hackathon_2011/Schedule_notes#Day_1_outcomes And I haven't even touched on mobile! An update specifically on mobile progress at the hackathon: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2011-November/005200.html -- Summary from Phil Chang: In summary, over one weekend more than 50 volunteers from many parts of India added their hard work and insights to the technical foundation of Wikipedia. In the mobile area alone, volunteers contributed to 17 features, as listed here (features that were worked on are marked with an H): http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/features#India_Hackathon We also got support and input from most of the major mobile operators in India about how to make our user experience better. Free access to Wikipedia is moving forward on a number of fronts, as we identified several forms of collaboration, not just in the form of Wikipedia Zero. For example, there seems to be widespread interest in using an RSS feed of the Article of the Day, and the top 5 languages in India are important. I'm asking Emmanuel to send an offline-related summary to https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/offline-l . And I'm predicting the localization folks will have a summary in their next showcase; watch https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n . This was the largest Wikimedia tech outreach event I've been a part of, with 80 or so new folks learning and becoming contributors. Thanks to the Wikimedia staffers who came, for -- as Alolita put it -- leading project teams to do some nice development, UI design, testing and accomplishing a lot in a short blip of time. Thanks to the local community and chapter for putting on Wiki Conference India, which happened at the same time: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011 Sorry to be brief; more details are at the links provided. I know that the i18n team also led a translation sprint and an intro to MediaWiki hacking in Pune after the Mumbai hackathon, but I'll leave it to them in case they want to report about that. -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Mumbai hackathon followup
Thank you so much for participating in the Mumbai Wikimedia hackathon. Here are some resources to help you keep learning and looped in to the Wikimedia technical community. Subscribe to wikitech-l, the developers' mailing list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l Browse our site at https://www.mediawiki.org , especially https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Development Join us in our 24/7 chat room: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_on_IRC Keep apprised of upcoming meetings: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings Wikimania 2012 will be in Washington, DC, USA. Read about it: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org and subscribe to the list so you'll know when you can apply for a travel sponsorship: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l Look at photos from the Mumbai hackathon (you might be in them!): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victorgrigas#Hackathon_Mumbai_2011 Upload your own photos in https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hackathon_Mumbai_2011 If you're into mobile, subscribe to the mobile developers' list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l and browse the Mobile Projects page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects If you're especially interested in internationalisation, subscribe to that list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n and get an account on TranslateWiki: http://translatewiki.net/ If you want to work on offline Wikimedia, subscribe to: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/offline-l and read http://www.kiwix.org/ If you want to work on Gadgets (front-end scripts using JavaScript), see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen For more information about Wikimedia India, see: http://wiki.wikimedia.in And about the Wikimedia Foundation: https://wikimediafoundation.org Thanks again for being part of this developers' meeting. Please keep in touch! -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
