Re: [WISPA] cnMaestro
For us it was efficient use of hardware. With OpenVZ / LXC we can run containers with negligible decrease in performance (less than 3% in our testing) and still get the needed isolation. Now with LXC they have lost live migration, so that stinks but they keep claiming it will return. We have been running a cluster for years and it works very well. We have 10G private storage network and do a lot of ZFS / iSCSI. Larry A. Weidig ( <mailto:lwei...@excel.net> lwei...@excel.net) Excel.Net, Inc. – <http://www.excel.net/> http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] cnMaestro What's the selling point of Proxmox over VMware? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:16 PM, Art Stephens <asteph...@ptera.com <mailto:asteph...@ptera.com> > wrote: Anyone successfully install the cnMaestro On-Premises VA on Proxmox? -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com <http://ptera.com> | facebook.com/PteraInc <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> | twitter.com/Ptera <http://twitter.com/Ptera> - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] cnMaestro
Art: We have actually went through this process and here is the documentation for the setup from our docs server, hope it helps: 1. Login to the virtualization host as root where this image will be initially built and run the following commands to download the image and prepare it for installation in our Proxmox environment: mkdir cnMaestro cd cnMaestro lynx https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/cnmaestro/ # Login and download OVA image tar -xvf *.ova qemu-img convert -f vmdk cnmaestro-on-premises_1.2.1-r1_amd64-disk1.vmdk -O qcow2 qcowdisk.qcow2 2. The using the Proxmox UI create a virtual machine with the following system specs: Item Value Name cor-cnm-00.excel.net OS Linux 4.x /3.x / 2.6 Kernel CD / DVD Do not use any media Hard Disk Bus: IDE, Storage: zfdStorage, Size: 80 CPU Sockets: 2, Cores: 2 Memory Fixed: 4096 Network Bridged mode, Model: Intel E1000 Hardware Display: VMware compatible (vmware) 3. We now need to get the disk image into the newly created virtual machine using the following commands as root from the folder created above: modprobe nbd max_part=63 qemu-nbd -c /dev/nbd0 /root/cnMaestro/qcowdisk.qcow2 dd if=/dev/nbd0 of=/dev/zvol/Storage/vm-NNN-disk-1 bs=1M # Replace NNN with the actual vmid for machine created in last step, this will take a while 4. Fire it up using the Proxmox console. It will initially have some issues waiting for network configuration, do not worry and just wait it out. Once booted login to the console using the username of cambium and password of cnmaestro. 5. At the Operations menu setup the Network and Password options as appropriate for the environment and then Reboot the server to make sure it comes up with the new settings. 6. Immediately login to the WebUI using the username admin and password admin. Change the password and create a second administrator account for access! NOTE: Google Chrome seems to have issues with the site. 7. At this point the server is up and running as needed. Larry A. Weidig ( <mailto:lwei...@excel.net> lwei...@excel.net) Excel.Net, Inc. – <http://www.excel.net/> http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Art Stephens Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 5:16 PM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: [WISPA] cnMaestro Anyone successfully install the cnMaestro On-Premises VA on Proxmox? -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com <http://ptera.com> | facebook.com/PteraInc <http://facebook.com/PteraInc> | twitter.com/Ptera <http://twitter.com/Ptera> - "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company." ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Tower mounting
Most of the time we have been using 120 sectors, but we are planning some new deployments with 90 degree sectors instead. Since most of the towers we are on had three legs it made 120 degree mounting pretty simple - one antenna per leg. What sort of mounting are people using for 4 sectors on these same towers. I am thinking something like the WiMAX tower mounts at Site1Pro might be the right solution: http://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_listc=633 But as I know, this list is full of knowledge and somebody likely has a great answer waiting for us. Thanks! Larry A. Weidig ( lwei...@excel.net ) Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a couple of what seem to be similar products available: Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so they live up to their name :) ) Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long time ago we used this Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware running on an open source operating system with custom code could fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself. Larry A. Weidig ( lwei...@excel.net ) Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free - Original Message - From: Dave Barker d...@broadlincwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product Back to the original question, is there anything else out there that does what Procera can do? On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote: I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera through Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using their web based support system. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith wi...@mncomm.com wrote: blockquote So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do similar functions that may be more cost effective? I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back from some actual users of their product or other similar products. Thanks Heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless /blockquote blockquote ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless /blockquote ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have a product and a library available. Have contacted them for additional information. Larry A. Weidig ( lwei...@excel.net ) Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product shou ld check out ipoque and their PACE engine Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote: We have done some searching in this arena and have only found a couple of what seem to be similar products available: Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs a lot so they live up to their name :) ) Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as Procera / Allot Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their boxes, would not EVER use again not because of the software / hardware but the owner / lead developer which may have changed as it was a long time ago we used this Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just having a difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say we all throw in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we have control over :) I have to believe some decent server quality hardware running on an open source operating system with custom code could fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself. Larry A. Weidig ( lwei...@excel.net ) Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free - Original Message - From: Dave Barker d...@broadlincwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product Back to the original question, is there anything else out there that does what Procera can do? On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote: blockquote I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera through Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using their web based support system. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith wi...@mncomm.com wrote: blockquote So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do similar functions that may be more cost effective? I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back from some actual users of their product or other similar products. Thanks Heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless /blockquote blockquote ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless /blockquote ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless /blockquote ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dual Frequency AP Radio
Everybody sounds like they are pleased with the Itelite antennas as well? Because three antennas to give us 3 120 2.4GHz and 3 120 5GHz sectors sounds awfully appealing. They seem to state that they will house the Rocket M radios as well as found on this page: http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/Ubiquiti-Antennas/ Though from that page it does not appear to have any 2/4/5 combo antennas listed. Would prefer to keep the rockets mounted inside of something and preferably metal. Thanks for any feedback. Larry A. Weidig ( lwei...@excel.net ) Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free - Original Message - From: Mike Delp miked...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:53:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Frequency AP Radio Itelite Sectors with 2.4 and 5 GHz wireless cards in a Mikrotik Routerboard is what we have on a couple of towers. Three antennas for full coverage in 2.4 and 5g. Point to multipoint on both bands. Mike On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Sam w...@csilogan.com wrote: Good Morning, I believe I know the answer to this already, however my managers wanted me to ask. Has anyone ever heard of an access point that has two different frequencies (ie. 2.4 and 5.8) and each of their antennas integrated all into a single unit? The thought process behind this being to save on tower space and load. This isn't referring to a full duplex configuration used for ptp links where one frequency transmits while the other frequency listens. This would be for PTMP between the tower and CPE units. Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Dual Frequency AP Radio
Yes, I have come across that section and specifically interested in the PRO-SECTOR-XL 2.4/5dual band_2xdual HV antenna. However, it states will hold Mikrotik stuff, but nothing about Ubiquiti. Assuming that can be overcome then pricing and availability would be next as this would be a phenonmenal solution assuming the antennas perform well and hold up. Larry A. Weidig ( lwei...@excel.net ) Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free - Original Message - From: Sam w...@csilogan.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:07:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Frequency AP Radio Hi Larry, I've not looked at it yet, but I did see this link...this may be the one for which you're looking. (Same for me as far as that goes) :) http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/Multi-Band-Antennas/ Sam On 2/13/2014 12:58, Larry A. Weidig wrote: Everybody sounds like they are pleased with the Itelite antennas as well? Because three antennas to give us 3 120 2.4GHz and 3 120 5GHz sectors sounds awfully appealing. They seem to state that they will house the Rocket M radios as well as found on this page: http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/Ubiquiti-Antennas/ Though from that page it does not appear to have any 2/4/5 combo antennas listed. Would prefer to keep the rockets mounted inside of something and preferably metal. Thanks for any feedback. Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net mailto:lwei...@excel.net) Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free *From: *Mike Delp miked...@gmail.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:53:26 PM *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Dual Frequency AP Radio Itelite Sectors with 2.4 and 5 GHz wireless cards in a Mikrotik Routerboard is what we have on a couple of towers. Three antennas for full coverage in 2.4 and 5g. Point to multipoint on both bands. Mike On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Sam w...@csilogan.com mailto:w...@csilogan.com wrote: Good Morning, I believe I know the answer to this already, however my managers wanted me to ask. Has anyone ever heard of an access point that has two different frequencies (ie. 2.4 and 5.8) and each of their antennas integrated all into a single unit? The thought process behind this being to save on tower space and load. This isn't referring to a full duplex configuration used for ptp links where one frequency transmits while the other frequency listens. This would be for PTMP between the tower and CPE units. Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Do WISPs need a deal with Google?
His link just redirects to: http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/07/google-internet-traffic/ Larry A. Weidig ( lwei...@excel.net ) Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:38:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do WISPs need a deal with Google? I tried to look at your web site, but could only find 403 Forbidden pages. Where are you located? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: wi...@metrocom.ca To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:26:22 AM Subject: [WISPA] Do WISPs need a deal with Google? Google Now Serves 25 Percent of North American Internet Traffic http://www.linkedin.com/e/-cfpvfc-hjjoh3ku-2w/nab/5765071836882673744/x/true/weekly/eml-ced-b-art-N-5/?hs=falsetok=2saVC-5CB6DlQ1 Everyone knows Google is big. But the truth is that it’s huge. On an average day, Google accounts for about 25 percent of all consumer internet traffic running through North American ISPs. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Rogue DHCP detection script
After that go into the Logging Rules and setup an action / rule for this. Here is our config (well the relevant part): /system logging action add email-start-tls=no email-to=ad...@mydomain.com name=EmailAdmin target=email /system logging add action=EmailAdmin disabled=no prefix= topics=dhcp,critical Hope that helps. Larry A. Weidig ( lwei...@excel.net ) Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 3:47:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Rogue DHCP detection script I have the alert configured, was trying to figure out how to tie it to send emails still wondering Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 4:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Rogue DHCP detection script Feature is built in. Alerts tab on the dhcp-server. /tool e-mail send to=foo...@foo.com body=the body subject=bad dhcp server found Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Anyone has a handy Mikrotik Script that would alert via email on the detection of a rogue dhcp server? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] OT: Linux Virtualization
We have used a number of these, done a ton of benchmarking and here is a quick summary of my opinions. This could end up being a holy war, but hope not. Almost all testing was run using iSCSI storage and typically bonded Gig interfaces and identical hardware/tests performed. We used pretty much the entire Phoronix test suite for getting overall comparisons. Here are my observations: 1. Both Xen and VMWare offer the best and easiest to use interface. If price was not a factor I prefer Vsphere but Xen is more reasonably priced. The free version of VMWare's stuff seems to be going away in version 5 so that might be an issue if you are going to use the free versions. 2. Unless you need Live Migration or some of the other features of the paid versions the free perform identical. 3. We saw them Xen/VMWare about 65%-75% of the bare metal results using our benchmarks (* see disclaimer below). 4. KVM based virtualization was near 75%-80% of bare metal (* again disclaimer) 5. Containers (OpenVZ or Proxmox (does KVM/Containers and nice web interface)) hit nearly 98% of bare metal! So, if you are virtualizing a lot of Linux systems and can live with the caveats of containers they provide excellent performance. 6. If you are looking to sell virtual machines to customers you might want to look at Parallels bare metal servers with the web addition. This works very similar to OpenVZ (they are related) and provides KVM/Containers. We have tested version 5 a bunch as well and performance matches the FOSS stuff, with a very nice interface. In addition it allows for all sorts of accounting/limits on disk, CPU, network traffic,... if needed. * There are two factors we have seen contributing to this. First, using iSCSI in a virt machine you get the drivers for the Ethernet dropping perf a few percent. Also, since the bare metal machine had ALL of the RAM, while we typically gave virtual machines 4GB for testing they were able to do more file/block caching which bumped rates on some of those tests. Your workload that you are looking to virtualize will be a big factor in picking the proper tool. We have all three in production at this point, but will probably settle on one going forward, most likely Containers/KVM since we like the blend of performance and versatility this provides in addition to the FOSS portion. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net mailto:lwei...@excel.net ) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Linux Virtualization Xen and Vmware are pretty good. I would not suggest using a Linux distro and would go with a bare metal (vsphere, xen's alternative) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: I have worked with Linux quite a little mainly with CentOS as an email server etc. I was curious about trying to do some virtualization now. Leaning towards FOSS. Seems like OpenVZ is easiest to implement but also looking at KVM and XEM also. Seems that CentOS 6 will be focusing on KVM. What else is everyone doing here? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] alvarion question.
And the type of radios allowed to connect. AUS's will not allow connections from the 24 or 54 radios, even at lower rates. The AUS's can be upgraded to the full AU's with a license key. They are hardware wise identical. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] alvarion question. Speed, No. No difference Just the amount of SU's that are allowed to connect. Thanks, Cameron Kilton Project Manager Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com c...@midcoast.com (207) 594-8277 x 108 On 5/17/2011 2:47 PM, Eduardo wrote: Is there some difference between an AUS and an AU? I mean in terms of the speed. Eduardo - Original Message - *From:* Cameron Kilton mailto:c...@midcoast.com *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] alvarion question. Rev A units topped out around 30mbit net Reb B units around 32 mbit net but added Wireless Link Prioritization (good for VoIP) Rev C units around 35mbit net throughput. I have dozens of these in the air, super reliable. 3M SU will get your 3 down and 2 up 6M SU will get you 6 down 4 up. 24M SU will get you around 15 down and 10 up (cross your fingers for high modulation 54M SU, need great modulation you can see the full net throughput but reality is around 30mbit net in a point to point situation. Thanks, Cameron On 5/17/2011 1:17 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: I think you're talking about breezenet era equipment (hopper) at these speeds. The VL lines were faster. mc On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Gary Evans wirel...@kosinet.com mailto:wirel...@kosinet.com mailto:wirel...@kosinet.com wrote: They're supposed to handle 3 meg. Reality is closer to 2 meg. Good / reliable stuff though. -Gary- Good Afternoon, I have a question about an Alvarion BreezeAccess VL/AU-SA. Does anyone know if there is a way to find out how much bandwidth an access point can manage? Thanks, --Eric Roth Technology Specialist Webjogger Internet Services (845) 757-4000 tel:%28845%29%20757-4000 www.webjogger.net http://www.webjogger.net http://www.webjogger.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas...
My initial response is fiber, due to distances. However, you might be able to get away with something less costly depending on requirements. What speed? 10, 100, 1000, 10G... There are lots of Ethernet extenders that can give you speeds to 100 Mbps over coax, copper,... just Google it and you will find plenty. We have used these when fiber is not an option. However, make sure you take grounding between buildings into account as well with stuff like coax/copper. If you can afford it fiber is your best option. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] looking for ideas... I have a special job to do. I need to connect 4 sites together in a line and provide Ethernet connectivity between them. I may NOT use wireless to do this. I can run overhead cable of most any type I need to. Coax, cat3 or cat5, or even fiber if the price is right... Site 1 to site 2 is 700 ft. Site 2 to site 3 is 900 ft. Site 3 to site 4 is 2400 ft. Looking for options... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Autoreply: Re: OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from theInternet
Glad I still have unlimited data plan :). Thank you! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 28, 2011, at 3:18 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 15:06, cshiv...@aristotle.net wrote: (using a broken auto-responder) I've removed this address from this list. Rejoice! David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wow
Just wanted to pass this along, as I think it summarizes what the general public believes is the entire issue at stake: http://www.theopeninter.net/ Yikes! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software
This is not true, you can recover files from a formatted drive. We do it all the time. The problem is the more and more it is used the less you can recover. Also, obviously the part of the disk where it wrote the OS during installation will be gone, but fortunately that a lot of times is where it was the first time and the actual data files (pictures, documents, music,...) are recoverable. The tool I would suggest is: http://www.r-studio.com/ Though if you want the technician version it is pricey. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net mailto:lwei...@excel.net ) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software If the Windows installer formatted the drive it's gone, all gone. What version of Windows (XP, Vista, 7)? Greg On Dec 3, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I don't know. I wasn't there and no one asked me about it first - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnen mailto:os10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software Did the Windows installer (the app) ask to format the drive? Greg On Dec 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: He reinstalled windows. All traces of the old files are gone. I need a program that can grab the files directly from the disk. I know they exist, I just don't know which one's are a good bang for the buck. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, file recovery software Marlon, It depends on what you mean by reload windows. You might need a file recovery program such as Data Recovery Wizard, etc. Or it may be as simple as rolling it back to an earlier restore date. For transferring files, I use an invaluable tool: http://thetornado.com - so easy a chimp can do it! On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Hi All, I have a customer that decided to reload windows. They now have no family pictures left. ug I've told them to leave the computer off till I can figure out how to get the files back. My plan is to get a USB hard drive adapter and use that to pull off any pics I can find. Anyone know of a good program that'll dig through the drive and look for jpgs and such? thanks marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager
I am in 100% agreement with Travis on this. We had the EXACT same experience. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 11:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager Run... run far far away... We ran an ETINC box for many years, until we couldn't take his support and attitude any longer... or his nazi licensing system. Travis Microserv On 10/15/2010 10:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Dennis has been around for a very long time. http://www.etinc.com/ marlon - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercyforbes.me...@wabroadband.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:15 PM Subject: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the ports or bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week). I'm looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions. Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik Multi Hop BGP w/Cogent
We are attempting to add Cogent as another BGP peer for upstream connectivity. No matter what we try we are unable to get the link to establish. Wondering if anybody else with Cogent, BGP and Mikrotik would care to share an example of their config. Sitting in NOC, waiting words of wisdom... Thanks! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Multi Hop BGP w/Cogent
Just wanted to sent a HUGE THANKS out to Blake for his assistance with getting this up and running! Just for reference if people run into this in the future it seems that Cogent requires you to setup two BGP connections to them, the first simply to advertise your prefixes which MUST include the loopback they assign you. Once they get that they then know how to route to you and then you can get the remaining routes from the other session into your network. There is a discussion of this on the Mikrotik forums at: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=6t=5039start=0 Hopefully this will help others in the future as Cogent really just offered the blanket we do not know Mikrotik response when I queried them for assistance. Again THANKS! Can now start heading home (though some of my paths are flooded and roads closed from the storms we are having). * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Multi Hop BGP w/Cogent Larry, Feel free to give me a call to discuss this issue. -- Blake Covarrubias Systems and Network Manager Beamspeed, LLC 928-343-0300 ext 214 On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Butch Evans would probably be the best person for that. Definitely the best person I know for Mikrotik and BGP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Larry A Weidig lwei...@excel.net wrote: We are attempting to add Cogent as another BGP peer for upstream connectivity. No matter what we try we are unable to get the link to establish. Wondering if anybody else with Cogent, BGP and Mikrotik would care to share an example of their config. Sitting in NOC, waiting words of wisdom... Thanks! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] alvarion vl grounding
We have looked as well, but with the VL's using the 55VDC there does not seem to be anything else available. Would possibly be interested in purchasing with you direct if that will help our pricing more. Hit me offline if you want to discuss that as it is probably not list appropriate. Thanks! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] alvarion vl grounding We have been using Transtector ALPU-ALVR units, they work great, but the price on these units keeps climbing higher and higher it seems. They are at almost $200/unit with tessco. Transtector directly gave me a better price for a quantity purchase, but before I move forward with that, I would like to know if anybody is using another product with good success. -- Thanks, Cameron WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
We have been using: http://www.speedtest.net/mini.php for a couple of years. The only caveat is that you must reinstall it every month as it expires otherwise. The good thing is that is a VERY simple process. Seems to be the most accurate free test we could find. I really like Visualware's products, but they seem too expensive. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Carl Shivers Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 4:17 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up on my network? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
Good point. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests Wouldn't you saturate your upload 3Mb/s before you could reach even 1Gb/s? On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Larry A Weidig lwei...@excel.net wrote: Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out what to charge! Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a second :) Not a very accurate tool! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over a year since I last tried it. I actually found ajaxometer to be much better. http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/ On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote: We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical competitors get sent to our network as well which has the side benefit of a little advert for us. Regards Michael Baird From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up on my network? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives
Bob: That is funny! Lived in that parallel universe myself :) I cannot recall one of those failing every either, in fact I suspect if I dig around I can find some still around here. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives The best and most reliable hard drives I ever had were Quantum Bigfoot and Quantum fireball drives. But that was when I lived in a parallel universe. I was also rich, very good looking and my children were respectful and well behaved. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives Running a large Data Center I can say yes ... Every component is subject to failure. I have seen CPU's die - I have seen boards - Ram and the like as well. Funny - never had crucial ram doa or die ... in thousands of machines... Samsung ram - feels like its all doa On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone had a CPU go bad? I've never once seen this. I've never had RAM go bad either, though I have had some bad sticks DOA. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: We can easily hold others accountable if we use the retail components rather than the OEM. 3 years on the Intel processor, 3 on the motherboard, 5 years on the hard drive, etc. If a part fails, we swap it out and rma the bad one. But that very rarely happens anyhow. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hooper Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives Being a system builder does seem like it would be pretty tough these. Most of the shops around here have shifted from doing system builds to becoming Value-Added Resellers. Even with servers it seems best to go with a name brand, what with HP's 3 year warranties and all. And, let's face it, it's nice being able to hold someone else accountable. Regards, Charles Mike Hammett wrote: How can you be a system builder anymore? I use only top quality parts because there's not enough margin on the low quality ones to justify the support... but then Dell's $400 desktop will work just fine for many people for 5 years. The only market I've found for system builders are servers, gaming machines, and other custom one-off applications. I can't get the hardware for a decent system for less than $600, then you have to add Windows, etc. I've found that buying from NewEgg or ProVantage or TigerDirect or... is significantly cheaper than DH, ASI, MA Labs, etc. often to the point where after profit, the NewEgg device is less expensive than my cost from a distributor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Steven Barnes st...@pcswin.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:53 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives As a system builder. I disagree. I have sold seagate drives for 18 years. I built over 200 systems last year. I had 2 I had to RMA. I have returned 20% of Wd and 30% of hitachi. I will stay with Seagate. Get a good distributor like ASI . Steve On 4/20/10, Adam Kennedy adamkenn...@omnicity.net wrote: Where do you guys buy your drives from that you have had such good luck with WD and not Seagate? Since 1994 I have had countless failures with Maxtor and Western Digital disks. In fact just a few weeks ago I had TWO Western Digitals fail in the same server and they were Raid Edition disks! In my lifetime I have had maybe two Seagate drives fail. It also makes a huge difference, with any brand, what model of drive you buy. If you buy a cheap version of any of them then you are just asking for issues. Western digital I would stick with anything Black edition or better. Seagate I would stick with anything XT or better. Avoid the cheapy versions of anything, most of the time those cheapy disks are not tested before leaving the factory. -- Adam Kennedy Network Engineer Omnicity, Inc
Re: [WISPA] Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives
I so wholeheartedly agree on not using Seacrates. It was a sad, sad day when the bought/ruined Maxtor. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives Friends dont let friends use Seagates :) On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: FYI. If anyone is using Seagate 7200.11 SATA hard drives (500gb to the terabyte) and have been experiencing random blue screens or lockups, they have been having firmware problems for awhile on these drives and you should backup your data and send them back to Seagate via RMA. The 7200.11 can be usually found on the top left hand corner. I've found that even in a raid, they can fail pretty much at the same time and thus thwarting the protection of the raid. I've talked to one other WISPA member who had this problem (As well as my own experience with them - 5 sent back already on my own) and thought others may want to look to see what's in their servers. They were flashed with the wrong firmware and experience a countdown of sorts then eventually fail. Again, if in a raid, they will essentially fail at the same time if installed at the same time. I have went as far as RMAing one that showed no issues and they replaced that one as well with no questions. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Need SU-A-5.8-3-BD-VL
If anybody has any new/used SU-A-5.8-3-BD-VL radios (hw rev C or later) please hit me off list with pricing and quantities. Thanks! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
I am in total agreement! The iPhone is the best phone/gps I have ever owned. MotionX is nice, considering the TomTom stuff that just came out, but would really like to test drive it first. That along with ssh, rap, van clients and instant Exchange sync make it a very useful tool for us. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? My iphon gps is so sensitive it works indoors a lot. Puts a dot on the building where I am inside Oh yeah Most gps units can not stream live google earth images to hires large handheld screen either. I find this the most useful gps I've ever owned and I've had dozens. I really like the motionx gps app for the phone it does more than the garmin I had Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:15 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
That was of course supposed to be rdp and vpn, not rap and van. Darn spell checkers :) * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? I am in total agreement! The iPhone is the best phone/gps I have ever owned. MotionX is nice, considering the TomTom stuff that just came out, but would really like to test drive it first. That along with ssh, rap, van clients and instant Exchange sync make it a very useful tool for us. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone? My iphon gps is so sensitive it works indoors a lot. Puts a dot on the building where I am inside Oh yeah Most gps units can not stream live google earth images to hires large handheld screen either. I find this the most useful gps I've ever owned and I've had dozens. I really like the motionx gps app for the phone it does more than the garmin I had Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:15 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
Re: [WISPA] Limitations of old VL SUs
The only other restrictions I am aware of is that they do not support modulation level 8 and you cannot enable burst mode if you use wep. Not sure if Rev A has additional restrictions, we have a couple of Rev B so that is how I know those. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Limitations of old VL SUs I'm looking at picking up a gross of old Alvarion 5.8Ghz VL SUs. They are a mix of Rev A and B. I know that you can't do 10Mhz channels on anything before Rev C, but is there anything else to watch out for? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall
www.untangle.com - Awesome product that runs on standard hardware. * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D.. Nix, Jr Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall Yes, I use mikrotik for end user protection and routing but I'm not sure that will fit the bill here. I think I may need more of a corporate type solution. I've used Watchguard and cisco products in the past but I thought maybe I could save some $$ and go with a linux homebrew -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall Maybe you could provide more detail as to your application. In most situations I agree with Gino, MikroTik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Mikrotik Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick D.. Nix, Jr Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:30 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall Any suggestions on a good linux firewall distro. I'm looking at either implementing this or going with an older Cisco PIX 525. Which would be the best way to go? Something with a nice GUI would be good Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Conference
Is that Tom DeReggi in the background? * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Conference
Guess it was Tom :) * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: Cat5 ferrite beads
Thanks for the follow-up Marlon! We have already ordered the following: http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=74271733virtualkey5111 virtualkey710-74271733 This came as a suggestion from Eje - thanks! Larry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: towert...@contesting.com Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Cat5 ferrite beads Here's where we got our beads at. Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; e...@wisp-router.com Cc: off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads Hi Apryl, Where did we get those Ferrite beads? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Larry A Weidig lwei...@excel.net To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads Thanks, but that only took me to a search page with 4,991 Matches. That does not help narrow it down much, just slightly fewer than a Google search produced :) We are looking for ones that can snap onto existing runs/terminations. Thanks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?N=2105407 / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads Can somebody supply me with a link to a source for these? Thanks! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
Can somebody supply me with a link to a source for these? Thanks! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
Thanks, but that only took me to a search page with 4,991 Matches. That does not help narrow it down much, just slightly fewer than a Google search produced :) We are looking for ones that can snap onto existing runs/terminations. Thanks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?N=2105407 / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads Can somebody supply me with a link to a source for these? Thanks! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] bonding
Travis: We have a similar setup with ATT on their network as you have with Qwest. We are able to use Mikrotik and MlPPPoE to created bonded connections through 2 or more DSL links for sites that require additional bandwidth. I believe though this is something that needs to be supported/setup by the LAC's that the DSL links connect into before the traffic is tunneled over to you. We also then needed to allow multilink in the virtual-template profile (Cisco) for the account and setup Radius to allow multi-link for the account. This is the case for us and now that it is setup is VERY simple to do. Larry Excel.Net, Inc. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 10:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] bonding Hi, We currently provide DSL service using Qwest. We are a megahost provider, meaning we have a DS3 directly to Qwest, and then we can sell DSL circuits using our bandwidth, etc. In the past, we have been able to bond multiple DSL lines using a Cisco router on the customer side and then using Cisco's CEF protocol. This provides a true bonded connection, because it does a per packet load balance. Is there a better solution? I have to use a Cisco on our NOC side, but I would prefer to find something cheaper. Any ideas on what protocol may work? MLPPP or ? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OneConnectIP down
Sounds like you now have New Years plans ;) Happy New Year to all on the list! Larry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:14 PM To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com; Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OneConnectIP down Hi, It looks a like a large VoIP/ISP provider in the western US has gone out of business. OneConnectip (www.oneconnectip.com) is apparently in a legal battle with Qwest. However, Qwest has basically turned off most (if not all) of their services (over 100,000 DSL lines, backhauls, T1, DIA, etc.) and I now have their clients calling us wanting us to hook them up TODAY. Many people are going to be completely screwed because they turned over their main business number to OneConnect and Qwest doesn't give those back (they go back in the main number pool after so many days). Just in our small market of 50,000 there are over 100 businesses that are completely down. Yet another reason why I have always said to not have voice and Internet service from the same provider. These businesses are now dead in the water (no voice, no internet). Some of them have just sent employees home because they can't do ANYTHING today. :( Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] TR-FDD
Has anybody used Tranzeo's N-connector kit for the TR-FDD radios to hook them up to external antennas. Any tricks for getting the N-connector through the metal plate and plastic cover that you care to share? For us this is the longest part of setting these up. Almost frustrating enough to stop purchasing them. Thanks! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme
Did I miss some sort of announcement from Trango about not being in the PtMP business any longer? Can you elaborate? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Nstreme They have worked with Trango in the past. You'd think they'd license Trango's polling scheme since Trango is no longer in the PtMP business. I contacted MT support, since I've had this issue. In our dialog, they said they are working on something, but it's too soon to tell when it'll be done, if at all possible. I soon will be evaluating other options. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: [WISPA] MT Nstreme Hi, For anyone that would like to see the Mikrotik Nstreme protocol re-designed to support more than 30 clients (their new recommendation), and have lower, consistent latency, please email them directly and let them know ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). They claim they are listening to customer requests and will work on a solution if they get enough requests to fix it. Please also CC: me on the email so I can have an idea of how many people are interested. thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Direct TV interference from 802.11b client?
We have seen this probably a couple of times ourselves. For us in every instance it was the power supply causing the interference. Easy enough to test, unplug the radio but leave the power adapter in the outlet connected to nothing. If still interference you can try swapping the power supply or move one of the two to a different circuit if possible. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Direct TV interference from 802.11b client? Are you using the satellite ground block? Is your ethernet cable running up with there cable? If so is it shielded? We have a number of installs literally on the same mast because they didn't want a second mast. We've never had an issue. We run our own ground from the radio to a ground rod and try to keep the cable away from the dish cable. Matt wrote: I had a customer call. She said she had some time so she was going to call before her satellite guy was going to. The customer has been installed for a couple years, but she swears that her 'pixelated' satellite reception on channels 3,5 and 9 are due to my system. The satellite folks replaced the dish, and head, and finally blamed my equipment mount a couple feet to the side of their dish. This customer claims that when pixelation occurs, she can unplug our equipment and the problems 'disappears'. Lets see, 2.4Ghz and what, 6 or 11G for the dish tv. don't see where on the RF front there is a remote possibility of interference. The coax goes around the house, our cat5 goes thru the crawlspace. Anyone ever have these kinds of issues? The customer expects me to re-install equipment on the other side of the house for free? Any suggestions? Can you lock the ethernet on a different rate and see if it makes a difference? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL issue
How do you disable Noise Immunity, just by setting it from Automatic to Manual? Do the other settings need to be adjusted as well or just left at their defaults. Can anybody explain the benefit from turning this off. Sorry for all the questions, just want to learn more about the pros/cons before messing with it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL issue The Mod is switching as it is supposed to. Noise Immunity has been off. -Cam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL issue Check your mod levels over time to make sure they are switching gears down to lower mod levels during noise intervals. Also definitely turn off noise immunity. Apparently the noise immunity feature makes you less likely to have noise immunity. :-) Scriv On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Ryan Langseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What firmware are you running? the 5.0.18 is supposed to handle noise better. I have been told to turn off automatic noise immunity on our VL. In our case it did help some. Have you run a Spectrum Analysis with the AU? find the quietest channel. Run a real SA, check h-pol too. Ultimately we switched to H-pol on our VL, way less noise. Ryan Cameron Kilton wrote: I have a 5.8ghz sector running in a fairly nosing environment. From time to time, it stops pass data. I'm able to telnet into this device and see associations, but I cannot ping the or telnet to the client SU's until I reboot the AU-VL. Anybody have any good ideas. I've done some of the easy stuff, change freq, new IDU but no luck so far. Thank You, Cameron Kilton Broadband Department Assistant Systems Administrator Midcoast Internet Solutions http://www.midcoast.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (207)594-8277 ext. 108 -- -- This e-mail message may contain material that is confidential or proprietary to Midcoast Internet Solutions. If you are not the intended recipient(s) or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender, destroy all copies of this message, and delete this message from your computer. -- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ryan Langseth System Administrator InvisiMax email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 218.745.6030 Cell: 701.739.1577 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble
We have gone through similar, but received adequate warning and the town worked very well with us to make sure we could get equipment protected. If they are not willing to work with you maybe contact your subs and get them to call the town letting them know they cannot live without service for a month (or more realistically two). Maybe if they feel the numbers it will help them to work with you. I have used a similar strategy for getting towers approved for locations I have met resistance. Brought along a number of residential/business who are all voting members (that is key) to the meetings stating they wanted our service and that the tower was needed for them to get cost effective access. Good luck and hopefully you can get them to work with you. Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble The contract they have says the city only has to give them 48 hours... they actually gave 72 hours. A judge is not going to grant an injunction when they followed the contract that both parties agreed upon. Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 2 wrote: If the choice is get the town fathers ruffled or losing your business, I know which direction I would go. An injunction only puts the project on hold to force everyone to come and talk. I have used this method before with good success. I would most certainly have a lawyer ready to contact a judge if you are not getting anywhere. What do you have to lose? - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Getting legal involved would pretty much guarantee getting booted off the tower completely once your current contract is up. I would talk to them and see what can be worked out by having you work around their crews. Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 2 wrote: Talk to a judge for an emergency injunction. That is interfering with interstate commerce. - Original Message - From: Patrick Nix Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: [WISPA] Watertower trouble Got a situation... just received a call from the town's water dep't administrator telling me we have to be off of the tower in 3 days due to maintenance on tower. Evidently there is lead in the tower and a contractor is coming in to sandblast and repaint inside and out of the tower, as well as bring it up to safety standards. The problem is this is the only location available in this area to service approx 150 subs, and we received 3 days notice on a project they have evidently been working on for 4-5 months. Anyway has anyone had to work around similar situations and if so how long does this process normally take... they tell me it could be up to 2 months. By that time there will be no one left that will want service. Any thoughts? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (800) 638-2614 http://www.csweb.net http://www.csweb.net/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTENTION: This e-mail may contain information that is confidential in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dual WAN Router
We have been using the Linksys RV042 and RV082 routers which both have dual WAN ports. We have had good success with these. The only difference being 4 10/100 or 8 10/100 ports. Hope this helps! Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Merkel Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Dual WAN Router Anyone have any recommendations on a dual wan router? We plan to setup a customer on DSL and wireless and use the wireless for terminating VPN traffic and DSL for internet traffic and then failover for redundancy. I've been investigating this Netgear unit. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122149Tpk=FVX5 38NA It seems to be fairly affordable but would like to know what everyone else has found to work well. Thanks, Eric WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Shielded CAT5 connectors
Recently there was a discussion about shielded CAT5 cable and specifically Shireen. We ordered a couple of boxes to check it out and seems to be working. Where are people buying shielded CAT5 connectors at a good price? We would likely order them 500 at a time, but I have not found anything under about $0.75/connector. Are people using the shielded connectors? * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Antenna
Has anybody ever seen part of an antenna fail. We have a 3 sector site and it seems like about 60 degrees of one of the antennas is failing based on plotting customer sites. Signal to noise in their section have dropped about 10dB (it is a 15dBi antenna), yet other customers on the same antenna are not seeing any drop. This is VL so we do not really get a real RSSI unfortunately, though I had thought Patrick told us we were going to get this. Thanks! * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] tranzeo challenges
I have a couple of Tranzeo radios with the exact same problem. Make a change and the Ethernet port goes dead. We do have managed switches and can see that the link is still active. In fact changing speeds on the switch will usually bring it back to life, but not always. Tranzeo's suggestion was to reset the unit to factory defaults and set it up again. This has not helped on our instance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tranzeo challenges I've got one doing a similar thing. Every time a change is made to the unit (two of them now) it shuts off it's ethernet port. Today I'm going to install a different switch. I'm also going to make sure that the other radio on that mast and the switch are on the same surge protector in case there's a goofy grounding or backfeed issue going on. In my case I had a Smartbridges APPro up there, worked just fine for years, then suddenly started dropping customers. Installed the TR6015 and things were fine, till it started dropping them too. Now I have a TR6000 in place with a Maxrad 60* sector and it acts strange too. Gotta be some kind of electrical weirdness. Finding it will be the challenging part :-). laters, marlon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:48 PM Subject: [WISPA] tranzeo challenges We have a connectorized tranzeo AP set up to feed a couple clients. We've gone through a couple AP radios that have exhibited the same symptoms- They power up fine, clients connect up fine, SNR looks good. After about 10 mins, the AP stops responding. It's still powered up, but you cant get into it on the ethernet side. Rebooting doesnt help. We've swapped everything out. The cable run tests good and is @ 250' long. We are using the 18v power supply that came with the unit. Could the brick not have enough juice to power the unit at that distance? Any suggestions much appreciated. Thanks Chris This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] BumbleBee Spectrum Analyzer
Has anybody used one of these with their WISP operations and care to comment on how well they work, either publicly or privately. We are looking to purchase one, but would like to make sure they work in real life situations. The two applications we would like to use them for are tracking down sources of interference and for new sites performing some initial baseline signal level readings to see if the site will work. I appreciate any feedback that anybody can provide. Thanks! * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH
Mike/Patrick: Any further details about this product which could be made available to the list? Thanks! Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Cowan Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH 900 VL is coming It will be an outstanding product. I already placed a huge inventory order. Mike At 08:06 PM 11/10/2007, you wrote: We have some VL in the air, real noisy area. We had to run 10Mhz channels on H-POL, so we see 11-12Mbps net TCP throughput. We run VOIP on it also, Works very well. I think we paid somewhere around 4000 per AU, and 399 per SU-A-5.8-6-BD-VL hardware Rev E. I honestly like it better than Canopy. We just install it and forget it. This stuff just plain works. Now if only they would make VL in 2.4Ghz and 900Mhz. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.wirelessconnections.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH
We have a number of new tower sites going up at the moment and would definitely consider this instead of the Trango if available. Please keep me updated as this progresses. Thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH No formal news yet Larry re time frames, except that it is coming and it will be based on the VL platform. In other words, whatever VL can do, it will do though it will use a smaller channel of course. So throughput and VoIP performance should be quite good. The NLOS performance should be exceptional due to the optimized OFDM and the low frequency. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH Mike/Patrick: Any further details about this product which could be made available to the list? Thanks! Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Cowan Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH 900 VL is coming It will be an outstanding product. I already placed a huge inventory order. Mike At 08:06 PM 11/10/2007, you wrote: We have some VL in the air, real noisy area. We had to run 10Mhz channels on H-POL, so we see 11-12Mbps net TCP throughput. We run VOIP on it also, Works very well. I think we paid somewhere around 4000 per AU, and 399 per SU-A-5.8-6-BD-VL hardware Rev E. I honestly like it better than Canopy. We just install it and forget it. This stuff just plain works. Now if only they would make VL in 2.4Ghz and 900Mhz. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.wirelessconnections.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH
Sorry, meant that to be offlist. I apologize for that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH We have a number of new tower sites going up at the moment and would definitely consider this instead of the Trango if available. Please keep me updated as this progresses. Thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH No formal news yet Larry re time frames, except that it is coming and it will be based on the VL platform. In other words, whatever VL can do, it will do though it will use a smaller channel of course. So throughput and VoIP performance should be quite good. The NLOS performance should be exceptional due to the optimized OFDM and the low frequency. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry A Weidig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH Mike/Patrick: Any further details about this product which could be made available to the list? Thanks! Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Cowan Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH 900 VL is coming It will be an outstanding product. I already placed a huge inventory order. Mike At 08:06 PM 11/10/2007, you wrote: We have some VL in the air, real noisy area. We had to run 10Mhz channels on H-POL, so we see 11-12Mbps net TCP throughput. We run VOIP on it also, Works very well. I think we paid somewhere around 4000 per AU, and 399 per SU-A-5.8-6-BD-VL hardware Rev E. I honestly like it better than Canopy. We just install it and forget it. This stuff just plain works. Now if only they would make VL in 2.4Ghz and 900Mhz. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.wirelessconnections.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
[WISPA] Trango Site
Are others having problems with Trango's web site/phones. We have not been able to get to their site the last couple of days. Tried calling to see what is up and ended up in voice mail for the general mailbox. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Trango Site
More than willing to cut them some slack, just curious. Thanks for the updates from everybody. Hope that everything can get under control out there and you guys are minimally affected. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Site I believe they are in the San Diego area which is heavily impacted by the Southern California wildland fires. They may have a) evacuated, b) lost power, or c) lost Internet access. I'm in the LA area and the wireless ISP serving me lost power at their access point location (above Topanga and near Malibu) and was off the air from about 4 PM yesterday until 1 AM this morning They said backup generators were not permitted on the mountaintop so they were saving their last 3-4 hours of battery backup to use this morning for the first few hours of the business day. I think commercial power has now been restored to the mountaintop because Internet connectivity has now been up since 1 AM. Anyway, it would be good to cut Trango some slack as circumstances may be beyond their control. jack Larry A Weidig wrote: Are others having problems with Trango's web site/phones. We have not been able to get to their site the last couple of days. Tried calling to see what is up and ended up in voice mail for the general mailbox. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting FCC Part 15 Certification for Manufacturers and Service Providers Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] tower site monitoring help
Mac: We use these at a lot of our tower sites to monitor them for these same things: http://www.networktechinc.com/enviro-mini.html They work well and connect via Ethernet. They can send out e-mail notifications when something triggers which should be able to send the text message you are looking for. Hope that helps. Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] tower site monitoring help I have a tower owner whom we rent space on 6 of his towers that wants to monitor temperature, the door, battery voltage and the strobes via my wireless. He states that he has single simple open/closed contacts at these sites, but I haven't a clue as to what we need to get him connected. He also would like it to notify him via voice mail/text message for an outage. Any ideas, thoughts or suggestions? TIA, Mac ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Conduits
One method if the conduit is empty is to attach a light pull string to a ping pong ball and then to suck it through with a vacuum on the conduit from the opposite end as the ping pong ball. This of course assumes the conduit is tight sealed. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 2:38 PM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Conduits So one has a long piece of conduit (150'). How would I get wires and the pull string through the conduit in the first place? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Equipment for sale
Hope that posting this is not an issue. I have a bunch of used/new equipment for sale that I figure is best posed for this list. All of the used equipment has been used for less than 2 weeks at a recent event that took place in our area. I have the following items: Qty Item --- 2 Tranzeo TR-CPQ-19f (New) 1 Tranzeo TR-CPQ-19f (Used) 4 Tranzeo TR-CPQ-15f (New) 4 Tranzeo TR-CPQ-Nf (New) 5 Tranzeo TR-GD24-24 Antennas (New) 3 Tranzeo TR-6500f Access points (Used) 3 Tranzeo TR-24H-120-16 120 Sector Antenna (Used) 1 HP 4000m (p/n: J4121A) 40 port managed 10/100 switch, chassis and AC power We simply found that the lack of SNMP management (were told that would change by Tranzeo, and has not) and inability to script management from our servers made them not work in our network. We use Tranzeo links for backhaul and I personally have nothing against them. The HP switch is simply one of multiple spares that we have. Please hit me off list if interested in any of these items. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] trango repairs
I cannot comment about Trango, but we have used them in the past for Alvarion gear. Our results have been a large number returned no repair (which we were not charged for), but a large number of the repaired radios failing after being put back in service. Most of the time for the exact issue they were sent in for. This of course causes a number of issues. First, the actual repair costs are much higher (usually keeps 50% of the radios repaired). Second, you have a frustrated customer with a broken radio. Finally, you have a truck roll to repair. Unfortunately for us at this point we are just discarding radios and writing them off as there does not seem to be a good repair option we have found. This is my personal experiences. Larry Weidig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs I sent them 5 units last month, one 5830 AP 5800 Su and 3 Fox 5800. Over a month later they sent them back to me, none repaired. I am working with another company that is training on the repair, may have another option soon. Victoria Proffer www.stlbroadband.com CEO 314-974-5600 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs Travis, I have never sent him anything to repair for me, but I have sold him lots of the old Alvarion 3mbps stuff from some other ISP buyouts. They seemed to be nice folks and have been at it for a long time. 1-866-439-5469 http://store.ezlinx.net/ Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] trango repairs Hi, Is there anyone doing Trango repairs for a reasonable rate? Trango wants $200 per radio. Thanks, Travis Microserv Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/906 - Release Date: 7/17/2007 6:30 PM Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] 180* sector choices
Mac: We have used both of these with success: http://www.tiltek.com/final/pdfs/TA-2304-4-180-ISM.pdf http://www.tiltek.com/final/pdfs/TA-2304-2-180-ISM.pdf The second one is smaller and only has 12.5 dBi gain, the first one has 15 dBi. Just to be clear I have no association or affiliation with Til-Tek, just have used these on a couple of sites where three sectors (our typical setup as well) was not an option. Hope that helps. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 180* sector choices Does anyone on list have a set of 2.4GHz 180* sector antennas they would like to brag on? I have two towers that need to be sectored out and I am on the hunt. I would like to have as much gain as possible at the antenna. Any suggestions, comments and feed back are greatly appreciated as I have never deployed 180* sectors, but we have always used either Omni's or 3 120* sectors. These towers are just Rohn 25G and I cant seem to get enough separation up top for the 120* sectors. Been there done that and still fighting the issues it causes by mounting the 3 120* sectors too close to one another. Thanks folks, Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Overage plan help
Marlon: The first part is pretty easy, we will just assume a 30 month day: Bytes = 1,000,000 bps * 60 seconds/min * 60 min/hour * 24 hours/day * 30 days / 8 bits/byte = 324,000,000,000 The next part to covert to gigabytes is where people will have disputes. I use 1GB = 1,073,741,824 bytes, but you can see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte for the entire discussion. Therefore in a month of continuous transfer they would move about 301.7 GB! We also charge residential customers for transfer and have the limit set at 4GB which is more than enough for 95%+ of our customers. The other 5% simply get slowed down to dialup rates when they cross the limit by our bandwidth monitor. If they want to pump the speed back up they need to pay for additional transfer which we sell in 4GB blocks at about the same as the monthly cost for the service. This definitely cuts down on the abusers of the system which are of course the hardest on the network. For business customers we just price service accordingly and do not place transfer limits on these accounts. That is just my 2 cents worth, hope it helps. Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:21 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] Overage plan help Hi All, As most of you know, we bill for bits not speed. All of our customers go as fast as we can make them go. They do have to be responsible users though. To this end we had a 1 gig per month transfer limit. When I say gig, I mean it in the sense of what 1mbps service would be. So I guess that's byte not bit. Though I must admit, I get mixed up on the translation from bits per second to bits transferred. Anyhow, using the data we got from that great new usage tracking software that Brandon wrote for us, it's clear that 1 gig won't cut it. (The original 1 gig is the result of figuring out that our average dial-up user in 1999 used 110 meg per month.) Today, I've raised the included service level to 4 gigs. The 5th gig is an extra $5. The next one is $10, then $20, then $40 etc. etc. etc. By the time you hit 25 gigs of data transfer, you're into me for over $5,000,000. Naturally, no one will pay that and they aren't really expected to. However, our billing rate is designed for folks that are spending $35 to $40 per month and doing less than 4 gigs per month. If someone is using a lot of data there are two main issues that I have to recover costs for. One is that I pay for internet access based on usage. So the more the customers use the more I have to pay, and it's up by 15% last month! Next, there is only so much capacity on each tower, if we have heavy users in a particular zone we have to add capacity for them. In the end, what I'm trying to do is either bill or run off the 5% of the customer base that are costing us money instead of generating a profit. Customers like this one http://radius.odessaoffice.com/iptrack/search.php?ip=64.146.146.112mont h=12year=2006period=month they do more than 4 gigs almost every day. I'm looking for two things. One is, if someone had a constant 1 mbps of data transfer rate, how many gigs would they use per month. (we pay for internet based on the mbps rates we consume) Next, what's a more reasonable overage table? Our minimum bill for anything at all here is $5.00 just to cover the costs of writing the bill. I want to keep billing per bit. It's, by far, the most effective way to compete against cable and dsl. It's also a good way to push the hogs over to competing services. Our average user is running at about 1.7 gigs per month. This includes all of my servers and the mail server alone hit 50 gigs last month. So I'll bet that the average user is actually under 1.5 gigs per month. Thoughts and ideas Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments
Well, let me put it simply. The guy running this company is arrogant and not at all interested in helping his customers. I have plenty of correspondence to back that up with their company. Hardware that we used is nothing more than a standard rack server that is overpriced. We used to just buy the software licenses as well, but then they stopped selling that for anything over 10Mbps which pretty much rules out us using that. We finally decided after enough degrading comments from the owner to develop a solution in house using open source and custom code. It took about 2 weeks and we have a solution very similar that is tailored for our needs. No matter how may pro's anybody cares to stack up for their products the CON outweighs them all! Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:46 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] ETINC - Thoughts / Comments Wanted to get people's opinion of ETINC It's been some time since Dennis has publically flogged anyone ducking but curious about product performance / comparisons / pros / cons / etc -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!!
And this will come with the same 74% of MSRP as the CPE radios correct :) What about the cost to then upgrade it to a full blown base station? Since this is the stand alone is that cost without antenna? Details, details we all want details. Thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! I'm guessing Patrick went over the 25 user stand alone base station that will retail for $2,595. This will be an upgradeable version that you can start a POP with, recover some costs, then upgrade when the time comes and you get close to the 25 subscriber attachments. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Sorry, I have not responded sooner guy, but I kept missing opportunities to connect to the Internet. The reason I did not post details on the List, is that the pricing and program is a deal designed and offered ONLY to WISPs, and I was not sure what part of it was suppsoed to be confidential or Open to disclose. The program is for the existing VL product line, the one you always wanted to buy, but thought you could never afford. There are volume commits involved, but they are VERY minimal. The Plan is not just about pricing, it also includes additonal support for WISPs via online content and such. When you learn about it, you will see why I was so excited. This program is something that never could have happened without someone like Patrick Leary behind it, who fully understands the needs of WISPs, and went to bat for us. What I liked about the program is that it came from the principle of how can they help us, help ourselves as a group, and ultimately reach higher volume of product deployment (For mutual benefit). Understand that this is Best of Breed product, at the top of the pyramid, so sod course set realistic expectations that their is no justification for the program to compete against $99 CB3 boxes. But it now allows a WISP to make decisions based on whether the features and design of the product is the best product for the job, rather than having to make selection based on price. It allows a WISP to step up their operations a couple notches, and puts FCC certified / carrier class gear within their reach. Disclaimer: The fact that I am impressed by the Alvarion program, and without a doubt will be participating in this program personally, does not take away the value that other manufacturer's products may also deliver. But I now can make my decissions based on the merit of the individual product lines, for the appropriate locations. Alvarion is not the appropriate product for all my needs, but I know where I do need it, and I've been waiting for this day for that opportunity. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:14 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Ok, then put is on the paid member list, or tell me offlist. :) The suspense is killing me. :) Brian Rick Smith wrote: yeah, tom, don't post a book, but give us details. I'm sure Patrick will be chiming in on this one. I love Alvarion gear. Just can't afford it. Mikrotik's just as good, if not better at some things, but sometimes I'd just love a DS11 backhaul everywhere...or bigger. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! No details on the website... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Alvarion is Back!!! Those who were not there, (WISPA meeting), some extremely exciting news was released by Alvarion. The details of the Comnet program. Clearly the most exciting news from the show. I can't even begin to communicate the impression that it made. There could not have been a stronger message that they want WISPs as their customer. A WISP will NEVER again use the excuse that they can not afford Alvarion. Since this is a public list, I'll leave the details, for WISPs to discover when checking out the program. But I will hint by saying, it enables Alvarion for residential. Its a pretty hard sell, NOT to switch. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop
Marlon: That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell. Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point, hopefully that will change in the near future. I think what you are looking for is: http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42products_id=297 Hope that helps. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop I really don't want something like that. I want either a radio that fits the slot or a usb radio Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47keywords=usb%20to%20pcm ciamatch=3search=searchgclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus shipping. Just went through this for a customer. Cheaper isn't always better :)~ Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of ours needed to use their aircards. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:39 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] ot? New pc card slot in laptop Hi All, I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts. Some kind of hard drive error. So I have a new one here now. It's a cheapo Dell. Has no firewire but I can live with that, don't use it anyway. It also has no PCMCIA slot! It's got a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the slot are all wrong. I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to and get actual dB data from various antennas. Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this work? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Switch Recomendation
We have been real happy with the HP ProCurve series of switches. The 2512 would probably do what you are looking for. Fully managed, qos, 4.8 mpps and lifetime warranty. Hope that helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Switch Recomendation I need a recommendation for a 12 port switch that handles a high amount of packet per second and has qos for voip. Cost isn't an issue. Anyone have a suggestion? Thanks George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ground wire
I was just curious for residential installations what size ground wire people are using? We have been using all #8 but with the sky rocketing costs of this have been considering #10 instead. This is used between our Polyphaser and the house ground system. * Larry A. Weidig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] TRANGO!!
I second, third this motion and have contacted Trango regarding this. I have some towers where six AP's is fine, but I have a lot more smaller locations where it is hard to justify 6 of them for a site. I certainly hope this changes so we can deploy these in smaller areas. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO!! That is too bad Since my biggest tower has less than 30 users, putting 6 $1000 ap's on one tower just doesn't make sense On the other hand, putting 3 AP's with 120deg antennas on a tower is something I can justify. (just in case some one is listening) Travis Johnson wrote: No, they do not. I've asked for that exact thing since 2001 and original 5800 AP's. I've heard there may be something coming however... ;) Travis Microserv Blair Davis wrote: Anyone know if the Trango 5.8GHz ap's have an external antenna connection? out here, 60deg sectors on an ap are a bit small -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] TRANGO!!
Go to the web site, $149 CPE. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:12 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] TRANGO!! Have they produced a product that can pass 1Gbps full-duplex with a -92 signal in a NLOS environment? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2006 19:01 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] TRANGO!! Come on... they are lowering prices? Atlas will be $100 for cpe? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRANGO!! Whooa - - I got a phone call yesterday from Trango that made me smile all over! Guys and Gals - - - -- hang on as we are about to enter the Twilight Zone!! Trango has some news that is gonna make all of us smile deep, long and wide!!! I am not at liberty to disclose the info - - but they will in a day or two from what I understand. Man its gonna be G R E A T!! giggling like a little girl Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4227 318.303.4229 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release Date: 01/16/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release Date: 01/16/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release Date: 13/01/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release Date: 13/01/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!
While pretty much (ok 100%) a lurker on the list, I do see this as a significant issue and have filed a comment as well. Thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU! If you are on other lists please forward this message to every unlicensed list you know of so we get 100% of this industry to do this PLEASE! This will take about 5 minutes of your time and it may make history for our industry. The FCC has had an open Notice of Proposed Rulemaking called 04-186 - Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands. They have tried to stall this proceeding out because the NAB - National Association of Broadcasters does not want anyone to use TV channels but them. In fact the NAB has even stooped to putting out propaganda in the form of a video docu-drama portrayal of a Grandma who cannot watch TV because the evil unlicensed operators were messing up her TV reception with their demonic unlicensed broadband operations (ok I embellished a bit). Here is the deal. If we lose this fight it is not going to be over a lame video showing a grandma losing her TV stations from our efforts. I am gonna kick some NAB ass before I let that happen. GO RIGHT NOW TO: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi A from will appear magically in your web browser. Fill in the blanks with your contact information. Use the guide below for specific lines to help you with items you may not know how to fill in correctly. 1) Where it says Proceeding type in 04-186 2) For the Mail Correspondence to line click on Name. 4) and 5) Leave Blank 11) Check Late Filed check box. 12) Select the drop down for Statement for the Record The other lines not listed above are things like your name which I will assume you guys have covered. :-) Then type your comments about why you need those TV channels for broadband. Give good reasons and do not argue with the FCC. Just tell them why you need the channels. Use good grammar, use correct spelling, be as good a writer as you can even if it is only one sentence. I want to see 500 comments from the WISP industry on this NPRM over the next 5 days. Let's bury them in so many comments in support of this NPRM that the FCC cannot deny us this ruling. Here are some thoughts that may help motivate you to do this right now: How would you like to serve up broadband that operates in 100% of the proposed theoretical coverage area around your AP with no significant line of sight issues? How would you like to use common off the shelf cable modem type devices with minor modifications as CPE for these new magical APs? Then pay attention and do what I ask right now and do not try to micro-manage this effort. Just speak up right now! Today! Not tomorrow! We need solidarity on this one. Let's get it right and get the message out loud and clear right now. Be prepared to hear negative comments about what I am proposing from WiMAX interests because they do not support all of what I am asking. We are not WiMAX radio builders. We are WISPs and we need TV channels right away before Uncle Sam pays billions to the RBOCs to circumvent what we are doing. This is the FCC plan if you do not act fast. The 120 day VOIP 911 order was a clear message that WISPs are not going to have a level playing field in this current FCC administration in many cases. It is time for us to demand what we need to build our industry. Auctioning off the TV channels is not acceptable to us. The FCC needs to hear it many many times if we are to have a chance at this effort. We need those TV channels offered up under the FCC 04-186 NPRM. Support it and let the FCC know why you support it. Tell them about your people who cannot get signal. Tell them about the unacceptable number of towers it takes to cover a few blocks in a heavily treed area using higher frequencies. Tell them how we could maintain higher density modulation schemes without fallback if the signal to noise ratios were more stable as we will have with TV channels. Tell them how spectrum is getting tight because of the massive growth of wireless broadband in your markets and about how unlicensed use of unused television channels will help this. Tell them we will prove that Grandma will never lose her TV signal with our systems regardless of the NAB Sky is falling mentality. Tell them this NOW!. We are going to get 04-186 passed right now or we are going to force the FCC to go ahead and rule against us now while we are the people who brought communications online in gulf affected areas. We have the highest level of political equity we have ever had and I plan to use it while we can. It may well be our only chance to get this spectrum and we disparately need THIS SPECTRUM NOW. When you submit your FCC Statement for the Record
