Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

2019-11-19 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
What fraction of a T1 is it? On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:02 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > I have a 42RU size Harris/Stratex 11 GHz PTP radio that consumes 900W of > power if anyone wants it. > > :-) > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:51 PM Daniel White wrote: > >> I love SAF and probably always will.

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

2019-11-19 Thread Jason McKemie
I keep going back and forth on Aviat or Bridgewave Navigator. On Tuesday, November 19, 2019, Steve Jones wrote: > What do you old hippie degenerates know about these folks? I did a dot I > cross T on SAF vs Cambium gear post so I could keep getting my SAF gear and > this Aviat fella pissed on

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

2019-11-19 Thread Robert
Ugh, well, I wish Aviat would let me create an account without "Someone Getting Back to me"...   Score one for Siklu.. On 11/19/19 8:51 PM, Daniel White wrote: I love SAF and probably always will.  Lots of great memories working there. Steve I think I was even part of helping convince you on

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Steve Jones
tell Powercode this On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 11:07 PM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Darin and Steve, > > I completely agree that off-peak usage should be free and peak usage > should pay more. I keep looking at my bandwidth graphs and see all this > time from midnight-noon-6pm that my fiber is

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Darin and Steve, I completely agree that off-peak usage should be free and peak usage should pay more. I keep looking at my bandwidth graphs and see all this time from midnight-noon-6pm that my fiber is basically sitting under-utilized yet i am paying for full utilization 24/7/365. Not to mention

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

2019-11-19 Thread Steve Jones
Yep, youre the guy, youre salesmanship is why your word is solid gold to me, literally made a make or break decision in our company. im under an NDA, but that link you sold us made us a very substantial amount of dough cause you sold us on the right solution when we tried to cheap out, like a

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

2019-11-19 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I have a 42RU size Harris/Stratex 11 GHz PTP radio that consumes 900W of power if anyone wants it. :-) On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:51 PM Daniel White wrote: > I love SAF and probably always will. Lots of great memories working > there. Steve I think I was even part of helping convince you on

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

2019-11-19 Thread Daniel White
I love SAF and probably always will.  Lots of great memories working there.  Steve I think I was even part of helping convince you on that first SAF link ;-) With that said, Ken is the real deal and Aviat has really come out swinging.  This is the old Harris-Stratex for those that deployed

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Steve Jones
I forwarded your plotting to the boss, I really think there is something to it. We (industry) always look at "off peak" as overnight, rather than literal off peak, because of the morning peak. but I really think youre onto something golden On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:03 PM Darin Steffl wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

2019-11-19 Thread Steve Jones
Thats the motherfucker, kens his name. Its funny you guys mention the GUI, thats about the only thing Im questioning on the gear right now. usually my sales communications is a whole bunch of back and forth digging into what the gear actually does, a couple emails in and im basically asking him,

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers Kurt, We never automatically charged for the overages over $X.  Can't even remember what $X was.  Seem like every month we were chasing more and more people down to get the extra payment.  Just got to the point we

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Darin Steffl
Steve, We haven't implemented it yet but we're going to in January. We will only slow down after reaching X amount of data per plan tier. We'll never charge extra though as people hate unpredictable bills. They can choose to upgrade to a plan with more high speed data during peak or learn to use

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

2019-11-19 Thread Darin Steffl
I just did a demo today with Ken of their radio GUI, link design tool, and pricing on their site. The wtm4000 series looks pretty slick and pricing is affordable for carrier grade stuff. He said they're all made in America and tech support is here too. They're the #1 in volume of coordinated

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

2019-11-19 Thread Adair Winter
Our Aviat 4200 has been solid. Very nice GUI and nice ordering direct. On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 9:48 PM Steve Jones wrote: > What do you old hippie degenerates know about these folks? I did a dot I > cross T on SAF vs Cambium gear post so I could keep getting my SAF gear and > this Aviat fella

[AFMUG] Aviat

2019-11-19 Thread Steve Jones
What do you old hippie degenerates know about these folks? I did a dot I cross T on SAF vs Cambium gear post so I could keep getting my SAF gear and this Aviat fella pissed on my parade. This is an old reliable company, normally outside WISPs grasps offering some hella competitive pricing. I dont

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Steve Jones
Darin, this is a pretty fresh concept. Never looked at it from this perspective. I assume you would have a base X rate. with Free for all time outside the peak use times (I assume you would advertise this time frame, and have a contractual way of adjusting it) Average the use during peak time? and

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Steve Jones
Ha! what happened to that guy? I suspect somebodys husband offed him. We have found our market, and our mindset supports self control,half our customers are Apostolic Christians. We have tiered service, we define the tier, your speed is determined by alot of factors, POP capacity, equipment

Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds

2019-11-19 Thread Steve Jones
ps On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 7:51 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > I am getting better at resisting such intrusive thoughts. > > *From:* can...@believewireless.net > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 19, 2019 2:28 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds > >

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Mark, Can you elaborate on how it did not scale well and got out of hand? I would think the UBB would scale better? On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 6:35 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > Kurt, > > We used to do UBB on our wireless system. Most people were fine with it. > Had a few grumpy people

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown
Doug Clark... From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 3:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers Is anyone else doing Usage Based Billing? Or Peak UBB? We have noticed in the last 6 months huge

Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds

2019-11-19 Thread Chuck McCown
I am getting better at resisting such intrusive thoughts. From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 2:28 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds Really, Chuck? I figured you'd have grabbed some angle iron, a couple worm screws

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Darin Steffl
Kurt, I touched in this in the other email thread but we are moving towards having high speed data thresholds that only count data from noon to midnight. It's targeting exactly the heavy use periods. We may tweak it to only count from 6pm to 11pm but the data amounts would have to be lower then.

[AFMUG] FCC's Pai Aims To Sell C-Band Licenses Through Public Auction

2019-11-19 Thread Tim Hardy
https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-360855A8.pdf -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
The mobile guys also limit video resolution, I don’t know how they do it from a technical perspective, but for example AT has 3 “unlimited” plans – Starter, Extra and Elite. They say Starter and Elite limit streaming to standard def, and only Elite can stream in high def. It also seems

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers Kurt, We used to do UBB on our wireless system.  Most people were fine with it.  Had a few grumpy people as always.  Didn't scale well, got out of hand rapidly as customer base grew.   Currently on our fiber system

[AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Is anyone else doing Usage Based Billing? Or Peak UBB? We have noticed in the last 6 months huge exponential increases of streaming adoption especially between 6pm-midnight. Its almost getting unmanageable and we are even using a Procera device. Problem is >50% of all traffic after 6pm is

Re: [AFMUG] tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Trey Scarborough
You haven't been using the right amps... Ive seen fiber burn a hole through a solid wood door. On 11/19/2019 10:42 AM, Steve Jones wrote: At least fiber cant start forrest fires -- Trey Scarborough VP Engineering 3DS Communications LLC p:9729741539 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Herbert Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 11:59 AM Bill Prince wrote: > I've often wondered what the "H" stands for. > > I presume it's Harold from the Lord's prayer (Our Father who art in > heaven, Harold be

Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds

2019-11-19 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Really, Chuck? I figured you'd have grabbed some angle iron, a couple worm screws and motors and have this hammered out in a couple hours. On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 4:26 PM Steve Jones wrote: > this would seem a better mccown tech solution than Sleep Number > > Whats she want, and what makes her

Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds

2019-11-19 Thread Steve Jones
this would seem a better mccown tech solution than Sleep Number Whats she want, and what makes her comfortable? Work with a chiropractor on sourcing a custom sleep support rather than an off the shelf item that will kinda make her feel better. Id bet youll find a custom fit isnt going to be that

Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds

2019-11-19 Thread chuck
Mechanized to you can tilt it up etc. She likes to mostly lie down to watch TV. I gotta be sitting up. That generally means I am somewhere else. We have had a dual recliner for years that recently made wood crackling sounds and now does not work properly on one side. The ads for these

Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds

2019-11-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
So you're not talking about adjustable firmness like Sleep Number, but raise or lower head, knees, feet, etc. like a hospital bed? Wow, I'd be scared to commit to one without actually being able to try one out. Not just 10 minutes in the store, actually sleep on it for a week. Like paint, you

Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds

2019-11-19 Thread Adam Moffett
These days you stuff it with 100 dollar bills.  More crinkly than feathers, but mad gangsta. On 11/19/2019 3:03 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I fall in to youtube hell on a regular basis. Cat videos, especially catnip intoxication are fun indeed. I slept on a huge sack of feathers as a kid.  Was

Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds

2019-11-19 Thread chuck
I fall in to youtube hell on a regular basis. Cat videos, especially catnip intoxication are fun indeed. I slept on a huge sack of feathers as a kid. Was not much fun. Neither was the outhouse up the hill out the back door. Or scooping the dead rats, mice and squirrels off the top of the

Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds

2019-11-19 Thread Adam Moffett
We're not that far removed from a time when people made their own mattresses by sewing a cloth sack and stuffing it with something. Might be easier on the billfold. A gathered end hammock is $30.  Just need a couple steel rings on the wall to hang it on.  Adjust your back by adjusting your

[AFMUG] OT adjustable beds

2019-11-19 Thread chuck
Howz this for off topic... My wife is pushing to get one of those beds where each side has motorized positions etc. She is a bit crippled and always has been. Severe scoliosis that was partially treated by full spinal decompression, 14 lag screws and herrington rods about 20 years ago. So,

Re: [AFMUG] 650 / 670 dual polarity

2019-11-19 Thread chuck
I agree and generally use polarization. Polarity is for batteries, polarization is for wave phenomena. It is cold here too, bored out of my gourd as my guys are more productive if I don’t hover or visit the job sites. I think I will go put a scope on a Rycom underground locator transmitter

Re: [AFMUG] 650 / 670 dual polarity

2019-11-19 Thread Tim Hardy
So, I’m retired - its a cold day so no golf. Something drummed into my feeble brain from Freshman year of EE back in ought one - when discussing antennas or signals the correct term is polarization not polarity. Here’s a pretty good explanation for what its worth:

Re: [AFMUG] tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Bill Prince
I've often wondered what the "H" stands for. I presume it's Harold from the Lord's prayer (Our Father who art in heaven, Harold be thy name), but I'm no scholar. bp On 11/19/2019 8:42 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Jesus H

Re: [AFMUG] tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Steve Jones
Jesus H Christ, we have major bridges that you can look though the road deck to the water below, and they want those same people to build and maintain a fiber infrastructure we rely on? At least fiber cant start forrest fires On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:30 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Not a customer, I

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik L2TP and Firewalling

2019-11-19 Thread Adam Moffett
I'd assume the VPN server is assigning addresses from a pool. Allowing access from that whole pool would be the simplest thing to do. On 11/18/2019 10:34 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Yeah, I didn't give much information there.  I did try out your first theory and it seems to have been correct.

Re: [AFMUG] tired of entitled streamers

2019-11-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Not a customer, I can’t reach them. Probably nobody can, other than mobile or satellite. Or maybe the govt will get them free fiber by taxing Google and Apple, like the Labour Party is promising in the UK. Vermin Supreme needs to update his campaign promises, free ponies are so dated,

Re: [AFMUG] Connectivity for console server

2019-11-19 Thread Josh Baird
We use Airconsole which doesn't require inbound connectivity. It comes with a server that you can run in AWS that the local AirConsole talks outbound to. For connectivity, we use a Cradlepoint with a cheap Verizon data plan. Works great, although support for Airconsole is terrible.. but it's

Re: [AFMUG] Connectivity for console server

2019-11-19 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Hologram.io will obviously be your lowest cost option. Why not have it VPN into another location? You can then give it a public there or reach it via your internal network. On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 5:33 AM TJ Trout wrote: > What is everyone using for out of band connectivity for console servers

[AFMUG] Connectivity for console server

2019-11-19 Thread TJ Trout
What is everyone using for out of band connectivity for console servers etc? I'm considering dsl $30 or hologram.io using their nat tunneling client... Has anyone figured out a good cellular connection that has static IP or inbound access? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com