Re: [AFMUG] Multiple carriers

2020-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
I like the curling analogy.  No perfect load balancing across the Internet. You can advertise the supernet out of all carriers and also advertise individual /24's out of the preferred carrier.  BGP will use the longer subnet mask first and fallback to the supernet.  If you have a bunch of

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple carriers

2020-11-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/12/20 3:44 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: I have a situation where I can buy several 1 gigabit pipes from several top tier carriers relatively inexpensively. Or I can buy one fat pipe from one carrier. Say I need 4 gigabits of bandwidth and have four 1 gigabit pipes from 4 carriers running BGP,

Re: [AFMUG] new C.O.D.

2020-11-12 Thread Steve Jones
im dreading this holiday season On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 6:16 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Yes. Came out today. 186 gigabytes in size. Resicukous. > > On Nov 12, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > > Did it release already? I’ve had my first request to up

Re: [AFMUG] new C.O.D.

2020-11-12 Thread Matt Hoppes
Yes. Came out today. 186 gigabytes in size. Resicukous. > On Nov 12, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > Did it release already? I’ve had my first request to up a customer’s speed > tier and they are maxed out all day. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple carriers

2020-11-12 Thread Matt Hoppes
Right. Which is not ideal. > On Nov 12, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > There are smarter people than me here on the topic of BGP, but I believe > load balancing via prepends is an inexact science. It's like the guy with > the broom in curling, you can influence but not dictate the

[AFMUG] new C.O.D.

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Did it release already? I've had my first request to up a customer's speed tier and they are maxed out all day. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Multiple carriers

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
There are smarter people than me here on the topic of BGP, but I believe load balancing via prepends is an inexact science. It's like the guy with the broom in curling, you can influence but not dictate the outcome. You'd probably have better control advertising each subnet via just one of the

[AFMUG] Multiple carriers

2020-11-12 Thread Matt Hoppes
I have a situation where I can buy several 1 gigabit pipes from several top tier carriers relatively inexpensively. Or I can buy one fat pipe from one carrier. Say I need 4 gigabits of bandwidth and have four 1 gigabit pipes from 4 carriers running BGP, is there a best way to load balance

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Lots of Irish and Germans in Mexico still. My cousin Jose Andres' best friend is Charles Dickens!! From Chihuahua... Blonde blue eyes...like 75% of my family from Mexico...we have Finnish DNA On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 2:12 PM Cameron Crum wrote: > Yes, and my Mom has commissioned a couple pieces

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Cameron Crum
Yes, and my Mom has commissioned a couple pieces from him. Cameron On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 2:58 PM wrote: > Quite an artist I see. I really like his stuff. Do you own any originals? > > *From:* Cameron Crum > *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2020 1:51 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread chuck
Quite an artist I see. I really like his stuff. Do you own any originals? From: Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 1:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team Must have been some Irish in there somewhere. My wife's

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Cameron Crum
Must have been some Irish in there somewhere. My wife's fraternal grandparents were from Mexico, but had a last name of Kelley. They immigrated to Wyoming sometime in the 20's or 30's. Her grandmother spoke little english. Big family, 13 kids and her father was the youngest. My wife is half of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-12 Thread Steve Jones
dont bother, liberals will find a single negative outcome and say somethings not effective, dont even try to explain it On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 2:43 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > "Effective" seems to have a very fluid definition, based on one's > perception of the political ideology of the one using

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-12 Thread Mike Hammett
"Effective" seems to have a very fluid definition, based on one's perception of the political ideology of the one using the term. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jaime Solorza"

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Not proven effective... On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 7:44 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Now I feel like you invited me to deny it. > > A whole string of countries > approved use of > Remdesivir for Covid19 within a few months time period in the spring of >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Smart and easy on the eyes... On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 8:28 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > They all look very smart to me. > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 8:34 AM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> From last night's news...lol >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >>

[AFMUG] OT: The Pfizer vaccine

2020-11-12 Thread Bill Prince
Pfizer's stock jumped when they announced their vaccine, but after listening to this podcast, I have my doubts about how effective it will be in actual use. There are a couple of really big caveats with it, the first being that it needs to be stored at around

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium CBRS setup

2020-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Sounds like the billing contact on Cnmaestro... Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 2:02 PM Eric Nielsen wrote: > That sounds like a Cambium setting. Ultimately when you have a direct > CommScope SAS

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-12 Thread Jason McKemie
Absolutely nothing. On Wednesday, November 11, 2020, Chuck Macenski wrote: > If Trump were trying to undermine the United States, what would he be > doing differently? > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 8:14 PM Robert wrote: > >> Having the DOJ chase down military people who vote out of state for

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Lewis Bergman
I wasn't trying to say genetic. I guess that is why I said Hispanic, which to me is cultural/genetic On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 11:25 AM Bill Prince wrote: > Things like honesty and work ethic are probably more cultural than genetic. > > My Dad was very dark complected. When he was stationed in

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium CBRS setup

2020-11-12 Thread Eric Nielsen
That sounds like a Cambium setting. Ultimately when you have a direct CommScope SAS account you'd be able to change your SAS contact/info as desired, so I don't see why that wouldn't be the case through Cambium. But it might be best to confirm with them. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Steve

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread chuck
I think I am more biased by how people speak. Sounding like Louisiana will cause me to judge one way, sounding like Connecticut another way and urban Baltimore a third. A black man with a British accent will pass unnoticed when passing on the sidewalk downtown in a large city at night. A

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Good article on it, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Mexicans is the same thing all over America, depending on the degree that the European colonizers mixed with the local natives and also how many slaves they brought. And to certain degree how many European migration waves came in the late

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Steve Jones
we have always had a lot of mexicans here, growing up they were all pretty brown, at least my friends and their families were. but now it seems those in media and whatnot are much paler. I dont know if different regions immigrate more now, or theres more mixed race folks identifying as mexican or

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Well, Mexico is a very diverse country with diverse heritage, but the majority of the population is composed of Spanish and Native roots. So you can have a very white mexican with lots of European/Spanish DNA and others with more native dna.. Spain and Portigal were the fisrt colonizers of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread chuck
I get dark when working in the sun, very dark. I have a son that does too. We have been thought of as Native American or Latino at times. We do have some NA blood but very little. When I was first married I used to have a game where I would walk around public spaces speaking my pidgin

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Bill Prince
Things like honesty and work ethic are probably more cultural than genetic. My Dad was very dark complected. When he was stationed in Trinidad the guys in his unit commented he was darker than the natives. AFAIK, all his ancestors came mostly from Germany.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Lewis Bergman
I think so. Except they are generally more honest and work harder. You may not know many hispanics but I find it nearly impossible to tell the difference between an older hispanic man or woman and a "white" man or woman. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 10:43 AM Steve Jones wrote: > I was told the other

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Steve Jones
I was told the other day that mexicans are caucasian. I dont think thats the truth, but I dont know. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:28 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > They all look very smart to me. > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 8:34 AM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> From last night's news...lol >> -- >> AF

[AFMUG] Cambium CBRS setup

2020-11-12 Thread Steve Jones
Anybody else using commscope sas? Im getting outs set up and its asking about the sas contact. Is this a permanent account setup with commscope where I would want to use a generic company email (admin@, support@, etc) or one that can be changed where I can use my personal company email? -- AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-12 Thread Steve Jones
Now, take your timeframes on authorization in other nations vs US historically on other medications of this nature. Its amazing what you get when you dont spend years authorizing things it ws october, not may btw On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 8:44 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Now I feel like you invited

[AFMUG] OT SIP trunking

2020-11-12 Thread chuck
We had a security breach in our asterisk. One of the extensions did not have a password. Our sip trunk provider noticed it and shut it off. We fixed the hole and asked them to turn it back on. But it never came back. They verified our IP and rebuilt the trunk from scratch and still no

[AFMUG] Fw: SIP trunking

2020-11-12 Thread chuck
This is the latest advice from the SIP provider. From: Hector R Galaviz Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 8:32 AM To: Frank McCown Cc: Chuck McCown ; Frank McCown Subject: Re: SIP trunking Your settings look ok. Try removing the register string, you don't have to register against the SIP

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, good explanation. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of John Seaman via AF Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:28 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: John Seaman Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio It's not well known, but the

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
I thought that too (although this link has been up for 2 years). But I tried one of Chuck's gigabit POEs with a dedicated 150W 48V power supply and it still happened. I have seen that behavior on an 820S on a fairly long Cat5 cable with one of Cambium's 65W AC POE's. I think part of the

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread John Seaman via AF
Correct. Why Cambium decided to call the MIMO model ESX instead of ESM, I’m not sure, because to me, “X” sounds like XPIC. But, I guess it’s because that port could also be used for the space diversity application. As for MC-ABC (layer 1 aggregation within the radio), that works the same on

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Thanks, I was TOTALLY confused by the ESS and ESX nomenclature. So it’s about the 3 data ports and E=Ethernet, S=SFP and X=link to another radio? I am actually using MC-ABC on this link and just the first Ethernet port. It’s a long link and we just limit the modulation so the aggregate

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread John Seaman via AF
It's not well known, but the 820c supports 4x4 MIMO. Two 820c radios, vertically separated on separate antennas, can transmit/receive on the same channel pairs. You are correct that a single 820c radio, on its own does MIMO. In this case it's 2x2 MIMO aka XPIC. The reason we switched the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Lewis Bergman
They all look very smart to me. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 8:34 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > From last night's news...lol > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- Lewis Bergman 325-439-0533 Cell -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Wouldn't non-MIMO be the 820S? I have plenty of spares of the 15/16 versions, just never bought a spare for the 55/56 dual core because I only have the one link. I'm not following what a non-MIMO version would be for a dual core radio, are you talking about dual channel same polarization or

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread John Seaman via AF
The 55As at Winncom may already be allocated to other orders. Unless you need MIMO functionality or space diversity, you can go with the more standard stocking SKU C110082L027A PTP 820C Radio 11WGHz,TR500,Ch7W13,Hi,11425-11725MHz ESS It's the same exact radio as 55A except for the third

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Caleb Knauer
Should be C110082L027 and they should be compatible. Only difference is this is non-mimo and the 55 you have is mimo. In these, the mimo couldn't use the 2nd sfp for data, it was meant for the mimo connection to another unit. So if doing LAG you couldn't use the 2 fibers. This was the original

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Roland Houin
Try going direct dc to the unit. roland -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 10:02 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio Yeah my bad on that, not enough coffee. They

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Mark over at WAV is telling me that's an old version and there's a new P/N and he's checking if they are compatible. I assume he doesn't mean the PTP850C. I was unaware they had a new version, I only bought these 2 years ago. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Roland Houin
You likely need a larger power supply It's likely rebooting when the second core is activated. We've seen this... Roland -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:59 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] looking

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s a power supply problem. I tried several others with the same results. Actually, I think you can power these with Chuck’s CAT6-POE-APC with the default jumper settings. I have some PTP820S radios powered that way. From: AF On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Erich Kaiser
Ken, This is the correct part # for the PSU you need for the 820C, we just used two of these and they work great. ISP has 23 instock. N82L164A Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 8:59 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Oops,

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Caleb Knauer
Yeah my bad on that, not enough coffee. They are not showing stock for the original one, but they are for the 27 non-mimo unit. ISP Supplies shows the 27 also. WAV shows 15 in stock of the 27 too. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:59 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Oops, so they are not showing stock? > >

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Oops, so they are not showing stock? If I'm seeing correctly, Streakwave has qty=1 in stock, not sure if that's Ohio or Utah. If they have one I can't drive and get it at will call like I would from WAV, but I could overnight it in. I don't have a Winncomm account, not sure I can check stock

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Caleb Knauer
Good catch. C110082L027 is the same thing but NON-MIMO. It's what most are using now. Winncom and ISP show stock on their sites. We're backordered. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:42 AM Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > > That’s the MIMO Version. You can also look for the non MIMO version. There

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Noticias Fox? Oh wait, they’re not blondes. From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 8:33 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team >From last night's news...lol -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Thanks. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 8:39 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio Winncomm site says they have 9 in stock. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:36 AM Ken

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
Now I feel like you invited me to deny it. A whole string of countries approved use of Remdesivir for Covid19 within a few months time period in the spring of 2020.  The US was right in the middle of the pack in May.  I'm glad the FDA approved

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
That’s the MIMO Version. You can also look for the non MIMO version. There are two sets...not sure which one it would be. Lower part of the band, ends in 15/16 Upper part of the band, ends in 27/28 Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Mexican Political Discussion Team

2020-11-12 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Did you even have the sound on? Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Nov 12, 2020, at 8:34 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > >  > From last night's news...lol > <26416> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Caleb Knauer
Wait no I'm blind. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:38 AM Caleb Knauer wrote: > > Winncomm site says they have 9 in stock. > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:36 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > > > Anyone have a spare Cambium P/N C110082B055A on the shelf? That’s an 11 > > GHz 820C and I believe it’s the high

Re: [AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Caleb Knauer
Winncomm site says they have 9 in stock. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:36 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Anyone have a spare Cambium P/N C110082B055A on the shelf? That’s an 11 GHz > 820C and I believe it’s the high side. I’m trying the distributors but I > think people have posted here about 820C

[AFMUG] looking for replacement 11 GHz 820C radio

2020-11-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Anyone have a spare Cambium P/N C110082B055A on the shelf? That's an 11 GHz 820C and I believe it's the high side. I'm trying the distributors but I think people have posted here about 820C supply problems lately so I'm not optimistic. Really strange, we had a power outage and the radio