Re: [AFMUG] Cybermonday

2015-12-02 Thread Paul McCall
When we had this discussion over 6 months ago, a couple of us popped up to say that we guarantee a MIR to every customer on our network. They buy a sustained rate that they know they will get at every moment, and then a burst rate. People buy primarily on the sustained because of what their

Re: [AFMUG] Cybermonday

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Reynolds
So are you trying to say you operate with little to no oversubscription? How many subs do you have, roughly? Is this a rural or urban market? On Dec 2, 2015 8:48 AM, "Paul McCall" wrote: > When we had this discussion over 6 months ago, a couple of us popped up to > say that we

Re: [AFMUG] Expeto

2015-12-02 Thread Bill Prince
Resurrecting an old thread. We recently got a couple of additional emails from this company. They're claiming "cloud-based LTE core", but they make no mention of what hardware this works with. They're also saying that this will run on 3.65 GHz equipment. Has anyone looked into this WRT

Re: [AFMUG] Chuck's first desk

2015-12-02 Thread Bill Prince
I believe it. My parents had an 8-way party line until sometime around 1970. bp On 12/2/2015 8:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: There seems to be a regular supply of cord boards on Ebay, many of them functional. When I was a kid, our telephone service was delivered by

[AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread Chuck McCown
Lately, Bing Ads has been kicking Google Adwords’ butt. And at half the price.

[AFMUG] Chuck's first desk

2015-12-02 Thread Lewis Bergman
https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/more-furniture-collectibles/industrial-furniture/vintage-western-electric-telephone-switchboard/id-f_899397/

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1

2015-12-02 Thread Darren Shea
Aaron, That's great news - thanks for the quick response! -- Darren -Original Message- From: Aaron Schneider [mailto:aaron.schnei...@cambiumnetworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:38 AM To: af@afmug.com; Darren Shea Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Well, I must

Re: [AFMUG] Cybermonday

2015-12-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Every time I have thought about how to explain our burst and sustained model in a way that complies with the new FCC rules, my head has exploded. I finally decided we had to abandon that model and just give the customer a dumb, constant speed pipe. In some cases the various content providers

Re: [AFMUG] Cybermonday

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Isn't that the truth. Everything works perfectly fine but that Speedtest with their iPhone isn't showing them a big fat number. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 2, 2015 10:04 AM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Every

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Way to go Darren for catching the mistake!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Darren Shea wrote: > Aaron, > That's great news - thanks for the quick response! > > -- Darren >

Re: [AFMUG] Chuck's first desk

2015-12-02 Thread Chuck McCown
Got my first private line in 1982. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Chuck's first desk I believe it. My parents had an 8-way party line until sometime around 1970. bp On 12/2/2015 8:10 AM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Chuck's first desk

2015-12-02 Thread Chuck McCown
There seems to be a regular supply of cord boards on Ebay, many of them functional. When I was a kid, our telephone service was delivered by one of these. We didn’t get dial service until June of 1964. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 8:48 AM To: Animal Farm Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Bing Ads != Bing (search) You'll see Bing Ads if you're part of the massive population that uses IE or Edge or part of the website where they put down Bing Ads instead of Google Ads. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 2,

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
First thing I do on new PCs is get rid of Bing...I set Chrome and Google as default.makes my simple mind happy On Dec 2, 2015 9:31 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Lately, Bing Ads has been kicking Google Adwords’ butt. And at half the > price. >

[AFMUG] PMP450 bigger channels?

2015-12-02 Thread Gino Villarini
did i read somewhere that 30 and or 40 mh where coming to the 450 line? specially useful on the 450i ?

Re: [AFMUG] Cybermonday

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Reynolds
As a residential customer, I've never bought guaranteed bandwidth. In fact, one day when I called to complain about the 6Mbps I was able to get OFF PEAK on my 50Mbps cable plan with TWC a few years back, they said they wouldn't even dispatch a tech as long as I could get above 4Mbps. :( On Dec 2,

Re: [AFMUG] Cybermonday

2015-12-02 Thread Darin Steffl
Paul, I'm not sure of any residential offering that actual guarantees bandwidth. It is "up to" just like every other ISP. We tell customers they should usually be very close to what they're paying for but if they get a test at 80% or higher of their speed, they're in line with what they pay for.

Re: [AFMUG] Cybermonday

2015-12-02 Thread Gino Villarini
no idea... but the local cable operator is doing a good job at doing a bad job :-) On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Jon Langeler wrote: > What do you think these customers had before they decided to jump on that > deal? Which BTW is pretty aggressive > > Jon Langeler >

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread Chuck McCown
I do too, but as far as buying clicks, I get more clicks and cheaper clicks from Bing. Same keywords same everything. Lately have seen a large uptick. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:34 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing First thing I do on new PCs

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Bill Prince
wrong. bp On 12/2/2015 10:04 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: If you do 4x 12v 100ah batteries and do 24v it's twice the time as 48v Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 2, 2015 1:01 PM, "Bill Prince"

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
If you do 4x 12v 100ah batteries and do 24v it's twice the time as 48v Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 2, 2015 1:01 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > What voltage? > > bp > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Chuck's first desk

2015-12-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
As you carved as path through a wall of human flesh carrying a canoe behind you Apologies to WC Fields On Dec 2, 2015 10:25 AM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > But I had to walk 3 miles to school. Through the snow. Uphill, both ways. > > bp > > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Chuck's first desk

2015-12-02 Thread Bill Prince
But I had to walk 3 miles to school. Through the snow. Uphill, both ways. bp On 12/2/2015 8:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Got my first private line in 1982. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2015 9:12 AM *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] Chuck's first desk

2015-12-02 Thread chuck
Bus kid, first on, last off. About a 90 minute ride. Once it got stuck in the snow. Driver had me and one other kid walk a couple of miles through snow through a field to a farm house to get help. Driver stayed with the bus and the handful of kids. School principle showed up about an hour

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Do you have a landing page that people go to when they click your ads? I would be interested in where the clicks were coming from, clients, IPs etc. ryan On 12/2/15 8:38 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I do too, but as far as buying clicks, I get more clicks and cheaper clicks from Bing. Same

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1

2015-12-02 Thread George Skorup
Good thing I haven't updated anything yet. :) Can you guys also add 3652.5 and 3697.5 back to the 3.6 default frequencies list? Also, the upstream direction in the filter config used to be on by default and is not now on 14.1.1. Would be nice if it was restored because I'm sure the guys won't

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
A good way to avoid confusion is to convert to convert to watt-hours. I’m assuming when you say 400Ah, you probably have 12V batteries and are adding up the Ah ratings of all the batteries. Like maybe 4 batteries, each 12V and 100Ah. Although there are certainly other common battery voltages

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Mathew Howard
watt-hours stay the same - 200x24 and 100x48 both equal 4800 watt hours. In other words, unless you have some horribly inefficient voltage converters in the mix, it makes little difference. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > wrong. > > bp >

Re: [AFMUG] Cybermonday

2015-12-02 Thread Paul McCall
Mostly urbun areas. I would say we operate with no “overloading”… There obviously has to be certain level of oversubscription, but there is no formula we go by; rather, there is real world usage stats that drive this. I like to think that we are doing is rather simple. We gather stats every

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread chuck
Big Commerce has some stats. It shows some of that. From: D. Ryan Spott Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 10:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Marketing Do you have a landing page that people go to when they click your ads? I would be interested in where the clicks were coming

[AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread TJ Trout
How long will 500w load last on 400ah?

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Chris Fabien
Not enough info provided. 400 AH at what voltage? On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:00 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > How long will 500w load last on 400ah? >

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Bill Prince
If you're talking about 400 ah at 12 volts, then you would have ~~ 9 hours until the batteries are completely exhausted; as in dead. If you want to use them a second or third time or more, then figure about 4-1/2 hours. If you're talking about 400 ah at 24 volts, then double the above

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Adam Moffett
There seem to be different opinions on the appropriate cutoff point for LVD also. I recall a 12V Morningstar solar controller had an 11.2V LVD. On one of the common DIN UPS modules it's 10.9V (Traco I think, though I might be muddling that with a Meanwell spec sheet in my head). That's

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Bill Prince
What voltage? bp On 12/2/2015 10:00 AM, TJ Trout wrote: How long will 500w load last on 400ah?

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5 Cacti template

2015-12-02 Thread Sean Heskett
Awesome! thanks steve!!! I owe ya a beer or two at the next trade show ;-) Thx! -sean On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Steve Utick wrote: > Here is the one that I built. > > http://www.mt.net/~sutick/cacti-mimosa.zip > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Sean Heskett

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Mimosa B5 Cacti template

2015-12-02 Thread Steve Utick
No sweat, glad to help. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > Awesome! thanks steve!!! > > I owe ya a beer or two at the next trade show ;-) > > Thx! > > -sean > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Steve Utick wrote: > >> Here is the one

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Baird
There is a 2.4 version of the Force200 on Cambium's site. There is not a 5ghz version of the Force 200 on the site. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Yes. I wasn't aware there was a 2.4 version until I heard it here, but > maybe I just wasn't paying

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
so how dead does it make the battery for fully discharge, the rhetoric, is run em down, throw them away, is there a rule of thumb for damage? On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > He didn't indicate how the 400 ah were configured. Is it one 12V 400 ah >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi
It was a joke. :) As much as the model/part number doesn’t make sense, it has a very specific format and meaning behind it. We carried it over from the Moto days. Thanks, Sriram Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum On Dec 2, 2015, at

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes. I wasn't aware there was a 2.4 version until I heard it here, but maybe I just wasn't paying attention before. There is definitely a 5 GHz version. Much nicer to assemble. Much. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi
Force 200 in 2.4 GHz is available today. Force 200 in 5 GHz will be available with our distributors late January. Josh - We’ll look into shortening the length of the model/part number to a nice round 20 digits :( Thanks, Sriram Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
The ePMP sync APs die right at 20 volts FYI. In my case I use the regulator as a LVD - it will continue doing 24v until something like 19 or 20v from the batteries. I'd rather lose some batteries than have the site go down. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Bill Prince
He didn't indicate how the 400 ah were configured. Is it one 12V 400 ah battery, or one 24v 400 ah battery, etc. But as you noted, once you convert the battery voltage and amp-hours to watts, it eliminates any confusion. If I had 4800 watt-hours of battery (assuming 12V X 4 at 100 amp-hours),

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Mike Hammett
I ignore anything 2.4 because I consider it useless in my environment. Maybe that's it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman"

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
It exists so hard a Ubnt employee thought it was a NanoBeam XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:53 PM, George Skorup wrote: > It most definitely exists. > > > On 12/2/2015 1:49 PM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread D. Ryan Spott
That was what I was getting at with finding out who these 'customers' were. ryan On 12/2/15 11:55 AM, Jon Auer wrote: Do they seem to be doing anything once they get to the site? Looking at datasheets or something like that? It could be that the Bing Ads platform is just more susceptible to

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh please tell me they're pseudo-random letters and numbers still! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > Force 200 in 2.4 GHz is

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Adam Moffett
Right.a single discharge doesn't automatically destroy them. Some battery vendors publish charts that show the number of expected charge/discharge cycles compared to depth of discharge. There's a dramatic difference in lifespan, but one complete discharge isn't killing you. Another

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Baird
Unless you have a DC-DC converter in line that can take 10v and output regulated 24v. > On Dec 2, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > I don't see that there's really a lot of value in running batteries below > 10.5 volts or so, at that point the voltage is going

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Baird
So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way? I thought it was only 2.4. On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > There is a shortage/lack of Force 110. My reps gave me a heads up a month > ago and I ordered 3 month supply to be safe. > > I've heard the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread George Skorup
It most definitely exists. On 12/2/2015 1:49 PM, Josh Baird wrote: There is a 2.4 version of the Force200 on Cambium's site. There is not a 5ghz version of the Force 200 on the site. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Mike Hammett > wrote: Yes.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Sriram Chaturvedi
Correct! We have a very old but reliable IBM mainframe in our lab that spits out these random numbers on a daily basis. These numbers then get sent to our labelling machine. We just need to reprogram it to keep it to 20 characters! :) Thanks, Sriram Join the Conversation Cambium Networks

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Mathew Howard
Eventually yes, but I was told it won't be available for a few more months - hopefully, that's changed. I think the 2.4ghz Force 200 should be available any day now. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > So, there is a 5ghz Force 200 on it's way? I thought

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Force 200 comes in 2.4 and 5 GHz bands. Yes, the model scheme from Cambium can become even more insane. And you thought it would stop at C0498732975928402580SA9S Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:38 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread Jon Auer
Do they seem to be doing anything once they get to the site? Looking at datasheets or something like that? It could be that the Bing Ads platform is just more susceptible to clickfraud. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I do too, but as far as buying

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have anywhere from 2 to 8 x 100Ah AGM batteries at a bunch of sites. That’s a lot of money. They are not throwaways. It does help somewhat that more expensive batteries tend to survive more discharge cycles. But it seems to me from graphs that once you get down to 11 volts, it declines

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
I can't tell if that's a joke. I'm not sure I even want to know the truth... =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Sriram Chaturvedi < sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > Correct! We have a

Re: [AFMUG] Marketing

2015-12-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Windows 10 is proliferating, everybody is trying Edge. Xbox1 went to w10ish and the web browser is edge now, and much more functional (pornhub dot com) Im guessing this is a bubble Though with edge not supporting plugins, it may dominate when it refines On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:00 PM, D. Ryan

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Sean Heskett
i have run our solar sites down to dead (well, at least low enough voltage that everything shut down) a few times over the years and the batts just keep working. i wouldn't want to do it all the time tho lol it's not really a one and done situation. YMMV On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:56 PM, That

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't see that there's really a lot of value in running batteries below 10.5 volts or so, at that point the voltage is going to be low enough that a lot of radios aren't going to run anyway (for example, ePMPs will die just a little under 22v), which means your going to just be wearing out the

Re: [AFMUG] Expeto

2015-12-02 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Sounds like a Sprint LTE MVNO On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > Resurrecting an old thread. > > We recently got a couple of additional emails from this company. They're > claiming "cloud-based LTE core", but they make no mention of what hardware > this

Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-02 Thread David
Target Practice :) On 12/02/2015 04:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: what are people doing with this stuff when it comes down? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread George Skorup
Three Ruckus APs. We used two for a temporary install in a HS gym with >1000 attendees. Had zero issues. On 12/2/2015 4:53 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: Project to provide public Wi-Fi coverage in a church sanctuary. Occupancy ranges from 300-900; walls are concrete and ceiling is

Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-02 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Submit them to SSI https://youtu.be/Aja7gcgRMJU?t=1m32s for a chance to be featured on YouTube. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 14:33 To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk? what are people doing

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Three ruckus devices. Done. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 2, 2015 5:53 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" wrote: > Project to provide public Wi-Fi coverage in a church sanctuary. Occupancy > ranges from

Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-02 Thread George Skorup
Pushing it out to smaller sites... for now. On 12/2/2015 4:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: what are people doing with this stuff when it comes down? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Mathew Howard
That makes sense, I was losing one at just under 22v, but with voltage drop from the cable, it probably would've been 20v at the radio. I think that's the ideal way to do it, I agree - I want keep running as long as possible, I just don't want to keep draining them once everything is dead, and

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP: Integrated Radio VS Force 180

2015-12-02 Thread David
2.4 seems to be the best option for access standards Of course apple really really wants to be the new standard for wifi :) On 12/02/2015 01:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I ignore anything 2.4 because I consider it useless in my environment. Maybe that's it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

[AFMUG] PTP800 11GHz bands

2015-12-02 Thread Dan Petermann
Is there a document that shows the sub-bands for the 11GHz radios?

Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
You can pull out the guts and use the empty case to hold an inline coupler when you need to splice a cable, especially nice when you need to attach to something like a TV tower. From: David Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4

Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-02 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Give it to me :) Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "George Skorup" To: Subject: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk? Date: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 4:37 PM Pushing it out to smaller sites... for now. On 12/2/2015 4:33 PM, That One

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Adam Moffett
Only peripherally related to this thread, but I tripped across another nice document that talks about the advantages of AGM over flooded and gel. The good part is on pages 10-12. It discusses freezing, stratification, loss of electrolyte and all sorts of other fun stuff that ruins your

Re: [AFMUG] PTP800 11GHz bands

2015-12-02 Thread Hardy, Tim
Here's the 40 MHz bandwidth plan - let me know if you need others 40 MHz CH Q1 J1 1 10735 11225 Band 5 2 10775 11265 Band 5 3 10815 11305 Band 5 4 10855 11345 Band 5 5 10895 11385 Band 6 6 10935 11425

Re: [AFMUG] Expeto

2015-12-02 Thread Patrick Leary
It is an Aricent play. They've made it appear to some that they are working with Telrad. They are not. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid On Dec 2, 2015 11:08 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Resurrecting an old thread. We recently got a couple of additional emails from this company.

[AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
what are people doing with this stuff when it comes down? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread George Skorup
The R700 does beam shaping. A couple dBi, but that's effective enough. I haven't worked with it much, the guys that do say the ZoneDirector isn't required, but you'll be missing out on some of the goodies like auto load balancing and handoff, IIRC. On 12/2/2015 6:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Win 10

2015-12-02 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I upgraded everything but one of my machines to Win 10 earlier this year. I like it a lot better, no problems for me so far on a few tablets, laptops and desktops. The only machine I didn't upgrade yet was a Win 7 Pro running SoftXPand with four stations. SoftXPand hasn't finished their Win 10

[AFMUG] Win 10

2015-12-02 Thread Chuck McCown
So far so good. I like the 30 second cold boot time.

[AFMUG] Can't legally jam phones? Require everyone to put them in a faraday cage with a lock

2015-12-02 Thread Eric Kuhnke
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-dave-chappelle-is-creating-844886 http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/10/i-let-yondr-lock-my-smartphone-in-a-sock-so-i-could-live-in-the-moment/ The lock seems pretty much identical to those magnet based retail anti theft tags. They're taken a neoprene

Re: [AFMUG] PTP800 11GHz bands

2015-12-02 Thread Hardy, Tim
I'll send it in the AM, 30 MHz bw? From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Dan Petermann [d...@wyoming.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 6:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP800 11GHz bands If you have the 6GHz plan it would be

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Eric Muehleisen
+1000 on Ruckus. They are tanks. We have a similar setup and use 2 Ruckus R700's back to a ZD3000. It will load balance the AP and each SSID/Frequency. The max users we've seen between both AP's is 89 users. Handled it without issue. On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
they are going to overlap no matter how much you turn power down. i would try three on 1 6 11 for 2.4GHz and full power on 5GHz radios with three non overlapping channels as well... UniFi ...Ruckus ...Extreme,all good stuff Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Dec

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread George Skorup
Stop saying what I'm saying. Mom, Josh won't quit! On 12/2/2015 4:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Three ruckus devices. Done. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 2, 2015 5:53 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen"

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
ahemonly in prosperity gospel ones...ducking .too easy Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > They have wifi in churches now? Maybe I need to start going again. > > > Scott Vander Dussen

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Thx for the Ruckus recommendation- what’s the magic sauce that allows so many concurrent connections? The ZoneFlex R710 claims up to 500 connections, does any of the new UniFi stuff get anywhere near that? Is a ZoneDirector required for using the APs? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm not touching the Unifi comment... I have 3 in a big hall with thousands of people. I regularly see 350 wireless associations. 0 complaints in like 5 years now? No controller. Mikrotik hotspot. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] PTP800 11GHz bands

2015-12-02 Thread Dan Petermann
If you have the 6GHz plan it would be greatly appreciated! On Dec 2, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Hardy, Tim wrote: > Here's the 40 MHz bandwidth plan - let me know if you need others > > 40 MHz > CHQ1 J1 > 1 10735 11225 Band 5 > 2

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread George Skorup
Well that's lame. My Doug Clark tongue sticking out emoji got ate by Amazon or something. On 12/2/2015 5:08 PM, George Skorup wrote: Stop saying what I'm saying. Mom, Josh won't quit! On 12/2/2015 4:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Three ruckus devices. Done. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Jay Weekley
They have wifi in churches now? Maybe I need to start going again. Scott Vander Dussen wrote: Project to provide public Wi-Fi coverage in a church sanctuary. Occupancy ranges from 300-900; walls are concrete and ceiling is multipath-infused metal. Ideas how to make the best of this?

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Something must be wrong with me. My immediate reaction was you’re in church, get off your phone. From: Scott Vander Dussen Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture) Project to provide public Wi-Fi coverage in a church sanctuary.

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
yepway i think as well Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Something must be wrong with me. My immediate reaction was you’re in > church, get off your phone. > > *From:* Scott Vander Dussen

Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-02 Thread Matt
> what are people doing with this stuff when it comes down? What are you replacing it with by the way?

Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-02 Thread Jaime Solorza
so early Letterman stunt Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote: > Submit them to SSI https://youtu.be/Aja7gcgRMJU?t=1m32s for a chance to > be featured on YouTube. > > > > *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Josh Luthman
[image: Inline image 1] Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:14 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Well that's lame. My Doug Clark tongue sticking out emoji got ate by > Amazon or something. > > On

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Sean Heskett
i don't think i'd do 6 APs, probably just 3 and turn the power way down. UniFi would be my first choice we have UniFi at our local airport that has 6 "gates" (9 access points around the terminal building) and between 11am and 2pm (during ski season) a few thousand devices traverse thru the

Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk?

2015-12-02 Thread Ken Hohhof
Like “will it blend” on steroids. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 5:11 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] what to do with 2.4 fsk? so early Letterman stunt Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Scott Vander Dussen

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Nate Burke
Church is not necessarily always a 'Church' Especially when they have an auditorium like that. Our Local TedX event was at a church auditorum like that. I would expect that throuhgout the week, there are probably meetings and conferences using that space. Why have it sit empty for 6 days a

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture)

2015-12-02 Thread Chuck McCown
And Mormon ones... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 4:31 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi Nightmare (Picture) ahemonly in prosperity gospel ones...ducking .too easy Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating battery bank size

2015-12-02 Thread Chuck McCown
I gave up on LVD. First, especially on solar, I build a large enough batter that it should never get that low. If it does, I want the system to keep working with the hope that the sun will soon be out. And you need to keep your telemetry running even if the batts are low. Ended up

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