Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP+ 10GB

2016-03-01 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Let me see if I can try to clear up some confusion and help in sorting this out. The optics, have TX and RX lasers... The TX will Transmit the Laser, and RX will Receive the Signal. You have the look at the MFG Specs to see what is the TX power and what is the RX sensitivity. Typically you

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP+ 10GB

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck Hogg
Each SFP will have that range in their specifications. Most of the time it will say it under minimum receive power. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:23 AM, George Skorup wrote: > I have a 1Gbps link working fine at -21dBm. About 4 miles using 20km > modules. The

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP+ 10GB

2016-03-01 Thread George Skorup
I have a 1Gbps link working fine at -21dBm. About 4 miles using 20km modules. The next pair, pretty much same distance is at -10dBm. So something is obviously wrong with that first pair or a splice somewhere. These modules (MikroTik's and the FiberStore equivalent) will unlock at about -31.

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Nate Burke
In the city they have antennas on the side of buildings right outside office windows, or facing into the side of another building. Doesn't look like there's any special shielding on them. On 3/1/2016 11:01 PM, George Skorup wrote: Our old tower guy told me that he had a metal taste when he

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy for Inbound DID's

2016-03-01 Thread Nate Burke
If I'm reading into their tickets correctly, they were fighting a DDOS against their gateway IP's. I'm guessing that could happen to anyone except maybe Google. On 3/1/2016 7:55 PM, Keefe John wrote: Go with bandwidth.com . we've never had an outage with them. We have

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread George Skorup
Our old tower guy told me that he had a metal taste when he got near some cell stuff on a site once. Now, you're not getting my fat ass on a tower, but I've been on rooftops with cell stuff (lots of it) and didn't notice anything. I think he was full of shit and just didn't want to climb that

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Jason McKemie
True. It's just obnoxious to be charged more for the exact same item. On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Though SIAE has part101 6, 18 and 23 GHz radios which Mimosa doesn't make. > In a place where all the good 11 GHz is gone, those can be the only other >

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ericsson bringing out some new high bandwidth stuff but I have no idea on price...but heard rep telling someone from Mexico that a new lower price line coming out later this year. On Mar 1, 2016 8:23 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > Though SIAE has part101 6, 18 and 23 GHz

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Jon Langeler
What model RF meter? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Mar 1, 2016, at 9:39 PM, can...@believewireless.net > wrote: > > In my Comtrain class, one of the instructors said that if your eyes start > feeling dry, that is a good indication > you are near high

Re: [AFMUG] people streaming election coverage?

2016-03-01 Thread Mike Hammett
I just found out today that drug use resulted in Jodie Sweetin having quite a rack. Maybe that's resulted in higher than normal Netflix usage? Where do your flows say your traffic is going? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Though SIAE has part101 6, 18 and 23 GHz radios which Mimosa doesn't make. In a place where all the good 11 GHz is gone, those can be the only other options. Their 1024qam 6 GHz alfoplus2 radio is a great price competitor for much higher priced 6 stuff like the trango apex orion. On Mar 1, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP+ 10GB

2016-03-01 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Do you know the approx. route distance? Was otdr shot on that line? Probably was by someone, but can you see if they have record? Or get a local crew to shoot it and tell you the details. Do you remember what the SFP module was reporting? I have a 40km laser link between two CCRs and it should

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy
Real world speed I am getting 300Mbps x 100Mbps (ok, 297x93) shooting 18.3 miles on 3' UBNT Rocket dishes modified for cross pol at 50MHz. This is on 75% duty cycle. I am seeing the same speeds on my 4.7 mile and 7.7 mile link. Those have a 3' rocket dish on one side 2'; on the other. I used

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i was always told your eyes will water could always just keep a hersheys bar in your front pocket like the guy with the radarrange supposedly did On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:39 PM, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > In my Comtrain class, one of the instructors said

[AFMUG] people streaming election coverage?

2016-03-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Or watching Netflix because there's nothing on TV except election coverage? Lots of bandwidth usage for a Tuesday.

[AFMUG] Mikrotik SFP+ 10GB

2016-03-01 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Wondering if anyone has guidance on what is an acceptable receive power level that a CCR will report on an SFP. I currently have an SFP+ module that is reporting a -18. This is a 40KM module...I originally put in a 20KM module and it was reporting a -40. I was getting only a one way link.

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy for Inbound DID's

2016-03-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, has anyone worked with someone like Neutral Tandem or the couple others like them? You're bypassing the legacy PSTN and using a third party tandem service. Obviously that only works for other people on Neutral Tandem, so kind of like peering vs. transit in the IP world, but would provide

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread can...@believewireless.net
In my Comtrain class, one of the instructors said that if your eyes start feeling dry, that is a good indication you are near high power. On a couple FM towers, even with the power turned down, my RF meter will start beeping if I move to the outside of the tower.

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy for Inbound DID's

2016-03-01 Thread Keefe John
Go with bandwidth.com. we've never had an outage with them. We have outages with vitelity all the time. On March 1, 2016 7:17:22 PM CST, Lewis Bergman wrote: >Nope. Your DID's just fall off the map. You could get it straight from >Level3 for a lot more but they are

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Jason McKemie
They look like they're only slightly cheaper (if you get them from the right place) than what I paid for my SIAE link a couple years back. Although now that SIAE has resellers, they've gone up quite a bit. Mimosa is probably what I'm going to use from here on out though... On Mon, Feb 29, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy for Inbound DID's

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Type Mashter...I like it > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:21 PM Josh Luthman > wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy for Inbound DID's

2016-03-01 Thread Lewis Bergman
Type Mashter...I like it On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:21 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Level 3 is a very good origination option I think is what type master was > saying. They are expensive if you just buy onesy twosy, but we wholesaled > from a company that had tons of

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy for Inbound DID's

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Level 3 is a very good origination option I think is what type master was saying. They are expensive if you just buy onesy twosy, but we wholesaled from a company that had tons of DIDs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy for Inbound DID's

2016-03-01 Thread Lewis Bergman
Nope. Your DID's just fall off the map. You could get it straight from Level3 for a lot more but they are have solid VoIP. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:15 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > There isn't that I'm aware of. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Redundancy for Inbound DID's

2016-03-01 Thread Mike Hammett
There isn't that I'm aware of. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 7:08:34 PM Subject:

[AFMUG] Redundancy for Inbound DID's

2016-03-01 Thread Nate Burke
Given the volatility of Voip Innovations over the last 48 hours (multiple 20+minute outage) I know that the boss is going to ask about redundancy tomorrow. There is no way, short of being an I/Clec that you can have redundancy on inbound DID numbers, is there?

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Time to buy an RF suit? Don’t forget the RF socks. http://www.rfsafetysolutions.com/RF%20Radiation%20Pages/RF_Protective_Garments.html From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems Yeah,

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Craig Schmaderer
I am with Chuck. If you have that kind of bandwidth needs than you have the money and need for a license link. Ill use a license link on a 40 custmer tower just so i dont have to ever worry about backhaul issues. My time is valuable and i enjoy my sleep. :) Craig schmaderer Skywave

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Craig Schmaderer
I work by them all the time. I have never felt any warmth so thats good. I tried 4 times to make a baby and had 3 kids so that still works but it worked to well :) Craig schmaderer Skywave Wireless, Inc. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:23 PM -0800, "Christopher Gray"

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Christopher Gray
I have some site owners concerned about the output from my hardware. I've explained how low the power output is on unlicensed hardware, but showing them empirically would be nice. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > What 5ghz gear are you

Re: [AFMUG] Small POE switch

2016-03-01 Thread Chris Wright
The Netonix WS-12-250 will take 12V input and put out 48V like you need. As far as I know it’s the smallest one they make that will take in 12V natively. Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Small POE switch

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Definitely 24 and 48 volts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > I think the netonix is multi-voltage? At lease 48/24. Maybe also 12, but > IDKFS. > > bp >

Re: [AFMUG] Small POE switch

2016-03-01 Thread Bill Prince
I think the netonix is multi-voltage? At lease 48/24. Maybe also 12, but IDKFS. bp On 3/1/2016 4:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I bet you could dissect a small Netonix and replace its interior 120vac to 12vdc power supply with a 12vdc in, 12vdc out dc-dc converter

Re: [AFMUG] Small POE switch

2016-03-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I bet you could dissect a small Netonix and replace its interior 120vac to 12vdc power supply with a 12vdc in, 12vdc out dc-dc converter in the same space. That is, if it's a separate PCB/module. On Mar 1, 2016 3:33 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Needs to be in a very small

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Yeah, but calling that number is always a colo risk. Cell is almost definitely paying a more substantial rent, piss them off they talk to the landlord. we are colocated at a verizon beta testing location, I assume we are getting cooked there and have a meter lined up for next time we go up. Thats

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
The site should have a RF Safety warning sticker somewhere before you enter area by law. On Mar 1, 2016 1:02 PM, "Christopher Gray" wrote: > I'm hoping to do some work in a steeple that has cell phone equipment. I > understand there are currently 6 sectors, and will

Re: [AFMUG] Small POE switch

2016-03-01 Thread George Skorup
Needs to be in a very small enclosure on ILDOT traffic signal poles. I thought Tycon made something, but I'm not finding it. Was planning to do a Mean Well AD55, but then I remembered they don't make a 48v version of the 55. So I'm kinda stuck on what to do. On 3/1/2016 5:20 PM, Lewis Bergman

Re: [AFMUG] Small POE switch

2016-03-01 Thread Lewis Bergman
Planet makes one I think. Or maybe it is 24 volts On Tue, Mar 1, 2016, 5:18 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Netonix perhaps? > On Mar 1, 2016 2:55 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > >> Anyone know of a 802.3af POE switch that will take 12v input and give me >> the

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Jason McKemie
What 5ghz gear are you planning on being around that is going to be high enough output to necessitate a safety meter? On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Christopher Gray wrote: > I supposed a better way to ask: Is it typical to need cellular systems > turned off when working

Re: [AFMUG] Small POE switch

2016-03-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Netonix perhaps? On Mar 1, 2016 2:55 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Anyone know of a 802.3af POE switch that will take 12v input and give me > the required 48v POE output? Two cameras and a Force180, so four ports > would be fine. >

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
North Warning System and DEW line as well, though some of those came later. On Mar 1, 2016 3:16 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > White Alice > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Alice_Communications_System > > There was one in Homer, AK I went poking around in a year or two

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
White Alice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Alice_Communications_System There was one in Homer, AK I went poking around in a year or two ago :) On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > With very early post-ww2 radar installations in Alaska guys would go

Re: [AFMUG] Small POE switch

2016-03-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
None I can think of, there's lots of 802.3af and 802.3at 1U switches with -48vdc power supplies. I suppose one could use a meanwell RSD series 200W rated DCDC converter that will take input of 12 and output 48 to feed a Cisco 3750G or similar. On Mar 1, 2016 2:55 PM, "George Skorup"

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
With very early post-ww2 radar installations in Alaska guys would go out and stand in front of the dish to get warm On Mar 1, 2016 2:21 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > A quick and dirty method is whether or not you can feel warmth or heat. > If so you may be getting damaged. I

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Christopher Gray
I supposed a better way to ask: Is it typical to need cellular systems turned off when working behind the sectors, above / below them, or in front of them? I'm looking for some general experiences so I can plan my possible installation and have a sense of what to expect. I do not intend to use

[AFMUG] Small POE switch

2016-03-01 Thread George Skorup
Anyone know of a 802.3af POE switch that will take 12v input and give me the required 48v POE output? Two cameras and a Force180, so four ports would be fine.

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
I have had cataract surgery on right eye a few years back and will need it on left in next few monthshum...my pop was 74 and still had great vision and mum only wears reading glasses and she is 86..maybe its true... Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, Mar 1,

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck McCown
A quick and dirty method is whether or not you can feel warmth or heat. If so you may be getting damaged. I feels like a heat lamp. If you feel any warmth from the antennas come back down. It isn’t an emergency your are going to die go to the ER type of thing, but certain parts of your

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage powerinjector withredundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Peter Kranz
Do you want surge suppressors on each circuit? I personally do not require surge suppressors, I’ve always assumed the surge suppression should be outside the shack, not in the rack. Do you want individually replaceable circuits or all on one board? Assuming the board is designed not to

Re: [AFMUG] racmount kit for Packetflux SyncInjector?

2016-03-01 Thread David
I use a Cutoff wheel makes for easy work in seconds. I did several out of 10' stick. I use them for small switches as well. I am still looking for a good solution to the larger brick POE for ptp650 units. We usually just mount them on a board on the wall. On 03/01/2016 01:25 PM, George

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Gino Villarini
ctm2 come in DC version  Sent from Outlook Mobile On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:52 PM -0800, "Peter Kranz" wrote: You are right, the CTM2 _is_ pretty damn close but:   They are very pricey They only have 8 ports The AC power supplies are built into the

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck Hogg
+1. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 3:05 PM, John Woodfield wrote: > Buy a RF meter. > > > > > > > > John Woodfield, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -Original Message- > From: "Christopher Gray" >

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
This seems to be the curse of ubnt. Making changes to something like management IP or timezone, clock, whatever should not reboot a radio. It is somewhat forgiveable on a $499 radio buy not on a $6000 link. All proper part101 radios have the management interface separated from the traffic pipe.

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Peter Kranz
You are right, the CTM2 _is_ pretty damn close but: They are very pricey They only have 8 ports The AC power supplies are built into the unit and cannot be replaced without taking the device out of service... I guess DC power is a solution to this It has unwanted (by me) timing features

Re: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread John Woodfield
Buy a RF meter. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Christopher Gray" Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 3:02pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems I'm hoping

[AFMUG] Safe or Not - Working Near Mobile Phone Systems

2016-03-01 Thread Christopher Gray
I'm hoping to do some work in a steeple that has cell phone equipment. I understand there are currently 6 sectors, and will soon be 9 sectors for mobile phone service located behind the louvers. I would like to assess which work locations require disabling the mobile system (if any), and if there

Re: [AFMUG] Force180 Stock?

2016-03-01 Thread Mathew Howard
I was going to say, I thought I just bought a bunch from WAV not that long ago... On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Super WISP wrote: > Josh, > > > I have over 700 available. Hit me up off list or call me. > > > > *Mark Chamerlik* > > Strategic Account Manager-East Coast

Re: [AFMUG] racmount kit for Packetflux SyncInjector?

2016-03-01 Thread George Skorup
I was using a sawzall on the steel rail and cleaning up with a flat file. A hacksaw cuts like butter through the aluminum rail and a couple swipes with a file cleans them up pretty quick. Just gotta be a little careful with the aluminum rail since it'll obviously bend easier. On 3/1/2016 9:55

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage powerinjector withredundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Do you want surge suppressors on each circuit? Do you want individually replaceable circuits or all on one board? How many ports? From: Peter Kranz Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage powerinjector withredundant power.. Here is my

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Baird
Aren't the CTM2's like 2k/each? On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > You just described the last mile gear CTM2 > > -Sean > > > On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Peter Kranz wrote: > >> Here is my ideal solution: >> >> >> >> - Solid

Re: [AFMUG] Force180 Stock?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Baird
Thanks for the replies, all. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:06 PM, John Woodfield wrote: > Didn't Brett Glass used to call himself "Super WISP" > > > > I jumped for a second lol > > > > > > > > John Woodfield, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Force180 Stock?

2016-03-01 Thread John Woodfield
Didn't Brett Glass used to call himself "Super WISP"   I jumped for a second lol       John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message-From: "Super WISP" Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 2:00pmTo: "af@afmug.com" Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Sean Heskett
You just described the last mile gear CTM2 -Sean On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Peter Kranz wrote: > Here is my ideal solution: > > > > - Solid state fusing on each radio, so that I get cable or radio > damage it doesn’t take down my entire +24V power rail, it just

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector withredundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
+1 PacketFlux has the stuff right for sync, the CMM is a bad switch with sync. Let my Mikrotik do the Ethernet stuff. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Force180 Stock?

2016-03-01 Thread Super WISP
Josh, I have over 700 available. Hit me up off list or call me. Mark Chamerlik Strategic Account Manager-East Coast [cid:image001.jpg@01D14A33.56536AF0] 630-818-1004 OFFICE 815-822-4490 CELL ma...@wavonline.com www.wavonline.com For

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector withredundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Peter Kranz
Here is my ideal solution: - Solid state fusing on each radio, so that I get cable or radio damage it doesn’t take down my entire +24V power rail, it just shuts down that port - The ability to enable/disable the power rail remotely to each port for hard resets -

[AFMUG] Force180 Stock?

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Baird
What is the deal with Force 180? Is Cambium even making them? Nobody has had them in stock for months now.

Re: [AFMUG] Supercharged Raspberry Pi 3 adds Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and more speed, but still costs $35 | PCWorld

2016-03-01 Thread Bruce Robertson
I do exactly that too. Works like a champ. On 02/29/2016 08:36 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Raspberry pi is cool. Almost a year ago I set up an older model pi (model B I think) to run our weather station. It runs headless; no monitor, no keyboard, no mouse. It's only connection is a USB for power,

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Thanks! - Original Message - From: Joe Novak To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation Jay, 4.5 mile, AF5 23db dishes, -56, 30mhz, 8x, 50/50 split, 133mbit/133mbit. 6.5 miles, 30db ubnt dish with RF

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Joe Novak
Jay, 4.5 mile, AF5 23db dishes, -56, 30mhz, 8x, 50/50 split, 133mbit/133mbit. 6.5 miles, 30db ubnt dish with RF armor, -50, 20mhz, 8x, 75/25 split, 138mbit/35mbit. not fully aware of 'real world speeds' but mikrotik's btest does 130/130 udp / 100/100 tcp over the 4.5 mile link. If you have not

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread James Howard
There you go with those ad hominem attacks! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:05 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org yup..he claimed to be first and I told him about Rafael Chayres from Internet Online in

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
so i'm probably about to throw one of these bad boys up. what speeds do i get at 8x? since apparently i'd be dreaming at 10x... lol - Original Message - From: Joe Novak To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:16 AM Subject: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
ahh, the good ol days. - Original Message - From: Daniel White To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 7:05 AM Subject: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org I'm sure I'll get a cease and desist letter from Mike, but for those interested. The above e-mail was sent at

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Mathew Howard
Your best bet would probably be something like one of the Netonix switches. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I do have a POE switch but the docs list the UVC cameras as 24 volt and > not 802.3AF or AT compliant. I know the pro version is 48 volt AF

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
Sorry, 11.76 :) http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/AF5X-Early-Test-Track-Report-588-Mbps-with-1024QAM-afterburners/cns-p/1199057 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > 10 bits I believe. Not sure about 12.8... > > Josh Luthman > Office:

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Joe Novak
I was just interested in trying it out, it's in a fairly quite part of the network so nothing to lose really. I was able to force the link to operate at 10x at that distance at 42 EIRP in 20mhz. Capacity dropped 15mbit to 120mbit - instead of 135mbit. I'm sure the error rate was off the charts.

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
the 24volt syncinjectors will do that i believe, youll still have 4 power supplies but better than 13, or just do a bigger 24 volt On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > You can also use the last mile gear CTM2 > > -Sean > > > On Monday, February 29, 2016, Peter

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
10 bits I believe. Not sure about 12.8... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 1, 2016 11:27 AM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > 12.8+ bits/hz too! :) > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman >

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Well, it is small torrid transformers inside a chip case. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios I don’t think there is any chip. Unless you mean the transformers. From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, March 01,

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don’t think there is any chip. Unless you mean the transformers. From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios Ok, just wanted to make sure the chip that inserted the power didn't need to have a matching gigabit chip

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread John Woodfield
Good luck. I have a sub 1mile link I can't get it to work on. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Josh Reynolds" Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 11:27am To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x

[AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Sean Heskett
Yes you can use the GIGE-POE-APC with FSK. Only thing you can't use it with is the 320 and 430 because they use split pair power. -Sean On Tuesday, March 1, 2016, Nate Burke > wrote: > Oh, I realized the confusion.

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
12.8+ bits/hz too! :) On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > s/CPU/FPGA > > Some sort of FPGA thing > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 11:24 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
s/CPU/FPGA Some sort of FPGA thing Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > No CPU, it's an FPGA. > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Josh Luthman >

Re: [AFMUG] Mid-Span multi-voltage power injector with redundant power..

2016-03-01 Thread Sean Heskett
You can also use the last mile gear CTM2 -Sean On Monday, February 29, 2016, Peter Kranz wrote: > Curious if anyone has recommendations on a mid-span power injector that > supports multiple voltages and provides redundant power, ideally > hot-swappable. I don’t really

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Stefan Englhardt
There was a thread at UBNT Forum. There is a sweet spot regarding Signal/ Frequency and max TX-Power. So you might need a bigger antenna, go to lower frequencies and turn power down to reduce radio noise. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Joe Novak Gesendet: Dienstag,

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
ClaudeSS on the UBNT forum made a chart somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. It's a very narrow window, something between like -47 and -53 or -54, 25-30SNR. Shortish range, very picky. 1024QAM is hard in unlicensed space. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Jeremy wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
No CPU, it's an FPGA. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > It's only in 5.1 from what the notes said. I don't know why, maybe some > sort of CPU horse power thing. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St >

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Part-15.org

2016-03-01 Thread John Woodfield
He's probably a member of this group and we've talked him up. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Jaime Solorza" Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 11:05am To: "Animal Farm" Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman
It's only in 5.1 from what the notes said. I don't know why, maybe some sort of CPU horse power thing. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Jeremy wrote: > My 19 mile shot isn't

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Just make sure to leave the jumpers off the data pins. 1&2 3&6 Put the jumpers on 4&5 and 7&8 From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios Ok, just wanted to make sure the chip that inserted the power didn't need to

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy
I have powered non-gigabit UBNT with them. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > Ok, just wanted to make sure the chip that inserted the power didn't need > to have a matching gigabit chip on the other end. > > On 3/1/2016 10:17 AM, Jeremy wrote: > > It would

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Stefan Englhardt
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Re: [AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy
My 19 mile shot isn't hitting it either. Can you believe it?? Seriously though, I have no idea what SNR is required for 10x. All of my links are sitting at 8x. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > instead of derailing the af24 thread any further... > > what

[AFMUG] AF5X and 10x modulation

2016-03-01 Thread Joe Novak
instead of derailing the af24 thread any further... what conditions do I need to hit to make the af5x play at 10x? I'm playing with my 6.5 mile link just seeing what is possible.. it appears to be 'well hidden' on ubiquiti's website because I can't find it. I appear to have it bouncing in and

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Nate Burke
Oh, I realized the confusion. GIGE-POE-(APC) that's what I'm asking about. On 3/1/2016 10:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote: POE On 3/1/2016 10:08 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: You want the POE? Or the SS? http://www.mccowntech.com/rack-mount-gige-poe-apc-surge-suppressor-power-inserter-protector/ Josh

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Nate Burke
Ok, just wanted to make sure the chip that inserted the power didn't need to have a matching gigabit chip on the other end. On 3/1/2016 10:17 AM, Jeremy wrote: It would definitely power them, if you put the power on the correct pins. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Jeremy
It would definitely power them, if you put the power on the correct pins. On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > Oh, I realized the confusion. GIGE-POE-(APC) that's what I'm asking about. > > > On 3/1/2016 10:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > > POE > > On 3/1/2016

Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

2016-03-01 Thread Chris Wright
And sometime last month, and the month before that… Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe Novak Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 6:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

[AFMUG] GIGE-APC with FSK Radios

2016-03-01 Thread Nate Burke
I'm sure it works, but I thought I better ask, can you use the GIGE-APC to power a FSK AP (With a sync pipe parasitic inline)? I've used them with EPMP radios, but those are Gigabit Ethernet ports. Obviously set the jumpers so power is only on 45/78. But does the power injection chip mess

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